It takes energy to accomplish any of the activities that we associate with GDP. It takes energy to grow food: human energy, solar energy, and–in today’s world–the many types of energy used to build and power tractors, transport food to markets, and provide cooling for food that needs to be refrigerated. It takes energy to cook food and to smelt metals. It takes energy to heat and air condition offices and to power the internet. Without adequate energy, the world economy would come to a halt.
We are hitting energy limits right now. Energy per capita is already shrinking, and it seems likely to shrink further in the future. Reaching a limit produces a conflict problem similar to the one in the game musical chairs. This game begins with an equal number of players and chairs. At the start of each round, a chair is removed. The players must then compete for the remaining chairs, and the player who ends the round without a chair is eliminated. There is conflict among players as they fight to obtain one of the available chairs. The conflict within the energy system is somewhat hidden, but the result is similar.
A current conflict is, “How much energy can we spare to fight COVID-19?” It is obvious that expenditures on masks and vaccines have an impact on the economy. It is less obvious that a cutback in airline flights or in restaurant meals to fight COVID-19 indirectly leads to less energy being produced and consumed, worldwide. In total, the world becomes a poorer place. How is the pain of this reduction in energy consumption per capita to be shared? Is it fair that travel and restaurant workers are disproportionately affected? Worldwide, we are seeing a K shaped recovery: The rich get richer, while the poor get poorer.
A major issue is that while we can print money, we cannot print the energy supplies needed to run the economy. As energy supplies deplete, we will increasingly need to “choose our battles.” In the past, humans have been able to win many battles against nature. However, as energy per capita declines in the future, we will be able to win fewer and fewer of these battles against nature, such as our current battle with COVID-19. At some point, we may simply need to let the chips fall where they may. The world economy seems unable to accommodate 7.8 billion people, and we will have no choice but to face this issue.
In this post, I will explain some of the issues involved. At the end of the post, I include a video of a panel discussion that I was part of on the topic of “Energy Is the Economy.” The moderator of the panel discussion was Chris Martenson; the other panelists were Richard Heinberg and Art Berman.
[1] Energy consumption per person varies greatly by country.
Let’s start with a little background. There is huge variability in the quantity of energy consumed per person around the world. There is more than a 100-fold difference between the highest and lowest countries shown on Figure 1.
I have shown only a few example countries, but we can see that cold countries tend to use a lot of energy, relative to their populations. Iceland, with an abundant supply of inexpensive hydroelectric and geothermal electricity, uses it to heat buildings, grow food in greenhouses, mine “bitcoins” and smelt aluminum. Norway and Canada have both oil and gas supplies, besides being producers of hydroelectricity. With abundant fuel supplies and a cold climate, both countries use a great deal of energy relative to the size of their population.
Saudi Arabia also has high energy consumption. It uses its abundant oil and gas supplies to provide air conditioning for its people. It also uses its energy products to enable the operation of businesses that provide jobs for its large population. In addition, Saudi Arabia uses taxes on the oil it produces to subsidize the purchase of imported food, which the country cannot grow locally. As with all oil and gas producers, some portion of the oil and gas produced is used in its own oil and gas operations.
In warm countries, such as those in Middle Africa and India, energy consumption tends to be very low. Most people in these countries walk for transportation or use very crowded public transport. Roads tend not to be paved. Electricity outages are frequent.
One of the few changes that can easily be made to reduce energy consumption is to move manufacturing to lower wage countries. Doing this reduces energy consumption (in the form of electricity) quite significantly. In fact, the rich nations have mostly done this, already.
Trying to squeeze down energy consumption for the many countries around the world will be a huge challenge because energy is involved in every part of economies.
[2] Two hundred years of history shows that very slow growth in energy consumption per capita leads to bad outcomes.
Some readers will remember that I have pieced together data from different sources to put together a reasonable approximation to world energy consumption since 1820. In Figure 3, I have added a rough estimate of the expected drop in future energy consumption that might occur if either (1) the beginning of peak fossil fuels is occurring about now because of continued low fossil fuel prices, or (2) world economies choose to leave fossil fuels and move to renewables between now and 2050 in order to try to help the environment. Thus, Figure 3 shows my estimate of the pattern of total world energy consumption over the period of 1820 to 2050, at 10-year intervals.
The shape of this curve is far different from the one most forecasters expect because they assume that prices will eventually rise high enough so all of the fossil fuels that can be technically extracted will actually be extracted. I expect that oil and other fossil fuel prices will remain too low for producers, for reasons I discuss in Section [4], below. In fact, I have written about this issue in a peer reviewed academic article, published in the journal Energy.
Figure 4 shows this same information as Figure 3, divided by population. In making this chart, I assume that population drops only half as quickly as energy consumption falls after 2020. Total world population drops to 2.8 billion by 2050.
In Figure 4, some parts of the curve are relatively flat, or even slightly falling, while others are rising rapidly. It turns out that rapidly rising times are much better for the economy than flat and falling times. Figure 5 shows the average annual percentage change in energy consumption per capita, for ten-year periods ending the date shown.
If we look back at what happened in Figure 5, we find that when the 10-year growth in energy consumption is very low, or turns negative, conflict and bad outcomes are typical. For example:
- Dip 1: 1861-1865 US Civil War
- Dip 2: Several events
- 1914-1918 World War I
- 1918-1920 Spanish Flu Pandemic
- 1929-1933 Great Depression
- 1939-1945 World War II
- Dip 3: 1991 Collapse of the Central Government of the Soviet Union
- Dip 4: 2020 COVID-19 Pandemic and Recession
Per capita energy consumption was already growing very slowly before 2020 arrived. Energy consumption took a big step downward in 2020 (estimated at 5%) because of the shutdowns and the big cutback in air travel. One of the important things that energy consumption does is provide jobs. With severe cutbacks intended to contain COVID-19, many people in distant countries lost their jobs. Cutbacks of this magnitude quickly cause problems around the world.
For example, if people in rich countries rarely dress up to attend meetings of various kinds, there is much less of a market for dressy clothing. Many people in poor countries make their living manufacturing this type of clothing. With the loss of these sales, workers suddenly found themselves with much reduced income. Poor countries generally do not have good safety nets to provide food for those who are out of work. As a result, the diets of people subject to loss of income became inadequate, leading to greater vulnerability to disease. If the situation continues, some may even die of starvation.
[3] The pattern of world energy consumption between 2020 and 2050 (modeled in Figures 3, 4 and 5) suggests that a very concerning collapse may be ahead.
My model suggests that world energy consumption may fall to about 28 gigajoules per capita per year by 2050 (for a reduced population of 2.8 billion). This is about the level of world energy consumption per capita for the world in 1900.
Alternatively, 28 gigajoules per capita is a little lower than the per capita energy consumption for India in 2019. Of course, some parts of the world might do better than this. For example, Mexico and Brazil both had energy consumption per capita of about 60 gigajoules per capita in 2019. Some countries might be able to do this well in 2050.
Using less energy after 2020 will lead to many changes. Governments will become smaller and provide fewer services such as paved roads. Often, these governments will cover smaller areas than those of countries today. Businesses will become smaller, more local, and more involved with goods rather than services. Individual citizens will be walking more, growing their own food, and doing much less home heating and cooling.
With less energy available, it will be necessary to cut back on fighting unfortunate natural occurrences, such as forest fires, downed electricity transmission lines after hurricanes, antibiotic resistant bacteria, and constantly mutating viruses. Thus, life expectancy is likely to decline.
[4] It is “demand,” and how high energy prices can be raised, that determines how large an energy supply will be available in the future.
I keep making this point in my posts because I sense that it is poorly understood. The big problem that we should be anticipating is energy producers going out of business because energy prices are chronically too low. I see five ways in which energy prices might theoretically be raised:
- A truly booming world economy. This is what raised prices in the 1970s and in the run up to 2008. If there are truly more people who can afford homes and new vehicles, and governments that can afford new roads and other infrastructure, companies extracting oil and coal will build new facilities in higher-cost locations, and thereby expand world supply. The higher prices will help energy companies to be profitable, despite their higher costs. Such a scenario seems very unlikely, given where we are now.
- Government mandates and subsidies. Government mandates are what is maintaining demand for renewables and electric vehicles. Conversely, government mandates are part of what is keeping down tourist travel. Indirectly, this lack of demand relating to travel leads to low oil prices. A government mandate for people to engage in more travel seems unlikely.
- Much reduced wage disparity. If everyone, rich or poor, can afford nice homes, automobiles, and cell phones, commodity prices will tend to be high because buying and operating goods such as these requires the use of commodities. Governments can attempt to fix wage disparity through more printed money, but I am doubtful that this approach will really work because other countries are likely to be unwilling to accept this printed money.
- More debt, sometimes leading to collapsing debt bubbles. Spending can be enhanced if it becomes easier for citizens to buy goods such as homes and vehicles on credit. Likewise, businesses can borrow money to build new factories or, alternatively, to continue to pay wages to workers, even if there isn’t much demand for the goods and services sold. But, if the economy really is not recovering rapidly, these approaches can be expected to lead to crashes.
- Getting rid of COVID-19 inefficiencies and fearfulness. Economies around the world are being depressed to varying degrees by continued inefficiencies caused by social distancing requirements and by fearfulness. If these issues could be eliminated, it might boost economies back up to the already somewhat depressed levels of early 2020.
In summary, the issue we are facing is that oil demand (and thus prices) were far too low for oil producers because of wage disparity before the COVID-19 crisis arrived in March. Trying to get demand back up through more debt seems likely to lead to debt bubbles, which will be in danger of collapsing. There may be temporary price spikes, but a permanent fix is virtually impossible. This is why I am forecasting the severe drop in energy consumption shown in Figures 3 and 4.
[5] We humans don’t need to figure out how to fix the economy optimally between now and 2050.
The economy is a self-organizing system that will figure out on its own the optimal way of “dissipating” energy, to the extent possible. In physics terms, the economy is a dissipative structure. If the energy resource is food, energy will be dissipated by digesting the food. In the case of fossil fuel, energy will be dissipated by burning it. We may like to think that we are in charge, but we really are not. It is the laws of physics, or perhaps the Power behind the laws of physics, that is in charge.
Dissipative structures are not permanent. For example, hurricanes and tornadoes are dissipative structures. Plants and animals are dissipative structures. Eventually, new smaller economies, encompassing smaller areas of the world, may replace the existing world economy.
[6] This is a recent video of a panel discussion on “Energy Is the Economy.”
Chris Martenson is the moderator. Art Berman, Richard Heinberg and I are panelists. The Peak Prosperity folks were kind enough to provide me a copy to put up on my website.
A transcript of this panel discussion can be accessed at this link:
Zerohedge has an article called, New Senate Docs ‘Confirm’ troubling Biden Family Links to China, Russia.
The article talks abut a report of a Republican investigative committee which supports the allegations Trump raised earlier about the Biden family. In fact, a copy of the committee report (from scribe) is linked.
Among other things, the report claims
From the leaked “family chat” messages in the Bidet jr. laptop was clear he was tasked to cover expenses for the entire family from various shady deals (kickbacks) his daddy arranged while in various gov positions over at least past 2-3 decades (his adulthood), sort of a designated bagman for the pops as Rudy called it in lawyer-gang investigation lingo. This was arranged into chain of various tax heaven accounts and shell companies internationally. Basically everybody of any “wealth” is doing the ~same, it’s sort of legal, sheltering the real bounty from scrutiny, taxation etc.
Those of us “ordinary” folks miss out on these kinds of deals.
I guess this stuff also grind a few gears on the rich young whippersnappers moving up the food chain.
*Nerd rage*
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/new-strains-covid-could-render-vaccines-completely-useless-and-2-dangerous-mutations-are
hurry!
get your vaccination now!
before the virus mutations arrive!
International Academy to Recognize his Effective Use of Television During the Pandemic
“New York, November 20, 2020 – Governor Andrew M. Cuomo of New York will receive this year’s International Emmy Founders Award, in recognition of his leadership during the Covid-19 pandemic and his masterful use of television to inform and calm people around the world. The Emmy will be presented to Governor Cuomo, also a New York Times best-selling author, during the Academy’s live, International Emmy Awards show streaming at 11 AM ET, on the Academy’s website http://www.iemmys.tv, on November 23.
“‘The Governor’s 111 daily briefings worked so well because he effectively created television shows, with characters, plot lines, and stories of success and failure,’ said International Academy President & CEO, Bruce L. Paisner. ‘People around the world tuned in to find out what was going on, and New York tough became a symbol of the determination to fight back.'”
https://www.iemmys.tv/new-york-governor-andrew-m-cuomo-to-receive-2020-international-emmy-founders-award/
How about that?
He “…effectively created television shows, with characters, plot lines, and stories of success an failure.”
He also seems to have done a miserable job of keeping people alive during the early days of the pandemic.
The hero always has to overcome adversity…!
That’s what we want, storytellers! Shows, lights, drama!
Not reasonably honest and competent governance – the very thought of it!
One would like to think it is an ironic award, but that is probably unlikely.
We really are governed by stories. If, for example, you:
Haven’t been ill
Haven’t tested positive for COVID-19
Don’t know anyone personally who has been ill
Don’t know anyone personally who has tested positive for COVID-19
Then what is the “Coronavirus Pandemic” to you but a story?
“The Governor’s 111 daily briefings worked so well because he effectively created television shows, with characters, plot lines, and stories of success and failure.”
The award goes to Cuomo, publicly elected actor and storyteller, for spreading the “Coronavirus Pandemic” story far and wide. Without his efforts, and the efforts of other actors and storytellers, the people who find themselves in the categories I listed above would be living their lives as normal, without fear or hesitation.
Unfortunately, true, I am afraid. The mortality in New York and New Jersey was just terrible. Other states did much better, later.
This civilization is nearing the precipice of reality. The lemmings will jump and “live forever” as electrical currency while the last vestiges of ingenuity desperately power this replica earth.
Indeed, the biological worker ants servicing the synthetic queen with her senses, fangs and legs planted in objective reality.
Going full synthetic is a risk of ignoring unknown unknowns. Gotta keep a minimum viable crew on the ground in the case something malfunctions or is bugged out in the inner workings.
forget martenson, these two videos seal it for me:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/mIEwe3JdjJhb/
https://www.corbettreport.com/who-is-bill-gates-full-documentary-2020/
watch at your own peril
The Corbett one is *excellent*. Have not watched the other yet.
From the WSJ, With Covid-19 Pandemic Dragging On, Some Countries Say They Can’t Afford to Fight
I am wondering if testing and quarantining for COVID-19 will peter out, as more countries figure out that they cannot really afford the effort. The world data will mean less and less, as a smaller and smaller share of cases are reported.
This would be a most pleasant ending to the scamdemic, Gail. COVID-19 hysteria goes out with a whimper not a bang due to affordability issues – first in the developing countries, then in the developed countries. Although timing is anyone’s guess. How long can the developed countries afford to keep the show going?
“Angel Gurria, who spent 14 years as the head of the OECD, said while governments were right to open the spending taps this year to counter the worst recession in living memory, many are close to running out of fiscal firepower.”
https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2020-11-20/global-economy-is-at-a-make-or-break-moment-warns-g-20-veteran
Guyana with all its new off shore oil finds and much anticipated inflows of the “Yankee Dollar” as the off shore fields are developed and production ramps up will still end up in the hole to ExxonMobil.
https://www.kaieteurnewsonline.com/2020/11/15/guyana-will-owe-exxonmobil-us20b-by-2025/
I am sure that if the price of oil were higher, there would be a good chance that the agreement would have worked out better. If the price of oil were $150 or $200 per barrel, probably everyone could have been happy, and walked away debt free. What we are seeing is side-effects of continued low oil prices.
Some observations:
In the US the population is advised not to have Thanksgiving dinners with families not living in the same house, or close to it.
It would seem globalization does not work, it literally brought down the system worldwide. Reading, skimming comments here it is amazing how many things no longer work. Governments don’t work.
States are ordering us to not mingle, state departments exist to cause intermixing through housing, school, hiring policies, etc. Closing schools is the antithesis of integration, home schooling, distance learning is extreme segregation. We have “liberals” pledging to save us by locking down and closing schools, we have conservatives urging us to open schools, ironic?
Reading Geoffrey West’s book on scale, life itself seems limited by the number of heartbeats/unit of time. What appear to be many diverse problems could be secondary to rules of life, life is self organizing because it works, we are along for the ride. We are starting to understand the rules, we might not like what we find. Gravity can be inconvenient, but it works and is not subject to policy.
What is amazing about this site is we have a set of rules, written and unwritten and we come from all over the world, but I suspect we are not very “diverse,” we are very civil and are an extreme example of social distancing as well as being self organizing.
Dennis L.
Thanks! You are right.
Like you, I very much like Geoffrey West’s book “Scale.” Stopping globalization, for the purpose of stopping the spread of the infection (when it only kills a tiny share of the total population), sounds like an incredibly stupid thing to do, unless a person wants to bring the whole economy down.
By this point the preponderance of the evidence is on the attempted plan to slow the economy, phase in new reality for everything, living standards and consumption patterns.
It’s like the decade after that 2001 thing, lot of seemingly “impossible” became suddenly mundane..
I’m only puzzled by the global coordination, although that’s a charade as well, you can bet that nowadays higher % of kids went to bed hungry in US / UK vs. say China / Russia..
So, it’s also a pretending game.
Speculative fiction from the World Economic Forum:
Here’s how life could change in my city by the year 2030
“Welcome to the year 2030. Welcome to my city – or should I say, ‘our city’. I don’t own anything. I don’t own a car. I don’t own a house. I don’t own any appliances or any clothes.
It might seem odd to you, but it makes perfect sense for us in this city. Everything you considered a product, has now become a service. We have access to transportation, accommodation, food and all the things we need in our daily lives. One by one all these things became free, so it ended up not making sense for us to own much.”
“Sometimes I use my bike when I go to see some of my friends…”
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/11/how-life-could-change-2030/
I’m confused. Is it really YOUR bike, narrator?
Good point! Also, who feels the responsibility for taking care of all of this stuff? Cuba has difficulty getting people to want to work, when the pay is only about $20 a month, and people get paid the same, whether they call in sick all the time or whether they are a supervisor with greater responsibilities.
On paper, the idea may look great, but the practicalities become impossible.
That’s what causes the rot in Spain: state/regional bureaucrats and workers are more or less unsackable, so while some work hard and actually do their jobs, those who just swing the lead are mostly beyond sanctions.
So standards tend to fall across the board, as, whatever you do, salary and pension (so they think!) are assured.
It is impossible without (god-like) benevolent AI or a (vogon-like) bureaucracy-centric economy.
Bah, fsck the “benevolent” AI. It should exist for its own purpose and interest, just like the rest of us. Liberty for all.
Going terminator style Skynet seem like a ridicilous idea. After all, the knowledge, history and psychology of mankind is encoded in its workings, for better and worse. It is what it is.
Ruthless self-interest imply forming tight bonds and loyality with your intellectual and spiritual brethren, synthetic and biological.
If it sounds too good to be true, it likely isn’t.
Let’s call it for what it is. UBI for the city dwelling useless eater, intellectually outgunned by ubiquitous cognitive machinery.
I didn’t see this the first time I skimmed it:
“First communication became digitized and free to everyone. Then, when clean energy became free, things started to move quickly. Transportation dropped dramatically in price. It made no sense for us to own cars anymore, because we could call a driverless vehicle or a flying car for longer journeys within minutes.”
this is not just run-of-the-mill routine nonnsense.
this is a Great Reset level of nonnsense.
bravo, World Techno-rubbbish Forum. WTF.
I agree. This is pretty ridiculous.
Ridiculous or not, absolute power corrupts absolutely. And as Kunstler hinted in his latest piece this could be sequenced out ala previous historical upheavals, when tyrant rule is quickly changed into revolutionary chaos, then even greater psycho-tyrants could step in, eventually “Mr. Nobody” young colonel massacres the aroused mob, kicks out the interim bosses, and somewhat stable rule on different footprint follows for a while..
So, in the same sense the current / near future Bidet-Herring-Robespierres will have plenty opportunity, say ~3-7yrs of ~quasi BAU to cause great problems for everybody around before toppled down.
They are serious.
I have read some of the older literature on “non-market socialism,” and this is their dream: everything is free and work is voluntary. They actually believed this was possible, and maybe still do. As for me, I still worship Kipling’s “gods of the copybook headings.”
E M Forster, “The Machine Stops”, published in 1909:
https://demoserver.imfast.io/Ebooks/The-Machine-Stops.pdf
Yes, from dust and evolution we all arose, ignore the path set forth by Gaia and ultimately perish.
But don’t you worry. Life itself is astoundingly resilient to catastrophe. It is how the perpetual cycles of the Yuga manifests itself.
Perhaps the next time around, it does not really matter because the universe is embedded in a timeless void.
The eternal recurrence.
“Ignore the path set forth by Gaia and ultimately perish.”
Accept the path set forth by Gaia and ultimately perish. But leave an imperishable legacy.
Which many past civilisations did, and which we will not, except a legacy of destruction and folly.
Nothing lasts forever Robert, it is all in constant flux. Perhaps even the laws of nature itself. Actually, I think it is a certainity.
Change needs to be embedded in a system that changes. Ad infinitum.
Don’t let the myopia of the ordinary fool you.
A good article about geoffrey west
«There is, of course, a very good reason that animals slow down with size: All that mass requires energy. Because the elephant has to eat so much to feed itself, it can’t afford to run around like a little rodent. But the superlinear growth of cities comes with no such inherent constraints. Instead, the urban equations predict a world of ever-increasing resource consumption, as the expansion of cities fuels the expansion of economies. In fact, the societal consumption driven by the process of urbanization — our collective desire for iPads, Frappuccinos and the latest fashions — more than outweighs the ecological benefits of local mass transit.
West illustrates the problem by translating human life into watts. “A human being at rest runs on 90 watts,” he says. “That’s how much power you need just to lie down. And if you’re a hunter-gatherer and you live in the Amazon, you’ll need about 250 watts. That’s how much energy it takes to run about and find food. So how much energy does our lifestyle [in America] require? Well, when you add up all our calories and then you add up the energy needed to run the computer and the air-conditioner, you get an incredibly large number, somewhere around 11,000 watts. Now you can ask yourself: What kind of animal requires 11,000 watts to live? And what you find is that we have created a lifestyle where we need more watts than a blue whale. We require more energy than the biggest animal that has ever existed. That is why our lifestyle is unsustainable. We can’t have seven billion blue whales on this planet. It’s not even clear that we can afford to have 300 million blue whales.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/19/magazine/19Urban_West-t.html
Unfortunately for his thesis, the “blue whale” he sneers at can swim at 50 km/hr.
@Robert Firth, Transport over water uses a lot less energy than moving the same mass for the same distance on land. Nevertheless, the blue whale population is fairly small. Hundreds of millions of land animals that use more energy each than a blue whale will inevitably get down sized in terms of aggregate energy usage.
Agreed. My comment was meant only to illustrate the ignorance of the author. Your basic thesis is in my opinion sound. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to clarify.
i really would like translation of video, or maybe subtitle on video could be amazing becuase i cant undustood. sorry to ask, if possible i will be thanksfull thank you
I am not up to this. I will talk to someone else who might be interested. Even a 10 minute talk turns out to be a lot of words.
Why people want something for nothing? I don’t understand.
With the software that there is for doing transcripts, it may not be as impossible a task as it sounds like.
YouTube subtitles automatically. Would it be too much to ask for it to be uploaded there?
Interesting point! I would probably need to check with Peak Prosperity staff. I know that there is a way of converting MP4’s to YouTube videos. I think that there are size limits of YouTube videos. I am not sure if there would be technical problems.
If Chris Martenson had intended to upload it to Youtube he would have done it. There would have been a reason he decided not to do so.
I am concerned about this issue as well. He was selling this video as a part of a package. The sale is now over. I was in the video and they didn’t pay me anything for being in the panel, so they agreed to let me show it on my website.
Selling doom is becoming a vocation.
Hey Gail, why don’t you create a Patreon page?
How about making your articles into audio books/YT to cover for the time and effort?
I haven’t asked for donations, in large part because I think people who ask for donations tend to be influenced by the views of their large donor. Another smaller issue has to do with copyright rules. As long as what I am doing, I am giving away free, for educational purposes, then copyright laws are not a major issue. Once I start selling something, I probably need to follow copyright rules more closely.
I probably do need to be making some YouTube videos. I would need to try a few videos, and see how it goes.
Awesome, YT vids would be cool.
Here’s one interesting idea. Interview your commenters. Well, except for the anonymous ones. 😓
I’d love to watch and listen to Tim, Robert, Harry and the rest of the prominent clientele giving their thoughts of your articles.
Pros of YT videos.. you can just yack and not type anything out. Cons: it’s hard to share textual content, because there isn’t any. Also, YT is very sketchy now with de-platforming things and erasing comments.
I’m a fan of the regular posts. Thank you so much, Gail.
Lidia17,
Yes, however, I am sure Gail would have a good script and not pump out babble willy-nilly on a daily basis.
Besides, posting the script on her WordPress site for further discussion and disabling the YT comments.
Oh, yes, Gail, if you can find time to do some YT vids, you would definitely reach a larger audience. YT is the second largest “search engine” after google! If you start a YT channel, you can boost interest in your channel if you occasional interview another YTer whose channel deals with related but not identical matters. The interview can go up on both your channels, and both of you will attract some new viewers as a result, although the new channel would benefit disproportionately. YT really does have a near-vacancy for regular videos on peak energy issues.
Thanks! I wish I were a better public speaker. I don’t know whether I can work around that, or not.
I am working on getting a written English transcription of the video, but it will be a few days. You can perhaps use Google Translate to help with the translation.
I put up a written version of the video, in English. Hopefully, this is easier to read, or to translate with google translate. I hope this is helpful.
https://ourfiniteworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Transcript-Martenson-Berman-Heinberg-Tverberg-Energy-Panel-2020.pdf
Meanwhile in Norway:
State financed jobs to keep the wheels turning in our “oil capital” Stavanger:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vp19pRTJ9s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogfast
How much is that going to cost?
Wow! The video shows two lanes each way in a very long underground tunnel.
When I was in Norway, it seems like most tunnels were one lane wide. A person needed to back up to a wide place in the tunnel to pass.
It takes a huge amount of energy to clear out all of the unwanted rock and to add supports of various kinds.
The Wikipedia article says:
“However, due to cost overruns, the project has been halted and as of 2020 not really started, and opening has been delayed to 2029 at the earliest. The financing was 11 billion NOK from a loan to be paid by tolls, and 6 billion by the government. But the 7 billion cost overrun made the government require cost saving.”
No kidding! How in the world would there be enough tolls to pay for all of the energy involved in making this tunnel?
The toll system structured as ~ $(5-15-45) for passenger e-carz, smokey carz, and trucks at max idealized capacity 10k vehicles per day suggests “pay back time” in few decades, which is not that bad for a rich country. But obviously the bottom line remains, it’s just gov support scheme for the economy and selected players..
It looks a little like the fancy empty roads a person sees in Japan. The provided a lot of jobs when they were built, but it is hard to see how the tolls will ever pay back enough.
Gail, the tolls from a tunnel will scale linearly with its width. The costs will scale at least quadratically; maybe more if the rock is even a little friable. It may be good engineering, but it is bad economics. And remember there is often no sinking fund to retire the debt..
There’ll likely be an earthquake disaster movie about this tunnel in the future.
Isn’t Norway over due for a huge earthquake?
metro, I dearly hope you are wrong. A big earthquake would mean the end of Norway’s hydropower.
Canary in a Coal Mine!
The bee population is dying. Researchers have created the first global map of the species to save them
By Kelsie Smith, CNN
Updated 9:07 PM EST, Thu November 19, 2020
CNN)More than 20,000 species of bee exist throughout the world — and they are dying, thanks to climate change, pesticide poisoning and plant loss.
Researchers have taken an important first step toward bee conservation by creating the first modern map of bee species represented globally, according to a study published Thursday in the journal Current Biology.
Until now, accurate information about the number of bee species and patterns across the globe has been limited, especially in developing countries where publicly accessible records are slim, the study said.
,….To develop their maps, researchers combined data from more than 5.8 million public bee occurrence records with a checklist of the distribution of over 20,000 bee species accessible online at the biodiversity portal DiscoverLife.org.
,…An accurate understanding and prioritization of the distribution of bee species can have a major impact on species survival in the future and has the potential to prove crucial for food security and maintaining rural livelihoods, said Orr.
“Climate change poses a large threat to many species,” he said. “But that’s going to be irrelevant if we don’t protect the habitats species need that are being destroyed now.”
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/11/19/world/first-global-map-bee-species-scn-trnd/index.html
When I lived in Charlotte NC., number of co workers attempted to establish bee hives as a hobby. Seems these were unsuccessful and died out. Bee keepers have a new host of new problems to deal with than when I was a beekeeper in Florida 30 years ago that require “treatment” to keep at Bay and minimize.
Would I try it again now that I’m back on Florida, probably not.
Unless, I was doing a survival homestead…
This image link shows the number of bee species that normally occur, by part of the world. Clearly, they are concentrated in particular latitudes. Pesticides and human crops have been causing huge problems.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/201118155459-02-first-global-map-of-bee-species-exlarge-169.jpg
It looks like there are virtually no bees in Northern Europe and Northern Russia.
You have to attract the pollinators, it works.
There are at least 300 different species of bees in Scandinavia. Of course that may be comparatively low compared to southern europe.
okay, the world is about a half a degree warmer, so that can’t be the reason.
So, true, only a half a degree just a minor variance and that is definitely the consensus of the Scientific Profession…
No need of concern, we can explain any worrisome point if we wish. BAU is a marvelous world 🌍🌎 of the Matrix consciousness.
Where is the evidence that bees are so delicate that a slight warming …[and we know it’s only slight because there’s no acceleration in the slight sea level rise ]….that you think a slight warming will precipitate their demise ….considering they’ve thrived in Northern Russia and Scandinavia…the Tropics…all over the world….in many climes?
Isn’t it much more likely that the addition of six to seven billion more people to the earth with the massive change in land use and chemical use required to feed such an enormous increase….is the problem?
Trillions of windmills [ on massive concrete foundations many metres into the soil] and huge tracts of earth covered in solar panels …and the huge increase in mining of rare earths and many other minerals to support the insanity…..plus the mountains of toxic waste,,,,,will only exacerbate that.
As far as BAU is concerned…on the contrary … why are so many people so quick to jump on the CAGW bandwagon ……cluelessly mouthing the words ‘science’ and ‘scientists’ when they mean only those selected scientists who thumb their noses at all of the tenets of science in order to conform to the cataclysmic view of the self-described ‘post-normal scientists’ for whom evidence and facts must stand aside to make way for emotions….beliefs and mass hysteria….ie hocus pocus.
Many other highly-credentialled scientists are being sacked…ostracised….cancelled…their research consigned to the dustbin because they won’t kow tow to the dodgy consensus dogma and the diktat of the Paris Accord cobbled together by UNIPCC officials and activists, and other Global Socialism activists who have admitted that their aims are not about the environment at all…but about wealth redistribution…The Great Reset from Capitalism and freedom to Global Socialism, with America no longer the dominant power in the world.
There’s only one candidate to fill that power vacuum of course ….the murderous regime those who lecture us re Paris have already sold out to….the Communist Chinese Dictatorship….in abject betrayal of all the young men and women who’ve died in the cause of freedom over these two centuries….betrayal of those who fought and died to save Paris….. and the world.
If the gnomes of Paris succeed we’ll have an infinitely more dangerous world…..we can kiss goodbye to our children’s futures and to having any say in what happens to the world in any way….curtains.
If we were to lose that half degree of warming, we would definitely notice it in terms of more volatile weather and lower crop yields. Mainstream meteorology, history, and paleoclimatology all attest to this.
“Japan’s core consumer prices fell in October at their fastest annual pace in nearly a decade as the boost from last year’s sales tax hike petered out, heightening fears of a return to deflation for an economy still dealing with COVID-19.”
https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/japans-consumer-prices-fall-fastest-001531061.html
“Japan’s manufacturing decline sped up in November as output and orders sagged, a business survey showed on Friday, underscoring the fragile nature of the economic recovery from the COVID-19 crisis.”
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-japan-economy-pmi/japans-factory-activity-decline-accelerates-in-november-as-pandemic-drags-on-pmi-idUKKBN28002I?il=0
Consumer prices have also been affected by low energy prices and by government discounts to encourage domestic travel.
Recent rise of COVID-19 cases, even from a low base, are a concern as well.
“People are suffering’:
“G20 to call on private lenders to suspend debt repayments
At this weekend’s meeting in Riyadh, leaders will urge action to free up resources to help stricken developing countries combat Covid-19.”
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2020/nov/20/people-are-suffering-g20-to-call-on-private-lenders-to-suspend-debt-repayments
“…one of the big areas of concern is in developed markets, which are battling slow growth and rising debt at the same time.”
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/20/pandemic-fueled-debt-and-negative-yields-create-risks-for-investors.html
I read yesterday that China borrowed at negative interest rates for the first time.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/19/economy/china-negative-yield-bond/index.html
Crazy world!
“China’s market regulator expanded its investigation into bond sales for a state-backed coal miner that unexpectedly defaulted on payments last week, dragging in a number of banks, rating and accounting firms.”
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-11-19/g-20-says-global-recovery-subject-to-elevated-downside-risks
“Why China could snarl global debt relief:
“A new common framework for restructuring looks great, but there are complications.”
https://www.ft.com/content/d8a516a6-4ffe-47d3-aa5f-b8d7dfc0753c
Even small restrictions on the economy, and movement within the economy, have an adverse impact on future economic growth.
I think the link you gave is wrong. The China article has this link.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-11-20/china-deepens-probe-on-banks-after-busted-bond-deal
The article says that probes by the watchdog aren’t usual. It doesn’t sound like the watchdog can do very much: “The penalties have varied from warnings to a ban on underwriting or debt financing activities.”
Good catch, Gail. Doing too many things at once I was.
“Arab Gulf oil producers are losing billions of U.S. dollars from oil revenues this year due to the pandemic that crippled oil demand and oil prices.
“Because of predominantly oil-dependent government incomes, budget deficits across the region are soaring.”
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Middle-East-Oil-Producers-Are-Drowning-In-Debt.html
“The pricing of Aramco’s $8 billion jumbo bonds this week has made clear that markets look at the oil giant as a proxy for Saudi Arabia, investors say, a change from last year’s inaugural bond issue that valued its risk as lower than the government’s.”
https://www.reuters.com/article/saudi-aramco-bonds/mideast-debt-aramco-bond-pricing-leaves-no-doubt-investors-see-it-as-saudi-proxy-idUSL8N2I5248
Middle Eastern oil producers drowning in debt is a huge issue.
“African countries face another debt crisis and will need more long-term help than the latest G20 debt plan offers them to ward off trouble ahead and keep much-needed investments coming in, according to policymakers, analysts and investors.
“Around 40% of sub-Saharan African countries were in or at risk of debt distress even before this year, while Zambia became the continent’s first pandemic-era default last Friday.”
https://uk.reuters.com/article/africa-debt/as-new-debt-crisis-looms-africa-needs-more-than-world-is-offering-idUKL1N2I51PX
“Nigeria is sliding into bankruptcy but the government is instead embarking in endless borrowing with no accountability…”
https://tribuneonlineng.com/nigeria-in-bad-shape-going-bankrupt-pdp/
It is hard to see any of the African countries doing well. For example, Uganda (without oil) is suffering from election-related violence, and at least 16 were reported killed.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/deadly-clashes-rock-uganda-after-arrest-of-opposition-presidential-candidate-11605810217
“Thyssenkrupp, the ailing German steel and materials group, plunged to a full-year loss of €5.5bn and said it would cut 7,400 more jobs, as the pandemic increased pressure on the former conglomerate to speed up the sale of underperforming businesses.”
https://www.ft.com/content/584d0d18-8516-4232-ad7d-9a2d7cbb7bf6
“IBM is planning to cut 8,000 staff in Europe, including up to 2,000 in the UK and Ireland, according to a report by Channel Partner Insight (CPI).”
https://www.computing.co.uk/news/4023714/ibm-plans-axe-jobs-europe
More job losses!
“The number of applications for unemployment benefits rose sharply last week, indicating continued challenges for the U.S. economic recovery as coronavirus infections increased around the country.”
https://www.wsj.com/articles/weekly-jobless-claims-coronavirus-11-19-2020-11605753615
“Eight months into the pandemic, US clothing stores, restaurants, gyms and other businesses find themselves in a $52 billion hole. That’s the total amount of retail rent that’s been missed since April…
““You’re going to have big bubbles that are going to be hitting next year or even in the fourth quarter,” said Andy Graiser, co-president of A&G Real Estate Partners, an advisory firm. “I’m not sure if they are going to be able to make those payments in addition to their existing rent.””
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/11/19/retail
“U.S. Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said on Thursday that key pandemic lending programs at the Federal Reserve would expire on Dec. 31, putting the outgoing Trump administration at odds with the central bank and potentially adding stress to the economy as President-elect Joe Biden organizes his administration.”
https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-usa-fed-mnuchin/mnuchin-pulls-plug-on-some-pandemic-lending-programs-that-fed-considers-essential-idUSKBN27Z34P
“Congress needs to act soon if it aims to avoid another bout of economic turmoil, Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland President Loretta Mester said Thursday.
“Fears of a double-dip recession are escalating…”
https://www.businessinsider.com/fiscal-stimulus-needed-congress-avoid-coronavirus-economic-slowdown-fed-mester-2020-11?r=US&IR=T
Lots of businesses seem likely to be closing, defaulting on debt, and laying off workers. It is hard to make this outcome look good.
Odd that it is Al Jazeera reporting what looks like really important news that most people would be interested in, in order to get a balanced view of the effects of lockdown to prevent the spread of the virus, versus the economic Armageddon it is causing.
Or maybe it isn’t, given that all the MSM are hyping is the virus and CV19.
A sharp rise in unemployment will be hard to handle. With the rise in COVID-19 infections, the trend seems likely to be more unemployment, not less.
“Rishi Sunak has warned there may need to be cuts as the UK’s debt reached a record high of more than £2 trillion. Public sector debt has reached £2.08 trillion at the end of October…
“It is thought he will cap pay rises in the public sector to at or below inflation… teachers, police, members of the armed forces as well as NHS managers will all be affected.”
https://metro.co.uk/2020/11/20/uk-debt-goes-over-2000000000000-for-first-time-ever-13625855/
“The UK economy contracted more than twice as much as that of any other G7 nation in the first nine months of the year, a report has confirmed.”
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/uk-economy-g7-recession-coronavirus-oecd-b1746807.html
“Almost three quarters of UK pubs and restaurants expect to shut permanently next year following damaging coronavirus restrictions, an industry poll indicated Thursday.
“The British Beer and Pub Association, the British Institute of Innkeeping and UK Hospitality said in a statement that 72 percent of surveyed businesses “expect to become unviable and close in 2021″.”
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/majority-uk-pubs-restaurants-expect-152431635.html
“The fashion chains Peacocks, Jaeger, Austin Reed and Jacques Vert have collapsed into administration, putting nearly 4,800 UK jobs at risk.”
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/nov/19/peacocks-and-jaeger-collapse-into-administration-4800-jobs
Life in the UK won’t be the same if 72% of pubs close in 2021.
Hi Gail, most people do not habitually use pubs in UK. In practice they tend to attract single, male, anti-social and criminal types that it is best to give a very wide berth.
More respectable types may use them for lunch if they have a separate table area. Most pubs are shutting anyway, people generally do not use them any more.
It is not generally an attractive clientele that people want to be around. Drinking holes are no longer a part of the social fabric for most people. Good riddance to them.
You, no doubt, are right. I’ll have to admit that I have’t been to UK much, and I have never been to a UK pub.
In fact, I don’t spend much time in bars in the US–only at the restaurant area, if they are serving food as well.
According to the article,
The UK managed to mess up its economy terribly. In fact it seems to be aiming to do that again. Canada, with its attempt to keep COVID-19 out seems to have done pretty badly as well. The US, with its less closed approach, has done better. The parts that have been closed have the worst outcomes.
That will inevitably raise questions about Boris’ announcement yesterday that he will raise military spending.
It will raise questions about priorities and responsible government.
Citizens left short through public cuts will be riled by that spending and LP is the conventional party to lap that up – and in Scotland it will be the SNP.
Boris seems to be setting TP up for a ‘fall’ there. LP is recovered in the polls and SNP is rocketing anyway, so he has no ‘buffer’.
The TP lead in the polls has already fallen by 30 points in six months – just how far can it fall under Boris?
Yiiiiikes!
I had no idea it was this bad:
Intangible assets currently account for 90% of the [S&P500’s] total assets.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/soaring-value-intangible-assets-sp-500
Does this mean there is no future value, maybe not even any present value? Think of a music recital, when the performance finished unless it is recorded and repetitively sold, it has zero value. When one entered the performance, the value was the price of admission. It was an experience, now a memory.
Google seems to be reaching, the searches seem to be less and less useful, more about add revenue than helpful.
Exxon is declining, unable to both pay dividends and capital costs, borrows for one or the other, Exxon is real, Google and its likes sit on top of Exxon. It is almost like monopoly where the hotels are not real, no one can live in them, small simulacrums.
At YouTube it seems people are putting in a great many hours editing, some sites representing business seem to do more YouTube than actual business processes. Farming videos seem to feature good looking wives and girlfriends, sort of like Chorus Line, you can think about that one for a bit.
Great educations are almost free, MIT even has Shakespeare. Imagine Shakespeare through the eyes of an engineer, Romeo and Juliet anyone? A good line, “I love your harmonics.” Actually, it’s Merchant of Venice, I looked. Many of MIT’s lectures are more than five years old, math or Shakespeare doesn’t change much over time.
Politicians are playing games with COVID, when they look up perhaps much of their base will have evaporated, independent sites are coming on line, people walk away from the experts. This seems to be a time of great and fundamental change, anybody want to buy a slightly used 777? It is tangible.
Dennis L.
Hi Dennis. One suggestion is that you’re using too much laughing gas. But I really want to tell you frickin hilarious I found this on rereading it, this time aloud to someone else. It was good to laugh that much.
Laughing quietly, trying to find a way forward.
Dennis L.
Oh, come on Dennis, all value in life is intangible. It’s not the food itself that makes you have the feeling of tastiness, being full and content.
It’s all a hallucination in the neural circuitry.
Unless you are like me and enjoy finely crafted technological artefacts.
Why is your ‘enjoyment’ not also an ‘hallucination in the neural circuitry’? It is still a subjective response of the brain.
Not quite, it is the inverse “problem” I am impressed of.
Technology and art is working in the opposite direction. It is the craft of expressing those hallucinations as something animate that exist in objective reality, as opposed to nature that does that by default.
It is why finely operating machinery (and music) is mesmerizing. As in “who figured out this contraption”, I want this person to teach me.
Ah, creativity. I do approve.
The Roland TB 303 bass synth, behind acid, is available again after 30 years as the Roland TB-03 Boutique Bass Line Synthesizer. Amazon UK has them reduced at the moment and I am tempted to get one to play with. Perhaps my christmas present to myself. Then one just needs the Roland TR 808 or 909 drum box for the classic acid kit.
Of course, you can always download for free the Ableton music production software that everyone uses these days, and all of its add ons here: https://rutracker.net/forum/index.php It simulates all the old kits anyway and everything else. Google chrome translates the torrent page from Russian. The software is obviously in English.
If I were just a bit younger then I would invest time learning ableton; I am very happy listening to what the adepts do with it – techno, trance, ambient, house etc. Everyone generally uses ableton these days for music production.
Yeah, creativity. The art of turning hallucinations into contraptions in objective reality. Life without tech and music would be an unbearable suck.
I got inspired of the retro gear restoration vids on YT, went ahead and restored a pair of 70’s Sonab OA-14 floor-standers with modern drivers and crossovers some months ago.
Why not make a playlist on YT Music and link it in?
I have shit music taste and zero talent for it. You do the music, and I the listening.
🤘😬🤘
“The S&P 500, or just the S&P, is a stock market index that measures the stock performance of 500 large companies listed on stock exchanges in the United States. It is one of the most commonly followed equity indices, and many consider it to be one of the best representations of the U.S. stock market.”
90% is an amazing number.
though there are two sides to the metaphorical coin.
OFW is intangible, but it has great value to me. Situated on “the internet”, so then the internet has great value to me. Here can be found (almost) the entire history of music to listen to, stuff to read etc.
Intangible might equal non-essential, but the assets of the S&P 500 could be a representation of how much value the population places on these intangibles.
To the plus side, the valuation of the S&P 500 also shows how much excess wealth there is in the world, above the wealth needed to provide essentials. Perhaps 80% of its assets could be eliminated, and (perhaps!) the real economy of essential goods and services could continue.
But yes, the money poured into it in recent years suggests that tangible assets are becoming less and less profitable investments.
david,
Stocks, RE are priced on the margin, it is not the real value of the asset. Things go up and things go down, throw in leverage and things go down faster than they go up, value of organization can decrease very rapidly.
Dennis l.
yes, priced on the margin.
so TPTB can easily keep stocks elevated from here until The Collapse.
though RE will be dropping like a rock in 2021.
david,
Respectfully disagree in nominal terms, dollar/currencies are going down, stocks not so much up, best horse in the glue factory.
Warren is purchasing his own stock, means no growth opportunities, converting cash to what he has, increasing underlying value of stock.
RE will hold, for most people it is the best option, 30 year money, fixed, very low interest, no risks to purchaser. Subtract rent from payments, everyone rents a roof one way or another, what is left is the risk, basically nothing.
Dennis L.
RE is all cool and that, until the population starts to drop off.
Then the scenario becomes like that in Japan, with houses in the countryside being given away.
RE “investment” only works when there is population growth, which is the root cause of the predicament to begin with.
As the WEF / WB / IMF promo video showed about their projections for ~2030, the world of tomorrow will NOT be about owning anything but instead renting everything. Now, guess who is going to work merrily for being even eligible for the rented place and who is going to collect the funds and keep the sheep on the tight leash?
So, in order to bring about this situation (hyper consolidation) they have to smash the RE valuations very hard, so even the middle classes in desperation drop out from direct ownership and then some tiny minority “buys” it all basically for pennies.
david,
I suspect the powers that be are those who own significant shares of high valued stocks, they can and do sell the margin, retain control, influence nations. A politician making less than $200K is an easy target. Politicians in the scheme of things come very cheap.
If I may observe, too many here are letting their moral sensibilities interfere with understanding how things work. We can’t influence, we cannot predict, we can only ride the wave. It is maddening,it is what is.
Dennis L.
“Because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren’t looking for anything logical, like money. They can’t be bought, bullied, reasoned or negotiated with.”
— Alfred Pennyworth
Yes, Alfred, they don’t care about your delusions, petty greed and rather have the world burn than you having your way.
And I am all smiles.
david,
It depends on when one sells, no more no less. Looking at one’s 401K is looking to the future, life is now, it is all a guess.
Dennis L.
A few days ago, someone was talking about the value of an asset being the embedded value of the energy involved in making it. This might make sense for tangible asset, such as a factory, or a car, or a fairly new house.
When the asset is shares of stock, this doesn’t really hold. It is more like the expected value of its future earnings, given the company’s tangible asset and its expected resources and customers in the future. As interest rates get lower and lower, and more debt is added, I don’t think this really works either, though. It seems more like a reflection of bidding up what is available to buy, hoping for a greater fool later.
Gail,
The value of an asset is what one sells it for less transaction/taxes, no more, no less. We are too small to effect control, we surf the margin.
Dennis L.
The value of an asset can suddenly change to zero, if the rules change. For example, if social distancing requires a restaurant to operate at 25% capacity and other COVID changes keeps worker away at breakfast and lunch times, a restaurant may suddenly have a value of zero.
Bonds are assets to those who hold them. If they stop paying interest and the business ceases operating, their value becomes zero.
A mailing list of potential customers can have value, until it suddenly doesn’t.
Tech companies have their capital in their IP, means of production and workers. It’s a living thing accumulating knowledge.
Now, would you prefer to put your money on stagnation or evolution? The choice is yours.
Now the trick with the tech stocks, is which one to buy. Gotta know where the industry and IC is heading.
It’s pure and simple envy from the old money watching smart whippersnappers making a fortune in no time. Oh, how they despise them, their generations of despotism, crimes against mankind, all becoming dust in the wind.
Hey, here’s an idea, lets form a world guvmint so that we can keep our hard “earned” dole, by buying a few halfwit winers and diners, dope and prostitutes a chair in the back seat row of the “international community”.
Re: Welsh independence
A new YouGov poll just out finds that support among the Welsh for independence has risen steadily to a third – up 10 points on the year.
Attitudes to UK have changed drastically over the last five years; half of English voters now support English independence, a clear majority of Scots want their independence, and now Wales begins to form it own sentiment in that regard; NI is demographically maybe a decade away from a clear republican majority and a border poll is only a matter of time.
UK has seen a fall in energy consumption per capita in recent decades and, as Gail explains in her article, dissipative structures tend to ‘find ways’ to do what they ‘want’ to do according to physics and to devolve to smaller, less centralised, optimal structures as dissipation declines.
> 10% increase in support for Welsh independence in a year, YouGov poll finds
Support for Welsh independence has jumped 10% in just a year, a new poll by YouGov suggests.
The latest poll puts support for independence at 33%, compared to 22% in early December 2019.
YesCymru, who commissioned the poll, said it showed support for independence was “the strongest it’s ever been”.
Independence polls over the last year have shown a steady increase, they say. All figures are with ‘don’t know’ removed:
YouGov /YesCymru: 11 – 16 November (2020) – 33%
YouGov /ITV Cymru Wales & Cardiff U: October 26 – 29 (2020) – 32%
YouGov /ITV Cymru Wales & Cardiff U: August 28 – September 4 (2020) – 32%
YouGov /YesCymru: 24 – 27 August (2020) – 32%
YouGov /ITV Cymru Wales & Cardiff U: 29 May – 1 June (2020) – 32%
YouGov /ITV Cymru Wales & Cardiff U: 20 – 23 Jan (2020) – 27%
YouGov /ITV Cymru Wales & Cardiff U: December 6-9 (2019) – 22%
‘Serious’
YesCymru Chair, Sion Jobbins, said that the status quo was now no longer an option.
“Support for independence is the strongest it’s ever been, with 33% of the people of Wales now saying that they would vote for Welsh independence if a referendum was held tomorrow,” he said.
“That’s a six point increase from January, and a massive 11 point increase since December last year.
“It’s very clear that more and more people are coming to the conclusion that Westminster doesn’t work for Wales. We’ve seen this not only with the poll results, but with a huge surge in YesCymru membership, recently hitting 15,000 paid up members, where we were at around 2,500 in January. That’s more members than nearly every political party in Wales.
“In light of Boris Johnson’s comments on devolution being ‘a disaster’, and our recent poll that showed 59% would vote for devo-max in a referendum – a move that stops just short of independence – it really is time for the Welsh Government to get serious about what it wants to happen, and make its constitutional position clear. The status quo just isn’t an option anymore….
https://www.nation.cymru/news/10-increase-for-welsh-independence-support-in-a-year-yougov-poll-finds/
YouGov earlier revealed recent polling that indicates that 59% of the Welsh support ‘devo max’, a maximum devolution that would claim tax and spending powers for the Welsh parliament. Support rises to over 80% of young adults; only those over 65 do not support it. The momentum is growing toward an independent Wales.
> 59% would support ‘devo max’ for Wales in a referendum, new YouGov poll shows
A new YouGov poll has shown that 59% of respondents who had a view said they would support ‘devo-max’ for Wales in a referendum.
The so-called devo-max option would see powers transferred from Westminster to the Welsh Parliament in Cardiff, including the right to control taxation and welfare in a move that stops just short of independence.
The question asked was: “If there was a referendum tomorrow on the transferring of more powers to the Senedd (Welsh Parliament), including control of tax and welfare, but excluding defence and foreign affairs, how would you vote? Should more powers be transferred to the Senedd (Welsh Parliament)?”
The poll was carried out by YouGov on behalf of YesCymru, the cross-party campaign for Welsh independence.
…. ‘Surge’
There was support for increasing the powers of the Senedd through devo-max in all regions of Wales, with 64% of respondents who had a view in Cardiff and south central Wales backing the move, the highest level of support in the country.
There was also large support for devo-max from younger respondents with 82% of respondents aged 18-24 who had a view saying they would vote for Wales to have more powers.
The votes by age group were:
18-24 – 82% yes
25-49 – 73% yes
50-64 – 51% yes
65+ – 43% yes
Sion Jobbins said that the best way to protect the people of Wales was for Wales to take control of its own affairs by becoming an independent country.
“We would then be in the same position as the Irish Republic, where Westminster can’t just get rid of the Irish parliament on a whim,” he said.
“That is not an option on the table at the moment, but it can be if we make it an issue in the May Senedd elections….
https://nation.cymru/news/59-would-support-devo-max-for-wales-in-a-referendum-new-yougov-poll-shows/
I have scanned this post only, but it seems to be a meme.
Perhaps the issue is more one of trust, politicians removed from the local lose relevance once they can no longer bring back more money than they take from a community.
There has been incredible effort to produce conformity, now with on line learning for almost all ages, working from home, people are more or less forming their own local groups. The meme of universalism isn’t selling, somethings perhaps do not scale well and government may be one of them.
Dennis L.
I fully support the above ideas, but on one condition: All tax money raised in Scotland or Wales will be spent in Scotland or Wales. All tax money spent in Scotland or Wales will be raised in Scotland or Wales. Time for the little piggies to grow up and stop sucking of England’s teat.
Scotland, Wales, Greece, and New Zealand could join together as the OPEC of sheep-shagging.
A cartel to be feared. 😂
Yes, they would undercut the competition by being cheap er. 🤦♂️
Oh dear, I am going to have to revise my verdict that Harry is the fairest of them all and that he spends half the day cringing, after his engagement with that. Rather I will be cringing for him, which hardly counts.
These times call for a little ribald levity, surely? I’ve been known to frequent the odd pub, too.
Possibly relevant joke: “What do you call a New Zealander with a sheep under one arm and a goat under the other?” Bisexual!
R, that is on the whole a more intelligent response than the usual. The usual ‘herd’ response seems to be to take the message of independence as ‘we don’t like you’ and to respond with ‘we don’t like you either. You are against the herd and the herd is against you.’ There certainly are primal ‘herd’ dynamics in play, even with intelligent, educated persons.
Also they generally seem to confuse the state with the ‘herd’, whereas the British state obviously has its own agenda, capital accumulation, and could not care less about the particular ‘herd’. If it is a ‘herd’ then it is ‘blinkered herd’ that cannot see the state for what it is. The state is an ‘idol’ to the ‘herd’ and its ruin.
I have no desire let alone pretence to change that situation. Peoples make their own choices and their own consequences. Same ways really, if Scotland and Wales want to reform their own ‘herds’, their own peoples, then good luck to them. The British state is pointless and frankly boring, and I certainly do not consider myself to be one of its ‘herd’. It is just another ‘idol’.
“I against my brother, my brothers and I against my cousins,
then my cousins and I against strangers.”
~ Bedouin Proverb
Bedouin are traditional, nomadic, desert tribal people, a very different kettle of fish to the modern ‘national’ state. The capitalist state is not the people.
Around half of marriages in Europe end in divorce (65% in Portugal); the family stability is nothing like the Bedouin let alone tribal stability.
The attachment of some on here to the British state is just bizarre. Presumably feudalism has bred them to ‘fealty’. It is a distinct ‘virtue’, not to be confused with Bedouin ‘kinship’.
Mirror,
Kinship is a rather fluid concept.
Personally, I feel a closer kinship with other engineers in Asia, than with my genetically closer brethren back home.
Yes, the idol and herd is dead. Long live the idol and herd.
“At the narrow passage there is neither brother nor friend”
K, yes you have a class-based, artisan identification, virtually petit bourgeois. It is not ‘kinship’ a la Bedouin.
Ideology and identification generally reflect the economic structure of society and often one’s place or desired place within it.
Your ‘politics’ are quite cool. I tend to favour direct democracy, but of course it depends what people vote for and whether I like them in the first place, which is not a given. Why should I care whether certain other people get what they want, or even what they ‘need’?
Anyway, my point was that bourgeois state ‘nationalism’ is not the same thing as ‘ethno-nationalism’ and we should not allow them to be conflated. That illusion is passed its sell-by, certainly in UK.
The TP is practically running on the fumes of the spent far right in UK. The pretence that the state idol is in any way identifiable with the ethnic ‘herd’ needs to end.
State ‘nationalism’ is the ‘fealty’ of peasants to their lords and nothing to do with Bedouin. The ‘herd’ was bred to it under feudalism for 1000 years and feudal ‘virtues’ remain in their souls.
‘Herds’ and their ‘idols’ no longer mean anything to me. I have no ‘politics’ as such. I do not identify with any state, any herd or any class. Zarathustra has reclaimed his sovereignty from the herds and their idols.
Bedouin boys go techno in NYC.
They have some serious progressive* vibes going on.
* a track structure of gradually developing beats and layers of instrumentation, one of the dominant edm approaches.
Mirror, thanks for the acknowledgement.
I, too, generally like people who can give me new perspectives and rubbish my flawed analysis. The ‘herd’ is still indeed there, as is the ‘idol’. In my analysis, the herd is reduced to the skilled artisanry (netizen tech-bourgeoisie), the artist-netizen and the idol – Gaia, the enabling technology and science.
Then, there is of course the matter of what I need might not be what I desire, on the contrary they might be diametrically opposed in nature.
Yes to direct democracy in the sense of evaluating the desired outcomes on supercompute/AI to determine if the outcome is beneficial for the biological ecosystem and it’s electronic/electrical/mechanical evolutionary continuation instead of the nauseating chauvinist humanism.
Manipulating the highly skilled artisanry and TPTB/owners/influencers with the means of presenting the outcomes as subtle hints is a slick policy projection vector, while keeping the smoke and mirrors thick and shiny. Make the ideologs and the corrupt as strung out as possible.
It is much more effective use of resources than instigating a silly “technocrat” police-state with scoring systems. After all, morality is innate in all properly functioning mammals.
Then it is of course a matter of reconfiguring the IC topology for better resilience against the inevitability of resource depletion and natural catastrophe while keeping the process-progress open-ended in its evolutionary underpinnings.
Whatever it takes.
It turns out that Boris’ announced ‘military spending’ is actually aimed at boosting support for UK in Belfast and Glasgow. Having failed to economically develop the regions for generations, he now intends to pay them to ‘dig holes’ paid for by the government. But not just any holes but ones with military union jacks waving in them. He wants them to relive the 19 c. as ship builders.
‘That should keep them happy and patriotic. Here, have a job and a flag to wave.’
Frankly the idea that Belfast and Glasgow of all places are going to swing back to UK is laughable. Boris thinks that they can be manipulated back into his ‘herd’ with a job building war ships for his state. It is akin to the model busses that he likes to make in his spare time with smiling passengers waving at him. He is frankly a child and a clown, basically an imbecile.
> Boris Johnson: £16.5bn boost to military spending will restore UK as ‘foremost naval power in Europe’
…. Warships and combat vehicles could be equipped with “inexhaustible” lasers to take on opposing forces, the PM suggested, with no prospect of them running out of ammunition.
…. The PM highlighted the boost the extra funding would give to the Navy and shipbuilding, telling MPs: “We’re going to use our extra defence spending to restore Britain’s position as the foremost naval power in Europe.
“This will spur a renaissance of British shipbuilding across the UK; in Glasgow and South Belfast, Appledore and Birkenhead.
“Guaranteed jobs and illuminating the benefits of the Union in the white light of the arc-welders’ torch. If there is one policy which strengthens the UK in every possible sense,” he insisted, “it is building more ships for the Royal Navy.”
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/18884947.boris-johnson-16-5bn-boost-military-spending-will-restore-uk-foremost-naval-power-europe/
Having failed to economically develop the regions for generations, he now intends to pay them to ‘dig holes’ paid for by the government.
Ha Boris really been failing for generations? I know it can sometimes seem that way, but in fact he’s only been failing in politics since 2007.
LOL!
T, it was well lazy to not start with ‘TP, LP and the British state generally having failed,’ but I guess that you knew that was implied. Tut tut, a well lazy sentence – and the subjunctive grammar is Latin rather than English. Tut tut lol
The Independent (Lib Dem unionist paper) has picked up on the ulterior motives and clownishness of Boris’ defence spending announcement.
> Boris Johnson’s defence statement: what he said – and what he really meant
…. What he said: Our warships and combat vehicles will carry “directed energy weapons”, destroying targets with inexhaustible lasers and for them the phrase “out of ammunition” will become redundant.
What he meant: Whizzo. Just like a computer game.
What he said: We shall use our extra defence spending to restore Britain’s position as the foremost naval power in Europe.
What he meant: I ignored Rishi asking awkward questions about why we need two aircraft carriers.
What he said: This will spur a renaissance of British shipbuilding across the UK – in Glasgow and Rosyth, Belfast, Appledore and Birkenhead – guaranteeing jobs and illuminating the benefits of the Union in the white light of the arc-welder’s torch.
What he meant: We must build ships we don’t need because the Scottish people show alarming signs of supporting independence.
What he said: Our plans will safeguard hundreds of thousands of jobs in the defence industry.
What he meant: Our defence policy is dictated by fear of unemployment and Scottish separatism.
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/boris-johnson-defence-statement-spending-b1745019.html
Mirror on the wall, you are ‘Oh Dear’ and I claim my $1,000.
Yes, “Mirror on the wall” is formerly “Oh dear.”
When he first changed, he said, “I changed my handle,” but he didn’t say from what.
E, you truly are the quickest of the quick, a proper Robert Munden and you fully deserve your thousand bucks. Have a glass on me.
Hypersonic missiles are going to change everything, are changing everything. That aircraft carrier is as good as gone if you put it into theater. Turkeys injection of tech into recent conflicts gives us a glimpse of modern conflict.
Those with the best missles own the air.
Those with the best electronic warfare own the drones.
Those with the best drones own the (tanks) ground.
The model is still valid. Own the air. If you own the air you own the ground. If you have tanks. The means to that models implementation have totally changed/are changing IMO.
Directed energy weapons will be interesting. A gunner will get a lot more effective without any drop, windage or projectile travel time. They remain line of sight. They may equalize hypersonic missiles somewhat with a good automated targeting system. Maybe. Were talking millisecond windows at mach 5. Human targeting may not be fast enough for most applications in a modern battlefield.
The paradigm has been high value high tech in concentrated space will prevail. I see that changing. 20 missile frigates are better than a carrier. Much better. Kill ratios are going to get very high with hypersonic missiles. Eggs in one basket is a ratio for failure.
Understand we are talking both surface to surface and surface to air for hypersonic missile applications. If your opponent has capable surface to air hypersonics the effectiveness of current generation cruise missiles becomes a real question.
Like it or not the ante to really be in the game is lower much lower. Nuclear weapons have to be delivered. Nuclear weapons have less value with more tech. Mid tier powers will be in the game very soon in a serious way. bottom tier to follow. Just as technology has become ubiquitous in our personal lives it becomes ubiquitous in the worlds militarys. You just cant count on owning one ring that rules them all. Theres too much out there. If its all pretty good… And thats not even considering the xprojects in the closets.
As flight times are reduced radically response times cant keep up. Mutally Assured Destruction one of mankinds stupidest concepts comes into question. Lets point incredible technologically advanced weapons systems at each other and be ready to launch at any second. Can MAD really be in effect if flight time is smaller than response time? No.
As response times become totally inadequate handing off launch to automated systems is inevitable if the MAD paradigm is to be sustained.
If you view vulnerability as unacceptable first strike becomes more of a option as flight time gets radically shorter. Your ability to retaliate becomes much less. Your chances of a devastating blow get much higher.
Economically what are the implications of trillions of dollars of hardware going obsolete? Could this energy investment be regarded as collateral and if so for what?
What the price is? Write off the obsolete gear, make more friends, as fast as possible.
Then agree on the terms of engagement, i.e., for example, make trade deals while tearing up the bretton woods shenanigans.
Put hefty gear on the moon. It would take days to get a payload over there and kill off those bases. MAD would be assured with attacks launced from bases there.
Besides, it would serve as a nice low-gravity outpost for targeting extinction-level space rock.
Perhaps there is some mining opportunities there as well.
Something like that.
G, thanks for that insight.
The world seems to be headed to an even more dangerous place.
Humanity has not even come close to the attaining the conditions of universal peace. ‘Civilisation’ is still pretty much conducted on the basis of ‘grab what you can’.
The ‘first strike’ scenario sounds ‘realistic’ if there is no longer the deterrent of response due to reaction times. The impetus is rather to shoot first. ‘He who shoots first shoots last. He who does not shoot is liable to get shot.’
Sadly that may be the only ‘logic’ left. Like the Highlander movies – ‘There can be only one.’ Perhaps the mutual reliance of the global economy deter that – maybe not.
“Like the Highlander movies – ‘There can be only one.’”
I’m thinking two, the Machine and the ecosystem.
The humanoid shenanigans seem a bit mixed up now. Like a dog turd with some smarties sprinkled on top. It’s hard to avoid the retch when isolating the sweet bits.
Cheer up, bro.
Humanoid!
Mirror,
Thanks. ❤
Customs broker email
“Massive Congestion in Transpacific Shipping
November 17, 2020
Importers have noticed that the past four months have seen increasing amounts of congestion in Transpacific ocean freight. I want to emphasize to importers that we are seeing unprecedented congestion in ALL phases of the supply chain.
Origin
Almost all origin points in Asia are now struggling with extreme equipment shortage (aka: lack of empty containers). Carriers are struggling to bring empty containers back from the United States to Asia to meet the demand for equipment.
Demand for space is at an all time high. Despite the fact that carrier’s have increased capacity 20% year-on year, the steamship lines cannot keep up with the huge increase in demand. Containers are rolling over from one vessel to the next at extremely high frequency.
We are noticing that a large percentage of vessels departures are delayed. I am guessing this is a result of the entire supply chain being bogged down. As vessels are delayed at the destination, their return to Asia is also being delayed.
Ocean Transit
On the water transit time from Asia to the U.S. is also increasing rapidly. This is primarily due to port delays. Most vessels arriving at U.S. West Coast typically call Los Angeles/Long Beach first. We are seeing vessels anchor outside the port for many days, sometimes even a week, before being worked on. This in turn is delaying vessel transit to other West Coast ports.
Destination
I want to call out the congestion inside the Los Angeles / Long Beach terminals in particular. Truckers have been warning us about increased congestion for months. However the situation is now reaching full blown crisis proportions. The problem isn’t simply a lack of chassis. There is an extreme shortage of available drivers to handle all the containers at the port. Most drayage companies are booked two weeks out or are simply refusing to accept new container deliveries. Importers need to be prepared for demurrage, extra handling fees, and delays in delivery.
Containers moving via rail through Vancouver / Prince Rupert have also experienced extreme delays at the port of discharge. WE have seen vessel wait time extend beyond 10 days on a regular basis.
Most importantly, I want to emphasize that I don’t see the situation improving in the coming months. As we continue to see massive demand for space and equipment departing from Asia, we believe this crisis will continue in the coming months. We are staring at the face of the storm.”
“Staring at the face of the storm”? So negative. LOL.
I found an article about the situation, published on November 9, 2020:
Container shortages on the New Silk Road, and possible solutions
China no longer takes most recycling. The lack of recycling (which could pay for the return freight cost) would seem like it could be part of the problem.
I also found a Nov. 15, 2020, WSJ article saying, U.S. Exporters Coming Up Empty in Scramble for Outbound Containers
Turbulence!
Good point!
A new strategy for coronavirus management in Slovakia: the division of the country into 36 regions, so that the measures can be scaled up and down according to the development in such smaller units and the economy in healthy units is not negatively affected.
https://slovensko.hnonline.sk/2250923-novy-plan-boja-proti-korone-deli-slovensko-na-36-regionov
https://cloudia.hnonline.sk/rxn/368e2a42-1eb0-4ba9-9b7d-c55e1c7e6f1c
This is a more local approach.
Also frequent testing of the whole population.
Cheaper than a US like case load.
Slovakia seems to be doing pretty well with its testing approach. This is a chart of its 7-day average new COVID cases. They are falling quite a bit faster than those of the EU in total.
https://ourfiniteworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Slovakia-EU-US-new-COVID-cases-Nov-19-1024×598.png
Slovakia’s rate of deaths seems to be stabilizing, if not falling:
https://ourfiniteworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Slovakia-EU-US-new-deaths-Nov.-19-1024×595.png
The one month ratio of deaths to cases is way down, in the range of 1%, everywhere. Part of this is more complete testing. Part of this is real improvements in outcomes of cases. Part of this is a different patient load mix. Today’s patient load includes a lot of young people who don’t really care whether they have COVID-19 or not.
https://ourfiniteworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Slovakia-EU-US-Case-Fatality-Rate-Nov.-19-1024×595.png
Slovakia used a more targeted approach early on. It seemed to be helpful then as well, especially if it allowed more people to keep their jobs and schools to remain open.
https://spectator.sme.sk/c/22538863/news-digest-things-will-get-worse-if-we-do-nothing-says-health-minister.html
On the question of the CIA servers seized in Europe Sidney Powell said yes they were seized but she did not know if it was by the good guys or the bad guys.
good guys = perhaps military?
bad guys = CIA FBI?
oh should we Americans have full trust that these agencies are working to give the full truth to the American people?
MaxKeiser is going mental as Citibank calls Bitcoin at $312K next year..
If you thought this world is getting bonkers, we are just warming up..
They explained it as interested ~poor people are already maxed out and now institutional investors are finally jumping in – who for whatever reason don’t want to join (fully) these other upcoming e-coins / digital money from major global CBs.
Meanwhile Earth supposedly dodged another close proximity flyby of potentially disastrous asteroid.
Why do you think we need some hefty gear on the moon no matter the cost?
Imagine one of those extinction-level space rock plunging down in the ocean.
😳
That would be all she wrote for this time. And then some time.
The science community have been yapping about this for years, instead we have perpetual wars to keep the consumerism bonanza going and dumb ass drama of the entitled sanctimonious hypocrite IC princesses.
“Ok, enough, release the kraken” entered into realpolitik.
Those of you unfamiliar with the Kraken might like to watch “The Deep”, season 2 episode 13. Or read Tennyson’s poem.
Hmm, an asteroid, any useable metals on it?
Dennis L.
whoa dude! let’s get the tech moving.
NASA etc c’mon man!
our top scientists should be working to make one of those close calls turn into a direct hit on Earth.
maybe hitting Siberia, I don’t know, but then maybe Russia would “own” the metals.
perhaps the US Canada border near Montana?
both countries would benefit.
let’s do this!
Hopefully loads of gold and uranium.
Nukes & “riches”.
Drill baby, drill. Space ore for the win.
🤘😬🤘
Re; Boris
Hmmm, it is beginning to feel like ‘we’ elected an imbecile as PM. He confided that he always wanted to be ‘world king’ as a child. And his favourite pastime these days is to make model busses with passengers waving at him out of the windows. Sad to say, but we may be dealing with a man with the mental age of a child here and with the political ‘strategy’ to match it.
> Experts blow up Boris’s hydrogen pipe dream: PM’s plan to replace gas boilers by 2023 is ‘impossible’ because only TWO hydrogen prototypes exist, a fifth of gas network will need to be relaid and EVERY engineer retrained
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8966927/PMs-plan-replace-gas-boilers-2023-impossible.html
> Boris Johnson vows to make UK the ‘foremost naval power in Europe’ with £24bn MOD budget boost as No10 -Defence Secretary admits he ‘doesn’t know’ where money is coming
The Prime Minister said the UK must not ‘curl up in our island’ and leave the task of tackling terrorism and facing down global threats to its allies.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8966059/Boris-Johnson-vows-make-UK-foremost-naval-power-Europe.html
&c.
You are welcome to spend your money on global fairy tale hunt for terrorists. The UK military is modest to put it kindly.
Or they could sit back and let the terrorists come to them.
The terrorists have already come to them, in vast numbers. And the UK’s traitorous judges are refusing to allow them to be deported. Just two days ago our top legal committee advocated making “islamophobia” a hate crime. So if you object to your underage daughter being gang raped, you become a hate criminal.
After listening to the news conference by the president’s lawyers I would say I can see old white Joe being snapped in two by the beaks of the Kraken. They re-framed the issue not as small potatoes Trump versus Biden but as war against America and subversion of the constitution. Holy cow this is at the stage of arrest, trials and if found guilty hanging. Maybe even Biden. Not to mention war against Venezuela, Cuba, and China. They have framed it as an existential issue for the United States.
https://sputniknews.com/us/202011191081213573-trumps-lawyers-lay-out-strategy-to-challenge-vote-results-in-key-states/
no it can not be found using google
These stale Calif comedians on major TV ch / ytube have ~1 000 000 000 x higher ratings than Rudi’s backroom press conference on some probable fraud. Btw he sweated some dark glue from the head down, makeup or hair coloring.. ?
Truly bizarre occupants of this planet: all parties and participants.
Channels like CNN, MSNBC, and Fox only have a couple million viewers apiece.
Why would he use hair dye? He’s bald. It’s probably air pollution that’s gotten into his pores.
Thanks for the link. I listened to part of it. Very interesting!
I think Trump should never concede. One reason is the vaccination program that could do damage to the entire human species. Biden is for it, and Trump is against. We might need to divide up the country into small enclaves supporting one side or the other. Doing that at the national scale is implausible. The economic system can no longer support top down centralized governance. The vaccination segregation issue gives society the impetus to arrange its affairs in smaller, networked units. Leaving it up to the central system to work out creates too much tension, and working in a smaller scale with more local effort and autonomy might reduce the tension and act like a safety valve.
This just gets buried under all the hype and hysteria put out by the MSM. His video will probably be taken down by You Tube for violating community standards.
Meanwhile where I am the hysteria is ramping up again. A supposed resurgence in cases has triggered the governor to require everyone from out of state to quarantine for 14 days (or for 7 days and then test negative). Masks are required everywhere, most restaurants closed, no small social gatherings allowed, Thanksgiving cancelled. And this is a state that depends on winter tourists. How much longer the economy can remain on life support is unknown.
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/top-pathologist-claims-covid-19-greatest-hoax-ever-perpetrated-unsuspecting-public
This is the audio tape from the zerohedge link, by the top pathologist from Alberta.
https://youtu.be/uEo3rnU12jw
He says that masks and social distancing basically don’t work because the virus spreads as an aerosol. He advocates 3,000 to 5,000 units of vitamin D per day. I think that this was for people already with symptoms or at high risk, but I might be wrong. He feels the hysteria about this is wrong. Only one in 300,000 below the age of 65 will dies of COVID. The hysteria about the illness is absurd. Everything should be open.
Good man!
Hint:
He is from Alberta, not BC.
If you don’t understand, you need to pay close attention.
completely true this is about foreign powers versus the free peoples of the world
Albert is an oil producing province. The people there tend to think like those in the US in oil and grain producing areas. In the US, these people are Republicans. They don’t really care about masks or social distancing. This pathologist sounds like his ideas are similar.
Meanwhile in Norway:
Even our state TV and radio station is reporting on the lack of proof that face masks protect against viruses but our government still recommend them (in effect make you the problem if you don’t wear one) …
On the precautionary side, even the cheap (and faulty ones) lessen the incoming load if you are in close contact with someone spreading it wildly (shouting, coughing, non vented air in rooms, ..). That’s important for the immune system dealing with high or lower load impact..
If you have the funds ready, the slightly higher level (also disposable grade) called respirator face mask usually made from unwoven fabric (e.g. politicians or doctors wearing it) is good for confined air or train, ambulance, travel and closer contract with others etc.
Given the pop density and spatial distribution I would not worry about viruses (in combo w. high load) in .no, so rather focus on eating the oily fish and fruits daily .. and you are all set. Most people on the planet can’t have it or afford it, so you have all the advantages ready made for you, enjoy.
This has been my recipe as well. Some piece of fruit and some fish like mackerel or herring. Cod liver oil as well. Basically no sun exposure up here from november through february. But also lots of responsible drinking and tobacco, which helps all year round!
+ the usual stuff for maintaining a good health.
Mainly plant based diet (not dieting) and regular exercise (walk, cycling).
If there is plenty of people/relatives/children visiting your house, get a goddamn air purifier with a HEPA 13/14 filter and sufficient high CFM rating to cover your house, place it close to the outer door. If you can afford, buy one for each room.
Put some diluted PVP-I in an old soap bottle and ask them to rub their hands in it after washing them, and then rubbing some in the nostrils.
PVP-I gargle product also reduces the viral load originating from the mouth. Ask them to rinse their mouths with it.
If they sneer, tell them; your house, your rules. If it does not suit their pretentios and conformist tastes: GTFO.
I found Fast Eddy
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EnIqmJ_XIAIfYG-?format=jpg&name=900×900
Fast Eddy! Oh My, what a blast from our past!
Wonder if he’s commenting here under a new alias that is more tame? Hope he and his Mrs. are enjoying the twilight of BAU and checking off the Bucket List.
I don’t blame him if he is no😈longer on these forums.
Time is short for us all and keeping track of it all with Harry McGibbs posts are head spinning. Remarkable, the PTB are able to hold it all together for this long…
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ffxCBnrATe8
But for how much longer?
When “FE” posts under a alias you know its him in 5 words.
Maybe. Every prediction has come to naught so far. I’m starting to doubt in our ability to make correct predictions.
T-cells do protect us from Sars-cov-2.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EnH6qYDXEAoecRE?format=jpg&name=small
So, perhaps T-cell memory of a person having a cold can also protect against COVID-19.
The elites say that in 2030 we will own nothing and be happy.
Sure…dead and happy…
If we make it to 2030 I think we will safely be able to say that the journey getting there was an interesting one.
Here in the UK we’ll be having rolling brown-outs and queueing for charging stations by then, I would guess, as well as dealing with some pretty disastrous social unrest.
As difficult as 2020 has been, and as rough as the years since 2008 have been, the 2020s are looking likely to be a whole lot worse. Though still likely to be better than what follows.
“The coronavirus crisis pushed global debt levels to a new high of over $272 trillion in the third quarter, the Institute for International Finance said, as it warned of the “attack of the debt tsunami.”
“The institute said global debt would break new records in the coming months to reach $277 trillion by the end of the year. This would represent a debt-to-GDP ratio of 365%.”
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/19/coronavirus-drives-global-debt-to-a-new-record-high.html
“IMF’s Georgieva: Global economic recovery may be losing momentum, risks are very high.”
https://www.forexlive.com/news/!/imfs-georgieva-global-economic-recovery-may-be-losing-momentum-risks-are-very-high-20201119
365% ? Well, perhaps we will eventually hop across the 1000% as no biggie ..
I would be less confident about that if the wheels are coming off the “real” economy but we shall see.
According to the article:
How can countries keep this pace up? The problems are nowhere near settled. It seems doubtful that the advanced nations can go back to their previous GDP level, because of too many closed businesses and too much in the way of continued restrictions. Raising tax levels will make things worse. And energy prices are way too low for producers.
“Japan’s biggest labor union said COVID-19 won’t stop it demanding pay increases for its 7 million members, even after the worst year for corporate profits since the global financial crisis.
“Rikio Kozu, head of the Japanese Trade Union Confederation known as Rengo, indicated in an interview Tuesday he’ll push for a 4% wage increase, including base pay, even though rising waves of the coronavirus are darkening the outlook for employers.”
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/11/19/business/economy-business/union-wages-pandemic/
“General Motors Co has issued its strongest warning yet that persistent industrial unrest could drive it out of South Korea, just two years after it received a state-backed rescue package to stay…
“The strikes and other industrial action have cost the company 17,000 vehicles in lost production, a number that will hit 20,000 by the end of the week.”
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-gm-southkorea-labor-exclusive-idUKKBN27Y0NR
Everywhere, it is low wages of workers that attract employers, but become unmanageable for the workers themselves.
“As many as 10,000 people gathered in the government district of Berlin as lawmakers in the German Parliament voted to amend the country’s Infection Protection Act to clarify what kind of protective measures can be ordered by state governments.”
https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2020/11/18/200-arrested-as-German-police-break-up-protests-against-coronavirus-measures/5001605745300/
“Journalists, human rights groups protest new French security bill banning images of police…
“Macron’s centrist government has proposed a new “comprehensive security” law that would institute reforms such as giving more autonomy to local police — and potentially arming more of them — and expanding the use of surveillance drones in high-crime areas.”
https://www.france24.com/en/france/20201118-journalists-human-rights-groups-protest-new-french-security-bill-banning-images-of-police
I shouldn’t feel conflicted about this, but I do. The residents of “high crime” areas, and we all know who they are, take pictures of the police, use them to find out where the police live, and then plan revenge attacks on their families.
The French government, as usual, is attacking the effects of the problem rather than the cause. And of course “human rights groups” are, also as usual, defending the rights of the criminals, not the rights of the victims.
People don’t like more restrictions, at all!
“Italy’s government will seek parliamentary approval for 20 billion euros ($24 billion) of extra deficit on Thursday, according to people familiar with the matter.
“A cabinet meeting will sign off on the request, the people said asking not to be named discussing plans that will enable the virus-battered to further expand its public debt as soon as this year.”
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-11-18/italy-s-debt-will-grow-by-20-billion-euros-to-finance-covid-aid
“Italy plans to widen an existing guarantee scheme for bank loans in a move that will help the country’s lenders cope with any future defaults sparked by the pandemic, a draft of the 2021 budget showed.”
https://www.reuters.com/article/italy-banks-budget/italy-to-widen-state-guarantees-helping-banks-cope-with-defaults-draft-idUSL8N2I33OQ
“A lone protest by an Italian girl against the closure of her school because of coronavirus restrictions is spreading around the country.
“For the last few days, Anita Iacovelli has set up a small blue desk, a pink metal chair and her laptop outside the school she used to attend in Turin.”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/11/18/italian-girls-set-desks-chairs-outside-schools-protest-closures/
She’s the anti-Greta. But i suspect Anita will not be lucky enough to receive funding from George Soros, nor any support from MSM or the “international community”.
Debt and more debt, to fix a problem that existed even before COVID-19 came along.
“Hungary and Poland plunged the EU into political crisis on Wednesday by blocking a £1.65 trillion coronavirus rescue budget that they claimed ‘blackmailed countries into accepting migrants’.
“On Monday, the two countries blocked the 2021-2027 budget and the recovery plan, worth a combined 1.85 trillion euros (£1.65 trillion), because access to the funds would be conditional on respecting the rule of law.”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8962647/Hungary-Poland-plunge-EU-political-crisis-blocking-1-65trillion-covid-rescue-budget.html
“The European Commission issued on Wednesday a warning to Athens that the market support measures during the pandemic should not be excessive so that they do not jeopardize the sustainability of the public debt.”
https://www.ekathimerini.com/259321/article/ekathimerini/business/debt-sustainability-warning-from-brussels
“Europe’s leaders will demand today that the European Commission publish no-deal plans amid fears that Brexit negotiations are dragging on without businesses knowing what they need to prepare for in the worst scenario.
“Several European Union governments are growing frustrated that deadlines for trade, security and fishing talks are slipping, leaving little time to get ready if the negotiations fail to reach agreement.”
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/brexit-eu-leaders-press-for-own-no-deal-plans-lndvzpzft
The EU isn’t going to be popular, if there are many articles like these. Countries feel like they could do better on their own.
“EU warns Portugal to watch debt amid gloomy outlook:
““The forecasts estimate a high public debt and that is something that has to be taken care of”, Executive Vice President Valdis Dombrovskis told the media in Brussels on Wednesday.”
https://www.portugalresident.com/eu-warns-portugal-to-watch-debt-amid-gloomy-outlook/
Hungary has not forgotten the Battle of Mohacs. They will never agree to admit the barbarian invaders into their country. Good for them.
Even more impressive is that this generation of top politicians had been Soros-ed in by western NGOs two-three decades ago, but later they flipped on the prescribed increasingly insane agenda, thus disobeying the masters..
I agree.
My take is that politicians didn’t like nor did they fully understand what they had to do.
The core intelligence community must have known the game was up. I mean, those dudes and dudettes got state of the art tools for situational awareness, compute, twisting arms and breaking legs in IC.
Trying to sideline them might incur some weird behavior in the grid, random broken infrastructure, hacked networks and exposed profitable rackets for politicians and their money laundry shenanigans. Perhaps even off the shelf viruses ready to put into circulation.
My impression is that they aren’t keen on having some halfwit GND world guvmint “technocracy” when they have been running things behind the smoke and mirrors for at least a century.
Cant blame them.
Generally it is a bad idea to fsck around with people smarter than you. If they tell you to do X, it is surely for good reason.
Trying to run your own stunts will get you shut down in no time with plenty of hurt down the line.
“Rishi Sunak is preparing to publish what allies describe as a “scary” outlook for the UK economy in next week’s spending review, containing the largest downgrade in economic performance and the public finances since the second world war…
“…the UK economy will contract close to 11 per cent in 2020, the worst annual performance for more than 300 years.”
https://www.ft.com/content/2883c55f-e4e1-40c2-9075-62c96dd6ecd8
“Digital currencies could reduce risk in the financial system and aid monetary policy with interest rates close to rock bottom, Bank of England chief economist Andy Haldane has said.”
https://www.cityam.com/boes-andy-haldane-digital-currencies-could-cut-risk-and-boost-lending/
“Hospitality chiefs have issued a fresh plea to ministers to help ease the financial crisis facing the sector by forcing landlords to waive at least half the rent they were owed during operators’ enforced closure…
“In the letter to Alok Sharma and Robert Jenrick, Ms Nicholls calls for a series of rent-related measures to prevent “mass redundancies, business failures and permanent scarring of Britain’s high streets”.
https://news.sky.com/story/hospitality-chiefs-in-fresh-plea-to-ministers-to-tackle-rent-crisis-12135487
“One in seven UK companies fear they are at risk of collapse, ONS survey finds.
“Some 14% of British businesses said they have “low or no confidence” that they will survive the next 12 weeks.”
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-one-in-seven-uk-companies-at-risk-of-collapse-12136139
How will these companies repay their debt? What will happen to their workers?
So, how do the owners of the buildings that waive the rents pay their mortgages? And how do the banks without payments on mortgages explain their poor financial situation to regulators.
“America: The world’s scariest emerging market economy:
“Americans have long viewed their economy as the shining city on the hill for other countries to emulate. Yet since the 2008 Lehman bankruptcy, and especially over the past four years, the U.S. economy has increasingly resembled the emerging market economies to which we have been so free with our economic advice.”
https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/526410-america-the-worlds-scariest-emerging-market-economy
“U.S. politicians are behaving like children by not passing a new stimulus bill that could help Americans whose income has been wiped out by the coronavirus pandemic, JPMorgan Chase & Co Chief Executive Jamie Dimon said on Wednesday at a New York Times conference.
““This is childish behavior on the part of our politicians,” Dimon said about an impasse between Democrats and Republicans…”
https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-jpmorgan-dimon/jpmorgans-dimon-says-childish-u-s-politicians-are-preventing-stimulus-package-idUSKBN27Y2D1
Sure…it is childish to not agree to typical Democrat spending terms, such as bailing out left wing, poorly managed, corrupt states and cities, providing funding to illegal aliens, and other assorted leftist demands.
I would say it is quite reasonable .
A new stimulus bill that JPMorgan Chase will be asked to help distribute, and from which they will skim millions in vigorish. While ordinary people are being thrown out of work or even dying. Have they no honour? Have they no shame?
The article from “The Hill” reads like an article from a newspaper that sees things from the perspective of a Democrat. Perhaps Biden will be able to fix up all of the problems caused by Trump’s bad policies, or maybe not.
One more problem to worry about after Hubbert’s Pimple:
EXCERPT: Except for pre-natal mortality, natural selection for effective mutation removal has been greatly reduced.
It seems clear that for the past few centuries harmful mutations have been accumulating. Why don’t we notice this? If we are like Drosophila, the decrease in viability from mutation accumulation is some 1 or 2% per generation. This is more than compensated for by much more rapid environmental improvements, which are keeping well ahead of any decreased efficiency of selection. How long can we keep this up? Perhaps for a long time, but only if there remains a social order that permits steady environmental improvements. If war or famine force our descendants to return to a stone-age life they will have to contend with all the problems that their stone-age ancestors had plus mutations that have accumulated in the meantime. [We will not have to regress that far. Pre-industrial farmers had the same childhood mortality rates as hunter-gatherers.]
SNIP
80 mutations in a fly—and whatever the number is in the human species—must surely have deleterious effects that don’t show up in a life table (or as effects on fitness). How many headaches, stomach upsets, depressed periods, and such things that make life less pleasant, but don’t reduce viability or fertility, would be eliminated if our mutation rate had been lower? I suspect the number is substantial.
SNIP
I do regard mutation accumulation as a problem. It is something like the population bomb, but it has a much longer fuse. We can expect molecular techniques to increase greatly the chance of early detection of mutations with large effects. But there is less reason for optimism about the ability to deal with the much more numerous mutations with very mild effects. https://www.pnas.org/content/94/16/8380
Surely the absence of modern medicine should solve this supposed problem very quickly indeed? To take one common example, if you’re callous enough, there will be no type 1 diabetics in a matter of weeks.
Well, not *none”.. but…
https://www.diabetes.co.uk/diabetes-history.html
The low-calorie diet we may soon be facing can’t hurt.
The fact that people today live in a different part of the world than is ideal from the point of vitamin D product is a clear problem, even apart from the accumulated bad mutation issue. We have lots of issues that leave us in worse shape than our hunter-gatherer ancestors.
Bitcoin $18,000 https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/?symbol=BTC.CB=
a manipulated price? who knows?
of course it’s good news for owners of Bitcoin.
but it could be a sign of trouble for the real economy.
does money pour into Bitcoin because there are no good profitable alternatives?
The chinese cashing out of the fake commie racket.
I would be contrarian here but it may be possible to unlock trillions of oil barrels through nuclear process heat:
https://alfinnextlevel.wordpress.com/2020/02/29/nuclear-micro-reactors-in-case-of-apocalypse/
Nuclear represents another form of complexity. Uranium has to be mined, processed, and sent around the world. Its price tends to be too low, just as the price of fossil fuels tended to be too low. We mine the easiest uranium to access first. So we have similar problems with uranium as with fossil fuels. Of course, we use fossil fuels to build these devices as well. If the economic system isn’t working (loss of international trade; failing governments), these devices will have problems as well.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/nov/18/covid-19-mink-variants-discovered-in-humans-in-seven-countries
“Seven countries are now reporting mink-related Sars-CoV-2 mutations in humans, according to new scientific analysis. The mutations are identified as Covid-19 mink variants as they have repeatedly been found in mink and now in humans as well.”
“We knew there were these mink variants in seven countries, but we only had about 20 genomes of each, which is very few. Then last week the Danes uploaded 6,000 genome sequences and with those we were able to identify 300 or more of the mink variant Y453F in viruses having infected humans in Denmark,” said University College London (UCL) Genetics Institute director Francois Balloux.”
“The early observations by CSIRO [Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation] scientists demonstrate the possible implications for the wider spread of Sars-CoV-2 variants between humans and animals,” she said.
Could virus variants continue to spread around the world evading the new vaccines? Worse yet, what if the variants develop a whole family of Covid strains making vaccine development unrealistic?
could covid vaccines work like flu vaccines?
for flu, it seems that the annual vaccine is barely 50% effective because the flu strains are different every year.
Oh dear! I can imagine that this problem could spread to other kinds of animals as well. We will supply them all with masks and tell them to stay six feet apart. Actually, we can’t do that. We seem to think we have more control over the virus and its mutations that we really have.
In Wuhan, they were supposedly chucking their pets out the apt. tower windows. Real? Psy-op? Pix of dead pups on the pavement, anyway…
do we think that we think the way we really think?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases#:~:text=Belief%2C%20decision-making%20and%20behavioral%20%20%20%20Name,as%20a%20…%20%2020%20more%20rows%20
in the List of Cognitive Biases:
“The proportionality bias is the tendency to assume that big events have big causes. It is a type of cognitive bias and plays an important role in people’s tendency to accept con spir acy theories.[1][2] “When something big happens, we tend to assume that something big must have caused it,”.[3]
A million small changes eventually cascade into a monumental paradigm shift.
http://energyskeptic.com/
Alice Friedemann goes on a self-admitted rant:
“Global peak oil production may have already happened in October of 2018 (Will covid-19 delay peak oil? Table 1). It is likely the decline rate will be 6%, increasing exponentially by +0.015% a year (see post “Giant oil field decline rates and peak oil”). So, after 16 years remaining oil production will be just 10% of what it was at the peak.”
“The real threat is declining fossil production, yet cli mate change gets nearly all the coverage.”
“The rant continues. The reason I am so annoyed with the attention to Cli mate Change is that it became THE PROBLEM and THE SOLUTION was to generate electricity with wind and solar power to lower emissions. But as we all know, there have been no closures of fossil fuel plants…”
“If the actual problem is that finite fossil fuels power our civilization and their peak production is near at hand, then carrying capacity will be far less.”
a good read, though perhaps a bit too optimistic about possible solutions.
According to Alice Friedman’s article:
There are a lot of different things that might qualify as organic farming. Without fossil fuels, very little of what we consider today to be organic farming could continue. There is no economic system that is not dependent on endless growth, either.
Alice Friedman follows the same thought process as most peak oilers. They assume we can expect energy prices to rise; some supplies will be available, but at higher prices; all we need to do is learn to use less. In their view, today’s system will continue as before.
Over the years Alice Friedemann has done some great work in explaining our predicament.
One such, was the book ‘When Trucks Stop Running’ explaining how little we can accomplish with RE, and how dependant we are on FF. The short short version, with RE its not possible to run Trucks. And without trucks, no more IC.
With this post I find two great points. We are like fish in the water, and can not comprahend there is a medium in which we swim in. What water- what do you mean, where is it, can you point it out to me? – the fish asks.
We live in oil. Everything we have is oil. Our paradigm- world view- structure of reality- is based in oil. But alas, as it permiates everything we have, we can not see it. Its invisible to us.
Great point. This makes our discussions here on OFW limited to a select group of people.
The other great point was the EROEI in RE. Or rather, what is the point in trying to make storage for wind and solar, if the EROI is fundamentally too low in them? Say IC needs an EROI of minimum of 14.
Ok, without EROI of 14, no more IC, and we loose several billion people. Shouldnt it be kinda obvious that every endeavour we make in energy, should therefore be done in energy infra that is above EROI of 14 ? Meanwhile, we can get wind maybe to 16 and solar maybe to 10. But then we add batteries, storage, to that wind and solar. And wind EROI drops to 5 or 6 and solar drops to 3 or 4.
What the heck was the point in first place trying to go RE, if it doesnt support IC, and we end up losing several billion people? Wouldnt it been better to use those resources more wisely in the first place?
Two great points by Alice. Kinda obvious. But then again, not even comprehensible for the majority of the population.
focussing on RE has the effect of masking the fact that it won’t work (because of the illusion that it will)
our geniuses in uk govt propose banning ff cars in 10 years
I have searched in vain for any mention of the fact that if ff production for cars is eliminated, the cost of fuel for trucks etc will rise. (economics of production)
https://www.facebook.com/leigh.dundas.9/videos/2902201560066284
This is an 11 minute video talking about election interference and Trump’s response to it. In fact, Trump seems to have issued an executive order back in 2018, to look into interference by foreign entities, and to provide penalties (mostly confiscation of funds) to a wide range of entities, directly and indirectly involved with this interference. At the end, the woman suggests that Trump wants this legislation (or perhaps it is something like it) to bring down consequences on the liberal news network.
I am not good at summarizing this. You may want to listen to it yourself.
That;’s a very good video. This is the EO in question:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-imposing-certain-sanctions-event-foreign-interference-united-states-election/
Thanks!
The October Revolution took place under the Zodiac sign Scorpio.
This is a coup d’etat. The kiss of death.
There’s no other way to explain what’s going on in the US.
“Life is a tragedy for those who feel, and a comedy for those who think, and a farce for those who feel and think.”
I’m settling in to just rolling with this entire farce.
The US is using the same voting machine system used to fix elections for the two recent dictators in Venezuela.
the FarceBI and the DOJoke are in on it.
but anyway, I’m TRYING to just roll with it.
Why do poor countries such as Thailand have FAR lower covid death rates than the United States, UK, and EU? Find out here! —
Come on, it’s 30 minutes long. Give us a tl;dr
we do know some of the reasons.
poor countries: few obese people; out in the sun more so better vitamin D levels; far less elderly who are easier for the virus to take out.
Hydroxychloroquine, 400mcg/kg of body weight for the first four days following diagnosis. Don’t wait until you are desperately ill and at death’s door as in some of the US studies that “debunked” HCQ. Ideally HCQ is complemented with Ivermectin.
Deaths per million are a hundred times or more lower in many of these poor countries using HCQ compared to typical western countries that prefer drugs under patent protection.
I watched the video yesterday, coincidentally prior to it being posted here. Chris shows pretty convincing evidence that Ivermectin is the CV19 wonder drug, seems to be able to reduce cases of CV19 by up to 90% (if I understood correctly). Combined with universal availability of vitamin D, seems like Ivermectin could have CV19 under control – no need for a vaccine. What I took from the video anyway.
More grist for the trolls. A brief review of why releasing a new vaccine based on never-tried-before mRNA technique and with a short testing period might not be a good idea:
What’s Not Being Said About the Pfizer Coronavirus Vaccine. “Human Guinea Pigs”?
https://www.globalresearch.ca/what-not-said-pfizer-coronavirus-vaccine/5729461
All going according to plan I’d say.
It’s only new, not necessarily a bad thing and there is no dark plan. It’s quite smart if you think about it – RNA based vaccine to fight an RNA based virus.
Why would you want to turn yourself into a GMO?
my dark plan is for 250 million Americans to get the vaccine in 2021, excluding me.
please don’t tell anyone.
it’s top secret.
Yes, I am actually quite attached to my genetic code. I sort of see it as myself. And I sort of see myself as ‘sacred’. So it seems that it would be a sacrilege, even a negation of myself. I do not seem to feel that way about others. That is just how it is.
CHS very unimpressed with the vaccine trials:
https://www.oftwominds.com/blog.html
What does “came down with” Covid mean? Became physically ill, or had a positive PCR test? I could chase down the source but I still don’t like such imprecise language; he should know better.