Ramping up wind turbines, solar panels and electric vehicles can’t solve our energy problem

Many people believe that installing more wind turbines and solar panels and manufacturing more electric vehicles can solve our energy problem, but I don’t agree with them. These devices, plus the batteries, charging stations, transmission lines and many other structures necessary to make them work represent a high level of complexity.

A relatively low level of complexity, such as the complexity embodied in a new hydroelectric dam, can sometimes be used to solve energy problems, but we cannot expect ever-higher levels of complexity to always be achievable.

According to the anthropologist Joseph Tainter, in his well-known book, The Collapse of Complex Societies, there are diminishing returns to added complexity. In other words, the most beneficial innovations tend to be found first. Later innovations tend to be less helpful. Eventually the energy cost of added complexity becomes too high, relative to the benefit provided.

In this post, I will discuss complexity further. I will also present evidence that the world economy may already have hit complexity limits. Furthermore, the popular measure, “Energy Return on Energy Investment” (EROEI) pertains to direct use of energy, rather than energy embodied in added complexity. As a result, EROEI indications tend to suggest that innovations such as wind turbines, solar panels and EVs are more helpful than they really are. Other measures similar to EROEI make a similar mistake.

[1] In this video with Nate Hagens, Joseph Tainter explains how energy and complexity tend to grow simultaneously, in what Tainter calls the Energy-Complexity Spiral.

Figure 1. The Energy-Complexity Spiral from 2010 presentation called The Energy-Complexity Spiral by Joseph Tainter.

According to Tainter, energy and complexity build on each other. At first, growing complexity can be helpful to a growing economy by encouraging the uptake of available energy products. Unfortunately, this growing complexity reaches diminishing returns because the easiest, most beneficial solutions are found first. When the benefit of added complexity becomes too small relative to the additional energy required, the overall economy tends to collapse–something he says is equivalent to “rapidly losing complexity.”

Growing complexity can make goods and services less expensive in several ways:

  • Economies of scale arise due to larger businesses.
  • Globalization allows use of alternative raw materials, cheaper labor and energy products.
  • Higher education and more specialization allow more innovation.
  • Improved technology allows goods to be less expensive to manufacture.
  • Improved technology may allow fuel savings for vehicles, allowing ongoing fuel savings.

Strangely enough, in practice, growing complexity tends to lead to more fuel use, rather than less. This is known as Jevons’ Paradox. If products are less expensive, more people can afford to buy and operate them, so that total energy consumption tends to be greater.

[2] In the above linked video, one way Professor Tainter describes complexity is that it is something that adds structure and organization to a system.

The reason I consider electricity from wind turbines and solar panels to be much more complex than, say, electricity from hydroelectric plants, or from fossil fuel plants, is because the output from the devices is further from what is needed to fill the demands of the electricity system we currently have operating. Wind and solar generation need complexity to fix their intermittency problems.

With hydroelectric generation, water is easily captured behind a dam. Often, some of the water can be stored for later use when demand is high. The water captured behind the dam can be run through a turbine, so that the electrical output matches the pattern of alternating current used in the local area. The electricity from a hydroelectric dam can be quickly added to other available electricity generation to match the pattern of electricity consumption users would prefer.

On the other hand, the output of wind turbines and solar panels requires a great deal more assistance (“complexity”) to match the electricity consumption pattern of consumers. Electricity from wind turbines tends to be very disorganized. It comes and goes according to its own schedule. Electricity from solar panels is organized, but the organization is not well aligned with the pattern of consumers prefer.

A major issue is that electricity for heating is required in winter, but solar electricity is disproportionately available in the summer; wind availability is irregular. Batteries can be added, but these mostly mitigate wrong “time-of-day” problems. Wrong “time-of-year” problems need to be mitigated with a lightly used parallel system. The most popular backup system seems to be natural gas, but backup systems with oil or coal can also be used.

This double system has a higher cost than either system would have if operated alone, on a full-time basis. For example, a natural gas system with pipelines and storage needs to be put in place, even if electricity from natural gas is only used for part of the year. The combined system needs experts in all areas, including electricity transmission, natural gas generation, repair of wind turbines and solar panels, and battery manufacture and maintenance. All of this requires educational systems and international trade, sometimes with unfriendly countries.

I also consider electric vehicles to be complex. One major problem is that the economy will require a double system, (for internal combustion engines and electric vehicles) for many, many years. Electric vehicles require batteries made using elements from around the world. They also need a whole system of charging stations to fill their need for frequent recharging.

[3] Professor Tainter makes the point that complexity has an energy cost, but this cost is virtually impossible to measure.

Energy needs are hidden in many areas. For example, to have a complex system, we need a financial system. The cost of this system cannot be added back in. We need modern roads and a system of laws. The cost of a government providing these services cannot be easily discerned. An increasingly complex system needs education to support it, but this cost is also hard to measure. Also, as we note elsewhere, having double systems adds other costs that are hard to measure or predict.

[3] The energy-complexity spiral cannot continue forever in an economy.

The energy-complexity spiral can reach limits in at least three ways:

[a] Extraction of minerals of all kinds is placed in the best locations first. Oil wells are first placed in areas where oil is easy to extract and close to population areas. Coal mines are first placed in locations where coal is easy to extract and transportation costs to users will be low. Mines for lithium, nickel, copper, and other minerals are put in the best-yielding locations first.

Eventually, the cost of energy production rises, rather than falls, due to diminishing returns. Oil, coal, and energy products become more expensive. Wind turbines, solar panels, and batteries for electric vehicles also tend to become more expensive because the cost of the minerals to manufacture them rises. All kinds of energy goods, including “renewables,” tend to become less affordable. In fact, there are many reports that the cost of producing wind turbines and solar panels rose in 2022, making the manufacture of these devices unprofitable. Either higher prices of finished devices or lower profitability for those producing the devices could stop the rise in usage.

[b] Human population tends to keep rising if food and other supplies are adequate, but the supply of arable land stays close to constant. This combination puts pressure on society to produce a continuous stream of innovations that will allow greater food supply per acre. These innovations eventually reach diminishing returns, making it more difficult for food production to keep up with population growth. Sometimes adverse fluctuations in weather patterns make it clear that food supplies have been too close to the minimum level for many years. The growth spiral is pushed down by spiking food prices and the poor health of workers who can only afford an inadequate diet.

[c] Growth in complexity reaches limits. The earliest innovations tend to be most productive. For example, electricity can be invented only once, as can the light bulb. Globalization can only go so far before a maximum level is reached. I think of debt as part of complexity. At some point, debt cannot be repaid with interest. Higher education (needed for specialization) reaches limits when workers cannot find jobs with sufficiently high wages to repay educational loans, besides covering living costs.

[4] One point Professor Tainter makes is that if the available energy supply is reduced, the system will need to simplify.

Typically, an economy grows for well over one hundred years, reaches energy-complexity limits, and then collapses over a period of years. This collapse can occur in different ways. A layer of government can collapse. I think of the collapse of the central government of the Soviet Union in 1991 as a form of collapse to a lower level of simplicity. Or one country conquers another country (with energy-complexity problems), taking over the government and resources of the other country. Or a financial collapse occurs.

Tainter says that simplification usually doesn’t happen voluntarily. One example he gives of voluntary simplification involves the Byzantine Empire in the 7th century. With less funding available for the military, it abandoned some of its distant posts, and it used a less costly approach to operating its remaining posts.

[5] In my opinion, it is easy for EROEI calculations (and similar calculations) to overstate the benefit of complex types of energy supply.

A major point that Professor Tainter makes in the talk linked above is that complexity has an energy cost, but the energy cost of this complexity is virtually impossible to measure. He also makes the point that growing complexity is seductive; the overall cost of complexity tends to grow over time. Models tend to miss necessary parts of the overall system needed to support a highly complex new source of energy supply.

Because the energy required for complexity is hard to measure, EROEI calculations with respect to complex systems will tend to make complex forms of electricity generation, such as wind and solar, look like they use less energy (have a higher EROEI) than they actually do. The problem is that EROEI calculations consider only direct “energy investment” costs. For example, the calculations are not designed to collect information regarding the higher energy cost of a dual system, with parts of the system under-utilized for portions of the year. Annual costs will not necessarily be reduced proportionately.

In the linked video, Professor Tainter talks about the EROEI of oil over the years. I don’t have a problem with this type of comparison, especially if it stops before the recent change to greater use of fracking, since the level of complexity is similar. In fact, such a comparison omitting fracking seems to be the one that Tainter makes. Comparison among different energy types, with different complexity levels, is what is easily distorted.

[6] The current world economy already seems to be trending in the direction of simplification, suggesting that the tendency toward greater complexity is already past its maximum level, given the lack of availability of inexpensive energy products.

I wonder if we are already starting to see simplification in trade, especially international trade, because shipping (generally using oil products) is becoming high-priced. This might be considered a type of simplification, in response to a lack of sufficient inexpensive energy supply.

Figure 2. Trade as a percentage of world GDP, based on data of the World Bank.

Based on Figure 2, trade as a percentage of GDP hit a peak in 2008. There has been a generally downward trend in trade since then, giving an indication that the world economy has tended to shrink back, at least in some ways, as it has hit high-price limits.

Another example of a trend toward lower complexity is the drop in US undergraduate college and university enrollment since 2010. Other data shows that undergraduate enrollment nearly tripled between 1950 and 2010, so the shift to a downtrend after 2010 presents a major turning point.

Figure 3. Total number of US full-time and part-time undergraduate college and university students, according to the National Center for Education Statistics.

The reason why the shift in enrollment is a problem is because colleges and universities have a huge amount of fixed expenses. These include buildings and grounds that must be maintained. Often debt needs to be repaid, as well. Educational systems also have tenured faculty members that they are obligated to keep on their staff, under most circumstances. They may have pension obligations that are not fully funded, adding another cost pressure.

According to the college faculty members whom I have talked to, in recent years there has been pressure to improve the retention rate of students who have been admitted. In other words, they feel that they are being encouraged to keep current students from dropping out, even if it means lowering their standards a little. At the same time, faculty wages are not keeping pace with inflation.

Other information suggests that colleges and universities have recently put a great deal of emphasis on achieving a more diverse student body. Students who might not have been admitted in the past because of low high school grades are increasingly being admitted in order to keep the enrollment from dropping further.

From the students’ point of view, the problem is that jobs that pay a sufficiently high wage to justify the high cost of a college education are increasingly unavailable. This seems to be the reason for both the US student debt crisis and the drop in undergraduate enrollment.

Of course, if colleges are at least somewhat lowering their admission standards and perhaps lowering standards for graduation, as well, there is a need to “sell” these increasingly diverse graduates with somewhat lower undergraduate achievement records to governments and businesses who might hire them. It seems to me that this is a further sign of the loss of complexity.

[7] In 2022, the total energy costs for most OECD countries started spiking to high levels, relative to GDP. When we analyze the situation, electricity prices are spiking, as are the prices of coal and natural gas–the two types of fuel used most frequently to produce electricity.

Figure 4. Chart from article called, Energy expenditures have surged, posing challenges for policymakers, by two OECD economists.

The OECD is an intergovernmental organization of mostly rich countries that was formed to stimulate economic progress and foster world growth. It includes the US, most European countries, Japan, Australia, and Canada, among other countries. Figure 4, with the caption “Periods of high energy expenditures are often associated with recession” is has been prepared by two economists working for OECD. The gray bars indicate recession.

Figure 4 shows that in 2021, prices for practically every cost segment associated with energy consumption tended to spike. Electricity, coal, and natural gas prices were all very high relative to prior years. The only segment of energy costs that was not very out of line relative to costs in prior years was oil. Coal and natural gas are both used to make electricity, so high electricity costs should not be surprising.

In Figure 4, the caption by the economists from OECD is pointing out what should be obvious to economists everywhere: High energy prices often push an economy into recession. Citizens are forced to cut back on non-essentials, reducing demand and pushing their economies into recession.

[8] The world seems to be up against extraction limits for coal. This, together with the high cost of shipping coal over long distances, is leading to very high prices for coal.

World coal production has been close to flat since 2011. Growth in electricity generation from coal has been almost as flat as world coal production. Indirectly, this lack of growth in coal production is forcing utilities around the world to move to other types of electricity generation.

Figure 5. World coal mined and world electricity generation from coal, based on data from BP’s 2022 Statistical Review of World Energy.

[9] Natural gas is now also in short supply when growing demand of many types is considered.

While natural gas production has been growing, in recent years it hasn’t been growing quickly enough to keep up with the world’s rising demand for natural gas imports. World natural gas production in 2021 was only 1.7% higher than production in 2019.

Growth in the demand for natural gas imports comes from several directions, simultaneously:

  • With coal supply flat and imports not sufficiently available, countries are seeking to substitute natural gas generation for coal generation of electricity. China is the world’s largest importer of natural gas partly for this reason.
  • Countries with electricity from wind or solar find that electricity from natural gas can ramp up quickly and fill in when wind and solar aren’t available.
  • There are several countries, including Indonesia, India and Pakistan, whose natural gas production is declining.
  • Europe chose to end its pipeline imports of natural gas from Russia and now needs more LNG instead.

[10] Prices for natural gas are extremely variable, depending on whether the natural gas is locally produced, and depending on how it is shipped and the type of contract it is under. Generally, locally produced natural gas is the least expensive. Coal has somewhat similar issues, with locally produced coal being the least expensive.

This is a chart from a recent Japanese publication (IEEJ).

Figure 6. Comparison of natural gas prices in three parts of the world from the Japanese publication IEEJ, dated January 23, 2023.

The low Henry Hub price at the bottom is the US price, available only locally. If supplies are high within the US, its price tends to be low. The next higher price is Japan’s price for imported liquefied natural gas (LNG), arranged under long-term contracts, over a period of years. The top price is the price that Europe is paying for LNG based on “spot market” prices. Spot market LNG is the only type of LNG available to those who did not plan ahead.

In recent years, Europe has been taking its chances on getting low spot market prices, but this approach can backfire badly when there is not enough to go around. Note that the high price of European imported LNG was already evident in January 2013, before the Ukraine invasion began.

A major issue is that shipping natural gas is extremely expensive, tending to at least double or triple the price to the user. Producers need to be guaranteed a high price for LNG over the long term to make all of the infrastructure needed to produce and ship natural gas as LNG profitable. The extremely variable prices for LNG have been a problem for natural gas producers.

The very high recent prices for LNG in Europe have made the price of natural gas too high for industrial users who need natural gas for processes other than making electricity, such as making nitrogen fertilizer. These high prices cause distress from the lack of inexpensive natural gas to spill over into the farming sector.

Most people are “energy blind,” especially when it comes to coal and natural gas. They assume that there is plenty of both fuels to be cheaply extracted, essentially forever. Unfortunately, for both coal and natural gas, the cost of shipping tends to be very high. This is something that modelers miss. It is the high delivered cost of natural gas and coal that makes it impossible for companies to actually extract the amounts of coal and natural gas that seem to be available based on reserve estimates.

[10] When we analyze electricity consumption in recent years, we discover that OECD and non-OECD countries have had amazingly different patterns of electricity consumption growth since 2001.

OECD electricity consumption has been close to flat, especially since 2008. Even before 2008, its electricity consumption was not growing rapidly.

The proposal now is to increase the use of electricity in OECD countries. Electricity will be used to a greater extent for fueling vehicles and heating homes. It will also to be used more for local manufacturing, especially for batteries and semiconductor chips. I wonder how OECD countries will be able to ramp up electricity production sufficiently to cover both current uses of electricity and planned new uses, if past electricity production has been essentially flat.

Figure 7. Electricity production by type of fuel for OECD countries, based on data from BP’s 2022 Statistical Review of World Energy.

Figure 7 shows that coal’s share of electricity production has been falling for OECD countries, especially since 2008. “Other” has been rising, but only enough to keep overall production flat. Other is comprised of renewables, including wind and solar, plus electricity from oil and from burning of trash. The latter categories are small.

The pattern of recent energy production for non-OECD countries is very different:

Figure 8. Electricity production by type of fuel for non-OECD countries, based on data from BP’s 2022 Statistical Review of World Energy.

Figure 8 shows that non-OECD countries have been rapidly ramping up electricity production from coal. Other major sources of fuel are natural gas and electricity produced by hydroelectric dams. All these energy sources are relatively non-complex. Electricity from locally produced coal, locally produced natural gas, and hydroelectric generation all tend to be quite inexpensive. With these inexpensive sources of electricity, non-OECD countries have been able to dominate the world’s heavy industry and much of its manufacturing.

In fact, if we look at the local production of fuels generally used to produce electricity (that is, all fuels except oil), we can see a pattern emerge.

Figure 9. Energy production of fuels often used for electricity production for OECD countries, based on data from BP’s 2022 Statistical Review of World Energy.

With respect to extraction of fuels often associated with electricity, production has been closed to flat, even with “renewables” (wind, solar, geothermal, and wood chips) included. Coal production is down. The decline in coal production is likely a big part of the lack of growth in OECD’s electricity supply. Electricity from locally produced coal has historically been very inexpensive, bringing the average price of electricity down.

A very different pattern emerges when the production of fuels used to generate electricity for non-OECD countries is viewed. Note that the same scale has been used on both Figures 9 and 10. Thus, in 2001, the production of these fuels was about equal for OECD and non-OECD countries. Production of these fuels has about doubled since 2001 for non-OECD countries, while OECD production has remained close to flat.

Figure 10. Energy production of fuels often used for electricity production for non-OECD countries, based on data from BP’s 2022 Statistical Review of World Energy.

One item of interest on Figure 10 is coal production for non-OECD countries, shown in blue at the bottom. It has been barely increasing since 2011. This is part of what is now tightening world coal supplies. I am doubtful that spiking coal prices will add very much to long-term coal production because truly local supplies are becoming depleted, even in non-OECD countries. The spiking prices are much more likely to lead to recession, debt defaults, lower commodity prices, and lower coal supply.

[11] I am afraid that the world economy has hit complexity limits as well as energy production limits.

The world economy seems likely to collapse over a period of years. In the near term, the result may look like a bad recession, or it may look like war, or possibly both. So far, the economies using fuels that are not very complex for electricity (locally produced coal and natural gas, plus hydroelectric generation) seem to be doing better than others. But the overall world economy is stressed by inadequate cheap-to-produce local energy supplies.

In physics terms, the world economy, as well as all of the individual economies within it, are dissipative structures. As such, growth followed by collapse is a usual pattern. At the same time, new versions of dissipative structures can be expected to form, some of which may be better adapted to changing conditions. Thus, approaches for economic growth that seem impossible today may be possible over a longer timeframe.

For example, if climate change opens up access to more coal supplies in very cold areas, the Maximum Power Principle would suggest that some economy will eventually access such deposits. Thus, while we seem to be reaching an end now, over the long-term, self-organizing systems can be expected to find ways to utilize (“dissipate”) any energy supply that can be inexpensively accessed, considering both complexity and direct fuel use.

About Gail Tverberg

My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
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3,434 Responses to Ramping up wind turbines, solar panels and electric vehicles can’t solve our energy problem

  1. Fast Eddy says:

    norm – you could have lived till 125… if not for the Rat Juice

    The long-term consequences of Covid-19 vaccination are now being realised…

    A year ago, doubly vaccinated Australians were 10.72x more likely to catch Omicron than the unvaxxed. Now they are 20x more likely and the triply or more vaxxed are 35x more likely, as the latest NSW Health stats show (see below).

    Meanwhile, the latest Cleveland Clinic Data and the latest US data analysed by Josh Stirling, founder of Insurance Collaboration to Save Livess and former #1 ranked Insurance Analyst, shows a really really disturbing trend.

    The damage to health caused by each vaccine dose does not lessen over time. It continues indefinitely.


    • Fred says:

      Hey you pasty, trench-footed Kiwis are just jealous of us sunbronzed, beach god Aussies. How about Hokitika as a beach resort? Ho ho!

      Deagel forecast we’ll be down to 5M from 25M by 2025, so if that comes true it’s going to be a nice, peaceful place to be. Almost as empty and sleepy as NZ.

  2. ivanislav says:

    In Japan’s most recent covid wave, “recoveries” stopped tracking “new cases”. Apparently it’s the Japanese new year or something, so hopefully it’s just a question of delayed data. What’s worrying though is that their death count is rising exponentially with time.

    On the other hand, in the USA, cases have totally mellowed out.

  3. Ed says:

    Some illegal persons who were shipped to NYC do not like NYC and ask to go to Canada. NYC mayor buys them tickets to Plattsburgh, NY, the northern most city in NY state. There they are given local van service to the border, not an official border station just a dead end road at the border. They walk across the border and are immediately arrested by the Mounties.

    • ivanislav says:

      This is great. Let’s deport all 175 million democrats to Canada.

    • I am sure that it is difficult being a person who cannot earn an adequate living in their own country, who tries to come to the US, and isn’t really welcome here either. Going to Canada doesn’t really work either. World population too high.

      • Dennis L. says:

        Unfortunately, it is demographics and I am in the wrong demographic. Bummer.

        Dennis L.

      • David says:

        But at least from ~1945-80 the UK and US ensured that even ‘the bottom 10%’ could live a decent life, by having progressive taxes and a conscious policy (UK … don’t know about USA) of full employment.

  4. MG says:

    “Mark 7:14-15
    New International Version
    14 Again Jesus called the crowd to him and said, “Listen to me, everyone, and understand this. 15 Nothing outside a person can defile them by going into them. Rather, it is what comes out of a person that defiles them.”

    The pollution is the complexity that comes out the man. Producing the pollution is producing the complexity.

    The humans badly need the creation of the clean spaces for living, eliminating the chemical, bacterial etc. pollution. That is why, in the end, all human growth is dirt and decay, as all space and the means for cleaning are consumed.

    • Complexity does seem to “use up” the spaces where the rest of the ecosystem would normally grow. Even the oceans are affected with our overfishing, dumping of unwanted trash and now release of radioactive water.

  5. Zerohedge is reporting:


    Nord Stream Sabotage Was CIA, US Navy Covert Op: Seymour Hersh Bombshell Prompts White House Response

    Famed journalist and Pulitzer prize winner Seymour Hersh, who for decades was a star reporter writing for The New York Times and New Yorker, on Wednesday published a new bombshell as his first Substack post, prompting a quick White House response

    After conducting his own investigation into who sabotaged the Nord Stream pipelines via a series of underwater blasts on Sept. 26, Hersh has concluded the United States blew up the Russia-to-Germany natural gas pipeline as part of a covert operation under the guise of the BALTOPS 22 NATO exercise. . .

    As for Washington motives in such a risky covert sabotage mission, Hersh writes, “As long as Europe remained dependent on the pipelines for cheap natural gas, Washington was afraid that countries like Germany would be reluctant to supply Ukraine with the money and weapons it needed to defeat Russia.”

    We heard earlier that the US likely bombed the pipeline. This article says that Biden was directly involved. The Norwegian navy seems to have helped the effort along by figuring out where to bomb. Doesn’t make for good foreign relations!

    • banned says:


      A Russian asset.

      A Putin pastry.

      A Kremlin cupcake.

      A Tolstoy tart.

      Russian/Slavic prejudice is openly cultivated.

      War. Same as it ever was.

      The next generation forgets the cultivated prejudice required for war of the prior.

      Whats a little nerve gas after all.

    • Kowalainen says:

      “Doesn’t make for good foreign relations!”

      It’s just eliminating plain old competition. If I recall correctly, Norway is a producer and exporter of FF’s, no?

      It’s just realpolitik. No hard feelings, eh?

      • David says:

        Norway … its new cars are now mostly electric:
        ‘We are so virtuous’.

        Norway … negotiations with oil customers:
        ‘Yes, we’ll gladly sell you our oil; are you interested in a spot market deal or a long term contract?’

        Ludicrous double standard.

        • Kowalainen says:

          Well, the US gave the “order”. Why not seize the opportunity for: 🤑💰💵💸💴💶 (MOAR)!!!!11!!1


          Anyway, you wouldn’t want the Norwegians in bad mood, they might oar over to Old Blighty with their broadswords and make MotW’s wishes come true. A blast from the past for sure.

          🛶 ⚔️ 😈

          On second thought, they might bring over proper house building materials, oats and “lusekofta” for the blighted Brit’s.

          🏠 🌾 🧥


    • banned says:

      The link to the substack post is in the ZH article. Its very detailed. Someone inside spilled the beans completely the whole shebang. All the hawks were in on it in some fashion from both clown teams. Germany and Norway in on it. Leaked now as part of the sudden Biden is out club? Has HuffPo issued Biden is out marching orders yet? Heh Heh Sorry Russia we bombed your shit but we got rid of Biden (because he kept documents in a shoebox) so we are like cool and stuff? Or do they want WW3? Do they even know WTF they are doing or just running around like a chicken with its head cut off? This is without a doubt the most stupid ignorant dangerously incompetent clown team of my lifetime. Where do they get these people? Do they clone them for the lowest possible and most despicable characteristics? What moronic shit will they try next?

      Its like being on a bus and the driver is blindfolded and shooting fent mixed with rat juice.


      • This is a section that talks about the German involvement in the blown up pipelines:

        Nevertheless, in early 2022, the CIA working group reported back to Sullivan’s interagency group: “We have a way to blow up the pipelines.”

        What came next was stunning. On February 7, less than three weeks before the seemingly inevitable Russian invasion of Ukraine, Biden met in his White House office with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, who, after some wobbling, was now firmly on the American team. At the press briefing that followed, Biden defiantly said, “If Russia invades . . . there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it.”

        Twenty days earlier, Undersecretary Nuland had delivered essentially the same message at a State Department briefing, with little press coverage. “I want to be very clear to you today,” she said in response to a question. “If Russia invades Ukraine, one way or another Nord Stream 2 will not move forward.”

    • Strange! Is it possible for military powers to start an earthquake? We discussed this before.

      • Withnail says:

        Earthquakes are a natural phenonemon.

        Believing the CIA causes them is just another version of believing witches cause them.

        • banned says:

          There are witches and there are witches.

        • Student says:

          There are two Italian websites talking about this argument: Luogocomune and Donchisciotte.
          At the same time I would like to add that some experts have said that lights in the sky may be due to some big amount of Radon gas released from the underground because of the slashes in the ground created by the earthquake.
          The issue needs to be investigated further. We will surely know something more in the future.
          In the meantime here one can find the 2 articles.



          • Student says:

            In the first link there is a short video of Dr. Agnew Brooks explaining that during a tomography made with ELF waves in Oregon in 1987 an earthquake was generated right after.
            In that are a tectonic fault is present and he says that it was just enough to free the necessary energy to trigger the movements of the earth.

          • Ed says:

            A flash before an earthquake is a long observed effect. It is due to the piezoelectric effect. Some materials when squeezed produce a voltage. Earthquake big squeeze, big voltage, big flash.

            • Interesting!

            • Kowalainen says:

              A corona discharge from piezo/triboelectric effect?

              “A corona discharge is an electrical discharge caused by the ionization of a fluid such as air surrounding a conductor carrying a high voltage. It represents a local region where the air (or other fluid) has undergone electrical breakdown and become conductive, allowing charge to continuously leak off the conductor into the air.”

              “The triboelectric effect (also known as triboelectric charging) is a type of contact electrification on which certain materials become electrically charged after they are separated from a different material with which they were in contact. Rubbing the two materials with each other increases the contact between their surfaces, and hence the triboelectric effect.”

              Cuz science – ‘real’ science.

            • Cromagnon says:

              This phenomena may well have been source of power for the great pyramid of Giza mechanism. Electrodes, hydraulic rams and granite.
              The Anunna knew.

            • Kowalainen says:

              I reckon it’s a bad idea to twiddle with the plasma sheath enveloping and protecting earth from gnarly plasma ejections from the sun.

              Let me guess how it went down:
              YOLO! 🎉
              Hypers gonna hyper!
              MOARons gonna moaron!

              (A rapacious primate is rapacious irregardless of its incarnation)


          • drb753 says:

            Radon isotopes (two of them) have a half life of days. The activity is correspondingly low. They can not create a flash no matter the amount. If they do, it will last for days or at least until the radon slowly dissipates.

            • Student says:

              two excertps from the two articles above mentioned, first and second article, respectively:

              1) ‘We have known for some time that ELF waves can penetrate deep into the ground, causing earthquakes of considerable size (see video). And we also know that HAARP is capable of emitting these waves, and bouncing them off the ionosphere, sending them to hit any predestined target (I had briefly discussed this in this video, from minute 6.25).
              To this we add the news, given today by the ‘Corriere’ that “several videos posted on social media show the lights in the sky precisely at the time of the earthquake that struck the country.”
              Can we really rule out that someone’s murderous hand is behind this earthquake? Maybe that it even gave a “little help,” in an area already at high earthquake risk in itself?”

              2) ”Coincidentally, the recent disasters occurred in countries in conflict with the European Union and NATO, and, again coincidentally, the European embassies in Turkey had been closed a week before the earthquake. Some are asking questions (so did Chavez long ago). Is it possible that someone tickled this area and introduced an amount of energy?
              Below is part of an interview with Dr. Rosalie Bertell done a few years ago by the Snowshoefilms website; Bertell tells us another uncomfortable story; that of the genesis of artificial earthquakes and the strong suspicion that the 2004 Indonesian earthquake was an artificial event. Bertell is an internationally renowned scientist. She holds degrees in Biometry with minor specializations in Biology and Biochemistry. From 1969 to 1978 Bertell was a senior scientist in cancer research at the Roswell Park Cancer Institute. She was also a consultant to the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and Health Canada.[1] In 1983 she received the Hans-Adalbert Schweigart Medal from the World Union for Protection of Life. Bertell was president of the International Institute of Concern for Public Health from 1987 to 2004. He founded the “International Chernobyl Medical Commission” in 1996 and also the International Bhopal Medical Commission in 1994. Bertell also addressed HAARP in her book PLANET EARTH’S LAST WEAPON OF WAR.
              Here is what Rosalie said about man-made earthquakes associated with HAARP”…

            • drb753 says:

              ELF waves carry little energy and tiny momentum (Energy/c). How can they unbalance millions of tons of rock? Snow accumulating in winter or melting in spring is a perturbation orders of magnitude larger.

            • banned says:

              “ELF waves carry little energy and tiny momentum (Energy/c). How can they unbalance millions of tons of rock? Snow accumulating in winter or melting in spring is a perturbation orders of magnitude larger.”

              It does seem counterintuitive. Here is one mans explanation who is familar with directed energy . If correct one might guess that it might be deployed from space assets. Its like a MC Esscher drawing maybe. Theres the pond , the surface of the pond and air above the pond. The occupants are unaware of the other connected planes.


            • Student says:

              ”HAARP Detection and Imaging of Underground Structures Using ELF/VLF Radio Waves ELF/VLF radio waves penetrate deeply beneath the surface of the earth and interact with the geologic structure of the earth.”



              I’m not an expert, I’m just reading what it seems to be reliable sources. In my view, it is an hypothesis that cannot be excluded or included under a discussion in this thread. I think it is something we need to study with good time as we have never discussed these kind of subjects in this blog. As we had never discussed before bioweapons. All the best.

            • Withnail says:

              ELF waves carry little energy and tiny momentum (Energy/c). How can they unbalance millions of tons of rock?

              As I said it’s essentially belief in witchcraft.

            • drb753 says:

              Directed energy needs to be directed. It is directed with a parabolic mirror ad the spread of the outgoing beam is necessarily more or of order of lambda/d, lambda wavelength, d diameter of mirror (diffraction). How are you going to direct 1 km long waves? And how are you going to deliver the Gigajoules needed to trigger an earthquake? I will stick with atomic device as best method to deliver lots of energy to points underground.

        • glad youve read and signed the sanity claus withnail

    • Foolish Fitz says:

      The ‘light’ moved much faster just after take off😉


  6. A Charles Hugh Smith view:


    The part I thought was good was this part:

    Why All Credit-Asset Bubbles Are Self-Liquidating

    When an investor bought the modest home for $200,000, the costs of ownership were low due to the costs being linked to the value: The property tax, insurance and mortgage were all based on the valuation. (The costs of maintenance were unrelated to valuation, of course, being based on the age and quality of construction.) Let’s say the modest house rents for $1,500 per month.

    The investor who buys the modest home for $1 million has much higher costs, even if they bought the property with cash and didn’t need to borrow money (i.e., obtain a mortgage). The property taxes and insurance are much higher, and the comparable market rent of similar houses reflects the expected yield on investing $1 million: If investors expect a 3% yield after all expenses, then the rents have to rise so the investor/owner nets $30,000 annually.

    Due to the valuation increasing in a bubble, the rent is now $4,500 per month, even though the house hasn’t materially gained any utility at all. The rent has to be high to justify the purchase price of $1 million.

    This is why all credit-asset bubbles are self-liquidating: Once the cost of credit drops to near-zero, there’s no discipline left: Any loan for any investment can be justified by the “guaranteed” increase in value/collateral. Since everything will rise in value, then it makes sense to leverage up as much debt as possible to gain control of as many assets as possible, as the means to maximize gain.

    This leads to marginal borrowers overextending, borrowing more than is prudent.

    Of course, there are a lot of things besides debt bubble causing prosperity to end, but CHS didn’t try to tackle this issue.

  7. Mish Shedlock gives his view of Biden’s State of the Union address last night:


    Biden Gives a Well-Delivered STOU Speech Begging for More Inflation and Tax Hikes
    President Biden delivered his State of the Union speech far better than I expected. The problem was content, not delivery.

    If you are looking for more inflation, then look no further than President Biden’s wish list of ideas in his state of the union address.

    Regarding point 11 and record oil profits: Record profits happened because the President is doing everything in his power to drive them out of business. Refining capacity is down. Why should they invest with a president so hostile? Oil prices are high because of Biden’s policies.

    Everything else is self explanatory: Free education, more tax credits, living wages, teacher raises, mandatory sick days, affordable child care, climate change nonsense, charging stations built by unions, and Medicaid expansion.

  8. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/watch-live-house-oversight-hearing-twitter-suppression-hunter-biden-laptop-story

    Watch Live: House Oversight Hearing On Twitter Suppression Of Hunter Biden Laptop Story

    The House Oversight Committee on Wednesday is hearing testimony from three former, top Twitter employees over the company’s handling of the Hunter Biden laptop story.

    House Oversight Chairman James Comer (R-K), who has launched a broad investigation into the Biden family dealings, is probing the social media giant following revelations from new Twitter owner Elon Musk, who released internal communications from Twitter staff about their censorship efforts.

    Rep. James Comer:

    Twitter, under the leadership of our witnesses today, was a private company the government used to accomplish what it constitutionally cannot: limit the free exercise of speech.

    A person would think that the level of cover-up is getting out of hand in the US.

    • drb753 says:

      With such an amorphous, zombified audience, they should be able to go further. But they have been doing big big coverups for at least 100 years.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        What is amusing is that people believe they live in a democracy …

        Yet Hunter Biden is left alone… and nobody investigates the JFK thing….

        It can be staring them right in the face but they can’t see it – they don’t want to see it

        They do not want the truth

        Same thing with the anti vaxxers… how do you get every govt on the planet to inject and no push back for what is clearly a dangerous and useless vax — even the DOD poisons its soldiers… unless they believe this is necessary.

        Nobody wants to go there. Nobody

        • Ed says:

          The system is hermetically sealed. The little people have no way to oppose it.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            It’s better that they pretend they live in a democracy — vote etc… eventually you convince yourself it’s real

  9. Student says:


    Video of people protesting against former Minister of Health Roberto Speranza.
    Relatives of people who died for the Covid vaccine and parents of children who experienced serious adverse events (currently under therapy to recover) protested yesterday in the city of Cremona (Italy) shouting: ‘Speranza, you are a killer’


  10. Student says:


    ‘Dr. Frasca (Italian Higher Institute of Health) “COVID vaccine causes myocarditis and damage the immune system. I would commit suicide if I lost my son for giving it to him. We must tell the truth.’


  11. MG says:

    The humans crave for the heaven where the individual humanity is respected. Not some technocrat higher power progress fame and superpower.

    The system crashes on the weakness of the humans, not on the power of the technology.

    • The system crashes on too little energy to support the economy. Or perhaps from some outside disturbance to the system.

      • MG says:

        We do not have a system that is self-repairable. It is always repaired by the humans that fight the forces of the nature. We fight the forces of the nature with using the external energy. So, if, theoretically, we have infinite energy at our disposal, then the collapse of the system can be caused by the humans.

        There can still be forests, but no humans due to the genetic mutations, epidemics etc.

      • MG says:

        There is less and less space for dissipating the pollution. The pollution that helps us produce energy, too.

        Without the nuclear power, the world would be much more polluted.

  12. Student says:


    ”Bulk Carrier Captain Medevaced Off Louisiana. […] ‘captain was experiencing dizziness and chest pain. Watchstanders diverted a Coast Guard Air Station New Orleans MH-60 Jayhawk aircrew to assist.’

    Luckily that can be done on ships, a little bit more complicated to ‘medevac’ captains on airplanes…


  13. MG says:

    The new level of stupidity: the certifications of the workforce in the era of the ageing populations and the scarce workforce

    • Certification of workforce is a type of complexity. As such, it uses some of the scarce energy that is available.

      You are right. It will drive workers from the workforce, especially if certification represents covid vaccination. In the US, retirements are already high, leaving few workers. Many places in Europe have a demographic issue adding to the situation.

      • MG says:

        The certification becomes absurd in such a way, that you are asked to work for less and have a certificate for the given less paid job/the job that requires more of your energy or time!

  14. davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

    the NFL covered up the jab injury for 8 months.


    co-owner of the Buffalo Bills, that’s Damar Hamlin’s team.

    typical early morning heart attack due to jab damage.

    she will never fully recover.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      No mention of the Rat Juice…. f789 them all … good for her… she deserves it

      • Rodster says:

        It’s “NEVER” the Jab because they are 100% safe and effective. Just ask Tony Fauci or Bourla from Pfizer.

  15. Lastcall says:

    “Ukraine is on the verge of collapse. We’re going to watch that happen over the next several weeks.”

    – Col. Douglas Macgregor in an interview with Judge Andrew Napolitano on Wednesday


    There are a few narratives breaking down…
    Ardern is gone
    Biden is setting up new fencing in Washed-out-on
    Macron is silent
    Tru-blow is getting harassed

    Times’, they are a changing.

    • Interesting video with Col. MacGregor saying Ukraine is on the verge of collapse.

      If the US is no longer fighting indirectly on the Ukraine front, perhaps that frees up resources for war in Taiwan, in Iran, or directly with Russia.

      Does the US debt limit have any impact on this? I would suppose that if war is involved, all parties would agree to raise the limit.

  16. Tim Groves says:

    “Call me crazy! But I don’t want my brain surgery conducted at Warp Speed! You Know. ‘Doc, take your time. Go slow. Be careful when you get in there, in my brain.’ … Warp Speed? Should have rang a bell. That’s how we knew.”

    This is especially for Ed, who seems to appreciate the same videos I do. Thirty minutes of morning coffee with Dr. Jane Ruby, who discusses the question “How did the Unjabbed Know?” In it, she talks about the long list of clues and tells that tipped off some of us while leaving some of the best and sharpest minds—she mentions Scott Adams in this context—clueless.

    Jane can be a bit loud and emotional in the best New York tradition, and as cartoonish as a Loony Tunes character at times, but she is also one smart cookie who knows her stuff.


    I enjoyed this one so much yesterday that I’m going to listen to it again today.

    • Ed says:

      Thanks Tim, she is good.

    • Lidia17 says:

      I don’t want to take away Tim’s jollies but… I could only last about 10 minutes into it. Her description of the PCR test was moronic. PCR doesn’t work by “cycling down to basic elements”. “You can’t tell what this material is: whether it’s a protein, or a cholesterol…”?

      This is a doctor?

      PCR duplicates and amplifies existing genetic sequences. “Proteins and cholesterols” don’t have genetic sequences.

      There’s something fake about her that I never liked: the collagen lips and the Bob Guccione vaseline filter, maybe? She looks 55-60 in the video, pretends to be 35. Low-cut white coat working the “hot for teacher” vibe… (Women coming in to judge women.) She came on the scene with Stew Peters (another person out of nowhere.. oops, I tell a lie, he used to be a rapper). I keep an eye on their stories every so often, but there is something off about them. Also Karen Kingston and Stew with the in-your-face-Christian props in every frame… I just find that stuff overly calculating and thus odd.

      Jane’s on IMDB, though.
      “…she holds two doctoral degrees in Education and Psychcology [sic], two Masters Degrees in Nursing and International Health Economics and is highly published in global health economics as well as contemporary media and social issues books and articles. Her website contains blog posts and interviews of and by her. – IMDb Mini Biography By: Jane Ruby”

      Jane’s still right about some things, including how we have to be “in touch with our right signals”!!

      • I am afraid I had some of the same problems you did, Lidia. It might have gotten better if I had stuck with it longer.

      • Kowalainen says:

        “How did the Unjabbed Know?”

        Injecting insufficiently tested compounds with no declaration of content in the packing slip?

        How about using the divine superpower #1 called ‘thinking’, no?

        Regarding “being in touch with our right signals”, yes that is the divine superpower #2 called reasoning.

        Not that particularly difficult to explain, no.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Early on just for fun … (I like fun) … I went to a pharmacy and asked if I could take a look at the insert before injecting … the pharma lady said NO! Woooah… what’s with the attitude…

          I said why not – it’s my injection — why can’t I look. Falsetto ‘you cannot have it!’

          Talk about defensive… and mental illness.

          • Kowalainen says:

            “Talk about defensive… and mental illness.”

            “In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule.“
            — F.N.

            Not so sure about that Nitsky.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Agree – there’s a whiff of Zelensky about all of them

        Notice how the SSers are becoming celebrities in the anti vax community

        • Xabier says:

          And they are generally proposing ‘solutions’ on SS which are no such thing. Of course, some are honest and deluded, I have no doubt.

          Same goes for GB News in the UK, who have revealed their true colours.

          Are they just spreading feed in the ‘hog pen’ before the shooting?

          I prefer people like Igor Chudov, who beavers away quietly, without any theatrics, and who is clearly slowly losing all hope.

      • Xabier says:

        In other words, she holds degrees of, at best, dubious value in addressing this topic.

        Entertainment at best; but life (and more to the point our time) is too short to waste on her, and the same goes for the ghastly Stew Peters.

        Disinformation agent and grifters, in all probability.

        • Lidia17 says:

          Xabier, “her website contains blog posts and interviews of and by her.” What more does one need?

  17. Mirror on the wall says:

    The British probably fancy that I want to kill them all. Sad thing is whether they are right. Let’s see who lasts the longest.

    Faling in and out of love….

  18. Rodster says:

    “The Surplus Energy Economy, part 2 – The Energy Dynamic”


    • Tim Morgan sees a somewhat rocky road ahead.

      He says, near the end,

      A rocky road ahead

      The situation, in summary, is that (a) fossil fuel supplies can be expected to decrease more rapidly than alternatives can be expanded, and (b) that the material connection between renewables and fossil fuels makes it implausible that the relentless rise in ECoEs can be stemmed, still less reversed, by renewables expansion. As we have seen, decreasing energy availability reduces economic output, whilst rising ECoEs leverage the adverse consequences for prosperity.

      The Surplus Energy Economics project concentrates on the analytical rather than the prescriptive, and the foregoing should not be taken as disputing the imperative of transition to renewables.

      On the contrary, renewables offer our best chance of mitigating economic decline. If we decided to stick with fossil fuel energy and back-pedal on renewables, the economy would contract under the combined pressures of decreasing energy supply and relentlessly rising ECoEs.

      His energy forecast is very benign, the way I see things:

      the aggregate supply of primary energy falls by 8%, and energy availability per capita is 20% lower in 2040 than it was in 2021.

      Of course, the whole system stays together during this period.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Is this a joke?

        Or maybe an attempt to calm the mob with soothing words…

      • Xabier says:

        Well Gail, while having the greatest respect for Tim Morgan, intellectually, his benign forecasts are now like the ‘scientific’ research papers which, after listing some nasty vaxx effects, invariably end with ‘but the Covid vaccines are still the best weapon we have have saved millions of lives and we recommend getting them’.

        Of course, I’m not implying in any way that he is as dishonest as those grant-dependent scientists. He is probably struggling wit the awful truth as much as any of us.

        The pseudo-renewables are to the future economy what the fake vaxxes are to general health: all delusions and lies.

        Thank you for the excellent article, by the way. Carpe Diem!

        • Withnail says:

          Energy can only move from a low entropy to a higher entropy state.

          It is therefore impossible to harvest high entropy solar energy and turn it into low entropy dispatchable high intensity energy.

          It only appears to be possible because we are using up low entropy high intensity fossil fuel energy to construct the energy harvesting equipment.

          • Tim Groves says:

            Trees appear to be able to to turn high entropy solar energy into low entropy wood, which people like Xabier and I then turn into high entropy heat that can warm a room, heat bath water, boil a kettle, cook a stew, power a pottery kiln, and—in the hands of Casey Jones—drive a locomotive.

            Yes, we’re cooking with fire here!

            (This takes me back to when I had hair that long.)

            • Withnail says:

              Trees appear to be able to to turn high entropy solar energy into low entropy wood

              They turn only a tiny fraction of the energy into wood. Overall the trees increase entropy by helping to turn the high entropy radiation from the sun into even more entropic energy like slight changes in the temperature. The trees also release oxygen which reacts with other elements like iron to form oxides. This increases entropy.

          • Yorchichan says:

            The photons from the sun are low entropy when they arrive at the Earth. It is this low entropy source that allows life to exist. Ultimately, all the energy is radiated back into space as higher entropy photons. The activity of life converts a few high energy photons into many low energy photons so the energy becomes more dispersed and entropy increases.

      • Fred says:

        Tim’s an incurable optimist. He has to be to keep his marketable value up. No $$ in being a doomer.

    • Lastcall says:

      I think the ‘Trust Horizon’ as per Automatic Earth, will shrink much more quickly than anybody expects. Will a paper promise get you a tanker of the good oil? I think not.

      As for this line; ‘On the contrary, renewables offer our best chance of mitigating economic decline.’

      If thats our best chance, then game over. Financial analysts who have no real world analytical skills is partly how we got here.
      They aren’t going to get us out on a windmill wing and a solar cell.

      Gave up reading his dopium a while ago.

      • Tim Morgan comes from the banking industry. He is an economist who got his ideas of energy from Prof. Charles Hall. Prof. Hall. He doesn’t understand that high EROEI doesn’t save us. Morgan is one of the many people preaching that renewables can substantially help on the down slope.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        I do wonder of TM actually believes this .. or if he puts it out there to prevent despair…

        Surely he cannot believe renewable energy is a way forward

        • CTG says:

          Surely he cannot believe renewable energy is a way forward…..

          Hahahahihoho.. FE, you forgot how many, especially highly educated people believe in “safe and effective “

  19. Herbie Ficklestein. says:

    Bill Gates on why he’ll carry on using private jets and campaigning on climate change
    PUBLISHED TUE, FEB 7 2023 6:57 AM EST
    Anmar Frangoul CNBC

    “I spend billions of dollars on … climate innovation,” Gates tells the BBC. “So, you know, should I stay at home and not come to Kenya and learn about farming and malaria?”
    Gates also speaks about the role developed nations needed to play when it came to reducing emissions.

    “What the rich countries owe to the entire world is that they need to get their emissions down to zero as fast as they can,” he says.

    Bill Gates does not agree that using a private jet and campaigning on the issue of climate change represents a contradiction open to allegations of hypocrisy.

    During a wide-ranging interview with the BBC aired at the end of last week, Gates was asked for his view on the charge that a climate change campaigner using a private jet to travel around the world was a hypocrite

    ….What the rich countries owe to the entire world is that they need to get their emissions down to zero as fast as they can,” he said. “But that’s not enough because they, you know, they have so … much in the way of resources.”

    “They also need to invent new approaches so that the cost of being green, the cost of not having emissions in all areas, gets down to be zero.”

    “So a new way of making cement or steel, you know, electric passenger cars, that’s all in the rich countries.”

    “And they’ve got to solve it so they can turn to the middle-income countries and say, ‘OK, you know — India being a good example — here’s how you make steel, here’s how you make cement’.”

    “For the low-income countries, as you get rich, you’re much more resilient against climate disasters and so improving … those economies through health, education, agriculture is … what we owe to the low income countries.”

    Sure, BillieBoy, you go fella and solve the unsolvable…but one thing I can add..you sure would be great on Let’s Make a Deal!

    Bill Gates is a ruthless schemer who demeaned his employees and conspired to rip off his business partner, according to a memoir written by the co-founder of Microsoft, Paul Allen.

    Mr Allen’s forthcoming book reveals a deep-seated bitterness at the heart of the famous relationship that created the most successful software company the world has ever seen. In Idea Man: A Memoir, Allen also claims that Gates never gave him enough credit for his contribution to Microsoft’s earliest development, nor a big enough share of the company. In effect, Mr Allen is accusing his friend of bullying him out of shares that would have been worth billions of dollars.

    • Kowalainen says:

      Billy boy is coping.

      “Gates also speaks about the role developed nations needed to play when it came to reducing emissions.”

      How about banning private jets and yachts? And then follow it up with banning private automobiles and subsidizing churning and turning.

      Make the sanctimony squirm and twitch, a wee bit of suck never hurts people with long sticks. Nobody real would accept being a plump hypocrite.

  20. A crucial change which will be brought after the effective end of the Rules Based International Order will be a massive readjustment of standards of living in USA and other English speaking countries.

    The USA-based trade system is complementary with the RBIO, and with the end of it, and only USA, Canada and Australia having resources to speak about all these resources-poor European countries, Japan, Korea and Taiwan essentially freeloading over it, USA will look like Britain of 1950s.

    A lot of Americans are in denial, but that is coming.

    Ironically it might be a blessing in disguise since lowering the standard of living in USA and its allies will preserve the resources.

    • Herbie Ficklestein. says:

      Sorry to write…it ain’t gonna be so..

      Do you think the decline can be managed gradually, rewinding industrial civilization gently in reverse through earlier adaptive stages, or must it crash horrifically?

      “A: It will crash. We saw the same thing happen with World War I, World War II. It happens, its supported by history. When we placed an oil embargo on the Japanese, they didnt say OK, we understand your point. Well go along with that. They didnt go back to rickshaws or whatever they had before. People cant do that. It doesnt run in reverse. It only goes one way up. And the reason for that is that the act of getting stuff makes us feel good. Its not having it, its getting it. Thats why it cant run in reverse, because its getting it that feels good, not having it. Thats why we never feel we have enough. We never get enough, because it is the act of getting it that feels good. Thats biology”


      Interview with Jay Hanson of Dieoff.com…
      One of the best exchanges I have encountered..June 2003
      Jay died few years ago in a diving accident…Lucky him..
      Yes, there will be a dieoff…as Gail has implied here many times by writing it as a whole lot less population…
      Hanson expressed…
      “But a great deal of death will occur because food and water supply lines will collapse. Food cannot be grown in anything like the quantities we need without oil and natural gas. Moreover, neither food nor water can be delivered without oil and gas. Cities like Las Vegas must become uninhabitable deserts again. The population of Southern California must fall to a few hundred thousand again. In Canada, water pipes will freeze in the winter without gas. Its a very long list, I cant guess how many will die from each.”
      In addition to human conflict (wars) and diseases, and lack of essentials, clothing, shelter ect
      But like Gail has expressed we can have Hope

  21. Mirror on the wall says:

    It is getting hard to be someone, but it all works out.

    And nothing is real.

  22. Mirror on the wall says:

    Everyone understand that Mirror is entirely honest. B/c he is blessed by God.

    • The Viet Nam War period was not a good one for the US. The old system was starting to come apart, even back then.

      • Xabier says:

        It seems that Vietnam will be supplying ground up, ‘de-fatted’, crickets to the Wet for food adulteration.

        How’s that for revenge?

    • Art Lepic says:

      Uncle Bob, enlisted airborne age 18 in 1968, served near the Cambodian border for 10 months during the Têt offensive, then 30 years firefighting and abalone diving in SF, is back in town after a 1 week pussy chase in Saigon. Good talks ahead. Ask him anything, I will liaison.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Does Speed Disco still exist in Saigon? IT was the place to go last time I was there…

        Are there still loads of hot Vietnamese girls with fake bo-obs … mistresses of the Korean and Japanese businesses who paid for the upgrades….. hanging out in the clubs (but untouchable cuz they are the property of said execs)

        Is Apocalypse Now Bar still full of dodgy people?

  23. Mirror on the wall says:

    The lowest birth rate ever recorded….

    “Oh yeah, come on then, Finland. Let us see how this works out for you….”


    Finland Records Fewest Births in 150 Years, Ending Pandemic Bump

    Sharp drop in births follows a brief upturn during Covid years

    Population statistics show most deaths since World War II

    Finland saw the smallest number of live births in 150 years, cutting short a nascent positive trend that had emerged during the Covid-19 pandemic.
    The upturn in the birth rate during 2020 and 2021 interrupted a long-term slide, but turned out to have been “short-lived” and was followed now by a “sharp decline,” said Chief Actuary Joonas Toivola at Statistics Finland.

    In 2022, 44,933 children were born, 9.4% fewer than in 2021, Statistics Finland said, citing preliminary data released Thursday. The fertility rate fell to a record low 1.32.

    There’s no consensus on why births had been falling — or why they suddenly increased during the pandemic — and the statistics office offered no insight into last year’s decline. The government has sought to sweeten benefits for parents, introducing a more equal family leave, and is even looking over its budgets to see how its spending is affecting kids.

    In addition to the slump in births, Finland also recorded the largest number of deaths since World War II, the data showed. The number of deaths rose to 62,886, up by 5,227 from a year earlier, in the country with an aged populace.

    • Peak births in Finland were in 1992, at 66,000, according to 2022 UN population estimates. You report 45 thousand births in 2022, which is sort of a continuation of the pre-2020 downtrend in the number of births.

      Total deaths in Finland were 54 thousand for each of the years 2017, 2018, and 2019 according to the UN. They increased to 55 thousand in 2021 and 57 thousand in 2022. So, without immigration, population would be shrinking.

      Total population of Finland seems to be nearly flat, for the years 2016 to 2021. There must be immigration occurring to keep the population up.

      • Ed says:

        If the quality of life is so low people will not reproduce then you do not want to lower it further by immigration.

        If on the other hand we do not care about the quality of life and only view humans as live stock then immigration is the way to go.

        • Anyone analyzing numbers on projected workforce relative to the number of retirees will opt for immigration.

          In Japan, my impression is that they try to get a lot of the elderly jobs. For example, when we visited Japan a few years ago, an elderly woman served us tea in a government operated tea house. There were also older men directing traffic, when a nearby traffic light might be sufficient.

    • Kowalainen says:

      Finns… 🇫🇮
      The worst, and unreasonably happy because…


  24. Fast Eddy says:

    Parents of 18-Year-Old Trista Martin are Devastated After Her Sudden Death Post-Vaccination

    “I had to start CPR which is another thing a parent never wants to do to their child…Having to try and breathe the life back into your child.”



    Sooo Eeeeee https://t.me/leaklive/12008

    • The first link talks about using climate change as an excuse for authoritarian government. Of course, the real issue is “not enough fossil fuels,” but this can’t be talked about. Keeping everyone in the same place and using an authoritarian rule might actually make a little sense, if there is not enough fuel to go around. Maybe the fuel that is available can be used to grow and distribute food.

      The second two links are talks by Dr. Christine Jones. She talks about the fact that the plants, and the microbes that surround the roots of a plant, form a single unit that somehow allow the plant to keeper-using both nitrogen and phosphorous. (I don’t watch enough to know how this really works.) Anyhow, dumping commercial nitrogen and phosphorous fertilizer on plants disrupts this cycle.

      • drb753 says:

        I am familiar with her work. the point is, do not plow, do not till and the system will form. I have plowed, and will till in spring, but it is the last time I plan to do so. We have both winter rye and winter wheat that make it here, as well as vetch if you plan to use the crop for fodder.

        • Cromagnon says:

          Barbarian horseman the world over know this. Farmers destroy the world,…. But first they support the cities to be built.
          All crops should only be used to feed the horses standing idly by while their masters burn the cities to the ground.
          All hail simulacrum ecology.

          • drb753 says:

            I started that way but right now grains are so much more profitable than beef. This year I am planting about 45 hectares with oats and wheat.

            • Cromagnon says:

              I completely understand, it’s how deserts have been formed again and again.

              I am driving off the grain renters slowly. Only 1000 acres to go.
              They think I am a crazy man. I do nothing to dissuade them of this notion.

            • drb753 says:

              I think the way to keep it going is, you replant the day after you cut. Also silage is always done with mixed species. You do need physical (root depth and root fibrousness) and biochemical diversity. Also just stockpile it and have the animals graze it in winter. We are also going to try to plant mixed silage on a plot after mowing 5 days prior to planting, and five after. no plowing. the idea is that with two cuts that close the grass goes dormant. we will see if this works.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Imagine there are no spent fuel ponds,
              It’s easy if you try.

      • Adrian says:

        Christine Jones demonstrates that planting a biodiversity of species (8-16 is best), coupled with proper pasture and crop management, creates an environment in the soil that supports the biology and fungi that can 1) Access the thousands of years of supply of stored Phosphorous in the soils. 2) Draw nitrogen from the air and fix it in the soil. This management approach remove the need for added phosphorous and nitrogen.
        In the US the soils are also mostly deep enough for this approach to greatly reduce potassium fertiliser requirements. At the same time, as a part of the process in the soil, massive amounts of carbon is added to the soil – removed from atmosphere. Of course its not how Bill Gates likes to farm.

        • Thanks! Mono-cropping, with large amounts of nitrogen, potassium, and phosphorus fertilizer, is not the way to go.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Farmers caused the extinction

        • Withnail says:

          Christine Jones demonstrates that planting a biodiversity of species (8-16 is best), coupled with proper pasture and crop management, creates an environment in the soil that supports the biology and fungi that can 1) Access the thousands of years of supply of stored Phosphorous in the soils. 2) Draw nitrogen from the air and fix it in the soil. This management approach remove the need for added phosphorous and nitrogen.
          In the US the soils are also mostly deep enough for this approach to greatly reduce potassium fertiliser requirements

          Sounds like snake oil.

          There’s a reason the population went up to 8 billion only when we started using chemical fertilisers, like them or not.

          • Cromagnon says:

            I concur. I advocate for a North American population of 10 million carnivorous homo sapien namadicus……symbiotic relationship with Equus ferus and Canis lupus.

            Fire technology at level of banging two rocks together and sharp pointy sticks.

            We can manage that I suspect.

            Our gut flora will thank us.

  25. Herbie Ficklestein. says:

    Too Funny!!😂
    Steve Martin sketch from his 1980 “Comedy Is Not Pretty” TV special.
    Steve Martin-Death Of Socrates

    See even Socrates was a MOREON….
    Betcha he would gladly take the rat juice like Emperor Claudius in Masterpiece Theater episode..


    Let all the poison in the mud….
    One can only take so much….

  26. Fast Eddy says:

    Thailand will become the first country to make the contract null and void, meaning that Pfizer will become responsible for all vaccine injuries.

    The Royal Family have now been alerted to the fact that the princess has most likely been a victim of the jab.


    A search brings up nothing:


    • Minority of One says:

      I have my doubts if anything will come of this if the comatose Princess’s father is as corrupt as alleged. More likely that the people Prof. Sucharit Bhakdi spoke to in Thailand have an accident.

    • The only way to stop this vaccine mania (other than too little energy) is to be able to sue the makers. If Thailand can open the door to lawsuits, it would be helpful.

  27. Fast Eddy says:

    Strange https://t.me/PoliticalMoonshine/1697

    Vaccines Cause Autism
    Scientists Have ZERO EVIDENCE To Prove They Do Not

    James Neuenschwander, MD
    You’re going to p*ss off your immune system if you keep injecting a baby with multiple vaccines at birth, 2 months, 4 months, at 6 months, 12 months.
    This leads to repetitive immune activation


    • Dr. James Neuenschwander, MD doesn’t point to just one thing that may be contributing to autism. He seems to think that a combination of things, including antibiotics, vaccines, and glyphosate (Roundup) may be involved. I didn’t listen to the whole interview, however.

  28. Fast Eddy says:

    the shelves were close to bare in the super markets… before this

    ZeroHedge (https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/fire-new-zealands-largest-egg-farm-kills-75000-hens-amid-national-shortage)
    Fire At New Zealand’s Largest Egg Farm Kills 75,000 Hens Amid National Shortage
    “Egg supplies are tight, so this will not assist in any way…”

    • Lastcall says:

      Wonder why chickens gittin picked on?

      ‘This study evaluated the potential efficacy of Egg Yolk Antibodies (IgY) as a neutralizing agent against the SARS-CoV-2. We investigated the neutralizing effect of anti-spike-S1 IgYs on the SARS-CoV-2 pseudo-virus, as well as its inhibitory effect on the binding of the coronavirus spike protein mutants to human ACE2.

      Our results show that the anti-Spike-S1 IgYs showed significant neutralizing potency against SARS-CoV-2 pseudovirus, various spike protein mutants, and even SARS-CoV in vitro. It might be a feasible tool for the prevention and control of ongoing COVID-19.’


      Nah, couldn’t be a ….con, could it?

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Up is down down is up war is peace norm is intelligent.

      • When I found the actual article online (written in 2020, published in 2021) the Introduction is as follows:


        Safe, cost-effective, universally available passive immunization methods are required to protect against infections caused by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus-2 (SARS-CoV-2) and its variants. Immunoglobulin Y (IgY) is a primary antibody in the egg yolk of oviparous animals [1] and can be readily isolated using precipitation techniques [2]. Immunization of chickens with antigen leads to specific IgY antibodies accumulating in the egg yolk. IgYs have drawn considerable attention as potential alternatives to sera and other immunoglobulins for passive immunization [3–5]. IgYs are safer than IgGs because they do not bind to human Fc receptors or fix mammalian complement components; hence they do not trigger potentially dangerous immune responses [6]. Hakalehto et al 2021 reported that IgY antibodies are one of the safest possible therapeutic agents [7]. IgY consumed orally is considered to be GRAS (“Generally Recognized as Safe”) by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration [8]. Additionally, oral IgY antibodies have been applied to treat pulmonary Pseudomonas aeruginosa infected patients, and no negative side have been observed in up to 10 years of use [9].

        Passive immunization with anti-SARS-CoV-2 IgY has several advantages including: a good safety profile, applicability to people in all geographical regions, high yield of IgY per egg, topi- cal rather than injectable application, and rapid mass production at a low cost given the avail- ability of large scale egg production for human consumption [10,11]. In addition, anti- SARS-CoV-2 IgY applied superficially to mucous membranes would not be expected to elicit antibody-dependent enhancement of infection [8]. Anti-SARS-CoV-2 IgY may be ideal for effective transient immunization while awaiting global COVID-19 vaccination or in immuno- compromised cases where vaccines might not be effective. Administration of the anti-SARS-CoV-2 IgY to the nasal passage and throat mucosa through the intranasal route is thought to increase the efficacy as it is given to the viral entry and replication site [8]. This route of administration might provide immediate and short-lived protection in healthcare and other high- risk individuals in regions where new variants of concern might emerge due to vaccination or in areas where COVID-19 vaccination is unavailable [8]. Anti-spike-S1 IgY has been shown to neutralize SARS-CoV-2 in vitro and/or to prevent binding to the ACE2 (angiotensin converting enzyme 2) receptor on human cells [12–14]. The receptor-binding domain (RBD), a func- tional domain in S1 [15], binds to ACE2 enabling virus entry into cells [16–18]. Blocking RBD–ACE2 interactions can block cellular entry of SARS-CoV-2. Previously, we reported the use of IgY antibodies against the S1 and S proteins of MERS-CoV for efficient viral inhibition both in vitro and in vivo [4,19]. In this study, we generated and characterized IgY-antibodies targeting SARS-CoV-2 RBD. The in vitro and in vivo properties of these antibodies were evaluated using susceptible cell lines and two SARS-Cov-2 infected mouse models.

        There is a recent substack article on this:

        Also this article:

      • Lastcall says:

        Saw this comment on a SS;
        (the narrative referred to is the ‘bird flu’ outbreak)

        ‘That’s the narrative. Nothing to do with the biggest egg producer fire. Or the Purina feed that stopped egg production for months before the farmers started comparing notes. (There was a change in the feed. Local feeds work and egg production starts again.) Or some other “unnatural pandemic” sponsored by Gates …’


        It appears the mix was messed with and farmers had to change suppliers to get hens laying again.

        This is Alice In Wonderland material!

    • Minority of One says:

      Strange, been reading about egg shortages in the USA. At my local Sainsbury’s supermarket here in Aberdeen, eggs are still cheap, about £2.50 for 12 large eggs, just over £2.00 for 12 medium eggs. There has never seen a shortage, yet. Same in other parts of the UK?

      On the other hand, I think the NHS (National Health Service) is doing a grand job of trying to finish us off. A two-month wait to see your GP, at least here. My wife requested to see her GP last September and got an appointment for November. I think this is a country-wide issue (UK) but not sure.

      • Lastcall says:

        Sorry, but visiting your GP is the 2nd last thing you should do.

        Taking advice from your GP is the last thing you should do.

        Never had a problem that I couldn’t solve with dietary/habit/environmental change; including for my kids and near family.
        Perhaps for a stitch or 2, or a broken limb etc, but prevention has been my first choice.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          100% truth.

          Although GPs are mostly vermin … we have to keep in mind their patients are also vermin … if told that throttling back on super sized cola and 3 for 1 pizza would bring BP back to normal and prevent the imminent onset of diabetes…. they’d be pissed off … fire the GP and find one who’d give them Magic Pills.

          Humans are basically MORE-ONS with brains who think what they do is ‘intelligence’… as in a good thing

      • Norman says:

        Organic = £4/doz.
        Lidl or Aldi.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Why spend extra on organic after filling your body with toxic Rat Juice?

          If I was you I’d try snorting Round Up to see if it gets you high.

  29. ivanislav says:


    The Longyou Caves (Chinese: 龙游石窟), also called the Xiaonanhai Stone Chambers (Chinese: 小南海石室), are a group of 24 artificial sandstone caverns located at Fenghuang Hill, near the village of Shiyan Beicun on the Qu River in Longyou County, Quzhou prefecture, Zhejiang province, China. Created more than 2,000 years ago, they were not recorded in any historical documents and were rediscovered by farmers in 1992.

    • Cromagnon says:


      But 2000 bp,…. I think not lol.

      • Vern Baker says:

        Im guessing you are thinking more like 6000 to 12000 bp.

        Whats your take on this Cromagnon?

        The Movie Great Pyramid K 2019

        Graham Hancock says that there are fossils found in the stone, so this film is not 100%, but I found it fascinating.

        • Student says:

          The video is misleading.
          It says that Egyptians migrated in India or something like that, but it misses completely that Egyptians were finally conquered and suppressed by Romans.
          See Cleopatra and Marcantonio for instance.
          In Italy is full of obelisks stolen by Romans to Egyptian after they conquered them.
          One is still in front of our Parlamient



          Also Romans were able to build incredible monuments and constructions (see for instance immense aqueducts they built everywere).


          I’m not saying that Aliens don’t exist or Gods or God don’t exist, I’m saying just what I’ve said above.

          • Vern Baker says:

            The film appears to cover up until about 4000 – 3000 bp or perhaps to just before the Romans, and suggests that the original Egyptians found their way to other places.

            The film suggests that they did not mix in with indigenous populations, which is why we don’t see traces of them today.

            The film states that aliens are a silly idea.

        • Cromagnon says:

          Make the builders Homo anunna and give me a power source other than a 5 meter diameter magnifying glass and we can sit down over a beer and discuss things.

          You can’t melt granite and get granite…, you get obsidian.

          You need high tech quality controls or the steam explosions at various points would be spectacular.

          Lot of work went into video however.

    • Kowalainen says:

      Sand/lime stone = leached concrete from a typical ‘ruin of the past’. Go reflect and meditate upon the sexual dimorphism of the rapacious primate.

      Soon you, too, shall understand.
      In the mean time:

      MOARons gonna moaron!

      Just send it!

  30. Mirror on the wall says:

    Some serious classics have been laid down in plastic. Just saying, if the English (Franco-Germans) want a voice then they seriously need to learn how to play music. Just saying.

  31. Fast Eddy says:

    Fast Eddy is not into an’al. If you want to ana.lysing talk to norm.

    Fast Eddy has 1500HP – that makes him .. beyond Reproach

    • lololol

      i did it again

      eddy’s early morning dash to the laptop—I click on one—obsessing about me—again!!!!!

      should i be flattered???or worried???

      Are you sure Ms Ardern hasn’t got the NZ morality police out looking for you eddy?

  32. Ed says:

    A fine example of complexity are tanks that are promised to Ukraine so politicians can say we did everything possible. The reality being bleeding edge tanks are complex, require complex repair, complex infrastructure to fix, complex infrastructure to protect and keep alive on the battle field, complex targeting systems to rely info to the tanks to make them effective, complex education of the tank commander, tank driver, tank repair persons. Also complex logistics to keep them fueled with 500 gallons of jet fuel per fill-up while out in the middle of nowhere in the mud.

    Most/all commentators believe the tanks will be of little value to Ukraine due exactly to the excess complexity.

    Not to mention, they will not get the reactive armor, nor the depleted uranium shells.

    • Its the details that matter! Complexity doesn’t really help in a situation like this.

      • banned says:

        Once again I think its a function of change. High consumption military technology is very effective in a expanding energy environment. The technology can be nurtured and logistics supported by the abundant energy. Misconceptions arise. abundant energy is not seen as the force just the military technology. This leads to faith in high energy consumption technology and disregard for the abundant energy that allows it to be effective.
        In a abundant world you have lots of technicians fuel and parts for the technology. In a non abundant world throw away drones from the remaining cheap manufacturing may well be more effective.

        The military is well aware of this and we see the focus on military technology moving to less energy intensive measures. Maybe they are glad to get rid of those gas guzzling Abram dinosaurs? Its the military version of corporate outsourcing. Assets including personnel have to provide value in new energy realities or they are discarded. Effectiveness is directly correlated with adaptation to new energy realities.

      • Sam says:

        Who knows! We can only speculate! I’m sure there is a lot ! Of disinformation! Funny how everyone on here without any military experience become military experts overnight!!!

  33. banned says:

    Ukrainian commander “Madyar” thanks the participants in the chemical weapon and delivery system development and says they are preferable to more extreme measures. “hundreds soon to be thousands” units deployed.by his account.

    What next?



    • JesseJames says:

      I’ve been seeing comments on MoonofAlabama about use of chemical weapons. If true, then things are getting nastier. It is hard to know the truth of what is happening there. One commenter noted that Ukraine’s largest refinery is still in operation. If true, it makes one question everything about the war.

      More and more comments coming up also questioning what the heck Putin is doing. Is he committed to defeating Ukraine? It seems that Russia is racking up casualties (a lot less than Ukraine).

  34. Lastcall says:

    Status. Explains much.

    ‘Being famous. Knowing someone famous. Getting a laugh after telling a joke. Getting a good grade. Getting likes on a social media post. Winning a video game. Cooking a tasty meal. Being good looking. Having inside knowledge. Sharing a good recommendation.

    We often think of status exclusively in terms of wealth, but it’s actually at play everywhere, in every situation where we get the feeling of being of value, where we feel ever so slightly elevated in our relative social position. The universal human desire for status greatly influences our culture, as well as our own behavior and the ups and downs of our mood.’

    ‘We also discuss how when you try to eliminate certain status games by making things equal, people just find other status games to play, and that when one hierarchy is destroyed, another simply rises to take its place.’


    • I can understand the quest for status more among men than women. Women have a quest for security and a quest to be loved, wanted, and needed. Some women have more of a quest for status than others.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      norm goes to the pub and tells all his ‘mates’ (the people that are too polite to tell him to feck off)… he knows Fast Eddy…

      They don’t care though cuz they have no idea who FE is.

      • Saw eddy’s ‘morning rush’—(7 in a row 8.56..9.07–then potty break–then 17/21/22/23/24 one a minute—phew–are these before after or during breakfast eddy?)—i pick one–and there’s me being obsessed about again.

        Hope you weren’t lying awake all night having unseemly fantasies about me eddy?

        • Fast Eddy says:

          I had a nightmare … I was forced to watch you and SSS go at it Out Back of the Dumpster from Hell — mike and anna were there too along with dunc and they were clapping along shouting Go norm Go … Go norm Go…

  35. banned says:

    THe usually accurate Southfront organization reports on AFU chemical weapon usage in Ukraine.


  36. Herbie Ficklestein. says:

    The winter’s “tripledemic” of respiratory viruses impacted nearly 40 percent of U.S. households, with someone there getting sick with the flu, COVID-19 or respiratory syncytial virus (RSV), according to a new survey from KFF released Tuesday.

    The flu and RSV hit much harder and earlier this year than in years past, as viruses kept at bay during the height of the pandemic began infecting people again following the resumption of every-day activities.

    The overlap between influenza, RSV and a cold-weather surge in coronavirus infections led to concerns of a so-called “tripledemic.”

    According to the survey, nearly half of respondents said the news of those three viruses spreading made them more likely to wear masks or take other precautions to avoid getting sick, such as wearing a mask in public or avoiding large gatherings.

    The flu affected 27 percent of households over the past month or so, with 15 percent saying someone in their homes got sick with COVID-19. RSV infected someone in about 10 percent of homes, the survey found.

    But as the COVID-19 pandemic turns 3 years old, 69 percent of the public said they are “not too” or “not at all” worried about getting seriously ill from the virus.

    Those numbers are partially reflected in the people who reported receiving the bivalent COVID-19 booster shot.

    As the federal government prepares to end its public health emergency declaration in May, just 28 percent of respondents said they received an updated COVID-19 bivalent vaccine booster shot, though that number is up slightly from 22 percent in December.

    And the Survey says….

    Whatever those that want it to …

  37. banned says:

    Alleged AFU use of chemical weapon. Fake? Real?


    This thing is going to get out of hand.


    • Fast Eddy says:

      How can we know if any footage ‘coming out of Ukraine’ is real?

      This looks like he’s on Mars


      We’ve come a long way since those fake moon landings


      • banned says:

        With CGI any video can be questioned. It comes down to trust. All narratives could be false. Just because they could be false doesnt mean they are.

        Where does that leave us? I think its wisest to say we just dont know. Now I have my feelings my so called “intuition”. I dont think its wise to draw definitive conclusions from that. Nor do I think it is wise to draw conclusions from any particular narrative presented to us by the MSM however compelling. Giant Sars Cov 2 mascots track n trace team dance tropes. That doesnt mean the “alternative” media is honest either. The fact is we dont know what is real.

        The slicker the presentation the more it hits our buttons the more i question. BUTONS BUTTONS BUTTONS. It doesnt matter if its Rachel Massow or Stew Peters. That seems disconcerting but i think we need to find appropriate values based on that. Even our mentor and teachers Gail presentations. I notice she avoids buttons. Damn it yet another preference/filter. A grain of salt with EVERTHING! WE are not all that. We dont have understanding. That leaves a lot of leeway for what we consider reality. Im a pragmatic sort of guy. Its hard for me to realize what we choose with our hearts is important. The reality is we just dont know. We do have our hearts and our actions. IMO what guides my heart and actions is always best with a grain of salt.

        Could the Ukraine war narrative be a big fake soap opera that has drawn me in? Its possible. I dont think so I think its a very real very risky situation. Along with that must come a grain of salt because i understand that I just dont know. Without that grain of salt I could be just another mark caught up in a false narrative. That very drama that I find scary, risky, uncertain could be part of the narratives bait. Guess we wont know unless the nukes start flying. I would consider a nuclear device detonating in my vicinity definitive.

        Humans have all sorts of filters. We are one big filter collection. Some people reject any narrative that involves fear and risk as false. Some people enjoy those sort of narratives. So above all what we should question is the validity of our filters and emotional bias. One of the hardest things to accept seems to be our lack of objectivity in our paradigms. More and more I find the quality of humbleness to be appropriate to cultivate. None the less I find the arguments that a nuclear exchange is approaching compelling including the the rather draconian events in your neck of the woods, a bit of rock that has always been regarded as “on the beach”. (now new improved Hoolio edition)

        • Fast Eddy says:

          When the Ukey war started… I watched a ‘war correspondent’ in full battle gear … interviewing people getting onto a public train .. with everyone on the train going about their normal business … zero concern for safety …. and I thought WTF?

          Then I saw another clip of a BBC ‘war correspondent’ … apparently in the middle of an ongoing battle… but in the background you could see a women walking with her shopping bags… without a care in the world. WTF.

          Maybe my memory is bad but I seem to recall when there was a war the place would be crawling with journalists both pros and neophytes who were willing to take snaps hoping to get hired by CNNBBC… not ‘war correspondents’ in costume… interviewing people going to school or work….

          There are many more examples of fakery including that clip where they drive past a ravaged village taken on a mobile phone … you can see in the rear view mirror of the vehicle the ‘dead’ bodies standing up after the camera crew has passed by.

          We’ve even seen clips of camera crews and a director telling the crisis actors what to do for a shot….

          It’s fascinating that even though the fakery has been exposed over and over and over… and we know what CGI can do… that most people will insist I am crazy for suggesting this war is likely to be faked…

          We know that it is being used an excuse for everything by CNNBBC including inflation …

          We know that Russia has a very powerful professional military – fighting against a clown show — who gives a f789 if the US is arming the clowns… they are still clowns

          And we’ve seen the massive psyop and PR campaign promoting Zelensky — who is a total f789ing clown (comedian actually) who is addicted to blow — as a beacon for democracy… come the f789 on …

          While pushing the cranks yesterday … I was thinking about how the Elders cleverly present the Deep State as the real power behind democracy … as we know there is the PBS doco – The Deep State Hiding in Plain Site….

          And it occurred to me that this famous speech was not what it seemed… a retiring president warning about the power of the Deep State… this is not a warning at all.. it is part of the PR campaign to convince the mob that the Deep State is the real power… to ensure that nobody points to the Elders…. very clever indeed…

          Warning hahaha… this was not a warning … it was a con job

          Assume everything is fake … and go from there

      • Student says:

        Footage compare often about Ukraine on Italian mainstream media.
        Here you can find the video of Russian soldiers hit by a drone.


        Maybe it is a camera of another drone or via satellites.

        That also demonstrate that it is not necessary to have an areostatic Chinese baloon to spy US and that the relative story is just a circus.

        • Student says:

          At the same time Al Mayadeen, which (if I’m not wrong) should be Lebanese and therefore maybe not-so-friend of US, says that:

          ”Chinese balloon, among many more, part of aerial spy program: US intel.
          US intel suspects the balloon is a tool of a surveillance program by the Chinese Army, one of many to collect sensitive military information.
          […] US intelligence believes that the suspected Chinese surveillance balloon, which has been shot down by the US military, was part of a vast surveillance program of China’s People’s Liberation Army, The Washington Post reported on Tuesday, citing several US officials.
          […] ‘”What the Chinese have done is taken an unbelievably old technology, and basically married it with modern communications and observation capabilities”


          (if the link doesn’t work, one can go on the homepage and should easily find the article)

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Hmmm… so a drone or whatever just happened to be directly overhead when a bomb dropped on these men in a hole….

          I would note that some of the fighter jet action was demonstrated to have come from a video game.

          We also have footage and photos of other wars being reused.

          It’s a f789ing war – why would they be doing any of this???? Surely there’d be daily footage of atrocities…

          Remember this? https://www.projectveritas.com/news/cbs-news-this-morning-aired-faked-covid-19-drive-through-testing-site-line/

          The hospitals were ‘overwhelmed’ …. should be easy to get real footage…but nope … they asked staff to make a fake queue…

          Trust nothing. If you have evidence of fakery (and there is plenty re Ukey) then assume the whole thing is a con.

          I know this is difficult — because it leaves one flailing like a drowning man desperately trying to find a log of reality to cling to…. not a pleasant feeling.

          • Ed says:

            The video is from the drone that dropped the bomb.

          • Yorchichan says:

            I often pick up Ukranian children from school and take them to a hotel filled with refugees. They at least are real. I don’t like to ask them about the war.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              I’d ask

            • Xabier says:

              Good morning, Yorkichan.

              Re your stove problem, have you ever thought about those big portable camping stoves?

              You need only drill a very small hole through an external wall, easily concealed if inspected, or run the flue through an open window, you can get a fire-proof flap to cover the gap, as used in tents and yurts.

              At least it would be one more emergency resource.

            • Yorchichan says:

              Thanks Xabier. I’m exploring my legal rights at the moment and have asked the JRHT for legal clarification. I am an owner occupier and not a tenant, so I want some proof of their power over me.

              I’ve set my heart on sitting in front of a hot stove like Stefan from Sanity4Sweden, though now that I’m used to the cold I don’t feel like I’m suffering at all. Your camping stove idea sounds very similar to Stefan’s stove.

            • Withnail says:

              Thanks Xabier. I’m exploring my legal rights at the moment and have asked the JRHT for legal clarification. I am an owner occupier and not a tenant, so I want some proof of their power over me.

              You’re sure you have unencumbered freehold ownership and you’re not technically a tenant?

              You might have a 999 year peppercorn lease, that’s quite a common thing.

  38. kakatoa says:

    The CPUC recently had this to say about complexity-

    “A. HIGH COMPLEXITY Stakeholders have noted concerns about high complexity associated with SSDR resource procurement mechanisms and program implementation.”


    which supports the “spiral” noted in 1).

    • This is something I should look over carefully. It is from the California Public Utilities Commission, about the electricity mess in California. Its title is “Advanced Strategies for Demand Flexibility Management and Customer Distributed Energy Resource Compensation.”

      • kakatoa says:


        CA’s decarbonization scoping plan has always had some form of demand response. A recent blog post over at the Hass Energy Institue highlighted the paper noted above. More from Meridiths post-

        “California has situated itself on the bleeding edge of decarbonization efforts. So we are hitting the hairballs before other jurisdictions. This has spurred some notable, and often controversial, plumbing efforts in the Golden State. Here are a few that I’m following:

        Land use/local permitting: California recently issued “emergency regulations” (AB 205) that delegate blanket authority to bypass local permitting for siting of solar, wind, and certain battery backup projects.”…

        Fowlie, Meredith, “What the Energy Transition Needs Now is a Good Plumber”, Energy Institute Blog, UC Berkeley, February 6, 2023, https://energyathaas.wordpress.com/2023/02/06/what-the-energy-transition-needs-now-is-a-good-plumber/

  39. ivanislav says:

    We in the USA have all the coal we will ever need, plus tar-sands once we conquer Canada (it won’t be much work and we’ll make them apologize just for fun).

    We are going to BURN EVERYTHING and it’s going to be great!

    • We may have all of the coal we need, but it doesn’t seem to be economically extractable. There does seem to be a lot of coal in Alaska, for example. A little global warming would make it more accessible. Then people could move to Alaska.

      Canada’s oil sands are being exploited now. They are what provide diesel and jet fuel. US crude oil tends to be too light. US imports of crude and products from Canada seems to be down a bit from 2019. This contributes to the world tightness of diesel and jet fuel.

      • drb753 says:

        All true. But since this crisis is at its core a diesel crisis, and the sands are located in a contiguous colony, the US is going to be Ok for quite a while. I also suspect that a field, harvested not by well but by giant excavators, will not follow the bell curves that Huppert and others used. That is, you excavate tar and sand until there is no more. It will be an awful collapse then, with diesel coming to a halt suddenly, but much later than people think. 2040 for the US perhaps?

        • Withnail says:

          All true. But since this crisis is at its core a diesel crisis, and the sands are located in a contiguous colony, the US is going to be Ok for quite a while

          Bear in mind lots of cheap natural gas is also needed to produce anything from the tar sands. You have to turn the tar into some sort of oil before you can do anything with it.

          • drb753 says:

            True. The tar sands tax both the transport (diesel and electrical) and refining systems (natgas) a lot. But at least no metal is wasted in well pipes and pipelines.Regardless, the dependence on Tar sands could produce an outcome where the US lasts longer than expected.

    • Ed says:

      🙂 1812 never forget

      • ivanislav says:

        Finally a winnable war!

      • Replenish says:

        Great. I’ll start working on an updated version of Johnny Horton’s “Battle of New Orleans.” I have the 45 record on my memorabilia shelf next to a WWE Roddy Piper Doll and The Muppets “Animal” playdrum.

        Well we fired them guns and the Canucks kept a coming. Wasnt so many as there was awhile ago.. ole Tulsi said we could take ’em by surprise If we didn’t fire our AR’s ’til we looked ’em in the eye..” We fired our cannon ’til the barrel melted down So we grabbed a Muskie and we fought another round??

  40. Sam says:

    Gail, left wing media is promoting stories that oil companies are making record profits. What do say to someone who says if oil companies are making such great profits why be worried? It’s the oil companies fault that we have to pay for high gas prices and when the war is over prices will come back down

    • The problem that oil companies have is that there are no good places (where oil can be extracted at reasonable cost) available to drill. Most of the problem is that the best places to extract oil were drilled first, and all that is left is the leftovers. Part of the problem is that President Biden is not opening up areas to drill, for political reasons. How material this is, is unclear. Also, it is clear that politicians around the world, including President Biden, will keep oil prices low, so that companies cannot recover the high cost of exploration, drilling and oil company taxes. Thus, they have no motivation to reinvest.

      The prices, in theory, should be enough for both current drilling and reinvestment. Oil companies have decided that there is nothing useful for reinvestment (Including “green energy”). Without anyplace to spend their money profitably, they are giving the money back to shareholders. They are in the process of giving up and leaving the industry.

      • Sam says:

        Well doesn’t that make sense to use all the cheap oil from other countries before you open up your area for drilling? Last man standing

        • banned says:

          Debt for resources is one hell of a trade. It beats a cannister of nerve gas going off next to you regardless of which party you are. A bargain.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          The last man would not be standing for more than a few minutes cuz the moment one key country unplugs from BAU … the global financial system collapses… as does the last man standing

        • Withnail says:

          Well doesn’t that make sense to use all the cheap oil from other countries before you open up your area for drilling? Last man standing

          They aren’t doing that. The whole ‘Biden won’t let the oil companies drill’ is a fake news story based on the cancellation of a Federal auction for drilling permits that no oil companies wanted.

          There is no significant oil on the remaining undrilled Federal land, that has been known for a very long time.

          You have to read the news very carefully these days to avoid being sucked into the world of lies.

  41. Herbie Ficklestein. says:

    MEMPHIS, Tenn. (AP) — Beyond the beating, kicking, cursing and pepper spraying, the video of Tyre Nichols’ deadly arrest at the hands of young Memphis police officers is just as notable for what’s missing — any experienced supervisors showing up to stop them.

    That points to a dangerous confluence of trends that Memphis’ police chief acknowledged have dogged the department as the city became one of the nation’s murder hotspots: a chronic shortage of officers, especially supervisors, increasing numbers of police quitting and a struggle to bring in qualified recruits.

    Former Memphis police recruiters told The Associated Press of a growing desperation to fill hundreds of slots in recent years that drove the department to increase incentives and lower its standards.

    “They would allow just pretty much anybody to be a police officer because they just want these numbers,” said Alvin Davis, a former lieutenant in charge of recruiting before he retired last year out of frustration. “They’re not ready for it.”

    I as you..who in their right mind would take employment as a police officer or elementary school teacher in today’s culture?

    • banned says:

      I consider myself objective in regard to law enforcement. I had a cop friend who died a few years back. Ex special forces he was exactly the kind of guy you would want to show up if the chips were down. He was bright cheerful generally liked people including civilians. If you like people you are less apt to harm them. He spoke his mind and regarded all peoples equal even pesky citizens. He was generally happy. I believe his rank was captain when he left the force because of health.

      After Floyd it seemed that there were possibilities for more training and less tolerance of police abuse. IMO the exact opposite has happened. The kind of people you want wearing a badge have left. It takes certain qualities to be capable of wielding force yet avoiding its use if at all possible. It takes gentleness. You must like people. These qualities are in demand in other professions. Many with these qualities have left for other jobs or never joined. The individuals joining the police force now have less options. They are drawn to it for other reasons also. IMO the result is a post Floyd police force much less trained, much less skilled and more probable to use force inappropriately. Cops are dangerous. I dont despise them I avoid them same way I avoid a brown bear or a MC club. Suits me fine. Suits them fine.

      People do their job best with happiness and joy. The post Floyd cop shop became less happy and less joyous and is diminished as a result.

  42. Herbie Ficklestein. says:

    PAUL J. WEBER and ACACIA CORONADO Associate Press
    Mon, February 6, 2023 at 3:54 PM EST
    AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — Like thousands of other Austin residents, Darin Murphy began a sixth day Monday with no power in his home, wrapping his head around the city’s latest demoralizing update: Getting the lights fully back on may take another week.

    “We are planning for worst-case scenario,” he said.

    Making any plans has been difficult — and downright infuriating — for nearly 20,000 customers who still had no electricity Monday nearly a week after a deadly ice storm crippled the Texas capital and brought down power lines under the weight of fallen and frozen tree limbs. Schools finally reopened, but noisy generators rattled before dawn and outdoor extension cords running 100 feet (30 meters) or longer became lifelines between neighbors who had power and those who didn’t.

    The boiling frustration over the slow pace of restoring power, and officials repeatedly saying they could not offer timetables for repairs, escalated Monday as the future of Austin’s top city executive plunged into jeopardy even as the number of outages continued falling.

    ….., grew so fed up that when Austin Energy came to her neighborhood Sunday with a charging station for residents — but still no repair trucks — she paced in front of the station holding a poster that read, “This pregnant lady is over it!”

    “It’s been pretty miserable,” said Manganella, a therapist who is seven months pregnant and was unable to work last week because of the outages. “How is there no plan for this?”

    Austin Energy has described the remaining outages as the most complicated and time-consuming. The storm plunged temperatures near or below freezing and coated trees with ice across Austin, weighing down branches that eventually snapped and crashed onto power lines. Iced-over equipment and crews driving on slick roads also slowed recovery efforts, according to city officials.

    Crews have also come across “irate customers” out in the field, said Craig Brooks, director of operations for Austin Energy, including one instance in which police were called. He did not provide specifics about the encounters, describing them as, “Some verbal. Some people protecting their property.”

    The utility warned Monday that a new front of high winds and potential storms starting Tuesday could further hamper restoration efforts.

    Yo, Welcome in doing the Nuttie Eddie Challenge…don’t worry the Electric Company is coming soon with trucks to fix your Electric…

    Maybe this is a test group for another round of Fast Eddie’s UEP ..?
    The Elders are very devious indeed

    • Planning for electricity to save us is fraught with peril. It takes oil powered trucks and workmen who know what they are doing, with appropriate repair materials to fix the transmission. This happens after every storm. Nearly all lines in the US are above ground (except in parts of some cities), so this is what happens.

    • Ed says:

      The ratio of death to maimed is about 1 to 3. This would be 250 million dead and 750 million maimed. I think we have seen 2 million dead world wide. I would need to see data before believing 25 million. 250 million has not happened and will require a drastic acceleration of death rate.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        If you consider the number of dead and maimed athletes and celebs… the overall numbers in the general population must be huge

  43. Mirror on the wall says:

    Some more UK census results have been released. The major find this time is that ‘no religion’ is now more common than Christianity among the under-65s with major shifts over the past 10 years. Christians now have an average age of 51 and 30% are over 65. It is likely not just generational decline, and large numbers of persons have shifted to ‘no religion’ over the decade.

    > Average age of Christians rises to 51: Census shows more under-65s now declare ‘no religion’ for first time – while Muslims are just 27 on average

    Latest release from 2021 census shows changing face of religion among ages

    Christians getting older and now outnumbered by ‘no religion’ among under-65s

    The country’s shifting beliefs were laid bare today with census figures showing the average age of Christians has hit 51.

    The age has risen from 45 at the time of the last huge survey in England and Wales in 2011. For the first time the research in 2021 found that more of those aged under 65 said they had ‘no religion’ than were Christian.

    Although the age profile for other religions was also up, Christians were by far the oldest. Muslims are on average just 27.

    The striking picture emerged as the Office for National Statistics (ONS) released a breakdown of responses to the religion question by age and sex.

    The youngest average age was 27 years, for people identifying as Muslim, up from 25 in 2011.

    Hindus were up from 32 years to 37 years, Sikhs from 32 to 37, Buddhists from 37 to 43. The average for people said they were Jewish was unchanged at 41.

    Nearly three in 10 – 29 per cent – of those who identified as Christian at this census were aged 65 and over. That was up from just 22.3 per cent a decade before.

    By contrast, the proportion of 21-25 year-olds identifying as Christian has fallen from 5.1 per cent to 3.9 per cent [of all Christians].

    Only 8.8 per cent of those who said they had no religion were aged 65 and over, compared with 18.6 per cent of the overall population who belong in this age group.

    More than half of people in each year from age 22 to age 30 said they had no religion.

    Some 20.25million of under-65s said they had no religion, compared to 19.53million in the age band who were Christian.

    That contrasted with 2011, when 25.85million under-65s declared they were Christian, and just 13.31million had no religion.

    Humanists UK chief executive Andrew Copson said: ‘Today’s results only serve to underline the archaic place that collective worship and faith-based discrimination have in our schools. That urgently needs to be looked at.

    ‘But more generally, they make plain that the UK faces a non-religious future. This is in stark contrast to how our state institutions operate today. No other European country has such a religious set-up as we do in terms of law and public policy, while at the same time having such a non-religious population.

    ‘Politicians should look at today’s results and recognise they must renegotiate the place of religion or belief in today’s society.’

    • Religions are a way of organizing society. With less energy, there is less energy for religions. Governments would like to take quite a bit of the energy formerly used for religions. They would like to be viewed as the new salvation for all. The promise of pensions is what allows families to have few children, for example.

      • Mirror on the wall says:

        Humanists UK are basically a late bourgeois movement, and we live in such a society. They reflect certain social and ultimately material-energetic-social trends. And that is OK. We live in the here and now.

        It is indisputable that religion is on the decline in UK, but its past/ recent influence could be exaggerated in any case. It is pretty ‘nominal’ here, which is likely what ‘worked’ in the then.

        A congregation is a sum of egos in it for their own personal reasons.

        The economy is likely to shift in ways not foreseen by Humanists UK, and social and ideological trends with it. And that is OK too. History is what it is, and that includes the present and the future.

        Maybe we can enjoy the cultural icons of the present, while the present prevails.

      • Kim says:

        “With less energy, there is less energy for religions”

        Huh. I would have said the opposite: “With less energy (modernity) there is less energy for irreligiosity.”

        Modernity – abundant surplus energy – allows people to indulge their fantasies of individuality and self-importance (solipsism). Take that abundant energy away and pretty soon people find that they can’t survive without the family, the tribe, and the stories that they tell about themselves.

        For example, White societies around the world are currently being destroyed bcs they have accepted the notion that they may no longer promulgate their own tribal narratives.

        • Christopher says:

          There are two important notions from thermodynamics also applicable to society. Energy and entropy. Energy is widely discussed. Entropy less so, it´s a measure on how well a system is able to turn energy into useful work. Gail discussed entropy to some extent in this article, which I think is one of the most interesting on our finite world:


          In a way you could say that culture and religion is a way to standardise human interaction enabling more efficient use of energy. As energy/capita increases this may be less important and solipsism/individualism works as a way to boost consumption, which, at some point, seems necessarry to the dissipative structure of society. I actually believe that immigration may be justified more from the comsumption side than from the labour side, at least in some parts of Europe were the labour participation of immigrants tend to be weaker than in for instance the USA.

          Of course, when energy/capita falls back again, this individualistic mind set along with multi-culti will cause serious problems. Entropy per capita does not fall back just because energy/capita falls. In fact, it´s likely to be the reverse.

    • We can all thank Chucky and his Worcester 200 for this.

      D. H. Lawrence wrote about the dysgenic effect after the Great War where a nobleman’s wife, after the husband was paralyzed at Flanders, reproduces with a lowly Irish gardener.

      100 years later, the Hindus and Africans own Britain, with a few older Brits not realizing what had happened still longing for its long dead empire.

      • ivanislav says:

        A culture that doesn’t protect and maintain itself is not a viable culture. So it’s going into the trash bin, as it should.

        • Mirror on the wall says:

          A ‘culture’ is not an end in itself. The plebs might be given to think so, but they can be sheep who need something to ‘believe’ in. Cultures and their ‘decline’ can be weaponised politically and even geopolitically. They tend to single out the same people as an attack strategy. Humans are what they are, and that is OK. But I would not pursue that approach too far or you are liable to get an answer in kind. Maybe try to think of something else?

        • Ed says:

          China, Japan, North Korea are all holding their society together. Part of India also.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            Here’s another obvious fact that doomies ignore …

            We are told north koreans resort to eating bark and grass when times are tough…

            Think about that

        • Ed says:

          I used to be angry but now am just sad about the death of the west. It is not viable.

          India, China, Israel, Mexico you win.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        D. H. Lawrence wrote about the dysgenic effect after the Great War where a lowly nobleman’s wife, after the husband was paralyzed at Flanders, reproduces with an Irish gardener.

        How do you like that version?

        • Mirror on the wall says:

          Ironic, take out the immigrants, particularly the France Iron Age and the German Early Middle Ages, and you would be left basically with the Irish on Britain – and then some turn around and have a go at the Irish immigrants.

          Very few of us understand such matters. And people generally are at the mercy of people who do not even try to understand what is going on – including most Irish – but we do not pretend to ‘save’ anyone. We leave that to others.

          But never forget, I am always here – until I am not. Mirror is time limited.

          • Xabier says:

            Excellent Mirror, thank you.

            That will put a renewed swing in my axing this beautiful bright morning!

    • Jeff says:

      There is no ‘no religion’ world. If you remove Christianity, Islam, Judaism etc from people’s brains some other religion will take its place e.g., COVID cult, Climate Change, identifying as ‘X’, Invisible Spaghetti Monster. Trying to remove religion is like digging in wet sand. There’s a good Taleb talk on this subject on the IDW podcast.

  44. Student says:

    (Eventi avversi + Daily clout)

    ‘Vermont had DOUBLE the Number of Fatal Cardiac Arrests in 2022 Compared to the Pre-Pandemic Average’ […] ‘Vermont is also the Nation’s most vaccinated state’.



    • I suppose the rising cardiac arrests will be blamed on the rising number of older citizens. In fact, the number of deaths is shown to be 117 back in 2015 compared to 314 in 2022. What is going on? The rise in cardiac deaths has been taking place for a long time. It is hard to simply blame the new vaccines, given the long history of an upward trend.

  45. lolololol eddy

    following my basic rule—i delete 49 eddys, and open the 50th—all at random

    sure enough—thereya go again—obsessing about me. I watch your 8am dash to the laptop for the first half dozen of the day—I don’t open them, the content matter is already well established.

    You really should get a life eddy—you fixate on me so much, that if you lived in a country that was less tolerant, you would be getting a visit from the morality police.

    You have Ms Ardern to thank for that—even though she doesn’t live up to your high standards of pulchritude, (but then who does, except yourself?)

    At least you and Robinson are meant for each other.

    (I see your crisis actors are doing well in Turkey at the moment?)

  46. ivanislav says:

    Eddy, you’re getting props and well known all throughout our little online energy-collapse ecosystem:


    February 4, 2023 at 10:03 am
    Fast Eddy the only one that seems to understand the thermodynamic underpinnings of the economy over at that blog…everyone else like a headless chicken …though I’m sure we’ll all be headless fairly soon 😂”

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