Why Collapse Occurs; Why It May Not Be Far Away

Collapse is a frightening subject. The question of why collapse occurs is something I have pieced together over many years of study from a number of different sources, which I will attempt to explain in this post.

Collapse doesn’t happen instantaneously; it happens many years after an economy first begins outgrowing its resource base. In fact, the resource base likely declines at the same time from multiple causes, such as soil erosion, deforestation and oil depletion. Before collapse occurs, there seem to be warning signs, including:

  • Too much wage disparity
  • Riots and protests by people unhappy with low wages
  • Prices of commodities that are too low for producers that need to recover their costs of production and governments that require tax revenue to fund programs for their citizens
  • An overstretched financial system; conditions ripe for debt defaults
  • Susceptibility to epidemics

Many people have the misimpression that our most important problem will be “running out” of oil. Because of this, they believe that oil prices will rise high if the system is reaching its limits. Since oil prices are not very high, they assume that the problem is far away. Once a person understands what the real issue is, it is (unfortunately) relatively easy to see that the current economy seems to be quite close to collapse.

In this post, I provide images from a recent presentation I gave, together with some comments. A video of the presentation is available on the Uncomfortable Knowledge Hub, here. A PDF of the presentation can be downloaded here:

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In some ways, a self-organizing system is analogous to a dome that might be built with a child’s toy building set (Slide 4). New layers of businesses and consumers are always being added, as are new regulations, more or less on top of the prior structure. At the same time, old consumers are dying off and products that are no longer needed are being discontinued. This happens without central direction from anyone. Entrepreneurs see the need for new products and try to satisfy them. Consumers decide on what to buy, based upon what their spendable income is and what their needs are.

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Resources of many kinds are needed for an economy. Harnessing energy of many types is especially important. Early economies burned biomass and used the labor of animals. In recent years, we have added other types of energy, such as fossil fuels and electricity, to supplement our own human energy. Without supplemental energy of various kinds, we would be very limited in the kinds of goods and services that could be produced. Our farming would be limited to digging in the ground with a stick, for example.

The fact that there is almost an equivalence between employees and consumers is very important. If the wages of consumers are high, relative to the prices of the goods and services available, then consumers are able to buy many of those goods and services. As a result, citizens tend to be happy. But if there are too many low paid workers, or people without work at all, consumers are likely to be unhappy because they cannot afford the basic necessities of life.

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The problem civilizations are facing is a two-sided problem: (1) Growing population and (2) Resources that often degrade or deplete. As a result, the amount of resources per person falls. If this were carried to the limit, all of us would starve.

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As resources deplete and population grows, local leaders can see that problems are on the horizon. At first, adding technology, such as a new dam to provide water to make farms more productive, helps. As more and more technology and other complexity is added, there is less and less “bang for the buck.” We can easily see this in the healthcare field. Early antibiotics had a very big payback; recent medical innovations that help a group of 500 or 1000 people with a particular rare disease can be expected to have a much smaller payback.

A second issue with added complexity is that it increasingly leads to a society of the very wealthy plus many very low paid workers. Joseph Tainter identified the combination of these two issues as leading to collapse in his book, The Collapse of Complex Societies.

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Françios Roddier is an astrophysicist who writes primarily in French. His book Thermodynamique de l’évolution was published in 2012; it is now available in English as well.

The issue of starving people in Yemen is an issue today. In fact, hunger is an increasing problem in poor countries around the world. The world tourism industry is dead; the industry of making fancy clothing for people in rich countries is greatly reduced. People who formerly made a living in these industries in poor countries increasingly find it difficult to earn an adequate living with other available jobs. Rich countries tend to have better safety nets when there are widespread reductions in job-availability.

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Businesses often make long lasting goods such as machines to be used in factories or automobiles to be used by consumers. Governments often make long-lasting goods such as paved roads and school buildings. When making these goods, they take some combination of commodities, built machinery, and human labor to make goods and services that people will use for many years into the future. The future value of these goods is hoped to be significantly greater than the value of the inputs used to create these goods and services.

There are at least three reasons that time-shifting devices are needed:

  1. Workers need to be paid as these goods are made.
  2. Businesses need to build factories in advance.
  3. Businesses, governments and individuals are all likely to find the future payments more manageable, even with interest added, than they are as a single payment upfront.

I don’t mention the issue in Slide 9, but once time-shifting devices are created, they become very easy to manipulate. For example, no one knows precisely what the future value of a particular investment will be. Governments, especially, are prone to make investments in unneeded infrastructure, simply to provide jobs for people. We also know that there are diminishing returns to added technology, but stocks of technology companies tend to be valued as if complexity will save the world. Third, interest rate manipulations (lower!) and the offering of debt to those who seem unlikely to be able ever to repay the debt can be used to make the economy of a country appear to be in better shape than it really is. Many of us remember the collapse of the US subprime housing debt bubble in 2008.

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The purpose of a financial system is to allocate goods and services. High wages allocate a larger share of the output of an economy to a particular person than low wages. Appreciation in asset values (such as prices of shares of stock, or value of a home or piece of land) also act to increase the share of the goods and services produced by the economy to an individual. Payment of interest, dividends and rents are other ways of allocating goods and services that the economy makes. Governments can print money, but they cannot print goods and services!

As the economy gets more complex, the non-elite workers increasingly get left out of the distribution of goods and services. For one thing (not mentioned on Slide 10), as the economy becomes more complex, an increasing share of the goods and services produced by the economy need to go into making all of the intermediate goods that make that industrial economy work. Intermediate goods would include factories, semi-trucks, hydroelectric dams, oil pipelines and other goods and services that don’t directly benefit an individual consumer. They are needed to make the overall system work.

As the economy gets bigger and more complex, the non-elite workers increasingly find themselves left out. Besides losing an increasing part of the output of the intermediate goods and services mentioned in the prior paragraph, there are other pieces that take slices of the total output of goods and services:

  • High paid workers take their quite-large slices of the total output. These individuals tend to be the ones who get the benefit of asset appreciation, as well.
  • Pension programs and other programs to help the elderly and unemployed take a cut.
  • Health insurance costs, in the US at least, tend to be very high, relative to wages, for lower-paid workers.
  • The work of some employees can be replaced by low-paid overseas employees or by robots. If they are to keep their jobs, their wages need to be suitably low to compete.

With all of these issues, the workers at the bottom of the employment hierarchy increasingly get left out of the distribution of goods and services made by the economy.

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We know some of the kinds of things that happen when economies are close to collapse from the writings of researchers such as Peter Turchin, lead author of Secular Cycles, and Joseph Tainter, mentioned earlier. One approach is for governments to try to work around the resource problem by starting wars with other economies whose resources they might gain. Probably a more likely outcome is that these low-resource-per-capita economies become vulnerable to attack by other economies because of their weakened condition. In any event, more conflict is likely as resource limits hit.

If the low incomes of non-elite workers persist, many bad outcomes can be expected. Local riots can be expected as citizens protest their low wages or pensions. Governments are likely to find that they cannot collect enough taxes. Governments will also find that they must cut back on programs, or (in today’s world) their currencies will sink relative to currencies of other countries. Intergovernmental organizations may fail for lack of funding, or governments may be overthrown by unhappy citizens.

Debt defaults can be expected. Governments have a long history of defaulting on their debts when conditions were bad according to Carmen Reinhart and Kenneth Rogoff in This Time Is Different: Eight Centuries of Financial Folly.

It becomes very easy for epidemics to take hold because of the poor eating habits and the close living quarters of non-elite workers.

With respect to inflation-adjusted commodity prices, it is logical that they would stay low because a large share of the population would be impoverished and thus not able to afford very many of these commodities. A person would expect gluts of commodities, as occurred during the Great Depression in the 1930s in the United States because many farmers and farm-hands had been displaced by modern farming equipment. We also find that the book of Revelation from the Bible seems to indicate that low prices and lack of demand were problems at the time of the collapse of ancient Babylon (Revelation 18:11-13).

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Much of what peak oil theory misunderstands is what our society as a whole misunderstands. Most people seem to believe that our economy will grow endlessly unless we somehow act to slow it down or stop it. They cannot imagine that the economy comes with built-in brakes, provided by the laws of physics.

Armed with a belief in endless growth, economists assume that the economy can expand year after year at close to the same rate. Modelers of all kinds, including climate modelers, miss the natural feedback loops that lead to the end of fossil fuel extraction without any attempt on our part to stop its extraction. A major part of the problem is that added complexity leads to too much wage and wealth disparity. Eventually, the low wages of many of the workers filter through to oil and other energy prices, making prices too low for producers.

Collapse isn’t instantaneous, as we will see on Slide 26. As resources per capita fall too low, there are several ways to keep problems hidden. More debt at lower interest rates can be added. New financial techniques can be developed to hide problems. Increased globalization can be used. Corners can be cut on electricity transmission, installation and maintenance, and in the building of new electricity generating structures. It is only when the economy hits a bump in the road (such as a climate-related event) that there suddenly is a major problem: Electricity production fails, or not enough food is produced. In fact, California, Florida, and China have all encountered the need for rolling blackouts with respect to electricity in the past year; China is now encountering difficulty with inadequate food supply, as well.

Economists have played a major role in hiding problems with energy with their models that seem to show that prices can be expected to rise if there is a shortage of oil or other energy. Their models miss the point that adequate supplemental energy is just as important for demand as it is for supply of finished goods and services. The reason energy is important for demand is because demand depends on the wages of workers, and the wages of workers in turn depend on the productivity of those workers. The use of energy supplies to allow workers to operate tools of many kinds (such as computers, trucks, electric lights, ovens, and agricultural equipment) greatly influences the productivity of those workers.

A person who believes energy prices can rise endlessly is likely to believe that recycling can increase without limit because of ever-rising prices. Such a person is also likely to believe that the substitution of intermittent renewables for fossil fuels will work because high prices for scarce electricity will enable an approach that is inherently high-cost, if any continuity of supply is required.

Thus, the confusion isn’t so much that of peak oilers. Instead, the confusion is that of economists and scientists building models based on past history. These models miss the turning points that occur as limits approach. They assume that future patterns will replicate past patterns, but this is not what happens in a finite world. If we lived in a world without limits, their models would be correct. This confusion is very much built into today’s thinking.

In fact, we are living in an economic system/ecosystem that has brakes to it. These brakes are being applied now, even though 99%+ of the population isn’t aware of the problem. The system will protect itself, quite possibly using the approach of evicting most humans.

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The opinions expressed in Slide 13 reflect some of the views I have heard expressed speaking with peak oilers and with people looking into issues from a biophysical economics perspective. Obviously, views differ from person to person.

Many people believe that resources in the ground provide a good estimate of the quantity of fossil fuels that can be extracted in the future. Peak oilers tend to believe that the available resources will need to have sufficiently high “Energy Returned on Energy Invested” (EROEI) ratios to make extraction feasible. Politicians and climate modelers tend to believe that prices can rise endlessly, so low EROEI is no obstacle. They seem to believe that anything that we have the technical skill to extract, even coal under the North Sea, can be extracted.

If a person believes the high estimates of fossil fuel resources that seem to be available and misses the point that the economy has built-in brakes, climate change becomes the issue of major concern.

My view is that most of the resources that seem to be available will be left in the ground because of low prices and problems associated with collapse, such as failing governments and broken supply lines. In any event, we do not really have the ability to fix the climate; the laws of physics will provide their own adjustment. We will simply need to live with whatever climate is provided. Humans lived through ice-ages in the past. Presumably, whatever humans remain after what seems to be an upcoming bottleneck will be able to live in suitable areas of the world in the future.

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On Slide 14, note that today’s industrial economy must necessarily come to an end, just as the lives of hurricanes and of people come to an end.

Also note that with diminishing returns, the cost of producing many of the things listed on Slide 14 is rising. For example, with rising population, dry areas of the world eventually need to use desalination to get enough fresh water for their growing populations. Desalination is expensive. Even if the necessary workaround is simply deeper wells, this still adds costs.

With diminishing returns affecting many parts of the economy simultaneously, it becomes increasingly difficult for efforts in the direction of efficiency to lead to costs that are truly lower on an inflation-adjusted basis. Advanced education and health care in particular tend to have an ever-rising inflation-adjusted costs of production. Some minerals do as well, as the quality of ores depletes.

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An important issue to note is that wages need to cover all the rising costs, even the rising cost of health care. The paychecks of many people, especially those without advanced education, fall too low to meet all of their needs.

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Slides 16 and 17 describe some of the reasons why oil prices don’t necessarily rise with scarcity.

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I was one of the co-authors of the Ke Wang paper mentioned in Slide 18. We developed three different forecasts of how much oil would be extracted in China, depending on how high oil prices would be able to rise. The Red Line is the “Stays Low” Scenario, with prices close to $50 per barrel. The Yellow Line is the “Ever-Rising Prices” Scenario. The Best Estimate reflects the expectation that prices would be in roughly the $100 to $120 barrel range, from 2015 onward.

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In fact, oil prices have stayed fairly low, and China’s oil production has declined, as our paper predicted.

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Note that the chart on Slide 21 shows wage disparity only in the US. On this basis, the share of wages going to the top 1% and top 0.1% are back at the levels that they were in the 1920s. Now, our economy is much more global. If we consider all of the low income people in the world, the worldwide wage disparity is much greater.

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There are two things to note on Slide 22. The first is that producers, in inflation-adjusted terms, seem to need very high prices, approximately $120 per barrel or more. This is based on a presentation made by Steve Kopits, which I wrote up here: Beginning of the End? Oil Companies Cut Back on Spending.

The other thing to note is that oil prices tend to bounce around a great deal. Prices seem to depend on the amount of debt and on interest rates, as well as the wages of workers. The peak in oil prices in mid-2008 came precisely at the time the debt bubble broke with respect to mortgage and credit card debt in the US. I wrote about this in an article in the journal Energy called, Oil Supply Limits and the Continuing Financial Crisis.

The US instituted Quantitative Easing (QE) at the end of 2008. QE acted to lower interest rates. With the help of QE, the price of oil gradually rose again. When the US discontinued QE in late 2014, oil prices fell. Recently, there has been a great deal of QE done, as well as direct spending by governments, but oil prices are still far below the $120 per barrel level. Middle Eastern oil producers especially need high oil prices, in order to collect the high tax revenue that they depend upon to provide programs for their citizens.

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Coal prices (Slide 23) tend to follow somewhat the same pattern as oil prices (Slide 22). There is very much the same balancing act with coal prices as well: Coal prices need to be high enough for producers, but not too high for customers to buy products made with coal, such as electricity and steel.

China tries to keep its coal prices relatively high in order to encourage production within the country. China has been limiting imports to try to keep prices high. The relatively high coal prices of China make it an attractive destination for coal exporters. There are now a large number of boats waiting outside China hoping to sell coal to China at an attractive price.

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The blue line on Figure 24 represents total energy consumption up through 2020. The red dotted line is a rough guesstimate of how energy consumption might fall. This decline could happen if people wanting energy consumption coming only from renewables were able to succeed by 2050 (except I am doubtful that these renewable energy types would really be of much use by themselves).

Alternatively, this might also be the decline that our self-organizing economy takes us on. We are already seeing a decrease in energy consumption related to the current pandemic. I think governmental reactions to the pandemic were prompted, in part, by the very stretched condition of our oil and other energy supplies. Countries were experiencing riots over low wages. They also could not afford to import as much oil as they were importing. Shutdowns in response to COVID-19 cases seemed like a sensible thing to do. They helped restore order and saved on energy imports. Strangely enough, the pandemic may be a part of the collapse that our self-organizing economy is arranging for us.

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Slide 25 takes the blue line from Slide 24 and looks at what happened in more detail. On Slide 25, we are looking at the average annual increase in energy consumption, for a given 10 year period. This is split between the rate of population growth (blue), and the energy consumption growth that went into other things, which I equate to change in “standard of living” (red). The big red humps represent very good times, economically. The post-World War II bump is especially high. The valleys are times of disturbing changes, including wars and the collapse of the Soviet Union.

Of course, all of these situations occurred during periods when energy consumption was generally rising. If these unfortunate things happened when oil consumption was rising, what might possibly happen when energy consumption is falling?

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We now seem to be hitting the Crisis Stage. In the past, collapse (which takes place in the Crisis Stage) has not been instantaneous; it has taken place over quite a number of years, typically 20 or more. The world economy is quite different now, with its international trade system and heavy use of debt. It would seem likely that a collapse could happen more quickly. A common characteristic of collapses, such as avalanches, is that they often seem to start off fairly slowly. Then, suddenly, a large piece breaks away, and there is a big collapse. Something analogous to this could possibly happen with the economy, too.

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One of the major issues with adding intermittent renewables to the electric grid is a pricing problem. Once wind and solar are given subsidies (even the subsidy of “going first”), all of the other types of electricity production seem to need subsidies, as well. It is the pricing systems that are terribly detrimental, although this is not generally noticed. In fact, researchers who are looking only at energy may not even care if the pricing is wrong. Ultimately, the low pricing for electricity can be expected to bring the electric grid down, just as inadequate prices for fossil fuels can be expected to lead to the closure of many fossil fuel producers. Both Texas and California are having difficulty because they have not been collecting enough funds from customers to build resilient systems.

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The focus of EROEI research is often with respect to whether the EROEI of a particular type of energy production is “high enough,” relative to some goal, such as 3:1 or 10:1. I believe that there needs to be more focus on the total quantity of net energy produced. If there is an EROEI goal for highly complex energy types, it needs to be much higher than for less complex energy types.

Slide 30

Today, it is common to see the EROEIs of a number of different types of energy displayed side-by-side as if they were comparable. This type of comparison is also made with other energy metrics, such as “Levelized Cost of Electricity” and “Energy Payback Period.” I think this approach makes highly complex types of energy production, such as intermittent wind and solar, look better than they really are. Even intermittent hydroelectric power generation, such as is encountered in places with rainy seasons and dry seasons and in places that are subject to frequent droughts, is not really comparable to electricity supply that can be provided year-around by fossil fuel providers, if adequate storage is available.

Slide 31

Earlier in this post, I documented a number of reasons why we should expect low rather than high energy prices in the future. I am reiterating the point here because it is a point energy researchers need especially to be aware of. Production is likely to come to an end because it is unprofitable.

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One characteristic of human-made complexity is that it has very little redundancy. If something goes wrong in one part of one system, it is likely to ripple through that system, as well as other systems to which the first system is connected. An outage of oil is likely to indirectly affect electricity because oil is needed to fix problems with electricity transmission lines. An electricity outage may cause disruption in oil drilling and refining, and even in filling up automobiles at service stations. An international trade disruption can break supply lines and leave shipping containers at the wrong end of the globe.

We know that collapse tends to lead to less complex systems. We should expect fewer jobs requiring advanced education. We should expect to start losing battles against infectious diseases. We should expect a reduction in international trade; in the future, it may primarily take place among a few trusted partners. Some intergovernmental organizations are likely to disappear. Peak oil cannot happen by itself; it can only happen with disruptions and shrinkage in many other parts of the economy, as well.

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The climate is indeed changing. Unfortunately, we humans have little ability to change what is happening, especially at this late date. Arguably, some changes could have been made much earlier, for example in the 1970s when the modeling included in the 1972 book The Limits to Growth by Donnela Meadows and others showed that the world economy was likely to hit limits before 2050.

It is clear to many people that the world economy is now struggling. There is too much debt; young people are having trouble finding jobs that pay well enough; people in poor countries are increasingly more food insecure. Leaders everywhere would like solutions. The “easy” solution to offer is that intermittent wind and solar will solve all our problems, including climate change. The closer a person looks at the situation, the more the solution seems like nonsense. Wind and solar work passably well at small concentrations within electric systems, if it is possible to work around their pricing problems. But they don’t scale up well. Energy researchers especially should be aware of these difficulties.

The book Rare Earth: Why Complex Life Is Uncommon in the Universe by Peter Ward and Donald Brownlee points out that there have been an amazing number of what seem to be coincidences that have allowed life on Earth to flourish for four billion years. Perhaps these coincidences will continue. Perhaps there is an underlying plan that we are not aware of.

About Gail Tverberg

My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
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3,333 Responses to Why Collapse Occurs; Why It May Not Be Far Away

  1. Ed says:

    In 1992 Francis Fukuyama wrote “The End of History and the Last Man.” in it he said we now all agree liberal democracy is the way to go. There is no longer any conflict. Seems he was about 30 years too soon. It seems we all agree authoritarian rule by global oligarchs is the way to go.

    • Kowalainen says:

      Have there ever been anything else than that in IC? You didn’t truly believe in ‘voting’, now did you?


    • Tsubion says:

      The Technocrats and their AI god delusion will be replaced by something more palatable for the remainers / the remnant.

      Preparotary programming of the last 20 yrs has always depicted the ones who go along with the transhumanist agenda coming a cropper!

      It’s as if they are telling you that it’s all a trap. And it certainly looks that way now that we are further into it.

      The computers, the smartphone addiction, the track and tracing, the surveillance of everything, the electronic tagging, the internet of things including every single human being. All under a five geee grid of loving grace.

      But most of the pop will still go the way of the dinosaur. Especially when things start to turn south and the above techno plans start to look really silly.

      Some of us are mentally prepared for radical change / hardship, some are even physically prepared – these will do best – they shall be the new kings.

      Everyone else will have a “moment” when they realise they just can’t go on without their favorite yoghurt or their regular trips to CAncun or their latte or the chatter of well to do people fussing over the correct pronouns for their spoiled brats.

      The unprepared will “opt out” when the time comes. Their minds will simply shut down, unable to process the events unfolding around them. Like a massive system crash. All at once their minds will fizz and pop unable to process the flood of negativity. Then… the mumbling, the self hugging and sleepless rocking as the lack of meds sets in.

      If anyone knows of a different outcome I’d like to explore it however grim the stats.

      • Kowalainen says:

        That was easy. It’s you stopping being an entitled rapacious primate of IC, swinging your leg over your steed of steel, promptly proceeding to crank out the wattage, belly full of beans, rice and potato.

        Why make it so complicated?

        Right, humanoid chauvinism and apocalypse/rapture/rebirth hopium. Nah, ain’t gonna happen. Why? Because I say so.


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  3. racoon#9.5meg says:

    Hey Eddy;
    We expect report on quake conditions. What you didnt wire the bunker with WIFI? Hope you and family are well.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      I’m up in the mountains of Otago … unless there’s a 1000m wave headed our way … I think today will be just as boring as the past 300+ days… As we are trapped here in the prison paradise.

      BTW – just received this… ski season starts late June… based on the Leak … there is a good chance it will be cancelled as we may be into a total lockdown by then…

      I see Toronto celebrated 101 days in lockdown today… Congratulations and Stay Safe!!!

      Hi Fast Eddy,

      If you and your family purchase season passes with Pass Protection, we are happy to confirm that in your case, the Pass Protection will cover you for a full refund of the Season Passes if you are affected by a situation where a new requirement to provide proof of COVID-19 vaccinations means that you cannot visit due to not having the vaccination.

      Please let me know if you need any more clarification on this.

      Web: http://www.nzski.com

  4. Yoshua says:

    New Zealand has now been hit by 7.3 and 7.5 and 8.1 magnitude earthquakes off the cost. They are becoming stronger and it might not be over yet.

    • Kowalainen says:

      Atlantis again rises from the sea bed. Down plunges NZ.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        I am cowering in fear under my bed!!!!! OMG.

        • Duncan Idaho says:

          You on the South Island?
          One of my favorite places.
          Does need a culinary upgrade.
          And the wine is way over rated.
          But, not bad.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            It occurred to me that since the government is not going to respond to my questions about the studies on the long term side effects of Covid vaccinations… I will instead contact the local clinic.

            M Fast over our beers was showing me a survey she got from her clinic asking her if she was going to book a vaccine appointment… she is ignoring it rather than responding with F679 Off and getting on some terrorist list.

            I didn’t get the email because I am not a member of any clinic because I do not believe in getting sick… so why would I?

            Anyway … I will call them on Monday and find out if they might have said studies… and when they tell me they don’t then I will ask them why they are inviting people to be injected with something that could be lethal.

            I can’t wait!

    • I wonder if we will be getting more “Ring of Fire” earthquakes. There seemed to be a cluster of earthquakes back in 2018.

      • Nehemiah says:

        There are periods of history when quake and volcanic activity is more or less common, and earthquake activity in general has been on the increase for at least a hundred years. Also, the magnetic field is weakening (albeit from a strong initial level) at a rapid rate. A weaker field, volcanic activity, and quake activity might perhaps be tied together by activity in the earth’s core (which is responsible for the magnetic field). African potshard finds in Africa show, when their chemical structure is analyzed, that the magnetic field also weakened in the late 13th century, just as volcanic activity (which seems to go with seismic activity) was increasing and earth was beginning to enter the Little Ice Age period. Although the geomagnetic field is generated by the earth’s core, some theorist believe there is also an interaction with the solar magnetic field, which was weakening then and, even more so, now.

        We have had two tsunami generating quakes in the 21st century, one that washed over Fukushima, and the Christmas tsunami along the Indian Ocean that killed God knows how many. A big fault off the northwest coast of the US is due literally any day now. Was there even one major tsunami any time during the 20th century?

  5. Mirror on the wall says:

    Well that never took long. UK has unilaterally violated the NI Protocol by ‘extending’ the ‘grace period’ before full implementation until Oct.

    EU has now shelved any vote on ratification of the Brexit trade deal, which is in only provisional implementation. EU now says that it will look to law to settle the Protocol implementation, negotiations are over.

    It is not entirely impossible that UK could still end up with a no deal exit and WTO. Any EU member can veto the deal.

    Anyway, Boris is clearly trying it on for a bit. Fill in the background. Boris should definitely go for WTO! Get sovereignty back!

    I dare say that these shenanigans will not help UK to get a favourable deal on financial services. UK just ain’t trustworthy. Once bit, twice shy!

    > Brexit: European Parliament declines to fix date of EU-UK trade deal vote amid new row over Northern Ireland Protocol


    • Erdles says:

      The Brexit Northern Ireland protocol is clearly unworkable on the ground and without EU ratification of the withdrawal agreement the only recourse is for the EU to build border posts along the Ireland/Northern Ireland border. Good luck to them doing that.

    • Mirror on the wall says:

      EU is clear – no NIP, no trade deal.

      > Brussels to launch legal action against UK ‘soon’ over N Ireland

      In an interview with the FT, Sefcovic said the European Commission was already working on “infringement proceedings” against the UK, for what it sees as a breach of the two sides’ 2019 divorce treaty, which includes the Northern Ireland protocol to prevent a hard trade border on the island of Ireland.

      …. In addition to threats of legal action by the commission, Britain has also been warned by MEPs that ratification of the two sides’ trade deal is at stake.

      “The full implementation of the withdrawal agreement and its protocol [on Northern Ireland] is and remains a red line,” Christophe Hansen, one of the parliament’s lead MEPs on Brexit, said on Thursday.


    • Mirror on the wall says:

      The Biden camp has chimed in. Both EU and USA are guarantors to the GFA and both will refuse UK any trade deal if it plays up on the NIP.

      It remains to be seen how far they would go to make UK a pariah state, maybe impose sanctions and refuse any trade with UK until it submits to international law and its treaties.

      Nice one Boris, this should be entertaining.

      ‘We are gonna do whatever we like!’

      ‘Are you now?’

      ‘Yea we are!’

      ‘OK, let’s see what happens then.’

      > Biden ‘unequivocal’ about Belfast Agreement support as Dublin and London row over NI protocol

      Mr Biden has previously intervened in the Brexit debate, warning that the Belfast Agreement cannot “become a casualty of Brexit”.

      Last year he said: “Any trade deal between the US and UK must be contingent upon respect for the Agreement and preventing the return of a hard border.”

      US president Joe Biden is “unequivocal” about his support for the Belfast Agreement, the White House has said, following a unilateral move by London to extend the grace period for post-Brexit checks on some goods entering Northern Ireland from Britain.


      • Fast Eddy says:

        Biden’s? Biden can barely utter a coherent sentence….

        • Mirror on the wall says:

          That won’t stop the Biden camp from saying ‘no’ to any UK trade deal.

          Repeat after me.

          ‘Nnnnnn nnnnn nnnnnnnooooooooooooo……….’

    • Mirror on the wall says:

      This is pretty serious, EU ministers are saying that any prolongation of the ‘grace period’ is itself a violation of the agreement and will necessitate a rejection of the trade deal.

      If so, then the trade deal is over if UK prolongs as it insists it will.

      > MEPs Threaten Brexit Deal Veto Over N. Ireland Checks

      BRUSSELS (AFP) — The ratification of the U.K.-EU trade deal was under threat on Thursday after key ministers of the European Parliament said they would reject the pact if Britain pushed through with a plan to delay checks on food going to Northern Ireland.

      German MEP Bernd Lange, the head of the European Parliament’s trade committee, tweeted that MEPs would vote down the accord if the Brexit divorce deal was broken. “Still valid,” Bernd wrote, pointing to a previous statement that said any violation, or threat to violate, the divorce terms would mean a rejection of the trade bill.

      …. But the delay effectively change the terms of the January 2020 divorce that found ways to avoid putting a land border between EU-member Ireland and Northern Ireland, which is part of the U.K.

      In a tweet, Christophe Hansen, the top trade MEP from the right-of-centre EPP party, said the U.K. was “up to his old games” and shouldn’t forget that the deal was still hanging in the balance.

      Frost “should be mindful of the fact that European Parliament has not ratified the deal yet and that the full implementation of the withdrawal agreement and its protocol is and remains a red line,” he added.


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  9. Ed says:

    A re-analysis of published data from the Israeli Health Ministry by Dr. Hervé Seligmann, a member of the faculty of Medicine Emerging Infectious and Tropical Diseases at Aix-Marseille University, and engineer Haim Yativ reveal, in short, that the mRNA experimental vaccine from Pfizer killed “about 40 times more (elderly) people than the disease itself would have killed” during a recent five-week vaccination period. Among the younger class, these numbers are compounded to death rates at 260 times what the COVID-19 virus would have claimed in the given time frame.

    • I suppose the argument might be that over the long term, they may save lives, especially for those who are already in nursing homes.

      • Nehemiah says:

        The politicians and globalists may just be eager to get the economy running at full speed again no matter who has to be sacrificed to do so.

    • Ano737 says:

      Israel reportedly has had just under 6000 Covid fatalities. 6000 X 40 = 240,000. Do you know how the authorities have managed to hide that many deaths from everyone except the good doctor you cite?

    • Fast Eddy says:

      That’s nice … but I am more interested in the long term studies… you know… like 5 years out… even 10…. I have tried to google Long Term Studies Covid Vaccine… nothing…

      Vaccine Development, Testing, and Regulation

      Vaccine development is a long, complex process, often lasting 10-15 years and involving a combination of public and private involvement.


      Hey Duncan — help me understand why there are no long term studies involving Covid vaccines?

      And when you got your jab… did it ever occur to you to ask ‘hey — do you guys have any long term studies on the side effects of this stuff you are putting into my body?’

      I suppose if it had occurred to you to ask that question – you would not have been at the Lethal Injection Centre to begin with now … would you.

  10. Ed says:

    A re-analysis of published data from the Israeli Health Ministry by Dr. Hervé Seligmann, a member of the faculty of Medicine Emerging Infectious and Tropical Diseases at Aix-Marseille University, and engineer Haim Yativ reveal, in short, that the mRNA experimental vaccine from Pfizer killed “about 40 times more (elderly) people than the disease itself would have killed” during a recent five-week vaccination period. Among the younger class, these numbers are compounded to death rates at 260 times what the COVID-19 virus would have claimed in the given time frame.



    It is one thing when you kill goy and something completely different when you kill God’s choosen

    • This comment and the one above are identical, except that this one has the links included. I responded to the other one, so will leave both up.

      • Ed says:

        Gail, WP takes a LONG time like an hour or two if a post is long and has links. I do not have enough patience. It is quicker if it has no links.

    • Robert Firth says:

      Ed, as far as Pfizer is concerned. they are not “God’s Children”. Only the followers of Shabbatai Zevi are. And one of his teachings was that the coming of the messiah could be hastened by the mass murder of gentiles. A policy put into effect by the leaders of the “Young Turks”. who were also his followers.

      I have tiptoed around this issue, but since it is now clear that the Israeli government are deliberately killing their own people and lying in their teeth about it, perhaps it is time to open the box.

      • Kowalainen says:

        Let ‘er Rip Robert. Sing some tunes for the angels.

      • Bei Dawei says:

        Shabbatai Zevi has hardly any followers left.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Notice how Israel looks to be the first country to administer the Lethal Injection to all citizens….

        The Elders take care of their tribe first…. plenty of people still harbour a great deal of hatred for people of this religion … so they would suffer horribly if the CEP fails and large numbers of people remain when the system fails….

        This is not an unexpected development… for someone with a 1000 IQ … who is able to connect dots that nobody else can even see.

        • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

          notice how your 2020 c theeeory Plan failed miserably so you had to invent a new 2021 Plan.

          this was not an unexpected development.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            Notice how whenever I open one of your comments it reminds me to first do a search by your name and a mass delete? Because you never have anything worthwhile to say.

            • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

              notice how you never ever refer back to your failed 2020 c theeeory?

              this dodge of your failed 2020 c Plan was not an unexpected development.

      • Bobby says:

        Whhhhhaaaaatttt, Everyone knows it’s Sadhguru. Man where you been, New Zealand or somethin?

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  13. Gail, how is life without mask in Georgia?

    • My personal trainer said to me today, “We need to schedule your session two weeks ahead now, my schedule is getting so full.” She specializes in training the 50+ year old crowd. Quite a few people with immunizations are coming back. I didn’t leave, except for when the gym was closed.

      Gyms don’t require masks. Most people don’t wear one. I wear a plastic face shield, which may or may not provide any benefit. I haven’t caught COVID, despite being in the gym two or three times a week.

      Stores generally have signs up asking that people wear “face coverings,” which can be masks or shields. People mostly comply, at least in the stores I am in. Quite often, masks are worn so they only cover the mouth.

      There are an awfully lot of people (especially older people) in Georgia who are very worried about COVID. They have listened to people on television. They would wear masks, or simply stay at home and have their groceries delivered, regardless of what the rules said.

  14. Yoshua says:

    Mr Pool posted a shaky video of New Zealand 6 days ago…with a warning and a countdown of 6…and today an earthquake hit off New Zealand and a tsunami warning has been issued.


  15. Dennis L. says:

    A positive note:
    This is an impressive feat even if after landing it did explode. There is no large, expensive gantry, no long runway as for shuttle, it is right out of Buck Rogers.

    We have two groups, one is going light speed, the rest benefit but are resentful even at the highest levels.

    Jordan Peterson in one of his lectures notes that to succeed at this level one has to be a genius or merely brilliant and work 70-80 hours per week, year after year. Those who don’t quite make it, even if very bright become resentful, Turchin, too many applicants for not enough slots.

    An aside, Lex Fridman has a very interesting YouTube channel, various guests, long sessions. Lex is at MIT, AI, self driving cars.

    Dennis L.

    • Dennis L. says:

      Oops, missed URL.

      Dennis L.

    • An explosion is a real problem if you planned to save money by reusing the rocket.

      I know that the folks looking into space solar have as one of their basic requirements, “reusable rockets.” Without reusable rockets you also can’t do other high tech things, like put thousands of satellites in orbit to use for worldwide high-speed internet (planned by Elon Musk).

      • Very Far Frank says:

        This iteration that has just flown is SN10; there are various improvements made to the design from SN15 that is based around the data they’ve received from the first few flights.

        In true Elon Musk fashion they have an assembly line down at Boca Chica cranking these vehicles out every month or so, and tracking down to 1 vehicle every 2 weeks. The faster they iterate this design, the faster they create a Starship that can land as reliably, or more reliably than the Falcon 9, and then we’re into sci-fi territory with potentially hundreds of the things shuttling from Eart to Mars each orbital cycle.

        That is, if BAU holds up.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Tesla is an invention of the Elders. It is part of Operation Hopium (renewable energy is in there as well along with the fake moon landings) .. aimed at convincing the DelusiSTANIS that there is a future for their monstrous little bastards. (would it not be fantastic if the Elders don’t give the ‘children’ the lethal injection and we get a global Lord of the Flies at the end of all this!!!)

          Remember the Matrix movies… the scene where the guy is offered whatever he wants to turn on his mates — rockstar? moviestar? … anything….

          Who did Elon turn on to get this gig?

          • Ed says:

            FE, Elon is a pure soul. We are all ascending to be human AI hybrids on Mars with life expectancies of 400 years.

            • Ed says:

              our kids will be massively gene engineered and implanted with direct connects to AIs. Lord of the Flies comes when we send the teenagers for a vacation trip to Earth.

            • Ed says:

              Look A54G X_8 it is the Fast Eddy memorial rock cut.

            • Ed says:

              Fast Eddy was smart. He had an IQ of 1000 but he could not see the future. So, let that be a lesson to you.

      • Ed says:

        Gail, Elon already has thousands of satellites inn orbit launched by his Falcon 9 rockets with reuse.

        The Starship SN10 was a test article. SN11, 12, 13, 14, 15 are queuing up. SN15 will use 3mm steel versus the 4mm steel in SN10. I had heard the plan was light three engines for landing and shut one off. What happened was light three shut one off and then shut and second one off. I have to wonder if this was a software mistake. Hey Elon, you need a software QA department I volunteer to start it.

        • Ed says:

          the Falcon 9 launches 60 satellites per launch. Elon is up to 1023 so far.

          • Tsubion says:

            A blanket of satellites around the world.

            That will have to be constantly replaced from now as they break down and wear out.

            Nice little biznezz model as the curtain closes.

            His tunnel biz is ridiculous as well.

            And unless batteries advance in spectacular ways evs are still toys for the rich and virtuous.

            These elites will not have their supply chains… just like everyone else.

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  22. Harry McGibbs says:

    “The rapid unraveling of Greensill Capital has brought global financial turmoil to small-town Germany once again, and this time the first victim is the municipality of Monheim am Rhein.

    “The town of about 40,000 just north of Cologne may lose the 38 million euros ($46 million) deposited at Greensill Bank, the lending arm of Lex Greensill’s trade-finance conglomerate, according to a spokesman for the municipality…

    “The episode is already serving up echoes of the financial crisis more than a decade ago when local German lenders suffered losses in complex U.S. sub-prime mortgage securities created far from their door.”


  23. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Electric vehicle (EV) bubble may have burst… Tesla Inc has entered bear market territory.”


    • Harry McGibbs says:

      “Industrial metals plunged on Thursday as a collapse in nickel prices and a jittery mood among investors on wider markets combined to drag down copper by almost 5%.”


    • Dennis L. says:


      Only a thought. The greatest income comes not from hardware, but software as in Google, Facebook, etc. Intel is not doing that well, AMD seems to be doing well now, but it too has had its downs.

      Tesla may well be a software company with wheels. I posted a link on the latest rocket launch, damn impressive even if it blew up.

      Looking at agriculture, my guess is machines going smaller, not larger. Currently huge machines, the limiting factor is how long a human can drive one. RTK seems to be going open source, can purchase major components for $2K US. Software for driving a tractor has to be easier than driving a car.

      Tesla may be very well positioned in all these areas, driving trucks, cars, tractors, etc. Combine RTK with a Roomba in the seat and there goes the lawn maintenance business.

      Dennis L.

    • According to the article, I see,

      “The main culprit was the rising long dated US 10-year Treasury yield where it rallied to a high of 1.50% before it closed at 1.47%, a six basis points increase reinforced by the risk of a heightened inflationary environment.”

      Today the WSJ is reporting the rate at 1.545%, which is higher yet. WTI is $64.08, which is higher than it has been.

      The oil price is above $64 for WTI. Oilprice.com is reporting, Oil Soars As OPEC+ Sources Suggest No Production Increase

      The U.S. oil benchmark, WTI Crude, jumped early on Thursday to above $64 a barrel, soaring by more than 5 percent, after OPEC+ sources began telling reporters that the coalition may be close to agreeing not to increase their collective oil production in April.

      WTI Crude prices were surging by 5.06% at $64.21 as of 11:18 a.m. ET on Thursday. Brent Crude prices jumped above $67 per barrel, to $67.17, up by 5.10%, after OPEC+ sources started to leak insights from the ongoing OPEC+ ministerial meeting.

      It sounds like Saudi Arabia has decided to maintain its lower level or production. This is worrying for many.

      The US stock market is also down, as is the Euro relative to the dollar.

      Tesla stock is doing poorly. Down close to $50 today, to a bit above $600, when its high for the year was $883.

  24. Harry McGibbs says:

    “In taking care of the deficit, we must not forget the debt – With UK liabilities set to peak at about 97pc or 110pc of GDP, the Chancellor is right to be worried about higher interest rates.”


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  27. Harry McGibbs says:

    “New applications for US unemployment benefits saw little improvement last week, according to official data Thursday, ticking up slightly and remaining at worrying levels more than 11 months into the Covid-19 pandemic.”


    • Harry McGibbs says:

      “US policymakers lose faith in official unemployment rate: Decline in labour force participation during pandemic means headline number is too rosy…

      ““Published unemployment rates during Covid have dramatically understated the deterioration in the labour market,” Jay Powell, the Federal Reserve chair, said during a speech last month, noting that a more realistic unemployment rate was closer to 10 per cent.”


      • Harry McGibbs says:

        “U.S. worker productivity fell at its sharpest pace in nearly 40 years in the fourth quarter, the government confirmed on Thursday, though the trend remained solid.”


        • Things didn’t look as rosy in the fourth quarter as earlier. More virus cases, more deaths. People no doubt stayed home more. I know that we might have driven up to Wisconsin, but it was unclear what services would be available in Illinois and other places along the road. Productivity likely goes down when people are using services less.

          • Nehemiah says:

            Gail, I drove half way across the country shortly after New Year’s and had no problems, but bring a mask for when you enter convenience stores, etc. Some are stricter than others.

      • When FED = 10% so real stat = 20% and when including broader metrics: young, sick / crazy, undocumented people on the territory etc = 30% ..

  28. Yoshua says:

    AstraZeneca’s vaccine is a virus taken from a monkeys anus to which they have added the spike protein. 30% have reported side effects.

    How do you market this shyt?

    We have something taken from a monkeys anus that we want to inject into you!?

    • VFatalis says:

      Don’t tell Norman

      • Rodster says:

        “How do you market this shyt?”

        By convincing the more-ons that they need to be shot up with Monkey butt juice every 6 months so they can hug their daughters. At least that’s what Anthony “Fraud” Fauci is now telling the public.

        You know, I had a really, really hard time believing that “Saddam Hussein” has WMD’s BS when Colin Powell and G.W. Bush were repeating the lie 24×7. This Covid crap beats that by a factor of 10.

  29. Sven Røgeberg says:

    Hi Gail, here some oil news from Norway recently.
    This spring, the Storting decided to give the oil industry full depreciation/ write down in the year they make an investment ( an oilpackage went through the norwegian parlament, Stortinget, in june 2020).
    It did so to get the oil industry to invest more now instead of over repeated years.
    The oil industry has responded with increasing investments through the corona crisis and start production earlier.
    The system means that the state receives less tax now and more since.

    «”The oil companies got what they wanted. Even if the oil price is low, oil companies get a good return. The Ministry of Finance has calculated for us. If an investor wanted an 8 percent return after tax, the balance price of an imaginary field was 34.2 dollars before the oil package. After the oil package the balance price is 24.6. An investor gets good return even when the oil price is low under such a regime.
    So what does a barrel of Norwegian oil equivalents cost to extract, if we include all costs including investments, wear and tear, salaries and operations? Between 2010 and 2019, new production cost an average of 21 dollars, says the Norwegian Petroleum Directorate. The state wants at least a 7 percent return on production. It’s 1 dollar and 46 cents. The state thus makes good money on new oil fields, even though the oil price is only 22.50. The oil companies believe that 7 percent is far too little money for them, and that even if such a low oil price is socio-economically profitable.
    What happened after 2014 was that the oil industry said no to projects that were socio-economically profitable because they had such high internal requirements for returns, the Office of the Auditor General and the Climate Risk Committee have emphasized. And the oil legislation actually says that we must carry out socio-economically profitable projects. But the oil companies had become frightened because of the oil price falling so sharply. What the Storting did when they adopted the oil package was to give the oil companies an incentive to invest in fields that provide a high return at just under 30 dollars in future average price. It benefits both the state and the oil companies. Yes, they even earn well if the average price over the life of the fields is down to $ 25 a barrel».

    • Also, I expect that the taxes Norway’s government gets are a lot lower. Taxes collected by governments represent a surprisingly large share (greater than 50%, typically) of oil production costs. Norway, with its higher cost level, may not be able to get this high direct tax level. But I do know that it taxes auto fuel used by consumers at a high rate. This is part of its tax, as well.

  30. Russia’s 3rd vaccine: CoviVac developer tells RT new jab uses classic ‘dead virus’ technology

    “Globally, almost 100% of vaccines contain either deactivated or live pathogens,” he said, adding that the one developed by his center contains an ‘inactivated’ (dead) coronavirus. This type of vaccine simulates a natural infection process, introducing the immune system to the virus and “teaching” the body to fight the pathogen without the risk of it spreading through the body and causing disease, he explained.

    “Two weeks after the first shot, we give a person another jab to reinforce the immune response. As a result, the body becomes fully capable of fighting off the virus on its own,” Ishmukhametov said, adding that this vaccine involves two shots, as is the case with all other currently existing Covid-19 vaccines.

    It is based on a particular specimen of the coronavirus that was found to be more susceptible to inactivation and controlled reproduction in the center. Nevertheless, Ishmukhametov believes that the vaccine will be effective against all Covid-19 strains, including the South African variant, which reportedly proved to be resistant to the AstraZeneca vaccine.

    • A vaccine with no side effects on 300 people given the vaccine. That is pretty amazing. The opposite direction from Pfizer and Moderna. If it works at all, it may be helpful to those who demand vaccines.


    • Part of the problem is that the modified chimpanzee virus can quite possibly spread on its own, perhaps as a new disease. It uses aborted fetal cells, so it is very objectional to the Catholic Church.

  32. It came to my attention that there were in broader sense several precursors to Club of Rome / LtG. For example in terms of conceptualizing the nascent [scientific-technical revolution] in the context of forming another key historical period (beginning-end) etc.

    Science, Industry and society in the 19th Century, J.D. Bernal, 1953

    Civilization at the crossroads – the social and human context of scientific-technical revolution (R. Richta / Interdisciplinary collective work), 1966

    • You may remember the 1957 speech by Rear Admiral Hyman Rickover that predicted many of the things we are now experiencing.



      We live in what historians may some day call the Fossil Fuel Age. Today coal, oil, and natural gas supply 93% of the world’s energy; water power accounts for only 1%; and the labor of men and domestic animals the remaining 6%. This is a startling reversal of corresponding figures for 1850 – only a century ago. Then fossil fuels supplied 5% of the world’s energy, and men and animals 94%. Five sixths of all the coal, oil, and gas consumed since the beginning of the Fossil Fuel Age has been burned up in the last 55 years.


      Whether this Golden Age will continue depends entirely upon our ability to keep energy supplies in balance with the needs of our growing population. Before I go into this question, let me review briefly the role of energy resources in the rise and fall of civilizations.


      A reduction of per capita energy consumption has always in the past led to a decline in civilization and a reversion to a more primitive way of life.


      Fossil fuels resemble capital in the bank. A prudent and responsible parent will use his capital sparingly in order to pass on to his children as much as possible of his inheritance. A selfish and irresponsible parent will squander it in riotous living and care not one whit how his offspring will fare.


      For it is an unpleasant fact that according to our best estimates, total fossil fuel reserves recoverable at not over twice today’s unit cost, are likely to run out at some time between the years 2000 and 2050, if present standards of living and population growth rates are taken into account. Oil and natural gas will disappear first, coal last. There will be coal left in the earth, of course. But it will be so difficult to mine that energy costs would rise to economically intolerable heights, so that it would then become necessary either to discover new energy sources or to lower standards of living drastically.

      • Ed says:

        WOW, I am guessing he also said some nice things about nuclear power?

      • Kowalainen says:

        In 1886 the Rover safety bicycle was invented.

        In 1888 Tesla invented the alternating current (AC) induction motor and related polyphase AC patents, which enabled the electrification of the world.

        And as people back in the day did, I also eat mostly plants.

        Thus I can safely state that my overall living “standard” is about late 1800:s for the artisanry. Would that cut it as a rather drastic cut in living standards?

        How about that yer self entitled princesses of IC? Feel like following my lead? Nah, of course you don’t want to. But don’t worry about the inevitable, you will have no choice.

        Nkw, there’s your steed of steel and bowl of potatoes. Enjoy being lean and mean.


      • Robert Firth says:

        Please, please, read the whole speech, as I have just done. First, because it is brilliantly and frighteningly prescient, and secondly, because the US has done almost the exact opposite of what he advised.

    • JMS says:

      Jacques Ellul showed in he Technological Society (1954) how technology is a comfortable trap. He hoped we could get out of it, because he believed (and rightly so) that a technological society tends towards collectivism, which he, as anarquist, abhorred.
      But of course we couldn’t escape.There was never a way back. MMP ensures that.

  33. Adonis says:

    I am afraid the elders are targeting the middle class which number 1 billion people as far as they’re concerned we have outlived our usefulness

    • Xabier says:

      Now, they see the wealthier middle of the long-industrialised economies as an existential threat, and an obstacle to attaining their aim of the Singularity (still rich, all-powerful, doubled life-span and total control).

      What do we do to threats if we can? Neutralise, and then eliminate if necessary.

    • Herbie R Ficklestein says:

      All by design and intention Adonis, you are correct, the Middle Class has outlived it’s usefulness and will be resigned back to where they once were, the working poor slave state, or Gail nicely worded it as “interns”. Seems the Financial Masters of the Universe are fleeing the system, give the peasants 10% and allocate 90% for the Singular All Powerful in total control.
      It is fascinating, at least to me, how it is all unfolding and rather expertly done without much fuss. What can be accomplished by stressing, for your own good, safety and security. Yes, the Democrats are battling the Reps over the details of the Package, sure they are, while Trump lurks in the background saying, “I told you so….”.

  34. Fast Eddy says:

    Faui says:

    Dont go to the gym….

    Dont travel…

    Don’t go outside without a mask…

    Don’t go to bars and restaurants….

    Stick your finger up your arse and whistle Dixie!

    Punch the guy in the face who is only wearing two masks!

    Stone the family to death because they refuse the Lethal Injection!


    It completely blows my mind that people cannot see what is so obviously going on here.

    Stooopid is not sufficient to describe them… F456ing Imbeciles… and these MORE ons think democracy is a good idea hahahaha

    Thank god for the Elders.

  35. Fast Eddy says:

    I can’t stop laughing after reading that… I am sure I won’t be able to sleep tonight worrying about these variants and the Devil… the stress is insane!!

    Of course I just passed that to me mate who was insisting he’d be traveling soon while I would be trapped in NZ ….

    I couldn’t resist dropping an ‘I told you so’ in there….

    Guess what happened……

    No reply.

  36. Tim Groves says:


    Fox News report on a 60-year-old healthcare worker who died two hours after his second dose of the Pfizer Covid-19 mRNA genetic thingamy injection.


    • Tsubion says:

      If there was a way for me to stop my still active 88 yr old dad from getting the second dose (beyond tying him to a chair) I would do it. But everyone I know is hellbent on getting the injections. The only way this stops now is if an order is given from above or labs can’t keep up with demand or… sabotage.

      • Xabier says:

        Must be frustrating.

        An unreasoning ear of death has them in its grip, and a year of relentless propaganda has told them death from COVID is uniquely horrible, plus the scare stories about ‘long COVID’.

        My mother is simply terrified of that, on the basis of one really lurid account on BBC radio, some man who had lost his sight or something -although she won’t have the jab.

        I am familiar with respiratory illness, and I’d happily choose COVID without treatment – killing me in a week or two – over a slow and painful cancer, crippling heart failure or Alzheimer’s any day.

        They never reflect that those are their options if the virus doesn’t get them.

        I’m dreadfully upset as a great friend in his 80’s – once a great mountaineer and soldier, a fine character – has been jabbed: not so much because it might kill him, as death is near anyway, but the fact that they are making fools of trusting people and doing this so cynically.

        • Tsubion says:

          Thank you for your comments Xabier. I have always appreciated your balanced contributions on this forum.

          My emotions have been running hot and cold all year. Many people I know left this plane of existence during the winter. Including my mother. None of them with or from covid. Kidney disease, botched operations, suicides (set fire to car with them in it), accidents, and the usual grab bag of dementia etc.

          Yet, the only thng they believe people die from now is the dreaded C19. So off they all go to get their jabs.

          I feel like I did my part – official gov stats etc – but all for naught. There’s only so much you can do before you realise that the people you love are under a spell. Their minds were prepped for many decades by the device in their living rooms for this day.

          All I can do is stand back and be grateful for the time we’ve had and every day that remains.

          • Xabier says:


            By commenting I try to stay balanced, by putting my views in type: although someone did surprise me the other day in the countryside raving about it all and waving my heavy walking stick angrily at an imaginary Bill Gates – but then everyone talks as they walk about these days and hopefully they didn’t realise that I have no i-phone to connect me to anyone.

            I also like to think of Uncle Bill when sharpening my axes and billhook…..

          • Fast Eddy says:

            Billions are also under the spell of religion…

            At least with Covid I am pretty sure there is actually a disease involved here… although it might just be another form of influenza… but I am pretty sure it is a real thing.

            So I can understand how people might get stitched up.

            On the other hand…. let’s bring George Carlin back to life:


            • Tsubion says:

              I am pretty sure…

              Not good enough for me.

              Are you basing that positive pcr tests?

              Novel symptoms?

              Viruses created “in silico”?

            • Fast Eddy says:

              It could just be another flu… one way or the other it’s no different than the flu other than it appears to be more deadly for old frail people and less deadly for young healthy people (so says Mike Yeadon)

              Flu.. Covid… doesn’t much matter .. same

    • Ano737 says:

      By now millions around the world have gotten the second shot. The elders would not have been able to hide widespread reports of resultant deaths, as they were not able to hide the one you cite.

      • Tsubion says:

        Delayed action.
        Binary weapons.
        Insertion technique for other purposes – nanotech etc.
        Prepping the herd for acceptance of future mass jabbing – acclimation.
        Huge profits before it all gets shut down.

        It’s clear that the jabs have nothing to do with preventing mild, temporary health issues.

        • Xabier says:

          Spot on.

          The 1940’s were so very crude: one could only make money by conquering territory and then forcing slaves into actual factories.

          But now, one can get them to line up, voluntarily and repeatedly (not that they really grasp that yet!) – and even turn against and sneer at those who do not wish to be enslaved.

          Quiet brilliant!

          • Tsubion says:

            They sneer… and chuckle nervously… while radically keepiing their distance.

            At the start, I was going to acquire full hazmat ppe from amazon complete with snorkle and flippers to show I really cared but decided against it.

            I wouldn’t be surprised if the next “crisis” involves radiation or toxic dust from mars – as long as it’s invisible it’ll work just fine – so that the enslaved won’t even be able to step outside… even in their backyards.

            Sales of suits and detectors would go through the roof.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        It’s not the first or second shot that is the problem …

        The safety data for both companies is approximately only two months before receiving emergency use authorization status. Therefore, there is no data for mid-long term side effects, as the trials are ongoing.

        The estimated completion date for Pfizer/BioNtech trials is Jan 31, 2023. The estimate completion date for Moderna trials is October 27, 2022.

        Many are not aware any SGT recipient who participates in this therapy is now a part of an unprecedented experiment. When Health Canada shockingly agreed to interim authorization of the Pfizer/BioNtech injection, it came alongside a caveat: The company must submit 6 months of trial data when it is available.

        To underscore: Health Canada approved this experimental SGT on the populace without even 6 months of trial data.

        It is difficult to embark on a comprehensive risk-benefit analysis, as there is no safety data beyond a couple of months. New vaccines typically take about 7 to 20 years of research and trials before going to market. Pfizer/Moderna ran all of their trials simultaneously, including their animal trials, instead of sequentially. As retired Health Canada research scientist Dr Qureshi elaborated, it is during proper animal trials that meaningful toxicology data is obtained.

        Many doctors and researchers around the world have promulgated concerns about the well-documented phenomena referred to as Antibody Dependent Enhancement (ADE) seen in some viruses such as coronaviruses.

        In previous SARS, MERS, Dengue fever and RSV virus vaccine trials the exposure of wild viruses to vaccine recipients resulted in severe disease, cytokine storms, and deaths in some animal and human trials. The phenomenon of ADE did not present initially in vaccine recipients, rather it presented after vaccine recipients were exposed to wild viruses.

        This is the reason we do not have a vaccine for the common cold, MERS and SARS which is 78% homologous with SarsCov2 (based on analysis of the digital genome). Immunology Professor Dolores Cahill warned that this disease enhancement may cause many vaccine recipients to die months or years down the road. Esteemed German infectious disease specialist, Dr Sucharit Bhakdi opined:


        Hey Duncan… maybe you can whistle this tune as you walk past the graveyard 🙂


        • Ano737 says:

          You say there isn’t enough data to know it’s safe, yet you seem to have more than enough data to be absolutely certain that it’s deadly for everybody who gets vaccinated – data you won’t share, of course.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            It’s called common sense…

            Or it might just be that Dr Michael Yeadon former chief scientist respiratory as Pfizer says it’s f789ing madness to give an untested vaccine to healthy people because you could kill or seriously harm many millions… instead you give it to the at-risk who want it — btw he is suing the FDA to try to stop the roll out.

            Now if I was a CovIDIOT – I’d have no common sense … I’d ignore the fact that there has been no long term testing — and Mike Yeadon .. and take the vaccine like a good MORE ON.

            Now why would you want to give an untested vaccine to children … in the US 100 or so under 18 have died from Covid… that’s less than died from the flu the previous year…

            There is something very suspicious about this ‘vaccine’…. they seem to really really want everyone to take it…

            Knowing that we are running out of oil — that’s where my 1000 IQ comes in — when you run out of oil civilization collapses.. and everyone dies….

            The Elders KNOW that this outcome is unavoidable… so do you let 8B go on a violent rampage then die… or do you inject them will a lethal substance… and put them down peacefully?

            Think of what you would do with a pack of rabid dogs… it’s very similar.

            I can understand that you still might not understand what’s going down here… don’t stress out over it… I am sure you will be just fine… go get the jab.

        • Nehemiah says:

          “This is the reason we do not have a vaccine for the common cold” — About 200 viruses cause colds. With existing technology, you would probably need to administer a separate vaccine for each of them. Only four of these “cold” viruses are coronaviruses. The original cold virus was a rhinovirus contracted from horses. Most colds are caused by one of many variants of the rhinovirus.

      • Nehemiah says:

        I disagree. Just blame the vaccine deaths on pre-existing conditions (many of them relatively minor), which many people have, then they don’t get counted in the stats. MSM will just report the official numbers as they always do, because they are really just mouthpieces for government and corporate interests, not investigators.

    • Duncan Idaho says:

      I got my second dose weeks ago——-
      Think I take another hike today, then have a beer with a few friends..
      Pfizer Covid has a 95% protection rate.

      • racoon#9.5meg says:

        A well maintained fit body with a good autoimmune system probably is 99% effective. Discussing effectiveness is a trick. It reinforces unsubstantiated paradigms.

        This is a computer generated representation of a “something”. I acknowledge both the possibility that that computer construct has substance or that id does not have substance. Is the construct the cause of the phenomena we are observing? I acknowledge both the possibility that if the computer representation that is called covid 19 has a counterpart in the physical world it might be aa causal not necessarily the causal. I acknowledge the possibility that if the computer representation called covid has a counterpart in the physical world that it might be unrelated to the symptoms we are observing.

        Effective in what? How to judge effectiveness when your test is 5% accurate for a construct that is virtual. Its a sticky wicket. In this the PCR testing dual useful. It creates a “pandemic”. If someone tests positive after vax The accuracy rate is then cited. If symptoms are noted that correspond with the phenomena we are observing then is that “covid”?

        And how do the vax manufacturers define effectiveness? None of them claim it will prevent the acquisition or transmission of covid 19. How could they when the test is only 5% accurate? They claim that it will lessen one symptom for a period of months.

        I certainly do believe we a witnessing something new. It only seems to be more intense and deadly variation of seasonal flu. With the fear porn raging hot we really have real metrics to examine how much more
        intense and deadly To imply that what we are observing is defined by a empirical measure is not truthful.

        Flu pneumonia deaths got to zero? Sp either covid virus cures “flu” or the current flu deaths are assigned covid designation.? Or maybe they were “covid” before the “flu never existed? How can this enormous discrepancy exist? How can somthing defined as absalote dissolve and be replaced with a new premise? It exists because the premises made about the phenomena observed is not empirically confirm able. I believe this is because this discipline routinely takes not empirically confirmed abstracts and building on them that they are comfortable with this behavior. This behavior would not be tolerated in any serious study of science. This behavior is a near perfect match for the dystopian politics that has seen birth.

        I notice that your earlier addition of “implied” when claiming 95% effectiveness has been omitted now. Why Duncan? Even your acknowledgement of the tail end of this speculation is now omitted. Why?

        Applying quantifying terms to a paradigm creates the premise of substance. Not only are the quantifying terms suspect but the premises that precede them are too. As suspect premises stack the chances of their being accurate decreases exponentially not linearly.

        Just as the premises can not be empirically verified they can not be empirically disproven. The people asserting these best guesses ala shrodingers cat may well believe in them. I assert their right to believe that there assertions have substance. I assert the right of the Jehovah witnesses to believe their assertions too. The Jehovah witnesses dont want to inject me for the purposes of genetic experimentation. That this so called vaccination genetic experimentation is not debatable it is so by definition. That is not a premise that is a fact.

      • VFatalis says:

        “Pfizer Covid has a 95% protection rate”

        Nice slip of the pen

      • Nehemiah says:

        @Duncan, I wish you well, and I am grateful people like you are willing to serve as guinea pigs. If you guys turn out not to have elevated rates of death or disability, I may get one too, but I sure am not going to be one of the early adopters. But maybe I would if that dead virus vaccine were available over here. I have always been a fan of using dead viruses for vaccines, but they prefer live viruses in the US.

        • I think Johnson and Johnson’s version of COVID vaccine is closer to the vaccines we have had for other diseases. It is becoming available in the US. Some people are saying it isn’t as “good” as the other vaccines, but from a peace of mind point of view, with respect to long term adverse effects of the vaccine itself, it should be better.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      This is fantastic news! Epic, epic Shadenfroyd after reading it… I may have to run up the mountain to burn it off.

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  40. Fast Eddy says:

    Did I mention the other friend who ridiculed me because I have taken other vaccines but will not take Covid Lethal Injection?

    To that I said — but those other vaccines were not in the experimental stage… they had been tested for long term side-effects over many years

    No reply.


  41. Fast Eddy says:

    I have a friend who can’t wait to get the Lethal Injection. He thinks he’ll be free to travel etc (hahahahaahha) …

    He has high blood pressure – takes pills….

    So I says… if a high bp vaccine was made available that would eliminate your condition — BUT — it had not been tested for long term side effects because it was just released 6 months ago… would you take it?

    No reply.

    And better still if you did get very sick after taking it you could not sue the Pharma behind it… would you take it?

    No reply.

    Oh but wait!!! There’s more …. your doc says… there may be a new variant of high BP that this vaccine will not help with (Devil High BP!!!) … are you still in?

    No reply.

    I suspect he is still hell bent on the Covid Lethal Injection


    • Tsubion says:

      Most people are under heavy mind control – hynotised, brainwashed zombies. I now deal with people I encounter as if they are vegetables with legs. I don’t feel pity or the need to warn them of dangers anymore. This was always their fate. There is nothing that anyone can do.

      • Artleads says:

        And they’v been heading this way all of their lives. Maybe there’s something to reincarnation.

  42. Is universal income closer to reality? Cities from Stockton to St. Paul are already testing monthly checks for residents

    Despite working two jobs, Lorrine Paradela, 46, of Stockton, California, endured unrelenting stress over whether she could pay her bills every month.

    “Sometimes you get child support, sometimes you don’t,” says Paradela, who lives with her 17-year-old son and 11-year-old daughter and doesn’t qualify for public assistance. “My mind kept going all the time. It wouldn’t stop. I didn’t sleep right.”

    In early 2019, she began receiving $500 a month as part of a Stockton pilot program that gave a similar amount to 125 residents for two years. She used the money to pay bills, buy her kids gifts, fix her 2003 Chevy Trailblazer and buy a 2015 Honda Accord that allowed her to keep working.

    “I was able to breathe better,” she says. “I was able to sleep.”

  43. Why Pope Francis is pushing for universal basic income

    Workers across the world are looking forward to the day capitalism takes the road of human equity with universal basic income (UBI), which would give them much-needed succor after the trial by fire of the Covid-19 pandemic.

    Pope Francis is among the world’s economists, thinkers and billionaires who support UBI as a way of altering the relationship between capital and labor, the two main pillars of the laissez-faire system that wants to keep the government outside all capitalist activities.

    The relation between capital and labor cannot be the same once UBI becomes a policy, promising every adult — rich and poor, working and non-working — a regular income from the state.

    High-profile policymakers have concluded that after disruptive digital technologies become part of and parcel of social life in the new norm of the post-Covid-19 world, privatization of profit and socialization of loss will not go in tandem in the long run.

    In the coming years, artificial intelligence, robotics and automation will render the toiling human capital redundant worldwide.

    • ssincoski says:

      Perhaps he could lead by example by providing UBI for some needy subset of the flock for one year. I’m sure the church could afford it. If cash is not readily available I’m sure they could find a few treasures to sell off to fund the project. If successful, they could use as a recruiting tool.

      • Robert Firth says:

        Perhaps he could read the story of Dives and Lazarus (Luke xvi, 19 to 31), and reflect on what might await him when summoned by the Lord Osiris.

        • Nehemiah says:

          UBI–unless it is very modest supplement (not nearly enough to keep body and soul together), there will be no way to pay for it. Maybe the Pope thinks we can just crank up the printing presses like Venezuela. Dumbest Pope ever. Maybe he should stick to theology, prayer, and personal morality and leave tax and spending calculations to people who can do math. Ditto for “climate change.” He clearly doesn’t understand it. I’ll bet he doesn’t tell his auto mechanic, plumber or electician how to do their jobs. Why should he lecture public officials on other subjects he doesn’t understand any better?

        • Tim Groves says:

          This is the danciest ever version of the Dives and Lazarus tale.

          The full lyrics are a bit too long to post here. So with a spoiler alert, here are the last few verses.

          as it fell out upon one day
          poor Lazarus sickened and died
          there came two angels out of Heaven
          his soul thereto to guide

          rise up, rise up brother Lazarus
          come along with me
          there’s a place for you in Heaven
          sitting on an angel’s knee

          as it fell out all on one day
          Diverus sickened and died
          there came two serpents out of Hell
          his soul thereto to guide

          rise up, rise up brother Diverus
          come along with me
          there is a place for you in Hell
          sitting on a serpent’s knee

          Diverus lifted up his eyes
          and he saw poor Lazarus blessed
          a drop of water brother Lazarus
          for to quench my flaming thirst

          if I had as many years to live
          as there are blades of grass
          I would make it in my will secure
          that the Devil should have no power

          Hell is dark, Hell is deep
          Hell is full of mice
          it’s a pity that any poor sinful soul
          should be barred from our saviour Christ

  44. Democrats’ Stealth Plan to Enact Universal Basic Income

    Universal basic income is about to arrive in America. Congressional Democrats’ $1.9 trillion stimulus bill provides for no-strings attached checks, limited only to parents of children under 18. This UBI for parents is billed as pandemic relief, but its real purpose is to put a stake in the heart of work-based welfare reform.

    Supporters blandly describe their plan as “Child Tax Credit improvements for 2021.” It would replace today’s annual child tax credit, which tops out at $2,000, with more-generous “child allowances,” payable monthly. Those allowances are federal payments of $3,600 (or $300 a month) for each child under 6 and $3,000 ($250 a month) for older children. The current credit increases with income from work; the new one would provide the same large payments to all.

    • That is very interesting! It might help keep the number of births from falling to zero.

      • Nehemiah says:

        Maybe not:

        Count Down
        How Our Modern World Is Threatening Sperm Counts, Altering Male and Female Reproductive Development, and Imperiling the Future of the Human Race
        By Shanna H. Swan and Stacey Colino

        In 2017, author Shanna Swan and her team of researchers completed a major study. They found that over the past four decades, sperm levels among men in Western countries have dropped by more than 50 percent. They came to this conclusion after examining 185 studies involving close to 45,000 healthy men. The result sent shockwaves around the globe—but the story didn’t end there. It turns out our sexual development is changing in broader ways, for both men and women and even other species, and that the modern world is on pace to become an infertile one.

        How and why could this happen? What is hijacking our fertility and our health? Count Down unpacks these questions, revealing what Swan and other researchers have learned about how both lifestyle and chemical exposures are affecting our fertility, sexual development—potentially including the increase in gender fluidity—and general health as a species. Engagingly explaining the science and repercussions of these worldwide threats and providing simple and practical guidelines for effectively avoiding chemical goods (from water bottles to shaving cream) both as individuals and societies, Count Down is at once an urgent wake-up call, an illuminating read, and a vital tool for the protection of our future.

        Swann estimates that the sperm count in most of the world is on track to fall to zero by 2045 (however, the Amish will probably be exempted).

  45. Texas Power Grid could be a cautionary tale for rest of US

    Texans get most of their heat from electricity, and the rest of the country may be headed that way. That will pose some new challenges for energy infrastructure.

    Dependence on electric heat also drove the demand surge that helped cause the Texas blackouts in the first place. The power grid managed by the Electric Reliability Council of Texas, which covers almost all of the state, at one point delivered 20% more electricity than its peak winter forecast, according to BloombergNEF, Bloomberg’s energy-research arm. Actual demand was 30% or more above the forecast. The combination of electrical generation from coal, natural gas, wind and even nuclear falling out for a variety of freeze-related reasons and millions of Texans cranking up the electric heat because it was so cold proved more than the system could handle.

    • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

      “Texans get most of their heat from electricity, and the rest of the country may be headed that way. That will pose some new challenges for energy infrastructure.”

      it’s abbsurd to figure that the USA will be “headed that way” AND also will be headed to mostly electric vehicles.

      • ssincoski says:

        Unless the plan is for them to stay warm in their electric vehicles (instead of a home). At least there will be no deaths from carbon-monoxide.

      • theblondbeast says:

        It is absurd – but as a mechanical engineer who designs heating and cooling for commercial buildings I tell you it is happening rapidly. Most new affordable housing projects are using all electric systems. This includes cold areas of the country. The same projects install many electric vehicle charging stations as part of ordinances.

      • Nehemiah says:

        Electric “Reliabily Council, LOL! I read that most of the ERCOT board does not even live in the state. For example, one of its members lives in Michigan. Do they really understand the Texas energy system?

    • Pete says:

      Almost all homes built in Texas in the last 25 years use Natural Gas.
      Peak electrical use during winter is a little more than HALF the peak electrical use during summer. Air Conditioners use electricity.
      Texas handles the electrical loads in summer without any problems.
      In this case the cold weather caused some power plants to go offline and there was not enough electricity.

      • Also, computer programs that didn’t “understand” what was happening turned off high-cost natural gas electricity generation, assuming that it was unneeded, even though it really was. I believe this was in a WSJ article a while ago.

      • Nehemiah says:

        I grew up in Texas, and the only people I knew who did not heat with natural gas were country people who used propane.

  46. Severe shortage of sea containers leaves global food supply chain ‘high and dry’

    Tonnes of perishables lying uncleared in India due to shipment delay
    The severe shortage of sea containers – both dry and reefer – has affected the global food supply chain, leaving tonnes of perishables such as onions, meat products and millets lying uncleared in India due to the delay in shipment.

    • Xabier says:

      Melinda Gates said that in their pandemic planning they never thought about the economic consequences.

      Those who believe that are free to do so…..

      • Nehemiah says:

        I believe it. First, the Gates’ personal fortunes depends on the continued functioning of the global economy and global supply chain. None of the oligarchs want a global economic collapse. They too have too much much to lose. People who have contact with those circles (often because they provide them with financial or other services) have been known to say that many of the very rich are terrified of what may happen to them and their fortunes if society breaks down.

        Second, these liberal establishment types live in an echo chamber of their own making where they all listen to each other and are exposed to little other than “maintream” ideas. I will bet few if any of them have even read David Korowicz’s 2012 paper that warned the world of this danger. I will bet few of them have heard of system dynamics either.

        Another problem is that the rich people like Melinda Gates who often lead these do gooder efforts (and want to lead them because it improves their social standing) do not really think deeply about the problems they are addressing. It is more like part time hobby for them.

        And even to the extent that experts are involved, they are likely to be “narrow” experts who know a great deal about their own academic or intellectual silo, but may be very unaware of how their specialty interacts with other aspects of reality. Epidemiologists may not know much about economics, most economists ignore physics, biology, and even economic history in most cases, and Aspergerish Bill Gates, who probably has an extremely high IQ, knows a lot about his own narrow field, and probably still devotes a lot of time to his own business, but I don’t think he has taken the time to understand climate change (not just fashionable talking points about it), African poverty, epidemiology, or other problems he makes public pronouncements about and donates money to. As long as he can be seen out there trying to be good guy, it will boost his standing in ultra-wealthy social circles, which is what I think really motivates him. When I have heard him talking about his foundation’s pet projects, he has never sounded enthusiastic about his subject, or even especially knowledgeable.

        (And for the same reason, I don’t think oligarchs in general devote enough time to the problem of creating some some sort of one world fiefdom to actually succeed at it, and if they made a serious effort to do so in spite of it being just a hobby for them, they would probably bungle it.)

    • rufustiresias999 says:

      The article is not available to me. Considering the global economy is on a slow pace, Why is there a shortage of containers?

      • racoon#9.5meg says:

        Well the official story desnt make sense. The claim is that the demand for China goods is much higher than the demand for USA goods. That the containers are being left in USA.

        If thats so why has the price for a shipping container doubled in a year in the USA? If there this huge amount of surplus containers the price would go down.

        China increased shipping container production by 61% in 2020. Honey badger just makes more.

        The port of long beach, a weak link in the supply chain always. I suspect- just suspect- that the CA covid lockdown policies have far more to do with supply chain problems than a phantom shipping container shortage.

        The time that ships sit off the port is at record levels. and all the “sit spaces” are full. A ship cant just stop in the middle of the ocean and chill.
        That wait adds hugely to the cost of shipping. That wait is becming close tp the time it takes to cross the pond. That in effects halfs shipping volumes.

        So thats my wild ass guess. A port that has struggled for years with inadequate infrastructure now gets hit by draconian covid shutdown restrictions and turns a mess into a flat out disaster. Poster child governor cant be held accountable so a reason is created.

        Or perhaps China is throttling back a bit on trading goods for fiat.

        How do you like me now!

        • Nehemiah says:

          “If thats so why has the price for a shipping container doubled in a year in the USA?” — China is paying so much to get enough shipping containers for their own exports that it is more profitable to immediately ship them empty shipping containers for a fee than to reuse them for US shipping.

  47. Chip Shortage Strains Heavy-Duty Truck Makers

    The global semiconductor crunch is reaching assembly lines for heavy-duty trucks, as the shortfall in chips and other components hits manufacturers trying to fill surging orders from operators of big rigs.

    North American production of Class 8 trucks, the biggest freight-carrying vehicles on highways, “has basically been flat since September in a market where more trucks are needed quickly,” said Don Ake, vice president of commercial vehicles at transportation research firm FTR.

    He said the backlog of orders at truck manufacturers has grown from 89,300 last June, after truckers had pulled back capacity plans in the wake of coronavirus lockdowns, to 205,000 in January, the most recent month for which those figures were available. Fleet operators ordered 44,000 heavy-duty trucks last month, more than triple the number they ordered in February 2020, according to preliminary data from FTR.

    • Kowalainen says:

      Gotta pay more for those semiconductor goodies. I’m sure TSMC and Samsung will give priority.

      Or just buy expensive stuff from the spiffier nodes and stop penny pinching crappy microcontrollers.



    • Robert Firth says:

      Why do trucks need chips? They ran pretty well without them for most of a century. Needless complexity strikes again.

      • Besides the obvious engine (xy% fuel savings), emissions, there are also various hydraulic (up/down and ramp) and tire pressure circuits needing control, navi, plus various cameras and pilot comforts etc..
        It’s just full of chips 🙂

      • Kowalainen says:

        Why do we need trucks at all, when trusty old coal/diesel/electric locos can haul what have you to no end compared with the road bound wank?

        Slap down the rail and call it a day.

        I don’t see the problem.

        • Building rail requires making steel and transporting it. Also, what do you operate rail with? An awfully lot of people say electricity. But this is expensive to set up, and electricity ends in the not too distant future.

          • Kowalainen says:

            Trusty old steel rails and electricity. Hydro or just burn the coal in power plants and save the petroleum for the last mile as ssincoski notes.


            Let’s build up the infrastructure instead of feeding perpetually growing amounts of useless eaters.

            • Coal is having as much problem with low prices as oil.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Mitre 10 my coal people are telling me the special $19 price will no longer apply this year even if I buy the usual 4 pallets… looking at a 2 – 3 dollar increase. I’ll find out the new price when I load up in about a month.

              You should see the jaws drop when I mention we heat the house with coal. Going forward I may just say we are heating with Fairy Farts… then change the topic

            • Kowalainen says:

              Isn’t that perfect for manufacturing cheap steel and burin in power plants then?

              What are we waiting for?

        • ssincoski says:

          trucks should be for last mile only.

        • hillcountry says:

          Grandfather-in-law used to rail about the GM diesel engine conspiracy, usually with a small audience at Greenfield Village in Dearborn, Michigan, where he’d always do an impromptu lecture in front of the steam engines he had worked on as boss of the round-house in Canton, OH. He was a cranky little Italian guy who read the Wall Street Journal, traded stocks and opined regularly that “one day there’s going to be a rebellion”. I’ve wondered what things would be like if we’d stuck with steam.

          • Kowalainen says:

            Right, it seems we are past the bottle mail situation of the world with various intercontinental fibers connecting it into a stream of non tangibles.

            Intra-continental rail is the same for tangibles.

  48. Fast Eddy says:

    To those who do not believe the Elders exist… and that POTUS is the most powerful man on Earth… I give you … Joe Biden:


    • Bei Dawei says:

      How do you get from Joe Biden to the Elders of Zion? Why can’t it be Bidens all the way down (or up)?

      • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

        it is obvious that Joke Biden is merely a pupppet who is being told what to do.

        by whom? I think it’s reasonable that TPTB in the D party behind the scenes are calling the shots, and it’s reasonable that they are giving the leading authority to Obama.

        otherwise, it’s somewhat intellectually lightweight c theorizing to conjure up a scenario where some secret cabal is instructing Biden and every other gov and the biggest stretch would be that “they” are telling the CCP what to do.

        these are models and mental patterns created by minds who take a leap with very little info to go by.

        it’s basically that modern humans have inherited hunter gatherer minds, and as much as our ancestors had to make survival decisions based on limited info, this has devolved to modern humans and their c theeeories.

        • Tim Groves says:

          “The devil’s deepest wile,” wrote Baudelaire, “is to persuade us that he does not exist.”

          Perhaps the Elders have a similar talent?

        • Xabier says:

          On the contrary, although your observations are quite correct as to human nature, there is an excellent proverb: ‘A hint to the wise’.

          Sometimes, if sufficiently perceptive, one only needs key evidence, not a lot.

          When a student, I used to enjoy trying to piece together history from just a few lines in old chronicles and a bit of archaeological evidence – context is the thing.

          I was in your camp until quite recently, but the smell of something rotten just became impossible to ignore, and policies being implemented simply made no medical sense.

          It was in fact that disconnect and the very obvious liar’s body-language of Bill Gates in an interview that set me looking deeper.

          There is, in fact, nothing inherently implausible in the notion that this has been long-planned and is internationally co-ordinated.

          The secret Cabal consists not of a few Bond villains, but of many people in positions of influence who have arrived at their solution to our predicament, which they are now seeking to impose on us in a shock campaign.

          Nor are they so secret anymore, as every week has a new announcement from them about the future.

          Apart from evidence, it is also true that intuition can often tell people that ‘something is up’, that there is something dangerous in the air.

          Such intuitions should always be heeded in my experience, as they are an important part of our survival abilities
          -but they will lack all evidence by their very nature. No to be confused with paranoia of course!

          Other forms of 6th sense seem fairly useless, like those who can ‘see’ the imminent deaths of others – usually, those whom they warn ignore them, and they seem to be fated to die in just the manner foreseen.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            The global MSM is blocking/ridiculing/ignoring experts who dissent on the Covid narrative.

            It would be a struggle to find an article in the MSM that gives even the slightest whiff of concern regarding the FACT that these vaccines are dangerous because they have not been tested for long term side effects.

            Consider the power involved to control the global MSM. The Covid story is beyond bullshit – top to bottom it is a LIE. And if even a few major outlets were to challenge the LIE… it would completely unravel in a few days.

            Effectively a circle is now a square. And the vast majority of people look at the circle and say I see a square. The LIE is so effective that even if you say look — it’s round – there are no edges — it’s a circle — the masses will scream at you – NO!!!! It’s a SQUARE!!! I see a SQUARE!!!!

            A good friend of mine works in big pharma… I confronted him with the lack of long term testing on these vaccines… his response — with these new technologies we can now make vaccines in months instead of years….

            Compare a 100m sprinter from the 1930’s to one now.



            Edward Bernays was an amateur.

            • Nehemiah says:

              Fast Eddy wrote: “Consider the power involved to control the global MSM.” — Not really. It’s just a small number of big firms that own nearly all of it. The CIA (and maybe other intelligence agencies) has key media figures on its payroll in Europe (according to a retired German whistleblower), almost certainly in the US too (whispered within the US journalistic community), and possibly other countries. I recall one CIA director, now deceased, stated openly that he would not be a very good CIA director if he could not control the media. Even fairly sensational stories can be kept out of the mainstream media–and have been.

        • Tsubion says:

          It amazes me that there are still people where you are.

          There’s something called overwhelming evidence.

          And wilful ignorance.

          It appears to be a disease with no treatment.

          • Xabier says:

            The evidence grows literally every day: they are getting bolder, and telling us just what they intend to do to us.

        • Nehemiah says:

          The CFR. Not joking.

      • Tim Groves says:

        Then again, many are called, but few are Biden.

        • Kowalainen says:

          Would you like to be the official herder lackey today, boi?

          I guess no thanks. I’ll rather scratch my waste ejection region and then poke my breathing orifices with the same hand in true primate fashion. It seems more entertaining and less stressful.

    • Z says:

      The International Bankers run the show through the Central Banks and Commercial Banks.

      The highest Central Bank is the BIS which most people don’t even know exist.

      Any country without a BIS controlled Central Bank is targeted for destruction by the US MIC and subsequent NATO allies.

      Why do people think Iran, North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, Libya, Syria, etc. are constantly demonized?

      It is a big game and once you get one of these parasitical usurious debt based banks in your country…..kiss your country goodbye.

      • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

        yes, so follow the money.

        this is why most every country is trying to get back to “growth” in 2021.

        because then “they” rake in more money.

        regardless of the year+ irrrational reactions to the minor world health “crisis”, the evidence is plentiful that countries want to put that in the rear view mirror and return to growth.

        the big game is money.

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