The Fed Cannot Fix Today’s Energy Inflation Problem

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There is a reason for raising interest rates to try to fight inflation. This approach tends to squeeze out the most marginal players in the economy. Such businesses and governments tend to collapse, as interest rates rise, leaving less “demand” for oil and other energy products. The institutions that are squeezed out range from small businesses to financial institutions to governmental organizations. The lower demand tends to reduce inflationary pressure.

The amount of goods and services that the world’s economy can produce is largely determined by fossil fuel supplies, plus our ability to use “complexity” in many forms to produce the items that the world’s growing population requires. Adding debt helps add complexity of various types, such as more international trade, more advanced education, and more specialized tools. For a while, the combination of growing energy supplies and growing complexity have helped pull economies along.

Unfortunately, the world’s oil supply is no longer growing. Without an adequate oil supply, it becomes difficult to maintain complexity because complex solutions, such as international trade, require adequate oil supplies. Inasmuch as we seem to be reaching energy and complexity limits, nothing the regulators try to do to change the debt and money supplies–even reeling them back in–can fix the underlying oil (and total energy) problem.

I expect that the rich parts of the world, including the US, Europe, and Japan, are in line to be adversely affected by high interest rates this time. With their high levels of complexity, they are among the most vulnerable to disruption when there is not enough oil to go around.

Figure 1. World oil consumption divided into consuming areas, based on data of BP’s 2022 Statistical Review of World Energy. Europe excludes Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, and Ukraine.

The problem I see is that rich countries expect to maintain service economies that are fed by huge streams of manufactured goods and raw materials from poorer countries. This pattern appears unsustainable to me, in a world with falling exports because of energy problems.

I expect a significant change in the trading of goods and services, starting as soon as the next few months. Major financial changes may be ahead, fairly soon, as well. In this post, I will try to explain these and related ideas.

[1] Growing debt is a temporary substitute for growing energy supply of the right kinds.

Economists seem to believe that the economy grows because of an invisible hand. I believe that the economy grows because of a growing supply of energy products of the right kinds, together with a growing supply of other raw materials, and a growing supply of human labor. The economy grows in keeping with the laws of physics.

Debt does help provide an extra pull, however, because it enables growing “complexity.” Even in the days of hunters and gathers, it was helpful for people to work together and share the benefit of their labor. A type of short-term debt results from the delayed benefit of working together, even if the delay is only a few hours.

In modern times, debt can help build a factory. The factory can provide more/better output than individual people working by themselves using available resources. There needs to be a way of paying for the delayed benefit of the human labor involved in the whole chain of events that leads to the finished output. Growing debt can help pay workers, long before the benefit of the factory becomes available.

Debt can also make high-priced goods more affordable. A car, or a home, or a college education is more affordable if it can be paid for in installments, as income becomes available to pay for it.

[2] Diminishing returns on added complexity is one issue that puts an end to the ability to grow debt.

As an example, we are slowly discovering that it doesn’t make sense to provide everyone with a university education. Yes, advanced education is of benefit to a percentage of the population, but, in general, there are not enough jobs that pay sufficiently well for it to make economic sense to provide advanced education for everyone who would like to attend college. If debt is provided to finance everyone who applies for advanced education, there are likely to be many loans that can’t be repaid.

As another example, long supply lines can provide cost savings for a manufacturer, but if there is a disruption in any necessary raw material, the whole manufacturing operation may need to be temporarily suspended. The high cost of such a suspension may encourage shorter supply lines or the provision of more stored inventory.

[3] US total debt as a percentage of GDP already seems to be hitting a limit, quite possibly related to diminishing returns on added complexity.

Figure 2. Ratio of US total debt for all sectors to GDP in a chart by the Federal Reserve of St. Louis. Amounts are on a quarterly basis, through 2022.

Figure 2 shows that the US ratio of debt to GDP started increasing shortly after 1980. This was about the time that Ronald Reagan became President in the United States, and Margaret Thatcher became Prime Minister in the UK. There was a need to get energy costs down, and growing debt was one of the tools used to accomplish this. With added debt, new types of hopefully less expensive electricity generation could be added, using debt. Electricity producers were encouraged to compete with each other. The new approach led to less concern about providing adequate upkeep for transmission lines. California is one state where this approach is starting to catch up with the electricity system. Costs are rising, and reliability is falling.

Figure 2 shows that the ratio of US debt to GDP hit a maximum in 2008. An even loftier level was reached in 2020 because of the debt added at the time of Covid-related shutdowns. Now, however, the system doesn’t seem to be able to maintain the high debt level. The quarterly analysis used in Figure 2 highlights how quickly the added debt rolled off.

Analyzing US debt to GDP ratios by sector provides some insight regarding the reason for the fall in the ratio of debt to GDP since 2008 in Figure 2. (The amounts used in Figure 3 are on an annual basis, rather than a quarterly basis, so the shape of the graph is a little different from that in Figure 2.)

Figure 3. Annual data showing US ratios of debt to GDP by sector. Amounts for debt from Households (which includes not-for-profits, such as churches), Business Non-Financial, and Federal Government are from the Federal Reserve of St. Louis database. Financial+ is calculated by subtraction. Financial+ will also include other small categories, such as the debt of state and local governments.

Figure 3 shows that the category I call Financial+ Debt has played an amazingly large role in the growth of total debt. One of the issues bringing about the 2008-2009 Great Recession was defaults related to Collateralized Debt Obligations (CDOs) and Collateralized Debt Swaps (CDSs), involving debt that had been cut into layers and resold. Various tranches of this debt would then default, as the economy slowed. It became clear that this approach to adding debt is very risky. The elimination of some of this type of debt is likely one of the reasons for the drop-off in Financial+ debt after 2008.

It also becomes clear that there are interactions among the different types of debt. Back in 1947, Federal Debt related to World War II had begun dropping off. To provide civilian jobs for all the people who had served in the war effort, it was helpful to add other debt. More recently, the big run-up in debt of the Federal Government seems to have taken place partly to try to offset the huge loss of debt in the Financial+ category.

Figure 4 shows the gross debt of the Federal Government, relative to GDP, on an annual basis.

Figure 4. Gross Federal Debt as a Percentage of GDP, on an annual basis, in a chart prepared by the Federal Reserve of St. Louis. Amounts are through 2022.

The gross debt of the Federal Government is now at a higher level than it was when the Federal Government borrowed money to fight World War II! Part of the rise may very well be the need to keep total indebtedness high, to prop up the economic system in general, and energy prices in particular.

[4] In previous posts, I have shown that oil prices seem to be very sensitive to manipulations of the Federal Reserve.

In Figure 5, below, I also make the point that the popping of a debt bubble can cause oil prices to fall precipitously. With the high level of debt that the world economy has today, major defaults are a worry. Because of this concern, central banks today seem willing to bend over backwards to prop up failing banks. If a substantial number of banks are propped up, this will add to inflationary pressure.

Figure 5. Figure I prepared in early 2021, based on EIA monthly Brent Crude Oil spot oil prices, together with notes added at that time.

Another point that Figure 5 makes is the importance of high oil prices for producers, and the importance of low oil prices for customers. A big part of today’s conflict with respect to oil supply has to do with the affordability of the oil supply, and the fact that such affordable prices for consumers tend to be too low for producers. For example, the European union has attempted to pay Russia for oil at $60 per barrel, partly to hurt Russia, but also to try to bring costs down to a more affordable level. Oil producers tend to cut back supply, as OPEC has recently agreed to do, when prices fall too low.

[5] One thing that people forget in trying to find substitutes for oil is that any substitute must be inexpensive if it is to be affordable. They also forget that they need to consider the cost of required changes to the entire system in any cost estimate.

We often see cost estimates for wind energy and solar energy that consider only the cost of the generation of intermittent electricity. Unfortunately, an economy cannot operate on intermittent electricity. At this point, there isn’t even a single island that can operate its electricity system solely on renewables (including hydroelectric energy, in addition to wind and solar).

In theory, a very high-cost electricity system could be put together using some combination of long-distance transmission lines, batteries, and overbuilding, to try to have enough electricity available for periods of long periods of low electricity generation. But even this would not fix the problem that arises because the world’s agricultural system is mostly powered by oil, not electricity. We cannot get along without food.

If electricity were to be used for the agricultural system, at a minimum, we would need to figure out how to transition all the machines used in fields to use electricity, rather than oil. We would also need to figure out what to do about products that are manufactured using the chemical products that we get from oil, such as herbicides and pesticides. Natural gas or coal is often used to produce ammonia fertilizer. If all fossil fuels are eliminated, a new approach to ammonia production would be needed, as well.

[6] Natural gas cannot be counted on as an inexpensive fuel for a transition to renewables.

Some people hope that a ramp up in natural gas production can be used to help substitute for oil, and thus aid in any transition. A problem that many people are not aware of is the fact that shipping natural gas over long distances as liquified natural gas (LNG) is very expensive. A calculation I saw a few years ago indicated that when LNG was shipped from the US to Europe, adding shipping costs roughly tripled the cost of the natural gas.

Part of the high-cost problem is the need for a huge amount of infrastructure. Natural gas sold as LNG must be compressed, transported at very low temperatures in specially made ships, and then brought back to a gaseous state at the other end. Pipelines are needed at both ends. There is also a need for inter-seasonal natural gas storage because natural gas is often used for heating in winter.

With this huge amount of infrastructure, there is a need for debt to finance all the pieces. When interest rates increase, the result is particularly expensive for those planning to produce LNG for overseas shipment. Such high overhead costs are likely to discourage the building of new LNG export facilities unless long-term contracts at high prices can be obtained in advance.

[7] A huge amount of today’s debt relates to plans to transition to renewables. If these plans cannot work, many debt defaults are certain.

Almost certainly, massive amounts of debt obligations are destined for default if the transition to renewable energy is not successful. The very existence of such liabilities can be expected to lead to widespread problems. Some of this debt will be held by banks; other debt has been issued as bonds or by derivative financial instruments. Pension funds would be badly affected by bond defaults. Derivative financial instruments are likely of many types. Some seem to back exchange traded funds (ETFs).

Young people who have spent thousands of dollars to pursue specialized degrees in fields directly or indirectly related to renewable energy will find that their investment has mostly been wasted. They will not be able to repay their student loans, a large proportion of which is owed to the US Federal Government.

[8] In fact, student loans in general are likely to be a problem for repayment.

The problem with student debt extends beyond students who obtained their training planning to go into the field of renewable energy. In fact, many former students in fields other than renewable energy are already finding that they cannot repay their student loans because there are not enough jobs available that pay sufficiently high compensation. Also, some individuals who took out the loans were not able to finish their courses of study, so they did not gain the skills needed to secure higher-paying jobs. These individuals, in particular, have problems with repayment.

Figure 6. Comparison of the amount of student loans owed to the Federal Government, with the amount of motor vehicle loans, owned and securitized, by financial institutions. Chart by Federal Reserve of St. Louis.

Figure 6 shows that, in total, the amount of student loans debts owed to the Federal Government is about equal to the debt outstanding on motor vehicle loans. Since Covid began, there has been forbearance in debt repayment, but this is likely to end later in 2023. There seems to be a significant chance of defaults starting when this forbearance ends.

It might be noted that there are more student loans outstanding than shown on Figure 6. Besides loans made by the Federal Government, there are also bank loans, amounting to a smaller total.

[9] Falling interest rates since 1980 seem to have played a major role in allowing the US economy to stay on the growth track it has been on.

Up until about 1979, the US economy grew about as quickly as oil consumption, and, in fact, as growth in total energy consumption. Since 1979, the US economy seems to have grown a little more quickly than consumption of oil or of energy of all types combined.

Figure 7. Three-year average growth in real (inflation-adjusted) GDP, based on US BEA data, compared to three-year average growth in oil consumption and total energy consumption, based on US EIA data.

The strange thing that happened around 1979-1981 was a peaking of interest rates on US Treasuries. As I will explain, it was these falling interest rates that indirectly allowed inflation-adjusted GDP to grow faster than oil or total energy consumption.

Figure 8. Ten-year and three-month interest rates on US Treasuries through March 27, 2023, in a chart by the Federal Reserve of St. Louis.

Figure 7 shows that during the period 1952 to 1979, consumption of both oil and total energy were (with short interruptions) growing rapidly. The extra oil and other energy could be used to leverage human labor. Thus, productivity could be expected to grow. In fact, the Fed chose to raise interest rates to slow the economy during this period, based on Figure 8.

Higher interest rates on debt would be expected to make monthly payments for buying a home or car more expensive. They would also tend to hold down prices of assets, such as homes or shares of stock, discouraging speculators from trying to make money by investing in homes or shares of stock.

Most of the time since 1980, interest rates have tended to fall. Falling interest rates can be expected to have the opposite effect: They reduce monthly payments for items bought on credit. Because they make homes and factories more affordable, they tend to raise asset values. Also, the existence of more debt encourages more complexity, such as in cases where a large company purchases a smaller one, using debt. Also, as asset prices rise (for example, a rising home price), leaving more equity, there is the temptation to borrow against the newly available equity to buy something else (for example, home furnishings or a boat). Thus, falling interest rates tend to pull the economy forward.

I believe that the indirect impacts of falling interest rates are behind the huge growth in debt, especially in the Financial+ category, seen in Figure 3. This debt looks likely to hit even worse default problems than happened in the 2008 era, if interest rates remain high, or rise to even higher levels.

Furthermore, without the support of growing debt, GDP growth is likely to fall back to being equal to the growth in energy or oil supply. If a loss of complexity starts occurring, GDP growth could even start to be smaller than growth in energy or oil supply. Of course, if shrinkage of energy consumption occurs, economies can be expected to contract.

[10] Poorer nations will be able to consume much more oil for themselves if they can push down the consumption in areas that use oil heavily, such as the US, Europe, and Japan.

Figure 9. Oil consumption per capita for the areas shown, based on data of BP’s 2022 Statistical Review of World Energy. Europe excludes Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, and Ukraine.

With their high per capita oil consumption, the combined oil consumption of Europe, Japan, and the United States amounted to almost 38% of total oil consumption in 2021. This can be seen on Figure 1. If this consumption could be brought to zero, the rest of the world could consume about 60% more than they would otherwise.

Of course, the US currently produces most of its own oil, so its oil cannot be obtained unless the US economy collapses to such an extent that it cannot access the oil that it now extracts and refines. As indicated in the introduction to this post, the US is very dependent upon imported goods. Even goods used in the extraction of oil, such as steel pipe used to drill wells, and computers, are imported. Furthermore, whether or not problems with imported goods occur, financial problems seem likely in the near future, either caused by collapsing debt, or by the issuance of excessive new governmental debt to try to offset the problem of collapsing debt. Such financial problems are likely to make imports of required foreign goods difficult. Problems such as these might be one way the US loses access to its own oil.

A loss in a “hot” war could also reduce the ability of the US to access its own oil. Poor countries most likely covet the US’s oil resources. In my opinion, the more oil the US leaves in the ground related to climate concerns, the more vulnerable the US becomes to other countries’ trying to access its resources. For most of the world, adequate food supply has priority over climate concerns.

If total world oil supply is shrinking, as seems likely with OPEC cutting its output, poorer countries around the world are now becoming concerned about finding workarounds for this expected oil supply shortfall. One workaround would be for oil exporting countries to reduce their exports to countries that are not their close allies. Another approach would be for the poorer nations of the world to reduce the quantity of oil now used for international transport by cutting back on exports of all types of goods to richer counties.

Changes to the international financial system may be very near. There are now stories about greater cooperation among countries of the Middle East and China. There are also stories about moving away from the US dollar for trade.

[11] I have written in the past about the world self-organizing economy being built up in layers and being hollow inside. We can imagine the loss of Europe, and perhaps the United States and Japan, as being rather like an avalanche, removing some unsustainable parts of the system.

Our economy is a physics-based self-organizing system that looks as if it could keep growing forever.

Figure 12. Figure by Gail Tverberg demonstrating how the world economy grows.

As the economy grows, new businesses are added. We can envision them as new layers, added on top of existing businesses. The growing consumer (and worker) base helps push this growth along. At the same time, unneeded products and businesses tend to fall away, making the center of the structure hollow. For example, the world economy no longer makes many buggy whips, since horses and buggies are no longer the primary means of transportation.

Built into this system are financial and regulatory structures, operated by banks and governments. When the rate of growth of the energy supply is constrained, the system starts encountering more debt defaults and banking crises. I think that this is where we are today.

In a way, the economy with all its debt is like a Ponzi Scheme. It depends on a growing supply of energy and other resources to continue to be able to pay back its debt with interest. The higher the interest rate, the more difficult it is to keep the whole arrangement operating.

Something will have to “give,” as the growth in oil supply turns to shrinkage. In theory, what is lost could be the operation of the whole world economy, but the system does seem to hold together, to the extent that it can, if adequate energy supply exists for even part of the global economy. That is why I think that the near-term result may be more of an avalanche than a complete collapse.

We don’t know exactly what lies ahead, but the situation does look worrying.

About Gail Tverberg

My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
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4,007 Responses to The Fed Cannot Fix Today’s Energy Inflation Problem

  1. Student says:

    (Byoblu + Spain’s state meteorological agency AEMET)

    ”Spain’s state meteorological agency AEMET published an article on its website on April 10 entitled, “Artificial Climate Modification. Status of artificial weather modification worldwide.

    The text highlights the fact that “currently, more than 50 countries carry out activities on artificial weather modification.” , the results of these experiments would be found in the periodic reports made by the Expert Committee of the World Meteorological Organization (WMO). “These activities,” the AEMET website reads, “are aimed at moderately increasing precipitation, reducing the size of hail and the damage caused, and dispersing fog locally.”
    (deepl.com translated)

    https://www.byoblu.com/2023/04/23/geoingegneria-piu-di-50-stati-manipolano-il-clima-lo-rivela-lagenzia-meteorologica-spagnola/

    https://www.aemet.es/es/conocermas/modificacion_artificial_tiempo

    • Student says:

      As we have experiencing extreme drought in Italy during the last years and also in some other European Countries has happened the same, it would be interesting to know if the total rainfall has been equal and, maybe, what has changed has been its geographical distribution.

    • I can understand why local areas would like to change the weather more to their liking. It rains too much or too little. The temperature freezes crops at inconvenient times. It is another use for our energy supplies and our complexity.

      • Student says:

        (FT)

        (I know the business sector, Spanish olive oil is one of the main sources of cooking olive oil for Southern Europe)

        ”No rain in Spain pushes olive oil prices to record levels”

        https://www.ft.com/content/9e37accd-dbbc-4681-8811-2431b4741765

        • Lack of Spanish olive oil doesn’t sound good!

          Spain seems to be the largest producer of olive oil in the world, according to this chart, and the numbers given below. The US produces barely any olive oil.
          https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/olive-oil-production-by-country

          • Wolfbay says:

            Some farmers are planting olive trees in the southeast to try to increase US olive production. I thinks it’s especially true in your area(Georgia).

            • Several years ago, I tried growing an olive tree that was advertised as being especially cold-tolerant. The tree died, either the first or second winter after we planted it, when the temperature dropped to something like 20 degrees F (-7 degrees C).

              Of course, I live in North Georgia. South Georgia is quite a bit warmer. It is possible they would grow there.

          • Student says:

            Thank you for the data Gail.

            We have great experience of olive trees in Italy and I personally planted various olive trees in my parents’ house in the centre of Italy.

            It is actually like you say, unfortunately it cannot tolerate too cold during winter, while is very resistant to drought and scarce water.

            It is only delicate in the first 3/4 years.

            It is considered a sacre tree for Christians, Jews, Muslims and it was also important for Ancient Romans, Ancient Greeks and various middle east previous cultures.

            It needs very little external help.

            My relatives of the south also have a little land with ancient secular trees planted by their ancestors who planted some Carob trees scattered randomly, because their ancestors used to say that Carob and Olive tree are good friends.

            The reason is that they probably interact with mutual insects of different species for the help of one another.

            Their ancestors also used to make circle with stones around the olive tree in order to create a sort of better humid system in order to help the tree to survive during possible extreme heat.

            My relatives eat olives preserved under olive oil for all year long and they produce their own olive oil.

  2. Fast Eddy says:

    hahahahahahaahahaha what could it be?

    https://t.me/leaklive/13766

  3. Fast Eddy says:

    “Secret CDC Report confirms over 1.1m Americans have ‘Died Suddenly’ since the COVID Vaccine Roll-Out.”

    “Further Government reports [from the UK] confirm the “vaccines” are to blame.”

    https://metatron.substack.com/p/secret-cdc-report-confirms-over-11m

  4. Fast Eddy says:

    RFK Jr: “Tony Fauci Knew That Remdesivir Would Kill You”

    “How does it kill you?” he asked. “Kidney failure, heart failure, and all-organ collapse.”

    “All the doctors said. You heard it again and again. ‘We’ve never seen a virus that attacks the kidneys.’ Because it wasn’t the virus; it was the remdesivir.”

    https://twitter.com/VigilantFox/status/1650126479227863043?s=20

    norm… remember this when you are in the ED… with severe covid due to your Rat Juiced immune system… when they ignore you and prep the injection of death… you will want to use that 100lb deadlifting power to fight them off.

    • Ed says:

      Fauci directed doctors to kill. Is there no rule of law?

      • Fast Eddy says:

        DOD is above the law.

        DOD is the law

        • Ed says:

          Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun (Chinese: 枪杆子里面出政权; pinyin: Qiānggǎnzi lǐmiàn chū zhèngquán) is a phrase which was coined by Chinese communist leader Mao Zedong.

          Where is Mao when you need him.

        • Ed says:

          Fauci has committed crimes against humanity. The U.S. government is as you say useless. It will take military action by the BRICS to bring Fauci to justice. Delhi the site of the trials of the worlds wayward health officials and politicians.

  5. Fast Eddy says:

    Send your kid to be raped/groomed by the drugged up tranny freaks?
    https://palexander.substack.com/p/urgent-breaking-all-parents-who-want

  6. Ed says:

    Since the Georgia Guidestones are no more it is time for
    OFW Guidestones
    to be erected in Norway
    1) limit humans to 80,000,000
    2) place industry off planet
    3) limit human use to 20% of the land
    and ????

    • 4) Limit medical care to 5% of GDP
      5) Limit education to what can provided free of charge to all children
      6) Provide jubilee for all debt every 25 years

      • Ed says:

        🙂

      • Lidia17 says:

        The idea of measuring GDP and organizing calculations and applying regulations would not be a feature of the near-future finite world.

        • Perhaps measured as a percentage of people making their livings as midwives and other related health professionals, for example. Other people should not have to pay them exorbitant fees relative to what they themselves are earning.

          • Hubbs says:

            Everyone wants the best medical care provided by doctors who have gone through four years undergrad, four years medical school, five years internship and residency and passed all of their exams and specialty boards, etc.

            Plumbers and electricians and HVAC technicians etc brag how much money they can make from just a few semesters of vocational training and practically ridicule anyone who goes through 4 years of college, but then resent the fact that physicians command much higher pay because of all the time, training, sacrifice they have gone through.

            The real problem is, the money changers, the useless parasitic corporations, had orgasms when they saw all the money generated by doctors, and doctors, like the true wimps they are, despite how much they were willing to work, sacrifice, and postpone the best years of their lives, were so afraid of loosing a buck that they gave away their profession to these thieving parasitic scum.

            So I am glad nobody trusts doctors. Once I saw the genome sequence derived from splicing into the furin cleavage site almost 3 yrs ago, I knew this COVID and VAXx crap was a hoax. But it no longer mattered since At that time I could no longer practice. I had been squeezed out 5 yrs ago..

            so Americans , you all deserve to die! When I was in rural Philippines, Africa, India, Ecuador etc, people would be grateful for whatever medical they could get, walk miles to a clinic and wait for hours, sometimes days.

            But not Americans. We Americans want the most expensive, the most advanced technology, to spare no expense, and we want it now and we don’t want to pay for it. And if the doctor or hospital makes a mistake, we want to be able to sue them for all they’ve got! And the fact that we smoke, drink to excess, are obese and get no exercise is no excuse.

            I go to the YMCA 6 days a week and all I see now are these fat f*cks, mostly women, who just sit on the benches or machines for 15 on their cell phone. Back in my college wrestling and bodybuilding days, if a guy camped out on a bench we would wrap a 45 lb bar around his neck and tell him the rest room is in the locker room.

            It’s like lawyers. The old adage: Everyone hates lawyers until they need one, but for the first time in my life (nearly a dozen lawyers)when I refused to retain an attorney, the Assistant DA quietly called out my name, approached me and said my case had been dismissed. Lawyers are held to ZERO standards of competence. So are the judges.

            In contrast, doctors get sued all the time and are presumed to be liable for injury caused by medical malpractice until proven otherwise. And when found not liable, nary a peep reported in the papers as the doctor’s reputation remains trashed.

            My Medical Legal Back Pages. Archway.
            Grrr.
            Solutions?

            End the FED which enables a fractional reserve fiat system which enables politicians to pay (through borrowing) for promises that get them re elected, then to become magnets for corporate influence money and from there, a fascist system. This is a huge enabler of wars and the MIC. Can’t fight a war unless you go into debt.

            Repeal the 19th amendment. Our founding fathers knew what they were doing by denying women the right to vote.

            The best way to explain is the analogy on the Serengeti. Female lionesses can not defend a territory. It is up to the male who faces either expulsion or death if he can not defend the territory of the pride. A certain amount of territory is necessary to provide adequate prey to feed the pride, and the territory has to be defended to the death. If the male lion loses to another male challenger that challenger will kill all the cubs of the pride so as to bring the lionesses back into heat.

            Just as each male lion must defend its territory, each country needs to defend its borders and sovereignty, not just letting mass illegal alien invasion across the borders. Men, not AOC type bimbos are needed.

            Women’s instincts are to nurture and raise offspring, not to go out and fight wars or go into politics. Women have a liberal bias- their instinct is to nurture, or to vote for the politician who promises free sh*t to all those babies. This is why the founding fathers did not want women to have the right to vote. Women’s suffrage is the first step to collectivism- socialism —all this wealth transfer in exchange for votes.

            Just as doctors have given away their profession, the politicians have given away our country. For a few bucks they have been obedient useful idiot errand boys for the Globalists/oligarchs. Trump, Biden, it makes no difference. You are all sadly mistaken if you think there is any political, legal or even constitutional remedy for what awaits us. We have no way of addressing the gradual depletion of resources and energy if we do not have honest money, honest media, honest rule of law, and honest elections. We have none of these four essentials.

            Rant off.

            • I have been a fan of Kaiser Permanente for many years (except that they also have been pushing COVID vaccines). You can get care close to immediately, whatever your problem, and they always follow up after tests.

              You pay a fee in advance, and it covers nearly all your care. The doctors are often foreign educated. Quite often they are of color. The cost of Kaiser coverage tends to be quite a lot lower than other medical coverage.

              Kaiser has quite a number of specialists on its staff. For the specialists they don’t have on the staff, they give you a referral to outside groups. An awfully lot of people look down on Kaiser care, but I am pretty sure that their outcomes are still very good.

            • Ed says:

              Hubbs, great post. Massive amount of excellent ideas. Please post about a dozen times breaking this down in smaller pieces.

              Your piece was the first good reason for not allowing women to vote that I have read.

              No solution or ? Not “any political, legal or even constitutional remedy”.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Why would anyone bother to vote?

            • ivanislav says:

              You echo some of my own thoughts. I won’t say which parts – one never knows when the internet may come back to bite you.

          • reante says:

            If this wasn’t your house some folks around here might call you a pinko for holding such views. Myself, I agree.

        • Tim Groves says:

          7) Limit guidestones to one set per continent
          8) No bathing in abandoned spent fuel ponds

    • drb753 says:

      OFW guidelines is a completely hand off approach. Let them die until there are sufficient resources for each survivor. one great advantage is that no one needs to waste any energy or time on it.

      • but will you be the one to

        ”let people die”?

        what happens when it’s someone related to you being ”allowed to die”

        just asking

        • drb753 says:

          Hey, I came to Russia and bought an uninhabited village for those who want to come. I am doing something. But generally speaking yes, what is happening is unstoppable, so I will not try to stop it.

          • Retired Librarian says:

            Have others joined your village?

            • drb753 says:

              Of course not. things are not dire yet in the West. there are, IIRC, seven buildable lots, electricity, a working village well. No road, and that will cost some money to make. One middle aged woman and her elderly mother inhabit the village in summer, no one in winter. People who do come from the West find accommodations in nearby villages. I too live nearby.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              I’ll join but only if we can bring in some really hot Siberian girls for the VIP room.

          • ivanislav says:

            They just let you buy a village?

            I wouldn’t even know where to begin from a legal perspective in a foreign country.

          • Ed says:

            I am interested. Gail can give you my email.

            • Ed says:

              drb753 your service provider keeps bouncing my email

            • drb753 says:

              It is working properly from another russian email. try getting a mail.ru account and write from there. I usually look at it weekly but I will look at it daily.

            • drb753 says:

              suggested procedure 1) get mail.ru acct 2) test it by emailing some acct 3) try again email I gave (which as you can see is an english sentence).

            • drb753 says:

              if and when you get a mail.ru account, the interface will be in russian. when you get into the inbox (входящие) down and to the left there is a settings button. choose your язык accordingly and you will have an english interface. not sure why it is not mailing for you but there are many internet restrictions these days. VPNs do not work unless you manually connect for example.

          • Jan says:

            Interesting approach!

          • Tim Groves says:

            We have abandoned villages in Japan too, and in Italy and Spain. But I haven’t seen any on the market. In Japan, ownership is usually complicated by dozens of absentee landowners who aren’t even sure of the extent of their properties. There are no serious plans to repopulate these places.

            • drb753 says:

              I agree. Specially in Italy and Spain, it would be expensive but possible to buy a hamlet. then rebuilding is going to be tricky because it is a lot easier to knock down wooden houses.

      • Ed says:

        OFW Guidestones only become useful after the die off you suggest. They are not intended to be the route to the promised land rather a description of what to do once humans get there. We will not cross over Jordan.

    • Jan says:

      Natural law and self-organising systems still exist. No need for humans to act like Gods or demons. Cultivate your human abilities, be nice, let people enjoy their lives, find solutions, prepare a little bit for a harsh winter! Make peace with the inevitable. Learn to say ‘no’, reduce complexity and stop voting for people that don’t do well!

  7. Ed says:

    Good stuff Eddy keep up the good work.

    https://www.theflstandard.com/top-insurance-analyst-600-000-americans-per-year-are-dying-from-covid-shots/

    @DowdEdward

    The Florida Standard (https://www.theflstandard.com/top-insurance-analyst-600-000-americans-per-year-are-dying-from-covid-shots/)
    600,000 Americans Per Year Are Dying From COVID Shots Says Top Insurance Analyst

    • We need to look at total mortality, going forward, to see what happens. The year 2022 was not as bad as 2021, at least in the US. It is easy to project the bad results for 2021 to a greater extent than should be the case.

      • Mirror on the wall says:

        Claims that covid jabs would massively reduce the global population seem to have preceded the evidence?

        Fake?

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Don’t be silly … the deaths so far are unintentionally … they’d rather have zero deaths while administering Phase One of the Binary Poison …

          But this stuff is seriously toxic… and some people will have a bad reaction

          The Real Deal comes with Phase Two.

          • Mirror on the wall says:

            So covid deaths hitherto, and reports of them, are completely irrelevant to the theory of a mass reduction of the global population through injections?

            The theory is a baseless prediction about the future, with no support from the past or the present, and that is complete unprovable in advance?

            It is just silly making stuff up?

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Correct.

              Culling the herd is not the intent… anyone with a bit of intelligence would understand that such a plan would collapse BAU and result in ROF. I will not explain why – if anyone can’t understand why then I recommend Super Fent.

              The Elders would prefer not deaths from the Rat Juice. Deaths and injuries inhibit uptake… but as pointed out this is a very dangerous substance + quality control is an issue when you are producing billions of doses..

              They knew this would happen and the PR Team is completely in control limiting the damage in terms of the uptake.

              The dying starts with Phase Two – The Binary Poison.

            • Mirror on the wall says:

              “The dying starts with Phase Two – The Binary Poison.”

              What are you on about?

            • Fast Eddy says:

              See the last few posts here https://www.headsupster.com/forumthread?shortId=220

        • I don’t think that the vaccines have massively reduced population. I think we need to be cautious about forecasting ahead, on very limited data.

          The United Nations put together out a world population forecast in 2022, taking into account at least some of the effects of the pandemic. In their view

          World population at 7/1 Increase over prior year
          2018 7 683 790 +1.07%
          2019 7 764 951 +1.03%
          2020 7 840 953 +0.92%
          2021 7 909 295 +0.82%
          2022 7 975 105 +0.84%

          For the USA, the reported increases over prior year were

          2018 +0.67%
          2019 +0.64%
          2020 +0.33%
          2021 +0.30%
          2022 +0.47%

          For Europe, the population change amounts are

          2018 +0.11%
          2019 +0.11%
          2020 -0.10%
          2021 -0.18%
          2022 -0.25%

          Of course, the USA and Europe amounts reflect immigration as well.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            This is not a cull.

            It’s extinction – when the time comes

            • We don’t really know. We do know that humans lived through the ice ages. We know that dissipative structures tend to be replaced by new similar dissipative structures. As long as there is energy to dissipate, some means to dissipate it will be found.

              It may very be that with a warmer climate, energy that is out of the reach of humans today can be dissipated. It may be that higher radiation levels are needed to encourage mutations that will allow some humans to live on a changing Earth. There are a lot of things we don’t know. Some people might think that these mutated humans should be called a different species; others will think that they are still humans, just with somewhat different abilities.

            • it might be a more accurate observation to say that humans moved out of the way of the ice, then moved back as it retreated

              there were so few of us.

              humans have always been able to live on the edges of ice, because good food sources lived in water….the ice interior is just a barren desrt, offering little or no sustenance

            • Fast Eddy says:

              If anyone survives it will be those who are living in remote places and know how to live off the land.

              Anyone doomie prepping will not survive this. They think they can — but that is only because they continue to be able to buy some from the hardware store and super market – they have electricity… they have chainsaws and washing machines and refidgerators and irrigation pumps and rubber hoses and valves etc…

              They have not the slightest clue what it is like to live without most if not all of that.

              Of course they also have neighbours and family who will show up wanting food… and the rabble. Disease will also be a problem particularly as one weakens and is faced with endless tasks from morning till night

              And the toxins will make there way over the mountains and they will fall into the garden and water…

              I actually see no point in even trying to survive this. These people seem to think it will be a grand adventure – cuz Hollywood and the Tee Vee depict it as such.

              It will be hell on Earth. The mother in The Road committed suicide. She did the right thing … there will be no Koombaya Commune at the end of The Road

              I am ok with some tribal societies surviving – they will never move beyond hunting and gathering … industrial civilization — is done

            • If figured quite long ago that I couldn’t be one of the people to survive. What little I could do is way, way too little. I am also too old and lacking for a big network of neighbors who also have survivorship skills.

              Back when I first got interested in the issue of Limits to a Finite World, I visited a few people who were trying to set up places where they and other could survive. It was clear to me that they had no concept of the difficulties that they were likely to run into. In my opinion, the survivors will have to be people who are not dependent on BAU for 95% of their goods and services. Many of the people setting up these places expected to be able to run to the store for whatever they needed.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              They are no different than those who believe the transition to renewable energy will be successful.

              Delusional.

              Facts and logic are not of interest to such people

  8. jigisup says:

    This is the plan. AEGIS.

    No weapon system is perfect. That includes Russian weapon systems. There is no wunder waffen. But looked at as a whole the USA is not in a good place. IMO fundamentally this comes from failure to stay competitive in missile technology. Despite the money poured into it the MIC has not provided the USA with competitive missile technology.

    Offensive missile system development has basically been non existent. The subsonic Tomahawk was a good cruise missile in its time entering service in 1983. That’s it. Strategically the Trident is a good system. Its probably the best the USA has. The ancient minuteman are also a very old missile.
    The money was put into very expensive “top Gun” aircraft instead.

    Defensively it’s the same. Many peer offensive missiles fly almost as fast as the US interceptors. The new generation of Russian air defense approaches mach 20. Aegis and Patriot approach mach 4. The Russian Kalibr offensive is bread and butter of Russian hypersonic missiles. Nothing special for Russia. They sell export versions. I have often said the US should buy some. It would be an extremely cost effective way to field hypersonic missiles. Its speed is mach 3.8 on final approach. This makes chances of intercept much smaller. More missiles have to be launched to have a significant chance of intercept. Say 10 or so with no guarantees. Against Russia’s many faster missiles there is no chance of intercept.

    Sure some of the missile technology will not work both Russian and USA. Aegis intercept numbers are shown below. This is in perfect conditions against subsonic missiles. It is not a realistic test.

    Wheras the extreme expense of the missiles the AEGIS system uses limit their deployment the relatively inexpensive Kalibr is not regarded as a big deal. Bread and butter.

    More likely it would seem is the chances that the AEGIS will go up against the Chinese YJ-21. Mach 6-8,
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YJ-21

    Which begs the question. What the hell is the US government thinking when they envision a naval engagement with China? Ritter says the carrier groups will be sunk long before they get close. Hypersonics launched from aircraft at standoff range. Launched from outside the range of carrier group missiles and aircraft. What do we witness in Ukraine? Missiles launched from aircraft at standoff ranges outside defensive perimeter.

    Aegis would probably be a superior system if it had peer missile capabilities. The missiles it has to work with are hopelessly outdated. Will they do their best sure. Things have flipped. Instead of delivering superior technology the US navy will be receiving it. The days of launching Tomahawks against opponents armed with khalishnakov’s are over. Remember when we thought Japanese cars were “Jank”?

    It wasnt till we saw them making 300k miles and drove a 280z that we reconsidered. This learning curve will be more abrupt.

    Aegis is what keeps a carrier group safe.
    What the hell are they thinking?

    1; talking smack
    2; they want a carrier group sunk and international sea trade ended. The new endless war and significantly lower standard of living begins. All Xi’s fault,

    As I have stated its very hard to ascertain motives. Im guessing #2.

    Self organizing energy system at work.

    Lockheed martin AEGIS commercial. Lots of corporate “buzz speak”. See those people? Guess what their compensation for that buzzspeak is? Maybe buzzspeak will get those missiles competitive? Perhaps a new Budweiser style commercial will get those missiles competitive?

    I propose a new buzzspeak “slowjank”

    “Darcy could you whip up a new powerpoint I dont want the general thinking were slowjank”

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/UEsPz1jpatFq/

    AEGIS intercept on subsonic results.

    https://www.defense.gov/Portals/1/Interactive/2018/11-2019-Missile-Defense-Review/ballistic-missile-defense-intercept-flight-test-record-UPDATED.pdf

    • Mirror on the wall says:

      USA has fallen behind both Russia and China, and failed to develop hypersonic missiles?

      Clayton talks about that.

      • Russia destroyed underground bunker with hundred (300+) of top Ukrainian leader, and also dozens of NATO officials, very recently, but this is not being reported. Russians used 6 hypersonic missiles, in response to earlier intrusion into Russia. The only way to respond to this would be with nuclear weapons. Reporters cannot talk about this. They say they are “out of time.”

        Ukraine is a total lost cause. Needs a peace agreement. Bankers want reconstruction, so they make loans to start rebuilding.

        • jigisup says:

          Why did the US fail to stay competitive? IMO there are three major reasons.

          1; The corporate for profit MIC culture does not meet needs. It provides solutions that are designed to create profit not address problems. It has all of the problems of corporate culture and none of the advantages. It doesn’t look to cost and efficiency. Payment comes from printing money. Of course they stick it to uncle sammy. If uncle sammy doesnt want the product oh well. Not their problem that their product doesnt meet uncle sammys needs. Basically there is no competition. It provides the solution it wants and makes up the narrative about the problem. Its sells its narrative as it sells its product.

          2; The idea that the product must only be based on unique ideas that come from USA corporate culture. No competitive engineering does this. Designs evolve internationally. When some one makes a break through you take the ball and run with it. Improve on it yes. But to specifically say oh we cant do that it would give country X kudos is very counter productive. Oh those silly hypersonics are not all that. The f-35 is the future. It denys reality. Selling the narrative. It is a a symptom of exceptionalism and it hurts effective weapon acquisition greatly. Russia sells the Kalibr(klub export version) . China sells the YJ-21. We should have bought figured it out and made our own version. A trillion a year spent and we couldnt do that. WE couldnt figure out how to make these hypersonics with a trillion a year?. Taking a working design and running with it is unthinkable. Because we are the bestest ever. Oh we can do this with weapon designs from other western countries but not the “bad” countries. Because everything they do is bad! Stinks like a skunk! To acknowledge a good design is counter to the MIC culture which just coincidentally creates a monopoly on their product.

          3. Innovation follows facilitation. WE have outsourced our manufacturing. If you have manufacturing you have bright minds getting their feet wet. Technology is technology. Whether using for something that benefits humanity or designing something to kill people the skill set is the same. Human assets are not developed to anywhere near the same degree without manufacturing base. Ideas that would have occurred dont. Designs that would have been thought of dont. Not to mention cost effective manufacture of the weapon system something that we now see has great importance. But thats contrary to the narrative too. MIC tells us all you need is our wunder waffe and they will all fall down and go boom. WE act like wunder waffen quality not quantity is by choice but the truth is its not we dont have the capability to do quantity. Very inconvenient when someone comes up with a relatively cheap and effective idea like hypersonics that they can knock off like Bic lighters.

          China and Russia understand this well. They would never allow their industry to leave. Although the banksters tried with Russia after 91 that silly P guy shut them down. What a silly idea! Not letting corporations extract all your Industry technology and facilitation! China goes WTF they are falling on their own sword who are we to intervene. Give us your industry. Yea we are your serfs forever we promise scouts honor. All hail these green pieces of paper.

          Are we so convinced of our exceptionalism and unable to look at the obvious truth to correct dysfunction that we are going to send a carrier group to get sunk? IM sorry thats insane. Kind of like some other current events.

          If you cant acknowledge reality the world has a particular way of demonstrating truth. The planet is the great teacher. The great educator.

          • I might add that the self-organizing system has allowed a big governmental organization to grow up in the US. This governmental organization has encouraged the narratives you mention. It has provided subsidies to plainly ridiculous technologies. It has not encouraged schools to teach about energy and its importance. It has not encouraged thinking about limits to growth, and what happens when limits are hit. Instead, it has come up with plainly ridiculous narratives that it pushes.

            It has depended on the military to enforce what it wants. This military is spread very thin. It can’t really fight a war, unfortunately, now.

          • Foolish Fitz says:

            You will be pleased to know that the U.S did buy and learn from Russia at least once (Yak 414).

            https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/19950059269

            Ok, it’s downhill from here.

            Instead of using this to make a competitive VTOL, it was mixed with other demands, for the sake of saving money they said and the F35 was going to be that vehicle. So you now have a plane that doesn’t know which gender it wants to be, has a phobia of flight, with hundreds of issues and needs regular retreats to it’s safe space, but that at least keeps the cash flowing and that’s a saving grace for some.

            The best explanation of the F35 I’ve read is the below 👇

            What went wrong with the F-35?

            An analogy…

            You are a talented motor-sport engineering team who has just won a major sponsorship contract to build a car to compete in Formula One. They are ambitious. Deep pockets. Top drivers. Clean-sheet design. Yaaaaaay!!!

            You’re confident you can build an F1 chassis to go up against McLaren, Ferrari, Mercedes. You start to dream of your creation taking the flag at Monte Carlo.

            Well into the initial development stage, your sponsor suddenly tells you that they now also want to compete in the Le Mans 24 hours…

            But here’s the catch: it has to be IN THE SAME CAR. Obviously, the chassis, engine and power-train will be modified a bit but not by much… it’s still going to have to be essentially the same car.

            It must be the same car. It’s this weird fetish they have.

            Your engine that you designed to last 90 mins will now have to last 24 hours. Of course it still has to comply with F1 spec so your 1.6 litre engine is up against the competition’s LMP spec 5.5 litres…. Never mind, you do your best. It’s still a track car, after all.

            Then an additional request comes in: your sponsor wants to enter the same car at the Santa Pod Drag Racing championships. So now your “F1/LMP fusion special” will be expected to do a ¼ mile in 4 secs. Against Top Fuel Dragsters that were designed for no other purpose than to do the fastest ever ¼ mile….

            Another curveball: they also want to enter it into Gumball Run and so the car is going to have to be fully Road Legal….

            Compound Curveball: whilst they’re about it, they want to enter it into the Pikes Peak Unlimited Class Hill climb Events (you are, of course, far from being Unlimited in your design parameters…)

            Remember… it still has to be the same basic design of car. For everything.

            It’s A Thing.

            All this made perfect sense to the Accounts Dept. Save money by building A Universal Racing Car that could compete in a ANY motor-sport event. Far cheaper than developing separate chassis for each event… surely ?

            Accounting wins over Engineering. Every. Fucking. Time.

            Finally… to add insult to injury: your sponsor now wants the car to be entered into the Baja California. Maybe the Paris Dakar rally as well. You start to develop a mental image of a Formula One car fitted with enormous off-road tyres and high ground clearance. You start to contemplate the logistics of keeping a Formula One engine running for several weeks in all that sand and dirt.

            And so it is with the F35.…

            (Oh yeah I forgot… your sponsor’s boss’s missus also wants to use it to go shopping… at Ikea…. for a new sofa.)

            • jigisup says:

              Thank you for the response. Im not sure I agree with your analogy. In some ways it does get to the point. Whether the sponsor or builder dropped the ball doesnt matter the culture of the two is not going to win.

              This isnt just about the implementation alone. Design philosophy changed and the sponsor and the builder were taking bong hits looking at their trophys.

              Because somehow no one could say hey Houston we have a problem, Hmm look at what Russia is designing. Hot rod aircraft with almost no stealth. Why those dumb russkies. WE are going to clean their stupid clocks. Thats what everone said. All these analyst and MIC corporation guys saying were the bestest ever. Not one got it? THat these hot rod aircraft are to blast to a point and launch hypersonics . They dont care about stealth because the ordnance release is outside the defensive perimeter. And these silly Chinese, Wonder why they are doing the same. No matter. Go Maverick!

              looking at the trophys from shock and awe. Where the competition put the car into the wall at the first curve. In the meantime the rules changed. And not one of these suits got it? Not one of these analysts got it? IF they did they couldnt say anything because the other team is just stupid everyone knows that. Stink like a skunk. Not one of them was honest enough to say hey I dont like what im seeing? Air defense is getting damn good, not sure stealth top gun is the way to go. Uh we cant knock these hypersonics down.THe culture which is one of exceptionalism didnt allow that even if some of them got it which im damn sure some of them did. Just plodded along with the billion dollar baby.

              WE even got a hint of that in the remake of top gun movie where the bad guy was the CO who was advocating drones. Because anything but top gun philosophy is just plain wrong. Stinks like a skunk.

              Well we are here now. Its not Hollywood. Reality check. A completely new warfighting paradigm evolved while we were hanging out with our trophys.

              THe guys that give a shit throw a flag dont get promoted. Not that they care. They care about getting effective tools in the grunts hands. Special forces get taught to think outside of the box. If its a stupid plan they speak up. At the top its corporate MIC culture. Beltway swamp. THe ones that cant take it drop out and go back to Texas or Kansas genitalia intact and manage a best buy.

              So now we see. A testing of conclusions. Anyone who was going to throw a flag is long gone.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Can we get some drone footage of this …

        • jigisup says:

          “Russia destroyed underground bunker with hundred (300+) of top Ukrainian leader, and also dozens of NATO officials, very recently, but this is not being reported.”

          Gail even Andrei Martenov laughed at the idea that this occurred. If it happened it wasnt 400 feet deep as the accounts detailed. Yes hypersonics have a lot of kinetic energy. KE = 1/2mv2 but its not even close to get that deep. It could possibly if the missile was solid tungsten so it could use the energy to move the dirt in a linear fashion. The missile needs the apparatus to move itself and its not dense. If it was dense it would be heavy and it couldnt go fast. Andrei is probably the individual most responsible for educating us about the abilities and flaws of the various weapon systems. I can dig up the interview if you wish. Your wish is my command!

          Its war. There is propaganda both sides. Wunder waffen tales both sides. Hypersonics are dangerous because they cant be intercepted. Yes they have significant kinetic energy. Yes it will punch through something hard like steel that offers resistance. Earth distributes energy applied to it because it is soft but also has mass. Its very zen. Even wunder waffens dont match earth.

    • drb753 says:

      My guess is it will eventually go to US submarines denying sea trade. this is the only other card they have to play, other than nuclear war.

      • Student says:

        (Financial Times: 2 articles)

        There are actually two articles today on FT somehow related this argument.
        The first one about what the West is doing.
        The second one about what China is doing.
        Something is happening and maybe Ukraine is already an old story.
        Let’s see.

        1) ”Shifting production from China is impossible, says shipping boss.

        Beijing’s world trade dominance will make cutting it out of global supply chains a tough task.

        Companies are expanding production outside of China to reduce the risk from rising geopolitical tensions, but the country’s dominance in world trade makes cutting it out of global supply chains impossible, one of the world’s largest container shipping groups has said.

        “The scale [and] the weight of China means it is easy to overexaggerate the impact of ‘China plus one’,” said Michael Fitzgerald, deputy finance chief of Orient Overseas Container Line, a Hong Kong-headquartered group belonging to Chinese state-owned Cosco.

        “It’s happening. It’s real,” he told the Financial Times this month, referring to the strategy of companies shifting or expanding production outside of China amid tensions between Beijing and Washington.

        “But don’t forget the absolute scale of China is so huge that even if Vietnam is growing by a bigger number [and] if China’s growing by a smaller number, that’s still a huge proportion of the supply chain.”

        https://www.ft.com/content/ed7357fa-1da5-485c-ae59-ed21ab1e6e9d

        https://archive.is/BX8tb

        2) ”China urges jobless graduates to ‘roll up their sleeves’ and try manual work”

        https://www.ft.com/content/b0a85810-e8a2-4868-a88a-3049d54d101b

        https://archive.is/F2Jxj

  9. Mirror on the wall says:

    This is another discussion of Thucydides and Nietzsche. It contains a lot of interesting stuff, and I am not going to summarise it all right now. It seems that the Thucydides was a stern, no-nonsense man.

    This:

    > …. The most natural thing in the world for them [pre-Socratic Hellenes] was the sort of Sophistic view of the truth, this perspectival manifold view of the truth, this conflict in contrast, that it was normal, and this is the same world that Thucydides inhabits and that he describes.

    Rather than finding ‘good guys’ and ‘bad guys’ in the Peloponnesian War between Athens and Sparta, what we see in Thucydides is a description of powers with competing interests, which lead then into competing moral views that are sort of post-hoc on the back of those interests. So the implication might be that a moral view that someone holds is a rationalization to cast a more favorable light on the course of action that suits their own interest.

    …. Thucydides is writing for a higher order motivation if you will, and that is a philosophical motivation, not in the narrow sense but in more of a broad sense, in a Sophistic sense: the desire to distill that moral lesson, moral here in the sense of prudence or virtue in the Renaissance sense – virtu – in terms of expediency.

    He’s trying to distill this lesson from the most extreme study of human experience and human action and motivation, which is and has always been war.

    It’s a moral lesson as it shows us how people actually behave where the stakes are the highest and the rewards are the greatest, and in this extreme environment the pretenses of moralism are dropped in favor of expediency. Codes of conduct which are established according to custom always end up yielding to this brute necessity of defeating the enemy and winning the conflict, because the alternative is death or slavery or whatever it might be.

    And so here we see what people really value, how they really think – how they ought to act – regardless of the pretty words we might say about morality when in the safety of peacetime.

    • Cheese can cause nightmares says:

      So how did you apply this to your career? Did you start at the bottom and work your way up?

      • Mirror on the wall says:

        You ‘started’ at the ‘bottom’, and ‘worked your way up’?

        Your mind really is one track….

        • Cheese can cause nightmares says:

          Ahem. I forgot “of the ladder”. I was trying to trigger your Nietzschean power / pride complex to see what transpired. I think you’re projecting something with all this – a kind of power “wannabe” thing. Your defensiveness shines through and makes it seem like you’ve been belittled somewhere in your life. A pity “career” didn’t trigger anything – your defensiveness again. You give very little away.

          • Mirror on the wall says:

            I just do not really go in for the garden gate gossip kind of thing? Those people have no interest to me.

          • Lidia17 says:

            Buckle said, in his dogmatic way: “Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas.”

            https://quoteinvestigator.com/2014/11/18/great-minds/

            • Cheese can cause nightmares says:

              But psychology is fascinating. And without people, there would be no ideas.

            • drb753 says:

              This quote seems to be produced by someone rather limited intellectually. zerohedge commenter level. Ideas change nothing in physical reality. You have quite a number of passable intellects who will argue about ideology (any type) until the shelves in the supermarket are bare and the buses do not run anymore.

    • Jan says:

      The challenge is always to create surplus. War means to steal the surplus of others. Defense might pay off.

      Group dynamics that are based on easy to understand rules and that allow everybody to integrate happily with their individual needs reduce social overhead and get the best out of them, contributing to surplus. Without fossiles surplus must come from a large workforce.

      In our system surplus is provided from a few monopolistic enterprises that can generate scaling effects. Surplus comes from fossiles. The useless workforce is being entertained. The higher hysteria, the more complex social rules, the easier to keep people occupied and busy. People in control of fossiles can feel like Gods and kings. There is room for complex considerations and to evolve egos. On the other hand people don’t matter, they are only needed as customers and easily replacable.

      When fossiles decline every life becomes an energetic investment. People have at least to be able to care for gooses and generate some surplus from the alms.

      Of course, people in charge have always thought about how to organise that efficiently.

      Without fossiles a communication system to bring people in line eats up surplus. Cheapest is social control by the people themselves and by religion – in the past the church, especially monasteries, contributed a lot to surplus, developing seeds, knowhow, keeping the knowledge of the anchient, creating innovation and cultural artifacts and teaching skills.

      Slaves are complicated as you might ruin the surplus invested into their lives, skills, knowledge. If you steal them, use them, throw them, someone else had invested. It is like stealing resources. But wars are risky undertakings that needn’t necessarily be won. If you raise slaves yourself, the feeling of superiority should better not eat up surplus. Totalitarian control, even fear, is expensive in regard of surplus.

      As I can easily understand why to invest surplus into bridges, city walls and small beautiful churches, I cannot compehend, why to invest surplus into anything as unnecessary as large mausolea like the pyramids. If you look to large palaces during the agrarian times, most rooms were functional enabling administration, jurisdiction, production, communication. The Austrian Imperor owned a lot of places to stay but private rooms were limited to one or two for the Imperor and one for his wife. Most people I know have more today. Perhaps there is a mechanism that accumulated excess surplus cannot be spent into useful investments at spme point but have to be ‘lost’ to keep population rates limited? I haven’t figured that out.

      • “War means to steal the surplus of others.”

        Good point!

        Here in the Atlanta area I am hearing about interest in building another new sports stadium, with added other facilities.

        https://www.wsbtv.com/sports/exclusive-1-billion-arena-with-development-bigger-than-battery-proposed-forsyth-county/J2R2TVK2NVHOVBDT6WAQKBY3VE/

        The Battery in Cobb County is considered the gold standard for a mixed-used development in the United States.

        In a Channel 2 Action News exclusive, sports director Zach Klein has learned local businessman Vernon Krause plans to transform over 100 acres in Forsyth County into a mixed-used project that will actually be bigger than The Battery.

        Could it attract the National Hockey League back to the metro Atlanta area?

        What does Atlanta possibly need another big sports arena for? If it really has this much surplus, I can see why someone else would want to take it away.

      • Mirror on the wall says:

        Right, ‘expediency’ can mean all sorts of things in practice. Even the most mundane social practices can have their purpose and function. Situations are liable to change, and what is expedient with them. The insight of ‘expediency’ opens up the entire social question.

        On the other hand, Thucydides seems to give the matter a competitive inter-state emphasis. He is thinking within the context of the Peloponnesian War. A society that does not take seriously what is expedient for that state, in a competitive context, is liable to be overcome and be replaced by societies that do. War is just a fact.

        States are concentrations of power that compete for dominance. So, it is generally going to be expedient for a society to maximise its power with all that involves. Alliances can be formed that can relieve some of the pressure, but the geopolitical landscape is fluid as circumstances are always changing.

        Athens lost to Sparta, and entire Hellenic world was then taken by the Macedonian Empire, and the Hellenic age came to an end. The world is a dangerous place, and even the most advanced civilisation of its time is liable to pass away if it does not take matters seriously.

        The west has looked dominant for a while, but it has made far too many mistakes, and likely it is on its way out. Many see it as an ideological basket case, but that can mean different things to different people. What comes next remains to be seen, but it may be a way more radical shift than people anticipate.

        These are very dynamics times, and time tells all. Do I really care if history moves on, and the west has had its day in the sun? Not particularly. In any case, it would be naive to inflate the importance of one’s own subjectivity. The world is a big place, and history is a very long process. Everything comes and goes in the end.

  10. Ted Kaczynski says:

    What Was the Life Expectancy of Ancient Humans?
    https://www.discovermagazine.com/the-sciences/what-was-the-life-expectancy-of-ancient-humans

    Learn how Infection and disease used to take a toll on Homo sapiens and Neanderthals.
    By Joshua Rapp LearnApr 21, 2023

    “[Early humans] used to live, have children, then die immediately from disease or predation,” says Marios Kyriazis, a biomedical gerontologist at the National Gerontology Center in Cyprus

    Nature made the human body in a way to have children, live for a few more years to see our children growing up, and maybe reach the age where we can see grandchildren,” says Kyriazis, who authored the study “Aging Throughout History: The Evolution of Human Lifespan” published in the Journal of Molecular Evolution.

    Other research reveals that the lifespan of Homo sapiens may have changed from the Middle Paleolithic to the later Upper Paleolithic, since the ratio of older to younger remains increases. The same research shows that starting about 30,000 years ago at the beginning of the Upper Paleolithic, the average lifespan began to push past 30 years.

    Another big change coincides roughly with the period between which humans began to adopt sedentary lifestyles 10 millennia or so ago, moving into urban centers like Çatalhöyük in Turkey. A more nomadic lifestyle was relatively healthier than living in denser towns back then, since urban areas lacked proper sewage systems and hygiene. As people lived in closer proximity to each other and their livestock, disease could transmit more easily between humans and domesticated animals. Some research at Çatalhöyük suggests that as the city became denser, people were less healthy, likely leading to a drop in average life expectancy.

    “The capacity of people to live longer remained, but many people died from disease and diet,” says Kyriazis.

    Roman times, records were a lot better in some cases. Scheidel has examined census records for Egypt when it was a province in the Roman Empire about two millennia ago. These records show that overall, the average life expectancy was in the 20s.

    Of course, many people lived longer than this — the overall number is drawn down largely because infant mortality was high back then. For people who made it past the age of five, the life expectancy goes up to somewhere in the 40s, Scheidel says.

    So, Nuttie Eddie, calm down bro…we here made it past the average and trotting the Victory lap….

    • reante says:

      We’ve talked before, here, about the civilizational propaganda regarding the lifespan of wild humans. If we look at it from a biological perspective, the propaganda that claims wild human average lifespan was about 30 years, is preposterous.

      All biological capacities, including the age to which any species can live on average, are only ever the result of having normalized that capacity over the course of many many generations. The more complex the creature, the more generations it takes. What the industrial propagandists are implying is that industrialism has increased the human lifespan by 2.5X. I call that magical thinking in service of a cultural agenda. An agenda of Fear.

      Furthermore, even early humans had no natural predators. That’s fear porn, too.

      There’s no true basis in the ‘research.’ I guarantee it. Wild skeletal remains are far more robust that their civilized counterparts.

      • Tim Groves says:

        You mean that pterodactyl that carried off Raquel Welch was fake?

        Well, you learn something new everyday. And I thought One Million Years BC was authentic!

        I am afraid I don’t take your guarantees very seriously. You come across as far too cocksure for that. You write as if you are an expert in every subject you opine on and the authorities in the field are either lying or incompetent.

        What do you even mean by “wild humans”? Are you counting the Irish in that category? Or the Russians? Or the Yanomami? Or Tarzan? Or are you referring to feral children who live isolated from human contact from a very young age?

        Or do you refer to people who are uncivilized; a savages, those with violent tempers, erratic behavior, etc., or to those who hold extreme or outrageous political opinions?

        And no, nobody reading this “knows” what you mean when you write “wild humans” unless you provide a succinct definition.

        • reante says:

          Ok Timmy.

          Here’s the relevant quote from above:

          “The same research shows that starting about 30,000 years ago at the beginning of the Upper Paleolithic, the average lifespan began to push past 30 years.”

          Realize that we are talking about genetically identical humans to us, here, for all intents and purposes.

          Unless you state here in front of everyone that the human being has evolved a radical life extension adaptation to the tune of 2.5X in the course of 30,000 years, then you don’t have a Reason to say anything about my Reasoned position. So go ahead and post your statement of belief. We’re waiting.

          And I have a question for you while you’re at it: are there any other large mammals that have been found to have undergone such a radical life extension adaptation?

          The tower of babble shouldn’t surprise you, Tim, and it shouldn’t surprise you that common folk like me, you, Gail, and everyone else here can put this Think Tank to work in order to think our way clearly through the babble. Have confidence, Timmy. To repeat, your existential crisis is a crisis of confidence.

          Chop wood, carry water. Then get up and do it again.

          • humankind has increased its average lifespan x2.5 in about 300 years—not 30000 years

            • reante says:

              yes, that’s the totally insane timeframe I referenced in my original comment but then decided it would be fairer to use the longer timeframe based on the early human quote from the article.

              Welcome to total insanity, norm. The insanity in which a large mammal can figure out how to accomplish a 2.5X maximum lifespan in 15 generations.

              There’s 2X Solar Civilization……. and then there’s 2.5X Radical Life Extension Civilization lol. Even despite the fact that the REL Civilization is defined by chronic disease and crashing fertility levels.

              LOL.

              Timmy?

            • reante says:

              The actual question is have humans increased their maximum lifespan?

          • reante says:

            If we look at the maximum lifespans of other hominids in captivity we see that our own hominid speciation that we call homo, is somewhat longer lived, maybe by 30% over most other hominids hut by less than that over chimpanzees. Why would that be? Because chimpanzees eat the second-most animal foods among hominids.

            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldest_hominids#:~:text=The%20oldest%20living%20female%20(and,aged%2054%20years%2C%20115%20days.

            So this should put things in better perspective. When we evolved, over a very very long period of time, from our primate hominid ancestors — that, like chimps, ate more meat and insect food than the other primates — and into early homo, we extended our lifespans by maybe 20pc when using chimps as the baseline, but it maybe that our hominid ancestors were somewhat longer lived than chimps.

          • Tim Groves says:

            See what you did there? That’s four posts there, Reante, in order to not to answer my very simple question: “What do you mean by wild humans?”

            I could say a few things in agreement and disagreement with your hypothesis about human lifespan. However, please answer that one question of mine before giving me any more homework.

            Clue: “Wild humans” is not a scientific or an academic term.

            If you can’t be bothered go to the trouble to define what you are talking about, then there really is no point anybody joining you in the effort to “think our way clearly through the babble”, as you so eloquently put it.

            If you can’t use clear terms, you are merely adding to the babble.

            And if you can’t answer simple questions, then we must ask what has happened to your commitment to the Socratic method?

          • Tim Groves says:

            Reante, you say this is the relevant quote from the paper quoted by Ted is:

            “The same research shows that starting about 30,000 years ago at the beginning of the Upper Paleolithic, the average lifespan began to push past 30 years.”

            And you seek to debunk this?

            Why? Well, to establish the truth, presumably.

            But more important, how?

            Are you proposing to go back 30,000 years in a Time Machine and do a census?

            Here’s my stance not as an expert but as an educated layman who has forgotten much of what he learned about paleontology, anthropology, and archeology.

            Homo sapiens who lived 30,000 years ago were anatomically very similar to modern Homo sapiens. I won’t say identical. Not all moderns are identical to each other either. But changes have been minor. So without doing any practical research, I would suggest that Homo sapiens who lived 30,000 years ago had about the same theoretically maximum lifespan as modern humans do. It might not have been exactly the same, but it would have been in the same ballpark.

            Are you with me so far? Are we on the same page? We are? Good….

            • Tim Groves says:

              But that’s not what the research that Ted cited was talking about.

              That research was talking about the average lifespan, which is far lower than the theoretical maximum, obviously.

              My statement of belief—I don’t have one. I’m not a faith-based scientist, you know. I go on hypotheses, evidence, experimentation and cold, steel logic, my dear Reante. Eliminate the impossible, and what remains must be …. the possible? See, I’m even less likely to leap to unfounded conclusions than Sherlock Holmes was.

              I haven’t looked at the research, but it seems reasonable that back in the Palaeolithic, people lived shorter lives on the average than they do today, for the following reasons. 1) less spohisticated medical care, so if they got sick or injured regardless of the reason, there would be less help available. 2) Less food security, as they didn’t have access to the huge surpluses that agriculture could provide. 3) Less personal security, as there would have been no police, army, social workers, etc., to protect them from the violence of other humans, as well as from the occasional grizzly bear or sabre tooth tiger, or pterodactyl attack. And don’t forget giant snakes. Even today in Indonesia, there are reports of snakes up to 7 meters long swallowing old ladies whole. 4) Less sophisticated tools, clothes, houses, etc., which help humans to control and manage their immediate environment, 5) No pensions or unemployment benefit or sick pay.

              So all in all, I would be surprised if the AVERAGE life expectancy was any more than 30 in the Old Stone Age.

              But I agree with Norman, that it was that low in Europe 300 years ago before the Industrial Revolution.

              Are you trying to argue that people in the old Stone Age lived three score and ten years ON THE AVERAGE?

              If so, don’t be shy. Present your evidence or your reasoning so that the Think Tank can think about it.

            • JMS says:

              Dear Tim, dear Reante, are you by any chance trying to emulate the Squabble Number of the famous duo Fast & Norman? Forget it, please, the world is too finite for that.

              I believe Reante here is just stating the obvious. The concept of life expectancy is distorted by high infant mortality. The humans of 30000 years ago lived healthy, like any wild animal, until the thread of their life was cut off by accidents (falls, attacks, etc.), shortages (hunger, cold, etc.) or old age. With all the luck, you could live to be 70 or 89,9. and with bad luck you would die from a well-aimed stone or pneumonia at 29,6. That’s all.

            • reante says:

              JMS

              Thanks for playing peacemaker. Your summary is accurate.

              Tim

              A wild human is one that lives in a subsistence outside of civilization. Wild animals are ones that directly take care of all their own needs. The feral category is a gray area that requires more conversation.

              The article absolutely does muddy the waters between average life expectancy and biological (maximum) lifespan. Look at this part by the Cyprus jerk:

              “[Early humans] used to live, have children, then die immediately from disease or predation,” says Marios Kyriazis, a biomedical gerontologist at the National Gerontology Center in Cyprus

              Nature made the human body in a way to have children, live for a few more years to see our children growing up, and maybe reach the age where we can see grandchildren,” says Kyriazis, who authored the study “Aging Throughout History: The Evolution of Human Lifespan” published in the Journal of Molecular Evolution.”

              This guy is absolutely saying that the biological lifespan was about thirty years. From what you just said you disagree, and think that’s a fine judgement on your part.

              Regarding infant mortality skewing paleolithic averages down to around thirty years old, that’s also bullshit. They have no way of knowing that based on pathetic sample sizes and lack of cultural context. It stands to reason to me that most extant remains would be those given particular care in burial, and those that are given particular care in burial would be the greatest heros those societies had, and the care with which they were buried would serve as a cultural affirmation. Those would generally be male hunters and warriors in their prime which under natural law would put them in the neighborhood of thirty years old. The same age as athletes in their prime.

              It’s long been known in anthropological circles that institutional forces have taken early industrial urban infant mortality figures and falsely applied them backwards through the rest of history, assuming that it was ever thus. It’s just a late-industrial germ theory bias.

    • Jan says:

      There are old texts with recommendations to age? something like that a person being 80+ should not anymore act as a senator but only as a consultant.

      I doubt these are exaggerations but they refer to the very wealthy and might not reflect the average life expectancy. I guess though that the biological ability to live long was not so different in the past. All depends more on which circumstances shorten lives. I have people in my family living under poor circumstances in the mountains with their hens and potatoes never seeing any doctor until the age of 92 with a few additional years in family care.

      Humans are tough, tenacious, dogged creatures!

      • reante says:

        Right. They shouldn’t be joining the word lifespan to the word average, because lifespan connotes how long a creature CAN approximately live under a healthy terrain.

        They should instead be talking in terms of life expectancy. Average life expectancy. The culture is so tower of babel degenerate now that ‘experts’ often don’t even have basic competency of thought in their fields anymore.

  11. Cheese can cause nightmares says:

    Well, we had our emergency alert test here in the UK. A cheesy female artificial American voice assured us that it was just a test and there was nothing to worry about. Why an American voice here in England? I demand a refund!

    • Cheese can cause nightmares says:

      Here I celebrate England’s coming victory over Russia. Go to the 1:04 point to hear the triumphant bit.

      Karelia suite intermezzo by Sibelius.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      I turned that function off…. does that make me a rebel… perhaps a subversive?

      • Cheese can cause nightmares says:

        Some years back, the CIA sneakily managed to get some Lebanese terrorist to accept a mobile phone as a gift. They rang him from a certain number, he answered – boom, he was blown up. Very James Bond!

  12. Cheese can cause nightmares says:

    Dancing on the Brink

    https://www.ecosophia.net/dancing-on-the-brink/

    By John Michael Greer.

    EXTRACTS.

    Behind the chatbots are programs called large language models (LLMs), which are very good at imitating the more predictable uses of human language. A very large number of office jobs these days spend most of their time producing texts that fall into that category: contracts, legal briefs, press releases, media stories, and the list goes on. Those jobs are going away. Computer coding is even more amenable to LLM production, so you can kiss a great many software jobs goodbye as well. Any other form of economic activity that involves assembling predictable sequences of symbols is facing the same crunch. A recent paper by Goldman Sachs estimates that something like 300 million jobs across the industrial world will be wholly or party replaced by LLMs in the years immediately ahead.

    Another technology with similar results is CGI image creation. Levi’s announced not long ago that all its future catalogs and advertising will use CGI images instead of highly paid models and photographers. Expect the same thing to spread generally. Oh, and Hollywood’s next. We’re not too far from the point at which a program can harvest all the footage of Marilyn Monroe from her films, and use that to generate new Marilyn Monroe movies for a tiny fraction of what it costs to hire living actors, camera crews, and the rest. The result will be a drastic decrease in high-paying jobs across a broad swath of the economy.

    The middle and upper middle classes in the United States, and in many other countries, will face the same kind of slow demolition that swept over the working classes of those same countries in the late twentieth century. Layoffs, corporate bankruptcies, declining salaries and benefits, and the latest high-tech version of NO HELP WANTED signs will follow one another at irregular intervals. All the businesses that make money catering to these same classes will lose their incomes as well, a piece at a time. Communities will hollow out the way the factory towns of America’s Rust Belt and the English Midlands did half a century ago, but this time it will be the turn of upscale suburbs and fashionable urban neighborhoods to collapse as the income streams that supported them go away.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Hands up if a chat bot has ever been able to solve a problem for you.

      They are almost completely useless.

      And a superb demonstration of the complete lack of intelligence of AI

    • What the world needs is more jobs that pay well. Removing current jobs using chatbots is not really a desirable outcome, from the overall view of the economy.

      This is similar to self-driving vehicles not necessarily being helpful. All of the delivery people need to make a living, too.

    • postkey says:

      “What are the jobs of the future? How many will there be?
      And who will have them? We might imagine—and hope—
      that today’s industrial revolution will unfold like the last:
      even as some jobs are eliminated, more will be created to deal
      with the new innovations of a new era. In Rise of the Robots,
      Silicon Valley entrepreneur Martin Ford argues that this is
      absolutely not the case. As technology continues to accelerate
      and machines begin taking care of themselves, fewer people
      will be necessary. Artificial intelligence is already well on its
      Copyrighted Material – Paperback/Kindle available @ Amazon
      way to making “good jobs” obsolete: many paralegals, journalists, office workers, and even computer programmers are poised to be replaced by robots and smart software. As progress continues, blue and white collar jobs alike will evaporate, squeezing working- and middle-class families ever further. At the same time, households are under assault from exploding costs, especially from the two major industries—education and health care—that, so far, have not been transformed by information technology. The result could well be massive unemployment and inequality”?
      http://www.thelightsinthetunnel.com/LIGHTSTUNNEL.PDF

  13. lurker says:

    Thanks for that. I recall Chris Martenson talking about selenium early during Covid, too. The best natutal source of selenium is Brazil nuts (actually a seed), 1 contains the RDA of selenium. A Brazil nut a day keeps the covid away? Should help, at least, and I prefer nutrition to supplements (though I do supplement zinc at the moment, as it’s hard to find enough on a vegetarian diet).

    Regarding NAC:

    NAC vs Cysteine vs Cystine

    You may hear NAC being referred to by its full name, N-Acetyl Cysteine, or just as cysteine or even cystine. So what is the difference between them? Cystine is actually made up of two cysteine molecules bonded together and, according to the USDA, cysteine and cystine are nutritionally equivalent. These amino acids are both found in high-protein foods.

    Now that we have the cysteine versus cystine confusion handled — what about NAC? N-Acetyl Cysteine, or NAC, is the supplement form of the amino acid cysteine, so even though you can’t eat N-Acetyl Cysteine foods, you can eat cystine or cysteine foods.

    The USDA lists the recommended daily intake of the amino acid cystine as 1.9 mg per pound of body weight, so someone weighing 150 pounds should aim for 285 mg of cystine per day. They don’t give the requirement in its cysteine form.

    https://www.livestrong.com/article/531520-food-sources-of-n-acetyl-cysteine/

    2 eggs or a 130g of lentils seem to be the best veggie options for getting the RDA of cystine, easy for omnivores as 180g of beef/pork/chicken/tuna all contain the RDA, too. Worth noting that RDAs are often set so low as to have no effect (as this benefits big pharma), so if looking for therapeutic doses, you’ll need a lot more than 2 eggs a day – I think this is where supplements can be useful, use when ill and eat a diet that’s got enough of whatever you’re looking for to establish a reasonable bade-line level.

    • David says:

      I think you’ll find that some animal products are richer in *bioavailable* selenium than Brazil nuts are. But the nuts may be a good source of it compared to other plant foods.

      I was a vegan once … middle to late 1970s. I couldn’t maintain my health that way. So I went back to eating eggs and dairy as well.

      I later found aged >60 that I was very vit.D deficient and couldn’t make enough even in summer. Not surprising in the UK.

      • Data on life expectancies seems to say that strict vegans have poor life expectancies. People who eat dairy and eggs, and perhaps fish, do much better. Vegetables are of course important, too.

  14. Fast Eddy says:

    More explanations for the excess deaths we are seeing in heavily vaccinated countries around the world from the analyst Josh Stirling.

    https://www.theflstandard.com/top-insurance-analyst-600-000-americans-per-year-are-dying-from-covid-shots/

    @DowdEdward

    The Florida Standard (https://www.theflstandard.com/top-insurance-analyst-600-000-americans-per-year-are-dying-from-covid-shots/)
    600,000 Americans Per Year Are Dying From COVID Shots Says Top Insurance Analyst

    Former Bernstein senior analyst Josh Stirling draws a shocking conclusion from UK government health data.

    norm – shot 7!!!

    • Ed says:

      Remarkable there is no anger from the people. I d not watch broadcast TV I am guessing it is not on the TV? So it does not exist.

      • Rodster says:

        “I am guessing it is not on the TV? So it does not exist.”

        Actually it’s probably more along the lines of, “if it hasn’t happened to me, it doesn’t exist”. That sums up people like norm.

        • NomadicBeer says:

          Bingo!
          Do you remember the scenes at vaccination centre’ where someone is carried out on a stretcher past a long line of people? Not one of them left the line!

          I believe we are all born with a seed of free will. Most people cannot wait to destroy that seed and live like willing slaves.

          I am thankful to the psychopaths for teaching me this harsh lesson.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            BTW – zombies brains only function is to carry out the commands from CNNBBC…

            It’s the programming.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          When I tried to warn one person citing specifics of people I know who had severe injuries I was told – we are all boosted and we are all fine – not interested.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        I was in Canada and embedded with people who watch Tee Vee for a couple of weeks… fully Rat Juiced… they are 100% oblivious to all of this …

        The anti vaxxers assume that surely everyone must be aware of this .. but it’s a parallel universe .. totally unaware

        And even if they were — see norm — it does not matter… they don’t believe it… and they go for shot 7! lucky 7.

        Just thinking … my first encounter with Pure MOREONISM was decades ago… and it all started with The Terrorist PR stuff…. I can recall encounters with MOREONS who despised the terrorists so virulently that spittle would fly when they spewed CNNBBC catch phrases about how evil they were.

        I recall asking what they would do if a foreign country such as China invaded them — overthrew their govt … installed a puppet … and siphoned off all your country’s resources…

        We’d fight back!!!

        Do you think maybe they are fighting back but the only thing is they don’t have fighter jets and aircraft carriers so instead they do whatever they can such as strapping on crude bombs and attacking their enemies? Do you not think they’d prefer to use fighter jets and artillery?

        This was the first time I experienced The Wall of Silence. aka Stooopidity / MORONISM.

        Logic and facts will at most shut them up – they won’t change their minds

        CCNBBC (and HUFF!) tell them what to think … it’s not called programming for nuthin.

  15. MG says:

    AI reveals the truth:

    “Yudkowsky is not some random Cassandra. He leads the Machine Intelligence Research Institute, a nonprofit in Berkeley, California, and has already written extensively on the question of artificial intelligence. I still remember vividly, when I was researching my book Doom, his warning that someone might unwittingly create an AI that turns against us — “for example,” I suggested, “because we tell it to halt climate change and it concludes that annihilating Homo sapiens is the optimal solution.” It was Yudkowsky who some years ago proposed a modified Moore’s law: Every 18 months, the minimum IQ necessary to destroy the world drops by one point.”

    https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2023-04-09/artificial-intelligence-the-aliens-have-landed-and-we-created-them?sref=WdOW8LxT

  16. Tim Groves says:

    John Paul has a new post up entitled SARS-CoV-2 and the importance of antioxidation. I think this information is invaluable for people who face viral respiratory diseases and for all of us who are dealing with inflammation and aging, apart from supermen like Norman, who have their own secrets. It’s a long post, but I’d like to quote the last part, which contains the advice.

    And of course, if you don’t believe in viruses or in supplements, you can skip this post entirely.

    https://hiddencomplexity.substack.com/p/sars-cov-2-and-the-importance-of

    Since quite a few readers asked me, here is my suggestion on when, and how to use specific supplements.

    Given the last 3 years I recommend taking selenium either as a multivitamin or standalone daily, regardless of your health status or diet, but the higher your carbohydrate intake, the more selenium you will need.

    One could either choose Liposomal Glutathione or NAC+Glycine (It is literally in the name of Glutathione – γ-glutamyl>cysteinylglycine<)

    When to take it → If you have chronic inflammation of any level, chronic diseases, diabetes, or chronic infections most likely you need 500-100 mg of Glutathione 1200 to 1800 mg of NAC, the same amount of Glycine for a good few weeks, a healthy person with good diet doesn’t need such aggresive supplementation.

    The older you are the higher your dosage, you can easily supplement GRAMS per day.

    Another choice for anyone healthy or any level of ill is cycling, meaning spending X amount of weeks taking the dosage you are comfortable with, X amount of weeks off, supplements are not drugs, they take time to have any perceptible effect, therefore a minimum of 4 weeks on are necessary.

    Not a suggestion but a very strong worded recommendation is taking all of the aforementioned supplements after each and Every. Single. Respiratory. Infection.

    One could use the same approach towards other diseases, but after each respiratory infection is almost a must. SARS-CoV-2 has already been linked with the development and acceleration of neurodegenerative diseases, the Spanish Flu had the same effect, and many other pathogens will soon follow, with pandemic ones being more pertinent to these dynamics.

    As I wrote recently, if all fails, the body has very few other ways to deal with unwanted anything inside your body. Neurodegeneration development and acceleration are a byproduct of such “last resort”. This will also help in the function of your immune system, and protect many from one of the clearest “aftereffects” of this pandemic. Inflammaging (I highly recommend anyone to read my substacks regarding the subject again, you definitely should take it to heart).

    • Jan says:

      You might want to consider a Keto diet, instead of eating sugar and flower and then daily gramms of supplements to compensate the effects.

      Corbonate heavy food started about 100 years ago, because the coal industry could sell their production remains as fertilzer – that helped mainly sugar beets and potatoes.

  17. I AM THE MOB says:

    Pretty obvious that nearly every business that isn’t “essential” is going under.

    And then we will be locked down forever. (cause there won’t be anywhere to go)

    • I’m not sure that this is the case.

      There still may be some tag-along businesses that make it. People give the example of video games allowing the overall cost of the internet to be affordable.

      If we still extract oil, we will have 100% of whatever is extracted to use. We will need to keep refineries sufficiently full to keep operating them. We will need trained engineers to fix them when they need fixing.

      We also know that hunter-gatherers often adorn themselves with paints and beads. Perhaps crafts of various kinds will persist, regardless of how locked down a society seems to be be.

  18. Fast Eddy says:

    Disney is committing suicide … in the name of Mass D…

    Why do that unless the PR Team has ordered you to do it cuz UEP is coming

    https://youtu.be/KEsUh7zxsd0

  19. jigisup says:

    All products locked up in SF Target.
    What you get assigned a employee to open as you shop?

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/YYsl9iWOCEdJ/

    • I remember that my first business trip was to San Francisco. I stayed a couple of extra days to walk around and explore. San Francisco was a pretty city to walk around at that time, but I was told to be very careful to watch out for pick pockets and people who might want to steal my purse.

      Now, it is hard to believe that young person would want to walk around and explore San Francisco alone.

    • reante says:

      There was a glimpse to the left where it looked like the adjoining aisle was not locked up, so I’m assuming the video was of the totality or near totality of the locked-up area.

  20. Retired Librarian says:

    I was thinking about the earlier discussion of chemicals in meat. Thousand Hills Cattle Company is a business that offers organic & grassfed beef online. They address MRNA vaccines in animals. Some people who only eat a small amount of meat are willing to pay the higher prices involved.

    • ivanislav says:

      Am I in the Truman Show? This is becoming an advertising forum. Thousand Hills Cattle Company. Bison brand knives and axes. Maybe this is a cue that I should make a GPT4-bot to post affiliate links in every niche online forum.

      Heck, I bet most of you are bots anyways. Maybe I’m a bot too.

      • Retired Librarian says:

        @Ivan. I learned about the possibilty of MRNA vax for animals on this blog. I went looking & found its actually out there for some companies, not just here and in Substack Land. If I dont give a company name, how can I say it’s true? No one gave links to these places. I believe both Gail & Lurker discussed these issues today, but didn’t go back for a thread.

        • ivanislav says:

          I appreciate your comments in general and your comment here was indeed reasonable. I should have restrained myself / reconsidered.

          • Retired Librarian says:

            I enjoyed your “Ted K” observation! Had been wondering myself about that.
            I’m more of a reader, and do appreciate those of you who write for me. Pretty sure you are not a bot😉.
            Thanks.

            • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

              only a bot would vehemently deny being a bot.

              Ted = Herbie?

              susspicious.

            • Foolish Fitz says:

              David, yes about Ted, but there is no effort to hide it. Talk about airports, archeology and nutty e has a certain ring to it.

              As for the other two, one is still posting(+). Haven’t noticed the other, under any new name.

          • Jon F says:

            Well done….and you also make a valid point. In the pre-covid era, this was mostly a discussion forum…Harry McGibbs was really the only individual posting a slew of links everyday….but these days, post after post after post offer links to other people’s work…many times with no personal comment or explanatory text….

            I think the scamdemic has caused this forum to mutate into an info sharing site….because it became clear in 2020 that mainstream institutions were beyond corrupt and any info coming from them was not to be trusted….

            Amidst the confusion and hysteria of early 2020, ZH and this forum became invaluable resources….probably saved many of their readers from jab injuries etc…

            So yes, this forum does read like a classifieds at times….but it’s really just people offering up FYIs…..of course caveat emptor….

          • Dennis L. says:

            Nice,

            Dennis L.

      • Replenish says:

        How about a Zhivago-bot?

        Am I living in the Truman Show?
        The personal life is dead.

        How can I keep living to the same standards in a 4 bedroom house with increasing inflation and energy costs?
        There is room for 3 more families in your house. This is a more just and equitable situation comrade.

        What if I don’t like Mexican food?
        Try eating out of your garden and living in the summer kitchen at your palace in the Ural mountains.

      • Jan says:

        More likely some anti vaxx cattle hacked your account!

    • I AM THE MOB says:

      They aren’t putting it in meat cause it would kill the animals. DUH

      And when you cook meat it kills the bacteria. DUH

    • drb753 says:

      why go to a company when there are thousands of small farms that will sell you direct? their directory is in eatwild.com. I used to buy steers from a guy who had a christmas tree plantation, and used the steers to keep it clean of weeds. not much mrna there. his two butchers were good too.

      • Dennis L. says:

        drb,
        In the US sale of slaughtered meat must be from a USDA approved facility even when on a farm.

        Not sure this works.

        Dennis L.

        • jazzguitarvt says:

          Not true. I sell lamb slaughtered on my farm in Vermont, butchered elsewhere. Sold “on the hoof” in half or whole shares.

        • drb753 says:

          Thanks. I bought slaughtered animals from farms and small butchers for over a decade in Ohio and Michigan. small butchers used to survive on deer dressing but now they do a lot, if not a majority, of grass fed business.

  21. Fast Eddy says:

    MassD https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/74838

    Midwife Kelly McDermott take a bow, during the Plandemic, she gave “vaccination” cards to the unjabbed and destroyed doses.

    Even though Sage-Femme was a small midwife practice, it turned into one of the busiest vaccination sites in New York State, outpacing large, state-run “vaccination sites” 😂

    https://www.justice.gov/usao-edny/pr/two-certified-nurse-midwives-one-licensed-practical-nurse-and-two-business-owners

    • Ed says:

      small world

      • Student says:

        Hello Ed, you make me remind a very nice song, which belong to another era, but I think you may like it.
        I fell in love with it at the time. Still very nice.
        Armony and melody which authors cannot create now, because the general mood is in minor and diminished chords…
        It was a very nice and happy world.
        Have you and all a nice evening.

    • Adonis says:

      she will rot in prison no one crosses the elders

  22. Fast Eddy says:

    Returning to her position in the psyop division of the cia https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/74831

  23. TIm Groves says:

    The media, at least in the UK, used to make Ronald Reagan out to be a moreon. But he actually had some astute moments. As a thinker, he was up there with Charlton Heston. Here he is on fascism coming to America..

    • reante says:

      And of course Two-bit Ronnie didn’t have the faintest idea what he was talking about. He was just running boilerplate Big C Conservative interference, like pretty much every Conservative since.

      When fascism/corporatism gets more powerful than government — like, um, um, um, when private corporate banks rule the world — it doesn’t matter what effing size the government is does it? It could have ten people in it or it could have ten million people in it but either way the banks and their downstream affiliates have total control. The size of government merely correlates with the level of complexity. Did Reagan shrink government? No he didn’t. Government grew under Reagan just like it presumably with everyone else. Did he deregulate? If he did them it was corporate deregulation.

      • Tim Groves says:

        As I said, right up there with Charlton Heston.

        I’m by no means an expert, but I googled “Ronald Reagan government shrinkage” an this came up at the top:

        The net effect of all Reagan-era tax bills resulted in a 1% decrease of government revenues (as a percentage of GDP), with the revenue-shrinking effects of the 1981 tax cut (-3% of GDP) and the revenue-gaining effects of the 1982 tax hike (~+1% of GDP), while subsequent bills were more revenue-neutral.

        So, if that is on the ball. It’s arguable that Ronnie did shrink government. Although why anyone would want to engage in such an argument, and why anyone would get triggered over it—especially someone who butchers animals with his bare hands—is beyond me. I guess you are just a naturally excitable fellow.

        We get it. You don’t like Reagan. Fine. But his record was not as poor as you’ve described it, even if that’s how you remember it.

        Deregulation? Apart from corporate deregulation, what other kind is there?

        Hint:
        Definition (Oxford English Dictionary)
        Deregulation (noun) the removal of regulations or restrictions, especially in a particular industry.

        We all know you think you are smart, but your responses are rapidly descending into moreon territory. The way to fix this is to slow down a bit and think a bit harder before hitting the Post Comment button.

        • reante says:

          You called that Reagan clip an astute moment. At the latest, fascism came to America in 1913 with the FRNs issued by the Creature From Jekyll Island along with the institution of a federal income tax in that same private currency. Which is why I said Reagan didn’t have the faintest idea what he was talking about. Which is why you also don’t.

          Your argument regarding size of government is terrible. Republicans get elected in order to cut taxes, so he shaved a tiny bit off the tax revenue. He also almost tripled the federal debt in nominal terms while he was in office lol. Not unrelatedly he also increased the number of federal employees by a lot. There’s your answer.

          I wasn’t implying that there’s another kind of deregulation (although there’s a double-standard for how deregulation plays out WRT small business and big/corporate business) , I was referring to deregulation as a fake Conservative talking point in favor of small government when all it really does is weaken anti-trust laws or environmental regulations etc. Got it?

          • Tim Groves says:

            🙂 Loud and clear!

            But you were actually triggered. That’s interestin’. Slight touch of RDS (Reagan Derangement Syndrome)?

            And I’m not implying that you are anything other than a stable genius with an IQ up there in the stratosphere. But that deregulation comment read like it could have come out of Dan Quayle or Forest Gump. You’ve got to see the funny side of it?

            • reante says:

              The original deregulation statement was an antifascist expression. If I have a conversation with a big C Conservative like yourself, and they’re talking about Dem regulations just killing the country I’ll remind them that deregulation on balance only ever helps the Corporations in their fascist extermination of small businesses wherever possible. In antifascist circles, Tim, the word Corporate means big business. So try reading for comprehension instead.

              I’m an animal which means I have emotions. The term “triggered” is a term expressly relating to the fear response. Obviously nothing in this conversation initiated an uncontrolled fear response in me.

              Get it together.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              This village is surrounded by mountains making it a doomie prepper paradise – cuz the mountains protect from spent fuel pond fall out

              https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/village-weggis-lake-lucerne-surrounded-swiss-alps-panorama-image-vierwaldstatersee-pilatus-mountain-79066571.jpg

          • Ed says:

            It started with Lincoln. His military destruction of the free states of the south ended the United States and created America. America a military empire looking to grow and control.

            • reante says:

              Sure we could pick out a lot of key figures. Hamilton, Franklin, the list goes on. “The Money Masters documentary is a great look at the struggle for the US, between the fascist victor and national socialism (republicanism).

        • postkey says:

          “29:22 it’s able archer 83 there’s a nato
          29:25 exercise
          29:26 it almost brought about the end of the
          29:28 world
          29:29 because nato was was testing their
          29:31 nuclear command and control
          29:34 and the russians looked at that and said
          29:36 we don’t think this is a test we think
          29:37 this is the real thing
          29:39 and so as the as nato started issuing
          29:42 launch codes
          29:43 for training purposes the russians went
          29:46 full alert
          29:47 and all it would have taken was a bird
          29:49 to hiccup
          29:51 and the missiles would have flown and
          29:52 the world would have ended and abel
          29:54 archer when ronald reagan found out
          29:55 about abel archer 83 he went pale
          29:59 ronald reagan mr evil empire
          30:01 went pale and that’s when he said we
          30:03 have to change this calculus
          30:06 so do we really want to recreate a
          30:08 situation so that an american president
          30:10 goes pale to before we disarm or should
          30:13 we have already invented that wheel
          30:16 and just say we don’t need these weapons
          30:19 well that’s the situation in the world
          30:20 today it’s a very dangerous situation”

    • drb753 says:

      when he was diagnosed with dementia, no one noticed. this clip is pure Maggie Thatcher philosophy: not rooted in facts, or physics, the priests of the “free markets” religion. and market are as free as the original conception was immaculate.

      • Tim Groves says:

        Turned out to be prescient though, didn’t it?

        Perhaps it’s been the plan all along to build up a totalitarian left in the US in order to scare the mass of ordinary people into voting for the conservafascist right? And perhaps Reagan was privy to that plan?

        Did you ever come across David Korten’s book, When Corporations Rule the World? I bought and read it shortly after it first came out in 1992. It’s a bit dated now, as the situation has evolved quite a bit in the past three decades. “Restoring democracy and rooting economic power in people and communities” sounds like an impossible dream today.

        When Corporations Rule the World explains how economic globalization has concentrated the power to govern in global corporations and financial markets and detached them from accountability to the human interest. It documents the devastating human and environmental consequences of the successful efforts of these corporations to reconstruct values and institutions everywhere on the planet to serve their own narrow ends. It also reveals why and how millions of people are acting to reclaim their political and economic power from these elitist forces and presents a policy agenda for restoring democracy and rooting economic power in people and communities.

        https://www.amazon.com/Corporations-World-Kumarian-Press-Books/dp/1887208003/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=

        • drb753 says:

          If oil production was still ramping up he would not have been prescient at all. eventually he is going to be right because we are going back to totalitarian regimes due to energy shortages.

        • reante says:

          Global fascism (plutocracy) is extreme Right-wing politics. Neoliberalism is the ‘Thatcher-Reagan’ socioeconomic devil spawn new world order. The ‘Left’ stuff you are talking about is merely the fake veneer of identity politics. A grand misdirection play in effect. There IS no functioning Left, Tim. It’s all fake circuses. Every single woketard’s structural life is neoliberal through and through because the consumer architecture is neoliberal.

          Things are not what they appear. Globalism is extreme-Right socioeconomics wherein Capital has reached its full extractive potential. It’s the elders’ wet dream. It IS the New World Order that they talked about. The plandemic was orgasmic for them. It was their crowning achievement of Capitalism; they leveraged money so well in the mind of Mankind that they were able to pull that off. It was the swan song. Now they are restructuring away from it and towards a True Left anticapitalist politics out of necessity. And the fake Left identity politics of neoliberalism is and will come in handy during this transition, as will the nationalist Right which is also to the Left of Global Fascism.

          • in the face of plenty, fascism dies

            when scarcity appears, fascism emerges again

            proven time and again

            • reante says:

              Wrong conclusion about fascism based on the wrong definition of fascism. If you were correct then the 1950s would have heralded the disappearance of multinational industrial corporations and banks rather than what happened which was the explosion of them onto the scene.

  24. Retired Librarian says:

    Where is Withnail?
    Where is Banned?

  25. Fast Eddy says:

    Coronavirus-HIV Mutants Were Discussed in NIH-funded Work that Led to COVID-19
    Are you okay with “Airborne AIDS” Mutants, and Can we “Trust the Science”?

    However, HIV is not very contagious. It cannot target cellular receptors found in human lungs, for example. One cannot get HIV via the airborne route: HIV infections require blood-to-blood transmission, and HIV-carrying aerosols cannot infect human respiratory systems.

    A pseudovirus that can infect human ACE2 cells, which are present in our lungs, is one step closer to airborne transmission: an aerosol carrying ACE-2-binding HIV mutant could infect someone upon being breathed in.

    Is the research that creates ACE-2-infecting HIV mutants, which may be contagious via the respiratory route, safe? What if these recombinants escape the laboratory?

    https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/coronavirus-hiv-mutants-were-discussed

    Is this Phase Two of the Binary Poison?

    Dr. Lee Merritt explains how mRNA Vaccines killed animals during testing and how MRNA Vaccines could be used to kill millions of people by first injecting people with the So Called Vaccine and then releasing a counterpart even years later to be killed at will – She calls this a Binary Poison (as it’s in two parts) https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/70925

    Full interview https://humansarefree.com/2021/01/dr-lee-merritt-animal-studies-mrna-technology-all-animals-died.html

    So when they are pushing on a string with the global economy – which appears to be imminent ….

    https://surplusenergyeconomics.wordpress.com/2023/03/13/251-the-everything-crisis/

    http://charleshughsmith.blogspot.com/2023/03/the-everything-bubble-and-global.html

    https://brownstone.org/articles/a-world-on-fire/

    Next up – they will release Part 2. and exterminate all the vaxxed… and the unvaxxed starve

    Utopia S2 — mentions releasing a virus using crop duster planes… (aerosol)… here we see in the final scene cannisters of a virus – prepped for release https://youtu.be/Z_O_Ly8REqk?t=137

    Are we about to live through S3 of Utopia?

    • I really doubt this will happen. I can imagine war before this kind of thing.

      • ivanislav says:

        Gail, I don’t know about this binary poison stuff, but airborne HIV is a real possibility now. AI/ML-based protein design methods make it a simple matter of swapping spike proteins between viruses. I’ve mentioned this in the past – there are now many people in the world capable of doing this, unfortunately. This new capability is a recent development – December 2022.

        One thing that might prevent a bad actor is that DNA synthesis companies screen the DNA being created against known pathogens and will alert authorities.

      • Adonis says:

        Anything Is Possible according to dwindling resources may only be 20 years of viable resources left so it makes sense to ration the available remaining resources Utopia season 3 could be correct

      • Fast Eddy says:

        You can take the Binary Poison to the bank … 6B are primed to detonate…

        And why not thermo nuclear war… combined with starvation?

        Pound the remaining 2B into extinction.

        There are no half measures involved — whatever it takes >>> whatever it takes.

    • Jan says:

      I think the biggest problem is that governments make false investment decisions to fake success. How much does GDP grow after investment into the mRNA technology, into alternative energy, into digital money?

      Population reduction leads to a decline of GDP. A larger reduction could only be done with a reset in economy.

      As I don’t trust people that have once shown they have no human limits, I concede the possibility of a Binary Poison. But I guess the less complicated way is to use the original antigenic sin or immune imprinting mechanism that allegedly may lead to a cycotin storm or sepsis, when a vaccinated is infected with the wildvirus.

      I don’t see that a reduction could help to avoid the end of BAU, if Gail’s considerations are right, but I think it could easen a new start as the overuse of resources would be limited (the rabbits eat the roots in the model of carrying capacity).

  26. Fast Eddy says:

    hahaha … this is one step away from mad max https://t.me/leaklive/13740
    https://t.me/leaklive/13744

    • Adonis says:

      Fast Eddie we aren’t going into mad max the elders are talking us into a short depression according to a conspiracy theorist named Daniel estulin and then full bore green economy for ten years after that it will be fast Eddie challenge world forever and ever you were right all along

      • Cromagnon says:

        That would fit into the prophetic engineering guidelines quite nicely. The great solar flash will come after the tribulations are complete.

      • Sam says:

        I have been thinking this too but I’m torn between the elders have a plan or they are complete idiots. When I see some of the things in the Biden administration I think complete idiots. They can’t be that creative…and that’s a scary thought but I think they are complete idiots and no one is driving the bus’! I have met high ranking officials and they are idiots so there you go. Buckle up! I don’t think we have ten years… sorry

    • I AM THE MOB says:

      They want “mad max”

      So, they can justify bringing the hammer down on everyone. And bring in UN troops. (just peace keepers)

  27. Fast Eddy says:

    Won’t happen

    Dr. Lawrence Palevsky: “We Are Being Cornered into Eating Fake Foods”

    “The Department of Agriculture is not giving you a food pyramid that is of any health at all,” voiced Dr. Palevsky. “They’re giving you an industry food pyramid.”

    Listen to what he recommends eating instead.

    Watch the full episode on #CHDTV:

    https://live.childrenshealthdefense.org/chd-tv/shows/friday-roundtable/vaccines-the-gut–autism/

  28. Fast Eddy says:

    FYI https://youtu.be/gY6k8UICe1o

    This is for those who want to avoid the stress of that EEE AWWWW bullsh.it blaring out their phones when the cannisters are released

  29. jigisup says:

    New variant with both omicron and delta genetics. This is a good overview of gene sequencing theory. Charge theory is presented. This makes sense because things move largely because of electrical charge in the body. Blood moves because of electrical charge. The heart is electrical in nature.

    Virus isolation is claimed. Certainly science is not limited to visual observation but I would call attention to the radical difference in between the models they create and the image.

    If this much effort is put into sampling in the population to discover new virus mutations why is there not similar effort in mapping the spike proteins and electrical charge characteristics being created in the body post injection/gene edit?

    Listening to the presentation it appears they know much about the charge characteristics of spike proteins created by the viruses. This characteristic is harmful. This characteristic is benign. Why are these same mapping techniques and understanding not being applied to the spike proteins being produced in the body as a result of the gene edit across wide cross sections of the populations injected? Why is active searching and huge research allocation to examine virus populations across the globe but no effort to examine spike protein from gene edit characteristics in injected populations? The very premise of this technology is that the body can be turned into a manufacturing process to create a spike protein with desirable characteristics. Why is there no resource allocation to confirm that premise by sampling populations and seeing how well the goal of creating specific characteristics and charge profile was achieved in spike proteins created by the gene edit?

    THe varability of dosing from the gene edit and where it is distributed in the body would also seem to be questions of interest but wouldnt the actual substance created would be a good start. All of these things bring many questions to my mind about the wisdom of implementing this unknown technology in the manner it was. Shouldnt we at least see the results of the experiment rather than catalog new viruses?

    Good Vid.

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/SgtLWVM8F0bT/

  30. Fast Eddy says:

    Baby Killers – hahaha… I guarantee you — this ain’t about $$$

    Up to 28 February 2021, 673 cases were identified. 458 of these involved vaccine exposure to the mother or fetus during pregnancy and 215 involved exposure during breast-feeding. (Remember all the fact checkers saying babies can’t be exposed during breast-feeding, even though Pfizer had this data).

    Out of the 458 cases involving exposure to the mother or fetus, 210 were reported with no associated adverse events. Of the remaining 248 cases there were 53 spontaneous abortions which represents 12% of the total.

    Of the 53 reported spontaneous abortions, 14 were excluded from the review due to medical histories including endometriosis, previous spontaneous abortions, polycystic ovaries, irregular menstruation and for being Covid positive. Looking at the remaining 39 cases, most spontaneous abortions occurred a number of days or weeks after vaccination.

    Six of the cases resulted in premature deliveries. One baby developed fetal tachycardia (fast heart rate) 1 week after the mother received her second dose. The baby was delivered at 35 weeks due to non-reassuring status during monitoring post vaccination and hospitalised for 5 days. The clinical outcome of the tachycardia was unknown.

    Another female had spontaneous rupture of membrane at 36 weeks, one day after her second dose. Unspecified therapeutic measures were taken as a result of the rupture and the mother was recovering. No mention of what happened to the baby. A second female experienced preterm premature rupture of membranes as well.

    One baby received the vaccine through the placenta and died a day after premature labour. Another experienced foetal exposure during pregnancy and died at 26 weeks. The sixth baby was also exposed via the placenta and was delivered at 24 weeks. There was no mention as to whether this baby survived.

    Of the 215 cases which reported exposure via lactation, 174 had no adverse events recorded other than ‘exposure via breast milk’. However of the remaining cases, 10 were recorded as serious, six of which were in the infants. Events included skin exfoliation, rashes, swollen skin and unspecified sickness.

    https://nakedemperor.substack.com/p/new-pfizer-document-pregnancy-and

  31. Fast Eddy says:

    Rat Juice rots the brain … https://palexander.substack.com/p/ryan-petrick-39-years-old-reports/

    But they will not connect it… nope… Safe >> Effective.

    hahaha.. MORE BOOSTERS for the MOREONS!

    Damn the PR Team is good – Covid causes Cancer…

    Remember how they said it damaged the body organs — of course it was the Rem-DEATH-isnear drug that did that .. but they don’t know that either

    They are as fearful of Covid as ever. Maybe more now that they are reading it causes all that cancer they are hearing about.

    Better get More Boosters — cuz of course the Rat Juice stops you from getting Covid (even though they’ve all had it multiple times hahaha)

    The life of a MOREON is one of total confusion … even reading Huff does not provide much clarity

  32. Student says:

    (Il Tempo)

    ‘Italian warships go to the Chinese Sea, it is an help to US for the Taiwan situation.
    Italy is also on the field now in one of the most delicate games in the geopolitical scenario, the one in which China is determined to retake the island of Taiwan by force. At the request of the United States Italy is launching new naval patrols and military missions in the Pacific.
    Washington calls, Rome answers.”

    https://www.iltempo.it/attualita/2023/04/22/news/taiwan-navi-da-guerra-italiane-verso-cina-portaerei-cavour-ucraina-nato-35583581/

    Very good, after we have broken relationship with Russa, now we are going towards breaking relationship with China.
    When we will have completed the process, we will be asked to swallow the cyanide pill. Or have we already taken?

    • jigisup says:

      Welcome to the owned by bankers club. Italy will be forgiven.

      USA will not be forgiven. Hate for USA is the glue that binds BRICS together. Its like Trump. You can ignore a lot of things about your own thesis if its NOT thesis x. So the USA may be kept around for some time to ensure BRICS harmony. The millisecond USA is gone BRICS participants lose unity.

      BRICS ethical and moral foundation exists basically because of one principled man. Vladimir Putin. The liberal philosopher trying to make the world a better place. Will his ideas of each nation having their resources valued in a fair manner with a fair money system persevere after he and the USA is gone? BRICS birthing will largely consist of opposition to the USA. Slaying the ogre is a fundamental part of its composition. Will that be discarded after ogre is slain? Well hell thats not very fun.

      The problem with promising rose gardens is there are none. After the ogre is slain everyone goes wheres the roses.

      Time will tell.

      • Jan says:

        The BRICSS are glued together by the hope to maintain their fossile based industry production and use their resources for their own ‘development’.

        It is made possible by Russia and China, who keep a huge military to secure investments, and by the very talented and well educated Russian, Chinese and partly Indian scientists, engineers and economists.

    • Ed says:

      China has no interest in a war with Taiwan. Taiwan has no interest in a war with the mainland. The only party that wants a war is the U.S.. Don’t let the U.S. force/trick/bribe Italy into starting a war.

    • Bam_Man says:

      OK, time to cue the “Italian Navy” Jokes.
      “Why do all their warships have glass bottoms? So they can see where they’re going…”

  33. jigisup says:

    The strange coco bond. By definition the bond holder holds all the risk. These are tier 1? Id hate to see tier 2.

    One theory was cocos were the plan to keep the ponzi going. They seem to be a bond with built in bail in . Tier 1 would seem to be not the safest bonds- au contraire- but the bonds that have the best ponzi club benefits. The bottom blocks of the pyramid painted gold. Free toaster with purchase!

    That means institutions that hold them must have a desire to be in the club. Talk is Saudi got hurt bad in credit suisse mark tier 1 to zero. Coincidentally they seem to not have much interest in club membership any more.

    A IOU written with disappearing ink. What will they think of next!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contingent_convertible_bond

    • reante says:

      Maybe the Saudi loss is a foreshadowing. Maybe the House of Saud will be toppled the new fashioned way, by targeting their cumulative stake in the global ponzi. Fomenting their financial collapse ahead of everyone else’s. Wouldn’t that be shocking, Saudi going first? Oh lawd have mercy on us all! The cannibals are coming!

      • jigisup says:

        “by targeting their cumulative stake in the global ponzi.”

        Sanction Saudi? After observing the benefits of Russia sanctions it is sanctioning itself. Stick turns to carrot.

        Its not a very nice club. Saudi cocos go to zero just like Russian cash reserves.

        • reante says:

          Sorry no I just meant tailoring/manufacturing financial collapse to destabilize Saudi Arabia first, or have it be among the first. As if they hand-picked SVB for failure in part because it would hurt the HOS the most, and then continuing to do that. Is that possible? I don’t know but it’s not as implausible to me as it used to be lol.

          This is related to my Horsetrading Theory of Everything, in which the US is slated to commandeer Saudi oil (but not take all of it). Also related to the fact — nay, rooted in the fact — that Aramco is just a front company for the elder-owned Standard Oil.

          • jigisup says:

            I sure dont know. I think they certainly know who is going to take a haircut after all it cant cause more contagion. This is a very complex topic and I am a simple caveman but bonds are supposed to be safe and these strange creatures are not. Coco bonds could be called poof bonds. It appears to me they are specifically created to go poof in a financial crisis to have the books balance. Doesnt seem like a very desirable financial instrument to me but if you are neck deep in digital FRNs the free toaster might seem nice. The coco bonds performed as designed financially. POOF.

            The trick is having the poof owned by someone who wont cause contagion. I suspect the opposite is true. The Saudis were not chosen as bagholders because they would go insolvent but because they wouldnt. Regardless its like a nightmare time share for them they just want out. Spilt milk is spilt milk but dont put another gallon in a bowel on the lawn chair.

            • reante says:

              yeah that’s a sound orthodox analysis to my heterodox one. Thanks. We shall have to wait and see.

          • reante says:

            Or was it the swiss bank Saudi Arabia took the hit on? I can’t remember already. Yeah it must be that one.

          • postkey says:

            “Mike Gill told Brendon that 97% of the deposits at Silicon Valley Bank (SVB) were giant New Hampshire drug money accounts in the billions. SVB recently merged with Boston Private Bank and Trust, which is actually a New Hampshire Corporation whose previous directors include two attorneys general of the State of New Hampshire, Joseph Foster and Michael Delaney, who Gill claims were placed there by the Shaheens and who were running for cover for the Cartel.”?

            “ . . . and think of where that money went? SVB had 500 Isreali startups . . . ” 1:19:17 in ?
            https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/savage-reveal-of-american-cartels-michael-flynn-james-okeefe-drug-money-treasons/#comment-49370

  34. Mirror on the wall says:

    “De-dollarisation – India and Bangladesh join hands”

    De-dollarisation continues to become a thing. Remember, India is a major friend of USA.

    Everyone is shifting away from the dollar now – China, Russia, India, Bangladesh, Saudi, Turkiye, Iran, Brazil, BRICS as a whole, Indonesia, ASEAN as a whole, &c. Even EU leaders openly questioned the dollar this week.

    USA really blew up the dollar dominance when it announced the freeze of Russia’s dollar reserves, and the exclusion of Russia from the SWIFT exchange. It was an astonishing blunder.

    Everyone is minimising their exposure to USA sabotage of their economies and state finances now, and developing alternative trading arrangements and exchange mechanisms.

    USA dollar hegemony is fast collapsing, and the impact on USA inflation, economic and financial stability, and living standards is liable to be devastating.

  35. Student says:

    (GCaptain)

    New Zealand has decided to keep for itself its meat.

    ”New Zealand Officially Ends Live Animal Exports By Sea”.

    https://gcaptain.com/new-zealand-officially-ends-live-animal-exports-by-sea/

    • reante says:

      “Live” being the operative word there. That’s an anti-immemigration crackdown. At least we got some Kikos out before it was too late.

  36. Ted Kaczynski says:

    Norm pointed out energy sinks…this one is one that gets attention…

    Most believe “Real Estate” is a great wealth builder and will continue to be so….

    I question that mindset …..it’s a ponzi scheme…

    Why Asphalt Roofs Fail
    Modern Asphalt shingles have been shown to display signs of deterioration far before their warranty is up. In fact, industry expectations are that a modern asphalt roof will last no more than 10 – 15 years.

    Asphalt shingles have been known to curl, bend, cup, shed and leak water after just one year of being installed. The decreasing quality and efficiency of asphalt shingles is caused by a few factors:

    Less Asphalt
    In the 1980’s, asphalt shingles contained approximately 80% oil. The amount of actual asphalt in modern asphalt shingles is at an all-time low. Modern asphalt shingles contain an average of only 30% asphalt. A smaller amount of asphalt means that the shingles are lower quality. This lack of asphalt causes the shingles to crack, bend and break.

    Mixed Asphalt
    Other materials that make up modern asphalt shingles include sand, limestone and other non-asphalt granules. It is all mixed together without separate binders, which ultimately results in asphalt shingles leaking. The limestone content is also what causes modern asphalt shingles to mold. If you see streaks of mold on a modern asphalt roof, this could indicate that the oil content is dried up and the shingle is near the end of its life.

    Don’t trust your family’s safety and the protection of your most valuable asset to an inferior, temporary product. Trust Green Knight ® Metal Roofing to armor your home with high-quality permanent material, that will enhance your curb appeal and the value of your home

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tI3kkk2JdoI&t=113s&pp=ygUSUG9uemkgc2NoZW1lIHVyYmFu
    This Ponzi Scheme Might END Suburban Prosperity
    Strong Towns

    I shutter to think of all the materials needed to keep a home livable today.
    My take is most will likely be abandoned…we had several around here that went into disrepair within a short time and are vacant ….

    • I hadn’t heard that the amount of asphalt going into asphalt tiles had dropped. This sounds bad!

      I understand that climate affects lifespan of tiles, as well.

      There has been some shift to metal roofs, in response to the problem with asphalt tiles, and the higher prices in recent years of oil-based products. But metal roofs require a lot of energy to make and transport to the location. The are also noisy when it rains.

      • real estate—ie land is easy to assess for value

        a house is worth only what someone else is willing to pay for it in the location it happens to be in

        the value of agricultural land is measured by the amount of energy that can be extracted from it relative to energy input

        ie—muscle power or FF based power

      • drb753 says:

        In Russia everyone has a metal roof. Part of the higher costs of living in a cold climate.

      • Ted Kaczynski says:

        Now I know why hear in Florida, Insurance Companies refuse to insure house now if the roof is older than 10 years old!

        Recently the State is going tack an additional 1% to homeowners insurance policies, in addition to all the other sharp increases in recent years

        Living in Florida Is No Longer Viable

        The Ft. Lauderdale area got 25 inches of rain in 7 hours, with more on the way

        South Florida’s water table is made of porous limestone and it is saturated. In places the water table is now saline, rendering it unsafe as a water supply for consumption. This saturation means flooding can remain in place for days or even weeks.

        Hurricane Ian stalled over central Florida last year and dumped high amounts of rain, creating flooding that in some areas did not clear for weeks. There is increasing evidence that the foundations of several high rise condo buildings are compromised enough to require that they be abandoned, sometimes overnight.

        …..All the denial is coming up against reality. Home insurers are abandoning the state, putting home ownership out of the reach of many as banks won’t issue mortgages without the protections of insurance. The insurers don’t base their decisions on politics, and their actuarial tables tell them the risk isn’t worth it.

        https://martinedic.medium.com/living-in-florida-is-no-longer-viable-4c2aaf255efa

        Thanks Gail …

      • Craig says:

        Drinking water collected from an asphalt roof doesn’t sound like a good idea

      • David says:

        us HOUSES ARE

        • David says:

          I pressed the wrong button …

          My impression is that US houses are made from extremely low-quality materials. Houses in Europe have ‘real’ roof tiles, i.e. concrete, fired clay or natural slate.

          The slates on the roof of my house were secondhand and had previously been used on the roof of at least one other building. The lifespan of Welsh slates is at least 100 years, often much more.

    • reante says:

      would you like some shakes with your froes? no thank you I can makes the shakes myself. and just the one froe, thank you.

      • Ted Kaczynski says:

        No thanks , renante, by chance I own myself and own a set of Fox Fire books, along with other Country Woodcraft titles …tools included..froe included.

        Drew Langsner wrote a number of books years ago and had a workshop course in North Carolina before retiring..

        A Thatched roof is also a good alternative if near the reeds.

        But that is the least of the many challenges with modern dwellings …how about heating and plumbing?

        Even if there is water service one needs operating faucets and toilets ….Up North without adequate heat the pipes will freeze and bust!

        Nuttie Eddie harps about the “Rat Juice” killing folks…won’t take much to have a die off of the population regardless.

        • Jan says:

          A thatched roof originally was build over an open fire that dried and smoked the reeds from beneath. All the German farm houses used to have an open roof and a fireplace without chimney, the smoke went out at openings at the gable. That concept of house construction was different to todays. If you mix both concepts, there will be problems with moisture and the roof rots away within ten years. In Germany, e.g. Sylt, a thatched roof is considered a rich man’s roof.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            What was the roof made of in Little House on the Prairie?

            • Cromagnon says:

              Most settlers copied the Pawnee and Arikaree…….lived in soddies……earth/turf houses.

              Good protection from radiation and celestial events I might add….

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Better than lead!

              The problem is the rain … it will drop toxic waste into the water table and onto the garden.

              Cancer sucks

        • reante says:

          Who said anything about modern dwellings I’m letting this MFer rot lol. Never wanted to be in it in the first place, now I know how Tim feels. Peeps be gettin in our way Tim.

          A wood stove will take care of the heating and cooking and a deep well hand pump that can pump into pressure can pressurize your pressure tank for as long as the bladder lasts and your spare sets of pump leathers last and — viola! — running water to the faucets and toilets.

          • reante says:

            And the silver lining in the cloud hanging over your head while pumping all your water by hand is that drained pipes is gonna be your default setting. Which means you probably don’t want a pressure tank with a bladder. Oops.

          • Tim Groves says:

            I liked it better when you called me Timmy. My relatives, school friends and lovers all call me Timmy. The Japanese call me Tim-san, Mr. Gloves, or Igurish, or Gaijin.

            The old farmhouse here in the Kyoto mountains was much as Jan describes. It was made of timber and wattle had a thatched roof with an opening to let the air out and an open fire called an irori. It lasted 300 years without burning down, which was a fate that befalls quite a lot of farmhouses.

            The roof had to be progressively replaced with reeds, one section each year or so for about 20 or 30 years, a bit like painting the Golden Gate Bridge.

            There was a place for the cow just inside the front door to the left. Above the cow was a small space where one of the farm helpers slept. The kitchen and the toilet were both separate buildings. Keeping the kitchen separate was to minimize the ever-present danger of a fire consuming the entire house.

            • sounds genuinely fascinating place Tim

              am intrigued by the chain of circumstance that took you there

              (Am OK with mind your own businiess btw)

            • Tim Groves says:

              It’s a long story, Norman, involving romance, wanderlust, and a desire to escape from the rat race and the housing chain I could see stretching in front of me.

              When I was working in Broadwick Street Post Office in Soho, which was just around the corner from Berwick Street Market, I was asked out by a Japanese girl who thought I looked like George Harrison…..

              She worked for the karate club run by Enoeda-sensei in the former Marshall Street Baths. I joined the club and learned the basics, although I’m not the martial arts type.

              I didn’t look very much like George Harrison, as it happens, but I was not about to argue. And you’ll have to wait until my memoirs come out to get a full account.

              At the time, London’s biggest Science Fiction and Fantasy bookshop Dark They Were and Golden-Eyed was only a hundred yards away in Saint Anne’s Court, and there was a moldy second-hand record shop called Cheapo Cheapo Records, run by a plump middle-aged hippy with stringy unkept hair who played Johnny Cash albums most of the time. So it was a cultural hub of sorts, no doubt about it.

              All long gone now, of course, even the Post Office. Disappeared like tears in rain. It lives now only in my memories.

              Here’s a video of Enoeda-sensei, who I knew quite well, thanks to the GF. He and his assistant teacher Tomita-sensei taught me to play Mah Jong. The Japanese in London were crazy about it, happily holding 48-hour sessions over the Christmas, New Year, Easter or August Bank Holidays. And I went along to make up the numbers and got really into it for a while.

              Enoeda-sensei was born in 1935, and died at the young age of 68 in 2003. around the same time as you, Norman, but he didn’t last nearly as long as you have.

            • fascinating story Tim—I had guessed at the broad outline of it, though not the details of coursel

              i used to know Berwick St market quite well in the 70s

              i guess orientals think we all look alike too

              we have a few things in common—I used to work at the post office, and had a martial artsy girlfriend—i was never that way inclined, but she was aggressive enough for both of us, though thankfully not all the time.
              —once did a citizens arrest on a wannabe mugger—i felt sorry for the poor sod in a way—never knew what hit him. Frogmarched him to the local police station.

              the post office left me with an inbuilt satnav of knowing where everywhere is….people think thats weird.

            • Tim Groves says:

              Oops! Let me untangle that last paragraph.

              Enoeda-sensei was born in 1935, around the same time as you, Norman, and died at the young age of 68 in 2003. He was dynamic in his time, and extremely fit when I knew him in the late 1970s, but he didn’t last nearly as long as you have.

            • Tim Groves says:

              Well, Norman. Working at the Post Office equips us for comping with most things.

              Letters, parcels, stamps, postal orders, national savings certificates, TV licenses, one-year passports, the old Girobank transactions, and giving tourists directions to Big Ben or Madame Tussaud’s in my case.

              “An inbuilt satnav of knowing where everywhere is” — I know the feeling.

              Except everywhere has changed so much that I’m obsolete now and the punters rely on Google instead.

              Clark’s Bakery in Berwick Street Market where it runs into a little alley. They had the most delicious rolls. Egg, cheese, or ham. I often had ’em for lunch. I can still taste ’em after all these decades.

          • Ted Kaczynski says:

            In the “Back to the Land”era of the 1970s with Mother Earth News started by John Shuttleworth and his wife Jane in a basement came forth a host of publications that I collected from used book shops in the Boston area . One, I remember well was an oversized paperback illustrated title SHELTER that reante is espousing here

            Another series of books that I recommend are from Authors Ken and Barbara Kern who lived in California with the title The Owner Built House…Homestead ECT
            Ken was an innovated architect, inventor and great talent…died from an accident while building a dome and structure. I wrote to Barbara, his wife, and she was kind enough to reply to my inquiry, nice person and I could sense she took his death hard.

            Yeah, reante, I know where you and the other primitives , for lack of better word, are coming from, unfortunately there are 8 billion of use roaming about now

            When living in North Carolina the Good Olde Boys would like to think they would hunt deer, rabbits squirrel ECT if the food ran out in the markets and forage in the forests

            Sure they all would, shooting each other in the process..

            Going down the energy ladder is going to be a b#tchin painful period

            Most of them Back to Landers of the 1970s headed back to the City within a few years time. Many are called, few actual do it, and even fewer can be good enough to hack it.

            • reante says:

              Thanks Ted. Appreciate your recognition of the civilizational root cause. When the hunting pressure on the wildlife goes off the charts at the beginning of major economic collapse, the wildlife will retreat to areas that humans will not be able to justify traveling to and from due to negative EROEI. Some intrepid souls will find adequate returns by simply following them. Then they’ll get their new lives dialed-in by patterning their movements. Other cutting edge herdsman with stand their ground amidst the tumult at the edge of civilization, and jump in and out of the edgelands as necessary, with their flocks and herds and dogs and horses and guns. These will be the pastoralists of the future, the Thanks Ted. Appreciate your recognition of the civilizational root cause. When the hunting pressure on the wildlife goes off the charts at the beginning of major economic collapse, the wildlife will retreat to areas that humans will not be able to justify traveling to and from due to negative EROEI. Some intrepid souls will find adequate returns by simply following them. Then they’ll get their new lives dialed-in by patterning their movements. Other cutting edge herdsman with stand their ground amidst the tumult at the edge of civilization, and jump in and out of the edgelands as necessary, with their flocks and herds and dogs and horses and guns. These will be the pastoralists of the future, the men and women of the transhumance mode of subsistence.and children of the transhumance mode of subsistence.

              Fundamentalists again, as before.

          • Cromagnon says:

            I am building my house around the well itself. It can be used as refrigerator and a water source.
            Earth bermed on three sides, rock walled with timber frame up front. Used rock conveyer belting on roof with sod cap.
            Russian stove

            hope I get her done before the solar event….or the nukes…
            .
            Yabba….dabba….doo….

            • Fast Eddy says:

              It’s kinda fun doomsday prepping… futile.. but it does pass the time … and it fuels the hopium pipe

            • reante says:

              you da man Cro. I need to get the ram pump installed below the falls already. wanna come help Eddy?

      • Replenish says:

        Roof on the first part of cabin was shingled around 1980.. gets partial sun and looks to be in good condition. I carefully used wire brush to remove moss that took hold from the shade of old maple tree long gone. I recently picked up a spoke shave and draw knife. Thanks for the reminder to pick up the froe. Got a Bison hunters axe on sale. Buy list includes new plane blades and bits for hand drills as well as timber slick and adze. Pro wood choppers, oat crankers and water carriers know that you can’t go wrong with real stuff but beware the haints and dryads. Now that we have a solution to airborne fallout from SFP’s lets make prepping great again!

        • Cromagnon says:

          I am curious,…what is a bison hunters axe? I have done in a lot of bison and even butchered a couple using an axe…..but I have never heard that term before.

          Aside: all new houses should adhere to Bedrock building codes. Megalithic…..aka Flintstones.

          • ivanislav says:

            I asked the granite kitchentop slab sellers how many 50-ton blocks they have in stock. They said they’re out of stock and on back order. The limestone shop wasn’t any better – all sold out to the local warlord who claims to be a Pharaoh. Ramses, I think he said.

          • Replenish says:

            Bison is the brand name.. forged steel.. can be found at Woodcraft a specialty woodworking store. I bought it for bushcraft projects. We used to take whole deer to farm butcher, now grind and freeze the meat. I mentioned to my Dad we should build a seasonal shelter out on the southside of the property near the proposed survival gardens and food plots. He suggested timber and rock rather than earthbags due to abundant materials and temp/moisture issues.

            • ivanislav says:

              From what I’ve seen, adobe/earthbag construction should only be done in arid climates unless you are willing to do additional engineering to keep it warm and dry.

            • Cromagnon says:

              Timber and rock have my vote.

          • reante says:

            After I peel the bark off the animal and roll it up and freeze it for my friend who tans, over a number of days the dogs get the torso including the kneck (I know I know) but often minus the backstraps. I chunk up the torso with a hewing axe which is also what I use to take off the feet and head, and then split the head in half lengthwise between the horns, also for the dogs. When the axe has done enough splitting to where I can pull the two halves of the head apart by hand, with some effort, I stop chopping and do so because the sound is exactly like pulling apart by hand a piece of mostly split fir or other stringy wood. Love that sound. Also like thunder when it hits just so. There’s animism in it.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              These skills will come in handy when the cannibalism phase kicks in

            • reante says:

              The breakfast club also has a course in bowlmaking. The next time I come in here I’m not crackin skulls I’m eating out of them.

        • reante says:

          Thanks Replenish for the tour. I like the itty bitty drawknife. Got me a froe and a dog named Froe too. Oregon yelliow maple coppicewood splits nice and straight and has great rot resistance too. And that’s right- don’t get so deep into the agrarian revivalism that you start seeing draints and hyads and gnomes playing a bit of moonlit footie in the clearing. We’ve got further to go.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      My brother was suggesting that the epic pot holes on the roads in northern ontario are a result of lower quality asphalt… he may be right.

  37. Mirror on the wall says:

    Bloomberg reports that the west is not really following through with the financing of UKR hostilities, and that UKR is reduced to selling off state asserts, many of which are bankrupt anyway, to maintain its war effort. Good luck with that!

    It is an utter debacle, and UKR will be basically trashed as a country at the end of this.

    It has been a complete fiasco, and massively damaging to Europe and USA, with rocketing inflation, and above all the mounting global shift from the dollar and the collapse of USA hegemony.

    The UKR situation is clearly not sustainable through fire sales of often bankrupt state assets. What a mess!

  38. CTG says:

    G7 Allies Consider Outright Ban Of All Exports To Russia

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/g7-allies-consider-outright-ban-all-exports-russia

    The first commenter said that the West is going to run out of feet to shoot themselves with

    • “The first commenter said that the West is going to run out of feet to shoot themselves with”

      LOL!

    • Student says:

      Actually it is already happening.

      The steps are the following ones:
      – G7 countries decided they buy Russian oil only if the price is under price-cap.
      – Russia has decided not to sell its oil to those Countries willing to apply price-cap system.
      (Japan is the only G7 country which has received an exclusion to that for its geographic position)
      – So, now, G7 countries (excluding Japan) are buying Russian oil through China, UAE, Saudi Arabia and other intermediaries.

      If G7 formalizes the above, it is like if a man, fully abandoned by his woman, says that he wants to stay alone because it is his own decision.

      https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/russian-crude-oil-heads-uae-sanctions-divert-flows-2023-03-06/

      https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/commodities/russian-oil-persian-gulf-uae-sanctions-saudi-arabia-cheap-ukraine-2023-4?op=1

      • Mirror on the wall says:

        “it is like if a man, fully abandoned by his woman, says that he wants to stay alone because it is his own decision”

        LOL

        At least the G7 will be able to crone, ‘I did it my way!’

        Regrets, I’ve had a few / I did it, I did it my way!

        • Ravi Uppal says:

          How many more sanctions ?. EU is at number 10 . The idiots not realize that prior to the collapse of the FSU the trade between the West and FSU was out of necessity . Putin was aware of this and has successfully ring fenced the Russian economy . Putin’s formulae is — You want to commit suicide , buy the bullets from me . 🙂

          • postkey says:

            “Taken together, these four volumes constitute an extraordinary commentary on a basic weakness in the Soviet system.
            The Soviets are heavily dependent on Western technology and innovation not only in their civilian industries, but also in their military programs.
            An inevitable conclusion from the evidence in this book is that we have totally ignored a policy that would enable us to neutralize Soviet global ambitions while simultaneously reducing the defense budget and the tax load on American citizens.”
            “ His book tells at least part of the story of the Soviet Union’s reliance on Western technology, including the infamous Kama River truck plant, which was built by the Pullman-Swindell company of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, a subsidiary of M. W. Kellogg Co. Prof. Pipes remarks that the bulk of the Soviet merchant marine, the largest in the world, was built in foreign shipyards. He even tells the story (related in greater detail in this book) of the Bryant Chucking Grinder Company of Springfield, Vermont, which sold the Soviet Union the ball-bearing machines that alone made possible the targeting mechanism of Soviet MIRV’ed ballistic missiles. “ ?
            http://www.crowhealingnetwork.net/pdf/Antony%20Sutton%20-%20The%20Best%20Enemy%20Money%20Can%20Buy.pdf

            • Ravi Uppal says:

              Post key , This book was written in 2000 and is past expiry date . What is today . I archive posts that are interesting . Here is one , it was posted on OFW just at the start of the war .

              ” In addition to those important points, I will add that Russia, using its abundant natural gas resources, produces over 60% of the worlds ammonium nitrate, the key fertilizer used to grow the great majority of the world’s food.

              If one included Uzbekistan, Poland, Lithuania, and Kazahkstan (all countries formerly in the sphere of influence of Russia), they produce roughly 85% of the world’s production of ammonium nitrate.

              I’ve heard people correctly claim that Russia’s “economy” is small – comparable to Spain’s (in regards to GDP). And that therefore they are of little concern.

              However, this fact only confirms how useless GDP is for truly understanding geopolitics.

              Also, Russia, despite spending less than a 1/10 on their military as the US, seems to have bypassed the West in both defensive capabilities (S-350, S-400, S-500 & S-550 missile defense systems) and offensive capabilities (hypersonic weapons).

              If one considers 1) Russia’s outsized role in global energy exports, 2) their outsized role in fertilizer exports, and 3) their superior military equipment and training, we in the West may seriously want to reconsider our approach and attitude to their national security concerns.

              What is unfolding in Ukraine is undoubtedly a tragedy, but is at least partly one of our own making.

              It is of no shame to recognize that the people that were invaded by and then repelled both Napoleon’s Grand Army and Hitler’s Wehrmacht have legitimate national security concerns.”

            • Russia is also a country that would probably benefit from a warmer climate. In particular, the Arctic Sea might become navigable by ships, most of the year.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Surely by now there should be an ice free year round access route? How many years of GW will it take?????

            • Ravi Uppal says:

              Inside the mind of Vladimir Putin . Posted in 2020 on POB .

              I have no idea who the guy is who wrote this, but I find it interesting that he very confidently says the Russians are well prepared to wait out a war of attrition in the oil markets in order to put a serious hurt on the American oil industry.

              His thinking is along the same lines as mine in that I also think the Russians are in a position to deal with low oil prices, at the cost of some serious pain to the Russian people of course, but that’s a price Putin and his guys are willing, and apparently able to pay without worrying about it.

              And I likewise continue to maintain that the Saudi’s are sitting on a powder keg, and that the House of Saud may fall from the inside, or from outside interference.

              Things have to be pretty bad for the boss man to go around arresting his kin folk and accusing them of treason. That sort of shit is more typical of countries such as Nazi Germany or Stalinist Russia or North Korea.

              Many years ago I read everything I could find on the USSR, and what’s in this copied question and answer is consistent with what was written by Western analysts about the ways the soviet propaganda machine worked.

              What is Russia’s end game in this oil war?

              Dima Vorobiev
              Dima Vorobiev, Former Soviet propaganda executive
              Answered 20h ago

              There’s no end game in the current oil war for Russia. It’s because President Putin doesn’t think in terms of a chess game.

              I’m no expert in international petroleum trade. However, my experience with how power works in Russia allows me to make some observations.

              No start, no end

              The world of secret services that shaped Putin’s worldview as a politician has no end games. President Putin’s game is the one that never rests and never ends. It’s all about painstaking accumulation of tactical wins that sometimes result in spectacular breakthroughs—and yet never puts an end to his war.
              Because even if you annihilate one enemy, another one always pops up in his place.

              “Tactical action”
              KGB alumni always think in terms of operatívnye meropriátiya (“tactical action”). That is, a branching, deeply layered set of actions that in the end must lead to a desired outcome. This outcome can be an acquisition of assets, procurement of “information units” (pieces of actionable intel), disruption of a hostile operation, liquidation of a hostile asset etc.

              In terms of OM, the main targets of the what we observe now seem to be:

              Saudi Arabia
              The American frackers
              The objective of the operation appears to be an acquisition of a set of bargaining chips that can later be traded for some concessions on the part of the Saudis and Americans.

              Painstaking preparation

              Russia has entered this game well-prepared.

              Putin’s war chest is now edging toward $600 billion, our external debt is some of the smallest among industrial nations, and since 2014 the policy of our Central Bank has been geared toward minimizing the impact of currency fluctuations on our economy. Even under the most unfavorable conditions, Russia seems to be able to weather the storm for at least for 2–3 years before we start running out of money.

              Trigger
              According to the rumor mill in Moscow, during the last weeks there seems to have happened a major fallout between Putin and the Saudi sheikhs. This was related either to the development in Syria, where Russia expected the Saudis to support us in the standoff against Erdogan, or certain things turning sour in Putin’s joint venture with Saudi sovereign investors.

              In the wake of the fallout, some well-connected insiders in Moscow convinced President Putin that time has arrived to cut the Saudis down to size. In addition, strong actions needs to be taken about the American frackers. Until now, thanks to the self-restraint shown by the OPEC+ producers, over the last decade the cheeky Americans almost doubled their domestic oil output at the expense of the established producers.

              Below, a group of Russia’s powerful allies in the US. The combination of economic pressure on the frackers’ bottom line from low prices and civil activism on the part of American environmentalists might over time break the back of the fracking business. This would return the high ground in the global petroleum markets to Russia, the OPEC members and other traditional players. For the time being, Russia has both the determination and resources to make it a game of exhaustion .

            • Russia is able to build a lot of what it uses internally. It also is much less dependent on debt than the US. Taxes on oil exports do, in fact, help support government expenditures (including war efforts). But Russia is not as dependent on these tax revenues as Middle Eastern countries. It does have the benefit of relatively low population, and population not growing much.

      • drb753 says:

        Italiani: cornuti e mazziati!

      • jigisup says:

        Japan is buying Russian oil above cap. Japan will join BRICS. Mexico will first however. Japan and Germany will have to get rid of the US military bases first. That will take a bit of time.

        https://www.wsj.com/articles/japan-breaks-with-u-s-allies-buys-russian-oil-at-prices-above-cap-1395accb

  39. Mirror on the wall says:

    Ed asked why immigration happens. This FT article, published this week, gives a fair snapshot of the dynamics in play.

    Basically, societies are economies and economies have a need for workers if the society is to function. Fertility rates are low in developed countries, and the populations are aging. The article talks about ‘skilled’ workers, but in fact the economy needs workers at all levels.

    Countries are actually in competition to attract new workers.

    https://www.ft.com/content/71d0c975-6748-4fa0-b0e9-b7d79e6d6435

    Why countries are jostling to attract migrant workers

    Labour shortages and demographic pressures fuel competition for skilled people

    When the word “migrant” hits the headlines, it is often accompanied by the word “crisis”. But another story about migration is playing out, too — one in which countries are increasingly vying with one another to draw skilled workers to their shores.

    There has always been a global competition to lure the top scientists, computer engineers and entrepreneurs, but nations are now trying to attract a much wider range of migrants with different skills, from manufacturing to nursing and construction.

    Jean-Christophe Dumont, head of international migration at the OECD, says acute labour shortages after the pandemic have been one driver, together with worsening demographic pressures in a swath of ageing countries. Almost half the global population now lives in a country or area where the lifetime fertility rate (the average number of babies per woman) sits below the “replacement rate” of 2.1 — the number that would keep the population stable.

    In Canada, the government is targeting a big expansion in immigration, noting that the worker-to-retiree ratio is expected to shift from seven-to-one 50 years ago to two-to-one by 2035. It wants 465,000 new permanent residents this year (up from a record 405,000 last year), 485,000 in 2024 and 500,000 in 2025.

    Germany, meanwhile, is trying to attract more people from outside the EU. It can no longer rely only on workers from within the bloc, given that countries such as Poland are ageing rapidly, too. Under planned reforms, an “opportunity card” will use a points system to allow skilled people to move to Germany more easily. It also wants to cut the length of time people must live in the country before they acquire citizenship, and to lift the ban on dual citizenship for people outside the EU.

    Australia has also promised reforms to make its immigration system less complex and more attractive to permanent skilled migrants. “We’re all wanting to drive our own green revolutions, our digital revolutions, and we’re competing with Germany and the US and the UK and Canada,” Andrew Rose from the Australian Permanent Mission to the UN told the Vienna Migration Conference last year.

    Dumont says countries are “increasingly recognising that . . . it’s not enough to allow people to come. You need to offer them an attractive package.” Many factors matter: can they bring their family? Can their spouse work? Can they transition to a longer-term permit? Will they feel unwelcome?

    If it is a race, one of the unexpected winners so far is the UK. Plenty of Brits who voted against Brexit — myself included — thought that outside the EU, the country would become more insular. But net migration reached a record high of about half a million people last year. The UK shot into the top 10 of the OECD’s rankings of countries that are most attractive to highly skilled workers. Most strikingly, the public seems fine with it. In 2022, for the first time in polling history, more people favoured maintaining, or even increasing, levels of migration than favoured cuts….

    • Mirror on the wall says:

      Polls in UK have become more favourable to immigration over the past decade.

      The Tories and their press still try to weaponize the issue to get votes, even though the Tories are just pretending to oppose immigration, but the public generally is less concerned about it.

      This was published this week:

      https://www.counterfire.org/article/tories-double-down-on-cruelty-to-refugees/

      One of the surveys, by the Policy Institute at King’s College London, indicates that the UK is placed near the top of an international league table rating countries’ attitudes to immigration. Out of seventeen developed economies, Britain is ranked in the top position in terms of willingness to accept new arrivals. Only 31% of Britons believe the government should place strict limits on the number of foreigners who should be permitted into the country. That makes the UK even more welcoming than both Germany and Canada, with 35% and 39% respectively. Similarly, almost 70% of British people believe the government should permit anyone to come into the country if there are enough jobs for them.

      The survey also revealed these progressive views on immigration are part of an attitudinal change that has taken place over recent decades.

      In 2009, 65% of Britons believed employers should give priority in recruitment to UK-born citizens. That figure has now fallen to 29%. In 2009, Britain was ranked at the top of eleven countries holding this view.

      British people are less likely (21%) to think immigration causes unemployment than those in Germany (27%) or the US (31%).

      Only Canada (73%) believes more than the UK (70%) that immigration enhances cultural diversity.

      People in the UK are less likely to believe immigration causes crime (22%) or terrorism (28%) than any other developed state.

      British people (63%) are only below South Korea (67%) in believing immigrants fill important gaps in the job market.

      UK is overall ranked in fourth place out of seventeen for believing immigration is a positive force in society.

      More bad news for Braverman

      There is more bad news for the Tories on the issue from YouGov polling published recently: 72% of people think the government is making a mess of migration policy, with 44% believing asylum seekers are being treated in an inhumane way. This data also supports the Policy Institute’s view that more progressive views are becoming the norm. In the last seven years, the number of people believing immigration is too high has fallen from 70% to less than 60%. Most people (76%) would be happy to see the same or even increased levels of skilled migrants, and over 70% feel the same or greater level of refugees fleeing persecution should be permitted to come to the UK. This sort of data suggests there are strong grounds for optimism regarding British attitudes to migration-but don’t expect to read about that in the Mail or Express.

      • Very Far Frank says:

        ‘Progressivism’ of all types is simply an analogue for higher energy use. Therefore, when energy availability declines, progressivism also declines.

    • Yes, economies do have to have workers. They especially have to workers if the birth rate is too low, so that most workers are getting very old. To make matters worse, retired workers have been promised pensions.

      It is only with lots of fossil fuels and a rapidly growing economy that this combination can work. Adding young workers sort of helps the situation, but it doesn’t add the energy needed to make the system work.

      • Dennis L. says:

        See earlier post, the answer is metaphorically in the stars and energy solutions are solar, but not on earth, in space.

        The problem with workers is the intelligence level necessary in today’s world. Pareto again, 80/20.

        Dennis L.

    • Dennis L. says:

      Agreed regarding immigrants, US has a SS problem. But, the quality of the worker is now very important and AI is a huge game changer.

      We don’t know what economics is with intelligent machines. Is increasing entropy a feature of the universe and not a problem? AI is coming along smartly, I recall Compuserve, one of the earliest online services, it was subscription, dial up modem, 300 baud to start. Now, we have chat GPT and access to server farms; all that in thirty years.

      AI makes energy/resource problems history; fusion is real today, a bit far away but real. A poster noted the Sudbury NI meteor, all the minerals one can want or need as well as all the petroleum resources if one wants that sort of stuff are accessible.

      Solving pollution and energy is trivial, run space transportation on nuclear, when it wears out don’t decommission, shoot it into the sun, recycle.

      Politicians are attempting to solve an energy problem with immigrants, Elon, an immigrant is going for gold, for humanity, to the stars and my guess his robots, optimus, will do the work. Space is too damn tough for humans without our spaceship, earth.

      Dennis L.

  40. Student says:

    (Financial Times)

    Change of source for service and equipment suppliers for (western) Ukraine:

    ”Naftogaz held talks with big US oil groups about Ukraine energy projects

    State gas producer says it met with ExxonMobil, Halliburton and Chevron in bid to increase output in war-torn country.

    Ukraine’s state energy company has held talks with ExxonMobil, Halliburton and Chevron about projects in the war-torn country as Kyiv looks to lure back foreign investment into its energy sector.”

    https://www.ft.com/content/c1f06f80-7165-4f07-9fbb-04e225d7d7d9

    https://archive.is/p7A7f#selection-1445.0-1451.117

    • Dennis L. says:

      Student,

      Won’t a certain neighbor to the east have something to say about that?

      Somehow the word, “nyet” comes to mind.

      Dennis L.

      • Student says:

        In my view, the destiny of that area is a sort of North Korea – South Korea division.
        Of course, that if we are lucky that things don’t go for the worst.

        • Ravi Uppal says:

          Student , not a NK- SK solution . The end will be either no Ukraine or a rump Ukraine controlled by Moscow . Putin is a great student of history unlike the dumpkoffs of the West .

  41. Fast Eddy says:

    Nicely done PR Team – it’s Covid causing the epidemic of cancer hahaha
    https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/74740

  42. postkey says:

    Sars covid2 and the vaccine have been shown to cause prion diseases: 0:27 in.

    https://ceflix.org/videos/watch/1868362/2nd-highlight-the-dr-richard-fleming-interviews-covid-19-is-a-bioweapon

    • reante says:

      Once again it comes back to systemic fibrotic disease which I theorize is induced by the vaxxes inducing tumor signaling wherever the LNPs deploy their cargo. Excerpt then link:

      “The chief and largely terminal element of normal blood clotting is considered to involve the polymerisation of the mainly α-helical fibrinogen to fibrin, with a binding mechanism involving ‘knobs and holes’ but with otherwise little change in protein secondary structure. We recognise, however, that extremely unusual mutations or mechanical stressing can cause fibrinogen to adopt a conformation containing extensive β-sheets. Similarly, prions can change morphology from a largely α-helical to largely β-sheet conformation, and the latter catalyses both the transition and the self-organising polymerisation of the β-sheet structures. Many other proteins can also do this, where it is known as amyloidogenesis. When fibrin is formed in samples from patients harbouring different diseases it can have widely varying diameters and morphologies. We here develop the idea, and summarise the evidence, that in many cases the anomalous fibrin fibre formation seen in such diseases actually amounts to amyloidogenesis. In particular, fibrin can interact with the amyloid-β (Aβ) protein that is misfolded in Alzheimer’s disease. Seeing these unusual fibrin morphologies as true amyloids explains a great deal about fibrin(ogen) biology that was previously opaque, and provides novel strategies for treating such coagulopathies. The literature on blood clotting can usefully both inform and be informed by that on prions and on the many other widely recognised (β-)amyloid proteins.”

  43. I AM THE MOB says:

    “The Stock Exchange is something very different. There is no economy and no production of goods and services. There are only fantasies in which people from one hour to the next decide that this or that company is worth so many billions, more or less. It doesn’t have a thing to do with reality or with the real economy.”

    ― Stieg Larsson, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo

    • Dennis L. says:

      IATM,

      Most likely true before AI, AI is information, money is basically information.

      Time of change.

      Dennis L.

  44. MG says:

    I guess that the war in the Ukraine will gradually die out: there will not be soldiers, especially on the Russian side.

    • Ravi Uppal says:

      MG , you mean the Ukrainian side . 41 million at start of war , now 25 million . Kill ratio 1:7 to 1:10 in favor of the Russians as per NATO leaks .
      P.S ; 41 million was not counting Crimea and Sevastopol .

  45. ivanislav says:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chKYMM7dFbU

    Zeihan talking about population crash and food scarcity at 4+ minute mark in the Middle East.

    • Minority of One says:

      Good video, short, clear and covers a lot of ground re the massive coming famines in the Middle East / NE Africa. But as the oil and gas and coal run out, we are ultimately all in the same boat (pun intended).

    • Dennis L. says:

      ivan,

      Read his book, sometimes pick up his podcast/advertisements. Ziehan sells Ziehan; he predicted Russian defeat in Ukraine. Militarily that does not seem to be in the cards.

      Dennis L.

      • Ravi Uppal says:

        Dennis . agree 100% . Slick salesman .

      • ivanislav says:

        Dennis, I know, Zeihan carries water for the MIC, but you can still get ideas that are worth investigating from him.

        An example of his BS:
        * claimed the M777 howitzers would allow Ukraine to pursue a leadership decapitation strategy against the Russians

        We all know that didn’t happen / wasn’t successful.

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