We can’t expect COVID-19 to go away; we should plan accordingly

Can the world achieve “herd immunity” with respect to COVID-19? Anthony Fauci has said that 80% of the population needs to be vaccinated in order to reach herd immunity. My view is that using vaccines is unlikely to achieve this result, something I discussed in my August 2020 post, We Need to Change Our COVID-19 Strategy. Now, the news arm of the prestigious journal Nature has published a similar view: Five reasons why COVID herd immunity is probably impossible.

In this post, I explain why, in my view, COVID-19 seems likely to become endemic, like the flu. The vaccines won’t be enough to make it go away completely. I will also look at the issue of how we should respond to the cases of COVID-19 that we will almost certainly experience in the future.

To a significant extent, what we can and should do in the future is an energy issue. If we plan to transition to a green energy future, or if we simply plan to reduce usage of fossil fuels in future years, we probably need to scale back our plans for vaccines. In fact, any treatment that would be given in today’s emergency rooms is likely to become less and less possible as energy supplies deplete.

We will need to focus more on what our bodies can do for us, and what we can do to assist them in this effort. We also need to think about what simple changes to our environment (such as windows that open) can do for the prevention of both COVID-19 and the many other communicable diseases that we can expect to encounter in the future. The big issue will be changing expectations.

[1] Why herd immunity is unlikely

[1.1] Viruses don’t pay any attention to the geography of humans. As long as there are active cases anywhere, they will tend to spread to other countries.

Over the past year, we have seen how ineffective cutting off travel between countries is in stopping the path of the virus. Even New Zealand, far out in the Pacific Ocean, has been battling this issue. The country has found that occasional cases slip through, even with a required two-week stay in managed isolation after arrival.

Furthermore, there are hidden costs with staying this removed from the rest of the world; New Zealand’s only oil refinery has been losing money, given its low use of oil. This refinery has laid off about a quarter of its staff and is considering the option of quitting refining in 2022. New Zealand would then need to import a full range of refined products if it wants to continue having industry. Perhaps being too cut off from the rest of the world is a problem, rather than a solution.

[1.2] The cost of vaccines is high, especially for poor countries.

We can get a rough idea of the cost involved by looking at a news article about Israel’s dispute with Pfizer regarding its vaccine purchases. We can also see what goes wrong politically.

Israel recently made news for failing to pay Pfizer for the last 2.5 million vaccine doses that it purchased from the company. Pfizer retaliated by cutting off future vaccine shipments to Israel. The article linked above doesn’t tell us exactly how much Israel paid for Pfizer’s vaccine, but a calculation based on information in the article seems to indicate that future doses from a mixture of vendors would cost about $35 per dose, on average. We also know that US Medicare is paying $40 per dose for administering each dose of the vaccine. Putting these two amounts together, we can estimate that the purchase and administration of a single dose of COVID-19 vaccine costs about $75. Thus, a two-dose series costs about $150, with the high-tech vaccines Israel is now using (Pfizer, Moderna, and AstraZeneca).

We also know that Israel was planning to administer two doses per person, every six months, based on an early review of how well immunity was holding up for the vaccines. If it is really necessary to repeat the two-dose regimen every six months, then the annual per-person cost of the vaccine would be approximately 2 times $150, or $300 per person. Benjamin Netanyahu favors buying all of these doses, quite possibly because it might make him popular with voters. Netanyahu’s opposition does not, which seems to be why payment has not been forthcoming.

A cost of $300 per person would amount to 0.7% of Israel’s 2019 GDP, which is theoretically feasible. But for poorer countries, the relative cost would be much higher. For South Africa, it would amount to 5% of 2019 GDP. For Yemen, it would come to 40% of 2019 GDP. (These are my calculations, using World Bank GDP in current US$.) For countries with severe financial problems, any payment for vaccines would almost certainly be a problem.

There are less expensive vaccines being made, but their percentages of efficacy in fighting the virus that causes COVID-19 seem to be lower. Thus, it would be even more difficult to greatly reduce the number of cases down to the point where the disease would simply disappear for lack of an adequate number of victims to infect, using these vaccines.

[1.3] The fact that the disease can infect animals further adds to the problem of getting rid of the disease completely.

The disease supposedly jumped from an animal to humans to begin with. We know that the virus that causes COVID-19 can infect animals of many types, including ferrets and cats. While the disease jumping from animals to humans is supposedly unusual, we know that the disease spreads easily among humans with inadequate immunity. Having a reservoir of disease among animals raises the likelihood of this happening again. Having a reservoir of vulnerable people (not immune and in poor health) also increases such a risk.

[1.4] Microbes of all types mutate frequently. We are fighting a losing battle to stay even with them. This is especially a problem for narrowly targeted vaccines.

We know that whenever we try to reduce the population of microbes, scientists can find solutions that work for a while, but eventually we start losing the battle. Scientists can develop antibiotics against bacteria, but eventually some bacteria will evolve in a way that allows them to resist the effects of the antibiotic. In fact, antibiotic resistance is becoming a greater and greater problem. Similarly, scientists can develop weed killers, but weeds soon develop resistance to whatever we develop. The situation seems to be similar with vaccines, unfortunately.

In this case, scientists have developed vaccines that target the RNA of the spike protein of the virus that causes COVID-19. In some sense, this approach is very precise, leading to a high proportion of COVID-19 cases being stopped. The drawback is that it is very easy for small mutations in the spike protein to make the vaccine not work well. We end up needing to obtain booster shots of slightly revised versions of the vaccine quite often, perhaps every six months. If booster shots are not given, the vaccine is likely to become less effective against the new mutations that arise.

One danger is that manufacturers cannot keep up with all of changes needed to match the new mutations. Another is that the cost of trying to keep up with this whole process will become prohibitive. The medical care system may be forced to give the vaccine process up, leaving citizens worse off than they might have been if we hadn’t “flattened the curve” and kept the virus around for an extended period of time, allowing all of these mutations.

[1.5] There are very real reasons for people’s reluctance to accept the vaccine, when it is offered to them. Because of this, it is difficult to get very close to 100% acceptance (or even 80% acceptance) of the vaccines.

There seem to be any number of reasons why people are reluctant to get the new vaccine. Some are afraid of the pain involved with the shot. Others are afraid that they will be somewhat ill afterward, causing them to miss work. If employees are paid on an hourly basis and they barely have enough income as it is, this, by itself, could be a reason for avoiding the shot. Financial incentives might help with these issues.

Others who are reluctant have followed the situation more closely. They realize that important steps in the normal vaccine approval process have been skipped, making it difficult to identify adverse effects that occur fairly infrequently. Even worse, it becomes impossible to discover problems that take many months or years to become evident. Over 100 doctors and scientists from 25 countries have signed a letter saying that offering vaccines that are as radically different from what has been used in the past, without more testing, is unethical.

One concern is the likelihood of blood clots in the immediate period after the vaccine is received. Blood clots have also been observed with the AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson vaccines, and may be a concern with other vaccines, as well. There seem to be several related conditions, including sudden blindness, heart attacks, and sudden deaths of elderly people in nursing homes. These issues seem to be fairly rare, but people worry about them without adequate data on their frequency. If the issue is blood clots, it would seem as if simple adjustments such as taking low-dose aspirin for the time period of risk might be a partial solution.

We know that in some cases, vaccines can inadvertently make later exposure to somewhat different versions of the virus worse, rather than stopping these infections. The virus that causes the illness SARS is very similar to the virus that causes COVID-19. When an attempt was made at a vaccine for SARS in 2012, a study on mice showed that exposure at a later date to a slightly different virus led to blood clots forming in the lungs. We already know that blood clots can be an issue for COVID-19 vaccines. Will COVID-19 vaccine recipients who are later exposed to mutations have an adverse reaction such as blood clots in the lungs? We don’t know. There have been no animal studies with respect to the vaccines for COVID-19.

Another risk of COVID-19 vaccinations would seem to be auto-immune problems, especially in people who are already predisposed to such issues. Not much research has been done yet to clarify this issue.

A related issue is allergic reactions to vaccines, including anaphylaxis. The possibility of allergic reactions is one reason vaccine recipients are asked to stay for 15 minutes after receiving their immunizations. Even with precautions, some deaths are occurring because severe allergic reactions can take up to 150 minutes to become apparent. It is impractical to keep vaccine recipients this long.

The very long-term effects of both the COVID-19 illness and vaccines to prevent the COVID-19 illness are unknown. The Alzheimer’s Association recommends studies to see whether people who contract COVID-19 have a long-term increase in dementia-type illnesses. In theory, the vaccines could also lead to similar issues because of prion-like structures that are formed, both with the vaccine and the disease. Without long-term studies, we don’t know whether either of these concerns is valid. If dementia is an issue, will repeated vaccinations raise the long-term risk of dementia? We don’t know. If the disease itself and vaccines can both lead to dementia, is there an optimal strategy?

Without a better understanding of what the risks are, it is hard to convince young people, especially, to take the vaccine. Their chances of a severe outcome from the disease are low to begin with. What is the point of taking a vaccine that may raise their risk of serious injury or death? The vaccine may be appropriate for people aged 80 and over, but is the risk really necessary for young people? Without better data, it is hard to know for certain.

[2] Why a change away from dependence on vaccines is needed

The Nature article referred to earlier says in its concluding paragraph, “It’s time for realistic expectations. . . we need to think of how we can live with the virus.”

Also, as I mentioned in the introduction, we are reaching energy limits. Even if in theory we could vaccinate everyone on the planet twice a year for COVID-19, we do not have the resources to do this. In some ways, the problem looks like a cost problem (poor countries especially cannot afford to buy high-priced vaccines), but it is just as much a resource problem. We cannot devote enough resources to this project without taking them away from other necessary projects. The vaccines are very much a product of today’s fossil fuel economy. We can’t expect to make vaccines with intermittent electricity.

Because of limited resources, we may encounter something similar to the “empty shelf” problem in the grocery stores. We may find that only limited doses of vaccine are available because too many doses were accidentally ruined in production. Or, not enough of the right reagents were available. Or, more doses are needed in the country where the vaccine is manufactured, leaving less for use elsewhere. Or, there is a war in a country integral to vaccine supply lines, interfering with production.

In fact, obtaining promised supplies of vaccines is already a problem. Trying to scale up production at the same time that resources in general are squeezed is likely to make this type of problem increase.

[3] Learning to live with COVID-19 and diminishing resources per capita

If we can’t really fix the COVID-19 problem with endless vaccines for everyone, we need to look at other options.

[3.1] Strengthening our own immune systems

Our bodies come with built-in immune systems. It is the action of the immune system that tends to lead to a low incidence of and low severity of COVID-19 in some people, compared to others. Some of the things that seem to be helpful include the following:

  • Being young
  • Getting plenty of sleep at night
  • Not being overweight. Proper exercise and diet are helpful in this regard.
  • Maintaining a healthy microbiome. Our bodies need good microbes to help fight the “bad” microbes. Antibiotics, excessive antibacterial cleaners and a lack of exposure to “good” bacteria could be problems. Staying away from everyone and wearing masks, indefinitely, is not necessarily helpful.
  • Getting adequate vitamin D through sun exposure, eating of foods that are high in vitamin D and/or supplementation. Dark skinned people living away from the equator are especially at risk for inadequate vitamin D.
  • Getting adequate vitamin C from fruits and vegetables and perhaps supplementation.

Researchers need to be actively looking into optimal strategies to advise citizens. Schools might start teaching about these issues in health classes.

[3.2] Changing our customs and infrastructure to try to reduce the problem of communicable diseases in general, not just for COVID-19.

Customs for greetings among people vary greatly around the world. Some people use hugs and handshakes, others greet with bows. We may need to adopt more distant physical greetings, simply to help reduce the transmission of disease. Of course, hugging at home is still fine.

In the last 100 years, the emphasis increasingly has been on building tighter, more energy-efficient buildings. This is good from a point of saving energy, but it doesn’t work in a world with many communicable diseases. We need to move toward much more ventilation, often based on open windows. Because of energy constraints, we likely cannot expect to keep heating and cooling our buildings as much in the future. We will need to dress more for outdoor temperatures, indoors.

Some leaders have suggested rapid electric rail is the way of the future, but rail transport also needs to be well ventilated. It is also likely that we will be dealing with more intermittency of electricity supply in the future. We need to plan as if we are dealing with an electricity constrained future, as much as an oil and vaccine constrained future.

[3.3] Finding low energy ways to deal with the likely COVID-19 cases that do occur.

The approach in the “rich world” to date in looking for ways to deal with COVID-19 has been to look for new, high technology drugs and vaccines that might have a two-fold benefit (a) help sick people and (b) help the pharmaceutical industry. What we really need are technologies that are low cost and can be used at home. Repurposed old drugs, such as steroids, are ideal, especially if they can be made locally without dependence on international supply lines.

If COVID-19 doesn’t really disappear, we can expect recurring instances of having inadequate medical facilities to treat all of the patients in a given area. Countries need to plan strategies for dealing with this likely long-term problem. Should there be an upper age limit on patients using these facilities, for example, especially when demand is high? Or can the richest citizens have the ability to buy services, when others cannot? Should there be a lottery for beds? Ordering everyone to remain at home is sort of a temporary solution, but it is very damaging to the economy as a whole.

[3.4] Finding leadership that can think in a direction other than “more technology will save us.” Unfortunately, this is pretty much impossible.

Back in 1979, Jimmy Carter tried to change the direction of the US economy when he gave his famous Sweater Speech. In this speech, he told people that they needed to adjust their thermostats and drive their vehicles less because there was an energy crisis. We all know that Jimmy Carter was not reelected after this speech. Instead, Ronald Reagan was elected. He cut taxes and raised debt levels, temporarily delaying our need to deal with our energy problem.

When Anthony Fauci took on the COVID-19 issue, he led us in the direction of spending more money on vaccines and pharmaceuticals. His own financial interests and his work interests were in the direction of helping the vaccine and pharmaceutical interests. He certainly didn’t stop to think, “This is not a battle that we can win. There are too many instances of transmission of the virus by people who have no symptoms. Our track record at wiping out diseases with vaccines has been pretty dismal in the past. Stopping COVID-19 in one part of the world won’t stop the long-term problem.”

I expect that President Biden will continue on his current path until the economy “runs off the cliff.” I wrote in my recent post, Headed for a Collapsing Debt Bubble, that the economy was reaching a point where a major discontinuity would occur. Interest rates are about as low as they can go, and debt levels are reaching an upper bound.

Figure 1. Ten-year and three-month US Treasury interest rates as of March 1, 2021.

Ronald Reagan’s administration started to decrease interest rates shortly after he took office in 1981. This drop in interest rates has hidden rapidly rising debt and energy problems for many years. We are now running out of room on both energy and debt. When the world’s debt bubble collapses, our ability to fight COVID-19 with vaccines will likely go downhill quickly. We will then need to find new strategies. Unfortunately, considering new strategies in advance is almost impossible.

[4] Conclusion

While it is possible to see what change in direction seems to be needed with respect to COVID-19 and infectious diseases in general, it is not something that those in leadership positions will be able to implement. Instead, we will likely “go off the cliff” at full speed. Changing expectations in advance is almost impossible.

At most, a few interested people can try to explain to their fellow citizens what is happening. Perhaps, in our own little spheres of influence, we can make some small changes in the right direction, starting with strengthening our own immune systems.

About Gail Tverberg

My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
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3,514 Responses to We can’t expect COVID-19 to go away; we should plan accordingly

  1. davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:


    the chart shows that commodity prices right now are very average, having moved up from a historical low point, and are trending to break out higher.

  2. Fast Eddy says:

    The only way to demonstrate to the CovIDIOTS that the earth is not flat… will be to kill them… (and even then…to their final breath they’ll still call the Leak .. a conspiracy theory)

    • Xabier says:

      And he does have such a beautiful, honest smile. Simply exudes integrity and humanity….

  3. IMF Chief KGeorgieva: Vaccine policy is economic policy.

    • “Without vaccine, we cannot turn the fate of the world economy around.”

      Actually, vaccines are a temporary bandage at best. No matter what we do, we cannot turn the fate of the world economy around.

      • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

        yes a temporary tactic that should help to delay but ultimately not prevent the inevitable decline.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        People seem to forget (or never understood) that the GFC was a product of the peaking of conventional oil … we were already running up against the limits to growth…

        Then shale peaked… and as Art says – shale was the retirement party for oil … There’s nothing after shale… just like once you suck the beer dregs out of the carpet — you need to face the fact… the party is at that point — OVER.

        Covid is nothing more than a bad flu — it was made in a lab and released on purpose to give cover for the next phase of As the World Ends…. specifically it allowed us to reduce our burn rate without spooking the cattle (imagine if the Elders had say — folks – we need to stop most travel because we are peaked on oil … OMG!!!)

        And… of course it will also be used to justify a ‘vaccine’ that is going to exterminate us.

        Now don’t take your eyes off the ball here… it’s not an Infinite World just because of Covid… it’s still Finite… and we are still going off the cliff.

        • Xabier says:

          People generally accepted the propaganda narrative that GFC 1 was all about banks being naughty, nothing to do with oil, etc.

          So they fail to see that we have been living on borrowed time, and how the pandemic is helpful and convenient……

          • Fast Eddy says:

            That’s the problem with being unwilling to see what is in front of their eyes… they could have used the past decade+ doing stuff that they always wanted to do — and now … it’s too late.

            BAU … that big old beast… is on it’s knees…

            The fight … is nearly over

            Most of them remain clueless

    • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

      “Because without it [vaccine policy], we cannot turn the fate of the world economy around.”

      exactly my previous conclusion about what they are thinking.

      TPTB are determined to reverse the economic downturn and turn it back to economic growth.

      they don’t care if many people die of the vaccine, as long as the pandemic is lessened and economic growth is restored.

      an additional plus side is that the vaccines enrich them even more.

      win/win for them.

      and since the MSM is directly tied to Big Pharma through billions of advertising dollars, and both are directly tied to politicians, therefore the message from all sides is to get the jab, and never mind the frequent serious side effects.

      it’s transparent.

      there is no plan to downsize the economy and the population.

      the transparent intention of most countries is to do whatever it takes to restore their own economic growth.

      and so restore world growth.

      (from my view, it also is transparent that energy issues assure that economic growth is near its end, and the top world “economists” are not enough systems thinkers to see that.)

      it’s transparent.

      • VFatalis says:

        TPTB wants you to believe they are pushing on vaccines to restore economic activity. That’s a reasonable and convenient story people want to hear. We take great comfort into making sense of things we don’t fully understand, right ?

        But you fell into their trap. They know growth can’t be restored. They know it’s the end game. You underestimate them, and you will continue to do so until you understand what’s behind all this. But to understand what’s happening, you need to accept it. Your mind is still struggling, because the situation we’re in isn’t exactly pretty and you don’t want to see it. Cognitive dissonance needs to grow a bit more, until discomfort makes it no longer possible to ignore.

        When you’ll repeatedly hear stories of children dying from lethal injections, when you’ll see mlllions of vaccinated people suffering from auto immune diseases leading to unavoidable and painful death in the next few months, you’ll eventually figure it out. You will aknowledge that we’re reaching the end of the line. Your illusions will be destroyed. That’s guaranteed.

        • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

          I’m not struggling at all.

          I’m okay with whatever future.

          “… when you’ll see millions of vaccinated people suffering from auto immune diseases leading to unavoidable and painful death in the next few months…”

          okay, thanks for that prediction.

          so certainly by August then?

          good, that is easily testable.

          I also predict a devastating future for humanity, but I’m more of a Slow Doomer, more like late in this decade or early 2030s.

          but if it’s soon, okay, nothing I can do to stop The POWERS That Be.

      • hillcountry says:

        Indeed it is transparent, as are the assumptions and the inherent prevarications about that which will likely undermine projected growth.

        March 18, 2021

        It’s an interesting title, considering they’re talking a growth-story.

        IEA’s Base Case shows growth in oil demand of 4 million bpd by 2026
        Assumptions include: pandemic recovery starting second-half of 2021, a substantial portion of new vehicles being electric, tele-work continuing post-pandemic. Thus, demand-recovery by 2023-2024.

        An Alternative Case (“almost impossible”) posits conditions required for a demand-peak by 2026 including widespread regulations globally to trigger a fall in demand, given the dynamics from emerging economies in Asia.

        Base Case Peak-Demand projection – “possible” in late 2020’s but “it’s only one of the possibilities among all of the unknowns” – “can emerging markets adopt a path that’s not oil-dependent like we’ve done in the West.” Question about changes in demand being asymmetrical and if Asia can electrify transportation and meet net-zero target.

        Now Olivier Lejeune is out past ten years from now in his projections. India and China oil demand will continue to grow over the next decade. He really waffles on the question of how long electrification of the auto fleet will take.

        He sees the Peak Demand idea as revolutionary and on its way as soon as 2030 “and probably by 2050”, pointing out that ten years ago “we were worried about Peak Supply”.

    • Tim Groves says:

      This news lady says, in a thick Aussie accent, “An Australian biotech company has developed a new treatment that it hopes will prevent people dying from Covid vaccines.”

      I wonder if it involves Vegemite?

    • Xabier says:

      A good rational hypothesis, and the one I started with, but its explanatory weakness is that it doesn’t take into account the various Agendas knocking about, the WEF, the deluded religion of Transhumanism, the move to digitisation of everything and the perceived need to destroy ‘legacy’ structures, etc.

      It is a little too traditional in its premises: corruption,panic, etc. My own sense is that we are in new territory since the end of 2019.

      We shall see what transpires – may the best hypothesis win! But will be alive to adjudicate the prize?

  4. LOL! Jonathan Pie comments on vaccines, passports and the poverty.

  5. Growing push to prioritize pregnant women for COVID-19 vaccine

    • Except we have no idea whether the vaccine is safe for the fetus during the first part of pregnancy.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Then they trot out the flunky to say they have seen pregnant women with covid in the hospital hahaha…

      Love it!

      I’ll buy the CEP PR Team a round!!!

  6. This is Mind Blowing. This was shown at a Wellness Convention. This is the Pfizer mRNA under 2000x magnification. They are unsure of the exact nature, but it looks like a living organism which contains moving particles. They’re now sending these images to Immunologist Dr. Capel

  7. Photos of Allen Luxenberg, now hospitalized in New York for lesions he fears were caused by his Moderna vaccination.

  8. Lesson plan for 5 to 10 year olds in Irish schools to be delivered this week.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      How amazing to watch The Borg terminate itself (thinking it is protecting itself!)

      • Xabier says:

        It’s remarkable, I agree FE: they have worked out how to get people to wreck their society, economy, health and sanity, torture their children with each new protective measure – and to do so cheerfully and with ‘pride’…..

        This is the PsyOp to beat them all – all based on a few simple false premises.

  9. This is coming everywhere

    Cambodia accused of using Covid to edge towards ‘totalitarian dictatorship’

    New law means people could face 20 years in prison for lockdown breaches, as campaigners warn of ‘human rights disaster’

    Cambodians who break Covid rules could face 20 years in prison under a new law that human rights groups say takes the country “a step towards a totalitarian dictatorship”.

    Prime minister Hun Sen warned that Cambodia was “on the brink of death” as a two-week lockdown was imposed in Phnom Penh on Thursday to try to control the spread of the virus.

    The law means those convicted could face fines of up to $5,000 (£3,627) as well as prison terms, and grants the government the power to ban or restrict any gathering or demonstration indefinitely.

    “For the Cambodian people, the Covid-19 pandemic has been not only a public health and economic tragedy, but also a human rights disaster courtesy of a government determined to move the country step by step towards totalitarian dictatorship,” said Phil Robertson, deputy director of the Asia division at Human Rights Watch.

    Sopheap Chak, executive director at the Cambodian Center for Human Rights, said the new law, which was introduced last month, lacked transparency, used “vague and broad terminology” and had no oversight.

    She said: “The law’s ill-defined offences open the door to subjective interpretation and arbitrary enforcement, and the disproportionate criminal sanctions they carry represent a threat for critical and dissenting voices in Cambodia, against whom the repressive legislative framework has frequently been used as a weapon in recent years.”

    • I am afraid you are correct, FE!

    • Azure Kingfisher says:

      Is there a correlation between a country’s energy supply and lockdowns? In other words, are countries that are energy poor experiencing the most severe lockdowns?

      • You raise an interesting question.

        In some sense, China is the most energy-rich country in the world. It has been very controlling of its population, but it hasn’t had a whole lot in the way of lockdowns after the initial Wuhan lockdown. If they do find a case, they do a very targeted lockdown.

        Russia is another very energy-rich country. It doesn’t seem to be very interested in lockdowns.

        I haven’t checked, but I think that there are quite a few Asian countries without lockdowns, but without many cases either.

        The places that are noted for lockdowns do indeed have major energy problems. Eastern Canada, UK, most of Europe, Australia and New Zealand. The Northeastern and Western part of the US are known for severe lockdowns. The Northwest has hydroelectric, but apart from this, the US areas with severe lockdowns are lacking for oil supplies. What they tend to have is dense population, at least in some areas of the states.

        Australia has a lot of coal, but is short of oil. It has a history of quarantining visitors to the country. New Zealand is similar, I believe.

        I don’t think that there is a very clear answer to the question, especially if a person looks world-wide. It would take quite a bit of work to figure out how to categorize countries. In some sense, every country is short of energy now. That is the real underlying problem. How they solve the problem varies a bit.

  10. MM says:

    Get your grips on the concept of “plausible deniability”…

  11. Canadians support a basic income. Will the Liberals finally deliver?

    Liberal Party delegates voted to pass not one but two basic income resolutions at their national convention that ran from April 8-10, making basic income the governing party’s second most important policy issue.

    For those in support of basic income — a no-strings payment to anyone who needs it — this vote passing could seem like a cause for celebration. But before we get ahead of ourselves, it’s worth asking: what, if anything, will the Liberals do to make basic income a reality? For anyone keeping count, the Liberals have so far failed to follow through on their promises of universal pharmacare, ending boil water advisories and electoral reform, to name a few.

    Let’s consider the moment we are in. After multiple basic income pilots with positive results and numerous reports arguing its merits, basic income has arguably become a mainstream policy issue. According to a recent poll by the Angus Reid Institute, a majority of Canadians support basic income.

    • MM says:

      In german it is called “Bedingungsloses Grundeinkommen”.
      I say it is “income for obidience”.
      No, it is of course not.

      I talked to a friend lately and complained why the musical artists in my country do not step up. He said: “Well they are well off because they get government support”.

      Thanks, nuff said.

  12. Armed checkpoints appear along Ontario-Manitoba border

    Without the snow and pine trees, drivers could be mistaken for believing it to be the Texas-Mexico border.

    An Ontario Provincial Police tactical command vehicle has been spotted setting up along a highway from Manitoba into the province.

    Ontario Premier Doug Ford announced on Friday authorities would start manning the borders at 12:01 a.m. Monday making sure only essential travellers are getting into the province.

    Sunday night, pictures started to appear on social media of what appeared to be an OPP command vehicle setting up shop on an Ontario highway at the Manitoba border.

    “Should an individual not have a valid reason to enter Ontario, they will be turned back,” said Ontario’s Solicitor General Sylvia Jones during a news conference Friday.

    “Why are you coming into Ontario at this time? Is it necessary for medical, personal or work reasons? If it’s not, respectfully, you need to turn away until we deal with the variants, and until we get sufficient vaccines to make sure that our citizens are protected.”

    Failing to comply with the Ontario restrictions could result in a fine of at least $750.

    On Monday morning, a police check point appeared on the Champlain bridge stopping traffic headed into Ontario from Quebec.

    • Bizarre! Of course, New York, Massachusetts and a few other states were trying to keep others out, a few months ago.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Hmmm… where did I already read about this????? Ah yes… The Leak… it was in The Leak.

      • Bei Dawei says:

        You mean that same leak that predicted that Canada would abolish private property sometime this year?

        • Fast Eddy says:

          That’s the one…. however I think that part is BS… along with the Great Reset

          I don’t see us getting to that point … but Trudeau and the CEP In Crowd … would have been given this ‘Great Reset’ agenda by the CEP PR Team…

          There has to be a reason for inventing Covid … they can’t obviously say … we need you to execute the CEP … oh what’s that? That’s where we kill everyone because of Peak Oil to prevent them from ripping faces off… if 30% of the people attending lost the plot over the Great Reset… you can imagine what would happen if they were told The Truth. The only executing of any plan we’d see would involve Trudeau’s head…..

          So they were given this horse shit about Great Resets… Green Utopia ….communal ownership and all that jazz …

          Obviously none of that is possible …

          What I think is likely to happen — and fairly soon – is the leaky vaccines result in Devil Covid / Human Mareks (see my PHD Thesis on this topic)….

          And like those chickens…. huge numbers die… those who hide-away from the plague… simply starve to death … cowering in fear in their homes….

          Something like that…

          1:47 PM (7 hours ago) Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Saturday, October 10, 2020 1:38 PM, (REMOVED) wrote:

          Dear (REMOVED),

          I want to provide you some very important information. I’m a committee member within the Liberal Party of Canada. I sit within several committee groups but the information I am providing is originating from the Strategic Planning committee (which is steered by the PMO).

          I need to start off by saying that I’m not happy doing this but I have to. As a Canadian and more importantly as a parent who wants a better future not only for my children but for other children as well.

          The other reason I am doing this is because roughly 30% of the committee members are not pleased with the direction this will take Canada, but our opinions have been ignored and they plan on moving forward toward their goals. They have also made it very clear that nothing will stop the planned outcomes.

          The road map and aim was set out by the PMO and is as follows:

          – Phase in secondary lock down restrictions on a rolling basis, starting with major metropolitan areas first and expanding outward. Expected by November 2020. Expected by December 2020.

          – Daily new cases of COVID-19 will surge beyond capacity of testing, including increases in COVID related deaths following the same growth curves. Expected by end of November 2020.

          – Complete and total secondary lock down (much stricter than the first and second rolling phase restrictions). Expected by end of December 2020 – early January 2021

          – Reform and expansion of the unemployment program to be transitioned into the universal basic income program. Expected by Q1 2021.

          – Projected COVID-19 mutation and/or co-infection with secondary virus (referred to as COVID-21) leading to a third wave with much higher mortality rate and higher rate of infection. Expected by February 2021.

          – Daily new cases of COVID-21 hospitalizations and COVID-19 and COVID-21 related deaths will exceed medical care facilities capacity. Expected Q1 – Q2 2021.

          – Enhanced lock down restrictions (referred to as Third Lock Down) will be implemented. Full travel restrictions will be imposed (including inter-province and inter-city). Expected Q2 2021.

          – Transitioning of individuals into the universal basic income program. Expected mid Q2 2021.

          – Projected supply chain break downs, inventory shortages, large economic instability. Expected late Q2 2021.

          – Deployment of military personnel into major metropolitan areas as well as all major roadways to establish travel checkpoints. Restrict travel and movement. Provide logistical support to the area. Expected by Q3 2021. Along with that provided road map the Strategic Planning committee was asked to design an effective way of transitioning Canadians to meet a unprecedented economic endeavor.

          One that would change the face of Canada and forever alter the lives of Canadians. What we were told was that in order to offset what was essentially an economic collapse on a international scale, that the federal government was going to offer Canadians a total debt relief.

          This is how it works: the federal government will offer to eliminate all personal debts (mortgages, loans, credit cards, etc) which all funding will be provided to Canada by the IMF under what will become known as the World Debt Reset program. In exchange for acceptance of this total debt forgiveness the individual would forfeit ownership of any and all property and assets forever.

          The individual would also have to agree to partake in the COVID-19 and COVID-21 vaccination schedule, which would provide the individual with unrestricted travel and unrestricted living even under a full lock down (through the use of photo identification referred to as Canada’s HealthPass).

          Committee members asked who would become the owner of the forfeited property and assets in that scenario and what would happen to lenders or financial institutions, we were simply told “the World Debt Reset program will handle all of the details”. Several committee members also questioned what would happen to individuals if they refused to participate in the World Debt Reset program, or the HealthPass, or the vaccination schedule, and the answer we got was very troubling.

          Essentially we were told it was our duty to make sure we came up with a plan to ensure that would never happen. We were told it was in the individuals best interest to participate. When several committee members pushed relentlessly to get an answer we were told that those who refused would first live under the lock down restrictions indefinitely.

          And that over a short period of time as more Canadians transitioned into the debt forgiveness program, the ones who refused to participate would be deemed a public safety risk and would be relocated into isolation facilities. Once in those facilities they would be given two options, participate in the debt forgiveness program and be released, or stay indefinitely in the isolation facility under the classification of a serious public health risk and have all their assets seized.

          So as you can imagine after hearing all of this it turned into quite the heated discussion and escalated beyond anything I’ve ever witnessed before. In the end it was implied by the PMO that the whole agenda will move forward no matter who agrees with it or not. That it wont just be Canada but in fact all nations will have similar roadmaps and agendas.

          That we need to take advantage of the situations before us to promote change on a grander scale for the betterment of everyone. The members who were opposed and ones who brought up key issues that would arise from such a thing were completely ignored. Our opinions and concerns were ignored. We were simply told to just do it.

          All I know is that I don’t like it and I think its going to place Canadians into a dark future.

          Vancouver, Canada· Posted October 14

  13. Three prominent docs call lockdowns a waste of time

    They’ve been called “witch doctors” and “snake oil salesmen” for daring to go against the prevailing “group think” about lockdowns and to challenge the “preening camera hungry” medical experts who don’t represent the experience of clinicians and nurses on the front lines of the COVID battle.

    But in a lengthy Zoom interview this past week, Paul Elias Alexander, Howard Tenenbaum and Harvey Risch — all PhDs working out of prominent universities — told me flat-out that lockdowns are a complete waste of time.

    Risch, a professor of epidemiology at the Yale School of medicine, called them “counterproductive.”

    He said while lockdowns can reduce the numbers of COVID-infected patients, they only have a fighting chance when you can move every infected person out of a population.

    Once the lockdown ends, there are people waiting to be infected, he noted.

    “Once an epidemic has spread widely in a population or around the world, there’s no chance you can eradicate the virus completely,” Risch said, adding that putting travellers in quarantine for 14 days is also a waste of time.

    “This is all show, this is all theatre.”

    Alexander, a PhD educated in epidemiology who recently worked for the Health and Human Services Department in Washington, D.C. as a senior advisor on COVID-19 pandemic policy, said they have a year’s worth of data showing there have been “crushing harms” from the “draconian” lockdowns.

    “The present lockdown and school closures are not sustainable, illogical, and often driven by an ill-informed, sensationalized media,” he added.

    The controversial Alexander, who has repeatedly criticized Dr. Anthony Fauci for scaring Americans unnecessarily, said they saw data in the United States last summer indicating a dramatic spike among university and college students wanting to “commit suicide” because they couldn’t deal with the impact of isolation and being locked down.

    “We were seeing 300% increase in reported self-harms among kids in primary and elementary school,” said the McMaster University assistant professor.

    “We were also seeing data that business owners were hanging themselves across America … the collateral damage was far worse than COVID.”

    Alexander said he feels the new provincial lockdown — announced on Friday — might be the thing that “breaks the backs of Ontarians” because there’s “no credible” basis for it based on the data accumulated over the past 14 months.

    He added that the lockdowns prevent low-risk individuals in society — children, teenagers, and healthy middle-aged people — from going about their normal lives freely with sensible precautions.

    “By locking down, you’re preventing natural immunity or some reasonable level close to it,” said Alexander.

    Risch said that what we’ve faced is a “massive epidemic of stupidity.”

    • MM says:

      yes! but we love stupid movies!
      A love affair!
      So sweet!
      It took my emotions!
      I nearly cried!

      “Giving them the right to push my buttons will encourage them to push the red button”

      • MM says:

        By the way: I recently “streamed” (yes, i am building “it” too!) this movie:
        “Network. 1976”
        I really recommend it.
        I assume that the people in 1976 did not get the message.

        Why should someone pay for a loss ??

        Interestingly enough, it has a narcisstic aspect (Sam Vankin) and interestingly in the end it has a clear “crack” on the narrative. They could not fix it. Clear sign that it was not ready at that time…

        But they wanted to convey “THE” message.

        Message understood?

  14. Yoshua says:

    Heil! Hier kommt die Sonne!


  15. MM says:

    Remember the time last year, when we were discussing about “let it rip”?
    I really had a hard time with that argument and it still today is a bit difficult…

    I must admit that I have started to adopt the stoic vision of Gail in the point of
    “What must happen will happen”

    The people do not see what orwellian future they are already in and where they will be going.
    Any attempt to reach them is in vain.
    They want to go that way, so they will see where it will bring them.

    Let it rip!

    A good quote from the german blogosphere:

    “AI has a small problem. It has no idea about death. I can never apply any “value” to time as we humans can/must”.

    That also applies if you are in a “lineage” or “dynastic” or “confucianist (?)” idea of “world and time”.

    • MM says:

      sorry: “I can never apply…” -> “It can never apply..”

    • Fast Eddy says:

      i don’t think anyone suggested letting it rip… like with the flu… the strategy should be focused protection


    • Fast Eddy says:

      ….. adding to that…. I am sure plenty of people would be on for letting it rip …

      particularly those with close relatives in the death camps for the aged that smell of urine and shit… that they feel they to visit (as infrequently as possible)….

      anything that puts and end to that is welcome…

      I imagine plenty of people are quite pleased with the fact that there is a no visitor policy because of covid… so it’s not all bad news

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Excellent – just in time for the Covid Vaccine TEE VEE special!

      This is bigger than the Super Bowl! I suggest they organize a Vaccine Sunday…. bring in athletes from all the top sports leagues around the world –watch them get the jab… some big name acts (Justin Bieber????) for the ‘half time show’….

  16. hillcountry says:

    Vikram Rao on Shell’s LNG strategy March 19, 2021

    Why did Shell just declare peak oil & how they plan to capture renewables demand via natural gas

    • The speaker, Vikram Rao, starts out by explaining why what is happening is different from M. King Hubbert’s concept of peak oil.

      Rao thinks that “true peak” oil comes from reserves falling to lower and lower levels. He misses the point that the price is very important in this whole scenario. Reserves are indeed falling in 2021, because of low prices.

      Shell is simply explaining its own decision to cut back in oil production, according to Rao.

      Shell will add lots of LNG capacity in the next few years, and in fact natural gas in general.

      Says it is possible to make diesel from natural gas. (But the cost of production will be too high, I expect.)

      Rao thinks Shell’s plan is a good one. Thinks oil prices will be trending up. $45 – $85 range in 2021.

      • Duncan Idaho says:

        Peak oil is in the rear view mirror.
        It happen in November of 2018 (C+C).
        We are not even close to that amount.
        Will we pass that amount?
        I would not hold your breath..

        • Kowalainen says:

          Which assumes that the oil industry went full tilt 2018. But that is of course not the case. With the newest tech, they could probably squeeze the juices out of earth at an astounding rate. Well, for a little while.

          It is called deliberate mothballing/cutback to kick the rapacious primates into conservation mode, plus the pandemic hoopla.

          Fusion power didn’t pan out, what to do?

  17. Ed says:

    Putin is scheduled to give a speech on Wednesday. Might be interesting.

  18. 98% of French teachers say ‘non’ to AstraZeneca: Mass vaccination centre offering jab to over-55s is forced to close after just 58 people out of 3,000 signed up

    French teachers in the city of Nice have overwhelmingly rejected AstraZeneca’s Covid jab after just 58 out of a possible 3,000 signed up to be vaccinated.

    The jabs were being offered at a mass vaccination centre in Nice’s Palais des Expositions this weekend, with 4,000 available to those aged over 55 in high-risk occupations, meaning 3,000 teachers eligible to take part.

    But the centre was forced to close after just four hours on Saturday due to lack of demand with just 58 appointments registered, and did not reopen today despite being scheduled to do so.

    That means the take-up rate among eligible teachers was just 2 per cent, with one local official blaming vaccine hesitancy caused by scaremongering around the British-made jab.

    Anne Frackowiak-Jacobs, sub-prefect of nearby Grasse, said people had ‘turned around’ when they learned they would be given AstraZeneca.

    Macron previously described the AstraZeneca jab as ‘quasi-ineffective’ in older people and limited its use to the young, before flip-flopping after data suggested a link to very rare blood clots in the young, restricting it to older people instead.

    That has led to ‘vaccine hesitancy’ among French people – already Europe’s biggest vaccine-skeptics – with a survey last month showing 61 per cent of people now think the AstraZeneca jab is ‘unsafe.’

    Local officials tried to claim that vaccines had been advertised late and restrictions on age and occupation were also to blame for appointments going un-used.

    But Ms Frackowiak-Jacobs said it actually shows that French people have ‘no confidence’ in the British-made jab, despite world health authorities and Europe’s own regulator saying the benefits far outweigh the risks.

    The vaccination centre in Nice is now due to reopen on Monday and will instead offer Pfizer and Moderna jabs in the hopes of attracting more interest.

    The AstraZeneca jabs will instead be sent to a nearby fire station to be used by government employees on the priority list, Nice Martin reported.

    The scenes of empty vaccination centres played out in Nice even as France reports rising Covid cases with infections almost back to their second wave peak, despite a nationwide lockdown.

    On Saturday, the country reported another 35,000 new cases, bringing the overall total to 5.2million, and another 189 deaths.

    • No wonder:

      “Macron previously described the AstraZeneca jab as ‘quasi-ineffective’ in older people and limited its use to the young.” The young seem to be the ones with this blood clot problem.

  19. Two year old dies after having the Pfizer Covid Vaccine

    The death was reported to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS), the USA’s version of the Yellow Card scheme seen in the UK. Details show that the two year-old girl, from Virginia received a second dose of the experimental Pfizer jab on the 25th February 2021. But four days later on the 1st March the two year old was sadly admitted to hospital as she became gravely ill due to the jab.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Another happy story … thanks for this.

      If you find an interview with the CovIDIOT parents please share it

    • Tim Groves says:

      This was murder by medical malpractice. First they came for the old folks, but they are close to the end of the road anyway so most people turned a blind eye. Then they started on the toddlers.

  20. Diabetics urged to get COVID vaccine following blood clot death

    Diabetics are being encouraged to continue coming forward for the coronavirus vaccine, following news that a 48-year-old woman died after developing a very rare blood clot condition likely linked to her recent AstraZeneca shot.

    People with type 1 and type 2 diabetes are at increased risk of some types of blood clots, but experts said there is no evidence to suggest they run a greater risk of developing the rare condition believed to be caused by the AstraZeneca vaccine known as thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS).

    Central Coast woman Genene Norris, who had several chronic diseases, died last week at John Hunter Hospital after she developed blood clots in the arteries and veins and had a low platelet count.

    The Therapeutic Goods Administration’s vaccine safety investigation group concluded on Friday that her death was likely linked to the jab, but it remains under investigation because of the unusual clinical profile of the case, the regulator’s head, Professor John Skerritt said.

    There have been two previously confirmed Australian cases of TTS, and cases number fewer than five per million recipients of the AstraZeneca vaccine in the UK.

  21. hillcountry says:

    What if Fred Hoyle and Chandra Wickramasinghe are right about Panspermia?

    Title: The world should establish an early warning system for new viral infectious diseases by space‐weather monitoring (https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/mco2.20)

    Title: Sunspot Cycle Minima and Pandemics: The Case for Vigilance?
    Journal of Astrobiology & Outreach 2017 (https://tinyurl.com/5ch8yh78)

    Could that explain the anomalies and elite panic?


    • I am not convinced that early warning would do much to fix the problem. Anything that reduces globalization is a problem.

    • Azure Kingfisher says:

      I think there’s something to this, hillcountry.

      From your link:

      Title: Sunspot Cycle Minima and Pandemics: The Case for Vigilance?
      Journal of Astrobiology & Outreach 2017 https://tinyurl.com/5ch8yh78

      “Maxima in the sunspot cycle are characterised by high daily sunspot numbers, frequent solar flares, coronal discharges and X-ray emission. High fluxes of X-rays reach the Earth’s upper atmosphere but are almost totally absorbed by the lower atmosphere. A more important property of a sunspot maximum is that the interplanetary magnetic field near the Earth remains high, being generated and maintained by the flow of electrons from the sun. As such the Earth would be effectively shielded from the ingress of charged dust grains as well as galactic cosmic ray protons.

      “It is to sunspot minima that we must turn to seek a possible explanation of the onset of pandemics. Sunspot minima are characterised by a weakening of the interplanetary magnetic field near the Earth, which allows for the entry of Galactic Cosmic Rays (GCRs) as well as electrically charged bacteria and viruses to the Earth. When GCRs collide with the atmosphere they produce a cascade of secondary particles including neutrons and muons that continue to penetrate the atmosphere. The cascade continues until the particle energy becomes too low and GCRs are effectively stopped. This happens at 16-20 km. Significant neutron fluxes do, however, reach ground level and have the potential of causing mutations in both viruses and cells in general.

      “More significantly, in our view, during solar minimum, new viruses, bacteria and other microscopic biological entities can penetrate the interplanetary magnetic field barrier and reach the stratosphere. Descent of such particles to ground level by means of gravitational settling might take months or years depending on size. The final descent phase through the troposphere would be mostly controlled by meteorological events. It is also of interest to note that the first descent of viral-sized particles deposited in the stratosphere will occur at places where the stratosphere is thinnest; and by this argument populated areas of China lying eastward of the Himalayan mountain range would present the best candidates. It is therefore not surprising to find that first strikes of new or renewed viral diseases are often recorded in China.”

      Earth’s weakening magnetic field, along with a Grand Solar Minimum, would enable incoming trouble.

      Is it possible the COVID-19 scamdemic is cover for a genuine threat posed by Galactic Cosmic Rays, electrically charged bacteria, and viruses originating from space? Or perhaps, the COVID-19 scamdemic is a drill to prepare the world for what is yet to come.
      Might that also explain the emphasis on the need for the global population to take “vaccines” which are really gene therapies (addressing the space radiation problem)?
      Might that also explain the emphasis on the need for the global population to constantly test? What if all the testing is really about DNA collection and analysis, with the goal being to observe, study and react to any genetic changes that are occurring within a given population?
      Might that also explain the emphasis over the past several years on selling DNA collection kits for companies like 23andMe, Ancestry.com, and others? An emergency DNA harvesting effort prior to the beginning of the Grand Solar Minimum?

      The beauty of mRNA-based technology as a delivery system is that, according to Moderna, new mRNA-based therapies can be brought to the market in as little as two months. Also, last year they released interim data from the Phase I trial of their mRNA personalized cancer vaccine, mRNA-4157.

      Remember that the fast-tracking of mRNA-based “vaccines” was done under “Operation Warp Speed” – a US military operation.

      What if the people in charge were operating under the following scenario:

      The earth’s magnetic field is weakening
      We are entering a Grand Solar Minimum
      Galactic Cosmic Rays, electronically charged bacteria and viruses coming from space will pose an increasing threat
      Declining solar irradiance will lead to a decline in surface temperatures
      A Little Ice Age is a possibility
      Global crop failures, famines, epidemics (local, regional) and pandemics (international) could follow


      Harvest and preserve DNA prior to the onset of the Grand Solar Minimum.
      – Harvest and study DNA going forward in an attempt to observe and mitigate, if needed, significant changes to the human genome.

      Harvest and preserve seeds prior to the onset of the Grand Solar Minimum
      – See the Svalbard Global Seed Vault in Norway. Illuminated art piece at entrance is titled “Perpetual Repercussion.” Perpetual, as in the people in charge are aware that the Earth faces a never-ending threat (cyclical nature of Grand Solar Minimums, Ice Ages).

      Accelerate mRNA-based therapies to address Galactic Cosmic Rays, electronically charged bacteria and viruses coming from space. Develop tailor-made mRNA-based cancer treatments.

      Initiate travel restrictions and “Green” agendas to facilitate the clearing of the skies to enable as much sunlight to reach the surface as possible.
      – Travel restrictions also facilitate the monitoring of various global populations in relative isolation as they undergo any genetic changes.
      – Increased possibility of further correlating epidemics with localized weak spots in the magnetic field.

      Push for vegetarian and vegan-based diets in an effort to mitigate the damage to the global food supply if livestock are increasingly threatened and decimated by Galactic Cosmic Rays, electronically charged bacteria and viruses.
      – Ice Age conditions could also result in fauna extinctions (flora extinctions too, but flora require less energy to produce for human consumption).
      – A challenging situation: humans subsisting on mushrooms, moss and algae in the various ancient cave systems located throughout the world; cave systems which were probably used as emergency shelters during past global catastrophes (see the Derinkuyu underground city in Turkey).

      Finally, I’m reminded of Trump’s peculiar contrarian comment during a panel discussion on the California wildfires:

      Trump: “It’ll start getting cooler. You just watch.”

      Panelist: “I wish science agreed with you.”

      Trump: “Well, I don’t think science knows, actually.”


      I think these two men are discussing the corrupted, compromised and corporate-owned “SCIENCE” rather than conclusions arrived at via the scientific method. The difference between them is that Trump seems to be aware that he is conversing with a member of a cargo cult (or at least a man who is invoking the authority of a cargo cult).

      Regardless of your politics, Trump is such a polarizing figure that if he were to speak the truth many people would completely disregard it. This situation allows for the people in charge to say “Well, we did warn you via the President of the United States” while taking comfort in the fact that there would be no mass panic or revolutionary efforts because they chose the most boorish messenger possible.

      • MM says:

        I have been to this place:

        In one room it has 2 clocks.
        One of day time and one of zodiac time.
        Also in pompeji they found the zodiac on walls

        The thing is that “we” do not know the concept of “time”.
        They know-
        They told us that “astrology” is herecy.
        We believed it and did not dig deeper.
        We even destroyed the knowledge for our masters:

        It is known that Newton Gauss and a lot of others were astronomers.

        Well. We have not yet any idea of time, because we die unknowing.
        Dynasties have a larger vision of time.

        Destroy families so there exists no such thing as a “lineage” ?

        Get us atomised!
        Even if such a thing as an atom does not exist as THEY know.


        I stil suffer from the scars on the souls of my ancestors,

        • Fast Eddy says:

          I been there… did you see the pillar where I scratched Fast Eddy was Here 1687 (I actually wasn’t there in that year because I think I was in the New World already… but I put that date because if I put a contemporary date they’d know it was graffiti and erase it

      • MM says:

        Well about Trump i can only say one thing:

        To delete Trump’s twitter accounnt is: “Substantive: historical misrepresentation”

        This is Orwelll in plain sight.
        Everything is in plain sight!
        Everybody can see it.
        Everybody can decide.

        Decide and go for it!
        You are free!

      • hillcountry says:

        Azure, that’s a well-logic’d scenario for sure; very insightful contextual analysis. It could well answer Fast Eddy’s CEP-visions. It sure puts elite-action in a survival context not generally discussed. It also adds some flesh on Ronald Reagan’s observation that if there were a threat to the whole planet, it would bring all nations together to counter it. (Planet X Nibiru was a comical distraction for years thereafter).

        Just a few years prior to that comment and all the work on detente with Gorbachev, there was a whole issue of National Geographic devoted to the coming Ice Age. 1975 I think it was. It was really interesting to witness the shift to the Global Warming thesis that followed shortly thereafter. It was like 1975 was the pinnacle; Peak Ice Age Theory. That just reminded me that I had a geology professor in 1971 who spent half the semester talking about Peak Oil. I recall that he was very enamored of the philosophical pessimism of Arthur Schopenhauer who died in 1860 and who influenced the thinking of so many who came after him.

        I was a fan of Julian Jaynes way back and always thought his thesis in The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind tied in closely with archeological and geophysical evidence of great catastrophic episodes on Earth. Immanuel Velikovsky (who got a lot of things right and some wrong) spoke of a traumatic induction of collective amnesia; one I think underlies cautionary pessimism. Almost as if it’s in our genetic make-up at this point; after losing so many cultures over so many cataclysms. I imagine there are still utopian-minded elites grappling with their more cynical brethren over which way this thing is going to go. The natural human reaction to a vast threat surely is visible in that seed-vault in Norway and preservation of human genetics may parallel that effort. I’ve seen a lot of videos that show Ultra-Violet C is getting to the surface of Earth and that is probably the least of our worries.

        I had lunch with Richard Sauder a couple of years before he went completely off-the-rez. He lectured us for 3 hours non-stop on Deep Underground tunnels, high-speed rail down below, city-like nodes, and where the missing $trillions prior to 911 actually went. I had read his books in the 90’s and it was a hoot to actually hang-out with him for an afternoon. He was paranoid in very quiet way, checking out other tables, especially single-seaters. Like TPTB would really care. It wasn’t like he was threating to arrange tours. If he did have ‘escorts’, they were probably just trying to keep him safe. Maybe those kinds of revelations are best communicated by people who are as you say ‘boorish’ and in other cases not granted much credibility. I never bought the thing where “they have to tell us in advance because ….”, other than in the sense that they’ve been ‘riding herd’ so long they surely have a pretty good handle on how much subtle versus how much cattle-prod.

        You could write a novel with all of those connections you’re making. Maybe a Ludlum-style fiction, just so it sells really well. Imagine, a NYT best-seller, just on the eve of galactic illumination. Maybe they’d even give you access to one of those underground high-speed trains, as they shuttle you to various book-promotion locations.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Thanks for this reference… sadly not on Audible… some excellent summaries in the reviews here https://www.amazon.com/Origin-Consciousness-Breakdown-Bicameral-Mind/dp/0618057072

          I recall watching this some time ago and thinking… these men sounds like robots… apparently our consciousness continues to evolve… Fast Eddy and his few acolytes are perhaps the pinnacle – The Enlightened Ones????


          Sometimes when trying to explain rather simple concepts to humans (e.g. CEP, Peak Oil, how renewables and Evs are BS, how Elon is Messiah-designate)… they respond as would a dog… or a cow… blank stares… now is that a product of the remnants of a primitive thought process (lack of consciousness)… or is it caused by the PR boys…. or maybe the PR boys are able to tap into the primitive mind using various strategies…

          I seldom read books but I will order Jayne’s book.

        • Azure Kingfisher says:

          hillcountry, I’m leaning more and more toward the notion of cyclical catastrophe as the evidence continues to surface. Various underground cities across the globe, surface structures that appear to have suffered extreme temperatures (see the Colossi of Memnon), an ancient emphasis on astronomy and calendaring (for agricultural purposes, certainly, but also for keeping a safety watch), and so on.

          I think there have been multiple advanced civilizations throughout time and we in the present are part of but one possible expression (always subject to contemporary environmental constraints, of course). I suspect prior expressions were in some ways more technologically advanced than we are; or perhaps alternatively they were more aligned with nature and energy flows and didn’t approach the subjects we discuss here on Our Finite World from the same point of view (for example, what to do with surplus energy in its various forms. We built highways, skyscrapers, cars, planes, etc. Would they have chosen to do the same?).

          I’ve run across Jaynes’ Bicameral Mind theory and agree it is compelling in the context of cyclical catastrophe. I haven’t read his book but appreciate a reminder to in the form of your reply.

          I’m not sure if you’re familiar with Tim Cullen’s “Malaga Bay” site, but your reference to Velikovsky reminded me of the following post titled, “Comet Venus: the Shrinking Violet”:

          “Overall, the observational data suggests Venus and Mars have noticeably shrunk in the last 250 years and that the shrinkage could have been more significant in the longer term.

          “Note the data shows Jupiter and Saturn expanding.

          “Arguably, the observed shrinkage of Venus and Mars was caused by the loss of opaque atmosphere rather than a reduction in the size of the underlying rocky planet.

          “The observed shrinkage implies Velikovsky’s Comet Venus became the shrinking violet known today as Planet Venus.”


          I don’t know that the people in charge necessarily “have” to tell the public in advance of their schemes, but perhaps selectively disclosing elements of truth makes the burden of secrecy easier to bear and pacifies those who would seek to be the saviors of mankind.

          I’m not sure I could expend the effort at drafting a fictional narrative based on my speculations above. The implications seem far too dark to spend prolonged time with and writing a novel would require spending a lot of time immersed in such ideas.
          Additionally, if the future does entail mankind attempting to eke out a living underground – an endeavor led by the currently rich, powerful and famous and their dynastic families – would one really want to be invited to join that club? Better to be among the free; like the mysterious surface dwellers in E. M. Forster’s “The Machine Stops”:

          “But Kuno, is it true? Are there still men on the surface of the earth? Is this–tunnel, this poisoned darkness–really not the end?”
          He replied:
          “I have seen them, spoken to them, loved them. They are hiding in the midst and the ferns until our civilization stops. Today they are Homeless–tomorrow–”
          “Oh, tomorrow–some fool will start the Machine again, tomorrow.”
          “Never,” said Kuno, “never. Humanity has learnt its lesson.”

        • JMS says:

          Luckily we can test today the present accuracy of Richard Sauder’s fears (coming war), as he some weeks ago profetized that:

          “Next Wednesday, 21 April 2021, Vladimir Putin is scheduled to make a major address to the Russian people and national government. In light of the large, ongoing build-up of troops and war materiel by NATO + the USSA + the Ukraine on and near Russian borders, it is entirely possible (likely?) that President Putin will announce to the Russian nation that war is imminent, that it will be a large war, and that Russia will aggressively fight to win, because the invasion and subjugation of Russia by NATO + the USSA + the Ukraine would mean the end of Russia, and he will never permit that.”

          • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

            Orlov, who is rarely good but is very good on the topic of Mother Russia, has predicted that Putin will announce a mass evacuation of the few million Russian citizens living in eastern Ukraine.

            win/win for Putin as this would empty out the problematic border area, and provide Russia with desperately needed workers.

            almost Wednesday, soon we’ll know.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            Standing by!!!! A nice big fat war at this point … would feed my adrenaline addiction …

            Boom go the Bombs!

  22. Harry McGibbs says:

    “North Korean soldiers deployed on the border with China to ensure the anti-pandemic blockade are starving, writes Daily NK citing its own sources from the province of Chagang.

    “According to the publication linked to the Ministry of Unification of South Korea, North Korean troops of the Seventh Corps and the “Storm” corps received regular supplies of food until March. Since April, stocks have decreased in quality and quantity.”


    • Harry McGibbs says:

      “North Korea has more nuclear weapons than ever. What should Biden do?

      “After decades of sanctions, threats and diplomacy, including Trump’s showy summits, North Korea has more nukes than ever and missiles that can hit the U.S.”


    • Starving soldiers would suggest that the anti pandemic blockade can’t really be kept up. The soldiers themselves will be very vulnerable because of their poor nutrition.

      • Duncan Idaho says:

        “Democratically elected governments subverted and overthrown by the United States in Panama (1941), Syria (1949), Iran (1953), Guatemala (1954), Congo (1960), Brazil (1964), Chile (1973), Honduras (2009) and Egypt (2013). And this list does not include a host of other governments that, however despotic, as was the case in South Vietnam, Indonesia or Iraq, were viewed as inimical to American interests and destroyed, in each case making life for the inhabitants of these countries even more miserable.”

        Maybe there is hope?

        • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

          Ukraine 2014.

          who was the US president?

          and especially, who was VP?

          • MM says:

            Ukraine 2014:
            visted by Joe Biden.
            On the heaps of Maidan.

            Joe Biden also vsited “Moldovia” to pormote “independence”

            get yourslef rid of a “president” !

            yes, google is evil but it does not construct reality!
            Something callled reality exists somehow.

            Well… we will dig into this later….

  23. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Even as supply lines strain, Biden is in no rush to scrap Trump’s steel tariffs…

    “State-backed mills in China are flooding the global market with so much subsidized steel that American producers say they can not compete without government protection.”


  24. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Large euro zone banks have been underreporting their risky assets by 275 billion euros by using their own models to quantify potential losses, the European Central Bank said on Monday.


  25. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Will Inflation Trip Up Emerging Economies? …A …pernicious side-effect of inflation …is the impact of food prices on emerging economies… One way to think about this is to consider the UN FAO world food price index which since 2015 has hovered around the 100 level, but in the past six months has jumped to 120.

    “This move, should it persist, represents a high, large cost to families in the emerging world (who spend a large share of their disposable income on food staples).”


  26. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Rising defaults have prompted India to tighten oversight of corporate bond sales, causing issuance to slump in a blow to a long-sought goal of expanding the market.

    “Offerings of rupee notes have fallen to 43.8 billion rupees ($584 million) this month, the slowest start to a financial year since 2008.”


    • Harry McGibbs says:

      “[India’s] bankers fear the lockdown-like curbs, including curfews, travel restrictions and mall shutdowns, are likely to hurt borrowers, triggering a second wave of defaults.

      “Without a repayment moratorium like the one announced by the RBI last year, the defaults are likely to pinch banks harder.”


    • Last year, one Bloomberg headline from India (May 17, 2020) was India plans to suspend new bankruptcy filings for year amid corornavirus crisis

      India won’t allow most companies to be tipped into bankruptcy for a year as authorities try to contain the economic fallout of the coronavirus outbreak.

      Finance Minister Nirmala Sitharaman announced the plan Sunday as part of her speech to revive economic activity. Also, the minimum threshold to initiate insolvency proceedings have been raised to 10 million rupees ($132,000) from 100,000 rupees previously, and will largely insulate small businesses, she said.

      The move risks delaying the clean up of the world’s worst stressed-loan ratio as creditors will be forced into lengthy debt resolution negotiations outside the bankruptcy framework.

      The measures will help small business who were “reaching a stage of bankruptcy,” Sitharaman told reporters in New Delhi.

      India likely has a huge hidden debt problem right now.

      • Robert Firth says:

        Faced with the alarming possibility of the free market actually working, India did what incompetent governments always do: shut it down.

  27. Harry McGibbs says:

    “China facing economic crisis as population peak nears, PBOC adviser says.

    “Consumption set to slump after population tops out in 2025, says Cai Fang, a member of the central bank’s monetary policy committee.”


    • Harry McGibbs says:

      “China reported record year-over-year growth of 18.3% in the first three months of 2021.

      “But the more telling figure might be the economy’s 0.6% expansion compared with the quarter before–a historically sluggish pace that suggests momentum is slowing, one year into China’s coronavirus recovery.”


    • Part of China’s problem is a very early retirement age:


       The current statutory retirement age in China is 60 years for male workers, 55 years for female cadres and 50 years for female workers.  Cadre is a general term for civil servants working in the government, public institutions and state-owned enterprises.  Labor regulations do not differentiate between male cadre and male workers.

      Also, according the to the same article, the number of birth’s in China in 2020 is estimated to be 10.035 million in 2020, compared with 11.8 million in 2019. The birth rate for 2019, at 10.48 live births per 1000 people, was the lowest since the People’s Republic of China was formed in 1949.

  28. Fast Eddy says:

    Chile still recorded an average of 377 new infections per one million of population on Thursday despite having given out 67 vaccine doses per 100 people – the equivalent of 40 percent of the population having received at least one vaccine dose and 27 percent having been fully vaccinated.

    The same phenomenon is happening in Bahrain (60 doses per 100 people as of April 15) and Qatar (41 doses).


    • Chili’s deaths are still about as high as the EU’s. Its new cases almost double the average level of US new cases.

      Qatar and Bahrain’s deaths are significantly lower than those of Chili and the US, but trending upward recently.

      Baharain’s new cases are especially high relative to the population. They are about 3.5 times as high as the US’s level today, and a little over double the EU’s average level of new cases.

      • The mix of vaccines may be different among countries, too. Bahrain approved a Chinese vaccine back in December that doesn’t work very well. It also uses some of Johnson’s & Johnsons’s.

        Chili used a number of vaccines I associate with lower effective rates. It is starting to use some Pfizer vaccine, but this played a relatively small role early on.

        . . . experts also noted the country [Chili] put a particularly big bet on the Beijing-based pharmaceutical company Sinovac, which manufactures the Coronavac vaccine. Cristóbal Cuadrado, an assistant professor at the school of public health at the Universidad de Chile, told me that this was a bit of a gamble on Chile’s part, though it has paid off.

  29. Fast Eddy says:

    Denying the Demonic

    In March of last year as the coronavirus panic was starting, I wrote a somewhat flippant article saying that the obsession with buying and hoarding toilet paper was the people’s vaccine.

    My point was simple: excrement and death have long been associated in cultural history and in the Western imagination with the evil devil, Satan, the Lord of the underworld, the Trickster, the Grand Master who rules the pit of smelly death, the place below where bodies go.

    The psychoanalytic literature is full of examples of death anxiety revealed in anal dreams of shit-filled overflowing toilets and people pissing in their pants. Ernest Becker put it simply in The Denial of Death:

    No mistake – the turd is mankind’s real threat because it reminds people of death.

    The theological literature is also full of warnings about the devil’s wiles. So too the Western classics from Aeschylus to Melville. The demonic has an ancient pedigree and has various names. Rational people tend to dismiss all this as superstitious nonsense. This is hubris. The Furies always exact their revenge when their existence is denied. For they are part of ourselves, not alien beings, as the tragedy of human history has shown us time and again.

    Since excremental visions and the fear of death haunt humans – the skull at the banquet as William James put it – the perfect symbol of protection is toilet paper that will keep you safe and clean and free of any reminder of the fear of death running through a panicked world. It’s a magic trick of course, an unconscious way of thinking you are protecting yourself; a form of self-hypnosis.

    One year later, magical thinking has taken a different form and my earlier flippancy has turned darker. You can’t hoard today’s toilet paper but you can get them: RNA inoculations, misnamed vaccines. People are lined up for them now as they are being told incessantly to “get your shot.” They are worse than toilet paper. At least toilet paper serves a practical function.

    Real vaccines, as the word’s etymology – Latin, vaccinus, from cows, the cowpox virus vaccine first used by British physician Edward Jenner in 1800 to prevent smallpox – involve the use of a small amount of a virus. The RNA inoculations are not vaccines. To say they are is bullshit and has nothing to do with cows. To call them vaccines is linguistic mind control.

    These experimental inoculations do not prevent the vaccinated from getting infected with the “virus” nor do they prevent transmission of the alleged virus. When they were approved recently by the FDA that was made clear. The FDA issued Emergency Use Authorizations (EUAs) for these inoculations only under the proviso that they may make an infection less severe. Yet millions have obediently taken a shot that doesn’t do what they think it does. What does that tell us?

    Hundreds of millions of people have taken an injection that allows a bio-reactive “gene-therapy” molecule to be injected into their bodies because of fear, ignorance, and a refusal to consider that the people who are promoting this are evil and have ulterior motives. Not that they mean well, but that they are evil and have evil intentions. Does this sound too extreme? Radically evil? Come on!

    So what drives the refusal to consider that demonic forces are at work with the corona crisis?


  30. Fast Eddy says:

    America’s oil production will never again reach the record 13 million barrels a day set earlier this year, just before the pandemic devastated global demand, according to Occidental Petroleum Corp.


    Covid was a god-send … if not for Covid we’d have hit $300 oil in 2020 and Boom goes the world

    • In notice that Occidental was saying that US oil was past peak back in October 2020. It is still an important thing to note–it is not just Shell saying that its own production will be down.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Of course they claim they are down because we are transitioning to green energy …

        ‘Oh oil … we could extract a LOT more … but we no longer need to .. because we’ve made the transition to EVs in a big way .. the future is bright and green and wonderful!’

        And the cattle smile … and the cattle continue to munch grass… not seeing the wolves coming though the breach in the fence….

        • hillcountry says:

          Thought they were ‘Angels of Mercy’. Must be the dyslexia. Not to feed the bonfire of your CEP Thesis, but I did register something that was subliminal for a couple of months. City workers are staking-out new grave sites in a nearby cemetery. Lots of them. In between old graves, numbered stakes, at least 200 so far. The process was slow at first and what strikes me as odd is that the long hill near the highly-trafficked road, which has lots of open space remaining, is not staked at all, nor the first part of the main drive-in road. On a walk-through today I realized that very few of the 200+ stakes are visible from the road. Seems like maybe someone is expecting a lot of deaths? If so, are city fathers being prompted? Be interesting to visit other cemeteries to compare notes.

          • I wouldn’t worry about it. It is cheaper to use already purchased land (or to conserve the land you have by filling the land densely) than to use another location. Also, if you are hiring people to help you with this project, you probably want to do quite a few at a time.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Like Dr Hodkinson says… there is no way you can stop a virus from spreading.

        Here in NZ there is no covid — however as we can see when even a single infection gets through … we immediately go into red alert and quickly lock the region down. If we did not then the ‘flu’ would soon spread far and wide…

        Two choices – stay locked down until covid somehow disappears (that’s like praying for the flu to disappear….) or open up .. and deal with it…

        Because there ain’t never gonna be no vaccine for a coronavirus… that stops you from catching it… never… even the flu virus is limited in its efficacy…

        At some point NZ must open up — and Covid will do what it will do…


  31. Fast Eddy says:

    “Dr. Roger Hodkinson summarises it all (again)” – Watch the Canadian pathologist deliver a very clear message for the Government of Alberta: “Open Up”


    Dr. Roger Hodkinson, MA, MB (Cambridge UK), FCAP, FRCPC
    Executive Chairman

    Dr. Hodkinson is a broadly experienced clinical pathologist who holds medical degrees from Cambridge University in the United Kingdom. Prior to his association with MutantDx, he was the CEO of Stirrat Laboratories, a large retail diagnostic medical laboratory in Alberta, Canada. Dr. Hodkinson is a Past President of the Alberta Society of Laboratory Physicians (ASLP), which represents pathologists in Alberta, Canada, and was a key player in the restructuring of the $250M diagnostic laboratory industry in that Province. He has acted as a laboratory accreditation inspector, and was previously Chairman of the Examination Committee in General Pathology for the Royal College of Physicians of Canada. He is a Fellow of the College of American Pathologists and has been the Medical Director of a CLIA laboratory. Dr. Hodkinson is a co-author of publications based on MultiGEN technology.

  32. Azure Kingfisher says:

    Send in the shills!

    • Azure Kingfisher says:

      Above comment in response to Fast Eddy’s post on the NBC “Roll Up Your Sleeves” TV special.

  33. Fast Eddy says:

    This is kinda like having a WMD TV Special… and a WMD concert…. but most people won’t see that… (cuz they are so f789ing stooopid!)

    They really really REALLY want people to get vaxxed with this experiment …when it doesn’t stop people from getting covid – and only old/feeble dog dicks die of it…

    Really REALLY REALLY REALLY…. I wonder why?????

    Does anyone find this hilarious? I am keen to watch the teevee special – wonder if that will be streamed… of course it will be …

    The Obamas, Shaq, J-Lo, Biden and Others Set for TV Special Promoting COVID Vaccines

    President Joe Biden will be joined by the Obamas and a cast of celebrities this weekend for a TV special promoting COVID-19 vaccinations.

    Biden, 78, will appear along with former President Barack Obama and former First Lady Michelle Obama for the NBC “Roll Up Your Sleeves” special on Sunday night, Deadline first reported.

    Stars from the worlds of sports, TV, music and movies will also join the lineup Sunday to encourage Americans to get vaccinated.

    Matthew McConaughey will be interviewing Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation’s leading federal health expert on infectious diseases.

    NBA legends Shaquille O’Neal and Charles Barkley will also appear as will the likes of Jennifer Lopez, Lin-Manuel Miranda, Faith Hill, Eva Longoria, Joe Jonas and more.

    The one-hour special will be hosted by Seattle Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson and his wife, Ciara, ATTN announced.

    ATTN, the production company behind the event, said in a press release the event “aims to educate viewers, raise awareness and dispel concerns surrounding the COVID-19 vaccines, all with the goal of increasing vaccination rates to put an end to the pandemic.”

    The special was announced the same day a musical event, hosted by Selena Gomez, was announced for May 8. That special will be pre-taped at So-Fi Stadium in Los Angeles, according to The Hollywood Reporter, and will feature acts like Lopez, Foo Fighters and H.E.R.

    The May 8 special — Vax Live: The Concert to Reunite the World — will air across multiple networks, including ABC, CBS and Fox, and on YouTube.

    • Duncan Idaho says:

      When people behave unselfishly, it is an inherent challenge to the worldview of those who believe everyone is as selfish as they are. They have to render it false or fake somehow. That’s what the whole “virtue signaling” thing is about.

      • Tim Groves says:

        No need to render it false or fake in this case. Anything the media and the celebrities get up to on this scale and with this much fanfare is bound to be false and fake by definition. And anything involving Dr. Anthony Fauci is doubly so. This is a hundred percent signaling with zero virtue involved.

        “One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.”

        —Carl Sagan

        Carl is talking about all of us in general, the credulous laity, because we are all laity in many fields. We are a poor and stupid people; always singing, always dancing, always getting captured by the bamboozle.

  34. Tulsi Gabbard Believes Ukraine War Could Lead to Nuclear War

  35. Weird Skin Reaction to Pfizer Vaccine

  36. How Pfizer Became the Status Vax

    Last week, on a phone call with Tom Cox, a former representative in the Kansas state Legislature who now works in government relations, I told him I was soon to get my first dose of the Pfizer vaccine.

    “Welcome to the ruling class,” he replied. Cox had also gotten the Pfizer shot, and with it, he has lately developed—facetiously, he swears—a sense of Pfizer superiority.

    It started after he, his closest friends, and his immediate family all happened to get the Pfizer vaccine. “We started calling ourselves ‘double-dosed Pfizer elites,’ ” Cox said. “I will refer to anyone who’s had one dose as a ‘one-doser.’ Like, ‘Oh, you’re a one-doser? OK, well, you’ll reach this enlightened plane soon enough.’ ”

    “One of my cousins got Moderna, and I was like, ‘That’s OK. We need a strong middle class. We can’t all be CEOs.’ ”

    Cox is likely not the first Pfizerphile you’ve heard sing his vaccine brand’s praises. Pro-Pfizer sentiment is all over TikTok, where you can find skits of bros bonding over their shared Pfizer status, or one creator declaring that the name itself “Sounds rich. Decadent. Luxury!”

    Olajide Bamishigbin, a psychology professor in California, was on a similar wavelength recently when he tweeted a GIF of SpongeBob SquarePants dressed in a top hat and monocle alongside the words, “Me when somebody says they got any vaccine other than Pfizer.”

    The Pfizer superiority complex is at once a joke and a real phenomenon. But is it affecting the vaccine rollout? “Even though I think that we have this instinct that’s out there”—the belief that Pfizer is the elite shot—“it still feels more playful than really driving outcomes,” said Manuel Hermosilla, a professor of marketing at Johns Hopkins’ Carey Business School who studies the pharmaceutical industry. He said he thinks people understand that getting whatever vaccine you can should trump any brand preference—though it’s unclear how this week’s news about the Johnson & Johnson vaccine could change that equation. On Tuesday, U.S. health agencies recommended a pause in administration of the J&J vaccine, after six women developed a rare blood clot disorder within weeks of receiving the shot. In all likelihood, this pause will be temporary. (Hermosilla, like most of this article’s sources, spoke to Slate before the J&J pause took effect.)

    • Ed says:

      I feel superior having original un-moded human DNA.

      • Duncan Idaho says:

        The moral is, pick your stupidity wisely.
        “Denying evolution makes you look like an idiot, but physically leaves you unharmed. Denying climate change might kill your descendants, but you’ll probably make it. But thinking COVID is a hoax can be fatal. And so it was for Hans Kristian Gaarder. On April 6th he died — aged 60 — of COVID.”

        I don’t know– gets rid of the less fit and might increase our intelligence as a species.

        • Dennis L. says:

          It would be informative to know if he had other health issues.

          Dennis L.

        • Tim Groves says:

          Denying climate change might kill your descendants, but eliminating the combustion of all fossil fuels is guaranteed to do just that.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          For every one of those I can find a thousand CovIDIOTS who asked to be injected with an experiment falsely believed it would prevent them from catching covid … who either died or became horribly ill because of the injection.

          I don’t think anyone who is refusing the Lethal Injection .. is saying that Covid does not exist or that people are not dying from it…

          Of course people are dying … old sick buggers like you are dying from it every day… if it weren’t covid it would be the flu .. or heart disease or diabetes or cancer….

          What we are saying shove your f789ing experiment up your a ss.

          If you want to celebrate your MORONISM … take a vaxxie (that’s a selfie but with your vax card) upload it … and wait for other MORE ONS to Like It.


  37. Oops sorry!

    NC Walgreens accidentally gives out dose of saline instead of COVID-19 vaccine

    Monroe, N.C. — Several people in Monroe, North Carolina will have to retake their COVID-19 shots because of a mix-up at a pharmacy.

    A Walgreens store in North Carolina said some people slated to get the COVID-19 vaccine actually received a dose of saline by mistake.

    The pharmacy said it reached out to all the patients who were impacted and rescheduled their vaccines as soon as they were available to come back in. The patients affected will receive their second doses within an appropriate time frame.

    Walgreens is still investigating to find out exactly what happened.

  38. So this is how the rest of the Canada leak will be implemented


    Anand doesn’t rule out using Canada Emergencies Act to help curb COVID-19 third wave

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