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A major reason for the growth in the use of renewable energy is the fact that if a person looks at them narrowly enough–such as by using a model–wind and solar look to be useful. They don’t burn fossil fuels, so it appears that they might be helpful to the environment.
As I analyze the situation, I have reached the conclusion that energy modeling misses important points. I believe that profitability signals are much more important. In this post, I discuss some associated issues.
Overview of this Post
In Sections [1] through [4], I look at some issues that energy modelers in general, including economists, tend to miss when evaluating both fossil fuel energy and renewables, including wind and solar. The major issue in these sections is the connection between high energy prices and the need to increase government debt. To prevent the continued upward spiral of government debt, any replacement for fossil fuels must also be very inexpensive–perhaps as inexpensive as oil was prior to 1970. In fact, the real limit to fossil fuel extraction and to the building of new wind turbines and solar panels may be government debt that becomes unmanageable in an inflationary period.
In Section [5], I try to explain one reason why published Energy Return on Energy Investment (EROEI) indications give an overly favorable impression of the value of adding a huge amount of renewable energy to the electric grid. The basic issue is that the calculations were not set up for this purpose. These models were set up to evaluate the efficiency of generating a small amount of wind or solar energy, without consideration of broader issues. If these broader issues were included, EROEI indications would be much lower (less favorable).
One of the broader issues omitted is the fact that the electrical output of wind turbines and solar panels does not match up well with the timing needs of society, leading to the need for a great deal of energy storage. Another omitted issue is the huge quantity of energy products and other materials required to make a transition to a mostly electrical economy. It is easy to see that both omitted issues would add a huge amount of energy costs and other costs, if a major transition is made. Furthermore, wind and solar have gotten along so far using hidden subsidies from the fossil fuel energy system, including the subsidy of being allowed to go first on the electricity grid. EROEI calculations cannot evaluate the amount of this hidden subsidy.
In Section [6], I point out the true indicator of the feasibility of renewables. If electricity generation using wind and solar energy are truly helpful to the economy, they will generate a great deal of taxable income. They will not require the subsidy of going first, or any other subsidy. This does not describe today’s wind or solar.
In Section [7] and [8], I explain some of the reasons why EROEI calculations for wind and solar tend to be misleadingly favorable, even apart from broader issues.
Economic Issues that Energy Modelers Tend to Miss
[1] The economy is very short of oil that is inexpensive-to-extract. The economy seems to require a great deal more government debt when energy prices are high. Models for renewable energy production need to consider this issue, even if any substitution for oil is very indirect.
I think of the problem of rising energy prices for an economy as being like a citizen faced with an increase in food costs. The citizen will attempt to balance his budget by adding more debt, at least until his credit cards get maxed out. This is why we should expect to see an increase in government debt when oil prices are high; oil and other fossil fuels are as essential to the economy as food is to humans.
Figure 1 shows that most US government funding shortfalls occurred when oil prices were above $20 per barrel, in inflation-adjusted prices. For the 15-year period 2008 through 2022, US government expenditures were 26% higher than its receipts.
Figure 2 shows a reference chart of average annual oil prices, adjusted for inflation.
Figure 2. Average annual inflation-adjusted Brent oil prices based on data from BP’s 2022 Statistical Review of World Energy.
The reason why oil prices tend to be high now is because the inexpensive-to-extract oil has mostly been extracted. What is left is oil that is expensive to extract. The low prices in the years surrounding 1998 reflected a supply-demand mismatch after the Asian Economic Crisis of 1997. The crisis held down demand at the same time as production was ramping up in Iraq, Venezuela, Canada, and Mexico.
[2] Economists tend to assume that shortages of oil will lead to much higher fossil fuel prices, thereby making renewables inexpensive in comparison. One reason this doesn’t happen is related to the buildup of debt, noted in Figure 1, when oil prices are high.
Section [1] shows that high oil prices seem to be associated with government deficits. A high-priced substitute for oil would almost certainly have a similar problem. This governmental debt tends to build up, and at some point becomes almost unmanageable.
A major problem occurs when there is a round of inflation. Central banks find a need to increase interest rates, partly to keep lenders interested in lending in an inflationary economy and partly to try to slow the inflation rate. In fact, the US is currently being tested by such a debt buildup and increase in interest rates, beginning about January 2022 (Figure 3).
Higher interest rates tend to have the effect of slowing the economy. In part, the economy slows because the cost of borrowing money rises. As a result, businesses are less likely to expand, and would-be auto owners are likely to put off new purchases because of the higher monthly payments. Commercial real estate can also be adversely affected by rising interest rates if owners of buildings find it impossible to raise rents fast enough to keep up with higher interest rates on mortgages and higher costs of other kinds.
[3] It is uncertain in exactly which ways the economy might contract, in response to higher interest rates. Some ways the economy could contract would bring an early end to both the extraction of fossil fuels and the manufacturing of renewables. This is not reflected in models.
If the economy contracts, one possible result is a recession with lower oil prices. This clearly doesn’t fix the problem of the cost of wind and solar electricity being unacceptably high, especially when the cost of all the batteries and additional transmission lines is included. In some sense, the price needs to be equivalent to a $20 per barrel oil price, or lower, to stop the huge upward debt spiral.
Another possibility, rather than the US economy as a whole contracting, is that the US government will disproportionately contract; perhaps it will send many programs back to the states. In such a scenario, there is likely to be less, rather than more, funding for renewables. I understand that Republicans in Texas are already unhappy with the high level of wind and solar generation being used there.
A third possibility is hyperinflation, as the government tries to add more money to keep the overall system, especially banks and pension plans, from failing. Even with hyperinflation, there is no particular benefit to renewables.
A fourth possibility is disruption of trade relationships between the US and other countries. This could even be related to a new world war. Renewables depend upon worldwide supply lines, just as today’s fossil fuels do. Building and maintaining the electrical grid also requires worldwide supply lines. As these supply lines break, all parts of the system will be difficult to maintain; replacement infrastructure after storms will become problematic. Renewables may not last any longer than fossil fuels.
[4] Economists tend to miss the fact that oil prices, and energy prices in general, need to be both high enough for the producer to make a profit and low enough for consumers to afford finished goods made with the energy products. This two-way tug-of-war tends to keep oil prices lower than most economists would expect, and indirectly caps the total amount of oil that can be extracted.
Figure [2] shows that, on an annual average basis, inflation-adjusted Brent oil prices have only exceeded $120 per barrel during the years 2011, 2012 and 2013. On an annual basis, oil prices have not exceeded that level since then. For a while, forecasts of oil prices as high as $300 per barrel in 2014 US dollars were being shown as an outside possibility (Figure 4).
With close to another decade of experience, it has become clear that high oil prices don’t “stick” very well. The economy then slides into recession, or some other adverse event takes place, bringing oil prices back down again. The relatively low maximum to fossil fuel prices tends to lead to a much earlier end to fossil fuel extraction than most analyses of available resource amounts would suggest.
OPEC+ tends to reduce supply because they find prices too low. US drillers of oil from shale formations (tight oil in Figure 4) have been reducing the number of drilling rigs because oil prices are not high enough to justify more investment. Politicians know that voters dislike inflation, so they take actions to hold down fossil fuel prices. All these approaches tend to keep oil prices low, and indirectly put a cap on output.
Why Indications from EROEI Analyses Don’t Work for Electrification of the Economy
[5] Energy Return on Energy Invested (EROEI) analyses were not designed to analyze the situation of a massive scaling up of wind and solar, as some people are now considering. If utilized for this purpose, they provide a far too optimistic an outlook for renewables.
The EROEI calculation compares the energy output of a system to the energy input of the system. A high ratio is good; a low ratio tends to be a problem. As I noted in the introduction, published EROEIs of wind and solar are prepared as if they are to be only a very small part of electricity generation. It is assumed that other types of generation can essentially provide free balancing services for wind and solar, even though doing so will adversely affect their own profitability.
A recent review paper by Murphy et al. seems to indicate that wind and solar have favorable EROEIs compared to those of coal and natural gas, at point of use. I don’t think that these favorable EROEIs really mean very much when it comes to the feasibility of scaling up renewables, for several reasons:
[a] The pricing scheme generally used for wind and solar electricity tends to drive out other forms of electrical generation. In most places where wind and solar are utilized, the output of wind and solar is given priority on the grid, distorting the wholesale prices paid to other providers. When high amounts of wind or solar are available, wind and solar generation are paid the normal wholesale electricity price for electricity, while other electricity providers are given very low or negative wholesale prices. These low prices force other providers to reduce production, making it difficult for them to earn an adequate return on their investments.
This approach is unfair to other electricity providers. It is especially unfair to nuclear because most of its costs are fixed. Furthermore, most plants cannot easily ramp electricity production up and down. A recently opened nuclear plant in Finland (which was 14 years behind plan in opening) is already experiencing problems with negative wholesale electricity rates, and because of this, is reducing its electricity production.
Historical data shows that the combined contribution of wind, solar, and nuclear doesn’t necessarily increase the way that a person might expect if wind and solar are truly adding to electricity production. In Europe, especially, the availability of wind and solar seems to be being used as an excuse to close nuclear power plants. With the pricing scheme utilized, plants generating nuclear energy tend to lose money, encouraging the owners of plants to close them.
The US has been providing subsidies to its nuclear plants to prevent their closing. When one form of electricity gets a subsidy, even the subsidy of going first, other forms of electricity seem to need a subsidy to compete.
[b] Small share of energy supply. Based on Figure 5, the total of wind, solar, and nuclear electricity only provides about 6.1% of the world’s total energy supply. An IEA graph of world energy consumption (Figure 6) doesn’t even show wind and solar electricity separately. Instead, they are part of the thin orange “Other” line at the top of the chart; nuclear is the dark green line above Natural Gas.
Given the tiny share of wind and solar today, ramping them up, or those fuels plus a few others, to replace all other energy supplies seems like it would be an amazingly large stretch. If the economy is, in fact, much like a human in that it cannot substantially reduce energy consumption without collapsing, drastically reducing the quantity of energy consumed by the world economy is not an option if we expect to have an economy remotely like today’s economy.
[c] Farming today requires the use of oil. Transforming farming to an electrical operation would be a huge undertaking. Today’s farm machinery is mostly powered by diesel. Food is transported to market in oil-powered trucks, boats, and airplanes. Herbicides and pesticides used in farming are oil-based products. There is no easy way of converting the energy system used for food production and distribution from oil to electricity.
At a minimum, the entire food production system would need to be modeled. What inventions would be needed to make such a change possible? What materials would be required for the transformation? Where would all these materials come from? How much debt would be required to fund this transformation?
The only thing that the EROEI calculation could claim is that if such a system could be put in place, the amount of fossil fuels used to operate the system might be low. The overwhelming complexity of the necessary transformation has not been modeled, so its energy cost is omitted from the EROEI calculation. This is one way that calculated EROEIs are misleadingly optimistic.
[d] EROEI calculations do not include any energy usage related to the storage of electricity until it is needed. Solar energy is most available during the summer. Thus, the most closely matched use of solar electricity is to power air conditioners during summer. Even in this application, several hours’ worth of battery storage are needed to make the system work properly because air conditioners continue to operate after the sun sets. Also, people who come home from work need to cook dinner for their families, and this takes electricity. Energy costs related to electricity storage are not reflected in the EROEIs shown in published summaries such as those of the Murphy analysis.
A much more important need than air conditioning is the need for heat energy in winter to heat homes and offices. Neither wind nor solar can be counted upon to provide electricity when it is cold outside. One workaround would be to greatly overbuild the system, so that there would be a better chance of the renewable source producing enough electricity when it is needed. Adding several days of storage through batteries would be helpful too. An alternate approach would be to store excess electricity indirectly, by using it to produce a liquid such as hydrogen or methanol. Again, all of this becomes complex. It needs to be tried on small scale, and the real cost of the full system determined.
Both the need to overbuild the system and the need to provide storage are excluded from EROEI calculations. These are yet other ways that EROEI calculations provide an overly optimistic view of the value of wind and solar.
[e] Long distance travel. We use oil products for long distance transport by ship, air, truck, and train. If changes are to be made to use electricity or some sort of “green fuels,” this is another area where the entire change would need to be mapped out for feasibility, including the inventions needed, the materials required, and the debt this change would entail. What timeframe would be required? Would there be any possibility of achieving the transformation by 2050? I doubt it.
The conversion of all transportation to green energy is very much like the needed conversion of the food system from oil to electricity, discussed in [5c], above. Huge complexity is involved, but the energy cost of this added complexity has been excluded from EROEI calculations. This further adds to the misleading nature of EROEI indications for renewables.
[f] A dual system is probably needed. Even if it makes sense to ramp up wind and solar, there still will be a need for many products that are today made with fossil fuels. Fossil fuels are used in paving roads and for making lubrication for machines. Herbicides, insecticides, and pharmaceutical products are often made from fossil fuels. Natural gas is often used to make ammonia fertilizer. Fabrics and building materials are often made using fossil fuels.
Thus, it is almost certain that a dual system would be needed, encompassing both fossil fuels and electricity. There are likely to be inefficiencies in such a dual system. If intermittent renewables such as wind and solar are to be a major part of the economy, this inefficiency needs to be part of any model and needs to be reflected in EROEI calculations.
[g] “Renewable” devices are not themselves recyclable. Instead, they present a waste disposal problem. Solar panels especially present a toxic waste problem. Without much recycling, there is a long term need for minerals of many types to be extracted and transported around the world. These issues are not considered in modeling.
Profitability of Unsubsidized Renewables Is the Best Measure
[6] If renewables are to be truly useful to the system, they need to be so profitable that their profits can be taxed at a high rate. Furthermore, sufficient funds should be left over for reinvestment. The fact that this is not happening is a sign that renewables are not truly helpful to the economy.
Some people talk about the need for “surplus energy” from energy sources to power an economy. I connect this surplus energy with the ability of any energy source to generate income that can be taxed at a fairly high rate. In fact, I gave a talk to the International Society for Biophysical Economics on September 7, 2021, called, To Be Sustainable, Green Energy Must Generate Adequate Taxable Revenue.
The need for surplus energy that can be transferred to the government is closely connected with the debt problem that occurs when oil prices are higher than about $20 per barrel that I noted in Section [1] of this post. Renewable energy must be truly inexpensive, with all storage included, to be helpful to the economy. It must be affordable to citizens, without subsidies. The cost structure must be such that the renewable energy generates so much profit that it can pay high taxes. It is unfortunately clear that today’s renewables are too expensive for the US economy.
EROEI Models Can’t Tell Us as Much as We Would Like
[7] In the real economy, the economy builds up in small pieces, as new approaches prove to be profitable and as all the necessary components prove to be available. EROEI models shortcut this process, but they can easily be misleading.
The concept of Energy Return on Energy Invested has been used for many years in the field of biology. For example, we can compare the energy a fish gets from the food it eats to the energy the fish expends swimming to procure that food. The fish needs to get sufficient energy value from the food it eats to be able to cover the energy expended on the swim, plus a margin for other bodily functions, including reproduction.
Professor Charles Hall (and perhaps others) adapted this concept for use in comparing different energy “extraction” (broadly defined) techniques. More recent researchers have tried to extend the calculation to include energy costs of delivery to the user.
The adaptation of the biological concept of EROEI to the various processes associated with energy extraction works in some respects but not in others. The adaptation clearly works as a tool for teaching diminishing returns. It gives reasonable information for comparing oil wells to each other, or solar panels to other solar panels. But I don’t think that EROEI comparisons across energy types works well at all.
One issue is that there are huge differences in the selling prices of different types of energy. These are ignored in EROEI calculations, making it look feasible to use a high-priced type of energy (such as oil) to produce a low-valued type of output (intermittent electricity from wind turbines or solar panels). If profitability calculations were made instead, without mandates or subsidies (including the subsidy of going first), the extent to which there is a favorable return would become clear.
Another issue is that intermittency of wind and solar adds huge costs to the system, but these are ignored in EROEI calculations. (The situation is somewhat like having workers drop in and leave according to their own schedules, rather than working during the schedule the employer prefers.) In EROEI calculations, the assumption usually made is that the fossil fuel system will provide free balancing services by operating their electricity generation systems in an inefficient manner. In fact, this is the assumption made in the Murphy paper cited previously.
An analysis by Graham Palmer gives some insight regarding the high energy cost of adding battery backup (Figure 7).
In Figure 7, Palmer shows the pattern of energy investment and energy payback for a particular off-grid home in Australia which uses solar panels and battery backup. His zig-zag chart reflects two offsetting impacts:
(a) Energy investment was required at the beginning, both for the solar panels and for the first set of batteries. The solar panels in this analysis last for 30 years, but the batteries only last for 7.5 years. As a result, it is necessary to invest in new batteries, three additional times over the period.
(b) Solar panels only gradually make their payback.
Palmer finds that the system would be in a state of energy deficit (considering only energy out versus energy in) for 20 years. At the end of 30 years, the combined system would return only 1.3 times as much energy as the energy invested in the system. This is an incredibly poor payback! EROEI enthusiasts usually look for a payback of 10 or more. The solar panels in the analysis were close to this target level, at 9.4. But the energy required for the battery backup brought the EROEI down to 1.3.
Palmer’s analysis points out another difficulty with wind and solar: The energy payback is terribly slow. If we burn fossil fuels, the economy gets a payback immediately. If we manufacture wind turbines or solar panels, there is a far longer period of something that might be called, “energy indebtedness.” EROEI calculations conveniently ignore interest charges, again making the situation look better than it really is. The buildup in debt is also ignored.
Thus, even without the issue of scaling up renewables if we are to make a transition to energy system more focused on electricity, EROEI calculations are set up in a way that make intermittent renewable energy look far more feasible than it really is. “Energy Payback Period” is another similar metric, with similar biases.
The fact that these metrics are misleading is difficult to see. Very inexpensive fossil fuels pay back their cost many times over, in terms of societal gain, virtually immediately. Wind turbines and solar panels depend upon the generosity of the fossil fuel system to get any payback at all because intermittent electricity cannot support an economy like today’s economy. Even then, the payback is only available over a period of years.
I am afraid that the only real way of analyzing the feasibility of scaling up electricity using wind and solar is by looking at whether they can be extraordinarily profitable, without subsidies. If so, they can be highly taxed and end our government debt problem. The fact that wind and solar require subsidies and mandates, year after year, should make it clear that they aren’t solutions.
Steel…
https://wolfstreet.com/2023/06/08/global-steel-production-in-2022-fell-the-most-since-2009-unwound-entire-stimulus-spike-of-2021-chinas-production-fell-for-2nd-year/
https://wolfstreet.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/World-steel-production-2023-06-08-total.png
I like this post about steel. There are several nice charts.
One chart shows that China had a real problem with steel production in the 2014-2015-2016 period. Its coal production was flat then, too. That was the time period when oil prices dropped, causing problems for oil producers around the world. China’s coal prices were low in that period, as well. With low coal prices, producers had no motivation to add more productive capacity for coal. Without growing coal supply, steel supply stayed flat.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12174521/Julian-Assange-loses-appeal-against-extradition-espionage-charges.html
Julian Assange loses his appeal against extradition.
Excellent – he should be jailed forever with Tommy – right norm?
Tommy opposes this https://twitter.com/ScoopUrban/status/1666776702695927810
norm hates Tommy
i have an aversion to visiting jailbirds
you eddy—have no such inhibitions
PR Team wants this … chaos games https://t.me/TommyRobinsonNews/48519
Teach kids to kill No Vaxxers https://t.me/TommyRobinsonNews/48522
https://t.me/TommyRobinsonNews/48536 https://t.me/TommyRobinsonNews/48540 I would not be surprised to find out that the PR Team organized the fires… and that the women in the video works for the PR Team … in fact I am sure she does… would someone actually bother to do that without getting paid?
oops
either Tommy has gone over the wall again—or out on parole
or
its visiting day and eddy is getting his top-up of intellectual snippets passed across the table while the warder isn’t looking.
What’s Tommy’s release date eddy?
will you be meeting him outside the gate?
How would a post-scarcity, post-Singularity Type I Civ (Sagan’s definition, not Kardashev’s which came out before the oil crises of the 1970s) look like?
a bleak, all drab landscape, with hardly anything living and only the occasional spacecraft carrying supplies from Mars, the moons of Jupiter (Jupiter is a ball of gas) etc , processed by all machines and humanoids.
Androids, if any, will have their reproductive organs removed, like the woman in Ghost in the Shell who only kept some of her nerve systems. There is no need to reproduce organically.
The whole Tranny crap might be preparing humans for that step. Those who transitioned will not reproduce anyways so they will have no trouble installing whatever today’s winners choose to put into them.
We don’t give a crap about how an ant, a butterfly or a chicken might feel. Post-singularity, post-scarce beings , who can no longer be called humans, will see humans and humanoids in the same way.
The only ‘feelings’ they will have is whether they have enough energy or not. Like the story of an AI powered drone attacking some guy
https://www.newsweek.com/military-drone-attacks-human-operator-simulation-1803949
(newsweek owned by Jeff Bezos)
if anything interferes with whatever the post-singularity beings want to do, the humanoids will be attacked.
Keith and Dennis L seem to be optimistic that whatever coming after humans, or something which got out of it, get to manage space materials, I don’t see any other scenario from what I just wrote above.
and you actually believe this nonsense kulm?
With some luck we could get there, if the world goes totalitarian and Agenda 2030 was finished by 2020
Just like you believe man has walked on the moon norm … that is epic nonsense
Put Mel in jail too norm?
This was a few months ago. First time I’ve seen it, but wow!
Tim Ballard says Mel Gibson is making 4-part docu-series on the $34 billion global child sex trafficking market, and Tony Robbins is the Executive Producer.
Pay attention to EXACTLY what he says…
At 1:23 Tim says he knows exactly how children are forced into child sex trafficking…
• The aftermath of a HURRICANE
• The aftermath of an EARTHQUAKE
• During & After WARS
What “disasters” have occurred that immediately come to mind?
What wars that have occurred (still happening) come to mind that they never seem to want to end?
For all of these Trafficking Films to be coming out, especially during the times we find ourselves in, there is no doubt in my mind that God is using his children here on earth to bring awareness to the masses regarding crimes against humanity, against children.
#SaveTheChildren 🙏
Here’s the full 19 Video
https://rumble.com/v2sknte-tim-ballard-mel-gibson-to-make-4-part-docu-series-on-global-child-sex-traff.html
eddy
exactly where child se x trafficking fits into this thread, i can’t quite fathom out.
so one can only come to conclusions as to why you feel the need to bring the subject up at every opportunity.
as i’ve pointed out many times. accusations—especially at your obsessive level, are invariably confessions. This is why Gail deletes them all the time.
When’s your next visting day with Tommy?
And Gibson has a catholic-god fixation—nothing involving him would surprise me. Particularly involving priests.
more wishful thinking eddy
ive already replied to you in this context
you seriously need help—
I’m thinking … you are beyond help
How can you admire someone who showers with his daughter norm?
and every word you write is a revelation eddy
on no account stop your outpourings
It is more likely that our descendants will not care about past humans because they are too busy trying to catch a small animal to roast over their open camp fire amongst the ruins of a past civilisation.
More likely, they will sing epic of their ancestors who flew away to the space, leaving the undesirables behind.
Even more likely, after eating the rat captured by hurling a throwing stick and kindling a fire with a hand drill….they will drink some shroom tea and travel 100 million light years without moving a muscle to chat with beings of similar talent around some other star or in some other layer of reality.
you mean that somewhere there will be a parallel OFW/???
plus inmates therein?
Kul,
Thinking about this one: over all thought, we are part of the fabric of the universe, we are not separate from it as an observer. That view from a Westerns standpoint is probably most exemplified by the RCC around the time of Kepler, et. al.
The trick, go with the flow of the fabric, don’t get into a backwater, remember the 80/20 rule.
As always mine space, process in space, use fusion energy, dump trash in Jupiter.
TINA
Dennis L.
Dr. McCullough: “My Clinical Practice Is Completely Full of Patients Who Have Suffered Grave Vaccine Injuries”
“I’ve seen the entire array of vaccine injuries,” lamented Dr. McCullough. “They’re all in the peer-reviewed literature. This is not controversial.”
“A Zogby survey last summer said 15% of people who have taken the vaccine have some new medical problem. And that’s pretty close to the 7.7% [of people] in V-safe,” he continued.
“It’s clear. They [COVID shots] are unsafe products. There’s only one solution — is to pull them off the market. I don’t care how good someone thinks they are, theoretically. We can treat COVID. We can get people through medicines. We don’t need a vaccine. They need to be removed from the market.”
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Lidia, coming home from going out to events it seems there are very few cars on the road. Clif High in Washington state says when he goes to government offices to do business there are very few people. What do you see in Vermont?
I don’t leave my small town much. I wouldn’t say things have changed over the last year, except for the high prices of everything and the fact that the farm stand closed. I’ve seen absolutely normal traffic all year.
We are traveling to Québec province tomorrow for a mini-vacation (husband wants to see a particular concert). Will report back on how that went.
UKR is liable to suffer heavy attrition.
> Ukrainian troops ‘paralysed’ by Russia’s formidable trenches in Zaporizhzhia offensive | Watch
Just like the battle of bulge.
Oooooh… it’s a huge battle… epic! And the music is great too.
Here’s a real battle
https://youtu.be/spq4NRcKSCc
I never really believed Gaddafi died that way. His ‘death’ was probably staged and chances are he lives quietly in his posh apartment in New York or London with an English-sounding name.
No one will recognize him. He’s a real non-descript sort of fellow.
Just FYI, he supposedly didn’t like living indoors, rather favoring tents. When he would come to Italy to visit his pal Berlusca, they would set up many lavish tents for him and his entourage.
Come on tell us how Gaddafi was simply an actor hired by the agency to play the role of enemy of globalism (disguised as an Arab nationalist). You can do it.
> Ukr Offensive, Rus Repels Attacks, Heavy Ukr Losses; Putin MbS Oil Cut, ex NATO Chief: Troops to Ukr
About that clean energy:
https://edireland.substack.com/p/electric-vehicle-boom-may-force-china?utm_source=cross-post&publication_id=929169&post_id=117061200&isFreemail=true&utm_campaign=712558&utm_medium=email
(TRT World)
Confirmation from Turkish media of the Ukranian offensive in the area of the Nuclear Plant which is in danger by the low level of waters due to dam destruction.
Heavy losses on the Ukranian side.
“Thursday, June 8, 2023
Russia has said its forces had repelled large-scale overnight attempts by Ukrainian troops, involving 1,500 soldiers, to break through the frontline in the southern Zaporizhzhia region and had inflicted heavy losses on them.
“Today at 1:30 am (2230 GMT) in the Zaporizhzhia area… there was an attempt to break through our defences,” Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu said.
“The enemy was stopped and retreated after heavy losses,” Shoigu said, adding that the Ukrainian forces had used 150 armoured vehicles in their offensive.
Already this week, Russia has said it has repelled several assaults by Ukrainian forces. Ukrainian officials have said their forces were ready for a long-expected counteroffensive but that there would be no formal announcement when it begins.”
https://www.trtworld.com/europe/live-blog-russia-claims-repelling-ukrainian-offensive-in-zaporizhzhia-13535312
So, this is the Ukrainian offensive, perhaps. Fits in with the analysis that says Ukraine blew up the dam.
Yes, it seems it has started.
Although the offensive might be divided in different attacks, so it may not be the only one.
Financial Times, in the article below, also confirms the use of German tanks in this first counter attack after the defeat of Bakhmut.
Everything can be during this foggy phase, but my impression is that if Ukraine had been surprised by the destruction of the dam, it would have attacked later on, but as the attack is concomitant with the destruction of the dam, it seems to be a plan conceived by the Ukrainians.
In addition, the destruction of the dam creates difficulty for potable water in Crimea and also difficulty for keeping Zaphorizhia nuclear plant in the security frame of cooling it.
(FT)
”Ukraine sends western tanks into battle as counter-offensive gets under way”
https://www.ft.com/content/9b282d67-bb71-45ae-8fc0-d7870a5c9069
https://archive.is/Vkg1Z
In addition, as western MSMedia is not talking at all about this counteroffensive, maybe it is just in order not to ‘connect’ it to the destruction of the dam…
Of course it is just an hypotesis.
The story of Sophie Scholl, whose White Rose Society was one of the few resistance movements during the Third Reich is well known.
But the story of Johann Reichhart, who cut her head, is also somewhat known and I earlier wrote in Reddit that men like him run Civilization.
Reichhart was the last of 9 generation of executioners (a son of his was groomed to succeed that job but committed suicide in 1950 after West Germany abolished the death penalty,, making the younger Reichhart’s skills redundant)
Reichhart was efficient, and had no feelings for the people he was executing. He put a number to the people he executed. He memorized all of these numbers, and only referred them, including Scholl, with the number he assigned.
After World War 2 was over, he was briefly arrested bu the Allies found his skills useful, so he, with the help of a guy from Kansas who got to admire his skills, now executed Nazi criminals, again without any impunity or feelings.
https://thefifthfield.com/wp-content/uploads/Reichharts-Grave.jpg
His gravestone shows that he didn’t die a poor man. He is buried with his father, his son who killed himself for reasons explained above, and an older son who lived to be 85.
When asked, Reichhart said killing people like Scholl (of course referring her with the number he assigned) was just a job, nothing more, nothing less, no emotions, decision or nothing. He just did what he was assigned and he had no remorse or regrets for the people he put to death, and he regretted he could not do it anymore.
Men like him are extinct now but will rise again as resource decline and society rapidly turns right-wing.
if you re opened the camps, they would be fully staffed before the day was out
Did you know the Mongol armies left pyramids of severed heads outside the gates of middle eastern cities who refused to unconditionally surrender to the horde.
My point being is that the willingness to release souls to the ethereal realms is also held by those who think civilization is over rated
i find discussion involving ”souls’ and realty incompatible
sorry cro
no one involved in the scam of real estate transfer has a spiritual body….NPC all the way
rrrrriiiiiggggght cro
good to know that
When men were real men … now all we have are snowflakes and tranny freaks
I should retain Hoolio’s rabbit kills and heap up the skulls
I would like to see a recreation of the Capuchin Crypt replacing human skulls with Hoolio’s collection of rabbit skulls for the next iteration of your extinction conspiracy theory.
You can bury the rabbit heads in the dirt until the insects clean them off. We do this with dead deer we find. We place them along the trail like something out of the movie Predator.
One of our new neighbors has an F-Biden banner across the front of his house. Even though Dad has moved on from Trump we left a campaign sticker wrapped around our driveway gate as a talisman. The township supervisor, a diehard Democrat, stopped by for a visit over Memorial Day so I don’t think the Maga juice is working anymore.
When the die-off begins (and it will begin) I will hack head off of Dead Vaxxers and mount them on pikes Outside the Gate… like Kurtz did
Maintaining civilization is a thankless job who will earn not too many friends.
In the old, cold, dour men (for whatever reason only men did that kind of things), working quietly and deciding the fate of peoples they never saw and never would, decided human future and kept things going.
In my opinion, the arrival of SNS probably ended such men. Everyone is yapping as if everyone on earth is listening to them. Trump, Zelensky, Musk, etc spend more time on SNS than actually doing any real work.
Cold, dour men promoted themselves just enough to get the position, which they tended not to lose since they knew how to not make those who hired them angry and met their bosses’ expectation.
But now such kind of men were replaced by SNS crybabies who never lose a second promoting themselves and doing no meaningful work.
Which means those who actually ran systems, unsung heroes who were hated but still kept trains running, were removed. Some remained but when they got old and retired they were not succeeded, and the result is what we have now.
Russia is no better – all the commissars and nomenclature died or retired, and self-promoters like Prigozhin who puts himself before the Cause abound there too. I don’t see China being any different – when Xi’s generation retires, those who studied in USA in 1990s will take over and make it pro-American, woke and all that.
However, resource depletion and the necessity to distribute the scarcer resources to those who are more worthy will lead to the return of such men, who will never smile, never show emotions, never get angry but destroy you without blinking an eye, inevitable.
kul,
Perhaps this is just the way it works, the 80/20 rule and the 80 cannot make things work but the 20 win because more of their ideas work.
A guess: philosophy is dead, Nietzsche was wrong, had it reversed. Religions are born of experience, a set of rules to make society work, some hope to get man through the tough times. As long as the preachers do 20 per cent correct, the 80 percent they screw up is not sufficient to overcome the societal good. The fabric of the universe smiles on some reverends and gives them a nudge in the right direction.
The fabric of the universe is very messy, but under it all, things seem to work.
Corollary: A wise man goes with the flow but does not lose his soul in so doing.
I have covered resource depletion, it is a local issue, there is plenty of stuff in our solar system and a built in garbage can, go Jupiter; “take out the papers and the trash, yackety yack” said while coasting along.
Dennis L.
To go to jupiter, we need propulsion system much more advanced than what we have now.
We need more resources than whatever the current system can provide. I have been studying this subject for years.
Current democratic system is not sufficient to do what you have suggested. A totalitarian, technocratic system is the only way to accomplish your goal. If you have any other suggestions let me know, but commanding all of the earth’s energy is the only way I can see to get it done.
Technocrats are already in power with the likes of Olaf Scholz and Macaroni and they bravely lead humanity towards its destiny.
at the start of the industrial revolution, (1709) we lived in a totalitarian autocratic system.
then the Industrial revolution itself created the need for workers.
people were making ‘stuff” and competed for those workers
suddenly the workers realised they had economic muscle–so a gradual rise in workers rights began
this led to universal suffrage (eventually), about 100 years ago.
This could only go on as long as worker were in increasing demand
we have now reached the end of that particular line
as the need for workers goes, so will the rights of those workers
which is why we are slipping back into autocracy and fascism
at the start of the industrial revolution, (1709) we lived in a totalitarian autocratic system.
No we didn’t. Leaving aside your arbitrary and unorthodox dating of the Industrial Revolution, the autocratic system the British or indeed other Europeans lived under was not totalitarian.
Under pre-industrial autocracy, political power is concentrated in the hands of a single individual or a small group of elites, such as a monarch or a ruling aristocracy. The basis of their authority was derived from tradition, religion, or military power. Pre-industrial autocracies typically had limited bureaucracy and centralized power, and the ruler or ruling class often had significant personal control over the government and society.
Totalitarianism, on the other hand, is a more modern form of authoritarianism that emerged in the 20th century. It is characterized by a highly centralized government that seeks to control all aspects of society, including the economy, the media, and the personal lives of citizens. Unlike pre-industrial autocracies, totalitarian regimes often have a large and complex bureaucracy, with extensive surveillance and propaganda systems to maintain control.
The term “totalitarianism” was first used by the Italian political philosopher Giovanni Gentile in the 1920s. Gentile was a supporter of Benito Mussolini’s fascist regime in Italy, and he used the term “totalitario” to describe the state’s complete control over all aspects of society.
things varied from nation to nation—obviously, but monarchs ruled in an absolute sense and you could be executed for the most trivial offences.
In the UK in 1700 alone 222 offences carried the death penalty
Most of these were inflicted on the lower orders by a ruling elite. If you were a serf you were owned. And could be disposed of pretty much on a whim. That certainly fits the fascist ideology.
This was autocratic rule by fear of retrubution.
Execution was cheaper that prison
In the late 1700s transportation came in to try to solve the problem.
We can put different names on it—but it was still a fascist level authority. In modern terms, this authoritarianism is helped by modern technolgy–but the end result is the same in general terms
And here I thought that geo magnetic drive engines were already in widespread use amongst the elite breakaway civilization that is lording it over us great unwashed mass of hominiod cattle. Terra to Jupiter inside of 3 days…..are you saying it ain’t so?
would that 3 days include a stopover at mars or not?
If they actually had it, they would be posting this on instagram or at least at snapchat, since they love showing off.
We also need a machine that can shield humans from the Van Allan Belts and the cosmic radiation in space
more important to shield humans fromB S artists
Fortunately we have CGI so we can go anywhere we can imagine
Pat Robertson DEAD!
The great filter FTW!
Pat was generally in favor of vaccines. But he had “terrific concerns” about the COVID shots and about mandates (and by the latter, I don’t mean two men dating)..
just google pat robertson quotes
the man was completely off his trolley
Tom,
“mandates” I like it, clever.
Dennis L.
This is just sooooo juicy that I have to share it.
The article is about the suspicion that Naomi Wolf may be controlled opposition, which is interesting. But this particular nugget of factual information is like a koan. Ponder it and it may lead you to satori:
A PHYSICIAN WHO WAS A LEADING VOICE IN THE COVID PANDEMIC WHERE SHE HAS APPEARED FREQUENTLY AS AN ANALYST ON MSM WHERE SHE TARGETED BLAME ON “ANTI-VAKKERS” COUNTLESS TIMES.
PROBLEMATICALLY FOR MS. WEN SHE WAS ALSO USED AS A CRISIS ACTOR IN A STAGED HOAX EVENT FOR POLICE STATE MEASURES: “THE BOSTON BOMBING” WHERE SHE WAS INTERVIEWED BY CNN.
SHE IS A RHODES SCHOLAR, A MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS, AND A WORLD ECONOMIC FORUM YOUNG GLOBAL LEADER.
SHE IS ALSO CONNECTED WITH THE EUGENICS MOVEMENT AS A PAST PRESIDENT OF PLANNED PARENTHOOD.
Who is this busy lady?
Why, she’s Dr. Leana Wen.
https://artofliberty.substack.com/p/what-is-in-the-pfizer-documents-is
Blue green milk … hahahaha… I am imaging the horror of the MOREONS
The lipid nanoparticles covered in petroleum-based polyethylene glycol enter breast milk and then into nursing babies. The babies get seizures. One nursing baby died from seizures. Four lactating moms had milk that turned blue-green. In addition to the Pfizer documents, the National Institute of Health did a study and found that babies nursing from vaccinated moms had failed to thrive, wouldn’t put on weight and were agitated, restless and sleepless.
This is an interview with the young Dr. Leana Wen a decade ago when she was working as an ER medic in Boston.
Now, you tell me, was this scripted or spontaneous? Also, was it done in the street or against a green screen? Just your impressions. I’m not claiming anything; just airing suspicions.
(Reuters)
”Russia and Ukraine Say Ammonia Pipeline Was Damaged, Putting Grain Deal at Risk.
June 7 (Reuters) – A pipeline used to transport ammonia fertilizer from Russia via Ukraine which may be central to the future of the Black Sea grain deal has been damaged, according to both Kyiv and Moscow, potentially complicating talks around the accord.
Russia’s defense ministry said a “Ukrainian sabotage group” had blown up a section of the pipeline on Monday night near the village of Masyutivka in Kharkiv region. The village is on the frontline between Russian and Ukrainian troops.
“As a result of this terrorist act, there were civilian casualties. They have been provided with necessary medical assistance,” the Russian ministry said in a statement.”
https://gcaptain.com/russia-and-ukraine-say-ammonia-pipeline-was-damaged-putting-grain-deal-at-risk/
Oh dear! Ammonia fertilizer is something we don’t think about. It can be made using either natural gas or coal (China). Probably natural gas in Russia. Less fertilizer sold to Ukraine, less grain for Ukraine.
Gail, this is part of the food war. Remember the grain deal last year, supposedly to feed the poorest countries(98% didn’t end up there). That deal included certain other guarantees, the mentioned pipeline supply being a big part, which was not honoured by the western run side(including the UN).
Russia is not of a mind to extend and this creates problems for the western run regime, as it opens up the possibility of the Russian navy using the deminded corridor to supply and attack other areas(Odesa), although I believe they would have to take a large area to the north, for that to be feasible(I believe they will do both).
Helmer gives better detail.
https://johnhelmer.net/the-food-war-the-grain-deal-and-the-real-deal/
The article makes it sound like there has been a lot of deceit by the NATO group with respect to the combination of the grain and fertilizer deal.
The world economy is in such a bad situation that nothing seems to be as it looks, when first viewed.
Just in time when US wheat production will hit a rock bottom . CA has been cloudy so far, meaning its veggie and rice production will be shitty as well.
Betcha the leader of this was paid by the PR Team https://t.me/leaklive/14574
This is what they want — chaos .. https://t.me/leaklive/14580
(Corriere della Sera)
Anders Fogh Rasmussen, former Nato secretary general, says that some Nato Country could soon deploy troops in Ukraine………..
”Ore 07:48 – Rasmussen: ”Alcuni Paesi Nato potrebbero schierare truppe in Ucraina.”
L’ex segretario generale della Nato, Anders Fogh Rasmussen, ha affermato che un gruppo di paesi dell’Alleanza Atlantica potrebbe prendere azioni individuali e dispiegare truppe in Ucraina se gli Stati membri non garantissero la sicurezza a Kiev durante il vertice della Nato a Vilnius, in Lituania, a luglio. Rasmussen ha citato la Polonia come un paese molto impegnato nel fornire assistenza concreta all’Ucraina e ha ipotizzato la possibilità che la Polonia, seguita dagli Stati baltici, potesse formare una coalizione di paesi disposti ad intervenire militarmente. Le garanzie di sicurezza proposte includerebbero la condivisione di informazioni, l’addestramento congiunto dell’Ucraina, l’interoperabilità con la Nato, un aumento della produzione di munizioni e la fornitura di armi.”
https://www.corriere.it/esteri/diretta-live/23_giugno_08/ucraina-russia-news-guerra-f0f58762-0562-11ee-874a-78fbf24a95c4.shtml
I bet ukraine is short of barrier troops these days. The demands on those biys have been insane lately
The End of Easy Money: Bankruptcy Filings Pile Up at Fastest Rate since 2010
https://wolfstreet.com/2023/06/07/the-end-of-easy-money-bankruptcy-filings-pile-up-at-fastest-rate-since-2010/
What if… this is just the trickle… from the crack in the dam… and they have run out of cement
These paragraphs describe why so many marginal companies are having trouble:
As time goes on, more companies will have problems.
The US government is back in full steam ahead borrowing mode, now that the debt limit has been lifted. I would expect this to raise interest rates and make the situation even worse.
Could the bankruptcy of companies wipe out money faster than the government can print? Money going through the system is similar to entropy, it increases with each passing until nothing is left. Company failure reduces assets to salvage value and cash is extinguished.
Dennis L.
Worse is to good as intelligent is to norm
You are comparing intelligence eddy?
knot me who insists that Sandy Hook was faked by crisis actors
Hahahahahaha
https://rumble.com/v1jpdwl-a-911-conspiracy-theory-explained-in-5-minutes-by-james-corbett-classic.html
Best narration Corbett ever did. Cuts through so much of the official bs, with amusement, in a few short minutes.
He should do the same with GW.
OK… so why do heavy metal beams and concrete — fall sideways?
https://i.postimg.cc/DzsygQ1S/boom.png
https://www.ae911truth.org/evidence/videos/video/10-north-tower-exploding
“Buildings don’t ‘fall’ like that–accelerating through the path of greatest resistance, falling upon their own footprint while leaving very little on the ground except an enormous blanket of pulverized concrete that covered lower Manhattan. Those buildings didn’t collapse. They disintegrated in front of our eyes. They were demolished. The fact that NIST [National Institute for Standards and Technology] did not examine the dust for explosive residues though over a hundred NYC firefighters went on public record saying they saw, heard and felt explosions throughout the buildings prior to their collapse points to a cover up.”
I continued:
“This is stuff we learned in 8.01 [8.01 is freshman level physics at MIT]. How can the top of a building crush the bottom part without getting crushed itself? We are talking about Newton’s third law of motion. If we were told that Al Qaeda loaded the buildings with explosives AND flew planes into them I would shrug my shoulders and walk away. Though it seems preposterous that they would be able to do this, at least it wouldn’t violate laws of motion. They are asking us to believe the impossible with their story.”
They were willing to indulge me a bit further. I pulled this video up on my phone. This is a slow motion video of the North Tower exploding, it is narrated by David Chandler, a physics teacher and member of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth:
https://www.ae911truth.org/evidence/videos/video/10-north-tower-exploding
To me, this is one of the most compelling pieces of evidence available. There are no third parties involved in the procurement of the video. It is uncontested footage of one of the twin towers coming down.
What do you see when you regard the photo below? Is this a building that is collapsing under its own weight? Or is it being blown to smithereens by highly energetic explosives? Yes, your eyes can deceive, but what does it look like? What does your intuition tell you?
https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd0191f8c-7eba-4fd9-b316-dbcf0c761f0b_781x957.png
https://madhavasetty.substack.com/p/i-come-out-to-my-mit-classmates-as
hahahahahahahahahaha
A danish scientist Niels Harrit, on nano-thermite in the WTC dust ( english subtitles )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_tf25lx_3o
Nano-thermite is used by US military as an incendiary weapon.
https://benthamopen.com/contents/pdf/TOCPJ/TOCPJ-2-7.pdf
Nano-thermite, Dr. Harrit explains further, is “produced only in military facilities and big military institutions in the world…. The explosions of the future are based on this technology…. Research is going on, but it’s military research. This is high technology material.”
https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2011/03/07/interview-with-dr-niels-harrit-on-discovery-of-nano-thermite-in-wtc-dust/
Lurker, that is some very old news there. More interesting than even Mr. Harrit is how you came across the news and why you think it is relevant now, here in 2023.
It’s old news to some, but most people including, I believe, Norman still accept the official story that jet fuel and office furniture fires brought down the Twin Towers by melting the steel.
So I for one think Harrit’s work is still relevant in 2023.
when new news is a bit thin—old news gets regurgititated
now that covidrama audience figures are barely enough to pay to keep the lights on in the foyer—you’ll find Kennedy and his grassy knoll coming back into the news.
You’ll know when things are really desperate—when “Pearl Harbour” was all done with holograms, just like WTC was.
And the moon landing too of course
O Norman! You who are the expert on the Industrial Revolution! I beseech thee, please explain to us how jet fuel and office furniture fires melts steel.
Or was that molten steel running down the side of the twin towers done with holograms?
https://www.facebook.com/ae911truth/videos/fountain-of-molten-iron/734446674192720/
give it a rest tim—get back on the covid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzF1KySHmUA
I am certain that even if the US govt decided to come clean and announce they faked the moon landings and blew up the towers… norm would be unable to compute
He would not admit to being played — he would still firmly believe whatever nonsense he believes…
Oh – and he’d keep boosting even fawchi said the shots were deadly
The WTC buildings were pulverized, they did not weaken, melt and collapse in an uncontrolled way.
They fell on their footprint.
This is all prompted by an MIT grad, whose recent substack post is linked above, complaining about how most of his old school buddies were hornswoggled not only by the plandemic, but by 9/11.
A top physics journal reached the same conclusion … can’t be bothered to find the reference
I do find it interesting how much of the building was turned into dust. Also how desperate the government was to ship the remaining metal debris to China as fast as possible.
I went to the site shortly after the attack. It was surrounded by police. We were held far enough away that we could not take any pictures.
don’t tell me you’ve run out of viruses eddy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awhBvGSauMY
E-girls luring young boys into joining US army. Beyond words.
Sexy woman with lots of Instagram and TicTock followers is being used to lure young men into the military.
There might not be such a problem, if covid vaccines hadn’t been used to decrease interest in the military, and to drive away previous recruits.
Are we really meant to take seriously, the concept of E Girls luring men into joining the army??
To me that sounds even too wacky for the outer fringes of OFW inmates to dream up
Norman, sweetie, we’re not ‘the outer fringes’: we are The Core!
YOU, my darling, are the lunatic fringe.
lol xabier
as i’ve pointed out before
your affectations of sweetie and darling are so ‘sixties”
would they never accept you in “Footlights”—so you constantly have to pretend otherwise?
btw–the core is always the bit that’s thrown away.
still—the dropped book of your life always falls open at a new (blank) page.
I do wish there was something different to read there though.—not that constant faux intellect of affectation.
Not sure why it’s so unbelievable to you. It’s only been happening since Helen of Troy…
you lost me there frank
Yes, the new forms of culture industry are operationally integrated with the state just as the old ones were. Don’t see why that is so hard to believe. Did you even see the video?
I come out to my MIT classmates as a “Conspiracy Theorist”
I decided to drop some truth-bombs at my college reunion last week. Here’s what happened…
https://madhavasetty.substack.com/p/i-come-out-to-my-mit-classmates-as
Thar She Blows!
34,980 Excess Deaths in 2023 (and climbing); 63,825 Excess Deaths in 2022; 14,163 Excess Deaths in 2019; means projected over 80,000 excess deaths for entire 2023, at least!
https://palexander.substack.com/p/dr-peter-mccullough-and-david-dickson
Who cares so long as it’s not you – right norm hahahahahaahahahahahaha
They rebranded the flu hahahahaha
https://palexander.substack.com/p/dr-michael-yeadon-my-plea-to-dr-robert
Yeadon hits this one out of the stadium!
More people dying that during WW2 hahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaha
The article continues:
Statistics Canada last week published what are called “provisional” mortality counts for New Brunswick, which estimated 9,288 people died in the province through 2022.
If confirmed, the number will be a record for the province, obliterating the previous high set in 2021 by a stunning 1,179 deaths.
New Brunswick has never experienced an increase in death counts anywhere near that size in a single year. Prior to the pandemic, the closest was a war time increase of 510 in 1945.
COVID-19 is known to be directly responsible for about a third of the 2022 increase. Officially, New Brunswick recorded 580 COVID deaths that year [2022] which was 421 more than in 2021.
New Brunswick’s Department of Health is aware of the record 2022 death estimate but it has no theories about a cause — and isn’t prepared to draw any broad conclusions about what it means.
https://live2fightanotherday.substack.com/p/covid-jab-related-strokes-and-heart
There is no need for concern,……95% of Canadians are not human….they are just NPCs filling in the spaces for the actual gamers.
COVID-[Jab]-related Strokes and Heart Attacks in New Brunswick
Except, no one wants to see the elephant in the room.
https://live2fightanotherday.substack.com/p/covid-jab-related-strokes-and-heart
I love the elephant in the room hahaha — I’ll feed him some apples
It’s about Mass d
Following a parent protest at a North Hollywood elementary school against an endlessly metastasizing LGBT curriculum (and a similar protest in suburban Glendale), the Los Angeles Unified School District has called down to the engine room for flank speed, and read this carefully:
The resolution introduced by board President Jackie Goldberg and member Nick Melvoin served as the board’s official recognition of June as LGBTQ+ Pride Month — while also honoring October as LGBTQ+ History Month; Oct. 11 as National Coming Out Day; Nov. 20 as Transgender Day of Remembrance; March 31 as Transgender Day of Visibility; and April 12 as a Day of Silence honoring the “contribution of the LGBTQ+ community.”
All your base are belong to us. LGBT curriculum only fills days ending in -y, expanding like the first phase of a fuel-air explosive. It displaces; it shoves aside.
https://chrisbray.substack.com/p/poles-and-holes-discourse-of-cosmopolitans
The best source on the dam bombing .
https://bigserge.substack.com/p/russo-ukrainian-war-dam?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1068853&post_id=126666630&isFreemail=true&utm_medium=email
A source perhaps. Its a war crime bombing dams, and this article is missing a few damning points which make it pretty easy to figure out who the culprit most likely is.
I provided the coordinates for the other dams… when do they get blowed up
Check this out
https://youtu.be/THQbBrXaAfU
Lots of dam failures have taken place. I would be willing to bet there will be lots more in the future. Materials weaken with age. Maintenance depends upon fossil fuels.
Notice how the entire towns are washed away .. over 1000 killed
John Titus strikes again
“Millions of people in the West realise that they are being led to a spiritual disaster. Frankly, the elite appear to have gone crazy, and it looks like there is no cure for that.” the evil Vlad
OK, concerned, I admit, but still burning incense that our own pollies discover in their residual brains some smear of proto-rationality while
Iranian officials “cautioned that arming Moscow or Kyiv will prolong the conflict between the two neighbors.”
farsnews.ir/en/news/14020311000331/Iran-Cains-Ukraine-f-Heavy-Price-ver-Zelensky-Aid’s-Hsile-Cmmens
State of the present attitude of the elite to this point
idsb.tmgrup.com.tr/ly/uploads/images/2023/05/30/thumbs/840×356/275603.jpg?v=1685459672
One cannot resist wondering what was just said between her puffed up lacquey and the now former FM of Türkiye … pull the plug on the Lira? A few days later Türkiye’s top intelligence chief Fidan now sits upon his seat and the lira continues a relentless post-election slide
meanwhile at the UN the Chinese representative presents China view for peace talks underneath the article on which in the official Chinese govt media website appears this image
globaltimes.cn/Portals/0/attachment/2023/2023-02-21/30596843-72db-4e5f-8908-b92ad4aba315.jpeg
What an exciting adventure!!!
As he slept in the early morning hours of March 10, 2021, the heart of a South Carolina man suddenly stopped. Just like that. It had been fourteen hours since his first covid-19 vaccine.
John Berndsen, 64, might have died then but for a cardiac defibrillator, implanted in his chest eighteen years prior, that jumpstarted his heart. The device had not gone off in ten years—and then only to signal anomalies that led to changes in medication.
Until that fateful Pfizer shot, Berndsen was healthy and fit, according to his primary care physician and medical records. He did not smoke and drank minimally; he ate well and exercised, an outgrowth of his long-ago—“life-changing,” he said—brush with mortality. In 2020, he racked up the course record of 174 golf rounds, always walking and routinely carrying his clubs. He went to the gym and did yoga. He was professionally active as a consultant for corporate mergers and acquisitions.
That all changed in March of 2021.
Berndsen’s medical saga would include urgent surgeries, blood clots, one code blue, a “white light” moment, a stroke, an aortic aneurysm, sepsis, and—the ultimate—a transplanted heart for the one that gave out. His insurance company would pay $3.36 million for that precious new organ, statements show, not including hospitalizations before and outpatient care after the transplant.
Dr. Peter McCullough, a widely published cardiologist and expert in covid-19 vaccine safety, has studied Berndsen’s records and seen him as a patient. The misery that Berndsen and his family endured, the months of hospitalization and rehab, and the enormous financial cost all lead back to one thing, McCullough strongly believes.
https://rescue.substack.com/p/a-pfizer-shot-a-failed-heart-a-transplant
Whilst stillbirths are fortunately rare events in Scotland, the latest data for April 2023 shows a spike with a 113% increase from last month.
https://nakedemperor.substack.com/p/stillbirths-spike-in-scotland/
So what… the MORE-ONS won’t notice this … maybe a 20x increase would be noticed? But even then maybe not – how many people do you know who are giving birth this month? I know none.. so if they all lost their babies — that would = none.
Let’s move on to something more interesting:
Fast Eddy
just now
Meanwhile.. with respect to the Big Picture….
The Bank of Canada Un-Pauses, Hikes 25 Basis Points, Second Central Bank to Un-Pause on Resurging Inflation Fears
More rate hikes are on the table.
https://wolfstreet.com/2023/06/07/the-bank-of-canada-un-pauses-hikes-25-basis-points-second-central-bank-to-un-pause-on-resurging-inflation-fears/
This is a very dangerous situation … normally a big increase in interest rates would tame inflation … but this time is different … they keep jacking rates up … but it is not stopping inflation …
That’s because we burned up most of the remaining cheap energy … and what’s left costs more to produce… and therefore everything we purchase is increasing in price…
This will only get worse because the remaining cheap energy — conventional reserves – is depleting every single minute (we burn nearly 100 million barrels per day – bravo!!!) — so that the much more costly shale, deep sea and tar sands oil is making up a greater share of the burn….
The vice is tightening a little every single day. Eventually our eyeballs will pop out and our skulls will be crushed.
Fortunately the men who run the world are monitoring this … and before the situation gets to the point where total collapse of the global economy is imminent…. they will act… they will exterminate us.
Ya that sucks … but it would suck a whole lot worse if 8 billion flood onto the dark cold streets — hungry and very pissed off… no cops… no food … no petrol… no electricity….
We don’t want that… that would be a horrifying outcome
>> Whilst stillbirths are fortunately rare events in Scotland, the latest data for April 2023 shows a spike with a 113% increase from last month.
We have to go back to – *gasp* – July 2020 to get a reading this high! A 10-sigma event! Oh wait, no, a typical data point in a noisy series…
Eddy, please find something more frightening. This isn’t it. Maybe something about the UFO fakery.
It’s not frightening at all… I want bigger numbers.
For those looking forward to the completion of UEP and the end of the vile species…
I give you a big shot of dopamine… for those who have never snorted a bit fat line of high grade cocahain… you’ll know what that feels like … right… NOW!
The Bank of Canada Un-Pauses, Hikes 25 Basis Points, Second Central Bank to Un-Pause on Resurging Inflation Fears
More rate hikes are on the table. “Overall, excess demand in the economy looks to be more persistent than anticipated.”
https://wolfstreet.com/2023/06/07/the-bank-of-canada-un-pauses-hikes-25-basis-points-second-central-bank-to-un-pause-on-resurging-inflation-fears/
yawn.
BoC raises 0.25 that’s all you got?
What I got is … no matter what they do with the interest rates… inflation will continue to rise .. until we get the much anticipated deflationary implosion — that comes when the mob can no longer afford anything but salted rice… producers cannot produce at a profitable price…
And the steaming heap of shit … tips into your lap.
https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/p/in-memory-of-those-who-died-suddenly-6db/
Another nice list… but I have to say…. this is not good enough.
There are still at least a dozen people that I can think of … who severely disrespected me when they found out I was not going to inject the Rat Juice — who are still walking around seemingly fine even after multiple boosters.
We have a long way to go with this kill shot … until I can say my desire for revenge has been sated.
This is excellent
4 Singapore Airlines pilots die suddenly May 2023
Capt Wee Loong: died May 11, 2023 (sudden death)
Capt Fernando Cid: died May 24, 2023 (cancer)
Capt Tan Joo Huat Colin: died May 25, 2023 (sudden)
Capt Sebestian Tan Aik Chuang: died May 26, 2023 (cancer)
Singapore Airlines COVID-19 vaccination policy history:
Jan.2021 – Singapore Airlines hopes to be the world’s first fully-vaccinated airline.
https://palexander.substack.com/p/4-singapore-airlines-pilots-die-suddenly
7) Please Help Heather
Source: gofundme.com
I don’t have any idea what’s going on here. Massive health problems and we’re not given any clear diagnosis. The source for this story is the Gofundme set up to fund the medical bills. This woman is completely debilitated and her family blames the shots. These are the kinds of stories that were erased by censorship. Censorship is evil and those responsible for it and for the destruction their silencing made possible must be made to pay.
‘Heather just turned 30 in Dec. She has been in a Rehab since Jan. last year. Heather was a young vibrant lady who took the COVID Vaccine. The Moderna Booster. Within 14 months, she’s been on a feeding tube. She was 94lbs in Jan., Now she’s at 80lbs.Heather cannot talk. She can only react to questions. Heathers medical bills keep piling up because anytime she needs to go to the hospital, she gets charged.’
The before and after photos on the VaccineInjuries.me Telegram channel are even more stark than on the Gofundme page.
OMG – look at the photo https://thechadrabbit.substack.com/p/the-rise-of-the-medical-emergency-f0b
I’d love to donate but I only have 3 pennies ..and that’s below the minimum .. so I regret to inform you I have no f789s to give
We’ve all been boosted and we’re all fine.
An Urgent Warning: The Spike Protein Expressed On The Cell Surface Causes “Transplant Rejection” Of The Entire Body – Long COVID
This is by far my most important post. It is also my most disturbing. Yet, it is my greatest hope that it will guide us towards finding solutions.
Please study the above image carefully. This is a graphic which shows how the body rejects transplants. Every single individual that receives a transplanted organ will have some level of this type of rejection. The ONLY exception will be if the organ donor happens to be an identical twin of the recipient.
Why? Because identical twins have the same DNA. And there’s the rub. People who are not identical twins of each other have different MHC molecules expressed on their cell surfaces. Virtually every cell in the body has some type of MHC molecule expressed on its surface.
As you can observe, the body identifies the MHC molecule expressed on the transplanted organ is recognized as foreign by the recipient’s immune system and the immune system then begins to attack the organ.
Why is this so extremely dangerous, in the context of the Spike Protein?
https://wmcresearch.substack.com/p/an-urgent-warning-the-spike-protein
Why can’t we have one sane nation on the planet?
Whenever you get an especially intelligent and civilized group, they create a civilized and safe nation, which removes Darwinian selection for the intelligence and culture that begat it. Simply put, the domestic population gets soft and dumb, not just culturally, but genetically. The high quality of life also serves as a magnet for immigration, which further erodes whatever deviation from the norm had existed.
The above line of reasoning argues for eugenics / the curtailment of individual reproductive freedom and strict selection criteria in immigration. Instead, it seems we will just let things run their course and have social devolution and a massive die-off. Perhaps synthetic biology and technical innovation will abruptly reverse the trajectory. One can hope, I guess.
This is why I like the Klingons. Get weak get killed. Need medication get killed. The exact opposite of the west where the feral animals who can not feed, cloth, or house themselves must be cared for by the tax payer so says the politicians.
Due to meteoric advances in health care (also clean water and food abundance) in the past 70 years, human evolution has suddenly stopped in its tracks. There has been no selection against deleterious genes, Every one is kept alive at all costs. The problem is survivors are allowed to reproduce and pass on their bad seed. Those progeny in turn will have higher incidence of disease and require ever increasing health care costs.
IQs, even in a formerly western European homgenous population, have declined, even if one does not factor in other race admixture. In the end, the IQ baseline (70-85) of the African hunter- gatherer,is all that is required for a primitive existance.
I quickly add that “high IQ” has resulted in higher tech weapons which have culled populations in dramatic fashion. WWI, WW II, nuclear weapons.
Higher IQ and from there, higher technology and complexity also result in more rapid depletion of resources.
So more intelligence may not be so advantageous in the long run either.
Nature never allows for elevated plateaus of bliss for very long. We’ve had a good run for the past 70 years.Now that energy is harder to come by and the debt burden has overwhelmed any benefits of borrowing for constructive purposes, it’s payback time. There are no realistic political, legal, constitutional remedies to “peacefully” address the impending problems.
In the Great Depression, most people were only one generation from the farm and more resilient. Today, most of us in the US are useless which means that the threshold for chaos is much lower. We have no useful skills, and there are so many of us sitting here depending on our keyboards to make a living. Greater than 50% depend on government transfer payments.
Quite cynically, I tell my daughter that as long as I collect more from my Social Security than it costs me to live, then I can spend the rest on things like avoiding rip-off college education debt, I am more useful to her alive than dead.
Life was never meant to be easy. Although politically incorrect to offer as a “solution,” one way or another the population will be culled.
>> IQs, even in a formerly western European homgenous population, have declined, even if one does not factor in other race admixture.
I’ve never studied this, but I wonder how much of it is rooted in:
(1) negative genetic drift; the tendency for the average offspring to be inferior to its parents, due to genetic errors (10,000 SNP errors on average, I read once) and various copy-number variation in both coding and non-coding regions, versus
(2) a switch in emphasis from natural selection to female sexual selection; we used to fight nature and the survivors reproduced, with less female say in the matter, but now everyone survives and women may prefer mates who are likable and compatible with our hyper-social society
>> Higher IQ and from there, higher technology and complexity also result in more rapid depletion of resources.
Isn’t the answer usually that those with some advantage kill the others when scarcity hits? Killer yeast are strains that secrete special toxins that kill their same-species competition that doesn’t carry the gene.
I wonder whether this time around in human history, some might have the foresight, means, and psychopathy to save themselves at the expense of everyone else.
ivan,
Female selection may be at play secondary to the “pill.”
Smell is affected by the pill.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5176159/
Pheromones are thought in part to cause rejection of poor mating pairs(recessive gene issues), the opposite of attraction; they make the female more selective.
There have been reports of women going off the pill to have children and finding they can’t stand the smell of their husband, significant other, etc.
It took the universe 13.7B years to get here, many ideas which did not work were rejected and the word, “next” comes to mind.
It will be fine, They will think of something; too much work and time to have it fail at this point.
It is going to be a bit bumpy.
Dennis L.
This is polarizing the world … the more educated breed (assume they have more intelligence cuz they are circus animals)…. their vermin get the best education … best food .. etc.. leaving the barnyard animals in their dust
On the contrary, the genetic manipulators and technological innovators are themselves decadent and selfish, and will choose what results only in immediate profit and increase of personal/corporate power.
They will not choose wisely: it would just be another iteration of folly, delusion and cruelty.
>> the genetic manipulators and technological innovators are themselves decadent and selfish
I think one needs to distinguish between the controllers and the people actually driving innovation. They are separate groups and the latter are less pathological or arguably even virtuous. It may be difficult for the controllers to maintain control over their scientist and engineer underlings.
ivan,
Agreed, the innovators are too smart for the controllers, they generally win; e.g. Wernher von Braun. Sure I will salute the red and black flag, different boss, sure I will salute the red, white and blue flag. Now, can I have some more rocket fuel?
Dennis L.
surely you are forgetting Russia?
Declare yourself an autonomous, noble, Republic like me, Ed, and you can be that island of sanity, obeying your own laws and bowing to no one except God – who’s too busy to notice of course but it’s only polite.
I am enjoying being President, minister of defence, health, finance, etc, and the entire peasantry, all at once.
Have fun inventing your flag – I use my coat-of-arms, which is terribly pretty – and raise it with pride. But not Pride, of course….
I write about the Calhoun Rat Utopia a few days ago. It was shown that ifbthe weak were not taken out, they will eventually take over the society. Refer to current wokeism as am example
Thank you Xabier. This is the best advice I have been given in a long long time. A coat-of-arms I like it.
My pleasure, Ed. You can have fun inventing a suitable motto, and war-cry, too.
I really like the old Lakota one: ‘It’s a good day to die!’
I am considering the merits of ‘Strong but Elegant’ and ‘Sneaky but Deadly’. or more vulgarly: ‘You Can Stick Your Vaxx Up Your A…s!’
Anyway, long live the Republic!
careful there
the veneer of affectation rubs off at the slightest abrasion
then you will find yourself underwhelmed
I like ‘Death to Tyrants’
Bibi, 32, one of the British dance scene’s most popular DJs and a ‘global superstar,’ told fans Monday his cancer was “moving fast,” so he had to immediately start aggressive, inpatient hospital treatment. He’s been diagnosed with an ultra-rare primary central nervous system lymphoma (PCNSL). ‘Lymphoma’ means it starts in the lymphatic system, and ‘primary’ means it started particularly in the lymph of his brain or spinal cord.
PCNSL is a very challenging disease with a poor prognosis and an unusually high relapse rate. Median survival rates range from 12-60 months, depending on the patient’s age, performance status, and the treatments used
Guess what was Bibi’s first symptom? Tinnitus. Purely coincidentally, I personally know three jabbed people with new tinnitus diagnoses.
Unfortunately, Bibi won’t be mixing any new tunes anytime soon, but on the bright side, at least he had his jabs! So it could have been worse.
https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/the-fake-news-test-wednesday-june
Poor bibi… poor poor bibi… it’s all good fun … till the spinning lathe latches onto your arm… and shreds you.
right keith… norm…
As a family member admonished me — we’ve had the boosters – the kids have had the boosters — not interested to discuss this topic.
google trends search frequency for “tinnitus” spiked since march 2021 when vaccines were introduced
youtube search frequency:
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all_2008&geo=US&gprop=youtube&q=tinnitus&hl=en
web search frequency:
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=tinnitus&hl=en
That’s a good vax injury — every waking moment the injured can hear the echo of the Rat Juice in their heads … hahahaha
Still nowhere near enough people crashing and burning to satisfy my Inner Schad though. I’ve got a list of people that I am hoping go down
As obesity rates among U.S. kids and teens continue to soar, more children and adolescents in the U.S. are undergoing weight-loss surgery, a new peer-reviewed study concluded.
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/kids-teens-obesity-weight-loss-surgeries/
Cro – any thoughts on how to help them avoid the surgery
What is a human individual?
An extinguishing bioreactor.
I eat animals, I burn fossil fuels.
I Am The Extinguishing Bioreactor.
I was thinking about the death of a priest from Slovakia who commited suicide in the USA, serving in the diocese of Youngstown, Ohio where the steel industry furnaces extinguished. He shortly served in my area.
https://www.wfmj.com/story/47418639/former-struthers-pastor-investigated-for-alleged-improprieties-with-children-dead-after-apparent-suicide
I imagined this fictitious dialogue:
The investigator: Why have you touched the minors?
The priest: As an ageing person, I am a cooling down bioreactor and I wanted to get some heat from the warmer bioreactor.
Solutions to our problems, space as always.
We will build the factories in space with machines that assemble the factories.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR12GHIqlac
Gershenfeld is fascinating, he is also on a similar path as is Michael Levin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3lsYlod5OU&t=112s
We are starting to solve some very basic problems, how things are built; we will solve manufacturing space issues, Starcraft is the start.
Dennis L.
I wrote a comment stating the prerequisites for becoming a spacefaring civilization. In one sentence, nice guys don’t build a spacefaring civ.
you are both delusional.
Is that a form of mental illness? I don’t have the time to check https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2013-14907-000
drb,
Time will tell; if we don’t do space, we are toast; there is only loss, nothing to gain. Hence, this is a “safe” bet, a finite probability to win if one plays, an absolute probability to lose if one does not play.
Next problem please.
Dennis L.
it all requires earth based industry which is itself unsupportable in the first place
No, norman.
Space has endless energy, endless materials waiting to be assembled by self replicating machines – currently those machines exist and are called “biological life.”
We are beginning to understand the process, I referenced a key researcher. Think Legos for example, fixed dimensions, can be assembled in various ways to make many complex objects, buy a child.
We are getting there. If Starcraft works(I have posted about the incredible amount of money going into this project) and self replication works, spaceship earth is saved. The fabric of the universe will be very pleased and smile on the biological lifeforms which are the result of billions of years of hard work.
TINA
Dennis L.
dunno why i keep repeating this stuff
energy of itself is literally use—less until it is converted into something else
We on this planet sat on seas of oil for millions of years—it had no use whatsoever until people started burning it in machines
yes—”out there” is infinite energy
that isn’t the problem—converting it into useful objects of user-value is the problem
drag as much ‘energy’ back to Earth as you like—it will not improve our lifestyle unless it is converted into another form.
or, if you like—–
put a power station on every street corner—but unless the people living in the street have ways of consuming/converting the energy it produces, it will simply be a waste of human production capacity.
it’s not energy we are short of, it’s cheap ways of using it we are short of—for the past 100 years humankind has thrived not on energy per se—but cheap surplus energy.
> Anyone know anything more about this? Something we’ve discussed around
> here occasionally. Looks like FAA (later also a NASA/Space Force
> followon) is planning a drop-test program to get more data on
> appropriate explosive-equivalence assumptions for LOX-LCH4 rocket safety
> planning.
The FAA is concerned about the effects of mixed LNG and LOX, unlikely
as it is that the common bulkhead could fail.
The day after this post, I woke up musing about the recent postings on a-rocket.
The FAA concern is bulkhead failure, intimate mixing of the liquid
methane and LOX, and a shock to make a big boom.
Burning on contact makes a heck of a fire, but no shock wave.
I thought up a passive, low-cost, and reliable way; to assure a fire
rather than mixing. Put an open container of triethylaluminum in the
top of the liquid methane tank. “It is one of the few substances
sufficiently pyrophoric to ignite on contact with cryogenic liquid
oxygen.” (Wikipedia). Waited till the check to the patent office
cleared before posting this.
This is a superb weapon of war. It would make a big bang.
> Solutions to our problems, space as always.
My answer as always: Yeah, right.
Dennis, you might enjoy Daniel Dennett’s book Freedom Evolves.
Experience with Bing:
I am stubborn, old school, books when necessary; had a problem with an excel formula, logic correct, repeated error message.
Bing immediately corrected the syntax(I also use Python), worked immediately, this online help is going to change many things, it was virtually instantaneous.
If one is a conscientious student, I can see this being a teacher at one’s shoulder, finally truly individualized instruction. Once again, the serious, bright students will fly no matter how many times a teacher tells them “2+2 can = 5”
The 80/20 rule seems embedded in the fabric of the universe. My take is the universe is satisfied with getting 80% of the result with 20% of the work, God is very busy as they say.
Dennis L.
Alfred von Schlieffen, who set up the plan for the Great War, caked a beautiful creek “a minor obstacle’.
He set up an elaborate plan, which included invading the Maastricht area in Holland, giving no concern to Dutch neutrality.
He was truly a civilization hero, whose plan would have saved most troubles of the 20th century.
Unfortunately , after he died, someone named Helmuth von Moltke the younger botched up Schlieffen’s plan, including not invading Holland to ‘leave it as a import corridor’. If Moltke didn’t botch the plan the war in the West would have ended within a couple months since the need to waste time at Liege would have been eliminated . Despite of the name the younger Moltke was not a son of the Great Moltke,who had no children and the name was given to a nephew who failed to live up the plan.
MacArthur’s plan to nuke China, or the generals’ plan to go to a nuclear war in 1962 when USSR lacked the arsenal to destroy USA once for all, were systemic plans which would have saved today’s woes if they were allowed to reach fruition. But the do-gooders who gave a damn to the lives of the Chinese and the Russians botched them.
They missed the chance to destroy the world in a hail of nuclear explosions? Looking around at civilization today, “better late than never” comes to mind. There is still time, rejoice!
At that time USSR lacked the nuclear arsenal to destroy USA
Some coastal cities in the south might have been affected. The North and the West would not be affected
ivan,
Again the dichotomy: you see nuclear war and devastation, I see solar energy(fusion if you like), pollution dumped into the solar system’s garbage can, Jupiter, earth spiffed up and the owner of the fabric of the universe smiling on his biological creations.
I’ll bet I can sell my visiion politically much easier than yours.
TINA
Dennis L.
“sell my vision”
I hope so, but it is a tricky business. I have some experience without understanding humans from first principles.
The space movement of the mid 1970s was partly a reaction to the dire “limits to growth” world view. (See the Wikipedia page on Eric Drexler.) That movement peaked in the mid 80s because the reality was so at odds with the vision. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L5_Society
When they merged, L5 Society had around 10,000 members, National Space Institute had about 25,000. There was surprisingly little overlap. The numbers drifted down (from what I hear) to well under 10,000 before rebounding. The last convention had over 1000 attending, including a large number of students from India.
Understanding what motivates people will take a deep dive into evolutionary psychology, memetics and related topics.
Or perhaps it would just be better to frame a good set of questions for an AI.
My opinion of humans… degrades further with every post from keith….
On a scale of 1-10 with one being bad… we’re now at -655
dennis – see if you can push FE below 1000
it is said that if USA ignored the acute food situation in United Kingdom (and USSR) during WW2 and instead spent the shipping to war materiel, WW2 would have ended one year earlier.
Also I had deduced that if Imperial Germany had chosen to starve the people of the Posen province (now called Poznan), with a 90%+ Polish population, it would have avoided the food crisis of 1918 and dragged the war for one more year, when the people of USA would begin to grow sick of the war which they were not that hot about.
That is systemic thinking, needed to maintain and advance civilization.
Scarcer resources will lead to the rise of systemic thinking, with no mercy and the only point is efficiency. The victory of the technocrats. Unfortunately for the West, China is already kind of a technocracy, where King Hubbert, who founded technocracy as well as the Peak Oil Theory, would have felt at home.
If my uncle was a woman, he’d be my aunt.
If only the Germans had conquered the Romans, but they didn’t have the Gaul.
And if pigs could fly, imagine the shock and awe they could rain down on us!?
So in times of intractable troubles and frustrations, we are left with Kipling’s iffy poem (beautifully read by John Hurt):
With the decline of resources, emotions will die a very violent death, and humans who think like AIs will have the most success.
The game of go/weiqi already had the transformation. After the Deep Mind AI trounced human champions, the current weiqi champions are those who can mimic AI the most, and one guy even was suspected of cheating when his moves were exactly like that of an AI (he was nobody until he changed his style to mimic the AIs, but it was too much and he was put into a heavy surveillance and his performance plummeted.)
Yevgeny Zyamatin, whose “We” became the ‘inspiration’ for both Orwell’s 1984 and Huxley’s Brave New World, ends his book of totalitarianism with a flight to the deep space. An engineer by trade, he spent the Great War in UK, producing torpedoes for the Russian Navy (the Czar sent Zyamatin to there to make him stay away from the revolutions) . He knew a totalitarianism, with zero concern for individuality, was the prerequisite for a spacefaring civilization.
What would a post Type I person, if someone can be called that way, think of me? They will say that I was a fool with fool of emotions, when I am probably the most emotionless person most of you will ever encounter.
Fast Eddy’s UEP is extreme but Kulm the Status Quo’s Saving the Top plan is a bit less extreme.
There is a movie called Hara Kiri, made in 1962 or so. In a prominent clan, a samurai commits ritual suicide, but he was not among those chosen to die so he was reprimanded and his wife and child die in poverty.
The wife’s father, a poor samurai, petitions the lord, who ignores him, and lets a retainer titled Kageyu to deal with it.l Kageyu is not a name, but a title, roughly corresponding to ‘Inspector”, which means he is no longer a human, but a machine, for the lack of better word.
In revenge the poor samurai creates a scene where he cuts the topknots of several samurais in the fief, but is ultimately killed by the Kageyu’s men. The Kageyu feels nothing whatsoever – all he has in his mind is maintaining order so the clan does not fall from the shogun’s favor, since a clan which creates incidents was soon visited by the Shogun’s retainers who were eager to carve up the fief.
The people who lost their topknots were buried, the Kageyu writes a letter to the shogunate and gets a praise, and the whole thing is buried as if nothing has happened. Not mentioned in there , but the Kageyu (inspector)’s position is hereditary so having proven his trustworthiness, he will be able to pass his position to his descendants. In 1860s Japan got modernized, but the old lords who were kind of famous were given titles like dukes, marquess and earls, and their prominent retainers, who were there for generations , were made into barons so chances are the Kageyu’s descendant probably became a Baron too, while the name of the poor samurai would have been forgotten for centuries.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0056058/characters/nm0586733
Kageyu Saito : The ronin from Hiroshima, Hanshiro Tsugumo, committed hara kiri. All our own men died of illness. The house of Iyi has no retainers who could be felled or wounded by some half-starved ronin.
Kageyu Saito : This world does not bend to sentimental tales.
The movie was obviously made to criticize the politicians and officials, who sent millions to death and killed millions more, but showing no remorse and now getting fat on Japan’s expanding economy. But in retrospect the side of the Kageyu won while the complainers have passed into the backstory of books nobody reads.
The world is run by machine-like beings, no longer humans. I was raised that way, to have zero emotions and a clear understanding of the world which is usually not palatable to the common folk, but it has served me well and I have no intention to change the way I see the world.
Fast Eddy’s UEP goes against the grain of human nature but Kulm the Status Quo’s Saving the Top plan goes with the grain.
If I was one of the global Elite, the Back Nobility, the Elders, the Olympians, the Committee of 300, the Top Level of the Ziggurat, I would definitely plan to save me and mine. And if that meant damning the bulk of my fellow humans, I’d train myself to do it no more emotion than I would feel at the slaughter of farm animals.
But I’m not one of that group. I can’t stand heights. I’m sentimental to a fault. And I’d much rather hang out at OFW than try to rule or run or manage the world.
Its ok, the God of this World is an intrusion, a virus, a meddler in the generous heart of creation. It only has true power if you give it the access. The ziggurat is only built of pounded clay…..and its starting to rain hard now…..lol.
Let the music keep our spirits high
Let the buildings keep our children dry
Let creation reveal it’s secrets by and by, by and by
When the light that’s lost within us reaches the sky
Before the Deluge, Jackson Browne
‘Trotsky’
That seems to be an urban legend.
The British state used the term ‘racism’ to denote anti-imperialist sentiments among the locals under British colonialism.
The idea was that it was ‘bad’ for the BS if the locals framed things in terms of ethnicities and domination from the outside.
After WWII, the BS lost the Empire with its labour pools, resources and markets, immigration started to compensate for that loss, and the use of the phrase shifted to denote locals in Britain.
I will link to a book on it later.