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A major reason for the growth in the use of renewable energy is the fact that if a person looks at them narrowly enough–such as by using a model–wind and solar look to be useful. They don’t burn fossil fuels, so it appears that they might be helpful to the environment.
As I analyze the situation, I have reached the conclusion that energy modeling misses important points. I believe that profitability signals are much more important. In this post, I discuss some associated issues.
Overview of this Post
In Sections [1] through [4], I look at some issues that energy modelers in general, including economists, tend to miss when evaluating both fossil fuel energy and renewables, including wind and solar. The major issue in these sections is the connection between high energy prices and the need to increase government debt. To prevent the continued upward spiral of government debt, any replacement for fossil fuels must also be very inexpensive–perhaps as inexpensive as oil was prior to 1970. In fact, the real limit to fossil fuel extraction and to the building of new wind turbines and solar panels may be government debt that becomes unmanageable in an inflationary period.
In Section [5], I try to explain one reason why published Energy Return on Energy Investment (EROEI) indications give an overly favorable impression of the value of adding a huge amount of renewable energy to the electric grid. The basic issue is that the calculations were not set up for this purpose. These models were set up to evaluate the efficiency of generating a small amount of wind or solar energy, without consideration of broader issues. If these broader issues were included, EROEI indications would be much lower (less favorable).
One of the broader issues omitted is the fact that the electrical output of wind turbines and solar panels does not match up well with the timing needs of society, leading to the need for a great deal of energy storage. Another omitted issue is the huge quantity of energy products and other materials required to make a transition to a mostly electrical economy. It is easy to see that both omitted issues would add a huge amount of energy costs and other costs, if a major transition is made. Furthermore, wind and solar have gotten along so far using hidden subsidies from the fossil fuel energy system, including the subsidy of being allowed to go first on the electricity grid. EROEI calculations cannot evaluate the amount of this hidden subsidy.
In Section [6], I point out the true indicator of the feasibility of renewables. If electricity generation using wind and solar energy are truly helpful to the economy, they will generate a great deal of taxable income. They will not require the subsidy of going first, or any other subsidy. This does not describe today’s wind or solar.
In Section [7] and [8], I explain some of the reasons why EROEI calculations for wind and solar tend to be misleadingly favorable, even apart from broader issues.
Economic Issues that Energy Modelers Tend to Miss
[1] The economy is very short of oil that is inexpensive-to-extract. The economy seems to require a great deal more government debt when energy prices are high. Models for renewable energy production need to consider this issue, even if any substitution for oil is very indirect.
I think of the problem of rising energy prices for an economy as being like a citizen faced with an increase in food costs. The citizen will attempt to balance his budget by adding more debt, at least until his credit cards get maxed out. This is why we should expect to see an increase in government debt when oil prices are high; oil and other fossil fuels are as essential to the economy as food is to humans.
Figure 1 shows that most US government funding shortfalls occurred when oil prices were above $20 per barrel, in inflation-adjusted prices. For the 15-year period 2008 through 2022, US government expenditures were 26% higher than its receipts.
Figure 2 shows a reference chart of average annual oil prices, adjusted for inflation.
Figure 2. Average annual inflation-adjusted Brent oil prices based on data from BP’s 2022 Statistical Review of World Energy.
The reason why oil prices tend to be high now is because the inexpensive-to-extract oil has mostly been extracted. What is left is oil that is expensive to extract. The low prices in the years surrounding 1998 reflected a supply-demand mismatch after the Asian Economic Crisis of 1997. The crisis held down demand at the same time as production was ramping up in Iraq, Venezuela, Canada, and Mexico.
[2] Economists tend to assume that shortages of oil will lead to much higher fossil fuel prices, thereby making renewables inexpensive in comparison. One reason this doesn’t happen is related to the buildup of debt, noted in Figure 1, when oil prices are high.
Section [1] shows that high oil prices seem to be associated with government deficits. A high-priced substitute for oil would almost certainly have a similar problem. This governmental debt tends to build up, and at some point becomes almost unmanageable.
A major problem occurs when there is a round of inflation. Central banks find a need to increase interest rates, partly to keep lenders interested in lending in an inflationary economy and partly to try to slow the inflation rate. In fact, the US is currently being tested by such a debt buildup and increase in interest rates, beginning about January 2022 (Figure 3).
Higher interest rates tend to have the effect of slowing the economy. In part, the economy slows because the cost of borrowing money rises. As a result, businesses are less likely to expand, and would-be auto owners are likely to put off new purchases because of the higher monthly payments. Commercial real estate can also be adversely affected by rising interest rates if owners of buildings find it impossible to raise rents fast enough to keep up with higher interest rates on mortgages and higher costs of other kinds.
[3] It is uncertain in exactly which ways the economy might contract, in response to higher interest rates. Some ways the economy could contract would bring an early end to both the extraction of fossil fuels and the manufacturing of renewables. This is not reflected in models.
If the economy contracts, one possible result is a recession with lower oil prices. This clearly doesn’t fix the problem of the cost of wind and solar electricity being unacceptably high, especially when the cost of all the batteries and additional transmission lines is included. In some sense, the price needs to be equivalent to a $20 per barrel oil price, or lower, to stop the huge upward debt spiral.
Another possibility, rather than the US economy as a whole contracting, is that the US government will disproportionately contract; perhaps it will send many programs back to the states. In such a scenario, there is likely to be less, rather than more, funding for renewables. I understand that Republicans in Texas are already unhappy with the high level of wind and solar generation being used there.
A third possibility is hyperinflation, as the government tries to add more money to keep the overall system, especially banks and pension plans, from failing. Even with hyperinflation, there is no particular benefit to renewables.
A fourth possibility is disruption of trade relationships between the US and other countries. This could even be related to a new world war. Renewables depend upon worldwide supply lines, just as today’s fossil fuels do. Building and maintaining the electrical grid also requires worldwide supply lines. As these supply lines break, all parts of the system will be difficult to maintain; replacement infrastructure after storms will become problematic. Renewables may not last any longer than fossil fuels.
[4] Economists tend to miss the fact that oil prices, and energy prices in general, need to be both high enough for the producer to make a profit and low enough for consumers to afford finished goods made with the energy products. This two-way tug-of-war tends to keep oil prices lower than most economists would expect, and indirectly caps the total amount of oil that can be extracted.
Figure [2] shows that, on an annual average basis, inflation-adjusted Brent oil prices have only exceeded $120 per barrel during the years 2011, 2012 and 2013. On an annual basis, oil prices have not exceeded that level since then. For a while, forecasts of oil prices as high as $300 per barrel in 2014 US dollars were being shown as an outside possibility (Figure 4).
With close to another decade of experience, it has become clear that high oil prices don’t “stick” very well. The economy then slides into recession, or some other adverse event takes place, bringing oil prices back down again. The relatively low maximum to fossil fuel prices tends to lead to a much earlier end to fossil fuel extraction than most analyses of available resource amounts would suggest.
OPEC+ tends to reduce supply because they find prices too low. US drillers of oil from shale formations (tight oil in Figure 4) have been reducing the number of drilling rigs because oil prices are not high enough to justify more investment. Politicians know that voters dislike inflation, so they take actions to hold down fossil fuel prices. All these approaches tend to keep oil prices low, and indirectly put a cap on output.
Why Indications from EROEI Analyses Don’t Work for Electrification of the Economy
[5] Energy Return on Energy Invested (EROEI) analyses were not designed to analyze the situation of a massive scaling up of wind and solar, as some people are now considering. If utilized for this purpose, they provide a far too optimistic an outlook for renewables.
The EROEI calculation compares the energy output of a system to the energy input of the system. A high ratio is good; a low ratio tends to be a problem. As I noted in the introduction, published EROEIs of wind and solar are prepared as if they are to be only a very small part of electricity generation. It is assumed that other types of generation can essentially provide free balancing services for wind and solar, even though doing so will adversely affect their own profitability.
A recent review paper by Murphy et al. seems to indicate that wind and solar have favorable EROEIs compared to those of coal and natural gas, at point of use. I don’t think that these favorable EROEIs really mean very much when it comes to the feasibility of scaling up renewables, for several reasons:
[a] The pricing scheme generally used for wind and solar electricity tends to drive out other forms of electrical generation. In most places where wind and solar are utilized, the output of wind and solar is given priority on the grid, distorting the wholesale prices paid to other providers. When high amounts of wind or solar are available, wind and solar generation are paid the normal wholesale electricity price for electricity, while other electricity providers are given very low or negative wholesale prices. These low prices force other providers to reduce production, making it difficult for them to earn an adequate return on their investments.
This approach is unfair to other electricity providers. It is especially unfair to nuclear because most of its costs are fixed. Furthermore, most plants cannot easily ramp electricity production up and down. A recently opened nuclear plant in Finland (which was 14 years behind plan in opening) is already experiencing problems with negative wholesale electricity rates, and because of this, is reducing its electricity production.
Historical data shows that the combined contribution of wind, solar, and nuclear doesn’t necessarily increase the way that a person might expect if wind and solar are truly adding to electricity production. In Europe, especially, the availability of wind and solar seems to be being used as an excuse to close nuclear power plants. With the pricing scheme utilized, plants generating nuclear energy tend to lose money, encouraging the owners of plants to close them.
The US has been providing subsidies to its nuclear plants to prevent their closing. When one form of electricity gets a subsidy, even the subsidy of going first, other forms of electricity seem to need a subsidy to compete.
[b] Small share of energy supply. Based on Figure 5, the total of wind, solar, and nuclear electricity only provides about 6.1% of the world’s total energy supply. An IEA graph of world energy consumption (Figure 6) doesn’t even show wind and solar electricity separately. Instead, they are part of the thin orange “Other” line at the top of the chart; nuclear is the dark green line above Natural Gas.
Given the tiny share of wind and solar today, ramping them up, or those fuels plus a few others, to replace all other energy supplies seems like it would be an amazingly large stretch. If the economy is, in fact, much like a human in that it cannot substantially reduce energy consumption without collapsing, drastically reducing the quantity of energy consumed by the world economy is not an option if we expect to have an economy remotely like today’s economy.
[c] Farming today requires the use of oil. Transforming farming to an electrical operation would be a huge undertaking. Today’s farm machinery is mostly powered by diesel. Food is transported to market in oil-powered trucks, boats, and airplanes. Herbicides and pesticides used in farming are oil-based products. There is no easy way of converting the energy system used for food production and distribution from oil to electricity.
At a minimum, the entire food production system would need to be modeled. What inventions would be needed to make such a change possible? What materials would be required for the transformation? Where would all these materials come from? How much debt would be required to fund this transformation?
The only thing that the EROEI calculation could claim is that if such a system could be put in place, the amount of fossil fuels used to operate the system might be low. The overwhelming complexity of the necessary transformation has not been modeled, so its energy cost is omitted from the EROEI calculation. This is one way that calculated EROEIs are misleadingly optimistic.
[d] EROEI calculations do not include any energy usage related to the storage of electricity until it is needed. Solar energy is most available during the summer. Thus, the most closely matched use of solar electricity is to power air conditioners during summer. Even in this application, several hours’ worth of battery storage are needed to make the system work properly because air conditioners continue to operate after the sun sets. Also, people who come home from work need to cook dinner for their families, and this takes electricity. Energy costs related to electricity storage are not reflected in the EROEIs shown in published summaries such as those of the Murphy analysis.
A much more important need than air conditioning is the need for heat energy in winter to heat homes and offices. Neither wind nor solar can be counted upon to provide electricity when it is cold outside. One workaround would be to greatly overbuild the system, so that there would be a better chance of the renewable source producing enough electricity when it is needed. Adding several days of storage through batteries would be helpful too. An alternate approach would be to store excess electricity indirectly, by using it to produce a liquid such as hydrogen or methanol. Again, all of this becomes complex. It needs to be tried on small scale, and the real cost of the full system determined.
Both the need to overbuild the system and the need to provide storage are excluded from EROEI calculations. These are yet other ways that EROEI calculations provide an overly optimistic view of the value of wind and solar.
[e] Long distance travel. We use oil products for long distance transport by ship, air, truck, and train. If changes are to be made to use electricity or some sort of “green fuels,” this is another area where the entire change would need to be mapped out for feasibility, including the inventions needed, the materials required, and the debt this change would entail. What timeframe would be required? Would there be any possibility of achieving the transformation by 2050? I doubt it.
The conversion of all transportation to green energy is very much like the needed conversion of the food system from oil to electricity, discussed in [5c], above. Huge complexity is involved, but the energy cost of this added complexity has been excluded from EROEI calculations. This further adds to the misleading nature of EROEI indications for renewables.
[f] A dual system is probably needed. Even if it makes sense to ramp up wind and solar, there still will be a need for many products that are today made with fossil fuels. Fossil fuels are used in paving roads and for making lubrication for machines. Herbicides, insecticides, and pharmaceutical products are often made from fossil fuels. Natural gas is often used to make ammonia fertilizer. Fabrics and building materials are often made using fossil fuels.
Thus, it is almost certain that a dual system would be needed, encompassing both fossil fuels and electricity. There are likely to be inefficiencies in such a dual system. If intermittent renewables such as wind and solar are to be a major part of the economy, this inefficiency needs to be part of any model and needs to be reflected in EROEI calculations.
[g] “Renewable” devices are not themselves recyclable. Instead, they present a waste disposal problem. Solar panels especially present a toxic waste problem. Without much recycling, there is a long term need for minerals of many types to be extracted and transported around the world. These issues are not considered in modeling.
Profitability of Unsubsidized Renewables Is the Best Measure
[6] If renewables are to be truly useful to the system, they need to be so profitable that their profits can be taxed at a high rate. Furthermore, sufficient funds should be left over for reinvestment. The fact that this is not happening is a sign that renewables are not truly helpful to the economy.
Some people talk about the need for “surplus energy” from energy sources to power an economy. I connect this surplus energy with the ability of any energy source to generate income that can be taxed at a fairly high rate. In fact, I gave a talk to the International Society for Biophysical Economics on September 7, 2021, called, To Be Sustainable, Green Energy Must Generate Adequate Taxable Revenue.
The need for surplus energy that can be transferred to the government is closely connected with the debt problem that occurs when oil prices are higher than about $20 per barrel that I noted in Section [1] of this post. Renewable energy must be truly inexpensive, with all storage included, to be helpful to the economy. It must be affordable to citizens, without subsidies. The cost structure must be such that the renewable energy generates so much profit that it can pay high taxes. It is unfortunately clear that today’s renewables are too expensive for the US economy.
EROEI Models Can’t Tell Us as Much as We Would Like
[7] In the real economy, the economy builds up in small pieces, as new approaches prove to be profitable and as all the necessary components prove to be available. EROEI models shortcut this process, but they can easily be misleading.
The concept of Energy Return on Energy Invested has been used for many years in the field of biology. For example, we can compare the energy a fish gets from the food it eats to the energy the fish expends swimming to procure that food. The fish needs to get sufficient energy value from the food it eats to be able to cover the energy expended on the swim, plus a margin for other bodily functions, including reproduction.
Professor Charles Hall (and perhaps others) adapted this concept for use in comparing different energy “extraction” (broadly defined) techniques. More recent researchers have tried to extend the calculation to include energy costs of delivery to the user.
The adaptation of the biological concept of EROEI to the various processes associated with energy extraction works in some respects but not in others. The adaptation clearly works as a tool for teaching diminishing returns. It gives reasonable information for comparing oil wells to each other, or solar panels to other solar panels. But I don’t think that EROEI comparisons across energy types works well at all.
One issue is that there are huge differences in the selling prices of different types of energy. These are ignored in EROEI calculations, making it look feasible to use a high-priced type of energy (such as oil) to produce a low-valued type of output (intermittent electricity from wind turbines or solar panels). If profitability calculations were made instead, without mandates or subsidies (including the subsidy of going first), the extent to which there is a favorable return would become clear.
Another issue is that intermittency of wind and solar adds huge costs to the system, but these are ignored in EROEI calculations. (The situation is somewhat like having workers drop in and leave according to their own schedules, rather than working during the schedule the employer prefers.) In EROEI calculations, the assumption usually made is that the fossil fuel system will provide free balancing services by operating their electricity generation systems in an inefficient manner. In fact, this is the assumption made in the Murphy paper cited previously.
An analysis by Graham Palmer gives some insight regarding the high energy cost of adding battery backup (Figure 7).
In Figure 7, Palmer shows the pattern of energy investment and energy payback for a particular off-grid home in Australia which uses solar panels and battery backup. His zig-zag chart reflects two offsetting impacts:
(a) Energy investment was required at the beginning, both for the solar panels and for the first set of batteries. The solar panels in this analysis last for 30 years, but the batteries only last for 7.5 years. As a result, it is necessary to invest in new batteries, three additional times over the period.
(b) Solar panels only gradually make their payback.
Palmer finds that the system would be in a state of energy deficit (considering only energy out versus energy in) for 20 years. At the end of 30 years, the combined system would return only 1.3 times as much energy as the energy invested in the system. This is an incredibly poor payback! EROEI enthusiasts usually look for a payback of 10 or more. The solar panels in the analysis were close to this target level, at 9.4. But the energy required for the battery backup brought the EROEI down to 1.3.
Palmer’s analysis points out another difficulty with wind and solar: The energy payback is terribly slow. If we burn fossil fuels, the economy gets a payback immediately. If we manufacture wind turbines or solar panels, there is a far longer period of something that might be called, “energy indebtedness.” EROEI calculations conveniently ignore interest charges, again making the situation look better than it really is. The buildup in debt is also ignored.
Thus, even without the issue of scaling up renewables if we are to make a transition to energy system more focused on electricity, EROEI calculations are set up in a way that make intermittent renewable energy look far more feasible than it really is. “Energy Payback Period” is another similar metric, with similar biases.
The fact that these metrics are misleading is difficult to see. Very inexpensive fossil fuels pay back their cost many times over, in terms of societal gain, virtually immediately. Wind turbines and solar panels depend upon the generosity of the fossil fuel system to get any payback at all because intermittent electricity cannot support an economy like today’s economy. Even then, the payback is only available over a period of years.
I am afraid that the only real way of analyzing the feasibility of scaling up electricity using wind and solar is by looking at whether they can be extraordinarily profitable, without subsidies. If so, they can be highly taxed and end our government debt problem. The fact that wind and solar require subsidies and mandates, year after year, should make it clear that they aren’t solutions.
The 14 cardinals (and two others) who died in 2021 | ROME REPORTS
https://www.romereports.com/en/2021/12/31/the-14-cardinals-and-two-others-who-died-in-2021/
Look at her teeth https://t.me/c/1588731774/18126
Check out the vile thing in purple on the left https://t.me/TommyRobinsonNews/48634
And who has the power to order Lockhead to support this rubbish
See norm … it’s ok to do this
Someone who’d ostracized me during Covid said it out loud: “You were right. Never again.”
https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/it-finally-happened
come on man… if you were to admit you f789ed up (and vaxxed the grand kids) that would be a step towards redemption …
Some OFWers might start to say — norm is not a total fool…
mike? Don’t waffle on us … that does not help your reputation… you need to come out and tell us you really f789ed up … I guarantee you – if you do that — we will NEVER again mention The Quote.
What do you say mike???
PATHOLOGIST DR. ARNE BURKHARDT: AUTOPSIES SHOW THE MRNA VACCINE SHREDS PEOPLE FROM WITHIN
https://www.bitchute.com/video/U4d72SLd54l2/
Don’t forget, that Arne Burkhard, who has died recently and who brought research a huge step forward, has autopsiesed only people, whose death seemed suspicious to their families. While this is clear proof, that they have been killed by the vaxx and while it is theoretically conclusive, how the vaxx caused their death, it is not yet proven that the claimed composition was in every injected dose. That might explain, why we see so little sideeffects compared to the administered dosis. After three years we should see more damage. So the producers can still claim, that their product is safe. In the next pandemic, there might be another outcome.
I have recently heard the number of estimated 6 Mio severely damaged in Germany (80 mio inhabitants), that is around 10% of the vaxxed population.
While the symptoms may differ, the underlying principles are clear: the injections cause every cell to produce the spike protein and is as a consequence attacked by the immune system. This process does not stop. Burkhard has shown consequences of these attacks: infiltrations of leukocytes (diagnosed as myocarditis), dissolution of vessels, clottings, microclottings, defective nerves, organ failure, necrotizing brain. Which symptom occurs first is chance related.
There may be more longtime risks, cancer, infertility, weaker immune system, Binary Poison – for all exist strong indicators or even proofs. Of course that may be crime and of course governments failed. Pfizer claimed in front of EU parliament, that the vaxx was never designed to stop transmission or infection and cannot precent both. All suspense of Human Rights based on the vaxx status seem to be illegal.
But it is not satisfying logically. Either a mechanism exists or not. If it exists (Burkhard has proven it does) there should be an explanation, why it does not occur all the time. Levels of mRNA and DNA content in each dose were high. There has never been any adaptation to size, body mass or age. Children have been injected the same amount as obese adults. The outcome is not, what should be expected.
One explaination would be, that immune systems react differently and 90% get used to the permanent auto-immune attacks. Another would be, that the dosis had not all the same compositions.
Maiming and killing large numbers is a bad outcome (a random cull collapses BAU at some point) — whatever they are doing surely must have broader intent >>> extermination.
Otherwise why not simply tweak their rubbish flu vaccine and inject that into the MORE-ONS?
More Schad hahaha
Kathy Griffin has lung cancer; rocker Mike Ness has tonsil cancer; BLK Jeez has multiple myeloma; Phillies broadcaster Gregg Murphy has leukemia; Joy Behar absent from “The View” for “health reasons”
“Social influencer” Jackie Miller James has ruptured brain aneurysm; Michael Grimm, winner of “America’s Got Talent,” now in ICU; Mexican actress Michelle Renaud hospitalized
https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/p/kathy-griffin-has-lung-cancer-rocker
Eddy you keep me happy!
I love the smell of Schad in the evening.
Too bad she’s not fit and hot …
https://youtu.be/DPP3DpFtZr4
When do we get Trannies dancing to this?
https://youtu.be/z0On2E4Fylc?t=462
Open up Doomie Prepper – give us that food you bitch!
https://t.me/leaklive/14648
https://www.dailyo.in/news/what-has-led-to-conflict-between-hindus-and-muslims-in-uttarkashi-40048
Girl was attempted to be abducted, the other group blamed, violence ensued. The Summer is getting hot.
Hints of ROF… all it takes is inflation to inflame tensions and the humans quickly organize and rip into each other.
‘magine what this looks like if there is no food. It won’t be no kooombaya let me tell you… your formerly friendly neighbour with the 3 kids will kill you for a can of tuna.
Extermination … is necessary.
I know there are those who don’t want to go there… but let’s watch this again… it is … important
These lines came directly from the writers at the Ministry of Truth
Slovakia: The amount of surgeries waiting to be performed rises, but the hospitals perform less surgeries than before the pandemic.
https://hnonline.sk/slovensko/96088005-nemocnice-pred-sebou-kopia-desattisice-odlozenych-operacii-no-operuju-menej-ako-pred-pandemiou
How to say in Slovak – f789 off and die at home – we are not admitting anyone with a vax injury
The lack of the healthcare personnel accumulates the delays.
The ageing population needs more surgeries.
The amount of the population prone to the damage by the rising complexity of the treatments rises.
And the vac injured are clogging the hospitals. Feed – them – to – the – PIGS
hahahahahahahaha – maybe he can find a spot on the para-olympics tennis team?
Full body cramping is not uncommon at this stage in his career? Alcaraz is 20 years old. Do older players cramp less? The Independent’s fully-shotted staff is hard at work here. Let’s see if ESPN can describe the injury any better:
“I would say the first set and the second set was really, really intense, you know, and I started to cramp in my arm,” he said. “At the beginning of the third set, I started to cramp every part of my body, not only the legs. The arms, as well, every part of the legs. Well, it was really tough for me to move at the third set, and in the fourth set, let’s say I had a little chance, but it was really tough. You know, my full body [started] to cramp.”
As usual, though, a moment of introspection shined a beam of light of the truth briefly, as the shotted writer at The Independent mused:
‘It was jarring, however, to see Alcaraz suffering. His rapid ascent to the top of the game had come without displaying any serious weaknesses. He is already a grand slam champion and had already triumphed in marathon matches. His US Open victory last September came after defeating Jannik Sinner in five hours and 15 minutes in the quarter-finals, in a match that also featured long rallies and rarely dipped in its intensity.’
https://thechadrabbit.substack.com/p/novak-djokovic-wins-the-french-open
“Big Brother” star Lauren Harries in “induced coma” after seizure; London mayor Sadiq Khan left “barely conscious” by heart attack; Belarus’ Alexander Lukashenko collapsed, “bleeding from every pore”
https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/p/tv-presenters-anne-diamond-and-esther
hahahahahaha…. this is GRRRrreeeat! (and so are Frosted Flakes according to Tony the Tiger)
Happy to hear about Sadiq Khan.
I could only see this part in the email …TV presenters Anne Diamond & Esther Rantzen have…. I felt like a 5 yr old on Christmas morning as I tore the wrapping off to see what joy Santa had bestowed upon me…
And I was not let down!!!!
….lung cancer; TV presenter Sarah Beeny has breast cancer; actor Doug Cockle has prostate cancer; DJ Michael Bibi has lymphoma; Susan Boyle’s stroke
This is a f789ing Jack Pot of Rat Juice injuries!!! I am laughing and crying all at the same time….
Hopefully sometime soon this gets to the point where so many of them are f789ed that They are falling like flies… I yearn for them to have that moment where they realize … they poisoned themselves…
I still remember … being called out by a Vaxxer at a sports tournament… he scolded and lectured The Great Fast Eddy…. then there’s the two who informed The Great Fast Eddy that his facts and logic were irrelevant cuz ‘my mother is a doctor’…
The only way to win .. is if they suffer… I live to win
Ok – let’s read on https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/p/tv-presenters-anne-diamond-and-esther
While I’m glad these events appear to validate the theories Eddy, you may benefit from taking a step back to question celebrating cancer prognoses in people you don’t know.
Seems a bit mean-spirited? The only misanthropic people I know are deeply insecure.
Nah. F789 all Rat Juicers. They all wish the worst for the No Vaxxers… and now it’s come round and bit them in the ass hahaha
I enjoy their suffering — and FE – the Great One – is very secure thank you kindly.. but he is a misanthrope — it’s the only logical position
“You’ve got to make that decision yourself. It’s your choice. If you decide that you don’t want a vaccine or a booster, you can decide not to got to hospital however ill you get.”
Esther Rantzenmade her choice—a long-term tobacco smoker who took three jabs by the time of that interview—and I am more generous in spirit that she is; I would not seek to prevent her from receiving the very best medical treatment, even though she probably contributed to here condition through the choices she made.
Listen to Esther ranting on about preventing the unvaccinated from receiving NHS medical care, and then tell me it is mean-spirited to be uplifted on a rainy Monday morning by a little bit of schad at her health problems.
Would you go so far as to support feeding the rancid old hag’s half dead carcass… to the pigs.
And rather than clog up the ICUs around the world with these unclean Rat Juice injured MORE-ONS… shall we not – upon diagnosis – shove them down the chute that leads to a very large pigsty?
Sorry norm
I don’t see why the pigs should have to put up with spike-tainted meat. The RSPCA should step in to stop that sort of thing.
Or even on a perfect sunny morning in dear old Blighty.
‘My cup runneth over’ alright!
What a bitch!
And that sort of thing was being said in many countries about the un-vaccinated – ‘sod off and die!’ – quite spontaneously and without any demonic central co-ordination, of course…..
Esther is misanthropic. Esther is deeply insecure. I don’t think the two attributes necessarily belong together.
This interview wasn’t just an old lady venting bigoted narrow-minded opinions. This public appearance by a public person was part of a massive global psychological operation to coerce as many people as possible to allow themselves to be injected with poisonous bioweapons.
In a just world, what should be done with Esther and the rest of the celebrities, talking heads, journalists, politicians, doctors, civil servants and busybodies who promoted these bioweapons and pushed, nagged, guilt-tripped, shamed, deceived and forced people—including children, babies and pregnant women—into accepting these poisons into their bodies?
Move on? Forgive and forget? Let bygones be bygones? Don’t make a fuss? And above all, don’t be mean-spirited?
Take this moment to celebrate her Vax Injury — then forget about her and move onto the next Celeb Vax Injury.
I’m keeping an eye on Joy Behar, hostess of the View, who is off sick again at the moment for at least the third time over the past couple of years.
She previously took time off in July and in October 2022 and again in April this year.
And then there is her sidekick, Whoopi Goldberg, who has also had serial bouts of viral illness of late.
Both are multi-jabbed and have aggressively promoted the injections, and both are arguably physically and cognitively injured.
Everyone should put a bottle of bubbly in the chiller … in anticipation
How about Colbert…how good would that be!
Just came across research, that the most common tree in Europe 5000 years ago was the hazelnut. Some open questions concerning H&G are being answered. For sure, H&G did not plant them?
A nourishment base on hazel nuts, meat, fish, herbs and dairy would be considered today a Keto diet. A Keto diet leads to a large supply of beta-Hydroxybutyric acid, which is needed for the Gaba and dopamin cycles. On a Keto diet, people feel relaxed, awake, balanced and open to socialize.
While 12.000 years ago the Neolithic Revolution started to provide grains in the Middle east, the victory of the sugar beet started with modern steel production. It’s remnants are a good fertilizer for sugar beet. Sugar raises insuline, fat does not. Whole grains do much less (Low carb). The Asian cultures, I guess, were mainly based on a vegetarian diet? Did Turchin analyse also the old Asian societies?
To the point: Could the nourishment affect human ability to react on (self-produced) cataclysms?
Well, there’s an old saying that you are what you eat. There is also the point that humans have enough flexibility built into the genome that they can evolve to do well on a broad range of diets. A thousand years is about fifty generations, and this is enough reshuffling to weed out those who are genetically unsuited to survive on a given diet. Or so the story goes.
Most East Asian and South Asian people, for example, have had two or three thousand years subsisting on rice as their main staple—although it would have been unmilled “brown” rice, which has a lower glycemic index than the refined “white” stuff and contains plenty of B vitamins. So they are fairly healthy on a rice-centered diet. Polynesians have had maybe a thousand years on a restricted diet centered on taro and fish, Eskimos have lived mainly on fish and sea mammals, and the Scots, famously, on oats.
Humans are not specialized to exist on only one type of food to the extent that Giant Pandas of China or the Koalas of Australia or the Marine Iguanas of the Galapagos are.
Could the type of nourishment humans have affect their ability to react to cataclysms?
Possibly, but I suppose that as a hypothesis it would difficult to test for. There are other major factors that influence human ability to react, such as the quality of their cultural life, their social organization, and their technological infrastructure; and not all cataclysms are equal.
Hazel nut and Oak/acorns……I encourage their wild propagation on what ever land I have influence on. In my region when the elk herds were enormous the hazel and oak combination was everywhere.
Hopefully, as the field agriculture collapses those species will expand on all well drained soil types.
Let us not forget the majestic Chestnut.
“We have come from God, and inevitably the myths woven by us, though they contain error, will also reflect a splintered fragment of the true light, the eternal truth that is with God. Indeed only by myth-making, only by becoming ‘sub-creator’ and inventing stories, can Man aspire to the state of perfection that he knew before the Fall. Our myths may be misguided, but they steer however shakily towards the true harbour, while materialistic ‘progress’ leads only to a yawning abyss and the Iron Crown of the power of evil.” Tolkien
and RIP, uncle Ted.
I came across an entertaining post about Trump’s arrest and made the mistake of bringing up the topic of resource depletion. There really are some stupid bastards kicking around. “Ingenuity will take care over everything. We can create own resources.” I tried Eddy’s line about “Would we be steaming oil out of sand if there were good deposits left?” to no avail. It’s all quite disappointing.
https://blog.reaction.la/party-politics/a-retraction/
ivan,
Starship is the best hope, the stuff is all over the solar system and pollution is not an issue.
We are not going to solve today’s problems with yesterday’s solutions.
TINA
Dennis L.
Dennis, I think it was Norman that made the point to you recently when you brought up the cornucopia offered by Starship that all that “stuff” floating out there in space is only available to the economy if there’s usable energy down on Earth to turn it into products.
It was a point well made that you seem to have glossed over. It remains true though. The energy “out there” is dissipating out in all directions, while the energy down here in the form of hydrocarbons is conveniently concentrated for us, both physically and in energy content. It’s quality and quantity also declines each day.
There isn’t a damn thing Starship can do to solve the thermodynamic issues for wider civilisation, but I’ll admit it’s an inspiring side project.
VFF,
Move the “stuff” which needs to be refined sufficiently close to the sun and fusion resulting in radiation solves that issue. If need be, place smelters on Venus or indeed Mercury.
We are going to need solutions, there is plenty of stuff in the universe and the solar system is a good place to start. Low entropy was literally dropped on earth in for example NI in Sudbury.
Dennis L.
Why even bother Ivanislav? It is acceptable to preach with family members and close friends, but the population has to decline. I do no want to change these people and neither should you. The idea that all would go well if only we could re-elect Trump, seemingly dominant in that blog, can only lead to positive outcomes for the world. And I want them to go where their brains take them.
I wouldn’t really say that I’m interested in changing minds, I was just disappointed at the degree to which the responses were thoughtless knee-jerk reactions. I stated a few facts and will leave it at that.
There is no good solution remaining, yet they still imagine a recovery for the country and that’s fine. Time will tell.
ivan,
Respectfully, we don’t know there are no good solutions; my hypothesis is we explore the fabric of the universe, discover how it works, we do not determine our destiny by human intent. Perhaps this is the problem society currently is having, it wants to self determine many things.
Dennis L.
“And I want them to go where their brains take them.”
Precisely. Natural Law will have its way soon. We should not just accept that, but find quiet comfort in it, without wallowing in misanthropic degeneracy. It’s a big selection bottleneck that few will pass through. Gonna be an amazing journey to try though, and we should be enormously grateful to live on such blessed times.
We have likely just entered the final “half” of FF energy extraction, so 25 years plus or minus until the population will imeviably overshoot in the reverse direction, to under pre industrial levels. Prepare accordingly..
25 years! We should be so lucky! Where is daveinamonthorayearoraday!? BAU PARTY TIME.
The system itself won’t last another 25 years. Real wages are not rising to meet inflation at all, which is unprecented, at least for this period of time.
This is the first major sign of thermodynamic limits. The system will try to stagger forwards but the divergence between inflation and real wages will continue unabated, until we quite literally have revolutions occur in Europe. By my reckoning, around 2026- by that time the rate of change since 2020 will have resulted in about a 15% decrease in living standards within the space of 5 years.
I wasn’t explicit enough it seems. I wasn’t at all saying the system will last 25 years, let alone BAU. As I said – within 25 years the population will be at well below pre industrial levels, perhaps a few hundred million hardy souls.
The last half / final doubling gives us a rough time frame of 25 years until most of the world (Russia could well be an exception though) looks anything from Mad Max to an Electric Middle Ages (pre 12th C.) mixed in with salvage economies, slave economies etc.
Personally I think the Net Energy Hubbert Curve is a nice approximation , as I believe the slope will be very steep indeed, much as Gail’s chart suggests. Norman’s observations re the “Wars of Denial” and their impacts are also pertinent.
Us Energy Cliff / Blip prophets might well become Collapse Priests in the emergent proletariat Living Religion as the new metaphysics take shape (refer Chad Haag et al).
a salvage economy, other that at a very rudimentary level, isn’t possible
a junked car, say, might have a ton of steel in it, but to re purpose that steel requires a furnace.
a metals furnace requires charcoal, which requires trees
which takes us back to the metal smelting problems of the 1700s
also……….not possible to have electric anything without precision engineering and machine tools
“By my reckoning, around 2026- by that time the rate of change since 2020 will have resulted in about a 15% decrease in living standards within the space of 5 years.”
that sounds like it could happen approximately.
though I doubt 15% down will result in revolutions.
but more rioting than 2023 for sure.
actually, only 15% down by 2026 sounds quite excellent to me, that rate should keep the bAU in The Core humming along for most, at least most in The Inner Core.
so, 25 more years is quite abbsurd but…
12.5 more years of bAU, for sure, a certainty, guaranteed 😉
RationalLuddite , replace the Hubbert curve with a Cantrell curve is better . Copy/paste from POB .
JT
IGNORED
06/10/2023 at 11:33 pm
The backside of the Hubert curve is no longer a realistic projection. Hubert developed his curve during a period of progressive growth globally. Technical enhancement of aging oil fields lead to fast rates of decline as was experienced in the Cantarell field. Shale has developed a similar world decline scenario. Hubert modeled very conventional land based basins that were easy to access and maintain and add strippers to. Very different and not as meaningful for today’s oil production. Use the Cantarell curve instead
@Luddite,
This must all be a simulation, it’s too interesting to be random.
I’ve gotten to experience the rise of computer technology and the tail end of the oil age and now have a chance to try to survive a population bottleneck and whatever electro-steam-punk fallen civilization you imagine.
It’s pretty rad, apart from the suffering.
@David
15% might not seem too drastic, but from the perspective of the socioeconomic groups most likely to conduct strikes, protests, and revolutions, that figure is huge. And if that group feels powerless and disenfranchised and industrial action picks up steam, it could grind countries to a halt in a positive feedback loop.
Similarly we need to encourage the MORE-ONS to inject the Rat Juice…
Perhaps the Elders have worked out the challenge of BAU Lite… and they have a target population for it to work…
We need to ensure as many MORE-ONS inject… even if they are friends and family…
It’s a good time to be selfish.
If that troubles anyone … just remember… they had a choice… they chose stooopidity.
F789 ’em.
drb,
“And I want them to go where their brains take them.”
This assumes free will, perhaps where we are in the fabric of the universe determines where we go; corollary, we are along for the ride.
Dennis L.
Indeed. Just let go of your last tenuous, tattered, remaining hopes for mankind and enjoy the liberation of despair, the Dark Illumination!
“the liberation of despair”
“the Dark Illumination”
“last tenuous, tattered, remaining hopes”
Does this reflect on Xabier, Cambridge, or England? Or simply a clear observation on where we are?
Maybe Oxford is a happier place? Maybe a bucolic country town? Maybe some where warm and sunny?
I just rather like the sound of ‘Dark Illumination’, and it is susceptible to many interpretations and shades of meaning.
But I can reassure you, Ed, I go tripping along these days to my wood-cutting or sketching the landscapes and the wide skies of this rather flat region of England with a song in my heart and a (out-of-tune) whistle on my lips.
And so does everyone else. Cambridge is humming along: the motorways roar as in 2019, the University erects yet more hideous buildings to accommodate yet more Chinese students paying massive rip-off fees; retail occupancy is high; and people are all busy excitedly planning their next foreign holiday or home extension as if 2020-22 just didn’t happen.
The Anglo-Saxon poem ‘The Wanderer’ (several versions on YT) sums up my feelings (apart from the righteous desire for revenge against the mass-murderers) at this juncture:
‘Everything in this world is on loan: wealth, power, life itself; and the only certain security is in God’.
Or ‘Beowulf’, our great pre-Christian ancestral epic poem:
‘Fate will be as Fate will be’. (the Seamus Heaney translation – the best one so far).
As for the merits of Cambridge v Oxford, they have both sold their souls to the great god Tech-Bio-Mammon, but the old song did say:
‘Oxford, upstairs, drinking beer!
Cambridge, downstairs, feeling queer!’
(The Victorian meaning of ‘queer’, of course).
Again! If you talk to these people they think that the U.S has massive amounts of oil! And they have 50 years before they need to worry! If I elect dipshit “blah blah” then problem solved! The u.S imports oil!!!
They think what bbccnn tell them to think…
We have enough oil to last till 2050 at least… and we will have transitioned to renewables and EVs long before that.
They are not worried.
They continue to produce for the farmers.
I on the other hand… reduced production 10+ years ago … the farmers don’t like that
Eddy, Trump has told us we will be the largest oil exporter in the world once he is president.
Trump is going out full tilt on pharma to give him leverage over Kennedy.
Trump is going for balanced tariffs. What we really need is balanced trade as suggested by John Maynard Keynes at Bretton Woods in 1944. His idea of punitive taxes to force balanced trade was rejected.
balanced trade requires ‘profits’ from a capitalist system.
Trade requires profits for the traders. (otherwise there’s no point in doing it)
but capilalism can only function if production is increased year on year
you can only have a year on year production increase on a planet with inflinite resources.
(Get back to me when you’ve figured that out)
Good way of putting the problem!
But keep in mind … if the herd was not MORE-ONIC and got the scent of deep depletion in their nostrils… they’d go on a mad rampage..
Thank the heavens for the excellent PR team that has masked the smell of death … with Raspberry scented hopium!!!
>> Thank the heavens for the excellent PR team
There may be something to this.
I’m not so sure they’d rampage,if they were to grasp the reality: more likely drink and drug themselves to death.
Now, if all the supermarkets were suddenly bare, we’d see short-lived raging violence then, no doubt.
Anyway, no one has a clue: and – as we both know – comments about the energy crisis sink without trace on Substack etc.
People cannot be woken up, and that’s quite a desirable situation if we are being realistic.
True. And super fent… they get depressed when they realize the party is ending
Population Decline Will Change the World for the Better
A future with fewer people offers increased opportunity and a healthier environment
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/population-decline-will-change-the-world-for-the-better/
Everything is for the better, according to Main Stream Media. Post collapse in the past, I agree that employment opportunities were better. But a lot of folks didn’t make the transition.
People are an incredible achievement but the universe has the 80/20 rule; perhaps this is the best that can be done. In my youth we were taught God works in mysterious ways.
Man thinks he has free will, sometimes but only with incredible effort. The painful part is to find a place where one fits not try and fit in where one does not. That effort makes one the odd man out and it is always a group.
Dennis L.
I am afraid, with a larger systemic change most abilities educated today will not be needed!
If norm can survive the boosters he’ll be tapped as the next Rayburn CEO.
The usual commentary applies.
The UKR offensive is a massive flop show.
Russia daily attrites UKR, which suffers massive losses of manpower and equipment.
UKR is incapable of any ‘big manoeuvre counteroffensive’ and it is bound to lose the attrition war.
Tick, tock.
(Pressed for time today.)
Putin’s ‘Leopard’ Pledge Becomes Reality; Russia Bombs German Tanks in Zaporizhzhia | Watch
Time for NATO to put up or shut up. Poland can keep the stupid-Pole jokes alive for another generation if they jump into the breach. They can be the new “6-million”, right after the Ukrainians.
The tanks seemed to be amazingly easily burned. Didn’t anyone think of that?
Good time to buy stock in the tank manufacturing companies.
Thousands of young men’s lives ended or ruined, and hundreds of pieces of sophisticated NATO weapon systems reduced to cinders. From this, they have captured a single village.
The UKR adminstration are already making a big thing of this grand ‘operational success’. They have in fact sent soldiers to pose with a flag in said village. I just find it an utter insult to the memory of the poor b*stards they swifted into the Russian defence lines.
This turkey shoot will have massive consequences by the way, beyond Ukraine- what is effectively happening is the demilitarisation of NATO. Sovereign military equipment and strategic ammunition stocks have been sent to this war with almost no cap, to the point where the United States’ new $2.1 billion gift of equipment has to be MANUFACTURED before being sent over. In other words, NATO is completely out of any deterrent.
I wouldn’t at all be surprised if Russia decides to waltz all the way to Brussels in a few years- there’d be very little to stop them.
No doubt, Europeans would line the streets cheering their Russian liberators and showering them with flowers, much as they once did Napoleon and that chap with the tiny mustache.
Many would do just that in the UK, disgust with the political class and monarchy (I won’t say the ruling caste, as we know they lurk in the shadows) is high.
When the Tsar visited London in 1814 he was greatly admired; time for a re-run?
(Financial Times)
”BioNTech faces hundreds of German compensation claims for Covid-19 jab
Pharmaceuticals producer in first court hearing on Monday”
https://archive.is/9o0ys
https://www.ft.com/content/9b4e8497-65ad-4cbc-81d7-3ef7c9d322cb
From the article:
”BioNTech is facing a barrage of compensation claims in Germany brought by two law firms that allege their clients suffered lasting health damage from the company’s coronavirus vaccine.
[…] The challenge, in a regional court in Hamburg, is one of several hundred claims for compensation of up to €1mn being pursued by the two law firms.
[…] Peer-reviewed studies have shown that side effects of Covid-19 vaccinations are rare but do exist, including four types of neurological complications (1) and an inflation of the heart known as myocarditis.
[…] A verdict against BioNTech would likely have limited direct financial damage on the company because of an EU legal shield that largely protected vaccine makers from legal liability if they caused unforeseen side effects, leaving national governments on the hook instead.
[…] Still, the company has had to expand its use of extra law firms to deal with the increased caseload.”
https://archive.is/9o0ys
https://www.ft.com/content/9b4e8497-65ad-4cbc-81d7-3ef7c9d322cb
(1) Neurological complications:
”Scientists link Covid vaccines to rare neurological complications
Study finds Pfizer and Oxford/AstraZeneca jabs have infrequent association with seven illnesses”
https://archive.is/WKCxJ
the seven illnesses reported in this second article:
– Guillain-Barré
– Encephalitis meningitis
– Myelitis
– Inflammations of the brain (is it linked to the often reported ‘prion disease’?)
– Inflammations of spinal cord
– Haemorrhagic stroke
– Blood-clotting
They all sound frightening — particularly if one is Rat Juiced hahahahaha
They deserve it — I totally support Big Pharma’s immunity from prosecution
I expect the obstacles to getting adequate compensation will remain high. No one wants to admit that many severe injuries could have taken place.
There’s too much money to be made in medicine, especially big pharma, for politicians and lawyers to ever kill the pharma golden goose. The same way for the military industrial complex. Too much money to be
extracted and transferred from the productive middle class to the parasitic elites to ever bring about change through politically correct methods like “peacefully protesting,” voting, or showing up at town hall meetings, etc. The elites are just snickering at us chumps.
Carlin said it best in his oration for the ages: “They have elections to make you think you have choice. You don’t. You have owners.”
Only when the bullets start flying domestically, as our Founding Fathers had anticipated and provisioned for with the 2A, can change for the better occur, hopefully for the better under the circumstances of energy scarcity, overpopulation, and debt, although often what follows may be even worse, as Robespierre and Stalin demonstrated.
The Vaxxers are so Stooopid (how stooopid are they Fast???)
They are so Stooopid … that even if they knew they could each get a $10M settlement for their injuries — they’d not participate in a class action suit — cuz that would cause vaccine hesitancy
hahahahahahaha… now THAT… is really really f789ing stoooopid — dontcha think 🙂
Thank you for the excerpt!
you are welcome
Yes, thanks Student for ALL your interesting posts.
(Jerusalem Post)
”Freight train derails near Russia’s border with Ukraine – governor.
Attacks on infrastructure have become a tool in the war between Russia and Ukraine.
[…]
Ukraine almost never publicly claims responsibility for attacks inside Russia or on Russian-controlled territory in Ukraine.”
https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-745884
When we think this war has to come to an end, the participants figure out new ways to fight it.
Individualism and liberty had its days, but resource depletion is ending these good days and humankind will return to its natural state.
About the debate on landowneres, Karl Wittfogel, who studied Asian Civilization for years, wrote “Hydraulic Civilization” and he said the necessity of maintaining heavy irrigation to enable farming in Asia necessitated empires, and also made everything static, with every year the same as the year before , every century the same as the one before and so on.
The Western civilization is an anomaly, preserved because the Mongol khans had a habit of dying at the most critical moments possible. Without Khan Ogedei(Ugudei, etc – there are a gazillion ways to write Mongol names around that time) didn’t croak just after Gen. Subutai eliminated the armies of Holy Roman Empire in Liegnitz, Germany (I don’t care whatever the Poles choose to call it – no Poles were harmed in that battle although they think they accomplished something there), the Mongols would have cleaned up Western Europe, with whatever survivors fleeing to what would have been North America.
Unfortunately the good times are over, and with dwindling resource the Eastern despots are making a return with a vengeance. Putin is not a young man and will be followed by a real Eastern despot, and so on. No innovation or advances likely – they will just try to hold on to whatever they have now.
Unfortunately the mongols , like all central Asian massed horse raiders, would always falter at the eastern edges of Europe. This is not from lack of trying. Since they travelled fast within huge herds of horses, changing ,mounts throughout the day, they were seriously mobile. But mountain chains and absence of grassland removed this advantage and turned them into simple herders looking for pasture.
A further west and central European bio climatic factor was the presence of air borne moisture, not much present on the steppe in fighting season.This really messed up the recurve bows and bow strings, wrecking their accuracy. West European longbow men had the range ,,and accuracy and familiarity with mud and rain.
Interestingly the East Roman Empire developed strategies for dealing with a constant conveyor belt of massed horse raiders, it wasn’t worth hitting one group with your economic might and taking it out , only to be met with another load of super mobile warriors half a generation later. No, like British Empire later, it used a highly refined diplomatic corp to address the threats, with the name Byzantine becoming synonymous with convoluted dealings.
So no , the khans horses would have ended up stuck in the Thuringen wald mud, flattened by heavy archery and yearning for the prairie.
The Mongols had probably reached their natural limits, given the technology and means of mobility at their command.
It would have been interesting to see what would have happened if the Mongol papa didn’t die when they were at the gates — and all raced home to put dibs on the throne
Could have been an epic cage match. But perhaps the simulation did not want that
Kind like how you can never know if Ali would have beat Tyson.
Thanks for confirming that my mate with Turbo Cancer took a 5th jab — which caused him to then compound his woes with a heart attack.
Which they then blamed on the chemo – even though one can quickly search and find out that chemo can harm the heart but does not cause heart attacks
I betcha – if he survives long enough – he’ll take the 6th shot … and that will end him
I can’t warn him .. oh no no no how dare I do that –he’d be very angry with me.
Let dying dogs die
Sydney has 5M people? And this is all that turned up? https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/79794
Makes one wonder if that’s not orchestrated – ya some people got injured… a couple of dozen…
Immigrant Cage Matches – bring it https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/79792
The article is well-researched and is based on interviews with scientists, intelligence officers, and primary investigators.
The Sunday Times has reviewed hundreds of documents, including previously confidential reports, internal memos, scientific papers and email correspondence that has been obtained through sources or by freedom of information campaigners in the three years since the pandemic started. We also interviewed the US State Department investigators — including experts on China, emerging pandemic threats, and biowarfare — who conducted the first significant US inquiry into the origins of the Covid-19 outbreak.
Covid-19 was a product of bioweapon and vaccine research:
One of the reasons there is no published information on such work, according to all three investigators, is because the shadow project on the mine viruses at the Wuhan institute was being funded by the Chinese military.
The State Department investigators wrote in their report: “Despite presenting itself as a civilian institution, the United States has determined that the Wuhan Institute of Virology has collaborated on publications and secret projects with China’s military. The Wuhan Institute of Virology has engaged in classified research, including laboratory animal experiments, on behalf of the Chinese military since at least 2017.”
My view is that the reason Mojiang was covered up was due to military secrecy related to [the army’s] pursuit of dual use capabilities in virological biological weapons and vaccines.
A vaccine to shift power
The investigators believe the Chinese military had taken an interest in developing a vaccine for the viruses so they could be used as potential bioweapons. If a country could inoculate its population against its own secret virus, it might have a weapon to shift the balance of world power.
https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/so-covid-19-is-a-bioweapon-after
Keep in mind the MSM is reporting … and we know the MSM exists to tell people like norm what to think
I suspect so: yet more propaganda.
The China narrative distracts from the obvious truth that the states – outside China – above all the old industrialised, consumerist, resource-depleted, countries – have turned against their own populations since late 2019.
We are supposed to believe that the great struggle is between the ‘free, open and progressive (tranny!)democracies’ and a newly-militaristic, expansionist and devious China (and an evil Russia under the ‘despot Putin’).
No mention of resource degradation, the energy cliff, the collapsing financial racket and over-population as in any way connected to the sudden appearance of the Age of the Novel Virus…….
Just a moral/geo-political discourse as if fundamentals are not going as badly awry as we here know they are – all too well.
It also sets the stage for declaring the next ‘pandemic’, which is clearly in the pipeline, to be a deliberate ‘bio-attack’ originating in China – ‘they want world domination!’ – or by some other bad actor.
They can’t really run the bat fraud again (although our dear Norman would fall for it , he’s great swallower of propaganda however implausible).
It must be hard on the MORE-ONS… trying to decide who their villain is… some will choose Trump .. some Biden .. some Putin .. some Xi… some despise oil..
It was really a self-organized system at work that included many militaries from around the world, plus many medical researchers, plus Moderna. The US congress voted to fund this research. There are too many organizations and people who were part of this to explain to any reasonable group.
It’s 6am ish … we’re in high country … the sun is starting to peek from the horizon … there be 4 deer — 250 yards away.. they are grazing … totally unaware that the scope of the high powered rifle has locked on to one of them — the one with the trophy antlers… he’s in the Kill Box….
Safety off – if you pull the trigger now it will go Boom.
We’re in the Kill Box now.
Almost everyone is grazing…100% unaware.
We have cattle grazing in the centre of town here: people love seeing them, have their photos taken with them, etc.
I find myself thinking:
‘Two completely unaware prey species, both destined – soon – for the same fate’.
Ignorance is bliss, whether you eat grass or hamburgers!
when cows eat other cows they get BSE. i wonder what happens when individual species members inject into their body non-self, species-same material? it’s probably something fun.
The elephant in the room is, why should US military hand over secret knowledge about biowapon production – long after the Pacific era had been proclaimed?
Heart Failure Deaths in May Hit 44% Higher Than Pre-Pandemic. Why is Government Refusing to Investigate?
https://dailysceptic.org/2023/06/10/heart-failure-deaths-in-may-hit-44-higher-than-pre-pandemic-why-is-government-refusing-to-investigate/
Vax Cancer vs Vax Heart Failure – which do you enjoy reading about more?
For me … it’s cancer
“85 to 90.000 excess deaths of Alzheimer’s disease ” A prion disease. ?
https://rumble.com/v28wwqy-dr.-fleming-gain-of-function-should-be-our-focus-cancer-and-other-treatment.html
40:00 in.
Imagine being norm … listening to that … and remaining unconcerned.
Cuz it’s safe and effective
hahahahaha gawd
Here is what national corporate radio is posting…I mean npr
https://www.npr.org/2023/06/09/1179415899/oil-production-gas-prices-opec-climate-change-permian-basin-texas
Tons of oil in the u.S and great profits! Even at $61 dollars!! Please Gail focus on refuting the oil profits…
Yes, this kind of article is a problem. They obviously don’t have all of the pieces. Why are oil companies cutting back drilling rigs, if everything is so profitable?
It says so in the article: to flatten the boom bust cycle.
The financiers have more control & can smite the oil companies appetite.
It’ll lengthen the Permian life.
I think a lot of people on this site see oil depletion short term disastrous just like investors thought a generation ago.
TPTB is dampening the global economy. Energy crunch is going to be long and dragged out.
Maybe it’s better to focus on per capita energy use.
It is a really interesting study of how “they” use subtle programming to influence people. I looked up the writer and she has very little experience of the oil fields. But the meme she is presenting is very different from the past. The oil companies are the boogeymen making money hand over fist and don’t want to change their behavior to fit the narrative. If only that was right 😕.
This is the only lie norm sees through… everything else… he gets played
Seeing through this makes him feel rather clever and astute: seeing the rest would scare him to death – understandable really.
I suspect Madame Fast has picked up the stench of imminent extinction… over a ridiculously inflated dinner last night at the Italian restaurant where there previously was no way a table could be had during prime time without booking a week in advance (we won’t be going back cuz at those prices it needs to be great and it ain’t that – seems others are not willing to pay that either now —-next time it will be the pizza truck) she was questioning why she is busting her ass at work — and that we might want to consider a month+ trip…. then return and take on a job with less responsibility.
Vax injured driver https://t.me/leaklive/14639
COVID-19 Vaccines Have Caused 86% of All Deaths Recorded in VAERS for the Past 32 Years
Of the 45,237 Deaths recorded due to vaccination
38,693 of these Deaths were due to Covid ‘Vaccines’
Since the emergency use authorization of the COVID-19 vaccines in December of 2020, through the latest update of the VAERS database on May 19th, 2023, 86% of all deaths reported after vaccination for the past 31+ years have been reported following COVID-19 vaccines (SOURCE) (https://medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?TABLE=ON&GROUP1=VAX&TSORT=down&EVENTS=ON&PERPAGE=100&DIED=Yes)
~ Pfizer takes the no.1 Spot
READ MORE HERE (https://healthimpactnews.com/2022/covid-19-vaccines-have-caused-84-of-all-deaths-recorded-in-vaers-for-the-past-32-years-pfizer-1-in-vaccine-deaths-even-before-covid/)
yes – here’s a fake war to distract you from the real story (UEP) https://t.me/EdwardDowdReal/168
“Gail Tverberg says:
June 4, 2023 at 6:09 pm
The bottom 90% represent the workers of the world, unfortunately. Getting along without them would be difficult. Who would mine the minerals of the world? Who would pick up the trash? Who would pick the crops that need to be picked?”
https://ourfiniteworld.com/2023/06/02/models-hide-the-shortcomings-of-wind-and-solar/comment-page-2/#comments
That is Gail responding to my argument that massive death won’t cause a dent in civilization.
However, there is something called corvee. Invented by the French during the middle ages.
The survivors will fight for power and some factions will win. The others will quickly learn how to do manual labor.
You are wrong Klum…you don’t understand complexity. Nor do you understand how angry the peasants are going to be. You have built your sandcastle theory right where the tide comes in. I guess it is because you are afraid and trying to convince yourself otherwise
Excellent https://odysee.com/@HealthImpactNews:1/Trump-and-Biden-No-Difference:0?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
But she’s not quite there… (or she may simply be playing a role to ensure nobody gets wind of the true intent)
https://sagehana.substack.com/p/5d-monster-chess-black-pill-is-the
It’s fun inserting energy-related comments on Substack – as FE has been doing for ages now – but almost one engages. A very few do see how it provides an over-arching rationale for the events since late 2019.
Who wants to see the elephant in the room when it has just raised its foot to stomp you?
We are meant to believe that the psychos started poisoning people with vaxxes because they had to cover up financial fraud, wanted to make even more money and have still more power, or just go to a higher stage of psycho for fun? Ridiculous.
Two of NE’s least popular posts… and he’s not even touched on the theory that this is extermination …
Nobody wants the truth. Sometimes that is a good thing
https://nakedemperor.substack.com/p/the-everything-bubble-the-end-of
https://nakedemperor.substack.com/p/of-theory-and-practice-in-search
CDC confirms COVID Vaccination increases risk of Autoimmune Heart Disease by 13,200%
Center for Disease Crimes selectively releases studies while simultaneously covering up its PSYOP-19 malfeasance.
https://www.2ndsmartestguyintheworld.com/p/cdc-confirms-covid-vaccination-increases
come on man – just take the f-ing boosters!
is this the same stuff you use in your window wiper reservoir during winter?
https://palexander.substack.com/p/is-there-ressearch-showing-the-deadliness
Epic mental illness https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/79775
Why not just take super fent – I would
Mass D https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/california-advances-bill-help-shoplifters-steal
One hundred and four children under 6 years old suffered a seizure within 42 days of a COVID-19 shot, researchers with the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and other institutions found.
Others suffered strokes, blood clotting disorders, and appendicitis, the researchers said.
They analyzed health records from the Vaccine Safety Datalink, a CDC-funded network that features sites operated by Kaiser Permanente, Marshfield Clinic, Health Partners, and Denver Health.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/more-100-young-children-suffered-seizures-after-covid-vaccination-study
Reveals 30 Year Swedish Study That Found Girls Spines Don’t Fuse When They Take Puberty Blockers. “They Won’t Live Past 30.”
https://celiafarber.substack.com/p/trans-man-blasts-trans-inc-says-it
If you expect there to be a future… you do not do stuff like this
evolution in action
The university has more trannies each year (I’m beginning to suspect they get preferential entry now): apart from the entry-level beefy blokes in dresses with dangly ear-rings, , the ones who are trying to look very feminine look on the whole rather sad and unhealthy – something of an air of being mentally ill. I’ve noticed too that they never have any normal women as friends. It’s all a fraud, and grotesque.
The townies are not hunting the trannies?
Cage Match PPView
Illegal Immigrants vs the Trannies.
How can we make this happen – where’s Don King?
This is a tolerant place: I think the ‘oppression’ of trans people is all made up.
Most react with indifference or disgust, but the best approach is not to give them the attention they clearly seek.
Most react with indifference or disgust, but the best approach is not to give them the attention they clearly seek./////
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very useful advice
Those who feel oppressed are much more likely to receive cosmetic surgery to camouflage their sexual appearance. After all “they” know the entire world is oppressing “them” and “they” don’t want to be affiliated with it at all. “They” manifest that affliction into identity because, I guess life can seem quite scary, empty & futile so why not defy all convention and believe that some oppressive force formed you in the wrong way. The world does seem to be in peril. I feel some pity for those subjugated by this obvious virus but it all seems to be an end product of a culture that rewards the better liars.
They always knew that the LNPs platform (mRNA technology payload also) was dangerous: “Pro-inflammatory concerns with lipid nanoparticles”; they knew it was dangerous to reproductive system, so why?
Why did they bring this dangerous vaccine, the mRNA technology payload, this LNP platform that was so potentially dangerous & why did they at least not test it? Why did Pfizer & Moderna & FDA harm us?
https://palexander.substack.com/p/they-always-knew-that-the-lnps-platform
https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F08f83b72-4e75-487e-a96e-0b195b12bc3e_1920x1020.png
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This weeks hysterics by the media would be hilarious if it wasn’t so pathetic. It would take about a minute and a half to fill a 3 ring binder with the “we’re in the final days!!!!” screams by the corporate media, political talking heads & virtue signaling actors & influencers over the past 7 years. They’ve taken the boy that cried wolf and turned it up to 11. What a shitshow…..
Rosemary B
Writes Rosemary’s Substack
7 hr ago
shit show.
we are living in a shit show
https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/wildfires-bad-policy-is-ensuring/comments
Exactly!!! Prepping us for extermination. Most people will welcome it. Who would want to go on living in this hellscape… Super Fent for all.
See the graphs — or be a MORE-ON and don’t look
https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/wildfires-bad-policy-is-ensuring
Rosemary?
I had a small chunk of bread tonight with rosemary and sea salt cooked in from the supermarket, and immediately suspected that it is mildly psychoactive with a shift in what think of as the aesthetics or feel of the surrounding environment – subtle but exquisite, with a sense of regaining a familiar sense. I have used mixed herbs in past cooking.
There a lot of articles, and it seems to affect some cannabinoid receptors among other stuff.
Maybe one to play with.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/your-brain-on-food/202303/a-chemical-in-cannabis-and-rosemary-can-reduce-food-cravings
http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/20120127011944data_trunc_sys.shtml
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/herbsmxf/mild-psychoactive-property-s-of-rosemary-oil-t11021021.html
Dinner with a beautiful woman can do that to a guy.
Sure, a real man has bloody steak and then does her on the restaurant table in front of everyone….
i can see you have a well-practised seduction techniques
almost up to eddy’s standard i think
Somehow … I can’t picture norm ever having been a Smooth Operator.
your lack of imagination has been made obvious over the years eddy
so no
picturing anything in that respect will be beyond you.—-too obsessed with self i think.
still—you are good with numbers, so that’s something i suppose—rather like painting by numbers—you wield a brush and kid yourself you know what you’re doing
all adds up to a fake
which. after all—is your favourite activity
is is not?
Ain’t nuthin fake bout FE norm.
Do you think it’s ok to shower with your daughter norm? Did you do that?
“… mildly psychoactive…”
well, the 3 misworded spots in your sentences might be a good indicator that this is true.
Can’t one get high on nutmeg, too?
Stay on the good stuff, Mirror!
I’m a medical herbalist.
Rosemary increases blood flow to the brain. We give it for brain fog and to increase concentration.
Should I be grinding it up into powder … and snorting this (in the VIP room)
To borrow from FE’s unique style of commenting: Hahahaha! This is so funny!
https://www.bitchute.com/video/wfbnsXsoGM6X/
World’s Stupidest Species
The birds do not sing faster,
the trees do not grow quicker,
the snails do not accelerate to the jet plane speeds.
It is only the humans went mad…
And they insisted they were smart… superior.
Dummmmb does not even begin to describe how completely f789ed up humans are.
Smart. hahahahaha
And you know what — most of them would want to slit my throat for stating that truth. Or they would think I have gone insane
Looking forward to the extinction – I will be blowing kisses to the dying zombies laying on the ground in the hospital parking lot
When the nature experiences winter, i.e. the energy decline, it rests, sleeps, switches into dormancy mode.
When the humans experience energy decline, they accelerate.
They are really stupid.
Animals have no idea of a Golden Age ahead if only they put effort into it, or having the ‘right’ to live as they please regardless of time and circumstances.
Yes, utterly stupid of us. Different in the past, of course.
Ted Kaczynski just passed.
Did you take a picture?
I’m sorry that he didn’t live to see either the singularity or collapse.
Tucker on Twitter….
> Tucker Carlson EXPOSES Ukraine Kakhovka Dam Lies
Ted Kaczynski has died in his prison cell … June 10, 2023.
Confirmed this time unfortunately.
He was right, if course, about the essentials.
Rest on Peace Uncle Ted …
I totally concur with the spirit of your post.
I remember his manifesto being the first thing I printed out on my first computer and printer.
And everyone calling the pictures my memorable little cabin I lived in Pownal, Vermont during my senior year of college the Ted Kucynski cabin.
Because we are all righteous smug hypocrites….although not to the levels of Gore and Greta.
https://rumble.com/v2421cs-inside-the-congo-cobalt-mines-that-exploit-children.html
Ted’s gonna have the last laugh…. UEP solves everything
Uncle Ted’s spirit will be allowed to escape into the higher ethereal. He more than earned it.
Ted affected my life in another way. When I found that his brother had turned him in, I was angry. I understood little about life then and still I was angry. What type of brainwashed slug turns in his brother? And much later, when I was considering moving to Italy amidst the “pandemic”, I remembered all this. Of course in the US it was already like in the Soviet Union, when it came to trusting others. But Italy? A few simple field tests showed that Ted’s brother is like 99% of the people. Yes, there is maybe another 4% who has doubts, but they can not be relied on under duress. I had to get the hell out.
Family members (blood) are often the most likely to do you harm and betray, just like spouses.
During the Civil War in Spain, my cousin’s grandfather was taken to prison, and eventual execution, by a cousin in the police, and probably informed against by another one.
His crime? ‘Being a free-thinker’.
There are such dark currents in families, festering resentments, jealousy, and they can be as brainwashed as anyone else.
Or putting it less cynically, why should they be less likely to do you harm than a stranger?
I only trust in God, and I’ll still ‘tie my camel up’ all the same.
Nothing but admiration for Ted
Yes
What is transhumanism? What is the transhumanist agenda?
Ask the PR Team…. they’ll say — oh that’s just something we came up with on a drunken rampage …
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transhumanism
If you want to know more, ask.
Thanks Keith, it is a highly informative article.
Solving energy on a really large scale.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Dvorsky#Dyson_sphere
Also a transhumanist.
More compact cities.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/06/klaus-schwabs-wef-sets-authoritarian-goal-limit-76/
From Zero hedge an article from oilprice.com
I thought Exxon was having to go deeper into debt and decreasing its caped to maintain the illusion of profitability to its shareholders, And their dividends.
So what is the more effective fracking technique here? Refracting previously spent wells, or “refracking” previously declining sources of investor income from pension funds and venture capitalists to keep this scam alive?
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/ExxonMobil-New-Fracking-Technology-Can-Double-Oil-Output.html
According to the article:
I would interpret this to be a band aid, to somehow get US oil supply up for a few more years. Perhaps it will work. It is probably worth a try. We could run short of fracking sand or other necessary inputs, however.
They’ve been fracking since the very beginning.
They used to throw gun powder and steel pipes in the ground. And blow up the rocks to release gas.
And if you were caught smoking anywhere near you were shot on site. (signs posted warning about this)
The real oilman Mr Mike Shellman exposed it for the BS that it is . Empire of lies . You want to know what the reality of the oil industry is visit his blog .
https://www.oilystuffblog.com/forumstuff/forum-stuff/and-the-lies-they-just-keep-on-a-commin
(Marittime executive and others)
A Turkish ship has been hijacked by illegal immigrants off the gulf of Naples (Italy), special Army Italian forces ‘Battaglione San Marco’ has just finished an urgent intervention by air and sea, with support of Polizia and Guardia di Finanza.
Congratulations to Battaglione San Marco, Polizia and Guardia di Finanza.
Very few news on normal stream media, only on sector news.
Immigrants is a sensitive argument, better to talk about football…
https://maritime-executive.com/article/italian-forces-storm-ro-ro-after-reports-of-threats-by-armed-stowaways
https://gcaptain.com/italian-forces-board-turkish-cargo-ship-to-liberate-crew/
https://twitter.com/denizcilikgm/status/1667399937661779969
https://twitter.com/denizcilikgm/status/1667257587543298057
Immigrant issue is not too far from the general homeless issue in the US.
I was told that in New York, citizens are being asked to take in immigrants to their own homes. Indirectly, this will prevent homelessness.
After World War II, I know that a lot of immigrants were resettled in the US by families taking them in. I know of two different German families that somehow benefitted from this effort. One of my sisters is married to someone who was born in Germany (or perhaps Poland, near Germany). He learned German as a child, before coming over. Another is a family my mother’s parents helped, also German speaking.
I have some doubts it can work again in this period of scarcity and conflicts.
Of course I hope it will go well.
It will go well upwards. Downwards it won’t. And we both know where we are, don’t we?
The constant msm push for diversity is the agenda. To prevent ‘endlosung’.
Mi carrot es su carrot? Mwahaha. Until you run out of carrots. At least you’re not alone, there’s some asylum seeker using your toothbrush and starts asking questions like why didn’t you buy toothpaste.
Morality is declining, right? Scientists say that idea is an illusion
Surveys show people around the world have believed for decades that morals are decaying — but other survey data contradict that perception.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-01848-7?fbclid=IwAR3OrX2MXJPn5jFLKvzdrFLLeCfkly6ZVB3deaMwJxlY821C60fRsJlAwoU
Traditionally, the greatest opponent of innovation and advancement has been the landed gentry, including the Catholic Church who was kinda the biggest landowner in Europe.
The invention of the tractor in 1890s proved to be a bad news for large landowners, which enabled smaller holdings to be viable. In the West the financial system kept order, but in Central Europe, it largely broke the power of the landowners, combined with Soviet purges of them.
They don’t want to lose their power, and any tech advancement creates a dissonance which is a potential threat of their power.
They don’t like the new techs since that means they will become unnecessary. When Klaus Schwab said you will own nothing but you will be happy, these people rose up and undermined whatever WEF was doing with a tenacity and ferocity rarely seen elsewhere- the obsession landowners have on their land is impossible to describe for those who never had land. They don’t care if their progeny all die out – they will find someone. But they will not tolerate a bit if their property is harmed.
The usual treatment for landowners in areas where the communists took over was killing them all, including the children who might try to get back their land (still happening in Cuba where the grandchildren of those who lost their land when Castro took it over are still trying to regain their properties).
And it is the landowners, who don’t want to live in a surveilled world and still wanting to play king in their turf, who cheer for Putin, another oligarch with choice estates in several places in Russia, and his side.
I know that in Norway, last names are those of the farm you live on. I would presume that if a person moves, their last name changes. Thus, if a wife marries and moves to her husband’s family farm, her last name will change.
With this situation, inheritance of farms is very important, as you say.
Gail,
The returns are so lousy farms have to be “family” farms from what I can see. Farming is so much more than dirt although technology has changed it but at the expense of a healthy diet I suspect.
Something is very wrong with US health and a guess is it is the food; literally semi loads of chemicals are put on the land.
Farming may look easy, but it is still damn hard and I think dangerous given the chemicals being handled.
No solutions from me; I confess to liking to eat.
Dennis L.
The chemicals are there so that we can keep feeding the billions .. cuz we are very intelligent .. haven’t you heard?
People worship the Nearings… thinking that farming was about sustainability … hahahahahahahaha It’s why we have billions instead of millions of dummb beasts
I know .. I know … the Nearings were awesome .. no they weren’t they were delusional MORE_ONS
My farm is called Goat Ranch.
But we also have donkeys.
We keep the goats to eat the thistle… the donkeys… well … we have a breeding program .. we select for the biggest dongles… after 6 years of breeding our donkeys have the most impressive dongles…
We monetize that with a boutique clinic for the Rich and Famous Tranny Female Freaks who want to become Real Men …
Most of them are cabaret stars who moonlight flashing their packages to the children .. there is Big Money in that…
They visit and choose their donkey … we then remove the dongle of the donkey and graft it onto the Tranny Freak… we have special drugs to ensure there is no tissue rejection…
The Tranny Freaks are quite satisfied with the product… and they are very proud to display there Very Impressive Dongles… I am told the parents of The Children clap and dance extra vigorously when they see the donkey dongles poking out the side of the panties….
norm … would you like to have a new dongle — we’ll give you a discount
This is on of the better posts by kulm. and it is in complete disagreement with most concepts he has posted so far. Since the only leftover resource is land, with energy declining (I will ignore his many posts about non existent new sources of energy), the elites are those that will oppose innovation from a decade onward.
“… the elites are those that will oppose innovation from a decade onward.”
drb753 is indeed a wise man.
The Schwabian concepts heavily rely on energy use and infrastructure. While the control of energy demand could lead to a surplus by squeezing-out, infrastructure and availability of technology seems to be the most vulnerable points. I doubt that can be kept upright after a WW3.
Landowners draw their powers from owning land. In the moment BAU ends and governments fail, there will be no property rights.
The real assets of the nobility are fame (people know them even asides from TicToc), they can call everyone and a huge family traded military and political knowledge combined with self-discipline.
I cannot imagine Prince William though, establishing peace and justice with his horse and sward!
The Type I civilization is a winner take all civilization, with nothing for the masses.
Earlier I stated that the new spacefaring civ would be like the Spanish Empire of the 16th century, with the gains monopolized by the Spanish Crown and a few conquistadors, while the peasants still lived in great misery which is largely unchanged to this day.
Keith said some will trickle down to the populace, but historical examples show that while the people will get, say, 1 of the trickled down stuff, the ones at top will have a million, 10 million or so.
The current rebellion against the Western Domination was formed because the peoples who will be left out decided to knock everything down before they are left behind as today’s top echelon enters Type I Civilization , space energy, and all that.
And, unfortunately, the rebellion is winning.
The Battle of Zaporozhye is like the battle of Amiens in the Great War, a last ditch effort to save the Old Civilizationn. The Wrong side won the Great War, despite of the claims of some British jingoists who still think it is 1899, and the intrusion of peoples not exactly conducive for advancing civilization probably doomed the world.
Someone posted clips from Brendan Lee O’Connell. He seems to be someone mourning the end of today’s Civilization, like me, and still appears to think that it can be saved. For whatever reason he likes Trump but is skeptical on everyone else.
There are still people like him but they have no real power.
The Hordes are coming, and there won’t be no von Salm (whose name is almost unknown but without him Germany would have been conquered by Turkey 500 years before ) or Sobieski (the Polish King who saved the Habsburgs -he is ridiculed in Poland now because they say he should let Austria fall to the Turks) who risked all to save Civilization.
Klum, this is tricky information, but if you want a view of what happened under the very high level layer of governments, you might want to look at the work of Gregory Clark.
For a long time in the UK (and probably Europe generally and China) the human race has been separating into groups with smarts and drive and the rest. It stopped about 1800, but before that point for 20 generations, the wealthy in the UK had twice as many surviving children as the poor. This resulted in the top strata being overfilled and the genes for smarts and drive becoming widespread.
Clark’s most recent paper (makes a case that most of a person’s eventual status in life is determined by their genes) has what I think is an utterly astonishing element to the model. My wife is not surprised, but I am amazed that people can detect a high genetic correlation with the people they select as mates.
How this affects higher levels is very complicated. I don’t understand it, but am aware.
lol
i give up
a little while ago i said people were getting earth exploration (seafaring)—mixed up with ‘spacefaring,
truly hilarious.
i do wish theyd stop putting out those repeats of startrek