How the World’s Energy Problem Has Been Hidden

We live in a world where words are very carefully chosen. Companies hire public relations firms to give just the right “spin” to what they are saying. Politicians make statements which suggest that everything is going well. Newspapers would like their advertisers to be happy; they certainly won’t suggest that the automobile you purchase today may be of no use to you in five years.

I believe that what has happened in recent years is that the “truth” has become very dark. We live in a finite world; we are rapidly approaching limits of many kinds. For example, there is not enough fresh water for everyone, including agriculture and businesses. This inadequate water supply is now tipping over into inadequate food supply in quite a few places because irrigation requires fresh water. This problem is, in a sense, an energy problem, because adding more irrigation requires more energy supplies used for digging deeper wells or making desalination plants. We are reaching energy scarcity issues not too different from those of World War I, World War II and the Depression Era between the wars.

We now live in a strange world filled with half-truths, not too different from the world of the 1930s. US newspapers leave out the many stories that could be written about rising food insecurity around the world, and even in the US. We see more reports of conflicts among countries and increasing gaps between the rich and the poor, but no one explains that such changes are to be expected when energy consumption per capita starts falling too low.

The majority of people seem to believe that all of these problems can be fixed simply by increasingly taxing the rich and using the proceeds to help the poor. They also believe that the biggest problem we are facing is climate change. Very few are even aware of the food scarcity problems occurring in many parts of the world already.

Our political leaders started down the wrong path long ago, when they chose to rely on economists rather than physicists. The economists created the fiction that the economy could expand endlessly, even with falling energy supplies. The physicists understood that the economy requires energy for growth, but didn’t really understand the financial system, so they weren’t in a position to explain which parts of economic theory were incorrect. Even as the true story becomes increasingly clear, politicians stick to their belief that our only energy problem is the possibility of using too much fossil fuel, with the result of rising world temperatures and disrupted weather patterns. This can be interpreted as a relatively distant problem that can be corrected over a fairly long future period.

In this post, I will explain why it appears to me that, right now, we are dealing with an energy problem as severe as that which seems to have led to World War I, World War II, and the Great Depression. We really need a solution to our energy problems right now, not in the year 2050 or 2100. Scientists modeled the wrong problem: a fairly distant energy problem which would be associated with high energy prices. The real issue is a very close-at-hand energy shortage problem, associated with relatively low energy prices. It should not be surprising that the solutions scientists have found are mostly absurd, given the true nature of the problem we are facing.

[1] There is a great deal of confusion with respect to which energy problem we are dealing with. Are we dealing with a near-at-hand problem featuring inadequate prices for producers or a more distant problem featuring high prices for consumers? It makes a huge difference in finding a solution, if any.

Business leaders would like us to believe that the problem to be concerned with is a fairly distant one: climate change. In fact, this is the problem most scientists are working on. There is a common misbelief that fossil fuel prices will jump to high levels if they are in short supply. These high prices will allow the extraction of a huge amount of coal, oil and natural gas from the ground. The rising prices will also allow high-priced alternatives to become competitive. Thus, it makes sense to start down the long road of trying to substitute “renewables” for fossil fuels.

If business leaders had stopped to look at the history of coal depletion, they would have discovered that expecting high prices when energy limits are encountered is incorrect. The issue that really happens is a wage problem: too many workers discover that their wages are too low. Indirectly, these low-wage workers need to cut back on purchases of goods of many types, including coal to heat workers’ homes. This loss of purchasing power tends to hold coal prices down to a level that is too low for producers. We can see this situation if we look at the historical problems with coal depletion in the UK and in Germany.

Coal played an outsized role in the time leading up to, and including, World War II.

Figure 1. Figure by author describing peak coal timing.

History shows that as early coal mines became depleted, the number of hours of labor required to extract a given amount of coal tended to rise significantly. This happened because deeper mines were needed, or mines were needed in areas where there were only thin coal seams. The problem owners of mines experienced was that coal prices did not rise enough to cover their higher labor costs, related to depletion. The issue was really that prices fell too low for coal producers.

Owners of mines found that they needed to cut the wages of miners. This led to strikes and lower coal production. Indirectly, other coal-using industries, such as iron production and bread baking, were adversely affected, leading these industries to cut jobs and wages, as well. In a sense, the big issue was growing wage disparity, because many higher-wage workers and property owners were not affected.

Today, the issue we see is very similar, especially when we look at wages worldwide, because markets are now worldwide. Many workers around the world have very low wages, or no wages at all. As a result, the number of workers worldwide who can afford to purchase goods that require large amounts of oil and coal products for their manufacture and operation, such as vehicles, tends to fall. For example, peak sales of private passenger automobile, worldwide, occurred in 2017. With fewer auto sales (as well as fewer sales of other high-priced goods), it is difficult to keep oil and coal prices high enough for producers. This is very similar to the problems of the 1914 to 1945 era.

Everything that I can see indicates that we are now reaching a time that is parallel to the period between 1914 and 1945. Conflict is one of the major things that a person would expect because each country wants to protect its jobs. Each country also wants to add new jobs that pay well.

In a period parallel to the 1914 to 1945 period, we can also expect pandemics. This happens because the many poor people often cannot afford adequate diets, making them more susceptible to diseases that are easily transmitted. In the Spanish Flu epidemic of 1918-1919, more than 50 million people worldwide died. The equivalent number with today’s world population would be about 260 million. This hugely dwarfs the 3.2 million COVID-19 deaths around the world that we have experienced to date.

[2] If we look at growth in energy supply, relative to the growth in population, precisely the same type of “squeeze” is occurring now as was occurring in the 1914 to 1945 period. This squeeze particularly affects coal and oil supplies.

Figure 2. The sum of red and blue areas on the chart represent average annual world energy consumption growth by 10-year periods. Blue areas represent average annual population growth percentages during these 10-year periods. The red area is determined by subtraction. It represents the amount of energy consumption growth that is “left over” for growth in people’s standards of living. Chart by Gail Tverberg using energy data from Vaclav Smil’s estimates shown in Energy Transitions: History, Requirements and Prospects, together with BP Statistical Data for 1965 and subsequent years.

The chart above is somewhat complex. It looks at how quickly energy consumption has been growing historically, over ten-year periods (sum of red and blue areas). This amount is divided into two parts. The blue area shows how much of this growth in energy consumption was required to provide food, housing and transportation to the growing world population, based on the standards at that time. The red area shows how much growth in energy consumption was “left over” for growth in the standard of living, such as better roads, more vehicles, and nicer homes. Note that GDP growth is not shown in the chart. It likely corresponds fairly closely to total energy consumption growth.

Figure 3, below, shows energy consumption by type of fuel between 1820 and 2010. From this, it is clear that the world’s energy consumption was tiny back in 1820, when most of the world’s energy came from burned biomass. Even at that time, there was a huge problem with deforestation.

Figure 3. World Energy Consumption by Source, based on Vaclav Smil estimates from Energy Transitions: History, Requirements and Prospects and together with BP’s Statistical Review of World Energy data for 1965 and subsequent years. (Wind and solar are included with biofuels.)

Clearly, the addition of coal, starting shortly after 1820, allowed huge changes in the world economy. But by 1910, this growth in coal consumption was flattening out, leading quite possibly to the problems of the 1914-1945 era. The growth in oil consumption after World War II allowed the world economy to recover. Natural gas, hydroelectric and nuclear have been added in recent years, as well, but the amounts have been less significant than those of coal and oil.

We can see how coal and oil have dominated growth in energy supplies in other ways, as well. This is a chart of energy supplies, with a projection of expected energy supplies through 2021 based on estimates of the IEA’s Global Energy Review 2021.

Figure 4. World energy consumption by fuel. Data through 2019 based on information from BP’s Statistical Review of World Energy 2020. Amounts for 2020 and 2021 based on percentage change estimates from IEA’s Global Energy Review 2021.

Oil supplies became a problem in the 1970s. There was briefly a dip in the demand for oil supplies as the world switched from burning oil to the use of other fuels in applications where this could easily be done, such as producing electricity and heating homes. Also, private passenger automobiles became smaller and more fuel efficient. There has been a continued push for fuel efficiency since then. In 2020, oil consumption was greatly affected by the reduction in personal travel associated with the COVID-19 epidemic.

Figure 4, above, shows that world coal consumption has been close to flat since about 2012. This is also evident in Figure 5, below.

Figure 5. World coal production by part of the world, based on data of BP’s Statistical Review of World Energy, 2020.

Figure 5 shows that coal production for the United States and Europe has been declining for a very long time, since about 1988. Before China joined the World Trade Organization (WTO) in 2001, its coal production grew at a moderate pace. After joining the WTO in 2001, China’s coal production grew very rapidly for about 10 years. In about 2011, China’s coal production leveled off, leading to the leveling of world coal production.

Figure 6 shows that recently, growth in the sum of oil and coal consumption has been lagging total energy consumption.

Figure 6. Three-year average annual increase in oil and coal consumption versus three-year average increase in total energy consumption, based on a combination of BP data through 2019 from BP’s Statistical Review of World Energy, 2010 and IEA’s 2020 and 2021 percentage change forecasts, from its Global Energy Review 2021.

We can see from Figure 6 that the only recent time when oil and coal supplies grew faster than energy consumption in total was during a brief period between 2002 and 2007. More recently, oil and coal consumption has been increasingly lagging total energy consumption. For both coal and oil, the problem has been that low prices for producers cause producers to voluntarily drop out of coal or oil production. The reason for this is two-fold: (1) With less oil (or coal) production, perhaps prices might rise, making production more profitable, and (2) Unprofitable oil (or coal) production isn’t really satisfactory for producers.

When determining the required level of profitability for these fuels, there is a need to include the tax revenue that governments require in order to maintain adequate services. This is especially the case with oil exporters, but it is also true in general. Energy products, to be useful, produce an energy surplus that can be used to benefit the rest of the economy. The way that this energy surplus can be transferred to the rest of the economy is by paying relatively high taxes. These taxes allow changes that aid economic growth, such as improvements in roads and schools.

If energy prices are chronically too low (so that an energy product requires a subsidy, rather than paying taxes), this is a sign that the energy product is most likely an energy “sink.” Such a product acts in the direction of pulling the economy down through ever-lower productivity.

[3] Governments have chosen to focus on preventing climate change because, in theory, the changes that are needed to prevent climate change seem to be the same ones needed to cover the contingency of “running out.” The catch is that the indicated changes don’t really work in the scarcity situation we are already facing.

It turns out that the very fuels that we seem to be running out of (coal and oil) are the very ones most associated with high carbon dioxide emissions. Thus, focusing on climate change seems to please everyone. Those who were concerned that we could keep extracting fossil fuels for hundreds of years and, because of this, completely ruin the climate, would be happy. Those who were concerned about running out of fossil fuels would be happy, as well. This is precisely the kind of solution that politicians prefer.

The catch is that we used coal and oil first because, in a very real sense, they are the “best” fuels for our needs. All of the other fuels, even natural gas, are in many senses inferior. Natural gas has the problem that it is very expensive to transport and store. Also, methane, which makes up the majority of natural gas, is itself a gas that contributes to global warming. It tends to leak from pipelines and from ships attempting to transport it. Thus, it is doubtful that it is much better from a global warming perspective than coal or oil.

So-called renewable fuels tend to be very damaging to the environment in ways other than CO2 emissions. This point is made very well in the new book Bright Green Lies by Derrick Jensen, Lierre Keith and Max Wilbert. It makes the point that renewable fuels are not an attempt to save the environment. Instead, they are trying to save our current industrial civilization using approaches that tend to destroy the environment. Cutting down forests, even if new trees are planted in their place, is especially detrimental. Alice Friedemann, in her new book, Life after Fossil Fuels: A Reality Check on Alternative Fuels, points out the high cost of these alternatives and their dependence on fossil fuel energy.

We are right now in a huge scarcity situation which is starting to cause conflicts of many kinds. Even if there were a way of producing these types of alternative energy cheaply enough, they are coming far too late and in far too small quantities to make a difference. They also don’t match up with our current coal and oil uses, adding a layer of time and expense for conversion that needs to be included in any model.

[4] What we really have is a huge conflict problem due to inadequate energy supplies for today’s world population. The powers that be are trying to hide this problem by publishing only their preferred version of the truth.

The situation that we are really facing is one that often goes under the name of “collapse.” It is a problem that many civilizations have faced in the past when a given population has outgrown its resource base.

Needless to say, the issue of collapse is not a story any politician wants to tell its citizens. Instead, we are told over and over, “Everything is fine. Any energy problem will be handled by the solutions scientists are finding.” The catch is that scientists were not told the correct problem to solve. They were told about a distant problem. To make the problem easier to solve, high prices and subsidies seemed to be acceptable. The problem they were asked to solve is very different from our real energy problem today.

Many people think that taxing the rich and giving the proceeds to the poor can solve our problem, but this doesn’t really solve the problem for a couple of reasons. One of the issues is that our scarcity issue is really a worldwide problem. Higher taxation of the rich in a few rich countries does nothing for the many problems of poor people in countries such as Lebanon, Yemen, Venezuela and India. Furthermore, taking money from the rich doesn’t really fix scarcity problems. Rich people don’t really eat a vastly disproportionate amount of food or drink more water, for example.

A detail that most of us don’t think about is that the military of many different countries has been very much aware of the potential conflict situation that is now occurring. They are aware that a “hot war” would require huge use of fossil fuel energy, so they have been trying to find alternative approaches. One approach military groups have been working on is the use of bioweapons of various kinds. In fact, some groups might even contemplate starting a pandemic. Another approach that might be used is computer viruses to disrupt the systems of other countries.

Needless to say, the powers that be do not want the general population to hear about issues of these kinds. We find ourselves with narrower and narrower news reports that provide only the version of the truth that politicians and news media want us to read. Citizens who have developed the view, “All I need to do to find out the truth is read my home town newspaper,” are likely to encounter more and more surprises, as conflict situations escalate.

About Gail Tverberg

My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
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3,735 Responses to How the World’s Energy Problem Has Been Hidden

  1. MG says:

    I was thinking about the skyrocketing briths and deaths of the Limits to Growth after achieving the peak.

    The accumulation of genetic mutations could be the reason of the skyrocketing births and deaths. But, as we see now, during the pandemic, there is no births growth, just the deaths growth.

    The depletion is a limit that prevents birth growth. The result of the population growth is the decline of hygiene, so there is also this mechanism of hygiene control, that prevents further population growth.

    It is not just the food or energy, but also hygiene, which poses a serious limit. Maybe hygiene is the very limit, above all other limits. The deterioration in nutrition or insufficient energy per capita trigger the hygiene catastrophe.

    • Bobby says:

      Good point on hygiene. Maybe you could also use the term pollution, consider domestic smoke and its effects on public health during the winter months and adding to detriment. Everyone wanting to stay warm in their individual home collectively undermines everyone’s heath with domestics smoke, The bigger the town, the bigger the problem the less people can avoid the pollution

      • Good points. Even cooking by burning biomass puts out a lot of harmful particles.

        • MG says:

          Hygiene separates human species from other species.

          Hygiene = clean water + energy

          The lack of hygiene destroys human species.

          Some people think about the past as the age of the lack of hygiene. The fact is that the lack of clean water or energy creates eras when the hygiene is compromised and the new supply of clean water and energy can solve this deteriorated situation, caused mainly by the human population growth or the coming of water or energy scarcity.

          The restoration of hygiene is also the part of the religious cults, like the christening using water as the symbol of rebirth.

          Maintaining the hygiene is a typical human activity. The humans need to maintain hygiene, they can survive times of compromised hygiene, but only temporarily.

          When you are poor, you can eat less or you can have the torn clothes and by dirty. But when you are too hungry and your clothes are too deteriorated and you are too dirty, you become the prey of other species like bacteria or viruses.

          Maintaining the hygiene includes also activities towards plants like grass trimming, weeds eradication, the cutting of trees and bushes. Hygiene is a controlled destruction of other species, the creation of free space for the humans.

          The power of the United States after the domestic oil depletion was saved by the genetically modified agricultural production, which allowed for the very cheap food production, thus allowing the United States to maintain the control over other species like the weeds, despite the per capita energy decline.

          The energy decline does not have to be a catastrophy unless the humans can maintain the hygiene. Which is possible only with much lower population.

          We can have food surpluses, but the compromised hygiene destroys our population.

          • hygiene separates us from other animals, but maybe not in the way you suggest.

            I remember getting my kids their first rabbit hutch. and just on an idea, I cut a 6”square hole in one corner and covered it with wire netting, and put a bucket under it. the rabbits used it from day one.
            I’d never seen that before, yet it was just so obvious.

            Same with all other critters, they keep their nests clean

            Only humans seem to congregate in clusters where wastes accumulate close to where we live in many cases

            • MG says:

              It is the lack of clean water and energy that causes waste accumulation.

              When you do not clean a rabbit hutch, it becomes full of dirt and a good place for viruses etc.

            • I was just pointing out that rabbits have an instinct for waste disposal, I didn’t think it necessary to go into detail about cleaning out hutches etc

            • doomphd says:

              not all social animals are so clean. I’ve witnessed penguins in Antarctica who have shitted on each other. where they nest the guano piles up. so-called “insular phosphate” deposits on oceanic islands are ancient nesting places for extinct seabirds. they have naturally made an ore deposit for humans to exploit.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              We had some manure for the garden in a pile out back… our dog enjoyed rolling about in it …

            • Tim Grove says:

              The well-brought-up middle-class dogs love rolling in other animal’s droppings. The working-class dog’s love eating them.

            • a reflection of certain frequenters of OFW wouldn’t you say?

          • MG says:

            The maintaining hygiene includes also such things as refraining from promiscuity.

            When you are old, your biggest problem is maintaining hygiene: you can still eat, but the waste removal is a problem, as you do not have energy for that anymore.

            • reminds me of the classic line from Sleepers ( I think.)

              Woody Allen is asked if he thinks sex is dirty.

              ‘Only if its any good’ he replies.

          • In the day of the hunter-gatherers, the low population tended to very little build up of human waste. It was moving together into towns and cities that created a problem. The larger and more dense the city, the bigger the problem was.

            If human waste could be scattered widely enough over the area where the food was gathered, it would mix with waste from other species and act to fertilize the plants growing there. Also, cooking food tended to kill germs. Heating water was a major way of killing germs in water.

            The Chinese seem not to have much of a tradition of eating salads, because of the problem of trying to get uncooked food clean enough. I imagine that there are quite a few other areas that use either heat or alcohol to kill bacteria that might be a problem to humans.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            Humans lived like other animals… but then they congregated in cities… where their filth clogged the streets… and they were exposed to diseases related to overcrowding… cholera… typhus etc…

            Hunter gatherers don’t use soap….

          • JMS says:

            In my not very humble opinion this is a truck load of BS. There’s no real science on the theory of virus and bacteria as agents of disease. Pasteur was a fraudster. Besides, pure logic is enough to conclude that if virus and bacteria were a threat to homo sapiens we wouldn’t be here now., since we positively live in a sea of bacteria and virus.
            Our paleolithic ancestors had no notion of Germs & Virus and managed to thrive and survive through millenia, albeit living in permanent close contact with dirt, pus, rotten meat and all variety of feces, How’s that? Germ theory is a mega publicity stunt of oil and chemical industries.

            • JMS says:

              Which does not mean, of course, that hygiene is not important for good health. Getting involved with the toxins present in feces or dead meat isn’t a very good idea.

            • Tsubion says:

              One day everyone will talk like this.

              It’s what Big Pharma fears the most.

              It’s a racket… much like everything else.

    • DJ says:

      There is no *thought* behind the increasing birth rates in LTG, just that they observered that “poorer people have more babies”.

      Most likely birth rates will in reality drop after peak affordability in developed countries, because you could guard your standard of living by not sharing income with offspring.

      I suspect death rates won’t increase that much either. It takes very little keeping most around to 70yo.

  2. Harry McGibbs says:

    Central banks get serious on digital currencies:

    “The Chinese are trialling it. The UK Treasury and the Bank of England have a task force on it. So, after years of talk, central bank digital currency has suddenly become serious business…

    “CBDCs could boost government coffers, displace costlier taxation and improve the efficiency of payments.”

    https://www.ft.com/content/faa29abd-aa2e-479b-9706-79ee16be9e35

    • Harry McGibbs says:

      “A 10-part docuseries on prepping and survival by Revealed Films is set to launch on May 25. The series talks about how to prepare for a global financial collapse.”

      [A sign of the times. I just know Fast Eddie will be tuning in].

      https://newswire.net/newsroom/pr/00203413-survival-prepping-strategy-global-collapse-disaster-readiness-series-released.html

      • Preparation for collapse would seem to be a growth industry for now, despite Main Street Media’s attempts to hide the problems. Gardening has become the new hobby of choice, for example.

      • Hubbs says:

        Just like a pandemic, the “Crunch” as James Wesley, Rawls of Survival Bog.com described the term in his first book called “Patriots. A Novel of Survival in the Coming Collapse,” I don’t think there will be any real effective solutions until population density decreases. Politically, a third rail. We are trapped between a moral dilemma of who will or should be allowed to survive and the practical reality that it is indeed a finite world of resources, especially with depletion of the one time “gift” bestowed upon humanity with the creation of fossil fuels (earth’s natural “battery” that took millions of years to charge via formation of hydrocarbons) and the soon to be coming the insidious depletion of another “fossil” source, that of underwater aquifers, even as what fresh surface water we have gets increasing contaminated.
        Naturally, people from western societies will be totally oblivious to the plight of those from the third world, yet due to the low complexity of their lifestyles, they too will reach a stable number after a die off.

        I have taken my 17 yr old daughter to numerous gun training courses if only to give her a fighting chance. Here in the US, things could get really ugly and a faster faster than our normalcy bias could ever allow us to anticipate. I am afraid all these women and newbies who show up at these training courses with only a handgun will be very surprised when they realize that in a society crawling with handguns, success in confiscating (fighting over) resources , food water etc., which is what it will boil down to, will require gangs armed with rifles. If you have only a handgun and I have a rifle , you will lose every time. If I am solo with a rifle against a gang with rifles, I will lose every time- it is only a matter of time. I can’t stay awake 24-7. Even little things such as disposing of your waste from your well stocked hideout will become problematic the minute you step out the door to dispose of it. I find it so quaint how preppers babble about having a “bug out” bag, the new security blanket of the times, or create it as a false sense of security, and as Gail says, has spawned a whole “prepper” industry. The ultimate reality may be more like living in the WWII Warsaw ghetto or in the rubble of Stalingrad when the time comes.

        • Dennis L. says:

          We live as a group, if guns were the answer Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan would be a paradise.

          Were there gardens in the Warsaw Ghetto, or at Stalingard? I don’t know, suspect not.

          No easy answers.

          Dennis L.

          • NomadicBeer says:

            For some americans, guns are always the answer. Witness the amount of guns/ammo bought before a hurricane.
            In terms of survival guns are no more relevant than toilet paper – useful for certain purposes, yes but most of the world can and did survive without them.

            On the other hand, real communities are almost nonexistent in US and that does not bode well for the future. I am not even going to bother to define community – most americans cannot imagine them and most people from the third world cannot imagine living without them.

          • Xabier says:

            I read an interesting tale of feuds over land in the tribal areas bordering Afghanistan.

            A woman, her sisters and daughters were able to farm their plot without having it stolen, because her very unpleasant neighbours knew that if they took the land from her, her brother would return and have a go at killing as many of them as possible. He had killed before, and was a very good shot.

            One needs family and community plus the will and means to kill without hesitation.

            When there is a famine, those tribal men feed themselves and their older sons first, wives next, and any daughters last or not at all, for that reason.

            Just as we will probably have to use force to retain our property when the Re-set gang tries to expropriate it, as appears to be on the cards.

            • EnergyShifts.net says:

              Indeed. I have to say however, that we (people in the West) are in more trouble than we think, or know, and let me explain why – because we don’t know ourselves. The dark truth is that the average person will basically look away (I’m being polite here, some would even revel in it) when his ‘neighbor’s’ land is being expropriated and his family’s (wife and daughters) lives are under threat. It’s only when his/her own own land and family are potentially at risk that the average person would start to sit up and pay attention.

              However, they will continue to ignore their ‘neighbor’s’ plight, while trying to figure out how they can avert the same thing happening to themselves. Why did this situation develop for them? Because when the bad situation (expropriation without compensation, danger to families on farms and homesteads) started to develop for the ‘neighbor’, they simply looked away, instead of paying attention, instead of taking notes and instead of speaking out about what was happening to the neighbor loudly to avoid it arriving at their own door-step. (And who could blame them? Such an unpopular neighbor…!)
              WHO is this ‘neigbor I’m referring to? Mum’s the word…

              “First they came …
              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_
              (…for the Boers?”)

            • “First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
              Because I was not a socialist.

              Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
              Because I was not a trade unionist.

              Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
              Because I was not a Jew.

              Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

              Now it seems to be the vaccinated vs the unvaccinated. The rich versus the poor. The white versus the people of color. The immigrants versus those whose ties to the country began earlier.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Hopefully it does not come to the DelusiSTANIS against the GENIUSES…… I don’t like the odds.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              First they came for the DelusiSTANIS…. and the Geniuses laughed…

              And then they didn’t come for the geniuses… why would they?

        • Xabier says:

          Best gift possible for your daughter, might save her from rape at least – I pray it may never come to such times.

          Handling weapons the right way also teaches discipline and breeds maturity.

          How to use a knife at close quarters is also worth knowing.

          At least you can still get hold of decent equipment of all kinds in the US, not so here!

          • using a knife at close quarters needs a certain mindset, I mean shoving it into a living human body inches away deliberately

            I doubt if many of us would have it

            • Xabier says:

              Most likely true, Norman! (And welcome back).

              Therefore, those who could do it have an advantage of surprise.

              With few guns in the UK (except in the hands of criminals!) one would have few other options.

              Not even pepper spray is available – but brief thought suggests some viable substitutes.

              We are apparently meant to offer ourselves up as unresisting sacrifices.

            • ty for your welcome Xavier

              you can legally own a 12g in uk, unless you are already known as a cereal killer

            • Fast Eddy says:

              You stab one… there will be a thousand more coming…. worth re-watching The Road… or re-reading the book as that has a much more detailed description of the human abattoir…

              When there is no food… MR DNA …. will seek… other options….

            • Ed says:

              As we learned in Stand on Zanzibar by John Brunner, 1968, there is always a weapon. The ash tray, a can of beans (popular with BLM folks).

            • JJ says:

              Defensive use of a edged weapon comes quite easily. The pass and trap of a grappling style becomes a pass and cut of the attacking arm or leg. This is much easier to implement than the decision to shoot someone. Atypically the distance where you must shoot someone or risk having the firearm taken from you is considered 7 yards or so. This is a very cognitive decision and a hard one. Cutting a striking arm is all muscle memory. Force can be escalated artery’s avoided on the first cut. Basically you are not trying to kill just cut whatever is launched at you. This means you dont have to try to maneuver to get into range for your kick or punch. That makes the system very easy to implement. Defensive edged weapon is not the same as military edged weapon usage or street edged weapon where the kill and point of the weapon is emphasized. Defensive use of a edged weapon however has grave legal consequences. It is always considered lethal force even if the injury inflicted is not lethal. It is more easily justified in the courtroom by a 100 pound woman defending against a attack by a 250 pound man. A edged weapon is regarded as a reprehensible regardless of circumstances by many. Like norman edged weapon bad but a most certainly lethal wound from a 00 9 pellet 12 ga good. This is not a uncommon prejudice. Edged weapons must only be deployed in the gravest extreme and their use must be weighed against probable criminal prosecution regardless of gender. Sadly the prejudice that only psychos deploy knives good people use guns extends to many prosecuting attorneys. Because of this sadly for the most part a knife is not in my pocket most days. Nor a glock on my hip. This is not solely a tactical decision. I dislike hiding lethal weapons about my person as i interact. Home is different story both morally and legally. Situational awareness and conflict avoidance is generally much more valuable than any weapon. Except for that one time… None the less intent is very powerful. Focusing on avoiding conflict, paying attention to your gut, being aware of your surroundings and understanding basic unarmed self defense is my choice.

            • I agree

              My meaning was that not many of us would have the instinctive reflex to follow it through to the logical conclusion

          • Fast Eddy says:

            Hopefully the CEP comes off as planned…. the rape, violence, cannibalism, radiation poisoning and overall suffering will be kept to a minimum….

          • jj says:

          • Tim Groves says:

            You might want to train her to become a geisha.They are not at all squeamish about where they stick sharp implements.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Chapter 44 or 45 A People’s Tragedy details how the Cossacks gang raped pre-pubescent J. ewish girls repeatedly then cut them to pieces….

              When BAU goes… the Gloves Come Off… it will go very bad for any females who survive the CEP…

              Keep in mind there is no precedent for what is to come … global famine… total anarchy… 8B people….

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Try this https://www.quora.com/What-would-the-world-be-like-if-society-collapsed but with no electricity, petrol, food, or medicine…..

          Thanks but no thanks… although there won’t be Alexa or Bieber or Facebook… so it’s not all bad

      • Fast Eddy says:

        ‘how to prepare’

        Long past believing there is any point in preparing….

    • Fast Eddy says:

      We already have digital currency — I just transferred 50k from an account in HK to an account in NZ …

      I transferred 20k of that from a NZ account to another NZ account (for a spa pool where I will relax and enjoy the End of the World)… the other 30k is a slush fund for booze beer and broads (it’s a 6 seater!). I may use a bit of that to buy a diesel gen set so the pool will function when the power goes out

      Does anyone actually use cash anymore? I cannot remember the last time I paid for anything with cash

      • Kowalainen says:

        Bartering -> shiny metal -> watermarked paper -> encrypted digital -> proof of work -> proof of knowledge

        It is a matter of convenience when it comes to transactions. Who wants to lug around crusty lumps of “value” when trust is enough? For sure not me.

        • Proof of knowledge may go downhill quickly. A computer programmer’s skills become out of date quickly. A person who has had a stroke may experience a permanent mental setback. A person with Alzheimers’ disease may in theory, be knowledgeable, but as a practical matter it won’t matter much.

          • Kowalainen says:

            For sure everybody eventually gets slower with age. After all, given enough time we’ll get so slow that we stop moving and thinking altogether.

            Becoming a good programmer is a lifetime of work. Trial and error, mostly error. Many engineers grok coding, few people knows the art of a system.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Not a dime of that cash will ever see the light of day…. 100% digital from end to end (unless the broads demand cash…. I’d have to ask Bill about that…)

          • Kowalainen says:

            I guess we’ll soon get BillGcoin (the Epsteincoin unfortunately went out of circulation). The doge will soon be sent to the moon and Elon won’t accept Bitcoin. Bill better lean forward and get those hax0red M$ Azure servers hashing furiously. Chanel handbags isn’t on the cheap and his hoes need those.

            Crypto is excellent for shady transactions. Not that manipulated and inflated fiat is any better for that matter.

  3. Harry McGibbs says:

    “…are we in a housing bubble? At the start of 2021, the average UK house price relative to earnings of first-time buyers — which indicates how affordable properties are — rose to almost record levels…

    “The UK is not an exception. House prices have risen in many western countries despite most of them experiencing severe economic downturns.”

    https://www.ft.com/content/9fdd1157-55f5-41b7-ae9c-24f68c62a194

  4. Harry McGibbs says:

    “The world economy will fare better this year than previous projections indicated, but a slow roll-out of COVID-19 vaccines in many developing countries will hamper their economic recoveries, the United Nations said on Tuesday.

    “Global economic growth is expected to reach 5.4% this year, bouncing back from 2020’s contraction of 3.6%… However, the growth outlook in some nations in South Asia, sub-Saharan Africa and Latin America remains “fragile and uncertain”, due to slow vaccination progress, said the report by the U.N. Department of Economic and Social Affairs.”

    https://news.trust.org/item/20210511145246-02k08/

  5. Harry McGibbs says:

    “China’s credit expansion slowed in April as the central bank guided loan growth to more moderate levels following a record first quarter…

    “The central bank is reining in credit growth this year as it seeks to slowly wind back pandemic-fueled stimulus.”

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-12/china-april-credit-growth-slows-after-a-record-quarter-for-loans

    • Harry McGibbs says:

      “Census data released Tuesday showed that China’s total population rose by 5.8% over the past decade — the slowest pace of growth since at least the 1960s. It also showed the country’s labor force is getting smaller.”

      https://edition.cnn.com/2021/05/12/business/china-census-demographics-meituan-intl-hnk/index.html

      • Harry McGibbs says:

        “China bets on productivity over population to drive its economy:

        “To ensure economic growth doesn’t slow in line with the population drag, Beijing will need to undertake a challenging shift in its growth model, rapidly increasing spending on pensions and health care while maintaining a high-level of corporate and state investment in order to upgrade its vast industrial sector.”

        [That will be tough with an ever worsening mismatch between energy production and consumption].

        https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-11/china-bets-on-productivity-over-population-to-drive-its-economy

      • Minority Of One says:

        Interesting data on population growth of China in, of all places, Wikipedia.

        Total Fertility Rate
        1970 5.75
        1980 2.32
        2020 1.30
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_China

        Other countries 2020
        England 1.66 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_England
        Scotland(2019) 1.37 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_Scotland
        Italy 1.24 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Italy
        USA 1.638 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States

        Replacement rate: 2.2

        • Ed says:

          This is good. But only works if the borders are closed to the unlimited masses from Africa, India, Muslin-lands, Brazil.

        • Those who are very educated tend to have a long time between generations (children with mothers in their 30s or 40s) compared to those with less education. In many countries, the gap between generations has been rising. This makes the effect on population growth even greater.

        • Mirror on the wall says:

          China is in demographic collapse, and the CCP does not seem to have any policy ideas beyond mimicking the failing measures taken in other societies.

          One might have supposed that CCP would use the state to reproduce the population, rather than rely on the traditional family, but they are perhaps ideologically a lot more straight laced and conformist than their Marxist rhetoric might suggest.

          They may as well be living in the Middle Ages if they are going to rely on the traditional family to avert demographic collapse.

          My guess is that CCP will completely fail to avoid demographic collapse, the same as all other more advanced industrialised countries. They simply do not have the ideological wherewithal to avoid it.

          https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202105/1223208.shtml

          > …. Liang Jianzhang, an economics professor at Peking University, told the Global Times that China’s fertility rate will continue to drop in the coming years, and may become the world’s lowest.

          “According to the existing data, in the next 10 years, the number of women aged 22 to 35, which is the childbearing period, will drop by more than 30 percent compared with the present data. Without strong policy intervention, China’s newborn population is likely to fall below 10 million in the next few years, and its fertility rate will be lower than Japan’s, perhaps the lowest in the world,” Liang predicted.

          …. Removing the family planning policy will not be enough to avert a fall in China’s total population, or prevent China from becoming another Japan, demographers said, noting that China should come up with more measures to encourage childbirth, such as subsidizing couples who choose to have more than one child.

          …. If China removes the family planning policy and encourages births with strong incentive policies, learning from countries like Japan and South Korea, China may slow the decline of population and avoid the aging issue, Huang said.

          Tomoo Marukawa, a professor at University of Tokyo, told the Global Times that Japan has made great efforts in reversing its population problem, such as establishing more kindergartens in big cities like Tokyo, and subsidizing couples who paid all by themselves for fertility treatment.

        • Mirror on the wall says:

          One has to laugh at the fertility rate of Italy, the centre of the ‘pro-life’ RCC, 1.2 and one of the lowest in the world.

          Then again:

          > The Vatican City is the smallest country in the world with a permanent population of only about 1000 inhabitants. The people living in the Vatican City are bishops and clergymen so it’s no surprise the birth rate is zero.

      • According to the article:

        China’s labor force could shrink by about 5% over the next decade, according to calculations by Yue Su, an economist at the Economist Intelligence Unit in London. “The likely consequent drop in the labor force, which has been falling since 2017, will place a cap on China’s potential economic growth,” Yue said Tuesday. “The demographic dividend that propelled the country’s economic rise over recent decades is set to dissipate quickly.”

        Not only will there be fewer workers, there will also be fewer people of childbearing age. Many of these people grew up in one child families. They will tend to have small families, especially with the high cost of living. The population may shrink and shrink.

        • Mirror on the wall says:

          Also, CCP has focused its urbanisation strategy on large cities, which have a lower fertility rate than smaller cities. And women do not want to spoil their career paths, to which they have committed, with kids.

          It looks like CCP has given absolutely zero attention to demographic collapse, and it still does not have a clue how to avoid it, bar mimicking other failures. Japan sees itself as in a demographic crisis, but Chinese thinkers are proposing failed Japanese measures as a model. Completely hopeless.

          China’s births just fell by 18% in one year!!!

          • Tsubion says:

            Why is this a problem?

            China has too many people.

            India – same.

            • Mirror on the wall says:

              ‘Too many’ relative to what?

              Do you suppose that CCP has finite world perspectives or that they are just incompetent?

              They base their entire raison d’etre on economic development, and all along they have neglected demographics, which will undermine them going forward.

              I suppose that one could argue that human incompetence evens itself out in the end. Personally I am not inclined to give good marks to that.

              Of course, I do not deceive myself that it really ‘matters’. It is what it is.

              Some days, one really does feel like, ‘let it all burn’. Like any is ‘too many’.

              Hopefully the sun will come out and change that mood. : )

  6. Harry McGibbs says:

    “US Consumer prices rose sharply again in March and drove the rate of inflation to the highest level in nearly 13 years, signaling greater stress on the economy as businesses grapple with supply shortages that are raising the cost of many goods and services.

    “The consumer price index soared 0.8% in April to match the biggest monthly increase since 2009, the government said Wednesday. Economists polled by Dow Jones and The Wall Street Journal had forecast a milder 0.2% advance.

    “The rate of inflation over the past year jumped to 4.2% from 2.6% in the prior month — the highest level since 2008.”

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/u-s-inflation-climbs-in-april-to-the-highest-level-in-13-years-cpi-shows-11620823628

    • Harry McGibbs says:

      “Rarely in recent decades have the inflationary warning signs flashed quite as strongly as they are now, and rarely have central bankers appeared quite so determined to ignore them…

      “For how long central banks can get away with this mix of rising inflationary pressures but still rock bottom interest rates remains to be seen. One thing is for sure; governments – and the economy at large – are already so heavily indebted after more than a year of Covid spending that they cannot afford any significant rise in borrowing costs.”

      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2021/05/12/inflation-warning-signs-flashing-red-central-banks-dont-seem/

      • The inflation warnings seem to be pushing the US stock market down. The Dow was down 681 today, and well over 400 yesterday.

        The Russell 2000 (small company stocks) was down 3.26% today. Things look worrisome.

  7. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Turkey’s Karadeniz, which supplies electricity to Lebanon from power barges, said on Tuesday Beirut must halt legal action to seize its vessels and sort out arrears or it will shut down supplies to the country that is mired in a financial crisis.”

    https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/turkish-firm-threatens-cut-power-supply-lebanon-ministry-says-2021-05-11/

  8. StarvingLion says:

    Poor Norman Pagett, his little fairy tale of space travel cannot work.

    Is Fire possible in a vacuum?

  9. Fast Eddy says:

    What ‘s happening here?

    https://youtu.be/bdQHKf48Mfw?t=1914

  10. yup

    and my pointy hat is perfect for puncturing the ego balloons of pseudo intellectuals

  11. StarvingLion says:

    Eddy, Eddy…

    Apollo 16 Stagehand Video

  12. StarvingLion says:

    Eddy can’t deal with the depth of the fraud. “They lied about everything”.

    ISS Hoax – The International Fake Station

    • think of it as keeping up the eddycount

      this is his only audience

      watch the video to the point of ‘punch the loony’

      that’s what would happen in RL

      safer this way

      • Tim Groves says:

        How do they keep the ISS clean and smelling of roses, Norman? And especially the lavvies? Do they occasionally open the windows to let in some fresh air?

        • a question beneath you Tim—I would have expected you to come up with something better than that

          I would have thought air filtration and various scrubbing technology was well established enough to deal with that

          when I took a 2 month break from here–I honestly thought the moon scammers would have moved on–but no, the same nonsense keeps going round and round the whispering galleries of what has become a conspiratorium

          so much out there more relevant to world affairs

          shame really

          • They moved on but came back. Wait a bit, and the moon issues will disappear, and something else will become more important.

            • Jarvis says:

              I hope you’re right Gail, these posters are becoming very tiresome!

            • I am thinking that as well. You may notice that some of the posts you saw earlier were deleted. I have been doing more deleting today than commenting.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              No worries… Norm’s on the right time zone to see them before they come down 🙂

            • Fast Eddy says:

              If Norm and Friends would just accept that we have a leaked video from NASA that shows the astronauts faking the lunar mission …. we could move on…. (to 911?) hahahahaha

              I wonder… Norm and Friends… do you also believe that Oswald shot JFK?

            • everybody knows that JFK came back from his own future, through a time warp and shot himself

            • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

              uh oh, now it’s NineOneOne?

            • Hideaway says:

              There is not much point in commenting these days Gail, it looks like the loonies have taken over the comments section, such a shame..

            • I will work harder on deleting/not letting through some of the substandard/repetitious comments.

            • it’s important I think to read some of the crazier stuff–because that represents a sort of window on the way much of the world at large thinks and acts. (and by default contributes to the mess we are in.)—but absolutely not all of it. ty Gail!!

              Anyone capable of self determination can just laugh it off, and work out that none of it manifested itself until online media exchange became available en masse. And all of it is childish attention-seeking.

              However, it just becomes tiresome. People walk away. Better things to do.

              The downside to it is, that it is self affirming, and self-attracting to those of a like mind. So it becomes loony haven, to people who have no audience elsewhere because no one will stay around them long enough to listen.

              An aggregation of ‘like minds’ suddenly appeared on Jan 6th. outside the Capitol. They too were utterly certain of plots hoaxes and conspiracies. Their dear leader had told them so. They were eager to believe.

              This is what collective hysteria brings. History books are full of it. The German people are inherently decent. They went mad 80 years ago because their dear leader told them to. How? by spreading conspiracies.
              Goebells saw to it that every German household had a cheap radio.

              I hope the correlation is not lost there.

              As I’ve pointed out before, crazies used to be on street corners, shouting at anyone they saw within earshot. People hurried by, embarrassed, not for themselves, but for the shouters.

              Now they have an iPad. Mass media has given these otherwise harmless people a means to cause serious harm and distress.

              Hence the bible-waving loony on that youtube video. Someone clearly mentally disturbed, needing his meds. I am more disturbed reading comments on here that affirm he was ‘normal’—- Yikes!!
              But he now has the means to spread his idiocy around the world. And like minded idiots nod in enthusiastic agreement.

              And act as clickbait.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Yes it is a bit irritating having to deal with these fools who continue to insist we have landed on the moon when there is overwhelming evidence that we have never flown out of low earth orbit.

              It gets to the point where I have to keep a library of saved links to the specific parts of American Moon and post them to set the fools straight. You’d think once would be enough but nope — you have to pound their thick skulls with these links over and over and still…. they keep coming back with their nonsensical comments

            • like I said in an earlier comment

              Tiresome

            • it is politically incorrect to call loonies loonies these days

              mentally challenged may be acceptable, or having alternative intelligence, (which is essential to cope with alternative facts)

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Speaking of Re-TArded Moreons….. someone just passed this to me:

              In 2016, Eagle Brewing was feted as one of New Zealand’s finest craft beer makers, winning 40 gold medals and Best in Class awards in the New World Beer & Cider Awards.

              But Gaughan’s comments have had a crippling effect on the business as stockists turned against it in droves.

              Keith Galbraith, owner of Galbraith’s Alehouse in Grafton, Auckland, said he was made aware of Gaughan’s comments on Thursday evening and immediately decided to remove all products from Eagle Brewing from the pub’s menu.

              “I just thought what he said was shocking and sickening, and I do not want to be associated with anyone who holds those kinds of views,” he said.

              Galbraith said he did not inform Eagle Brewing directly of his decision as he had no interest in dealing with the company any further.

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/pou-tiaki/125136622/brewery-owner-behind-racist-facebook-rant-says-hes-deeply-sorry

              This is the problem when you combine MORONISM with Social Media …. the MOREONS just cannot help themselves… they MUST post their every thought for the world to see.. because they think they are so awesome…

              https://youtu.be/o4ZeTdOjLUk

              I wonder if I offered him a $1 for the business … bring in the PR Team to let everyone know Eagle is under new (GENIUS) ownership and management …. if he’d go for it?

  13. Fast Eddy says:

    Before Bill Gates was known as an elitist nerd masquerading as a leading vaccine expert, the Microsoft co-founder was a hard-partying womanizer who recruited local strippers to attend naked pool parties, and had major issues with infidelity even after marrying Melinda, according to a biography.

    The Microsoft co-founder’s wild lifestyle was well known among his inner circle — but newspapers like the New York Times hid the unflattering reports to continue getting “spoon-fed stories,” James Wallace wrote in the 1997 biography, “Overdrive: Bill Gates and the Race to Control Cyberspace.”

    They “didn’t report on the wild bachelor parties that Microsoft’s boyish chairman would throw in his Seattle home, for which Gates would visit one of Seattle’s all-nude nightclubs and hire dancers to come to his home and swim naked with his friends in his indoor pool,” Wallace wrote.

    It was a continuation from his time at Harvard, where he “did like to frequent Boston’s notorious Combat Zone, with its porn shows, strip joints, and prostitutes,” Wallace wrote. -NY Post

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/his-womanizing-was-well-known-flood-gates-open-biographer-details-microsoft-founders

    Who would have thought…. I bet he gets near pure blow and the best pills!

  14. Mirror on the wall says:

    Ouch! Trillions!

    > New York Wins From Brexit’s $3.3 Trillion Hit to One Key Market

    The City of London lost 2.3 trillion pounds ($3.3 trillion) of its lucrative derivatives trading business in March alone, with Wall Street trading platforms gaining the most from Brexit.

    U.S. swap-execution facilities took market share in trades in euros, pounds and dollars at London’s expense that month compared to last July, while venues in the European Union also gained, according to an estimate by Deloitte and IHS Markit Ltd.

    In March, U.K. platforms hosted about 10% of euro-based swaps carried out on venues — down from almost 40% in July, the month the researchers picked to illustrate pre-Brexit activity.

    The multitrillion-dollar notional value of lost trades is the latest tally of the mounting costs for London’s financial industry since the U.K. left the EU at the start of the year. The EU blocked firms based inside its borders from using London derivatives platforms, pushing many into the U.S. where they can continue to trade.

    The report follows estimates that more than $1 trillion in assets have moved to Europe, with more expected to follow. JPMorgan Chase & Co. Chief Executive Officer Jamie Dimon recently said that the bank, which expects another $200 billion of its assets to move to the bloc this year, could ultimately shift all its bankers servicing EU clients out of London.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-11/new-york-wins-from-brexit-s-3-3-trillion-hit-to-u-k-swap-trade

    • Mirror on the wall says:

      Am I surprised that the Tory controlled UK press is not reporting this?

      > The City of London suffered a loss of £2.3 trillion in a single month in its lucrative derivatives trading market, with Wall Street trading platforms the ones that benefitted.

      The figures come only a few months after Bank of England governor Andrew Bailey warned that the EU would likely try to snatch away trillions of pounds of derivatives clearing from London’s major clearing houses in a series of moves that could threaten financial stability.

      Since the UK left the European Union, the latter has blocked firms based inside the borders of the EU, from using London derivatives platforms – pushing most into the U.S. so they can continue to trade.

      https://www.cityam.com/derivatives-hit-city-of-london-suffers-2-3-trillion-brexit-loss-in-a-single-month/

    • Mirror on the wall says:

      I’ve got the words, I’ve got the tune,
      I’ve even been rehearsin’ under the moon!
      But I got nobody to hear my song,
      I’m hummin’ to myself!

    • Mirror on the wall says:

      I said that there would be consequences to the playground jingoistic nonsense in the waters around Jersey on the eve of the May 2021 elections. The Tories still think that they live in some imaginary world where they will not be held to the terms of the Brexit withdrawal agreement, and that they can just wave the Unionist ‘jack’ and get what they want.

      ‘Hi, my name is Jack.’

      ‘Whatever, my name is the withdrawal agreement.’

      > France to hold up EU-UK financial services deal over fisheries

      Paris has said it will delay a European Union financial services deal with Britain until Prime Minister Boris Johnson grants European fishermen fair access to UK waters, a source familiar with the French move said on Wednesday.

      “We’ve made a link between the two,” the source said.

      The post-Brexit dispute over access to the UK’s rich fishing grounds last week saw France and Britain send patrol vessels to the Channel island of Jersey as French trawlers protested there.

      Brexit issues were all related and not looked at in isolation, French government spokesman Gabriel Attal told a news briefing when asked if Paris was holding up the financial services deal as a lever in the fishing dispute.

      A second source, an EU diplomat, said Britain was failing to adhere to the terms of a deal governing its post-Brexit trade ties with the EU. There can be no progress in other areas if these are not resolved, the person added.

      “It’s not just France and it’s not just fishing,” said the European diplomat. “Britain must fully apply the agreements it signed up to, which is not the case right now.”

      Banks in Britain say they don’t expect the EU to grant meaningful direct access anytime soon and that the time is better spent on making the City more globally attractive.

      https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/france-is-linking-post-brexit-financial-services-deal-fishing-access-source-2021-05-12/

      • Harry McGibbs says:

        To be fair, The Scottish independence movement also lives in an imaginary world where it can build a prosperous future powered by the likes of hydrogen and tidal, and pretend that having no currency or central bank of its own + questionable fiscal credibility don’t make it a hostage to fortune.

        • glad somebody else is pointing that out Harry

          even if it does make you an undesirable alien

          • Harry McGibbs says:

            Lol, I dare say it does, Norman, but as an OFW reader, I tend to view seismic shifts in the status quo with alarm.

            Purely from the standpoint of social and economic stability my preference is for the Union to persist, however dreadful THE BRITISH STATE and its myriad fanboys may be. 😆

      • Mirror on the wall says:

        Right, which is why so many countries are queuing up to join the UK – Norway, Sweden, Ireland, Iceland, Belgium, Denmark, France, Finland, Luxemburg – no one can hold back from joining the UK.

        All of them can do well outside of the UK – and somehow the only countries that could not are those countries within the UK – there is something badly wrong with those freak, incompetent British countries.

        English nationalists might be frit of the big wide world outside of the UK but Scots are not. The entire world manages to function just fine outside of the UK and Scotland is not the exception.

        All of the smaller countries in northern Europe do better for themselves per capita than the UK, let alone than the neglected UK regions outside of London and the SE. Scotland too will do better – just like all of the others.

        • Harry McGibbs says:

          “Scotland too will do better – just like all of the others.”

          Unfortunately it will not and I do not say that out of malice. It’s just the era we live in. And the big wide world is going to be increasingly competitive and unstable moving forwards.

          You do realise also that, although the British State itself would cease to exist in the event of Scexit, its wealthy potentates would find ways to emerge just fine, whilst ordinary English and Scots would ship the damage from the act of economic self-harm.

          • Mirror on the wall says:

            Well then Scotland had better leave the UK and join back with the EU in this big wide world that you find so alarming and frightening. England will be the one on the outside and on its own, not Scotland.

            Heal thyself preacher.

            • Harry McGibbs says:

              Physician, surely?

              The problem with the EU is that it is reaching the point where the tensions between the more and the less fiscally responsible states are irreconcilable.

              They have done a brilliant job of kicking that can down the road but it can’t go on forever, although I suppose we could see some MMT-type fudging. It looks to me a leaky lifeboat and Scotland can expect no special treatment there.

            • Mirror on the wall says:

              I am not going to spend all evening playing ‘project fear’ with the Unionists whenever they feel like it.

              The reports about the loss of business to the city of London could have just been taken on the chin like a man.

              It is just sad that they see every report about the UK as an occasion to attack Scottish independence.

              There is some serious insecurity and displacement going on there.

              Scots will take note.

            • Harry McGibbs says:

              If you post endlessly about Scottish independence (and the failings of the British State) you can hardly complain if its merits are vigorously debated.

              Moreover, OFW is absolutely the last place where you would expect people to share your ill-founded optimism.

            • Mirror on the wall says:

              No one would mistake your comments for ‘vigorous’ analysis.

              More like you just could not cope with the report about banking without you having a go at Scotland.

              I am not playing this game all night, but I can see that you have a psychological need for the final word, so go ahead and have it….

            • Harry McGibbs says:

              How kind – I will. *I* post about problems stemming from Brexit and other economic difficulties in the UK all the time, lol. I am an equal opportunities doomer.

              I love Scotland; I live in Scotland; I have Scottish family and friends, but secession would be both symptomatic of collapse and an accelerant for it, so I cannot welcome it – and I would be directly affected by it.

              Your posts about the British State and Scottish independence are always two sides of the same coin, your loathing for the former informing your desire for the latter, so again you cannot complain if the subject is *debated* vigorously whenever you post on either.

              No matter, it is just words in the ether over a scenario that remains hypothetical for the foreseeable future. I hope you will accept this lovely John Spillane song as a peace offering.

            • Mirror on the wall says:

              I actually do not think that you are offering peace and good will. That is just a gloss.

              All of your arguments are intended to say that Scotland has no option but to stay in the UK. You are attempting to remove their choice on the matter.

              You are in the position of a forceful conqueror who simply wants to impose his own will on Scotland.

              Outward postures do not fool me, I look purely at the power function.

              If you had said that Scottish independence is just as valid a choice as UK but that you personally hope that it does not go that way, then that would have been fine. But all of your arguments are the opposite of that.

            • Harry McGibbs says:

              This is a very odd argument, Mirror. Trying to impose my will on Scotland? Er, no. I didn’t even vote, strategically or otherwise, let alone wrap myself in a Union Jack and take to the streets of Glasgow.

              I just don’t think Scottish independence is economically sensible in this era. If this were 1980 and Scotland were able to bag itself a large chunk of the North Sea oil industry then I would feel differently.

  15. James says:

    This is the President of Ghana addressing his people. (Or it could be a Russian fake.)

    https://www.brighteon.com/9cc0ac48-ef0f-4558-82bc-7acef08cd339

    • JMS says:

      This is no world for wide and good men. The president of Ghana is only risking being “tanzanized” by a massive stroke.

      • JMS says:

        wise

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Now is not such a bad time to die…. some might want to get ahead of the curve…

          But some of us… want to stay till the movie ends… even though we know how it ends.

          Equal mix of foreboding and excitement… but more excitement because how many times does one get to go extinct?

          I feel a bit like a white rhino.

      • Xabier says:

        Most likely JMS. High political office must be such a strain on the heart, after all….

        Well, if it is genuine, good for him!

        Why any African would ever trust Uncle Bill’s special medicine beats me, unlike our idiot compatriots who are beating an eager path to the injection centres.

    • Oh, my! That is quite the video. Laying out the Rockefeller Foundation plan and telling how wicked Anthony Fauci and Bill Gates are.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Here’s why the Fake Moon Landings are important.

        I have watched this video — let’s assume it’s real. Anyone can watch it. You could email it to a CovIDIOT. But he will probably refuse to watch it or if he does the minute he hears that it’s ‘exposing a Covid counternarrative’ he will shout Conspiracy Theory — and he’ll shut it down and return to the Bieber online concert (only vaxxed people are allowed to watch btw)…

        American Moon and Astronauts Gone Wild is a 1,000,000 times more convincing than what this chap is discussing.

        We actually have raw footage of a director saying ‘talk’ and 3 astronauts caught faking video that they claim was taken from lunar orbit (we don’t have video of the CEP organizers discussing it…)

        This is basically like me taking high definition video of any of you people engaged in a full on gang bang orgy …. every mole every mark every wrinkle is clearly visible in the video. It is 100% YOU.

        Then I show that to your spouse and he/she says — what sort of nonsense is this — stop being silly … stop with the conspiracy theories (remember how Buzz reacted when he was forced to watch the space gang bang?)

        Now what if the MSM were to show the space gang bang video and explain to the sheeple that that this is evidence that the Moon Landings never happened? They sheeple would screech and holler and get very angry — people do not like to be fooled. No doubt some would still believe … but most would just get… angry.

        This demonstrates the power of the Matrix…. of the MSM…. of the Elders….

        You can show someone the space gang bang or the CEP… or the Leak from Canada…. and almost all of them will reject it as a conspiracy theory…

        If it’s not programmed into the ‘news’ then it is not credible… not even if it was written 10+ years ago and details everything that is happening right now….

        The Elders and the PR Team must laugh so hard at the humans…. I could have a leaked copy of the CEP … and show it to people and they say I have lost my mind….

        And if Al Gore exposed GW…. he did it because he was getting paid by Big Oil.

        Fascinating stuff… huh?

        This all seems so obvious to Fast Eddy and a few others… but the rest of you — are not a whole lot different from my dog… if I read this out to her she’d sit there with a stunned look on her face too.

        Ok over to Norm… let’s hear more about how cheap energy is crucial to maintaining BAU…. (again)

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Of course that document is not revealing the true end game.

        There is no need to control people — as we can see they are very easily controlled already.

        They will even inject their children with an experiment….

        There can be no reset – there is no energy for that.

        We’ve seen the horrifying shale data – the energy situation is critical now (wondering if that pipeline lie is related to this?).

        The End Game is the CEP. Nothing else is logical.

        • Tsubion says:

          Why would the master farmers go to the trouble of euthanizing a bunch of dullards if everything is going to collapse anyway?

          Why wouldn’t they just sit back and watch people eat each other as the world burns?

          • Fast Eddy says:

            Why would anyone want to watch 8B people rip their faces off?

            Keep in mind … the Elders have extended families… who would be knee deep in the face ripping.

            And when this unravels… it’s everyone savage for himself… the military will disband and be at the vanguard of the face ripping….

            Surely they would start with the Elders… why not take their caviar and champagne? I doubt they’d eat the Elders though … they would mostly be gnarly old goats…

      • Jan says:

        I like narratives like about Rockefeller, Gates or Fauci.

        Bad people in power exist, my family told me as a little boy what they had seen with their own eyes in Hitler Germany. My grandfather used to say: We build up this country for generations with superiour performance and as a thank they slaughter our sons and nephews.

        If you look to proven facts related to Schwab, Gates and Fauci it is enough to realize that these people are evildoers. Secret plans are secret by definition, we cannot know them. These narratives act as a replacement.

        In this forum write highly educated people. They can easily calculate that you need 140 people vaccinated to prevent one symptomatic case and that you get two unwanted reactions each 140 vaccinations.

        Other people work for 7 EUR per hour trying to feed their kids and they dont have nerves and knowledge to dip as deep. They need a simple story to make up their minds.

        Those that can dig deepdr into the matter see easily that the whole pandemic is based on lies. To stop basic human rights on no fact basis is a crime against humanity, not under 10 years of prison.

        To excuse Hitler means to be too weak to see unpleasant realities.

  16. Duncan Idaho says:

    hint:
    “This is a party that achieved a legitimate majority only once in the last 8 presidential elections. It can only maintain a majority in the congress through crude gerrymandering and the undemocratic Senate. And that was before it started purging its members for failing to blindly follow that orange-faced imbecile Donald Trump. No wonder they are frantically trying to rig elections all over the country. If they rely on democracy they are screwed.”

    Late stage capitalism is a never ending game, played by clueless psychopaths.

    • Tim Groves says:

      Admit it. You still miss the Don, don’t you Duncan?

      The rest of us have forgotten him and moved on, but the Don is still living rent-free in Duncan’s head.

  17. Rodster says:

    I knew this guy was a slug. Supposedly he owns several of the Covid vaccine patents so he and his buddy Bill Gates stand to make some money from this charade.

    “Anthony Fauci let the coronavirus pandemic happen, why isn’t there a criminal investigation?”

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-anthony-fauci-let-the-coronavirus-pandemic-happen-why-isnt-there-a-criminal-investigation

  18. RationalLuddite says:

    Morning all,

    I posted above but perhaps more visible as new post.

    Gail,

    Via the ever brilliant Mike Shellman on PeakOilBarrel reply:

    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/controversial-theory-proven-valid-bubble-point-death-rages-lapierre/

    This is big. We are seeing the beginning of a catastrophic collapse in US tight oil production.

    The US will only be able to import oil for a few more years too with fiat monopoly money. Once that stops … well, prepare yourself mentally accordingly.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      All the lines on the graphs are sloping downwards!!!! ‘terminal decline’…. that’s scary stuff….

      Perhaps this is why there are long queues at petrol stations?

      It does appear shale has hit a wall.

    • Kowalainen says:

      So that’s why the pipeline was “hacked”?

      🤔

      Oh, wait…

      HAHAHAHAHAHA….

      Yeah, right…

    • It does look like an interesting paper to look at in more detail when it is not so late.

  19. MM says:

    The FED essentially buys it all. The debt.
    What does the debt do?
    Go into purchases of oil based stuff. (shipping is crazy, China export is crazy)
    The debt will be left on the consumer / house owner to serve. (cough)

    The demand for oil is artificially up. So price is artificially up.

    Price must be up to match:
    – oil futures, where “investors” are betting on price to go up as “their model” predicts. Seams something is not working as expected here…
    – keep production running with high production costs which only works when the price is high enough.

    Red queen debt vs inflation ?
    Or is it the “Klausi Effect”?
    From “klauen” (German) “steal”?

  20. Dennis L. says:

    Well, how about this one, Elon thinks renewables are the way to go, brings up the idea of waste or using the earth as a trash barrel – the external costs. He thinks renewables can be done, Chinese evidently are world leaders in electric car production.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IauaPnBVd4

    I know, his cars are crap according to perceived wisdom, but making the car is the easy part, the software is the had part. Notice another of his rockets worked? NASA never did land one of theirs on its tail, Elon claims he is going to the moon. Chinese are going to the moon, they need minerals, why not?

    Were a corporation behind in electric automobile development, might they make sure every incident with a Tesla was on the front page? Pinto anyone?

    I think the future will be bright, better for everyone; unfortunately, it will be competitive as hell and Jim Keller’s advice on finding something and becoming very good at it has merit. It has never been easy, perhaps on this blog someone pointed out before the 18th century most people were owned. It is better now, it is getting better, it will get better. Grumpy old men will sit on some remote island and blather on and on about the world ending any minute now until for them too their last minute arrives.

    Dennis L.

    • Jarle says:

      Cars and rockets are easy if you have the resources but unfortunately resources have limits …

      • Dennis L. says:

        Jarle,

        Totally agree, the question is are there enough resources to make a mining/manufacturing jump to the moon? I think maybe yes. Elon in his video makes the point there are too few people – I interpret that to be a demographic issue. There are not enough people to hire who can do many jobs, there are too many old people(I am 74, qualify) relative to youth, this will solve itself. In Rochester, MN, $15 is minimum part time wage, crappy jobs working on highway construction are $30/hour if you can find someone to show up.

        In the US we are below replacement rate, we are allowing immigrants in, not all are from SA, a number are from Europe. There are going to be strains, we are experiencing Asian hate in some cities.

        It is cliche, but we don’t solve tomorrow’s problems with today’s technology. In farming a Washington company is zapping weeds with lasers guided by RTK – 24/7 weed control – I am all in favor of getting rid of as many herbicides as possible; in a factory workers would be in space suits around this stuff. Run these machines with batteries, charge them with solar, if need one have three sets of batteries, change batteries on the go, enough batteries to go through cloudy days.

        The minerals we have mined have polluted our earth, time to move the byproducts off earth, make a mess of the moon, process on the backside if necessary, who cares? If piles of waste are of concern, catapult the stuff onto Jupiter for kicks, watch the splashes – that is a bit of humor, not serious.

        Dennis L.

    • The video starts out saying that the world’s population will be dropping in the future, because of the falling birth rate. I expect that the working age population is already dropping in many countries because the birth rate started dropping long ago. The economy may very well start imploding from lack of workers.

      The video talks about China making the most electric cars in the world. Perhaps it makes the most electric cars, but it seems recently to be selling them to Europe.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_energy_vehicles_in_China#/media/File:Comparison_PEV_sales_China_Europe_USA_from_2014.png

      In China, electric cars are used to make use of the coal available there. They do have wind and solar, but it is hard to transport it to where electricity is mostly used. One use for “stranded” wind and solar seems to be making Bitcoin and other similar currencies.

      Musk praises China for being sustainable. I am not so sure about this.

      According to Musk, we can do almost anything with mRNA technology. It’s like a computer program. (Of course, we aren’t sure what exactly will happen a few years down the line. We haven’t tested it that far.)

      A sustainable future without fossil fuels. I don’t know about that.

      • Dennis L. says:

        Something I have not seen is a computation of the usefulness of capital to a worker with the passage of time; as we get older we work more slowly, this reduces the value of a given piece of capital. To date we have somewhat masked this with technology, e.g. a checkout line without checkers, one checker manning a site can still appear to be productive as the capital is being used by the customers who are not being paid to scan.

        If the worker is driving a dump truck, most likely the speed decreases with age and thus the return on capital of the truck.

        Even if we work more years, we can do less work per unit of time with similar capital, take away energy or increase its costs and it becomes more of a problem.

        This is maybe one thing not mentioned in the video, it is not only the absolute number, it is the age distribution. Sometime ago, on this site I looked at the cost to the working generation of the increase in oil price compared to the increase in payroll taxes(SS), SS was more of a factor which is consistent with older generations being less productive.

        Dennis L.

  21. arcus says:

    For those desiring more moon landing content from Fast Eddy one can go to Dr. Malcolm Kendrick’s most recent blog post on Covid19 where FE has established a presence much like his one on OFW. He’s a busy boy!

  22. Jarle says:

    “10 Things We Have Learned During the Covid Coup”

    https://off-guardian.org/2021/05/11/10-things-we-have-learned-during-the-covid-coup/

    • I particularly like number 7 on this list of 10:

      The mainstream media is nothing but a propaganda machine for the system and those journalists who work for it have sold their sorry souls, placing their (often minimal) writing skills entirely at the disposition of Power.

    • JMS says:

      Of these ten things, the only I was not fully aware of before covidscam was how easy is to intimidate / buy doctors and scientists.2020, a year of great revelations it was.

      9.
      “Scientists cannot be trusted. They will use the hypnotic power of their white coats and authoritative status for the benefit of whoever funds their work and lifestyle. He who pays the piper calls the tune.”

      • Xabier says:

        Successful scientists and medics will on the whole have biggish salaries, even bigger debts – especially mortgages – and will, in consequence and quite naturally, be conformists

        .We can expect nothing much of them. Others will be quite political and go where the wind is blowing.

        The great Dr Yeadon is self-employed if not retired, and has no doubt paid off his mortgage.

        But I agree, their collective failure to oppose this 100% injection drive is shocking.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Yeadon sold his business for $350M … he likely owned a big chunk of the biz so he has no need to ever work again

    • Thierry says:

      maybe 2 or 3 years ago I would have agreed about maybe 50% of the items;
      Now this is 100%, clearly. In this way, the pandemic has been much useful.
      The most disturbing is to realize number 6 :
      “Most people in our society are cowards. They will jettison all the fine values and principles which they have been loudly boasting about all their lives merely to avoid the slightest chance of public criticism, inconvenience or even minor financial loss.”
      Well we don’t need to wonder anymore how things happened during the 1930’s. We know.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      11. Most people are seriously stooopid MOREONS. Some even still believe we have been to the moon even after watching American Moon. hahahahahahaha…. a dog is more clever

    • StarvingLion says:

      12. The Samson Option is SCARY!

  23. for those needing conspiratorial assistance

    https://druthers.net

    • Canada, with all of its new COVID regulations, certainly is a breeding ground for opposition. Whether or not they claim conspiracies, I don’t know.

  24. Jarle says:

    Regarding all the comments on the moon landings:

    Going to the moon is nothing but very expensive sight seeing; the reason we aren’t all over the place is that there’s just not enough money to waste.

    There, back to limits in a short paragraph!

    • been saying that for years—but what do I know

    • Dennis L. says:

      This is perhaps looking in the rear view mirror. The moon seems rich in minerals, mine there, process there(notice during the day, sunlight is very warm), ship back to earth. Pollution is an external cost, but it is a real cost, space is big, dump the waste in space, find a convenient black hole if need be, one might be closer than we think.

      https://www.usgs.gov/news/usgs-releases-first-ever-comprehensive-geologic-map-moon

      Or of course, maybe better to stomp one’s feet and say, “No, no, no, it is all a hoax.”

      The money to waste was literally waste dumped into the rivers and air of earth, true waste, but of course back to tragedy of the commons.

      Dennis L.

      • Jarle says:

        Ship back to earth?! A dream, mate, nothing but a dream.

        • Dennis L. says:

          Jarle,

          Almost everything begins as a dream; Jules Vern wrote in the 19th century, we make better submarines now than he dreamt of making.

          Finished metals can be shot to earth, the gravity well is fairly shallow, or investigate a space elevator, same issue with less gravity, less strain on tether. Let it loose in orbit, fling it to earth after painting with an ablative coating.

          USCGD spent 60 years making a map of the moon, someone had a reason, China wants to return to the moon, videos of China seem incredible, in the US our cities barely work.

          https://www.usgs.gov/news/usgs-releases-first-ever-comprehensive-geologic-map-moon

          Some skeptics here will claim it was done paint by number.
          Humor will be a Chineman going “Ah so, FE, greetings from the moon, care to buy some minerals?”

          Using the past as a blueprint for the future is hopeless, so we can rule that out and try something else. We are not going to do it with oil. When I was a kid serious people claimed one could never make a computer to rival the human brain, it would take Niagara Falls to cool it. Woops, small water cooler does the job today.

          Dennis L.

          • Tsubion says:

            Mining in Siberia or the Arctic circle or the Antarctic or deap undersea mining has to be easier than getting stuff from another planet.

            And yet we’re not doing too well in that department are we.

            That goes for building elaborate bases too. How well is that going in the far corners of the earth? Harsh environments but nowhere near as harsh as outer space or mars.

            It would almost be easier to recycle all the material we’ve dug up and turned into things. But that would be silly wouldn’t it.

            How is the space based solar coming along?

            • Slowly. It makes a subject for people in colleges to study. No one assumes that it will be available in the next 30 years, except possibly on a very limited scale, I don’t think.

    • Bei Dawei says:

      Not enough money to waste?! But…but…the military budget!

    • This is my view about going to the moon as well. It is nothing but very expensive sight seeing.

      But I suppose that the exercise does provide jobs, as well as the belief that there might be more jobs in this direction in the future. This is why it is done.

      • NomadicBeer says:

        “(Going to the moon) It is nothing but very expensive sight seeing.”
        Gail,
        Interesting you say that. That’s exactly what I used to believe. But the fact that they took a car and golf clubs to the moon but never thought of bringing a simple telescope and take some pictures – that boggles the mind!

        Of course, the true believers in progress will always have the moon landing – and going back there in the future.
        Just like the resurrection of Jesus and the second coming, these are tenet s of faith so all the debate is useless.

        • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

          are you making a strawman of “true believers in progress”? Is the entirety of IC not real? Of course it’s real, and it came about through centuries of progress. Do you deny that there has been progress in IC up to 2019?………………………………….. I will repeat that I think it’s 99% certain that we went to the moon, BUT I also think that the progress of IC is coming to an end in a decade or two. Is all the progress up to 2019 fayke? Don’t you admit that there has been much tech/industrial progress up to now?……………………………. As I ask you this sitting here many thousands of miles ? away from you and communicating almost instantly. See any progress in that?

          • NomadicBeer says:

            Like all true believers you cannot imagine your religion is anything else but true.
            The Roman Empire was immensely great and successful – ergo Jupiter and other gods are real.

            Why torture yourself by reading the naysayers? Enjoy your devices and dream about the return to the Moon – any day now.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Surely there is more to it than that…

        As American Moon suggests… during the cold war both sides were trying to one-up each other … to demonstrate their system was superior so that countries would join one empire or the other (there was no option to be neutral…)

        And as I have suggested previously … and as does AM … the Russians could not poke a hole in this … without appearing sore losers…. there is no winning that battle because the MSM would mock you to the ends of the earth…

        I think there is more to it than that though…. it is in everyone’s interests to fool the cattle into believing we can leave the planet … that technology can conquer all.

        If it was expensive sight seeing … then why bother faking it? Why not just admit the astronauts were in low earth orbit when they took that video of the earth …. and tell them sorry folks… but it’s impossible to go any further … because of the radiation…

        Like we did with the space shuttles….

        Just as many jobs are created…

        Of course when you have a situation with people queuing at the pumps in America … as domestic oil peaks…. the cattle get anxious .. and they get reminded that this planet is finite… and really not that big…. and that is bad psychology….

        It suppose it is necessary to create this Matrix we live in …

        “It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.”

        That applies to much more than banking…

        Let’s revisit this caption from Century of Self…. something seems to have changed once we unleashed the full force of industry to conduct war….

        The beast inside had the tools to destroy civilization … BAU was becoming more sophisticated and any great chaos initiated by an out of control mass of people could result in a Korowicz situation …

        I continue to read about the Russian Revolution … we could also see that in France during their revolution … things were spiralling out of control…. the atrocities were epic….

        Freud – and no doubt global leaders — recognized that we were entering a very dangerous phase in development … that would only become more dangerous as industrialization evolved….

        It thus became imperative that the great hordes of dangerous animals be controlled… more so that every before…. a system of control needed to be developed to do this …. That system is what many refer to as the Matrix…

        It keeps the apes under control… it also keeps them happy…. and queues for petrol do not a happy ape make…. a happy ape is a hopeful ape… an ape who believes in democracy and renewable energy and colonies on earth-like planets (that do not exist)….

        There is a much Bigger Picture here…

        Anyone who does not believe this — think about a corporation — and their customer service division …. Their goal is to ensure their customers are happy…they do studies on what makes them happy …. remember the days when trying to return a product was a nightmare? Well they figured out making it easy meant customers came back to buy more… and told friends about the new policy….

        Then think about the marketing department and the ad agencies…. it is their job to create a Matrix… so that you buy what they are flogging …

        https://youtu.be/DnPmg0R1M04?t=249

        • Thierry says:

          “Freud – and no doubt global leaders — recognized that we were entering a very dangerous phase in development … that would only become more dangerous as industrialization evolved….”
          You get it! I really love the way you put it. One needs to understand what was the real work of Freud (and Jung, and Lacan) to see the big picture. So-called psychology or psychiatry are nothing else but a desperate attempt to control the crowd; Not surprising after Freud came Bernays.

      • thats like saying the vacation industry provide jobs, which it does, millions probably

        but they are still vacations when you define a vacation as burning surplus energy to go somewhere interesting and returning with photographs and (ultimately useless) souvenirs.

        After 50 years, bits of moon rock are being sold on Ebay. I’ve tried selling some of my rockery, but no bidders so far.

        NASA PhDs will continue to promote off earth stuff because it provides employment, (if only for moon set makers in the Area51 studios)

  25. Azure Kingfisher says:

    Charles Richet: Anaphylaxis

    “The term aphylaxis was coined by French physiologist Charles Richet in 1902 and later changed to anaphylaxis due to its nicer quality of speech.

    “In his experiments, Richet injected a dog with sea anemone (Actinia) toxin in an attempt to protect it.

    “Although the dog had previously tolerated the toxin, on re-exposure, three weeks later with the same dose, it developed fatal anaphylaxis.

    “Thus instead of inducing tolerance (prophylaxis), when lethal responses resulted from previously tolerated doses, he coined the word a (without) phylaxis (protection).

    “The Pfizer–BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine… is an mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccine… Vaccination requires two doses given three weeks apart.

    “The Moderna COVID-19 vaccine… is designed to be administered as two 0.5 mL doses given by intramuscular injection at an interval of four weeks apart.”

    https://malagabay.files.wordpress.com/2021/05/charles-richet-anaphylaxis_v2.pdf

  26. Kowalainen says:

    Apparently it is likely that I’m some form of biological experiment now, a hodgepodge of a virus and rapacious primate. Lovely stuff.

    I wonder if the amount of obnoxious scale linearly with the viral contamination in my slightly genetically modified rapacious primate gram of most skin and bones?

    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/05/further-evidence-offered-claim-genes-pandemic-coronavirus-can-integrate-human-dna
    “Harmit Malik, a specialist in ancient viruses in the human genome at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center, says it’s a “legitimate question” to ask why people who should have cleared the virus sometimes have positive polymerase chain Reaction tests for its sequences. But he also remains unconvinced that the explanation is integrated virus. “Under normal circumstances, there is so little reverse transcription machinery available” in human cells, Malik says.”

    What could possibly go wr….. Oh I see. My ba115 stopped working, however I wasn’t going to put them to any use anyway. Repeat after me:

    MUPPETS GONNA MUPPET!

    🤣👍

    • From the article:

      In the new PNAS paper, the team provides evidence that artifacts alone can’t explain the detected levels of virus-human chimeric DNA. The scientists also show that portions of LINE-1 elements flank the integrated viral genetic sequence, further supporting their hypothesis. And they have collaborated with one of the original skeptics, Stephen Hughes of the National Cancer Institute, who suggested an experiment to clarify whether the integration was real or noise, based on the orientation of the integrated viral sequences relative to the human ones. The results support the original hypothesis, says Hughes, a co-author of the new paper. “That analysis has turned out to be important,” he says.

      “The integration data in cell culture is much more convincing than what was presented in the preprint, but it’s still not totally clean,” says Feschotte, who now calls Jaenisch’s and Young’s hypothesis “plausible.” (SARS-CoV-2, he notes, can also persist in a person for months without integrating its genes.)

      The real question is whether the cell culture data have any relevance to human health or diagnostics.

      So there seems to be some integration of mRNA elements with DNA, but we don’t understand whether this has any affect on health. We also don’t know if it is leading to falsely high positive test results for COVID-19.

  27. Kowalainen says:

    Just look at the scale, pomp and regalia. The perfection of humanoid shenanigans more than 2000 years ago, carved out with fingernails, copper chisels, slavery, sweat and tears. But don’t worry, what we can’t reproduce today could easily be made in the past. It’s how shit works, right?

    https://youtu.be/CW-UHK5-QBQ (valley of the kings, sorry, muppets)

    And people seriously doubt we could go to the moon in the 60’s? Give me a break. We could cut through rock in perfect angles and shapes making CNC drill holes and slap down N pyramids before you could say “Conspiracy theory” and “Aliens”. And that was two freaking millennia ago.

    The moon landing ‘a hoax’? Give me a break. Give it a decade or two and we’d slap down 100 pyramids on the moon, just for shits and giggles. Then we’d nuke them from orbit for good effect. If that wasn’t enough, send some asteroids and tilt the axis of the earth and satellite in the process. I mean, who gives a flying F about some crusty half-conscious primates and associated life forms. Obviously nobody, including ourselves. Repeat after me:

    MOAR!

    What the F is this place anyway? Lemme’ guess: A goddamned cesspool of various dullard muppetry gone full tilt! Just because morons can wield tech doesn’t make them any less retarded.

    The whole shit show just makes me cringe. Repeat after me:

    MUPPETS GONNA MUPPET

    And then follow it up with:

    AS FATHER, AS SON.

    🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦

    Slightly genetically modified rapacious primates. Now think about this:

    WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG?

    Idiot muppets herding moron dullards overseen by some shitty ass halfwit ‘lineage’ of dimwit cringeworthy and elitist eugenicist garbage.

    I sure as fuck hope I’m not in any of these so called ‘lineages’.
    What a disaster.

    🤣👍

  28. Tsubion says:

    Dr Reiner Fuellmich, international lawyer has all the evidence that pandemic is crime

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/NWTroWZs7uwe/

    Truth or Consequences

    The famous international trial lawyer Dr Reiner Fuellmich and his large worldwide network of lawyers have all the evidence that the pandemic is a crime against humanity. Several law suits have been won already and they are preparing major class action lawsuits against the WHO and governments. Reiner Fuellmich says a second Nuremberg may be needed.

    • The world economy has been taken over by the super rich, through organizations such as WHO and World Economic Forum that look like they are public, but they are really private. It is the Davos clique, consisting of the very wealthy and associated politicians.

      Many lawsuits are being filed. “PCR retraction paper,” talks about the problem with the test producing a lot false positives. Disagrees with the idea of asymptomatic people spreading illness. Suits are based on the idea that PCR tests don’t tell enough. They simply make people afraid to be around other people.

      I am not sure that this is the way I would approach these lawsuits. There seem to be bigger problems.

      I only got to 14:34.

      • Tsubion says:

        There are many lawsuits in motion, that is true. It’s another matter entirely to make any of them stick. The level of corruption in the courts is cranked all the way to eleven!

        That said, they will start to do the right thing (as scripted) to save their own skins and apply constitutional law as they should have done all along. The patsies (Gates and Fauci) are already been demonized in the MSM.

        It’s very clear to me now that this whole operation, with Gates and Fauci at the head, was set up to fail. The mainstream media played its role as the bad cop pushing curious types to find info elsewhere. The alternative media was ready and waiting to provide another narrative, thereby seeding another branch of division among the people.

        This whole hollywood production was created to set up China and the CCP as the fall guy along with Xi Jingping, Fauci, the WHO and Gates.

        What this does is clear the chessboard for a new wave of optimism based on holistic healthcare and simple living once the “tyrannical” Rockefeller snake oil system is shown to be a complete and utter scam – mostly the branch of virology.

        People will feel as if they defeated the big bad medical dictatorship, but in reality they are just being herded into a new penn.

        The main overarching goal of all these operations is to establish a Biometric Digital ID and crypto currencies to keep things pootling along a little longer.

        I’ve also heard that the 3 amigos – Trump, Putin, and Xi were slated to be removed at some point to be replaced by a single hegemon (Angela Merkel or similar) so that the whole world fall in line with the final stages of the controlled demolition of IC.

        Personally, I think things are going to fall apart with chaos becoming more and more prevalent as is already visible in much of South America.

        • You might be right. Having too little energy tends to make organizations of any kind fall apart or be easily overthrown. Melinda Gates leaving Bill is a sign things aren’t going so well.

          Oligarchs want to have control, but it is doubtful that they can. Biden wanting to end the patent protection for vaccines was a blow to Fauci’s organization, I expect.

          • Kowalainen says:

            The ‘will to power’ aka to control shit that is out of control is just another bonkers hallucination spawned in the myopia of ordinary.

            Who in his or her right mind would even want to be ‘in control’? Shit shouldn’t be controllable. Why you might ask?

            1. Life is an unknown in the unknown
            2. Life is an adventure in the unknown
            3. Death is inevitable
            4. Extinction is inevitable

            And it is all mindless hunky dory process.

            ☯️

        • This whole new twist with Gates being suddenly revealed as sexually immoral after all these years definitely seems to play into your idea of orchestration. But I can’t imagine either him or Fauci being compliant actors.. so I’m still a little bit stumped.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            yes that also seems odd…

          • Kowalainen says:

            Elon is probably have harder nuts to crack? An aspie thinking about rockets and electric cars with no problem attracting women. We are all free to choose, right?

            It’s probably enough to tell him what’s a bad idea once.

            Let’s go Freud for a moment.

            As for Gates and Fauci; cannot. resist. debauchery. because. inferiority. complex.

            Now compare puny syringes to behemoth rockets. Both phallic shaped with a clear win in potency and erect for rockets shot into orbit around Mother Earth.

            Now that something way harder than stupid gene therapies and herd management.

            🤣👍

          • Xabier says:

            Fauci the False and Uncle Bill are both principal actors in the system, and also, to some degree, puppets.

            Once you have murdered to cement your place in a gang you get status as reward, while at the same time you will be compromised, complicit and trapped.

            Perhaps the Rothschilds are the only free actors in this scheme?

            But then there’s always their boss, Old Nick himself…..

            • Tsubion says:

              Most likely correct. Planning and foresight can only achieve so much. When the schemers sense that they are on the back foot and see the flames of rebellion nipping at their lower ranks, they turn into the most viscious backstabbing crocodiles and start mass dumping their minions into the wood chipper.

              Scorched earth is going to be nasty and inevitable. Much of our own ranks will get singed in the process. Supply lines, energy, infrastructure break down is going to affect everyone everywhere at some point.

              There are always multiple avenues open to the master farmers. They don’t put all their eggs in one basket. And when certain pawns have outlived their usefulness or become a handful they can be easily swept aside to reveal a new avenue to pursue.

              I think much of the technocratic megalomania we see unfolding was also allowed to scare the masses suficiently to enable a “reaction” in the form of new agey holistic lifestyle for all.

              Do you see how the bad cop (transhumanism, robotics, AI) is overtly scary and pushed in media all the time (I’m sure you do) and the alternative rising up in the west – populist conservative natural “we’re the good guys and we’re going to save you and put things right” – appears to be winning this battle giving many people much hopium to smoke.

              In reality… it doesn’t matter which way things go because we more or less end up in the same place – all avenues lead to mass die off or conversion of humans into GMO products so not much difference there!

              That’s why I think a lot of the vaccine passport ID2020 push is all set up to fail as well. It is overtly obnoxious and rejected by most people if given a choice.

              Most of the other plans for global homogenisation look doomed to fail too such as one belt one road, one world currency, unifying religion etc etc. We see backs being turned on China and that is only going to ramp up as they are fingered for the plandemic and other crimes against humanity. Can’t allow one tentacle to get too big stomping around like they own the place. Must always provide counterbalance.

              I do believe a lot of fraud and “men behind the curtain” “hidden hand” aspects are going to be revealed en masse since that is the trajectory we see unfolding for the past few years.

              I agree with Gail that at a deeper level of understanding these are simply forces of nature at play and while the general trend may already be baked in, the chaotic micro-movements at our level are still interesting to track. Some avenues buy us more time. Others not so much. All lead to the same conclusion unless… energy miracle.

              For now…. I just want the zombies to stop wearing surgical masks. If we can’t achieve that, I have little hope for any mass coordination to “save” humanity. The next crisis and the one after that – they’re coming thick and fast now – will completely destroy any regrouping attempts. The masses have now been fully trained to act in a certain way. And if civil war breaks out you never know which way it will go. Probably more dependent on which faction gets the most funding.

            • Kowalainen says:

              ”Saving humanity” what an oxymoron. What would that even mean when people in general can’t bother or understand to save themselves from the myopic illusion of perpetuity in IC?

              Of course new ideas and theories appear on the radar screen of the ‘elders’. I’d do exactly like them; throw the old nut job crowd under the bus and floor it. So what? Nobody forced them to muppet around? Only morons operate in front of the cameras flapping their cookie holes.

              The real masters operate on three levels:

              1. Information advantage (IT/telecoms/compute)
              2. Natural resource control (military)
              3. The industrial base to enable 1. and 2.

              The rest is just temporary rackets that float on top of the hegemony. It is simply allowed to exist as long as it is useful. May it be consumerist materialist capitalist inflation or depop eugenics driven deflation. Won’t make a shred of a difference. Watch them not care.

              The rules of the game won’t change. Be useful or be gone. Apparently Billy G with cronies botched this one real good.

              But what does an oat munching court jester in IC know? Not much.

              🤔

          • Xabier says:

            Perhaps they feel that the India story is flagging a bit, so have decided to fill our minds with even more horrifying and traumatic images – the young Uncle Bill as a playboy.

            I certainly feel queasy and want it all to stop – nude pool parties, ugh!

            No more revelations!

            • Kowalainen says:

              Imagine Billy G swinging his genitalia at a nude pool party with children lured in by his best buddy Epstein. (Sorry Xabier, couldn’t resist)

              Makes me proud being of the same species as this muppet.

              High five all the way to extinction..

              👋

          • Thierry says:

            It just shows how little we know. So, Gates was just a puppet and we believed he was the master of the universe? What a disillusion!
            But then who is the puppet master? Try again!
            There is a theory that all puppets are chosen because of their deviance and then bound with blackmail and threats of various kinds. How lovely, that sounds nice!

          • Tsubion says:

            People like Fauci and Gates (and thousands of others like them) do as they’re told.

            Otherwise… chop chop!

            These people are groomed since birth. Many show signs of trauma based mind control. Split personality traits. Most are blackmailed. Some like Fauci appear to be natural born psychopaths with extraordinary capacity for bold faced lying.

            The Gates, Bezos, Zuckerberg, Musk crowd are just frontmen of the Rockeffer legacy.

            Even national leaders get thown under the bus when the time comes to move the agenda forward – Hitler, Hussein, Gadaffi, Assad. I suspect Putin and Xi will be next.

            Watch for soft Rothschild puppets Trudeau and Macron to fall too.

            Netanyahoo also.

            They have all served their purpose.

            They are all expendable.

            The ones in the inner circle never appear in the media. To break their hold over the world we would have to decentralize the means by which they exercise this control namely central banking and most other industries of import.

            I think most of us here understand that this decentralization dream is just that… a pipedream, since any kind of restructuring now would probably lead to mass die off and a few stragglers scraping about in the dirt.

      • DB says:

        There would be no recognized pandemic without a diagnostic test and associated faulty procedures that produce a very large majority of false positives. All the damage caused by the response to COVID is downstream from the bad tests.

        • Tsubion says:

          I would go further and say that all positives are false. The Drosten PCR does not detect a viral genome or diagnose disease. Even at the acceptable CT levels a positive doesn’t really mean anything. And yet all governments have been counting these as infections, sick people, evidence of contagion and on and on.

          It’s all lies.

          Are there some new symptoms knocking around? Possibly. But there’s no proof that a virus is causing these symptoms as no virus has ever been properly isolated. It’s all assumptions. Which is not science, but pseudoscience.

          New forms of radiation are known to cause dry pneumonia symptoms as well as blood clots. The vaxxxines are also being blamed for this.

          That’s all that’s happening here folks.

          Blame the spike protein created by your own cells if you really must have a bogeyman.

          Remove the radiation and the vaxxxines and the problem goes away.

          Be very wary of alternative media especially infowars now pushing that the virus is and always was a bioweapon created in the Wuhan lab. This is all part of the demonisation campaign and flies in the face of prominent biologists who say it’s all nonsense.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      He’s wasting his time… we are dealing with people who have the power to violate the laws of Nuremberg that make it a crime to coerce people into taking experimental treatments…

      • Tsubion says:

        Yes, I think you’re right. That’s why I paint the picture that a group is being put forward – prominent lawyers, doctors, scientists – to save us from Big Pharma.

        Doesn’t mean they’ll be victorious.

        He did take on and win against Deutchbank and Volkswagen, but it’s a giant leap from there to Big Pharma and the global operation we are witnessing. This is a whole other level.

        And Big Pharma have a history of knocking people off whenever it suits them. Anyone that gets in the way of profits and pesky biologists that get too close to a cure for major diseases.

        But lets break it down with empirical evidence…

        What is it you see happening?

        You believe that the powers are executing a depop program so that people don’t suffer later on.

        I don’t see any evidence of that yet. I’m waiting to the end of the year to make my judgement. Everyone I know has taken the vaxxxine. Even younger people in government jobs. Some had adverse reactions. None have dropped dead. So far. If a large number of vaxxinated drop dead or are seriously injured by the end of the year then we’ll know for sure.

        Again, we’ve now identified the spike protein as the main culprit and any treatments will be targeting that. So the whole vaxxine surge can be stopped at any time.

        There’s evidence that the courts are turning around now and starting to listen to the scientists calling for a halt to vaxxing.

        But why not simply allow nature to take its course? Why not sit back and watch the world burn? They’ve done it before. The world wars are proof that they don’t care for human life. In fact they appear to revel in a bit of chaos every now and then. How else are they to Build Back Better?

        What I see happening is a rearanging of the chairs on the Titanic.

        The old world odour is being allowed to implode and a hippy dippy new agey replacement is being allowed to rise.

        Kissenger, Soros, Gates, Schwabb – out. Strong national leaders – in.

        That doesn’t mean that any of it is authentic. The same inner circle remains. But in terms of outward appearance these changes would appease the general public and the new leaders more easily able to convince them that the changes are for their own good.

        You push hard with draconian measures first including ridiculous looking riot police beating up on women and make sure everyone sees it. Get the mob all riled up. Then you bring in some hero characters – Prof Dolores Cahill, Fuelmich and their merry band of revolutionaries.

        Throw in Antifa and BLM mobs and Columbian forces shooting people in the streets and you now have the stage set for chaos from which order will arise like a phoenix from the ashes.

        Rinse repeat in every western nation and there’s your new world order. The “good guys” will love the paramilitary martial law bringing law and order. The tribunals will be relished. Those other people were zombies anyway.

        Nuremberg 2.0 doesn’t have to be real. Only as real as the first one. A symbolic gesture to move things in a new direction.

        That’s why I don’t trust the supposed good guys rising to the challenge. They are looking more and more like controlled opposition.

        • Thierry says:

          I agree with everything that you say, and this is why I will always keep my distance with all the so-called whistleblowers or the “good guys” of all kinds.
          The only thing is, you don’t take into account the energy problem. So if this is not a CEP, then what? How will they manage the decline / collapse and feed everyone? Or do you think there is no energy problem? I would like you opinion. I’m afraid we can’t wait until the end of the year, at least in some places of the world.

          • Tsubion says:

            I think we’re looking at a simple case of inertia.

            The behemoth known as Big Pharma was set up by the rockefellers (who were snake oil salesmen) in order to profit from peoples sickness.

            They created modern illness through the food industry, pollution, Big Agra and treated all the symptoms through BIg Pharma. Double profits!

            So what we see now is just the last push for massive profits before it all gets replaced.

            Gene therapy was always going to be tested in one way or another. They simply felt like they were running out of time so they brought things forward a decade and very clumsily tried to force this experiment on as many people as possible.

            Of course there are eugenics factions and mass depop factions at play, but they compete with the make huge profits factions that are the majority.

            The same is happening with banking. The threat of decentralisation will push the industry to show their hand and make mistakes. They simply wont be able to compete.

            And education. Same.

            And oil. To be cont….

            But there are those who say it’s not about the money. That these oligarchs are more interested in the accumulation of power. And extreme wealth is the means to achieve that.

            I’m not so sure about this premise. These types of people suffer from a disease called greed. They can never have enough. Psychopaths lack spiritual experience and empathy so they tend to be extreme materialists. Their only goal is to accumulate as many trinkets as possible. Hence the palaces, stately homes, castles, fleets of private aircraft, giant yachts and private islands.

            They don’t even crave that much attention. The old families shun the limelight like literal vampires.

            Power is saught purely to maintain levels of wealth and open up new streams of profit. But the underlying drive is towards more material wealth.

            So they set up the FBI, the CIA, the NSA, DARPA, academia and so on to manage their affairs which include all the illegal traficking that goes on in the world.

            As far as energy goes… I don’t dismiss the possibility that engineering breakthroughs can happen at any time. The problem appears to have more to do with the materials required to maintain our standard of living and for the current levels of global population.

            All the problems to do with arable land, water, infrastructure maintenance, energy, and transportation look set to implode as soon as the first card falls.

            People talk about technologies that have been held back for military purposes and to protect current industries, but it’s getting very late in the day for this kind of reveal.

            Even if you could mass produce modular nuclear reactors and plug them in at the local level removing all the current restrictions, something else in the supply chain would break down because of the sheer number of people you are trying to sustain so they can sell coffee to each other.

            The simple solution to a lot of problems is massive population reduction.

            And I think the only way that is going to happen is the good old fashioned way – mass starvation and disease.

            Then you can argue all day about economies of scale and how they wouldn’t work with less people. How did they work in the past with much smaller populations?

            How many customers do you need for the microchip economy to work?

            How many people do you need to make public infrastructure such as roads and power lines viable?

            • Thierry says:

              yes, the families don’t need many people to live like they are doing and keep all their material goods. A few hundred millions would be enough.
              Then there is the question why they pushed us to consume always more resources, and energy. Which gave humanity the opportunity (and the curse) to multiply like never before.This is still a conundrum to me. I have some theories but they would be far away from the topic here. (although Gail has made an attempt is that direction talking about the “hidden” story). If I can give a clue, I don’t think the only purpose is material.

            • Tsubion says:

              Oh sure, there are religious factions with agendas at play.

              Some see the rest of humanity as their slaves.

              The slaves have served their purpose.

              Wealth and technological power has been accumulated.

              The useful and essential will be well provided for.

              The other slaves can now be allowed to “rest.”

        • Fast Eddy says:

          You believe that the powers are executing a depop program so that people don’t suffer later on.

          I don’t see any evidence of that yet. I’m waiting to the end of the year to make my judgement.

          There is no absolute evidence but there are these markers:

          – all sources of oil have peaked and shale looks to be on the verge of a massive production collapse

          – there is no alternative to oil therefore collapse of civilization is imminent (no electricity, petrol, food, running water, medicine, govt, security)

          – numerous experts including Bossche and Yeadon have stated these vaccines are purposed to kill

          – the goal is to vaccine all 8B people with a vaccine that does not stop them from getting covid — and when most will experience covid as a flu or cold

          What other reason can there be to ‘vaccinate’ 8B people – for no good reason?

          • To make money for the companies making the vaccine. That may be sufficient motive.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              I’m thinking… if Big Pharma have that kinda power (to control the MSM and every leader on the planet)….. then why would they need to wreck BAU to sell vaccines and make money?

              Why don’t they just kick the Elders out of the Fed and take over the money machine and fill their bank accounts with the trillions that are being pumped out to deal with Covid?

              Very cool! https://brrr.money/

              And another

              https://youtu.be/fCa_-bW8EQM

            • Maybe big Pharma has powers in one way, but not in another. Maybe part of the powers are those supporting the higher educational system. People in education and in textbook sales desperately want support for the belief that going to college will pay off well. They also want to support the myth that there will be jobs that pay well for all of these folks in higher education. In fact, there are others who want to support this myth: the ones making loans to young people to attend college. Also, builders who are building apartment buildings for college students to live in, and more apartment buildings for those out of college.

              It really gets to be a very big coalition with big Pharma. It gets to be most of the media as well. In fact, everyone who wants to sell a “happy ever after ending” story.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Why would every single leader on the planet — play ball with Big Pharma — and inject their citizens with something that is experimental – and does not stop the spread of covid?

              Why would ever MSM outlet on the planet be pounding the drum for the vaccine? Why are they ignoring the Great Barrington Scientists (or mocking them)… and Mike Yeadon….

              Is Big Pharma controlling all the world leaders and the entire MSM?

              Perhaps I have it wrong… has Big Pharma supplanted The Elders?

            • Xabier says:

              A good point, Gail.

              It certainly would be sufficient motive, if utterly immoral, and any deaths or injuries would be mere ‘collateral damage’ in the seeking of profit, that is par for the course with Big Pharma and corrupt politicians and regulators.

              However, considered in the whole context of the energy and resource predicament – which they are aware of – and all the other policies, above all the move to digitised economies and finance, and restrictions, it is not fully adequate as an explanation.

            • Tsubion says:

              I believe that is the primary motive. Always with these things.

              A seconday motive was the need to force millions of lab rats into a gene therapy experiment that they otherwise would not have participated in. Hence the most exagerated fear campaign ever run on the global population. Globbly Wobbly doesn’t come close.

              The data gained from this “experiment” could actually lead to useful treatments but so far it’s not looking good for the gene therapy business and for Big Pharma in general. Much trust has been lost in all goverment departments too.

              The fact that they felt the desperate need to push this through ten years ahead of time should tell you everything. They wanted to make as much as possible now before things get worse.

              The inertia of greed at work.

          • Also, to have a new pathway for young people to follow. They too, can complete advanced schooling that will teach them to make vaccines that will save everyone from every disease known to mankind.

            • Tsubion says:

              Ah, the promise of gene therapy!

              There’s a tiny snag to keep in mind though. You may find it in the small print.

              Gene modification therapy participants cease being human beings under the law. They are now something “other.”

              Which means they also lose their human rights. They can now be treated as something “other” and no laws exist for this “other” as yet.

              These novel GMO organisms become property of the patent holder, namely Big Pharma corporations.

              These corporations have special rights over any novel organisms that their techology helped create.

              Remember the much publicised court cases over Monsanto seed etc.

              These “other” organisms also waived their insurance policy claims when they voluntarily submitted to a medical experiment.

              And many other reasons why it’s probably best to remain a plain old vanilla human… for now.

          • Tsubion says:

            Well no1 they’re already failing in their “mission.”

            Everything they’ve done so far is completely illegal and the courts are starting to turn on the perps.

            Now why would they do that if they had also taken bribes? Threats only work when you think you’re losing.

            2. I don’t trust Bossche and his “shedding will kill everyone” story. Or the others pushing this nonsense. Yeadon is also suspect since you can’t work at the highest levels for one of the most criminal enterprises in history without being a little bit suspect as well.

            By the way he’s moving to Miami. Lower taxes?

            If you’re right… then brute force will be applied next – forced vaxxing for entire populations – mostly sterilisation agents for the young.

            But again… why the compassion? And the fact that you will show your hand even more with plenty still around to lynch you?

            People die off quite quickly from starvation etc. No need for elaborate schemes.

            If there’s pushback now, what do you think will happen when the gloves are off and people have nothing to lose?

            Even roided, growth-hormoned riot police have to take a crap sometime.

            What’s more likely is that when reasonably smart civil servants see the tables turning they will turn on their bosses.

            The data collected from this gene therapy experiment is more important to Big Pharma than anything else I suspect.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Everything they’ve done so far is completely illegal and the courts are starting to turn on the perps.

              Oh so Yeadon’s won his court case demanding that the US stop vaccinating people? I wasn’t aware of this…. please send me the link.

      • Anthony says:

        Link: https://ijvtpr.com/index.php/IJVTPR/article/view/23/29

        As their analysis indicates, depicted in Figure 1, unprecedented vaccines are expected to take 12.5 years to develop. Even more ominously, they have a 5% estimated chance of making it through Phase II trials (assessing efficacy) and, of that 5%, a 40% chance of making it through Phase III trials (assessing population benefit). In other words, an unprecedented vaccine was predicted to have a 2% probability of success at the stage of a Phase III clinical trial. As the authors bluntly put it, there is a “low probability of success, especially for unprecedented vaccines.” (Young et al., 2018)Figure 1.Launching innovative vaccines is costly and time-consuming, with a low probability of success, especially for unprecedented vaccines (adapted from Young et al, 2018).With that in mind, two years later we have an unprecedented vaccine with reports of 90-95% efficacy (Baden et al. 2020). In fact, these reports of efficacy are the primary motivation behind public support of vaccination adoption (U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, 2020). This defies not only predictions, but also expectations. The British Medical Journal(BMJ) may be the only prominent conventional medical publication that has given a platform to voices calling attention to concerns around the efficacy of the COVID-19 vaccines. There are indeed reasons to believe that estimations of efficacy are in need of re-evaluation. Peter Doshi, an associate editor of the BMJ, has published two important analyses (Doshi 2021a, 2021b) of the raw data releasedto the FDA by the vaccine makers, data that are the basis for the claim of high efficacy. Unfortunately, these were published to the BMJ’s blog and not in its peer-reviewed content. Doshi, though, has published a study regarding vaccine efficacy and the questionable utility of vaccine trial endpoints in BMJ’s peer reviewed content (Doshi 2020).A central aspect of Doshi’s critique of the preliminary efficacy data is the exclusion of over 3400 “suspected COVID-19 cases” that were not included in the interim analysis of the Pfizer vaccine data submitted to the FDA. Further, a low-but-non-trivial percent of individuals in both Moderna

  29. Bei Dawei says:

    SciManDan on the contents of vaccines. (First in a series responding to anti-vaxxer arguments)

    • VFatalis says:

      Government propaganda in disguise. I suppose he also debunked the moon landings and 9/11 attacks ?

      • Bei Dawei says:

        He’s debunked moon landing conspiracies, yes. Not sure about 9-11, but it’s possible. Anti-Flat Earth videos are his speciality. Those come out on Friday (“Flat Earth Fridays”) and Tuesdays are miscellaneous (“Tinfoil Tuesdays”). But he always comments on other people’s YouTube videos, otherwise I’d just feed FE to him.

  30. Jarle says:

    In the sceptic sectors of the internet I see much naming of people as controlled opposition. The criteria are woollen to put it mildly, what make these name callers so certain?

    • Tim Groves says:

      I think the certainty is part of their mindset. Making a declaration saves them the bother of having to check the facts.

      There is a quote attributed to Lenin: “The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves.” It is doubtful whether he actually said it, but he would have agreed with it.

      According to Nevada Studies in History and Political Science (1962):

      Both Marx and Lenin emphasized the need for and prophesied the emergence of what Communist ideology terms the “controlled opposition.” Under such a concept opposition parties are permitted to continue in existence, to publish their own newspapers, to make their own speeches, and to propose their own slates of candidates. The crucial difference is, however, that the coalition formed in the second stage is a sham. Newspapers are subject to strictest control, speakers are censored and harrassed or even arrested for deviation from the prescribed Communist party line, and slates of candidates are set up only with prior Communist approval.

      But the trick isn’t limited to Communist governments. The Urban Dictionary has this:

      A controlled opposition is a protest movement that is actually being led by government agents. Nearly all governments in history have employed this technique to trick and subdue their adversaries.

      Which leads us to maxim: “All opposition is controlled opposition,” which is a demonstrably false but debatable statement. Nevertheless, there is a lot of controlled opposition around, either to push agendas and shift Overton windows clandestinely or to stake out the limits of officially sanctioned debate on a given issue.

      • Wow!

        “A controlled opposition is a protest movement that is actually being led by government agents. Nearly all governments in history have employed this technique to trick and subdue their adversaries.”

        • Thierry says:

          The “controlled opposition” has been deeply described in the Matrix trilogy.
          Zion (the rebels) is the highest control level of the Matrix, since the Architect realized that some people who rejected the Matrix needed a way to escape from it, otherwise the Matrix would collapse. Though this controlled opposition must be weak enough to be destroyed when necessary. Until then people can keep their illusion of free will and live according to their belief.

          • Tsubion says:

            Interesting! I remember thinking that people come out of one Matrix thinking that they have escaped only to realise that they are in another construct.

            Wasn’t the Architect an AI?

            • Thierry says:

              Right, the architect was an IA. There are many theories about different levels of the Matrix but no one is totally convincing.
              By the way, doing some research I’ve just found this, sure it will please Fast Eddy:
              “The Architect’s appearance is likely a homage to Sigmund Freud (who was considered by social psychologist Erich Fromm to be one of the “architects” of the modern age).”
              and this too:
              “Within Freemasonry, God is referred to as “the Great Architect”, and is artistically depicted in a similar manner. As yet another religious connection, the Architect and the Oracle resemble the two Hindu deities Lord Brahma, (who is a male, corresponding with the Architect, and is usually also depicted with white or pale skin) and Kali Ma, the Goddess of Time (hence clairvoyance) and change. (Who corresponds with the Oracle, and is generally depicted as being jet black).”
              taken from here: https://matrix.fandom.com/wiki/The_Architect

            • Thierry says:

              Right, the architect was a IA. There are many theories about different levels of the Matrix but no one is really convincing.
              By the way, doing some research I have found this, sure it will please FE:

              “The Architect’s appearance is likely a homage to Sigmund Freud (who was considered by social psychologist Erich Fromm to be one of the “architects” of the modern age)”
              or:

              “Within Freemasonry, God is referred to as “the Great Architect”, and is artistically depicted in a similar manner. As yet another religious connection, the Architect and the Oracle resemble the two Hindu deities Lord Brahma, (who is a male, corresponding with the Architect, and is usually also depicted with white or pale skin) and Kali Ma, the Goddess of Time (hence clairvoyance) and change. (Who corresponds with the Oracle, and is generally depicted as being jet black).

        • Thierry Chassine says:

          Nothing new here. In France the Union “Force Ouvriere” was created in 1947 thanks to the CIA who wanted to weaken another union, namely CGT, tied to the Communist Party.
          Surely there many other examples around the world.
          Today Extinction Rebellion is obviously controlled opposition (my own little sister participate to their actions)
          And Greta Thunberg.
          And BLM
          And so on…

          • Thierry says:

            There are also other ways to control your opposition. One of the nastiest could have been COINTELPRO. Imagine what they are able to do now.

            • Kowalainen says:

              Using AI to “curate” content. Such as on OFW/Word Press/YouTube/FB/etc. Dullard muppets gonna:

              DULLARD MUPPET!

              It’s all they know and care about. The bamboozled herd needs to be lied to. Which I completely agree with. They cannot fathom an existence without “hope”. And the liars and deceivers need a sense of importance. Muppets herding the muppet herd.

              In reality; they are just as lost as the herd. Without the master, at loss in the infinity and emptiness of it all, without a shred of a clue even if it would be rubbed into their myopic eyes, deaf ears and left echoing in the vacuum behind the sensory equipment.

              Something like that.

              Ain’t fooling no one.

              MUPPETS GONNA MUPPET

              CURATION! W007!

              MEANING IN LIFE! LIES! YAY!

              🤣👍

            • I try to write what I write in such a way the AI wouldn’t pick it up.

            • Kowalainen says:

              How would you be sure everybody can read the content posted on a Word Press site? All your analysis/articles plus (all) the comments?

              I would assume by default that there is some heavy ‘curation’ going on. For sure you and I can read most of the content. How about the rest? Can Joe and Jill average read everything here?

              I seriously doubt that. Because:

              MUPPETS GONNA MUPPET WITH AI

              https://youtu.be/B7UmUX68KtE

              🤣👍

        • Thierry says:

          The “controlled opposition has been deeply described in the Matrix trilogy.
          Zion (the rebels) is the highest control level of the Matrix. The Architect realized that some people who rejected the Matrix, a tiny minority, needed a way to escape from it or the Matrix would collapse.
          Tough, the opposition must be weak enough to be destroyed when necessary. Until then, people can keep the illusion of free will and live according to their belief.

        • Mirror on the wall says:

          The states massively infiltrate everyone, left and right, and manipulate them to the benefit of the state. There was a notorious case in Germany in 2002 when it emerged during court proceeding against the NPD that the party was practically run by the state.

          In UK, the British state is notorious in particular for ‘collusion’ with ‘loyalist’ paramilitaries (running them) and for infiltration of the IRA. The bloke in charge of rooting out ‘infiltrators’ in the IRA, and who had dozens killed, was himself a state agent.

          State infiltration of left groups in UK has made the news in recent years (they slept with young women in the groups), but they infiltrate absolutely everyone (and even run some of them) from the biggest groups to the smallest factions. A meeting of half a dozen anarchists or far right will have one or two state agents faking it.

          > Germany: Massive state infiltration of far-right party

          On October 8, a hearing took place before Germany’s Supreme Court, the Bundesverfassungsgericht (BVG), to clarify whether to continue the government’s proceedings to ban the right-wing extremist NPD (National Democratic Party of Germany). This legal action had ground to a halt following revelations that the German state had massively infiltrated the NPD.

          …. The government’s court papers indicate that out of 200 leading NPD functionaries, 30 were working as undercover agents. This means that one in seven leading figures in the party is on the secret service pay roll!

          https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2002/10/npd-o17.html

          The regional states also had insiders, puffing the numbers.

          • Kowalainen says:

            I’m sure it’s very ‘exciting’ for muppets to infiltrate groups of other muppets. Somebody’s obviously must lie to the herd, a herd composed of mostly the same muppetry.

            That capability which is lacking in muppet brains obviously must be made up with libido and MOAR. With other words:

            MUPPETS GONNA MUPPET.

            https://youtu.be/B7UmUX68KtE

            Slightly genetically modified rapacious primate shenanigans awesomeness! Yay!

            Doge much impress!

            🤣👍

          • Ano737 says:

            Interesting. Given your assessment, how do you think the IRA was still able to cause so much damage on an ongoing basis before the GFA? Thanks.

        • Mirror on the wall says:

          The British state has a dedicated army ‘brigade’ that trolls the internet from their army base with fake internet profiles to influence public opinion in ways conducive to the ‘interests’ of the state. Recently they conducted ‘operations’ connected to c 19 info.

          It is possible that they have put in an appearance even on here, like about Scotland, but it is difficult to spot them definitively. It would likely be rare posters, who only get involved on certain matters connected a state agenda.

          > 77th Brigade (United Kingdom)

          The 77th Brigade is a British Army formation, created in January 2015 by renaming the Security Assistance Group which was created under the Army 2020 concept.[4][5][6] It is based at Denison Barracks in Hermitage, Berkshire and became operational in April 2015.[7][8].

          …. The Brigade uses social media such as Twitter and Facebook as well as psyop techniques to influence populations and behaviour. David Miller, a professor of political sociology at the University of Bristol who studies British government propaganda and public relations, said that it is “involved in manipulation of the media including using fake online profiles”.[25][26][27]

          In September 2019, Middle East Eye reported that Gordon MacMillan, a Twitter executive with editorial control over the Middle East and North Africa, is also a reservist officer in the 77th Brigade. Both Twitter and the British Army denied that they have a relationship or agreement. Miller said it was hypocritical of Twitter to close accounts alleged to be connected with non-Western governments while having links to the British Army.[28][29]

          On 22 April 2020, during the UK government’s daily coronavirus briefing, General Nick Carter confirmed that 77th Brigade are working with the Home Office Rapid Response Unit “helping to quash rumours from misinformation, but also to counter disinformation”.[30][31][32]

          On 7 May 2020, The Economist interviewed Carter on the role of 77th Brigade in fighting coronavirus disinformation.[33] The Defence Cultural Specialist Unit was used to monitor the internet for content on COVID-19 and to look for evidence of disinformation related to COVID-19 vaccines.[34]

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/77th_Brigade_(United_Kingdom)

          • Kowalainen says:

            CURATION POLICE TO THE VAXXING RESCUE!

            W007.

            Let’s waste AI compute on:

            HALFWITTED MUPPETRY! YAY!

            🤣👍

      • Jarle says:

        “Nevertheless, there is a lot of controlled opposition around, either to push agendas and shift Overton windows clandestinely or to stake out the limits of officially sanctioned debate on a given issue.”

        I absolutely believe that resistance might be infiltrated or constructed but the same way I don’t believe in *the conspiracy to control them all* I don’t believe *all* resistance is infiltrated or constructed.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Ah… I was driving back from hockey earlier and listening to chapter 42 of A People’s Tragedy …. and I was thinking of the DelusiSTANIS….

        Let me see if I can paraphrase the key section :

        So during the civil war… the population of Petrograd shrunk (I think to two or three hundred thousand)… a study carried out in I think 1920 or 22 indicated that there were over 30,000 prostitutes on the streets in that city at the time …. and 42% of them were from aristocratic families (‘nice girls)…

        They were selling themselves for a loaf of bread… or a bar of chocolate.

        Koombaya My Lord…. Koombaya…..

        Seriously … nobody wants to survive the CEP…. this is the fate of your women …. actually worse… there will be no police… so there will be no trading … they will be taking … after they slit your throat and roast you over a fire….

        Normalcy bias can get people in a whole lot of trouble in a situation like this

        • Xabier says:

          Many Russian ladies who escaped ended up as prostitutes in Paris, and also Istanbul – Turks adored their nice white skin and golden hair.

          Naples 1944-5 is also worth looking into: there, young boys would offer their sisters to GI’s and Brits, and then themselves if that failed to tempt. Rather entrepreneurial!

          Arabs and blacks in the French forces were notorious for rape and theft in the chaos of the Italian campaign and occupation.

  31. Jarle says:

    Not being fooled is easy, just don’t take anything as the truth and you’re good.

    But then what? What’s supposed to keep you going?

    • Rodster says:

      “But then what? What’s supposed to keep you going?”

      That’s easy! Knowing that you did not fall for the lie and you know the truth. Living with oneself out of integrity. That’s all you can ask for in a world propped up by “mental intercourse”.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        I enjoy sending those emails to the PR Guy at Medsafe… with the subject : I Know What You are Doing….

        Gratifying

    • Xabier says:

      Good question, Jarle!

      One’s own integrity, perhaps?

      I find it dispiriting and very boring to have to discount these days almost every official statement, but that is the depth they have fallen to.

      • The situation is like the economy having an oozing wound right now. All politicians have to put over it is band aids. They know that what they are prescribing to fix the situation won’t really work, at least not for long. But that is all they have.

        Governments can print money and hand it out to people. Central banks can try to keep interest rates as low as possible. Politicians can point to the rapid growth in clean energy, without mentioning that we really don’t have the copper, lithium, and resources to ramp it up. Also, an electric future would be terribly vulnerable to hacking, if we could even maintain the web. We will quickly run out of semiconductor chips for any high tech future we imagine.

        Those who are paying attention realize that the story we are being told has a lot of holes in it. If that is the only “fix” we have, however, that is what we are stuck with.

        • Tsubion says:

          I’m seeing some ramping up of the hydrogen economy hopium again. Not sure how or why that would even help the way things are going. Throwing more fake money or energy solutions at the problem doesn’t fix our deep rooted malaise.

          And car manufacturers are admitting that they may have to strip certain models of all the fancy extras due to lack of chips! Maybe they shouldn’t have added them all in the first place.

          Lets see what the cyberattack drill / not a drill brings in july.

          • Azure Kingfisher says:

            It will be interesting to see if the “cyber attack” narrative follows a similar pattern to the COVID-19 narrative: a few publicly-disclosed drills before the big show starts.

            Crimson Contagion – January – August 2019

            – Simulated respiratory virus outbreak: tourists returning from China spread a respiratory virus in the United States, beginning in Chicago, IL

            WHO Global Vaccination Summit – September 2019
            Brussels, Belgium

            – “The goal is to propel global action against vaccine preventable diseases and against the spread of vaccine misinformation. It will demonstrate EU leadership for vaccination, boost political commitment towards eliminating vaccine preventable diseases and engage political leaders and leaders from scientific, medical, industry, philanthropic, digital media and civil society.”

            Event 201 – October 18, 2019
            New York, NY

            Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security in partnership with the World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation

            – “Event 201 simulates an outbreak of a novel zoonotic coronavirus transmitted from bats to pigs to people that eventually becomes efficiently transmissible from person to person, leading to a severe pandemic. The pathogen and the disease it causes are modeled largely on SARS, but it is more transmissible in the community setting by people with mild symptoms.”

            December 31, 2019

            “Wuhan Municipal Health Commission, China, reported a cluster of cases of pneumonia in Wuhan, Hubei Province. A novel coronavirus was eventually identified.”

            Jhttps://www.who.int/news/item/27-04-2020-who-timeline—covid-19

            • Tsubion says:

              Good stuff! It certainly reads like a hollywood script. All planned. The PCR used to commit medical fraud for the past 40 years. Fauci at the head of it all.

              I would go much further based on my research. No virus has ever been properly isolated. I believe Dr. Stefan Lanka is telling the truth when he says viruses are not what we have been told they are. Many others are agreeing with this radical position. But remember, it’s only radical because people have been lied to their whole lives, especially doctors and virologists, and now it hurts to admit you’ve been wrong your whole life.

              A day will come when the whole castle built on sand will collapse much like the economy.

            • MM says:

              This is a scripted simulation.
              The simulation goal was “get everybody vaccinated”. The question only was how to achieve this. Convince the people of all their best by any means available.
              The best arrows are of course in the quiver of military intelligence. Sipping from this glass comes with the little cost that other strategies will also spill out. Mix war with excercise. A perfect script. We the people are NOT in the play. We are being played and the first rule of game theory is: Not to play.

    • nikoB says:

      Spend more time in nature, it doesn’t tend to lie to you as much as IC does. Think of it as a resetting to default mode. I think it helps us not go crazy in our digital feedback loops.

    • Kowalainen says:

      Why the need for something to ‘keep going’? How about going for its own sake. Why climb Mount Everest? Because!

      It’s silly with all these delusions of grandeur. Existence is its own merit. Add in some drama and comedy and you’re set for lifetime.

  32. Fast Eddy says:

    In a public comment to the CDC, molecular biologist and toxicologist Dr. Janci Chunn Lindsay, Ph.D., called to immediately halt Covid vaccine production and distribution. Citing fertility, blood-clotting concerns (coagulopathy), and immune escape, Dr. Lindsay explained to the committee the scientific evidence showing that the coronavirus vaccines are not safe.

    On April 23, 2021, the CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices held a meeting in Atlanta, Georgia. The focus of this ACIP meeting was blood clotting disorders following Covid vaccines. Dr. Janci Chunn Lindsay spoke to the CDC during the time set aside for public comment.

    The censorship on social media in particular and the internet in general is relentless. Here is a slightly edited, annotated censorship-proof transcript of Dr. Janci Chunn Lindsay’s 3-minute comment.

    https://youtu.be/6Vj3xGT6izE

    • Rodster says:

      They are experimental drugs and who knows what the effects of taking those Covid drugs will do to the person years down the road. We already know “because it’s well documented of those same experimental drugs, causing unexplained “spinal and heart inflammation”, blood clots, paralysis, strokes and death.

    • She ended up talking very fast to say all that she wanted to say in the 3-minute time period. A link to the transcript would be helpful, as well, if it is available.

  33. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Record Iron Ore Prices Have Rusty Underpinnings… Iron ore prices have jumped to new highs on steel supply concerns in China—and politics. That might not last.”

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/record-iron-ore-prices-have-rusty-underpinnings-11620644804

    • Harry McGibbs says:

      “The Baltic Dry index, which tracks rates for the three largest classes of ships, has risen to its highest level in more than a decade, soaring over 700 per cent since April 2020… China’s ‘insatiable appetite’ for iron ore is the key factor…”

      https://www.ft.com/content/849434bb-1311-4d89-bc13-3e6c5dc7111a

    • Harry McGibbs says:

      “Thermal coal futures in China surged to a record high as a severe supply crunch overpowered the exchange’s effort to cool down the breakneck price rally.”

      https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-11/china-s-explosive-coal-futures-hit-record-despite-fee-hike

      • Harry McGibbs says:

        “A group of 15 key copper smelters in China has agreed to cut purchases of raw material copper concentrate in 2021 by 8.8% on the year…

        “Copper prices hit a record high above $10,700 a tonne on Monday, but TC/RCs AM-CN-CUCONC – paid by miners to process concentrate into refined metal – are a key source of revenue for smelters and have been languishing near decade-lows amid tight supply.

        https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/china-copper-smelters-to-cut-concentrate-purchases-to-lift-treatment-charges-antaike-0

        • A cutback by copper smelters in China will hold down world copper production, I would expect. They plan to do more recycling and the like, but I doubt that will offset the big cutback. We are already part-way through the year, so the cutback for the second half of the year will be greater than 8.8%.

          I notice too that the reason for the cutback is basically because the smelters cannot pass along the higher cost of their raw materials to customers. This is similar to what happens to margins for those in the business of refining oil into its various products, such as gasoline, diesel, and jet fuel. Shrinking margins of intermediaries leads to a cutback on buying raw materials, and this ultimately leads to a cutback in production.

          • Dennis L. says:

            Not if more money is printed.

            Dennis L.

            • I am not convinced that printing money will keep the system going, at least for very long. Not enough of the money gets back to the copper miners in Chile and Peru. The profit margins for the system will remain too low.

              China seems to have opted out of the system of adding more debt, recently. It is the main user of copper and a lot of other minerals. Without China buying, the price will tend to fall rather than rise.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Eventually physics will prevail (just as it prevails when we try to escape earth orbit and run into the VE Belts)….. and what cannot continue… will stop.

              We can expect that the Elders will exhaust every possible option to extend this for as long as possible.

              It does feel like we are close to the end of the road though….

    • We are perhaps dealing with peak steel, IMO:

      Last week, China also stepped up measures to curb capacity at local steel mills to prevent “blind investment.” The expectation is that this could drive stockpiling of iron ore and steel before the coming restrictions kick in.

      Inability to source enough coal to keep ramping up steel production (as well as electricity production) could be the issue. The coal seems to be available in Inner Mongolia and perhaps even Russia, but it is hard to pump up the coal price high enough to cover the cost of transport plus extraction. The cost of electricity becomes too high for those using it.

      We have recently seen that China will go with rolling blackouts before it goes with high-priced electricity. It also won’t take coal from Australia, in an attempt to keep its own coal priced high enough.

      • Crestind says:

        Gail, the rolling blackouts was just propaganda, along with the food shortages in China (because Xi Jinping asked people to waste less food, and the Uyghurs handpicking cotton. All just nonsense.

        There is a silent war in the background, so do use discernment.

  34. Tim Groves says:

    Continuing in the grand tradition of bringing interesting insights and opinions to the attention of OFW community while they drink their morning coffee, today I present a post from Mark Torkaski on Bernays, Chomsky, the alternative “experts” on COVID-19, mind control and related matters that resonates beautifully with my own perceptions. Perhaps Mark and I suffer from some of the same delusions?

    Here’s a sample:

    At times I am discouraged by what I see around me, as having broken the code for the Coronavirus hoax, I see that if such information is imparted on anyone around me, the reaction is anger, even hostility and ostracism. The inability to hear or even consider alternative explanations for our reality is a sign of deep indoctrination. The American public is deeply indoctrinated, and cannot be rescued. This is a situation where there is no hope, only escape and isolation. I have a sardonic view of people trying to “spread the word,” reach others, enlighten them, create a movement or rescue people. I do see movements about, such as Black Lives Matter, and intuitively know that such things are only allowed to exist because they were created above and then publicized by our enslaved media.

    And a slightly longer one:

    I am not suggesting that we become cynics, but rather that we do two things: Keep leaders at arm’s length, and try, as best as we are able, to think our own thoughts. It is hard work. We need to do this for our own sake, as no matter how deeply we come to understand the means and methods of the Scamdemic and the resulting stampede to the vaccine, we will not be reaching anyone else. It has to be its own reward. Dr. Kaufman, whom I want to trust somewhat, has suggested that it is pointless to reach out to others with our truths. Only if they come to us is there any point in trying to convince someone that they have been fooled.

    That is what I notice most about the people around me – I had this conversation once with my late brother, the priest, who in his life had intimate dealings with thousands of people. He was skilled in human relations, and I am not. But I suggested to him that most people suffer from a grandiose self image, and he said yes, most people are walking in a cloud of self, my words though he used the word “cloud.” He was too smart to try and fix anyone, but merely offered counsel on questions and problems they brought to him. As a priest he was set in place to manage sheep. For this he was widely revered. If it were me in his shoes, I would be widely reviled.

    The basic flaw in most people, the deepest illusion is “I cannot be fooled.” Point out to them that they have been fooled if you like, but be prepared to run and duck. Who was it who said a man who tells the truth needs a fast horse?

    https://pieceofmindful.com/2021/05/09/necessary-illusions/#more-93733

    • Phil says:

      >>> Perhaps Mark and I suffer from some of the same delusions?

      Thanks Tim, I’m right there with ya – if that’s any consolation.

      • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

        also thanks. This is good “… try, as best as we are able, to think our own thoughts. It is hard work. We need to do this for our own sake, as no matter how deeply we come to understand the means and methods of the Scamdemic and the resulting stampede to the vaccine, we will not be reaching anyone else. It has to be its own reward.”

    • nikoB says:

      If you tell the truth keep one foot in the stirrup.

    • Xabier says:

      I am happy to admit that I was totally fooled by the fear propaganda last February: now, I derive no little satisfaction from seeing just how it works and how low the politicians, BBC and medical profession are prepared to stoop.

      Mask-wearing, vaccine-grabbing idiots made me furious at one point – but now I feel it to be an utter waste of mental and emotional energy, and they are simply to be pitied, if thought of at all.

      Far, far worse things are certainly to come, and we will need reserves to face them with strength.

      • Azure Kingfisher says:

        To be fooled is to be human. To possess an awareness that you’ve been fooled is divine. The ego is no longer dominating, causing blindness.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Likewise….

        I think Tim was the only one to nail it from day 1.

        Tim also got me thinking about the moon … that was quite awhile ago…. so blame him for what has transpired 🙂

        • Kowalainen says:

          Tim seems to be a wicked smart and kind guy that can see straight through bullshit within a nanosecond.

          Ah, this problematic thing with ‘compassion’ it is clearly an obstacle to be used as a vehicle for narrative peddling.

          But what do I know. Next time I’m in Japan (likely never again) I’d pay you a visit with my two wheeled crankster.

          👍

    • sorpefjord says:

    • The current situation certainly makes for difficult conversations. A person needs to keep away from “difficult topics.” The problem is that an awfully lot of topics become difficult.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      I am left wondering if his brother every had intimate contact with any young boys….

      I wonder why so many priests are like that …. surely they must have plenty of unhappy housewives coming for a shoulder… one thing leads to another…

  35. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Americans Will Lose Unemployment Benefits If They Turn Down Jobs, Biden Says.

    “Those collecting unemployment benefits under the American Rescue Plan must accept “suitable” employment when offered, President Biden said Monday, responding to last week’s underwhelming April jobs report.”

    https://www.npr.org/2021/05/10/995518597/americans-will-lose-unemployment-benefits-if-they-turn-down-jobs-biden-says?t=1620720572500

  36. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Europe forced to turn back clock to bail out airlines.

    “European governments have gone retro. After the launch of privatisation in aviation two decades ago, the coronavirus crisis has caused a sharp policy reversal as countries across the continent have stumped up billions of euros in state aid to save their national flag carriers.”

    https://www.ft.com/content/3ba22be6-20b8-4ee9-8441-7bcbb2488702

  37. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Iraqi activist’s killing sparks protests against impunity.

    “A leading Iraqi anti-government activist was killed early Sunday, security sources and activists said, sending supporters of a protest movement onto the streets to demand an end to bloodshed.”

    https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20210509-iraqi-activist-s-killing-sparks-protests-against-impunity

  38. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Exodus of EU truckers leaves UK hauliers facing acute driver shortages.

    “An exodus of EU lorry drivers from the UK since Brexit has left the British haulage and logistics industry facing an acute staff shortage and a looming crisis for industrial and retail deliveries, the sector has warned.”

    https://www.ft.com/content/4d6b3be1-627e-4784-afc5-91da326cabdc

  39. Harry McGibbs says:

    “The Next Global Disaster Is on Its Way, and We Aren’t Ready: A major lesson of Covid-19 is that there is no distinction between natural and man-made catastrophes.

    “…the world we have built has, over time, become an increasingly complex system prone to all kinds of random behavior, nonlinear relationships and “fat-tailed” distributions. A disaster such as a pandemic is not a single, discrete event. It invariably leads to other forms of disaster — economic, social and political. There can be, and often are, cascades or chain reactions of disaster. The more networked the world becomes, the more we see this…

    “All we can do is learn from history how to construct social and political structures that are at least resilient and at best antifragile; how to avoid the descent into self-flagellating chaos that so often characterizes societies overwhelmed by disaster; and how to resist the siren voices who propose totalitarian rule or global government as necessary for the protection of our hapless species and our vulnerable world.”

    https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-05-09/niall-ferguson-the-next-global-disaster-is-already-on-its-way

    • This is a very good article. Actuaries have been aware for a long time that “catastrophes” are not normally distributed. The system used for tracking US catastrophes does not distinguish between natural and man-made catastrophes. (It is easy to group them separately, if one would like, using the data available, however.)

      I notice the article ends:

      . . .many disastrous events are governed by power laws, rather than a normal probability distribution of the sort that our brains more readily comprehend. Plotted on a graph, the distribution of pandemics is not the familiar bell curve, with most outbreaks clustered around the mean. Rather, if you plot the size of pandemics against the frequency of their occurrence using logarithmic scales, you get a straight line. The same is true of earthquakes.

      This means that there is no average pandemic or earthquake; there are a few very large ones and a great many quite small ones, and there is no way of attaching a probability to the timing of a very large one. The same goes for man-made disasters such as wars and revolutions (which are more often disastrous than not) as well as financial crises — economic disasters that have lower death tolls but, often, comparably disruptive consequences.

      A defining feature of history is that there are many more black swans — not to mention what Didier Sornette calls “dragon kings,” events so large in scale that they lie beyond even a power-law distribution — than a normally distributed world would lead us to expect. All such events lie in the realm of uncertainty, not of calculable risk.

      This is a link to an article on the Power Law. https://www.statisticshowto.com/power-law/

      It is very closely related to the Pareto Principle. “80% go effects come from 20% of causes.”

  40. Minority Of One says:

    China-In-Focus mentioned in yesterday’s news bulletin that in China getting vaxxed is compulsory for all police officers and public officials, although previous bulletins have stated that wealthier people use ‘vaccines’ from USA / Europe – not necessarily a good idea. More a reflection on what people think of the the track record of vaccines in China. In some schools at least, all the children are getting vaxxed and the parents informed afterwards.

    Is it not a Chinese-made vax that has been used in the Seychelles, currently with the highest vax-rate in the world and a new outbreak? The CDC (USA) has this interesting advice for travellers to the Seychelles

    https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/notices/covid-4/coronavirus-seychelles
    Travelers should avoid all travel to Seychelles.
    Because of the current situation in Seychelles even fully vaccinated travelers may be at risk for getting and spreading COVID-19 variants and should avoid all travel to Seychelles.
    If you must travel to Seychelles, get fully vaccinated before travel.:

    i.e. advising that being vaxxed could be worse than useless but do it anyway.

    • I expect China’s vaccine policy varies somewhat based on vaccine availability.

      • Student says:

        I don’t know if this news has been already posted on this blog, but, in case not, it might be of interest. It seems BionTech is going to be busy with China too.

        https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-09/fosun-pharma-agrees-to-covid-vaccine-joint-venture-with-biontech

        My impression is that Covid-19 main narrative seems to see different group of interests receiving benefit from that.
        Collapse is not something to want, but there are some reasons to think that – at least – it should give big physical difficulties to this main narrative that wants to exclude simple medical treatments.

        • The world may (or may not) have lots of doses of the vaccine. I thought that Pfizer and BionNTech were together on this. The many details of storage and administration of the Pfizer vaccine make it impractical for a lot of the world. We run out of syringes that can reach the bottom of the strange containers it is shipped in, for example.

          • Student says:

            Yes, it is interesting to see that the German + Bill Gates side of the joint venture Pfizer & BioNTech is going to make business with China. From what I’ve learnt about energy reading your articles and what I know about transport is especially difficult to maintain correct temperatures during this kind of transports. Lack of energy during any phase of the transport often happens, for instance with food. Many products are just thrown away at arrival because of lack of correct energy level (temperature) during transport. So, my impression is that the ‘vaccine business’ is particularly in hurry at the moment to try to conclude this vaccine phase reaching the highest number possible of people. They have probably realized that is not possible to go on vaccinating all the world. Expecially now that only one producer has some sort of credibilty (see problems with Astrazeneca in EU, Johnson & Johnson in US and Sputnik in South America). Therefore also the discussion about opening patents it may seem to us something generous, but maybe it is just in order to support as much as possible the ‘vaccine business’ in this phase. Actually I have the impression they already know that the next phase could be with different products, for instance with something they are already talking about:

            https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/pill-to-treat-covid-19-could-be-available-by-year-s-end-pfizer-ceo/ar-BB1g7HBT

            So it could be like with marketing, when you launch a product with limited life, you need to be fast.
            It is interesting to see what will happen.

            • Thanks! According to the article:

              He said he believed the drug could be “way more effective against all the variants” than other treatments currently being used.

              The vaccines don’t work well on rapidly mutating viruses. Drugs work better. I one interview, I heard the opinion that there need to be at least three drugs. Otherwise, the viruses mutate to avoid the drugs too quickly.

  41. Fast Eddy says:

    This is going to break people…..

    Ontario’s stay-at-home order will likely be extended into June to avoid fourth COVID-19 wave

    https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/ontario-s-stay-at-home-order-will-likely-be-extended-into-june-to-avoid-fourth-covid-19-wave-1.5421423

    Sing along…..

    Suicide Solution
    Ozzy Osbourne
    Wine is fine but whiskey’s quicker
    Suicide is slow with liquor
    Take a bottle and drown your sorrows
    Then it floods away tomorrows
    Away tomorrows
    Evil thoughts and evil doings
    Cold, alone you hang in ruins
    Thought that you’d escape the reaper
    You can’t escape the master keeper
    ‘Cause you feel life’s unreal, and you’re living a lie
    Such a shame who’s to blame and you’re wondering why
    Then you ask from your cask is there life after birth
    What you sow can mean hell on this earth
    Hell on this earth
    Now you live inside a bottle
    The reaper’s traveling at full throttle
    It’s catching you but you don’t see
    The reaper is you and the reaper is me
    Breaking laws, knocking doors
    But there’s no one at home
    Made your bed, rest your head
    But you lie there and moan
    Where to hide,…

    https://youtu.be/yVSmiDJB-PI

  42. Fast Eddy says:

    This sounds very complicated… one has to wonder how they are able to hold things together…

    https://wolfstreet.com/2021/05/06/feds-qe-amid-everything-mania-total-assets-7-8-trillion-more-than-doubled-in-18-months-since-repo-market-blowout/

    • Xabier says:

      It’s fully a fantasy system now, so of course it will hold together for as long as is desired; then there will be a planned and managed crash, and transition to the new CB-led Totalitarian system.

      Of course, here at OFW we know that this can’t possibly change the fundamental physics of our predicament one bit, but that is by-the-by in terms of the short and mid-term politics of delusion.

      One might as well have pointed out to Stalin or Mao that one of their plans was awry….

      We should bear in mind that their expectation, explicitly stated, is to get ‘100 yrs of progress in 25 yrs’ in every field: the new system is intended to crush, rob and control us pre-emptively, and channel most resources (and we are to them only one resource among others) into this Bio-Digital Holy Grail.

      They believe they can exceed all previous limits. Fools, but clever and dangerous ones.

      Right, I’m off now to deal mighty blows with my axe in the lovely Spring sunshine, thinking awhile of Jeff Bezos’s nice shiny head exploding.

    • The Feds have clearly changed their buying pattern to pretty much only Treasuries and mortgage backed securities. This is disadvantageous to the classes that are now being cut out.

  43. StarvingLion says:

    TOP 10 REASONS I Don’t Trust NASA (Or ANY Space Agency!)

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/cRYv68QylViL/

  44. Fast Eddy says:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/chelsea-clinton-calls-global-crackdown-anti-vax-social-media-posts

    Ironic given she’s the poster child for what happens when a vaccine goes wrong…

  45. davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/welcome-socialist-paradise-california welcome to paradise. “If you like extremely high taxes, a ridiculously inflated cost of living, horrifying bureaucratic nightmares, rising crime rates, endless homeless encampments and “health restrictions” that make it nearly impossible to operate a small business successfully, then you are going to absolutely love California. Vast hordes of people have fled the state over the past 12 months, and so that means that there is now plenty of room for more socialists to move in. But before you come, you will want to make sure that you have completely discarded any lingering notions of “freedom” and “liberty” because they won’t be of any use to you once you arrive in California.” ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, and one more fun quote “Over the past few years, California has gotten a bad rap for being an absolutely filthy place, but the truth is that authorities are going to great lengths to try to clean things up.

    In fact, they just removed 180 pounds of feces from one homeless encampment alone…”

    • Jarle says:

      California = socialist paradise?! Someone need to do a lot more studying …

  46. Tim Groves says:

    Remember all those stories in the mass media of people denying Covid-19’s seriousness and then falling prey to and dying from the plague? And how Duncan scoffed at the “vaccine hesitant” and imagined their deaths?

    Well, now, in the interest of being fair and balanced, we bring you a report on someone who gently mocked “anti-vax sentiments” dropping dead after taking their jabs. Such as this one:

    A 57-year-old husband, father and grandfather is dead, in what is fast becoming a trend of death after social media virtue signaling.

    Mr. Ronald Babb, Sr. and his wife Rose, received the experimental Johnson & Johnson viral vector shot on April 12, according to his Facebook page. They received the shot at a Walmart on Genessee Street in Camilius, New York, about 14 miles west of Syracuse. Mr. Babb posted he and his wife’s “vaccine cards” on Facebook with a caption saying they are now waiting to “turn into robots.”

    Mr. Babb is at least the third case we’ve covered of someone openly mocking skeptics of these shots, then dying soon thereafter. Again we’ve pleaded with people to stop posting these “vaccine photos” with mocking captions. But the conditioning and social pressure is too deep and coordinated. We’ve reached a point of no return. All you can do is stay vigilant and protect your friends and loved ones.

    https://thecovidblog.com/2021/05/09/ronald-babb-57-year-old-syracuse-man-mocks-anti-vaxxers-dead-seven-days-after-johnson-johnson-shot/

  47. Interesting study out recently from MIT re. covid/mask/gene-therapy skepticism:
    https://arxiv.org/pdf/2101.07993.pdf

    From the conclusion:
    anti-maskers … espouse a vision of science that is radically egalitarian and individualist. This study forces us to see that coronavirus skeptics champion science as a personal practice that prizes rationality and autonomy; for them, it is not a body of knowledge certified by an institution of experts.

    Rationality and autonomy are bad things to these authors.

    • One sort of has to wonder why one is paying the money one does for tuition when this is the teaching: “science is not a rational or autonomous process, but instead a body of knowledge certified by an institution of experts.” If I had known that in 1977 I could have saved my parents a lot of money.

      OTOH, back then four out of the five authors on this paper would not have been Asian. The remaining, Anglo, name belongs to a black dude.

    • (which, in the old paradigm, shouldn’t make a difference, but nowadays there seems to be a concerted “science too white” message.)

    • Thierry says:

      I love this one particularly:

      “Indeed, anti-maskers often reveal themselves to be more sophisticated in their understanding of how scientific knowledge is socially constructed than their ideological
      adversaries, who espouse naive realism about the “objective” truth of public health data”

      • Kowalainen says:

        Haha, yes, gravity, thermodynamics and electromagnetism is a social construct. How about no?

        As if objective reality gives a flying F about what the herd thinks of it. Not one bit.

        https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/60808376.jpg

        The herd and herders need themselves and lies surrounding the tragicomedy of it all. Indeed, it is the yin and yang of:

        DULLARD MUPPETRY

        🤣👍

    • Robert Firth says:

      “Nullius in Verba”

      “…it is an established rule of the Society, to which they will always adhere, never to give their opinion as a Body upon any subject either of Nature or Art, that comes before them.”

      The motto and principle rule of the Royal Society of London, 1753.

      But MIT has been a corrupt lackey of the establishment for a long time, ever since they accepted millions from GE to “prove” nuclear reactors could never melt down.

  48. Fast Eddy says:

    Moon rock or lunar rock refers to rock that is found on the Earth’s Moon. This includes lunar material collected during the course of human exploration of the Moon, and rock that has been ejected naturally from the Moon’s surface and landed on the Earth as meteorites.

    Of the 60,000 or so meteorites that have been discovered on Earth, at least 126 have been identified as originating from the planet Mars. These rare meteorites created a stir throughout the world when NASA announced in August 1996 that evidence of microfossils may be present in one of these Mars meteorites.

    Plenty of moon and mars rocks have been found… on earth.

    • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

      your Crappy Extinction Plan is failing miserably, so you are returning to your reeeeeligous propaganda. You returned to OFW in early 2020 when you hatched some plan that the virus was going to collapse IC. When it didn’t you left OFW mid 2020, only to return in 2021 when you hatched the CEP which is failing miserably. ……………………………………..Thus you are using your MooonDeeeenierism as a dodge because your CEP is failing. …………………………… The sweet irony is that you have been duuped by propaganda videos.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        What’s this all about Dave? I need help understanding…

        https://youtu.be/bdQHKf48Mfw?t=1922

        • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

          perhaps you don’t understand irony, but you Mr. Propaganda Expert have been duuuped by reeeeligous propaganda videos. Since you need help understanding propaganda, try reading about the topic.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            Yes great, wonderful … but the question still remains…. what’s going on in the video .. Dave?

        • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

          also, that;s just one more dodge of your CEP which is absolutely in total failure mode.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            Come on Dave… what’s going on in that video?????

            It’s not a dodge … it’s a legit question.

            Please Dave. Pretty Please. I cannot wait to be enlightened 🙂 🙂 🙂

            • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

              your CEP is in absolute total failure mode.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              But Dave… it’s not completed yet… give it some time….

              And while you are waiting …. can you answer that Question…. it’s really bothering me to see astronauts doing something like that…. there surely must be a reason…

            • Tim Groves says:

              Eddy has an important point there, Dave. If this was tennis, he would be at match point. He’s served you an ace and all you can do is hide in the corner of the court and stick your tongue out at him.

              What is going on in that video? Can you explain it? Can you account for it in the context of the overall mission being legit? Can anyone? It’s a serious anomaly for the narrative that should keep all believers up at night—like when I saw Momma kissing Santa Claus, underneath the mistletoe last night.

              When the video evidence changes, I change my mind – what do you do, sir?

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Let’s see how Buzz reacts when he is shown that exact clip…. this is SUPERB!!!!!

              Buzz is asked the same question I am asking…..

              https://youtu.be/mhTqrSX5N4M?t=157

            • Kowalainen says:

              Tim, well, you obviously take the perspective of both sides to gain a better understanding of the alleged moon landing and of it being a hoax.

              I know it might come off as egoistic, but knowledge and wisdom is precious. Life and existence is by default for a little while.

              The comedy arrives as a bonus when the narrative peddlers flail about with their master suppression “techniques”.

              FE sniffs it out like a goddamned blood hound and stoke the flames furiously. Repeat after me:

              COMEDY GOLD!

              🤣👍

            • Sam says:

              Some fat adult kid harassing old people? That’s what I see. Get a job punk! That’s what I see on the video

            • lol

              that’s exactly what I saw too.–which was what was happening.

              Someone clearly mentally disturbed harassing elderly people who he thinks won’t fight back–until he got punched.

              loved that bit

              seems interpretation is what people need it to be to patch up their own weak spots

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Come on Sam… there’s no fat guy here… help me understand Sam…. surely you will have an explanation?

              https://youtu.be/bdQHKf48Mfw?t=1921

            • Tim Groves says:

              I would have sworn on the Bible and taken the money for the charity of my choice. But then again, I’m unscrupulous.

              Peter Gabriel (Genesis) would have done the same.

              Farmer, who knows not when to sow,
              Consults the old man clutching money in his hand.
              And with a shrug,
              The old man smiled,
              Took the money, left the farmer wild.
              And the changes of no consequence will pick up the reins from nowhere.
              Nowhere.

              Despair that tires the world brings the old man laughter.
              The laughter of the world only grieves him, believe him,
              The old man’s guide is chance.

              https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=KVlVfR0inYA&list=RDAMVMKVlVfR0inYA

            • Fast Eddy says:

              I would have sworn on the bible … then taken the 5k and bought a big bag of coke and pills … and blown the rest on lap dances.

        • geno mir says:

          I wonder, Eddy, how you are able to unearth all those moon hoax videos and articles and talk endlessly about them but somehow you forget to drop the real bomb. Why you don’t speak about the ‘Santa Claus’ conversation during Apollo 11 mission?! Why, Eddy? Why are you throwing away diamonds for coal lumps?
          Be aware that fixations ruin one’s mind no matter how strong one’s mind is. Fixations work as speeding with blinders, suddenly someone will hit you from the side lane and you won’t even notice. It is of utmost importance to always have spare capacity. No need to thank me.

        • geno mir says:

          Ok, I watched it. So what. Hoax or no hoax?! What difference does it make? To be honest I don’t have firm conclusion on the moon landings, there are a lot of evidences they are faked and some that they were not. But I am asking again, what difference does it make? There is no hydrocarbons on moon (or mars). Even if the landings are real, they are nothing more than a token, glass pearl to show on your attire during a cocktails party. Industrial civilization needs very well defined environment with robust and working ecosystems and abundance of hydrocarbons and material resources and even if ours were not at the end of their ‘abundance’ the space would have been a pipe dream and mostly symbolism and supplement for greatness and relevance. Wise men do not have interest in supplements 😉

        • first accurate statement in many a year

  49. wratfink says:

    Apparently, the API of US tight oil fields is getting higher. Not a good outlook for transportation fuel production. From Mike Shellman’s site:

    https://www.oilystuffblog.com/forum/forum-stuff/is-light-tight-oil-getting-lighter