The Afghanistan Fiasco (and Today’s High Level of Conflict) Reflect an Energy Problem

There is a saying, “Everything happens for a reason.” The fiasco in Afghanistan is no exception to this rule. Even though it is not obvious, the United States is up against energy limits. It needed to pull back from Afghanistan to try to have enough energy to continue in its other roles, such as providing benefits for its growing army of retirees, and building infrastructure to mitigate the COVID-19 downturn.

The fundamental problem is that governments can add debt and other indirect promises of resources that create goods and services, but they cannot actually create the low-cost energy, water and mineral resources needed to fulfill those promises.

The way energy limits play out is not at all intuitive. Most people assume that we will run out of oil, leading to a spike in oil prices. We will then transition to renewables. As I see it, this understanding is completely wrong. Limited energy supply first leads to a need for simplification: Stepping back from Afghanistan would be one such type of simplification. It would save energy supplies and reduce the need for greater tax revenue or added debt.

In this post, I will try to explain some pieces of the problem.

[1] Afghanistan was, and continues to be, in some sense, a “handicapped country.”

Everyone knows that the way a country can succeed in the world market is by providing needed goods or services to other economies at low cost. Afghanistan is a landlocked country. It also doesn’t have any big rivers it can use to transport goods out of the country. It isn’t a member of a trade alliance such as the EU to allow smooth transport of goods out of the country. The difficulty of transit into and out of the country adds a layer of costs that tends to make the country uncompetitive in the world market. No matter how much investment any country makes in Afghanistan, this handicap will still persist.

Also, Afghanistan has too high a population relative to its resources. We know that most wars are resource wars. The fact that Afghanistan has been involved in wars for many years hints at this problem. According to UN 2019 estimates, Afghanistan’s population was 7.8 million in 1950, 21.6 million in 2001, and 38.9 million in 2020, which is about five times the 1950 population. Water needs, in particular, tend to escalate as population rises.

[2] The US doesn’t know how to fight a guerrilla war.

The weapons developed by the US are too complex to be used in a guerrilla war. They tend to break down and require replacement parts. Needless to say, these parts are not available in Afghanistan. Even if Afghan soldiers are trained to use these weapons, they may not be available or suitable when needed.

George W. Bush should have known from the outcome of the 20-year Vietnam conflict (1955-1975) that any guerrilla war was likely to have a bad ending. In Afghanistan, the plan was to train Afghan soldiers, thus keeping US citizens out of the battlefield. This strategy kept the Afghan conflict off the front page of US newspapers, but the overall result seems to be similar.

[3] When George W. Bush took office in 2001, he seems to have had access to more funds than he knew what to do with. Starting a war in Afghanistan probably seemed like a good use for these funds. He could perhaps build military bases, and perhaps raise the standard of living of the people there.

The price of oil was especially low in the 1998 to 2001 period. This allowed tax revenue to “go farther” in providing benefits to the economy, allowing a temporary budget surplus. With such a surplus, getting funds appropriated for any purpose would likely have been easy.

Figure 1. US Budget Deficits and Surpluses by Year. Chart by Steve Benen. Source.

Even more importantly, with a fairly young population, the Social Security system had been collecting funds in advance of when they were needed, with the plan of building up the plan’s Trust Fund for use when a bulge in retirements was expected, starting about 2010. Figure 2 shows one chart that roughly illustrates the overfunding and planned use for the funds. Unfortunately, Figure 2 doesn’t treat investment income in the way it is actually collected; it leaves out past investment income and uses discounted cash flow assumptions for the future, so a person cannot readily estimate net contributions to the Trust Fund balance by year from this chart.

Figure 2. Forecast of Social Security surpluses and deficits. Chart by Peter G. Peterson Foundation, based on Social Security Administration, The 2020 Annual Report of the Board of Trustees of the Federal Old-Age and Survivors Insurance and Federal Disability Trust Funds. Source.

Figure 2 indicates that there was considerable overfunding starting in the late 1980s. The thing that actuaries (and others) didn’t consider is the fact that there is a real difference between debt and the physical resources that will be needed when these older people retire. Retirees will need food, water and energy to heat their homes. They will need medicine and long term care institutions. They should also be able to provide their share of the upkeep of roads and electricity transmission networks.

Debt is a promise of future funds to purchase goods and services, but it doesn’t make the resources required to create these goods and services materialize out of “thin air.” To keep these promises, oil needs to be extracted, refined, and delivered to farmers. There needs to be enough fresh water available to irrigate adequate farmland to produce the required food. There need to be supply lines that are working to deliver the required food. There need to be enough young people who are willing to work on farms and in care centers for the aged. The wages for these young workers need to be high enough so that they too can have food, shelter and other things that we consider necessities.

When the extra Social Security funds were collected, the officials who collected them figured out that as a practical matter, there was little that they could do with them besides spend them at the time they were collected. They couldn’t set up warehouses with food, clothing, building materials and energy resources to keep on hand for 30 or 40 years. If they invested the money in the stock market, the money would simply cause a bubble in stock prices. If they built new factories or nursing homes, they would be unfairly competing with existing businesses.

I am not sure that there is any good record of how these extra funds were spent. My understanding is that they provided a very large slush fund that allowed expanded military activities among other things. From an accounting point of view, non-marketable government debt was substituted for the funds that were spent. Thus, when an actuary looks at the Trust Fund, it is fully funded. It is just that it is funded with more US government debt.

The catch is that the non-marketable US government debt doesn’t actually correspond to any resources. Any food used in 2022 (or 2050) will need to be grown in that year, using resources available in that year. Most clothing used in a given year will need to be produced with resources available at that time. Putting together a model that assumes business as usual forever tends to give a rosy picture because it leaves out this detail.

The 2020 OSDAI Trustees Report provides actual income, outgo, and interest income through 2019. From this report, it can be concluded that the extra Social Security slush fund is rapidly disappearing. In fact, it seems to be turning to a hidden source of required year-by-year funding starting as soon as 2020 or 2021.

In some sense, the “real economy” operates on a “cash basis,” rather than an “accrual basis.” This has not been recognized in our accounting or our models. Ignoring the way the system really works likely leads to a hidden crunch, starting about 2021. We know that retirements were high in 2020, adding to the potential problem. I am certain that President Biden and his advisors are aware of this issue, even though it is never reported on the front pages of newspapers.

[4] There is really a two-sided energy price problem. Consumers can afford only low energy prices but, as the result of depletion and population growth in oil exporting countries, producers need high oil prices.

Figure 3 is a chart I prepared a few years ago. In it, there is a pattern of rapidly rising wages when oil prices were very low. Workers became more productive with new factory equipment and vehicles, produced with oil, and operated using oil products. As a result, their wages rose.

Figure 3. Average wages in 2017$ compared to Brent oil price, also in 2017$. Oil prices in 2017$ are from BP Statistical Review of World Energy 2018. Average wages are total wages based on BEA data adjusted by the GDP price deflator, divided by total population. Thus, they reflect changes in the proportion of the population employed as well as changes in wage levels.

On the other hand, when oil prices spiked, the prices of many goods, including food, airline tickets, and the fuel used for commuting to work, rose. People cut back on discretionary income, such as eating in restaurants and vacation travel. Businesses with fewer customers laid off workers. The workers who could find jobs often found lower-paid or part time jobs. The result was a dip in average wages, both in the 1970s and at the time of the Great Recession of 2007-2009.

We now live in a world with depleted resources. The oil and other types of energy that are available are high in cost, but the prices tend to stay too low for producers when all costs are included. Oil resources from the Middle East and Venezuela, especially, need a higher oil price because the governments of these countries need very high taxes on oil revenue to support their large populations. Even shale oil from the United States needs a higher price than is available today.

If we want OPEC to supply the rest of the world with more oil, the price will need to rise much higher than today’s Brent oil price of about $73. It likely will need to rise to at least $100 per barrel and show that it can stay at this high level. Otherwise, the supposed reserves of OPEC will mostly stay in the ground.

Even the US needs a higher oil price. Its oil, gas and coal production fell during the pandemic in 2020. Through May 2021 (and even later using weekly data, not shown), oil and natural gas production has not rebounded to the 2019 level.

Figure 4. US fossil fuel average daily production by month through May 2021, based on data from the US Energy Information Administration. NGPL means natural gas plant liquids. NGPL are extracted with natural gas but condensed out and sold as liquids.

Note that oil and gas production also dipped in 2016. Figure 3 shows that oil prices were also low then. If prices are too low, would-be producers leave them in the ground.

Adding in nuclear and renewables (hydroelectric, ethanol, wood, wind, solar and geothermal) still leaves a large dip in recent production.

Figure 5. US average daily production by type based on data of the US Energy Information Administration.

President Biden is no doubt aware of the fact that the US’s production of energy products, especially crude oil, is now low. In fact, earlier in August he asked OPEC and its allies to increase their oil production to try to keep prices from rising too much. Why would OPEC want to increase its production, if the US can’t increase its own production at the current price level? All of the producers need a higher price level; it is consumers who cannot afford the higher price level.

[5] The world seems to have already begun shifting to a falling energy consumption per capita situation.

The amount of energy required tends to rise with population because all of the people require food, housing and transportation. Energy, especially oil and coal, are needed for these.

Figure 6. Energy consumption per capita for all energy sources combined based on data from BP’s Statistical Review of Energy 2021.

Many countries, including the United States, have been able to hold down their internal energy consumption per capita by moving much of their industry to China and India.

Figure 7. US energy consumption per capita, divided between industrial and other, based on information of the US Energy Information Administration. Energy consumption includes both electricity and fuels such as oil, coal, natural gas, ethanol and wood burned for heat. All transportation fuels are in the “Ex. Industrial” portion.

Figure 7 shows that US industrial production reached its peak in 1973, which was shortly after US oil production started to turn down in 1971. This partly reflects auto manufacturing moving to Japan and Europe, where smaller, more fuel-efficient cars were already being sold. Home heating and electricity generation also shifted away from oil to other fuels.

The issue now is that “Ex. Industrial” consumption has been falling since the Great Recession. In some sense, the economy has been losing strength since 2008 and continues to lose strength. Fewer and fewer people can feel like they are really getting ahead. They are saddled with low wage jobs and too much debt.

Figure 8 shows similar patterns for the European Union and Japan. Energy consumption per capita was rising until a few years before the Great Recession, and then it plateaued. It has been declining since.

Figure 8. Energy consumption per capita for the European Union and Japan from BP’s 2021 Statistical Review of World Energy.

The pattern shown on Figure 8 suggests that energy prices are still too high for consumers, even though they are, at the same time, too low for producers. Travel restrictions imposed by governments may also be contributing to this pattern.

GDP data indications are prepared on an accrual basis. In other words, they reflect the impact of added debt. If missing energy can be replaced with a promise of debt to pay for more goods and services in the future, made with future energy, then perhaps all will be well. The quantity of debt that is required, relative to the GDP impact, keeps rising, suggesting this substitution is not working very well.

Figure 9. Dollars of additional debt required to add $1 dollar of GDP growth (including inflation), based on data of the US Bureau of Economic Analysis.

With the addition of growing amounts of debt, GDP increases are reported to be much larger than expected growth, based only on the growth in energy consumption.

Figure 10. Average annual increase in energy consumption for the period shown based on EIA data versus average increase in real (inflation-adjusted) GDP for the period shown, based on data of the US Bureau of Economic Analysis.

[6] We now seem to be reaching the end of the line with respect to what can be done with added debt to make the economy seem like it is performing adequately well.

Interest rates show a very distinct pattern. They rise until about 1981, and then they decline.

Figure 11. US 10-year and 3-month interest rates through July 2021, in a chart prepared by FRED.

When the US economy was growing rapidly, it could withstand high and rising interest rates. Since 1981, the general pattern has been one of falling interest rates, making a larger quantity of debt affordable. Indirectly, these falling interest rates also helped prop up asset prices, such as those of homes and shares of stock. In recent years, interest rates have fallen about as far as they can go. To some extent, these lower rates were made possible by Quantitative Easing (QE). But at some point, QE needs to be stopped.

Today, interest rates are approximately at the level they were during the Great Depression of the 1930s. This makes sense; interest rates to some extent reflect the return an investor can expect to make. Right now, without a lot of government support programs, “Main Street” businesses around the world are struggling. This indicates that the economy is doing very poorly. There are too many people who cannot afford even basic goods and services. Indirectly, this feeds back to commodity prices that are not high enough for producers of energy products.

Recently, governments of many countries have tried a different approach. Instead of loans, they are providing something closer to giveaways. Renters are allowed to stay rent-free in their apartments. Or, checks are given to all citizens earning below some specified amount. What we seem to be finding is that these giveaways produce inflation in the price of goods that poor people buy most frequently, such as food and used cars.

The giveaways don’t actually produce more of the required goods and services, however. Instead, would-be workers decide that they really don’t want to take a low-paid job if the giveaways provide nearly as much income. The loss of workers then acts to reduce production. With lower production of goods and services, a smaller quantity of oil is required, so the oil price tends to fall. The price certainly does not rise to the level needed by oil producers.

[7] In a finite world, longer-term models need to take into account the fact that resources deplete and the population keeps rising.

Any modeler who tries to take into account the fact that resources deplete and the overall population keeps rising will quickly come to the conclusion that, at some point, every economy will have to collapse. This has been known for a very long time. Back in 1957, Admiral Hyman Rickover of the US Navy said,

Surplus energy provides the material foundation for civilized living – a comfortable and tasteful home instead of a bare shelter; attractive clothing instead of mere covering to keep warm; appetizing food instead of anything that suffices to appease hunger. . .

For it is an unpleasant fact that according to our best estimates, total fossil fuel reserves recoverable at not over twice today’s unit cost, are likely to run out at some time between the years 2000 and 2050, if present standards of living and population growth rates are taken into account.

Now, in 2021, it looks as if this problem is starting to hit us. But no one (since Jimmy Carter, who was not re-elected) has dared tell the general public. Instead, accrual accounting with more and more debt is used in financial statements, including GDP statements. Actuaries put together Social Security funding estimates as if the resources to provide the promised benefits will really be there. Climate change models are prepared as if business as usual can go on for the next hundred years. Everything published by the mainstream media is based on the underlying assumption that we will have no problems other than climate change for the next 100 years.

[8] About all that can be done now is to start cutting back on the less necessary parts of the economy.

President Biden’s abrupt pullout from Afghanistan reflects a reality that increasingly has to take place in the world. The US needs to start pulling back because there are too many people and not enough inexpensive to extract resources to fulfill all of the commitments that the US has made. As mentioned earlier, there are a number of obstacles to success in Afghanistan. Thus, it is a good place to start.

With the need to pull back, there is a much higher level of conflict, both within and between countries. The big issue becomes who, or what, is going to be “voted off the island” next. Is it the elderly or the poor; the military or the oversized US medical establishment; university education for a large share of students or classroom teaching for young children?

We don’t seem to have a good way out of our current predicament. This seems to be what is behind all of the recent internet censorship. Renewables and nuclear require fossil fuel energy for their production and maintenance. The powers that be don’t want anyone to know that nearly all of the “happily ever after using renewables” stories we hear are based on wishful thinking.

About Gail Tverberg

My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
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3,463 Responses to The Afghanistan Fiasco (and Today’s High Level of Conflict) Reflect an Energy Problem

  1. Lastcall says:

    Always watch the language.
    The use of the phrase ‘booster shot’ is very clever.
    The injection has disabled the immune system, the client is now more susceptible to infection, so an additional jab is needed.
    This is not a booster shot, it is a OMG better cover our a@@ shot.
    I don’t think there will be any shot that will repair the damage done.

    • Tim Groves says:

      How does that old Bert Jansch song go again?

      Your masochistic dependence
      On living as a normie
      Has made you turn
      To a needle of death

      Something like that, anyway.

      When sadness fills your heart
      And sorrow hides the longing to be free
      When things go wrong each day
      You fix your mind to ‘scape your misery
      Your troubled young life
      Had made you turn
      To a needle of death

      How strange, your happy words
      Have ceased to bring a smile from everyone
      How tears have filled the eyes
      Of friends that you once had walked among
      Your troubled young life
      Had made you turn
      To a needle of death

      One grain of pure white snow
      Dissolved in blood spread quickly to your brain
      In peace your mind withdraws
      Your death so near your soul can’t feel no pain
      Your troubled young life
      Had made you turn
      To a needle of death

      Your mother stands a’cryin’
      While to the earth your body’s slowly cast
      Your father stands in silence
      Caressing every young dream of the past
      Your troubled young life
      Had made you turn
      To a needle of death

      Through ages, man’s desires
      To free his mind, to release his very soul
      Has proved to all who live
      That death itself is freedom for evermore
      And your troubled young life
      Will make you turn
      To a needle of death

    • Tim Groves says:

      I think that’s a good point about the language “booster shot”, by the way.

      Incidentally, Neil Old, as Mr Young has become, presented himself as a poster boy for the needling campaign in May. On instagram, together with a picture of a goggled and masked old man baring his arm and showing a plaster covering his war wound, he posted the following message:

      1 and I’m done!
      I feel so much better for so many reasons;
      1 – My nurse!
      2 – Anxiety reduced
      3 – Helping others be safe
      4 – Doing what President Trump did!
      5 – Being able to visit family!!!!
      6 – & many more…
      Join me in the worry free zone

      I wonder if Neil will be up for a course of several booster needles per year? I’m pretty sure Eric Clapton won’t be joining him and neither will Charlie Watts, Hank Aaron, Lisa Shaw or the Duke of Edinburgh. But Jesse Jackson, once he gets over his current bout of the Coof, by be up for it.

      https://www.instagram.com/p/CMsHkmZMlVy/?hl=en

  2. Rodster says:

    JMG just posted a really good article on Limits to Growth.

    https://www.ecosophia.net/a-prayer-for-nonbelievers/

    • I agree. From this post:

      I’m far from convinced, however, that the transportation bottlenecks and the labor shortages are responsible all by themselves for the increasingly common sporadic shortages that leave store shelves empty across the United States. One of the reasons I doubt this, in turn, is a famous chart from The Limits to Growth, which is shown below. Up to this point, as studies have shown repeatedly, it’s been more accurate as a model of the global economy than either the optimistic handwaving of its critics or the apocalyptic models brandished about by believers in sudden collapse. Take a good look at it, and notice that the first thing that happens to break the pattern of business as usual is a relatively steep decline in industrial output. [my emphasis – also familiar chart shown]

      I’d like to suggest that the decline in output predicted in this chart is an essential part of what’s driving the cascade of spot shortages at present. Given the nature of today’s global economy, groaning as it is under the burdens of dysfunctional centralization and excess complexity, a flurry of seemingly unrelated shortfalls and delays is exactly how a contraction in industrial output would show up first, as marginal producers of components and raw materials fail to contribute their quotas to the manufacturing sector.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        I was ten years old when The Limits to Growth first saw print. I have a dim memory of seeing a newspaper article or two about it, but I had other things on my mind in 1972—my parents got divorced that year, and an already difficult childhood promptly got much worse….

        Aaaaah…. this explains the wizard outfits… JMG escaped from these childhood traumas into the magical world of the wizard!!!

        https://druidry.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/john-michael-greer1.jpg

      • Fast Eddy says:

        It was not, as the corporate media insisted it was, a prophecy of doom. That’s one of the details that got swept under the rug by the mainstream back in the 1970s and still gets swept under the rug by the project’s critics today. The point of The Limits to Growth was that we as a species, and as a community of nations, had a choice.

        We could rein back on economic growth ourselves and embrace the promise of a steady state future in relative balance with the global biosphere, or we could ignore the limits to growth until we slammed into them, and topple over into a long ragged decline ending in a new dark age.

        That was the choice. It’s crashingly unpopular these days to suggest that we could have chosen the former option, but that’s just sour grapes talking: we didn’t make that choice while we could, and so it’s emotionally easier for a lot of people to insist that it was never an option at all. I remain convinced that it could have happened.

        wrong wrong wrong Wrong WRONG!

        • Mike Roberts says:

          I don’t know what you’re quoting from there but I agree with you; it could not have happened (the choice to go to steady state) because it doesn’t fit with our species’ characteristic behaviour, making it impossible. Even if it was possible to make that choice, a steady state economy is an illusion unless it’s sustainable and very few people would want to live in a sustainable society.

  3. In my post, I referred to the 2020 OSDAI Trustees Report. Now, the 2021 OSDAI Trustees Report is finally out. It shows data through 2020, with forecasts starting for 2021. All of the forecasts going forward indicate that contributions plus investment income will fall short of what is needed to fund the program. Instead, the program is supposed to start tapping its Trust Fund, which is only funded by non-marketable IOUs of the US Treasury.

    Low, intermediate, and high forecasts are shown for each year through 2030 of the amount of additional funding from the Trust Fund (or, as I have pointed out, really from higher taxes or more debt) will be needed.

    For 2021, the estimates are
    Low – $60.6 billion
    Intermediate – $75.3 billion
    High – $91.2 billion

    For 2025, the estimates are
    Low – $56.1 billion (Today’s economic problems will go away, return to prosperity)
    Intermediate – $141.8 billion
    High – $227.6 billion

    For 2030, the estimates are
    Low – $128.4 billion
    Intermediate – $321.8 billion
    High – $465.9 billion

    The WSJ has an article that doesn’t explain the real problem involved:

    Social Security Costs Expected to Exceed Total Income in 2021 as Covid-19 Takes Financial Toll

    Trustees say hit from pandemic was less than feared; trust fund is now expected to be depleted in 2034 unless Congress shores up program

    The report was issued at the end of August this year; it was issued in April of 2020. I expect that some of that time was spent on figuring out how much improvement in the economy needed to be built into the system, to make it work. The funding until 2034 is just a nonsense calculation, since there are no resources backing this up, other than non-marketable government IOUs.

    • Dana says:

      I heard that the “Biden administration” was trying to pass a “new” death tax. I guess that means that when you die, the Gov will just take your entire estate.

      • geno mir says:

        The collective behind the ‘Philosophy of Capitalism’ argued back in 2014 that a death tax could provide a solution to some of the issues in the system and thus shore up BAU for several decades. They didn’t reach concrete consensus and the idea was abandoned as ‘too little too late’ solution. It looks like now we are even starting to consider ‘awfully less, awfully late’ fixes.

        • Kowalainen says:

          Yeah, the MOARons want to give their worthless offspring some unfair advantage.

          My father threathened me with some shenanigans related to his will. I just told him to sod off and do whatever he wants with his puny capital.

          I mean, giving unfair advantage to some generic offspring in the cloner herd that is mankind. It is beyond ridicilous.

    • Bei Dawei says:

      This problem is easily solved by devaluing the currency until the promised pensions are nearly worthless.

      • MickN says:

        Always been the default position
        · “We can guarantee cash benefits as far out and at whatever size you like, but we cannot guarantee their purchasing power.” -Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan, US Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs, Feb 16, 2005.

    • Tim Groves says:

      Norman still thinks the idea that the vax has something magnetic in it is just a crazy cons piracy theo ry. Perhaps this news that Moderna has admitted that some of its stocks of vax juice were contaminated with particles of stainless steel will cause him to re-assess that opinion.

      • geno mir says:

        Norman is a non factor here as I see it. And as for the metals contaminations in certain vaccine batches – the magnetism is not important. What s important is that those metal contaminants are mostly heavy metals (situated after Ferum(iron) in the periodic table). I advise you to google ‘heavy metal poisoning’. After reading about ‘heavy metal poisoning’ compare the symptoms of these with the known adverse reactions from the vaccines. Fascinating, isn’t it?

  4. Mercola has an article up called Bill Gates and the Vaccine Heist. It ill only be available for another day and a half. Excerpt:

    Gates Funds UK and US Public Health Organizations

    If we’ve learned anything over the past year and a half, it’s that corruption is rampant throughout our public health agencies and medical organizations. As reported by Armstrong Economics, the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation funds — and therefore has significant influence over — public health agencies in both the United States and the U.K.:4

    “The [U.S. Food and Drug Administration] has given full approval to Gates’s vaccines because it has been under tremendous political pressure to do so. Even CNBC reported that ‘Federal health officials had been under mounting pressure from the scientific community and advocacy groups to fully approve Pfizer and BioNTech’s vaccine …’

    Meanwhile, in London, an investigation has revealed that the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation are the primary funders of the UK’s Medicine & Healthcare products Regulatory Agency just as they are [of] the FDA in the United States.

    The SEC has done absolutely NOTHING about insider information since Gates is also a MAJOR shareholder in Pfizer / BioNTech mRNA. There are reliable medical organizations opposing these vaccines despite the approval by two regulatory agencies that are taking money from Gates which only introduces conflicts of interest and potential corruption …

    The FDA has NEVER approved a completely new type of medicine in less than one year, which raises serious questions about corruption. The average time it takes to get approval from the FDA is 12 years!”

    • Xabier says:

      The funding issue, and inherent conflict of interest, at the MHRA in the UK has been written about by reputable journalists, not just the vilified Dr Mercola.

      Moreover the head of the MHRA, Dr June Raine, said that she was ‘delighted to be working with our brilliant life sciences industry’, which hardly speaks of stern objectivity in the public interest.

      The same Dr RAine who knows full well how many are being and being harmed, and who hides behind the ‘benefits outweigh the risks’ mantra. Benefits to whom?

      What we thought were independent public bodies, entrusted with our protection, are in fact industry and investor (ie Gates) -funded susceptible to financial coercion.

      This is really an immense scandal, and should be headline news in the MSM, but is not, for some reason…….

      • geno mir says:

        Reg agencies are just ‘revolving door mechanism’ for recycling the right professionals into the public sector and vise versa. It is common for some captain of the pharma industry after several years to transfer into reg agency and for some regulatory tsar to transfer into the pharma industry. In my personal experience I see growing body of evidence that big pharma includes regulatory agencies the same way it includes educational centers and university hospitals.

    • Azure Kingfisher says:

      The FDA approved Pfizer’s “Comirnaty,” a separate filing to the “BioNTech” “vaccine,” which isn’t even on the shelves yet.

      It’s a ridiculous trick to make the public think that an existing “vaccine” has been fully FDA approved. It also provides employers and universities with a pretext to mandate “vaccination” for their employees, students and faculty – even though such mandates are funneling people towards Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) only “vaccines.”

      All existing and available COVID-19 “vaccines” are under currently under EUA only.

      Anyone who was on the fence about these “vaccines” and was waiting for full FDA approval before committing should still be on the fence. If they were to go down to their local hospital, clinic, or pop-up COVID-19 “vaccination” site and were able to receive a Pfizer injection they would be receiving the BioNTech “vaccine” that is under EUA – not the fully FDA approved Comirnaty.

      It’s doubtful that Comirnaty will even make it to the marketplace as that would create another problem. Once there’s a fully FDA approved “vaccine” for COVID-19 available to the public there can no longer be any EUA “vaccines.” The “emergency” situation would effectively be over, and there goes the legal liability protections afforded under EUA status for the “vaccine” manufacturers.

    • geno mir says:

      Gail, is this the article – https://vervetimes.com/bill-gates-and-the-vaccine-heist/

      I believe in this site the article won’t be blocked behind paywall.

  5. From the Miami Herald

    https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article253796898.html

    Florida changed its way of reported COVID-19 data, creating an “artificial decline” in recent deaths.

    My interpretation:

    Recently, changed the way in its reporting COVID-19 deaths. Now, Florida is putting death data into the system when the death certificate is processed, rather than when the death is first known. The death certificate shows what cause of death was assigned by the physician. Was it really COVID, or was it some underlying condition? So, in a sense, the new methodology is a more accurate approach.

    But, the change to the new methodology messes up reports at the time of the changeover. It leads to a temporary lull in the number of deaths reported.

    I wonder if the change was made at this time, to try to keep reported deaths from rising too high?

    I think Georgia uses the death certificate method also, but it has for a long time.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      If someone had terminal cancer… tested positive for covid… and died shortly after… they now marked the cause of death as cancer…. whereas previously it would be covid.

      That would not surprise me one bit.

      • geno mir says:

        At the start of the shit-show last year here a young man (33 yo) crashed his motorbike with some 180+ kmh and died several hours later in a hospital. His family is now suing the hospital because his CoD (certificate of death) lists as cause of death Covid-19. Also a distant cousin to my mother was payed 250 euros (under the table) to agree for her diseased mother to be listed as Covid-19 fatality. Her mother was 89 yo with advanced malignancy, 3 cerebrovascular accidents, 1 heart attack, diabetes, hypertension and dementia. She died in her house without any signs of infectious disease or any C19 symptoms in her sleep. My mother cousin tried to seek assistance from police and local health regulator and on the next day was phoned from county prosecutor office and warned that her actions could be assessed as treason and spreading dangerous misinformation. Batshit cray situation on steroids, cocaine and adrenochrome.

  6. Mirror on the wall says:

    Tim Black on the joys of ‘eco’ culture. What on earth did people do with all that muck before the modern period? The longer BAU last, the better.

    > Eco-warriors’ crappy vision of the future

    The disposable-nappy tax idea shows us how regressive environmentalism is.

    …. Indeed, if environmentalists have their way, not only will parents be re-laundering old cloth nappies, they’ll be trying to do so using lukewarm water. Just to make it doubly difficult to shift those stains.

    …. Every life-improving or time-saving appliance we use in our domestic lives, from the humble nappy to the latest in TV, is a problem in the eyes of green policymakers. For much of the noughties (until the advent of LED lights), we were told we spent winter evenings enjoying too much illumination from electric lighting. Dishwashers have long been a continual source of contention and worry. Refrigerators are an endless source of pollution. And the production of flat-screen TVs, we were told, could produce more greenhouse emissions than the world’s largest coal-fired power stations. Then there’s air-conditioning units, gas boilers, power shower… The list goes on and on. We need to limit our use of all of them, and live a simpler life. Like the one people used to live, in the 1750s.

    Even the food in our homes is a problem. Especially today, when most of it is largely bought from supermarkets. Yes, the complex supply-chains and the economies of scale may have resulted in a cornucopia on our doorsteps. But, say the green-eyed, at what cost? Just think of the carbon emitted to bring those bananas to your nearby Morrisons. And then there’s the energy used to power those doorless refrigerated aisles. Indeed, for greens, supermarkets are a symbol of all that’s wrong with modern life. The relative cheapness, the ease of access, and the time saved – all morbid symptoms of Western consumerism.

    Surely, the Guardian argued recently, it would be better to ‘grow your own’, perhaps on an allotment. Just remember to ‘avoid genetically modified and chemically bathed seeds’. After all, argue greens, it was messing around with nature that led us to the climate emergency in the first place.

    Incredibly, some greens argue we should forgo even grow-your-own levels of agriculture, and start foraging. ‘Plenty of weeds are edible, nutritious and delicious’, writes one green. ‘Plus, they’re free and don’t require any fossil fuels, water or trucking to grow and bring to market.’

    This is the green dream. A life lived as if modernity never happened. And it’s grim.

    Of course, the government is not currently encouraging us to forage for food. But urging us, as a society, to use cloth nappies again is part of the same backward vision – a vision that sees no scope for a better life, only a more miserable and more constrained one. We deserve better.

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2021/09/01/eco-warriors-crappy-vision-of-the-future/

    • Dana says:

      Tim Black doesn’t seem to understand things like resource depletion, energy constraints or pollution.

    • Dana says:

      Can you imagine all the disposable diapers (plastic) that have piled up in landfills since they were introduced, some half century ago?

      • Mirror on the wall says:

        Nappies are said to decompose within 500 years.

        I suppose that is just too bad. All human activity changes the planet. Look at cities, that is a lot of land covered. Farming levels forests. It is just how it goes. People who feel otherwise can opt out of civilisation/ life according to their own subjective preference if they wish, no one is stopping them.

        • Mirror on the wall says:

          On the other hand, if politicians want to make disposable nappies more expensive and people let them do that, then that is up to them. I am not my brothers keeper. Society would drag one into any number of the most ridiculous ‘moral’ causes. I am not doing that.

        • Mike Roberts says:

          It depends where you live. I’m sure that there are a lot of rules and regulations that stop people living life how they want. And continuing environmental damage and habitat destruction also limits that choice.

          • Mirror on the wall says:

            I really cannot imagine how burying used nappies in landfills to disintegrate over 500 years impinges my liberties in the least. Nor am I minded to multiply infringements on the basis that some already exist. I consider the preoccupation with used nappies to be quite bonkers. Delicate types who feel that way should probably remove themselves from the gene pool.

            • Mike Roberts says:

              Not sure if you were replying to my point. I was speaking generally to your claim, “People who feel otherwise can opt out of civilisation/ life according to their own subjective preference if they wish, no one is stopping them.”

            • Tim Groves says:

              Lets dispose of of the face nappy requirements first. Billions and billions of them have been produced, distributed, worn and discarded, with countless numbers ending up in the ocean getting tangled up with those drinking straws that turtles keep getting stuck up their poor little nostrils.

            • Mirror on the wall says:

              OK, we are talking about people who disposable nappies in the UK. Perhaps that clarifies it for you.

        • postkey says:

          “Three percent of the world’s land surface is covered with urban areas, an increase of at least 50 percent over previous estimates, scientists said this week.”
          https://www.livescience.com/6893-cities-cover-earth-realized.html

    • Xabier says:

      If the author finds life in the 1750’s too awful to contemplate, he is a pathetic excuse for a man.

      It wasn’t exactly Belsen…..

      • Mirror on the wall says:

        Right, who even needs all mod cons? If you prefer to take a dump on the curb outside your place then go for it! People are so pathetic these days.

    • geno mir says:

      So the greens’ ultimate goal is to transform themselves into cattle.

  7. CTG says:

    Guys, I have a movie script to sell. Anyone knows anyone in Hollywood?

    Set in year 2025 where the ravages of a virus have subsided. In 2020, the virus was believed to be an accidental leak from an Asian country. During the pandemic, an experimental and leaky vaccine was released to the public and it caused causing havoc and near economic collapse with the vaccinated and unvaccinated fighting out accusing each other as the virus mutated and killed many.

    The vaccinated who controlled the media and government won and the unvaccinated were like treated outcast, without any social and economic privilege until year 2022 where it was found that the experimental vaccine is causing “bad blood”; blood that was filled with prions and other contaminations, thus, making it unfit for transfusion. Instant death happens when transfusion takes place. So, the vaccinated rounded up as many of the unvaccinated and put them into farms to “milk” or should I say “blooded” their blood for transfusion and organ transplants for the vaccinated.

    In one farm, riots occurred and some unvaccinated escaped. They want to leave for a place, known as FastEddyLand where the unvaccinated are welcomed and protected. The movie detailed their perilous journey to FastEddyLand.

    Should be a good one….

  8. Herbie Ficklestein says:

    Scotty Kilmer of YouTube just posted this…Selling 30,000 electric cars a month for under 5,000
    Greenies….great idea…small vehicle 🚜 for around the town short trips, like going to the grocery store or Walmart or Target…the only stores still in business.
    Scotty pointed out that Elon had it backwards….should have started low, like Henry Ford, and then introduced fancier models….looks like Chairman Moa wants to export them to the USA and include a free suit of cloths and a discount if you buy it in the color ♥️🍒
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HYUwydf7kw4

    Hope Sleepy Joe gives a tax credit for buying one making it under $4,000

  9. Student says:

    Studies on Biological senescense linked to Covid-19 and Vaccines, with interesting links (special focus on vaccines in the second part of the article):

    https://www.francesoir.fr/opinions-tribunes/le-sars-cov2-accelererait-lage-biologique

    • This is what a Google Translation of the introduction says:

      SARS-COV2 would accelerate biological age

      Do you know the word “senescence”? Senescence is in biology the physiological process which leads to the degradation of cell functions over time. In other words, senescence, from Latin senex “great age”, is the aging of organisms. Historically, scientists have sought to curb aging trying to respect the Chinese proverb taken by Malraux

      “You have to add life to years and not years to life”.

      Several recent studies tend to show that SARS-CoV2 accelerates the biological age of cells. How? ‘Or’ What ? By acting on the size of telomeres, these DNA sequences that protect the ends of chromosomes and shorten with each cell division.

      In April 2021, a Chinese study by Yuyang Lei and Jiao Zhang, published on Circulation Research points out that the main pathogen of the Covid-19 virus is its spike protein, called Spike. The spike protein surrounds the viral capsid and allows it to enter cells to infect them. In this study, the researchers isolated Spike by placing it on an empty nucleus, then inoculated it into guinea pigs, in order to observe its action on the body. The animals showed damage to the lungs and arteries associated with inflammation of endothelial cells.

      The team replicated the in vitro experiment on healthy human endothelial cells: the spike protein thus bound to ACE2 receptors, damaging the cell’s mitochondria, causing micro-thrombosis and endothelitis. The conclusions are clear: Spike protein alone causes most of the symptoms of Covid-19 (Covid in the rest of the article).

      Some questions then burn the lips:

      If it is proven that SARS-CoV2 induces accelerated cellular aging, and that the responsible for this senescence is none other than the Spike protein, how can we be absolutely certain that the vaccines currently on the market, all based on Spike, do not not also lead to the accelerated degradation of the cells of vaccinated people?

      What are the links between the mechanisms involved in senescence linked to telomere shortening and vaccines?

      Some answers in this article. We warn the reader that some paragraphs require some knowledge of biology or biochemistry. The conclusion is intended for the general public.

    • From later in the article:

      Is oxidative stress induced by mRNA vaccination (Pfizer, Moderna) also responsible for telomere shortening?

      The spike protein in vaccines also induces inflammation and oxidative stress by binding to ACE2 receptors found throughout the body (Lesgards JF, 2021).

      Given the severity of the observed side effects and the fact that the biochemical mechanisms are partly similar, it can be hypothesized that mRNA vaccines can oxidize guanines in DNA and partly telomeres. We know that post-vaccine inflammation is produced and sought to amplify the immune reaction and the production of antibodies, and if we add the inflammatory and pro-oxidant action (one does not go without the other) , induced by the spike protein and which can last for at least 15 days (Ogata AF et al., 2021), we have an environment very conducive to the oxidation of DNA bases, the most fragile of which is guanine, especially on telomeres.

      In fact, a study showed that vaccination with the Pfizer vaccine led to an increase in oxidative stress levels (evaluated by measuring glutathione) which returned to normal after 14 days (Ntouros PA et al., 2021). This period is nevertheless sufficient to induce damage to the telomeres.

      This oxidative stress produced by vaccination also poses another problem which is the stability of the mRNA of the vaccines itself! Very surprisingly, the mRNAs of the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines were enriched in guanines! This being supposed to increase the translation of RNA into spike protein: indeed, if we study the nucleotide sequence of the spike gene of the SARS-CoV2 virus, and that we compare it to the coding sequence for the spike protein of the vaccine, there are many differences which, however, do not affect the translation product (as they are synonymous codons). These changes in the nucleotide sequence were introduced by the researchers to make the vaccine more effective (they replaced bases with Gs, whenever possible, to increase the efficiency of translation). https://www.pedagogie.ac-nice.fr/svt/?p=2967

      But just as it is impossible for manufacturers to ignore the toxicity of the spike protein known for ten years, it is even more impossible to ignore the fragility (oxidability) of guanines!

      It is therefore surprising that none of the regulatory authorities in charge of evaluating MA application files for these vaccines (FDA and EMA in particular), knowing the sensitivity of telomeres and DNA to oxidative stress, did not request a toxicity study on the genes (genotoxicity).

      Extract from the EMA report on Comirnaty (Pfizer vaccine): “Genotoxicity: No genotoxicity studies were provided. This is acceptable because the components present in the vaccine formulation are lipids and RNA which should not have genotoxic potential (EMA, 2021) ”.
      From a scientific and safety point of view, this can be seen as irresponsible.

      Are the spike proteins from RNA vaccines more harmful than the spike protein from the SARS-CoV2 virus?

      The following three experimental and then theoretical explanations allow us to answer in the affirmative. The “apprentice living technologists” thought to make the RNA of vaccines more stable by doping it with G bases, without modifying the corresponding amino acids, something made possible thanks to the “mode of operation” of the universal genetic code which allows several triplets to form. separate codons to encode one and the same amino acid. Unfortunately, in the context of vaccine RNAs, this leads to a diametrically opposed result since the latter become more unstable, more fragile and more brittle.

      1 – The article “vaccine-induced Covid-19 mimicry” syndrome (Marschalek et al., 2021) shows how this doping in G bases of the spike RNA can cause changes in the reading frame of the codons, therefore partial sequences of different amino acids, which may ultimately lead to thromboembolic events in patients immunized with covid-19 vaccines.

      2 – In addition, it has been shown how this excess of bases G of the RNA of the spike of the vaccines reduces to zero the megastructures according to AU / CG proportions defined by Fibonacci whereas, on the contrary, the spike of the virus and especially that variants see the complexity and quantity of such structures enriched. To put it simply, this means that the RNA of vaccines is only a stack of nucleotides without the slightest backbone ensuring it a megastructure at medium and long distance, while the variants acquire day by day a greater solidity and cohesion. overall of their RNA. (Perez JC 2021)

      3 – This inconsistency can also be visualized in the figure below as a kind of “fractal roughness” which is much more unstable and inharmonious in the RNA of the vaccine spike (Pfizer more particularly) than in the RNA of the spike of the vaccine. virus. This has been shown using the master code method.

      [Quite a bit more in the article itself]

      Conclusion
      These studies and observations provide key information about the disease and a fundamental answer to the question of the greater susceptibility of the elderly or immunodeficient to the disease. Indeed, with aging, telomeres deteriorate and affect cell reproduction. SARS-CoV2 is believed to cause biological aging or acceleration of biological age through increased telomere shortening.

      The question that can legitimately be asked is the following: is the spike protein active in vaccines (Pfizer, Moderna, etc.) by soliciting / blocking the ACE2 receptor not likely to inhibit the beneficial protective function of telomeres and so also activate aging?

      There would therefore be a direct link between the disease and the human cellular machinery with the intervention of reverse transcriptase, which absolutely does not correspond to the objective of a traditional vaccine.

      To fight against SARS-COV2, two strategies to be pursued simultaneously seem relevant:

      1 – Prevent disease – using the known responses of barrier gestures, early treatment and “proven vaccination” as a therapeutic and medical approach. Prevention also involves a healthy lifestyle, a balanced diet, physical activity, sufficient rest and social interaction. Mens sana in corpore sano, the best prerequisite to face viruses and bacteria.

      2 – Prevent severe forms of the disease – above all, this requires a full understanding of the virus, its mode of action and the consequences of the disease on the affected organs.
      To date, the health response to the management of the crisis consists of the injection of substances still being tested, still in phase 3 at the time of this article’s publication, for which the definition of the word “vaccine” had to be modified by the WHO itself.

      In addition, it is accepted that injection with messenger RNA technology results in increased production of the spike protein while not reducing transmission (Pfizer treatment reported only 42% effective against the delta variant).

      This vaccine barrier would also promote the creation of variants that seek to bypass it. In countries which have massively vaccinated, the data published by the authorities tend to show that a high percentage of people hospitalized are people whose vaccination course is complete. Note that to date, French institutions do not report the same observations; this can be explained in part by the delay in the start of the vaccination campaign (+ 2 months compared to Israel for example).

      Professor Montagnier says: “to prevent senescence, take antioxidants! I have been saying this for 30 years, I would add now: so as not to lose my telomeres “.

      Several questions arise about the virus:

      1 – Is it better to catch the disease randomly and develop a natural global immune response or to try the vaccine experience by incurring the many side effects reported by pharmacovigilance, as well as a risk of increased cell senescence?

      2 – Is the deterioration in biological age the same in Covid patients and in vaccinated people? Is one worse than the other? At this stage, no one can give a precise answer to these questions.

      However, this virus causes an increase in the biological age in people who contract the disease, the effect of which is probably accentuated by the vaccine injection. With the decline in efficacy on contamination, it is therefore essential to prevent the worsening of the disease and therefore early management is imperative.

      By allowing the disease to progress beyond the first few days and using vaccines as the only solution, there is a risk that the lifespan of both adults and children will be reduced. At a time when women and men alike are looking to age in the best possible conditions and stay young as late as possible, do we want to take the risk with regular injections of ruining all these efforts? Faced with the desire to vaccinate children who are not affected by SARS-CoV2, the remedy should not be worse than the disease.

      Faced with the feelings of some patients who have contracted Covid and / or some vaccinated people testifying that they have the impression “of having taken ten years at once”, science would bring it at the right time, once again , evidence for a response in favor of early treatment? A final step, which some will not hesitate to take, is to declare that the acceleration of the biological age will lead to a decrease in life expectancy.

      • Wow! Telomere shortening is not what most of us would want.

      • MM says:

        In case you want to research this topic further, the lipid casc of the vaccine has a special feature intruducing positive charged paticles, otherwise it could not enter the cell. As far as I understood it, this particle acts like a very long lasting free radical and can wreck havoc on everything in the cell / body it touches. This can be dubbed as “accelerated ageing due to oxidative stress”
        Everything about the chemical rammifications of the vaccine has been analysed by a biochemist in the german Corona Iinvestigative Comittee issue 37:
        https://odysee.com/@Corona-Ausschuss:3/sitzung37:f
        Start at: 03:45
        about 10 months ago. It is all german. They try to do some english stuff right now but I dunno if 37 will be translated.

    • There is actually data in the paper, showing how much having COVID-19 (without prompt treatment) ages people. This is a chart from the paper. Delta is “Change in”. “sans” is without.

      https://ourfiniteworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Distribution-of-the-variable-Change-in-Age-1024×681.png

  10. MG says:

    The evolution does not stop. That is why the humans fight with genetic mutations:

    Mitochondrial Correction: A New Therapeutic Paradigm for Cancer and Degenerative Diseases

    https://www.senmo.org/images/DESCARGAS/Mitochondrial-Correction-A-New-Therapeutic-Paradigm-for-Cancer-and-Degenerative-Diseases-JOM-33.4.pdf

    “As described already in the 1920s by Otto Warburg, cancer cells often show a shift in energy production from mitochondrial oxidative phosphorylation (OXPHOS) to cytosolic glycolysis (Warburg, Posener, Negelein & Ueber den Stoffwechsel der Tumoren, 1924). This so-called aerobic glycolysis, in which glucose is converted to pyruvate and lactate in spite of the presence of oxygen, is a major characteristic of most tumor cells. Importantly, this increase in glycolytic activity was similar to that observed in early embryonic cells.
    Thus cancer cells seem to resume a more primitive metabolic pattern (Gonzalez et al., 2012). This brings us to Albert Szent Gyorgi’s elucidation of malignancy as a reversion to the primordial state (Alpha State) from the oxidative or Beta State of normal cell functions. We can support these concepts by providing information about the nature, etiology and function of mitochondria in normal and cancer cells.”

    https://qb3.berkeley.edu/news/a-behind-the-scenes-look/

    ““PQQ belongs to a class of quinone cofactors,” Klinman says. “There is a whole family of quinone cofactors, but in all of those instances, the cofactor directly connects to the protein, PQQ is a free-standing cofactor.” Bacteria produce PQQ for “digesting” alcohol and sugar to generate energy under certain conditions. For bacteria, producing PQQ is “a strategy to deliver electrons to electron transport chains that lead to ATP production,” which is crucial for bacteria survival. “There is an evolutionary benefit for bacteria to use PQQ,” Klinman says.”

    “Although PQQ exists in fruits, vegetables, and human breast milk, only bacteria can produce PQQ.”

    ““I am always interested in PQQ because it is what is called a ‘cell viability cofactor’ that gives an advantage to certain prokaryotic cells to boost up their viability by providing an alternative pathway for energy generation.”

    “Scientists are continuing to investigate how PQQ is made in various bacteria that are either beneficial or pathogenic to humans and to unlock the relationship between human health and the PQQ in the foods we eat, even while most of the time, we don’t even realize we’re eating it.”

  11. Jan says:

    This is the key sentence:

    “governments can add debt and other indirect promises of resources that create goods and services, but they cannot actually create the low-cost energy, water and mineral resources needed to fulfill those promises.”

    It is reported that the German government has spent 400.000.000.000 EURs for the Corona crisis only, that is about 5.000 EURs per capita – to keep people satisfied, and the society is heavily split!

    The banking crisis cost every German 9.000 EURs. Germany also paid 400 billion to stabilize the Euro.

    Very soon, I think, we should expect inflationary tendencies as the baby boomers start spending their pension savings. I have never come across that point in the public discussion, though.

    Energy per capita equals life standard. If we have to reduce energy we could also reduce life standard, not only overpopulation. We have to stop the merry “be fruitful and multiply”-order, though.

    In fact the Corona system reduced individual traffic and thus the spending of oil. The authoritarian measures control dissatisfaction. The Corona narrative blocks all other discussions.

    I wonder, though, how long this can go? The GDR failed because they could not fulfill their promises. The mostly right winged opposition propagates a politics as that of chancellor Helmut Kohl. But that was in the 80ties, conditions have changed since. Neither the Great Reset-/Green New Deal-promoters nor their critics show a realistic perspective!

    Apart from Gail there is absolutely no discussion about underlying problems and possible solutions! When the mainstream coalition and the opposition has failed there wont be alternatives!

    As always I believe we must bury our nuclear waste as soon as possible!

  12. TIm Groves says:

    Gail, your fellow Georgian is a big fan of ivermectin. In 2016, the Carter Foundation called it “the solution” to African river blindness.

    THE PROBLEM

    River blindness threatens an estimated 120 million people worldwide. Caused by a worm parasite that spreads via the bite of black fly, the disease is most endemic in Nigeria. With its dense and growing population, roughly 50 million people in 40,000 communities in Nigeria are infected with or at risk of the disease.

    River blindness causes devastating socio-economic repercussions in Africa, resulting in food insecurity, lack of education for children who must care for blinded parents, intergenerational poverty, and social stigma.

    THE SOLUTION

    The Carter Center will eliminate transmission of river blindness disease in Nigeria, creating a model for the rest of Africa and the world.

    In partnership with the Ministry of Health and local NGOs, the Center will work through community-directed distribution systems to administer the drug ivermectin (Mectizan®, donated by Merck & Co.) once or twice per year. This medicine is proven to stop transmission of the condition.

    The program will train community-level volunteers in the appropriate dosing and administration of the drug and to provide health education to families and neighbors, creating a sustainable, rudimentary healthcare infrastructure in remote communities.

    Similar Carter Center projects have eliminated river blindness from four countries in the Americas and from parts of Uganda and Sudan. This project will bring these best practices to scale across Nigeria, demonstrating that eliminating river blindness is possible in even the largest and most challenging environments.

    https://www.macfound.org/press/semifinalist-profile/carter-center

  13. CTG says:

    Mike Roberts,

    I think you are not going to influence anyone here anymore. Perhaps you might want to leave quietly

    1. You have not come back to me on why you say peer review is excellent. I am still waiting. I am giving you a chance to present yourself.

    2. You mentioned that they should do more trials on ivermectin. Seriously, is there something between your ears or you just blurted out? Ivermectin has been approved for usage for decades, on humans and livestock. It has tons of data on efficacy, side effects, dosage, etc.

    When you said that, do you even realised that the “vaccines” that is used currently are probably dubiously tested only a few weeks or months with many shortcuts? You have not problem with that trials? I mean, if you really want to fit in here with a different opinion, at least do it in a proper manner.

    We are all “thinking people” here and we accept what you say if it is true.

    thank you

  14. CTG says:

    I have read somewhere that the entire world, especially the doctors and professionals are under a trance or perhaps a spell where they simply cannot see any bad about the vaccine. They may not be paid off by the pharmaceutical companies as some of them are not even communicating with the sales reps of pharmaceutical companies. However, they continue to parrot what is mentioned by MSM. It is surreal and it is like a “computer program being executed simultaneously worldwide”

    Any new studies that is negative towards the vaccines will not be believed. Even among my group of friends who are professionals and highly educated, they just could not see it. Someone sent out to our chat group that a very health person (very fit) died in his sleep and the cause is heart attack. Someone asked if he is vaccinated and the rest of the group just said it can be a cause but unlikely and the word “anti-vaxx” popped up in the chat and the conversation shifted to another topic.

    They just simply cannot comprehend the link or perhaps a programming limitation.

    It is like Neil Armstrong came out and held a press conference and he said that he did not go to the moon. I think people will just say “nah, not possible, he musts be lying” and proceed to brush him off and still believe they landed on the moon. That is probably the most likely thing that will happen (in my opinion).

    We are at a stage where data and facts do not matter anymore. What is most important is what is being said by the TV, politicians and the “experts”.

    It seems to me that either all of them are in a trance or their brain (critical thinking) just disappeared overnight perhaps.

    Surreal and like living in a dystopian movie…. I have a mouth but I cannot scream

    • MM says:

      WOPR just plays their
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loss_aversion

      Much more to say here.
      Game theory is real because most people just act like on off machines.
      To overcome this requires very hard work on your cognitive biases (whtat is not simply accepting that woke is the new normal) and that will come with very strong feelings of loss when you must accept that all your previous live was a loss.
      “We” know this under the term “five stages of grief”.

      The problem only gets worse the more time you wait.So thier behaviour is pretty predictible (again, sigh).

      • NomadicBeer says:

        Can you expand?
        I honestly hope this comments are preserved for posterity. I know psychiatrists can spend decades trying to understand the disturbed mentality of the “good germans” in this group.

    • Xabier says:

      Vernon Coleman made a very good video on how physicians are usually reluctant to accept that their prescriptions have caused serious harm through ‘side-effects’, and will often add further harmful drugs to the mix in an attempt to rectify the situation.

      We are also dealing with very basic psychology – instinctive denial of disturbing facts – and the result of a lifetime immersion in a routine and consensus-based and very hierarchical medical culture, quite distinct from levels of intelligence.

      • I can understand that, but what would cause a physician to outright lie, with absurd (and easily de-bunked) claims of ERs being so over-run with Ivermectin overdose cases that gunshot victims cannot be treated?

        Money? Docs in the US are generally well-off, so it would have to be a significant amount. Or is this person simply psychotic? It would be interesting to know which.


        McElyea said patients have arrived at hospitals with negative reactions like nausea, vomiting, muscle aches, and cramping — or even loss of sight.
        “The scariest one that I’ve heard of and seen is people coming in with vision loss,” the doctor said. -Rolling Stone

        https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/rolling-stone-horse-dewormer-hit-piece-debunked-after-hospital-says-no-ivermectin

        • Fast Eddy says:

          That’s a great question …. toeing the line because you’ve bot the propaganda or blocking things out because you don’t want to lose your livelihood are understandable …

          But to be complicit in actual murder is difficult to comprehend… recall that interview with the nurse from Elmhurst… they knew exactly what was going on … were challenged on it … but the doctors responded with various justifications…

          I suspect what we are looking at is an edict from the vary top that is passed to the honchos at the hospitals… then down to the front line staff… no different than what happened in Nazi Germany except that in Germany you likely got a bullet if you refused orders…. When you are on half a million+ dollars a year and have a mortgage to pay … and schools fees… and a wife with a hand bag addiction …. I suppose the mind is capable of adjusting to do whatever it takes …

          If the Ministry of Health and the leaders of the country say this is what needs to be done… then you just go along… you actually convince yourself that what you are doing is acceptable.

          Not so different from a CovIDIOT injecting what is clearly an experiment into their bodies… most of them have at least some exposure to those who warn of the dangers… but they throw all logic out the door and rush to the clinic….

          Basically they are all ‘Zombies’…. dangerous Zombies… you cannot reason with a Zombie… and if you push the Zombies they can become extremely violent

    • Late to the Party says:

      I am a retired RN as I have shared before on this blog. I am married to a retired MD who specialized in Public Health and spent her career working in Africa, East Asia, and Bolivia working for Christian relief organizations. We met late in life and she soon learned that I was a conspiracy nut. I do enjoy considering them and reject lots too.
      And when I showed her the evidence around 9-11 and the moon landing, she quickly saw the truth there. She is a smart person, probably significantly more than me. She is totally on board with the imminent threat of economic collapse facing us.

      But she does not see anything wrong about the vaccines and has had them herself. I have talked about and shown her many snippets of videos that show the ill considered public policy we are all living through these days and she is unconvinced. I have given up and keep it to myself now.

      I think her and many other physicians have worked so hard to be in their profession that it becomes part of their identity. Nurses can go home after work and forget about it. Doctors so often can never do that. They are always switched on and in the process lose themselves and parts of their mind and identity. Their identity is foremost being a doctor and being part of the medical establishment of the AMA or whatever group and their highest unassailable authorities JAMA, Lancet, peer reviewed studies, and the lot.

      After learning of the medical community malfeasance years ago about demonizing fats but giving a pass to carbs and sugars, my wife recently saw the truth for her and switched her diet over to a Keto diet and has been healthier as a result. But she can not give up her allegiance to vaccines and public health idiocy that only gets worse by the day.

      She, is like so many other really smart people. I call them OIP’s .(Otherwise Intelligent Person).
      It is like a trance. It is a little weird to see personally. I think Kuenstler used the term consensus trance years ago about people not being able to see our peak oil circumstances.

      • With respect to the vaccines, there are a lot of problems with the vaccines (and also with the disease) that are not easy to see.This is a major reason why there is a big difference in opinion. Most people assume these vaccines are like any other vaccines. They definitely are not!

        See the article in French above that I translated part of.
        https://www.francesoir.fr/opinions-tribunes/le-sars-cov2-accelererait-lage-biologique

        It says that the having COVID, without prompt treatment, adds an average of ten years to a person’s age, from the point of view of shortening telomeres. The vaccines appear likely to be harmful in same way, but more research needs to be done.

        The article says that a healthy lifestyle is helpful in allowing long telomeres.

        The article doesn’t mention that ivermectin can be helpful in putting a prompt end to the disease. I would think early treatment with it could end the problem of the disease doing lasting damage.

        You may or may not know that having the vaccine does not prevent a person from catching COVID and being very infectious. All it does is suppress some of the symptoms. That way, the vaccinated person doesn’t realize that he is a danger to others because he is sick. It creates many “typhoid Marys.” The number of new cases is likely to rise very high. There is likely to be a problem with new variants that the vaccines cannot really treat well, like the current Delta variant. Repeated does seem to be needed, increasing the problem with the vaccines themselves causing harm.

        • Mike Roberts says:

          Not sure what you mean by “any other vaccine” because not all vaccines produce sterilizing immunity.

          https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/vaccines-need-not-completely-stop-covid-transmission-to-curb-the-pandemic1/

          • Fast Eddy says:

            No they don’t … that’s why you do NOT release them during a pandemic.

            I’ve posted this before but as usual mike the Spike is unable to grasp the concept … let’s try a new strategy:

            Mass infection prevention and mass vaccination with leaky Covid-19 vaccines in the midst of the pandemic can only breed highly infectious variants.

            Mass infection prevention and mass vaccination with leaky Covid-19 vaccines in the midst of the pandemic can only breed highly infectious variants.

            Mass infection prevention and mass vaccination with leaky Covid-19 vaccines in the midst of the pandemic can only breed highly infectious variants.

            Mass infection prevention and mass vaccination with leaky Covid-19 vaccines in the midst of the pandemic can only breed highly infectious variants.

            Mass infection prevention and mass vaccination with leaky Covid-19 vaccines in the midst of the pandemic can only breed highly infectious variants.

            Mass infection prevention and mass vaccination with leaky Covid-19 vaccines in the midst of the pandemic can only breed highly infectious variants.

            https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/

          • Fast Eddy says:

            mike — can you point me to the research that states how they overcame these problems

            Feds Race to Make SARS Vaccine

            Developing a vaccine often takes a couple of decades or longer, but the federal government is aiming to develop a SARS vaccine in just three years. Scientists at the Vaccine Research Center are attacking the problem on several fronts, although some question whether a SARS vaccine is even possible.

            https://www.wired.com/2003/05/feds-race-to-make-sars-vaccine/

            BTW – this was one of the first searches I did when the CDC suggested they expected to have a vaccine for Covid within a year….

            I recall thinking at the time — how is this possible — it takes may years to create a safe vaccine…. because you must WAIT to see what happens and you proceed along the trials…

            The reason you WAIT is because if it goes sideways — you can end up killing and maiming far more people than you save….

            I was aware that they had been working a SARS vaccine … so was wondering what happened with that…

            And I hit the jack pot….

            But mike you’d never do that would you… you would just do what the MSM and Donkey Face tell you what to do and what to think….

          • geno mir says:

            If a vaccine does not stop transmission but only provides for milder disease than it is not a vaccine but a treatment.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              For a short period until the virus strengthens then all hell breaks lose … as it has in Israel … until you tame it for another short period with a Booster.

              Calm before the storm before the calm before the storm …. until at some point the Mother of All Hurricanes hits

            • geno mir says:

              Time will tell. We can’t be certain given the heterogeneous nature of human immunity. For example i have been in contact with nunerous Covid patients (3 of them with delta) and taking care of them and i didn’t catch the virus. Even when the wife was with it in sep 2020 (and we didn’t stop our close contacts wink-wink) i didn’t catch it. I also haven’t had a flu since I was 12 and have never had a flu shot. Immune system is very complex and no matter what we do or how much computing power we use it is impossible to forecast accurately how the immune system will respond in every situation.
              Anyway, bottom line is that we can’t counter-act randomness so imo it is always a safe bet to put your money in the gods of randomness.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              One of the reasons I will refuse to be Injected is because I do not want to expose myself to the risk of dying or being so wrecked that I have to ram the Death Mobile into the rock cut to end the misery….

              I must survive to see what the end game is…. if it’s not the CEP … or the transhuman gig… I want to be around for the Big Unveil.

            • geno mir says:

              We all want to see the endgame.

        • Tim Groves says:

          having COVID, without prompt treatment, adds an average of ten years to a person’s age, from the point of view of shortening telomeres

          That should read, as we all know, “having COVID, without prompt treatment, subtracts an average of ten years from a person’s age, from the point of view of shortening telomeres”.

          And that’s a sobering thought.

          • It’s even more sobering when the official protocol is *not to treat* until a person reaches a need for hospitalization, which seems all too often to lead to ventilation and the remdesivirvancomycin hit to the kidneys.

            Geno mir, is that the protocol in your country, or do you have more flexible treatment options?

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Stoooopid People with High IQs….

        I have a large circle of friends who are lawyers — as far as I know all of them buy into the covid BS….

        I suspect that the more you have vested in ‘they system’ the more you trust it – the more you believe in it. Who is more vested than a lawyer – they are the very foundation of civilization …. they go through extensive training ensuring they will support that foundation

        Other professionals – including doctors – also have a lot at risk …. they are completely captured by the system — so are unlikely to challenge edicts…

        • Xabier says:

          I’ve mostly hung around top-class lawyers, bankers and medics, since I was a student, and I’d agree, FE.

          They are totally invested in the belief that the system works, and it works for them. Their wealth and success proves that, etc.

          And, being so clever, how could they be hoodwinked? The blow to their self-esteem would be immense.

          I’ve found that working class people, who finished formal education quite early, are generally much more alive to the possibility of fraud and being screwed.

      • Xabier says:

        Thank you for that comment, I believe you are right about the medical profession.

        I’ve watched the progress of a friend to a distinguished position as surgeon, teacher and researcher, and it has been all-consuming and a very long haul, at the sacrifice of nearly all private life, although he is a very fond father, good friend, and has a lovely wife. The most considerate and kind person, too.

        Now, imagine how disturbing it would be to begin to be aware of corruption and intellectual dishonesty among the highest medical authorities and regulators, to realise that if you were to speak not only your career but all your long-invested in sense of self would be thrown away…..

    • eKnock says:

      We have much data and discussion on our predicament of shrinking resources per capita. It appears to me that the resources per capita (RPC) problem is a symptom of a genetic transition of humanity as a result of population increase.
      In the early stages of life on Earth, survival and success was based on the ability to make empirical observation of one’s environment in order make the successful response to acquire food and avoid predators.

      When we observe nature, we are seeing the results of successful response. With a successful response, the individual survives and reproduces and passes on its genes to the next generation.

      The genetic material is a history of successful response.

      At some point in the past the “herd instinct” evolved. The herd instinct is a successful response to predation. The lone individual receives 100% of the predator’s attention. When there are 10 individuals, then each one has a 90% chance of not getting the predator’s attention. If there are 100 individuals then each one has a 99% chance of not receiving the predator’s attention.

      We see schools of fish, and flocks of birds, and herds of caribou, troops of monkeys, and tribes and kingdoms of humans, and so on.

      To minimize stress and increase success in herds of many mammals and particularly primates, it was necessary, to establish a standard for behavior. Individuals whose behavior was unacceptable to the herd were ostracized. With the loss of the advantage of the herd, the noncompliant individuals were less successful and had less genetic input to the species. The herd response is successful and requires conforming to herd standards.

      In mammals, particularly, the herd response was more successful with an Alpha individual. Following the leader is not always successful, but some form of organization is more successful than disorganization. In humans, the success of organization provided population increase which produced the Alphas that we call Chiefs, Kings, Emperors, etc. To remain part of the herd it became necessary to agree and comply with the Alpha. To oppose the King could lead to one’s execution or at least banishment from the herd. It was necessary to convince the King that you were in support of his position regardless of your empirical observations.

      When an individual’s empirical observation was not consistent with the edict of the Alpha, then there was a selection for the ability to respond, not to your empirical observation of your environment, but to the edict of the Alpha. A factor of success became the ability to act like something that you are not. The ability to act like something that you are not is held in great esteem in the world today.

      Empirical observation of one’s environment became less important than political observation of one’s herd to understand who had the power to declare truth.

      Another trait, that evolved to deal with the problem of empirical observation interfering with compliance with the Alpha’s edict, was to not make the empirical observation. If an individual’s consciousness did not record the empirical observation that was in conflict with the Alpha’s edict then they did not have to act like something that they are not. They projected full compliance with the edict since their consciousness held no conflicting information.

      We are witnessing the effect of survival of the fittest. There has been a natural selection for not recording empirical observations. We can see that it is more fit to make the political response. Whatever the Alpha declares as truth is The Truth.

      Those who point out the empirical truth are branded as conspiracy theorists.

      • CTG says:

        Herd instinct – do we see them in 1950s or 60s?

      • Fast Eddy says:

        I suppose it may be difficult to get laid of you are anti covid vaxxer…. uniless there is an app for that.

      • MM says:

        You could call that “Genetic Path Dependency”

        I would like to add, that a stochastic problem is at play, why alpha instinct can be overcome.
        If my kingdom is far away from others, I must stick to it because as Moses experienced, leaving the flock is a bit tedious.
        Today, at leat in Europe for example, if you walk one day, you will surely meet other fellow homo sapiens’, so your change of survival in a form of “free wandering around” would be much higher.
        In any case that also needs some sort of average “productive density” in the environment, meaning high population, aka high energy density in the end.
        If we could keep that somewhat, we could evolve to a form of “living without governance”. Self organizing is an energy / entropy related thing.
        I doubt a flock of fish or birds have an alpha.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Anyone who is truly intelligent… would not exhibit that sort of behaviour.

      People like that are the = of highly trained circus beasts.

  15. MM says:

    Here is a great article about “The Cantillion Effect” that I suppose is fun for Actuaries:

    https://tomluongo.me/2021/08/31/from-the-notebook-the-unintended-consequences-of-covid-9-11/

    This one thing is pretty clear: The Great Reset is their last card.
    If they play it too hard, failure is in the cards, hehe.
    Well, If you look at the details in the article you clearly see a global struggle at work.
    Question is open if “de-globalisation” is “the” strategy against “resource shortage”.
    And: you can not really say if the “global globalists” still have it all under controll including China and Russia. That is above all our paygrades.
    The “regional globalists” of the USA in my opinion are already “a sunken cost” for the “global globalists” but their timeframe is more in generations so speculations are, uhm well…

  16. Fast Eddy says:

    On the fifth day of our week-long expedition, several of us walk the sagging remains of an old road to the site. Near the pole that still stands, a second has fallen, a third, a fourth. I find the square concrete pillars of the Quonset huts’ foundations. A toilet lies alone on a rise, bowl facing inland. I pause next to a biometrician named Aaron Christ, as he shoots photos of a pile of rusting barrels that shriek with the scent of diesel. “We’re great at building wondrous things,” he says after a moment. “We’re terrible at tearing them down and cleaning them up.”

    And yet, the tundra seems to be slowly reclaiming most of it. Monkshood and dwarf willow grow thick and spongy over the road. Moss and lichen finger over broken metal and jagged plywood, pulling them down.

    • Malcopian says:

      “Upset at the Quonset Sunset”, by Aaron Christ, a.k.a. Little Baby Jesus, who has forgotten how to do miracles.

  17. Fast Eddy says:

    https://www.hakaimagazine.com/features/the-island-humans-cant-conquer/

    Around the winter of 1809–1810, a party of Russians and Unangans decamped here to hunt bears for fur. Depending on what source you consult, many of the Russians died of scurvy, while the Unangans survived, or some or most of the party perished when the sea mammals they relied on moved beyond the range of their hunts, or all were so tormented by polar bears that they had to leave. Indeed, when naturalist Henry Elliott visited the islands in 1874, he found them swarming with bruins.

    “Judge our astonishment at finding hundreds of large polar bears … lazily sleeping in grassy hollows, or digging up grass and other roots, browsing like hogs,” Elliott wrote, though he seemed to find them less terrifying than interesting and tasty. After his party killed some, he noted that the steaks were of “excellent quality.”

    Even after the bears were gone, the archipelago remained a difficult place for people. The fog was endless; the weather, a banshee; the isolation, extreme. In 1916, the Arctic power schooner Great Bear ran afoul of the mists and wrecked on Pinnacle. The crew used whaleboats to move about 20 tonnes of supplies to St. Matthew to set up a camp and wait for help.

    A man named N. H. Bokum managed to build a sort of transmitter from odds and ends, and climbed each night to a clifftop to tap out SOS calls. But he gave up after concluding that the soggy air interfered with its operation. Growing restless as the weeks passed, men brandished knives over the ham when the cook tried to ration it. Had they not been rescued after 18 days, Great Bear owner John Borden later said, this desperation would have been “the first taste of what the winter would have brought.”

    US servicemen stationed on St. Matthew during the Second World War got a more thorough sampling of the island’s winter extremes. In 1943, the US Coast Guard established a long-range navigation (Loran) site on the southwestern coast of the island, part of a network that helped fighter planes and warships orient on the Pacific with the help of regular pulses of radio waves.

    Snow at the Loran station drifted up to around eight meters deep, and “blizzards of hurricane velocity” lasted an average of 10 days. Sea ice surrounded the island for about seven months of the year. When a plane dropped the mail several kilometers away during the coldest time of year, the men had to form three crews and rotate in shifts just to retrieve it, dragging a toboggan of survival supplies as they went.

    The other seasons weren’t much more hospitable. One day, five servicemen vanished on a boat errand, despite calm seas. Mostly, the island raged with wind and rain, turning the tundra to a “sea of mud.” It took more than 600 bags of cement just to set foundations for the station’s Quonset huts.

    The coast guard, worried how the men would fare in such conditions if they were cut off from resupply, introduced a herd of 29 reindeer to St. Matthew as a food stock in 1944. But the war ended, and the men left. The reindeer population, without predators, exploded. By 1963, there were 6,000. By 1964, nearly all were gone.

    Winter had taken them.

    • Student says:

      Nature restored balance.
      It will probably do soon also with all of us, but humans are apparently able to distort things in many creative ways, postponing and modifying events.
      At some point it will happen on a finite planet.

      • Longliner says:

        I have been to St Matthew several times. It is a harsh and I mean harsh place – no place for the weak.

        I was on a boat one time and we dropped off a fellow deckhand that had broken his neck after being thrown up against a bulkhead (wall) during a storm a couple weeks earlier. He’d lay in his rack picking is fingers with a knife saying he couldn’t feel his hands. All I could tell him was I couldn’t feel my hands either.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Excellent work Student. A+ and a lap dance in the VIP room for you!!!

  18. Fast Eddy says:

    “Judge orders hospital to treat Ohio Covid patient with ivermectin” – A judge in Ohio has ordered a hospital to treat a COVID-19 patient with ivermectin

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/aug/31/ivermectin-covid-ohio-judge-orders-hospital

    More than 150 arrested, almost 600 COVID-19 fines issued after wave of anti-lockdown protests

    https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-nsw-updates-lockdown-protests-parliament-police/b7bae9f3-4361-4e99-8cbc-248016d6ccec

    • Rodster says:

      Riots are also taking place in Greece. So add Greece to the list up civil unrest in Europe. This is just the beginning as more and more Plebs begin to figure things out.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        They need the police … and the military to break ranks… otherwise … no go…

        That would lead to ripping of faces so hopefully they stay the course.

  19. Fast Eddy says:

    Effectiveness of COVID vaccines in keeping patients out of hospitals falls to as low as 75% against Delta variant: People over 75 are highest risk

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9943483/Effectiveness-Covid-vaccines-against-hospitalizations-waned-time-CDC-says.html

    Stay Safe … normdunc… and get those Boosters ASAP

    We’re all in this together .. actually only the Injected CovIDIOTS are in this together 🙂

  20. Fast Eddy says:

    Furious travel firms say nightmare Heathrow queues are ‘government strategy to put people off flying overseas’ after passengers were forced to wait five hours at border control

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9943259/Furious-travel-firms-say-nightmare-Heathrow-queues-government-strategy.html

    Must conserve oil … without appearing to be trying to conserve oil

  21. Yoshua says:

    “The end game is when the virus evades… the entire human immune system”. Bossche

    It’s happening…

    https://mobile.twitter.com/ahandvanish/status/1432411002688184320

    • Ed says:

      Devil covid or a really good bio weapon?

      • JMS says:

        I would bet all my riches that the right answer is chemical weapon cooked in a so called bio-lab, since the concept of killer virus is too silly to consider.

    • This refers to a new CDC Study:
      https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/27/9/21-1042_article

      Predictors of Nonseroconversion after SARS-CoV-2 Infection

      “Nonseroconversion” is never making antibodies. 36% of the sample of cases that were detected by PCR tests never led to antibodies being generated.

      Cases that required very high PCR cycles to detect didn’t necessarily make antibodies. (False positive cases? Not really COVID to begin with?)

      Conclusions
      In summary, we show that patients with low SARS-CoV-2 viral loads in their respiratory tract are less likely to mount a systemic antibody response. Although we cannot formally exclude false-positive RT-PCR results in some participants, PCR contamination is highly unlikely as an explanation for our findings (Appendix). We also show that clinical illness does not guarantee seroconversion and that laboratories with highly sensitive RT-PCR assays are more likely to detect serologic nonresponders. These results provide an explanation for the puzzling variability of seroconversion in different cohorts.

      I would not get terribly excited about these findings. My guess is that this reflects quite a few false positives cases. There might be some light cases, especially in young people, that do not result in antibodies either.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Excellent!

      Hopefully only one round of boosters is required to finish the job.

      I’d like to see this wrapped up before Christmas

  22. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Even The Fed Thinks Current Debt Levels Are Unsustainable.

    “The United States is one of the few countries whose treasury, in an act of transparency and with rigorous analysis, has warned its government of the unsustainability of the country’s public finances… Government reports on macroeconomic matters tend to be ambivalent. Nevertheless, this one’s conclusion is decisive: the US government’s fiscal policy is unsustainable.”

    https://www.eurasiareview.com/01092021-even-the-fed-thinks-current-debt-levels-are-unsustainable-analysis/

    • Harry McGibbs says:

      “Is the Fed Ever Going to Taper? Can They?

      “…The problem is that the Fed has made this liquidity bubble so big now post the Global Financial Crisis, that it has become too big to fail. Given the amount of global dollar denominated debt, they cannot let rates rise too much lest they and other governments default on their loans… rates are now close to 0 and even negative, and they have no room to cut if something were to go wrong now.”

      ⁠https://realmoney.thestreet.com/investing/is-the-fed-ever-going-to-taper-can-they–15753759

    • It is hard for me to see how even a slowdown in debt growth can work. In some sense, the economy is running on added debt right now.

  23. Harry McGibbs says:

    “The Chinese economy is continuing to contract according to data published today by the National Bureau of Statistics.

    “The combined index of manufacturing and services industries fell from 52.4 points in July to 48.9 in August. Excluding the early months of the pandemic last year, this is the worst data since the 2008 financial crisis.”

    http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Collapse-of-service-industry-threatens-Xi-Jinpings-'common-prosperity'–53950.html

  24. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Sri Lanka declares food emergency as forex crisis worsens.

    “Sri Lanka has declared a state of emergency over food shortages as private banks run out of foreign exchange to finance imports. With the country suffering a hard-hitting economic crisis, President Gotabaya Rajapaksa on Tuesday said he has ordered emergency regulations to counter the hoarding of sugar, rice and other essential foods.”

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/8/31/sri-lanka-food-prices-emergency-forex-crisis

  25. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Nearly 1 Million U.S. Households Could Be Evicted This Year After Federal Moratorium Expires, Goldman Sachs Estimates.

    “…economists at Goldman Sachs estimate about 750,000 American households will ultimately be evicted later this year as a result of the policy change, with as many as 2 million Americans facing eviction risk—a staggering number despite the federal government’s authorization of nearly $50 billion for rental relief.”

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/jonathanponciano/2021/08/30/nearly-1-million-us-households-could-be-evicted-this-year-after-federal-moratorium-expires-goldman-sachs-estimates/

  26. Harry McGibbs says:

    “The 2008 US housing crisis revealed the shortcomings of securitisation. The opaque, highly complex, interdependent process that moved slices of Kentucky home loans to buyers such as municipalities in Norway was inherently fragile.

    “The extreme confidence that enabled it to exist in the first place inherently set it up for failure. When one conveyor belt in the system failed, the entire chain collapsed.

    “The pandemic era is now raising similar concerns about the just-in-time supply chain model… Much like we saw in the securitisation-driven mortgage market in 2008, what was once a world of overabundance could quickly turn to one of intense scarcity.”

    https://www.ft.com/content/cece55b7-d137-4278-9e21-25ffba999946

  27. Lastcall says:

    There is a petition to NZ parliament re the Injection.
    Very difficult to find on gurgle…..
    Comes up straight away on Duckduckgo.

    Suppression via algorithm.
    Surely a healthy Injection could withstand a healthy debate?
    What do you think Spike?

  28. Student says:

    France tries to save oil…
    As of today in Paris people are required to go by car (or else) at maximum speed of 30 km/h (18.64 mile/h).

    https://www.ansa.it/canale_motori/notizie/attualita/2021/08/30/a-parigi-da-oggi-limite-di-velocita-a-30-kmh-in-citta_f2805cc4-d12e-4032-8723-63245a398d90.html

  29. Fast Eddy says:

    I almost forgot about this:

    https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-queensland-nsw-truck-drivers-protest-against-mandatory-covid-19-vaccine-for-essential-workers/76330fce-f6ea-4c89-a22e-1b9ccd31c03a

    I token gesture… that achieved ZER0…

    Kinda like tossing your spare change into the Save the Children box at the check out .. and expecting to actually … save the children

    https://c.tenor.com/PzviGYKKix8AAAAC/laughing-hysterically-hilarious.gif

    • FE, I’ve seen a couple of indications that blockages have happened, but communications are censored, media is not reporting.

      Eg.,
      https://gab.com/Free_Range_Bum/posts/106854209706032157

      https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/083/740/291/original/be8c7090b25343ba.jpg

      • Fast Eddy says:

        The thing is… even if there was a more widespread effort…. it must have ended fairly quickly.

        I’ve seen this tactic during the Hong Kong protests… thousands of cars attempted to clog the roads by driving very slowly…. they police charged some of them with dangerous driving – a criminal offence…. and that put an end to that ….

        The only way to really have a shot at terrorizing them into changing the policy … would be if the CIA were to donate a massive cache of weapons to the protesters and support them with ammo and advice…..

        I don’t see that happening since they already donated all the weapons to the Tally boys 🙂

        All resistance is futile. At this point protesters are like lambs kicking as their throats are slit….

      • Pekoe says:

        Hi Lidia.

        Not sure where you live but here in Oz my general impression is that communication is not censored in day to day life, and any event such as a highway blockade by truckies would most definitely be on the TV news (such good aerial footage and so on).

        It is so easy to read con spiracy into events to suit your narrative. The recent truckie strike was just a good old pay and conditions dispute with their employer. That employer just so happens to be a huge logistics and transportation company intent on making massive profits for their shareholders – nothing new or interesting there.

        There have also been some sporadic demonstrations on the NSW-Queensland border (including truckies but not exclusively) because of frustrations due to inane policies and bickering between States (Australia being a Federation of States). The situation is pissing off people from all walks of life because it is ultimately impractical and cannot go on forever.

        So it is more a lack of common sense and clear thinking which is the root cause of this issue. Sound familiar?

        • Fred says:

          Mate you’re dreaming, or a troll.

          There was a truckies strike over vaxx and tyranny. MSM blanked it. If you’re watching TV news and thinking that’s the truth, you’re lost in the Matrix.

          Try signing up to Telegram, Australian National Review etc.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            Pekoe – did you forget the sarc tag… please tell me you did….

            Otherwise… I will feel a slight twinge of sympathy for you .. before dismissing you as a useless piece of meat in a skin bag…

  30. Mike Roberts says:

    New Zealand has an medicines event reporting facility, like VAERS. It’s called CARM (Centre for Adverse Reactions Monitoring). Reports are issued weekly. Here is the latest one. All deaths are investigated. There have been 31 deaths reported following vaccinations. 2,483,436 doses of the vaccine (Pfizer) have been administered. Of the 31 deaths, only 1, so far, has been deemed likely to have been caused by the vaccine. 9 cases are still being investigated. So, only 1 death out of 2,483,436 doses is a very rare occurrence (it would still be rare if some of those 9 cases under investigation turn out to be likely caused by the vaccine). I don’t know if the experience in the US is similar but the NZ data do indicate that, at least in terms of deaths, the vaccine is very safe.

    • Tim Groves says:

      From the link:

      Up to and including 14 August 2021, a total of 31 deaths were reported to CARM after the administration of the Comirnaty vaccine. Following medical assessments by CARM and Medsafe it has been determined that:

      17 of these deaths are unlikely related to the COVID-19 vaccine
      4 deaths could not be assessed due to insufficient information
      9 cases are still under investigation.
      1 death was likely due to vaccine induced myocarditis (awaiting Coroner’s determination)

      Meanwhile, so far New Zealand has recorded a grand total of 26 deaths from or with Covid-19 since pandemic started. So the pile of corpses who died from or in association with a jab is bigger than the pile of corpses who died from or in association with the disease the jab is meant to protect against.

      I’m not trying to prove any points here; just playing with statistics.

      • Lastcall says:

        Has been done before with experimnetal Injections….from the military doctor.
        You have to be especially ignorant of history to still cling to the ‘Immunisation narrative’. Useful idiots.

        These shots are not safe.
        They are not effective.
        Same as it ever was, same as it ever will be.

        ‘Same as it ever was…
        Yeah, the twister comes
        Here comes the twister
        Same as it ever was…’

        ‘Dr. Merritt recently addressed the American Frontline Doctors and discussed how all through 2020 there were only 20 deaths among all active duty military personnel related to COVID. However, there are now many reports of tumors and over 80 cases of myocarditis (inflammation of the heart), which has a 5-year mortality rate of around 66%, following the COVID-19 shots given to the military.

        With the vaccine program we’ve ostensibly killed more of our young active duty people than COVID did.

        This is the not the first time the military has been implicated in killing active duty military with experimental vaccines. It happened also during the Gulf War with the experimental anthrax vaccine, which some estimates claim killed 35,000 military people with what was originally termed “Gulf War Syndrome.”

    • Lastcall says:

      Yep just like Vaers, it covers up more than it covers about. So true.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        ZERO autopsies…

          • Fast Eddy says:

            The surgeon who operated on Camilla, who died at 18 after the vaccine: “Something never seen before, it’s not normal”

            The parents of the 18-year-old who died: “She had no disease.” The chief physician who operated on her: “Extremely severe thrombosis”

            On Tuesday the prosecutor of Genoa, which coordinates the investigations of the Nas carabinieri, will instruct the Pavia coroner Luca Tajana to perform the autopsy on the body of Camilla Canepa, the eighteen year old who died after the vaccine. The girl allegedly suffered from chronic platelet deficiency, a “familial autoimmune thrombocytopenia”.

            This was learned by the investigators from the first reports of the doctors. But the girl’s family, assisted by the lawyer Angelo Paone, is firm on this point. “Camilla had no disease,” explains the lawyer, reporting the position of the parents: the investigators will not be able to ignore.

            To operate Camilla al San Martino was Gianluigi Zona, director of the neurosurgical and neurotraumatological clinic of the Polyclinic: “I had never seen a brain reduced in those conditions by such an extensive and severe thrombosis,” he admits.

            At the Polyclinic Camilla had arrived at 5 and six minutes last Sunday, transferred from the Lavagna hospital where she had undergone two CT scans: discharged after the first one who had not highlighted the situation of the thrombosis in progress, immediately transferred after the second when the situation was already compromised. To realize what was happening, would the first CT scan done in Lavagna have been enough?

            Gosh … imagine if this happened to normduncmikethespike after the Booster….

            Fellas … are you concerned?

            BTW – now we know why there were not autopsies in the US even after 11,000 vax deaths were reported hahahahahaahahaha right mike the spike?

          • Fast Eddy says:

            Holy 6789 — her brain exploded!!!

            Who needs Devil Covid when you have Devil Vaccine 🙂

            Hey dunc…. any comment on the 95% efficacy? Haven’t heard you blurt that one out for weeks… wazzzzz up????

            Thus we arrive at 11.58 pm on Saturday 5 June, the new race to the Lavagna hospital and the transfer to Genoa. At San Martino, the neurosurgeon on duty that night is Alessandro d’Andrea who also calls his head physician: they are side by side at the operating table. “We opted for a decompression craniotomy, the skull opened to relieve internal pressure.”

            The blood could not drain and was soaking the brain. «All the venous sinuses were blocked by thrombus, a scenario that I had never seen in many years of this profession. You have to imagine the venous sinus as the river in the center of a valley in which several streams converge. If a dam is built at the center of the watercourse, the river swells and at that point the tributaries are unable to discharge, with the result that the upstream pressure rises ».

            Zona speaks out of the teeth: “I am not a virologist or an epidemiologist or a coroner but, in the face of the picture I saw in that girl’s head, it is clear that we are dealing with something not normal.”

            https://alethonews.files.wordpress.com/2021/07/camilla-canepa-it-dead.jpg

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Let’s get the visuals for Mike the Plug… he may be dyslexic so we need to convey concepts with pictures.

        The human mind is a bizarre thing … you can show a MOREON that the injection is killing and maiming … and they will refuse to accept the evidence.

        Remember Maisy? She was severely maimed by the Injection — and STILL she refuses to acknowledge she f789ed herself… and not only that – she urges others to enter the slaughterhouse.

        In.credible.

        https://envirowatchrangitikei.files.wordpress.com/2021/08/1.suegrey.jpg

        • Rodster says:

          You know what I find really funny about Mike is that he posted a link to someone who was given Ivermectin for Covid 19 and was either injured or died. He called for more studies in the use of that drug.

          “HOWEVER”, he didn’t call for more studies or the banning of these experimental drugs posing as vaccines when we have data that “proves” people have either been injured and killed by these vaccines.

          I posted a story about a mom who had her teenage daughter take two jabs and is now wheelchair bound as she addressed a US Senator.

          So clearly double standards here and it is why you are starting to see more and more riots take shape around the world.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            It’s tough being mike … he has gone his entire life being told what to think … and now … he’s in a very sorry state…

    • Fast Eddy says:

      yes of course… only 1, so far, has been deemed likely to have been caused by the vaccine.

      And some pigs are very sexy!

      Hold tight … most people don’t have jab 2 yet… we’re just getting started…

      Are you able to get the severe side effects data out of there? Of course none of that will have been caused by the vaccine… but just out of interest

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Hey Mike .. the Plug…

      Can you check if they have done autopsies on these 31…. I’m thinking not…

      You just trust them Mike? How would they know if the vaccine did or did not kill those 31 – if there are no autopsies?

      You are a joke. A total and utter joke of a human being

      The first autopsies are only being done after 11000 death reports?

      https://childrenshealthdefense.eu/eu-issues/dr-ryan-n-cole-pathologist-shows-vaccine-damage-is-visible-in-all-human-tissues-and-organs-video-in-en/

      • Xabier says:

        Medical professionals in NZ – and everywhere else – who express the smallest doubts about the whole charade are threatened with termination of their careers, so I am sure we can trust their assessments of the likely cause of death…..

        ‘Sherlock Holmes and the Mysterious Case of the Vanishing Autopsies’.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Yes no point in pushing back… but I would like to find a doctor who understands the lie…and goes about his business with a constant frown on his or her face… due to being forced into playing along.

          The lady I spoke to yesterday definitely is not in that camp.

    • Xabier says:

      Well done, Mike so intelligent of you to take your data from ‘the sole source of truth’ NZ government.

      But thank you all the same for illustrating how mendacious they can be.

      One would never have imagined before all this blew up how utterly corrupt a place it could be.

  31. Fast Eddy says:

    When it comes to vaccinating healthy kids – and you could argue young people up to 25 – there is a case for vaccination but it’s not strong. The COVID-19 death risk is clustered among kids with a comorbid condition, like obesity. Of the more than 330 COVID-19 deaths in kids under age 25, there’s good preliminary data suggesting that most or nearly all appear to be in kids with a pre-existing condition. For kids with concurrent medical conditions, the case for vaccination is compelling. But for healthy kids?

    The risk of hospitalization from COVID-19 in kids ages 5 to17 is 0.3 per million for the week ending July 24, 2021, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. We also know that the risk of hospitalization after the second vaccine dose due to myocarditis, or inflammation of the heart muscle, is about 50 per million in that same age group.

    https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/why-covid-19-vaccines-should-not-be-required-for-all-americans

    I guess Dr CovIDIOT didn’t do much research at all … before she injected her kid …

    On the bright side… I doubt her kid has had injection 2 yet… I sincerely hope for the worst …

    Fast Eddy is a huge fan of consequences when it comes to Stoooopidity….

  32. Fast Eddy says:

    Have you ever been shaking with rage?

    I finally got around to it … The Confrontation Moment

    Let me see if I can recall my just-finished conversation with a doctor (I booked a telephone consult to discuss covid… much better than doing this in person because one can turn purple with rage over the phone and they can’t see you)

    We start off nice and friendly… mentioning a friend who is (was) extremely healthy – had the Pfizer jab — now has permanent heart damage…. that lead me to look at the VAERS site and find out that this perfectly safe vaccine has killed 13,000 and maimed half a million — in the US.

    Then I mention the fact that there are no long term studies on side-effects… and that takes us to the Israel situation – record infections – hospitalizations and deaths on the rise – and now boosters.

    Seems like a lot of bad news here — so why would I want to take this injection I ask the doc.

    She says — because it reduces the chances of serious illness and death.

    I says – healthy people generally do not get seriously ill or die from covid … she says — it is possible you could — I says ya and I could get hit by a car crossing the road… you could she says … so you need to weigh the benefits vs risks and decide…

    My response — the injections have failed in Israel — so what am I supposed to do … have a booster every 3 months – and risk my life and health?

    Well that is a problem she acknowledged.

    We now shift to kids — I mention the two teens we sponsor who are likely to be put in a bad position in terms of school and their part time jobs if they don’t get injected… unlike Fast Eddy (who being a god does not have to work – money just comes to him … like god … and priests)… these kids’ lives will be profoundly affected if they refuse the injection…

    So … help me understand why they would get the injection — 1. it does not stop covid 2. Johns Hopkins data indicates 350ish kids have died from covid — ALL had serious existing illnesses. No healthy kids have died out of 80M. 3. These kids are healthy….

    She says kids can still get seriously ill and die …. Not according to Johns Hopkins … can you provide me with data supporting your assertion? No I don’t have that she says…

    I am incredulous … so you are suggesting these kids have the injection based on what — something you saw on CNN or read on Stuff? You have no data to base your advice on?

    So what are you basing it on — you read that one kid died somewhere? If so then what’s the risk – 1 out of 500 … 1 out of 10 million… or as Johns Hopkins suggests 0 out of 80 million….

    How can you offer medical advice without data?

    Oh well there is data she says … but you just said you had not data… don’t twist my words she says… I says I have reasonably good memory you said you had no data….

    If you do find that data can you kindly forward it to me … it would be very useful in helping me inform these kids on the risks vs benefits of this vaccine … we’ve gone over our 15 minute consultation time so I need to let you go – I will see if I can find anything to send you..

    Punchline — she’s vaccinated her 13 year old!!!

    I had to remind myself of the CEP… that none of this matters… that I should not berate the high priests… and just wait till Devil Covid arrives… and get my revenge then… it’s much better served cold .. and with a laugh 🙂

    • Tim Groves says:

      It’s very helpful to have this record of your conversation with the doctor available. I still have a few friends to lose by attacking their belief systems and I want to be sure to do a good job armed with pertinent facts and assertive and confrontational enough without coming across as angry.

      Actually, scrub that. All the old friends I am still in touch with have been “vaccinated” and now consider themselves “full protected.” They are blissfully unaware that whatever immunity they have is decreasing at a rate of 40% per month and they will need two boosters a year. And they have not an inkling that the more times they are jabbed, the more micro-clots they are bound to develop. Far better to break the emotional connection to them now and simply regard them as acquaintances. This will make it easier to deal with any bad news on the health front and I can get out of all that time-consuming stuff such as pushing them around in a wheelchair, spoon-feeding them, changing their drool-bucket, and attending their funeral.

      On a more optimistic note, I am hearing a lot from younger people in Japan about their “hesitation” to get the vaccine. Just this morning a thirty-something woman I had a business appointment with for the first time, ended the meeting by asking if I’d been vaccinated. I told her with a smile that it was private personal medical information but she was welcome to guess. Then she confessed that she was worried about the risks of taking the jab. She brought up the subject, and I bit my lip and deliberately did not go into a detailed rant about how dangerous I think they are. Instead I suggested she wait until the winter passes, and if most of the people who’ve been vaccinated this year are still healthy next spring, that she could consider the matter then. Also, I added, there will be a Japanese product out by then (Shionogi are developing one), and it would be far safer to have a made-in-Japan medicine than anything brewed up by Big Pharma in America. She seemed relieved to hear this viewpoint.

      Ah, the appeal to patriotism! It works every time.

    • Xabier says:

      Here in the UK they are relying on the very weak, and unethical, argument that even if kids are not really at risk themselves, it’s necessary to ‘reduce the pool of potential infection’ which they represent.

      So, jabbing them for everyone else, not their own sakes.

      Well, every dead child will be one less ‘vector of infection’ I suppose.

  33. Ed says:

    When we see the spent fuel storage ponds being hardened we will know it is the EOTWAWKI.

  34. Ed says:

    Fast, what is happening in NZ?

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Still ZERO covid cases on the South Island … yet we are shut down … food delivery is possible as of today

      Lots of CovIDIOTS dying and maimed as per Last Call’s update …. so it’s not all bad news here.

  35. Things will get tougher for minorities living in out of way places.

    The ‘relocation’ of the Japanese during World War 2 is still legal, since Korematsu (a guy who was brave enough to challenge the decision) vs USA still stands.

    There won’t be any systemic genocide ; it will be local, a ‘low intensity conflict’ but eventually ending badly for the minorities in the end.

  36. nikoB says:

    Worth the read. Finally the papers on spike causing the damage are peer reviewed and published.

    https://market-ticker.org/cgi-ticker/akcs-www?post=243442

    This is all building to a frenetic crescendo.

  37. Woodchuck says:

    I just went to the dermatologist today here in Vermont to have a lump in my elbow checked. One of the doctors came in and asked me if I had been vaccinated for covid. I said no. She said why not? I said because they are not safe or effective, there have been a lot of bad reactions and deaths and they don’t prevent you from contracting the disease. She said but they keep you from dying. Have you talked to a medical professional about the vaccines? I said I’ve done my own research and I will take my chances with the virus. She said we highly recommend you get vaccinated.

    So here in Vermont they have the medical community in their pocket, along with the media and the political leaders.

  38. The Afghan pullback is just the start.

    The history of the USA is a history of expansion. All expansion is followed by contraction. The significance of the sudden Afghan contraction has yet to sink in.

    As the USA expanded from its foundation in 1776, the original colonies, (condensing history here), purchased Louisiana from the French, Alaska from the Russians, took California from the Mexicans; the expansion absorbed the continental mass and pushed out across the Pacific and Caribbean, sucking in the human resource of African peoples, moving resources around for profit.

    Essentially, the ‘American dream’ was predicated on converting the planet into a cash asset. Which is why 0.01% of the people now own about as much as half of the rest of the world’s population combined. This is what unfettered capitalism does.

    Infinite expansion requires infinite energy input. As long as the net (energy) gain was surplus to physical requirements, the ‘American dream’ of infinite growth could sustain itself.

    The point of unaffordability has now been reached, as it was obviously going to. It applies world wide in different degrees, not just to the USA.

    *********

    Unfortunately nation(s) are largely governed by deniers, who must promise infinite growrh. Their jobs and fat salaries depend on it. So voters are told that prosperity can be voted for.
    Biden, as far as I know, is the first POTUS not to have promised ‘more growth’.

    I think he sees what the future holds: from now on there will be only contraction. Pulling out of Afghanistan is the first of many desperate measures.
    Biden knows that growth is over, for good.

    The USA can no longer afford to be global policeman. The USA, and other nations, must look inward for self preservation. Biden also knows that such a thing is impossible in the context of global trade and commercial enterprise. But that too is over. We just don’t know it yet.

    He is aware of what that will mean in human terms.

    Few other leaders really understand it. Most expect BAU will continue with a few minor inconveniences until some future ‘technological breakthrough’ allows humankind to continue unimpeded.
    Our future isn’t going to be like that.

    Looked at over 250 years, this has been a once only ‘pulse’ of outward growth. Only one force made that possible: fossil fuels. But fossil fuels are no longer affordable, and renewable energy sources are offered as a panacea for the unpleasantness to come. They won’t work.
    The ‘outward pulse’ has finished. But 250 years covers 10 generations of humankind, long enough for infinite growth to become accepted and expected as some kind of ‘human right’.

    Even ordained by god in the eyes of many.

    As the means by which all nations expanded are removed, all nations will implode by different rates and degree.

    The USA will not be exempt.

    • Mike Roberts says:

      I don’t know whether Biden promised growth but I don’t think he sees growth as having stopped, even though he sees slower growth after a couple of years. I doubt any politician would even admit to themselves that growth is over, never mind getting the public on board. If growth is over, economies everywhere will collapse as debt won’t be repaid.

    • Hideaway says:

      Sorry Norman, but Biden is just as delusional as the rest, the following from the Whitehouse web page, part of a remark on the economy from the president…

      ” We need to grow the economy from the bottom up and the middle out, as I’ve said before. ”

      https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2021/07/19/remarks-by-president-biden-on-the-economy-3/

      One of the biggest problems is that every politician can only get airtime by calling and believing in ‘growth’ of the economy. None will make it anywhere if they were to promise Tim Morgan’s degrowth, or any type of contraction.

      The world is full of delusion, just the existence of religions and the billions of people that ‘believe’ in some type of deity, is clear evidence in the belief of the religion of ‘economics’ that would have infinite growth on a finite planet, despite all the evidence against it.

      Therefore the only conclusion is that physics wins out as we go into a coll.apse with all economists and politicians wondering why, but trying for ‘growth’ for ‘their people’.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        norm needs to stick to what he knows best – 100lb deadlifts…

        norm – I heard the paralyzed and deformed Olympics is expanding to include a geriatric category … keep up the training …

        • I cannot demean myself to exchange dialogue with someone who finds physical disability amusing.

          no doubt those around you (the admirers of your dress sense) find it so.

          by association they reduce themselves to your level.

          In times past you would no doubt been a frequent visitor to Bedlam. OFW is becoming an excellent substitute for you

          • Fast Eddy says:

            How many hours of the disabled games have you tuned into norm?

            • Exactly the same number as the ‘able’ games

              none

              that wasn’t my point

            • Fast Eddy says:

              But that was mine

              Front page coverage of legless gimps trying to knock a ball over a net?

              How is that any different from holding a geriatric Olympics and giving norm front page with his 100lb dead lift ‘feat’…

            • eddy, i think we can safely conclude that mockery invariably covers inadequacy (in so many respects)

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Well … when it comes down to it … it’s not mockery of the individuals who slither around on the floor trying their very best to bump a ball over a 3 foot net… to them doing so is a tremendous accomplishment … and good for them!

              It’s no different than your outstanding ability to deadlift 100lbs…. good for your norm.

              But is norm not on the front page ‘Old Goat Deadlifts 100lbs!!!’

              Nobody gives a sh it. And nobody gives a sh it about some damaged or deformed human bumping a ball over a 3ft net….

              Where does it end? Shall we have a 100m race involving 800lb slobs crawl along the ground as they Go for Gold?

            • the comment that provoked your response still holds

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Let’s move on … shall we norm?

              HAHAHAHAHAHAHA….hahahhahahaha….HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA…. hahahahaha

              Wasn’t I told if I got the shot — the WORLD — would welcome me??????

              hahahahaha…. HAHAHAHAHA…. hahahahahahaha….

              So why are the Injected allowed into bars and restaurants….. what’s with these… passports?

              Sweden Bans Travelers From Israel, One Of The Most Vaccinated Countries In The World

              Sweden has reimposed entry restrictions for travelers from the US and five other countries, but will consider more lenient rules for vaccinated people.

              The Swedish government today formally extended Sweden’s non-EU/EEA entry ban until October 31st, as The Local reported last week.

              There are several exceptions to the ban including those traveling for specific reasons, as well as from certain countries, but on Thursday six countries were removed from the exempt list of “safe countries”: based on a rise in Covid-19 infections in those countries, from September 6th the entry ban will also apply to countries Kosovo, Lebanon, Montenegro and Northern Macedonia, the United States, and Israel.

              Israel is particularly notable, because while it has long been one of the most vaccinated countries in the world and boasts the highest percentage of population having received a third “booster” shot, at 25%, it is also the country where new latest wave of covid infections has just hit new all time highs.

              https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/sweden-bans-travelers-israel-one-most-vaccinated-countries-world

              https://assets.zerohedge.com/s3fs-public/styles/inline_image_mobile/public/inline-images/israel%20new%20cases.jpg

            • eddy, i thought you reserved most of your ha-has for disabled athletes at the paralympics, in response to them demonstrating that they have more guts than you can ever conceive of (or me for that matter)

              but send them my way if you must, to me, and even more so to them, ’tis but water off a ducks back

              one day you may realise that. As may others who hang on your every word.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              There nothing funny about slithering humans trying to knock a ball over a 3 foot net ….

              Speaking of Guts… how about a marathon race involving this guy and 9 other guys of similar size?

              Now that would take guts…. and it would be a war of attrition

              http://assets.menshealth.co.uk/main/thumbs/34861/lose-belly-fat.jpg

              Enough of that … what’s the purpose of the passports? Particularly when the Injected are MORE contagious should they contract Covid. I reckon instead of passports we brand the Injected CovIDIOTS on their foreheads with a big X … and those of us who did not rush like MOREONS to the Drive Through for the Experiment will know to stay clear of you diseased scum.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              If you want to drill down to it … let’s say this…

              There are 8B people on the planet… the vast majority of them are moreons and id iots….

              As we know Fast Eddy has ZER0 time for such people … in fact he has disdain for them… he sees them as objects to abuse and ridicule… why? … because they claim to be the chosen species… the intelligent species…

              Thus Fast Eddy takes great delight in exposing their id iocy….

              And Fast Eddy is to what — respect a slithering damaged/deformed f789wit trying to bump a ball over a 3 foot barrier?

              Better yet… Fast Eddy is supposed to embrace the misfits and imbeciles of the world with IQs of an apple … when he doesn’t have a kind word for the above average imbeciles….

              Have you lost your mind?

              You are engaging with a full blown hard core misanthrope…. almost all humans are targets. Some easier than others.

          • Tim Groves says:

            To deadlift this prickly subject, I understand where Norman is coming from, but I suspect I’m closer to Eddy’s view of the Olympics and the Paralympics. It is all, essentially, circus—entertainment for the masses to accompany the bread they eat.

            Traditional circuses have been much criticized as “freak shows” or as venues for putting the deformed, the peculiar, or the exotic on public display. The Hottentot Venus, the Elephant Man, the Bearded Lady, the Dwarf shot out of a cannon. All good stuff, actually. We the general public can’t take our eyes off it. But, we’re told, it demeans and dehumanizes the actors, the exhibited ones. robs them of their dignity.

            Thus, the physically handicapped are no longer to be exhibited in circuses, although the physically super-fit still allowed to leap between trapezes, walk the tightrope, or lift enormous weights—because of the unspoken social consensus among normies that the latter are superior, excellent, worthy of admiration, while the former are considered objects of pity or ridicule.

            However, rebrand the circus as the Olympics and the Paralympics and encourage people to show the physically handicapped the same admiration that they naturally show toward the physically super-fit, and hope nobody notices the incongruities inherent in the arrangement.

            I’m not physically fit or adept enough to compete in the Olympics, nor am I physically handicapped enough to qualify for the Paralympics. But never mind that; I suppose I can always identify as transgender and then win a medal in the Women’s Name in the Snow Writing Competition. We do indeed live live in “the best of all possible worlds”.

      • ” We need to grow the economy from the bottom up and the middle out, as I’ve said before. ”

        I’d missed that comment.

        but I think that might have a different twist of meaning, that he sees growth as adding to the well being go poorer people, rather that the top 0.1% as before.

        not that any real growth is possible of course

        • FoolishFitz says:

          Norman, Biden doesn’t know or see anything.
          He is clearly suffering from late stage dementia and struggles regularly to keep any train of thought in his head for more than 30 seconds.
          There are plenty of videos that show this.
          Image trying to finding someone less coherent than Trump and actually succeeding.

  39. Charlie says:

    Again a great article, thanks for your posts they are very interesting.

  40. MM says:

    Island? What Island?
    Google: State of emergency Sri Lanka
    1 hit.
    Here it is:
    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/8/31/sri-lanka-food-prices-emergency-forex-crisis

    • The Tamils will have to pay

    • I note the things now happening:

      “The regulations give wide powers to officials to seize food stocks held by traders, arrest people who hoard essential food and for the government to fix controlled prices.”

      Also:

      Energy minister Udaya Gammanpila has appealed to motorists to use fuel sparingly so that the country can use its foreign exchange to buy essential medicines and vaccines.

      A presidential aide has warned that fuel rationing may be introduced by the end of the year unless consumption was reduced.

      I suppose a shutdown would have similar effect to rationing. It would require a lot less planning, too.

  41. Student says:

    Unfortunately Italy is full of tragicomic news lately.

    Rescuers have not been allowed to get onto the helicopter because they didn’t have green pass.
    They have been obliged to take the long way by ground vehicles to rescue a car fell in the lake.
    New rules ask Rescuers to have proof of vaccination or to have a negative test done 48 hours before the unforeseen event to be rescued…

    Please see:
    https://www.ilgazzettino.it/nordest/primopiano/elicottero_soccorritori_green_pass-6167261.html

  42. Herbie R Ficklestein says:

    The global air cargo sector is flying planes at almost 90% of capacity as record amounts of goods crisscross the globe, bound for free-spending consumers and parts-hungry manufacturers.

    Packed planes pose a challenge for shippers, airlines and airports entering the traditional peak U.S. season for moving goods, when demand increases for consumer electronics, household items and clothing ahead of the holiday-shopping spree.

    Pinch points include overflowing airport cargo warehouses, spilling goods into off-site facilities and exacerbating the shortage of staff to sort, load and unload jets. Airlines have responded by expanding cargo flights beyond the biggest gateways to such cities as Columbus, Ohio, and Tampa, Fla., to avoid congestion. Sometimes the cabins of repurposed passenger planes are used for cargo.

    “We are at the limit,” said Bernhard Kindelbacher, who heads cargo operations in the U.S. and Canada for Deutsche Lufthansa AG , one of the world’s largest airfreight carriers.

    Charles Goodwin, operations director at the Columbus Regional Airport Authority, said car tires packed between the seats of repurposed passenger jets are among the cargo now being flown that once traveled by sea.

    Air Cargo Boom in Supply Chain Crunch Has Car Tires Flying First Class
    Demand for service boosted ahead of holiday shipping season, with cabins of repurposed passenger planes deployed

    From Wall Street Journal
    By Doug Cameron
    Aug. 29, 2021 9:00 am ET

  43. Mirror on the wall says:

    “Limited energy supply first leads to a need for simplification: Stepping back from Afghanistan would be one such type of simplification. It would save energy supplies and reduce the need for greater tax revenue or added debt.”

    A person might suspect that a lot of that sort of thing is ahead. In our own backyard, that is liable to imply the devolution and rupture of the UK into its parts, and particularly the independence of the regions that do not do so well in the present set up.

    Thus energy dissipation is concentrated toward the core, taxes and state expenditure are kept down, and the regions then do as well as they can in other arrangements. The compulsion of the formation and reformation of dissipative structures, including societies and economies, is a basically universal principle of reality.

    • Mirror on the wall says:

      A massive two-thirds (68%) in NI now want a border poll on Irish unity at some point, about half of them within five years and half after. Polls show opinion about the border nearly neck and neck, and just a 4 point swing on the latest poll would secure IU. Support for the UK is particularly concentrated in the oldest demographic, with Protestants about 2/3 of the over 80s and 1/3 of kids in NI. I would imagine that most republicans are happy enough to leave it for another five years or so in order to win it at the first referendum. SF may well be in government both north and south by then.

      > Majority of Northern Irish voters want vote on staying in UK

      Two-thirds of people say a border poll should be held at some point in the wake of Brexit

      Two-thirds of voters in Northern Ireland believe there should be a vote over its place in the UK, but only 37% want it to take place within the next five years, according to a new poll for the Observer.

      Some 31% of voters said there should be a vote at some point about Northern Ireland’s place in the UK but after 2026, the LucidTalk poll found. A further 29% said there should never be such a vote. There is currently a seven-point lead for Northern Ireland remaining part of the UK should any vote take place.

      Asked to state how they would vote, 49% said they would back remaining in the UK, while 42% backed being part of a united Ireland, with 9% saying they did not know.

      There have been persistent concerns within the UK government that the fallout from Brexit could lead to increased support for a united Ireland, with problems still continuing over the Northern Ireland protocol – an element of the Brexit deal that has effectively erected barriers between Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

      https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/aug/29/majority-of-northern-irish-voters-want-vote-on-staying-in-uk

      • Mirror on the wall says:

        The DUP remains in free fall. They got rid of Arlene in a ‘night of the long knives’ and elected the staunch creationist ‘Potty Poots’ who lasted for three weeks before they dumped him for Jeff D. They are blamed for the imposition of an Irish Sea Border. Never much for foresight, they promoted Brexit and then subverted T. May’s deal that would have kept UK aligned with EU customs. It leaves ‘unionism’ splintered three ways and DUP in fourth place. SF seem set to take the post of FM for the first time in May 2022.

        > Shock poll sees support for DUP drop to 13%, Sinn Féin holds firm at 25%

        A new poll has seen support for the DUP slump to 13 per cent, being overtaken by both the Ulster Unionists Party (UUP) and the TUV. The LucidTalk poll for the Belfast Telegraph saw DUP support drop by three points, making it the North’s fourth most popular party, tied with Alliance and the SDLP. Sinn Féin has held firm as the most popular party on 25 per cent, followed by the UUP on 16 per cent, up two points.

        It is the first time in more than 20 years that the UUP has been Unionism’s leading party. Jim Allister’s Traditional Unionist Voice saw big gains, rising by 3 per cent to make it the third most popular party on 14 per cent. But the decline of the DUP continues, with the party dropping three points to 13 per cent since the last poll was taken in May, at a time of chaos in the party when Edwin Poots replaced Arlene Foster.

        It will make worrying reading for Sir Jeffrey Donaldson, who replaced Mr Poots as leader when he stood down after 21 days in the role. The DUP has more than halved in three years, having stood at 31 per cent at the 2019 Westminster election. The results leave Sinn Féin vice president Michelle O’Neill on course to become First Minister after the next Assembly elections due to be held in May 2022.

        https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/shock-poll-sees-support-for-dup-drop-to-13-with-party-now-behind-uup-and-tuv-1177075.html

      • Mirror on the wall says:

        Macron has indicated that the EU will stand fast and that there is zero chance of the EU renegotiating the NIP. NI ‘unionist’ parties have thus nailed their colours to a dead horse. The effect may well be the total disillusionment of ‘unionism’ in NI over the course of the next year. EU will insist that Tories fully implement the NIP with border checks in the Irish Sea; the Tories would risk a full-blown trade war with EU if they refused and went rogue from their treaty obligations, and that seems unlikely.

        > EU will force Britain to stick to Northern Ireland Protocol

        Emmanuel Macron says bloc will stay united over Northern Ireland and post-Brexit fishing rights

        The European Union will force Britain to stick to the Northern Ireland Protocol and never abandon Dublin during tough talks over the Irish Sea border, Emmanuel Macron, the French president, warned on Thursday. On a visit to Dublin, Mr Macron said the EU would stay united over the Northern Ireland Protocol, which the UK wants to renegotiate, as well as post-Brexit fishing rights, which have been a bone of contention between Paris and London.

        “It is an existential issue for the solidarity and the unity of the European Union. So we will make sure that the agreements that are signed after very lengthy negotiations will be complied with when it comes to fisheries, or some well-known protocols. For me, the European Union remains, first and foremost of political project, and we will stand by you,” he said after talks with Micheál Martin, the Irish Taoiseach.

        Mr Martin accused the British Government of having undermined trust by threatening to unilaterally override parts of the Protocol before the summer.

        The UK and EU have been at loggerheads over the implementation of the Northern Ireland Protocol, which created a customs border between Northern Ireland and mainland Britain, since it came into force at the start of the year. The Protocol is part of the Brexit Withdrawal Agreement and means the country continues to follow about 300 EU Single Market rules to prevent a hard border on the island of Ireland.

        https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/08/26/eu-will-force-britain-stick-northern-ireland-protocol/

        • Trust me. The diehards would persist at herring and raw bread but will continue to mess with this forever .

          The Unionists have to be exterminated.

          • Mirror on the wall says:

            That sort of talk helps no one but those who favour the status quo. United Ireland will be non-sectarian and ‘unionists’ will be free to celebrate their own culture and identity, within reasonable limits, just as other communities in UK are free to do so.

            In any case, they will always be free to leave as Ireland and UK have a common travel area. Presumably that is what some of them will do if they really, really do not wish to live in Ireland. Otherwise they will be welcome to stay.

      • It is always the 30% diehard which causes trouble. They will have to be dealt with by UK , just like the Pied Noir was abandoned by De Gaulle.

    • Mirror on the wall says:

      Nicola has today asserted the Holyrood mandate to hold an independence referendum in Scotland. Tories recently conceded that it is damaging and unsustainable to deny Scots a referendum, so it may well be going ahead. Polls in Scotland are on a knife edge and a small swing could decide it either way. Again, time is on the side of independence as it is majorly favoured by a predominantly younger demographic. SNP might be wise not to rush things.

      > Scotland: Nicola Sturgeon says SNP’s deal with Greens makes case for independence referendum ‘undeniable’

      The new power-sharing agreement between the SNP and the Scottish Greens is “ground-breaking” and makes the case for a second independence referendum “undeniable”, Nicola Sturgeon has said.

      Delivering a statement in Holyrood, Scotland’s first minister said the deal cements the Scottish Parliament’s pro-independence majority and means a fresh vote should be sought before the end of 2024 – if the COVID-19 crisis has ended.

      Ms Sturgeon said the mandate for another vote is now secure as the SNP and the Greens hold 72 of the 129 seats in the Scottish Parliament, adding that the reasons for a referendum are “even more important” following the pandemic.

      A 51-page document outlining the agreement confirmed the two parties have agreed to work together on a Scottish independence referendum after the pandemic.

      “This would be within the current parliamentary session on a specific date to be determined by the Scottish Parliament,” the document states.

      https://news.sky.com/story/scotland-nicola-sturgeon-says-snps-deal-with-greens-makes-case-for-independence-referendum-undeniable-12395940

  44. Herbie R Ficklestein says:

    Anyone remember leaded gasoline? I do and used it for my 1964 Ford Falcon straight 6 bagger 200 cu in engine while going to community college back in the late 70s.
    To be honest. Kinda miss that grade of Petro and never felt it did much harm to myself..
    OUR OBSESSION
    The climate economy
    Every industry can be part of the solution — or part of the ongoing problem.
    Tim McDonnell
    By Tim McDonnell
    Climate reporter

    Published August 30, 2021
    The world is officially rid of one particularly insidious fossil fuel that for decades was a major cause of public health problems in developing countries, especially in Africa.

    Officials from the United Nations Environment Program announced on Aug. 30 that Algeria, which was the last country on Earth to use automotive leaded gasoline, stopped producing it earlier this year and depleted its supply in July. The announcement concludes a two-decade campaign by the UN to end global consumption of leaded gasoline in cars and trucks, emissions from which are linked to cancer, heart disease, stroke, decreasing cognitive function, and other health problems, as well as air and water pollution. UNEP estimates that the phaseout will prevent more than 1.2 million premature deaths annually.

    It took half a century to phase out leaded gas
    Up to the 1970s, almost all gasoline contained lead, which was added to crude oil in the refining process in the belief that it made car engines perform more powerfully. But as evidence accumulated linking lead to health problems (and even to crime waves), governments began to turn against it. Japan outlawed leaded gas in 1980; most European countries and the US followed suit in the 1990s, and China and India phased it out by 2000.

    Now. If it took this long to get the lead out of gasoline…ask yourself, how long will it take to get the CO2 out of fossil.

    • I am sure nobody did a study of how bad the air in Algeria was until now.

    • rufustiresias999 says:

      “If it took this long to get the lead out of gasoline…ask yourself, how long will it take to get the CO2 out of fossil.”
      That joke is funny!
      Wait, there’s no CO2 in fossil fuels. There are hydrocarbons. OMG, fossile fuels ARE hydrocarbons!!

    • Mainstream Media seems to follow this path.

      Yahoo news has one article today that is at least more neutral:

      People Are Eating Horse Paste To Fight COVID. These Doctors Are One Reason Why.

      The article is copied over from the Huffington Post, which is not really Mainstream Media.

    • Xabier says:

      I’d rather read:

      ‘ Since we are ruled by dangerous parasites, why don’t we try Ivermectin on this nasty infestation?’

    • nikoB says:

      People are taking it because it works. I had a long conversation with a compounding chemist for human and animal drugs about it and they said that it is fine. It needs to be of a high grade because horses have livers that are far more sensitive than human livers so there would be very little contaminants, just like human IVM. Just make sure you get IVM only paste.

      • Mike Roberts says:

        Had a conversation today with someone whose friends took ivermectin as a prophylaxis. It didn’t work fro them and they all suffered badly from the disease. I see that a prominent Texas mask protester died from COVID-19 after trying to cure it with ivermectin. These people were healthy and not old.

        I still think ivermectin should be trialled more with properly designed RCTs but the evidence, so far, is mixed. A good treatment for COVID-19 might be the ultimate way to get this under control. It’s annoying that money seems to drive people so much that inexpensive treatments aren’t properly researched or funded.

        • There are lots of wrong ways to do things. The fact that someone died doesn’t mean that the drug, in the right amounts, at the right time, wouldn’t work.

          Main Street Media will find every bad result they can to tell us about.

        • Tim Groves says:

          I developed a throat and then a very nasty chest infection last month that could well might have possibly been Covid-19. I didn’t get tested because, frankly, I didn’t care. I dosed with Ivermectin and twenty-four hours later that the infection, whatever it is, was gone.

          My story is anecdotal, but at least it has the merit of being first-hand anecdotal. If everyone relied on anecdotes supplied at third hand by people such as the anonymous friends of Mike’s anonymous conversation partner, where would we be? In the pages of the national Enquirer, no doubt. We quickly reach stories such as “my dentist’s receptionist’s third cousin’s swimming pool maintenance man drank fish-tank cleaner because Donald Trump advised it.” As such, Mike’s anecdote can only be construed as an attempt to muddy the waters and should be discarded as being totally without merit.

          Remember a couple of months ago when India was being report as the most horrific scene of Covid-19 hell? What happened to that story? Are they all dead yet? No. They used ivermectin on a truly massive scale and with spectacular results.

          Interesting to see the prestitutes and whoresponents at Guardian now actively involved in genocide by pushing poison jabs and trying to fool people into not taking cheap and effective medicines. Interesting to see how low people can go when they abandon their basic moral standards.

          Mike, have you ever considered entering for the Olympic limbo dancing competition?

          From The Burning Platform:

          News of India’s defeat of the Delta variant should be common knowledge. It is just about as obvious as the nose on one’s face. It is so clear when one looks at the graphs that no one can deny it.

          Yet, for some reason, we are not allowed to talk about it. Thus, for example, Wikipedia cannot mention the peer-reviewed meta-analyses by Dr. Tess Lawrie or Dr. Pierre Kory published in the American Journal of Therapeutics.

          Wikipedia is not allowed to publish the recent meta-analysis on Ivermectin authored by Dr. Andrew Hill.

          Furthermore, it is not allowed to say anything concerning http://www.ivmmeta.com showing the 61 studies comprising 23,000 patients which reveal up to a 96% reduction in death [prophylaxis] with Ivermectin.

          https://www.theburningplatform.com/2021/08/14/indias-ivermectin-blackout/

          • Mike Roberts says:

            Thanks for the links. I’ve long thought ivermectin could be a game changer. It looks like India and Mexico have made good use of ivermectin, though I haven’t looked at those examples in detail, but I will. As for anecdotal evidence, your and my observations do show that simply stating a counter example (of some position) does not really bolster one’s argument though this seems to be the way many commenters here form and strengthen their opinions.

            • Tim Groves says:

              The point of stating counter example in this case is PRECISELY to demonstrate that the example you gave was merely anecdotal and based on a third-hand anonymous source.

              I agree that it does seem to be the way many commenters here and in the wide world outside form and strengthen their opinions, and it is lamentable that many people who should know better are so intellectually lazy, but as Admiral Rickover might well have said if he was here today, we fight online wars with the cyber-army we have, not the cyber-army we wish we had.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              A CovIDIOT trotted out a fitness trainer who didn’t get the injection and died from Covid.

              I trotted out this https://www.openvaers.com/covid-data

              As you point out a single incident cannot be considered scientific data…. it is meaningless.

              But it sure does scare people!

              In any year the MSM could find hundreds of people who died from the common cold in America … they could splash the home page with photos of people hooked up to respirators nearly dead… with headlines ‘Deadly Cold Virus Strikes Again!’…. for greater effect… find a child dying from the virus….

              Do that enough times and you can convince a MoreON to do just about anything. Because MoreONS are unable to think…. they can only react…. and do what they are told… they are classified as barnyard animals….

          • Xabier says:

            The ‘Indian Apocalypse’ stories have certainly vanished as suddenly as they arrived.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Dr McCullough said he had an 85% success rate if he treated covid early enough with Ivermectin.

          Surely mike the plug understands that 85% is not the same as 100%?

          Do I need to explain that to you as if you were a 4 year old mike?

        • geno mir says:

          In my country when the C19 saga begun the PM gathered a team of the best infectionists, virologists, pulmonary and ICU specialists. Their task was to come up with a protocol for treatment of C19 cases. They did a great job in just a 3 weeks, The protocol was outstanding (all the 200+ pages of it) and outlining in details what, when and how to do in regards to the infected patients. Of course the protocol was built around inexpensive medications and procedures and lot of common sense. The head physician presiding over the team is the ex-boss of my SIL so I got a copy of the protocol (which I apply when treating C19 in family members and friends). Of course a month later when all the ‘vaccines and high tech treatments’ were announced and pushed this treatment protocol was immediately revoked and all healthcare specialists who were still using it were threatened with license termination and job loss.
          Fascinating, isn’t it?

          • Xabier says:

            Thank you, geno mir, excellent information and we see the same pattern pretty much everywhere.

            If there is a tentacle here, and another here, and here, where is the head of the Beast, one wonders?

            • geno mir says:

              It is irrelevant and clear question. The head is where the people with real agency and power are. The ones who truly can project power and enact changes. They are not on the tv or in the government agencies. Those people are the families who were behind the Reneisance and who brought modern banking from the bancos along the canale grande to the world. The families who infiltrated the monk orders after the black death and ultimately seized power inaide of the Vatican. The families who gave green light to the industrial revolution and made our lifestyle possible. Some people call them the black nobility, others refer to them as the hidden hands. I prefer to call them Angels following the analogy in the bible that the Angels watch over us and rule our world.

            • the families who created the industrial revolution were quakers

              one of the reasons for that was that ‘genteel’ business excluded them, so they had to get their hands dirty–hence coal and iron (which formed the basis of the industrial revolution)

              there were no dark murky corridors of religious power involved

            • geno mir says:

              Only the dark murky corridors of capital 🙂

            • the industrial revolution largely financed itself.

              the energy extracted from a coalmine was used, in part, to finance the digging of the next one
              (by selling the coal)

              then the same applied to oilwells.

            • geno mir says:

              Is this a joke? A learned man, an author with a gravitas, no? The industrial revolution was finaced by the government through ‘Consols bonds (this is debt) which at the time brought government borowing from around 10m£ to around 900m£. And this was just a single year – 1818. So bottomline is the industrial revolution was mainly financed through foreign investment/capital. I wonder who were those international capital holders, maybe some casual serfs who were putting their pensions into coal mine stocks or perheps netchants and sailors who were growing fat on their 100£?
              Pardon me but I call bulshit your childish behaviour of giving opinions when facts are being discussed.

            • you are 100 years late

              the industrial revolution started in 1709, it kicked into high speed with the invention of the viable steam engine around 1776

              energy creates and underpins money. Steam engines made industrialised finance possible. Not big bank accounts.

              money does not, and never has created and underpinned energy. Investment bonds could not be issued without the surety of vast amounts of surplus cheap energy as collateral—in 1818 that meant coal. + all the factories that were powered by coal.

              Without FF energy you just have empty buildings.

              Nobody extracts value from empty buildings.

              forward investment (using that collateral) forced the ongoing means of primary energy production (deep coalmines) and subsequent output of fossil fuel driven industries. The nature of the industry itself is irrelevant.

              Every industry/investment requires energy input to support the ongoing value of it. Jeff Bezos is the wealthiest man on the planet–but only so long as the rest of us expend energy in playing his game of ”pass the parcel’
              ‘Investing money in Amazon will pay no dividend without energy input.. Corporate finance just doesn’t work like that.

              How difficult is it to understand that.?

              This is why our industrial system is now losing impetus—the (cheap surplus) energy that created it is now becoming too expensive to use in order to expand the bubble of corporate finance.

              Call BS if you must, (all that does is reveal your lack of knowledge of the subject) the information is there if you choose to research it properly. (not via my writings please–there’s lots of other sources)

              If you still fail to understand, borrow money in excess of your existing assets, spend it,. Then try to repay it without expending energy..

              https://extranewsfeed.com/the-day-that-made-your-life-possible-42f6a56c0705

            • geno mir says:

              I am more than 300 years late to the discussed events. Quite obvious, isn’t it? Cited year is just one example of many which shows that IC was born through private international financing.

              As I pointed earlier to the fact that that massive amount of money (non-fiat currency in fact) was made available through debt financial instruments enacted by the government through the BoE. It is all there, in the recorded balance books.

              They started the issuance in mid 18c and guess what, the bonds are still being paid (or were paid off couple of years ago). Yes, the Consols are perpetual bonds and they still bear interest and provide profit (something which cannot be said about the 18c coal mines and plants).

              I also like how you say ‘invention of the viable steam engine in 1776’,please do spare me. Every kid in proper school knows the steam engine (which is basically decoupled and exteriorised icu) was around even in BC times. It was perhaps greek or roman (or maybe even Egyptian) invention which was used to amuse guests at parties. Do you know why it was nothing mire than a fancy toy in thise roman times? Because muscle energy (mostly provided by slaves) was great deal cheaper (this means that ECoE of slaves was multiple times lower than that of any other form of energy).

              And of course i know what economy is, a pure energy system. I know this thing since late 90s and have come to this conclusion through observation of biological/biochem processes. Which i believe gives me supreme and better knowledge on the topic.

              In contrast to you i know that all energy systems make difference between useful and non-useful energy which brings us to the premise that money can’t create energy or resources (100% valid). But you omit very important thing here – while money does not create energy and material outputs they are the interface which makes changes in the economy system possible (yes, we are speaking about structural/qualitative changes).

              What i am saying is that money has the ability to quantify non-useful energy into useful energy (you eat carbohydrates, proteins and fats which are macroenergy molecules packed with calories but your cell can use only energy derived from the chemical bonds of glucose and even this energy needs to be further quantified into the energy of the chem bonds of ATP) thus creating the needed complexity and supporting subsystems which provided for thr scaling of industrialisation.

              How do you think all other economic activities were balanced so that needed inputs for industry cycles were made available (and please stop with Quakers toiling coals on their backs)? Coal mines and factories were on agri lands, factories and mines required raw materials (sunk cost) for construction and maintenance which often needed to be imported further requiring bigger fleets and more crews and new ports bringing ultimately the number of people employed in food production lower and lower (que food imports for thr muscle energy and thus bringing even more complexity).

              This is just ultra simplified version of the complexity which was created so that Industrialisation could be scaled. And while money didn’t provided any of the needed material and energy inputs it provided for purchasing of lands, fleets, raw materials, salaries and so on and so forth. Money has the power to quantify energy and materials into useble blocks, it is interface which provides liquidity for immediate use based on future claims.

              I think you have issue with scaling and extrapolating the complexity of the supporting economic activities which made industrialisation possible. By the way can you tell me which was the primary energy source through 18c and the 1st half of 19c? Yeah, it was still wood although coal was available. I bet you can’t tell why wood was still dominant. Wood was more easily quantified than coal in the 1700s and early 1800s – easy to obtain, transport and store ultimately making it the best energy source available for consumption on demand (much like ATP). And yes, thousand times yes, this wood thing was possible due to the already built supporting economic activities and subsystems making possible quantifying of wood derived energy on a scale.

              Another analogy is that every energy delivering activity needs certain amount of sunken costs in order to scale. So tell me how you provide for those? You provide by financing and investment backed by existing assets (in 18-19c these were coal, factories and dirt cheap labour). Observing that you fail to make the adequate conclusion of how money (future claims) is connected with the real economy. If your assessment was correct the times of the IR in England would have been lot more similar to the process of industrialisation of Mao’s China (maybe the poor dying of hunger––Chinese are their Quakers) almost decimating society without providing economic expansion.

              Those are the facts Norman as I see them. You need to be able to integrate them into your analysis.

              [Note: Commet edited by Gail mostly, by adding paragraph breaks. Also, rhetoric was toned down.]

            • first, we have to get rid of the Aeolipile ‘steam engine’. concept.

              It had no usable work output, so was no more than a curiousity.

              were this not so, we would have had our industrial revolution in the BC era–we didn’t.

              Wood was the prime energy resource until (depending where you lived) modern times. But in the 18th c wood became impractical to use (via charcoal) to smelt iron.

              in UK–(where the IR kicked off) We were running out of trees. Trees were also needed to build ships, houses, weapons and so on. Trees were ‘capital’, but not until they were converted into something else.

              Until the 18th c the growth of humankind was limited to the speed of tree and plant growth.
              After about 1750–the population jump is clearly visible on numerous charts.

              The growing demand was for iron—the very rough conversion is 1000 tons of tree=100 tons of charcoal=1 ton of iron—you do the math relative to forest consumption.
              It wasn’t possible to build iron ships and railways using charcoal as a fuel base.

              The Quakers found a better way–using coal (coke) instead of charcoal. Coal as a source of smelting had too many impurities.

              You seem to have missed that critical bit. Research–research–then more research. Before you put finger to kb. Info is freely available.
              It was cheap iron, using coke, that made the IR possible, not money. ‘Investment’ followed the energy source, not the other way around. Cheap surplus energy paid high yields.

              Mines and iron furnaces were a good place to put money into. (check Carnegie) Burning coal made fortunes–(check Vanderbilt)

              With cheap iron it was possible to build cheap steam engines. In 1776 James Watt perfected the steam engine to ‘modern’ principles. This enabled sinking of deep mines because steam driven pumps could pump water out. (it really was that simple)
              That was the next critical factor.
              Not possible to mine deep coal if water made access impossible.

              Steam power also provided the necessary machining of fine tolerances essential for moving parts of steam engines.

              Deep mines gave access to colossal amounts of cheap coal which in turn drove the energy force to sink more and more mines = more and more coal.
              Coal delivered the necessary energy to mine itself.

              So from the 1820s you had iron ships, from 1840s iron railways.

              By 1860, the next big power source was oil.
              Steam power allowed sinking of deeper and deeper wells.
              But that’s another story.

              All this is independently verifiable. I can only suggest you check it out for yourself if you’ve a mind to. No concern of mine either way, read alternative nonsense if that’s easier –I just present established information in a reasonably concise form. Take it or leave it. Doesn’t change anything.

              No flowery rhetoric necessary.

            • geno mir says:

              Did i ask you for the history of IR? Are we discussing the historical aspect of IR. I don’t think so. We are arguing about a collosal amount of capital which was borrowed by the government during the IR and which is still being paid back to the investors. Just go to the page of the Exchequer and read it ffs. This is wat we discuss and argue about norman.

              So Norman, answear me please, why the gov borrowed that money , why they are paying a perpetual bonds interest for 300+ years? While you are trying to move the goal posts of our discussion once again i will see what are the options for vacation in Venezuela, you know this little country with the biggest reserves of oil, i hear it is mighty rich and the gov has had big succes in developing those enormous energy reserves without any investment.

            • I think a big part of the issue is oil prices being too low. If oil prices were $200 or $300 per barrel, everyone would see that there were lots of uses for this oil at such a high price, and it would be possible for some investors to borrow money to support it.

              I agree that debt (or sale of shares of stock, which is pretty much equivalent) is required. The nuclear power plants in Georgia (where I live) are being supported by a combination of

              (1) Funds being collected from current electricity utility customers. They are effectively a tax on current (mostly fossil-fuel based) electricity.
              (2) A plan for debt for the utilities that expect to get the benefit of these nuclear power plants.

              There certainly does have to be some way of funding any new energy infrastructure.

            • I’m afraid the history of IR is inextricable from the current condition in which we find ourselves.

              the IR was predicated on the extraction of use of materials into infinity. No1 being cheap iron.

              I make the point again:

              Without cheap iron, no form of industrial /commercial civilisation would have been possible.

              ‘Spending/borrowing money would have been pointless

            • We needed a whole system for the industrial revolution. Cheap iron ore is certainly an important part of the system. Some sort of funding is also required. In effect, it gives the funders part of future proceeds, in return for funds to pay workers needed to create the system. This funding is necessary, because the whole system is more valuable than just the iron ore in the ground and the coal in the ground. Human labor must be added to the system to make it work. This human labor needs to be paid for, before the system comes into operation. This is the need for the pre-funding. Often it is debt, but it can also be shares of stock. Or, governments can appropriate tax revenue from some other operation, if there are any (say oil revenue to pay for renewables as they are built).

            • its not about cheap iron ore—it’s the metal itself that must be produced cheaply in vast quantities.

              Iron ore=into metal, as a process had been around for 000s of years.

              The difference lay in the quantity and speed/cost of production.

              no other element exists, (in quantity) that can facilitate the manipulation of almost all other materials.

              that is the key factor that made everything else possible.

              The promise of that manipulation created the impetus for investment on an ever growing scale. Investors were not interested in piles of coal and sheets of iron—they saw vast profits in iron rails and steam engines, in iron ships and rapid transit of goods. (and weapons of course)

              Funding was attracted by the obvious profits to be made from vastly increased rates of production.

              Invest in a canal, say, and 1 horse could move 100 times as much coal on water as by road. Thus coal (and everything else) became far cheaper at the point of consumption, even though canal charged a toll per ton transported.
              So ordinary people found themselves able to burn more coal. (and buy more ‘stuff’)

              So coal owners dug more canals, then later built more railways. This generated the base-need for more and bigger towns, and their support structure.

              The labour-investment was the wages of about 1000 men for a few years. They did it with picks and shovels

              That was what created the incremental structure of our industrial society.

              London at its present size was made possible by iron rails, and the steam engines that used them. As were most modern cities.
              It isnt possible to make iron rails in a blacksmiths forge.

            • You are right. There are lots of pieces of the overall system. It is normally built up over time. This is what “self-organizing systems” are all about. You need the finished products, and the people who can afford the finished products. You also need the factories.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              norm … has been schooled…..

            • try to stop putting together one liners eddy

              its a skill you dont have

              they are merely embarrassing to read in their ineptitude

            • Fast Eddy says:

              After being exposed as a geriatric in decline who is operating with the cognitive ability of an average 10 year old.. norm is now sulking…

              Cheer up norm … I heard you are high on the Booster list… that should increase your deadlift to 150lbs… if you survive a couple of more Boosters you might make it to the Old Goat Olympics.

              We’ll cheer you on if make the cut

            • geno mir says:

              Scoolimg requires inquiring mind. In this particular case i am not so sure.

            • Tim Groves says:

              Geno, don’t mind Norman. He’s been double-jabbed and hasn’t noticed that this has exploded his brain.

              Also, he has no solid understanding or detailed knowledge of the history and development of capitalism, although being a prudent man, he does have a pension with the Prudential. So he’s ignorant of the role that Italian capital played in financing the British Industrial Revolution.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              norm’s body is surging with spikes from the Injections … I am surprised he is able to type.

              Go norm go… Fight it norm…. you need to make it to the Booster Shot

    • Azure Kingfisher says:

      “The WHO Model List of Essential Medicines (aka Essential Medicines List or EML, published by the World Health Organization (WHO), contains the medications considered to be most effective and safe to meet the most important needs in a health system. The list is frequently used by countries to help develop their own local lists of essential medicines. As of 2016, more than 155 countries have created national lists of essential medicines based on the World Health Organization’s model list. This includes countries in both the developed and developing world.”

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WHO_Model_List_of_Essential_Medicines

      “Ivermectin was discovered in 1975 and came into medical use in 1981. It is on the World Health Organization’s List of Essential Medicines. Ivermectin is FDA-approved as an antiparasitic agent. In 2018, it was the 420th most commonly prescribed medication in the United States, with more than one hundred thousand prescriptions.

      “During the COVID-19 pandemic, misinformation was widely spread claiming that ivermectin is beneficial for treating and preventing COVID-19. Such claims are not backed by credible scientific evidence.”

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivermectin

      The trouble with formally acknowledging Ivermectin as a successful treatment for COVID-19 is that it would render void the Emergency Use Authorization status of the “vaccines.”

      • JMS says:

        So much chemicals, and every one of them our health’s best friend. Believe it, it is 100% safe & guaranteed… by its manufacturers.
        Try again, chemical-financed-WHO….!!!

  45. Harry McGibbs says:

    Taliban goes green:

    “A Taliban official says the extremist group will help the world tackle climate change now it has seized power in Afghanistan… In 2018 the Somali militant Islamist group al-Shabaab banned single-use plastic bags.”

    https://uk.news.yahoo.com/taliban-pledges-tackle-climate-change-125050807.html

    • Jarle says:

      Who said the westernization of Afghanistan was a failure?

      • MonkeyBusiness says:

        It was a failure. When the Taliban first came to power, they set about eliminating opium production successfully. Then the Western monkeys came onboard and opium production skyrocketed. No surprises really since Gringos over at the States love that stuff.

        • Opium is probably Afghanistan’s only profitable export.

          • MonkeyBusiness says:

            Hard to tell what’s truly profitable nowadays given the amount of subsidies and debt out there. The good news is pretty soon (hopefully) the tide will go out and all the naked boys and girls will be exposed!!!

          • geno mir says:

            Back in 2006-2009 one local NGO secured funds from coalition for a agri program in afghanistam. You see, here one of the most unique crops is the rose (and its rose oil). The roses are Damascene roses which grow better here (in one particular valley called The valley of the Thracian Kings) and are of highest quality compared to the real Damascene roses. In Afghanistan there are lot of such valleys which can sustain big crops of those particular roses. So this NGO went there and started to teach the farmers how to cultivate, grow and gather the roses. They even built numerous rose oil distilleries. Everything was going really nice, record number of farmers were abandoning the opium crops in favor of the rose ones. Some years later and the GFC is in full swing, you know the one that puts the Empire in dire needs of profit. I guess you all already know what the outcome was. All rose plots were burnt down in the space of few months by combined operations of the army, see i eye and local bought warlords.

  46. Harry McGibbs says:

    “The pandemic-induced global slump is just part of a 20-year financial crisis… the global economy is in the middle of a long crisis – as it was when the first Jackson Hole symposium was held – and there’s not a lot Powell et al can do about it.

    “Central banks have been chucking copious amounts of cheap money at the global economy for the past 12 years… The strategy of central banks …is played out…. the financial crash of 2008 and the pandemic-induced slump of 2020 are part of one long crisis stretching back two decades.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/aug/25/pandemic-global-slump-20-year-financial-crisis

    • Harry McGibbs says:

      “Central banks cannot really taper in this slowdown…

      “The United States would go into a severe recession if it were not “doping ” the economy… The unsustainable fiscal situation of developed countries makes a serious normalization of policy impossible… The ECB is the only buyer of Italian and Spanish debt, according to the IIF (Institute of International Finance), and this disguises an imminent risk but does not eliminate it…

      “Central banks are faced with the devil’s alternative created by their own policy. Either let inflation run and create a stagflation problem or scare the markets by reducing purchases. They will choose the first, without a doubt.”

      https://www.bbntimes.com/global-economy/central-banks-cannot-really-taper-in-this-slowdown

  47. Harry McGibbs says:

    “The World Is Still Short of Everything. Get Used to It.

    “Pandemic-related product shortages — from computer chips to construction materials — were supposed to be resolved by now. Instead, the world has gained a lesson in the ripple effects of disruption.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/30/business/supply-chain-shortages.html

  48. Mirror on the wall says:

    Brendan is quite funny today. But characteristically, the issue is black and white for him, and there has to be some absolute propositional truth. Thus he draws extreme conclusions like that it would be preferable that an entire species should go extinct, or every cat and dog in Afghanistan die, than that a single human should die. So, he really struggles (perhaps rightly?) with the evacuation of abandoned pets from Afghanistan while some people are left behind.

    > One Afghan human being is worth more than a million Afghan dogs

    Pen Farthing’s animal-rescue mission has been a repulsive spectacle.

    Imagine you’re an Afghan who assisted the British. You put your neck on the line to interpret for an NGO or give advice to diplomats. You risked the wrath of one of the most ruthless movements in the world – the Taliban – because you believed the Brits when they said they wanted to help make your country a better, more tolerant place. And now you’re cowering in a safe house in Kabul, dreading the vengeance of the victorious Taliban, and you peruse the internet to see what your former allies in Britain are talking about. ‘Are they worried about people like me?’, you wonder. Then you see it. It’s all over social media and the mainstream media, too. They’re worried, that’s for sure – about cats and fucking dogs.

    There have been many disturbing things about the manner in which American and NATO forces have withdrawn from Afghanistan. It has been chaotic and bloody. The US has left a vast cache of weapons and humvees and helicopters for the Taliban to claim. But for me, one of the most disturbing things has been the British media elite’s warped focus on Afghan pets, on getting animals out of Afghanistan. I have always felt a little perplexed by British people’s soppy relationship with beasts; nothing reminds me of my foreignness more than seeing full-grown British adults cooing over their cats or snogging their dogs. And yet even I have been shocked by the undue emphasis – scrap that: the immoral emphasis – that the British media have given to Afghanistan’s four-legged creatures. It is a disgraceful failure of humanity to fret about animals when so many human beings are in mortal danger.

    This all springs from Pen Farthing’s eccentric and highly irritating crusade to rescue pets from the Taliban dystopia. Farthing is a former Royal Marine who founded Nowzad, a charity that rehomes destitute dogs and cats from Afghanistan. I’ll never understand people who focus their moral energies on saving animals in parts of the world where humanity is suffering so profoundly. Like when crazy rich ladies leave all their money to donkey sanctuaries in the Holy Land, making you want to knock on their coffin and ask: ‘Do you know how many people in that part of the world face hard times?’ Farthing’s campaign to get 150 of his mutts and moggies to safety has thrilled those weird middle-class people who just cannot connect to a global tragedy unless there’s a sad-eyed dog involved. And it has dominated much of the media coverage of the Afghan withdrawal over the past week.

    It has been a complete mess. To his critics – who wondered, quite rightly, why the hell we were even contemplating chartering a plan for cats and dogs when there are people who need our help – Farthing pointed out that his airplane would also be evacuating his charity’s staff. But that didn’t happen. It turned out that his employees didn’t have the right paperwork. Meaning that 68 people and their families, including 26 children, were left behind, while 150 cats and dogs soared off to a new life in the West. If this doesn’t make you feel just a little nauseous, then we are not on the same moral page. Someone needs to say it: if more time and effort had been spent on fixing the papers of those 68 desperate Afghan humans, and less on blubbing over a few score pets, then maybe it would be them flying to a new life rather than some future pet for a posh Home Counties cat lady….

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2021/08/31/one-afghan-human-being-is-worth-more-than-a-million-afghan-dogs/

    • Mirror on the wall says:

      The plot thickens. These poor doggies dumped by Biden – along with hundreds of USA civilians and thousands of allies.

      > ‘Not a great day for America’s service dogs’: US military abandoned dozens of K-9s alongside planes, Chinooks and Humvees worth BILLIONS in scramble to leave Kabul

      Dozens of contracted working dogs (left) have been abandoned by the US in Afghanistan, along with up to 200 civilians and military equipment. An animal welfare group has condemned the ‘death sentence’ for the animals who now face ‘torture’ by the Taliban. American Humane has called on Congress to rescue the purpose-trained dogs who perform a wide range of duties and work alongside military dogs. The organization has worked with the military for more than a century to rescue stranded military animals, having previously worked in World War One.

      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9943275/US-abandons-dozens-contracted-working-K-9s-alongside-planes-Chinooks-Humvees-Kabul.html

      • They will be adopted by the Taliban.

        When Japan was kicked out from Manchuria, there were a few hundred Japanese orphans.

        Chinese families took them and they grew up as Chinese. Some of them later returned to Japan, but quite a few of them returned back to China since they were used to the Chinese lifestyle and could not stand Japan.

        • Tim Groves says:

          I know quite a few Japanese that were born or raised in Manchuria and had to evacuate back to Japan at the end of the war. The “evacuation” was chaotic, and many people died, but many Japanese people were helped by members of the indigenous population of Manchuria—who included and still include Manchus, Koreans and Han Chinese—to survive and return to Japan. Their stories demonstrate that there can be an enormous amount of goodwill around even during very troubled times.

    • I have never seen any stupider comment than ‘a human is more important than an animal’.

      Maybe an afghan human might be more valuable than an afghan dog, However, a human is much less valuable than, say, a panda.

      • Duncan Idaho says:

        “However, a human is much less valuable than, say, a panda.”

        Bingo!
        We have a winner

        • Bei Dawei says:

          What’s black and white, but red all over?

          • Tim Groves says:

            A newspaper. Or more precisely, a communist newspaper.

            What’s long, thin, covered in skin, red in parts, and goes in tarts?

            (Oh, I know what you’re thinking, with a mind like yours, but nope, you’re stone cold.)

      • Mike Roberts says:

        Well, yes. A human is an animal so that would be a pretty stupid comment. However, I guess it’s quite reasonable for a human to consider other humans more important than members of other species, though I’m sure that some here would not agree. Personally, I don’t think that there is any objective reason to think that, only subjective reasons.

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