Is it possible that the world is approaching end times?

I frequently write that the world economy is, in physics terms, a dissipative structure that is powered by energy. It can grow for a time, but eventually it reaches limits of many kinds. Ultimately, it can be expected to stop growing and collapse.

It seems to me that the world economy is showing signs that it has reached a turning point. Economic growth stopped in 2020 and is having trouble restarting in 2021. Fossil fuel energy of all types (oil, coal and natural gas) is in short supply, relative to the world’s huge population. Ultimately, this inadequate energy supply can be expected to pull the world economy toward collapse.

The world economy doesn’t behave the way most people would expect. Standard modeling approaches miss the point that economies require adequate supplies of energy products of the right kinds, provided at the right times of day and year, if they are to keep from collapsing. Shortages are not necessarily marked by high prices; prices that are too low for producers will bring down the energy supply quickly. A collapse may occur due to inadequate demand; in fact, such a scenario is described in Revelation 18.

As strange as it may seem, we may be approaching what some of us would think of as end times, if our economy collapses for lack of cheap-to-produce energy supplies. In this post, I will try to explain what is happening.


[1] In some ways, the self-organizing economy is like a child’s building toy that, with the use of human energy, can be built up to higher and higher levels.

Figure 1. Thought map by Gail Tverberg.

The economy is gradually built up by the addition of new customers, new businesses and new products. Governments play a role as well, adding new infrastructure, laws and taxes. Adequate wages for employees are important because, to a significant extent, employees are also consumers of goods and services made by the economy.

Adequate energy supplies of the right types are terribly important because every process used by the economy requires energy, even if the only energy used is electricity to light a light bulb or operate a computer. Heating and cooling require energy, as does transportation.

Human energy is an important part of the economy, as well. Humans eat food to provide them with energy. An individual human’s own energy output is relatively tiny; it is about equal to the output of a 100-watt light bulb. With the use of supplemental energy of various kinds, humans can do many tasks that would not be possible otherwise, such as cooking food, creating metals from ores, heating homes, and building cars and trucks.

The economy cannot “go backwards” because, if a product is no longer needed, it will no longer be produced. The economy represented by Figure 1 is in some sense hollow inside. For example, once people started using automobiles, buggy whips were no longer made. If cities went back to using horses as their main means of transport, we would need manure removal services. These, too, would be missing.

[2] Another way of thinking about the world economy is that it is somewhat like a rocket that needs fuel. It also has waste outputs. Both of these limit the growth of the world economy.

Figure 2. Chart by Gail Tverberg.

The economy uses a wide array of inputs. At the same time, it produces a whole host of undesirable outputs. Inputs need to be inexpensive to produce, or citizens will not be able to afford the goods and services made by the system. The waste outputs cannot become too significant, or they can lead the economy to fail. In fact, with the world’s growing population, we seem to be reaching many limits with respect to both inputs and undesirable outputs, simultaneously.

[3] Strangely enough, the major energy limit that the world economy is hitting seems to be “energy prices that do not rise high enough for producers.”

This energy limit is exactly the opposite of what most people are looking for. They assume that “demand” will always rise. In fact, the cost of production of energy products keeps rising because the easy to produce energy products are produced first. It is the market prices that energy products can be sold for that do not rise adequately.

When we trace the problem back, we discover that the problem with prices arises from the equivalence between producers of goods and services and consumers of goods and services indicated on Figure 1. In order to have enough “demand” to keep energy prices high enough for providers, it turns out that even the very low wage people in the world economy need to be able to afford necessities such as food, water, clothing, basic housing and transportation. In fact, if the cost of extracting fossil fuels rises too quickly because of depletion, or if the cost of getting renewable electricity into a form in which it is useful for society rises too much, there may be a situation when even a price based on full demand from all consumers is too low for energy producers.

Let’s define “return on human labor” as what a person without advanced training can earn by selling his physical labor as unskilled labor. Rather than dollar or euro terms, wages need to be thought of in terms of the physical goods and services that these wages can purchase. If supplemental energy per capita is rising rapidly, the return on human labor tends to rise. This happens because with higher energy consumption, humans can have more tools and technology requiring energy at their command. For example, the period between 1950 and 1970 was a time when energy consumption was rising rapidly. It was also a time of rising standards of living, even for workers without advanced training.

Figure 3. World per capita energy consumption, with the 1950-1980 period of rapid growth highlighted. World Energy Consumption by Source, based on Vaclav Smil’s estimates from Energy Transitions: History, Requirements and Prospects (Appendix) together with BP Statistical Data for 1965 and subsequent years, divided by population estimates by Angus Maddison.

The world economy can be expected to run into a major problem once supplemental energy consumption per capita starts falling because then human labor is necessarily less leveraged by fewer machines, such as trucks and airplanes. In total, fewer goods and services can be produced.

If energy supply is inadequate, businesses often find it advantageous to substitute computers or other machines for some work previously done by low paid workers. While these machines use a little energy in their operation, they do not need food, housing or transportation the way human workers do. With fewer actual workers, demand for finished goods and services tends to fall, pushing commodity prices, including those for fossil fuels, down. This further adds to the low-price problem.

It is the lack of jobs that pay well that tends to hold down commodity prices below the prices producers require. Ultimately, it is the lack of sufficient jobs that pay well that tends to bring the whole economy down. Most researchers have missed this important point.

[4] In the period leading up to collapse, wages fail to rise with the cost of required services. This leads to increasingly unhappy workers. Healthcare costs and college costs are especially problematic, because their costs have been rising faster than costs in general.

Figure 4. Illustrates the issue that seems to be occurring:

Figure 4. Chart from Washington Post based on a Cost-of-Thriving analysis by Oren Cass.

When energy consumption per capita is growing rapidly, the economy adds items that were not previously considered necessary. Instead of a basic education for all being sufficient, advanced education (often paid for by the student) becomes necessary for many jobs. Healthcare costs keep rising rapidly, making it more difficult to make wages cover all necessary expenses (Figure 4).

We can see additional evidence that workers have been tending to get poorer in recent years by looking at the trend in the number of light vehicles purchased. With rising population, a person would expect the number of automobiles sold to increase, year after year, if citizens found their incomes as adequate as in the past. Instead, we see a pattern of falling automobile sales, practically everywhere, starting well before 2020. For example, peak light vehicle sales in China occurred in 2017.

Figure 5. Auto sales by country based on data of VDA.de.

[5] An increase in debt can temporarily be used to hide both inadequate inexpensive-to-produce energy supply and inadequate wages of workers, but we seem to be reaching limits using this approach to hide energy problems.

The last time the world had relatively stable low oil prices was in the years prior to 1973. As noted previously, low energy prices tend to make finished goods, such as homes and cars, inexpensive to buy and operate. Thus, they tend to be affordable.

Figure 6. Inflation-adjusted oil prices based on data of BP’s 2021 Statistical Review of World Energy.

The big issue if oil and other prices rise very high is that the selling prices of goods and services tend to rise too high to be affordable to consumers. The workaround that was developed to fix this unaffordability problem was to change the economy to use more debt. To be affordable, interest rates had to fall lower and lower. Peak interest rates occurred in 1981; they have been trending downward since then.

Figure 7. 10-Year US Treasury and 3-Month Treasury yields, through November 2021. Chart by St. Louis Federal Reserve (FRED).

If debt at ever-lower interest rates is available, assets such as homes, farmland, factories and shares of stock become more affordable, allowing prices of these assets to rise. Owners of these assets feel wealthier. In fact, they may borrow more money against the inflated price of these assets and use this money to buy more goods and services made with commodities, thus helping to raise commodity prices. The lower interest rates make the purchase of automobiles more affordable as well, helping to raise the price of commodities used to make and operate automobiles.

There is a limit on how low these interest rates can go, however, especially if inflation is a problem. Current interest rates seem to be down near where they were during the Great Depression of the 1930s. This suggests that the economy is truly doing very poorly.

Today, Brent oil prices are about $69 per barrel. This price is not high enough for producers to want to prepare more fields for drilling. As far as I can see, the price needs to be up in the range of $120 per barrel, and stay there for many years, for oil producers to consider putting major effort into developing more fields. Natural gas and coal have similar low-price problems.

While governments cannot seem to be able to fix the low-price problem for fossil fuels, they can find ways to pay their citizens money for doing nothing, or next to nothing. These payments will add to a government’s debt, but they don’t really produce more goods and services. What these payments tend to produce is inflation in the prices of goods and services that are available.

Over time, we can expect the lack of growth in energy supply to lead to an increasing number of broken supply lines. Without long-term high-price guarantees, producers will not be willing to increase production. Without adequate fuel supply, an increasing number of products will disappear from the shelves of stores. A smaller number of people will have jobs, especially jobs that pay well. The economy can be expected to head in the direction of collapse.

We can think of debt as a promise of future goods and services, made with future energy production. If energy supplies are rising rapidly and can be expected to continue to rise rapidly in the future, this promise can be expected to hold. Of course, if energy supplies start falling, all bets are off. Supply lines are likely to break. We consider money and other securities issued by governments to be a “store of value,” but, if there is little to buy (for example, all international flights are cancelled and automobiles of the desired type are permanently out of stock), its ability to act as a store of value will start to disappear. If the economy collapses completely, neither stocks nor bonds will have value.

[6] Nothing happens for a single reason in a self-organizing economy. Lack of energy affects every part of the economy, from jobs to finished output, almost simultaneously.

In a self-organizing economy, everything is interconnected. Inadequate energy per capita leads to low selling prices for commodities of all kinds. Inadequate energy per capita also leads to low wages for workers, low benefits provided by governments, and uprisings to protest these low wages and benefits. These uprisings began in 2019 or even earlier.

The unhappiness of workers leads to the election of increasingly radical politicians, in the hope that something can be done to fix the problems. There are basically not enough goods and services to go around, but no one wants to admit that this could be a problem.

[7] Citizens cannot imagine a declining and eventually collapsing economy. Businesses, governments and individual citizens all demand “happily ever after futures.”

Figure 8. Chart by Gail Tverberg. Amounts through 2020 based on an analysis of historical energy consumption using the same sources as those used in Figure 3.

If there is a history of growth, nearly everyone is happier if forecasts pretend that economic growth can continue forever. Newspapers want such stories, because this is what their advertisers, such as automakers, want. Automobiles need to be usable for a long period in the future. Universities want favorable forecasts because they want their students to believe that their degrees will have great future value. Politicians want a story of growth forever, because this is what voters want and expect. They have come to believe that governments can save them from all problems; there is no longer any need for religion.

As energy supplies get scarce, the rich tend to become richer and the poor tend to become poorer. François Roddier explains that this is because of the physics of the situation. Wealthy individuals and corporations discover that they have a rapidly growing ability to influence the narrative provided by Mainstream Media. If influential citizens and groups want citizens to hear a “happily ever after ending” to our current problems, they can make certain that this is the predominant narrative of Mainstream Media. It is only people who are willing to hear sources outside of the mainstream who can learn what is really happening.

The fact that the world economy would run into energy limits about now has been known for a very long time. For example, US Navy Rear Admiral Hyman Rickover talks about the close connection between energy and the economy in this 1957 speech. He points out that the world is likely to run short of fossil fuel by 2050. Later modeling documented in the 1972 book The Limits to Growth indicated that the world economy was likely to collapse in a similar timeframe. The modeling done in that analysis considered rising population relative to total resources, without looking at energy resources separately.

[8] It is easy to create models that predict growth will continue forever, even if the physics of the situation says this is not possible.

Economists provide their work to politicians. They certainly cannot provide forecasts of a coming calamity such as economic collapse. They also are unaware of the physics of the situation, even though many researchers have been writing about the issue from a physics point of view since at least the mid-1980s.

Economists have chosen instead to make models that assume no limits are ahead. They seem to assume that all problems will be fixed by innovation, substitution and the pricing mechanism. They produce forecasts suggesting that the economy can grow endlessly in the future. Based on these forecasts, they provide input to models that reach the conclusion that amazingly large amounts of fossil fuels will be extracted in the future. Based on these nonsensical models, our problem is not the near-term limits that we are reaching; instead, our chief problem is climate change. Its impacts occur mostly in the future.

A corollary to this belief system is that it is we humans who are in charge and not the laws of physics. We can expect governments to protect us. We don’t need any outside help from a literal Higher Power who created the laws of physics. We need to listen to what the authorities on earth tell us. In fact, in troubled times, governments need more authority over their citizens. The many concerns regarding COVID-19 make it easy for governments to increase their control over citizens. We are told that it is only by following the mandates of governments that we will get through this strange time.

With nearly everyone on board with the idea that somehow the story of near-term collapse must be avoided at all costs, every part of the economy bases its actions on the narrative that the world economy is voluntarily moving away from fossil fuels. In this narrative, renewables will save us; electric vehicles are the way of the future; the world economy can continue to grow, but in a new way.

In fact, we are colliding with resource limits, right now. This seems to be what produced the bizarre situation experienced in 2020.

[9] As 2020 began, many sectors of the world economy were squeezed simultaneously. With limited energy resources, large parts of the economy needed to be cut back. The self-organizing economy acted in a very strange way. Shutdowns supposedly aimed at stopping COVID-19 from spreading acted very much like energy rationing, without mentioning the world’s energy problem.

Figure 9. World per capita energy supply by type of fuel, based on BP 2021 Statistical Review of World Energy data.

Several years before 2020, it should have been clear that the world economy was doing very poorly based on the continued need for very low interest rates (Figure 7) and Quantitative Easing. China, in particular, was doing poorly, as indicated by its low sales of automobiles (Figure 5). Of course, China doesn’t broadcast its problems to the rest of the world, so few people were aware of this issue.

China had been able to boost the world’s per capita supply of inexpensive-to-produce energy by ramping up its coal production after it joined the World Trade Organization in 2001. (Note the world ramp-up in coal, starting after 2001, on Figure 9.) Unfortunately, because of depletion, China’s coal production since 2013 has been close to flat. Furthermore, China had had a big recycling business, but discontinued it effective January 1, 2018. Discontinuation of this program was necessary because oil prices had fallen in 2014 and had never recovered to their former level. With low oil prices, most recycling in China made no sense economically. The loss of jobs from recycling and cutbacks in coal operations no doubt contributed to the declining sale of vehicles in China.

In the years before 2020, another big issue was that the wages of many workers were not keeping up with the rising cost of living. Figure 4 illustrates this issue for the US. The problem was especially acute for lower wage workers. During this period, the prices of many commodities were too low for producers. This led to layoffs and low wages for workers.

In early 2020, the world became aware of a new coronavirus that had been identified in China. The response to this new illness was very strange, compared to how previous pandemics had been handled. The response looked a great deal like intentionally scaring people (especially older people) into staying at home. If this were done, much less oil could be used. Natural gas and coal consumption could be reduced, as well.

This story is perhaps not so strange if we look at it in context. On January 8, 2020, I wrote that we should be expecting recession and low oil prices in 2020. I included this oil price chart.

Figure 10. Inflation adjusted weekly average Brent oil price, based on EIA oil spot prices and US CPI-urban inflation.

On January 29, I wrote, It is easy to overreact to a coronavirus. In this article, I pointed out that the economy already seemed to be headed in the direction of recession. Shutdowns would only make the problem worse.

Politicians choosing to shut down their economies in early 2020 were likely not aware that the real underlying problem within their economy was inadequate availability of inexpensive-to-produce energy. They were aware that China had decided to shut down part of its economy, so perhaps there might be some usefulness to such an action. Local leaders outside of China knew that their own factories were underutilized. If their own factories could be shut down temporarily, perhaps they could operate at closer to capacity, once they reopened.

Furthermore, a shutdown would give an excuse to keep workers protesting low wages inside. After the shutdown, there would be an excuse to raise the debt level, perhaps keeping the financial part of the economy going for a while longer. So, a shutdown would have many benefits, apart from any potential benefit from (sort of) containing the virus.

It became apparent as time went on that the vaccine story for COVID-19 was playing multiple roles, as well. The healthcare industry was becoming very large in the US. In fact, the size of the healthcare industry was beginning to interfere with the economy as a whole (Figure 4). Furthermore, manufacturers of medicines and vaccines were having problems with diminishing returns because the big, important drug finds had been discovered years ago. It was becoming difficult to profitably fund all of the research needed for new drugs.

Behind the scenes, the vaccine industry had been working for years on creating new viruses and preparing vaccines for these same viruses. The theory was that the same approaches that delivered vaccines might be helpful in treating diseases of various kinds. Vaccines might also be helpful in responding to bioweapon attacks. If drug manufacturers could market a blockbuster vaccine, the manufacturers, as well as the individuals holding the vaccine patents, could become rich.

The US was not alone in the research with respect to viruses and vaccines for these viruses. Many major countries, including Canada, France, Italy, Australia and China had funded this research, partly through their budgets for health research and partly through military budgets. There was virtually no chance that anyone would figure out the source of any problematic virus because so many major countries had had a part in funding this research. If citizens could be convinced that the virus was extremely dangerous and mandate the use of vaccines, the vaccine industry could greatly profit from vaccine sales. The vaccine could be created and marketed quickly because all of the research (but not enough testing) had been performed earlier.

A great deal of planning had been done before the pandemic appeared, based to a significant extent upon what outcome vaccine makers would prefer. Johns Hopkins University completed a SPARS Pandemic Scenario in October 2017, rehearsing responses to a pandemic. A training exercise called Event 201 was held on October 18, 2019, for the purpose of training high level government officials and news writers what their responses should be.

The sponsors of Event 201 were “The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security in partnership with the World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.” The latter two organizations are representatives of the very wealthy individuals and very large corporations. The primary interest of these organizations is enriching those who are already wealthy. The World Economic Forum is known for proclaiming, “You’ll own nothing and you’ll be happy.”

As time went on, it became very clear that the true nature of the COVID-19 epidemic was being hidden from citizens. It was, and is, not a terribly dangerous illness if it is treated properly with any number of inexpensive medications including aspirin, ivermectin, antihistamine and steroids. In fact, the severity of the disease could also be lessened by taking vitamin D in advance. There really was not a great deal of point to the vaccines, except to enrich the vaccine manufacturers and those who would benefit from the sale of the vaccines, including Anthony Fauci and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.

It also became clear that the vaccines don’t really do what a person might expect a vaccine to do. They do tend to stop severe illness, but taking vitamin D in advance would provide pretty much the same benefit. They don’t stop COVID-19 from circulating because vaccinated people can still catch COVID-19. The vaccines seem to have any number of side effects, including raising the risk of heart attacks.

The historical period most similar to the current period, in terms of shortage of energy supply, is that between World War I and World War II. At that time, the Jews were persecuted. Now, there is an attempt to divide the world into Vaccinated and Unvaccinated, with the Unvaccinated persecuted. When the economy cannot produce enough goods and services for all members of the economy, the economy seems to divide into almost warring parts.

We are basically trying to deal with an energy scenario that looks a lot like Figure 8, and the self-organizing economy comes up with very strange solutions. If people can convince themselves that it is OK to ostracize the unvaccinated, then maybe the move down the collapse will go more smoothly. For example, the military can be cut back in size by dismissing the unvaccinated, without admitting that with current resources, there is a need to reduce the size of the military.

Europe is the part of the world where the push for vaccinations is now highest. It is also in terrible shape with respect to energy supply. By ostracizing the unvaccinated, European countries can attempt to cut back their economies to the size that their energy supply will support, without admitting the real problem.

[10] The world economy is increasingly acting like economies that have collapsed in the past. In fact, there seems to be a connection with some of the strange statements from the book of Revelation.

We are living in a world now in which even if there are temporary price spikes, there is little chance that fossil fuel providers will ramp up their production. In order to ramp up supplies, they would need to start several years in advance, preparing new fields. Oil, coal and gas prices have stayed so low, for so long, that there is no belief that prices can rise to a high enough level and stay there, as the fuels are extracted. Thus, the fossil fuel will stay in the ground.

At the same time, it is becoming increasingly clear that renewables cannot be depended upon. In fact, low generation of electricity by wind turbines is part of the reason Europe is having to import the large quantity of natural gas and coal supplies it now requires. There is concern that rolling blackouts may be necessary during the winter in Europe, if not this year, sometime in the next few years.

It is becoming increasingly clear that the future energy scenario will look something like Figure 8, causing world population to fall dramatically within the next thirty years. This is the kind of situation most of us would associate with collapse. I think of it as being equivalent to end times, since our modern civilization will be disappearing. It is possible that there will be a remnant of people left, but they will be living a much simpler life, without fossil fuels or modern renewables.

There are several parts to what is happening that remind me of Old Testament writings in general, and of the book of Revelation (from the New Testament), in particular.

First, the willingness of the ultra-rich to look out for themselves and keep what look like perfectly good, cheap cures for COVID-19 from the world population seems to be precisely the kind of despicable behavior that Old Testament prophets despised. For example, in Amos 5:21-24, Amos tells the Jews that God despises their prior behavior. In verse 24 (NIV), he says, “But let justice roll on like a river, righteousness like a never-failing stream!”

As I noted in the introduction, Revelation 18 talks about lack of demand being an issue in the collapse of Babylon, and presumably in any future collapse that occurs. Revelation 18:11-13 reads:

11 The merchants of the earth will weep and mourn over her because no one buys their cargoes anymore— 12 cargoes of gold, silver, precious stones and pearls; fine linen, purple, silk and scarlet cloth; every sort of citron wood, and articles of every kind made of ivory, costly wood, bronze, iron and marble;13 cargoes of cinnamon and spice, of incense, myrrh and frankincense, of wine and olive oil, of fine flour and wheat; cattle and sheep; horses and carriages; and human beings sold as slaves.

The need for vaccine passports in some countries reminds a person of Revelation 13:17, “they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name.” In fact, people in Sweden are getting microchip implants after its latest COVID passport mandate.

Some people believe that Revelation 12 describes the Antichrist; that is, the polar opposite of Christ. Before the world comes to an end, Revelation 12 seems to predict a great fight against this Antichrist, which Christ wins. I could imagine Anthony Fauci being the Antichrist.

We are not used to living in a world where very little that is published by the Mainstream Media makes sense. But when we live in a time where no one wants to hear what is true, the system changes in a bizarre way, so that a great deal that is published is false.

It is disturbing to think that we may be living near the end of the world economy, but there is an upside to this situation. We have had the opportunity to live at a time with more conveniences than any other civilization. We can appreciate the many conveniences we have.

We also have the opportunity to decide how we want to live the rest of our lives. We have been led for many years down the path of believing that economic growth will last forever; all we need to do is have faith in the government and our educational institutions. If we figure out that this really isn’t the path to follow, we can change course now. If we want to choose a more spiritual approach, this is a choice we can still make.

About Gail Tverberg

My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
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6,123 Responses to Is it possible that the world is approaching end times?

  1. FREEDOM OF INFORMATION – FDA released documents on Pfizer – COVID-19 mRNA vaccines update 23

    This video looks over the first set of data released by the FDA due to the freedom of information act request on what type of information was submitted by Pfizer to obtain approval for vaccine use.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EDpUcRKqCRE

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    One viewer comment

    Kerrie Redgate
    18 hours ago (edited)
    With all due respect, a big problem with these statistics is that an unknown number (though the evidence of this behaviour is clear) of medical doctors are not reporting the significant side-effects their patients are experiencing after especially the first shot. I know people personally who are suffering and have been told by their doctors, “I see this a lot. It’s just normal, yes you should have the second shot”. So I think we have to look at these stats as the bare minimum of experiences, not as any type of conclusion

  2. Harry says:

    Dear OFWers,
    I wish you all (who celebrate it) Merry Christmas!

    • Thank you, Harry!
      Yes. For most here it is still possible to have a Merry Xmas and A Happy New Year celebration…
      We can only hope BAU still has a little life left and we here can hang on it’s tail!
      KEY POINTS
      President Joe Biden said although many fully vaccinated people will get breakthrough Covid infections in the coming weeks, they are protected against severe illness and death.
      Biden said people who are fully vaccinated should feel safe celebrating the holidays with their families.
      But the president warned the unvaccinated face a much higher risk of severe illness and death.

      The show goes on!

      • Gail Tverberg – My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
        Gail Tverberg says:

        Except with Omicron, the situation may be the opposite. The unvaccinated (like 75% of those in South Africa) may fare better than the vaccinated. The COVID vaccine used there seems to be mostly Johnsonn & Johnson. Its “protection” seems to decline relatively quickly, so that may be a benefit as well.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Merry Christmas to all the CovIDIOTS… hopefully you get a real big fat injury from your boosters in the New Year!!! hahahahahahaha… that’s the spirit FE!!

    • Student says:

      Merry Christmas and happy holidays to this essential and unmissable blog and to All of You who enrich it with your important contributes and to those who have the patience to read them.
      Special wishes and thanks to our Host Gail.
      All the best!

  3. Fast Eddy says:

    I agree with WHO: Don’t use the vaccines to kill children

    I never thought I’d see the day when the WHO and I agree on something. I was wrong. That day arrived today. We both think countries shouldn’t use the vaccines to kill kids.

    https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/i-agree-with-who-dont-use-the-vaccines

  4. Erdles says:

    And according to the UK Guardian

    “Those hospitalised with Omicron had on average shorter stays – 0.22 days compared with 0.32 days for Delta – but more data is needed, particularly in older age groups among whom Omicron is currently less prevalent. It is too early to assess the risk of admission to intensive care and death, but the researchers say greater reductions in risk are possible”.

    0.22 days being hospitalised is hardly a visit to the Accident and Emergency department

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/22/risk-of-hospital-stay-40-lower-with-omicron-than-delta-uk-data-suggests

  5. Fast Eddy says:

    Concerned about the spread of the Omicron variant and a lack of understanding surrounding how dangerous the new strain is, Gillian Keegan, the Care Minister (the Minister of State responsible for mental health), has declared that New Year’s Eve festivities might have to be cancelled. In addition, Keegan mentioned that the Government was being lenient with the public in allowing Christmas to go ahead with the current restrictions in place, but that this leniency may end following Christmas Day.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/dec/22/new-years-eve-plans-in-england-may-have-to-be-cancelled-says-minister

  6. Fast Eddy says:

    The Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, has said that those who refuse to take the Covid vaccine are opposing the Christian principle of ‘love thy neighbour’. Welby cited the alleged benefits of immunisation, such as reducing “my chances of infecting others”, and declared that “now obviously there are some people who, for health reasons, can’t be vaccinated – different question – but it’s not about me and my rights to choose”.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10334569/Archbishop-Canterbury-says-unvaccinated-immoral-love-neighbour.html

    hahaha… do these guys also love young boys? Or is that just priests?

    • Tim Groves says:

      Well, well, well, well, well, well, well, Mr Welby.

      The archbishop has waded into a number of political controversies in recent years.

      Last month, he was forced to apologise after saying that failure to strike a climate change deal at the Cop26 summit in Glasgow would lead to a ‘genocide’ worse than that committed by the N*zis. Welby had given a series of interviews to broadcasters, and in one he told the BBC leaders will be ‘cursed’ if they don’t reach agreement on climate change in the next fortnight.

      He said failure to act would allow ‘a genocide on an infinitely greater scale’ than was committed by Hitler’s regime.

      But before the footage was even aired he tweeted in a desperate bid to defuse the backlash.

      ‘I unequivocally apologise for the words I used when trying to emphasise the gravity of the situation facing us at Cop26,’ he wrote.

      And in April, the archbishop was accused of ‘jumping on a woke bandwagon’ after claiming that being a royal is like serving ‘life without parole’ – in words that appeared to signal his support for Harry and Meghan over Buckingham Palace.

    • 1. there has never been a successful coronavirus vaccine.

      2. there never ever will be.

    • geno mir
      geno mir says:

      OAS is a nasty bitch. I love when bitches crash the party. It is always worth watching.

    • Gail Tverberg – My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
      Gail Tverberg says:

      The data is through December 12. It seems like more recent data should be available.

  7. 6,000 wooooooo!!!!!!!

    everybody, over 6,000, are you excited yet?

    see? onward we go, 2022.

    all hail the might IC.

    bAU tonight, baby!

    • Rodster says:

      I read that Tony “Angel of Death” Fauci had something to do with the Aids virus back in the 80’s and not in a good way.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Word on the street was Tony was a regular in the NYC bath houses in the 80’s… he even hooked up with Freddie Mercury … and being a prolific actor in that space… he sprinkled a Lot of Aids around the town….

    • Fast Eddy says:

      is this what magic johnson takes…

    • Gail Tverberg – My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
      Gail Tverberg says:

      So, this new pill includes an AIDS drug. It also seems to include something else.

  8. Rodster says:

    “Omicron is the Beginning of the End!” The Data is Clear; It’s Very Mild! by Chris Martenson

    https://www.peakprosperity.com/omicron-is-the-beginning-of-the-end/

    “Various world leaders, mainstream press outlets, and pharma companies are working hard to whip up fear and anxiety about omicron. Are those negative emotions deserved? No, not in the slightest.

    Omicron spells the end of the Covid misadventure. At least that’s what the data suggests at this time. That’s great news. For you and me. Not so much for power and money-conflicted corporations and politicians who are rather attached to Covid being an endless and mind-numbingly expensive affair.”

    • Mike Roberts
      Mike Roberts says:

      Yes, that’s hopeful but it appears to be far more transmissible. A much lower average severity can still lead to problems with health care if the number of cases is high. Yesterday’s case number was near the all time peak, with the US having over 230,000 new cases. We’ll see where that leads, in terms of hospitalisations and deaths in two to three weeks time.

      • Rodster says:

        “far more transmissible”

        So WHAT? The data shows pretty much it’s mild. Let’s keep the fear and booster shots coming.

        • Mike Roberts
          Mike Roberts says:

          “So what?” Really? Let’s say new cases were at 50,000 per day and 10 percent were hospitalised at some stage. Suppose Omicron is half as severe, so the hospitalisation rate is 5%. Then you would see hospital cases double if there were 200,000 cases per day. We don’t yet know the actual rates but the “so what” depends on the case rate and hospitalisation rate. Hopefully, the hospitalisation rate is down to 1% as that would allow for a ten-fold increase in cases to have the same impact on hospitals. However, there would then be the impact on the economy if those cases, and their close contacts, had to isolate for some period. Also, more cases means more replication of the virus and more likelihood of variants that may not be so benign. And remember that governments aren’t going to be listening to the people commenting here about what they should do about the pandemic.

      • Xabier says:

        No problem at all for healthcare, Getaround Mike, if the small % of serious cases had access to prompt primary care and treatment packs.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Funny how so many believe this … the nightmare is over… of course these are people who believe the general covid narrative… and will not accept that the intent has always been to commit mass murder…

      Once again – where is the site that allows me to place a massive wager on this… it does not exist

      • Rodster says:

        The people that believe this crap are the ones who rely on CNN, Fox News, MSNBC and others like Jim Cramer who propagate this nonsense.

        • almost no one will be talking about the “next” dominant variant after omicron.

          yet.

          it could be more severe, or less, we’ll see.

          and/or if omicron was another lab released variant, then perhaps it will be seen as a failure, and the next intentionally released variant may be far more severe, if that’s what is happening.

          it’s almost guaranteed that by later 2022, omicron will fade like delta has, and a newer variant will be spreading the most throughout the world.

          it’s a coronavirus.

          its variants will never ever be stopped.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            So far it seems omiC is just another tool to frighten people to inject more garbage

            • halfvard
              Halfvard says:

              I think ADE is starting to hit with it but it won’t ramp up till they get that double cleavage omicron jab into all the NPCs.

            • Xabier says:

              Yes, to stampede them into boosters, and eager to get the Omicron Vaxx early next year.

              And to justify further repression.

              It’s working: compliance in shops is 100%, and masks have suddenly appeared on many people in the streets here, although not compulsory.

              That 5% of the population can clearly be identified as lost souls.

  9. Fast Eddy says:

    Canada sets new single-day record for COVID-19 infections

    Canada reported 14,988 new COVID-19 infections Wednesday, setting a new record for daily cases since the start of the pandemic. According to data collected by CTVNews.ca, the country’s seven-day average is also the highest it has ever been during the course of the pandemic.

    https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/canada-sets-new-single-day-record-for-covid-19-infections-1.5717161

    I think they need to lock the country down and give out more boosters hahahahahahahahahaahaha

  10. Fast Eddy says:

    How about this for an end of days refuge… we visited a few years ago … absolute middle of … nowhere:

    https://estanciacristina.com/en/home-3/

    • Gail Tverberg – My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
      Gail Tverberg says:

      It looks cold. I think a person would want to be where the temperature is more hospitable.

      • nostraightpath60
        nostraightpath60 says:

        Eddy is thinking maximum removal from the face ripping hoards

        No Pain no gain – but then that is how we evolved greater tool making capabilities by facing adversity in colder climes (supposedly) – willing to battle the known known (tough to survive the cold) rather than deal with the uncertainty of the raging masses.

        Western coast of South America also likely to have longer period without fallout from failed spent fuel ponds in Northern Hemisphere as only a couple of reactors in Southern Hemisphere (although since I think predominant winds from East to West might be better to be on eastern coast of SA – Southern Argentina perhaps – still an area of traditional pasture based dairy production – Cows used to be measure of wealth in primitive agricultural societies – IDK w/ inflation in Argentina might be able to arbitrage NZ or US currency into a good chunk of land. (Still cold but not as – little higher population density so might have to make nice with some neighbors)

  11. Fast Eddy says:

    When I say MOREON …

    Everyone thinks ___________.

  12. Fast Eddy says:

    London: The UK government on Wednesday reported 106,122 new virus cases in the last 24 hours, the first time the daily figure has topped 100,000, as the Omicron variant spreads rapidly.

    ooooohhhhhh ya….

  13. Ed – I am interested in energy issues.
    Ed says:

    On where do chips get made let me add: Samsung has a fab in the US southwest and TSMC is building a fab in the US southwest. The whole core periphery seems to be driving the US to circle the wagons IN THE US. Worst comes worst Taiwan and South Korea can glow.

    • Ed – I am interested in energy issues.
      Ed says:

      On the south west having little water modern semiconductor processing uses plasma etching over wet etching and wet cleaning so maybe water is less used.

    • Gail Tverberg – My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
      Gail Tverberg says:

      It will be a while (2024) before the new plants are expected to be operational.

      https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Tech/Semiconductors/Intel-breaks-ground-on-20bn-Arizona-chip-plants-in-battle-with-TSMC

      Even at that, the rare earth metals and their initial refinement will need to come from China, I expect. So, even without Taiwan and So. Korea, we still need China.

  14. Cole Beasley, NFL’s loudest COVID vaccine critic, roasted after testing positive
    Stefan Stevenson
    Tue, December 21, 2021, 5:35 PM·2 min read

    Cole Beasley will miss Sunday’s Buffalo Bills game against the New England Patriots after testing positive for COVID-19.

    Beasley, who has been one of the most outspoken players opposing the NFL’s vaccination rules and protocols, publicly resisted getting vaccinated.

    He’ll be out at least 10 days. He could be available Jan. 2 when the Bills (8-6) host the Atlanta Falcons.

    Beasley famously protested against the vaccine in a Twitter post in June.

    “I will be outside doing what I do,” Beasley said. “I’ll be out in public. If your (sic) scared of me then steer clear, or get vaccinated … I may die of covid, but I’d rather die actually living.”

    If Beasley was vaccinated, he’d be available to potentially return for Sunday’s game per the NFL’s updated COVID protocols, if he was asymptomatic. Unvaccinated players, however, must wait at least 10 days before they’re allowed to return to the field.

    Beasley deactivated his Twitter account in October.

    Nothing but harsh words for the unvaccinated…
    Nothing about the failure of the Serum

    • Rodster says:

      And did he just test positive or is he sick? Because the NFL had to change their stance on players who test positive for Covid and have no symptoms. If he is actually sick, he’s healthy and will probably get over it and develop natural immunity.

      • I think he said “feel fine just mild symptoms”.

        the NFL (and other pro leagues) have proven that this is now a pandemic of the VACCINATED.

        100% of coaches and other team personnel are jabbed, and over 90% of players.

        it’s being spread by the double and triple jabbed.

        thanks NFL for verifying it is mostly spread by the jabbed.

        1. there has never been a successful coronavirus vaccine.

        2. there never ever will be.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      I suspect he’d rather miss the game … than have that toxic potion surging through his body … hahaha…

      He can afford to miss a game or two …

      Cole Beasley signed a four year $29 million contract with the Bills on March 14, 2019. Beasley received $14.4 million in injury guarantees with $10.7 million of that being fully guaranteed. Beasley received a $6 million signing bonus and has a guaranteed roster bonus and base salary in 2019.

  15. judge for yourself, this reports a TB outbreak in New York City:

    https://www.independentsentinel.com/tb-outbreak-at-goldman-sachs/

    could it be that the jabbed are almost defenseless against other types of infections?

    I would expect that the MSM will suppress this story.

    Happy New Year to all the jabbed!

    • Fast Eddy says:

      hahahahaha… this is GREAT!!!!!!

      It must suck to have a ruined immune system … an immune system that is primed to fight the original covid strain and only that…. and that strain no longer exists!!!

      hahahahahaha

      To the vaxxed — you do know that you cannot Un-F789 yourself.. what you have done to your body … is .. permanent

  16. Fast Eddy says:

    Today’s Fun Exercise:

    Read https://www.doctors-stand-up-for-vaccination.com/

    The click here

    https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/DRSUV-2

    I used Josef Mengele — I found a ID number on another site – you can use it MD 2012 UCSI

    qualification – MD

    speciality – Exterminating Humans

    Enjoy your day!

  17. Michael Le Merchant
    Michael Le Merchant says:

    The Totalitarians’ Vaccine Miscalculation

    Totalitarians believe in their own omnipotence and that the ends always justify the means. They are self-deluded to the point that they will do just about anything to gain power, even if it is insane. From their point of view creating a vaccine that appears to kill some of its recipients is just the price that needs to be paid to help the masses pull themselves out of the antiquated global morass caused by individuality and freedom. So if a certain number of plebes die from a hastily formulated experimental vaccine, then so be it. We will thank them later for saving us from ourselves.

    Unfortunately, insane plans also have insane consequences. Their mass psychosis has worked on nearly 4.5 billion people. Their submission to the vaccine, masks, lockdowns, and mandates means they are now almost completely controllable and ready to accept totalitarian rule over every aspect of their lives.

    But the totalitarians have made a grievous error. Their miscalculation will end their rise to power. They have convinced or coerced 4.5 billion souls (57% of the global population) into being injected with something that will most certainly lead to their early deaths. Once the mass deaths of the vaccinated begin and the world realizes its cause, the totalitarians’ rise to power will be over. The hunters will become the hunted.
    https://lawrencebutts.substack.com/p/the-totalitarians-vaccine-miscalculation

    • Michael Le Merchant
      Michael Le Merchant says:

      He is observing the chaos, taking in the lack of raw humanity
      It’s as if the entire world’s fallen in love with their insanity
      Hear the innocent voices scream
      As their tormentors laugh through all of it
      No forgiveness from all I’ve seen
      The degradation, I cannot forget

      So sleep soundly in your beds tonight
      For judgement falls upon you at first light

      I’m the hand of God, I’m the dark messiah
      I’m the vengeful one
      (Look inside and see what you’re becoming)
      In the blackest moment of a dying world
      What have you become?
      (Look inside and see what you’re becoming)

      As the violence surges
      And the teeming masses have been terrorized
      The human predators all gone mad
      Are reaping profits born from their demise
      The rabid media plays their roles
      Stoking the flames of war to no surprise
      Only too eager to sell their souls
      For the apocalypse must be televised

    • drb753
      drb says:

      I don’t know about that. At the end of the Roman empire they won.

    • Gail Tverberg – My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
      Gail Tverberg says:

      Leaving vaccine makers without liability for bad results invites catastrophe, I am afraid.

      Furthermore, putting people who make money from the sale of vaccines (such as Fauci and Gates in charge of deciding the extent to which vaccines should be used invites disaster.

      Of course, we are now living in a world with lots of other limits. We are hitting many limits at once. For example, if we can’t grow enough food because of limits indirectly leading to less fertilizer, the lack of adequate food supply is going to make many poor people (who cannot afford high-priced food) susceptible to many kinds of illnesses, with or without a vaccine.

      • Rodster says:

        “Leaving vaccine makers without liability for bad results invites catastrophe, I am afraid.”

        How about those who have been injured not only are they unable to sue the drug companies but they have to foot the hospital bills from their own pockets which could ruin most families especially if they don’t have good medical insurance.

  18. skin could be your COVID vaccine passport

    Tiffiini Theisen, Orlando Sentinel
    Wed, December 22, 2021, 11:42 AM
    ORLANDO, Fla. — A rice-sized microchip implanted under your skin could become your vaccine passport.

    A Swedish tech startup says its device could be customized to display people’s COVID-19 vaccination records, according to a video the South China Post posted Friday on Twitter.

    Epicenter, based in Stockholm, says anyone who opts for microchip implantation can later change their minds and have the device removed.

    “Right now it’s very convenient to have a COVID passport always accessible on your implant,” Hannes Sjöblad, Epicenter’s chief disruption officer, says in the video.

    The chip uses near-field communication (NFC) to send the data to devices, including smartphones, that can read them.

    It’s the same type of technology used in most contactless credit cards and mobile payments, according to Fox Business.

    Such devices have a range of practical applications.

    “They can act as a key fob or a form of payment, or they can be programmed to store data, like, for instance, your resume. (All you have to do is hold a smartphone over the chip to program it.) ,” according to Hour Detroit Magazine. “They’re not dissimilar from the identification chips you’d install in your cat or dog.”

    The novelty of the technology makes some people uncomfortable enough to label it creepy, dystopian or even apocalyptic.

    Many responses to Friday’s video were negative and angry.

    Some noted that involuntary microchipping via vaccination was a prominent conspiracy theory last year.

    A poll taken in May 2020 found “44% of Republicans think Bill Gates is working on a coronavirus vaccine because he wants to plant a microchip in them and monitor their movements,” the New York Daily News reported.

    ———

    See everything going according to plan

    • Gail Tverberg – My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
      Gail Tverberg says:

      Sounds like this is not something people would like: “Many responses to Friday’s video were negative and angry.”

  19. Mike Roberts
    Mike Roberts says:

    Can you expand on that, Gail? I didn’t see anything in the linked article that referred to mRNA vaccines, or even just mRNA. This article in New Scientist gives a run-down on the history of mRNA and doesn’t mention the mRNA theory breaking down, just that the body’s defences against introduced mRNA made it a difficult technology to use in the early days (the technology has been around since the early 90s).

    • Fast Eddy says:

      You really expect someone to respond to you with anything but mockery and derision????

      Pie.

    • this has very little to do with the mRNA tech delivery system.

      1. there has never been a successful coronavirus vaccine.

      2. there never ever will be.

      except that any new omicron based mRNA “vaccine” should be quite harmful to anyone who has been dosed with the original Alpha variant vaccines.

      those immune systems will have been damaged to where they produce antibodies to the original variant but leaves them with lower defense against any other infections.

      OAS will be widespread, or is it ADE?

      should be very interesting as this proceeds, as people are jabbed with omicron mRNA and are producing omicron toxic spike proteins throughout their bodies.

      let’s watch for a new omicron “vaccine” and see the results.

      you might want to wait for a “robust” study on any omicron booster before you get one yourself.

      me, I’m still waiting for the Alpha vaccine 5 year “robust” studies and results.

      my o my, only about 4 years to go!

      • nikoB says:

        That is what I am wondering too David. Will the immune system being unable to deal with the new spike in the vaccine due to OAS. It would mean that it wouldn’t clear and could go on to cause massive damage and death.

        • and there are already signs in UK and Denmark that the omicron variant is spreading in higher proportions in the jabbed.

          perhaps the results will be that omicron infections will not be severe.

          but the health damages from any omicron based “vaccine” might be a very different story.

          2022 will be very interesting.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          The Elders are playing a chess game … and we are thinking it’s checkers…

      • Mike Roberts
        Mike Roberts says:

        The spike protein produced by some cells in response to the mRNA recipe don’t replicate. They few that are produced are intended to induce an immune response similar to the spike protein from the virus. How can they be “throughout their bodies”?

        • Gail Tverberg – My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
          Gail Tverberg says:

          There are lots of them. They go through the blood brain barrier, too.

        • halfvard
          Halfvard says:

          Because the mRNA enters endothelial cells in the blood vessels which then produce the spike protein for X amount of time (I don’t think we have solid data with a CI on what X actually is numerically), which leads to distribution throughout the body of said spike protein. Pathologists have shown that these spike proteins show up many organs and tissues all throughout the body, including as Gail said in her reply to you across the BBB into the CNS. The proliferation of spike proteins into various organs has also been show to cause leukocyte infiltration.

        • since you are Alpha jabbed and have no worries about mRNA produced Omicron toxic spike proteins, could you please arrange for yourself to be near the front of the line when the Omicron boosters come out in a few months?

          you could be a proud participant in the ongoing science experiment.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        mike PIE mike PIE mike PIE

    • Gail Tverberg – My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
      Gail Tverberg says:

      The New Scientist is written to make science look like a good career choice for people in college or not too far out of college. It is not designed to give a “fair and balanced” assessment of anything. It is designed to tell the successes and leave out the failures, to give young people that this is a field with great promise.

      I talk a little about some of the issues with the mRNA vaccines in my post, COVID-19 Vaccines Don’t Really Work as Hoped

      For example, I say,

      “The article, Vaccines are Pushing Pathogens to Evolve, gives the example of how the vaccines for Marek’s disease in chickens have been failing, as the disease gradually evolves to become more virulent under pressure from the vaccines being used to keep this illness away. The first vaccine was introduced in 1970. A decade later, outbreaks of Marek’s disease began to be found in vaccinated flocks. A second vaccine was licensed in 1983, but it too began to fail. When the article was written in 2018 the industry was on its third vaccine, but it too was beginning to fail, as the disease became more deadly. But there was no new vaccine yet available.”

      There are also academic articles related to viruses very close to the virus that causes COVID. For example, Immunization with SARS coronavirus vaccines leads to pulmonary immunopathology on challenge with the SARS virus.

      • Mike Roberts
        Mike Roberts says:

        I agree, to a certain extent, that magazines such as New Scientist do usually try to promote a rosy picture of scientific achievement but that is not always the case. A special edition in 2008, showed the folly of an economic growth paradigm and a recent issue highlighted the dirty side of so-called clean energy (though it did try to put a positive spin on it). If you think there was something incorrect about the article on mRNA vaccines, please comment.

        That article you linked to is interesting but doesn’t talk about mRNA vaccines (unless it failed to mention that some of the vaccines it referenced were mRNA vaccines). It also includes a note at the top:

        This article from 2018 discusses how leaky vaccines — vaccines that do not reduce viral replication or transmission to others — can drive the pathogens they target to evolve and become more virulent. These concerns do not apply to COVID-19 vaccines, because COVID-19 vaccines significantly reduce coronavirus replication and transmission, reducing the chance that mutations occur and variants arise. The more people who are vaccinated against COVID-19, the less likely it is that dangerous variants will evolve.

        You may disagree with that note, though studies do suggest that, prior to Omicron, at least, the vaccines do reduce instances of infection and reduce the period of infectiousness.

        • and yet as predicted by some of the world’s top virologists, the vaccination program during a pandemic has led to millions of people becoming variant factories, and the predictable result is a variant which the original vaccines are very ineffective against.

          1. there has never been a successful coronavirus vaccine.

          2. there never ever will be.

  20. Fast Eddy says:

    But pharmacists in Wellington are being pressured by customers who want to know why they can’t have the booster now.

    Ben Latty from Wellworks Pharmacy in Wellington told Morning Report it’s great people want the booster sooner, but he’s not able to provide it.

    He said he’s had people become angry and frustrated when they’ve realised they would be out of luck.

    “Wanting the booster now but unfortunately … we’re not physically able to do it – at least here in Wellington.”

    Latty said they are fielding dozens of phone calls from people wanting to get their booster shot now.

    “There’s one particular example where I was verbally abused, just being told where to go when I was unable to facilitate or administer their vaccine.

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/458495/timeline-for-covid-19-vaccine-booster-shot-causing-confusion-i-was-verbally-abused

    hahahahahahaha….

    mike: I demand my poison! You can’t have it – yet. But I want it!!! not yet… you give me that f789ing poison or I’ll smash your face! — not allowed to give it to you…. please I am begging you to poison me more… I’m so afraid of the omicron… and I want Pie — sorry sir but you have to wait till next week… come back next week and we’ll give you more poison…

    Fast Eddy comes up to mike as he walks out feeling blue… hey bud — I can help … you can? … yes ..I can.. and I will!….. oh what can you do? … I can give you my shots… cuz I am a Pure Blood.. I have shots in The Bank waiting to be spent… oh? that sounds … exciting…

    Yes it is … very exciting … it’s your Lucky Day … so here’s what you do … you take my health ID number and we walk around the block to this other injection centre… and you say you forgot your photo ID but that you need to get this shot urgently because you want More PIE…. because the chemist gets paid to inject odds are they won’t give a f789 about photo ID….

    You get the first shot…then you try your luck and see if they will give you shot 2… remember it’s Money in the Bank for the chemist… and everyone likes money right? … of course they do says mike… of course they Do…

    Ok let’s Do It… are you ready … yes I am ready… btw what did you say your name was… my name? I go by a few names but you can call me ricardo montalbon… my mates call me ricky… oh ok .. now let’s go find a Friendly Pharmacy to inject on you mike…. thank you mr ricky .. you are a good samaratin … maybe afterwards I can shout you a PIE?…. why not mike… why … Not.

  21. JonF says:

    Again, in keeping with the “end times” theme….

    “This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

    For men shall be….ever learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth”

    2 Timothy 3:7 (KJV)

    • Ed – I am interested in energy issues.
      Ed says:

      An apt quote.

    • Gail Tverberg – My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
      Gail Tverberg says:

      Perhaps scientists are busy making models of how they would like economies to work, and how they would like vaccines to work. Figuring out how they actually work is harder.

  22. JonF says:

    Given the “end times” theme of the article…and the quote from the Book of Revelation….shouldn’t we be aiming for 666_ comments?

    Approx 2 days left?

    C’mon you lot!

  23. Fast Eddy says:

    Boris Johnson will not announce a New Year lockdown before Christmas, according to fresh reports tonight.

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/newsbirmingham/boris-johnson-will-not-announce-new-year-lockdown-before-christmas/ar-AAS4ddr

    Oh … so he’ll announce a lockdown on the 26th?

  24. leaving aside the current conspirathon for a minute or two——

    for years I’ve banged on about wars being fought over energy resources

    arrows, cannonballs, ships planes or petrol, usually fired off by the nations of Europe intent on slaughtering each other, to grab what some other (lesser nation) has.

    the side that has the most, wins the war.

    suddenly we have an entirely new scenario—-Russia doesn’t need to risk running out of wartoys, all Putin has to do is threaten to turn off the gas to Europe, and the next European war is over before a shot is fired.

    • Sam says:

      Isn’t that what the us. Did to Japanese??

      • er——-

        as i recall, the Japanese were given an ultimatum–stop using US resources to slaughter the Chinese, or the United states will cut off your supplies of oil and steel.

        But don’t take my word for it–the history of it is easily checked.

        post 1945 the world economic system was to be oil-fueled (forever) Peace toys replaced wartoys.

        now the oil is running out, and we are staring at energy wars again.

        • Tim Groves says:

          No, Norman, you’ve got things totally upside down, inside out and back to front.

          The Japanese had a noble goal. They wanted to liberate Asia from whitey domination. Any dead people this noble cause resulted in were merely collateral damage. There were good colonialists and bad colonialists, you see. The Japanese, on the whole, were good colonialists. It was a kind of Yellow Lives Matter mentality. With some yellow lives mattering more than others, of course.

          The Japanese lifted the Koreans, the Taiwanese and the Manchurians up from nothing into a state of extreme poverty. In Korea, they built the first dams to generate electricity, allowing lightbulbs to be used for the first time. And they outlawed slavery, much to the chagrin of the Korean slave-owning classes. By contrast, during the Korean War, the Americans bombed every last one of these same dams, putting the lights out. North Korea remains dark on satellite photos to this day.

          In Taiwan, the Japanese eliminated the pirates and bandits that were infesting the country and brought electricity, railways, the post office, and universal education. They were on the point of introducing flushing toilets when they were turfed out at the end of WWII. But they are still well regarded by the older generation of Taiwanese for all the improvements they made to people’s lives in that land. Not so much by the Koreans, but then again, on the whole the Koreans are an ungrateful and resentful bunch. They have been called “the Irish of East Asia”, although that comparison is unkind to the Irish.

          As for China, it was a truly miserable place a century ago in a dark age period and life was nasty, brutal and short. Chinese people were doing everything they could to get into any of the colonies or enclaves run by foreign governments because that was the only way they could escape the terror of living in China—or so I’ve read, heard, and seen in the movies. Had you been Chinese, you would have worked as hard to get into Hong Kong, Shanghai, Macao or Manchuria as many Africans, Middle Easterners and Central Americans do today to get into Europe and the Five Eyes nations.

          • thank you for setting me straight Tim–though i had to utilise my irony sifter for much of it.

            still it was good to know how much the people of Nanking appreciated Japanese tourists in the 1937 tourist season.

            that 3 day break for the common soldier was good for morale all round i guess.

            haven’t the Japanese just agreed to pay reparations to the ‘comfort women’—now that most of the survivors are dead?

      • Ed – I am interested in energy issues.
        Ed says:

        Sam, that is my understanding. The US wanted a war so cut off Japan’s energy.

      • halfvard
        Halfvard says:

        Yes, the US as a “neutral party” embargoed Japan from receiving any petroleum imports basically forcing them into a scenario of suing for peace or attacking the US Navy to try and gain control of petroleum sources by shutting down the US Navy control of the Pacific.

    • Mike Roberts
      Mike Roberts says:

      Yes, but Russia would suffer too, if it turned off a revenue stream, wouldn’t they?

      • true–they would

        but all acts of conflict carry risk to ‘self’–just a matter of balancing one risk against another’

        Europe is a disparate body of nations, whereas a Russia is more or less a single entity.

        the European nations would start screaming loudly if their ‘systems’ crashed, and their comfortable lifestyle was threatened, whereas the Russian people would suffer longer without doing so

        So many variables–impossible to know exactly of course.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Can you stick to the discussion of boosters and getting around (and pies)

  25. hillcountry – retired electronics manufacturing engineer
    hillcountry says:

    More background on the Sirotkin reportage from Feb 2020 at The American Conservative

    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/was-covid19-bioengineered-by-china/

    • nostraightpath60
      nostraightpath60 says:

      Article is from Feb 16 2020 – so initial stages of Covid – read into comments & article they are speculating that will stay in China

      Sounds like Sirotkin thesis/theory has evolved/refined since this initial introduction

    • Gail Tverberg – My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
      Gail Tverberg says:

      Thanks! It seems like a long time ago, now.

    • drb753
      drb says:

      Thanks Michael. I copied it to my disk. Some suggestions were already given here. IMHO extended fasting (3+ days) a couple of times a year will continuously reduce the spike-generating cells by autophagy.

  26. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5HCDvEaxSU

    0:00 stock market, inflation rate
    1:30 background, history,political repression
    4:30 currency,inflation,wages
    6:16 people struggling,prices
    9:38 Erdogan’s bad policies, real estate over investment
    15:35 no free speech or real democracy

    • Gail Tverberg – My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
      Gail Tverberg says:

      About Turkey’s Unraveling Economy

  27. MG says:

    The end of the Yakuza in Japan? An aging mafia fails to attract young people

    https://youtu.be/a670X6oCDWA

  28. JMS says:

    Sorry if this was posted here yet. What in 2010 was seen as a deranged conspiracy theory is now self-evident (except of course to the blind who still believe this is about a virus).

    “Melissa Ciummei, a financial investor from Northern Ireland, has serious concerns that injection passports will be used more like data passports to control participation in society.
    She believes that this passport system was manufactured in order to help bring about a financial reset, replacing our failing fiat currency system. Because passports are so crucial for the successful implementation of this new financial system, mandatory vaccination of all citizens, young and old, will be imperative for the plan to succeed.”

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/buPcp64UMFDX/

    • Gail Tverberg – My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
      Gail Tverberg says:

      Not enough to go around, so need passports for rationing (also, to leave out the unvaccinated)? I haven’t watched the video, however.

    • Rodster says:

      And she is right on target. As currency expert Martin Armstrong has said repeatedly, this is all about control and compliance because the politicians around the world have collapsed the system. They now realize that the debt they have created over the decades and now the growth is now taking place exponentially that it will never be repaid. So according to Martin Armstrong who has advised heads of state since the 80’s, including Reagan, Thatcher, Majors and others that this is all about collapsing the system to as Klaus Schwab has said, to “Build Back Better”.

      Covid 19 is being used as a cover, so the politicians don’t get the blame for what they have done.

      • I don’t get the impression politicians in general have a clue what is going on. They also tend to believe whatever economists tell them, and huge amounts of debt are ‘not a problem’.

      • Yes Rodster.

        Most, if not all of us regulars to this site, know chillingly well, that the plandemic is the perfect cover to bring Modern Industrial Society to its knees. Strangle the helpless, disparate small to medium sized businesses, gaslight the hapless, mindless moronic public, have the hogs closest to the Fed’s money spigot vacuum up everything that’s not nailed down, force mandate all employers to axe employess not jab current, bificurate the public at large by means of high tech tracking mechanisms until they begin to kill each other literally, call in all the markers on the government henchmen that will do the bidding and once these processes are in full swing, get down to brass tax through food and energy resource rationing, a euphemism for starvation. This highly orchestrated and choreagraphed performance for all of the marbles has been referred to as “Peak Oil Musical Chairs.” Look it up!

        At this point, almost 2 years into the rollout, and society as we knew it, is gone forever. Humanity has been irreparably torn apart, with no way back. It would take at least a generation to mend fences, but all of us here on this site know that we don’t have a generation of time ahead of us to make that happen and that’s assuming today or tomorrow, the masses figured it out. Out of oil, is out of oil. There will never be in our generational timeline, anything that remotely replaces the kind of energy we would need just to maintain what we already have, never mind what would be required to continue a growth based economy, regardless as to how modest that growth would be.

        When I occasionally venture out in public, particularly as one of the unwashed, unjabbed population, I don’t recognize society. It’s the twilight zone. The world has become ghettoized, walled off and regulated by means of impossible edicts, goon squads and demoralized victims that find no respite either within or beyond the walls of the ghetto.

        Those of us who have studied our history can taste and smell the encroaching air of outright totalitarianism. What remains as confirmation of the full implementation of totalitarian rule are the cattle cars. Somewhere on the not too distant horizon, they eerily loom.

        • worldofhanumanotg
          worldofhanumanotg says:

          Excellent post.

          If I may add there is noticeable delay in rolling out some of the key features though, some say even up to ~18months “behind” schedule. So, if they now hurry up or skip some previously dialed in key aspects by rushing it – that could ricochet the fine machine away unfinished at least as per previously design framework..

    • Fast Eddy says:

      I bet she’s not aware of the oil story

      • Adonis says:

        That’s right she wouldn’t know much about the oil story but as we all know the energy Is not there for the future

      • JMS says:

        Don’t blame her. Melissa Ciummei is not behind the great reset. She just describes what she sees and draws the proper conclusions, like Whitney Webb or C. Austin Fitts.
        And if the tech-utopian plan is not feasible, it is certainly not because their planners do not know the oil story, since they have known it very well for more than 50 years.

    • Adonis says:

      That does make sence but unfortunately there will be no children left in a couple of years

    • Lidia17 says:

      from July 2020.. Summons from the WEF to the Minister of Finance of the Netherlands:

      “The discussions will focus on shaping policies for the post-Covid-19 era under the theme of the Great Reset. … The Forum will work with your staff to ensure that your participation becomes a major force in shaping the Great Reset. I look forward to welcoming you in Davos.”

      https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHDcr8VWQAMzkcb?format=jpg&name=large

      How is it possible—when in March we were barely at “15 days to slow the spread”—that “they” could know already in July that there would be a “Covid-19 era” and a “post-Covid-19 era”??

  29. [Europe’s energy] crunch is so severe that it’s forcing factories to curb output or shut down altogether.

    “Aluminium Dunkerque Industries France has curbed production in the past two weeks due to high power prices, while Trafigura’s Nyrstar will pause production at its zinc smelter in France in the first week of January. Romanian fertilizer producer Azomures temporarily halted output.”

    https://financialpost.com/commodities/energy/europes-power-crunch-shuts-down-factories-as-prices-hit-record

    • “An unprecedented surge in wholesale gas and power prices is creating a national crisis, UK energy companies have warned.

      “Good Energy, EDF and trade body Energy UK have all stepped up the pressure on the Government to intervene after a “stratospheric” jump in prices.”

      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2021/12/22/ftse-100-markets-live-news-covid-grants-economy-bitcoin/

    • Ed – I am interested in energy issues.
      Ed says:

      Sounds like these need to be produced seasonally in summer and stored for winter when fuel is needed for heating.

      • Gail Tverberg – My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
        Gail Tverberg says:

        Ed,

        Your comment assumes that Europe will really have a surplus available in summer. Summer is when they should be filling what little storage they have with natural gas and coal.

    • Gail Tverberg – My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
      Gail Tverberg says:

      Fewer goods and services are going to be produced in the future in many parts of the world. Somehow, this will have to ripple back into less to buy in the stores. Perhaps failing debt and pension plans, too, but this is less certain.

  30. Student says:

    ‘Toxicity of mRNA vaccines against Covid-19: a survey among embalmers who prepare bodies of dead for burial’ (interesting article)

    https://www.francesoir.fr/societe-sante/toxicite-des-vaccins-arn-contre-la-covid-19-investigation-thanatopracteurs

    • Gail Tverberg – My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
      Gail Tverberg says:

      From the article, based on survey of embalmers:

      What are you currently observing?

      Stroke, heart attacks and unexplained deaths are increasingly seen in people between the ages of 40 and 60.

      Does this happen in your area or is it observed elsewhere?

      To my knowledge in several regions.

      What do you observe in such vaccinated and deceased patients?

      The blood is very thick, the preservative diffuses very well in the arteries at the beginning, but there is a problem of venous return, so that puts the vessels under pressure. The formalin [fluid used by embalmers] does not end up being blocked and one does not collect as much blood as usual. There are a lot of clots blocking the trocar [surgical instrument used by embalmers].

      • JesseJames says:

        A guy I grew up with had his two jab shots and promptly had a stroke. No history of strokes in his family at all. Fortunately for him, it was minor stroke and he is recovering. He said he will never take a shot again.

        A guy I work with had to go to the doctor and receive medication for athritis flaring up in his legs after his two vax shots. He also says he will never get another shot.
        Perhaps…2 wins there, perhaps millions of others, and enough folks rebel against this vax totalitarianism.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      norm … why would twitter block this?

      See what this article reports in Circulation , the number 1 scientific journal for cardiologists:

      “We conclude that mRNA vaccines dramatically increase inflammation on the endothelium and T cell infiltration into heart muscle and may explain the observations of increased thrombosis, cardiomyopathy, and other vascular events after vaccination.”

      https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/circ.144.suppl_1.10712

      • Adonis says:

        That means gatesy will die soon unless he took the placebo

        • Mike Roberts
          Mike Roberts says:

          The paper that Fast Eddy links to has been corrected for various errors. The part that Fast Eddy quoted now reads:

          In conclusion, the mRNA vacs numerically increase (but not statistically tested) the markers IL-16, Fas, and HGF, all markers previously described by others for denoting inflammation on the endothelium and T cell infiltration of cardiac muscle, in a consecutive series of a single clinic patient population receiving mRNA vaccines without a control group.

          Changes were made after the American Heart Association raised concerns. I’ve seen this before in another paper that was linked here, where the AHA pointed out that the evidence was anecdotal and some appeared to have been made up – as mentioned, that was for another paper.

  31. “U.S. could hit Russia smartphone, aircraft part imports if it invades Ukraine.

    “U.S. officials are considering tough export control measures to disrupt Russia’s economy should Russian President Vladmir Putin invade Ukraine, a Biden administration official told Reuters.”

    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/exclusive-us-could-hit-russia-smartphone-aircraft-part-imports-if-it-invades-2021-12-21/

    • “Russia’s financial system would not collapse if it was disconnected from the SWIFT global interbank payments system, the head of the country’s second-largest lender VTB Bank (VTB) said…

      “The media comments follows speculation the White House would push to kick the Kremlin out of the SWIFT payments system if the Russia invaded Ukraine.”

      https://www.cityam.com/russia-will-survive-if-kicked-out-of-swift-system-says-vtb-chief-executive/

    • Ed – I am interested in energy issues.
      Ed says:

      A bipolar world of US/EU and RU/CH. Where do India and Brazil and KSA fit?

      What technology level smartphone can RU/CH produce today? In five years?

      Having smartphones that are ten years behind in tech is that a real problem?

      EU will import its energy as LNG from US???? Good for US. Expensive for EU.

      Again I recommend
      https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/berne-mens-duck-quilt-lined-insulated-coverall

      • Rodster says:

        “What technology level smartphone can RU/CH produce today? In five years?

        They can build whatever they want right now. They have the rare earth materials, the factories to manufacture along with technology/trade secrets. They also have Huawei. The question should be perhaps, what can the US/EU sell without the Chinese?

      • worldofhanumanotg
        worldofhanumanotg says:

        As discussed previously, India already jumped the ship (posing as neutral is enough). KSA and Gulfies already made preparatory steps within OPEC(+)..

      • Gail Tverberg – My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
        Gail Tverberg says:

        Without adequate semiconductor chips, it is not clear to me that anyone will be building cell phones in five or ten years.

        China together with Taiwan would have the best chance of making cell phones.

    • Rodster says:

      None of the above would hurt Russia. The Russians have allied themselves to the Chinese thanks to US sanctions in the past. They have created along with the Chinese their own version of Swift. They also are major oil exporters. China is the worlds factory and Huawei who the US sanctioned would sell them smartphones and technology, instead

      The US is clearly not thinking this thru with their bullying of the world but that’s what happens when an Empire is in decline and on the way out.

      • Ed – I am interested in energy issues.
        Ed says:

        Rodster, basically I agree with you.

        Huawei is a fabless chip designer. They need either Samsung in Korea or TSMC in Taiwan to make the chips for them. Can the US control these two companies and force them to not do business with China?

        • CTG says:

          Please remember that we are all so interconnected that a si angle war in Ukraine will bring down the entire financial system. We are toast. Just waiting for it to happen.

        • Rodster says:

          Yes we are in agreement. So let me flip your question around. Can Samsung afford to build its own stuff in S. Korea? I don’t think so because as we all know, China has become the worlds factory. Can Apple afford to not have China build its own stuff? How about Walmart, Amazon, Google, Microsoft, HP etc? Clearly the answer is NO.

          As we are probably well aware, trade wars are never one sided and do tend to get messy i.e. quid pro quo. If the world was not so interconnected sure you can cutoff a particular player.

          However, Asia is the growing market and as such it would hurt China but not nearly as much as the West. How about if Putin decided to increase the price of NatGas or oil to Europe five fold because he was beyond pissed off? Sure lost sales from Europe but the rest of Asia would consume it.

          This is the problem that develops in a globalized network economy. For each action there is a reaction.

          • worldofhanumanotg
            worldofhanumanotg says:

            You mean like Putin suddenly deciding to five fold natgas price from already elevated (~10-20x) levels by W European own internal sequence of giga mistakes.. ? Therefor ~50-100x om total, .. lol

    • Gail Tverberg – My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
      Gail Tverberg says:

      The “not enough to go around” problem plays out. The US threatens Russia. Russia can retaliate by hacking our computers, among other things, I would expect.

  32. Student says:

    What a funny coincidence!
    In the new tax manoeuvre, there is also a fund for giving a new vaccine, with immuno contraceptive action, to wild boars as they are poliferating too much.
    This new vaccine is called Gona-Cov 🙂

    ‘di qui la destinazione di 500mila euro per sperimentare il vaccino “immuno contraccettivo” GonaCov con l’obiettivo di contrastarne la proliferazione’

    https://www.ilsole24ore.com/art/dalla-frutta-guscio-vaccini-anti-cinghiali-tutte-bandierine-manovra-AEkXRo3

  33. My academic institution sent out the weekly staff newsletter today, earlier than usual since the uni shuts down for the Xmas holidays tomorrow. The leading article:

    “Volunteers sought to assist booster programme

    Volunteers are being sought to help with the roll-out of the national booster vaccination programme in response to the fast-spreading Covid-19 Omicron variant.

    More information about volunteering to help with the rollout of the booster vaccine is available here.”

    Never thought I would get an invitation to mass murder. My family would be suspicious of my motivations if I volunteered. I wonder if pure-bloods are allowed to participate?

    • Xabier says:

      What an opportunity!

      Volunteer: print out the Nuremberg Code and all the Vaers/Yellow Card data, then insist on showing it to each silly sheep before delivering the fatal prick.

      If they don’t really want to do it but are only trying to save their job, recruit them for the Resistance.

  34. Student says:

    Draghi in today press conference has declares that, about spike in energy prices, energy producers need to help families.
    It seems that gambler has run out cards from the table.
    He also used some typical expressions of the so called populist dialogue: ‘they have made fantastic profits lately’
    https://www.altoadige.it/italia-mondo/draghi-aiuti-contro-aumenti-gas-necessario-andare-oltre-1.3088606

  35. hillcountry – retired electronics manufacturing engineer
    hillcountry says:

    Question: Do you think the mainstream virologists and governments will be able cover this up and move on in “business as usual” mode ? If they cannot, all government-funded big science operations will be destroyed from a lack of public trust.

    Dan Sirotkin: Not a chance due to the nature of the quasispecies swarm, and considering this thing started as a LAV [live attenuated virus] that’s already managed to infect every urban center on Earth. Until humanity profoundly changes the way public spaces are ventilated and what public health means, this thing is going to keep killing. But especially since so much of the economic engine runs out people being jammed into buildings like chickens on poultry farms, I don’t see a solution anytime soon. And so long as this virus keeps killing, the survivors will keep looking for answers. All humanity is on the way to being destroyed from a lack of public trust.

    Question: What is going on with the clot-shot? What is their planned end-game? Did the vaccine promoters over-estimate their abilities or was creating maximum chaos their actual goal?

    Dan Sirotkin: Apparently, DARPA and Big Pharma both have had a hard-on for that technology for a long-time, and based on some of the past statements by Bill Gates and Fauci it’s pretty apparent they’ve been planning on how to loophole their way past regulations for a long while as well. Definitely don’t think maximum chaos was ever the goal because these people live on illusion, they have very little idea how to function in the real world at all, and legitimately could not function in most very normal circumstances. As soon as their security teams realize what these people have done, and that the imaginary digits representing their salary have become worthless due to hyperinflation – Nature will take its course.

    Question: Moderna claims it created its vaccine over a weekend, but is that another distraction to hide their ties with WIV? [Wuhan Institute of Virology]

    Dan Sirotkin: Yeah since Big Pharma are the ones with the most scientists in the world familiar with vaccines, and familiar with LAVs – I have a hard time believing that at least at the higher levels they don’t know exactly what’s going on. But I’m not sure how much of that is ever going to be proven, and to me what’s even worse is that the entire theory around these vaccines was so obviously broken from the start based on what we know from poultry farms. Targeting one-protein has never worked against a coronavirus, ever, and it’s created some catastrophic results as well.

    A lot more of interest at:

    https://harvard2thebighouse.substack.com/p/the-last-interview-the-sirotkins

    hillcountry: what I’m trying to figure out: is the naming of variants a deception; not that certain specific genomes don’t exist, but perhaps as tips of viral-icebergs like Dan Sirotkin seems to be saying. What if the underlying reality is that it is a ‘swarm’ of gene-swapping rapidly-evolving viruses that presently exist within many infected individuals (some infected more than once); each of them under a wide variety of various virus-altering pressures, and given that there’s uniqueness between individuals, and then finally some swapping of infectivity between people when they’re crammed close together; what the heck is really being identified when genetic-sequencing is actually done? Are different organs even being sampled? Can it be that there are there differently adapted viruses from whatever ‘mother-virus’, penetrating into different organs; and where would this be determined if at all? Seems like autopsy would be the only place where that’s possible.

    • Gail Tverberg – My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
      Gail Tverberg says:

      Thanks for these comments from Dan.

      The fact that the theory behind these mRNA vaccines was known to be broken from the start, based on what happened with poultry farms, is important.

      • Xabier says:

        This is a very important point, Gail.

        Mike Yeadon & Co. also brought the fundamental flaws in both the ‘vaccines’ and the trials to the attention of the regulators even before they were deployed, and they have also directly approached politicians here in the UK with evidence of the harm being caused.

        As Bhakdi said, ‘basic biology’ enabled an accurate prediction of what would happen if they were deployed in whole populations.

        This is clearly not being doing in ignorance, at least by the scientific establishment (although I suspect most politicians are incapable of grasping the issues and believe the regulators are to be trusted).

    • nostraightpath60
      nostraightpath60 says:

      The best place to sample per his other writing is in fecal samples – multi-variants could show up there and he speculates that reason for Chinese demanding such samples.
      Remember beginning covid there was big question how was transmitted? Fecal-Oral was (and may still be) one of primary candidate routes. (Aerosols from toilet suspended in air or on surfaces in bathrooms)(primary public place that should have had focus of sanitation efforts w/ disinfection of air/surfaces)

      Many cities set up monitoring of influent from sewers to WasteWater (WW) plants or at exit of institutional building as early warning of infections (virus shows up in fecal waste before infected person show symptoms) and relative spread (concentrations in waste increase as more people get sick) Historical samples (yes in major cities they archive the stuff) have been analysed and purported to have evidence of Sars-2 prior to acknowledged outbreak.

    • Jef Jelten
      Jef Jelten says:

      There is nothing menacing about “swarming” and his “quasispecies” theory can easily be accepted and explained through the new understanding of viruses and the virome.

      What he leaves out completely (unless it fits his train of logic) is the human body’s ability to deal with all of this and the fact that it has been dealing with it very well for a hundred thousand years or so.

      Whats new here is not super scary super bugs “attacking” humans. It is (and has always been off and on) humans becoming increasingly attacked from land, sea and air, by poisonous, toxic pollution and processed foods.

      It will not be long before a simple cold will have a fatality rate of over 50% and no “pharmaceutical will be able to stop it.

      FYI – Pharmaceuticals do not make anyone healthy. They simply allow you to remain unhealthy but maybe not die. The never address the cause of the symptom that the pharmaceutical ameliorates and in fact always induce several other bad symptoms which must also require additional pharmaceuticals inducing additional symptoms…….

    • Gail Tverberg – My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
      Gail Tverberg says:

      I did go back and read the link you provided to the new “The Last Interview” post.

      I learned a few additional things, but I was left as confused as ever about exactly how this all started in Wuhan. Also, why the initial illnesses seemed so severe, and why the severity seemed to drop so rapidly. Clearly, a tendency toward less severity would allow the virus to spread more.

      The only thing that would seem to get in the way of lesser severity would be ADE and perhaps damage to the immune system created by earlier vaccines, or perhaps by lockdowns and avoidance of viruses in general.

      • Student says:

        Maybe mass vaccination provides the push for creating more variants, increasing the infectivity factor and, at the same time, mass vaccination with mRNA vaccines (focused on a specific spike protein) provides the damage to the immune system (see ADE or OAS) which is necessary to create an incredibly wide damage on world population.
        -> Vicious circle created.
        In other words, we probably have now less dangerous variants on the field, but which make high damage on population, including those who were previously healthy.
        Therefore, in this way, vaccines will be necessary in the future, just as a drug doses are necessary to an addicted person.

        This would also explain why China is accepting to play the ‘game of variants’, stopping economy when necessary (which is useful for them) and creating a society of control (also useful and almost ready for them), but it is not accepting playing the game of damaging population.
        They know they can say to their population: ‘stay at home just because I tell you’.
        And also China doesn’t have a specific private industry-sector to make it earn money.

        • Student says:

          About initial severity of the whuan virus, I remember that Montagnier said last year that the initial virus was highly dangerous, but, as it was artificial, it was at the same time not stable.
          He said the virus would have lost is stability soon.
          Therefore it was absolutely necessary avoid mass vaccination and give medical treatments to people as the virus would have stabilized itself naturally in a less severe disease.
          Now we probably have a less severe virus which is become highly infectious, but against a weakened population.
          Of course this is just speculation.

      • Mike Roberts
        Mike Roberts says:

        I can’t see how a less virulent virus would allow it to spread more. There used to be a general feeling that this was the case but all the science stories I’ve read about viruses state that this is not thought not to be the case. Indeed, with 8 billion hosts available, there is no lack of chances to spread, so no selection pressure to be more, or less, virulent.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Question : if Big Pharma has the power to force every country including China and Russia to deploy the vaccines and to force the MSM to support this deployment and the power to silence all dissent… why do they bother wasting their time peddling these dangerous products and instead siphon a couple of trillion into their coffers from the Fed and other central banks?

      Dan Sirotkin: good question.

      1. We know that the energy situation is getting more desperate by the day

      2. We know that Covid is a fat lie and the goal is to use the lie to stuff vaccines into bodies.

      3. We know that deploying leaky vaccines during pandemics is likely to end in catastrophe

      4. We know that so far we are not experiencing a catastrophic outcome (omicrom is early days though)

      5. We know that governments are now targeting kids as young as 5 with babies up next

      6. We know that there are billions of people who will not be offered the vaccines (most of Africa..)

      7. We know that there are large numbers of people in the OECD that will refuse the vaccines.

      I am thinking… there must be some reason they are trying to inject as many people as possible and get boosters into them asap….

      I am thinking they may have expected a Marek’s type disease to emerge by now … but it’s not happened … so they pushed omicron out there and are hyping it to make a huge push to get people jabbed and increase the production of mutations….

      I am thinking … there is no guarantee that the mutation they seek … will emerge in the time frame they were expecting … this has never been done before … effectively this is a massive experiment that involved billions of people … and it could fail.

      I am thinking … if we don’t get that mutation soon … BAU folds… and 8B deadly predators will be left in the dark.. without food…

      https://media.giphy.com/media/5yuC2vIsQJdoA/giphy.gif

  36. Michael Le Merchant
    Michael Le Merchant says:

    Spain PPI – 33.1%!

    The surge in energy costs has driven up prices at the factory gate in Spain by a third in the last year.

    Spanish industrial production prices in November hit a record high for the second month in a row the Spanish National Statistics Institute (INE) reports.

    Prices jumped 33.1% year on year in November, the fastest annual pace since the data series began in January 1976, INE said, up from 31.9% in October.

    Soaring energy costs drove the increase, rising 88.3% per year in November, due to higher prices for gas production, distribution and oil refining.
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHM5EdVXEAA-Xu1?format=jpg&name=medium

    • Gail Tverberg – My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
      Gail Tverberg says:

      Spain will not be able to create many goods and sell them at a profit, with such horrendous costs inflation. Perhaps “services” will do a little better, but the net result is that the economy will need to be held up by more debt, if there is any way for it to keep from collapsing.

      • worldofhanumanotg
        worldofhanumanotg says:

        Yes, this supports the often repeated debate here on the general mega trend of outward->inward peeling off layers. This year Turkey was knocked out, and it seems several of the PIGS (EU) will be at least partially triaged out for good (in some sectors not salvaged anymore) as well..

        How could Italy/Spain (natgas) compete with Poland (coal and imported low wage workforce) for hosting subsidiary of German industries or Chinese imports (of finished products) for that matter.

        So, the next and final layer is when “finally” Germany, France go under substantially, could be linked near-mid term this very cycle or perhaps could come in some later rounds ~2025-35 though..

        • Ed – I am interested in energy issues.
          Ed says:

          30-35 for Germany/France I find that hard to believe. They will both exist in that time frame but I see it more as focused on feeding themselves little imports/exports.

          • CTG says:

            2025-2035.. so optimistic. Getting past this big inflation and EU energy crisis, I am not sure how it will go. I live by the day.

            • worldofhanumanotg
              worldofhanumanotg says:

              This Big inflation, where specifically?
              Yes Turkey evaporated ~75% of PP in few months, but core closer regions few percent only.. again.. peeling..peeling.. first S America then ME then EU* periphery and then the core and finally fatcat’s boltholes (as seen in Eddy’s B-flic material)..

              It took W Roman Empire ~200yrs of roller coaster crisis, so there could be few years still ahead for us, even with the insane leverage of legacy energy.

              __
              * here kitty that’s roughly today’s stage

  37. “Dozens killed in ‘barbaric, senseless’ violence in Nigeria.

    “President Muhammadu Buhari’s office says at least 45 farmers were killed in the violence between farmers and herders in central Nigeria.”

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/12/22/nigeria-ethnic-violence-toll-jumps-to-45

    • “Cameroonian authorities say troops have arrested hundreds of armed men blamed for communal violence in the northeast this month that displaced more than a hundred thousand people — most to neighboring Chad.

      “Authorities say they also seized hundreds of weapons as well as cattle stolen during the conflict over scarce resources.”

      https://allafrica.com/stories/202112220010.html

      • worldofhanumanotg
        worldofhanumanotg says:

        ~ 100 : 100k !

        • Gail Tverberg – My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
          Gail Tverberg says:

          A very effective group of “hundreds” of men.

  38. “Panasonic, the latest foreign manufacturer to be hit by severe flooding in Malaysia, announced on Wednesday the temporary suspension of production at its factory near Kuala Lumpur, the capital, after it was inundated by heavy rains.”

    https://asia.nikkei.com/Economy/Natural-disasters/Panasonic-Daihatsu-halt-Malaysian-plants-after-flash-floods

  39. I see that Donald (Conspiracy king) Trump has had his booster shot

    strike his name from your entourage list eddy—welcome him no more at court

    • Xabier says:

      The idea that ‘anti-vaxxers’ are in some way pro-Trump is one of the most perverse misconceptions of your decaying brain, Norman.

      This has NOTHING to do with politics or personalities, in fact resistance to this Great Lie and Great Crime demolishes all the old boundaries.

      • i just add it to the list of ‘great lies’ etc that float around OFW

        i’ve always had the ability to decide for myself, on some things

        sometime right–sometimes wrong

        but never swayed by obvious hysteria—and particularly never swayed by ‘truth’ emanating from sources that have delivered only the consistency of nonsenses on previous subjects

    • Z says:

      Kind of funny how you now believe Trump when he says he had his booster…..

      I am sure you would have considered him a liar while he was in office….

      LOL

      • the don lies when it is in his interests to do so—ie most of the time

        i can’t see what benefit it could be to him to lie on this occasiom

        • Fast Eddy says:

          usually norm doesn’t answer…

          watch me toy with norm… I have trained him not to answer:

          norm… why are we vaccinating the children

        • Z says:

          I am willing to bet large sums of money that he is lying regarding this…..

          he is a con man that is well adept at lying but it is easy to see that he wants to take credit for operation warp speed and get people to take these which he thinks are somehow stopping and preventing COVID which is entirely fake

          he is part of the NWO as a scripted actor…..the guy literally had a tv show for c***** sakes

    • Fast Eddy says:

      He was never in the FE entourage… in case you missed it … POTUS has ZERO power. He takes orders from the Elders

      WVK?

  40. Fast Eddy says:

    Disinfection On Asiana Aircraft As South Korea Combats Omicron

    Omicron at Least Doubles Risk of Getting Infected on a Plane

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-12-22/omicron-at-least-doubles-risk-of-getting-infected-on-a-plane?srnd=premium-asia

    = don’t fly – conserve oil

    • Ed – I am interested in energy issues.
      Ed says:

      Flying to Florida on the 29th.

    • Gail Tverberg – My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
      Gail Tverberg says:

      “Business class may be safer than more densely packed economy cabins, said David Powell, physician and medical adviser to the International Air Transport Association, which represents almost 300 carriers worldwide”

      I found this statement in the link. I am somewhat skeptical. I expect it helps sell more business class tickets, however.

  41. Student says:

    I received this news. Do you think it is possible ? What do they have in mind?

    ‘US Army Creates Single Vaccine Against All COVID & SARS Variants, Researchers Say
    Within weeks, Walter Reed researchers expect to announce that human trials show success against Omicron—and even future strains.’

    https://www.defenseone.com/technology/2021/12/us-army-creates-single-vaccine-effective-against-all-covid-sars-variants/360089/

    • Ed – I am interested in energy issues.
      Ed says:

      I appreciate your post. My guess it is technically possible but why are they being allowed to do it? Hard to see how this could fit into the current plans.

    • Gail Tverberg – My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
      Gail Tverberg says:

      I think the most important part of this announcement is “expect to announce”.

      Of course, success will be narrowly focused, as with today’s mRNA vaccines. Probably still catch them and pass them around.

      How about ADE? Safety testing?

      I would like to hear the analysis of some of the experts on this.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      I think this is … funny… particularly ‘and even future strains’

      • Adrian says:

        This is like the novavax protein vaccine. More like a traditional vaccine in creating a whole system response like an infection. So should be pretty much sterilising and effective one shot vaccine. As far as I can tell.

      • Gail Tverberg – My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
        Gail Tverberg says:

        It sounds like we cannot get a vaccine to work for a known rapidly mutating virus swarm, partly because the manifestation of the virus keeps changing. I expect that this idea is simply “pie-in-the-sky.”

        Without any liability for wrong actions, why not shoot for the sky? The result is “Heads the vaccine industry wins; tales the citizens lose.”

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