Why No Politician Is Willing to Tell Us the Real Energy Story

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No politician wants to tell us the real story of fossil fuel depletion. The real story is that we are already running short of oil, coal and natural gas because the direct and indirect costs of extraction are reaching a point where the selling price of food and other basic necessities needs to be unacceptably high to make the overall economic system work. At the same time, wind and solar and other “clean energy” sources are nowhere nearly able to substitute for the quantity of fossil fuels being lost.

This unfortunate energy story is essentially a physics problem. Energy per capita and, in fact, resources per capita, must stay high enough for an economy’s growing population. When this does not happen, history shows that civilizations tend to collapse.

Figure 1. World fossil fuel energy consumption per capita, based on data of BP’s 2022 Statistical Review of World Energy.

Politicians cannot possibly admit that today’s world economy is headed for collapse, in a way similar to that of prior civilizations. Instead, they need to provide the illusion that they are in charge. The self-organizing system somehow leads politicians to put forward reasons why the changes ahead might be desirable (to avert climate change), or at least temporary (because of sanctions against Russia).

In this post, I will try to try to explain at least a few of the issues involved.

[1] Citizens around the world can sense that something is very wrong. It looks like the economy may be headed for a serious recession in the near term.

Figure 2. Index of consumer sentiment and news heard of company changes as reported by the University of Michigan Survey of Consumers, based on preliminary indications for August 2022.

Consumer sentiment is at an extraordinarily low level, worse than during the 2008-2009 great recession according to a chart (Figure 2) shown on the University of Michigan Survey of Consumers website. According to the same website, nearly 48% of consumers blame inflation for eroding their standard of living. Food prices have risen significantly. Over the past year, the cost of car ownership has escalated, as has the cost of buying or renting a home.

The situation in Europe is at least as bad, or worse. Citizens are worried about possibly “freezing in the dark” this winter if electricity generation cannot be maintained at an adequate level. Natural gas supplies, mostly purchased from Russia by pipeline, are less available and high-priced. Coal is also high-priced. Because of the fall of the Euro relative to the US dollar, the price of oil in euros is as high as it was in 2008 and 2012.

Figure 3. Inflation-adjusted Brent crude oil price in US dollars and euros, in chart by the US Energy Information Administration, as published in EIA’s August 2022 Short Term Energy Outlook.

Many other countries, besides those in the Eurozone, are experiencing low currencies relative to the dollar. Some examples include Argentina, India, Pakistan, Nigeria, Turkey, Japan, and South Korea.

China has problems with developers of condominium homes for its citizen. Many of these homes cannot be delivered to purchasers as promised. As a protest, buyers are withholding payments on their unfinished homes. To make matters worse, the prices of condominium homes have started to fall, leading to a loss of value of these would-be investments. All of this could lead to serious problems for the Chinese banking industry.

Even with these major problems, central banks in the US, the UK and the Eurozone are raising target interest rates. The US is also implementing Quantitative Tightening, which also tends to raise interest rates. Thus, central banks are intentionally raising the cost of borrowing. It doesn’t take much insight to see that the combination of price inflation and higher borrowing costs is likely to force consumers to cut back on spending, leading to recession.

[2] Politicians will avoid talking about possible future economic problems related to inadequate energy supply.

Politicians want to get re-elected. They want citizens to think that everything is OK. If there are energy supply problems, they need to be framed as being temporary, perhaps related to the war in Ukraine. Alternatively, any issue that arises will be discussed as if it can easily be fixed with new legislation and perhaps a little more debt.

Businesses also want to minimize problems. They want citizens to place orders for their goods and services, without the fear of being laid off. They would like the news media to publish stories saying that any economic dip is likely to be very mild and temporary.

Universities don’t mind problems, but they want the problems to be framed as solvable ones that will offer their students opportunities for jobs that will pay well. A near-term, unsolvable predicament is not helpful at all.

[3] What is wrong is a physics problem. The operation of our economy requires energy of the correct type and the right quantity.

The economy is something that grows through the “dissipation” of energy. Examples of dissipation of energy include the digestion of food to give energy to humans, the burning of fossil fuels, and the use of electricity to power a light bulb. A rise in world energy consumption is highly correlated with growth in the world economy. Falling energy consumption is associated with economic contraction.

Figure 4. Correlation between world GDP measured in “Purchasing Power Parity” (PPP) 2017 International $ and world energy consumption, including both fossil fuels and renewables. GDP is as reported by the World Bank for 1990 through 2021 as of July 26, 2022; total energy consumption is as reported by BP in its 2022 Statistical Review of World Energy.

In physics terms, the world economy is a dissipative structure, just as all plants, animals and ecosystems are. All dissipative structures have finite lifespans, including the world economy.

This finding is not well known because academic researchers seem to operate in ivory towers. Researchers in economic departments aren’t expected to understand physics and how it applies to the economy. In fairness to academia, the discovery that the economy is a dissipative structure did not occur until 1996. It takes a long time for findings to filter through from one department to another. Even now, I am one of a very small number of people in the world writing about this issue.

Also, economic researchers are not expected to study the history of the many smaller, more-localized civilizations that have collapsed in the past. Typically, the population of these smaller civilizations increased at the same time as the resources used by the population started to degrade. The use of technology, such as dams to redirect water flows, may have helped for a while, but eventually this was not enough. The combination of declining availability of high quality resources and increasing population tended to leave these civilizations with little margin for dealing with the bad times that can be expected to occur by chance. In many cases, such civilizations collapsed after disease epidemics, a military invasion, or a climate fluctuation that led to a series of crop failures.

[4] Many people have been confused by common misunderstandings regarding how an economy really works.

[a] Standard economics models foster the belief that the economy can continue to grow without a corresponding increase in energy supply.

When economic models are designed with labor and capital being the important inputs, energy supply doesn’t seem to be needed, at all.

[b] People seem to understand that legislation capping apartment rents will stop the building of new apartments, but they do not make the same connection with steps taken to hold down fossil fuel prices.

If efforts are made to bring down the prices of fossil fuels (such as raising interest rates and adding oil from the US petroleum reserves to increase total oil supply), we need to expect that extraction will be adversely affected. One article reports that Saudi Arabia does not seem to be using recent record profits to quickly raise reinvestment to the level that seemed to be required a few years ago. This suggests that Saudi Arabia needs prices that are quite a bit higher than $100 per barrel in order to take significant steps toward extracting the country’s remaining resources. This would seem to contradict published reserves that, in theory, take current prices into consideration.

Reuters reports that Venezuela has reneged on its promise to send more oil to Europe, under an oil for debt deal. It wants oil product swaps instead, since it is lacking in its ability to make finished products from its oil itself. It would take a long run of prices much higher than today’s level for Venezuela to be able to sufficiently invest in infrastructure to do such refining. Venezuela reports the highest oil reserves in the world (303.8 thousand million barrels), even higher than Saudi Arabia’s reported 297.5 thousand million barrels, but neither country can be counted on to take major steps to raise supply.

Similarly, there have been reports that US shale drillers are not investing to keep production growing, despite what seem to be sufficiently high prices. There are simply too many issues. The cost of new investment is very high, outside of the already drilled sweet spots. Also, there is no guarantee the price will stay high. There are also supply line issues, such as whether appropriate steel drilling pipes and fracking sand will be available, when needed.

[c] Published information suggests that there is a huge amount of fossil fuels remaining to be extracted, given today’s level of technology. If we assume that technology will get better and better, it is easy to believe that any fossil fuel limit is hundreds of years in the future.

The way the economy works, the extraction limit is really an affordability issue. If the cost of extraction rises too high, relative to what people around the world have for spendable income, production will stop because demand (in terms of what people can afford) will drop too low. People will tend to cut back on discretionary spending, such as vacation travel and meals in restaurants, cutting back on demand for fossil fuels.

[d] How “demand” works is poorly understood. Very often, researchers and the general public assume that demand for energy products will automatically remain high.

A surprisingly large share of demand is tied to the need for food, water, and basic services such as schools, roads, and bus service. Poor people require these basics just as much as rich people do. There are literally billions of poor people in the world. If the wages of poor people fall too low relative to the wages of rich people, the system cannot work. Poor people find that they must spend nearly all their income on food, water and housing. As a result, they have little left to pay taxes to support basic governmental services. Without adequate demand from poor people, the prices of commodities tend to fall too low to encourage reinvestment.

The majority of fossil fuel use is by commercial and industrial users. For example, natural gas is often used in making nitrogen fertilizer. If the price of natural gas is high, the price of fertilizer will rise higher than farmers are willing to pay for the fertilizer. Farmers will cut back on fertilizer use, reducing yields for their crops. The farmers’ own costs will be lower, but there will be less of the desired crops grown, perhaps indirectly raising overall food prices. This is not a connection that economic modelers build into their models.

The lockdowns of 2020 show that governments can indeed ramp up demand (and thus prices) for energy products by sending out checks to citizens. We are now seeing that the approach seems to produce inflation rather than more energy production. Also, countries without energy resources of their own may see their currencies fall with respect to the US dollar.

[e] It is not true that energy types can easily be substituted for one another.

In energy modeling, such as in calculating “Energy Return on Energy Invested,” a popular assumption is that all energy is substitutable for other energy. This isn’t true, unless a person accounts for all of the details of the transition, and the energy needed to make such a transition possible.

For example, intermittent electricity, such as that generated by wind turbines or solar panels, is not substitutable for load-following electricity. Such intermittent electricity is not always available when people need it. Some of this intermittency is very long-term. For example, wind-generated electricity may be low for more than a month at a time. In the case of solar energy, the problem tends to be storing up enough electricity during summer months for use in winter. A naive person might assume that adding a few hours of battery backup would fix intermittency problems, but such a fix turns out to be very inadequate.

If people are not to freeze in the dark in winter, longer-term solutions are needed. One standard approach is to use a fossil fuel system to fill in the gaps when wind and solar are not available. The catch, then, is that the fossil fuel system really needs to be a year-around system, with trained staffing, pipelines and adequate fuel storage. A modeler needs to consider the need to build a whole double system instead of a single system.

Because of intermittency issues, electricity from wind and solar only substitute for fuels (coal, natural gas, uranium) that operate our current system. Publications often talk about the cost of intermittent electricity being at “grid parity” when its temporary cost seems to match the cost of grid electricity, but this is matching “apples and oranges.” The cost comparison needs to be in comparison to the average cost of fuel for plants producing electricity, rather than to electricity prices.

Another popular assumption is that electricity can be substituted for liquid fuels. For example, in theory, every piece of farm equipment could be redesigned and rebuilt to be based on electricity, rather than diesel, which is typically used today. The catch is that there would need to be an enormous number of batteries built and eventually disposed of for this transition to work. There would need also need to be factories to build all this new equipment. We would need an international trade system operating extraordinarily well, to find all the raw materials. Likely, there would still not be enough raw materials to make the system work.

[f] There is a great deal of confusion about expected oil and other energy prices, as an economy reaches energy limits.

This issue is closely related to [4][d], with respect to the confusion about how energy demand works. A common assumption among analysts is that “of course” oil prices will rise, as limits are approached. This assumption is based on the standard supply and demand curve used by economists.

Figure 5. Standard economic supply and demand curve from Wikipedia. Description of how this curve works: The price P of a product is determined by a balance between production at each price (supply S) and the desires of those with purchasing power at each price (demand D). The diagram shows a positive shift in demand from D1 to D2, resulting in an increase in price (P) and quantity sold (Q) of the product.

The issue is that the availability of inexpensive energy products very much affects demand as well as supply. Jobs that pay well are only available if inexpensive energy products can leverage human labor. For example, surgeons today perform robotic surgery, requiring, at a minimum, a stable source of electricity for each operation. Furthermore, the equipment used in the surgery is created using fossil fuels. Surgeons also use anesthetic products that require fossil fuels. Without today’s fancy equipment, surgeons would not be able to charge nearly as much they do for their services.

Thus, it is not immediately obvious whether demand or supply would tend to fall faster, if energy supply should hit limits. We know that Revelation 18:11-13 in the Bible provides a list of a number of commodities, including humans sold as slaves, for which prices dropped very low at the time of the collapse of ancient Babylon. This suggests that at least sometimes during prior collapses, the problem was too low demand (and too low prices), rather than too low supply of energy products.

[5] The International Energy Agency and politicians around the world have recommended a transition to the use of wind and solar to try to prevent climate change for quite a few years. This approach seemed to have the approval of both those concerned about too much burning of fossil fuels causing climate change and those concerned about too little fossil fuel energy causing economic collapse.

A rough estimate of what the decline in energy supply might look like under the rapid shift to renewables proposed by politicians is shown in Figure 6.

Figure 6. Estimate by Gail Tverberg of World Energy Consumption from 1820 to 2050. Amounts for earliest years based on estimates in Vaclav Smil’s book Energy Transitions: History, Requirements and Prospectsand BP’s 2020 Statistical Review of World Energy for the years 1965 to 2019. Energy consumption for 2020 is estimated to be 5% below that for 2019. Energy for years after 2020 is assumed to fall by 6.6% per year, so that the amount reaches a level similar to renewables only by 2050. Amounts shown include more use of local energy products (wood and animal dung) than BP includes.

If a person understands the connection between energy consumption and the economy, such a rapid drop in energy supply looks like something that would likely be associated with economic collapse. The goal of politicians seems to be to keep citizens from understanding how awful the situation really is by reframing the story of the decline in energy supply as something politicians and economists have chosen to do, to try to prevent climate change for the sake of future generations.

The rich and powerful can see this change as a good thing if they themselves can profit from it. When there is not enough energy, the physics of the situation tends to lead to increasing wage and wealth disparities. Wealthy individuals see this outcome as a good thing: They can perhaps personally profit. For example, Bill Gates has amassed about 270,000 acres of farmland in the United States, including newly purchased farmland in North Dakota.

Furthermore, politicians see that they can have more control over populations if they can direct citizens in a way that will use less energy. For example, bank accounts can be linked to some type of social credit score. Politicians will explain that this is for people’s own good–to prevent the spread of disease or to prevent undesirables from using too much of the available resources.

One way of dramatically reducing energy consumption is by mandating shutdowns in an area, purportedly to prevent the spread of Covid-19, as China has been doing recently. Such shutdowns can be explained as being needed to stop the spread of disease. These shutdowns can also help hide other problems, such as not having enough fuels to prevent rolling blackouts of electricity.

[6] We are living in a truly unusual time, with a major energy problem being hidden from view.

Politicians cannot tell the world how bad the energy situation really is. The problem with near-term energy limits has been known since at least 1956 (M. King Hubbert) and 1957 (Hyman Rickover). The problem was confirmed in the modeling performed for the 1972 book, The Limits to Growth by Donella Meadows and others.

Most high-level politicians are aware of the energy supply issue, but they cannot possibly talk about it. Instead, they choose to talk about what would happen if the economy were allowed to speed ahead without limits, and how bad the consequences of that might be.

Militaries around the world are no doubt well aware of the fact that there will not be enough energy supplies to go around. This means that the world will be in a contest for who gets how much. In a war-like setting, we should not be surprised if communications are carefully controlled. The views we can expect to hear loudly and repeatedly are the ones governments and influential individuals want ordinary citizens to hear.

About Gail Tverberg

My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
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4,427 Responses to Why No Politician Is Willing to Tell Us the Real Energy Story

  1. Mirror on the wall says:

    Tim, I agree, it would be entirely normal for people to be outraged by the appalling machinations of the state, especially with regard to minors.

    The way that some posters ignored that issue and turned it into an attack on me was just surreal.

    Maybe they were simply motivated by more or less open racism, and a desire to project the fault away from where it lay to where it did not.

    The amount of stuff that goes on on here, the attempt to single me out was just bizarre.

    Maybe they need to look at themselves instead?

    • Tim Groves says:

      There is a lot of winding up going on among the naughty schoolboys here in Mrs Tverberg’s class. The girls are better behaved. A lot of it is personal attacks on people with opposing views, because since we don’t meet personally, what else do we have to go on?

      When I was in the first and second year at secondary school (equivalent to junior high school in the US), the bullying could be brutal. The bullies would pick on small boys, ginger haired and freckled boys, boys with buck teeth, boys who stuttered, boys who looked effeminate, and ethnic minorities—that went without saying. The bullies were merciless. Their aim was total humiliation. Make the victim perform tricks, or even better, break down and cry.

      I dare say things are worse in the US prison system. 🙂

      I get the sense that there’s an element of the residual schoolboy bully in some of our commentariat. I really believe the “tormenters” mean no real harm but are just playing psychological games because “they’re like that”. But if bothers you, as it bothers me occasionally, you can help yourself by treating it as a mostly friendly game, and training yourself not to react angrily to it even if you sense it as an attack. If you can do that, two things will happen: (1) you will feel better because you won’t have to waste any mental energy trying to work out why they are attacking you; and (2) you will feel better because you will be depriving them of the satisfaction they get knowing that they’ve managed to trigger you.

      If you look at Eddy and Norman going at it, day after day and year after year, like a married couple, you might think they despised each other. On one level, they are obviously each trying to upset the other one, and yet in all these years, neither of them has ever given any indication that they ever got upset, because to do that would be to lose the game. It takes two to play that game, and they have a good rapport going.

  2. Dennis L. says:

    A bit of levity with a dash of truth:

    https://cms.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/FbVKYGHWYAAtjwl.png?itok=GcpvOqK0

    Dennis L.

    • I am afraid the image is about correct. Increasingly, the colleges are getting to e where young women go to get a degree in teaching or in subjects that are not too technical. There are some men in engineering and in computer science programs at universities, but not a huge number elsewhere, because of the difficulty in finding jobs that pay well. Becoming an apprentice at electrical work or carpentry can be a good training route, especially for men.

      • Sam says:

        Why does everyone always say apprentice as an electrician!!! In the United States the other trades are making much more!!!
        I get so sick of white collar people thinking the understand the trades… ie.. job security etc…

  3. Mirror on the wall says:

    Just wow.

    > UK inflation could hit 22% on high energy prices, Goldman Sachs warns

    Goldman Sachs has predicted that UK inflation could hit 22% next year, if spiralling gas prices fail to fall back.
    In a note on Monday, Goldman economists led by Sven Jari Stehn said that if prices stayed at current peaks, the UK will be forced to increase its energy cap by a further 80% in January.
    That would be on top of October’s 80% increase in the cap, which is lifting average dual fuel bills to £3,549 per year.
    If it happened, Goldman calculates it would push inflation to 22.4%, a really grim outcome, and and trigger a 3.4% decline in GDP.

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2022/aug/30/pound-uk-recession-economy-mortgages-energy-market-gas-business-live

    > Energy crisis: UK households worst hit in western Europe, finds IMF

    The energy crisis is hitting UK household budgets harder than any country in western Europe, according to analysis by the International Monetary Fund. The difference between the cost burden on poor and rich households is also far more unequal in the UK compared with other countries.
    The reason is the UK’s heavy reliance on gas to heat homes and produce electricity at a time when Russia’s war in Ukraine has sent gas prices soaring. In addition, the UK has the least energy efficient homes in western Europe.
    The IMF analysis assessed the impact of the energy crisis expected over the whole of 2022, based on forward fossil fuel prices in May, since when prices have risen. It found that the average UK household is expected to lose 8.3% of its total spending power in 2022, as a result of having to pay higher energy bills. The figure in Germany and Spain is 4%, while only Estonian and Czech households face higher impacts than the UK in the whole of Europe.

    https://www.theguardian.com/money/2022/sep/01/energy-crisis-uk-households-worst-hit-in-western-europe-finds-imf

    • At this point, the writers are more worried about high prices for electricity than they are about electrical supply not being available when needed.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Xanax sales must be spiking …

      I was at a gathering earlier — the hordes are definitely getting anxious about these stories out of the UK and Europe… there was discussions of 1. solar panels 2. organizing a meeting to identify who has what in terms of resources should there be some sort of severe emergency (we are a small community of maybe 50 households in this area). I listened with minimal interest.

  4. el mar says:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af7v5hpS4aQ

    Annalena B., my care taking minister – cold as ice!

    Saludos

    el mar

  5. CTG says:

    China Puts Megacity Chengdu Under Lockdown As Zero-Covid Intensifies

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/china-puts-megacity-chengdu-under-lockdown-zero-covid-intensifies

    It is really getting stale

    • If China has a lot of problems, it is convenient to blame Covid and reduce demand. This helps hold down world fossil fuel prices.

      • If you ‘shut down’, say, 10 m people, those 10m people cannot ‘produce’.

        If they cannot ‘produce’—then they are in a state of ‘negativity’–ie the nation as a whole must still feed and sustain them, without their counterbalance of ‘production and export’ into the national economic system.

        This requires energy input, specifically oil coal and gas.

        So ‘demand’ is still there. Though maybe on a different level–I can’t see how it is reduced by much, if at all.

        If 10m people become a burden on everyone else, can someone explain how this ‘reduces demand’?

    • Dennis L. says:

      CTG,
      Three alternatives:
      1. vaccinate
      2. natural immunity
      3. lockdown

      So little real data regarding this issue, hard to make good decisions. Lockdown may be as good as vaccination over a relatively short period of time. Guess on my part.

      Overall, war, pandemic, etc. lack of supply seems the most consistent meme. Perhaps we are just out of stuff.

      Dennis L.

      • Lidia17 says:

        “so little real data..”

        Dennis, there’s oodles of data.
        Don’t be daft.
        You know why this is all happening.

        There’s some kind of switch that hasn’t gone off in your head yet: politicians and bureaucrats are not in their positions to make “good decisions” on our behalf. If on the off chance it turns out that way, it’s just their poor luck.

        • Xabier says:

          Tim Morgan certainly needs the same switch flipped as well.

          Historically, it has been very rare for any ruler to give the smallest consideration either to the welfare of the ruled, or to the lawfulness and justice of their actions.

  6. Herbie R Ficklestein says:

    So, our dog, Cricket, went for her rabies vaccination shot yesterday. Seems today had a very bad reaction. Of course, it’s safe and effective.
    65 Ways Rabies Vaccination Can Harm Your Dog
    Post At A Glance
    Every Vaccination Increases The Risk
    Damage Can Be Immediate Or Months Later
    Rabies Vaccination Is Not Safe
    Acute Problems
    Chronic Problems
    Chronic Rabies-Specific Problems
    What You Can Do
    Final Thoughts
    There are countless ways rabies vaccination can harm your dog – often permanently. I’m going to tell you about just 65 of those ways below.
    As a holistic veterinarian, our outdated rabies vaccination laws are one of the things that upset me the most. All over the US and in most of Canada, the law requires you to vaccinate your dog against rabies every three years. In most US states your dog’s first rabies vaccine must be a one year shot, with revaccination every three years after that.
    None of these laws take into account the real duration of immunity of rabies vaccines, Studies by Ronald Schultz PhD show that rabies vaccines protects for a minimum of 7 years – and probably for the life of the animal.
    And neither do the thousands of veterinarians in the US who are still vaccinating annually for rabies. They do this despite the fact that annual vaccination is neither required by law nor recommended by the American Animal Hospital Association (AAHA) Guidelines.
    Rabies Vaccination Is Not Safe
    I’ve listed 65 ways the rabies vaccine can harm your dog. It’s not an exhaustive list … but I’ve tried to give you a picture of the risks you take when you vaccinate your dog for rabies.
    Most conventional vets will tell you that rabies vaccination is very safe and unlikely to cause any side effects. Holistic vets, myself included, will tell you a very different story. We’ve learned to recognize the shocking damage that rabies vaccination caues in so many pets.
    I’ve divided common rabies vaccine reactions into three different categories.
    Acute Problems
    Acute reactions can happen immediately after the rabies vaccine or within a few days. Conventional vets are more likely to recognize acute (vs chronic) reactions as being linked to the rabies vaccine.
    These acute reactions aren’t necessarily limited to the rabies vaccine but can happen with any shots.
    Vomiting
    Facial swelling
    Injection site swelling or lump
    Lethargy
    Urticaria (hives)
    Circulatory shock
    Injection site pain
    Pruritus (itching)
    Injection site alopecia (hair loss)
    Death
    Loss of consciousness
    Diarrhea
    Hypersensitivity
    Fever
    Anaphylaxis (which can kill your dog in minutes)
    Ataxia (loss of balance/coordination)
    Lameness
    General signs of pain
    Hyperactivity
    Injection site scab or crust
    Muscle tremor
    Seizures (these can be immediate upon vaccination but can also occur in 7 to 9 days which is when the rabies antibodies develop)
    Tumor at the injection site (this can happen within as little as 72 hours)
    Sudden behavior changes such as aggression, fear or anxiety can also happen acutely, within hours or days of rabies vaccination
    Immune mediated hemolytic anemia (IMHA). This disease can also become chronic

    • What this veterinarian says goes against the standard belief that all vaccines are safe and effective.

      • Xabier says:

        I think we have all come to understand that vaccine makers have got away with an awful lot of mischief over the years, in both other animals and humans.

        Pet vaccines are a dependable cash cow for vet surgeries, every business needs one….

    • Dana says:

      I’ve probably mentioned this here before, I used to keep horses, and I had to quit getting them vaxxed because of the problems that occurred, with at least one life threatening episode. Of course the vet wants to vax every year, for the same diseases, which never made sense to me.

      • Xabier says:

        I missed the annual vaxx for a dog, by a lot, and when I asked the vet how long cover lasted for and did it really matter they looked shifty and muttered ’18 months or so’ and wouldn’t look me in the eye. Ha, I thought, a con!

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Our other dog – brought from Bali — had every shot on the planet to get into nz – then had to quarantine 6 months in Hong Kong… that was nearly 8 yrs ago…

          She’s never had a shot since… never been sick a day in her life… but then again Bali dogs are products of Darwinism in Action … they are survivors.

          I dont think we’ll vax either dog anymore — they have almost no interaction with other dogs so they are unlikely to catch anything

    • JMS says:

      Rabies, AIDS, covid, there are no more profitable diseases than the imaginary ones. Constant yield guaranteed.
      Pasteur was one of the most evil people who ever walked this planet, perhaps the best symbol of scientific corruption, and the greatest foe of humanity after Thomas Midgley Jr.
      If I ever get back to Paris I can’t forget to pisss on his grave.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Vaccines are for other people… let them take as many as they want.

      F789 all vaccines. Never again

  7. Tim Groves says:

    Extremely rare footage. Most of these interviews have been scrubbed.

    After no WMDs were found in Iraq, Biden was still defending the war. He said that it was ok for Bush to lie about WMDs in order to build public support for the war.

    https://twitter.com/mazemoore/status/1564284788583841796?

    • Tim Groves says:

      I don’t know that “extremely rare footage” is a good description for the internet age. Even a single copy can go viral in no time.

      Incidentally, re. today’s Joe Biden and the Joe Biden of ten years ago, both of whom are shown in this video, I forced Mrs Tim to watch this and asked if they looked the same or different. Her first reaction was, “How do I know? White people all look alike to me.” But when pressed further, she admitted that they looked like two different people, especially around the eyes and temples. But she added, “What difference does it make?”

      What difference indeed.

  8. Fast Eddy says:

    Hoolio is unhinged — M Fast bought him two more of his squeak pigs… he eventually tears them to bits… so he’s racing around with the pig chomping on it … he sure loves the pig… he’s in heaven

    https://i.postimg.cc/VN3z5MH6/Pig.jpg

    • fromoasa says:

      “My mom knows I’m always hungry, so she’s bought me this little piglet to snack on. Cool. Hey, wait a minute – it’s not real. I’ve been tricked! Typical :(“

  9. Fast Eddy says:

    August 23, 2022:

    “Sonali Phogat, BJP leader and former Bigg Boss contestant died of heart attack in Goa at the age of 43 on Tuesday (August 23). A spate of sudden heart attacks in young personalities from the entertainment industry in the recent past has sent shockwaves across the country. Sidharth Shukla (40), Puneeth Rajkumar (44), KK (53) and Brahma Swaroop Mishra (36) are among the young people who showed no signs and symptoms of a heart disease before succumbing to heart attack and some of them achieved one fitness milestone after the other inspiring their fans…

    ‘We are having a pandemic of sudden cardiac arrests in young. By young means people at the page of 30 to 50 years. What could be the possible reasons for sudden cardiac arrest in young ranges from loneliness, stress, mental trauma, smoking, alcohol etc, also lack of exercise, proper diet. Youngest person who we have seen has had a heart attack is a 17-year-old guy,’ says Dr Ruchit Shah, Interventional Cardiologist, Masina Hospital, Mumbai.”

    https://www.hindustantimes.com/lifestyle/health/sonali-phogat-dies-of-heart-attack-experts-on-what-causes-sudden-cardiac-arrest-101661252058836.html

    hahahahaha All together now!!! Anything but the _____

    norm – why don’t you tell us how you feel?

  10. Tim Groves says:

    Herbie motivated me to go out and find this video:

    Today our economy is utterly dependent on fossil fuels. They are essential to transportation, manufacturing, farming, electricity, and to make fertilizers, cement, steel, roads, cars, and half a million other products. This discussion with Alice Friedemann is a reality check on where energy will come from in the future.

    One day soon, fossil fuels will no longer be abundant and affordable. That time may be nearer than we realize. Some experts predict oil shortages as soon as 2022 to 2030. What will our options be for replacing the fossil fuels that turn the great wheel of civilization?

    Alice Friedemann’s book, “Life After Fossil Fuels: A Reality Check on Alternative Energy,” surveys the arsenal of alternatives – wind, solar, hydrogen, geothermal, nuclear, batteries, catenary systems, fusion, methane hydrates, power2gas, wave, tidal power and biomass – and examines whether they can replace or supplement fossil fuels.

    Taking off the rose-colored glasses, author Friedemann will join Bio4Climate Executive Director Adam Sacks in conversation to consider our options.

    • The book blurb for “Life After Fossil Fuels” says,

      This book is a reality check of where energy will come from in the future. Today, our economy is utterly dependent on fossil fuels. They are essential to transportation, manufacturing, farming, electricity, and to make fertilizers, cement, steel, roads, cars, and half a million other products.

      One day, sooner or later, fossil fuels will no longer be abundant and affordable. Inevitably, one day, global oil production will decline. That time may be nearer than we realize. Some experts predict oil shortages as soon as 2022 to 2030. What thenare our options for replacing the fossil fuels that turn the great wheel of civilization?

      Surveying the arsenal of alternatives – wind, solar, hydrogen, geothermal, nuclear, batteries, catenary systems, fusion, methane hydrates, power2gas, wave, tidal power and biomass – this book examines whether they can replace or supplement fossil fuels.

      The book also looks at substitute energy sources from the standpoint of the energy users. Manufacturing, which uses half of fossil fuels, often requires very high heat, which in many cases electricity can’t provide. Industry uses fossil fuels as a feedstock for countless products, and must find substitutes. And, as detailed in the author’s previous book, “When Trucks Stop Running: Energy and the Future of Transportation,” ships, locomotives, and heavy-duty trucks are fueled by diesel. What can replace diesel?

      Taking off the rose-colored glasses, author Alice Friedemann analyzes our options. What alternatives should we deploy right now? Which technologies merit further research and development? Which are mere wishful thinking that, upon careful scrutiny, dematerialize before our eyes?

      Fossil fuels have allowed billions of us to live like kings. Fueled by oil, coal, and natural gas, we changed the equation constraining the carrying capacity of our planet. As fossil fuels peak and then decline, will we fall back to Earth? Are there viable alternatives?

      At the begging of this video, Alice says, “We don’t have time to come up with alternatives.” I would very much agree.

      Adam Sachs, (the other person on this video) is with a climate change / biodiversity concerned organization.

      I listened to the first part of this. Alice does a good job of explaining that if diesel trucks stop running, our food supply becomes a problem after only three days. Renewable options for replacing diesel for operating trucks don’t seem viable at all, especially within a short timeframe.

  11. Tim Groves says:

    This is very cheeky.

    Be sure to send it to your victual-signalling buddies.

    https://www.theautomaticearth.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Freezing.jpg

  12. i will put myself out for recycling

    • This is simply a comparison of the fuel cost for an electric car compared to the fuel cost for a diesel vehicle. The initial cost is higher as well, especially if the initial cost is not heavily subsidized.

  13. Fast Eddy says:

    So how did this interpol communication surface?

    This is the PR Team working the MOREONS

    https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=405313795066647&extid=CL-UNK-UNK-UNK-AN_GK0T-GK1C&ref=sharing

    Look at Ardern hahaha… that is hilarious… no wonder Clarke mounted up on the nanny… to be honest .. given the choice – Ardern or Super Snatch… I’d choose Door 3 – soosiside!

  14. Fast Eddy says:

    Delusion https://t.me/TexasLindsay/382

    ‘Electric Vehicles Are TERRIBLE for the Environment’: Dr. Roger McGrath Dispels the Lies

    Tucker Carlson: (https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1564794328064606208?s=20) “A single battery for an electric car needs at least ’30 pounds of lithium, 60 pounds of cobalt, 130 pounds of Nickel, 90 pounds of copper, 190 pounds of graphite, and roughly 500 pounds of steel, aluminum, magnesium, plastic, and other materials.’ All of which are derived from mining!”

    Rumble (https://rumble.com/v1i46r9-electric-vehicles-are-terrible-for-the-environment-dr.-roger-mcgrath-dispel.html)

  15. Fast Eddy says:

    Could this be related to the vaccine? (I thought to myself)

    Not knowing my neighbor Caroline’s views or knowledge on this subject I was cautious and chose my words carefully—I asked if the doctors were able to offer any insight into causation.

    Without pause, she said “Ohhhh, we know EXACTLY what caused it.”

    She said after her son’s 2nd dose he got sick within hours. First he had digestive issues, and later he would call her in tears because of the severe pain he was in.

    Caroline recounted the phone calls from her son, “he felt like someone was stabbing his brain with a thousand knives over and over again for long periods of time and he couldn’t escape the pain and also had painful sensations where it felt like his brain was on fire” she said.

    https://texaslindsay.substack.com/p/brain-on-fire-a-rare-side-effect

    Oh come on – it’s safe and effective… can’t be the vax

  16. Fast Eddy says:

    Brain On Fire: a “rare” side-effect many didn’t see coming
    One man’s story + the CDC data that shows he’s not alone.

    https://texaslindsay.substack.com/p/brain-on-fire-a-rare-side-effect

  17. Fast Eddy says:

    Wicked – … winning

    MASSIVE US DEATH SPIKE

    43K+ EXCESS US Deaths PER MONTH; 1.3M Excess Since 2020

    Starting roughly on March/April 2020 and rocketing upwards to 1.3 million in approx 9th October 2022

    That’s 43,333 excess deaths per month. These are not just the deaths, these are the excess deaths

    These two red lines, Europe and the US, are similar in when they start exploding and how quickly they accelerate upward

    TWITTER (https://twitter.com/professorakston/status/1564277119655546882?s=21&t=WwHvzAkT2_-8Q53rxjV5PQ)

    WATCH HERE (https://rumble.com/v1hvtm7-massive-us-death-spike-genocide-43k-excess-us-deaths-per-month-1.3m-excess-.html)

    https://rumble.com/v1hvtm7-massive-us-death-spike-genocide-43k-excess-us-deaths-per-month-1.3m-excess-.html

    • Tim Groves says:

      Do you think Duncan is part of that huge spike?

      Or is he just too embarrassed to visit us these days?

      • JesseJames says:

        If still alive, Duncan is busy hiking and eating berries along the trail, then partaking of the spice. His California is collapsing as we speak, losing population for the first time in its history. Good luck with paying all those fat unsustainable pensions when you are losing high income taxpayers at a record rate.
        It will be sweet to watch the implosion of that stupid state…

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Id like to see that massive quake they’ve warned about happen about now … let the entire state slough off into the pacific ….

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Has he been spotted on Tim Morgan’s site recently? I thought he was a regular in the comments….

        Meanwhile … norm is preparing for Shot FIVE. Imagine that… how many have to die before norm realizes his folly?

        • JesseJames says:

          Duncan was spotted commenting on MoonofAlabama…a site devoted to the Russian SMO in Ukraine.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            dunc will live out the final months in shame

            Who can ever forget his comment about the unvaxxed being stooopid and that we’d all be culled …. that lives in infamy ..

            mike also told us how we should get injected so we could ‘get around’ and cuz ‘we need to do as we are told’….

            let’s not forget norm – a Pro(fessional) Vaxxer who in his spare time (when he’s not queuing for the next booster that is)… enjoys gathering children and driving them to the injection clinic … the kids all call him Grandpa Creepy – but they go with him anyway cuz norm offers candy…

    • I don’t really like reports published by someone who goes by the pseudonym of “Tim Truth.” Why not put his own name on it?

      Since March 13, 2022, deaths in the US have been tracking the expected, very closely. There have been at least a few Covid deaths in this time period, so deaths have been less than expected since March 13, 2022.
      https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-raw-death-count-single-series?country=~USA

      Yet, this analysis, published in August 2022, cuts off the data in January, when Covid deaths and excess deaths were high.

      I agree that there have been a lot of extra non-Covid deaths since March 2020. But maybe the excess deaths have stopped, without the vaccines being pushed. We will see with the next round of vaccines being pushed.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        If a scientist puts his name on a data dump that offends the narrative — his career would end

  18. Fast Eddy says:

    Refusniks are becoming the Majority in The UK

    • Before the first jab, refuseniks numbered 1 in 3.3 of the entire population

    • After the first jab, refuseniks numbered from 1 in 3 of the entire population

    • After the second jab, refuseniks numbered to 1 in 2 of the entire population

    Read More Here ➡️ https://t.me/CovidScienceLibrary/956

  19. Fast Eddy says:

    AUSTRALIA BECOMES THE 3RD COUNTRY IN THE WORLD TO GIVE A PROVISIONAL APPROVAL FOR THE MODERNA BIVALENT COVID 19 BOOSTER…

    No talk in NZ yet about if/when this is coming here or how it would be used.

    https://www.smh.com.au/national/australian-authorities-approve-omicron-vaccine-booster-20220830-p5be1k.html?fbclid=IwAR1l-xMmcd1cfAndcOvKFH75G7w77ZZUih2uk2CWoR7wOrc92Ii1H22NWJ0

    mike – are you hopeful???

    I’m looking forward to a massive wave of injuries and deaths in Australia from this Super Strength Death Jab hahahaha …. in fact I cannot wait… hurry MOREONS … get the booster shots

    https://www.tiktok.com/@rachel_youvegot2bkidding/video/7052092917552516398

  20. Fast Eddy says:

    Again … nobody on SS will suggest having a go at this guy https://medicine.usask.ca/profiles/surgery/vascular/b.-ulmer.php

    Nope – let’s all just rant and rave on SS and watch farmers drive round and round accomplishing nothing…

    Heaven forbid anyone try to upset the cart… need to be polite… right?

    Endless calls for non-violent protest… which achieve zero

  21. Fast Eddy says:

    Why don’t anti-vaxxers … take some legit action??? Not hard to track him down … https://medicine.usask.ca/profiles/surgery/vascular/b.-ulmer.php

    https://drtrozzi.org/2022/08/31/dr-francis-christian-the-meeting-in-dystopia/

  22. Fast Eddy says:

    https://youtu.be/Zn6c-UkqlHo

    Energy was a problem before the UKEY war … so Tucker suggesting ending the war solves nothing …That ‘war’ is all about providing an excuse for the shortages…

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/08/natural-gas-prices-are-skyrocketing-globally-what-it-means-for-the-us.html

    Basically what Tucker is doing is perpetuating the myth that the energy problem is temporary….

  23. Fast Eddy says:

    Tucker drops an energy truth bomb on the MOREONS… this is a MUST watch.

    Tucker Carlson: Things are falling apart very quickly

    https://youtu.be/Zn6c-UkqlHo

    Not quite UEP … but not far off.

  24. Fast Eddy says:

    Who do they fear?

    The Elders … of course

    “TOWARDS the end of 2020, editors of major UK media outlets were summoned, one by one, and not for the first time, to individual briefings at Downing Street.

    Apparently, all the meetings followed the same format. Each editor was shown into Boris Johnson’s office, where Chris Whitty and Patrick Vallance gave a presentation about how a devastating next wave of ‘Covid’ was going to kill 500,000 people and cripple the NHS.

    The usual bogus decontextualised data and ludicrously misleading graphs were waved in their faces. Then the two witch-doctors slithered out of the room and Johnson instructed the editors to get behind a winter lockdown.

    At this point, one editor decided to interrogate the Prime Minister. He said something along these lines: ‘Come on, you know as well as I do that all of that was complete nonsense. No country on Earth experienced half a million deaths in the first wave and they’re telling us to expect it in a second wave? There’s no justification for another lockdown – why are you doing this?’

    Boris Johnson adopted a haunted and helpless expression, gestured towards the door through which Whitty and Vallance had just exited and said: ‘I’ve got to do what they tell me.’

    I heard this story in early 2021 from a colleague at the Telegraph.”

    @BobMoran

    After self-censoring shame over lockdown, how can journalists stay silent on vaccine danger? – The Conservative Woman
    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/after-self-censoring-shame-over-lockdown-how-can-journalists-stay-silent-on-vaccine-danger/

  25. Fast Eddy says:

    WOW.. at least it was a good death.

    https://live2fightanotherday.substack.com/p/charlbi-deans-32-cause-of-death-unexpected/comments

    DrMoira
    Writes Dr. Moira’s Paws 4 Thot Newslet…
    7 hr ago
    And: Our Family has waited a very long time almost 7 months for XXXXX Autopsy report. Today it was deciphered and explained to us by a medical professional.

    The information provided is not an opinion but simply the sad facts of the situation.

    XXXX had NO Cancer markers and his organs were (as the ICU Dr put it) Pristine, at the time he was admitted to hospital. 6 days before he passed.

    The autopsy provided evidence of a strange, extremely aggressive Large B Cel Lymphoma.

    The prime suspect is the Vaccine, in particular the booster which he and I had administered on Dec.7.

    The prime suspect is the vaccine as the MRNA (the vaccine make up) is delivered throughout the body via ones lymph nodes.

    His immune response mechanisms – his T Cells

    Description: T Cells are lymphocyte immune cells that protect the body from pathogens and cancer cells. T cells originate from bone marrow and mature in the thymus. They are important for cell mediated immunity and the activation of immune cells to fight cancers and infections.

    The MRNA vaccine, thought to have positive Co vid fighting attributes, are known and proven to suppress T Cells.

    The Killer T Cells (That is what they are called) kill cancer cells directly – T cells can be stimulated to kill cancer)

    Apparently XXXXs T Cells were dramatically reduced – and I was told likely so dramatic after the Booster we received on Dec. 7 . XXXXs body could not fight what it normally would have. Again, as the Killer T Cells were so few there was nothing in him to fight it. Cancer was not detected in XXXX (NO Cancer markers) per ICU dr the day before he died. Found at autopsy. The fast aggressive and as I was told strange tumours – are what caused the Lactic Acid levels – extreme – and his organs to fail.

    This is not my opinion – but the facts presented today.

    I am not trying to alarm anyone – and your body will – after a period of time – re introduce new T CELL Fighters…. XXXX’s body just didn’t have time to.

    The above is the very shocking and sad truth.

    I committed to friends and family to advise findings once we knew, for certain – what the outcome of the reports were. PLEASE RESPECT OUR FAMILY AND DO NOT LEAVE ANY COMMENT.

    I am shattered. I miss you my dear dear best friend. My Rock.

    Don’t be alarmed norm … just get the next booster

  26. Tim Groves says:

    Here’s a practical tool for planning your next overseas trip.

    US and Canada Still Ban Unvaccinated Travelers

    Europe is mostly open. Even Australia is open. The United States joins China, Iran, Brazil and 47 other countries in banning the unvaccinated from entering.

    https://wholistic.substack.com/p/us-and-canada-still-ban-unvaccinated?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

    I can’t imagine I’ll ever travel abroad again—and certainly not for pleasure. The various authorities have succeeded in making that far too much hassle for picky people like me. The rest of the world will have to party without me.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      I would not enjoy an overseas trip … so I will never travel overseas again … there is likely only a short time remaining … I prefer to spend the time with Hoolio (and his pig) and M Fast of course.

      Books are a good escape… as would be Bolivian Blow…but .. where to get

    • jazzguitarvt says:

      I went on a 2 week bicycle trip in Newfoundland, now back in the us, no one ever asked about the vax.

      • Lidia17 says:

        Airports are likely worse than highway travel. I doubt if we were to travel to Italy that my non-US-citizen husband could re-enter the US, given the Djokovic example.

    • This certainly discourages international travel.

      I know someone who has flown to Mexico to visit a resort, more than once. I am sure that she is unvaccinated. I have never heard her complain about problems getting back in. So it may be non-US citizens, more than US citizens, with the problem getting in from the South. I will have to remember to ask her. She may have been on a charter jet, for example.

  27. Fast Eddy says:

    Here’s how the vaccine is causing those weird “blood clots”
    I had a nice chat with Jessica Rose today on her Substack article about how the vaccine is causing your blood to perform unnatural acts.

    https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/heres-how-the-vaccine-is-causing

    Notice how none of these SSs urge people to take any action to stop ‘the WEF from enslaving them’…

  28. Fast Eddy says:

    Alerta máxima en Tucumán por un virus no identificado que causa neumonía: qué se sabe hasta ahora

    The Ministry of Public Health of Tucuman warned that a bilateral pneumonia outbreakl in that province, where six cases have already been registered, of unknown origin and etiology. Two people died and four others remain hospitalized.

    “We have detected an outbreak of bilateral pneumonia in six patients, this disease is a manifestation of many respiratory diseases”, he explained louis medina ruizhead of the provincial health portfolio, at a press conference.

    Bilateral pneumonia is a lung infection which is among the frequent sequelae of covid. It can happen through a bacteria or virus acquired during hospitalization or involvement of the lungs with respiratory disease.

    Medina Ruiz explained that, before diagnosing with the appropriate disease, suspicions first pointed to covid, influenza, influenza A, influenza B and Hantavirus, but all were discarded.

    The official stated that “we have not yet found the etiology despite continuing to study not only viruses, but also bacteria, with cultures through a study called FilmArray, which investigates 25 germs, and they also tested negative.

    https://hiddencomplexity.substack.com/p/outbreak-of-pneumonia-of-unknown

    This is how Devil Covid will announce it’s arrival…

  29. Fast Eddy says:

    https://2ndsmartestguyintheworld.substack.com/p/world-economic-forums-entire-plan

    Can people really be so stooopid as to believe this?

    Of course they are unaware that they are barnyard animals being farmed by the Elders… idiots.

    • This man says that Netherlands is the second largest food exporter in the world. Now, the Dutch government is trying to reduce fertilizer use, in the name of CO2 reduction. He believes that the resulting food scarcity will give politicians more control over the people.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        hahahaha… how’s that work — is it like dog treats? If the dog obeys he gets a treat??? hahahaha….

        I thought that was what salaries were for…..

    • sounds like one helluva conspiracy eddy

    • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

      also the GBP is $1.15

      won’t be long before it’s below $1.00

      • Tim Groves says:

        Once the UK opens up the North Sea to drilling again and ushers in the petropound era…..

        And once the UK becomes the Saudi Arabia of wind…

        According to Liz T and Boris J, the good times will roll again.

        • Jon F says:

          Saudi Britannica?

          Jim Ratcliffe/Ineos moved into the North Sea back in 2015….buying up existing assets….

          Turned out to be a very profitable operation in 2021…seems like a shrewd operator….Will he go after new fields or just look to buy existing assets? That alone would be telling….

      • Jon F says:

        The UK govt’s participation in the Russian assets seizure probably hasn’t helped….post-GFC, foreign money piling in has played it’s part in keeping the UK economy afloat….oh well….

      • This is the falling currency problem. With currencies very low relative to the US$, the US can continue to buy oil, but hardly anyone else can afford it. It leads to falling oil prices.

  30. banned says:

    If building seven collapsed because of fire why have building codes not changed? Why have fire codes not changed? Why have the fundamentals of engineering high rise buildings remained exactly the same? NIST said it was a discovery of a new type of fire collapse. This would mean every high rise in the world is unsafe.

    The reason is the NIST report is a non peer reviewed collection of assertions that actually prove themselves wrong. Every structural engineer understands this, Every structural engineer understands that no steel beam building has ever collapsed from fire. Every building code underwriter and enforcement knows it. All of them must live with the cognitive dissonance of knowing that 911 was a inside job. If they dont they are incompetent. Most politicians know also.

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/Z4CzdllOwkk0/

    Here is the two year Universities of Fairbanks structural engineering department analysis of the building seven collapse.

    Every single structural engineer has come to the exact same conclusion. Every column had to be removed simultaneously in order to match building sevens symmetrical collapse into its own footprint. Asymmetrical damage can not create a symmetrical collapse. It would mean every aspect of structural engineering is wrong.

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/qlC72YRtsvQM/

    • Lidia17 says:

      “If building seven collapsed because of fire why have building codes not changed?”
      Very good point, and not one I’d come across before.

    • CTG says:

      Here is the two year Universities of Fairbanks structural engineering department analysis of the building seven collapse.

      Every single structural engineer has come to the exact same conclusion. Every column had to be removed simultaneously in order to match building sevens symmetrical collapse into its own footprint. Asymmetrical damage can not create a symmetrical collapse. It would mean every aspect of structural engineering is wrong.

      https://www.bitchute.com/video/qlC72YRtsvQM/

      ** You don’t need a structural engineer to tell you that. If you are sane, aware and non-vaxxed person, you can tell immediately with confidence that it is not caused by fire.

      • CTG says:

        Isn’t this the same (i.e. cognitive dissonance from government actions) as C19 and its vax? same modus operandi?

      • Tim Groves says:

        I brought this subject up with a New York leftwing (but I repeat myself) academic some time around 2005. She insisted to me, un-ironically and non-sarcastically, that the collapses of the WTC buildings were due to “poor 1970s construction practices”.

        It is impossible to discuss anything with such people. They are the human nanothermite that has been installed in the superstructure of Western Society for the purpose of causing the entire edifice to collapse into its own footprint at close to free-fall speed when the time comes.

        They have now moved onto to insisting their are a potentially infinite number of genders, all men a rapists, white people suck, Russia must be divided up into half a dozen states like Yugoslavia was in the interests of world peace, and that our future zero carbon society is going to be a lot of fun.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Anyone who believes those towers came down cuz fire…

        is…

        Mentally Ill.

        • in eddyworld, i don’t think there’s anyone left who isn’t mentally ill

          except eddy

          • Fast Eddy says:

            99.99999% are mentally ill or stoooopid.. or both. You are almost correct

          • Fast Eddy says:

            Cancer Update: met a few people for drinks last night — one of them told a tale of woe…. a close family member who had beaten cancer 10 years ago…. had a sudden reoccurrence of the same cancer — they were planning to spend some time with him in September (he lives in Aussie) but he was dead within a month….

            This is exactly what Ryan Cole and other doctors have been seeing … Turbo Cancer…

            The cool thing is nobody connected the dots and wondered out loud – what could have caused this … and who am I to piss on the funeral pyre by asking – was he vaxxed… cuz Ryan Cole says….. and what do I care — everyone at the table would be boosted and all set to get the Super Shot shortly.

            Here’s a thought — what about taking out life insurance policies on people we know are hell bent on an endless series of injections!!! We could create a pool of say 25 people under 40 so the premiums are reasonable — and take 5M policies on them…

            Let’s say 10 of them suckumb to the injections .. 50M to split amongst the Pure Bloods!!!

            The good thing is the insurers do not penalize the CovIDIOTS no matter how many injections they take hahahaha… so it’s like betting on a fixed horse race … hahahahaha

            norm – we won’t take a policy on you cuz the premium on a 5M policy will be 6M per year given you are a fossil. But thanks for offering

  31. Hemorrhagic Fever says:

    If I understand correctly, the USA consumes 20 mmbbls of oil per day but produces only 4 mmbbls crude + 7 mmbbls tight oil. Not sure on the exact numbers.

    So from what I’ve heard, the additional 9 mmbbls is imported, refined in the gulf, and then claimed as produced in USA. Energy Independence!

    Is this accurate?

    Secondly, what is this garbage I keep hearing about “USA is a net energy exporter”?
    What does that statement mean?

    Thirdly, what happens when tight oil falls off a cliff in a few years and USA looses 7 mmbbls per day? Top exporting countries can’t cover this amount. More wars? WWIII? $50 per gallon at the pump? Supply chain collapse? Every business out of business? War in the streets?

    • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

      first of all… it’s bAU tonight, baby!

      now, US production is about 12 MILLION bpd, down from 13 but still amazingly wondrously awesome.

      “consumes” 20 mbpd generally means what goes through US refineries.

      far less than 20 mbpd is actually burned in the US.

      the US imports a lot, and exports a lot.

      it’s all good.

      thirdly, it’s bAU tonight, baby!

    • ivanislav says:

      I’d like an answer as well from one of the resident experts, but I thought the difference was explained by ethanol production, natural gas plant liquids, and refinery gains. Also IIRC the conventional + tight oil was closer to 12 mbpd recently, not 11, and consumption was more around 18 maybe 19.

      • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

        I also wouldn’t mind a more detailed explanation for how many mbpd are actually burned in the USA, and not just refinery output where much is then exported.

        that explanation could easily be set aside until tomorrow.

        because tonight tonight tonight, oh oh, it’s b-b-b-b-bAU tonight, b-b-b-b-baby you ain’t seen nothin’ yet, at least until 2030.

        it is what it is.

        que sera sera.

    • i1 says:

      Yeah, I kind of wondered if Basrah light, or heavy for that matter, is considered domestic production since the psa gives 60% to a usa corp.

      https://corporate.exxonmobil.com/Crude-oils/Crude-trading/Basrah-Light

    • Things get very complex. The numbers you usually see are “liquids.” Liquids include more than oil. Light tight oil is still oil, but it probably has less diesel in it than some heavier grades. The US imports heavier grades of oil, to offset this deficiency. This is a chart from the International piece of the US Energy Information Administration website, showing US liquids production for the last several years.

      https://ourfiniteworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/US-oil-production-EIA-data-Sept.-1-2022-1024×272.png

      You can see that total US production is 18.944 million barrels of “liquids” a day, of which 11.254 million barrels per day is “crude and condensate,” which is as close to “crude” as we can get from the data. The rapidly growing part is NGPL (or natural gas plant liquids) at 5.394 million barrels per day. This is the fairly undesirable product that is part of what comes out when tight oil is extracted. In fact, it also a byproduct of natural gas. “Other liquids” is basically ethanol, from corn.

      “Refinery gain” comes mostly when heavy oil is “cracked” to give it a better profile of products. The US imports a lot of oil from the oil sands from Canada. It is likely that some of this is “cracked” using some US natural gas. The US also imports quite a bit of crude oil (or did, in 2021) from Russia. I would imagine this is heavy-ish oil as well.

      This is a link to a chart showing US net imports (crude oil and products combined) by country:
      https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move_neti_a_ep00_IMN_mbblpd_a.htm

      Canada was highest, at 3.5 million barrels per day, in 2021. Russia was number two, at 673,000 barrels per day in 2021. In total for all countries, imports and exports very close to balanced, at 62,000 barrels a day of exported crude oil + products.

      We can also look at this data for 2022, by month. Now, the US has become a net exporter of crude oil and products, and Russia has dropped out of the picture. I am guessing that the oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve is allowing this to happen. I believe that what is being taken out of the SPR is also heavy oil. Also, this year’s high prices discourage customers from buying oil products.

      https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move_neti_a_ep00_IMN_mbblpd_m.htm

      There is all kinds of other data available from the EIA. For example, we can look at imports separately from exports.

      https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move_expc_a_EP00_EEX_mbblpd_a.htm
      https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move_impcus_a2_nus_ep00_im0_mbblpd_a.htm

      Other countries, especially Canada and Mexico, make use of US refinery space. So we import crude oil from these countries, and we also export products back to the same countries. US companies make a profit from this arrangement.

      • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

        very complex indeed.

        NGPL at about 5 mbpd goes mostly to petrochemical production, it’s not what most people think about “oil”, but it’s useful for making plastic stuff etc.

        so let’s set that aside, and use 12 mbpd as actual US crude oil production from wells.

        the recent import/export data seems to show that “total oil and products” are fairly equal, imports and exports each about 8 mbpd.

        “products” must be mostly gasoline and diesel.

        change the tabs and look at just “crude oil” imports/exports and it looks like about 6 mbpd crude imports and 3 mbpd crude exports.
        (so 2 mbpd imported products and 5 mbpd exported products, since imports and exports each add up to about 8 mbpd. The net exports of “products” are about 3 mbpd which is a good way for US refineries to make money.)

        so for crude oil the US pumps 12 and imports 6 = 18 but exports 3 so the net is 15 mbpd through US refineries.

        refinery gains about 1 mbpd, so the US “products” are about 16 mbpd.

        add the 2 mbpd of imported “products”, and perhaps maybe the US actually “burns” about 18 mbpd of “products”.

        (somehow the added complexity may be because the US imports 4 mbpd of “heavy” Canadian oil and blends it with fracked LTO light tight oil? Maybe the 3 mbpd of US crude exports is actually “better” crude oil that doesn’t need “blending” by the importing countries? who knows?)

        18 mbpd of products, plus 5 mbpd of NGPL, that’s a lot of economic activity in the USA.

  32. Herbie R Ficklestein says:

    Go ask ALICE…I think she’ll know…

    With world peak oil production likely in 2018, there’s no time left to invent ways to electrify essential areas of society that are dependent on fossil fuels. Without diesel, civilization stops within a week as trucks stop farming, logging, mining, transporting goods, construct roads and buildings, and bring raw materials to factories. Ditto for locomotives and ships. Without fossil fuels, manufacturing ends because cement, steel, glass, ceramics and more depend on the high heat of fossil fuels.

    And as energy declines, the prices for mining will skyrocket, and remote or difficult areas unexploited. Mining requires a tremendous amount of energy and time: a productive mine on average takes 16.5 years to build.

    If you’ve gotten this far still believing that renewables are clean and green, try to get past this sentence: Over the next 30 years 7.5 billion of us we will consume more minerals than the last 70,000 years of the past 500 generations, which is more than all of the 108 billion humans who have ever walked the Earth.

    Mining requires the extraction of solid ores, often after removing vast amounts of overlying rock. Then the ore must be processed, creating an enormous quantity of waste – about 100 billion tonnes a year, more than any other human-made waste stream. Mineral extraction is also filthy in causing 10% of human greenhouse gas emissions. In Brazil a study found that a single mine can disturb the surrounding 70 kilometers of land, not just with toxic waste, but roads to move the materials. There goes biodiversity!

    An electric car requires 6 times more minerals than a petrol one (excluding steel & aluminum). An offshore wind turbine 13 times more than an equivalent gas-fired power plant.

    From her website “Energy Sceptic”…

    • postkey says:

      Nothing to ‘worry about’?

      ‘“For centuries, the ivory towers of academia have echoed this sentiment of multitudinous ends and limited means. In this supremely contrarian book, Tupy and Pooley overturn the tables in the temple of conventional thinking. They deploy rigorous and original data and analysis to proclaim a gospel of abundance. Economics―and ultimately, politics―will be enduringly transformed.” ―George Gilder, author of Life after Google: The Fall of Big Data and the Rise of the Blockchain Economy

      Generations of people have been taught that population growth makes resources scarcer. In 2021, for example, one widely publicized report argued, “The world’s rapidly growing population is consuming the planet’s natural resources at an alarming rate . . . the world currently needs 1.6 Earths to satisfy the demand for natural resources . . . [a figure that] could rise to 2 planets by 2030.” But is that true?

      After analyzing the prices of hundreds of commodities, goods, and services spanning two centuries, Marian Tupy and Gale Pooley found that resources became more abundant as the population grew. That was especially true when they looked at “time prices,” which represent the length of time that people must work to buy something.

      To their surprise, the authors also found that resource abundance increased faster than the population―a relationship that they call “superabundance.” On average, every additional human being created more value than he or she consumed. This relationship between population growth and abundance is deeply counterintuitive, yet it is true.

      Why? More people produce more ideas, which lead to more inventions. People then test those inventions in the marketplace to separate the useful from the useless. At the end of that process of discovery, people are left with innovations that overcome shortages, spur economic growth, and raise standards of living.

      But large populations are not enough to sustain superabundance―just think of the poverty in China and India before their respective economic reforms. To innovate, people must be allowed to think, speak, publish, associate, and disagree. They must be allowed to save, invest, trade, and profit. In a word, they must be free.’

      https://www.amazon.com/Superabundance-Population-Innovation-Flourishing-Infinitely/dp/1952223393

      • Unfortunately, the rising ability to extract resources, even faster than population is rising, reaches diminishing returns, after a point.

        Part of what pushes along extraction is growing debt at ever-lower interest rates. At some point, asset prices (as in homes, for example) become absurdly high relative to incomes. Interest rates fall lower. Lack of fossil fuels also directly impacts productivity in many ways. Rolling electrical blackouts are one stark example. Lack of fertilizer to put on crops is another. Getting less food per acre is a big problem.

        Economists have assumed that consumers could handle higher and higher energy prices. This was only true as long as wages were rising faster. Now, however, the “system” cannot produce more fossil fuels, no matter how much money is thrown at it. Debt is at a ridiculous level. We are at a point where the debt bubble must implode.

      • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

        moreon alert:

        “After analyzing the prices of hundreds of commodities, goods, and services spanning two centuries, Marian Tupy and Gale Pooley found that resources became more abundant as the population grew. That was especially true when they looked at “time prices,” which represent the length of time that people must work to buy something.
        To their surprise, the authors also found that resource abundance increased faster than the population―a relationship that they call “superabundance.” On average, every additional human being created more value than he or she consumed. This relationship between population growth and abundance is deeply counterintuitive, yet it is true.”

        two moreons who have no clue that “two centuries” of increasing surplus energy due to increasing FF production led to more per capita “abundance”.

        it’s only “deeply counterintuitive” to these moreons.

    • Tim Groves says:

      Nice, and very relevant. Thanks! I have aa list of true believers that I want to send this on to.

  33. Fast Eddy says:

    Just how stooopid is a MOREON?

    They KNOW that the govt lied about WMD – caught red-handed… but they still trust the government and the MSM ….

    You can show them this … they admit faking everything … but the MOREONS still trust the government and the MSM…

    And as norm will tell us — the government does not conspire and the MSM does not lie.

    https://youtu.be/yaR1YBR5g6U

  34. Fast Eddy says:

    I do wonder how many in the ‘anti vax’ community are involved in ensuring there is no confrontation — no violence…. and that message is permeating the unknowing minions…. who are the false actors here…. Desmet?

    And then we have the farmers and people turning flags upside down … as if that is serious rebellion… who is behind that?

    Let’s not forget … the PR Team running UEP is the best there is … they play a chess game within a chess game within a chess game… and they have done this a thousand times (see Ukraine – Zelensky the hero)…

    And even those of us who know they are playing us … are unable to determine what is real … and what is a psyop…

    Anyone who doubts any of this (norm…) needs to watch To Sell a War… just watch the first few minutes… pretty convincing huh? But it’s an acknowledged psyop:

    https://youtu.be/hExlqV-fsP8

    There was only one bum note, when one of those ‘sovereign people’ types butted in with his tuppenceworth from a carefully chosen spot in the centre of the front row, which in truth was worth approximately nuppence. Personally, I’m open to whatever arguments these people have to make, provided they are reasonably civil and coherent, but why do they always have to be so peevish and superior, speaking as though they and they alone have access to the secret codes of human coexistence?

    The way they sweepingly dismiss every other contribution and then go on to say things we have heard a thousand times about how the individual can opt out of the system — though without evidence of actual workability — leads me to feel, right or wrong of it, that the whole thing is a psy-op directed at disrupting efforts at meaningfully confronting the system.

    What they seem to miss is that most of us who have been involved in the resistance initiative since the first intrusion of the Covid nightmare do not do so for our own benefit. Our objective is a cultural one, directed at reclaiming our country and its freedoms for everyone.

    This insight seems to elude them, however, as they drone on in their obscure constructed lingo and bore everyone half to death with their opaque and labyrinthine alleged panaceas, punctuated with dismissive critiques of the efforts of others. It was notable that the individual in question here was not only intent upon dissing everyone, but also seeking to discourage us from speaking too frankly about the reality of what we face. This was telling, in my view, for who could possibly wish to stop people sharing their truths except some agent of the malevolent order that has brought us to these present dark and ominous depths?

    I don’t stand under it. Or over it either, for that matter.

    https://johnwaters.substack.com/p/diary-of-a-dissenter-a-week-from-cba

    • Adonis says:

      I have found clues in movies or series made around the 2020 to 2022 period even earlier movies that were big hits in the 2000s so the elders are using concealed messages that spell out who they are what their plan is and whats going to happen to the vaxxed it has all been cleverly done unfortunately for the elders their plans for a Utopian world look like failing and descending into a no future world.

      • Adonis says:

        The elders will probably go into their luxury bunkers once the end days really hit leaving us to commence the fast eddie challenge world with the scary spent fuel pools to put the icing on the cake, a mighty battle for survival that will probably only last a few weeks for most

      • Jan says:

        The elders have nothing to fear. They lay down after a long life an fall happily asleep. So will do I. It is about the kids, what do they teach their kids? It is about the chick in the supermarket that wants to be able to pass on life.

      • Xabier says:

        The predictive programming is very obvious in retrospect. Games are played with us.

        Over many years we were also regularly drip-fed news stories in the MSM about the next ‘inevitable pandemic’.

        Pigs or birds, or whatever, with various professors trotted out to sound the warning.

        This served to prepare most of us, psychologically, to initially accept that Covid was genuine – ‘Oh, it’s happened at last!’

        And I would put myself in that category, too. I didn’t question it at all for several months; partly, too, I just switched off and got on with work during lock-down, which was a non-negotiable situation here.

        The unjustified re-imposition of lock-downs during winter 2020 when the even the faked death-rate here was negligible woke me up completely, and the utter non-scientific absurdity of the distancing rules and ‘Act as if you’ve got it’ advice, etc.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Mark Crispin Miller teaches propaganda studies… and he was suckered for a few months as well.

          • Xabier says:

            He must be squirming at the recollection!

            Didn’t some Greek say there is no shame in going to a brothel, just in setting up house there?

            Most of us were suckered to varying degrees, and I believe very few of those who claim to have been on to it from day 1, except the people who already took the WEF seriously, and knew the science of respiratory disease and the existing epidemic protocols, etc.

            Even Yeadon took a little time, and had no idea about the conspiracy for months.

            But to still be suckered by the psyop is shameful, like our star sage and poet, Norm.

            If I ever wake up in a cold sweat, it’s thinking that there are millions of him……

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Imagine – 2.5 years later… all the injuries and deaths mainly involving the boosted … the vaccines that turned out not to stop you from getting the Vid – even after 5 shots! … the evidence of murder in the hospitals to drive up deaths to instil fear…. the maimed children… the coverup of vax injuries in the US military….

              And still believing what the BBC and CNN told you from day one.

              That’s norm. hahahahaha… Totally outrageous!

            • careful eddy

              mass murderers go for quantity over quality

      • Tim Groves says:

        The mass media doth protest too much, methinks.

        False claim: London Olympic Games ceremony symbolically predicted the COVID-19 pandemic

        https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-london-olympic-ceremony-idUSKBN22Q31K

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Hahaha… I’ve seen the video … what would be the point in ‘celebrating’ the O-Games with such a dystopian theme… other than to reveal to the MOREONS UEP — because they’ll never figure out they are being toyed with … while sipping fine whiskey in a dark panelled room – and laughing.

          Then of course Utopia… come to think of it … that was released to make people believe the injections are a cull…

          • Xabier says:

            ‘Utopia’ is a good case in point.

            So close to the truth, it seems – a virus as a pretext for a Trojan horse ‘vaccine’, etc, but is it really?

            Playing with us by revealing the supposed sterilisation agenda, or in fact distracting from a planned elimination of population in a rather faster and more brutal fashion?

            Just like all the preposterous Green Transition propaganda.

            The London Olympic ceremony just sends out the most sinister vibes however one looks at it, it’s all just ‘off’.

            Oddly enough, people I know who attended said nothing at the time.

    • MM says:

      Dr. Peter Breggin has made an interview with Ch Austin Fitts where he clearly argues that Desmet is a gatekeeper:

      https://home.solari.com/special-solari-report-mass-formation-a-decoy-for-digital-concentration-camps-with-dr-peter-breggin/

      Highlight: “Yeah, when the people were solitary confined in their homes, for some strange reason a mass formation event happened”
      Mass formation HAS been fact checked to be a non-existent scientific term.

      Who has locked us in?
      Who has counted death from covid equal as death with covid ?
      Who has prevented autopsies ?
      Who has silenced doctors from practicing their job ?

      I am also very astonished about the fact that such things can happen and it has no effect “on the street” whatsoever. I have been at many demonstrations but there were way way too little people. sigh.
      I think a lot of it is due to the internet. Posting at telegram provides some relief and people go to bed happy ever after.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        I’ve had a few thoughts about what one could do if one truly believed they were being enslaved…. to try to throw a wrench in the works…

        One involves motorcycles… drought … and Bic’s… the other involves transmission towers and wrenches…

        Alas I am ok with UEP so these are just thoughts. These sorts of actions would not solve anything – they’d just invite ROF.

        But I don’t mind if the Anti Vaxxers go rogue… that’s entertainment… kinda like the Fat Bastard being kicked in the face was entertainment… the anti vaxxers are pacifists… so someone has to Stir the Pot huh.

    • Dana says:

      The mere fact that you have to pay taxes to the .GOV in the currency issued by .GOV make “opting out” of the system impossible. By design.

  35. Mirror on the wall says:

    So, it has come out that young Shamima was recruited and trafficked into Syria by the Canadian security forces with the support of MI6.

    This one goes for Shamima.

    • fromoasa says:

      Patsy. But it takes two to tango. Let her rot.

      • Mirror on the wall says:

        She was a _child_ of 15 recruited by the British state into terrorism.

        How about we let your state ‘rot’ instead?

    • Jane says:

      Who is Shamima and what is the point of embedding this video?

      • Mirror on the wall says:

        What is the point of your existence?

        • banned says:

          “What is the point of your existence?”
          Good question.
          You first.
          No hiding behind repeating psycho babble please.
          Nice as pie in five days.
          Now you feel rage and will express tendencies toward violence. You own that. Not them.
          The first step to not being tossed about by rage is learning to focus on your body. Your body doesnt like all the rage. give it a bit of power. The ego mind abuses the body. Over and over you abuse this forum then are ashamed. Dont you wish some relief from this cycle? If so you must give your body some authority. Its painful watching your ego/mind torture it.
          You express your own pain in convulsions of insanity. This is not uncommon. The cure is to value your body and understand that you dont deserve the pain of your self created rage.

          Its not that the causes you espouse are worthy or not worthy. Its that your communication is one of pain nothing else. As such you are dangerous no doubt. Rage is a most unpredictable elixer. It does command a certain respect but it discredits your causes. No one deserves to live in pain. I am telling you that no matter what your sin you dont deserve to dwell in this place.

          THE
          BEST
          GIFT
          YOU
          CAN
          GIVE
          TO
          THE
          WORLD
          IS
          TO
          LOVE
          YOUR
          SELF

          • I think you are right. If you are too negative and demanding, it is hard for others to like you. Life gets to be very difficult.

          • Mirror on the wall says:

            Thanks, but I am not feeling ‘rage’ or ‘upset’ or anything. That is purely imaginary. Why would I ‘feel’ anything or even care? You may be assuming your own feelings onto my words and how you would ‘feel’ in that circumstance. But I am not you? My equilibrium is pretty high right now.

            • Tim Groves says:

              This is the first I’ve heard about Shamima being recruited by the British state into terrorism. I remember the moral outrage expressed in the mass media about how she and her friends had willingly left the UK and gone to support the Islamic State. But I haven’t followed her story.

              However, if it is true that she was recruited, that would put her into the same category of patsies as, for instance, the alleged 7/7 London bombers. The evidence gathered and assembled by independent investigators and researchers has proven pretty conclusively that 7/7 was a psy op and the alleged bombers were unwitting participants in it.

              If you were upset or outraged about that sort of callous, calculated exploitation and betrayal of naive individuals by state intelligence agencies, I would say it was quite understandable and that it did you credit.

              The only reason why I don’t get angry to the point of exploding like a volcano any more at this kind of injustice is that my nervous system can’t take the excitement. I have no intention of doing anything about it in any case, so engaging the full fight or flight response would only raise my blood pressure and send a surge of adrenalin and cortisol and whatever else though my veins and cause me to bring up bile.

              I also find it just as reprehensible that many normies, upon being informed of this kind of injustice, refuse to acknowledge that it occurs and simple imbibe the official narrative about such stories as if it was mother’s milk. I’m so tired of and so disappointed in normies, period.

            • >>>>The evidence gathered and assembled by independent investigators and researchers<<<<<<

              hmmmmmmm…we've discussed 'independent investigators and researchers' before. In fact there's one or three of those who hang out on OFW, who get mightily annoyed when their 'investigation and research' is shown to be based on nothing but loonytubes.

              They are no more than social media freaks, dreaming up a new nonsense stream to add to moonloonery, wtc wackery, shooting scams, climate change denial, Alex Jones adoration society, and all the rest of it.

              i read some of it—it reinforces my own (sometimes shaky) certainties.

            • Foolish Fitz says:

              “However, if it is true that she was recruited, that would put her into the same category of patsies as, for instance, the alleged 7/7 London bombers”

              Far worse I’m afraid Tim.

              She was groomed from the age of 13 and then sent abroad as a minor, with no letter of consent from her parents.

              Who authorised allowing a minor to leave the country to head to a war zone?

              I’m guessing, the same people that sent a royal navy warship to Libya to pick up Salman Abedi, as they needed him in Manchester.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/52142.The_Great_War_for_Civilisation

              I read this some years ago and the part that stays with me is when he asks the Palestinians how they can bring themselves to suicide bomb the Israelis…

              The answer — it’s as if you are in a boiling hot sauna and you cannot get out … blowing yourself up is like the door opening and someone handing you an ice cold glass of water.

              I kinda feel like this with CovIDIOTS… but no need to blow them up …

              The Super Strength Booster will do that job

              hahahahahahaha

            • postkey says:

              ” . . . Abedi and the other people rescued with him were British citizens, and that the UK government had an obligation to look after him and any other people who might be stranded away from their country.”
              https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/manchester-attack-salman-abedi-libya-tripoli-boat-enterprise-refugee-citizen-uk-a8470996.html

            • Tim Groves says:

              I see that the BBC has been giving this case a lot of sympathetic coverage.

              https://www.bbc.com/news/topics/c347vzp58nzt

              The Guardian is now questioning whether Shamima deserves to get her UK citizenship back, and even the Sun is starting to tell its readers that, according to a recent book, she may have been victimized and smuggled by an intelligence agent working for Canada.

              https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/19660967/shamima-begum-smuggled-into-syria-canada-western-spy/

          • Mirror on the wall says:

            How dare you!

            • Foolish Fitz says:

              postkey that’s a lovely bit of fiction from the I. There are many examples of this not being the case(the groomed girl?), so what was the great imperative this once?

              Abedi was certainly not alone in being rescued, but who else was, what was their purpose for being there, why were they given their passports back and allowed to travel there?

              “Several former rebel fighters now back in the UK told Middle East Eye that they had been able to travel to Libya with ‘no questions asked’. These dissident were then members of the LIFG and most were from Manchester. One said that, as he was travelling back to Libya in May 2011, he was approached by two counter-terrorism police officers in the departure lounge who told him that if he was going to fight he would be committing a crime. But after providing them with the name and phone number of an MI5 officer he had spoken to previously, and following a quick phone call to him, he was waved through. As he waited to board the plane, he said the same MI5 officer called him to tell him that he had “sorted it out”.”

              https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/the-manchester-bombing-as-blowback-the-latest-evidence-83ec2127801d?source=collection_archive———1———————–

              If you read, they do make it clear that they have no evidence that the SS facilitated his travel, so probably just another coincidence.

            • Mirror on the wall says:

              Why are you linking to an articlee from 2017? This is from today. She needs to be tried in UK, so that all of the facts can come out in court.

              You have got no business talking about other people’s ‘I’. You need to take a good look at your own ‘I’, and apologise for your attack on my person, not compound your own fault by persevering with it.

              If you are hostile to Shamima just because she is a Muslim, then just say so.

              > The case for bringing Shamima Begum back is now irrefutable

              The so-called Isis bride is a child victim of trafficking, not an international terrorist

              The latest revelations about security service collusion in respect of Ms Shamima Begum make alarming reading. It has been obvious from the outset that she and her foolish young friends were groomed. Now we discover that ministers knew she was a trafficking victim, transported by a terrorist group, but chose to strip her of her British citizenship regardless.

              Whatever your view of the bad teenage choices she made and the circumstances in which she made them, it is unconscionable to abandon her in the desert. She was born in Britain and trafficked, effectively for sex, at the age of 15 — below the lawful age of consent. And my goodness she has paid a price: three children dead, four years in a prison camp. There is a case for letting her come back on compassionate grounds alone.

              In the four years since she was discovered in a Kurdish-controlled detention camp in North-East Syria, pregnant, brainwashed by IS propaganda, traumatised by the deaths of her two small children and still only 19 years old, the Government has portrayed Ms Begum as an unrepentant terrorist and a threat to national security. Rather than bring her home, it has sought to cut her off from British justice and prevent her repatriation.

              This abdication of responsibility projects weakness, not strength. The legal, moral and security arguments for repatriating Ms Begum and the handful of other British women in her position are unanswerable. Ministers can only be persisting with this manifestly failed policy because they think it is good politics.

              Human trafficking was a cornerstone of the ISIS state-building project. Vulnerable young women and girls were targeted and coerced or deceived into travelling. On arrival, they were locked in “women’s houses” then forced into marriage, domestic servitude and sexual slavery.

              During the inquiry of the APPG on Trafficked Britons in Syria, which I chair alongside the former head of Britain’s diplomatic service, Lord Jay, we learned that UK institutions systematically failed to prevent this vile trade. Public authorities failed to identify at-risk individuals, failed to notify the families of girls being groomed, and failed to prevent them leaving the country.

              The Government is justifiably proud of its efforts to combat trafficking, underpinned by the Modern Slavery Act 2015- but there is a blind spot when it comes to ISIS. Steve Harvey, who led anti-trafficking units at the Met and Europol, told our inquiry “it is the state’s responsibility to identify victims of trafficking”. Despite being presented with volumes of evidence that British women and children were trafficked to Syria, the Home Office has refused even to assess which of the British women in NES may be victims.

              The Government should now change course. Its do-nothing policy is badly out of step with our allies who, following the USA’s lead, are repatriating their nationals from the region In March, Germany brought 37 women and children home. In July, France repatriated 51. The US has called the UK’s position a “dereliction of responsibility” and our Kurdish allies in the fight against ISIS view it as a betrayal.

              Some of the women will have cases to answer, but that is a determination for the Crown Prosecution Service to make and for British courts to adjudicate. As the former Director of Global Counter Terrorism Operations at MI6, Richard Barrett, wrote in this newspaper: “the only way to reduce the potential threat from British nationals in these detention facilities is to repatriate them and either prosecute them or reintegrate them into society, working within a rule of law framework.”

              This is the growing consensus of security officials, at home and abroad. It is also morally the right thing to do. There is still time for our government to remedy its mistakes.

              Rt Hon Andrew Mitchell is Conservative MP for Sutton Coldfield and Co-Chair of the All Party Parliamentary Group on Trafficked Britons in Syria

              https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/09/01/case-bringing-shamima-begum-back-now-irrefutable/

      • Adonis says:

        Tarzan says go lookum Wikipedia Jane

  36. Student says:

    US life expectancy lowest level in nearly 30 years
    Life expectancy tumbles as the United States

    Significant in the figures were also deaths from heart issues, chronic liver disease…

    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/359060

  37. Fast Eddy says:

    Have a look at the comments on any substack and you will seldom find anyone exhibiting any proper intelligence… and these are probably the most intelligent circus animals you are likely to find

    Stephanie
    43 min ago
    BIDEN IS MURDERING OUR BABIES! BLOOD IS ON HIM AMERICA!! NEVER FORGET!!!! ALL BECAUSE THEY WANT ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS TO VOTE DEMOCRAT WITH THEIR ILLEGAL SS CARDS THEY ARE GIVEN AS THEY INVADE OUR COUNTRY! WHERE ARE THE REAL HEROES OF THIS COUNTRY??????

    JamesDuff
    Writes JamesDuff’s Newsletter
    5 min ago
    The Biden crime family does not care how they murder people. They will try to use their name

    To add to their voting ghost list tho.

    https://palexander.substack.com/p/rainbow-fentanyl-i-warn-parents-again/comments

  38. Fast Eddy says:

    RAINBOW Fentanyl, I warn parents again, these people are targeting children, this fentanyl will kill your child, talk to them TONIGHT if they see these skittle colored pills or looks like CHALK

    Fentanyl is coming from Wuhan China, same birthplace of COVID virus, sent into South America where it is assembled into the pills (where other medications are laced with Fentanyl), and into US; DEATH!

    Sit your kids down as school has started and talk to them. Tonight.

    Tell them under no condition are they to touch this. None! It will kill them near immediate!

    It looks like chalk and children may mistakenly pick it up, will kill them if they touch. It looks like skittles and candy, this will kill them quickly. Looks like candy, it is NOT!

    I do not know why the Biden administration has been silent and have done nothing to stop this.

    https://palexander.substack.com/p/rainbow-fentanyl-i-warn-parents-again

    But when Holodomor begins… feed this to them… tell them it’s candy

    • banned says:

      Wake up to a cloudy day
      Dark rolls in and it starts to rain
      Staring out to the cage-like walls
      Time goes by and the shadows crawl
      Crushin’ candy crushin’ pills
      Got no job, mom pays my bills
      Textin’ ex’s get my fill
      Sweatin’ bullets, Netflix-chills
      World’s out there singin’ the blues
      Twenty more dead on the evening news
      Think to myself “really, what’s the use?”
      I’m just like you, I was born to lose

      Why oh why can’t you just fix me?
      When all I want’s to feel numb
      But the medication’s all done
      Why oh why does God hate me?
      When all I want’s to get high
      And forget this so-called life

      I am so freakin’ bored
      Nothin’ to do today
      I guess I’ll sit around and medicate (medicate)
      I am so freakin’ bored
      Nothing to do today
      I guess I’ll sit around and medicate (medicate)

      Can’t wait to feel better than I ever will
      Attack that shit like a kid on Benadryl
      Chase it down with a hopeful smile
      Hate myself, if I can go for miles
      They say family’s all you need
      Someone to trust can help you breathe
      Inhale that drug, but you start to choke
      You follow the outs of an inside joke

      Why oh why can’t you just fix me?
      When all I want’s to feel numb
      But the medication’s all done
      Why oh why does God hate me?
      ‘Cause I’ve seen enough of it, heard enough of it, felt enough of it
      Had enough of it!

      I am so freakin’ bored
      Nothing to do today
      I guess I’ll sit around and medicate (medicate)
      I am so freakin’ bored
      Nothing to do today
      I guess I’ll sit around and medicate

      Medicate
      Medicate
      Medicate
      Medicate

      Superman is a hero
      But only when his mind is clear though
      He needs that fix like the rest of us
      So he’s got no fear when he saves that bus
      All the stars in the Hollywood Hills
      Snapchat live while they pop them pills
      All those flavors of the rainbow
      Too bad that shit don’t work though

      Your friends are high right now
      Your parents are high right now
      That hot chick’s high right now
      That cop is high right now
      The president’s high right now
      Your priest is high right now
      Everyone’s high as f*ck right now
      And no one’s ever coming down

      I am so freakin’ bored
      Nothing to do today
      I guess I’ll sit around and medicate (medicate)
      I am so freakin’ bored
      Nothing to do today
      I guess I’ll sit around and medicate

      Medicate
      Medicate
      Medicate
      Medicate

      https://www.bitchute.com/video/UPDMSAHlf7Lo/

      • I am worried about the author of these lyrics.

        • banned says:

          I dont disagree that the lyrics are dark. That darkness resonates with many people. You mentioned despair earlier. Its not despair its acceptance of a life that has no meaning. It may be dark but it is honest. While I dont agree with the songs premise I prefer dark and honest to fake happy fake goals, fake life. This is the world as many see it. The song acknowledges that drug use is a poor solution yet seems to indicate that it sees no alternative.

          The thing about addicts if they survive they really appreciate life.

          It spent 5 weeks top of the charts.

          https://headlineplanet.com/home/2017/11/12/theory-deadmans-rx-medicate-enjoys-5th-week-active-rock-radios-1-song/

          • Fast Eddy says:

            he’s working on a follow up single … working title is … Rainbow Fentanyl…. or maybe Pink Fentanyl…. Candied Fentanyl?

            • banned says:

              I posted it because it had a rainbow reference.

              “All the stars in the Hollywood Hills
              Snapchat live while they pop them pills
              All those flavors of the rainbow
              Too bad that shit don’t work though”

              Im not sure anyone could accuse Fent of not working though. Its a work horse. (pun intended) The ride is straight to hell on earth.

              The trouble is when your young you cant imagine that something can be stronger than your will power. Risk takers tend to be successful. Most everyone who plays with this shit becomes a casualty. There might be pragmatic reasons for having it around. Its still like keeping a cobra in your house. Sure never take the lid off the basket and your safe. But if you get to wondering one night might I be a snake charmer… BIT. Just like every other fool. BIT BIT BIT. All took the lid off the basket and all bit. Go figure. All doing the goony dance in Kensington.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              F will be your best friend… if UEP fails… when those vicious killers are hammering on your door .. with intent to murder rape and eat … reach for The Death Candy…

              Or better still… when the power goes off permanently .. and you are cowering in the dark… terrified… remember… you have just gone back in time a couple of hundred years… the lights will never go back on … the super markets are empty…

              Why fight it? Take the easy way out… why not. There will be nothing but misery … and suffering .. if you don’t

            • banned says:

              Carbon monoxide kills faster. It removes the ability of your blood to absorb oxygen. Ill plumb a genset exhaust to a respirator if it comes to that. No law risk and no cobra in the house. No delusion that that F is a pleasant way to go. Ill put some my little pony stickers on the gen set to compete with the rainbow F. Somehow I dont think it will go down like that but you never know. Im not going to get all flitterpated about some god damn synthetic narcotic made in a f***ING Chinese lab painted pink thats turning peoples lives into living hell.

              Ya know Eddy I have been enjoying your posts here for about 14 years now. I have the tinyest bit of experience with this. More lives than I have fingers gone. Some were losers. Some were not. Snake dont discriminate. Bit is bit. Dont take the lid off the basket. Its none of my business but it would bother me. Theres M fast and that pup. Isnt that worth something?

        • Xabier says:

          Perhaps writing them was therapeutic or cathartic?

      • Agamemnon says:

        It’s not playing right now. But I think Statlers could make it good:
        https://youtu.be/W6DmeR9a6ig

      • Fast Eddy says:

        This is why people really enjoy heroin addiction

        ‘Junkie’ comes to mind

        https://youtu.be/DnxweVAvE5w

  39. Minority of One says:

    Charlbi Dean: Tributes to film and TV ‘star-in-the-making’ after death at 32
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-62735665

    ‘Dean’s representatives said her death in hospital from a sudden unexpected illness was “devastating”.’

    This has been on the main page of BBC News all day.
    ‘unexpected illness’, the leading cause of death in some places these days.

  40. Fast Eddy says:

    Speaking of being so easily controlled:

    What is really going on? A New System of Slavery and Control.
    Centralisation of Economic and Political Control: Catherine Austin-Fitts puts it altogether and it leads to one place – slavery. The antidote: stop building the transhumanist system for “Mr Global”!

    https://metatron.substack.com/p/what-is-really-going-on-a-new-system

    Not even the slightest clue that we are running out of cheap energy. That Ukey War sure is effective!

    The entire anti-vax community is piling into this delusion… where did they get it from?

    Of course … the MSM fed it to them…. they came right out and proclaimed — this is what we are doing. And the MOREONS (most anti-vaxxers are MOREONS) lapped it up like the clueless imbeciles that they are.

    They even dressed up Klaus in a super villain outfit — and one can point out that this has Hollywood psyop written all over it … but nope — the WEF is the devil and we’re being yoked.. cuz?

    https://newsvoice.se/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Klaus-Schwab-Blofelt.jpg

    • Jane says:

      Monopoly Feudalism.

      The original kind had multiple layers and the reality on the ground was complicated by local conditions. The church also had a role in the hierarchy plus it was a bit off to the side.
      https://zainabh9g2.weebly.com/the-feudal-society.html

      Monopoly Feudalism has, ideally, just two hierarchical layers: The Central Global Power and the Peons
      The Central Global Power has direct access to and control of each individual Peon on the planet.

      BUT it will take time and, probably, a lot of electricity to reach this ideal state of stasis, when all actors between the Central Global Power and the Peons will have been eliminated.

      Until that time Traditional national leaders have been gradually replaced with Central Global Power Puppets who act on behalf of the Central Global Power. At some point in the future, after the Puppets have created the preconditions needed for the Central Global Power to take over complete control of the Peons, the Puppets will be instructed to self-destruct.

      They will be ordered to travel on a luxury jets to a pleasant island in the Caribbean—or, perhaps New Zealand—to spend the rest of their days there—after their brains have been washed and wiped by AI-controlled robot stewardesses during the flight. .

  41. Herbie Ficklestein says:

    What might a society without oil and gas look like?
    28,872 views · 1 day ago

    Fox Business

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hMnF9RYXj4E

    Florida Rep. Carlos Gimenez explains what he believes is the solution to America’s energy crisis on ‘The Evening Edit.’ #foxbusiness #theeveningedit

    • Representative Gemenez seems to think that the US can raise oil and gas production to solve our problems. I’m doubtful of that, but I agree that Biden’s approach is not working either.

      Gemenez says that we don’t have the infrastructure to charge electric cars. I agree. We can’t raise electricity generation much above what it is today. We would need to run two parallel systems, at significant cost.

      • Jan says:

        To me the idea to start nationwide or global initiatives to invest into exploration and extraction seems logically.

        If we see the financial system as a whole it seems as if the investments into extraction cannot be raised by the current capitalist system. So a command economy seems to be near, the Great Reset is just a variant of that.

        The idea though that we control, how many bread, milk and shoes the individual shops while energy is burdened by mineral tax, CO2 tax and VAT plus speculative fees and profits seems odd to me.

        It seems logical that the energy companies will be nationalized or partly set under a command rule. So the states can monitor the investments needed and the energy available and concentrate the command economy on the main decisions while mitigating to a lower demand of energy. Privateers could keep decisions if they wanna buy milk or crickets some more time – before the states finally crash which seems unavoidable. A war economy wouldn’t start with customer loyalty cards.

        Looking to the city of Vienna, Austria, with roughly 2 mio inhabitants the public hand has now paid 0.7 + 0.7 + 2 = 3.4 bio EUR to ‘rescue’ the municipal energy provider and it is rumour that debts could be 10.000.000.000 to 16.000.000.000 EURs in total – most of it probably due to speculation. This money could have been invested into machinery or exploration. Of course, corruption is another topic.

  42. https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/china-aggressively-reselling-russian-gas-europe

    China Is Aggressively Reselling Russian Gas To Europe

    What was behind this bizarre surge in Russian LNG imports, analysts speculated? After all, while China imports over half of the natural gas it consumes, with around two-thirds in the form of LNG, demand this year had fallen sharply amid economic headwinds and widespread shutdowns. In other words, why the surge in Russian LNG when i) domestic demand is just not there and ii) at the expense of everyone else?

    “The increase in Russian LNG could be a displacement of cargoes going to Japan or South Korea because of sanctions, or weaker demand there,” said Michal Meidan, director of the China Energy Programme at the Oxford Institute for Energy Studies.

    One thing that was clear: China wanted to keep its arms-length gas dealing with Russia as unclear as possible, which is why the General Administration of Customs of China stopped publicizing the breakdown in trade volume for pipeline natural gas since the beginning of the year, with spokesman Li Kuiwen confirming that the move was to “protect the legitimate business rights and interests of the relevant importers and exporters”.

    Well, we now know the answer: China has been quietly reselling that evil, tainted Russian LNG to the one place that desperately needs it more than anything. Europe… and of course, it is charging a kidney’s worth of markups in the process.

    The article seems to be backed up by a Financial Times article:
    https://www.ft.com/content/1e20467a-5b53-42b7-ad89-49808f7e1780

    China throws Europe an energy lifeline with LNG resales

    • Mirror on the wall says:

      That looks like weakness and as such I have to condemn it absolutely.

      All weakness will be punished in this world.

      • Kowalainen says:

        Don’t be naive.

        The “back channel” LNG surely arrives with some terms and conditions.

      • Tim Groves says:

        Mirror, the punishment in this case will probably be in the form of having to pay through the nose via an intermediary for what could have been obtained much more cheaply directly from the producer.

        I don’t understand your condemnation of weakness in general. Do you think that in the case of European nations these days, their weakness is avoidable? Do you view it as a character flaw? However it came about, isn’t it simply a historical reality at this point?

    • Alex says:

      Yet another sign that China’s current problem is economic recession, not some super-secret deficit of resources.

      • Actually, a deficit of resources is likely to give rise to economic recession.

      • Adonis says:

        Why would Russia sell to China who would then sell to Europe it sounds quite wasteful and silly to do it this way is it because our leaders are suffering from some mental illness which leads to strange outcomes i am sure that is the problem our leaders have gone crazeee i feel sorry for them poor crazeee leaders

  43. Mirror on the wall says:

    Tim, loved your tunes. I love old music, you got that right anyway.

    Some of what you are citing as ‘English’ sounds a bit flat to my ears, likely a late continental flowback?

    Irish historical sounds ‘brighter’, if only due to the ‘Ulster-Scots’ influence?

    The future of Britain lies with the Scots?

    • Mirror on the wall says:

      Anyways, this is how ‘English’ music sounds these days.

      Fire, we burn the place down!

      So nonsense is over….

      • Mirror on the wall says:

        If you are so ‘British’ then how comes you live at the other end of the world, getting drunk and pretending that you still have any ‘special’ connection to the place more than other people?

        • Mirror on the wall says:

          “If you stare into the abyss for long enough then it stares right back into you….” – FN

          Do you like it Chavier?

        • Tim Groves says:

          If you are so ‘British’ then how comes you live at the other end of the world, getting drunk and pretending that you still have any ‘special’ connection to the place more than other people?

          If this question is aimed at me, then I’ll try to answer it.

          I haven’t gotten drunk in quite a few years.

          I do have a “special” connection to the place—not more special than other people, but special all the same.

          I was born and grew up in London and lived and worked there until I was 23 years old. Actually, I attended the same secondary school as Shamima Begum and the Kray twins did, although not at the same time.

          What this means is that my “Operating System” is British, as opposed to French or American or anything else. My language, my accent, my sense of humor, my sense of ethics, my sense of pride and modesty, decency and indecency, the bits of my instinct that are socially programmable—all that are British, or English, or Cockney.

          Moreover, being human, I can’t exist psychologically naked in the world but am forced to cloak myself in an identity that feels authentic, natural and comfortable to me. Since I was molded into a British, English, and Cockney as a child, or else that culture (in the E.T. Hall sense of the word) entered into my soul (or mind or psyche if you prefer) by osmosis at a time when the soul is uniquely wide open to receiving such culture, it is much much easier to stick to playing this character than to try to become something else.

          If I had moved to one of the Five Eyes countries, I might have felt under some kind of social pressure to shed my British skin and affect or adopt the manners and customs of the locals, but in moving to Japan there is no such social pressure—quite the reverse. Even after forty years here there is no chance of me successfully “turning Japanese”. That would be the ethnic equivalent of transgenderism. Nobody would try to stop me, but I would get a lot of funny looks in the street.

          Many years ago I met a man from close to Manchester who had been living in Japan for forty years. I recognized his accent and pointed out that after all this time away he still sounded like a character from Coronation Street. He replied that it was true, but that at his age that sort of thing didn’t matter—it was as superficial as the lines or scars on his hands or face.

          I didn’t ask him if he identified as British, thinking that too personal a question, or whether national identification was important to him. But unless he had developed into a post-cultural human being that needed no anchor to maintain his position ad his bearings in the Universe, then he must have identified as something.

          And it is said that if you were born within the sound of Bow Bells, you have the necessary qualifications to be considered to be a Londoner…..

          • Tim

            when you lose the conspiratitis symptoms, you write some interesting stuff

          • Mirror on the wall says:

            OK, it is not the part of London from which I originally hail but my travels have taken me there a few times.

            I was just ribbing you in response to some of the ribbing that you have given me. You obviously realised that, as did others.

            ‘No harm, no foul.’

            Cheers!

            And thanks for the music as always.

    • Mirror on the wall says:

      Mirror speaks and everyone takes the knee before God. Quote right….

      • Kowalainen says:

        A picture of Icarus flashed before my inner eye. Dunno what it meant. Could Mirror perhaps fill in the detail about Icarus?

        🤷‍♂️

        • Mirror on the wall says:

          It was a joke based on some of the pictures in the first video.

          The banter between Brits can likely be difficult for others to follow at times.

          Sometimes one of us has a go, sometimes another.

          A good clue is that none of us came of it stressed.

          • Kowalainen says:

            Yes, I admit being oblivious to most nuance and antics of Britishness. My crude English surely doesn’t do it any favor, either.

            It’s all good.
            👍

      • Tim Groves says:

        So these Irish guys are fighting for the South. Did they ever take on the Fighting 69th?

        Mirror, what do you think of Talitha McKenzie? I think she’s great. Makes me want to identify as a bold Scotsman!

      • Tim Groves says:

        Seinn O!

        Listen to this at maximum volume and your world may never be the same again!

      • Tim Groves says:

        Ajde Jano

        And that completes your weekend listening assignment.

    • Tim Groves says:

      The Fighting 69th? I doff my cap to them. Initially composed of Catholic Irish immigrants to the New World, they fought for the North against the South in the US Civil War.

      The unit was dubbed “that fighting 69th Regiment” by Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee, after he witnessed their charge at the Battle of Fredericksburg in 1862.

      The unit’s Soldiers also distinguished themselves in World War I, World War II, and during combat deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan since Sept. 11, 2001.

      https://www.nationalguard.mil/News/Article/1465671/fighting-69th-leads-st-patricks-parade-for-167th-time/

    • Tim Groves says:

      The melody is very familiar to me. It’s “Star of the County Down”.

      According to Irish Music Daily: Star of the County Down describes a young man’s love for a beautiful girl. Whatever we think of his methods we can’t question his devotion. As soon as he sees her he vows that he will make her his bride.

      He won’t yoke his horse or turn his plough; he won’t even smoke his pipe until he makes the Star of the County Down his bride and has her sitting by his fireside.

      We never find out whether he wins the girl and makes her his bride. Perhaps he does, but perhaps, like many lovesick young men, he spends a long time planning his moves and never actually carries them out. We are left to make up our own minds.

      The melody is an old Irish ballad dating back hundreds of years. It was used for several songs, the best known perhaps being My Love Nell, before it became associated with the Star of the County Down.

  44. banned says:

    Norman “Pangolin” Pagget.

    AKA “the Pang”.

    Heavyweight champion of the world!

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