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Economists, actuaries, and others tend to make forecasts as if whatever current situation exists will continue indefinitely or will perhaps improve a bit. No one wants to consider the possibility that things will somehow change for the worse. Politicians want to get re-elected. University presidents want their students to believe that their degrees will be truly useful in the future. Absolutely no one wants to hear unfavorable predictions.
The issue I see is that many promises were made during the period between the end of World War II and 1973, when oil prices were very low, and most people assumed that oil supply could grow endlessly. No one stopped to think that this was a temporary situation that likely could not be repeated. If things didn’t work out as planned, debt bubbles could bring down the economy. This was a heading I used in my talk at the recent Minnesota Degrowth Summit:
In this post, I will provide a few highlights from my recent talk. I also provide a link to a PDF of my Degrowth Summit talk and a link to a Vimeo recording of the summit, which includes a transcript. To access the transcript and an outline of the timings of the various talks, scroll down on the front page of the recording. Joseph Tainter spoke first; there was a recorded section showing clips by other speakers that only online viewers saw, and I spoke last (starting at about 1:55 on the video).
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Between 1920 and 1970, US oil supply grew rapidly. The early oil was easy to extract and close to customers wanting to purchase it. There had been warnings from physicists (including, most notably, M. King Hubbert) that this could not go on indefinitely, but most people assumed that any obstacles were far in the future.
Of course, there were other countries producing oil besides the US at that time, so it was possible to purchase imported oil. The US still had some oil it could produce, but it tended to require more complex operations. For example, some of the oil was in Alaska. Bringing this oil to market required working in a cold climate, laying a long pipeline, and using ships to transport the oil to locations with refineries.
Low oil prices were very beneficial to the economy, for as long as they lasted.
We don’t appreciate how important low-cost food is to our personal finances. If food purchases amounts to, say, 50% of available income, necessities such as clothing and housing would take nearly all our income. There would be little left over for optional items. On the other hand, if purchases of food require only 5% to 10% of available pay, there would much more likely be money left over for discretionary purchases, such as buying a vehicle or paying for school tuition for a child.
Oil and other energy products are like food for the economy. During the period when oil prices were very low, there was sufficient margin for purchasing all kinds of “extras,” such as the items listed in Figure 4 below.
In the low-priced oil era, small businesses were sufficient for many types of operations. There was little need for a deep organizational hierarchy, or for advanced energy-saving versions of manufactured devices. Most goods used in the US were made in the US.
Once the economy started to need more complexity, things began to change.
The economy needs a strong middle class to maintain the buying power needed to purchase goods such as vehicles, motorcycles, and new homes, to keep the price of oil up. If the middle class starts to disappear, or if young people start earning less than their parents did at the same age (adjusted for inflation), then it becomes difficult to keep the prices of oil and other energy products up. Prices must be both high enough for producers and low enough for consumers.
Recessions took place when oil prices rose. Governments found that they needed to bail out their economies with more debt when oil prices rose. Since 2008, the ratio of US debt to GDP has skyrocketed. Quite a bit of the added debt has been to pay for programs for poor people and the elderly.
The current level of debt of the US government is widely viewed as being too high. One analysis suggests that if the ratio of government debt to GDP exceeds 90%, economic growth is inhibited. The US debt to GDP ratio is now 120% on the basis shown, which is well above the 90% threshold. One concern is that interest payments on debt already exceed the amount the US spends on defense each year. Taxes need to rise, simply to pay the interest on the debt.
Growing debt, particularly during the Stagflation Stage, is one of the issues mentioned by researchers into so-called secular cycles, which are long-term cycles that take centuries to complete. In the book Secular Cycles by Peter Turchin and Sergey Nefedov, a group of people somehow obtain possession of an area of land (often by cutting down trees or winning a war) that allows the population of the group to temporarily surge. When the population reaches the carrying capacity of the area, population growth greatly slows in a period referred to as Stagflation. Wage and wealth disparity become more of a problem, as does debt.
Eventually, according to Turchin and Nefedof’s study examining eight societies, populations tended to collapse over long periods, ranging from 20 to 50 years. Such cycles are closely related to the periods of growth and collapse analyzed in Prof. Joseph Tainter’s book, “The Collapse of Complex Societies.”
The time ahead looks worrying, if my analysis is correct.
A few comments for my regular readers:
- My presentation included 51 slides. Look at the PDF to see the full presentation.
- Even though I didn’t mention it, having a rapidly growing energy supply at a very high EROI would not be sufficient to forestall collapse indefinitely. Other issues would emerge. Population would rise higher, and pollution would be more of a problem. Eventually, the system would still reach a limit and tend to collapse.
- I only included EROI because I thought a few people would already be aware of the concept. I didn’t define it or talk about it.
- My analysis seems to suggest that extenders of fossil fuels, such as wind, solar, and nuclear, need to have very high EROIs. But even with high EROIs, they are unlikely to be helpful for very long because the system would still tend to reach its limits.
EIA has posted a figure for world crude oil production for last July (84.726 mb/d) — this is 0.2% higher than their next-highest monthly figure (84.593 mb/d, for November, 2018).
Does this mean that, according to them, world “peak oil” was no earlier than this year? ( http://oil-price.net/ , https://davecoop.net/seneca )
https://www.eia.gov/international/data/world/petroleum-and-other-liquids/monthly-petroleum-and-other-liquids-production?pd=5&p=0000000000000000000000000000000000vg&u=0&f=M&v=mapbubble&a=-&i=none&vo=value&t=C&g=00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001&l=249-ruvvvvvfvtvnvv1vrvvvvfvvvvvvfvvvou20evvvvvvvvvvnvvvs0008&s=94694400000&e=1751328000000
As much as we might like to brag about 2018 peak total production being the cherry on top, the fitted curve tells the whole story of the systems theory (to say nothing of the net energy picture because we can’t really put a number on it). And if they wanna say, “but it’s just the plandemic that messed up the curve for 5years,” the meta-analysis of the systems theory says, “well that’s only cuz you forgot the L in plandemic.” L is for political clover.
And then there’s the fact that more than a third of the personnel at EIA are gone and Tristan Abbey is now heading it up. There would be that topic for diving into also.
Trumpism is becoming so politically isolated that it creates the space for the consent factory to now create the hindsight narrative that he acted out as a result of the realization that he was at a political dead end, and started a military confrontation that trashed the global economy.
Maybe we need to forget the peak in 2018 statement.
I keep looking at the per-capita numbers. Also, the diesel + jet fuel amounts. Even if on one basis the amount is higher, it isn’t on other basis.
I suspect that diesel + jet fuel peaked well before 2018 & the U.S. light-oil-fracking boom.
IIRC, some months ago a commenter here was making the case for peak diesel occurring in 2017….
in any given volume of oil——-
we use a necessary amount to sustain our basic standard of living—food supplies, roads, essential services and so on…
then we take an amount over and above that to indulge in frivolus excess….it is the buying and selling in this endeavour, and continued use of this ”excess”, the gives us our ”standard of living”…
it is that excess that provides our delusion of infinite prosperity—as beloved of politicians.
but that excess is dwindling year on year—-no matter how much oil we ”discover” because the oil itself costs more and more to get hold of, leaving less and less to burn in frivolity—ie our ”pleasures”.
Musk needs our ”pleasures”—because without them he will not achieve his $trillionaire status…..his business ventures will collpse, because our earning power will be insufficient.
the same applies to all his billionaire buddies.
the joke is of course, that he thinks we can be replced with AI.
but ai will not buy his cars.
I think distinction your draw between the necessary amount of oil used for essential services (like food production, transportation, and infrastructure) and the excess used for non-essential or luxuries (our “pleasures”) is valid.
However, I much prefer the term “surplus” to “excess” in this context because the latter word has negative connotations and implies a certain level of disapproval, while the former has positive and welcome connotations.
Consider: He drinks/smokes/eats to excess or he uses excessive force vs he has a surplus of alcohol/tobacco/food or the power he employs is surplus to requirements.
A surplus may be unnecessary but it is not in itself a bad thing to have or something to avoid, while an excess is something that we would be wise to try to avoid as it can be harmful.
By using “excess” here, you are strongly implying that you disapprove of the luxuries that surplus oil or surplus energy affords us. It makes you sound like an acetic hair-shirt type who agrees with the Bible verse that says, “you will eat bread by the sweat of your brow until you return to the ground.”
Somehow, I don’t think you really believe luxuries are “a waste” or, as the Puritans would say, “sinful.” But perhaps there is a Puritanical streak in your thinking stemming from growing up during the great depression?
Norm’s greatest quality is his implicit anti-civ structural analysis. It makes him one of the original gangsters of peak oil theory. Structural surpluses are structurally excessive because they require year on year increases.
IOW, the surpluses are never enough!
Welcome to civilization! Huh Norm? 💪🫡
lol reante—by definition, our surpluses can never be enough.
the higher civilisation lifts itself, as a biological species, the more it must consume—that has nothing to do with ”anti civilisation”. its called physical necessity.
but then, i’ve noticed that you always have some difficulty in separating mental fantasy (aka wishful thinking) from physical reality. (The term ”higher civ” is laughably one of them)
peak oil is probably an irrelavance.
we will consume our surpluses to fuel our lifestyle and fight our wars. (as we have done for the last 150 years or so)—when we have done that, consumption will die back.
Oil will then stay in the ground.
when we can no longer consume, our species will revert to normality, which is effectively a ”walking pace” existence, which is common to most species.
In case you missed the point, we did that for 1m years or more. Our current lifestyle has existed for 150 years.
make of that what you will.—dont let my comment interfere with your wishful thinking.
on the other hand, you may know of a way to obtain material progress without material consumption.
please share it. (but no daydreams perleeeze)
I’ve never once used the term higher civilization Norm.
Notice that I did say your structural analysis is implicitly anti-civ. Thanks for confirming that it is not explicitly anti-civ to yourself; that would require a transitive quality to your thinking.
LOL, LOL, & LMFAO Norman.
Ingenuity is what allows us to generate a surplus. It’s the first step.
The world’s oldest known wheel is currently the Ljubljana Marshes Wheel, a 5,100 to 5,350-year-old wooden wheel discovered in Slovenia in 2002. Made of ash and oak, it is thought to have been part of a two-wheeled cart and is currently on display at the City Museum of Ljubljana.
I expect you thought Melania Trump was Slovenia’s only contribution to civilization, didn’t you?
How far back the ingenious invention of the wheel actually goes is anyone’s guess. The earliest examples have long since vanished. But once invented, the wheel has never been abandoned. It’s just too damn good at aiding us in obtaining a surplus through all sorts of activities.
In the New World, it seems that nobody had the ingenuity to invent wheeled transport. Which is kind of amazing in view of the fact they were capable of building huge pyramids.
The Maya people knew about wheels as they built toys with wheels, but they never used wheels for transport or anything practical until the Europeans came and showed them.
The Inca people built cities and huge stone structures such as Machu Picchu, a 15th-century citadel high in the Andes, where they grew potatoes. But they never even so much as invented a wheelbarrow to carry their potatoes to the storehouse or a cart to transport them to market.
And we acknowledge that the Maya and the Inca peoples were civilized.
Jared Diamond has made excuses for the Maya and the Inca’s relative lack of progress as civilizations, such as lack of suitable candidates for draft animals, and the relative difficulty in moving long distances given the terrain of the American contents in contrast with the Old World, which limited the spread of trade, technology, and ideas. But the fact is, for whatever reason, these people lacked the wherewithal for innovation.
If we in the West voluntarily give up on further innovation because we don’t believe it is attainable, then we will certainly fall back into a poorer and less affluent state.
If that happens, then some other people, some other group, or some other civilization will find a way to use innovation to carry on human progress to the next stage.
It is quite natural for most people to lack the imagination to be able to visualize potential futures. But just because we cannot personally imagine something is no guarantee that it won’t happen.
I imagine that when the first Slovenian wheelwright was banging together the first Slovenian wheel, all his Slovenian neighbors were staring and jeering at him and saying to each other the proto-Slovenian equivalent of “LOL!”
Surpluses are what allow us to feed extra children and build new roads. Without surpluses, the system tends to collapse.
Entropy is constantly causing existing systems to decay. They repairs are frequently needed on roads and bridges. Vehicles wear out. We need surpluses to replace broken parts,
There is also interest on debt. Growth (permitted by growing energy supply) leads to the surpluses that allow principle to be paid back with interest. Without energy-based growth, debt doesn’t work well. Defaults/forgiveness/jubilees are needed in addition.
surplus is where our luxury comes from
100 years ago, indoor sanitation was the preserve of better class homes, an indoor cold tap, not much better, a purpose built indoor bathroom the same, heating was by coal fire, central heating almost unheard of, aircon unknown.
a working man rode a bike if he was lucky…
all the above was a big improvement on 150 years previously, and was entirely due to the burst of energy released by the industrial revolution of the 17/1800s—but it was largely coal fired.
coal, as a store of energy, is restricted by its bulk..
WW2 was an oil-war….and unleashed the full potential of oil in the subsequent peace that followed. WW2 showed just how much oil was available, and just how cheap it was—and most important of all just how much profit could be made from it.
now, even modest homes expect 2 bathrooms, central heating, double glazing luxury kitchens and so on, probably at least 2 cars, unlimited flights for all to spend 2 weeks on beach somewhere.
All the above pays wages. and gives us ”growth”. All due to cheap oil.
All that, and the money to pay for it, came from our oil surpluses. The American dream started in 1945, and ended in 1970 when debt replaced oil surplus.
the world economy has been freewheeling since 1970. Most see economics in terms of 4 year political terms….the world has a different timetable.
We have borrowed money at a faster and faster rate, to counterbalance our growing ‘energy debt’. (a normal human trait btw)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35OFHci7BzM
Victor David Hanson, owner of a large farm in the central valley of California, 100 million dollars?, says immigrants must obey his class, the owning class. We the survivors never signed up for your Marxist program Victor. When it was inner city Americans burning down cities to gain control for the democrat party it was all fine. Dems are rich just like us (repub). But, now poor folks want a voice and they lead by rich Indians/Muslims they are not invited to the uni-party.
Victor Davis Hanson says that Mamdani doesn’t understand Federalism and doesn’t understand history. While Mamdani may not like ICE agents, there is no way he can get rid of them or control them. The US Civil War started with an argument over Fort Sumpter in South Carolina. The Federalists fired on it, saying they were in charge. It would start a civil war to fight the Federal Government.
And let’s remember when the citizens of Manhattan rioted against the draft during the civil war, the US navy bombarded the rioters.
The south refuses to pay the tariff. The federal government responded with naval bombardment, much like bombing speed boats near Venezuela.
https://ras.ac.uk/news-and-press/research-highlights/universes-expansion-now-slowing-not-speeding
“The universe’s expansion may actually have started to slow rather than accelerating at an ever-increasing rate as previously thought, a new study suggests.
“Remarkable” findings published today in Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society cast doubt on the long-standing theory that a mysterious force known as ‘dark energy’ is driving distant galaxies away increasingly faster.”
Hm, another shocker, are we living inside [post peak universe] instead?
The unholly merger of PPU + PO mega trends !
https://ras.ac.uk/sites/default/files/styles/image_full_content/public/2025-10/Figure%201.jpg
Looks like the data are slowly walking back the dark energy nonsense.
Also, if I understand it correctly, this new re-calibration has been done by Asian team, while the prior debates and conclusion has been derived by Western scientists..
not just western, dear. the chosen ones. everything is a psyop.
another Nobel Prize in physics
Ed, the Global South needs to improve its soft power. For example, it could create its own Nobel prize equivalent. As I get older, the scales fall off and I am disappointed to see that even science has always been politicized.
I know Ed. I will continue to roll eyes when nobels are invoked,
Economic disinflation doesn’t mean that economic expansion is no longer happening so why should the disinflation of dark energy mean otherwise? Why would you say that this new finding confirms that the dark energy, that is credited for the expansion of the known (part of the) universe, must , now, not exist, even though the new finding maintains that the visible universe is expanding?
Some labeled dynamic has to explain universal expansion otherwise this part of the universe wouldn’t be expanding. And there’s ample hard evidence for it besides.
Could it be that our tape measures are shrinking?
Or might the increasing doppler “red shift” observed in the electromagnetic radiation from intergalactic objects with their increasing distance from our galaxy be a consequence of said radiation decreasing in frequency when traveling over immense amounts of time or of space, or of time itself slowing down over very very very very long distances?
Must be those little blue pills we took. I don’t know how you can think about astrophysics right now. Norm, you okay?
Tim I’m open to the known part of the universe not being in expansion but I’d need to see a superior argument regarding it, that I’m able to wrap my head around. Years ago, for example, I found myself in agreement with Miles Mathis’ heterodox analysis of planetary ellipses.
My reply to drb was only the analogizing of economic dynamics in order to reveal the logical fallacy I saw.
This would also add support to the overall simulation run, lab experiment, .. , playground to “bored” gods (ancient Eastern ClubMed – Levant philosophies / religions , .. type of scenarios of our existence.
How so?
I’m certainly not claiming to be (also) an astrophysicist but the new sampled data and explanation tend to suggest the cosmos is more like A->B affair, meaning cohesive start and end point entity and quite likely already past its most active burning phase so to speak.
However, certainly NOT being some hairbrain runaway forever accelerating mess from nothing to everything as msm narrated for past several decades..
From that I derived in simplistic terms (for myself) that’s indeed a point scoring in favor of confined kind of universe, which again fits these human perception explanations I mentioned in previous post above.
Not definitive confirmation per se just hinting in that direction..
No worries we’re all astrophysicists at OFW. Safe space.
Agree with you again jak on the finite universe, as I’m partial to the toroidal universe idea myself which means that the dark energy related acceleration/deceleration is always going to be variable which is what this study supports.
But still don’t see how a confined, cyclical universe supports simulation theory. Sorry to go on about it.
As above, so below.
https://depopulation.news
Dear Duq_de_CBs (ex-formerly-JR.formerly-BHH-or-previously-Treviso-etc)
if it is not a problem for you, I’d like to ask you why you add every time your complete and long name.
Is it because you want to be sure not to forget it, or because you want not to be forgotten by all your friends?
Or something else?
Many thanks for your feedback.
Dear Student,
I’m using a bit weird IT setup so it’s auto-prefilled ID-name for each new post..
Yes, it evolved from running joke aimed towards the [old friends at OFW over the previous yrs/decades] into sort of obnoxious presence on this forum. I’m certainly not planning to use it “next time” over here as well..
Your style reminds me of the commenter Worldofhanuman who used to write at OFW some years ago. If I am correct, whats wrong with the old name? (And welcome back, always interesting to read your comments).
Yes, looking at that long ugly name virtually triggers a migraine. 🙁
Christopher, thank you for these kind words.
I can’t officially confirm it nor deny it.. For one thing, it could be a bit annoying always recipient under that shorthand “Worldof..” but perhaps more likely and importantly a crash of net connecting gadget wiping out the login..
People could harbor lot of inner diverse personalities, some tend to be too impatient. As we recently discussed here that Rogoff’s ” U ” shaped graph (updated edition) – in terms of “timing the collapse” then it really doesn’t matter time-wise now, some sort of *big reset or wider war as Gail mentions these days is definitively (due) on the near horizon within one-two decades max..
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* [French revolution, Napoleonic Wars and global reorder aftermath] scale which was by at least one category up from WWII cumulative effects, ~per capita, obviously very different societies, different world’s theaters, ~125yrs apart..
The universe is still expanding, but the rate of expansion is now slowing.
According to the article:
this combined analysis indicates that the universe is not accelerating today as previously thought, but has already transitioned into a state of decelerated expansion.
Professor Lee added: “In the DESI project, the key results were obtained by combining uncorrected supernova data with baryonic acoustic oscillations measurements, leading to the conclusion that while the universe will decelerate in the future, it is still accelerating at present.
“By contrast, our analysis — which applies the age-bias correction — shows that the universe has already entered a decelerating phase today. Remarkably, this agrees with what is independently predicted from BAO-only or BAO+CMB analyses, though this fact has received little attention so far.”
https://www.thedefensenews.com/news-details/China-Unveils-the-Worlds-First-Thorium-Powered-Cargo-Ship-Carry-up-to-14000-Shipping-Containers/
Thorium reactor cargo ship. Made in China.
they will monopolize the north passage from China to north europe. too bad Europe will not be able to accept much merchandise due to being poor.
We doomers done fucked up. Turns out there are now existing energy solutions that can power the world. Looks like Dennis was right.
But perhaps not until after a long depression because it takes a log time to ramp up new energy types and to reorient society in a way that works with the new energy types
There is some detail to it. Thorium has several isotopes. The common isotope is not good for fission but is good for breeding into the isotope that is good for fission energy. This takes time.
You might ask why not just use the good stuff? The entire US supply of the good thorium isotope is stored in one tractor trailer sized shipping container that is buried in the ground at Oak Ridge National Lab. I would assume China has equally little of the good stuff. There are always details. So, yes, time for ramp up.
Of course, if China feels it needs a billion tons of fissionable thorium isotope and it will cost three trillion dollars and a factory the size of Rhode Island that is no problem just a little work. The Chinese know how to work.
Hey, maybe a Manhattan project! Mamdani and his immigrant horde can do it in NYC. The physics department of Columbia University was the start of the “Manhattan Project” hence the name. My friend in grad school in physics at Columbia worked in the 70/80s in the self same lab where he contracted cancer and died young. It is my belief that he was a death attributable to improper clean up of the lab after the Manhattan Project. My friend did have four kids before dying of cancer. They are now successful lawyers in Manhattan. I am sure their father is happy.
Have you seen what they are up to in the Gobi Ed?
https://huabinoliver.substack.com/p/china-is-one-step-closer-to-perpetual
>> it takes a log time to ramp up new energy types
Not for China. Look how they ramped up renewables. I know wind and solar are not a solution, but my point is: look how fast they ramped it. If this is real, and if one can just breed new fissile material, well then China will do it – and fast! The world can work on this plus cheap sodium ion batteries that are quickly ramping up and are not materials-constrained. There are enough fossil fuels left to power every remaining process that we don’t know how to electrify until a substitute gets figured out.
BAU 2040.
Get ready to dance all night with DJ MK ULTRAMATIC spinning the sickest beats this FRIDAY NIGHT FEVER on Nov 7th!
Mamnadi NY is partying tonight.
The anti-fragile systems theory sees this ship as nothing more than an extremely expensive, fossil fuel dependent bauble in service of hopium.
once you have the rail network working solely with diesel, yes you prepared yourself for an early demise. but china and russia will also severely decline once they run out of diesel. you can not really electrify mining got example. and you can not electrify maintenance vehicles.
Wow! China Unveils the World’s First Thorium-Powered Cargo Ship, Carry up to 14,000 Shipping Containers
According to the South China Morning Post, the newly developed vessel is powered by a 200 MW thorium molten salt reactor (TMSR) and is capable of carrying up to 14,000 standard shipping containers, making it one of the largest and most advanced nuclear-powered cargo ships ever built. . .
The vessel’s reactor uses thorium-232, a fertile element that breeds uranium-233, the actual fissile material, through a neutron absorption process. Unlike traditional uranium or pressurized-water reactors, this design operates using molten fluoride salts as both fuel and coolant, allowing the system to function at low pressure but high temperature, increasing safety and thermal efficiency.
A New Kind of Power at Sea
At the heart of the ship lies the molten salt reactor, which generates around 200 megawatts of thermal energy. This output is converted through a supercritical CO₂ Brayton cycle, achieving thermal-to-electric conversion efficiency of nearly 45–50 percent — far higher than conventional marine engines. The system also eliminates the need for vast volumes of high-pressure steam and cooling water, making it more compact and theoretically safer for maritime use.
The world seems to have plenty of thorium, even though it seems to need to be mined with other minerals. This might be another workaround, if fossil fuels are not available. I don’t know the relative cost however. Thorium power might be very expensive.
05 January 2024 Nucnet.org published China’s unveiling of plans for the vessel and those plans “boasted a load capacity of 24000 containers”. It seems they have reduced the capacity by 41% to accommodate the reactor.
https://www.nucnet.org/news/china-unveils-plans-for-largest-ever-container-ship-powered-by-thorium-reactor-1-5-2024
Dutch back down
”The Netherlands is prepared to suspend its powers over Chinese-owned chipmaker Nexperia in a move that would de-escalate a fight with Beijing that threatens to disrupt automotive production around the world.
The Dutch government is ready to shelve the ministerial order that gave it the power to block or change key corporate decisions at Nexperia, if China allows exports of its critical chips again, according to people familiar with the matter. ”
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-11-07/dutch-ready-to-drop-control-of-nexperia-if-chip-supply-resumes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_XMR-MwkS8
South Asians and Muslims as the coalition that elected Mamdani. So basically those who have children colonize the future. Basic Darwin.
We need a catchy name for South Asian.
The commentators say the voters are unhappy about being poor. Well, we know wealth comes from land, oil, IQ, or inheritance. How will Mamdani make the poor slum dwellers of NYC rich? Give them 40 acres and a mule? No, I guess not. Invest NYC money in Venezuela oil fields? No, I guess not. Invest NYC money in NYC schools? What is the average IQ of NYC? Inheritance, take it from NYCers that have family money. Taking from the rich be they mob, be they Italian, Russian, Chinese, Indian, Arab, or superior brained is unlikely to keep Mamdani alive. Basically, Darwin red of tooth and claw. Mamdani is a pretty man and his wife looks like Audrey Hepburn, pretty, he is not a gangs of New York fighter.
For those interested in a resource scarce world I recommend the movie Gangs of New York.
“We need a catchy name for South Asian.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desi
I take it you’re not a desi, then.
Thank you it is perfect. I am Polish (grand mother says never let any body know), English over on the Mayflower ICE can just F off, native Hudson Valley River valley and Connecticut River valley person.
Polish or Polish-American? Your big beard looks like a statement of some sort, but I didn’t know what kind.
My great grand parents come over from Poland around 1880. My great grand mother liked it so much she fled back to Poland. Great grand father had to cross the Atlantic to coax her back to the US. She died in her 90s and never learned English. So when the talking heads say immigrants always assimilated they are full of themselves. We did buy land and become successful business-persons.
The bread
1) lazy, don’t want to spend the effort to shave
2) it helps keep me warm in the winter. I hear there is an energy shortage coming
3) long hair and beard, homage to my one half native American grandfather (that would be the other grandfather)
4) long hair and bread, I grew up in the 60s, the family toured Europe in a VW bug twice, I sure as hell did not want to die the MIC in Vietnam.
5) counter reaction to working for IBM with my three piece suit and tie, dress for success
(Male) Nobility up to say mid 18th century used to have – cared for VERY long hair almost to their buttocks – if the vigor allowed it per given individual..
And it often did as they were the direct descendants of the <1648 turmoils generation.. hence merit / fight pre- selected lineage.
This was mostly axed during the late-Rococo degenerates and then obviously unpractical by the enlightenment "reason" driven generation; unthinkable by the time of Napoleon and hard sciences explosion at the beginning of the following century.
Yes, I hate shaving too, so I let my white stubble grow for up to a week before getting the razor out. I used to be happy to be clean-shaven all the time and only ever used an electric shaver. For some reason electric shavers just refuse to cut my stubble these days, and I’ve tried a few. My top wish would be a whisker-free face so that I didn’t have to shave any more.
So you’ve got some native American in you. Serious question – do you ever get the psychic stuff or a bit of the paranormal intruding into your life?
friendly tip from one old git to another dem
between shaves, leave your razor in a mug of hot soapy water.
that cleans the blade for the next shave, the blade will last two dozen shaves that way, at least.
or maybe you already do that.
NP wrote: “between shaves, leave your razor in a mug of hot soapy water. that cleans the blade for the next shave, the blade will last two dozen shaves that way, at least.”
I use the tip of a thin tomato-cutting knife to poke out some of the hair from the previous time, then dip the razor in cold water. I splash my face with water before I start – I’ve never used shaving cream. I’ll have to give your tip a try.
as a test—i wrote the date on the last pack of 12 blades i bought—ive just fitted the last one this week, the date on the pack was may 2023
“if you have the CIA trying to take out Madora, well, we already tried to take him out with a drone just a couple
12:17 years ago. He was speaking outside and the drone just just missed him a little bit. “?
‘California are running massive deficits, like the Federal Government does but unlike the states, the Federal Government can print more money to make payments (devaluing the currency in the process).
States have now found the next best thing to money: illegal migrants, who they sign up to various social programs and to whom they nominally provide food, shelter, daycare, schooling, Medicaid and sometimes debit cards with $10,000 – all of this, using US Taxpayer money from residents of other states via the Federal Government.
Elon says that these blue states divert a large portion of those federal funds designated for illegal migrants back to themselves to cover their state budget deficits.
Elon Musk tells Joe Rogan:
“New York and California would be bankrupt without the massive fraudulent federal payments that go to those states to pay for illegals, to create a massive financial incentive for illegals…And the reason you have this standoff is because if the hundreds of billions of dollars to create a financial incentive to have this giant magnet to attract illegals from every part of Earth to these states, if that is turned off, the illegals will leave, because they’re no longer being paid to come to the United States and stay here.”
In other words, illegal migrants have become the self-licking ice cream cone of these state governments.’?
https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/new-york-new-york/
If California is using funds from other states to attract illegal workers to California, that is indeed a problem. Of course, the Federal Government is running massive deficits also. So the money may not be from other taxpayers. It may be from deficit spending.
Meet Robin from Dublin.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/aRJz_yVDa3I
Robin is 88. His one regret is not marrying the right girl. Indecision held him back. He has no children or grandchildren.
He is a poor man.
Dennis L.
But a very wise and smart one
Come on, Dennis. It was only one regret. I know lots of guys who married the wrong girl, or indeed, married the right girl and went on to beget descendants ho they don’t get along with and are albatrosses around their necks.
Marry in haste, repent at leisure.
Nothing to expect from someone who idolizes inbred cults.
origins:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Carthy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lighterman
Carthy was born in Hatfield, Hertfordshire, England,[1] and grew up in Hampstead, North West London. His mother was an active socialist and his father, from a family of River Thames lightermen, went to grammar school and became a trade unionist and a councillor for Stepney at the age of 21.
I didn’t know about Martin Carthy’s history.
Coincidentally, my own family lived in Stepney and my grandfather was a docker at Shadwell Old Basin, part of the London Docks. Being in a reserved occupation spared him from having to fight in The first World War.
Martin is still performing beautifully at the age of 85.
It is not correct to judge a person by the number of descendants. We do not know how he lived, but he might have been a positive influence over his neighbors.
I do not envy the genetically doomed incestrous cult members.
“Love is a magic word few ever find in a lifetime.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7m8izf-oXY4 @ 2:33
Myself included.
A debt is what it is. Eventually debt turns out to be a token of disadvantage. Debt is a toothpaste that pays the dentist, funds the corporates, rots your teeth and makes you pay for it too. Smile!
What is a token?
a thing serving as a visible or tangible representation of a fact, quality, feeling, etc.
People who grew up in the Depression learned to be afraid of debt.
By about 1980 or 1981, “debt” was renamed “leverage,” and was considered a good thing. You could buy things you could never afford. You could make money faster.
But when defaults come back around, people discover how awful debt really is. Student loans in particular are disproportionately going into default now.
Yeah but the system rewards people who are in debt!!! At least in amurica!! Student loans! No problem we will pay them off… no work because of Covid? No problem here is 50 k that you don’t have to pay back! I stayed out of debt because I was raised by depression era grandparents but it seems like maybe I should take it on. Our own president showed us how he benefited from debt
I guess it’s too late unless you get wind of some scheme in the making by insiders asap..
In terms of open opportunities, loading up on debt (as tool for further applied leverage) to score giga-bigly with very low risk was for layman perhaps possible last time with the appearance of Elon’s ventures on the scene.. Or perhaps a bit more recently also in some real estate deals.
Mind you, I’m not boasting about it, I did not participated in this round – although recognized the trend from the start correctly..
Obviously, there was/is plethora of various other tech start ups but they were/are more risky, and or complete nonsense, unless you (need to) know from the wall st. mafiosi this is the real deal blackhorse stallion forged in their stables..
Count Lev Tolstoy’s stupid story, “How much land a man needs?”, can be summarized into one sentence: “Peasants , do not strive for larger land, and just be happy with what you have got!”
However, unlike 99.9% of the people who read that story, I did find a caveat. It is not in the English versions of the story readily available on the web, but it is in the translations more faithful to the original.
He and the people who were selling the land signed a deed before he began. That means he was clearly aware that he could die, but the land will remain in his family’s hands.
He gained about 1,600 acres in his day sojourn. He died as a landowner of 1,600 acres. It is irrelevant how much land was needed to bury him; until the Revolution, his family would own 1,600 acres.
Contrary to what 99.9% of the people who read that story believes, he won.
Unlike Count Tolstoy, whose estate still stands
https://youtu.be/ABnQgZdwudo?si=weoJo5gs1L-fyBA8
and whose descendant Pyotr Tolstoy is now a good toady of Putin, the guy in the story built an estate from basically nothing.
Anton Chekhov, son of a serf, became a landowner solely because of his writing ability. Tolstoy got jealous of it and took Chekhov to a trip of Siberia, which hastened the latter’s death.
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https://muse.jhu.edu/pub/1/oa_edited_volume/chapter/2476293/pdf
This shows that in Europe, generally someone who owned 250-300 acres were called a big landowner.
There were some nobles who owned 10,000 acres and up, and they feared no kings.
Even if humankind goes to space, there will be fights for claims on this asteroid or that. Battles for land will never, never end since that is the background for everything.
Yes, humans are a territorial species, very similar in many respects to other primates as well as wolves, lions, and many species of birds, fish and ants.
These animals, like humans, use a range of strategies to establish and defend their territories, which play crucial roles in their survival, resource management, and social structures.
Grazing and browsing mammals like cattle, bison, and deer exhibit varying degrees of territorial behavior, but their territoriality is generally less pronounced than that of predatory or social species
Social species are defined as groups of organisms that interact closely and cooperatively with one another, often forming complex social structures. While deer, sheep, goats, cattle, bison, caribou and musk do exhibit social behavior, and form hierarchies, their interactions tend to be less complex and they often do not engage in cooperative breeding or care for each other’s young. And while they commonly have ranges, they are not as adamant about defending their territories as the territorial species are. Although all these behaviors are a matter of degree.
I think I saw a program in which David Attenborough was explaining this in his incomparable style while he was enjoying a tea party with Jane Goodall and a family of chimpanzees.
Come to think of it, the bulk of modern urbanized humans, despite having vestigial territorial instincts, are evolving more in the direction of grazers and browsers. They graze in cafes and restaurants, and browse in supermarkets, malls, bookstores, or on the internet. And since most have very little territory for their exclusive use, they concern themselves more with their social hierarchies.
Away from the cities, we see more overt territoriality among humans. Strangers, who are ignored in the town, tend to be noted, observed, and treated with caution or suspicion if they appear in a rural community. And the local police regularly warn the community to let them know if they see any suspicious looking individuals lurking around. If a stranger doesn’t want to be treated with suspicion out in the sticks, a good strategy is to walk with a well-behaved dog. Then, magically, you are everybody’s friend.
“If a stranger doesn’t want to be treated with suspicion out in the sticks, a good strategy is to walk with a well-behaved dog. Then, magically, you are everybody’s friend.”
Yes this works for me at the cabin on the dirt road back and forth twice a day. It’s a neutral way to interact with the local farmers and meet their families when they are on the way to and from town as well the resident ravens who are starting to fly over making friendly sounds. The alpha female of the local hay contracting outfit is a dog lover of our same breed.
In classic reante fashion when I arrived to this little town I did exactly the opposite from that admittedly good strategy in acquiring a pair of young Anatolian Shepherd livestock guardian dogs that decided to dig out and defend the whole town from cougars. Of course the locals didn’t see it that way, so it became my jobs to defend the dogs from the locals’ guns, because it seemed that I was the only one who was willing to recognize that despite their intimidating appearance, the dogs were cool as cucumbers when roaming through town, never starting a fight, or needing to finish a fight, or chasing, with anyone or anything. So I defended my dogs against the guns, and very publicly on the town Facebook page by telling everyone that the dogs are doing everyone a favor by keeping the cougar out of town — and sure enough no cougar were getting picked up on game cams — and that they’re gentle with all people and not causing any problems, and that if anyone shot the dogs and couldn’t convince me that there was a legitimate reason for it, then that would be the biggest mistake of their life. And the threats stopped. And of course I got banned from the Facebook page. Also during that time twice I had someone opening up my fencing in the night to let the sheep and dogs out. I hung a .30-06 bullet from some baling twine at that spot and it never happened again.
This year in Japan, we have bear problems. Over 10 people have been killed by bears and hundreds injured, and the mass media is going on and on about it, scaring most country people to death.
It’s like those old Dracula movies. The peasants are afraid to be outside at dusk in case they meet up with you know who.
I may have to adopt your strategy of getting a couple of gentle-on-people Alsatians or Anatolians to keep the bears at bay.
Bear. Yum. My favorite so long as there are plenty of them around like it sounds there are. Here too.
Great thread!
In terms of acreage in wider European context – it’s really very varied concept. For example some semi-desert largish place in southern France/Spain/Italy could be worthless these days, while just few tiny acres in the Alps could be the oppo$ite extreme.
Also changing weather patterns play a role even a bit up north nowadays, people are gradually turning prime vineyard acreage into different more weather/drought tolerating fruits/produce.. , and that drops the former extreme valuation down as well.
The bottom line in terms of availability, the landmass vs pop ratio still stands, so you could use multiples say of 5x or 10x for sizing acreage on the very same budget in US/CAN vs EU.. It’s still almost for ~free across the ocean if you don’t mind remote location.. and other /specifics/.
“people are gradually turning prime vineyard acreage into different more weather/drought tolerating fruits/produce”
Other way around where I live. Apple, pear and plum farming have been cut massively and replaced with vine(decent soil for White wine and I’m assuming bigger profits). This mostly happened just as we were leaving the EU. When I was a child there used to be hops growing in a large percentage. You’d struggle to find a single hop farm today(we joined the EU around that time).
We’ve gone from hops and fruit, to wine and rapeseed.
The Alps are already owned by the descendants of the European high nobility, and some parts by new money, what do you expect?
Interestingly, things may have been more egalitarian then. Th current Minister of agriculture, for example, owns 600000 hectares, which makes it 1000 times bigger than Tolstoy.
Most of the posters here would be aware of the old show Bonanza, a Western show which aired in early 1960s.
More of a soap opera than a Western, it told the story of a family which owned the huge Ponderosa ranch somewhere in the West, 2,000 sq mi (2.6 million acres – later it was scaled down a bit to 2.0mil acres), about 80% larger than Rhode Island (1,110 sq mi)
For reasons unknown , the family’s 3 sons all ended the show being unmarried, when even the family’s Chinese cook got to marry a white woman, a union technically illegal but since it was approved by the family no one objected.
When I talk about landowners, I talk about such kind of family, not some small holders who might hold a few acres.
Land might not increase in value, but their owner does not care. He (usually he) does not care who is the President, how high is the dollar/Dow/Nasdaq/BTC, etc.
As long as the land is in his control, he controls basically everyone living in his influence. They are , for all practical purposes, his property. No one who crosses him can really live there.
Human innovation? Ingenuity? If they harm the landowner’s ability to keep his land, they are harmful and usually they are quashed.
https://youtu.be/mXn6Y25ljiM?si=BCH9rP4DLt2Rvceb
Tree of Wooden Clogs, 1978
It is way sanitized, since the family who cut the landowner’s tree to make a clog for a boy is just vanished. My grandparents told me that there would be a fire in that kind of family’s shack and no one would dare to extinguish it.
A landowner has a life-or-death authority over the residents there. And they would fight to death to maintain such rights.
The democrat party has been about every perversion possible like surgically castrating six year old boys. Now some faction want to return to helping the workers. This has the party leader going wild. Money for the super rich is scared to do otherwise is a sin against Baal, Satan, the Rich, AI, human sacrifice (ie Gaza). The repub leaders are in alignment with the dem leadership.
I suggest it will be a quick pivot to war, big war, a draft. Where the government extols the virtue of sacrifice, service, honor, obedience. A war so loud no discussion of the impoverishment of the 99.99% will not be allowed.
What is needed is a ground war with lots of dead Americans. I pick Venezuelan and/or Mexico.
It is hard to kill many Americans in these places. Too close to home
>> The democrat party has been about every perversion possible like surgically castrating six year old boys.
I hope that before it’s all over, these people will be criminally prosecuted.
>> I suggest it will be a quick pivot to war, big war, a draft.
This cannot happen in today’s day and age. Western countries have been so inundated with foreigners that the sense of community and nationalism is utterly destroyed, as was the intent. No one will fight on behalf of a society that is not one’s own.
There is an interesting work of a Russian scholar of the 50s emigrating to the US. He correlated historical behaviour to sun spots. He found cycles of lethargic passivity and cycles of overshooting revolutionary movement. Lots of psyop underway today. People will take their revenge and it will be necessary to replace obedience by own action and regional coherence. They will sacrifice the rich. The devil betrays his followers.
Our problems are bigger than that!
/////The democrat party has been about every perversion possible like surgically castrating six year old boys////
ed—Gail allows free expression of most subjects.
i must assume you have proof of such an inane statement?
or, like certain other inmates and ex inmates of OFW, you compete with yourself to find things to say which will gain attention, where otherwise everyone would ignore you?
(Such as RL?)
endless google results for chemical castration of children over the objection of their fathers.
Plenty of court rulings that leave surgical castration up to the will solely of the mother.
I will admit google will not tell me of surgical castrations. That is far from knowing it does not happen.
In the US female sexual mutilation is practiced in the Muslim community. Without law enforcement interference. How about UK?
fgm is a criminal act
so is circumcision in my opinion.
surgical male castration is nowhere ”up to the will of the mother”
dont be ridiculous.
It is in various court rulings in the US. These involve fights between the biological father and the mother.
while there might be doubt if a baby is male or female at birth., this is an known and rare condition…might be a cause of dispute in the far beyond regions of american hillybillydom.
no one is ”surgically castrating” six year old boys.
where dyou think you are—a medieval italian choir or something
I agree with you on circumcision being a criminal act.
I need you to pay attention to this. The number of “zombie companies” that can’t earn enough to cover their interest expenses hit the highest level since early 2022, with almost 100 gaining the designation in October. These companies gorged on debt at near-zero rates during the pandemic and are now getting crushed by higher funding costs and tariffs.
https://x.com/HedgieMarkets/status/1984771806662660286/photo/1
Good they should be disposed of. Shutdown, broken up, sold off.
No argument. Is it perhaps cheaper to subsidize these companies to do something which makes some money toward their salaries? Society needs to be held together; based on the economic thoughts here, the future is not the same as the past.
Unless of course, a cubic mile of Pt. Groan. Holland agriculture has tractors which run on H and CH4.
We are not going to do the future in the same way as we did the past. Change is not comfortable.
Dennis L.
I agree. But that is not our system. In a system with government planning for the common good we would re-work these into pro-society enterprises. But we have winner take all live or die crony capitalism.
I sound like a broken record but decline rates are flying below the radar . So I try to keep reminding myself and others .
” US shale/tight #oil need to add ~3.6 mmb/d of new production just to offset declines and keep production flat at ~9 mmb/d.
Chord Energy highlights its low base decline rate of 34%.
Its table of unnamed peer group looks to have an overall base decline of ~40%. If US shale/tight oil of ~9 mmb/d has a 40% base decline, it means the US has to add~3.6 mmb/d of new oil production just to keep production flat. ”
https://x.com/Energy_Tidbits/status/1986268824887349573/photo/1
This is a reason for maybe ramping up Venezuela oil? Can this be done in a timely efficient manner?
Simple answer — NO . I have several times outlined the technical reasons (both here and on Quarks blog ) but my view on the current situation . Trump is an idiot — VZ is a product of Marco Rubio who not only hates Trump but despises him . This is Marco’s play for the next Presidential elections . Rubio and Gabbard will resign after the next midterm elections in 2026 to start campaigning . Now another thought is if Trump looses the next midterm expect the Dems to start impeachment proceedings .
DJT is nuts . He wants a war against Venezuela , Nigeria , Greenland and a tariff war against the world .
Does he have the power to actually get a war going?
Even if the Venezuela gambit succeeds, extremely unlikely IMO, its crude reserves, though enormous, are very thick with & sour, one step up from Alberta tar sands, and will require very high prices to make them a feasible proposition.
We need the experts to tell us how much it will cost to use VZ oil. I suggest new thermal only nuclear plants using spent rods from the existing nukes. Used just to make heat to flow the VZ syrup over to help break it down. Clearly I know nothing about oil refining. Help.
Experts? Overeducated liars who will say whatever those paying them want to hear?
We should be considering the dynamics of Tethered stablecoin MMT dynamics when thinking about VZ oil extractability.
Peak Oil is an affordability metric largely based on global financial debt dynamics because insolvency makes stuff unaffordable no matter how cheap it might otherwise be in real terms.
The HTOE has always held that, if the oil is extractable, VZ will become a voluntary oil protectorate of the US because that best serves MPP during Phase 2 of collapse. And voluntary because it’s clear to me that the cost/benefit analysis of an involuntary regime change would be negative.
When the barrel price drops, the inversely pegged real dollar value increases. Every dollar buys more oil. The problem with that though is that the price only dropped because there are fewer dollars around. And by dollars, in this context, we are talking about the private Federal Reserve Notes.
Enter stablecoins (digital Lincoln Greenbacks), a parallel public currency financial system that is effectively Treasury-issued and mimicks the reserve currency function because it gets to share the petrodollar status with FRNs by a sleight of the Hand. A new financial system gets to blow a whole new global financial bubble from scratch. A bubble capable of dwarfing the AI bubble. Meditate on that. It is a bubble powered by the a Great Depressionary global flight to safety by every individual and every institution with a phone app and a desire to flee from the imploding global private financial system.
Now of course, the notional number of FRNs disappearing from the system will far outnumber the number of stablecoin issuances. There’s no avoiding that because that’s what will define the megadepressionary collapse in financial terms, and this is already underway obviously. But we’ll know that the parallel stablecoin system will have overtaken the private banking system , and that national socialism is the new global architecture, when we see FRN dollar accounts themselves getting cashed-out for stablecoins even though there’s no material benefit to those transactions beyond a perceived benefit because parallel dollars are still both dollar and dollar cash is king. Not long after that point the deflation of the private dollar system will have run it’s course and it will go the way of the dodo.
Extremely low barrel prices will mean extremely high real FRN and stablecoin value, and hyperinflating non-reserve currencies fleeing into them for currency stability and real value. The depression will kill consumer culture and the national socialisms (which have the same structural ability to prioritize investment that capitalism does) will focus on the necessities of survival. A far larger percentage of the zero-point (debtwise) digital greenbacks based new system will be allocated to oil extraction than what the current, insolvent FRN system is able to allocate, and given that it will be a financial bubble that only has a few existential years to run, it will be turbocharged by MMT but more overtly than the MMT-style policies that enabled China’s astronomical growth. We’ll find out if this act of GENIUS will be able to ramp up VZ production.
Standard complexity/systems theory of Collapse, based on the global private financial system says no, but some new shit is coming to light here dude, so the systems theory may need to adapt. No one ever considered how a parallel public dollar without a debt burden could seamlessly replace the private dollar like so many Joe Biden body doubles. I always expected a digital greenback but I wasn’t curious enough or perhaps even smart enough to figure out the seamlessness. But then again it’s not my job to do that.
What are FRN and Mr? Stand for? I read your essay twice and still don’t understand it but I have heard a lot of talk about stablecoins running out the game a little bit longer
FRN means federal reserve notes. The privatized dollar of the Federal Reserve.
MMT means Modern Monetary Theory
MPP means the Maximum Power Principle
Thanks for reading it twice, sorry it wasn’t more comprehensible.
That’s interesting that you’ve been hearing a lot of that talk. Myself, I don’t see that stablecoins will be running out the game a bit longer. The privatized central banking game is the only game in town, and nothing will stop it from collapsing shortly. I see stablecoins as merely being for cushioning and stabilizing the fall to a giant several -year-long step down that sees something like a 50pc dieoff, like I said yesterday, and that’s no longer a game. You must be hearing talk by non- peak oil people. Without the stablecoin system, it would be total collapse.
And of course, GENIUS is an acronym meaning Global Energy Nexus Integrated by the United States. 🙂
Moreover, Trump likes to refer to himself as a “stable genius.” Hence the name “stablecoins,” which are digital coins created by a stable genius.
reante> I was a bit hesitant about this scenario of yours, but that was perhaps on my individual mal -perception (un appreciation) how the world HAS changed so quickly recently. I realized how the younger generations – I mean born ~1970 and younger would just get all worked up for digi (stable) money on their phones come true times of crisis..
The mental shift from considering real assets such as land outside of metro areas and or any other production related commodities is staggering.
It took just a few human generations to reformat the minds.
That’s perhaps the most sobering vision forward while the privatepublic digital money switcheroo is in the end not that crucial (for me).
Very powerful-Interesting reminder on those ~recent decades of MMT flooding channeled through China.. !
That depicts the sheer power of nudged money issuance as nothing else out there.. THANKS
ps I guess you perhaps already addressed it before but the panic run into national stable coin(s) would be likely [world realm] distributed, so at least two larger blocks emerging: Western/US and Asian proprietary versions..
Totally understand the hesitancy, jak. Trust has to be earned.
No, I think the stablecoin deal is gonna be a dollar black hole. I now that sounds hard to believe but I think the fundamentals bear it out. This world was built out with dollars and still uses dollars for more than half of all transactions. A country that does not use dollars during phase 2 no longer exists. Chasing dollars in order to chase FF will be priority numero uno just like it is now.
Only 1% of stablecoins are currently not in USD. At this close juncture to the collapse of private finance capitalism, that tells us all we need to know about the future of non-USD stablecoins. The Digital Greenback starts out with a natural monopoly and has a gale force deflationary wind at its back.
Formal MMT requires State capitalism. We have to remember that national socialism is also an economic system with capital markets and, therefore, NS has the sociological flexibility to engage in a nationalized MMT.
Here’s a pretty technical look at China’s incorporation of MMT:
https://www.millbrook.org/list-detail?pk=222698
Trump may try to capture and occupy the oilfields, Ala Syria. The excuse will be identical to Syria….that Maduro is an evil dictator, just like Assad was. Simply export the oil to the US and deny the rest of the country of revenue. The rest of the country can be left to itself in poverty, with the hope for internal (with American help) regime change.
The cost of extraction is one of the risks of course….is the gambit worth it?
But I think Trump is risking much internal support if he creates another US base requiring troops and resources. ie. another forever war. Venezuela is a different place than Syria also. Syria was mostly desert….which meant fairly easy to defend the US bases and the oilfields. Easy to detect and stop infiltration of opposing groups. The US also had implicit support in Syria from Jordan, Turkey and the Kurds. And of course their bases in Iraq.
In Venezuela, anti-US resources and support could flow to the area through the mountains, jungles and surrounding countries. It could turn into a quagmire.
It feels like a different situation. The sea access changes a lot. Sea drones are a growing part of warfare.
please repeat for the slow/me.
Good post by Mike Shellman
https://www.oilystuff.com/group/engineering-and-geological-discussions/discussion/3d5b1ab8-2f7c-4f6a-b2d2-a741f851d9b2
He also pointed to this from the EIA, pretty big legacy decline for tight oil in the US for wells completed in 2024 results in L48 legacy decline rates in 2024 from 11 Mb/d to 6.7 Mb/d about 39% per year for all US L48 C+C. If we look at only wells completed in 2023, the annual decline rate for those wells is about 60% in their first year of output. Bottom line is we need about 4.3 Mb/d of output from new wells each year just to keep output flat, it will become more and more difficult to accomplish this over time.
https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=66564
The oil market isn’t running out of demand… it’s running out of fields.
Most producing oil fields have already peaked.
– 80% of global oil production now comes from post-peak fields
– 10% from fields that have yet to reach their peak
The era of easy oil is over… decline is the new normal.
The problem:
If we assume historic oil demand growth and want to maintain current production levels, over 13 mb/d of new supply must come from new fields.
With global spare capacity at roughly 3 mb/d, that still leaves a 10 mb/d gap, almost the size of US crude production, the world’s largest producer.
And it comes at a time when it takes up to 20 years from exploration to development
The solution:
Only a sustained period of elevated oil prices can incentivize the exploration and development needed to replace declining production.
https://x.com/ekwufinance/status/1985050845549933018/photo/1
The crazies have taken over the asylum . The company bids $ 50 million for 280 acres .
”This lease bonus of $50MM plus for 280 acres of Federal BLM acreage in Eddy County sets a new world record for stupidity and unethical use of shareholders money. You can’t even drill a well on this tract, so the winning bidder, by one dollar per net acre, by the way, is clearly a contiguous Lessee needing more acreage to drill a longer lateral. Like Exxon, or EOG, or Devon. Whatever; I am not even going to bother with going thru the economics on this. It would be a waste of time. ”
It works out to $ 180 ,000 per acre — ridiculous .
https://www.oilystuff.com/group/engineering-and-geological-discussions/discussion/b162e131-69f5-44e7-8a72-ad58c5ed4cbf
Another part of “the solution” is triage, preferred/most favored trade partner deals only etc.
For example, the recent EU-Gulf states negotiations revealed rather different pecking order in today’s world. Basically, EU tried to force “de-growth” aka rationing measures externally on her energy suppliers (domestic market) as well.
The response? [Buzz off punk!]
Well, we could have very soon experience new situation in which say a former colonial status African country (now under Chinese umbrella for mining) would get prioritized in Gulf energy imports vs European countries.. ha!
Is anyone else seeing this? Drastic oil shortages by the 2030’s ? That’s pretty close; I think a Great Depression would put it off for a while longer. Maybe that’s the plan.
https://futurocienciaficcionymatrix.blogspot.com/?m=1
Announced job cuts last month climbed by more than 153,000, according to a report by Challenger, Gray & Christmas released Thursday, up 175% from the same month a year earlier and the highest October increase since 2003. Layoff announcements surpassed more than a million in first 10 months of this year, an increase of 65% compared to the same period last year.
“This is the highest total for October in over 20 years, and the highest total for a single month in the fourth quarter since 2008. Like in 2003, a disruptive technology is changing the landscape,” the report said.
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/11/06/economy/job-layoff-announcements-challenger
For how many additional months/yrs will the gullible public at large believe the narrative – it’s just because of the AI replacing regular jobs – not overall onset of econ depression perhaps in some sync sequence with declared gov/biz insolvency ..
Time for the delusionists to pop ip and peddle their oet theories as a coping mechanism for denying the inevitable.
Today’s tariff ruling is much bigger than most people realize:
If Supreme Court strikes down Trump’s tariffs, the US Treasury will face a MASSIVE refund liability.
This potential liability is expected to be up to $1 TRILLION to importers.
Why?
Because, if the Supreme Court rules the tariffs are illegal, tariff payments are considered “wrongly collected taxes.”
These tariffs have been applied to 150+ countries and nearly every product.
Today’s ruling will reshape the global economy regardless of the direction it goes.
Trump says it’s “life or death” for the US.
Please read comments below the post ;
https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/1986147503474155664
Nissan sells, leases back headquarters in $643 million deal ..
(The context: deal through local Asian freshly printed out banking money, lolz)
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/nissan-sells-yokohama-headquarters-643-million-part-restructuring-2025-11-06/
Last gasps . It has tried to sell itself to Toyota but Toyota backed out . It tried a merger with Mitsubishi again that failed . Just an effort to raise cash to keep it on life support . Even the BOJ has given up on Nissan .
Next in line Stellantis . EU is desperately trying to avoid the bankruptcy . $ 39 Billion of debt .
Great reporting Ravi (as usual).
Too bad that in the final moment of Stellantis rupture, all the shiny Jeeps in front of the dealerships would be snapped for pennies just in few minutes by the very insiders themselves..
Hopefully, the PSA assembly lines for the delivery-small cargo vans workhorses of the economy (Berlingo/Partner) could be set aside/saved by .fr govs as strategic industry and let keep on going.. These carz are basically the same for decades, already paid out.
Fakebook earned $ 16 billion ( 10% of revenue) by scams advertising .https://www.reuters.com/investigations/meta-is-earning-fortune-deluge-fraudulent-ads-documents-show-2025-11-06/?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_campaign=Daily-Briefing&utm_term=110625&lctg=6172ebcc7b7689137461306f
“Among its responses to suspected rogue marketers: charging them a premium for ads – and issuing reports on ’Scammiest Scammers.’ ”
People using the internet soon get the idea that very little they see advertised on the internet can believed.
Of course, they should be getting a similar idea from network television.
Queue Bill Hick’s most famous dictum here.
I use Brave which includes ad block. I avoid anything that has ads in it. Your blog, and several substacks are my only social media type things. I do my best to buy everything I need second hand. Craigslist used to be great for that… but, Ive noticed FaceBook’s MarketPlace (which I dont use) has eviscerated that.
I believe its our solemn duty to reject ads. Thats the only way to keep the B.S. Economy from destroying everything.
”Meta is hiding $30 billion in AI infrastructure debt off its balance sheet using special purpose vehicles, echoing the financial engineering that triggered Enron’s collapse and the 2008 mortgage crisis. Morgan Stanley estimates tech firms will need $800 billion from private credit in off-balance-sheet deals by 2028. UBS notes AI debt building at $100 billion per quarter “raises eyebrows for anyone that has seen credit cycles.”
https://x.com/HedgieMarkets/status/1986226020924719198/photo/1
The following post was written in 2021 and it attempts to explain the COVID plandemic as an exercise conducted in the context of the economic crisis that was developing in the years immediately preceding the pandemic declaration. How on the money, Fabio was, I can’t judge, but this is a very good read. Apologies for reproducing such a big chunk of it here, but it is merely the introduction. The entire article is a lot longer.
COLLAPSE AND PANDEMIC SIMULATION
BY FABIO VIGHI
Ayear and a half after the arrival of Virus, some may have started wondering why the usually unscrupulous ruling elites decided to freeze the global profit-making machine in the face of a pathogen that targets almost exclusively the unproductive (over 80s). Why all the humanitarian zeal? Cui bono? Only those who are unfamiliar with the wondrous adventures of GloboCap can delude themselves into thinking that the system chose to shut down out of compassion. Let us be clear from the start: the big predators of oil, arms, and vaccines could not care less about humanity.
Follow the money
In pre-Covid times, the world economy was on the verge of another colossal meltdown. Here is a brief chronicle of how the pressure was building up:
June 2019: In its Annual Economic Report, the Swiss-based Bank of International Settlements (BIS), the ‘Central Bank of all central banks’, sets the international alarm bells ringing. The document highlights “overheating […] in the leveraged loan market”, where “credit standards have been deteriorating” and “collateralized loan obligations (CLOs) have surged – reminiscent of the steep rise in collateralized debt obligations [CDOs] that amplified the subprime crisis [in 2008].” Simply stated, the belly of the financial industry is once again full of junk.
9 August 2019: The BIS issues a working paper calling for “unconventional monetary policy measures” to “insulate the real economy from further deterioration in financial conditions”. The paper indicates that, by offering “direct credit to the economy” during a crisis, central bank lending “can replace commercial banks in providing loans to firms.”
15 August 2019: Blackrock Inc., the world’s most powerful investment fund (managing around $7 trillion in stock and bond funds), issues a white paper titled Dealing with the next downturn. Essentially, the paper instructs the US Federal Reserve to inject liquidity directly into the financial system to prevent “a dramatic downturn.” Again, the message is unequivocal: “An unprecedented response is needed when monetary policy is exhausted and fiscal policy alone is not enough. That response will likely involve ‘going direct’”: “finding ways to get central bank money directly in the hands of public and private sector spenders” while avoiding “hyperinflation. Examples include the Weimar Republic in the 1920s as well as Argentina and Zimbabwe more recently.”
2-24 August 2019: G7 central bankers meet in Jackson Hole, Wyoming, to discuss BlackRock’s paper along with urgent measures to prevent the looming meltdown. In the prescient words of James Bullard, President of the St Louis Federal Reserve: “We just have to stop thinking that next year things are going to be normal.”
15-16 September 2019: The downturn is officially inaugurated by a sudden spike in the repo rates (from 2% to 10.5%). ‘Repo’ is shorthand for ‘repurchase agreement’, a contract where investment funds lend money against collateral assets (normally Treasury securities). At the time of the exchange, financial operators (banks) undertake to buy back the assets at a higher price, typically overnight. In brief, repos are short-term collateralized loans. They are the main source of funding for traders in most markets, especially the derivatives galaxy. A lack of liquidity in the repo market can have a devastating domino effect on all major financial sectors.
17 September 2019: The Fed begins the emergency monetary programme, pumping hundreds of billions of dollars per week into Wall Street, effectively executing BlackRock’s “going direct” plan. (Unsurprisingly, in March 2020 the Fed will hire BlackRock to manage the bailout package in response to the ‘COVID-19 crisis’).
19 September 2019: Donald Trump signs Executive Order 13887, establishing a National Influenza Vaccine Task Force whose aim is to develop a “5-year national plan (Plan) to promote the use of more agile and scalable vaccine manufacturing technologies and to accelerate development of vaccines that protect against many or all influenza viruses.” This is to counteract “an influenza pandemic”, which, “unlike seasonal influenza […] has the potential to spread rapidly around the globe, infect higher numbers of people, and cause high rates of illness and death in populations that lack prior immunity”. As someone guessed, the pandemic was imminent, while in Europe too preparations were underway (see here and here).
18 October 2019: In New York, a global zoonotic pandemic is simulated during Event 201, a strategic exercise coordinated by the Johns Hopkins Biosecurity Center and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
21-24 January 2020: The World Economic Forum’s annual meeting takes place in Davos, Switzerland, where both the economy and vaccinations are discussed.
23 January 2020: China puts Wuhan and other cities of the Hubei province in lockdown.
11 March 2020: The WHO’s director general calls Covid-19 a pandemic. The rest is history.
For more ……..
https://thephilosophicalsalon.com/a-self-fulfilling-prophecy-systemic-collapse-and-pandemic-simulation/
Of course, the Rockefeller Report of 2010 set up four different scenarios of the future. One of them involved co-ordinated responses to a pandemic. So this idea had been well thought through, previously. It was called “Lock Step” I believe.
https://archive.org/details/scenarios-for-the-future-of-technology-and-international-development-rockefeller-foundation-2010/page/n1/mode/2up
In my view, at the moment we are living in the (let’s call it) second option scenario.
The fight for finite resources is still going on with the well-know game of ‘musical chairs’, the one you Gail have already well described in your articles.
But, in a first step, governments thought to reduce international trade and consume of resources through pandemics and vaccinations, which of course involved deaths also ‘inside your own field’.
On the contrary, now, new forces have arrived pursuing the same objective, but obtaining that through wars.
I think we cannot escape from these 2 options.
On my side, I prefer not to die by hands of my own government and so, I consider less painful to risk to die for a war.
In fact, injecting in your blood some experimental vaccine created by the pharmaceutical industrial complex, it is like playing russian roulette.
And not with 1 bullet on 6, but like with 5 bullets on 6, because if you don’t die, your health is anyway damaged in other ways that you could find in the following years, like they are emerging now.
To describe this example I add a scene of ‘The deer hunter’ movie.
Hi I’m circling back on the airlines thing. Shutdown of airspace would really save some jet fuel wouldn’t it. Kinda like a pandemic shutdown?
https://www.naturalnews.com/2025-11-05-close-airspace-government-shutdown-controllers.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPGjIS2uH7k
Wow!
Momdani won in practically every demographic, except Jewish. And even in the Jewish, he won 30% of the vote.
Who wants to bet that within six months Zohran will be considered centrist/establishment by much of the Left .
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2025/11/zohran-mamdani-wins-new-york-city-mayors-election.html#comments
Second coming of Sunak, very likely. I mean we have seen also Obama, Trump, etc. they are all the same. brown shabbos.
oooh, supported by soros. I rest my case.
I disagree with that. Michael Tracy has no clue what is going on in the world structurally. The establishment is DONE. Zohran will remain as true as he can to his principles which are genuine. Gabbard will be reaching out to publicly embrace Zohran as an ally as soon as she can because the future is unity democratic national socialism. Zohran quoted Eugene Debs at the beginning of his victory speech. Debs belie Ed in. Treasury based national(ist) public banking system. In the meantime I assume she’s congratulating Zohran privately, whether directly or indirectly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5288OyxELh8
We can only hope
North Light
Sorry, I now believe this is a fake propaganda piece.
https://forward.com/culture/781654/mamdani-eugene-debs-socialism-forverts-ab-cahan-jewish/
https://aflcio.org/about/history/labor-history-people/eugene-debs
Eugene Debs’ quotes often reflect his commitment to socialism, labor rights, and anti-war principles, emphasizing that “while there is a lower class, I am in it” and that true freedom means empowering people to act for themselves, not waiting for a leader. He famously stated he’d rather be a “free soul in jail than a sycophant or coward on the streets” and that the most heroic word is “Revolution”.
“While there is a lower class, I am in it, while there is a criminal element, I am of it, and while there is a soul in prison, I am not free”.
“I am opposing a social order in which it is possible for one man who does absolutely nothing that is useful to amass a fortune of hundreds of millions of dollars, while millions of men and women who work all the days of their lives secure barely enough for a wretched existence”.
”The Netherlands seized a company. China responded by requiring RMB settlement and making European customers negotiate directly with Chinese entities while accepting they’ll get chips only after Chinese domestic demand is satisfied.
This isn’t just retaliation. This is weaponized supply chains advancing RMB internationalization while teaching Europe exactly where they sit in the global manufacturing hierarchy. The Dutch played stupid games with geopolitical theater. Europe’s automotive industry gets to win stupid prizes. ”
An analysis of the Nexperia crisis .
https://no01.substack.com/p/play-stupid-games-win-stupid-prices?utm_source=multiple-personal-recommendations-email&utm_medium=email&triedRedirect=true
Decent article and emphasises the monetary shift, which seems to be gathering pace. Are there any reliable figures on the demise of the dollar over the last decade?
The gift to Argentina looked panicked. Here is another gold bug on that subject.
“If you must intervene, often, to remind the world that your money is money, then the world will eventually ask, why it needs the reminder.”
https://youtu.be/oyDZQYPQuiQ?si=JhVk1iHbfYmC2CrO
The Europeans are inviting trouble . Seizing another Russian asset .
https://energynews.oedigital.com/crude-oil/2025/11/05/bulgaria-drafts-a-law-to-allow-the-seizure-and-selling-of-lukoil-refinery
Eugene Debs
https://forward.com/culture/781654/mamdani-eugene-debs-socialism-forverts-ab-cahan-jewish/
https://aflcio.org/about/history/labor-history-people/eugene-debs
Eugene Debs’ quotes often reflect his commitment to
socialism, labor rights, and anti-war principles, emphasizing that “while there is a lower class, I am in it” and that true freedom means empowering people to act for themselves, not waiting for a leader. He famously stated he’d rather be a “free soul in jail than a sycophant or coward on the streets” and that the most heroic word is “Revolution”.
On Class & Inequality:
“While there is a lower class, I am in it, while there is a criminal element, I am of it, and while there is a soul in prison, I am not free”.
“I am opposing a social order in which it is possible for one man who does absolutely nothing that is useful to amass a fortune of hundreds of millions of dollars, while millions of men and women who work all the days of their lives secure barely enough for a wretched existence”.
On Freedom & Self-Empowerment:
“I would not be a Moses to lead you into the Promised Land, because if I could lead you into it, someone else could lead you out of it”.
“I would have you make up your minds there is nothing that you cannot do for yourselves”.
The majority here understand that AI is overblown . Now they are coming out in the open with a hat in hand for help . Crashed even before the party began .
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/openai-cfo-disappointed-market-doesnt-have-more-ai-exuberance-seeks-us-government-backing
They have an insane need to be gods even before the technology is ready. Give it twenty years.
I suggest the book “Susan” by Rothganger
Susan just wants a normal life—but that’s one thing a robot can never have. Her creator expects AI to solve the world’s problems, like hunger and climate change. Others want a super soldier or a sex toy. And some fear AI will destroy humanity, so they strike first.
The lab in ruins, Susan forges a human identity and lives with her best friend. He treats her like a real person, but she longs for more. Their love is the only thing that can move her to serve humanity.
Susan just wants a normal life—but that’s one thing a robot can never have. Her creator expects AI to solve the world’s problems, like hunger and climate change. Others want a super soldier or a sex toy. And some fear AI will destroy humanity, so they strike first.
The lab in ruins, Susan forges a human identity and lives with her best friend. He treats her like a real person, but she longs for more. Their love is the only thing that can move her to serve humanity.
see “Susan” by Rothganger
One reply,
“at this rate tomorrow morning we will get this headline
*OPENAI SIGNS DEAL WITH OPENAI TO BUY AND SELL $100 TRILLION WORTH OF STUFF TO AND FROM ITSELF
AI Rehypothecation?
Its a perfect reply… funny, because its true.
So now the meltdown begins . David Sack — the five companies are only round tripping . If one goes all five go .
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/openai-cfo-disappointed-market-doesnt-have-more-ai-exuberance-seeks-us-government-backing
P.S ; I am ROFL as I watch the Trump interviews and Fox news post the NY election .
The more I think about it, the more I am sure about it: the concept of the human belief in a higher power is based upon the experience of energy collapse: the.winter comes, the friends or family members die, we become weaker as we age, the progress stops, the relationships fall apart, the people around us believe in the continuing and increasing consumption, the population deteriorate genetically and with ageing.
I do not believe in any nonsense like that, so my belief in higher power is inevitable.
They come and tell me: no, we must return to less efficiency, you must try harder. But, unfortunately, it does not work.
I tell them: you are ridiculous in your naivity, they do not believe, so they are hitting the wall, falling from the cliff…
L
Another test, of bold and italics together, this time. Fingers crossed!
Another test, of bold and italics together, this time.
Success!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxSbWc2uOYg
Oil, Smoke and Mirrors.
This documentary was released on October 24, 2007. It critiques the connection between the 9/11 attacks, the “war on terror,” and the global struggle for dwindling oil reserves. It features interviews with experts such as Richard Heinberg, Colin Campbell, and Michael Meacher, who discuss the geopolitical motivations behind those events.
Watch the video from to 29:12 to 33:31, and you will hear analysts discuss the theory that thermite was used to bring the buildings down. Quite possibly that is so. My own guess is that the perpetrators used more than one method to bring the towers down, in order to sow confusion and prevent investigators from reaching a clear and straightforward conclusion about the causes. There were also the cases of the plane hijacking and the attack on the Pentagon, to muddy the waters even further.
Some of the commentary in the rest of the film, with regard to potential future social unrest and political turmoil, is quite eerily prescient. Remember that this was way back in 2007, before the economic turmoil of 2008 – which our host Gail had in fact already predicted in 2007. Was that just coincidence, or had Gail been reading the predictions of old Nostradamus? 😉
“Denis Rancourt: 2010 Death Blows to the 9/11 Nano-Thermite Hypothesis
The 9/11 Nano-Thermite Hypothesis and over 15 years of lies”?
https://911revision.substack.com/p/denis-rancourt-2010-death-blows-to?utm_source=publication-search
BREAKING: Ron DeSantis says Florida may impose a tariff on people fleeing NYC.
Why would he do that? Before they always loved people fleeing from a wealthy place like NYC.
Locking us down from the backdoor?
It’s a joke, same as Abbott made – you realize that, right?
Everything is a trial balloon
Nothing specifically new given prior interviews and articles.
Perhaps the one aspect often overlooked among the doomerite circles is
the necessary multitude of precursors for reaching the overall threshold in collapsing system. Yet, each of these individual factors could be creatively pushed aside by ~gov policy, hence the resulting delay in launching collapse sequence..
Nicely illustrated on the JAP example of no young people around anymore, hence this revolutionary potential contribution ingredient axed from the overall formula for decades.., therefore the single coherent elite/gov pillar unchallenged.
Similarly, someone from the YT commentariat -evidently non collapse audience generally- mentioned Turchin failed in categorizing the US society within the very same bracket/pool as others; while the initial “entrepreneur / immigration drive-impulse ” as in pre-selection of US society set it apart from collectivist labor movement-prone societies of Europe, Asia, .. This point will be massively boosted-preserved in DJTs hard stop attempt on incoming immigration and ongoing deportations.
Perhaps in longer interview they could have developed these point more fully. Simply, in summary the US is in great overall position for collapse by many/most theoretical metrics – but don’t count on it NOW – as some specifics are not there yet.., chiefly of dragging legacy nature.
Sorry for long musings, in conclusion and simply put as long as US can still throw-nudge others under the bus first (EU, LatAm, ..) the collapse proper is kept at bay! So, in effect the above Turchin’s case for US filling all collapse preconditions might sound correct in general sense, yet still “not enough” at the moment in reality. Most likely, it will have to wait towards further de-dollarization thresholds reached in the global economy chiefly via wider Asian coalition, say by mid 2030s..
government policy cannot push aside the energy surplus problem…no matter how we may wish otherwise….
our current lifestyle is supported by cheap surplus energy, not votes…
Maganuts remain convinced otherwise.
reality is a hard taskmaster, and will decide who is right.
The context above is clearly meant as short – mid term, tactical, .. in which realm it works swell, .. e.g. turning on/off surplus-energy spigots to other countries or the mentioned disastrous policy-foul play in altering – deepening vector of demographic trends etc.
It looks like student loans are now moving into the default stage, potentially bring down the credit ratings of many young people
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/us-household-debt-hits-record-186-trillion-student-loan-defaults-explode
https://assets.zerohedge.com/s3fs-public/inline-images/transitions%20into%2030%20days.jpg?itok=EL2nE5j1
Are people here ready to accept 2020 was a continuation of the 2008 crisis and they were lied to and robbed again? Think about it, with regards to health the advice they gave was stay home and wear a mask. Every consequential response they had to the “pandemic” was financial. Why did they stop people paying student loans when they were also paying people 50k a year on unemployment? No rent payments, no mortage payments? Why censor dissenting opinions if you weren’t lying out of your ass?
https://thephilosophicalsalon.com/a-self-fulfilling-prophecy-systemic-collapse-and-pandemic-simulation/
Gabriel Garcia Marquez wrote the famous 100 years of solitude, about the fictional Colombian town of Macondo. In which the Buendia clan lives, and dies, after 7 generations or so.
In that book it is said the first Buendia founded Macondo, but that is not true. In Latin American fantastic realist literature such liberties are taken often.
In another series the true history of Macondo is revealed, It was founded long before the Buendias arrived, and the Buendias were actually relative newcomers.
In the story , Big Mama’s Funeral, the funeral of the Matriarch who ruled Buendia, who ruled the town for so long that everyone forgot her name and just called her Mama Grande (Big Mama), is held. It takes place after the last Buendia dies, but the Buendias are not mentioned ; for Mama Grande and her clan, the Buendias were nothing. (100 Years ends with the end of Buendias and Macondo, but it is merely the end of the section where the Buendias lived.)
Mama Grande basically ruled everything, the police, the priests, the schools, the stores, you name it, of Macondo. The Buendias lived their own lives but they were actually outcasts of the town and kept out of all events there.
Mama Grande dies, but since everyone who is anybody in that town is her relative or sycophant, it is very unlikely that any changes will follow after her death ; Macondo, which took the beginning and end of the Buendias as if nothing had happened, will continue as the feudal property of Mama Grande’s relatives.
Such is the power of a local landowner. Garcia Marquez died in Mexico , but if Buendia still exists, a relative of Mama Grande would be heading the local cartel, probably loyal to some big Cartel with connection to CIA or something like that, continuing the dominance of Mama Grande’s clan.
My husband and I visited the large farm where Jimmy Carter grew up. It had a general store where the workers bought everything that they needed. It had a windmill for pumping water (now updated to using fossil fuels). There was a blacksmith. It seems like the workers lived elsewhere on the farm. The farm raised many kinds of crops besides peanuts. It included pecan trees and various kinds of row crops.
Jimmy Carter’s parents had a fireplace for heat in their bedroom. Jimmy Carter himself didn’t have heat in his bedroom.
https://jimmycarter.info/plan-your-visit/jimmy-carters-boyhood-farm/
Regarding land. The limiting input is sunlight, compute the yearly density and one has a rough idea of what income the land can generate in a year. If one wants to be more precise, compute the non renewable loss of nutrients which go into the crop.
Thus the reason early American settlers frequently moved the farm west and abandoned the land to the east.
The land does not increase in real value, only nominal value, it is the same with gold.
What makes wealth is the inventiveness of man and the self replication in the form of children. Ignore you children and poverty follows close behind. There is no economics without biology.
Dennis L.
The context of the debate here: NOT having that market kind of farm operation in the first place.
Meaning, ~no/few nutrients leaving the place on y/y basis.. preferably just to the contrary aka work-design towards natural intake and deposition. This obviously fits only overall seclusion narrative and or very temporary lift on those precondition in times of outside danger.
That’s a very different concept – obviously NOT compatible with today’s pop density, economics, politics, social framework, .. etc..
I liked this assessment of Trump . A little bit long read but good .
https://mishtalk.com/economics/politicized-stupidity-and-the-legal-threat-from-within/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOQT_4A1eb8
Mamdani gives a great speech. He has my vote when he runs for governor and then president, after the constitution update. He is a great speaker.
He cannot become President as he was born in Uganda . Maximum is Senator . Maybe he can get a birth certificate like Obama .😉
“constitution upgrade”
Trump throwing a Gatsby style party, with himself as Gatsby
https://youtu.be/0zCgdAMfFvw?si=JwZfOdtjji2QrVYB
Obviously he probably never read that book, but I am amazed none of his people reminded him how Gatsby ended up.
I had read Chris Bohjalian’s the Double Bind, about a rape victim trying to find traces of Gatsby’s life. In the end, the daughter of Tom and Daisy Buchanan, whose lifelong goal was to erase every single trace of Gatsby (whom she calls James Gatz all the time to put him to his place), successfully bribes the protagonist’s mother, who sells out her daughter for a large sum of money, and the protagonist is confirmed to a mental institution for life and every trace of Gatsby she had assembled is burnt down.
The landowners win in the end. They make the law. It is better to be a lord of a small town than a Prime Minister. Prime Ministers can get their heads chopped off. The lord of a small town, if it is not in a startegic or profitable area, can rule the town basically forever.
I titled my sig as Kulm the Status Quo. Kulm has nothing to do with my background. I saw that name somewhere and thought it was cool. The Status Quo explains itself.
In the end, feudal lords who own large pieces of land win. Trump’s legacy will be wiped out. Scott Bessent owns a large farm producing soybean.
It is extremely unlikely that the Bessent dynasty will thrive, so cheer up. nature and all that.
He will give the property to his husband who will have relatives.
These things never work very well. Your history knowledge is pretty good, so name another hom*sexual who became a feudal lord. Not inherited. Bessent in your view is the founder of a dynasty. and it is not just that, he is also an idiot.
The Qajar dynasty of Persia, just before the Pahlavis, starting 1789
The founder was captired as a child and castrated, so he became a cis woman
The founder found some relatives to inherit the realm and the dynasty continued till 1925
Does not matter who founded it, as long as there were people ready to inherit
OK, that is pretty close. but very rare. add to it that Bessent can not tell a soybean from a tractor.
I once stated here that the fake populistTrump’s downfall would be preceded by him throwing lavish parties at Maralago while people really start to suffer. People on SNAP right now don’t meet that threshold yet imo but the Hand is setting that pattern here. Obviously in a real world rather than a Consent Factory, Trump and the attendees would not be so stoopid as to have such bad timing or, at least, have allowed any cameras into the place. These are business people, and optics are the first order of business.
So how did it come to pass? From the top. Trump’s fake assassination was a rite of passage and a permanent reminder to him about the conditional state of the lives of everyone he’s ever loved. He’s the ultimate yes-man posing as top dog, and everyone else among the public business elites who’s not an intel plant like Trump, simply follows that lead because they all know that civilization is in crisis and following has become existential.
You may be right. Whoever is on top must really do the willing of the real powers that be. Overthrowing one ruler does little good.
This is a good solid prediction about the near future. I will look for it.
“The lord of a small town, if it is not in a strategic or profitable area, can rule the town basically forever.”
Great thinking in this very thread.
We touched upon related subject just few weeks ago, basically we could envy all the <45yrs and younger who are in the position to sell everything and move to such modest place, be it upper PCFNW, Alaska, or perhaps even Siberia (as the other closer and seemingly 'good enough' alternatives are too volatile multi-vector unstable bets to count on for the little people, while soybean latifundists could eventually manage to patch up a fiefdom next to unrolling chaos).
In reality though, token few can grasp that opportunity's red carpet unrolled before them.. that's the (re-)definition of a bottleneck and or even extinction path in the longer run.
The incoming yrs-decades within ~locked, predominantly overpoped areas won't be pretty deal at all.
Too late for those starting now, but in the old days, the landowning family was also the town’s police, fire dept, school, clergy, general store, etc.
Even now some regions of Scotland is completely dependent upon the Laird ; if they cross the Laird they can’t get a job anywhere in that shire.
That is the power of landowners, having life or death power over everyone in that region
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Another thorn in the flesh of DJT . When does he call out the National guards ?
Mamdani seals remarkable victory – but real challenges await
2 hours ago
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cly4kr8gzr2o
The tale of two cities
London Mayor —- Sadiq Khan
New York — Zohran Mamdani .
Once we go under martial law the mayor and president will be canceled.
So this is all pointless anyways.
How is London working out?
better than having rapturemongers in charge
Agree. Between satan*st pedo*hiles and rapturemongers, it’s a close contest but the pedos come on top.
Disagree. The rapture can’t come soon enough in my opinion.
Still a global core , and very peaceful considering the size. For a city with about 9m , daytime population maybe 12m its yearly murder rate looks comparable to a couple of busy weekends in south Chicago.
The mayor of London has a budget for both transport and transport police. That’s it really. So not so important. The city of London Lord mayor is symbolic and likely wields more influence due to the sheer amount of finance moving through the square mile (see ‘the second British empire’), which pays for everything UK and nobody here understands that at all. Thinks its house price value or some other magic like arts n culture / premier league etc).
Like most large cities London eats humans .. they don’t breed here. Too costly. So it needs constant immigration. Being an island there has been hyper selection. To arrive from say, Brazil on Portuguese passport you have to be middle class at least. Looks like a paradise for scammers first arrival until the HMRC scams you back .. they’re cleverer. Rent levels mean you can’t stick around too many generations without means. peelian principle s mean police officers are most polite on the planet, policing by consent works. Public sectors and health pretty .. healthy .. all in all buoyant. UK comprises London , a few islands (Like , Edinburgh, Oxford etc. Shrewsbury – ‘the death of ambition’ they call it , end of the line ), and the rest is hunger games people.
neat summary of UK Ewart
most people dont get it.
Shrewsbury is my county town, generally a delightful place to be.
London these days is characterized by mostly peaceful exasperation and frustration, just about coping, avoidance of eye-contact, keeping oneself to oneself, the occasional stabbing and a general atmosphere fear and loathing……
A clip of a TalkTV caller from London has gone viral after she expressed her extreme distress over rising violence in her area, particularly stabbings, in the wake of yet another horrific incident Tuesday.
As we earlier highlighted, an innocent man walking his dog in West London was brutally stabbed to death for no reason whatsoever by an illegal Afghan migrant, with two others being seriously injured by the knife wielding maniac.
She noted that since moving into her house in 2019, her local shop has experienced three stabbings and one murder.
“My friend was murdered last year up on The High Street. A girl that I know was murdered in South Ball Park. Government are failing us. We’re scared for our children,” the caller urged.
“I have a 22-year old son and I’m begging him to move out of this country,” she continued, adding “What are these politicians doing to us? They’re putting our children in so much danger. They put everyone in danger and they’re doing nothing to help us.”
She then expressed deep frustration that despite being peaceful people, the community feels pushed to take action because their concerns are not being addressed.
“They’re pushing us to do something that we don’t want. We are peaceful people. British people never revolt against their government. They’re going to push us to it because they are not listening to us. Please, our friends, our family are dying,” the woman pleaded.
“I don’t leave the house without a man,” she further revealed, urging “everyone I know is getting stabbed. They’re getting raped in parks. This is where I live, not where the politicians live.”
She then directly addressed British Prime Minister Keir Starmer, stating “if you’re listening to this, please do something. I’m petrified. I’ve never broken the law in my life. I have been a law abiding citizen, a civil servant. Please do something. It’s us that are dying on the streets.”
At time of writing, Starmer has not said anything about yesterday’s stabbing spree.
“You talk about being racist,” the tearful caller further stated, referring to Starmer’s repeated characterisation of those concerned about rampant illegal immigration as “far right.”
https://modernity.news/2025/10/29/watch-petrified-woman-details-brutal-reality-of-lawless-borderless-britain/
[ “They’re pushing us to do something that we don’t want. We are peaceful people. British people never revolt against their government. They’re going to push us to it because they are not listening to us. Please, our friends, our family are dying,” the woman pleaded.
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She then directly addressed British Prime Minister Keir Starmer, stating “if you’re listening to this, please do something. I’m petrified. I’ve never broken the law in my life. I have been a law abiding citizen, a civil servant. Please do something.. ” ]
The very condensed essence of collapse avoidance-delay through trained-hereditary obedience in practice, in fact extraordinaire collector’s item. Great supplement material to above Turchin discussion.. Thanks
Cmon guys , discretion, this one’s nuts…
‘everyone I know is getting stabbed. They’re getting raped in parks. This is where I live, not where the politicians live’. … she clearly very unlucky in her choice of friends , . Maybe when the bennies run out sure. Or when this one runs out of cash and starts clucking/withdrawing.
You know the saying …. if you’re walking down the street and you see a tosser, likely they’re a tosser. If you walk down the street and everyone looks like a tosser … it’s likely you’re the tosser.
Everyone’s getting. Stabbed . Right yeah
thats nothing ewart
at the height of the covid pnademic, i was told here on OFW, with absolute certainty, that millions of dead people were lying in the streets here….. and it was a plot by the chinese to kill us all off. (either that or Bill Gates was—i forget which).
but Gates was certainly putting iron filings in injections so he could track us all via his 5g masts.
can never have too much of a good conspiracy. (you couldnt make it up, as they say—except that people do just that.)
A Muslim socialist?
An oxymoron like “renewable energy” or “rare earth minerals”.
People are so dumb..
Maybe Ed can finally marry his sister now.
By the way, I am on my way to Boston today. In fact, I am at the airport. I will return Saturday. Delta has wi-fi on its planes. Hopefully, I can still respond to comments from time to time. I will be visiting my daughter and family.
So sad. I got used to either a chew or a shabbo. what is the world coming to?
While the country is fighting over caste and religion , a disaster unfolds in India ,
https://medium.com/illumination/the-looming-crash-why-india-should-pay-attention-62e73da94bf3
I am afraid that this article is correct. Without being able to handle outsourced programming for rich countries, India will lose 7.5% of GDP-probably more because of the multiplier effect.
India has been taking low level US programming jobs away. Probably other things too, like call centers. These jobs are moving to AI.
Hm, rather refreshing conclusion vs msm :
https://grokipedia.com/page/November_1963
“Persistent public disbelief in the official account has sustained high levels of conspiracy attribution, with Gallup tracking showing belief in multiple perpetrators rising to 81% by 1966 before stabilizing around 60-65% in recent decades; in 2013, 61% endorsed a conspiracy, and by 2023, 65% did so, including subsets implicating government elements.[105][104] This enduring doubt, documented across polls from Gallup and others, stems from perceived inconsistencies in forensic evidence, witness accounts, and the Commission’s reliance on select data, fostering a meta-suspicion that official probes prioritize narrative control over transparency—a pattern echoed in later distrust of events like 9/11 or COVID-19 origins.[106][107]”
The official version of the assassination of JFK in 1963 was disbelieved long ago. This is only one of many official narratives that have been questioned.
Wow! Wow! Wow! Charlie Kirk. Man, this was fighting talk:
“I’m going to continue to ask the questions. A 20-hour response in a country the size of New Jersey [referring to how long it took the Israeli Government to respond to the Hamas attack of October 7]. That begs a big explanation. More importantly, the American government is significantly underwriting the Israeli government—four billion dollars. We, the American taxpayers deserve answers to this. We deserve answers also, if we’re going to get into a regional or world war, based on an intel failure, so, if we pay for this what are we buying? I got smeared as a Jew hater, an antisemite and a conspiracy theorist because I said exactly what I just said. I refuse to back down despite all the smears thrown at me. Because I learned during COVID. I learned when they told us that it came from a bat in the Himalayas. I learned when they told us the vaccine was safe and effective. I learned when they told us that Ivermectin was horse paste, that you better keep asking questions, because it’s the only thing that keeps us free.”
Jimmy Dore: “Why would the Deep State consider him a threat; just because he threatened every itemized thing that they’re intending to do?” /sarc
Nov 5, 2025 The Jimmy Dore Show PODCAST
A viral video has been making the rounds featuring Charlie Kirk questioning Israel’s delayed response to the October 7th Hamas attacks, suggesting it raises serious questions about government accountability and U.S. funding to Israel.
Jimmy explores claims that the TPUSA founder faced backlash for his comments, including accusations of antisemitism, while emphasizing the importance of continuing to question official narratives.
The segment critiques both government and media institutions for suppressing inquiry and punishing dissent, using examples from the COVID era to underscore a pattern of censorship and manipulation. Jimmy closes by urging viewers to “keep asking questions” as a core principle of freedom and skepticism toward authority.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQQhQOJp8bQ
I still don’t rule out Charlie faking his own assassination, or that the above clip may be AI generated, but if it’s legit, it absolutely screams MOTIVE.
I wouldn’t say Charlie faked his own assassination. I would say that his assassination was faked, because wasn’t in on the decision making process. And I would reiterate that whenever you are framing someone (Mossad in this case) for something, you are manufacturing motive.
I tend to think, at times like this, “How would Poirot investigate this?” Although that isn’t an option this time because Kash Patel isn’t going to invite the world famous detective in to solve the case.
One thing about Poirot is that he always manages to put together a motive for everyone in the room to have done it, before finally naming the real perpetrator.
So, are you saying that Charlie might have been set up for a fake assassination by his controllers and was ordered to go along with it? And he cooperated?
The advantage in that would mean that no actual murder was committed, so everyone’s conscience would feel that much better. But the logistics of the thing would be more complex than doing an actual murder.
On the other hand, by some accounts the Military Industrial Political Entertainment Complex has been doing fake murders and fake deaths since forever. And the more tragic, dramatic, and shocking the spectacle, the greater the drama effect.
I have to keep reminding myself that most of the people promoted by the MSM are actors who are insiders, so they trust each other and can pull this sort of thing off before breakfast.
Yeah like we talked about a few weeks ago I figure Kirk and Erika are both intel operatives working on career-length deep cover assignments for the good of the nation. Their assignments are their lives. Welcome to the 21st century.
Did you hear that Kash is mad at Tulsi because Tulsi got her man Joe Kent to get ahold of the FBI’s Kirk files for examination, which was unauthorized, to see what the FBI had on foreign involvement in the Kirk killing, and now there’s a House bill that is trying to take counterterrorism responsibilities away from the FBI and give them to Tulsi’s office. Hand be teasing.
Nature does not give a crap about someone’s interest. There are people who stand to make a huge killing from rocking the system, so there will always be the danger.
Betting against the trend? Simply farcial. There are no shortage of bears out there.
No problem has been solved. It is just kicked out down the road until it can’t be.
There is no trend, only artificially induced bubbles to fish out gullible people who will believe whatever stories, real or not, which make them feel good.
I am amazed by the leap of logical thought from open sources to the tired, old tales of space mining, but since overnight delivery is not available from the asteroids, I won’t worry too much about this possibility.
I received this via email—it’s impressive how far things have come. I built a simpler version about a year ago. Ten years ago, even a top EE graduate would’ve struggled with this. Now it’s online, affordable, and accessible: 🔗 Parallax Robotics
Part of the meeting focused on vision systems for bots. My last project could follow tape on the floor, detect obstacles, spin in place (“do donuts”), and reroute itself. The online education available today is phenomenal. What’s missing is the irreplaceable interaction with classmates. Still, the open-source collaboration in the sciences is remarkable.
Looking ahead, space mining will likely deploy millions of these bots—no wheels, just small thrusters. In space, there’s no oil needed beyond lubrication, no ambient oxygen… but plenty of photons.
—Dennis L
Did you intend to add a link?
If so, put the link in a separate line by itself.
Liquids don’t really exist in space. Everything is either a solid, or quickly gasses off. This is one of the challenges in space robotics. The way around that is to have a contained atmosphere in which the robot operates completely. In the past, shutter and film cameras were able to operate in this way.
Oil based lubricants will boil off quickly, but other lubrication technologies exist that will provide one time or short time viability in small applications.
This is a huge problem to overcome, and it applies to every aspect of rocketry in space. Fuel tanks will gas off quickly, atmospheric enclosures will become hot quickly leading to system failure, unless there are solar shields involved. But everything comes at a cost…. especially if dexterity is required.
Personally, I still believe this is where we should concentrate, and not on manned space flight which essentially gets us nowhere. Robotic space missions will, for the foreseeable future, be mostly observational except for on larger planets with an atmosphere at least 1% of Earth’s.
Manipulative robotic arms above the Earth’s atmosphere and into deep space are very far away from anything useful, and orders of magnitudes away from something useful in mining. However, everything necessary is reasonably in the realm of known physics. But, not much is yet in realm of proven technology.
All of this said, wouldn’t it be fantastic to have nuclear powered rockets with robots that can somehow spin and smelt materials from an asteroid in a magnetic vortex, and then kick back valuable contained chemicals to Earth?
The people advocating space solar whom I have talked to have imaged robots doing construction in space, not hoards of workers.
Robots are quite dragile and a constant supply of them is needed. How the supply would be maintained is something they never bothervto explore.
Exactly this. I can be achieved in low orbit where there is still enough atmosphere to prevent cold welding and boil off so that today’s mechanical technologies are still applicable.
From there, robotic systems can be sent out of orbit. That said, this would be a drop in the bucket of what would be necessary for deep space mining.
Solar can be collected to do some work, but when it comes to moving and processing the masses that would make any difference to humanity…. we will need something a million times, and probably far far more… of what technology is capable of delivering today.
But, I think we should try anyway.
Laws of thermodynamics are joke to such prople and i do not feel a smart discussion with them worthehile since they believe their own delusions.
I suggest that both you and Norm both read Judy Wood’s “Where Did the Towers Go?”
It would appear that Judy Wood has used her undoubted scientific background in the field, to propose theories/solutions which are outside her scope of knowledge (or anybody else’s for that matter).
Namely.:-
She asserts that a ”free energy beam” was used to bring the buildings down, where from of course, she doesnt say. It hasnt used before or since.
Why a free energy beam?—or directed energy weapon.
Because Wood cannot explain the tower debris (as she sees it) in a way that fits her hypothesis, unless she brings in a completely fictitious ”energy beam” to fill in the blank spaces so to speak.
the energy beam does not exist.—not on a scale to demolish buildings. Wood has a masters degree—so she must be right. Not so. Watch the video link below.
this debunks Wood:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Documentaries/comments/1niiwcb/where_the_towers_went_2025_an_evaluation_of_dr/
(Who also includes the forces used to make crop circles!!!)
scientific background doesnt preclude opinions which are revealed as nonsense.
Will the real “Norman Pagett” please stand up? The real one previously believed that the Towers collapsed because two planes crashed into them.
Now “he” claims to believe that they were brought down by explosions. But the 9/11 commission of that very nice and totally truthful Bush-Junior government disagrees:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Center_controlled_demolition_conspiracy_theories
So perhaps Mr. P. should be renditioned to the USA and charged under their Patriot Act.
Interesting video, tho, Mr. P. There are still plenty of contentious points about 9/11. No doubt the perpetrators, whoever they were, intended to bamboozle us by carefully planning several elements whose causes could not easily be established.
Incidentally, according to Google:
The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) final report concluded that the collapse was due to structural damage from fires that weakened critical columns, leading to a progressive collapse.
So there you have it. Mysteries abound. And now NP has been mysteriously replaced by a perfect replica with very different opinions, even though we know that the real NP never changes his opinions. What has happened to the real NP ? Time for me to re-watch The Invasion of the Body-snatchers. 🙁
Experienced pilots said that the “planes” seen during 9/11 could not have flown at that speed. Nor could they have flown with that trajectory.
The second “plane” seemed to go smoothly through the wall of the Tower. It met no resistance but should have bounced off or been smashed.
Hollow aluminium wings cannot penetrate 10 inch steel girders. Also the building was constructed to withstand collisions with planes. Yet the seemingly impossible diappear to happen.
Dr. Judy Wood laughed out loud when she saw it on TV. Her knowledge of physics told her that it was indeed impossible. Some analysts brainstormed the problem of plane-shaped holes back in 2020. They believe that they solved the problem.
The plane was actually a missile cloaked within a plane-shaped hologram.
So what about the plane-shaped hole That was made separately – somebody fired a DEW at the building. A DEW is a directed energy weapon.
Eventually the building collapsed. But that was as a result of the explosion way beneath. The impact of the “plane” / missile did not cause it. And collapsing buildings do not fall neatly within their own footprint.
As for the “plane”, its left wing seemed to disappear just before the impact. As the video below explains, the holography used was not perfect.
https://odysee.com/@911PlanesHoax:c/9-11-3D-Projection–A-Missile-Cloaked-in-a-Hologram:b
9/11 Planes – Volumetric Holographic Deception.
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Heinz Pommer is a German-Swiss nuclear physicist. He has investigated 9/11. Watch his video from 16:43 to 18:06. Watch particularly from the 17:27 point to 18:06.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry4UWQjJnSc
9/11: a nuclear war crime
Horrific stuff. Spectacular to watch. But this was mass murder.
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See Heinz Pommer’s website:
http://www.911history.de/aaannxyz_ch01_en.html
The oligarchs’ nuclear war games.
Demiurge … Bang on!
You hit the two physics issues in the first few sentences that everyone should be able to recite like their countries anthem by now.
As for what dropped the two buildings, we can only speculate until people wake T F up, and demand to know just why everything changed six weeks after this event…. as if it were planned years in advance.
China seemed to do very well immediately following this disaster. Funny that.
JavaKinetic wrote:
“Demiurge … Bang on! You hit the two physics issues in the first few sentences that everyone should be able to recite like their countries anthem by now.”
Thanks. Though those were not MY own insights – I learned them from others, including Dr. Judy Wood, and they opened my eyes to the official lies around 9/11. So I am grateful to them.
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https://youtu.be/TY2DKzastu8
Wes Clark – America’s Foreign Policy “Coup”
General Wesley Clark and the neo-cons (the war mongers).
After 9/11, General Clark learned that the US government had decided to “take down 7 countries in 5 years”. Iraq and Afghanistan were first on the list.
Some analysts reckon that the terrorist events of 9/11 must have been planned 2 years in advance.
But still the US government gave the rather inept, though at times dangerous, Osama bin Laden the blame for these hi-tech atrocities. As if! But he was a convenient patsy.
Well done, Demiurge!
Hey, Norman, we really do have a problem here.
Here, you’ve used a video that claims the WTC towers were brought down by explosive demolition in order to debunk the theory of Judy Wood that they were destroyed using some exotic energy beam or weapon.
For decades, up until today, you have been on record as claiming the controlled demolition account was a wacko conspiracy theory perpetrated by conspiranuts and conspiracy loons.
Now you have made a U-turn and endorsed the controlled demolition theory.
That’s fine. It is written in the Bible that the last shall be first and there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety- nine just persons who need no repentance.
But you have some ‘spainin’ to do if you want to safeguard your position and legacy as OFW’s Curmudgeon in Chief.
I too looked at Norman’s video.
I’m truly shocked that Norman couldn’t find a better hit piece.It really is very poorly made, but I suppose it helps distract from the science in the book, which is about the collapse and disappearance of over 90% of the materials that made up those buildings.
You always know their arguments are weak, when they go after the theorising about cause, but ignore the subject and science of the book, which as the title suggests is more concerned with where the hell all the rubble went. Ask Norman to explain that and you will probably meet a wall of silence. He even misrepresents her academic achievements and you only need look at the cover of the book to know that.
It’s the same when you ask about freefall and resistance(I’ve tried multiple times), they never answer, despite always banging on that you can’t deny the laws of physics. Unless you’re officialdom of course, then they’ll parrot anything you say. Imagine demonising anyone that pointed out the obvious freefall, because NIST said no freefall and NIST are officialdom. Then complete and utter silence, when years and multiple reports later NIST done a complete 180° and admitted that yes there was indeed 2.2 seconds of freefall during the initial stages of collapse(WTC7). They still haven’t explained how those 79 columns made for the sole purpose of resisting freefall just seemed to all evaporate at the same instant(only way a building will go straight down). Maybe they could at last reveal their modelling, assuming that they have nothing to hide(more discrepancies concerning the laws of physics?).
when a ”scientist” resorts to ”death rays” to back up the science, when the science itself doesn’t fit, i’m outta the argument.
i admit there are numerous other sources of possibly better counter-information i could have used–just too tiresome to gp through it all.
the prime counter argument in all the nonsense is that most of it didnt kick off until around 2015 or so.—been saying that for years now…
what happened in 2015?
the fast eddys of this world got hold of mass media.
conspironuts found they had friends everywhere..
every nutty idea became everybody else’s nutty idea..
flat earth society writ large..
“when a ”scientist” resorts to ”death rays” to back up the science, when the science itself doesn’t fit”
The books science of the collapse is correct.
The official account is fantasy that defies physics(remember the freefall flip flopping*), which is why you fixate on potential cause, rather than the observable events.
When officialdom is clearly lying, people are forced to hypothesise about cause and only those happy to ignore science at the demand of officialdom, struggle to understand why.
As Dr Wood said
“To determine what happened on 9/11, not just some, but all available evidence must be considered. We cannot pick and choose which observable facts we may want to explain and then ignore the others”
You might have noticed her title is Dr. Keep that in mind next time you attempt to smear her education.
Tell me about freefall and resistance. While you’re at it, explain how a single joint(2001A) in a single column(out of 79) can instigate freefall collapse of the entire building and to do so almost instantaneously.
*Please explain why you are happy with NIST contradicting themselves and explain why that ok?
the prefix of “dr” indicates scientific training.
it does not exclude fantasy and delusion at any level.
i’m not smearing wood—just repeating her own comments. if she makes unproven ”facts” about force beams, i am entitled to repeat them as bs.—doc or no doc.
Wood offers the conclusion that some kind of ‘force” must have been ”beamed” at the building—which was and is ”secret” of course— in order to bring them down.
BS
no such device exists…whether or not ”doctor” wood says it does or not.—remember her backround is not the extreme end of physics.
cant recall whether it was her or not—i think it might have been—but i think she said the planes were holograms.
Remember Keith Henson—he went over the wall from OFW a while ago, and was never recaptured, he’s still on the run somewhere…..an undoubted genius, i really liked him—fixated on space elevators…space mining etc, which he had proven to be mathematically feasible—yet they were still BS–the industrial infrastructure did not and never would exist, for a variety of reasons….not just mechanical.
this sums up all the bs very neatly—much better than i can.
https://www.joe.ie/news/september-11-conspiracies-730792
Still fixating Norman.
Explain why anyone should accept the account of NIST when they can’t even get freefall correct?
Maybe ask yourself why you never questioned an obvious lie and still don’t, even after they admitted(eventually) that they lied.
Just because things are unknown to us, doesn’t discount possible existence. Before 1974(90s really), if I had told you that Post Office engineer Tommy Flowers had built a programmable computer in 1943(Max Newman designed), you would have laughed and said impossible(whilst slinging derogatory titles in my general direction), as officialdom said otherwise and so today, Tommy Flowers remains unknown.
So, on one side we have a good scientific account of collapse, with theorising on unknown cause(as official cause makes no sense, unless we discount the laws of physics).
On the other side we have proven liars, that attempted for years to bury their lie under layers of BS, only to be forced to admit the lie.
They still refuse to show their modelling and it must be horrendously bad, if after decades, it’s still impossible to clean it up enough to make it presentable for scrutiny(you have to wonder what lies they are still hiding, given known form).
You don’t need to believe either, but one has lost all right to respect, by their own actions and the other is Dr Judy Wood.
fitz
force beams
rant all you want—–
they dont exist
How exactly have I been ranting?
All I’ve done is ask you to look at the science(you repeatedly refuse), pointed out some problems with the narrative and given you an example of something that happened years before anyone thought it possible.
I have no interest in the theories of cause, only the science of collapse and Dr Wood provides the most thorough evidence that the official gravity defying narrative is complete and utter BS.
Freefall and the effects of resistance do exist.
Why do you ignore what they show, whilst fixating on something you are sure doesn’t exist?
That’s an odd way of reasoning.
there is no science
planes were flown into the towers, towers collapsed…
even discussion of it lends credibility to theconspironuts…–just like arguing about whether the earth is flat or not.
which makes me the idiot for doing it.
“there is no science”
Obviously not, when you refuse to look.
Anyone claiming that two planes turned three skyscrapers to dust needs to believe that “there is no science” because science turns their ignorance to dust.
“A Breakdown of Jonathan Cole PE’s 9/11 DEW Disinformation”?
https://911revision.substack.com/p/a-breakdown-of-jonathan-cole-pes?utm_source=publication-search
The local seismographs revealed no evidence of a nuclear detonation.
thats not even worth an eyeroll reante
Sorry, Norman. That reply was more of a deflection than anything else.
Are you endorsing controlled demolition and acknowledging that “gravity” collapses were observed for all three WTC buildings (1, 2 and 7)…?
Or do remain a denier?
Or are you saying you don’t know or care enough about the issue to have bothered to look into it and so you are deferring to the BBC, who on their live 9/11 special coverage reported that Building 7 had collapsed while it was still standing in the background?
And while we are at it, why did the BBC and many of the world’s other major TV broadcasters, cancel all their scheduled programming on 9/11 and instead broadcast the special programs showing the same few “livestreams” provided by US media?
I had a TV set in those days, and here in Japan the same live feed was broadcast on NHK and all the private channels, with Japanese commentary, so that everyone would see the spectacle of planes flying into towers and towers collapsing and people panicking and screaming “Oh my God!” with their own eyes?
They’ve never done anything like that on a global scale before—not for other terror events, not even for the Olympics or the World Cup, and certainly not for the destruction in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Ukraine, Lebanon or Gaza.
This a huge “why” and huge “tell”. 9/11 was a theatrical production on a truly global scale. It was a propaganda spectacular that would have delighted Josef Goebbels, the man who almost single-handedly developed the field of propaganda into an art form. The only other such production conducted on a similarly grand scale was COVID-19.
I never knew that the entirety of the corporate world was forced to go through the constant narrative loop. That’s quite telling and wasn’t used again for 19 years.
On Goebbels, when he talked about the big lie, he wasn’t talking about Germany, he was talking about England and how they loved using the biggest lies that they could come up with and then always doubled down when challenged(sound familiar?). We cunningly spun that around.
“The most important English secret of leadership is now to be found not so much in a particularly outstanding intelligence, but rather in a remarkably stupid thick-headedness. The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous”.
He wasn’t wrong.
Don’t know why you would make that reply Norm given that you and me are in agreement that the towers were not brought down by mini nukes.
9/11 coverage ain’t gone have nuthin on the Big Nuclear Scare! 🫣
Sorry for my misunderstanding you there, Norm. While sweeping the school cafeteria floor this evening I realized that you must be referring to the nuke idea itself not being worth an eye roll.
thats about it reante, like woods death rays.
gotta draw the line somewhere
You’ve probably noticed Norm that when we get tired we always draw the line sooner than we otherwise would have. Instead of swimming laps we set up on the lilo in the middle of the pool, in speedos, such that the ladies of the world must revolve around you, which they’re only too happy to do.
Wood’s most excellent noting of the local seismographic data blows a massive hole in both the mini nuke and official narrative. I held off on adding that to my apology to you but since you replied by raising the stakes, ol reante was forced to up the ante (reante) himself.
Wood notes that the seismometer readings as the towers each collapsed were way lower than the readings during the controlled demolition of the Seattle Kingdome (an American football stadium) even though the amount of material per square foot of the footprints of the building was far greater with the towers. Hence the book title: Where Did The Towers Go?
Chew on that gristle if you can.
And of course, a mini nuke in the basement, as mentioned above, would register on the seismometers and also wouldn’t dustify the building. Only a nuke with an equivalent of 100,000 tons or whatever of TNT could dustify the tower but then again it would also dustify on the horizontal plane the equivalent of the height of the buildings. The idea that the nuke funneled up the elevator shaft (if I’m not mistaken that that claim was made, but I did see a graphic in my brief viewing of the video suggested as much) is retarded. A nuke explosion doesn’t seek a path of least resistance and an elevator shaft doesn’t resist a nuke.
Thanks Fitz I never knew that Goebbels was talking about the Brits. That makes so much more sense. Appreciate you coming over to the dark side on that one. 😉
When you control the narrative, anything is possible and the bigger and bolder, the harder it is for people to change course, no matter the evidence.
He didn’t mention British, only English and he was talking about the corporation and their enforcers, both physical and mental(ss and media mostly). I wonder if he ever realised that he was part of a big lie and who set that lie up(he just didn’t think big enough).
Wernher von Braun was also quite clear about the big lies people willingly believe(800,000 tons of fuel or a large dose of hollywood bs), but as we see with the power of big lies, people are too embarrassed to ever admit that they fell for them.
“We also know they have gotten away with a number of really massive whoppers over the years, and if the covid event or the Russia-Ukraine fairytale don’t bring that point home with enough force — there’s not a single thinking human being that in their heart of hearts believes that Building 7 just happened to slip in the shower that September morning.”
The lies get bigger and more desperate, but people shut out the glaring contradictions.
“The idea that contemporary AI will push the generation of renewables forward is obviously a pretty tastless joke considering the actual energy and resource footprint of this tech, but I do believe the part about “improving digital companions” is a quite genuine expression of their intention is to bolster the marketing and rollout of agential AI”
https://shadowrunners.substack.com/p/the-ai-bubble-is-not-what-it-seems
Digital companion. That’s a lovely way of describing the thing that will lead us down a path we almost certainly don’t want to travel(even though it’s been openly advertised and implemented since 2020). We all have a digital twin already, although most are either unaware, or blissfully ignorant of its true purpose.
https://iaindavis.substack.com/p/uk-digital-id-the-britcard-bait-and?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2
Can’t be long now until the next “event” as the narrative is very fragile and another big shove down that path is needed soon.
Relative only to American energy policy, President Donald Trump has taken a big giant shit right on the top of the domestic oil and gas industry’s head in our country. He has driven the price oil down 20% since January of 2025, to levels that are causing great harm. Thousands of good men and women are being laid off, wells are being orphaned, and the tight oil sector is borrowing more and more money just to stay afloat, to live another day. Money that will NOT be paid back.
Drill baby, drill was an abstract failure. He called in some chips with the KSA and lowered the price of oil here in America with increased production from OPEC. He’s got his eyes on Venezuelan oil, Argentinian gas, and is demanding the UK open back the British North Sea Sector. ANWR is now open for business, if there is any.
The only bone POTUS can throw the oil and gas business in his own country is one of lowering regulatory costs, something that oil operators in the recent Dallas Federal Reserve survey helps lower break even $2-3 per incremental BO.
In the meantime, Exxon, Chevron, Diamondback and EOG, the so-called pillars of America’s hydrocarbon future, are burning through the last of their Tier 1 and 2 drilling locations in the Permian…all for exports to foreign countries. The U.S. set an all-time world record for LNG exports last week.
The real oilman — Mike Shellman
But perhaps the lower oil prices are helping the world economy, at least for a little while.
China has the capacity to derail the current economic order . We have talked about rare earths but now we must add gold and silver . I have mentioned silver in my earlier posts . The value of physical silver now available at LBMA is only $ 36 billion . Silver is needed for solar panels and most important use is for water desalination .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGju7kpyPM0
Silver compounds are not used for primary desalination, but rather in silver nanoparticles (AgNPs), which are incorporated into membranes or filters to enhance the purification process and kill microbes. These nanocomposites are used to prevent biofouling and improve disinfection, with materials like silver-phosphate nanoparticles and silver/silver-chloride electrodes being explored for their potential in desalination and water treatment.
There are more than one ways to skin a cat ;
Why will China – US truce will unravel ?
https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/china-warns-trump-avoid-crossing-four-red-lines-or-risk-trade-truce-collapse
China has added silver to its list of critically controlled exports, which will require special licenses for outbound shipments. This move, along with simultaneous VAT reforms on platinum, signals a stricter government approach to managing strategic resources. The market reacted with initial apprehension, with gold and silver prices dropping, though silver later rebounded.
Details of the policy change
Critical metals list: Silver has been added to a list of tightly controlled exports, placing it alongside other materials like rare earth minerals.
Export controls: This change means a deliberate government strategy to manage outbound trade of key resources more rigorously.
VAT reforms: The change was accompanied by the removal of a VAT exemption for platinum transactions, imposing a uniform 13% VAT on platinum imports. This suggests a broader policy recalibration in China’s precious metals sector.
Market reaction: The initial reaction on November 3, 2025, was apprehension, with gold prices dipping and Chinese jewelry company stocks falling significantly. Silver also saw an initial decline but later rebounded.
Broader context and implications
Geopolitical strategy: Analysts note that China’s actions with critical materials, including this move on silver, are part of a deliberate, long-term strategy to gain strategic advantages and influence global markets, drawing parallels to its rare earth mineral strategy.
Economic security: The classification of silver as a critical material acknowledges its industrial importance for technologies like solar cells and defence systems, and China’s tightening controls can be seen as a way to secure supply for its own industrial base.
Silver is now added to Tungsten , Antimony .
Thanks.
But this [ Silver ] re-classification step is more or less as declared for tightening control for industrial base purposes within China.. should they at some point massively boost up PVs or purifying water and or similar applications for it..
It’s doubtful they would have any other ideas, as there are heaps of co-silver mining opportunities out there globally, basically an overhang and no interested parties in such an effort. Could be at some point the ~3rd world decides it’s the future again, but I doubt it..
Perhaps only in ~very distant future under the scenario of newly restructured local govs needing large amounts of distributed coinage for basic trade again aka as in decades after ~collapse-simplification wave has taken place.. but yet again at that point the extract.industry would lack the techmeans to do it easily anyway..
Those are the ideological red lines. But there will be practical red lines. China will presumably try to buy a few ASML machines. The USA will try to buy all the rare earths. At some point someone will obstruct the other. acrimonious accusations will follow.
The four red lines that Trump isn’t to cross are not given in the Zerohedge article summarizing the Bloomberg article. The Bloomberg article states:
Ambassador to the US Xie Feng named Taiwan, democracy and human rights, China’s political system, and development rights as Beijing’s four red lines, adding that “the most important thing is to respect each other’s core interests and major concerns.”
The video you link to is with respect to gold. China is the major miner. People want to move away from the US$.
Silver is really needed within the industrial system. This could, in some ways, become a bigger problem.
I started the thread here in the last post .https://ourfiniteworld.com/2025/10/06/what-has-gone-wrong-with-the-economy-can-it-be-fixed/comment-page-5/#comment-494176
Perhaps we are reaching a point where it is in no one’s interest to derail current economic order.
Scarcity has been predicted for decades, somehow the problem has always been solved. Betting against the trend is generally not a good bet.
Dennis L.
China’s 4th Plenum: set the stage for China’s 15th Five-Year Plan (2026-2030), which will address the Chinese currency, the yuan (CNY).
– Yuan internationalization. The plan aims to promote the internationalization of the yuan in a period of growing doubts about the US dollar
– Redoubling efforts on production vs mere growth of financial economy
– (~Domestic) supply chain strengthening (reaction to Nexperia case) to face future technological embargoes
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South CHN Morning Post:
https://www.scmp.com/topics/chinas-fourth-plenum
Nothing to add . However no talk of energy . Enjoy .
What is the saddest quote in Of Mice and Men?
Week [285] Kurt Vonnegut (Satyric writer) Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are ‘It might have been’.
https://indi.ca/the-100-year-plan-behind-chinas-5-year-plan/
Yes, while in the near term for energy they probably count on some continued quasi plateau (for them) as other global demand areas, chiefly European consumers were thrown under the proverbial BUS.
Earlier, we heard rumors that President Xi might be replaced at the time of the meeting in October. This apparently didn’t happen.
This video from the Eurodollar University is entertaining besides being worrying. Jeff Snider must have used AI to do his animation. He explains why bad collateral on loans could be leading to much bigger problems this time around.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCOlOVO7ePI
This Is What “Always” Happens Before Every Financial Crisis
With the entire world in debt, who holds the actual notes? Who has supplied collateral to support those notes?
Had Copilot look at current financial assets ex debt vs debt.
If debt grows at 3% annually, financial assets must grow at 4.3% per year for 5 years to catch up. More debt than financial assets.
If debt grows faster (e.g. 5%), the required asset growth rate rises significantly.
🔮 Timing Signals for a Liquidity Crisis
Mid to Late 2025: Neuberger Berman and other strategists forecast a slowdown in global liquidity and economic growth in the second half of 2025, following a surge in early-year stimulus and asset rallies.
October 2025 Flashpoint: The U.S. Federal Reserve halted its Quantitative Tightening (QT) program and cut rates in October 2025, citing liquidity concerns in money markets and rising stress in the banking system.
Debt Maturity Wall: Michael Howell, a leading liquidity analyst, warns of a looming debt maturity wall that could trigger a liquidity crunch if refinancing becomes difficult amid tighter monetary conditions.
My prediction, “Boom!” Now if one has assets how does one minimize the loss in that those assets will purchase going forward?
Perhaps the Amish come out ahead as all debt wipes out all financial assets. Amish still have Sunday off and sort of live like the homeless with a roof and heat. Toilet is an outhouse, no heat until a fire is built. Amish don’t do debt outside of tribe from what I understand. Small communities, those who don’t pay are shunned, if only very small numbers, the group goes on.
Dennis L.
FED just did it again! Another $24 Billion injection into the U.S. Banking system 🤯 Make that $125 Billion over the last 5 days 🤑 .
https://x.com/Barchart/status/1985493888463704229/photo/1
Go back and check my post by HHH at POB who had constantly pointed out the lack of collateral . The problems at the financial markets will come before the lines at the pump . Readers at OFW hopefully should know this .
Go back and check my posts??? How do I do that?
Sorry , you must ask Gail .
theres an archive list to the right of the main page
What does “HHH at POB” mean?
HHH is the commentator and POB is Peak Oil Barrel the blog .
Who holds all of the debt? My guess is that a lot of it is somehow held by pension plans.
I suppose the hedge funds hold some also. There may also be privately marketed funds, such as those by Fisher Investments, that hold some also. (I don’t know whether Fisher Investments, in particular, would have this kind of funds.)
We will find out who holds it f the system starts failing.
Pension funds are a good guess. Implication: real assets will not be there in the future, haircut to make real assets match debt. That makes sense, time it so it happens after an election cycle.
A good time not to go to the barber shop.
Dennis L.
What would happen to the pension plans in a default situation?
We know that the quantity of goods and services that will be available in the future will be lower than today.
If all of the pensions would pay out as planned, what little would be available would be extremely expensive, because the amount of money available would be high in comparison.
If the pensions default, the payouts (if any) will be closer to the quantity of goods and services that are actually available.
I keep saying that people need to assume that they will need to work all of their lives. We don’t know how this will all work out. If I were distributing an inadequate quantity of goods and services (especially food), I would give it to the workers first. Pensioners and people with big bank accounts would get the leftovers, if any.
> So, Eisenhower invaded Europe, messed up thousands of lives, missing arms, legs, etc. Would the world have been better without those messed up lives?
The short answer to this counterfactual sentence is “Yes”.
First , David Eisenhower(that is his birth name) never invaded Europe. He never invaded anywhere.
Second, what is the worth of thousands of redneck lives? Not much more valuable than ending a threat to the world.
Third, I have mentioned that Eisenhower’s decision to not take Berlin, when there was nothing between US 9th Army at Magdeburg , about 150 km from Berlin, and the Chancellery was a very stupid decision, something noted by Putin in front of Tucker Carlson earlier this year.
Eisenhower claimed there would be a casualty of 100,000 and also concocted a story that the 3rd reich leadership had an alpine redoubt which had to be cleaned out first. For someone who yapped ‘logistics’ all the time that was a lame excuse since no supplies come from the Alps, and here is the ‘alpine redoubt’ for which he diverted an entire army group for
https://youtu.be/JYUnfm4jRwc?si=1Rusf8JMLmtgi9N0
Does it look like an Alpine Redoubt? Not to me, who has read quite a lot of military history.
An advance to Berlin would have led to a casualty figure of about 5,000-10,000, without the Soviet propaganda propagated by David Glantz, a friend of Moscow.
Would they have registered in the grand scheme of things? No. USA threw away 40,000 in a place called Korea, a country few Americans knew or cared about, when a couple nukes at Pyongyang and Shinuiju(near NK-Chinese border) would have ended it.
tl, dr, redneck lives were not that worth enough to cancel huge threats against civilization.
Cheer up! the world is steadily and surely getting rid of its biggest threat.
Yes it is. It is getting rid of its biggest threat by transmogrifying it into its biggest savior. Exactly because it’s the biggest, and Collapse seeks MPP just as Growth seeks MPP. MPP requires coordination. Top-down coordination. The Hand is a brain.
Meta-analysis.
The threar which had made humankind escape its trap
You seem like the eternal optimist. I am of the opinion that shit happens, and when it comes to fingers on the button the banksters have no power that can b instantly summoned.
Yeah I know it seems like optimism but it’s not that. It’s just the putting of civilization in intelligent hands under stoopid cover. At any rate it’s tracking so far.
I am not so sure. As you might know I think that low yield nukes have been used post -WW2, specifically in 2001, 2011, 2014, 2015 and 2020. The Hand is a circus acrobat walking a tight rope over a canyon. Surely he can do it inside a tent, but one tightrope walker was killed by a sudden gust of wind.
No I didn’t realize that about the low yield nukes. I see 9/11 and the Beirut blast in that list. Or is that last one Yemen, or both? But what are the middle three?
No doubt the Hand is not assured of success. That goes without saying. There’s just no point in focusing on failure in a life or death situation, so I never talk about the Hand failing. Failing isn’t interesting when there’s no possibility of trying again. Either it rises to the occasion or it bugs out to wherever it has calculated will avoid spent fuel pool fallout.
If the Hand exists like I’m sure it does, then it has every bit as much control over civilization as you have when operating your tractor on the farm. Your land can’t say no to your terra forming any more than anyone can say no to the Hand because the Hand is structurally up in everything, whether literally or psychologically. Globalization IS Lockstep. Marching in lockstep is the parading of unquestioned totalitarian violence. The Hand has no opposite precisely because it operates the tractor controls that makes the hay while the sun shines and pumps the water when the baler is switched out for the PTO water pump.
The Hand is just working with physics just like the aliens do when harnessing anti-particles. The Hand just goes with the MPP flow that civilization requires. Humans do not like to have their standards of living reduced, so everyone ultimately wants the same thing as the Hand wants, which is an annihilistic cultural anti-particle to a very particular natural law such as what Creator saw fit to gift us the conditions for.
Hey sorry, extremely busy these days. 2001 is indeed 9/11 (it took a long time to make sure all major pieces of evidence fit), 2011 is Tianjin, 2014 Dnipropetrovsk, 2015 Yemen. 2020 Lebanon. The latter had to be a fusion device. You guys do not know since you are not in the business, but see if you can find anything about an accident in Sandia lab in 2007. I think that was the method used. It is neutron free, using the (7Li,p) reaction.
oh good—we’ve cracked the fusion prpblem at last.
didnt know you were involved in fusion drb.
can you tell us how it works, or is it still secret like Wood’s death rays?
It can not be controlled Norm. These are lithium thin rods in a hydrogen atmosphere. A pulsed very high current goes through them and vaporizes them instantly. Yes, if there is any chance for it to be controlled, that is the chance for fusion. but right now it only blows up.
drb
can you give me the source for fusion bombs
Norm all thermonuclear weapons are fusion bombs.
Thanks drb for the reply. I’ll be interested to look up those middle incidents.
I’ve looked again at B/Honest.. essay and he apparently believes/allows for post plateau collapse to have future down-cascading profile.. as in temporary stabilizing at ever lower levels for a while..
Now, I’m just adding if possible, each of such plateaus could assume completely different “flavor” one could be featuring ~humanistic angle, while the next could be very rapid intentional savage depop phase etc..
We know that some past collapses have occurred in step. John Michael Greer talks about catabolic collapse.
I don’t think B is a good analyst at all. I ‘see’ one huge step down to the Phase 2 national socialisms for a handful of years maybe, of something like an 80pc GDP drop and a 50pc dieoff, and then the total capitulation of the civilization.
There are different ways of seeing things. Your way is terribly negative.
drb just called me an optimist.
B makes thinking mistakes left and right and can’t even engage people in his comments section. And he doesn’t do conspiracy, which means his analysis is inhumane. And he banned me. Life is a use it or lose it operation. If we’re not constantly cooperating and competing in the free marketplace of ideas, we get rusty. We’re no longer that man in the arena. The positive and negative feedback loops cease to exist. It’s like the no-virus controlled opposition taking exosomes out of the world. Then what’s left?
I don’t blame B for banning you.
time and again…i make digs at conspironuts and plotmongers.
B presents a high level of intellectual commentary on the way things are at the present time.
the only extant conspiracy, —and ive said this for years—is to make as much money as possible, as quickly as possible, before to system collapses in on itself. this is why we have the techno-multibillionaires, looking to be trillionaires.
they intend to turn the planet into a cash asset. And are trashing it as a result.
Musk, Theil et al are at the forefront of this, desperate to convince the gullible that ”capitailsm” will save us all—-omitting to point out that capitalism requires infinite capital, which is of course finite.
‘B’ gets it.
the sick conspiratorial joke is of course, that as the system implodes, all capital will evaporate into nothing, irrespective of how many $billions.
I don’t blame him either Gail. If he let that continue it wouldn’t be his territory anymore. You are older and wiser.
Israel?
kulm
compared with your hindsight…
my crystal ball is absolute rubbish….
i’m returning it to amazon for a full refund.
It is not a hindsight
There is the biblical tale of Esau and Jacob. Esau went hunting and returned hungry, and Jacob asked Esau to sell his birthright for a bowl of bean stew.
Since Esau lacked future time orientation, he sold is birthright to Jacob for a bowl of bean stew and his line died around the time of Herod.
There is even a famous military saying – after the battle of Rocroi, the commander, Duke of Conde declared a loss of 5,000 , high by the standards of the day, could be replaceable after a night of passion in Paris.
Basically Eisenhower bartered the right to call itself as the Victor of World War 2 to USSR, now inherited by Russia, for the lives of 5,000 – 10,000 rednecks, most of them are now dead and hardly remembered at all. If it is not stupid, I don’t know what is.
If the Americans had captured Berlin, and the Stars and Stripes flew over the Reichstag instead of the Sickle and Hammer, what difference would it have made beyond symbolism? Would it have led to more oil being in the ground today?
USSR and Russia, having no collective memory to hold themselves postwar, fall apart
The photo of the Red Flag over the Reichstag (actually empty after the infamous fire) served enormous role for the cohesion of USSR and Russia, something which we would never have occurred if Eisenhower thought the lives of 5 000 -10,000 rednecks were not worth enabling USSR to claim legitimacy as the Victor of WW2.
You just never know, perhaps if the post WWII demarcation line stayed /was pushed eastward-ly closer to the Soviet sphere proper – they would not have had overextended during the cold war as much..
Which could have had a plethora of different outcomes in itself. For example, on the US side less fervor for exalted antagonism and more cooperation between the blocks. Perhaps, the Soviets could have enjoyed more continuous time and resources for breakthroughs in next gen nuclear energy in our time, .. who knows..
Obviously, it also could have turned badly instead aka providing 1950-60s annihilation..
ps I guess Kulm meant it otherwise as more pronounced win for the West as in dictating the conditions
It would have raised a serious question about the legitimacy of Stalin. After all these deaths and destruction, nothing to show for.
Stalin might have been able to hold power during his lifetime but after he is gone USSR would have been hit with a big legitimacy crisis from which it would have been harder to recover from.
And it is unlikely that there would be a coherent entity called Russia now menacing the world’s structure.
Whatever it might have been, it would have been worth significantly more than the lives of 5,000-10,000 rednecks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36W0dMwQJxU
America’s NEW Chip Factory –$50 Billion Disaster (34:46)
531,671 views Oct 31, 2025
It seems like the low-nm AI chip race has mainly Samsung & TSMC, using ASML’s 1/2 billion $ EUV machines (does anyone else want to risk the money involved in this — when will it pay off? — it consumes lots of resources, but what does it produce?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNCYLKumin8
AI Boom or Bubble: Ed Conway goes inside the data centres powering the US economy (6:45)
207,202 views Oct 21, 2025
Sky’s Economics and Data Editor, Ed Conway gains access into the heart of “data centre alley” in Virginia – home to the servers that power nearly all the major AI and cloud services in the world.
I thought they were placed next to sources of cheap electricity. Such as hydro Quebec and the pacific northwest of the US.
“Data centers” are all over — these are some of the earliest & more important ones.
How many of these are they going to be building? I wonder if they are under estimating how much energy they will need.
Live here in Prince William County the new DC capital. If they build out all DCs under construction it will be around 90 million square feet & they will consume more electricity than greater NYC. Consumer Electricity rates already sky rocketing. Plan is small nukes & many gas turbine generators. Doubt they can accomplish much before the Jackpot.
There are a number of interesting things in this video. It shows the inside of a data center, and how it has pipes to do the huge amount of cooling necessary to keep the servers cool enough. It talks about having diesel back-up generators, in case the power goes off.
I see another video on the list called pointing out that the increase in electricity bills means people in many parts of the US are already paying more for electricity, indirectly because of these data centers.
I noticed an article in the WSJ today saying that advertisements are increasingly made partly by AI. AI starts making the video, but then (a much smaller number of artists that used in the past) fixed up the video, so it is what is wanted. So AI is already impacting employment numbers.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/coca-cola-injects-holidays-are-coming-ads-with-an-upgraded-dose-of-ai-bc8921e2
Coca-Cola Injects ‘Holidays Are Coming’ Ads With an Upgraded Dose of AI
‘Holidays Are Coming’ faster and cheaper for the soda giant, which caught heat last year for its AI-generated ads
“Before, when we were doing the shooting and all the standard processes for a project, we would start a year in advance,” Arroyo said. “Now, you can get it done in around a month.”
Coca-Cola is one of many advertisers enchanted by generative AI’s speed and cost efficiencies despite some people’s vocal distaste for the technology and its potential to make jobs in the creative industries redundant. . .
Thirty percent of connected-TV commercials, social videos and online videos this year are being built or enhanced using generative AI tools, up from 22% in 2024, according to trade group the Interactive Advertising Bureau. That figure will rise to 39% in 2026, the bureau predicts.
That the ad industry is being hurt pleases me. I do not like ads. I prefer subscriptions to pay for TV.
According to the video, one of the factory’s problems is that it started making 4 nm chips, at precisely the time that the industry was moving to 3 nm and smaller chips.
This by itself is not a problem. The transistor size is still around 40 nm and ill never get much smaller than that. Plenty of 10 nm chips get sold in the world. The problem is that it costs a lot to produce those 4nm chips, compared to what the competitors can sell them for.
“The Math Nobody Wants to Do:
1 robot at 99% success rate: 1 failure per 100 tasks Seems manageable, right? Until you scale to 1,000 robots running 24/7.
Scenario: Warehouse picking robots – Each robot: 120 picks per hour – 1,000 robots × 24 hours = 2,880,000 picks per day – At 99% success: 28,800 failures per day That’s 1,200 failures per hour. Or 20 failures every single minute Every minute of every day: – 20 items in the wrong location – 20 potential safety incidents – 20 times a human has to intervene – 20 opportunities for downstream chaos It’s not about the labour to reset your robot, It’s the downtime that will kill you. . . .
The Real Target: 99.99% You need four nines MINIMUM for production viability. Here’s why: 99% → 99.99% means reducing failures by 100x. ”? ?
https://x.com/JacklouisP/status/1985406663776747868
Seems to me if all the factory infrastructure and hardware is thought out precisely and laid out precisely, and trialed and errored enough times before going live, that 99.99% is easily achievable. Even with blind robots. Don’t you think? I’m asking you a question postkey. 😁
You probably need a human to check up on how things are going on a regular basis. How often will depend on what kinds of things can go wrong and how bad a downstream effect they will have.
Regular factories have staff members who come and fix minor problems. They may alert others if there are problems that they cannot fix. I don’t see why a robotics factory would necessarily be different.
AI still needs a number of low level employees and a few high level ones. But many chinese factories have been robotized by now so what postkey wants has largely been done.