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A major reason for the growth in the use of renewable energy is the fact that if a person looks at them narrowly enough–such as by using a model–wind and solar look to be useful. They don’t burn fossil fuels, so it appears that they might be helpful to the environment.
As I analyze the situation, I have reached the conclusion that energy modeling misses important points. I believe that profitability signals are much more important. In this post, I discuss some associated issues.
Overview of this Post
In Sections [1] through [4], I look at some issues that energy modelers in general, including economists, tend to miss when evaluating both fossil fuel energy and renewables, including wind and solar. The major issue in these sections is the connection between high energy prices and the need to increase government debt. To prevent the continued upward spiral of government debt, any replacement for fossil fuels must also be very inexpensive–perhaps as inexpensive as oil was prior to 1970. In fact, the real limit to fossil fuel extraction and to the building of new wind turbines and solar panels may be government debt that becomes unmanageable in an inflationary period.
In Section [5], I try to explain one reason why published Energy Return on Energy Investment (EROEI) indications give an overly favorable impression of the value of adding a huge amount of renewable energy to the electric grid. The basic issue is that the calculations were not set up for this purpose. These models were set up to evaluate the efficiency of generating a small amount of wind or solar energy, without consideration of broader issues. If these broader issues were included, EROEI indications would be much lower (less favorable).
One of the broader issues omitted is the fact that the electrical output of wind turbines and solar panels does not match up well with the timing needs of society, leading to the need for a great deal of energy storage. Another omitted issue is the huge quantity of energy products and other materials required to make a transition to a mostly electrical economy. It is easy to see that both omitted issues would add a huge amount of energy costs and other costs, if a major transition is made. Furthermore, wind and solar have gotten along so far using hidden subsidies from the fossil fuel energy system, including the subsidy of being allowed to go first on the electricity grid. EROEI calculations cannot evaluate the amount of this hidden subsidy.
In Section [6], I point out the true indicator of the feasibility of renewables. If electricity generation using wind and solar energy are truly helpful to the economy, they will generate a great deal of taxable income. They will not require the subsidy of going first, or any other subsidy. This does not describe today’s wind or solar.
In Section [7] and [8], I explain some of the reasons why EROEI calculations for wind and solar tend to be misleadingly favorable, even apart from broader issues.
Economic Issues that Energy Modelers Tend to Miss
[1] The economy is very short of oil that is inexpensive-to-extract. The economy seems to require a great deal more government debt when energy prices are high. Models for renewable energy production need to consider this issue, even if any substitution for oil is very indirect.
I think of the problem of rising energy prices for an economy as being like a citizen faced with an increase in food costs. The citizen will attempt to balance his budget by adding more debt, at least until his credit cards get maxed out. This is why we should expect to see an increase in government debt when oil prices are high; oil and other fossil fuels are as essential to the economy as food is to humans.
Figure 1 shows that most US government funding shortfalls occurred when oil prices were above $20 per barrel, in inflation-adjusted prices. For the 15-year period 2008 through 2022, US government expenditures were 26% higher than its receipts.
Figure 2 shows a reference chart of average annual oil prices, adjusted for inflation.
Figure 2. Average annual inflation-adjusted Brent oil prices based on data from BP’s 2022 Statistical Review of World Energy.
The reason why oil prices tend to be high now is because the inexpensive-to-extract oil has mostly been extracted. What is left is oil that is expensive to extract. The low prices in the years surrounding 1998 reflected a supply-demand mismatch after the Asian Economic Crisis of 1997. The crisis held down demand at the same time as production was ramping up in Iraq, Venezuela, Canada, and Mexico.
[2] Economists tend to assume that shortages of oil will lead to much higher fossil fuel prices, thereby making renewables inexpensive in comparison. One reason this doesn’t happen is related to the buildup of debt, noted in Figure 1, when oil prices are high.
Section [1] shows that high oil prices seem to be associated with government deficits. A high-priced substitute for oil would almost certainly have a similar problem. This governmental debt tends to build up, and at some point becomes almost unmanageable.
A major problem occurs when there is a round of inflation. Central banks find a need to increase interest rates, partly to keep lenders interested in lending in an inflationary economy and partly to try to slow the inflation rate. In fact, the US is currently being tested by such a debt buildup and increase in interest rates, beginning about January 2022 (Figure 3).
Higher interest rates tend to have the effect of slowing the economy. In part, the economy slows because the cost of borrowing money rises. As a result, businesses are less likely to expand, and would-be auto owners are likely to put off new purchases because of the higher monthly payments. Commercial real estate can also be adversely affected by rising interest rates if owners of buildings find it impossible to raise rents fast enough to keep up with higher interest rates on mortgages and higher costs of other kinds.
[3] It is uncertain in exactly which ways the economy might contract, in response to higher interest rates. Some ways the economy could contract would bring an early end to both the extraction of fossil fuels and the manufacturing of renewables. This is not reflected in models.
If the economy contracts, one possible result is a recession with lower oil prices. This clearly doesn’t fix the problem of the cost of wind and solar electricity being unacceptably high, especially when the cost of all the batteries and additional transmission lines is included. In some sense, the price needs to be equivalent to a $20 per barrel oil price, or lower, to stop the huge upward debt spiral.
Another possibility, rather than the US economy as a whole contracting, is that the US government will disproportionately contract; perhaps it will send many programs back to the states. In such a scenario, there is likely to be less, rather than more, funding for renewables. I understand that Republicans in Texas are already unhappy with the high level of wind and solar generation being used there.
A third possibility is hyperinflation, as the government tries to add more money to keep the overall system, especially banks and pension plans, from failing. Even with hyperinflation, there is no particular benefit to renewables.
A fourth possibility is disruption of trade relationships between the US and other countries. This could even be related to a new world war. Renewables depend upon worldwide supply lines, just as today’s fossil fuels do. Building and maintaining the electrical grid also requires worldwide supply lines. As these supply lines break, all parts of the system will be difficult to maintain; replacement infrastructure after storms will become problematic. Renewables may not last any longer than fossil fuels.
[4] Economists tend to miss the fact that oil prices, and energy prices in general, need to be both high enough for the producer to make a profit and low enough for consumers to afford finished goods made with the energy products. This two-way tug-of-war tends to keep oil prices lower than most economists would expect, and indirectly caps the total amount of oil that can be extracted.
Figure [2] shows that, on an annual average basis, inflation-adjusted Brent oil prices have only exceeded $120 per barrel during the years 2011, 2012 and 2013. On an annual basis, oil prices have not exceeded that level since then. For a while, forecasts of oil prices as high as $300 per barrel in 2014 US dollars were being shown as an outside possibility (Figure 4).
With close to another decade of experience, it has become clear that high oil prices don’t “stick” very well. The economy then slides into recession, or some other adverse event takes place, bringing oil prices back down again. The relatively low maximum to fossil fuel prices tends to lead to a much earlier end to fossil fuel extraction than most analyses of available resource amounts would suggest.
OPEC+ tends to reduce supply because they find prices too low. US drillers of oil from shale formations (tight oil in Figure 4) have been reducing the number of drilling rigs because oil prices are not high enough to justify more investment. Politicians know that voters dislike inflation, so they take actions to hold down fossil fuel prices. All these approaches tend to keep oil prices low, and indirectly put a cap on output.
Why Indications from EROEI Analyses Don’t Work for Electrification of the Economy
[5] Energy Return on Energy Invested (EROEI) analyses were not designed to analyze the situation of a massive scaling up of wind and solar, as some people are now considering. If utilized for this purpose, they provide a far too optimistic an outlook for renewables.
The EROEI calculation compares the energy output of a system to the energy input of the system. A high ratio is good; a low ratio tends to be a problem. As I noted in the introduction, published EROEIs of wind and solar are prepared as if they are to be only a very small part of electricity generation. It is assumed that other types of generation can essentially provide free balancing services for wind and solar, even though doing so will adversely affect their own profitability.
A recent review paper by Murphy et al. seems to indicate that wind and solar have favorable EROEIs compared to those of coal and natural gas, at point of use. I don’t think that these favorable EROEIs really mean very much when it comes to the feasibility of scaling up renewables, for several reasons:
[a] The pricing scheme generally used for wind and solar electricity tends to drive out other forms of electrical generation. In most places where wind and solar are utilized, the output of wind and solar is given priority on the grid, distorting the wholesale prices paid to other providers. When high amounts of wind or solar are available, wind and solar generation are paid the normal wholesale electricity price for electricity, while other electricity providers are given very low or negative wholesale prices. These low prices force other providers to reduce production, making it difficult for them to earn an adequate return on their investments.
This approach is unfair to other electricity providers. It is especially unfair to nuclear because most of its costs are fixed. Furthermore, most plants cannot easily ramp electricity production up and down. A recently opened nuclear plant in Finland (which was 14 years behind plan in opening) is already experiencing problems with negative wholesale electricity rates, and because of this, is reducing its electricity production.
Historical data shows that the combined contribution of wind, solar, and nuclear doesn’t necessarily increase the way that a person might expect if wind and solar are truly adding to electricity production. In Europe, especially, the availability of wind and solar seems to be being used as an excuse to close nuclear power plants. With the pricing scheme utilized, plants generating nuclear energy tend to lose money, encouraging the owners of plants to close them.
The US has been providing subsidies to its nuclear plants to prevent their closing. When one form of electricity gets a subsidy, even the subsidy of going first, other forms of electricity seem to need a subsidy to compete.
[b] Small share of energy supply. Based on Figure 5, the total of wind, solar, and nuclear electricity only provides about 6.1% of the world’s total energy supply. An IEA graph of world energy consumption (Figure 6) doesn’t even show wind and solar electricity separately. Instead, they are part of the thin orange “Other” line at the top of the chart; nuclear is the dark green line above Natural Gas.
Given the tiny share of wind and solar today, ramping them up, or those fuels plus a few others, to replace all other energy supplies seems like it would be an amazingly large stretch. If the economy is, in fact, much like a human in that it cannot substantially reduce energy consumption without collapsing, drastically reducing the quantity of energy consumed by the world economy is not an option if we expect to have an economy remotely like today’s economy.
[c] Farming today requires the use of oil. Transforming farming to an electrical operation would be a huge undertaking. Today’s farm machinery is mostly powered by diesel. Food is transported to market in oil-powered trucks, boats, and airplanes. Herbicides and pesticides used in farming are oil-based products. There is no easy way of converting the energy system used for food production and distribution from oil to electricity.
At a minimum, the entire food production system would need to be modeled. What inventions would be needed to make such a change possible? What materials would be required for the transformation? Where would all these materials come from? How much debt would be required to fund this transformation?
The only thing that the EROEI calculation could claim is that if such a system could be put in place, the amount of fossil fuels used to operate the system might be low. The overwhelming complexity of the necessary transformation has not been modeled, so its energy cost is omitted from the EROEI calculation. This is one way that calculated EROEIs are misleadingly optimistic.
[d] EROEI calculations do not include any energy usage related to the storage of electricity until it is needed. Solar energy is most available during the summer. Thus, the most closely matched use of solar electricity is to power air conditioners during summer. Even in this application, several hours’ worth of battery storage are needed to make the system work properly because air conditioners continue to operate after the sun sets. Also, people who come home from work need to cook dinner for their families, and this takes electricity. Energy costs related to electricity storage are not reflected in the EROEIs shown in published summaries such as those of the Murphy analysis.
A much more important need than air conditioning is the need for heat energy in winter to heat homes and offices. Neither wind nor solar can be counted upon to provide electricity when it is cold outside. One workaround would be to greatly overbuild the system, so that there would be a better chance of the renewable source producing enough electricity when it is needed. Adding several days of storage through batteries would be helpful too. An alternate approach would be to store excess electricity indirectly, by using it to produce a liquid such as hydrogen or methanol. Again, all of this becomes complex. It needs to be tried on small scale, and the real cost of the full system determined.
Both the need to overbuild the system and the need to provide storage are excluded from EROEI calculations. These are yet other ways that EROEI calculations provide an overly optimistic view of the value of wind and solar.
[e] Long distance travel. We use oil products for long distance transport by ship, air, truck, and train. If changes are to be made to use electricity or some sort of “green fuels,” this is another area where the entire change would need to be mapped out for feasibility, including the inventions needed, the materials required, and the debt this change would entail. What timeframe would be required? Would there be any possibility of achieving the transformation by 2050? I doubt it.
The conversion of all transportation to green energy is very much like the needed conversion of the food system from oil to electricity, discussed in [5c], above. Huge complexity is involved, but the energy cost of this added complexity has been excluded from EROEI calculations. This further adds to the misleading nature of EROEI indications for renewables.
[f] A dual system is probably needed. Even if it makes sense to ramp up wind and solar, there still will be a need for many products that are today made with fossil fuels. Fossil fuels are used in paving roads and for making lubrication for machines. Herbicides, insecticides, and pharmaceutical products are often made from fossil fuels. Natural gas is often used to make ammonia fertilizer. Fabrics and building materials are often made using fossil fuels.
Thus, it is almost certain that a dual system would be needed, encompassing both fossil fuels and electricity. There are likely to be inefficiencies in such a dual system. If intermittent renewables such as wind and solar are to be a major part of the economy, this inefficiency needs to be part of any model and needs to be reflected in EROEI calculations.
[g] “Renewable” devices are not themselves recyclable. Instead, they present a waste disposal problem. Solar panels especially present a toxic waste problem. Without much recycling, there is a long term need for minerals of many types to be extracted and transported around the world. These issues are not considered in modeling.
Profitability of Unsubsidized Renewables Is the Best Measure
[6] If renewables are to be truly useful to the system, they need to be so profitable that their profits can be taxed at a high rate. Furthermore, sufficient funds should be left over for reinvestment. The fact that this is not happening is a sign that renewables are not truly helpful to the economy.
Some people talk about the need for “surplus energy” from energy sources to power an economy. I connect this surplus energy with the ability of any energy source to generate income that can be taxed at a fairly high rate. In fact, I gave a talk to the International Society for Biophysical Economics on September 7, 2021, called, To Be Sustainable, Green Energy Must Generate Adequate Taxable Revenue.
The need for surplus energy that can be transferred to the government is closely connected with the debt problem that occurs when oil prices are higher than about $20 per barrel that I noted in Section [1] of this post. Renewable energy must be truly inexpensive, with all storage included, to be helpful to the economy. It must be affordable to citizens, without subsidies. The cost structure must be such that the renewable energy generates so much profit that it can pay high taxes. It is unfortunately clear that today’s renewables are too expensive for the US economy.
EROEI Models Can’t Tell Us as Much as We Would Like
[7] In the real economy, the economy builds up in small pieces, as new approaches prove to be profitable and as all the necessary components prove to be available. EROEI models shortcut this process, but they can easily be misleading.
The concept of Energy Return on Energy Invested has been used for many years in the field of biology. For example, we can compare the energy a fish gets from the food it eats to the energy the fish expends swimming to procure that food. The fish needs to get sufficient energy value from the food it eats to be able to cover the energy expended on the swim, plus a margin for other bodily functions, including reproduction.
Professor Charles Hall (and perhaps others) adapted this concept for use in comparing different energy “extraction” (broadly defined) techniques. More recent researchers have tried to extend the calculation to include energy costs of delivery to the user.
The adaptation of the biological concept of EROEI to the various processes associated with energy extraction works in some respects but not in others. The adaptation clearly works as a tool for teaching diminishing returns. It gives reasonable information for comparing oil wells to each other, or solar panels to other solar panels. But I don’t think that EROEI comparisons across energy types works well at all.
One issue is that there are huge differences in the selling prices of different types of energy. These are ignored in EROEI calculations, making it look feasible to use a high-priced type of energy (such as oil) to produce a low-valued type of output (intermittent electricity from wind turbines or solar panels). If profitability calculations were made instead, without mandates or subsidies (including the subsidy of going first), the extent to which there is a favorable return would become clear.
Another issue is that intermittency of wind and solar adds huge costs to the system, but these are ignored in EROEI calculations. (The situation is somewhat like having workers drop in and leave according to their own schedules, rather than working during the schedule the employer prefers.) In EROEI calculations, the assumption usually made is that the fossil fuel system will provide free balancing services by operating their electricity generation systems in an inefficient manner. In fact, this is the assumption made in the Murphy paper cited previously.
An analysis by Graham Palmer gives some insight regarding the high energy cost of adding battery backup (Figure 7).
In Figure 7, Palmer shows the pattern of energy investment and energy payback for a particular off-grid home in Australia which uses solar panels and battery backup. His zig-zag chart reflects two offsetting impacts:
(a) Energy investment was required at the beginning, both for the solar panels and for the first set of batteries. The solar panels in this analysis last for 30 years, but the batteries only last for 7.5 years. As a result, it is necessary to invest in new batteries, three additional times over the period.
(b) Solar panels only gradually make their payback.
Palmer finds that the system would be in a state of energy deficit (considering only energy out versus energy in) for 20 years. At the end of 30 years, the combined system would return only 1.3 times as much energy as the energy invested in the system. This is an incredibly poor payback! EROEI enthusiasts usually look for a payback of 10 or more. The solar panels in the analysis were close to this target level, at 9.4. But the energy required for the battery backup brought the EROEI down to 1.3.
Palmer’s analysis points out another difficulty with wind and solar: The energy payback is terribly slow. If we burn fossil fuels, the economy gets a payback immediately. If we manufacture wind turbines or solar panels, there is a far longer period of something that might be called, “energy indebtedness.” EROEI calculations conveniently ignore interest charges, again making the situation look better than it really is. The buildup in debt is also ignored.
Thus, even without the issue of scaling up renewables if we are to make a transition to energy system more focused on electricity, EROEI calculations are set up in a way that make intermittent renewable energy look far more feasible than it really is. “Energy Payback Period” is another similar metric, with similar biases.
The fact that these metrics are misleading is difficult to see. Very inexpensive fossil fuels pay back their cost many times over, in terms of societal gain, virtually immediately. Wind turbines and solar panels depend upon the generosity of the fossil fuel system to get any payback at all because intermittent electricity cannot support an economy like today’s economy. Even then, the payback is only available over a period of years.
I am afraid that the only real way of analyzing the feasibility of scaling up electricity using wind and solar is by looking at whether they can be extraordinarily profitable, without subsidies. If so, they can be highly taxed and end our government debt problem. The fact that wind and solar require subsidies and mandates, year after year, should make it clear that they aren’t solutions.
US experts say to wear N95 mask for safety from Canada’s wildfire smoke – New York Times
“Climate lockdowns coming.”
The smoke is quite unpleasant in the eyes and throat.
Don’t go to work or school. Keep your doors and windows shut.
“The fact that wind and solar require subsidies and mandates, year after year, should make it clear that they aren’t solutions.”
Also, the fact that, even with the subsidies & mandates, there’s no power grid which gets even nearly half its energy from IRE (such as wind/solar — intermittent renewable energy).
BRICS has Russia, China, & India — much of the world’s population & landmass — & they’re kniving with several other countries to jilt the US dollar in their trading …
Sorry, the word should have been “conniving”
If you include hydro-electric with the intermittent renewable electricity, it is possible to get over 50%. BP data gives information only for groupings of countries. I would expect Norway to be in this category. BP shows Canada to be at 67%, in 2021. Brazil was at 77%. The problem is that droughts, even in Norway, very much affect the electricity supply, greatly reducing exports. Norway recently was experiencing a drought, I read.
(Haaretz) ”Tucker Carlson Trafficks in Antisemitic”
if I’ve understood correctly, the first episode of Tucker Carlson on Twitter has been judged ‘antisemitic’.
a) First point, I’m not fan of Tucker, but I kindly ask you where he exactly criticized Jews (I really ask you just for me to understand). Thanks!
b) Second point, I have some difficulty to understand why ‘antisemitic’ is considered something against Jews, as ‘semitic’ is a broad term which includes also other populations.
From Britannia: ”Semite, name given in the 19th century to a member of any people who speak one of the Semitic languages, a family of languages spoken primarily in parts of western Asia and Africa. The term therefore came to include Arabs, Akkadians, Canaanites, Hebrews, some Ethiopians (including the Amhara and the Tigrayans), and Aramaean tribes.”
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Semite
Therefore, it is not clear to me why one – in case the above is correct – should also ate other populations. Maybe they should criticize it as an ‘antihebrew’ episode… In case he criticized them.
Thanks for those who want to explain. Or give their opinions.
https://archive.is/mquP5
https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/2023-06-07/ty-article/.premium/tucker-carlson-trafficks-in-antisemitic-tropes-about-ukraines-zelenskyy-on-twitter-debut/00000188-968d-df21-a1b8-b78dff590000
All he said in the first episode was that Ukraine bombed the dam. I guess the owners of Ukraine are Semites so telling of their evil deeds is forbidden.
The creator of the terms “antisemite”, as well as “racist”, was none other than Lev Trotsky. I am sure that he, and other “semite” members of the Komintern, had a focus group on what term was best. The term “semite” has, as you say, the ability to convey a whole ethnic group without losing its meaning of “anti-hebrew”. So it is an ameliorated form of “anti-hebrew”.
It should go without saying that Trotsky, and his buddies, who invented these terms to advance their own power, were not semites at all, but descendants of a southern steppe tribe, the Khazars, who converted to Judaism towards the end of the 800s.
Thank you for this explanation.
So – just technical speaking – and making the preliminary sentence that I disagree with those who criticize entire groups of people,
having said that, and hypothetically speaking, if an Arab or an Ethiopian man makes a speech against Jews, his speech is defined ‘antisemitic’, but in that way it means that he hates also himself and all his relatives, friends and so on?
If that is correct the world should wake up a little bit and change definition…
Anyway, going deep in to the argument of Khazars, it is a complex and interesting chapter of history, which, avoiding preconceptions and a priori theories, it would worth studying with attention, just with the purpose to learn something interesting and fascinating from the historical point of view.
There are aspects that I’ve never heard before and that are really interesting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazars
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Jews
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_Jews
My point was mainly that the term antisemitic has in general a too wide meaning, not technically correct, in my view.
But also that if one makes a negative description of a person (such as the one Carlson made of Zelensky), we should also consider that maybe he is just offending a person for what he is and not for the group he belongs to (if then it is true that he belong to that group).
Having said that, again, I repeat that I personally disagree with any generalization of negative descriptions of any group of people and I consider Jews, Christians, Muslims, Shintoists and Whatever, my brothers and sisters.
Yes, you are correct. In modern Western logic, it is perfectly acceptable to say that the Palestinians are anti-semitic, even though they are semite and those they are against are not.
To simplify the world the Palestinians and Gypsies should be exterminated.
Discuss
Then discuss this hahaha
https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fff282298-b001-4200-b9d4-1c1fc846b316_781x957.png
Former Israeli Minister Shulamit Aloni:
“Anti-semitic”, “it’s a trick we always use it”
Thank you, it is a very heavy phrase.
She must have been a very fair person.
I didn’t know her, she died in 2014 and I think I missed something without knowing her.
This is an article which speaks about her.
I will read it carefully.
From what I see, my impression is that Israeli policies seem to have become more hard/rigid during the years, with the current situation representing a very hard/rigid policy maybe as hard/rigid as at the beginning of the State in 1948.
In Italy we say: ”Onore a Lei”
https://archive.is/uGihC
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/25/world/middleeast/shulamit-aloni-outspoken-israeli-lawmaker-dies-at-86.html
Antisemitic is a standard trope from the playbook to get rid of troublemakers.
Used to good effect against Jeremy Corbyn, who has now been replaced by Keir Starmer, standard issue globalist puppet.
The air is full of smoke! Here in NY we are getting thick smoke from Canada. The weather says it is sunny but it is a dim day. I can smell the smoke even inside.
Thanks to wildfire smoke my solar panels are barely doing anything
Imagine the success that solar panels in India must have. The air tends to be terribly smoggy there. Worse than China, now.
One has to wonder why … the Tear-or-ists … don’t look at these wildfires… and start more of them .. everywhere… during the hot dry summer months…
Makes one wonder if that’s mostly fake as well .. orchestrated … you know – like the Ukey war… like the moon landings … like 911… like WMD… etc etc etc
“We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.” – William J. Casey, CIA Director
(Voxnews)
the not always reliable and often debatable website ‘voxnews’ says that the real counteroffensive seems to have started today close to the very quiet and safe area of ZAPOROZHYE nuclear plant..
The website is questionable, but on Nato-Russia war is most of the time and in some way reliable.
If it is true is a very safe place to make war…
https://voxnews.info/2023/06/07/controffensiva-ucraina-20mila-soldati-e-100-carri-contro-zaporozhye-li-stavano-aspettando/
The world doesn’t need a melted down nuclear power plant, however.
There was a comment about this on Larry Johnson’s site(article below).
The timing, given certain nato build ups, is uncanny, although I think it’s a somewhat unfeasible proposition, considering Russia’s superior artillery and control of the skies.
Ukraine would need nato to place hundreds of planes in adjoining countries to even consider such a move🤔
“4/ 3 day offensive went blank – well let’s continue with the false claims & terror action – introducing Kakhovka dam blow up ….. many months on the cards – actually all the way back to August when Ukraine ‘tried’ to bomb the dam wall & bridge on daily basis for over a month ….. once Russians pulled back from the right bank of Dnieper in Kherson it was put on a back burner …. why? – well it comes down to getting yet another advantage from geographical disruption …. the south part of the Dnieper delta (Russian held) sits lower and it naturally would disrupt any defenses built by Russians if the dam would blow up. That’s however only ‘secondary’ benefit …. There is a much bigger one and that is – as dam would empty in the section above
the dam wall, it would significantly shorten the water distance to be crossed by
Ukrainian amphibian forces which were training last 6 months in the region (reference
history legends channel) – a huge amount of equipment has been sourced for this
effort ….. pontoon bridges brigades in force are ready to cross yet again near or close
to the NPP Zaporhozia.
And this I believe is the main price – if Ukraine could take control of the NPP in the Zaporhozia region and amplify it’s blackmail of nuclear destruction unless 200km around the nuclear plant is declared a ‘safe zone’ – which would of course have to be policed by “UN” …. and thus by default wiping out the ‘land bridge’ Russian has secured over the past year.
5/ this point of course is a “pure speculation” and has not happened yet but if it ever does – it will be as a direct consequence of the point 4! If Ukraine manages to take over the Nuclear Plant in Zaporozhye, it is my believe the UN/(Nato by default) is now standing ready to interfere with ‘peace keeping mission’ …. what they tried & could not do last August/September when the IAE came to inspect and Ukraine attacked the NPP at the same time – hoping to gain control at the same time and announce the above mentioned “peace keeping mission” … they are ‘hell bent’ on destroying the Russian land bridge in order to limit Russia’s access to Crimea … anotherwords Crimea is still the price”
https://sonar21.com/ukraine-yields-to-international-pressure-and-launches-ill-fated-offensive/
(Eventi avversi)
”Digital trials developed during the Covid pandemic. i.e. the terribly famous ‘EU green pass’, will become the standard basis for thr new World Health Organization (WHO) global certification network.”
https://www.eventiavversinews.it/greenpass-ue-diventera-la-base-per-la-rete-di-certificati-delloms/
How awful!
Our ‘health’ will only be certified if we have taken the most unhealthy drugs available.
And we will be deemed, logically, an active ‘danger’ to public health until certified!
Once again I think back to the wild-eyed, bearded, man who popped up, emerging from a wood, in a random YT video in early 2020 exclaiming ‘IT has started!’ Ah, some nut who’s done too much prepping, I thought……
I hope the planned heavy censorship doesn’t make it impossible to communicate with like-minded souls across the globe as we do here, as what they are planning will be enough to drive one mad without some outlet to sanity, if they succeed in imposing this system.
There will be a black market for certificates. Start stockpiling tradeable goods.
(Splash – marittime news)
”Climate crisis is the greatest economic opportunity the world has ever known’: John Kerry”
https://splash247.com/climate-crisis-is-the-greatest-economic-opportunity-the-world-has-ever-known-john-kerry-makes-headlines-at-nor-shipping/
Sure, coming from a man who has never held a real job in his entire life.
The way we were in the US and South America.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVdaFQhS86E
“The girl from Ipanema.”
For me, summer 1964, Madison, wonderful time.
Why do current band members need to dress as though they jumped out of a dumpster?
“”Turn on, tune in, drop out” is a counterculture-era phrase popularized by Timothy Leary in 1966. In 1967, Leary spoke at the Human Be-In, a gathering of 30,000 hippies in Golden Gate Park in San Francisco and phrased the famous words, “Turn on, tune in, drop out”
Short answer from an old man, “It doesn’t work, Harvard idiot.”
Dennis L.
Ah, the good old times. When the favelas in Brazil had no chance against the Establishment which ruled that country for decades.
Again, the only way to maintain stability and order is do as what I have said a few times.
Ipanema means dirty water. It refers to lake behind the bench in Rio. Basically the open septic tank for the area.
My wife and I were married at Tim Leary’s house.
I wonder about population; came across this comment in TM.
“Population growth is only provided by population inertia as people live longer. So is it the decline in the vitality of the population which is causing prosperity decline?”
There have been recent headlines regarding the declining life span of the US population; much of that is probably due to diet which is horrible for most. Birth rate is supposedly below replacement; Japan is leading the way. The earth is a self regulating space ship.
I don’t have time to run the numbers, it shouldn’t be that difficult; what would happen without immigration?
Dennis L.
The United Nations Population Prospects 2022 analysis has a column called “Natural Increase” = Births minus deaths.
The United States was in a positive natural increase situation through 2021, according to this.
Increases recently:
2016 1,237,000
2017 1,098,000
2018 1,021,000
2019 979,000
2020 432,000
2021 442,000
So, 2020 is down a little over 500,000 compared to what to might have been. 2021 exhibited essentially no bounce back up.
Don’t tell FE, population increase invalidates his UEP narrative,
Anyway illegals are more than making up for any drop off in natural increase, so all is well.
Nope – just wait till they release phase two of the Binary Poison.
Population will drop to near 0 … within a very short period of time
UK immigration hit a new record last year with over 600,000 net.
The news articles are really messy, but the basic facts from the ONS are that both EU and British immigration were net minus, and all of the net positive was non-EU immigration.
The biggest sources are India, China and Nigeria.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12123231/Net-migration-hits-new-record-606-000.html
Net inflows hit record 606,000 last year
Long-awaited statistics showed net migration to the UK was 606,000 across 2022. That was far higher than the 488,000 level for 2021 – even though that was upgraded by 91,000 in the latest official publication.
The jump was fueled by arrivals from outside the EU, largely coming to study or work, as well as to seek refuge from chaos in Ukraine, Afghanistan and Hong Kong.
‘The main driver of the increase was people coming to the UK from non-EU countries for work, study and for humanitarian purposes, including those arriving from Ukraine and Hong Kong. For the first time since using our new methods to measure migration, we have also included asylum seekers in our estimates, with around 1 in 12 non-EU migrants coming via this route.
The combined total of 1,472,162 visas in [year from March] 2022-23 is up 53 per cent from 960,133 in 2021-22.
Does this mean a boom housing construction, farm expansion, heating gas imports?
To some extent it is just ‘re-pop’, the maintenance of population levels.
10 million (16.8%) of the population of Britain was born abroad, which is pretty close to the number of abortions in Britain since 1967.
Housing issues are complicated by the decline in marriage. Less than 50% of adults are married here, 10% are ‘in a relationship’ and 40% are single. 1/3 of households are single person occupancy now.
So, migration lies within an already complex socio-economic picture.
Capitalism works through growth, the state has spending commitments decades ahead, pensions, NHS &c., structural debt to service, and if organised British cannot get its workers from the EU, then it will just get them from somewhere else. That was always obvious before the Brexit, but a lot of people fool themselves.
FE is proving himself a genius as long as he is centred by Gail. Amazing how the self organising system works!
lol mark
i’ve been making that point for years
OK, who did it? Who got the comments section banned by Microsoft browser?
I tried opening the comments section on my work laptop whilst on my lunch break only to be greeted by a message from Microsoft kindly telling me that the page I was trying to access is dangerous because it contains mis / disinformation. Main page loads fine. Has never been an issue before today.
I confirm that if I open OFW from browser ‘Microsoft Edge’, which by the way my PC strongly has been trying to recommend lately (and it is difficult for it to accept that I don’t want its suggestion), I receive the same message as indicate by All is Dust.
While, when I open OFW from ‘Opera’ browser it doesn’t happen at all.
On the red screen there is a link to claim it is not spam, I did it, haven’t tried Edge on this computer yet.
Dennis L.
No problem if using Firefox.
I warned that going to happen.
If you let Eddie shit all over the place then the website will just be banned.
It is not the comments section that is particularly banned. It is anything that has OurFiniteWorld.com in it.
I am fairly sure that the problem is that the topic that what I am writing about is controversial. It goes against the grain of the standard narrative saying Renewables Will Save Us.
Also, a major issue may be that I don’t have a “cookies” banner on my website. I don’t think I need one because the site doesn’t use cookies. It is not trying to sell anything or advertise anything. The site is not even asking for donations.
I am discussing the post on a number of other forums, besides Our Finite World. I am talking by email to some folks closely involved with this issue. Linked In has had a fairly active discussion. Energy Central has posted a copy of my article, as has TalkMarkets. While links are out on some Facebook sites, the topic is generally “over the head” of the average Facebook reader. I don’t expect Zerohedge to pick up this post–it is too long and difficult. As a practical matter, most people don’t pay attention to comments on posts.
The Archons minions do not want humanity to awaken from the dream.
Many various tendrils are coming together now to form a trunk that can bear the weight of true reality…….
From 3D resource depletion, to acknowledgement of ancient knowledges foretelling cataclysm for those on the black path, realization that this world is not a bedrock reality, recognizing there are other intelligences involved in this fabrication,…….
It was bound to happen eventually. I hope you can maintain the site longer term as it is a needed respite for many who at least know there is a dramatic change coming now.
For myself, I have had to retreat from the mainstream to continue to exist in this realm, I would be saddened if I lost the ability to follow your thoughts and see the discourse from those scattered through the realm.
I ran into a somewhat similar problem a while ago–a couple of years ago or so. I changed to an updated version of the WordPress “theme” at that time, and it seemed to fix the problem. I don’t think that that time it was someone who had reported the site as unsafe–it was more an issue of links not being quite perfect, or something like that.
“The Archons minions do not want humanity to awaken from the dream.”
“For myself, I have had to retreat from the mainstream to continue to exist in this realm”
Heavy!!
Dude, tend to agree this realm is a cosmic joke, but it’s STILL BAU PARTY TIME BABY!!
Gail, for what is worth, your articles and your blog represent for me the best place to understand what is going on.
Every time someone asks me how I discovered energy and related issues for the world, I suggest this blog.
I agree on your considerations above, you are ‘slightly’ out of the one-way current narrative.
I hope we will not lose the true meaning of what means free of speech and how much it is necessary.
If we blame Iran and China behaviours against citizens we must prove to be better.
Thanks for your thoughts.
I probably should add something to the end of my post, saying something such as “Gail Tverberg is a retired actuary who has investigated the topic of energy and the economy for over ten years. The site is entirely self-funded, assuring an impartial analysis of today’s problems. OurFiniteWorld.com does not use advertisements, and it does not offer a way to contribute to the costs of the site. The site uses no cookies, which is why a person does not encounter a check box regarding cookies upon sign-in.”
BTW Gail, you might not be aware of it but OFW has an awful lot of tracker bots leeching it. Right now my tracker blocker lists 64 of them, among which:
doubleclick.net
edgecastcdn.net
ggpht.com
google-analytics.com
google.com
googleusercontent.com
gravatar.com
gstatic.com
jnn-pa.googleapis.com
translate-pa.googleapis.com
translate.googleapis.com
twitter.com
wordpress.com
wp.com
youtube.com
ytimg.com
You may want to ask some web developer geek to get you rid of that, specially if those corporations running those trackers and making $$$ from it also place obstacles on the way to access OFW…
I am not sure of whether it makes sense to get rid of the tracker bots. The tracker bots aren’t really doing bad things, as far as I can see. The site needs other sites to “see” it, in order that my articles can spread to a wider audience. Translation is important. The fact that google can find it is important. WordPress has to be available to it.
As I have mentioned, I think Gail is right, we are headed over a cliff if you hold technology constant.
But of all the things likely to change, technology is it.
Not that this makes me less uneasy about the future.
But unlike all the dire predictions that have been made since Limits to Growth, the technological singularity looks to be within a decade or perhaps a little more or less.
That’s less time in the future than the first time Gail put up an article of mine about what it would take to build power satellites is in the past. Shiver.
Ask NASA to place fake power satellites in space like they did with the Moon thingy… and tell everyone we’ve got unlimited electricity forever…
the ‘technological singularity’ ignores the laws of physics
just like the terminator movies
machines require energy resources, plus all the minute gizmos that make things move.
machines require ‘purpose’—otherwise they cease to function.
a machine cannot take itself off to proxima centauri of its own volition just to take a look at what might be there…there would be no purpose in doing that.
humankind itself will run out of the necessary energy to fuel its ‘purpose’—we will not possess the necessary industrial base to deliver such flights of fantasy.
just because we possess the mathematical concepts of something, does not mean that that something is feasible in practical terms—humankind has arrived at a biological dead end—the self indulgence of taking ourselves beyond thar by some mechanical means (as yet uninvented) is ludicrous.
“humankind itself will run out”
Have you ever considered how much energy the sun puts out?
Keith
your stock answer is—“sun energy”
I think i’ve exhausted the various ways of saying it —–
energy per se isn’t the problem
the problem is finding ways to convert it into something else.
This is why the Saudis were camel traders for millenia.
They didnt get rich until someone took away their oil and burnt it.
Humankind cannot go on burning fuel ad infinitum, where here or in space,
It would be quite literally pointless.
“the problem is finding ways to convert it into something else.”
Norm, that’s easy. Given a lot of low cost energy we can make it into other forms. For example, we can make gasoline or diesel out of air, water and electric power. Been done. It’s not quite economical yet, but close to the cost of such products made out of natural oil.
I think you are far to pessimistic. You might be correct, but it is not a problem that we can’t, just a question of will we.
The devil is in the details, however. It has to be economical. The necessary materials have to be available. Someone has to advance the money to enable building the device that will do this.
>>>>. Given a lot of low cost energy we can make it into other forms.<<<<<
to quote Hamlet—"Aye, there's the rub..//// what dreams may come////"
And with cheap energy we will have no purpose for it, because it must be converted into 'stuff'' that we buy and sell to one another—that is where our ''living '' comes from.
Ford extracted cheap reources from the earth—converted them into cars, sold the cars to the people doing the 'conversion', dug up more stiff from the earth, —rinse and repeat—
it was suppose to go on forever
sorry—but extracting petrol by converting molecules out of the air will not deliver the same materials
entropy is a one way ticket.
Effectively, what you are suggesting is that if you leave a car to rust away for 50 years, a (cheap) means will be found to reverse the rusting process and put it back together again.
“The devil is in the details”
That’s what we have AIs for. As for money, heh, an AI needed some to hire humans so it figured out some way set up an account. My guess is that we are 5 years or less from the first AI billionaire.
When one reads stuff like this one wonders what the average person thinks on a day to day basis…
And it becomes really easy to understand how a group of highly intelligent people … are able to run the entire world
” ignores the laws of physics”
I have read thousands of pages of material about nanotechnology. I know physics through quantum mechanics and solid state physics.
Nanotechnology is a dense application of physics. You might look up Ralph Merkle on Wikipedia where it says “He is active in the field of molecular manipulation and self-replicating machines and has published books on the subject.”
If you have a serious argument that nanotechnology ” ignores the laws of physics”, I can run it by Ralph.
Keith. A technocratic, totalitarian government is the only way to do it.
“technocratic”
Few weeks ago I asked an AI when they were going to take over the world.
It gave several dats, but the last paragraph was pure PR.
Of course, these are all speculative scenarios and there is no
guarantee that any of them will happen. There are also many ethical,
social and technical challenges that may prevent or delay machines
from taking over the world. Therefore, it is wise to be cautious but
not fearful of the future of AI.
The thing is …
That warning light is a badge of honour… MOREONS will run for the hills when they see that …back to CNNBBC and Huff…
Whereas anyone with any intelligence will see that and immediately realize — there is truth behind that link …
We don’t need anymore MOREONS on OFW so this is an excellent development… what took so long?
F–k Microsoft, Google, FB and all the Big Tech fascists.
Go LINUX.
Some of this is surely wrong:
1– Victoria’s Secret declared bankruptcy. (Partially owned by Jeffery Epstein!)
2– Zara closed 1,200 stores.
3– La Chapelle withdrew 4391 stores.
4– Chanel is discontinued.
5– Hermes is discontinued.
6– Patek Philippe discontinued production.
7– Rolex discontinued production.
We are inside “The Collapse”.
8– The world’s luxury industry has crumpled.
9– Nike has a total of $23 billion US dollars preparing for the second stage of layoffs.
10– Gold’s gym filed for bankruptcy.
11– The founder of AirBnb said that because of the pandemic, 12 years of efforts were destroyed in 6 weeks.
12– Even Starbucks also announced to permanently close their 400 stores.
13– WeWork isn’t in a great spot either.
14– Nissan Motor Co. may close down in USA.
15– Biggest Car Rental company (Hertz) filed for bankruptcy – they also own Thrifty and Dollar.
16– Biggest Trucking company (Comcar) filed for bankruptcy – they have 4000 trucks.
17– Oldest retail company (JC Penny) filed for bankruptcy – to be acquired by Amazon for pennies.
18– Biggest investor in the world (Warren Buffet) lost $50B in the last 2 months.
19– Biggest investment company in the world (BlackRock) is signalling disaster in the world economy – they manage over $7 Trillion.
20– Biggest mall in America (Mall of America) stopped paying mortgage payments.
21– Most reputable airline (Emirates) laying off 30% of workers.
22– US Treasury printing trillions to try to keep the economy on life support. (Acrually they haven’t printed any fiat notes after 2017- u won’t find any dates after 2017)
23– Estimated no. of retail stores closing in 2020 – 12,000 to 15,000.
24–Not all bad news, U-HAUL trucks cannot keep enough inventory to supply the needs of people moving from California to Texas and Florida!! ———-THE FINANCIAL RESTRUCTURE IS WELL UNDERWAY FRIENDS!
A year or two ago I was posting about about difficulty in getting raw materials at the plastic factory and we were going to run out of supplies. Things have changed and now we have too much.. the customers have too much. Everyone was panic buying and stocking due to fear of shortages but now there’s too much everywhere.
Where did this list come from?
2020 by the looks of it. Everything I look up was from several months into the lockup stage.
We need more recent information, then.
Telegram – no source
Amazing fast Eddie we are in the thick of it the collapse looks a certainty for 2023 will we see 2024 friends I hope so
Nearly 200 passengers aboard Celebrity Cruise ship from New Jersey to Bermuda suffered ‘explosive diarrhea’ due to norovirus outbreak
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12166151/Celebrity-Cruise-ship-passenger-crew-suffer-explosive-diarrhea-norovirus-outbreak.html
“If you don’t become the ocean, you’ll be seasick every day.”
― Leonard Cohen
Just a stomach virus. This is something that has happened for a long time on ships.
‘explosive diarrhea’ – is that a new terrorist initiative?
Imagine porky cruise cruise goers exploding – yuuuuuuk!
Now now, FE, you know that lovely women go weak at the knees when Norman the Wordsmith reads his poetry about mother earth, bat viruses and the end of more to them.
It’s just jealousy eating you up….
xabier
those who can—do
those whose cant mock, denigrate and belittle those who can.
it’s straight out of the psychiatrists playbook—your mentor does exactly the same thing—and you are determined to make yourself look just as foolish by parroting his every word.
my advice would be to stick to your bookbinding—doubtless you have a worthwhile skill at that—you notice that i don’t mock it.—to do so would demean me.
As with accusations—they are always confessions in disguise.
in the same way mockery demeans you—but of course you would be oblivious to that—just as your mentor is.
And poetry?—not up to poet laureate level…but yes,I’ve found myself flattered by someone admitting to tears at my words. (your mentor will make much of that!!!)
Perhaps you too should leave aside bookbinding, and try your hand at writing them instead. Storytelling is an artform. Bullshitting is an imposition–have you considered that xabier?
I have still not stumbled over those ”millions of dead and maimed people” you told me about last year.
In the meantime–do try to come up with an original thought—rather than packaging the thoughts of others,
Norman, my dear, that your poetry ‘brought tears to someone’s eyes’ is just too priceless for further comment.
I can do a lot more than fold paper and polish leather, I assure you: I’m a RESTORER darling, do get it right!
Not some lowly, grubby, jobbing binder sticking paperbacks together!
And I was educated just a little, so can presume to comment on even your august productions, even if they flow from so inspired and exalted a pen. Or do you use perhaps a quill for the Shelley-Keats_Wordsworth vibe?
I do look forward – I am sure in common with everyone else – to being favoured with some more of your verse soon: weeping can be, I read, so therapeutic and de-toxifying.
Please don’t disappoint!
a restorer no less
such accomplishment
I threw in the tears thing to bring joy to your response—i was not disappointed. I knew you would be unable to resist.
Have you never wept openly with someone at a WS sonnet?—or at the sound of a Mozart sonata?? Or standing in awe in front of a great painting??—Your reaction to my bait suggests that you have not.
Have you never told an original story from within yourself Xabier? And watched the effect of it? Your mockery suggests that you have not.
Instead of binding words, you should set them free to do great things—someone of such great intellect should use it. As with your mentor, it should not be hidden under a bushel.
As I said, doing is the prerogative of those who can
Mockery and derision is the hallmark of those who can’t.—Twas ever thus.
My words have no pretence to greatness or immortality—-but sometimes—just occasionally, one presses all the right buttons. It is reward enough to be told so,
Derision from one such as yourself confirms my thoughts, and reveals yet another blank page in your book of life as it falls open on the floor.
and the affectations of ‘my dear’ and ‘darling’ is i assume an attempt to elevate yourself into the (imagined) speech patterns of your ‘betters’.
As Shaw succinctly put it: In England one man merely has to open his mouth for another to condemn him.
Few use those words now xabier—they are just soooooooo dated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzQ3gFRj0Bc
Recycling nuclear waste, the final realization of late capitalist death drive.
Btw I’m 99% sure these types of channels have State Dept backing and/or funding. It’s always the same pattern of an over-enthusiastic aging millennial influencer, high production value, 30 sec clips of talking with supposed experts whose profiles aren’t cited anywhere, no primary sources in video description (just news articles linking to other news articles). And the topics/opinions carefully crafted to present viewers with a single, inelucatable choice – die inside, or believe and be pacified.
Hopium for the masses, very unconvincing to others …
Recycling is not economic, as far as I know. It depends upon fossil fuel supplies and international trade, so it is not any more sustainable than anything else.
Russia claims to have closed cycle reactors that can consume nuclear waste as fuel.
Guess we’ll have to wait and see.
There is cute chicks advertising the wonders of the world created by the current elites everywhere on the web and particularly on youtube. so OK this one’s job is to advertise nuclear things, but why get worked up over it? this is as heavy a presentation as the intended audience can muster. nothing to see here.
They’re slowing taking off the mask..
Deer culls credited with green loch wood recovery.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-65820467
Let’s talk about culling….
Now, let’s talk about state-provided euthanasia:
For the terminally ill and vaxxed-injured in great pain.
For the depressed who see no hope.
For the poor who will never make it life.
For the unemployed displaced by AI and the collapse of the discretionary sector, who are just not worth feeding and housing anymore.
For…..YOU!
You see, it just makes sense!
And for every euthanised useless breather, we’ll plant a tree!
Just choose your choice of species from the list today, and know that the earth will be even greener without you!
Depopulation by a thousand cuts.
Funny you should mention culling.
Former archbishop George Carey has come out in favour of euthanasia:
https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/06/07/whatever-happened-to-thou-shalt-not-kill/
We do seem to be in lockstep with all the other countries who are pushing euthanasia and abortion until the day of birth. Almost like there is a plan.
Incidentally Sasha Latypova has told her followers to watch this film entitled From Eugenics to Pandemics. I am placing this link here because it keeps getting taken down, even on platforms like Rumble:
https://m.vk.com/video-198462752_456241034
When the history is put together in this film, it does seem as though our overlords have always been trying to wipe out the great unwashed.
Sometimes they censor for the purpose of wanting people to believe what they censored… is truth.
Very clever the PR Team
Would you rather we just let the petri dish run its course?
I’m not in favour of being culled.
One of my friends took advantage of the California euthanasia law to schedule his cryonic suspension. It went well.
dont quite see how you can have a cryonic suspension in the past tense, until the point of resuscitation
or am i being picky?
“picky”
No, you just are not familiar with the terminology. Suspension is the part of taking someone from warm down to LN2 temp.
Reviving them is a step in the future, post nanotechnology. That’s uncertain, but with the rapid advances in AI, we might be talking a decade or two.
keith have you met Super Snatch and her Fester?
keith
i am perfectly familiar with the terminology
if i am deep frozen with the idea of being thawed out in a few hundred years, the process cannot—as i see it—be deemed successful until i am up and kicking in 2523
Chucking in words like nanotechnology and AI won’t cut it.
they have no meaning or bearing on the subject.
you seem to ignore a critical factor in this cryo caper—it requires a continued supply of cheap surplus energy to sustain it—as does all our ”future”—right now that is looking highly unlikely.
there wont be enough power to keep live people alive, let alone dead ones.
if cryo tech leaves me in a melted mush—AI will not put me back together again.
“cheap surplus energy ”
How cheap? Can you put numbers on it such as cents per kWh or dollars per bbl of oil (synthetic).
keith
you can’t put money numbers on energy
”cheap energy” can only be measured by the amount of work you can extract from, say. a ton of coal or barrel of oil, relative to the energy you have to put in to get hold of it,
back in the 1930s, say, the USA had so much oil, they didnt know what to do with it, so it was used as the driving force behind the ‘new deal’—
ie….oilburning=employment.
it worked—but only for a limited period. Luckily one A. Hit ler ended the great depression, and created entire new markets for fossil fuels. (The driving force of WW2)
It also created the ‘American Dream’—(which was supposed to be non-negotiable btw)
That dream is now a nightmare because the cheap surplus energy that powered it is running out.
so we created debt to cover the shortfall, and pretend oil is abundant to everyone. (aka infinite growth)—it just isn’t going to happen.
right now, there is no shortage of oil, it just costs more in energy terms to get hold of.
because of that, there is less, year on year, available to support BAU.
This is where collapse will come from—and why i keep banging on that ‘space energy’ or whatever—just isn’t going to cut it.—it simply costs too much to get hold of.
Humankind has lived through a 300 year anomaly—it’s over.
Excellent outcome for the already brain dead
you would be an excellent judge of that eddy
Do not cull deer introduce wolves.
Strike back against D Mor. https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/79576
San Francisco’s biggest hotels — Hilton San Francisco Union Square and Parc 55 — has stopped mortgage payments and plans to give up the two properties.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/san-frans-cre-apocalypse-citys-two-biggest-hotels-have-defaulted
Somehow, it is easy to believe that San Francisco’s biggest hotels are defaulting on debt.
Where is John Galt going to take a stand?
more on SF:
Out of 203 retailers open in 2019 in the city’s Union Square area, just 107 are still operating, a drop of 47 percent in just a few pandemic-ravaged years.
Among the heavy hitters, Brooks Brothers, Ray Ban, Christian Louboutin, Lululemon and Marmot have all packed it in.
Another 12 new retailers have opened in the area since the pandemic began in 2020 but already two have them have either closed or plan to shut down.
Williams-Sonoma also announced it will shut down in 2024.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12165817/The-owner-San-Franciscos-two-largest-hotels-STOPS-making-payments-725-million-loan.html
Spare a thought for the shoplifters, they’ll be out of a job. Given that most of them are a certain colour, it sounds like another white supremacist plan to entrench discrimination.
Down with the patriarchy! Demolish all the statues!
Scantily clad ‘witches’ caught munching on deer carcass in bizarre security cam footage
https://www.fox7austin.com/news/scantily-clad-witches-caught-munching-on-deer-carcass-in-bizarre-security-cam-footage
oh deer.
Fake.
D- Moralization
exactly
Why do witches have to be overweight? I am not happy about it.
I’m picturing toothless hags resembling super snatch flashing their Festers … and dancing around the carcass — while norm watches — stroking his banjo
Eddy, we need to have a talk.
I share your concern.
I wonder one thing,
if one is not allowed anymore to stay topless hidden in a forest,
what are we allowed to do?
Just lock ourselves in a closet?
🙂
This is funny hahaha
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2023-06-06/crypto-bombshell-sec-takes-aim-major-player-whats-next-bitcoin
Another one of my paranoid digressions: On the IRS tax returns for at least the past two years, the IRS asks “did you buy or sell any cryptocurrencies? Soon it will be : “Do you own any cryptocurrencies?”
Just as the SCOTUS ( Chief Justice Roberts) allowed Obama to foist the Affordable Care Act (wealth extraction) on Americans by justifying it as a “tax,” I suspect like cryptocurrencies, gun control will eventually be implemented by declaring a tax on guns. But it doesn’t violate the 2A they will say, because it is a tax, when it will be more than that. It will be a confirmatory registry when the IRS asks initially “did you purchase or sell any firearms?” Same MO for a registry for those who who might buy or sell precious metals. It will start out with buying or selling cryptos, or precious metals, or firearms just like you buying or selling equities or your home.
Then it will become, do you OWN any cryptos, PMs, or firearms?
Registration first, then confiscation.
Once they have eliminated cryptos, cash, PMs, guns, the real tyranny will follow, starting with food, travel, and energy.
I totally concur with your assessment. But, do you want depopulation yes or no? You can only answer yes.
One purpose of crypto currencies is to try to avoid taxes, I expect. The government would like its share of any revenue gained using crypto currencies.
Chinese people have been known to use crypto currencies to work around restrictions on taking assets out of the country, according to some things I have heard.
food and travel are just alternative words for energy
they will be eliminated through lack of surpluses, not through political intent
though of course the great mass of unthinkers (aka stup id) will insist that it is the result of political shenanigans by that great elusive body—the elite….or ”the elders”—or just plain ”they” (never we)
We will demand political solutions, where there are none.
then we will start killing each other, to prove that the problem is a political one.
Much better to kill Russians than each other is the essence of the Collective West’s political solution . . . dare I say final solution?
Unfortunately plan A isn’t going too well and they haven’t dreamed up a plan B yet.
More sanctions could fix things though. Either that or ship more military junk to Ukraine.
Isn’t adding cryptocurrencies an attempted way to add more “demand” to the economy. Low valued electricity (for example, unwanted wind and solar energy) can be turned into something that can be sold to others. It can also be used as the basis for more debt, thereby adding further to demand.
Those creating cryptocurrencies are earning fairly high incomes, in the process, also adding to demand for goods and services.
Schads
Love Island star in medical emergency as paramedics rush to Mallorca villa on first night
https://thechadrabbit.substack.com/p/the-rise-of-the-medical-emergency-7ec
‘America’s Got Talent’ winner Michael Grimm in intensive care following mystery health issue
https://www.tmz.com/2023/06/06/americas-got-talent-winner-michael-grimm-sedated-hospitalized-mystery-health-issue/
the long-term prognosis is grim.
keith – norm – mystery??? What could the mystery be???
discuss
Michael Grimm, famous for taking home the title on “America’s Got Talent” season 5, is sedated and in intensive care after a mystery health issue.
The singer’s wife, Lucie Zolcerva-Grimm, says Michael has been hospitalized since Memorial Day and remains unconscious, though he’s finally breathing on his own again.
Michael’s wife says the root of the issue is not clear … but he had not been feeling well for a while, lacking energy and having a tough time finishing his recent performances.
She says things reached a head last month when he became increasingly sick. Michael’s wife says he could barely walk and couldn’t lift his head, so she rushed him to the emergency room, where things got worse.
Michael’s wife says his blood pressure skyrocketed when he got to the ER and he started talking gibberish, so he was rushed to the ICU … where he remains.
Doctors put Michael on a ventilator and sedated him, his wife says, and he’s only recently been taken off the ventilator … though he’s still sedated.
Michael’s wife says most of his upcoming shows this month have been canceled … noting he will not only need to regain consciousness but also undergo physical therapy because he’s been bedridden for over a week.
What’s more, she says Michael has no voice and will have to undergo vocal chord repair due to his time on a ventilator. While the situation sounds dire, Michael’s wife says fans shouldn’t panic because he has great doctors.
Kenya Moore, ‘Real Housewives of Atlanta’ star, rushed to hospital after numbness, difficulty breathing
https://thegrio.com/2023/06/06/kenya-moore-rushed-to-hospital/
Trust me .. the MORE-ONS are not suspecting anything… I have been amongst them and they think this is just normal stuff.
Just ask norm and keith
They are indeed morons: it’s just about planning the next holiday, or doing up their houses, no serious issues ever impinge on their tiny brains – they seem crazy for those holidays now, which suits me perfectly as I only want to see their backs. If only they could be one-way tickets……
Purely anecdotal, but I’ve never seen so many ambulances on the road as in the last few weeks. Never in over 20 years here. Hmm, heat wave? Shovelling snow? Delayed over-excitement at the Coronation? What could it be?
Also the air ambulance is busier, in so far as I can judge by flights over my house: it’s run by someone who was a friend in student days, we lost touch but I’ll try to contact him to see if I can get some details. He used to be a straight-talking, clear-thinking Scot, but may of course have gone over to the Dark Side.
The local news is strangely silent, though. And I know old farts with about 6 shots in them skipping about like our darling old Norman with not even a pain at the injection site. A young neighbour almost lost an eye , and is now unable to work, sick and depressed. Many more people about using walking sticks, far too young to be in need of hip replacements.
It’s a dream come true… like winning the lottery… I’m really pleased that the MOREONS did not connect the dots!!
More Booster.
It’s fascinating, and somewhat appalling, to discover that most people are not even up to sub-rocket science analysis of the world around them.
You could take them, handcuffed, into a room with a guillotine in it and the penny wouldn’t drop until their head was in the yoke and the priest had made the sign of the cross over them….
I see the same thing here in the capital of the People’s Republic of Kanada. Last week there was one day where three ambulances went by with their lights on … before noon on my street that’s a half km long. I rarely leave the house without seeing an ambulance’s lights.
I’ve also noticed an uptick in people with canes and walkers whom are way younger that I would’ve expected in say 2020 …
I think the shots hit those whom are older or fatter less ‘hard’ than the younger and fitter crowd. My fittest uncle got the turbo cancer last summer and passed away before the treatment plan could even be developed. A co-workers neighbor died in their sleep (at 39!) which again I’d never heard of happening before 2020 …
I worry about the spike protein shedding, especially with my kiddo given we’re in a highly highly-vexxed area.
Also women don’t smell very good anymore. It’s so rare for me to come across a women that smells nice (like not perfume her body odour) it’s like my brain knows they’re sick on the inside … can’t explain it.
I have two different memorial services for people who died that I should be going to this Sunday afternoon. They are in different cities, so I can’t possibly go to both. I don’t think the death were particularly vaccine related, however.
19 people died in the last four months (out of 460 residences on this mail route).
https://twitter.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1666623130721304579
She says 4 residents per household (sounds a little high, but I guess it would depend on the area). 460×4=1840. 19 over 4 months is 57 if annualized. 57/1860= 3%, compared to normal US mortality rate of about 1% (if this account is reliable).
Gail, could you help out if you see this?
I got that 1% rate from the CDC (“Death rate: 1,043.8 deaths per 100,000 population”):
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm
But that doesn’t make any sense, because on the same page, they list a life expectancy of 76.4 years. Even if life expectancy were to be rising (which it isn’t), how do they arrive at such a low death rate?
Is it too simplistic to think that a yearly death rate of 1/100 means an average life expectancy of 100?
I am guessing that the 1% rate applies to the mix of age groups that the US currently has. Death rates are quite high for newborns and for ages 75+, but for a lot of the lower age groups, they are very low.
The mix of people alive today includes a lot of people who are not likely to die in the next year.
Real? Fake? Mass D? Who can know … so much is fake it’s impossible to tell
https://t.me/leaklive/14573
My parents would never let children in our family have play guns. They felt that nothing good could come of them.
Toy guns and tanks and little plastic soldiers. Training Generals young.
And more good news
What Are Older Office Towers Worth in the New Era? Second San Francisco Office Tower Sells for 70% Off Original Listing Price
https://wolfstreet.com/2023/06/05/what-are-older-office-towers-worth-in-the-new-era-second-san-francisco-office-tower-sells-for-over-70-off-original-listing-price/
Also from Zerohedge:
https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/arctic-silk-road-comes-alive-russia-sends-first-lng-tanker-asia-year ‘Arctic Silk Road’ Comes Alive As Russia Sends First LNG Tanker To Asia This Year
Send the natural gas to Asia, where the manufacturing people in Asia do will give some chance of paying for the natural gas. I expect the natural gas price will have to be high to make the shipping such a long distance worthwhile.
Again … no debris… https://sagehana.substack.com/p/what-happened-to-flight-93
What happened to the engines etc norm?
Nearly all commenters on Substack, let alone the authors, are energy and resource-blind – it’s quite pathetic to contemplate.
‘Why now? Why this?’ etc, with no hope of ever discovering the answer, the true motivation.
Truly the fish who don’t know what water is….
Agreed. I greatly value Mike Yeadon’s expertise in the biological sciences yet he doesn’t seem to realise that we’ve burned through ~55% of the oil and we seem to be up shit creek without a paddle.
Nate Hagens should interview him. That could be interesting. They’d both educate each other.
Mike also insists population is not a problem
the thing is … he says he’s read Perfect Storm … so you’d think he’s have had his epiphany
It’s an understandable emotional block: hard resource and energy limits imply that their families are probably at a dead-end or are at least in for great suffering even if the Cabal elites are defeated in their machinations.
The funniest ones are those who argue that ‘over-shoot’ for humans is impossible even in theory, that resource depletion can ever be a problem for the clever ape – nuts!
Would I think so clearly on the issue if I had children or beloved grandchildren? I doubt it.
Even now, I occasionally wish it all away.
I’m quite keen on the train ramming into BAU … I am fond of mentioning when folks get a bit anxious about the inflation/interest rates thing that I am sure glad I got my 10 years of bucket listing in … usually they are the same people who referred to me as chicken little….
I long for the moment of realization … when everything goes to 0.
Shell Shock.
come now Xabier—don’t let that deter you
on numerous occasions you have told me how i should interact with my various lines of offspring.
As expected… they turn away from the truth
‘The truth is a lion, let it defend itself’ they like to say: yes, a wild beast that will probably tear you to shreds if you approach it. It makes a meal of fragile hopes and vain delusions….
From Zerohedge:
Kiev’s Long-Term “Last Resort” Plan To Blow-Up The Kakhova Dam Exposed
More information in the article.
Tucker Carlson and the blown up dam story.
https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1666203439146172419
thank you
One of the few saying something different than one-way news.
Excellent analysis on solar and wind, Gail
Just, I live in the United Kingdom where solar and the world’s largest offshore wind are providing 50%+ of the nation’s overall electricity needs, for a record last quarter energy output from the renewables of solar and wind .Furthermore last year, a green hydrogen from the offshore wind is to be stored as a meansfor a strategic energy reserve and intermittency issues from said renewables.
Additionally, we have 0% coal for electricity production, although it’s on standby due to the obvious ongoing global energy crisis.This is the first time since the UK was the largest consumer and producer of coal just before WW1, not least since the start of the industrial revolution itself.
Just I would beg to differ on the strategic area around the North sea for wind feasibility. The UK has 2035 for100%+ renewable energy and green industrial hydrogen electrolyser storage across multiple zones across the British Isles. The UK is working with the EU countries mutually for the same goal, this especially with the current geopolitical economic zeitgeist.
My expectation is that the UK’s arrangement will be too expensive and too variable. It won’t help the UK grow food, either.
Is that 100% green for ALL energy or just a goal for electric?
How much of ALL energy is green today?
In the UK approximately 18% of energy consumed is electricity. So renewables provided 50% of 18…..the princely sum of 9% of our energy.
Big wow.
It’s not going to stop us from starving.
Mrs S, I hope you are not in a city.
Indeed i am not.
A true believer.. I can’t be bothered to mock this nonsense
Someone else do it
I don’t know much about the UK, are you telling me these renewables are what is keeping the UK’s food and energy inflation so low and why the UK is a rising power on the world stage?
The sun never sets on the empire!
” … solar and the world’s largest offshore wind are providing 50%+ of the nation’s overall electricity needs …”
Jamie, if you cared to have a look at official facts, the UK electricity generation can be monitored here
gridwatch.co.uk/
if you click on the label meters it gives all the live output sources in percentages. At this very minute wind provides 15% and solar zero. Monitor it, my lad, for another version of “truth”
looking at the companion webpage
gridwatch.co.uk/int
shows the sources of imported elecrticity. Typically the UK imports about 12% net of its demand. Watching this site regularly for over a year, I’ve only once ever observed the UK net exporting, at about 3% of its output.
…”where solar and the world’s largest offshore wind are providing 50%+ of the nation’s overall electricity needs,”
My understanding is that solar provides close to zero of the UK’s electricity needs. Can you provide any links that would prove me wrong?
When the wind is not blowing, the UK’s electricity supplies are provided mostly by natural gas. The UK is ‘running out’ of natural gas, whilst our overseas supplies are at best unreliable. Why not mention these points?
james got paid for posting that and has moved on … that’s how it works…
Yaay go green baby. EVs for everyone.
Green hydrogen is defo the road to take to get back to the Land of Hope and Glory.
Inflation – for Q1, at 7.0%, above the expectation of 6.9% – has become an intractable problem. The dynamics are practically everywhere the same, including in Australia: While energy prices plunged, and inflation in goods backed off, inflation has shifted to services, and services are the biggest part of the economy, and inflation has moved into wages that are surging to keep pace with rising consumer prices, but without matching productivity gains.
“Recent data indicate that the upside risks to the inflation outlook have increased and the Board has responded to this,” the RBA said.
https://wolfstreet.com/2023/06/06/reserve-bank-of-australia-first-central-bank-to-pause-then-un-pause-hikes-again-warns-of-more-hikes-qt-continues/
YES!!! They are beginning to realize they are f789ed hahaha…
Let’s have the Binary Poison
cool.
this inflation is just the self-organizing economic system self-adjusting itself to the new reality of decreasing surplus energy.
less energy flow through the system means the system must get smaller.
inflation is just the mechanism of choice to shrink the system, which = making the average person poorer.
there are too many financial obligations/debt/pensions etc that can’t retain their value because the energy supplies won’t be there in the former abundance to allow these things to keep their value.
TM does a great job of explaining this, that there is now a greater than ever disconnect between the real primary energy economy and the secondary financial economy.
but you know that already, as you slowly and carefully read through each and every article by TM.
slooooow energy decline = slooooow economic decline.
oh look, Q2 of 2023 is almost over and done.
It’s all good till you can’t pay your heating and food bills — and you lose your job.
yes the 2030s are going to be brutal.
There are indeed, far too many promises relative to what can actually be produced by the world economy.
I would not count on “slooooow energy decline = slooooow economic decline.”
Debt bubble pop is not necessarily slow. Financial system problems are not necessarily slow. It may take a while for a plan to be worked out to move away from the US$, but some countries could come out worse than others.
Decline rates we read about are based on continued investment in oil fields, to keep oil supply coming out. If this continued investment stops, for example, because of broken supply lines or because of financial system problems, then production could drop off more quickly.
Gail,
Everything you listed is a possibility.
Earth, our spaceship needs a break or we perish; depopulation is too terrible for me to contemplate. That leaves space, pollute at will use the ultimate planet fill, Jupiter, use fusion directly from the source, mine minerals directly from the source and move everything in a frictionless environment using gravity from the planets and sun – that is how the planets were arranged to their present orbits.
It appears we cannot use more energy on earth without irreversibly heating everything, boiling the frog.
Elon is building at a furious pace in Texas, if it doesn’t work he tears it down and builds again. Starships which have yet to achieve orbit are continuously being built, a launching pad which has thrown boulders of concrete into the next county is being rebuilt from the ground up while still standing. This money is coming from somewhere, someone knows TINA; go for it.
Dennis L.
“… to allow these things to keep their value.”
Agreed, isn’t that deflation? It is in part clever semantics on my part, but the underlying deflation is in the physical assets represented by the financial ones. None of the stuff makes surplus energy or there is no surplus energy for them to use.
Dennis L.
Reserve Bank of Australia, First Central Bank to “Pause,” then “Un-Pause,” Hikes Again, Warns of More Hikes. QT Continues
https://wolfstreet.com/2023/06/06/reserve-bank-of-australia-first-central-bank-to-pause-then-un-pause-hikes-again-warns-of-more-hikes-qt-continues/
I guess inflation remains a problem …. string pushing
Doing the same things that the US seems to be trying. I see QT in the mix also.
Multiple freight trains are racing towards BAU fuelled by years of stimulus … Central Banks are slamming on the breaks… but the train continues to increase speed.
Take a guess how this story ends.
Humpty Dumpty…
Death to the great satan.
Shelling? https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/79552
I’m keen to see what happens if the folks properly attack the cops… https://t.me/leaklive/14562
And heeeeeere’s Tucker https://t.me/VigilantFox/9481
She could just get onto Grindr every day and find someone to dilate her… https://t.me/TommyRobinsonNews/48502
If you watch you will be Mass D’ed
Lots of large military aircraft in the air over the past three days. I a near Stewart Air Force Base in Newburgh, New York.
Any idea what is happening?
My impression is this happens during the build up phase before the shooting starts.
Bingo Ed.
Air Defender 23 starts in a few days and nato claim it will be the largest deployment exercise in their history.
So, in the present heated situation, where would you hold it?
“Participating Air Forces will be exposed to training scenarios simulating a NATO Article 5 scenario, i.e. collective defence of Alliance territory. Following the arrival and bed-down of incoming US reinforcements and other Allied aircraft at three hubs in Germany Jagel/Hohn in Schleswig-Holstein, Wunstorf in Lower Saxony and Lechfeld in Bavaria as well as Spangdahlem in Rhineland-Palatinate, Volkel in the Netherlands and Čáslav in the Czech Republic, the participants will practice Composite Air Operations (COMAOs) in training areas over Germany and conduct so-called out-and-back missions into the Baltic States and Romania.”
https://ac.nato.int/archive/2023/AD23_announcement.aspx
Lots and lots of NATO planes, that have the ability to fire long range, stand off missiles, near the Russian border. All you’d need to do is give Ukraine a few F16s and you have potential cover.
If that doesn’t do it, by mid July, the food war will be back with a bang. So much to fear, or cheer, depending on your take of things.
The last two world wars started in late July and early September, respectively. I would favor early September again for the next one, as the Elites won’t want to miss their summer holidays.
Also, I would expect the next world war to start in 2024 rather than 2023. They will want to get the Paris Olympics out of the way first. So it’s early September 2024. Save the date!
if it’s C-5 or similar planes, then they are probably loaded for taking military supplies to Europe.
the US is giving away billion$ of (old outdated) military “aid” to Europe, so it needs to be flown there.
Hi Ed,
Last summer I lived just east of Cold Spring.
Saw a lot of Air National Guard C130s getting air time.
Could this be the same?
Or as David noted, are these C-5As?
Thanks and good health, Weogo
Yes, I expect it is. Still in the area?
I am amazed that people with this sort of surgery are not aware of the fact that it makes them look worse https://t.me/TommyRobinsonNews/48501 Wait for it
Mass D – that politician takes orders from the Ministry of Truth and he has a hot poker up his arse to ensure he doesn’t laugh https://t.me/TommyRobinsonNews/48498
I was not aware he was dead https://palexander.substack.com/p/what-or-who-killed-dr-professor-arne
Mike Yeadon next?
He was 79. His face doesn’t make him look like he was in exceptionally good condition. Lots of things could have killed him off.
hahahaha!!!!
https://youtu.be/k_EK7G6e7QI
Seems like the health problems among pilots has spiked
“spiked”… I see what you did there.
well played.
Burned Alive: The Skin, The Endothelium, The Spike Protein and Spike Protein Disease/Acute/Long COVID
If we look at the endothelium as the skin, all can be explained by surface area “burns” (injury).
This is a very important post.
Building upon my previous work, noting the parallels between burn injury and Spike Protein Disease/Severe COVID and Long COVID an important realization came to mind. Severity of burn injury is not only related to Degree of burn, but also Surface Area of the burn.
To begin, let us look at the Endothelium and the Skin.
Endothelial cells (ECs) form the lining of all blood and lymphatic vessels within the vascular tree. The adult human body contains at least one trillion endothelial cells, which weigh more than 100 g and cover a surface area of more than 3000 square meters.
https://wmcresearch.substack.com/p/burned-alive-the-skin-the-endothelium
And how did this person pass the vetting process?? It did – they wanted a freak for the role — Mass D
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/bidens-fired-non-binary-energy-official-sam-brinton-is-released-from-jail-after-third-luggage-theft/ar-AA1c2zAy
Then there’s norm’s hero – Joe and the son …
Early days of Covid and I was asking a friend why the Swedes are not dying like flies… given they did not lockdown…
The response he gave me was — it’s cuz so many Swedes live by themselves so they don’t spread covid + most of them are locking themselves down even though it’s not official….
I send him a photo of thousands of people on a busy main street walking along without a care in the world.
I didn’t hear from him after that.
It’s the same situation with — why doesn’t Putin throttle back the gas to the EU?
Feel free to give me a nonsense reason – best nonsense reason wins a gold medal
the war is clearly above your paygrade.
keep posting the covid/vax links though.
it makes up for your war nonnsense.
Hear, hear!
When will Putin throttle back the gas to the EU causing mass riots resulting in Russia friendly governments?
(Financial Times + Washington Post)
FT: ”The US was informed that Ukraine’s military was plotting to blow up the Nord Stream pipelines months before mysterious explosions destroyed Russia’s conduit for gas sales to Europe, according to The Washington Post.
The information, cited in a leaked US intelligence report, came from a friendly European nation’s intelligence services, the Post reported(opens a new window) while declining to name the country.
The detailed intelligence, which the US received three months before the explosions, matches some pieces of evidence unearthed by the inconclusive probes into the assault on Europe’s energy infrastructure.”
https://archive.is/HtqFJ
https://www.ft.com/content/d60ae893-c251-4693-ac75-4133bb05b2d1
WP: https://archive.is/mwyuI
moonofalabama:
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/06/another-dubious-leak-promotes-the-nord-stream-cover-up-story.html#more
this “story” is based on the second batch of “leaks” that came out after the first batch in April.
because the first batch was authentic and damaging to the US, a second batch was then released, full of US propaganda, as a psyop to distract from the first batch.
this “Ukraine’s gonna blow up NS” story is a bogus coverup ploy, because it’s so obvious that the US was behind the blowup of NS.
FT and WP are equally obvious outlets for US disinformation.
govs and media are tied together in their woketard corrruption.
Surely I don’t expect that there is the truth there.
What it is interesting to take note about is that it seems a way to take some ‘distance’ from the current Ukraine’s government.
It probably means that they are thinking about some sort of plan B to start some kind of negotiation.
The level of stupidity here is really next level. I even saw the story on RT. “We didn’t do it, the Ukrainians did!” Right. And Seymour Hersh is a tabloid journalist who just makes up proven false stories like My Lai and Abu Ghraib. Putting this out just conclusively proves that they did it.
There’s nothing wrong with a bit of hypocrisy in foreign affairs
Why didn’t the US tell Germany and Russia?
Deflation has us boxed in!
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/the-us-is-in-a-cardboard-box-recession-that-s-pointing-to-a-sharp-fall-in-inflation-by-the-end-of-the-year/ar-AA1cd6dT?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=2d6881e65a49446185cd70d706c90b4b&ei=13
US is not using sufficient boxes, probably as good a guess as any.
Not interested in being right, interested in getting it right.
Dennis L.
People buying food at higher prices. Going on some trips, also. Not much left over to buy the things that are shipped in cardboard boxes.
I’m on a list of a company that sells flower bulbs… usually they run out of stock … not this year… received multiple emails promoting 40%
Oh – and the one year interest rate for a fixed mortgage is now 6.99%.
Triple what it was at the lowest point.
That sure takes the wind out of the sail.
I’ve never lived through a massive deflation, or hyperinflation for that matter.
yes, cardboard box production has been a leading economic indicator.
but in my numerous Amazon deliveries, their usage of heavy duty plastic bags seems to have increased quite a bit in proportion to decreased cardboard boxes, so cost savings rule the day.
anyway, bring it on, que sera sera.
maybe 2024 will have massive deflation of prices or hyperinflation of currencies.
ooh, that might be a quite profound experience to have.
whistling past the graveyard today, baby, so might as well throw in some nukes and head for WW3 while they’re at it.
the near future might be chock full of novelty.
> Disaster Day in Ukraine: Kakhovka Dam Destroyed, Ukraine Suffers Heavy Defeat, Incl 8 Leopard Tanks
Bollywood meets Zelensky . Recruitment video for drone operators .
https://twitter.com/i/status/1665598735743700992
LOL
Zelensky started as a clown and he is ending as one?
At least he gave us some laughs?
What more should we expect from him?
it’s a fake war. Obviously
They are laughing at everyone who thinks it’s real
During the planning they said — ok — let’s find the biggest f789tard possible and recruit him as the leader…. they surfed YT and found this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oua0Puihrkc
Excellent. Offer him some money and lots of cocaine and get him to sign the NDA now
They are all laughing at your hysterical paranoid delusions.
More likely they are applauding my ability to identify the scam
Interesting way of doing things!
The range between the controller and the drone is limited about 1000m. Just ignore the Russian artillery and hyperbaric bombs.
Alexander says that no one knows who blew up the dam, but Ukraine would seem to have much more of a motive for blowing up the dam than Russia. Blowing up the dam would deprive Crimea of water. Also, the flooding would be mostly in Russian held territory.
Hang on .. but I thought Russia was not taking the gloves off cuz they did not want to inconvenience civilians… and they don’t throttle the gas cuz that’s not fair…
If they have the gloves off why not fire cruise missiles at all the dams… all the power plants … they could use the same type that hit the Pentagon during 911.
Is it a war — or just a semi war?
Russia has always claimed it is a semi war a special military operation.
Makes sense .. your very existence is threatened… but you decide to fight a semi war…
Or is that an advance excuse to explain away the CGI war-lite situation that we are observing?
I suppose Putin doesn’t want to appear rude and cut of the gas to NATO EU…
And the Rat Juice is safe and effective.. and there were WMD… and a jet ploughed into the pentagon leaving zero debris … https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/79526
Like all that
another take on it from Brussels
“According to Russian reports, their own Vostok units with assistance from air cover and artillery “destroyed” (the current euphemism for “slaughtered”)1500 Ukrainian “live personnel” (current euphemism for “troops”) and destroyed 17 tanks, including 7 German Leopards, as well as armored personnel carriers and other vehicles and field weapons. This was a scandalous defeat and loss of human life in a hopeless offensive being waged only for the purpose of shaking out more money and arms from the Western sponsors of the Kiev regime. As the stories of flooding near Kakhovka and further downstream are amplified by our media, there is the hope that no one will notice the military defeat.”
gilbertdoctorow.com/2023/06/06/the-ukrainian-army-is-run-not-by-the-generals-but-by-the-pr-department/
They’ve even included the coordinates!!!
Name Power (MW) Location Coordinates
Dnieper Hydroelectric Station 1,500 Zaporizhia
47°52′10″N 35°05′10″E / 47.869444°N 35.086111°E / 47.869444; 35.086111 (Dnieper Hydroelectric Station)
https://www.jagranjosh.com/general-knowledge/list-of-hydroelectric-power-stations-in-ukraine-1368425339-1
Ok … so it’s war … and blowing up power plants is not a war crime .. it’s allowed…
Each week you blow up another one … till you get what you want.
I should be Putin’s war minister… if that doesn’t work we reduce the gas to the EU…
make sense????
Blowup water supply and sewage treatment then let disease kill them off.
I wouldn’t call “destroyed” a euphemism for “slaughtered” in this particular context. Although it’s a matter of personal preference.
A euphemism is a mild or indirect word or expression substituted for one considered to be too harsh or blunt when referring to something unpleasant or embarrassing.
“Destroyed” is pretty harsh, blunt and accurate as in: end the existence of (something) by damaging or attacking it.
If they’d have written “processed” or “depopulated”, as factory farmers sometimes do when describing animal slaughters, or “sent them to their maker” or “liquidated them” or “bumped them off” or “blew them away” or “removed them from the game”, I would rate that as euphemistic.
But “destroyed” is up there with “exterminated”, eradicated”, “annihilated”, and only a notch below “massacred”.
However, what happened to these soldiers and to hundreds of thousands of their fellows was horrific and abominable. And it looks set to go on happening into the indefinite future with no end in sight. Because, even if they run out of Ukrainians, we have to assume the US/UK/EU-based warmongers have several other East European nations lined up that they plan to induce to join in the fighting.
of course, the “destroyed” we are reading in English is a translated Russian word.
I wonder if there are any subtle nuances to the actual Russian word.
anyone know this Russian word?
Humans have no value .
I have no problem reducing human population by , say, 90%. I don’t really mind if I am going to be on the side of the eliminated, although chances are I won’t be in there.
Humans don’t deserve to be treated with dignity. Except for those with means, humans are fit to be treated like dirt, maimed,mutiliated and killed if they do bad.
In war stories, there is always some story of a terrified medic, less than 20 years old, marking the wrong leg to amputate so a hapless soldier loses both legs. However, the story ends there. The medic won’t tell his mistakes, the medical officer will shut up, and the soldiier goes home with a more bleaker future.
The story has to end with the angry medic putting a bullet to the medic’s neck, making the medic quadriplegic and become a burden to his family and he paying for his mistake for the rest of his life, although in the old days they would simply let him starve to death.
A young life effectively ending because of a mistake, which is how to treat humans who f’k up.
“I don’t really mind if I am going to be on the side of the eliminated, although chances are I won’t be in there.”
dude, I don’t think I’ve ever encountered more myopia.
in the year 2100, when the population might be 90% lower, you’re not going to be around.
and the Singularitty is scifinonsense.
meanwhile, in Reality, the sun is shining today, I hear many birds singing, the windows are open, no need for heating or A/C, short sleeve shirt weather.
the Universe is unfolding exactly as it should.
I have no need for alternative history speculation.
the history of the Universe has been perfect right up to today.
your family lost its land, how perfect is that, eh?
someone had to be you, so it’s perfect that you are you.
though the sheer magnitude of joy in all of your posts is almost too much.
but it’s not for me to ask you to tone it down.
anyway, onward to human extinction.
I intended to write “The Medical Officer shooting a bullet to the medic” above.
Birds are just airplane hazards. John Audubon did a huge disservice for the aviation industry; without Audubon no one would have said a word about birds. I try not to listen to birds wherever I go. The world lived without birds for billions of years, and if they all go away there will be something else.
Humans might go extinct but the top of them will transform into something else, if we are lucky.
Some people like to eat birds, particularly chickens, but also duck and geese. Humans need food.
Humans are a disgrace. Exterminate all of them
Kulm and Eddy, this looks like it could be the kind of movie you two would enjoy with popcorn.
Maybe, or perhaps a work in progress. As the little boy once said, “God is not finished with me yet.”
The universe is very messy and nothing seems to be very direct; as a manufacturing planet it would be a total failure what with incredible waste of resources to produce us.
Dennis L.
Humans have no value.
Kulm is human.
Kulm has no value.
And why would anyone listen to a creature that has no value and just talks nonsense? Nightingales also only talk nonsense, but at least they have the courtesy to do it in a sweet voice.
So, learn to sing or shut up.
Kulm is AI under testing mode
I suspect the same, not least because it would fit perfectly with his vox of a cultivated ignoramus.
But if K. is a bot, I hope it’s a surrealist model, as that alone would make somewhat acceptable the excessive amount of nonsense it utters.
Failure To Cower shall not go unpunished.
“Journalists Are Asking Ukrainian Soldiers To Hide Their Nazi Patches, NYT Admits”
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/journalists-are-asking-ukrainian-soldiers-hide-their-nazi-patches-nyt-admits
Good idea. Nazi’s no longer popular in NATO.
Anyone know why they displayed Nazi patches at all?
Why wouldn’t NATO have said from the beginning – hey guys — lose the patches or no ammo for you…
Could have been a fashion statement.
that is not how the world works. Read a bit of history of the region and you will find out about Nazi sympathies. NATO has always allied itself with extreme groups. In Syria, with DAESH for example.
drb, you could also add that nato, much like the cia was set up by nazis.
Nazi Gen Reinhard Gehlen, who installed fellow Nazis into key positions in NATO, shaped its agenda as an anti-Russia war machine.
Hitler’s Chief of Staff, Adolf Heusinger, was Chair of the NATO Military Committee until 1964.
Gen Hans Speidel, who was Erwin Rommel’s chief of staff during WW2, became the Supreme Commander of NATO’s ground forces in Central Europe 1957-1963.
Johannes Steinhoff, Nazi fighter pilot during WWII and recipient of the Nazi military’s highest award, was Chair of the NATO Military Committee 1971–1974.
The list goes on and on and on(in all major western orgs).
Thanks. Although Nazis were involved, they did not play a significant role in forming NATO IMHO. But the CIA was most definitely started by a group of american Jews, supposedly the contrary of Nazis.
You are correct and I should have used a clearer term than set up.
The appeal was their self proclaimed knowledge of Eastern Europe, which the u.s(to this day it would appear) had zero and the fact that the u.s was no more than than a toddler in the dark arts at the time and desperate for direction, so maybe (heavily)influenced direction would have been more suitable.
Unfortunately, we are living with that influence to this day.
“The decision to recruit Nazi operatives had a negative impact on U.S.-Soviet relations and set the stage for Washington’s tolerance of human rights abuses and other criminal acts in the name of anti-Communism. With that fateful sub-rosa embrace, the die was cast for a litany of antidemocratic CIA interventions around the world.
Although the Yalta Treaty stipulated that the United States must give the Soviets all captured German officers who had been involved in “eastern area activities,” Gehlen was quickly spirited off to Fort Hunt in Virginia.
Gehlen returned to West Germany in the summer of 1946 with a mandate to rebuild his espionage organization and resume spying on the East at the behest of American intelligence. The date is significant as it preceded the onset of the cold war, which, according to standard U.S. historical accounts, did not begin until a year later. The early courtship of Gehlen by American intelligence suggests that Washington was in a cold war mode sooner than most people realize. The Gehlen gambit also belies the prevalent Western notion that aggressive Soviet policies were primarily to blame for triggering the cold war.”
http://fpif.org/the_cias_worst-kept_secret_newly_declassified_files_confirm_united_states_collaboration_with_nazis/
The world looks like this
We have the money and the weapons. You need them. You do whatever the f789 we tell you or you get no money and no weapons.
Very simple.
They are telling them now – why didn’t they tell them a year ago?
Same reason Poutine didn’t throttle the gas to the EU in the middle of winter
Oh right – cuz it’s fake
‘As soon as the war is over inflation will stop’ hence ‘the war’ never ends
Well surely that should indicate to you that general moral excuses throughout history for going to war are a lie and the motive lies elsewhere. The blob couldn’t care less what badges or beliefs these soldiers have, their meat is compatible with the grinder.
(Il Sussidiario)
Floods in Italy. About blackouts and the person drowned in his house.
Subtitle: the great simplification.
The news has remained hidden in local news maybe to avoid ruining a lucrative business, but you may be interested to know that during Italian floods in Emilia-Romagna one person died because his house was fully electronic, including door, windows and relative external grids (domotic home).
The floods created blackouts and he remained blocked in his house drowning inside.
People from outside tried to open the house, because he was crying, but they didn’t make it.
They gave up because water was getting to high….
https://www.ilsussidiario.net/news/intrappolato-in-casa-hi-tech-per-alluvione-video-non-e-riuscito-a-scappare-e-morto/2543601/
Sad situation. Europe has had trouble with flooding for centuries, however. There are marks on some building showing previous flood lines.
A symbolic way to meet one’s death which should speak to all of us: literally trapped by complexity, and the urge to make life ‘convenient’. Submerged and finished off by Mother Nature.
Demographics and inflation/deflation:
We are witnessing the first effects of ChatGPT and the like evidenced(perhaps correlated may be a better choice of words) by declining office building prices(offices are basically information processing centers) and mass layoffs in the tech sector.
This has serious implications for us old folks, the kids have no jobs and ChatGPT as of yet pays no payroll taxes and…. if you think offshoring of jobs was a problem, where is the “Chat” located? Hmmmm. Houston, SS has a problem.
So we have deflation in commercial/office space which in part supports various pension/insurance programs the demise of which is a deflation of assets the demise of which leads to decreased cashflow of recipients which leads to decrease in discretionary spending which leads to further decline in the value of commercial real estate, und so weiter.
So why is the cost of frozen pizza increasing?
Dennis L.
Because there is a lag time. But you are spot on. Pensions may soon become a thing of the past
https://bit.ly/310yisL
obviously, pizza is food, and food is somewhat essential.
inflation in essentials, and deflation in useless stuff?
when deflation comes, probably in 2024, they will think of something.
It seems that UKR has taken out the Nova Kakhovka dam in the Russian controlled southern Kherson region.
It is flooding the area around the Dnieper river and the warzone in that area.
It sets a precedent, but in any case it would be unrealistic to expect states not to do what suits them in wars, which do not ‘work’ that way.
It is a bit of a stretch to consider some acts in wars to be ‘crimes’ and not others, and in any case all ‘criminality’ is conventional and basically imaginary.
Entire cities get destroyed in wars, as we recently saw with Mosul and Raqqa, and as we are seeing in UKR.
We have seen the USA destroy the NS 1/ 2 gas pipelines, and basically anything goes ‘in love and war’ as the old saying goes.
We have become accustomed to how the world ‘works’ in peacetime, but it is liable to ‘work’ differently as the energy situation worsens and competition becomes more intense for limited resources.
We have enjoyed a period of economic globalisation, and relatively subdued hostilities between the world powers, but that is liable to unravel.
Putin seethes as Nova Kakhovka dam gets destroyed; Russia accuses Kyiv of using missiles
Both sides are accusing each other. We cannot know what others keep secret. I am afraid this could escalate the war.
17.000s to evacuate. Poor people!
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/06/06/explainer-what-the-kakhovka-dam-catastrophe-means-for-the-ukraine-russia-war-a81415
Zelensky should also accuse Zambia. I mean, why not?
The war is effectively over with the fall off Bakhmut . The Battle of Kursk and Stalingrad decided WW II but it lingered on for two years . The Chief of Military General Zahlusny is on the death bed and the Chief of Intelligence Budanov is not seen since May 29 when Russian missiles destroyed the HQ of GRU . Reportedly he is dead or incapacitated . Zelensky is not seen in Ukraine after he went country hoping in the month of May . Ukraine is like a headless chicken . In military terms , the armed forces have seized to be ” combat effective ” . As to the dam , it is the Ukr nazis did it as a last resort . They had already simulated the scenario and this is as per WaPo , mouthpiece of the Biden administration .
https://www.theautomaticearth.com/2023/06/kievs-long-term-plans-to-blow-up-the-kakhovka-dam/
https://www.irishtimes.com/world/europe/2023/06/06/ukraine-war-latest/
Forced to flee? Can they run faster than water???? Where are the photos of them fleeing?
Surely when a dam breaks the result below would be tsunami-like … I read the water was at its high point of the year with the spring melt…
There must be loads of drowned people… photos please
The inevitable maelstrom of ‘cui bono’ – to whom is the benefit – has immediately raged.
The idea is that the beneficial party is likely ‘blameworthy’, even the ‘perpetrator’.
Obviously that is a ‘moralistic’ perspective, and states obviously seek benefits in wars.
From the ‘realistic’ perspective of states, the beneficiary party, if the actor, is ‘praiseworthy’.
And if the beneficiary party is not the actor, then it is ‘fortunate’, while the other side is ‘blameworthy’.
Two ‘perspectives’, the one imaginary, the ‘moralistic’, and the other practical, the military, are in play.
The states act on the practical and invoke the ‘moralistic’ for public and global consumption.
Thus the ‘moralistic’ perspective too is wielded in a practical way.
State are practical actors and that entails lying, which is ‘moralistically’ ‘blameworthy’ and practically ‘praiseworthy’.
The states expect the ‘plebs’ to take the ‘moralistic’ seriously, to see their own side as the ‘good guys’, and to believe the lies.
And that is about ordering the citizenry to the goals of the state.
The gullibility of the ‘plebs’ is thus a practical ‘good’ that allows for the efficacy of thus ‘praiseworthy’ lying by the states.
Humans have evolved to be susceptible to the imaginary and to the account of events that is given by the local state, and to exploit that susceptibility for goals.
The ‘realistic’ are given to rule, and the gullible to obey.
Religions and philosophers have been ‘realistic’ about that since time immemorial.
Plato’s ‘noble lie’ and the completely imaginary ‘self-evident truths’ of 18th c. ‘liberalism’.
‘Plebian’ gullibility allows societies to function in their material conditions, and states to wage wars.
Thus ‘truths’ are often lies, and lies are often ‘praiseworthy’ in so far as they are beneficial.
‘BS makes the world go around’… except for when it does not.
Who benefits?
The world benefits by having the Uke War to blame for everything bad that is happening.
Otherwise the MORE-ONS would get very upset and riot over this raging inflation
A retired US general has just said in the Washington Post that NATO would not stand a chance if Russia actually invaded Europe, while Russia has never indicated that it would do that.
In his view, NATO is completely unprepared, has ‘vague’ plans, and it basically has not got a clue what it is doing. Moreover, Europe simply lacks the physical infrastructure to move troops and heavy equipment eastward.
It is all about logistics, which is the backbone of any military campaign, and all about the speed of deployment, and obviously the only metrics that matter are the real ones.
NATO unprepared to fight Russia? Big claim by top ex-U.S. General amid war escalation fears
NATO can’t win a conventional war, in my opinion. It has depleted its stash of weapons, if nothing else. As the video says, there aren’t tunnels large enough in Europe to take big tanks and other weapons through.
No one mentions the possibility of nuclear weapons. Maybe that is good.
Why invade? When you can shut off the gas….