No one will win in the Russia-Ukraine conflict

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Most people have a preconceived notion that there will be a clear winner and loser from any war. In their view, the world economy will go on, much as before, after the war is “won” by one side or the other. In my view, we are basically dealing with a no-win situation. No matter what the outcome, the world economy will be worse off after the fighting stops.

The problem the world economy is up against is the depletion of many kinds of resources simultaneously. This depletion is made worse by rising population, meaning that the resources available need to provide an adequate living for an increasing number of world inhabitants. Because of depletion, the world economy is reaching a point where it can no longer grow in the way it has in the past. Inflation, food shortages and rolling blackouts are likely to become increasing problems in many parts of the world. Eventually, the population is likely to fall.

We are living in a world that is beginning to behave like the players scrambling for seats in a game of musical chairs. In each round of a musical chairs game, one chair is removed from the circle. The players in the game must walk around the outside of the circle. When the music stops, all the players scramble for the remaining chairs. Someone gets left out.

Figure 1. Circle of chairs arranged for a game of musical chairs. Source

In this post, I will try to explain some of the issues.

[1] In a world with inadequate resources relative to population, conflicts are likely to become increasingly common.

The Russia-Ukraine conflict is one example of a resource-associated conflict. The allies underlying the NATO organization have chosen to escalate the Russia-Ukraine conflict, in part, because the existence of the conflict helps to hide resource shortages and accompanying high prices that are already taking place. No matter how the war is stopped, the underlying resource shortage issue will continue to exist. Therefore, the conflict cannot end well.

If sanctions lead to less trade with Russia (or even worse, less trade with Russia and China), the world economy will have an even greater problem with inadequate resources after the war is over. In fact, many parts of the current economic system are in danger of failing, primarily because depletion is leading to too little energy and other resources per capita. For example, the US dollar may lose its reserve currency status, the world debt bubble may pop, and globalization may take a major step backward.

[2] There is a huge resource depletion issue that authorities in many countries have known about for a very long time. The issue is so frightening that authorities have chosen not to explain it to the general population.

Mainstream media (MSM) practically never mentions that there is a major issue with resource depletion. Instead, MSM tells a narrative about “transitioning to a lower carbon economy,” without mentioning that this transition is out of necessity: The world is up against extraction limits for many kinds of resources. Besides oil, coal and natural gas, resources with limits include many other minerals, such as copper, lithium, and nickel. Other resources, including fresh water and minerals used for fertilizer are also only available in limited supply. MSM fails to tell us that there is no evidence that a transition to a low carbon economy can actually be made.

[3] The big depletion issue is affordability of end products made with high priced resources. The cost of extraction rises, but the ability of the world’s citizens to pay for end products made using these high-cost resources doesn’t rise. Commodity prices do not rise enough to cover the rising cost of extraction. When this affordability limit is hit, it is the resource extracting countries, such as Russia, that find themselves in a terrible situation with respect to the financial well-being of their populations.

The big issue that hits because of depletion is a price conflict. Businesses extracting resources need high prices so that they can reinvest in new mines, in ever more costly locations, but consumers cannot afford these high prices.

In a sense, the higher cost is because of “inefficiency.” As a result of depletion, it takes more hours of labor, more machine time, and a greater use of energy products to extract the same quantity of a given resource that was previously extracted elsewhere. Growing efficiency tends to help wages, but growing inefficiency tends to work the opposite way: Wages don’t rise, certainly not as rapidly as prices of end products.

As a result, commodity exporters, such as Russia, are caught in a bind: They cannot raise prices enough to make new investments profitable. The problem is that the world’s consumers cannot afford the resulting high prices of essentials such as food, electricity and transportation. Russia reports very high reserve amounts, especially for natural gas and coal. It is doubtful, however, that these reserves can actually be extracted. Over the long term, selling prices cannot be maintained at a sufficiently high level to cover the huge cost of extracting, transporting and refining these resources.

The success of a country’s economy can, in some sense, be measured by the country’s per capita GDP. Russia’s GDP per capita has tended to lag far behind that of the US (Figure 2).

Figure 2. Inflation-adjusted per capita GDP of the United States, Russia and Ukraine. Amounts are as provided by the World Bank, using Purchasing Power Parity GDP in 2017 International Dollars.

Russia’s inflation-adjusted GDP per capita fell after the collapse of the central government of the Soviet Union in 1991. It was able to grow again, once oil prices began to rise in the early 2000s. Since 2013, Russia’s GDP per capita growth has again fallen behind that of the US, as increases in oil and other commodity prices again lagged the rising cost of production. Given these difficulties with depletion, Russia is becoming increasingly unwilling to ignore poor treatment it receives from Ukraine.

There may be another factor, as well, leading especially to the escalation of the conflict. The US seems to covet Russia’s resources. Some powers behind the throne seem to believe that Western forces supporting Ukraine can quickly win in this conflict. If such an early win occurs, the aim is for Western forces to step in and inexpensively ramp up Russian resource extraction, allowing the world a new source of cheap-to-produce fossil fuels and other minerals.

In this context, Russia launched an attack on Ukraine on February 24, 2022. Ukraine has presented Russia with problems for many years. One issue has been transit fees for natural gas passing through the country; is Ukraine taking too much gas out? Another problem area has been the rise of the far-right Azov regiment. Russia has also expressed concern that NATO has been training soldiers within Ukraine, even though Ukraine is not a member of NATO. Russia doesn’t want military, trained by NATO, at its doorstep.

[4] World economic growth very much depends on growing energy consumption.

There are two ways of measuring world GDP. The standard one is with the production of each country measured in inflation-adjusted US$, with the changing relative value to the US$ considered. The other approach uses “Purchasing Power Parity” GDP. The latter is supposedly not affected by the changing level of the dollar, relative to other currencies. Inflation-Adjusted Purchasing Power Parity GDP is only available for 1990 and subsequent years. Figure 3 shows the high correlation between energy consumption and PPP GDP during the period from 1990 through 2020.

Figure 3. X,Y graph of world energy consumption for the period 1990 to 2020, based on energy data from BP’s 2021 Statistical Review of World Energy and world Purchasing Power Parity GDP in 2017 International Dollars, as published by the World Bank.

The reason for a strong association between GDP growth with energy consumption growth is a physics-based reason. Producing goods and providing services requires the “dissipation” of energy products because the laws of physics tell us that energy is required to move any object from one place to another, or to heat any object. In the latter case, it is the individual molecules within a substance that move faster and faster as they get hotter. The economy is a “dissipative structure” in physics terms because of the need for energy dissipation to provide the work needed to make the system operate.

Human beings are also dissipative structures. The energy that humans get comes from the dissipation of the energy found in foods of every kind. Food energy is commonly measured in Calories (technically, kilocalories).

[5] World economic growth also seems to depend on factors besides energy consumption.

The fitted equation on Figure 3 (the equation beginning with “y”) implies that GDP is rising much more rapidly than energy consumption, almost twice as rapidly. Over the entire 30-year period, the actual growth rate in energy consumption averages about 1.8% a year. If energy consumption growth had really been 1.8% per year, the fitted equation implies that growth in GDP would have greatly sped up over the period. (In fact, the growth rate in energy consumption was falling over the 30-year period, but GDP grew at closer to a constant rate. In terms of the fitted equation, these two conditions are equivalent.)

Figure 4. Calculated expected GDP growth rate if energy consumption grows at a constant 1.8% per year, based on the fitted equation shown in Figure 3.

How can GDP rise so much more rapidly than energy dissipation? There seem to be several ways such a higher rate of increase can occur, on a temporary basis:

[a] A worldwide trend toward an economy using more services. The production of services tends to require less energy consumption than the production of essential goods, such as food, water, housing and local transportation. As the world economy gets wealthier, it can afford to add more services, such as education, healthcare, and childcare.

[b] A worldwide trend toward more wage and wealth disparity. Such a trend tends to happen with more specialization and more globalization. Strangely enough, a trend to more wage disparity allows the world economy to continue to grow without adding a proportionately greater amount of energy consumption use because of the different spending patterns between low-paid workers and high-paid workers.

Analyzing the situation, the world is filled mostly with low-paid workers. To the extent that the pay of these low-paid workers can be squeezed down, it can prevent these workers from buying goods that tend to use relatively high amounts of energy products, such as automobiles, motorcycles and modern homes. At the same time, growing wage disparity allows the higher-paid workers to be paid more. These higher-paid workers tend to spend a disproportionate share of their income on services, such as education and healthcare, which tend to consume less energy.

Thus, greater wage disparity tends to shift spending away from goods and toward services. The main beneficiaries are the top 1% of workers (who buy mostly services, requiring little energy consumption), rather than the remaining 99% (who would really like goods such as a car and their own home, which require much more energy consumption).

[c] Improvements in technology. Improvements in technology are helpful in raising GDP because technological improvements tend to make finished goods and services more affordable. With greater affordability, more people can afford goods and services. This effect is favorable for allowing the economy, as measured by GDP, to grow more quickly than energy consumption.

There is a catch associated with using improved technology to make goods and services more affordable. Improved technology tends to increase wage disparity because it nearly always leads to owners and a few highly educated workers being paid more, while workers doing the more routine parts of processes are paid less. Thus, it tends to lead to the problem discussed above: [b] A trend toward wage and wealth disparity.

Also, with improved technology, available resources tend to be depleted more quickly than without improved technology. This happens because finished goods are less expensive, so more people can afford them. Once resources start getting exhausted, improved technology can’t fix the situation because resource extraction costs are likely to rise more rapidly than can be offset with the impact of new technology.

[d] A worldwide trend toward more debt at ever-lower interest rates.

We all know that the monthly payment required to purchase a car or home is lower if the interest rate on the debt used to finance the purchase is lower. Thus, falling interest rates can make paychecks go further. Both businesses and citizens can afford to purchase more goods and services using credit, so the overall level of debt tends to rise with falling interest rates.

If we are only considering the period from 1990 to the present, the trend is clearly toward lower interest rates. These lower interest rates are part of what is making the GDP growth higher than what would be expected if interest rates and debt levels remained constant.

Figure 5. 3-month and 10-year US Treasury interest rates through February 28, 2022. Chart by FRED of the St. Louis Federal Reserve.

[6] The world economy now seems to be reaching limits with respect to many of the variables allowing world economic growth to continue as it has in the past, as discussed in Sections [4] and [5], above.

Figure 6. World per capita GDP based on Purchasing Power Parity GDP in 2017 International Dollars calculated using World Bank data.

Figure 6 shows that there have been two major step-downs in world inflation-adjusted per capita PPP GDP. The first one occurred in the 2008-2009 period; the second one occurred in 2020. Figure 7 shows the sharp dips in energy consumption occurring in the same time periods.

Figure 7. World per capita energy based on data of BP’s 2021 Statistical Review of World Energy.

In 2021, energy prices started to rise rapidly when the world economy tried to reopen. This rapid rise in prices strongly suggests that energy extraction limits are being reached.

Another clue that energy production limits are being reached comes from the fact that the group of oil exporters, OPEC+, found that they couldn’t actually ramp up their oil production as quickly as they promised. Once oil production is cut back because of inadequate prices, it is hard to get production to rise again, even if prices temporarily rise because the many pieces of the chain supporting this extraction are broken. For example, trained workers leave and find jobs elsewhere, and contractors go out of business because of inadequate profits.

If we think about it, Items [5a], [5b], [5c] and [5d] are all reaching limits as well. Item [5d] is probably clearest: Interest rates can no longer be lowered. In fact, nearly everyone says that interest rates should now be raised because of the high inflation rates. If interest rates are raised, commodity prices, including prices for fossil fuels, will fall.

With lower fossil fuel prices, there will be pressure for oil, gas and coal producers to reduce their production, even from today’s lower levels. Because of the tight connection between energy and GDP, lower energy production will tend to push economies further toward contraction. Of course, this will make resource exporters, such as Russia, worse off.

As the world economy enters recession, we can expect that Item [5a], the shift from goods toward services, to turn around. People with barely enough money for necessities will reduce their use of services such as haircuts and music lessons. Item [5b], globalization and related wage disparity, is already under pressure. Countries are finding that with broken supply chains, more local production is needed. In the US, recent wage gains have tended to go to the lowest-paid workers. Item [5c], technology growth, cannot ramp up as resources needed from around the world are increasingly unavailable, due to broken supply chains and depletion.

[7] We are likely facing a collapsing world economy because of the limits being reached. Adding sanctions against Russia will further push the world economy in the direction of collapse.

Many sources report that Russian exports of wheat, aluminum, nickel, and fertilizers will be “temporarily” disrupted. A few sources note that Russia plays an important role in the processing of uranium fuel used in nuclear power plants. According to the Conversation:

Most of the 32 countries that use nuclear power rely on Russia for some part of their nuclear fuel supply chain.

We have become used to efficient air travel, but sanctions against Russia make this less possible, especially for flights to Southeast Asia. A Bloomberg article called Siberian Detour Requires Airlines to Retrace Cold War Era Routes gives the example of direct flights from Finland to Southeast Asia being canceled because they have become too expensive and are too time-consuming with the required detours. It becomes necessary to fly indirect connecting routes if a person wants to travel. Many other routes have similar problems.

Figure 8. Source: Bloomberg, “Siberian detour requires airlines to retrace cold war era routes.”

US President Joseph Biden is warning that food shortages are likely in many parts of the world as a result of the sanctions placed against Russia.

According to a video shown on Zerohedge,

“It’s going to be real. The price of the sanctions is not just imposed upon Russia. It’s imposed upon an awful lot of countries as well, including European countries and our country as well.”

If the world economy were doing well, and if Russia were a tiny part of the world economy, perhaps the sanctions could be tolerated by the world economy. As it is, the Russia-Ukraine conflict acts to hide the underlying resource shortage problem. This is possible because, with the conflict, the resource shortages can be described as “temporary” and “necessary” in the context of the terrible things the Russians are doing. The way the West frames the problem provides a scapegoat to deflect anger toward, but it doesn’t fix the problem.

Russia started out being very disadvantaged because commodity prices, in recent years, have not been rising high enough to ensure an adequate living for Russian citizens and high enough tax revenue for the Russian government. Adding sanctions against Russia will simply make Russia’s problems worse.

[8] There is little reason to believe that Russia will “give up” in response to sanctions imposed by the United States and other countries.

The attacks by Russia of Ukrainian sites seems to be occurring for many related reasons. Russia can no longer tolerate being inadequately compensated for the resources it is extracting and selling to Ukraine and the rest of the world. It is tired of being “pushed around” by the rich economies, especially the United States, as NATO adds more countries. It is also tired of NATO training Ukrainian soldiers. Russia seems to have no plan to gain the entire territory of Ukraine; it is more of a temporary police action.

Russia’s underlying problem is that it can no longer produce commodities that the world wants as inexpensively as the world demands. Building all the infrastructure needed to extract and ship more fossil fuel resources would take more capital spending than Russia can afford. The selling price will never rise high enough to justify these investments, including the cost of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline. Russia has nothing to lose at this point. The current situation is not working; going back to it is no incentive for stopping the current conflict.

Russia is in some ways like a heavily armed, suicidal old man, who can no longer earn an adequate living. The economic system of Russia is no longer working as it should. Russia is incredibly well-armed. The situation reminds a person of the story of Samson, in his old age, taking down the temple of the Philistines and losing his own life at the same time. Russia has no reason to back down in response to sanctions.

Figure 9. Figure showing that Russia has a higher inventory nuclear warheads than the US. Figure by the Federation of American Scientists. Source

[9] Leaders of the world, including Joe Biden, appear to be oblivious to the situation we are facing.

Leaders of the world have created ridiculous narratives that overlook the critical role commodities play. They seem to believe that it is possible to cut off purchases from Russia with, at most, temporary harm to the rest of the world economy.

The history of the world shows that the populations of many civilizations have outgrown their resource bases and have collapsed. Physics points out that this outcome is almost inevitable because of the way the Universe is constructed. Everything is constantly evolving, even economies. The climate is constantly evolving, as are the species inhabiting the Earth.

Elected leaders need a story of everlasting growth that they can tell their citizens. They cannot even consider the physics-based way the world economy operates, and the resulting expected pattern of overshoot and collapse. Modelers of what are intended to be long-lasting structures cannot accept this outcome either.

Limits which are defined based on affordability of end products are incredibly difficult to model, so creative narratives have been developed suggesting that humans can move away from fossil fuels if they so desire. No one stops to think that economies cannot continue to exist using a much lower quantity of energy, any more than an adult human can get along on 500 calories a day. Both are dissipative structures; the ongoing energy requirement is built in. Factories close when electricity, diesel and other energy products are cut off.

[10] The sanctions and the Russia-Ukraine conflict cannot end well.

The world economy is already on the edge of collapse because of the resource limits it is hitting. Intentionally stopping Russia’s output of resources like fertilizer and processed uranium is certain to make the situation worse, not better. Once Russia’s output is stopped, it is likely to be impossible to restart Russia’s production at the same level. Trained workers who lose their jobs will likely find jobs elsewhere, for one thing. The shortfall in output will affect countries around the world.

The United States dollar is now the world’s reserve currency. The sanctions being applied indirectly encourage countries to use other currencies to work around the sanctions. There seems to be a substantial chance that the US economy will lose its role as the center of international trade. If such a change takes place, the US will no longer be able to import far more than it exports, year after year.

A major issue is the huge amount of debt most countries of the world have. With a rapidly slowing world economy, repaying debt with interest will become impossible. Debt defaults will further wreak havoc with the world economic system.

We don’t know the exact timing of how this will play out, but the situation does not look good.

About Gail Tverberg

My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
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4,785 Responses to No one will win in the Russia-Ukraine conflict

  1. Fast Eddy says:

    The bird flu outbreak is not real.

    That should be everyone’s starting point – with everything, really – assume the media is lying and wait for them to prove they’re not.

    Always doubt the press.

    Always.

    Especially when the fates seem to converge and every single item in the “news” herds public opinion in the same direction and serves the same agenda

    …which bird flu definitely does.

    https://off-guardian.org/2022/04/11/bird-flu-another-phony-pandemic-this-time-for-chickens/

  2. Gerard+d'Olivat says:

    Hello Gail

    May I ask you something personal? I have been following your posts for years and the essence is crystal clear to me. You even wonder if you have not become paranoid!!! Doesn’t seem very healthy to me by the way.
    The last three years, however, I increasingly feel that I am daily reading the “revelations of John” whether it is about Covid or the impending scarcity of energy.

    I would become paranoid myself if I would take all this ‘seriously’. Well I don’t so that keeps me going.

    I understand that you have children and grandchildren and that you regularly travel ‘back and forth’ either for work or for private purposes to visit your family.

    How enjoyable are these visits and what are you talking about when you are eating your evening or afternoon meal?
    What do you talk about as a mother and grandmother… about their future, their dreams or is it mainly about your apocalyptic visions of collapse and that there is little point in continuing their lives?

    Your site, in short, is beginning to look more and more like the total “demise” church where the apostles and disciples apparently can’t wait for it: the sooner the better….

    I honestly can’t imagine that you and your family are going to be very happy with your site and all those anonymous ‘doom’ egos with their the sooner the better nonsense.

    Since you are the ‘high priest’ of all this Nietzschian raving nonsense and covid and bioweapon conspiracies and rolling tanks and just think of it…. I honestly can’t imagine you living your soul in bliss in ‘appropriate’ peace.

    To end this post on a positive note. I live alternately in France and the Netherlands…I have not yet seen empty shelves…no one is talking about Covid.

    All measures have been lifted and whether a society with ‘less’ energy will be able to function properly…we are going to see.

    Hope you have pleasant periods with your children and grandchildren despite FE and all kinds of other total nonsense anonimi….

    • I am afraid a person can only talk about these subjects to family members only to the extent that they are interested in them and want to talk about them. So my discussions with family members about these issues tend to be brief. Or we talk about other topics. My husband and adult children tend to be on the very liberal (woke) end of the political spectrum.

      I do have a few friends that I talk about some of these issues with. One works in the petroleum industry; one works in the food import industry; one is a recently retired nurse who has concerns about COVID vaccines and the state of the economy; one is a college professor in political sciences/government.

      I only have one grandchild, and he is way too little to talk about these issues. He is three months old.

      The biggest conflict I have had with family members is about COVID vaccines because some of them feel they should convince me to be vaccinated. Fortunately, at this point, this is not a subject of discussion. I have had some email discussions with adults siblings. We decided to call a truce quite a long time ago.

      • Dennis L. says:

        Helpful, thank you.

        Dennis L.

        • Another detail is that I have been talking about energy limits for close to 17 years (since 2005). My husband has been to quite a few of my talks. Relatives have read at least a few of my posts. Energy topics that I write about is very much “old news” to the people I am around every day.

          Also, most of my immediate family is not at all aware of how finances work, so they can’t understand what connection not having enough energy products would have to the rest of the economy.

    • gpdawson2016 says:

      Dear Gerard, my take on ‘depression’ is this: that it comes about thru the denial of reality.
      I don’t think that’s happening here.

      • reante says:

        And the acute loneliness that causes the depression is the result of the structural, forced isolation that abounds on this prison planet. It’s a ‘physical’ denial of reality that manifests the psychological denial that results in the depression.

    • JMS says:

      There are two kinds of people, those who have learned that secrecy and conspiracy are and always have been by default the modus operandi of the elites, and those who believe that Joe Biden is the all powerful leader of the free world, as stated by MSM.
      And it’s amazing that some of the latter attend for years such a demanding course in political realism as the one taught at OFW and are so obtusely impervious to its lessons.
      Anyway, you can take a thirsty donkey to water, but you can’t force him to drink, especially if he is used to soda and believes, because he saw it on TV, that the proponents of water as the hydrator of choice are conspiracy theorists.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Yes there are those who have been exposed to OFW thinking for many years and still they retreat into their delusional worlds….

        This demonstrates a) how stoooopid people are and b) how effective mass formation is…. on stooopid people …

        Mass formation has minimal if any effect on the Great Minds of OFW because they lack the stooopidity to be fooled by mass formation — if they do get captured they quickly come to their senses and they become ever more sceptical to the point where they believe almost nothing and are ready to change position on an issue if the facts and logic dictate.

        • JMS says:

          Hopium is surely the most potent drug there is, pure shots of blinding bliss. Too bad that unlike other drugs it’s intellectually crippling.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      I see that Fast Eddy is sowing a few seeds of doubt there Gerard… is it unsettling to read this stuff?

      I suspect Gail believes some sort of Rapture is headed our way — as she is a Churcher… she might be correct (she usually is)… we’ll see.

      Anyone who is into Rapture surely would welcome the end of the shit show we are living in … did you see the curriculum in a US district teaches 12 year olds to use cucumbers to satisfy themselves and another one is asking primary students to talk to daddy about his erections and stuff?

      I watched a clip the other day of a teen claiming they are a fish … and demand that they be referred to as a fish… (he fish? she fish?)

      Oh yes – if ever there was a time we needed cleansing — this be it!! We need to nuke this f789fest… nuke it real good Gerard… real real good.

      You continue to live in DelusiSTAN and enjoy the short time we have remaining .. you can continue to believe that Covid is almost over (it is almost over .. but not in the way you think)… enjoy those shelves while they are full… bounce your grand children on your lap and make goo goos… but if the CEP fails you keep them close… real close… cuz hungry people… prefer plumpness

      The grim reaper is close Gerard… he’s coming for you .. for me … for everyone…

      Here is his calling card:

      Shale binge has spoiled US reserves, top investor warns Financial Times.

      Preface. Conventional crude oil production may have already peaked in 2008 at 69.5 million barrels per day (mb/d) according to Europe’s International Energy Agency (IEA 2018 p45). The U.S. Energy Information Agency shows global peak crude oil production at a later date in 2018 at 82.9 mb/d (EIA 2020) because they included tight oil, oil sands, and deep-sea oil. Though it will take several years of lower oil production to be sure the peak occurred. Regardless, world production has been on a plateau since 2005.

      What’s saved the world from oil decline was unconventional tight “fracked” oil, which accounted for 63% of total U.S. crude oil production in 2019 and 83% of global oil growth from 2009 to 2019. So it’s a big deal if we’ve reached the peak of fracked oil, because that is also the peak of both conventional and unconventional oil and the decline of all oil in the future.

      Some key points from this Financial Times article: https://energyskeptic.com/2021/the-end-of-fracked-shale-oil/

      • Gerard+d'Olivat says:

        Ha Fast Eddy just a story about Fast Banana

        Thanks for your reply. By the way, you always do that nicely and regularly you mention me in other places. Very nice!
        But eh… I would like to know whether I am ‘worried’ by your comments and apaocaliptic reflections. Not really.
        There are a lot of them by the way, that’s the only thing that really worries me.
        But then that’s what happens to people who ‘live in a site’ and get up and go to bed with it. That becomes a kind of digital sect with ‘chosen people’ and a fixed narrative structure and strange codes and even self-conceived ‘groups’. Well, woe betide you if you step outside the digital door of faith. It’s funny because then you are often quoted.

        Do I get worried about what you can do with cucumbers and whether the world will end and you might even die?

        You know, I used to have a neighbor whose name was ‘Fast Banana’. For years I lived next door to the big Eros Center in the world famous red light district in Amsterdam.
        She did a ‘banana show’ on stage in front of a crazy audience. Well boy what you can do with a banana you can not imagine.

        Well, in any case, after years of hassle next to brothels and endless work in all kinds of countries in Africa, Asia and Russia, nothing scares me anymore.

        That is to say….

        I was actually quite shocked last night. It’s like this .A yellow bucket blew down my street.
        It’s quite dark and all I can see is that bucket, which has taken on a life of its own. It has become a kind of interesting ballet and it is fascinating to watch. It lies on its side and rolls back and forth, sometimes catching wind and moving a little. Then the rolling starts again. By now I was worried about the storm and that rolling yellow bucket.

        If only things would stay up on the balcony, I had stabilized it a bit. Hopefully those tall trees won’t blow down, because they’ll really land on our house given the direction of the wind. What number should you actually call if things go wrong with those trees. And what is the number for my insurance? Does that fall under contents, a broken window like that? Am I actually insured for it? And if windows break and there’s wind force seven in those rooms plus heavy rain, how does that work? Leaks also get on my nerves. Fortunately my whole roof has recently been renewed. It leaked like a sieve in my office, something I didn’t notice at first. I blamed my helper because my computer screen was always covered in water splashes and kept nagging her not to wipe it with a wet cloth. Now the radiator in my little workroom is leaking. Funny, always with me. A brown rusty puddle of water has already formed under my work table. Plumber has been called. Very busy right now with the damage from the storm. In the past I would have cared little or nothing now I even dream about it.

        So you see Fast Eddy, I am quite worried about all sorts of things sometimes I get scared. But since that yellow bucket from last night I thought, oh I wish I was Fast Eddy, that’s just like a rattling yellow bucket that just randomly spins around in all directions, chased by the wind.

        With greetings from ‘Fast Banana’.

    • MM says:

      You may want to read the five stages of grief: served on the web.

      Mostly all of OFW folks did that “work” and in acceptance state everybody is free(d?) to do whatever he likes. f789 the moarons or plant a garden.
      People at this stage naturally develop other priorities in life than “it’s all good, isn’t it?”.
      That might be a reason why newbies frequently back off because the OFW ecosystem is not of their kind. It has been discussed if we should be more kind in the sense of santa claus for children. Well, the grown ups here would not opt for that.
      I see that this will have a certain bubble tendency but so be it.

      Get over it – you are very welcome here!

    • Jeremy says:

      The careful, rational wording of Gail’s posts are anything but ravings. Allowing free speech in the comments section does not make Gail the high priestess of what others are saying. Learn to attribute things correctly.

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    Mon, April 11, 2022, 12:33 PM
    Gen Z and millennials are unique when it comes to demanding a work-life balance. They don’t just want flexible work hours and environments, they want to work for companies that align with their own personal beliefs and values.

    And almost half of Gen Z and millennials would rather be unemployed than unhappy in a job, according to a new study. A majority of them put their personal happiness over work.

    The Workmonitor global study was conducted by multinational human resource consulting firm Randstad. Randstad surveyed 35,000 workers across 34 markets.

    The career goals of Gen Z and millennials are changing power dynamics in the workplace.

    “Our findings should serve as a wake-up call for employers. There’s a clear power shift underway as people rethink priorities,” Sander van ‘t Noordende, global CEO of Randstad, said in a statement.

    Almost two in four members of younger generations would prefer being unemployed than work in a job they don’t like, the study found.

    Most of the young people surveyed said they preferred to work at companies that shared their personal values. Two in five Gen Zers and millennials said they’d take a lower-paying salary if it meant they were purposefully contributing to society.

    Diversity and inclusion were also important to the survey respondents: 49 percent of Gen Z and 46 percent of millennials said they wouldn’t work for a company that didn’t make diversity a priority.

    A priority of Gen Z and millennials is their own happiness. In fact, 56 percent of Gen Z and 55 percent of millennials said they would quit a job if it interfered with their personal lives.

    The study’s finding could offer an explanation as to why employers are finding it difficult to attract younger talent for job openings. Randstad concluded that if employers don’t start tailoring the positions to fit the demands of Gen Zers and millennials, they could face an employee shortage.

    Some 32 percent of Gen Z and 28 percent of millennials are on the hunt for new jobs — as long as they meet their requirements.

    “Young people want to bring their whole selves to work, which is reflected in their determination not to compromise their personal values when choosing an employer,” Noordende said. “Businesses need to rethink their approach to attracting and retaining staff or face serious competition.”

    This is almost too funny…wait till the recession hits hard and workers are tossed out in the sidewalk

  4. Herbie Ficklestein says:

    Years ago I read a book The Grain Merchant….and PBS also ran a documentary on them maybe on their Frontline program…
    So, this fits in right now….
    America’s wealthiest agriculture family has gotten even richer as the Ukraine war sends food prices skyrocketing
    Hannah Towey Apr 9, 2022, 11:59 AM

    Cargill Inc. made $4.9 billion last year, its highest profit ever, per the Bloomberg report. And public competitors like Tyson Foods, Archer Daniels Midland, and Bunge each out-performed the market this week as the cost of soybeans, grains, and corn surge.

    Approximately 90 family members own 88% of Cargill Inc., according to a Forbes profile from 2020. That makes the agriculture and commodities behemoth one of the largest, closely-held private companies in the country.

    Cargill was one of the later companies to announce it would be scaling back its business in Russia, despite the fact that a shipping vessel charted by the company was hit by a missile as it left a Southern Ukraine port in late February.

    When contacted by Insider, a Cargill spokesperson said they “cannot speak for the family members” and pointed to the company’s statement on the situation in Ukraine posted to its website

    When contacted by Insider, a Cargill spokesperson said they “cannot speak for the family members” and pointed to the company’s statement on the situation in Ukraine posted to its website.

    Cargill will also be donating “any profits from these essential activities to humanitarian aid,” the statement continued.

    NOW WATCH: Popular Videos from Insider Inc.

    On the PBS segment showed the head of the family back then in a front row seat at the swearing in of like Four Presidents…remember this company is privately family owned…part of the Elders

  5. Mrs S says:

    Supply update from the UK:

    We have an upcoming funeral. I have been trying to buy a formal suit or jacket for my sons. It’s almost impossible. The physical shops have nothing. The online shops have a good selection until you try to order and then they say ‘out of stock’. It reminds me of Eastern Europe a few decades ago.

    Common things, like school uniform and tracksuits, can be easily found. But anything outside of that appears to have been discontinued.

    • The clothing stores in general seem to have mostly inexpensive clothes that look like they are trying to compete with the clothes that COSCO sells.

      My sister-in-law told me that she was having a terrible time finding a “Mother of the Bride” dress for her daughter’s (my niece’s) wedding in July, for the same reason you mentioned.

    • In the US, there’ve been some online used clothing brokers popping up.. like eBay but for clothing only. One is called Poshmark. You could also try eBay…or what about rental companies? They may have something besides super-formal wear.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Oh — did you think to ask Gerard? There is everything where he is. And gas is 50 cents per litre…

  6. Mirror on the wall says:

    Scott Ritter: The Battle of the Donbass

  7. Mirror on the wall says:

    reante, (subsistence) farming spread throughout Europe through conquest. For example, the first Anatolian farmers on Britain completely eliminated the Western hunter-gatherer stock from the island, as archaeogenetic studies show. They completely wiped them out. Agriculture spread demically (population movement) on the continent too, as it spread from the Near East, although some hunter-gatherer stock did survive on the continent.

    A) Population will tend to boom exponentially until it hits resources limits, and then it busts. There is a constant need to expand territory, which leads to wars of conquest, against hunter-gatherers and against other farmers. Subsistence farming is an inherently aggressive economy, and that is how it came to dominate Europe and to completely replace hunter-gathering.

    B) Farming, like all economies including hunter-gathering, relies essentially on domination, of land, of other species, of other humans. Agriculture is accompanied by destruction of the forests, the replacement of species with species that are useful to humans, the socialisation and control of humans within the group, and the defeat and conquest of outsiders.

    C) Primitive subsistence farming relies on constantly shifting the site of agriculture to avoid depletion of the soil, and slash and burn to gain fresh land. It is inherently expansionist, and a recipe for instability and conflict. Subsistence farming is not some idyllic utopia that ‘ticks’ all of moralistic ‘boxes’. Life is inherently domineering, expansionary and a constant flux, even in its most primitive forms.

    The population boom-bust dynamic is evident in the archaeological record in Europe. This paper discusses the endogenous (naturally inherent) boom-bust demographic pattern in agricultural societies at Neolithic and Bronze Age sites over thousands of years. Farming is not some stable equilibrium, it is inherently dynamic and a recipe for conflict (as is hunter-gathering, and all life which devours itself in order to live).

    > Regional population collapse followed initial agriculture booms in mid-Holocene Europe

    Abstract

    Following its initial arrival in SE Europe 8,500 years ago agriculture spread throughout the continent, changing food production and consumption patterns and increasing population densities. Here we show that, in contrast to the steady population growth usually assumed, the introduction of agriculture into Europe was followed by a boom-and-bust pattern in the density of regional populations. We demonstrate that summed calibrated radiocarbon date distributions and simulation can be used to test the significance of these demographic booms and busts in the context of uncertainty in the radiocarbon date calibration curve and archaeological sampling. We report these results for Central and Northwest Europe between 8,000 and 4,000 cal. BP and investigate the relationship between these patterns and climate. However, we find no evidence to support a relationship. Our results thus suggest that the demographic patterns may have arisen from endogenous causes, although this remains speculative.

    Introduction

    …. We show that although populations did indeed grow rapidly in many areas with the onset of farming, the characteristic regional pattern is one of instability; of boom and bust. We find little evidence that, at the time scales considered, the variation in population levels through time is associated with climate, and that the very small variation in recent climate between three closely adjacent regions, if projected into the past, is not enough to explain the much larger inter-region variation in demography. We discuss other possible causes, and argue that whatever the cause, it is most likely endogenous and has to some extent affected demography in virtually all regions.

    Results

    …. We then tested the SCDPDs for the 12 regions in this specific study for departure from the null model (Fig. 3). Ten of the 12—the exceptions are Central and north Germany—show evidence of a significant increase in population with the local appearance of farming, and then subsequently drop back to trend; populations in Scotland and Ireland drop significantly below trend. All regions except Central and North Germany show evidence of demographic fluctuations significant beyond expectation under our exponential null model, positive and/or negative and large in scale, over the course of the Neolithic (all data and demographic patterns are summarized in Table 1). It is important to note that strong support for these demographic patterns in Britain is found in independent evidence such as indicators of anthropogenic impact on forest cover from pollen diagrams21 and the fluctuations in the number of directly dated cereal grains and hazel nut shells—indicators of subsistence type and intensity—from Neolithic and Bronze Age sites22. Similarly, independent support for the patterns shown in the Rhineland has been found23,24…..

    https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms3486

    • reante says:

      You need to get your concepts under control. And your terminology. I did not say “subsistence farming societies,” which is completely useless, industrial term used to mean low-to-no (monetary) income peasant farming. What I said was “subsistence societies,” meaning any society that does not run the structural surpluses that are the hallmark of hierarchical, growth-based societies. The farmers who mowed down the hunter-gatherers were running surpluses in order to accomplish the mowing.

      You are letting Nietzsche and whoever else you’ve read think for you. These men came before the mature field of cultural anthropology. Their milieu was not ecologically-minded. Nobody here is talking about utopia or idealistically – that’s the first strawman argument that life-hating gatekeepers like you turn to whenever discussion turns to our vast human heritage under natural law.

      Hunter gatherers did not farm. They practiced low -level horticulture. Basically collecting seeds and redistributing them to favorable locations. Slash and burn techniques for plant farming were the sole province of surplus societies. Any slash and burn practices by hunter gatherers would have been done in order to increase grazing lands that had become brushed over due to a cyclical depletion of game from overhunting which doubtless happened all the time, and was learned from. Learned from the hard way. Grass doesn’t exist without grazing animals. They become depleted and brush moves in, then the saplings.

      • Mirror on the wall says:

        OK, you are against farming and for hunter-gathering. Hunter-gatherers wiped out all of the large mammals in whatever region humans expanded into, and it was likely abandoned, and farming was adopted, precisely because H-G was not in practice sustainable. H-G is not an ‘alternative’ to farming, rather farming developed due to the inherent unsustainability of H-G outside of very limited niches.

        Hunter-gathering is all about the domination and killing of other life forms, and in practice it wipes out the large mammals, whether they are threats to humans or not. The world is not some imaginary ‘hippy paradise’. Humans, like all species, will do whatever they need to survive, and that always involves the domination and killing of other species, and even their extinction.

        If you do not like the way that the world works, and you are ‘too good for this world’, then you can ‘do your bit’ for the planet by simply ending yourself. That is the only ‘meaningful contribution’ that you can make. So why do you not ‘put your money where your mouth is?’ It is really up to you. Otherwise you are a hypocrite and your continued life has a massive impact on the planet. So, show us how much you mean what you say, and that you are not just a big mouthed hypocrite.

        > How the extinction of ice age mammals may have forced us to invent civilisation

        …. Hunting abandoned

        Yet something changed. From 10,000 years ago onward, humans repeatedly abandoned the hunter-gatherer lifestyle for farming. It may be that after the extinction of mammoths and other megafauna from the Pleistocene epoch, and the overhunting of surviving game, the hunter-gatherer lifestyle became less viable, pushing people to harvest and then cultivate plants. Perhaps civilisation wasn’t born out of a drive to progress, but disaster, as ecological catastrophe forced people to abandon their traditional lifestyles.

        As humans left Africa to colonise new lands, large animals disappeared everywhere we set foot. In Europe and Asia, megafauna like wooly rhinos, mammoths, and Irish Elk vanished around 40,000 to 10,000 years ago. In Australia, giant kangaroos and wombats disappeared 46,000 years ago. In North America, horses, camels, giant armadillos, mammoths and ground sloths declined and disappeared from 15,000 to 11,500 years ago, followed by extinctions in South America 14,000 to 8,000 years ago. After people spread to the Caribbean Islands, Madagascar, New Zealand and Oceania, their megafauna vanished as well. Megafaunal extinctions inevitably followed humans.

        Harvesting big game like horses, camels and elephants produces a better return than hunting small game like rabbits. But large animals like elephants reproduce slowly, and have few offspring compared to small animals like rabbits, making them vulnerable to overharvesting. And so everywhere we went, our human ingenuity – hunting with spear-throwers, herding animals with fire, stampeding them over cliffs – meant we harvested large animals faster than they could replenish their numbers. It was arguably the first sustainability crisis.

        With our hunting prey gone, we were forced to invent civilisation.

        With the old way of life no longer viable, humans would have been forced to innovate, increasingly focusing on gathering, then cultivating plants to survive. This let human populations expand. Eating plants rather than meat is a more efficient use of land, so farming can support more people in the same area than hunting. People could settle permanently, build settlements, then civilisations.

        https://theconversation.com/how-the-extinction-of-ice-age-mammals-may-have-forced-us-to-invent-civilisation-128799

      • Mirror on the wall says:

        This is hunter-gatherers in America. Generally the only large mammal species that survive humans are those that evolve to fear us and to run away fast enough. It really is up to them.

        > The Three Great American Extinction Events — A Brief History

        The First Great American Extinction Event (Approximately 13,000–11,000 years ago)

        …. When people first descended into North America, they encountered these herbivores, as well as a dazzling array of carnivores.

        American lion, one of the largest cats to have ever lived and nearly twice the size of an African lion, hunted wild horse and bison on the plains. American cheetah chased down the ancestors of modern pronghorn — North America’s fastest land mammal extant today. Sabretooths hunted in packs and specialized in preying on young elephants. The animal made famous by Game of Thrones, the dire wolf, also stalked prey among these large cats. None, however, compared to the gargantuan short-faced bear. Standing 13 feet tall on its back legs, these beasts weighed a ton — nearly three times the size of modern grizzlies — and ate 50 pounds of meat a day (they probably specialized in stealing giant carcasses).

        Never in history had modern humans encountered such an array of large predators and prey. One can only imagine the sense of awe and fear they must have inspired.

        Unfortunately, those giants didn’t last long. Shortly after people arrived, the megafauna vanished.

        Damning evidence indicates that, although climate change was at play, we were probably the deciding factor[1]: virtually no trees, plants, or small mammals went extinct during that time[2] — only the big, conspicuous species. Until the moment the great elephants went down, their tusks were growing larger and they were breeding, indicating they were well-fed.[3] And we now know that every continent’s megafauna — except for Africa and parts of Asia, where wildlife evolved to fear us — disappeared at nearly the exact moment humans came onto the scene.[4]

        In North America, this mass vanishing was so great, 73.3% genera of large mammals went extinct shortly after people arrived. The giant mammals that once defined the American wild became fossilized memories, in fewer than a thousand years. These extinctions accelerated as people spread into South America and, eventually, even the world’s most remote islands. By the time the global migration of people came to an end, half of the planet’s genera of large mammals had vanished.

        With this history in mind, it’s accurate to say that North America closely resembled an African game park for millions of years. Like the giraffes, lions, and elephants of Africa, our country’s ecosystems were run by sloths, sabretooths, and mammoths….

        https://medium.com/wild-without-end/the-three-great-american-extinction-events-a-brief-history-fc1dc00bacf7

        • reante says:

          If that’s the case then tell me how is it that people killed all the american true megafauna yet the bison population was 150M strong only 175 years ago? What made them so special in the eyes of evil mankind?

          Don’t forget to put your thinking cap on.

          Do humans have the innate capacity for greed and selfishness? Absolutely. Were there animist peoples that faced chronic ecological pressures that resulted in social and ecological dysfunction? Of course. But the ecology relentlessly deselected for those societies. Then came the culture change that was the intentional running of year-on-year food surpluses. It amounted to nothing less than resorting to the ‘nuclear option.’ When you resort to the nuclear option against anyone or anything, you care nothing for it anymore. It’s a hard decoupling.

          • Mirror on the wall says:

            When are you going to ‘put your thinking cap on’, do the decent thing for the planet and off yourself? No one is stopping you.

            • reante says:

              Don’t be a fool brother.

            • Mirror on the wall says:

              Just answer the question you fool.

              Your life has a massive impact on the planet. Why do you not do the ‘responsible’ thing for the planet, and the only meaningful step that you could take, and end yourself?

              Just answer.

              All that you would have to do is to hold your breath under the warm water in the bath for two or three minutes and the planet will not have to suffer any more harm due to your existence. Why not? It it is not that hard to do.

              Is it because you are a disgusting, selfish hypocrite with a big mouth? Of course it is. Prove me wrong and end yourself, no one is stopping you.

              You are not my brother, you are nothing to me.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Ya norm … answer the questions … we are all waiting

              hahahahahahahahaahahaha

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Too bad the HG’s didn’t exterminate the farmers.

    • I can believe that boom and bust patterns occurred in early agriculture.

      • MM says:

        When your society busts and it survives, humanity can learn.
        When it busts without a trace nothing is to learn.Back to suqare one
        Not talking about scripture here. Or wars to destroy scriptures.

        Mirror poses as homo sapiens is a machine incapable of learning and adjusting. Nobody said that this is easy but claiming that it is in principle impossible because we are just machines is just incomprehensible.

        For me it looks like a mental death trap (or better post fact rationalising) and I can only say that I am happy not to exist in it. If mirror enjoys it, fine with me.

        • reante says:

          No kidding, MM. It’s just a juvenile refusal to take responsibility. Shadow play. I’ve been there. Like you said it’s a dead end. It’s ‘philosophical’ capture bonding. It’s rock bottom. Like Thierry alluded to yesterday, getting past it effectively requires being born again, so to speak. It’s a hero’s journey out of rock bottom.

          • Instead, it’s juvenile to think that evolution and history come down to being someone’s “fault”, for which “we” need to “take responsibility”.

            If we only have so many years to live, I’ll be damned if I spend it all in some kind of Struggle Session.

            • reante says:

              I never said that either evolution or history are “somebody’s” fault. Evolution is never at fault because evolution is everything that we are. The history problem — civilization — is a cultural problem. Acknowledging the Elders’ existence and machinations is accuracy. But they are still just the vanguard of the larger cultural problem which has caused, on balance, planetary devolution.

              If you don’t want to learn from the fix we’re in and take responsibility for your life by struggling to do our species justice — justice to its 4B year heritage — then that’s your business, but don’t put that Paul Chefurka hospice mode on me by calling my legitimate struggle damnable. Nothing worse than a defeated, negative person dragging other people down with them.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Nothing worse than a defeated, negative person dragging other people down with them.

              Hmmm…. it is my goal to crush all hope in the future … cuz there is no hope… there is no future.

              From cornucopians to doomie preppers to green groopies to bau liters — I am standing by to blast holes in all of these ridiculous theories…. cuz they are nonsense..

              BAU is finished. It’s dying. OFW is hosting BAU’s funeral. Once it dies – there is nothing. No future. Only bleak cold darkness… without humans.

              http://dreamicus.com/data/apocalypse/apocalypse-08.jpg

        • Mirror on the wall says:

          “Mirror poses as homo sapiens is a machine incapable of learning and adjusting.”

          Hardly.

          Get your act together.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Humans cannot learn. They would do exactly the same thing over again given the chance.

          They have a disability – they are made stooopid by their outsized brains

          • Mirror on the wall says:

            What is your excuse for not ending yourself?

            You think that collapse will make GOOD TEEVEE?

            You can hardly square that nihilism with complaints about humans.

            Admit it FE, you are just a sad coward who pretends that posturing about humans is a substitute for a life.

            • FE is fulfilling his destiny to the max: traveling around checking off things on his bucket list, posting a lot, increasing the carbon footprint of a handful of random Filipinos, and burning stuff in the Rayburn.

              Besides the posting thing… what have YOU done, Mirror? What constitutes your “life”?

              🙂

              MM, no one “learns” anything from history. If we could have, we would have. QED.

              We can regard things intellectually, but we can’t change our innate nature any more than we can expect Al Gore to move into an Earthship.

              Life depends on combustion.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Speaking of Rayburn… I just hauled another 44 x 40kg bags and piled them next to the other 44 x 40kg from the other day … it was raining this morning to I’ll wait till tomorrow to get the 3rd 44 x 40kg .. then maybe Thurs or Friday pick up the final 44 x 40kg…

              Then soon I start to Burn … I loved burnin sh it… specially when it makes lots and lots of black smoke… black smoke makes one feel Like a Man … f789 solar panels that’s for girlie boys… you ain’t got no heavy black smoke comin out the chimney you ain’t got no meaning in life…

              Black Smoke = Progress = Civilization

              Soooo Eeeeeeee….

              https://media.tenor.com/images/cb8a30f983ce8127fb6851646471ebb3/tenor.gif

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Let’s do that again .. I wonder if I could convert my ute to coal?

              Sooooo EEeeeeeee… ride this through Queenstown and I’d get some looks I bet!

              Personalize plate – Burn Coal… or F789 It

              https://78.media.tumblr.com/1c05bd9502343b72e4cd95d8874cebfd/tumblr_mx541uSQsj1s7zyzlo1_500.gif

            • Mirror on the wall says:

              Is he really?

              He thinks and says that you deserve to be exterminated.

              Is he wrong?

              🙂

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Mirror .. you seem rather upset today … what exactly has triggered you?

              Is it the suggestion that humans need to be exterminated because they torture animals and each other and are paving over the planet?

              If so I assume you disagree… please provide some supporting documentation for your position.

              Or you can just keep screaming for Fast Eddy to commit soosiside… she commits sooosiside by the seashore – say that 10x fast!

              We’ve been through this before — Fast Eddy cannot commit soosiside (by the seashore or elsewhere) because Fast Eddy is not a physical entity… yes of course I could commit soosiside (by the seashore sounds pleasant)… but Fast Eddy — like Pazoozoo…would simply choose another vessel and continue as before…

              Here’s a tip – if a bear chases you — don’t climb a tree – that’s all a myth

              https://youtu.be/3vIwNyqIceE

            • Fast Eddy says:

              The world needs Fast Eddy — otherwise it would spin the other way around and it would be even more f789ed up (time would count backwards .. water would flow the other way… etc)

              What’s your reason for sticking around?

            • MM says:

              @lidiaseventeen

              People always mix up the “we” with the “me”.
              I was told in school for example that my German fellows were very evil 80 years ago.
              30 years later I learned that Prescot Bush and the Warburgs were heavily invested in A.H.

              If there existed a “learning” we could “learn”.

              Actually Olaf Scholz is entangled with a corruption issue concerning Warburg Bank Hamburg.
              So has “he” learned, or “I” learned or what difference does it make anyways that I know it?

              I have no connections to the Warburgs and I would not engage in one. More than control my own “morality” is not available but that is pretty bold on my part…

            • reante says:

              And what exactly is our innate nature, lidia?

            • Lidia17 says:

              reante, our nature is just as you see it.

              There is no “cultural problem” with humans, just as there is no “cultural problem” with termites or with slime molds. Your seeing human culture as a problem rather than a given—seeing humans as somehow separate from human “culture”, or humans and their culture as somehow separate from the rest of nature?—might be a personal problem for yourself: I don’t know… I can certainly see that it is for others.

              I don’t feel negative or defeated, nor do I want to drag anyone down. What’s better? To accept reality or to expend oneself in the Sisyphean task of trying to redeem humanity.. now that *would* make me feel negative and defeated. Just look around you at the people injecting their children with deadly gene gick.. look at the people just in today’s news: stabbing dolphins and raping infants. What is there to be redeemed, exactly?

              In my case, I seek coherence over incoherence, I suppose.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              In response to mirror – the better question is — why don’t I commit an act of mass murder…. that is the more logical action … offing myself is meaningless – as would be mass murder but it’s still a more significant gesture in support of the animals that gassing myself…

              If I could take down say a couple of billion I’d definitely be on for that — but my ability to make a positive impact is so limited … that I may as well just hang around and wait for Devil Covid…

              I do like to watch.

      • Mirror on the wall says:

        Gail, there are loads of papers on boom-bust in different historical episodes, but they do tend to focus on the particular episodes. It would be possible to compile a bibliography, but it would be nicer if someone had already done the work of compilation or overview lol. I am fairly sure that people get paid for that sort of thing.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      If only some strong man of the day had strangled the first person who put a seed in the ground… and issued an edict that anyone else trying this on … gets their head hacked off…

      We’d not be 8B

      We blew it.

      And btw Scott and Helen Nearing should have been crucified… as a symbolic gesture

  8. Dennis L. says:

    Came across this by accident, it seems to me to be very relevant and also a good framework upon which to analyze things.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0CQsifJrMc&t=5s

    Peter Ziehan seems credible, demographics is key, it is the distribution which is important and he is consistent with Musk regarding population collapse, see in particular China. China has no women for all the men; now that makes for a very boring life.

    Europe is covered, migration is covered, world trade and globalization is covered.

    For the US it is comforting, agriculture. Interesting insights on Mexico and the drug cartels.

    Being a boomer, Peter has us responsible for inflation, we are leaving the workforce and we are leaving with our skill set.

    At about 11:00 minutes in he reviews China, problem is their workers are aging, different demographic. China is the fasting aging society in history, about 12 minutes I think. Their population drops by half by 2050, wow!

    16:26 begins a section on pork, the question is , “Where is the pork?”

    17:00 power outages are discussed.

    17:30 Chinese vaccine discussed and hence a reason for lockdowns.

    18:55 more pork, food and culling of the heard, size of swine heard, more pigs culled in China than rest of world combined, wow! 100 million pigs, thus they are buying up all the food they can get.

    20:11 China criminalized the export of fertilizers. wow!

    21 slide on investment in oil and natural gas, so soonest inflation decrease in O&G is 2025 except, except for US. Go team! Shale basins, Art Berman seems to be in agreement with this, Permian Basin. NA does not have transport problems and development of a shale well in weeks, not years.

    23:22, effect of hurricanes on natural gas prices, declined with advent of shale, no hurricanes on land.

    24:05 slide on others, price of natural gas.

    24:28 nitrogen fertilizer from natural gas, US has it, slides on price Europe/world and US.

    25:00 temperature and population densities of Russia. Compares population density of Russia to eastern Nebraska less Omaha, etc.

    27:30 has slides on Russian demographics and problem of holding Ukraine. It is a people problem, those who have run a business know what I am referring to.

    29:00 or so, fertilizer and sourcing of all three, NPK, again US will be fine, rest of world, well, he used the technical term, f…… FE can explain that.

    31:00 or so he discusses US land being very good. Yes, I am always the optimist.

    Typed this as I listened to video, well worth a read, Fort Benning has some very interesting lectures, beats TV which I do not have.

    To to run, it is a good listen, well presented.

    Ordered his upcoming book. So much to read, tough to come up with general ideas upon which to hang various ideas.

    Dennis L.

    • nlowrie says:

      Watched the video in full, I’d recommend it. He has Japan as a stable country in one of the later slides. Not sure how true this is as they are facing a demographic cliff as well

    • ivanislav says:

      He seems to have a grasp the state of of demographics, resources, and geography on power projection, but his analysis is often dead wrong. He’s just not very smart. Anyone should go look at his history of failed predictions from 10 years ago before they give weight to his analysis.

      For example, last week he put out a piece saying the Ukraine war is so that Russia can attain a more defensible geography and seemed totally oblivious to its origins in the 8-year war between ethnic Russians and Ukranian forces in eastern Ukraine. Total unadulterated bullshit.

      • ivanislav says:

        Another example: between 13:50 and 15:30, he says “the Chinese import 80% of their oil needs and 85% of that comes from the Persian Gulf. It is the single most exposed trade route on the planet … you put two destroyers in the Indian Ocean and 3 months later the trucks stop running” … “there’s a reason the Chinese are sounding really desperate and really belligerent and really bitter – they know it’s almost over”.

        What a stupid analysis. They have a ton of nuclear subs and hypersonics that we can’t defend, certainly enough to take out US ships, and are now scaling up their nuclear arms and will be importing cheap oil and gas from Russia. Aircraft carriers and destroyers are liabilities when facing a peer competitor.

        • reante says:

          It doesn’t require cutting off China’s supply line in the Indian ocean. During collapse possession is nine-tenths of the law. The US physically possesses Saudi Arabia and it’s oil, because it has military bases in SA. and there’s nothing that China can do about it. According to reante’s Horsetrading Theory of Everything (HTOE), the US will depose the House of Saud and get the lion’s share of Saudi oil. China may still get some but another side of this particular horsetrade is that the US already handed over Iraqi oil production to China last summer, on a platter — something they snuck in under the radar like with Turkey’s mysterious jump in natural gas consumption.

          • ivanislav says:

            The US didn’t “hand over” oil production, they got kicked out. The Iraqi parliament refused to work with US producers and the US tried to unofficially divide up Iraq after that to get their producers back in.

      • Dennis L. says:

        ivan,

        I need scenarios in which to place events, one can pick and chose from this information, correlate it with what is presented here and elsewhere.

        I am in farming, didn’t realize how important climate is, mostly pay attention to weather. Gives one confidence to purchase more land, bet on climate and accept weather – volatility.

        The demographic ideas are consistent with others, CHS, Musk come to mind. I shall live beyond 2029 with a bit of luck, SS goes “bust” at that point, prepare now, avoid the rush to steal from JMG.

        Dennis L.

        • SS goes bust when there isn’t food to go around, I am afraid. We are dealing with a situation where what we can buy each year depends on the crop yields that year and the international trade each year. SS really doesn’t have a clue when the system won’t work any more.

          • Dennis L. says:

            Agreed.

            Part of why I am here, listen to almost everyone, check various ideas against scenarios and make a personal guess.

            I am the optimist, something will turn up. The scenario I mentioned earlier shows population declining secondary to lack of births.that changes the per capita equation, gives time to go to Mars and mine the NNR, refine near the sun and return good stuff to space ship earth. With a bit of luck, SS goes on; it is a lifeline for many of us and was good social policy.

            Dennis L.

    • I notice that you posted a link to a different Peter Ziehan video back in 2019.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHr999RGPQw

      This is link to a short video I put up recently on China, that is also by Peter Ziehan.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-3kIsW4KEM

      This is a link to a short video I recently put up in the comments on Russia, that is also by Peter Ziehan. It is called, “How Russia will Die”

      • Dennis L. says:

        Interesting, the link to the lecture in 2019 starts in the same way as the more recent one.

        This was at a land conference, I did not listen to it but I assume it is extolling the wisdom of buying land.

        That idea has worked very well so far, no argument, observation.

        Dennis L.

    • Hubbs. says:

      Thanks for posting, Dennis. On it as I type.

  9. Herbie Ficklestein says:

    Let the Hunger Games Begin!

    https://qz.com/2150031/plastic-use-in-agriculture-is-contributing-to-climate-change/?utm_source=YPL

    Plastic in fields—such as for mulching, enclosing hoop houses, and constructing greenhouses is drastically changing the rural landscape. The satellite image above of an area of Turkey processed by the NASA Earth Observatory shows much of the farmland is white because it is covered by plastic. NASA says South Korea, Spain, and Turkey all use significant amounts of plastic to produce food in greenhouses. In China, plastic-covered greenhouses make up about three percent of the farmland.
    The area around Almería, Spain has the largest concentration of greenhouses in the world. The greenhouses span over 64,000 acres (260 sq km) and have been around for decades.
    The shift to greenhouses was dubbed the “White Revolution” in South Korea and allowed the country to grow fresh vegetables year round. Now, it’s helped grow exports and stabilize prices (pdf

    The amount of plastic in the world is incomprehensible. Carbon emissions from plastic is estimated to outpace coal emissions by 2030. A recent report (pdf) by FAO forecasts a 50% increase in demand by 2030 of plastics used in agriculture.
    Plastic has found its way into many farming applications that have become integral to the industry. Relying on plastic in agriculture is derided as “plasticulture”. Plastic is cheap and makes tasks faster and lighter. Plastic film is used as a ground cover to prevent weed growth, and plastic containers trap moisture.

    Plastic may have worthy benefits in the short term, but the long-term effects of using plastic each season cannot be ignored.

    Wow… important article…back in the day visited many Permaculture sites and plastic was used in many ways….didn’t realize how extensive it is in growing foods. BAU baby…we are hooked..
    Just imagine when plastic goes….

    • Between plastic for mulching and corn and other crops used for biofuels, we seem to be moving in the wrong direction.

    • Rodster says:

      A couple of years ago, Sky News in the UK did an exposé on plastics in the oceans. It was eye opening and showed how bad the problem really is.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D35YnZ7_WxM

      • Fast Eddy says:

        And Mirror thinks extermination is not necessary — hahahahaha

        Let’s say one was intelligent life from another planet — and was observing Earth from afar… would one alien not say to his buddy — what a wonderful place that Earth is … but what’s with those things that call themselves humans — they are destroying the Earth — ya … call up the Virus Department and have them put something together that will exterminate them… and at the same time hit those spent fuel ponds that these f789ing MOREONS made with the anti nuke laser beam and vapourize them…

        Consider it done.

    • Jef Jelten says:

      I have written about this for years. SO called “organic” farming means covering each and every row with plastic. They have special attachments for tractors that furrow, lay down plastic over the mounds, and push dirt over the sides to hold it down. These attachments do 6, 8 or 10 rows across. Down the middle of the plastic is a tubular pocket for irrigation.

      I have seen thousands of acres covered like this every year for 10 years or more. One local “organic” grower piles up the dirty used plastic after harvest. The pile is bigger than the largest multi-story barn I have ever seen. I asked and it is too dirty and tainted with high concentrations of “organic” chemicals for it to be recycled.

      The area of greenhouses in Spain is called “Mar del plastico” sea of plastic it is so big. It is located on the edge of the Med and I have seen pictures of hundreds of tons of used greenhouse plastic dumped into the sea.

      • Note the use of tractors and irrigation. Also “organic” chemicals. All of this is fossil fuel intensive.

      • Herbie Ficklestein says:

        The above article also states the plastic is breaking down in mirco atoms and entering the food stream and our bodies…
        I’m more concerned of this happening than Fast Edwin s CEP pogrom.
        Of course, not to mention all the man created chemicals that we have been exposed to in our lives…

        • Rodster says:

          As the saying goes: “if the oceans die, we die”. We are already seeing the impact on marine life and it’s only getting much worse. Sky News did another follow up documentary on the piles of plastics washing up on beaches in certain parts of the world.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            I’m sure dumping all the spent fuel (hundreds of thousands of tonnes of it) into the oceans would not kill everything in them though hahahahaaha

        • With a lot less oil and gas, we will also have a lot less plastics. I suppose that is good for the environment.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Don’t worry about plastic… we’ll all be dead before it matters

    • Some people we know have a farm and are specialized-food producers. They invited a number of clients to come by next week for a “plastic-picking party”.Two hours of combing plastic out of their fields and they provide a gourmet lunch.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      I friend once informed me that we could feed the world by building green houses in high rises… (as we run out of land…)…..

      He also believes that we will soon be able to generate body parts to replace worn out joints and organs..

      I wonder if there is anything that is in the MSM that he doesn’t believe

  10. Herbie Ficklestein says:

    Elevated prices and less available fertilizers trigger an undesirable snowball effect which will inevitably result in limited produce amounts. As farmers start to use the hot commodity more sparingly to save money and simply due to lack of access, crop yields will likely decrease. This adds to another existing concern of climate change’s impact on yields. Farmers may also deploy a strategy of rotating in more crops which require lower fertilizer levels.

    “Larger producers may be able to weather the storm of higher fertilizer prices, but smallholder and family-run farms who cannot afford higher costs can be hit hard by market volatility of these key products,” Svein Tore Holsether, CEO and president of Yara International, a major producer of nitrogen fertilizer, told Fortune.

    If climbing prices do lead to the closures of some smaller production farms, food items will become that much harder to find across the world’s grocery stores.

    With other factors at play, food cost increases are already in motion. And, with the additional impacts from the war, the USDA now predicts a 4.5 – 5.5% increase in all food items during 2022. However, since many farmers purchase fertilizer far in advance, consumers may not start to see the full effects of this shift until after the upcoming harvest season and later into 2022.
    All of this is a double whammy, if not a triple whammy,” global head of commodity strategy at TD Securities, Bert Melek, told CNBC. “We have geopolitical risk, higher input costs and basically shortages.”

    https://www.eatthis.com/news-produce-shortage-grocery-stores-2022/

    • I am not sure that this message is getting across to the world. They seem to think, “The war in Ukraine is causing temporary problems. These problems will soon disappear.”

    • Fred says:

      “a 4.5 – 5.5% increase in all food items during 2022”

      ???

      I’ve read US food inflation is currently running at 12% per month.

  11. Harry McGibbs says:

    “EU meets OPEC amid calls for oil output increase.

    “European Union officials will hold talks in Vienna with OPEC representatives on Monday amid calls for the producer group to increase output and as the EU considers potential sanctions on Russian oil.”

    https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/eu-meets-opec-amid-calls-oil-output-increase-2022-04-11/

  12. Harry McGibbs says:

    “From Pakistan to Peru, soaring food and fuel prices are tipping countries over the edge… The combination could generate a wave of political instability, as people who were already frustrated with government leaders are pushed over the edge by rising costs.

    “”It is extremely worrisome,” said Rabah Arezki, a senior fellow at Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government and former chief economist at the African Development Bank.”

    https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/09/business/food-fuel-prices-political-instability/index.html

    • Harry McGibbs says:

      “Charting The Global Economy: Soaring Food Costs Risk Destabilization.

      “Record-high food inflation is tightening its grip on the global economy, most critically in developing nations where financial distress is contributing to increased political instability. The costs of staples such as wheat and cooking oils continue to accelerate…”

      https://www.bloombergquint.com/business/charting-global-economy-soaring-food-costs-risk-destabilization

    • ivanislav says:

      The combination of Europe’s reduction in use of Russian energy (driving up demand and prices at other suppliers) together with Russia’s response of cutting certain commodity exports (food and fertilizer) may cause massive hunger in poor nations and migration into Europe. It has the potential to dwarf the migrations in recent years that were politically, economically, and culturally unpalatable.

      If Russia chooses to, it can destroy Europe economically in multiple ways within a year. Either Russia’s political establishment is too spineless to retaliate symmetrically, or they need the oil/gas revenue to cover the war expenditures and are just biding their time for when they can afford a proportionate response.

      • Harry McGibbs says:

        The UK may be outsourcing its migrant-processing, perhaps in anticipation of such surges:

        “Boris Johnson is set to announce plans to send migrants to Rwanda to be processed, it has been reported. The prime minister is edging closer to unveiling proposals to fly asylum seekers to Rwanda for processing and settlement, according to reports in The Times.”

        https://news.sky.com/story/migrant-crisis-home-office-does-not-deny-reported-plans-to-send-migrants-to-rwanda-for-processing-12582679

      • I am not certain this is necessary:
        “If Russia chooses to, it can destroy Europe economically in multiple ways within a year.”

        Europe’s economy seems to be headed down the drain, whatever it does. High prices for fossil fuels were hitting Europe, even before the current problems hit. Russia becomes a convenient scapegoat.

        • ivanislav says:

          Europe is in turmoil as you point out, but since they hate Russians, won’t openly and fairly discuss the lead-up to the war or the war itself in the media, and are sending weapons to kill Russians, it may be in Russia’s interest to hit Europe so hard that they cannot afford to continue the present path.

      • MM says:

        If Russia cuts off the gas, Europe would finally have a casus belli for signing out of FF as fast as they can what is in their interest anyhow. If Russia cut Europe off, this customer will for sure never come back for nothing. The short-term effect might be devastaing for Europe but the long-term effect is even worse.
        If Europe would really succed in surviving a cut-off and do it with renewables and other sources other customers would also consider it a role-model.
        That was in principle the early idea of the German Energiewende. To create a renewable industrial base and be a role-model.
        For political reasons both failed.
        You might say that it is an erenergy related issue. Well, this question has not even been tried answering…
        I get the point that with current rate of consumption renewables will not make it but there were also German economists as Nico Paech and Mrs Hermann that rallied for some sort of societal agreement on degrowth and restructuring – to no avail of course.

        As the Hirsch report said: 10 years is impossible but having done it 50 years earlier might have worked.

        From where we are now, all paths are already pretty deep in the gravitational sink…

        • The Hirsch report didn’t anticipate that we would be running short of coal and oil at the same time, and natural gas not far behind.

          • MM says:

            Gail, all your words counted but thinking that very high strategists in the economy and the military did not know anything about peaking or reserves or their physics is plain naive. They have internet too and I bet that they look especially deep at the fringe sites.

            Check out this paper in german by the German Bundeswehr:
            http://peak-oil.com/download/Peak%20Oil.%20Sicherheitspolitische%20Implikationen%20knapper%20Ressourcen%2011082010.pdf

            Selling this of course is a thing that needed to be delayed or can-kicked as we say as long as possible.

            In Germany the Energiewende was not at all about running out. It was pretty good in time around 2000. It could have been implemented in stealth mode.
            From what I gathred the free-market ideology contradicted all approaches for “coordinated action”.
            After it started getting off rails a lot of people complained and did everything to convince the public and the poliicians.
            Once the greens figured out that it is not feasible they came up with power to gas and all that other nonsense completely off physics and economics. The guys in the USA call it virtue-signalling or wokeism.

            From that position it could only have gotten worse and it did.

            • I am well aware of the German military paper on the subject of peak oil.

              I also was paid to participate in an event at the US Navel War College in Rhode Island in back in 2010. The President of the College at that time, Rear Admiral James P. Wisecup, invited me. The group of us who were invited were asked to talk about how resource limits of various kinds could be expected to impact the US Navy. (There were also a couple of Climate Change speakers.)

              The Naval War College wanted to put together war games that they could practice with.

    • Political instability goes with poor economic outcomes. Perhaps a different leader or a different form of government will fix the situation!

  13. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Rising Food Costs Push Arab World’s Vulnerable to Breaking Point.

    “In North Africa, the challenge is more acute because of a legacy of economic mismanagement, drought and social unrest that’s forcing governments to walk a political tightrope at a precarious time.”

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/rising-food-costs-push-arab-040004921.html

  14. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Protests in Pakistan over Imran Khan’s removal, Sharif set to be new PM.

    “The removal of Imran Khan as prime minister has set Pakistan on an uncertain political path, with his supporters taking to the streets in protest as the opposition prepares to install his replacement. Khan was brought down early on Sunday morning…”

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/4/11/imran-khan-removal-as-pm-triggers-protests-across-pakistan

    • Harry McGibbs says:

      “‘We’re finished’: Sri Lankans pushed to the brink by financial crisis.

      “While thousands of angry cries and anti-government slogans filled the streets of the Sri Lankan city Colombo on Saturday, Chanda Upul stood quietly nearby, desperately pushing his wares of soft drinks and bottled water on protesters. But in his heart he was chanting along with them.”

      https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/09/sri-lanka-financial-crisis-protesters-call-for-gotabaya-rajapaksa-resignation-please

      • Harry McGibbs says:

        “Tunisians protesters accuse president of ‘failed dictatorship’.

        “Tunisians on Sunday protested against President Kais Saied, accusing him of imposing one-man rule in the North African country after he dissolved parliament last month… Many members of parliament participated in the protest on Sunday…”

        https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/tunisians-protesters-accuse-president-failed-dictatorship-2022-04-10/

      • Fast Eddy says:

        There are those who think BAU Lite is feasible…

        As petrol became scarce and expensive, Upul was no longer able to afford repayments on his rented rickshaw and lost his only means of income. Now he and his four children survive on rice and water. Vegetables and milk powder are just too expensive these days.

        “The only thing we can do now is drink poison, we are finished,” said Upul. “I voted for Gota thinking he was a lion, now I can see that he is worse than a dog. I love my country but don’t know if there will be a country left for my children.”

        But before drinking poison … one should vent their frustration on ‘those who caused this disaster’…. skin the politicians and the wealthy alive …

        Let’s keep in mind what we are dealing with here… MOREONS.

        Imagine a government official or an oligarch trying to explain to a raging horde that he had nothing to do with the fact that they are feeding their children salted rice… and water out of the ditch…

        The MOREONS are dangerous — and when they are hungry that unhinges them … there is no talking sense to them in the best of times they are stooopid and irrational (how many times have we shown them that the covid vaccines are purposed to exterminate – but they insist on boosting..)

        So when they are hungry this only magnifies the MOREONISM..

        There is only one option — I know it — the Elders know it — and you know it … exterminate them before 8B of them start ripping faces and skinning you alive… exterminate them – with extreme prejudice.. CEP them.

        As we watch countries on the brink of skinning alive their leaders and elites… Bossche’s warning comes to mind … ‘within months – could be any day now’… and he urgently works to complete his scientific analysis of the risks of the leaky vaccines (poor Geert – they know the risks… it’s like taking a radar gun to the Indy 500 – and showing the organizers that the cars are speeding…)…

        It cannot wait too much longer — so Geert will Hit the Jackpot….

        Fortunately we can see that the Elders are completely in control of the timing on this…. they are orchestrating the beginning of the starvation – because that is part of the CEP… they are able to throttle back and forth on the remaining energy enough to ensure they do not lose control as we approach D-Day….

        Everything is going … according to the CEP. It is unlikely we will see Ripping of Faces or Skinning Alive of Scapegoats. But it sure would be fun to see some elites skinned alive before it all comes crashing down

        • i keep hearing about these ‘elders’

          why won’t someone tell me who they are

          is it such a big secret?

          am i the only person left on the planet who doesn’t know?

          • Fred says:

            Could be the 17 families who own most of the world.

            Could be the people behind Blackrock and Vanguard who control most major companies in the world.

            Could be the banking dynasty that runs most country’s central banks.

            Could be aliens who want to salvage our valuable real estate before we terminally f–k it up.

            Could be an advanced lifeform to whom we look like ants and who have their own reasons we can’t comprehend.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Good idea to step down… might save him from being skinned alive

  15. Harry McGibbs says:

    “East Africa faces crises as fuel, commodity prices go up raising the cost of living.

    “It has been a week of crises in East Africa, characterised by shortages of fuel and rising prices of consumer goods, as the region continued to shake off Covid-19 blues to revive state economies.”

    https://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/tea/business/east-africa-faces-crises-as-fuel-commodity-prices-go-up-3776846

  16. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Londoners’ cost of living is rising rapidly driven by the capital’s firms hiking prices at the quickest pace ever to stay afloat amid swelling costs…

    “Businesses across the capital and the UK are being stung by a higher tax burden and swelling operating costs on top of trying to repair their balance sheets after the pandemic dealt a heavy blow to their financials.”

    https://www.cityam.com/london-cost-of-living-soars-as-firms-raise-prices-amid-inflation-crunch/

    • Harry McGibbs says:

      “Dublin City Council urged motorists to avoid the Dublin Port area on Monday morning as truckers and hauliers began a protest expected to bring the capital city to a “standstill”.

      “Protesters against rising fuel costs started to gather at locations on the M1, M4, M7 and close to the M11/M50 junction at 3am on Monday before moving towards Dublin.”

      https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/truck-protest-in-dublin-routes-around-east-link-bridge-and-dublin-port-are-blocked-1.4849760

      • Harry McGibbs says:

        “40% of Belgian food producers to halt or reduce activity.

        “As the war in Ukraine rages on, fears for global food security are growing. Even from the relative stability of Belgium, consumers are already feeling the effects. Now, it’s producers who are sounding the alarm.”

        https://www.brusselstimes.com/215878/40-of-belgian-food-producers-to-halt-or-reduce-activity

        • Harry McGibbs says:

          “German retailer Aldi Nord to raise prices by 20-50% on Monday.

          “”Since the beginning of the war in Ukraine, we’re witnessing jumps in purchase prices that we have not experienced in this way before,” said spokesman Florian Scholbeck. Meanwhile, the German Retail Federation has warned that the price hikes are likely to continue in the coming days in almost all supermarkets…”

          https://www.aa.com.tr/en/economy/german-retailer-aldi-nord-to-raise-prices-by-20-50-on-monday/2554218

        • I would start getting worried in Europe.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            https://allthatsinteresting.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/ukrainian-famine-children-featured.jpg

            I am surprised that the PR Team is not referencing Holodomor… the Russians starved the Ukeleles … perhaps graphic starvation imagery would be too much for the MOREONS… given they are being prepped for a Global Holodomor.

            Hording is not of much use… it’s like hopping into a lifeboat in the middle of the ocean with a week of food and water — with thousands of others trying to climb out of the water into your boat… and no ships to come to the rescue… it might buy a bit of time before you die — or it might make you a target of the hordes…. either way you die.

            Really all you want is popcorn and some delicacies for your final meals… splurge on a case of good wine?

            As Bossche predicts ‘within a few months’… but he would not be surprised if Devil Covid hit tomorrow… it’s impossible to know … but we do know – the conditions are perfect….

            The anticipation … is killing me! hahahahahaaha Maybe I should get injected — just to help it along hahahahaha (no) norm – tell you what — you beg the shampoo girl to give you an extra dose… to make up for FE’s no.

            • MM says:

              About ” Ukeleles”:
              Some people try very hard to bring out the story that the Ukrainians treated the people in the Donbass region or now all Russians as “Untermenschen”.

              I do not see any different behaivour in using the phrase ” Ukeleles”.
              As lidiaseventen said, probably some “we” can not learn from history ?

            • Fast Eddy says:

              A person from Ukraine is referred to as a Ukelele… I am just following the long established custom

              Ukraine is an artificial construct… it has always been part of russia — perhaps that’s why they call themselves Ukeleles? Ask Zelensky https://www.onenewspage.com/video/20220302/14438627/Ukrainian-President-Volodymyr-Zelensky-in-gay-show.htm

              He’s a f789ing joke too. A fake president

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Same thing happened in Utopia… loads of strikes .. I guess the people who wrote that series… knew what was coming.

  17. Harry McGibbs says:

    “China Yield Premium Over U.S. Vanishes With More Outflows Seen.

    “China’s yield advantage over Treasuries disappeared for the first time in more than a decade, paving the way for more capital outflows to follow the recent record exodus from the Asian nation.”

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-04-11/china-yield-premium-over-u-s-vanishes-as-treasury-yields-spike

  18. Harry McGibbs says:

    “The credit ratings agency Standard & Poor’s has downgraded its assessment of Russia’s ability to repay foreign debt, signaling rising prospects that Moscow will soon default on external loans…

    “S&P Global Ratings issued the downgrade to “selective default” late Friday…”

    https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-business-europe-economy-foreign-debt-572b9a32691739fb6322fba4c301d9f1

  19. Fast Eddy says:

    Why do you have to tell them? Oh right they are MOREONS – they are unable to think – they must be told

    LAST week Sky News reported that parents were being warned ‘to check for signs’ after an ‘unusual’ spike in liver illness in under-tens.

    More than 70 children under the age of ten have been diagnosed with hepatitis. There have been about 60 cases in England, and in Scotland 11 have gone to hospital. Dr Meera Chand, director of clinical and emerging infections at the UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA), said: ‘Investigations for a wide range of potential causes are under way, including any possible links to infectious diseases.’

    Health managers in Scotland admitted that the speed with which the outbreak has moved, the severity of cases and geographical spread made it ‘unusual’ with cases diagnosed in Lanarkshire, Tayside, Greater Glasgow and Clyde, and Fife.

    Public Health Scotland (PHS) said: ‘There are currently no clear causes and no obvious connection between them.’ Have they checked?

    The cause that springs immediately and urgently to mind, the Covid vaccine, apparently has not occurred to them. Nor to the UKHSA who, one day later, sent an urgent alert to clinicians on a noted ‘increase in acute hepatitis cases of unknown aetiology in children’.

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/why-is-no-one-asking-if-childrens-liver-damage-is-linked-to-the-vaccine%ef%bf%bc/

  20. Fast Eddy says:

    Imagine how re t ar ded you’d have to be to have had a kid in the past two years hahahahahaha

    Infant formula is in short supply as US retailers begin rationing. A combination of COVID-19-related snarled supply chains and a major baby formula recall earlier this year exacerbated shortages.

    At least 29% of the top-selling baby formula products were out of stock by mid-March, according to an analysis by Datasembly, which tracked baby formula stock at 11,000 retailers.

    “This is a shocking number that you don’t see for other categories,” Ben Reich, CEO of Datasembly, told CBS News.

    “We’ve been tracking it over time and it’s going up dramatically. We see this category is being affected by economic conditions more dramatically than others,” Reich added.

    Now America’s second-largest pharmacy, Walgreens, with over 9,000 locations, announced it would ration baby formula. A spokesman for the company confirmed consumers are only limited to three baby formula products per transaction due to “increased demand and various supplier issues.”

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/baby-formula-shortage-hits-walgreens-rationing-begins

    • Fabian65 says:

      No MOREONS this time?

    • drb says:

      I am sometimes amazed at the low intellectual level of Fast Eddy. Infant formula is associated with all sorts of long term health problems, and this is bad news how? It goes right along with rationing of seed oils, associated with every known degenerative disease in the West, and which are incidentally one ingredient of said formula.

      • Kim says:

        There are better delivery methods for feeding infants, methods that jave the usually unremarked benefit of supporting proper development of the child’s face (maxilla, mandible and dental arch).

      • Fast Eddy says:

        You seem to think that Fast Eddy is consuming the milk powder.

        Best not to confuse Fast Eddy with the MOREONS — cuz if you continue to do that … Fast Eddy will find things in your other comments… often innocuous things that nobody else sees… and he will do something similar to what Hoolio does to rabbits…

        BTW – there are very few rabbits on the ranch now — and those that remain only come out very late at night… they live in fear of The Great Hoolio.

    • Rodster says:

      “My mother never breast fed me. She told me she only liked me as a friend”

      – Rodney Dangerfield

    • Nursing the baby becomes the choice for more mothers, if baby formula is not available. This is not all bad.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        That would not occur to them … but even if it did they are eating shrimp fed with sewage and laced with all sorts of toxic stuff… so they’d pass that to the baby

  21. Fast Eddy says:

    good – cancer!

    Video in Bitchute
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/Zj4JBYzPDAOk/

    More useless chanting … they need to get f ired up!

    https://t.me/VigilantFox/3899

    Why is Ukraine the only place we never get mobile phone violent vids? https://t.me/TommyRobinsonNews/34487

  22. Fast Eddy says:

    Over 4000 Women have now lost their baby due to the Covid Vaccine in the USA; this is a 16,633% increase on the number of Fetus deaths caused by the Flu Jabs since 1990

    In reality that number is much worse because many more flu jabs have been administered during pregnancy over a period of 30 years…

    https://dailyexpose.uk/2022/04/11/4000-women-lost-baby-covid-vaccine-usa/

  23. Fast Eddy says:

    Lara Logan: “Stop Paying the People Who Are Slitting Your Throats” 🔥

    “Stop using Facebook, stop using Twitter, stop using Instagram, stop using YouTube”

    https://rumble.com/v10jkhl-lara-logan-stop-paying-the-people-who-are-slitting-your-throats-.html

    hahahahaha … as if! They are MOREONS – they won’t listen… they want to be connected

  24. Fast Eddy says:

    Hahhahahaha – exterminate !!! exterminate !!!

    it also looks more and more like this is interacting with herd level antigenic fixation (something never before seen in humans to my knowledge) and is going to select for rapid evolution from variant to variant to spread using this OAS vector. if you have a large group with the same vulnerabilities who all do not adapt to new pathogens because they got fixated by vaccines, it’s a perfect lab to generate vaccine enhanced pathogens and they are going to become more and more specific to the vaccinated.

    this may make them not only the superspread vector that endangers everyone, but the group bearing the brunt of the bad outcomes as well.

    this poses serious issues as while viral evo favors high contagion and low virulence because killing the host is maladaptive to propagation, in a fixated herd, you’re rolling one set of very high stakes dice iteratively instead of aggregating 100’s of small stakes throws in a normal, heterogeneous population.

    https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/covid-is-becoming-increasingly-vaccine

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Government of Canada data suggests the Triple Vaccinated are suffering Antibody Dependent Enhancement; and Pfizer & the FDA knew it would happen

      “Official figures for Canada show the fully vaccinated are now over 4 times more likely to be infected with Covid-19, 1.5 times more likely to be hospitalised with Covid-19, and twice as likely to die of Covid-19 than the not-vaccinated…”

      https://dailyexpose.uk/2022/04/10/gov-canada-data-pfizer-vaccinated-suffering-ade/

      • Xabier says:

        Loads of triple-vaxxed I know have fallen sick since the injection, mild to nasty flu symptoms, none hospitalised (throat ulcers in one though, ugh!).

        They all did it so as to be able to go on holiday….

        Dumber than rats, the lot of ’em.

        • Mado says:

          Unfair comparison. Rats are actually pretty smart. I keep a few pet rats. They are charming and intelligent. On the other hand, a few of the triple-jabbed folks I know got much sicker from the jab than from the covid that they caught subsequently anyway.

          • Xabier says:

            I am in fact quite an admirer of the rat: I tender my apologies to the collective. ‘Dummer than sheep’ it is……

            • Yorchichan says:

              I’ve recommended it before, and I will again:

              Rat by Andrej Zaniewski

              In the book, you become the rat, from birth to death. It’s the most moving book I’ve ever read. (But then I’m a fan of all things rodent.)

  25. Fast Eddy says:

    Another example of the sea of MOREONS that inhabit the Earth …

    There a burger place in town – Ferg Burger — very average burgers — but pre Covid they had a roaring business going — apparently they made it big years ago when a Lonely Planet writer was out on a big night in QT and there was nowhere to get a snack during the wee hours…

    Someone sent him to Ferg (then it was a hole in the wall joint I am told… not particularly busy)… and being hungry that writer thought this was the best burger in the world – and said so in a review…

    Here’s how you know it’s not the best burger in the world – the owner has never franchised it — guess why – cuz he knows it would flop. Cuz it’s average at best.

    Yet it’s a must for the MOREONS who come to QT.. I’ve asked a few people who were hell bent on a Ferg Burger what they thought of it — every single one thought it was overrated…

    Yet them keep on coming …. well not so much now with Covid — the NZers have been there done that and realize it’s just not that good — and there is no fresh MOREON meat coming into the country following the hype…. so times must be tough for poor old Ferg.

  26. Fast Eddy says:

    “Martin Lewis warns ‘civil unrest isn’t far away’ due to cost of living” – Martin Lewis, who built a loyal following for his financial advice, said lower earners have nothing left to cut back on and that rising levels of inflation have left people unable to pay for food and heating

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10704763/Martin-Lewis-warns-civil-unrest-isnt-far-away-cost-living-crisis-grips-Britain.html

    It’s ok – GVB says Devil Covid isn’t far away

    Ok so you end up locking yourself down in a freezing cold apartment with your food stocks dwindling… hmmmm smells like —- extinction!

  27. Fast Eddy says:

    Britain is in the grips of another fuel crisis with one in three petrol stations in the south forced to shut after climate activists caused days of disruption at oil terminals

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10704779/Petrol-stations-fuel-shortage-Just-Stop-Oil-Extinction-Rebellion-protest-block-oil-depots.html

    You would have thought keeping petrol stations open would justify a bit of TG and a few beatings… but nahhhh… that’s saved for Covid Protests hahahaha

  28. Fast Eddy says:

    it has long been known that the covid vaccines were non-sterilizing. it has also been known, based on the countries like the UK that report the stats honestly that the vaccinated are at greater risk of contracting covid than the unvaxxed. this has even been known about the boosters.

    but where this gets really worrying is this: each new variant is seeing this relative risk rate rise and the rate of rise is accelerating. this is, unfortunately, exactly what one would predict as a leaky vaccine with a strong tendency to antigenically fixate those having received it drives viral evolution to prey upon this vulnerability. herd OAS replaces herd immunity and vaccine driven evolution does the rest.

    the UK data is getting really stark here. let’s look.

    https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/covid-is-becoming-increasingly-vaccine

  29. Fast Eddy says:

    covid is becoming increasingly vaccine enabled
    each iteration of variant is posing greater infection risk to the vaccinated relative to the unvaxxed. is this becoming vaccine fixation syndrome?

    https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/covid-is-becoming-increasingly-vaccine

    Not only do they continue to boost and block Ivermectin – many governments are no longer publishing data on deaths and hospitalizations involving the injected MOREONS

    Think about that — you can pretend that this is not about extermination — that will make everyone feel better — but come the f789 on … get real…

    They KNOW the injections are making the situation WORSE – they see the data – and they hide it – cuz they want to keep injecting … why do that – when you KNOW that makes everything worse?

    CEP. Dead – on – the – money.

  30. Wet My Beak says:

    Putin must now withdraw from the Ukraine! An unbeatable foe has joined the fight. Quiver Vladimir quiver in your boots.

    For today the horse with the name jacinta has committed new zealand troups to the war. Run Vladimir run!

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/128332017/new-zealand-to-send-air-force-hercules-to-europe-to-assist-ukraine-military-aid-effort

    These battle hardened shock troups are insurmountable. Trained from birth in the maori haka they will vanguish all before them with their tongue flicking dance. Gay, trans, bi-curious new age emotionally intelligent and woke you will hurt their feelings if you don’t leave now Vlad.

    The world will shake upon its axis.

  31. Fast Eddy says:

    See – you cannot unf789 https://t.me/chiefnerd/3172

    Notice how GVB says the only possible way to stop the catastrophe (the extinction actually – not sure if that’s a catastrophe haha..) is to mass distribute Ivermectin immediately … and stop injecting.

    What are they doing?

    – pushing even harder on the boosters

    – making it just about impossible to get Ivermectin

    – telling the MOREONS Ivermectin is a conspiracy theory

    Anyone still think this ain’t about extermination? Wake the f789 up.

  32. MG says:

    Why Hungary is so isolated in the EU and why Viktor Orbán does not share the same attitude towards Russian aggression in the Ukraine?

    The answer is simple: Hungarians are an ethnic group that is somewhat “lost” in the German and Slavic population of the Europe. This exacerbates their depopulation problem, their language is alien to both Germans and Slavs. They simply can not rely on the immigrant workers from the neighbouring countries anymore, as the supply of the ethnic Hungarians is declining in them.

    Thus their energy decline is faster and the Hungarians vote for a strong leader like the Russians vote for Vladimir Putin.

    It is a kind of paranoia of the disappearing nations that makes them aggressive. The WW1 was the time of the collapse of the Hungarian empire. The time after 1989 is the era of the collapse of the Russian empire.

    • Genomir says:

      Go enlist in Azov and spare us of your viled fascist bulshit

      • MG says:

        ???

      • MG says:

        The population of Ukraine has been declining, too.

        • Wet My Beak says:

          Yes, many Ukrainians are in England now where they have been embraced by taxpayers with open arms (and alms).

          As a United States occupied territory since 1945 England must bend to the will of that great intellect Joe Biden.

          • MG says:

            Why Joe Biden? Joe Biden is just an actor. There are advisors, collected data, computer modelling, AI etc.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            I’d be willing to house a 20 year female Ukeley — if she’s super hot like in the photos

      • Kim says:

        Fascists are nationalists, are they not?

        Yet the Azov regiment is controlled by jewish oligarchs, as indeed is Ukraine itself. And the israeli project for Ukraine is to more firmly estabkish it as Israel overseas.

        Doesn’t seem very nationalistic or fascist to me.

        Maybe the “nazis” of the Azov are in fact catspaws for Zionism?

    • Good points!

  33. Adrian says:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F530dxcB6_s
    DEADLIER VARIANTS? Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche On What To Expect In The Near Future And Why

    • Fast Eddy says:

      I can’t wait – Geert promises that’s what’s coming… Trust in Geert…

      Kinda like ‘trust the chef’…

  34. http://davecoop.net/seneca.htm shows the recently-released EIA figure for 2021 world crude oil extraction — up a little from 2020, but still way down from years previous to that.

    • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

      excellent.

      this is not good news for the Periphery, but the oil is still flowing abundantly in the Core.

      life is not fair.

      I love oil.

      • Sam says:

        I love oil too ……but how long before it hits the core….The core has manipulate and lied about currencies and markets at the expense of the periphery…..

  35. Fast Eddy says:

    Another 1700kg of coal stockpiled … two more pallets remain to be hauled…

    I Burn Shit

    BTW – I am holding on The Burn for now as summer is holding on — possibility that the first sack goes into the Rayburn on the weekend …

    https://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large-5/shay-4-5-11-and-6-bellowing-black-coal-smoke-mark-serfass.jpg

  36. Rodster says:

    The Earth Only Has A 3 Month Supply Of Food – If Production Stops Humanity Has Nothing To Eat “In 90 Days”

    http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/the-earth-only-has-a-3-month-supply-of-food-if-production-stops-humanity-has-nothing-to-eat-in-90-days/

    • If population falls to 1/4 of now, one year of food remaining

    • Fast Eddy says:

      90 days? I’m thinking if BAU went down now — as soon as people realized the power is not coming back on — they’d be ripping into the super markets and the shelves would be bare in a few hours…

      • Rodster says:

        That’s why I stocked up on popcorn, kernal oil, beach chair and sunglasses. The Nukes will be flying just to keep the food zombies from crashing the Palaces, around the world.

    • I am wondering whether the three-month supply is true or not.

      Some of our food supply is locally grown, and used to feed people in the area. Does this get included in the totals? Most food supply seems to be internationally traded food, which is less, probably, quite a lot less.

      Some parts of the world, such as India, have two or more crops a year. There is always new food growing to replace that that is being eaten.

      Animals that are still alive are part of the future food supply, as well.

  37. Tim Groves says:

    And now for some good news.

    Gail, you’re wrong about the direction society is going in.

    Norman, Eddy, Mirror, you are arguing about trivia and the one thing you all agree about—that we are dammed and doomed—is fundamentally in error, probably due to reading too many of Gail’s posts and Harry’s reports.

    At least, so says Jordan Peterson, who is as depressed and depressing as they come, but he says he’s optimistic about the future of people on this planet. He even thinks there’s room for another two billion of us.

    In this clip from a lecture at the University of Cambridge, Dr. Peterson answers a question from an audience member by explaining that the world is doing much better than we’ve been told. Zabier, were you in attendance? Did the mood of doom and gloom lift over the Bridge of Sighs as the great man spoke, or are the Cantabrigians as morbid as ever?

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Speaking of Delusional toss posts…

      I gave Smil another shot I downloaded Oil:

      Packed with fascinating facts and insight, this book will fuel dinner party debate and provide listeners with the science and politics behind the world’s most controversial resource. Without oil, there would be no globalisation, no plastic, little transport, and a global political landscape that few would recognise. It is the lifeblood of the modern world, and humanity’s dependence upon it looks set to continue for decades to come. In this captivating audiobook, Vaclav Smil explains all matters related to “black gold”, from its discovery in the earth, right through to the political maelstrom that surrounds it today.

      Within the first 15 minutes he claimed – there was plenty of oil remaining (despite 2005 seeing peak conventional) — that WW1 had nothing to do with ME oil resource control — and the biggest howler of all – the Iraq War was all about installing a democratically elected government in that volatile region and that the US forces did not touch the oil (even though it is common knowledge that they ring fenced the oil and let the Iraqi factions destroy the rest of the country)….

      Smil is a f789ing r et ard… a clown .. an im be cile… and now I have to waste time logging in the return that pc of useless shit … the saving grace is Audible … free returns.

    • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

      I didn’t know that he is Steve Pinker with shorter hair.

      that was in November 2021.

      very smart man, too bad he is undereducated in the full scope of OFW topics.

      the events of the past 5 months have surely let some gas out of his hopium balloon.

      I bet he doesn’t grasp the full significance of the downhill consequences of the “sanctions” and the Great Russian Reset.

      • Tim Groves says:

        I was thinking of clueing him in personally. But he has suffered greatly from depression already and I wouldn’t want to have his next nervous breakdown on my conscience.

    • Xabier says:

      I never attended lectures even as an undergraduate, Tim.

      Far too busy sipping champagne in a punt reading poetry, under the willows…..

      The Brideshead Revisited style was still in vogue then, halcyon days.

      There is no real style and panache here now, so no doubt they packed in for that lecture.

      I do regret not attending Juval Hariri when his tour came here: if he comes again I shall heckle the malign catamite of Davos.

    • Thanks for your attention getting comment. We have run into Jordan Peterson before, providing very optimizing views of the future then as now.

  38. Michael Le Merchant says:

    Azovstal – Black Hole Of Corona?

    Now Charges Of Azov Battalion Spreading Pathogens In China For The Breakout Of CoronaVirus Don’t Seem So Far-Fetched.
    https://georgewebb.substack.com/p/azovstal-black-hole-of-corona?s=r

    Tanks in Shanghai China. Lockdown on.

    • Very strange. Disturbing substack by George Webb saying that Ukraine played a part in spreading the COVID virus to China. Also, that Hunter Biden had an involvement in the Ukraine biowarfare effort.

      Tanks in Shanghai are disturbing. Not the situation anyone would want.

    • MM says:

      You’d need sand bags and a machine gun post besides food delivery places to mow down people. An artillery style tank does not match “the problem of too many people rioting” ?…

      Scare the West (TM).

      • Fast Eddy says:

        This is something I am keen to see… what does it take to push a large segment of the population to go Fully Unhinged… a situation where the police and military shoot them — and still they refuse to back down….

        I am interested to see if the police and military will be willing to kill thousands in an effort to quell the mayhem….

        Or if things are so grim in a country do the police and military turn towards the PTB in that country … and we get a coup instead?

        That wouldn’t change the dynamics because a new government would not be able to reset the economy….

        I am very interested to observe this unique situation — Harry – what’s happening in Sri Lanka?

  39. Michael Le Merchant says:

    Protests, Looting, Pets Destroyed and Mass Suicides in Shanghai China as People Starve During Lockdowns
    https://healthimpactnews.com/2022/protests-looting-pets-destroyed-and-mass-suicides-in-shanghai-china-as-people-starve-during-lockdowns/

    • I am afraid I didn’t want to look at the videos. It all sounds very disturbing. I have visited Shanghai. Like the material says, a very modern, huge city.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        It’s probably all fake … you won’t get PTSD if you peak

        I never get PTSD… I love carnage… I enjoy seeing stuff and people get blowed up … I am sure I could have been a great war photographer … I like to watch… I like the rush of adrenaline.. I like fire… and destruction … and danger …

      • Tim Groves says:

        I watched a lot of it. Probably mostly real, unfortunately. I strongly recommend you not to watch it if you have a weak stomach or are prone to nightmares.

        The suicides, I don’t know if they are part of the current situation or a compilation taken at different times and places. Remember all those factory buildings surrounded by nets to catch jumpers?

        The brutal rounding up and killing of pet dogs and cats and the callous cruel treatment of humans looks authentic and is nauseating to my bourgeois Western sensibilities. But this sort of thing is all too typical of what often happens in China when times are tough, as has been documented down the ages by civilized Chinese and barbarian foreign observers alike.

        Why bother to fake this kind of footage? There is plenty of thuggery, brutality and misery going on in China all the time. And plenty of smartphones to record it.

      • MM says:

        Very wise Gail. We should not degrade our souls with watching the suffering but embrace the good things in life or send some good thoughts to these poor people. The Fast still has a way to go but I have the impression that in principle he has a capavity to learn.
        On the other hand, he has the capability to dig out interesting stuff sometimes 😉

        • Fast Eddy says:

          What’s the difference between watching a video of someone crushing cockroaches vs people jumping off buildings?

          Call me a psychopath but I really don’t see any difference.

          The thing is…

          I am not a psychopath — I truly feel for those animals that are packed into the death camp trucks that leave the gulags … and are delivered to the slaughterhouse… I find the entire thing horrifying … Imagine if that was you – or your kids (veal…)

          And then those animal experiments… that’s a living horror show that happens thousands of times per day… I’d much rather watch MOREONS jumping from buildings than animals being tortured so that women and trannies can have makeup that doesn’t irritate their eyes and skin..

          How about I locked your head in a box and fill it with biting insects? Oh but first I need to cut your vocal cords cuz it inconveniences me to hear you scream in agony….

          Remember in 1984 they put his head in a box with a rat? hahahaha… now that is funny! I don’t mind if we experiment on each other… we need to rip up the Nuremberg code then rewrite it

          Not OK to experiment on animals.

          Totally OK to experiment on humans.

          It’s only fair. No?

          The best and only solution to this — is … nope not veganism… it’s extermination …

          Every single last human– needs to GO. gogogogogogogogogo

          • Yorchichan says:

            I’ve had this argument lots of times with people. Apparently, it’s ok for us to torture animals because we have a “higher consciousness” than them. But who gets to decide what constitutes a higher consciousness? Does being better at solving maths puzzles make for higher consciousness? That’s a very anthropocentric point of view. Why doesn’t my hamster’s vastly superior sense of smell mean he has a higher consciousness than me?

    • Ed says:

      Why the heavy handed lock-down??? If one wants make people go out to the grocery only one day per week. A-E on Monday, F-J on Tuesday, ….

      If you really must break it down by time
      A-B 9am to noon
      C-D noon to 3pm
      E 3pm-6pm

      No food makes no sense unless you want to start a revolution.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Especially when there are loads of studies that prove lockdowns are futile…

        Oh and they said Omicron was mild… like a cold ..

        And surely China must be nearly 100% injected and they said you won’t end up in hospital or dead if you boost up…

        So … why the lockdown?

        cuz.

    • Ed says:

      This is looking like a psyop. That is completely nonfactual. .

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Funny – all these videos of people who have hung themselves… odd that they’d hang themselves outside of their apartments like that — and hardly nuthin from the Ukelelys

    • Wet My Beak says:

      Having created the virus (with American funding) there are mildly satisfying karmic sequelae occurring here.

      Many chinee peoples have invaded sad new Zealand in recent times. They open restaurants selling chinee food. Then the Fluffies and Tabbies start to go missing.

      If one stays awake into the early hours and walks around the neighbourhood you can see the chinee with their meat cleavers hunting from the shadows.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        In China they raise shrimp ponds out back and thrown their piss and shit in the ponds to feed them…

        China is a f789ing open sewer … I wouldn’t eat anything that comes out of China… they are so f789ed up that they’d spray a crop with cyanide if they could make more cash … cuz they need the cash to go to karaoke to shag 12 year old village girls.

        Notice how they sell ground up plastic as milk powder for babies? WTF. If you will do that you will do anything – including putting cats into meat grinders and selling it as chicken

        If I had my way I’d nuke China out of existence… it’s a country filled with zombies and commies.

  40. Michael Le Merchant says:

    Former CDC Director Robert Redfield has stated that Bird Flu will jump to humans and be highly fatal in the coming “Great Pandemic,” for which C19 was a mere warm-up.
    https://www.iceagefarmer.com/author/iceagefarmer/

    • Unfortunately, what a person worries about is that some scientists, somewhere, have been working on developing a way to make this happen. Or perhaps I am getting paranoid.

      • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

        justifiably paranoid.

        • Student says:

          Or also, open to reasonable possibilites given the very strange current situation.

      • Tsubion says:

        I would worry a lot more about what gets put in the jabs and in our food supply and household products than supposed pathogenic viruses “jumping” from animal species to humans since the latter has never been proven to happen and defies basic understanding of biology.

        Whatever is synthesized in the biolabs is more likely to end up in jabs than to float through the air and bypass all the natural barriers that basically keep us healthy.

  41. Fast Eddy says:

    46ish minute mark … https://streamyard.com/ru4v72udbce5

  42. You can’t really go to the next stage of civilization without gentlemen scientists

    Dennis is optimistic and still believes in some kind of ‘alumni of Tesla’ or something like that, where ex-employees of a unicorn company supposedly continue to have a meeting of minds, admitting them to some kind of society.

    In reality, the hired guns who are paid a certain amount of salary to do the work do not make enough profits to justify their effort. It is much more fun trading stonks without having to answer to bosses.

    Elsewhere, I had suggested that before Hsue-Shen Tsien was allowed to return to People’s Republic of China, a lobotomy should have been performed on him just before he was allowed to board the plane to Peking.

    In Pinyin he is known as Qian Xuesen, also known as the man who built China’s first rockets and missiles. He was denied US citizenship because of his many connection to the mainland; he did not hold any stake in modern civilization but he was allowed to know too much which led to a problem which has not been solved to this day.

    Lobotomizing him would have significantly retarded China’s entry to the space age.

    We can’t really expect those who do not expect to hold a stake in the future civilization to invent things in which they will play no part of. If anything they won’t get credit for their invention, like Wallace Carothers who invented nylon, made his employer Du Pont make billions out of it, and not seeing a penny himself and being driven to suicide. The future they will help creating won’t have themselves on it.

    If the researchers come from the same civilization as those who would benefit from it, they might see what they are doing as noble sacrifices. However in nowdays many of the researchers have nothing to do with those who are likely to benefit from their work, and so they would rather mess things up as long as humanly possible and continue to collect salary.

    • Dennis L. says:

      There are many things which I have done and are done not out of expectation of reward but because it gives something for those who follow to build upon. This why we are where we are, some did not live for the moment, you only go around once, etc.

      “We can’t really expect those who do not expect to hold a stake in the future civilization to invent things in which they will play no part of.” I disagree strongly, for those who think such I would propose they be given no prior knowledge at all, they would invent everything plus supply all the necessary capital out of their own sweat.

      There really are only a handful of people who can be truly unique, Elon is one of them; for the rest going along for the ride is as good as it gets. Without the Elons, there is the drudgery of BS jobs.

      Dennis L.

      • necessary capital? Where is it coming from?

        Their own sweat? To be owned by someone else who gets rich off their backs?

        Maybe true half a century ago. Not now. The hapless Asian engineers working for Musk won’t create any game changers.

        • Dennis L. says:

          Kul,

          Thus it has always been. Building a company and employing people is incredibly difficult, we live as a group, some of us get great hands, some not so great; it is life.

          It hurts to be used, somehow one learns to live with the pain and make the best of it. At is only in the last twenty or so years the phrase, “You can be anything you put your mind to” has become popular. For most of us, that is false.

          A good woman helps, Asian women seem to have an understanding of the disappointments in life.

          Dennis L.

  43. Ed says:

    No government can produce a vision of the future.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7P3rDXrVQ0

    24 minute mark

    • The speaker starts, at the 24 minute mark, to talk about China being the only country that has attempted to put together a long-range vision of the future.

      It is clear, if we think about it, that running away from fossil fuels and climate change does not produce a future that comes anywhere close to supporting our current population.

  44. Yoshua says:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FP_JICaX0AIwIom?format=png&name=large

    The global bond market started to tank and yields started to spike when the central banks stopped expanding their balance sheets.

    They must continue with QE.

    • I agree, but it might be worse than that. Not only must central banks continue with QE, but they must keep adding QE debt at a relatively high rate. Also, the bond market as a whole must keep adding new debt at a relatively high rate, to keep the system going.

      The slowdown in the growth of debt is likely to lead to debt defaults. This, by itself, could collapse the debt bubble and lead to a major recession.

  45. Yorchichan says:

    Well, that didn’t take long:

    https://nationalpost.com/pmn/sports-pmn/atp-roundup-david-goffin-rallies-to-win-marrakech-title

    The season’s third ATP Masters 1000 event, the first on clay, got underway with four matches in the main draw in Monaco.

    In the only contest involving a seeded player, Bulgaria’s Grigor Dimitrov was leading 6-3, 2-0 when No. 15 seed Nikoloz Basilashvili of Georgia retired due to breathing issues and chest pain.

    • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

      time to up his meds.

      maybe a half bottle of aspirin before his next match.

      1. there has never been a successful coronavirus vaccine.

      2. there never ever will be.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      hahahaha…

      mike – “it’s not the vaccine – this happens all the time in tennis — it’s probably another rib injury – like Nadal”

      hahahahahahaahahahahahaha

    • Dennis L. says:

      Something does seem to be wrong, too many occurrences of this sort of thing. One can hope it is isolated and going forward there will be diminished issues; even for me, that one is a reach.

      Dennis L.

  46. Herbie Ficklestein says:

    PHOENIX (AP) — Karla Finocchio’s slide into homelessness began when she split with her partner of 18 years and temporarily moved in with a cousin.

    The 55-year-old planned to use her $800-a-month disability check to get an apartment after back surgery. But she soon was sleeping in her old pickup protected by her German Shepherd mix Scrappy, unable to afford housing in Phoenix, where median monthly rents soared 33% during the coronavirus pandemic to over $1,220 for a one-bedroom, according to ApartmentList.com.

    Finocchio is one face of America’s graying homeless population, a rapidly expanding group of destitute and desperate people 50 and older suddenly without a permanent home after a job loss, divorce, family death or health crisis during a pandemic.

    “We’re seeing a huge boom in senior homelessness,” said Kendra Hendry, a caseworker at Arizona’s largest shelter, where older people make up about 30% of those staying there. “These are not necessarily people who have mental illness or substance abuse problems. They are people being pushed into the streets by rising rents.”

    Oliver Twist here we come…

    • I don’t think that the economic system is producing enough output that everyone can expect to have his or her own apartment.

      In poorer countries, large groups of people share relatively small spaces. We probably need to be thinking along those lines as well.

      But to make that kind of arrangement work, people need to respectful of others in their group. They can’t have many possessions. They can’t want their own television station blaring. Food arrangements need to be thought out carefully. I am not certain that we really can transition in that direction.

      • Kim says:

        It will be done at the point of a spoon.

      • D. Stevens says:

        They also can’t own a pet dog.. maybe they can afford a pet rock? It’s insane to me that someone with a $800 a month income and having trouble finding an apartment/roommates would try to also keep a dog.

  47. Mirror on the wall says:

    (exit polls)

    > French election first round projections, released by Belgian and Swiss media:

    Emmanuel Macron: 24%
    Marine Le Pen: 24%
    Jean-Luc Melenchon: 19%

    • Mirror on the wall says:

      > According to an almost-complete count, Macron beat Le Pen by around 28 percent to 23 percent in Sunday’s first-round of voting. The two will now face off in….

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