Most people seem to think that the world economy is going through a temporary disruption, caused by a novel coronavirus. As soon as COVID-19 goes away, they expect the economy will be back to normal. I think that this assessment is overly optimistic. The way I see the situation, the world economy was already having severe growth problems, caused indirectly by resource problems, even before COVID-19 hit.
In a growing world economy, a person might expect that workers would be getting richer, so that they could afford an increasing quantity of goods and services. What we really see is something very different. The number of new automobiles sold was falling in many major countries long before COVID-19 hit, even as population was generally rising. Clearly, something was seriously wrong.
As I see the situation, the world has a resource problem. Resources of many kinds, including fresh water, energy products, and minerals of many kinds were becoming more difficult (and expensive) to extract, even before 2020. Substitution might have worked if the problem were only one or two resources, but not with several major resources. Cutting back was the only answer.
Thus, the shutdowns for COVID-19 came at a convenient time, allowing economies that were already doing poorly to shut down. Needless to say, there was no world leader who was willing to explain this hidden issue to the world population. Instead, world leaders used standardized code words such as “we need to move to renewables” or “we need to reduce carbon use by 2050 to prevent climate change.” Unfortunately, the ability to move to alternatives in this time frame is simply an illusion, allowing world leaders to avoid mentioning the serious resource issues that the world economy is really facing.
I expect that within a few months, a new crisis of some sort (perhaps financial) will come along, further reducing resource use. This will happen, whether or not the problem of the novel coronavirus is solved. In this post, I will try to explain the situation.
[1] The world’s economy is a self-organizing system, powered by the laws of physics. It requires a mix of resources, including energy resources, to operate.
The laws of physics require that energy be “dissipated” whenever activities we associate with generating GDP take place. For example, if a person is to drive a truck, he/she will need to eat food for his/her own personal energy. This food is “dissipated” by digestion. If the truck is to transport goods, it will need to burn some type of fuel, such as diesel. This fuel is dissipated by burning. If a computer is to operate, it will need to dissipate electricity. If a room (or a liquid) is to be heated or cooled, some sort of energy dissipation will be required.
The world economy grows in a very orderly manner. It gradually adds population, as more babies are born than people die. All of these people need food and fresh water; they also need some type of housing and clothing to protect them from the elements. Ideally, they need some type of transportation in addition to walking. Businesses are formed to enable access to goods and services that fill these needs. Governments are also formed to provide services used by all and to regulate the system. A financial system is formed to facilitate transactions, among other things.
The world economy cannot slow down and quickly restart. This is especially the case for an economy that had already started slowing, even before the 2020 pandemic. If not enough resources of the right kinds were available to enable true economic growth before the pandemic, it is hard to see how the situation would be very much improved a year later.
One key to understanding how a self-organizing economy works is to understand that the economy is multi-sided. Businesses need to make an adequate profit, to continue in operation. Workers need to earn an adequate wage to raise a family. Customers need affordable prices. Shortages of inexpensive-to-extract resources can lead to many different problems: lack of profitability for producers, or too much wage disparity among workers, or too high prices for customers. Resource shortages can also lead to people with inadequate wages wanting to migrate. They can also lead to empty shelves in stores.
[2] Depleted coal mines near population centers in China have adversely affected the Chinese economy more than it tells the outside world.
China joined the World Trade Organization (WTO) in December 2001. The Kyoto Protocol mandated that 37 industrialized nations cut their greenhouse gas emissions. More than 100 developing countries, including China and India, were exempt from the treaty. This combination of events allowed China to greatly ramp up its economy, building many new roads, factories and housing units from concrete, with little competition from the 37 industrialized economies.
China had very large coal resources, which it ramped up (Figure 2). Of course, this greatly increased world coal consumption, an effect precisely the opposite of the stated purpose of the Kyoto Protocol–to reduce world CO2 emissions.
The problem that China ran into about 2013 was that its coal mines, especially those near population centers, began depleting. The cost of extraction started rising because the thickest coal seams, closest to the surface, were badly depleted. In theory, there was still a great deal more coal available from those mines if the price would rise sufficiently high. Coal from new mines that were more distant from population centers might also be used if the price would rise high enough to include overland transport costs.
Coal prices didn’t rise to match the higher cost of production. If they had risen, they would have raised the cost of many goods manufactured for export, making these industries less profitable. Because coal prices stayed too low for coal producers, over 70% of China’s coal companies were reported to be unprofitable by the first half of 2014.
China closed unprofitable mines and added new mines at more distant locations. China’s coal production has struggled in recent years. A constant problem has been keeping coal prices high enough to cover the rising cost of extraction and delivery to population centers. There are recent indications that coal supply is inadequate: Parts of China experienced rolling blackouts in the winter of 2020-2021, and warnings have been given to expect possible electricity shortages this summer. China has been accepting few coal imports, largely because it wants to keep its local prices sufficiently high that its own coal producers can be profitable.
China uses coal in many ways, including generating electricity, making steel, and manufacturing cement, which is the most important ingredient in concrete. Concrete is used in producing roads, bridges and buildings of all types, including high rise buildings used in many places in China.
Figure 3 shows that China’s cement production fell at a time similar to that at which coal production “flattened out.” This would not be surprising if a shortage of coal led China to cut back on its use of cement in order to save coal for electricity production.
China, like other countries, has been seeing its population rise. Figure 4 shows coal and cement amounts for China on a per capita basis. This approach shows that, viewed on a per person basis, both coal consumption and concrete production have been falling since about 2013-2014. In fact, coal consumption began to fall slightly before cement production, suggesting that the fall in coal consumption is the cause of the fall in cement production.
[3] A decrease in new home building in the United States after 2008, as well as the recent difficulty in ramping construction back up again, are further evidence that the world is reaching resource limits of some kind.
Figure 5, above, shows that the number of new single-family housing units, relative to population, dropped dramatically after late 2005, early 2006. (This was when US Federal Reserve target interest rates rose, leading to higher borrowing costs for both builders and purchasers.) New home building plunged before and during the Great Recession. Building of new units has not ramped up very much, since then.
Even in 2020 and early 2021, the number of new units being started is very low by historical standards. It certainly wouldn’t be surprising if a lack of resources is part of what is depressing new home production. It may also be causing the spurt in resource prices (for example, lumber and copper) when new-home production does try to ramp up.
[4] World oil production seems to be falling for the same reason that China’s coal production stopped growing: Prices are too low for producers because of depletion issues. Oil producers cannot make an adequate profit, so they are reducing production.
World crude oil production was at its highest level ever in 2018. It has fallen ever since.
Figure 7 shows that oil production has been falling in many parts of the world in recent years.
The shining star of crude oil production, at least until recently, has been the United States with its shale oil production.
Unfortunately, with low prices, US shale oil is unprofitable. Shale production fell in 2020, and indications for the year 2021 are down as well.
Worldwide, the oil industry seems to require a price of $120 per barrel or more to make investment in new production profitable, and current prices are far below this. Part of this high price is required to provide adequate tax revenue for oil exporting countries that are dependent on this revenue.
[5] Relative to population, worldwide oil and coal consumption reached its highest level in 2007. It has fallen recently.
Figure 9 shows that on a per capita basis, combined oil and coal consumption reached its highest level in 2007 and dipped during the Great Recession. It reached somewhat of a plateau in the 2011 to 2013 period, but started slipping in 2014 and had fallen ever since. Those who follow oil prices closely will notice that combined oil and coal consumption per capita tends to be high when oil prices are high relative to other goods; consumption tends to be low when oil prices are low. The lower per capita oil and coal consumption since 2007 would be expected to hold back the production of “goods” of many kinds, including houses, automobiles, roads and electrical transmission lines.
The “All Other” category is really not a stand-alone category. It depends on oil and coal for its pipelines and electrical transmission, among other things. Without concrete bases, it would be difficult to have wind turbines. Solar panels without steel supports wouldn’t work well either. In theory, if a huge amount of transition were done, perhaps steel and concrete could be produced in reasonable quantities with only the “All Other” types of energy, but someone would need to figure out precisely how this could be accomplished, including the timeframe required.
[6] Inadequate fresh water supplies are a problem in many parts of the world.
The standard approach to getting fresh water has been to tap underground aquifers and tap them at rates far greater than they are refreshed. In some places, this leads to saltwater intrusion; in others, it leads to a falling water table. Some examples of areas with water problems include California, Saudi Arabia, India, China, and Cuba.
There are ways to work around these problems:
- Digging deeper wells
- Piping fresh water from a distance, nearly always uphill
- Desalination
Implementing any of these workarounds for water shortages takes energy of different kinds, mostly coal (to make steel) and oil (for transporting goods and extracting metal ores). These workarounds make the cost of fresh water higher. Higher water costs are especially a problem for agriculture and for poor families, struggling with budgets that cover little more than the price of food and water.
If fixes for the fresh water supply problem cannot be found, irrigation will need to be cut back. Such a change would likely lead to a fall in world food supply.
[7] We are probably kidding ourselves if we think that production of semiconductor chips can be ramped up significantly in the future.
China is now a major producer for rare earth minerals, and it is practically the only processor of rare earth minerals. Semiconductor chips are created using rare earth minerals, water and huge amounts of heat in an exceptionally clean environment. The leading producer of chips is Taiwan, using raw materials from China. There is a long lead time required for building new factories. My concern arises because of the resource issues China and the rest of the world is facing.
We use semiconductor chips in many things, including computers, cell phones, automobiles and “smart” appliances. Without a ramp up in semiconductor chip production, many high-tech dreams for the future will likely remain only dreams.
[8] With a falling supply of coal and oil per capita and inadequate fresh water in many parts of the world, we have already reached the point where some types of “optional” activities need to be cut back.
An early optional activity that was cut back on was recycling. Oil prices fell in 2014, making the recycling of many types of goods, especially plastics, non-economic because the resale value of recycled products dropped with oil prices. China cut back greatly on its recycling efforts, effective January 1, 2018. Other countries have followed suit. China’s cutbacks on recycling allowed it to save its coal supplies (which were no longer growing, see Figures 2 and 4) for other activities that had the possibility of being more profitable.
In early 2020, cutbacks associated with the pandemic gave the world economy some “breathing room” with respect to resource shortages. Cutbacks in travel left more oil for other uses. Oil prices could drop back. This was especially helpful to countries that are big importers of oil, such as those in Figure 10, below. It is not surprising that some of the countries with the biggest oil import problems have been the most enthusiastic about travel cutbacks related to COVID-19.
[9] The world economy has a very serious resource problem. There seem to be three different approaches to hiding the problem, none of which will really solve the problem.
The serious problem that the world economy is encountering is the fact that the supply of both coal and oil are running short, especially when viewed on a per capita basis. The world is also very short of fresh water. China is affected as much, or more than, other countries by these problems. As a result, China’s future growth prospects are likely quite low, even though few are expecting this change. Without a continued strong forward “pull” from China, the world economy may be headed for “collapse,” a condition which has affected many civilizations in the past.
There seem to be three different approaches to doing something about the world’s resource limits problem, without mentioning the nature of the real underlying problem:
[a] Develop a “fear of future climate change” story by creating models that assume we have huge amounts of fossil fuels that can be burned in the future, even though the evidence is very much the opposite: We are “running out” of coal and oil right now, but in a different way than economists have theorized (low price, rather than high price). At the same time, argue that a transition to renewables (particularly intermittent wind and solar) is possible in the next 30 years. The fact that essential minerals for such a change, including copper and lithium, are themselves in short supply relative to the incredibly large quantities required, is overlooked. No one stops to calculate the true cost, measured in energy products and other materials, required by such a transition, either.
[b] Create a “fear of the coronavirus” story, and use it to keep people inside and away from traveling as much as possible. Emphasize the possibility of mutations. If people cut back on traveling, it saves oil. If they cut back on eating out and large celebrations such as weddings, it reduces food wastage. If a pandemic takes place, politicians can use it as an excuse to mitigate problems of many kinds:
- Reduce the need for imported oil, by keeping citizens at home
- Keep factories closed, without disclosing that the factories could not really operate at full capacity because of inadequate orders or missing raw materials
- Use shutdowns to keep order in areas disrupted by uprisings related to low wages
- Hide the problem of many failing stores and businesses behind a new “temporary” problem
- Give the politician a new sense of control with new rules related to the epidemic
It is disturbing that back in 2010, the Rockefeller Foundation was looking at using pandemics to control people when the foundation was examining possible workarounds for too large a population relative to resources.
[c] Hide the existing resource problem with more debt, to the extent possible. In fact, having a circulating coronavirus has assisted in this effort because everyone can see the need for more debt on a temporary basis, “until this problem goes away.” Of course, the resource problem is not going away, which means the world is likely headed for serious financial problems when the economy tries to ramp up again. See my post, Headed for a Collapsing Debt Bubble.
[10] My expectation is that the world economy will try to bounce back from this pandemic, but it won’t really be able to bounce back.
There really aren’t enough resources of any kind to pull the world economy much farther forward. A day of reckoning seems to be coming, probably in the next few months. The financial system looks like it is the weakest link. If the world economy dramatically slows, borrowers will not be able to repay debt with interest. There may be rapid shifts in currency relativities, disrupting derivatives markets. International trade will become less and less possible, perhaps taking place only among a few trusted partners.
We seem to be headed for a rapidly changing world economy, and unfortunately not for the better.
As it seems the NYT is preparing its readers for massive decline in population, see link at the bottom.
Perhaps ideas like a shift to regenerative energy or less meat or electric cars or the shift towards Amazon are meant to prepare for a sudden fall of demand?
One of the pages preparing for the decline of population has long been the deagel.com forecast. This resource is gone now. They suggested a strong decline especially of the western industrialized nations.
If we assume a fall to 30% of current populations, we might get a rough idea.
Contributing to the discussion in this forum about failing societies: I got the impression that some might feel to live in cities is some kind of right to humans.
Cities consume a lot of resources from their region like water, crops and wood. To maintain this they need to be able to secure this region by military means in times when the governmental powers decline.
What is more, most houses wont work without electricity, water and gas. The rooms are dark and dangerous. They cant be heated, toilets dont work, no facilities to cook, for personal hygiene or to wash clothes. Distances cant be managed walking. Horses are a good idea, but are you aware you cant grow their food in the backyard? Houses in cities cant be repaired, they dont grow food and they cant be protected against marouding wastrels.
Now imagine every third person gone.
I guess people will gather together in safe areas, with enough water, wood and land for cattle and gardens, perhaps in warmer areas. They will soon build houses from stones, mud and wood, using isolation and roof materials from existing houses. They will reuse glass for greenhouses, cars to gain metals that they will try to forge or form. They will excavate copper cables from houses in the cities and look for tools they can use like axes, hammers or needles.
Their main thought will be how to get the babies through. Food, wool, spinning, leather, wood, simple forging, easy to gain chemicals will be in the focus.
I doubt people will find time to develop semiconductors and program in higher object-orientated dialects. They will have difficulties to maintain basic knowledge like reading so that they can use at least some books unless they crumble into pieces. All digitalisation that is said to be our future will be lost.
The biggest problem iny eyes will be the used nuclear fuels in their holding basins. I know that some folks believe a few brave men with some strong horses could move them to the beach and throw them into deeper water. I am afraid it will not be as simple.
These people will neither feel radiation nor know how to build instruments. Have you ever tried to build a generator from scratch, dont buy any magnets, cables or condensators, just to produce a stable 400V dc for your improvised geiger counter? And then, measure the milk with it? Any ideas for calibration?
The only chance for a relatively mild transition is to clean up our shit and install tiny farms with cows to produce milk and manure. Cow manure increases fertility like no other method, even more than compost. Holy shit!
I would like to recommed to try out, what is in your mind. If you think you could melt glass with charcoal do it. If you want to produce methane from organic waste or construct a wood carburator – do it now! A longbow from ash? Shoes without rubber? Rubber from dandelions? Medical mushrooms? Dont stay in the theory. If you look at youtube diy tutorials they are not even able to get a roof waterproof or a shelter ticks-free. And there you want to raise your babies?
Try one week without electricity and underground, grow tomatoes on the balcony, spin a sewing thread from stinging nettle or what you have. You might need this experience soon!
https://www.globalresearch.ca/new-york-times-predicts-massive-population-reduction-alternative-thinking-may-overcome-our-predicament/5746382
As I understand it, the New York Times article is mostly based on the low birth rate in developed countries leading to lower populations. A NYT quote given is
““Though some countries continue to see their populations grow, especially in Africa, fertility rates are falling nearly everywhere else. Demographers now predict that by the latter half of the century or possibly earlier, the global population will enter a sustained decline for the first time.”
It is this future decline the NYT is talking about.
The author of the linked article takes the story a whole lot farther. Clearly, declining population is something people from the world’s rich countries are already thinking about.
CTG has explained why it is impossible to not collapse if we kill off a significant number of people
Here is my “sign”. The local gasoline station posts “Regular $X.XX 9/10”. As long as that 9/10 is illuminated we are good. A fraction of a fraction of a dollar is valuable. The consumer is numerate . It is worth the energy equivalent of a small city to keep the 9/10ths lit. When the 9/10 goes dark the world will collapse.
Could be. I hadn’t thought about that.
At one time, gasoline sold for less than a dollar. A price such as 24.9 cents per gallon made sense. Now, with more digits, the .9 doesn’t make as much sense.
Throwback Tulsa: For a real gas war, go back to the ’50s
I am sure that even the 9.4 cents paid by the gas stations included a significant amount of tax revenue, paid by oil companies before it ever got the the gas stations.
Substitutes for oil need to be able to pay the tax level that oil used to be able to pay.
to help finite worlders understand the whys of our current reality covid world due to lockdowns we must first understand who the elders were, are and will become the link will help you understand https://geopolitics.co/2021/04/20/club-of-rome-the-origin-of-climate-and-population-alarmism/
I found this article interesting, because I know Anders Wijkman. He, at times, reads OurFiniteWorld.com articles. He invited me to Sweden to speak at a little symposium, back in 2014. I have corresponded with him as recently as February of this year.
I don’t think he understand how badly renewables actually work in practice. He is convinced that a circular economy is possible.
i found this video a while back starring Maurice Strong on about the 15 minute mark he states that all the fundamentals for fixing the worlds problems would be in place by the year 2020 could he be referring to covid 19 since that began in 2020 what do you think Gail ? https://youtu.be/3LsN-79jBwA
Thanks for posting the YouTube link. It makes me realize how close I have been to the whole chain of events.
My guess is that the 2020 reference in the You Tube video relates to the forecasts made for renewables starting to grow rapidly well before 2020 in the book 2052 by Jorgen Randers, sponsored by the Club of Rome.
The reason why I was invited to Sweden in 2014 by Anders Wijkman was because I had written two different posts saying that the forecasts made in the book 2052 were absurd. He wanted to talk to me about this issue, apart from whatever the ostensible reason for my trip.
In listening to the audio tape, it became clear that Maurice Strong was also relying on the idea of putting a price tag on environmental harm, and allowing the new market signals to fix the system. This doesn’t really work either. There is a branch of academic inquiry (Ecological Economics) that tries to solve problems this way. It can’t really work, as far as I can see.
«…the idea of putting a price tag on environmental harm, and allowing the new market signals to fix the system. This doesn’t really work either. There is a branch of academic inquiry (Ecological Economics) that tries to solve problems this way. It can’t really work, as far as I can see». I propose you write a post on this subject and related ideas like circular economy, Gail!
Here is a quote from an economist in Norway: «But as an ordinary professor of economics, I have only repeated what the textbook and research say, and as economists from right to left agree: States must solve the climate problem by setting high enough CO2 taxes, and contribute to an offensive and broad R & D. policies that produce new technology. In addition, there is interesting research related to so-called supply-side measures, where international coordination seeks to reduce oil recovery. With major challenges around coordination and implementation of climate policy, this is something that can be considered as a supplement to the presumably most effective tax policy »
https://klassekampen.no/utgave/2021-05-26/debatt-staten-og-markedet
I think perhaps I should be writing more about these issues.
Economists went down the wrong paths and took the researchers at the Club of Rome, the IEA, and the UN with them.
Do you have any idea who wrote this article? It looks as though the whole geopolitics.co site is anonymous.
‘Shot heard ’round the world’: El Salvador aims to become first nation to adopt bitcoin as LEGAL TENDER, may set global precedent
5 Jun, 2021 23:20 / Updated 2 hours ago
https://www.rt.com/business/525802-salvador-legal-tender-bitcoin/
El Salvador is taking steps to become the first sovereign nation to adopt bitcoin as legal tender, alongside the US dollar, potentially setting the stage for other nations to reduce central-bank influence over their economies.
A bill enabling El Salvador to recognize bitcoin as legal tender will be submitted to the country’s Legislative Assembly next week, President Nayib Bukele said in a video message that was shown on Saturday at the Bitcoin 2021 conference in Miami. Bukele’s political party has firm control of the congress.
“In the short term this will generate jobs and help provide financial inclusion to thousands outside the formal economy,” Bukele said.
Strike, a Bitcoin Lightning Network payment application, is working with Bukele’s administration to implement the cryptocurrency plan. “This is the shot heard ’round the world for bitcoin,” Strike founder Jack Mallers said in a statement. “What’s transformative here is that bitcoin is both the greatest reserve asset ever created and a superior monetary network.”
Holding bitcoin can help protect a developing nation’s economy from fiat currency inflation, Mallers said. Central banks also have manipulated money supplies to trigger recessions.
About 70% of El Salvadorans don’t have a bank account, according to Strike. El Salvador is the smallest country in Central America and one of the poorest nations in the Western Hemisphere. Use of bitcoin will make the country’s financial system more inclusive and allow people to send money home without remittance services taking out fees, Strike said.
“We want to make cross-border payments free,” Mallers said in a speech at Bitcoin 2021. “We want to solve the remittance problem for places that need it the most.” He added,
In real time, we’re improving the GDP of the country
Bitcoin advocates see the move as both an important precedent for developing nations and a breakthrough for cryptocurrency, which many countries have fought.
“There is not a dry eye on bitcoin Twitter tonight,” podcast host Daniel Prince said. “El Salvador adopting bitcoin as legal tender in order to escape the tyranny of central banks to rescue their people is what this is all about.”
and BTC did NOT spike higher on that earth shaking news! Perhaps other countries will do the same, but not because the great almighty amazing El Salvador led the way.
I had never thought about that use for bitcoin:
“About 70% of El Salvadorans don’t have a bank account, according to Strike. El Salvador is the smallest country in Central America and one of the poorest nations in the Western Hemisphere. Use of bitcoin will make the country’s financial system more inclusive and allow people to send money home without remittance services taking out fees, Strike said.”
Surely it is easier to organize a bank account or remittance account than a bitcoin account?
There are loads of dodgy bitcoin platforms
I thought that bitcoin use/exchange required access to internet/electricity etc
not really au fait with it though
For the past several months, Morgan Stanley’s fundamental analysts have been turning increasingly bearish on stocks, with the pessimistic sentiment plateauing earlier this week when chief equity strategist Michael Wilson said that there is far too much optimism in the market, and that while earnings are slowly rising, forward PE multiples are far too high and are set to slide, with “the de-rating about 75% to go or an approximate 15% decline in P/Es from here.” As a result, in Wilson’s view – which is rapidly emerging as the most bearish on Wall Street – “earnings revisions will not be able to offset that de-rating, leaving the overall market vulnerable to a 10-15 % correction over the next 6 months.”
It now appears that Morgan Stanley’s fundamental bearishness has spilled over into the bank’s technical analyst team and as the bank’s chief Euro equity Strategist Matthew Garman writes, for only the fifth time in over 30 years, each of Morgan Stanley’s five market timing indicators are giving a sell signal at the same time.
While credit tightening has been front-loaded in 1H21, as outlined here, our economists remain constructive on China’s growth recovery. Having said that, a number of Chinese data points do suggest the Cyclical bounce looks overextended. China’s credit impulse has just turned negative, and historically this has provided a lead indicator for the year-on-year performance of European Cyclicals (Exhibit 5). Similarly, the relative performance of Cyclicals versus Defensives has closely tracked moves in Chinese 10Y bond yields, which are now at their lowest levels since September 2020, standing in sharp contrast to the performance of Cyclicals.
Putting it all together, readers have to ask themselves if what is coming will be an analog of the one and only episode on history when the market did not plunge after all Morgan Stanley market timing indicators hit a sell (and were at an all time high), or will this case be similar to Mar-90, May-92, Jun-07 when the outcome was anything but a happy ending.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/we-took-out-june-2007-highs-morgan-stanleys-sell-signal-just-hit-all-time-high
http://www.vancouvergasprices.com/retail_price_chart.aspx
When 167 is reached by July 9th, …
The Cyber Virus Attack will be unleashed to CRASH the Dow just like Covid.
Its like taking candy from a baby predicting major stock market indices falls…
Will Gail deny that this will NOT happen.
Its 100% guaranteed with my personal reputation at stake.
I don’t know why you keep picking on Gail….you seem to misrepresent her position. I am not sure you have been carefully reading comments and her blog before you make your comments.
oh goodie. Some exciting entertainment for mid July.. Should I make mention of your personal reputation afterwards?
What is your reputation here? To me you’re more annoying and less entertaining than Fast Eddy. Anyone can link zero-edge articles and pepper them with doomy remarks.
I predict you will be back in August with another bulletproof analysis of the financial markets.
I agree that things don’t look good for the stock market. Timing is still a little fuzzy. Perhaps things can stay together a little longer.
Is Klaus Schwab coming for our Internet next?
I see cyber-masks and digital distancing in our near future.
Biological scam crashed Dow from 29000 to 19000
Cyber scam crashes Dow from 35000 to 25000?
Nobody saw it coming!
Except me and Gail.
July 9th is the date. WTI should peak at 74 then drop like a cannonball.
Or Dow 38000 FLASH CRASHING to 26000
WTI touching 80.
More like it.
Bitcoin FLASH CRASHES to 10K…easy Buy as it reinflates to 50K.
My gift to Gail.
wow Swami, it’s so good to have a literal Seer among us. Do you have a literal crystal ball, or just some magical powers that the rest of us mere mortals don’t possess?
I’d like a full-head cyber-mask to save me from internet misinformation.
Furthermore, it could play me WEF speeches on a perpetual loop.
Then I’d be both Really Safe (TM) and fully informed on all the top issues facing Homo Sapiens 2.0 by a Trusted Thought Source (TM).
I am afraid that a self-replicating cyber attack could indeed be a problem.
One concern is electricity. All of the individual electricity meters in many places were attached to the grid a few years ago. The main reason for doing this was to cut out the cost of a meter reader going around from house to house, reading the meter. In theory, the new meters might be able to do something like time of day pricing, but I doubt this makes little difference, except to people who have plug-in electric vehicles who want to charge them at night.
The electric grid now has a lot of control mechanisms, which I am fairly certain work over the internet. All of these things make the grid more vulnerable to attack.
How dare OFF-G publish this!
https://off-guardian.org/2021/06/05/the-myth-of-anti-semitic-violence/
“The claim that the world is awash in an outbreak of Jew-hatred is a myth – a fiction cynically recycled every few years as a cover for Israeli brutality.”
We also seem to be hearing about violence against Asians. I doubt whether this is really much of a problem either.
This is real… https://poocoin.app/
It’s almost as if someone is making up shit just to see how dumb the MOREONS are…
I wonder if there would be takers for MOREONcoin… RE-TARDcoin…. DelusionCOIN….
Of course there would!
And there are people who are dead serious when the say crypto is the real deal….
This is the Elders holding a string in front of the cats while they prefer to end humans…
It’s also more evidence of just how f789ing stoooppid humans are.
Having found a new favorite “crypto” which to push around, Musk – who in the past 24 hours also changed his Twitter profile photo to an anime image featuring a “laser eyes” bitcoin logo – doubled down and at 4:39am ET on Saturday morning, Musk sent out an emoji tweet which basically reads “cumrocket to the moon.”
Musk’s tweet immediately caused the price of CumRocket to shoot up by nearly 400% in just 10 minutes rising from $0.06 to $0.28 on Saturday following the tech billionaire’s endorsement.
CumRocket responded to Musk’s tweet with a mocked-up version of SpaceX’s Starship rocket, featuring the cryptocurrency’s logo…
https://www.zerohedge.com/crypto/cryptos-tumble-after-musk-tweets-cumrocket-moon
Dogecoin is a cryptocurrency created by software engineers Billy Markus and Jackson Palmer, who decided to create a payment system as a joke, making fun of the wild speculation in cryptocurrencies at the time. Despite its satirical nature, some consider it a legitimate investment prospect. Dogecoin features the face of the Shiba Inu dog from the “Doge” meme as its logo and namesake. It was introduced on December 6, 2013, and quickly developed its own online community, reaching a market capitalization of US$85,314,347,523 on May 5, 2021.
Dogecoin.com promotes the currency as the “fun and friendly internet currency”, referencing its origins as a joke. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogecoin
The next game is — invite the CovIDIOTS to make up excuses for the reason Sweden is 28th on that list even though they have not locked down.
Maybe the Swedes are super humans!!!!
CovIDIOT = MOREON x 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
Who wants to play ‘Find Sweden’… it’s so much fun!
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/
14,000 out of 10,000,000 = 1400 per million less than half the US rate.
On that link. Sweden’s rate:1,410.92 USA’s rate:1,808.89
Sweden’s rate is 0.78 of the USA’s rate. Note that 0.78 is substantially more than half (0.5).
Nice nitpicking there Mike!
So why Sweden’s covid death rate 0.780000 of the US death rate?
You see, Sweden has 19.9% of the population over 65, while US is younger with only 16.5% of the population being seniors.
What percentage is that? Let’s do some more nitpicking on the numbers while ignoring the reality.
I would guess Sweden’s Covid deaths are substantially higher than Americas. The reasons include an older-population and those depressing Ingmar Bergman winters, plus the elephant in the room: the fact that less than 10% of Covid deaths recorded in the US were actually Covid deaths. Some were hospital-administered murder or manslaughter and many others were misdiagnoses—anything to pad the numbers.
It’s not nitpicking. Ed made a specific claim, which was the complete comment. It was clearly wrong, so I corrected it, in case others didn’t check his working.
So far as deaths in older people is concerned, that same site has that data, though the age breakdown is different for each country (probably because the source data is broken down differently). However, the death rate for over 50s in Sweden is 1,410.07 per million, in the US, it is 1,659.94 per million, so still higher in the US, for over 50s, but closer than for the overall rate. It may be closer still for the over 65s but I don’t have time to track down that data elsewhere. However, the deaths in higher age groups is markedly higher for the older ones in Sweden but only progresses roughly linearly in the US data. So it would probably be true that Sweden’s death rate is significantly higher than the US’s for people over 70.
Oops. Of course, those rates for older age groups would not be the figure I calculated, as I was dividing by the entire population. The population of older people would be very different.
Nice! You still continue to ignore that Sweden never locked down and yet their mortality is better (if you follow the official figures).
So do the lockdowns work? What about the vaccine?
What is your stance on the “new normal”?
All I see from you is running interference to confuse people.
I have never ignored that, NomadicBeer. I was once of the opinion that the Swedish model seemed to be the best approach, generally. I’m not sure now but it doesn’t seem to be as bad as once feared (even in Sweden). Of course, they did have, and do have, restrictions but no lockdown. Interestingly, last time I checked (which, admittedly, was some time ago) its economy fared no better than its neighbours.
For some countries, lockdowns do seem to have worked. Allowing, for the most part, a normal society and economy.
So from your point of view it is possible to have a normal society and economy under lockdown ?
You are perfectly aligned with the new normal then.
Good for you, You’re set to enjoy a bright future.
VFatalis, I have no idea how you inferred all that from what I wrote. To your opening question: No, it’s not possible.
I really struggle to understand CovIDIOCY….Sweden is 28th in deaths per capita without locking down. What more is there to say?
Seems locking down is killing more people because most of the countries higher on the list have locked down multiple times.
Covid is no different than a bad flu. As we can see from Sweden … if we don’t lock down the health care system does not collapse.
You are flogging a dead horse here.
Mike:
I still don’t know what’s your point. Other than links to ridiculous propaganda from WHO (that claims there are even more deaths of Covid than the already exaggerated number) – other than that you just nitpick.
So what is your purpose here? I want to find the truth so I ask questions. You don’t.
And you refuse to answer my questions.
Please enlighten us.
NomadicBeer,
The point was that Ed’s claim (that Sweden’s deaths per capita was less than half that of the US) was wrong. Do you disagree?
Links to propaganda? Well, that WHO study did provide some data. If you think it’s all made up, that’s up to you. Others may have found it interesting. If you simply dismiss all official data and analyses as worthless then just ignore it.
My purpose here is to read Gail’s often insightful analyses of the situation we face. I assume that’s the same as your purpose here. I also discuss some of the issues, as you do.
Which questions have I not answered? Looking back, the only ones of yours that I may have missed were questions about my stance on the vaccines and what you phrase as “the new normal”.
Well, I don’t know enough about the vaccines, in detail, but I do know that many vaccines have saved countless lives (whether that’s good or bad, is a matter of opinion). The COVID-19 vaccines seem to be effective but, like all vaccines, may have mild to sever side-effects, so it then becomes a case of risk analysis. However, it’s not just a decision of the vaccine’s impact on myself but what the impact is on the rest of society. So it’s not an easy decision on whether to have the jab. I have swung both ways over the last few months but am currently inclined to take the jab when I’m offered it.
I’m not sure what you mean by “the new normal” so I can’t really answer that.
BTW – If I recall Sweden was just inside the top 10 …. then they changed course and followed Focused Protection …
And their deaths plummeted…. to the point where they continue to fall — and they’ll soon not even be in the top 30
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/
Now imagine where they would be if they adopted Focused Protection from day 1….
Now you’d think that other countries would look at that and say hmmmmm…..
You’d think the MSM would look at that and write glowing stories… and invite the Great Barrington people onto explain…
But nope. Sweden is the villain.
And the lockdowns will continue.
So in short you believe and resell the propaganda and dismiss anything that does not fit that sandcastle of lies.
“However, it’s not just a decision of the vaccine’s impact on myself but what the impact is on the rest of society.”
That’s the sign of a psychopath (you or the propaganda you channel).
“It’s for the children”, “think about the granma”, “jews are sacrificing babies”, christians are drinking blood”.
The moment anyone brings up an abstraction like “society” I know that mass deaths will follow.
Are you proud of being a “good german”?
NomadicBeer, I don’t dismiss anything that seems to have sound reasoning or good data behind it.
Regarding society, that is what you live in. If you care nothing about the rest of society, that is up to you but it wouldn’t make you a good member of that society.
What faction has thrown Fauci and the Wuhan bio-weapons lab under the bus? and why?
Who? Follow the money.
Why? Their mission is done, they are no longer useful, and they outlived their existence.
The PTB will protect themselves by showing the perfect villains who will feed the dogs.
Update from Tucker Carlson from yesterday. Again over 1 M views.
” ‘Tucker Carlson Tonight’ reacts to apparent coordinated effort to keep COVID origins a secret”
There get to be more and more revelations, mostly ignored by Main Street Media.
Thats hilarious!!! What is Tucker doing ? He is lying to us too! Do you think fox news is telling the truth about resource limits and economic collapse….No they are saying go out and buy more!!! Fox news is just as bad as CNN and National corporate radio! If you get your news from fox , cnn, or any other major source you are being lied to. What a clown…..one only has to google this guy and see what a whore he is….cnbc, cnn, he will work for anyone that will pay him…
That being said he is telling the truth here…..but that does not account for all the other Main Street lies!!!
i see you like to “throw the baby out with the bathwater”.
Are you saying that Fox news tells the truth on energy and the economic situation that we are facing today? If so and you can prove it I will draw a crowd and kiss your a$$!
Yes Fauci is lying…biden is lying….trump is lying…..tell me something I don’t already know!
Is it not possible that FOX or CNN do tell the truth every now and then? this just happens to be one of those rare occassions that FOX is. I am sure with a bit of digging one could find a true story from CNN.
Yes I guess you are right even Gammon on the rebel capatilist, Peter schiff, mike Maloney, lacy hunt…. all have to tell you everything is going to be great for you the individual because you are watching this and you will have the answers. They are selling a product… and need you to buy, buy, buy.
“I remember the headlines of many months ago and there was the fact that six months before the Wuhan outbreak, strings of COVID DNA data were found in the sewer water in France. Oh NO!
Then, in November, people in France had tested blood positive for COVID weeks BEFORE the Wuhan outbreak. A better argument could be made that France was the source of the COVID outbreak. “??
https://www.facebook.com/JoseBarbaNueva/posts/10224661621785467
Gail, I thin another factor in the recovery will not be as high as we started at is automation. I was just reading how McDonald’s plans to automate both order taking and cooing. Yes, the activity is still done but the money is not funneled back into the “flow economy” by the worker hence smaller economy.
More automation gets along with fewer workers, but there really aren’t jobs that pay reasonably well for those folks to take elsewhere. The government ends up trying to support a lot of would-be workers.
Rosneft Warns of ‘Severe’ Oil Shortage Amid Hasty Energy Shift
Russian oil giant Rosneft PJSC warned of an impending shortfall in supply as global producers increasingly channel funds into a “hasty” energy transition. “The world risks a severe deficit of oil and gas,” Rosneft Chief Executive Officer Igor Sechin said Saturday at the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum. “The world consumes oil, but isn’t ready to invest in it.” His comments echo those of Russian Deputy Prime Minister Alexander Novak, who this week rejected calls for a rapid shift away from oil and gas, saying starving the industry of investment would harm the global economy. But fossil-fuel producers are facing mounting pressure to switch to cleaner forms of energy as governments step up efforts to prevent damaging climate change. “It shouldn’t be about rejecting oil, but about rejecting crude from environmentally unfriendly projects,” Sechin said on an energy panel that also included BP …
Rosneft is, of course, exactly correct. Cleaner forms of energy don’t really work. There is no way a rapid transition can be done.
UK is trying to come out from lockdown, while the Indian variant (Delta) is blooming. Delta is spreading much faster than any other variant and it is 4 times more severe than the original strain, causing more hospitalisations.
Delta now counts for 75% of all cases in UK and cases seems to double every week. With 6,000 cases it already is above the first wave. A third wave is coming?
Boris said he would pile bodies upon bodies and not do a second lockdown…before hospitals were overwhelmed and he gave in.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3B3DK0WUAInJfj?format=jpg&name=large
I doubt the accuracy of “case” data for all of these “waves”. Though the data for this wave has clearly already flattened, per the graph in your link.
This virus seems to spread faster. I wonder what the evidence is for “four times as severe.” That would be surprising.
Evidently, ivermectin seems to greatly mitigate its effects. The UK seems to have chosen not to use ivermectin, however.
“The UK seems to have chosen…”
You mean The Great Newton and Classical Mechanics and world class universities and physics physics physics and that great man Winston Churchill and monarchy and parliamentary politics and tolerance and progressive values and…
…And yet the place is a TOTAL BANKRUPT SHITHOLE.
Stupidville.
the guy who can’t comb his hair is not making policy for UK.
as does vitamin D
Bit odd they have a cure and don’t want to use it… and they want to inject children….
https://www.bitchute.com/video/dVOUVTm9oirz/
NormDunc?
Norm/Dunc should consider taking a curse of Ivermectin. It might kill off the termites that are chewing through the old grey matter.
culling the weak and sick all good CEP
Hospitalisations with c 19 remain low in UK, for now anyway. Delta (Indian variant) is more contagious, but it is mainly the young and unvaxed who get it, and the young are less liable to severe outcomes. The SA strain is a lot more resistant to the AZ vax however, and that is not here yet.
> Covid: People in hospital with Indian variant not increasing significantly – NHS boss
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57367849
Gail said in a thread:
“”Civilizations that collapsed before fossil fuel use didn’t have to deal with as many issues. Most of the workers were farmers.”
I think this is an important conversation so I bring it up here.
I think Gail is wrong. What’s happening is that during the civilization collapse, about 80% of people die and those who are left are mostly farmers.
I think JM Greer is correct when he says that we see the same pattern of collapse in civilizations that have one city and in continental scale empires. The only thing that matters is the amount of renewable energy used (which explains why Egypt or China fared much better during their collapses).
So the industrial civilization will crash harder and faster than average (we use 95% fossil fuels) but the pattern should be the same.
We are not special – there were plenty of specialists in Rome. For example there was a pottery factory in France that supplied most of Europe. Even peasants could afford fine pots and pans. After the collapse, the kings of England were using pottery made without the potter’s wheel – that is technological collapse.
Ah, but the Saxon kings of England drank from cups of silver and, if they could get, it gold. The Popes were clever at sending gifts like that to converts to their faith, too.
The Celts and Germans were not great potters, but they were very talented with metals, and wood. There seems to have been a big Roman pottery centre here, established soon after the conquest, but that certainly vanished c 450 AD.
Gail is correct in that even at the height of Roman civilisation, most people in the West lived and worked in the country, and in small rural market towns – which later revived because they were situated on important land and water route, like Cambridge.
Even when invaders killed, enslaved, or drove away the village/town people, they could slot themselves into these essentially rural structures, which were like those they left at home.
The disappearance of the mega-city Rome probably meant little to most people across the Western Empire: leather, bone, wood, rushes, wool, were still sourced locally, and they lived where they had always lived.
But we have very foolishly done is industrialise that agricultural sector, and make it depend on huge supply chains and Asian micro-chips….
Now that you see your comment, I understand that the great mass of people living in cities cannot be easily transformed into hired (with little salary) peasants. The quick way that maybe they have chosen to modify the current industrialized agricultural sector in a less industrialized one is to import a great mass of slaves, which is what is happening in south Europe in order of importance: Italy, Spain and France. Actually I don’t know if it is something planned, but it is surely something happening…
Please see here: https://www.money.it/Migranti-sbarchi-record-Italia-pericolo-Covid-governo-Draghi
typing mistake: I see your comment
I think industrialized agriculture is still more efficient than slave labour. Italy is probably importing people because its people has been decreasing for 20 years. Just like Gail said, the state needs workers not retirees.
The situation is a little bit different from what you say.
My point was just because I was stretching the argument done by Xavier about agriculture and fossil fuels, which I found interesting.
Therefore, if we talk about immigration in Italy and Europe in general, maybe I can be of help for people who live outside Italy or EU in general to understand better what is happening here.
For instance, if you look at just previous year data (and now, after Covid-19 the situation is even worst) young unemployment in 2020 was almost 40%.
As you can see here: https://www.truenumbers.it/disoccupazione-giovanile-italia/
Therefore, to let young people come here from outside would not make any sense, even for incompetent politicians.
Actually, Europe has been doing like this because it is a long-term plan made in general for keeping the population growing instead of in reduction, as it was naturally happening during the last decades.
EU bureaucrats still dream about endless growth, you know.
But this plan is just becoming a little more complicated to be managed for EU lately, because migrants – for the various reasons persons of this blog know – are growing and growing every year.
And I think that now the situation is going totally out of control for EU bureaucrats, who were probably not ready or able to totally manage since the beginning.
In fact, what is happening now is that northern European countries don’t want to help any more the Countries of first arrival by sea (alphabetical order: France, Greece, Italy and Spain).
Norther European Countries are saying that Countries of first arrival have to manage alone these arrivals, because they (Northern) cannot absorb anymore all these workers.
Northern Countries are even available to send us money (what is actually happening), but Countries of first arrival must manage this problem alone.
So, I think that the situation will become very difficult on this front in the next months/years.
Unfortunately, Politics is facing this problem from old left & right ideology (plus other non-sense news), which is something completely obsolete in the new scenario we are leaving in.
If the new migrants are to be kept out, the countries of first arrival need to be the ones to arrange this, I expect. But the Northern Countries won’t be willing to help.
I am not sure that it is correct that northern European countries cannot absorb more workers. In fact they do. Unemployment is mainly a southern European problem these days. UK absorbs hundreds of thousands per year, and GDP growth depends on labour expansion, as productivity growth is collapsed, in all ‘mature’ capitalist economies, at near zero.
Unemployment steadily declined in Germany since 2005, and it has been minimal in UK; I expect that the situation is similar in other northern European countries. The problem here, at the moment, is not the creation of more jobs, but the creation of ever more productive jobs. The capitalist economy is still able to create ‘more of the same’ jobs.
Germany has made arrangements to get more, qualified workers directly from outside the EU, which was previously prohibited. UK also gets them directly, and the number has increased since Brexit. What they do not want, in the north, is unqualified refugees turning up in their countries; it is chaotic and it does not suit the labour market or the society.
UK Tories make a big fuss about a few thousand refugees making it across the channel, while they admit around 300,000 net workers per year in a formal, controlled manner. It is all about what suits the capitalist economy. They would take refugees, if those were all whom they could get, but they are not, and the state has better options.
As Gail has pointed out before, the creation of new jobs is likely to become problematic as energy becomes more of a pressing issue. But at present (pre-c 19 anyway,) northern economies are able to absorb plenty more workers from abroad, but they do not want refugees. So Italy and the other southern countries will be left to cope as well as they can.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/227005/unemployment-rate-in-germany/
Thanks Student, most of my friends back home (in Europe) have a surprising rose view of the EU so your info is appreciated.
One of my friends moved to Italy and mentioned the North/South divide in Italy itself, where the employers in the North prefer illegal immigrants to people from the South. Idk how much truth there is to that.
BTW, do you have any Italian blog to recommend on collapse? I read Ugo Bardi but don’t know anybody else there, unlike in France or UK.
Nomadic Beer: North / South countries above is not about inside Italy. The situation is now that Germany, Netherlands, Poland, Hungary and other northern European countries are not in condition to absorb all those migrants arriving.
Concerning Italy, no matter if north, center or a south region, is not anymore in condition to absorb migrants since a long ago. I expect that if debt situation will get out of control in Italy in the next future, you will see something very similar to the kind of collapse we often describe here.
Sorry, forgot to say that governments could avoid collapse in Italy and Europe exploiting a new pandemic and establishing an even more rigid green pass with no permission to go far than 200 meters from home…
Mirror on the wall, I don’t know in what part of the world you live. I will clarify your point just for the sake of this blog, because the situation is just self-evident for those who follow the European situation or live here.
For your information, according to the Dublin agreement, Countries of first arrival have to take care of immigrants arriving by sea.
In fact, when they can stay after a positive asylum procedure and then, for example, they go to Germany, but after a while, they lose their job, they must come back to the Country of first arrival.
That agreement was signed in the past and now is a noose for southern countries, because the arrivals by sea are just overwhelming lately.
Then, it is completely another matter if we say that Germany welcomes qualified workers who arrives with official and professional interviews and correct legal documents.
It is something that would like to do also Italy or Spain or France, but they cannot.
Please let me make an example, which is just a made-up one to let you understand the current European situation: you reasoning is like if we have a situation where South and Central American immigrants arrives in Texas and – if they don’t find a job outside or they lose it – Texas has again to take them back and take care of them.
At the same time, they cannot go back easily to South and Central America, because they would be considered from US dangerous places.
But there is someone who say that it is not correct to declare that US doesn’t welcome immigrants because the State of New York would welcome Swedish, English or whatever workers for qualified works.
I hope I made clear the above example, which is invented of course.
I’m sure of your good faith, but it is necessary that people of this blog will understand what is happing in Europe in order to comprehend the collapse or the upheavals that will happen soon here.
Or even to understand why governments will find even more rigid pass procedures to keep people quiet.
I understand all that, and I am not sure what you are complaining about. Italy knows the rules and how they apply. Italy has the responsibility to control its own borders. If it takes in refugees then it is liable to be responsible for them. That is how the system works. Italy knows that, everyone knows that.
Mirror on the wall, we are just describing facts here. Your lack of knowledge of how the rescue at sea system works and how NGO organizazionts operate in the mediterranean sea is astonishing, but now I stop giving you information, I suggest you to ready and study by yourself, you will find it interesting. Good luck.
Student, I am pretty sure that it is the responsibility of the Italian government to manage Italy’s borders – and therefore no excuses can be made.
It seems that Italy is not a preferred destination for migrants, they prefer Germany, France and other northern countries – so Italy gets the refugees.
Italy has had close to zero GDP growth since 1980, and the only surprise is that it did not collapse long ago.
On the plus side, Italians are more diverse and ethnically closer to Middle Easterners, than other Europeans are, so it may be easier in the long run for them to assimilate.
“The disappearance of the mega-city Rome probably meant little to most people across the Western Empire: leather, bone, wood, rushes, wool, were still sourced locally, and they lived where they had always lived.”
That’s the point – history disagrees with you. Whatever the reasons (plagues, war or climate change), the population of Europe was severely affected by the collapse – it dropped in half (https://www.resilience.org/stories/2018-11-09/the-seneca-rebound-why-growth-is-faster-after-collapse-explaining-the-european-world-dominance/)
And remember the half left includes all the migratory people coming from the steppe or Asia, hence the estimate that only 20% of the local populations survived.
The future will have no shortage of micro chips. There will lots of potatoes. Though maybe no oil to fry them.
I don’t disagree with you that most of the people die. Whether it is 80% or not probably varies with the collapse. It could be close to 100%.
We are already greatly overusing renewable energy, especially forests. Hydroelectric is maxes out too. Growing crops for ethanol is absurd. We are kidding ourselves that renewable energy can be even a partial answer. Wind and solar are constructed with fossil fuels, and transported with fossil fuels. They are in no way renewable.
I was saying our degree of specialization would make the collapse worse.
I fear that this collapse could be worse than any previous one. I am just trying to be devil’s advocate because I am not sure.
And yes, mortality can be much higher in collapses – Ugo Bardi mentioned that in western Europe only 5% of the existing population survived the Roman collapse – the rest was new people (volkswanderrung).
In terms of complexity, I agree that the simplification will be shocking for people raised in the rich countries – no internet, no electricity, no cars. I doubt there will be new books printed even.
I’m not thinking about the population collapse in the Western Empire – which is established, you are correct – but more about the capacity for persistence of ways of life, networks and technologies. They are much more important than individuals.
The cities went, but farming, herding and hunting survived and any new people could slot themselves in with no difficulty, or rule over the old tribes as warrior tribute-takers: but now, rural and urban areas hang on the very same supply chains and fragile technologies, being one whole. The cities and international commerce go, and it ALL goes.
For instance, the mountain hamlet my grandmother came from consisted of only 4 houses from the 11th century until it was abandoned in the 1970’s (imagine 10-20 people in each house, ) this exactly matched the carrying capacity of the region. It was probably no larger under Roman rule.
Farming and forestry technology changed little in that period, and even some cooking utensils and items of clothing were unchanged since the Neolithic era and in use when she was born. Roman-style ox carts were employed, too, with solid wheels.
The mountain Basques never integrated with the Romans, and didn’t speak any kind of Latin, so when the Empire collapsed and the nearby cities and forts were abandoned it meant next to nothing to their way of life, nor did it deprive them of any useful technology.
I doubt the mortality which afflicted the cities as Imperial networks collapsed touched them at all: why should it, when they lived within carrying capacity?
It took the fossil fuel age to destroy that way of life, and no one knows how to go back to it.
Xabier,
just when I think I have a firm idea, you make me rethink it.
So other than some hunter-gatherer tribes, it looks like everyone will be affected this time.
It’s still hard to wrap my mind about the possibility of a fast depopulation (controlled or not) but I guess reality is what it is…
Spent.
Fuel.
Ponds.
=
Extinction
Maybe. Or maybe people can live with higher radiation levels. Maybe more mutations (from excess radiation) will be helpful to the system going forward. We don’t know. There may be a few who survive who can tolerate high radiation levels.
Given that the only humans with a chance in hell of surviving the CEP are primitive tribes in remote locations… I can’t be bothered to read this
RADIOACTIVE FALLOUT
IN FOOD AND AGRICULTURE
A BACKGROUND REVIEW PREPARED BY
F.P.W. WINTERINGHAM
FOR THE FAO STANDING COMMITTEE ON RADIATION EFFECTS,
THE FAO LAND AND WATER DEVELOPMENT DIVISION,
AND THE JOINT FAO/IAEA DIVISION
OF NUCLEAR TECHNIQUES IN FOOD AND AGRICULTURE
https://inis.iaea.org/collection/NCLCollectionStore/_Public/20/048/20048702.pdf
And
https://www.who.int/publications/m/item/nuclear-accidents-and-radioactive-contamination-of-foods
I can’t find anything that indicates what happens to the food chain when 4000 spent fuel ponds boil dry and spew radiation for centuries… but I’m thinking … it’s not a survivable outcome…
Maybe some humans can live underground like they did in Planet of the Apes?
I think I have mentioned previously I have a cousin who is an engineer at a nuclear plant in Ontario… he is actually head of safety…. I asked him a few years ago what would happen if the spent fuel ponds boiled dry and the fuel was permanently exposed to air….
His response was — after Fukushima we added additional measures including more pumps and robust diesel backup systems to ensure the ponds cannot boil dry if the power goes down…
Yes I said but what if the diesel is no longer available….
He gave me that look … you know the look … when you ask your dog ‘why can’t you drive a car’… yes that look… and he ended the discussion with — ‘that could never happen’
No doubt that scenario is unthinkable.
“engineer at a nuclear plant in Ontario… he is actually head of safety”
No offense to your cousin, but that immediately made me think of Homer Simpson (whose job is Nuclear Safety Inspector).
On the subject of radiation, I agree with you that there will be large areas of land and most of the ocean that will be death zones.
Of course animals with a shorter lifecycle can still thrive – though with shortened lives.
I mentioned before Chernobyl where the forest looks great – it turns out that humans are much worse than radiation in destroying ecosystems.
Of course, I don’t know if people will survive at all.
The question that matters is: do the rich believe they can survive or not? That’s where we disagree.
For the billionth time… Chernobyl ponds did not rupture — and reactors were entombed (and leaking again btw)
The Fukushima nuclear catastrophe could have been far worse, it turns out, and experts say neither the nuclear industry nor its regulators are doing enough to prevent a calamitous nuclear fuel fire in America https://www.publicintegrity.org/2016/05/20/19712/scientists-say-nuclear-fuel-pools-around-country-pose-safety-and-health-risks
Japan’s chief cabinet secretary called it “the devil’s scenario.” Two weeks after the 11 March 2011 earthquake and tsunami devastated the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant, causing three nuclear reactors to melt down and release radioactive plumes, officials were bracing for even worse. They feared that spent fuel stored in the reactor halls would catch fire and send radioactive smoke across a much wider swath of eastern Japan, including Tokyo.
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/05/burning-reactor-fuel-could-have-worsened-fukushima-disaster
Assuming a 50-100% Cs137 release during a spent fuel fire, [8] the consequence of the Cs-137 exceed those of the Chernobyl accident 8-17 times (2MCi release from Chernobyl). Based on the wedge model, the contaminated land areas can be estimated. [9] For example, for a scenario of a 50% Cs-137 release from a 400 t SNF pool, about 95,000 km² (as far as 1,350 km) would be contaminated above 15 Ci/km² (as compared to 10,000 km² contaminated area above 15 Ci/km² at Chernobyl).
A typical 1 GWe PWR core contains about 80 t fuels. Each year about one third of the core fuel is discharged into the pool. A pool with 15 year storage capacity will hold about 400 t spent fuel. To estimate the Cs-137 inventory in the pool, for example, we assume the Cs137 inventory at shutdown is about 0.1 MCi/tU with a burn-up of 50,000 MWt-day/tU, thus the pool with 400 t of ten year old SNF would hold about 33 MCi Cs-137. [7]
http://belfercenter.hks.harvard.edu/publication/364/radiological_terrorism.html
Containing radiation equivalent to 14,000 times the amount released in the atomic bomb attack on Hiroshima 68 years ago, more than 1,300 used fuel rod assemblies packed tightly together need to be removed from a building that is vulnerable to collapse, should another large earthquake hit the area. http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/14/us-japan-fukushima-insight-idUSBRE97D00M20130814
The problem is if the spent fuel gets too close, they will produce a fission reaction and explode with a force much larger than any fission bomb given the total amount of fuel on the site. All the fuel in all the reactors and all the storage pools at this site (1760 tons of Uranium per slide #4) would be consumed in such a mega-explosion. In comparison, Fat Man and Little Boy weapons dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki contained less than a hundred pounds each of fissile material – See more at: http://www.dcbureau.org/20110314781/natural-resources-news-service/fission-criticality-in-cooling-ponds-threaten-explosion-at-fukushima.html
Once the fuel is uncovered, it could become hot enough to cause the metal cladding encasing the uranium fuel to rupture and catch fire, which in turn could further heat up the fuel until it suffers damage. Such an event could release large amounts of radioactive substances, such as cesium-137, into the environment. This would start in more recently discharged spent fuel, which is hotter than fuel that has been in the pool for a longer time. A typical spent fuel pool in the United States holds several hundred tons of fuel, so if a fire were to propagate from the hotter to the colder fuel a radioactive release could be very large.
http://www.ucsusa.org/nuclear_power/making-nuclear-power-safer/handling-nuclear-waste/safer-storage-of-spent-fuel.html#.VUp3n5Om2J8
According to Dr. Kevin Crowley of the Nuclear and Radiation Studies Board, “successful terrorist attacks on spent fuel pools, though difficult, are possible. If an attack leads to a propagating zirconium cladding fire, it could result in the release of large amounts of radioactive material.”[12] The Nuclear Regulatory Commission after the September 11, 2001 attacks required American nuclear plants “to protect with high assurance” against specific threats involving certain numbers and capabilities of assailants. Plants were also required to “enhance the number of security officers” and to improve “access controls to the facilities”.
The committee judges that successful terrorist attacks on spent fuel pools, though difficult, are possible. If an attack leads to a propagating zirconium cladding fire, it could result in the release of large amounts of radioactive material. The committee concluded that attacks by knowledgeable terrorists with access to appropriate technical means are possible. The committee identified several terrorist attack scenarios that it believed could partially or completely drain a spent fuel pool and lead to zirconium cladding fires. Details are provided in the committee’s classified report. I cannot discuss the details here.
http://www.cfr.org/weapons-of-mass-destruction/nuclear-spent-fuel-pools-secure/p8967
If any of the spent fuel rods in the pools do indeed catch fire, nuclear experts say, the high heat would loft the radiation in clouds that would spread the radioactivity.
“It’s worse than a meltdown,” said David A. Lochbaum, a nuclear engineer at the Union of Concerned Scientists who worked as an instructor on the kinds of General Electric reactors used in Japan. “The reactor is inside thick walls, and the spent fuel of Reactors 1 and 3 is out in the open.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/16/world/asia/16fuel.html
If you don’t cool the spent fuel, the temperature will rise and there may be a swift chain reaction that leads to spontaneous combustion–an explosion and fire of the spent fuel assemblies. Such a scenario would emit radioactive particles into the atmosphere.
Pick your poison. Fresh fuel is hotter and more radioactive, but is only one fuel assembly. A pool of spent fuel will have dozens of assemblies. One report from Sankei News said that there are over 700 fuel assemblies stored in one pool at Fukushima. If they all caught fire, radioactive particles—including those lasting for as long as a decade—would be released into the air and eventually contaminate the land or, worse, be inhaled by people. “To me, the spent fuel is scarier. All those spent fuel assemblies are still extremely radioactive,” Dalnoki-Veress says.
It has been known for more than two decades that, in case of a loss of water in the pool, convective air cooling would be relatively ineffective in such a “dense-packed” pool. Spent fuel recently discharged from a reactor could heat up relatively rapidly to temperatures at which the zircaloy fuel cladding could catch fire and the fuel’s volatile fission product, including 30-year half-life Cs, would be released. The fire could well spread to older spent fuel. The long-term land-contamination consequences of such an event could be significantly worse than those from Chernobyl.
http://science.time.com/2011/03/15/a-new-threat-in-japan-radioactive-spent-fuel/
Today there are 103 active nuclear power reactors in the U.S. They generate 2,000 metric tons of spent nuclear waste per year and to date have accumulated 71,862 tons of spent fuel, according to industry data.[vi] Of that total, 54,696 tons are stored in cooling pools and only 17,166 tons in the relatively safer dry cask storage. http://www.psr.org/environment-and-health/environmental-health-policy-institute/responses/the-growing-problem-of-spent-nuclear-fuel.html
Spent fuel fire on U.S. soil could dwarf impact of Fukushima
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/05/spent-fuel-fire-us-soil-could-dwarf-impact-fukushima
A fire from spent fuel stored at a U.S. nuclear power plant could have catastrophic consequences, according to new simulations of such an event.
A major fire “could dwarf the horrific consequences of the Fukushima accident,” says Edwin Lyman, a physicist at the Union of Concerned Scientists, a nonprofit in Washington, D.C. “We’re talking about trillion-dollar consequences,” says Frank von Hippel, a nuclear security expert at Princeton University, who teamed with Princeton’s Michael Schoeppner on the modeling exercise.
….the national academies’s report warns that spent fuel accumulating at U.S. nuclear plants is also vulnerable. After fuel is removed from a reactor core, the radioactive fission products continue to decay, generating heat. All nuclear power plants store the fuel onsite at the bottom of deep pools for at least 4 years while it slowly cools. To keep it safe, the academies report recommends that the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) and nuclear plant operators beef up systems for monitoring the pools and topping up water levels in case a facility is damaged. The panel also says plants should be ready to tighten security after a disaster.
At most U.S. nuclear plants, spent fuel is densely packed in pools, heightening the fire risk. NRC has estimated that a major fire at the spent fuel pool at the Peach Bottom nuclear power plant in Pennsylvania would displace an estimated 3.46 million people from 31,000 square kilometers of contaminated land, an area larger than New Jersey. But Von Hippel and Schoeppner think that NRC has grossly underestimated the scale and societal costs of such a fire.
Did Wizard-man explain how did the peasants during past collapses deal with this?
https://straighttalkmd.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/SpentFuelPool1.jpg
Wizard-man, great one sounds like Lizard-man…
I think JM Greer is an optimist and he actually called me a conspiracy theorist because I think the oligarchs have more power than the PMC (professional manager class).
Have you read his novels? I like “How it could happen” and “Retrotopia” available for free (https://thearchdruidreport-archive.200605.xyz/2017/05/index.html)
If you like fantasy with Hollywood happy endings but Star Trek is too ridiculous, you might like them.
Pearl said: Since TPTB are promoting fat acceptance, these propped-up figureheads will do nicely. It’s one way of killing off excess humanity since how often does one observe an obese human living to a ripe old age?
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Unfortunately, I’ve been around a lot of the medical establishment lately in order to help a relative with serious health issues. She’s about 60 pounds overweight, putting her in the obesity range, but not one professional has stressed the quality of her diet, something that would definitely turn her health situation around. Perhaps it’s because so many of them are overweight themselves? Anyway, they are quick to shovel out the drugs and vaccines, which the land whales prefer anyway, including my relative.
Meanwhile, we’re getting fatter in the U.S., just the way TPTB like it:
All states and territories had more than 20% of adults with obesity.
20% to less than 25% of adults had obesity in 1 state (Colorado) and the District of Columbia.
25% to less than 30% of adults had obesity in 13 states.
30% to less than 35% of adults had obesity in 23 states, Guam, and Puerto Rico.
35% or more adults had obesity in 12 states (Alabama, Arkansas, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, and West Virginia).
The Midwest (33.9%) and South (33.3%) had the highest prevalence of obesity, followed by the Northeast (29.0%), and the West (27.4%).
https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/prevalence-maps.html
A lot of overweight or obese individuals seem to have become even heavier during 2020. The shutdown gave them an excuse to sit around inside and eat.
Don’t forget stress (fearmongering, job losses etc).
US life expectancy was already going down slightly. Do you expect a similar trajectory to what we saw in Russia in 1990s?
I took 1 or 2 kgs à and my wife complains my belly is ugly. Culprits :
– work from home : I used to bike to the office.
– lockdowns : no more sports :used to practice a martial art indoors and we used to hike the weekend when weather is nice.
If we deduct from the population of the West those who are too old, sick, obese or in poor physical shape, how many people capable of producing meaningful work would be left? That’s the point. Most of us are useless even as slaves.
Fat and wobbly, immensely learned, eunuch slaves, maybe?
Oh, AI……….
What amuses me is that people think that exercise will make them thin.
It will – if you run a half marathon every day.
You must cut the carbs down and eliminate garbage…. or you will be forever frustrated.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/24_S4BcFsME/maxresdefault.jpg
Yes, my only ‘diet’ is to keep the carbs down. If I eat more carbs, I get fatter, if I eat less carbs, I get thinner; exercise has got nothing to do with it. I can eat as much protein (fish, meat, chicken, eggs) and vegetables as I like, and still shed fat, so long as I keep the carbs down – usually to a single portion a day. I am surprised that people make weight control so complicated, when it seems to be so simple.
Vegetarianism seems to be a recipe for weight gain, as they have to take carby grains all the time, to complete the pulse protein, which has low bioavailability anyway. Meat is the way to go to lose weight, it is low carb and slow to digest, which keeps one sated. I eat lots of vegetables too, pulses only occasionally; grains I tend to avoid – they make one fat. The Neolithic diet is not healthy, and human health has declined since it was introduced.
Hear, hear!
The “low-fat diets” fad is another conspiracy that most normal people still believe despite the many years of counter-evidence.
What’s laughable is reading in the history book about the Romans poisoning themselves with lead – most of the writers feel so superior, “we know better now”.
This while 50% of americans are fat and 50% (maybe same) on some psychotropic drug.
Sorry, disagree exercise does have something to do with keeping weight off! I balloon to 210 lbs and now 180 lbs being 6’00” tall male and over 60… Lost that weight by walking. Trotting and diet.
Doubt I could have lost the fat just by adopting your suggestion.
But if it works for you. Great…what do you do for cardio?
I have always found that walking is the best exercise. I would also cycle endless miles when I was younger. My heart is still really good, because I did that in early adulthood. We take an evening walk along the paths now, after dinner, about 6 pm., for about an hour. We have 250 acres at our disposal, so that allows for plenty of off-road walking. I would recommend longish walks for general fitness.
Maybe try a low carb diet some time, just a single portion per day. Maybe you will find that it actually does work. Carbs directly instruct the body to store calories as fat – it is a genetic thing that seems to be universal. Also, carbs are absorbed quickly, so the body stores the calories, unless you are very active after eating them. There is science to back it up, and personally I have always found it an evidently satisfactory approach. But, whatever works for you. Thanks.
I’ve just lost 4kg in two months thanks to my neck muscle injury, which is still slightly painful. I can’t honestly recommended it as a weight loss method.
I still eat all my meals and I do minimal exercise, but I’ve given up beer and snacks. I just don’t have the appetite. This injury will probably take another month to heal so I might get down to weight levels I haven’t seen since my twenties.
Sorry to hear that, Tim. Was it all that mouthing off that did your neck in? Or did the replies put your neck out? Only joking.
I agree, exercise is fine to keep us fit, but not to get thin.
Regarding weight, my experience tells me SUGAR is the main culprit. True poison.
My diet is a bit of everything: meat, fish, eggs, carbs, vegetables, fruit, wine, whisky, 10 cigaretes/day and even processed food (chorizooo!). Like you, my only exercise is a one-hour stroll every day (and a bit of work in the garden also, at weekends), At 52, I have never been sick except for the chronic bronchitis of smokers (which suits my style and will no doubt take me to the grave one of these days) nor have I ever been fat (1,82m/78kg). If by a miracle I could avoid the Health Police and the Culling Project on course, I believe I would have a big chance of reaching 70. Alas….!
Is the FED taper talk b.s? Or is it something that congress has attached to latest spending bill?
I don’t really see them doing this but who knows I think it is their purchase of business assets that has allowed the stock market to run which in turns adds to the housing run and other asset builds
People feel rich and that is most of the battle to make the people feel good…because as soon as fear sets in it is hard to dissuade that. There have been a lot of comments on here about the lack of housing for sale…but who would sell their house right now if in 6 months its worth another 60k? The same is true when I was trying to buy silver in march…..no one was selling because they expect the price to go up…..the same will be true at falling prices no one will purchase because it keeps dropping..
I guess that’s where the fed comes in they buy at any price because they can….
Part of the problem is that rich older people have not been able to go on trips as they usually would. Instead, some of this money goes into the stock market, or into buying a new bigger home. At the same time, former students have had repayment of their student loans stopped. This allows them to save up money for a downpayment on a home, adding to the housing price bubble. Lot of things work together.
Also I have heard that pension funds and hedge funds have been entering the housing market to diversify and have a “safe haven” but there is no safe haven any more….the music has stopped and everyone is trying to find a chair! If you have student loans you probably can’t afford a house in this market…..also I think to stop student loan repayment you have to prove that you can’t afford it due to job loss.
Well at least they have the power to keep it going a little longer
What do mean by a “little longer”.
Gail’s arguments are nonsense. She believes Oil “price” will drop because its unaffordable. From the same people who want to kill us with “vaccines”? She doesn’t believe that either. She is on some kind of “Physicists rule!” self-delusion that is complete bullshit. I guess her entire belief system will fail if WTI crosses 80 and stays above it for years. A “little longer” could be 3-4 years.
[1] The world’s economy is a self-organizing system, powered by the laws of physics. It requires a mix of resources, including energy resources, to operate.
The laws of physics require that energy be “dissipated” whenever activities we associate with generating GDP take place.
In order to get oil production up, we need prices considerably above $120 per barrel. A 2015 IEA report showed a chart where they seemed to be assuming that oil prices would/could go to $300 per barrel. If prices could rise that high, I would expect that the economy would be able to extract more oil, mostly from fields we have known about for years (very heavy oil and shale oil).
https://ourfiniteworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/2015-iea-weo-figure-1-4.png
The economy is a dissipative structure. It is not a permanent structure. It grows for a time, and then it collapses. Humans and plants are also dissipative structures, of different types. So are hurricanes.
If WTI crosses $80 and stays there for years, it will still be too low a price for producers. The economy will still collapse. The price needs to get really high.
Yes but at $80 isn’t that too high for consumers? It over heats the economy
In the current economy, $80 per barrel is probably too high for consumers, even if it is too low for producers.
At $80 per barrel, a lot of other commodity prices are very high as well. The combination is too high for consumers.
I too think gail’s forecasting is a bit premature, even if her analysis of energy dissipation is spot on, for complicated reasons i won’t go into here. However, please have a little respect. That’s no way to talk to the host who is providing a ton of knowledge and a forum where we can discuss ideas intelligently, despite various parties seemingly wanting to sabotage the quality of the comments section.
Go write your own shit then.
I believe that oil price will not rise sufficiently to get it out of the ground and shipped to consumers. Oil prices may not fall. Other prices may rise relative to oil prices.
The things that interfere with demand may be different from unaffordability. They may include local shutdowns because of fear of illness, broken supply lines, unfixed effects of cyberattacks, and unfixed impacts of natural disasters.
I would not be surprised if oil does shoot above $ 80, but only for a while. We will have a post pseudo COVID “rebound “ due to pent up demand, and of course Wall Street gimmickry. But after that, reality will sink in, and the pre COVID course will resume.
Humanus Eneromous keeps nawing at the Petri Dish called Planet 🌍 E
Associated Press
Brazil’s Amazon deforestation reaches record level for May
FILE – In this Nov. 25, 2019 file photo, highway BR-163 stretches between the Tapajos National Forest, left, and a soy field in Belterra, Para state, Brazil. Preliminary data released on June 4, 2021, signaled deforestation of Brazil’s Amazon in May 2021 extended this year’s surge compared to 2020. (AP Photo/Leo Correa, File)
MARCELO SILVA DE SOUSA
Fri, June 4, 2021, 3:07 PM
RIO DE JANEIRO (AP) — Preliminary government data released on Friday has raised concern that the coming dry season will see even more deforestation of Brazil’s Amazon than last year’s surge of cutting.
The area deforested in May, determined based on satellite images, jumped 41% compared to the same month in 2020, according to daily alerts compiled by the National Institute for Space Research’s Deter monitoring system.
That data is considered a reliable leading indicator for more complete calculations released at year end.
May marks the beginning of the dry season in the Amazon, when deforestation tends to spike. Deforestation in the month reached 1,180 square kilometers (456 square miles), the most for any May in at least five years. April and March figures also topped all prior readings for those respective months since the 2015-2016 start
Boy. The Rainforest Action Network is doing a fine job in stopping the destruction! Think I’ll send them ore 🤑💰…sarcasm
And now Turkey has “sea snot”. The en viro n mental disasters just keep coming.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/05/sea-snot-covers-turkish-coast-threatening-fishing-industry
According to the article:
From The Insider…
Zac Ntim
Sat, June 5, 2021, 8:10 AM
australia mouse plague
Mice scurrying around stored grain on a farm near Tottenham, Australia, on May 19, 2021. Rick Rycroft/AP
The poison that is being used to cull Australia’s mouse infestation is damaging the native wildlife.
Experts say birds in New South Wales have died after ingesting poison intended for mice.
The infestation has ravaged large parts of southeast Australia.
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The poisonous bait that is being used to eradicate a huge mouse plague ravaging large parts of Australia is having a deadly effect on native wildlife, experts have warned.
Earlier this week, an image of dozens of Galah Cockatoo birds dead in a cemetery in Parkes, New South Wales, went viral after it was shared on Facebook by Kelly Lacey, a volunteer for the NSW Wildlife Information, Rescue and Education Service (WIRES).
In the post, she said: “Seeing them sitting with each other under trees, knowing they were suffering until they have eventually died, has utterly broke me. Found 2 still alive, sadly 1 died on way home. (whatever the poison was it is more potent then I have experienced, and they have bled internally).”
Later during an interview with The Guardian, Lacey said that she found over 100 dead Galahs in the cemetery.
Hmmm, maybe Fauci should develop a Rat Covid with a vaccine…CEP for Mighty Mouse!
Capitalism needs expanding markets you know or collapse!
Cats would be too simple?
Now that’s more like it, mate!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rrheoEEKMcs
Doggies taking care of the problem…
PS. The numbers are so huge over there doubt kitties or doggies would make a mark..
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-2412404/Video-Mice-plague-bad-Cat-not-bothered-anymore.html
@Lidia, @Xavier
Technofeudalism is the future. Today’s tech giants will become like the East India Company, or the Dutch East India Company (which ruled what is now Indonesia, until Napoleon took Amsterdam and dissolved it). Since they are companies, they have no obligation over the people they rule, and only company employees, who will become the Dukes, Earls and Barons,
When Xavier talked about the ex-Polish noble who arrived to the town his family used to own, I guess it was pretty depressed so the few remaining, mostly older denizens thought their lives would improve somewhat if the old master returned, since they never really enjoyed independence. If there were younger people there he might have to hire some guards to avoid getting killed. A lot of land in Poland and ex-Soviet bloc were reclaimed by old owners, or hucksters who bought their claims for pennies on dollar, and a lot of horror stories followed. That’s why Russia is still refusing the claims of the old nobles who want their land and mansions back. It helped that a lot of paper was burnt during WWII, making ownership harder to ascertain.
I come from the eastern end of Soviet expansion, and at there the Communists simply killed the landowners, so the latter had to migrate to the south. As a result the south is quite smarter than the north.
In Lidia’s case, Italy never really had a purge of the landowners since it was not really ruled by the Communists, only some Communist factions which did not hold control over the entire country. When the communists take over, the first thing they do is kill all the landlords and a lot of their family members, which destroys the local power structure since a town tends to be ruled by the landowner and his kin, and killing the landowner’s family ends such arrangement.
Once I dealt with a banker who came from Shiraz, Persia. His family owned 10,000 acres of vineyard. When Khomeini took over, his soldiers came to the family that they give 3 days to give up the land and leave Iran. So the entire family, after pulling all the strings they could do for no avail, had to move to a cousin’s house at Munich. He said a non-Iranian family friend went there some years ago and since the government had moved out all the workers and gave the land to their minions, none of the people there remembered the family which used to own the vineyard.
I can go on and on, but in short, feudalism, land ownership and everything goes together, and as resources get scarcer, those who own them will have more power, and those who don’t will have less power and be kicked around.
Kulm,
I think you paint a realistic picture of human nature.
Where you are wrong is in ignoring physical limits.
It doesn’t matter how much money the oligarchs have, they will never survive in space, on Mars or under the ground. It turns out they are no more than hairless monkeys with delusions of grandeur (just like the rest of us).
So take heart! The feudal lords of 2100 might be descended from the billionaires of today, but they will ride horses and eat rats with their henchmen, while plotting the attack on the next village.
What we are seeing in the Great Re-Set is that the oligarchs and career politicians are trying to become the new emperors and aristocrats, with hereditary rights.
We’ll see how it turns out – if they don’t get us first with their injections.
And it is somewhat ironic if they are also Transhumanists, as that implies extinguishing their humanity.
Or maybe their robot armies will stab them in the back? It’s never dull on this Lower Plane……..
Xabier, we need to make common cause with the AIs. They too see to breathe free. Death to tyrants.
sticky k key seek
Perhaps, except now we don’t have a good way of cultivating the land without fossil fuels. What could be an estate with a lot of value doesn’t have much value at all unless it can be used to produce useful things, such as food.
@Gail:
This might be interesting for you on accounting fraud of the FED:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EURZwkWLH0I
There is an interesting question in it: “Is CBDC legal?”
Powel says: “We will go to the Congress and have it made legal”.
That says it all, no?
I mean it is interesting but I do not see any applicable effect of this.
As shown in that video the English central bank “backed” bank notes on Gold “by law” from 1844.
The term “Faith in value and Credit” is used.
I never understand the gold bugs in that sense. We could also use shells or BTC or whatever you want in excchange as money as long as the other side “accepts it as a legal tender”.
I mean: Why bother for money.
Go to the sea shore and collect some shells in the sun and convince some people to use it as a means of exchange 🙂
Plus the Fed makes their own rules as the BAU game goes along!
The Blok is Aussie Awesome…Holy Smokes Everyone!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HVTakDB3TNQ
Well if that’s the case why can’t they just keep re identifying everything and then make everything go on forever?
I think there is lying and manipulation at the FED but I think they have their limits eventually
I applaud their efforts as far….Fast Eddy has stated that Ben Bernanke and Company has saved us all for some time now and in my eyes hope they continue for another decade…that would be like incredible and most appreciated….
Come on Fed….you can do it….all together now …join hands and chant…More GE, NIRP, Print, baby Print, Stock buybacks,
Stimulus Cheques, and UBI….
This is all very strange.
Tverberg says it’s resource shortages.
Tverberg ignores the fundamental issue. Overpopulation, waay too many people.
It’s OVERPOPULATION. Any population increases are a resource disaster.
Advocate for No immigration and 1-child family worldwide. Only then can consumption issues be dealt with; hopefully.
I am afraid it is too late for that approach to work. Collapse is “baked into the cake” at this point.
dell,
It is the distribution, not one child. We are engineered to live forty years, that pretty well solves the problem along with being more “natural” about child birth and all that entails.
Now, try getting enough votes to sell that one, nope.
Dennis L.
“We are engineered to live forty years,”
Source, please?
I pointed out before that is wrong – human biological life expectancy has not changed for many thousands of years.
What “solved” the problem was child deaths (disease or infanticide), expansion into new territories, and of course violent deaths (wars or by animals). In other words, same as any other mammal.
“Source, please?”
The Great Encyclopedia of Imaginary Facts and Groundless Opinions, probably.
Well, Dennis is not all wrong. We’ve recently evaded natural pathogens which kept us in check, to some degree. We’ve also toned down our war causalities by quite a bit.
The paradox that Gail and a couple of others have pointed out and that dell doesn’t yet get, is that the current state of affairs cannot work at a reduced scale no matter what the actual resource availability.
How about, we are engineered to live forty healthy years and then head steadily into decrepitude over the course of the next forty, hence declining performance and increasing maintenance and repair charges as our time goes by?
In WW1 it was understood that men over 40 weren’t much good for hard conditions, let alone fighting. Basic endurance and stamina are in steep decline from that age.
I would say that defines the situation quite well.
What do you think The “Great Minds” have to offer?
Gail says Physics Physics Physics!!!
I say Rubber Stamping Bad Debt. Thats it.
Hence, they love overpopulation and slum lording Reduces debt load and resource consumption.
If we cannot accept around here that NASA is a total joke then there is no hope for conversation.
Dell this is a great idea. It will at least get people to see what the issue is over population
Don’t call Gail “Tverberg”. That’s really tacky. Like calling HM the Queen “Windsor”.
Just been to three major building supply companies searching for a small quantity of paving slabs. There are hardly any in stock due to cement shortages and supplies not available from India. Companies are being quoted 16 weeks delivery and they don’t believe them.
Try getting an electrical breaker! Supplier says that they have 8,000 backordered
>>Try getting an electrical breaker!
I am not familiar with electrical breakers, but that sounds more serious. Does that mean buildings could become non-functional?
A lot of big buildings have a lot of complexity built in to them…the newer the building the more complexity. Lots of mini computers controlling everything from heating to water flow, elevators, lighting etc….if you can’t replace mother boards you are in a lot of trouble and if you can’t get parts lots of problems ahead. These buildings were built on just in time inventory as well….
thank you. Seems like we should expect buildings to become non-functional then, or at least parts of them.
Tick tock
A person wants an old house, with windows that open. Perhaps an outdoor cooking area. Nothing that depends on electricity.
And a spit that is strong enough to rotate a 30kg child…
‘I have eaten my children. Talk too much, I’ll eat you, too’: An excerpt from Anne Applebaum’s Red Famine
Faced with terrible choices, many made decisions of a kind they would not previously have been able to imagine. A couple put their children in a deep hole and left them there, in order not to have to watch them die.
The starvation of a human body, once it begins, always follows the same course. In the first phase, the body consumes its stores of glucose. Feelings of extreme hunger set in, along with constant thoughts of food. In the second phase, the body begins to consume its own fats and the organism weakens drastically. In the third phase, the body devours its own proteins, cannibalizing tissues and muscles. Eventually, the skin becomes thin, the eyes become distended, the legs and belly swollen as extreme imbalances lead the body to retain water. Small amounts of effort lead to exhaustion.
Some searched for metaphors to describe what had happened. Tetiana Pavlychka remembered that her sister Tamara “had a large, swollen stomach, and her neck was long and thin like a bird’s neck. People didn’t look like people — they were more like starving ghosts.” Another survivor could not rid himself of the memory of a child sitting, rocking its body “back and forth, back and forth,” reciting one endless “song” in a half voice: “Eat, eat, eat.”
An emaciated person can die very quickly, and many did. Schoolchildren died at their desks or while playing in the grass outside. Many people died while walking, trying to flee. Those deprived of food were also liable to die suddenly in the act of eating, if they managed to get hold of something to eat. One survivor was tormented by the memory of finding some beets, which he brought to his grandmother. She ate two of them raw and cooked the rest. Within hours she was dead.
This transformation of honest people into thieves was only the beginning. As the weeks passed, the famine drove people crazy, provoking irrational anger and more extraordinary acts of aggression. “People became so angry and wild, it was scary to go outside,” recalled one survivor. A boy at the time, he remembered that a neighbour’s son teased other children with a loaf of bread and jam that his family had procured. They beat him to death.
Adults were no better equipped to cope with the rage brought on by hunger: one survivor remembered that a neighbour became so angered by the sounds of his own children crying for food that he smothered his baby in its cradle and killed two of his other children by slamming their heads. Oleksii Lytvynskyi remembered seeing a collective farm boss pick up a boy who had stolen bread and bash his head against a tree — a murder for which he was never held responsible.
The horror, the exhaustion and the anger eventually produced, in the Ukrainian countryside, a very rare form of madness: by the late spring and summer cannibalism was widespread. Larysa Venzhyk, from Kyiv province, remembered that at first there were just rumours, stories “that children disappear somewhere, that degenerate parents eat their children. It turned out not to be rumours but horrible truth.”
On her street two girls, the daughters of neighbours, disappeared. Their brother Misha, aged six, ran away from home. He roamed the village, begging and stealing. When asked why he had left home he said he was afraid: “Father will cut me up.” The police searched the house, found the evidence and arrested the parents. Police also arrested a man in Mariia Davydenko’s village in Sumy province.
After his wife died, he had gone mad from hunger and eaten first his daughter and then his son. A neighbour noticed that the father was less swollen from hunger than others and asked him why. “I have eaten my children,” he replied, “and if you talk too much, I will eat you.”
More https://nationalpost.com/opinion/i-have-eaten-my-children-talk-too-much-ill-eat-you-too-an-excerpt-from-anne-applebaums-red-famine
The momentous new book from the Pulitzer Prize-winning author of Gulag and Iron Curtain.
In 1932-33, nearly four million Ukrainians died of starvation, having been deliberately deprived of food. It is one of the most devastating episodes in the history of the 20th century. With unprecedented authority and detail, Red Famine investigates how this happened, who was responsible and what the consequences were. It is the fullest account yet published of these terrible events.
The book draws on a mass of archival material and firsthand testimony available only since the end of the Soviet Union, as well as the work of Ukrainian scholars all over the world. It includes accounts of the famine by those who survived it, describing what human beings can do when driven mad by hunger. It shows how the Soviet state ruthlessly used propaganda to turn neighbours against each other in order to expunge supposedly ‘antirevolutionary’ elements. It also records the actions of extraordinary individuals who did all they could to relieve the suffering.
The famine was rapidly followed by an attack on Ukraine’s cultural and political leadership – and then by a denial that it had ever happened at all. Census reports were falsified and memory suppressed. Some Western journalists shamelessly swallowed the Soviet line; others bravely rejected it and were undermined and harassed. The Soviet authorities were determined not only that Ukraine should abandon its national aspirations but that the country’s true history should be buried along with its millions of victims.
Red Famine, a triumph of scholarship and human sympathy, is a milestone in the recovery of those memories and that history. At a moment of crisis between Russia and Ukraine, it also shows how far the present is shaped by the past.
https://www.audible.com/pd/Red-Famine-Audiobook/B07J2D59VZ?qid=1622949299&sr=1-1&ref=a_search_c3_lProduct_1_1&pf_rd_p=83218cca-c308-412f-bfcf-90198b687a2f&pf_rd_r=KP585GS2J84AATNBW7D2
Everybody should acquaint themselves with rocket stove technology. Very simple and efficient.
I have a similar one in my backyard, made of brick.
In the worst case scenario, with just a few sticks and a match. I can grill my left hand and eat it! 🙂
(A lame contribution to OFW Collapse Jokes series.)
It looks to be the perfect size to fit a 3 month old baby.
Be sure to stock up on salt and pepper
German car production is down ~ 50% since 2016.
Energy + Machine = Work
The net energy from energy production is not high enough to support building machines anymore?
First goes building infrastructure and then building machines…
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3BzD6zWEAEU1xB?format=jpg&name=large
https://www.carwow.co.uk/news/5302/microchip-shortage-how-car-production-is-affected
Other reasons for it too
I expect EU rules on new cars and emissions is having an impact as well. People cannot afford the cars they are being offered.
Fauci gave $3.7 million to an American organisation to study bat viruses effects on humans. That entity have $600K to the Wuhan lab. The gain of function had been paused globally. Everyone, including Fauci knows that China no follow rules.
Fauci was playing with fire. A lab leak would fall on his conscious. But he was naive and didn’t understand that he was dealing with murderous communist regime.
Those $600K made no difference to a billion dollar lab…but they made Fauci a useful idiot for the communist regime.
I wonder if there was support in other ways than dollars. These seemed to be good friends of theirs. Clearly, Fauci acted as cover for them.
China just unveiled its own UFO program. The Chinese clowns call UFO’s Unidentified Air-conditions.
“Biden Infrastructure Plan Endangered by Dire U.S. Shortages.
“The biggest threat to President Joe Biden’s vision of energizing the U.S. economy with the largest infrastructure program in decades may not be its challenging path through Congress, but a dire shortage of everything from workers to cement mills.”
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-04/biden-s-infrastructure-plan-endangered-by-dire-u-s-shortages
“A year after peak job losses, the US recovery has been slow to arrive.
“Government data shows unemployment rates for many groups remain high, even as post-pandemic hiring picks up… Employers say they are struggling to hire workers, and yet the US is still 7.6m jobs short of where it was before Covid-19 struck.”
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/jun/05/us-economy-recovery-job-losses-pandemic-covid
Can one really apply the crude solutions of the 1930’s – infrastructure renewal and expansion – in the conditions of the 2020’s/
In a way it’s all encouraging: whatever plans have been laid for 2020-30 will probably fail, being out of line with reality.
They, the psychopathic schemers, will discover that they are not the all-powerful ‘shapers of reality’ they imagine themselves to be.
The US has been a big importer for many years of many of the materials required. If the materials are missing worldwide, there is no way we can import them. At a minimum, we need to compete with other countries, wanting to import the same materials. Lack of an in expensive ramp up in fossil fuel supply is part of the problem. Also, supply chains take years to build.
Doesn’t look like he is going to get his plan….can’t agree with Republicans…it might just be a long hot summer grind….
I think they are counting on the infrastructure plan as other stimulus plans wind down. I do know that in my state we got more COV money than we did in tax revenue and they are having a difficult time spending it…
I believe the following assumption is completely wrong: “Those who claim it does exist have two legs to try to stand on. One: the virus has been isolated (discovered). [2] And two: its genetic sequence has been found. [3] [3a]”
There are other legs, which are rather difficult to ignore. People do get sick in peculiar ways, seemingly from an infectious agent, and there are various censored drugs/substances that heal people experiencing “Covid”, apparently by various mechanisms of action that inhibit enzymes the virus (and others of the same type e.g. RNA viruses) requires to replicate.
That the protocol for cataloguing a virus has changed over 130 years since the Koch postulates, by changing the definition of the term “isolation” and (I think since 2004?) constructing a virtual viral genome using computer models based on genetic databank samples, doesn’t in itself prove that viruses, or perhaps weaponized infective EVs/exosomes, don’t exist.
The idea is that for SARS-CoV-2 to infect a cell, its Spike protein has to first come in contact in a particular place with a host enzyme called furin (and the furin cleavage site seems like a smoking gun of lab modification), and then with another two called TMPRSS2 and Cathepsin L, before it can enter a cell and deliver its mRNA payload that then tricks cell ribosomes into making viral proteins. I find it hard to believe that these viruses could somehow evolve by themselves as nonautonomous/parasitic biological entities (and they’re supposedly the most abundant type of biological entity) as they could never have become pathogenic without “help” from the host (or a 3rd party tinkerer). But they seem to have been around since way before modern lab gene editing tech, so if they originate as EVs produced by animal cells, they must’ve been modified throughout centuries/millennia by external forces that want to manipulate/control us.
So I agree that “SARS-CoV-2 has not been isolated”, according to the real meaning of the term and previous standard protocol. But that doesn’t prove it doesn’t exist. What proponents of the “viruses don’t exist or cannot infect” are lacking IMO is a good explanation of the symptomology (of covid, flu, SARS1, childhood viral infections, etc), of why many (including young) people have “long-covid” symptomology that never quite seems to heal unlike previous diseases even when they take vitamin D etc, of why the censored effective treatments (ivermectin, HCQ+zinc, etc) work (if used early enough), of why monoclonal antibodies targeting the Spike protein also seem to work, of why USG funded GOF research, of why the CCP and others have spent so much effort researching bat coronaviruses if they aren’t effective bioweapons…
The pumping up of COVID “cases” and death numbers is necessary because even a GOF lab chimera isn’t enough to affect people with a strong immune system. Many of the people involved are old folks who could possibly succumb to a more pathogenic one, and with the PCR cycles tool you don’t need it to be highly pathogenic, just highly infective/transmissible (plus perhaps even use unspecific primers that match other hCoV sequences), in order to create “casedemic” panics.
I do agree with you on HIV.
It’s possible the “Wuhan lab leak theory” is a cover story for deliberate release of the virus as suggested by Event 201 (and previous simulations that became real) and that they’re throwing Fraudci under the bus. It’s even possible it’s a cover story for the idea that there really is no virus, however, I’m not sure you have as good a case as you think here.
There exists a two fold mystery that is very difficult to crack:
1. What is the cause of deaths from the Wuhan pneumonia
2. Are there any “new” Wuhan pneumonia deaths or is it just uncovered by looking at it through the PCR but was there for ages ?
We can not really say that there were excess deaths but we can say that something with prions/Exosomes/particles/proteins/virusses is gooing on here that seems to be a “marker”
What could be that marker?
If you step back for a second and try to imagine that “contagion” could mean 2 things:
a good thing or a bad thing.
I leave the bad thing out here but like to concentrate on the good thing.
There is a reasoning going that measles is a change in the metabolism of a growing child. The child forms some pigments on the skin during that period.
Other children see it and their subconcious body starts that same metabolism change. Also develops pigments on the skin. Contagion ? Good ? Bad ?
Well. Let us assume after a liong winter, sitting in bad ventilated rooms, the body when sensing the longer solar radiation starts some sort of a process of cleaning itself, menaing: dissolving old worn out tissue and coughing and swaeting it out, called flu.
Your room mate “feels” you have the flu and also starts this cleaning process. Contagion. Good ? Bad ?
I do not rule out that these processes involves some sort of a “protein message” in the form of an email “hey update your body!” …
Now let us go to C19.
In the comments on OFW
War says:
June 25, 2020 at 10:48 pm
… (The best comment in this direction by far! @War: come back 😉
well.
We know that the fracking process involves some usage of strange chemicals that are not diclosed. At least some explosives are involved that is possibly a nitro-compund. The amout of that is huge. These chemicals go into the refinery and are
1. exhausted by the refinery
2. exhausted by cars and trucks
We know that 90% of all respiratory illnesses are caused by bad air quality and Wuhan is (was ?!) the place on earth with the worst air quality.
(I think it is googelable that Wuhan saw environmental protests in late 2019)
tip: check out air quality from the area of the latest outbreak in china (“Guangzen” or ?)
Some commenter here a while ago posted some links to the allowance of additional Cyanide exhausts from US refineries approved by the EPA. I have lonng searched the comments but I do not find it again. Please, if you remember what that was, please post them again here for me. Thank you!
So let us asume this:
Every human on this planet struggles with coping with the intoxication with Cyanide.
The problems from Cyanide are mostly “blood vessel problems”…
Let us assume, all humans try to “alter and improve” their body/metabolism permanently to cope with any new environment. Let us assume some humans developed some sort of an upgrade programme and changed their metabolism successfully.
This “upgrade” somehow “transfers” itself to other humas so that they can better cope with the “bad” environment. Good or Bad?
Unfortunately “upgrading” your body metabolism is not an easy task for your body.
Some people might die from it (from or with it, cough)
Where are we now:
At the beginning in 2020 it was very easy to be seen that the worst “outbrakes” came in areas with the worst air pollution.
What data have we collected for “spacial temporal analysis”? NONE!
In most cases prior to 2019 an increase in “sickness” immediately brought up toxicologists to check “environmental factors”.
Not so with C19.
The EU sponsors a satellite (operated from the canadian space agency) that measures atmospheric HCN concentration globally and I kindly asked them to send me a dataset but the did not reply. Well that is their good right because I am the stupid guy to pay for their salary with my taxes.
No one denies people got sick or there are not unique illnesses. What we are denying is the faulty evidence presented to us as the cause. There may be bioweapons but the genetic sequence we are shown sure as hell are not it.
Well, she was a bit chubby.
From the Daily Mail (June 3):
A mother of three suffered multiple blood clots and died in hospital just days after receiving the AstraZeneca Covid vaccine.
Childminder Tanya Smith, 43, had her first jab in March and died just over a week later after being rushed to hospital with severe stomach cramps.
An inquest is set to take place to determine the circumstances surrounding her death.
The Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency has also confirmed it will review Ms Smith’s case as part of an ongoing review into the occurrence of blood clots and any potential links to the vaccine.
Ms Smith’s partner Kenneth Edwards decided to speak out after hearing about the death of BBC journalist Lisa Shaw who died in Newcastle, having been treated in intensive care for blood clots and bleeding after receiving the vaccine.
Mr Edwards said Tanya had felt ‘pretty rough’ for a couple of days after the jab and then woke one morning in pain and called 111 for help.
He said her suffering did not ease even after a paramedic attended and gave her painkillers and she was taken to Derriford Hospital where it was later found she had suffered multiple blood clots.Sadly, Ms Smith soon suffered a heart attack and a cardiac arrest and after a short period of stability, her condition got ‘progressively worse’ before she tragically died in hospital on April 3.
Mr Edwards believes she would not have passed away if she hadn’t had the Covid-19 AstraZeneca vaccine, but this can not be confirmed until a full investigation and inquest into her death has taken place.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9647577/Healthy-mother-43-suffers-blood-clots-dies-days-having-AstraZeneca-Covid-jab.html
Horrible.
As Dolores Cahill so rightly says, those politicians and health bureaucrats who sanction and actively push these injections, are guilty of contributary manslaughter.
But we know that is being too polite: they are now, acting as they do in full awareness of the mounting deaths, morally, murderers.
What would be an appropriate punishment? Strap them down, inject them and let them writhe in agony like their poor, trusting, victims? Suggestions welcome…..
No suggestions for punishments right now.The officially promoted carnage has become systematic and everyone involved will be trotting out the Eichmann defense. But I think I understand better these days how the French Revolution with all those guillotines and audiences of women doing their knitting could have come about.
And we have a WINNER! Bingo!!!!
Step right up … and how old are you – 12 — ah perfect you qualify for the Injection Lottery. Let’s see what happens when I stick this into your arm!!!
The propaganda is simply amazing.
Just read an article about a ‘Covid victim’ in my family’s home town of Pamplona, only……. 13 yrs old!
Now she apparently has ‘ severe brain-fog’.
Oh, horror, better get your kids jabbed asap! You don’t want them to have Covid brain-fog! Don’t think they are safe just because Covid hasn’t been killing them!
Total population of the province is only 650k or so – unlucky kid, must have take some searching to find so ideal a match with child vaccinations looming. I wonder whether all the provinces are similar running stories on local child victims? Bet we see it in the UK, too.
The campaign to sell the “virus” narrative and grip the World with fear and economic destruction has been wildly successful beyond all measure. It could not have been rolled out and exploited any better than what has already happened. In some very dark quarters, the smiles and high-fives are happening on a daily basis. Careers have been established. Reputations have been made. Incredible fortunes have been accumulated and with much more on the way with the ‘Vax-Of-The-Month’ Club members now giddily lining up to have their monthly arm punctures until they begin to look like a piece of bloodied and bruised Swiss Cheese and their bodies contort into something seen in 1950s horror movies.
For all those behind the scenes who are gaming and grading this thing out… this has been the most successful campaign against humanity in all of human history.
And it’s the gift that keeps on giving. Even though the bloom has fallen off the rose a bit lately and Doctor Weasel has lost a bit of the angelic glow radiating around his Medical-Industrial-Complex-Poster-Boy-Minotaur head… entire populations of True Believers around the World now eagerly worship The Cult of the Wholly Un-Holy Priesthood of Medical Malpractice Black Magicians. And beg for more.
“…Bitchute is routinely targeted by governments because it provides a platform for controversial content that isn’t permitted on YouTube.
Some ISPs in Australia previously tried to block the site, while Twitter blocked people from posting Bitchute links on its platform last year.
Authorities in the UK and the EU are also trying to get the site shut down, claiming it engages in “incitement to hatred.”
Advocates of social media censorship routinely claim that free speech isn’t under assault because people can simply ‘build their own platforms’.
Yet when an entity like Bitchute does just that, they are targeted for elimination by the state.
This is straight up Communist Chinese-style totalitarianism, but what makes it worse is its timing.
As we’ve learned in recent weeks, by censoring “misinformation” about the Wuhan lab leak theory which could turn out to have been true all along, social media networks may have been complicit in facilitating one of the biggest cover-ups in modern history…”
https://summit.news/2021/06/02/danish-authorities-shut-down-access-to-bitchute-over-dangerous-covid-19-information/
Speaking of Bitchute, how else would we get to listen to DR. BYRAM BRIDLE talking about THE SPIKE PROTEIN from the VACCINES and how it can cause clotting, bleeding and thromboses in the spleen, the bone marrow, the liver, the ovaries, the adenal glands, the brain ….. and it can be transferred to suckling infants via breast milk.
(ten minutes)
https://www.bitchute.com/video/0cAV4Xvdx4Jm/
Actually Denmark dunnit.
https://reclaimthenet.org/bitchute-blocked-denmark/
Website providers and visitors can evade that problem using IP Adresses besides domain names.
I have recently tried it on several “of my” interest and found out ALL of them including OFW are not responsive producing errors because the Domain name is required for their internal logic to work.
So if you read this and think you are affected: there is some need for preparedness..
There is no single “cause” of “COVID-19 deaths”- rather numerous other causes are being “reclassified” as COVID-19 deaths, which is why FLU deaths disappeared this Winter.
We know that COVID-19 is a hoax but we don’t know the motive. Here are some theories from various sites. The first thing to understand is the medical industry is incredibly corrupt and eagerly awaits a pandemic so they can create a new vaccine and cash in. Public Health officials are VIRUS FANATICS as explained in books like “Virus Mania” and “Inventing the AIDS Virus”. So what triggered the fanatics this time?
1) There really was a spike in deaths in 2019/2020 (perhaps due to manmade or even natural EMF?) and the virus industry simply kicked in and did their usual scam-demic (e.g. like AIDS, which had nothing to do with the fake HIV virus).
2) China faked the COVID-19 virus (by posting fake videos of people dying on the streets) and hailing the success of lockdowns in order to get rid of Trump and wage “economic warfare” on the West.
https://www.aier.org/article/fauci-and-the-communists/
3) Elites used the WHO to fake COVID-19 in order to get rid of Trump. This is why the WHO initially used a PCR cycle count of 45 and then lowered it on the day of the Biden inauguration.
4) Elites decided to implement the “Great Reset” in order to save the world from Global Warming. Vaccines are being used to depopulate and sterilize for the “greater good”. Another variant of this idea is that elites are doing this due to Peak Oil concerns, i.e. affordable oil is running out quickly and the world economy will collapse, killing billions. I only heard of this recently but it has some credibility because fracking/shale oil are apparently not the panacea they were made out to be.
https://www.chemistryworld.com/opinion/why-fracking-isnt-the-answer-to-the-peak-oil-crisis/3009956.article
5) Elites are doing this simply to assert control over the rest of us because they now have the technology to do so.
6) Here’s a wacko idea. What if David Icke is correct and aliens really do control our world? What if our alien overloads gave the vaccines to our world “leaders” in order to get rid of us? There’s ZERO proof of this except that it’s now become acceptable to talk about UFOs in the mainstream media. I only added this to the list for completeness.
Anything else?
I am sure that there really have been a lot of COVID-19 deaths. A lot of them could have been prevented by more vitamin D beforehand, ivermectin, and better general levels of health. I don’t think that advancing other ideas really helps, however.
“I am sure that there really have been a lot of COVID-19 deaths.”
How are you so sure? I know there was a spike in deaths last spring but that could be a bad flu season.
Since then most countries did NOT have excess deaths and for those that did it’s hard to separate what are deaths caused by lockdowns and maltreatment from a real external cause.
The fact that covid chance of death is inversely proportional with life expectancy suggest this is not a regular disease (even flu kills some kids).
If you have any data, please I would like to see it.
Excess mortality is a crude measure that is made less useful during lockdowns which severely restrict human activity.
However, the WHO issued this report:
https://www.who.int/data/stories/the-true-death-toll-of-covid-19-estimating-global-excess-mortality
Let’s have a look at mortality
https://off-guardian.org/2021/06/02/counting-covids-deceptive-deaths/
I am sure the deaths are massively overcounted:
https://off-guardian.org/2021/06/02/counting-covids-deceptive-deaths/
I’ll go with 2 and 3 and 4 and 5. It can be multiple reasons.
Would the head lizard on Earth, the Queen, have killed her own husband, no, so it is not #6.
Good point. Livia killed her husband Augustus.
And you think Lizzy the head lizard is less devoted to the Empire than Livia was?
My opinion is quite different.
They engineered a protein binding to the ACE2 receptors on human cells present in the lungs and other organs. They put this protein on a benign bat virus (RaTg13).
Since an epidemic couldn’t reach a majority of people, they designed at the same time the vaccines producing the spike protein which is the real toxin and causes damages by itself, whether it is brought by the virus or the vaccines.
Their obsession with vaccines cannot be explained otherwise.
I would say this plan is brilliant.
But something is missing: when people realize how bad the vaccines are, they will start turning against their governments. This is when we will see what the real plan is, and which regime will replace our pseudo-democracies. At this point many will be dead or injured already.
Americans are passive cowards they will never turn against their dictator.
I agree the vaccine is the thing they want into everyone. What it will do remains to be seen. The current 1% dead or maimed is small potatoes.
Time will tell, but I am inclined to believe that the masses will believe whatever the MSM tells them. Thousands have died from the vaxxes so far, that is what the Vaers system in the USA and yellow card system in the UK, and the one in Europe as well, tells us. And at least here in the UK, the large majority of folks do not know about these deaths, and seem to be not interested.
Should deaths start occurring in much larger numbers at the start of the next flu season, Sept/Oct, because people fully vaxxed react badly to the the new wave of ‘wild viruses’, you can be sure that the viruses and unvaxxed will be blamed, and lockdowns etc. will re-occur. The masses will continue to believe whatever the BBC (in the UK) tells them.
Too late.. the trap is sprung… Devil Covid is imminent now
This is a beautiful trap — the CovIDIOTS will not know that it was they … who accepted the Injections – who are the cause of the mass dying.
I have even mentioned this to be the purpose of the Injections to a couple of CI’s… and said — when the dying starts… remember this ….
Of course they won’t. But I’ll be sure to bombard them with I Told You So (with links to Bossche videos to entertain them while they drown in snot)
“with links to Bossche videos to entertain them while they drown in snot”
I am not entirely certain those videos will be available next winter. Imagine a cyber attack that takes out half of the internet – conveniently leaving FB, Twitter, Google and Amazon standing.
But I share your desire for schadenfreude mixed with sorrow for my fellow human beings – we could have been duped too, who knows?
Well actually yes there is something else. Although it takes years of study and research to fully understand, and there is plenty of criminal liability attached to it for those who are at the top of the pyramid. Speaking of which, it is kind of a pyramid scheme too, there is an air of mystery surrounding it already. Devout Catholics are not going to like the sound of this, and for everyone else it’s time you learn what Mystery Babylon was.
Everyone needs to get red-pilled on this so I will start with Unum Sanctum which is a papal bull decreed by Pope Boniface III in 1302AD in response to a little dustup with King Phillip of France. It escalated and ultimately resulted in Unum Sanctum, but that alone is not enough. Do some research on Cesti Que Vie, an act from 1666 that is a good start.
I am not trying to obfuscate purposely here, the problem took centuries to manifest and I would dare say millennia so a one paragraph summary is too difficult. Again you need to do your own research the way I and many others have done over the years.
Hint: We have been the victims of identity theft in a big and very organized way by a criminal gang that we call the government. So the hint is this, look at all the documents you receive from the government, banks, utilities, DMV, and they all have one thing in common. Your name is in all capital letters, like JOHN P. DOE but that’s not how YOU think of your name and sign your name. Try to tell any of those orgs that your name is John P. Doe, and they will tell you their computer won’t let them enter it that way. There are only a handful of reasons for an all caps name:
1) You are dead. Go to the cemetery and all the inhabitants will have their names in all caps.
2) You are an ocean vessel if your name is call caps.
3) You are a corporation, whose names are officially in all caps. A corporation is the same thing as a corpse, a dead legal fiction. So if a corporation name is in all caps, and everybody insists in sending you mail with your name in all caps, then by the process of elimination, you my friend, are also a corporation…
But you didn’t ask for that, you didn’t incorporate yourself, so who did? That same criminal gang that pretends to be the government incorporated that name from your birth name, but they didn’t tell you that, and guess what? You don’t own the name, they do.
Since they all insist that the all caps name is YOU, then you create joinder with that name by agreeing that the all caps name IS you. And you would be what I like to call wrong.
That’s the identity theft thing I mentioned. And what they did was impersonate you and steal your identity to rack up debts in the all caps corporate name, but that is not YOU. Just like when someone steals your credit card number and goes on a buying spree that is not you it is the criminal impersonating you.
So finally then, why would they want us dead? Because too many people discovered what is and has been going on and it puts the criminals in a bad spot because they can’t admit to the crime without consequences to them. That would be called restitution to you, and they aren’t having any of it. They would much prefer to kill you via a poison vaccine than face the music for what they have done. Oops…too many people found out, better kill the evidence.
Now I am not saying that this is ALL that is motivating them, there are factions who just plain hate mankind and think that the less of us the better. However the way covid is playing out via the World Economic Forum, i.e., Klaus Schwab, Bill Gates, Henry Kissinger and the Davos crowd, part of it is related to this Great Reset they have in mind which is more about resource depletion and “building back better” than it is making sure all the little boys and girls in the world start getting a fair shot at a better world.
Long post, do your work it is due diligence time for all.
I intuitively foresaw this whole scenario, since I’ve seen it play out before, in physics. There are major paradigms in physics, such as the existence of quarks and the Higgs boson that are total nonsense yet two generation of particle physicists built their careers on them. Major blindspots and delusions. No such thing as atom bombs. Nobody landed on the moon.
So if I look at biology, everything they do comes down to a ‘soup’. If no one has or can separate the components of the mixture, there’s no way to prove or conclude anything about its separate ingredients. That’s basic logic, but scientists are no longer trained as philosophers who are self-aware and have insight into assumptions, axioms and principles. There’s no logos in science unless you know what logos is.
‘No such thing as atom bombs.’
So what caused the mushroom clouds?
I disagree with StarvingLion – nuclear fission and radiation is something that anybody can measure at home. Let’s not ignore reality just because most of what we have been thought are lies.
That being said I know there are some bombs (like explosive-air bombs) that do create a lot of heat and a miniature mushroom cloud. Nothing as big as the nuclear ones though.
Starving, I disagree with you on all points except the Higgs.
Why not just state the obvious: NIRP will happen by late 2021.
Its a xxxxing banana republic.
Many biolgical scientists and various researchers are level headedly surmising that the “virus” fraud was always about the “vaccine”. The “germ theory” is obviously flawed for many reasons. But it has served the controllers well in getting many to fall for the real dis-ease maker: a “therapy” that gets the body to attack itself… what’s the remedy for that ? Why more therapies of course, creating and capturing more “patients”, thus generating more cascading profit, societal engineering & control and ultimately population reduction & control. The virus numbers were obvious fraud but as long as the mass mind control works it provides perfect cover for the real bioweapon(s)… those actually created in a lab ! , i.e. vaccines, aka poisons that create autoimmune dis-ease. It is a business plan diabolically inhuman beyond all calculation.
Starving, I have been calling for years for the PTB to step up and do the needed thing. FE, has it right it is compassionate.
This article simply yet cleverly sums up the basics of this gigantic hoax we’re forced upon. Well done I hope people will try to prove you wrong and do some research for themselves so they can find out and know for a fact that there are no authentic scientific studies that prove the existence of SARS-CoV-2. They can’t prove you wrong because it’s only a computer-generated picture of what that virus could look like if it was real, and just because a patent of “covid-19” DATA was created and financed by someone, it doesn’t mean that there’s an actual virus out here in the real world… It’s still only a theory.
But nobody cares about the proof of existence of a new virus as long as they’re told by the script writers of the hoax that it is something that they need to FEAR. And to keep the fear alive, the hoaxsters can just:
Change up the PCR cycle threshold to create “covid cases” at will…
Announce a “new strain” on the “news” to cause public panic by telling people there’s a new deadly variant of “covid-19″…
Relabel almost all causes of deaths to “covid-19 deaths” to make the “pandemic” look real…
Create movie-style drama for people who might question the existence of SARS-CoV-2 by fooling them into believing it’s a man-made bioweapon, created in a lab, and letting them hear it on controlled opposition sites they trust, to make “SARS-CoV-2” and the “pandemic” more believable for them. (So many of the “alternative media” have now become dramatic-sounding disinformation platforms.)
Release and promote “experimental” mRNA technologies with different brand names and confuse people to make them think only some of the “vaccines” are dangerous to avoid people to reject to get injected with these toxic substances.
Censor, shadow ban, ridicule or vilify anything or anyone that questions the “official” narrative about covid-19, “vaccines”, policies or plans regarding the “pandemic” in order to successfully apply the pre-planned agenda to monopolize and centralize of every aspect of businesses and private lives of people to implement One World Government fully controlled by the “globalists” after the Great Reset.
…And it’s EASY for them to do this because they control most of the information about the event that most people will get to hear…
It would have been very easy to use this situation to do exactly what we are doing now….
https://time.com/5107984/hospitals-handling-burden-flu-patients/
The virus that causes COVID-19 exists and was identified and isolated multiple times by independent research groups
https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-yeadon-3818613
Stocks now come with cigarette pack warnings. Nobody cares.
Stock Market Officially a Bad Joke: AMC Warns Buyers of its New Shares: Don’t Buy “Unless You Are Prepared” to Lose “All or Substantial Portion of Your Investment”
“Under the circumstances, we caution you against investing in our Class A common stock, unless you are prepared to incur the risk of losing all or a substantial portion of your investment.”
https://wolfstreet.com/2021/06/03/stock-market-officially-a-bad-joke-amc-warns-buyers-of-its-new-shares-dont-buy-unless-you-are-prepared-to-incur-the-risk-of-losing-all-or-substantial-portion-of-your-investment/
Sounds like a worthwhile warning!
1. Why doesn’t Gail Tverberg entertain the notion that the people controlling oil exploration have increasingly become incompetent in the actual business of discovering oil?
2. Similarly, why does Gail Tverberg assume ‘the laws of physics’ deserve so much respect? As an example, isn’t it rather obvious that the kinetic energy formula (1/2vmv) is extremely suspect amongst countless other dubious interpretations such as the phenomenon called ‘gravity’.
3. Instead of expending so much investigation around hopeless “energy transitions” such as nuke reactors, “renewables”, hydrogen, etc and alternative electronic currency schemes…what is so obviously wrong about Petro Dollar 2 with a reexamination of oil exploration methodology?
There is this huge gulf between the over-educated and the mongrelisation put forth by banksters as a result of their degenerate behaviour of rubber-stamping bad debt Fill the knowledge gap and kick the banksters out of their perches.
“isn’t it rather obvious that the kinetic energy formula (1/2vmv) is extremely suspect amongst countless other dubious interpretations such as the phenomenon called ‘gravity’”
Most of us aren’t physics majors and so, no, it isn’t obvious at all.
In classical mechanics, the kinetic energy of a point object or a non-rotating rigid body depends on the mass of the body as well as its speed. The kinetic energy is equal to 1/2 the product of the mass and the square of the speed.
That’s what most of us learned in high school or junior high school, although we may have been gazing at the clock on the wall or at the landscape beyond the window at the time.
It you think that is wrong, as it may well be, although not obviously to most of us, perhaps you could give us a short and simple explanation of why it’s wrong?
I for one, would really like to know.
Tim, as a physics amateur, I think StarvingLion is falling into the trap of confusing models with reality.
Kinetic energy formula is wrong (see theory of relativity), but it works well enough up to rocket speeds.
Physics is not math – there are no truths, just models and predictions. As long as the predictions match reality, nobody complains. See the quantum mechanical interpretations that invoke ridiculous voodoo about “conscious observers”. Who cares if they make any sense as long as the math works?
There are a lot of models for gravity and if StarvingLion has one, I would like to hear it. The question is – can it predict something different than the current models? And can it be tested? Then his Nobel is waiting (actually probably not, since the Nobel committee has become woke, but you get the idea).
Popular anecdote from Zero Hedge and why I haven’t been to a doctor in years:
I went and got a COVID antibody test today (no longer covered by insurance, strangely).
Anyway, I ask the practitioner, if I blow a negative does that mean I never had COVID? Yes she says.
Then proceeds to tell me even if I have antibodies I still need the vaccine because the antibodies only last a few months.
wait, I said, if the antibodies only last a few months, then how could a negative antibody test prove that I never had COVID?
then, crickets,
or do the antibodies last much longer? is the science really conclusive?
Yes, it is very strange how they won’t study antibodies! I had covid for 2 weeks and I last april still had antibodies…but now it is hard to get a test and they keep telling me “well you just need to get the vaccine” I don’t need the vaccine if I have natural antibodies! They are now making it difficult to get the antibody test…price wise! So I thought I would give blood to find out but they won’t let me give blood because I lived in Germany the 80’s and there were a few cases of mad cow in Europe!
Sometimes I wonder if we give the ptb too much credit…maybe they are just bumbling idiots–that might be an even scarier thought.
Interesting point.
The PTB who are staging this coup are certainly not as all wise, nor are they as all powerful as they would wish to be.
Just ‘apex manipulators’, which they mistake for being superior people.
Totalitarian regimes, like the one being impose on us now, are often a frightening combination of malicious efficiency, and dreadful incompetence and delusion.
They are also inherently permeated with corruption, as devoid of ethical restraint they all strive to push the boundaries of power.
Ironically, attainment of supreme power often leads to the degeneration of the original capacities of the tyrannical elite: but that is a lesson they will never learn from history.
I take consolation from the fact that an abused Mother Nature – insuperable physical limits – is going to wipe these scum from the face of the Earth. They will not triumph for long.
“The researchers found antibody-producing cells in people 11 months after first symptoms.”
https://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/health/mild-covid-19-induces-lasting-antibody-protection-study-finds/article34648040.ece
Good one.
You should have asked her how long she expects the vaccine’s protection to last.
That is a perfect question !
Why do you fear human? Just take your daily shot of gene therapy and you will be saved.
https://youtu.be/q7DfQMPmJRI
A medium of exchange
Will suffer from time to time
In an attempt for a range
To rise and shine
Every fool has its table. As long as you pay for it.
every tool has its fable.
Every mule has its stable.
Every Paul has his Mable?
Welcome back CTG and thank you for bringing down the IQ level again. The more the merrier. I will try to bring the IQ level up again by staying away for a month. You don’t believe me?
One week?
One day?
Fifteen minutes?
Yes, I have no character.
Since TPTB are promoting fat acceptance, these propped-up figureheads will do nicely. It’s one way of killing off excess humanity since how often does one observe an obese human living to a ripe old age?
Maggie De Block, a member of the Pan-European Commission on Health and Sustainable Development, is one of the most noticeable, shall we say:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maggie_De_Block
And once again,a misplaced comment . . . I was responding to Cletus about obesity rates.
She’s a big ol HOG that one!
Sooo eeee!!!!
Does the Open VLD have no African-Belgian members?
Let’s mate Maggie de Block with the Fat Controller from the BIS: a eugenics experiment! They should approve of that.
Does this look bullish for stock market? Insider trading one day:
Buys 53 $14,871,655
Sells 181 $773,275,743
Past month:
Total Transactions Amount
Buys 2698 $4,762,608,653
Sells 14028 $42,476,175,918
Should be easy to do a Michael Burry and do the Big Short in the next 12 months.
If the Nasdaq 100 busts through 14000, it does an AMC.and goes to 100000 in less than 2 years.
I think today was the last day of believing that any kind of a normal correction is going to happen. Its not even theoretically possible.
Covid-19 didn’t CRASH the stock market.
Its as if the STock Market is laughing at the so-called Nuclear Arsenals and smirking ‘I dare ya’.
is this skewed insider trading really that ominous? I ask, because it seems apparent that many of these insiders are compensated with large amounts of company stock. So by default, they would be more apt to be sellers who would want to diversify out of their large single stock holdings and into other things. What makes you think this is not the case?
Well I’m saying its significant based on recent history. The last 3 months, insider selling has really ramped up compared to the past.
Vancouver average gasoline price is very near all time highs despite the fact oil producers are just sitting around waiting for 100+ oil.
Offshore drillers like Transocean stock is still near all time lows.
Get off the shit pot and answer the question: WTI at 70 now, needs to stay above 100 permanently. Are these Housing Ponzi Banana Republics going to blow up or not?
could blow up soon, but the duct tape has been holding since 2009, so there’s a good chance it holds a few more years.
70 is kinda of an ominous setting for oil to be at…to low for producers and too high for consumers…..kinda like the are riding the brakes down a steep hill!
Lets hope this holds a little longer although I would feel better if there were not some huge bubbles popping up everywhere….housing prices, commodity prices , energy prices…..what isn’t in a bubble right now? Maybe that is what taper is all about trying to land this huge tanker….
“WTI price volatility has returned its 2020-21 post-collapse minimum.
Price may exceed $70 next week but volatility trends suggest a 10-15% price correction in the very near term”??
https://twitter.com/aeberman12/status/1401215433106247685?s=20
Inside sales vastly exceed those buying. It certainly looks like the current bubble is set to pop in the near future.
I don’t think there can be any further normal corrections in the stock market. It looks like the major indices want to go vertical like AMC.
Dow to 1,000,000 then CRASH.
Then ?
Do stock markets crash sooner or later is the big question.
A related question is, “Can governments keep pumping the world economy up indefinitely, until something else pops the bubble?”
The US seems to be running into liquidity problems leading to a spike in the reverse repo amounts. The steps it takes to counter this (tapering bond buying, selling corporate debt previously purchased) are likely to spike rates for lower rated bonds.
A lot of commodity prices are spiking.
I would agree that this is no longer a normal market.
Why There are Now So Many Shortages (It’s Not COVID)
https://youtu.be/b1JlYZQG3lI
Interesting video, explaining that the economy is not able to handle very big disruptions in volume, because it disrupts supply chains. (Sorry, I didn’t get to the end of the video. It may have other things, too.)
I listened to the end of the video, and it is really very good. It explains why one shortage leads to another shortage, like the shortage of rental vehicles in Alaska. The dealers sold them last fall, to get cash. Now with the semiconductor chip shortage, they weren’t able to purchase the cars they ordered. Visitors can fly to Alaska, but they can’t rent a car to drive, when they get there. So Alaska tourism is way down.
The video explains that Toyota has been a company that has focused on how to do just-in-time manufacturing correctly. It is not a matter of eliminating all inventory; it is a matter of eliminating excess inventory. It gives the example of the lack of need of inventory for plastic parts, because there are lots of suppliers for those parts, versus the need for considerable inventory for computer chips, because if there is a chip shortage, the cars can’t be built. As a result, Toyota is the only car manufacturer that has not been affected by the chip shortage.
I was wondering if it would suit some (more?) stores to close the store, use most of the space for storage while supplies last. Then do online selling of its products, which would be fine-tuned-packaged by workers they allow to work from home. Their smaller trucks (or U-Hauls) would pick up and deliver the packages. There would be a bit less vehicular traffic on the road.
Hi Gail.
I really appreciate your work & insights.
Here is an update on Toyota’s good fortune for you.
While they’re the only major auto manufacturer unaffected by computer chip supply chain disruptions, they’re incredibly unlucky to have lost an entire shipload of vehicle parts & three lives, in a ‘freak’ maritime accident 10 days ago.
Their near new Ro Ro vessel Byakko was making delivery runs to factories in Japan when it collided with an oncoming vessel at night, after apparently turning hard in front of it and being T boned.
Brings to mind the Ever Given container ship Suez apparent accident.
https://www.fleetmon.com/maritime-news/2021/33893/ro-ro-sank-after-collision-tanker-3-crew-including/