To Be Sustainable, Green Energy Must Generate Adequate Taxable Revenue

What allows any type of energy to be sustainable? I would argue that one of the requirements for sustainability is adequate production of taxable revenue. Company managements depend upon taxable revenue for many purposes, including funding new investments and paying dividends to shareholders. Governments depend upon taxable income to collect enough taxes to provide infrastructure and programs for their growing populations.

Taxable income is a major way that “net energy” is transferred to future investment and to the rest of the economy. If this form of net energy is too low, governments will collapse from lack of funding. Energy production will fall from lack of reinvestment. This profitability needs to come from the characteristics of the energy products, allowing more goods and services to be produced efficiently. This profitability cannot be created simply by the creation of more government debt; the rise in the price of energy is tied to the affordability of goods, particularly the goods required by low-income people, such as food. This affordability issue tends to put a cap on prices that can be charged for energy products.

It seems to me that Green Energy sources are held to far too low a standard. Their financial results are published after subsidies are reflected, making them look profitable when, in reality, they are not. This is one of the things that makes many people from the financial community believe that Green Energy is the solution for the future.

In this post, I will discuss these ideas further. A related issue is, “Which type of oil production fell most in the 2018-2021 period?” Many people had expected that perhaps high-cost energy production would fall. Strangely enough, the production that fell most was that of OPEC oil exporters. These oil exporters often have a very low cost of energy production. The production of US oil from shale also fell.

If the ratio of Energy Return on Energy Investment (EROEI) is to be used as a measure of which type of energy best meets our needs, perhaps the list of items to be included in EROEI calculations needs to be broadened. Alternatively, more attention needs to be paid to unsubsidized taxable income as an indicator of net energy production.

[1] According to EIA data, world crude oil production hit a peak of 84.5 million barrels per day (bpd) in the fourth quarter of 2018. Production fell as low as 72.3 million bpd in the third quarter of 2020. Production rebounded to 75.4 million barrels of oil a day, still 9.1 million bpd below peak production in the 4th quarter of 2018.

Figure 1. Quarterly crude and condensate production, based on international data of the US Energy Information Administration.

This drop in oil production was unprecedented. It far exceeded the drop in oil production at the time of the Great Recession of 2008-2009. As of the first quarter of 2021, crude oil production was roughly at its level in 2011. It still has not rebounded very far.

[2] The biggest drop in crude oil production during this period was that of the cartel led by OPEC and Russia. United States’ oil production also fell during this period. Production of the Rest of the World, in total, was fairly flat.

Figure 2. Crude oil production through the first quarter of 2021 based on international data of the US Energy Information Administration.

The big concern of OPEC and Russia was that crude oil prices were too low to provide adequate tax revenue for the governments of these countries. This is especially an issue for countries with few other industries besides oil. These oil exporting countries tend to have large populations, with little employment besides government-sponsored projects. Nearly all food needs to be imported, so subsidies for food need to be provided if the many people earning low wages are to be able to afford this food.

If oil prices are high, say $150 per barrel or higher in today’s dollars, it is generally fairly easy for governments to collect enough oil-related taxes. The actual cost of extraction is often very low for oil exporters, perhaps as little as $20 per barrel. The need for tax revenue greatly exceeds the direct expenses of extracting the oil. Companies can be asked to pay as much as 90% of operating income (in this example, equal to $130 = $150 – $20 per barrel, probably only relating to exported oil) as taxes. The percentage varies greatly by country, with countries that have higher costs of production generally paying less in taxes.

Figure 3. Chart from 2013 showing “government take” as a percentage of operating income by Barry Rodgers Oil and Gas Consulting (website no longer available).

When oil companies are asked about their required price to break even, a wide range of answers is possible. Do they just quote the expense of pulling the oil from the ground? If so, a very low answer is possible. If shareholders are involved in the discussions, this is the answer that they would like to hear. Or do they give realistic estimates, including the taxes that their governments need? Furthermore, if the cost of extraction is rising, there needs to be enough profit that can be set aside to allow for the drilling of new wells in higher-cost areas, if production is to be maintained.

Because of the need for tax revenue, OPEC countries often publish Fiscal Breakeven Oil Prices, indicating how high the prices need to be to obtain adequate tax revenue for the exporting countries. For example, Figure 4 shows a set of Fiscal Breakeven Oil Prices for 2013 – 2014.

Figure 4. Estimate of OPEC breakeven oil prices, including tax requirements by parent countries, by APICORP.

If a country tries to maintain the same standard of living for its population as in the past, I would expect that the fiscal breakeven price would rise year after year. This would occur partly because the population of OPEC countries keeps rising and thus more subsidy is needed. The fiscal breakeven price would also tend to rise because the easiest-to-extract oil tends to be depleted first. As a result, new oil-related investments can be expected to have higher costs than the depleted investments they are replacing.

In fact, if a person looks at more recently published fiscal breakeven prices, they tend to be lower than the 2013-2014 breakevens. I believe that this happens because oil exporters don’t want to look desperate. They know that attaining such high prices is unlikely today. They hope that by using more debt and reducing the standard of living of their citizens, they can somehow get along with a lower fiscal breakeven price. This is not a long term solution, however. Unhappy citizens are likely to overturn their governments. Such a result could completely cut off oil supply from these countries.

[3] A cutback in oil production is not surprising for the OPEC + Russia group, nor for the United States, given the chronically low oil prices. The profitability was too low for all of these producers.

Figure 5. Inflation-adjusted historical average annual Brent oil price for 1965 through 2020 from BP’s Statistical Review of World Energy 2021. 12-Jul-2021 amount is the actual Brent spot oil price for that date.

Oil prices fell in late 2014. Fiscal breakeven prices calculated before that date likely gave a somewhat reasonable estimate of the needed prices for oil exporters to make an adequate profit, at that time. By early 2019, when the first decreases in oil production began, these countries were beginning to become fed up with chronically low oil prices.

It is interesting to note that Qatar, the country with the lowest breakeven price on Figure 4, decided to withdraw from OPEC effective January 1, 2019, rather than reduce its oil production. For Qatar, oil prices in late 2018 and early 2019 were close to adequate. Qatar mostly produces natural gas, rather than oil.

The decrease in US shale oil production reflects somewhat the same low profitability issue as OPEC + Russia exports, with an additional factor added. Besides low prices, there seems to be a well-spacing issue. There are reports that the spacing of shale wells gradually got closer and closer, until the closer spacing became counter-productive. The more closely spaced wells “cannibalized” the output from nearby wells. The extra drilling may also have released needed pressurization, reducing oil availability.

Such a problem would have been a difficult issue to pick up from EROEI analyses because there are not enough of these EROEI studies to see sudden changes. Figure 6 shows the timing of the drop in US oil production, relative to the drop in oil prices:

Figure 6. Monthly average crude oil and condensate production and prices for the United States excluding the Gulf of Mexico, based on US Energy Information Administration data. Oil prices are West Texas Intermediate spot prices, not adjusted for inflation. Amounts shown are through April 2021.

Figure 6 omits oil from the Gulf of Mexico, because its quantity tends to bounce around, especially when a hurricane hits. Because of this exclusion, the oil shown in Figure 6 reflects a combination of declining oil production from conventional oil wells plus (after about 2011) rising production from shale wells.

Figure 6 shows that production of oil from shale was developed during the 2011 to 2013 period, when oil prices were high. When oil prices suddenly fell in late 2014, shale producers suddenly found production very unprofitable. They cut back on production starting in April 2015. Shale production started rising again in 2017 after prices moved away from their extreme lows. Growth in oil production began to slow in late 2018, when oil prices again began to fall.

The big shutdown in world oil demand associated with the COVID-19 epidemic began in the second quarter of 2020. Shale production fell in response to low oil prices in March through November of 2020. As of April 2021, production does not seem to have rebounded significantly. We have seen reports that workers were laid off, making it difficult to add new production. If, indeed, well-spacing had become too close, this may have played a role in the decision not to ramp up production again. It is quite possible that many drilled but uncompleted wells will permanently remain uncompleted because they are too close to other wells to be useful.

Based on this analysis, it seems likely that US oil production for 2021 will be lower than that for 202o. Ultimately, the lack of adequate profitability can be expected to bring US oil production down.

[4] There are some high-cost oil producers who continue to produce increasing amounts of oil.

Figure 7. Crude oil and condensate production for Canada and Brazil, based on international data of the US Energy Information Administration.

The keys to maintaining high-cost oil production seem to be

  • Large up front investments to make this production possible with little new investment
  • Governments that are not very “needy” in terms of revenue from oil taxes

Even with these considerations, having an unprofitable or barely profitable oil industry weakens a country. Neither Brazil nor Canada is doing very well economically in 2021. These countries will likely reduce new oil investment in the next year or two, if inflation-adjusted oil prices do not rise significantly.

[5] Somehow, “Green Energy” has been allowed to compete in the energy field with huge subsidies. If Green Energy is actually to be successful long-term, it needs to be profitable in the same way that fossil fuel energy needs to be profitable. If wind and solar are truly useful, they need to be very profitable, even without subsidies, so that they can support their governments with taxes.

There tends to be little recognition of the extent of subsidies for renewable energy. For example, allowing the electricity from wind turbines and solar panels to be put on the grid whenever it is generated is a huge subsidy. Such generation mostly substitutes for the coal or natural gas used by electricity-producing plants, rather than the electricity generated by these plants. The many reports we see that compare the cost of intermittent electricity generated by wind turbines and solar panels with the cost of dispatchable electricity generated by fossil fuels are simply misleading.

Furthermore, electricity generated by wind turbines and solar panels doesn’t need to be sufficiently profitable to pay for the much larger grid they require. The larger grid requirement occurs partly because the devices tend to be more distant from users, and partly because the transmission lines need to be sized for the maximum transmission required, which tends to be high for the variable production of renewables.

The lack of adequate profitability of wind and solar on an unsubsidized basis strongly suggests that they are not really producing net energy, regardless of what EROEI calculations seem to indicate.

It might be noted that in past years, oil exporters have been accused of giving large energy subsidies to their oil producing companies. What these oil exporters have been doing is charging their own citizens lower prices for oil products than the high (international) price charged to foreign buyers. Thus, high taxes were collected only on oil exports, not from local citizens. With the fall in oil prices in late 2014 (shown in Figures 5 and 6 below), this practice of differential pricing has largely disappeared.

“Oil subsidies” in the US consist of financial assistance to low income people in the US Northeast who continue to heat their homes with oil. These subsidies, too, have mostly disappeared, with lower oil prices and the availability of less expensive forms of home heating.

[6] It seems to me that an economy really has three different requirements:

  1. The total quantity of energy must be rising, at least as rapidly as population.
  2. The types of energy available must match the needs of current energy-consuming devices, or there needs to be some type of transition plan to facilitate this transition.
  3. There must be enough “net energy” left over, both (a) to fund governments with taxes and (b) to fund any transition to different energy-consuming devices, if such a transition is required.

Thus, in order for a transition to Green Energy to really work, it must be extremely profitable on a pretax, unsubsidized basis, so that it can pay high taxes. The greater the need for a transition to different energy consuming devices, such as heat pumps for buildings and electric vehicles of many types, the greater the need for more net energy generated by Green Energy sources to help facilitate this transition.

High profitability for energy products is normally associated with a very low cost of energy production. Furthermore, the type of Green Energy available needs to be in a very useful form. In a sense, there are really two different energy transitions required:

  • The output of intermittent electricity devices must be brought up to grid standards, using a combination such as many long distance transmission, very substantial battery backup, and the use of many devices to provide the electricity with the precise characteristics it needs.
  • As mentioned above, if greater use of electricity is to be made, a transition to electric devices is required.

Both of these transitions will require a significant quantity of energy (really net energy not used elsewhere in the system) to accomplish. If fossil fuel energy is being phased out, an increasing share of this net energy will need to come from the Green Energy sector by way of the tax system. Such a system will only work if the Green Energy sector is very profitable on a pre-tax basis.

[7] Figure 8 suggests that the world has a problem with low energy consumption per capita right now.

Figure 8. Energy consumption per capita for all energy sources combined based on data from BP’s Statistical Review of Energy 2021.

There is a strong correlation between growth in total energy consumption per capita and how well the economy is doing. The slight downward slide in energy consumption per capita in 2019 indicates that the economy was already doing poorly in 2019. The huge downward shift in 2020 dwarfs the downward slide in 2009, when the world was in the midst of the Great Recession. My earlier research, looking back 200 years, indicates that low growth in energy consumption per capita is likely to lead to conflict among nations and collapses of governments. Epidemics are also more likely to spread in such periods, because greater wage and wealth disparity tends to occur when energy supplies are constrained.

Any shift away from fossil fuel energy to Green Energy will almost certainly mean a huge drop in world energy consumption per capita because the world doesn’t produce very much Green Energy. Such a drop in energy consumption per capita will be a huge problem, in itself. If the Green Energy sector doesn’t generate much taxable income without subsidies, this adds an additional difficulty.

[8] Conclusion: Examination of the EROEIs for various fuels, using calculations the way that they are performed today, gives inadequate information regarding whether a transition to another set of fuels is feasible.

Researchers need to be looking more at (a) the total quantity of energy produced and (b) the profitability of producing this energy. An economy is only possible because of profitable businesses, including energy businesses. A person cannot assume that energy prices will rise from today’s level because of scarcity. Today’s huge debt bubble is producing very high copper and steel prices, but it is not producing correspondingly high oil prices.

Heavily subsidized energy products look like they might be helpful, but there is little reason to believe this to be the case. If Green Energy products are truly producing net energy, we should expect this fact to be reflected in the unsubsidized profits that these products generate. In fact, if Green Energy products are truly producing large amounts of net energy, they should be so profitable that businesses will be rapidly ramping up their production, even without subsidies or mandates.

About Gail Tverberg

My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
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3,605 Responses to To Be Sustainable, Green Energy Must Generate Adequate Taxable Revenue

  1. Fast Eddy says:

    CovIDIOT UPDATE!

    So … Fast Eddy walks into a bar… runs into a CovIDIOT … Fast says … did you hear about Scotland … no says the CovIDIOT…. Injected people are being hospitalized with covid … check it out https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/19458569.covid-hospital-admissions-triple-over-60s—-nearly-half-patients-fully-vaccinated/

    Oh says the CovIDIOT… ‘[1:56 pm, 25/07/2021] doubt they were vaxed with Pfizer/BioNTech…
    [1:56 pm, 25/07/2021] …or Moderna

    The CovIDIOT revealed he had the BionNtech Injection earlier this month…..

    Actually Fast says: Moderna… https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-56661560

    CovIDIOT… ‘Desperate times calls for desperate measures…..’ (whatever that means…)

    As the CovIDIOT pulls the blanket of cognitive dissonance over his head….

    • one correction if I may?

      start of joke:

      Eddy is already in the bar, waiting for a passing stranger to come in. (the locals all drink somewhere else)

  2. Fast Eddy says:

    https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/wild-scenes-as-sydney-antilockdown-protesters-clash-with-police/news-story/e5b47e5103e55a7c6ebd1eb6d0094a78

    And the government response is….

    Australians may face longer lockdown after “reckless” mass protests

    https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/australians-may-face-longer-lockdown-after-mass-protests-2021-07-24/

    Seems marching around shouting is not having the desired effect.

    And I do not recommend ‘adding oil’ (that’s the phrase they used at the HK protests … where hundreds of thousands and sometimes nearly 2M took to the streets)….. all that will do is invite a brutal police response…

    I was speaking to a black shirted protestor in HK in 2019… asking him why they don’t adopt more extreme violence … he had balloons filled with paint to throw at the cops… I asked him why he didn’t use petrol.. he said ‘if we do something like that they will shoot us… they have guns… we don’t’…. I then suggested he fill them with liquified faeces and urine … he thought that was very amusing!

    The best thing to do is… sit back and watch… there is no sense spending the final months in a prison cell.

    The Elders are not messing around — the orders will be to smash these protesters in the mouth if they get violent.

    America is a different animal … 700k assault weppons + over 1M hand weppons. Could get dicey… particularly if they try to force the Injection on the kids (the kids will probably report their parents though hahahahaha)

    • Xabier says:

      There is an intensive brainwashing programme for children here in the UK: vaccines are totally safe and it’s great to get them if you are a good child citizen…..

      Quite disgusting and shameless!

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Imagine trying to explain to an 8 year old that blue boxing is mostly pointless… it would be almost as frustrating as trying to explain to norm that we’ve never been to the moon

    • Fillmore East says:

      “The best thing to do is… sit back and watch… there is no sense spending the final months in a prison cell.”

      Good suggestion.

      Are you aware of the reddit poster “i_reddit_for_lulz” who predicted a manmade crisis for the year 2020, 3 years and 3 months from the timeframe of his Oct 2, 2016 post where he/she described city-size, deep underground bunkers being prepared for anELE? He/she shares “Just let me say, up until (an) event that (is) cosmological, everything that you see go on on a major scale no matter the cost of human life was planned out.”

    • The index of mass uprisings will certainly hit new highs this year.

  3. Fast Eddy says:

    Surely at some point … they will realize Koombaya .. is ineffective

    https://off-guardian.org/2021/07/24/discuss-worldwide-freedom-rally/

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1418623576756850698

    August 8 – no injection – eternal lockdown – Israel… blueprint for everywhere?

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1418633230861979649

    • Tim Groves says:

      Congratulations to the Israelis!!
      Jabbed or unjabbed, they are all Palestinians now.

      • “They are all Palestinians now.”

        Israel certainly has a lot of military and checkpoints, right now. It would be easy to extend this to more of the citizens.

  4. Fast Eddy says:

    I wonder how many unInjected are stroking there stiff barrels down there in their basements… in contemplation ….

    • Fillmore East says:

      A few are probably just bored, amateur Foley Artists who decided it was time to lever the action for Saturday night production value and threw in some Pinochet references for added signals list variety. This, that or the other thing has been listening for something incriminating beyond than the usual political talking points blustering anout Antifa, BLM, PCR and Fauci. Just now, AI-enhanced, community policing algorithms are calculating probabilities from actionable intelligence and generating reports for handlers, internet and electronic harassment are ramping up and informants are brainlessly responding to target location and description messages with instructions having failed to elicit the desired Pavlovian fear response in prior missions.

  5. Fast Eddy says:

    We know someone working the middle east… they can choose not to be Injected … but they have to take a weekly test at their expense USD100 per test

    https://summit.news/2021/07/23/cnn-segregate-unvaccinated-make-them-pay-for-tests-every-day/

    • Azure Kingfisher says:

      Damn. If the rest of the “civilized” world adopted the policy of charging the un-injected per test per week that would really turn the screw.

      • rufustiresias999 says:

        It is happening in France. Vaccin is not mandatory BUT : in September you will be charged 49 EUR for a test, and you will need a test every 3 days, to enter a train, a restaurant,…

        • Fast Eddy says:

          I read about a Toronto restaurant requiring proof of Injection earlier….

          You’ll never guess what I did….

          Well… I VPNed to Toronto … (kinda like being beamed up to the Enterprise) and I booked a table for 6 prime time Saturday … then I went to Tripadvisor … and dropped a scathing review….

          This sort of thing could backfire badly…

          • rufustiresias999 says:

            I would applause, if if wasn’t because you want the “face rip off”. Vade retro Satanas. Come on, show some mercy. So many innocents. You want CEP.

  6. Fast Eddy says:

    Iraq has signed an agreement allowing the cash-strapped Lebanese government to pay for 1 million tonnes of heavy fuel oil a year in goods and services, helping Lebanon ease its acute power shortage, the two sides said on Saturday.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/7/24/crisis-hit-lebanon-strikes-fuel-deal-with-iraq-to-ease-shortage

    Damn… Mad Max has been delayed…

    Tens of thousands of people across several countries, including France and Italy, have protested against anti-COVID measures, with the French police using tear gas and water cannon to disperse protesters in the capital Paris.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/7/24/protesters-against-covid-restrictions-clash-with-police-in-paris

    PR Team celebrates a Huge Victory… nearly 8B did not protest

  7. Fast Eddy says:

    Anti-lockdown protesters swarm Sydney, NSW records highest daily COVID-19 numbers | 9 News Australia YouTube · 154,000+ views · 16 hr ago · by 9 News Australia

    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=sydney+protests+today&&view=detail&mid=5E35B4E333F582AF51695E35B4E333F582AF5169&&FORM=VRDGAR&ru=%2Fvideos%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dsydney%2Bprotests%2Btoday%26FORM%3DHDRSC3

    • Rodster says:

      In France the Police joined the Covid protestors.

    • I see that there are protests elsewhere, too:

      “Anti-lockdown protests have also taken place in Melbourne and Brisbane, with thousands of people in each city also calling for freedom from restrictions.”

  8. Fast Eddy says:

    OMG 164 cases!!!!

    The protest comes as COVID-19 case numbers in the state reached another record with 163 new infections in the last 24 hours.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/7/24/arrests-as-anti-lockdown-protesters-clash-with-police-in-sydney

    Meanwhile …

    Ontario is reporting a slight day-over-day drop in new COVID-19 cases and three more deaths on Saturday.

    Provincial health officials logged 170 new coronavirus infections today, a decrease from 192 on Friday and from 176 a week ago.

    The province reported 185 new cases on Thursday, 135 on Wednesday and 127 on Tuesday.

    https://www.cp24.com/news/ontario-reports-fewer-than-200-new-covid-19-cases-3-more-deaths-1.5521878

    Surely Toronto numbers should be soaring without a Sydney-style lockdown?

    Obviously all numbers are fake… if Toronto wants a spike… they just test more… using the PCR test and running 40 cycles ….

    Duh….

    People are so f789ing stoooopid… how humans have stayed alive this long boggles the mind.

    That said – we’ve been around in current form for what 200k years? We are about to go extinct so surely that is some sort of record…. and we must be the only species that brought about its own extinction

    Now THAT… is STUUUUPID … on STEROIDS hahahaha

    And we think we are smart…. hahahahahahaha… GAWD….

    • Rodster says:

      It’s amazing people don’t do research and just listen to politicians and the Media control their thought process. Covid 19 is right up there with the Hong Kong flu, if that. The Governments, Health Organization and the Presstitute Media convinced the Plebs that this was The Black Plague II.

      • Xabier says:

        They just don’t think, don’t research even a little. Headlines are enough for them.

        Even The Guardian, one of the main sources of lies, published full info on cases and deaths: one glance at that last November told me that lock-downs were not warranted here in any way.

        Just as those to come, and the persecution of the intelligent un-vaxxed, will not be justified by science or reason.

        A Totalitarian Dark Age, illuminated only by, as Churchill said of the Nazis ‘the lights of perverted science’.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          And they get angry if you show them something like this https://www.openvaers.com/covid-data

          I’ve said it a thousand times… if Al Gore confessed that GW was all a heap of shi t… and presented evidence of that… the Green Groopies would accuse him of being paid by the fossil fuel industry … and they would dig their hole even deeper.

          THIS… is how stooopid … humans are… 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999% of them

  9. Azure Kingfisher says:

    You can also extend that sentiment to the vaccine manufacturers as well:

    Acting United States Attorney Michael L. Loucks
    District of Massachusetts

    JUSTICE DEPARTMENT ANNOUNCES LARGEST HEALTH CARE FRAUD
    SETTLEMENT IN ITS HISTORY

    Pfizer To Pay $2.3 Billion For Fraudulent Marketing

    “[Pfizer] has agreed to plead guilty to a felony violation of the Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act for misbranding Bextra with the intent to defraud or mislead. Bextra is an anti-inflammatory drug that Pfizer pulled from the market in 2005. Under the provisions of the Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act, a company must specify the intended uses of a product in its new drug application to FDA. Once approved, the drug may not be marketed or promoted for so-called ‘off-label’ uses – i.e., any use not specified in an application and approved by FDA. Pfizer promoted the sale of Bextra for several uses and dosages that the FDA specifically declined to approve due to safety concerns. The company will pay a criminal fine of $1.195 billion, the largest criminal fine ever imposed in the United States for any matter. [Pfizer] will also forfeit $105 million, for a total criminal resolution of $1.3 billion.
    “In addition, Pfizer has agreed to pay $1 billion to resolve allegations under the civil False Claims Act that the company illegally promoted four drugs – Bextra; Geodon, an anti-psychotic drug; Zyvox, an antibiotic; and Lyrica, an anti-epileptic drug – and caused false claims to be submitted to government health care programs for uses that were not medically accepted indications and therefore not covered by those programs. The civil settlement also resolves allegations that Pfizer paid kickbacks to health care providers to induce them to prescribe these, as well as other, drugs. The federal share of the civil settlement is $668,514,830 and the state Medicaid share of the civil settlement is $331,485,170. This is the largest civil fraud settlement in history against a pharmaceutical company.”

    https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/usao-ma/legacy/2012/10/09/Pfizer%20-%20PR%20%28Final%29.pdf

    But… but… it’s different this time!

    • This time it is a vaccine instead of a drug.

      • Mike Roberts says:

        Are you suggesting that Pfizer has lied about the vaccine?

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Hahahaha… the Lethal Injection you mean? Of course they lied… you do not give experimental anything to children who do not get very ill or die from a disease…

          You give it to the at risk people ONLY… because if it does what they say it does – stop you from dying … then it’s worth the risk to that population ONLY.

          Giving this to children is a crime against humanity.

          Pfizer execs should be charged with murder.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Have you got kids mike? If you want to bump them to the front of the line I’ve got some Injections that you can have … let me know where to send them

          Parents who give this garbage to their kids should be charged with child abuse… this is far worse than diddling a 12 year old

    • Xabier says:

      Pfizer is a ‘Trusted Source (TM)’ …of lies.

  10. Fast Eddy says:

    And they are giving this garbage to kids hahahaha… fortunately it was fully tested years ago… but those results are classified 🙂

    Will covid-19 vaccines save lives? Current trials aren’t designed to tell us

    As phase III trials of covid-19 vaccines reach their target enrolments, officials have been trying to project calm. The US coronavirus czar Anthony Fauci and the Food and Drug Administration leadership have offered public assurances that established procedures will be followed.1234 Only a “safe and effective” vaccine will be approved, they say, and nine vaccine manufacturers issued a rare joint statement pledging not to prematurely seek regulatory review.5

    But what will it mean exactly when a vaccine is declared “effective”? To the public this seems fairly obvious. “The primary goal of a covid-19 vaccine is to keep people from getting very sick and dying,” a National Public Radio broadcast said bluntly.6

    Peter Hotez, dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine in Houston, said, “Ideally, you want an antiviral vaccine to do two things . . . first, reduce the likelihood you will get severely ill and go to the hospital, and two, prevent infection and therefore interrupt disease transmission.”7

    Yet the current phase III trials are not actually set up to prove either (table 1). None of the trials currently under way are designed to detect a reduction in any serious outcome such as hospital admissions, use of intensive care, or deaths. Nor are the vaccines being studied to determine whether they can interrupt transmission of the virus.

    https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4037

    • Rodster says:

      Too many doctors who are warning that these vaccines can cause longterm harm but they have been silenced or cancelled.

    • This editorial is from October 21, 2020. The BMJ (short for British Medical Journal) is an esteemed publication.

    • Azure Kingfisher says:

      My favorite part:

      “Our trial will not demonstrate prevention of transmission,” [Tal Zaks, chief medical officer at Moderna] said, “because in order to do that you have to swab people twice a week for very long periods, and that becomes operationally untenable.”

      “He repeatedly emphasised these ‘operational realities’ of running a vaccine trial. ‘Every trial design, especially phase III, is always a balancing act between different needs,’ he said. ‘If you wanted to have an answer on an endpoint that happens at a frequency of one 10th or one fifth the frequency of the primary endpoint, you would need a trial that is either 5 or 10 times larger or you’d need a trial that is 5 or 10 times longer to collect those events. Neither of these, I think, are acceptable in the current public need for knowing expeditiously that a vaccine works.’

      “Zaks added, ‘A 30,000 [participant] trial is already a fairly large trial. If you’re asking for a 300 000 trial then you need to talk to the people who are paying for it, because now you’re talking about not a $500m to $1bn trial, you’re talking about something 10 times the size. And I think the public purse and operational capabilities and capacities we have are rightly spent not betting the farm on one vaccine but, as Operation Warp Speed [the US government’s covid-19 vaccine plan] is trying to do, making sure that we’re funding several vaccines in parallel.'”

      The Moderna trial will not demonstrate prevention of transmission. No conspiracy theory – straight from the Chief Medical Officer at Moderna.

      He thinks a 30,000 participant trial is a “fairly large trial,” but how many of those participants received the mRNA injection? How many received a placebo?

      Summary of Data from Phase 3 Clinical Trial

      “The primary efficacy analysis population (referred to as the Per-Protocol Set) included 28,207 participants who received two doses (at 0 and 1 month) of either Moderna COVID‑19 Vaccine (n=14,134) or placebo (n=14,073), and had a negative baseline SARS‑CoV‑2 status.

      “The median length of follow up for efficacy for participants in the study was 9 weeks post Dose 2. There were 11 COVID‑19 cases in the Moderna COVID‑19 Vaccine group and 185 cases in the placebo group, with a vaccine efficacy of 94.1% (95% confidence interval of 89.3% to 96.8%).

      “Ongoing surveillance for up to 2 years, from 14 days to 2 years past second dose, per protocol occurrence of COVID-19 with or without symptoms.”

      https://www.modernatx.com/covid19vaccine-eua/providers/clinical-trial-data

      How many remain in the placebo group? These would need to be pure, mRNA injection free individuals in order to serve as a control in this study.

    • Xabier says:

      To the honour of the editors, the BMJ has been very critical of Big pharma and the corrupt trials since the beginning.

      The Lancet, on the other hand, is utterly corrupt, and the regulators captured.

      This was all about gaining global regulatory acceptance of mRNA technologies, making a mint, and bouncing us unawares into the Digital Identity disguised as a ‘health passport’.

      And a little mass murder along the way….

    • MM says:

      The people reading Forbes magazine know that since 2020/9/9:

      https://www.forbes.com/sites/williamhaseltine/2020/09/23/covid-19-vaccine-protocols-reveal-that-trials-are-designed-to-succeed/#478a7b7a5247

      hint: you do not need to be a medical expert to understand this

  11. Fast Eddy says:

    Anti-lockdown protests across the world seem to be occurring both more regularly and on larger scales. Most recently, thousands have marched in major Australian cities, including Sydney, Melbourne and Adelaide, against restrictive measures, with more than half of Australians currently under lockdown.

    After the protests had ended, the New South Wales Police Minister, David Elliott, issued a firm warning to all who marched – not just the few who turned violent. He announced the formation of “Strike Force Seasoned, which will see 22 detectives work from now until whenever it concludes identifying as many people as possible who attended today’s incident and have them charged”. He went on:

    I’m hoping that we issue 3,500 infringement notices, I’m hoping that we have people before the court, and I really hope that we can get some charges and convictions out of today’s work by the New South Wales police. It’s essential for people to get the message. And to those that are calling for it to occur again next week, look out because these 400 officers will turn to 4,000 if needs be.

    https://dailysceptic.org/2021/07/24/thousands-march-against-lockdown-in-major-australian-cities/

    • Xabier says:

      Gauleiter Elliott has spoken.

      If people do go to court in Oz, they should declare their health status, disproving the false idea that such gatherings spread the virus. They should all be ill in a week or so otherwise.

      Mass gatherings here in the UK resulted in no explosion of infection, undeniably.

  12. Fast Eddy says:

    New Data Casts Doubt on the Effectiveness of Covid Vaccines Against Infection

    https://dailysceptic.org/2021/07/24/new-data-casts-doubt-on-the-effectiveness-of-covid-vaccines-against-infection/

    https://dailysceptic.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/image-8.png

    Hold tight… Devil Covid is Brewing

    • This article posts a chart from the Financial Times that suggests that death rate from Delta might be higher in some countries with low vaccine coverage. So it doesn’t seem to be convinced that Delta is necessarily a disease with less severe outcomes.

      https://dailysceptic.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/ft-vaccination-effect-2-768×280-1.jpg

      The article concludes:

      The most important conclusion should be that vaccination offers little to no benefit to other people, so no one (least of all children) should be vaccinated in the wrongheaded belief they will protect others. Neither can there be any justification for coercing the population to be vaccinated through vaccine passports and the like, as vaccination is a personal choice that protects the vaccinated person only.

      The fact that the vaccines appear to prevent serious disease and death should be sufficient to allow life to return to normal now that all the vulnerable are vaccinated. In truth, even if the vaccines didn’t prevent serious disease we should return to normal because there is no evidence restrictions are effective in reducing infections or deaths. And even if restrictions were effective there is no evidence they do more good than harm.

      • Mike Roberts says:

        Yes, I do cringe at some of the reporting on vaccines. I haven’t yet seen research about the ability of vaccines to limit the catching of the virus and to limit the passing on of the virus, but the primary benefit appears to be that they limit the severity of the disease, if caught. This seems to be what we’re seeing in countries where vaccination coverage is high (the majority of the population).

        However, the UK new cases number appears to be lessening, even after “freedom day”.

      • Mike Roberts says:

        By the way, the second last sentence of the quoted piece is wrong. There certainly is evidence that restrictions are effective in limiting the spread of the disease, though a critical factor is how well such restrictions are followed.

  13. Bei Dawei says:

    Question for the board: What do you think of Russia? Is it a thug-ocracy, a power in inexorable demographic and political decline? Or is it the last bastion of white Christian civilization, that will survive the collapse of the West?

    • well, an organisation that sends of assassins to bump off people who upset the leader seems to have something in common with the mafiosi.
      and also throws contestants for leadership in jail seems to have the same intent

      I don’t think any ‘civilisation’ can survive ‘collapse of the west’—whatever that might mean. I can’t see any nation, big or small, existing in some kind of isolation surrounded by a sea of anarchy and chaos.

      my reason for that is , that their borders would have to be constantly and increasingly defended. and that in turn would ultimately exhaust the resource base that were trying to defend.
      I don’t know the ratio is, but an active modern soldier must need something like a dozen? others to keep him in the field?

      Nukes are out, because that would contaminate the planet itself

    • Thug-ocracy eh? Which countries and cities are cleaner and less violent after dark (or even during daylight) comparatively speaking? Which countries keep strategic reserves of food stuff for the pop vs leaving it on “efficiency of the markets” etc..

      It’s a predictor of managed stabilization and refocus-reconstruction in an enclave after experiencing partial collapse. Tossing out past ideologies (own or imported) and instead focusing humbly on the very core elementary projects like national survival (and projecting that interest) per given specifics.

      Similarly, one could expect some similar core entities of former larger states (proactively attempting to suspend collapse at some stage) forming also in other parts of the world alongside the progressing collapse path.

      Obviously, if said surviving one third or fifth (of the former large conglomerate) is to live further in some capacity, those jettisoned former appendixes are left to sheer destitution, pariah status.

      It’s almost like the coppiced / pollarded tree, some came into new shoots of growth after performing such harsh procedure, while others won’t make it at all.

      To sum up that’s where staircase vs ultra fast collapse scenarios are duking it out.

      • Bei Dawei says:

        Well, Putin is sometimes compared to a mafioso, and the Magnitsky hearings brought up the interesting detail that he, personally (not on behalf of the government), expects 50 percent of profits from his oligarchs. And of course he makes use of legal and extralegal means to repress political opponents, muckraking journalists,etc. Similar behavior has been ascribed to various regional leaders.

        I’m not sure how Putin feels about the loss of former Soviet territories. On one hand, it makes economic sense for Russia to divest itself of them, as you suggest. On the other hand, the former borders were far more defensible. Does Putin aspire to retake some of the “near abroad”? If so, does he want this as a goal in itself, or for for the sake of boosting his own domestic popularity (as with Crimea)? Does he really care about Russian greatness, or is he just lining his own pockets? (And why? Doesn’t he have enough money?) I confess that I have never understood his motivations, although I recognize that he is probably playing some sort of advanced geo-political chess game.

        • As alluded above, the motivation is betterment of homeland, perhaps too abstract and incomprehensible concept to contemplate by many in other cultures and younger generations.. seldom encountering such need / priority in themselves nor observed among their ruling elites.

          If “he” clinched on various oligarchs after ~2000 (when consolidating power) to make them finally start paying taxes and or settle various workers grievances, it was presented in global msm as supposedly taking their money for himself (as per crime syndicate), which is beyond silly, or perhaps just revealing the depths of mental deprivation taking place in many W countries recently..

          Understandably, paternalistic (and nationalistic) rule is getting tiresome to specific segments and factions of society quickly (urban liberal class – eyeing global trendies), which is easily then leveraged up by foreign meddlers for political stunts – nevertheless I’d posit the majority can make the easy comparison of their personal and general performance of the country over the years. Moreover, the very recent yrs with the whole Ukraine fiasco (now becoming impoverished failed state chewed out hollow by the W), the sanctions debacle, etc. disgusted thoroughly even a lot of the regime antagonists, not mentioning the avg pop.

      • Xabier says:

        I just did that to a 200 yr-old blackthorn, which seemed to be on its last legs – very few berries, etc.

        Got some good firewood out of it, but left a stump as it’s a very hard wood to cut with hand-tools.

        Now it is covered in strong, fresh, green shoots, so the stump is reprieved.

        May the best in humanity flourish again like that……

        Any idea that Russia is morally inferior to the West – what can one say to such naivety? Not only assassinations lie to our account, but the wrecking of whole regions and states.

        And are the controllers of our system- Rothschilds, the BIS, etc – any less corrupt than the oligarchs and Putin’s clique? Smoother, that’s all.

        • ~40+ yrs old black currant bush reborn (+exclusively wet season this year) suddenly producing like crazy again.. nature is full of surprises and revital potential.. if listened to properly..

    • Mirror on the wall says:

      The terms seem overly vague and uncritical. Indeed Russia has often been conceived as distinct from ‘Western civilisation’ or as having an ambiguous relation to it. Peter the Great ‘westernised’ and ‘modernised’ Russia to some extent in the 16-17 c.; and then there was the USSR, the ‘eastern bloc’ in the 20th.

      It is a particular reading of history to see European civilisation as single, unique, characteristic and distinct from outside influences. Christianity itself is a non-European religion, so the terms ‘white, Christian’ would be oxymoronic if taken in a strict sense. ‘Western’ often reflected the Catholic/ Orthodox dichotomy a la Russia, and then capitalism/ communism.

      Europe has had different religions, different political structures, different social ‘values’, different economic and cultural forms at different times – paganism, feudalism, capitalism, totalitarianism. Even in the broadest terms, the question of ‘a civilisation’ is a subject of philosophy – eg. Spengler conceived classical Mediterranean and post-Roman Medieval ‘civilisations’ as wholly distinct in character.

      Perhaps reflecting his time, Spengler did not see ‘white, European’ (Germanic) civilisation as continuous with classical civilisation or to particularly include most Europeans. And there have been other perspectives and interpretations – some speak of a ‘J/deao-Christian civilisation’ that is not necessarily European, some of a European culture rooted in Athens and Rome, which is a common ‘Renaissance’ perspective. Different people construct it in different conceptual ways, often dependent on how they interpret their own identity, and their agenda.

      So it not a simple matter of an obvious, given, single or even coherent ‘white Christian civilisation’. The world is always in flux and people make and remake their civilisations. And their character and continuity is a matter of perspective and interpretation that is often rooted in the subjective, personal and temporal. That is not to deny some elements of continuity but it is a complex, fluid, ambiguous picture that is not so easy to declare in three words.

      • Bei Dawei says:

        I agree with you. I use this language because Russian propaganda sometimes contrasts “Western” culture with Orthodox Christian values. Western Europe is attractive to young Russians for many reasons–its wealth, democracy, human rights, pop culture, etc. Russia can’t really compete on that basis, so it tries to associate Western liberalism in the popular Russian consciousness with things like LGBT activism, and frame the conflict as Christian civilization on one side, atheists and transgenders on the other.

        Some white nationalists have a positive impression of Russia for racial reasons, and this may have driven recent Republican policy to some degree. Of course, not all Russians are white, and the proportion of Central Asians has been rising sharply. Absorption into a Chinese-led Eurasian bloc is also a real possibility.

  14. Ed says:

    Just back from Maine coast. Sharp divide. Banners telling locals they can get clean needles, narcan, and fentanyl test stripes free at the church or delivered free to your home. Then there are the vacationers from Boston and NYC. $200,000 cars, $500 a night inn rooms, $200 a plate dinners excluding the wines. America the beautiful….

  15. Mirror on the wall says:

    Picking up on Artleads’ theme about how past slavery affects the present.

    A tangible effect is that millions of Africans were enslaved for centuries on Jamaica and harshly exploited, and they did not receive the collective developmental benefit of their labour. Britain profited loads out of centuries of slavery, providing the accumulation of capital on which to build the modern, prosperous society, and slave owners were compensated from the public purse upon abolition, but Jamaicans received no compensation for centuries of enslavement and their unpaid labour, and Jamaica today is heavily in debt.

    That raises the ‘moral’ question of very substantial compensation for Jamaicans to transfer some of the developmental benefits had from slavery to the descendants of the slaves – and possibly we should be talking in terms of trillions rather than billions.

    > ‘The damaging effects of slavery are ongoing’: Jamaica demands reparations from the Queen

    Jamaica’s government is set to demand reparations for Black people from the Queen for Britain’s role in the transatlantic slave trade.

    A petition is being prepared and will be submitted to Her Majesty and the UK government.

    Jamaica became a British colony in 1655. Between then and 1838, it stole over three million African people away from their homes across the continent and trafficked them across Atlantic Ocean as part of the Transatlantic Slave Trade.

    Enslaved Black people were forcibly brought to British-owned colonies in the Caribbean, including Jamaica, and sold to work on plantations, cultivating sugar and other crops; brutalised and dehumanised all the while.

    Through its engagement in the trade, Britain benefitted from immense financial profit which set the very foundation for the country as we know it today.

    Following emancipation, in one of the largest loans in history, the UK government borrowed £20 million from the Treasury to compensate slave owners for the inconvenience of not having enslaved Africans to make them rich.

    This was only paid off in full in 2015 – by British taxpayers – while the descendants of those who were enslaved have not received any reparations and Jamaica continues to owe a staggeringly high amount of debt to the International Monetary Fund (IMF) of which the UK is a part.

    Though the country gained independence from the UK in 1962 after more than 300 years of British colonial rule, Jamaica remains in the Commonwealth and has kept the Queen as its head of state.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/jamaica-slavery-reparations-queen-uk-b1878682.html

    • And will Jamaicans demand reparations from the groups of North African (i.e. paler skinned) people who were instrumental in capturing equatorial Africans (i.e. darker skinned) people, herding them in pens at the coast and selling them to the slave-shippers who took then across the Atlantic?

      It was the tribal elders who profited from a line of commerce which was effectively energy trading. The poor African nobody just got shipped out for money

      There was no possible way that the white man could have entered the hinterland of the African continent on a slaving expedition.

      Africans sold Africans

      **********

      fast forward to our own time.

      West African oil is being looted. Rich tribal leaders are creaming off vast profits and stashing them in Swiss banks while the ordinary modern African is left with nothing.

      I feel I can’t be the only one to see the correlation

      • Mirror on the wall says:

        There is no comparison between the developmental benefit had by the societies in question. Africans got trinkets from the white slavers while Britain extracted trillions over centuries from the slaves. That unpaid labour provided the capital basis for the development of Britain into the modern, prosperous society, while Jamaicans were excluded from the collective developmental benefit of the labour of their ancestors. An immense transference of funds from Britain to Jamaica would redress the unjust and wholly unequal enjoyment of the collective developmental benefit of unpaid slavery between Britain and Jamaica.

        > £7.5 trillion for slavery

        Reparations commission says Ja would be due £2.3 trillion of total for Caribbean

        THE National Commission on Reparations (NCR) says Jamaica would be due at least £2.3 trillion (approximately J$416.3 trillion) from any slavery reparations paid by Britain to the region. This money would be able to pay off Jamaica’s national debt of $2 trillion and set the nation on a new economic path.

        The figure was based on the NCR’s calculation of Jamaica’s 30.64 per cent of the £7.5 trillion calculated by British academic theologian, Dr Robert Beckford, as being owed by Britain to its former colonies. The information was included in the NCR’s report which was finally completed and tabled in the House of Representatives last Tuesday.

        The calculation was divided into the three sections:

        (1) Unpaid Labour: Beckford’s team estimated that for unpaid labour Britain owes £4 trillion;

        (2) Benefit to the economy or unjust enrichment: His team said Britain earned £5,000,000 per year from sugar during the peak of the industry, thus over a century alone Britain made £500,000,000. Calculated at today’s rate, that amount equalled to £2.5 trillion;

        (3) Calculation of human cost/pain and suffering: Using the estimate £12,500 average compensation granted to a British citizen for bondage in prison and/or wrongful imprisonment, multiplied by the average 20 years of labour for an enslaved African, the total cost for an individual African would be £250,000. When this is multiplied by the estimated number of Africans who survived the Middle Passage, plus those who were born into slavery, the total cost for pain and suffering is estimated at £1 trillion.

        The total monetary reparation owned by Britain, according to Beckford’s calculations, would be an estimated £7.5 trillion. Jamaica’s share, using Beckford’s estimate, would equal to 30.6 per cent of that £7.5 trillion, or £2,298 trillion.

        https://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/-7-5-trillion-for-slavery

        • Harry McGibbs says:

          I am doubtful this will happen as the UK is already $2.2trillion in debt and has just locked in a cut to foreign aid. I think it is a case of cant pay, won’t pay.

        • I read some years ago that Gaddafi was going to sue the Brits and the Germans for warring over Libya in 1942

      • Artleads says:

        My understanding of history is hazy. My rough estimate is that Arabs have historically enslaved sub Saharan people of darker skin. Their form of slavery routinely castrated their male slaves. To my understanding, Arabks had little of nothing to do with the trans Atlantic slave trade. That was a west African project, where “Africans” (i.e. black people) did indeed sell “Africans” accruing to tribal conflict. Although both Arab and European slavery were extraordinarily cruel, the British, above all, had some redeeming virtues.

        As to reparations and removing the Queen as head of state in anglophone Caribbean nations, Barbadoes, which did it, has been reported to be having severe debt problems, thus showing no clear economic improvement from its decision.

        • Malcopian says:

          North Africans (Arabs and Muslims) used to raid the coast of England and snatch people away. The young boys and men were routinely castrated – no anesthetics back then. Some of them will have been my ancestors. Do I get compensated for that?

          In Roman times, around 30 percent of Europeans were slaves to other Europeans. Do I get compensated for that?

          The fact is, we are not responsible for what our ancestors did. That is to put the cart before the horse and is illogical.

        • Mirror on the wall says:

          British slavery had ‘redeeming virtues’?

          This is from a review of a new book on the subject.

          > Jamaica’s 1831 Revolt Dealt a Hammer Blow to Colonial Slavery

          Tom Zoellner’s book Island on Fire is an important contribution to our understanding of what Saidiya Hartman has described as the “afterlife” of slavery. Zoellner documents in vivid detail the base violence and inhumanity of institutionalised slavery in plantation-era Jamaica. But he also tells a story of irrepressible resistance and self-organisation that generated the slave rebellion of 1831.

          It was a mass uprising that became a critical turning point in the demise of a system that had sustained Europe’s empires for centuries. Island on Fire is not light reading. The details recounted by Zoellner, who draws on extensive historical documentation, are often harrowing. However, his storytelling ability makes this history extremely readable, if not less painful.

          Suburb of Hell

          The author describes white plantation society in colonial Jamaica as “a suburb of Hell,” where “the stultifying class system that reigned back home in England was completely reframed in the West Indies.” The main defining characteristic of this colonial society was the accumulation of black Africans as slave property and the use of their labor. One clear mark of class privilege among the plantation owners was absenteeism: those who could afford to leave the island, “the moneyed overclass,” would return to England.

          Nine out of ten Jamaicans were enslaved. The island’s system of rule rested on coercion without even a semblance of consent. It was therefore inherently unstable. The resident white plantocracy ruled colonial Jamaica as a small minority living in constant fear of the slave population upon whom their wealth and privilege depended. Zoellner compares these structural features of Jamaica in the early 1800s to conditions in the US South, with a slave population accounting for 33 percent of the total — a region where, in contrast, “freehold farms and small artisanal businesses coexisted with large plantations.”

          The Jamaican colonial ruling class displayed a “know-nothingness,” relying purely on coercion through “the hands of plantation bosses and their muskets and whips,” in a way that was comparable to frontier settlements. British colonialism chiefly meted out its violence and pernicious greed against the kidnapped and enslaved bodies of black Africans, but it was also not uncommon for guns to be drawn when disputes broke out between local white political figures.

          Jamaica’s original name in the language of the Taino people, Xaymaca, means “land of wood and water.” As a British colony, it possessed extensive, fertile land and masses of capital, but lacked sufficient labor after the destruction of the indigenous population through disease and enslavement. The Atlantic slave trade thus became the pivotal element in an international accumulation process.

          A region of West Africa — today comprised of the nations of Benin, Ghana, Togo, and parts of Nigeria — became the vile hunting ground for European merchants. Britain came to rule the slave trade as well as the waves. As Zoellner puts it: “The Royal African Company would go on to haul away more black bodies than any other institution in history, and give the British nearly three-quarters of market share.”

          The deadly passage, the auction in human flesh, and the brutal exploitation of labour in conditions that C.L.R. James compared to modern industrial production ultimately generated enormous profit: “The average white male resident in Jamaica was 52.3 times wealthier than his peer back in England, and 57.6 times as wealthy as a white man living in New England.” At every point in the political economy and social fabric of this system, violence and torture was deeply embedded. It was organised around working the slaves to death….

          https://thewire.in/books/jamaicas-1831-revolt-dealt-a-hammer-blow-to-colonial-slavery

          • when considering the problems and horror of slavery

            it might be as well to remember that while slavery was abolished in the uk in 1833, we allowed children as young as four to work in coalmines until 1842.

            the common purpose was extraction of energy as cheaply as possible

            • Xabier says:

              Now, Norman, you will be aware that children recommend themselves as profitable experimental subjects to Big Pharma, and also to the data harvesters.

              A new kind of slavery and abuse for a Post-Industrial Age.

            • ii suppose you have an ultimate purpose in mind in continuing such a foolish concept

              all the ‘proof’ that keeps getting regurgitated is simply that, a constant rehash of stuff thats been said over and over, as if the retelling will somehow make it true.

              Its just the latest in a line of ‘hoaxes’ that goes on down the years—no matter what—something comes up—the conspiracy brigade are on it.

              Groucho Marx summed it up perfectly

            • Xabier says:

              Well, Norman, if instead of wallowing in (self-imposed) ignorance you had taken my tip and looked at material openly published on the plans of Big Tech for children and the education system, you would have realised that my claims are rock-solid.

              Children will be wired up and data-mined, and have a Digital Identity imposed on them from birth.

              And it is also true that the children who are being vaccinated now, and the very young ones in trials, are experimental subjects.

              Many will be poisoned, some die both in the trials and the mas vaccinations.

              I make these claims because they are fact – unlike the naive fictions you prefer to espouse, and your complacency about the crimes being committed, and planned for the near future.

            • you forgot the injections of iron fillings

              maybe I’m one of life’s innocents, but I read your comment and still can’t believe you’re not trying to wind me up. How far do you intend to go with this Dr Mengele’ act?

              talk about over-eddying the pudding!!!!

              there must be several million items on the internet ‘proving’ your every word. I’ve read some of it. For every attention seeking ‘doctor’, I can find you 1000 whose brains are functioning normally

              Even David Icke (Mr Lizard brain himself) has come out from under his stone again and started ranting—hadn’t heard from him in years

              Check him out—I’d be worried about being in company like that on any subject—but–we must accept all the truth we read, or should that be all the truth we already believe?

              Quote:

              >>>>>A group of reptilian humanoids, called the Babylonian Brotherhood, control humanity.
              David Icke<<<<<<

              he gives hatters a bad name.

              may I ask if you have kids of your own Xabier?

              (my comment was about slavery and child labour at the same time in UK btw–I don't quite see the connection?)

            • Artleads says:

              I’m pretty sure you’re misunderstanding Grouch, or twisting his meaning to suit your own purpose. Groucho was anti-establishment. He was not against those who were anti establishment.

          • Artleads says:

            One redeeming “virtue” of the British (among quite a few) is that they ran the country in a systematic way. They did not overuse the natural resources the way they’re being overused today under a native government.

            Also, their style of government allowed transition to a political system where black people have absolute political choice (on paper). All adults can vote. Since the British relinquished total control in 1962, the country has, without violence, become a black hegemony. Nothing is preventing it from becoming an “African” state except the mental barrier to ideas entertained by its black people. Black people were forcibly removed from the African continent, enslaved and abused, but ended up with territory that COULD be seen as part of a larger African domain. Reverse colonialism. The British isn’t preventing them from doing that. You can’t blame universal stupidity entirely on the British.

          • Artleads says:

            One redeeming “virtue” of the British (among quite a few) is that they ran the country in a systematic way. They did not overuse the natural resources the way they’re being overused today under a native government.

            Also, their style of government allowed transition to a political system where black people have absolute political choice (on paper). All adults can vote. Since the British relinquished total control in 1962, the country has, without violence, become a black hegemony. Nothing is preventing it from becoming an “African” state except the mental barrier to ideas entertained by its black people. Black people were forcibly removed from the African continent, enslaved and abused, but ended up with territory that COULD be seen as part of a larger African domain. Reverse colonialism. The British isn’t preventing them from doing that. You can’t blame universal stew PDT entirely on the British.

        • Xabier says:

          Castrated males fetched 8 times as much in the Muslim slave markets, but 25% of those operated on died in consequence, fro blood loss and infection – worth the gamble to an investor or trader.

      • Karl says:

        Slavery was and is a reprehensible institution. It seems to me, though, that the comparative wealth generated by it pales in comparison to the wealth generated by fossil fuels and industrial civilization. The demand for trillions of dollars in reparations always strikes me as wildly outlandish. Prior to 1850 or so, most of humanity lived like 3rd world peasants. The riches produced by human bondage would have been meager. I’m a second rate lawyer doing commodity level legal work, and my lifestyle would have put me in the company of kings 200 years ago(and in many ways, like air travel, fresh produce in winter, and indoor plumbing, put me ahead of the Kings). The reparations hustle is just political theatre.

        • Artleads says:

          “The reparations hustle is just political theatre.”

          Couldn’t argue there.

        • social status is dependent on access to and control of energy.

          A king can ‘own’ a country in the literal sense. This hasn’t been so in Europe for centuries, but it is so in some petty kingdoms in Africa.

          he therefore also owns all that the country is and what it produces

          the medieval king couldn’t have more than the sum of the national energy pot.. He might own 1000 horses, but couldn’t travel faster than the fastest of them. That was the ultimate ‘life control’ on his existence. He didn’t know that gravity or disease or darkness or distance could be overcome.

          You have power far beyond that of any king, we all do in a sense. We exist as we do thanks to our national energy pot. Which is truly colossal.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Easy to say when you have hundreds of slaves … to power your cushy life.

          I suspect you’d quickly change your mind on this if you lost your fossil fuel slaves… humans are very good at rationalizing …

          Just like we rationalize dropping bombs on the Middle East to ensure we have plenty of fossil fuel slaves…

          Those who try to oppose this theft… are ‘terrorists’… and deserve to be bombed. Right?

    • Mirror on the wall says:

      The British state has dismissed the petition to the UK government and queen for some meagre and wholly inadequate reparations for slavery on Jamaica, dismissing any claim based on the indirect impact of collective developmental benefit had and not had from the unpaid slavery to the societies in question, and wrangling about details of practicalities. The simple solution would have been for the UK government to transfer funds to the Jamaican government so that it can invest them in Jamaican development just as the UK government invests in UK development.

      Perhaps now is the time to push for the abolition of the British monarchy in Jamaica and for the establishment of a Jamaican republic outside of the British ‘Commonwealth’ (ironic title). There clearly are no adequate ties of moral solidarity, or financial regularity, between the two societies and it is wrong that the Jamaican constitution should imply otherwise. It is time for Jamaica to go its own way and to separate itself entirely from the UK. The current quasi-colonial status is an insult to Jamaicans past and present.

      > Jamaica’s £7 Billion Reparations Claim Dismissed By British High Commissioner

      Asif Ahmad, the British High Commissioner to Jamaica, dismissed the nation’s claim for reparations totalling £7 billion after Jamaica announced its intention to file a petition to seek compensation from Britain for its participation in the transatlantic slave trade. Ahmad said that the request for reparations directly from government to government “will not prosper” because it would be difficult to know how to make the payment to as those directly harmed by the activity “are no longer here.” To date, the government of the United Kingdom has only paid compensation to living individuals, Ahmad said, citing the example of compensation paid under the Windrush Compensation Scheme. While the impact of slavery on the Caribbean is “unforgiveable,” Ahmad said claims for reparations are not “viable” because there is no clear plan about who the recipients will be and who will pay it.

      https://jamaicans.com/jamaicas-7-billion-reparations-claim-dismissed-by-british-high-commissioner-asif-ahmad/

      • Mirror on the wall says:

        Momentum is building on Jamaica for the abolition of the British monarchy and the establishment of a Jamaican republic.

        Barbados is already going through the process of abolition of the monarchy.

        > Jamaica opposition leader says Queen should be removed as head of state for island ‘to be truly independent’

        Jamaica’s Opposition Leader, numerous equalities campaigners and organisations are calling for the Queen to be removed as the nation’s head of state as the government prepares to lobby Britain for slavery reparations.

        Mark Golding, who took over premiership of the People’s National Party (PNP) in November 2020, described the measure as being of vital importance, particularly in the wake of the Black Lives Matter resurgence and global discourse around colonialism.

        “I don’t think that one could argue that we are fully independent when our head of state is somebody who lives on the other side of the Atlantic ocean and isn’t a Jamaican. From my perspective, and that of the People’s National Party, this is something that we have been committed to for a long time and we continue to be committed to it.”

        He added: “There is, as I understand it, bi-partisan support on the matter of removing the Queen as our Head of State in Jamaica, to having a Jamaican person as our Head of State through a non-executive presidency within the Commonwealth; similar what Trinidad did some decades ago. That has been something that both parties have committed themselves to.”

        In its 2016 manifesto, Jamaica’s current government, under Andrew Holness, committed to addressing the matter around removing the Queen.

        “It’s high time for Jamaica to complete the process of emancipation from the British monarchy,” Ms Cooper told The Independent.

        https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/jamaica-queen-independence-reparation-monarchy-b1881189.html

        • Malcopian says:

          Agreed. And it’s time to get rid of the anachronistic award of the ‘Order of the British Empire’ here in the UK.

        • Tim Groves says:

          Momentum is building on Jamaica for the abolition of the British monarchy and the establishment of a Jamaican republic.

          Why not? Since this strategic manoeuvre has worked so well for places such as Zimbabwe, South Africa, Nigeria, and Ceylon.

          I daresay Bob Marley will be jammin’ in his grave.

          • Mirror on the wall says:

            ‘We’re jammin… I hope you like jammin too!’

            Tim knows his Bob… even if that is all he knows!

      • Artleads says:

        {While the impact of slavery on the Caribbean is “unforgiveable,” Ahmad said claims for reparations are not “viable” because there is no clear plan about who the recipients will be and who will pay it.}

        Good point.

    • Ed says:

      I am told Jamaican black consider themselves to be much smarter than American blacks. Any data?

      • Artleads says:

        You’re oversimplifying a very complex issue. Unfortunately, I don’t know where to suggest you go looking for basic information on the subject. A long discussion thread on it might help. Jamaica gained its independence from Britain in 1962. Up to that time British education was class based and “layered.” Elite secondary schools at the top, and trade schools at the bottom (where there WAS schooling). Over all, the British system (on average) might have provided a better education than America (in recent historical times). But education now is incredibly poor, both in Jamaica and America. Also, globalism has muted national differences.

        • I was half listening to a uk radio prog this week, they were interviewing a well known Jamaican cricketer/now cricket commentator.

          it got onto racism in the game, so I focussed in a bit

          then he discussed his own family

          Quote,: ”My mother was ostracised by her family because she was of a ‘light’ colour (not white) , but she married a ‘black’ Jamaican”

          tells you all you need to know about the stratas of racism

  16. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Coronavirus and the global recovery: the dangers of whiplash economics.

    “Just 10 days ago, markets were fixated on the risks of overheating economies stoking a surge in inflation — piling pressure on policymakers to consider an early withdrawal of pandemic-era stimulus measures. This week began with a sharp sell-off in global equities as fears grew over the spread of the Delta variant. By midweek, stock prices had bounced back — but US Treasury yields remained at rock bottom levels, suggesting creeping doubts about the strength of the global recovery.

    “So swift has been the turnround that anyone following the twists in global markets over the past fortnight could well be suffering from whiplash.”

    https://www.ft.com/content/d8145288-5a4a-4215-a4c3-4562a780d86f

    • Harry McGibbs says:

      “Shortest Recession In History Sets Up Next Recession… It is essential to note that the NBER stated that any subsequent downturn would get labeled as a “new” recession.

      “While recessions, like forest fires, have terrible short-term impacts, they also allow the system to reset for healthier growth in the future.

      “Given the structural fragility of the global economic and financial system, policymakers remain trapped in the process of trying to prevent recessions from occurring due to the extreme debt levels.”

      https://seekingalpha.com/article/4441119-macroview-shortest-recession-in-history-sets-up-next-recession

      • The article says,

        According to the National Bureau of Economic Research, the contraction lasted just two months, from February 2020 to April 2020. However, during those two months, the economy fell by 31.4% (GDP), and the financial markets plunged by 33%. Both of those declines, as shown in the table below, are within historical norms.

        The economy fell for three months until massive government programs hid the effect of the recession. The underlying causes are still in place. Governments are still debating what more needs to be done. The problem is not past.

  17. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Bubble trouble brewing in the housing market.

    “With property prices around the world now growing by double digits, how big a risk are central banks running?”

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2021/07/24/bubble-trouble-brewing-housing-market/

  18. Harry McGibbs says:

    “The horror scenario lurking in the plumbing of finance. Federal Reserve and US government action is leading to a shortage of quality collateral to underpin trades…

    “…the Fed is ensuring that much of the short-term US government paper that might be available is locked up in accounts where it cannot be used to secure the myriad financial transactions that keep the global economy ticking over. Sort of like the idiot teenage horror victim who loses the keys to the escape car.”

    https://www.ft.com/content/a0482f69-be5c-4d92-ae59-17a8e2b2cdde

    • “a shortage of quality collateral to underpin trades” is not something most of us lay people would notice, until some big part of the system brakes.

    • Given the pre-existing and evolving (trend) in balance of power the brewing resolution is most likely the brake up of Mr. Smooth Operator von Global into smaller and insular trade-econ/polit/defense zones of influence, each zone commanding different level of opulence and priorities. From that follows brake up or at least alteration of many supply chains now taken for granted (or not so much lately).. but the effects would be perceived rather differently around the world.

      As seen on the ground, lets say for the near-mid term you will be still able to source replacement kitchen sink water faucet in some countries, yet personal car tires being more readily available in another one (well 5week ordering period), and so on.. Obviously, we are still talking cascading de-growth (in limbo) transition period of many of the legacy subsystems staying sort of quasi operational, not full on after collapse musings.

  19. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Abnormal heatwave in Russia threatens this year’s harvest… the biggest problem is that July is expected to not only be hot but also dry.

    “For a month, in Central Russia, at best, just 20-30% of precipitation from the climatic norm will fall. In the northwest of the region, no rainfall may be seen at all. With this in mind, analysts said that this year’s drought could be unprecedented.”

    https://www.allaboutfeed.net/animal-feed/raw-materials/abnormal-heatwave-in-russia-threatens-this-years-harvest/

    • Harry McGibbs says:

      “Drought forces North American farmers to turn food crops to hay.

      “Drought is withering crops on both sides of the U.S.-Canadian border, prompting farmers to take the rare measure of baling up their wheat and barley stems to sell as hay… The dry conditions highlight how extreme weather is affecting agriculture and stoking higher prices that have fueled food-inflation concerns.”

      https://phys.org/news/2021-07-drought-north-american-farmers-food.html

    • We cannot keep population near the maximum level. If there are bad harvests some years, there will be problems.

      • Herbie R Ficklestein says:

        Funny thing is as I stroll about I can’t but help obverse plenty of families that feel otherwise…plenty of young mothers and fathers with their brood about dotting over them. It’s one thing to think” “we can’t” and another to actually implement into the individual …don’t bother telling couples not to curtail their breeding …
        The culling will be rather unpleasant…

        https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AfOdRUztec8

        YouTube on Starving in Victorian England, true story of one family struggle to survive to feed their family

      • Dennis L. says:

        Thinking locally, don’t really understand global, this comment from Tim Morgan:

        “Aiming for sustainability would mean giving up, not just on the myth of “growth”, but on the motivation system (“fear and greed”) that goes with it. Current levels of inequality – ignoring for now any moral dimension, but in purely practical terms – are inconsistent with achieving sustainability. In the absence of growth, “levelling up” won’t work without a counterpart of “levelling down.”

        It is consistent with the social disorder we are seeing globally.

        However, Elon again:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44Klhl81K7g

        Looking at population collapse, in the US we are importing people otherwise it is my understanding population would be declining. More importantly, it is demographics, the old(I am old) are not as productive as the young(theoretically), and require more maintenance. At 2:00 min or there about he mentions the demographic issue. He has I believe six children. At the end he goes into RNA/DNA and possibilities.

        Question: Why can’t AI live forever? It is only energy and there is no shortage of it in the solar system let alone the universe.

        To paragraph 2, we need and want growth, we will have it, thus it has always been, betting against it is a bad bet based on historical experience.

        Humans are going forward, it will be a change, the trick is to be on the right side, and let go of what is no longer how things are going. If one is a dinosaur, grow wings.

        Dennis L.

        • The economy moves in one of two directions:
          1. Up (generally relatively slowly)
          2. Down

          There is no level ground. It depends on rising population for growing demand. Humans, with their mastery of energy (even burned biomass), have been outcompeting other species for a very long time, leading to rising population. There is also a need for growth in energy consumption to help offset diminishing returns (deeper wells, thinner coal seams etc.) and the need for workarounds for rising pollution.

          Debt is used extensively, as well as other future promises. The ever-rising prices of homes are future promises, in a sense.

          As long as everything is rising, things work. When they stop rising, the system tends to collapse. Debt defaults become a big problem. At some point, the apparently high value of homes (and of stocks) has no equivalent in the real world of goods and services produced. For example, a person can afford a car, but because of the semiconductor chip shortage, such a car of the type desired can no longer be made.

          AI depends on stored energy. It also depends on semiconductor chips. What we lose is the ability to do the conversions: lots of intermittent electricity gets us nowhere. Show me a semiconductor chip made of intermittent electricity. It requires rare earth minerals, nearly always processed in China. We lose our international trade system. We lose our ability to make the machines that are used in semiconductor factories.

        • It is good that your generation is the last generation who thinks like that.

          AI can’t live forever because of the materials. The energy might be forever but the materials where they reside on are perishable quite fast. Of course Elon’s mythic wonder boys might fix it, in the same way the readers of Arabian Nights believed in the Genies.

          Sure, the growth will occur, but it won’t be anything like th Zim dollar where a 100 trillion bill bought three eggs.

          Your wonder boys will make Elon a God, who will ‘ascend to the Heavens” when he gets old, and your descendants will worship him.

      • Duncan Idaho says:

        We will get back to our historical population of 1-5 million, with a near extinction 65,000 years ago.
        Of course, we had an intact ecosystem then, so extinction is a greater probability.
        99.9% of all species that have arisen are now extinct.

  20. Harry McGibbs says:

    “The coming collapse of the developing world – Covid has pushed vast swathes of humanity to the brink of extreme poverty…

    “Even before the pandemic, many economies in the developing world were experiencing difficulty accessing world credit markets, and that access will likely now worsen.

    “Vaccination apartheid will exacerbate pre-existing problems. For example, according to 2019 data from the World Bank, youth unemployment was approaching 25 per cent in Turkey, India and Iran. In South Africa, it was over 55 per cent. Already high levels of youth unemployment will become much higher…”

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2021/07/23/the-coming-collapse-of-the-developing-world/

    • Not enough energy consumption means that there cannot be enough of today’s types of jobs. Maybe digging in the dirt with a stick to try to cultivate plants, but not much more available without energy.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Better still… find a Doomie Prepper… put him in chains… and force him to scratch in the dirt with a stick… on your behalf

  21. Harry McGibbs says:

    “The public water system in Lebanon is “on life support” and could collapse at any moment, putting 71 per cent of the population, or more than four million people, at immediate risk of losing access to safe supply, the UN Children’s Fund, UNICEF, warned on Friday.

    “Most water pumping will gradually cease in the next four to six weeks, the agency estimated, due to the escalating economic crisis and shortages in funding and supplies, such as chlorine and spare parts.”

    https://news.un.org/en/story/2021/07/1096312

  22. Bei Dawei says:

    So, Taiwan had a Covid spike a couple of months ago–from the low double digits to the low five digits (total active cases)–and went into what is called a “soft lockdown” (masks required outdoors / in public places, limits on gatherings, online teaching). The current number of active Covid cases has declined to under 1000, and next week various restrictions will be lifted.

    What lessons do we learn from this? Am I right in concluding that mask requirements and soft lockdowns are a reasonable strategy that other countries ought to emulate?

    The number of people getting vaxxed here has been rising very quickly–partly because they’ve been jolted out of complacency, partly because we’re finally getting reasonable supplies of vaccines. (So far it’s mainly been AZ, with more Moderna on the way.) What medical consequences do the anti-vaxxers predict based on this trend?

    For those who regard Covid-19 and/or its vaccines as some kind of hoax, can you explain why the Taiwan government (a) didn’t seem to get much Covid-19 for more than a year, (b) suddenly got some, then (c) got it under control? If they were in on the conspiracy, one would expect them to follow the pattern set by other countries, no? But if they were not in on the conspiracy, then why do we have any Covid-19 at all? Wouldn’t they see through the ruse?

    • CTG says:

      Personally, I don’t trust any data coming out from any government sources, be it cases or anything else. I don’t trust the mainstream media completely and anything on alternative media, I am putting in a lot of thoughts on how true they are reporting.

      So, to answer your questions on Taiwan, can the data be trusted since this ‘special disease” can only be detected by the unreliable PCR? This is not a disease where people having it will get nosebleeds, collapse and die on the roadside. Since 70-80% of those infected are asymptomatic and does not even know they get it, how can one reliably know what is being churned out by the government? Malice or negligent? Only God knows. Data being published is always convenient to the prevailing political or bureaucratic apparatus.

      • Bei Dawei says:

        Well, we’ve also had almost 800 deaths (which is high), which suggests that the disease is real, but I suppose I am relying on government figures.

      • Bei Dawei says:

        PS. What do you suppose Taiwan’s government is trying to accomplish with the figures they *do* publish? (Going along with your assumption that they are not genuine.)

        • CTG says:

          At this point fo time… I doubt all data points. At certain stage… I doubt how real am I. Are there really people that are that dumb? Is it even possible especially in this evolution of “survival of the best”?

          Time and again, in many countries, data are manipulated and presented as real. Can you vouch with your life that the 800 deaths are real?

          • Xabier says:

            The only numbers I am inclined to trust are the voluntary reports on vaccine deaths and injuries.

            Why?

            Simply because they are either completely ignored, minimised or even ridiculed by both the MSM and governments – I find that rather telling.

            If an MSM campaign to disparage someone, or something, is started up, it must be getting close to an inconvenient truth.

            Ditto for aspersions cast on various treatment protocols which seem promisingly effective.

          • Bei Dawei says:

            I can’t think of a reason why the government would lie about this. The proportion of deaths was very low before the spike; now it is high. Low deaths make the government look good; high deaths make it look bad. If the government was willing to fake the figures, you’d think they’d fake them on the low side.

            But let’s suppose they’re in on the conspiracy. Maybe they held out for a year ,then joined Klaus Schwab and Bill Gates in their cabal. Or maybe it was just an issue of vaccine availability. (In real life, China look steps to prevent Taiwan from acquiring vaccines, while Taiwan was trying to create a vaccine of its own.) In that case, why did they allow the Covid numbers to go down recently? Wouldn’t that interfere with the Great Reset?

            • Fast Eddy says:

              hahahaha…. that’s a good one!

              Governments never lie.

            • Bei Dawei says:

              I’m quite prepared to accept the possibility of the government lying (although in this case, there is a lot of scrutiny on it). But can you explain why the numbers they did provide (even if lies) were low, then high, then low again? For the life of me, I can’t think of a plausible motivation, and am left with the conclusion that the numbers are most likely genuine.

            • Mike Roberts says:

              I’m reasonably certain that the numbers that most governments provide are probably what they genuinely do think are accurate. That doesn’t mean that they are accurate and it doesn’t mean all governments try to be accurate.

              Manipulating this kind of information is really counter productive because government can’t then enact policy that might seem reasonable for the numbers. The fact that numbers go up and down suggests that they are probably not intentionally lying. The fact that different countries have very different disease progressions and waves suggests that this isn’t some global scam.

            • The situation isn’t identical everywhere. Climates are different. (Cold weather helps the spread of viruses.) Vitamin D levels are different. Different countries get different variants, which behave differently. There are different customs as well. Putting lots of people together in nursing homes gives the possibility of the disease spreading to many, simultaneously.

            • CTG says:

              Bei Dawei, Mike, et al. There are two major types of people in this world. The first one is “I don’t think the government/people will do it” and the second type is “I don’t trust what is given to me. I need to analyse first”.

              History is repleted with examples of misplaced trust. So I am skepticsl why there are still people who are in the first category.

            • Mike Roberts says:

              Gail wrote:

              The situation isn’t identical everywhere. Climates are different. (Cold weather helps the spread of viruses.) Vitamin D levels are different. Different countries get different variants, which behave differently. There are different customs as well. Putting lots of people together in nursing homes gives the possibility of the disease spreading to many, simultaneously.

              Exactly, and some further reasons why I don’t think that people are being intentionally mislead by most governments.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        When people who a terminal illness test positive for covid .. and die 3 weeks later (without covid symptoms or with)…. and they are labelled a covid death… it is impossible to trust any of the numbers

    • JMS says:

      Beidawei, what does local politics matter, when this scam is global? You’re overthinking.
      Get this: a PCR “positive test” means NOTHING. From this fact, and the practical knowledge that business and politics thrive on lies, everything else can be followed, easy peasy. All it takes is a scrupulous respect for logic, and some courage.

  23. Fast Eddy says:

    KNOCK, KNOCK! BIG BROTHER IS AT YOUR DOOR

    U.S. government officials announced new efforts to push experimental vaccines and censor speech. Door-to-door visits to determine vaccine status, calls for local mandates, and even real time surveillance and censorship of personal text messages are now on the table.

    https://thehighwire.com/videos/knock-knock-big-brother-is-at-your-door/

  24. Fast Eddy says:

    ‘immune escape’ is happening … no Devil C yet but what Bossche said… is happening …

    They discuss the Bossche theory… superb interview

    “ABOUT HALF THE CASES ARE VACCINE FAILURES”

    Dr. Peter McCullough, joins the Highwire again, this time to discuss the serious problem with the efficacy of the #Covid19 vaccines and how mass vaccination is creating this runaway train of a pandemic.

    https://thehighwire.com/videos/about-half-the-cases-are-vaccine-failures/

    • This is a good video. These are my notes:

      “ABOUT HALF THE CASES ARE VACCINE FAILURES”

      Interview with Dr. Peter McCullough begins about 2 minutes after video starts

      Mass vaccination is causing the variants to become prominent; without vaccine, there would be many more small variants, fewer variants with large populations

      Natural immunity to having COVID-19 seems to provide robust, complete, and durable immunity; immunity through vaccination is far inferior. Data from Israel shows this.

      Vaccines were failing to prevent the spread of cases even before Delta became prominent

      Data from Israel and the UK shows that a large share of Delta cases are among the vaccinated. In practice, about 50% of US cases are among the vaccinated. The CDC intentionally under-reports COVID-19 cases among those vaccinated.

      Dr. McCullough doesn’t think that it is likely that a truly terrible variation of COVID will become dominant; he thinks that it is heading toward faster spreading/fewer serious cases. He says we should now close out the vaccine treatment and head toward treating cases as they appear. They are mild enough that early treatment should be sufficient in nearly all cases.

      The recently reported US surge in cases is from a very low baseline of cases.

      Is it weird that we are seeing a surge in the middle of the summer? Mass vaccinations may be allowing the Delta variation spread in hidden cases among those already vaccinated. Gives the example of the airplane of Democratic legislators from Texas who flew to Washington DC and came down with COVID-19.

      Are hospitals starting to do more treatment? Hospital-based doctors are very slow in starting new treatments, such as Ivemectin. There are quite a few independent doctors who know about early treatment, and citizens are seeking them out.

      Dr. McCullough observes that in practically all cases in which children have died with COVID-19, the child had a serious underlying illness.

      Plans to go to door to door and business mandates with vaccines will lead to conflict. People should be speaking out now against those making plans. Otherwise, leaders believe vaccination of all is what citizens demand. Dr. McCullough believes that people don’t speak out because of fear of rep

  25. Fast Eddy says:

    Eve: the off-grid life of a nine-year-old climate activist

    Eve is the intimate story of a nine-year-old girl living in Tinkers Bubble, one of the oldest off-grid communities in the UK. A fledgling environmental activist, we follow her as she navigates her way back into traditional schooling and stands up for what she passionately believes in: the environment

    https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x81pcg1

    Would it not be cool to be a fly on the wall as the Bad Guys enter the community — rape the women … beat the men to death … then fry up Eve for dinner….

    The great thing is with all that blood and guts splatter… you could then drop your eggs knowing the maggots will have plenty to eat….

    WHATEVER happened in Sweden with its policy of no masks and no lockdowns ?

    In his latest brilliant video, Ivor Cummins invites us to see. Succinct and logical as ever, it is another must-watch. After making a statement about the official and therefore uncensorable data his analysis draws on – all the links to his evidence are provided – he asks the simple question: Who got the science correct? Ferguson and his big outfit at Imperial College, massively funded by Gates and Big Pharma interests? Or Anders Tegnell, Sweden’s chief epidemiologist, who said he could be judged around this time in 2021? The answer is Sweden, which followed the World Health Organisation’s 2019 pandemic guidelines that Britain threw in the bin.

    Cummins goes on to show the real-world risk of death from Covid to be extremely small for those with PCR positive tests and infinitesimal for the rest. Taking Ireland as an example, he shows there is no evidence of excess deaths for the year 2020 and that Covid deaths simply make up a chunk of the normal deaths that would be expected anyway.

    You can watch the video here.

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/is-this-why-the-msm-dont-mention-sweden-any-more/

  26. Fast Eddy says:

    Well this is interesting … trying to search for this (Twitter removed it)

    “Why is Jeremy Farrar targeting Sunetra Gupta?” – Prof Martin Kulldorff, one of the three original signatories of the Great Barrington Declaration, comes to the defence of Prof Sunetra Gupta, who has been blamed for the delay to the second lockdown by Jeremy Farrar. See his Twitter thread here.

    Search: Jeremy Farrar targeting Sunetra Gupta…. never seen this happen before:

    403. That’s an error.

    Your client does not have permission to get URL /search?q=Jeremy+Farrar+and+Sunetra+Gupta&rlz=1C1CHBF_enNZ946NZ946&oq=Jeremy+Farrar++and+Sunetra+Gupta&aqs=chrome..69i57.7087j0j9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 from this server. That’s all we know.

  27. Fast Eddy says:

    ‘It’s making me question my future’: NFL star DeAndre Hopkins hints he might RETIRE after league announces strict vaccine plans

    Several big-name NFL superstars have voiced their opposition to league plans to harshly penalize players who may be responsible for Covid-19 outbreaks in their team, which could lead to forfeited games and players not being paid.

    Arizona Cardinals receiver DeAndre Hopkins, considered by many to be among the best players in the NFL, was among those who appeared to vociferously oppose league plans announced Thursday which, officials claims, will help safeguard teams and the league itself from Covid-19.

    Last year’s NFL season was conducted in a haze of coronavirus confusion, with dozens of players testing positive for the virus throughout the course of the season.

    That led to one team, the Denver Broncos, being forced to play a game without a recognized quarterback after their starting player and his backups were deemed close contacts to a confirmed case.

    https://www.rt.com/sport/530051-deandre-hopkins-nfl-covid-coronavirus-vaccine/

    He’s pulled down nearly $40M in his career… hopefully he didn’t blow the lot… https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/arizona-cardinals/deandre-hopkins-12307/cash-earnings/

    • Rodster says:

      The Minnesota Vikings parted ways with a great veteran Coach who refused to be vaccinated. NFL player Cole Beasley is also refusing vaccination.

    • Ed says:

      It makes good theater to keep the herd scared.

  28. Fast Eddy says:

    One group of demonstrators threw objects at mounted police in Sydney

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-57952516

    So they have about the same number of daily infections as Toronto area… Toronto is not locked down now – why does Toronto not have thousands of infections?

  29. Fast Eddy says:

    Hilarious… or sinister?

    When Devil Covid arrives… guess who will be blamed.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jul/23/kay-ivey-republican-blame-unvaccinated-covid-cases

  30. Fast Eddy says:

    There follows a guest post by the academic economist who wrote a short post a few days ago about the apparent failure of the vaccine roll-out to reduce the number of over-60s being admitted to hospital with COVID-19 as a percentage of the number of over-60s testing positive rate. It generated a lively discussion in the comments so I asked the author to expand on it.

    In the following short essay, I am going to examine whether the vaccines are preventing hospitalisations. We already know that the vaccines are not proving very effective at suppressing cases – which appear to be soaring in many countries, and notably the United Kingdom, in spite of the successful vaccine roll out and even though we are in summer and last summer cases remained suppressed. Some of us expected this to happen. The vaccine trials were rushed, the studies were of dubious quality, and they were released by drug companies who had a vested commercial interest in claiming high efficacy for the vaccines.

    In addition to this, it should be obvious to anyone who gives it any thought that vaccines do not suppress highly contagious respiratory illnesses; more than half of Americans get flu shots every year, yet the United States has a flu season that is every bit as bad as Europe – which does not have high rates of annual flu vaccinations. A cynic might say that the flu vaccine business is much like the cosmetic business: a hustle by pharmaceutical companies to sell medicine to people who are not ill thereby massively expanding their market.

    https://dailysceptic.org/2021/07/23/are-the-vaccines-reducing-hospitalisations/

    Mass infection prevention and mass vaccination with leaky Covid-19 vaccines in the midst of the pandemic can only breed highly infectious variants.

    https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/

    The beginning… of the END of … humans 🙂

    Isn’t this .. exquisite?

    • Highly infectious variants tend not to be very virulent. If they are very virulent, they tend to make the hosts too sick to go out and infect others.

      Delta seems to becoming dominant in the US. It spreads easily but is not very virulent.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        and….. the Injection does not stop Delta… so the fools Injected the Experiment for nothing!

    • Ed says:

      Sadly it could be no devil covid only heavy duty flu covid. Covid kills maybe 1/1000 (maybe far fewer with honest data) and the 1000 variants/escapes that are “highly infectious” may kill 2/1000 and all will be infected and immune and it ends except for cover their as_s closing propaganda.

  31. Fast Eddy says:

    ringy dingy normdunc… ringy dingy….

    Covid hospital admissions triple in over-60s — and nearly half of patients fully vaccinated

    THE number of over-60s needing hospital treatment for Covid has tripled in the past month, with admissions in the over-80s now outnumbering any other patient age group.

    The latest data from Public Health Scotland also indicates that there were nearly as many admissions in fully vaccinated patients as unvaccinated patients last week, reflecting the high prevalence of the virus in the community and the Delta variant’s ability to cause breakthrough infections.

    https://www.heraldscotland.com/resources/images/12819446.png

    https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/19458569.covid-hospital-admissions-triple-over-60s—-nearly-half-patients-fully-vaccinated/

    • Xabier says:

      The over-60′ s in the UK greedily, even joyfully lined up to get injected – all those I know did so and thought Xmas had come – and betrayed the rest of us by doing so; so may they reap the consequences of their naivety, lack of good sense and cowardice.

      They all repeated to me the same phrase like parrots; ‘ But Covid is such a terrible,terrible way to die!’

      Well done, BBC, perfect brainwashing.

      Let’s see how this going to be spun:

      ‘We will only be safe when every baby is vaccinated!’ ‘Unvaccinated under permanent house arrest!’ ?

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Why are the Injected insisting that we all get Injected…. they are already safe … so surely they’d want to exercise some Shadenfroyd when we die?

        They could have a reality TV show featuring such people … CovIDIOTS could visit them in the hospital and laugh at them … play violins… and such…

        Could it be because… OH NO!

        https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/19458569.covid-hospital-admissions-triple-over-60s—-nearly-half-patients-fully-vaccinated/

        But even that makes no sense… because it demonstrates the injection is useless… they are not protected…

        It is truly a sea of stuuuupidity that surrounds us

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Apparently the US is stalled at less than 60%… I am hopeful that they are the ones to take a stand on this … because only they have the means to take a meaningful stand…

        Other countries have had their teeth filed down … pity the French don’t have sharp teeth…

        If the US stands then it becomes more difficult to force everyone.

        Hopefully these are idle threats aimed at convincing some fence sitters to get the Injection …

        • I know you will never be a fence sitter

          it would inhibit your means of spreading the output of your 1000 horsepower

        • Ed says:

          I point out again states rights are saving the US. If not for Texas and Florida the US would be as bad as the four eyes.

  32. Fast Eddy says:

    Some good points here

    The Tokyo Olympics prompted the latest furor over transgender participation in women’s sports. It came when New Zealand named a transgender woman (above) to its weightlifting team. This athlete’s participation raises questions far beyond this Olympics or that particular sport.

    The same questions arise whenever a transgender person competes at any level, from high school to world-class. When the winner takes the victory stand, biological women can’t help but wonder if they were treated fairly. Transgender athletes respond, pointedly, that it would be unfair to exclude them. “She’s a woman,” they say. “This is a woman’s event. So she should compete.”

    The problem with this debate is that it raises other fundamental questions: Should we have women’s sports at all? Why? What is the rationale—and how compelling is it?

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2021/07/22/a_gold_medal_question_should_womens_sports_even_exist_146121.html

  33. MG says:

    We could define the coronavirus as the damage caused to the power cables and the cooling system of the processor which is represented by the human brain.

  34. davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

    Free West Media

    In Cape Cod, a geographic cape extending into the Atlantic Ocean in Massachusetts, the vaccinated are falling ill with Covid-19. The American town with one of the highest vaccination rates in the state, now has the highest rate of new cases.

    An official told ABC News on Monday that the “vast majority” of the 132 Covid-19 cases were among vaccinated individuals.

    At least 33 people in a nursing home in Yarmouth on Cape Cod have tested positive for SARS-Cov-2. Most of the residents that tested positive were vaccinated, reported the Boston Globe. Health authorities “working closely with the CDC” tried to minimize the outbreak while local outlets like the Cape Cod Times blamed unvaccinated people.

    According to the Boston Globe, “at least 35 Covid-19 cases in Boston residents have been traced back to Provincetown” and the newspaper reported that the overwhelming majority of those had been fully vaccinated. A fully vaccinated Boston resident who had fallen ill while in Provincetown recently, told the Globe: “For two days, I was the sickest I’ve ever been in my life.” The same resident nevertheless hailed the initiation of vaccine passports.

    ABC News meanwhile downplayed the outbreak on Cape Cod among the fully vaccinated, but another individual who had fallen ill, admitted that “it’s definitely not what I expected being fully vaccinated”.

    Dr. Janet Whelan, a member of the Provincetown Board of Health, confirmed that the vaccinated could be spreading the Coronavirus: “The most interesting thing to me about this cluster of cases is so many of the people infected were vaccinated, which sort of means that a lot of the people that are vaccinated who are exposed to it may feel safe, but may also transmit it to others.” ABC News however dismissed the spread as being “not a major concern”.

    Officials in Cape Cod’s Provincetown has issued a new mask rule for all the unvaccinated, including children under the age of 12. Unvaccinated people will be required to wear masks both outdoors in crowded areas as well as in all public indoor spaces, despite the fact that vaccinated people make up most of the active cases in the town.

  35. MG says:

    How could we define the human habitat?

    Is it a forest, a savannah or grassland or a desert?

    No, neither of the abovementioned.

    The human habitat is characterized by the presence of the heat regulating devices like fire, clothes, blanket, shelter and the clean water as the coolant.

    The human brain is like a powerful processor of the computer and the human body is the radiator of this processor.

    The food supply is the energy for this processor.

    The components of the human habitat are rather dispersed in the nature. It takes energy to concentrate them in one place and create the human habitat.

    That is why the early centres of the civilization were situated by the large rivers. Here the human brains provided the highest output.

    The biggest catastrophy of today is not the coronavirus, but the shortage of the chips. The shortage of the chips is the current limit of the existence of the human habitats.

    It was this technology shortage that caused the fall of the Soviet bloc vis a via a harder to get oil and other energy.

    Leveraging the computing capacity of the human brain is inevitable for the growth of the human species.

    The cryptocurrency scam combined both elements: energy consumption for heat regulation of the brain and the computing power need to get the energy.

    It was a real genius who invented the cryptocurrency scam.

    • These are very good points with profound implications.
      In similar vein this overall concept was not missed by ancient mysticism circles millennia ago and nowadays by trans humanists in general sense.. Essentially, claiming observing the souls are beamed / downloaded to their bodies on this planet for whatever reason unknown and or not openly disclosed..

      So, basically, we are either some sort of experimental lab or sanctuary / playground for higher powers. Similarly, how humans (on their current lower level of understanding) developed simulation games-worlds / software where you have both autonomous players and just the other robotic behavior participants all mingling around in the given space – realm.

    • Excellent points!

      • human beings evolved where there was no need of external energy support beyond food input, possibly only veg—we don’t know

        i.e. to the N S of equatorial regions, 5 m years ago, give or take.

        But we were maybe too successful as a species, so we had to move out of our ‘birth region’, and head north and spread out. To find more space.

        we could only do that by appropriating the resource base of other animals, as food and clothing, (their calories were added to ours)
        adding fire made us the most dangerous species on the planet.

        a million generations has taught most other animals to run and hide from us.

        A herd of antelope will graze contentedly in sight of sleeping lions. The lions only kill when the need to… we are different. Animals know that. Birds will forage around the feet of a cow or pig. When they see a human, they fly away.

        we took all habitats for ourselves, denying it to other species who have as much right to it as we do. No other species has done that.

        • Good points!

        • MG says:

          “we took all habitats for ourselves, denying it to other species who have as much right to it as we do. No other species has done that.” – this is a sad truth of the humans: the existence of the human habitats requires constant energy inputs.

          The humans often forget that many human habitats were created just temporarily for mining purposes, for agriculture that requires a lot of inputs, for production of goods that are trendy etc.

          Maintaining these human habitats when their original purpose disappeared and there is no new purpose is a complete energy sink.

        • MG says:

          The humans could not conquer the plants in the tropical regions that is why they moved to S and N of the equator.

          The plants in the wet and hot regions constituted the species that could not be destroyed by fire or other means.

          No permanent civilization could not be created in these regions.

          The wet and hot climate is an enemy of the humans. Similarly as the cold regions. These regions simply overcome the thermoregulation ability of the humans, the humans living in these regions must spend a lot of energy to counteract the negative aspects of these regions. The cold regions are not so bad, as you can add the heat only where needed (i. e. in homes), no plant enemies.

          • I’m afraid you are spectacularly wrong

            Take a globe, draw line around the equator. Now get a list of all great centres of civilisation–Anghor Wat, The Aztecs, Inca and so on. You will find many of them were constructed in impossible jungle regions on either side of that line

            the accounts of the first Spanish explorers to enter the Amazon tell of vast cultivated areas with numerous settlements everywhere

            the next big incursion was 50 years of more later, by that time European diseases had decimated the natives and the jungle had reclaimed the land

            • MG says:

              The population in the area of Amazon was already in decline when the Spanish explorers came.

              https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2021-05/uor-pcc052421.php

              “Climate change impacts felt in the Amazon rainforest prior to the arrival of European settlers after 1492 may have meant populations of indigenous people were already in decline before the ‘Great Dying’, new research has suggested.”

              “Analysis of fossilised pollen and charcoal revealed that many previously deforested lands have been recovering for over 800 years, rather than the 400 years previously supposed, indicating a pre-European population decline. The research team is now looking to assess the drivers and mechanisms of this population drop-off.”

              “This research also has implications for atmospheric and biosphere science. It was previously believed that the indigenous population collapse in Amazonia following European Contact, and subsequent reforestation, led to the sequestration of so much carbon dioxide that global atmospheric CO2 levels decreased markedly, an event known as the ‘Orbis Spike’. Yet the team found no evidence that the Orbis Spike was caused by Amazonian reforestation.”

            • the amazon is questionable I agree—a lot of variables there

              and the other places I mentioned?

            • My first comment was made from memory–I thought I might have made a mistake (it happens.) hence my follow on reply

              thinking after that—I thought I’d check it out.

              Quote:

              The premier cause of the massive reduction in population was disease. Smallpox was the first introduced malady to ravage the indigenous peoples. Subsequent epidemics of typhus, influenza and smallpox again in the 1500 and 1600s essentially erased all traces of living Incan culture. Dobyns, the first social scientist to trace the origins of the New World inhabitants’ demise, estimated that prior to European contact, the Western Hemisphere supported between 90 and 112 million people. To put this already large figure into clearer perspective, Dobyns’ estimate for the Americas’ population in the late 1400s surpassed that of Europe‘s for the same period.

              The above was from:
              https://news.mongabay.com/2005/10/pre-columbian-amazon-supported-millions-of-people/

              this is an alternative:
              https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-03510-7

            • Fast Eddy says:

              norm… grandkids.. you ok with them getting the Clot Shot? Maybe between your weight lifting training you can drive them to the Clinic and have Mengele do his Dirty Work on them?

              You do want them to Stay Safe (like you and dunc and mike) don’t you norm????

              Perhaps you can find a donut shop that is giving away freebies for the newly injected… or lollies for the toddlers…. I would hope you don’t exploit this to get free lap dances…

            • stop trying to put clever words together Eddy–you’re not very good at it and you make yourself look foolish.

              Wordball requires expertise. It also needs a well matched opponent to make a good game. Players recognise the skill of each other.

              Comic delivery requires one line to feed the next, try to absorb that little detail–it works. Try to figure it out.

              I take it your caps lock has jammed through overuse?

            • repetition

              the hallmark of an empty speech balloon

        • doomphd says:

          they know us for the killers that we are.

  36. Slow Paul says:

    When reading old literature (e.g. stoics, bible and such), it strikes me that we haven’t really come all that far over the past couple of millenia. Sure, we’ve invented a lot of gizmos, but the wisdom, the art of writing and the level of thinking has not evolved much.

    Not that it should have, but it makes one wonder how much progress really could be made on our current predicaments, which have a time frame of decades.

  37. Fast Eddy says:

    As freedom advocates prepare to convene in more than 180 cities around the world tomorrow for Worldwide Rallies for Freedom, CHD condemns in advance plans by infiltrators to incite violence at what are intended to be peaceful demonstrations.

    https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/childrens-health-defense-condemns-violence-worldwide-freedom-demonstrations/

    At some point the the PR Team is likely to incite violence … by inserting shi t disturbers… the CovIDIOTS will cheer as the anti-terrorist units are deployed and the tear gas fired ….

    ‘Burn those witches burn them… stone them!!!’ will be the chants…

    Exciting times ahead?

    One has to wonder if the PR Team is wary of the US situation ….and will remain off the lockdown pedal … because of all those wepppons?

    Mass push back can be contained — even if weppponized… but obviously that sort of situation could trigger The Collapse….

  38. Hubbs says:

    Sorry to be so blunt but I am royally F-ing pissed with Wells Fargo Bank and I guess I might as well throw Vanguard in there too. Vanguard closed the money market treasury fund against which I had been writing and now I am having to
    stand on my head to try to transfer to another account within Vanguard from which I can write checks! They are almost obscuring this. I still do not have the replacement check writing service. It is tantamount to freezing your money.- Cyprus or Greece style. I had finally made a transfer from Vanguard to Wells Fargo of a fairly large sum of money in anticipation of having to pay my daughter’s entire first year of college tuition ( and that is a whole other issue of usury and overcharging) at NC State but it appears I only have to pay per semester. Even still, Wells Fargo has both a daily and monthly withdrawal limit on your checking account. When I finally got ahold of the representative, she informed me there was a $5,000 daily limit but hedged upon the monthly limit.

    Of course it was no problem for me to transfer a large sum of money into my Wells Fargo checking account but like Hotel California, at Hotel Wells Fargo, your money can check in anytime you want but it can never leave! In order to make a $10,438.00 transfer to the bursar of North Carolina State by the internet ( hardly a suspicious activity reportable event) , I now have to make an appointment with a Wells Fargo agent at the bank to draft this check. This is. Or about a suspicious activity, it is closing the financial trap around all of us. It gets worse. I can’t get an appointment with any of these bank agents for 10 days so they are effectively freezing your account even as Wells Fargo is shutting down personal lines of credit and and has been caught red handed in repeated acts of banking fraud, criminal activity and money laundering. No one goes to jail and the fines, effectively paid by shareholders, are a pittance compared to the heist. A criminal service fee or commission. I am convinced that when the monetary credit crisis descends upon us, our money, whether stocks locked away in the DTCC stock clearing exchange, your checking accounts, money market accounts etc. will all be frozen for days or weeks and you’ll never be able to get your money. Here I have been banking with Wells Fargo for 25 years – including Wachovia before they were acquired. I am an idiot for doing business with Wells Fargo- and the other big banks are just as corrupt. A word to the wise from a fool.

    • I think you are right. It will be increasingly difficult to get the money out of an account, after you put it in. And money market accounts can be cut off.

      People often ask me if they will lose their money through inflation. I say, not necessarily. There are other ways to lose the money. The government may not let you get out what you put in. Or they may impose a very low maximum extract amount per day.

      People have credits with airlines and travel agencies as well. I know that we paid a travel company for the land portion of a vacation in Greece in 2020. We couldn’t get our money back, but we could put it toward another trip.

      We looked into the possibility of a trip this year, but there were too many complications to be able to use it this year. If the company is still in business, we can apply the credit toward any trip leaving before May 31, 2022, so we have a little time left. But what are the chances that the travel company will be in business? Will travel conditions be any better next year than this year? (My husband will be teaching during the school year, but that ends before May 31, 2022. If we use it, we will likely use it in May 2022.)

        • Fast Eddy says:

          This is why it is not a bad idea to keep cash and PM on hand…. although I cannot see this happening in the core countries (NZ is not a core country)…. because it would collapse demand for goods and services.

          We went to Argentina a few years ago … and found a similar situation … the most we could withdraw was $200 (with a daily limit of $400?) if I recall… and even that was not possible because most of the time the machines were empty… and they kept 10% commission…. we were only able to survive because our hotel allowed us to take cash advances….

          Following protests that started in 2019 because of the financial crisis, banks tightened limits on foreign currency withdrawals to $200 – $300 per week. And when the coronavirus pandemic began, cash withdrawal from those accounts were completely halted and a limit was set on local currency.

          While banks, which face liquidity problems due to the crisis, kept deposits of Lebanese for nearly one-and-a-half years on grounds of preventing an outflow of capital, allegations that billions of dollars were transferred abroad by administrators caused an uproar.

          Lebanese economists told Anadolu Agency that banks gave money belonging to customers to the Central Bank and in turn offered the deposits as loans to the state that is incapable of paying its debts.

      • Ed says:

        The oh so dry humor of Norway

        “People often ask me if they will lose their money through inflation. I say, not necessarily. There are other ways to lose the money.”

    • Xabier says:

      That is exactly what will happen: even if not ‘bailed-in’ ie stolen, funds will be effectively inaccessible or only grudgingly released.

      Wait until you are on UBI paid in CB digital dollars, in a few years or so -what fun awaits!

    • JesseJames says:

      My wife had the same problem with Wells Fargo. Terminate your account with them now. Go to a smaller community bank that is not national. Quit dealing with TBTF banks.

  39. The Guardian has an article up:

    Great Britain faces rising risk of winter blackouts, system operator warns

    Coal plants and nuclear reactors shut down while energy demand expected to rise after Covid restrictions

    Great Britain faces its greatest risk of blackouts for six years this winter as old coal plants and nuclear reactors shut down and energy demand rises as the economy emerges from Covid-19 restrictions. . .

    It [the system operator] said that in some scenarios the “margin” of forecast electricity supplies might exceed demand by 5.3%, the tightest margin recorded since the winter of 2015-2016, when National Grid was forced to ask businesses to reduce their electricity usage to keep the lights on after a spate of breakdowns at coal plants. . .

    The system operator issued a string of official warnings that electricity supplies were under pressure last year, despite a 3-4% slump in energy demand as people stayed away from offices, pubs and restaurants during the Covid-19 pandemic.

    It is a strange world we live in. People are being encouraged to drive electric cars when it is not clear that the UK (and some other places) can keep the lights on without the additional load on the system.

    • its basically a matter of not just the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing,

      but one hand being in a state of denial that the other hand exists

      • State of denial is the big issue, I expect.

        It would seem like people would start getting worried about electricity supply. Maybe the idea behind the government telling people to use electric vehicles is to assure people that electricity will be around forever.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      https://barbaragregorich.files.wordpress.com/2020/01/foreshadowing.png

      (zero energy – green world … ahead)

      • A Green World is rather dark, however, at times when electricity is not available. Cold, too.

        • Tim Groves says:

          Clean renewable green energy has just got to work out IF we are to survive.

          The plan in Japan was to go to about half fossil fuels, a quarter nuclear and a quarter clean renewable green energy by 2030.

          And there are establishment voices, including the Asahi Shimbun (Japan’s equivalent of the Guardian) asking why we can’t just shut down nuclear completely as “the citizens distrust it”.

          According to IEA, fossil fuels accounted for 88% of Japan’s total primary energy supply in 2019.

          However, there have been developments as Reuters reported last week:

          “The industry ministry’s policy draft released on Wednesday says renewables should account for 36-38% of power supplies in 2030, double the level of 18% in the financial year to March 2020. The earlier target was for renewables to contribute 22-24% of electricity in 2030.

          The use of coal, the dirtiest fossil fuel, will be reduced to 19% from 26% under the new plan.

          Gas, which comes to Japan in the form of imported liquefied natural gas, will make up most of the rest of the fossil fuel portion of the target energy mix, which was set at 41%, down from 56%.

          Japan’s nuclear target was left unchanged at 20-22%. New fuels like hydrogen and ammonia will account for about 1% of the electricity mix in 2030, the draft said.”

          I would much prefer 50% nuclear, 25% nat gas, and 25% renewables, as this would be much cheaper, much more stable, and better for the country as a whole.

          Up until 2011, Japan was generating 30% of electricity from its reactors and this was expected to increase to at least 40% by 2017 and to 50% by 2030. Nuclear’s image has suffered greatly in the wake of the Fukushima incident/accident/disaster/catastrophe (take your pick)—which I must remind people because many assume it was a planet-wrecking event—killed nobody and was made ten times worse by the way it was handled, both evacuation-wise and PR wise.

          Indeed, the abandonment of the contaminated zone around the power plant has created a de facto nature reserve that has done far more good for the environment than putting up any number of wind turbines and solar panels ever could. So there! (makes hand gesture touching thumb to nose and waving fingers in the general direction of anti-nuclear and pro-renewables people everywhere)

    • Alex says:

      “Energy demand expected to rise after Covid restrictions”

      There are still many unused letters of the Greek alphabet.

  40. Sam says:

    The FED definitely thinks it can monotize the debt..they are going all in. It’s all Monopoly money now. I really respect Lacy Hunt ; I think in the end he will be the one to call it game over

    https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/lacy-hunt-debt-and-friedmans-famous-quote-regarding-inflation-money

    • How to measure all of this monopoly money is a difficult question to answer. I can’t repeat all of the points in this article. One point he talks about repeatedly is diminishing returns to added debt, especially when debt levels are already high.

      Another point he makes is that if the additional debt is going into government loans (federal, state, or local) instead of other debt, its productivity is lower than otherwise. The way I would think of this issue is the fact that fossil fuel resources are limited. They likely need to be directed toward sectors that businesses consider profitable rather than government “pie in the sky” activities.

      • Artleads says:

        “The way I would think of this issue is the fact that fossil fuel resources are limited. They likely need to be directed toward sectors that businesses consider profitable rather than government “pie in the sky” activities.”

        I don’t understand profit as well as I understand stabilization. It therefore seemed that ernabling the poorest third or so to become stable through housing and training, enabling them to contribute to taxes, would serve a similar purpose to profits?

        • Without enough energy supply, we lose jobs that pay a reasonable wage for people. Even with training, jobs that pay well just aren’t there, even if you try to train people. A lot of people have gone from Middle Class to poor, because their jobs disappeared.

          I don’t think training fixes this problem. There are too many people competing in low wage countries for these jobs. Globalization and all of the growth in technology has made a terrible situation for a huge share of the population–there simply aren’t enough jobs that pay reasonably well.

          Student loans have added to the problems for these young people. They take courses, thinking that this will help the get better paying jobs, but it just leaves them with a lot of debt to pay back. Or the take technical training, and then they find the technology has changed. The businesses only want young workers who have been trained in the new technology.

          • Artleads says:

            Ouch! The third-world place I’m trying to think through has no economic choice but crime. College isn’t even a thought.

            • Artleads says:

              I’ve seen many third-world men just sit around all day. Somehow they keep up. But that was a good 50 years ago!

          • Artleads says:

            I’ve never understood or had the slightest interest in money. Fortunately for me, my basic needs were always met, and I have to thank the money world for that. Because I didn’t grow up dirt poor, being without money at times is like a game, not a badge of shame. But conforming to a middle class lifestyle is in no way inspiring for me. I could live in a cardboard box, and be quite surprised that my peers didn’t consider it. admirable, even cool. Beyond that, extensive art training allows me to see every dented, rusty thing as chic.

            So although I benefit from the mainstream economic system, that system does not need me, and has done fine taking care of itself till now. Where I might be more useful is in dealing with the very poor. In trying to bring some sense of chic, some sense of planning to poor areas, using resources available in those areas (or that a very small amount of added money can bring to those areas) I find interesting work to do. And if current conditions are driving the middle class into the realms of the poor, why is it not sensible to improve the realms of the poor through better design and use of the resources already available there? The better the conditions in the realm of the poor, the less shock and trauma there will be for the newly poor middle class when they land there.

            I’m saying that an economic sub system where poor people do a bit better than they otherwise might could be a viable stabilization asset for the entire society. So it won’t have any effect on the mainstream economic system, but it will be good enough to reduce desperation and crime. It will be good enough to reduce strain on the mainstream to incarcerate, warehouse, exterminate, or otherwise deal with the very poor. In such a scenario, I believe it’s possible for people (in the realm of the poor) to be reasonably content with non coerced, well planned employment that earns them very little money.

            • the bottom line is that your living environment must somehow supply you with about 2000 cal a day, to replace energy output, and a litre or so of clean water to replace fluid loss.

              Nature doesn’t care how this happens, and you are free to be dismissive about how it comes about, but if it doesn’t happen, you die,

              It really is that clear cut.

              Moving on from that, you must also extract from your environment a shelter of some kind. Unless you live in the warm forest belt of the planet. Which most of us do not

              In the absence of a convenient cave, you have 2 choices:

              Convert the calorific energy in a tree to build it directly.

              or use that same energy to fire bricks and build it that way.

              All this draws energy from the living environment. If there’s too much drain on that environment then we must of necessity begin to die off until a balance of some kind is restored.

            • Artleads says:

              I don’t think you understood my point. People are living in squalor under the overpass right now as we speak. And they can do better within available means. We don’t require an entire history of living forms to get that.

            • they need employment to produce wages

              with wages they can buy food and homes

              trouble is, it isn’t possible to have paid employment unless the means exists to convert one energy form into another.

              if robots do the ’employment/conversion part, (here or in Asia somewhere) then the wages part of the equation is removed.

              which is why people live under bridges and in cars.

              all the shiny things we want get cheaper

              but ultimately no one will be able to afford them.

              Interesting economic conundrum isn’t it.

            • Ed says:

              Norm, I have to disagree they need to work for themselves not for wages. For example they would have more food from $1 of rice that they cook rather than $1 at burger king. This does require they have a place to cook and store the pot and they have a pot (ownership of the means of production).

            • I worked for myself for most of my working like and loved every minute of it. Its a privilege to get paid for something you do because you want to.

              but I could only have been successful within my very narrow skill window.

              Put a pencil or pen I n my hand and I can make a good living.

              give me a set of gardening tools and I’d starve—literally.

              Most of the homeless people in western society have had the means of employment removed, and with it their means of housing.
              Jobs have gone elsewhere, no longer exist, whatever.

              Having the means to cook is a side issue.

              Having somewhere to grow a years worth of food is the problem, (and produce enough to buy/build a substantial shelter.)

            • Good points!

            • Artleads says:

              “Having somewhere to grow a years worth of food is the problem, (and produce enough to buy/build a substantial shelter.)”

              You’re not saying that the average Jane needs her own plot somewhere to grow a year’s worth of food, are ya? Or might food be grown and distributed in a less individualistic manner?

              And how would a “substantial shelter” be defined? And why would an individual person need to build or buy it. Could they rent? Could it be occupied for exchange? Could it be built by some other means?

            • Hard to say if your comment is made ‘tongue in cheek’—assuming it isn’t:

              doesn’t matter how, but the average human body needs about 2000 cal of energy per day.

              If you don’t get it yourself, then somebody somewhere has to do it for you. That’s how an ‘economy’ functions. You trade what you have ( a skill maybe) in return for the food (and shelter) you need.

              It becomes a web of existence. We all live in it.

              the food production ‘method’ is irrelevant. Food production is seasonal. We can only ignore seasons because we can use fossil fuels to do that. Remove fossil fuels, and we are back to strict seasons again.
              Therefore if you grow food, you must grow a years worth. Or somebody must be willing to do it for you.
              Or you die before the next harvest.

              A building/shelter is a block of embodied energy—a tree, bricks, stone, that’s what it is. There’s no way round that. It is defined as something to help keep you alive in the face of adversity.

              If you can’t construct shelter, you will eventually likely die of exposure.

            • Artleads says:

              Norman, when I try to keep your various statements together, I lose track of whether “you” is meant in the individual or the general sense. True, if somebody produces your food, you’re still accountable for where the food is grown and so forth. Not sure that has to be stressed in the present context, but I could be wrong.

            • I almost always place my meaning in the ‘Collective’ context. Because individuals are all different

              saying ‘one’ does this or that all the time makes me sound like her maj.

              one produces one’s food just sounds pretentious somehow. A difficult word mix to get just right for different situations.

              but in that instance it was meant in both a personal and collective sense, to be applied as is relevant.
              ‘you’ need food, therefore ‘you’ would have to be responsible for getting hold of it, or pay someone else to produce it for you.
              It might as easily have been reworded as ‘I’.

              The situation remains, that ‘we’ can afford to pay other people to do ‘our’ hunting and gathering for us, and avoid the messy business of the slaughterhouse.

              when we can’t we will have to do it ourselves.

    • houtskool says:

      We boarded the monetary plane. Greed with wings, able to fly for a million years. Dinner is served at the table of consequences.

  41. Nate says:

    Despite the circumstances, this overweight doctor, as so many of them are, is one happy camper:

    ““One of the last things they do before they’re intubated is beg me for the vaccine. I hold their hand and tell them that I’m sorry, but it’s too late.”

    https://www.al.com/news/2021/07/im-sorry-but-its-too-late-alabama-doctor-on-treating-unvaccinated-dying-covid-patients.html?fbclid=IwAR14WOZdxhQKM4zwzZSuiDx0qAyxYWJBH3g2tsGeGGp5Alk3Le5EMAiRZAE

    • JMS says:

      Such a sad and moving story, i’m crying heartbroken over the keyboard! Buááááá!!!

      • Fast Eddy says:

        The PR Team has the best soppy writers on the planet… most of them also work for Harlequin Romance on the side.

        It’s amazing how one can immediately smell PR when reading this … but for the CovIDIOTS…. this is the real deal… they read it … their brows furrow… they slowly shake their heads … a tut tut…

        The CovIDIOT wife says … what’s the matter hun…. it’s these Unvaxxed… you want to feel sorry for them … but they are just so duuummmmb….

        Oh yes hun… and they are more than that… they are endangering our little Vermin…. I think I’d have to burn some of the Unvaxxed at the stake if little Vermin was to get sick because of them.

        Well….I have a pile of stones in the garage… and plenty of dry wood

    • Azure Kingfisher says:

      “When Alabama physicians Miles and Brytney Cobia held a gathering with close family members, 8 out of the 11 people who attended the gathering ended up testing positive for the novel coronavirus. Now, the Cobias are warning everyone to ‘wear a mask everywhere,’ including around family and friends, MedPage Today’s Kristina Fiore reports.”

      https://www.advisory.com/en/daily-briefing/2020/07/23/covid-doctors

      8 and 11. Dead man’s hand. Fake story.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        I need to find a gathering like this … I want to catch Covid instead of get Injected.

        Perhaps I need to drive to Christchurch and hang around the quarantine hotels licking the pavement outside the exercise area and hope someone with the infection spit through the fence

        • Xabier says:

          Except the people in the ‘hotels’ aren’t infected with anything in all probability.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            It’s a needle in a hay stack challenge… I’ll have to lick the side walks for weeks…

            Maybe I can put an ad on Craigslist and ask someone with covid to spit in a plastic bag and post it to me?

            • I’ve always assumed that people do that already

            • Ed says:

              Wonderful business for attractive young woman with covid positive test. Kisses $50 a piece, repeat business allowed.

            • Ed says:

              Hudson Valley Natural Vax Clinic our staff are certified 100% infected. Kisses $100 each. Open seven day a week. Providers get $50 a kiss management gets $50 hey there are expenses.

        • JMS says:

          it is extremely difficult to catch a black cat in a dark room, especially if the cat doesn’t exist (as Dr. Martin claims).

  42. Nate says:

    Interesting comment from another site:

    Went to hospital last week. Vancouver General. One of the largest in BC. I broke my ankle. Talked to about 7 people in this one waiting room to keep my mind off the pain. After 5 or 6 hours they came and went. 2 were there because of adverse effects from the vaccine. 1 older asian lady who worked in a doctors office had trembles and bad flu symptoms. After blood tests a doctor came by and basically said it was normal because she had a”strong immune system”. Probably fighting off the vax, I thought.

    The other case was a surly young woman who claimed to have migraines everyday for a week since she got the vax. She also had crones. The docs seemed to to use crones as the main culprit and planned to give her a spinal tap to “drain fluid”. When I left she was weeping into her cell phone to a friend about how afraid she was. So sad.

    Then they tried to “test” me because I never got the jab (like a good little prole). When I was telling a frustrated nurse I didn’t want a nasal swab. At the same time an older east indian nurse taking my blood leaned into me with serious eyes and said “there is another way, ask for the oral test its just saline” she also said she didn’t trust the vaccine and to please not to tell anyone that she told me this info. She said (and I later heard from other interns that it is a painful swab).

    I also poked around for info from the porters moving me around the hospital. Other notes: no-one knew any doctors or nurses that caught covid during the WHOLE pandemic! What luck! The only deaths seemed to in the longterm care wards and were all comorbidities. No one seemed to know how many deaths total. The last nurse I talked to worked in those units and was deeply affected but said he only got the vaccine so he could travel. Out of all that horror and his reason was to travel not afraid of some actual “virus” that was killing the old. He obviously had seen zero young deaths. I got the impression from some others that they weren’t really buying it fully either but at the end of the day a jobs a job. More like a job is a jab. Anyway that is my little report from my little corner of the world. If there were 2 cases I talked to in that first 6 hours I would imagine they are showing up constantly at one of the biggest hospitals in Canada. Just say no.

    • We don’t really know how many bad reactions there are. The self-report data base doesn’t pick up many of them.

      It seems like the more “medical care” we get, the more opportunity there is for something to go wrong. The name for injuries indirectly coming from medical care is “Iatrogenic injury.” Studies indicate its frequency is very high.

      (I used to work with medical malpractice insurance. I ran across this issue quite a bit.)

    • Karl says:

      The timing of Covid and the probable peak of fracked oil DOES seem like a heck of a coincidence. That being said, I got the moderna vaccine so I could travel. No side effects, and I’m typing this poolside from Lahaina, Maui. It was worth it to me. If the illuminati cull me later, well, at least I’ll avoid the cannibals 😂

      • Fast Eddy says:

        There are so few places that are accessible that I want to visit …. and even if I could get there without massive hassles… I might end up struggling to get back to NZ (as so many who are in Australia now are finding out). Travel has a strong taint to it….

        So I will not be Injecting (I don’t think it matters one way or the other — we are all going down) primarily because I do not want to risk ending up dead – or maimed — and joining the ranks of duncnorm with my Horse Power throttled down as this Momentous Occasion approaches…

      • Alex says:

        I don’t know about Moderna, but Sputnik should be okay.

        https://i.redd.it/rx2c9266u6h51.jpg

    • Fast Eddy says:

      I heard in China they test by swabbing your bungholio….

      If I am every forced to be tested I will insist on that one…

      I am the Great Fast Eddio… TC (test covid) for my bunghole… no nose swab only TC… give me TC.. TC for my bunhole…I need rolio for my bung holio rolio for holio…. almighty bunhole… TC…

      https://youtu.be/LHv2dIM3t9I

  43. Yoshua says:

    If there’s an elite preparing to cull us, then first step would be to take away our freedoms and enslave us. Only after they have full control can they start to remove the undesirable.

    “The lockdowns were, functionally, a bear raid on small businesses by large corporations. Show me an S&P 500 company that boarded up. Now ponder how many have expanded customer base by cannibalizing small businesses.” Dave Collum

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Dave Collum – Cornell?

      He puts out a great end of year summary… do you have a link to his covid comments?

  44. Posted just few minutes ago:
    https://consciousnessofsheep.co.uk/2021/07/23/seeing-the-harness-but-not-the-horse/

    Speaking of the 2nd Industrial Revolution offshoots and historical cycles – at the Olympic games opening ceremony mentioned the next venues are scheduled for France (2024) and the US (2028)..

    So, lets place your bets such events (global participation & big budget) will eventually take place again: France (65%) and later US (45%)..

    • Prediction of the end of growth as envisioned by LTG/KPMG for 2020-30, which according to observation-modelling by Tim Morgan already occurred in per capita metrics, hence by ~2030 the overall societal output in total could hardly support such opulent shows. Lets bring another facet, as perhaps discussed already, the long term econ relationship twisted as junk bonds are this year for the first time yielding negative(ier) than “pristine” core countries bonds..

      The world is apparently about to snap into very different setting, some would call it THE collapse, perhaps it’s just transitory de-growth period (incl. various degree of partial collapses, lower pop density, ..) into more direct authoritarian and neo-feudal regime, who knows..

    • I wouldn’t place a bet on many attending the 2024 or 2028 olympics.

      One paragraph I thought was interesting was this one, from the Consciousness of Sheep post:

      “But the biggest inconvenience was the lack of running water. Every drop of water for laundry, cooking, and indoor chamber pots had to be hauled in by the housewife, and wastewater hauled out. The average North Carolina housewife in 1885 had to walk 148 miles per year while carrying 35 tons of water. Coal or wood for open-hearth fires had to be carried in and ashes had to be collected and carried out. There was no more important event that liberated women than the invention of running water and indoor plumbing, which happened in urban America between 1890 and 1930…

      I have heard the same statement made about the lack of running water in Africa adding a whole lot of work for the women and school age girls in Africa.

      Can we keep up our water/sewer system, if we are having serious troubles with fossil fuels? How about fuels for heating homes? If the temperature of the house drops below 32 degrees in winter, it is hard to have running water.

      • That was a great point about the water and the overall ~1890 boundary of truly switching into real surplus existence for many-most..

        Other details were a bit over played like the claim about open fire in dwellings, that’s not *correct (or merely ~anglo specific) because at least for continental Europe for past ~millennium most people from poor to nobility used some basic form of mud-stone or tilled space heaters.. with higher eff. and less smoke pollution burning there various biomass indoors.


        *moreover the situation-safety worsened with early-leaky small sized coal burners of the early – mid 19th century industrial production comparatively speaking to past..

      • Artleads says:

        I’m not working on providing running water. I like scooping water out of a drum. No pipes to worry about. Been trying it in the garden. Have a plan for it in tiny units. The smaller the unit, theoretically, the easier to heat. Never seems cold in my shed when it’s freezing outside.

      • nikoB says:

        Women were strong back then if they carried 35 ton of water.

        • Artleads says:

          Where I live there are a few powerful community organizations. They should tote and deliver the water while trying to maintain the ability to do so by truck.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        So no time for shopping?

      • the flush toilet was invented in elizabethan times

        Great idea, except that it needed an army of skivvies to carry water up to it

        and the outlet was down the castle wall and into the moat.

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