Losing the Iran War May Be the Best Outcome for the World

As I will explain, the outcome that looks like losing may actually be the best path forward for the world’s remaining economies.

The fighting today is with respect to which parts of the world will get which energy resources, and at what prices. Even before the current conflict, there was a shortage of jet fuel and diesel. The only reasonable outcome I can think of is that the US will only be able to tap its own energy resources, plus those of its nearby neighbors (Figure 1). Consequently, the economy will gradually reorganize in ways that use fuels more sparingly.

World map highlighting regions impacted by fuel shortages, affecting international trade.
Figure 1. A chart I made when trying to explain that it is really the heavy oil portion of oil, which disproportionately makes diesel and jet fuel, that is especially constrained. Reducing travel across the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans would leave more heavy oil for other purposes, such as growing food.

The outcome outlined in Figure 1 implies that Donald Trump and the US-Israel coalition will lose the war against Iran. It appears that the physics of the situation (or perhaps the Higher Power behind the physics of the situation) has chosen the flawed personality of Donald Trump to accomplish the required result. This is a situation where what seems to be the US losing in its conflict against Iran is actually winning for the overall world economy. If oil can be used more sparingly in the future by servicing people closer to where end products are made, the available energy resources will provide greater benefit to society as a whole.

In the remainder of this article, I will try to explain the situation more fully.

[1] Background

In physics terms, an economy is a dissipative structure. In order to stay away from a dead state (collapse), it needs to “dissipate” energy of the right kinds. A human is also a dissipative structure. We dissipate food to stay away from a dead state.

From a physics point of view, fossil fuels are as essential to economies as food is to humans. Without fossil fuels, economies tend to collapse and die. With an adequate supply of easily extractable and transportable fossil fuels, economies are able to grow. However, when these fuels become less available due to the exhaustion of nearby resources, or for other reasons, economies are forced to shrink. Rising population can also be a factor because every person in the world needs food and at least minimal transportation. The war is about future standards of living in countries around the world.

An underlying problem is that the world now has too many people for the available resources, such as fresh water. One chart showing data through the end of 2023 indicates that the Middle East is home to 4,863 desalination plants, or about 42% of the world’s total. This region is acutely stressed for fresh water. The Middle East cannot grow much of its own food; it must depend on imports, which are grown and transported using oil.

Previous analyses (here and here) have shown that diesel and jet fuel supplies have been in increasingly short supply since long before the Iran War.

Line graph showing global per capita diesel supply as a percentage of 1980 levels from 1980 to 2024, indicating a decline since 2008.
Figure 2. World per capita diesel supply, based on data of the 2025 Statistical Review of World Energy, published by the Energy Institute.

Critical minerals, used in electrification, are also in very short supply. In a finite world, the easy-to-extract minerals are extracted first, leaving the high-cost-to extract minerals for the future.

In today’s fossil fuel economy, oil is the largest component. Oil is usually the highest-priced of the fossil fuels because it is energy-dense and easy to transport and store. If oil supply fails, an economy is likely to collapse. Coal and natural gas are the other fossil fuels. Liquefied natural gas (LNG) is natural gas that is super-chilled and shipped long-distance by boat. Similarly to oil, its price is under pressure today.

[2] The world’s fossil fuel economy already seems to be at a turning point in its economic cycle.

It is well known that economies exhibit cyclical behavior. Researchers Peter Turchin and Sergey Nefedov analyzed eight economies that collapsed and published their findings in their book Secular Cycles. They found that populations that discovered new resources were able to grow for a period of time until they came close to the carrying capacity of the resources available. After approaching the carrying capacity, economies reached a period of stagflation, characterized by slower growth, inflation, and spiking prices as shown on Figure 3.

Graph illustrating the shape of a typical secular cycle, showing phases of growth, stagflation, crisis, and intercycle over time in relation to population.
Figure 3. Chart by author based on information provided in Turchin and Nefedov’s book, Secular Cycles

At this point, the fossil fuel system has been growing for over 200 years. It has undergone stagflation since the early 1970s. It is now ready to begin the downswing of the Crisis Years.

Now, the Iran War seems to mark the beginning of a fairly long Crisis Period. The Stagflation Period was expected to last 50 to 60 years. The year 2026 is 56 years after the time US crude oil production stopped growing, so the timing is roughly in line with expectations. However, we don’t know whether the Crisis Period will really last between 20 and 50 years, since the situation is now quite different compared to cycles before fossil fuels were added to the economy. But it does look like the world economy is headed for reorganization based on the limited fuel supply.

[3] In order for an economy to “work,” oil prices need to be both low enough for consumers, buying end products such as food made possible by the use of oil, and high enough for oil producers.

This issue is not one most people think much about. There are really two different oil price levels that are important:

(a) The price level affordable by consumers. If consumers cannot afford food or basic transportation, this quickly becomes a problem that leads to unhappiness with elected officials. This is the reason why elected officials often try to hold down oil prices.

(b) The price that oil producers require in order to make an adequate profit and allow investment in new wells to offset depletion in existing wells. In the case of oil exporters, oil prices may need to be very high to permit high taxes on oil exports to support food subsidies and other government programs.

I believe that a major problem we have reached today is that countries that are primarily oil exporters, such as Russia and countries in the Middle East, need far higher oil prices than consumers are able to pay. Even if the wars in Ukraine and Iran stopped tomorrow, the world would still have this underlying issue.

[4] Since 2014, oil prices have been too low for countries that use taxes on oil exports as a major source of tax revenue.

Graph showing the average annual Brent oil price from 1945 to 2025 in US dollars, highlighting trends and key price points for consumers and producers.


Figure 4. Oil prices in 2025 US$, with ovals marking three different oil price periods. Oil prices are based on oil data from the 2025 Statistical Review of World Energy, published by the Energy Institute, adjusted by the US CPI Urban increase to 2025 levels. The 2025 average Brent oil price is from EIA data.

Figure 4 shows average world oil prices on an inflation-adjusted basis, to 2025 price levels. As such, prices for earlier dates appear much higher on the graph than past observers would have seen them.

The low oil prices from 1948 until early 1973 were good for economies around the world, including the US. In the early days of oil extraction, oil was easy to extract and close to where it was to be used. The cost of extraction and transport was low. Consumers started seeing many more products become available. Many families in the US could afford a car for the first time. Also, the US was able to support the recovery of European economies from the impact of World War II at a cost that was not excessive.

In recent years, costs have risen. This is especially the case for the price needed by oil exporters. Part of the problem is that the size of the population requiring subsidy keeps growing, while oil production has been close to flat.

A line graph showing Middle East crude oil production alongside population growth from 2000 to 2024. Crude oil production remains flat, while the population steadily increases.
Figure 5. Crude oil production of the Middle East and population based on data from the 2025 Statistical Review of World Energy, published by the Energy Institute.

A second part of the problem is that economies of oil exporters often have few other sources of taxable revenue. Oil exporters are trying to change this by adding downstream manufacturing that uses the oil and gas they produce. A third part of the problem is that, as population grows, the higher population tends to use more of the available oil supply, leaving less for export.

Figure 6 shows that, in the 2011-2013 period, oil prices seemed to be high enough for most OPEC members (except Iran). Fiscal break-even prices indicate how high oil prices need to be, including the amount of tax revenue needed to balance budgets.

A graph showing OPEC countries' fiscal break-even prices in dollars per barrel (S/bbl) versus cumulative petroleum production in thousand barrels per day (mbd), highlighting Saudi Arabia's position at around $100/bbl against a backdrop of other OPEC nations.
Figure 6. OPEC Fiscal Breakeven prices, published by APICORP in approximately 2013.

The notation in yellow on Figure 6 shows that the expected fiscal breakeven break-even for the period under analysis for all OPEC members combined was $105. EIA data shows that the average Brent oil prices during this period were $111 in the year 2011, $112 in the year 2012, and $109 in 2013. Thus, prices were high enough for most producers. Iran was an outlier on the high side, with a range for the 2013-2014 period of $110 to $172. (A more recent forecast for Iran shows a 2025 fiscal breakeven price of $124, which remains far above the pre-Iran war oil price.)

Figure 4 shows that oil prices began to fall in 2014. At these lower levels, it became increasingly difficult for oil exporters to obtain enough tax revenue to significantly help their local populations. They started needing to use more debt to fund their local economies. As a result, they gradually became increasingly unhappy. Figure 4 shows that the average price 2025 for Brent oil was only $65.

To make matters worse for oil exporting countries requiring high prices, oil price forecasts by the EIA and IEA for the year 2026 were even lower because of an expected oversupply of oil. Countries with growing oil production included Argentina, Brazil, China, and Guyana. In addition, some counties on the coast of Africa are hoping to add oil production. Unless world demand is growing rapidly, more oil supply tends to lead to lower prices and a worse situation for oil exporters trying to balance their budgets with taxes on exported oil.

[5] Without the war, LNG prices would also have been too low for LNG exporters.

LNG is a “modern” way of shipping natural gas. Only about 13% of natural gas is transported as LNG. It tends to be an expensive method of transport. Recent reports indicate that a huge amount of future LNG supply is planned for the next few years.

Bar graph illustrating the growth of LNG supply from various countries including the US, Australia, Qatar, Russia, Canada, and others from 2016 to 2035, highlighting a significant increase in supply over the years.
Figure 7. From “Will QatarEnergy’s LNG Fiasco Derail Goldman’s Prewar View Of A Mega LNG Wave.” Source.

Adding a huge amount of LNG would probably cause prices to drop significantly. This would be great from the point of view of consumers, but it would likely leave prices too low for producers. As I see the situation, Middle Eastern producers are likely to need prices in the $15 to $20 range per million metric tons of LNG, while India is not willing to pay more than $10 per unit, and those wanting to replace coal are unwilling to pay more than $5 per unit. Thus, without the war, LNG would have had a similar problem to that of oil, with prices far too low for exporters.

[6] From Iran’s point of view, I see the war as similar to a suicide, when a farmer can no longer support his family.

With Iran’s fiscal breakeven price at $124 per barrel and the pre-war Brent price at only $65, Iran was already in an impossible position. In fact, Iran could see that all of the Middle East infrastructure would be close to worthless, at expected 2026 oil and LNG prices. So why not take it down as well?

If nothing else, a war might help raise prices, at least a bit. Notice that on Figure 4, oil prices bounced up a little from their very low level in 2022, the year when the Ukraine conflict started.

[7] Losing any significant share of energy supply is likely to significantly reduce world GDP.

If the energy supply were to be lost, the world would be dealing with the losing something equivalent to its food supply. If the world economy loses even 10% of its oil and LNG, it is not difficult to imagine world GDP falling by 10%. At this point, we don’t know precisely how much energy supply, of which kind, will be lost, or for how long. The amount lost could be far higher than 10%. Also, the outage could last for years.

There are many issues involved. Supply lines are breaking down forcing businesses to find closer sources for both energy products and products made using cheap local energy products, such as fertilizer and aluminum. The war, as it is taking place today, is leading to major damage to energy-related structures in the Middle East. Destroyed LNG structures are estimated to take at least five years to replace. Damage elsewhere is also immense. Rebuilding the oil infrastructure will also likely take at least five years.

[8] The US understands the importance of Middle Eastern oil and gas. It uses its strong relationship with Israel to further its military presence in the Middle East.

Israel is a very high-level ally. In fact, a 2025 US Department of State Fact Sheet says that the US is committed to helping Israel in the case of an attack:

Steadfast support for Israel’s security has been a cornerstone of American foreign policy for every U.S. Administration since the presidency of Harry S. Truman. . . Israel is the leading global recipient of Title 22 U.S. security assistance under the Foreign Military Financing (FMF) program. . .Israel has been designated as a U.S. Major Non-NATO Ally under U.S. law. This status provides foreign partners with certain benefits in the areas of defense trade and security cooperation and is a powerful symbol of their close relationship with the United States. Consistent with statutory requirements, it is the policy of the United States to help Israel preserve its QME, or its ability to counter and defeat any credible conventional military threat from any individual state or possible coalition of states or from non-state actors, while sustaining minimal damages and casualties.

However, if we look to see where US military bases are located, they are not in Israel. Instead, a map shows that the “persistent” US military bases are all located around the Persian Gulf (Figure 8).

Map showing U.S. overseas military bases in the Central Command Area of Responsibility (CENTCOM AOR) in the Middle East, including locations in Iraq, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates.
Figure 8. Figure shown by Congress.Gov of US bases in the Middle East, as of July 10, 2024. Source.

These bases were clearly intended to protect oil transiting through the Persian Gulf. At this point, all of the persistent bases have been severely damaged by missiles from Iran.

The major interest of the US has been the availability of oil and natural gas from the Middle East. No one ever considered the idea that low prices might be the force that would bring down Middle Eastern oil and natural gas exports.

Friendship with Israel provides the US a convenient close by ally. It also pleases both Jewish Americans who support Israel and those evangelical Christians who hold a religious view that Israel is needed for the second coming of Christ. Some of the latter may even believe that a war in the Middle East could perhaps hasten this event.

[9] Trump realizes that winning the war against Iran is absolutely essential if the US is to retain global hegemony.

The US has been the holder of the world’s reserve currency since immediately after World War II. It was chosen for this role because it was the most trusted and dominant country in the world. International trade took place almost exclusively in US dollars, creating a high demand for US government debt. This allowed the US to import more goods and services than it exported, year after year. This advantage tended to raise the standard of living of US residents.

At one time, Saudi Arabia insisted that all oil purchases be made in US dollars. This requirement has recently expired, but, as a practical matter, the majority of purchases have continued to be through trades in US dollars.

One of the main ways that the US has maintained its hegemony is by building military bases around the world. With these bases, the US can claim to protect countries against aggressors. However, recent events have shown that Iran is able to take down the radar systems at these bases. Without radar, the bases are virtually useless. If the US is to maintain the illusion that it is truly at the top of the pecking order with its sophisticated weaponry, it must show that, together with Israel, it can prevail against Iran.

A disadvantage of the role of being the chief hegemon is ever-rising US government debt and the need to pay interest on that debt. This growing debt and the interest on the debt has become an increasing burden.

If the US should lose its hegemony role, the advantage the US has had over other countries in trade is likely to disappear. Repaying debt with interest is likely to become an even worse problem. If this should happen, Trump will no longer be able to think about making America great again.

[10] Conclusion

The world is now facing a problem that most people never considered possible: Oil and LNG prices can fall so low that production becomes unprofitable for major oil and LNG exporters. Until now, the trend among world leaders, including President Trump, has been to try to hold prices down for consumers, so that food and fuel for vehicles would remain affordable. However, this has created a problem in that prices have become too low for countries whose primary industry is being an oil exporter.

At this point, the world economy needs to make a major transition in order to deal with the inadequate level of fuels available for long-distance transportation. These same fuels are heavily used for farming and for many for commercial endeavors, such as building homes and roads. It is therefore necessary to find ways to use these fuels more sparingly. One way to achieve this is by reducing the length of most supply lines, as shown on Figure 1. Shorter supply lines will also be needed elsewhere in the world.

It is ironic that the world economy cannot make a change such as this without a war to focus our attention in this direction. Other changes will also be needed. Governments will probably have to become smaller and provide fewer services. Vacation travel will become the exception rather than the rule. “Working from home” will become the norm, whenever possible. I expect that the world’s population will need to fall, albeit in a fairly subtle way. I expect this will mostly be the result of shorter life expectancies.

We are fortunate that economies are self-organizing. If resources are available, even after a major schism such as the loss of the war against Iran, the self-organizing nature of the economic system will try to knit together pieces that can productively provide goods and services. This cannot happen instantly, but this feature means that there are likely to be some jobs and some goods and services available. Past cycles of the type illustrated in Figure 3 have eventually led to new beginnings.

If the US and Israel lose the current war against Iran, I expect President Trump to be blamed for this loss. However, I believe that this outcome would be best for the world as a whole.

About Gail Tverberg

My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
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1,879 Responses to Losing the Iran War May Be the Best Outcome for the World

  1. raviuppal4 says:

    Kazakhstan imposes six-month ban on fuel exports (BBC) .
    https://x.com/chigrl/status/2045901926470967536/photo/1

    More oil goes off the market .

    • Interesting! My guess is that we will see more of this type of behavior.

      If the stream of oil tankers that is coming toward the US are all looking for gasoline, diesel. or jet fuel, there will suddenly be restrictions on who can buy them. In theory, some of the diesel, gasoline, and jet fuel that would normally serve the US market could be sold to overseas buyer, but I would expect those that those in charge would start putting export restrictions in place.

      • reante says:

        More Hand-guided Export Land Model cascading in service of a Phase 2 politics that disables Export Land Model dynamics, either by taking excess domestic refining capacity (relative to Phase 2 consumption targets) out by force, or by functional disablement by engineering refinery supply chain disruptions. Problem-Reaction-Solution. In this sense, the Big Nuclear Scare is a simulating an organic catastrophic cascading collapse in order to create the narrative for implementing the intelligent Phase 2 Agenda.

  2. The US police and the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps, IRGC, would understand each other better than Trump and whoever is running Iran now.

    The US police knows they are not loved, everyone hates them and are in a besieged mind. They can do no wrong, so every homicide is justifiable for them since they value their often miserable lives higher than anything else, and the grand jury usually acquits them unless the person is not in the ‘band of brothers’.

    They don’t give a crap that others do not like them. Anyone outside of their rank is someone they will shoot one of the days if opportunities arise – they are no longer humans, having transformed into something else.

    They tend to have no social life outside of their own police-only communities, their children are raised in such communities and only have the children of other police as friends, and usually join their parents’ ranks, and retire to police-only retirement communities policed by their own kind.

    Heinrich Himmler had a similar idea with the SS, although the experiment did not last long enough to produce lasting results.

    Few details are available about IRGC, but the school bombed in the first day of the war was a school for IRGC’s daughter, destined to raise future IRGC warriors although in this cae the girls who were killed will never get to do so.

    After Israel got rid of the old farts, who at least had some respect by IRGCs, they no longer really listen to whatever is remaining of the Iranian government. They know that if they lose they are unlikely to meet better fate than the SS soldiers – usually the elite SS prisoners in the West were transferred back to USSR and few of them returned home.

    IRGCs won’t go quietly. Unlike Saddam’s Revolutionary Guards, these are not really loyal to one person, something the American and Israeli planners failed to see – they are loyal to the institution itself, just like the US police, which is why there are few defectors – their family is open game to IRGC when they defect, and they would be hunted down to the ends of earth.

    I don’t know whether any of Trump’s people had police background. If there had been one they would have advised Trump that the IRGC is like the US Police.

    • Interesting!

    • Itrustmydog says:

      The US police are not universally hated at all in rural USA. I have even known outlaws that while they hate the police realize they are necessary. They understand what disorder would be like and much prefer to live in order even if they are adversaries to the police. ICE is a different matter. There does seem to be a almost universal dislike of ICE forming. On average I would say people neither hate or love the police in rural areas. They realize they are necessary. Some do appreciate them more than others. Some do strongly dislike them with a degree of angst.

      The local police are not taking us to prison just yet for posts on social media unlike the UK. Last I heard 20k serving sentences for wrong think.

      • I will have to admit that the police I see around where I live seem to be liked by residents. The area has very little crime. We are told it has the lowest crime rate in our county.

        We have an informal homeowners association. (No dues required; give $40 a year if you would like to support the organization.) Once a year, a representative from the police department comes and gives a little talk. We also get a talk by a representative elected to state governments. We are in an unincorporated area, so we don’t have a city representative.

  3. Nathanial says:

    Gail , even if the straits are opened up this week how are ships going to be able to go back in? It seems likely that insurance will be too high and most owners of ships don’t want them to get stuck in there. If the ship is not moving they are not making any money. They must be leveraged to the top as most companies are. Same is true for airplanes if they are not moving they are losing money.

    • Insurance will not be unavailable until at least months after hostilities cease. There won’t be any oil traffic by countries hostile to Iran until insurance is available. We are likely talking about at least a year from now.

      You make a good point about ships needing income, and they will not be making income until all ships can sail in and out freely. I hadn’t that of that issue.

      Airplanes are short of jet fuel. They definitely need to cut back, regardless of the excuse. This would be a reason.

  4. Tim Groves says:

    I’m saying a prayer for Jordan Peterson, as he is going through absolute hell these days.

    According to his daughter Mikhalia, he’s suffering from akathisia.

    Cleveland Clinic tells us: Akathisia is a movement disorder characterized by an intense, subjective, and often distressing feeling of inner restlessness and a compulsion to move, typically affecting the legs. Common symptoms include constant pacing, shifting weight, marching in place, and an inability to sit or stand still. It is most frequently caused by antipsychotic medications (psych meds), though antidepressants and other drugs can trigger it.

    To compound matters, he’s also had pneumonia and sepsis.

    Jordan took psych meds in an effort to cope with anxiety and depression when his wife was suffering from cancer. His biggest problem was Valium (diazepam). But he hasn’t been on any psych meds since January 2020, and his latest flare up came in August 2025, which if it is connected to the drugs is quite a delayed effect. 2025 was a tough year as both of Jordan’s parents died and he moved countries, so the stress of dealing with that may have been enough to trigger his current symptoms.

    Mikhalia speaks with a degree of personal experience as she also developed akathisia ten years ago when coming off the SSRI antidepressant Lexapro (escitalopram). That lasted about 2 and a half years. She says one in six Americans are on some type of psych drug, and that long-term use appears to cause mitochondrial disfunction that manifests as neurological injury.

    The take-away from this talk is that long term use of psych meds, SSRIs, and benzos cause dependency, mess up the brain, and are often not the solutions they promise to be. Mikhalia doesn’t want “morons on the internet” speculating about her father and offering advice, but that won’t stop us, will it, guys ‘n’ gals?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9bzpDogoeo

    Perhaps with the right medical help, Jordan will make another recovery. I hope so. but we should realize that he is no longer a spring chicken and he is unlikely to ever recover his former mental and neurological robustness. So from now on, he needs to keep calm, take it easy, rest his nerves, feed his mitochondria, and stay away from drugs, as well as from stressors like jet-setting and parties with members of the Intellectual Dark Web.

    I find it very ironic that during his career as a psychologist, Jordan was an enthusiastic advocate of antidepressants. From his website we learn that: ‘While emphasizing lifestyle and behavioral interventions, he has acknowledged the utility of antidepressants, especially for individuals with severe, debilitating depression. He has described them as ‘miraculous’ for some when combined with proper diagnosis and behavioral changes.

    “He has discussed depression in terms of brain chemistry, linking, for example, decreased serotonin production to increased sensitivity to negative emotions and reduced positive affect, often referencing biological factors in mental health.”

    I’m sure you all get on your knees and say your prayers before jumping into bed at night. While there is quite a long queue of suffering people who need all the divine intervention they can get these days, if you could include Jordan and his family in your prayers that would be a great kindness.

    And I know a lot of people don’t believe that Heaven can possibly hear and answer all the billions of prayers of all the billions of people who pray every day. “That would be impossible,” these doubters assert. But in recent, even humans have managed to build information processing systems and communication networks that allow Google or Grok or Claude or GPT or Deep Seek to answer the questions of billions of people as quick as a flash. And anything we can do, surely Heaven can do better.

    • The world now has no time for a has been guru who was famous in a previous age

      Stephen Hawking, probably the longest lived person in that condition, died after Elon Musk became big and took all the laurels, and is now implicated in the Epstein case

      Jordan Peterson is going thru the same process, becoming irrelevant

      At least they waited long enough for Hawking to croak before revealing the incident

      I don’t know what bones are being hidden in Peterson’s closet but they will be revealed one way or another, and the only question is whether they will wait till he goes

    • Thanks for reminding us that what seem like innocuous medications can have long lasting effects. Or perhaps there are injuries that only show up later.

      Anti-depressants are used by an incredibly large number of people. No one really knows the side effects until after years, and even then they may be confused about what are side effects and what is normal aging. I stay away from both prescription and over-the-counter medications as much as possible.

  5. raviuppal4 says:

    Trump’s full Truth Social post from earlier:

    Iran decided to fire bullets yesterday in the Strait of Hormuz — A Total Violation of our Ceasefire Agreement! Many of them were aimed at a French Ship, and a Freighter from the United Kingdom. That wasn’t nice, was it?

    My Representatives are going to Islamabad, Pakistan — They will be there tomorrow evening, for Negotiations. Iran recently announced that they were closing the Strait, which is strange, because our BLOCKADE has already closed it.

    They’re helping us without knowing, and they are the ones that lose with the closed passage, $500 Million Dollars a day! The United States loses nothing. In fact, many Ships are headed, right now, to the U.S., Texas, Louisiana, and Alaska, to load up, compliments of the IRGC, always wanting to be “the tough guy!”

    We’re offering a very fair and reasonable DEAL, and I hope they take it because, if they don’t, the United States is going to knock out every single Power Plant, and every single Bridge, in Iran.

    NO MORE MR. NICE GUY! They’ll come down fast, they’ll come down easy and, if they don’t take the DEAL, it will be my Honor to do what has to be done, which should have been done to Iran, by other Presidents, for the last 47 years. IT’S TIME FOR THE IRAN KILLING MACHINE TO END! President DONALD J. TRUMP

    Back to square one .

    • The whole ceasefire show is a market speculation strategy

    • Tim Groves says:

      Just when sin was quite the thing
      There’s one who holds quite tight to what had worked before
      What’s his outlet, what’s his secret?
      Is it something one can buy at some drugstore?
      Could the gospel be his girl?

      In just what is his game?
      Could he be enticed?
      No, no one’s quite that lame
      No one’s quite that nice
      That nice
      That nice

      No, no more Mr. Nice Guys
      Few are left but him
      No more Mr. Nice Guys
      The Nice Guys cannot
      And the Nice Guys shall not
      The Nice Guys will not win

    • Mike Jones says:

      No more Mister Nice Guy…now that brings back memories of my youth

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN6ngThqMEs

      Alice Cooper in the early 70s..before the first energy crisis

      My gang loved that tune along with schools out

      • Tim Groves says:

        Yes, Alice Cooper really rocked—music to break school windows to.

        • Itrustmydog says:

          I won tickets to a Alice Cooper concert calling a radio station on a whim. It was so bad I left within five minutes although there were some really foxy goth chicks wandering about the concession stand apparently also trying to move as far away from the source of the noise as possible. My comrades comment. I’d rather be in the last row of a Metallica parking lot concert than there. I agreed whole heartably. The noise they were making was awful. And not a good headbanger awful. Should have asked the goth girls if they wanted to split with us first although probably that would have been yet another really bad idea. It was possible their mom was picking them up later.

          We left a single car passing before a row of police officers in their cars eyeing us and my ancient Datsun.

          • reante says:

            You and Wooderson, huh? Hell yeah:

            https://youtube.com/shorts/sbctDw-i0-4

            • Itrustmydog says:

              I have always complied with the law absaloutly in this matter even when some ladies have had other ideas. I’m certainly not much of a Romeo. Understanding that high school standards do not apply to romance once your 18 is part of coming of age. Those days are long past for me. At the time I did sometimes find it ironic at the time that I finally knew what I was doing and had lost some of my shyness certain opportunities had to be discarded. I was always really that way. I never liked romance when the girl had ingested any real quantity of alcohol for instance although later in life I came to find it was SOP for many. Where I grew up there was really no enforcement of age in liquor sales. Pretty much everyone could get served here or there at 13. Police had other things to worry about. Adolescent romance often involved alcohol but I never really liked it. It was a different time. Romance a quart of old eightball ( no 40s);and a spot.

              Times were tough in the 70s. People don’t realize. Credit wasn’t extended the way it is now.

              Body count wise I’m absaloutly sub par. Now most all the ladies address me as “sir” I’m way out of the “in spec” window. No simp duty for me even if I had it which I don’t. Where did the time go? Some of my women friends continue to educate me gently shaking their heads. Dude. You do know you are old?

              It’s a interesting thing to look up that girl that you found irresistible back in the day and go what.. then look in the mirror and realize… Reality.

            • reante says:

              Overall real similar to my own experience just about a decade and a half earlier than mine. I never had a one night stand in my entire life. I understand the appeal of course but I never had any interest in it myself. Diehard romantic.

      • reante says:

        Those two tracks are integral to the Richard Linklater masterpiece, “Dazed and Confused.”

  6. Progress of technology was never for the benefit of the lowlives , the kind of people the Duke of Wellington called the Scum of the Earth.

    Gemini and Wikipedia have excised Wellington’s name from this quote but such was how Wellington, and other European elites before 1914, saw the common people.

    All these progresses and advances are for the top 1% of society, the worthy. The next 9% are needed to provide services for the 1%, since it is not too comforting to be served by the robot servants. The 1% needs to have people to lord over and it is no fun to lord over machines which do not really obey or respect the owner.

    HG Wells wrote that the morlocks would eventually overcome the Eloi, but the trends in 1910 was not such . Except in USA, which was a different story I am not getting into today, the elite class was so supreme that the rest were being marginalized and like Jude the Obscure, by Thomas Hardy, a country hick who became famous but left no descendants, their lines died out one way or another – it was simply not cool to be smarter than one’s own social order

    Thanks to Gabby Princip the cross dresser, Joe Gallieni and Chucky Fitzclarence, the worthy class were decisively weakened by the Great War and for the first time in the entire history of humankind, the Scum of the Earth gained enough power to be relevant.

    AI and all that are attempt to exclude the peoples who do not belong to civilization from all the benefits of progress since they did nothing to earn it while consuming enormous resources for zero benefits. I approve it.

    I have absolutely zero empathy toward the lives of the scum class.

    It is basically reversing everything since 1914. Not too different from the Sorcerer’s apprentice in Fantasia – Micky Mouse was given the magical power and messed it up , so the power is simply taken away.

  7. Tim Groves says:

    Reante, this one is for your Sunday evening entertainment.
    I enjoyed it immensely.

    https://www.unz.com/article/the-ufo-question-and-the-missing-physicists/

    • No mention of Asians except a Ling Li , a Chinese-‘American’ (by definition , an Asian can stay in USA for 10 generations but can never become an American no matter how he/she thinks they are so), who was silenced for the right reason, namely trying to pass everything she learned to China.

    • reante says:

      Awesome Tim. Enjoyed that very much. Shame about the AI assistance but that’s just where we’re at these days.

      Hand is real Hand is earnest.

  8. Tim Groves says:

    A lot of you are already following this Stack, but for those who aren’t, here’s today’s news:

    1. Critical Alerts

    Strait of Hormuz closed again within 19 hours of “opening” — Iran’s IRGC reclosed the strait Saturday morning with live fire on commercial vessels, revoking FM Araghchi’s Friday declaration. At least 3 attacks on ships, 20+ vessels turned back, Indian tankers fired upon. IRGC broadcasting on VHF: “We will open it by the order of our leader, not by the tweets of some idiot.” India summoned Iran’s ambassador. Multiple sources: Kobeissi, Reuters via Phil Stewart, zerohedge, MenchOsint, Lord Bebo. Confidence: HIGH

    US-Iran negotiations collapsed — no second round scheduled — Iran’s Deputy FM confirmed no date set for next talks. Ceasefire expires Tuesday April 22. Trump convened Situation Room meeting Saturday, said he’d have “info by end of day” — Saturday ended with silence. War resumption increasingly likely per Kobeissi, zerohedge, Ali Hashem. Confidence: HIGH

    Suspected insider trading on oil — third instance — ~$760M in Brent shorts placed 20 minutes before Araghchi’s “strait open” announcement Friday. Oil plunged 12%. Similar trades occurred April 7 ($950M) and March 23 ($500M). CFTC investigating per Drop Site, Kobeissi. Confidence: HIGH

    US STRATCOM unusual radio traffic Saturday night — E-6B “Doomsday planes” broadcasting atypical 12-group messages. Douglas Macgregor, Lord Bebo, neetintel. Context: Diego Garcia showing attack formation, USS Ford entering Red Sea. Confidence: MEDIUM

    Lebanon ceasefire collapsing — French UNIFIL soldier killed by IED (Hezbollah suspected), IDF demolished buildings in southern Lebanon, Israeli soldier killed by IED. Hezbollah asked displaced Lebanese to return north, considers ceasefire “not respected”. Per Magnier, Macgregor, Suriyakmaps. Confidence: HIGH

    https://no1sdailydigest.substack.com/p/daily-digest-2026-04-19

  9. I AM THE MOB says:

    Brussels pushes remote working to ease energy crisis

    https://x.com/FirstSquawk/status/2045734434859880910

  10. MG says:

    How will farmers cope with high fuel prices? It could lead to reduced acreage or the end of certain vegetable crops

    “Growers prepare for the season in advance. The war broke out just as the vegetable growing season was in full swing. Many had already stocked up, and most had purchased their fertilizers for this year. Of course, some still need to buy additional supplies. However, the more significant impact of this crisis will likely not be felt until next year. At this point, it is still too early to accurately predict its consequences.

    Translated with DeepL.com (free version)”

    https://hnonline.sk/finweb/ekonomika/96276418-ako-sa-pestovatelia-pobiju-s-drahymi-palivami-hrozi-okresanie-poli-ci-koniec-niektorych-druhov-zeleniny

  11. INVESTOR_GUY says:

    The up-arrow shaped recovery isn’t a tide that is lifting all the boats up. The up-arrow shaped recovery is a next generation, turbo-charged space rocket that’s sending the entire economy into orbit!

    • ivanislav says:

      If AI is so great, why isn’t it increasing quality of life? It seems that automating all the white-collar jobs actually does nothing for real production, since the white collars mostly create nothing. AI will have to improve the material configurations and production processes before it has a real impact, but that’s still a step removed from current affairs for the most part and constrained by current energy limits.

      • Itrustmydog says:

        My guess. AI is not for the benefit of the people. It is to create new war strategy’s, war intelligence and population surveillance.
        Russia’s new paper on how they see warfare evolving thinks ai will be a core component. Satellite imagery is used by ai to coordinate strokes by drones that are also autonomous as they strike. Autonomous as they strike is key because that’s when electronic warfare can stop communication with the human operator. The weak link is communication with human operator and this is how electronic warfare is effective They get around with fiber optics but it means a human operator has to be close and be the targeting vision engine. If the drone is autonomous ai serving as a vision engine and flight control only communicating with the master ai to be given satellite imagery targets it’s not even comparable to human controlled systems. All the targets can be accessed in real time from the satellite imagery all assets applied strategically immediately in real time. With humans not needed to operate the drones they have unlimited range with a small photovoltaics panel. It might take time to get to a target but they would get there. A system like this would destroy any military in the world in short order.
        Another possibility is that ai would be tasked with biological weapon creation. Ai could combine knowledge of human genetic weaknesses with next level understanding of pathogen genome evolution.
        Frankly those are still evolution of human weapons systems. Ai could come up with something completely new.
        “Siri. How could a successful preemptive strike be carried out with less than 10 percent casualties?”
        IMO AI is a arms race quite possibly the most deadly one ever implemented. It’s why massive resources are being allocated for it just like massive resources have been allocated to developing weapons technology for a long time. Resources that could be allocated to technologies that improve standard of living radically with new technologies. If ai is tasked with that instead of weapon technology it would probably be successful. Fat chance.
        Ai takes massive amounts of energy. If you can choke off energy to a nation you can choke off their AI development.
        We have no idea what we are creating. That is not stopping us. This makes previous weapon development look like sticks and stones.
        It’s nuclear weapons all over again. Only this time whoever gets it first eliminates the competition before their AI comes on line with its weapons technology designs.
        That’s why we are spending trillions. It’s not to replace doctors and lawyers. They could care less about that.

        • ivanislav says:

          I agree that AI is being treated as an arms race — I was pushing back on INVESTOR_GUY’s thesis thesis that it’s already turbo-charging the economy. I think it can be very impactful beyond tech stocks within 3-5+ years, but that requires resource needs to be met, which is problematic in light of the current conflict and political and economic turmoil.

        • It is basically a big hail mary pass to overcome humanity’s limitations and reach the next level of existence.

          Only the winner advances, the rest eliminated, the remaining resources preserved for the winner.

      • INVESTOR_GUY says:

        “Ten of the eleven sectors are projected to report year-over-year growth in revenues, led by the Information Technology and Communication Services sectors. On the other hand, the Energy sector is the only sector predicted to report a year-over-year decline in revenues for CY 2026.”

        https://insight.factset.com/2026-outlook-converging-forces-shaping-earnings-capital-markets-technology-and-global-policy
        Capital goes to where the demand is.

        • IG

          I know I’m wasting my time trying to explain things—but one day you might ‘get it’

          you have $1m in ‘capital.’…

          suddenly there is an fuel/energy crisis, and there is no fuel available anywhere….

          even your $1m wont buy you a gallon of petrol…

          With no available fuel the global economic system seizes up….

          when that happens your ‘investment’ becomes worthless…just numbers on a screen…—you can keep on ‘investing’ but that wont change anything.

          production of cheap fuel allows money to come into existence—-it doesnt work the other way round….money cannot create cheap fuel.

          doesnt matter if you believe that or not…. there are no ‘alternative facts’ in all this…

          money is a token of energy exchange, nothing more.

          • Tim Groves says:

            However, the more money you have, the cheaper everything looks.

            • user says:

              Money doesn’t make anything cheaper. If throwing money at stuff certain sectors made their output cheaper, then there’d be a lot of affordable housing or healthcare or the appearance of these things. It doesn’t matter whether it is investors in a market economy or a government of some sort doing the throwing of the money, spending money doesn’t lead to lower prices. I think “money” in many cases is a set of subsidies usually funded by taxing one activity to free up limited resources to fund another.

          • INVESTOR_GUY says:

            Huh? Market’s always coming up with solutions. Stop the free market from operating and an energy crisis happens.

            • lol IG

              I knew you would n’t get it—-

              what you call thr ‘free market’ is, right now, the debt market—everyone is taking on debts to buy stuff they dont need.

              but to make that ‘stuff’ requires energy input, not £$ notes.

              if ypu still dont understand, take a $note out of your pocket right now, and ask yourself ‘what can i make with this?’

              the anser is literally nothing..

              money exists exlusivly to facilitate the exhange of energy..

              —-i keep chickens—you bake bread, you agree to exchange a loaf of bread for 6 eggs….we would be exchanging energy…

              works well—

              until i have 1000 eggs, and you have 1000 loaves.

              exchange doesnt wotk at that scale, so we use money instead

            • WIT82 says:

              Capitalism cannot exist without the surplus energy from fossil fuels. The ideas of men are a consequence of the material conditions at hand and not vice versa.

            • capitalism is basically another word for greed—

              just matter of scale

              we are all locked into it.

          • Nathanial says:

            Maybe you should just tell him to watch Gilligans island, Norm. Then he might get it…

          • Dennis L. says:

            So if one has a farm, food and horses, does that count?

            Dennis L.

            • and if you have farm it is worthless (to you) if you let in lie fallow.

              On the other hand, if you want to use the piece of land that you own…

              to extract food-energy from your land it is essential to put muscle energy into it.

              but go into the fields and make wishes, the land will still deliver nothing..

              there are only 2 ways by which capital grows…

              b y putting energy into it.

              or placing bets on the ever -growing ecomonic system —-If you believe the latter, then you are definily another flat-earther. (the is a select group of them on OFW—you will be in good company.

      • INVESTOR_GUY says:

        We have plenty of production, it just needs to be more efficient. That’s where A.I. can help. A.I., financial services, healthcare, real estate, education, professional services, etc. ….that’s where the demand is.

        • Mike Jones says:

          That’s even pointed out decades ago many times in titles like Diet for a Small Planet and Small is Beautiful.
          So, after DECADES, what has happened the upper crust have efficiently concentrated most so called wealth in their control…sorry IG, efficiency…to a few it’s very efficient

        • WIT82 says:

          A.I will most likely consume more energy than it can displace. If A.I can make energy consumption more efficient in developed nations, underdeveloped nations will gladly consume more. Read up on Jevons paradox.

  12. Itrustmydog says:

    Gingevitis.
    The most important issue of our time.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4d_FvgQ1csE&pp=ygUYZnJlZSBwb25pZXMgZm9yIGV2ZXJ5b25l

    • Tim Groves says:

      And not only of our time.

      As Norman will tell you, British coal miners used to loose their teeth in their 20s or 30s due to gum disease. The veterans would tell the youngsters, have them taken out now and get dentures because real teeth will give you no end of misery.

      Both my parents—who were not coal miners but were smokers and didn’t get enough sunshine or a healthy diet or modern dental treatment or hygiene advice—had lost most of their teeth by their 40s. Mum’s mum too. It was very disconcerting for a young boy to see all those dentures floating in a glass of salt water when I went to the bathroom first thing in the morning. Actually, it was traumatic, I can tell you.

      • Dennis L. says:

        My guess would be smoking as a cause of tooth loss. I practiced for 40 years, decline of smoking was not positive for dental income.

        Dennis L.

  13. Itrustmydog says:

    You know what is the most scary?

    When Trump says ” I have opened the strait it will remain open forever”

    He believes it. Not literally believes it in the way we operate. In that moment it is truth for him it is truth. All that is important is that he can reinforce that he is the best ever. The Trump. It doesn’t matter that obviously that forces Iran to close the strait. It doesn’t matter that obviously he will be proved wrong and was in less than 24 hours. TIMO Trumps reality is made up of a bunch of Fox sound bytes and truth social posts. The same format he ordered all his briefings in. The same thing he watched 24 7. That has become Trumps reality

    Yet no one steps in and takes the keys.

    Trumps mental illness is very different than Bidens yet they are similar. Like Biden insiders reports Trump expressed uncontrolled rage at those who do not do as he wishes. Trump does not demonstrate the lack of focus that Biden did common to dementia where any thought gets vocalized. The last year of the Biden presidency everything he said off camera was ignored. Staffs sole purpose was to get him to stay on script on camera. That’s not Trump. Trumps world is about one thing. Trump. Glorifying Trump. Even going so far as to portray himself as Jesus in a post. What staffer who had Trump’s best interest would not throw a flag to the boss with that. Trump has only selected people around him that affirm any decision he makes. IMO this is his reality. It’s absolutely pitiful and sad. Yes I see that but

    TAKE THE FREAKING KEYS.

    I thought that a lot of the stuff said about Trump was just baseless attacks. It was non stop. Now that actual actions emerge that Trump is coo coo for cocoa puffs the press goes silent? They were non stop making similar characterizations of him when he was acting somewhat normal. Normal strong ego stuff. Now they are silent?

    You don’t do this. You take the keys. If you can’t you get the f out the car.

    What if you can’t get out of the car? Guess what happens.

    Two in a row? Sorry something needs to change. No presidents older than 60. Significant apolitical objective cognitive function tests quarterly. Assuming we make it through this which I find increasingly unlikely.

    Interesting coincidences. Ceasing energy supply chains. Refineries around the world suddenly blowing up with extensive damage. Leaders displaying behavior that would seem to indicate severe impairment. New technologies utilized in the many active wars with more openly promised. Standards of conduct in wars that are almost as bad as WW2. Ocean transit the physical necessity for supply chains and maritime law discarded.Not to mention that little event that came in when was it oh I forget was it 2020?

    I have no idea what’s occuring. None. Saying something is going down is a bit of a understatement. What is appropriate action when something is occuring that you can’t explain and no one seems concerned?

    What would make make me feel better? Calm competent leaders that demonstrated some understanding of events that weren’t focused on stupid little things that were their brand. Ship is sinking and they are talking about brand like parrots.

    The ship is not sinking because of your freaking brand issues. At the most critical moment perhaps forever all the leaders are functionally incompetent? Seriously? The issue is gingevitis?

    • user says:

      “Trump is coo coo for cocoa puffs the press goes silent?” The whole thing is just a reality show. The press was never against the man and he was never an outsider with fringe ideas. Him being in politics makes for good engagement on legacy media with the older crowd, and on social media. People, as always, are being herded like sheep by their betters towards certain behaviors or mindsets. Criticism only happens with social approval. Social approval comes from those at the top of the social hierarchy.

      • x-soviet says:

        Fully agree. Soviets did the same, but in a somewhat crude, unsophisticated manner.

        Same as it ever was – societies are layered, there were, are and will be castes. Humans (even of related genetics and/or ethnicity) are not created equal. Caste (genetics) differences manifest themselves clearly, especially in the times when there is not much to pass around anymore (like these days…)

        I plan to stay alive for long enough to witness the unenlightened sheeple masses squeal in horror and pain 😊

    • Dennis L. says:

      Guess: The US and N. America really have no use for the Middle Eastern Oil fields, we are self sufficient for the most part and oceans on both sides.

      It is fashionable to mock Trump, but he did win twice with a four year break. Has any man ever done that?

      Old saying in part, “Better for your friends to overestimate your strengths and your enemies to underestimate your strengths.”

      My bet is on the USA, stumbling is not a problem, it is a process of learning and going forward.

      Dennis L.

      • Itrustmydog says:

        Stumbling is a issue if you spill your noggin. Yes learning involves pain. But you better learn or sooner or later noggin is spilled.

        I suppose I am being silly. This is empire. Things change..

        You are absaloutly correct it is fashionable to question what Trump is. I’m not much for fashion. This is how it is from here on our. Empire. Different flavors all empire. Empire does what empire does. Duh. Best I get used to the taste.

        Why would anyone take the keys? First of all he doesn’t hold them. Second second verse same as the first. .

        I thought Biden was a one off not a new normal. I am truly silly at times.

  14. ivanislav says:

    This is nonsense, which begs the question: what are they trying to distract from? This is basically information warfare against the people.

    >> Trump Says First Releases Of UFO Documents Will Begin ‘Very, Very Soon’

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-says-first-releases-ufo-documents-will-begin-very-very-soon

    • x-soviet says:

      Gulf of Epstein/Epstein Strait did not quite work out, so the stupid sheeple needs to be entertained with something else…

      • JavaKinetic says:

        Good point. This is like that ace up the sleeve. A risky move, but if it looks better than Artemis II…. it might just fly.

        • reante says:

          If they’re gonna run with the fake alien invasion after all then you guys better believe that you’re all gonna be believers in the Beam when all is said and done. Forget the BNS, now I want the FAI!

    • Rodster says:

      Jeffrey Epstein is an alien! 👽

    • reante says:

      I gather that you mean the existence of UFOs is nonsense. Ultraterrestrials are nonsense, extraterrestrials are not.

      • Demiurge says:

        “Ultraterrestrials are nonsense”

        Prove it!

      • Itrustmydog says:

        My opinion. For what it’s worth. Nothing.

        Things certainly exist outside of our understanding. People try to put them within our understanding. This is called superstition or occult if they are so inclined. Aliens if they are scientifically inclined. Religion if they are so inclined.

        Humans are specifically wired to discard data that does not fit. When something is tried to input that is not formated correctly the system can be jeopardized.

    • Adonis says:

      Trump is being controlled by the elders everything he’s saying and doing is because the elders want him to ,it’s interesting you say that he’s now going on about UFO disclosure because that is one of the wish lists that the elders were planning for the world when peak oil had to be solved climate change was the first the next wasthe threat of mass destruction from nuclear weapons,terrorism was another oneand the final one was UFOs. of course there are no UFOs the UFOs are simply been invented so they can bring in another version of the great reset or a New World Order.UFOs were simply the elders idea they made this all up.

      • ivanislav says:

        >> the final one was UFOs

        I’ve seen seemingly old videos, some posted here, predicting this sequence (ending with UFOs), but I forget the sources and one can never know how credible they are. But, if it’s to be believed, this is the final and mega- stage of BS.

        • adonis says:

          That is correct ivanislav UFO’s were to be the final one I remember reading it on the internet I think the Club of Rome was involved which had its roots in the late 60’s and was set up Rockefeller and the Agnelli family all quite familiar with limits to growth, they obviously knew what was coming and once the limits to growth message was ignored ,alternative immoral plans were thought up to prepare or swindle the world into behavioural modification that they believed was necessary to solve the problem of limits to growth. I wouldnt be to surprised if they say we came from Aliens there goes christianity out the door.

  15. Itrustmydog says:

    You want some real oil not a bet in casino isitopen? That will be $210 sir.
    https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/2044727501608378466

    • reante says:

      The vast, vast majority of the prices paid for oil are the closing prices of the front month futures contracts. These ridonculous prices are panic purchases presumably with the assistance of the imf and world bank or something similar.

      • Itrustmydog says:

        Thanks.

      • In normal situations, I am sure that what you are saying is true. But when there is not enough oil for everyone, does the situation change?

        • reante says:

          Yeah surely the extreme spot prices are indicative of an increase in spot transactions but I can’t find any stats after exhausting all my questions to AI.

          And there are well established regulations on speculation that strongly limit speculators from holding closing claims on the front month futures market. 25% of existing held front month claims I think it is. Whereas genuine industrial traders — refineries, oil companies, industry trading houses — generally have no limits but it looks like the CFTC still keeps an eye out for harmful speculation on the spot market as seen in the last paragraph below:

          “Speculative Limits
          To protect futures markets from excessive speculation that can cause unreasonable or unwarranted price fluctuations, the Commodity Exchange Act (CEA) authorizes the Commission to impose limits on the size of speculative positions in futures markets.

          Core Principle 5, of Section 5(d) of the CEA, requires designated contract markets to adopt speculative position limits or position accountability for speculators, where necessary and appropriate, to reduce the potential threat of market manipulation or congestion, especially during trading in the delivery month.

          There are three basic elements to the regulatory framework for speculative position limits. They are:

          the size (or levels) of the limits themselves;
          the exemptions from the limits (for example, hedged positions); and
          the policy on aggregating accounts for purposes of applying the limits.
          Speculative Position Limits

          Section 4a(a) of the CEA, 7 USC 6a(a), specifically holds that excessive speculation in a commodity traded for future delivery may cause “sudden or unreasonable fluctuations or unwarranted changes in the price of such commodity.” Section 4a(a) provides that, for the purpose of diminishing, eliminating, or preventing such problems, the Commission may impose limits on the amount of speculative trading that may be done or speculative positions that may be held in contracts for future delivery.

          Most physical delivery and many financial futures and option contracts are subject to speculative position limits. For several markets (corn, oats, wheat, soybeans, soybean oil, soybean meal, and cotton), the limits are determined by the Commission and set out in Federal regulations (CFTC Regulation 150.2, 17 CFR 150.2). For other markets, the limits are determined by the exchanges. The Commission has adopted “Acceptable Practices” for the establishment of exchange-set limits (Appendix B to Part 38 of the CFTC’s regulations). Violations of exchange-set limits are subject to exchange disciplinary action. Violations of exchange speculative limit rules approved by the Commission are subject to enforcement action by the Commission.

          Speculative limits in physical delivery markets are generally set at a more strict level during the spot month (the month when the futures contract matures and becomes deliverable). Stricter limits in the spot month are important because that is when physical delivery may be required and, therefore; may be more vulnerable to price fluctuation caused by abnormally large positions or disorderly trading practices.”

          https://www.cftc.gov/IndustryOversight/MarketSurveillance/SpeculativeLimits/speculativelimits.html#:~:text=The%20Commission%20and%20exchanges%20may%20grant%20exemptions,a%20position%20limit%20or%20exemption%20is%20violated.

          • Interesting. In normal times, these strange things should not happen.

            • reante says:

              I wonder though if basically all of the presumed increase in spot market transactions would just be due to everyone who has oil in storage deciding to sell into the spot market in order to make a killing compared to what they bought it for. Otherwise it seems like no one who needs the oil delivery and holds a position in the futures market is going to let go of that contract throughout the front month or obviously into the spot market.

              I know Steve Ludlum would have a great feel for all this stuff.

    • “Iran’s joint military command earlier said “control of the Strait of Hormuz has returned to its previous state … under strict management and control of the armed forces.””

    • Itrustmydog says:

      I couldn’t help but face plant when Trump posted the strait was open forever Iran gave us everything yesterday. It ensured the opposite. Today he says they are “getting a little cute.”

      I would guess Iran is playing markets too. Put all available non sanctioned capital (in Chinese banks) into oil shorts after the Iranian foreign ministry said was open. Ditto for Trump. Then send a few of the boys out on a speed boat- which are state of art speed designs- for a joy ride and shoot some khalish in the air next to a British tanker. Not air drones. Not sea drones. Certainly not missiles. They don’t want to hurt it. Especially not sink it. Trump of course was short too. These joint statements where they agree work good for everyone. Right up until the market realizes when they say this you should short that not this. Which will be right about yesterday. So it’s back to tolls. Maybe even selling some oil. After a bit when the markets decide to use their play they can do the opposite. Say something hostile. Market having learned goes long. They short and follow through. It beats pumping oil when it’ could get blown up any second. There’s plenty of money market making opportunity. The war is a friendly one now. Who is making the most placing shorts and longs. In this war one spoils the extent of the others profits with press releases not missiles.

      After a bit back to real war. In the meantime might as well make some cash.and of course close the strait if Trump says it is open forever. Everyone needs R and R sometime

  16. Itrustmydog says:

    The king of poofs is food poof.

  17. raviuppal4 says:

    I have said for a long time . Two countries to avoid when the collapse happens — India and Egypt . Well this year is going to be decisive — no not if I was wrong — but who is first in line .

    ” Fuel shortage hits wheat harvest in India’s heartland

    At a time when wheat harvesting should be at full speed, parts of Uttar Pradesh are seeing an unusual slowdown. The reason is simple — no fuel ⛽.

    Across districts like Bahraich, Shravasti and Lakhimpur, farmers say machines are standing idle. Combine harvesters and reapers — the backbone of modern farming — cannot run without diesel.

    🚜 Many farmers are spending entire nights at petrol pumps
    ⛽ Several pumps are shut or running dry
    📉 In some areas, only about half the harvest is complete

    This is happening at the worst possible time. The harvest window is short, and delays can directly impact yield and income.

    Adding to the stress:
    🌧️ Recent storms and rain have already damaged crops
    👷 Labour is short and more expensive
    💸 Costs are rising, margins shrinking

    India’s agriculture today is heavily mechanised — which means fuel is no longer optional, it’s essential. Even a short disruption can bring the entire system to a halt.

    There are also concerns that global tensions are affecting fuel supply chains, showing how deeply connected rural India is to international events.

    If the situation continues, the impact could go beyond farms:
    📦 Lower arrivals in mandis
    📊 Price volatility
    ⚠️ Pressure on India’s food supply

    For now, the biggest worry for farmers is simple
    the crop is ready, but the system isn’t.

    https://x.com/gaurav_kochar/status/2045083250956366307/photo/2

  18. This story may be true for soldiers who have been on ships since the war started.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/morale-going-time-low-iran-173403314.html

    ‘Morale is going to be at an all-time low’: Iran war troops living on meager rations as Postal Service stops delivering

    U.S. troops deployed to the Middle East during the Iran war are facing scarce food supplies, forcing some to ration their meager meals and endure prolonged hunger, according to a new report.

    . . . Multiple vessels have not made port since the war erupted in late February.

    A 63-year-old man identified as Dan F. became deeply concerned when his daughter, a Marine stationed on the USS Tripoli, sent him a photo of the meal served aboard the vessel, according to USA Today. It consisted of a small portion of meat and one tortilla. Most of the tray was empty.

    A photo taken aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln, an aircraft carrier, shows an equally unappetizing meal: a tiny clump of carrots, a hamburger and a thin slab of meat.

    • Bam_Man says:

      “We keep you alive to serve this ship. Row well and live.”

    • Mike Jones says:

      Hmm, this ain’t good …Marc Anthony and Cleopatra faced the same circumstances facing the forces of Augustus Caesar near Actium and their naval forces were sitting idle with the men growing weary and weak from the boredom.
      Against his better judgement Marc Anthony pressed for battle and the outcome was decided when Marc Anthony saw Cleopatra’s flagship sailing away and he unwisely decided to follow her without thinking. Thus, the fighting spirit of their fleet sank….
      Doubt Donnie has any awareness of this and sits and eats comfy in the White House

    • Itrustmydog says:

      For every problem there is a solution.
      Trump fast tracks psychoactive drug research.
      Reduction of veteran suicide cited.

      I wonder if prophylactic administration could solve the recruitment crisis?

      If circumstances were different I would give a standing applause to this. Initial research into use of psychoactive drugs in controlled therapeutic settings has indicated off the charts success rates for various mental illnesses but these results have not been followed with continued research and approved treatment protocol. It is postulated this is because substances found in nature can’t be patented and there is no profit. The words “controlled therapeutic setting” being important here.

      Trump better watch his ass here. If he inadvertently spurs a cure for narcotic addiction the hand will not be happy.

      • reante says:

        Trump administration has overlapping functions. The short term functions are self-defeating but the medium term functions are in service of the Phase 2 national socialist target politics that succeeds it. That’s multitasking continuity of governance. The Hand can’t have a society full of addicts for Phase 2. BNS economic fallout gonna sober everybody the fuck up cold turkey style.

    • reante says:

      Meta-Coup For Dummies, Chapter 11: Take no chances. Groom the soldiers with Maslow’s Hierarchy; feed the inmates back home all they can eat while making the soldiers go hungry. The coup is timed to their breaking point and their breaking point is timed to the coup.

    • drb753 says:

      most of them are overweight anyway.

  19. The Ukraine-Russia conflict continue, and adds to the reduced world oil supplies:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/drone-attack-russias-tuapse-oil-refinery-unleashes-fire-so-large-it-can-be-seen-space

    Russia and Ukraine have continued trading blows on key oil and energy sites, with the latest being a drone attack targeting Russia’s Tuapse Oil refinery, which unleashed a fire so large it can be picked up by satellites in space.

    The refinery is owned by Rosneft and has suffered major attack before, in a March 2025 Ukrainian operation. Local authorities have declared a state of emergency, after schools and residential buildings suffered damage, and all classes have been canceled.

    This attack took place two days ago, but the fire has not yet been put out. The refinery had a capacity of 240,000 barrels per day. It is located at the edge of the Black Sea. The fire there therefore affects transportation of oil from Russia.

  20. drb753 says:

    Strait closed again (source: RT). that was fast. Of course brought on by Israel bombing Lebanon.

  21. Vincent van Gogh lived at a poor town in Holland around 1884.

    One day he entered a peasant’s house and found the entire family eating potatoes as a meal, and he drew such rugged life as a painting
    https://youtube.com/shorts/iNWYP1WV5kM?si=WwB91ZKoKRNDCYmX

    He simply called this painting the Potato Eaters , probably the first famous piece of art actually featuring the lower class, instead of some idyllic caricature.

    However, this 1885 painting shows a central piece – a lamp in the middle.

    Probably an oil, from Standard Oil, aka Rockefeller. (Royal Dutch Shell, which is neither Royal nor Dutch, was not formed until 1907)

    van Gogh’s painting, attempting to draw peasant life in Holland, instead signifies one thing – even in 1885 the poor peasants of Holland were connected to the BAU.

    Also, it is important to note that while van Gogh was basically jobless, he still thought the peasant girl in the painting, whom he described as being pretty in a letter to his brother Theo, did not find her worthwhile for him to sepnd the rest of his life with her (he did not marry but his brother Theo did marry an art collector’s sister – theo’s line continued till the last of his line, also named Theo van Gogh, was killed by a muslim terrorist in 2004).

  22. CTG says:

    Raving, I hope this is not offensive…

    https://x.com/_goat_l/status/2045464979290091654

    • x-soviet says:

      It is not – both are (genetic) Indo-Iranians. Eo ipso. what happens in the “family” – stays in the “family”.

    • raviuppal4 says:

      Not at all . I myself have exposed Modi’s ( India’s) hypocrisy on foreign policy matters over the last several years . As a matter of fact I was surprised that Iran allowed 5 Indian vessels to transit in the last 45 days since Modi was in Tel Aviv 48 hours before the war receiving an honorary medal . India made many mistakes . Maybe Gail can repost my comment on this made in reply to Ivan or drb .

    • This says. “An Indian oil tanker was fired upon by IRGC Navy gunboats and forced to turn around, after attempting to cross the Strait of Hormuz without Iranian approval.”

      • Foolish Fitz says:

        I’ve read it was a warning shot from the 109% destroyed navy. The ship promptly turned tail and fled.

    • drb753 says:

      As Ravi says just above, there was a comment where he enumerated all the slights by India to Iran. Lack of condolences for the killed girls. Lack of help when the USA sank an Iranian Navy vessel. The visit to Israel. There were a couple more things.

  23. Itrustmydog says:

    Strait is open!

    While people who are students of energy have realized Hormuz is the equivalent of nuclear power of destruction most people did not. With this kind of power comes great risk. We consider this a deterent. It is called mutually assured destruction. It is a cornerstone of policies and military doctrine.

    The first part of Irans deterent is their ballistic missile capability. When theiy demonstrated it’s capability in June things changed. It meant all countries in the region were in the same situation as the rest of the world. All nations are under the fire control of other nations. Only mutually assured destruction prevents our obliteration.

    From that point forward the plan to eliminate Irans ballistic missile capability began. Iran has put a lot of effort to prevent this. Missile cities immune to pretty much anything.

    Irans ability to project a mutually assured destruction deterrent depends on those missiles. If their energy extraction infrastructure is destroyed they destroy all the infrastructure in the region. The monarchs don’t like Iran and visa versa. If the missile svere removed Iran would still have capabilities to close the strait. This makes attempting to remove Irans mutually assured destruction deterrent a challenge to say the least.

    There are some 59,000 USA troops in the region now. My guess was a attempt on the missile cities was to be made soon. New war technology previously not deployed would have to be used. Both Trump and Vance have more or less stated that is not only a option but likely.

    The missile cities have been taken off line many times now. Conventional weapons bury the launch capability with soil. Iran has heavy equipment ready. They dig out and launch.

    One option is thermonuclear weapons. They could bury the cities so deep digging out might not be possible . If the ventilation system is buried it could end the capability more or less permanently. I don’t think that is on the table. Many have said mili6aould refuse first nuclear weapon use.

    I think a gateway weapon is planned. Something like the oreshnik missile the Russians have been using in Ukraine. Not like it in capabilities but like it strategically. Not a nuclear weapon but much more powerful. I consider these gateway weapons. Most probably use of such weapons would occur prior to a thermonuclear exchange.

    The Iranians understand mutually assured destruction. They understand they are finished if all Gulf region infrastructure is destroyed. Of course so is industrial civilization. That’s the point. The Iranians know a attack is coming. Perhaps as soon as this weekend. This is Irans last ditch effort to avoid the situation where they must implement their deterent.

    Unfortunately nothing has changed. The nations of the region are not willing to live under the mutually assured destruction ruction philosophy we do. Apparently their influence on the deployment of USA military is substantial.

    The attack on the missile cities will certainly be difficult but not impossible. First they will get buried so they can’t launch. Then all personnel on the surface would be eliminated with new weapons technology. Then ground troops would be deployed to finish the job. Then the task of removing lessor threats to shipping through the strait would begin. This would also require new weapons technology.

    By opening the strait Iran has said none of that is necessary for oil to transit. It does not address the issue that nations in the region are unwilling to live under the mutually assured destruction philosophy we do.

    The open strait allows continuation of industrial civilization although even now the consequences would be enormous. Unfortunately I don’t think that is the primary issue to those that are making the decision whether to try and remove the missile cities or not. When that is attempted Iran will try to excercise use what ever deterent they have that is functional. The degree to which they are able to destroy the Gulf infrastructure is unknown. One issue is the vast quantity of low tech shahed buzz bomb drones Iran has. These are in shipping containers. Since you can’t destroy all shipping containers these will launch. The Gulf is pretty much wide open. Air defense is depleted. If the targeting system they use is functional they are relatively accurate. This ensures some of Irans deterent remains intact regardless of the fate of the missile cities. Perhaps some of these will not be deployed to provide long term strait closure. Probably not. The focus will be destruction of Gulf energy infrastructure to end industrial civilization. That is the nature of mutually assured destruction.

    Assuming the new technology weapons are effective and there is a great deal of luck the strait will still be closed for a unknown period of time. There will be damage to the Gulf infrastructure IMO. The consequences both short and long term are unknown but I think we can safely assume they will be of a scale not previously witnessed. Additionally the possibility of new technology weapons being used in other conflicts will increase greatly. As mentioned these could be gateway weapons to thermonuclear or biological weapon deployment.

    The only sane action would be to abandon mutually assured destruction philosophy. It’s is a enormously flawed philosophy guaranteeing the use of weapons of mass destruction when the infinite nature of time is considered. It should be decided by all nations that these devices should be disassembled and their components destroyed. I am not fond of the concept of evil but i consider these devices evil and beyond the power that is appropriate for any individual nation or civilization to wield. The elimination of these weapons is a fairy tale and with their continuence the fate of humanity is sealed regardless of whether we escape this crisis or not. The task of ensuring some nations are allowed to wield weapons of mass destruction and others do not is not only futile it is fundamentally contrary to justice. Only one outcome is possible if the philosophy of mutually assured destruction and the devices that allow it continue to exist. Using the remaining resources of the planet in a attempt to create faux permanence is perhaps the most insane action ever demonstrated.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lh51upOLhv0&pp=0gcJCdMKAYcqIYzv

    • raviuppal4 says:

      Just my guess . On Monday Trump will announce something which is negative . We forget that today is Friday and Wall Street must close in positive territory . Then on Monday the dump . That is what Trump has been doing all along .

      • I AM THE MOB says:

        The straights are open.
        NASA on the Moon

        BAU is back!

      • drb753 says:

        a high probability guess is that Israel will bomb lebanon.

      • HHH says:

        I still believe a ground invasion is forthcoming. Only reason I say this is because. More orders for medical supplies have been placed than were placed at the onset of Ukraine war.

        Everything that is being said in media is just theatre. Maybe I’m wrong but these orders do come across my desk. Something bigger is being prepared for. Might be Iran, might not be.

        • Foolish Fitz says:

          How about Lebanon HHH, I wondered if they might try there before Iran and if they are going to put troops on the ground against Hezbollah, they’ll need a lot of medical equipment. The squat desperately needs help there.

          One more go against Iran, could leave ordnance levels critically low, to the point of no defence.

          https://huabinoliver.substack.com/p/the-us-war-machine-underwhelms-part

          • HHH says:

            I can’t get into specifics. But the numbers are so large. It kinda points to something bigger than Iran. Unless they plan to bring a whole lot more manpower/troops to Iran.

            Perhaps major escalation in Ukraine involving Europe or Taiwan kicks off.

            Might be why Europe has decided to sit out the fight over Hormuz.

            Don’t take the show going on in media as face value.

            • Foolish Fitz says:

              Taiwan, I doubt, because that would be a quick and undeniable loss.

              Europe, I can see the possibilities, however stupid.

              I’m more inclined to still look at Lebanon, with Iraq(what footprint is left) and Jordan(tribal leaders starting to get vocal) in desperate need of propping up(on top of the squat bleeding out). Could be planning to go for more than Iran. I think that they are very concerned about Hezbollah going on the offensive.

              It would be informative to know where the supplies end up, but even if you know, it’s probably wise not to reveal. That could get you Palantir’d a little bit further down this path we’re on.

              On a lighter note, the Iranians are very amusing

              “This is Iranian Sepah (IRGC) Navy calling on channel 16. Strait of Hormuz is still closed. We will open it by the order of our Imam Khamenei, not by the tweets of some idiot.”

              “You idiot, he meant your Idiot President, Trump. Just google ‘idiot’—you’ll understand who it is,”

              https://www.tasnimnews.ir/en/news/2026/04/19/3569242/iran-embassy-mocks-trump-over-viral-irgc-audio-google-idiot

    • Video explains that the cease fire is at most for the remainder of the cease fire, which is until Wednesday. There is little chance that all of the difference will be worked out in that time.

      Video (about 28:00) shows that US blockade is doing essentially nothing to stops ships going in and out of Straight of Hormuz. Underlying issues remain the same. Insurers will not offer insurance to ships going through the straight. The situation is not too different from what it was before.

    • reante says:

      Why do you think that the American elites are insane and effectively suicidal? Just based on their actions thus far?

      • American elites somehow think that the country can retain its hegemony if they can somehow stick around long enough to beat Iran. The US can’t beat Iran however, and their hegemony is pretty clearly headed down the drain.

        • reante says:

          Yeah but dog here’s talking about MAD. Which I agree with if they went through with the gateway weapons approach in a Hand-less world. Curious about these gateway weapons too.

        • HerbHere says:

          I love reading Gails’s comments. Her years as an actuary gives her an uncanny ability to boil it down to a simple statement of fact. I’m printing this one and taping it to the wall to remind myself, “oh yeah, that’s what’s going on!” when my head is spinning and can’t figure out the world.

      • Itrustmydog says:

        Terminology is important. Suicide is where cessation is desired. That’s different from taking risks that have the possibility of cessation. To some extent that’s a matter of understanding. Driving a car is dangerous but we accept that risk to enjoy a better life. Because of that it is a judgement call what’s appropriate. It involves how dangerous the activity is and how important the goal achieved by the risk is.

        From a personal perspective I believe that taking risks with your own life is very different than taking risk with others. Personally I think putting others at risk is pretty despicable.

        This nuanced sometimes but I will ignore things like vaccinations. A thermonuclear war puts the lives of every human on the planet at risk including children. I think particular care should be taken with innocent children and animals. The scale of this risk is unimaginable large so any reason to take that risk should be equally large. If you take unnecessary risk with even a single child it is a crime. Child endangerment. The same logic should certainly applied to putting every child on the planet at risk.

        You have to take your child to school. That entails putting them in a car. Risk. Necessary risk.

        The standard in the past is to assume the authorities taking risk do so with good reason and that they have our best interest at heart.
        In it’s inception borne of the creation of nuclear weapons the reason for creating nuclear weapons was that our very lives were at risk by not doing so. This is where the idea of mutually assured destruction was borne. It was not a carefully thought out philosophy implemented out of choice. It was a philosophy implemented based on the perception at that moment of the soviet’s attacking us with weapons of great destruction.

        Mutually assured destruction by its very nature involves a threat. Threats can be made for all sorts of reasons. Some good some bad. They are inherently a attempt to control behavior by communicating consequences. . They are often very poor at doing that. Efficiency of the method needs to be evaluated when judging risk. Is the technique sound? If the technique is not sound why take the risk.

        Under any other circumstances if a entity or person was to say “do this or I destroy the world”:they would be the worst sort of terrorist. The worst sort of terrorist. Nuclear weapons are a tool of terror. They are not a tool of utility because we don’t want to use them they exist only to threaten. Mutually assured destruction is a agreement to live as terror as a primary component of existence.

        None of this is absaloute. Unfortunately mutually assured destruction is regarded as absaloute. The threat is so drastic that it is though compliance is absaloute. I would certainly agree every same human wants a nuclear war. A logical question is what is the best way to do that. A important principle is you become what you practice. If you don’t want a nuclear war it is unthinkable is building massive arsenals and delivery systems the way to do that?

        Very quickly after nuclear weapons were created the reason for their proliferation became continuation of the nation state. Not that the people have good and healthy lives. This ties into the ideas of winning and losing. The idea that nuclear weapon use is acceptable to avoid losing is specifically stated in policy. Note how far we have came from ensuring good and healthy lives of the people. Here a decision is made. The continuation of the state justify s destroying the world.

        I don’t believe that anymore. I don’t think continuation of the state justifys blowing up the world. Nation states may well be worth dieing for. There are worst things than death. I enjoy and respect the culture of the USA very much. So yes fight gsacrifice the lives of your sons and daughters horrific but yes. Kill everybody in the world. Not appropriate. Force always must be appropriate or it is evil.

        I’m a pretty tolerant person but let’s say their is a hypothetical nation that practices slavery and genocide that trysvto invade. If they try to invade do you fight? Yes . Stack them up. But even in this extreme fantasy scenario I say no thermonuclear war. Why? Things come and go. Despicable regimes fall. The horror of nuclear war is not appropriate. Even then.

        The idea fighting smart comes into play. You use the best tool. It’s not a terrible premise. What it ignores is force deployed must always be appropriate. Humans are not able to make that decision with nuclear war. It’s beyond them . Better to fight and die like men. I’m all for fighting smart. The horror of nuclear war is such it’s beyond the capabilities of man to choose to use it. If they come to enslave you you make them pay. You slaughter them if you can. But you don’t kill the world.

        Yes not loving the world is insane.

        The state has many aspects. Wealth. Economics . Territory. Here is where things go ary. The threat of nuclear weapon use not to protect the lives of the people in the gravest extreme but as a tool to sustain other aspects of the state.

        This is where the justification for nuclear weapons starts to erode.

        This is just the start of the problems. The reality is that the threat of nuclear weapons is so distorted now it is used for not only political agendas and even individual agendas and power.
        Terrorism . Terrorism threatening the world. It’s time we grow up. This idea we must have these things in our possession is wrong. The idea that we must have these evil things or we will be enslaved ridiculous. It would not happen but if it did we would not be enslaved we would die on our feet free. The reality is we have become slaves to these evil things. That’s the real slavery.

        Creating loving working is what creates a decent world not focusing on evil devices and terrorist threats. It is our choice. I think humanity should break their chains and regain their birthright. Defense is one thing. Necessary. Worshiping destructive power we are not wise enough to wield is another.

        The threat is real. Killing the world grows more possible every day.

        Yes. It is insane to not love the world. To kill it.

      • there are no ‘elites’ other than having access to obscene amounts wealth—which in turn buys power…

        and we collectively. have set the planet on fire….
        which makes us all suicidal…

    • postkey says:

      “2:32Trump, you know, has opened up the straight of war moves, dude. Trump hasn’t opened up anything. Iran has control. Traffic flows through as Iran
      2:40 not as Trump dictates. ” ?

    • postkey says:

      “So what Scott Besson did
      14:05yesterday as soon as this so-called ceasefire was announced is he imposed
      14:11 stricter sanctions on Iran also lifted they they they had lifted uh sanctions for b oth Russia and Iran with respect to
      14:20 oil reimposed those sanctions and then also threatened China in the process to the point that China now is is outraged enraged at what the United States did.
      14:31 So the bottom line is until those sanctions are removed, there will not be another round of negotiations. There
      14:38 will not be a meeting in person and this war will continue. I think it’ll get restarted next week.” ?

    • x-soviet says:

      It is, indeed:
      https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/bit-chaos-hormuz-reportedly-shuts-agains-ships-make-u-turn

      That’s why “them there” need to methodically eliminate each and every decentralized system – be it UseNet, IRC or Skype. Otherwise, taking the head out, does way more harm than benefit.

    • But Trump’s blockade is still in effect so it is for nothing

    • drb753 says:

      Strait is closed again! Cheers!

  24. raviuppal4 says:

    The media both MSM and social is engaged in — the SOH is open — the SOH is closed . The real question should be — did any additional barrels enter the pipeline ? The answer is none — so ” what difference does it make ? ” Billary Clinton .

    • Did any ship get insurance for sailing through the area?

      • Itrustmydog says:

        Actuaries know their insurance. Isn’t a attack on a ship by a nation state always uninsured because it is a act of war? Can ships ever be insured against attacks by a nation state? Were ships transiting ever insured against a attack by a nation state?

        • For all practical purposes, no. Unless you have a special policy that covers Acts of War, attacks on a ship by a nation state will not be insured. But companies have cancelled the policies, anyhow. I don’t know enough about the different kinds of coverage they offer. I suppose they are worried that some adverse events indirectly caused by war will sneak through.

          I know that early in the war, we in the US would hear about something bad happening (plane being damaged or something like that), and the announcement was that this was not caused by an act of war. It was incidental to the war going on. It would be hard to prove whether or not it was an actual act of war.

          • Itrustmydog says:

            Thanks Gail. It appears insurance is moot as the opanicity that is measured in metrics other than actual oil moving through the strait ( as Ravi noted) has suffered a reduction in short order. I actually had some hope. I experienced the emotion of being thankful. How silly I am.
            Industrial civilization ending not cancelled. Original tickets for the event will be honored.

    • runawaywise3f07697399 says:

      Reuters
      https://www.reuters.com › boards-policy-regulation › tr…
      4 hours ago — Investors placed a bet worth about $760 million on a falling oil price around 20 minutes before Iran’s foreign ​minister announced on Friday …

    • Mike Jones says:

      Keeping the Great Slovak Motherland safe from the evil x-Soviet Empire.
      Glad to see SLOVAKIA is choosing the winning side this time around

  25. I AM THE MOB says:
    • A country with not enough energy supplies tends to have one dictatorial leader, as North Korea does. They will get energy supplies from anyone who will sell it to them. They will work on new kinds of bombs, to retaliate. They will work on hacking other countries software. They will do anything, legal or not, to get what is essential for the economy. AI doesn’t figure this out.

  26. x-soviet says:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-says-admin-investigating-deaths-disappearances-us-scientists#comment-stream

    Rocket- and soon nukular “scientists” are being mysteriously (but peacefully) disappeared as we speak, is that the Phase 2 of your DA, reante?

    (Since, when we don’t have rocket- and nukular scientists anymore, we cannot operate those serious devices safely any longer, and, therefore, we need to shut them (those serious devices, that is) all down immediately… Right?)

    • Nuclear energy has not been a go-to major for students for a long time. An article published a few years ago says,

      https://orise.orau.gov/stem/workforce-studies/nuclear-engineering-enrollments.html

      Between 2012 and 2022, the number of students graduating with bachelor’s degrees in nuclear engineering in the U.S. fell by 25%, according to the Oak Ridge Institute for Science and Education, with the class of 2022 seeing only 454 students graduate with a degree in the field. At the same time, the nuclear industry is facing a maturing workforce, with 17% of workers in the industry over the age of 55 and 60% aged between 30 and 54, according to the 2024 U.S. Energy and Employment report. The report also highlighted that 23% of workers were aged under 30, compared with 29% for other energy workers.

      Most of today’s graduates will not have seen the actual building of a nuclear power plant. The material from most nuclear bombs from years ago has been “downblended,” to give fuel for our power plants. China has a dynamic nuclear power industry; the US does not. Good luck in finding and keeping scientists in the field.

    • drb753 says:

      The Hand knows how to trim excess capacity. In its wisdom, it eliminates unneeded expertise as well as large future pensions. But IMHO the field of nuclear engineering in the USA was already devoid of innovation 25 years ago and in fact actively suppressing innovation. And one of the disappeared is a general? you do not become a general in the USA by writing landmark papers.

      Yes, they have some molten salt things going now, probably because someone in Washington stepped in that this has going on too long and too far. It is also possible that the new reactor research is simply a subsidy program for existing national labs, which the DOE always eagerly promotes. It is not research in other words.

    • reante says:

      Yes exactly x-! My first thought on these disappearances, when I heard about them a couple few weeks ago, went to the Positron Beam DEW program. Maybe the Hand needs these team members as full-timers and maybe killed the others because those relationships weren’t working out. Especially when I read that one of the disappeared female scientists was this genius materials science woman who specializes in superalloys. As I’ve said in the past, my best guess is that Earth geology is unsupportive of the necessary concentrations of exotic elements necessary for manufacturing the superalloys(s) that UFO gammavoltaic engine housings use to contain the gamma rays generated by positron-electron annihilation. The Positron Beam DEW weapon can only be repurposed from alien craft and not reproduced from scratch is my assumption. But that still leaves a ton of room on the Hand’s toyshop floor for the human ingenuity of materials scientists far more advanced than my grandad ever was. I was told that my grandad went broke in his basement trying to perfect a compound for road cat’s eyes so that they would last longer.

      • reante says:

        x- I failed to take your second paragraph into consideration in my reply. Your guess is as good as mine on that theory but it seems an odd way to go about pursuing anti-nuclear politics. Can the industry really be that dependent on a small cadre of scientists?

        Which is my immediate reaction was to think it black budget/ black ops related.

        • x-soviet says:

          Can the industry really be that dependent on a small cadre of scientists?

          Not necessarily. The tech is old and somewhat primitive. But I will refer to your “misdirection play” (MP) narrative – how would stupid sheeple (or even better ones of us here on this Portal – not counting me and MG, for the sake of argument) know? All we largely know, is only what our Masters’ sycophants from the popular MSM tell us: UFOs have just freshly stolen scientists – therefore everything nukular needs to be shut down carefully for 2 weeks only (to flatten the curve, you know…), Jet A fuel easily melts steal beams, tall buildings absolutely routinely fall into their own footprints at the speed of free fall etc etc. Do you have any questions? I, for one, do not.

      • drb753 says:

        Positron beam Directed energy beam? Ia that a US funded program? boy, the trough that is the US government accommodates a lot of livestock. How is that energy going to be directed?

        • reante says:

          You must have missed an awful lot of my comments over the years.

          It’s a presumably US-based Hand-funded program presumably related to Rumsfeld mentioning as an aside on 9/10/2001 that 2.3T dollars seemed to be unaccounted for at the DOD. The next day, The Beam was debuted, which was the Hand’s coming out party that told world intelligence officials and others in the know that the Hand is not American. The Hand is global and it’s officially calling all the shots from here on out because the civilization is 3 years away from peak conventional oil production.

          • Replenish says:

            The Hand is giving me a workout.

            My new neighbor is a 20 something PhD candidate of theology with a minor in business, sustainability and migration and his Wife has a Masters in Psych, hoping to build a family.

            Nicely played.

            • reante says:

              Oh hell no who says “build” a family? We build wealth we don’t build families. Red flag number one. For all we know she’s not even a woman. And that’s three disparate minors if you ask me. It all smacks of systems theory when you add in the two majors huh? Big time. That’s red flag number two.

              If it was me I’d get to glassing them through their windows and sneaking up to the front door when they’re on their iPhones. Gotta make sure they’re iPhones first. And they’re both gonna have em because compartmentalization. They don’t even know what each other’s working on remotely. Their field work is probably joint though so watch out for the tag team action. So yeah I’d glass em and take em by surprise and act like you have an emergency and need to use their phone real quick, like REAL quick 9-1-1 style. If they balk or go get some other phone or are really on top of their game and pull another phone from their pocket then we know for sure they’re spooky and the real fun begins.

              Keep us updated!

            • Replenish says:

              “If it was me I’d get to glassing them through their windows and sneaking up to the front door when they’re on their iPhones.”

              Thanks for the suggestions but I’m just going to take the offer of Coffee for now. They are a refreshing addition to the neighborhood checking all the boxes with a sarcastic sense of humor. I don’t want to disturb the egregore right at this moment as this could be a formative experience for both of us. I mean come-on.. they’ve offered to maintain the no man’s land the last young couple created by building their fence at an angle and are going to remove English ivy from the trunks of the arborvitae hedge!!

            • reante says:

              We don’t have time for coffee and grooming. We’re most of the way through the BNS. For god’s sake man, follow the plan!

              That’s great news about the ideal sounding new neighbors. Sounds like they might be concerned about herbicides and happy to take responsibility for keeping their soil clean.They’re gonna love you.

          • Tim Groves says:

            If the Beam was debuted on 9/11/2001 and managed to disintegrate and pulverize the structure of the Twin Towers on that date, imagine how much more damage it could do today, with almost 25 years more research and development behind it.

            Disintegrating and pulverizing a few dozen Iranian underground military cities should be as easy as pouring a kettle of hot water onto an ant’s nest for the Beam and the Hand that handles it.

            But I’m only saying “if.” Because it seems to me it would have been far easier to destroy the Twin Towers in a classic conventional controlled demolition while using state-of-the-art Hollywood special effects to bamboozle the public into believing the buildings had blown themselves up like two humongous Roman Candles.

            I’m wondering if the girl named Judy in this video is a younger version of Judy Wood. 🙂

            And if developing the Beam has been such an important secret military development, I’m also wondering why Judy Wood hasn’t been disappeared after all these years. 🙂

            • reante says:

              For anyone wondering, that is gasoline on that burn pile and not diesel. The boys did it up right lol.

              Disintegrated but not pulverized, for the record. It never occurred to me that the Beam platform might have been scaled up beyond its original scale. I’m assuming there are limitations to scaling since it’s an aerial or low earth orbit platform. The version used on the towers seems plenty big. I always assumed that the mappable Beam projector itself was a repurposed/weaponized UFO positron beam generator from a recovered UFO crash vehicle which function is to annihilate electrons in the superalloy engine housing that then captures the resulting gamma rays for gammavoltaic conversion to electricity for powering the antigravity
              propulsion system. Presumably the Hand’s Beam is using a separate, reused gammavoltaic engine, which has ungodly energy density, to power a presumably scaled-up version of the positron beam used in a gammavoltaic engine, which makes me wonder if the Hand is limited to the power output of any given UFO engine, and also of course, limited by the scalability of the Beam module itself made from repurposed UFO materials.

              The physical evidence doesn’t support controlled demolition regardless of whether all the footage was manufactured. And postkey I believe previously linked to a video showing how this theory has been refuted by a forensic analysis of the available video footage.

              A weaponized positron beam disintegrates matter by annihilating enough electrons quickly enough that the force of these particle-scale photon releases explode molecules apart. And the ease with which the Beam can do so is based on the degree of electrical conductivity. 8.5x11in paper was not disintegrated on 9/11 because it has very low conductivity. Similarly, sand has very low electrical conductivity. If, hypothetically, Iran is not aligned with the Hand’s Non-Public Degrowth Agenda, then that might partially explain why Iran is burying its underground facilities. The rest of the explanation would be that burying these facilities protects against all weapons. If the Beam targeted exposed ventilation shafts, only the shafts and whatever conductive material was directly below the shafts would get disintegrated.

              Judy Wood made it very clear many times that she had no interest in speculating about the DEW technology. That was probably a wise move given her relative fame. I’m the only person I’m aware of who claims to probably have figured out what it is. Otherwise the DEW dissident community just defaults to microwaves in the context of the engineered ‘wild’fires but those are from the positron Beam too imo.

              The Beam pales in destructiveness to nuclear weapons, so its not a game changer beyond the fact that its a totally stealth leave no trace weapon operated by a Higher Power that nobody can challenge nor would want to because the Hand has an enlightened plan that all participants understand is the only viable one for managing the civilizational predicament.

            • Tim Groves says:

              I totally agree about the liquid fuel on the fire in the video being gasoline. I’ve done this sort of thing myself, and neither diesel nor kerosine burns as bright as gasoline, which is more volatile and has a lower flash point, so it evaporates quickly and burns nicely at room temperature.

              I have no knowledge of exotic UFO technology so I can’t speculate about what it could do. I also wonder whether exotic UFO technology would be needed, or whether the MIC could develop their own Beam technology. Regardless of the source of the technology, it would be feasible to build a space platform and power it using solar panels, a solution that has long been promoted by Keith Henson on OFW.

              Keith (2017): “The main limit is energy. If you have an effective way to capture sunlight off planet, then we are many orders of magnitude from the limits.”

              As far as I know, there is no hard, scientifically verified evidence that aliens have ever visited Earth. But that’s easily explained. if such evidence was discovered, the Hand might not want to publicize it.

              Re. refutation of the conventional demolition theory by a forensic analysis of the available video footage, my point is that IF all of the available video footage is fake, showing Hollywood special effects, then any forensic analysis can tell us nothing about what really happened.

              The FBI confiscated thousands of camcorders after 9/11 as part of the evidence gathering exercise. The Feds could have digitally altered the images stored in the camcorders before returning them to their owners. Seems a bit excessive, I know, but any outfit that could build a space-based Beam system based on repurposed alien UFO technology and then use it to disintegrate the Twin Towers, could certainly digitally edit a few thousand video camcorder movies. And we know that they did confiscate these from around 3,000 members of the public Amazing how in the midst of such a catastrophic terror attack, that they would have the presence of mind to go around doing that so systematically.

              Forensic analysis of the debris is another matter, of course. The Beam would have left very different debris behind than conventional demolition would. But even here, we have the problem of whose analysis of the debris we can trust. Can we trust NIST? Or Steven E. Jones? Or Judy Wood? I am afraid I’ve grown jaded after all these decades of everyone calling everyone else a government shill or a disinfo agent.

              One reason why I am not too upset about all the COVID health freedom talking heads calling out each other as scripted actors is because I witnessed the same sort of process with the truth movement after 9/11. This kind of thing is the perfect strategy to muddy the waters and ensure that the truth, whatever it is, stays buried too deep for the layman to penetrate with certainty.

              I will bear in mind your 9/11 theory, and if it is proven conclusively one day, I’ll do my bit to make sure you get the credit. At the moment, though, UFO technology is too far a conceptual leap for me to make.

            • reante says:

              Thanks Tim. Seems like low thrust restartable solid fuel motors (rockets) common to satellites would do the trick. The fuel supply can last decades.

              Thanks for correcting me on the topic of 9/11 video. I assume that they confiscated independent footage because the ‘planes’ were in fact missiles or drones with fairly glitchy 3D daylight projectors mounted to them to simulate planes, as made clear by the famous independent footage that was not confiscated.

              When it comes to analyzing the debris, we ultimately have to trust our own abilities of discernment according to our individual developmental stage.

              There’s gobs of hard scientific evidence including my own eyes. It’s all just unsanctioned evidence because it’s been sanctioned. What else is new?

              The structural plausible deniability of the Beam is what makes it a match made in heaven for the similarly mysterious Hand.

          • Demiurge says:

            Think of all our earthly machines and craft and missiles that have allegedly been stopped in their tracks by the UFOs in our haunted skies, as well as by those transmodal craft that arise from under the oceans and can then fly through the air and into space. My top choice for the culprits is our ultra-terrestrials (see the books of Ivan T Sanderson, Trevor Constable, also Jacques Vallee). And remember Charles Fort’s claim that “We are property”. Given all the recent talk about AI and robots and nanotechnology, etc., we may be approaching the singularity. It’s not out of the question.

            We know that TPTB keep new developments hidden for one or two decades or more. Do we really know everything that Elon Musk is up to? If you read Patrick Jackson’s “The Sphere Network”, you will also know that the ultra-terrestrials keep tabs on us humans. I am being entirely serious here. Do you suppose that the ultra-terrestrials would allow us puny humans to achieve the singularity and then likely challenge these UTs, who live underwater, underground and under mountains? And who quite possibly created us via genetic engineering, as is posited by some serious minds? No. The UTs surely want to remain top dog on this planet.

            Our coming awareness of the existence and long-time presence of the UTs on this planet will be the equivalent of a Copernican revolution, where nothing changes, just our knowledge of reality, and that will be revolutionary in itself.

          • drb753 says:

            Honestly, this is a load of crap. You can not direct positrons in a way that makes them a useful weapon. you need to produce them, and to produce them at scale they will have initial emittances of order 1cm in either direction. You can not even use them to produce synchrotron radiation without large installations (first to cool them then to radiate in a collimated way). they are quickly absorbed by the atmosphere. so you either put something very large in space or you just ionize the atmosphere in an expensive way. I confidently state that this will happen right after the first fusion reactor comes online. I also confidently state the Chinese will not give this a second thought.

            • Tim Groves says:

              drb, you’re not thinking alienesque enough.

            • reante says:

              drb you’re just pooh-poohing. You’re never going to see the possibility if you don’t inhabit it and get into the systems theory of it. Of course positrons can be beamed long distances, what do you think CERN has been doing all these years? And for deploying positrons through the atmosphere with high efficiency and low visibility, the Beam would obviously be a dual function beam with something like a UV laser creating a vacuum or near-vacuum column for the positrons to travel through. Put on your systems thinking cap.

              As for power output, if you don’t believe in UFOs then you haven’t seen one and I understand why UFOs would remain for you in the “I’ll believe it when I see it” category. UFOs were in that category for me until I saw one. That’s life, it’s circumstantial – we’re all not privy to the same opportunities. That’s the origin of all diversity, but nested within that diversity is a natural hierarchy of objectivity because limited experience is objectively limiting.

              Sometimes it just comes down to luck. And I got lucky on this one. A half-second experience was all it took to get the ball rolling. Life is beautiful like that. The flashes of inspiration.

            • drb753 says:

              you do not know what you are talking about. Leaving aside the fact that CERN has not been working with positrons for 27 or 28 years, even then the positrons circulated in high vacuum in a ring of magnets that are too expensive to put in space. The typical vacuum is 10-^8 Torr (so 10^-11 Atm). Magnets to store positrons are necessarily very heavy. you can avoid the vacuum problem if you are in space but even the tiny damping ring at KEK, Japan must be 20 tons of magnets or more.

            • reante says:

              drb you don’t legitimately get to say that I don’t know what I’m talking about unless the content of your argument is custom fit to the content of my argument. You are comparing apples to oranges if you insist on approaching my scenario from a commercial perspective. And the fact that CERN positron colliders are among the earlier colliders is a fact in my favor and not a weakness.

              You need to explain exactly why my sketch of a possible Beam weapon is impossible rather than just throw out a few isolated factoids while disregarding that my design sketch assumed a gammavoltaic positron-electron annihilation powerplant with a gargantuan energy density that satisfies your power concerns and also incorporates superalloys that overcome challenges of positron storage, even though the positron harvesting system may well be an on-demand one,

              I brought up the female scientist who disappeared and was a superalloys genius for a reason.

              The systems theory required for threading the needle in order to understand the creation of a weaponized positron beam weapon at scale is no different from the systems theory needed to thread the needle of understanding that sees peak oil collapse. You chose to journey on the path to understanding peak oil Collapse but thus far you are choosing to not journey towards understanding Beam systems theory. You’re being a normie.

              Go look at the developments in positron beam miniaturization. See the possibilities of superalloys.

              AI:

              “Yes, it is theoretically possible that advanced superalloys—and related additive-manufactured materials—could enable significantly lighter infrastructure for storing harvested positrons by improving magnetic containment efficiency, structural strength, and shielding.
              YouTube
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              The primary barrier to storing positrons (antimatter) is that they must be confined within vacuum systems using magnetic fields to avoid contact with normal matter, which causes immediate annihilation. Lighter, stronger, and more temperature-resilient materials would directly reduce the mass of the magnetic confinement infrastructure (traps) and the necessary radiation shielding.
              Washington State University
              Washington State University
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              Theoretical Advantages of Advanced Materials for Positron Storage:
              High Strength-to-Weight Ratio: 3D-printed superalloys, such as those made from aluminum, titanium, niobium, zirconium, and tantalum, can provide high strength at lower weights, reducing the mass of magnetic coils and containment vessel walls.
              Improved Magnetic Performance: Advanced alloys, particularly those tailored for extreme heat, can improve the efficiency of the magnets used in Penning traps, allowing for stronger magnetic fields without increasing the weight of the cooling system.
              Reduced Shielding Mass: If positrons are stored in a form that produces gamma radiation upon annihilation (like positronium), new high-performance, lower-density, or advanced nanocomposite shielding materials could replace heavy traditional materials like lead.
              High-Temperature Stability: Many superconducting magnets, which are necessary for positron traps, require cryogenic temperatures. However, the supporting, non-superconducting structural components of these magnets benefit from superalloys that maintain integrity under high-temperature stresses, which may occur if the cooling system fails, protecting the infrastructure, as seen in advanced turbine developments.
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              Key Material Challenges:
              While superalloys are promising, the “storage” of positrons often involves cooling them in a magnetic trap using a gas (like
              ), meaning the containment infrastructure relies on a hybrid of magnetic coils, vacuum technology, and shielding. The ideal material must not only be light, but also compatible with high-vacuum requirements and act as a superior shield against high-energy gamma rays.”

            • reante says:

              drb while I don’t imagine that the Beam platform is as big, the international space station is 450 tons, and it could have been outfitted with a permanent propulsion system.

            • drb753 says:

              it’s because you really have no idea. dual function beam? beam pointing for a laser and for a charged beam use completely different devices. and to think that I tried to read your posts on (exosomes?). it’s all gibberish. I started working with positrons before CERN started working with positrons. The ISS is immaterial, if you make weapons you need lots of them.

            • reante says:

              To drb, who thinks that America is structurally incapable of genius. And who thinks we’re still living in the 1980s. The extent of the thinking goes, if the Hand’s origins are American then the Hand cannot exist. If reante is American then reante must be full of shit about pretty much everything. Welcome to old dog catastrophic personal politics.

              “Yes, a dual-function laser and positron beam system, capable of creating a reduced-density “vacuum” channel to allow positron transport through the atmosphere, is theoretically possible and is an active area of research for advanced propulsion and high-energy physics applications.
              This concept combines laser-driven plasma wakefield acceleration (LWFA) with atmospheric propagation, where the laser creates a “hollow channel” or “density depression” in the air, allowing positrons to travel with significantly reduced scattering and energy loss.
              Key Technical Realizations:
              Vacuum Column Creation (Laser Channeling): An intense, ultrashort pulse laser can generate a “plasma channel” or “filament” in the atmosphere through a process called laser filamentation. This phenomenon uses the nonlinear self-focusing of laser pulses to create a stable, localized, and long-lived plasma column, pushing air molecules radially outward and creating a low-density region in its wake.
              Positron Beam Generation and Guiding: Research shows that positrons can be produced using laser-plasma interactions (e.g., irradiating high-Z targets) and then guided through these pre-formed, low-density channels.
              Preventing Defocusing: When a positron beam propagates through a standard plasma (filled with free electrons), it typically faces rapid defocussing due to plasma electrons. A hollow channel—where the plasma is concentrated on the edges (a “plasma annulus”)—acts as a guiding lens. Ions on the channel walls repel the positron beam, trapping it on the axis.
              Combined System Example (PROCSIMA): A proposal known as PROCSIMA (Photon-paRticle Optically Coupled Soliton Interstellar Mission Accelerator) suggests utilizing this technology to propagate high-energy particle beams, including positrons, through the atmosphere for aerospace applications.
              Experimental Evidence: Researchers have demonstrated that high-intensity laser pulses (above 10 PW) can generate dense positron bunches, which are then accelerated and confined by the laser-driven wakefield.”

            • drb753 says:

              apart from the fact that a laser capable of creating a vacuum does not exist, and can be readily calculated to use a huge amount of energy (you are talking about not just ionizing 10 km of atmosphere, but also clearing the slow moving ions), how do the positrons get to use that channel. the laser shoots straight but the positrons bend in the Earth’s mag. field.

              a 1GeV positron beam will have a curvature radius of about 60 km, and curve out of the channel quickly. At 10 km it will be 1.6 km out of the channel. I actually spent some time on this about 25 yrs ago (with others), and concluded that electron beams in space were the only possibility. You can produce them with very low emittance, and you do not need magnets except small ones for steering, but IMHO real time variations of the Earth’s field might still be too large to use.

            • reante says:

              Appreciate it. We’re talking about the second most currently theoretically powerful engine type in the universe, second to a proton-antiproton engine which presumably doesn’t exist. 100% mass to energy conversion.

              An electron beam doesn’t fit the circumstances of 9/11 or the engineered ‘wildfires’ or the scores of unsolved industrial sabotages resulting in fires.

              The AI says that the combination of the positively charged ions lining the vacuum channel that repel the positrons, in combination with the speed at which the positrons can be projected, would enable the positrons to take a linear path through the atmosphere. That makes intuitive sense to me.

              “Yes, a dual-function, high-intensity laser system can be designed to create a transient vacuum-like channel through the atmosphere to guide a positron beam, even in the presence of the Earth’s magnetic field. This technique relies on laser-driven plasma wakefield acceleration (LWFA) and plasma channel creation.
              Nature
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              While a true “empty space” vacuum cannot be created in the atmosphere, a hollow plasma channel can be produced. The intense laser ionizes the air, pushing electrons out of its path (the ponderomotive force), leaving behind positively charged ions and a low-density electron channel.
              Nature
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              Here is how the proposed system works:
              1. Creating the Vacuum Channel (Plasma Channel)
              An ultra-intense petawatt-class laser (such as a Bessel beam) propagates through the atmosphere, ionizing air molecules.
              Electron Channeling: The laser’s intense electromagnetic field exerts a ponderomotive force, pushing electrons away from the laser axis, creating an electron-depleted—or “hollow”—plasma channel.
              Wakefield Propagation: The laser drives a plasma wave (wakefield) behind it, creating a low-density corridor.
              Guiding Channel: By using an appropriate laser profile (e.g., annular or Bessel), the channel can act as a waveguide for a subsequent particle beam, reducing collisions with air molecules.
              Nature
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              2. Positron Generation and Transport
              The same laser system, or a secondary laser pulse, can generate the positrons.
              Production: The laser hits a target to produce a high-density, relativistic positron beam.
              Injection: The positrons are injected into the laser-generated plasma wakefield.
              Trapping: The wakefield produced by the laser traps the positrons and accelerates them, keeping them tightly focused within the “hollow” region.
              Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (.gov)
              Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (.gov)
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              3. Mitigating Earth’s Magnetic Field
              Positrons, being positively charged, are heavily influenced by the Earth’s magnetic field, causing them to curve and diverge (Lorentz force).
              Wakefield Focusing: The plasma channel acts as a self-focusing channel. The electric fields generated within the wakefield can overcome the magnetic deflection, guiding the beam in a linear path.
              High Energy (Relativistic Speed): By accelerating the positrons to ultra-relativistic speeds (hundreds of MeV or over 1 GeV), their increased mass (
              ) makes them less susceptible to the magnetic bending of the Earth’s field, allowing them to propagate in a straight line, similar to how this is managed in plasma wakefield accelerators.
              Nature
              Nature
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              4. Technical Challenges and Feasibility
              Distance: Creating such a channel over long distances (e.g., kilometers) in the atmosphere is currently extremely challenging due to air turbulence, beam scattering, and the massive power required.
              Existing Research: This technology is currently being developed for “tabletop” accelerators to produce compact, high-energy electron-positron colliders, and has been demonstrated at short distances (centimeters to meters) in lab environments.
              Nature
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              In summary, the concept of a laser-guided channel to steer positrons through the atmosphere is grounded in modern laser-plasma acceleration research, using high-intensity laser fields to modify the surrounding plasma and act as a guiding “vacuum” channel.”

          • lol reante

            i sometimes get the impression, that before deciding to write a comment on here, you put your hand into the scrabble letter bag, and write down whatever you pull out.

            there aint no energy beam…

  27. drb753 says:

    zerohedge as well as the italian press report the full reopening of Hormuz. marinetraffic map very busy as usual with few ships in strait. paper oil to 90. it is a week end of course.

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