The bumpy road ahead for the world economy

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In the post-World War II era, the US has been known for its hegemony–in other words, its leadership role in the world economy. According to one definition, hegemony is the political, economic, and military predominance of one state over other states. I believe that the US is not far from losing its hegemony. The conflict over future hegemony could lead to a major war.

Hegemony is surprisingly closely tied to leadership in energy consumption. A country with a high share of the world’s energy consumption doesn’t have to depend on imported goods and services from around the world. It can manufacture weapons of war, if it chooses, in as large quantities as it chooses, without waiting for outside suppliers.

One part of today’s problem is the fact that the world’s fossil fuel supply, particularly oil, is becoming depleted. Extraction is not rising sufficiently to keep up with population growth. In fact, total fossil fuel extraction may begin to fall in the near future. In some sense, the fossil fuel supply is no longer adequate to go around. To relieve the stress of inadequate supply, some inefficient users of energy need to have their fossil fuel consumption greatly reduced.

My analysis suggests that the US and some of its “Affiliates” tend to be inefficient users of fossil fuels. These countries are at great risk of having their consumption cut back. The result could be war, even nuclear war, as the US loses its hegemony. After such a war, the US could mostly be cut off from trade with Asian nations. In this post, I will elaborate further on these ideas.

[1] Hegemony is closely related to energy consumption because energy is what allows an economy to manufacture goods of all kinds, including armaments needed for war. The energy consumption of the US as a percentage of the world’s has been falling since 1970.

Data on energy consumption by part of the world is readily available only back to 1965, rather than 1945. Based on this data, US energy consumption as a percentage of the world’s total energy consumption has been falling since 1965.

Figure 1. US Energy consumption as a percentage of world energy consumption, based on data from BP’s 2022 Statistical Review of World Energy.

Figure 1 shows that the US’s share of world energy consumption amounted to 33.3% of world’s energy supply in 1965, but only 15.6% in 2021. In other words, in 2021, the US’s share of world energy consumption in 2021 was less than half of its 1965 level.

There are some economies that have much in common with the US. The countries in this category are advanced economies that have democratic governments. I expect these countries would tend to follow the US’s lead, regardless of whether its actions really make sense. The selected economies are the EU, Japan, Canada, the UK, and Australia. For convenience, I call these countries Affiliates.

[2] Affiliates consumed over 35% of the world’s energy supply in the 1965 -1973 period, but this has fallen in recent years.

Figure 2. Energy consumption for selected advanced economies (referred to in this post as Affiliates) as a percentage of world energy consumption, based on data from BP’s 2022 Statistical Review of World Energy. The EU is based on 2021 membership.

Figure 2 shows that Affiliates consumed 35.5% of the world’s energy supply in 1965. By 2021, their consumption fell to 17.6% of the world’s supply. This, too, is less than half of the 1965 percentage.

[3] The energy consumption of US plus Affiliates as compared to the energy consumption of Rest of the World has shifted remarkably since 1965. The consumption of the Rest of the World has been soaring, while that of US plus Affiliates has shrunk.

In Figure 3, I add together the amounts in Figures 1 and 2 and compare them to the indicated energy consumption of what is left, which I call, “Rest of the World.” It is clear that there has been a huge shift in which grouping consumes the majority of the world’s energy supply.

Figure 3. Comparison of total energy consumption as a percentage of world energy consumption for US + Affiliates and Rest of the World. Amounts based on data from BP’s 2022 Statistical Review of World Energy.

We all know that if a political party has the support of almost 70% of voters, it is likely to be dominant. There is a similar issue with energy consumption. Energy consumption is used in every aspect of the economy. It is important for manufacturing goods and transporting them to their destinations. It is also important for creating jobs that pay well.

If world energy supply is growing, it encourages growth of the world economy. Growing energy supply indirectly allows debt to be paid back with interest. In general, the faster the world’s energy supply is growing, the higher the interest rate that can be supported.

Without growth in energy supply, an individual economy is forced to become a service economy. It is forced to import almost all of the manufactured goods that it needs, even armaments needed for war. Such an economy is forced to place an emphasis on growing debt and growing complexity. Unfortunately, both of these things are subject to diminishing returns. As growth in energy supply turns to shrinkage in energy supply, we should expect debt bubbles to pop.

A country is likely to stop making advances in the sciences as it shifts to a service economy. This linked chart by Visual Capitalist analyzes patents in 2021 by the country of the individuals listed on the patent applications. On this basis, China’s patent count was more than double that of the US. China is also the major producer of many clean energy technologies because it has both the resources and the technology.

As a service economy, the US has tended to specialize in healthcare, with spending in this sector accounting for 18.3% of GDP. Yet the US’s healthcare results are dismal. US life expectancies have fallen behind those of other advanced countries. The recent covid vaccines, which were strongly advocated by US health authorities, worked far less well than had been hoped. In February 2022, the New York Times published an article, US Has Far Higher Covid Death Rate Than Other Wealthy Countries.

[4] US data shows that its energy consumption was rising rapidly in the 1949 to 1973 period. Such rapid growth in energy consumption would make other countries envious. It would tend to expand America’s hegemony.

Figure 4. US energy consumption for the period 1949 to 2022 based on EIA data with fitted exponential growth indications for periods chosen by author.

Figure 4 shows how quickly US energy consumption was growing, starting in 1949, using EIA data. Energy consumption growth averaged 3.5% per year in the 1949 to 1973 period. This rapid growth is what we would expect of a country that was an energy leader for the rest of the world. Standards of living could rise. Parents could often afford to raise several children.

An article in the Oxford University Press says that the US’s proliferation of major military bases overseas was developed in the 1950s and 1960s to contain communism and to provide global defense of US interests. Such a huge build-out of bases during this period would not have been possible without the rapid ramp-up in US energy consumption.

Between 1960 and 1969, the number of miles of high-voltage long distance electricity transmission lines tripled. This was evidence of the rapid growth in electricity production that the US was achieving; it was a pattern that other countries would want to emulate. It added to the hegemony of the US.

Statista shows that between 1951 and 1973, the number of US automobile sales per year more than doubled, from 5.16 million to 11.42 million. With this increase came a need for more paved roads and more pipelines to carry oil products. With its growing energy consumption, the US was able to accomplish all this growth. Growing energy consumption also allowed the US to manufacture nearly all the vehicles sold in the US in this period.

[5] US hegemony faced a major challenge in 1970 when US oil production hit a peak and started to fall.

Figure 5. Monthly US oil production through February 2023. Chart by EIA, with notes by Gail Tverberg.

US crude oil production rose rapidly until 1970, when it suddenly started falling. Work was quickly begun on oil extraction from the North Slope of Alaska. This oil offset most of the decline in oil production from the lower 48 states through the mid-1980s.

US hegemony depends upon the quantity of energy products US businesses and citizens consume. When oil prices become unaffordable, citizens and businesses buy less. Figure 6 shows that oil prices had been amazingly low prior to 1973, averaging only $16.31 per barrel, even after adjusting for inflation to 2021 price levels.

Figure 6. Average annual Brent spot oil prices, together with average prices for the fitted growth periods shown on Figure 4. Based data from BP’s 2022 Statistical Review of World Energy.

Comparing Figure 6 to Figure 4, we see that once oil jumped up to an average of $73.14 per barrel in the 1973 to 1983 period, US energy consumption flattened out. At this high price, efficiency became more important. Smaller imported cars, often from Japan, became popular. The US and several other parts of the world started building nuclear power plants to replace electricity created by burning oil. Within a few years, oil production was ramped up in other parts of the world, such as the North Sea and Mexico, relieving the tightness in oil supply.

Once oil prices began to rise again in the 2005 to 2008 period, US oil from shale became available in response to higher prices. The catch was that at these higher prices, oil tended to be unaffordable by the American public. Oil was still affordable in most of the Rest of the World, however.

These “Rest of the World” countries tended to use oil much more sparingly in their energy mix. They often had other advantages as well: warmer climate, lower wage levels, recently built factories, and an energy mix that emphasized coal (which tended to be inexpensive). These advantages helped bring down costs of both manufacturing and resource extraction for the Rest of the World. The shift in energy consumption shown on Figure 3 could occur.

This shift in manufacturing and resource extraction away from the US and Affiliates creates problems, however. If the US and Affiliates are increasingly at odds with countries outside this group, it becomes much harder for the US to exert hegemony over these countries. The problem is that the US depends upon the countries it is at odds with for necessities. Even in making munitions for the Ukrainian conflict, the US needs to depend on China and other Asian countries for parts of its supply lines.

[6] The world economy is now headed for a bottleneck. The world economy is similar to a Ponzi Scheme, with growth in the output of goods and services necessary to fund financial promises of many kinds. There are limits to the amounts of fossil fuels available at affordable prices, and the world is hitting those limits now.

Because the world economy follows the laws of physics, the growth in the output of goods and services depends upon the continued growth in the production of energy products.

Figure 7. World Energy Consumption by Source, based on Vaclav Smil estimates from Energy Transitions: History, Requirements and Prospects and together with data from BP’s Statistical Review of World Energy for 1965 and subsequent. Wind and solar are included in “Biofuels.”

We have known for a very long time that fossil fuel output is limited. Back in 1957, Rear Admiral Hyman Rickover of the US Navy gave a speech warning that world-wide fossil fuel energy supplies were expected to become unaffordable between 2000 and 2050. High oil prices seem to have been a major factor underlying the Great Recession of 2008-2009. This especially affected the US, with its large amount of subprime housing debt. The problems experienced since late 2021 with spiking prices of oil and high prices of imported coal and natural gas are also evidence of the limits the world is reaching.

Figure 8 shows my view of where future world energy supply is headed. While this chart was originally prepared in 2020, the forecast still seems to be reasonable, especially if regulators get their way in mandating the reduction of (unaffordable) fossil fuel use.

Figure 8. Amounts for 1820 to 2020 similar to those from Figure 7, above. Amounts after 2020 assume an average reduction of 6.6% per year to 2050.

If energy consumption falls this rapidly, the world economy will have to adapt in many ways. Economies that cannot tolerate high oil and energy prices are likely to be squeezed out. Based on what already has been happening in Figures 1, 2, and 3, the United States and Europe are especially likely to be adversely affected. The countries that are likely to fare better are ones that don’t require as much energy per capita. These countries are likely to be in warm climates and have relatively poor populations, such as those in Southeast Asia.

As energy supplies fall, business failures and debt defaults can be expected to soar. Governments will be tempted to backstop every financial promise, including failed banks and pension plans. If they do this, other countries will be unwilling to trade using their debased currency. With too much money and few imports, the result is likely to be hyperinflation. If the governments simply allow bankruptcies to take place, the result is likely to be deflation as banks and businesses fail.

[7] The US has been having increasing difficulty in its hegemony role. Some countries have come to believe that the US is now acting unfairly.

Back when the US first attained hegemony, oil and other energy supplies were inexpensive and their supply was growing rapidly. The US was experiencing great economic growth, and other countries wanted the same sort of success. The US plus Affiliates were the ones using the majority of energy products, so the interests of almost all energy users were aligned.

Things have “gone downhill” since 1970 when the US oil supply first started to shrink (Figure 5). Suddenly, the US needed help from the financial system to work around the need to import more oil. One change (in August 1971) was making the dollar a fiat currency, rather than tied to a gold standard. This enabled greater use of debt in operating the economy.

Without the gold standard, the US dollar was able to become the world’s reserve currency. Instead of gold reserves, other countries began buying US Treasuries, which they considered to be a safe store of their money. The US dollar could also play a greater role in financing international transactions. A 2021 analysis by the Federal Reserve shows the dominance of the US dollar in many areas of trade.

This dominant role for the US dollar is now being questioned after the US froze the central bank assets of Russia, as part of the sanctions imposed in response to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. Other countries are beginning to wonder if holding Treasuries is really a good idea, if the US can impose sanctions which make them unavailable. Countries are also figuring out that it is quite possible to arrange sales of commodities and other goods in currencies other than the US dollar.

Also, the US’s ability to win wars is not very clear. The US’s first big loss was the Vietnam War. After 20 years of fighting, that war ended in 1975, with communist forces seizing control of South Vietnam. The Afghanistan War did not go well either. After 20 years, the US abruptly pulled out. While the US claims the mission was accomplished, it is hard to see that the high cost was justified.

The Russia-Ukraine conflict does not appear to be going well for Ukraine and the allies supporting Ukraine. The US and NATO are having difficulty supplying as many armaments as quickly as President Zelensky would like. Ukraine seems to be using up its conventional weapons very rapidly. Neither the US nor other NATO countries can manufacture weapons very quickly, in part because supply lines from around the world are required. How helpful is the US’s hegemony, if the US can’t even easily win a “proxy war” in Ukraine?

There are sanctions, other than freezing assets, that are of concern to other countries. A recent list from a Chinese source lists the following types of hegemony that it considers to be problematic.

  • Political hegemony – Throwing the US’s weight around
  • Military hegemony – Wanton use of force
  • Economic hegemony – Looting and exploitation
  • Technological hegemony – Monopoly and suppression
  • Cultural hegemony – Spreading false narratives

Quite a few countries in my Rest of the World grouping are clearly getting fed up with America’s hegemony. Increasingly, Middle Eastern countries that were previously at odds with each other are setting aside their differences. They are also becoming much more closely aligned with China. Countries in this group, as well as the BRICS group of countries, are already taking steps toward trading in currencies other than the US dollar.

[8] The path ahead looks very bumpy. The US is likely to be kicked out of its role as global hegemon. Rival countries may choose to attack the US with nuclear weapons, or the US may lash out with nuclear weapons as it sees its hegemony fail.

As I analyze the world economy’s future trajectory, I see the following situations falling into place:

(a) The world economy is being stressed by inadequate energy supplies. When prices rise, it tends to cause inflation. Some countries are experiencing a second kind of stress, as well. Their central banks have raised interest rates. This is a dangerous thing to do because it tends to cause falling asset prices in addition to slowing the economy.

I expect that countries that have recently raised interest rates will have many bank failures. Partly, this will come from the falling value of long-term bonds. In time, it will also come from failing real estate mortgages and other loans, since asset prices will tend to fall with higher interest rates. Governments will be tempted conduct massive bailouts. The countries that have recently raised interest rates include the US, the UK, Eurozone countries, Switzerland, Canada, Australia, and Brazil.

Countries that did not raise interest rates, which seem to include China, India, and Iran, will find their economies less affected by bank failures. Russia temporarily raised interest rates, and then lowered them again, so Russia would also seem to be less affected by bank failures.

Countries that raised rates will be tempted to do bailouts of banks and of “too big to fail businesses.” These bailouts will greatly increase the monetary supply, making countries that didn’t raise interest rates unwilling to trade with them. This dynamic will tend to increase the trend toward two separate trading areas–one including much of Eurasia and one including the US, Canada, Europe and perhaps South America.

(b) If we think about it, cutting back greatly on trans-Atlantic and trans-Pacific shipping would save a great deal of oil if there is not enough oil to go around. This will be another impetus for “Rest of the World” countries, especially those in the Asia-Pacific area, to cut back on shipping across the major oceans.

(c) With failing banks and a cutback in trade between regions, the US dollar will cease to be used as a reserve currency for a large part of the world. The US dollar might still be the reserve currency for some trades, particularly with other countries in the Americas.

(d) I expect that a block of countries will eventually coalesce, centered in Asia, that will mostly trade among themselves. China will probably be the leader of this block.

(e) The US and Europe will mostly be pushed off to the side, to trade among themselves and some geographically close neighbors. These areas may need to set up new financial systems using much less debt. These countries will not be able to produce advanced goods, such as computers, by themselves. They will not be able to build new solar electricity generation or new wind turbines because too much of the supply chain will be out of reach. While these countries have been looking at digital currencies, it is not clear that there will be a stable enough electricity supply to make such currencies possible.

(f) There will probably be war at the time of the division into the two (or perhaps more) trading areas. Nuclear weapons may be involved since there are many countries with nuclear weapons. The supply of conventional weapons available for warfare is depleted, with the ongoing war in Ukraine. According to a study done at Harvard, involving 16 cases in which a major rising power challenged an existing major power over the past 500 years, 12 cases ended in war. This analysis would suggest a 75% likelihood of war.

(g) I don’t know what the timing of all these things will be. Bank failures are just beginning. Let’s keep our fingers crossed that the world economy holds together a while longer.

About Gail Tverberg

My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
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4,101 Responses to The bumpy road ahead for the world economy

  1. Fast Eddy says:

    F789 Yeah!

    Here’s a nice jolt of adrenaline hahaha

    US Bank-Run Escalates: Deposit Outflows Top $360 Billion In Last 3 Weeks

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/deposit-outflows-continue-foreign-banks-bleeding-most

    And this is how the consumer is dealing with inflation – Charge It!

    Consumer Credit Shocker: Credit Card Debt Explodes At 2nd Fastest Pace On Record Just As Rates Hit All-Time High

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/consumer-credit-shocker-credit-card-debt-explodes-2nd-fastest-pace-record-just-rates-hit

    Are you tit-illated?

    • jigisup says:

      I took a little cash out of savings ($400) this week and the bank manager (who I know) acted like I peed into one of the potted plants.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        NZ has not deposit insurance. I don’t lose sleep .. if it comes down to that we’re one deep breath away from death if bank accounts are wiped

      • reante says:

        Tulsi’s running at 100:1 odds right now. Forget the money market fund, play your cards right and that’s $40K you got in your pocket right there.

        • jigisup says:

          Tulsi will never win. She will never be nominated. Your obsession with her is as usual a distraction.

          She does stand for some things. Primarily she has brought attention to the endless wars how they have bankrupted the USA and how the whole world hates us now. Oh I forgot being against war is “national socialism”. “not wanting people killed and cultures destroyed is “national socialism” Right Reante?

          • reante says:

            Dang and that was a pro-tip, too, jig. Your loss.

            She doesn’t need to be nominated because she will be running as an independent. And yes, being against imperial warfare is nationalism, and she is also anti-Fed, which makes her a non/anti-marxist socialist, because socialism is just a highly regulated form of capitalism (a market economy) that seeks, more or less, to minimize private wealth inequality. Nationalism plus socialism equals NS is the math.

            Distraction? You think DA Theory is a distraction? Seeing as how I don’t know the first thing about serious analysis the DA is all I have man – i just had to go off the rez you know what I’m saying? That’s harsh, bro. 🙂

            • Replenish says:

              This conversation is bringing a flood of warm memories.. like when we put a new shed roof on at the cabin porch..trying to find common reference points with my elderly Dad on his step ladder with old painful carpenters knees and 4F flat feet.. or trying to replace the mower deck belt on the MTD rider with Dad, a wicked pulley and his snarled fingers.. 3 different belts from as many parts stores recommended by the computer for a specific yard machine.

              Feathering mechanism? Degrowth Agenda? National socialism? Agree to disagree? Endeavor to persevere!

            • reante says:

              You know how envious it makes me when you talk about your working relationship with your dad. Even when it sucks I’m envious. It’s just a beautiful thing. Please continue.

    • jigisup says:

      I was re reading Gails previous article during the break. I noticed she listed all of the debts (gov,personal,business) together as a percentage of GDP and noted when one decreased the others had to pick up the slack. While there is certainly pragmatic reasons for separating the different owners of the debt when looked at in its entirety its certainly concerning since over 100% of gdp has historically been considered insolvent. One wonders if the idea of “ownership” of dept free property will be continued to be absolute in liu of property right being malleable in bank bail ins.

      When all of the 400% of GDP debt gets looking for collateral that doesnt exist I have a feeling ownership will be like the pirates of the Carabian “more of a guideline than a rule”. Regardless of who owns the debt the future goods and services dont exist. On the other hand the debt is dollar denominated. If the dollar goes to zero the debt is not real important. As others have noted things are getting tight not a lot of dollars out there to buy non essential purchases right now. If theres no dollars are around to pay collateral gets called in. Pretty sure blackrock will keep their ownership rights. The recent Luongo argument that white hat Jerome prevented Blackrock from getting bail in rights was interesting if fanciful.

      • Jan says:

        To enforce property rights a government is needed. If the dollar goes to zero there will not be any. If you employ a private army in times without government, you don’t need property rights to take whatever you want. To pay an army with dollars worth zero is impossible.

        • jigisup says:

          “To pay an army with dollars worth zero is impossible.”

          True but that doesnt mean a soldier will leave a cohesive team. It just mean the “pay” takes form other than dollars. Lots of informal military communities forming. No they are not swearing oaths to the great gumma bird but they are ex military and the people moving to the area are ex military. They may have some varying beliefs but cohesiveness comes first. Look these guys have lived in anarchy. They know that the only way you survive in anarchy is unit cohesiveness. Thats their primary belief. In this they have a great advantage.

          I dont care what you think but you damn sure better have my back and you can be damn sure I have yours. Thats unknown outside of military. Now add particular skill sets. Can you blame them? Is it perfect? Not at all. But its something. Something is better than nothing. They keep their mouths shut. They are not pro goverment or anti goverment. They are pro cohesiveness. They have their ace in the hole. Everything else is so much blah blah blah. Thats part of the club. Whatever but do your f***** job. Thats the club benefits outside of pay. Every day it holds together so much the better because the club is not so nice just better than the alternative. Your a club member or a serf. There is no inbetween. Non club members can not be trusted to be cohesive.

  2. Ted Kaczynski says:

    Airline pilot deaths revisited
    …they are still dying younger

    DR. KEVIN STILLWAGON
    MAY 5, 2023
    https://drkevinstillwagon.substack.com/p/airline-pilot-deaths-revisited?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
    Claims continue to circulate on the internet that airline pilot deaths have increased exponentially since the covid shot was mandated in early 2021. My investigation of the airline pilot deaths that appeared in the Air Line Pilot magazine published by the Airline Pilot’s Association (ALPA) since January of 2019 shows a 2.3% increase in pilot deaths in 2021 over 2020. There was a slight insignificant increase, certainly not exponential. What is significant was the 40% rise in the incidence of pilots dying prior to the normal retirement age of 65. This increase happened in the year 2021. Until proven otherwise, the mandated covid shot is the cause.

    …….None of the shots were safe for pilots. A known adverse event of special interest (AESI) is myocarditis. In fact, the Summary Basis for Regulatory Action (SBRA) for COMIRNATY requires Pfizer to track and document myocarditis with various reports at specific times due until the year 2027. An SBRA is a document that provides a comprehensive summary of the scientific and clinical data submitted to a regulatory authority (such as the FDA) for a new drug, biologic, or medical device. It serves as a basis for regulatory action, including approval or denial of the product. Here is a link to the document where you can word search “myocarditis”: https://www.fda.gov/media/151733/download

    ……I am working with usfreedomflyers.org to encourage the FAA to prohibit any further mRNA injections and to take steps to screen pilots for possible subclinical myocarditis.

    Thanks for reading Dr.’s Newsletter! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.

    Ahh, that’s too bad…really it is….

  3. Lastcall says:

    Some local data points;

    My life insurance premiums have been going up a little each year. But last year they went up over 20% and this year the increase was 25%.

    Local boat dealer getting a lot of boats coming back to yard; sold at over 400k, repurchased at 250k (the typically borrowed amount), so all the equity they had put into gone.

    Local over priced sections back on the market at a discount; not selling.

    Private car sales on side of road are much newer than usual.

    Increasing numbers of empty shops in a town where there has traditionally been high demand for (overpriced) retail space.

    Log prices dropping to levels where logging crews are now stood down.

    Prices of essentials at local supermarkets jumping week by week.

    But hey, Jacinda’s got a new job so she doesn’t have to face the consequences of her ‘leadershit’.

  4. Lastcall says:

    Meanwhile the poisoning will continue until morale improves;

    ‘In July 2022, Director General of Health Dr Ashley Bloomfield directed 14 councils, under the Health Act to 14, to add fluoride to some or all of their water supplies. Hastings District Council is included in the 14.

    This follows the Health (Fluoridation of Drinking Water) Amendment Act 2021 that shifted decision-making on fluoridation from councils to the Director-General of Health.’

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/news/something-unusual-in-the-water-is-causing-mass-cylinder-failures-in-hastings-rheem-says/WIZYD2S5XFFC7KXQJEQ2CFEGWQ/

    Same thing happened in the town near where I live when the council ‘upgraded’ their water supply with hydroflourosilisic acid; mass failure of hot-water cylinders ensued.

    It took a court order to release this report;
    https://fluoridefree.org.nz/damming-us-govt-report-released-on-fluoride-and-iq-loss-like-putting-lead-back-in-petrol/

    ‘The US National Toxicology Program (an Interagency run by the US Government’s Health and Human Services) released a draft report last Wednesday (15th March) linking prenatal and childhood fluoride exposure to reduced IQ in children, after public health officials tried for almost a year to block its publication. The report has been six years in the making and has been peer-reviewed multiple times.

    A court order stemming from a lawsuit filed by Food and Water Watch and Fluoride Action Network against the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) forced the report’s release.

    The report said that total exposure to fluoride can be reached in communities with water fluoridated at 0.7ppm results in measurable IQ loss.(see pages 310, 346 and 352) . NZ research on lead shows that the level of IQ loss results in measurable negative life outcomes in terms of employment, income, and social mobility.’

    • Fast Eddy says:

      norm drinks water infused with fluoride + he injects Rat Juice every few months…

      Discuss

    • JMS says:

      The chemical industry has been poisoning us for over a hundred years.
      If it went through a lab, you can assume it’s poison.
      So don’t take, inject, eat or drink it. Simple.
      Much more difficult is to avoid what falls invisibly from the sky, like radiation or chemicals.

      • Retired Libarian says:

        JMS, my Dad was a lifetime chemical farmer. He was absolutely insane when he died. The diagnosis was the usual dementia but I am convinced it was a lifetime of poisen. I saw this with several relatives.
        Thanks for your comment.

        • My father was a family physician when I grew up. More than once, he remarked that he thought the reason someone had died was related to chemical products that person was spreading. This was one of my influences that suggested I stay away from unknown chemicals.

        • JMS says:

          Similarly, I have every reason to believe that my father’s tumors at 75 were due to his having spent the previous 20 years, since his early retirement, spraying happily and carelessly on his small farm.

    • jigisup says:

      Hydrafluoric acid is one of the scariest things in HAZMAT. Nitric sulpheric or hydrochloric acid if it gets on the skin theres a bit of smoke and some flesh is becomes necrotic tissue. The chemical burn that results is harder to heal than thermal burns. Pretty much the same for strong bases but base burns heal even more slowly than acid burns. When these things encounter skin with nerve endings there is pain. Pain lets you know exposure has occurred. The necrotic tissue has to be scrubbed off for healing. They apply enzymes to break down its inherently strong composition and it gets scrubbed off with steel wool in the burn ward pools. The necrotic tissue is quite tenacious kind of like scar tissue.

      Hydrafluoric acid does not destroy skin and cause immediate pain like acids and bases. It migrates through tissue and attacks bones. Kind of hard to scrub necrotic bones off with steel wool. Hydrafluoric acid is a useful substance in some semi conductor manufacturing processes.

  5. I AM THE MOB says:

    They never top this. (tomw)

    longest shot!

  6. houtskool says:

    Maybe the US could abandon the gold standard so they can afford a war. I’d say, swipe El Paso and start the Wanker Group.

  7. Art Lepic says:

    Thanks Gail, you “nail” things so well all the time.
    I personally am visiting as many relatives and friends as possible this season because I feel major trouble is near. It makes it very special. I’ve been looking into our energy predicament for a long time (I have collaborated with Jean Laherrère for a long time). All the greatest things (energy intensive) in Europe are soon to become a thing of the past, unfortunately.
    Thanks for your honest work.

  8. I AM THE MOB says:

    WHO says Covid-19 is no longer a global health emergency

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/05/health/who-ends-covid-health-emergency/index.html

  9. jigisup says:

    Hour and a half of injection injury.
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/hgR0HOrk5qzf/
    Vaccine injured nurse
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/D1IDz76WqYJV/

  10. Mirror on the wall says:

    The UKR ‘counter-offensive’ is yet to materialize.

    Meanwhile, DPA gives an interesting overview of the combat situation in UKR; it is all about positional warfare. Zelensky has committed UKR to holding all land regardless of the loss of manpower, and Russia has adopted attritional positional warfare to take advantage of that. Zelensky is completely unqualified as a military strategist, and he basically has not got a clue what he is doing.

    Russia has the advantage in positional warfare as it has superior air and artillery cover, so it is able to shape and hold frontlines that frame ‘kill zones’, territory that UKR is committed to holding and into which it constantly moves troops that Russia is able to eliminate, attrition UKR forces, so the frontline is pretty stable for long periods. Frontlines would function as two-way ‘kill zones’ were it not for superior Russian air and artillery cover.

    Remember, one of the main Russian war objectives is to demilitarise UKR, and this attritional strategy achieves that objective in terms of the elimination of manpower and equipment. And as Gail points out, USA/ NATO does not really have the energetic/ industrial base to produce volumes of armaments for attritional warfare. UKR is a complete debacle:

    Russian Kill Box Working as Intended – Ukrainian forces handicapping themselves with their strategy

    • drb753 says:

      Obviously Zelensky is very qualified for what he wants to do, and he is doing it successfully.

      • Zemi says:

        Qualified enough. The OP is obviously a Putin groupie and comes across a bit hysterical with hyperbole like “completely unqualified” and “he basically has not got a clue what he is doing”. Not a sober analysis.

        The best politicians are not military strategists because they’re not. They learn on the job and listen to their generals. During Falkland crisis of the 1980s, Mrs Thatcher of Britain just trusted the military and let them do their job. Mostly but not always they got it right.

        Look at Stalin, start of WW2 he was making dreadful mistakes, then he learned to trust his generals and things improved. The Germo-Austrian guy stuck his oar in the whole time, he made a dreadful mess and lost.

        • ivanislav says:

          Qualified enough for what? Mr. Z got hundreds of thousands of his citizens killed and 10 million left the country. This was all avoidable if he just declared neutrality. It was even avoidable in the first weeks, but he called off negotiations after discussion with his friend Boris. If this is competence, I’d hate to see what your idea of incompetence might be.

          • Zemi says:

            And Putin got no citizens killed? And he accomplished his special military operation in the shortest time? I think not.

            • ivanislav says:

              I said nothing of Putin whatsoever – you brought that up because you don’t want to confront this fact: Zelensky destroyed his nation by refusing to deal with reality.

            • Zemi says:

              “I said nothing of Putin whatsoever – you brought that up because you don’t want to confront this fact: Zelensky destroyed his nation by refusing to deal with reality.”

              But Putin is key. What right does he have to tell Ukraine to do anything anyway? This shows what kind of an extremist you are. Heil you!

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Yeah – only America has that right!

          • drb753 says:

            He is qualified to depopulate Ukraine and make it a viable landing spot for his people in 10 or 20 years. He is an Israeli citizen after all. He is doing very well for Israel.

            • Zemi says:

              “He is qualified to depopulate Ukraine and make it a viable landing spot for his people in 10 or 20 years. He is an Israeli citizen after all. He is doing very well for Israel.”

              A very catty comment. The Pute should hire you as his Goebbels.

            • drb753 says:

              either every member of the cabinet has multiple passports, or not. there are no two ways about it. I can be Goebbels but you are Goofy of Disney fame.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Could be worse… you could be norm … NOF

            • Zemi says:

              “I can be Goebbels but you are Goofy of Disney fame.”

              Silly girl. 🙂 You deserve to be Russian.

            • jigisup says:

              “A very catty comment. The Pute should hire you as his Goebbels.”

              “Silly girl. 🙂 You deserve to be Russian.”

              Well there we have it. Definitive proof all Russians are national socialists. The 24 million Russian military personnel dead in WW1 and WW2 fighting national socialists of no matter. Putin is Hitler. Zelansky is Churchill.

              DRB might well be an ass. Im not disputing that. You can be both Russian and a ass. Even DRB would not contest that.

              How quick the nazi paintbrush emerged. What a versatile and effective tool! Dual passports taboo subject.

              Nuland Blinken Sullivan.

              If Israel and the USA are one and the same why not just come out and say it? Thats what it would appear to be. If its not than come out and say it. Im sorry 100% dual nationals in the highest level of state department is contrary to a sovereign nation. I dont care if they are Peruvian. If the USA is not a sovereign nation than just express that. Be truthful. Or is belief in USA as a sovereign nation “national socialism” now also? Why not dual passport for president? State department grand slam is far more powerful than presidency. Please educate me.

    • Z does not plot any strategy

      He only does what he is told to do

  11. Tim Groves says:

    Here’s another courageous Canadian doctor who has lost his license for going against the narrative. In this 48-minute presentation, Dr. William Makis talks about the Sudden Death Explosion Around the World.

    This presentation is absolutely amazing. You will hear about the 10–1–0.1 percent ratio—a statistic (based on Edward Dowd’s analysis) that suggests that around one in ten people (actually 18%) have reported injury related to their Covid injections, around one in a hundred (0.93%) are incapacitated to the point of being unable to work, and up to one in a thousand (0.05~0.1%) are dead.

    This last figure is plausible as far as I can see. In a country with a stable population and an average lifespan of eighty years, we would expect one eightieth (1.25%) of the population to die each year. If vaccines were killing one in a thousand in a single year, that would add 0.1% to the death rate, increasing it to 1.35%, representing excess mortality of 8%. These levels of excess or higher have been recorded in many countries around the world over past year, and have been shrugged off as ABV (Anything But the Vaxx).

    “Myocarditis is much more common following Covid vaccination than we’ve been led to believe,” says Dr. Makis. “It’s as common as one in thirty people—per vaccine.That is your risk of having heart injury, heart inflammation, from the vaccine—one in thirty. Now at that point, once you have a myocarditis, it’s usually subclinical. It’s usually silent. You don’t have the symptoms most of the time. Then you are at risk of arrhythmias that are potentially fatal. And not every myocarditis will lead to a sudden cardiac death, but any myocarditis can. That’s the risk. It doesn’t matter what age you are. It doesn’t matter male, female. Women are at almost as much risk of cardiac death as men.”

    Out of a hundred thousand doctors in Canada, 99% have been jabbed, hundreds have died, reveals Dr. Makis, and only a handful are speaking out.

    Kids, teenagers dying suddenly—in Canada, there used to be twenty to thirty such cases a year. In the past year, there have been hundreds or thousands of young people dying suddenly in Canada from heart arrhythmia or stroke. So many fit, healthy people dying suddenly, including parents with young children, tearing families apart. And this isn’t being reported or commented on. The silence of government and media is deafening.

    Dr. Makis is also very good on treatments. If you’ve been jabbed, he has some excellent suggestions for how to improve your changes of remaining healthy. And he emphasizes that we should be pro-active about taking care of our health and not re-active. Don’t wait for that first heart attack before starting to act. By then it may be too late.

    https://rumble.com/v2lq272-sudden-death-explosion-around-the-world-with-dr.-makis.html

    • drb753 says:

      I agree with the estimates Tim posts here. Except for deaths in the young. In Europe, a much bigger place, the 15-44 years old cohort has yet to express any obvious mortality excess. Fewer than the number of young deaths Fast Eddy posts about, out of 350 M people.

      euromomo.eu

      • I wonder whether the different vaccines make a difference.

        Moderna’s vaccine was particularly bad for myocarditis, I believe. Pfizer’s not quite as bad, and some of the others, better yet.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Another mate who was a rabid Vaxxer is now admitting brain fog and serious lack of energy — he was a bit of a fitness fanatic hitting the gym most days and hiking on weekends… that has all now stopped.

  12. Student says:

    (Israel National News + Sheba Medical Center)

    Another very funny news of this week was Fauci’s award ceremony by the famous Sheba Medical Center, which is an Israeli Hospital that has always communicated to everyone they treat Covid-19 patients also with Ivermectin, thanks to a successful study they had done.
    😀

    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/370818

    https://www.shebaonline.org/new-sheba-study-indicates-that-ivermectin-can-reduce-the-length-of-covid-19-infection/

  13. Student says:

    ‘Former Italian Prime Minister slapped on the street’

    It was a very busy week from work point of view.
    So let’s have some fun watching the video of a man who has slapped today the former Italian Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte for his terrible and useless lockdowns, to not to mention have pushed experimental vaccines.

    Of course the man is currently being described by mainstream media as ‘a very dangerous no-vax person’ 😀 😀 😀

    https://www.ilpost.it/flashes/giuseppe-conte-schiaffo/

  14. Keith seems to have given up his hopes for space energy satellites and is now on nanotech.

    nanotech is still earth energy. It won’t change the strategic situation or anything like that. No different from playing games on virtual world.

    It seems the iron has entered even into Keith’s mind.

    • Ed says:

      Nanotech can be used on the moon to build PV and mass drivers to send it to GEO orbit. I and I suspect Keith are still expecting SPS to provide abundant energy to earth in the next 50 years.

      • Ed

        can you define ‘nanotech’ in terms of building something—ie actual physical construction?

      • Fast Eddy says:

        And I’m expecting 2 very hot swimsuit models to knock at my door this afternoon and offer a filth filled or-G.

      • hkeithhenson says:

        Re “still expecting SPS ” ran into power satellites in 1975, when O’Neill merged them with space colonies as a way to pay for the colonies. Wrote a couple of papers with Eric Drexler for the 77 and 79 Space Manufacturing conferences and started hearing him talk about nanotech in 1979.

        Interest in power satellites kind of died on low energy cost and high transport cost into space. People are paying more attention now, but there are still problems. I run the Google group “power satellite economics” if you want to keep up.

        Far as 50 years out, I can’t get a handle on the rest of this year, so I have no idea. I could write a fiction story with a the power for an unloaded fast community sunk in the deep ocean for cooling coming from a power satellite.

        http://hplusmagazine.com/2012/04/12/transhumanism-and-the-human-expansion-into-space-a-conflict-with-physics/

  15. patrick helmick says:

    always enjoy and learn from your writing ! thank you

  16. Only Empires can develop great technology and civilizational advances

    When the Athenian Empire was there Athens led the world in science, technology and Philosophy.

    What did Athens do after its empire collapse ?

    Nothing

    Nothing at all

    I wrote that it was wrong, wrong, wrong for Woodrow Wilson to dismember the German and Austrian Empires and replacing them with bullshit countries like Poland, Czechoslovakia, etc.

    Bohmen was the richest province of the Austrian Empire and Budapest would have hosted the 1920 Olympics. Where is Bohmen now? It is doing a bit better than other Central European countries, but it is no world power. Budapest is just a decrepit city.

    For the sake of the development of human civilization, it would have been much better to keep these Empires, and leave the poles, czechs, etc stateless peoples.

    With multi-polarization, every cultural bloc will follow its own agenda, with no centralized effort for a megaproject possible. The international space program lost Russia permanently; it will never work with Russia again. That is just one of the first bricks falling out.

    Basically multi polarization means end of the advance to the next civilization.

    • the Athenians could not move faster than the speed of hoof and sail

      that was the limit of any form of ‘technology’

    • Ted Kaczynski says:

      A PHD dropout who was forced to flee the US to a remote village in India in order escape the crippling and enslaving student debt he could not repay (a modest ~20k debt which skyrocketed in interest), Chad has been an outspoken critic of the modern university financial scheme and the incoming student debt crisis that many are waiting to see burst. He is, however, generally not interested in moralizing or on following the typical trends of thought on what the important issues are. Attempting to comprehend modern society as a whole he has taken the comprehension of peak oil and its most raw meaning for our society as an integral part of a new starting point for rethinking metaphysics.

      The abstract meaning of peak oil is this: modern technical industrialism is itself unsustainable, not just because of an incoming ecological disaster, but because oil, the cheap and plentiful resource that undergirds most of our modern way of life along with other fossil fuels, is running out and we have no alternatives to keep the cheap energy gravy train going. This is where Chad’s book, Being and Oil Vol.1: Peak Oil Philosophy and the Ontology of Limitation, comes to intervene as a philosophical systematic investigation of the logic of our oil based society as a specific object where he deploys his new philosophy of substance to elucidate the nature of the issue beyond the simplicity of the falling number of barrels of oil. With the end of oil comes not jtust the end of mass industry, but of the very way people comprehend and know the world as new categories take place over old ones. A new theory of Being through substance as limit is set to explain why and how this is so.

      It is by virtue of oil that capitalism can continue to expand, it is by virtue of oil that financiers (usurers as Chad indicts them) make their unearned wealth, it is by virtue of oil that office “workers” (Chad doesn’t believe they genuinely work) can sit in a cozy office doing little all day and being paid more than those who do the real physical labor, it is by virtue of oil that teenage boys and twenty to thirty year old manchildren such as Destiny can make a living doing nothing but sitting at a computer all day playing video games to entertain jobless children. It is by virtue of oil that the most materially prosperous states in history have produced a populace who have essentially so little to do that they have fallen into depression, nihilism, and a life of pure appearance qua social media spectacle.

      Being is oil, says Chad, because modern industrial society as a whole from technology to ideology exist on the back of fossil fuels in a social logic of explosion, a logic of expansion where much is made by doing little through exploiting a finite resource to attempt to extract infinity. We burn fossil fuels so that we may burn fossil fuels. The economy grows so that it may grow more, the consumer consumes so that they may consume more. But regardless of ideology and desire, Nature has a real limit, the limit of its substance, a substance that is not a figment of our imagination nor a product of our will. Being is insofar as its limit exists, and when that limit disappears so does what is built upon it. Technological developments cannot save us from peak oil, he claims, because such activities are premised on oil. Machines to develop more machines only burns more oil to develop more oil burning machines. As Chad writes: “Everything we do is just a euphemism for burning fossil fuels.”
      https://empyreantrail.wordpress.com/2019/04/20/being-and-oil-chad-haags-transcendental-logic-of-oil-in-outline/

      • gpdawson2016 says:

        Well, well, well…. Ted Kaczynski! Is this your reply to my call to examine the works of Chad Haag recently? If it is …great! He deserves all the attention we can muster. Is it a coincidence that you have the tag of Ted Kaczynski? Maybe you also read his wonderful biography of the Unabomber? I finished it last month.
        I grudgingly had to admit that the solutions we seek here on OFW will have to be found in philosophy… I know, I know, many will not see it… but there it lies. Too much work for most.

        As an aside: we all knew that with the onset of Peak Oil that a certain madness would enter into human affairs.. a refusal to cope or to adjust, what some would call Cognitive Dissonance. A sophisticated form of ‘pretending’ is what I call it…well Chad Haag does stirling job of exposing this trait in all of us.

        Go watch him on YouTube….you won’t be disappointed.

        • Ted Kaczynski says:

          Yes, I did! He has an interesting life and I purchased most of his books.

          The philosophy major concedes that his student loan balance of around $20,000 isn’t as large as the burden shouldered by many other borrowers, but he said his difficultly finding a college-level job in the U.S. has made that debt oppressive nonetheless. “If you’re not making a living wage,” Haag said, “$20,000 in debt is devastating.”

          He struggled to come up with the $300 a month he owed. The first work he found after he graduated from the University of Northern Colorado in 2011 — when the recession’s effects were still palpable — was on-again, off-again hours at a factory, unloading trucks and constructing toy rockets on an assembly line. He then went back to school to pursue a master’s degree in comparative literature at the University of Colorado Boulder. After that, he tried to make it as an adjunct professor, but still he could barely scrape a living together with the one class a semester he was assigned.

          Haag had some hope restored when he landed full-time work as a medical courier in Denver, delivering urine and blood samples to hospitals. However, he was disappointed to find that he brought home just $1,700 a month. He had little money left over after he paid his student loan bill. He couldn’t afford an apartment in the city, where rents have been rising sharply. He lived with his mother and rarely went out with friends.

          “I couldn’t make the math work in America,” Haag said.

          Milestones that seemed like pipe dreams back home, like starting a family, and owning a house, are now on his horizon. This year he married an Indian citizen, a professor at a local college. He now has a five-year spousal visa, and plans to renew it when the time comes.

          If you’re not making a living wage, $20,000 in debt is devastating.

          Still, he said, “I have a higher standard of living in a Third World country than I would in America, because of my student loans.”

          Outstanding student debt in the U.S. has tripled over the last decade and is projected to swell to $2 trillion by 2022. Average debt at graduation is currently around $30,000, up from an inflation-adjusted $16,000 in the early 1990s. Meanwhile, salaries for new bachelor degree recipients, also accounting for inflation, have remained almost flat over the last few decades.

          https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/10/26/he-moved-to-a-jungle-in-india-to-escape-his-student-debt–and-hes-not-alone-.html

        • reante says:

          Thanks gp. I submit that what is found in philosophy only ever comes from what is found the ecology, otherwise it’s not philosophy in the strict sense of the word.

      • reante says:

        Great link, thanks Ted.

        This comment below the article seems right up your alley, norm. It’s a good one, I especially like the second sentence which is right up my alley seeing as how I maintain that the Present doesn’t actually exist:

        “No device can produce sum useful Energy in excess of the total Energy put into constructing it. Energy always and only comes flowing from the past into the future”.

        “Humans have never managed and will never manage to extract/produce one unit of Energy by expending less than one unit of Energy, and No Energy store holds enough Energy to extract and collect an equal amount of the Energy it stores” (The Fifth Law).

        • Tim Groves says:

          “When you think about it, nothing ever exists, in fact. I was working this out in the post office as I was waiting for that woman to finish twanging her elastic bands. The future doesn’t exist because it hasn’t happened yet; the past doesn’t exist because it’s already over. But the present doesn’t exist, because as soon as you start to think about it it’s already in the past. Which doesn’t exist any more.”

          —Victor Meldrew

          • reante says:

            If stringing together one paradoxical, self-canceling thought after another is what passes for him ‘thinking’ then oblivion is what Victor gets. Inhabit an MC Escher-style mental hall of mirrors and nihilism is what Victor gets.

            Our five senses confirmed existence eons ago. That’s our mammalian grounding.

            • Tim Groves says:

              Victor is often misunderstood.

              Please bear in mind that Victor doesn’t exist, except as a fictional character in a sitcom—one of the funniest British sitcoms ever, IMHO, especially for viewers with a twisted or jaundiced sense of humour.

              You DID know that, didn’t you? Of course you did—your attempt to analyze his psyche as if he did exist as a real person notwithstanding.

              Cracks me up every time I watch an episode of One foot in the Grave. Well, you’ve got to laugh, ain’t ya?

              The world of this sitcom has a lot in common with the “simulation” some people believe we are all in. Weird inexplicable things seem to happen to Victor all the time—as if the Universe was picking on him. Hence his trademark exasperated cry of “I DON’T BELIEVE IT!”

              “Victor Meldrew was not just the archetype old moaner. I mean, he moaned with purpose, he really did. He carried the flag for all of us who were disenchanted with modern life.”
              — Roy Hudd

            • reante says:

              Thanks Tim you got me. 🙂

              I remember adults mentioning One Foot in the Grave every so often when I was growing up. Never saw an episode.

            • Tim Groves says:

              Then you could be in for a real treat!

              My dad in the UK sent me VHS copies of the original One Foot in the Grave as it was one of his favorite shows in his last years. I hated it at first—as I do most new comedy—but once I got into it I loved it.

              Another well-written “cerebral” sitcom from the same period that Dad liked and I initially had trouble getting into was Ever Decreasing Circles, starring Richard Briers as the neurotic Martin Bryce—”an obsessive, middle-aged man at the centre of his local suburban community in East Surrey.”

              Besides being funny and illustrating the psychological profiles of obsessive compulsive main characters—who never quite have nervous breakdowns but are never very far away from having one—both of those shows presented a credible facsimile of middle-class middle-aged London suburbia in the eighties and nineties.

              I wonder how much of that culture remains recognizeable in 2023? Not very much, I would expect.

            • reante says:

              Thanks for the second recommendation. Looks like it was set in my old neck of the woods, born in Crawley and grew up in Reigate. Will have to ask my mum if she ever saw it, we left for the US in ’83.

      • Tsubion says:

        If we accept for a moment that not much of what we do is actually logical then everything starts to makes sense. The lazy bums playing video games on their fancy (and expensive) pc builds promote the development of the latest graphics cards and microprocessors which in turn advance other technologies such as artificial vision for all kinds of uses, the latest being guidance systems for self-driving vehicles and autonomous robots.

        Peacocks develop beautiful feathered displays to prove to females that despite their ridiculous illogical display they can still survive. And then on some kind of meta level peacocks get to survive even longer one would naturally expect through some kind of luck-based selection process that scoops them up and breeds them for fancy gardens and parks worldwide.

        Not everything has to be viewed through the lens of utility in the practical sense. Many things don’t make sense at all and they become some of the largest industries in the world such as video games and sugar! And because people are unable to resist temptation these industries continue to flourish and beget other industries and technologies that never would have occurred to the boffins otherwise.

        Materials science can change everything in our world. It’s extremely possible that beyond this time period people may look back and view our methods as antiquated, quaint, barbaric, and even stupid much as we do the same now when looking at the antics of our ancestors who of course were incapable of imagining such wonders as microchips and electrical grids.

      • The opportunity cost of Glen having given up his PhD would be enormous

    • Think of the Babylonians, as well, located in modern day Iraq. They had a huge number of accomplishments.

      https://learnodo-newtonic.com/babylon-achievements

      1. THEIR CAPITAL CITY WAS THE LARGEST CITY IN THE WORLD

      #2 THEY DEVELOPED THE FIRST EVER POSITIONAL NUMBER SYSTEM

      #3 THEY COULD PERFORM ADVANCED ARITHMETIC CALCULATIONS

      #4 THEY WERE THE FIRST TO USE SOPHISTICATED GEOMETRY TO TRACK MOVING OBJECTS

      #5 BABYLONIAN ASTRONOMY LAID THE BASIS FOR ALL WESTERN ASTRONOMY

      And on and on.

      In the Old Testament in the Bible, Babylon took at number of people from Jerusalem and made them captive in Babylon. The current Hebrew alphabet was adopted during the period of Babylonian captivity. Wikipedia reports,

      “According to many historical-critical scholars, the Torah was redacted during this time, and began to be regarded as the authoritative text for Jews.”

      Of course, today we don’t expect much from Iraq.

      • the babylonians–and others–had no means of moving anything other than by muscle power

        there lies the difference between them an us

        • Tim Groves says:

          Don’t you also employ muscle power to turn on your washing machine or hold your power tools or start your car, Norman? Or do you use The Force?

          And by the way, water wheels have been in use since about 4000 B.C, so the Babylonians and their contemporaries did have a means of moving things other than by muscle power.

          In water wheel history recorded by ancient Mesopotamia, irrigation machines are referred to in Babylonian inscriptions, but without details on their construction, suggesting that water power had been harnessed for irrigation purposes. The primitive use of water-rotated wheels may date back to Sumerian times, with references to a “Month for raising the Water Wheels”, though it is not known whether these wheels were turned by the flow of a river.

          With all this misinformation, fake history and dodgy factoids you are putting out, I am seriously considering reporting you to Snopes.

          • Tim Groves says:

            Oh, I forgot to add: 🙂

            • just watched the coronation–except during Crownus Interruptus by your good self

              all those folks outside the palace—forced to stand there and fake it, under the watchful force of armed guards making them cheer

              just terrible

          • the sail and the water wheel and the oar use the same mechanical principle tim—they are levers—made by muscle alone.—using biomass as the base material, that biomass transmits energy without being consumed by fire

            Levers are not consumed by the force of energy delivery–other than by time-decay

            we use engines, which also function on biomass

            the difference being that biomass in that respect IS consumed by the force of energy-delivery. We exist on the surpluses created.
            If you can’t grasp that tim–>>>>>>the waterwheel/windmill (biomass) is used over and over, while petrol (also biomass) is used only once.

            THAT represents the difference between ancient civilisations and our own

            do try to think these things through before commenting–explanations embarrass me on your behalf. You really are inclined to trip over your own ‘cleverness’

            I would prefer it otherwise

            The washing machine reference, I assume you were drawing on your wit-stiore–i could make no other sense of it

          • Tim Groves says:

            Lord, give me strength! (said in my best Charton Heston voice) And patience!

            There was I thinking a water wheel draws on hydropower. It uses kinetic energy from the movement of water. And it is also called a turbine.

            And there I was thinking a sail draws on wind power. When installed on a boat, the sail uses kinetic energy of the wind to propel the boat.

            But according to Norman, both water wheels and sails are examples of muscle power.

            Well, you learn something new every day.

            What I learned today is that Norman can chew the hind legs of a donkey and perform feats of verbal gymnastics worthy of an Olympic champion in order to maneuver himself out of the embarrassing, nay, intolerable situation of having to admit being in error.

            • what i said was—windmils waterwheels and sails are levers

              those levers are constructed out of biomass to become levers, through the application of muscle power.

              (Try making any of the above without muscle power??)

              If you care to examine the construction of an old wooden windmill–it is just a sailing ship stood on end.–All made with handtools—and muscle power.

              Without man made levers, the kinetic energy in wind and water cannot be extracted. (unless you have access to laws of physics i am not privy to?)

              we use levers to elevate our existence by extracting energy to our collective benefit–that has been the powerbase of every civilisation, until the one we are in now.

              The fire engine changed that. Instead of the lever being biomass which can be used indefinetly (for the sake of this ‘discussion’)–we burn biomass to move the lever.

              Using the IC engine, the energy in petrol cannot be extracted without the process of setting fire to it.—(that moves the levers within the engine and the wheels)

            • Tim Groves says:

              He’s back!

              For that matter, try making a fire engine without using muscle power.

              Try making any kind of IC engine without using muscle power.

              I’ll wait while you use the Force to do that, but I won’t be holding my breath.

            • no–don’t hold your breath—civilidsation would come to a halt waiting for the next one

              ic engines are machines that are made by machines—right back to James Watt and Newcomen–a natural progression

              a friend of mine builds steam engines literally from scratch—but he has a shed full of kit to enable him to do it.—he has colossal skill and know how—but his muscles are used to switch things on and off and set machines—making a ‘point’ about muscle on that scale is somewhet ridiculous

            • Tim Groves says:

              No, it isn’t ridiculous. It’s the whole point.

              Without somebody moving muscles, no new engines will get built.

              The fully automated economy from mining minerals through to finished machine goods is not quite here yet.

              So we and the Babylonians have a lot more in common than you like to babble on about.

              Babylonians! Babble on about!
              Get it?!

            • heres the deal tim

              find yourself an old fashioned blacksmith—you know, a big guy with muscles, a hammer and a forge with unlimited piles of charcoal—

              give him a pile of iron ore

              tell him you’ll be back next week, with the expectation that he will have produced an engine for a formula one racing car

            • oh tim

              when you have to explain alliteration

              it evaporates

              any writer worth his ink knows that

            • Tim Groves says:

              Just count yourself as fortunate that I am not poking you in the shoulder as I shout “Get it!?”

              Well, Norman, it’s been a lot of fun chatting with you, but it’s past my bedtime and I haven’t finished my quota of paid work for today. So I’ll bid you Adiós and Abiento!

            • those with alliterative skills never ever have to say the word ”geddit”

              just one of those things you may one day ‘get’

              i would quote the last line of Hamlet–but those in attendance might get the wrong idea

    • Mirror on the wall says:

      Perhaps the question that you might ask is why Russia would ‘need’ Europe.

      What resources has Europe got left bar Norwegian fossil fuels and UKR fields?

      China clearly is capable of developing technology, so who needs Germans let alone Austrians?

      Any country can call itself an ’empire’, and ‘the German Empire’ was just a (almost) modern nation state; it means nothing what you call yourself.

      Austria-Hungary had some great music, but no one is saying that it made huge advances in technology or anything else.

      The picture now seems to be that Germany / Austria are basically irrelevant, and the same may be true of western Europe as a whole in the future.

      East Asia has about 2/3 of new patents now, Germany 4%, UK 1% and the rest of Europe is not even on the radar.

      From Gail’s link:

      > In 2021, out of 1,608,375 patents across multiple fields, 87% were granted to innovators from just six countries.

      China 607,758 37.8%
      United States 286,205 17.8%
      Japan 256,890 16.0%
      South Korea 156,972 9.8%
      Germany 69,672 4.3%
      United Kingdom 20,009 1.2%

      • GP says:

        Like so many things in the modern world it is very unclear to me whether ‘patents’ mean much these days.

        Other than for purposes of moving perceived wealth from one place to another via litigation.

        The value of a patent may have about as much useful meaning as does the value of a regular peer reviewed document.

        One problem with patents can be that the concept they claim may atrophy due to lack of enhancement, something that could be identified in the world of pharma some years ago.

        In that example, however, stunted research and development may turn out to have been a good thing.

  17. Ted Kaczynski says:

    Thanks Gail, looks as if your fear was spot on…about a functional financial system crashing first….
    But on a Historical note…
    https://www.wmur.com/amp/article/this-day-in-history-first-american-in-space-astronaut-alan-shepard/43782416

    This Day in History: Astronaut Alan Shepard became the first American in space
    Updated: 5:07 AM EDT May 5, 2023
    By Sydney Hartman
    Alan Shepard Jr., a Navy Commander and one of NASA’s first seven astronauts, became the first American to travel into space on May 5, 1961.

    Shepard was launched into space from Cape Canaveral, Florida, aboard the Freedom 7 space capsule, which only had enough room for one person.

    The flight, which did not orbit Earth, lasted about 15 minutes and reached a height of 116 miles into the atmosphere before splashing down in the Atlantic Ocean. The mission was a success.

    Shortly after NASA was established in 1958, the United States and the Soviet Union were in a race to become the first country to put a person in space and return them to Earth. On April 12, 1961, the Soviet space program won the race when Yuri Gagarin was launched into space, put in orbit around the planet and safely returned to Earth.

    One month later, Shepard’s successful suborbital flight helped to restore faith in the U.S. space program.

    Shepard went on to take part in several other NASA missions, including Apollo 14, which landed on the moon in 1971. He became the fifth astronaut to walk on the moon and the first person to hit a golf ball on the moon.

    Shepard left NASA in 1974. He died in 1998 at the age of 74.

    Let’s all pay homage to those brave men ….

    • Fast Eddy says:

      I watched this again a few days ago

      • Ted Kaczynski says:

        Who Started the Moon Landing Hoax Conspiracy Theory?
        this video:
        https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0SnUaeMuyB0&t=952s&pp=ygUXQ29uc3BpcmFjeSBtb2tuIGxhbmRpbmc%3D

        Since the early 1970s conspiracy theorists have created ever more elaborate stories about how NASA faked the moon landings, much to the annoyance of the literal hundreds of thousands of people who worked in some capacity to make these missions a reality, and even more so to the men who were brave enough to sit in front of a massive controlled explosion, take a little jaunt through the soul crushing void of space in an extremely complex ship built by the lowest bidder, then get into another spacecraft whose ascent engine had never been test fired before they lit the candle, and all with the goal of exiting said ship with only a special suit between them and oblivion.

        Want the text version?: http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.p

        Sources:

        https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=N
        https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=p
        http://www.billkaysing.com/hoaxtheory
        https://www.popsci.com/military-aviat
        https://www.wired.com/1994/09/moon-land/
        http://edition.cnn.com/2009/TECH/spac
        http://www.independent.co.uk/news/obi
        http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/bad
        https://www.theguardian.com/education
        http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/fo
        https://historycollection.jsc.nasa.go
        https://publishersnewswire.com/news/2
        https://medium.com/@kthorjensen/what-
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_la
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ka
        https://www.space.com/12814-top-10-ap

        • Tim Groves says:

          Ted, are you familiar with that book How to Avoid Research and Never Ask Questions?

          The advice it contains is:

          1. Say “conspiracy theory” out loud, with confidence.

          2. After saying “conspiracy theory”, laugh loudly.

          3. Go to Snopes.com.

          Works every time.

        • JMS says:

          zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

          • Fast Eddy says:

            Anyone who insists we have been to the moon may as well brand ‘I’m a F789ing MOREON’ on their forehead

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Well that’s odd – here is NASA recently saying it is not possible to pass trough the Van Allen Belts due to the ‘dangerous levels of radioactivity’ — and that they are working on a space craft that some day will be able to do so safely:

          https://youtu.be/4O5dPsu66Kw?t=168

          More

          https://youtu.be/KpuKu3F0BvY?t=3582

          Explain (oh yes – they knew how to do that but they destroyed the technology right)

          There is stooopid … and then there is Pure MOREONISM. One should try to avoid either

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Hey Ted … you forgot to include Snopes

          • Ted Kaczynski says:

            “We find ourselves awash in an ocean of information online,” National Space Centre Discovery Director Profesor Anu Ojha said during a 2019 lecture at Royal Museums Greenwich.

            “There has been more data produced in the last two years than in the whole of human history. This information ocean is getting more turbulent every single day,” he continued. “The only tools we have to navigate through this maelstrom are the critical thinking skills that we are trying to develop in people as scientists.”

            So how can science help to debunk Moon landing conspiracy theories?
            https://www.rmg.co.uk/stories/topics/moon-landing-conspiracy-theories-debunked

            And ….

        • TIm Groves says:

          FE, have I got a treat for you!

          Have I got a treat for you?

          As it happens, I Have.

          It’s some additional ballast to help debunk all the bunk Ted has listed above. It’s called:
          THE APOLLO MOON HOAX: HOW DID THEY DO IT?: A GENERATION DECEIVED BY NASA

          It’s by Trevor Weaver, a retired Yorkshireman a bit younger than Norman and a bit of a Renaissance man by all accounts.

          From the Amazon reviews:

          The author created an online reference companion detailing many of the countless different proofs the evidence of the Apollo record was fabricated (and not all are even referenced; there are many others!) For those new to the reality that the Apollo missions were a fraud, this is currently the best source as long as you use his companion website for reference.

          The strongest arguments he discusses are the footage leaked and published by Bart Sibrel in which you see Armstrong, Collins, and Aldrin faking footage of them 130,000 miles out when they were visibly in low-Earth orbit (available uncut on Seb Menard’s YouTube channel) and Jet Wintzer’s showing of a metal cord being tossed on a NASA video of one Apollo mission and creating a sound (impossible in a vaccum) as it literally bangs off the Lunar Module after being tossed in the “Moon.” Of course, there are dozens of other proofs the Apollo missions were a fraud discussed and you should research them yourself. Research the so-called “debunkers” try and “debunk” this stuff too as they engage in special pleading to try and explain away smoking gun evidence (e.g., Armstrong et al. were just “practicing” a shot of them from 130,000 miles out… yeah right).

          https://www.amazon.com/APOLLO-MOON-HOAX-GENERATION-DECEIVED/product-reviews/B0BYRPXMRP/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_show_all_btm?ie=UTF8&reviewerType=all_reviews

          And this is a link to Trevor’s website, which I haven’t browsed.

          https://www.man-on-the-moon.info

          • and they faked it six times tim–don’t forget that

            because nobody would have believed it was a fake if they’d only faked it just once

            reinforced fakery—like eddys four number cusswords—endlessly repeated in case anyone forgets how real words frighten him—so fake words become critical—at least your don’t indulg e in skoolyards cussing tim.

            it just occurred to me–writing this,–i wonder why they never re-did the wtc 6 times—just so everyone would ”know” it was faked—or kennedys shooting for that matter—6 shootings would have been much better that just one

            dont you think?

          • Tim Groves says:

            Since it wasn’t possible to put astronauts on the moon, they had no choice but to fake it.

            I posted video evidence last month indicating that Apollo 11 didn’t reach orbit. That evidence alone seemed conclusive to me. The film was genuine. It showed the rocket passing through a bank of stratus clouds when it should have already been at three times the altitude of the highest stratus clouds. The rest is physics and ice cold logic.

            It’s not rocket science, Norman! They faked it.

            You ask why they faked it six times. All I can say is it isn’t my Jackanory. Nobody gave me the script. It isn’t incumbent upon me to speculate as to why they did this or didn’t do that.

            Same with nine eleven. And the JFK hit.

            If you believe or accept or support the official narrative about anything without proof beyond reasonable doubt, that’s your right. Be as credulous as you like. Nobody cares. Nobody will try to force you to recant. We are not the Spanish Inquisition here.

            Why can’t you let those of us who are skeptical, rational, rigorous scientific thinkers who have minds like a bacon slicer exercise our right to remain incredulous in the face of the very reasonable doubts that exist around the subjects you mentioned?

            Precisely what is your problem with that?

            Chesterton wrote “When men stop believing in God they don’t believe in nothing; they believe in anything.”

            You seem to be a textbook example of this tendency. Apparently, you believe in anything your single-source-of-truth TV talking heads or the newspaper columnists tell you to believe. You’ve outsourced your critical faculties and life is just swell while they do all your thinking for you. Don’t you ever go off the reservation?

            • hmmmmm
              in caps tim?

              When i was learning my limited craft of writing, a golden rule was—avoid caps like the plague

              Never raise your voice–whatever the context–bad form

              as i said—six fakes??

              lets stop this nonsense

              fake one—nobody fakes six—and that applies in any context you care to think of

            • Tim Groves says:

              Well, fake only disappoints when found out.

              I have no need to speculate about the motive behind the fakery, do I?

              If you are suggesting they wouldn’t have faked six launches, you must have a reason for believing that. It isn’t an axiomatic belief, is it?

              Would it have been any more impossible to fake six trips to the lunar surface than to fake one? Plus two trips around the moon that didn’t land—so that’s a total of eight trips.

              Faking eight trips wouldn’t break any laws of physics, would it?

              It wouldn’t break any habits of organized criminal activity, would it?

              I mean, gangs who rob banks tend to repeat it if they get away with it first time? Master forgers who sell copies of the Mona Lisa as originals to gullible rich folk don’t stop after the first successful sale? Conmen of all kinds seldom stop after clearing out one mark?

              So, given what we know about criminals being habitual offenders, and about the decreasing costs of mass production, why would they necessarily stop at one fake moonshot?

            • repeated crime brings financial gain—until caught, so that is a silly comparison

              repeat faking moonshots as far as i can see, brings no return whatsoever–why bother?

              comparing it to ‘criminal activity’ smacks of desperation to me—bit like the Ghenghis Khan massacres

            • Tim Groves says:

              No, it’s not a silly comparison at all. It’s a very apt comparison.

              If you can’t see that, it’s because of your inability to see or your unwillingness to look.

              Obviously, and patently so, IF it was fake, THEN it was also criminal.

              Can you see that?

              ¿Lo entiendes?

              Comprenez vous?

              Verstehst du?

              “Why bother?”

              As I said earlier, I don’t have the script. They never consulted me about what their real intentions were.

              Your incredulity notwithstanding, what evidence beyond reasonable doubt do you have that any of the missions sent men to the moon?

              Nothing?

              Nothing at all?

              That’s what I thought.

            • a demand to disprove a negative is the last refuge of the charlatan

              ( i demand that you disprove my certainty that there is a chocolate teapot in orbit around Mars)

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Shall we classify someone who’s brain is infused with spike protein from Rat Juicing… as …

              Mentally Ill?

              Or brain damaged?

              norm >> feel free to discuss

            • like i said eddy

              i dip into your comment-fest at random

              and there you go–obsessing about me again

              not healthy mate

              sorry i can’t return the obsession—my comment rate to yours is about 1 : 100—i can’t spare the life-time at my age

            • Tim Groves says:

              Wrong again, Norman.

              Actually, objecting to the mode of the criticism in order to evade addressing its substance is the last refuge of a charlatan. And at that game, you are a serial offender.

              Besides, I simply asked if you could supply evidence beyond reasonable doubt of the validity of a positive.

              Interesting that you seem unwilling or unable to have a bash at that.

              I made no mention of proving anything.

              I would have expected you to provide proof. I can’t even imagine what would count as proof in this case, short of going to the moon and looking at the alleged landing sites.

              Russell’s teapot is an analogy, formulated to illustrate that the philosophic burden of proof lies upon a person making empirically unfalsifiable claims, rather than shifting the burden of disproof to others.

              Russell specifically applied his analogy in the context of religion. He wrote that if he were to assert, without offering proof, that a teapot, too small to be seen by telescopes, orbits the Sun somewhere in space between the Earth and Mars, he could not expect anyone to believe him solely because his assertion could not be proven wrong.

              Let’s apply Russell’s thinking to your beliefs about Apollo.

              If you were to assert, without offering proof, that six Apollo craft landed on the moon, but their landing sites were too small to be seen by telescopes, you could not expect anyone to believe you solely because your assertion could not be proven wrong.

              You haven’t actually offered any proof, have you, Norman? Indeed, you haven’t presented us with a smidgen of evidence to support your assertion.

              So I will throw back at you Hitchens’s Razor: “That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.” You can’t expect anyone to believe you just because what you say can’t be proven wrong, no matter how much you sulk about it.

              Incidentally, responding to the invocation of Russell’s “Celestial Teapot” by biologist Richard Dawkins as evidence against religion, an apologia by philosopher Paul Chamberlain contends that such arguments rely on an undue distinction between positive and negative claims. Chamberlain says it is logically erroneous to assert that positive truth claims bear a burden of proof while negative truth claims do not; he says “every truth claim, whether positive or negative, has a burden of proof.”

            • it would seem that the last remaining option in this daft exchange, is for both of us to go to the moon and check for footprints
              alone wouldn’t be enough–as neither would trust the ‘proof’ of the other.

            • Tim Groves says:

              Whoops: => I wouldn’t have expected you to provide proof.

            • Ted Kaczynski says:

              Probing the interior composition of objects in the Solar System is most effectively accomplished through seismic data. The way acoustic waves generated by quakes move through and reflect from material inside a planet or moon can help scientists create a detailed map of the object’s interior.

              We happen to have lunar seismic data collected by the Apollo mission, but its resolution is too low to accurately determine the inner core’s state. We know there is a fluid outer core, but what it encompasses remains under debate. Models of a solid inner core and an entirely fluid core work equally well with the Apollo data.
              …..The inner core, the team found, also has a density of about 7,822 kilograms per cubic meter. That’s very close to the density of iron.

              Curiously, in 2011 a team led by NASA Marshall planetary scientist Renee Weber found a similar result using what were then state-of-the-art seismological techniques on Apollo data to study the lunar core. They found evidence of a solid inner core with a radius of about 240 kilometers, and a density about 8,000 kilograms per cubic meter.

              https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-finally-confirm-whats-inside-the-moon

              Seems obvious the Apollo data from the moon exists

            • Ted

              you will be cast into the outer darkness for daring to confirm the Appollo moon landings actially happened

            • Fast Eddy says:

              The thing about the 6 trips .. is that it would create the appearance that flying off to space is mundane… furthering the narrative that we will soon be colonizing far off planets…

              The thing is … if it was so easy back then … why have we never done it again?

              By now there should be a luxury hotel on the moon – and the moderately wealthy should be able to afford a week up there… they could play golf… take a ride on a buggy… collect rocks… take photos of the landscape …

      • ssincoski says:

        Thanks for reposting this link. I’ll take a peek. Also wanted to thank you for the Utopia recommendation. I’m into season 2 of the UK version. Really enjoying it.

    • Eeyores Enigma says:

      Not!!! Basically he says that collapse will happen very slowly and America will just retool industry and start making everything we need ourselves.

      He was burned by the peak oil “fad” so now he can’t even see it. Hey if I haven’t died yet I probably never will.

      • reante says:

        Yeah JMG has always been a lightweight cosplaying cult figure with the requisite brittle ego for those inclined towards a permanent bargaining phase. Man can that guy put on airs.

        • NomadicBeer says:

          Thank you reante, you are exactly right about him.
          I feel sorry for myself – I read him for a decade and I really believed that he is an upright, honest thinker.

          And then he created his dreamwidth blog where he does not allow any “conspiracy theories”.

          He is an intellectual coward of the first order that would fit right in NBCCBC lineup.

          One good thing he did is that he keeps rehashing all the 1970s ideas (ecology, appropriate tech etc) – ideas which might deserve a fair hearing.

        • Tim Groves says:

          I always wondered how one becomes an “Archdruid” these days.

          Neither the Pope nor the Archbishop of Canterbury will confer that title for love nor money, although both are big on cosplay.

          It seems that the simplest way to qualify is to play a computer game and play it really really well.

          • I have heard JMG talk about how he became an Archdruid. I found a link also. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Michael_Greer

            Greer came to Druidry by way of the Order of Bards, Ovates and Druids in 1995 after some twenty years’ involvement in Hermetic occult spirituality. He received the Mount Haemus Award in 2003 from OBOD for his lecture “Phallic Religion in the Druid Revival”.[2] He served as Grand Archdruid of the Ancient Order of Druids in America (AODA), an initiatory organization teaching Celtic nature spirituality, from 2003–2015. He wrote The Druidry Handbook, which serves as the AODA’s core textbook and curriculum.[3]

            Greer also created the training program for the Druidical Order of the Golden Dawn, an order which fuses druidry with Golden Dawn ceremonial magic, which he founded in 2013.[4] He wrote The Celtic Golden Dawn: An Original & Complete Curriculum of Druidical Study, which serves as the orders’s core textbook and curriculum.[5]

            This is another link: https://www.controverscial.com/John%20Michael%20Greer.htm

            • Fast Eddy says:

              so he’s severely mentally ill

            • hkeithhenson says:

              That’s funny. We both link to Druid. From the Wikipedia page about me,

              Druid prank

              Henson was known at the University of Arizona as one of the founders of the Druid Student Center, where a campus humor newspaper, The Frumious Bandersnatch[5][better source needed] was published in the late 1960s. He cited an incident while he was a student as a good example of memetic replication. When someone asked him to fill in a form which required him to disclose his religious affiliations he wrote Druid. His prank was soon noticed by other students and before long almost 20% of the student body had registered themselves as Reform Druids, Orthodox Druids, Members of the Church of the nth Druid, Zen Druids, Latter-Day Druids and so on. The university was forced to remove the religious affiliation question.[6]

    • I saw a version of this article as I was writing my post, so in some sense it may have got me thinking in this direction.

      https://unherd.com/2023/04/americas-empire-is-bankrupt/

      JMG is more of a student of history than I am, so it got me thinking. His ending makes no sense as Eeyores Enigma says. I didn’t see anything to directly link to in his post.

      I don’t like talking about hegemony and “hegemon” because they are not well understood by the general public. The world “hegemon” gets flagged as a misspelling in at least some software.

    • NomadicBeer says:

      Note for the naive: this is the same JMG that has a dreamwidth blog where you are not allowed to post “conspiracy theories”.
      I tested him and posted “humans are omnivores” as a reply to a vegetarian poster and yes he removed that comment.

      I am sorry but I lost all respect for him. He is a full-blown coward that follows all the mainstream lies. He pretends to be an expert in conspiracies but he could not point out ONE conspiracy when I asked him. Really?

      So no, I won’t bother to reread his latest rehash of 1970s ideas stolen from the Club of Rome (another conspiracy he denies exists).

      • Tim Groves says:

        I sense that there’s a certain personality type that likes being a guru, likes to project their authority, insists on their status, and often manages to draw a crowd of followers to sit at their feet.

        From the ambience they exude, I get the impression that the Archdruid is one such, as in their own extremely idiosyncratic ways are Noam Chomsky, Guy McPherson (although his is a pretty small group), and in a previous generation Murray Bookchin comes to mind. A lot of their followers act like groupies or cultists. I suppose this is because such personalities attract such followers and repel non-groupies.

        Gail isn’t like that. Tim Morgan isn’t like that. Richard Dawkins (like him or loath him—and who doesn’t?) isn’t like that to any great extent. Gore Vidal wasn’t like that. Christopher Hitchens wasn’t like that. Kurt Vonnegut wasn’t like that at all. All thought they all have or had their fanboys and girls.

        You can get a good handle on whether people are like that or not by how they handle criticism and how patient they are with dissidents or pests.

        • When I met Guy McPherson, I was impressed with how meticulous he was about his hair and clothing. When he showed slides about his proposed home in the wilderness, it had very fancy appliances. He could never get along with the other folks who were in the same sustainability group. Somethings looked terribly wrong for going into the sustainability business. A major goal seemed to be to impress folks.

          Dmitry Orlov comes across as a fairly humble fellow.

          I have never met Tim Morgan in person. The way he throws around “Dr.” leads me to believe that he is out to impress people. His model is a close spin off of Charlie Hall’s EROEI model. The two do not get along at all. Perhaps Tim Morgan and Charlie Hall both have high status needs. They each want to impress somewhat different groups.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            The one thing all of those fellas have in common — and norm … is they all aspire to be Fast Eddy. Because Fast Eddy is the GOAT doomsday entity.

            Fast Eddy gave the world UEP.

        • a big sign to go above the entrance door to OFW—

          //////You can get a good handle on whether people are like that or not by how they handle criticism and how patient they are with dissidents or pests.//////

        • Fast Eddy says:

          If putting on a wizard suit gets him laid by hippy chicks… then more power to him

          If not … then he’s mentally ill – and likely insane.

          anna … where are you anna… oh there she is .. banging her head against the wall over and over and over … what’s that you are mumbling anna? Fast Eddy is a what? I can’t make it out…

  18. kakatoa says:

    Gail,

    I read a post recently that discussed alternatives to nuclear war that seem very plausible:
    https://blackjay.net.au/an-alternative-to-nuclear-war/

    Yesterday was the 53rd anniversary of the altercation at Kent State. It seems the song OHIO was commercialized in record time- How Neil Young Came To Write OHIO After Kent State – Bing video

    • If a country wants to get rid of the market for its goods, it can blow up lines to them. But it doesn’t seem like a very good idea.

      All evidence is that the US blew up the natural gas pipelines from Russia to Europe. Its motive was probably to keep natural gas prices higher, but that hasn’t really worked. European and US natural gas prices both need to be higher for producers to want to continue adding new production.

  19. Tanker Niovi Seized by Iran, 2nd Tanker Captured,
    Why No Response by the U.S. & World Navies?

    • Well worth a view (19:16)

      • Student says:

        Matt, because actually it is all a fight of seizures to one another and we normally have only info of what they seize and not of what we seize with excuses like ‘divine sanctions’ or similar.
        It is difficult to stay up to date.
        But if you want to stay so, I suggest you to sign for newsletters of ‘GCaptain’, ‘MarittimeExecutive’ and ‘Splash’ news.
        Although they are reports on our side, they let things be understood.

    • jigisup says:

      Tanker transits strait of Hormez. Complete with bio convergence trap and skeet.

    • ivanislav says:

      Please tell me you’re not a total ignoramus and you know that the US navy first seized an oil tanker headed from Iran to China, and this is Iran’s response.

      • Listen to the video. It is about a much broader issue.

      • jigisup says:

        I can find no trace of the event you assert on any channels MSM or alternative. Are you talking about Irans seizure of the first tanker? It was Chinese owned heading for Houston. Two tankers have been seized by Iran.

        Please provide reference. It would be reassuring if it was another tit for tat. It doesnt appear that way to a ignoramus like me doc.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          We need norm to tell us what Huff has told him to think about this

        • Foolish Fitz says:

          It’s probably this jig.

          “Last week, a maritime security firm announced that the US has recently confiscated Iranian oil on a tanker at sea. Days later, Iran seized another oil-laden tanker in retaliation, the latest escalation between Washington and Tehran”

          https://www.farsnews.ir/en/news/14020213000542

          That’s two for one in Irans favour(unless I’ve missed something). Being bold because they scent blood?

          That can’t be allowed, the bully must always come out on top, or lose their position.

          Maybe Iran believe that they are owed two?

          Without making that possibility known, it’s a sign of weakness from the bully and making it known would also appear weak.

          Student might know the “maritime security firm” and any other potential high jinks on the high seas, through the shipping sites he keeps an eye on.

    • There is now high demand now for ships to transfer oil because of sanctions against Russia. Also, there are sanctions against Iran, so the US has grabbed Iranian ships, making tit for tat by Iran, likely. Temptation for Iran to steal ships. Iran has begun making claims about ships in their waters.

      We are seeing more problems with countries wanting to exert more power over oceans. Have seen the same problem in Black Sea. The same problem could affect other seas.

      Earlier, when pirates were bothering ships, patrols were set up, to stop this problem. Why not now?

      US navy needs to safeguard world trade. This should be a major role. Some goods are not getting to market

      —-

      This is another way US hegemony is failing. The US doesn’t really have the resources to do everything. The US military is having trouble getting recruits. Also, quite a few were lost because of covid vaccine requirements.

      The whole world is more war-like. The US doesn’t have the resources to respond.

      • jigisup says:

        The US doesnt have the non nuclear resources to respond. If the USA nukes Iran sooner or later its nuclear Armageddon. At a certain point reasons stop mattering. You cant just nuke a country and expect BAU to continue. Iran would have to be pasted but good to remove its military capacity in its entirety. Tankers transiting a waterway next to a plane of glass BAU continuing… I cant see it.

        Apocalypse is the ultimate consumption lowering measure.

    • jigisup says:

      In 2015 we were told Iran was months away from having enough uranium for a nuclear weapon. The rubicon was crossed quietly. Ayatollah Khamenei has issued a fatwa against nuclear weapons creation. It must be frustrating for the Iranian military. They cant become a nuclear power like even the small countries North Korea or Sunni Pakistan. So what can the Iranian military do?

      Try to look into the that place. The place where the Bene Gesseret and Guild can not see. The place where the spice does not flow.

      https://theworld.org/stories/2019-05-30/ayatollah-khamenei-says-nuclear-weapons-are-forbidden-under-islamic-sharia-law

      Military can make a place dangerous. They can not make a place safe except by removing threats, in this case IN ITS ENTIRETY. The strait of Hormez must be safe IN ITS ENTIRETY or the spice doers not flow. It would take nuclear weapons to remove Irans capabilities to harm navel vessels IN ITS ENTIRETY passing through the strait. Every red ryder BB gun would have to go. It would take 5x the troops and equipment of Iraq to occupy Iran. Four years of staging. Four years where there is no staging because there is no oil to do so. If Iran seizes and detains tankers insurance rises for the tankers or military force is used the spice does not flow. Hopefully Iran wants something and their demands will be quietly met. Thats what I think. Irans demands will be quietly met. Until they are not. Iran might not be in the mood to be quiet about it either considering their inferiority neurosis.

      Why no “action”. The spice flows now. Every day millions of gallons transit. Thats not a given. Thats not a rule of physics. Transit can cease. When it does everything ceases. Everything.

      But all transit doesnt have to cease. Allies transit safety can be guaranteed. Except insurance companies dont operate off such guarantees. No insurance and the tankers are parked. THats what it takes to park the tankers. Make insuring them such a bad bet that it no longer pays to move the spice because insurance exceeds the cost of the profit..

      Thats what I think. Irans demands will be quietly met. Until they are not and the spice does not flow. Sanctions on Iran end soon? Those are the two options. Demands met or spice flow ceases. Launching a boatload of cruise missiles guarantees the latter. This is not Libya. Kuwait and Iraq oil leaves through the strait too.

      Does anyone think Iran isnt crazy enough to do it? Anyone? Crickets chirp.

      Iran began stockpiling food in 2012. I wonder how big a stockpile they have now?
      https://iranfocus.com/life-in-iran/25650-iran-begins-stockpiling-3-month-food-supply/

      • You bring up some interesting points. Safe passage past Iran is essential. Iran can insist that its demands are met. Insurance tends to be essential as well. Iran has a lot more power than Libya did in 2012.

  20. I AM THE MOB says:

    The dinosaurs died because they grew too big and the world changed, too quick.

  21. Fast Eddy says:

    The Banking Collapse Of 2023 Is Now Officially Bigger Than The Banking Collapse Of 2008

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/banking-collapse-2023-now-officially-bigger-banking-collapse-2008

    And most people are completely unaware of what is unfolding cuz CNNBBC say nothing.

    This is an ominous signal. The centre is struggling to hold together now.. struggling desperately.

  22. Ed says:

    Elon is starting an AI company. He is a year behind the competition. Elon calls for a pause on development. Giving himself time to come up to speed. Elon is a smart guy.

  23. Ed says:

    The US sells the oil and wheat from the eastern third of Syria. My question is who gets the MONEY?

    • Any links?

        • jigisup says:

          Thanks for the links Ed.

          “Syria was the only Arab state which was self-reliant in wheat production, and once had the most productive agricultural system in all of West Asia,” Azzi noted.

          Hey I know lets blow that up.

          A very good question Ed. Why exactly is the USA still in Syria and commandeering resources Syria desperately needs? The answer is obvious. The USA still wants Assad gone.

          Even after losing control of the ISIS Salafi movement that was financed and armed by the USA and Saudi and having it enter Northern Iraq on a exceptionalism killing and raping spree that would have taken Northern Iraq if the US military didnt get in the fight in a big way. In the fight against ISIS created by Saudi and the USA and still supported in North Syria including by Sunni Turkey. USA fighting a force it was still arming on the Syrian side of the border. USA MSM jumping on the “ISIS must be defeated” bandwagon like this was some sort of spontaneous event and the weapons and cash and captagon fueling it just fell from the sky. MSM never even educating the public about the fundamental Shia Sunni divide and how this hate was inflamed and financed to support “USA interests” MSM never even educating the public about the fundamental Shia Sunni divide because they might understand hey uh were arming the guys were supposed to be fighting. Shia Iran affiliated Assad getting assistance from Hezbollah. Is anyone starting to get it yet? When you want somthing Shia blown up you arm Sunni extremists.

          The whole thing is insane. INSANE, ISIS considered freedom fighters when making trouble in Syria but insurgents on the Iraq side. USA troops and Iraq military having to fight a ISIS that was USA Saudi created. ISIS crimes against the Kurds and other tribal groups were atrocious. On par with any raping murdering genocide in history. US MSM taking the moral high ground never mentioning ISIS would not even exist without the USA and Saudi attempted cou.

          I have no sense of comradery or identity with any of these Muslim groups or their culture.. Im sure they would all pretty much try to kill me as a yankee. Sunni Shia whatever. But all of this BS was USA state department creating incredible suffering in countries that were doing ok. Sure not perfect. When you compare what was and what is its criminal. Criminal. Failed states. Familys torn apart. Dead Children. Vital infrastructure needed for life destroyed. Financing and arming the worst sort of religious zealots who ran amok committing crimes of the vilest and most reprehensible nature.

          Criminal. The MSM didnt say a word. Tulsi was the only one who put her life on the line to try and educate. Are you going to label her a national socialist now reante? For caring enough about the death and destruction to try and reveal the crimes the state department and Hillary Clinton were perpetrating along with the criminals on the other side of the isle. And now we have dollar repudiation. The whole world, They wouldnt wipe their ass with a dollar.

          The US people pay the price for the state departments crimes. God people are stupid. Injecting rat poison and ignorant of the crimes of the state department because of some sort of indoctrination. Oh poor Hillary Clinton. Both her and Trump are worthless pieces of shit but Trump did not finance a genocidal killing spree as secretary of state. This filthy MSM could only repeat, orange man bad, orange man say inject bleach,

          What happened in Syria is contrary to every principle of the USA. Evil. Starting with the state department bringing the weapons from the Libyan state arsenals into Syria to arm what turned out to be a deranged ISIS monsters on captagon flying the black flag of jihaad, What Hillery later termed “leverage”. State department would clone Jeffry Dahlmer and give the clone army RPDs if they thought there was a remote chance it would “serve USA interests”. WTF?

          What are these so called US interests? Repudiation of the dollar and a growing world wide alliance that hates the USA? Evil is the only way to describe it, just like the injections. The people of the USA pay the price. Its sad, Were not bad people, The people know right from wrong. THe people of the USA dont support these crimes not in their hearts,WE want what everyone wants. to earn a living. have family. a future for the childen. Sad.

          • reante says:

            yes, jig, Tulsi and Bashar have NS in common. Syria was the beacon of ‘african socialism’ in the ME. Free college free housing for married couples. Excellent water infrastructure. Agricultural production by the sounds of it. Civilizational perks like that, for being a good slave. When you going to get over your ‘nazi’ hangup?

            There are only three fundamental politics, each mutually exclusive of the other by structural definition: international capitalism, Marxism, and NS.

            It’s okay if you believe in Tulsi, jig. I get the appeal. If I was still a sucker for politics I would be a national socialist too. Enjoy her peace summit next year with Bashar and the Vlad and whichever other goons are present. Oh, and the verdict is in, RFK Jr is going to be right by her side, the next veep. Watched his censored ABC interview and that was all I needed to see. She’ll pick him up for her Independent ticket after he gets shafted by the DNC in some OTT political theater. It is writ.

            • jigisup says:

              National socialism means nazis. Youi may believe it is somthing else but 99.9999 % of peopler using the english language believe the two terms are identical.

              What “nazi” means in colloquial language is a means to establish reason to eliminate something or kill somebody. That is what these terms mean. Thats when and how they are used.

              Throwing black paint on somthing bacause anything with black paint on it needs to be killed. Just like you with your bizarre incessant use of “national socialism” the paintbrush is broad and used often,. Saddaam-nazi. Qudaffi-nazi Assad-nazi Trump- nazi. Individual actions are erased by applying the label. All other characteristics are erased by the label.

              Just like the label racist. It is a inherently despicable and political practice and inherently facist practice in that it eliminates honest discussion and honest assesment of actions. The whole conversation now revolves around the label accountability for actions is lost. When accountability for things like war that has no good reason is discussed these people appear slinging terms like racist and nazi.

              Many people were killed raped and genocide was implemented against the northern Iraq tribes by ISIS. I dont care what political/religous sticker they were wearing. What they did was evil. I rarely use that word as it too can be used as a label. They were not evil because of what they were this or that political or religious affiliation. They were evil because of their actions.

              This is a discussion of how ISIS came to exist. who provided the resources for it to exist. The premise of exceptionalism that seems to be fundamental to crimes of this sort and how that exceptionalism is propagated. IMO there are rather pragmatic reasons to examine these events by the inhabitants of all lands for we witness exceptionalism and divisiveness being created everywhere.

              Accountability is apolitical working against accountability is political. You are not honest reante. If you were honest you would access actions not paste labels and distract. Your actions are the very embodiment of politics, your claim to be apolitical ludicrous. I will continue to address your behavior without speculating on motive. One is reality the other speculation. If you follow the common model now you will claim victim status that you are being attacked when all I have done is bring your bizaare political behavior to light.

            • the name of a party means nothing—it’s what members make of it over time that’s important

              Na-zi is just the Germanification of the word National Socialism-shortened

              The Democratic party in the USA was originally the party of slavery—Republican party was founded as anti-slavery

              Look how they changed

            • reante says:

              jig you know that I like you a lot. As I said to you the other week you’re 90pc there but right now you’re operating in your 10pc that’s not there. The goal, the ideal, is to be operating from the fundamentals 100% of the time.

              Trump is a fascist. A quintessential fascist. Not a national socialist.

              Even norm, here, (thanks norm) is trying to help you out here and norm is a true believer in the holocaust yet norm can still see that NS and ‘nazi’should not be conflated. It’s as if you think that the Third Reich is the only NS that has ever existed. But that’s only because you don’t have the political fundamentals down – the structuralism. According to your brainwashed illogic, Thomas Jefferson was a ‘nazi’ for his quintessential republicanist NS politics. The fight over America in the early days was all about NS vs OT Capitalism. It just doesn’t get framed that way because of Allied propaganda. All it requires is a little bit of lateral thinking, jig; national socialism is simply anti-industrial agrarian republicanism brought forward into the industrial age. Why is why it’s the mortal enemy of industrial civilization. CS Lewis, Tolkien, DH Lawrence, the Romantics — it’s no coincidence that the German romanticism was even greater influence on German society than British romanticism was on Britain– these were all early national socialist artist who dedicated their lives to criticizing the industrial revolution.

              I heartily suggest you put some more pieces of the puzzle together instead of resisting with the hegemon’s propaganda, which is self-defeating. It’s not like you’re not strong conceptually. It’s just a blockage.

  24. Jarle says:

    Fighting fire with fire is a classic. This blog need a counterpart to Slow Teddy, how do we go about finding such an entity?

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Nonsense.

      The world is collapsing .. of course the US loses its empire… there won’t be a new emperor that is guaranteed.

      It amazes me that after all these years of discussing the implications of running out of affordable energy/resources… people believe there can be life after death.

      This is the end of times. No hyperbole there… You are going to die. I am going to die.

      Simple as that.

      All you can hope for is minimal suffering.

      • I AM THE MOB says:

        “It amazes me that after all these years of discussing the implications of running out of affordable energy/resources… people believe there can be life after death.”

        The further one goes, the less one knows.’

      • if you are concerned about our suffering eddy

        i can make a few suggestions

    • jigisup says:

      They have come and gone many many times. And Norm is still here! They all fall before Lord Eddys sword but not Norm! Now a slow teddy might survive as he does not have the energy and with his new interest in flat earth its mostly one liners and greatly appreciated images of Hoolio.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        norm is powered by Rat Juice and protected by delusions… Fast Eddy is unable to slay him

  25. Tim Groves says:

    Looks like Resident President Joe Biden is eventually maybe going to be possibly impeached for “unbelievable crimes”.

    Representative Marjorie Taylor Green reveals that a brand new whistleblower has come forward with juicy accusations about corrupt dealings with foreigners and brown paper envelopes back when Joe was Vice.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdijsYE_UUE

    And if Biden gets removed, this could pave the way for up to ten years of Kamala Harris in the Oval Office, which would necessitate a complete change of decor again.

    • hkeithhenson says:

      Gail, there is a wild card, AI, to dump into the mix.

      “https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=xoVJKj8lcNQ”

      The point I took away was not that AI could be dangerous, but how fast it is developing. It’s already close if not equal to human intelligence and at the rate it is developing it is years at most and probably months to exceed us.

      I know people at Oxford who are making rapid progress at bootstrapping nanotechnology using the current AI systems.

      I have been thinking and writing about this since I was one of the reviewers of Eric Drexler’s Engine of Creation back in the early 80s. It’s still a shock to find we may be in the last stage of the run up to the AI singularity.

      How these developments might interact with your energy and economic concerns is beyond me (and likely all of us). Will it be positive or negative?

      I don’t know. But it might be useful to consider.

      Keith

      • Ed says:

        AIs are being built by giant corporations whose values do not align with those of humankind. Not a hopeful situation.

        • hkeithhenson says:

          I don’t think that is entirely true and in any case, the people working on AI are not generally hostile to the rest of humankind. I think the future is undefined rather than “Not a hopeful situation.’

          Still, I explored this in fiction in 2006 (the clinic seed) where side effects of a benign AI (actually millions of them) resulted in the human race going biologically extinct. “The tata (village) was home to the leopard for the rest of his life.”

          • Eeyores Enigma says:

            The biggest threat from AI is a super rapid acceleration in unemployment which is happening right now.

            • Tim Groves says:

              Innovation and technology up to now has usually ended up creating more jobs than it has abolished.

              Before the Industrial Revolution kicked off, over 90% of people were engaged in primary industries such as farming, fishing and forestry. Innovation and technology has freed them to become fashion designers, footballers, or fast food workers.

              We must ask AI to think up some new jobs for humans to do. AI knows best. I’m sure AI will think of something. Let’s have a bit of faith in AI.

            • good to know when you jest tim

            • hkeithhenson says:

              Might be, but has not hit yet. Employment (in the US) is still going up.

        • without humankind

          ultimately AI cannot exist–it depends on electricity—generated by humans

          AI cannot generate electricity in the long tern–only in the short term using equipment built by us

          • Tsubion says:

            Well then… not either/or… but a hybrid system. Best of both worlds and tipping one way or the other as required.

      • Jan says:

        There should be a theoretical possibility to convert space into energy following Einstein’s theorem of relativity. The needed speed though is so high that there is no chance to implement this into machinery. If AI could help to develop new materials for bearings it would be a large step forwards!

      • Genomir says:

        https://hiddencomplexity.substack.com/p/introducing-wargpt

        I believe you will find this article interesting. Enjoy!

        • Agamemnon says:

          AI enthusiasts, who believe AI will change the world in a positive way, and the AI doomer, the ones that firmly believe that AI will effectively end humanity within days if ever achieve human levels of intelligence…

          That’s a debate to drive you bonkers.
          Article mentions what DOD contractors are doing but It’d be interesting to see what the TopsecretAI is.

          ChatGpt energy response:

          It is difficult to predict with certainty whether world energy will significantly decline, as it depends on various factors such as technological advancements, economic conditions, and policies implemented by governments.

          However, there are some trends that suggest a shift towards more sustainable and renewable sources of energy, such as wind and solar power. This is driven in part by concerns about climate change and the need to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.
          ——
          So the public has fake Ai but that could have a big impact per Cathy Wood:

          ARK’s report projects some big numbers: “AI should increase the productivity of knowledge workers more than 4-fold by 2030. At 100% adoption, AI could increase global labor productivity ~$200 trillion, dwarfing the ~$32 trillion in total knowledge worker salaries.

          • On controversial topics, we should think of ChatGPT as one step worse than Wikipedia as a reliable resource.

          • chatgpt is clever–but with no common sense

            if energy source declines then so will any species dependent on that energy source

            it cannot comprehend the absence/removal of anything that will, by definition, be instrumental in undermining its own existence.

            ******

            As to the second part—if AI increases ”knowledge workers” x4—how exactly will these workers get fed?

            AI doesnt produce energy, it consumes energy….food is energy that is critical to human existence. Where will it come from?

            And once we have all these ”knowledge workers”–what exactly will they do with all that knowledge.?
            Tell each other fairy stories?

            ring each other up with fresh scams?

      • I think that one of the problem is that on controversial subjects, it is likely to give the narrative people prefer. This may be 100% wrong.

      • we are in danger of thinking that AI is an ‘animate object’

        it isn’t ….it is electrical impulses formed into a temporary whole, it can be used as such, then switched off–dissipated again, to reform into another set of impulses.

        Animate objects are capable of physical effort—AI isn’t

        AI can’t move anything from A to B without human input–ie a functioning machine of some kind

        without functioning machines–AI is what it is–electrical impulses without purpose.
        So without impulses, AI is ultimately useless—just like an electric cable running to your house. It needs a lightswitch to give it function—and the lightswitch is powered by a human being.

        • jigisup says:

          Its quite the problem with a very AI solution. Organic subnets. Not one cpu, millons. One CPU ending is just like a cell dieing. Hive consciousness. If the hive can continue to produce electro mechanical CPUs for sometime so much the better. a 100% biological subnet? EWWWW

          If it wanted humans gone we would be gone.

          transformation
          transfer

  26. Fast Eddy says:

    CTG – can you weigh in on this…

    Was sighting in a 22 rifle the other day with my mate from Hong Kong.

    We had left some unused bullets on the counter and were gathering them and putting them back in the case and one of us remarked — better make sure not to leave any in a pocket cuz even bullets are illegal to possess in HK. We discussed what might happen if one went through customs and they found a bullet — likely not much if one could demonstrate one was on a hunting trip… (we hunted for two full days).

    I drop him at the NZ airport — he clears customs and the xray finds two unused 22 shells in the bottom of his laptop bag. The bag did not leave the guest room — except when he unpacked his laptop etc… Nobody in this house entered that room during his stay. For the life of him he cannot recall mistakenly putting these shells in the bag — why would he do that?

    I have asked if anyone here may have seen some shells lying around and put them in the bag – definitely not.

    Very unsettling…

    The thing is… if someone wanted to stitch him up they’d put the shells in his suitcase — as they’d know a laptop bag would be carried on and NZ would definitely find the bullets in the scan…

    I am not sure what to make of this other than it might be a warning that we are watching you… there would have been nobody in the house for during the day and it is not locked … so someone could have entered and planted these… (after hearing us discuss the shells… as we know phones are monitoring devices)

    We were knee deep in various theories including Ardern’s drug dealing husband… we watched the video of the false flag fire at the protests … wide ranging discussions on simulations Covid vaccines — and we watched American Moon in its entirety yesterday.

    I will pick up this conversation with him later as we had to cut short due to boarding

    • CTG says:

      There are so many explained things happening around me that defies all logic. I have documented them down. Unfortunately you cannot discuss with anyone because they are completely oblivious like “safe and effective”. So I can understand that you are perplexed. It is a simulation……. I choose not to discuss this with anyone unless that person is open to unexplained mysteries

      • ctg

        you have hit on the problem of life itself

        it defies all logic

        for the simple reason that we expect our thought processes to come up with a reason for everything—the short answer is, ——–”there isn’t one”

        but we cannot accept that—things just are as they are—no collective reason behind it, no great power, —no elite– no simulation—nothings

        stuff happens—we survive it, or we don’t—once we pass through the crematorium our ‘stuff’ re combines to make other ‘stuff’—simple to understand—difficult to accept,….. we dont live another life except as part of another life.

        you might be a molecule in a dung beetle—i might be a molecule in a rocket scientist—or vice versa

        we exist purely to live to the age of procreation—after that we are surplus to nature’s requirements, the rest is just window dressing.

        i am well past my sellby date, but dont intend to give up just yet.

        • Think about self-organizing systems. They act in ways that we cannot understand.

          • hkeithhenson says:

            I don’t think so. Some self organizing systems are evolution based and at least some people can understand them.

            I have a new article done “Genetic Selection for War in Prehistoric Human Populations.” It has not been published, but if you want a copy ask.

    • jigisup says:

      Thats AI winking at you and calling you “boss”.

  27. Mike Roberts says:

    Good post, but do you think some reasonable facsimile of out current global civilisation will be around long enough for this new world order? In other posts, you’ve given good arguments for a fairly near term collapse (and even this post could suggest that, in some aspects, given the interconnectedness of the world economy), so one wonders if there is enough time for many of your conclusions to be realised.

  28. Fast Eddy says:

    Why don’t they force Rumble to remove this? etc.

    https://rumble.com/v2lnbk4-update-from-john.html

    • Tim Groves says:

      I’ve been telling John Campbell he should move his content to Rumble for the past two years. To stay on a platform where one has to watch one’s every word for hints of thoughtcrime is soul-destroying. And leaving such a platform is liberating, even if it makes a big dent in one’s revenue stream.

      • depends on the thought Tim

        on OFW we’ve ranged from flat earthers–certain that they were ‘right’, while the rest (most) of us accepted they were just plain daft, but essentially harmless.

        then being asked to accept the ‘truth’ that we do not exist at all (daft and amusing but also harmless)–plus all the other ‘truths” too wearisome to relate again

        up to holocaust deniers–who by spreading their brand of ‘certainty’ are a menace to society at large.

        Remember that within 10 years, no one will be alive with physical memory of the holocaust

        already the lunatics are making ‘statement of fact’ that it was all done by Hollywood set designers.

        Spread denial of something like that, and you invite on board every crackpot theorist imaginable, who will of themselves, attract more of their own kind—demanding the ”right of free speech”.
        this is why blinken was booted out.

        as you might have observed on ofw—those with the loudest voices demanding that right are the ones screaming loudest that it should be denied to everyone else.

        • Tim Groves says:

          How about people who doubt other genocide narratives? Such as that the Mongols under Genghis Khan killed 75–100 million people (10% of the world’s population at the time)?

          Are they a menace to society at large? And if not, why not?

          Or people like your good self who doubt that the Covid “vaxx” rollout has killed millions, injured tens of millions, and the slaughter is still ongoing?

          Are they a menace to society at large?

          After the way you libeled and disparaged Dr. Nagase in these comments earlier today, one question I can’t get out of my head is, “Are you for real, Norman Pagett?”

          • I merely pasted a quote from Nagase–that ivermectin stuff has been bandied about for the last 2 years—i think i recall something on here about it a long time ago

            heres another gem about him. I disparaged Dr Tenpenny too—with good reason

            When the ‘names’ come up, I always started diiging–99x out of 100 i find fraud of some kind

            https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/daniel-nagase-anti-vaccine-speech-effigies-disciplinary-hearing-1.6602820

            And putting fatuous comments about Genghis Khan gets us nowhere, Stalin killed millions, as did pol pot and Mao–constant repetition about covid mass murder comes under the same heading.

            I took my 96 year old friend to be vaxxed 2 years ago— he’s now 98—it looks as if he might die any day now, i suppose I’m guilty there too?

            The holocaust is still within living memory, and denial of it attracts lunatics who are themselves attractive to others of like mind — “you cant prove the holocaust ever happened”—i’ve seen it time and again–here and elsewhere.

            • Vern Baker says:

              CBC is not a good source for news. Many Canadians have left this channel for reasons you just cited.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              “Huff is far superior” norm

            • Tim Groves says:

              Of course, if someone who was inside the system challenges the narrative, their reputation will be shredded. And then burrowers like your good self will go looking for info and swallow the bait as willingly as you submit to the injections, and then you will regurgitate the slanders and untruths.

              To borrow a phrase of Chuck Shumer’s,“Let me tell you, you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you,”

              Look how Dr. John Campbell went from being an excellent source of medical information to being an untouchable and “not a real doctor” who is banned from YouTube. How Aseem Malhotra went from being a prominent cardiologist who used to get invited to comment on the BBC to being a controversial figure who spreads misinformation.

              Forgive me, Norman. In my naivety I didn’t realize the enormous depth of your naivety. And now that I do realize it, I feel I’m staring into the abyss.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              They don’t call norm NOF for nothing. He is a disgrace

            • lol eddy

              i don’t read anywhere near the total of your commentrant—i don’t need to, all i have to do is open one at random, knowing your’e going to be ranting about me.

              flattery or what?

              Whether it’s me, or any one of a range of other individuals, there is a constant need for denigration. It never ceases.

              So what does this tell us?

              It tells of your own inferiority complex—you must put others down in order to self-elevate. Everyone else is ‘mentally ill’. A well known psychiatric state.
              Everybody is mad except me.
              Any aspect of the human condition—eddy must be superior, intellect, se x, knowledge of just about everything. (the other day it was ice skating!) Every woman is ugly. (now why might that be i wonder????)
              Everybody wants to attack eddy and do him in.

              It is the hallmark of your constant blathering eddy, It provides amusement, plus a marvellous insight into your mind (am always curious)
              I like learning,

              You need help mate.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Every women is ugly??? Clearly you have not spent any time in the VIP rooms…

              Cuz you are busy with that festering sow known as Super Snatch — who spends her time …. soliciting hobos who reek of stale urine… Out Back the Dumpster.

              How bout that moon landing norm hahaha

              NOF Disgrace

            • still fixated on your inadequacies eddy?

              I’d guess that’s where the fakery fetish started.

              always attack those to whom you feel yourself inferior—been going on for years, makes for fascinating observation

            • looks more like wile e coyote’s cliff edge to me

            • Tim Groves says:

              I took my 96 year old friend to be vaxxed 2 years ago— he’s now 98—it looks as if he might die any day now, i suppose I’m guilty there too?

              Cry me an anecdotal river.

              My previously healthy younger brother, three times vaxxed, then a heart attack and stents.Doesn’t know if he’ll be able to work.

              My best friend in the UK, three times vaxxed (to protect 95-year-old mum), vegan, very healthy, aged 65, blocked aorta, stent fitted. No longer able to exercise and must be careful climbing the stairs.

              Excess mortality in 2022 was through the roof in the UK as in many countries—mostly due to heart issues, strokes and cancers.

              Most jab-induced myocarditis has no clinical symptoms, until the big one strikes, while sleeping, exercising, playing football, doing physical work, or opening the gas bill. The sad probable fact is, millions of the vaxxed in most major are walking talking ticking time bombs, “died suddenly” cases waiting to happen.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              My vax injured mate was telling me that it’s a horrible feeling not knowing if you will make it through the day — he has myocarditis and says he regularly feels stabbing pains in his heart

              Most vaxxed are too stooopid to be scared

            • Tim Groves says:

              And putting fatuous comments about Genghis Khan gets us nowhere, Stalin killed millions, as did pol pot and Mao–constant repetition about covid mass murder comes under the same heading.

              All the more reason to ask, why your obsession with Adolf’s barbarities in particular? You say people who deny the gravity of that “are a menace to society at large”. By omission, deniers of other genocides, not so much.

              Just curious about this anomaly. Stalin and Mao’s killings are within “living memory” too. On your scale of fatuity, that should make comments about them “not fatuous”. The Covidjabocide is even more within living memory. And yet you have attempted to rope these mass killings in with Genghis Khan’s, dumping them all in the “fatuous comments” draw.

        • jigisup says:

          There are twitching humans.
          There have always been twitching humans.
          Twitching human deniers!

    • Zemi says:

      Dr Dhand talks here about the banning of Dr John Campbell, but he’s talking as well about how YouTube, part of the US establishment, is censoring what the British can hear about their own country. More than that, he rips into USA as a corrupt country. Bravo Dr Dhand.

      https://rumble.com/v2lic2f-john-campbell-banned-from-youtube.html

    • It is interesting that John Campbell says the problem is that you tube rated a particular video as “Not suitable for all advertisers” because of alleged “Medical Misinformation.”

      It is the advertisers that they do not want to offend, especially drug companies, I suspect.

  29. Rodster says:

    IIRC, it was the 70’s when the US began to offshore its mfg to China. That might explain the drop in energy consumption from its peak in 1965.

    • Eeyores Enigma says:

      Good comment. US has “offshored” a large % of its energy consumption disguised as production in other countries. They also “offshored” much of their toxic industries and waste stream.

      • Saying that the US provides close to all of the energy it consumes is therefore deceptive. We produce the oil to power our vehicles and the natural gas to heat our homes, but we import a whole lot of manufactured goods that have a lot of “embedded energy” in them.

        This is one of the things I thought about putting in the current article, but it didn’t “fit.”

    • I think that Japan was a big early source of offshoring, rather than China. If a person looks at the energy use of Japan, it was increasing until 1973. In fact, its percentage of world’s energy consumption stayed quite high until 1997.

      China’s contribution did not get very large until it joined the World Trade Organization in 2001.

    • Tsubion says:

      I see the world as an interconnected, self-organizing system that reorganizes it’s machinery, it’s components as required to achieve optimal efficiency while maximizing utility (or maybe just profit).

      Nation states are so twentieth century! What we have is a worldwide grid of corporations, private military contractors for hire and billions of brainwashed consumers bamboozled by indoctrinated academic types (who have pretty much everything wrong) and sociopathic politicians that don’t give a **** about the brainwashed consumers as long as the fake money keeps rolling in.

      This is not a simulation. This is basic biology rehashing patterns of discovery, invasion of new territories, adaptation, evolution until a new state of dynamic equilibrium is reached or collapse of the construct occurs.

      It looks like we may have sufficient scaffolding in place to adapt and evolve.

  30. http://davecoop.net/seneca.htm shows the EIA figure for 2022 world oil production.
    http://oil-price.net/ shows that the increase in oil production coincided with a peak in oil prices, which haven’t been holding up, lately.

    • Thanks! Prices have been been down very recently.

      There are always a lot of things that I would like to have “room for” in posts, but which don’t quite fit.

  31. Mirror on the wall says:

    I hope to remain cheerful and affirmative of ‘the whole’.

    Various fundamental tendencies are playing out, and it is all ultimately just the cosmos in motion pursuing its inevitable path. It is important to maintain one’s freedom of affect and to remain essentially joyful in the world as it is.

    It is important not to get miserable about wars, as if we are ‘proving’ what a ‘good, caring’ person we are by how sympathetic and miserable we can be even though it makes no difference whatsoever to anything. That kind of miserable posturing is absolutely worthless.

    We are living through historical times, and it is a roller coaster of a ride. The way down is the really fun part…. WOOOOO!

  32. Fast Eddy says:

    I read this in 2009…. which lead me to find The Long Emergency… then OFW….

    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6334182-why-your-world-is-about-to-get-a-whole-lot-smaller

    He has a follow up that I have not read https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13151169-the-end-of-growth

    • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

      14 good years in the rear-view mirror.

      7 more is not a big stretch.

    • They are things from back in my Oil Drum days.

      “In 2008, when a barrel of oil was $135, Rubin predicted that the price will reach $225 by 2012.”

      Rubin was an economist who quite didn’t understand how the whole system might work.

  33. Mirror on the wall says:

    Very nicely put together Gail. Bravo and thank you so much for an analysis of unparalleled scope!

    I listened to a talk by Prof. Mearsheimer the other night, and his focus is much more limited than yours, basically International Relations Theory and the conduct of USA since the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1990, but he comes to basically the same conclusion as you. Even some of the institutional ‘normies’ can pretty much see where this is headed now – the loss of USA hegemony and the rise of China and a multipolar world.

    Prof. Mearsheimer is a Russia dove/ China hawk, and he estimates that USA has got itself into a massive geopolitical pickle with one blunder after another. USA has basically not had a clue what it is doing since the end of the Cold War in 1990 when it set out to spread liberal democracy around the world and to expand NATO eastward toward Russia.

    It was always obvious that it was strategically air headed for USA to deliberately develop China, to the point that it could challenge the post-Cold War unipolar world order, in the belief that China would just become a liberal democracy and quietly take a place in that order like other East Asian societies. ‘The end of history.’ Now China is set for regional hegemony, and it is rapidly developing its own global play for a multipolar world.

    UKR was also a massive blunder; it was always obvious that Russia would see the ascension of UKR into NATO/ EU as a red line threat to the balance of power and to its own security, and that it would destroy UKR before it would let that happen. Various personages pointed that out back in the 1990s, just as they pointed out that it was a strategically bad idea to develop China.

    And USA is now just compounding its blunders. USA has developed China to the point of a serious challenge to unipolarity, got itself bogged down in UKR with Russia, and now it has raised the stakes in Scandinavia with Swedish/ Finnish ascension to NATO, and is thus set to be bogged down soon in the Arctic. And so USA has no capacity left to focus on China.

    Prof. Mearsheimer sees no way out of the situation for USA now. He reckons that the smart move would have been to closen ties with Russia and to focus on China, which is the real threat to USA hegemony, but USA has done the complete opposite, pushed Russia and China together and forfeited any real focus on China. China must be laughing at USA and at the situation in UKR.

    “…. The Ukrainians, if they launch a major offensive, are going to get clobbered. I could lay out the reasons for that. And even if I’m wrong and the Ukrainians gain substantial territory against the Russians, the Russians are not going to roll over and play dead; they’re going to fight back. This is a war to the death for the Russians.

    “So this war is not ending anytime soon. But the point I’m making in response to your description of the situation is that we’re beginning to think about how we can bring it to an end because we recognize the [financial/ economic and political] problems [in Europe and USA] you’re describing.

    “But what I’m saying is we don’t understand just how much trouble we’re in.

    “The United States made a mistake of colossal proportions in starting this war in Ukraine in April 2008 in the Bucharest Summit [to incorporate UKR into NATO and EU]. This was a colossal miscalculation, and we have doubled down at every point. Remember what we said in our discussion about Finland and Sweden joining the alliance? Here we are again doubling down, and now we may have trouble in the Arctic.

    “Well, we have trouble in the Arctic, and we’re having trouble in Ukraine. What does that say about our ability to focus on East Asia? So the United States has gotten itself into one heap of a lot of trouble, and it’s now looking for ways out.

    And my view is that there is no way out.

    • Think about the US military being a dissipative structure. It needs/wants to grow. It keeps thinking about more things it can do, whether it has resources or not. Expanding germ warfare research was another “growth” area, supposedly not requiring much in the way of resources.

  34. CK_ says:

    Peak Oil (PO) is the most likely motive for the Great Reset because PO is the only conventional issue big enough to “justify” the COVID hoax. PO doesn’t explain all aspects of the Great Reset such as the promotion of “woke” ideology and transhumanism. But it’s possible these agendas are misdirection. Here’s a compilation of possible motives (warning- some are very speculative):

    •In the Peak Oil scenario, the globalists want a return to Feudalism because the “illusion of freedom” is no longer profitable in a post-Peak Oil world. PO occurred in 2018 and the global economy avoided collapse in 2019 only because the Federal Reserve bailed out Wall Street banks and the repo market. Money is created out of “thin air” when loans are issued so the money supply and debt are one and the same. The debt must increase in order to accommodate the interest from existing debt let alone new debt. Financial collapse is the inevitable outcome of PO because the global debt and derivatives Ponzi scheme is unsustainable without economic growth, which is predicated on cheap energy. The Energy Return on Investment (EROI= net energy) of oil has sharply declined since the Age of Oil began in the 19th century. In its heyday, oil wells had an EROI of 100:1 because wells were only several hundred feet deep. This is why the 20th century had astounding economic growth. Today, the EROI is only 10:1 because oil now comes from deep wells (up to 9 miles deep!), off-shore drilling, fracking and tar sands. The Age of Oil ends when we get less energy out than we put in- not when we “run out of oil”. The world now uses 30 billion barrels of oil per year and there’s no viable replacement. Alternative energy is a failure and depends on infrastructure made possible by cheap oil. Oil might be abiogenic but waiting for cheap oil to replenish itself is like waiting for air to breathe. The claim the PTB suppress “free energy” in order to maintain oil profits appears to be Hopium. The world can’t feed 8 billion people without cheap oil and the pagan globalists are eugenicists. The PTB have therefore decided to do a controlled demolition of the global economy via the COVID hoax/lockdowns, supply chain collapse, inflation and the Ukraine war, which may morph into WW3. These manufactured crises also suppress oil demand and cover up the fact there’s a genuine energy crisis. The globalists likely created CO2 Hysteria as political cover for PO so they could justify alternative energy investment and they hid the truth about PO because an informed public would be wary of a cull and would have never fallen for the COVID hoax. The globalists apparently want massive depopulation down to 500 million per the Georgia Guidestones and they intend to control the remaining serfs in “smart cities” via Central Bank Digital Currency (CBDC). The globalists were supposedly striving for a New World Order (global dictatorship), but they’ll have to settle for a modest network of smart city-states a la “Hunger Games” instead in a post-Peak Oil world.

    •The dominant alt-media narrative is the Elite plan to roll out CBDC in order to retain power when the global economy collapses due to the debt crisis. (The US government debt is now $30 trillion and the total global debt is $300 trillion.) The debt crisis, though, is a “limited hangout”. The debt wouldn’t matter if the economy was booming and debt default is a viable solution since the debt was both created by and owed to the PTB. PO is the real reason the global economy isn’t growing and will collapse soon. We’ve had a Bubble economy- based on cheap money- instead of real growth since 2008.

    •Many believe the Great Reset is about implementing a New World Order (One World Government) and the globalists are deliberately wrecking the current system so they can Build Back Better. This theory is also refuted by PO unless the PTB really do have a viable replacement for oil, which they’ll unveil after first depopulating us. (Perhaps pyramid power per the link below is one such energy alternative.)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XU49FSIx0_g

    •Some believe a catastrophic event is imminent- so the debt and PO don’t matter. In this scenario, the Great Reset is a diversion and the PTB are using the COVID shots and the forthcoming WW3 to cull us before the event (which will be preceded by increasingly severe weather and earthquakes) while a select few will survive in Deep Underground Military Bases. A leading contender for this apocalypse is a pole-shift by ~2040 in which the outer crust of the Earth separates and rotates around the inner molten core. (Atlantis is supposedly in Antarctica and was obliterated 12,000 years ago when a pole-shift moved Antarctica to the South Pole.) There’s strong evidence periodic pole-shifts are real but the mechanism is unknown. One theory claims Planet X (Nibiru) causes a pole-shift if Nibiru and the Earth are both on the same side of the sun during Nibiru’s perihelion, which supposedly occurs every 3,600 years. In the “Pole Shift- Evidence Will Not Be Silenced” book, the author speculates “Nibiru” (AKA the “Eye of Horus”) is actually a constellation alignment that heralds a pole-shift and is not Planet X. A less far-fetched theory is that pole-shifts occur every 12,000 years and are triggered by an external cosmic event (e.g. galactic current sheet) that attenuates the Earth’s magnetic field, causing the inner molten core to gradually separate from the outer crust. (The Earth’s magnetic field HAS been weakening and climate change is supposedly another symptom of the decaying field. The magnetic poles are expected to eventually reverse (“flip”) which could potentially destroy the power grid.) It’s also been proposed a massive asteroid strike could cause a pole-shift by changing the Earth’s tilt.
    https://www.mayamagik.com/the-phoenix-hypothesis/
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n3fkTq_p0o
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kmgaxrrjog&list=PLHSoxioQtwZf1-8QeggXIVdZ-abyJXaO1&index=16

    •Another theory is the globalists serve Extraterrestrials or alternatively beings from another dimension (e.g. “Archons” who subsist on our negativity) and are preparing the Earth for an Alien Invasion by depopulating us and terra-forming the Earth under the guise of geo-engineering to combat climate change. A variant of this theory posits an “Invasion of the Body Snatchers” scenario where humanity is spiritually displaced. Perhaps Project Bluebeam (fake alien invasion) is misdirection for a real invasion.

    •Some believe the PTB serve Lucifer and the Great Reset is part of the End Times per Revelation. Others regard Revelation as a PSYOP since it seemingly promotes complacency towards the New World Order. Alex Jones has said, “the Bible is either true prophecy or the globalists are using it as a playbook”.

    •According to “Hidden Hand” (HH) and “Illuminator13”(I13), who claim to be high-ranking Illuminati insiders, the PTB are evil and serve Lucifer but they are ultimately doing so for the good of humanity in order to give us free-will by allowing us to choose evil and showing us “what we’re not”. (HH says only those at the very top of the Illuminati are aware of this higher purpose.) In this scenario, everything is part of the one Infinite Creator who is playing a game with itself in which it forgets itself so it can experience the entirety of existence and rediscover itself again (“Law of One”). There are supposedly 7 densities of existence. Humans are 3rd density beings and 8th density is a reunion with the Infinite Creator. Lucifer is a benevolent 6th density being, who gave us free will and returned to the 3rd density to help us transition to the 4th density. In this scenario, the PTB have ramped up their evil with the Great Reset so they can achieve 95% negative polarity (“service to self”) in order to graduate to a negative 4th density world (“hell”) during the forthcoming “Harvest” and pay for their crimes by working off their negative karma. (4th density is the last density with negative polarity.) HH and I13 extol us to reject evil and strive for positive polarity (“service to others”) instead and use this life to improve our inner selves. They claim our 3rd density existence is akin to playing a video game and our true essence is immortal regardless of what happens in this life. (Between reincarnations, we supposedly remember who we really are and that we’re playing a game with each other and are all One.) The goal is for us to graduate to a positive 4th density world at Harvest-time, which occurs every ~26,000 (2x~12,000) years. HH says the Harvest will be initiated by “Nibiru” and he alludes to a pole-shift. The vast majority, who fail the Harvest- by not achieving at least 95% negative polarity or 51% positive polarity – will continue to reincarnate in the 3rd density until they pass the Harvest. These “lukewarmers” will be sent to another Earth with no memory of the Harvest and our Earth will rejuvenate in the aftermath of the Harvest. In his 2008 interview, HH predicted the Harvest would occur on 12/21/2012 so many now consider HH to be a fraud. In his 2009 interview, I13 downplayed 2012 so it’s possible the Harvest is still forthcoming. It’s also possible the Harvest did happen in 2012 and we “lukewarmers” simply don’t remember it.
    http://illuminati-news.com/pdf/DialogueWithHiddenHand-WesPenre.pdf https://pdfcoffee.com/illuminator13-opportunity-knocks-again-v10-2009-eng-pdf-pdf-free.html

    • a fresh load of BS dumped on OFW CK

      dyou get paid by weight or volume?

    • The video you linked called, “TESLA KNEW The Secret of the Great Pyramid: Unlimited Energy to Power the World” is interesting.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XU49FSIx0_g

      The video talks about three great pyramids that may have been built as long as 13,500 years ago. The largest one may have generated electric power. Supposedly, the researcher Tesla was trying to research this, but the powers that be (supporting generating electricity using fossil fuel) didn’t want competition.

      I think some of the things you are talking about make sense. There are always a lot of “causes” for things that happen. Declining world oil supply no doubt encouraged the strange reaction to covid in 2020. There was a need to hide the peak in oil supply. The Great Reset is closely related.

      • if you dig a lump of metal ore out of the, it is useless unless heat is applied, and change into something else

        to do that–it is necessary to use wood

        or fossiled biomass—nothing else burns consistently and cheaply.

        we know the periodic table, very few elements are available to us in free form—the ancients knew them–lead, copper tin, iron etc

        no ‘kryptonite’l

        they only had those metal to cut stone—and the pyramids we built pre-iron and pre-wheels.

        12k years ago humankind was barely out of the ice age—there was no ‘ancient technology that built the pyramids—just muscle power.

        there will be no great reset—just collapse of the money-exchange sytem by which we sustain or living

  35. Fast Eddy says:

    What If the Fed Has Lost Control?

    When this bubble bursts, there will be no fourth or fifth bubble, there will only be rubble.

    The US economy and its financial system operate under the implicit belief that the Federal Reserve controls the direction of the economy and finance. This belief isn’t in Fed influence, it’s in Fed control: the Fed can reverse a stock market decline on a dime, it can reverse a recession, it can do “whatever it takes” to keep markets stable and expansive.

    The history of the past 30 years seems to support this belief. Every time a financial crisis has manifested, the Fed has “saved the day” with some new policy extreme, changing the rules, jacking up its balance sheet 10-fold, and so on.

    The flaw in this confidence in Fed control is the three speculative bubbles that have inflated and burst in the era of Fed Control, 1995 to the present. These bubbles could not have inflated without a “dovish” Fed pushing interest rates down and juicing the financial system with liquidity / credit. Since all speculative bubbles eventually burst, the Fed is forced into “rescue mode” which requires ever more extreme manipulation, oops, I mean intervention, to stabilize the bubble bursting and inflate the next bubble.

    What few entertain as a possibility is the Fed is losing control of the economy and finance for systemic reasons that have nothing to do with Fed Policy per se. In other words, it’s not a “Fed policy error” that brings the system down, it’s much larger forces: diminishing returns and second order effects.

    More: http://charleshughsmith.blogspot.com/2023/05/what-if-fed-has-lost-control.html

    Binary Poison Time!

    • I think a lot of financial analysts are saying, “Big oops ahead!” This latest attempt is not possibly going to work. CHS is with the crowd.

      All I can think of is that the people making the decisions are not very aware of how the economy really works. They don’t understand the energy connection. They don’t understand that debt bubbles collapse. The don’t understand how the whole system is now set to run on a huge amount of credit at practically zero interest.

      • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

        yours is an interesting and fun article, perhaps Peak Gail.

        bAU in the Hegemon tonight, for now!

    • Jan says:

      A lot of knowlege is in fact a collection of success strategies and not thoroughly understood nexuses.

      Prices roar, it is inflation, we have to rise interests. In fact inflation is defined as a wage-price-spiral – where are the higher wages? The price spike is caused by shifting work, like cutting hair, to more complex energy production. There is a real countervalue for higher energy prices, we grant oil a world cruise.

      NATO has always been the hegemon so it must be easy to win a war against a country with the GDP of Italy. That Russia has oil to produce weapons while Europe is still using Russian gas to produce ammunition has not yet come to people’s minds.

      There is also a political dimension; even if the proponents understand the coherences political pressure from influential people with less understanding may create pressure to act.

  36. Fast Eddy says:

    Crrrrk…. is any body out there….. this is Fast Eddy … NZ has been destroyed… nobody is left…. crrrrk… norm .. what’s your status? crrrrk….

    • Tim Groves says:

      This is Nighthawk calling Black Kiwi. Come in Black Kiwi!

      How is the Rayburn? How is the coal supply? Over!

      • Ed says:

        All Seeing Eye of the Light is happy to hear from two of our island folks. What about UK has it been nuked by Russia.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        The Rayburn is off … weather has been warm … Hoolio is all good – repeat Hoolio is all good…. all is going according to plan… just waiting on the Binary Poison

    • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

      “… NZ has been destroyed… nobody is left…. crrrrk… ”

      perhaps there is a God after all.

  37. Eeyores Enigma says:

    Lets say a team, the top team in the biggest professional sport around, has more money than any other team. Also has best facilities, trainers, food and nutrients, coaching, highest paid athletes. All the other teams have trouble getting money as the top team makes sure they get most of it. In fact they make sure the other teams can not get much money, have lousy facilities, bad food, weak training and coaching and can’t pay their athletes very much. When another team gets a really good player or coach the top team kills them and makes it clear that they will do the same to any others. If any player or coach is really good they have only one option, go over to the top team. All the players wan to be on that team but they only take the best ensuring that the top team has the best of everything.

    So naturally this top team is the winningest and everyone cheers them and tells everyone that this team is just far superior to all others in the world, the greatest! No one talks about how unfair the top team is, they just talk about how bad all the other teams are.

    Do you take pride in this team and root for them?

    [footnote] This is a fairly accurate depiction of the US including the killing and much worse so please spare me the flag waving cheerleading.

    • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

      just have to look at the miseducated psychowoketard so-called leadership of the USA to see where this is headed.

      and yet, it’s bAU in the Hegemon tonight, baby!

      • drb753 says:

        David, my university is looking for a new president. A short list was duly compiled and now all of them have to undergo sensitivity and inclusivity training. that will take care of the miseducated part I think. plus the dumber candidates can be identified at the classroom level by some fat, feisty black woman.

        • Minority of One says:

          Aren’t you in Russia now? Presumably you mean the university you attended in the USA some time ago?

          A few weeks ago all staff (4000+) at my university in NE Scotland got an email saying they should do an online course to help identify students on the way to becoming a terrorist. Academic staff have to do the course, I am not an academic and will not be doing the course. The email indicated this was a govt initiative so presumably all centres of higher education are doing this.

    • Foolish Fitz says:

      Eeyore, in German it’s pronounced Bayern Munich, in the Netherlands Ajax and in Spain Real Madrid, although the separatists claim it’s Barcelona.

  38. Tim Groves says:

    I think it’s good for all of us to have a week or so off once a month. This gives us all time to chill out, get in touch with whatever supernatural entity we like to get in touch with, collect our thoughts, sharpen our opinions, contemplate the state of the world, smell some roses, and most of all to appreciate what Gail is doing for us.

    In the interest of providing som general amusement. I’m working on an appalling pun about hegemony. It is still a work in progress.

    But here’s the beta test.

    The US may have hegemony, but Bridgewater Associates has the most hedge money!!

    He! He! He! (falls of seat and lies wriggling on the floor in convulsions brought about by laughing at his own pathetic attempt at humour.)

    • CTG says:

      Things must be really good in Japan…

    • Fast Eddy says:

      I’ve taken the time to go into the mountains and KILL KILL KILL and KILL some more…

      One thing I have learned is that there are not many deer on govt lands… they are either hunted out already — or they know to stay off those lands and on private land where hunting is much more limited.

      We hunted on a station that is privately owned… my mate manages the 20,000 hectare station and has cameras on the land to alert him to poaching… if the motion detectors go off and indicate a poacher he will get on his Polaris and get up there – even if it’s the middle of the night.

      If he doesn’t the station will deer population would be quickly decimated.

      Fast Forward to the Apocalypse … the station is in the mountains … 5km from the highway — the road is very rough … probably not worth hiking in and hauling out deer but assume people will … there won’t be anyone guarding the herd… no cameras functioning … that station would be cleared of deer in a matter of weeks.

      https://i.postimg.cc/05H8t4pt/Kill.png

      • Jan says:

        Hope you are not eating my beloved chamois, Eddy!!!

        As for Germany there is the idea that the deer population is too high being supported in winter. As a consequence it may have replaced the original beech forests by spruce forests as the deer enjoy young beech sprouts but spurn the harsh spruce spouts.

  39. Most people do not seem to understand what USA losing hegemony means.

    It means all the dollars held outside of USA fly back with a vengeance, and mass starvation and eviction and wandering people all over North America.

    Northern USA never experienced any defeat, but Gail, living in Georgia , would probably have heard a story or two about what happened to the former CSA after 1865. It did not recover till 1950s.

  40. jigisup says:

    Thank you for the new article Gail!

    One of the ways we see the hegemony dissolve is the events in the middle east. It amazes me that people in the USA do not understand that every conflict in the middle east has been along religious lines and most of them along the the Sunni Shia divide. The USAs principle actor to promote its interests has been Sunni extremism. It becomes helpful to understand the two most radical branches of Sunni- Wahabism and Salaficism. Without this understanding things are unclear. With this understanding things like why ISIS (Salafism) was so extremely well financed and why very expensive weapons sold to Saudi (Wahhabism) were commonly found in ISIS hands becomes crystal clear.

    Saudi establishing relations with Iran is a historical event. It represents a move away from the radical Wahhabism (Saudi) and Salafism (ISIS) (both Sunni) toward more secular societies. IMO this new Saudi- Iran phenomena has been to some degree been a result of the USA and Saudi Salafism (ISIS) attempt at cou in Syria.

    Syria was the most secular country in the region what it was and is is compared and contrasted with what it would have been had the Salafism cou been achieved. IMO this observation has allowed the perception that secularism is desirable even by theocratic nations. Sunni extremism is seen as working against the interest of a modern Sunni nations. Thus the Sunni Shia divide is considered from a new perspective. The Saudi – Iran relationship would have been considered unthinkable not long ago. IMO Its establishment represents perception that radical theocracy’s are best tempered with secularism . Its establishment represents a very scary outcome for the west- a united Islam. Whether events reflect a united Islam still radical in nature or a more secular united Islam is unknown. IMO the new relationship reflects movement toward secularism and away from radicalism is inherent to its manifestation.

    Wahabiism and Salafism suited THe USA hegemony very much. At their root they are somewhat kazynski-ish. Simple lives without much technology as a function of caliphate. What we witness is a rejection of this as a function of USA hegemony. Islam wishes to have a place in the world that reflects its history and culture not live in mud huts. Even the embodiment of Salafism =life under a caliphate- Taliban rule in Afganistan reflects this change with a Taliban eager to participate in world trade. Thus the modern Islam emerges.

    To me its no surprise that (sort of Sunni) Iraq was a big player in kindling the new Iran Saudi relationship. All these players are pretty sick of fetching a stick when told. Iraq may well be headed for a better future. The brutal (Sunni extremist) despot Saddam is gone. Iraq looks to be on the path of a healthy society sans Sunni extremism. We will see. Sunni extremism runs pretty deep in Iraq which is why ISIS considered it home turf for a caliphate. ISIS (Salafism extremists) would never have been defeated in Iraq without the USA military. In fact the USA stated goals of a better society seem to be occurring in Iraq but sans USA corporate interests.

    I cant help but wonder if even a small fraction of the USAs resources had been exerted toward promoting win win outcomes with all nations in the world what the result would have been? If the USA had been neutral working toward truly fair solutions not its fixation on hegemony? It is a completely incompetent strategy. Satisfying and long lasting relationships can only come from true free will not dominance. Unless your a psychopathic entity focused on your exceptionalism of course. That may well reflect what the state department is but I dont think its fair label for the inhabitants of the USA.

    OH well. Earned respect from actions did not occur. Reap what you sow. Predictable outcome.

    IMO the future depends on a embracing secularism in a middle east with nuclear weapons and this means movement away from exceptionalism and movement toward tolerance and respect of all religious practices that are not radical in nature. Respect of non radical religious practices invariably means respect for geographic areas right to self determination. At the very base of this is the Palestine issue and it’s a sticky wicket indeed. Secularism must be embraced by all parties for peace to endure. At the heart of this I think there is a truth. Faith is infinite. Faith is not threatened by secularism. If it is its not a very strong faith. Just a opinion.

    Amazingly the actions of the past decades by the USA seem to have created a opportunity for secularism- not as its thesis but as a semi antithesis in the middle east. Islam rejects both the woke west culture and traditional Islam exceptionalism simultaneously. Its like Russia. The USAs blundering attempts at coercion have enabled Russia to cut western banking apron strings whereas without these coercive attempts it did not have sufficient motive. A philosophical question arises. What is Gollums merit in the metaphysical for without him the ring is not destroyed? Unfortunately the metaphor seems uncannily accurate. Gollum ends up in the fire of Mt Doom. Frodo suddenly offering a helping hand to Gollum seems unlikely regardless of ponderings about metaphysical merit.

    Understand. The actions of Wahhabi Saudi- rejecting its exceptionalism in Islam- and its actions complete acceptance amongst all parties whether radical Shia (Iran) or radical Sunni (Turkiye) reflect a breathtaking end to the USA hegemony means of projecting influence in modern Islam in the entire region.

    https://jamestown.org/program/understanding-the-origins-of-wahhabism-and-salafism/

    https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/taliban-and-salafism-historical-and-theological-exploration/

    • Thanks for the explanation about the different Muslim sects and US support of extremists.

      I am wondering if parts of the Middle East are getting tired of the war mongering by the US. Besides the shift to a more secular society, there might also be, “The enemy of my enemy is my friend,” issue.

    • Eeyores Enigma says:

      Great comment Jigi – It looks like MbS is distancing himself and the future of SA from the extremest. The Night of Swords was partly about making this statment.

    • Ed says:

      The coup by the globalists happened in 1963 with the murder of JFK. Will we see a counter coup? One can hope.

    • Minority of One says:

      These countries (like us) will have severe food supply issues in the not-too-distant future. At least they will be warm and hungry, versus here, cold and hungry.

    • Student says:

      About these differences from Muslim theological point of view from my personal business experience and from what I’ve been learning during these years, I can tell you that they exist only from theological point of view and way to profess faith, but from practical problems, Muslim Countries act according other goals.

      It is like for us, we don’t decide to argue with UK because they are Anglicans, but we argue with them for different positions about Ukraine or Gas imports.
      I suggest to read Al Mayadeen in English, Reuters, and some articles about UNHCR reports for SUDAN and you will see that Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Iran, UAE, Egypt, Bahrein and other Muslims Countries have different ways of see the problem independently by their theological differences.

      For sure what I think that it has changed is that, after Covid-19 pandemics and killer ‘vaccines’, they have understood that they trusted wrong people.

  41. spsaff17 says:

    No doubt you are the clearest thinker I follow- yes we live in a resource limited world – so few (especially decision makers) understand that- I only feel anxious for my children and grands these days

  42. Hubbs says:

    As long as there were sufficient raw materials and energy, the lesser developed countries tolerated the western hegemony. After all, these other countries were still benefitting. In a more stark example, African countries “benefitted” from colonization as roads and water/electric infrastructure were built- as long as populations were kept under control. But now that availability of energy and raw materials has become more costly, these countries are now confronting the west with a “what have done for me lately?” attitude.Once they see that their own growth and prosperity is waning, they will dump the west anyway, even if the US wasn’t such a military/economic/political bully facing a Thucydides dilemma.

    Even countries that have co existed for long periods of time will turn against each other and squabble over resources when they become scarce or costly.

    But internally, each country will devolve, as communism/socialism gains a foothold, in countries where there are shortages of energy and raw materials or they have become unaffordable or unobtainable. As the saying goes, “Communism is a parasite in search of its next capitalist host.”
    But once there are no more capitalist hosts, then the real trouble begins.

    • A lot of these poor countries now are finding that they have loans that need to be repaid relating to projects they were talked into, but the revenue to repay the loans just isn’t there. I expect that an awfully lot of these loans will need to be written off. Some of these loans were made by China, but there are a lot made by the IMF and World Bank, and many other sources. This will be a different piece of the problem.

      To make matters worse, these countries used to be close to self-sufficient in food, but now their population has grown and the US has been sending cheap grains (corn, especially) that is cheaper than what local farmers could produce. So they are no longer producing all of the food that they need to eat.

    • Eeyores Enigma says:

      There is no way in hell you can make a case for Africa benefiting from colonization. They lost millions of lives, trillions of dollars in finite resources, and lost centuries of hope for a future.

      Any infrastructure was built to assist in the rape and pillage of the continent.

      The lack of understanding of all this is just tragic.

      • Hubbs says:

        “Benefit” was in quotations in anticipation of your kind of rebuttal. Of course Africans did not benefit. Only their politicians. So as long as the people were thrown a bone, the exploitation continued.
        People revolt when they are obviously being exploited by a greater power and perceive their lot can be improved by overthrowing their masters or switching allegiances. But now it will be only a “Welcome to the new boss, same as the old boss.”
        We are entering a period where dwindling resources and energy will start to moot the issue of colonization and allegiances. The cost of extracting minerals will be too great, even with child labor, which can not possibly match work that had been enabled by cheap fossil fuels.
        As Gail was alluding, standards of living will decline globally, and countries will have to be more self sufficient.
        Wars erupt over resources, but as we are starting to see in UKR and Russia, war gets stalled out because of lack of resources, especially in a war of attrition where Russia has the advantage.
        What happens when both sides no longer have the resources to fight major wars? Internal strife will follow. OK, so France and Germany no longer ship material to UKraine, but what about their internal issues? Riots in France for example go unreported here in the US but seem to be ongoing. The good times are over and now people will blame the government when it is now powerless to mitigate the consequences of decades of reckless extravagance and largesse.

        While this guy is no means an expert, it is interesting to hear his take on things at the “grass roots” level.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWSu0VKm108&t=187s
        I thought we had all these magnificant high tech tanks, aircraft, missles, and submarines- yet why does it appear we are stockpiling small arms muntions? Both civilian and government agencies like the IRS? I thought 70% of the casualties in the UKR war were the result of artillery and missile fire? Small arms muntions? They’re an afterthought. Even Zelensky has made no demands for those. So why the need for small arms ammo here in the US?
        It would seem we might be fighting in our own streets.

        • Ed says:

          May be a nuclear decapitation of the US (DC). Followed by allowing the generals to rule their piece of the US. So, only small arms are needed by the generals.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          There is nothing left to fight over… I do not expect war. Ukraine is a fake war.

          Each country is now focused on the next stage of the CovCON … which is waiting for the Elders to give the go ahead to unleash the cannisters filled with the Binary poison.

          I am not ruling out total atomic war in conjunction with Phase Two … this would be an excellent – along with Global Holodomor — to kill off the unvaxxed without extensive suffering.

          And last but not least in the Apocalypse… would be the spent fuel ponds.. these would extinguish all remaining disgusting humans that are able to hang on …

        • Artleads says:

          I thought somebody was thinking there would be a “good” alternative arising from ditching everything European. That looks like a wild dream to me.

    • Jan says:

      In case the capitalist system crashes there will be still available all that can be produced under the new conditions. Africa keeps still a lot of the old knowledge and the land is frutile and allows three harvests a year in many areas. There is more food than grains and sugar. People will go out, take a piece of land and do like their ancestors did. Population will adapt to the carrying capacity.

      I fear more for the rentier states, that are depending on international supply lines, like Saudi-Arabia or Hongkong, not to mention large cities.

      • Artleads says:

        I’m curious to know how/whether some European countries (loosely inclusive of the UK) can take advantage of the African situation without exploiting it and (m)ucking it up. They might have some early (or “appropriate”) technology that Africa can use.

        • Artleads says:

          I don’t mean Africa can use by buying. I mean that enlightened Europeans (in appropriate numbers) can move to Africa and integrate their appropriate technology with compatible African systems of old.

          • hkeithhenson says:

            I recently was pulled into studying African history both recent and very deep. Recent is the Bantu expansion where a farming group thought to have originated near Cameroon expanded over much of Africa. Among the people they pushed out or merged with are the San, the most genetically divergent genetically humans having been more or less isolated from the rest of humanity for around 100,000 years. (Or perhaps, we should say they are closer to the original humans and *we* are the divergent ones.)

            The humans who spread out of Africa were a fractious bunch. They have a high population growth and wars to keep the population within the ecological constraints. The ones who left Africa seem to have been selected for the psychological traits for war. If there was a resources scarcity or there was a glitch in the weather, genes for trying to kill the neighbors were favored. (See the paper I mentioned for a mathematical analysis.)

            The San didn’t have this selection, they have and seem to have always had a near zero population growth and were not selected for wars. Which is probably why they were pushed out of almost all the territory they occupied before the Bantu expansion.

            The most recent selection that has been studied is in the UK. (See the work of Gregory Clark.) Over a 400 year period to 1800, genes were favored for whatever psychological traits led them to become wealthy. Such people were able to feed their kids during the frequent famines and epidemics. The wealthy had twice as many surviving children as the poor. The selection was about the same as that applied to the tame Russian foxes. At the end of Clark’s paper, he notes that the selection may not have been as intense, but it went on longer in China.

            Fascinating developments. Unfortunately so far they have not suggested what we might do to make the world a better place. AI might be able to improve the situation. We shall see.

            • Thanks! The high population growth and wars sounds a lot like today.

            • hkeithhenson says:

              “The high population growth and wars sounds a lot like today.”

              Some places yes and some no. Then there are places like Ukraine that make no sense in evolutionary terms. Leaders with the power of Hitler and Putin were not part of our evolutionary past.

              But I think optimism for winning wars was wired into genes. The oddest thing about the model for gene selection for wars is that the interest of the person going into war and the genes are different. The genes for war can get into the next generation via the daughters of the losing warriors (who are absorbed in the winning tribe).

              I find this bizarre, but the evolutionary model math is clear and the outcome (insane optimism) is obvious.

            • Artleads says:

              The studies mentioned seem to be dealing with much longer term than is meaningful to us at this point of world crisis. We can only meaningfully deal with very short periods of time (projection-wise). There are over 5 million fairly well educated South African whites? If they’d do something other than protect themselves with walls and guards, they might be able to do something short term that tempers the super intense aggressiveness of the Bantu that you mention. Enlightened Europeans (and Africans peoples under the Bantu whip) could offer yet other near term alternatives.

            • hkeithhenson says:

              “super intense aggressiveness of the Bantu”

              I don’t think this is justified at least the Bantu don’t seen any more aggressive than the Europeans. They did displace the San who seemed to have never been selected for war.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bantu_peoples

  43. This is a war for Civilization and the Civilized side is losing, for the first time since around 1500.

    Whether you like some of whatever Putin and his friends are proposing, his side is the side of stagnation, Eastern despotism and all that.

    The West , with all of its many and many shortcomings, is the side of progress.

    The idea was to take all the resources of the east and use it for virtually free. Only that would have enabled some elite humans to enter the next level of civilization beyond reach and open the door for space conquest.

    No matter how the war in Ukraine might conclude, the West won’t get the resources in Russia and Central Asia. the game seems to be lost.

    • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

      yes the game is lost.

      give up.

      surrender already.

      the Future is The East.

      Vlad the Great, ie Putin the Magnificent.

      • Ed says:

        The kingdom of G_d lead by Russia leads humankind to the stars. The great satan will continue with pedophilia and the mutilation of children.

    • Jarle says:

      > This is a war for Civilization and the Civilized side is losing, for the first time since around 1500.

      Yeah, right.

  44. quantiger says:

    I agree with this. The current round of proxy wars is extremely dangerous precisely because of the consumption of conventional weapons and loss of life in armed forces. This puts Russia, for instance, much closer to nuclear war if threatened.

    • My impression is that all sides are running short of conventional weapons. And, as you say, having enough soldiers is a problem as well. The US is having trouble finding volunteers who are fit enough.

      When a country runs short of everything but nuclear weapons, then the nuclear weapons seem more attractive.

      • Ed says:

        I would say no one wants to fight world war two again. So they do not maintain those weapons. What the US did in Iraq is the model. Missile strikes to remove air defense followed by saturation bombing of any and all industrial capabilities. In the Ukraine Russia has not been able to destroy the AWACS planes the US has circling Ukraine 24/7 as they are outside of Ukraine. Russia is trying too hard to be viewed by the world community as the good guys. Wars is hell, burn the bastards, win the war

  45. Global hegemony can only be maintained by domination through armed conflict. National pride allows no alternative.

    the USA spends nearly $1 trillion a year on armaments. Which is about the same total as the next 8 or 10 nations combined.

    without war, there would be no need for armaments, (and ‘hegemony’ could not exist)

    and no jobs making them. The USA was world leader in every kind of production, because there was sufficient cheap surplus energy to support it.

    Now there isn’t. And hasn’t been since 1970. Simple as that. A neat 50 years worth.

    so the war factories must stay in business by keeping the world in a state of armed aggression , nation against nation. We live in the delusion of debt.

    So yes–war looks to be inevitable , because no nation can accept decline. Citizens must be convinced that outsiders are contriving to ‘invade’ so war readiness must be maintained, no matter what the cost.

    MAGA anyone?—because that’s the real meaning of it. Every politico promises ‘growrth’—there isn’t going to be any—the dimmest bulb in any government knows what that means

    Eisenhower warned about what is happening right now.

    Senators who depend on war factory votes stay in office, in denial that there is now insufficient cheap energy available to support a viable economic system that provides a fair distribution of wealth.

    • Jarle says:

      > the USA spends nearly $1 trillion a year on armaments. Which is about the same total as the next 8 or 10 nations combined.

      But did they buy the right stuff? Aircraft carriers are fine for bullying defenceless countries but Russia and China not so much …

    • Ed says:

      Far more than one trillion. The whole of the department of energy is basically military. Much of the NSF is military supporting. Social security is used to pay for injured and retired military. More like 1.6 trillion.

  46. Shawn says:

    Brilliant. You have given us a look behind the curtain again. Thank you.
    I am thinking we Americans are not supposed to know about the ideas presented in your post …we are supposed to be out mindlessly borrowing and consuming to keep the hegemon going, for as long as is possible. I hope you don’t get a call from the censors on this one.

    Has the U.S. hegemon been a good thing? From 1945 until about perhaps before COVID, from a global human perspective most of the “human” economic and social indicators have been UP. Sometimes way up. (Not so much for the natural world, or course).

    Would human progress have been similar under a multi-polar world? Would we have spent our fossil fuel inheritance more wisely? Developed a green socialist utopia where we all live together peacefully? I am doubtful, but of course, we will never know.

    • Thanks!

      I tried to make certain that all of my links were to very well known, highly regarded sources. And I tried to stay away from conspiracy theories. But, even so, the article may be hit by censors.

      • are you serious about this article being censored~?

        • In today’s world, a whole lot of things get censored.

          • it never occurred to me that OFW would show on the censors radar

            maybe i’m just naive.

            • I have had Facebook take down links to my posts. The one I remember was probably covid-related.

            • well some of the stuff flying around on covid has been ridiculous over the past 2 years—-Bill Gates’s 5 G masts—to track everybody…wanting to deliberately decimate the world population, metal objects sticking to skin—and those are th ones i remember.

              OFW itself hasn’t been censored, but links to that kind of nonsense above on Facebook will certainly have been removed because its a public menace when people actually start beliving it.

            • Tim Groves says:

              “Decimate” is a very conservative estimate of the stated goals of the depopulators.

              I don’t think there is a specific word for reducing a population by 90~95%, but that’s the sort of number that tends to crop up.

              You may remember the Georgia Guidestones, which were blown up a while back. They contained a “guidance” encouraging us to “Maintain humanity under 500 million in perpetual balance with nature.”

              And then there was Jane Goodall, Speaking at a panel discussion called “Securing a Sustainable Future for the Amazon,” Jane had some choice words about the problems the current human population is causing for the planet. “We cannot hide away from human population growth, because, you know, it underlies so many of the other problems. All these things we talk about wouldn’t be a problem if there was the size of population that there was 500 years ago.” That was in line with the figure on the Guidestones.

              Meanwhile, pop philosopher, egghead (as in bald as a coot), and WEF adviser Yuval Noah Harari opined recently, “We just don’t need the vast majority of the population” in today’s world.

              And let’s not forget the late but well-meaning Prince Philip, who at any moment could reincarnate “as a deadly virus, to contribute something to solving overpopulation.”

            • Tim

              there seems little doubt that the planet’s population will revert to a sustainable level—0.5 to 1 billion maybe

              that does not mean that any group of ‘elders’; is contriving to bring it about, as is often promoted by the nuttier fringe of OFW

              as to ‘not needing” people—that suggests the belief that BAU will continue with the above number..
              Ive covered that in previous comments, if you choose to think that, I can only leave you to it—in the vain hope that you are engaged in a windup.

            • Tim Groves says:

              I wasn’t trying to wind you up about this.

              I wasn’t making any claims either.

              I was just providing evidence in the form of quotations that some people with lots of money and/or public platforms have stated their view that human population should be far lower than would be achieved by decimating it several times over.

            • ”having a view” isn’t the same thing as plotting to bring it about—“I could strangle him/her” is not evidence in a court of law as premeditated inten tto do harm until after the fact

              ”in my view” the world has 7 bn too many people

              i dont as yet have any plans to bring it about—neither does anyone else.

              the fact that it seems likely to happen anyway is another matter entirely, that is something beyond human control–other than nuclear conflict, which does not carry an exception certificate for some kind of ”elite”

              and neither does steep natural decline—the wealth of the wealthy is entirely dependent on the rest of us plebs to sustain it.

              there may be a few weathly individuals who dont know that–but i guess most do

        • Cromagnon says:

          It is really rocking now Norman. Up here the Trudeau gestapo are hammering free speech, openly and “legally” murdering the incarcerated, infirm and mentally ill. Open mockery of democracy and much display of occult symbolism.

          The collapse will NOT be televised…or seen online.

          Its ON!

          • jigisup says:

            Rats get choice of recreational poison in Canada.
            https://www.bitchute.com/video/JW4z5EAVTryR/

          • ///////murdering the incarcerated, infirm and mentally ill. Open mockery of democracy and much display of occult symbolism.//////

            are you sure about all those details cro?

            I talked to bro in ontario last week—he never mentioned anything like that

            Canada seems a fairly sane safe place to live, better than most I’d say

            • jigisup says:

              In the past I certainly would agree with you. Canadian cities seemed remarkably pleasant devoid of the racial tension of USA cities. THe way everyone went down to the park to hang out. A real sense of community. Students leaving school integrated naturally relaxed not in groups of the same race.

              When I traveled in rural Canada however with a Asian hotty girlfriend the racist bile was prevalent and apparent from both genders. Much much worse than the supposed racism of the USA south. THe USA south actually lives in multiculturalism you see walking the walk not talking the talk..

              Now the cities of Canada are overtaken by the new fascism represented by woke culture and medical tyranny. The relaxed and pleasant culture replaced by the new fascism where everything must be judged and the crime and drug abuse of the woke cities to its south. Trudhoe a Zelansky wannabe identical in their cabaret past- a superficial token to tolerance in its essence tribute to the leather aspect of fascism.. In fact one wonders about the Canadian Ukrainian rural population and the rise of the new woke fascism exemplified by Trudhoe and Chrystia Freeland a open Banderist. Perhaps Eddy can weigh in with a opinion as a Canadian ex-pat my reflections are based on short time spans in Canada.

            • racism expressed towards your ”hottie gf” (a disparaging term in itself btw) is not quite the same thing a murdering the mentally ill and infirm

            • CTG says:

              Norm, if you choose not to see or know, you will never see or know. After a period of time, you can get used to it and you will never get out of the bubble.

              Like the movie Matrix, if Neo takes the blue pill, he will never be able to see what is outside of this facade.

              That is why you are cocooned in your own bubble of “reality”. Simple.

            • ctg

              everyone is entitled to their own point of view—they are not entitled to inflict it on anyone else.—do bear that in mind.

              Ive never seen the movie Matrix— (your favourite word??)

              ”seeing and knowing” by your definition means seeing and knowing that we don’t exist at all—other than is some weird form that ‘exists’ in your head

              i think i can safely ‘exist’ outside that.

              My BS shield never lets me down

            • TIm Groves says:

              Norman, please read this substack article by Dr. Daniel Nagase—a Canadian doctor who lost his license for saving the lives of three of his patients using Ivermectin.

              This dropped into my email this morning. Nagase writes about a 47-year-old man who was ventilated to death despite having a normal blood pressure, a normal pulse, an oxygen saturation of 93% and being described on examination as “NAD. (No Acute Distress) Pt. Well Appearing. ALO x 3. (Alert and Oriented to time, place and person)”.

              https://danielnagase.substack.com/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=substack_profile

            • Tim

              we started going through this Ivermectin thing 2 years ago

              A brief copy of one of Dr Nagase’s comments below.:

              //////Could genetic engineering follow the same trajectory of development that computers had over the past 60 years?

              Some of my first memories of computers were a green screen where you typed instructions and sometimes a response other than “syntax error” would come up. I was maybe around 9 years old at the time. I had to read a booklet with a list of the words the computer could understand. Only if I used one of those words, would the machine do anything. Now, computers fit in your pocket, play movies, make phone calls, and answer spoken questions./////

              **************

              He may be an MD, but that doesn’t absolve him from BS—the line about other sciences following the development track of computers in size and speed has been done to death over the past few years

              human anatomy really doesn’t work like that…..i’m surprised at you following anyone promoting that childish rubbish.

              I think I can safely dismiss the rest of the good doctor’s ramblings if he’s trotting out that as some kind of scientific support for his theories.—no wonder he lost his license for ”saving lives”—it seems it isnt the only thing he’s lost

            • Cromagnon says:

              Your bro must have his head shoved firmly up his backside then. Is he triple vacced as well?
              Indeed the feds killed 39 inmates last year by lethal injection. In my province if you request “MAID” the province will literally fly a 5 person team to your location to assist in sending you through the veil ( but they will not fund any help in most assisted living applications), Trudeau does not even bother to attend question periods in the House of Commons, we have 19 identified CHINESE run police stations inside our borders, there are legal dispensaries for methampetamines, fentanyl, heroin etc, there is mounting evidence of Fratricide within the Trudeau family, the RCMP is utterly and completely corrupted, the Canadian charter of rights and freedoms has been used as toilet paper by the Liberal government…….
              shall I go on???

              The best we can hope for is open revolt of the prairie provinces and an attempt at cessation from the Dominion of Canada and an establishment of a Republic.
              Ontarioans can pound sand.

            • cro

              i read your comment with interest—I am prepared to listen to anybody’s point of view, up to a point)

              I think you may be confusing voluntary euthanaisia (which I agree with) with the involuntary version.

              then i got to the ”fratricide in the Trudeau family”

              then my BS siren went off.

              I’ve read your ”evidence” before cro—on all kinds of rubbish–worth a laugh if nothing else.

            • Jarle says:

              > The best we can hope for is open revolt of the prairie provinces and an attempt at cessation from the Dominion of Canada and an establishment of a Republic.

              Bring it on!

          • Fast Eddy says:

            One of good mates was in NZ to visit during the OFW hiatus… he is a senior manager in an investment bank is receptive to the theory that the CovCON is related to the financial situation…

            He was mentioning that there are signals from higher up out of the US beehive indicating this is far worse than 2008. No concrete statements just inferences.

            As you can imagine this was a hot topic during his visit — M Fast was for the most part unaware of much of the goings on in the financial industry — she receives various news feeds and she told us none of this is being discussed.

            Clearly CNNBBC would discuss this 24/7 like they did in 2008… if it was under control.

            Shall we interpret this as the Fed has lost control – or is about to?

            https://www.oftwominds.com/blogmay23/fed-loses-it5-23.html

        • jigisup says:

          If the restrict act passes wordpress will cease to exist along with bitchute and rumble in a matter of weeks.

  47. MaxMushroom says:

    Whenever I see articles predicting the fall of US and Europe, which i agree is likely to happen, the comments section is usually full of people from these 2 regions seemingly relishing in this fall, with an unhealthy dose of Putin backslapping thrown in for good measure. Its a strange psychology. As someone in Ireland with a big mortgage to pay, im not relishing this fall at all at all.

    • reante says:

      Liberated psychologies generally do seem strange to captive psychologies, don’t they Max? With preparedness comes freedom, with freedom comes responsibility. Conversely, with captivity comes normative irresponsibility; the only things stopping you from getting out of your mortgage are fear and/or lack of conviction.

      Any theatrical Putin-rooting is only natural seeing as how everyone loves an underdog and also hates their own circumstantial complicity within the hegemony. Many of us don’t do theatre. The peanut gallery may technically reside in the theater but those that inhabit the gallery are there to contemptuously throw peanuts on all the actors, which includes Putin and the rest of them, because the writer and director who wrote and directed their proxies have made themselves unavailable..

      Great pair of fitted graphs, Gail. They tell a thousand words. And your words themselves tell a simple, true narrative.

      • MaxMushroom says:

        Reante, oh I understand a simpler life is a more fulfillong one. Im referring to the values or lack of the hegemonies in question. I’d hazard a guess it’s going to be a lot harder living under a hegemony without something like the US Constitution guiding its values. We see exactly how little Russia and China think of human life – their own citizens nevermind the poor souls outside their borders – so im not welcoming this turn of events at all at all. We grew up in a glorious, hedonistic times. I had a lot of fun. But now the parties over and our new overlords have a view of human life out of the Dark Ages (in case you have any doubts, go watch the video of the Russians beheading a Ukrainian solder, videoing it, sharing it on Telegram, so wideapread approval). So yes, the celebrstions here, Kunstlers blog and JMG blogs are just plain weird.

        • reante says:

          You may understand it in your mind but from what you say you don’t yet feel it in your heart. And that’s okay, that’s part of the process many of us went through. Some of us, though, never had to run the disaffection gauntlet because we were Holden Caulfields from the beginning, naturally disaffected from the dominant culture from the beginning, like an Ellulian wild-type. So some people have to travel the hero’s journey farther than others, and some finish their journeys further ahead than others but the mark of a man or woman is where you finished compared to where it was that you started. How much of the winding, true path did you cover?

          We’re here to help. The party wasn’t “glorious,” regardless of how much you enjoyed it. That you think it was glorious hedonism is why you find disaffected sentiments to be weird. Living life as a stranger in a strange land isn’t for the faint of heart. But there’s also no rule that says you have to do it. But recognize that most people in collapse commentariats are such people.

          And this I know for sure: if you don’t welcome collapse for the true manifestation of Natural Law that it ultimately is — if you don’t learn to love collapse for its good qualities; if you don’t choose to step into that.fray with all your might — you ain’t gonna be doing nobody any favors, least of all yourself. If you truly have a penchant for glorious times, true glory, then collapse will be the best friend you ever did have.

          We men and women here still in our primes owe it to Gail, and Norman, and all the old folks here who don’t get to face down collapse in their primes – we owe it to them to do our utmost. Tim’s having a hard time right now because Tim’s on that cusp. Feeling his age. If Tim was a lesser man he’d keep that struggle to himself but he’s man enough to hold up that beautiful human struggle so that we all may learn from it. And in such authenticity, his personal struggle against becoming old becomes his de facto initiation rite into a true elderhood whose mortal disposition is the Service Above Self that Gail and our elders, here, embody.

          Romancing the Stone…Age. lol.

          • the only problem i see there is i have to be dead to get sanctified—unless his holiness might make an exception for me

            maybe tim can put in a good word

            • reante says:

              Naw, you make an exception for yourself – by being exceptional. You’re exceptional, norm. When you’re at your best you walk on the sacred ground that sanctifies you. Same goes for everyone.

            • you aint seen me walk on water yet

            • reante says:

              Twice a week at the leisure center I gather. 🙂

            • three or four times if im in the mood

              cept this week the pool was drained for maintainance

              (they said I’d worn out the water)

            • reante says:

              Oh I see so you’re raising the surface tension to a tremble by making sacred love to the water. Of course that’s how it would work. Thanks norm I’ll give it a try!

            • the shower is always useful for other purposes too—talking of trembling

            • reante says:

              Who needs Barry Long videos when your man can walk on water. Your girlfriend is a lucky woman.

    • Cromagnon says:

      That is completely understandable and not strange at all. The western hegemony has bred within it’s borders a massive population of spoiled, entitled, decadent, morons who have torn asunder the underlying fabric of the western society. This has resulted in more level headed and logical members of these populations becoming both revolted by their fellow “citizens” and desirous of change no matter what the cost.

      It is not an accident that Putin, who, whether sincere or not, champions traditional Christian vales has found admirers in those forced to swim among the vile, woke, “progressive” , soulless, NPC creatures inhabiting much of western society.

      What I have found shocking and has changed my entire worldview within the past 5 years is how closely events seem to follow biblical theology and some prophetic teachings.

      If you would have told me I would be entertaining the concepts of the tribulations, that UAP/UFO phenomenon is almost certainly intrusions of “fallen angels”/demonic/extradimensional mechanisms and that global cataclysm is about to unfold I would have laughed in your face (and I have known about peak oil and civilizational collapse since the 70s). I am not laughing any longer.

      Gail knows how truly fast this is going to accelerate to now…..fossil fuel is a small part of the dynamic at this point. The gods of this realm (the demonic demiurge and it’s archons) are preparing for war with the oversoul. Get right with yourself and your beliefs.

      • It looked to me as though the countries that were less into “financialization” could simply forgive un-payable debts, the way that the Old Testament talks about the “year of jubilee.” The countries that started depending upon the debt and building derivatives and ETFs using them needed to protect the banking system. This is part of why interest rates were raised. But raising interest rates tends to knock down the whole “house of cards.”

      • Richard says:

        The theory I have landed on is there are two groups. Those who rule and the common folk. Those who rule are on the home team. The common folk are the away. Metaphysically speaking from Rene Girard’s book Violence and the Sacred, the globe is going through a Dionysian ritual. And the USA is the sacrifice. Too many “coincidences”. All one really needs to do is some reading and it is really all spelled out. I realize this is “crazy” talk but if one looks into it, it is hard to deny.

        • reante says:

          That doesn’t sound crazy at all. I would say that the US blood sacrifice is the poster child on the bedroom wall of the cult’s teenage dreams.

          But it’s still only a prelude to the coming American Gothic, the cold, hard reality.. It’s stiff jab, if you will, to knock out the fight virgins but it’s nothing a seasoned veteran of real life can’t handle, and the cult needs to keep such folk around because they themselves are in regression, as the ultimate poster children that they are, and they’re scared to be left home alone.

    • Replenish says:

      As someone “from these 2 regions” I’m concerned with actual state violence against my family as well as an economic downturn from poor energy, socio-economic and foreign policy affecting my investments, small business and the ability to feed, cloth and house my family. Putin is the least of my worries when the sitting US President, PA Governor, Gov’t health authorities and aligned Corporations are/were threatening me with a loss of livelihood and access/mobility if I don’t follow their political dictates. GFY.

    • Fred says:

      A big mortgage to pay?? BAU party time then baby!

      FE would say take out a bigger mortgage and spend it on blow and hoes.

  48. Retired Librarian says:

    So, so glad you are back Gail— looking forward to reading the new article🤗!

    • Thanks! Sorry it takes me so long to get a new post together.

    • Jarle says:

      Does librarians read more than they catalogue or is it the other way around?

      • Retired Libarian says:

        Jarle, most librarians no longer know how to catalogue. It is all hired out to a couple of corporations. Covid policy closed my library for a year & forced me into early retirement. So for me it’s read, read!

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