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Many people believe that installing more wind turbines and solar panels and manufacturing more electric vehicles can solve our energy problem, but I don’t agree with them. These devices, plus the batteries, charging stations, transmission lines and many other structures necessary to make them work represent a high level of complexity.
A relatively low level of complexity, such as the complexity embodied in a new hydroelectric dam, can sometimes be used to solve energy problems, but we cannot expect ever-higher levels of complexity to always be achievable.
According to the anthropologist Joseph Tainter, in his well-known book, The Collapse of Complex Societies, there are diminishing returns to added complexity. In other words, the most beneficial innovations tend to be found first. Later innovations tend to be less helpful. Eventually the energy cost of added complexity becomes too high, relative to the benefit provided.
In this post, I will discuss complexity further. I will also present evidence that the world economy may already have hit complexity limits. Furthermore, the popular measure, “Energy Return on Energy Investment” (EROEI) pertains to direct use of energy, rather than energy embodied in added complexity. As a result, EROEI indications tend to suggest that innovations such as wind turbines, solar panels and EVs are more helpful than they really are. Other measures similar to EROEI make a similar mistake.
[1] In this video with Nate Hagens, Joseph Tainter explains how energy and complexity tend to grow simultaneously, in what Tainter calls the Energy-Complexity Spiral.

According to Tainter, energy and complexity build on each other. At first, growing complexity can be helpful to a growing economy by encouraging the uptake of available energy products. Unfortunately, this growing complexity reaches diminishing returns because the easiest, most beneficial solutions are found first. When the benefit of added complexity becomes too small relative to the additional energy required, the overall economy tends to collapse–something he says is equivalent to “rapidly losing complexity.”
Growing complexity can make goods and services less expensive in several ways:
- Economies of scale arise due to larger businesses.
- Globalization allows use of alternative raw materials, cheaper labor and energy products.
- Higher education and more specialization allow more innovation.
- Improved technology allows goods to be less expensive to manufacture.
- Improved technology may allow fuel savings for vehicles, allowing ongoing fuel savings.
Strangely enough, in practice, growing complexity tends to lead to more fuel use, rather than less. This is known as Jevons’ Paradox. If products are less expensive, more people can afford to buy and operate them, so that total energy consumption tends to be greater.
[2] In the above linked video, one way Professor Tainter describes complexity is that it is something that adds structure and organization to a system.
The reason I consider electricity from wind turbines and solar panels to be much more complex than, say, electricity from hydroelectric plants, or from fossil fuel plants, is because the output from the devices is further from what is needed to fill the demands of the electricity system we currently have operating. Wind and solar generation need complexity to fix their intermittency problems.
With hydroelectric generation, water is easily captured behind a dam. Often, some of the water can be stored for later use when demand is high. The water captured behind the dam can be run through a turbine, so that the electrical output matches the pattern of alternating current used in the local area. The electricity from a hydroelectric dam can be quickly added to other available electricity generation to match the pattern of electricity consumption users would prefer.
On the other hand, the output of wind turbines and solar panels requires a great deal more assistance (“complexity”) to match the electricity consumption pattern of consumers. Electricity from wind turbines tends to be very disorganized. It comes and goes according to its own schedule. Electricity from solar panels is organized, but the organization is not well aligned with the pattern of consumers prefer.
A major issue is that electricity for heating is required in winter, but solar electricity is disproportionately available in the summer; wind availability is irregular. Batteries can be added, but these mostly mitigate wrong “time-of-day” problems. Wrong “time-of-year” problems need to be mitigated with a lightly used parallel system. The most popular backup system seems to be natural gas, but backup systems with oil or coal can also be used.
This double system has a higher cost than either system would have if operated alone, on a full-time basis. For example, a natural gas system with pipelines and storage needs to be put in place, even if electricity from natural gas is only used for part of the year. The combined system needs experts in all areas, including electricity transmission, natural gas generation, repair of wind turbines and solar panels, and battery manufacture and maintenance. All of this requires educational systems and international trade, sometimes with unfriendly countries.
I also consider electric vehicles to be complex. One major problem is that the economy will require a double system, (for internal combustion engines and electric vehicles) for many, many years. Electric vehicles require batteries made using elements from around the world. They also need a whole system of charging stations to fill their need for frequent recharging.
[3] Professor Tainter makes the point that complexity has an energy cost, but this cost is virtually impossible to measure.
Energy needs are hidden in many areas. For example, to have a complex system, we need a financial system. The cost of this system cannot be added back in. We need modern roads and a system of laws. The cost of a government providing these services cannot be easily discerned. An increasingly complex system needs education to support it, but this cost is also hard to measure. Also, as we note elsewhere, having double systems adds other costs that are hard to measure or predict.
[3] The energy-complexity spiral cannot continue forever in an economy.
The energy-complexity spiral can reach limits in at least three ways:
[a] Extraction of minerals of all kinds is placed in the best locations first. Oil wells are first placed in areas where oil is easy to extract and close to population areas. Coal mines are first placed in locations where coal is easy to extract and transportation costs to users will be low. Mines for lithium, nickel, copper, and other minerals are put in the best-yielding locations first.
Eventually, the cost of energy production rises, rather than falls, due to diminishing returns. Oil, coal, and energy products become more expensive. Wind turbines, solar panels, and batteries for electric vehicles also tend to become more expensive because the cost of the minerals to manufacture them rises. All kinds of energy goods, including “renewables,” tend to become less affordable. In fact, there are many reports that the cost of producing wind turbines and solar panels rose in 2022, making the manufacture of these devices unprofitable. Either higher prices of finished devices or lower profitability for those producing the devices could stop the rise in usage.
[b] Human population tends to keep rising if food and other supplies are adequate, but the supply of arable land stays close to constant. This combination puts pressure on society to produce a continuous stream of innovations that will allow greater food supply per acre. These innovations eventually reach diminishing returns, making it more difficult for food production to keep up with population growth. Sometimes adverse fluctuations in weather patterns make it clear that food supplies have been too close to the minimum level for many years. The growth spiral is pushed down by spiking food prices and the poor health of workers who can only afford an inadequate diet.
[c] Growth in complexity reaches limits. The earliest innovations tend to be most productive. For example, electricity can be invented only once, as can the light bulb. Globalization can only go so far before a maximum level is reached. I think of debt as part of complexity. At some point, debt cannot be repaid with interest. Higher education (needed for specialization) reaches limits when workers cannot find jobs with sufficiently high wages to repay educational loans, besides covering living costs.
[4] One point Professor Tainter makes is that if the available energy supply is reduced, the system will need to simplify.
Typically, an economy grows for well over one hundred years, reaches energy-complexity limits, and then collapses over a period of years. This collapse can occur in different ways. A layer of government can collapse. I think of the collapse of the central government of the Soviet Union in 1991 as a form of collapse to a lower level of simplicity. Or one country conquers another country (with energy-complexity problems), taking over the government and resources of the other country. Or a financial collapse occurs.
Tainter says that simplification usually doesn’t happen voluntarily. One example he gives of voluntary simplification involves the Byzantine Empire in the 7th century. With less funding available for the military, it abandoned some of its distant posts, and it used a less costly approach to operating its remaining posts.
[5] In my opinion, it is easy for EROEI calculations (and similar calculations) to overstate the benefit of complex types of energy supply.
A major point that Professor Tainter makes in the talk linked above is that complexity has an energy cost, but the energy cost of this complexity is virtually impossible to measure. He also makes the point that growing complexity is seductive; the overall cost of complexity tends to grow over time. Models tend to miss necessary parts of the overall system needed to support a highly complex new source of energy supply.
Because the energy required for complexity is hard to measure, EROEI calculations with respect to complex systems will tend to make complex forms of electricity generation, such as wind and solar, look like they use less energy (have a higher EROEI) than they actually do. The problem is that EROEI calculations consider only direct “energy investment” costs. For example, the calculations are not designed to collect information regarding the higher energy cost of a dual system, with parts of the system under-utilized for portions of the year. Annual costs will not necessarily be reduced proportionately.
In the linked video, Professor Tainter talks about the EROEI of oil over the years. I don’t have a problem with this type of comparison, especially if it stops before the recent change to greater use of fracking, since the level of complexity is similar. In fact, such a comparison omitting fracking seems to be the one that Tainter makes. Comparison among different energy types, with different complexity levels, is what is easily distorted.
[6] The current world economy already seems to be trending in the direction of simplification, suggesting that the tendency toward greater complexity is already past its maximum level, given the lack of availability of inexpensive energy products.
I wonder if we are already starting to see simplification in trade, especially international trade, because shipping (generally using oil products) is becoming high-priced. This might be considered a type of simplification, in response to a lack of sufficient inexpensive energy supply.

Based on Figure 2, trade as a percentage of GDP hit a peak in 2008. There has been a generally downward trend in trade since then, giving an indication that the world economy has tended to shrink back, at least in some ways, as it has hit high-price limits.
Another example of a trend toward lower complexity is the drop in US undergraduate college and university enrollment since 2010. Other data shows that undergraduate enrollment nearly tripled between 1950 and 2010, so the shift to a downtrend after 2010 presents a major turning point.

The reason why the shift in enrollment is a problem is because colleges and universities have a huge amount of fixed expenses. These include buildings and grounds that must be maintained. Often debt needs to be repaid, as well. Educational systems also have tenured faculty members that they are obligated to keep on their staff, under most circumstances. They may have pension obligations that are not fully funded, adding another cost pressure.
According to the college faculty members whom I have talked to, in recent years there has been pressure to improve the retention rate of students who have been admitted. In other words, they feel that they are being encouraged to keep current students from dropping out, even if it means lowering their standards a little. At the same time, faculty wages are not keeping pace with inflation.
Other information suggests that colleges and universities have recently put a great deal of emphasis on achieving a more diverse student body. Students who might not have been admitted in the past because of low high school grades are increasingly being admitted in order to keep the enrollment from dropping further.
From the students’ point of view, the problem is that jobs that pay a sufficiently high wage to justify the high cost of a college education are increasingly unavailable. This seems to be the reason for both the US student debt crisis and the drop in undergraduate enrollment.
Of course, if colleges are at least somewhat lowering their admission standards and perhaps lowering standards for graduation, as well, there is a need to “sell” these increasingly diverse graduates with somewhat lower undergraduate achievement records to governments and businesses who might hire them. It seems to me that this is a further sign of the loss of complexity.
[7] In 2022, the total energy costs for most OECD countries started spiking to high levels, relative to GDP. When we analyze the situation, electricity prices are spiking, as are the prices of coal and natural gas–the two types of fuel used most frequently to produce electricity.

The OECD is an intergovernmental organization of mostly rich countries that was formed to stimulate economic progress and foster world growth. It includes the US, most European countries, Japan, Australia, and Canada, among other countries. Figure 4, with the caption “Periods of high energy expenditures are often associated with recession” is has been prepared by two economists working for OECD. The gray bars indicate recession.
Figure 4 shows that in 2021, prices for practically every cost segment associated with energy consumption tended to spike. Electricity, coal, and natural gas prices were all very high relative to prior years. The only segment of energy costs that was not very out of line relative to costs in prior years was oil. Coal and natural gas are both used to make electricity, so high electricity costs should not be surprising.
In Figure 4, the caption by the economists from OECD is pointing out what should be obvious to economists everywhere: High energy prices often push an economy into recession. Citizens are forced to cut back on non-essentials, reducing demand and pushing their economies into recession.
[8] The world seems to be up against extraction limits for coal. This, together with the high cost of shipping coal over long distances, is leading to very high prices for coal.
World coal production has been close to flat since 2011. Growth in electricity generation from coal has been almost as flat as world coal production. Indirectly, this lack of growth in coal production is forcing utilities around the world to move to other types of electricity generation.

[9] Natural gas is now also in short supply when growing demand of many types is considered.
While natural gas production has been growing, in recent years it hasn’t been growing quickly enough to keep up with the world’s rising demand for natural gas imports. World natural gas production in 2021 was only 1.7% higher than production in 2019.
Growth in the demand for natural gas imports comes from several directions, simultaneously:
- With coal supply flat and imports not sufficiently available, countries are seeking to substitute natural gas generation for coal generation of electricity. China is the world’s largest importer of natural gas partly for this reason.
- Countries with electricity from wind or solar find that electricity from natural gas can ramp up quickly and fill in when wind and solar aren’t available.
- There are several countries, including Indonesia, India and Pakistan, whose natural gas production is declining.
- Europe chose to end its pipeline imports of natural gas from Russia and now needs more LNG instead.
[10] Prices for natural gas are extremely variable, depending on whether the natural gas is locally produced, and depending on how it is shipped and the type of contract it is under. Generally, locally produced natural gas is the least expensive. Coal has somewhat similar issues, with locally produced coal being the least expensive.
This is a chart from a recent Japanese publication (IEEJ).

The low Henry Hub price at the bottom is the US price, available only locally. If supplies are high within the US, its price tends to be low. The next higher price is Japan’s price for imported liquefied natural gas (LNG), arranged under long-term contracts, over a period of years. The top price is the price that Europe is paying for LNG based on “spot market” prices. Spot market LNG is the only type of LNG available to those who did not plan ahead.
In recent years, Europe has been taking its chances on getting low spot market prices, but this approach can backfire badly when there is not enough to go around. Note that the high price of European imported LNG was already evident in January 2013, before the Ukraine invasion began.
A major issue is that shipping natural gas is extremely expensive, tending to at least double or triple the price to the user. Producers need to be guaranteed a high price for LNG over the long term to make all of the infrastructure needed to produce and ship natural gas as LNG profitable. The extremely variable prices for LNG have been a problem for natural gas producers.
The very high recent prices for LNG in Europe have made the price of natural gas too high for industrial users who need natural gas for processes other than making electricity, such as making nitrogen fertilizer. These high prices cause distress from the lack of inexpensive natural gas to spill over into the farming sector.
Most people are “energy blind,” especially when it comes to coal and natural gas. They assume that there is plenty of both fuels to be cheaply extracted, essentially forever. Unfortunately, for both coal and natural gas, the cost of shipping tends to be very high. This is something that modelers miss. It is the high delivered cost of natural gas and coal that makes it impossible for companies to actually extract the amounts of coal and natural gas that seem to be available based on reserve estimates.
[10] When we analyze electricity consumption in recent years, we discover that OECD and non-OECD countries have had amazingly different patterns of electricity consumption growth since 2001.
OECD electricity consumption has been close to flat, especially since 2008. Even before 2008, its electricity consumption was not growing rapidly.
The proposal now is to increase the use of electricity in OECD countries. Electricity will be used to a greater extent for fueling vehicles and heating homes. It will also to be used more for local manufacturing, especially for batteries and semiconductor chips. I wonder how OECD countries will be able to ramp up electricity production sufficiently to cover both current uses of electricity and planned new uses, if past electricity production has been essentially flat.

Figure 7 shows that coal’s share of electricity production has been falling for OECD countries, especially since 2008. “Other” has been rising, but only enough to keep overall production flat. Other is comprised of renewables, including wind and solar, plus electricity from oil and from burning of trash. The latter categories are small.
The pattern of recent energy production for non-OECD countries is very different:

Figure 8 shows that non-OECD countries have been rapidly ramping up electricity production from coal. Other major sources of fuel are natural gas and electricity produced by hydroelectric dams. All these energy sources are relatively non-complex. Electricity from locally produced coal, locally produced natural gas, and hydroelectric generation all tend to be quite inexpensive. With these inexpensive sources of electricity, non-OECD countries have been able to dominate the world’s heavy industry and much of its manufacturing.
In fact, if we look at the local production of fuels generally used to produce electricity (that is, all fuels except oil), we can see a pattern emerge.

With respect to extraction of fuels often associated with electricity, production has been closed to flat, even with “renewables” (wind, solar, geothermal, and wood chips) included. Coal production is down. The decline in coal production is likely a big part of the lack of growth in OECD’s electricity supply. Electricity from locally produced coal has historically been very inexpensive, bringing the average price of electricity down.
A very different pattern emerges when the production of fuels used to generate electricity for non-OECD countries is viewed. Note that the same scale has been used on both Figures 9 and 10. Thus, in 2001, the production of these fuels was about equal for OECD and non-OECD countries. Production of these fuels has about doubled since 2001 for non-OECD countries, while OECD production has remained close to flat.

Figure 10. Energy production of fuels often used for electricity production for non-OECD countries, based on data from BP’s 2022 Statistical Review of World Energy.
One item of interest on Figure 10 is coal production for non-OECD countries, shown in blue at the bottom. It has been barely increasing since 2011. This is part of what is now tightening world coal supplies. I am doubtful that spiking coal prices will add very much to long-term coal production because truly local supplies are becoming depleted, even in non-OECD countries. The spiking prices are much more likely to lead to recession, debt defaults, lower commodity prices, and lower coal supply.
[11] I am afraid that the world economy has hit complexity limits as well as energy production limits.
The world economy seems likely to collapse over a period of years. In the near term, the result may look like a bad recession, or it may look like war, or possibly both. So far, the economies using fuels that are not very complex for electricity (locally produced coal and natural gas, plus hydroelectric generation) seem to be doing better than others. But the overall world economy is stressed by inadequate cheap-to-produce local energy supplies.
In physics terms, the world economy, as well as all of the individual economies within it, are dissipative structures. As such, growth followed by collapse is a usual pattern. At the same time, new versions of dissipative structures can be expected to form, some of which may be better adapted to changing conditions. Thus, approaches for economic growth that seem impossible today may be possible over a longer timeframe.
For example, if climate change opens up access to more coal supplies in very cold areas, the Maximum Power Principle would suggest that some economy will eventually access such deposits. Thus, while we seem to be reaching an end now, over the long-term, self-organizing systems can be expected to find ways to utilize (“dissipate”) any energy supply that can be inexpensively accessed, considering both complexity and direct fuel use.

Would people have so willingly run to the Covid-19 vaccination centres if they had known they were taking part in a US Department of Defense (DoD) experiment? Would they have endured lockdowns if they realised that they were only brought in to make people suffer and therefore beg for a vaccine? No they wouldn’t but this is a highly likely explanation.
Most people will tell you about the wonders of capitalism and how private companies such as Pfizer and Moderna tore up the rule book, worked night and day and beat the odds to produce a miracle vaccine in a number or months. They will tell you about the Turkish German husband and wife team who risked it all developing BioNTech, the company which worked with Pfizer to develop a Covid vaccine. What few of them understand is how intertwined the Covid vaccines were with the US DoD.
The secretive Pentagon agency, the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) has been pumping money into novel vaccines for years. Fortunately for them, Covid came along and gave them the perfect opportunity to test what they had been working on. As the Washington Post says, “DARPA has quietly been seeding the ground for the United States to produce a rapid cure for a pathogen like covid-19 for years.
https://nakedemperor.substack.com/p/the-shadowy-line-between-the-dod
This article is very interesting. Thank you FE. I think that people of this blog might find it is worth reading it.
Notice how the anti vax leaders are generally ignoring this…
Is it because:
1. they are tasked with convincing the MOREONS that the Rat Juice is about a Great Reset — greater control — eating bugs — $$$$$ etc…
2. to acknowledge the DOD is behind this … is to fall into absolute despair …
Who knows.
I have sent this DOD stuff to an anti vaxxer who thinks it’s about $$$$… he does not acknowledge it…
He also does not acknowledge the study indicating Paxlovid is driving mutations.
They cannot acknowledge either and must fall back on some other reason … because to see the naked Emperor would likely cause mental illness.
It is what it is. There is no doubt.
Extermination. DOD is handling the UEP. There is likely and entire wing of the Pentagon filled with people dedicated to UEP. Might even be another entire facility somewhere staffed by the Extermination Team
This is fantastic stuff — I can’t wait till the real dying begins… the MOREONS will still not understand what’s happening and will continue to think whatever BBCCNN tell them to think…
But that’s ok… I know what’s happening … and I will be extremely pleased to watch it play out
This disgraceful species is going down … Titanic-esque
The vaxxman cometh, and wielding his CBDC club.
https://www.zerohedge.com/crypto/social-credit-brazilian-style-all-ubi-recipients-must-be-vaxxed
https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9be83ccd-2320-4e29-af51-0c6b93746c25_670x968.png?r=z6oe1&utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
Just in case… best to keep some cash on hand… for buy food when you are denied UBI if you lose your job
By Jove..they actually intentionally sank the Aircraft Carrier in the Ocean….out of sight ,out of mind….like Eddie wrote the most vile critters…
In March 2021, the Brazilian Navy sold the aircraft carrier as scrap to a shipyard in Turkey. But the ship was rejected by Turkish authorities as it had asbestos, a toxic material often found in 20th century ships.
After circling along Brazil’s coast for five months after it was rejected by Turkey, the warship was moved into international waters, Time reported.
On February 4, the Brazilian Navy sank the ship in the Atlantic Ocean about 217 miles off the coast of Brazil, per a press release from the Navy.
It was a controversial move: Several environmental rights organizations opposed the sinking of the ship because of the asbestos it contained.
“The sinking of the aircraft carrier Sao Paulo throws tons of asbestos, mercury, lead and other highly toxic substances into the seabed,” Greenpeace said in a statement, per Reuters.
https://www.businessinsider.com/warship-brazil-sank-sao-paolo-foch-aircraft-carrier-photos-2023-2?amp
Henrique Cardoso, who served as the president of Brazil from January 1995 to December 2002, said the São Paulo was purchased to “operate with efficiency in the high seas” and to strengthen its naval power to protect its 4,350-mile coastline.
The São Paulo was extensively refitted from 2005 to 2009. The warship was powered by six boilers and four steam turbines. Despite the refitting, the warship still contained asbestos and heavy metals.
Note, this behind a paywall but you can piece together what Chris Martenson is saying that there isn’t much time left to transition from Fossil Fuels to Green Energy.
“Green Delusions – Not Much Time Remains”
Peak Insiders
By Chris Martenson on
February 10, 2023
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I am increasingly alarmed. I’m almost at the stage where I light my hair on fire and run in circles in my desire to raise the alarm for people. In 2008 I said “the next twenty years are going to be completely unlike the last twenty years” That wasn’t a matter of being vague, it was a recognition that the process of “topping” takes time. I had hoped, naively, that society would wake up and begin to do the right things for the right reasons. That really didn’t happen. We have NO plan for how we’re going to transition from”
The crazy part is that those pulling the levers on society don’t think things thru. Lets take California for example because they like to brag about being the test bed for the US. California according to this stat sheet has as of 2022, a little over 1 million registered EV’s in the State. https://www.gov.ca.gov/2022/02/25/california-leads-the-nations-zev-market-surpassing-1-million-electric-vehicles-sold/
So if California has 1 million EV’s on the road, then why is it California warns EV owners NOT to charge their vehicles during peak load hours. WTF!
So you own an EV, you drive it to work, you need it to get back home but you are discouraged charging it during peak hours. That is a small % out of 36 million registered vehicles in California. https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/news-and-media/dmv-statistics/
This is an example of not thinking things thru, which is typical for politicians, since they rarely worked in the private sector. Now imagine the nightmare scenario of 36 million EV’s in California all needing access to electricity in a State that is basically bankrupt in a Nation that is beyond bankrupt. Who is going to foot the bill to overhaul the electric grid nationwide? Oh that’s right, we’re too busy sending hundreds of billions which will quickly turn into a trillion helping the Neo-Nazi’s in Ukraine kill more Ruskies.
Rodster,
We, well most of us, cannot change the world; it is what it is and we live in it.
Perhaps a less stressful and more productive approach might be to see what can be done in your own, personal space and life. Those changes are not easy and really do require years to accomplish if only on a small scale.
Not a sarcastic question: if you knew things would change from 2008-2028, what did you personally do to adapt in your own life?
Attempting to change the world, make a difference seem incredibly difficult and can apparently lead to considerable anger directed in no particular direction and with little effect.
Dennis L.
Gavrilo Princip did. He changed the world in a very negative way so his shitty country could unite all of the peoples under the thuggish gangster of a King, a gain which was lost within a century. I think for this Belgrade should have gotten a hydrogen bomb on 1999, incinerating all people there.
It seems the only way an individual can change the world is to a negative way.
My POV is that Green Energy cannot replace what fossil fuels powers today. Everything that has been built as part of industrial civilization was made possible by FF’s. Green energy is a feel good story that will just depopulate the planet.
California is a prime example as to why GE doesn’t work.
Rod,
Locally used, self built, solar sort of works in that it is after tax money. The cost of solar is not the cells, it is the land(roof), the supporting structure and the electrical connections to either grid or on site usage.
It is not a way to get rich, impossible to replace utility and grid, but as an investment with current capital, it has advantages. Hard to know what invested capital will yield tomorrow, currently according to TM, about 1-3% at best as I recall.
Good luck,
Dennis L.
The problem is the “Greenies” think that they can support and power industrial civilization without fossil fuels. That is the crux of the matter.
agreed.
Dennis, there is no such thing as “self-built” solar…unless you mean planting trees or a garden.
The subsidies that are offered in our area are false, advertising tax “credits” of which only those with higher incomes can actually avail themselves. I had to pay the full cost of shares in a local solar co-op, while richer people than I got to deduct 30%.
Mike Adams commentary on Nordstream. Even though I strongly suspected it was the USA that destroyed Nordstream its still shocking.
Both Biden and Nuland said Nordstream would be destroyed. Can people just put that in the memory hole now that additional definitive evidence is presented? Just erase the statements of intent by Biden and Nuland because they now claim the USA destroying nordstream is fiction? Is this orwellian or is it tolerable because its a act of destruction against a race we have been trained to endorse violence against? Every hollywood movie. It IS glorious to kill slavs. It WAS glorius to kill gooks. It WAS glorius to kill ragheads. Now it is considered intolerable to hate gooks and ragheads. It was those terrible previous administrations that condoned such things! Hatred was essential to what Orwell observed so fact editing and hatred are not mutually exclusive. Au contraire.
The autonomous organisms will shine the spotlight of hate on anything that threatens maximum power principle. In a modern world things change quickly so how the spotlight moves is more apparent. In a time of resource depletion it shines domestically also.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Ebbiev1Dtq6w/
Mark Adams gives an over-the-top discussion about how the US is willing to hurt Europe, in order to hurt Russia. Ukraine will likely not exist after this conflict. Western Europe is headed for de-industrialization. This is all because of greedy US State Department employees, according to Adams. Will make Western Europe hate the US; not want to buy its imports.
Russia would like to start a new system. Western Europe would be better off partnering with Russia than with America. Russia wants to sell commodities. US is acting as a terrorist by taking down this pipeline. Blowing up civilian targets. Thinks this will all escalate to global nuclear outcome. Russia sees that its only option is war–nuclear war.
The US has a culture of weakness. Russians are some of the toughest and strongest in the world. They are used to living in hardship. US is used to everything being available. There is still some toughness in America.
Mainstream Media will never mention the fact that the US blew up the pipeline. Zelensky is a Nazi. If American leaders are willing to kill millions of Europeans, they are willing to also killing Americans. This is already happening through the COVID vaccines.
The story of Gail writings she tries to give HOPE to her readers after laying out her premise of Collapse of BAU…
Julian Sands mystery: Searchers still holding out hope actor survived amid ‘extreme’ conditions
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/julian-sands-mystery-searchers-holding-out-hope-actor-survived-amid-extreme-conditions.amp
Sands has been missing for nearly one month after not returning from a Jan. 13 hike on Mt. Baldy in Southern California
It’s still considered a search and rescue mission. We don’t have any kind of set date for that, but it’s definitely something that we’re keeping in mind.”
We are still conducting searches as weather and conditions allow,” Rodriguez said. “Right now, those are still just by air because of the icy conditions and such on the mountain. But unfortunately, nothing new has developed.”
Rodriguez said it was not “typical” to locate a missing hiker after a significant time-lapse, but crews are still maintaining hope.
“It’s happened before, but it’s not typical. Usually we’re able to locate people within a fairly short amount of time, but it has happened in the past,” she said of teams finding distressed hikers following long-term disappearances.
Lots of folks will be the same once BAU comes to an end..hoping for a discovery to make it like the Good Old Days of Eazy Peazy..
Hope I’m pushing up daisies when that occurs! But for Nuttie Eddie and Company, it will be a hellava show..
We haven’t still found Andrew Irvine, the guy who scaled Everest for the first time with George Mallory, 100 years later.
Irvine had a camera, but it is likely that it will be destroyed or its content ‘unable to be deciphered ‘ since it will reduce Tenzing Norgay, the sherpa who is ‘officially’ the first to climb everest, and rob the only important thing the Nepalese ever did in the history of world.
“the only important thing the Nepalese ever did in the history of world.”
Not true. A Gurkha saved Joanna Lumley’s father’s life, don’t you know.
Kulm,
how can you be so f. stupid?
What’s a language got to do with human achievements? Why separate people by the language or some random line on a map?
https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/brent-crude-jumps-russia-cut-5-oil-output
Oil Jumps After Russia Says It Will Cut 500,000 Barrels Of Oil Output
WTI seems to be at 79.40; Brent about $85.79, depending on buying arrangement.
The WSJ seems to have a similar article as its lead story online.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/russia-to-cut-oil-production-sending-prices-higher-5697a8e8
WSJ articles aren’t available to non-subscribers — but, what a reality, as 8 billion people collide with depleting resources.
Art Berman (geologist and oil analyst) has a post here saying Permian shale will last for decades. https://twitter.com/aeberman12/status/1623691343242428419
15 billion barrels = 750 days US consumption = ~2 years. And that is a small piece of US output right now. https://twitter.com/aeberman12/status/1623847030064922624
I say we’re being too gloomy and shale will last us another decade or two. That’s more than enough time to either figure out fusion or as a fallback plan cull the herd. Either way, we have energy to last until we die of old age. Party on BAU!
Art assumes the economic system will stay together and that prices will rise sufficiently that the oil can be extracted. He indirectly assumes that imports from China will remain available, to make computers and other necessary peripherals. I wouldn’t count on what Art says to be true. He is a “Peak Oiler.” He believes that if we can see the oil, and we have the technology, we can get it out. Maybe, and maybe not. Perhaps there will be near-term collapse, and some future economy will get the benefit of left behind fossil fuels and minerals.
All we need is a bunch of UFO’s topping up Ghawar again and we can make another spin in the wheel of folly.
8B Hypers!
6B vaxxed Hyper Dupeds!
‘Nuff said!
“Hope is for suckers.”
— Alan Watts
They just shot one of those down over Alaska, no doubt resupplying the North Slope.
Interesting comment. More background if you’re being serious please.
Here’s just one account:
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/3852988-us-shoots-down-another-high-altitude-object-over-alaskan-airspace/
I was joking about it being an oil supply.
The problem is that there is no blood / oil for everyone, for the moment we have lost limbs but since blood does not reach the brain we are all going down
(Giornale di Sicilia + Ansa)
Judiciary investigation. Drug addicts in exchange of drug jabbed various time with mRNA Covid-19 ‘vaccine’ in order to allow other people to obtain green pass (Covid passport).
https://catania.gds.it/articoli/cronaca/2023/02/10/vaccini-in-cambio-di-dosi-di-droga-per-ottenere-falsi-green-pass-arresti-in-corso-a-catania-2eeab4cc-426f-4523-89b3-2c5bd28aa2e5/
https://www.ansa.it/sito/notizie/topnews/2023/02/10/vaccini-in-cambio-dosi-droga-per-green-pass-a-no-vaxarresti_6c8eae4e-f559-4c1a-8e4c-a5e9f07a8f15.html
A picture that gives a rough idea of the tragedy of the earthquake and the loneliness of those people.
I think we should divert some money for artillery and jets to Zelensky and give some help to them.
https://english.almayadeen.net/news/miscellaneous/photo-of-turkish-man-holding-dead-daughters-hand-depicts-tra
Enough of the bleeding heart propaganda, Student.
Anyway, Turkey is exceedingly corrupt. Any money going there would be stolen and misused by the usual suspects.
In fact the proposal that the Hegemon (or perhaps Former Hegemon) should send printed dollars to Turkey (!), or Syria (!!) instead of Ukraine is so outlandish that it left me speechless. We should try to be reality based.
Student has fallen into the delusion of thinking that we are giving actual money to Ukraine.
We are giving it old equipment that we don’t want that we claim is worth billions of dollars. Plus IMF loans and the like.
So there’s no dollars to divert because none are being spent.
I think some of the equipment is newly made, but of old design. The US can ramp up production at Lockheed (not too far from where I live) and other suppliers, providing jobs.
The weapons such as artillery guns, ground to air missiles, 155mm shells, Stinger, Javelin, TOW, Harpoon and HARM missiles are all decades old.
All weapons supplied by the UK are decades old.
Some of the drones seem to be of more recent manufacture but that’s all.
I don’t think Lockheed is able to ramp up production much due to supply chain issues.
Whether it is bombs or nail polish, other than scale is there an economic difference?
Dennis L.
But but, an IMF loan would do the trick, don’t you think? Of course, Erdogan would need to approve Sweden and Finland as full Nato members.
All junk is being sent to Ukraine .
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2023-02-01/belgian-arms-trader-tangles-with-minister-over-tanks-for-ukraine
The old Leopard I tanks contain asbestos so it makes sense to send them to Ukraine. Saves on expensive asbestos disposal.
I find your reference to a bleeding heart in regard to this matter sickening. It refers to people not willing to pull there own weight. The tragedy and suffering in Turkiye was not caused by the actions of the people. I agree with student 100%. Suffering is real. All these resources being consumed for war could be used to end suffering. They could be used to rebuild Ukraine. Aid for Turkey.
If you can help-genuinly help- and you dont I feel sorry for you. You live in a desolate world. You do not understand providence. Unfortunately you are not alone.
Is this the status quo now? Tolerating perhaps even enjoying suffering? We are unable to discern in between those not willing to pull their own weight and misfortune?
Why are resources used for war not to end suffering? Many governments no longer serve the people even peripherally. They are autonomous organisms operating off the maximum power principle. The resources are distributed according to maximum power principle. In times of resource abundance some resources could be distributed to the people. Now there is resource depletion so the truth of resource distribution priority is revealed.
Yanukovych’s sin. Not putting a autonomous organism operating principle first. Turkey’s sin?
The worst sin is not joining a gang. Gangs despise non gang members far more than the other gang members.
Same as it ever was? China would not be a good overlord. The only solution is sovereign nations sweating it out as equals in a system where rules are valued. No teaming. Anti thesis to a “survivor” episode. It can only come from the understanding that sovereign representations of the people are destroyed by teaming. No matter how the chips fall teaming destroys all. Exactly like Survivor where the best hearted, the most productive, were taken out by worms. Exactly like the red clown team blue clown team war where issues are ignored for the gang. Absolute power does corrupt. Speaking of free lunch…
What is sickening is the Western MSM running the Turkish story (a sad event, certainly, but something the Turks can handle well) while ignoring mass murder and poisoning on their doorstep, and war-mongering like crazy over Ukraine (suddenly switched on, headline news, I notice, after months of silence on the war).
Thank you banned for your thoughts
But imperial powers have always acted in a certain way. I hope student felt the same when the USA was bombing Aleppo in 2011-2015, even if it was not in the news.
Obviously. In my view these are considerations just to argue with people drb753. Not useful to consider things in general. I think there is no need to further explain that I feel sorrow for that suffering being hidden in favor of spending money to give to Zelensky who could stop the war in a second, while those people received a terrible hit by the fate. Any further consideration it is waste of time in my view.
Of course you can prefer to give money to Zelensky, everyone is free to think what wants.
I wish all the best.
The Ukrainians are now in the same situation as the Italians in 1915. Butchering a generation of males to fight a war, organized by distant elites for goals totally different from what the common soldier had in mind, that can not benefit their nation. It has happened hundreds of times in human history. The stupid die earlier, and that is all there is to it.
The same is happening, economically, in Italy now. Save your compassion for someone geographically closer to you. Eventually you will see that they too need some compassion.
He still thinks he lives in Victorian London, the heart of British Empire.
Why are resources used for war not to end suffering?
For example the USA adopts ‘Imagine’ as the new national anthem… cuts the DOD budget to 0… scuttles it’s navy… torches it’s air force … and disbands the army…
All money saved to go to … poor countries to alleviate ‘suffering’
Discuss what would happen.
Hint… China and Russia would jump up and down like a child delighted by the shiny new bike under the Christmas tree…. and the US would be renamed New Somalia…
@banned, those dead Turks don’t need money. We should ask the president of the country that is a Turkey to empty their bank accounts and send the money to the English homeless, as reparations for Gallipoli.
Sickening? Islamists in, money out. What’s your problem?
Best regards, western Eiropean working class.
That father is in Syria.
Total death toll for the earthquake of the two Countries is over 20.000 people…
Bleeding heart propaganda in my view is another thing.
It is more Zelensky’s crying that he want tanks and jets.
That man could simply accept that famous territories to be Russia and everything would be over.
Especially Crimea which is non sense to think that can be Ukraine again.
On the contrary. 20.000 people and equivalent (or more) wounded in the cold weather for an earthquake, needs another approach in my view.
But everyone is free to think what one wants.
What’s the proverb?
‘Trust a Jew, before a Turk, before an Armenian’?
Turkish elites aren’t poor, they can pay.
Let these people step up
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Turkish_people_by_net_worth
Send Zelensky in his dreadful, phoney, ‘common man at war’ clothes with a helmet bearing a lamp to rescue people from the rubble.
He’s tiny, and could wriggle in quite easily.
Maybe a photogenic sniffer dog to add cuteness?
Then 40 yr-old UK jets could do a victory roll in the skies above……
Student,
The universe is rearranging the earth for reasons unknown to us, in earlier times it would be called “God’s will.” As individuals this can be extremely painful, but we are where we are and within limits we accept those facts. Some of us endure, some do not. No sarcasm here, we have little choice in the matter.
As for why more help is not on the way, maybe the world has too much on its plate, is sequential and deals with one problem at a time. I don’t know, a guess may be help is discretionary and per TM, discretionary funds are getting few and fa between.
Dennis L.
Not in a way you wish for, I have to say.
All these ‘chances’ occurred in the direction opposite of advancing civilization and helping the peoples who didn’t, and won’t be able to , contribute anything to civilization.
I agree, more times than I care to count the world has not gone my way, always a pleasant surprise when I get lucky and it happens.
Dennis L.
Serves them right … M Nature is standing up for these poor fellas
https://t.me/leaklive/11666
https://cubeoftruth.com/av
I agree with you Student. I want aid to Syria and Turkey and do not want aid to Ukraine murder. Sadly the ruling class here does not agree with me.
Thank you Ed, that was the only point of my discussion which is about the great amount of taxpayers’ money (our money) which is spent towards one direction.
And to complete the consideration, I will give some money to US people if a similar earthquake would hit them and not because in US there is Bill Gates or Elon Musk US people would not need help.
According to some reasoning here a Japanese person should not help an american in difficulty because Japan was hit by US atomic bombs.
So, according to that reasoning one should still be angry with Gengis Kan and so on. Come on. Having said that everyone is free to keep money for oneself, without explaining why, but without adding fake excuses. Now I would say let’s talk of something else.
In the meantime… don’t be afraid, we are working for you…
”WHO’s Tedros says we “must prepare” for a potential H5N1 human bird flu pandemic”
https://www.eventiavversinews.it/il-direttore-generale-delloms-tedros-dobbiamo-prepararci-a-una-potenziale-pandemia-di-influenza-aviaria-umana-h5n1-video/
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1623627525590073345
We live in a world of narratives!
“False narratives”
That is a better description.
“Accountability for the mRNA “vaccine” Murders Has Begun”
Excerpt: “ The Swiss President and the Minister of Health are under investigation, indictment, and prosecution by the Swiss Attorney General for Covid Crimes involving lying about the vaccine effectiveness and safety.
Thailand is convening war crime tribunals to nullify Pfizer Contracts.”
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2023/02/09/accountability-for-the-mrna-vaccine-murders-has-begun/
I cannot tell if anything is real or fake anymore
Intuition is the only guide, I think, CTG.
Nothing much else can be trusted – and the MSM and govts never – and even that is fallible of course.
This can lead to insanity. Stay strong.
Since there is no way to know what is real I just assume it’s all fake now — I find that helps maintain my equilibrium.
Recall how when war beckons… CNNBBC have been outed in the past inviting experts who are nothing more than paid spokesmen for war … to provide ‘unbiased opinions’ that always support the war.
Similarly we are seeing that with the Rat Juice.
Assume all experts appearing on CNNBBC are paid actors placed by the PR Teams. Cuz they are
If one wants to stay update about Switzerland can read these 3 websites.
Switzerland is very close where we live.
I think that a news like ‘Minister of Health under investigation’ would be something present on the pages.. At the moment nothing can be found about it, neither in recent history.
Maybe that person knows something more, but I think that it should come out in the next days, otherwise…
https://www.tio.ch
https://www.rsi.ch
https://www.rts.ch
Crispin Miller published something similar re Thailand… a search of CNNBBBC brought up zero coverage…
If the Thai govt was going after Fizzer… then the BK Post would surely publish this
Any CNNBBC source for the Swiss situation
“Accountability for the mRNA “vaccine” Murders Has Begun”
I will believe it when I see it. Too many people in high places against it, for this to happen.
From the link: “the mRNA deadly envelop is now the basis of flu shots and vaccination of all animals.”
Does this mean that we need to avoid flu shots (fairly easy) and all become vegans (not so easy)?
Gail, here are the facts about Switzerland:
“A criminal complaint for abuse of authority has been filed against the future president of the Confederation Alain Berset. Pascal Najadi, banker” (source https://www.20min.ch/fr/story/certificat-covid-plainte-deposee-contre-alain-berset-389623610335).
But the Rabbit Hole goes deeper if you consider who Najadi is.
Pascal Najadi is the son of Hussain Najadi who was murdered in Malaysia, and also a Davos man : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hussain_Najadi
The official version is that Najadi (father) was an honest banker killed because he wanted to denounce corruption in Malaysia.
I doubt it.
Try those links to understand what happened there.
https://www.francetvinfo.fr/monde/usa/malaisie-1mdb-le-scandale-politico-financier-aux-ramifications-mondiales_3063601.html
https://www.letemps.ch/suisse/affaire-1mdb-un-arrangement-se-profile-entre-justice-suisse-petrosaudi
https://www.theedgemarkets.com/node/651387
So why would Najadi (son) be now interested in suing Berset about the covid crisis? That does not make any sense. The case is totally fabricated and I am afraid that people who spread this information are not trustworthy to say the least.
Very interesting things about Switzerland, but not related at all with the first post of this thread about mRNA.
In my view it is very difficult that something could start from Switzerland, the land of Davos and the land of the headquarters of many pharmaceutical companies.
In the western Countries in my view, it is only US that could start something real and effective.
But it would be something disruptive and about a big political change.
Even if, I must say that the first link is very interesting about the fake and not effective ‘Covid passport’ and it could be used also in other Countries all over Europe.
Thank you Thierry!
You are welcome Student! Indeed the Malaysian case in not related (on the surface) to the jabs. This is precisely why I wonder why the same man, Najadi, who is so well connected (Davos, Morgan, Goldman Sachs, Deutsch Bank, Blair and the oil industry and even Russia) is involved at the same time in a legal action against the swiss President? If someone sees any logic in this please let me know ! I have my own theory but this is only speculation at this point.
I don’t see the DOD allowing this ..
Why would they care anymore? 6B injections. Job done.
Next.
AI.
They are still insisting on the jabs in my area. I just read that an upcoming local concert by a Canadian Celtic violinist was cancelled due to enduring US cross-border injection restrictions.
My husband was supposed to play in a folk-music festival (NEFFA) in Massachusetts in April. He has been dis-invited from playing because not jabbed.
The House of Representatives (Republican controlled) has passed a bill to stop requiring COVID vaccinations of non-citizens entering the countries. But the Senate (controlled by Democrats) has not. With a President who is also a Democrat, it is hard to see much action on this quickly.
Global Warm-ups hitting the banks now?
‘The bottom line for the Zurich-based melting ice cube: things are terrible and getting worse.’
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/credit-suisse-craters-after-staggering-bank-run-and-warning-continued-losses
“they” will keep CS going if it’s necessary to avoid contagion.
Swiss National Bank, ECB, the Fed, whoever, it might be in their interests to save CS.
or not, and then it goes poof.
as has been said, the easiest business to save is a bank, since all that’s needed is to create digital money by pressing a few keys.
Right…think the CBs learned that with the Lehman Bros collapse and they were caught with their pants down..
Don’t think they’ll make the same mistake twice…
Yes, a couple of clicks on the mouse and problem averted to another day until…..
However, a systematic failure of the financial industry is not likely to repeat. The surge in counterparty risks that highlighted the 2008 crisis cannot happen again due to the strict regulations and high capital requirements that banks need to comply with.Jun 13, 2022
……The Fed has much more room to maneuver now since they can do quantitative easing (QE). When things deteriorated to that extent in 2008, such innovative methods of pumping liquidity into the financial markets were not yet invented.
https://m.investing.com/analysis/3-reasons-why-worries-about-2008-repeating-are-unfounded-200625693#:~:text=However%2C%20a%20systematic%20failure%20of,banks%20need%20to%20comply%20with.
MMT…works till it doesn’t
Excerpt:
Lilly Kimbell, a college tennis star and a 2014 graduate of the University of Georgia, died of a massive heart attack at 31, shocking friends and family who knew her as a vibrant, loving 31-year-old woman.
According to Lilly’s family, the former tennis star collapsed at home and was rushed to the hospital while being given CPR. Once at the hospital, doctors determined she had a massive heart attack spurred by a kidney problem. Sadly, the lack of oxygen to her brain left her unable to regain consciousness. The family ultimately decided to remove her from life support, and she passed on Sunday, according to the Clayton News-Daily.
https://www.breitbart.com/sports/2023/02/09/ex-college-tennis-star-lilly-kimbell-dies-from-massive-heart-attack-at-31/
Haha a kidney problem … nothing to do with the vax … MOREONS believe anything
It’s never the Vax. It’s too safe and effective to do something like that. This is all just normal seeing under 30 something pushing up daisies.
To be fair, in the UK 20% don’t make it to age 65 (and draw an old age pension).
No doubt someone looking at the statistics can find what proportion don’t even reach 30 to see how abnormal this is.
I felt ultra-healthy at 30 … still not bad at 68, thanks to healthy food & exercise. I expected to live at least to my 90s until this s*** kicked off.
There’ll be no food for 90 year olds in a few decades. Hopefully they’ll save us some fentanyl.
Haha, that is freaking awesome news. We need to have several NFL players collapse on the field during the Super Bowl.
How cool would it be if one of them died on the field and the game was cancelled!!!
My ideal one dies and the games continues. Then another dies and the game continues.
Commercial break – then return to the game as if nothing happened.
Would anyone notice the emperor is naked?
Very difficult to work out what the PR Team is up to …
https://hiddencomplexity.substack.com/p/who-states-avian-flu-not-a-problem
Eddy, Lastcall, any news from NZ?
No idea what’s happening here… I am two days away from risking the life of Fast Eddy on another series of flights with vaxxed pilots
He is very stressed out and asking me to find out if Air NZ will allow a parachute and oxygen tank into carry on
There are two pilots the chance of both going down is slim.
there’s wifi on the long hauls so FE says he can use YT DIY landing vid to get the plane down safely if need be
Sure thing! I don’t think that do it yourself landing videos will work well enough for the purpose.
I used to play hockey with some Cathay Pacific pilots — asked them what they thought would happen if they had to guide me and land a 747…. they said the likely outcome would be I’d overshoot the runaway….
Fast Eddy is much more talented than me so we should not underestimate HIM
A couple of current events;
In preparation for the end times two local gangs have organised a ‘stab for stab’.
‘Hamilton parents are being warned to keep their children home on Friday afternoon because a violent street fight is planned. The brawl, called ‘battle of the hoods’, is being organised online and “weapons are aloud” (sic), the poster for it said.
The poster, encouraging participants to go “stab for stab”, is causing alarm.’
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/don-t-want-any-kids-hurt-community-centres-warn-parents-to-keep-children-home-during-planned-violent-street-fight/ar-AA17gXtP?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=e98eda0dee854ddf9a01d783b984d383
And our summer of water continues; ‘Prime Minister Chris Hipkins says the Government is monitoring the weather amid warnings of a storm that one forecaster is predicting could be among the “most serious” of the century.’
‘It follows the catastrophic floods which submerged parts of Auckland and other North Island areas nearly two weeks ago. That weather event also caused significant slips across the super-city, blocking off roads and at one point leading to the closure of schools.’
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/hipkins-message-to-kiwis-as-forecasters-warn-of-potentially-most-serious-storm-to-impact-nz-this-century/ar-AA17gB5S?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=1ad4f628fb964004b71cff323666ccac
I am meant to be on holiday up there next week; could be exciting!
I am thinking the Gubbermint could advertise the booster shots as effective against knives and forks, and offer a KFC voucher for each Injection taken.
Stab for KFC at the drive through?
…..while we still have them chickens available
Thanks
My Sunday flight is looking unlikely…
Stab for a stab — I highly recommend bringing a baseball bat to the party… I’d go toe to toe with a knife wielder if I had a bat… hit a home run with the f789ers head.
For the life of me I don’t know why hand guns are banned in NZ … if some showed up at the battle with guns the guys with the knives would go home
Give me your address and i’ll ship you a Louisville Slugger, signed by Aaron Judge. Do you want a NY Yankees cap with that?
The perfect Christmas gift
They still make shillelaghs one can order with a weighted head:
https://oldeshillelagh.com/
Sad new zealand is about to be hit by Cyclone Gabrielle. Bad karma manifests in different ways. For the ultra-violent corrupt infantile new zealand it seems to be storms, earthquakes, volcanic explosions and mass murder.
A country cannot outrun its karma. There is a darkness most foul in the souls of the primative people of that bad land.
Who knows what horrors await? All that can be said is that they will be gruesome and many.
Do not weep for that abhorrent place. May it be visited by continual and pure evil.
This is punishment for electing a DJ …
This may prevent me from getting to TruDUNCE-Land as scheduled…
Approval for use from 6 months in NZ has recently been granted I believe.
More Bad Schad could be coming to NZ in a town near you.
Buy a small excavator now.
Had to drive into QT twice this week… both times came screaming up behind me… as usual I slowed down and blocked their way…
I betcha those are vax injured 🙂
“alternative rock” clearly it was the drugs
Yesterday, when listening to radio, I have heard about a Czech website umirani.cz (“umirani” = “dying” in English).
There is an increasing number of funerals without ceremonies. But the death of others is not that easy thing, it requires e.g. mourning:
https://www.umirani.cz/rady-a-informace/truchleni
The language of our world has changed:
Before, the old people were called “elderly”. Today, they are called “seniors”, like “juniors” in sports: you have to be active. Not an old man or woman who is resting after the life full of work. That creates a false perspective. In reality, we are not heading towards healthier bodies, but towards the death of our bodies.
The ressurection of the bodies is the greatest idea of all times, given the desperate reality of the human weakness and dependency on the environment we all know.
Getting a new body is even better. I believe that is part of the belief.
So lets see; as a 20 yr old, would you trade in any remaining years after 60 to have your body not age beyond say 30ish?
So you remain youngish until 60 then BOOM, you are gone!
I imagine may 20yrs olds’ would take the trade; 60 seems like forever away.
Wisdom of the ages be d@mm*d; forever young!
I’d definitely opt to be Dorian Gray
Gail,
If one has children, half of one’s information does get a new body. Something is better than nothing and if one gets lucky with a good mate, things get better not worse.
No children, one is no longer part of the biological universe in a direct manner, one is again basic elements; long way from basic elements to biology.
We are an experiment of the universe, the universe is persistent.
Dennis L.
I think in the end, we are dust, and billions of years from now, our atoms will be scattered like star dust throughout the cosmos, just like those hippies have been saying all along.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-i3w576gr9o
And my comments as H Zilla below still stand. Poem by Rupert Brooke, song composed by Danny Kirwan.
Or alternatively, Pete Townshend says it best at the end of the song. “Nothing is everything. Everything is nothing.”
Which also means time is nothing. When my time is up, I’ll be just as as dead as the prehistoric hominids, gophers, and fish,… and Alexander the Great and Julius Caesar.
The dust is everywhere, but the human bodies not.
The dust is death, but the human body is life.
the Horror… the Horror?
Maybe not … it’s normal – this usually happens to newborns… get over it?
An unimaginable loss. Sarah Herron and fiancé Dylan Brown revealed that their newborn son, Oliver, died just hours after the Bachelor Nation star gave birth. “On January 28th, at 24 weeks old, our beautiful son Oliver Brown was born. He passed away in his dad’s arms shortly after,” Herron, 36, wrote via Instagram on Wednesday, Febraury 1, while honoring the late infant. “There are no words for the magnitude of loss and pain we’re experiencing. It’s beautiful and simultaneously tragic. He had my nose and his dad’s mouth and long fingers.”
No cause of death reported.
https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/p/in-memory-of-those-who-died-suddenly-de9
If God/Almighty/Providence/whatever you feel like calling it chose USA to do its work and advance civilization, it is probably watching the experiment has failed miserably.
A bunch of Asians, with no , zero, nada stake on civilization, will NOT advance civilization. They would be working for cushy jobs back home,
USA got the world’s talents, and drove them to subjects like finance, law, plastic surgery, etc and away from civilization building.
Dennis’ mythical techies appear to exist only in his imaginations as Elon Musk is more interested in his pet activities than contributing anything to civilization.
Basically USA became a ‘melting pot’ for the Western World’s talents, but instead of producing high grade metals, it was mixed with a bunch of base metals and produced a useless alloy.
Wow, we agree on something kulm!
The collapse is now a full Seneca cliff event. The lawyers won’t notice until they start getting eaten.
Imagine the “soul strainer” that Judges, Lawyers, and Cops must go through?
Hope it’s a real spiritual meat grinder,….. very finely minced barrister….
Seems appropriate somehow
nada stake on INDUSTRIAL civilization, you failed to mention, since afaik China and India are the oldest civilizations still in business.
Lao Zi, Sun Tzu, Mahabarata, ring a bell, no?
If Buddhism and Hinduism and chess and the concept of zero and Sanskrit or Chinese poetry etc etc doesn’t mean civilization, I wonder what you mean by civilization. Zience?
Chinese civilization ended in 1842, courtesy of English warships
Indian civilization ended in circa 1860, courtesy of English rifles
Questions?
With such a broad definition of ending, we could also argue that European civilization ended in circa 1950, with the spread of mind-numbing mass culture.
What’s there to love about our technology-overpowered civilization, when what it produces now is mostly garbage, ugliness and stupidity?
In fact your beloved western civilization is living mainly off the prestige accumulated up to WWII. In all domains of knowledge, from art to science, what I see today is corruption, stagnation and epigonism. In short, a deep and irreversible decadence. F*ck it all i say.
The argument doesn’t rest on knocking India and China. They deserve respect as civilizational nations, but that’s besides the point. I don’t often agree with kulm, but …
The USA was miles ahead of everyone in the 1950-1960’s and just gave up the ghost. We wasted decades. The USA could have gone so much further down the innovation path and had a better shot at developing the technologies to save us from the low-energy future that is now likely.
Instead of prudence, we had a multi-decade orgy and as a country lived off the proceeds of moving the national wealth (technology, manufacturing, and innovation capabilities) to Asia. We stagnated.
Sure, now China is developed, but it’s probably too late to matter.
The US imported much after the end of WW II from all parts of the globe in regards to know how and innovation…namely from Germany in operation paperclip…why stay in devasted Europe when one can latch onto the real Winner of WWII
ivan,
The US moved waste from production to China, pollution, heavy metals. The US has the rare earths, the problem is the refining, it is a mess.
Dennis Whyte thinks fusion may be solved.
The biggest problem may well be the denigration of motherhood; raising children is a heck of a project, it is costly, it is frustrating. The US has gone from a nation of citizens who must be raised to one of consumers who must be satisfied. What we purchase defines us.
We lost our religion with consumerism, we lost our guidance; that stuff seems to work throughout time.
One can find much wrong with the US, there is also much right both materially and humane.
Dennis L.
The US has the rare earths
No it doesn’t, that’s a lie the US tells.
It has some but not the most important ones.
> The US moved waste from production to China, pollution, heavy metals. The US has the rare earths, the problem is the refining, it is a mess.
You seem to have missed the point.
The ability to innovate rests on having an ecosystem in which to operate: expertise, manufacturing facilities, companies, and materials. Just because there is a downside (pollution) doesn’t negate that.
The idea that ceaseless innovation is in itself an absolute good is a naive view dating from the 17th century; and even then it was obviously flawed if not completely puerile.
At it’s heart has always lain greed and the desire for power, nothing more exalted.
We’ve got to this ghastly point, with a blasted and poisoned planet, hideous cities. and degraded human beings, etc. by innovating – without wisdom.
Once the Tech genie was out of the bottle, it was really all inevitable.
There were no alternative time lines to choose. Where we are now is simply the natural growth of seeds planted some 400 years ago, not a mistaken turning in 1950 or 1970.
Intelligence has been a disaster for humans
Xabier, I’m glad our ancestors climbed down from the trees or the Annunaki upgraded us or whatever our origin is. I would also rather be myself than a bacterium, but clearly I can only speak for myself.
Dennis Whyte
Hitachi Professor at MIT.
Read: Hitachi’s salesman
Enough said
> USA got the world’s talents, and drove them to subjects like finance, law, plastic surgery, etc and away from civilization building.
Yes and by the way, you are sounding saner lately in at least some of your writing. Less “the aristocrats will win” and more “civilization is falling off a cliff while everyone exclaims ‘so far so good’ because we’re midair and haven’t hit the ground yet”.
The WW3 trend. Older aircraft that can carry weight but can not survive in a modern air defense environment launching cruise missiles.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/5qjvnIrmusoe/
Brian Berletic at New Atlas you tube site, made a very astute analysis why it is a waste of money to produce high tech aircraft from which to launch missiles, and that Russia understands the faulty logic in doing this via conventional bombers with no stealth protection or sophisticated engines.
The new high tech aircraft, despite their stealth, can still be shot down by these new sophisticated anti aircraft measures. Therefore these fighters and bombers are having to “stand off” when they launch their payloads anyway , so it makes more sense cost wise to simply use these cargo planes t.o carry the missiles and release them outside the air defense zone. They won’t be going into a kill zone anyway. This is why Israeli high tech jets “stand off” when they deliver their missiles so as to remain out of range of the Russian made air defense systems.
Now we have the White House response to the Seymour Hersh post.
“is utterly false and complete fiction.”
As the saying goes: Well, they would say that, wouldn’t they?
It’s all fun and games until we really start to see the effects of this next winter.
Global warming to the rescue.
In the UK, ‘Mandy Rice-Davies applies’ (MRDA).
Famous reply from the Profumo trial, ~60 years ago.
Completely standard response expected by everyone
Nothing new
A desperate attempt to assert control and manipulate. Ineffective? From one perpective yes. From another the desperation and recklessness demonstrates a terrible willingness to destroy the beauty of the world. Terrorism plain and simple with the hope that the abandonment of covertness will increase effectiveness. Desperate organisms are dangerous. In liu of strategic capability technical capability was demonstrated. This results in in accenting the lack of strategic capability but desperation is communicated also. True desperation is dangerous. As such it is a tool of manipulators Ear biting next or BS game? Time will tell.
I am waiting patiently with popcorn just in case the Russians make public a video showing Dick Cheney pushing the plungers that brought down the World Trade Center towers.
Now would be as good a time as any to release that one.
It would be eminently amusing to see Putin pull a Hugo Chavez, but I suppose the Russian president is too cunning and calculating to fall into that, shall we say, Hitlerian trap.After all, one thing every leader needs to understand is that his real enemies are his people, not his foreign counterparts. Little Adolf’s kampf served as a lesson.
I was at the 2005 “Axis for Peace” conference in Brussels that 5 star Russian General Leonid Ivashov was also attending. He basically said that he saw the sat imaging of what really hit the Pentagon. My understanding is that GW Bush and Putin made a deal wherein the CIA would stop supporting the Chechens, which makes sense because the 2nd Chechen war ended soon after. But should and will the deal still hold?
Hersh was extraodanairly detailed; a guess: it came from the Pentagon.
Dennis L.
Arsenic poisoning is another side effect of energy issues. Folk burning waste wood have raised arsenic levels in the air in UK cities to the highest levels. It seems to be a particular problem in NZ too.
People used to burn peat in Ireland, but no natural resource is going to be sustainable if large numbers depend on it, let alone waste wood. The forests are already basically gone in UK, cut down to build imperial fleets in particular.
“In Auckland, New Zealand, scientists have been investigating if people in the city were being exposed to arsenic from wood-heating. Many New Zealanders pride themselves on finding and burning free wood. Despite official warnings, almost 20% of homes routinely burn construction wood.”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/feb/09/arsenic-london-air-burning-waste-wood
> Arsenic found in London air raises fears over use of waste wood as fuel
Many people warming homes with wood from construction sites unaware of health risks, say experts
Arsenic particles are being spotted by scientists in London’s air, as concerns grow that people are increasingly burning waste wood from construction sites while being unaware of the serious health risks.
Dr Anja Tremper at Imperial College London’s air research station in south London tracked January’s data and found arsenic particles in London’s air, especially around the weekend of 2223 when air pollution reached the top index value of 10 on the UK government’s scale.
Tremper said: “This is part of a long-term pattern. When I investigated the pollution sources in the 2019 and 2020 dataset, I also found arsenic among the chemicals from wood smoke.”
Despite clear messages from government and local councils, a survey for the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs in 2018-19 revealed that about 9% of people who burned wood at home were burning waste wood.
The problem is that construction wood is normally treated with arsenic-based preservatives to protect against insects and fungi. This arsenic becomes part of the ash and smoke when the wood is burned.
The survey found examples of people burning fence panels, pallets, old furniture, doors, door frames and construction wood salvaged from skips. One woman described how her husband collected waste wood from skips using a wheelbarrow.
Many people in the survey did not know what types of wood might be treated and others justified their behaviour as harmless because they only did it occasionally. Another mistakenly thought their Defra-approved stove would remove any toxins.
And this problem is not isolated to London. Dr James Allan, who operates Manchester University’s air research site, said: “We see arsenic in Manchester as well, associated with cold weather and the black carbon that you get from wood-burning.”
In Auckland, New Zealand, scientists have been investigating if people in the city were being exposed to arsenic from wood-heating. Many New Zealanders pride themselves on finding and burning free wood. Despite official warnings, almost 20% of homes routinely burn construction wood. This can lead to airborne arsenic concentrations that are double the UK and EU legal limits….
I believe that the ash from burning wood can fly long distances. If it lands on snow, it makes the snow dark colored, so it absorbs heat from the sun more easily. Once snow near the pole melts, it doesn’t reflect the sun back. This is a reduction of the albedo effect. Ultimately, in this way, ash from burned wood contributes to global warming, based on my recollection.
I have to wonder if the two plus million dead is a human sacrifice by a Satanic cult. It makes as much sense as any other reason that has been offered.
Gail published UN data showing extra deaths in 2020-2022 to be about 25M.
However, the global population grew by ~190M overall in the same period.
The elite have all their fingers in the pot of Satanism, that I take for granted.
CBS told us they were “ready to worship” the “Unholy” performer at the Grammies.
It’s a notably strange world these days.
This is one cult I’d like to join
An American Bilderberger expressed concern over the sky-rocketing price of oil. One oil industry insider at the meeting remarked that growth is not possible without energy and that according to all indicators, world’s energy supply is coming to an end much faster than the world leaders have anticipated. According to sources, Bilderbergers estimate the extractable world’s oil supply to be at a maximum of 35 years under current economic development and population. However, one of the representatives of an oil cartel remarked that we must factor into the equation, both the population explosion and economic growth and demand for oil in China and India. Under the revised conditions, there is apparently only enough oil to last for 20 years. No oil spells the end of the world’s financial system
No kidding!
A correction, I think: zero growth brings it to an end.
We’re there already.
In other words Gail the elders have probably created the covid scare and Ukraine war as a way to somehow survive what’s coming the end of oil so things could evolve into a low tech society based on regionalization and preserving what’s left while at the same time large segments of economic activity will be sacrificed imagine if all of the USA was taken out by electromagnetic pulse weaponry that’s a 25 % saving in fossil fuels alone that would keep things going for a lot longer the elders have probably thought about this too desperate times call for desperate measures.
Had friday drinks with a couple of mates… they were discussing the Ukey think as if it was real… I mostly said nothing … then at the end I asked — hey why do you think Pooteen doesn’t just shut off the power on the Ukeys…
They need the money one says — I says ya but the Ukeys have not been paying for their power – that goes back pre war…
Don’t the Ukeys provide energy to Russia… I wanted to say Duh.. but I said no it’s the other way around.
Odd – they could shut down the Ukeys in a few days if they shut the tap — wonder why they don’t
Silence
20 years? Fantastic! Jokes aside, where did you read this / what is the source?
The year of the source is a 2005 bilderberg meeting look up 2005 bilderberg daniel estulin who is the writer of the article now think 20 years from 2005 that makes it around the next two years that the white is gonna get real crazy the elders are liable to do anything to keep the system going
So the article says 35 years or as little as 20 (from 2005), depending on the degree to which China and India develop. So that is 2025-2040. We’ve got *years* left to go! Party time!
20 years? Hell yes! Like the cut of your jib!
Uh oh don’t tell David in the motor caid
All sources of oil peaked in 2018…
Do the math:
According to Rystad, the current resource replacement ratio for conventional resources is only 16 percent. Only 1 barrel out of every 6 consumed is being replaced with new resources
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/The-Biggest-Oil-Gas-Discoveries-Of-2019.html
Well then the solution is to search 6 times more, dummy!
Wow, Noam Chomsky is on The Duran.
About 7 minutes in, Noam Chomsky is asked about the possibility of a nuclear war with Russia. He responds by saying that anyone who has looked at the situation has figured out that there is no such thing as a limited nuclear war. Almost all of the talk of nuclear war is coming from the West. Biden administration has been trying to limit the possibility of expansion of the conflict in Ukraine by limiting the weapons to defensive weapons–no fighter planes. The US seems to be willing to take a gamble: If Ukraine is able to defeat Russia with the limited support it is getting, it could prevent problems spreading to rest of the world.
According to Chomsky, the pentagon has been the dovish part of the military complex, in response to a question from Alex. Even Kissinger is now saying “Lets move toward diplomacy instead of escalating the horrors.” The US is gaining greatly from the war. Europe is being set back badly by the war. Ukraine has been devastated. Russia is suffering severely.
The United States is degrading, but overall, for the US, the Ukraine conflict is a bargain. At a small fraction of the military budget, the US is able to degrade and destroy a large share of the military budget of their biggest adversary in the world. That is a bargain. Putin’s invasion of the Ukraine gave the US a gift on a silver platter. (Up to 15:35)
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I refuse to be a pessimist, but perhaps speed bumps are closer than generally known. It seems like desperation on the part of the West, the threats are more akin to the behavior of a two year old.
Dennis L.
Other commentators say Russia’s military has been strengthened by the war – nothing beats getting off the training field for the real contest.
Lots of fast evolution of weapons and fighting techniques in battle conditions.
Russia has resources and weapons to burn and is willingly trading them for the lives of its soldiers, with the kill ratio improving all the time and currently around 15:1.
Machine kill rate is possibly even better as their use of drones and precision munitions has improved and they fine tune their ISR and air defences.
The US is losing hegemony, its reputation as a military force and the petrodollar, so that doesn’t look like a bargain to me.
Ya but why fight when you could just turn off the tap to the Ukeys… do it for a few days… ask them how they like that … turn it on and give them a week to capitulate…
If not then twist the arm even harder… twist it till it snaps… then grab the other arm….
There would be no need to bring the other arm. They beg for mercy
An all out nuclear bombardment and the ensuing ROF would be a fitting end to this disaster we call humans
That’s an odd thing for Chomsky to say since, if one assumes the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki to be atomic ones, that was an example of a limited nuclear war, no?
The bombs dropped on dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki didn’t seem to do very much. We visited there when we visited Japan in 2017. The area is well inhabited now. There isn’t much lasting sign of damage, other than a few walls down. There aren’t terrible stories of long-term injuries either, as I recall. There was a big memorial that we visited, but apart from that, it was hard to see much evidence.
I assumed that the atomic bombs dropped there were very low in power, compared to others available, but I have not researched the subject at all.
They were very small compared to what is available today.
Later:
In the West, Russia’s attack Ukraine is nearly always called unprovoked, even though it clearly was provoked.
Why should Russia blow up the pipeline? The pipeline was a major investment of Russia. It had no motive to blow it up. Which country have the capability and motive to blow it up? It’s obvious, the United States. Biden said, “We have to prevent this pipeline.” Seymour Hersh came out with a post about what happened; it should have been obvious.
It has been reported that India is moving away from its close relationship with China. This is nonsense. The full speech by Modi is a love letter to the Chinese. They are closer than ever.
The propaganda coverup now is not as extreme as years ago. The Viet Nam War was the worst crime after the Second World War. There is nothing to compare. Pure aggression. Three countries destroyed. Chemical weapons still killing people. There is nothing to compare with it. To this day, in the MSM in the US, all you can say is, “The Viet Nam War was a mistake.” You can’t call it a crime of aggression. The story is framed as a fight against North Viet Nam aggression, but it really was a war against South Viet Nam.
Even today, the most critical statement a person can make of the Iraq war is, “It was a mistake.” Sadam’s worst crimes took place with the support of the US. US shooting down of an airline can’t be talked about, even today.
We are always “helping” Ukraine. We replaced their leaders, with our selected leaders, which supposedly helped Ukraine. We are now “helping” Ukraine.
George Orwell talked about Double Think: Hold two contradictory ideas at once. Russia can’t conquer anything; at the same time, they are a big threat to the West. Western propaganda now is, “Join NATO because big Russia is coming to attack you.” The US really wanted a big enemy, as an excuse for its big military. Now, the Chinese are being made the villain. Early on, it was the Native American Indians who were deemed the big enemies.
Likelihood of a war over Taiwan with China? Chomsky: Insanity. You can’t have a war with a country with nuclear capability.
International affairs does not accept disobedience. No other country can be the God Father. Try to stop any other country from gaining dominance by stopping development, instead.
Chomsky has a lot of insight, but he came across as a moralist.
He points out that the MSM habitually lies its backside off about what is going on and why. To him it is levels of ‘moderately sophisticated’ or ‘highly sophisticated’ propaganda. To me, they are all just stupid, childish lies. But I am not ‘judging’ them, they either work or they do not. The lies are obviously aimed at status, power, and influence, which is what states are after. I see them as ‘sc/m’, but that is how the world works, so give credit where it is due. The ‘plebs’ are wired for bias, they lap up the BS and support it, and it seems to be how humans have evolved. It just is what it is.
As I say, I am not a conventional ‘moralist’, and I do not ‘blame’ anyone. In fact, if that is how the world works then maybe the ‘sc/m’ should be praised and the ‘decent’ blamed for their weakness. It all depends on the perspective. But pretending to be ‘decent’ is part and parcel of being ‘sc/m’, so no one is ever really going to say that. No doubt it is deeply rooted in evolutionary psychology, and the group control and approval of the herd. People need to appear to be ‘right’ or ‘justified’, and that frames the techniques of being sc/m, so deception and bias are part and parcel of that.
All ‘rights’ are made up and that includes the geopolitical ‘rights’ and ‘international law’. It is all fantasy that was developed to extend the power of states in the early imperial period through writers like Grotian and Locke. Again it is deeply rooted in the group control and approval lark and the impulse to pose as ‘right’ or ‘justified’. They are even called ‘rights’ lol. And they were aimed at ‘justifying’ what humans did in that period: basically the ‘right’ to travel to a place, to occupy it, to appropriate its resources, and to defend them from others, and concepts like ‘sovereignty’ were framed in self-interested ways.
Russia talks about its ‘right’ to ‘security’, to not let its adversaries get an advantage over it. And that is just as completely made up as the ‘right’ to ‘sovereignty’ and to join military alliances that give one an advantage over adversaries. States are always looking to advance their strength and their power relative to their adversaries in so far as they can. It is just what they do, and the pretence is maintained that they are ‘right’ to do so. And those purported ‘rights’ contradict each other, because the interests of the states vary according to their position in the situation.
So, states and the MSM do lie about what is going on and why, to make themselves look ‘right’ and the other side ‘blameworthy’, but the idea that anyone is ‘right’ or ‘wrong’ is also a lie in the first place. The ‘right’ to ‘punish’ was also framed to extend power over adversaries. It is just basically super-chimps (humans) acting out dual impulses to extend power and also to look ‘right’. If they were more honest, then they would talk about the ‘right’ to violate, to injure, to exploit each other and to extend one’s power – not just about the ‘right’ to defend oneself but also to attack others – because that is what they really do. But super-chimp psychology seems to generally preclude that honesty.
So, Chomsky is insightful about the lies and the injury, but he poses as a moralist and he talks about ‘illegality’ and ‘criminality’ when that too is made up lies. But I do not blame him for that. He is a super-chimp, and he can only say, and maybe even see, certain things – and if he can see them, he still cannot say them if only for personal and professional reasons. He poses as an improver of the world, and he fancies that things are getting less worse than they were back in the 1960s. And that is OK, super-chimps clearly work also through moralism and that too can contribute to the extension of power and well-being. It is a super-chimp balance.
Whether there will be much scope for moralistic pretences and strategies after the collapse is another matter. The pretence of ‘international law’ is liable to go out of the window, but it remains to be seen….
Finally, he seems to think that USA is only ever the strong guy (as well as tending to be the bad guy, or at least one of them), and that its adversaries are weak, and that USA will benefit from it all but not the adversaries. And no doubt his experience in the past has encouraged that view. But it is another question whether that perhaps moralised prism is quite so valid in the present situation. Most other serious commentators see Russia as fine militarily and not about to be degraded, and they think that Russia will do well out of this as the world shifts away from USA hegemony. Europe looks to do worst.
So, Chomsky is well worth listening to, but he is not perfect. (Oh dear, I have made myself late typing this! pls forgive any typos, must dash)
Chomsky just want to feel good about himself just as every other ‘super chimp’ (or rapacious primate) engaging in the monkey business.
Nobody wants to be the explicit villain even though they’re all Hypers doing what Hypers do, which is to blow through finite resources ultimately ending up fighting each other for the scraps.
Thus implicitly wanting war, however explicitly we BS ourselves into delusions of a perpetual status quo with infinite resources and ever lasting peace powered by wind turbines and unicorn farts.
Such is the inevitability of Homo sapiens sapiens sexual dimorphism, and other psychological and psychosocial effects at “play”.
I guess it is what it is.
Not much solace in that, though.
However, I’m gonna treat myself with a brand spanking new snowboard. The little things you know; a sheet of wood, resin, carbon fiber, steel, laminated, cured, cut and ground to shape.
1/10 of a barrel – tops. Am I excused, no?
https://shop.f2.com/media/image/d5/b6/4c/908232_F2_silberpfeil_carbon_top_graphicyNSz4F0wnn2cC.jpg
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The CofE is considering the use of ‘gender neutral’ terms about God, which is inevitably contentious, with some for and some against.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/07/church-of-england-to-consider-use-of-gender-neutral-terms-for-god
So, is Yahweh is bloke? Well the answer seems to be, well mainly, sort of.
He was originally a God of storm and war, so you might think that he would be a bloke, but actually such gods could be of either sex, so we need to look for which he was.
It seems fair to say that he certainly at least becomes a bloke, which probably sounds like an odd statement, but while he certainly is later a bloke with a consort (wife), he does not seem to have a consort early on, it is all just about him and his armies, and some such gods of storm and war were women, so I am not entirely clear about the earliest Yahweh, and I am not sure that anyone is. There does not seem to be much information about the earliest Yahweh.
The original top God of the Canaanites (the Jews were Canaanites) was El (a bloke), the ‘father’ of the gods, who has the consort Asherah, and Yahweh was an Edomite storm God who was incorporation into the Canaanite pantheon as a son of El. The tribes all had their special one of the gods, and Yahweh was the one of Israel (originally named after El). Anyway at some point they make Yahweh the Top God, he becomes conflated with El, and Asherah in any case becomes his wife, although Yahweh later dumps her for Anat-Yahu as his consort. So he certainly is bloke by that point, sort of in the image of El, after having become a son of El.
But as Israel rejects the gods special to the other tribes, previously all shared in a common way of pantheon, the traits of El and Asherah (fertility, life giving) get absorbed into Yahweh (the original ‘trinity’ in a way?), so Yahweh becomes a synthesis that includes the traits of Asherah, a woman, and he is the source also of fertility.
Fertility gods seem to have mainly been women (mothers), but some were blokes, some of whom had consorts. Asherah certainly was a woman, and Yahweh got some of his traits by absorbing her into himself, but does that diminish his at least acquired masculinity? Not necessarily.
So, is Yahweh a bloke? Probably mainly, at least in the end. Strictly speaking hermaphrodite as he absorbs Asherah, but fertility gods could be blokes anyway. There is maybe a bit of ‘fluidity’ and ambiguity there as he develops.
He ended up as the only god recognised, so he would have to contain all traits associated with deities in so far as he contains them all, but I am not clear that they there actually were any traits that could not be represented by either sex in pantheons. A ‘gender neutral’ God is probably not as silly as might sound to some at first.
Does anyone really think that God has ‘got a pair’ of any description?
In any case, it is not something that I am liable to stress about – just engaging with the local culture here lol.
Some references:
– The oldest plausible occurrence of his name is in the phrase “Shasu of Yhw” in an Egyptian inscription from the time of Amenhotep III (1402–1363 BCE),[23][24] the Shasu being nomads from Midian and Edom in northern Arabia.[25] The current consensus is therefore that Yahweh was a “divine warrior from the southern region associated with Seir, Edom, Paran and Teman”.[26]
– With the notable exception of Yahweh himself, the deities worshipped by Israel were also Canaanite. These included El, the ruler of the pantheon,[39] Asherah, his consort, and Baal.[40]
In the earliest Biblical literature Yahweh has characteristics of a storm-god typical of ancient Near Eastern myths, marching out from a region to the south or south-east of Israel with the heavenly host of stars and planets that make up his army to do battle with the enemies of his people Israel:[17]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh
– In 9th century and the rejection of Baal worship associated with the prophets Elijah and Elisha the Yahweh-religion began to separate itself from its Canaanite heritage; this process continued over the period 800-500 BCE with legal and prophetic condemnations of the asherim, sun-worship and worship on the high places, along with practices pertaining to the dead and other aspects of the old religion.[49] Features of Baal, El, and Asherah were absorbed into Yahweh, El (or ‘el) became a generic term meaning “god” as opposed to the name of a specific god, and epithets such as El Shaddai came to be applied to Yahweh alone.[50]
– “Alongside Yahweh was his consort Asherah,[31] (replaced by the goddess “Anat-Yahu” in the temple of the 5th century Jewish settlement Elephantine in Egypt),[32] and various biblical passages indicate that statues of the goddess were kept in Yahweh’s temples in Jerusalem, Bethel, and Samaria.[33][34]”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahwism
Here is Tangaroa, whom western Polynesians regard as the supreme creator god.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-36nFKaP59ZQ/UoQi-sUQJ1I/AAAAAAAAGe4/ZZv8zetE6j8/s400/tangaroa.jpg
Notice the pregnant belly, along with a weener that is not exactly weeny.
I just wonder how S/He is going to manage to give birth, given that arrangement. “Male and female made He them”, but “He” is apparently both!
Nope, Yahweh is most definitely a (hottie) female. No real male divinity with a big stick would ever hold a grudge for more than 2 days tops.
Yup, indeed I found an icon of her on the interwebz:
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/starcraft/images/1/16/InfestedKerrigan_SC2_DevCine2.jpg
And given the woke/feminism/metoo “movement”, for sure must be pulling some strings from above so below to manage her minions.
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So we should re-write the Lord’s prayer (we call it ‘preghiera del padre nostro’), starting from the Aramaic version (Jesus’ language at the time).
Thank you for this piece of information, Mirror
You are always welcome.
It is an interesting one, as arguably the idea that God has gender is a throwback to the obvious anthropomorphism of polytheism, and it is actually stark and obvious ‘heresy’ – and yet the churches continue with the ‘tradition’, and they can argue that it is contained in the inherited texts.
Obviously gender is an organic concept, and God is a different sort of ‘being’. It is a ‘category mistake’.
Obviously I am not arguing that the more abstract monotheistic God is not also anthropomorphic. It is obviously is an attempt to frame human (super-chimp) concerns as ‘real’, certainly as ‘morality’ and ‘legislation’ (arguably also conceptually, ontologically, but let’s leave it at that for now.)
So, it is an interesting case where ‘orthodoxy’, a gendered God, is obviously stark ‘heresy’ – and also ‘orthodoxy’.
The Bible is a mishmash of developments and retractions, and it is only inchoately monotheistic in places, at best, and outright polytheistic in other places. It has been edited and re-edited through the millennia.
‘Traditionalists’ and ‘conservatives’ will support the rhetorical ‘tradition’ of a gendered God, but often they will do so for other, extraneous, even political motives. And no doubt the same can be said of ‘liberals’ if they challenge it.
Humans are generally always ‘self-interested’ even, even especially, when it comes to ‘God’.
I repeat, a gendered God is obvious ‘heresy’ while also ‘orthodoxy’.
I expect a lot of people will be unhappy about the Church of England wanting to use gender neutral terms for God. Once on church leads the way, others will follow.
It’s about the male and female principle, impulse and reception – therefore there originate creator in abrahamic religions is male, giving the initial impulse for the creation of our universe.
The principle is reflected of course in our human reproductive organs and conception, but it is a general principle of give and receive.
Senator Fetterman hospitalized for stroke. We do get noisy data about the inner workings of the elite, but they surely could run a tighter ship. Or did he not get the memo somehow?
(Il Paragone + La Verità)
‘An EU course taught politicians and member of institutions how to use terror in the event of a pandemic.
Punish no-(covid)-vaxers, hide adverse effects, social distancing, force vaccination”
”Three main goals of the project: to understand what communication strategies public health should adopt to communicate preventive actions to the population to be implemented (e.g., hygiene standards, vaccinations, therapies); to identify the most appropriate communication methods to deal with the complexity of events (uncertainty, ignorance, and all the different forms of misinformation); and to develop the best communication strategies for proper information about vaccines.”
[…] The main points included insisting on vaccines as the only solution and controlling information and social media. The board studied what might be the best strategies to get people to vaccinate. “Obligations carry a penalty, the denial of a social privilege such as attending school or working,” they wrote in the horror report. […] repressive strategies to force people to vaccinate were being developed in this European program.
One point is equally interesting: the report never considers the possibility that there could be adverse effects. They even write that-by definition deaths caused by vaccines (so they were considering that possibility anyway) would always be lower from those caused by pandemics anyway. Then they also consider-as happened later perfectly in the management of the pandemic in Italy (and elsewhere) vaccinate everyone, even those who do not need it.”
https://www.laverita.info/corso-come-usare-terrore-pandemia-2659387111.html
https://www.ilparagone.it/attualita/progetto-tell-me-pandemia-europa-terrore-vaccini/
‘and controlling information and social media.’
Its not a conspiracy Captain Mainwaring!
Its just good Governance don’t you know.
Keep calm and keep boosting!
Keep boosting is good 😀
I am all for the pro-vax folks to boost and boost often.
norm’s gone back into the ICU… too much boosters
Oh my, Poor boy, your blow shipment has been intercepted!
(CNN)More than 3 tons of cocaine floating in the ocean have been seized by authorities in New Zealand in one of the country’s single biggest drugs busts.
Some 81 bales of cocaine weighing 3.2 metric tons (3.5 short tons) were intercepted in the Pacific Ocean as part of Operation Hydros — a joint initiative between New Zealand’s police, customs and defense force.
Those behind the policing operation valued the haul at more than half a billion New Zealand dollars (about $318 million).
Bugger.
Slovakia in numbers: Wood prices have risen, but the stock of the wood in the forests is at a record high
https://www.trend.sk/trend-archiv/slovensko-cislach-ceny-dreva-vzrastli-ale-zasoba-drevnej-hmoty-lesoch-je-rekordna
The energy crisis helped to raise the price of the wood, but, I guess, it is only temporary. The population can not withstand such high prices, so it is possible that a lot of the wood will remain not harvested in the forests with bad accessibility.
It is the really poor countries that are seeing depleted forests, based on World Bank data I have looked at in the recent past.
When the population is ageing in the countries with the mountains and the cold weather, it will not switch back from natural gas or electricity to wood.
ByBloomberg News
February 8, 2023 at 12:00 AM EST
Russia Survived a Year of Sanctions by Investing as Never Before
Capital spending grew after 2022 invasion but risks loom ahead
Companies had to spend to replace imports and diversify trade
Russia is seeking to spend its way out of the self-inflicted economic crisis that threatened to deliver the deepest recession of President Vladimir Putin’s more than two-decade rule.
Roaring exports of commodities funneled capital into the coffers of the government and companies, feeding an upswing in business investment that was without precedent during previous economic contractions and proved crucial to powering the war effort in the Ukraine.
See, what a relief, all is fine Russia, …I’ll send it to Joe Blogs
Not sure how to square that with the following from Bloomberg:
“Non-oil and gas revenues were 28% lower at 981 billion roubles, attributed to lower domestic VAT and income tax takings.”
That would indicate a huge hit to domestic demand and wages, if true.
As for “Roaring exports of commodities” – this is the mark of a failure by Russia to diversify its economy away from commodities and up the value chain. Dutch disease, basically.
Financial channels other than the $US perhaps?
If Dutch Disease is a dependance on real commodities, what does is dependance on exporting merely bits and bytes (promissory notes via reserve currency) get characterised as?
Potemken disease perhaps?
Great gig while it lasted.
The UK had the same problem in the 80s and 90s. You basically have to import goods from the people who buy your oil, otherwise they cant afford it.
The economic system works strangely. Everyone has to keep spending to keep it going. And, it is necessary to import goods from the people who buy your oil, or they won’t have funds to buy it.
The Europeans ended up exporting a lot of cars here, BMW, VW, Fiat, you name it.
The Japanese on the other hand did not buy British oil so in their case they opened car plants.
Nissan, Toyota, Komatsu and many others.
The new auto industry jobs went some way towards regenerating the old coal based northern towns as the coal and iron industries shut down.
Yoga teacher thought she was suffering from anxiety and allergies. She had 3 heart attacks in less than a month.
Andrea Michelson Feb 8, 2023, 3:25 PM
https://www.insider.com/yoga-teacher-had-three-heart-attacks-2023-2?amp
The yoga teacher, who was 45-years-old at the time, told Insider that her whole family made an effort to eat mostly organic, unprocessed foods after her father suffered a massive heart attack decades prior. She also meditated daily and exercised often.
Since April 2020, Pinelli said she had experienced some sweating and shortness of breath when she tried to walk her new puppy, Ananda. She assumed her symptoms were caused by a combination of allergies and anxiety, but it all came to a head one night in June.
Her second heart attack happened less than a week later
She had her second heart attack on the treadmill less than a week after her first episode. She said she felt the same pain in her chest, wrists, and elbows — and this time, she called her doctor.
Pinelli said she has a history of anxiety, so when she spoke to her doctor via telemedicine, she was expecting to be sent on her way with a prescription for Xanax. Fortunately, the doctor was able to see her in person and opted to check out her heart with an EKG.
“They all told me, ‘You’re 45 and you’re healthy and you’re a yoga teacher, you’re going to be fine,'” Pinelli said. “And I wasn’t. Instead, they found a 100% blockage and they put a stent in.”
After her third heart attack, Pinelli learned to advocate for her health
About a week after she got her first stent, Pinelli said the pain returned while she was out walking the dog with her father.
But Pinelli decided to listen to her body and went back to the doctor for more tests. Her EKG and troponin levels —both measures of heart function — came back abnormal, and she had her third heart attack at the hospital. She needed another stent and was prescribed beta-blockers to reduce her blood pressure.
Pinelli said her recovery was slower than she would have liked, but switching from a male doctor to a female cardiologist made “a world of difference.” Her new doctor adjusted her medication and coached her through a gradual return to exercise, which Pinelli said became terrifying after her heart attacks.
Unlucky her, hope she didn’t forget to get the latest booster…
This was in 2020 so maybe COVID caused it. TBF a friend had a mild brain bleed at the time of his ‘Omicron’ in early 2022.
Don’t dismiss these crafty bio-weapons. We seem to have been attacked by a mild one, aiming to cause terror, followed by a considerably worse one that claimed to deal with the mild one.
Could be – given they made the Frankenstein in a lab… anyone who has had Covid has a bit of the Rat Juice inside
But that’s no reason to shoot mega doses of Rat Juice
hahaha
Stress and anxiety is the real killer.
Pinelli said she has a history of anxiety….
hahahaha… full re tard here… full MORE-ON mode….
Anything but the vax!
Full SCHAD.
Florida Man” Wins Seven Marathons on Seven Continents in Seven Days
Run a marathon. Recover mid-flight to another continent. Run a marathon. Rinse. Repeat. Outside magazine
Wonder if he was fully vaccinated to travel on Seven Continents?
David Kilgore just ran—and won—seven marathons in seven days on seven continents. The 31-year-old American runner averaged about 2:56 per marathon, which means he ran 183.4 miles at 6:43 pace per mile.
Kilgore was one of 35 runners who completed the World Marathon Challenge on February 6, a globetrotting enterprise that sends runners on a weeklong running journey, where they stop to run 26.2 miles in Antarctica, Cape Town, South Africa, Perth, Australia, Dubai, Madrid, Spain, Fortaleza, Brazil, and Miami.
The event, which has a $45,000 entry fee, has been organized by Richard Donovan of Global Running Adventures since 2015. The races are run on multiple-loop courses in each of the cities—not tied to established events—all of which add up to 26.2 miles.
Kinda silly thing to do with your oil, ain’t it? With virtual races being offered on the internet..why bother with the jet lag…silly people.
But it’s a record setting accomplishment! please…suppose best to get it out of your system before there is NO travel industry, per say
Another excuse to dissipate energy.
Nicely observed…very productive and helps with the GWP economy stats…things are just fine…the sheeple follow such things like Lebron James setting another all time scoring record in the NBA!
It’s as if I won a billion dollars in a lottery and 39 years later someone won two billion dollars,” Abdul-Jabbar wrote. “How would I feel? Grateful that I won and happy that the next person also won. His winning in no way affects my winning.”
While Abdul-Jabbar admitted he may feel differently had someone broken his record even a decade after he did, he said he no longer feels that way now. Having retired from the NBA 34 years ago, Abdul-Jabbar said he’s now more focused on his family and social activism.
“If I had a choice of having my scoring record remain intact for another hundred years or spend one afternoon with my grandchildren, I’d be on the floor in seconds stacking Legos and eating Uncrustables,” he wrote.
Yes, as Gail encourages us all to do…..
Latest from YouTuber Joe Blogs on Russia and how the things are going..
Winning..Tiger Blood…
RUSSIAN Economy COLLAPSES to Worst Deficit in Russian History as Revenues Crash & Costs Soar in Jan
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HKEPbcFBHZo
Claims the figures are from the State itself and if so we are in ruff times ahead..
Enjoy your time today because tomorrow ain’t going to get any better
Interesting video. I didn’t look at it in detail, but what I’m curious about is the dramatic fall in exports to India in the last month. My understanding was that Russia was selling a lot to India, where it was being refined and sent on to Europe, on account of the ban on direct to EU sales.
https://youtu.be/HKEPbcFBHZo?t=776
it seems to be fake news garbage as i would expect from Joe Blogs.
https://wap.business-standard.com/article-amp/economy-policy/india-imported-more-russian-crude-oil-than-ever-in-january-shows-data-123020100281_1.html
India imported more Russian crude oil than ever in January, shows data
India imported between 1.27 to 1.42 million barrels of Russian crude per day, which made up 28% of India’s supplies in January, the highest ever
This video is worth watching. I am afraid that Joe Blogs is right: The sanctions are really having a bad effect on Russia’s income and outgo. This is reflected in Russia’s January published financials. The ban on imported oil products doesn’t go into effect until February 5. It will lead to an even worse impact on income. If the war continues, it will have a bad effect on outgo. The video shows exports by month of both oil and oil products.
I am afraid that the world is headed toward World War 3. Russia cannot put up with this situation. Europe cannot withstand this situation either because it needs to do something. Russia needs to do something.
At this point US should think what are they going to do with a nuclear disaster.
What they are going to do with a wasteland of scorched earth and death.
What are they going to do if all the rest is dead?
Who will they sell their goods and service to?
See Herman Kahn’s book On Thermal Nuclear War.
His point a nuclear war is winnable with an acceptable number of deaths 20 million in US.
Do not be too sure the rulers share your thinking.
Joe has become a full blown Ukrainian apologist.
Has been saying the same thing for one straight year. I guess that butters his bread.
HIV testing: ‘Home tests can help remove stigma
BBC News
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-64545610.amp
https://t.me/realUniversalNEWS
BBC News (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-64545610.amp)
‘HIV home tests can help remove stigma’ – BBC News
Ellie Harrison was diagnosed through a free home test which is being rolled out by the government.
Nice https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/64390
F789… Ya
Rumble (https://rumble.com/v23c0y8-turbo-cancer-dr.-charles-hoffe-says-23-of-his-patients-new-cancer-diagnoses.html?fbclid=IwAR3561ckz8hQzjsz4lFX6mrcR2-pxHcmXeCucrThhadEhEftpmG5Ehm1SZs)
“Turbo Cancer”: Dr. Charles Hoffe Says 2/3 of His Patients’ New Cancer Diagnoses are Stage 4
Lets check https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/64387
The Hebrew term Divoc means “the possession of the pernicious soul”. It’s a compound word that also translates as a package, bundle, or discrete part. It can also mean “to tear apart,” “to separate,” or “to annihilate.” Some conveniences in the U.S. say the name gathers the commitment of a person to a poisonous soul. Other words that are related to this word include dybbuk, and COVID, which stands for coronavirus disease.
In Hebrew, the word Divoc means “the possession of a demon.” This name is also referred to as “possessed by an evil spirit.” There are a few other possible meanings for the name Divoc, but they all refer to the same thing: the evil soul. If you were to try to find out what possessed the person, you’d be able to tell how the person got that name.
https://jewish.shop/37046/what-does-divoc-mean-in-hebrew/
No need for Devil Covid … when it comes we refer to it as Divoc.
This saves having to invent a new name.
I am afraid we will hit devil vaccine before devil covid.
norm… very funny (for once) https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/64314
Buying a car that is too low to get out of gracefully.
I like the idea of those American cars where the steering wheel and seat shift to make room of the Giant Gut to get in…. whoever invented that deserves a Poolitzer Prize or at least a gold medal
Trust the BBCCNN hahaha https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/64256
Death! https://twitter.com/paulcrewther/status/1621785247607304194?s=46&t=7UAScYP5P3vLhy_edKVFlg
PR Team in action https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/64221
https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/64246
norm supports this https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/64247
PeteEV https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/64189
Discuss
Sheesh 299 barrels of oil translates to:
5.980 gallons, or 22.636 liters of gasoline.
A gasoline powered econobox (0.5liter/10km) can thus rack up about 500.000km before that battery is “paid off”, assuming the EV uses no fossil fuels at all for charging, which sort of a fantasy.
I might have done some calculations wrong.
I can’t access the link but do they really quote 299 barrels of oil to make an EV? That’s about 299 x 1,700 kWh = say 510,000 kWh = say 50,000 ltr of petrol or diesel. ‘European-sized’ diesel cars wouldn’t use that much fuel even over say a 20 year lifespan. Of course, US-sized cars might use more, but some of them probably wouldn’t even fit between the hedges on a UK country lane.
It was estimated between 200 to 300 barrels of oil (energy equivalent) to manufacture one battery pack for an EV.
I chose the worst case scenario, just because.
But 200 barrels is bad enough, and that you say is only for a EV battery. Oh s*** …
It seems a bit much, but I’m sure there’s some heavy mining, processing and refining to get those minerals into cells, and ultimately assembled in EVs.
Stamping out some sheet metal in the form of a petrol/diesel tank is a somewhat simpler process I reckon.
But don’t worry, I’ve got an e-bike and a train for you to use instead. If you’re hardcore you’ll only power the frivolous transportation needs (yes, that includes commuting to “work”) by churning and turning.
🏙️🚴💨💨💨🏠🌾🌾🌾
Maybe PeteEV can check the math?
Pete?
Pete?
Or maybe it’s just plain Pete now .. no EV
The real “EV” ‘revolution’ is the e-bike.
“In 2022, the global e-bikes market is expected to reach around 36.5 million units.“
“Even with Covid-19 restrictions and component shortages, global EV sales topped 6.4 million units sold worldwide for the year.”
Source: Google
Not quite one magnitude order less in EV’s than e-bikes. But 2023 will bring us there.
🥳👍👍
I remember that, years ago, one of The Oil Drum commenters was very much in favor of e-bikes as a transition means of travel. They could provide transportation without dragging around the huge automobile weight. With baskets and other accessories, they could carry some cargo as well. If somehow the battery ran down, they would be more easily movable than an automobile. They could be stored inside an apartment, if desired.
Yep, I l guess a complete e-bike with batteries and all takes tops two barrels of oil equivalent to produce. It makes sense for people less inclined to embrace the suck on a regular bike.
A maxed out e-bike battery is about 5kg, while a typical EV battery is about 500kg (Tesla model 3 long range). That’s about two orders of magnitude more.
Make sure to pick one with belt drive and gearing inside the rear hub as a daily commute/beater. Wide tires helps for a wee bit less ‘suck’ too.
Plenty of these around here with a trailer behind either full off foodstuffs, progeny or a combination thereof.
I got an eMTB, a bit more radical, when I’m going full send in the gnarly trails where I live. Otherwise I’m churning and turning on the rapacious primate powered crankenstein.
Why?
Because!
Doomie preppers riding to the Sunday Kumbaya market on their E-Bikes with hitch ons carrying their organic produce… (E bikes will grow on .. E bike trees!)
Tranny performers invite the children to fondle their sacks while parents dance about clapping hands and smiling like zombie MORE-ONS…
It’s a god damn Utopia on offer — seize it
I reckon you suggests that the doomie preppers are trying to save themselves? The trannies are just that. Trannies.
Hardly anything surprising with existential angst and sexual confusion with this lovely sexual dimorphism we got spinning out of control in the Rapacious Primate wheel of folly.
But I digress.
There won’t be any EV’s or regular fossil burners on the road in a few years. But I’m sure we’ll see moar e-bikes, cuz affordability issues, at least for a little while until starvation and persistent blackouts starts to rip into the Monkey Business for real.
In the mean time:
YOLO!
Hypers gonna hyper!
MOARons gonna moaron!
(etc.)
✨🛸 💨💨💨 🌍💥☄️☄️☄️🌞
(Just send it!)
Or Nuke it from orbit – it’s the only way to be sure.
The obvious next step here is for the lazy anti-crankers to be offered an E-Bike that requires not pedal power whatsoever — essentially a scooter powered by a battery…
It will still have pedals but they will be ornamental… so the weaklings can pretend they are exercising.
https://static9.depositphotos.com/1055647/1100/i/950/depositphotos_11005502-stock-photo-five-very-obese-fat-men.jpg
Here it rains, it snows, it get down to negative 8F. Ebike f*** that.
Find the battery on FE’s bike
https://i.postimg.cc/fTvCmgNw/Bike-no-battery.jpg
I was waiting for it to dip below -10 °C for embracing that blistering suck on my crankenstein (a Giant TCX Advanced Pro 2 2016, FYI) modded up for proper sends down and up the hill – in all conditions.
After all, it’s basically cross country skiing, but rather than having two planks of plastic and wood strapped to your feet providing propulsion, carbon fiber, pedals, a crank, a chain and studded tires. Some additional complexity required to make it stick, however. It’s all good.
Just imagine all those deluded Hypers trying to ‘save the world’ and completely incapable of embracing the slightest physical discomfort. It’s a disgrace for the species.
Yes indeed,
“Hope is for suckers”
— Alan Watts
Now go embrace it, the suck that is.
“Find the battery on FE’s bike”
Nice Specialized (gravel?) kit you’ve got there, but where’s the meat sack of folly and bag of oats powering it?
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Yes a Diverge… FE is sitting on it … but HE has not physical presence so you cannot see him.
Good to observe flat pedals on that pure blood steed, mine (diverged?) bastardized into a crankenstein of various nuts, bolts, bits and pieces.
Only halfwitted Hypers turn the cranks strapped to the bike on clip ins.
But I digress.
Do you bring (trail) doggo with you on the gravel escapades?
https://youtu.be/XKZUADNd6pY
“Renewables: not enough minerals, energy or time and mining is destructive
Posted on January 22, 2021 by energyskeptic”
https://energyskeptic.com/2021/renewables-not-enough-minerals-energy-time-or-clean-and-green/
Any way the problem is looked at, the answer is the same.
Robert Bryce has a Substack article up called, “Out of Transmission.”
https://robertbryce.substack.com/p/out-of-transmission
Out Of Transmission
There is a video by Bill Gates saying that US transmission needs to double, to handle the higher transmission needs of an all-electric economy. This post by Robert Bryce is saying that will take 140 years, at the current rate of adding transmission.
Breaking News: A man who goes by the name PeteEV jumped off the Brooklyn Bridge earlier this evening committing suicide. Witnesses said they saw a man wandering in the vicinity of the bridge shouting ‘Elon you sun of a bitch – you lied – it’s all a fraud!’
aha – tim m gets paid to say renewables will save us – I get it now
The world on wheels. Wheels going round. Vehicles. Motor vehicles. But if there’s no energy, then no wheels. Well – unless you push them. But the world still goes round.
And if we humans have no energy – no food – we die. But still the world goes round. The electron still whizzes around the nucleus. So what does it feed on? Where does it gets its energy from? Without energy we humans die. Stones have no energy. They’re not alive. But they are made of atoms, and the electrons in those atoms keep whizzing round the nuclei. So just where do the electrons get their energy from?
I think we need Gail to investigate this question. We should use nanotechnology to miniaturise her, so that she can get close up to the electron and see where it gets its juice from. So if we can work that out, Gail wins a Nobel Prize and we can all get the essential juice. FE talks of rat juice. Let’s call this “universe juice”. It’s what keeps the universe going, even after all the living creatures in it will have died.
So, having sourced the universe juice (UJ for short), we can just pop down to the supermarket and buy some in tin cans. Or who knows, we might even be able to brew our own – just like those smokers who roll their own, or the real ale lovers who brew their own.
It’s a serious question, though – just what DOES power the universe? It’s apparently rippling with quantum foam non-stop, but what powers the quantum foam (or whatever it’s called)?
There are some things in life that puzzle you, but then you just stop thinking about them for the rest of your life. Remember the first time you saw film of spermatozoa as they raced to fertilise the egg. When I saw that film as a teenager, I thought that they looked like little animals that knew what they were doing. Nowadays I would have asked, “Do they have consciousness?” And if so, what is it LIKE to be a spermatozoon? Not that they could have consciousness for very long, because they die soon after they finish their journey. But if they are conscious beasts, who or what trains them to do what they do? It’s not as if they could get sent on a course, as we did at work when we learnt a new skill. If they’re conscious, it must be instinct. And in any case we have lots of things living inside our body that do different things – bacteria in our guts, also anti-bodies that hunt and kill intruders. Et cetera.
But if spermatozoa are not conscious, just what is the mechanism that makes them twist and turn as they race towards the egg? How is it possible? Have any biologists or scientists pondered the question?
Anyway, where can I buy some UJ, so I can stock up on a few gallons before the fossil fuels and stuff run out?
Good questions!
What IS energy? Friend good with physics/chemistry said: “scientifically it is something you can measure with predictability, but you cannot define what it IS”.
Isn’t energy nothing more but the flow of mass through time, dependend on these two variables?
What makes them really flow I wonder?
Apparently the cohesive force of atoms (gravity), when there is an assymetric configuration, turbulence ensues….
There is no such thing as “energy”, per se, in my view. It really is just a mathematical construct around the instantaneous reaction functions between matter and forces.
i.e. an attribute that we can assign to describe the behavior of a system, but not a physical property in itself.
Not quite;
The energy of a single photon is: hν.
The energy of matter is: mc².
It is very much definite.
One can argue that energy is what makes properties measurable.
That which carry no energy is purely abstract, even though it might consume energy in its state transitions, such as our concepts of energy and its measurable properties.
A photon interacts with its surroundings through effects that can be described by equations. Those direct effects are real and the unit that you call “energy” is but a useful descriptor and secondary measure.
That’s my take, anyway. I don’t know that the distinction will make sense or seem important to everyone.
The photon, for example, interacts with its surroundings (and measuring apparatus if such is present) by the exchange of all (or some) of its energy.
Its frequency, or wavelength, is a measure of its electromagnetic, vibrational cycles in space and time.
The true mystery is the various fields, such as the electric, magnetic and gravitational which forms when matter of certain properties is in certain configurations and sizes.
It is an induced spatiotemporal polarization caused by the fundamental property energy which enables exchange between vibrational entities, such as atoms, electrons and photons as they traverse space and time.
All fields are inherently relativistic. And thus are relational by their distinct polarization of the medium (space), which is another word for a manifestation of a difference in energy levels.
Space is thus a relational means for energy transfer between vibrational fields enabled by space itself.
Maybe.
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“The energy of matter is: mc².”
So I’m going to the supermarket. I’ll tell the assistant that I’m looking for the tins of mc² shelf. I want to stock up on them.
It says on the back of the package:
Energy (number) kJ.
A few swift calculations and you arrive at how much mass is converted to energy when your embodiment processes the content into excursions of Power to Will:
YOLO! 🎊 🎉
Hypers gonna hyper!
MOARons gonna moaron!
(etc.)
🛸💨💨💨 🌎 💥☄️☄️☄️☀️
🤣👍👍
No such thing as energy. And we don’t really know what gravity is anyway – we just know how it works.
Yes. Gravity must be viewed as an “ effect” and not a force. Indeed gravity is in fact the 5 th dimension. We live within an all encompassing gravitation phenomena but we don’t “ see it” much like a fish doesn’t “see” water.
This ultimately has ramifications regarding quantum field theory and entanglement of “ disparate particles”……no woo-woo needed.
The simulacrum is a wondrously devious construct.
We know exactly what gravity is, it is the bending of space-time by energy. Einstein’s general theory of relativity.
“We know exactly what gravity is, it is the bending of space-time by energy.”
So it’s an effect, as Cromagnon says. A by-product, an epiphenomenon. Not a thing in itself.
Energy is important because it is conserved in interactions and processes. Otherwise it would not be so important. what it is, specially since there are many forms of energy, is perhaps less important.
Atoms are held together by the positive and negative charges attracting each other, it has nothing to do with gravity.
Energy seems to be constantly added to the Universe. This is how it keeps growing and expanding. We are not running into problems with a cold, dark Universe.
I think that there really is a Higher Power, who is constantly adding energy. Creation is not a one-time event. It happens every time a person is born, or a plant grows. There is more order behind the system than any of us would have dreamed of.
By Design: Behe, Lennox, and Meyer on the Evidence for a Creator
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXexaVsvhCM
Michael Behe, John Lennox, and Steven Meyer are three of the leading voices in science and academia on the case for an intelligent designer of the universe and everything in it (including us).
In this wide-ranging conversation, they point out the flaws in Darwin’s theory and the increasing amount of evidence uncovered by a rigorous application of the scientific method that points to an intentional design and creation of the physical world.
When I die and they lay me to rest
Gonna go to the place that’s the best
When I lay me down to die
Goin’ up to the VIP Room in the sky
Goin’ up to the VIP Room in the sky
That’s where I’m gonna go when I die
When I die and they lay me to rest
Gonna go to the place that’s the best
Gas… drones… https://t.me/TommyRobinsonNews/44723
So the Ukeys put this up on the web afterwards cuz?
Who search for logic? Same reason they posted videos of shooting captured Russian soldiers in the legs and torsos.
*Why* search
Ugh. The fact that I edit my writing is cause for so many grammatical errors. I started with “Who needs logic?”
yes of course… why not publish video of more war crimes…
or maybe it’s just video game footage…
Scammers are using video games to fake footage of war in Ukraine and the China Eastern Airlines plane crash
e.g. https://news.yahoo.com/scammers-using-video-games-fake-202955083.html
scammers = CIA?
How many times do they have to be caught faking stuff … before people realize …
To instill fear in the enemy.
And advertise that they have committed a war crime… makes sense
the Russians could destroy the entire Ukey military in a week – but for some reason they don’t
and they continue to feed oil and gas to their enemies…
strange
Russia makes the same mistake the US makes thinking the military is for social work. There are only two things the military can do kill people and destroy stuff. Why Russia has not destroyed the electrical system, water system, sewage system, major bridges, communications centers, food storage, airports is a mystery to me.
Life is basically normal from the video clips I have seen of the cities… I guess the Russians don’t have the tech to take out any of the infrastructure to make life difficult for the Ukeys.
Or maybe they just want to be polite?
Or maybe it’s all faked or mostly faked?
The Russians seem to fear flying in Ukraine. They should at the late stage be saturation bombing Kiev but no.
The story of how the US/Israel are defending Ukraine air space would make a good next story for Hersch.
Ed, why would they bomb the city when the soldiers are coming to meet them in Bakhmut and other cities in the east?
Bombing civilian areas indiscriminately would turn the Global South against them. They’re not the US, they can’t just level everything and tell everyone who doesn’t like it to stfu without consequences.
You don’t have to bomb civilians… you just take out all the infrastructure bit by bit till they can no longer fight.
Smart bombs. The US does it all the time
Check out the movie Syriana
ivan yes I am falling into American think. Bomb them. If that does not work bomb them with bigger bombs and more of them. repeat as needed.
Ed, perhaps you have been subliminally influenced by John McCain?
“ivan yes I am falling into American think. Bomb them. If that does not work bomb them with bigger bombs and more of them. repeat as needed.”
Ed.
If you truly want to love big brother you must not grumble when you are selected for consumption. That should be your most joyous moment! Your love for big brother is superficial at best. Work on it.
“The Russians seem to fear flying in Ukraine. They should at the late stage be saturation bombing Kiev but no.
The story of how the US/Israel are defending Ukraine air space would make a good next story for Hersch.”
We just dont know. Apparently the SU-57 cant operate in Ukraine for the magic air power magic. Stealth removes air defense allowing non stealth heavyweights to obliterate fortifications. Would the F-35 do better? One way to find out.
The USA airforce modifying transport aircraft for standoff ordnance is big hint at what they think.
Macgregor says satellite coordinated with precision weapons is the future. Makes sense to me. Now there is a hole. There are no big precision missiles with big bunker buster ordnance because the old turbo props were supposed to deliver that. That will change given enough time before WW3. In the meantime traditional earthen fortifications have regained value. IMO this is here to stay. A week with an excavator is way cheaper than a big precision guided missile.
IMO inexpensive gravity ordnance is extinct.
The Russians are stalled at the well designed fortifications eight years in the making. Progress is slow. Slowly they try to untie the knot.
USA AFU training facilities brought active personnel from 100k to 250k in eight years. Ukraine has a long military history. No one can dispute AFU tenacity at this point. The eight years of fortifications are well designed and manned by capable and motivated troops although the fact is a lot of the best are dead. Ukrainian casualty counts are disputed but some put it at that 250k. Pouring bodies into meat grinders didnt help.
Trench warfare is back! Joy!
This will not be over if and when Ukraine falls. Russia will continue to be encircled with a DMZ armed to the teeth. Poland becomes the new Ukraine fully protected by the magic amulet of article 5. Russia accelerates its nuclear weapon system and nuclear air/satelite defense production with what resouces it has. The nuclear arms race is just starting unlike any we have ever seen. All arms control is over. The close calls of the past will become realities in the future even if intentional apocalypse is not instituted.
The endings
Russia launches
USA launches
Russia collapses (russia launches)
USA collapses(USA launches)
The argument that the militaries will not launch is total and complete horseshit.
OMF789ingGod (OMFG)
Look at the photo of his legs… or not… you can’t unsee it:
The Flu caused his legs to be amputated??
Willington FC Footballer that went to the hospital with ‘flu symptoms’ has had both of his legs amputated just days before his 21st birthday.
“He suffered multiple organ failure after catching ‘a form of the flu’.”
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/footballer-legs-amputated-flu-symptoms-sepsis-b2273331.html
https://twitter.com/storiesofinjury/status/1622807769031262208?s=21&t=Yzz63NUBEqcK3-QvFYnljA
“He suffered multiple organ failure after catching ‘a form of the flu’.”
Initial failure was between the ears.
Multiple organ failure followed quickly thereafter.
Probably a job for him at Tesla as a crash test dummy.
Aren’t we all Big Pharma’s crash-test dummies?
His case also proves that brain-death needn’t be the end, which is encouraging….
I know someone who nearly lost her arms and legs to sepsis after getting vaxxed. They don’t think it was the vaccine though.
Of course not. It’s never the vaccine because Fauci and Bourla have told us how safe and effective they are.
No of course not the vax is safe – we all know that
Probably blood clots
I wonder if they fed his legs to the pigs after sawing them off.
I wonder why he is smiling – oh I know — he was an average volleyball player but now that he has not legs the competition for the national disabled team is not very stiff… and he’s got a spot. right norm?
Imagine the horror of that … if you acknowledged it was the vax.
Bacterial and fungal infections are so awful. I do not want humanity to go back to a time without antibiotics and antifungals.
You get killed by a tiger? Fine, so be it. Relatively quick. But these microscopic bastards that slowly eat you alive starting with something as minor as a scratch? Terrible.
Worse than this?
https://t.me/leaklive/11666
https://cubeoftruth.com/av
I don’t know, it’s a close call either way.
Where does this rank?
“tranq” Xylazine has increased in Philly. It now detected as a co actor in 38% of narcotic overdoses.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/nCZi7nJvovXD/
jeeze man, i did not expect that. i thought it was just your typical homeless video and then i saw those arms. yeesh.
where are the internet censors when you actually want them? 🙂
Did you notice a bandage had slipped down his leg to his ankle? Whats under clothing? What percentage of skin loss is fatal? Im guessing 5% skin loss just from what is not under clothing.
IMO not a very fun game.
You know doctors get exposed to a lot of narcotic access Ivan.
But there’s always well-justified suicide: no need at all to endure drawn-out agony – a terrible prospect, I agree.
Hahaha… well they are MORE-ONS… why not https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/kitten-corner-follow-the-science
Doesn’t Portugal have one of the highest rates of unexpected deaths?
Yes, there was a strong increase in emergency room visits to hospitals in 2022, and also an excess of mortality, but not very marked so far.
https://www.portugalresident.com/excess-deaths-2022-registered-15000-more-deaths-than-authorities-expected/
“Emergency services in the Algarve assisted a total of 580,814 people last year, an increase of 25% compared to 2021”
https://observador.pt/2023/01/25/atendimento-nas-urgencias-do-algarve-aumentou-25-em-2022/
If the injections are a depopulating agent, their effect is obviously slow.
Or maybe the country, out of deference to the puppet Guterres, received a batch of injections with a lower concentration of graphene?
Only time will tell.
Maria Leptin
https://erc.europa.eu/erc_member/maria-leptin
In Italy we had the double approach, as indicated by Mrs. Leptin.
We had the Pope who explained to the believers how to behave (like Bhutan) and we had also General Figliuolo gave orders to the population (like Portugal).
https://www.vaticannews.va/it/papa/news/2021-08/videomessaggio-sulle-vaccinazioni.html
https://www.elle.com/it/magazine/interviste/a35909489/francesco-figliuolo-chi-e/
Talk at World Economic Forum:
“Portugal had a very high vaccination rate. It appointed a military leader to lead the fight. No Science!”
If Portugal has a high death rate, it seems to be in the 85+ population:
https://ourworldindata.org/search?q=excess+deaths+by+age+group
Flu vaccines are for re tar ded f789wits
and more
https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/dr-anthony-fauci-now-admits-the-mrna
Yosh… did you say ‘child refugees?’ Any …’alter boys’
norm would like to take in half a dozen young lads… he’ll show them how to operate a Rayburn …
COVID “Vaccination” Increases Risk of Being in Hospital or ICU “With COVID” by 70% but Makes Little Difference (at best) to Death
https://metatron.substack.com/p/covid-vaccination-increases-risk
This means it works right norm?
Thank you for the good updates