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One of the chapters of the Sierra Club of Minnesota has asked Joseph Tainter and me to give Keynote speeches on October 25 at what is being billed as Minnesota’s First DeGrowth Summit. On site space is pretty limited, but free viewing will be available by internet.
If you want to attend in person, you should probably sign up soon.
This is the notice that the organizers have said that I can share:
Minnesota’s First DeGrowth Summit – October 25, 2025
The DeGrowth Summit, hosted by the Sierra Club North Star Chapter’s DeGrowth Team, will bring together organizers, artists, gardeners, educators, and community members to share skills, spark collaborations, and celebrate the many ways we’re resisting extractive economies and creating thriving local futures.
There are 3 ways to participate in the event: The in-person event is held in Minneapolis, MN where there will be presentations by two keynote speakers, Gail Tverberg and Joseph Tainter. In addition it will bring together organizers, artists, gardeners, educators, and community members to share skills, spark collaborations, and celebrate the many ways we’re resisting extractive economies and creating thriving local futures. Expect food, drop-in spaces, workshops, and a vibrant marketplace of ideas—from climate justice to co-ops, repair culture to Indigenous sovereignty. This event is free and you can register at: www.tinyurl.com/degrowthsummit
The second option is a “Watch Party” in Rochester, MN. Here we will gather at the Squash Blossom Farm for lunch and watch the live stream together. After the live stream is done, Gail will be arriving from Minneapolis to have a “Fireside Chat” with the group followed by a bonfire and wiener roast. The cost is $25 which covers the expense of lunch, dinner and the event space. Space is limited to 50 so sign up soon at:
Rochester DeGrowth Summit Watch Party
The final way to participate is to view the live stream online. The live stream will include the keynote presentations and two other presentations TBD. You can register for this at www.tinyurl.com/degrowthsummit . At the bottom of the registration make sure to check the box for virtual and a link will be sent to you prior to the event.
Some additional information:
The Minneapolis Event is at New City Center, 3104 16th Ave S, Minneapolis, MN 55407
The Watch Party at Squash Blossom Farm is at 7499 60th Ave NW, Oronoco, MN 55960
This is the graphic shown in early web material.
I expect to put up a “regular” post in the next few days.
Zerohedge article, about article (behind paywall) in Harvard Business Review.
https://www.zerohedge.com/ai/ai-generated-workslop-masquerades-good-work-ruins-productivity-harvard-review
King key to Trump U-turn on Ukraine
Zelensky’s top aide says monarch’s input before change of heart by US president was ‘very important’
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/09/26/king-key-to-trump-u-turn-on-ukraine/
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King Charles is not supposed to be political. Here he is encouraging the Slavs to keep killing one another. But this is not our fight. Does he have shares in the arms manufacturers? Is he seeking escalation? Russia could seek to retaliate against the UK for this. There are minor and major ways to do that. Would your average Brits be pleased about that? I certainly wouldn’t.
https://archive.ph/uPrWS
There is the mention later of the possibility of using US missiles.
I expect that it the US could make these missiles and sell them at a profit, that might influence Trump’s view.
This is not the first time the British Crown itself did something very idiotic
I have no respect over Victoria and Albert. There are many reasons for that but they made the most stupid decision of British history in 1861.
The Trent Affair , where Northern ships impounded a British ship which had 2 Southern diplomats and interfered with British naval supremacy, created a big uproar in London and Palrmerstone threatened war against the North.
It was Victoria and Albert, who sympathized with the blacks’ plight in the South, who defused this crisis, an idiotic decision which made USA a big behemoth and led the world to now.
If Albert died just a few days earlier, the British Empire would still stand now, and this blog would have been published in the Confederate States of America.
Victoria and Albert’s wokeism eventually cost Britain its empire.
In my opinion, Britain should have gone to war with USA back then, slavery be damned, so USA would not grow as much as now and would not bring the world to the abyss today.
Tim did you see how a 1998 Nicholas Cage movie called “Snake Eyes” has many parallels to the Charlie Kirk show? It’s gone viral over the last day or so. A character in the movie named Charles Kirkland is assassinated with a shot to the throat. It takes place at a boxing match that is being broadcast live, on September 10th. One of the boxers in the ring, named Tyler the Assassin, takes a dive from a punch that never connected because he got paid off by an Israeli faction for whatever plot reason. There are other things lol.
Tyler the Executioner, not assassin, is the boxer’s name
Thank you! This is news to me. I’ll check it out.
Charlie Kirk would have only been about 4 or 5 years old when that movie was released. So we must ask the question, was he selected for his role because of his name, or the role named after him when he was an infant, or did he adopt the name Charlie Kirk at a later date when he was shown to have an aptitude for the sort of acting work he was doing?
Sure thing big T. As you may recall my stepdad was career CIA and when he came out of the closet to me and my bro when I was 16 he showed us his work alias so I would guess that Charlie Kirk is a work alias although given his public role that would implicate his family members, and most probably his dad, but obviously his mom too to some degree. His dad apparently was an architect who worked on Trump Tower in NYC, his mom started out in finance and his younger sister is a 29yr old leftist artist who has been photographed with Bernie Sanders. Chicagoans. Apparently they were not at the stadium memorial and weren’t mentioned by his wife, Erika, in her speech.
I also saw some footage today that may contradict the idea that Charlie may have gone down the service hatch in the courtyard floor. After the fake shooting the camera at ground level stays on the action for a few more seconds and it looks like the security guys start picking him up almost right away as if to carry him to the SUV and we get a glimpse of his white t-shirted chest and there’s no bloodstain on it which corroborates what I said about how the lumpy looking blood that supposedly came out of his neck just rolled off his shirt instead of absorbing and spreading.
I’ve seen that footage too. No ambulance, no gurney, no sticky messy blood soaking into his clothes or anything else. Just pick him up like a sack of potatoes (or Hillary at that 9/11 memorial) and throw him into black SUV.
Also, why isn’t the body of this murder victim still in the morgue? As this Aussie guy writes: “This was a crime; murder by the first degree. A coronial investigation is thus mandatory.”
https://fullbroadside.substack.com/p/the-kirk-coronial-farce
And then there’s Miles Mathis’s take: It’s all a stage play. There was no assassination. The whole thing is an op, an elaborate deception. And they are all Jews or crypto Jews—or Mormons. Miles loves to link conspiracies to a smallish elite by tracing people’s ancestors back to Jewish or European aristocratic family names. he even brings up the snippet the Robbie Parker (one of the alleged grieving parents after the alleged Sandy Hook massacre, who became famous for smiling like a duper on TV news before going in front of a microphone and working himself into a mood of great sorrow and pathos before speaking about his allegedly dead child) was from Orem, Utah, where the University where the alleged Charlie Kirk was allegedly killed is located.
https://mileswmathis.com/kirk.pdf
“Today we are getting lots of indication the crowd was planted, since they were chanting “kill Kirk”,
and things like that. Kirk just happened to be answering a question about shooting when he was shot.
“Alex Jones has admitted it, though he is spinning it as Kirk being killed by the deep state. It is far more
logical to read it as what it was, staged. Not as in staged without the knowledge of Kirk, but as in
staged WITH the knowledge and participation of Kirk, who faked his death to go deeper into
Intelligence. They also planted people to cheer afterwards, to make “liberals” look bad. Remember,
this took place in Orem, Utah, a very spooky place. This Utah Valley University started out as an
offshoot of Brigham Young in Provo, but later moved to Orem. It didn’t become a university until
2008. It grew like wildfire and now has about 46,00 students, the largest in Utah. As with other
universities, the CIA has been very busy there. UVU’s theater program partners with Sundance, a big
red flag. It is heavily promoted by the Kennedy Center, ditto.
“Orem and UVU are heavily Mormon, I remind you, and the Mormons are philosemitic, meaning they
like Jews. Why? Because LDS was founded by crypto-Jews. Joseph’s Smith’s mother was Lucy
Mack, and the Macks were and are Jews. They still run Las Vegas, as we saw here. So it is no
coincidence this event was run in Orem. If you will remember, the Robbie Parker from the Sandy
Hook event was also from Orem, UT. Also not a coincidence.”
reante
dont forget eddy’s private army of crisis actors
they were on hand whenever there was a newsworthy event—never failed.
for a bit extra (paid to their next of kin of course) they would even play dead for real.
wars, school shootings, plane crashes, pandemics–you name it, eddys crisis actors were always there, ready to step in…or fall over… (some of them might have been on the Titanic)
“dont forget eddy’s private army of crisis actors
they were on hand whenever there was a newsworthy event—never failed”
https://youtu.be/4iaN-PSxJj0?feature=shared
Was that Jesus rising from the dead?
jesus only managed it once….
eddys crisis actors were always rising up after the cameras were switched off—must be true—he told us so, and eddy, as we all know, never lied about anything—he told his gullible followers that too.
“jesus only managed it once”
So not Jesus.
“eddys crisis actors were always rising up after the cameras were switched off”
Not a crisis actor either then, as he rose from the dead before the cameras switched off.
Maybe you can explain why the msm were claiming the obviously living, were dead?
Norm I’m not a big hoax guy myself in general but I am a fan of following the evidence. And I believe it was just recently established that on January 6th, a day of political CRISIS, there were almost 250 undercover operatives at the capitol building ACTING under professional cover, so that should give you a fair idea of what might be rationally understood as a ‘crisis actor.’
Thanks Tim for the insightful reply, I only just stumbled upon it. I don’t receive comments in my email so after a couple days I stop retracing my steps in order to check for replies. Not a good system.
reante
i imagine then, that you see trumps address to the generals today is another big joke, and—just like i said he would—
he has told them that ”using american cities as training ground for the military”. —and that is another hoax in the making.
I imagine a few ofw’ers see this as hilarious.
or the start of full on military oppression–if he can pull it off.
just as i said his intentions were, when he became potus for the first time in 2016.
Soldiers follow whoever pays their wages—just as ive been saying for years…..
but what do i know?
I tried to reply, the message-box crashed – sorry if this is a duplicate. Anyway, a minor correction: in the movie, it is an arms manufacturer that wants to hide that it falsified the test data, not the Israelis.
Thanks, i don’t know about test data but according to Wikipedia it appears that the assassin character is a Palestinian protesting the US’ arming of Israel,which is what Kirk was beginning to do himself.
Countries which produced Nobel Laureates, excluding Peace and Literature which are political awards
The following countries, USA, UK, France, Germany, Italy, Switzerland, Holland, Belgium, Sweden, Denmark, Norway, India, Israel, Japan, Hungary, Australia,Canada and China won’t be cited again since there are too many to list.
Algeria – Claude Cohen-Tannoudji, Medicine. I don’t think it is necessary to explain further.
Argentine – Cesar Milstein – Medicine. If there is no need to mention further I won’t.
Luis Federico Leloir, Chemistry. Born in France.
Bernardo Houssay. French origin and mostly worked in France.
“Azerbaijan” – Lev Landau, Physics.
Belarus – Zhores Alferov, Physics. His mother was named Rosenblum, which means Alferov is also probably from the same group
Cyprus – Christopher Pissarides , Economics. Mostly worked in UK
From this point I will just exclude Tribe members.
Czechia – Carl Cori, Italian origin. His wife also won but it was not necessary to mention her. Medicine.
Jaroslav Heyrovsky – the only person who could be called a Czech. However what he did during 1938-1945 is not clear.
Egypt – Ahmed Zewali, Chemistry, 1999. The first Arab/African to win a science nobel prize, same reason Marie Curie was given one. So political.
Finland – (it has 2 but 1 was a Swede for all practical purposes)
Artturi Ilmari Virtanen, Chemistry. 1945. He invented some method to improve butter production, so more like a peace prize than an actual accomplishment. He would never have won if the year was not 1945.
Ireland (it has 2 but 1 identifies with northern Ireland)
William C Campbell, Medicine. Mostly worked in USA
Lebanon (actually Armenia) – Artem Papapoutian , Medicine. Mostly worked in USA.
(Latvia and Lithuania – no non-Tribe winners)
Luxembourg has 2 winners but I can’t find out whether they are Tribe or not.
Gabriel Lippmann – Physics. Mostly worked in France.
Jules Hoffmann – Medicine. Also mostly worked in France.
Mexico –
Mario Molina, Physics. Awarded for Antarctic ozone zone. In other words, a political awardee,
(Morocco’s sole winner is a Sephardim)
New Zealand –
Ernest Rutherford, Physics
Maurice Wilkins, Medicine
Alan MacDiarmid, Chemistry
Pakistan
Abdus Salam, Physics
Poland
I talked about Marie below
Portugal
Antonio Egas Moniz, Medicine. Inventor of Lobotomy – for some reason the Portuguese think it is a great thing. They even honored him and a lobotomized brain in the Portuguese banknote.
Romania
(there are 2 but 1 identified with Germany)
George E Palade. Mostly worked in USA. Not known whether he is Tribe or not.
St Lucia, in Caribeans –
W. Arthur Lewis, Economics. His specialty, not surprisingly was about poor countries in the Caribbean, so a politically correct awardee.
South Africa
(most of those who were born in there did not identify with it)
Max Theiler, Medicine. Mostly worked in USA
South Korea
Charles Pedersen, born in Pusan to a Norwegian father and a Japanese mother, i.e. zero drop of Korean blood. he left Pusan as a baby and went to USA and never saw his birthplace again. However he is the only ‘Korean’ Nobel laureate in science. – Chemistry
Spain
Santiago Ramon y Cajal
Severo Ochoa
both in Medicine
Turkey
Aziz Sancar, Chemistry. He does not identify himself with Turkey, calling himself an Arab
(All of Ukraine’s winners are either Tribe or Russian)
(Venezuela’s sole winner Baruj Benacerraf, Medicine, was a Sephardim and worked mostly in USA)
So, even if we include dubious cases like Curie, Lewis and Egas Moniz,
other than the major countries, only Cyprus, Czechia, Finland, Egypt, Lebanon, Mexico, Luxembourg, Mexico, New Zealand, South Africa, Portugal, Poland, Romania, St Lucia, Spain and Turkey produced a non-Peace/Literature laureates,
and virtually not one of them primarily worked in their home countries, except the guy from Finland whose prize was actually a peace prize.
Kulm, this is interesting but you place too much faith in the Nobels. It is a club dominated by tribe, and prizes are given to 6M chews and 5M others. I could pick many examples just in physics (commonly considered the most meritocratic of all) but for a recent one. Barry Barish was brought into the gravity wave experiment (I think name is LIGO), to manage it, because the current leadership was constantly bickering and the NSF was worried about its 0.5B investment. He subsequently won the Nobel for the discovery of gravity waves. He could not solve a simple differential geometry problems (the math at the base of gen. relativity). He was also at Epstein’s island for a brief vacation, as were a number of fellow nobel tribesmen. it’s a city on the hill according to norm.
Shale oil execs say Trump policies are hurting investment, ‘business is broken’
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/25/shale-oil-execs-say-trump-policies-are-hurting-investment-business-is-broken.html
One quote:
Also,
I would point out that there are different kinds of oil beside oil from shale. If the price of oil could go up to $200 or $300 per barrel, there would be plenty of oil available, but finished goods (including food) would be unaffordable by a significant share of the population. This is what is causing the problem.
I don’t know how much diesel or jet fuel they get from fracked US shale oil, but I don’t think it’s much.
I agree. Fracked US shale oil provides little diesel or jet fuel. It needs to be traded for heavier oil that is better for such purposes.
Doesn’t all this mean that we will have hyperinflation of everything?
But hasn’t the system evolved to use shale and sand tars concurrently, with shale providing useful light oil solvents to liquefy and transport tar, while tar provides most of the (crucial) middle distillates?
Pretty much.
if all people were equal then 200 dollar oil might work this would mean free food free housing and a equal ubi. why has this not been tried.one word greed.
Viewing prices for energy I think is misleading. We should look more at the energy cost of energy. The gross energy of a barrel of oil is fixed, but the net energy (gross energy-energy cost of energy) is falling over time. Steve St. Anglo talks about this on YouTube.
Sep Peak Oil Chat: Peak Net Oil Energy with Steve Angelo of SRS Rocco Report
I am afraid I don’t have the patience to listen to 2:12 minutes of this.
Early on, it talks about oil supply being projected to peak in 2035, but viewing this on a net energy basis brings this back to 2025.
Do I believe all of these forecasts? We know that world peak crude oil took place in late 2018, and it hasn’t been surpassed since.
Declining barrel prices are the most objective reflection of falling net energy: the proof is in the pudding. Money is just a proxy for energy, and the petrodollar is the proxy for oil. If a barrel’s net energy is falling then then the number of petrodollars that can be allocated towards purchasing those barrels must fall because relatively more are going towards bringing that barrel to market. That’s the economic undertow. Energy deflation leads to dollar deflation.
Yes, you are correct.
adonis
your body requires energy input in order to function properly.
that energy has only one source—the earth we live on.
we extract that energy from the earth by farming, food production and distribution.
free food would require the farmer, distrbutors, supermarkets– to work for nothing, as a charity.
(same applies to housing and ubi btw).
But thanks for posting that comment, it helps me to calibrate my stupidometer.
The end of the auto industry .
Bosch Will Fire 13,000 Employees To Save €2.5 billion
https://trak.in/stories/bosch-will-fire-13000-employees-to-save-e2-5-billion/
Exclusive: Lufthansa to cut thousands of jobs in pursuit of efficiency .
https://www.reuters.com/business/world-at-work/lufthansa-announce-thousands-job-cuts-monday-2025-09-26/
“”Despite having fewer planes, and even less flying activity, than in 2019, the airline business employs 7% more people,” Bernstein said in a note focused on the airline’s Capital Markets Day.”
No wonder they are having problems. The even less flying activity is a huge problem. It seems to mean that they have fewer customers. Fewer people can afford to fly with them.
This article says,
Too many people cannot afford automobiles any more is the ultimate problem. There is a shrinking market, unless some organizations can really make both cheap EVs and adequate electricity for those EVs.
The German automotive crisis triggers a tsunami of layoffs: 100,000 job cuts by 2030
Bosch was the last to sound the alarm with 18,500 for that year.
Volkswagen leads the way with 35,000 layoffs announced
Volkswagen Factory (Bloomberg)
11:03 – 09/26/2025
Bosch announced this Thursday that, in light of the crisis in the automotive sector, its auto parts business will need to lay off 18,500 people by 2025. This, although highly significant, was only the latest in a veritable wave of job cuts across the entire sector. In total, the announcements by the industry’s giants alone amount to almost 100,000 layoffs (92,700).
This is for 2030, but overall, the German automotive sector has lost approximately 55,000 jobs in the last two years, according to the VDA. Tens of thousands more jobs are expected to disappear by 2030, in an industry that employs more than 700,000 people.
“The announcement of significant layoffs at Bosch is just the beginning of a major industrial restructuring in Germany ,” said Marcel Fratzscher, president of the German Research Institute DIW. “We will see many more layoffs and also bankruptcies in the coming years.”
These measures jeopardize Chancellor Friedrich Merz’s promise to pull Germany out of stagnation by unlocking billions of euros in infrastructure and defense spending. The German economy is projected to grow 0.2% (according to the Bundesbank) this year after two years of contraction, but manufacturers continue to cut their workforces and warn that high energy prices, low demand, and other challenges could force them to make future investments abroad. Manufacturing labor costs in Germany are more than double those in Slovakia and the Czech Republic, according to Eurostat data.
Merz arms spending and his €100 billion ” Made for Germany” investment initiative (which Bosch backed), but he hopes some car-sector jobs can be saved by factories making underused cars and parts taking on defense contracts, but so far these have not materialized.
The United States and China put pressure
“Both the United States and China are driving the expansion of domestic production at the expense of foreign competition,” said Sebastian Dullien, scientific director of the IMK Institute of the Hans Böckler Foundation. ” The challenge for the German government is to prevent the current losses in added value and jobs from leaving permanent scars on the German economy.”
At Bosch, the most drastic cuts will affect the company’s historic headquarters in the Stuttgart region. Thousands of jobs will be lost at plants that manufacture everything from diesel components to small electric motors.
Founded in 1886 as a precision mechanics and electrical engineering workshop, Bosch became one of Germany’s most iconic industrial groups. After the fall of the Berlin Wall, it rapidly expanded its manufacturing base in eastern Germany and throughout Central and Eastern Europe. It also expanded into Asia, making China one of its largest markets and production centers.
While the company has expanded into the energy, household appliances, and industrial technology sectors , its automotive business remains the group’s core and an indicator of the health of the German manufacturing industry.
“The Bosch news is a final wake-up call, a stab in the industrial heart of Germany ,” said Nicole Hoffmeister-Kraut, Minister of Economy, Labor, and Tourism of the state of Baden-Württemberg, whose capital is Stuttgart. She added that the federal government should adopt more business-friendly policies and urged the European Union to shorten its 2035 deadline for phasing out combustion engines. “It’s five past five in the evening for our automotive industry.”
It is now increasingly clear that parliamentary democracy has reached its end.
It had its goods and bads, but it was wrong for USA to try to force it to countries which had no tradition of democracy, let alone parliaments.
It is time to respect each country’s tradition and end with the democracy stuff.
Today’s government structures came from 1800s England or USA, one way or another, which was suitable for the needs of the day, but not now.
Democracy makes sure nothing really gets done, since there are too many factions to please to get anything going.
Which is why the autocratic regimes of the east are now pulling ahead.
It never amounted to more than Eurovision really. But it was successfully sold to an audience of naive people, together with abundant doses of petrol. and people believed in it. This said, I agree with you. It does not sell anymore.
Democracy, the way it is practiced today, is a very expensive form of government. We do not have sufficient fuel to continue it, I am afraid.
If we cannot find a way around our fuel difficulties, it seems like we may be headed toward smaller areas, each under the rule of a local leader.
“he {I assume Mr. Kirk was meant} was one of the worst theofascists”
There was this rumour that someone had donated a bookset from Helena Petrovna Blavatsky (who co-founded the Theosophical Society) to A. Hitler — books about esoteric chatter.
Was he the first ‘theofascist’?
How to define fascism?
The oldest entry for Fascism in Wikipedia is from Oct 7th 2001:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fascism&oldid=251679
That’s quite different from what the page contains now.
I think there are more reasonable and better definitions of Fascism from Ayn Rand and George Orwell.
Nowadays many (esp. from the radical left) have a tendency to tag everyone as fascist who has conservative values — or who has values at all.
And everyone who disagrees with leftist bullshit indoctrination is tagged as right-wing.
Will such people be able to identify real fascism from rising?
fascism takes root and grows if the majority of people allow it to.
Hitler promised to Make Germany Great again—and people fell for it
trump is offering the same thing, MAGA—and fools believe it
When Hitler took power in 1933, he had his prosecutor Hans Littem, arrested and thrown in a concentration camp
Trump, now, is moving to do exactly the same thing with Comey—and there will be others. And those others know it
Trump has summoned all his top generals. He will addreess them, and inform them of the new regime.
Again, as in the 1930s, the generals are being commanded by a corporal—
Once they are in submission, the rst of the armed forces will follow. This has to happen before 26 mid terms.
When that happens, the USA will be run by the military under theofascism.
Its a repeat o history folks—rule by a madman—just like last time.
That is because Woody Wilson cheated Germany’s Victory in the Great War.
Same reason the Americans feel cheated in Iraq and Afghanistan where they think China somehow played a role about it
“When that happens, the USA will be run by the military under theofascism.”
Interesting.
But before predicting the future a question about the past:
Who had run the USA under Biden — some caregiver in the background?
What’s his name?
Isn’t this a pretty good rendition of how the western mind works? there are madmen, and cities on the hill, and nothing else. and the madmen never, ever are controlled by someone else.
pretty much—–
yes
citizen of the hill does what the elites do. tis singularity stuff.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/sex-dungeon-former-soros-fund-manager-arrested-allegations-sadistic-abuse
i dont quite see how the behaviour of someone obviously crazy has anything to do with ‘elites’ or whatever.
The fact that he’s a ”former soros fund manager’ has nothing to do with anything outside his own deranged world..—you certainly cant implicate soros, no matter how much you may seek to.
doesn’t work.
If there were only madmen then collapse would have come before peak conventional oil ever arrived yet here we are still hanging on for dear life 20 years after the fact so if it’s madness then there’s a highly intelligent method to it, which isn’t true madness.
reante
you make the classic mistake of seeing oour situation in terms of ‘human time’
whereas the world moves to its own ‘earth time’ which is a different thing altogether.
our insanity phase began centuries ago—political nutcases are just episodes on our road to oblivion, who we elect to tell us that everything is ‘normal’ and maga can be ours through the voting booth.
Your words would probably make a lot of sense……
…….. to a madman.
But to anyone sane, what you are saying sounds like the rantings of a maniac.
If we conflate and confuse human time vs. geological time, we will be in a terrible mess, Norman.
“I waited ages at the bus top for the number 27 to roll up” vs. The dinosaurs ruled the Earth for ages”—context is everything.
As I’ve tried to tell you numerous times until I was blue in the face, the Earth has been cooling for ages, ever since the demise of said dinosaurs. During the Cretaceous period, estimates suggest that average ocean temperatures could have been around 10-15°C (18-27°F) warmer than they are today, even though the insolation at the top of the atmosphere was a bit lower than it is today.
But you go on and on and on, worrying about global warming, oblivious to “Earth time”, because you are fixated on seeing our situation in terms of “human time”—which is, as you say, a classic mistake.
Your “insanity” phase began decades ago—when you abandoned God, logic, and reason, and became “a political nutcase” (to use your own vocabulary), the main symptom of which was that you began calling everyone whose views you disagree with “a political nutcase”.
Making insulting remarks (along with swearing) is classified as an involuntary vocal tic, specifically called coprolalia, that can occurs in some people with Tourette Syndrome (TS). Coprolalia involves the unintentional blurting out of obscene, profane, or socially inappropriate words or phrases, and for those who experience it, it can be a difficult and embarrassing symptom. It is a complex tic with a neurobiological basis, and while it may seem intentional, it is beyond the person’s control.
The involuntary “insults” are not intentional but are rather inappropriate verbal tics stemming from “faulty wiring” in the brain that prevents normal inhibitory functions. Coprolalia seems to be affecting more and more people these days. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was connected to the steep increase in “vaccination” over recent decades.
If it is not possible to keep order with a government (probably because of not enough fossil fuels to maintain the current economy), then order needs to be kept in some other way. Religions have traditionally filled this role.
Gail, this makes a lot of sense. And it explains the current “religious revival” in the US in terms of a Government-orchestrated strategy for maintaining an ordered society even in the face of anticipated austerity.
The Europeans are well behind the curve on this one.
Chatgpt on the “religious revival:”
“That’s a sharp observation — there really is some bleed-through between Greater Reset types (left-libertarian / regenerative localist) and agrarian conservatives / right-libertarians. They share certain instincts:
Skepticism of centralized power (state, corporate, technocratic).
Emphasis on land, food, and community sovereignty.
Preference for parallel structures over reform of the mainstream system.
Distrust of fiat money, surveillance, and global institutions…
Narrative bridgework:
If someone wanted to actively unite these groups, the move wouldn’t be to hammer ideology but to:
Emphasize practical collaboration (“we don’t have to agree on cosmology to share seeds, labor, and defense”).
Frame collapse as a universal condition that requires coalition, not purity tests.
Elevate “neighbor over stranger” as the principle — i.e. you work with who’s physically close regardless of whether they quote Wendell Berry or Revelation..”
“The previous administration also lost nearly 300,000 children. Think of that. They lost more than 300,000 children. Little children who were trafficked into the United States on the Biden watch, many of whom have been raped, exploited, and abused. And sold. Sold! Nobody talks about that! The Fake News doesn’t write about it. With many others, young children who are missing or dead. And we found a lot of these children, and we’re sending them back.”?
https://forbiddennews.substack.com/p/trumps-full-speech-at-the-un
I wonder how many of these 300,000 children were 16 or 17 years old.
I know that my father’s mother came over from Norway when she was 16 years old. She came over with an older sister who had been to the US earlier, so she wasn’t quite unaccompanied. My grandmother worked as a maid in someone’s home, so that she could learn English.
I am wondering whether families who are in desperate need assume that 16 or 17 year olds are pretty well grown. These young people would be sent off, perhaps with a group of shirt-tail relatives. It would be assumed that these teen agers should be able to take care of themselves, especially if they are part of a group that includes a few people that they know.
for information..
https://surplusenergyeconomics.wordpress.com/2025/09/25/311-putting-it-together-part-two/
Tim Morgan puts the problem this way, early in the article:
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He makes a calculation and concludes:
I am doubtful about current population trends holding. In fact, the 17% is probably a world forecast. It won’t be distributed equally. The question is which parts of the world get hit worst and first.
looks like Tim Morgan is pinching all my best lines then
US oil executives bemoan ‘twilight of shale’
Respondents to Dallas Fed survey stepped up their criticism of Donald Trump’s policies
https://www.ft.com/content/8d7e3f4d-33cd-4ba6-8319-2d76347c9ea7
https://news.google.com/read/CBMicEFVX3lxTFBkOG5PNjc3ZDRwdDV1NVdJSlJ1cDE5X0tSaFZUR3lTZjRWVXJFSzZBYk9qRWYzYXp5UkNlOGFwdFpqekdZWWt2bE9pa3VVU3JVVXJZaS1HTjFTbW16Sk9lS0xaaElTeHppaWVVam1GREQ?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen
The URL above was from Google News, & worked — the link at the posting above went to a pay wall, for the article.
This article seems to repeat a lot of things we have seen in other articles. Basically:
Things aren’t going well. Producers need a whole lot higher prices.
Musk is all in and has been since the beginning. SpaceX is incredible and huge sums of money are coming from someplace.
Oil is apparently done, China seems to be building out solar and wind power but we know batteries won’t work.
Follow the money and most of the time one gets a good answer.
I personally doubt we are going to live on Mars, I personally think Optimus will mine asteroids, etc. and as a result after a bit of a speed bump humanity will have more than enough stuff.
SpaceX is a great bet, everything else is supposed to fail so the worst that can happen is SpaceX fails, or maybe, it doesn’t.
As for higher oil prices, that translates into more energy into each barrel of oil, diminishing returns, hopeless. Ethanol is no better
In farming we have huge tractors, we have corn and beans no one wants to purchase, we have ethanol which is a thermodynamic loser and the advertised solution is larger tractors. Solar powered tractors? Use half the land for solar, farm the best? Oil is not working.
Dennis L.
Dennis.
For the umpteenth tiresome time,
having ‘stuff’ isnt nearly so important as buying and selling it to each other—ie turning into different energy forms through the intermediary of money.
Ah, chicken and egg. If one has no stuff, one cannot have a transaction unless of course it is for future delivery.
Thanks for the comment.
Dennis L.
Apparently some people are not aware of the South Seas bubble, where even Isaac Newton got hoodwinked
Follow the money but sell befote tye top. Newton did not. It was fortunate that he fad no family so he could live with his pension. If he had a family they would have become destitute.
supreme intellect and basic common sense are not always contained in the same vessel
Let’s say optimus will kine mars
How will tge stuff from there arrive to earth?
By overnight delivery?
People who never spent a second in shipping think the material will tekeport itself.
Asteroids are not mars. Mine asteroids, refine asteroids, manufacture with materials from asteroids. Earth is a gravity well.
Overnight delivery? Nope, a continuous stream of material, once it is on its way depending on spacing will determine delivery rate.
Dennis L.
lol dennis
as i keep asking
when you asteroid ‘stuff’ arrives here, what exactly will it be used for
And how it would be delivered is still unexplained. Will it be delivered by trucks, rockets or teleportation?
800 top generals of the US to meet next week in Virginia. Clearly not the start of a war. One does not declare war and then say just hold for four days while we fly back to the front lines.
A mass firing? I hope so. Then it would be required to separate them from their loyal troops so they can not go rouge. Let us remember the head of the joint chief promised the Chinese to report all order from the president before acting on them. Refusal to act on them if not approved by the Chinese???? Best to have the traitors under the guns of federal marshals.
Exciting times.
Remember Hegseth orders no press reporting on the military without the approval of the military.
Norman when will the UK rise?
who in the Europe is with us?
You can count on the Hungarians, and possibly the Slovakians and the Greeks, but I just about every other European country in the Western sphere of influence feels even more alienated by and estranged from the US than they do from the EU.
Italy and Spain are sending one warship each to defend the aid flotilla.
we are fully armed and ready with supermarket trolleys and battery powered chainsaws
Maybe they are deciding who to fire. How many do they really need? How many of the overseas bases can the US really afford to staff?
War
Always a good distraction from other problems.
the generals are being brought together to be told that they must now obey their president, not the constitution.
and if they dont, they will be court martialled and/or fired
i would have thought that much was obvious—the usa is now a dictatorship, under the rule of one man who intends to keep it that way.
he must control the military to do that, to overrule, or dispense with elections.
the ICE is now his private army, just like hitler had in the 30s—the generals will be made aware of that.
as i said, and keep repeating
mid 2020s
this is really new. before, they always obeyed the constitution. fact.
these are new and different times drb…..
and i could be wrong, but the summoning the generals all into one place has never been done before, so there has to be a reason.
to me—at any rate—there can be only one reason, that is to issue the generals with orders on a different way that the military should be used…..and those generals who refuse will be fired.
And again, soldiers follow whoever pays their wages…..
and that—ultimately—is to control civil unrest on a mass scale….
which is bound to happen as the don’s methods begin to wreck the economic stability of the nation—-not realising that destabiliation is caused by energy rising costs and ultimate scarcity.
If anyone can offer another reason, I would be interested to hear about it.
nonesense:
“to me—at any rate—there can be only one reason, that is to issue the generals with orders on a different way that the military should be used…..and those generals who refuse will be fired.” Supposition, time will tell.
“And again, soldiers follow whoever pays their wages….” Many soldiers, time and time again have banded together to help each other under fire. Money had nothing to do with it,
Dennis L.
dennis
my comment had nothing to do with ”soldiers under fire”—–
and everything to do with obeying orders from the top down.
as a soldier you obey the order of the person ranked above you—if the generals are instructed to act in a certain way—those orders will—-will— filter down to the lowest ranks…. be under no illusions about that…
soldiers obey oders they know to be stupid…
yes, there will be some mutinous dissent, but by and large obedience will come through fear of reprisal.
and there will be many who will accept the ”new order” eagerly and willingly.
if you doubt that, check the wermacht record…
supposition?–yes
But generals have never before been summoned in this collective way before…..there has to be a reason. Trump wants unquestioning allegiance.
Offer me a better guess?
All US presidents like to have their orders obeyed rather than questioned by the military.
Truman fired MacArthur (the American “shogun” who governed Japan after WWII, for disobeying his orders during the Korean War. The firing came after MacArthur not only defied Truman’s military orders, but when he complained openly about the President to Congress.
Do you seriously think Dubya could have invaded Iraq and removed Saddam if he’d said meekly to his generals, “Gentlemen, why don’t we invade Iraq, remove Saddam, and hunt for WMD, if that’s alright with you?”
Here’s what the Constitution says:
Article II, Section 2, Clause 1:
The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.
The next stage of evolutionary development
Microplastics Found Deep Inside Human Bones, Scientists Warn
Health 26 September 2025 ByTessa Koumoundouros
Now these fossil-fuel-derived particles, less than 5 mm in size, have been found deep within our bones.
A new review of 62 studies suggests microplastics and smaller nanoplastics are impacting our skeletal health in multiple ways.
“A significant body of research suggests that microplastics can reach deep into bone tissue, such as bone marrow, and potentially cause disturbances in its metabolism,” says medical scientist Rodrigo Bueno de Oliveira at the State University of Campinas in Brazil.
…What’s more, disruptions in osteoclasts – cells that support bone growth and repair – can lead to weakened bone structures, making these compromised bones more susceptible to deformities and fractures.
Yet still, experts warn, we’re increasing this “underrecognized danger,” producing at least 400 million metric tons (441 million US tons) of plastic each year, a process contributing 1.8 billion metric tons of greenhouse gases per annum.
Or will we evolve to incorporate microplastics into our bodies?
There are now micro-organizism (bacteria??) whose food is electricity. There are a lot of things we don’t understand.
I hope that is 5nm not 5mm.
Research suggests that the average adult may ingest the equivalent of a credit card’s worth of microplastics each week, leading to an estimated accumulation of about a plastic spoon’s worth of microplastics in the brain. However, the exact amount of plastic in our bodies can vary widely among individuals
Data suggests that at least 17 organs and tissues contain microplastics: the blood, brain, breast milk, cardiovascular system, uterus, eye, heart, kidney, large intestine, liver, lungs, placenta, semen, small intestine, spleen, testicle, and tonsil.
The brain was found to have some of the highest microplastic concentrations, about 13 times higher than the kidney, which sits at the bottom of the top 10 list of organs and tissues containing the most MPs.
According to the WellnessPulse analysis, the average 10-year-old has already ingested 2.87 kg (6.3 lbs) of microplastic. The amount grows to nearly 23 kg (around 50 lbs) by 80.
It’s noteworthy that not all microplastics stay in the body. The average 10-year-old may retain 0.11 g of MPs. By the age of 80, the body has accumulated around 0.92 g of microplastics.
Glad I’m old..
We are witnessing the first phase of fiat disintegration, where paper money tends toward its true intrinsic value (i.e., zero).
Since there is tight control by the major Central Banks around the world, currencies cannot devalue each other, so we are observing an unusual revaluation in major assets: the stock market, cryptocurrencies, real estate, and now gold and silver (as solid references of value).
In this sense, if the monetary unit loses value constantly, as a result of excessive debt-money creation, assets increase in price based on the monetary base to balance the loss of value of money.
Therefore, prices cannot be limited. The dreaded hyperinflation begins with a “disproportionate” rise in assets (managed by individuals or entities with great purchasing power), until ordinary people begin to realize the devaluation of their own money, at which point they have no time to part with it, exacerbating the hyperinflationary effect on everything, not just assets. But this occurs in later stages.
Quark in Spain .
I am afraid Quark may be right.
Spend your money on physical goods you want now. Or give it away to someone else who has a need for physical goods, right now.
Over the long run, your ability to do work will determine any income you have. Take care of your body, so that you are physically able to work. And stay out of trouble with the law, or the law may hold it against you for a very long time.
“Over the long run, your ability to do work will determine any income you have. Take care of your body, so that you are physically able to work. And stay out of trouble with the law, or the law may hold it against you for a very long time.”
Agree, a major problem may be failure of secondary social structures supported by tax revenue; what services can they provide?
What you know and who you know will become important which is another way of saying be able to do something of value for those around you and make a circle of friends, say sized two hundred. A church works well here; one wonders what social groups atheists will use.
We are groupies which is why trust, morals, and values are important; they are time tested.
Dennis L.
Yes. Groups are necessary. A lone farmer trying to go “back to nature” is not going to get very far.
How much time are we talking ? 3 years? Or less?
We don’t know. Systems seem to fall apart more slowly than we expect. I suppose it could be 10 years or it could be 3 years. Or some event could take place we are not counting on–another comet hitting the earth, or a Biblical Second Coming. Or maybe AI will allow us to use more oil, coal, natural gas, and uranium, and we will not hit bottom this time around.
We like to think that we can forecast correctly, but it is very clear that we can’t. All previous civilizations fell apart slowly. Or they can start to fall apart (like the Soviet Union), and then something helps pick them up again.
$1T/100 interest days is too fast. I am not a doomer, but compound interest is a bit…..
It is interesting to see Federal budget negotiations. Like him or not, Trump basically with regard to budget negotiations said, “Make my Day.” He is threatening to layoff/fire huge swaths of people.
I believe in civil service, we have sort of lost sight of that idea.
Taking joy in others’ pain is not a good idea, that means I don’t agree with this, but when there is no money, things change.
Dennis L.
Nobel prizes from people born in present boundaries of Poland (i.e. Germany until 1945)
(Literature and Peace Prizes excluded)
Marie Curie – Whoring (All of her achievements came from Pierre Curie and Paul Langevin)
Albert Michelson – Physics. The first “American” laureate in science
Isidor Isaac Rabi – Physics . Came to USA as a baby and mostly worked at Cornell
Tadeusz Reichstein – Medicine. Mostly worked in Switzerland
Andrej Schally – Medicine. Came to USA in 1939
Roald Hoffmann, born Roald Saffran – Chemistry. B.S. Columbia Univ
Georges Charpak, born Jerzy Charpak – Physics. Mostly worked in France
Leonid Hurwicz, Economics – came to USA in 1939
Every single science laureate from Poland, except Marie “Curie”, is from the Tribe.
Marie “Curie” is the only laureate (not counting Peace and Literature) who could be called an ethnic Polish.
I think that is enough evidence to show how capable the Polish were – the old Polish ethnic jokes, long politically incorrect, was not for nothing.
Rabi was a professor at Columbia University. I had the opportunity to talk with him several times.
We several grad students ask him if he would go to Mars if offered the opportunity. He said “no”. This was 40 years ago.
I take offense regarding Marie. She was brilliant, her work was of the highest caliber under the most difficult of circumstances. Irene also won a Nobel and at that time, women in science were not welcomed.
I don’t think you know what you are talking about.
Dennis L.
I have read Michael Hart’s 100 greatest people, which exposed the real author of ‘Shakespeare”s work as Edward de Vere, aka The Earl of Oxford.
Marie Curie was included as the token woman in the lot, exalted beyond her actual ability. After she died her daughter took that spot because there were not enough women in that level to fill the quota.
That was because the usual suspects were arguing that women could accomplish as much as men in science and usedcher as a champion.
She was the Jackie Robinson of science. A mediocre player, honored by all teams except the Yankees and the Cardinals (who retired the nimber of someone who only played there for 4 years to spite Robinson).
Digital ID cards for all, Starmer to announce
“‘Brit cards’ to be given to all adults as part of government fight against illegal immigration”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/09/25/digital-id-cards-starmer-to-announce/
How about just give passports to all UK citizens.
What will be denied to people without the card? Food?, water, travel, electric, heat, health care? That would make it a degrowth movement.
Everything will be denied and you will be swiftly identified by the facial recognition cameras, as not being on the system, so an enemy of the system. People have no idea that the cameras are everywhere(they look into them regularly and don’t understand what it is, or it’s true intent).
The real reason for the masks was to perfect the technology, so when people partially cover their faces whilst protesting, they are still easily identified. 2020 was coincidentally the year FRCs appeared, like the present flags, en masse, out of nowhere, almost overnight.
Here in Japan, I have my “My Number” card, which contains a 16-digit ID plus a photo and most of the info that you’d find on a driving license. It also doubles as a national insurance card.
When I visit a hospital or doctors surgery, I place the card in a reader, and it gives me a choice of confirming that I am indeed the person associated with the card by either facial recognition or 4-digit password entry.
I usually choose the latter, as I am painfully shy!
Interestingly, the system asks the user to remove any facial coverings before the facial recognition check, as the technology is not quite perfected yet, although with my blue eyes and massive Roman nose, I would stand out like a sore thumb even in a mask.
I would imagine that they say that, so they are guaranteed to get a complete facial picture and keep the system up to date.
The tech is able to perform matches from an incomplete picture and I’m sure that it’s available to all corporate owned states.
This reminds me of Chinese residency cards.
https://factsanddetails.com/china/cat11/sub72/entry-4469.html
It includes much more than name and address.
I worked with someone from China. Her documents include the fact that her grandfather once pointed a gun at a member of the CCP.
I hope the UK enforces its internal passports and “deals” with people without the “correct” documents.
They can be used as an excuse for summary execution. Will they be so used?
Lol, that’s the Hand still running the Great Reset in the rearview mirror in favor of Nigel Farage. I’ve never lived in the Past myself, always the future.
Setting aside new technologies. We have an allotment of energy from biomass, hydro, small scale wind, photovoltaic, wind transport sail boats, geothermal, concentrated sunlight heat. We can support X density of humans in the 1% lifestyle.
Small scale wind basically doesn’t work, except in the form it has been used for over 100 years for pumping water, intermittently, usually for animals.
Hydro set up in the past works for a while, but it is very dependent on upkeep and transmission lines. Don’t count on it for long. All it gives is electricity, at the time it is around.
Geothermal is also a fossil fuel based system. If it is set up far from active volcanos, it tends to go downhill quickly. Again, it is just an electricity system that may be dependent on transmission lines.
Photovoltaic can be used to charge batteries in your computer or cell phone.
Basically, none of these things adds much to carrying capacity. Carrying capacity depends on the food crops that can be grown, transported to populations, and cooked. Furthermore, water needs to be pumped, and often needs to be heated to kill pathogens.
Solar panels are not good for heat generation, but they can be made to work a bit for cooking and boiling water. Solar panels tend to be polluting at the end of their lives. This is a negative for food production.
Yes we should make careful calculations on what energy we do have.
Whatever it is, it will support a human density of X. Now we can decide how we control the density to X or less.
Of course, we can argue that the gas being shipped really should belong to Palestine, not Israel, but that is not mentioned in the article. Leaving it would Palestine would help Palestine’s electricity problems a lot.
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Natural-Gas/Chevron-Strikes-Deal-With-Israel-To-Build-Natural-Gas-Supply-Pipeline-To-Egypt.html
Chevron Strikes Deal With Israel To Build Natural Gas Supply Pipeline To Egypt
here here
I have said a few times that only those at the top 1%/0.1%/2%(take your pick) will enjoy a comfortable lifestyle, leaving the rest nothing.
The world had a carbon binge for 120 years, but it is ending with a vengeance.
Like all binges, different people react differently. Some people wake up more or less unharmed, some people badly, and some never wake up.
But it is ending, and humankind returns to its crappy existence whether they like it or not.
Some people resorted in increasingly unrealistic and convoluted fantasies, not considering physics, thermodynamics or energy usage at all, to make their narratives.
But life is not that easy, and their fantasy stories notwithstanding, reality is biting the humans hard and there is , for all practical purposes, not much to look for.
We just need to control the density of humans. As we now believe the number of humans is disastrously falling to extinction this should be no issue.
yup
there are too many of you
and just enough of me
yup
that is what the military is for
Said int gest. Perhaps one too many?
Dennis L.
ed,
My guess is it is more demographics than population.
You are certainly right. It is far more then just numbers it is quality.
Not fast enough
Human life is not that important, except in very isolated cases
Too many people lead to a bad quality of life for all. That is why we have sheriffs. That is why robin hood pouching the nature preserves was a crime against nature and needed to be stopped. Long live the sheriff of Nottingham.
“Purity Spiral”
A purity spiral is a form of groupthink where members of an ideological group compete to demonstrate the purity of their views, often by espousing increasingly extreme positions. This process punishes expressions of doubt, nuance, or moderation, eventually leading to infighting as members turn on one another over perceived minor transgressions.
Key characteristics of a purity spiral include:
Moral outbidding: A feedback loop where group members receive more social status for holding extreme views, creating a contest to prove who is the “purest” or most zealous.
Fixation on a single value: The group becomes solely focused on a value with no clear upper limit or agreed-upon interpretation.
Punishing nuance: Members who express moderate opinions or uncertainty are sidelined or attacked for their “impurity.”
Intolerance and escalation: The dynamic inevitably escalates, leaving debate and dissent behind in favor of denunciation, shaming, and censorship
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purity_spiral
sounds like the church of fast eddy to me
Statist propaganda. The State is a cult. And it doesn’t like separatist subcultures operating within it’s own borders, so it calls them cults and places emphasis on their corrupted aspects that are inherent to all civilized cultures. Welcome to State Projection!
https://chaosnavigator.substack.com/p/will-the-third-narrative-become-the?utm_campaign=posts-open-in-app&triedRedirect=true
“Today, there is a paradigmatic tripartition of narratives:
Mainstream narrative: Authority-trusting, globalist, pro-vaccine, pro-NATO, pro-EU, anti-conspiracy.
Counter-narrative: Anti-woke, anti-globalist, but still controlled (e.g., Trump, RFK Jr., anti-vax but pro-Israel).
Meta-narrative: Exposes both 1 and 2. Understands the ponerological theatre where both sides are controlled opposition. Few voices reside here – and they are often marginalized, censored, or distorted.
The “third narrative” is the true target for elimination, because this is where genuine revolution begins: autonomous, real awakening – both horizontal (political/structural) and vertical (spiritual/existential).”
Thanks. There’s the third narrative of dissidence and then there’s the God Mode of dissidence, wherein we write into existence the egregore known as the Hand, and we write into existence the Non-Public Degrowth Agenda that denuclearizes the civilization because they’re too stoopid to do it themselves but they’re not so stoopid as to not recognize the obvious course of action when they see it. You’re welcome guys.
LOL
Unfortunately the purity spiral into Reason isn’t a form of groupthink because so few spiral into it. Welcome to civilization. Meanwhile the only thing that biology does outside of civilization — our bodies included — is spiral in Reason under the groupthink we call Natural Law or Evolution. The only thing the Earth does is spiral through the universe in elemental Reason.
Why do you bring this up?
It’s what makes us go to war, or accept deadly medical procedures. Group think destroys everything beautiful.
“Note that before the industrial revolution, most of the energy available to humans was in contemporary biomass – food, firewood, dung and peat. These traditional sources comprised 95% of society’s primary energy even in 1825. Most physical work was done by human and animal labor – endosomatic energy[6] – with a little help from mechanical wind and water mills.
Fossil fuel technologies changed everything. Fossil fuels (FFs) provided the cheap, abundant, exosomatic energy[7] needed to produce the food and dig up all the other material resources required to expand the human enterprise. Combined with improving population health (disease control), FFs reduced or eliminated most forms of negative feedback that had historically held humanity in check. This enabled H. sapiens to realize our species’ full potential for exponential population (and everything else) growth for the first time in our evolutionary history.
In just over 200 years – a mere 100, all propelled by a 1400-times increase in fossil fuel consumption “
https://reeswilliame.substack.com/p/fatal-delusions-and-the-curse-of
” Combined with improving population health (disease control), FFs reduced or eliminated most forms of negative feedback that had historically held humanity in check. This enabled H. sapiens to realize our species’ full potential for exponential population (and everything else) growth for the first time in our evolutionary history.
In just over 200 years – a mere 100, all propelled by a 1400-times increase in fossil fuel consumption.”
He is right. Except that we seem to be on the edge of losing what we have.
in energy terms, it seems to be in the nature ofhumankind to burn through what is available as fast as possible.
We did it to turn the planet into cash as fast as possible, and created gods to reassure ourselves that it is all ‘gods holy purpose’
no other animal does this —we have screwd up their world as well our own.
The Maximum Power Principle seems to hold. If there is inexpensive energy available to use, someone will make use of it.
i spent yesterday afternoon with a Darby direct descendant—pointed out that it was all ggggggg- grandads fault.
we enjoyed a good laugh about it.
You seem to be deterministic, reflecting on your life, did you determine much/most of it or did you react to what came?
Dennis L
we all must react to what life delivers dennis
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I was born with a few skills, just as you were.. I like to think i used those skills to determine my future—i also had a few lucky breaks….
we use those skills to improve our life chances
Please explain the Amish. Or hasidim.
With regards to the world, who do you blame for the meteor which caused the dinosaurs so many issues?
In jest. Perhaps a brontosaurus had a gigantic fart?
Dennis L.
my comments in this context are normally collective….
not specific…
The Amish are hopelessly inbred and doomed. The Hasidim is a parasite of Israel which will have to change their ways when the Crunch arrives.
And they are unlikely to build any contraption to send all these gadgets to space.
No need to discuss them, like there is no need to discuss pandas. The pandas look nice, and make good stories, but they are doomed as far as evolution is concerned, and same to the Amish and the Hasidim.
Fossil fuels don’t just make themselves available like apples and elk. The ecologies of the apple and elk and people have to be destroyed in order for the fossil fuels to be mined. Only collective cultural mental illness would do such a thing and it has nothing to do with the totality of human nature itself – you keep on making that logical fallacy.
Humans have the capacity to be highly functioning, healthy peoples who keep their own environmental impact in check because they value long-term interests over short-term interests, and humans also have the ability to be destructive by farming and mining in the name of a short-term MPP.
It is not deterministic, as Dennis is reminding you.
lol reante
when mining began at a serious level, 300 years ago, the average worker earned roughly 1/3rd of an English pound per week.
On that he was just about able to subsist at not much above starvation level.. Life expectancy was about 35/45, 1 in 5 children didnt reach 5 years old.
Then the ironmasters said—go into the earth, and risk your lives, and we will double your wages…
yes it really was that simple….a bet on your life.
They could double wages because of the profit coal brought through miner’s labour, which could b as high as 50:1. They could have quadrupled wages and still made a profit, but they didn’t.
Miners did NOT value long term interests over short term interests…they couldnt afford to—they wanted higher wages. It was as simple and uncomplicated as that.
Long term interests lay with the mine owners.
Miners literally tore the earth open to get at more and more coal—ive seen it up close, and i do mean actual coalface-touching close.
Men have been willing to do that all their working lives, most survived— many did not. Few had the opportunity to avail themselves of living on some kind of higher cultural level.
try studying your subject before you wax lyrical about it.
Norm you limit your argument regarding the state of human nature to what is forced/coerced upon humans inside civilization. Yet you are well aware that 97pc of human history occurred entirely outside of civilization. It’s like putting goats inside a fencline and blaming the goats for chronically overgrazing the ground within the fence line isn’t it? It’s a common mistake and a simple one.
you are quite right reante
human kind got along sort of ok for about 2m years, eating or being eaten etc
unfortunately for the last 300 we have believed the myth that the laws of physics do not apply to us (and before that really—but that didnt matter very much)
right or wrong we now aspire to civilisation of the last century or two, (that includes you and me too)
remove your mechanical slaves—and you will die (as I will)
I dont see the point in putting a shine on reality
Appreciate that norm but i might add that reality always shines for those willing to gently follow its lead..
Despite the barbarity we attempt to force on everyone(centuries after it was forced on us), not all of humanity were, or are like ‘us’.
Some still understand and express it with effortless natural harmony.
https://youtu.be/0E3bSEY58AY?feature=shared
We’ll be chopping their forest down promptly no doubt.
quite right
humankind used to live in harmony with nature, and still just might.
unfortunuately it isnt possible to live in harmony with nature if you have planes roads iron ships and factories.
this is the bit the degrowthers miss
That’s what I’m talkin bout Norm! You keep your chin up it’s always darkest before the dawn.
Lost me with the anti vaxxer rubbish
Updated map of the regions of Russia where there are shortages of gasoline or diesel
https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/1npajeg/updated_map_of_the_regions_of_russia_where_there/#lightbox
GAS SHORTAGES!
The East and the very far North seem to have problems getting supply. They are a little like “California” to the US.
This map shows Yaroslavl Oblast in red. I was in Yaroslavl and Kostroma today, got gas near Yaroslavl, and of course I got gas 3 times in the last 3 weeks. I saw no shortages. I am sure the rest of the map is right.
Thank you.
Sadly, today a speeding ticket arrived from Kostroma.
They do speed cameras, too? Nowhere to run.
Update .
US Readies $20 Billion Rescue to Help Milei Win in Argentina
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bessent-says-us-negotiating-20-124122527.html
At least $20 billion is not too high a contribution.
HELP . I want the same as Argentina but only USD 350 billion . 😂
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/21/south-koreas-president-lee-trump-investment-financial-crisis.html
The Ponzi is swinging . NVIDIA to finance Open AI and vice versa . South Korea to invest in USA but USA must finance it . Grab the popcorn .
I spoke too soon . 😂
https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/trumps-trade-deal-south-korea-rocks-lutnick-seeks-more-cash
Sure, bail out everyone. What could go wrong?
Good Morning . While you were asleep new bailouts .
https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/trump-bail-out-farmers-tariff-money-will-investigate-seed-fertilizer-companies-over
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/white-house-plans-emergency-orders-keep-coal-plants-running-power-bill-crisis-emerges
Must always start with the digit “6” it is part of the globalist magic thinking / voodoo.
Government is supposed to protect
LIFE
LIBERTY
PROPERTY
The western governments refuses to do any of these.
How long before some groups decides to be the government and take possession.
It sounds like Donald Trump is trying to tackle some problem areas.
Trump is creating problem areas….
so that he can then ‘tackle’ them
Maybe, it is so hard to tell.
hello? this all happened in 1913. tis on a par to norm seeing the USA becoming authoritarian now and only now.
laugh all you want
democracy thrives on prosperity
poverty makes it an orphan and it starves to death. (NP)
(no way around that—check your history books–dont take my word for it.)
Are you describing Enantiodromia Norman?
If so, no need to worry about democracy, it was always ending like this.
Or as Laozi said millenia ago
Disaster is what prosperity depend on
Prosperity is what disaster lurks within.
Who knows where the turning point is?
California’s 25-Year War on Oil BACKFIRES as Newsom PANICS Over $4.66 Gas
It seems like a bunch of the stories about Governor Newsom’s problems have been popping up.
You expect them to spend billions building new refineries for oil that won’t exist in the future. Oil companies know about Peak Oil; environmentalists are just scapegoats. I’d love to see Fox Business talk about oil depletion, but that’s as likely as pigs flying. If Democrats cured cancer, Fox News would complain about all the jobs lost in the medical industry.
We were surprised when the FT talked about peak oil last Thursday, albeit with an altered timeline which is the last resort of gubmint disinfo. So Fox might yet surprise us too.
The medical industry cures cancer cases all the time. So do prolonged water fasts. Therefore there are cures for cancer. The ‘cure for cancer’ is a religious search for a holy grail.
Acknowledging resource depletion or climate change isn’t in the interest of the capitalist class. With Fox News acting as their propaganda tool, I won’t be holding my breath.
Sure, not as long as MAGA is still in power.
Accident at world’s second largest copper mine sends copper prices higher, will create a supply shock for 12 – 15 months. The article doesn’t go into it, but the accident will also affect gold availability and prices.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/black-swan-event-copper-prices-soar-after-fcx-declares-force-majeure-worlds-2nd-largest
We are awfully dependent on a few large mines to keep the extraction of copper going. I expect that probably happens for some other minerals, especially when we are up against limits.
Just watching Neil Oliver. Degrowth movement can go in two directions. It can be hippy green gardening or it can be digital money controlling every thing you are allowed to buy, transport you are allowed to use. Is the degrowth government controlled by use of government force.
The latter, obviously
The degrowth will be govt controlled. People who have no business consuming the good things of life won’t be allowed to do so.
amen brother
degrowth implies some kind of control
those options deliver collapse
not degrowth
That is correct Norm. There is only collapse. Though there are two types of collapse: controlled (more or less), and chaotic. The proper nomenclature for the former is ‘degrowth’ in single quotes. Without the single quotes it is a euphemistic bargaining with collapse.
Mercedes-Benz Moving Commercial Vehicle Production From Germany To Poland .
From the link .
1. They will start in 2029 .
2 . As the automotive industry undergoes a historic transition toward electrification, the fate of Ludwigsfelde’s 2,200 workers will remain a flashpoint in Germany’s ongoing debate about the balance between industrial competitiveness and job security.
Don’t they know about peak oil .?
https://www.dsf.my/2025/09/mercedes-benz-moving-commercial-vehicle-production-from-germany-to-poland/
According to the 2025 Statistical Review of World Energy, Poland is the biggest coal producer in Europe.
All of them German coal mines
Awarded to Poland to spite Germany and the Poles mismanaged them very badly
Kul,
Poland makes some very good machine tools.
Dennis L.
Shelby County Government shares National Guard checkpoint etiquette advice | News | fox13memphis.com
“MEMPHIS, Tenn. – Though it’s still unclear in what capacity the National Guard would serve in Memphis, when and if they join 22 federal agencies under the “Memphis Safe Task Force” plan, the Shelby County Government said drivers may experience checkpoints across Memphis.
https://www.fox13memphis.com/news/shelby-county-government-shares-national-guard-checkpoint-etiquette-advice/article_d0a257e2-46b4-453e-8476-390931402e6d.html
if I go there I’ll be “Walking in Memphis”.
All jokes aside. They’ll be shoving that covid stick up your arse next. Bet!
well well well
earlier today i said –in effect—get used to troops on the streets in the usa.
i also clicked on that link—to be told that it was ”unavailbe to me. in europe, for legal reasons”
is this still amusing?—-checkpoints on the streets??—and I’m blocked from reading about it.
I hope all this sounds familiar.
These are just the first stages of authoritarism
The first stages? Are you 8 years old? where were you during hurricane Katrina, when the Patriot Act was passed, the 2020 election, when they locked people in their homes for six months also in 2020, or during any of various SWAT events? we can in fact go back to the 1960s in fact, and we have in this very page. Do you know that in California if you want to send your child to school he or she has to submit to 50 vaccinations? if anything, the USA is now less authoritarian simply because it is weaker.
/////he 2020 election, when they locked people in their homes for six months////
I would like info on that please—(not cut n paste hysteria)
I any event whats happening now is infinitely more serious
Seriously what is happening now?
well ed—
you are on ofw, so you can read
i can offer no further assistance
The US government refuses to stop illegal immigration, refuses to deport illegal immigrants, refuses to “deal” with the Soros operation, refuses to deal with the two Chinese billionaire funding trans. The US making a lame attempt to steal Venezuelan oil, to steal Russian oil. Refuses to deal with UN funding of invasion.
How much of the country can the dems and repubs destroy before they do not have money to pay the soldiers? Same question for EU countries.
How long before the citizens start shooting? Which of course is evil and wrong they must accept their families death without complaint. No re-education camp for me.
Good grief!!! Norman’s found an exaggeration he can quibble about.
Well done, Norman. Well done!!
The election and the lockdown were different items on drb’s list, Norman. Please do try to keep up.
In the US in 2020, some states locked people down severely, while others didn’t.
The two most notable lockdown states were California and New York, both of which were and are run by authoritarian Democrats who practice policies that you would describe as “fascist” if they were practiced by Republicans, because you are mired in partisan hatred and doped up on MSM misinformation.
Let’s take a look at California in 2020
Stay-at-Home Order:
Issued on March 19, 2020, it required residents to stay home except for essential activities like grocery shopping, medical care, and exercise.
Business Closures:
Many “non-essential” businesses, such as dining establishments, gyms, and entertainment venues, were closed. “Essential” businesses (grocery stores, pharmacies, etc.) remained open.
Mask Mandates:
A statewide mask mandate was implemented in June 2020, requiring masks in most public settings.
Phased Reopening:
In late May, California introduced a tiered system for reopening based on local COVID-19 data. Counties were categorized into tiers (purple, red, orange, yellow), with each tier allowing different levels of business operations and gatherings.
Regional Stay-at-Home Orders:
In December 2020, due to rising cases, California imposed regional stay-at-home orders that restricted gatherings and indoor operations in many regions.
And here’s New York:
Stay-at-Home Order:
New York issued a stay-at-home order on March 22, 2020, requiring residents to stay at home except for essential needs.
Business Closures:
Non-essential businesses were closed, and essential services remained operational. This included grocery stores, pharmacies, and healthcare facilities.
Mask Mandates:
New York implemented a mask mandate in April 2020, requiring masks in public spaces where social distancing was not possible.
Phased Reopening:
Starting in May 2020, New York began a phased reopening process based on regional data, allowing businesses and activities to resume gradually, with strict health guidelines.
Targeted Restrictions:
As case numbers fluctuated, New York sometimes re-imposed restrictions in specific areas experiencing outbreaks, including limits on gatherings and indoor dining.
Re: Trump’s supposed “flip flop” on Ukraine, which he said might get all of its territory back and even maybe more with NATO support.
I am inclined to see this as goading of the Europeans. AFAIK, he has has not changed his view that Europeans have to stop buying Russian oil and gas, whether openly or on the sly through an intermediary. His “new view” is consistent with his old view if you believe that his real goal is the destruction of European economies, further vassalizing them into complete dependence on the US, and drastically reducing their intake of oil, gas and mineral resources (more for the US). Having to import all fuels from the US, they won’t be able to afford any industry. Ukraine is just a means to this end.
Could be.
This may be the right way to interpret what has been happening recently. If a smaller privileged class can be allowed to continue for a while, then that group can do well on the limited energy supplies that are available.
“Quite a change of attitude by President Trump. Hard to explain.”
nope. easy.
nobody believes the kirk story, so gotta !WAR!
simple. 😂
Copy/paste from TAE
“Brother Mercouris explained that Trump, rather than debate Kellogg and the neocons who wanted to push the Russia-is-losing narrative, essentially said to them, “You’re right,” and then took that claim to a logical conclusion. Rather than argue with Kellogg and the neocons he said: Ok, you’re right. Since Ukraine is winning and Russia is losing, why the hell does the US have to do anything more? Sure, we’ll sell NATO all the weapons we want (assuming we can actually make them) and they can bankrupt themselves giving them to Ukraine while America makes some sorely needed cash. Anyway, since Russia’s economy is collapsing, the war will end, Ukraine will win and we don’t have to do another damn thing.
The ball is now in the hands of Ukraine, NATO and the neocons. Trump is not going to do anything new in terms of military or diplomatic action. He is in essence, hoisting them on their own petard. Kellogg is now on the record, having told Trump that Ukraine is winning and Russia is losing, and will have — as Ricky Ricardo used to say — some splaining to do when the Ukrainian front crumbles and Russia reaches the Dnieper River. And how will he explain why the Russian economy is doing better by December than the US economy? He promised Trump a collapse.”?
https://larrycjohnson.substack.com/p/ignore-ukraine-trump-is-pay-attention
This is such a bizarre and unsettling read. The sheer variety of opinions and conspiracy theories surrounding Charlie Kirks death is staggering. From comparing him to JFK to suggesting Israeli involvement or staged events, its wild to see how one single incident can spark such division and wild speculation. The comments about rising costs, political maneuvering, and even AIs energy consumption just add to the chaotic vibe. Its a real window into the current climate of uncertainty and distrust.
This comment is probably intended to be a reply to something earlier.
Maybe home builders are finally figuring out that they need to do is sell existing inventory, and not build as many new homes until the market is a lot better. The Zerohedge article is titled:
New Home Sales Exploded Higher In August, But Prices Rose
The article goes on with other charts and explanations, to suggest that maybe builders have been going to work selling existing inventory, while interest rates were temporarily a bit lower. We can’t count on the lower Fed Interest Rate Target really holding down mortgage interest rates. Interest rates on 10 year Treasuries seem to be up again today.
No H-1B, no problem! China to launch K Visa on Oct 1 to attract global STEM talent amid US $100k visa
China’s K Visa sends a clear signal: “qualified talent is welcome here”, potentially boosting China’s soft power among global STEM graduates
https://www.businesstoday.in/nri/visa/story/no-h-1b-no-problem-china-to-launch-k-visa-on-oct-1-to-attract-global-stem-talent-amid-us-100k-visa-495493-2025-09-24
It is a bit harder to learn Chinese.
I think it is aimed at the overseas Chinese diaspora . Does one have to learn Chinese to do computer programing ? Maybe trying to set an example of soft power . I don’t know just guessing . However if you are unemployed in India ( 50% youth unemployment ) then better to take a chance in China .
Indians in China? Can you imagine how they would be treated in the most racist country in the world?
I have a first person account that if you are expert at a technology they are interested in, you will be treated very well. The recent approval in one day of 180 coffee exporters should convince everyone that when they want they can be quite effective.
Sure, by their employers. China is now a zero trust society, and the lowest of the low is anyone not Han. This is due to decades of the government trying to form a single economic organism… at any cost.
If I was anyone foreign working in China going forward… I would want to stay in a gated community.
That said, Im sure everything is fine for most people most of the time…. until the government foments strife designed to annoy foreign governments.
There was a time I wanted to work in China… for the experience of it all. That goes back a few years now. What I see today is a shell of a country, falling apart as fast as any where else… likely because of trade disruption and resource constriction.
No, RF technology is completely in the hand of the government. It was the scientific establishment. I have likewise a friend (a faculty in Arabia) who is getting treated well as we speak. China has had a relationship with peoples along the silk road for centuries now. I do partially agree with you in that for example the Mongols far prefer Russia, despite the genetic similarity.
DJT does a U turn on Ukraine .
” Quite a change of attitude by President Trump. Hard to explain.
It’s almost an invitation to Russia to drop the lawful behaviour and join the Western powers in their war crimes of ruthless civilian bombings…
A trick to lure Russia into illegal behaviour? Just like Saddam Hussein was told by the US ambassador that annexing Kuwait would not result in a US reaction.
Or perhaps an attempt to frame war crimes as business as usual and military action not contravening the various conventions as ‘looking weak’. To absolve any ongoing crimes, such as genocide?
Or simply an attempt to advance the globalist depopulation agenda by stepping up the killing?
Concerning the Russian economy, it’s an erroneous assessment.
https://x.com/scientificecon/status/1970621565554274725/photo/1
maybe somthin spooked him.
Disney World ’empty’ as Americans fear tourism is ‘finished’ in Florida
Disney World has been a ghost town this summer, with visitors sharing different theories about what might be behind the quiet scenes at the popular theme park
https://www.themirror.com/news/us-news/disney-world-empty-americans-fear-1398349
Las Vegas is also dead . Broke . The Covid stimulus money has run out .
https://www.investopedia.com/visitor-numbers-in-las-vegas-plummet-sparking-worries-about-us-economic-health-11813920
Expensive as hell. $25 parking for property. $50 resort fee. Nickeling and diming every corner. Only people with expense accounts go there now
The report ends
I expect the high prices are a problem. The controversy with Disney’s woke stance no doubt hurt Disney as well. Nearby conservative folks wouldn’t bother to buy season tickets.
I live in Florida, tourism is “dead” here in the Summer months; hot, humid, with plenty of thunderstorms during the day…Central Florida is especially a heat pocket, frying pan…not having the ocean breeze. Not many visitors find it enjoyable “vacation”, actually it’s the opposite..torture. Post again during the winter season …I’ve seen YouTube videos …
Las Vegas is another kettle of fish…with online gambling taking over, why travel all the why there to satisfy your gambling addition?
Reante , was Bitcoin created by the CIA or NSA? ?
That is my assumption – some US agency or affiliate.
Hello stranger, like I said the other day I don’t know the first thing about crypto because it holds zero interest to me. I don’t even understand what it is and I’ll be perfectly happy to go to the vulture’s nest for regurgitation without ever understanding. But if crypto carnage is going to be second gear in getting dollar stablecoins from 0-60 in 3.33 seconds then I’d have to guess the former over the latter given the stakes.
Targeting a small FBI office in Media, Pennsylvania, they relied on psychological manipulation rather than brute force. By leaving a handwritten note on the door that read, “Please don’t lock this door tonight,” they banked on someone following the instruction without questioning its origin. The plan worked flawlessly.
” But long before the dawning of the digital age, one group of citizens risked everything when they uncovered illegal government spying programs. The FBI, established in 1908, was for 60 years held unaccountable and untouchable until March 8, 1971, when The Citizens’ Commission to Investigate the FBI, as they called themselves, broke into a small FBI office in Media, Pennsylvania, took every file, and shared them with the American public. After the break-in, the group sent the files to journalists at the Washington Post, which published them and shed light on the FBI’s widespread abuse of power. These actions exposed COINTELPRO, the FBI’s illegal surveillance program that involved the intimidation of law-abiding Americans, and helped lead to the country’s first congressional investigation of U.S. intelligence agencies. The activist-burglars then disappeared into anonymity for forty years.”
https://www.pbs.org/independentlens/documentaries/1971/
Abuse of power has been going on for a very long time.
Coming up with three topics that can be discussed in twenty minutes, that are approachable by the audience, that do not make the audience overly sad is a tough job. Sorry I have no helpful suggestions.
Maybe a return to the traditional topic When does KSA run out of exportable oil?
I follow US politics closely but the Kirk assassination issue has me confused . I have never heard of him before . So just a question for those who know about it
1. Is it a JFK , RFK, MLK moment or a George Floyd moment ?
2. Will it be tipping point in US politics ? US politics effects the world even though the world has no voting rights .
As I watch , if the best bet of the Dems against Vance is AOC then it is game , set and match for the Repubs .
Som I live in the United States and somewhat follow politics and never heard his name at all until he was killed. To be honest, seemed he was. Republican activist of some sort and spoke at the Convention, which I really did not follow.
What struck me, though, and that’s why I’m posting this comment, he was asked if he received “death treaths” and his response was yes, he was being threatened with death threats!
In my mind, if this was so, I would have spoken in an enclosed auditorium with security screening at that University, especially with the assassination of the CEO Insurance head in NYC. That’s my own opinion; kuHe had a wife and two young children, not like he was just an unattached bachelor.
It’s super easy to acquire firearms and ammo..
Did you catch the bullet proof glass around Trump on Sunday? Six inches thick, twelve feet high, fifteen feet wide with side panels.
I had heard of him. I disliked him for baiting naive uneducated college kids. He is part of the “we are millionaire grifters we rule America crowd”. They of course rule nothing. He absolutely was no JFK, RFK, Malcolm X.
No tipping point. There are no cultures in US that anyone can belong to and support.
AOC and I went to the same high school. 🙂
Vance let’s make America India is no better.
I am also surprised how much the women of the millionaire grifters dress and paint themselves like prostitutes.
That is what a lot of them are. They are not physically attracted to most of the millionaires they are seen with.
Other cases when they are with an attractive man, he is often gay.
Fox News says it was a “Miracle” the bullet didn’t go through Charlies neck. Said his bones were like “Steel”.
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1np7txg/what_didnt_happen_to_charlie/#lightbox
Welcome to the brief age of gaslighting, where intentionally heavy-handed gaslighting herds. Hand be like, I can’t make it anymore clear which way I want everybody to go.
Pray tell what your moral authority is to denean Kirk. He is greater than mlk.
jesse
have you read some of kirk’s ”pronouncements”?
he was one of the worst theofascists
but maybe that is the kind of regime you want to live under?
Occam’s Razor tells us that the Hand brought down the curtain on the Charlie Kirk show in order to hobble theofascism both in the US and Israel, since Mossad is on the receiving end of the curtain call, which is being propped up by the US. And the pathetic power grab by MAGA will only weaken it further in domestic politics, running it off a cliff. As I said before it happened, all false flags favor MAGA over the Democrats, but at the nested level, all false flags now also favor America First over MAGA.
reante
do you have access to a thesaurus thats tailored just for interpretation of your comments?
can i get one on amazon?
Hearing Norm throw out the term “Fascist” is like returning home and finding your pet dog there…wagging his tail. You just know that all is as it should be and is unchanged. The old reliable “fascist” claim. Where would we be without it every day.
Norm is really adept at throwing out the term at every American conservative…when he has the more real version of a fascism in action at home.
But I do like the old, comfortable, f-word from Norm….all is well.
tell you what jesse
come up with an alternative to whats happening in usa government,
—-and i’ll join you in the joke.
but make it good
Norm I just suggest you go a bit easier on the fascist word. It is kind of like the left calling anyone they disagree with racists. After a while it loses its meaning and nobody cares.
Charlie Kirk himself addressed this in one of his debates. He said calling himself or Trump, or any other conservative Hitler….cheapens the evil of Hitler. It waters it down.
You have some good comments…I like the one about Hegseth being a corporal…umm yes so was Adolf at one time. beyond the interesting comparison, it does not mean anything more at this point.
it does—because you have experienced generals having to take orders from a ‘corporal’ put there for political expediency.—for no better reason that he will obey Trump
Just as expecienced medics are having to take orders from an antivax charlatan.—ditto above.
the AG —ditto
No major nation can fully function on that basis.
As for comparison with hitler—he did none of the ‘dirty work’ himself….he found others eager to do it for him.
And with no reservations whatsoever, there are eager voluteers to do Trumps dirty work. With no political checks, they will repeat history. Already, innocent citizens are being vanished off the streets.
Millions like you think this is OK—it doesnt affect you.
Take my word for it—it WILL affect you.
I will repeat myself—When hitler came to power, he immediately had his 1924 prosecutor jailed.
If that doesnt set off flashing warning lights about Comey, then nothing will…Trump himself said–‘there are more to follow’.
So ask yourself, why are 00s of experinced generals being ordered to assemble in one place? I dont think that has happened before.
You are free to ridicule my comments….but offer logical explanations as to what is going on.
Fascism means crony/monopoly capitalism Norm. Authoritarianism means authoritarianism. The State is the source of all authoritarianism, not one political party or another, and fossil fuels enable it..
Besides, why on earth would you get yourself all worked up over something you predicted 15 years ago? Because you never really believed in yourself? I just don’t get it man.
/////Fascism means crony/monopoly capitalism Norm. Authoritarianism means authoritarianism.////
the above are one and the same thing—they have to be.
I dont get ‘worked up’ about anything—here or elsewhere. Youve never seen me abusing other commenters—bit of sracasm maybe, but no more than that..
i usually just try to point out information which can be verified elsewhere..
Ok well if they are one and the same thing — and they are — then the Biden and Obama administration were also just as fascist, structurally, if not so authoritarian in enforcing the laws on the books. Therefore, authoritarian is the word you want to be using because you weren’t using fascist prior to Trump, so if you use it now you’re just politically weaponizing the word.
About being worked up, I’m just saying that we all knew that conservative law and order politics were coming down the pipe as a reason -based adaptive governmental response to Collapse because mammals don’t respond positively to having their standards of living lowered. The coming conservative left libertarian National Socialisms that come post-MAGA will also be law and order but without being inflammatory. So seeing it actually happening is just confirmation of government acting adaptively under natural law. And that’s as it should be. And by and large the people that they are rounding up have broken immigration laws, and the ones that haven’t will be released, so your blanket claim of their legal innocence is false regardless of whether or not they were effectively part of a massive illegal immigration entrapment scheme in service of running neoliberalism off a cliff.
JFK
In that case, Charlie would be known by the acronym CJK (Charles James Kirk), which he isn’t as far as I know.
My guess is that either his parents were loyal to the House of Stuart, or they were Star Trek fans.
I think the issue is rising wage and wealth disparity caused by “not enough finished goods to go around” that is causing the underlying problem.
The economy was able to become much more liberal in the time between World War II and the early 1970s, when oil supply and energy in general became much more available. No fault divorce became common, for example. Women entered the workforce in great numbers. This was the time of growing low priced oil and energy supplies. Also, the Eisenhower highway system was built out, as was much of the oil pipeline system.
Now we seem to be pushing back the other direction. Young people in particular are being left out of the what is available. Immigrants are no longer welcome, because their is not enough to go around.
the ”bottom line” arithmetic is
that 60 years ago, a reasonable house cost 4x average wage
it now costs 10x average wage…
a house is a fundamental need for everyone–there are more and more of us, so housing costs keep rising…
everything is dragged along behind that
Or alternatively … there’s been ever more credit available, buoyed up by cheap energy, so UK prices have kept rising.
In the 1950s no mortgages were available except to ‘safe’ borrowers such as teachers or civil servants. Nor could you get a loan on a house built 50 years earlier. That is, houses depreciated.
Ergo the beginning of the golden age of oil and the end of the GAO were both poorly performing as consumer economies relative to the GAO.
The Kennedy brothers had to be eliminated but there was no psyop following that. Floyd was a pure provocatsia (false flag). Kirk is more of a dual use event, elimination followed by psyop against the far left, and in preparation for a more authoritarian government.
Why would Kirk need to be eliminated?
I assume it was Israel. So, maintaining rapturists on Israel’s side. They must have an algorithm which decides who goes.
Why not eliminate Tucker Carlson then the moment he eviscerated Ted Cruz in that interview, and ridiculed the evangelical idea that the modern state of Israel has anything to do with Biblical scripture? Carlson is ten times more influential than Kirk.
Not sure. risk to benefit ratio? dead hand files?
Kirk was just a useful idiot that ran out of usefulness and was disposed of, so the more important person could get on with her job.
She’s similar to Trump’s wife in so many ways.
Sure, a cost-benefit analysis. But what is the cost-benefit analysis of coming onto the CIA’s turf to eliminate Kirk when Kirk is a friend of both Trump and Gabbard? Isn’t that cost-benefit analysis clearly negative? If you think it’s Mossad, then the US security apparatus is probably looking into if it’s Mossad, and would surely see that it is Massad if in fact that’s the case.
Yet Mossad isn’t stoopid. it would make more sense to tone down the genocide than kill Charlie Kirk publicly. Why not just do it in private?
I doubt that there is something like Trump’s turf. He has no turf. Remember Epstein files? He is an isolated puppet.
Do you own a gun, reante?
drb I said the CIA’s turf.
dem is the pope Catholic?
It still applies. Why would the CIA want to protect Kirk? I do not see it. It’s like saying that Epstein was CIA turf. It is understood that different factions help one another. Plus it appears that the globalist faction is getting something out of it, and the zi*nist faction is also getting something.
remove all the grassy knolls and nobody would get shot
Gavin Newsom aka (Gruesome Rewsom)
“I fear that we will not have an election in 2028 — I really mean that in the core of my soul — unless we wake up to what’s happening in this country.”
https://x.com/GavinNewsom/status/1970715257833431281
Sounds like the “Norm Hypothesis”
10 years ago i wrote that soldiers follow whoever pays their wages—that applies from general down
well—the don is creating reasons to put troops on the streets—
Dictators must find reasons for their methods—its always “Only I know how to deal with this emergency”
(an emergency they created of course)
Polling stations are ‘at risk’—therefore station troops at each one—arrest a few of the ‘usual suspects’ when they turn up to vote, the rest will stay away…and thats for the mid terms,
This will provide sufficient reason to cancel ’28 altogether.
laugh all you want,but the dictatorship of america is well advanced—i seriously hope I’m wrong.
Death by a thousand cuts . Just seen a short summary of DJT at UN . I wish I could listen to the talk between Vlad and Xi . Hey , Modi did not come to the UN . Why ? Because he is a ” media tiger ” . This is unravelling . Multiple problems at the home front .
https://www.zerohedge.com/precious-metals/gold-hits-new-record-high-china-moves-de-westernize-global-bullion-market
Why do de dollarization ? No need . There are ten other ways to skin the cat .
According to Zerohedge, Trump’s speech at the UN included the following:
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/watch-live-trump-sets-out-his-vision-world-key-un-assembly-address
I am sure that a lot of people who weren’t already unhappy with Trump moved over into that camp.
I had been falling out of the Trump camp but now I am back.
I believe he is in failing health. May be when you only have months to live you are free to say just what you want to say.
It’s more like being Netanyahu’s bitch at 79 generates high stress. He comes across like a sourpuss. Understandable.
Strongmen on American tv are customer service representatives behind closed doors. They answer to bosses and the bosses are not the general public.
Trump is the new world order fossil fuels are our future because we need more time,and the powers that be are backing him for this reason to give us more time to make it to 2050 if fossil fuels are available then innovation may save the day with some better technology maybe fusion or hydrogen or renewables .
well ravi
mid 2020s????
For some who are interested in NVIDIA .
https://justdario.com/2025/09/the-last-inning-of-nvidias-great-revenue-fabrication-scheme-just-started/
Biblical roundtripping!
Otherwise known as the typical largely publicized merger among two American companies. AOL/Time Warner comes to mind.
It’s also another form of stock price manipulation.
I’m not sure why investors still think larger companies are
more valuable. Does history end ten years after they are born?
As in, if they didn’t directly experience something, it sort-of-kind-of didn’t happen?
This is Zerohedge’s article on the subject.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/even-goldmans-delta-one-head-shocked-nvidias-grotesque-vendor-financing-scheme
Russian govt discussing extending ban on gasoline exports for producers, possible ban on diesel fuel – sources
https://interfax.com/newsroom/top-stories/113931/
Russia, with its heavy oil, probably makes relatively little gasoline. It needs what it makes for itself. So it makes sense to keep it.
If there are problems with its refineries due to bombings or need for extra diesel for war effort, it may not have diesel to export either. The price may not be high enough to be attractive, either.
Apparently my first comment went to electron heaven, so here is a paraphrase (Gail, feel free to kill one if the other appears). In the last 12 months 95 octane gasoline (the one I buy) went from 52 to 48-49 to 60 now. Diesel went from 65 with higher prices if one bought more than 60 liters to about 68 now (I think no restrictions). I think all these price swings (or most) are due to lowered refinery capacity due to drone strikes.
I’m surprised there aren’t nets covering all refineries by now. Also surprised US refineries aren’t being blown up – these aren’t “Ukrainian” attacks, after all.
Everything happens for a reason lol
Thanks for trying again. I haven’t seen the other version. “lowered refinery capacity due to drone strikes.” agrees with one of my hypotheses.
One thing I do not understand is that now 100 octane gasoline is for sale (expensive, at about 80). It happened in the last month or so in the big service stations. So they offer this more distilled product. We have a big one but I don’t go there right now because it is on the other side of the river and roadwork on the bridge is creating 1km lines.
George Kaplan on September 24, 2025 at 9:33 am
There seems to be a wide range of opinions on how much of, and for how long, the Russian refining capacity is off line. At least one video on “The Sun” channel shows an atmospheric and/or vacuum fractionation tower in flames, which would be a 100% loss of plant capacity and up to a year to repair, assuming the necessary materials and expertise is available (whereas this was given as 40% by one commentator – maybe there are two trains, although that’s fairly rare in refineries).
Another shows a cracking unit destroyed – this is unlikely ever to be replaced as it would be western technology, in particular the catalyst. Crackers handle the heavy ends and could be around 30% of throughput, but, if there is no way of treating this stream and the various recycles it producers, it is difficult to see how any of the plant can run. Even without Ukraine attacks the various refining units that use western catalyst replacements, and maybe some specialist equipment parts, must now be getting to the point of breakdown or rapidly falling efficiently. Such parts could be for compressors, vacuum pumps, some valves, instrumentation etc.
A lot of the early attacks seemed to be small drones hitting pipe racks and storage, which would have had a minor impact on throughput (i.e. a few days shut down while the fires were put out) and fairly easily repaired if the manpower is available, which seems a growing issue in a few sectors of Russian industry. Also now is turn around season as refineries are prepared for winter production, so normally an intensive period for operations and maintenance staff. There have been instances where it looks like Ukraine waits for repairs to be completed and then just attacks again.
The hyped Flamingo missile doesn’t seem to have had any impact so far. A direct hit from one of these on the control room, AV tower or the feed receiving facilities would take out the whole refinery for at least six months, but I’ve read that their accuracy may not be as good as originally claimed and maybe they can’t yet get past the defence systems (but Ukraine has been targeting these with drone hits so, if so, it may not last).
As a supplement to Kaplan’s detailed account, there is a second and probably just as important factor: the attacks on pump stations and, above all, blending stations. Russian oil has to be blended into a consistent “Urals crude” stream.
This is crucial for exports and for the calibration of refineries. Taken together, refineries, pump stations and blending operations form a potentially lethal mix.
Added to this is a second, deliberate vector of disruption: targeting pump stations, booster/skid units and blending/mixing facilities along export pipelines and in terminal parks. These nodes are the hydraulic and chemical control points of the downstream chain — compressors and pumps maintain throughput and pressure; metering and blend skids ensure product spec and prevent contamination; additive and heat-treatment systems protect flow and storage. Damaging or contaminating a pump station or mixing skid does not merely cause a short outage: it forces safe depressurisation, line flushing, complex cleaning and recertification, and can render large pipeline segments and storage stock unusable until tested and cleaned. Under sanctions and with an ageing supply chain, replacement pumps, valves, specialist seals and instrumentation can take months or longer to source.
The combined effect is a simultaneous decline: crude may still exist, but the ability to convert and move it into marketable fuels collapses faster. Exports choke, stock draws accelerate, inland distribution falters and political pressure rises. Operators can try to reroute flows or accept lower-spec product, but these are costly and slow remedies. Monitoring such a cascade requires looking beyond tanker counts to hydraulic telemetry, AIS anomalies near pump stations, satellite thermal hotspots, repair notices and insurance spreads — the true early-warning indicators of a downstream systemic failure.
Wake up call for Hungary , Slovakia, Serbia and Austria . Will the EU bail them out when lines start at the pumps ?
*Germany preparing for mass casualties
“BREAKING: Germany’s armed forces are planning for up to 1,000 wounded troops per day in a potential NATO-Russia conflict, with hospital trains, frontline stabilization, and expanded medical services. This comes after France revealed hospitals are preparing for 10,000–50,000 casualties by 2026”
https://x.com/InsiderGeo/status/1970144510807015533
Here’s the source:
https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/germany-plans-1000-wounded-troops-per-day-case-conflict-with-russia-2025-09-22/
“ . . . no NATO nation has the
3:52 ability to initiate and sustain
3:54 meaningful military operations against
3:56 Russia. None. Even the polls with
3:59 40,000, they wouldn’t get 20 kilometers
4:02 inside western Ukraine before they
4:04 logistically came to a halt. Poland is
4:07 incapable of logistically supporting
4:10 that kind of advance in peace time. Now
4:13 imagine under fire how quickly this
4:16 advance will collapse and how quickly
4:18 those 40,000 Polish troops will become
4:21 dead, wounded, or prisoners of war.
4:24 That’s the reality. They’re going up
4:26 against a battleh hardardened Russian
4:28 military . . ..“?
Nope…don’t believe it… ain’t going to happen
10,000-50,000 ‘massive casualties’?
I believe in 1916 it was about 10,000-50,000 A WEEK.
Civilization has regressed that far.
In the US 9800 are shot each month.
Sort of – 2/3 of that is suicide.
the frontier lives
If a country isn’t doing well at home, it seems like a very popular way around the problem is to start a war with a neighbor. It is an excuse for more debt and the hiring of young people. It temporarily adds to GDP.
Larry C. Johnson and Paul Craig Roberts give their technical explanation about the murder of Charlie Kirk.
Johnson in the first part of the interview herewith (link A) and Roberts from timing 1h 05 min. on of the same interview.
After timing 1h 8 min. on Roberts gives then also his two hypothesis on who can be behind it.
In summary Tyler Robintson can’t be the killer, because there are too many weird technicial explanations and big oddities about him, his position, his gun, his weapon, his escape, his text messages and so on.
According to Roberts the most probable chain of events is explained in his article (link B), in which one can find a Mr. Van Venis’ video giving a plausible technical explanation of the murder (link C).
Link A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TQA1l5fUcw
Llink B
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2025/09/22/mike-farris-gary-heavin-and-pcr-discuss-if-charlie-kirk-might-have-been-assassinated-by-the-american-establishment-because-he-was-a-rising-leader-not-under-their-control-or-if-kirk-might-have-been-a/
Link C
https://twitter.com/ValVenisEnt/status/1967372799645012036
“Let me put one other fact on the table — Charlie Kirk was on the Ukrainian death-list. “?
https://larrycjohnson.substack.com/p/who-killed-charlie-kirk-nato-ramps
“Charlie Kirk was vocal against the war in Ukraine and America’s involvement.
We should not support Ukraine and certainly not Zelenskyy. We know that there are Ukrainian hit squads that have numerous conservative Americans on their list.
And now numerous Ukrainian sites and channels all across social media are celebrating Charlie’s death. President Trump should keep all this in mind as the investigation of who assassinated him continues and his future decisions on the support for Ukraine.”?
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1437616410871801
Dear Postkey,
of course everyone can think freely what one wants, but considering guilty the Ukrainians, in my view, it offends the brain of an intelligent person.
Ukranians already have difficulties with Trump’s administration to obtain weapons and support and what do they decide?
To spend a lot of money and efforts to go to US and kill one of his best political supporter?
To obtain what?
That Trump gets even more angry with them?
Come on !
I disagree that Trump will get angry at the Ukies. This said, it was probably the Israeli. Trump is guaranteed not to get angry at the Israelis.
i see the don has gone full conspiro-wacko on healthcare again
he’ll be advising injecting disinfectant again soon
mRNA is plentifully available Norm. Get as much as you think you need.
Norman, don’t mind me asking, but are you on your tenth or your eleventh booster now?
https://thecovidphysician.substack.com/p/banzai-pemphigus-or-pemphigoid-that
It is early May 2025, and we are at the end of about round 10 of the covid boosters. That thing which was only needed twice, safe, effective and that was all, the scamdemic having allegedly finally finished in summer 2022. Spring 2025 augurs another unseasonable wave of chest infections, hospital admissions, and frivolous hospital antiviral prescriptions. Add to that the new normal of weird covid jab-related pathology. Most seem to be in their seventies or over, and therefore prime, continued targets for their governments. Does it represent the cumulative burden of trusting obedience?
My consultation room has become a confession chamber for those elders:
“Never, again, I am fed up.”
Doctor, why are they still doing it?”
“More pertinently, why did you, and why do many of you continue to accept them?
Some geriatrics remain the obedient serfs of the landed gentry. No amount of capitalist hyper-individualisation and indoctrinated hyper-sexualisation with the freedom to copulate like juveniles on cruise liners in the Mediterranean has taught them to think critically, have faith or to self-respect.
no matter
today is rapture day
https://www.google.com/search?q=rapture&client=firefox-b-d&sca_esv=637c0e90f834ed3d&tbm=nws&sxsrf=AE3TifM7yzfjtMSxHEqvqPZhBz3IOKlV8Q:1758614834789&story=GkASPlNlcHRlbWJlciAyMzogRGF0ZSBvZiBhbGxlZ2VkIHJhcHR1cmUgcHJlZGljdGVkIGJ5IGV2YW5nZWxpc3RzMjIKKOT51cezv_T_zQGsweD35JS4kPMBwYL_jOzHgIClAa-el_T7wMaV1gEQkLrkzg8YBXICEAE&fcs=ADCZBRQpXws-AVEkgyi1OJpAbyakCBnUnQ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjp1pjktu6PAxUZUUEAHSggGAEQjcEJegQIGhAD
Say hi to whatever angel you encounter Norm. All that credulity about vaccines must have been good for something. You are an example for the rest of the flock.
We will see. Not yet, anyhow. Thanks for pointing this out.
still the same old faces today
looks like most OFW inmates were not worth rapturing after all
man tries to use AI generated lawyer in court!
Judge flips….lol
https://x.com/Meer_AIIT/status/1970083559475171760
re-post. Whoops
Sense of humor is dead in the US.
It is life or death . No room for sense of humor.
For self-contained tasks – limited project scope, in other words – Anthropic Claude’s Opus LLM is as good as a crack programmer, in my admittedly limited experience.
New York Gov. Kathy Hochul recently lined up for her highly publicized Covid booster shot, but what was supposed to be a show of confidence in the booster shots has quickly turned into a scandal online.
Sharp-eyed viewers and medical professionals have begun to break down the footage, revealing the booster shot was staged — a photo-op carefully crafted for the cameras, not a real vaccination.
Multiple experts online have pointed out what looks to be a capped IV catheter — not a functioning needle.
In close-up shots, the protective cap is clearly visible, suggesting no puncture of the skin ever occurred. The alleged “nurse” in the scene appears to be going through the motions, but without actually administering anything.
One commenter with clinical experience remarked: “That’s not how to administer an intramuscular injection. The placement is all wrong, the needle handling is sloppy, and the free hand isn’t even used to stabilize the site. I’ve given thousands of injections, and this is clearly staged.”
Proper intramuscular injections are typically delivered at the mid-deltoid muscle of the upper arm. But in Hochul’s case, the placement appears too low, raising eyebrows among trained observers. The syringe is also held at an awkward angle, almost as though the individual was performing for a camera rather than focusing on precision.
If this were truly a medical professional, why such hesitation? Normally vaccines are administered quickly and efficiently. Yet the scene looks choreographed, with unnecessary pauses and exaggerated caution — almost as if both parties were careful not to actually pierce the skin.
Another anomaly lies in the syringe itself. Covid boosters are generally supplied in doses of around 0.3 to 0.5 mL, but experts noted the syringe in the photo contained a suspiciously low amount of fluid — barely visible, certainly not consistent with a standard vaccine preparation.
One analyst noted: “That looks like a 3mL luer lock syringe with maybe half a milliliter of liquid in it. Even if they over-primed the syringe, there should still be more volume visible. Something doesn’t add up.”
Why the Charade?
The lingering question remains: why stage the shot? If Governor Hochul truly believed in the safety and efficacy of the booster, why not take it live on camera as countless others have?
Critics argue that the staged injection was a public relations stunt, designed to reassure a skeptical population without requiring Hochul to actually receive another dose herself.
By keeping the cap on and ensuring nothing entered her bloodstream, she avoided potential side effects while still signaling obedience to the pharmaceutical agenda.
In the end, Hochul’s “booster” will go down as yet another reminder that when it comes to politics and health, what we see on camera is not always what we get behind the curtain.
https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/gov-hochuls-fake-booster-they-really
On, dear!
I wonder how much word of this silliness will get around.
I think at this point it really is like a pantomime version of the Emperor’s New Clothes. A lot of people can see how naked the political establishment types are, but very few will call them on it.
Remember I called out Boris Johnson in 2020 saying I didn’t think he was as ill as he was pretending to be with COVID-19? A few months after that, senior Labour MP Valerie Vaz was rebuked for saying on TV that Boris was “not quite at death’s door as we were led to believe.”
So these things trickle out, and for most people who hear about them they go in one ear and out the other. Since COVID, I’ve given up on normies. They can’t be saved. They are complicit in their own mental enslavement.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-covid-valerie-vaz-b1852863.html
Interesting article from Construction Physics that I found over at Naked Capitalism Dot Com. https://www.construction-physics.com/p/whats-happening-to-wholesale-electricity
Extremely detailed analysis. I could not be bothered to read it, but the gist of it seems to be that the large price increases in the last 5 years are due to the congestion price component of the way in which electricity prices are determined. There’s more and more congestion. Obviously, a transmission line can only carry so much load at a time. If overloaded, the electricity has to be sourced from farther locations / other grids at greater costs. The implication seems to be that we don’t have enough transmission power line capacity for current needs. Solving the problem would require building much more transmission capacity. Generation capacity does not seem to be the limiting factor yet.
Not discussed, of course, but we could also reduce energy demand by going back to 2019 or earlier levels.
I did try to read through the article. It assumes a fair amount of knowledge to begin with.
The major thing it points out is that transmission line capacity seems to be a constraint. I think we have been hearing that from other sources, as well. Some wind and solar plants have had to wait in line to get built because there clearly has not been enough grid capacity. Perhaps they should have waited in line even longer.
I think that demand now is spikier than it was in years back. Electricity demand in the US in 2024 (including small scale solar) was 5.4% higher than similar demand in 2019. Before 2019, US electricity demand had been close to flat since 2008.
One of the changes going on has been the substitution of LED lights for incandescent bulbs. Also, flat screen TV and portable computers have replaced much more energy-intensive ones with cathode ray tube. While total demand hasn’t gone up very much, what has gone up is the spikiness of that demand. LEDs and other changes have helper reduce electrical use, when demand (and need for transmission lines) was low. We still are adding heating and cooling with electricity. They push demand up when transmission lines are already full. This is part of what is driving the need for more transmission lines.
I pride myself to be one of the very few who will never be converted, and no matter how many strange stories are thrown on my lap, I won’t budge until I actually see a real proof. Since Starship has gone nowhere, and does not show signs of going anywhere in the near future, I won’t be bothered about whatever it might (or might not) be doing until it actually does something.
I am not against future tech, but I do not agree with the direction it is being led to.
Enough of Pascal’s wager. Because of his stupid wager he chose an ascetic life, while his sister, who didn’t listen to his stories, had a perhaps more fulfilling life,
Betting everything for an unproven, wasteful tech is like betting the last remaining cash in a roulette number, a 1/37 or 1/38 odds, let’s call it 1/40.
Delusion is infecting a lot of people here. I will be the last to be convinced. If it fails, as it looks likely, those who promoted should be held responsible for it.
How do you see the pope who thought or proclaimed the earth was the center of the universe? Some astronomers suffered a bit for their blasphemy that the earth was not the center of the universe.
Dennis L.
That is a narrative
Christoph Klau of Bavaria, priest and astronomer, was Galilei’s chief interrogator and he has a larger crater in the Moon than the Italian
And that question has nothing to do with AI consuming a lot of power for nothing
How much electricity does AI need?
https://youtu.be/cz3AYYZBiGs?si=-MsZoVP-dXMA3hVz
Not from someone with an agenda. It comes directly from the International Energy Agency which will be hardly refutable.
A typical data center from a large company uses 100 MW, about the same amount of energy used by 100,000 households for a year
The largest data centers being planned are about 10 times as large of that
It is already putting strains in the existing grid
https://youtu.be/MJQIQJYxey4?si=QESr2wWq7LHkRtWx
No need to point out outlandish ideas, like sending the data centers to the space powered by spacebat excrement.
And AI is failing to offer solutions about its own humongous power consumption. If AI is so great, how can it not provide any solutions to clean up the problems they are creating?
AI is just a huge autistic monster which will consume the remaining power generation activities for, I have to say, nothing.
Whatever, it is working for me.
How do you know what you will discover if you don’t know what you wish to discover?
kul, you are sounding a bit shrill.
Dennis L.
Real numbers from refurmtable sources are given but true believers choose ignore tye reality and stick with their own simulation.