When the Economy Gets Squeezed by Too Little Energy

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Most people have a simple, but wrong, idea about how the world economy will respond to “not enough energy to go around.” They expect that oil prices will rise. With these higher prices, producers will be able to extract more fossil fuels so the system can go on as before. They also believe that wind turbines, solar panels and other so-called renewables can be made with these fossil fuels, perhaps extending the life of the system further.

The insight people tend to miss is the fact that the world’s economy is a physics-based, self-organizing system. Such economies grow for many years, but ultimately, they collapse. The underlying problem is that the population tends to grow too rapidly relative to the energy supplies necessary to support that population. History shows that such collapses take place over a period of years. The question becomes: What happens to an economy beginning its path toward full collapse?

One of the major uses for fossil fuel energy is to add complexity to the system. For example, roads, electricity transmission lines, and long-distance trade are forms of complexity that can be added to the economy using fossil fuels.

Figure 1. Chart by author pointing out that energy consumption and complexity are complementary. They operate in different directions. Complexity, itself, requires energy consumption, but its energy consumption is difficult to measure.

When energy per capita falls, it becomes increasingly difficult to maintain the complexity that has been put in place. It becomes too expensive to properly maintain roads, electrical services become increasingly intermittent, and trade is reduced. Long waits for replacement parts become common. These little problems build on one another to become bigger problems. Eventually, major parts of the world’s economy start failing completely.

When people forecast ever-rising energy prices, they miss the fact that market fossil fuel prices consider both oil producers and consumers. From the producer’s point of view, the price for oil needs to be high enough that new oil fields can be profitably developed. From the consumer’s point of view, the price of oil needs to be sufficiently low that food and other goods manufactured using oil products are affordable. In practice, oil prices tend to rise and fall, and rise again. On average, they don’t satisfy either the oil producers or the consumers. This dynamic tends to push the economy downward.

There are many other changes, as well, as fossil fuel energy per capita falls. Without enough energy products to go around, conflict tends to rise. Economic growth slows and turns to economic contraction, creating huge strains for the financial system. In this post, I will try to explain a few of the issues involved.

[1] What is complexity?

Complexity is anything that gives structure or organization to the overall economic system. It includes any form of government or laws. The educational system is part of complexity. International trade is part of complexity. The financial system, with its money and debt, is part of complexity. The electrical system, with all its transmission needs, is part of complexity. Roads, railroads, and pipelines are part of complexity. The internet system and cloud storage are part of complexity.

Wind turbines and solar panels are only possible because of complexity and the availability of fossil fuels. Storage systems for electricity, food, and fossil fuels are all part of complexity.

With all this complexity, plus the energy needed to support the complexity, the economy is structured in a very different way than it would be without fossil fuels. For example, without fossil fuels, a high percentage of workers would make a living by performing subsistence agriculture. Complexity, together with fossil fuels, allows the wide range of occupations that are available today.

[2] The big danger, as energy consumption per capita falls, is that the economy will start losing complexity. In fact, there is some evidence that loss of complexity has already begun.

In my most recent post, I mentioned that Professor Joseph Tainter, author of the book, The Collapse of Complex Societies, says that when energy supplies are inadequate, the resulting economic system will need to simplify–in other words, lose some of its complexity. In fact, we can see that such loss of complexity started happening as early as the Great Recession in 2008-2009.

The world was on a fossil fuel energy consumption per capita plateau between 2007 and 2019. It now seems to be in danger of falling below this level. It fell in 2020, and only partially rebounded in 2021. When it tried to rebound further in 2022, it hit high price limits, reducing demand.

Figure 2. Fossil fuel energy consumption per capita based on data of BP’s 2022 Statistical Review of World Energy.

There was a big dip in energy consumption per capita in 2008-2009 when the economy encountered the Great Recession. If we compare Figure 2 and Figure 3, we see that the big drop in energy consumption is matched by a big drop in trade as a percentage of GDP. In fact, the drop in trade after the 2008-2009 recession never rebounded to the former level.

Figure 3. Trade as a percentage of world GDP, based on data of the World Bank.

Another type of loss of complexity involves the drop in the recent number of college students. The number of students was rising rapidly between 1950 and 2010, so the downward trend represents a significant shift.

Figure 4. Total number of US full-time and part-time undergraduate college and university students, according to the National Center for Education Statistics.

The shutdowns of 2020 added further shifts toward less complexity. Broken supply lines became more of a problem. Empty shelves in stores became common, as did long waits for newly ordered appliances and replacement parts for cars. People stopped buying as many fancy clothes. Brick and mortar stores did less well financially. In person conferences became less popular.

We know that, in the past, economies that collapsed lost complexity. In some cases, tax revenue fell too low for governments to maintain their programs. Citizens became terribly unhappy with the poor level of government services being provided, and they overthrew the governmental system.

The US Department of Energy states that it will be necessary to double or triple the size of the US electric grid to accommodate the proposed level of clean energy, including EVs, by 2050. This is, of course, a kind of complexity. If we are already having difficulty with maintaining complexity, how do we expect to double or triple the size of the US electric grid? The rest of the world would likely need such an upgrade, as well. A huge increase in fossil fuel energy, as well as complexity, would be required.

[3] The world’s economy is a physics-based system, called a dissipative structure.

Energy products of the right kinds are needed to make goods and services. With shrinking per capita energy, there will likely not be enough goods and services produced to maintain consumption at the level citizens are used to. Without enough goods and services to go around, conflict tends to grow.

Instead of growing and experiencing economies of scale, businesses will find that they need to shrink back. This makes it difficult to repay debt with interest, among other things. Governments will likely need to cut back on programs. Some governmental organizations may fail completely.

To a significant extent, how these changes happen is related to the maximum power principle, postulated by ecologist Howard T. Odum. Even when some inputs are inadequate, self-organizing ecosystems try to maintain themselves, as best possible, with the reduced supplies. Odum said, “During self-organization, system designs develop and prevail that maximize power intake, energy transformation, and those uses that reinforce production and efficiency.” As I see the situation, the self-organizing economy tends to favor the parts of the economy that can best handle the energy shortfall that will be taking place.

In Sections [4], [5], and [6], we will see that this methodology seems to lead to a situation in which competition leads to different parts of the economy (energy producers and energy consumers) being alternately disadvantaged. This approach leads to a situation in which the human population declines more slowly than in either of the other possible outcomes:

  • Energy producers win, and high energy prices prevail – The real outcome would be that high prices for food and heat for homes would quickly kill off much of the world’s population because of lack of affordability.
  • Energy consumers always win, and low energy prices prevail – The real outcome would be that energy supplies would fall very rapidly because of inadequate prices. Population would fall quickly because of a lack of energy supplies (particularly diesel fuel) needed to maintain food supplies.

[4] Prices: Competition between producers and customers will lead to fossil fuel energy prices that alternately rise and fall as extraction limits are hit. In time, this pattern can be expected to lead to falling fossil fuel energy production.

Energy prices are set through competition between:

[a] The prices that consumers can afford to pay for end products whose costs are indirectly determined by fossil fuel prices. Food, transportation, and home heating costs are especially fossil fuel price sensitive. Poor people are the most quickly affected by rising fossil fuel prices.

[b] The prices that producers require to profitably produce these fuels. These prices have been rising rapidly because the easy-to-extract portions were removed earlier. For example, the Wall Street Journal is reporting, “Frackers Increase Spending but See Limited Gains.”

If fossil fuel prices rise, the indirect result is inflation in the cost of many goods and services. Consumers become unhappy when inflation affects their lifestyles. They may demand that politicians put price caps in place to somehow stop this inflation. They may encourage politicians to find ways to subsidize costs, so that the higher costs are transferred to a different part of the economy. At the same time, the producers need the high prices, to be able to fund the greater reinvestment necessary to maintain, and even raise, future fossil fuel energy production.

The conflict between the high price producers need and the low prices that many consumers can afford is what leads to temporarily spiking energy prices. In fact, food prices tend to spike, too, since food is a kind of energy product for humans, and fossil fuel energy products (oil, especially) are used in growing and transporting the food products. In their book, Secular Cycles, researchers Peter Turchin and Sergey Nefedov report a pattern of spiking prices in their analysis of historical economies that eventually collapsed.

With oil prices spiking only temporarily, energy prices are, on average, too low for fossil fuel producers to afford adequate funds for reinvestment. Without adequate funds for reinvestment, production begins to fall. This is especially a problem as fields deplete, and funds needed for reinvestment rise to very high levels.

[5] Demand for Discretionary Goods and Services: Indirectly, demand for goods and services, especially in discretionary sectors of the economy, will also tend to get squeezed back by the rounds of inflation caused by spiking energy prices described in Item [4].

When customers are faced with higher prices because of spiking inflation rates, they will tend to reduce spending on discretionary items. For example, they will go out to eat less and spend less money at hair salons. They may travel less on vacation. Multiple generation families may move in together to save money. People will continue to buy food and beverages since these are essential.

Businesses in discretionary areas of the economy will be affected by this lower demand. They will buy fewer raw materials, including energy products, reducing the overall demand for energy products, and tending to pull energy prices down. These businesses may need to lay off workers and/or default on their debt. Laying off workers may further reduce demand for goods and services, pushing the economy toward recession, debt defaults, and thus lower energy prices.

We find that in some historical accounts of collapses, demand ultimately falls to close to zero. For example, see Revelation 18:11-13 regarding the fall of Babylon, and the lack of demand for goods, including the energy product of the day: slaves.

[6] Higher Interest Rates: Banks will respond to rounds of inflation described in Item [4] by demanding higher interest rates to offset the loss of buying power and the greater likelihood of default. These higher interest rates will have adverse impacts of their own on the economy.

If inflation becomes a problem, banks will want higher interest rates to try to offset the adverse impact of inflation on buying power. These higher interest rates will tend to reduce demand for goods that are often bought with debt, such as homes, cars, and new factories. As a result, the sale prices of these assets are likely to fall. Higher interest rates will tend to produce the same effect for many types of assets, including stocks and bonds. To make matters worse, defaults on loans may also rise, leading to write-offs for the organizations carrying these loans on their balance sheets. For example, the used car dealer Caravan is reported to be near bankruptcy because of issues related to falling used car prices, higher interest rates, and higher default rates on debt.

An even more serious problem with higher interest rates is the harm they do to the balance sheets of banks, insurance companies, and pension funds. If bonds were previously purchased at a lower interest rate, the value of the bonds is less at a higher interest rate. Accounting for these organizations can temporarily hide the problem if interest rates quickly revert to the lower level at which they were purchased. The real problem occurs if inflation is persistent, as it seems to be now, or if interest rates keep rising.

[7] A second major conflict (after the buyer/producer conflict in Item [4], [5], and [6]) is the conflict in how the output of goods and services should be split between returns to complexity and returns to basic production of necessary goods including food, water, and mineral resources such as fossil fuels, iron, nickel, copper, and lithium.

Growing complexity in many forms is something that we have come to value. For example, physicians now earn high wages in the US. People in top management positions in companies often earn very high wages. The top people in large companies that buy food from farmers earn high wages, but farmers producing cattle or growing crops don’t fare nearly as well.

As energy supply becomes more constrained, the huge chunks of output taken by those with advanced degrees and high positions within the large companies gets to be increasingly problematic. The high incomes of citizens in major cities contrasts with the low incomes in rural areas. Resentment among people living in rural areas grows when they compare themselves to how well people in urbanized areas are doing. People in rural areas talk about wanting to secede from the US and wanting to form their own country.

There are also differences among countries in how well their economies get rewarded for the goods and services they produce. The United States, the EU, and Japan have been able to get better rewards for the complex goods that they produce (such as banking services, high-tech medicine, and high-tech agricultural products) compared to Russia and the oil exporting countries of the Middle East. This is another source of conflict.

Comparing countries in terms of per capita GDP on a Purchasing Power Parity (PPP) basis, we find that the countries that focus on complexity have significantly higher PPP GDP per capita than the other areas listed. This creates resentment among countries with lower per-capita PPP GDP.

Figure 5. Average Purchasing Power Parity GDP Per Capita in 2021, in current US dollars, based on data from the World Bank.

Russia and the Arab World, with all their energy supplies, come out behind. Ukraine does particularly poorly.

The conflict between Russia and Ukraine is between two countries that are doing poorly on this metric. Ukraine is also much smaller than Russia. It appears that Russia is in a conflict with a competitor that it is likely to be able to defeat, unless NATO members, including the US, can give immense support to Ukraine. As I discuss in the next section, the industrial ability of the US and the EU is waning, making it difficult for such support to be available.

[8] As conflict becomes a major issue, which economy is largest and is best able to defend itself becomes more important.

Figure 6. Total (not per capita) PPP GDP for the US, EU, and China, based on data of the World Bank.

Back in 1990, the EU had a greater PPP GDP than did either the US or China. Now, the US is a little ahead of the EU. More importantly, China has come from way behind both the US and EU, and now is clearly ahead of both in PPP GDP.

We often hear that the US is the largest economy, but this is only true if GDP is measured in current US dollars. If differences in actual purchasing power are reflected, China is significantly ahead. China is also far ahead in total electricity production and in many types of industrial output, including cement, steel, and rare earth minerals.

The conflict in Ukraine is now leading countries to take sides, with Russia and China on the same side, and the United States together with the EU on Ukraine’s side. While the US has many military bases around the world, its military capabilities have increasingly been stretched thin. The US is a major oil producer, but the mix of oil it produces is of lower and lower average quality, especially if obtaining diesel and jet fuel from it are top priorities.

Figure 7. Chart by OPEC, showing the mix of liquids that now make up US production. Even the “Tight crude” tends to be quite “light,” making it less suitable for producing diesel and jet fuel than conventional crude oil. Chart from OPEC’s February 2023 Monthly Oil Market Report.

Huge pressure is building now for China and Russia to trade in their own currencies, rather than the US dollar, putting pressure on the US financial system and its status as the reserve currency. It is also not clear whether the US would be able to fight on more than one front in a conventional war. A conflict with Iran has been mentioned as a possibility, as has a conflict with China over Taiwan. It is not at all clear that a conflict between NATO and China-Russia is winnable by the NATO forces, including the US.

It appears to me that, to save fuel, more regionalization of trade is necessary with the Asian countries being primary trading partners of each other, rather than the rest of the world. If such a regionalization takes place, the US will be at a disadvantage. It currently depends on supply lines stretching around the world for computers, cell phones, and other high-tech devices. Without these supply lines, the standards of living in the US and the EU would likely decline quickly.

[9] Clearly, the narratives that politicians and the news media tell citizens are under pressure. Even if they understand the true situation, politicians need a different narrative to tell voters and young people wondering about what career to pursue.

Every politician would like a “happily ever after” story to tell citizens. Fortunately, from the point of view of politicians, there are lots of economists and scientists who put together what I call “overly simple” models of the economy. With these overly simple models of the economy, there is no problem ahead. They believe the standard narrative about oil and other energy prices rising indefinitely, so there is no energy problem. Instead, our only problem is climate change and the need to transition to green energy.

The catch is that our ability to scale up green energy is just an illusion, built on the belief that complexity can scale up indefinitely without the use of fossil fuels.

We are left with a major problem: Our current complex economy is in danger of degrading remarkably in the next few years, but we have no replacement available. Even before then, we may need to do battle, in new ways, with other countries for the limited resources that are available.

About Gail Tverberg

My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
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4,563 Responses to When the Economy Gets Squeezed by Too Little Energy

    • Figuring out the correct treatment is not very easy. Maybe prescribing aspirin at the time of 1918-1919 epidemic was part of the reason for the high mortality.

  1. Fast Eddy says:

    loosely put, iatrogenic death is when the doctor kills you. and there is a long and unpleasant history on that one from benjamin rush bleeding george washington to death to killing “witchy” cats to stop a plague carried by the fleas of the very rats they were eating to (and especially) new “wonder drugs” that are poorly understood but that rapidly go into widespread use.

    and one of those drugs was aspirin.

    aspirin had just come into widespread availability in 1918 (and bayer was rushing it to market for the pandemic). it was the new wowie-zowie drug and doctors (and especially militaries) all over the world fell in love with it. they prescribed it widely to those with spanish flu. in doses ranging from 8 to 31 grams per day. oopsie.

    a typical aspirin today is 325mg and max dosing per day is ~4 grams.

    a toxic dose is 200-300mg/kg of weight. that’s about 20g for a 180 pound person.

    31g is “you’re going to die really, really fast and there is not a damn thing anyone can do to stop it once you take that dose.”

    this is why incredible caution should be exercised around large departures from tested and true medical practice and new pharma modalities and products.

    stop me if any of this starts to sound familiar.

    https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/the-greatest-lie-told-during-covid

    • This is a very good article.

      “there have only been 2 really serious excursions in excess deaths in the US since 1900.

      and both look like they were mostly iatrogenic.”

      A disproportionate share of the deaths were caused by bad medical treatment, both with the 1918-1919 flu and Covid-19.

      The biggest lie we have been told:
      Pandemics are dangerous to modern societies.

      • Lastcall says:

        Alternative health, in my experience, works to strengthen the body and sees symptoms as a signal of the body at work against dis-ease.
        Modern pharma tends to attack the designated virus/bacteria/cancer etc and it can be no surprise often-times this causes worsening conditions.

        Very much along the lines of US spreading democracy by dropping bombs, colour evolutions, etc, instead of grass-roots aid to the actual people who are in a bad way.

        The 1918 spanish flu saw a much higher survival rate for homeopathic patients compared to pharma patients…unless of course this has been memory-holed now.

    • JMS says:

      The beauty of modern medicine is that it manufactures its own patients.
      First they poison the hoi polloi with drugs (aspirin, vaccines, AZT, Midazolam, etc…) and then call its effects a viral pandemic, which in turn will justify the sale of more drugs. A MO as simple as it is effective.

  2. CTG says:

    I have stated before and inkike to say it again that if/when financial crisis becomes too severe and global, it is likely to be an extinction event. We are too interconnected and reliant on trade and specialists in other fields (I.e. commercial farming, trucking, etc) that once money/credit trade is gone, everything goes. Only those who are truly truly truly unplugged from BAU will not realise that. Don’t believe me? Count for yourselves how many people that you know will NOT affected if they cannot access their money in the bank. All corporations/companies need banking to function. Banking insurance may not cover them but if you millions on the banks, what is the corp/company going to do? Withdraw them in cash?

    • watch at a till and see how few pay with money now

      i’m as guilty as anybody

      if you don’t have a reserve of food when the power goes down hardly any shop will be able to supply you–the means to get it from the shelves into you bag will not be there.—so the stores will close.

      if the stoppage is prolonged, the next stage will be looting–that will last about a day.

      another reason to have basics in reserve

    • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

      yes, total failure of the banking/financial system will lead to a 99% die-off within a few months.

      good thing it’s a weekend.

      the Banksters can work a couple of 20-hour days and try to patch themselves up.

      Monday should be quite “interesting”.

      in the worst-case scenario, it’s over sooner rather than later, and it’s been “nice knowing you” people online for these few short years.

      the Universe will carry on quite well with 7.9 billion less humans.

      que sera sera.

      • Retired Librarian says:

        “Good thing it’s a weekend.” Lol!

      • ivanislav says:

        Nothing a quick trillion or ten can’t fix. Warm up the printers.

        • Kowalainen says:

          For sure none of those trillions servicing debt will end up in the real economy causing inflation.

          Surely?

          Now that I think about it…

          Hypers gonna…
          (etc.)
          🤣👍👍

      • Ed says:

        I have full faith and confidence that the FED can type five trillion dollars into their computer. Monday BAU. Party on.

      • Withnail says:

        Nah. The government can just take over the banks. They aren’t going to risk total collapse just because of imaginary numbers on computers.

    • Perhaps, but humans and pre-humans made it through ice ages.

      We think of ourselves, with our computers, as the norm, but there are quite a few people around the world that live an existence that is not far from hunter-gathering. I know that even in India, there seems to be a bit of this.

      To be successful at restarting, there would need to be a fairly large group, including parents of small children. Perhaps a group of 100 could start over again, in what we think of as a remote area today.

      • Cromagnon says:

        The horse Amish are starting to try make a move into my area. I am going to try and recruit them into the tribe. The shock of the subarctic will hopefully make them malleable.

        Would Gnostic Christianity (simulacrum theory in disguise) be overly offensive to Anabaptists?

  3. Tim has denied the tale of Ubasute, abandoning the old when they stop being useful, even though he had said he heard a lot of horror stories in the rural Japanese town he lived at when things got tough.

    Fortunately such kind of custom existed in almost all societies, including Korea where it even got a name, “Koryeo-Jang” (Korean-style funeral). It was practiced time to time by the Koreans who were not that rich until 1980s.

    Today’s winners will do everything to survive. The Habsburgs married off one of their daughters to Napoleon, and ditched him when he got into trouble. The same thing was done by Otto Habsburg, who married his son to a very wealthy heiress, but the son ditched her when he got what he wanted.

    Such is the custom of the elites.

    There are some tales of Japanese elite girls who ended up in the countryside during the last days of World War 2, thinking Japan will be destroyed. They married richer peasants who never saw Tokyo , Osaka or Kyoto.

    After the war ended and things got back to normal, virtually all of them arranged to annul their marriages, and renounce any claims for any children from such unions (in Japan it was legally allowed for the parents to disown the children until 1990s) so such children would NEVER be allowed to claim any of the mother’s property, position or whatnot.

    Such stories were buried, the elite girls married men of their class as if nothing happened, and the men ditched often adopted such children away so they don’t have to see them and at least find some mates from their local society A few of them tried to reconnect to their mothers long after but few attempts went anywhere since the mothers invariably denied ever having such children and paternity tests in Japan are not cumpolsary , i.e. if the parent doesn’t want to be tested he/she doesn’t have to be tested.

    tl. dr. The elites will do whatever to survive, and the peasants who temporarily think they are equal to them will be shafted.

  4. Will the final solution for the world’s poor take place?

    My prediction is yes.

    There won’t be a giant death board deciding who will live and die.

    Instead the cost of living around the advanced world will rise so high that most people will simply be denied the right to live.

    Whenever the landowners return to power, a mass cleansing takes place. The landowners will simply kill every undesirable in their turf, and their underlings, knowing they will own the stuff the people they are killing currently possess, will do that and will occasionally spare some pretty girls out of them but won’t spare any men or women who are above, say, 25 yrs old.

    Expect no mercy and no quarters from today’s winners. Only fools will hide in the bunkers; the smarter ones already bought properties in the countryside, befriended the local elites (mayor, police chief, fire chief, pastor, etc) and are well established to hide out the crisis in a reduced style. Their leverage would be the chemicals, the drugs, the entertainment and some other luxury stuff which won’t be available within 100 miles and are to be destroyed if these locals ever try to lay hands on to them.

  5. Rodster says:

    “The Weakening Electric Grid: Less Reliable, More Fragile“

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/weakening-electric-grid-less-reliable-more-fragile

    • I agree, the electric grid and become less reliable and more fragile.

      I wrote an article back in 2008, when I only wrote at TheOilDrum.com, related to this issue. http://theoildrum.com/node/3934

      The U. S. Electric Grid: Will It Be Our Undoing?
      Posted by Gail the Actuary on May 11, 2008 – 12:00pm

      Quite a few people believe that if there is a decline in oil production, we can make up much of the difference by increasing our use of electricity–more nuclear, wind, solar voltaic, geothermal or even coal. The problem with this model is that it assumes that our electric grid will be working well enough for this to happen. It seems to me that there is substantial doubt that this will be the case.

      From what I have learned in researching this topic, I expect that in the years ahead, we in the United States will have more and more problems with our electric grid. This is likely to result in electrical outages of greater and greater durations.

      The primary reason for the likely problems is the fact that in the last few decades, the electric power industry has moved from being a regulated monopoly to an industry following more of a free market, competitive model. With this financing model, electricity is transported over long distances, as electricity is bought and sold by different providers. Furthermore, some of the electricity that is bought and sold is variable in supply, like wind and solar voltaic. A substantial upgrade to the electrical grid is needed to support all of these activities, but our existing financing models make it very difficult to fund such an upgrade.

      If frequent electrical outages become common, these problems are likely to spill over into the oil and natural gas sectors. One reason this may happen is because electricity is used to move oil and natural gas through the pipelines. In addition, gas stations use electricity when pumping gasoline, and homeowners often have natural gas water heaters and furnaces with electric ignition. These too are likely to be disrupted by electrical power outages.
      ——

      It is very clear to me why the grid can’t be expected to work well; every group today is interested in cost cutting.

  6. Virginio says:

    Silicon Valley Bank failure !
    It looks serious …

    https://twitter.com/gc22gc/status/1627810943135776769

    • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

      yes, Virginio, and there is no Santa Claus to help them.

      SVB has gone belly up!

      2nd largest bank failure in US history!

      will the worldwide banking system collapse on Monday?

      have a nice weekend, everybody!

    • houtskool says:

      There are no ‘banks’. Its called middle man. There’s only currency.

    • DOWD: The stock market is on razors edge right now. I don’t like to make predictions, but if I had to guess — the stock market is going to fall apart the next week or two.

      I am afraid Dowd could be correct.

      • Lastcall says:

        Another chance to introduce restrictions/permits/passes/rations or whatever.

        We (you) must save the climate
        We (you) must save the health system
        We (you) must save Ukraine
        We (you) must save the banking system
        We (you) must save democracy

        So we (you) must sacrifice the child, the car, the individual, the vote.

        After all, haven’t we been here before?
        ie; bombed a village to save it?

    • CTG says:

      Ides of March… Bear Sterns failed in March. It is and has always been a cycle of fragility at certain time or months of the year…

      • eKnock says:

        Spring ahead on Sunday!!
        Daylight Savings time could break the camel’s back.
        All those NYSE sales dudes will be grumpy from getting up an hour earlier. Could get ugly.

        And don’t you just love to see those kids out by the road, in the dark before sunup, waiting for the school bus.
        All those moms are so happy to drag those kids out of bed an hour earlier so they can get them dressed and fed and off to school in the dark. Go USA!!!!!

  7. @I AM THE MOB
    (large population not being creative but just developing predatory skills)
    That is the entire history of Asia until the Brits ended Chinese civilization on 1842 with their warships which made the Chinese wooden junks into matchsticks.

    Karl Wittfogel, who was an expert on Asian history, proposed the hydraulic civilization idea. He said history of Asia is cyclical because it is related to huge hydraulic projects which necessitates despotism.

    Asians were, are and will never be creative because their psyche is geared for getting ahead. They are smart, but not smart in a way conducive for advancing civilization.

    • The culture is different. I have read that in China, one model has been that the person with the most seniority gets promoted. The idea is that the whole group gets ahead, more than the expectation that any one individual will stand out for his achievements. Organization of the whole system receives high priority. There seems to be a belief that if everyone does things according to plan, or the custom, things will go better for the whole group.

      At the same time, I was surprised, in China, at the expectation of cheating. Proctors of an exam expected that students would cheat. I was told many times about the extent of bribery. I know that this is trying to be reduced, but it still seems to be the case. Adulterated food has been a problem. So are financial statements that would not pass standards that we would expect in the US.

  8. Fast Eddy says:

    Dr Malone.. is under siege hahaha
    https://palexander.substack.com/p/malone-attacks-physician-scientists

    He’s doing god’s work though

    • Is this another “not enough to go around” issue? Not enough fame? Not enough pay for people explaining what they see as the truth. I have noticed that more Substack articles are behind a pay wall now. Chris Martenson has even been putting more behind a paywall.

      • Cromagnon says:

        Get enough pay for telling the truth?

        I have found out that telling the truth gets you prison sentences and ostracized from western society. One gets labelled dangerous, asocial and misogynistic lol.

        The demiurge loves this part of the cosmic cycle.

        On the upside you get to self reflect a lot and learn how little a human really needs to stay alive.

        • Kowalainen says:

          A bit of adversity is good for you.

          Nobody claimed that life in Eden would be without trials and tribulations.

          That Demiurge is just your super-ego overriding the ego’s primate tendencies. You know, classical level headed thought without emotions.

          Some may call it meditation, I think of it as raw computation, just a bunch of ideas floating around without attachments.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        The final act of the ‘intelligent’ species:

        Monetizing their Extinction.

      • Tim Groves says:

        Dr. Malone is suing people supposedly on the same side for defamation, presumably because he doesn’t like what they’ve been saying about him. Legally he’s entitled to do it, but personally, I find this practice abhorrent. for me, it’s a major red flag.

        Dr. Alexander is now a major critic of Dr. Malone. I get both their substacks delivered by email. Malone presents himself as the consummate insider (based on his resume, patents, contacts, and security clearances) with a conscience who is trying to do the right thing. Alexander comes across as an outsider, physician, scientist, firebrand with multiple axes to grind, and courageous fighter who will happily fight bare-fisted.

        Alexander has a number of questions for Malone that Malone doesn’t seem interested in answering. The former seems to be attempting to provoke the latter into a rsponse, a debate or perhaps starting a feud, while the latter is currently ignoring the provocations, possibly because there are not enough hours in a day and he’s exhausted with all the trips, presentations, interviews and lawsuits he’s involved in, and what with the horses to feed and groom.

        Malone’s substacks sometimes feature life on the Malone farm with the horses they breed and keep there. Picking up on this, Alexander has taken to using a horse’s head icon to represent Malone in some of his own substack posts.

        I was much more ready to believe that Malone was a genuine independent fighter for freedom, justice and apple pie for all before he started suing other independent fighters for freedom, justice, etc. Now, despite an inclination to like the guy, I can’t shake off the suspicion that behind that beard, he may be controlled opposition. On the other hand, for all I know Alexander may be the controlled opposition, although he does a good job of apprearing to be totally out of control.

        It’s fair to say that the Covid Freedom movement is being and has been infiltrated just like the 9/11 Truth movement was, but working out who are the infiltrators is a bit harder. Still, I can’t think of a better way of breaking up the solidarity within the movement than having prominent members taking other prominent members to court and asking for tens of millions of dollars in damages.

        • DB says:

          Like you, I don’t know who might be controlled opposition or whether any of these figures are. In Malone’s case, though, Berenson and perhaps the Breggins made some crazy statements about Malone. I am also uncomfortable with his response, but he didn’t draw first blood. Perhaps they all are controlled opposition, acting out choreographed disputes to sow division.

          If I had to guess, based on my own past experience as a scientific dissident, is that none are controlled opposition. Ego and greed are probably enough to explain such behavior, which seems to exist in almost any group (and “market”) of sufficient size. Most of the supposed leading dissidents were quite conventional (that is, not dissidents) prior to Covid, so they bring with them the same traits (such egomania and greed) that led them to success in conventional society.

          Despite all the mudslinging, there is little substantively that separates the individuals in conflict. Many regard Malone as among the mildest/most moderate of the dissidents, yet I saw a video the other day in which he asserted there was a power above Biden and Schwab who has orchestrated and is orchestrating everything. That seems pretty radical (I happen to agree with it). So if these figures are controlled opposition, they don’t seem to be leading people away from controversial beliefs. And if that’s so, what’s the point of controlling figures who are doing essentially the same as those who don’t seem to be controlled? Furthermore, I think we dissidents think we are more important than we are. So what if a fringe thinks counter-narrative thoughts? We have had essentially NO impact, especially when it really counted. We are trivial and have been easily dismissed. Why would any controllers need to do micro-level sabotage on peripheral players? These players will sabotage themselves, and the powers that be can keep them peripheral through propaganda and control of the institutions. Mission accomplished.

          On further thought, maybe the only sabotage necessary is for someone to plant the idea that someone might be controlled opposition. That would be very high value and very low cost sabotage.

          • Tim Groves says:

            Egoism or self-interest or over-competitiveness or people just getting under other people’s skin might indeed be enough to explain everything. Throw some paranoia into the mix and we might expect a fair bit of name-calling and and back-biting in the best of crews.

            At the same time, controlled opposition sowing discord and mistrust explains it just as well.

            By the way, Paul Alexander has launched some more fireworks here, pointing out some of Robert Malone’s latest aggressions. I can’t keep up with this:

            Malone Attacks Physician Scientists Drs. Harvey Risch and Peter A McCullough; Dr. Malone angrily tried to discredit & ridicule Peter A. McCullough, MD, MPH, and Harvey Risch, MD, Ph.D. Why?

            https://palexander.substack.com/p/malone-attacks-physician-scientists?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=579356&post_id=107314379&isFreemail=true&utm_medium=email

            • Kowalainen says:

              Hardly a surprising reaction when having some Rapacious Primate stomping another Rapacious Primates statuses and prestiges.

              Tim, welcome to the Monkey Business.
              🤣👍👍

            • drb753 says:

              I concur with you and the person you answered to. But why waste time discussing the various personalities of this “movement”, which appears to be BLM with PhDs? I mean Fast Eddy is a prominent guy in there. What do you expect? They are limited hangout one trick ponies.

              When the crisis of 2008 hit, there were ready made controlled opposition outlets who developed narratives such as financial mismanagement, or we could do it better, smarter. Things like zerohedge, alt-market and naked capitalism. When covid was distributed, they worked with their betters and pushed the lockdown-vaccine narrative, while pursuing dead end threads, such as the idea that the virus was released, accidentally or not, by the Chinese.

              During the Obama lead years, other outlets captured hundreds of thousands naive souls down ideological and limited paths, censored any reality based comment that came through their blog (and censorship was and is a major method through which they kept control of the narrative), and most probably got paid, not necessarily or only by the elders. They too fell in line when covid hit. Sites like unz, thesaker, moonofalabama, smoothiex12, cluborlov. Like the prior generation, they love the pursuit of dead end, immaterial, past problems.

              And now we are supposed to believe that the substack generation is very different. why? the world is moving on to different ways to depopulate, and these idiots will be debating the original, failed attempt five years from now. Concentrate on the past at your peril.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              I remain banned for two days… but will drop this once lifted… I recommend watching the clips from Utopia

              https://www.eugyppius.com/p/why-we-must-mock-the-virus-pests

              I just watched the UK Utopia series for the 3rd time …. and I watched the US version (one season only) for the first time.

              Here is the UK version for those who have not seen it…

              https://duckduckgo.com/?q=watch+utopia+uk+series&iax=videos&ia=videos

              For those who have not seen this fascinating series that predicts much of what we have been experiencing for 3+ years :

              – creating a new virus and dumping it on the global population
              – blaming it on bats (yep bats)
              – using dodgy PCR tests to drive up numbers and inspire fear
              – claiming the virus was deadly when it was basically no more than a flu
              – rapidly developing and rolling out a vaccine
              – the mob demanding they ‘free the vaccine’ immediately – no need for long term testing

              What is the justification?

              Have a look at this clip from the UK version

              https://youtu.be/oK_fsI32In4

              As we know — the vaccinated are already experiencing issues with reproduction with miscarriages off the charts…. who knows if long term they will be sterile… excess deaths are clearly much higher as well.

              The premise of Utopia is to reduce the population to around 1B — but in a kind and gentle way — rather than kill off 7B … you sterilize most of them…

              Oddly the UK version although critically acclaimed and popular was cancelled after S2 — one might argue we are living S3 right now… the US series ran for only 1 season.

              Being a world class sceptic… I don’t think the PR Team was giving away the plot of their actual plan by airing this series… rather they were (as they often do)… using it as a mother bird would a feigned injury to lure a predator away from the chicks… telling the mob that what is to come is a plan to reduce population as opposed to extermination.

              Reducing population even by sterilization — does not play well with the mob — but it does not unhinge them and cause mass rebellion… they don’t like the medicine but they take it (as we are seeing – they primarily protest by typing away on Substacks)…

              If the mob got wind that this is extermination … that would be a different story… the anger would likely boil over… and that would get messy — the anti terrorist squads who stand ready (and your neighbours who would report you…) might not be able to handle mass uprising – and that could threaten to collapse civilization prematurely (before the extermination is completed)…. nobody wants that.

              The thing is … population reduction is not a workable plan. Even a small reduction would tip things over… (think labour shortages… think financial system collapse)… if we reduced by billions the system implodes

              For those wanting to explore what would happen I recommend https://mahb.stanford.edu/library-item/trade-off-financial-system-supply-chain-cross-contagion/attachment/trade_off_korowicz/

              This is not a depopulation agenda… In that clip there is a discussion of what will inevitably happen as the resources that feed 8 billion run short (or become too expensive to extract)… the female character discusses war – and ripping each other to pieces…

              Depopulation does not fix that… the Gates of Hell open one way or the other…

              Hence my theory is that this is extermination as outlined here https://www.headsupster.com/forumthread?shortId=220

              Let’s consider the Smoking Gun in all of this … we know for a fact that they prescribed epic doses of Midazolam for hospitalized covid sufferers (and flu — as they did not distinguish between the 2) …

              This is a crucial article as it demonstrates intent … intent of murder… mass murder…
              https://metatron.substack.com/p/midazolam-in-italy And this has happened in many countries…

              Does anyone think that the people calling for the use of Midazolam for people who are gasping for air were not aware of this:

              You should not use midazolam if you are allergic to it, or if you have:

              narrow-angle glaucoma;

              untreated or uncontrolled open-angle glaucoma; or

              an allergy to cherries.

              Tell your doctor if you have ever had:

              glaucoma;

              breathing problems

              https://www.drugs.com/mtm/midazolam.html

              All leaders were on board with this … even the snowflakes Trudeau and Ardern… did they all suddenly become ‘Dr Evils’ … there is virtually zero opposition to the injections … did everyone suddenly decide to commit mass murder — to kill babies even? Why would the DOD force the US military to take these shots?

              Why are they censoring .. why are they lying endlessly?

              How do you get everyone on board for what on the surface appears to be the most diabolical evil plan in the history of the world?

              Is there something they are aware of that they are not telling us? Is there something they fear?

              Do they believe what they are doing is necessary – to not act would lead to a far worse outcome?

              Do they understand that one way or the other we are going to be exterminated… and that their plan offers the least suffering… that the alternative will result in uncontrolled collapse… murder, rape, starvation, disease, cannibalism….

              In US version of Utopia the master mind is captured… and he insists what they are doing is actually good… necessary… he states how much evil do you have to do to do good….

              here’s the scene

              https://youtu.be/dBSU4cOUUYg

              Here’s Madeleine Albright admitting to murdering 500,000 children and stating it was worth is…

              https://youtu.be/nP_VnVlFhXU

              Assume her justification is that the global economy needs that oil on the market — otherwise oil prices blow through the roof — people cannot afford to eat … and way more people die

              This is how the people who run the world think… they are Spock on steroids…. of course they understand that they are committing ‘evil’… they know there is collateral damage with these vaccines (10 billion + doses and you have quality control issues)… they no doubt feel some empathy for those who are suffering…

              But they justify it. They know what happens if they fail to act — or if their plan fails.

              The Gates of Hell will open.

              So they carry on with their mission. Nothing will stop them. They believe they need to carry out evil to do good. If anyone decides to pick up arms and fight them … that is futile … they are ready for that.

              Whatever it takes… means whatever it takes. They are dead serious in their intent.

              Overturning their plan … would definitely open the Gates of Hell…

              So better to just remain on SS ranting and raving …

              I do not expect these truths will be well received by the anti vax community. I expect that.

              Nobody likes the truth. Nobody wants the truth.

              They generally get very angry when confronted with the truth.

            • reante says:

              BLM with PHDs.

              ROTFLMAO! 😀

            • DB says:

              Thank you, Tim, for the link.

              As far as I can tell, most of the accusations going around, regardless of direction, seem to have a kernel of merit (except possibly for Berenson’s dismissal of Malone’s role in developing the mRNA vaccine platform). That is, each of these characters could be described as having acted or current acting in less than honorable ways. Malone seems to have a shady deep state history. McCullough and Risch seem to be trying to cash in on overpriced vitamins and advice (maybe they’re too used to their former very fat salaries and other financial rewards?). In any event, I try to stay focused on an individual’s contributions to the matter at hand — in this case, understanding things related to Covid. And every one of these and other mudslinging combatants seems to have contributed to that in meaningful and important ways. I think Malone, Alexander, and others who busy themselves with tearing down others don’t really help anyone and only diminish themselves.

          • reante says:

            Thanks for the rundown guys. DB, Malone’s ‘radical’ views about people above Biden and Schwab orchestrating everything IS the controlled opposition narrative. Just because it’s the controlled opposition narrative doesn’t necessarily mean it isn’t true. The coming national socialisms are just controlled opposition color revolutions (come home to roost). Because they are more true that what they replaced, rather than the other way around with the imperial variety, we might call them inverted color revolutions.

            Non-public Degrowth is the great inversion.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Malone is on the side of Good. He is doing us a public service

              Same with Gates Fauci etc…

            • DB says:

              Does your own view differ from the controlled opposition narrative? If so, how? Even FE agrees there is a power above Biden and Schwab orchestrating everything.

            • and when has FE ever been wrong?

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Safe and Effective. right norm?

              Stay away from Midazolam …. specially if you have respiratory issues

              Of course Huff says it cures Covid though – that’s why they gave it to all those folks who died…

          • Adam says:

            I got to go back to my job because of dissidents.

            • reante says:

              Not because of dissidents. Because of The Feathering. The plandemic was a feathering. If that wasn’t the case then China would still be in lockdown as I’m sure you’ll agree China didn’t reopen due to dissident activity.

              The Great Reset is a misdirection play for the Degrowth Agenda. Keeping unvaxxxed out of the economy permanently would destroy the economy, for starters, wouldn’t it?

    • No doubt contributed to the high death rate “from” Covid.

    • Oddys says:

      It is the morphine that kill by supressing breathing. Midazolam just lessen the anxiety and agony of being suffocated.

      When my number comes up I want a supersize menu, and Alprazolam instead.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Warnings
        Midazolam can slow or stop your breathing

        https://www.drugs.com/mtm/midazolam.html

        There – I distilled it to the very essence for you

        • Rodster says:

          Funny how in the US, pharmaceuticals ads are a plenty. It usually starts out as several people laughing, smiling and enjoying life. Then the ad starts by saying take this drug to help with “xyz”. The rest of the commercial, usually 55% of it is listing most of the side effects. Heart failure seems to be a common theme with most of these drugs being sold to the average patient. What’s really comical is that by the end of the commercial, you begin to question whether you should bother thinking that sh*t in the first place. But it always ends just like it starts, with people laughing, smiling, dancing, eating and enjoying life.

  9. Fast Eddy says:

    Reading this https://www.audible.com/pd/Between-Two-Worlds-Audiobook/B09S185TX6

    Starvation in Germany post WW2 (and people wonder how it is Hitler came to power… duh)…

    Apparently once starvation weakened the Germans pneumonia and/or the flu was welcomed because it quickly put them out of their misery…

    • World War II was the time of peak hard coal in Germany. There was a real problem with too much population relative to resources. No wonder there was starvation.

  10. Retired Librarian says:

    On complexity. My internet service was down for seven days. It took many neighbors & lots of phone action to get repairs. It’s crummy to live without OFW. My eyeballs are falling out from catching up with you all! Thanks for another excellent post Gail.

    • You are welcome. Sorry about the internet service problems.

    • drb753 says:

      It’s none of my business, but if you have good phone reception, you can just tether your computer to the phone and get on the internet. I have even taught online classes through my phone.

      • Retired Librarian says:

        I was keeping my explanation short. There were issues with phones too. They replaced equipment inside of people’s homes before calling an outage. Then they replaced a cable & restored service. It involved multiple companies & effort. If reminded me of the things Gail says about complexity. In the city where I live it takes longer & longer to repair things. We have had weeks where the trash/etc are delayed pick up by days, a couple of times not at all. The decline is visible.
        Thank you for your suggestion.

        • drb753 says:

          The phone does not depend on things inside the house. If reception is iffy, the phone should be upstairs, no aluminum sidings, and no mosquito nettings. Here I get +20dBm just by going upstairs, which is useful because certain time sensitive texted codes do not travel timely through the internet. Then you set it to tether, then connect your computer to it (downstairs if you wish).

        • moss says:

          RLib, have you thought of a simcard router? I think with cellphones they’re generally hotspotting to WiFi (I’m known to have been wrong) but one may buy online a new/secondhand unlocked simcard router which can connect to computer with ethernet cable giving much faster speeds than hotspot. Using a separate simcard on a casual data plan might be a complete alternative to fixed connexion, and you may be pleasantly surprised at the pricing. Your situation may vary.

    • houtskool says:

      Oh my! They started burning books again!

  11. Herbie Ficklestein. says:

    Bussier called the B-21 the “future backbone of the bomber fleet,” adding that the military branch will have 100 of the Raiders, at a minimum.

    In the long-term plan, the Air Force plans to acquire 220 or more bombers.

    The B-21 is “on track to deliver operational aircraft to its first main operating base in the mid-2020s,” the general said.
    One of those aspects was a bomber fleet that includes the B-21 Raider, which is described as a bomber that is adaptable for future threats and has both nuclear and conventional capabilities.
    The nuclear triad includes silo-launched nuclear ballistic missiles and submarine-launched warheads.
    The cost of the bombers remains unknown — although it was projected to be approximately $550 million each in 2010 dollars, or about $750 million in today’s inflation-adjusted dollars — and the Raider will not make its first flight until next year.
    It was also designed for supportability, maintainability and sustainability.

    “The technologies that are integrated, and the open architecture system will provide any potential capabilities to advance, modernize and keep that weapon system on the leading edge of a threat in the future,” Bussier said.

    The B-21 Raider is the first new American bomber aircraft in more than three decades, and almost every aspect of the program has been classified.

    https://nypost.com/2023/03/10/us-air-force-unveils-new-photos-of-b-21-raider-during-colorado-symposium/amp/

    That’s one part of the economy which isn’t starving for lack of energy, resources or
    Attention…yes we act in strange ways…
    Like the message given…It was also designed for supportability, maintainability and sustainability….we know where this is leading to….

    • Withnail says:

      They won’t be able to build more than a handful of them, if any.

      • That is exactly what I would expect.

        • Herbie Ficklestein. says:

          Washington Post
          In race to arm Ukraine, U.S. faces cracks in its manufacturing might

          SCRANTON, Pa. – A sharp hissing sound fills the factory as red-hot artillery shells are plunged into scalding oil.

          Richard Hansen, a Navy veteran who oversees this government-owned munitions facility, explains how the 1,500-degree liquid locks in place chemical properties that ensure when the shells are fired – perhaps on a battlefield in Ukraine – they detonate in the deadly manner intended.

          “That’s what we do,” Hansen said. “We build things to kill people.”

          The Scranton Army Ammunition Plant, one of a network of facilities involved in producing the U.S. Army’s 155-mm artillery round, is ground zero for the Biden administration’s scramble to accelerate the supply of weapons that Ukraine needs if its military is to prevail in the war with Russia.

          The Pentagon’s plan for scaling up production of the shells over the next two years marks a breakthrough in the effort to quench Ukraine’s thirst for weapons. But the conflict has laid bare deep-seated problems that the United States must surmount to effectively manufacture the arms required not just to aid its allies but also for America’s self-defense should conflict erupt with Russia, China or another major power.

          Despite boasting the world’s largest military budget – more than $800 billion a year – and its most sophisticated defense industry, the United States has long struggled to efficiently develop and produce the weapons that have enabled U.S. forces to outpace their peers technologically. Those challenges take on new importance as conventional conflict returns to Europe and Washington contemplates the possibility of its own great-power fight.

          Even as public support for the vast sums of aid being given to Ukraine grows softer and more divisive, the conflict has sparked a broader conversation about the need to shatter what military leaders describe as the “brittleness” of the U.S. defense industry and devise new means to quickly scale up output of weapons at moments of crisis. Some observers are worried the Pentagon is not doing enough to replenish the billions of dollars in armaments that have left American stocks.

          Research conducted by the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) shows the current output of American factories may be insufficient to prevent the depletion of stockpiles of key items the United States is providing Ukraine. Even at accelerated production rates, it is likely to take at least five years to recover the inventory of Javelin antitank missiles, Stinger surface-to-air missiles and other in-demand items.

          Earlier research done by the Washington think tank illustrates a more pervasive problem: The slow pace of U.S. production means it would take as long as 15 years at peacetime production levels, and more than eight years at a wartime tempo, to replace the stocks of major weapons systems such as guided missiles, piloted aircraft and armed drones if they were destroyed in battle or donated to allies.

          “It is a wake-up call,” Sen. Jack Reed (D-R.I.), chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, said in an interview, referring to the production problems the war has exposed. “We have to have an industrial base that can respond very quickly.”
          A year into the Ukraine fight, American military aid has reached a staggering $30 billion, funding everything from night-vision goggles to Abrams tanks. Much of the weaponry was drawn from Pentagon stocks. Other systems must be produced in U.S. factories.
          U.S. and NATO officials have touted the powerful effect of foreign arms on the battlefield, where they have enabled Ukrainian troops to hold Kremlin forces at bay and, in places like the southern city of Kherson, reverse Russian gains. But the armament effort also has rattled officials in the United States and Europe, depleting the military stockpiles of donor nations and revealing the gaps in their productive power.

          As the front lines have hardened during the frigid winter months, the ground war has become a bloody, artillery-heavy fight, with Ukrainian forces firing an average of 7,700 artillery shells a day, according to the Ukrainian military, greatly outpacing the U.S. prewar production rate of 14,000 155-mm rounds a month. In the first eight months after Russian President Vladimir Putin’s invasion, Ukrainian forces burned through 13 years worth of Stinger antiaircraft missiles and five years of Javelin missiles, according to Raytheon, which produces both weapons.

          Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has predicted the munitions squeeze may require a further boost in Pentagon spending, potentially ending the era in which ammunition functioned as a military “bill payer,” a part of the defense budget from which officials can trim to fund more expensive items like tanks or planes.

          “What the Ukraine conflict showed is that, frankly, our defense industrial base was not at the level that we needed it to be to generate munitions,” Colin Kahl, undersecretary of defense for policy, told lawmakers last week, pointing to the effort to accelerate output of artillery shells, guided rockets and other items. “Those are going to matter a year from now, two years from now, three years from now, because even if the conflict in Ukraine dies down, and nobody can predict whether that will happen, Ukraine is going to need a military that can defend the territory it has clawed back,” he said.

          That’s what we do….being Stoopid and Selfish
          Throw this in the Dustbin and start over will you please

          • Of course, trying to fight China over Taiwan and ramp up hostilities against Iran in the midst of a situation with depleted munitions doesn’t sound possible. I read today that Biden’s proposed budget (which is high in many ways) is giving defense less than a 4% increase. This is less than inflation. This likely means that the situation with lack of munitions will get worse.

            We create complex items (munitions) with fossil fuels. We have a difficult time replacing them, as fossil fuels deplete.

            • eKnock says:

              We need more money for defense!
              Look what happened on Jan.6.
              Our $ 800,000,000,000 “Defense Team” couldn’t stop a few hundred highly trained shock troops from invading our Capitol Building. If that’s not proof of inadequate defense spending, I don’t know what is???

          • Withnail says:

            As I have been saying it’s new steel that you need to make weapons.

            A lot of the steel that America ‘makes’ at the moment isn’t new steel, it’s recycled. The amount of new steel that can be made is limited by the amount of coking coal you have.

            Of course America does still produce some new steel, but I am sure there are many non military important uses for it that are already consuming that steel.

            • gpdawson2016 says:

              This is an excellent comment by Withnail. Is that sarcasm in the last paragraph? I think so..! There are unintended consequences to everything and the shortage of Pigiron might be one of them. It was only a few days ago that I was reading on EnergySkeptic that you need pigiron(new iron) to make shiny steel.

          • Scranton is where Joseph Robinette Biden JR was born

            Just some pork for his hometown

  12. There is no revenge if everyone on the other side is eliminated.

    There would be no revenge against the upper class since they will outlive all the peasants.

    • Jef Jelten says:

      You always talk about the “upper class” the wealthy, the owners, as if they are inherently superior as if they earned their place there virtuously.

      The opposite is true. They have mostly lied, cheated, stole, and there is plenty of blood there too. Thats what it takes to get there and stay there. So those you worship are not worthy.

      By the way for all of you Elon groupies, he is nothing more than a very clever snake oil sales man selling a false product, false hope, and false dreams taking humanity for a ride down the wrong path and using up monstrous amounts of finite resources in the process. But he is rich so kiss the ring.

      • There is always “survival of the best adapted.”

        Are the wealthy the best adapted? Maybe in some circumstances. It is the children of the wealthy who have an above average chance of living long lives. Even recently, I have been astounded by the differences in life expectancy by educational attainment in the US. Of course, educational attainment, at least until recently, was highly correlated with whether the parents were wealthy.

        The system seems to be collapsing. Who is the best adapted may very well be changing. There is a need to go toward simplicity and doing more for ourselves with our physical labor. The wealthy likely will not be best adapted for that.

        • Jef Jelten says:

          “There is always “survival of the best adapted.”

          That may be true at a basic biological level but it is irrelevant in todays world. Survival of the most cunning, deceptive, sociopathic, greedy, violent….

          • It may be that selection is based on these awful characteristics.

            • Jef Jelten says:

              Gail, you never let me down.
              That comment is one of the doomest comments I have read and I read more than most.

              I crown thee Dame of Doom!

            • ivanislav says:

              Jef, she’s a bad mamma jamma, that’s for sure!

          • reante says:

            Jef I feel your pain but Gail was explicitly talking about adapting to collapse and not the current, unsightly (mal)adaptation.

          • Ed says:

            On both the negative and positive characteristics
            loyalty, honesty, friendship, generosity
            cunning, deception, sociopathic, greedy, violent

        • Lastcall says:

          Best adapted equals most DNA passed on.
          Genghis Khan was a super adapter.

          Third world is best adapted at moment as are religious groups with high reproductive rates.
          It used to be the Catholics, now probably the Sikhs or Muslims.

          The power of the womb beats any military force because the hand that rocks the cradle rules the world.

          • Little known fact –

            Most of the so-called Khan’s descendants are actually from his stepson Jochi.

            Long story short , the Khan’s wife had been kidnapped by a rival tribe and returned pregnant. The Khan forgave her and took the son as his own, something his real children didn’t like and they kicked Jochi and his son Batu to Sarai, near what we now call Volgograd.

            The Khan’s real descendants killed off each other until the empire collapsed, and the Manchus , about 300 years later, killed off every single remaining descendants of the Khan in Asia.

            But Jochi’s descendants remained in Europe where they became ancestors to a bunch of people like Queen Victoria and every monarch descended from her.

            The unknown warrior who impregnated Jochi is the biggest winner of all.

            Moral: It is not good to spare someone whose paternity is disputed

          • Ed says:

            add in Mormons, orthodox Jews, Bruderhoff Christians, evangelical Christians, Amish, Mennonites

      • Sam says:

        Klum is like the Howells on Gilligans island! 🤪 … he thinks he will be able to buy people with his worthless paper money

        • Cromagnon says:

          Perfect analogy….. just perfect.

          A good mindset to adopt is that of “ the hound” in the Game of Throne series.
          He lived amongst the elite because he was useful to them, but his contempt was plain and obvious and when they asked to much of him,… he told them to fuck off…….
          Wealth is useful until it is not.

          He outlived them all and died on his own terms.

          Even in late stage terminally I’ll modern culture, there are still gems of wisdom to be found.

      • Tim Groves says:

        The “survival of the best adapted,” like the “survival of the fittest”—let’s take those two horses as coming from the same stable—is considered by a number of smart people to be a tautology, or in other words a statement that is true by necessity or by virtue of its logical form. Carl Popper was a leading exponent of this view.

        Others, such as John Wilkins, have argued the opposite, by explaining that “adaptation” or “fitness” are not just defined in terms of what survives.” There needs to be a causal story available to make sense of adaptation,” insists Wilkins.

        But, I ask, in my untutored ignorance. How is fitness or adaptation to be judged, if not in terms of survival? If there is some other criteria that measures these attributes, we must also explain logically how many of the fittest, most well adapted species in natural history have not survived and are now, to channel John Cleese, “ex species.”

        Furthermore, while such other criteria may be trotted out by the smartest (the experts), it remains true that the common sensical generally accepted scientific explanation for why existing species exist is that they represent the fittest and have therefore survived, which takes us back into tautology-land.

        Human beings are obviously an outlier here. They are not among the fittest or best adapted species in the current biosphere. Somebody should tell the neo-Darwinians the news. It should be obvious by now that they simply don’t fit in with the rest of nature and that rather than adapting to their environment, they are obsessed with adapting their environment to their own needs.

        This is bound to lead to their own extinction in relatively short —any day now in geological terms!—thereby confirming that they were not nearly as well adapted as they thought they were.

        • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

          it is co-evolution.

          species evolve as their environment is ever changing, as all species which encounter each other are evolving in the biological “world”, and as the physical/chemical “world” is ever changing.

          99+% of all species are extinct, so at some point in time they became “unfit” for future survival in the ever changing “world”.

          before becoming extinct, each species was “fit enough” to survive.

          it is “survival of the fit enough” until it isn’t.

        • Isn’t it pretty clear that any species that uses as much supplemental energy as humans do, on any planet, anywhere, will have a fairly short span of existence. They will hit overshoot and collapse quickly.

          • Kowalainen says:

            Attempting homeostasis on an individual basis is abhorrent, cuz envy and jealousy. Follow the herd, be a good little tryhard attaboy Hyper. Quench those sufferings with escapism and cope. Yes, do it!

            Cuz the species sexual dimorphism demands a perpetual cycle of booms and busts. I.e. the eternal recurrence of the Hyper.

            Just about anything that would be easily exploitable as energy and raw material source would suffice.

            Until the following scenarios come true:

            1. Resource depletion into dystopia (no more grapes or cucumbers)
            https://youtu.be/meiU6TxysCg

            2. Overpopulation until dystopia
            (Calhouns rat utopia)
            https://youtu.be/NgGLFozNM2o

            3. A little bit of both, just as now.
            (Composite behavioral sinks)

            Why? Cuz it sucks to be them.
            Just because you can spend time with yourself in reasonable contentment is indicative of what most Rapacious Primates “feel”. And touchy feels is all that matters for the traumatized Monkey ego.

            Repeat after me:
            SUCKS TO BE THEM!

            Imagine that. The dread. Insanity.
            Have compassion for them and their suck.

            That is the message from good ole Gautama.
            ☯️

          • Foolish Fitz says:

            Our existence relative to geologic time is stupendously short.

            Here’s a nice picture of the timescale.

            http://regmorrison.edublogs.org/files/2013/05/Evolution-timescale-1w2ws0w.pdf

            An write up.

            “Unfortunately, our perspective of the road that that led us to this population precipice is hopelessly distorted by our narrow perception of time. Limited as we are by our own birth and death and the narrow span of existence that lies between, it is hard enough to imagine the passage of a thousand years, let alone a million. A billion is out of the question. It is therefore worth taking a moment or two to look at evolution and the emergence of our species against the larger perspective of geologic time, but in terms that we can more readily comprehend. The unit of time that most intimately governs our lives is the time the planet takes to complete one revolution about its polar axis—the 24-hour day. If we overlay Earth’s existence on this scale and plot the milestones of its evolution against these 24 hours, we’ll have a much better idea of the proportional time involved. For example, if we accept that Earth coalesces in the first few minutes of this day, then life’s earliest trace fossils (the North Pole stromatolites), appearing with what has been described as indecent haste, show up just before 6 a.m.. By contrast, the first multicelled organisms do not appear in the fossil record until about 9 p.m. on the scale, making it immediately obvious that the real miracle of life lies not in creation but in cooperation.

            According to this 24-hour chronology, the first habitually upright apes did not begin to leave their footprints on East Africa’s dusty plains until the last minute before midnight, true humans emerged some twenty seconds later, and fully modern humans only made their appearance during the last four seconds of that final minute. It is an astonishingly brief existence for a species that, in full plague mode, now dominates the planet so completely that it has savagely eroded the environmental conditions that underpin its own survival.”

            https://regmorrison.edublogs.org/1999/07/19/the-case-against-us/

            Maybe a millisecond or two, in geologic time, left for us?

            • brilliant link fitz

              thanks

            • Foolish Fitz says:

              The book that’s taken from(The Spirit In The Gene) is an interesting read, with a conclusion that’s hard to resist. Our unique advantage would always be our destruction. Well worth a read.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              We’ve been in our present state for say 200k years?

              And we are about to go extinct.

              We need to redefine the word intelligent.

            • postkey says:

              “The earliest known life forms on Earth are believed to be fossilized microorganisms found in hydrothermal vent precipitates, considered to be about 3.42 billion years old.[1][2] The earliest time for the origin of life on Earth is at least 3.77 billion years ago, possibly as early as 4.28 billion years ago[2][4][5]—not long after the oceans formed 4.5 billion years ago, and after the formation of the Earth 4.54 billion years ago.[2][3][6][7] The earliest direct evidence of life on Earth is
              from microfossils of microorganisms 
              permineralized in 3.465-billion-year-old Australian Apex chert rocks.[8][9] “
              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earliest_known_life_forms

    • I AM THE MOB says:

      Kum,

      People who grow up in the suburbs or wealthy environments. Don’t do well in survival situations. The reason is they grow up with no real predators.”

  13. Whether you like or not, all these advanced civilization and other benefits were NEVER intended to be enjoyed by the peasants.

    It was only intended for the top 5% of the Western world (and a smattering of elites in Japan, South America and some other places), the lower class assigned to a life of toil without compensation, a relatively shorter life with no pot to piss on, and dropping dead to be buried in potter’s graves when they get sick.

    Instead of wasting resources to raise the standards of living of those who did not contribute anything to civilization, everything should have been used to develop civilization, and all the gains monopolized by the top so the advance would have been more rapid.

    After the industrial revolution, the standard of living in UK did not really rise. People lived relatively in the same way in 1865 like 1765.

    All the advances should have stayed that way. Only the chic should have enjoyed life and civilization and we would be orbiting space and getting resources from there by now.

  14. I AM THE MOB says:

    It’s hard to maximize everyone’s potential when there are billions of people fighting over limited amount of opportunities.

    There is a limit to how much competition contributes to progress. With billions of people, most competition has to be standardized in order to appear as “merit-based” as possible. At some point, innovation, creativity, and learning for the sake of knowledge will all be replaced in favor of how to cheat and play the system in order to get ahead. Furthermore, with more and more people fighting over limited resource and habitable land, people rather devote their energy into making deadlier weapons or coming up with better ways to exploit the masses. We’ve achieved a lot of things when the global population is below 8 billion. There is no reason to go beyond 8 billion. Keep this in mind, the mainstream media is funded by big corporations and billionaires who need consumers to make them more powerful.”

    -anon

    • Good point. I have raised the question with respect to insurance companies trying to maximize revenue, by finding the right rating variables on policies.

      All that is needed on a policy is a way of sharing risk. Infinite refinement of this process adds practically nothing.

    • Dennis L. says:

      Thank you.

      Dennis L.

    • Jef Jelten says:

      “With billions of people, most competition has to be…” destroyed through all means possible including economic suppression, bombs and killing.

      This is the story of modernity which most ignore even though it is done in the open.

    • Unfortunately, this is a good point:

      ” At some point, innovation, creativity, and learning for the sake of knowledge will all be replaced in favor of how to cheat and play the system in order to get ahead.”

      • Withnail says:

        When the system starts to break down, cheating and theft greatly accelerate the process.

        For example theft of electricity and theft of public infrastructure will become major problems as poverty and energy prices increase. Just like in South Africa.

        There won’t be much left of the grid once power prices go beyond what the average person can afford.

  15. Hubbs is talking about what will happen after the Trump threat passes in 2024.

    I think such prediction might be as superfluous like the concern which the central character of Robert Musil’s Man without a Quality had.

    In 1913, an unemployed intellectual named Ulrich, who wanders around Vienna without really doing anything, gets concerned about what will happen in 1918 , which would be the 70th anniversary of the coronation of Emperor Franz Josef, and joins a group which would organize the anniversary celebration and also the future of the Habsburg Empire.

    Of course everyone reading that book would have known what happened in 1918. Hardly anyone, other than Hungary, knows that the last emperor of the Habsburgs was a Karl I, thought he was probably the most able Habsburg ruler since Maria Theresia.

    By 2025 what we know as USA would be unrecognizable. Who becomes the US President will probably be irrelevant. Standards of living will plummet.

    We will see the equivalent of Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Libnecht , probably in a right wing cloth, within 10 years in USA.

    • Dennis L. says:

      Had to Google the last two names, interesting.

      Dennis L.

    • I agree that we don’t know what is ahead. A financial crash and a shift to other countries trading in currencies other than the US dollar could have a big impact.

      I get the impression that I am not the only one with concerns about the US economy. The WSJ has a story on the front page of the online version called Fear Over Social Security’s Future Leads Some to Claim Retirement Benefits Early

      Some Americans are claiming Social Security years before full retirement age out of fear their benefits will be cut once the program runs short on cash.

      They say they want to get as much in benefits as they can before 2034. That is when the retirement program is projected to deplete its reserves, triggering a 23% reduction in benefits, unless Congress acts. Economists and financial advisers generally discourage claiming early. Most expect Congress will prevent a precipitous drop in benefits.

      If there are not enough goods and services to go around, the retirees are very vulnerable. The year 2034 looks terribly optimistic, when a person realizes that we seem to be hitting fossil fuel limits now.

      None of us knows for certain how things will work out. If the financial system holds together, the downslope might be reasonable. But you are right, there is at least some chance that the US, in the way we know it, could disappear by 2025.

      • in uk, when pensions were first introduced, in 1908 there were 28 workers for every pension

        now, there’s maybe 4 or 6, depending how you look at it.

        the endgame is obvious.

      • David says:

        The US system may be a bit more generous than the UK state pension. Ours looks sustainable indefinitely to me. It’s pay as you go so no investment return is assumed. Money is taken in from those of working age. It goes straight back out again to ‘oldies’ like me.

  16. MG says:

    During the covid pandemic, the Minister of Healthcare in Slovakia was Vladimir Lengvarsky, a medical officer from the Armed Forces of the Slovak Republic. Now he resigned and the new the Minister of Healthcare is going to be Michal Palkovič, a pathologist.

    In the end, every patient dies…

    https://domov.sme.sk/c/23144662/hegerovi-ludia-vyhrali-nad-lengvarskeho.html

    • From what I translated of the article, the approach of the man from the military seems not to have worked well in solving the problem. This caused tensions. Now, someone from outside the military has been appointed.

  17. Withnail says:

    The EIA, the analytics arm of the US Department of Energy, published the February oil markets data in its latest STEO (Short-term Energy Outlook) yesterday. The EIA reports that Russian oil production rose to 11.13 mbpd in February, the highest since April 2022 and a whopping 1.1 mbpd higher than the EIA’s forecast from two months ago.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/russian-oil-production-returns-near-pre-war-levels

    • This article, which was reprinted on Zerohedge, is by Steve Kopits. Some of my long-time readers may remember that in February 2014, I published a post which I called Beginning of the End? Oil Companies Cut Back on Spending. That post was a write up of an hour-long talk that Kopits had given. (I had asked his permission to the write-up.) So I have a lot of confidence in Steve Kopits’ technical ability.

      This is the chart Kopits shows:

      https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5a81dd4eb07869101a54cbfe/9e31ba67-4388-456b-9b7d-bf008cfd9e15/russia+oil.png
      https://www.princetonpolicy.com/ppa-blog/2023/3/8/russia-oil-production-grows-returns-to-near-pre-war-levels

      I agree that the black market forecast is a better forecast than the “Short Term Energy Outlook” forecasts put together by the EIA. They are all based on the assumption that the sanctions put in place will work, but as Steve points out, this isn’t the case.

      What happens to Russia’s longer term oil production is, of course, up in the air. Russia needs to have a stable relationship with buyers. Also, Russia has already developed its most promising fields. Increasing complexity is required to add more and even to maintain current supply levels.

      • reante says:

        Thanks Gail.

        This is where I learned about Soviet peak oil. Perhaps you know it. Very interesting essay, especially when comparing it to how things are playing out now. Excerpt:

        “The most startling aspect of the oil crisis in the Soviet Union after 1988 is that it is oil production that declines first and then oil consumption. If one were to have expected oil production to decline due to an economic crisis, then the economic crisis would first cut consumption significantly long before it would have affected production. This did not happen. First Soviet production began declining then oil shortages appeared and then came an economic crisis finally followed by huge consumption declines. If the Soviet Union had transformed itself in 1980 or 1975, then there would have been consumption declines but no production declines. It was opposite of this in the transition of the early 1990’s.

        We believe the cause and effect of the Soviet transition is politics reacting to oil production, not oil production reacting to politics. In the west, all the evidence suggests that politics reacted to oil prices. It had to be the same in the East. The Soviet economy was not flexible enough to cope with diminishing oil supply and higher oil prices. In the closed Soviet system, the price of oil was set artificially low relative to the outside world and to the true value of oil. When the supply production declined, oil prices had to go up inside the closed system. It was, however, hopeless to try to save a planned economy since it could never adjust to the strain. The economic problems of reducing the use of so much oil were enormous. If we acknowledge that there was indeed an oil crisis in the Soviet Empire at the time of its break up, then we must reexamine the sequence of events as outlined in the competing theories section above. We believe that point 3 of the classical model of the Soviet decline should be changed, or at least a new point should be added between points 3 and 4. The new point would explain how the economy had to adjust to an oil crisis brought on by the decline in Soviet oil production. This decline was the final and decisive push that broke up the Soviet Union and dismantled the Soviet Communist party.

        THE CAUSE OF THE SOVIET DECLINE IN OIL PRODUCTION

        Most analysts claim that the cause of the Soviet oil production decline was a combination of old technology, a lack of investment into the oil industry, and poor management. In addition, the break up of the Soviet Union itself and the problems of the economic transformation are also considered important factors. See Reinsch et. al. (1992). However, there is evidence to suggest that the Soviet oil production decline was natural and would have happened no matter what the Soviet Union did.”

        • The big issue causing the decline in Soviet Oil production was low prices, as I see the situation. There was low investment, because there was little to no cash flow to reinvest.

          The Soviet Union situation was basically a collapse situation. The country was less efficient than other parts of the world. Ukraine in particular was inefficient. The bad outcome was expected. This is an article I wrote back in 2011:

          https://ourfiniteworld.com/2011/08/08/fall-of-the-soviet-union-implications-for-today/

          This is an article I wrote in 2014.

          https://ourfiniteworld.com/2014/05/07/russia-and-the-ukraine-the-worrisome-connection-to-world-oil-and-gas-problems/

          • reante says:

            Thanks Gail.

            Are you suggesting that the USSR didn’t ultimately collapse for the same geological reason that the world is now about to collapse?

            It seems to me that the (low) pricing argument for USSR collapse is an apples to oranges comparison that grafts capitalist conceptions of pricing onto communist non-market-based ‘pricing.’ Money under communism is not money according to market capitalism. it’s more like a scrip allocation which serves the function of rationing.

            The US would have collapsed long before the USSR (consumer capitalism is much more powerful and therefore wasteful, and burns it’s candle at both ends) if it hadn’t monopolized the ME spoils of WW2.

            • You are right. The collapse of the USSR occurred for a somewhat different reason than the world economic collapse we are headed for.

              The world price of oil fell very low for all producers, but USSR’s system was more extensively harmed by this than other countries. The inefficiency of the USSR’s systems no doubt had a significant impact on what happened. Collective farms weren’t working well. Central planning wasn’t working well. Ukraine manufacturing wasn’t very efficient. The financial system wasn’t as advanced as in the West. I don’t understand the connections and payment plans that were in existence with its affiliates either. The long cold winters could not help efficiency, either.

            • The net return on human labor was too low.

            • reante says:

              Thanks I agree with all those points. Your point about the net return on Soviet human labor being low is a great one. Capitalism monopolizes peoples’economic lives much more than communism, and is therefore much better at maximizing returns on human labor. As Marx rightly said, capitalism is the financial exploitation of labor, and by leveraging fractional reserve and beyond fractional reserve lending, with fossil fuels, the debt structures acted like huge carrots . Huge dangling carrots. Communism doesn’t do carrots so well, and when the Russian people themselves were doing things like apparently growing up to 50pc of their own produce, that doesn’t exactly engender a consumer culture that maximizes net returns on labor. Capitalist consumption by its very nature forces net returns on labor because consumption requires the labor that is worker exploitation.

              Then there’s the capitalist stick. Homelessness. Communism doesn’t do that one so well either. Though I don’t know what the consequences were in the USSR for the refusal to both not work for the Machine and not do illegal work instead.

  18. Student says:

    (Times of Israel)

    as you can see below the opinions in Israel and of Jews in general can be very different.
    If main stream media in western Countries generally don’t report them it mainly hurts Jews, in my view.
    This woman has been brave and has expressed very good points, she has spoken not only for herself.

    ”Italian Jewish leader assails Israeli policies in speech attended by Netanyahu
    Noemi di Segni says alleged ministerial support for attacks on Arabs has made it ‘impossible’ to be a proud Jew; urges changes to judicial overhaul and death penalty bills.
    The head of an umbrella group for Italian Jews spoke out sharply Thursday against the Israeli government’s planned judicial overhaul, settler violence and societal disunity during a speech attended by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in Rome.”

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/italian-jewish-leader-assails-israeli-policies-in-speech-attended-by-netanyahu/

    • There is basically too much population in Israel. Jewish people were added, but non-Jews were already there. Both the Jews and the Palestinians have high birth rates, making the situation progressively worse. There is also not enough water to go around. From what I could see when I visited Israel in 2019, the Jews treat the Palestinians very badly. I am sure the situation is worse now.

      The situation is basically an example of “not enough to go around.” The stronger group (Jews) treats the weaker group very badly.

      • drb753 says:

        Not only that, but Israel needs a lot of energy to maintain supremacy. Its Army is made of cowards who would be wiped out in hand to hand combat. This is why the Ukrainian government is 93% Jew. They will need the Ukraine a few years down the road. It is being depopulated for that and other reasons.

  19. Harry says:

    About the “new” Nordstream Story…and above, these guys from THE DURAN got it completely right with their analysis:

    • Alexander explains how absurd the New York Times story about the blown up pipelines is. Seymour Hersh gave a detailed account that made sense. The NYT article indicating that a group of Ukrainian oligarchs funded an operation using a yacht is patently ridiculous. The boat couldn’t have carried the necessary explosives. The divers would have needed special equipment and training to deal with the depths involved. They would have needed to know precisely where pipelines were located.

  20. Fast Eddy says:

    Bank Stocks Got Wacked: Between a Rock and a Hard Place as Banks Run Out Free Money https://wolfstreet.com/2023/03/09/bank-stocks-got-wacked-between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place-as-banks-run-out-the-free-money/

    SVB Financial/Silicon Valley Bank Shares Collapse 55% Today, 84% from Consensual Hallucination Peak, as it Shores Up Balance Sheet & Liquidity to Face the Future https://wolfstreet.com/2023/03/09/svb-financial-silicon-valley-bank-shores-up-balance-sheet-liquidity-to-face-the-future-shares-collapse-55-today-84-from-consensual-hallucination-peak/

    Please blow the f789 up

    • Withnail says:

      Please blow the f789 up

      Silicon Valley Bank has failed to raise funds and is looking for an emergency buyer. There is a run on the bank currently.

      • The WSJ has an article
        Silicon Valley Bank Closed by Regulators, FDIC Takes Control
        Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. takes control of tech-focused lender following run on deposits

        Silicon Valley Bank collapsed Friday in the second-biggest bank failure in U.S. history after a run on deposits doomed the tech-focused lender’s plans to raise fresh capital.

        The bank is the 16th largest in the U.S., with some $209 billion in assets as of Dec. 31, according to the Federal Reserve. It is by far the biggest bank to fail since the near collapse of the financial system in 2008, second only to the crisis-era shutdown of Washington Mutual Inc.

        My son has been doing software development work for a software development contractor to SVB. There have been contract issues recently. I told my son that he should go work on his resume.

    • I am afraid that the financial situation is about to get much worse. This represents only the tip of the iceberg.

      The Wolfstreet article summarizes the problem as follows:

      The issue is simple: the only free money left for banks is from depositors, and depositors have figured out that they’re getting screwed, and they’re fleeing. So Banks are facing higher funding costs – or they face big one-time losses if they raise cash by selling securities to reduce or avoid those higher funding costs. They’re between a rock and a hard place, and SVB explained this to investors today.

      Silicon Valley Bank is just the tip of the iceberg.

  21. Lastcall says:

    Coming to the Climate Change debate …..Lamestream media is so bought and sold the more-ons will never wake up.

    ‘When it came to vaccine hesitant Canadians and the trucker freedom convoy, the Trudeau Liberals already had a cozy relationship with the media. In 2018, the Trudeau Liberals gave $595 million in a “bailout” to over 1,500 Canadian media outlets. [29] Next, they paid the legacy media over $61 million before the September 2021 election to keep them in their corner with coverage friendly to the government. Reporting in the Lake Superior News, Spencer Fernando warned that these payments to the media had potential to subvert democracy. A media happy to receive these hundreds of millions of dollars could be disinclined to report stories troubling to the Liberals. [30]

    Media coverage of the freedom convoy framed Trudeau as a noble leader beset by a throng of hoodlums, criminals, “terrorists, mercenaries…” In an effort to variously demean, defame and demonize the truckers, Canadian legacy media employed an everything-but-the-kitchen-sink strategy to agitate their audiences to feel repugnance toward convoy protesters.’

    I hope the ‘Fourth Estate’ are all well paid, well jabbed and well f@<ked.
    Jabcinda gave our legacy media a $65m bailout early in the lockdown drama.

    This includes the bad joke 'comedians' of the country; they are the punch line this time.
    A few of them are tipping over because of the dogsh#t so karma kometh.

  22. Mirror on the wall says:

    Another new paper. Yamnaya herders themselves (not a related group!) mixed with the farmers of the Globular Amphora culture to form the Corded Ware culture, and CWC expansions brought GAC ancestry as well as Yamnaya through Europe. CWC extended all the way from Germany and southern Scandinavia into parts of Russia. The Bell Beaker culture in Britain was an extension of CWC migration.

    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2023.03.08.531671v1

    > Screening for identity by descent segments in human ancient DNA

    …. We present ancIBD, a method to identify IBD segments for human aDNA data implemented as a Python package…. Second, by applying \ancIBD, we reveal new details regarding the spread of ancestry related to Steppe pastoralists into Europe starting 5000 years ago. We find that the first individuals in Central and Northern Europe carrying high amounts of Steppe-ancestry, associated with the Corded Ware culture, share high rates of long IBD (12-25~cM) with Yamnaya herders of the Pontic-Caspian steppe, signaling a strong bottleneck and a recent biological connection on the order of only few hundred years, providing evidence that the Yamnaya themselves are a main source of Steppe ancestry in Corded Ware people. We also detect elevated sharing of long IBD segments between Corded Ware individuals and people associated with the Globular Amphora culture (GAC) from Poland and Ukraine, who were Copper Age farmers not yet carrying Steppe-like ancestry. These IBD links appear for all Corded Ware groups in our analysis, indicating that individuals related to GAC contexts must have had a major demographic impact early on in the genetic admixtures giving rise to various Corded Ware groups across Europe. These results show that detecting IBD segments in aDNA can generate new insights both on a small scale, relevant to understanding the life stories of people, and on the macroscale, relevant to large-scale cultural-historical events.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globular_Amphora_culture

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corded_Ware_culture

      • Cheese can cause nightmares says:

        Tell me, Kowalainen, when you were a young Lapp, did you ever castrate a reindeer by biting through its testicles? I’ve heard that this is a traditional practice.

        • Kowalainen says:

          The Sami you say? Nah, not related. They just hung around the cool kids riding their steeds. I guess you’re barking up the wrong tree.

          But times change. Now they’re made of carbon fiber with rubber shod wheels instead of hooves, the steeds that is.

          Still cool though.
          https://youtu.be/iw3hfAcSJLY

          The Saami mostly play with their snowmobiles and helicopters chasing livestock.

          Ask Gordon.
          https://youtu.be/UnwkgbBjc4Y

          🤣👍👍

      • Way up north, where some of Kowalainen’s relatives come from.

        • Mirror on the wall says:

          Obviously present day distributions are not indicative of the original source locality of migrations, which is a very elementary mistake. The whole point of migrations is that the distributions change. That is where ancient genomes come in handy. Everyone who is serious agrees that the Yamnaya component originated in the Steppe (hence the name), and absolutely no one serious proposes a Fenno source. The map linked above seems to have originated as a joke, and I imagine that it gave us all a laugh.

          • Kowalainen says:

            Everybody knows that Yahweh (or was it Shiva perhaps? Never mind) got tired of the dullard farmers and spawned Yamnaya out of thin air up in “Lapphelvetet” (google that), and their steeds.

            Lactose (in)tolerance anybody?

            https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/27/Worldwide_prevalence_of_lactose_intolerance_in_recent_populations.jpg

            I guess genetics don’t lie.
            🧬

            Obnoxious savages through and through.
            The farmers that is.

            Obviously steeds are for riding, not ploughing. That’s just plain old animal cruelty.
            🤣👍👍

            Questions on that?
            In the mean time:
            (etc.)

          • I guess the question is whether the linked map is right. Perhaps it is a joke, as you say.

            I think it would be hard to come up with a situation where the heaviest distribution now was greatly different from the original source.

            • Mirror on the wall says:

              The Yamnaya component was dominant on the Eneolithic wooded Steppe and entirely absent in Scandinavia before the archaeologically attested Steppe migrations. We have the genomes from the skeletons. Steppe ancestry arrived in Scandinavia with the Corded Ware and Battle Axe cultures as the genomes indicate.

            • Kowalainen says:

              Ah, the ever prevailing and obstinate dogma of migrations into Scandinavia.

              Funny how lactose tolerance and persistence of Yamnaya ancestry seem more prevalent the further up north one ventures.

              If the pastoralist “traits” migrated north, wouldn’t it be otherwise. At least reason dictates that.

              Archeology is a joke.

            • Mirror on the wall says:

              Who said that lactose persistence was an Eneolithic pastoralist trait or that it is linked to any Bronze Age migration?

              Science is reasoning, and all scientists agree that you are wrong. The only ‘joke’ is you. Maybe you should stick to watching videos of kids playing on snowboards as it is more your level?

              https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/news/2021/december/britons-adapted-to-drink-milk-millennium-earlier-than-Europeans.html

              > The researchers found that the lactase persistence gene, which allows humans to drink milk in adulthood, increased sharply in frequency until it was found in about half of Britons in the Iron Age, as opposed to around 7% in the rest of Europe. The impact of this is still felt today, with those of British genetic ancestry much more likely to have this mutation than those from elsewhere.

              ‘It’s easy to assume that the ability to drink milk would happen at the same time as people started farming but it didn’t,’ Selina says. ‘It’s been a real wild card, but we see a massive increase in the frequency of this genetic variant in Britain in the Iron Age which doesn’t seem to coincide with a specific migratory event.’

            • Mirror on the wall says:

              The present provides an excellent example of how the ratio of ancestral components can change in a region.

              Eg. 32% of the residents of Sweden are of an immigrant background, so maybe ~50% of children. Sweden may have had a high ratio of Steppe ancestry once upon a time, but it does not any more.

              Scotland now has a much higher ratio of Steppe ancestry than Sweden.

              So it is entirely evident that the origin of an ancestral component cannot be determined from present distributions.

            • Kowalainen says:

              Hey, I thought I was the one who don’t like kids?

              Let’s enjoy watching them play with their snowboards, skis and steeds of aluminum and other fine man made materials.

              I must admit I envy them for their godlike prowess on devices of entertainment spawned from MIC devised materials. Ahh, high grade alloys and fiber reinforced plastics going full send with a kiddo strapped in on top.

              A bit cheaper than F22’s, though.
              https://youtu.be/UPd05ESntC8

              But you get the idea, don’t ya?

              Archeology is still a joke.
              Genetics don’t lie.
              🤣👍👍

    • Student says:

      Mirror, these reports you share are very interesting and they completely re-write the ancient history we used to study when we attended school and even the history that young people are studying at the moment.
      There are civilizations that also cultured adult people currently have never heard about.
      Can you suggest a book which gives a more updated version of the history about the period copper-bronze-iron?
      Many thanks

  23. From OilPrice two days ago, Russia Has Started Exporting Diesel To Saudi Arabia

    Russia started exporting diesel to Saudi Arabia—its ally in the OPEC+ group—in February, after Moscow’s key fuel export outlet, the EU, enacted an embargo on seaborne imports of Russian oil products on February 5, Reuters reported on Tuesday, quoting traders and ship-tracking data.

    Ahead of the EU ban on Russian petroleum products, Russia began to divert its oil product cargoes to North Africa and Asia, while Europe is ramping up imports of diesel from the Middle East and Asia to offset the loss of Russian barrels, of which it imported around 600,000 barrels per day (bpd) before the February 5 embargo took effect.

    Now, according to Refnitiv data cited by Reuters, at least three cargoes carrying 190,000 tons of diesel loaded in the Russian Baltic port of Primorsk in February and were headed to deliver the fuel to Saudi Arabia.

    Also:

    Russia has said it would reduce its oil production by 500,000 bpd this month in response to the Western sanctions, a move that may affect the level of its oil and fuel exports.

    • Student says:

      Thank you.
      Buying Russian diesel from Saudi Arabia is one of the most hilarious and tragic things that are happening lately in the world.

  24. Fast Eddy says:

    CANCER! Exploding!!!

    https://t.me/DowdEdward/2533

    The good thing is … that the MORE-ONS don’t make the connection with the Rat Juice… so friends and family of the Turbo Cancered … do you know what…

    Yep … they keep on Boosting!!!

    Hey norm … even though you read this … you’ll continue boosting won’t you.

    Hahaha.. that’s the beauty of this — it’s like telling an imb ecile the winning numbers of the 50 million dollar lottery … and they refuse to play hahahaha..

    norm – that was a punchline — laugh boy

  25. Fast Eddy says:

    Hey norm .. why did they give Midazolam to people with severe covid/flu?

    Warnings

    Midazolam can slow or stop your breathing, especially if you have recently used an opioid medication or alcohol. Midazolam is given in a hospital, dentist office, or other clinic setting where your vital signs can be watched closely.

    Before taking this medicine
    You should not use midazolam if you are allergic to it, or if you have:

    narrow-angle glaucoma;

    untreated or uncontrolled open-angle glaucoma; or

    an allergy to cherries.

    Tell your doctor if you have ever had:

    glaucoma;

    breathing problems; or

    congestive heart failure.

    Tell your doctor if you are pregnant or breastfeeding.

    https://www.drugs.com/mtm/midazolam.html

    • Foolish Fitz says:

      “Midazolam can slow or stop your breathing, especially if you have recently used an opioid medication”

      They filled them full of morphine to make them ‘comfortable'(no complaining*) and then they introduced the Midazolam and anyone that didn’t die got put on a ventilator to finish the job.

      DNRs and NICE gave them the protocol and that’s all a sniveling scribe needs to justify anything. A DNR, which was put on all pensioners and disabled(including children), without consent, can not be taken away once put on record, so even if a proven error and your now fully fit, until you get out you can be put on an end of life pathway, if they can just get one test to come back positive and they tested, tested and tested.

      https://wherearethenumbers.substack.com/p/what-really-caused-the-surge-in-covid

      *No complaining from the family either, if they can’t see what’s happening and they were banned from entry.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        How much evil do you need to do … to carry out good.

        I imagine some of the folks who are pulling the levers on this … have daily sessions with a counsellor … and are on Xanax… but most are like this (the evil is justified by the good – killing 500k children ensured the oil made it to market — the system remained intact… otherwise total collapse and billions die… this is the math — and she should feel zero shame in admitting it)

        https://youtu.be/nP_VnVlFhXU

    • i had dinner with a doc friend last thursday, he came to my latest doomfest lecture

      he didnt enquire about my pregnancy or breastfeeding, so i didn’t bring the subject up.

  26. Fast Eddy says:

    Andrew Wiggins Misses Sixth Straight Game Due To A ‘Family Matter’: “It’s Clear That He’s Dealing With Something Serious”
    March 3, 2023

    The Warriors need Wiggins, but so does family. And prayers are up for the immensely talented forward to make a speedy return to the court.

    Andrew Wiggins was one of the notable absentees in the Golden State Warriors’ comprehensive 115-91 win against the LA Clippers on Thursday. In fact, it made the sixth straight game that the forward has missed for the defending champions.

    Recently, GM Bob Myers offered some insight into the 28-year-old’s absence, citing that Wiggins missed the games due to “personal reasons,” and the prolonged absence could only mean that he’s dealing with something serious, the extent of which is unknown.

    https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/p/joe-biden-andrew-tate-barclays-ceo

    The way it works is if CNNBBC don’t say it’s the vax… the MORE-ONS do not connect the dots.

  27. Fast Eddy says:

    Lot’s of SCHAD here https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/p/joe-biden-andrew-tate-barclays-ceo including

    Roxanne Perez was in action on the 7th of March edition of NXT television but it is what happened after the match that has got fans worried….

    Perez retained her title against the former NXT UK Women’s Champion but moments later she collapsed in the ring and was eventually placed on a stretcher before being taken away in an ambulance.

    An update provided by WWE added that Roxanne Perez was to be kept in the hospital overnight for observation of her condition.

    https://tjrwrestling.net/news/roxanne-perez-collapses-on-nxt-tv/

    21 year old MMA amateur suffers cardiac arrest during MMA bout

    A 21-year old amateur mixed martial artist competing at the Southern Indiana Combat was rushed to the hospital after experiencing a cardiac arrest during his bout on March 4th.

    Isaiah Abels was in his third amateur MMA bout and had just entered the second round of his event with Saevon Canto at the Veterans Memorial Coliseum when he appeared to enter medical distress after a takedown attempt.

    The referee was initially unaware of the issue and believed a stoppage had occurred, but medical staff soon realized what had happened and assisted Abels’ breathing while getting his heart going.

    https://calfkicker.com/21-year-old-mma-amateur-suffers-cardiac-arrest-during-mma-bout/

  28. Fast Eddy says:

    Prepping us for Global Holodomor .. see UEP

    The attempt to control our food system begins
    “slowly at first”

    https://hiddencomplexity.substack.com/p/the-attempt-to-control-our-food-system

    • Part of what this commenter has to say:

      I will reiterate as many times as I need, the current H5N1 strain is a literal byproduct of a failed Egyptian vaccine, it took a few years for it to reassort and become a pandemic among birds. By forcing you to register your poultry [a possible new requirement in England mentioned earlier in the article], you can be 100% certain they will obligate you to also vaccinate your flock.

      This a two-fold problem, as I warned before unless any vaccine developed for avian flu stops transmission or is neutralizing, this will backfire, incredibly fast, because that is the nature of influenza. And the veiled attempt to control of food system. Embedded in linguistic manipulation over the literature of many organizations you can easily spot the attempt to shift the entire planet from animal protein to plant-based and insect-based diet.

      If mRNA is used to vaccinate domestic poultry, you can already tell it will taint the food supply (I am 90% sure it will pass through the eggs, easily, with all its contaminants).

      • Fast Eddy says:

        We ain’t moving to an insect based diet… anymore than there is going to be a Great Reset.

        We are running out of affordable energy…

    • Minority of One says:

      The author mentions a tick recently introduced to the USA, that could increase the price of beef:

      “Since the Asian longhorned tick was first discovered in the United States in New Jersey in 2017, it’s been detected in more than a dozen states and migrated as far west as Kansas.

      A big concern is that the tick is the primary vector for theileria, a disease that causes severe anemia in cows that eventually leads to death…”

      The drought in the Western half of the USA has lead to a large cull of cattle, due to lack of grazing, especially in Texas and another state I can’t remember which one, which I presume has lead to a glut of beef and lower prices? But should over the next year or so see big hikes in the price of beef. Just speculating, I don’t know that.

  29. Dennis L. says:

    A little humor from Kunsler current post, he is using the Titanic as a metaphor.

    “Didn’t think it would come to this when you signed on to the voyage? I guess so. You were comfortably ensconced one winter night in the mini-McMansion, on the overstuffed sofa, entertained by some Netflix inanity, scarfing down the microwaved cheeze morsels… when the wife said, “Hey, let’s book a cruise!” Seemed like a good idea at the time, which is what everything in the annals of history is and was. And now, look at where you are!”

    The North Atlantic off Newfoundland is really very cold, speak from experience. Was once offered a life vest while whale watching, replied I would swim for an adjacent iceberg, always an optimist.

    Dennis L.

  30. Hubbs says:

    Looks like the US is trying to stir up trouble in Tblisi, George in the Caucus. Basically, the sovereign Georgian government had tried to pass a law requiring disclosure/ transparency of foreign funds flowing into the country, laws that are already on most other nations’ books. Now serious protests have erupted in Tblisi against this bill which would require dsiclosure of the source of this money, Huh?
    Sounds like Ukraine Maidan 2014 all over again. US needs to keep meddling in other countries to “ensure their democracy.”

    The Georgian government has yielded to these proxy protestors, probably funded by the US/CIA-Antifa/BLM/Maidan style. The bill has been withdrawn.
    Brian Berletic goes on to clarify the Georgian invasion of Russia, reportedly goaded into it by the US, at great cost to Georgia, just like Ukraine.

    Georgia it seems had actually been the one who had attacked Russia years ago in a short 5 day war, Spurred on by the CIA/US and getting Georgia to join the EU as it drives off the cliff. It’s the same thing over and over again. No wonder the US is so hated in the world.

    Brian Berletic seems like a pretty square shooter to me.

    • ivanislav says:

      Oh the horror – if you org takes greater than 20% of its revenue from foreign sources, it must be disclosed! How tyrannical!

    • No wonder the US is hated. It goes around the world stirring up trouble, in the name of spreading democracy and western value.

      • Sam says:

        The U.S is doing what super powers do….can you give me a benevolent super power any time in history?

        • Kowalainen says:

          Pax Americana has been good to me so far. Fine technological gadgets, systems, fossil fuels and entertainment.

          BAU I believe it is called.

          Let’s be real, Ukelele and Georgia is two of the most corrupt shithole countries, wanting to skim off the BAU milk without the dues. I.e. wanna get doleros without scrutiny. 💵

      • Harry says:

        Swiss journalist Roger Köppel said in a recent lecture on “War and Peace”: Great countries are like predators!

      • Fast Eddy says:

        What’s insane is that the folks who benefit from the US pillaging … often hate the US.

        hahahahaha… they could try moving to Somalia – but they won’t – they like Livin Large

      • MaxMushroom says:

        Most people living in the West do not hate the United States. We understand the world needs a global policeman and better it the US, with its openness, than China.

        • Withnail says:

          We understand the world needs a global policeman and better it the US, with its openness, than China.

          You believe the US is a ‘global policeman’?

          You’re trolling, right?

        • Jan says:

          There is widespread distrust and anti-americanism in Germany and Austria. This refers usually to politics, military intervention and the social situation of poors, in Germany also to the stationing of weapons and too much influence on the German government.

          Americans as a people are sometimes criticised for being superficial. But generally there is a huge love to the American people, that are considered to be relatives and “brothers”, a deep love to Black Music, a strong love to Native Americans, that a lot of young people have read stories about as children. Americans are considered to be responsible, intelligent, learned, pragmatic and “cool”.

          • MaxMushroom says:

            Ya similar here, which is unfair i think. If you’re Ukrainian, or Taiwanese, or Kurdish (til Trump), you’re certainly happy with the US.

            • Withnail says:

              Why wold Ukrainians be happy? The US is giving them enough arms to get their country wrecked but not win the war.

            • MaxMushroom says:

              You dont let me away with much do you. US should be giving them more weapons, indeed.

            • Withnail says:

              You dont let me away with much do you. US should be giving them more weapons, indeed.

              But they can’t. The USA can’t produce enough new steel for a large scale arms industry any more.

              Russia on its own produces almost twice as much coking coal as America, China produces more than 10 times as much.

            • MaxMushroom says:

              The US & NATO, hopefully giving enough time for someone to put a bullet in Putins head. Russia is a country where the best & brightest have fleed from, include 4 colleagues of mine. You talk so much about metals and oil, people are resources too and they are haemorrhaging those. Its now one big mob country now, and when you take out a mob leader the mob usually collapses.

            • Withnail says:

              The US & NATO, hopefully giving enough time for someone to put a bullet in Putins head

              The entire EU (most of NATO) produces 13 million tons of coking coal a year. Russia produces 90 million tons. China produces 550 million tons. Coking coal is needed to produce new steel at economically viable prices.

              New steel is needed to have a large scale armaments industry that can produce things like, say, artillery shells.

            • drb753 says:

              Note that the weapons are arriving after 8 years of economic decline. And the economic decline started after a coup that deposed an elected president. I think you are out of your depth.

            • MaxMushroom says:

              They elected a president on a mandate of a trade agreement with the EU. After the election he turned around, rejected the EU deal, and cowardly signed up to a deal with Russia. He then ordered his soldiers to shoot unarmed protestors.

              Remarkable anti-Ukraine and anti-US bias on this site. Makes me question everything that’s said here about collapse with so many deluded on pretty straightforward geopolitical issues. Guess I got to pick and choose who to listen to.

            • Withnail says:

              They elected a president on a mandate of a trade agreement with the EU. After the election he turned around, rejected the EU deal, and cowardly signed up to a deal with Russia. He then ordered his soldiers to shoot unarmed protestors.

              Almost none of this is true.

            • MaxMushroom says:

              Ah Jaysus. Thats literally exactly what happened. I give up with you. Least I have some context now for your whole “we’re going back to the stone age in 20 years” lark.

            • Withnail says:

              Ah Jaysus. Thats literally exactly what happened.

              It’s what the BBC told you happened. But you didn’t bother to do any research or reading to find out what really did happen.

            • Kowalainen says:

              I guess people generally like to live in Pax Americana territories, rather than in corrupt shithole countries rife with nepotism and cronyism.

              Let’s be real: For sure people whinge about the US and the MIC on their iPhones over the Internet. Think about that for a moment…

              Ah the irony.
              🤣👍👍

            • Lastcall says:

              Remind me how to grow a Mushroom; keep in the dark and feed ….?
              Yep.
              Job done.

          • Withnail says:

            Note that the weapons are arriving after 8 years of economic decline

            They aren’t. Warehouse stocks of 155mm artillery shells from the US have been used up now, 1 million shells.

            The US can’t supply more than a fraction of the Ukrainian army’s daily needs and can’t ramp up manufacturing to make more. Needless to say, Europe can’t either.

            Russia and China have called the USA’s bluff and are exposing its true weakness.

        • Jarle says:

          > US, with its openness …

          Yeah, right!

          • Withnail says:

            Laughable isn’t it. He must be on Prozac or something.

            • MaxMushroom says:

              if a Chinaman protests against Xi on the streets, a Russian protests against Putin on the streets, and an American protests against Biden on the streets, guess which 1 of the 3 wont go to jail for years on end? Theres no point in arguing with people who claim the West is a worse place to live to anywhere else – its just a symptom of our cultural disfunction.

            • that’s what i find mystifying on OFW

              US citizens can slag off Biden as much as they want, yet nothing happens to them.—- and I’m regularly told that Biden is the bad guy i n numerous respects,

              while Putin is the one wronged by we in the west

              weird thinking

            • MaxMushroom says:

              It’s very common. Withnail here defending presumably Russia and Putin, while my 4 Russian colleagues hate the man and have been forced to emigrate. It’s a symptom of our cultural disfunction. Every read William Offuls? He speaks about the unforeseen and disastrous consequences of driving the church out of Western society. Seemed like a good idea at the time but we’re left with a culture full of delusion, lacking morality and mores, and any sense of solidarity.

            • i take your meaning about the church Max but—-

              >>>>>Seemed like a good idea at the time but we’re left with a culture full of delusion, lacking morality and mores, and any sense of solidarity.<<<<<

              i can see the purpose of religion, but that description applies to many branches of the church itself i'm afraid, not just christianity either.

            • MaxMushroom says:

              Yes it doesnt matter what the belief is. Throughout history the pattern has been the same. Once people lose belief in then”infinite” society tends to come apart. We need superstition to hold it together. We also need homogeneous socities, which we no longer have either.

            • It is much easier to teach a homogenous classroom than one that is not.

              Having a common belief system is important. Religions have served an important role in this. Superstitions would also work.

            • Withnail says:

              >i>if a Chinaman protests against Xi on the streets, a Russian protests against Putin on the streets, and an American protests against Biden on the streets, guess which 1 of the 3 wont go to jail for years on end?

              Do people really go to jail for years in Russia or China for protesting? That’s what the media tells me but i don’t believe the media.

              I do know that protests are illegal in London unless cleared with the police and if you protest without having one cleared you will be arrested.

            • drb753 says:

              You are most definitely out of your depth. Study some history and come back in a year or so.

            • Withnail says:

              You are most definitely out of your depth. Study some history and come back in a year or so.

              No I’m not. I know the rules in London, thank you.

            • drb753 says:

              I was replying to the mushroom not to withnail.

            • Withnail says:

              I was replying to the mushroom not to withnail.

              Oh sorry, my mistake.

            • Withnail says:

              that’s what i find mystifying on OFW

              US citizens can slag off Biden as much as they want, yet nothing happens to them.—- and I’m regularly told that Biden is the bad guy i n numerous respects,

              while Putin is the one wronged by we in the west

              I don’t say that anyone is or is not the bad guy. That’s low IQ thinking from the kind of people who watch the news and believe politics and personalities matter and that the news tells them the truth.

              What I do is point out that our ideas about which countries are powerful/economically important are wildly at odds with the actual situation.

              I believe that we in the West are far weaker than we have been led to believe and that our adversaries are far stronger. I believe we are going to lose this war. That’s all.

            • Withnail says:

              It’s very common. Withnail here defending presumably Russia and Putin

              Defending nobody. Haven’t said a single thing in favour of the man.

              I only talk about real things like energy.

            • postkey says:

              “2019 RAND Paper . . .
              As far back as 2019, US Army-commissioned studies examined different means to provoke and antagonize Russia who they acknowledged sought to avoid conflict. “
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqVPM0KSUpo&t=5s
              https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html

      • Cheese can cause nightmares says:

        “No wonder the US is hated.”

        Careful. Under Dubya, people were waterboarded for less.

        I expect Biden would be more traditional. He would send a platoon round to dig a swimming pool in your back yard, then fill it with water. Next they’d carry in the ducking stool apparatus, and you’d be put to the test. Yikes!

    • Ed says:

      Color revolution to drive NATO into the gut of Russia.

      Russia and China need to decide when or if they will stand.

      • Withnail says:

        They already had a colour revolution in 2002.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_Revolution

        It led to the Saakashvili presidency and the 2008 South Ossetia war. Saakashvili is currently serving a prison sentence in Georgia but has been moved to a civilian clinic due to ill health. I’m sure he will make an appearance soon.

    • Jan says:

      Georgia is situated at the Eastern End of the Black Sea and is neighbour of Azerbaijan. Azerbaijan owns relevant reserves of oil.

      Georgia and Azerbaijan are into talks to join the European Union. If self-determination led to the wish to sell oil according to Brussels wishes and not Moscows the only possible trade route would lead through the Black Sea. The Black Sea is dominated by the Russian Black Sea Fleet, garrisoned at Crimea, Ukraine.

      If NATO wanted to establish independency from Russia in the Black Sea and secure delivery, it had to diminish the influence of the Russian military.

      The Black Sea, though, is the only geological possibility for Russia to connect to international markets. The north is blocked by ice, Balticum controlled by NATO and probably not continuously ice-free, the south limited by mountains and Novgorod extremely far.

      I’d suggest to see the Ukrainian war as a war for oil.

      https://twitter.com/PeImeniPusha/status/1633476363389911042

      • Ravi Uppal says:

        Max , to your comment on the Russian, Chinese and American , my response .
        None are so hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free. The truth has been kept from the depth of their minds by masters who rule them with lies. They feed them on falsehoods till wrong looks like right in their eyes.”
        — Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

    • Withnail says:

      Georgians think the US and EU have strong economies and are in a position to help them. They don’t know it’s all smoke and mirrors.

      The fact that we can’t produce artillery shells for our other puppet Ukraine should be a clue.

  31. Agamemnon says:

    https://www.eetimes.com/how-much-power-do-autonomous-vehicles-use-a-lot/

    But it needs to be able to self drive first.

    • “A model of power consumption by autonomous vehicles predicts that once widely adopted, they will consume as much power worldwide as data centers do.”

      Except we cannot maintain even the current level of electricity, without at least today’s level of fossil fuels. Wind and solar get us practically nowhere.

  32. moss says:

    palpable HG/Lord of the Flies flavour through the threads this month …
    nice aroma?
    HGs are as dead as the neanderthal
    this may have been the passing of their last recorder
    “Tobias Schneebaum, a New York writer, artist and explorer who in the 1950’s lived among cannibals in the remote Amazon jungle and, by his own account, sampled their traditional cuisine, died on Tuesday in Great Neck, N.Y. He was in his mid-80’s and a longtime resident of Greenwich Village.”
    nytimes.com/2005/09/25/obituaries/tobias-schneebaum-chronicler-and-dining-partner-of-cannibals.html
    the obituary doesn’t give much focus on his later time among HGs on the island of New Guinea which was as fascinating a perspective on humankind as his Amazon years. Another 20thC writer with great depth on Amazon HGs was Richards Evans Schultes from Harvard who followed in the footsteps of the 19thC natural history collectors like Spruce and Wallace and Darwin.

    There are myriad works documenting the 20thC contact period with globalisation and the result. Chaos with tiny islands of bubbles hoping their sense of gravity is founded on bedrock. Burroughs and Wade Davis have written on the decay of Anmazon HGs from their individual views.

    However civilizations have skeletons of society, dissipative structures to channel energy as rapidly as physics can be configured to engender.
    These structures are constructed by conscious mortal beings functioning through narrative. Humans it’s communication control, termites it’s pheromones.
    Civilizations, history has shown, can build immense energy dissipators through narratives created by elite control
    Roll on fission

    Since the days of Thucydidies when the oligarchs seized control of western civilisations, other civilisations have largely remained fluid, regional and with large areas of no man’s land. The 20thC consolidated control for the domination of globalisation through trade and complexity, and we are living the largely chaotic result, present times.

    “Keep the River on Your Right” caused a sensation when it was published. Anthropologists were aghast: ethnographers were not supposed to sleep with their subjects, much less eat them. Interviewers were titillated. (“How did it taste?” a fellow guest asked Mr. Schneebaum on “The Mike Douglas Show.” “A little bit like pork,” he replied.)

    • We would have a very difficult time becoming hunter gatherers. Hunter gatherers need to have a whole culture of their own, including a way of punishing those who do not abide by the rules (throw them out; kill them). They need to figure out a division of labor, and they need tools for hunting and gathering. They need to cook at least part of their food; thus, they need a way of cooking and of starting fire when needed. They obviously need fuel for cooking. Cooking is easy with metal pots and a stove; H-G’s had to work around this. They needed to make tools to kill wild animals. Their population was limited by food supply.

      Virtually no one today would be able to succeed as a H-G.

      • Jan says:

        It is possible to boil water without metals or ceramics by filling water into a hole in a rock or using animal skin, heating stones and placing them hot into the water.

        An simple bowl can also be made by scratching a hole into wood with a stone.

        Ceramics are made from tiny particles in clay. Clay must be mixed with water, the tiny particles swim up and will be decanted. Repeating this process, material for ceramics can be aquired from nearly every soil. Or course there are deposits with better suited material but this has to be transported.

        In a fire from charcoal burning around 24 hours this material can be baked into ceramics. The process is not simple as heating and cooling may lead to cracks. These ceramics will not be water proof.

        Mix some of the purified clay material with wood ash and water. Glaze the burned ceramics. Heat them again. The ceramics will be watertight.

        To make bows the biggest challenge is the arrow’s tip. A metal tip is a huge improvement. To fix a tip from flint stone birch tar is needed. A flint stone blade is made by chopping parts off.

        The bow itself is made from ash tree, the bow string is a tendon.

        Hunter-gatherers have technology. These methods do not require complex systems. There is no need for ubiquous availability of industrial pre-products. Materials can be found nearly everywhere in the environment. You cannot make a semiconductor in your workshop using materials from your garden or nearby resources. But you can make a bow in your workshop and find materials close.

        That does not mean that any programmer or accountant or nurse or literature teacher can make a pot, a bow, a pullover or googles tomorrow. Knowledge and skills are needed. But all bears the possibility to develop knowledge onesself. That is in my view impossible with the development of optical glass for microscopes or telescopes. The underlying mechanisms are too complex and the needed pre-products cannot be obtained so easily by materials from the nearby environment. Just to give a tiny example: optical glass is smelted in vessels of pure platinum. Any more questions?

        I think it would be resonsible to let the loss of technology as a consequence of a foreseeable lower complexity not drop too deep. There are technologies that will obviously work after a complete systemic crash. Metals will be widely available, if cars and steel from constructions would be reprocessed or protected with oils, otherwise they rust away and enrich the soil with iron molecules. Are these metals ‘food grade’? I dont know.

        There is comprehensive knowledge in archeology, biology and history, how processes were used in the past.

        Electricity is a complex matter as copper and isolation substances are needed. But copper does not rust away and Kerria Lacca for shellac could be raised also in Europe or the US, so trade would not be a requirement. I am sure there are people who know how it could be done. Electricity does not mean to continue using washing machines, but perhaps to construct simple Geiger Counters, sound recording or even simple x-ray equipment for medical use.

        There is still the possibility to develop simplified solutions, to gather some global and historic knowledge and to train people.

        That would allow a positive perception of the future and be valuable for the kids. It seems to me a feasible alternative to smashing all into pieces and dreaming of a degeneration of humans into mice.

        We are meant to administer our talents wisely.

        Yes, of course that would still lead to change and a huge population decline. But that seems unavoidable in any case.

        In the 5th or 8th generation, we are all related to the British Queen. We are a huge family and if some survive, we all survive.

        • Withnail says:

          Electricity does not mean to continue using washing machines, but perhaps to construct simple Geiger Counters, sound recording or even simple x-ray equipment for medical use.

          Impossible. A mediaeval economy isn’t big enough to have people taken out of the workforce to make things like that, and there won’t be any education system to train them how to do it.

          • Jan says:

            It is not so difficult. A basic Geiger counter can be made with a used can and an isolated wire inside. Some coils and a basic speaker are needed also. And a voltage source, a battery or generator. No need to understand the quantum physical mechanisms behind. And copper will be easily available for a long time. The problem is the isolator within coils. Shellac would be okay but is currently not produced in Europe or the USA due to the Ricardoan paradigm. Kerria Lacca grow on a lot of plants and I am sure it is possible to cultivate them – but not after a breakdown of all communication with India! To start that today can be financed as a hobby, try some plants, get a license and import the for a few hundred dollars!

            There are other possibilities that could be prepared today: Russian dandelion provides rubber! It is a question of a few hundred dollars to import them to the US. People can make rubber to use for sealing, as a V-belt or for shoes. It does not pay to plant them commercially but for a low-scale future use it could be of great help.

            Reading old texts – archive.org is a great source – it becomes clear, how things developed in the past. People with some spare time, be it monks (Mendel) or rich people thought cleverly and brought technology forward. I my eyes a symptom of availability of pre-products, not only intelligence.

            Modern research invests huge efforts to progress and often come to a blind end. The laws of complexity also apply to science.

            In Salzburg they have found relevand mining and processing of ores that is 6.000 years old in an industrial scale. They have found relevant amounts of slag. That is proof! People had a basic understanding of the chemical processes and labour division.

            The ideas of what people can do without fossile fuels in this comment section does not meet historical and archeological evidence. But of course there are huge steps to make and I agree to the danger that everything is lost for a long time.

            The more I think there should be some relevant preparation!

        • moss says:

          “administer our talents wisely”
          yes indeed; very much so.
          There will be plenty of old metals pots around left for boiling water
          Even leaving aside the fetid and the desirable
          aren’t 7.999B going to be a wonderful food source
          for bacteria?

          • Jan says:

            Stainless steel? I would boil them out with wood ash and water and not be afraid of bacterias. Treat rust with acid and scratch off bad parts with sand.

            7.999B does not say anything to me. Is that a grade standard for steel?

            There are videos on YT, how people today in third world countries smelt aluminium cans into teapots and cattles for sale. Not what I would like to use! I guess there are a lot of situations, when you have to choose between die now or die later. Some people will sacrifice themselves and others will know.

            In the beginning of the sewing needle industry in Germany workers hardly got older than 40 years breathing the metal dust. It was well paid. They could feed their families.

            Today poor underage girls and boys from Eastern Europe work in prostitution in Berlin or other large cities to feed their families.

            • Withnail says:

              7.999B does not say anything to me.

              He means 7.999 billion people will die and rot.

  33. Lastcall says:

    Wokesters are so unwoke…and hence the new normal has been in planning for quite some time. The biggest beneficiaries of the Govt are largely invisible.
    Hence we have politicians trained in the art of mis-direction. Obama was a master at this; virtue as Nobel peace prize, terror as in 3 new wars and expanded techno-security state.

    ‘The eventual concession to universal suffrage, however, gave those who grudgingly conceded it ample time to turn this threat to their advantage, and make the vastly expanded electorate the object of demographically targeted political strategies. It was from this necessity, and from the opportunity it afforded, that the modern mass media were born.

    A century later, universal suffrage has produced not the Platonic ideal of a universally educated, socially conscientious and politically informed demos but, to the contrary, a people governed by virtue and terror. It is not only in the interests of a Government and its beneficiaries to keep the electorate both ignorant and stupid; it is necessary in order to maintain its grip on power — and not only a sitting Government but every political party that hopes to form one.

    This hardly needs to be argued, as the evidence of the erasure of our politics, which every year descends to new lows of populism, is denied only by those who strut on its stages, script its tragedies and direct their endings from behind the scenes.

    For the same reason, universal education, which has always served to indoctrinate citizens into the dominant ideology, has been transformed into more or less explicit propaganda for the changing values and pressing needs of Western capitalism far beyond how we vote. Globalism, multiculturalism, political correctness, identity politics, environmental fundamentalism, the orthodoxies of woke and now the dogma and cultic practices of biosecurity are all products of the neoliberalisation of our education, media and culture industries.’

    https://off-guardian.org/2023/02/18/virtue-and-terror-how-the-new-normal-was-created/

    • Self-organizing systems behave strangely. We don’t understand woke-ism.

      I imagine part of woke-ism is in response to the way the world is today, with not enough jobs that pay well to go around. Men, in particular, are finding themselves left out. Women don’t want to marry men who don’t earn enough. They would rather find another well-educated woman to live with, and start a family with.

      A large number of men find themselves without jobs that pay well and without partners. They cannot afford children either. They look for recognition some other way.

      Universities have high overhead. They find their enrollment dropping, basically because there are not a enough jobs that pay well for graduates. Rather than reduce programs, they push the idea that anyone can succeed (even though there really aren’t jobs suitable for graduates at the other end).

      If some children end up sterile because of attempts at sex change, that (sort of) indirectly helps the overpopulation problem.

      And so on.

  34. Ravi Uppal says:

    Gail . my post in reply to Denise regarding Australia has gone into the ether . This is happening repeatedly to my posts . Please rectify ,

    • There aren’t any pending post of yours that I can see.

      You might make a copy of your comment so you can repost, if something goes astray. I let through nearly all the posts I review. Check on a prior page. You can use the “Search” button to look for “Ravi Uppal” for example.

  35. Lastcall says:

    Another one bites the dust…

    ‘The process requires vast amounts of energy so much so that algal biofuel production might consume more energy than it produces, some researchers concluded.” – Christopher Matthews, “Exxon Sees Green Gold In Algae-Based Fuels. Skeptics See Greenwashing” (Wall Street Journal, October 4, 2021)’

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/03/07/exxonmobil-cans-algae-greenwash-failure/

    ‘Peace in our time….’

    ‘ExxonMobil executives tried to appease their enemies, and this is what they get? It was all laid out by one Steve Milloy, who has actively urged the company’s executives not to try to appease their enemies but to stand proud for what they believe in: oil and gas for the masses.’

    Funny how the enemies of FF are some of their biggest users; Al Gore, De Crappso, Grates, Obummer…

    • If the analysis could figure out all of the indirect use of energy that goes into algae-based fuels because of the complexity of the needed system, I am sure the result would be quite a bit worse.

  36. Fast Eddy says:

    https://rumble.com/v2b09g2-tucker-carlson-today-sudden-death-epidemic-full-episode.html

    @DowdEdward

    Rumble (https://rumble.com/v2b09g2-tucker-carlson-today-sudden-death-epidemic-full-episode.html)

    Tucker Carlson Today | Sudden Death Epidemic (Full episode)
    Author Ed Dowd joins ‘Tucker Carlson Today’ to discuss the ‘very large’ measurable increases in excess deaths across the Western world.

    • Rodster says:

      Thanks for the links !

      • Fast Eddy says:

        I get pleasure from spreading the misery of the Rat Juicers.

        Vile scum MOREONS.

    • Tucker Carlson interviews Ed Dowd. Ed Dowd explains how this is the third time he has made a correct call, (Dot Com bubble; housing prices always go up before). He always looks at the situation dispassionately for changes in trend. He knew that if there was a problem with the vaccines, it would show up in Funeral Home and Life Insurance data.

      One thing he says is that he prayed to God, “Make me a lightening rod, to show what is really happening. He says that God answered his prayer by sending Dr. Malone to Maui (where Dowd lives), so that he could learn more about the issue.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Malone insists there is no malicious intent.. if there is no malicious intent its all a mistake therefore there is nobody to target. And we get exterminated without a fight

        He is Deep State

        • reante says:

          The national socialisms will be forward-looking not vengeful. Structurally antisemitic but not culturally. By design. Because the elites are the opposite of stupid.

        • Rodster says:

          The blame starts with Tony Fauci. He started this mess and made it worse by killing people unnecessarily with his top down Covid protocols that did more harm than good. He also blocked any alternative treatments that had a high success rate and instead pushed more pharmaceuticals thereby further enriching Big Pharma.

          So yeah, Robert Malone is way off base that no one was to blame. He just doesn’t want to indict one of his own. Except, Fauci is not a real doctor, he never practiced medicine and instead became a highly paid government bureaucrat, once he left med school.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            His role is to ensure the mob doesn’t unhinge and go on the rampage … that might prematurely upset BAU….

            Better they do not perceive a target….and instead stay on SS ranting.

            I am sure most anti vax movements have players embedded who push the non violent line….

            Not that violence would overturn UEP … you wanna see the fangs unsheathe … try attacking the police… the anti terrorist brigades are standing by

            Malone is doing god’s work

  37. https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Investors-Start-To-Realize-The-Energy-Transition-Will-Take-Decades.html

    Investors Start To Realize The Energy Transition Will Take Decades

    “Energy Trilemma”

    Unlike a few years ago, everyone in the oil and gas industry is now talking about decarbonization and net-zero emissions. But unlike in 2021, ESG considerations are not top of the agenda—2022, with the Russian invasion of Ukraine and the price spikes in gasoline and power prices, upended the debate. The energy transition narrative, from the industry’s point of view, became part of the ‘energy trilemma’ as BP’s chief executive Bernard Looney has put it—delivering secure and affordable energy when and where it’s needed while raising investments in renewables and other low-carbon energy solutions.

    According to analysts, there is a broader understanding among the public and governments that until a clean energy system is ready, oil and gas will continue to play a prominent role in global energy supply and, like it or not, we are stuck with fossil fuels for our current energy needs. Right now, fossil fuels account for just over 80% of global energy supply.

  38. Fast Eddy says:

    SCHAD Time

    Barbara Frangi, famous YouTube cook, died suddenly
    March 4, 2023

    “It is easier for you to be struck by lightning than to have serious adverse reactions. Get vaccinated”. Died: the cook of youtubers Barbara Frangi. [paywall]

    No cause of death reported.

    Foggia – His name was Michele Rossiniello, but on TikTok he was known as ‘Il Naspi’: the 39-year-old from Foggia, wife and two children, died suddenly in the past few hours, according to what is learned of a heart attack. Only a few hours earlier, on February 27, he had published the latest video on his profile, which has just under 200,000 followers.

    Death of Tommaso Fabris, the world of basketball in mourning: a minute’s silence on the courts. He was 17

    Monza – Castro mourns Luca Lazzari, a promising young swimmer who died in Brianza

    Drama in the Modena area in Sassuolo, where a two-and-a-half-year-old boy died in the night between Tuesday and Wednesday in hospital after being taken to the emergency room in the afternoon by his parents, due to some health problems. According to reports from Il Resto del Carlino, the child, who was immediately transferred to the pediatric ward, would have worsened during the night, losing his life after attempts at resuscitation by the doctors.

    No cause of death reported.

    Palermo – Cristian died at 13 after an illness at school

    https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/p/in-memory-of-those-who-died-suddenly-37d

    If you want more SCHAD click here https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/p/in-memory-of-those-who-died-suddenly-eaa

    • Ed says:

      It would have been worse if they had not been vaxed. We all know that. Can we please boost them. Yes, they are dead but it will go badly for them if they are not boosted.

  39. Student says:

    (Jerusalem Post + Israel National News + La Presse + Times of Israel)

    Italy (the aircraft-carrier-country in centre of the mediterranean sea). Unfortunately we are always involved in the middle of some difficult situation…

    ”Israel to offer Italy gas, wants it to recognize Jerusalem as capital.
    Amid heated protests against the proposed reforms to Israel’s judiciary, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has his sights set on Italy recognizing Jerusalem as Israel’s capital.”
    https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-733782

    ”Italian translator refuses to translate for ‘dangerous’ Netanyahu in Rome
    Translator Olga Dalia Padua says ‘my children won’t forgive me’ if she agreed to translate for Israeli PM at Rome synagogue this weekend.”
    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/368441

    https://www.lapresse.it/esteri/2023/03/09/linterprete-italiana-che-rifiuta-netanyahu-un-messaggio-di-risveglio/

    Here you can see what is happening in Israel, in case you are not update on this issue:

    Israel- After morning of clashes, arrests, protesters gear up for evening rallies nationwide. Demonstrations planned outside Nir Barkat’s house in Jerusalem, Yariv Levin’s home in Modi’in, in central Tel Aviv square and at dozens of other locations.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-march-9-2023/

  40. Student says:

    (The new daily)

    What do the Australians have in mind?

    ”Australia to buy five US nuclear submarines as stopgap”

    https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2023/03/09/aukus-nuclear-submarines-plan/

    And also

    ”AUKUS deal to fuel rising China tensions”

    https://www.afr.com/world/asia/aukus-deal-to-fuel-rising-china-tensions-20230309-p5cqsi

    • Australia thinks it has a chance of winning against the big powers? Where does it get food, fuel, and practically every manufactured good? How about the chemicals needed for maintaining fresh water supply?

      • Dennis L. says:

        How about the funny little things put in tubes that go up and come down with a very large bang? Very definitely high tech engineering but a way to ensure someone doesn’t covet all those lovely resources. Maybe someone on the other side of the world would be helpful and source say 60 or so of those bangers.

        Dennis L.

      • Ravi Uppal says:

        Australia is stupid . They shutdown their refineries . Now all oil refined products come from Taiwan , Singapore , China . Finished products inventory is 20 days . Matt Mushalik does an excellent analysis .
        http://crudeoilpeak.info/only-3-4-years-to-replace-save-45-of-australian-diesel-imports

        • I notice that Figure 7 shows where Australia gets its diesel imports. The big sources recently seem to be South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, and Singapore. I would expect these countries get their oil from somewhere else and refine it. The question is, will these supplies hold up? If it is discovered that some of this oil is really Russian oil, would people get upset?

      • Jan says:

        I guess, if – I don’t believe it at the moment – things develop into a hot world war, Australia might fall under Chinese dominance. This is what geopolitical strategists have been talking about for 30 years.

  41. Jan says:

    I don’t have to understand all 356.754.755 ways how the injections could possibly harm.

    I don’t have to prove plans, that military institutions, companies and secret societies keep secret.

    The Green parties used to group together people with a strong sense for peace and environmental aspects. With the Yougoslavian war the former peace movement suddenly called for military action. Environmental care has been replaced by the climate narrative that requires Teslas and other extremely complex technologies. I wonder, where the old guys are? Have they changed their minds? Do they hide in closets? The Greens seem to be not the only institution, that underwent change.

    When I reconsider years of talks with friends about the topic or low-threshold variants, I have often heard something like: If I can’t go on with my party on oil steroids, life does not make any sense to me. I would end it.

    I wonder, if the vaxx discussion subconsciously bears this aspect?

    If we take earnest, what adult people say, we can expect that a lot of people will not be willing to live on lower levels of complexity. The vaxx might be an offer in respect of that decision.

    For me it is not so important, if I live a luxury life, follow my spleens, care for animals in the dirt or do something else that must be done. I wouldn’t like to be kept in camps though, it is against my desire for freedom.

    I have some ideas, that should be done but I feel unable to calculate all possible outcomes. Perhaps I should get more friend with the idea that I cannot control all?

    Usually, I have a strong sense of what will happen, call it a Cassandra gene. Mostly, I am 5 years too early. I don’t know when I trick myself.

    I have the strong idea, that something will happen this year. If I try to rationalize is, we have already seen some “crashes” to lower complexity: the car industry, heating, economic outlook (even when I doubt, we have the right tools to measure it correctly). I guess the next big thing will be on the financial markets. They will use war as a cover to isolate the markets – with all consequences for the availability of goods. I doubt, they have enough oil for a hot war.

    There are measures that could be done easily: rabbits, sauerkraut, sprouts, mushrooms, herbs, seeds. Other measures are more complex and expensive. A huge challenge is the future of property, both concerning criminality as much as confiscation. That make plans very insecure. A consequence will be, that food production does not pay, if we don’t know if we can keep it – or even stay in the area.

    Here a lot of people react in the way, that they don’t comply. They rely on passive resistance and the hope, that, if they wait long enough, all will be like before. To me it doesn’t make any sense.

    I would be interested, how you see that on a personal level?

    • Dennis L. says:

      It is very difficult to acquire the multitude of skills which may be required; it takes a group. Groups are very difficult to keep together; it is said Moses took the tribe into the wilderness to inculcate the basic values of the group. A large family is a group and it is a connection with the ongoing fabric of the universe.

      Personally made a mistake with regards to offspring, only one; too much effort went into that one. Nature’s way is to be fruitful and multiply, one or two will make it, again it is the fabric of the universe.

      If the metaphor is a rapids, the best one can hope for is not to bump one’s head on a rock. Or, go with the flow.

      Dennis L.

      • Jan says:

        I agree! A group, though, has its own dynamics and that’s perhaps something for “a new beginning”? I am still unsure about that. But I guess in case a smaller group of friends and family is quickly possible.

        Congrats for the offspring, I think it is no damage to have only one and try the best. We are 8 bio people!

      • Hubbs says:

        @Dennis L,
        “Groups are very difficult to keep together”
        Very true -when life is easy.

        People will eventually have to band together in smaller more tightly knit groups to share and preserve the remains of their dwindling skills once the luxuries afforded by today’s technology are no longer affordable (from financial, energy and complexity standpoints.) Conflict will intensify. Cohesive self-sufficient communities will be the best solution.
        The UKR -Russia war is just a subset of what the Globalists want. They want to destroy the US from within, as well as encircle Russia and China. BLM and Antifa riots were just a probing action. A world wide defenseless feudal -serf population.

        As citizens in European and other countries are not armed, the numbers of those in the streets will have to be greater to effect any change.

        In the US, for those of us who have millions of guns, the question may be whom will we be shooting at? Those in uniform or those who are not?
        Does the ownership of firearms embolden revolt, or due to the lethal consequences, actually suppress it?

        • Ed says:

          “They want to destroy the US from within”

          Glad I am not the only one who see this.

          • Dennis L. says:

            Ed,

            We destroyed ourselves from within, intellectuals decided God was dead and religious groups went contemporary.

            We don’t know everything, we can go back to a n intellectual big bang, no further and we don’t understand what the universe expands into. You are I think a physicist, perhaps time was invented with a “bang.” Sometimes I can’t resist.

            A good religion works, mine has one obvious rule, don’t screw your neighbor’s wife; not following that one is sure to cause a small war.

            Dennis L.

    • el mar says:

      I am living in Germay and agree 100 percent!
      Could also be my statment!

    • I tried with a little garden. It is hard to produce more than a tiny portion of a family’s calories in such an arrangement. There is a big battle with disease, insects, and animals for what is growing. It is possible to work around these issues with fossil fuel products (netting to put over crops to keep animals out, and sprays, for example). There is also a need to water the crops, during weeks with a shortfall in water. There is also a need for soil amendments or fertilizer to keep up productivity.

      Trying to keep this all up, without what we are used to from the fossil fuel industry becomes impossible. We have grown to expect that a trip to the store will provide whatever we need, but what if that becomes impossible?

      • Fast Eddy says:

        I had more than a little garden… and believe you me … one quickly realizes that without BAU in play … it’s impossible to make this work. When something breaks there won’t be no hardware store…

        Then of course there are all those cousins that will come out of the wood work heading your way cuz food. And the neighbours who didn’t garden. And the hordes.

        If only I had Fast Eddy on board earlier I would not have engaged in Project Futile/Stooopidity — that cost me a lot of VIP lap dances… a lot of blow…

        • NomadicBeer says:

          Gail & FE,
          can I offer a counterpoint?

          You seem to come from the perspective of a city dweller with a small kitchen garden.

          Of course, most of humanity for millenia has survived by growing their own food so the fact that you say it’s very hard/impossible puts you in a very bad light, don’t you think?

          My experience is that it’s doable to produce enough food in the garden if you are humble. What does that mean?

          – Grow what works, not what you want. If that means eating potatoes for the winter, well at least you survive

          – Work with nature. That means that no garden will work unless you have animals too. Chickens, ducks, pigs and goats will all help with pests and diseases. Plus, you get protein, which is much more important for nutrition than carbs.

          – Learn from locals/old people and yes, even from animals. That is probably the biggest obstacle for the modern “educated” back to the lander. They really cannot imagine that their abstractions are not real.
          But when I see a chicken sleeping in a tree and laying eggs under the house, who am I to pretend to know better?

          • Fast Eddy says:

            Wrong

            I lived in a village in Bali – remote. And a small farming community near Nelson NZ.

            Try gardening without the ability to buy shit. A hose for instant. A shovel. How do you irrigate when there is no electricity? How do you keep rabbits and other vermin out? There’s no hardware store…

            As neighbours and family – do they have gardens? What do you do when they show up asking for food? Kill them?

            What about all those city folks who know where the food is grown?

            Consider firewood – every year the trees get further and further away… try cutting a tree – dragging it to your hovel then splitting it. No motorized vehicles – no chainsaw. Good luck.

            Then of course there is this – feel free to ignore it as most do

            http://nuclearstreet.com/images/img/world_map.png

            You are living in the Little House on the Prairie delusion … it won’t be like that

          • Withnail says:

            Of course, most of humanity for millenia has survived by growing their own food

            With regular famines and collapses of civilisation as farmland and forests became exhausted, yes, they sort of survived.

    • Student says:

      Very interesting considerations.
      I agree that something additionally bad could happen this year.
      It is probable that ‘they’ will create some excuse to target some additional Country, maybe China, maybe Iran, maybe North Korea or another one.
      It could also happen through a very dangerous false flag episode.
      Maybe a war will not come out as we imagine, but a strong isolation among group of Countries (as often Gail explains) with the result to have an excuse to reduce consumption.
      Under the excuse of ‘the bad guys’ of the other side, people will be convinced to accept poverty, unemployment, financial collapse, diseases and so on.
      We have already experienced lately how easy is to convince the masses.
      We can see how now people have already accept the general concept of ‘inflation’ as a constant for the future, but don’t make the connection with the sanctions to Russia that have agreed to apply.
      In my view, reduction of complexity could have as result a society very similar to the middles age societies described by Marco Polo in ‘Il Milione’ or by Ibn Battuta in ‘Travels’, where we still see some institutions. trade and some invention that we can still use.
      Except the case if ‘they’ drop atomic bombs, other bioweapons or chemical tricks… that will be another scenario.

    • Ed says:

      I have no serious prep plans. I have no grand kids to fight for and not prospects of any. I am old enough 64. What happens happens. I see no option to form a movement too locked down, surveilled, policed. Going to enjoy going to music shows. Morgan James in April, Ana Popovic in May. 🙂

      • Dennis L. says:

        Ed,

        If I have no great grandchildren then all my efforts and personal sacrifices shall have been in vain; it would be terribly depressing to me.

        My greatest fear from Covid is not myself, but my grandchildren and what may have happened to them.

        From a biological perspective, better to have many children, one of them will be a winner. Nature is very into distributions, the individual not so much so. If only one or two of my grand parents children had children, the uncles/aunts step in to make sure that one goes forward; some of their genes make it into the fabric of the universe.

        My father’s comment on my only daughter, “She’s all we’ve got.” He was a wise man.

        Dennis L.

    • Jan says:

      Thanks a lot for the personal anwers! It helps me a lot! I begin to understand the problem.

      As a child, I have seen a lot about biological gardening, but it was a completely different approach, that I of course took for granted. That’s why I have a deep trust that things work, while others doubt it!

      Modern seeds are developed to work with ferilizers and pesticides and modern sorts. The Granny Smith apple of course can never work in a natural garden. Resilient sorts taste bitter and have hard leaves, to protect against pests and illnesses. Our taste prefers sweet and soft fruits and veggies, so the industry provides them. Old resilient sorts, especially adapted to specific conditions are rare or lost.

      In fact we have not only a soil problem but also a seeds and sorts problem!

      That might be another point to doubt that the assumed plans of ‘the Elders’ can work!

      My mom would say, the cabbage white butterfly does not come, and if it is there, you have done something WRONG! There is probably something out of balance that you have not thought about!

      A biological garden does not mean to transfer our modern plants and proceedures into a ‘bio’ version. It is a completely different concept. It requires observations and tests and discussions about light and shadow and soil and water and “where this kind wants to grow” and exchange and trade of seed. The industry now is selling systems, seeds, knowledge, gardening tools, fertilizers and pest control. Naturally, it only works as a complete system! What I am talking about is, selecting your own seeds, making your own tools from wood, iron and stone, your own fertilizer (compost, manure, composted feces, nettle manure, leguminous vegetables, worms, microorganisms), your own pest control (nettle manure, herbs, tobacco, plants that go good together) and in the end your own method for the spot you are working.

      A natural garden needs seven years to be established and then produces and produces and produces with quite little maintaining work. It is mainly the living soil that does this magic.

      Before the potatoe arrived to Europe people mainly ate cabbage, turnip and barley. Of course it will never be possible to harvest modern food with production methods of the past! There could be other sorts, though, less sweet but perhaps more tasty, that are resilient but never survive any transport into supermarkets. I start to get your point; of course production and consumption, working the land, leading a life and returning all nutrients to the soil they originate from except the energy provided by the sun must go together. We are talking about if survival is possible! Yes, it is, our ancestors did!

      People don’t know about the systems of the past, so they are not sure that they will find them again – or a new solution. It is easy to make a fork from wood, to spin wool, to make leather! It is easy to make ceramics and glass but difficult to make googles and extremly difficult, perhaps impossible after the end of BAU, to make optical glass, suited for microscopes.

      I start to understand, why people prefer their ‘party on steroids’!

      Shouldn’t there be a way to overcome this problem?

      • Harry says:

        Maybe old, regional knowledge still exists somewhere. There are of course old books about old methods, but these are mostly of a general nature or not locally adapted.
        The problem is that so much knowledge has been lost. And with each passing year, more knowledge will be lost. If a secure supply of electricity can no longer be consistently provided, even more will be lost.
        A good investment is certainly appropriate books, if you can find any that are individually useful.

    • Harry says:

      Jan, I agree with you 100%!
      I live in Germany…and it feels like this country becomes more strange to me every year.
      It is really sad.

      Especially I have this feeling of being more and more “constricted”. You just can’t do anything here, you can’t develop in any way.
      Everything is regulated down to the smallest detail, constantly come more bans.
      “Supervised thinking for supervised citizens” is now a common saying among the self-thinkers.

      An old female friend (she has a Russian boyfriend) plans to move to Russia with him in 3 years at the latest, he also has family there. They want to go there in the direction of self-sufficiency. She says, there one is really still largely free, not every spot of land already belongs to someone. Apparently, there is even some support. They want to keep animals, do gardening…her boyfriend knows all this from his childhood and has the appropriate skills. She is currently learning Russian diligently – but it is quite difficult.
      They regularly transfer money to a Russian account, which they set up during their last vacation. Even for this they had to find detours, because this is no longer legally possible either.

      To be honest, I really envy them.
      There is a housing shortage here and everything has become unaffordable.

      Most people here will have to sit out the coming misery (by which I mean above all the politically induced state of derailed mass immigration and economic decline) willy-nilly.
      Many will simply submit…the new green planned economy is becoming more and more apparent. It will be a disaster.

      I just hope for local individuals with a similar mindset to come together when times get really tough.

  42. Mrs S says:

    The UK was supposed to be building a high speed rail link from the North of England to London. It has been delayed due to soaring costs.

    I have always doubted that it would be built.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/mar/09/hs2-costs-soar-as-ministers-prepare-to-deliver-more-bad-news-on-timetable

    • Withnail says:

      Meanwhile China has built 41,000 kilometres of high speed rail. Yet most people in the UK believe China is poor and that both our economy and military are on a par with them.

      • Low speed rail seems to be a much better investment. The price tends to be a lot more affordable. High speed rail represents a high level of complexity that can never be maintained, I expect.

        The ideal low-complexity railroad might be one from 1860.

        • Minority of One says:

          I have mentioned this before , but because E = mcsquared, doubling the speed of trains requires 4 times more energy. The very concept of high-speed trains in a world where energy supplies are falling is nuts. I am confident the UK’s TGV will never finish.

          For the UK’s £100B+ high speed frail link (£100B+ for one short-ish line), it is unfortunate that one of the first things they did was clear fell, some partially, about 100 native woods that were in the way. In England native woods are not exactly common, a few % of the land area.

          • David says:

            *If* HS2 is cancelled maybe some of the woodlands can be reprieved and left to regrow. Deciduous trees re-sprout from the base although it could be 50-75 years before one has full-height trees again.

            A memory to the folly of the early 21st.C …?

            • Minority of One says:

              “*If* HS2 is cancelled maybe some of the woodlands can be reprieved and left to regrow.”

              That would be nice. Except that I think these woods were clearcut then bulldozed. Nonetheless, if left alone they would eventually recover. Knepp has shown what can be done:
              https://knepp.co.uk/

              15 square km of former farm land now wilderness, or as close to wilderness as you can get in the SE of England.

            • Withnail says:

              The woods will recover after the collapse. We’ll cut them all down and burn them first though.

      • Ed says:

        UK is quite delusional about its military might.

    • its stopping several miles north of london—so to catch the hst—you have to use an ordinary train to get to the hst terminus—genuis i call it.

  43. postkey says:

    “The UK can build a reliable, secure and cost-effective electricity system that is decarbonised by 2035, says the government’s advisory Climate Change Committee (CCC).” ?
    https://www.carbonbrief.org/ccc-heres-how-the-uk-can-get-reliable-zero-carbon-electricity-by-2035/?utm_source=cbnewsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_term=2023-03-09&utm_campaign=Daily+Briefing+09+03+2023

    • I am sure the modelers didn’t think through all of the details involved, including funding and where the materials would come from. “Overly simple models” can prove almost anything.

    • Ed says:

      This is part and parcel of the madness of the west. People believe if you say it, it will happen. They have forgotten reality. In the old days they would have had to make a plan and then they could be tracked by how well they achieve their milestones. Now, no plans, no milestones, hence no failure. Insanity.

  44. Student says:

    (Comedonchisciotte + Coveractionmagazine)

    ”Ukraine Hawk Who Heads European Commission Has a Nazi Pedigree She Does Not Want You to Know About”

    Article about Ursula Von der Leyen
    (of course I just report the article)

    https://covertactionmagazine.com/2023/02/17/ukraine-hawk-who-heads-european-commission-has-a-nazi-pedigree-she-does-not-want-you-to-know-about/

    https://comedonchisciotte.org/il-falco-filo-ucraino-a-capo-della-commissione-europea-ha-un-pedigree-nazista-di-cui-vorrebbe-tenervi-alloscuro/

    • She comes from a family that has been involved in politics at a high level before. Perhaps that is the biggest take-away.

      • Student says:

        Yes, I agree. Whether it will be correct or not, it is true that in Europe we have now a sort of comeback of a new aristocracy not directly elected, who have very great powers on people.
        European Commission has been slowing taking additional power every year since its beginning.
        Now we have again dukes, barons and princes.

        • Ed says:

          Hence the need that drove Brexit.

        • moss says:

          Eurocrats with deep sensitivity to Islamic values expose their snouts at Turkish ruins
          idsb.tmgrup.com.tr/ly/uploads/images/2023/02/22/thumbs/840×356/258721.jpg?v=1677051539

    • Ed says:

      “By blitzkrieg…before autumn…we shall be the absolute masters of two continents…a new aristocracy of German masters will be created….[With] slaves assigned to it, these slaves to be their property and to consist of landless, non-German nationals…we actually have in mind a modern form of medieval slavery which we must and will introduce because we urgently need it in order to fulfill our great tasks. These slaves will by no means be denied the blessings of illiteracy; higher education will, in future, be reserved only for the German population of Europe…” – Richard Darré

      Looks like blowing up the Nord Stream pipeline might be a good thing?

      • moss says:

        “we actually have in mind a modern form of medieval slavery” = mortgage suburban serf of landfill economy?

  45. Withnail says:

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/mar/09/north-seas-biggest-energy-producer-says-uk-windfall-tax-wiped-out-surge-in-profit

    UK ‘windfall’ tax on oil companies results in cuts in investment in oil exploration and job losses in the North Sea fields.

    • The oil companies have lots of profits because they are not reinvesting–there is very little to reinvest in. Taxing them will get the companies to close down even more quickly than in the past. They will have no funds left for properly capping unused wells.

      I suppose the theory is that oil prices will rise, and everything will be fine because more oil can be imported from elsewhere. Except the oil supply won’t rise, and the UK won’t be able to afford the oil, regardless of the price.

      • Lastcall says:

        But in the case of the North Sea oilfields isn’t it a catch-22; they can’t afford to close down because of the huge remediation costs?
        I realise the option is to sell the field to a ‘crash test dummy’ company who then goes broke to leave the mess with the taxpayer/environment, but why would you start a new field when that cost is to be faced.

    • Minority of One says:

      Any item that refers to ” results in cuts in investment in oil exploration and job losses in the North Sea fields” is a con. SFA oil has been found offshore UK over the last 20+ years. If you know otherwise , all oil fields offshore UK have a name, please supply oil field names. UK oil production dropped about 70-75% from 1999 until 2014, had a small uptick till about 2021, and is now on a downward trend again. Job losses are coming. I doubt anyone is looking for new oil now, offshore UK, not economically viable.

  46. Fast Eddy says:

    Utopia – ‘what we are doing is better than dying a terrible violent death (due to overpopulation and resource scarcity)’

    Same rationale for UEP. Odd they’d put that into a tee vee series

    • Kowalainen says:

      Here’s a good quiz:

      Q: Do you want children?

      A1: No, we’re fscked as a species
      A2: Yes, I’m feeling lonely
      A3: Yes because it’s normal
      A4: Shit happens

      Two of the answers get a pass and the rest receive UEP’s double injection plus the obligatory five boosters.

      Not that it will make any difference, but the Schad is priceless.
      🤣👍👍

      • Dennis L. says:

        Don’t agree. Children are a way to be part of the fabric of the universe; no children means I am a dead end and the universe totally loses interest. It is not nice to fool with mother nature, wait until father comes home.

        Dennis L.

        • Kowalainen says:

          But you are aware that all species go extinct?

          Your job isn’t to plan ahead with projecting a lineage into the future. Either it happens or it doesn’t happen, that’s all you should concern yourself with. Leave the selective details to Mother Nature.

          Imagine if every dimwit would be hell bent on the same ideas that you fly behind your myopic eyes. I mean; the world would be severely overpopulated.

          Now that I think about it…
          🤔

          Hypers attempting amateur hour ‘eugenics’.
          🤣👍👍

      • Fast Eddy says:

        1. + children are vile little beasts… even worse now that they come equipped with smart phones….then there’s a high chance they end up complete losers…spending their welfare $$$ at the weed shop .. they might end up hooked on Fent… (trust me that’s a one in and out situation — when you need to exit… otherwise it’s a nightmare).

        Remember that flight – with the screeching wild beast in the row in front of you – now imagine that day after day after night after night of that … for years.

        Worst case scenario – you have a daughter and she ends up Out Back the Dumpster like Super Snatch .. with norm… OMG

        Reject children.

        https://youtu.be/rcx-nf3kH_M

        • Dennis L. says:

          FE, that is death, the universe doesn’t seem to work on an individualistic level, more on a distribution. Biology ought not to have been, but here we are, here is life.

          Have no idea what will happen except for some billions of years life on earth has gone on, someone/thing wants it that way.

          It is a different way of looking at things; read Ehrlich as a course requirement, to date he was wrong.

          Not all kids are great, not all are terrible; all seem to be great deal of work until one slows down and then for a while, they are useful. Grandmothers seem to get this very well.

          Dennis L.

          • better, I think to quote Sonnet No. 2, by WS

            “This fair child shall sum my count”

            • Dennis L. says:

              Not very good with literature, so I cheat and use Cliff’s Notes or in this case Google:
              “make your balance sheet add up so as to prove you spent your youth wisely, and justify your existence. This child would prove that he is truly the heir to your beauty, and would make your beauty live again in him”

              Nice,

              Dennis L.

            • Edward de Vere, the 16th Earl of Oxford.

              It is amazing why a bunch of people now still believe the story that a half-literate guy who never learned to spell his own name wrote all these stuff.

            • lol

              i was quoting the verse

              not getting into an OFW fakery saga about who originated what and when

              btw–being an earl of somewhere does not make you a literary genius

              Dylan Thomas was born in a backstreet of Swansea, DH Lawrence was born in a backstreet of Eastwood, (Nottingham)–and many others

              WS was the ultimate storyteller—so must be a fake—now where have we heard that story before?

            • oh–and btw–my name has half a dozen spellings, so by any measure, I can’t spell it either.

              I f you check your history, you’ll find that with almost every name, down the centuries.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            Children are nothing more than impish pillage machines… that will grow into large pillage machines.

            They serve no purpose other than to release carbon… we’re done with that now so time to exterminate humans

    • nikoB says:

      Get over it FE. They laid it out in 2013 in the UK version.
      No one cares – that is the point.
      Just watch and …………………………………..

      • Fast Eddy says:

        US version adds to it… I went to download S2… and there was no S2 of the US version.

  47. Ed says:

    “adopt a 4-year plan to phase out all Chinese imports of essential goods—everything from electronics to steel to pharmaceuticals”

    Trump says we will make all our steel in the US. 😐

    • Ed says:

      Alaska coal here we come. We will make the steel in Alaska.

    • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

      it could be called Operation Warp Speed.

      why Alaska?

      why not in outer space?

      send the pollution to the Sun, and drop the steel where it’s needed.

      win/win.

    • Tim Groves says:

      I think the world is becoming a harsh and cruel place. The United States must steel itself to survive it and not be crushed under with the weak and the infirm.

      • Dennis L. says:

        It has always been thus, ask the fellow who was invited for a beach holiday, the front of the boat opened and a bunch of bullets started coming in the boat; lousy job, French are always a PIA.

        Dennis L.

      • right now—the USA is ‘stealing’ itself in order to survive

    • If the quantity is close to zero, this works!

    • reante says:

      I see Trump’s unveiling of his stupendously ridiculous program of Ten New Cities that China will be paying for with tariffs, etc, as the elites running him off a cliff. It’s hilarious. Like the MAGA crowd wants MORE cities in which city people rule the roost! He’s going to look like a foolish old drunk elitist come this time next year compared to Tulsi’s sober realism. But his fake circus national fascism has already and will drag the Overton window kicking and screaming, in the necessary direction.

      • Ed says:

        Tulsi is not part of the power structure of the dems nor repubs and she is not super rich. How can she win? She is a WEF young leader and so deeply suspect though she sounds good.

        • Hubbs says:

          Like DeSantis, I suspect Tulsi Gabbard is being given some line to run so as to thwart any threat by Trump. Gabbard and DeSantis may seem to oppose the Deep State’s agenda, but the more effective strategy, it seems to me, is that the Globalists are using them to also disrupt and divide the population with this “controlled opposition.” Gabbard and DeSantis are so ambitious that even they are oblivious to how they are being played. DeSantis would have to give up his FL governor’s seat if he decided to run regardless whether he won the Presidency or not, and he may not want to take that chance and winding upwith two losses. Once the Trump threat is gone, I suspect they will marginalize both DeSantis and Gabbard, and try to install a war monger like Nikki Haley or the equivalent. It will be interesting to see also if Tucker Carlson (father was with CIA) suddenly tapers his monlogues of even stays at FOX after the “elections.”

          • reante says:

            Ed, Hubbs, thanks for your thoughts. Then me and Tucker Carlson have something in common don’t we? 🙂 Obviously my Tulsi Call is dependent on, and rationalized by, my larger National Socialisms HTOE non-public Degrowth Agenda Call. Outside of such divination, Tulsi is not a very realistic call, I get that. 🙂 But appearances can be deceiving.

            I was mildly encouraged during our week off when Zerohedge posted an article featuring Sahra Wagenknecht, the German Tulsi Gabbard who is my long-standing call for the German national socialist chancellor and key figure. She spearheaded the very large antiwar protests there the last couple weeks.

            The ball is rolling and the elites are always a step ahead. That’s why they’re the elites right kulm?

          • No one will have the energy to care about any of the people you mentioned above by 2025.

            • reante says:

              Now THAT’S fast collapse!

              It’s gettin’ doomy up in here today. Did something happen?

    • Dennis L. says:

      Ed,
      The US did move its pollution off shore, no small thing and pollution is part of LTG.

      China has lousy demographics, Ziehan notes it may collapse soon, I am not a great fan of him, but one child is less than replacement and humans only live sixty some years on average, or at least break down at that point.

      The largest problem in the US will be the horrible education system. Something will be done, but I see more and more excluded from a good education, the rich will always do well on the whole.

      Dennis L.

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