We can’t expect COVID-19 to go away; we should plan accordingly

Can the world achieve “herd immunity” with respect to COVID-19? Anthony Fauci has said that 80% of the population needs to be vaccinated in order to reach herd immunity. My view is that using vaccines is unlikely to achieve this result, something I discussed in my August 2020 post, We Need to Change Our COVID-19 Strategy. Now, the news arm of the prestigious journal Nature has published a similar view: Five reasons why COVID herd immunity is probably impossible.

In this post, I explain why, in my view, COVID-19 seems likely to become endemic, like the flu. The vaccines won’t be enough to make it go away completely. I will also look at the issue of how we should respond to the cases of COVID-19 that we will almost certainly experience in the future.

To a significant extent, what we can and should do in the future is an energy issue. If we plan to transition to a green energy future, or if we simply plan to reduce usage of fossil fuels in future years, we probably need to scale back our plans for vaccines. In fact, any treatment that would be given in today’s emergency rooms is likely to become less and less possible as energy supplies deplete.

We will need to focus more on what our bodies can do for us, and what we can do to assist them in this effort. We also need to think about what simple changes to our environment (such as windows that open) can do for the prevention of both COVID-19 and the many other communicable diseases that we can expect to encounter in the future. The big issue will be changing expectations.

[1] Why herd immunity is unlikely

[1.1] Viruses don’t pay any attention to the geography of humans. As long as there are active cases anywhere, they will tend to spread to other countries.

Over the past year, we have seen how ineffective cutting off travel between countries is in stopping the path of the virus. Even New Zealand, far out in the Pacific Ocean, has been battling this issue. The country has found that occasional cases slip through, even with a required two-week stay in managed isolation after arrival.

Furthermore, there are hidden costs with staying this removed from the rest of the world; New Zealand’s only oil refinery has been losing money, given its low use of oil. This refinery has laid off about a quarter of its staff and is considering the option of quitting refining in 2022. New Zealand would then need to import a full range of refined products if it wants to continue having industry. Perhaps being too cut off from the rest of the world is a problem, rather than a solution.

[1.2] The cost of vaccines is high, especially for poor countries.

We can get a rough idea of the cost involved by looking at a news article about Israel’s dispute with Pfizer regarding its vaccine purchases. We can also see what goes wrong politically.

Israel recently made news for failing to pay Pfizer for the last 2.5 million vaccine doses that it purchased from the company. Pfizer retaliated by cutting off future vaccine shipments to Israel. The article linked above doesn’t tell us exactly how much Israel paid for Pfizer’s vaccine, but a calculation based on information in the article seems to indicate that future doses from a mixture of vendors would cost about $35 per dose, on average. We also know that US Medicare is paying $40 per dose for administering each dose of the vaccine. Putting these two amounts together, we can estimate that the purchase and administration of a single dose of COVID-19 vaccine costs about $75. Thus, a two-dose series costs about $150, with the high-tech vaccines Israel is now using (Pfizer, Moderna, and AstraZeneca).

We also know that Israel was planning to administer two doses per person, every six months, based on an early review of how well immunity was holding up for the vaccines. If it is really necessary to repeat the two-dose regimen every six months, then the annual per-person cost of the vaccine would be approximately 2 times $150, or $300 per person. Benjamin Netanyahu favors buying all of these doses, quite possibly because it might make him popular with voters. Netanyahu’s opposition does not, which seems to be why payment has not been forthcoming.

A cost of $300 per person would amount to 0.7% of Israel’s 2019 GDP, which is theoretically feasible. But for poorer countries, the relative cost would be much higher. For South Africa, it would amount to 5% of 2019 GDP. For Yemen, it would come to 40% of 2019 GDP. (These are my calculations, using World Bank GDP in current US$.) For countries with severe financial problems, any payment for vaccines would almost certainly be a problem.

There are less expensive vaccines being made, but their percentages of efficacy in fighting the virus that causes COVID-19 seem to be lower. Thus, it would be even more difficult to greatly reduce the number of cases down to the point where the disease would simply disappear for lack of an adequate number of victims to infect, using these vaccines.

[1.3] The fact that the disease can infect animals further adds to the problem of getting rid of the disease completely.

The disease supposedly jumped from an animal to humans to begin with. We know that the virus that causes COVID-19 can infect animals of many types, including ferrets and cats. While the disease jumping from animals to humans is supposedly unusual, we know that the disease spreads easily among humans with inadequate immunity. Having a reservoir of disease among animals raises the likelihood of this happening again. Having a reservoir of vulnerable people (not immune and in poor health) also increases such a risk.

[1.4] Microbes of all types mutate frequently. We are fighting a losing battle to stay even with them. This is especially a problem for narrowly targeted vaccines.

We know that whenever we try to reduce the population of microbes, scientists can find solutions that work for a while, but eventually we start losing the battle. Scientists can develop antibiotics against bacteria, but eventually some bacteria will evolve in a way that allows them to resist the effects of the antibiotic. In fact, antibiotic resistance is becoming a greater and greater problem. Similarly, scientists can develop weed killers, but weeds soon develop resistance to whatever we develop. The situation seems to be similar with vaccines, unfortunately.

In this case, scientists have developed vaccines that target the RNA of the spike protein of the virus that causes COVID-19. In some sense, this approach is very precise, leading to a high proportion of COVID-19 cases being stopped. The drawback is that it is very easy for small mutations in the spike protein to make the vaccine not work well. We end up needing to obtain booster shots of slightly revised versions of the vaccine quite often, perhaps every six months. If booster shots are not given, the vaccine is likely to become less effective against the new mutations that arise.

One danger is that manufacturers cannot keep up with all of changes needed to match the new mutations. Another is that the cost of trying to keep up with this whole process will become prohibitive. The medical care system may be forced to give the vaccine process up, leaving citizens worse off than they might have been if we hadn’t “flattened the curve” and kept the virus around for an extended period of time, allowing all of these mutations.

[1.5] There are very real reasons for people’s reluctance to accept the vaccine, when it is offered to them. Because of this, it is difficult to get very close to 100% acceptance (or even 80% acceptance) of the vaccines.

There seem to be any number of reasons why people are reluctant to get the new vaccine. Some are afraid of the pain involved with the shot. Others are afraid that they will be somewhat ill afterward, causing them to miss work. If employees are paid on an hourly basis and they barely have enough income as it is, this, by itself, could be a reason for avoiding the shot. Financial incentives might help with these issues.

Others who are reluctant have followed the situation more closely. They realize that important steps in the normal vaccine approval process have been skipped, making it difficult to identify adverse effects that occur fairly infrequently. Even worse, it becomes impossible to discover problems that take many months or years to become evident. Over 100 doctors and scientists from 25 countries have signed a letter saying that offering vaccines that are as radically different from what has been used in the past, without more testing, is unethical.

One concern is the likelihood of blood clots in the immediate period after the vaccine is received. Blood clots have also been observed with the AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson vaccines, and may be a concern with other vaccines, as well. There seem to be several related conditions, including sudden blindness, heart attacks, and sudden deaths of elderly people in nursing homes. These issues seem to be fairly rare, but people worry about them without adequate data on their frequency. If the issue is blood clots, it would seem as if simple adjustments such as taking low-dose aspirin for the time period of risk might be a partial solution.

We know that in some cases, vaccines can inadvertently make later exposure to somewhat different versions of the virus worse, rather than stopping these infections. The virus that causes the illness SARS is very similar to the virus that causes COVID-19. When an attempt was made at a vaccine for SARS in 2012, a study on mice showed that exposure at a later date to a slightly different virus led to blood clots forming in the lungs. We already know that blood clots can be an issue for COVID-19 vaccines. Will COVID-19 vaccine recipients who are later exposed to mutations have an adverse reaction such as blood clots in the lungs? We don’t know. There have been no animal studies with respect to the vaccines for COVID-19.

Another risk of COVID-19 vaccinations would seem to be auto-immune problems, especially in people who are already predisposed to such issues. Not much research has been done yet to clarify this issue.

A related issue is allergic reactions to vaccines, including anaphylaxis. The possibility of allergic reactions is one reason vaccine recipients are asked to stay for 15 minutes after receiving their immunizations. Even with precautions, some deaths are occurring because severe allergic reactions can take up to 150 minutes to become apparent. It is impractical to keep vaccine recipients this long.

The very long-term effects of both the COVID-19 illness and vaccines to prevent the COVID-19 illness are unknown. The Alzheimer’s Association recommends studies to see whether people who contract COVID-19 have a long-term increase in dementia-type illnesses. In theory, the vaccines could also lead to similar issues because of prion-like structures that are formed, both with the vaccine and the disease. Without long-term studies, we don’t know whether either of these concerns is valid. If dementia is an issue, will repeated vaccinations raise the long-term risk of dementia? We don’t know. If the disease itself and vaccines can both lead to dementia, is there an optimal strategy?

Without a better understanding of what the risks are, it is hard to convince young people, especially, to take the vaccine. Their chances of a severe outcome from the disease are low to begin with. What is the point of taking a vaccine that may raise their risk of serious injury or death? The vaccine may be appropriate for people aged 80 and over, but is the risk really necessary for young people? Without better data, it is hard to know for certain.

[2] Why a change away from dependence on vaccines is needed

The Nature article referred to earlier says in its concluding paragraph, “It’s time for realistic expectations. . . we need to think of how we can live with the virus.”

Also, as I mentioned in the introduction, we are reaching energy limits. Even if in theory we could vaccinate everyone on the planet twice a year for COVID-19, we do not have the resources to do this. In some ways, the problem looks like a cost problem (poor countries especially cannot afford to buy high-priced vaccines), but it is just as much a resource problem. We cannot devote enough resources to this project without taking them away from other necessary projects. The vaccines are very much a product of today’s fossil fuel economy. We can’t expect to make vaccines with intermittent electricity.

Because of limited resources, we may encounter something similar to the “empty shelf” problem in the grocery stores. We may find that only limited doses of vaccine are available because too many doses were accidentally ruined in production. Or, not enough of the right reagents were available. Or, more doses are needed in the country where the vaccine is manufactured, leaving less for use elsewhere. Or, there is a war in a country integral to vaccine supply lines, interfering with production.

In fact, obtaining promised supplies of vaccines is already a problem. Trying to scale up production at the same time that resources in general are squeezed is likely to make this type of problem increase.

[3] Learning to live with COVID-19 and diminishing resources per capita

If we can’t really fix the COVID-19 problem with endless vaccines for everyone, we need to look at other options.

[3.1] Strengthening our own immune systems

Our bodies come with built-in immune systems. It is the action of the immune system that tends to lead to a low incidence of and low severity of COVID-19 in some people, compared to others. Some of the things that seem to be helpful include the following:

  • Being young
  • Getting plenty of sleep at night
  • Not being overweight. Proper exercise and diet are helpful in this regard.
  • Maintaining a healthy microbiome. Our bodies need good microbes to help fight the “bad” microbes. Antibiotics, excessive antibacterial cleaners and a lack of exposure to “good” bacteria could be problems. Staying away from everyone and wearing masks, indefinitely, is not necessarily helpful.
  • Getting adequate vitamin D through sun exposure, eating of foods that are high in vitamin D and/or supplementation. Dark skinned people living away from the equator are especially at risk for inadequate vitamin D.
  • Getting adequate vitamin C from fruits and vegetables and perhaps supplementation.

Researchers need to be actively looking into optimal strategies to advise citizens. Schools might start teaching about these issues in health classes.

[3.2] Changing our customs and infrastructure to try to reduce the problem of communicable diseases in general, not just for COVID-19.

Customs for greetings among people vary greatly around the world. Some people use hugs and handshakes, others greet with bows. We may need to adopt more distant physical greetings, simply to help reduce the transmission of disease. Of course, hugging at home is still fine.

In the last 100 years, the emphasis increasingly has been on building tighter, more energy-efficient buildings. This is good from a point of saving energy, but it doesn’t work in a world with many communicable diseases. We need to move toward much more ventilation, often based on open windows. Because of energy constraints, we likely cannot expect to keep heating and cooling our buildings as much in the future. We will need to dress more for outdoor temperatures, indoors.

Some leaders have suggested rapid electric rail is the way of the future, but rail transport also needs to be well ventilated. It is also likely that we will be dealing with more intermittency of electricity supply in the future. We need to plan as if we are dealing with an electricity constrained future, as much as an oil and vaccine constrained future.

[3.3] Finding low energy ways to deal with the likely COVID-19 cases that do occur.

The approach in the “rich world” to date in looking for ways to deal with COVID-19 has been to look for new, high technology drugs and vaccines that might have a two-fold benefit (a) help sick people and (b) help the pharmaceutical industry. What we really need are technologies that are low cost and can be used at home. Repurposed old drugs, such as steroids, are ideal, especially if they can be made locally without dependence on international supply lines.

If COVID-19 doesn’t really disappear, we can expect recurring instances of having inadequate medical facilities to treat all of the patients in a given area. Countries need to plan strategies for dealing with this likely long-term problem. Should there be an upper age limit on patients using these facilities, for example, especially when demand is high? Or can the richest citizens have the ability to buy services, when others cannot? Should there be a lottery for beds? Ordering everyone to remain at home is sort of a temporary solution, but it is very damaging to the economy as a whole.

[3.4] Finding leadership that can think in a direction other than “more technology will save us.” Unfortunately, this is pretty much impossible.

Back in 1979, Jimmy Carter tried to change the direction of the US economy when he gave his famous Sweater Speech. In this speech, he told people that they needed to adjust their thermostats and drive their vehicles less because there was an energy crisis. We all know that Jimmy Carter was not reelected after this speech. Instead, Ronald Reagan was elected. He cut taxes and raised debt levels, temporarily delaying our need to deal with our energy problem.

When Anthony Fauci took on the COVID-19 issue, he led us in the direction of spending more money on vaccines and pharmaceuticals. His own financial interests and his work interests were in the direction of helping the vaccine and pharmaceutical interests. He certainly didn’t stop to think, “This is not a battle that we can win. There are too many instances of transmission of the virus by people who have no symptoms. Our track record at wiping out diseases with vaccines has been pretty dismal in the past. Stopping COVID-19 in one part of the world won’t stop the long-term problem.”

I expect that President Biden will continue on his current path until the economy “runs off the cliff.” I wrote in my recent post, Headed for a Collapsing Debt Bubble, that the economy was reaching a point where a major discontinuity would occur. Interest rates are about as low as they can go, and debt levels are reaching an upper bound.

Figure 1. Ten-year and three-month US Treasury interest rates as of March 1, 2021.

Ronald Reagan’s administration started to decrease interest rates shortly after he took office in 1981. This drop in interest rates has hidden rapidly rising debt and energy problems for many years. We are now running out of room on both energy and debt. When the world’s debt bubble collapses, our ability to fight COVID-19 with vaccines will likely go downhill quickly. We will then need to find new strategies. Unfortunately, considering new strategies in advance is almost impossible.

[4] Conclusion

While it is possible to see what change in direction seems to be needed with respect to COVID-19 and infectious diseases in general, it is not something that those in leadership positions will be able to implement. Instead, we will likely “go off the cliff” at full speed. Changing expectations in advance is almost impossible.

At most, a few interested people can try to explain to their fellow citizens what is happening. Perhaps, in our own little spheres of influence, we can make some small changes in the right direction, starting with strengthening our own immune systems.

About Gail Tverberg

My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
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3,514 Responses to We can’t expect COVID-19 to go away; we should plan accordingly

  1. Fast Eddy says:

    More people were diagnosed with Covid-19 during the past seven days than any other week since the start of the pandemic — topping 5.2 million globally — with the worst outbreaks accelerating in many countries that are ill-equipped to deal with them.


    I had total confidence that the vaccines were going to end the pandemic… seems they are making it worse?????

    I refer you to DuncNorm to explain what is going on here… or perhaps Dr Bossche is correct — the virus is strengthening?

    • Xabier says:

      And if we find Bossche’s claims too wild, (and think the highly-dangerous variant scenario over-played) then even Sucharit Bhakdi – who is closely associated with Mike Yeadon and tried to get the vaccination programme halted in the EU – suggests that the ‘vaccines’ will prime people to be wiped out by contact with any coronavirus, not just a Covid variant.

      The test of this will truly come in the autumn flu season.

      Moreover, in his opinion every injection received raises the risk of a serious ‘side-effect’ outcome, even if the first ones have had no nasty effects; and he recommends that those who want a 3rd ‘booster’ shot ‘should make their wills’ before doing so. All the ‘vaccines’ are equally dangerous, in his view. Luck doesn’t hold for ever….

      He observes that the claims made by the pharma firms about their trials in 2020 are ‘shit’ – and that trials on children are nothing short of ‘criminal.’ Strong words from so well-spoken and reasonable a man.

      Bhakdi doesn’t talk about genocide and secret sterilisation, like Yeadon, so his interviews are suitable to recommend to those who dismiss any whiff of ‘conspiracy theories’ – pure science, and reason.

      Clearly, I should have thought, it must be best to go into this potential nightmare with a natural immune system, and unvaccinated: the ‘vaccines’ set us up, in effect, for a kind of Russian Roulette when any infection occurs, and a higher risk of a fatal cytokine storm

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Difficult to determine exactly what these ‘vaccines’ will do but suffice to say when you want to give them to 8B people who do not need them (even if they were what the claim they are)… and you throw in the peak oil + imminent collapse data —- the conclusion must be worst case scenario (for me it’s best case but that’s another story)…

        Anyway.. I passed the latest Dr Hodkinson rant to a friend in Hong Kong along with the occidental petrol article (he used to work for Big Oil so is aware of them) … who is mired in CovIDIOCY… yadda yadda …

        He says ‘who are they’ (that are behind th is CEP)…

        They are the same people who are ordering the MSM to attack Sweden — who order social media to block all experts who dissent on Covid…

        I have also been reminding him of The Leak as each prediction comes to pass….

        (I have another mate her in NZ who has been aware of the leak for about 4 months – is not a CovDIOT but rejected the leak because ‘there is no way they would do that’ … saw him on Sunday and he mentioned UBI and the Leak .. he’s come around on that — and said he’s going to sell all assets in Canada — I said .. note that the leak says this is a global plan .. so not sure if that is going to matter)

        This is a guy who has had zero business for well over a year due to the riots and now covid…

        I suggested he leave the city and return home to the US to be with his family… because this is the end … we are never returning to 2019… there is not much time left…

        Overnight he posted message this:

        Another important study that’s been buried. Completely disappeared.


        I really do hope he gets on a flight home … only problem is his wife is not from the US….

        I would return to Canada now but I am in a similar situation … wife’s family is not in Canada… and we have these two kids and cannot say sorry guys — the world is ending so everyone needs to return home.

        And then there is our dog … I doubt she’d last if released into the wild on her own (the rabbits are too fast)… even if she could the radiation will get her…. she is such a nice dog…

        The End of the World is fraught with complications …

        • Yorchichan says:

          They are the same people who are ordering the MSM to attack Sweden

          Do you have any theory as to why the Swedish government is not going along with the lockdowns and mandatory mask wearing? Are the Elders mocking the rest of us by letting us see just how pointless these measures are whilst still forcing us to abide by them? Are the MSM attacks on Sweden part of the theatre?

          I notice Sweden has a covid-19 vaccine rollout, so I don’t doubt their leaders are as controlled as other Western leaders.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            They are going along… they are vaccinating…

            Perhaps the Swedes preferred that their citizens died with dignity and said FU… we will NOT be masked and locked down in our last year or so of life…

            We are ok with the lethal injection but not the rest of the CEP.

          • Kowalainen says:

            Haha, yeah, good luck “convincing” Sweden. You’d be hacked into oblivion in no time. You’d never know where it came from – only that 100 power plants went berserk and shut down at once. And then Swedes would switch alliances in a nanosecond sucking even harder on the Russian/Eurasian bloc spigots.

            “The Russians did it”
            “The Chinese did it”
            “Kim did it”


            Yeah, good luck try to win that “war” against Sweden. Swedes been busy with information warfare for a century, at least. The NSA/CIA you might wonder? Testosterone riddled muppets flapping their cookie holes too much.


    • nikoB says:

      Is it in countries being vaccinated or not?

  2. Mirror on the wall says:

    China is getting the act together in Asia.

    > Boao Forum to further integrate Asian economies, boost global governance

    “Despite the pandemic, a total of approximately 2,600 representatives from more than 60 countries and regions, and more than 1,200 journalists from 160 media organizations from 18 countries and regions attended the conference, BFA Secretary General Li Baodong, told a press conference on Sunday.

    …. In terms of purchasing power parity, Asia’s share in the global economic aggregate in 2020 reached 47.3 percent, up 0.9 percentage points from 2019, the report showed, indicating the increasing role of Asia in the global economy. As Asia’s largest economy, China led Asia with an impressive GDP growth rate of 2.3 percent last year. In the first quarter of 2021, China’s economy grew by 18.3 percent year-on-year.

    The report also shows that the economic integration of all Asian economies is accelerating. By February 2021, there had been 186 regional trade agreements in force inside and outside Asia, accounting for 54.9 percent of the total regional agreements around the world.

    The integration of the trade of goods and services in Asia is accelerating. The trade dependence of Asian economies among each other is nearly 50 percent in 2019, with bilateral trade volumes continuing to grow, said Lin Guijun, vice president of the University of International Business and Economics, during a press conference at Boao on Sunday.

    Looking ahead to 2021, the Asian economy will likely experience consistent growth, with a growth rate of more than 6.5 percent, the report noted, citing the pandemic as the main variable that affects regional economic growth.


    • Kowalainen says:

      The CCP obviously have been blinded, deceived, by the myopia of Taiwan. When economic ties are established, the means of control already exists.

      What exactly is won by directly dictating to people that feel nothing except contempt for the Commie muppetry? What a crazy idea. Even, yes, even when the Taiwanese for all practical intents and purposes is Chinese. More Chinese than the Commie botch job that mismanages mainland China.

      Cost benefit analysis of invading Taiwan:

      Cost: Everything
      Benefit: Nothing

      A fixation without a discernible objective. Symbols for simpletons.

      • Taiwan already is subject to problems that could bring it down. Too low water supply and inability to import food could become a huge problem, I expect. Keeping COVID away is not the only problem facing Taiwan.

      • Mirror on the wall says:

        K, I am really not interested in your personal need to insult everyone. I thought I made that clear.

        • Kowalainen says:

          First, it is not an insult to you, the writer. It was a commentary regarding the Commie muppets.

          Besides, that wasn’t an insult to begin with, rather an iron clad fact.

          Why this insistence on glorifying the Commie lunatics and self entitled sanctimonious marxists? Crypto Commie much?


          • Mirror on the wall says:

            So CCP does not share the values into which you were socialised – so what? Are you going to insult and be hostile to everyone on the basis of your own subjectivity?

            What about multiperspectivity? It seems that the only perspective in Lapland is looking ‘down’ from the frosty, charmless ‘heights’ of your own primate sanctimony.

            Your ‘inner self’ is a traditional, austere, dogmatic Protestant rather than a Viking as claimed. : )

            • Kowalainen says:

              “What about multiperspectivity?”


              Exactly; I look down upon the commie muppets, so should you.


              “Your ‘inner self’ is a traditional, austere, dogmatic Protestant rather than a Viking as claimed. : )”

              Call me a devotee of austere, dogmatic, technocratic, evolutionary libertarianism.

              The warmongering muppet Vikings can go **** themselves back into oblivion.

              For sure I command a rapacious primate sanctimonious hypocrite score of 2 out of 11.

              You know I am right.


            • Kowalainen says:

              Nah, just pulling your leg. I don’t care that much in reality. It is what it is.


    • Mirror on the wall says:


  3. Oxidative and Inflammatory Events in Prion Diseases: Can they Be Therapeutic Targets?

    • Excerpt from Abstract:

      This overview presents evidence to show that increased oxidative stress and inflammation are involved in the progression of this disease. Evidence is given for the participation of redox-sensitive metals Cu and Fe with PrPsc inducing oxidative stress by disturbing the homeostasis of these metals. The fact that some antioxidants block the toxicity of misfolded PrPc peptide supports the role of oxidative stress in prion disease.

      You don’t want too much copper or iron in the diet. Some antioxidants may help.

      • Dennis L. says:

        Thoughts on which anti oxidants?

        Dennis L.

        • Take a look at Sections 13 and 14 from the paper yourself. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6635421/

          The authors advocate not relying on a single antioxidant. Instead, a mixture is needed to protect all parts of the cell in all conditions.

          Among other things, the authors say,

          both the aqueous and lipid compartments of the cell need to be protected together. Water-soluble antioxidants such as vitamin C and glutathione protect molecules in the aqueous environment of the cells, whereas lipid-soluble antioxidants such as vitamin A and vitamin E protect molecules in the lipid compartment; (g) vitamin E is more effective in quenching free radicals in a reduced oxygenated cellular environment, whereas vitamin C and alpha-tocopherol are more effective in a higher oxygenated environment of the cells [91]; (h) vitamin C is important for recycling the oxidized form of alpha-tocopherol to the antioxidant form.

  4. New evidence from UK that the new Indian B.167 variant could be a serious problem. Unlike UK B117, it may combine increased infectiousness AND immune resistance. It’s still only 0.5% of UK cases, but its spread is comparable or faster than B117.

    Chart indicates that it is spreading as fast in UK as B117 did in its early days. But B117 was competing against the old variants, and B1.617 is competing vs B117, so it implies B1.617 is even more infectious.

  5. Paper from 2015:

    Imperfect Vaccination Can Enhance the Transmission of Highly Virulent Pathogens

    Could some vaccines drive the evolution of more virulent pathogens? Conventional wisdom is that natural selection will remove highly lethal pathogens if host death greatly reduces transmission. Vaccines that keep hosts alive but still allow transmission could thus allow very virulent strains to circulate in a population. Here we show experimentally that immunization of chickens against Marek’s disease virus enhances the fitness of more virulent strains, making it possible for hyperpathogenic strains to transmit. Immunity elicited by direct vaccination or by maternal vaccination prolongs host survival but does not prevent infection, viral replication or transmission, thus extending the infectious periods of strains otherwise too lethal to persist. Our data show that anti-disease vaccines that do not prevent transmission can create conditions that promote the emergence of pathogen strains that cause more severe disease in unvaccinated hosts.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      With Mareks… unvaxxed chickens die in about 10 days if they encounter a Mareks infected chicken…

      I believe the vaccine for Mareks is being constantly tweaked as the virus evolves…

      I was sitting at the table having a coffee on this bright sunny fall day and thought what the hell… I may as well get one more PHD before this shit show ends…. haven’t done much in the field of virology and this surely is a must have in the life of a Renaissance Man…

      PHD Thesis – Fast Eddy – 2021 – 1045am — Connecting the Dots – Mareks and the CEP

      Bossche says using a leaky vaccine during a pandemic is a recipe for disaster… never been done before because it’s … a recipe for disaster…

      Vaccinate a billion or so with this leaky Covid vaxx… leading to a Mareks-like scenario where you create an extremely deadly virus… that quickly kills everyone who does not have the vaxx…

      BUT because the virus is mutating so rapidly/dangerously due to the pandemic/leaky vax combo… the Covid vaxx does not protect the vaxxed…

      And there are no tweaked vaxxes being released because this is a pillar of the CEP (not possible even if one wanted to because it would take too much time to revax over and over and over…) so the vaxxed perish with the unvaxxed.


      BTW – when I drive the Covid 21 mobile and M Fast is along … and I slam the pedal to the metal tickling the turbo charger into life … to leave a weakling in 180km wake…. I will usually murmur ‘who’s your daddy’…

      And M Fast will usually say ‘You’re f789ed’.

      There is a ring of truth to that….

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Even those that appear to recover may have internal tumours that will eventually kill them. Marek’s also affects the white blood cells that fight infection, so chickens that survive the initial infection are at risk of catching something else and succumbing to that.

      And then…


      Also, since the virus is capable of mutating to more resistant forms, the current vaccines will without a doubt become less effective as time goes on. There are currently three different varieties or “serotypes” of vaccine—each is made from a different strain of the virus.


      I am updating my PHD Thesis with this info… because the Covid vaxxes are being released during a pandemic my research indicates that resistant forms will present themselves much more quickly than what’s happened with Mareks. Difficult to put an exact time frame on it … but likely sometime after the Covid Vax Tee Vee Special and Concert.

      I am also now communicating with Geert via Linkedin… he has seen my work and is VERY impressed… he was amazed that a layman could so quickly become an expert.

      He said he had not thought about how the end game might be to create a human version of Mareks then deny the vaccinated new (and improved) vaccines that would protect against mutant strains… thereby ensuring both unvaxxed and vaxxed are eliminated…

      Last we spoke Geert told me he was emailing the Nobel Committee to nominate me for the prize in science.

      I gotta run … my assistant says there’s a Mike Yeadon on the line….

  6. hillcountry says:

    One of the most prolific writers in America, here’s a view of society from the author of the Harm City series, Plantation America and scores of history and fiction books. James Lafond hails from Baltimore. He’s been traipsing across the country lately, hanging out with his fans.


    All but one family door has been closed to me, since I have not been vaccinated. I was told that I was choosing principle over family. I could have retorted that they were choosing propaganda or fear over family. It seems that the gaslit East grows less hospitable for the free mind with every lying day.

    Most Americans actually believe in this shamdemic, despite constantly updated, published government stats—that though they are inflated by as much as 75%, including many other causes of death in the tally for the sacred disease—place risk of death somewhere much lower than one in a hundred, maybe ten times lower.

    This brings me to the other observation about the believers in this shamdemic: they are profoundly religious in their civic living and cleave to scriptural teachings they have never read. The behavior of the person of 2021 who is not a denier of one kind or another, is almost exactly the same as that of a Saint, or of a Puritan, of 400 years ago, who was ever ready to burn, or draw and quarter, or drown any person who was even suspected of denying Scripture or Gospel in heart. In our final devolution into total and absolute materialism—that being the worship [something the modern mind cannot frame outside of recent Christian forms] of disease as the God of Death. The postmodern atheist might think he has grown wise beyond religion, yet has plunged more deeply into belief by far than Thomas Jefferson or George Washington and possesses a level of faith comparable to William Bradford, Increase Mather and Nat Turner.

    Ruled by fear, a “believer,” who does not deny sacred pronouncements uttered by the media didacts, the postmodern meat-puppet is profoundly medieval of mind. We live among a priesthood more fanatic than the Aztecs who lifted fresh, gushing hearts to Hutztapotle. Be warned—they believe!

  7. Can the “double mutant” escape our immune response?

    Japanese researchers find that L452R mutation enables escape from HLA A-24 restriction of cellular immunity. This means that CD8 cytotoxic T cells trained to recognise the original “wild” version of the NF9 epitope (located in the RBM) will no longer be able to recognise the altered NF9 epitope that contains the L452R mutation.

    They found that CD8 cells did not respond to the altered epitope which they created after adding the L452R mutation.

  8. PM open to home quarantine, says ‘no rush’ on international borders reopening

    A senior minister has left open the possibility of ankle bracelets in home quarantine, as the prime minister insists Australia’s in ‘no hurry’ to reopen borders.

    A senior minister has left open the possibility of returning travellers wearing ankle bracelets to ensure they do not violate a home quarantine system touted by the federal government.

    Prime Minister Scott Morrison on Sunday raised the prospect of fully-vaccinated Australians going into home isolation when returning from abroad in a bid to free up hotel quarantine space.

    Employment Minister Stuart Robert was pressed on how the government would ensure returning travellers adhered to the rules when isolating at home.

    “What sort of ideas would there be for this? Regular visits, inspections to make sure they’re home, ankle bracelets, some sort of monitoring, how do you do it?” ABC Insiders host David Speers asked.

    Mr Robert did not rule out those prospects. He said fully-vaccinated Australians travelling abroad would be a “logical first step” as the country reopened, but conceded challenges in home quarantine would need to be ironed out.

    • Tim Groves says:

      What’s new? This is how Aussies have traditionally greeted people arriving at their shores.


      • I thought that you were going to refer to the history of Australian quarantine.



        Quarantine in Australia began with the arrival of the First Fleet at Sydney Cove and has since remained a major public health pre-occupation.

        Early problems

        When the First Fleet arrived, Sydney Cove was regarded as a healthy place. But the convicts and soldiers were not free from the epidemic scourges common in the more civilised parts of the world. Diseases recorded in the struggling days of the first settlement included cholera, dysentery, smallpox, typhoid fever and venereal diseases.

        In 1789, one year after the arrival of the First Fleet, there was an outbreak of smallpox amongst the Aboriginals, causing deaths over a wide region. However, Governor Phillip did not believe that the epidemic was linked with the arrival of the First Fleet as the first cases of the disease were observed some 15 months after the arrival of the Europeans. It was doubted that the smallpox virus was capable of sustaining over such a long period of time.

        To combat smallpox, supplies of vaccine were sought from England and by 1806, 1,000 of the population of 7,000 had been vaccinated.

        The first line of defence against the importation of disease was also established in this period. In 1804, vessels from New York were ordered into quarantine for fourteen days on arrival at Port Jackson because of an ‘infectious distemper” (1) raging in their home-port. In the following year the ship Richard and Mary was quarantined ’till further orders’ in Sydney Harbour as the crew was ‘infected with a dangerous fever’.(2)

        As the Australian colonies developed, each used quarantine as a primary safeguard of the community’s health.

        Nothing has changed!

  9. Duncan Idaho says:

    Not all vaccine ideas work – we’re already seeing that with the current coronavirus, and if you’d like to talk to some folks about that, then I suggest you call up GlaxoSmithKline and Sanofi and ask them what happened to their initial candidate, and while you’re at it, call up Merck and ask them what happened to their two. Note that I have just named three of the largest, most experienced drug companies on the planet, all of whom have come up short. So no, we did not “have the vaccine” in February.

  10. roc says:

    Dear Gail Tverberg, I usually agree with you but no, no and no!
    this virus is less dangerous than the flu and the drugs to cure it have been banned from sale!
    this pandemic is a story intended to deprive men of their freedom!
    there is a plan of the oligarchy to destroy the middle classes and to control the whole humanity by proceeding to a huge transfer of wealth to the 0,01 %!
    this criminal plan is failing.
    the nationalists “Trump” have forced the globalists to implement their plan in a hurry to force them to reveal the criminal nature of the globalist plan!

    the globalists are Malthusian and see a solution only in the disappearance of 50% of the population. they think they can manage the system with robotization!

    • Ed says:

      more than 50% at least 95%

    • We live in a strange world.

      I agree that the US healthcare system seems to have gone out of its way to avoid figuring out how to cure COVID-19 with drugs already on the shelf, and disseminating this information to physicians everywhere. This is craziness.

      Instead, the emphasis has been on vaccines and on developing expensive new drugs. Basically, how can the medical system make money off of COVID-19? Thus, the system is working on transferring money to the already very wealthy.

      We don’t know how low the mortality would go, if doctors had followed the opposite route. There are enough deaths and enough people with serious long-term problems, that COVID seems to be quite a bit worse than the flu most years.

      I think our real problem is an energy problem. This is why there is so much fighting over what to do. The vaccine-makers were not doing very well before COVID-19. They see this as their big chance to make money.

      I have heard about the World Economic Forum and its ideas for fixing the world. Even if they (or a smaller group of oligarchs) are behind this big push for vaccines and perhaps reduce the population, I haven’t wanted to go this direction in my writings. For one thing, I expect my writing would somehow be banned, if I started writing about this issue.

      I also think it is the mismatch between population and resources that allowed this type of behavior to arise. Something has to happen to fix this situation. I am not convinced that the plan that the oligarchs have created (whatever it is, exactly) will be successful. They have hatched a plan, but there are quite a few things that could bring it to an end. The failure of the world financial system could be one of them. We need to be watching in many directions, not just what the oligarchs would like.

      • Xabier says:

        I’d agree, Gail, that you would be banned in the current climate, and it is very wise of you not to allude to any of that.

    • Tim Groves says:

      The globalists single biggest mistake was using whiny Bill Gates to front for their jab plan.

      Someone like this would have swept the opposition away completely.


    • Thierry says:

      I don’t think Trump or nationalists forced anything. They have been fooled like all of us. The orange man was a puppet like any politician and he played his role perfectly to lead the US where they are.

  11. Fast Eddy says:

    Another indication that Tesla is fully supported by the makers of the Matrix…

    This is actually very funny …. I’d recommend this on the grave stones:

    Here Lies Stupid.


    • This accident has been written up on the NY Times, CNBC, Reuters, and WSJ, among others. I expect that it will have a negative impact on Tesla’s stock price and future car sales. It has happening enough times before.


      “There was no one in the driver’s seat,” Sgt. Cinthya Umanzor of the Harris County Constable Precinct 4 said.

      The 2019 Tesla Model S was traveling at a high rate of speed, when it failed to negotiate a curve and went off the roadway, crashing to a tree and bursting into flames, local television station KHOU-TV said.

      • Dennis L. says:


        I am not waving the flag for Tesla, but how many “regular” cars are involved in accidents? More telling would be the number of accidents per mile driven comparing various cars. A wild guess is a car such as the Corvette would have one of the worst accident records for the simple reason so much power in a car requires a professional driver. A 2020 Corvette goes 0 to sixty in 2.8 seconds.

        I firmly believe the value of Tesla is in the software, not the automobile. These are essentially rolling test beds; very similar to early automobiles, dished steering wheels, seat belts were products of the sixties, air bags of maybe the eighties? These cars are learning in the real world not on a test track. This learning cannot be purchased, indeed Tesla is having people pay for for the learning, that is pretty bright.

        Cars crash all the time, planes crash sometimes, mostly it is failure of a computer system, a very ancient analogue computer system, the driver or pilot.

        What I personally see in Tesla comments is a reaction against AI, it is emotional and perfectly human.

        Dennis L.

        • Dennis, we can understand why a human might “fail to navigate a curve”, but these systems are supposed to be better than humans. If so, why do they routinely run into parked cars and even emergency vehicles?

          Somehow, taking one’s chances on the road with all the other monkeys is more coherent (even if more dangerous) than subjecting oneself to a random and unfeeling automated meat grinder.

        • I don’t even understand why they are still allowed on the road, when much less deadly aberrations have forced industry recalls.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            Fast Eddy Magic Act — all AI robots welcome…

            And for my next trick … I will solve a Captcha….

            Ooooh ahhh… say the robots — how did he do that?

            Here – look – this is what I did…. it’s easy….

            Ooooh ahhh… say the robots — how did he do that?

  12. Fast Eddy says:

    Koko wouldn’t have done so well with these chaps:


  13. Fast Eddy says:

    Belfast riots worst since ‘start of Troubles’ says community worker


    It’s about time they got back to business!

    • Mirror on the wall says:

      14 year olds chimping out. ‘Business’ is a large part of the problem. The perception is that they were put up to it by urban drug gangs in retaliation for recent arrests.

      > Criminal gangs blamed for stoking Northern Ireland violence

      Belfast’s worst spate of sectarian violence in years is being stoked by criminal gangs and anonymous voices on social media, making it harder to control than the paramilitary-led clashes of Northern Ireland’s past, local leaders and security analysts told the Financial Times. 

      The protagonists were mostly teens and young adults. Their age — coupled with police claims that there was a “degree of organisation” to the activities — fuels widespread belief there are greater forces behind clashes that have garnered attention from global powers including the US some 23 years after the Good Friday Agreement brokered peace in the region. 


      • Mirror on the wall says:

        Arguably the best thing that the government in the south could do to encourage support for Irish unity in certain parts of Belfast would be to legalise marijuana in the south now. : )

  14. Mirror on the wall says:

    FT has an Ipsos-Mori survey – less than 1 in 4 think that UK will exist in this form in 10 years, 1/2 say no. The sense that the UK has had its day seems to be pretty widespread within Britain. People abroad perhaps do not realise the scale of the sense of momentum and finality that is felt within Britain itself.

    > Half of UK thinks Scotland should be allowed second independence referendum

    Poll reveals less than a quarter of people think UK will exist in current form a decade from now

    …. The survey of more than 8,500 people is likely to increase pressure on UK prime minister Boris Johnson.

    Ipsos Mori found 51 per cent of people across the UK believed the SNP should be allowed to hold another independence referendum within the next parliament’s five-year term if the party won a Holyrood majority. It found 40 per cent believed the UK government should block such a vote.

    It found only 24 per cent thought the UK would exist in its current form in 10 years’ time, compared with 53 per cent who thought it would not and 23 per cent who didn’t know.


    • Mirror on the wall says:

      Interestingly, support for an independence referendum if SNP gains a majority of SMPs is highest in NI.

      > Labour leaders ‘out of touch’ as poll shows their voters back indyref2

      ANAS Sarwar and Keir Starmer have been branded “out of touch” after a new poll revealed Labour voters overwhelmingly support Scotland’s right to determine its future – if the SNP win a landslide next month. Research by Ipsos MORI poll shows two-thirds of 2019 UK Labour voters think the Tory government should agree to a referendum if the SNP win a majority in the Holyrood election. A third of Conservative voters also believe Boris Johnson should sign off on indyref2, as do 53% of LibDem voters. Overall, more than half (51%) of respondents agreed an SNP majority would represent a mandate which Westminster should not contest, while 40% disagreed.

      Support for holding another referendum is highest among those in Northern Ireland (66%) and Scotland (56%), while a majority of those in England and Wales also believe the SNP should be able to hold a second vote (51%).


  15. cb says:

    Someone else may have already pointed it out: We do have a very efficient, very cheap substance to cure any infectious disease. The best introduction may be the documentary “The Universal Antidote” ( https://theuniversalantidote.com ) . Further good information can be found at https://www.brighteon.com/channels/clo2tvnews

    • When I look up chlorine dioxide, I find water purification tablets and liquids.

      Other things I discover:

      Chlorine dioxide is toxic and can burn or severely irritate the skin and eyes in high concentrations. The Occupational Safety and Health Administration states that the highest exposure to chlorine dioxide in the air should be 0.1 ppm and 0.3 mg/m3.

      A site called Self Hacked says:

      Miracle Mineral Solution

      Miracle Mineral Solution is a product that contains sodium chlorite, which reacts with an acid (like lemon juice) to form chlorine dioxide. The creator claimed that it can cure AIDS, cancer, hepatitis, malaria, and autism [37].

      If it sounds like snake oil to you, you’d be right. MMS is considered wildly unsafe and has been reported to cause [37]:

      Severe vomiting
      Low blood pressure (hypotension)

      In one case, a patient developed Kikuchi-Fujimoto disease after drinking an unknown amount of the miracle mineral solution. The solution triggered an inflammatory response and caused fever, night sweats, and swollen lymph nodes [37].

      It is banned in the US, UK, and Canada. The FDA has released specific warnings about the potentially life-threatening side effects of MMS. We strongly advise against using this product for any reason [38].

  16. Duncan Idaho says:

    Chasing the Elusive Numbers That Define Epidemics

    Interesting, but a bit chewy.
    Might be best ignored by this podcast.

    • Interesting about how the theory keeps evolving.

      The early iteration reminded me of the difference between the difference between the number of births per mother and a measure that takes into account the age of the mother. Of course, with population growth, we talk about the percentage rate at which the population is growing, which incorporates both of the number of births per mother and the age at which those births are occurring, plus the rate at which deaths are occurring.

      It is ultimately the percentage rate at which COVID cases are growing (or hospitalizations or deaths are growing) that is growing. This needs to take into account similar variables. But it is not as easy as population growth, because becoming immune is not the same as death. Death takes a person out of the data set completely. Becoming immune (through vaccine or the illness) is a temporary situation. It may not protect against the next variation of the virus going around. Immunity may not last for more than a few months. So a victory may be a very temporary victory.

      With respect to trying to prevent COVID illnesses, I think that at some point a person has to start thinking: How much does this whole process cost? What resources are involved in trying to do this? What is being accomplished by this exercise? How many years of life are being saved? Does the process simply collapse the economy, faster than otherwise would be the case, by closing down businesses and keeping customers away?

  17. Eudora says:

    Gail I know you have often said that we will more than likely experience a deflation episode. But

    with the stock market way up, housing way up, housing material way up, food prices way up. Where

    I live I am seeing many businesses desperate for help advertising starting wage at $20 for menial

    work and the counties and cities are doing cost of living adjustments for the higher housing cost

    because it now takes more than half million to buy a starter house if you are lucky enough to get it…

    With wage inflation, material inflation, soon maybe energy inflation….won’t oil be priced much

    higher in the future? It just seems so counterintuitive to me that we will have deflation will all the money printing etc….

    Is that it will be inflation in numbers only? But isn’t that inflation? I am seeing the value of the U.S

    dollar falling rapidly etc… I listen to Jeff Snider on Making Sense podcast a lot and he always says

    we will see deflation but I just can’t see it. Am I looking from the wrong angle?

    • The concern I have is with the bubble that is allowing all of these high prices collapsing.

      Then we will have lots and lots of empty shelves, and lots and lots of jobless people.

      How does this play out? We haven’t had quite this situation.

      Our recent past has had the problem with too much wage disparity leading to a lot of low income people not being able to afford the goods and services available. This is what leads to falling commodity prices and deflation.

      Also, collapsing debt bubble leads to banks going out of business and a lack of money for factories and investments in mines and all kind of mineral extraction. This happened in the US Depression of the 1930s.

      If goods and services are still available, I think it will again lead to deflation because buyers don’t have funds.

      If there is practically nothing available and nearly everyone is out of work, I don’t know what happens. I expect that if there are governments, they will try to introduce a new currency and give it to everyone equally. This would be a form of rationing.

      • theblondbeast says:

        I made the point recently that the activities of central banks are not inflationary (beyond buoying expectations). There is a good zerohedge article up today showing evidence for it. By expanding reserves, CB’s enable banks to make more loans. This doesn’t mean they will. With no profitable private investments the money winds up in the financial system.


        This is evidence of broad of deflationary pressure and the decreasing money multiplier.

        I accept that real inflation is higher than CPI. I think the real point of CPI is following long term trends and changes in direction, not the absolutely level.

        It’s true that producer prices are increasing – but I see no reason to believe that these can be passed on to consumers. Rather, it will put pressure on the bottom line. Since producer profits have been flat I expect this to put more downward pressure on wages. Automation was a big theme last year.

        I expect 1-3 quarters of positive news from the stimulus, followed by another leg down.

        • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

          that’s worth keeping in mind that we are still in the stimulus phase of the economic endgame.

          the recently enacted $1.9 trillion will help for a few quarters.

          the $2 trillion infrastructure bill may be cut in half but that will also help.

          because of that stimulus, the next leg down will be delayed into 2022.

          which assumes no upcoming black swan, which by definition is a rarity.

      • RICHARD Marleau says:

        Yes as we collectively transition from surplus and plenty to scarcity rations will hopefully cushion the descent to scarcity. It will still be a descent. The societal and political appetite / palletabillity for rations will be an interesting experience. Then again within a month of temporary lockdowns people somewhat adjusted to a new normal but the carrot of a return to normal with vaccine development was dangled and believed by most. People might begin to question whether a return to surplus is possible if temporary rationing is instituted.

        As mentioned before supply chain disruption could be a severe contributor to overall scarcity. I am involved in Agriculture production in Western Canada and anecdotally among other things certain equipment parts are starting to be scarce. Waiting for a part for more than three days has been a big inconvenience in busy seasons with functioning supply chains. Wait times could now be weeks which when working with the weather can have a huge impact on productivity. Imagine 1 million dollar seeding outfits capable of seeding a section of land (640 acres) a day waiting for a $500 sensor chip or solenoid etc. I have said before there is plenty of capacity for production but now supply chain disruptions could trim it quickly.

        • Kowalainen says:

          The prices for essentials will follow inflation. The mass produced frivolous jank will cease to be churned out.

          There is exactly zero inflation on unobtanium products by the simple mechanic that it doesn’t exist.

          People will make stuff themselves with whatever tools that is still at their disposal, from fancy 5-axis CNC rigs to sewing machines and simple 3D printers. Whatever keeps the clunker rolling, Cuba ‘style’.

          Watch it transition more or less smoothly into a pre-scarcity society. There isn’t much of a choice, now is there?

        • Sam says:

          Thanks for your input Richard; I work in the electrical field and I am seeing the same thing! I am about two weeks out on motor starters and contractors sometimes longer! I am buying extra and putting it on the shelf just in case! I warned co workers at the start of this that all these complex building would be in trouble; very few have just a switch to turn the lights on and off! Lots of boards and contactors nothing simple…..elevators will be the next problem I suspect. Maybe fat Americans will get in shape! I thought we would not be seeing this problem until fall or the end of the summer but it seems it is getting closer now.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            Just wait till June and this will get far more serious…..

            – Projected supply chain break downs, inventory shortages, large economic instability. Expected late Q2 2021.

            Then we’ll get this – in Canada — but it’s a global plan so this is what we all have to look forward to:

            – Deployment of military personnel into major metropolitan areas as well as all major roadways to establish travel checkpoints. Restrict travel and movement. Provide logistical support to the area. Expected by Q3 2021. Along with that provided road map the Strategic Planning committee was asked to design an effective way of transitioning Canadians to meet a unprecedented economic endeavor.

          • Ed says:

            Was in Nashville three weeks ago. The hotel started with one broken elevator two working. Then it was two broken and one working. With twenty floors that it slow slow slow. I was thinking labor but now I see it could be parts.

            • Broken elevators arestill perhaps better than getting stuck in elevators in unexpected blackouts. With less reliable electricity supply going forward, I would build buildings with windows that open and no elevators.

            • Artleads says:

              It’s so important to get that clear. But why not just stop building altogether, and just instead try to gin up existing buildings so they can be useful without electricity? Ramps should be popular in the future. Skyways to get from building to building on skates, etc….

        • Fast Eddy says:

          That is the least of your worries Richard…

          I am from Bosnia. You know, between 1992 and 1995, it was hell. For one year, I lived and survived in a city with 6,000 people without water, electricity, gasoline, medical help, civil defense, distribution service, any kind of traditional service or centralized rule.

          Our city was blockaded by the army; and for one year, life in the city turned into total crap. We had no army, no police. We only had armed groups; those armed protected their homes and families.

          When it all started, some of us were better prepared. But most of the neighbors’ families had enough food only for a few days. Some had pistols; a few had AK-47s or shotguns.

          After a month or two, gangs started operating, destroying everything. Hospitals, for example, turned into slaughterhouses. There was no more police. About 80 percent of the hospital staff were gone. I got lucky. My family at the time was fairly large (15 people in a large house, six pistols, three AKs), and we survived (most of us, at least).

          The Americans dropped MREs every 10 days to help blockaded cities. This was never enough. Some — very few — had gardens. It took three months for the first rumors to spread of men dying from hunger and cold. We removed all the doors, the window frames from abandoned houses, ripped up the floors and burned the furniture for heat. Many died from diseases, especially from the water (two from my own family). We drank mostly rainwater, ate pigeons and even rats.

          Money soon became worthless. We returned to an exchange. For a tin can of tushonka (think Soviet spam), you could have a woman. (It is hard to speak of it, but it is true.) Most of the women who sold themselves were desperate mothers.

          Arms, ammunition, candles, lighters, antibiotics, gasoline, batteries and food. We fought for these things like animals. In these situations, it all changes. Men become monsters. It was disgusting.

          Strength was in numbers. A man living alone getting killed and robbed would be just a matter of time, even if he was armed.

          Today, me and my family are well-prepared, I am well-armed. I have experience.

          It does not matter what will happen: an earthquake, a war, a tsunami, aliens, terrorists, economic collapse, uprising. The important part is that something will happen.

          Here’s my experience: You can’t make it on your own. Don’t stay apart from your family; prepare together, choose reliable friends.


          • RICHARD Marleau says:

            Yes things can unravel in a hurry. I am hoping for a longer timespan of descent before it is mad max or similar to your Bosnia experience. In light of the apparent situation my Hopes are just that hopes.

            Perhaps since 2008 we have been in the muddle thru phase and are now transitioning to the noticable descent phase and associated chaos. Not back to normal but a new normal.

        • Very good points! Thanks for your input.

    • Robert Firth says:

      Eudora, I was puzzled by modern economics for a long time. Then I decided to abandon fiat money and measure everything in terms of gold. And yes, you can have deflation and inflation simultaneously. Deflation: the price of goods and services in gold is falling. Inflation: their price in dollars (or euro or pounds or dinar) is rising.

      A salutory reminder, perhaps, that the intrinsic value of all fiat money is zero. Everything else is lies and delusion.

      • Eudora says:

        Something like this??

      • Kowalainen says:

        Everything that is a proxy for energy, raw material and information is a fantasy of unrealistic expectations on a finite planet.

        Call it what you want, fiat, crypto, gold (backed). It’s just stuff without purpose unless there is an production apparatus that makes us believe it carry value.

        Can’t eat gold, can’t burn gold. Precisely the same as crypto and fiat. However, I’ll grant you that gold is as valuable as any other material needed to keep the furnaces of prosperity blasting out prosperity.

  18. Alex says:

    Eddy, still beating the dead horse of deadly mutations? C’mon man. Even scaremongering corporate presstitutes have mostly phased out the narrative. Or the WHO:

    “GENEVA (AP) — [Dr. Kate O’Brien, director of WHO’s department of immunization, vaccines and biologicals,] says there’s “very little evidence” to suggest that three highly transmissible variants of the coronavirus cause more severe COVID-19 disease.”


    • Robert Firth says:

      Alex, why are you still trying to ride the dead horse that is the World Health Organisation? They are the bought and paid for puppets of big pharma and the global oligarchs. Nothing they say can be trusted.

      • Alex says:

        That’s my point exactly. Even a globalist mouthpiece such as WHO has ditched this narrative.

    • Fast Eddy says:


      Dr Byram Bridle
      Byram Bridle

      Dr. Byram Bridle is an Associate Professor of viral immunology at the University of Guelph. His research program focuses on the development and optimization of vaccines for the treatment of infectious diseases and cancers. In March of this year he and two of his colleagues were commissioned by the government of Ontario to engineer several potential vaccine candidates to provide protective immunity against severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus-2 (SARS-CoV-2), which is the causative agent of the coronavirus disease that emerged in 2019 (COVID-19).

      In collaboration with the National Microbiology Laboratory in Winnipeg, Manitoba, one of the vaccine candidates proved effective in protecting hamsters from COVID-19. This resulted in a contract being established with the National Research Council of Canada (NRC) to develop a manufacturing process for the vaccine. A second contract has been established with the NRC to advance a second-generation CVODI-19 vaccine into the translational research pipeline. Dr. Bridle has also co-authored a series of lay articles in The Conversation to provide information to the lay public about the immunological aspects of COVID-19 and the development of vaccines.

      His thought

      EMAIL 1
      Although Geert gets there by a slightly different route, we both end up at the same conclusion: that current design of the vaccines and the way they are being rolled out creates risk of the emergence of immunoevasive variants.

      EMAIL 2
      I don’t agree 100% with some of the minutiae of the scientific arguments, but that is a moot point.

      I long ago drew a similar conclusion via a slightly different route through immunological and virological principles.

      In short, I agree with the big picture argument being made.

      I haven’t been so bold as to draw conclusions that are as ‘strong’, but I can’t disagree at all with Geert’s take-home message.

      He is a respected scientist and has published many papers in well-respected journals. I can guarantee that he knows what he is talking about. I do think there is a high probability of our vaccine rollouts driving the emergence of dangerous variants.

      • Tim Groves says:

        Here is Geert’s latest talk. He’s had a shave and changed his top. I told himif he wants to reach a modern TV audience he needs have his hair dyed and styled, bleech his teeth, and put on some makeup or at the very least some moisturizer, but he prefers the slightly disheveled and unkempt “mad Belgian professor” look.

        Today’s talk is entitled “Innate immunity is the cornerstone of herd immunity against acute viral infections”. Take it away, Geert!

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Imagine Geert appearing at the Gala Covid Tee Vee Special … with all those famous athletes and celebrities with their veneers, fake tits and Botoxed faces …

          There would be wails of ‘who’s the nerd? boooorrrrrring… we want Beyonce! and Jz.. why weren’t Paris and Kim not invited instead of this goof?’

          I actually fully support students who shoot up high schools…. it’s called payback. Possibly even karma.

    • The thing we should be focusing on is “more transmissible.” Also, perhaps current vaccines won’t provide protection against these mutations.

  19. hillcountry says:

    This Urban Explorer only photographs the buildings, but his documentary Abandoned Detroit – The City of Neglect is outstanding. Just think of the energy spent in the attempt to resurrect even a small portion of what was lost (long before the 2013 bankruptcy). It’s akin to some ‘Musical Chairs’ on the Titanic prioritization. The ‘vibrant’ part of the city has shrunk to around 6 square miles. This gives us some sense of what the next wave down will accomplish over time, probably in much shorter spans depending on the city considered.

    It’s really eye-opening dramatic to see how many different things owners and interested parties literally walked-away from; including a 40-story building I used to work in back around 1980. You’ll be amazed to see the before and after shots of restored architectural gems, which are a very small sub-set of the huge number of abandoned and demolished buildings including; 120 schools, a number of bowling alleys, churches, skyscrapers, boxing rings, hair salons, rock clubs, and more. I still had an apron-string in 1968 that was long enough to keep me out of The Grande Ballroom; thank God now that I think about it.

    • Herbie R Ficklestein says:

      Patrick Crouch
      Passionate generalist with focuses on food justice, urban agriculture, argoecology, regenerative design, and ecology
      Capuchin Soup Kitchen’s EarthWorks Urban FarmSalisbury University

      Has several links to his blog writing that center on Bioregion of Detroit..




      Great reads for those active in urban homesteading and local economy

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Gosh … are there still people who think permie doomie culture is going to save them when this blows up?



        • Herbie R Ficklestein says:

          Well, Fast Eddy, Patrick has been at it for a long time and at least is successful, so far, in bringing folks in the community together in a way to prepare for post peak oil. Looks like he hasn’t posted on his blog since 2015…maybe he’s doing it on another format.
          Remember some insightful articles on Detroit and it’s Economy he wrote concerning it’s dependence on the Automobile Industry.
          Had a very different perspective than traditional BAU models.

          Here is a short interview on the local news..
          Talks about his project…amazing…this is back over a decade again..


          I would say he is a very fortunate man in the life he has lived, regardless what happens after collapse😁

        • Xabier says:

          Agricultural/herding communities in collapse episodes – ie no strong state imposing general peace – have nearly always relied on substantial numbers of armed men – ideally every adult male a warrior of at least basic competence.

          That is the hard truth for back to the earth fantasists.

          No lethal force, no bread, veggies or sheep.

          In the Dark Ages in Europe, even monasteries relied on the service of knights who had seen the light, taken the cross and joined the community. Fighting bishops also existed, and so on.

      • hillcountry says:

        Yep, remember that gardening wave. He’s still Tweeting https://twitter.com/dirtysabot/with_replies

        here’s another man that made things happen in Chicago

        pretty typical for Detroit – people dream, things peter-out

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Urban farmer … meet:

          After a month or two, gangs started operating, destroying everything. Hospitals, for example, turned into slaughterhouses. There was no more police. About 80 percent of the hospital staff were gone. I got lucky. My family at the time was fairly large (15 people in a large house, six pistols, three AKs), and we survived (most of us, at least).


          Hahhahahahahahahaha….. teee heee heee heee teee heee…

          • Xabier says:

            ‘Urban farming’ sounds cool, but does seem to amount to saying ‘Come and cut my throat’.

            Only, they won’t be so merciful as that.

            The impulsive ultra-violent gang members don’t look far ahead, that’s not their nature, so they won’t nurture farmers as some like to think!

            They will kill, rape, consume, burn and move on.

        • Herbie R Ficklestein says:

          Thank you, Glad to see Patrick is still active and of course there is an ebb and flow to the channels of cross exchanges. The seed is planted and where it sprouts can be surprising.
          Yes, people dream and have a vision and it may or !at not take hold.But one must first have a dream. There are many other examples out there in addition to the above.
          The Human Spirit is rather persistent and makes turns on the fork of the road. Apparently, the path taken may be not the optimal one or does not reach the threshold of societal penetration for cultural transformation.
          Saw the Back to the Land Movement of the 70s that was replaced by the Permaculture Idea and now today others ideas are sprouting up by the youth….
          The vision that unfolds is difficult to determine. Throw it up in the winds of fate and see where it lands.
          Fast Eddy has a vision and clearly is firmly entrenched.
          That does not mean that is the ONLY one that will emerge out of this unprecedented age we find ourselves.
          Investor, author, Jim Rogers, in a recent interview chuckled at what to do in unprecedented times.
          Come now, he pointed out. Humans have always found themselves in unprecedented times, and this is no different.

          Have we learned?

    • Artleads says:

      The greatest tragedy in the world is to have material paradise like this–more so in its free and unmolested (neglected) state–and not know that’s what it is. So you just tear it all down. With such a dearth of cultural and aesthetic understanding, society has no choice but to implode.

  20. Yoshua says:

    Koko had a consept of her self as a gorilla…a flower…an animal…as nature.
    She had a concept of love… sorrow…time…and care.

    The message was edited by another monkey. But who am I to say that Koko didn’t understand these consepts? I’m just another monkey…a bad monkey.

    • Hubbs says:

    • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

      hey hey we’re the monkees.

    • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

      I am an apeman.

    • Tim Groves says:

      In man’s evolution he has created the cities and
      the motor traffic rumble, but give me half a chance
      and I’d be taking off my clothes and living in the jungle
      ‘Cos the only time that I feel at ease
      Is swinging up and down in a coconut tree
      Oh what a life of luxury to be like an ape man

      You guys are cooking with fire there!

  21. Mirror on the wall says:

    Church membership seems to be declining in USA. It was stable from 1940-2000 at around 70% of the population, and it has fallen steadily at about 1% per year year since 2000 to 47% today.

    The reasons are various, and no membership does not always imply unbelief. Youngsters are less likely to belong to any church.

    The question seems vague: “do you happen to be a member of a church?” could be interpreted as asking whether one was initiated as a child.

    Of course, those figures still look high from a European perspective.

    > U.S. Church Membership Falls Below Majority for First Time


  22. hillcountry says:

    I’ve been looking closer at the review paper by the Satoshi Omura group – ESPECIALLY THE FIRST TABLE OF STATISTICS https://pgibertie.files.wordpress.com/2021/03/74-1_44-95.pdf

    WHY DOES MEXICO HAVE SUCH A HIGH DEATH RATE? That large of a difference from other countries indicates something environmental. Food is the first thing I think of, so I went looking for their Vitamin A sugar-supplementation program and found this one for Zambia that reveals an interesting thing. There’s a 100x-range in sugar-samples and that is really odd. If that’s true elsewhere, it could be significant.

    Previous scrubbing of VA-literature has shown there’s a lot of concern in a few circles (Univ of Wisconsin – Madison) that VA-interventions are causing Hypervitaminosis-A in children and adults. Mexico reportedly is fortifying its sugar with VA but I’ve yet to read details of that program.

    Hypervitaminosis-A impacts the liver, and the liver is apparently very involved in Covid, given the studies one reads on a PubMed query.

    Here’s the Zambia study (also refers to Nicaraguan children). I’ll keep looking for the Mexico equivalent.


    “Using retinol isotope dilution to estimate total liver VA reserves, hypervitaminosis A (defined as ≥1.0 μmol retinol/g liver) was found in 59% of a cohort of rural Zambian children exposed to overlapping public health interventions (6, 10). Sugar fortification is government-mandated in Zambia with varying degrees of coverage (4, 5).”

    “Sugar samples contained 0.5– 55 mg retinol/kg with a median value of 8.8 mg/kg (5).”

    “Similarly, 1 y after implementation of VA-fortified sugar, Nicaraguan children exhibited hypervitaminotic liver VA reserves (11). In severe cases, toxic VA status results in hair loss, bone pathology, and abnormal hepatic stellate cells (9); however, the long-term health effects of chronic excessive VA intake before intoxication are not fully understood.”

    “These studies support the importance of monitoring VA status in populations exposed to food fortification with preformed VA as a public health measure to combat VAD [VA DEFICIENCY], and of considering the likelihood of inducing excessive VA stores.”

    So, I just wonder how well that monitoring is done in Mexico. Adding VA to sugar – what could possibly go wrong?

    • Tim Groves says:

      No one else is commenting on this so I’ll say a few words.

      The paper by the Satoshi Omura group is an excellent review of how the pandemic has developed so far without a hint of con-spir-acy theorizing. It is also a review of the trials done on Ivermectin and an understated appeal for governments everywhere to allow this proven life-saving medicineto be freely available for treating Covid-19 symptoms. As a bonus, it might get rid of the termites that infest so many people’s brains these days.

      As for vitamin A, it is looking more and more like this is not a proper vitamin but a poison that places a burden on the body in that it can’t be excreted and so it has to be immobilized and stored like industrial wast in dumpsites around the body, starting in the liver and including fat deposits everywhere. If we ingest it fast than it can be stored away, or if our storage capacity maxes out, we will suffer symptoms, including eczema, Crohn’s, Alzheimer, diabetes, infertility, etc.,depending on where the dreaded retinol or the even nastier retinolic acid strike.

      Adding extra vitamin A to everyone’s diet is another health measure beginning in the West post-WW2 and then spreading worldwide that MAY be a clandestine part of the effort to render more people infertile and reduce population growth while at the same time dumbing us down and making us lifetime customers for Big Pharma’s products. A was never in short supply in most people’s diets and in excessive amounts it is known to be poisonous. What the optimum dose is MAY turn out to be zero, but it is found naturally in most plant foods and in most animal foods too as a consequence of their eating plants. Fascinating subject!!

      Dump the A, I say, go heavy on the B3 and the C, and let’s not forget the rest of the alphabet including the D3, K2, and Q10.

      • I think it is the supplements of vitamin A that are a problem, not necessarily the vitamin A in food. For a lot of different nutrients, there seems to be an optimal level. Too low is a problem, and too high can also be a problem. If vitamin A from pills or government programs is added to normal vitamin A in food, this can easily lead to “too much.” Years ago, my dermatologist told me to stop taking a multivitamin, because it was raising my vitamin A level too high.

        In fact, the two-sided problem is true for weight/BMI as well, it is not just too high BMI that is a problem. People with too low BMI seems to catch secondary infections very easily, based on some academic articles I have read. As a result, they die from surgeries/ illnesses that would not kill other people.

  23. Tim Groves says:

    Panspermia, anybody?
    “Expect new infective viruses to emerge in the ensuing months”—we warned you, we warned you!

    From Jiangwen Qu and N.Chandra Wickramasinghe, published in MedCom, 23 July 2020


    “Our previous studies have pointed out that sunspot extremes or +/‐1 year is an important risk factor for the occurrence of new viral infectious diseases. Sunspot numbers are related to solar activity. During solar maximum the sun produces high‐energy and low‐energy solar particles by a process of mass ejections from the sun’s surface and solar flares. When the sun is least active, the solar magnetic field gets weaker and there will be more galactic cosmic rays entering the earth. We discussed in an earlier paper that the present time 2019–2020 is characterized by very low sunspot numbers and we are in a solar minimum that is the lowest in over 100 years. Ionizing radiation (cosmic rays) which peak at this time can cause virus mutation as well as genetic recombination, particularly if viruses are included in a biosphere extending even beyond the tropopause. In order to verify the correctness of this theory we issued an early warning in a letter to Current Science published in November 2019. Here we explicitly reminded the world that new infective viruses are likely to emerge in the ensuing months from mutations and/or ingress and that public health authorities must be vigilant and take necessary action. The emergence of the COVID‐19 outbreak uncannily confirms the accuracy of our early warning and highlights the urgency of taking appropriate precautions for future safety without further prevarication.”

    *Here’s the letter in question:

    “Space weather and pandemic warnings? Medical science is not accustomed to turning to the skies for warnings of pan-demics although this is precisely what our distant ancestors throughout history were prone to do. The Sun clearly plays an important role in all aspects of our lives. For instance, there have been many claims that the occurrence of pandemic influenza and other viral outbreaks is correlated with the well-known 11-year sunspot cycle although the precise mechanism for such a causative connection had remained unclear. Now, with space exploration and continuous monitoring of ‘space weather’, it is evident that the Earth’s magnetosphere, and the interpla-netary magnetic field in its vicinity, are modulated by the solar wind that in turn controls the flow of charged particles onto the Earth. During times of sunspot minima, particularly deep sunspot mini-ma, a general weakening of magnetic field occurs which would be accompa-nied by an increase in the flux of cosmic rays (GCRs) and also of electrically charged interstellar and interplanetary dust particles. As there is growing evi-dence to suggest that the latter include biological entities, an increase in their incidence on the Earth is therefore to be expected at such times. Not only CR-induced mutation events, but recombina-tion events involving novel virion strains, would be the expected outcome of which we should be aware. The next minimum between the current cycle 24 and cycle 25 was predicted to occur between July 2019 and September 2020 (Figure 1). Perhaps, we have now approached the deepest sunspot minimum for a century, with more ‘spotless’ days per week than in previous minima. On the basis of this data, there appears to be a prima facie case for expecting new viral strains to emerge over the coming months and so it would be prudent for Public Health Authorities the world over to be vigilant and prepared for any necessary action. We need hardly to be reminded that the spectre of the 1918 devastating influenza pandemic stares us in the face from across a century.”

    • Interesting potential connection. Seems strange!

      The article starts out:

      Since the 1950s, new infectious diseases have been emerging all over the planet, with serious repercussions on human health, global politics and the world economy. So far, more than 40 kinds of new infectious diseases have been found in the world, most of which are of viral origin.1 The occurrence of new viral infectious diseases often has the manifestation of strong contagion, rapid transmission, wide epidemic scope, high mortality. They are often difficult to predict or prevent, and can easily develop into serious public health emergencies causing grave international concern. However, despite all the advances in medical science and molecular biology, the scientific community still lacks sufficient understanding of the causes of the sudden emergence of new viral diseases, including relevant environmental and epidemiological factors that could be at work.

      At the present time, our ability to detect new pathogens before they lead to epidemic or pandemic disease is still woefully inadequate.

      • I notice this paper says,

        More significantly, in our view, during solar minimum, new viruses, bacteria and other microscopic biological entities can penetrate the interplanetary magnetic field barrier and reach the stratosphere. Descent of such particles to ground level by means of gravitational settling might take months or years depending on size. The final descent phase through the troposphere would be mostly controlled by meteorological events. It is also of interest to note that the first descent of viral-sized particles deposited in the stratosphere will occur at places where the stratosphere is thinnest; and by this argument populated areas of China lying eastward of the Himalayan mountain range would present the best candidates. It is therefore not surprising to find that first strikes of new or renewed viral diseases are often recorded in China. We should however stress that not every minimum in the sunspot cycle would be associated with a new epidemic or new pathogen.

        If the sunspot minimum disrupts the weather, it would seem like this could have an impact as well. Weather disturbances like increased flooding in China disrupt food production. If citizens are not eating as well, they tend to catch illnesses that are going around more easily.

  24. Yoshua says:

    Famous last words from Koko.

    A gorilla who learned sign language left this last message to humanity before she passed away.


    • Fast Eddy says:

      Man Stooopid. Yep.

      Kill man. Exterminate Man. Man Cancer. Man Destroy. Man Evil. Kill man

      Ooga booga.

    • Bei Dawei says:

      I am impressed that a gorilla was somehow able to educate herself about anthropogenic climate change / the “sixth extinction,” let alone conceive of an abstract concept like “nature.” More over, Ishmael! (Daniel Quinn reference)

      • Kowalainen says:

        No education needed. Just observe the rapacious primate shenanigans. Our reliance on “education” is yet another obnoxious self important humanoid chauvinism. Halfwit dullards reading books won’t change the fact.

        How about this:

        READ LESS


        THINK MORE

        I know it’s not cool, as we all know, ignorance is bliss for


        Self obsessed with



    • Alex says:

      Koko is dead, long live Greta!

      By the way, there is a very good reason why the video is heavily edited.

  25. Kowalainen says:

    And here comes captain blindingly obvious flying into the picture…

    “”What is sleep doing for animals?” asks Sidarta Ribeiro, a coauthor on the paper and the director of the Brain Institute at the Federal University of Rio Grande do Norte.”

    Well, Sidarta, you see, it is simple really. It is a consistency check of the long term memory. Imagine if a gazelle suddenly forgets that a lion is dangerous. Or that thirst indicate that drinking would be wise. Biological brains is a bit unreliable with cells dying constantly, others get repurposed for participating in other signaling patterns. It is safe to assume that this survival tactic evolved early for animals.

    Only humans do blatantly dangerous shit without regard for the conserves because curiosity and thrills is preferable to the mundanities off raw survival. After all, our tree dwelling ancestors is known for hanging in the branches staring back at the free fall into oblivion. These days most of us use ropes to simulate the feeling of being embraced by the velvet of oblivion.

    Where do I get to pick up my Nobel? 🥇

    Nah, on second thought I don’t need pomp and regalia.
    Simple minds – simple attire.



  26. Dennis L. says:

    More Covid:

    1. Lex Fridman, Podcast #146, Michael Mina, well worth watching, yes it is two hours, actual tests referred to in 2 are done around 45 minutes in.

    2. From Wikipedia:
    Mina claims that although the COVID PCR test is ideal for clinical testing, the paper tests (also known as “antigen tests” or “lateral flow tests” or “rapid tests”) are superior to PCR tests for halting the pandemic because they are cheaper (about $1 to $5), faster (typically 15 minutes),[6] can be done at home, and can be anonymous (no reporting to government agencies). The paper tests’ lower sensitivity makes them superior (for halting pandemics, not for clinical use) because they are positive mostly only when one is contagious whereas the PCR tests are typically positive for weeks after one is no longer contagious.[3]

    Mina received an NIH grant in 2019 to study how to detect and control novel pathogens (project runs from 2019 to 2024).[7] Dr. Mina’s lab conducts research related to vaccines, serology (antibody and antigen tests), infectious models and immunity.[4]

    In the Podcast, Mina claims the US government purchased 150M of the Abbott tests at $5/test.

    The machines to make the tests are manufactured in Korea and Taiwan, correlation perhaps with success in dealing with Covid?

    Basically, two people can share the test going into a restaurant, if test is negative, both are negative, is positive one or both are positive. Means with a high degree of safety, restaurants could open normally. Who could object?

    Dennis L.

    • Kowalainen says:

      Yup, you’ll soon have a device like that at home. Spit on the paper and stick it into the machine.

      But first the cessation of the usual hex of rapacious primates. How mind numbingly dullard does it have to become before the obvious hits home like a lightning strike of lucidity.

      Here’s a conversation in sniffed out from the fabric of space and time being equipped with a moron thing called thinking.

      Alien 1: Look; they are competing in frippery, vanity, prestige and status causing grief and suffering
      Alien 2: Kill em all, it’s the only way to be sure
      Alien 3: Kills alien 1 and 2 for stating the blatantly obvious about the shenanigans of rapacious primates
      Alien 3: What did you expect? You halfwit muppets. Leave this to the masters. Now be gone.


    • VFatalis says:

      Big Pharma, obviously. PCR tests are needed to generate false positives. False positives are needed to scare the population and justify coercitive measures. Fear is needed to push the sheeps to the slaughterhouse.

  27. hillcountry says:

    Not just for Covid and heartworms anymore?


    Ivermectin bound with the extracellular domain of EGFR, which inhibited the activation of EGFR and its downstream signaling cascade ERK/Akt/NF-κB. The inhibition of the transcriptional factor NF-κB led to the reduced P-gp transcription.

    Conclusions: These findings demonstrated that ivermectin significantly enhanced the anti-cancer efficacy of chemotherapeutic drugs to tumor cells, especially in the drug-resistant cells. Thus, ivermectin, a FDA-approved antiparasitic drug, could potentially be used in combination with chemotherapeutic agents to treat cancers and in particular, the drug-resistant cancers.

  28. James says:

    This is an interesting paper regarding covert population control from 2016, long before SARS-COV-2.


    “To be able to periodically vaccinate billions, the military-industrial complex has been tasked to develop and release dangerous viruses into select populations so the World Health Organization (WHO) can then declare an epidemic or pandemic and engage its newest instrument of global coercion called “public health emergency of international concern” (PHEIC) while big pharma dutifully brings out yet another vaccine carrying the latest sterility and morbidity causing technology. Under the pretext of protecting public health and stopping the spread of the infection, the population is then mass vaccinated and temporarily or permanently sterilized. If and when needed, the same methodology of mass vaccination is applied to weaken the immune system so as to increase morbidity and mortality to achieve parity between births and deaths as and when needed, which is the formula for population stabilization [19].”

    • Tim Groves says:

      Good find! This paper states facts that won’t come as a shock to many OFWers.

      “Since 1945, the international order rests on the willingness and ability of nation states, aided by the UN system, to subvert fertility and promote morbidity, as needed, through covert chemical and biological means that limit births and increase deaths so as to bring them into equilibrium and thus stabilize the population. It also rests on the ability and willingness of nations to keep families few and small by delaying family formation, childbearing and entry into the workforce through underhanded legal, psychosocial and economic means for the sake of stopping population growth.”

      “Heads of state and government the world over have made a cold and calculated decision to sacrifice their people’s fundamental rights and basic health as well as rob them of the joy of parenthood for the sake of national prosperity and international peace. Enforced by mutual coercion mutually agreed upon this secret accommodation replaced periodic conventional war between nations with constant unconventional war within nations, directed not at life and property but at fertility and longevity, to prevent nuclear confrontation, preserve natural resources for future generations and protect the environment from human destruction, but has exacted an equally high price from the health of individuals and society by annihilating fundamental rights and liberties, shredding the social contract and utterly perverting the rule of law, turning medicine and public health as well as the administration of justice into handmaidens of genocide and coconspirators in crimes against humanity and bringing human civilization and human populations to the brink of collapse.”

    • Azure Kingfisher says:

      Wow. Quite a find, James.

      “In the developed world, which has reached that last stage of the demographic transition and where the onus of the depopulation effort is on shortening life, the flu vaccine is the primary morbidity causing instrument through intrinsic pathways, which is why retired people in state institutions are routinely administered this vaccine and why all public servants across the developed world have to accept inoculation as a condition of employment. Public servants and the old represent the greatest cost and threat to national budgets and policy makers will not allow the dependency burden of the old to double from now until 2050 and reach a crushing 60%, as would happen absent drastic intervention [26]. By prematurely killing its public servants and the baby boom generation governments solve the problem of underfunded pension plans and crushing social entitlements.”

      Table 5: the tragedy to come

      “Two out of four women worldwide will be infertile by 2050 and three out of four by 2100.

      “Two billion genetic lines will be terminated by 2050 and four billion by 2100.

      “The IQ will be lowered worldwide from an average of circa 90 today to an average of 70 by 2050 and 50 by 2100 and mental retardation will be the norm rather than the exception.

      “Half the population will be sexually confused.

      “Half the world’s children will suffer from developmental disorders.

      “Nine out of ten people worldwide will have severely damaged endocrine systems resulting in chronic illness in at least three quarters of the population.

      “Life expectancy will sink from an average of 70 years today to 60 years by 2050 and 50 years by 2100.

      “Nine out of ten males worldwide will have useless sperm.

      “Hardly anyone alive a century from now will have the intellectual capacity necessary to grasp the immediate reality let alone the historical damage done by the Global Depopulation Policy.

      “What has taken Nature and God eons of evolution to perfect, man will have destroyed in just two centuries.”

      • Fast Eddy says:

        mental retardation will be the norm rather than the exception.

        “Hardly anyone alive a century from now will have the intellectual capacity necessary to grasp the immediate reality let alone the historical damage done by the Global Depopulation Policy.

        Nah… we are already there

    • This paper is very strange. It is talking about practices that it alleges are already going on, which need to be brought out into the open/gotten rid of, “to restore the rule of law.”

      Things like feeding artificial sweeteners to the population are listed in this paper.

    • Quite frank, I would never cite this article. I have little confidence in what it has to say.

      The article is written by one person:

      Kevin Galalae
      Founder and Director
      Center of Global Consciousness
      Ayr, Ontario, Canada

      This is hardly a well known academic institution. The endnotes to the article includes 13 references to other things that Kevin Galalae has published. These references have been published by his own organization or by “Progressive Press.”

      A lot of what he says is basically ridiculous. I have a hard time believing that a publisher would publish it.

      For example, in the “Background” section he says,

      Since 1945, the international order rests on the willingness and ability of nation states, aided by the UN system, to subvert fertility and promote morbidity, as needed, through covert chemical and biological means that limit births and increase deaths so as to bring them into equilibrium and thus stabilize the population. It also rests on the ability and willingness of nations to keep families few and small by delaying family formation, childbearing and entry into the workforce through underhanded legal, psychosocial and economic means for the sake of stopping population growth [2].

      Heads of state and government the world over have made a cold and calculated decision to sacrifice their people’s fundamental rights and basic health as well as rob them of the joy of parenthood for the sake of national prosperity and international peace.

      In the Discussion Session he says,

      Unable to overcome these structural obstacles [lack of birth control methods, lack of support from Roman Catholic Church] policy makers pursued population control by the only remaining alternative, namely through secret chemical methods and began subverting fertility first through water fluoridation and fluoride supplements and later also through salt and milk fluoridation and the direct application of fluoride veneers on teeth by dentists and along the decades with the help of dozens of endocrine disruptors deliberately inserted in food, water, beverages, dental and cosmetic products to prevent the moment of conception [5].

      Of course, this section is again referenced back only to his own writings. It goes on with more and more “stuff” such as the use of artificial sweeteners. A paper doesn’t need to be good to be published.

      I find this article as well: Junk science under spotlight after controversial firm buys Canadian journals>

      Researchers are coming forward with examples of junk science distributed by an international company that now has ties to respectable Canadian journals.

      OMICS Group Inc., an online publishing firm headquartered in India, has been accused of duping academics and publishing bogus research with little to no vetting by experts in the field.

      A CTV News/Toronto Star investigation found that OMICS purchased two Canadian companies, Andrew John Publishing and Pulsus Group, which have been publishing a number of respected medical journals in fields like cardiology, pathology and optometry.

      One of the hundreds of journals that appear online under the OMICS banner is called Epidemiology: Open Access. In March, it published a “review article” titled “Turning Nature Against Man: The Role of Pandemics, Vaccines and Genetics in the UN’s Plan to Halt Population Growth.”

      The author is listed as Kevin Galalae, “founder and director of Center of Global Consciousness” from Ayr, Ont. No other credentials for him are listed.

      The paper’s rambling abstract claims that the United Nations and governments around the world are adopting a “new strategy of population control” that includes “chemically-induced sterility and morbidity.”

      The article’s conclusion? “All epidemics and pandemics of the past 30 years are fabrications of the UN system and its partners in crime.”

    • JMS says:

      I don’t know what to think of this essay. Some of its statements seem plausible, others do not make much sense. For example, it suggests that with the invention of nuclear weapons, war can no longer be used as a means of controlling the population. But war has never been of any use as a means of demographic control, as demonstrated by the fact that the most deadly war in history did not prevent the world population from increasing between 1940 and 1945 from 2.3 B to 2.5 B…

      And if population control has been a concern since 1945, how is it that the planners have failed so miserably in that supposed aim? (world pop. in 1945, 2.5 B. World pop. now. 7,8 B….)
      Aldo, if there was an intention to control the increase in population, how do you explain the “green revolution”, and the fact that developed countries have been sending food to Africa for fifty years, instead of contraceptive methods?

  29. MG says:

    The first bridge on the Slovak motorways needs to be demolished and rebuilt:


    There is a psychological drama from the 80s taking place in this part of the cold and mountainous area in the northern Slovakia which includes a central theme of meeting the construction deadlines of the motorway and low quality concrete of a bridge. What a. prophetic coincidence!


    • Ed says:

      Concrete and rebar turn to crap with winter, salt and water. Visit NYC is all rotted and is being replaced. It is a continuous never ending process.

  30. Ed says:

    Are we still at 1 in 1000 of population dying of CV19? Regardless of all the noise. If so, how are they keeping the lie going?

    • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

      now 3 million supposed covid related deaths.

      more like 1 in 2500.


      about every 15 days, the world population grows by 3 million.

      from memory, 16×16=256 and 17×17=289 and 18×18=324 and 19×19=361 and 21×21=441 and 22×22=484 and 25×25=625.

      my point is that very few persons even know this simple math.

      the math of covid makes NO impression on the vast majority of the masses.

      but OMG 3 MILLION people have DIED!

    • Tim Groves says:

      The scare story works because it’s scary at the individual’s level. It has an enormous emotional appeal. The numbers add up to nothing in many or most people’s minds. They hear that there is a very dangerous very contagious disease abroad that might kill them or that they might pass on to others and in that way they might inadvertently kill grandma. The pros and cons are lost on them. Preventive action must be taken. Something must be done. They know that. The masks, the social distancing, the lockdowns, the vaccines are presented as something; therefore they must do these things. The details are irrelevant. The numbers add up to nothing. Present most people with evidence that goes against the narrative and even if they don’t say it, they are probably thinking, “Don’t cloud the issue with facts!”

  31. Gail,

    The nCV-19 viral pandemic is complicated, mostly because we have examined this virus at the genetic and molecular levels almost more than any other viral pathogen in the same time period, had commentary opinions by almost everyone qualified or not, but nCV-19 is certainly not more complicated to any comparative extraordinary level than all past viral pandemics – including those long before vaccines and even antibiotics – to treat associated/related and often more deadly co-bacterial infections that come with SARS type viral infections.

    I suggest you review the viral pandemics over past hundred years including the Spanish Flu and the Hong Kong Flu. Most of which had significant decline by the end of the second year – just as this nCV-19 pandemic is doing – now in first/longer infected countries. Those past recorded viral pandemics were effectively lost into the background of countless pathogenic virus pathogen background that humans are now (herd) immuned to and ordinarily live under without pandemic threat – by the third or fourth years – with no vaccines. This is generally true even with the possibility of their mutations.

    Examining the details of past pandemics should give you a better understanding of herd immunity and why your assumptions and conclusions regarding nCV-19 are in all probability – mostly erroneous. We will reach herd immunity with or without a vaccine by the end of this year, at very worst – next year. All past pandemics that we have significant detail about have proved this. Primarily because – we are still here in spite of them. These past viral pandemics histories need to be our expectations in the worst case. In the best, case the vaccines will hasten lower infection rates in countries where high levels of vaccination are achieved. However, scientific ignorance, pure laziness, and superstition – used as tools by those with for-profit self-interest agendas will always have dangerous and slowing effect for vaccines – the worst of which has been politicians and the clik bait media of both left and right.

    Hang in there, this the nCV-19 pandemic will pass, too. After verifiable factual knowledge, patience and endurance will get us through.

    • I am doubtful about your statements about the past viral pandemics. We have a new version of influenza every year. It doesn’t go away.

      Polio is caused by a virus. In spite of all of our vaccine efforts, it hasn’t completely gone away. The site, History of Vaccines, says “It is likely that polio has plagued humans for thousands of years. An Egyptian carving from around 1400 BCE depicts a young man with a leg deformity similar to one caused by polio.”

      Measles is caused by a virus. The same History of Vaccines site says that measles made its appearance between the 11th and 12th century, when it jumped from a similar illness in cattle. People could spread it before they came down with symptoms, so it was hard to stop. Sound familiar?

      Colds are caused by viruses. They come around pretty much every year.

      Tuberculosis is caused by bacteria. It doesn’t go away.

      Malaria is caused by the plasmodium parasite. It doesn’t go away.

      Pandemics seem to become a problem when the health of a substantial share of the population goes downhill, making them especially susceptible to viruses.

      The thing that makes a population susceptible to epidemics is the kind of problem we are encountering today, too many people relative to resources. Many people don’t eat well, at least in part because their incomes are too low to afford a good diet. Many people don’t sleep well, partly because they are trying to work night and day. In recent years, we have added the problem of a substantial population of people over age 80, many of the living together nursing homes and other homes for the aged.

      Maybe COVID-19 will go away on its own, apart from vaccination efforts. We can hope so. But I don’t think we have very much proof that we can expect this to necessarily happen.

  32. Breaking: coup alert in Minsk.

    Biden ordered to kill Lukashenko, FSB and Putin saved him.

    Russian FSB detains two individuals plotting coup in Belarus, assassination of Lukashenko. The coup was scheduled for May 9 during the Victory Day Parade in Minsk.

    Lukashenko says Putin-Biden talked about alleged US-led assassination plot

    MINSK, April 17. /TASS/. Russian President Vladimir Putin focused on the issue of an assassination attempt on Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko prepared by US intelligence agencies in a call with US President Joe Biden, Lukashenko said aired by the ONT television channel on Saturday.

    “Another thing that surprises me is why Americans behave like this. Remember that no one except the top political leadership can set the task of getting rid of a president. Only them, not the special services,” Lukashenko said.

    “I’ll tell you more. I am grateful to Putin. When he was talking with Biden, he asked him this question. Gurgling and no answer. Vladimir Vladimirovich [Putin] called me and told me about this when I arrived from Azerbaijan,” he added.

    Today Lukashenka called the head of the FSB. He said that he would soon make the most important statement in 25 years of his presidency. Most likely, he realized that the games were over.

    The whole country is awaiting Putin’s statement on April 21. So already on April 22, an emergency meeting of the Security Council of the Russian Federation is scheduled, we assume the entry of Donbas and, possibly, Belarus, into Russia.

    For my two cents, it seems that WW3 is certain now,.

    Probability: 90-95%

    Macron plans to hold talks with Putin soon – Elysee Palace. Expect many more sanctions(financial, swift, credit cards, sec market for debts and ns2). And a big false flag.

    Ending of diplomatic relations.

    • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

      many thanks for that report.

      “When he was talking with Biden, he asked him this question. Gurgling and no answer.”

      that is 100% believable.

      • Kowalainen says:

        Why can’t this conversation be “leaked”?

        No wait, don’t. I honestly don’t want the cringes from listening to the sad old man bumbling.

    • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

      of course this assassination “plot” could be a false flag staged by the Russians, but not likely, since this has all the markings of round 2 of the Obama administration instigated illegal 2014 coup in Ukraine.

      WW3 probability remains at 0.01 to 0.02 %.

      but yes there should be lots of US shenanigans in the coming months, and very possibly a US false flag operation.

      without specific info otherwise, I won’t fault Joke Biden here, since he knows that he is declining mentally and my guess is that he just okays anything put before him by his “advisors”.

      I think that’s what a mentally declining president would do. Not trust his own personal foggy opinion but go along with what younger “clearer thinking” persons are telling him.

      • jj says:

        40,000 NATO troops on one side of a line on a map and 80,000 russian on the other side all with the latest toys.

        What could go wrong?

        If those Nato troops are in the donbass and putin calls it russian dirt on the 22nd it might cause a teensy weensy problem.

        Let us pray you are right. No diferent than the korean DMZ i guess. Weve some how kept that cold.

        It will be better once they place the mines like the DMZ. Mines help the line be clearly defined.

        Were the 2014 events the work of sane compassionate humans?

        After all the events of the last year show we are in a reasonable sane and compassionate world and therefore WWIII is improbable.

    • jj says:

      Wow! I had thought the situation deescalated with the cancellation of the two US warships entry into the black sea.

      Guess I am not immune to hope shaping my world view.

      The NATO troop build up of 40,000 as reported in tass is far in excess of a “exercise”.

      If putin does indeed bring in belarus and donbass it will get very interesting and not in a good way.

      Lets hope gurgle master just quietly makes a gollum noise. I know he reads this blog. smily face gif. keep us out of war and ill give you three hip hip hurrays!

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Devil Covid + Starvation + NUCLEAR WAR x Spent Fuel Ponds… = CEP?

        • Kowalainen says:

          The Fast Eddy Plan (FEP), or perhaps,


          The cessation of all higher life on earth.

          Why? Who knows. It isn’t perfect perhaps? Or perhaps it is imperfect in its perfections? Could it be that it is neither perfect, nor imperfect.

          Perhaps stuff that just is contradicts delusions of perfection. Or is it that perfections contradicts shit that exist without causes?

          Many questions, few answers. As it should be. Therefore it must prevail through extermination. Or is it that extermination can’t prevail without questions.


          • Life is extremely resilient. I don’t expect this to happen in the foreseeable future.

            • Kowalainen says:

              A massive nova or flare on the sun would make earth as sterile as Mars.

              It is as resilient as the planetary system allows it to be.

            • Right! It is changes in the planetary system, particularly the sun, that are likely to make a big difference in the ability of the earth to support life.

    • Tim Groves says:

      Yes, thanks for this. I agree with David that it has a ring of credibility about it.

      However, on the probability of WW3, it depends on what we mean by WW3. Arguably, WW3 is going on already but it hasn’t been announced yet. The armies of the big powers are not yet shooting at each other and bombs are not yet flying. But if it goes nuclear, it may be over before they have time to announce it.

      Also, David, I know I sound like a broken record, or as the Japanese say, like an endless tape, but the guy playing Biden is merely an actor, a puppet, a cat’s paw, a marionette…. I would say that Joke Biden is playing a man who is declining mentally and doing that quite convincingly, but the reason why he just okays anything put before him by his “advisors” is because they are his “controllers”. What a great excuse these people will have for the mess they make. “The guy in charge wasn’t in for a single meal, but we had to obey his orders.”

      • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

        okay yes and no maybe.

        he’s been around some other Senators etc for 40 or 50 years and it seems they know each other, you can’t fayke those long relationships so I think it’s really him.

        but everyone, starting with him himself and all those who “work” with him, surely know that a worse than typical usual late 70s mental decline is proceeding.

        the POTUS is definitely in control mode.

        Puppet Of The United States.

    • I don’t know whether this has anything to do with anything, but the WSJ is reporting

      Russia to Expel 10 U.S. Diplomats From Embassy in Moscow
      “The move is a response to U.S. measures against Moscow over alleged election interference, cyberattacks and other damaging actions”

      It is clear US-Russia relations aren’t getting better.

  33. You want to put this in your body? It’s ok though, we have a gene technology regulator!

  34. SARS-CoV-2 spike protein expressing epithelial cells promotes senescence associated secretory phenotype in endothelial cells and increased inflammatory response

    Increased mortality in COVID-19 often associates with thrombotic and microvascular complications. We have recently shown that SARS-CoV-2 spike protein promotes inflammatory cytokine IL-6/IL-6R induced trans-signaling responses which modulate MCP-1 expression in human endothelial cells. MCP-1 is secreted as a major component of the senescence associated secretory phenotype (SASP). Virus infected or Spike transfected human pulmonary epithelial cells (A549) exhibited an increase in senescence related marker proteins. TMNK; as a representative human endothelial cell line, when exposed to cell culture supernatant derived from A549 cells expressing SARS-CoV-2 spike protein (Spike CM) exhibited a senescence phenotype with enhanced p16, p21, and SA-β-galactosidase expression. Inhibition of IL-6 trans-signaling by Tocilizumab, prior to exposure of supernatant to endothelial cells, inhibited p16 and p21 induction. Likewise, inhibition of receptor signaling by Zanabrutinib or Brd4 function by AZD5153 also led to limited induction of p16 expression. Senescence lead to an enhanced level of adhesion molecule, ICAM-1 and VCAM-1 in human endothelial cells, and TPH1 attachment by in vitro assay. Inhibition of senescence or SASP function prevented ICAM/VCAM expression and leukocyte attachment. We also observed an increase in oxidative stress in A549 spike transfected and endothelial cells exposed to Spike CM. ROS generation in TMNK was reduced after treatment with the IL-6 specific inhibitor Tociliximab, and with the specific inhibitors Zanabrutinib and AZD5153. Taken together, we identified that the exposure of human endothelial cells to cell culture supernatant derived from SARS-CoV-2 spike protein expression displayed cellular senescence markers leading to enhanced leukocyte adhesion with coronary blockade potential.

    • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

      “… with coronary blockade potential.”

      I don’t see it there, but is this applying to the virus AND the vaccines?

      it seems obvious that the vaccines cause blood clots.

    • hillcountry says:

      On that inhibition of IL-6 subject

      Results: Ivermectin improved mouse survival rate induced by a lethal dose of LPS. In addition, ivermectin significantly decreased the production of TNF-alpha, IL-1ss and IL-6 in vivo and in vitro. Furthermore, ivermectin suppressed NF-kB translocation induced by LPS.

      Conclusions: The results indicate that ivermectin may inhibit LPS-induced production of inflammatory cytokines by blocking NF-kB pathway and improve LPS-induced survival in mice. This finding might provide a new strategy for the treatment of endotoxemia and associated inflammation.

  35. The brown shirt police holding down the special needs kids to administer a solution makes this uncomfortable to watch.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Funny how the re ta r ds are the only wise ones… really really like how the CovIDIOTS clap and give the thumbs up after they lethally inject…

      Who would have thought the End of the World would be so… entertaining!!!

      Stooop id f789ing humans… no wonder the Elders refer to them as cattle…

      More like cockroaches… or rats… although I suppose the reason they don’t go that far is that they are able to farm the cattle… rats and roaches don’t produce much of value

    • Fast Eddy says:

      This is what I think of the human race


    • Xabier says:

      Horrible, truly horrible!

      One would kill those ‘vaccinators’ without hesitation or compunction – they are clearly inflicting great distress on that poor innocent person.

      May the ‘very rare’ blood clots get them, one day soon! They richly merit it.

  36. The FT lets the cat out of the bag: “There is an opportunity here to use the Covid-19 pass as a building block for a digital infrastructure that could service public needs well beyond the pandemic – for example in banking, education or public health…”

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Somehow I don’t think that’s the plan … because they wouldn’t be so blatant about it…

      And that sort of plan would require lots and lots of cheap to produce oil….

      That sort of story is just thrown out their to take the dumber hounds off of the real trail…

      There will be no ‘digitized future’ or ‘great reset’ … that is just plain nonsense

    • Artleads says:

      A great deal of that is already in place. How securely, I’m not sure.

  37. If you are healthy and refuse to take the vaccine, you are a free-rider

    The recommendation by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Food and Drug Administration to pause use of the Johnson & Johnson coronavirus vaccine — citing six women who developed serious blood clots in their brains after vaccination — could hardly have come at a worse time.

    This news arrived just as vaccination eligibility was opening up and a whole new tranche of people were making the decision to either get or refuse the stick of a needle. Nearly half the eligible population has received at least one injection. Uptake is still limited by vaccine supply in many places. But as public health authorities try to reach the country’s second half — or at least enough to reach herd immunity — they will eventually be recruiting along a descending path of public enthusiasm. And any news that heightens the impression of risk makes their task harder.

    As someone who received the Pfizer vaccine, it is easy for me to say that fears about the Johnson & Johnson version are exaggerated. But they are exaggerated. Your chances of getting this side effect are literally one in a million. The CDC’s and FDA’s seriousness about screening for even a minuscule level of risk should encourage confidence in the overall vaccination system. And the vast majority of shots in American arms have been with the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines, which have not displayed this side effect. There really is no cause for public panic.

    It is the “almost” that creates problems. Taking these vaccines involves the chance of a temporary fever, headaches and muscle aches. It involves a very remote risk of more serious complications. And this raises the unavoidable problem of free riders.

    Free riders are people who benefit from the public good but don’t have to pay or sacrifice for it. In the case of a pandemic, free riders are those who enjoy the positive result when other people get vaccinated — lower transmission of the virus and eventual herd protection — but refuse to take a tiny risk and get vaccinated themselves. The challenge comes, of course, when lots of people realize they can be free riders, and the public good is destroyed.

    • jj says:

      Perhaps a new game show like family feud? Adenovirus VAX team vs team MRNA.

      Think of the possibilities!

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Oh.. a free rider am I? I thought I was just being a difficult prick… for the fun of it.

      Look… everyone should do their part in making sure Devil Covid has full opportunity to breed… so everyone should get at least one vax shot… it’s what is best for all of us

      Thank you Duncnorm for getting the shot… that’s the spirit!

    • Robert Firth says:

      What part of “informed consent” does the Washington Post not understand? And how can there be informed consent from people who have been given no trustworthy information? Dr Josef Mengele is more and more seeming to be a great visionary ahead of his time.

      • Artleads says:

        That kind of status quo could be consistent with a society that had long been tranquillized into slumber. Then as limits hit, they awaken. And the first thing they hear is the prescription (from “experts” and “authority” they remember as trustworthy-enough before they were anesthetized) to get vaccinated. A global impasse ripe for manipulation.

        • Xabier says:

          Yes, Artleads, we were largely tranquillized by prosperity and social media, and in consequence suckers for the reassurance offered by Big Pharma.

  38. Yoshua says:

    The Brazilian P.1 variant is 2.5 times more infectious than the original strain and it has now mutated again and made the same mutation as the South African variant which avoids our antibodies and makes the vaccines less effective.


  39. Oops Sorry!

    Man accidentally gets one Moderna and one Pfizer COVID vaccine

    A mix-up led this man to get a vaccine combo pack.

    While getting his second COVID-19 vaccine dose on Tuesday, a New Hampshire man accidentally received the Pfizer jab, despite his first dose having been from Moderna. Despite the unfortunate mishap, officials say he’ll be just fine, with no further shots needed for now.

    “He said, ‘You ready for a poke?’ I said, ‘Sure,’ and he poked me,” New Hampshire resident Craig Richards told Manchester’s WMUR News 9 of the experience returning for his second vaccine dose this week at the same location where he’d gotten his first. “As soon as he poked me, he looked down at my card, and I think he realized he just gave me the Pfizer.”

    Richards then pointed out the error.

    “I looked at him and said, ‘You did not just give me the wrong shot.’ And he bolted!” Richards said. While the man may have panicked in response to realizing his mistake, Richards believes he also may have just been reacting to getting the stink eye.

    “I don’t know if I had a real angry face on,” he said.

    Shortly thereafter, the man’s supervisor approached Richards to discuss what had happened and to reassure him that, despite the error, all would be well.

    “ ‘You’re going to be fine. The good news is, you are fully vaccinated,’ ” Richards said the supervisor told him. Still, he remained upset and concerned.

    “I’m just, like, ‘This isn’t happening,’ ” he said of his response.

    • jj says:

      Dont be silly! If it fits in a syringe its good for you! Cmon man!

    • jj says:

      If this has happened more than once how many recipients even know that their are two different VAX types with totally different operating mechanisms and discern that SOP was violated? The nomenclature “the covid shot” seems quite prevalent

  40. jj says:

    I feel sorry for some of the doctors. This has been a real slippery slope. With a “standard of care” legal malpractice hanging over every one of them it has resulted in doctors becoming hyper aware of what the status quo is for treatment and not deviating from it. So this thing comes along and all the “authorities” are pushing the VAX thats not a VAX and the doctors have been conditioned to implement status quo solutions. Now the truth is coming . Vitamins. Ivermectin. Healthy immune bodies. The violation of basic human rights and informed consent that experimentation with gene therapy substances constitutes.

    It leaves doctors that followed their conditioning in a very hard place. Sure they could go rogue and tell the truth. What happens to their reputation then? Not only are they ostracized by big brother INC but patients ask what happened to your oath to do no harm? So most doctors will IMO double down insisting that the dangerous experimental gene therapy is the bestest ever rather than flip burgers. Its a total ego power trap. Yes saving the world from the most deadly pathogen ever created in a weapons lab whoops i mean arising spontaneously from pangolin bat love. ( i doubt all fear porn now). They didnt plan on this fate. It didnt happen when faced with one big moral decision. Its a slow erosion. Check the covid box on a death certificate for a extra $3k. After all if you dont know the correct billing codes as a medical provider you are out of business. All part of the game.

    Then the game leads to a outcome that violates all of the noble motives that inspired you to the medical calling in the first place. They got played.

    Hard choice. Total ego fulfillment and big brother inc tyranny stamp of compliance vs being able to look at yourself in the mirror and picking up a framing hammer.

    Hey docs. There is a morning after. The sooner you come clean the sooner you can look in the mirror. There are worse fates than picking up a framing hammer. Its a pnumatic nail gun now…You will have to hables espanol tho. Smily face gif.

    • hillcountry says:

      jj – you nailed it

    • Xabier says:

      Even if there is no ‘morning after’, they should participate in this. One cannot make any excuse for them.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        People on 180 IQs often challenge Fast Eddy on the concept of the Elders… and ask how they could possibly control so many people…

        And I say — they pay them.

        How many doctors are currently refusing to offer the jab? Next to ZERO….

        There is a lot of money in jabbing people but more importantly … if they refuse…. they could lose their license to practice – like that doctor in Ireland…

        Who do we think is issuing the edict to revoke licenses i.e. destroy doctors’ ability to earn MUNNY…

        Same people who are ordering every MSM outlet on the planet to attack Sweden over their Covid strategy… if they refuse …. the same people make a few calls to ad agencies who recommend the offending media to their clients and suggest they remove them from the media plan….

        It is actually very easy to control just about anyone … it’s called MUNNY. And when you have unlimited amounts of it… well you have unlimited power and control…

        Did I mention that my dog really likes being out on the porch… she likes to watch for rabbits and chase them.. she could sit out there all day long …. if I ask her to come in she is very reluctant…

        BUT if I offer her a treat …. she scampers into the house tail wagging … assumes the seated position … and awaits the bribe.

        You could do the same with a cow by offering an apple… you can do the same with humans by offering MUNNY.

        It really is that easy.

  41. MM says:

    Ramping up production to meet supply chain problems is difficult due to supply chain problems:


    • Trying to solve the global chip crunch? You will need more chipmaking machines. But you won’t be able to get them — because of the shortage of chips.

      This conundrum is the latest sign of how the global semiconductor supply crunch is now spreading so far that it is rebounding onto the chipmaking industry itself.

      Delivery times for some critical tools have grown to 12 months or more,

  42. Yoshua says:

    Turkey is another Covid hot spot despite having 20 million, or 25 percent of its population vaccinated. Covid cases are rising in a straight line, making new record highs at 60,000 cases a day.

  43. Yoshua says:

    Israel has vaccinated 50 percent of the population and has now only 35 cases a day.
    Chile has vaccinated 40 percent of the population and has 7,000 cases a day.

    The difference between them?

    Israel – Pzifer and lockdowns
    Chile – Sinovac and no lockdowns

    • VFatalis says:

      Different seasons.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      So if lockdowns are so effective why are all these lockdown countries experiencing such high death rates compared to Sweden?


      • Kowalainen says:

        About the only thing “good” with the moron Swedish “strategy” is no lockdowns. Yesterday I went to grab a pizza from the local pub/pizzeria. Jam packed with people. The thirsty plebs wearing masks? Hahahaha, yeah, right..

        The grim reaper already harvested weakened souls at the nursing homes with the kind assistance of the institutionalized sociopathy roaming the corridors of Stockholm syndrome. It is despicable.

        If you want to do a valid comparison, include Taiwan. Second place is the first loser among the countries with no lockdowns.




  44. People catching on to their Extermination Plan

    Doctors and nurses are struggling to fill bookings for the Covid jab amid slow rollout – leaving THOUSANDS of doses of the vaccine sitting in fridges

    Doctors and nurses are having trouble securing an adequate number of patients keen to receive a Covid jab – after Australian authorities scrambled to get their hands on a sufficient supply of the vaccines.

    Thousands of doses are still sitting in fridges across Sydney as Phase 1b candidates think twice about getting the jab.

    The AstraZeneca vaccine, which Australia pinned its hopes on for the bulk of its rollout, has been linked to blood clots in rare cases across the world.

    Daily Mail Australia on Thursday revealed Genene Norris, a 48-year-old from NSW, was put on dialysis shortly after getting the vaccine and died a few days later.

    Earlier this month the Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation announced that under 50s should not be given the AstraZeneca dose and are urged to wait for an alternative.

    Medical clinics who put on extra staff for the rollout have been unable to fill patient bookings following concerns over the AstraZeneca jab – despite Federal Health Minister Greg Hunt urging Australians not to lose faith in the vaccination program.

    • Kowalainen says:

      Genene Norris? Too bad, that close to the man Chuck himself. What a pity.

      The virus would self quarantine if exposed to the roundhouse blows from Chuck’s impenetrable immune defense.



    • Fast Eddy says:

      I suspect there will be loads of people who refuse the jab…. the Elders expect that …

      But I don’t think it matters… hundreds of millions are on the bus now… more than enough to get us to Devil Covid

    • Ed says:

      from article

      “Dr. Cirigliano added that whether or not the Amish community has heard immunity should not make anyone else think it is feasible for their households, and wind up letting their guard down.”

      Do not use the scientific method it would be “letting your guard down”.
      Common sense “should not make anyone think”.

      • Amish should perhaps be watched as a group. How did ignoring medical advice really work?

        By the way, I notice that the misspelling of “herd immunity” is in the original article as well.

        • Z says:

          LOL because “medical advice” is often times the most harmful advice you can take.

          The third leading cause of death in the US is medical error.

          But hey….keep listening to the doctors….they are such geniuses.

          • Dennis L. says:

            From CDC:

            Heart disease: 659,041
            Cancer: 599,601
            Accidents (unintentional injuries): 173,040
            Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 156,979
            Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 150,005
            Alzheimer’s disease: 121,499
            Diabetes: 87,647
            Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 51,565
            Influenza and pneumonia: 49,783
            Intentional self-harm (suicide): 47,511


            Dennis L.

            • Iatrogenic injury is not listed as a cause of death by the CDC, unless somehow it is part of “accidents.” There have been a number of studies done on this subject. This is an article from 2016 about the issue, saying that more than 250,000 deaths per year are due to medical error, which would make it the third leading cause of death, if that were an available cause of death. https://hub.jhu.edu/2016/05/03/medical-errors-third-leading-cause-of-death/

              There was a big study done, quite a few years ago whose details I remember seeing. From what I remember, most of the people who died were quite elderly. I would expect that dying of an infection in a hospital after coming in for some other cause would be considered an iatrogenic injury. Dying of a drug interaction would be considered an iatrogenic injury. If a person is given an excessive dose of a drug and it results in the person’s death, or one that they are allergic to, and it results in a death, that would be an iatrogenic injury. It is hard for me to believe that the results were that high, but hospitals were not very careful back then about doses on drugs and a lot of other details.

              I don’t think that dentists were very often involved in injuries that led to death.

    • jj says:

      The amish women walking proudly through the stores with neither they or their children wearing masks inspired a coward like me to do the same. There is a nobilty to them that im afraid i will never have. Ive grown used to the stares. Theirs more unmasked in the stores everyday. No one says anything. Everyones polite. Many express support with their tone of their voice and body language.

      Where its rural. Where its PC it doesnt fly.

      Im not just saying PC BS. Their is a strength to some women that men can only observe. I feel privileged to observe examples.

      The mask is still in my pocket.

      Bet its not in that amish womens pocket.

      Such a simple thing. Exposing your face. We didnt think twice.

      Its practice for manifesting your will that you never accept this violation to your body your humanity. Lose your societal privileges? I will miss them but i wont allow them to put that thing in my body.

      Very envious of the amish. THey made the right choice long ago. Simple peaceful lives. They take your societal privledges? Dont want them. They are not desirable. BYE.

      Simple peacful lives. Thats all we have. The amish are our light our role models and our guidance. Terrible times or opportunity for growth? Everything they take just let it go.

      Simple. Peaceful. Humble

      Thats all we have. Everything else is theirs. Repo time.

      • Tim Groves says:

        What a beautiful sentiment!

      • Xabier says:

        There have been some bizarre fluctuations in mask wearing here in Cambridge: I particularly note open-air wearing, as that shows a deep level of conformity, fear and conditioning.

        Yesterday, in very crowded sunny streets, not one person was distancing, and masks were very rare -about 0.5% I’d say, down from a peak of at least 20% late last year.

        They look pitiful and sad. Oddly enough, it’s often couples,and young ones at that. Too much time on screen?

        People have clearly had enough, but are conforming in shops – very slackly though in some cases.

        • Tim Groves says:

          In Japan, in big cities and small towns alike, mask wearing in the street is above 90% at present. But it drops off to perhaps 30% for people in cars.

          In the summer, there will be a lot less masks because in really hot and humid weather they make it impossible for many people to breathe.

          Social distancing is totally ignored out of doors. Most people must have twigged that if the masks are working, who needs to worry about distance, and if the masks aren’t working, but the only Covid most of them hear about is in the media, then what’s the point of taking any of these precautions anyway.

          The Japanese authorities are in a quandary at present. The scenario they are working from, which doesn’t seem to have been leaked, probably calls for another bigger wave of disease and death to keep the panic going, but the government is also desperate to finally stage the 2020 Tokyo Olympics, even though it will be on a very reduced scale. For this reason I predict that the Japanese will have a quiet new-normal summer followed by a dark autumn.

        • Artleads says:

          Not too dissimilar to Santa Fe County. You can’t easily see a pattern to the masks. This is a tourist village, and most visitors (80%?) seem to wear masks. Locals like me don’t mingle with visitors all that much, and the mask wearing might be more hit or miss with us. I wouldn’t doubt that masks are a drag on my respiratory system, but I try to wear them when I remember, thinking that is the best of bad choices.

        • Duncan Idaho says:

          “We pretend to work and they pretend to pay us.”

      • Dennis L. says:

        According to the exec. director at the FQHC where I worked for a period of time as dental director, the Amish had high levels of depression. Note: that part of the medical record was not relevant to my scope of practice so I never looked for that data. There was also an issue with too much inbreeding which leads to genetic issues, bleeding disorders come to mind, e.g. hemophilia which was within my scope of practice. Vikings solved this issue by visiting other communities for opportunities to vary the gene pool.

        Amish by my understanding look at each technology to see if it will bring them together, there is considerable variance among communities. They are very much closed communities but being groups of humans, it would not be unexpected for them to face many of the same social issues of society as a whole, save Facebook, etc.

        Dennis L.

        • Xabier says:

          Exactly true: the Vikings who settled in Iceland took with them mostly Irish slave women, captured in raids, and it seems to have worked out well, genetically -although they seem to like to think they are pure Norse.

          My family in Spain became rather in-bred at one stage, only marrying among the other landowners in order to retain their legal and tax privileges, leading to infertility and madness – as happened to my great-uncle.

          Luckily my grandfather married a healthy and beautiful blonde country woman, bringing some much needed fresh blood after centuries of stagnation!

    • I can’t imagine that anyone who gets the vaccine this way will be able to sit for 15 minutes or half an hour, to be observed for an allergic reaction. The coach here seems to be what I would call a “bus,” dispensing the doses.

      • Xabier says:

        Severe reactions can take up to 3 hours to manifest, so the ’15 min wait’ rule is ludicrous.

        The vaccination buses are yet another offence against god sense and best medical practice.

        • The CDC website says the maximum length of time that severe reactions took 150 minutes to manifest in their (relatively small) sample of cases. The median time in their test cases was 13 minutes. They clearly knew 15 minutes or half an hour was too little time.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Collateral damage

    • Kowalainen says:

      Vax buses reminds me of….

      “A gas van or gas wagon (Russian: душегубка, dushegubka, literally “soul killer”; German: Gaswagen) was a truck reequipped as a mobile gas chamber. During World War II and The Holocaust, Nazi Germany developed and used gas vans on a large scale as an extermination method to murder inmates of asylums”


    • Fast Eddy says:

      How cool is that!!!!

      I suggest finding street thugs and paying them commissions to jump those without vax cards and force the lethal injection on them

  45. ‘Bill Gates is in my bloodstream!’ Mick Jagger releases pandemic-themed solo track

    Mick Jagger has released a new – and amusing – solo single, Eazy Sleazy, that rails against the boredom of lockdowns during the coronavirus pandemic.

    Dave Grohl plays drums, bass and guitar on the track, released as fans await the next Rolling Stones studio LP, which was teased in 2020.

    Rather depressingly, given that, at 77, Jagger is still a larger-than-life rock star, he appears to have had a remarkably similar and boring lockdown experience to ordinary people. The lyrics refer to him learning TikTok dances, lamenting fake football fan noise, and running out of clean clothes.

    One lyric reads: “Trying to write a tune / You better hook me up to Zoom / See my poncey books / Teach myself to cook / Way too much TV / It’s lobotomising me / Think I’ve put on on weight / I’ll have another drink / Then I’ll clean the kitchen sink.”

    He also complains of being “bossed around by pricks”, presumably regarding the privations of lockdown, but admits: “We took it on the chin / the numbers were so grim.” Tongue presumably in cheek, he frets: “Shooting the vaccine / Bill Gates is in my bloodstream / It’s mind control.”

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