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Summary: We live in a conflict-filled world today. I believe that this is ultimately a “not-enough-to-go-around” problem. Hidden oil shortages are the problem. Strangely, at this stage in the economic cycle, oil shortages seem to appear as high interest rates rather than high prices. The “climate is our biggest problem” narrative gets told repeatedly because it makes cutting back on fossil fuels sound like a virtuous thing, rather than something we are being forced to do.
Introduction: When a major change occurs, such as moving to a new home, there are always a variety of explanations as to why the change took place. When explaining the change to someone else, we will almost always give a positive reason for the move, such as moving to be closer to relatives, access to better job opportunities, or to enjoy a better climate. We don’t talk more than necessary about negative issues such as being fired from a job, undergoing bankruptcy, or considering a divorce from one’s spouse.
With oil shortages and other energy problems (including the possibility of too much fossil fuels leading to climate change), the situation is in some ways similar. There is no simple answer as to why these problems are occurring. What we end up with is different groups seeing the current situation and its long-term resolution from different perspectives. Each group emphasizes the aspects of the problem that they see as most amenable to being solved. The different perspectives lead to conflicts among the groups.
We are living in a finite world. It is not clear that any perfect solutions are at hand. What is clear is that a finite world behaves very differently from what our intuition or the models created by economists suggests. In this post, I will try provide a partial explanation of what our energy dilemma entails, and how this leads to conflict, even war.
[1] World crude oil supply suddenly “turned a corner” about 1973. There was a huge change both in the price and growth rate of the oil supply.
Prices were amazingly low prior to about 1973. The prices shown have been adjusted for inflation to the 2023 price level.
Once oil prices rose, the growth rate of oil consumption collapsed because goods and services made with oil were no longer as affordable. There was also an effort to cut back on oil consumption because it was clear that low-cost oil supply was limited.
Increases in the supply of very cheap oil allowed many improvements to infrastructure. Electricity transmission lines, interstate highways, long distance oil and gas pipelines, and infrastructure supporting transport by air were all added. The economy became more productive. Figure 3 shows that the wages of even low-paid workers were able to rise.
Up until 1968, US wages for both the bottom 90% of workers and the top 10% of workers rose much faster than inflation. With this change, all kinds of goods and services became more affordable, including food, new homes, and new cars. In the period 1968 to 1981, the wages of both groups rose as fast as inflation. After 1981, growth of the wages of the top 10% far exceeded the inflation rate. Figure 3 shows data for the US, but the “Marshall Plan” helped spread economic growth to Europe, as well.
The rising oil prices in 1973 and 1974 brought the growth of oil consumption down to a much lower level. Without low-priced oil, inflation and recession became much more of a problem.
[2] Interest rate changes are being used to offset problems caused by too much or too little oil supply growth.
Figure 4 shows that rising interest rates acted as brakes on the economy up until 1981. Figure 3 shows that this was a period when the purchasing-power of workers was rapidly expanding, indirectly because of the rising supply of cheap oil. The reason why these higher rates slowed the economy is because higher interest rates make it more expensive to finance high-cost purchases. These higher interest rates also tended to hold down price appreciation of assets such as homes and shares of stock because fewer buyers could afford them.
Lowering interest rates over the four decades beginning in 1981 acted in the opposite direction. These lower interest rates made major purchases more affordable, allowing more people to afford a given home or farm. This tended to raise home and farm prices. In the US, refinancing mortgages at lower interest rates and taking out some or all of the price appreciation on the property became popular, further adding to purchasing power. These changes acted to boost the economy, hiding the growing problems with high-cost oil supply.
[3] The world now seems to be hitting two limits at once: (a) Crude oil supply is not keeping up, and (b) Interest rates are stubbornly high.
Figure 5 shows that world crude oil production (relative to population) was lower in June 2024 than for any month since June 2022. The June 2024 production level was much lower than in 2019, before the drop-off in oil production related to Covid-19 restrictions. A longer view strongly suggests that the peak in world oil production took place in 2019.
Based on the high prices experienced in the 1970s, many people today assume that inadequate oil supply will be signaled by high prices. Instead, what is happening now is more of an affordability problem. There are more young people with student loans who cannot afford cars or families. There are many people with college degrees working at jobs that do not require advanced education, and thus do not pay well. There are more immigrants earning low wages. Because of these factors, overall demand tends to stay too low to encourage the development of new, more marginally profitable, oil wells.
Interest rates shown in Figure 4 have risen sharply since 2020. Governments in many countries have raised debt levels, but this added debt has not resulted in a corresponding amount of goods and services being added. The problem is that the oil supply needed to produce these goods and services isn’t rising sufficiently. Instead, the added debt has tended to produce inflation.
Currently, politicians around the world want to add new programs (financed by debt) to help their economies out. If this new debt actually gets more oil out of the ground (through higher oil prices), it may be helpful. But, so far, the additional spending isn’t producing a corresponding amount of goods and services; instead, inflation is tending to stay rather high. This is a sign that limits on inexpensive-to-extract crude oil are being reached. With more inflation, interest rates on mortgages will remain stubbornly high, and economies will deteriorate.
Governments may want to reduce long-term interest rates, but they cannot do so without having the market for these loans disappear. In this part of the economic cycle, it appears that high interest rates, indirectly due to inadequate inexpensive-to-extract crude oil supplies, act as a brake on the economy instead of high oil prices. This confuses those who are expecting high oil prices to signal inadequate supply!
[4] Citizens are not being told about the shortage of low-cost crude oil. Instead, a climate change narrative is being emphasized.
In the 1970s, huge spikes in oil prices led to an immediate understanding that the world had an oil problem. But the fact that the economy has gone on since then, and oil prices are no longer up in the stratosphere, has led people to believe that the shortage problem has gone away. Adding to this belief is the fact that there seem to be substantial oil resources that can be extracted with current technology if the price is high enough.
With a different model, based on the amount of fossil fuels that might be available (if prices could rise high enough, for long enough), it is possible to conclude that if the world continues to extract fossil fuels as it has in the past, this will contribute to rising CO2 levels. This, in turn, could have an impact on the climate.
In my opinion, we are currently facing a serious shortage problem today, not only with crude oil, but also with coal. World coal consumption, relative to population, has turned down in the period since 2012.
The problem with coal seems to be similar to oil; there seems to be plenty of coal in the ground, but prices won’t rise high enough, for long enough, to allow extraction of the higher-cost coal.
Anyone looking at the situation, regardless of their perspective, would say, “We truly need something other than oil and coal to supplement our current energy supply.” The question becomes, “How can this issue be framed to be moderately acceptable to the public?” President Jimmy Carter, back in 1977, talked about the energy crisis and the need to use less oil, but he was not re-elected. Citizens didn’t like the idea of changing their lifestyles.
Somehow, the plan was developed to frame the problem as a climate change problem. This approach had multiple advantages:
(a) This approach would perhaps lead to finding some alternatives to oil and coal.
(b) Citizens would be able to feel virtuous, as they voluntarily endured higher prices and lower energy supplies, during the hoped-for transition.
(c) This approach would allow huge investment opportunities for businesses, including oil and gas companies. Higher profits would perhaps follow. Universities would also benefit.
(d) The economy would show higher GDP because of the growing debt used to finance the so-called renewables. Job opportunities would develop.
(e) Framing the conversation in terms of a climate change narrative instead of the crude oil shortage narrative conveniently leaves out the importance of very low energy prices for the affordability of finished goods. This narrative also leaves out the importance of an adequate total quantity of energy products to maintain GDP growth. Economists didn’t understand either of these issues.
(f) When the carbon emissions goals were announced in the Kyoto Protocol in 1997, the goals had the indirect effect of shifting industry from the US and Europe to China and other Asian countries. Because of the use of very inexpensive coal and low-cost labor, the shift would allow for the world production of manufactured goods to grow at very low cost. Businesses in the US and Europe could hopefully take advantage of this shift because US and European oil and coal supplies were becoming depleted, making it impossible to make this change without the assistance of coal supplies from China and elsewhere.
[5] The world economy is already facing a not-enough-to-go-around problem that plays out in many ways. These not-enough-to-go-around issues contribute to conflict.
(a) Exporters are not getting high enough prices for their exported oil. Revenue from oil is used both to support the development of new fields and to provide tax revenue for governments to provide services for their citizens. If oil prices were $100 to $150 per barrel, exporters would have the additional revenue needed to support their economies. This is a major reason why Russia and Middle Eastern countries are in turmoil.
We don’t think of low oil prices as a not-enough-to-go-around issue, but it is. Shortages of fossil fuels of any kind tend to slow the growth in the supply of finished goods and services that use those products. The part of the world economy left behind can be the producers of fossil fuels, even more than the consumers.
(b) Natural gas export prices have tended to be too low. Low pipeline natural gas prices to Europe were a major reason why Russia wanted to shift its natural gas exports toward China and other Asian countries, where prices might be higher. US natural gas producers are also unhappy about the low prices they get. The US would be happy to push Russia out as a natural gas exporter to Europe.
(c) The Advanced Economies have reduced industrialization because of depleting oil and coal supplies. They have substituted the sale of services.
The US first shifted away from industrialization in 1974, immediately after it discovered that its non-shale oil supply was declining, and the price of additional oil would need to be much higher. A further shift occurred after the 1997 Kyoto Protocol.
At the same time, the industrial production of the “Other than Advanced Economies” (including China, Russia, and Iran) has soared. The industrial production of these economies now exceeds that of the Advanced Economies (including the US, most of Europe, Japan, Australia among others–defined as OECD members).
What oil is available is increasingly consumed by the “Other than Advanced Economies.”
(d) Consumption of the main products of crude oil is being squeezed down by strange temporary economic downturns, especially in the Advanced Economies.
Advanced Economies seem to be adversely affected far more than less advanced economies, partly because industrialization is essential; services can more easily be eliminated.
(e) Poor people of the world are especially affected by the not-enough-to-go-around phenomenon, while wealthy individuals and corporations amass more wealth and power.
This is a physics issue that plays out in many ways. Young people, in particular, find it difficult to make adequate wages to afford a home and family. Even young people who obtain higher education find it difficult to succeed.
Major foundations, such as the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, gain power over what would appear to be independent organizations, such as the World Health Organization, by making huge donations. Regulators of many kinds become tied to the groups they regulate, making decisions that favor the companies that they are supposed to be regulating over the welfare of the individual citizens that they are supposed to be protecting.
In the current situation, the general public feels increasingly powerless, and many feel the urge to take matters into their own hands. All these things add to the conflict situation.
[6] The United States has been the leading world power, but its ability to defend other countries militarily is rapidly eroding.
While Ukraine, Israel, Taiwan, and members of the EU would like to think that the US can adequately defend their interests militarily, this ability is rapidly eroding. Today, nearly every type of manufacturing in the US requires supply lines from around the world. It is difficult to supply needed military aid to countries overseas, without placing an order for supplies from a country that the US is increasingly in conflict with.
Even the supply of electrical transformers to replace damaged ones in war zones raises a question of whether a sufficient supply can be assured to meet the demand for replacements for storm-damaged transformers in the US. Long lead times are often required to obtain transformers in the US, even in the absence of any additional demand for them.
The US tends to use sanctions to try to get other countries to do as it prefers. This approach doesn’t work well because sanctioned countries learn to work around the sanctions. Increasingly, in the BRICS countries, steps are being taken to move away from the US dollar as the standard for trade.
As long as the US is the accepted world leader, other countries that are involved in conflicts (which are indirectly about energy supply) will try to draw the US in to support them. Ukraine has been having energy problems for a very long time.
The EU, the UK, and Israel all seem to want war, and they would like the US to help them.
In 2023, US per-capita oil consumption is more than double that of the EU, UK, and Israel at the same date. The US’s total energy consumption per-capita is more than four times that of Ukraine. These countries assume that the US can provide the weapons and other assistance they need. But the countries they are fighting against know that the US is dependent upon supply lines that extend around the world. Actually, the US’s ability to provide help is quite limited. This adds other areas of conflict.
[7] The shift to wind and solar electricity is not working out as planned.
While the US has added wind and solar capacity, it has not added to the per-capita electricity supply. It is too expensive when all the costs are considered, and it is often not available when needed.
Communities are figuring out that if they really want a larger electricity supply (to support electric vehicle use or growing artificial intelligence demands), they need to add something other than wind and solar. In the US, this usually means added natural gas electricity generation. There are also at least two plans to reactivate closed nuclear plants in the US.
The EU has not had any better success at ramping up per-capita electricity generation using wind and solar (Figure 14).
A glance at Figure 7 (above) suggests that industrialization doesn’t really come from an expanded electricity supply. Inexpensive fossil fuels seem to be the base of industrialization, and the world is increasingly short of these.
While approaches for moving away from fossil fuels, other than wind and solar, are being tried, success at an adequate scale seems to be far away.
[8] It is hard to tell the rest of the story in detail.
We live in a finite world. All parts of the economy operate in cycles. In fact, individual people, individual businesses, and individual governments all have finite lifespans. We now seem to be coming to the end of an economic cycle. We don’t know precisely how this will end. We do know, based on history, that the downward part of the cycle will likely take years to resolve.
We as individuals are hard-wired to prefer “happily ever after” endings to our narratives. This is why people who believe that we are running short of fossil fuels tend to believe that if we just try a little harder, we can extract more oil, natural gas, and coal. There must be enough resources in the ground if we focus our efforts in that direction.
On the other hand, people who believe that climate change is our biggest problem seem to think that we can transition to using a modest amount of renewable energy instead. Unfortunately, the physics of the situation doesn’t allow things to play out that way. Also, our so-called renewables are built on a base of oil and coal. If we can’t get enough oil and coal out, already built renewables will stop functioning within a few years, and new ones will be impossible to build.
Nearly everyone who does modeling assumes that the future will be very similar to the past. Analysts assume that the economy can continue to grow forever. They assume that it is possible to pull larger and larger amounts of resources from the ground. It is easy to assume that leaders will look out for the best interests of all their constituents, and that businesses will act ethically. But we have already begun to see evidence that these assumptions don’t necessarily hold. The fact that some people can see that changes are coming, while others cannot, is part of the reason for the current conflict.
A major problem that the world faces is the fact that while governments can print more money, they can’t print more resources. Thus, broken supply lines are likely to become more common. Wars may need to be fought in new ways–for example, taking down other another country’s internet or electrical grid. Pensions will likely need to be cut back greatly, or they may ultimately disappear completely.
We don’t know how this all will end, but a great deal of conflict of one kind or another seems very likely in the next few years.
“In Early 2020, A Chinese Source Trusted By FBI Said Covid Leaked From Wuhan Lab, Sources Say”?
https://www.public.news/p/in-early-2020-a-chinese-source-trusted
Too many old people and people in poor health has been a known problem, for a long time. In my view, the lab leak furthered the plan that a group of countries had put into place, including the US.
In Early 2020, A Chinese Source Trusted By FBI Said Covid Leaked From Wuhan Lab, Sources Say
FBI’s entire 25-person Chinese intelligence squad knew of reliable human intelligence that SARS-CoV-2 Covid leaked from a lab
Meanwhile in Norway:
The commune I grew up in want to let some foreign company build a plant producing hydrogen using hydropower. People are concerned about safety but not a single person has has mentioned waste of energy.
Same old in others words but instead of grieving I have left the city for more rural surroundings. Less concrete, more nature and quite important – fewer people per square km = fewer idiots per square km.
PS Where’s Slow Teddy, did he drive off that cliff?
Fast Eddy is writing his own blog over on Substack.
At least part of the problem is that physics is now de-emphasized in schools, in the US and Europe. Modeling, based on “the future will be like the past,” (even though finite worlds go through cycles) is encouraged. We now have a new religion: Follow what your leaders and the Mainstream Media promulgate, and you will be saved. Government programs will provide an income when you become old or infirm. The new sin is that of not doing enough to protect the environment. Whatever “green” ideas are in vogue at the moment are to be followed.
“has mentioned waste of energy.”
That’s interesting. Hydrogen from water is awful expensive because of the capital cost of the electrolysis cells. And hydrogen is even worse than natural gas if you try to ship it.
Norway exports a lot of fill in power for people trying to use renewable power. The only way I can see such a project is if there is government subsidy.
Klaus Schwab warns “There will be, certainly, what we call ‘Black Swan’, which will come our way”
https://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/1848433380276490407
Knowing the number of dirty tricks and false flags put in place by governments, this kind of statement leads a person to think that the powers that be are planning some new disruption.
I think the most likely Black Swan is a volcanic eruption that cuts world food production by half. (look up 536) Given the rumors about government weather control, no doubt the rumor mongers would start yapping about the department of volcano control.
In 2018, medieval scholar Michael McCormick nominated 536 as “the worst year to be alive” because of the volcanic winter of 536 caused by a volcanic eruption early in the year, causing average temperatures in Europe and China to decline and resulting in crop failures and famine for well over a year.[1][2]
As luck may have it, there was a US Navy ship right above the epicenter of the 2011 Japan quake (which created a disastrous tsunami). On top of that, the waveforms I saw on the internet had too much high frequency stuff. So I think both you and Gail could be right.
Perhaps the US has the ability to cause major earth quakes. We certainly don’t have the ability to fight ground wars.
We found out that the US and other countries were working on splicing together viruses in 2019, to try to make a worse virus that would circulate well. This was paired with a vaccine that didn’t work well and had major side effects. The purpose of these strange goings on seemed to be to reduce world population, especially of the elderly and people already in poor health.
“Perhaps the US has the ability to cause major earth quakes.”
Nope, not possible, might never be possible.
“seemed to be to reduce world population,”
Which government are you thinking about? US seems to be doing what they can to increase population. But I doubt there is any intention.
The starvation of 4 billion unnecessariats is a non-event, not even worth mentioning in the grand scheme of things.
A greater disaster is the closures of several chokepoints of global trades, by natural causes or otherwise, which does shake the global economy.
The fimbulwinter from norse mythology is supposed to be a mythological memory of the 536 winter and the following winters.
Re: Responses to Oil shortages lead to hidden conflicts–even war
I am disposing myself to the as-yet uncertain outcome of the USA election.
Basic principles:
1. I have no control over the outcome of the USA election.
2. USA from the domestic angle is not really my problem any more than any other state. What they do is up to them in that regard.
3. I am mainly concerned about the international impact of the USA election but whether I should be is questionable.
4. Yet the world is a complex and dynamic place basically a ‘flux’ as Heraclitus put it and so the outcomes are anyway difficult to predict as to how situations would develop.
5. There is no ‘objective purpose’ in the world only perspectives, interests and wills.
6. By the same token that does not mean that one cannot have one’s own perspective albeit one may be more or less ‘free’ on that count.
Conclusions:
1. Neither candidate really ‘does it’ for me and both are concerning – whether they should be is questionable – and I will probably just have to ‘man up’ and ‘face’ whatever comes.
2. It seems reasonable that I ought not to ‘commit’ to any preference for a candidate as the implications are so unpredictable and objectives are in any case so questionable.
So, ‘man up’ it is. In other words, do I really care?
I find some inspiration in this:
> Knowledge, saying yes to reality, is just as necessary for the strong as cowardice and fleeing in the face of reality – which is to say the ‘ideal’ – is for the weak, who are inspired by weakness. They are not free to know. (Nietzsche, Ecce Homo – Behold the Man)
Both candidates are in favor of genocide so I will not vote this year. I expect trump wins the vote by a wide margin but Harris wins the election by unlimited fraud.
If you are correct, USA will become like Tamil Nadu
https://youtu.be/mho3RZA3dMQ?si=NsvQK7Ruouem54qp
https://youtu.be/iRjmMNNMzqk?si=Kqr9CmBx0qDqxbYz
Gopalan will succeed making USA like Tamil Nadu.
I think part of the problem is that the US is reaching a problem with too much wage and wealth disparity. Peter Turchin, in his book End Times, talks about overproduction of elites is such a period. In his view, the wage and wealth disparity comes from the “wealth pump.” (In my view, the disparity comes from added complexity without sufficient energy behind it.)
According to Turchin, in a period of great wage and wealth disparity, there are also many people who would be in the upper middle class or middle class who are pushed down (by what seems to me to be the poor job market). These people tend to become extremists, and the society becomes less stable. The number of people who have more radical thoughts grows and becomes a bigger factor.
I think this is the reason we are getting the radical leaders we are getting, and both sides willing to attack each other in their campaigning. This is why both sides seem unacceptable.
Peter Turchin’s model suggests that at some time in the 2020s, “instability becomes so high that it starts cutting down the elite numbers,” and this, by itself, helps to fix the problem. (My view: Perhaps the debt bubble collapses, and some of the rich are no longer rich.) Turchin claims that the high level of violence accelerates the transition of most radicals to moderates, and the radicalization curve falls as a fast as it rose, reaching a minimum, sometime after 2030. He says that the cycle likely repeats every 50 or 60 years.
I am not sure I believe the future part of Turchin’s model, but for now, we seem to have a problem.
It is a non event. it was much worse on 1900.
Most rich worth its salt have enough gold to weather the storm.
I think we can rate the candidates only on their ability to avoid nuclear holocaust. Both are bad. The rest (future economic development for example) are baked in the cake.
Trump will at least try to avoid making USA into a third world country
Gopalan will gladly lead USA to become a third world country. The palaces of Maharajahs are ornate while there are squalor just outside of these.
Based on your view, Trump would therefore seem to be the preferable US candidate, for now. If the US can be kept away from abject poverty for a while, perhaps he (and Vance) can do it. Vance is amazingly articulate. If Trump’s health proves to be a problem, Vance could stand in.
Most people commenting here would agree with Kulm. The question is whether that is relevant. This is not elementary school, and no prizes for trying. In his first term, he contributed just as much as Biden to american decline. Gorbachev tried.
I think most commenters here will agree with your assessment. but trying and doing are different things.
“Trump will at least try to avoid making USA into a third world country”
Trump wants to go to war with Iran on behalf of Israel. Trump will blow up the middle east leading to quicker and much more acute world oil shortage. I don’t know if Kamala will be much better, but to say Trump will save America from 3rd world status is ludicrous.
Stupid post. Kamala will lead us to war. Trump kept us out of war.
I don’t have a vote in this US Presidential election, or indeed, in any election anywhere.
And I find my lack of the franchise to be liberating. At least I won’t be endorsing anybody whose policies I abhor.
“The mother of all financial meltdowns is now approaching, and it will likely dwarf previous financial crises.”?
https://richardwerner.org/
As I see it, the amount of goods and services produced is going to fall, rather than rise, because of energy limits.
Today’s system produces a huge amount of potential demand for goods and services, especially from owners of assets, if owners were to sell their assets. Somehow, a huge haircut must come on what these assets will actually purchase. I don’t know how this precisely happens. It may come through the Central Bank Digital Currencies. It may come sooner, through falling asset prices and failing banks. Or through hyperinflation.
the bubble will burst once Central Banks
bring in negative interest rates so this is why our central bank digital currencyneeds to be created, the Elders know this and will set up the necessary conditions to ensure survival for their buddies the oil price will probably reach new heights along with precious metals and real estate.
Gold is now above $2700. I think that means people are abandoning the USD as a safe haven, choosing gold instead; the Fed and US gov are losing control.
Ironically, retail sales of bullion by the US public is dead. Central banks are buying physical, yes, but the average Joe, Costco bullion retail sales notwithstanding, is not buying right now. In fact there are some suggestions that former retail purchasers are now trying to sell their gold back to the dealers. Bullion dealers flush with supply. Those retail stackers with a generational transfer mindset may still be acquiring on dollar cost averaging etc., , but not others.
Interesting. In times of crisis, gold seems difficult to trade for anything. Silver would seem to be a more tradable commodity. I will give you a quarter or dime for a loaf of bread, for example.
Have followed gold for quite a long time
Those who would have bought gold in retail did so long ago when Gold was less than 2000
Retail investors are not going to buy gold with this price since those who stacked up have done long ago.
of course they’re going to buy gold since it will continuously go up predictions of hundred thousand dollars an ounce will cause retail investors to greedily continue buying. Greed is a huge motivator
News from Russia for this month:
1) Dr. Eric Berg recently posted a youtube video about the US requiring that all livestock has individual tags (they will be RFID tags). The same is happening here with unique numbers (those are going to be some busy tags). Fortunately here there are ways around things, and it is healthy to keep less than perfect sale channels (it is also good to have 100% documented sale channels). My animals also live in mixed terrain and a good 50% of them lose their tags when brushing against low branches, within a year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN3vjumXPLU&t=249s
2) People talk more openly about Putin’s succession. John Helmer as usual provides a good background (below), which I provide because it rings true compared to other info I have. The center for criticism is of course the military, which has seen Putin commit many strategic mistakes (too long to list, but keep in mind this is the guy who wanted Russia to join NATO, and also withdrew troops surrounding Kiev as sign of good will. and also stopped the Debaltsevo cauldron in 2014, also to show good will). Moves are afoot to change the mode of governance so that change will happen during Putin’s current tenure (not described in article). Also not described worries about a possible land war with China, now that a lot of equipment was spent in Ukraine, and worries in general that Putin will provoke future wars with his ultra-conciliatory manner. Also unsaid in the article, but surely present in the minds of the spravka, is the comp between a 100% russian guy and one whose mother was not (no prizes for guessing which tribe).
https://johnhelmer.net/dmitry-rogozin-for-president/
Putin’s removal, although with the purpose to be more aggresive against the West, would be anyway a victory for the West.
John Helmer writes some interesting articles, but I think he is a subtile and clever cia man.
I wonder if the tagging of cattle is partly to drive up the price of beef, and, because of the higher cost, reduce demand for cattle (that are very demanding of energy). It they try to trace each animal, that will further add to costs.
I don’t know about a land war between Russia and China, or the military wanting to push Putin out.
Tagging farm animals is purely a control mechanism; shut out the farmers markets where food can bypass the big retail processors. Also, stop farm gate sales.
Farmers around here get about $6 per kg wholesale; retail price same product is up above $25 per kg retail.
Server farms are there to control the real farms.
The electrical system, including the cell towers, is the lifeblood/nervous/control system of all these ‘ financialisation of the biosphere’ bio-digital prison.
That jab has implanted your personal bio-digital ID.
To control the real world you need an accurate model of the real world, in real time. Know everything, model everything, predict everything, know how to intervene to obtain desired results.
>> That jab has implanted your personal bio-digital ID.
No it hasn’t.
“$6 per kg wholesale; retail price same product is up above $25 per kg retail.”
What product?
I concur with LC. These livestock control systems are fascist in nature. and they are everywhere.
” livestock control systems are fascist in nature”
They are also a public health measure. Remember the BSE crisis? Talk about dodging the bullet, at one point the UK thought they might have millions of cases in humans.
“Subsequently, 177 people (as of June 2014) contracted and died of a disease with similar neurological symptoms subsequently called (new) variant Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease (vCJD).[
“Although the BSE epizootic was eventually brought under control by culling all suspect cattle populations, people are still being diagnosed with vCJD each year (though the number of new cases currently has dropped to fewer than five per year). This is attributed to the long incubation period for prion diseases, which is typically measured in years or decades. As a result, the full extent of the human vCJD outbreak is still not known.[citation needed]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bovine_spongiform_encephalopathy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_cow_crisis
make it illegal to feed cow brains to cows if you wish. cows eating grass do not get that stuff.
“make it illegal to feed cow brains to cows”
That’s exactly what happened. Of course it takes people to be sure this is enforced and tracking the cows, but the alternative is cases of vCJD. I know of two cases, not pleasant.
Probably too slow to dodge anything at all.
https://www.ukcolumn.org/video/insight-slaughtered-on-suspicion
In 2001, the north-west of England was ravaged by livestock slaughters imposed by the Ministry of Agriculture, which had just changed its name to DEFRA.
This unique UK Column documentary, with testimony by intimidated locals, reveals the role of Professor Neil Ferguson’s modelling and of hidden policy agendas in that huge blow to the farmers of Cumbria.
The documentary, made in 2014, covers the UK Government’s ‘slaughter on suspicion’ policy. It was removed from the Internet in 2021 when Vimeo shut down the UK Column channel. Viewer discretion is advised.
Imperial College’s mathematical models were used as pretext for millions of cattle to be unnecessarily, inhumanely and unhygienically slaughtered to ‘prevent the spread’ of foot-and-mouth disease.
This is the same Neil Ferguson and the same Imperial College, London, whose computer models drove the UK’s Covid–19 policy recommendations.
At least he didn’t have all the covid-19 cases slaughtered.
Jokes aside, I understand why people need to make such decisions on incomplete information. Still, I am glad I have not had to do so.
Ferguson is a liar and complicit in mass murder. He’s massively wrong every time, but always in favour of his paymasters(up 440,000/1 out). Defenders of his fraud always try to claim he was just giving worse case scenarios, but you’ll not find a single report that makes worse case scenario clear and that includes from his own mouth. He claimed up to 2m in Britain and was so concerned, he galavanted all over town with his mistress through the whole made up event. Stop concentrating on what they tell you and pay attention to what they do.
Never trust a scientific model(or the person presenting it) from Imperial, history from Kings, or economics from LSE. If any of them have been thrust Infront of a camera, it’s too lie, without exception.
Michael Fumento’s 2010 archived Forbes article “Why the WHO Faked a Pandemic” discusses the role of Neil Ferguson’s Swine Flu disease modeling in furthering The WHO’s goals to “weaponize the virus response” to push global solutions to health, economics and social justice (WHO DG Chan).
Gaslighting and abusing people by telling us what you plan to do with symbols, absurdity and obvious tells, using wars and pandemics to test new technologies and grab power and flaunting the protocols, flip flopping, hiding data and pretending that ‘we are all in this together” is a sick form of dark magick, a revelation of the method. People apologizing for these attacks are a special breed of abuser who were first victim’s of a cult but it’s their choice.
“Insider: UK Gov’t Hired ‘Mercenary Nurses’ To ‘Involuntarily Euthanize’ MILLIONS of COVID Patients”?
https://rumble.com/v5fxyit-insider-uk-govt-hired-mercenary-nurses-to-involuntarily-euthanize-millions-.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp
Millions. Does this make sense? The UK has less than 70 million to the US 330 million. The US lost about a million to Covid-19. If the UK lost about the same fraction, it would be a million x 70/330 or around 210,000. The claimed number is a bit over 186,000.
Do you think this is true or someone making up stuff for clicks?
keith
it just confirms the BS quota from certain individuals
they will believe and repost anything.
a few years ago i was taken to task here on ofw for calling BS on ”millions of dead lying in the streets”
it was ”was all true”.
a few years ago i was taken to task here on ofw for calling BS on ”millions of dead lying in the streets”
it was ”was all true”.
You tell them Norman. All those lies, for all that time and forget the millions, there’s not a single incident of anyone dropping dead on the streets throughout the whole charade, even though the lying worm Furguson said it could be as many as 2 million, but they couldn’t even get 2.
Don’t ever trust them again, with their pretend pandemics, whilst they, with all the data and experts, throw big parties and swap bodily fluids, because there really was nothing to worry about, which they clearly knew. You can see that, right?
Of course, the COVID-19 jabs have also been linked to vCJD. They really are the gift that keeps giving.
As early as 2021, we had this from Turkey:
Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease After the COVID-19 Vaccination
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/357442961_Creutzfeldt-Jakob_Disease_After_the_COVID-19_Vaccination
And in 2022, this from France:
Towards the emergence of a new form of the neurodegenerative Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease: Twenty six cases of CJD declared a few days after a
COVID-19 “vaccine” Jab
https://tkp.at/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/PDF-Towards-the-emergence-of-a-new-form-of-the-neurodegenerative-Creutzfeldt-Jakob-disease-Twenty-six-cases-of-CJD-declared-a-few-days-after-a-COVID-19-vaccine-Jab.pdf
Given that CJD takes a decade or more to develop does this make any sense?
you might as well look for sense in a trump election speech keith
Not a lot of people know this, Keith, but 85% of vCJD cases have no known cause. They are referred to as Sporadic CJD and they occur spontaneously, mainly affecting individuals around the age of sixty.
Since COVID shots have been shown to cause CJD to manifest soon after the injection, it takes no great leap of the imagination to surmise that other “vaccines”, such as those on the childhood schedule, could cause it to appear decades down the road.
wouldnt it be simpler to list the things covid hasnt been responsible for?
i think there was an eclipse of the sun this year, i dont think covid had anything to do with that.
though i could be wrong—as usual
I can’t say I’m very up on the causes of CJD, Norman. The standard explanation is prions.
A prion is a misfolded protein that induces misfolding in normal variants of the same protein, leading to cellular death, according to Wikipedia. It’s a bit like falling dominos, or possibly like a chain reaction in nuclear fission, although much slower. One prion persuades its neighbor to fold, creating another prion, which does the same, on and on relentlessly for decades, until the damage results in symptomatic disease—or so I’m told.
But today, while searching online, I read a new fact—that in 85% of CJD cases, nobody knows what causes it. This means if it’s caused by prions, nobody knows what causes the first prion that triggers the process.
As for vaccines, in many cases they seem to be a cofactor in causing a disease or condition to manifest that was well on the way to manifesting in any case. Essentially, iIt’s a collaboration between what’s in the shots and the other pathogenic processes occurring in the victim’s body.
Prion diseases are just weird. I have followed the research for decades. This work resulted in two Nobel prizes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prion#History
Worth reading. I very much doubt covid vaccinations affect the disease but they might. If someone can show that they do, it would be a serious and useful advance in understanding a mystery of science.
Tagging animals is a few cents. Not going to drive up the cost.
Except for rounding up the cows, all hands on deck, no tractor work that day, hustle them through the chute, then give all data to a secretary whose sole work is to do precisely this. They could be grazed for free while we do other things, but no, we have to tag them.
Productive workers are supporting an ever increasing parasitic load of government workers, financiers, lawyers. Like an engine that is generating more waste heat than producing power. More gas needed, but less work delivered.
Since everyone likes to follow the energy pedigree of green energy as a derivative of fossil fuels which is a net energy loser, I wonder if anyone has looked at the hidden costs of the increased complexity of internal combustion engines? Adding all this continuous variable transmission (CVT) and turbocharging complexity and costs to wring out the last 0.1% mileage “efficiency” in ICEs required by these carbon credit government mandates. These are prone to early failure and costly to fix/replace. Which is why I hold on to my 2010 Lexus with 150K and will not buy a new vehicle.
Most people don’t want to think about things too much and rely on “the market” or “the government” to take care of these issues.
Many people in industry, especially people who should know better, think that complexity is good. I think part of the reason is that some of the people who keep everything together are autistic to some degree. Managing something ridiculously complex seems feasible to them. They have tunnel vision. However, they are the high priests of industrial society so even if people have reservations, they don’t commit blasphemy and keep those reservations to themselves.
I just sold some meat to a neighbor. Was somewhat surprised because I gave him a piece of a cow which could not give birth and whom we butchered on the field, but he was happy with the meat. He is from Moscow and is thinking about creating a CSA out of his home network. The point is that all these customers create transactions that need zero secretaries. But sell to even the smallest of processors and the secretarial workforce is increased by two. Three as the processor sells to the butchers or supermarkets. Not only they create parasitic jobs at a time of scarce manpower, they are essentially outlawing free range animals.
it is the nature of the society we have created, that few people have the means to to turn up at your field gate to buy meat—or anything else of that nature.
hence we must have ”parasitic jobs”
i think you said the the other day that i was unaware—or something that
your comment neatly reverses that i think.
the thought of butchering animals and selling them on the spot is ridiculous
“butchering animals and selling them on the spot is ridiculous”
I have done it.
I remember my parents buying a “quarter” of beef, and storing it in the meat locker in our small town, until my parents wanted to take part of it out to cook and eat. I am sure the beef was grown and slaughtered locally.
My parents split an animal with some friends who had room to raise it. i remember my mom being outraged by a letter with a drawing showing we got the front half and since that was where the food went in, we had to pay for it.
I can’t remember the details exactly, but eventually she realized it was a joke.
Our freezer was full of white wrapped packages of beef for a long time.
keith
i was talking about ”en masse”.
i expected that much to be obvious
some people collect roadkill and eat it, most dont
you know perfectly well what uncontrolled butchery would do, within a modern environment.–as would any other uncontrolled food production process.
“it is the nature of the society we have created, that few people have the means to to turn up at your field gate”
I thought we lived in a society that had oodles of cars, cheap fuel and people that were used to traveling many miles for the most frivolous of reasons. Sounds like the perfect society for travelling to get your food. Maybe one day we’ll get a single massive out of town market for all of it. It will be super and we could call it a supermarket. I think it might catch on Norman.
“These are prone to early failure and costly to fix/replace” This may be by design.
Maybe the plan is to phase out mass transportation by making it cost prohibitive . It’s difficult to separate covert incentives from natural cost increases because “income inequality” (falling wages for the vast majority of workers) tends to favor the international sustainability goal of reducing consumption.
“Calling for a lifestyle change and thereby, reducing consumption from the citizens of G20 member states- which account for nearly 60 percent of the global population—could make a big difference in the fight against climate change.”
from
OECD countries need to adopt Sustainable Consumption Goals (SCGs)
AUTHOR : VIKROM MATHUR
https://www.orfonline.org/
I don’t know what you are talking about. Red meat consumption is skyrocketing here. Specially lamb, since it is the lower salaries that increasing most rapidly, and that means muslims. We butcher all our animals and sell only carcasess. This one was too weak to move, but it was March and she was butchered on pristine snow, then hung to bleed to a tractor hydraulic arm.
Some of Helmer’s criticisms are valid, but many are not, or at least the situation is complicated. Let’s take, for example, the withdrawal of troops from Kiev. There were insufficient troops to maintain position without getting pot-shotted from every direction or to take Kiev. Meanwhile, the Ukrainian army was still intact. How is being at the gates of Kiev without being able to take control and having no fortifications useful? They withdrew because the large-arrow moves were a bluff and a pressure tactic, and then when that didn’t work, they had to go on the defensive and minimize casualties and build a much larger army. In short, the situation was unsustainable and Russia had to withdraw from Kiev; staying wasn’t a good option. Helmer doesn’t understand that or at least pretends not to.
yes, the original mistake was to go there light.
To be perfectly honest, Putin himself admits to this and other mistakes, and regrets it. He is an honest man who has achieved a lot but the world is changing rapidly. One of the people I spoke to is fairly well connected. I would not point to Helmer without some other evidence, and he was proven really worng at other times in the past.
“George Kaplan on October 19, 2024 at 10:45 am
The most annoying, facile and unexamined phrase out of climate scientists who have never been anywhere near a multi-billion dollar energy project or, less innocently, have skin in the game, is “we have the technology …” (to fix climate change). We don’t and never will. The issue that needs to be addressed is overshoot; renewables are being proposed as a solution which allows proponents to fantasise that we can perpetuate that state.
The ideal fuel is energy dense, easily stored and transported, easy to turn on and off, has a high EROI, and doesn’t require a huge amount of upfront investment in time, resources and labour or an extended supply chain to bring on-line. That is fossil fuel, in particular easily refined, conventional, medium density oil. Renewables don’t tick any of the boxes and do not provide a one-for-one replacement technology for any of our fossil fuel use. Even the best case, EVs, only address about 8% of energy, and not really that even, are more expensive and can’t do some things (emergency vehicles, long journeys off road). Wind and solar power generation appear cheap when there is an existing grid and other infrastructure that they can utilise, but that stuff was all built originally with 50 to 1 EROI fossil fuels and can barely now be maintained as overall energy use falls towards 10 to 1. Heavy goods by land, sea and air can’t use electricity and hydrogen will be, at best, a very low efficiency and highly complex minor player.
Technology is necessary but far from sufficient. We have the technology for everyone on earth to have a flying car or take a holiday in space, or even to have clean drinking water and adequate plumbing, but none of those things are going to happen because they also need lots of resources: minerals, energy, time, labour, land, institutions. There is no chance that we have enough of these to replace all fossil fuels, and if we did the earth would be a total wasteland covered with wind and solar farms, transmission lines, open cast mines, access roads to service all those with wild flora and fauna only found in few antiseptic research facilities, and everybody’s lives tightly controlled solely to keep this monster running. And civilisation would be in deeper overshoot and heading for an even more precipitous collapse.
The second most facile and unexamined phrase is “if we all just work together …”, meaning work together in exactly the way I’m going to tell you to because, as a climate scientist, I obviously know all about every aspect of human and social behaviour. We are not evolved to work together, we are evolved to maximise our genes in subsequent generations, sometimes that can involve group selection, which makes some of our behaviour look quite altruistic and touchy feely (even if it’s actually the result of widespread adultery, meaning our ancestors were never too sure their direct relationships with close neighbours, so hedged their bets) but it stops at the tribal level (nowadays extending to any tribe we join, even if we are not closely related to the rest of the members). Benefitting the whole of humanity would only be at the expense of our individual genes, so it is not going to happen.”?
https://climateandeconomy.com/2024/10/19/19th-october-2024-todays-round-up-of-climate-news/
Disposable Power Plants: Wind and Solar Are the Single-Use Plastic of the Power Plant World
https://energybadboys.substack.com/p/disposable-power-plants-wind-and
This is a good article. It should be distributed widely. Wind and solar have short lifetimes, as do the backup batteries. The article doesn’t mention inverters, but they have short lifetimes, too.
Some of the solar panels are particularly toxic in landfills, or anywhere else they are left.
Incentives play a huge role in spending on wind and solar. The article says,
The idea that installing wind and solar allows cheap energy forever is simply nonsense, yet a lot of people believe it.
I would agree that a lot of assumptions are being made when climate scientists and other scientists suggest that somehow, we can turn back or stop climate change. The climate has always been changing. This point gets lost.
For example, the Garden of Eden story is set in ancient Iraq. At the time described, it was a very wet area that could support a wide variety of flora and fauna. This is likely a time less than 10,000 years ago, some say 6,000 years ago. We know that northern Africa was wetter in earlier times than now, also.
The change of lie definition is always done intentionally.
Yes, scientific ”insight” changes but not through selective modelling of selective parameters excluding things.
It was global cooling.
It was global warming.
It was climate change.
It was impending immediate positive feedback loops of cascading entropy.
Watered down magnitude of effect.
It was asymptomatic.
It was carrier asymptomatic.
It was infectious.
It was potentially incubating.
It was symptomatic.
It was effective in preventing infection.
It was effective in reducing the incidence of infection.
It was effective in preventing symptoms.
It was effective in reducing symptoms.
It was statistically possible to prevent life-threatening symptoms.
It was potentially bolstering the immune system.
It was case fatalities.
It was test-positive case counts.
It was test-probable case threshold counts.
It was above-average aggregate death counts.
Obscuring causes and effects and misleading it with second or third-order non-sequiturs is done through redefinition.
Originally in 1970s the environmental movement was about overpopulation and zero population growth. It got hijacked away from population control and subsistence promotion into virtuous doom distraction. WEF talks about ”water scarcity” being real and not an abstraction and plausible thing to sell the public into acceptance of an enforced austerity living lifestyle since ”climate change” requires 108 IQ or above to understand the abstractions of second-latent or later-ordered variables of humans potentially causing some 2-3% in atmospheric conditions with plausible deniability in lieu of redistributive policies for resources (i.e. selectively omitting China and second-world countries from CO2 emissions, whilst using their coal reserves/resources and telling the leaders of oil-rich nations to go green [“do not deplete”] their resources so they can invade/use them/do a regime chance, save it for more utilitarian populations [first world populations]).
I think that the definition of what is a vaccine has changed over time.
At one time, vaccines seemed to work at providing a way the immune system could be set to block occasional diseases that could kill a person. These were diseases that people never had more than once. Vaccines got a very good reputation (partly because problems were never made public).
We also have antibiotics. We know that there is a huge problem with antibiotic resistance.
Now, we have a different kind of inoculation that purports to somewhat protect against mostly non-lethal diseases. Calling it a “vaccine” is really a stretch. It doesn’t provide the same level of protection, and it is plagued with the equivalent of antibiotic resistance. The virus soon changes to a different form, in which the “vaccine” has no benefit. It is a constant treadmill. And the side effects become very great, just as they are with antibiotics.
What are the odds that smallpox, monkeypox and cowpox are strains of the same virus?
I’ve never heard of a vaccines working to prevent infection from a different kind of virus. Cowpox being used in smallpox vaccines. Smallpox vaccines being used to prevent monkeypox.
“strains of the same virus?”
“Orthopoxvirus is a genus of viruses in the family Poxviridae and subfamily Chordopoxvirinae. Vertebrates, including mammals and humans, and arthropods serve as natural hosts. There are 12 species in this genus. Diseases associated with this genus include smallpox, cowpox, horsepox, camelpox, and mpox.”
They are close enough that (for example) cowpox prevents smallpox or mpox.
I didn’t know there were 12 in the family. Wikipedia is just hyper cool.
“The virus soon changes to a different form, in which the “vaccine” has no benefit. ”
That’s been a problem with flu vaccines from the start. They have to make a new one every year.
The flu vaccines keep getting worse, in terms of effectiveness. Medpagetoday.com is directed toward medical professionals. It gives as positive a spin on issues as possible.
https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/uritheflu/112461
How Does This Year’s Flu Shot Stack Up?
— Effectiveness appears to be on a downward trend, CDC data suggest
I wonder whether all of the Covid vaccine effects are interfering with Northern Hemisphere ability to prevent severe illness. The study was done with respect to hospitals in Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Paraguay, and Uruguay.
None of this is surprising. Over the last 20-30 years it has been as good as 60% and as poor as 10%. They do the best they can, but exactly which flu versions will circulate next season is a hard guess.
Still, even a 10% reduction is cost effective, given how little a flu shot cost and how expensive a week in the ICU is.
After being dry all my life, my hometown of Bologna is underwater for the second time in 17 months.
I’ll bet that there are high water marks in Bologna, where the water was high (perhaps equally high) years ago. There is a lot of variability in water amounts, each year, and each month.
Would you like to give your opinion about?
We also found it strange.
the climate has definitely changed. I am not complaining about it because in sunny dry northern russia falls are as warm as they used to in northern italy.
All wars are resource wars .
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/chinese-consulate-myanmar-bombed-rebels-take-control-hub-rare-earth-minerals
Myanmar is the country that at one time was known as Burma. The country borders on China,Laos, and Thailand. The article says,”
“Border regions which have seen the most intense fighting of late happen to be known for the mining of rare earth minerals.”
Everyone would like the rare-earth minerals.
St
It is farcial to have a new system of technology supporting 8 billion people.
To get to the next level of civ, I have said a few times that
1. It is necessary to limit the consumption of maybe 95-99% of the global population back to what they had in 1900
2. It is necessary to implement strict surveillance and control, so no dissent is allowed.
Tina Turner or Aretha Franklin (Turner’s lifelong rival) or whatever, 8 billion people, about 90% of them irrelevant as far as civilization is concerned, are not going to the next level of civilization.
A mass contraction of the standards of living, probably followed by a massive reduction of two legged animal population, will take place before any discussion of future civilization could take place.
We will get #1 automatically. #2 is not needed. Just wait 80 years.
80 years will be like 80,000,000 years
The current civ does not have 8 years.
>The current civ does not have 8 years.
Pretty much will not have the same civ after 8 years but people will be and some form of order…
https://robertbryce.substack.com/p/electrifying-everything-means-higher
Electrifying Everything Means Higher Energy Costs For Consumers. These DOE Numbers Prove It (Again)
After months of stonewalling, the agency finally published residential energy cost data. Electricity now costs 3.5 times more per Btu than natural gas.
He then shows a chart with heat-equivalent costs of residential fuel is the US.
https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F73c6a881-febf-483d-8d95-1dc7863896e1_2492x1390.jpeg
It shows
Natural gas = $13
Number 2 heating oil = $27
Propane = $34
Kerosene = $34
Electricity = $47
I think the issue may be that electricity is easier to control than natural gas. Or maybe natural gas is needed for electricity generation, and keep it away from home heating. The effect will be practically no home heating, because home heating will be absurdly expensive.
At $2 per Mbtu, not very much natural gas will be extracted. It is hard to get the price up much higher than this. This is something that Bryce is not aware of.
Thank you, very useful summary of costs.
Dennis L.
Historians can’t agree on the causes of WWI & II.
Ukraine aka WWIII is simpler – the West wanted to regime change and break up Russia for its resources and then move on to dealing with China. Best laid plans and all that . . .
I’ll say again I think the world is going to bifurcate – BRICS et al – and the West is going to get a lot poorer. That was obvious as soon as the EU sanctioned the critical resources it obtained from Russia and started throwing unlimited $ into the world’s most corrupt $ laundromat. Here in Australia we also throw $billions into the Ukraine and MIC blackholes.
Not sure if the delusional, Satanic and self-destructive ideologies in the West lead, or follow the decline.
Apart from that, the world is inexplicably anomalous in many aspects, so given it’s still BAU party time, one has a duty to party to the best of one’s abilities and not worry too much.
WWI was caused by the UK running short of coal supplies; WWII was caused by Germany running short of hard coal supplies. Historians can’t imagine energy problems as the cause if wars, so they can’t figure these things out.
https://ourfiniteworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/52-peak-coal-in-uk-and-germany-led-to-world-wars.png
false flags are caused by western world
Patrick Clawson answers questions about whether sanctions are working against Iran (to keep Iran from making nuclear weapons) and other question. He strongly suggests that an awfully lot of past wars got started by false flags. If the US doesn’t like what Iran is doing, it needs to secretly create an excuse for war.
concur. Historians, the products of western academia, have no clue and work hard to come up with non existent reasons.
They are expected to do lots of “research” every year for the academic institutions they work for. In these papers, they simply add more strange reasons for what happened. If energy shortages were ever mentioned, they would never make it through peer review. Energy problems are not very solvable problems.
In order to successfully lie about our actions in the present day we need people to also lie about the past. If they are good enough liars they will be rewarded with speaking engagements, political appointments and the like (Niall Ferguson and Fiona Hill).
It’s important to always talk about Putin and his imagined motivations and how evil he is compared to us.
hitler wanted ukraine as ”liebensraum”
putun wants ukraine for the same reason
ukraine is one of the breadbaskets of the world
simple
yes, having nuclear tipped missiles 450 km from moscow can not possibly be a reason. and russia needs ukraine to feed itself clearly.
i have no doubt putin is an undercover ofw’er, so knows what the future holds
thats why he wants ukraine, for its food resources.
you continue to have precious little clue about the world.
you mean putin isnt a closet ofw’er?
Since the West is the only group with the possibility to lead the world to the next level, and the 3rd World can’t, that means the end of civilization
I’m sorry Kulm, I appreciate your considerations and your post give interesting perspectives, but I’ve developed the idea that this concept of ‘next level of civilization’ is a real s..t
Thia society of total control on people is a nightmare.
Just some India news for information.
”India’s 10 year govt securities rate is 6.7%. They haven’t cut a single time in the last 18 months. Reason India is buying us$ treasury securities is India’s (140 billion breathing souls consuming ) Imports (crude oil +gold + advanced macheniries+ defense equipment)is always more than Exports (soft exports is the crowning glory. all other material exports are not so much ) by a faxtor of 30-40 billion $ monthly defect. RBI’s $ and other convertible currency stockpile is only 600 billion $. If exports fail India has only less than a year’s worth of foreign exchange at any time. Rupee is weak at 84 to $. You can compare $:₹ from 2012-2024.
If you compare with china, reminbi is stronger now than 1997 (Hongkong takeover). China, Japan run monthly export trade surplus. Indian ₹ was 40 to $ in year 2000.Now 84. Japan due to zero interest rate policy got whacked from 105 to 150 by speculators. Reserve bank of india mentioned even yesterday we won’t follow other central banks in reducing rates. Food inflation can topple elected Indian govts. India is not a ponzi economy like AU,NZ, Canada (housing bubble+ brown people import>education scam + dirt ) India is buying physical gold always but buying us$ securities is like hoarding IV fluids for emergency operation due to neccessity to feed the 1.4 billion souls and keep the economy running.Indian diaspora remitting $ to home is the 2nd largest $ earner next to software exports.
IBEF :: In FY24, Indians residing abroad sent an unprecedented US$ 107 billion in remittances to their families in India, surpassing the US$ 100 billion threshold for the second consecutive year. This net remittance amount nearly doubles the combined total of US$54 billion from foreign direct investments (FDI) and portfolio investments during the same period.
From the comments section of Wolf Street.
Thanks for all of the information you provide about India.
The one thing I have been aware of about India is that fact that India’s banking system is not well developed. This is related to “India is not a ponzi economy like AU,NZ, Canada.”
What this means is that a great deal of India’s debt is in US$ or in some other currency than rupees. The result of this is the debt becomes very difficult to pay back if the rupee falls relative to the US$ or other currency. I am sure that this is one reason that the Indian interest rate has not fallen. If it fell, the currency would likely fall even farther relative to the US$.
Russia has also followed the path of little debt. Unfortunately, it doesn’t work out all that well. Growing debt is what pulls a country forward. Growing debt is a hallmark of capitalism. It works, until it doesn’t.
“Europe’s Blue Hydrogen Plans Risk Generating Annual Emissions on par With Denmark
DeSmog estimates raise questions over climate benefits as EU officials consider whether the technology should qualify for billions of euros in subsidies.”?
https://www.desmog.com/2024/10/12/europes-blue-hydrogen-plans-risk-generating-annual-emissions-on-par-with-denmark/
This is not really a surprise. According to the article:
It is necessary to burn a huge amount of additional natural gas, to implement CCS. (Then some of the CO2 captured is likely to leak out, in the next 100,000 years, but I imagine this is not considered.) The whole system becomes very large, probably requiring much fossil fuel use. It also gets to be horribly expensive, so no one can afford it.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/boeing-union-reach-tentative-deal-end-strike-ratification-vote-pending
Vote will be on Wednesday, October 23. We will see if this passes.
Things are never as they seem, or people are not as old as they claim, or pension benefits determine birth date; imagine that!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpwXswyt-zg
So at best, I am coming up on my last twenty.
One can hope they find that cubic mile of Pt real soon now.
Sabine does mention melding one’s mind into silicon and becoming part of the borg in essence as I see it. What a way to go.
Dennis L.
Your link is to a video called, “Most Age Records are Pension Fraud, Scientist Says.” It looks very much as if people, in poor areas of the world, without good record keeping, passed themselves off as older than they really were, so as to collect pensions.
We really can’t live to be much over 100.
ive been doing that for years
thought it might be confession time
poverty and low iq (low impulse control, anti-social attitudes, aggressiveness, lying, corruption) and dependency go hand in hand. not surprising.
Peoples with lower IQ have very little future time orientation . They live for the present with no regard for the future so they just mess things up.
Living for the present has a lot of benefits in a world in which life is very uncertain, and could end tomorrow. I remember a post on The Oil Drum, years ago. It was written by someone about life in Kenya. The focus was always on today, and how the joys of today were the primary focus.
The observation was made that if something bad would happen, like a death of a child, there would be grief for one day, but that was all. Life would go back to normal, and the joys of that day would be celebrated. People did not worry about what could go wrong, because that was not useful.
“go hand in hand”
The characteristics that interfere with accumulating wealth were selected against according to Clark.
Any talk of a future tech, TINA or whatever unconventional techs are now moot, after 2019 when Russia released the Hypersonic Missiles, which led to the West being unable to exploit Russia’s resources and made sure nothing will ever get done.
It is when it became certain humanity became stuck to the earth.
Musk or whatever , anything he does is, like in a ghetto lingo, “A Day Late and A Dollar Short”.
Isn’t it tragic that civ. I types are too stupid to develop needed tech? perhaps all this civ. I idea is incompatible with evolutionary principles. Many have tried to go against evolution.
It is basically an attempt to reverse evolution, but in a wrong way.
evolution states that the strongest prosper. and the strongest have hypersonics.
Back when customer service was really customer services:
https://youtu.be/t_v3w30XdhI?si=fNY094Ikwoh85bJN
In 1963, Billy Zantzinger, a rich tobacco heir, got frustrated that his drink was served late in a ball only allowed for the upper class, and struck a black server’s head with his stick and she died the next day.
Back then, no jury would convict a landowner for the death of a lowly black server, which was nothing more than a trifle. He was sentenced for six months and spent his imprisonment in relative comfort in a whites-only area.
21 years old Robert Zimmerman, listening to that news in a bus, wrote the song above, which Zantzinger was not aware of since he was not the kind of person who listened to such songs. If Zantzinger knew about that song he would have killed Zimmerman, and with the standards of the day, again he would have gotten off with a slap on the wrist since no one really would have cared too much about the death of a singer wannabe who did not contribute to society back then.
Zimmerman was smart enough to name the culprit “Zanzinger”,without the T, in case the latter wanted to sue.
Zantzinger returned to his huge tobacco farm, continued to treat his black tenants with disdain, suing them heavily when they failed to pay rent in their shacks with no running water, and won every time since the local courts sided with him.
There are not too many Zantzingers in USA, but a quick search shows that there are quite a few prominent Zantzingers, quite powerful in Maryland area where they were based on.
Zantzinger lost his farm because he failed to pay taxes, but he continued to collect rents from the farms he used to own and continued to treat the tenants as if it was 1870,with the courts siding with him every time.
In 1991 or so, some reporter who grew up listening Robert Zimmerman, now called Bob Dylan, got curious about what happened about Zantzinger and found these facts, which brought him back to infamy, and by then Bob Dylan was too big for Zantzinger to kill.
Zantzinger said these things about Dylan:whom he called a “no-account” who had distorted the facts of the original case. He told Dylan biographer Howard Sounes, “I should have sued him and put him in jail.
For a landowner like Zantzinger, Bob Dylan, famous and later a Nobel laureate, was nothing. NOTHING.
A landowner does not fear anyone except the King who can take his land away. A landowner, having a stake on Civilization, does not treat anyone without a stake as humans.
After this ruckus he lost most of his property but did not do badly because of his powerful relatives who kept him alive until he died in 2009. A quick search shows he has left some descendants. I am sure none of them are ever listening to Bob Dylan to the end of the eternity. Of course he never expressed any regrets about the death of the server. For him , he did the right thing since the server was slow and deserved to die.
Such is why customer service was good in the old days; the servers could risk death if the person being served was upset, and if the guest was powerful it was ok for him to kill the server.
Such was how Civilization was in the older days before the Great Corruption, and where we are going back since without the carbon slaves serving us it will be back to chattel.
Kulm , thanks for your post . Illuminating . US is a country of hustlers . That is what the first settlers and their offspring’s did –hustle . What is American culture ? Rap, breakdance , Snoopy dog and Cardi B . Compare this with ballet , opera , Mozart , Beethoven etc . Cancelling Russian literature by the West is a crime , not that it matters . Humanity cannot cancel Tchaikovsky , Tolstoy , Trotsky , Baryshnikov etc . The US is a nation not even 300 years old but Chinese , Indian , Persian etc are civilizations that have existed for thousands of years . Nations perish but civilizations endure .
” Such was how Civilization was in the older days before the Great Corruption, and where we are going back since without the carbon slaves serving us it will be back to chattel.”
Bullseye .
A lot of people who grew up in USA do not know that there is a world outside of United States and do not care and think the dumbed down US way of things is the only way to go.
I am so horrified by your lack of value in human life, I think I will pray for you. I think you single handed may have made me a religious man.
Human lives, like cattle lives or insect lives, mean very little. Just because something has two feet does not make the being a human.
The world does not bend to sentimental tales.
= The Kageyu (Inspector) , from the movie Hara Kiri
“Just because something has two feet does not make the being a human.”
How much wealth does one need to have to be considered human vs. subhuman? How much land does one need to own? Do you need to have a certain amount of education? Do you need a certain IQ level?
Would it be ok for those considered “Human” by you to kill at will those with Intellectual disability? How about kill those with Physical disability? How about the kill the ones who didn’t get 4.0 in high school. Or maybe kill all the ones without master’s degrees? Maybe you need a certain amount of money in the bank or real estate to have your murder count as a homicide?
Maybe we should give everyone a test and if they pass, they count as “Human” and those who fail we round up into camps to kill?
I know where the destination for you types of thinking ends, it is places like Dachau and Auschwitz.
I’ll have to admit I find these comments by Kulm pretty objectionable, too. But some of the time, there is a kernel of truth in them.
At one time, I thought there was discussion of a provision to allow people in Canada to bring a child under one year of age for voluntarily euthanasia. I didn’t find this provision now, so perhaps it was only an idea. I can imagine a less-wealthy world in which extending the life of someone who clearly has major problems is discouraged. For example, the patient or his family will have to pay for nursing home care out of their savings.
“a kernel of truth in them.”
There is now, but foreseeable technical advances are expected to eliminate the problems.
If humans stay more or less the way they are, they will be gene edited.
“The next child had been born right at the low point in the population eighty-one years later and thirty years after she and Dwight had gone through their first partial rejuvenation. They had stayed outside the clinics and the virtual worlds when they became popular and were encouraged to have a much more extensive rejuvenation and genome upgrade if they were interested in raising kids to maintain a human population presence. (The attractions of the uploaded life had turned out to be too good, and the “powers that be” whoever or whatever they might be had decided to try to stabilize a physical state human population above zero.)”
humans have been more or less the way they are for the past 1/2 m years or more
the definition of ”sameness” is whether a modern human could interbreed with one from that long ago—the answer is likely yes.
from 5m years ago, almost certainly no
so somewhere in between ”we” became modern humans, as opposed to our pre human ancestors.
neanderthals bred with cro magnons, for instance.
only a million or more years of slow change can make us into something else,–and even then we will still look like us, pretty much
not the BS of uploading, or whatever
People are already talking about editing the DNA of children. Different game when you can control what DNA they have
Abstract
Population size history is essential for studying human evolution. However, ancient population size history during the Pleistocene is notoriously difficult to unravel. In this study, we developed a fast infinitesimal time coalescent process (FitCoal) to circumvent this difficulty and calculated the composite likelihood for present-day human genomic sequences of 3154 individuals. Results showed that human ancestors went through a severe population bottleneck with about 1280 breeding individuals between around 930,000 and 813,000 years ago. The bottleneck lasted for about 117,000 years and brought human ancestors close to extinction. This bottleneck is congruent with a substantial chronological gap in the available African and Eurasian fossil record. Our results provide new insights into our ancestry and suggest a coincident speciation event.
Genomic inference of a severe human bottleneck during the Early to Middle Pleistocene transition
31 Aug 2023
Vol 381, Issue 6661
pp. 979-984
DOI: 10.1126/science.abq748
people are ”talking about mining the moons of saturn” too.
we’ll see keith
no doubt dna can be altered to eliminate genetic disorders–i am colourblind, it affects 1 in 10 men– i would prefer not to be, because its a nuisance—a genetic alteration to prevent it would have saved some of my offspring from the problem too
”going through a bottleneck ” (which I know about) isnt the same as evolving into a new species—pre-bottleneck, post bottleneck people would still be been able to interbreed—that is the definition of a ”different species”
they were not ”different species”–you are going off on an entirely different tack there
for a different species you would, as i said, have to go back 3 to 5 m years or so
“people would still be been able to interbreed”
Probably not. That seem to be the time our ancestors reduced from 24 to 23 chromosomes.
@Keith
“Foreseeable” = we don’t have it yet
We do not have a generation. At most 5 years if we are lucky, and we won’t have everything you need by that period of time.
“Foreseeable” = we don’t have it yet”
True. Genetic editing is applied to many living things but not widely to humans so far. Do you have any serious doubt that is can and will be?
“We do not have a generation. At most 5 years if we are lucky, and we won’t have everything you need by that period of time.”
I tend to think you are right on the timing. 5 years is a long time in AI and related fields. But I am not certain.
“While the United States represents about 4.2% of world population, it houses around 20% of the world’s political prisoners.”?
https://therealslog.com/2024/10/17/the-double-standards-of-those-who-always-want-double-helpings/
The system seems to be politically motivated, especially at times.
“Whenever you hear a snotty (and frustrated) European middlebrow presenting his stereotypes about Americans, he will often describe them as “uncultured,” “unintellectual,” and “poor in math” because, unlike his peers, Americans are not into equation drills and the constructions middlebrows call “high culture” – like knowledge of Goethe’s inspirational (and central) trip to Italy, or familiarity with the Delft school of painting. Yet the person making these statements is likely addicted to his iPod, wear blue jeans, and use Microsoft Word to jot down his “cultural” statements on his PC, with some Google searches here and there interrupting his composition.
Well, it so happens that America is currently far, far more creative than these nations of museumgoers and equation solvers. It is also far more tolerant of bottom-up tinkering and undirected trial and error. And globalization has allowed the United States to specialize in the creative aspect of things, the production of concepts and ideas, that is, the scalable part of the products, and, increasingly, by exporting jobs, separate the less scalable components and assign them to those happy to be paid by the hour. There is more money in designing a shoe than in actually making it. Nike, Dell, Boeing, can get paid for just thinking, organizing, and leveraging their know-how and ideas while subcontracted factories in developing countries do the grunt work and engineers in cultured and mathematical states do the noncreative technical grind. The American economy has leveraged itself heavily on the idea generation, which explains why losing manufacturing jobs can be coupled with a rising standard of living. Clearly the drawback of a world economy where the payoff goes to ideas is higher inequality among the idea generators together with a greater role for both opportunity and luck.”
-The Black Swan, Nassim Nicholas Taleb
You lost me at “boeing”.
You are right. Boeing is not doing well, right now.
Nike too.
https://www.theglobaltreasurer.com/2024/07/24/why-nike-is-struggling-while-adidas-is-soaring-in-2024/
The Black Swan was written by Taleb in 2007 when the Empire was at the zenith . Can’t blame Taleb for his writing . He was correct then , just like Hubbert was .
Nike: Placed too much of its confidence on online sales; shut down too much of in person sales.
Adidas is German. Styles are currently popular.
I’m not sure that Adidas is a long-term buy.
Ah, could someone tell me which shoe will allow me to run a four minute mile?
That’s the one I want.
Dennis L.
There are bouncy things you can put on your feet that significantly increase your running speed. Or just jump on a bicycle.
i understand that athletes with artificial lower parts of the leg can run faster, when properly trained, than those with real legs.
the answer then would seem obvious
You asked about shoes, not amputation.
Boeing and Airbus are the only two companies that can produce a jet. All others have to reverse engineer to keep up.
And things have actually soared even more since this book was published.
Amazon. They don’t even make anything.
Uber doesn’t own any cabs.
Tesla doesn’t even make any profits.
> Boeing and Airbus are the only two companies that can produce a jet. All others have to reverse engineer to keep up.
So companies like Sukhoi and Mig are just copying western tech – I don’t think so.
Disagree:
Manufacturing provides jobs, manufacturing support local industries and suppliers, manufacturing teaches real world skills which evolve to meet needs.
Manufacturing supports our citizens which is priceless.
Dennis L.
What citizens?
Like these?
https://youtu.be/k7pn8UJUFkI?si=xiSY-h2fNo2KNyE7
are they worth supporting ? You might say yes since your state has produced someone like Walz.
nope
cheap surplus energy supports all that
Norman,
All the resources were here when the Pilgrims landed. It takes knowledge and a certain society to exploit them.
Dennis L.
jobs is not what humans should be aiming for. outcomes and results is what humans should be aiming for.
elite transhumanism, entity carbon morphing, adapting
automation, advanced resource control systems
molecular/quantum manipulation/phenemona manipulation
control over nature, power
not spawning 200,000,000,000 indian shoe makers and telling them to use a spoon to keep them occupied picking up dirt
excess glut of young men with zero iq doing animal things of routine is meaningless in the long run
eschatologically if humans were doomed to use all resources and go repeatedly near-extinct, and if the only possibility was to somehow become a maximally information processing entity to avoid such a fate then the latter is infinitely more valuable than the former.
Indeed.
The median IQ of the world is 82
Jordan Peterson said the minimum IQ requirement for the most menial job in the advanced world is 83
Which means over half of the world’s pop are useless even before anything
I have argued here a few times that if the world pop declines 95-99% but the top 1-5% are preserved , the world would not have lost a thing.
People who were born outside of US and came to there tend to praise whatever it does, since they think doing so will make them more loved by the Americans.
Unfortunately, what Taleb had said on the first paragraph is all true.
The one thing USA does well is to promote swindlers. And some of them might just hit it, which they call ‘creative’.
I knew the situation at Stellantis was bad , but this bad . Fiat plants work only two days a week .
https://apnews.com/article/italy-automaker-stellantis-strike-production-plants-7add55cf5b787d6eaffd28bbc17dfa36
Strikes seem to be common when the employer can no longer make an adequate profit. The employer has employees work fewer hours. It also does not take wage increases, to keep up with the cost of living. The reason why wages are low is because the employer can’t afford to pay more. Sounds like Boeing.
Fiat has always been known and successful in producing good diesel and turbo-diesel cars, Boeing has always been known and successful in producing jet fuels airplanes (actually the only fuel for planes).
Diesel and jet fuels are exactly the fuels refined through the kind of heavy oil we often discuss here about it….
I think the difficulties come from the same reason.
I have Dodge Ram with a Fiat made Ecodiesel V6 diesel engine. Fine engine…great truck. Lots of power and torque for towing. Will be sorry to see this fine piece of engineering go unused in the future
Middle class falling deeper into poverty every day in Europe
https://youtu.be/OF71UahR4V8?si=uBkBRveUwiXuHxWY
The title is
“Petits salaires et grandes inégalités chez les Français”
Small salaries and great inequality characteristics of the French.
In French.
Switzerland and the employees who are losing their ability to pay all living costs from their wages
https://youtu.be/p325Eog-t9o?si=cxWDg6fLUwQE3nAR
Gail Tverberg says:
October 18, 2024 at 9:27 am
“Perhaps more money going back to those who are nurses, doctors, or professors is good enough. More money can be used for “investment” and speculation. There will be some money going into private schools, churches, and restaurants, indirectly.”
That has been the status quo for the last thirty maybe forty years. It was called supply-side economics or “trickle down” economics in the 1980s. It looks like the future of the economy will be more attempts at that.
(English Al Arabyia)
“Nationwide blackout in Cuba after power plant failure ”
(…)
“Cuba on Friday experienced a nationwide blackout after the island’s main power plant failed, causing the communist country’s electricity grid to collapse, the energy ministry said.
The system was left without power nationwide” after the unexpected shutdown of the Antonio Guiteras power plant, Lazaro Guerra, director general of electricity at the ministry of energy and mines, told state television.
When the thermoelectric plant shut down “the system collapsed,”
https://english.alarabiya.net/News/world/2024/10/18/nationwide-blackout-in-cuba-after-power-plant-failure-
I think that the plant that shut down was oil burning. Island nations tend to get a large share of the their electricity from oil. The Washington Post says:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/10/18/cuba-blackout-electricity-shutdown/
So nobody there can access their Bitcoins.
Enter Bam Man; Gripping your pillow tight.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_W7wqQwa-TU&pp=ygUZRW50ZXIgc2FuZG1hbiBydXNzaWEgbGl2ZQ%3D%3D
Good point, what about the local ATM?
Dennis L. .
https://goldatm.com/where-can-i-buy-goldbacks/
No problem. Until the atm gives you the ‘out of time’ code. Within 2 seconds.
I looked for an update. I found this:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/cuba-hit-by-second-nationwide-blackout-amid-worsening-energy-crisis/ar-AA1sy4cp
I suppose bitcoin is not working as well?
Dennis L.
Probably not. Nor ATMs, nor street lights.
France problems . Again Quark .
BlackhornOctober 18, 2024, 7:25 a.m.
There is a lot of pressure to make nuclear energy play a leading role in the energy transition process. Campaigns to convince the public that this energy source, once “too cheap to use”, is really clean and that it is necessary to dispel prejudices about it, often come up against stubborn reality.
France is a very valuable example in this regard. This country’s commitment to relying almost exclusively on nuclear energy is putting it in a trap from which it will have great difficulty in freeing itself. The production of 70% of the electricity consumed by the country through its 56 active reactors has its drawbacks. And it must be remembered that nuclear energy, whatever they tell us, is a real capital drain with no clear return yet, after so many years of operation.
France has to deal with many problems with its nuclear production fleet:
– Untimely closures of several of its newest plants due to technical difficulties, putting the security of supply in question on many occasions.
– The lack of sufficient alliances within the EU to support the definitive push towards nuclear as a fundamental energy in the transition. In other words, there are no funds.
– The obligation to enter into relations with countries in a different geopolitical orbit or with unstable political regimes in order to obtain the supply of uranium, which by the way, seems to be weighed down by a certain (more than) suspicion of increasing scarcity.
– The new SMR modular systems that do not end up taking off despite the constant attempts to readjust the economies of scale within the sector.
In short, nuclear does not look like it will either…
https://power.nridigital.com/future_power_technology_feb24/france-has-laid-out-ambitious-nuclear-plans-but-challenges-remain
Isn’t nuclear power ultimately dependant on fossil fuels (particularly, oil & coal), in its construction? (As are hydro, wind, & solar?)
And how about the power grids?
Nuclear power definitely depends on fossil fuels, both for construction and for any needed deconstruction of the site and care for waste products after the fact.
Fiat currencies definitely depend on full faith and debt. Both for construction and for any needed deconstruction of the economy and care for waste products after the fact.
I have a hard time seeing nuclear expand either. Not enough cheap fossil fuels or processed uranium. Too much up front investment/debt to put nuclear in place.
Gail, Phillips 66 just announced they are shutting down their major terminal and refinery in Southern CA. When I worked there in the 80’s it was a 110 barrel per day throughput. What do you think of this?
https://www.foxbusiness.com/fox-news-politics/california-oil-refinery-announces-closure-after-newsom-signs-new-law
Agamemnon put up a similar link a few hours ago.
I expect that the oil that is feeding this refinery is declining in amount. The total oil that California has been extracting has been falling since 1985.
https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=MCRFPCA2&f=M
https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=mcrfpca2&f=a
Most recent production has been 283,000 barrels per day. It may not be economical to try to keep refineries open with as little oil as is being produced in California. Of course, shipping oil to California is uphill from most everywhere, making it harder (more energy intensive) to use pipelines to ship oil to the state.
Also, Alaska has been experiencing declines in production, too. Some oil could be shipped in from Alaska.
https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=mcrfpak2&f=a
I expect that Newsom’s law gave an excuse for the inevitable close of the refinery.
I’m not sure what the issue is. Most Californians think oil can be replaced with electricity and batteries.
Education about how the economy works is at a dismal level.
“When I worked there in the 80’s it was a 110 barrel per day throughput.”
You must mean 110,000 bbl/day. The one I worked at in the 70s was 250,000 bbs per day. Smaller and older refineries are just not economical today.
“it must be remembered that nuclear energy, whatever they tell us, is a real capital drain with no clear return yet, after so many years of operation.”
Quark is totally wrong on this. Thanks to nuclear energy, France has had for almost 50 years the most abundant and cheapest electricity in Europe. I think the return has been clearly demonstrated.
Only because of ecologists promoting so called renewables (who are either useful idiots or backed by the CIA) and the UE forcing us into the “free” market of electricity (which is everything but free) the prices has skyrocketed during the last 3-4 years. This has reduced consumption by over 5% since 2020 (the trend was a plateau between 2010 and 2020). And we expect prices to rise again next year. Note that prices in Germany are still 2 times higher than in France. No surprise they are losing their industry. The euro’s weakness will no longer mask their lack of competitiveness. (Note that France has already lost most of its industry but for different reasons).
“Untimely closures of several of its newest plants due to technical difficulties, putting the security of supply in question on many occasions.”
Wrong again. In 2023 nuclear power production was up 14.84% to 320.4 TWh.
I’m not saying that nuclear power is fit for the future, because I don’t know. But it’s still the best resource we have in France. Our situation would be much more dire without nuclear.
Most early nuclear reactors were cheap to build. Then the US, Europe, Japan, and others started trying to make them safer. Trying to make them safer added huge costs.
Maintaining nuclear reactors adds costs. My impression is that France has not put adequate effort into maintaining nuclear reactors. This adds costs.
Also, France had its own uranium supply, but this has mostly run out. The US and Russia had downgraded nuclear bomb material. Now, uranium supply worldwide is not keeping up, and we are running out (or have run out) of old bomb material to downgrade. Most processing of uranium is done in Russia.
Didn’t most of France’s uranium come from importing. A certain African colony comes to mind. Apparently France was invited to leave that supplier, prices have increased it appears.
Dennis L.
You can get a uranium price chart here. Check All Years or 25 years.
https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/uranium
Price has run up recently, and has come somewhat back down. The problem is that it doesn’t permanently stay up. It is difficult to get major investment in uranium without a higher price over the longer term.
This is an article on France’s uranium imports. Niger is now the second largest source of imported uranium, according to this article.
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/les-decodeurs/article/2023/08/04/how-dependent-is-france-on-niger-s-uranium_6080772_8.html
This is a display of world uranium production by country. It only goes through 2022. Questions have been raised as to why 2023 figures aren’t shown–too terrible? https://world-nuclear.org/Information-Library/Facts-and-Figures/Uranium-production-figures
Niger’s uranium production is less than half of its peak production. World peak uranium extraction took place in 2016.
Which is why colonialism and domination over 3rd world should have continued so all resources could be extracted for nothing.
Without exploitation of the 3rd world, none of the stuff you are looking for will materialize.
A exchange on the situation of nuclear in Spain , From Quark’s blog .
Miguel
Turiel comments on the program that they have not updated the data on uranium production because it is very bad and they do not want to give it.
It is true that in June they update the data of …
https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/nuclear-fuel-cycle/mining-of-uranium/world-uranium-mining-production
and since then I have been updating almost every day to see if they put it and I have been surprised that they have been delayed for so long (4 months).
Do you think they may have the intention of hiding it? Personally, I find it very strange that something like this can be hidden (we are already seeing it delayed)
KARL_1October 17, 2024, 10:54 PM
The other day I heard these statements that seemed surprising to me. Especially for Catalonia and the risk of companies fleeing if the nuclear plants close, in fact a general energy risk on the electrical side.
https://cronicaglobal.elespanol.com/business/20241014/foment-de-estado-industria-riesgo-deslocalizaciones-cataluna/893410750_0.amp.html
SAINTOctober 18, 2024, 1:59 PM
Uranium is going through a terrible time. There are problems at the mines, production declines in some places, logistics closures in others, a lack of sulphuric acid for processing the rock and sanctions against Russia. A clear indicator of the problems is the international tender for one of the largest plants in Korea that was declared void, leaving the production of that plant in doubt once it runs out of fuel.
I think that uranium has had the same problem as fossil fuels. Places where uranium can easily be extracted are limited. Prices have not risen high enough for long enough to try to develop some of the higher cost places where supply will be available. Processing is fossil fuel intensive, and mostly done in Russia. We don’t have uranium supplies to sufficient to ramp up nuclear electricity.
Got it:
Earth is finite, mineral resources are depleting to point where they can no longer be extracted.
We are not going to make it with earth’s resources, it looks as though we don’t have to, Starship to the rescue.
Climate is changing for reasons not fully understood and subject to emotional narrative.
H is a clean energy, if there is excess it floats off into space. Combine it with O and get water. As the H most likely came from water even the oceans will not expand with excess water.
Musk is making satellites in Portland and a good guess is it is not women sitting at table soldering components on to a circuit board. It is all robotic. If we can make Starlink satellites this way, we can make drones to explore for metals in space and of course, the ideal metal is Pt which makes a H economy work. They are launched into space on a robotic Falcon 9s and pushed out the side of the rocket.
TINA unless someone here can give an alternative other than going back to a pure biologic life which will be a population crash to levels below many centuries past as even trees are scarce in many areas and soil is being destroyed by modern farming(I am a farmer, I have seen it close up and personal). That is done because the economics require turning dirt into dollars. Financialization, American needs to give that one up.
We have hope, there is a way out with current engineering. Sitting in a coffee house discussing obscure philosophy will solve nothing and lead only to despair. We can see some of this in the US with various agencies arguing against hope, they would rather see Musk fail than humanity have a chance for a decent life.
Resentment and envy are a path to misery. We have hope and engineering with available raw materials for a good chance at success.
Dennis L.
Space technology is doomed for the same exact reasons green energy is doomed here on Earth.
Humans in the future will live with Stone Age level technology.
guest:
Space technology is known engineering, much of the money for Starship apparently comes from income off solar which makes Starlink work.
You may well be right, but is some try and make it, they may not be very generous towards those waiting to say, “I told you so.”
I prefer to try.
Dennis L.
All of the above can be summarized into a short sentence : “I don’t want to die!”
A chance for a decent life for whom? Like the people who terrorized an apartment complex in Colorado? No thanks.
Total to realign production in Antwerp refinery . Less transportation fuels more plastics .
https://x.com/aeberman12/status/1847234277370368488/photo/1
Sounds like the available products for the refinery are mostly very light. Very light products tend to make plastics rather than transportation fuels.
USD 500 billion in 3 weeks . Money printing galore .
https://x.com/Geiger_Capital/status/1847039572212924834/photo/1
Wow! Spend! Spend! Spend! before the election.
Last year I built a robot which would communicate with laptop via wireless internet directly, peer to peer. It would avoid running into obstructions and more or less follow a white line of masking tape, while relaying a real time video image to my laptop. The kid’s camera, same Raspberry Pi didn’t work, score one for the old guy.
Have not used chatbot to write code, Copilot will write routines and correct syntax errors.
This kid 3D prints his projects. My CC has a 3 credit course in the CNC lab. My CC uses the same electronic test equipment, for $1000 one can have a very complete electronic lab.
What is incredible is this apparently is a kid in his bedroom, nice house, lives in Poland. Per Copilot, he is 19 years old.
ChatGPT may or may not be having a conversation with the kid. If so, at 9:30 chatGPT does not think much about the code the kid has written, geez.
What this kid is doing couldn’t be done at MIT say ten years ago by a PhD student.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3sSp1PQtVQ
Many of the courses at my CC are now online, packaged. Cengage is one of my favorite textbook companies, the texts are very well written and seem much cleaner than math texts of my youth. Additionally one can take a “licensing” exam with many of these courses at the end. Accreditation by a back door. Cisco seems to have been a leader in this.
This stuff is hard to get into, once in it seems much easier. Parallax.com has some interesting educational kits, they are cheap.
Yes, I am interested in an autonomous crp mower, riding a tractor is not fun for me.
If this works, then make a “wing man” to follow along with the leader, two mowers in formation as it were. Some of us never really grow up. There is a guy on YouTube who robotically changes batteries in his robots for lawn care, charged by solar? Interruptible problem solved? Or go H, again there is a fellow in the Eastern US who supposedly runs his house and car on H, stored in old propane tanks.
I know, everything is going to grind to a stop, yet, not all is doom and gloom.
A cubic mile of Pt would be a good start to solving many of our problems.
Our social problems are going to be interesting, life is going very fast for many.
Dennis L.
You and the polish kid are just playing video games.
Life might go very fast for the highest few but that won’t include you or the Polish kid.
No kul,
He has a physical machine built from scratch with 3D printing avoiding obstacles more or less – I did this more or less, for less than $300 worth of parts, hacked phthon and really hacked networking. it is impressive technology. 3D printing is on the list, but the amount of knowledge with each technology becomes huge. This kid has amassed a breath of knowledge, Look at his bedroom, seems like a nice Polish house. My favorite scientist was Polish, Maria Sklodowska; she was pretty damn bright, two Nobel prizes and her daughter Irene one.
There are those who claim to have GPS controlled mowers; I have not verified but it is on my list.
There are those who change batteries robotically on GPS mowers; it is on my list. Charge the batteries with solar, it is a local use with no transmission losses and great news, no burning of forests secondary to poor maintenance – joke kul, joke, well sort of. Of course, H would be far superior.
There are those who seemingly can recognize weeds and cause them to be zapped with literal solar energy.
Code is available on GetHub, open source; reading it is a challenge. It is not trivial but then, I am wondering if chatGPT can give a hand. That reduces the time required greatly.
The technology available to the general population is cheap and it is incredible.
We are biology at base and that is going to make for some interesting times. I am silent on that issue.
Dennis L.
The only thing the Polish woman and her daughter did well was finding men to do their work and riding on to their coattails. I have absolutely zero respect over them.
All of these, in the grand scheme, are children’s play, not changing the general picture a bit. They let people like you and the Polish kid play on until the crunch,
The peasants are allowed to play at wintertime when there are no work. When planting season comes, back to back breaking work.
kul,
You are too gloomy for me. If someone like me makes these things work, we will give you a broom to sweep the walk.
Disagree regarding Mari, she worked incredibly hard in a male dominated world and won two Nobels for her effort. One could bed luck, but two is not luck.
Her daughter, Eve, wrote a nice biography, try reading it in French, it is better than the translation.
Dennis L.
Which completely omits Maria’s dalliances with Paul Langevin, who mostly did her work after Pierre Curie died.
Ironically a great grand daughter of Marie married a grandson of Langevin, I hear.
Starship, again:
https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/french-media-blames-spacex-2500-airbus-layoffs-elon-musk-leads-rocket-race
Not directly Starship, Musk monopolizing satellite launches; it is the efficiency of manufacturing.
Vague discussion seems to be surfacing about Optimus, Musk is closed mouthed as are the people who work for him.
Musk recently made headlines by diverting an order for $500 million worth of chips from Nvidia. Have no idea where they are going or if it makes a difference; impossible to know what “they” are thinking once fired up.
Starship is making incredible advances, a guess is AI is monitoring and directing much of the flight and docking as well as collecting other data and making almost or actual real-time analysis of what happens during the flight. SpaceXs ability to do real time video from the ships as they fly and separate is incredible. NASA in days of old needed large ground stations around the globe to do less.
There is a great deal of interest in moons, Falcon Heavy sent a probe to Jupiter’s moon Europa.
My uninformed guess is there are metals in the solar system not in ore form, hard to oxidize things in a vacuum.
We don’t know what we don’t know.
As always, a cubic mile of Pt would be convenient about now. Toyota is looking at cartridges of H to power cars; instant fill up. H would make EV’s very practical.
Dennis L.
Just more scheme to separate investors from their money
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/world-set-cheaper-energy-shift-040000331.html
I thought this was an interesting “programming “ article. The average Joe will see the headline and think yup we are not going to need as much oil in the future
People won’t be able to afford this oil or electricity. This is what will cause surpluses and low prices.
Energy is the economy
Andrew wondered why it doesn’t seem like there’s a crisis. Newsom got the msg.
There probably isn’t an energy shortage for quite a while. Then in 2150 when things should be really bad people in their starships will be going ape crazy.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/fox-news-politics/california-oil-refinery-announces-closure-after-newsom-signs-new-law
People in California will have even less access to oil than they have now, after it closes by the end of 2025. I expect that amount of oil available to refine was falling.
Electricity access won’t be any better.
2050 is twenty six years away. Looking back ten years, the progress is incredible.
I believe Gail when she says oil is not in our future.
We have engineering to enter and work in space, we have robots coming on line which can work autonomously.
I did a Copilot question some time ago regarding Pt, there is plenty in the solar system, all we need to do is find it. We have the engineering to do that; it will be close, but we will do it.
Dennis L.
“all we need to do is find it. ”
We already know where it is, metal asteroids. Getting there and getting it out is the problem.
” We have the engineering to do that; ”
Not simple, but yes. https://htyp.org/Mining_Asteroids
“Norman Pagett says:
October 17, 2024 at 7:04 pm
stop nitpicking nope
Africans sold Africans to white guys, just as Africans sell their oil to white guys now
Some white guys with a sense of decency tried to put a stop to it.
America went to war with itself over it.
The British government actually bought ‘slave investments’ from British people, in order to ”buy” their freedom.
Certain white guys would like to turn the clock back.”
Details matter, Norman. Sub-saharan Africans are not a monolithic group. Racial solidarity does not exist in Africa. What matters in Africa are kinship and what tribe someone belongs to.
Oh, brother, the white man’s burden of trying to improve a race of people who never asked to be improved. Has the white man ever improved any race other than its own?
Slavery was necessary for agrarian societies in Africa because there was no high tech or beasts of burden to do work.
I don’t know of any white guys who want to enslave blacks again. Even the people who agree with segregation do not romanticize slavery in any sort of way.
I’m not even going to explain how moooooooooooooooor0nic it is to compare slavery to oil exports.
its all about the export of energy to make money
if you export human beings, or export oil the motivation is exactly the same.
if you can’t see that, then it is beyond me to explain it
WIT82 says:
“Disposable lives were treated properly” If we start to treat human life as disposable, we will create a world not worth living in.
Kulm says:
Like most of human history before 1917?
Concentrating everything to the top, and leaving nothing to the rest, saved resources and made the elites engage in activities which advanced civilization for others.
After 1917 the elites had to fear the masses, who wasted the world’s resources in once-a-billion-years bonanza.
Even the Tibetan monks installed satellite dishes to watch soccer. What is that?
The world’s precious resources were wasted in frivolous activities like that. Now there are talks of sending starships to some asteroids. Such stunts, even if actually implemented, would be like the voyage of argonauts, which was a huge deal in the ancient world, a once-done-then-forgotten thing.
Throughout history the lives of lower middle and lower classes did NOT matter and that is the proper state of things. It is impossible to take 8 billion people to the future.
Some of the music is pretty good, Bach, Beethoven, Brahms. Mozart was not exactly a rich man, he left is mark as well.
Many great cathedrals were built, they were venues for such music. Given the state of today’s music, it doesn’t seem like we have progressed much.
We are biology, biology works; seems like we humans were down to less than 10,000 breeding pairs give or take and here we are, exploring space with rockets caught on the return trip instead of being discarded.
Patience little grasshopper.
Dennis L.
lidia
(snip)
Why you think humans would ever have an aseptic future in an anoxic vacuum at a temperature below that of liquid nitrogen is anybody’s guess.
Kulm answers
an aseptic future in an anoxic vacuum is preferable since there is no chance of disease or malfunction
Since that will be needed to conquer the space that is the preferable method
Nothing cannot go under 0K degrees,so there is a limit on how cold it can get
WIT82
There are no “higher dimensions of civilization”. There is no Übermensch, only us Apes.
Kulm answers
The world Ubermensch has been corrupted because of Nietzsche’s sister who wanted to curry favor to the National Socialists.
Perhaps the best way to describe it would be the pig Napoleon in George Orwell’s book Animal Farm. Napoleon and his core pigs achieved human level intelligence and began to be treated in the same league along with humans, although that did not help other pigs.
So they achieved Uberswein status.
It cannot be denied that today’s winners, whether you like or not, are better than others.
The rise of the billionaires
https://greyenlightenment.com/2024/10/08/the-continued-rise-of-billionaires-and-the-decline-of-institutions/
(He wants to use the German word but that is not cool so he substitutes it with the word ‘billionaire’. The only reason I don’t follow him 100% is because he does not believe in resource depletion.)
It is evolution, whether you like it or not.
Your link is interesting. A couple of quotes:
Also,
Moral guidance is needed somewhere. I am not sure that celebrities are the ones to provide the guidance.
His moral compass is quite different from those who are older fashioned. He does not see anything wrong about the rich and the smarter people exploiting the rest, and encourages it since it is for the greater god.
He does qualify the Hollywood types as “mainstream/Hollywood celebrities”. For him celebrities are like Joe Rogan , Jordan Peterson and others famous in the geeksphere.
I presume you mean “greater good” rather than “greater god.” Or maybe money is now the god.
Sorry, yes, I meant to say the Greater Good.
Absolutely agree.
“Moral guidance is needed somewhere. I am not sure that celebrities are the ones to provide the guidance.”
Billionaires can get us someplace in a hurry, but is that someplace we want to be?
Can anyone name the wealthiest man in the time of Christ?
Not matter what your belief, the man(God) has/had staying power.
Dennis L.
That’s a really good question.
Without their investment your project go nowhere.
Crassus, although a bit before Joshua of Nazareth.
And around Josh’s time, Emperors were usually the richest people of the time, so Claudius.
After Nietzsche, the guy in the upstairs got a bit weaker.
Was Plato wealthy?
Was John the Baptist wealthy?
Then there was that fellow Pontius Pilate.
Per Copilot,
” Known for severity toward the Jews, Pilate was eventually ordered back to Rome to stand trial for cruelty and oppression. A tradition of uncertain accuracy holds that he killed himself on orders from Caligula in 39 ce; another legend relates that both Pilate and his wife converted to Christianity.”
Wealth and fame did not seem to come from his political power.
Man, to live in infamy for thousands of years is not much of an epitaph.
Who was the wealthiest man at that time? Who are his heirs?
A job of a man is to find a good wife and have children better than himself. Combined with learning a career, making a career and a living and finding a mate it is only a man who is qualified for that job. Well, maybe the last is a bit over the top, but after all the male bashing it feels good.
We are biology and culture helps make us “humane.”
Dennis L.
Plato was wealthy enough to travel to Sicily whenever he felt like.
Pilate is immortalized in the Apostle’s Creed where millions of them recite his name every day, and also
https://youtu.be/NJ8LjbTdMfs?si=L39XRfGAX_R3Fy-h
Which commemorates him to this day as every traveler to Lucerne, Switzerland’s favorite tourist trap, has seen. Not bad for someone who was basically a colonial administrator.
And nobody in the New Testament left descendants since they were keen to get killed . There was a guy named Philip, either a disciple or an earlier believer who ministered to an African eunuch, and
Acts 21:9
Philip had four unmarried daughters who had the ability to speak what God had revealed.
So no descendants. Apparently no one listened to you.
The only person in New Testament who might have living descendants, other than all these sundry people in the Revelation, is ironically Salome, the woman who had John the Baptist killed. She married and had 3 sons, who moved to Northern Syria long before the end of the House of Herod, and are never mentioned again. Chances are they remained as the local notables in that region, and some of them might be still prominent in Assad’s regime.
Who was the winner according to your logic? Salome is the winner.
Kul,
I favor
“God is dead” Nietzsche
“Nietzsche is dead” God.
Dennis L.
Cancer cases in England hit record high – with almost 1,000 people diagnosed every day
Cancer cases have hit a record high, with almost 1,000 people a day diagnosed, according to latest NHS figures. There were 346,217 diagnoses in England throughout 2022 – 5 per cent higher than the 329,664 recorded in 2021.
https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/1-000-people-are-diagnosed-with-cancer-every-day-in-the-uk-data-shows/ar-AA1ssyMB
The commonest cancer was prostate cancer. There was a question whether there had been a cutback in appointments during Covid, and more appointments after Covid. Hard to say if this is very significant.
The Westminster government admitted in parliament, after they changed how deaths are recorded and before a single person was fraudulently listed as having died of rebranded influenza, that their actions, without doubt would kill 200,000 people needlessly. Two weeks later and on the quiet, they revised that number up to 500,000.
Yes, they knew in advance that they were about to murder half a million of their own countrymen and did it anyway, because scaring the shit out of people and turning them on each other was needed, so no one payed any attention to the 1000 laws they changed in little over 700 days(most without any parliamentary oversight). I’ve posted their own pandemic advice before, which was quite clear about the outcome of taking those actions, so dismiss anyone who claims they didn’t know.
The jabs seem to be taking their toll, as I’m hearing more cancers and other ailments than ever, by a large margin. There’s a lot more than the terminal going on. It’s like certain steps on the decline have been taken out. People seem to be going from fine to debilitatied without the usual signs, but they’ll blame it all on the above and of course claim they didn’t know, which most will be grateful to accept rather than admit their own gullibility and shadow that gullibility has placed over their own future.
Still on the bright side, when pushed for a reason how population would drop so quickly, the authors of the infamous Deagal report claimed suicide and with so many people becoming debilitated and broke, maybe they’ll all off themselves . It’ll be high fives and corks popping all around the Deagal office.
“rebranded influenza,”
I wish you would quit that. it’s like saying that wolves are the same as hyenas. Shows an abysmal level of understanding of classification and undermines any valid points you might have
huh?
Covic-19 and influenza are different viruses.
Influenza is an all encompassing word for seasonal respiratory illness. Not all flus are covid, but some are and were.
“Influenza is an all encompassing word”
If you can support that, you should rewrite the Wikipedia article.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza
Influenza, commonly known as the flu, is an infectious disease caused by influenza viruses. Symptoms range from mild to severe and often include fever, runny nose, sore throat, muscle pain, headache, coughing, and fatigue. These symptoms begin one to four (typically two) days after exposure to the virus and last for about two to eight days. Diarrhea and vomiting can occur, particularly in children. Influenza may progress to pneumonia from the virus or a subsequent bacterial infection. Other complications include acute respiratory distress syndrome, meningitis, encephalitis, and worsening of pre-existing health problems such as asthma and cardiovascular disease.
There are four types of influenza virus: types A, B, C, and D. Aquatic birds are the primary source of influenza A virus (IAV), which is also widespread in various mammals, including humans and pigs. Influenza B virus (IBV) and influenza C virus (ICV) primarily infect humans, and influenza D virus (IDV) is found in cattle and pigs. Influenza A virus and influenza B virus circulate in humans and cause seasonal epidemics, and influenza C virus causes a mild infection, primarily in children. Influenza D virus can infect humans but is not known to cause illness. In humans, influenza viruses are primarily transmitted through respiratory droplets from coughing and sneezing. Transmission through aerosols and surfaces contaminated by the virus also occur.
Frequent hand washing and covering one’s mouth and nose when coughing and sneezing reduce transmission. Annual vaccination can help to provide protection against influenza. Influenza viruses, particularly influenza A virus, evolve quickly, so flu vaccines are updated regularly to match which influenza strains are in circulation. Vaccines provide protection against influenza A virus subtypes H1N1 and H3N2 and one or two influenza B virus subtypes. Influenza infection is diagnosed with laboratory methods such as antibody or antigen tests and a polymerase chain reaction (PCR) to identify viral nucleic acid. The disease can be treated with supportive measures and, in severe cases, with antiviral drugs such as oseltamivir. In healthy individuals, influenza is typically self-limiting and rarely fatal, but it can be deadly in high-risk groups.
In a typical year, five to 15 percent of the population contracts influenza. There are 3 to 5 million severe cases annually, with up to 650,000 respiratory-related deaths globally each year. Deaths most commonly occur in high-risk groups, including young children, the elderly, and people with chronic health conditions. In temperate regions, the number of influenza cases peaks during winter, whereas in the tropics, influenza can occur year-round. Since the late 1800s, pandemic outbreaks of novel influenza strains have occurred every 10 to 50 years. Five flu pandemics have occurred since 1900: the Spanish flu from 1918 to 1920, which was the most severe; the Asian flu in 1957; the Hong Kong flu in 1968; the Russian flu in 1977; and the swine flu pandemic in 2009.
we will agree ot disagree. corona viruses are genetically similar to two of the main 4 flu groups, specifically A and B. and covid does play like a flu. It is also obvious that there is a continuum of viruses between cold and flu, with corona being mostly associated with colds (I myself can’t tell the difference from getting one or the other).
Covid is utterly unrelated to any of the flu viruses. And there is no continuum between one virus family and another.
Influenza viruses do swap segments of RNA between them. It’s call reassortment and is the main way that new-to-us flu pandemics come about.
The covid-19 corona virus just mutates. Fortunately for us it has been in the direction of more infectious, but less lethal.
The folks creating the Covid virus started with a cold virus. It should be closely related to a lot of other things that have been around for a long time.
That makes no sense. If they were trying to make something lethal, why not start with Ebola, Marburg virus or or smallpox..
They spliced on a piece of AIDS virus, I believe.
They wanted it to spread.
“They spliced on a piece of AIDS virus, I believe.”
The genome of HIV is exceptionally well known It would have been noticed years ago. HIV is a poor bioweapon unless you have an insane amount of patience.
Some of the information you are picking up on this topic is really unreliable.
If it plays like a flu, with symptoms similar to a flu, IFR similar to a flu, cure similar to a flu, seasonality similar to a flu, perhaps we are splitting hairs. Hyena and wolves are indeed similar from my point of view. you don’t want to run into a pack of them while hiking.
The big difference is that being vaccinated for flu or covid-19 will not help you a bit to fight off the other. Neither will being vaccinated for measles, polio, mumps, or rabies make a difference.
A major issue is that neither flu or covid vaccines do very much to help you fight off the disease that they are intended to prevent. They don’t kill the virus, or keep the disease from occurring. They might give you a slightly less severe case, but with downsides. The virus continues on, and is encouraged to mutate by the very weak vaccine. Your own immune system is somewhat damaged, making it less able to fight off new viruses of these kinds. Overall, it is doubtful that a person is better off by taking the vaccines.
We know that attempts at cold vaccines have failed repeatedly. Both covid and flu are too close to the common cold to have vaccines that work well at all.
“They don’t kill the virus, ”
Vaccines have *never* killed viruses. Their only function is to prime your immune system and give that system a head start.
“or keep the disease from occurring”
That depends. https://www.cdc.gov/flu-vaccines-work/php/effectiveness-studies/past-seasons-estimates.html
Over the last 20 yeas flu vaccines have ranged from 10% to 60% in preventing people from getting flu at all. If you are vaccinated and get flu anyway, they reduce the chances of going into the ICU or dying by around 30%,
Covid has changed a lot, and most of us carry antibodies against it either from vaccination or infection (or both). But in the early days, vaccination massively reduced the death rate. You can look up the data or if you can’t, ask and I will find it.
“We know that attempts at cold vaccines”
There are something like 500 viruses that cause colds. I am not aware of any attempt such as you mention. But I might be wrong, got a pointer?
“There are something like 500 viruses that cause colds.”
Are you just repeating received “knowledge” or do you happen to have a link to a scientific study that proves that one of these “500 viruses” causes colds, or anything else?
I haven’t been able to find one yet, and I’m looking forward to it, so I can start believing, as “everyone else”, in the pathogenicity of Viruses (TM).
If you are serious, starting with the Wikipedia page would be one approach
“A virus is a submicroscopic infectious agent that replicates only inside the living cells of an organism.[1] Viruses infect all life forms, from animals and plants to microorganisms, including bacteria and archaea.[2][3] Viruses are found in almost every ecosystem on Earth and are the most numerous type of biological entity.[4][5] Since Dmitri Ivanovsky’s 1892 article describing a non-bacterial pathogen infecting tobacco plants and the discovery of the tobacco mosaic virus by Martinus Beijerinck in 1898,[6]: 4 more than 11,000 of the millions of virus species have been described in detail.[7][8] ”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virus
It’s a huge topic.
I didn’t ask you for a wikipedia entry, I asked you for a scientific article proving that virus A causes disease Z.
As I expected, you don’t have it.
Apparently, you don’t need proof to believe in something, you just need to consult the so-called scientific consensus. You’re not the only one here, quite the contrary.
I didn’t ask you for a wikipedia entry, I asked you for a scientific article proving that virus A causes disease Z.
“Koch’s postulates (/kɒx/ KOKH)[2] are four criteria designed to establish a causal relationship between a microbe and a disease”
It is 140 years old. I have known about it since I was in the fourth grade and read Microbe Hunters.
“As I expected, you don’t have it.”
Try sticking “Koch’s postulates” in Google.
“Apparently, you don’t need proof to believe in something, you just need to consult the so-called scientific consensus. You’re not the only one here, quite the contrary.”
If you are serious, I have some ditch water for you. Do you actually believe that microorganisms are not out to kill us? If so, you are not paranoid enough.
It’s really not Keith. What you have gone along with is the equivalent of comparing wolves with werewolves. One exists in the real world and the other doesn’t.
Tell me a single symptom that differentiates between them?
Tell me what happened to influenza, when the made up, that stole all its symptoms was lurking on your screen(not the real world)?
Tell me why a year later influenza suddenly reappeared and because they are definitely different they then lumped them together in all statistics(it’s almost like they are trying and succeeding in baffling the gullible, whilst hiding the evidence from the more curious)?
Tell me why a supposed virus with the exact same symptoms as influenza, needs proven treatments for those very symptoms cast aside, even when doctors said they work and the new treatments didn’t(those doctors were promptly cast aside as well), or the fact that all new treatments were known respiratory inhibitors?
We did this all last time you were here Keith and you ignored all the CDC/NHS/ONS/WHO info I provided, as you will now ignore all the inconsistencies in the events of 20-21.
You’re the same with the genetic rubbish you spout about greedy genes and such like. Read a bit of Denis Noble(I gave you a link to him before as well) and you might not be so enamoured with a book of mostly self aggrandising piffle(maybe I shouldn’t be surprised). The only real and provable thing we seem to have found about behaviour in genetics is the defective side, like those schizophrenic Europeans genociding children in Palestine. That’s provable, nothing you write about genes or fantasy viruses is. Your version of genetics is just the latest branding of the eugenics society and as defective as every other attempt. If you all stopped looking outward for defects and looked in, I’m sure you will find the curse and that’s the only genetic exceptionalism you will ever find. While you’re at it, ask yourself why this desperate and unproven need to show your special, after more than 100 years of trying and failing is so important. Your looking in all the wrong places if you want to fill that void.
Remember Keith, anyone that accepted the 100% Safe & Effective lie, automatically revealed to all that they have no idea about science. You believed that lie without question Keith and still do it appears. You have no place talking down to anyone, ever again.
https://youtu.be/EAnCeMvY2ZM?feature=shared
You should have listened to Lisa, Homer.
https://youtu.be/xSVqLHghLpw?feature=shared
Oh and Keith, you are not going to live forever, just like no one ever has, or ever will, but as with all the above there has been lots of fantasy written about it, although there are those that are undoubtedly thankful for the free lunch service you provide. Try the real world while you still can. It’s fun and not as dangerous as they say. Do be on your guard though, the screen huggers will believe anything and so should be avoided.
“One exists in the real world and the other doesn’t.”
The idea that corona viruses are the same as influenza viruses is nonsense. They have different genetic coding, look different and have different wild sources, bats for corona and birds for influenza.
You are not the first to confuse the two. Around 1900 there was something called Russian flu which raced around Europe. It is currently being looked at as a possible corona virus that may have jumped from cattle. It is still being worked on, but they people looking into this think one of the corona viruses that causes colds may be the long time evolved remains of that epidemic.
“Tell me a single symptom that differentiates between them?”
Long Covid is not caused by influenza. The 1918 flu rarely caused something distinct and even worse as described by Sacks in Awakings.
“Tell me why a year later influenza suddenly reappeared”
Both spread though aerosols. Taking drastic measures to hold down the spread of Covid also chopped into the spread of flu. When we eased up on the measures against Covid, flu (which never completely quit circulating) came back. No surprise.
“that all new treatments were known respiratory inhibitors?”
A “respiratory inhibitor” does not sound like a medical treatment. You must have left out something.
“after more than 100 years of trying”
I am old, but not *that* old.
” just like no one ever has, or ever will, ”
30 years ago no one ever had or ever would have a smart phone. I am very reluctant to make definite statements about the future.
Incidentally, I fault WHO and the CDC for not recognizing the value of masks sooner than they did.
Keith, I’m not the one confusing anything. I’ll keep it short, but there’s a couple of falsehoods that are glaring.
“Long Covid is not caused by influenza”
People have been known to take a long time to shake off influenza effects. Yes Keith, a LONG time, get it, it just wasn’t promoted to those who need their thoughts injected through the screen. The promotion(and didn’t they promote it, but a bit too early if you think about it) of that particular piece of codswallop was purely prep work. Can you guess for what?
Nothing chopped into influenza, it disappeared worldwide, or at least it did for those susceptible to bs. The measures, according to you(accepting WHO figures), eradicated influenza worldwide for over a year, but another virus, one that spreads in exactly the same way, has all the same symptoms, yes ALL Keith, that no one can tell apart from influenza, ran rampant for the exact same amount of time(how fortuitous). Then to cap it off, after demonising everyone that pointed out the bleeding obvious, they lumped them together in the statistics(because they are indistinguishable) and you apparently can’t see any issues with that. Basically, if they had said and done nothing, nothing would of happened, because there was no pandemic outside of your media ingestion.
Thanks for trying to answer the questions and don’t forget, we’re all going to die, without fail, no exceptions, ever. Don’t deny the only birthright we are universally given. Fearing the inevitable is a shocking waste of time.
The Med Page Today I quoted before said,
(Vaccine effectiveness for 2020-2021 was never estimated because of low viral circulation due to COVID pandemic precautions.)
A better description might be that they couldn’t tell them apart. There was higher reimbursement of health care groups if they coded them as covid. There was no point in coding them as influenza.
Yes, I have posted the WHO advice(demand) for HCPs and untrained others before and that’s a major part of the problem. Using the system that worked for over a hundred years, before it was dumped in 2020, would give us an average to high death count for an influenza season. We generally get a high every 7-8 years and were due one(solar activity confirms this) around then.
I wouldn’t trust anything you read about efficiency(start at 0% and work your way down as the adverse effects start to kick in). It’s all hugely distorted in their favour, although do keep looking, as they seem to regularly undo their own bs, which is thoughtful.
LOl. I ask you for a scientific study and all you can answer is “Kock’s postulates”.
You’re a joke, pal. Bye.
“LOl. I ask you for a scientific study and all you can answer is “Kock’s postulates”.”
You asked for proof about diseases being caused by a specific organism. Kock’s postulates is how scientists prove the association of a specific virus or bacterium with a disease. If you know how to use google, you can get 1000 examples.
Your response indicates that you don’t want an answer. That’s OK, I understand why people have beliefs that are at odds with the science view of reality. Even wrote a paper on it that is still being downloaded after more than 20 years.
At least you don’t believe in astrology . . . or do you?
More on the Scum of Earth
Arthur Wellesley, the First Duke of Wellington, called his rank soldiers as ‘The Scum of Earth’.
At that time the nobles, the gentry and the well to do did NOT consider the common folk as humans, but something below that.
In the book Wuthering Heights, the orphan Heathcliff, who didn’t even have a surname, got to own the manor house where he was a servant, but his line is not allowed to continue and in the end the old owners return with a revenge, with a capital R, who allow Heathcliff’s house to fall apart.
People like Michael Faraday and James Maxwell had wives who invariably failed to reproduce. Why, I don’t know. Perhaps the gynaecologists of the day, coming from doctor’s families,decided talents from the wrong side of walks should not reproduce.
In 1872, Jules Verne wrote Around the world in 80 days, about Phileas Fogg, whose origin is unknown, other than a hint at the end that he was a sailor.
>[Fogg] was never seen on ’Change, nor at the Bank, nor in the counting-rooms of the “City”; no ships ever came into London docks of which he was the owner; he had no public employment; he had never been entered at any of the Inns of Court, either at the Temple, or Lincoln’s Inn, or Gray’s Inn; nor had his voice ever resounded in the Court of Chancery, or in the Exchequer, or the Queen’s Bench, or the Ecclesiastical Courts. He certainly was not a manufacturer; nor was he a merchant or a gentleman farmer. His name was strange to the scientific and learned societies, and he never was known to take part in the sage deliberations of the Royal Institution or the London Institution, the Artisan’s Association, or the Institution of Arts and Sciences. He belonged, in fact, to none of the numerous societies which swarm in the English capital, from the Harmonic to that of the Entomologists, founded mainly for the purpose of abolishing pernicious insects.
In other words, if your name did not appear in Burke’s book of peerage, the Book of Gentry or at least one of the organizations named above, you were a scum of the earth.
Not surprisingly Fogg was considered unmarrigeable,and marries a Farsi widow in the end, keeping him (and any possible descendants) eternally out of British society.
Such method of keeping the scum of earth out of any power led Great Britain truly Great, to the top of the world.
The lower-middle and lower class of United Kingdom treat people like Arthur Harris as a national hero since he valued the life of such scum of earth higher than the castle of Dresden. I see Harris a piece of shit. I don’t care what he did in Iraq and other places, but the Castle of Dresden was valued much higher than the value of a fusilier’s life, which is very disposable.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temporary_gentlemen
I did not read the article, but the guy at the photo, David Nelson, appears to be a protestant from Ireland. He became an officer during the first days of the Great War.
Thanks to Chucky and his 200/400 Worcestershire, a lot of people who would never have been allowed to positions of leadership had chances to become officers for the first time.
Originally, they were called Temporary Gentlemen, since after the war they were to be reverted back to their lowly position, as if nothing had happened. However the war lasted too long, and the toll on the leading class so great, that the temporary gentlemen stayed that way. The guy in the photo, David Nelson, began the war as a Sergeant and temporarily made into a Major but if Chucky didn’t fk up he would have returned as a Sergeant, as if nothing happened at all.
Thanks to Chucky,David Nelson died as a Major in 1918 and his rank was not pushed down to his proper rank after his death.
The scum of earth, who never could reach leadership, now overtook the not-as-Great-as-before Britain,and 100 years later we know what happened when the scum of earth rules it.
How do you know that today’s Maxwell and Faraday will not escape to Russia? Today there is much more consciousness, plus the urge to reproduce is primary. and obviously the nation with the biggest brains will last longer. I am afraid that all the UK elites human sacrifices and pe*ophilia will be for naught.
It is too late. Collateral descendants (those descended from their cousins) of Faraday and Maxwell did not show any talents.
The UK elites might still engage the activities their predecessors had engaged on, but the amount of scum genes, although no one really did a genetic test, seems to be great.
I have not really studied the geneaologies of the British elites recently, but quite a few of them would now have unfiltered scum genes which is why they are much less competent than their equivalents 100 years ago.
the difference maker these days is resources (which the mind can do nothing about, except get along with those who have resources) and advanced weapons. there is at least a one generation gap in hypersonics between russia and the west. I think your elites were looking at other things, including pre-1917. I think you are ultimately dreaming of dissipative structures to never die. but die they do, and it is all very mechsnistic, and your thesis is no better than those offered by Dennis.
“escape to Russia?”
From what I know about the subject, the traffic has mostly been out of Russia.
When I looked at UN population data, it shows immigrants moving into Russia, year after year. The only year with a net outflow from Russia was 1992.
Population has been falling because the number of births per woman has been low. Recently, it has been 1.45.
Up thread this started with today’s Maxwell and Faraday going to Russia.
As I recall from the news stories, a large number of computer people left Russia due to the Ukraine war.
Yes, and yandex wanted to move its headquarters to Tel Aviv. I don’t think they still think about it. But Russia has been for several years the second biggest immigration destination in the world. I think the lack of computer experts is overblown. A friend found a good job, but another (database expert) is still looking after one year.
Sad collapsing new zealand has found a unique fuel saving method for its navy.
Hire not for skills but diversity (LGBTQ+) to captain a ship and watch what happens:
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/529935/nz-navy-ship-runs-aground-off-samoa-catches-fire-and-sinks
Not a shot fired!
I see that the passengers and crew are all safe, except for a few minor injuries. Life rafts and other boats helped.
Yes, and now there will be a massive bill to clean up the 0.2 million litres of spilled diesel fuel.
The total cost of this fiasco will be NZ$250 million or US$150 million. This is a lot of money for the dying islands of new zealand, easily the most woke country on the planet.
Meanwhile the donkey ex-prime minister, the most hated figure in the country, receives a damehood from Billy at the palace. Dame (lame) Jacinda was the one who purchased the sunken vessel and staffed it with lovelies of the LGBTQ+ variety.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/top/531019/jacinda-ardern-receives-damehood-from-prince-william
The sinking of the vessel has been called a triumph by the Minister of Defence because no one died.
Also, calling the captain an incompetent idiot might have hurt the captain’s feelings.
Small town, with lots of issues;
Room of 30, one person comments that its been 2 years of trauma for her partner since the moment of his gene therapy injaction; no ability to function, on medical compo ( pathetic amount in woke-joke NZ).
Another participant comments; his son was airlifted to regional hospital as soon as injection recieved; 22 yr old having heart attacks, and 4 years later still not fit to live. While in hospital his best mate also airlifted in a few days later. Neither of them have recovered and still experiencing heart attacks. Bad batch?
Parents have enlisted legal team to challenge the ‘ safe and effective’ stab against NZ govt agency.
1st cardiologist to agree to testify struck off by NZ medical mafia (NZMedical council).
2nd cardiologist agreed to testify it was the gene therapy jab; struck off.
3rd cardiologist; same same.
Fourth cardiologist is an overseas professional; this could be interesting…
And the Jabcinda biatch gets a Knothood from the worst pack of bludgers in the world; there are no gas meters, water meters or electricity meters at Buck-shiete house.
Are these people the chosen ones of the Type I civ K?
They were all in love with dyin’
They were drinking from a fountain
That was pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain…
Wokester-virus; declare a pandemic; its here, its there, its everywhere!!!
Lets call it ‘ Cov-Woke2020’.
‘In combination with the farm slump, DEI backlash hit Deere this summer, forcing it to abandon “cultural awareness parades” and scale back on promoting a “woke” workplace for employees. A number of other US companies, including Caterpillar Ford, Harley, and others, dialed back or nuked DEI policies.’
https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/oh-dear-john-deere-announces-more-layoffs-amid-worsening-farm-slump
Pop-corn sales may save John Deere…
Gold new ATH todtay. The empire stumbles, but trudges on.
The question is how long to hold gold. At some point, it will lose value, like every other medium of exchange. Or governments will confiscate it.
To the “Authorities” who might contemplate a confiscation:
I admit that I once owned an impressive amount of gold, but lost it all in a tragic boating accident.
where did your boat sink?
I hope you didnt have a parrot on your shoulder at the time
Pirates?
Make sure you have a funeral at some point… just in case.
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/African-Nations-Plan-To-Launch-Their-Own-Energy-Bank.html
Oil is a whole lot easier to use than natural gas. That is the reason that natural gas often is flared.
International supply lines are needed to get the whole project to work.
A certain Mr. Kadafi tried it
Did not go well for him.
Economies seem to work better when a country can build up from coal supply, and gradually add oil. Oil is very expensive. It needs to be used sparingly. Coal is cheaper. It can perhaps be used for a few basic industries.
Africa is so far behind in every respect, it is hard to see how it can make the jump to profitably extracting oil and using it. Natural gas is even more difficult.
the african energy policy will not succeed.
here in uk, where fossil fuel energy , coal first–kicked off, the landowners who owned the underground coal could only profit from it by effectively encouraging the peasant/slaves who extracted it for them to buy and sell goods (mainly iron and products of iron)—to and from each other,
It couldnt be exported to a wealthier part of the world because there wasnt one.—had their been they would have shipped it out pronto.
coal was very very expensive to move around by horse and cart, or packhorse.
so—while a small amount got exported, most of it was burned here. thus enriching everybody by small degrees (and a few by a lot).
africa on the other hand, has the means to export energy in vast volumes.
which is where the big money is
this is why nigeria is dirt poor—most of their oil was grabbed by a few and exported, making a few nigerians billionaires–while most of the rest live in shanty towns.
and other african nations the same.
they delude themselves that ‘new economics’ will bring new thinking, it wont.
Nothing new in it btw.
African chiefs got rich selling energy, in the form of thier own people 250 years ago
The motivation was exactly the same
the result was exactly the same
profit.
its called turning the planet into cash
Good points, unfortunately!
“African chiefs got rich selling energy, in the form of thier own people 250 years ago”
It wasn’t their people, it was weaker more rural rival tribes. They ran out of their own people fairly early on in the Atlantic Slave trade.
stop nitpicking nope
Africans sold Africans to white guys, just as Africans sell their oil to white guys now
Some white guys with a sense of decency tried to put a stop to it.
America went to war with itself over it.
The British government actually bought ‘slave investments’ from British people, in order to ”buy” their freedom.
Certain white guys would like to turn the clock back.
It will be interesting to see what the outcome of the next US civil war will be
“People Ate Pork in the Middle East Until 1,000 B.C.—What Changed?
A new study investigates the historical factors leading up to the emergence of pork prohibition”.
I was wondering lately why pork became progressively banned in Middleast by two important Religions, Islam and Judaism.
This argument is also linked with an article at the end of this post, related to food resources, after the two brief historic excerpts:
1) “Chickens have several advantages over pigs. First, they are a more efficient source of protein than pigs; chickens require 3,500 litres of water to produce one kilo of meat, pigs require 6,000. Secondly, chickens produce eggs, an important secondary product which pigs do not offer. Third, chickens are much smaller and can thus be consumed within 24 hours; this eliminates the problem of preserving large quantities of meat in a hot climate. Finally, chickens could be used by nomads. While neither chickens nor pigs can be herded in the same way as cattle, chickens are small enough to be transported.”
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/people-ate-pork-middle-east-until-1000-bcwhat-changed-180954614/
2) “Pigs are unable to cool themselves with sweat glands and require substantial amounts of drinking water, much more than cattle or goats. This constant need for water makes pigs “difficult to move in arid and semiarid environments, since they must be moved from water source to water source and only in cooler weather,”
https://www.newhistorian.com/2015/03/16/new-research-reveals-why-pig-use-in-middle-east-declined/?amp=1
These two articles, may be linked to current situation about trade of pork meat by Russia and China:
3) “In the war economy, Russia has taught the pigs to sing”
https://johnhelmer.net/in-the-war-economy-russia-has-taught-the-pigs-to-sing/
Among other things, climate seems to have changed since 1,000 BC (or somewhat earlier). The Garden of Eden was set in Iraq. At that time, it was quite wet and there probably was a need to drain it to grow crops.
Yes, climate change. I believe N Africa was also covered with trees/vegetation where it is now desert. Don’t think one can blame fossil fuels/population for that one.
Dennis L.
Population is totally to blame; clear the trees, farm the exposed virgin soil, lose the soil to erosion, create seasonal drought by losing watershed.
‘Topsoil and Civilisation.’
Rinse and repeat for most civilisations; silted waterways/ports, malarial swamps, with olives, goats and grapes are the final crops that can tolerate such conditions. Goats follow chickens in the recipe book of time.
Archeologists dig through the reason the civilisation failed looking for the reason the civilisation failed.
Good points!
That land in that part of the world was semi-arid to begin. Without careful soil management , crop failures are common in semi-arid areas. Droughts in a semi-arid area can cause famine for agrarian societies.
Civilizations fail for the same reason everything else eventually fails on this world.
I agree Lastcall’s points are good points, mostly.
But my understanding is that the amount of rain falling on the Sahel and Sahara varies greatly according to whether the world is in a glacial or an interglacial period. It was a lot cooler and a lot drier there at the height (or depth) of the last glacial period about 20,000 years ago, and a fair bit warmer and wetter there than today during the Holocene optimum 6 to 8,000 years ago.
One more point: The Holocene optimum coincided with the maximum inclination of the poles with respect to the Earth’s orbit around the Sun, also known as peak obliquity. This is a totally natural phenomenon.
However, human activity has had tremendous impacts on land use, many of them negative, including soil erosion and degradation. Forest clearance, agriculture, and grazing can wear out the soil and lead to erosion, as has happened all over the Mediterranean, the North American Great Plains, and Baluchistan, and agriculture can lead to salt accumulation in soil to the point where many crops cannot grow as has happened in southern Mesopotamia.
That’s absolutely right. Archeologists examined the Dead Cities of Syria which were all deserted by their inhabitants and discovered they were mostly growing olives. They concluded this was a sign of a thriving local economy connected to international trade and it was a mystery why everyone left or died.
Thanks Gail.
About BAN, we can say that a Religious prohibition is the best way to have people doing what leaders what them to do.
This must be related to the reason why some Religions have more success than others, it must be because leaders behind successful ones organize clever criteria as a framework for all, in relation to a particular environment and geopolitical situation.
Now it seems that this task is in the hands of mainstream media.
With the consequence that what is outside mainstream media must be stigmatized like ‘heresy’ and commentators of a particular position outside mainstream media narrative are treated like ‘heretics’.
About CLIMATE, it may be a reason why Abrham and his tribe decided to move from Ur and go to Canaan territory, to find better environmental conditions.
At this regard, I’d like to say that I remember that during his last interview, Stephen Hawking, when he was asked about afterlife, he replied something like: I think that there is something above all, but probably not in the form we think.
Trichina worms get killed by big cooking fires. With a lack of wood, these were not possible any longer. A fire from camel sh!t is not strong enough to make Obelix happy.
Yes, thanks.
“Cooking pork is not only a question of taste, but also of safety. The need for proper cooking of pork is mainly related to the prevention of bacterial hazards such as Trichinella spiralis (Trichina) , a parasite historically associated with undercooked pork. Thanks to modern husbandry and inspection practices, the risk of trichinosis has significantly decreased in developed countries, but it remains important to cook pork to a safe internal temperature, which is generally between 63 and 65°C. This practice ensures the elimination of any harmful microorganisms and makes the meat safe for consumption.
https://www.cookist.it/i-tempi-di-cottura-della-carne-di-maiale-in-padella-o-al-forno-secondo-il-taglio/
Translated with DeepL.com (free version)
Pigs are a way to take an abundant harvest/mast and convert it into fat that can be stored long after the crop abundance is past. Like every winter. I would guess the oak trees were over harvested and the acorns that had formerly feed the pigs were no more. Chickens need feeding year round and don’t store fat for winter. They are what you settle for after you destroyed your forests.
Thanks
Gotta destroy somethin’.
https://pubs.geoscienceworld.org/aapg/aapgbull/article/107/6/851/623376/M-King-Hubbert-and-the-rise-and-fall-of-peak-oil
>> Hubbert was a brilliant scientist who made significant contributions in several areas, but his views on resource exhaustion were influenced by his ideological beliefs. A false belief in the future scarcity of oil driven by peak oil theory resulted in the misallocation of resources. Bad science produces bad public policy.
Looks like the passage is written by one of the Cornucopians here
There is at least a tiny bit of truth in the article.
“American geologist M. King Hubbert predicted that United States oil production would follow a bell-shaped curve and peak between 1965 and 1970.”
What the author is unhappy about is that a different kind of production, which Hubbert could not foresee, was able to produce a second, later US peak.
Forecasting production is fraught with problems. The subject is affected by changing technology and difficulties with affordability. Supply lines from around the world are needed.
“In this part of the economic cycle, it appears that high interest rates, indirectly due to inadequate inexpensive-to-extract crude oil supplies, act as a brake on the economy instead of high oil prices.”
I continue to see that the Central Banks know exactly what they are doing with the high interest rates.
“The fact that some people can see that changes are coming, while others cannot, is part of the reason for the current conflict.”
For two perspectives on that comment, search on ‘The Angle-Saxon Mission” at the Avalon forum and search on “Peak Oil: Germany must act irrespective of traditional values” on Substack.
Best of luck & good fortune to all.
Neptune7
>> search on “Peak Oil: Germany must act irrespective of traditional values” on Substack.
Couldn’t find it, how about a direct link instead.
German Army peak oil study (leaked online) 2010
Check this part out
“”Shortages in the supply of vital goods could arise” as a
result, for example in food supplies. Oil is used directly or indirectly in the production of 95 percent of all industrial goods. Price shocks could therefore be seen in almost any industry and throughout all stages of the industrial supply chain. “In the medium term the global economic system and every market-oriented national economy would collapse.”
“Relapse into planned economy”: Since virtually all economic sectors rely heavily on oil, peak oil could lead to a “partial or complete failure of markets,” says the study. “A conceivable
alternative would be government rationing and the allocation of important goods or the setting of production schedules and other short-term coercive measures to replace market-based
mechanisms in times of crisis.”
https://theshiftproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/der_speigel_article_0.pdf
The price shocks are hitting RIGHT NOW!
That means next comes the collapse of the stock market/economy. And rolling out “planned economy” which is doublespeak for communism.
Without sufficient oil, central planning is just as doomed as market-based economics.
I think it is this one: https://stevenlawrencekayser.substack.com/p/peak-oil-requires-actions-irrespective
Thanks!
This is something related to the Anglo-Saxon Mission:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?2202-The-Anglo-Saxon-Mission-explained-by-Bill-Ryan-a-Project-Avalon-video&s=dd7859da9dc02498de4e6498db10b1a9
Excerpt:
At base, we, humans, are biology. Biology is not altruistic and natural selection is not kind.
Sometimes a helping hand is nice and helpful. Not sure animals act as a group although ants come to mind.
Perhaps need altruism to act as a group.
Dennis L.
It’s a complex problem. The Selfish Gene is the best explanation I know of.
According to one definition, altruism is the principle and practice of concern for the well-being and/or happiness of other humans or animals above oneself.
To act as a group, we need reciprocation and cooperation, but altruism need not figure into it. We may act as a group in our own best interests without caring one way or another about the welfare of our fellow members.
Some people seek to explain altruism as being selfish at base, but this could never explain random acts of kindness, where A helps a stranger, B, with not expectation or desire for reciprocation.
I think altruism grows out of a certain kind of personality and/or philosophical/religious/social outlook that values compassion and empathy and gains a sense of satisfaction by performing acts of generosity and help.
Like most traits, empathy and compassion are on a bell curve, with psychopaths and cold, unfeeling, monsters on the far right, sentimental Lisa Simpson types and cat ladies on the far left, and normal people in the middle.
The idea that altruism is based on kinship and that, as Haldane quipped, “I would lay down my life for two brothers or eight cousins” is poppycock and balderdash. And I’d go further. It is also piffle, claptrap, hogwash, baloney, and bilge. No, you wouldn’t. Observation of human nature suggests that on the average you are more likely to murder your siblings or cousins than to give up your own life to save them.
I have a better theory:
Tim’s First Law: The more empathic and compassionate you are, the more likely you are to behave altruistically.
An empathic and compassionate person is likely to perform altruistic acts due to their own psychology being “wired” to predispose them towards performing altruistic acts, while a sociopath or psychopath is unlikely to perform such acts due to their own psychology being “wired” to predispose them away from performing such acts.
And Tim’s Second Law: The more you like somebody, the more likely you are to behave altruistically towards them.
It doesn’t matter if you the person who needs your help is a blood relative, a distance acquaintance, or a stranger. Your personal feelings as an individual towards them as an individual will play a major role in whether you are going to choose to jump into a lake to help save them from drowning or to not bother piss on them if they are on fire.
Other psychological factors are also involved, such as how you feel the other has treated you in the past, how well you know your relatives, and the social cultural pressures you may be under to be kind to your kin.
Compared with the above psychological factors, one’s genetic similarity to the other plays a very minor role in determining behavior.
I am the perfect counterexample
I am very unempathic and very inconsiderate but I have been kinder to the people around me quite often
That is because it is less painful for me to act more generously than I actually am rather than being an asshole and create fights everywhere.
That is well stated. Dawkins makes the case that altruism is almost always to the benefit of the genes of the person displaying it. Usually such acts help your social status which directly improves reproductive success
You should read what Dawkins has to say about altruism in The Selfish Gene.
Careful with Dawkins. I believe on the last page, in the last paragraph of that book, in the last sentence, he states that we KNOW Darwin’s contribution to the theory of evolution is WRONG, but we teach it anyway because we don’t have a better explanation. That one sentence, imnsho, should disqualify him from being quoted about anything. (I might have the wrong book)
(I might have the wrong book)
I think you do.
Last chapter is on memes, and the last sentence is “We, alone on earth, can rebel against the tyranny of the selfish replicators.”
Nothing like that at the end of _Extended Phenotype_ either.
I put your statement in Google and their AI responded.
“This statement is incorrect; while some aspects of Darwin’s original theory of evolution have been refined and expanded upon with new scientific discoveries, the core concept of evolution by natural selection remains widely accepted as a robust explanation for the diversity of life on Earth, and it is not considered “wrong” by the scientific community; therefore, it is taught as the foundation for understanding evolution because it is the most comprehensive and well-supported theory available. “
I wrote a reply to this but Word Press gobbled it up and told me “Nonce verification failed.”
This has been happening to me a lot lately, and it’s irritating enough for me to stop commenting on Word Press.
I don’t understand WordPress’s problems. I find I have to refresh the screen to get my comments to show. I have had a few not go through. You could “copy” them into your computer’s memory. If something go wrong, you could use your copy in computer memory to put the comment up again.
Read it twice. First time in the seventies when it first came out.
You should read what Mary Midgley wrote about it in 1979. She slashes Dawkins up a real treat. Does him up like a kipper, as we say in blighty.
https://www.joelvelasco.net/teaching/3334/midgley1979.pdf
Thanks for that Tim, Mary had me onboard with the first sentence.
“Genes cannot be selfish or unselfish, any more than atoms can be jealous,
elephants abstract or biscuits teleological.”
Then there are the children.
“And we, like any other social animal regard this as a paramount condition of normal life. But the signs are deceptive because the Grudger is supposed to view as enemies
all those who have ever failed to return his help in the past, and as friends all those who have returned it. This principle, on which a man’s employer would usually be his best friend and his children always his enemies, is unknown in the animal world. Altruism is transitive long before it is reciprocal.”
Hate your children, but love your employer. Sounds like a corporate construct, heavily used in certain less civilised societies, where living life at natures pace amongst a known community is frowned upon. Coincidentally, the book came out just a few short years before the Thatcher/Reagan corporate drain started. Handy prep work?
“Who are the “right” people? The white Caucasians.”
There is no question the they are different. Why? Gregory Clark makes the case, backed up by probate records, that the UK population was inadvertently subjected to vicious selection. Those with drive and other useful characteristics leading to wealth were able to feed their children through the frequent famines and associated epidemics. The selection was as intense as that applied to the tame Russian foxes.
A the end of the article I have mentioned several times, Clark notes that the Chinese were subject to similar selection, perhaps not as intense, but for even longer.
Again, all the good stocks perished at Flanders and Somme. And the scum of earth has taken over UK.
The scum-British fantasize themselves to be in the same league as pre 1914 elites but their lives are quite disposable.
Keith, your account and Clark’s beg the question of why, after all that vicious selection, there is still so much scum and villainy abounding in the UK population and so many people on welfare unable to feed the kids and reliant on food banks?
This seems like a serious objection to the entire hypothesis.
“The selection was as intense as that applied to the tame Russian foxes.”
I very much doubt that.
Apart from to a race supremacist, ultimately, it doesn’t matter which racial groups will inherit the Earth and which will die out. We are all living in a finite world and we will all be here for a finite time. Dreaming and scheming for your group to wipe out all the others and rule the world forever is the ultimate vanity of vanities.
we seem to be in agreement tim
the end of the world must definitely be nigh
Keith, your account and Clark’s
Entirely Clark’s. Wish I could take some credit, but I am wired up to where I can’t take credit for other people’s work.
” beg the question of why, after all that vicious selection, there is still so much scum and villainy abounding in the UK population
The selection was for the traits leading to wealth. Clark makes a case that other traits like literacy, numeracy, and intelligence were dragged along. If scum and villainy were selected against (possible) it was happenstance.
“and so many people on welfare unable to feed the kids and reliant on food banks?
According to Clark, the selection ended around 1800 when the general rise of income cut the number of people dying in famines and epidemics.
“This seems like a serious objection to the entire hypothesis.
This part of Clark’s work is observational. He makes hypothesis about such things as the change in interest rate as a result of genes for wealth becoming more common but I have not mentioned them here.
“The selection was as intense as that applied to the tame Russian foxes.”
“I very much doubt that.
The selection for the foxes was about 50% per generation. For the wealth selection in the UK, read the paper. Have you?
“Apart from to a race supremacist,
Sorry, us white guys are not the top of the stack. On average Chinese are smarter.
“ultimately, it doesn’t matter which racial groups will inherit the Earth and which will die out. We are all living in a finite world and we will all be here for a finite time. Dreaming and scheming for your group to wipe out all the others and rule the world forever is the ultimate vanity of vanities.
I see no way to avoid Ais from ruling the solar system.
I dunno, Keith.
Perhaps the Tabbies will take over the Solar System and build us a nice Dyson Sphere, or at the very least a Larry Niven RIngworld?
I don’t think physics will let anyone build either of those.
But something is blocking the light from the star that looks to be 409 times the area of the earth. Why not larger? I suspect that speed of light is a limiting factor but who knows.
I noticed that this article is from 2010, based on a Camelot Project from 2005. The article says:
“What our source reports is this: * There is a planned Third World War, which will be nuclear and biological. Our source believes that this is on track to be initiated within the next 18-24 months. * It is planned to begin with a strike by Israel on Iran. Either Iran or China will be provoked into a nuclear response. After a brief nuclear exchange, there will be a ceasefire. The world will be thrown into fear and chaos – all carefully engineered.
” chaos – all carefully engineered.”
That’s a good trick if you can engineer chaos.
Good point!
Haven’t been paying attention to BLM/defund the police, the whole “trans” dealio, the coördinated elimination of standards for academia, medicine, and the law, hmmm?
First Ukrainian Nuke Ready in Weeks, BILD Says;
An unnamed senior Ukrainian official “specializing in weapons procurement” reportedly said Ukraine could build a nuclear bomb within weeks during a closed meeting a few months prior.
“We have the material, we have the knowledge. If the order is given, we will only need a few weeks to have the first bomb,” the official reportedly said at the time, according to German news outlet BILD. The publication did not state when exactly the “closed meeting” took place.
According to BILD, the same official warned at the time that the West should “think less about Russia’s red lines and more about our red lines.”
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/40695
A couple of sentences in the Angle-Saxon mission really make a big difference.
1. The events described are event based, not time based. So the timeline is subject to change.
2. The purpose of attacking Iran was to get China to respond. The whole point is to get China into a big war and to conquer them.
3. The additional point is to destroy the systems that support life, and then to release the real bio weapon when people do not have access to health care, nutrition, etc.
////////3. The additional point is to destroy the systems that support life, and then to release the real bio weapon when people do not have access to health care, nutrition, etc.///////
with the above aim achieved….can you take this to the next point, ie why?
when systems that support life are destroyed, what exactly would be the purpose of that?
do you ever pause, and read stuff twice, and think it might just be total BS, dreamt up by some incel in his back bedroom?
I am guessing that the bioweapon won’t spread well, if too many other systems are down. People will stay at home.
”killing off everyone” is just dreamt up nonsense.
According to the document, the reason and purpose was to pre-prepare for a major geophysical event. I believe they know full well about the oil issue and are simple preparing.
And yes, I do read stuff three times and assume it is BS.
Problem is, both and Anglo-Saxon Mission and Lt. Col Witt’s plan are happening almost exactly as written.
unfortunately bioweapons are non discriminatory.
this is why the concept is so much BS
and who exactly are ”they” btw?—not those damned elite again i hope.
i hope they let me in before they destroy the great unwashed.–i certainly deserve to one of the elite, or at least an elder
You are the Supreme Elder of OFW, Norman. If we were an even more primitive tribe than we are, we would build you a little mud house where you would be safe from snakes and tigers, keep you well fed, and consult you on important matters such as when to plant yams and taro, how to placate the gods, and what charms work best to ward off evil spirits.
as long as you dont expect preferential treatment tim
Federal disaster declared for this year’s ruined Michigan cherry harvest
TRAVERSE CITY, MI – Federal agriculture officials authorized disaster protections for Michigan’s cherry growers who lost most of their crop this year.
Gov. Gretchen Whitmer requested a disaster declaration in August from the U.S. Department of Agriculture, which makes emergency funding available for northern Michigan’s cherry farmers. This week the USDA approved emergency resources for Antrim, Grand Traverse and Leelanau counties and the eight surrounding counties.
https://www.mlive.com/environment/2024/10/federal-disaster-declared-for-this-years-ruined-michigan-cherry-harvest.html
Not cold enough last winter so bugs didn’t die off and ruined most the harvest. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Oh well, who needs “sweet cherries” when you have Kraft foods “Red Dye 327”.
Right?
that means that cherries can now be grown in the upper peninsula. Let the people in traverse city grow persimmons.
Interesting point!
Illinois was almost able to have two growing seasons the last couple years. I think they missed by only a couple weeks.
Climate change maybe a big win for the upper Midwest farming and Canada farms.
Print some more money to solve the problem.
Workers forced to stay at factory drowned during Hurricane Helene — while CEO snuck out and survived, scathing lawsuit claims
“The family of a Tennessee factory worker who was killed during Hurricane Helene is suing the company and its CEO — claiming that the bosses sneaked out of the factory to escape catastrophic weather conditions while they ordered employees to stay.
Johnny Peterson, 55, was one of two workers at Impact Plastics who are now confirmed dead in flooding that engulfed the factory in the rural town of Erwin on Sept. 27. Of 11 employees who were swept away, five were rescued and another four remain missing, according to reports.
According to an explosive lawsuit filed by Peterson’s family on Monday in Tennessee state court, the facility’s managers denied employees’ pleas to leave work as the hurricane bore down on the area.
https://nypost.com/2024/10/16/business/factory-workers-drowned-during-hurricane-helene-as-ceo-survived-suit/
The lawsuit will go nowhere since the jury will be sympathetic towards the employer, and it will be buried
In the old days such suits were considered to be frivolous amd dismissed without a look and if the plantiff was black lynch mobs would descend
Disposable lives were treated properly
you clearly have never been in an american jury. I wish you were here and I would deprive you of a coffee on a friendly bet.
Not in areas like there
“Disposable lives were treated properly” If we start to treat human life as disposable, we will create a world not worth living in.
Chris Martenson gave a very good and clear presentation on the financial and energy situation we face in the near future.
I listened to parts of this. It is generally quite good.
In the Q/A, Martenson has faith in building small modular nuclear reactors. I would ask, “Where do you get the processed uranium for them?” Uranium is in short supply, not unlike fossil fuels, and the vast majority of it is processed in Russia. Also, there is a security issue. People with their drones could drop bombs on them, I would think.
He talks about working on building out electric mass transit again. I have a hard time seeing how this could work. Central cities are failing.
We’re not just hitting limits for energy but limits for other economic inputs like ,metals and minerals used for infrastructure construction. Public transportation has had financial problems in the UK and America for decades due to “a lack of funding.”
The revenue is never high enough to cover operating costs. Voters and most importantly the elite are hostile to raising taxes for finance public transportation. To contrast the attitudes towards public transportation, voters and the elite have been willing to spend more and more money and education and on healthcare.
Public transportation requires buying materials needed for transit and ongoing energy expenses. Education and healthcare would seem to be mostly expenditures of salaries for workers in these fields. Thus, education and healthcare dollars mostly go back into the economy, while public transit dollars mostly go out of the community.
I hadn’t looked at it that way, Gail but let ‘s suppose you are correct.
education and healthcare dollars may be going back into the economy but the benefits to the community seem to the concentrated among best and brightest of the community. If someone in a community is not a nurse , doctor, or professor I don’t see how that person would benefit financially from the proliferation of colleges and hospitals.
Perhaps more money going back to those who are nurses, doctors, or professors is good enough. More money can be used for “investment” and speculation. There will be some money going into private schools, churches, and restaurants, indirectly. Maybe even airlines.
Mike S expands on Gail’s work .
https://www.oilystuff.com/forumstuff/forum-stuff/fact-of-the-day
Thanks for the link. Mike S did indeed find my oil growth chart and points out the nearly all of the growth in world oil supply came from the US.
I was just in Manhatten for work. It’s been a few years since I was last there. The city looked dirty and the acrid smell of marijuana was everywhere/ People looked poor and moribund. Construction was everywhere. Not so much to build but to repair existing infrastructure. I wonder how the city will fare as inflation continues to grind away at the working poor. In contrast I was in downtown Chicago also for work. The city looked clean but empty. Lot’s of empty store fronts and was eerily empty after 7:00 P.M. Another strange thing was the lack of boomers. There were almost no boomers but there were lots of millennials. It was surreal to see the change.
The downtowns of big cities are increasingly in very sad shape.
Years ago, I worked in downtown Chicago. It was a different place then, with the big department stores bustling with activity. Now the insurance company I worked for has moved its office out of the center of the city.
Many years ago, I noticed that most of the shoppers at places like Macys were
a tourists
Tourists are known for being wealthy. I guess is what happens when urban centers are revitalized for the wealthy. Large portions of the population are excluded from participating. Businesses set up for vol will have a difficult time making adequate profit off a small transient customer population.
Not sure why Manhattan seemed dirty to you. It is gentrified.
Dirty= undesirables/ presence of low-status people.
The unhappy seeming people you look at in New York are there to make money and may not be particularly having a good time doing it. Of course they look moribund. None of the cities in the Northeast are known their social life. People live in these areas to work. A small percentage of workers in these areas can balance their social or psychological needs and their financial ones. You’re in that special elite club and they’re just cogs in the machine.
Boomers are staying away from the downtown of major cities because they are too old and because there are not a lot of things for boomers to do in downtown in many major cities. The land developers want young people from wealthy families around the world, not boomers.
I think you actually dislike being around the working poor, identify with the boomers (the” middle-class ” America that was mainstream 20-30 years ago) and find drug decriminalization distasteful. Am I warm?
The son killed his elderly parents. He cared for them, but they lost their house due to the debts.
https://tvnoviny.sk/domace/clanok/930560-vrazda-v-trnave-vazne-chorych-rodicov-mal-o-zivot-pripravit-ich-syn-ktory-sa-o-nich-roky-staral
Deepl translate:
“According to the locals, son Tomáš took exemplary care of his seriously ill parents Joseph († 69) and Viera († 70) for more than five years. The mother was bedridden, the father reportedly had Parkinson’s disease.
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According to the locals, son Tomáš took exemplary care of his seriously ill parents Joseph († 69) and Viera († 70) for more than five years. The mother was bedridden, the father reportedly had Parkinson’s disease.
According to our information, the family was about to lose their house in foreclosure. TV Markiza found out that they had their permanent residency revoked as of 14 October 2024.
This morning, when the new owner came to the house, Tomas reportedly told him that he had murdered his father and mother.”
Mercy killing?
MG does not like capitalism. Fortunately for him Fico is going to drag them into Brics if he is not shot first.
It is not about liking or disliking capitalism. It is about the debts that can not be repaid, as all of us are dying.
The growth narrative is that the debts will be repaid, which is not true, as sustaining human populations mean consuming all possible resources till the human bioreactors extinguish.
“dying”
Given what is going on in technology, I don’t think you can count on dying.
What?
some days—my head feels frozen already keith
well, the very essence of capitalism is money printing during times of declining resources (and, it needs to be said, fairly efficient use of resources when there are plenty). so it is about capitalism. when you were communist you had no debt.
Along with that “no debt” there were less goods and services available under a Communist system.
I think you have it backwards. Capitalism is less efficient during times of plenty…think of market bubbles. During downturns, there is less speculation.
An even better/worse story:
https://tvnoviny.sk/zahranicne/clanok/930825-dievca-bolo-doteraz-nezvestne-po-19-rokoch-vsetko-zmenil-otrasny-nalez-v-mraznicke-rodicov
The child was not needed, in excess there, it seems.
The Japanese movie “The Ballad of Narayama” is about an old woman going into the forest to die in sometime during feudal Japan.
In a lower energy society people no longer useful were expected to die on their own hand.
Or you can die as mushroom hunter killed by the bear in the forest. A recently retired man from a nearby village died in such a way some days ago:
https://www.trencinak.sk/clanky/4986/medved-na-liptove-zabil-hubara-z-bohunic-pri-ilave-selma-mu-zasiahla-jednu-z-hlavnych-tepien
Mushroom hunters vastly underestimate the bear danger. They are at their most aggressive just before and after hibernation, when they have to eat.
Most humans underestimate how hostile nature can be.
Two years ago a mushroom hunter was eaten about 60km from here, in October. and in Italy a jogger in the mountains, where my family has a summer apartment, was also eaten in March. I was going to visit a friend on foot the other day, 1.5km of dirt roads. I thought better use the car.
people arent fussy about who they eat these days
ChatGPT:
The video linked is a clip from the movie Hell or High Water, where two brothers execute a string of bank robberies to save their family’s ranch. This scene highlights a tense interaction between one of the brothers and a bank employee. Themes of desperation, justice, and morality are central, as the characters grapple with the economic hardships faced by rural America. The dialogue emphasizes the characters’ complex motivations, blending humor and intensity as they confront their situation. You can watch it here.
It seems current ChatGPT can ingest external (web) content?
Written in almost pure Vulcan vernacular. O.m. Gosh! Spock, it that you?
Update:
“According to the findings of Markiza television, the deceased woman had no external injuries on her body and should have died of natural causes. On the contrary, her husband had at least one cut wound in the head and should have taken his own life.”
Zdroj: https://tvnoviny.sk/domace/clanok/930747-muz-ktory-sa-priznal-k-vrazde-rodicov-v-trnave-nemusi-byt-v-policajnej-cele-verzii-co-sa-mohlo-stat-je-niekolko?campaignsrc=tn_clipboard