Last week, the CDC announced a surprising finding: “Delta infection resulted in similarly high SARS-CoV-2 viral loads in vaccinated and unvaccinated people.” Public officials had known from the early days of vaccine development that vaccinated people could catch COVID-19, but the assumption had been made that they were not going to be spreaders of COVID-19.
It turns out that the delta variant is sufficiently different from the original Wuhan version of the virus that the vaccines work much less well. The CDC performed an analysis of COVID-19 cases arising from one public gathering in Massachusetts. They found that the gathering led to 469 COVID-19 Delta cases among Massachusetts residents, with 74% of these cases in fully vaccinated attendees. Massachusetts is a highly vaccinated state, with approximately 64% of the population fully vaccinated.
There are other issues coming up as well. How long does the vaccine really last? Is the vaccine itself part of the reason that the virus is mutating as rapidly as it is? Are we making problems for ourselves by creating an army of people with very light cases of COVID-19 who can spread the virus to both the vaccinated and the unvaccinated without realizing that they have more than a cold? Aren’t we inadvertently killing off the least able of the virus mutations and allowing the most virulent to multiply?
My training is as an actuary, so I am familiar with modeling. I am also a “systems thinker.” I know that it is important to look at longer term impacts as well as short-term impacts. If a person works in the healthcare field, it is easy to consider only the obvious short-term benefits. It takes some analysis to figure out that today’s vaccines may lead to stronger variants (such as Delta) and more overall spread of COVID-19.
In this post, I will explain some of the issues involved.
[1] Today’s vaccines provide only a fraction of the true level of protection required. Their actions are in many ways similar to applying weed killer at half the strength needed to kill the weeds or providing antibiotics at half the dose required to stop the spread of bacteria.
All of our lives, we have been told, “Be sure to complete the full course of the antibiotics. It is necessary to kill all of the bacteria. Otherwise, it will be easier for a few of the stronger bacteria not to be affected. If you stop too early, the bacteria that are least affected by the antibiotic will survive and reproduce, while the others will die. Stopping the drug too soon is a great way to achieve antibiotic resistance, quickly.”
Unfortunately, COVID-19 vaccine makers seem to have overlooked this issue. The respected BMJ published an editorial entitled, Will covid-19 vaccines save lives? Current trials aren’t designed to tell us. It makes the point:
Peter Hotez, dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine in Houston, said, “Ideally, you want an antiviral vaccine to do two things . . . first, reduce the likelihood you will get severely ill and go to the hospital, and two, prevent infection and therefore interrupt disease transmission.”
Yet the current phase III trials are not actually set up to prove either.
We were told that the new COVID-19 vaccines are “95% effective in preventing symptomatic disease,” but it turns out that this is far less adequate than what most people would assume. The vaccine is “leaky.” A big issue is that the virus mutates, and the vaccine works much less well against the mutations. The world can never reach herd immunity if immunized people keep catching new variants of COVID-19 and keep passing them on, as the evidence now suggests.
[2] In a way, getting sick from a virus is helpful. It tells us to stay at home, away from others. It is the fact that humans experience symptoms from viruses that tends to limit their spread.
If a virus has severe symptoms, those infected with the virus will not feel well enough to continue their usual activities. They will tend to stay at home.
If the symptoms are mild, as is the case with the common cold, people will likely go about their activities as usual. This is especially the case if people need to work to feed their families. Thus, viruses with mild symptoms often spread easily.
But, if citizens feel that they are protected by a vaccine, they will likely continue to go about their activities as usual. Most of them will not realize that they might be spreaders of Delta, and perhaps other new COVID-19 variants. Symptoms are likely to be mild or non-existent.
[3] It is becoming clear that people immunized with today’s vaccines can both catch the delta variant and spread it to others.
As I mentioned above, the CDC concluded from looking at its analysis of 469 delta cases that the infection resulted in similarly high SARS-CoV-2 viral loads in vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals.
We have independent corroboration of the ability of vaccinated individuals to spread delta COVID-19 in a new analysis from Singapore. This article reports, “PCR cycle threshold (Ct) values were similar between both vaccinated and unvaccinated groups at diagnosis.” This is precisely the information that the CDC was relying on in Massachusetts when they reported that there were similarly high SARS-CoV-2 viral loads in vaccinated and unvaccinated people. While this analysis has not yet been peer reviewed, it reaches precisely the same conclusion with respect to early viral load as the Massachusetts analysis.
The data from this same Singapore study indicates that there are about 3 times as many asymptomatic cases in the vaccinated (28.2%) as the unvaccinated (9.2%). The median number of symptoms reported by the vaccinated was 1, compared to 2 in the unvaccinated. Among the vaccinated, the most frequent symptoms were fever (40.9%), runny nose (38%) and cough (38%). One of these symptoms, especially if it occurred only briefly, could easily be overlooked as a sign of COVID-19.
[4] With nearly all of the current vaccines, the immune system is trained to look for the spike protein from the original Wuhan virus. This narrow focus makes it relatively easy for the virus to mutate in ways that outsmart the vaccine.
A “History of Vaccines” website indicates that there are several ways vaccines are being made, including weakened (“attenuated”) viruses, killed viruses, and segments of the pathogen. In the new COVID-19 vaccines, a particularly limited part of the virus is used, the spike protein. In fact, in the newer vaccines, only an mRNA code is injected, and the body is instructed to make the spike protein itself.
Using a very narrow target has made it easier for viruses to evade the effects of the vaccine. Delta is one variant of the original virus from Wuhan that is evading vaccines through its mutations. Another such variant is Lambda, which caused serious problems in Chile in the spring of 2021, despite vaccine usage as high as 60%. The virus underlying all of these variants is called SARS-CoV-2, reflecting the fact that this virus is closely related to the virus which caused the 2003 SARS epidemic.
Since vaccination began about December 15, 2020, we have so far encountered two variants that are poorly controlled by vaccines. This is not a promising sign for the long-term success of COVID-19 vaccines. As more time goes on, we can expect more such variants. These variants do not necessarily stay around for more than a few months, making it difficult to create and distribute new specially targeted vaccines.
[5] Given the likelihood of mutations away from the narrow target, it seems strange that the governments have set very high expectations for the new vaccines.
It seems to me that Pfizer and Moderna should have said, “We are producing new vaccines that will somewhat lessen symptoms. In a way, they will be like the annual influenza vaccines that various companies make each year. We will need to update the vaccines regularly, but we will likely miss. Hopefully, our guess regarding what will work will be ‘close enough,’ so the vaccine will provide some partial benefit for the upcoming variations.”
Such a statement would have provided a more realistic set of expectations, compared to what many people have been assuming. No one would expect that herd immunity would ever be reached. The vaccines would be perceived as fairly weak tools that need to be used alongside medications, if they are to be used at all.
[6] Leaky vaccines, if widely used, can encourage the virus to mutate toward more virulent (severe) forms. Ultimately, the problem becomes viruses that mutate to more virulent forms faster than the vaccine system can keep up.
If, as we are seeing today, vaccinated people can catch the variant and pass it on to both vaccinated and unvaccinated people, this extra boost can help the variant tremendously in its ability to spread. This extra boost is especially helpful for the variants that are very virulent, since in the normal situation, people who catch a virulent variant would recognize that they are sick and stay at home.
There would normally be a limit on how much the variant could spread based on its impact on the unvaccinated. This limit goes away if both the vaccinated and unvaccinated can catch and spread the illness. Without a vaccine, the variants might be either more or less virulent, with the more virulent tending to die out because the people who get them either die or stay at home because they are very ill. I would expect that this is the reason why quite a few viruses tend to become less severe (virulent) over time, when leaky vaccines are not available to artificially boost their virulence.
The article, Vaccines are Pushing Pathogens to Evolve, gives the example of how the vaccines for Marek’s disease in chickens have been failing, as the disease gradually evolves to become more virulent under pressure from the vaccines being used to keep this illness away. The first vaccine was introduced in 1970. A decade later, outbreaks of Marek’s disease began to be found in vaccinated flocks. A second vaccine was licensed in 1983, but it too began to fail. When the article was written in 2018 the industry was on its third vaccine, but it too was beginning to fail, as the disease became more deadly. But there was no new vaccine yet available.
A 2015 article in PLOS Biology is entitled, Imperfect Vaccination Can Enhance the Transmission of Highly Virulent Pathogens. A person would think everyone involved in vaccine technology would be very much aware of this issue.
The chase after new vaccines is precisely the problem we can expect to have with the vaccines for COVID-19. Only, our problem with the vaccine not really working correctly is coming after a few months, not 10 years. Trying to keep up with new vaccines for a virus that evolves away from us, this quickly, is likely to be an impossible task. It is not just the unvaccinated who have a problem; it is everyone, as the vaccines quickly lose their effectiveness.
[7] Another potential problem with COVID-19 vaccines is Antibody Dependent Enhancement (ADE). When this occurs, it worsens later infections by different variants.
ADE is a rather strange condition in which the antibodies against one variant gained from a first infection (or immunization) act to make some later infections by a different variant worse, rather than better. Dengue Fever is an example of an illness for which this is an issue.
Dr. Robert Malone thinks that ADE may be happening now for COVID-19. He sees the high virus levels in immunized individuals as evidence of possible ADE.
The large number of immunized patients in the hospital with COVID-19 in Israel (which has mostly Delta cases) is also given as possible evidence:
The illness SARS is closely related to COVID-19. There is evidence that vaccinations against SARS tend to produce ADE. In fact, the National Institute of Health provided funding for a 2020 academic paper that reaches the following conclusion:
The specific and significant COVID-19 risk of ADE should have been and should be prominently and independently disclosed to research subjects currently in vaccine trials, as well as those being recruited for trials and future patients after vaccine approval, in order to meet the medical ethics standards for informed consent.
[8] Another problem with the current vaccines against COVID-19 is that immunity may not last very long.
The virus that causes COVID-19 is a coronavirus. The common cold is another illness caused by a coronavirus. We know the immunity of the common cold doesn’t last very long, perhaps a year. While we don’t have long-term experience with COVID-19 vaccine immunity, we shouldn’t be surprised if its immunity begins to wane within a few months, or in a year or two.
Israel, after analyzing its recent COVID-19 experience (almost all with the Delta variant), is now offering anyone over 60 who was vaccinated more than 5 months ago a booster shot. Third doses are also being given to those with weakened immune systems.
It should be noted that if immunity doesn’t last very long, any strategy of “flattening the curve” by stretching out COVID-19 cases becomes counterproductive because it runs the risk of moving the timeframe of the next cycle beyond the time when natural (and vaccine-induced) immunity is still operative.
[9] The public has been led to believe that vaccines are the only solution to COVID-19 when, in fact, they are at best a very poor and temporary band-aid.
Vaccines are a tempting solution because the benefits have been oversold and no one has explained how poorly today’s leaky vaccines really work.
We are already past the period when these vaccines were well matched with the viruses they were aimed at. Now we are in a situation in which the viruses are constantly mutating, and the vaccines need to be updated. The catch is that the variants stick around for such a short time period that by the time the vaccine is updated, there is likely to be yet another new variant that the new vaccine does not really match up with well.
Requirements that employees be vaccinated against COVID-19 cannot be expected to provide much benefit to employers because workers will still be out sick with COVID-19. This happens because they are likely to catch a variant such as Delta, which does not line up with the original vaccine. Perhaps they will be out for a shorter period, and their hospital bills will be lower. These types of benefits are what people have expected of influenza vaccines. There is no reason for them to expect more of the new COVID-19 vaccines.
Even with 100% vaccination herd immunity can never be reached because the vaccine encourages the virus to mutate into more virulent forms. Each new variant stays around for only a few months, making it hard for vaccine makers to keep up with the changing nature of the problem. Vaccine makers can expect to face a constant battle in having to run to stay even. Someone will have to convince citizens that each new vaccine makes sense, even though injuries reported to the US Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System seem to be much more frequent than those reported for vaccines for other diseases.
An erroneous, one-sided story is being told to the general public, in part because the pharmaceutical lobby is incredibly powerful. It has the support of influential people, such as Anthony Fauci and Bill Gates. The pharmaceutical industry can make billions of dollars in income from the sale of vaccines, with little in the way of sales expenses. The industry has managed to convince people that it is OK to sell these vaccines, even though injury rates are very high compared to those for vaccines in general.
Vaccines are being pushed in large part because the pharmaceutical industry needs a money maker. It also wants to be seen as having cutting-edge technology, so young people will be attracted to the field. It cannot admit to anyone that technologies from decades ago would perhaps work better to solve the COVID-19 problem.
[10] The pharmaceutical industry has been telling the world that inexpensive drugs can’t fix our problem. However, there are several low-cost drugs that appear helpful.
One drug that is being overlooked is ivermectin, which was discovered in the late 1970s. It was originally introduced as a veterinary drug to cure parasitic infections in animals. In the U. S., ivermectin has been used since 1987 for eliminating parasites such as ringworm in humans. Ivermectin seems to cure COVID-19 in humans, but it needs a higher dosage than has been previously approved. Also, it would not be a money maker for the pharmaceutical industry.
The possible use of ivermectin to cure COVID-19 seems to have been intentionally hidden. At approximately 32:45 in this linked video, Dr. David Martin explains how Moderna announced ivermectin’s utility in treating SARS (which is closely related to SARS-CoV-2) in its 2016-2018 patent modification related to the SARS virus. It sounds as though Moderna (and others) have participated both in developing harmful viruses and in developing vaccines to cure very closely related viruses. They then work to prevent the sale of cheap drugs that might reduce their sales of vaccines. This seems unconscionable.
Vitamin D, in high enough doses, taken well before exposure to the virus that causes COVID-19, seems to lead to reduced severity of the disease, and may eliminate some cases completely.
Various steroid drugs are often used in the later stages of COVID-19, when conditions warrant it. The medical community seems to have no difficulty with these.
Monoclonal antibodies are also used in the treatment of COVID-19, but they are much more expensive.
[11] Conclusion. Governments, businesses, and citizens need to understand that today’s vaccines are not really solutions to our COVID-19 problem. At the same time, they need better solutions.
Current vaccines have been badly oversold. They can be expected to make the mutation problem worse, and they don’t stop the spread of variants. Instead, we need to start quickly to make ivermectin and other inexpensive drugs available through healthcare systems. People do need some sort of solution to the problem of COVID-19 illnesses; it just turns out that the current vaccines work so poorly that they probably should not be part of the solution.
The whole idea of vaccine passports is absurd. Even with the vaccine, people will catch the new COVID-19 variants, and they will pass them on to others. Perhaps they may get lighter symptoms, so that they will be off work for a shorter length of time, but there still will be disruption. If those who catch COVID-19 can instead take ivermectin at a high enough dose at the first sign of illness, many (or most) of them can get well in a few days and avoid hospitalization completely. Other medications may be helpful as well.
I am skeptical that masks can do any good with the high level of transmission of Delta. But at least masks aren’t very harmful. We probably need to go along with what is requested by officials.
It is becoming clear that today’s pharmaceutical industry is far too powerful. Investigations need to be made into the large number of allegations against it and its leaders. Why did members of the pharmaceutical industry find it necessary to patent viruses, and then later sell vaccines for a virus closely related to the viruses it had patented?
“America is flying blind when it comes to the Delta variant…
“Still being reported by CDC, from their latest website data, and a constant refrain from public health officials, is that “99.99% of people fully vaccinated against Covid-19 have not had a breakthrough case resulting in hospitalization or death.” That could not be further from the truth.”
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/aug/09/america-is-flying-blind-when-it-comes-to-the-delta-variant
“US debt investors spooked by Delta variant concerns…
“Investors have backed away from the debt of some of the most Covid-afflicted US companies, after re-evaluating the pace of the reopening of the American economy in light of the spread of the Delta variant of the coronavirus.”
https://www.ft.com/content/f7ba3dc6-f5b8-4709-acd7-d7b535235235
Also in the Guardian article, immediately following the part quoted by Harry:
That could not be further from the truth. In the July Provincetown Delta outbreaks that the CDC reported on the risk of fully vaccinated requiring hospitalization was 1%, not .01%, and that may not be a reliable estimate for the incidence of such infections occurring throughout the country.
Without tracking, we have no idea of the proportion of people fully vaccinated who are getting ill, hospitalized, or dying. There is no question the frequency of requiring hospitalization is increasing, as reflected by data from some counties that are tracking breakthroughs on their own and reporting that 10 to 20% of admissions are in vaccinated individuals. But we have no denominator.
The higher hospitalization rate in Provincetown may be related to it being a favorite site for promiscuous gay sex. Many may already have AIDS and be on lifelong virus blocker medications that may make them susceptible Covid.
The Guardian had an article a year or two ago about gays really getting back into wild promiscuity and drugged orgies.
Very sleezy people on the whole, with, it seems, an urge to abuse their bodies.
I saw a similar article last year … apparently it’s the thing to use apps to select random participants who convene and take drugs that get them off their faces … they engage in unprotected humping which often results in the spread of various diseases including HIV…
To be honest… if hot fit women pinged me on an app and offered drugs and humping … I’d be severely tempted… but that would only happen in DelusiSTAN….
The straights have their swingers’ parties as well…
I looked back at the Singapore study (not yet peer reviewed) I mentioned in my post. It does not mention a hospitalization rate for either the vaccinated or the unvaccinated.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.28.21261295v1.full.pdf
It mentions that in this sample of 71 vaccinated individuals (median age 56, but no one over the age of 65 or under the age 18), 9 developed pneumonia (12.7%) and 2 required supplemental oxygen (3%). A total of 5 required COVID-19 specific treatment (7.0%).
A person would think at least 2% of this group was hospitalized. These folks were not gay, generally.
“Delta outbreak piles pressure on China’s homegrown vaccines. Officials insist jabs work but lack of peer-reviewed research reinforces doubts about efficacy…
“Last week, a journalist from the People’s Daily, the Chinese Communist party’s official newspaper, asked Nanjing health authorities at a press conference how many of the recent infections were people who had already been vaccinated — a phenomenon known as breakthrough infections.
“The officials did not provide a breakdown but within an hour of asking the question, the reporter was disciplined…”
https://www.ft.com/content/dd7ca21d-d779-45d8-aca5-c8f86f94f15e
“China has punished more than 40 local officials for failing to control a spiraling Delta variant outbreak, as authorities scramble to curb the worst resurgence of Covid-19 the country has seen in over a year.”
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/08/10/china/china-covid-officials-punished-intl-hnk/index.html
Amusing.
It’s great being a Party member in China – until you have to perform the impossible, I suppose……
The US and China are beginning to sound more and more alike in their COVID-19 reporting.
The largest vaccine hesitance group is those with a PhD.
Maybe they will introduce vaccine passports to separate and protect the unvaccinated from the vaccinated lab rats?
I beg to differ. The educated and giggly educate are the ones who will gladly take the shot. No need persuasion.
I suspect vaccine uptake is actually least amongst the oligarchs and the vaccine designers.
I suspect that there are a lot of low-level vaccine designers who are oblivious to the problems that the vaccines cause. They have only heard, “Reducing symptoms is great!”
A bit of history for a change: we have discussed the important move made by the British Empire to oil in order to power the Royal Navy before WW1.
The idea was, surprisingly, suggested by the consul in Odessa, Colonel Stewart, who saw the Russians make the change first – at that time, Russia was an enemy thought to have ambitions to conquer India, and he saw that oil might give them an advantage….
And to counter the Russians, UK made the fateful decision to ally with Japan, a decision paid by the sailors of Repulse and Prince of the Wales later.
It always seemed to be a good idea at that time..
This waiting destroys me, I was so sure, last year that November collapse had come, I was really sure, now it looks like a dead cancer patient who thought he was dying and remained alive and doesn’t know what to do. I have no plans for this period I have quit all my work, I have quit everything and I have been out of work, I don’t know what to do, I’m just waiting for the end
What’s the rush? The collapse of a civilization is a long and arduous process, unless a extinction level comet strikes earth.
You might as well chill out, grab some popcorn and watch the covid tragicomedy.
🤣👍👍
I understand what you mean, I had the same thoughts. Fortunately I have learnt this (I apologize for the bad translation):
Do you have the patience to wait
until your mud settles and the water runs clear?
Can you stay still
until the right action happens on its own?
Wu Wei
The events don’t depend on you. Why worrying about it?
Marco- this is not a time to sit around, it is a the time to improve your resilience, plant a garden, learn to can food, learn a skill that will be needed after energy decent and so much more. Purchase the book “Retrosuburbia” as a starting point if you don’t know where to start.
Good luck!
Ivan
Meanwhile… I am working on my ambush and sniper skills… I can hit a doomie prepper from 400 metres… 9 out of 10x!!!
I am collecting leg irons for the harem….
Thank you very much to all answer
I first discovered ‘Peak Oil’ back in March 2003. The invasion of Iraq was imminent and I was searching the web for oil import statistics for the USA, how much for each country. I found the info 2 weeks later on the US government’s energy portal, the Energy Information Administration’s website.
What I found that day was an article on Jay Hanson’s dieoff website. The article stated that global oil production would peak about 2010. I had never come across any P.O. forecast before, so it was a bit of a shocker. Over the next few years 2010 seemed approximately correct, give or take a few years, but I was sure serious economic decline would kick in by 2010, and the final crash no later than 2015. And here we are 2021 and still going, just. Mainly due to monumental debt levels, propaganda via the MSM and an easily manipulated, compliant general public (at least here in the UK). TPTB will do whatever it takes to keep the system going as long as possible. I am surprised we have lasted as long as we have. We might have a few years yet, maybe not.
Marco, most of the time we do what we have to do. And some of the time, we do what we want to do. The question is, what are the things that you have to be doing right now?
We are in the collapse.
That is certain.
If you sometimes have doubts about our situation, then the following thought experiment might be helpful. Humans consume oil, coal, NG, raw materials and rare earth minerals. This we transform in to GDP. Or human activity. Because there is no such thing as a green economy, therefore every thing we humans do, diminish and destroys the natural world. For every bit that the global IC economy grows, equally bit by bit then our natural world dies. But if our economy doesn`t grow, then our debts, pensions and money implodes. Therefore we must grow and dissipate energy, until the very end. We have no choice.
Sadly there is no other way out we are in the fast collapse mode.. Half of our oil, coal, NG, raw materials and rare earth minerals have been consumed in the last 35 years. So.. humans from 200.000BCE up untill 1985 consumed and destroyed the planet by “100”.. and we destroyed the planet by another “100” from 1985 till 2020. And if our exponential growth were to continue (slow collapse) then by 2050 we would need to destroy the planet by another “200”.. so something gotta give (also a slow collapse isn’t possible).
Living with the knowledge that billions of people are going to go away in the following decades, is not easy. Living with the knowledge that we failed the Fermi Paradox and the great filter test in the last 40 years.. that is not easy. Also living “alone” surrounded by people with a psychotic delusional culture, is not easy. Humans need each other. That is what our biology has programmed us for. To rely and trust in each other. But relying on your fellow man is not easy today. The delusions our brothers and sisters have are so bark raving mad..
Our myth of progress = that is not true
Our destiny is a linear line in to the stars = that is not true
We are good, honest and moral people = that is not true (look at the evidence of the mess we leave behind)
Renewable energy and a circular economy will save us = that is not true
Technology will save us = that is not true
We will have Pensions = that is not true
There will be a Green economy/ green new deal = that is not true
We will build back better = that is not true
We have a Future = that is not true..
When everybody else is delusional and psychotic.. well.. that it is not easy place to be in. For me it works to read “realism”. Books like Sun Tzu the art of war, Macciavelli, the prince, Miamoto Musashi the book of five rings. For me the wisdom in these books represent a formula to discern reality. With the academia being what it is. And our MSM being what it is. Well.. maybe the truth aint pretty, but it is still the truth. And that comforts and relaxes me.
Marco, do the things what you have to do, most of the time. And somewhere in between, do the things that you want to do. Because thats all we can do..
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Very fine comment!
“Also living ‘alone’ surrounded by people with a psychotic delusional culture, is not easy.”
As much as I’ve been around very smart people on OFW the reality of the above observation struck home with exceptional force today. The COVID vaccine meme clinches the deal. Collapse involves every economic material and every societal program we’re experiencing. They’re all collapsing together. But we could previously scramble around and hang on for a good while up to the time the vaccination hysteria hit. In the current civilization, we’re confronted with universal stew PDT. We were not prepared for how extreme that was, and how quickly it could swing the majority of society into murderous totalitarianism. And we have stumbled into a state of defenselessness against it.
Collapse is total… no such thing as collapse lite… Collapse is extinction … 100% guaranteed… due to amongst other things… the spent fuel ponds…
If you are an Elder… you would not think the way you do … you would think more like Fast Eddy…. or Spock… you would conclude that collapse = extinction …
Does it make sense to run the engine full throttle — as the oil seeps out … till it billows smoke and explodes… in a cacophany of murder, rape, disease, starvation .. and radiation ….
Or do you Do the Right Thing … and put down the 8B in a compassionate way.
Don’t get confused… this is extinction. No matter what you do … it IS extinction.
What would you do…. no … no… don’t think like you think… think like an Elder… use logic… do you want 8B people to suffer horribly before they die…. what upside is there to that? Unless of course you enjoy allowing suffering just for the fun of it…
Remember… every country is on board with the Injections … there is ZERO dissent ….
It’s a shame I’m not an elder. I could see this coming 50 years ago, but I thought so little of myself that I figured I’d rail and rant, then walk away and hope for the best. Instead everything got exponentially worse. The elders should have done a little better.
Art. That’s what zim going to ask the Big Man upstairs at the pearly gates..
“Why didn’t you do a better job!?”
Very good comment, Marco. It is very hard for most people to visualise this, however. Most humans believe in the myth of progress. It is exceedingly difficult to get this message across and one is usually labelled a doomer for trying to do so.
Every species damages their environment but, up until humans though up agriculture (or maybe once they’d starting making complex tools) that damage was generally recoverable by nature. There are too many of us doing too much damage for ecosystems to heal, especially as we tend to stay in one place.
Humans are a species with a characteristic behaviour. I don’t think any species can voluntarily change its characteristic behaviour (the odd individual excepted) and we can easily see what its characteristic behaviour is just by looking at the past. The only brake on human behaviour will be its eventual inability to live as it has in the past. That new environment will force new behaviour but most people, including environmentalists, just want a tweak here or there to enable us to continue business as usual.
Progress? You want progress? How about inventing an entire planet in a week! Now THAT is progress
Thank you very much to all
Everytime i do some questione i have some beutifil answer like this so is why i continue to do questions,)
If you are keen on checking out early … make sure to get the Injections.
There is a similar list for dealing with Injection Rejecters
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/revealed-the-bbc-guide-for-covering-climate-change
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This is hilarious!!!!
If you want to get inside the mind of a re t ard ed MOREon…. I recommend this … notice how everyone else is to blame … notice how the solution is ‘to reduce burning carbon’ without understanding that reducing consumption and the burning of carbon would result in billions hunting rats and roasting them under a bridge….
As with Covid … the elite thinkers recognize the agenda behind rubbish like this…. why even talk about GW when there is NO solution … obviously the agenda is to deflect from the peak oil story…
https://unherd.com/2021/08/who-set-greece-on-fire/
I AM writing to raise awareness about the deeply disturbing political and social situation right now in Lithuania, and I firmly believe that the 50 per cent of Lithuanian citizens who have declined Covid-19 vaccination, and even a large number of those who have been vaccinated, support me in this call for the attention of international communities. There has been nothing published in mainstream media outside our country.
Today, August 10, the Lithuanian government is due to review and accept the following amendments of state legislations denying non-vaccinated people, including school age children, access to:
– public transport;
– primary and secondary care medical institutions;
– any trade and service where the human contact is longer than 15 minutes;
– libraries, museums, concerts, theatres;
– schools and universities;
– shops with an area larger than 1,500 sq m.
The state’s statutory sick leave will be waived for those who do not take the vaccine.
The principal officers and staff at the Lithuanian Parliament who are non-vaccinated or oppose the aforementioned changes had their Parliament entry ID cards deactivated on Friday (August 6) so will not be allowed to attend. Will the opposing MPs be next?
A Lithuanian MEP is openly running hate speech against non-vaccinated people – advising the public to stop all the contacts with those without inoculation, including family members. The expression ‘unnecessary ballast to society’ is being used by the director of the Employment Service Institution. The segregation of people, friends and even families has started in a country of only three million.
Military forces of Lithuania are due to receive enhanced powers, including takeover the property of the businesses and individuals.
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/lithuanias-brutal-clampdown-on-the-jab-refuseniks/
This kind of policy is rolling out everywhere, to varying degrees: can’t shop, socialise, work, get medical care, etc, unless vaxxed. Se France, Israel, Ireland…..
So, complete civil, economic extinction as ‘unnecessary ballast’ if unvaxxed: Tony Blair called for the unvaxxed in the UK to ‘be treated differently’ a month or two go, as we now have ‘two kinds of people.’
‘Conspiracy theories’ ARE conspiracy FACT.
This partly explains the push for a 100% injection rate, so that the minority of dissenters (the most intelligent and independent people in society) is a small as possible and easier to kill off without much disruption. Then all the vaxxed wil be compliant.
This began with lies, proceeded with murder, an they know no ethical limits.
I notice that all of these countries (France, Isreal, Ireland) are on the US CDC Level 4 COVID-19 Level Very High list, with respect to travel recommendations, in spite of all of their vaccinations.
Portugal is high. We are still going to Portugal n September. Being in our 60s with good health we have no worries.
“Tony Blair called for the unvaxxed in the UK to ‘be treated differently’ a month or two go, as we now have ‘two kinds of people.’”
Tony Blair was effectively kicked out of office by his own party if I remember correctly, a very disliked leader and man. I tend to think of him as beelzebub’s right hand man in the UK. And yet he is still occasionally invited on to the BBC for his opinions, and his mutterings are regularly reported throughout the UK MSM. TPTB like him.
Nigel Farage tried to bring his supporters in behind Blair’s Vax plan at the start of the year, and they revolted.
Farage then tried the ‘horrible people can still have good ideas’ line of argument, then gave up.
Farage had the support to defy the injectors, but not the guts.
To my great misfortune, I saw Cherie Blair in the flesh once: Tony’s already done some of his long-overdue time in Hell, I’d reckon……
Take their property and then ? Direct to mass graves or a side stop at a camp?
Lesson of the 20th century: never leave your property, or go to any camp or centre.
Better to die on home turf, as you choose, than on their terms, humiliated and tortured.
The department of health in Norway announced today that all covid related measures will be cancelled by the end of September, and both vaccinated and unvaccinated would have equal rights to do stuff.
Minister of health Bent Høie said that we have to get back to normal at some point, and that all these covid measures have a negative effect on public health.
A glimmer of sanity. But it is also worth noting that the parliamentary election is in the beginning of September… So things can change I guess,
Promises… promises…
Have a look at this heap of sh it out of the NZ ministry of truth …. count the times it says back to normal … reduced quarantine etc….
Obviously targeting fence sitters
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/covid-19-coronavirus-fully-vaccinated-kiwis-coming-home-first-cab-off-the-rank-for-shorter-miq-stays/CY42NUUVUQQLPD45C3GBRDZOUA/
normdunc – what are you holding out for before you Inject the Booster?
Me… well … I am going to call the Covid Hotline tomorrow and present my demands:
1. A free return ride on a Gulfstream 550 to any destination in the world
2. A month free board at the hotel of my choice
3. Unlimited hot babes (of my choice)
4. Blow – plenty – pills – plenty
5. A top DJ performing every evening
For the rest of you … it’s a donut.. or in Romania… a sausage sandwich….
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/take-the-jab-and-win-a-sausage-sandwich/
The US, as in most things, leads the way with jab prizes. Across the states you can get anything from college scholarships, guns, cash ($100 as urged by Biden and $1,500 by two former presidential candidates), beer, Super Bowl tickets and be entered in sweepstakes and lotteries for cruises, foreign holidays, luxury cars and gym memberships. Believe it or not, there are reduced prison sentences of up to 50 per cent.
The list goes on. A cynic might think that the jabbing totals are falling way short of the globalists’ requirements and that they are running scared. I just think they are being supremely generous, caring and have our best interests at heart, as is their corporate nature.
China has some corkers. If you have two jabs in parts of Beijing you can claim two cartons of eggs. Elsewhere you can get chicken wings, flour or free entry to parks.
India has chosen gold nose pins for women and ‘hand blenders’ for men. When Gordon Brown sold off our gold reserves for next to nothing did India buy them? And before I move on, just what is a ‘hand blender’ for men?
In Thailand you can be entered into a draw to win a cow. Serbia is offering 3,000 dinars, which sounds a lot but is equal to $30. An Australian union wants half a day’s paid leave for taking the shot.
Russia hands out five cars a week to Moscow residents. Londoners can get free pizzas and coffee. Typical British meanness . . . a slice of pizza as against a free gun in America.
The most unusual incentive is probably from a Philippines property developer who is offering a house and plot plus two motorcycles . . . it’s the motorcycles that clinch it.
The most frustrating prize probably comes from the Netherlands. You can get free ‘soused’ herrings if you take the shot. Apparently, one punter asked for ‘pickled’ herrings and was told in no uncertain terms that ‘it’s soused or nothing’. It’s not recorded whether or not he told the jabber to stick the needle where the sun don’t shine.
In Romania the queues started to form the moment it was announced that barbecued sausage sandwiches would be given away. A sausage sandwich! Doesn’t the mind just boggle! A piece of minced meat in a bread roll for my life?
I like freedom of choice wrapped in tragicomedy.
Morally dubious, yes, but what the heck.
Not only freedom of choice, but a great prize!
No cattle trucks here, we’ve evolved…….
If people bend over after some mild coercion then they should be written off in my books.
Would you like to be surrounded by people that might get persuaded into becoming accomplices in a Holocaust?
If they force you to take the vax at gunpoint, just ask them to press the trigger. Realistically, you’re a dead man walking anyway, so am I. It is only a matter of time.
It is what it is.
Well said. They dominate my village.
“Would you like to be surrounded by people that might get persuaded into becoming accomplices in a Holocaust?”
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/IMG_3504.jpg
You forgot to demand publication of your manifesto.
This time I think Penthouse would print it willingly!
https://tv.gab.com/channel/standonprinciples/view/dr-destroys-the-entire-covid-narrative-611132777b022aa59dd65777
Interesting. I still don’t see how that fits with fewer serious illnesses and deaths in the UK and other places with high vaccination rates, but certainly worth consideration. Who was that doctor?
Also interesting is this response: https://www.educatetruth.com/author/seanpitman/
Oh my….. mike has exposed his true intentions … he is trying to recruit us to The Church of Cr.azy!!!
mike tries to pretend he is normal (which is itself a big negative on OFW…) then suddenly … he springs The Madness on us!!!
Like a bear trap. Big no no mike… Big Big Big ..no NO….. it won’t work…. well possibly norm dunc might join… they are keen on scams (see Injections and Boosters)…. but the pickings will be Slim here on OFW…
You have shown your true colours…. we’ll be loading you into the cage and parading you from village to village inviting the children to Poke you .. with sharp sticks… and spit upon you…
mike… mike… what were you thinking when you linked off to that In Sanity?????
What we believe
Statement on Creation : The Bible’s Worldview
The Seventh-day Adventist Church affirms its belief in the biblical account of creation in contrast to an evolutionary explanation for the origin of living organisms and the relationship of humans to other life forms. Seventh-day Adventists note with great interest the increasing discussion of intelligent design in nature and the evidence that supports this view. In the light of considerable public interest in this topic the Church takes this opportunity to express its confidence in the biblical record.
Seventh-day Adventists believe that God is the Creator of all life and that the Bible reveals a reliable account of His creative activity. Further, we believe that the biblical events recorded in Genesis 1-11, including the special creation of human beings, are historical and recent, that the seven days of creation were literal 24 hour days forming a literal week, and that the Flood was global in nature.
Belief in creation is foundational for Seventh-day Adventist understanding concerning much more than the question of origins. The purposes and mission of God described in the Bible, human responsibility for stewardship of the environment, the institution of marriage and the sacred meaning of the Sabbath all find their meaning in the doctrine of creation.
https://www.educatetruth.com/about/what-we-believe/
Crazy insanity
Belief #6. God has revealed in Scripture the authentic and historical account of his creative activity. He created the universe and in a recent six-day creation, the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested on the Seventh day. Thus He established the Sabbath as a perpetual memorial of the workhe performed and completed during six literal days that together with the Sabbath constituted the same unit of time that we call a week today. The first man and woman were made in the image of God as the crowning work of Creation, given dominion over the world, and charged with responsibility to care for it. When the world was finished it was “very good,” declaring the glory of God.
Chief Cra.zy Man:
https://i2.wp.com/www.educatetruth.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Sean3.jpg
Mike, I agree it’s interesting that TPTB have also infiltrated the Seventh Day Adventists with their “fact checking”.
Incidentally, do you also endorse Mr. Pitman’s views on Darwinism?
August 11, 2021 … note that date…. it’s the first of many more Mockmike days…. it’s the day that mike got dumped into the swill barrel and fed to the swine….
It’s the day mike was exposed as a complete and utter… Nutter… and Utternutter….
Sorry mike … OFW does not have a rewind function … so you cannot unpost that link…. not that you would want to because that would be Betraying God….
here’s mike:
https://norwegianscitechnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/villhunder-bm-pho_k2e5009-1.jpg
and mike goes down for the count
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/q4RTIE4clSM/maxresdefault.jpg
And this response: https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com/p/dr-stocks-presentation-is-filled
I don’t think every point Dr Stock raised has been properly addressed but much of what he says seems to be open to debate (at the very least).
let’s ask the 7th day adventists what they think… then let’s ask pee wee herman…. let’s ask my dog what she thinks…he dog … what do you think?
I understand Seventh Day Adventist were the original folks concerned about the quality of food supply. Studies of their life expectancy come out higher than for the rest of the US (because they eat much less meat, among other things). They also don’t wear makeup, IIRC. Makeup seems to often be a carcinogen.
I don’t know what they are saying about vaccines, but I would expect that they are not greatly in favor of them.
I think Fast Eddy has too much of a knee-jerk reaction to religions. Even if a person doesn’t agree with one part of a particular religion, it doesn’t mean that the whole think is wrong/bad. We now have a competing governmental “religion.” In fact, there has been one all along. It is just getting stronger now.
Not all religions… I am partial to the sun god… at least I get something from that god….
The problem is not so much with the Adventists … it’s with referencing them in an attempt to discredit some of the best minds involved in virology… Adventists are most definitely delusional….and we are supposed to take their word over that of the likes of Malone… Yeadon… Bossche… Montagnier?
Who do you tap into next — Charles Manson… Beyonce…. Justin Bieber…. Joe Biden…???
Good article by Dr. Paul Craig Roberts on the Covid agenda.
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2021/08/09/the-covid-pandemic-is-a-money-making-hoax-and-perhaps-serves-darker-agendas/
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2021/08/09/dr-ryan-cole-explains-that-the-vaccine-causes-covid-illnesses/
https://youtu.be/pVQ29tfOvl8
https://youtu.be/PuRarrCEssA
https://off-guardian.org/wp-content/medialibrary/23-233333120_577484063407867_7119783494782191997_n.jpg
https://off-guardian.org/wp-content/medialibrary/25-234247984_1715775441943372_2695559112808984323_n.jpg
https://off-guardian.org/wp-content/medialibrary/02-109757074_1702398746591782_5606288375903844041_n.jpg
https://off-guardian.org/wp-content/medialibrary/01-227582373_2638902003081562_260350208213490029_n.jpg
Off topic but I think that might interest Gail and others: who remembers Philippe Lebon? He invented gas light at the end of the XVIIIth century, but not only. He also invented the first combustion engine a long time before we started to use fossil fuels. How?
The process is wood distillation. It’s important to know that there is a lot of energy in our forests, much more than we can imagine. Le Bon was mysteriously murdered the day when Napoleon was sacred, in 1804. (Notice that Napoleon was not only a military but he gathered many scientists and researchers, he brought with him in the Egypt campaign).
Le Bon’s invention was developed later in the years 1930-1940 when oil was missing.
We have forgotten many things. it is time to remember and start again the researches that the oil industry has destroyed.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippe_Lebon
A gasifier isnt’t particularly picky. Just stuff in some hydrocarbons (wood, peat, plastics, basically whatever), or just pure carbon, add some water and air.
Connect it to a distillation facility. And there you go.
Why make shit complicated?
Which is why I hang onto my old pickup truck. The wood gasifier fits nicely into the long bed and it had a simple carburetor not injectors. So, planning my route from Wonderland to Michigan involves locating suitable forests.
We need supply lines for any type of process. We need the necessary devices and we need trained workers to use the devices. None of this is easy to get.
I much agree Gail. This is why this is important to start locally in our own areas and find people to train. This is a topic I am working on.
The ideal temperature for distillation would be between 275 and 300 degrees Celsius. The yields can be improved adding catalysts like ether. Obviously we need to invest more in those researches.
https://sciences.gloubik.info/spip.php?article1966
Christopher Brenner, a healthy 25-year-old from Ohio, was hospitalized with severe heart inflammation after receiving his first dose of Moderna’s COVID vaccine.
In an exclusive interview with The Defender, Christopher’s mother, Deborah Brenner, said she was frustrated when cardiologists initially pretended everything with her son was fine, and later refused to acknowledge his heart inflammation was caused by the vaccine.
After receiving his first Moderna vaccine on July 22, Christopher developed a fever. Within five days he was experiencing chest pain so intense he was unable to sleep, his mother said.
“He was concerned,” Brenner said. “He thought maybe he had something that could be contagious at that point.”
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/25-year-old-christopher-brenner-myocarditis-moderna-vaccine/
I wonder how they get the doctors to do this….. Bribes? Threats?
The comments that follow that BBC story are worth a read
The comments and the tweets reported in the article are all well worth a read.
When the Bastille was stormed in 1789, it set off a revolution, or if you prefer, an orgy of lynching and tearing of faces, that went on for several years. The protest at the BBC is not quite in the same league yet, but there appears to be a real powder keg of anger being stored up, and all the people making those tweets as well as some who posted comments calling the protesters as a mob and idiots will now go close to the top of the list for if the guillotines are ever brought out—that is, if ADE doesn’t get them first.
Anti-Vaxxers Clash With Police In London As They Try To Storm Former BBC HQ, Presenters Tweet From Inside
https://deadline.com/2021/08/anti-vaxxers-clash-with-police-in-london-as-they-try-to-storm-former-bbc-hq-presenters-tweet-from-inside-1234811546/
Get vaccinated, even if you’ve had COVID before
Unvaccinated individuals who were previously infected with the coronavirus are more than twice as likely to get re-infected compared to individuals who were previously infected but received the vaccine earlier this year, according to a new CDC investigation.
While previous studies have shown that antibodies produced during an unvaccinated individual’s immune response to the virus offer some protection against reinfection, this new report supports the claim that vaccines offer more consistent and robust protection than natural antibodies alone.
https://www.popsci.com/health/cdc-says-get-vaccinated-after-covid/
hahahahahahahahahahaah
Over 5,000 new coronavirus cases confirmed Monday, as new limits mulled
Tally is highest since February, with number of deaths and serious cases also continuing to mount
https://www.timesofisrael.com/over-5000-new-coronavirus-cases-confirmed-monday-as-new-limits-mulled/
CDC adds Israel to highest-risk countries for catching Covid-19
Agency advises Americans to avoid travel to Israel unless absolutely necessary
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/cdc-israel-covid-risk-b1899691.html
Meanwhile … NZ continues to invite the CovIDIOTS to take the Injection … that is useless.
hahahahahaha…. I guess the CovIDIOTS are unaware of the Israel situation — or don’t care….
They just want that needle in the arm!!!!
How can there be 5,000 daily corona cases in highly-vaxed Israel (population 8 million) while there are only 10,000 to 15,000 daily cases in hardly-vaxed-at-all-apart-from-the-old-folks Japan with 125 million people (over 15 times the population of highly-vaxed Israel).
Mike? We need your uncommon sense and Vulcan logic to work this one out.
Could it be because Middle-eastern noses, being quite a bit bigger on the average than East Asian noses, are making it harder for those face masks to maintain a tight seal? Or do you think it’s the big bushy beards that many orthodox Jewish and Muslim men favor?
It couldn’t be that the vaccines are causing more Covid than they are preventing could it?
The sordid world of the rich!
After asking her to meet him for lunch, Black allegedly drove Ganieva to Teterboro Airport in New Jersey, where they boarded a private plane. Ganieva states that once they were on the jet, Black told her they were flying to Palm Beach to meet his “friend”, Jeffrey Epstein. Black instructed her not to tell anybody about the trip, even allegedly threatening to frame her for drug possession if she ever did.
“Black specifically used heroin as an example of an illicit drug that would be problematic for her if he planted it on her,” the lawsuit states.
When they arrived at Epstein’s mansion, a federal marshal was stationed outside in accordance with the terms of Epstein’s sweetheart deal with prosecutors back in 2008. Epstein was famously granted work-release privileges allowing him to leave the jail for 12 hours every day during the entire year-long term of his incarceration.
They were allegedly greeted by Epstein assistance Sarah Kellen, who was also quoted in the amended lawsuit.
“You have to understand that [Jeffrey and Leon] are sex addicts,” Kellen said, according to the lawsuit. “You have to let them do whatever they want with you, and you have to let them be with multiple sexual partners if that’s what they want. They are very powerful, and if you don’t do what they want you to do, there will be consequences that I do not want for you.”
When Ganieva refused to sleep with Epstein, Black looked “annoyed”. He eventually dismissed her from Epstein’s bedroom, and later, during the flight back to New Jersey, he refused to speak with her.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/he-takes-care-little-girls-leon-blacks-ex-mistress-shares-explosive-new-details-about
The Arch-druid presents a hypothesis on ADE:
Stage Nine: Things Get Serious
All of a sudden, as a result, it was no longer enough to vaccinate 70% of the US population. Everyone without exception had to get vaccinated—if everyone gets the vaccine, after all, it will be easier to claim that what’s happening is a nasty new variant rather than vaccine-driven ADE, since nobody will be able to point out that the unvaccinated aren’t getting it. All of a sudden, officials dropped the (inaccurate) claim that the vaccines keep you from getting Covid-19. New outbreaks flared in which most people who got sick had been fully vaccinated; stories surfaced in the media about how strange it was that so many people were getting really nasty summer colds; the labor shortage somehow just kept getting worse and other shortages snowballed, but if you suggested that it was because too many people were sick you could count on being shouted down. Authorities began to talk earnestly about how a new variant might show up soon that would kill a third of the people who caught it. Under normal circumstances, there’s no way they could know that in advance. It makes perfect sense, however, if the vaccines have been found to cause serious ADE and they already have a good idea of what the fatality rate will be.
This is where we are as I write this. If my hypothesis is right, here’s what we can expect.
Stage Ten: Hoping for a Miracle
As ADE becomes more common, breakthrough infection clusters will pop up with increasing frequency, and the higher the percentage of the population in that region is vaccinated, the worse they will be. Variants will be blamed for this. Word of the imminent crisis will spread through the upper levels of society, however, causing increasingly frantic and irrational behavior, until it becomes next to impossible to get anything done if it depends on the government or big corporations. Medical laboratories will scramble to find a way to counteract ADE, though that’s been tried for decades now without success. Meanwhile the people who refuse to get vaccinated won’t budge no matter how much furious rhetoric and punitive policy gets dumped on them. Once this becomes clear, authorities will insist that everyone but a few holdouts has been vaccinated, in the fond hope that people will believe them one more time.
Stage Eleven: Into The Endgame
When ADE becomes too widespread to ignore and people begin to die in significant numbers, expect governments to proclaim the arrival of the predicted new hyper-lethal variant and impose a new round of shutdowns, mask mandates, and the like. The media will insist that the people who are dying are all unvaccinated as long as they can get away with it; pay attention to the vaccination status and health outcomes of people you know for a reality check. Unless some way of stopping ADE-enhanced infections can be found in a hurry, medical systems will buckle under the caseload and triage will become the order of the day. How soon this will happen, if it does, is impossible to say in advance. It’s also impossible to know in advance how soon it will become clear that the vaccines are responsible—or just how violent a backlash against the political and economic establishment this could provoke.
https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/140421.html
But if loads of people are getting sick/dying along the road to the End Game… surely that would collapse BAU and the End Game becomes one of Ripping Off Faces.
For instance… if say 20% of those involved in the supply chain could not work… we’d surely be Korowiczed…. If 20% of the people involved in finance were vapourized… I think the system would seize up within days.
I wonder if the process needs to be more rapid — as with Marek’s… rather than ADE… one reason for this is I think that there will always be significant numbers of people who will never get the Injection … so a deadly variant would quickly wipe out both vaxxed and unvaxxed…
The MSM would have footage of big numbers of dead bodies to broadcast (not just an actor lying in the street in Wuhan… real dead bodies) — inciting extreme (and justified) terror…. which convinces people to lock themselves down …. fearful of their neighbours… unwilling to even go to the grocery store (of course the shops will empty quickly anyway as the supply chain ruptures)….
And those that don’t die from the virus… do not hunt the children for food (because the children might be infected…) so the survivors slowly starve to death.
If this is the way it’s meant to play out … I am not overly excited about starving to death… and I won’t get the Injection (it would make me feel too much like a CovIDIOT doing that)….
Where is that jug of Fentanyl Ardern? I’ve got some packets of cherry kool-aid (purple would be a giveaway) that I’ll mix with vodka … and float away…
Or better still… I’d like a nuke dialled into my coordinates… I’d like the timing to be a surprise…
Whatever the plan is … we’ll all either be dead… or wish we were… the clock ticks closer to midnight ….
I thought that was a very good summary. To be clear, his first 9 stages are a review of what he suspects were the actual events up to date, and 10 and 11 are predictions.
I think he’s in the ballpark of how bad it will get. He thinks ADE will be the major problem. Variants may keep appearing every few months or so, and that will make the problem unsolvable.
He’s probably correct that there will be a massive attempted coverup of ADE.
There is only one qest left: Get rid of the control group.
Interesting! John Michael Greer may be right.
It’s Team Yeadon vs Team Bossche…. who will win?
Mother Earth wins either way.
Good riddance vermin!!!
This clears up a lot of misunderstandings about what works and what doesn’t in dealing with the ‘Rona.
A doctor speaks out at community meeting. He disputes, and some would say refutes, the MSM, CDC and NIH talking points regarding the treatment of Covid-19. Dr. Dan Stock of McCordsville, Indiana spoke recently at a public meeting of the Mr. Vernon School Board concerning a proposed update to its health and safety protocols, which include masking and treating exposed vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals differently—Just like in these enlightened times, we are not supposed to treat women, blacks, Jjews, Mmoslems, ggays, ttrannies, the bblind, the ddeaf, the ddumb, the ddumber, the ddemented, the ccrippled, llepers, eepileptics, the differently opinionated, and those with halitosis.
Main points:
• The measures Mt. Vernon has implemented and is considering adding are not useful. Moreover, the Indiana Department of Health and CDC recommendations are “contrary to the rules of science.”
• Coronavirus and other respiratory virus particles are small enough to go through masks,
• Vaccines will not be effective against COVID-19.Thy don’t prevent infection, just symptoms,
• The virus is on the rise in the middle of summer, a time when respiratory viral syndromes are typically at their lowest. During the COVID-19 outbreak last month in Provincetown, Massachusetts, the majority of the individuals infected were vaccinated
First two minutes of Dr. Stock’s 6six-minute talk:
“It is hard to believe that we are 18 months into this and still having a problem, and I would suggest the reason we’re having a problem is because we are doing things that are not useful, and we’re getting getting our sources of information from the State Board of Health and the CDC, who actually don’t bother to read science before they do this.
“I am a functional XXX physician, that means I’m trained in immunology and inflammation regulation. Everything being recommended by the CDC and the State Board of Health is actually contrary to all the rules of science.
“So the think that you should know about coronaviruses and all other respiratory viruses: They are spread by aerosol particles which are small enough to go through every mask, by the way. The literature that supports all of that is in a flash drive that we’ve present to you; it’s been given to hte Secretary. In fact, it quotes three studies sponsored by the NIH to that exact fact. The CDC and the NIH have chose to ignore science that they have paid to have done.
“That is why you keep struggling with this is because you cannot make these viruses go away. The natural history of all respiratory viruses is that they circulate all year long, waiting for the immune system to get sick through the winter, or become deranged, as has happened recently with these vaccines, and then cause symptomatic disease. Because they cannot be filtered out and they have animal reservoirs.
“This is an important point. No one can make this virus go away. The CDC has managed to convince everyone that we can handle this like we did smallpox, where we could make the virus go away. Smallpox had no animal reservoirs. The only thing it learned to infect was humans. That’s why we were able to make that virus go away. That will not happen with this, any more than it will happen with influenza, the common cold, respiratory syncytial virus, adenoviral respiratory syndrome or anything else that has animal reservoirs.
“So the reason you can’t do this is because you are trying to do something that has already been tried and can’t be done.”
+ + + + +
“So you cannot stop spread, you cannot make these numbers that you’ve planned on get better by doing any of the things that you’re doing, Because that is the nature of viral respiratory pathogens. And you can’t prevent it with a vaccine because they don’t do the very thing you’re wanting them to do. And you will be chasing this through the remainder of your life until you recognize the Centers for Disease Control and the Indiana State Board of Health are giving you very bad scientific guidance.”
Link to video:
https://tv.gab.com/channel/standonprinciples/view/dr-destroys-the-entire-covid-narrative-611132777b022aa59dd65777
Very good. I think COVID-19 has human reservoirs as well, with so many cases without symptoms and located in countries without much testing.
This might interest you concerning this idea Gail.
https://rumble.com/vku9kr-covid-vaccines-saviour-or-death-august-2021-global-edition-w-bonus-content.html
Apologies if already posted, but a few of the points raised chime with your own thoughts and I’d appreciate your thoughts on the country graphs at the start. Latency starts around the 40:00 mark.
Interesting! I watched the first few minutes and the part from 40:00 onward. I think it did a good job of explaining how the vaccines could lead to a rise in cases, if they somehow get the immune system to overly focus on one particular type of virus, and let down their guard against other virus variants, which may already be lurking in the body (or in the air, with the next person you talk to).
They do talk about “good health” being important. I would have brought up Vitamin D in particular. Reasonable body weight is a big issue as well.
Sorry Gail, I should have been clearer.
21-23 minutes is the U.S, which leads straight on to vitamin D and particularly UV-B. This seems to be the main point they want to make and reminded me of your everyone around in a swimsuit comment.
So many easily obtainable health benefits that cost little to nothing, but blanket silence from health authorities.
Of course, many here would love Dr Stock to be totally correct and so will not examine his statements. However, there are those who have looked at his points and refuted at least some of them (for example, the virus particles are not expelled separately but in groups within aerosols and respiratory droplets, so don’t pass through all masks). Dr Stock sounds very authoritative but I’ve come across many people who sound that way but what comes out isn’t always valid. Do check his statements.
I bet a properly mounted FFP3 mask cuts the viral load to trace amounts, basically enabling the body to mount a defense before it spirals out of control into a cytokine storm.
This is of course crucially important for people with weaker or compromised immunity.
So yes, garbage the surgical and cloth masks. Slap on a proper respirator if things get dicy. For that extra antiviral support, shove some PVP-I up the nostrils and gargle with, for example, Nyodex. Plug in that $70 USD IKEA HEPA air purifier while at it.
That’s how to crack an airborne pandemic into oblivion in no time flat.
But hey, we’re obviously supposed to have a “pandemic”, what do I know. Perhaps it is for the better.
I’m just a simple engineer solving problems that perhaps shouldn’t be solved. Figuring shit out just is irresistible.
In the mean time I’m chilling to tunes in a tragicomedy. 🎶
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How many properly mounted FFP3 masks are there in the world? How many people are there in the world? Is the number of masks less than the number of people? Do the masks come in all sizes, including for small children and infants?
Is this plan going to work?
There is only one way to find out.
Commencing the plan together with instructional videos.
It isn’t rocket science to slap a virus diaper on the face and squeeze the metal band so that the respirator seals around the runny snout.
The strategy is to go low-tech when the enemy dabbles with high-tech bio weaponry, while the tactic is to whip out the mechanical filtration devices, proven el cheapo pharmaceuticals and providone iodine.
Then it’s only a matter of grabbing the popcorn and wait for the “flatten the curves” to slam right back to background noise levels in a month or two.
Furthermore there is no need for wearing respirators when there is few people around. I thoroughly despise the ‘shoulders being jabbed’ and face mask virtue signaling on the MOARon infested social media platforms. As for nursing home staffers and health care workers, that goes without saying.
Clear is that the cloth and surgical masks, vaxxes and lockdowns works shite. That outrageous and obvious incompetence should have been shot down a long time ago, that is, if obliterating the pandemic is “the plan”?
As a positive side effect; I’m literally sick and tired of these perpetually circulating influenzas and colds. Some moron decides it is a wise idea to go to work after delivering a feverish snot factory to kindergarten while participating in the vanities and fripperies of IC.
How about stay the f**k at home? Realistically, nobody really depend on you, after all; the grave yards are full of “indispensable” people.
Pretty please.
Covid “fixed” that idiocy in a hurry. Yay!
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Is he a Creationist?
Thanks for the warning. But some of us proceed on the assumption that everybody’s statements require checking. We take nothing on trust. We don’t accept the validity of anything experts tell us solely on the grounds that they are experts. We are skeptical and try not to fool ourselves. We do not believe in science. We are aware of our cognitive deficiencies and attempt to avoid confirmation bias.
What some of us are trying to do is bring to wider attention viewpoints that go against the orthodoxy of the Government as Your Single Source of Truth.
Don’t forget the 7th day adventists…. a great source
Eugenics is not something new. It is there for billions of years. It is called “survival of the best” (used to be called survival of the fittest.
I call it, “Survival of the best adapted.”
I’m thinking of it as “survival of the trivially adaptable” which also serves as a fitness metric.
It is common to misinterpret fitness functions as blatant brute force opportunism, I.e. survival of the strongest, as in the animal kingdom.
In human civilization I’m thinking productive evolution is more of a figurative habitat expansion and creative destruction process.
When a paradigm no longer serves – let it burn. 🔥
Clinging to obsolete and dysfunctional cruft seem in direct contradiction of evolutionary processes in a sapient and sentient species.
Phoenix rises by default if we let it.
How to reduce the world pop to 50m.
When credit system fails all commerce fails.
Which means nobody will buy or sell anything.
Which means, basically, only those who own farmland/vertical hydroponics facility;farm over dirigibles, cloud, or whatever; or those who own fishing fleets will eat, and the rest won’t.
Since few people have tradable goods after a few weeks, no trade occurs and everyone just drops dead after the period of looting and cannibalism ends.
it will take years, 14?, to die down.
Hey Gerard … just a quick update since you are so interested in what FE does all day…. after 3 hours of skiing… He just had lunch (salad and two soft boiled eggs and a kiwi)….
And because Fast Eddy has no other obligations (i.e. He has f789 all else to do so why not)… He will take a nap … 1500 Horse Power needs some down time…
Depending on His post nap state of mind… he may call the Covid Hotline to taunt them….
And a kiwi?
so you have started the cannibalism already ;).
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Pentagon will require members of the U.S. military to get the COVID-19 vaccine by Sept. 15, according to a memo obtained by The Associated Press. That deadline could be pushed up if the vaccine receives final FDA approval or infection rates continue to rise.
“I will seek the president’s approval to make the vaccines mandatory no later than mid-September, or immediately upon” licensure by the Food and Drug Administration “whichever comes first,” Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin says in the memo to troops, warning them to prepare for the requirement. “I will not hesitate to act sooner or recommend a different course to the President if l feel the need to do so.”
Associate Press .com
a couple of times recently I’ve seen comments that speculate that the (US) true number of vaccinated people is quite a bit lower than the official numbers reported.
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Me too. It’s as if US officials are no more accurate in counting numbers of jabbed individuals than they are at counting election ballots.
What’s your own feeling about numbers jabbed based on your personal experiences talking with the people around you?
here in the northeast USA, official numbers say about 2/3rds are vaxed, and I think that’s somewhat believable, based on my limited interactions with people in my community.
but I rarely ask people their status, so even 1/3rd vaxed would seem possible to me.
certainly I have low trust in gov stats, and if there is any variance from reality, I’m sure it would be that gov is reporting numbers higher than reality.
I haven’t seen a source yet that makes a clear case.
I think some confusion is from those who received 1 dose vs 2. I’m in the Northeast of US where more people opted to take it and most of my co-workers have told me they got it. Work is asking for vaccination status which give some perks and HR even has a pie chart they update with a goal to vaccinate everyone. Has been stuck at 55% fully vaccinated for a while. My impression is most of the office workers are vaccinated while less than half of the factory workers are. Several of my co-workers said they felt really terrible afterwards, 1 older woman had bad headaches for weeks, no one that I know of has died. HR sometimes will email about a confirmed c19 case on campus to rattle everyone but any more detailed info is protected so no way to know if they even had symptoms or who it was. They require testing to return to work if you’ve left the state within 10 days.
The uncle Andy situation is blowing up. This is about as bad as it could possibly be for Andy and the ‘royal family’. He will be forced to give evidence that is liable to be made public or else to be found guilty in his absence.
> Breaking news: Prince Andrew is SUED by Virginia Roberts in lawsuit claiming he sexually abused her at Jeffrey Epstein’s Manhattan mansion and other locations when she was under 18
Prince Andrew was sued in New York City on Monday by Virginia Roberts, who accuses him of sexually abusing her in 2001, when she was 17. Roberts accused the Duke of York of battery and intentional infliction of emotional distress in the lawsuit filed in federal court. The lawsuit – filed on Roberts’ 38th birthday – claims that she was forced to have sex with Andrew three times on the orders of the pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. It lists Roberts as the plaintiff and the defendant as ‘Prince Andrew, Duke of York a/k/a Andrew Albert Christian Edward’ as the defendant.
The lawsuit claims that ‘Prince Andrew intentionally committed battery by sexually assaulting Plaintiff when she was a minor. ‘On multiple occasions Prince Andrew intentionally touched (Roberts) in an offensive and sexual manner without her consent’. Under the section of the lawsuit that deals with the formal allegation of intentional infliction of emotional distress, the lawsuit is withering about the Duke. It says: ‘Prince Andrew’s actions, described above, constitute extreme and outrageous conduct that shocks the conscience.
‘Prince Andrew’s sexual abuse of a child who he knew was a sex-trafficking victim, and when he was approximately 40 years old, goes beyond all possible bounds of decency and is intolerable in a civilized community’.
The lawsuit claims that Andrew was one of the ‘powerful men’ who Epstein loaned Roberts out to for sex. The document accuses the Duke of ‘publicly feigning ignorance about the scope of Epstein’s sex-trafficking operation and sympathy for Epstein’s victims’ then refusing to cooperate with the FBI.
She claims that the first time she was forced to have sex with Andrew was at the London townhouse of Ghislaine Maxwell, Epstein’s alleged madam. The second time, in early 2001 was at Epstein’s New York mansion. The lawsuit states: ‘During this encounter, Maxwell forced Plaintiff, a child, and another victim to sit on Prince Andrew’s lap as Prince Andrew touched her. ‘During his visit to New York, Prince Andrew forced Plaintiff to engage in sex acts against her will’. The third incident was on Epstein’s private island in the Caribbean.
During each incident, Roberts was ‘compelled by express or implied threats by Epstein, Maxwell and/or Prince Andrew to engage in sexual acts’ with the Duke. Roberts ‘feared death or physical injury to herself or another and other repercussions for disobeying Epstein, Maxwell, and Prince Andrew due to their powerful connections, wealth, and authority’, it is claimed. Andrew allegedly had sex with Roberts knowing she was a victims of sex trafficking, it is claimed. The Duke also knew her age from ‘communications with Epstein and Maxwell’.
A source said: ‘This could be devastating for Andrew. If he chooses to fight it and is deposed [forced to give evidence], then those depositions could end up being made public. If he ignores it, he could be found guilty in absentia which would be a public relations disaster.’
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9878075/Prince-Andrew-SUED-Virginia-Roberts-claiming-sexually-abused-Jeffrey-Epsteins.html
Do you think Andy will be asked to give an oral deposition, like the ones Bill allegedly gave to Monica?
What cracked me up was Fergie describing Andrew amidst the initial furore, without apparent irony, as a “thoroughly good, very gentle man” when clearly he ranks amongst the most spoilt, bullying and thoroughly crass individuals on the planet.
Anyone who tries to defend uncle Andy in any way needs their head examined – bar his lawyer.
Prince Andrew is entitled to trial by a jury of his peers.
I guess that means twelve princess and princesses who haven’t been exposed to the salacious details of the case on the tabloids.
We can’t have commoners sitting in judgement on royalty now, can we? that just would not do.
All hail the royal/aristocracy “bloodlines”. The certainly understands how to wield civilizations to disaster while spreading their “depositions”. Allow me to:
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Wait… There’s more…
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Just send in Vikings to finish the job.
Isn’t he already guilty. How much money can she squeeze from that “royal” “bloodline” halfwitted schmuck realistically?
Sorry to say this, but peoples which had little to do with the advance of civilization won’t be allowed share the fruits of it.
A very politically incorrect book is “Human Accomplishment” by Charles Murray, available at public domain.
Tl , dr, if we cut out Europe , draw a line from , say, Hamburg and Trieste, and throw away the rest (except maybe the eastern seaboard of USA), the world did not miss too much.
I’d frankly rather live in the rest of the world.
Farming as it goes forward, ignoring weather:
A possible view: owing land good, operation of machines not so good, many decisions on fertilizer, seeds and marketing are now made off the farm. Looks to me like it is good to own the land, large multiple areas to have something where rain falls, seems to me a guy named Gates is in this game.
Reference to JD:
https://www.deere.com/en/our-company/news-and-announcements/news-releases/2021/corporate/2021aug5-bear-flag-robotics/?sf148560089=1
Some of this is going open source, roll your own so to speak:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwk3qzaIcCU&t=10s
Capital/labor ratio keeps getting bigger, or labor’s share smaller.
The game is a very fast one now.
Dennis L.
A population of less than 50 million, preferably the less the better, will enjoy the fruits of these advances.
rah rah rah. Perhaps “they” can keep the mass food production going for another couple of decades.
I likely won’t see the 2030s but that’s totally okay by me.
some survivors of the 2020s might still have plenty enough food.
The mass won’t eat. Period
so “won’t eat” = dead. I don’t see any evidence yet of the world population shrinking to 50 million anytime soon.
The question, of course, is how long the supply chain supporting all of our mega-farms can be supported. I am sure that these machines need repairs from time to time. Getting along without won’t work. I think you have raised this issue as well. Also, will Johne Deere be able to source enough semi-conductor chips to keep its production going?
At some point, this whole system will break. But it isn’t clear when.
(I did notice when I was in Minnesota the last few days a moderate amount of rain while I was there. Perhaps this will help one of the problems.)
Let’s step back a bit:
We had the experimental vaccines for SARS in 2003(?). They showed not to be too effective in animals. Let us assume that these problems have been solved.
Has anybody ever ( I mean really?) done any study on anything with a booster shot after 6 months ? Really? I mean really?
May I kindly ask what the progression for “experimental” is? I think I do not have that in my mental concepts but it really sounds like a cool idea.
the mRNA vaccine technology was “experimental”, and the experiment FAILED!
bhwwwwwaahhaahaaahaaahahaaahaaahaaahaahaaa!!!!!!!
perhaps mRNA would work on other viruses(?), but not on toxic spike protein coronaviruses.
Shall we also assume that we figured out a way for humans to pass through the deadly radiation of the Van Allan Belts and land on the moon too?
We are being told that the side effects of the booster shots is similar to those of the second shots. This means that they are significantly higher than with first shots.
Will normdunc play … Covid Injection Roulette?
Or will they sulk in the Hall of Shame … unwilling to admit they were wrong … and apologize…
What amazes me is that people are willing to get the Injection given the Booster story is in the MSM…
I keep asking the Hotline when the Booster will be available – I tell them I want to skip the first 2 and go right to that …. and even then … if 1 and 2 failed… why would 3 succeed?
We know why — because they are S ____D.
A new race of humans , efficient, merciless and spacefaring, will come forth.
They will stop at nothing killing a cluster of poor people.
It is evolution and social darwinism.
Lack of oil won’t stop them since they will just cordon off the poorer areas.
Babies’ heads will be smashed for fun, while old people will be kicked to death. A massive depopulation of the world, necessary to become a spacefaring civilization, will take place.
Unlimited human experiment, like done in China , will be the norm to the poor who will sell themselves so their families will eat one more day.
It might be horrible, but not that so for today’s winners who will enjoy all the tech in Civilization 2.0 without energy restrictions since it won’t take too much energy to maintain a pop of maybe 50 million in total, mostly living in today’s major cities (and you know I am not talking about Lagos, Karachi or Sao Paulo).
sci-fi.
That has been tried, albeit with no spaceships. Vikings I think they were called. You might wonder how much they cared about raycissm and maintaining patriarchal hierarchy?
The thought process of an Iron Age Scandinavian usually went something like this: If it looks that it can swing a sword with some fortitude; in the ship it goes.
Why make shit complicated? That’s just so… Bourgeoise… Or with other words, aristocracy infidelity leakage. 🤢🤮
50mill is not enough to perpetuate genetic diversity and evolutionary impetus for the species. It is more or less dead end in the long term. 500mill is the number we need to be able to weather any events of random character thus perpetuating the species in the long term.
What? This is quite wrong.
Read about the genetic diversity of humans.
100 people from parts of Africa have more diversity than the rest of the world combined.
Perhaps i was too vague, but 50mil is too small pool to guarantee longterm survival. Just one random event of say bad crops or bad flu can revert the population dynamic towards obliteration or in 2-4 generations all individuals could be suffering from all kinds of genetic diseases if the initial 50mill pool is not very carefully selected. The point is that 50mill is not enough to guarantee survival in case bad things started to happen. Of course they can go ferral and let the malthusian pressure works things out but I think that Industrial complex civilization is what we are discussing.
Good point! We need a whole lot of specialists to keep anything like today’s economy operating. Many roads and bridges need to be repaired also.
Exactly. Complexity is what makes civilization. And unfortunately complexity is a function of numbers and the possible permutations in the context of those numbers. Without the necessary numbers complexity can’t emerge and without complexity we are stuck at hunting and gathering.
I’m thinking the same.
Since we are for the most part clueless about the number of single points of failure in IC, then it would be unusually moronic to whack real “essential workers” in a hurry to “trim” the excesses.
Say for example a few too many licensed underwater welders. Or pressure vessel maintainers with 20+ years of experience.
The amount of unknown unknowns must be staggering for an endeavor into some eugenics craziness.
How about cutting back some 99% of the waste before considering tampering with a highly nonlinear and chaotic system?
Let’s go oats and bicycles. And you don’t hear me complaining about that, now do you? 👍
I’m not understanding the problem if I’m completely honest. 🤔
I see that Brent and WTI are both down about 4%. Brent is under $68 per barrel. WTI is a a little over $65 per barrel.
My price theory seems to be right, so far.
Looking at an article, part of the concern is about China’s economy slowing. They imported less oil last month. Coal and aluminum prices also fell.
your theory has been correct since late 2014, so 7 years of data is a good start (for the doubters out there).
Yes I doubted you 😥! It’s a sign that economies are not doing well .
I think it’s a sign that we are in the economic Endgame.
commodity producers (and many other producers/industries) are having difficulty in making a good profit on their investments. Profits on investing in bonds are below zero when adjusted for soaring inflation.
it doesn’t seem like this can continue for more than another 2 decades or so.
Didn’t the price drop (this time) because Russia and SA agreed to increase production the other day ? It may be as simple as that.
However in the long run, the ending of surplus energy is choking off the excess fluff in society. That spells hardship for many.
If everything goes according to plan, the 4th industrial revolution takes place, and basically anyone who is under the IQ level of , say, 130 will be culled.
From personal testimony I see that mainly academics and higher educated people tend to take the shots. I hope that nobody bets to be on the wrong side here.
I don’t think it really matters, in the end Mother Earth wins by default.
Furthermore I don’t think we’re ready to make these horrific calls as a species.
Within temptation is truth and I am out of the reproductive game by own volition. So one might suspect there is some selfish stuff going on in the depths of the subconscious of those with offspring.
I assume we are “curating” the species and not acting opportunistic, rite?
MOAR! Yay!
Within temptation is truth.
The rapacious primate isn’t scalable!
A species not capable of dealing with overpopulation in a humane manner isn’t trustworthy.
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Just send it!
The deluge 2.0, or is it 5.0?
🌍💥☄️☄️☄️
It’s the only way to be sure.
Some really smart people do not take the shots
You are right, all the white collars around me are jabbed, the blue ones much less. I’m not sure if there is a correlation with IQ.
Real workers are used to being screwed, an certainly on the look-out for it, and therefore more cautious, perhaps?
Thank God I’m just a humble manual worker, and suspicious of that there needle…..
“Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inert, so hopelessly dependent on the system that they will fight to protect it.”
– Morpheus / The Matrix
So a population of some 2.3% will keep IC operational? I’m sure these smart asses got some friends and family that isn’t as intellectually capable.
These fast-track eugenics programs seem a bit underwhelming and outright atrocious. I’m quite there are a few omissions and problems lurking in there.
For example if these smart ass kids have offspring with, say, 110 in IQ?
Sterilization?
However, don’t get me wrong. I like the idea but the devil is in the detail. And within selfish temptation lies truth.
Parents IQ doesn’t corelate with their offspring’s IQ. My dad IQ is 125, my mom 132 and mine is 158. Most of the real geniuses have been born in not very rich and somewhat poor families of not very smart parents and most geniuses kids tend to be pretty normal with IQs ranging in the 100-130 range.
Yes, genetics and epigenetics is a bitch who won’t yield to some simpleton eugenics programs. I guess most of the IQ scale is determined on what kind of thought processes that you for some unfathomable reason find amusing. For example, doing puzzles and maths instead of sublimely wielding a TIG welding machine or, say, bending a motorcycle around corners like a god of dynamics.
Worst case scenario is breeding programs with some fundamental flaws that is unable to deliver the 180+ IQ geniuses that truly can change the course of a civilization,
It is generally a rather dimwitted idea to imagine being more capable than nature.
One simple rule:
LEAVE IT THE F*** ALONE.
’nuff said.
Yes, totally agree with that rule. As for the standard IQ measurements they are solely built on the individual’s ability to find and recognize patterns. Lots of aspects of intelligence are discarded in the metrics we apply. I have rubbed shoulders with some corporate scions and board members and most of them are very emotionally intelligent so they are very good in manipulating others and make them to do their bidding.
IQ? What’s that?
Let’s take a peek under the bonnet into the Mind of Fast Eddy
https://youtu.be/3vcNIkU3ZTI?t=206
How much alcohol do you need to ingest to produce the same amount of horsepower, fire and fury?
Yes, these engines are “green”. 🤣
(I love these bonkers top fuel engines)
norm:
https://youtu.be/IRhVVaFuaDs?t=36
I noted a few blown head gaskets and conrods leaving the safe space of the engine blocs.
I wonder if that’s what happened to Normal? Too much boost pressure perhaps? 🤔
dunc (no wonder he’s not with us any longer)
https://youtu.be/3oDxGZI_V74?t=58
Sweet Jesus, I’m safe! The bad news is, I will be lonely.
Fear not, you got the OFW clique at your disposal. Mostly white collar folks here I assume.
Besides, having a few skilled craftsman readily available is much better than having to endure self entitled sjw sanctimonious hypocrites, eh?
Most intellectuals are pretty much useless anyway. So good riddance to them. 👋
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so all the local grunt laborers trash collectors etc will be 130+ IQ.
what a plan!
No, they are all automated
sci-fi.
“No, they are all automated”
With what energy?
Didn’t Fast Eddy parent the Sun Pipe?
Rest assured that’s only a few minor engineering trivialities left before it is operating in full swing.
I am guessing that I4 is incompatible with energetic decline.
Arguably breeding is practically ‘eugenic’ as people tend to marry within their own socio-economic class, which is practically caste breeding. Aristocracy will tend to marry aristocracy, upper classes each other, manual workers each other and so on.
Modern capitalist economies accumulate a huge population to grow GDP – workers are economic substrata. Different societies produce different populations, largely on socio-economic grounds. Today it is what it is today, and of course it is liable to be different in the future.
I am not sure that I see the problem. ‘Overpopulation’ can be argued but that is liable to be addressed by energetic conditions anyway, which is sort of how it always is. Likely we will maintain smaller caste populations in the future, which is how it always tends to be.
Social intervention is always a possibility but energetic, material and social conditions generally keep the population ‘fit’. Today may be a bit an exception but that is coming to an end anyway. It is probably all good.
Classic ‘eugenics’ is a 19th c. bourgeois ideology that was aimed at the solution to perceived problems in a modern industrial, welfare context, to maintain a population that is better fitted to capitalism – but that is coming to an end anyway. Capitalism solved its own problems, today with open borders.
Nietzsche at times argues that it is all about the ‘conditions’ that produce men. If you want to produce different sorts of men then you have to place their production under different conditions that demand a different approach. He has a sort of ideological structure analogous to that of Marx. The energetic and social conditions of breeding are liable to radically change soon anyway. As such we find ourselves in a different historical situation to classic ‘eugenicists’ who simply wanted to improve a capitalist population.
> Not to make men “better,” not to preach morality to them in any form, as if “morality in itself,” or any ideal kind of man, were given; but to create conditions that require stronger men who for their part need, and consequently will have, a morality (more clearly: a physical-spiritual discipline) that makes them strong! TWTP 981
He was at times pretty cool about the growth of the herd as a substrata for higher man.
> The same conditions that hasten the evolution of the herd animal also hasten the evolution of the leader animal. TWTP 956
At other times he openly speaks of getting rid of most people and of human improvement as a leisure or artistic project.
At other times he openly speaks of getting rid of most people and of human improvement as a leisure or artistic project.
Fast Eddy supports the genocide of DelusiSTANIS…. He is in alignment with Freddy except that Freddy did not use that term to describe the feeble of mind
Anyone with a cluster of five consonants in their surname can be forgiven for being a bit neurotic.
As a young boy, Nietzsche would have suffered traumatic shame at not being able to spell his own name. This is what fueled his lifelong quest to become a superman—faster than a speeding bullet; more powerful than a locomotive; able to leap over tall chasms of logic at a single bound. Is it a bird? Is it a plane?
The immediate cause of his nervous breakdown at the age of forty-four was witnessing a man flogging a horse in the Piazza Carlo Alberto in Turin and then trying to intervene to stop it. Possibly, the man then assaulted him with red kryptonite.
Nietzsche never recovered his former intellectual spark, but for the final twelve years of his life was an invalid, almost simple minded, as well as a much more pleasant character to get along with. The arrogant, passionate, domineering philosopher contemptuous of the masses had been “reduced”, or “elevated” if you prefer, or if we are going to avoid ethical judgements on this issue, “transformed” into somebody in the mold of Forest Gump.
His personality is part of why people find him interesting. He is the most popular and influential philosopher. ‘English’ philosophers like Russel and Wittgenstein simply bore everyone to death. Hume is interesting.
The principle is simple; never go full retard with your ideas and ideals. Some MOARon might gravely misunderstand what you mean and launch an eugenics program.
Nietzsche went over the top straight into psychosis trying to “fix” the world. Oh; when will we learn to stop fixing that which isn’t broken?
How many philosophers does it take until they figure out that they got no clue what they mean and blather about?
I bow down to Mother Earth and give vow of fidelity to the processes which she governs without effort and by default.
✋☺️🤚
While a bit extreme.. I do have an affinity for his basic message which can be distilled into ‘don’t be a snowflake, never read Huffington and refrain from singing Koombaya’….
I read Atlas Shrugged (and the Fountainhead) in high school … and while Ayn Rand was a crazed bird (who I understand ended up on welfare)… there was some value in her message…. apparently Freddy was a big influence on her…
The Elders without a doubt were raised on a steady diet of Freddy, Machiavelli, and Rand… so was Spock… there is no room for wishy washy BS when you are in a dog fight … when you run a global empire… kindness … is weakness….
Those who tap into their repressed (by faux religious and/or cultural morality) animal instincts … get to run the show…
It’s not something people want to hear… but it is the truth … and it’s why we live large… and huge numbers live like this
http://kwtri4b8r0ep8ho61118ipob.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/iStock-1130144921.jpg
My spidey senses tells me that going numb might be problematic.
It is simpler to operate by default until some obnoxious bullshit impinges on your right to life.
“The same conditions that hasten the evolution of the herd animal also hasten the evolution of the leader animal. ”
Which leader of any dignity wants to lead the herd? No real Samurai or Viking bothers with spineless yes-men. Let’s be hygienic here, that’s obviously the job for corrupt politicans and halfwit narrative peddlers.
Mother Earth watches with contempt at herding around dimwits. The choice of leader among real men and women is in strategic and tactic thought process capability.
Ole Fridrich was clever man who was able to perceive epigenetics and its power in the molding of a man.
Haha, exactly. I’ll bet his tune would be different today.
We’re all bent in a certain way within it is a epigenetic positive/negative reinforcement cycle and the fundament of Homo sapiens sapiens genetics.
A bit of a natural “knack” for “stuff” plus the reinforcement from parents and society. Within a decade and you’re in a STEM program/job chucking out robots, electronics, AI code and papers.
It is about time to get into that high-tech civilization. The growth in complexity must prevail.
“If we all reacted the same way, we’d be predictable, and there’s always more than one way to view a situation. What’s true for the group is also true for the individual. It’s simple: overspecialize, and you breed in weakness. It’s slow death.”
— Major Motoko Kusanagi
I know several former programmers who specialized in languages that are rarely used now. In fact, being up to date in version 2.0 of a programming language is not helpful if the current version is 9.0.
Exactly, complexity requires specialisation. That said, it is all likely headed for redundancy anyway. It presuppose a global dissipative structure that may longer be viable.
His own concept is of a ‘storing up of force’ over many generations that conditions personality, perspective and personal worth – one is a quantum of power and nothing else. He emphasises the important of inheritance and breeding, which he insists on calling ‘blood’ as the basis of ‘nobility’.
Social conditioning is very often something to be overcome so that one may become oneself. In turn one may change society so that it will condition the breeding of men differently. He wanted to breed a ‘new aristocracy’.
His emphasis is on inheritance rather than on an adaptation of the individual to the social environment, which he considers to be often a subversion of one’s true nature.
He is more interested in changing society in the first place, and how it breeds people, than in adapting to it as it is – though he sometimes has an ‘all will be well in the end’ approach to modern social tendencies which is itself quite appealing.
I found these amusing bell-curve images:
https://flic.kr/p/2mgfMdM
https://flic.kr/p/2mgjPbD
It is interesting that it mentions the importance of exercise. I take a four mile walk per day in the early evening. Gail also mentioned the importance of a good night’s sleep, which I fancy is also good advice. And regular Vit. D. I tend to be very hygienic anyway, and I avoid touching items that the public has been near.
From that comment, it looks like you have a rift valley in your cranium and your IQ is about 55.
Me too! Vitamins and exercise can do that to a guy.
What on earth are you on about?
lidiaseventeen, you might want to remove these since your real name is on them.
I don’t care too terribly much.. Thank you, though!
I don’t care too terribly much.. Thank you, though!
That is the right attitude…. “at this point of time… what difference does it make?”
Speaking of Schopenhauer, I like that he is used to illustrate the high-IQ end of the bell curve.
Grant Cardone on the American Dream.
Or let’s just call it the IC Dream.
https://youtu.be/dzDSnwEQeF0
MOAR! Yay!
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Every Month i ask…..when collapse?
Collapse is a process, not an event. We are in.
Venezuela looks like it collapsed a few years ago–and yet, there is somehow still a Venezuela. Where do we draw the line? When people start to eat zoo animals?
The owl of Minerva spreads its wings only with the falling of the dusk.
Marco is anxiously awaiting for the great tribulation. You must wait another month Marco, maybe more.
Another Friedman unit.. (6 months).
2030s, of course that’s IF you are in a Core country.
is Italy still a part of the Core?
“Hey, Siri, when will the collapse happen?”
“Siri? Are you there?”
“Seems my smartphone battery has died. I’ll plug it in.”
10 minutes later
“My smartphone battery isn’t charging. I don’t get it; I plugged the charger into the wall socket.”
“I’ll check the lamp that is powered by the same wall socket. Huh. The lamp isn’t turning on.”
“Now the lights in my tiny studio apartment aren’t coming on, either!”
“What the hell?! My refrigerator isn’t running!”
“Outside my window it looks like there are a lot of people standing around looking confused. Some are holding their smartphones with black screens and pointing at them while they talk to their neighbors and shrug their shoulders.”
2 weeks later
“I had to flee my city. The power never came back on. The electric water pumps stopped bringing water to my tiny studio apartment. The local grocery stores couldn’t properly store their food anymore and their ordering systems failed. I couldn’t pay for anything with a debit card or credit card. The local hospitals could no longer maintain necessary hygiene and sanitation for their patients. Surgeries were cancelled, respirators never came back on, medicine ordering systems failed.”
“I drove my car as far away from the city as I could but every town I visited faced the same problems. I’ve been sleeping in my car and try to park it out of sight as best I can. I’ve seen people checking parked cars, looking for anything to steal. Gas is a hot commodity and you don’t want to be seen driving.”
4 weeks later
“My food supplies are running low. I managed to get a pack of M&M’s, a protein bar, and some pretzels from the last Target I visited. It had been mostly raided by the time I got there, but thankfully there were still some items strewn across the floor.”
“I’m heading to farm country, where I heard there may still be food in production. I’d be willing to do any job out there, in exchange for food and some kind of shelter. I can only hope to find a place that will be safer and more stable. I’m exhausted by the lack of trust that permeates whatever kind of society ours has become. I’m wary of others and they are wary of me. Everyone is struggling to survive but the answer lies not in living permanently as a solitary nomad – at least not for me. I need some form of fraternity. I used to have it, before the collapse happened. I was a computer programmer and enjoyed collaborating with a team. I have no idea what happened to my team members though. I don’t know how many of them survived the collapse. Debbie was diabetic and often shared stories about her visits to the doctor and which brand of insulin was best. Kenneth used to boast about never having learned to cook a meal in his life and said services like Blue Ribbon were all one truly needed. Sometimes I imagine having conversations with them while I’m driving; I think I knew them well enough to know how they would respond. Still, in some ways, I didn’t really know them at all that deeply.”
“I can only hope that there is something better in farm country. I’d like to think that the seeds of a new civilization are sprouting out there. That humanity will be able to make something better than what we lost in the collapse. We don’t have to repeat the mistakes of the past. That is why I think it’s important for me to keep a diary during this time. There needs to be a record of what happened. Future generations need to know what went wrong and what could be done, if anything, to prevent another collapse. This history mustn’t be forgotten. It must not be hidden by those seeking to wield power over others. It must not be rewritten.”
Joscha Bach does a podcast with Lex Fridman and had an interesting comment.
“Everyone loves nature after it is subdued.” Basically not much fun to be a hunter gather, in the cold, cut, trying to score dinner and not be scored by a wolf or some such.
Sort of like the farm, wonderful to walk in the woods, ticks like that are too; well, maybe better to view from afar, the house, grass mowed with good old diesel.
Dennis L.
Tell that to the mountain biker looking for that extra gnarly track in BC. Or the rock climber hauling his ass up El Capitan. It is hardcore and convenient isn’t.
https://youtu.be/5A_zIFXiH50
https://youtu.be/FRGF77fBAeM
Obviously we want nature in unadulterated brutality and beauty. We just don’t want to live without shelter and readily accessible food. But that’s different.
Hard experiences, some pain, moments of beauty, but shelter, food and fire at the end of the day…..
I am afraid you are correct.
C.H.Smith had a nice link in his last musing:
Our hunter-gatherer future: Climate change, agriculture and uncivilization
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0016328719303507
There should be a lot to quote here but I hope you may want to read it in full, the article is not very long.
My favourite anyways is:
“Henrich et al. (2010) documented the biases of preference surveys and concluded that people in WEIRD societies (western, educated, industrial, rich, and democratic) hold world views that are outliers in terms of most human cultures.”
Semms some scientists still have some humor….
The Science Direct article is “Our hunter-gatherer future: Climate change, agriculture and uncivilization” by John Gowdy.
I think John Gowdy makes it sound like climate change played a bigger change in prior collapses than it really did. Certainly, anything that would greatly reduce food supply would tend to collapse most economies. But population outgrowing the resources would as well.
Forbes Magazine published on the 2nd August. Written by Senior Contributor – Energy, David Blackbon it is titled: Forget About Peak Oil – We Haven’t Even Reached Peak Coal Yet!
The article appears to suggest that there are vast and plentiful supplies (cheaply extracted?) supplies of il and more so coal available, to the world. So all is fine from an energy, indeed the future is looking superb.
I am not in any way suggesting that this author is correct.
Here is the article: https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidblackmon/2021/08/02/forget-about-peak-oilwe-havent-even-reached-peak-coal-yet/?sh=4ba3b3802a9b
Comments?
For sure coal is going nowhere. I mean in the US alone. How much is yet to be discovered in Russia? If that eventually proves problematic, stuff peat into gasifiers.
https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1981iece.conf.2172P/abstract
Then it is of course the question of how much the biosphere can be loaded with CO2. I guess the vegetation need plenty of time to adapt to the higher levels of CO2 and water vapor before sending it through the roof.
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/carbon-dioxide-fertilization-greening-earth
It is idiotic to play games with Mother Earth.
Everybody knows that there are vast supplies of coal are supposedly available. But the amount of coal consumed in 2020 was almost the same as in 2010.
Coal has the same problem as oil: It is hard to keep the price high enough to cover the cost of production and transport to where it is to be used. With coal, transport costs play a particularly large role. There is coal in northern Alaska (or at least away from the coast). Extracting it and shipping it to other parts of the world is not cost effective. Some coal is under the North Sea. Extracting and shipping it is problematic.
I would not count on coal production staying at even its current level. I see all of the current negative statements about coal as being similar to “Sour grapes.” It we can’t get at them, we tell ourselves that we didn’t want them anyhow. It is similar to saying that grapes we cannot reach are sour.
ok, I take your bets: how long before swimming coal fired power plants in the oceans will be proposed?
The Lomonosov does not count, it is nuclear…
Many thanks Gail. Yes of course, as you have mentioned before, the costs of exploration, extraction, refining and distribution are often ‘omitted’ from articles in the MSM.
May I offer a comment to your Australian readers? Having Auz many times – it is one of the great countries and its people are some of the toughest most independent that you can find. How on earth can they surrender so easily to a vile totalitarian junta?
It’s little different here in Canada.
Great blog Gail – a beacon of sanity
Because we are all mostly unthinking idiots. No matter how many papers I send my friends about the results of ivermectin being highly useful they don’t believe it because a dr on ABC news radio said it didn’t look promising. I am being told by my friends that if I choose not to take the vaxx and get sick and end up in hospital that I am immoral for taking up valuable hospital beds. the same friends will drive home stoned or over the limit but I guess that wouldn’t be immoral if they ended up in hospital from crashing their car.
Most people don’t talk to me these days because of my view regarding resource depletion and collapse. Now I am losing more friends due to covid. Depressing.
Thank you to OFW for being a place of thinking.
Looking on the bright side, it’s at times like this that you find out how much smarter you are than the general run of humanity.
Perhaps you and I are the kind of Human Resources they’re looking for to staff the post-Great-Reset world and the vaccine is the test we have to pass in order to qualify for entry.
I would say that most of us here are going through your experience right now, NikoB, to a greater or lesser degree. In my case the degree is max plus.
The fact is nobody wants to hear anything that isn’t MSM and end of talk. Total f*cking silence, lately, from my few ol buddies. Well, if they reject us, what can we do? Being not a very sociable person, this silence rarely depresses me, but I feel you pain , loneliness can be crushing. Remember though that as long as OFW is on, you will never be alone, Niko! Yea!! 🎇
On the bright side… it’s never possible to truly be friends with people you hold intellectual disdain for ….
MOREons… or MOARons…. DelusiSTANIS… Green Groopies… whatever the flavour… are nothing more than … pets?
So long as they are amusing and don’t bite … or bark… or sh it in the corner…. they can be tolerated… they can be a source of amusement …
Nothin more.
Oh BTW Gerard… Fast Eddy had a pleasant 40 minutes down time and the knife is re-sharpened…
Let’s see if we can run up some comments…. it is difficult to get the volume when mikeduncnorm and that guy with the blow up dolls are absent… Fast Eddy needs a muse.
Wonderful comparison.
That is like the famous poem by Esòpo.
Esòpo (in greco antico: Αἴσωπος, Áisōpos; 620 a.C.circa – Delfi, 564 a.C.).
And of course you need diesel to get it out of the ground and to the consumers…. or human labor
“Renewable sources accounted for 25% of U.S. electric power in 2020.
They are expected to increase to 40% by 2035 and remain fairly flat through 2050.
Coal estimated to decline from 20% in 2020 to 8% in 2035 and to 6% in 2050.”
https://twitter.com/aeberman12/status/1424866637552005126?s=20
Last month I took my dog to be vaccinated against rabies, not because I believe that rabies is a real disease, but because this vaccine is mandatory in my country. And my dog’s INSTINCTIVE reaction was to distrust the white-coated stranger who approached him with a syringe.
I think many educated humans would have something to learn from my illiterate dog, namely this instinctive distrust of people whose motives and interests we do not know, and whose authority we have no reason to believe.
The scarce confidence I ever had in the medical and pharmaceutical industry disappeared in 2020. If they lie to me about one thing (for example, the validity of PCR tests) why would I believe them about anything? Likewise, If the political authorities lied to us about nine-eleven and the WMDs in Iraq, why should I believe a word from them again? Call me stupid ou stubborn, but we must be consistent and know how to draw the appropriate conclusions from the facts we come across.
Which doesn’t mean, of course, that if I got shot, or trampled by an elephant, I would want to be treated by my dog, rather than by one of those white-coated persons. But this is completely different.
Even if Dr Dog couldn’t save you, you’d get a nice warm friendly lick as the last conscious experience, and a sincere howl to see you off. Better than most humans…..
That’s another point, Xabier. I haven’t much experience of doctors, but family and friends of mine have many stories about how rude, arrogant and disrespectful doctors can be towards their patients. As a minor example, my father’s doctor treats him by “tu”, which in our formal culture (in this, portuguese are very different from spaniards) is almost insulting, since my father is much older than him, they are not friends, and the doctor would be outraged if my father treated him in the same way.
Shocking – paid too much, like British doctors, I suppose?
Let’s hope that rude and uncivil doctor gets vaccinated then. Just for his health, you know. We only want the best for him, don’t we…
Well-bred dogs have beautiful manners, people just don’t notice.
Yes, JMS, many humans have proved over the last year-and-a-half that they lack the good sense and sound instinct for self-preservation of even an average dog……
Not implying that your own loyal hound isn’t a paragon among canines, of course!
What passes for education, ease of living and urbanisation breed it out of people, perhaps?
It’s shone a piercing searchlight on what we really are as a species, hasn’t it?
I guess I learned a new c-theory today. Okay, I’ll bite: What, rabies isn’t real?!
you will “bite”?
Q. How many rabid dogs does it take to light the lamp of virology?
A. Do your own research!
🙂
Yes but when are the markets going to tank or is this a system that can be manipulated forever going forward???
It’s all digital.
What kind of arbitrary transformation would you like applied to the monetary system today? Be prepared to have your models ready for some excoriating supercomputer trials and tribulations. That’s how shit have been running for about half a century now. I guess since LTG went mainstream.
Unfortunately physical stuff isn’t as easily manipulated. That takes real horsepower provided by electric/diesel powered prime movers. Those machines is burning something as they convert heat into work. Care to guess what that is?
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Coal? I’m on the east coast and am seeing lots of it in train cargo ; same as on the west coast. Where is it all going? China ? India? Seems like a lot more than I normally see. I bought some oil stocks that was a mistake 😧
Containers with finished goods and raw materials being hauled around? I guess it must have been unusually busy times during lockdown? Tee Vee’s, computers, video games, IKEA bookshelves. The shop floors have been running at full tilt for some time now.
https://www.freightwaves.com/news/us-rail-volumes-back-off-from-recent-highs
Loads of Coal going to China.
https://uscoalexports.org/category/china/
Btw; guess where all the semiconductors went? For sure not in auto applications due to low margins and cost cutter culture. I’m sure the semiconductor fabs prefer to produce high-end CPU’s and GPU’s instead of some shitty ass low performance highly specialized auto MCU’s.
It must have been like a gift from the gods when the auto companies cancelled orders with the slack instantly gulped up by the consumer electronics companies. With the exception of Toyota and a few others who weren’t as bone headed as the usual western bean counter.
We’re shifting from a tangibles to an intangibles economy. Kids playing video games, the regular joe schmuck sits in front of Netflix and YT and his better half on Instagram and Facebook. Work from home anyone?
Let’s be realistic. Coal isn’t going anywhere anytime soon. In crisis it can be gasified to whatever petrochemicals.
https://youtu.be/f7gzdFGc3y4
It is crude, it is rustic. It works. We’ll be using coal a long time after the opulent era of oil and natgas.
High end GPUs? Bitcoin Mining! What a smart and useful way to burn coal! (I mean consume electricity)
They’ll eventually be refurbished and end up in mid-range PC’s or the usual low-end data center.
i’ve been wondering whether the ‘shortage’ of semiconductors has been davos-connected corporations diverting production for their mass-surveillance, mass-instrumentation, mass-automation IoT agenda.
Do you got a smartphone? If yes, you can be arbitrarily monitored. How about a newfangled tee vee? Same there. A PC? Yup, there as well.
That’s the IoT “revolution” for you. But don’t despair, you can hand it all back and return to life as a subsistence farmer.
I’m warning you, it will suck donkey b***s.
You’re basically using high tech MIC gear in your daily “online” life, what exactly did you expect?
You got no rights. The gear is on loan, for now. If that isn’t good enough, we’ll, there’s the farm.
No, I’m not working for the MIC. Let’s just be hardcore realists here. Ok?
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I don’t know how long markets can be prevented from tanking. It may be possible to manipulate markets for quite a long time. Any energy that can be dissipated, will be.
I am very curius how much time can continue. Anyway poors countrys Will defoult soon….. Aspo Italia told eroi of all oil Company and world was around 1.14 …….very low
Defaults are indeed likely. It seems like such defaults will act to reduce trust (and trade) between countries.
We can see that fewer and fewer finished goods and services can be produced. How these will be distributed isn’t entirely obvious. We can see that vacation travel is going downhill. It looks like semiconductor chips won’t keep up with the hope for more and more high tech devices.
Electricity is one of the things to watch. How is this keeping up? Are there getting to be more and more blackouts?
Richard Duncan’s Olduvai Theory?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olduvai_theory
Gail I am not so much into the shipping market but I have the impression of very confusing signals there.
On the one hand we see containers missing, on the other hand we see people buying upgrades for the homes like crazy because they saved from commuting or got free money. Do you have an overview of global markets / productions ?
I also see a rally in commodities.
Seems the world currently really produces at full throttle…
Looks like a good topic for a post, no?
We’re not burning the energy, it ends up as stuff instead. There’s a container shortage and a scramble to find more.
For sure people can save a lot of monies if they work from home and cut that vacation for the obvious reasons.
After all; making stuff is better than burning.
If semiconductor chips won’t keep up, it will be a good opportunity for us to avoid the WEF great reset or to let it have less power in our lives.
A new poll reveals that just 11% of Brits oppose Irish unity and that most Brits feel little connection with NI. The Tories may have seriously miscalculated if they suppose that Brits fancy a full blown trade war with the EU over the NIP. For all of his flag waving jingoism, Boris has fallen to his lowest ever level of approval with British voters.
> Shock poll in Britain shows 30 percent want Irish unity
A significant number of British voters support Irish unity, while the majority of voters do not feel connected to Northern Ireland, according to an enlightening new opinion poll. Conducted by Redfield & Wilton Strategies for the New Statesman, the poll found that 30% of British voters support Irish unity, compared to just 11% who oppose it. A further 38% of respondents said that they neither opposed nor supported Irish unity, while 21% of people said that they didn’t know.
Meanwhile, 34% of British voters do not feel connected to Northern Ireland at all, while a further 27% feel only a little connected. A total of 29% of voters feel “moderately connected” to affairs in the six counties, with just 10% saying that they feel very connected. Only 8% of voters said that they followed affairs in Northern Ireland a great deal, perhaps indicating why the Northern Irish Protocol has not proved as controversial and divisive in England, Wales, and Scotland as it has on the island of Ireland. In contrast, 30% of respondents said that they don’t follow events in Northern Ireland at all, while 42% of people said that they followed them to some extent.
The poll was conducted on July 29 among 1,500 eligible British voters and was published in the New Statesman on August 4. The poll appears to reflect a 2019 Conservative Party poll, which found that members of the British governing party were prepared to sacrifice Northern Ireland to save Brexit. The YouGov poll found that 59% of Conservatives supported sacrificing Northern Ireland’s position in the UK if it meant saving Brexit, compared to just 28% of Conservatives who would not sacrifice the six counties.
https://www.irishcentral.com/news/politics/poll-britain-30-percent-irish-unity
The results of the poll aren’t that surprising.
Yes I agree, and the ‘loyalist’ strategy of doing flag parades through the streets and banging drums, and building huge bonfires on street junctions in commemoration of the invasion of Ireland, to claim territories, and all that obnoxious, in the face kind of stuff does not really appeal to most Brits who prefer the quiet life without any of that nonsense. Brits are deeply demilitarised since the fall of the British Empire, they are trained to tolerance and inclusivity, so the whole sectarianism and ‘land grab’ business is pretty out of tune with most people’s socialisation. 11% and falling.
The Unionists will fight to death
Some minority in NI might want to, but presumably the more intransigent types would be offered resettlement grants. The British state itself is the problem and it has maintained a sectarian state. Likely most would concede once the BS decides to a transition to a UI.
The BS is supposed to be neutral on the future of NI a la the GFA but the Tories have been recalcitrant in recent years – likely to try to get votes through jingoism. The BS allows criminal ‘loyalist’ gangs to operate freely in East Belfast, which sends a poor message about its own intentions. The BS itself is the underlying problem.
> Crime spree of East Belfast UVF revealed
Drug-dealing loyalist paramilitaries are running riot in east Belfast and engaging in a shocking litany of crimes with little interference from the PSNI, according to a report drafted by the paramilitaries themselves.
https://twitter.com/repnews/status/1424446041018052614
It is the opinion of the Unionists which matters.
Thanks to them, Cyprus could not be annexed to Greece since the Turks living in there cited the example of Ulster to justify their rights in the island.
Both the unionists and the Turks in Cyprus should be thrown to the ocean.
That sort of rhetoric only helps those who want to maintain the status quo. The objective of an Irish Republic has always been a non-sectarian state in which those who identify as British will be free to do so and to celebrate their own culture as they see fit, within reasonable limits, the same as communities in Britain are free to do so.
The GFA allows anyone resident in NI to identify as either Irish, British or both and to have passports accordingly, and that will continue in UI. Many ‘loyalists’ already have EU ROI passports so that they can travel freely in the EU. UI will be a tolerant, inclusive state. Presumably generous resettlement grants will be offered to anyone who really does not want to live in UI.
Any community disturbances will have to quelled by the normal forces of law and order and in the normal manner, which is not that difficult in the modern, technological age, if the state applies itself with due and normal care. The BS failed to do so because a sectarian state suits it, but that would not be the case in UI.
They also cited the Turkish military.
Looks like Dr. Yeadon has joined the America’s Frontline Doctors (AFLDS) team:
Information security expert on revealed Pfizer agreements: ‘There’s good reason Pfizer fought to hide the details of these contracts’
https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/frontlinenews/information-security-expert-on-revealed-pfizer-agreements-theres-good-reason-pfizer-fought-to-hide-the-details-of-these-contracts/
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“Cli.mate change report a ‘code red for humanity’, United Nations chief warns”
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-09/coal-climate-change-global-warming-ipcc-report-released/100355952
This story is so amusing, some snippets from politicians and a university professor that don’t have a clue….
Politician …..”Our technology-led approach to reducing emissions will see Australia continue to play its part in the global effort to combat climate change without compromising our economy or jobs”
Economy and jobs come first, so full speed ahead…
University professor on cli.mate council ….”There must be no new oil, coal or gas exploration or infrastructure. We’ve got to stop subsidising fossil fuels. We’ve got to electrify everything and then run everything from renewable energy. We’ve got to change our diets,”
We’re going to stop using FF and build renewables, but not consider the energy needed to build renewables..
https://tenor.com/view/banging-head-ouch-frustrated-gif-13835737
https://c.tenor.com/8woKi_OGldUAAAAM/banging-head-bang.gif
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQLtyxT5UUeh1_p6eO1OObsf9vgAVQ82w4iyA&usqp=CAU
This shows how clueless people in power really are….
Well. What do you want the political agenda to tell the rabble? So sorry, but there is no solutions to our predicament, only outcomes that aren’t what you want.
If they did that, the rabble would, no doubt, throw them out and put in place ones that would promise the same. From the on ground evidence CC is kicking in and remember what we are witnessing is the energy emissions from decades ago. The Climatic system is so fast and complex it takes a period to manifest.
As many on here have alluded to, this could be the next big “crisis” that must be dealt with via reduction in freedom, consumption and privacy.
Look, I understand the people being worried about their freedoms.
At least since LTG aka 50 years all educated humans knew that they must change.
They chose not to change voluntarily.
Whatever happens has to happen. Disspative structures seem to behave in strange ways. CEP or Gaia, you name it.
Speak for yourself.
I’m fueled by oats and I crank those pedals. How about you?
Talk is cheap, turning the cranks is hard.
Eugenics is cheap, civilizations are hard.
Think about that.
This beauty got a gun and is nearing a psychosis. Surely they know subconsciously that there’s something wrong with the needle. It’s a death cult. KiII… KiII …KiII
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E8QiA7HVEAMYbeE?format=jpg&name=large
Possible entertainment value here….
It’s really frightening how many people seem to be losing their grip on sanity and reason.
I assume you refer to the CovIDIOTS… because the lady with the gun is responding quite logically to this situation….
Now personally I know all about the oil situation so I am on board with the CEP… we need to be exterminated…. but she likely is unaware of that … so fighting back against this abomination … is a sane reaction … of course it’s futile but what the hell… as she says — she wants to take a few CovIDIOTS with her.
Standing by for the breaking news!
“The variant battle in the United States is over. Delta won… it has nearly wiped out all of its rivals. The coronavirus pandemic in America has become a delta pandemic…
“The speed with which it dominated the pandemic has left scientists nervous about what the virus will do next. The variant battles of 2021 are part of a longer war, one that is far from over…
“What’s most sobering to scientists is how the coronavirus keeps getting better at jumping from person to person. The original strain that emerged in Wuhan, China, had an estimated reproductive number — an “R-naught” — of roughly 2.5… the CDC and other scientists say delta has a reproductive number greater than 5…
““Nobody knows what tricks the virus has left,” said Jeremy Luban, a virologist at the University of Massachusetts Medical School. “It’s possible we’ve seen all of its chess moves, or its poker tricks, but it’s got a very big complicated genome and it probably still has some space to explore.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/delta-variant-most-prevalent/2021/08/08/d1017f0e-f558-11eb-9068-bf463c8c74de_story.html
“…a key issue is that the current vaccines block severe disease but do not prevent infection, said Dr. Gregory Poland, a vaccine scientist at the Mayo Clinic… the virus is still capable of replicating in the nose, even among vaccinated people…
“To defeat SARS-CoV-2, he said, will likely require a new generation of vaccines that also block transmission. Until then, the world will remain vulnerable to the rise of new coronavirus variants, according to Poland and other experts.”
https://www.reuters.com/world/india/beyond-delta-scientists-are-watching-new-coronavirus-variants-2021-08-08/
“Two doses (300 μg/kg/dose in a gap of 72 hours) of ivermectin chemoprophylaxis reduced COVID-19 infection by 83% among [Indian] healthcare workers for one month. Ivermectin is a safe and effective strategy…”
https://www.cureus.com/articles/64807-prophylactic-role-of-ivermectin-in-severe-acute-respiratory-syndrome-coronavirus-2-infection-among-healthcare-workers#comments
“These days you frequently hear the expression “the war against” this or that, and whenever I hear it, I know that it is condemned to failure. There is the war against drugs, the war against crime, the war against terrorism, the war against cancer, the war against poverty, and so on.
“For example… the war against disease has given us, amongst other things, antibiotics. At first, they were spectacularly successful, seemingly enabling us to win the war against infectious diseases. Now many experts agree that the widespread and indiscriminate use of antibiotics has created a time bomb and that antibioticresistant strains of bacteria, socalled super bugs, will in all likelihood bring about a reemergence of those diseases and possibly epidemics.
“According to the Journal of the American Medical Association, medical treatment is the third leading cause of death after heart disease and cancer in the United States… War is a mindset, and all action that comes out of such a mindset will either strengthen the enemy, the perceived evil, or, if the war is won, will create a new enemy, a new evil equal to and often worse than the one that was defeated.
“There is a deep interrelatedness between your state of consciousness and external reality.” [Eckart Tolle]
“Nobody knows what tricks the virus has left,” said Jeremy Luban, a virologist at the University of Massachusetts Medical School. “It’s possible we’ve seen all of its chess moves, or its poker tricks, but it’s got a very big complicated genome and it probably still has some space to explore.”
Is that so?
From, “Moderna’s groundbreaking coronavirus vaccine was designed in just 2 days”
“On January 11, researchers from China published the genetic sequence of the coronavirus. Two days later, Moderna’s team and NIH scientists had finalized the targeted genetic sequence they would use in the vaccine.
“This is not a complicated virus,” Bancel told The New York Times.
https://www.businessinsider.com/moderna-designed-coronavirus-vaccine-in-2-days-2020-11
“This is not a complicated virus,” Bancel told The New York Times.
Hubris from Moderna’s billionaire CEO, given that what his firm has created is a simplistic pseudo-solution, which the virus has most certainly been complicated enough to outwit.
Recently a commenter proposed the possibility of the vaxxed immune system being “locked in” to the original version unable to recognise/upgrade to a different Jab.
Have any of you heared these things from a credible source?
Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern says that the Government will be issuing Covid-19 vaccine passports to allow Kiwis to travel around the world.
“Yes,” she replied when asked by TVNZ Breakfast as to whether New Zealanders would have a Covid vaccine passport.
“Other countries say you can’t even go to events unless you’re vaccinated.
“That’s not what we’re doing. We want high rates of vaccination but that’s not the way we want to try and encourage it.
“But when it comes to movement around the world, increasingly we will see countries say you can’t come in unless you’re vaccinated, so we are working on documents trying to identify people who have been vaccinated so you can move around.”
https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/vaccine-passports-way-nz-pm
Hahahaha… you’d think by now the CovIDIOTS would catch on to this ruse…. but nope … they’ll be ‘I wanna travel so I’ll get the injection’…. ‘next year’ will be next year….
But why ‘next year’… if I get the double jab then why not RIGHT NOW??? How will things change ‘next year’??????
The new official lie is:
‘Return to normal – for the FULLY vaccinated’.
How many jabs is that again? 3? 6? One a month, plus pop some of those new anti-Delta pills?
Hilarious. Black humour for the End of Days…..
will the anti-Delta pills contain Ivermectin?
that would be quite ironic.
These jokers will continue to move the goalposts.
ah-ha … I know where dunc is… he’s is in the queue for the booster shot… he wants to be first cuz he heard this one was definitely 95% effective and he’d hate to miss out…
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/covid-booster-shots-coming-soonfauci-tells-cnn
Tamworth, a farming town 414 km (257 miles) northwest of Sydney, and Byron Bay, a tourist spot about 770 km north of Sydney, will both enter a seven-day lockdown, New South Wales Premier Gladys Berejiklian said.
Neither Tamworth nor Byron Bay has yet recorded a COVID-19 case, but Berejiklian said two infected people had contravened travel bans and travelled there.
“As a precaution, the health experts have recommended we lock down Tamworth for one week,” Berejiklian told reporters.
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/australias-victoria-reports-11-locally-acquired-covid-19-cases-2021-08-08/
Just to be on the safe side….