Our Oil Predicament Explained: Heavy Oil and the Diesel Fuel it Provides Are Key

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It has recently become clear to me that heavy oil, which is needed to produce diesel and jet fuel, plays a far more significant role in the world economy than most people understand. We need heavy oil that can be extracted, processed, and transported inexpensively to be able to provide the category of fuels sometimes referred to as Middle Distillates if our modern economy is to continue. A transition to electricity doesn’t work for most heavy equipment that is powered by diesel or jet fuel.

A major concern is that the physics of our self-organizing economy plays an important role in determining what actually happens. Leaders may think that they are in charge, but their power to change the way the overall system works, in the chosen direction, is quite limited. The physics of the system tends to keep oil prices lower than heavy oil producers would prefer. It tends to cause debt bubbles to collapse. It tends to squeeze out “inefficient” uses of oil from the system in ways we wouldn’t expect. In the future, the physics of the system may keep parts of the world economy operating while other inefficient pieces get squeezed out.

In this post, I will try to explain some of the issues with oil limits as they seem to be playing out, particularly as they apply to diesel and jet fuel, the major components of Middle Distillates.

[1] The most serious issue with oil supply is that there seems to be plenty of oil in the ground, but the world economy cannot hold prices up sufficiently high, for long enough, to get this oil out.

As I frequently point out, the world economy is a physics-based system. World oil prices are set by supply and demand. Demand is quite closely tied to what people around the world can afford to pay for food and for transportation services because the use of oil is integral to today’s food production and transportation services.

Heavy oil is especially involved in this affordability issue. As oil becomes “heavier,” it becomes more viscous, and thus more difficult to ship by pipeline. If oil is very heavy, as is the oil from the Oil Sands of Canada, it needs to be mixed with an appropriate diluent to be shipped by pipeline.

Heavy oil often has sulfur and other pollutants mixed in, adding costs to the refining process. Furthermore, heavy oil, especially very heavy oil, often needs to be “cracked” in a refinery to provide a desirable mix of end products, including diesel, jet fuel, and gasoline. This, too, adds costs. Otherwise, there would be too much of the product mix that would be like asphalt. Also, as noted previously, even if the costs of production are high, the selling price of diesel cannot rise very high without raising food prices. This tends to keep the prices of heavy crude oils below those for lighter crude oils.

Many people believe that the high level of “Proved Oil Reserves” worldwide makes it certain that businesses can extract as much oil as they would like in the future. A major issue is whether these reserves mean as much as people assume they do. Oil reserves of OECD countries (an association of the US and other rich countries) are likely to be audited, but reserves of other countries may not be. Asking a relatively poor oil-exporting country the amount of its oil reserves is like asking the country how wealthy it is. We should not be surprised by fibbing on the high side. The problem is that the vast majority of reported oil reserves (85%) are held by non-OECD countries. These reserves may be significantly overstated.

Also, even if the reserves are fairly reported, will the country have the resources to extract these reserves? Venezuela reports the highest oil reserves in the world thanks to its heavy oil in the Orinoco Belt, but it extracts a relatively small amount per year. An October 2022 article says that the country is waiting for foreign investment to expand production.

Going forward, oil companies everywhere need to worry about broken supply lines for necessary items, such as steel drilling pipe. They need to worry about finding enough trained workers. They need to worry about the availability of debt and the interest rate that will be charged for this debt. If private oil companies look at the true prospects and find them too bleak, they will likely use their profits to buy back the shares of their own oil companies instead (as is happening now).

[2] While oil producers can crack heavy oil to make shorter hydrocarbons in a way that is not terribly expensive, trying to make near-gasses and light oils into diesel becomes impossibly expensive.

It is easy for people to assume that any part of the oil mix is substitutable for another part, but this is not true. Cracking long hydrocarbon chains works to make shorter chains, but the economics tend not to work in the other direction. Thus, it is not economically feasible to make gasoline into diesel (which is heavier), or natural gas liquids into diesel.

[3] If there is inadequate oil supply, the impacts on the economy are likely to include broken supply lines, empty shelves, and inflation in the price of goods that are available.

If there is not enough oil to go around, some users must be left out. The result is that some of the less profitable consumers of oil may file for bankruptcy. For example, the Wall Street Journal recently reported Trucking Giant Yellow Shuts Down Operations. This bankruptcy makes it impossible for some stores to get the merchandise that would normally be on their shelves. As a consequence, it makes it likely that some replacement parts for automobiles will not be available when needed. There is a workaround of renting another vehicle while a person’s car is waiting for repairs, but this adds to total costs.

This workaround illustrates how a lack of adequate oil can indirectly lead to higher overall costs, even if the oil itself is not higher-priced. The need to work around supply line problems tends to lead to inflation in the prices of goods that continue to be available.

[4] The fact that the quantity of oil that could be affordably extracted was likely to fall short about now has been known for a very long time, but this fact has been hidden from the public.

In 1957, Hyman Rickover of the US navy predicted that the amount of affordable fossil fuels would fall short between 2000 and 2050, with the amount of oil falling short earlier than coal and natural gas.

The book The Limits to Growth by Donella Meadows and others, published in 1972, discusses the result of early modeling efforts with respect to resource limits. These resource limits were very broadly defined, including minerals such as copper and lithium in addition to fossil fuels. A range of indications were produced, but the base model (based on business as usual) seemed to show limits hitting before 2030 (Figure 1).

Figure 1. Base scenario from the 1972 book, The Limits to Growth, printed using today’s graphics by Charles Hall and John Day in “Revisiting Limits to Growth After Peak Oil.”

Since the resource limits include minerals of all types, these limits would seem to preclude a transition to clean energy and electric cars.

Educators, advertisers, and political leaders could see that discussing the oil problem would cause economic suicide. What would be the point of buying a car, if a person couldn’t use it for very long? Educators felt that students needed to be guided in the direction of hoped-for solutions, no matter how remote they might be, if university programs were to remain open.

Politicians and government officials wanted to keep voters happy, so the self-organizing economy pushed them in the direction of keeping the story from the public. They tended to focus on climate issues instead. They added biofuels to stretch the supply of gasoline, and to a lesser extent, diesel. They also increased the share of natural gas liquids. The selling price of these liquids tends to be quite low, relative to the price of crude oil.

They started providing reports showing “all liquids” rather than “crude oil,” in the hope that people wouldn’t notice the change in mix.

Figure 2. World “total liquids” production by type, based on international data from the US EIA.

[5] The world’s number one problem today seems to be an inadequate supply of Middle Distillates. These provide diesel and jet fuel.

Diesel and jet fuel provide the big bursts of power that commercial equipment requires. Many types of equipment are dependent on Middle Distillates, including semi-trucks, agricultural equipment, ocean-going ships, jet planes, road-making equipment, school buses, and trains operating in areas with steep inclines.

Because of its concentrated store of energy, diesel is also used to operate backup generators and to provide electricity in remote areas of the world where it would be impractical to have year-round electricity without an easily stored fuel.

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Figure 3. World oil consumption by product type based on “Regional Consumption” data from the 2023 Statistical Review of World Energy, published by the Energy Institute. Oil includes natural gas liquids.

In Figure 3:

  • Light Distillates are primarily gasoline (78% in 2022).
  • Middle Distillates are diesel (82%) and jet fuel/kerosene (18%).
  • Fuel Oil is a cheap, polluting, unrefined product. If environmental laws permit, it can be burned as bunker fuel (used in ships), as boiler fuel, or to provide electricity.
  • The Other category includes near-gasses such as ethane, propane, and butane (58%). It also includes some very heavy oil used as lubricants, asphalt, or feedstocks for petrochemicals.

Until recently, it has been possible to increase diesel production by refining an added share of Fuel Oil. Fuel oil is quite heavy (barely a liquid), so it is well-suited to be refined into a mix that includes a large share of Middle Distillates.

Now we are running short of Fuel Oil to refine for the purpose of producing more Middle Distillates. The Fuel Oil that is still consumed is used in what I think of as the poorer countries of the world: the non-OECD countries (Figure 4).

Figure 4. World Fuel Oil consumption split between OECD (rich countries) and Non-OECD (poor countries) from the 2023 Statistical Review of World Energy, published by the Energy Institute.

Poor countries tend to value “low price” over “prevents pollution.” It is likely to be difficult to get these countries to move away from the use of Fuel Oil.

[6] Countries around the world are now competing for Middle Distillates to maintain the food production, road building, commercial transportation, and construction portions of their economies.

Figure 5. World per capita consumption of Middle Distillates and Light Distillates based on “Regional Consumption” data from the 2023 Statistical Review of World Energy, published by the Energy Institute.

Figure 5 shows that since about 1983, consumption per capita for both Light Distillates and Middle Distillates has been generally slightly growing. Growth in usage tends to be higher for Middle Distillates than Light Distillates. The total quantity consumed is also higher for Middle Distillates.

The dip in consumption per capita in 2020 is much more pronounced for Middle Distillates than Light Distillates. For Middle Distillates, the change from 2018 to 2020 is -16%; the change from 2018 to 2022 is -7%. The corresponding changes for Light Distillates are -11% and -4%.

The difference in patterns in Light Distillates and Middle Distillates is not surprising: Gasoline, the main product of Light Distillates, has been the focus of efficiency changes. It is also possible to dilute gasoline with ethanol, made from corn. Voters in the US are particularly aware of gasoline availability and price, so politicians tend to focus on it.

Diesel and jet fuel, made using Middle Distillates, are less on the minds of voters, but they are probably more important to the economy because people’s jobs depend upon the economy in its current form holding together. Inadequate Middle Distillates leaves empty shelves in stores because of broken supply lines. It also leads to inflation of the type we have recently been experiencing. Indirectly, lack of Middle Distillates can lead to debt bubbles collapsing, and to problems of a different type than inflation.

Figure 6. Middle Distillate consumption for OECD and non-OECD countries, based on “Regional Consumption” data from the 2023 Statistical Review of World Energy, published by the Energy Institute.

Up until 2007, Middle Distillate consumption was generally increasing for both OECD countries and non-OECD countries. The Great Recession of 2008-2009 particularly affected OECD countries. European countries found their economies doing less well. For example, less diesel was used to operate tour boats carrying tourists; a larger share of available jobs were low-paid service jobs.

The year 2013 was a turning point of a different type. The consumption of non-OECD countries caught up with that of OECD countries. While non-OECD countries might like to maintain their rapid upward trajectory in the consumption of Middle Distillates, this no longer seems to be possible.

[7] Under the Maximum Power Principle, the physics of the economy pushes the economy toward optimal low-cost solutions, especially as the quantity of Middle Distillates approaches limits.

The economy, like every other ecosystem, operates under the principle of “survival of the best adapted.” In terms of the sale of goods, this means that the lowest-priced goods will tend to win out in a competitive environment, provided that they are of adequate quality and that the makers can earn an adequate profit in making them.

Furthermore, the makers of the goods must earn a high enough profit both for reinvestment and to pay adequate taxes to their governments. Payments of taxes to governments are essential; otherwise governmental collapse would occur due to the growing debt that cannot be repaid.

If inflation becomes a problem, rising interest rates would tend to push governments with large amounts of debt toward collapse because they would become unable even to make interest payments from current income.

In this self-organizing economy, buyers of goods don’t know or care much about the lives of the workers in the system. Optimal low costs of manufacturing in a world market might mean:

  • Manufacturers have access to very inexpensive energy sources and use them.
  • Pollution control is ignored to the maximum extent possible, without serious harm to the workers.
  • Governments provide very little in the way of benefits to citizens, such as health care or pensions, keeping the cost of government low.
  • Workers can get along on relatively low salaries because little heating or cooling of homes is needed.
  • Workers don’t expect private vehicles, recreational activities, or advanced medical care.

Because the economy favors the lowest cost of profitable production, a person would expect that warm countries that use oil sparingly in their energy mix (India, the Philippines, and Vietnam, for example) would have a competitive edge over other countries in manufacturing.

In general, a person would expect non-OECD countries to outcompete OECD countries, especially if cheap fuel for manufacturing is available. The lack of cheap fuel is increasingly becoming a problem in many parts of the world. Coal used to be cheap, but its price can now spike. Natural gas prices can also spike, especially if natural gas is purchased without a long-term contract. Electricity using wind and solar tends to be high-priced, too, when the cost of transmission is included.

[8] The Maximum Power Principle seems to be pushing the EU away from diesel.

The EU has a serious oil problem. It has essentially no crude oil production of its own. Furthermore, oil production in Europe outside of the EU (mainly the UK and Norway) has been falling since 1999, greatly reducing the possibility of imported oil from this area (Figure 7).

Figure 7. Total Europe and European Union oil production, including natural gas liquids, based on data from the 2023 Statistical Review of World Energy, published by the Energy Institute.

Under these circumstances, members of the EU found that they needed to import nearly all of their oil, and that most of this oil needed to come from outside Europe.

When I look at the data regarding the types of oil the EU has chosen to consume (nearly all imported), I find that it uses an oil mix that is unusually skewed toward Middle Distillates and away from Light Distillates. (Compare Figure 8 with Figure 3).

Figure 8. EU oil consumed by product type based on “Regional Consumption” data from the 2023 Statistical Review of World Energy, produced by the Energy Institute. Oil includes natural gas liquids.

Part of the reason the EU uses this skewed oil mix is because it has encouraged the use of private passenger cars using diesel through its tax structure. Underlying this tax structure was most likely an understanding that Russia, through its exports of Urals Oil, which is heavy, could provide the EU with the mix of oil products it needed, including extra diesel.

The EU has recently cut off most oil imports from Russia as a way of punishing Russia. This cutoff is being phased in, with most of the impact in 2023 and later. Thus, Figure 8 (which is through 2022) shouldn’t be much affected.

China and India are now buying most of Russia’s exported oil. These countries tend to use the oil more “efficiently” than the EU. In particular, they do more manufacturing than the EU, and they have far fewer private passenger cars per capita than the EU. Furthermore, the EU powers quite a few of its private passenger cars with diesel. If diesel is in short supply, efficiency demands that it should be saved for uses that require it, such as powering heavy equipment.

Because of the efficiency issue, I doubt that the EU will be able to continue importing as high a diesel mix in the future as it has been importing up to now. We know that Saudi Arabia cut back its oil exports by 1 million barrels per day, as of July 1, and this cutback is continuing into August. Russia is also cutting its production by 500,000 barrels a day, effective August 1. If oil prices rise again, I wonder whether the EU will be forced to cut back on its oil imports, essentially because of the Maximum Power Principle.

[9] The substitution of electricity for oil so far has been mostly in the direction of replacing gasoline usage for private passenger automobiles. Substitution of electricity for Middle Distillates would be virtually impossible.

Middle Distillates are largely used for the tough jobs–jobs that require big bursts of power. Electricity and the battery storage required for electricity are not adapted to these tough jobs. The vehicles become too heavy, especially when the big battery packs that would be required are considered. The Wall Street Journal recently reported that battery-powered commercial trucks can cost more than three times the price of diesel-powered trucks, a hurdle much smaller private passenger automobiles don’t face. The wide diversity of types of heavy commercial vehicles would be another huge hurdle in trying to substitute electricity for diesel.

Oil is a mixture of different hydrocarbon lengths. Substitution of electricity for one part of the hydrocarbon mix, namely for the Light Distillates, is not very helpful. Oil companies need to be able to sell all parts of the mix in order to make their extraction efforts worthwhile. If oil companies find themselves without buyers for most Light Distillates, they would have difficulty recouping their overall costs. There would be a possibility of oil production stopping. Without oil, farming would mostly stop. Road repair would stop. Today’s economy would come to a halt.

Of course, as a practical matter, the vast majority of the world will pay no attention to mandates that all private passenger automobiles be EVs. Buyers in most parts of the world will make decisions based on which cars are least expensive to own and operate. As a result, there is little chance of private passenger cars being completely replaced by EVs. Instead, EV mandates in some countries may somewhat reduce the selling price of gasoline worldwide because these drivers are no longer using gasoline. With lower gasoline prices, non-EV’s are likely to become cheaper to operate in countries where they are permitted, boosting their sales. This is an effect similar to Jevons Paradox.

[10] There are many related topics that could be addressed, but they will need to wait until later posts.

A few of samples of other issues:

[a] The world economy is tightly networked together. Inadequate oil supplies per capita tend to push the economy toward forced reduced activity, as was the case in 2020. Oil prices likely won’t rise a whole lot higher, for very long, if the economy is forced to shrink.

[b] Inadequate oil supplies per capita also tend to cause fighting among countries. OECD countries seem to over consume, relative to the benefits they provide to the rest of the world. Perhaps some grouping of non-OECD countries (or parts of countries) will take over in leadership roles.

[c] The self-organizing economy has different priorities than human leaders. All ecosystems in a finite world go through cycles. As conditions change, different species are favored, and new species emerge. Humans have a strong preference for recent conditions that helped humans thrive. Humans need a religion to follow, so leaders have created environmental sin to replace original sin. The catch is that ecosystems are built for change. Pollution can be viewed as a type of fertilizer for different types of species or recent mutations to thrive. Higher temperatures will have a net favorable effect for some organisms.

[d] If a local economy chooses to increase energy costs by taking steps to reduce its carbon footprint, the main impact may be to disadvantage the local economy relative to the world economy. If total energy costs are higher, the cost of finished goods and services is likely to be higher, making the economy less competitive.

[e] I expect that the members of the EU and other rich nations will be the primary countries pursuing carbon reduction technologies. Poorer economies may pay lip service to carbon reduction, but they will tend to focus primarily on increasing the welfare of their own people, whether or not this requires more carbon.

For example, in 2022, China accounted for 66% of global EV sales (5.0 million out of 7.7 million), thanks to subsidies that China made available. China no doubt had many motives, but one of them would seem to be to stimulate the economy. Another motive would be to increase the total number of vehicles in operation. The majority (61%) of electricity generation in China in 2022 was provided by electricity coming from coal-fired power plants, based on information from the Energy Institute. I would expect that more Chinese vehicles manufactured and placed into operation plus more use of electricity from coal would lead to a greater quantity of carbon emissions, rather than a smaller quantity.

About Gail Tverberg

My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
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3,527 Responses to Our Oil Predicament Explained: Heavy Oil and the Diesel Fuel it Provides Are Key

  1. From Sunday, on Zerohedge,

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/nikola-issues-ev-truck-recall-halts-sales-after-thermal-incident-probe

    Struggling electric vehicle maker Nikola announced a recall of its battery-powered electric trucks after a third-party investigation revealed a “thermal event” was the probable cause for a June 23 truck fire at the company’s Phoenix, Arizona, headquarters. Nikola previously suggested the fire was the result of ‘foul play.’

    Nikola released the details about the “voluntary recall of approximately 209 Class 8 Tre battery-electric vehicles (BEVs)” late Friday evening after the US equity cash session was closed. However, there were still 30 or so minutes left in the after-hours session, and shares of the company slid 5%. . .

    It added the findings were “further corroborated by a minor thermal incident that impacted one pack on an engineering validation truck parked at the company’s Coolidge, Ariz. plant on Aug. 10.”

    About 60% of the heavy-duty battery-electric trucks manufactured by the company over the last year have been recalled. This is almost every truck that was shipped to customers. These trucks are currently used by commercial freight businesses, parked at dealership lots or the company’s headquarters. . .

    Nikola recently flagged “substantial doubts” about its ability to continue operations for the next 12 months.

    • Dennis L. says:

      Looked at it briefly; obviously I have interest, but.

      Radiation is a big problem, biology does not do well with radiation, earth has an iron core and hence a magnetic field. Generating that size field requires incredible energy.

      Maybe, but AI and mechanical ribosomes seems like a better bet. I think biology is home, earth; we need minerals, that is a soluble problem if Starship works; always the gravity well.

      Dennis L.

      • Keith Henson says:

        “Radiation is a big problem”

        It sure is.

        “Generating that size field”

        Magnetic shielding was investigated in the very early space colony days and found impractical.

        Six meters of polyethylene or ten meter of rock will do the trick.

        I think most work in space will be teleoperation until the robots have constructed habitats for us.

        • Dennis L. says:

          So a farcical solution: Find sufficient asteroids, and surround the station with rocks, basically living underground. It does not sound very appealing.

          Mechanical ribosomes to the rescue, man in space does not seem worth the bother. No matter how hard we work at it, even with Starship Mars is a stretch and interstellar space, not for a few years.

          We will need to husband our current resources and spend them wisely, they are finite the name of this site reminds us. TINA

          Dennis L.

          • Keith Henson says:

            “It does not sound very appealing. ”

            The artwork for O’Neill cylinders looks inviting. They are technically accurate with respect to radiation shielding.

            “Mechanical ribosomes”

            That sound like an alternate name for nanotech assemblers And yes, such things will change just about everything.

    • the ‘clangers’ was real after all

      not sci fi

  2. Daniel LaCalle seems to have at least most of the story right. He thinks that free markets might solve the problem. I am doubtful.

    https://www.dlacalle.com/en/the-european-energy-crisis-may-be-back-soon/
    The European Energy Crisis May Be Back Soon

    Unfortunately, the European Union bureaucrats declared the end of the energy crisis as if it were the result of decisive policy action, but the reality is that the energy problem in the EU was only diminished by purely external factors: a very mild winter and the decline in global commodity prices due to the central bank rate hikes. Thus, the energy crisis remains, and the problems of security of supply and affordability of the system persist.

    The European Union’s dependency on Russian gas has not been solved; it has only been disguised by a massive increase in dependency on coal (lignite) in the case of Germany and expensive liquefied natural gas imported from the rest of the world. At the end of 2022, Germany’s energy mix was the clearest example of its energy policy failure. Hard coal and lignite accounted for 31.2%, natural gas 13.8%, and mineral oil 0.8%, with nuclear at 6.0%. After almost 200 billion euros in renewable subsidies, Germany needs more coal and imported natural gas. What did the government decide after facing the mistake of shutting down almost all its nuclear fleet? You guessed it. Double down and continue with the process of closing the remaining ones. No wonder Germany is in recession. Its industrial model requires abundant and affordable energy, and the different governments have made the cost of energy uncompetitive.

    What about Spain? The government decided to implement an “Iberian exception” that eliminates the cost of gas from the wholesale power price only to charge it back to consumers as a surcharge in the bill. The result? The fifth highest electricity bill in Europe sent hundreds of millions of euros to France and Portugal that purchased the subsidized energy while the Spanish consumer paid the bill to natural gas producers, and its imports of Russian liquefied natural gas (LNG) soared, but the government tried to convince citizens that LNG from Novatek is “not Russian gas” because it is not a pipeline Gazprom supply, even when the supplier is a leading Russian energy multinational. You cannot make this up.

    . . .

    The European energy crisis was not solved. It was disguised thanks to a mild winter and the slowdown in coal and gas imports from China. European governments continue to place all their bets on a misguided energy transition that ignores security of supply and competitiveness and will make the EU depend on China for rare earths and metals as well as the U.S. and OPEC for commodities.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Imagine if you had the power to threaten to inflict severe pain on an enemy… forcing them to do whatever the f789 you wanted them to do …

      By reducing the amount of energy you supply them with….

      The enemy wages war against you — but you don’t use the energy weapon to find back.

      Why not?

      • Ed says:

        At this point I have to agree with you. Russia should cut of energy, grain, fertilizer, steel to the enemy. That they do not tells us there is a big part of the story we do not see.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Yet another example of ‘intelligence’

          Nobody can explain why Pooty doesn’t do this — yet they insist there is a war — a war so massive that they have used up all the bombs and ammo that the US/NATO can produce …

          How f789ing ridiculous is that!

          Imagine if we actually had democracy… billions of re tards voting and making decisions hahahahaha that would truly be Idiocracy

  3. Dennis L. says:

    I think Peter Cassidy is good at this sort of calculation.

    Oil usage and coal usage in the last say ten years has increased; this is essentially rapid release of stored fusion energy from the sun.

    How many Hiroshima bomb equivalents in energy released is this?

    I am not a climate alarmist, but adding to the exogenous heat load of the planet does not seem to be a good long-term experiment as if the result is not favorable, we are literally toast.

    ff was an interim solution for biology, the future is in space, but not man in space; man is already in space on spaceship earth traveling at some 500+K mph through the universe. In my day, “What a ride in overdrive!”

    We do all industrial processing in space with fusion energy, we live on spaceship earth on natural energy; all the industrial processes requiring continuous energy are done on the moon or whatever. We cannot solve the intermittency problem on earth, wind turbines are literally falling down or wearing out faster than they can be replaced; that says nothing about their being ugly.

    My bet will be proven or disproven within twelve months, Starship needs to achieve orbit, then AI needs to solve the mechanical ribosome problem. My best guess over all these years, if it doesn’t work, well the doomers may yet be right.

    Dennis L.

    • ivanislav says:

      >> I am not a climate alarmist, but adding to the exogenous heat load of the planet does not seem to be a good long-term experiment as if the result is not favorable, we are literally toast.

      It doesn’t matter. Have you heard of black body radiation? The more energy you add, the more gets dissipated and it gradually returns to steady state. Adding more input doesn’t do anything long-term, it’s the continuous input and dissipation rate that matters.

      • FiatJustitiaEtPereatMundus says:

        Thanks Ivanislav, it’s surprising how many people are incapable a doing a search for “heat radiation” or any similar term.
        They would find out that the energy emitted is proportional to the fourth (!) power of the temperature.

        Just like you said, all that matter is the dissipation rate (aka the “greenhouse effect”). Without it, Earth’s temperature would be below freezing.

        Looking at the big picture, my favorite hypothesis is that the humanity is just the Earth’s way to recycle the buried Carbon – otherwise the CO2 in the atmosphere would go too low for plants.
        As soon as we finish digging all the accessible carbon, we’ll simply die out. How’s that for a purposeful universe?

        • Dennis L. says:

          Fiat,
          Could the problem be the earth is adapted to a very narrow range of temperatures? Alternating days and nights seems to give the earth time to radiate; it has worked for a few years. The tilt of the earth also gives the N/S hemispheres time to rest.

          Dennis L.

      • Dennis L. says:

        iv,

        Maybe, one of the others better versed, but radiated heat is a function of temperature, and steady state it would seem to me can be a higher temperature assuming energy input remains constant at a higher level.

        Dennis L.

        • FiatJustitiaEtPereatMundus says:

          Dennis,
          that is half a thought. Why not complete it?

          Let’s assume the energy in doubles while everything else stays the same. What is the temperature?

          Since the energy radiated ~ T^4, the temperature will be Tinitial * 2 ^(1/4) ~ 1.1*Tinitial.

          I know this is the internet where nobody can hold a thought for more than a second, but can we please try to follow the science and logic to the end?

      • Keith Henson says:

        “Have you heard of black body radiation?”

        It’s a more complicated. The heat we release counting the carnot losses is a few tens of TW. The trapped sunlight that the CO2 blocks from reradiating is at least 400 TW, 25 times the human energy use.

        • ivanislav says:

          You are changing the subject to CO2. He asked specifically about the added heat.

          • Keith Henson says:

            “subject to CO2”

            True, but where the Earth is concerned they interact. A greenhouse lets light in, but blocks the outgoing IR. Some gases do the asam.

            There is poorly worked out proposal, UpDraft, to build high towers that would make clouds several km up where they were above most of the CO2 that blocks IR radiation.

            • Keith Henson says:

              There is another proposal that you don’t hear much about. Adding 5 methane eating genes to corn would reduce the methane to near zero in a couple of years.

              To my amazement, the US corn crop filters the whole atmosphere in that time. This was proposed by Dr. Stuart Strand in 2009 at a confidential meeting. Never figured out why such meetings were not supposed to be talked about.

  4. Dennis L. says:

    Thanks to all of you, always something to consider.

    My current belief is ff were a transition, DM and DM got the pre peak correct, we are discovering the post peak. Energy makes life convenient, power(energyx time) makes modern life possible, modern life is good, pollution is not good, it is not biological and the result of too much power, energy intensity.

    The hypothesis that Starship is a means to the next stage of humanity and will be tested soon; if we run out or resources or political will, it will fail and we will regress to pure biology which is not pleasant. Doubt it? There are videos of seals snapping their heads with penguins literally coming out of their skins; seals apparently don’t like feathers.

    AI means finding mechanical ribosomes for using all the elements floating around us in space.

    It is going to be an interesting year, Starship boosters are piling up, the launch pad is apparently ready or very close, blast off! Laughing quietly.

    AI is thinking deep thoughts, how do I make a ribosome?

    Biologically, who, what made the first ribosome? Something, some exogenous power? Seems like a good guess.

    Dennis L.

  5. MG says:

    Why 2 religions dominate the world?

    Mohamed wanted to control the population using the killing, himself having 4 wives.
    Jesus Christ was celibate and required the personal austerity.

    • MG says:

      More exactly, JK preached self-sacrifice for others.

      It is clear that the religions are about the population control.

    • I AM THE MOB says:

      As long as people are scared of the dark, death and each other. There will always be religion.’

      -Christopher Hitchens

      • Mirror on the wall says:

        ‘God’ can be pretty scary too. I was reading about Dawkins last night.

        “The total amount of suffering per year in the natural world is beyond all decent contemplation. During the minute that it takes me to compose this sentence, thousands of animals are being eaten alive, many others are running for their lives, whimpering with fear, others are slowly being devoured from within by rasping parasites, thousands of all kinds are dying of starvation, thirst, and disease. It must be so. If there ever is a time of plenty, this very fact will automatically lead to an increase in the population until the natural state of starvation and misery is restored. In a universe of electrons and selfish genes, blind physical forces and genetic replication, some people are going to get hurt, other people are going to get lucky, and you won’t find any rhyme or reason in it, nor any justice. The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference.” – Richard Dawkins, River Out of Eden: A Darwinian View of Life

        What he says there is true, and he is perhaps influenced by Schopenhauer who anticipated all of this long before Darwin was published, but the suffering of the world, and the apparent ‘pointlessness’ of it all is also compatible with a ‘god’ who frankly does not give one about all of the suffering and apparent ‘pointlessness’ as Nietzsche pointed out.

        The ‘humanitarian’ god is not the only one conceivable, even if it is the only one that most people could stomach. ‘Power’ is the only concept that is really necessary in god. Arguably the New Atheist critique of theism has understood Schopenhauer and it has generally not felt the need to grapple with Nietzsche because most theists are not willing to go there anyway.

        Arguably the situation was different on that count at the time of the Reformation with the Calvinist/ Lutheran ‘Pauline’/ Augustinian doctrine of predestination ‘prior to merits and prior to the Fall’ (ante lapsum), which arguably is the only philosophically coherent version of ‘Christianity’ given the Epicurean Trilemma (which I will not go into just now unless pressed for clarity on that point. See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trilemma )

        I believe that I did hear Hitchins/ Dawkins concede that not all types of ‘god’ are disprovable, or it might have been someone else like Hawkins. It is usually easy for the New Atheists to ‘win’ debates on the philosophy of religion, which is what it is, because most people have never really studied it and the old Lutheran son Nietzsche is a lot more reputed than he is really understood.

        But that ‘other’, Augustinian god, who damns nearly everyone just because he wants to, is pretty ‘scary’ too – which is not to say that universal salvation is entirely incompatible with the foregoing because that would assume that god is ‘consistent’ on the ‘humanitarian’ thing in ‘this’ life and the ‘next’, which would just be an assumption. But if this world is anything to go by, then the odds would not look good. So, atheism is an understandable choice.

        • MG says:

          The Czech Republic is a largely atheist country, but when you enter a bookshop there, you are shocked by the omnipresence of the ezoteric and similar literature.

          Atheism is largely illusionary, there is always a belief in something that provides humans the hope against the cruel reality that they are mere extinguishing bioreactors.

        • JMS says:

          The universality of suffering and cruelty leads us inexorably to the conclusion that God, if he exists, is indifferent to the welfare of its supposed creatures. And such an impersonal God has zero interest, so it’s indifferent whether he exists or not. IOW if he doesn’t care about me, why should I care about him? “God’s only excuse is that he does not exist” (Stendhal).

        • Tim Groves says:

          Very interesting comment, Mirror.

          It is difficult for me to reconcile all the pain and suffering that goes on in the natural world (as a feature, mind you, not a bug) with the idea of a good and caring and loving God.

          However, it is important to acknowledge that as human beings, our understanding is limited. At least, mine is. We may not be able to comprehend the full scope of God’s plan or the reasons behind every instance of suffering.

          Just to clarify, for anyone confused by your nomenclature:

          Hitchins = Christopher Hitchens

          Hawkins = Stephen Hawking

          Also, top marks for spelling Schopenhauer and Nietzsche correctly. That shows you have spelling been championship potential.

        • suffering is the normality of all species

          the bigger you are, the less likely you are to be eaten by something even bigger

          but that is wrong

          no matter how big you are, something will consume you from the inside—and that could not be prevented , until we had modern medical systems

          but that is only about 100/150 years old, and entirely dependent on the sustainability of modern industry.

          when modern industry goes into terminal decline, our old diseases will return with a vengeance, we will suffer again because no means will be available to prevent it.

          have a happy future folks

          • MG says:

            Slowing down to minimalism:

            https://youtu.be/qSokHy7k2hY

          • Tim Groves says:

            There is a lot of suffering in the world, even in the age of the Smartphone, Norman. And some of it is because of the Smartphone. And there is a lot of disease too. Don’t you agree?

            Trying to eliminate suffering is like playing that whack-a-mole game.

            But we can be happy, if we can learn to bear our suffering with dignity and to suffer fools gladly.

            • yup—i suffer one or two—with just a little humour to cushion their own perceived impact level.–which isn’t much.

              my comment, in essence, was that we have held suffering at bay for a century or so.

              without cheap surplus energy it will come back at us with a vengeance because we no longer possess the means to deal with it

              ie–we expect others to deal with it our our behalf.

              the human lot was never thus.

            • sorry

              the human lot was —ever– thus

        • Keith Henson says:

          Dawkins was a major influence on my thinking and writing, particularly with respect to memes. I have met him a couple of times and he said nice things about me coining the word “memeoids” in the second ed. of Selfish Gene.

      • Dennis L. says:

        IATM,

        Reading “The Ancient City.” The original religions or earliest recorded were worship of ancestors to they could rest in peace, the records do not show fear of dark, death, etc, but fear of being forgotten and for the living becoming the dead becoming demons.

        “Honor thy father and mother” etc.

        Dennis L

        • MG says:

          The zombies are in fact the malfunctioning bioreactors that neither extinguish, nor run at full capacity.

    • We don’t know whether Jesus was married or not. The Bible doesn’t tell us one way or another.

      • MG says:

        The real Jesus does not matter, it is the principle behind these 2 main religions.

        Basically, it does not matter if Jesus lived or not. The stories may be distorted. The point is that there is a demand for such a person.

        • Dennis L. says:

          “The point is that there is a demand for such a person.”

          Disagree:

          Anthropomorphic, the fabric of the universe is revealed to us, hopefully what we see is a finished product to that point as I think God is 80/20, i.e. not perfect but good enough.

          Dennis >

      • Fast Eddy says:

        I thought he was shacked up with the ho-oker?

    • Keith Henson says:

      “Why 2 religions dominate the world?”

      A more fundamental question would be why do humans have religions at all? It’s a psychological trait and evolutionary psychology states that such traits have evolved. Which means that sometime in the past the ability to have beliefs contributed to the survival of your genes.

      I think this trait is a side effect of genetic selection for wars. Religions, at the heart of them, are xenophobic memes. Amplifying and spreading xenophobic memes is the first step on the path to tribal wars after recognizing a looming resource shortage.

      • all religions guarantee ‘truth”

        that truth is offered as answers to all the things humankind have no other answers for.

        mostly the truths are benign—but sometimes that truth is an excuse for murderous conflict and persecution.

        animals don’t carry this problem

        which is why we humans are so ”superior”.

  6. MikeJones says:

    Reuters
    New Covid vaccines are on the way as ‘Eris’ variant rises
    By Michael Erman

    NEW YORK, Aug 14 (Reuters) – A new COVID vaccine is due out next month, but health experts and analysts say it is likely to be coolly received even as hospitalizations from “Eris”, a variant of the Omicron form of the coronavirus, rise around the country.
    Some public health experts hope that Americans will welcome the new shot as they would a flu jab. But demand for the vaccine has dropped sharply since 2021 when it first became available and more than 240 million people in the U.S., or 73% of the population, received at least one shot.
    In the fall of 2022, by which time most people had either had the COVID virus or the vaccine, fewer than 50 million people got the shots.
    Healthcare providers and pharmacies such as CVS Health will start next month to offer the shot, updated to fight the Omicron version of the virus that has been dominant since last year.
    They will be fighting declining concern about the virus, as well as fatigue and skepticism about the merits of this vaccine, Kaiser Family Foundation Director of Survey Methodology Ashley Kirzinger said.
    “Public health officials, if they want to see a majority of adults get these annual vaccines, they’re going to have to make the case to the American public that COVID isn’t over and it still poses a risk to them,” Kirzinger said.
    The top reason vaccinated people gave in KFF surveys earlier this year for eschewing annual shots was they believed they had protection from the virus because of previous shots or infections, she said.
    COVID-19 vaccine makers have pared back expectations for this fall’s vaccination campaign, with Pfizer – the largest maker of mRNA shots with BioNTech – recently warning that it might need to cut jobs if it does not do well. Its biggest rival, Moderna, conceded demand could be as few as 50 million shots.
    Last year, Pfizer and Moderna’s vaccine sales topped $56 billion worldwide; analysts project around $20 billion for this year.

    Jefferies analyst Michael Yee said he does not expect the autumn campaign to reach last year’s.

    • Rodster says:

      Nothing like selling fear and hysteria. George Carlin had a skit about germs and how Americans panic easily. The skit was made for a 90’s HBO special. He was WAY ahead of his time.

    • Maybe at least some people are starting to question whether these shots really work, and whether the unknown side effects are worth the price.

      Trust in modern medicine has to be falling to some extent. If nothing else, the elderly don’t want to risk being locked up in their care homes for months on end. They will delay going to “assisted living” or a nursing home, for as long as possible.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Uptake is driven by ad/PR spend…

      All they need to do is ramp up the fear on cnnbbc and the MOREONS will be queued up at the Walmart parking lots anxious to get More Safe and More Effective.

      And they think they have democracy hahaha…

  7. Mirror on the wall says:

    Oh dear, John Bolton reckons that UKR is going to lose.

    Former USA National Security Advisor John Bolton has called out Biden’s debacle in UKR. The sanctions have failed, NATO did not have a clue what it was doing with military aid to UKR, it was scared of Russia, the UKR offensive has flopped, Russia is slapping UKR around, and it is only a matter of time before Russia wins. Bolton reckons that he would have done better sanctions and military aid to UKR.

    Biden Bungled Ukraine Operation? “U.S. Only Delaying Kyiv’s Defeat,” Says Former U.S. NSA | Details

    Former U.S. National Security Advisor called out Washington’s Ukraine policy. John Bolton said that Biden’s policy on the Ukraine war only delays Kyiv’s defeat. Bolton stated that Ukraine’s failures and Russia’s successes share a common cause. Bolton’s remarks come as Russian forces continue to outperform the Ukrainian Army. Russia says that Ukraine has been fruitless attempts since June.

    • Yet, US news sources don’t talk about possible loss or retreat. The WSJ is reporting (nowhere near the list of top news items):

      Ukraine Inches Forward in Southeastern Counteroffensive
      Kyiv’s forces advanced into a village and launched a successful raid over the Dnipro River

      • I notice that Zerohedge is reporting that the Washington Post is talking more about the real situation:

        https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukrainians-begin-despair-bloody-counteroffensive-yields-small-gains

        According to the Washington Post, many citizens of Ukraine are adopting a darker mood about the war with Russia, and national unity is beginning to fray. The change in sentiment comes as Kiev’s spring counteroffensive fails to retake significant territory despite surging casualties.

        “Ukrainians, much in need of good news, are simply not getting any,” the Washington Post reported Thursday. One Ukrainian, Alla Blyzniuk, interviewed by the outlet, said, “[before] people were united.” Now, she described, a sense of collective “disappointment.”

        The sense of despair is driven by massive casualties in Kiev’s counteroffensive. Blyzniuk said that most soldiers sent to the front die in just two to three days.

  8. Mirror on the wall says:

    Alexander discusses the current fall in the value of the Ruble from 9 mins in.

    It now suits Russia that the Ruble is falling against USD and EURO. Russia is doing a ‘dirty float’ to manipulate its value. Russia was not importing last year, oil prices were high, Russia was in recession and was recovering from sanctions, so a strong Ruble made sense to lower inflation and the Ruble became very strong which stabilised the financial system and did not affect the budget.

    Russian economy is now surging, there are signs of overheating, imports are risings, export revenues are falling, as oil prices fell, as Russia had been pumping with discounts to secure share of the market. Now, fall in energy revenues mean a sharp fall in trade surplus and the current account in Q2 2023, and Russia will not allow the current account to go into deficit.

    So, Russia is now cutting oil production, with Saudis that is raising oil prices, and grain deal is gone which places Russia in a strong position for grain exports, so more Rubles will be got from oil by allowing value of Ruble to fall and food exports are more competitive, produced cheaply in Rubles and sold abroad in other currencies.

    So, trade surplus will strengthen and current account will rebound in Q3/ 4, imports will be choked off which will lower heat in the economy (interest rates are also raised) and the budget is strengthened as more receipts are got from oil and food exports. The budget is likely to return to balance or a small surplus in Q4.

    So, it suits Russia to allow the Ruble to temporarily fall, will not much harm domestic economy, small rise in inflation, which is very low now and Russia has room to let it happen. Russia has done this before, and will do it again. It has handled the situation with exports and with oil revenues, with grain, and with Ruble with accustomed skill.

  9. I AM THE MOB says:

    Germany considers ban on far-Right AfD

    Germany is debating whether to ban the far-Right Alternative for Germany (AfD) as the party surges to 21 per cent in the polls, amid warnings from intelligence officials that its members are becoming increasingly extreme.

    Frank-Walter Steinmeier, the German president, warned in a speech to the country’s domestic intelligence agency that “we all have it in our hands to put those who despise our democracy in their place”.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/08/13/afd-party-ban-germany-far-right-extremists/

    • drb753 says:

      This is a normal trajectory, no? Plus Frankwalter and the rest of the crew are deserving of the punishment that will now be justified in the eyes of millions.

    • When views are too far apart, governments want to ban the view that it considers “wrong.”

      • FiatJustitiaEtPereatMundus says:

        “Too far apart”
        Come on Gail, this explanation almost sounds Kamala-esque.

        In reality we have the majority of the population being willing slaves. All they want is to NOT be forced to think so the billionaires (and their puppets in govt) only provide the desired service.

        Remember that Nazi Germany provided cyanide pills in the eve of defeat and 60k people used them (.1% of the population). With american propaganda and can-do attitude we already have that number every year (the jab’s mortality is .1% per year).

        I predict exponential growth (for a while) in this factory of death. “Climate change” should generate about 1% death per year. Next scamdemic 10% etc.

        What I don’t understand is why people here don’t encourage that? Why stop people from committing suicide? If you believe people have free will, the correct reaction is to thank them for their sacrifice – just remember that traditionally nazis they either kill themselves or kill YOU.

    • marromai says:

      As a German I can describe you the kind of “far right extremists”, that would vote for AfD: Citizens who speak out against uncontrolled migration, against the shutdown of needed power plants, and against government intrusion into every detail of private life, such as mandating heat pumps as only valid source for heating….

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  11. hillcountry says:

    The irony of the SolarWinds hack is that since 2017, the industry vehemently fought against modifying CIP standards to require detection, mitigation and removal of malware from the electric grid.[25] While fighting this common-sense petition for rulemaking, the head of NERC testified in 2019 that he didn’t know whether there was Russian or Chinese equipment or software already installed in the grid.[26] SolarWinds was first detected in 2020 but to this day, thanks to the industry’s diligent efforts, there is no requirement that malware be detected, mitigated or removed.

    https://securethegrid.com/critical-electric-infrastructure-the-government-must-step-up-2/

    When I read that I thought, who needs a Carrington Event when there’s this level of dysfunction? It could be argued that individuals take better care of their personal computers than the country does its electric grid. Any notion that our nation can’t afford hardening and protecting the grid is belied by this little tidbit in Michael Mabee’s response to the DOE’s Request for Information of April 2021:

    In the last decade the electric utility industry has spent $1.2 billion lobbying the U.S. Congress and another $150 million in “contributions.” (Not including lobbying and contributions at the state level.) Imagine if this $1.2 billion, which largely originated from the bills of ratepayers, was put towards electric grid security rather than lobbying against further regulation.

    • ivanislav says:

      I briefly saw text on this page that said something about “retired electronics engineer” before it disappeared and now I can’t find it. Did you make a post that got deleted or something? I’m starting to question whether there is a ghost in the machine.

    • The electric grid was set up assuming that each city (or other small area) would generate its own electricity. The only connections between cities were to handle temporary disturbances. Funding for the grid was set up locally, too. They system was like a system of small country roads, but the equivalent in power lines.

      The major exception to this was longer distance lines for hydroelectric power, because it was distant from population centers. These transmission lines are now often in disrepair (In California, they cause fires), because they were added many years ago and have not been upgraded.

      Trying to upgrade the system would be a nightmare. We have tried to add long distance transmission but it takes many years to get lines approved. Then there are questions of materials needed, and who pays for them. Wind and solar should pay for them, but it becomes impossible to get the charges back to them.

      A lot of hoped-for solar and wind is backlogged because there is no way of connecting it to the grid, near term.

      Total electricity generation per capita has been falling in the “rich” nations of the world.

      https://ourfiniteworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Electricity-Generation-Per-Capita-US-Japan-EU-1024×617.png

      Electricity generation per capita has been growing in poor countries. Many of these countries use coal to generate their electricity.
      https://ourfiniteworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Electricity-Generation-Per-Capita-OECD-non-OECD-1024×628.png

      These countries do the world’s manufacturing.

      • Keith Henson says:

        “Total electricity generation per capita has been falling in the “rich” nations of the world.”

        That makes sense, the lighting load has gone way down with more efficient lights, laptops draw much less than desktops and even AC has improved efficiency.

        “growing in poor countries. ”

        That makes sense too since they started so low.

  12. ivanislav says:

    USDRUB up another 1.2% right now (100.75 rubles to the dollar). The situation is serious and if this behavior continues another few weeks it will will be critical. This is basket-case banana republic third world currency behavior.

    https://www.tradingview.com/symbols/USDRUB/

    • ivanislav says:

      101.15 – I’m watching this thing jump around like crazy in real time

      NSA et al defeated Russia’s banking encryption and is destroying them from inside or Russia has criminals in charge of their financial system

      • hillcountry says:

        yeah, just saw a big spike at 9:48 UTC, the chart showed it but it isn’t recorded like the one at 4:00 UTC.

        “NSA et al defeated Russia’s banking encryption and is destroying them from inside or Russia has criminals in charge of their financial system”

        Maybe both conditions are necessary?

      • hillcountry says:

        There’s a really dramatic spike and decline on the 5-year chart from Feb to June 2022. There’s quite a ways to go to match that one.

      • hillcountry says:

        looks like the major ramp-up began August 11, when it was 97

      • ivanislav says:

        Bouncing between 101 and 102+, this is as close to free-fall as you can get without a military coup.

        • drb753 says:

          I hear diesel will increase 10 rubles (to 67/liter) around september 1. Russian ag products flying off the shelves.

          • ivanislav says:

            From what I understand, you work in that industry, so perhaps it’s not so bad for you. But surely you realize that currency devaluation has all sorts of ill effects, direct and indirect.

            • drb753 says:

              I don’t see it. I could agree that one bad effect is the price increase in building materials, but people are building like crazy and now my builder is asking for complete plans a month ahead because those are flying off the shelves too.

              I can concur about cell phones. My Galaxy cost 999 rubles in Sept. 2021, now there is nothing below 4000 rubles.

    • ivanislav says:

      https://www.rt.com/business/581233-ruble-slide-russian-economy/

      Today’s article that boils down to “please don’t worry or lose confidence in the ruble”. A week or so ago a similar article was posted along the lines of “don’t worry, it will stabilize at 90”.

      >> Despite the ruble’s sharp depreciation, President Vladimir Putin’s economic adviser, Maksim Oreshkin, said on Monday he expects the Russian currency to stabilize, noting that the central bank “has all the tools” to normalize the situation in the near future.

    • I am no fan of Russia but the Ruble is not a trading currency and Russia is only trading with its friends so doesn’t really matter too much now

      • ivanislav says:

        If your currency is undervalued, it means others can get stuff for free (less than fair value). Russia loves to give away everything of value for free. 23 billion USD to buy some African votes recently.

  13. Fast Eddy says:

    Humans hahaha https://t.me/leaklive/15507

  14. Tim Groves says:

    There’s your climate criminal Poirot!”… Sorry, I mean Norman!

    * * * * * * *

    Evidence suggests one factor contributing to the above average heat many parts of the globe are experiencing this summer is the undersea eruption of the Hunga Tonga-Hunga Haʻapai volcano.

    Both NASA and the European Space Agency are reporting that the eruption ejected enough water into the atmosphere to temporarily raise the Earth’s temperature.

    Peer reviewed studies have estimated that Hunga Tonga-Hunga Haʻapai’s eruption added the equivalent of 10 percent to 13 percent of the pre-existing water vapor into the upper atmosphere, between 8 and 33 miles above the Earth’s surface where it will remain for years to come.

    Although little acknowledged or discussed, water vapor rather than carbon dioxide makes up as much as 98 percent or more of the greenhouse gases in the atmosphere by volume. As such, adding an additional 10 to 13 percent to the atmospheric load of water vapor in the short three months studies estimate it took to disperse and mix across the globe is bound to have a significant effect on measured temperatures, which recent studies have acknowledged.

    Concerning the impact of Hunga Tonga-Hunga Haʻapai’s eruption researchers at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory wrote:

    Volcanic eruptions rarely inject much water into the stratosphere. In the 18 years that NASA has been taking measurements, only two other eruptions—the 2008 Kasatochi event in Alaska and the 2015 Calbuco eruption in Chile—sent appreciable amounts of water vapor to such high altitudes. But those were mere blips compared to the Tonga event, and the water vapor from both previous eruptions dissipated quickly. The excess water vapor injected by the Tonga volcano, on the other hand, could remain in the stratosphere for several years.

    This extra water vapor could influence atmospheric chemistry, boosting certain chemical reactions that could temporarily worsen depletion of the ozone layer. It could also influence surface temperatures. Massive volcanic eruptions like Krakatoa and Mount Pinatubo typically cool Earth’s surface by ejecting gases, dust, and ash that reflect sunlight back into space. In contrast, the Tonga volcano didn’t inject large amounts of aerosols into the stratosphere, and the huge amounts of water vapor from the eruption may have a small, temporary warming effect, since water vapor traps heat.

    When was the last time, amidst the thousands of stories blaming climate change for the current heatwave, you saw a headline in the mainstream media, “Volcanic Eruption Causes Summer Heatwave”? I’ve seen not one.

    • It seems like it would take a change such as this to explain the big change in the temperature in oceans this years. Such a change is not in the range expected based on past historical patterns.

  15. Fast Eddy says:

    Outstanding!!! https://t.me/TommyRobinsonNews/50421

    • Lastcall says:

      This is, without doubt, simply the best compilation of clowns, EVER!
      Nice find.
      There has to be a name for that ‘Face’, which seems to be consistent, which occurs just at that moment of collapse.
      The 60 mins dude is my pick of the dunces.

  16. I AM THE MOB says:

    They will not force us
    They will stop degrading us
    They will not control us
    We will be victorious

    • Ed says:

      This requires being organized. No global, not nation, not state. Just simple local town organized. Organized to do whatever is needed. Including surveil the enemy, communicate with the team, make plans for actions (all of course peaceful and legal, we would of course never use violence against those trying to kill us, because we are slaves to Klaus Schwab).

    • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

      “They will not force us
      They will stop degrading us
      They will not control us
      We will be victorious”

      ooh look it’s song lyrics.

      so it surely must cohere with Reality.

      sssssarc!

      I hope their fans enjoy the music anyway.

  17. Ed says:

    Yes vax bad but the big issue we have lost our freedoms and our rights. Or, rather we have our G_d given rights but our governments have turned dictatorial and deny us our free exercise of our rights.

    This gives them the power to just start killing people at will.

  18. Fast Eddy says:

    Brain Cancers after Pfizer mRNA Jabs
    We know Endotoxin travels immediately from the mRNA jabs and penetrates the Brain causing acute effects. What do we know about Brain Cancer after the jabs?

    https://geoffpain.substack.com/p/brain-cancers-after-pfizer-mrna-jabs

    • I wonder how much of a lag is expected. Maybe it is an increase in brain cancer later. I didn’t find much of an overall increase in cancer.

    • The WSJ has an editorial saying something close to what I am saying:

      Covid Lockdowns and Cancer
      Late diagnosis and delayed care have led to more stage 4 disease.

      A new study in the Lancet finds that patients were more likely to be diagnosed with advanced cancer in 2020 following delays and disruptions in non-Covid healthcare. . .

      While most physician offices reopened in summer 2020, many faced a backlog of patients, which delayed screenings, exams and treatment. Some patients also delayed doctors’ visits for symptoms that may have been caused by undiagnosed cancers because they were afraid of catching Covid.

      As a result, patients were 5.4% less likely to be diagnosed with a stage 1 cancer and 7.4% more likely to be diagnosed with a stage 4 cancer in 2020 than in 2019, according to the Lancet study. The biggest relative increase for stage 4 disease occurred for liver (13%), stomach (13%), prostate (14%) and thyroid (19%) cancers. . .

      Age-adjusted cancer mortality increased 1.7% in 2021 after falling 17% between 2009 and 2020. Cancer deaths were 2.8% higher during the first six months of this year than in the same period in 2021.

      So, this study only goes through the first half of 2022, and the first half of 2022 was higher. My information shows that the full year is similarly higher. There must be more reason for this to happen than simply disruptions caused by lockdowns.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Yes… yesssss… and Long Covid is also causing these spikes in cancers…. (often Turbo)…

        Anything but the Rat Juice. ANYTHING!!!! But … the Rat Juice 🙂 🙂 🙂

        More Boosters for norm

        • Lack of trust in physicians; not seeing them in person as often.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            If the humans could control themselves and not stuff their faces with processed garbage… they’d not need to see their doctors cept if they broke their arms…

            But they insist.

            The missed doc appointments don’t explain away turbo cancer…I have 3 friends (not just people I know) who are boosted and experiencing turbo cancer.. one is dead… one had his entrails torn out a couple of months ago (not sure his status)… and another is still in hospital since having surgery in April. All rapidly spreading cancers

  19. Peter Cassidy says:

    I am one of those annoying gits that didn’t have the vaccine. It was offered to me numerous times. I was even threatened by my company that my career prospects may be damaged if I didn’t get vaccinated. My father told me I was stupid. But my wife had the first dose of pfizer. It made her so ill with inner ear problems that she struggled to walk for 6 months. With all of the premature deaths from heart failure racking up, I don’t feel so stupid having refused it now.

  20. Fast Eddy says:

    2/3’s of the way through https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1896302760

    • Lots of biological detail about what is going wrong with Covid and vaccines. Almost two hours long.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        The final third exposes some of the A Vaxx Thought Leaders anticipating Covid and supporting a mass vax program…

        • Did any of them think that the vax might work? Previous work done on coronaviruses were very negative on any lasting benefit.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            They didnt mention coronaviruses — they just said that if a pandemic strikes they’d support mass vaccination …

            • Rodster says:

              This time around I think fewer will take the Vax. I’m waiting for several players to collapse in the same game.

  21. I AM THE MOB says:

    “Does this mean that China and the United States are headed for what Harvard Professor Graham Allison called the “Thucydides Trap”? Named for the ancient Athenian military historian, the concept depicts the risk of war arising from the collision between a “dominant” power and a “rising” power.

    “There is no such thing as the Thucydides Trap in this world.,” said President Xi Jinping on a visit to Seattle. Yet he warned, “should major countries time and again make the mistake of strategic miscalculation, they might create such traps for themselves.”

    The New Map: Energy, Climate and the Clash of Nations (Yergin 2020)

  22. Fast Eddy says:

    And again – the response to Truth is nil https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/p/shannon-dohertys-brain-cancer-battle/comment/22275870

    Even MCM does not dare to attempt to argue against that Truth…

  23. Fast Eddy says:

    Almost no activity … this is what happens when MOREONS – who insist they want the Truth — are given the Truth https://sagehana.substack.com/p/how-fdrs-1933-gold-executive-orders/comment/22288157

    The A Vaxxers were having so much fun… high fiving each other as they exposed Malone etc… then kill joy FE intruded with the Truth….

    And despair flooded across the Sage SS…. cuz deep down they know Fast Eddy is right…

    Which perfectly demonstrates the theme of that comment… they do NOT want Truth – they cannot handle Truth… the Elders will run them around by their noses cuz they are cockroaches.. lab rats…

    A Vaxxers are marginally different from Vaxxers… they are captured

    • Something is very wrong when bankers start giving loans to people who clearly cannot repay them. (2008)

      • Jan says:

        Why? In the sense of a sustainable system? Looks like jeust some other kind of helicopter money. What concerns me more is, that the energetic investment to build suburbs is not useful for re-use.

        If you look to Hjalmar Schacht and his “Mefo-Wechsel” (bill of exchange) it seems to be possible to “print money” and isolate it to avoid inflation.

        I suspect that the whole financial markets may have the same effect like the Mefo bills.

        The very expensive covid injections that dont require as much investment into production facilities might serve the same purpose. The beneficiaries will invest in any imaginary value that for some time is freely convertable.

        All that a generation can accumulate is the equivalent of their work. Perhaps some useful infrastructure can be added like pyramids, aquaeducts and afforested areas. So when the financial markets grow it must be clear a cash up can never be made. All is a bet on the future development.

        I guess the idea for the future is, that the Indian farmer plants his handfull of rice paying huge royalities for the seed while on the other hand he has large income generated by CO2 certificates. An economy without the need of fossiles, if the digital infrastructure is neglected.

        I doubt that is efficient and possible but it may serve the purpose for some years!

  24. MG says:

    What value has got a rational belief in the healing or damaging power of the vaccines?

    The belief is irrational, like believing in St. George and the dragon: the people like this small church in my vicinity just because of its Franciscan cuteness and surely, because of this fairytale about St. George:

    https://foto.turistika.cz/foto/11507/120967/dsc-0431.jpg

    That way the Franciscans could beat the Luther reformation in my area which adhered to the Bible text, that is no scientific paper, and rejected the decoration with the human-like fantastic figures.

    We want a nicer reality.

  25. hillcountry says:

    Prices of gallium and germanium rise as China export controls loom.
    US warns domestic chip suppliers will feel the pain

    https://www.theregister.com/2023/07/27/prices_of_gallium_and_germanium_rise/

    USA Rare Earth Works To Address Severe Shortage Of U.S. Minerals

    https://prosperousamerica.org/usa-rare-earth-works-to-address-severe-shortage-of-u-s-minerals/

    A looming shortage of critical minerals is a huge challenge facing the U.S. and all industrial nations outside of China. The rare earth family of minerals is one example of the problem. Rare earths are used to manufacture permanent magnets, key components of the motors that power electric vehicles. Rare earths also figure in motors and other devices in fighter jets and other weapons.

    Mining and manufacturing startup USA Rare Earth is working hard to launch a permanent magnet production line next year. With a 310,000 square foot facility in Oklahoma and intellectual property acquired from Hitachi USA, USA Rare Earth (USARE) will launch with the capability to produce 1200 tons of magnets a year, rising to 4800 tons soon after.

    The average electric vehicle has about 10 lbs. of magnets in its motors. So USARE’s planned maximum production of nearly 10 million lbs. of magnets could power about one million EVs. Other producers, including mighty General Motors with its new Ultium brand, are also investing in the production of motors. But today the U.S. produces about 13 million motor vehicles a year. With auto companies and Washington politicians talking about moving rapidly to a nationwide fleet that is over half EVs, USARE chief executive Tom Schneberger says the entire industry is already supply-constrained.

    “The world outside China will be 40% undersupplied [in rare earth minerals, lithium, and permanent magnets] for at least a decade,” says Schneberger. That’s a dire prognosis for EV makers, for the Biden administration’s climate ambitions, and for U.S. consumers who will end up paying more for products containing those minerals. It’s also bad news for national security since virtually every military vehicle uses rare earths and is likely to use lithium batteries in the near future.

    • I expect that a shortage of rare earth minerals for making magnets is not the only constraint holding production back. I expect that these magnet making plants will use a lot of electricity themselves, and of course the plug-in EVs will need a huge amount of electricity. Where do we expect to get this electricity from? Huge improvements to the grid will be needed, besides more supply. How will this ever take place?

      • hillcountry says:

        Given the branch of the super-organism called the USA can’t even manage to secure the grid it has managed to build – aka, the largest machine in the world – it is doubtful that the EV pipedream is anything more than gaslighting ourselves.

        Gail, have you run across these Secure the Grid folks?

        https://securethegrid.com/critical-electric-infrastructure-the-government-must-step-up-2/

        What is most shocking about this 1981 GAO report is that in 2021 there is still no physical security requirement for most of the critical electric infrastructure. The one NERC standard that exists, CIP-14-2, exempts generation facilities, does not apply to distribution and applies to very few facilities in the bulk power system. Moreover, there have been 721 physical attacks against the critical electric infrastructure since 2010.[6] In sum, in 2021 there are still no meaningful physical security requirements for the electric grid.[7]

        Since the industry and the regulators haven’t addressed the physical security of our critical electric infrastructure in four decades, extraordinary leadership is needed now to get the job done.

        Another example is the lack of supply chain cybersecurity requirements. With the recent SolarWinds and Colonial Pipeline cyberattacks, there is no need to belabor the threats posed by cyberattacks to the energy sector. However, between 2006 and 2019, according to data from the U.S. International Trade Commission, the U.S. imported 300 “Liquid dielectric transformers having a power handling capacity exceeding 10,000 kVA” from China.[8]

        At least 200 of these Chinese large power transformers found their way into our electric grid.[9] Others may have been bought by large industries, but it is certain that most of these 300 Chinese large power transformers have embedded themselves in our critical infrastructures in the U.S. There is no requirement that anybody check these hundreds of transformers that have already been installed. There is no supply chain cybersecurity requirement on the thousands of companies that may buy components for the critical electric infrastructure from China.[10]

        To summarize the problem: We are buying critical equipment from China to install into our critical electric infrastructure that China is already hacking.

        What could possibly go wrong?

        • Keith Henson says:

          “At least 200 of these Chinese large power transformers ”

          I would not worry about it. A big power transformer is a lot of copper, iron, insulators, and oil. No microprocessors or software, nothing to subvert.

          That might change in the next generation where the proposal is to raise the frequency to reduce the amount of iron and copper. But none of these have been installed yet.

        • ivanislav says:

          If this infrastructure security stuff interests you, check out the Dawn Project by Dan O’Dowd. It mostly gets press because he criticizes Tesla FSD, but the goal of the project is broader: to secure critical infrastructure against hacking.

      • hillcountry says:

        More mind-numbing as a clear and present danger than Fast Eddy’s thesis, read the section under this title:

        The second challenge is the electric utility industry itself.

  26. Dennis L. says:

    Inflation/deflation?

    Inflation is current, this is a historical measurement from a period past; it is not forward looking.

    Chinese export revenue is falling which implies to me demand is depressed.

    Services(a synonym for labor) are increasing in price but people are more and more having to work multiple jobs to make ends meet, are many making increased wages? UPS seems to be doing so for one.

    This site sees energy/capita declining which implies capital assets can be used less and hence have a lower rate of return which means NPV is less than assumed – deflation. An oil well is an example of a “sunk” cost, couldn’t resist.

    Heard locally of some farmland selling for $22k/acre, have a verified(two different reliable parties) of about $14K/acre. I was in Iowa in 1980’s, farm income tanked as did land prices. Repeat? My guess, high probability land is at a peak as it cannot cover carrying costs. This is a similar problem with gold. Diesel is a major cost of running machinery.

    There is a fellow, Gabe Brown, in the Dakotas who is preaching regenerative agriculture with emphasis on the difference between top and bottom lines not gross revenue. He may have a point, problem is production declines and number of mouths to feed are increasing. If land produces less per acre, then that value of capital should decrease. It is currently so extended, that is not a bad bet.

    My guess is deflation, time will tell. Starship needs to work. So, on the boards with two hard guesses, make both a 12 month time line to verify. Note, Starship and Space X are deflationary in launch costs due to reusability, they are becoming a monopoly.

    Now about 500 billionaires in the US, say fifty years ago there were 20 or so; them thats got get.

    No matter what, the next couple of years will be challenging to use a currently popular euphemism. Worse for those who had to take the jab, odds aren’t terrible, but not helpful.

    Dennis L.

    • Cromagnon says:

      I consulted with a very very bright, very very ambitious agricultural venture capitalist the past few days. They have expanded massively into extremely marginal lowland scrub/swamp land near our inland freshwater seas. 64,000 acres…they are using D10 caterpillar dozers to clear scrub poplar,, then heavy disc, then heavy fertilizer to grow corn silage to feed to beef cattle………

      They recognize that their costs are too high so they took out permits to allow intensive hog barn erection so as to utilize hog effluent to fertilize corn……

      They want 15,000 cows being calved intensively year round in a climate that is akin to northern Siberia.

      I am old now, so I have learned diplomacy…..

      I told them very diplomatically that the Chinese investors just want their money laundered…they don’t actually care if any of this makes money….which it won’t…..

      It like watching a somewhat dimwitted (but highly trained) dog chase its own tail.

      There really is no hope at all for a reasonable future.

    • Peter Cassidy says:

      Musk believes that the cost of Starship could eventually drop to $1million per launch. That works at $10/kg delivered to low Earth orbit. If he succeeds, this would represent a factor of 3000 decline in launch cost since the heady days of the space shuttle. These sorts of cost reductions would allow private individuals to fund space missiins.

      I ran the sums on the fuel consumption of Starship. It will burn 3400 tonnes of propellant per launch.
      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX_Starship

      Raptor engines burn liquid oxygen and methane, 3.6:1 by mass. So each launch requires some 739 tonnes of liquefied natural gas. By comparison, the world burns some 2.6 billion tonnes of natural gas each year.

      Human space activities could be scaled up enormously and propellant energy costs would still be lost in the rounding errors in total human energy consumption. The idea that we shouldn’t waste energy on space activities because fossil fuels are depleting, is completely bogus. It is even more foolish when one considers that space industries building solar power satellites could be a big part of the solution to humanities energy needs.

      • Dennis, I’ll admit I have lost the plot. Refresh my poor memory: why would we want to ship 100,000 of kg of anything into low-earth orbit, exactly?

        • Keith Henson says:

          “why would we want”

          *If* we decided power satellites are a good idea, one of them takes about 50,000 tons of parts and reaction mass to move it to GEO. That’s 500 flights of a starship.

          If SpaceX can get the cost down to $10/kg, then power satellites can supply energy at around 1.5 cents per kWh. That’s less than PV solar and it is not intermittent.

          • So you are imagining the outer-space staging and assembly of 500 loads composing 50,000 tons of varied and complex materials?

            I can barely get my carpenters to organize and stage a load of flooring here in a barn on terra firma.

            Your faith in this sort of enterprise appears truly religious.

            Do you imagine this material being assembled by humans, or some kind of robots (which would themselves have to be assembled, staged, deployed, etc.)? Or maybe it will be “self-assembling”…. ?

            • Keith Henson says:

              “Do you imagine this material being assembled by humans, ”

              No. The space junk makes it just about impossible to assemble power satellites below 2000 km. At 2000 and above you are in the lower Van Allen belt and the radiation will kill unshielded humans in single digit hours.

              So it has to be robots or teleoperation.

              And the robots have to be radiation resistant.

              Never said this was simple.

            • but purpose keith??

              still that nagging purpose of it all

              are we to to consume a coffee maker every month or two?

        • Dennis L. says:

          lidia,

          We want to move manufacturing, mining and exogenous energy(other than periodic solar) off earth and let earth manage spaceship earth. We are not smart enough and earth has a history of doing fine.

          We want manufacturing pollution from refining, etc. to stay in space and for that a nudge towards Jupiter will work jvery well. Jupiter collects errant asteroids on a regular basis.

          Earth is self replicating biology, that is very unique. In space we want to build mechanical, small scale ribosomes which in biology can build ribosomes themselves.

          Biology may well be the apex, the earth is very well although at times imperfectly suited for biology; it is to quote Gail, “Self Regulating.”

          My prediction is there is nothing biology can do to harm planetary space, junk hits planets all the time with only a bit of wear and tear, see dinosaurs. Space is idiot proof.

          Mechanical stuff makes life convenient, but it is in the logical sense not necessary nor is it sufficient. Some of it is also not beneficial, a certain jab probably falls into that category.

          Dennis L.

      • Lastcall says:

        For a limited time only, grab one now …
        ‘The Kessler Syndrome is a phenomenon in which the amount of junk in orbit around Earth reaches a point where it just creates more and more space debris, causing big problems for satellites, astronauts and mission planners. ‘

        This too will end in tears.

    • I think you are right that the value of the farmland will fall. This could show up as deflation.

      Or, if government can stay in control, it may try to print more and more money, to try to keep values up, and keep debt from defaulting. But this money won’t really buy much of anything. The result will be hyperinflation that doesn’t really buy much. Trading partners will not provide much, if anything, in return for this printed money. So the land will not be worth much, but the supposed dollar value could sort of remain. The problem is that you will have a hard time buying two loaves of bread with the dollar value of the farmland.

    • Jan says:

      There are several methods to sustainably grow food on small areas. All of these methods can feed more people than just hunting what lives in the forests or following some yt videos how to grow food on the balcony. The problem: it takes time and knowledge to develop such systems. An apple tree does not grow in 2 months.

      As in the actual economy such areas can hardly deliver any profits, they must be excluded from the economic organisation as reservates, protection of religious minorities, leasure areas, research areas, nature protection or sponsorship. Some countries have managed to establish a large market share for high prices bio products which might be a compromise.

      If we do not develop such projects the bottleneck will become tighter and less people can survive a crash or a cascade of smaller steps down to “levels of less complexity”. Because the less surplus we have the lesser is the opportunity to experiment. It is a question of the timeframe we envision.

      The estimated numbers of world population nearly doubles with the Early Middleages. This is very likely based on the use of metal tools in agriculture, mineral residue from the the mining process and trade. The European forests were plundered to make this possible (including luxury needings by the elite). When the forests were exhausted coal jumped in.

      I would like to argue that Earth’s carrying capacity is not a fixed value but depends on what humans do.

      I don’t give a penny for starship et al. Too high levels of complexity. Perhaps I am wrong. In nature there are competing systems and strategies. I our reality these competing systems are replaced by a monopolistic economy. I think we should create this competition artificially.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Spent fuel ponds

      • hillcountry says:

        “All of these methods can feed more people than just hunting what lives in the forests…”

        Reports from the Nisqually tribe in Washington certainly confirm that for the river they’ve fished since arriving in the region (Nisqually river). Whereas the salmon catch was 100 an hour long ago, recently it was only 3 in one day.

      • Dennis L. says:

        “As in the actual economy such areas can hardly deliver any profits, they must be excluded from the economic organisation as reservates, protection of religious minorities, leasure areas, research areas, nature protection or sponsorship. Some countries have managed to establish a large market share for high prices bio products which might be a compromise.”

        Jan,
        The “they must be excluded….” suggests we can control and are in control, free will if you like. That may well be correct, my thesis is “they” are in control 20% of the time for 80% of the results. We only discover the fabric of the universe and then only historically, the present universe is millions perhaps billions of years ahead of us, we will uncover that knowledge in due time. Information appears to travel at the speed of light despite entanglement which is apparently more correlation.

        Not a philosopher, but to me “free will.” means we are free to discover both that which works and that which does not. The problem is the 80/20 rule, one needs to uncover the 20% which works. Even the Gods are not that good, they throw loaded dice and are happy with 20%. If a star has to go supernova once in a while, so be it.

        Dennis L.

        • Best line I’ve heard on the free-will argument is that we’re free to do what we want, but we’re not free to want what we want. Schopenhauer? Spinoza?

          Dennis, I don’t think we are bright enough to know what “works” and what doesn’t. We keep doing things we know *don’t* work to improve our lot, and many things we do that *do* improve our lot are short-sighted. Something that works in the short term ends up not working in the long term, but you need to survive the short term even to consider getting to the long term. We’re stuck with this paradox, and we are not in control of it, not 20% in control, not 10% in control.. maybe 1% just to not be too fatalistic.

    • David says:

      There are also Joel Salatin in Virginia and Richard Perkins in Sweden.
      All of them are approaching regenerative farming in very different ways, but all seem to be successful and all have a strong online presence, which makes it easier to find what they’re up to.

      Sir Julian Rose, a UK aristocrat and organic farmer, has done several online interviews, e.g. with Richard Vobes. Rose seems to have woken up early to what 2020 was all about.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        What I find amazing is that a doomie prepper can be prepping with a pond within a couple of hundred miles of his location — and when I show him this — he’ll dismiss it as no concern — or say that there is a mountain between him and the pond…

        I guess it’s kinda like how Vaxxers think the Vax stops them from getting Covid (even though even Pfizer says no to that) that the masks are like the mountain.

        hahahahaha … intelligent!!!

        There are 4000 Spent Fuel Ponds Around the Globe…

        If you don’t cool the spent fuel, the temperature will rise and there may be a swift chain reaction that leads to spontaneous combustion–an explosion and fire of the spent fuel assemblies. Such a scenario would emit radioactive particles into the atmosphere. Pick your poison. Fresh fuel is hotter and more radioactive, but is only one fuel assembly. A pool of spent fuel will have dozens of assemblies.

        One report from Sankei News said that there are over 700 fuel assemblies stored in one pool at Fukushima. If they all caught fire, radioactive particles—including those lasting for as long as a decade—would be released into the air and eventually contaminate the land or, worse, be inhaled by people. “To me, the spent fuel is scarier. All those spent fuel assemblies are still extremely radioactive,” Dalnoki-Veress says.

        It has been known for more than two decades that, in case of a loss of water in the pool, convective air cooling would be relatively ineffective in such a “dense-packed” pool. Spent fuel recently discharged from a reactor could heat up relatively rapidly to temperatures at which the zircaloy fuel cladding could catch fire and the fuel’s volatile fission product, including 30-year half-life Cs, would be released. The fire could well spread to older spent fuel. The long-term land-contamination consequences of such an event could be significantly worse than those from Chernobyl.
        http://science.time.com/2011/03/15/a-new-threat-in-japan-radioactive-spent-fuel/

        Japan’s chief cabinet secretary called it “the devil’s scenario.” Two weeks after the 11 March 2011 earthquake and tsunami devastated the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant, causing three nuclear reactors to melt down and release radioactive plumes, officials were bracing for even worse. They feared that spent fuel stored in pools in the reactor halls would catch fire and send radioactive smoke across a much wider swath of eastern Japan, including Tokyo.
        https://energyskeptic.com/2017/the-devils-scenario-near-miss-at-fukushima-is-a-warning-for-u-s/

        The Chernobyl accident was relatively minor, involved no spent fuel ponds, and was controlled by pouring cement onto the reactor. This was breaking down so a few years back they re-entombed.

        Estimates of the cancer burden in Europe from radioactive fallout from the Chernobyl accident

        https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16628547/

        However, many of the radioactive elements in spent fuel have long half-lives. For example, plutonium-239 has a half-life of 24,000 years, and plutonium-240 has a half-life of 6,800 years. Because it contains these long half-lived radioactive elements, spent fuel must be isolated and controlled for thousands of years.

  27. Mirror on the wall says:

    HT has picked up on Kupyansk. UKR actually ordered the evacuation of Kupyansk and dozens of villages either side of the Oskil River some days ago. Kupyansk sits on its left bank. Russia seems to aim to take the entire Kharkiv oblast in NE UKR.

    NATO was reported to have discussed an agreement to ‘freeze’ the conflict to borders that would contain Russia to east of the Oskil, but no move was made and in any case, the conflict seems likely to play itself out.

    The UKR offensive seems to have largely played itself out, without any significant gains but much loss of manpower and equipment, and the initiative seems to have shifted to Russia for the several weeks that remain before the muddy season bogs things down.

    Ukrainians Flee As Russia Advances Towards Kharkiv; Kupyansk Residents Evacuated Amid Fighting

    Ukraine said it has evacuated over 200 people from the Kharkiv region since August 9. The information was shared by the head of the Kharkiv Regional Military Administration. Oleg Sinegubov stated that they evacuated people from the Kupyansk district amid Russian advance. Russian troops have launched a massive assault on Kupyansk as they seek to capture it.

    • Mirror on the wall says:

      Calls for a negotiated settlement are increasing in the West, but the Kiev regime insists that Russia totally vacate UKR, which realistically is not going to happen. Russia has declared four oblasts in the east to be a part of itself now along with Crimea.

      The only question now is how much more land Russia will take before UKR folds. Prof. Mearsheimer reckons that Russia will take the next four oblasts from Kharkiv down to Odessa and more along the north; other analysts suggest that Russia may storm its way to the Dnieper in the centre.

      Any window to negotiate a settlement that would have confined Russia to the east of the Oskil seems to have closed, and Russia is now pushing forward into Kharkiv. Poland has been warned not to enter west UKR, which would escalate things even further westward.

      Kiev now publicises its fears that the West will simply pull the plug on arms for UKR this autumn. But if a UKR ‘total victory’ is not realistically possible then NATO may have to pull the plug to try to limit the scale of the eventual losses.

      • Perhaps Zelensky can see that aid from the West will become less abundant as time goes on. But those in charge can still skim money/resources off the top, and thus they have less motivation to negotiate under these circumstances. Also, is this what the US really wants?

        • Mirror on the wall says:

          Right, USA has tried it on in UKR in the hope of collapsing Russia but NATO cannot sustain the attrition.

          The UKR offensive is all flopped out and Russia is on the advance.

          It is a massive NATO debacle, one of a growing list including the entire Arab Spring and AFG.

          It is a massive egg on the face, and massively damaging, however NATO tries to spin it now.

          Even now, USA seems to have no reverse gear and UKR will likely end in a massive spectacle like AFG.

          Russia has tightened with China, Europe is split from Russia, and we will have to see what damage has been done to the dollar at the end of it.

          All in all, it is a spectacular disaster for NATO.

      • Peter Cassidy says:

        Zelensky is Jewish, not Ukrainian. He was put in power by a Soros backed campaign. I wonder how much he really cares about using real Ukrainians as cannon fodder? Many in the West see him as a stoic, Churchilian hero. The reality is that it isn’t his people getting killed. So why he should he have any problem continuing this war even if losses are devastating? If Ukraine is overrun, his Soros backed freinds in America will fly him and his companions out of danger, where they can pretend to be a government in exile.

        • drb753 says:

          Correct. His third passport explains all there is to understand. Patagonia is conquered, and poor schmucks like you or me can not even see on Google Earth what is going on there (parts are blacked out like NATO bases). Ukraine is a work in progress. They always need multiple plans, and Ukraine is closer to Russia than Patagonia (which is more of an open air nuclear shelter), where resources are, waiting to do to Russia what was done to the US.

          • Ed says:

            I knew ten years ago Israeli “students” were surveying Patagonia. The Google Earth blackouts is new news. It is a good retreat after a northern hemisphere nuclear war.

  28. The UN side, i.e. the Woke side is now being pushed aside.

    However the Woke side won’t go down easily.

    They will go down with a bang.

    Anyone who has watched the movie Downfall *Untergang” knows that the control becomes strongest as a regime collapses.

    As the Soviets were marching on a Berlin state, in the next sideway the H Jugend were still hanging those who refused to join Volkstrum. BTW the effective head of H Jugend, arthur axmann, lived long after the war.

    The Woke side still controlls formidable arsenals. They are not appropriate for fighting in Ukraine but they are appropriate for end of the world battles, and they will be used.

    • ivanislav says:

      NATO walks up to Russia and points a pistol at its own head: “Bend the knee, you toxic masculine deplorable, or I’ll pull this trigger!”

      Russia: “Here, let me help you.”

      BTW, I only just saw that Russia’s PPP-normalized GDP is now bigger than Germany.

    • China has been trying awfully hard to keep control of its citizens, with their social credit scores and locking them in their apartments during a covid outbreak. Perhaps China is closer to collapse than many people understand.

      There are big differences among areas of China. Central control has not historically been very strong. I understand that a few years ago, provincial leaders were given GDP goals and significant discretion on how to meet them.

      Development has been uneven in China. The Northeast is like the US Northeast–built up long ago, but now having many aging industries. The Southeast is in some ways the strongest, but it lacks energy supplies of its own. The Northwest seems to have most problems. Too many people for resources. But it is where the wind power, solar power, and coal is coming from. It is hard for resource extraction to pay back sufficiently.

      I could imaging China breaking into smaller parts.

      • hillcountry says:

        Has Xi et.al. lost the Mandate of Heaven? Recent flooding of Beijing and reports of what came next are getting around.

      • Keith Henson says:

        “I could imaging China breaking into smaller parts.”

        Perhaps, but China has been a really big country for a very long time.

  29. Peter Cassidy says:

    Regarding the panic around ceasium contaminated seafood in Japan. This reference allows the calculation of committed dose in Sv from ingesting various radionuclides.
    https://www-pub.iaea.org/MTCD/Publications/PDF/P067_scr.pdf

    For Cs-137, the committed dose for an adult by ingestion is 1.3E-8Sv/Bq. The activity level in the contamined seafood is reported as being 14KBq/kg. What would be your effective dose, if you consumed 100 grams of this fish?

    Dose = 0.1 x 14,000 x 1.3E-8 = 0.0000182Sv

    A dose of 1Sv will knock about 1 year off of you life expectancy. Eating 100g of contaminated fish would reduce life expectancy by about 10 minutes, which is negligible. From a single helping of fish, your additional risk of dying from cancer would be about 1 in 1 million.

    But if a person was eating a lot of this contaminated fish, every day of their life, the dose and risk would start to stack up. I think it is important to know whether an activity of 14KBq/kg is typical of fish being caught in Japan, or if it is a freak outlyer that caugh media attention.

    • Peter Cassidy says:

      It would appear that this was just one fish that had unusually high ceasium levels.
      https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/radioactive-fish-discovered-near-fukushima-renews-concerns-over-plans-dump-nuclear

      If so, this is much ado about nothing. If people were routinely eating fish with activity levels this high, it could be a public health concern. But one fish does not present a health crisis.

      It has little bearing on the discharge of tritiated water by TEPCO. If this water has been carbon filtered to remove ionic contaminants, discharging it is a non-issue.

    • drb753 says:

      Peter, you need some 5 grams of potassium a day. The activity of 5 grams is about 150Bq. so Cs is about one order of magnitude higher when comparing K to a 100 grams serving. I am unimpressed. I bet that it is still better to eat 100 grams of that fish a day than to live in the Himalayas.

    • drb753 says:

      Addendum. I should have also remarked that you have about 140 grams potassium in the body. 140X150 gives 21kBq. why is 15 such a big deal if 21 is not?

  30. I AM THE MOB says:

    Chicago Public Health chief Dr. Allison Arwady FIRED — she says goodbye on Twitter

    https://chicago.suntimes.com/2023/8/11/23827860/chicago-public-health-chief-dr-allison-arwady-brandon-johnson-lightfoot

    Canning all these people who were the leaders of covid.

    Turning into the opening scene of “The Dark Knight”. (Ironically filmed in Chi Town)

    • It is difficult to get any two people to agree on which person is doing a good job, particularly when it comes to public health. Dr. Arwady wanted to send school children back to school, something that angered others.

  31. Agamemnon says:

    Wolf is positive on robots is:

    https://wolfstreet.com/2023/08/11/full-commercialization-of-robotaxis-has-arrived-in-san-francisco/#comment-535808

    Cruise and Waymo are now replacing the cost of drivers with other costs, including the much higher costs of the vehicles and the much higher costs of the people who are building, expanding, and maintaining the technology. So that equation isn’t going to be easy to work out.

  32. I AM THE MOB says:

    • Some people/organizations are going to lose money in these transactions. I am sure that many of these buildings had associated mortgages that cannot be repaid.

  33. Fast Eddy says:

    Radioactive cesium health risks

    Radioactive cesium has been detected in surface water and different kinds of food, such as breast milk and pasteurized milk. The amount of radioactive cesium in food and milk depends on several factors.

    The most important factor is whether or not there has been a recent fallout from a nuclear explosion, like a weapons test or an accident at a nuclear power plant.

    Depending on one’s level of exposure, cesium can cause diarrhea, bleeding, nausea, vomiting, coma and death.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/radioactive-fish-discovered-near-fukushima-renews-concerns-over-plans-dump-nuclear

    4000 ponds … spewing full bore… for years.. and years and years…

    Good luck Doomies hahahaha

    • Rodster says:

      Part of that story is that TEPCO wants to dump around 1.2 million gallons of radioactive water into the ocean. Not good for the ocean and the health of people.

      • Peter Cassidy says:

        If they have filtered precipitates out of the water, then there is no issue. The volume of the Pacific is enormous. The problem comes if radioisotopes can concentrate in sediments and then further concentrate in bottom feeders that humans then eat. That may be what has happened here. Our own bodies and everything we eat, drink and breath is radioactive already. But an activity of 100KBq/kg in contaminated fish is a lot.

    • The problem seems to be people or animals ingesting the particles that have fallen. Radioactive fish don’t sound good.

      • drb753 says:

        There will be a local spike which will eventually abate. The activity of the ocean dwarfs the activity of Fukushima anyway. Humanity is going through tough times in the next 30 anyway, might as well have a 30 years half life radioisotope that will disappear in time.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Let’s keep in mind the ponds at Fooky are still being managed… there is no massive release of toxic stuff into the air and water…

        But as you point out … this stuff is still getting into the bodies of the animals…

        When an animal dies — the toxics do not disappear… they get recycled… whatever eats the remains of the animal gets poisoned… and this goes on … and on … and on … and on … and on….

        For thousands of years…

        When a plant dies due to exposure to the poisons … the toxins return to the soil … and poison the soil … when the toxics fall with the rain … they poison the soil and the water table … for many thousands of years… and no – the mountains won’t block the toxics…

        Then entire planet will be poisoned. Cancer will be a … thing.

        However, many of the radioactive elements in spent fuel have long half-lives. For example, plutonium-239 has a half-life of 24,000 years, and plutonium-240 has a half-life of 6,800 years. Because it contains these long half-lived radioactive elements, spent fuel must be isolated and controlled for thousands of years.

        • Peter Cassidy says:

          Fast Eddy, the Cs-137 in the sediments was released back in 2011. There is no implication that it is presently leaking out of fuel ponds.

          The half-life of plutonium is irrelevant. Plutonium oxide is a refractory ceramic and is not released in significant amounts in core melt accidents. Ceasium is released because it is a volatile fission product and it escapes easily from damaged fuel.

          The long term radioactive contamination at Fukushima is dominated by Cs-137. It’s half life is 30 years. In the 12.3 years since the accident, about one quarter of the Cs-137 contamination has decayed. Overall activity has dropped a lot more, as shorter lived isotopes like Cs-134, with its two year half life, have largely disappeared.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            Meanwhile in RealitySTAN

            There are 4000 Spent Fuel Ponds Around the Globe…

            If you don’t cool the spent fuel, the temperature will rise and there may be a swift chain reaction that leads to spontaneous combustion–an explosion and fire of the spent fuel assemblies. Such a scenario would emit radioactive particles into the atmosphere. Pick your poison. Fresh fuel is hotter and more radioactive, but is only one fuel assembly. A pool of spent fuel will have dozens of assemblies.

            One report from Sankei News said that there are over 700 fuel assemblies stored in one pool at Fukushima. If they all caught fire, radioactive particles—including those lasting for as long as a decade—would be released into the air and eventually contaminate the land or, worse, be inhaled by people. “To me, the spent fuel is scarier. All those spent fuel assemblies are still extremely radioactive,” Dalnoki-Veress says.

            It has been known for more than two decades that, in case of a loss of water in the pool, convective air cooling would be relatively ineffective in such a “dense-packed” pool. Spent fuel recently discharged from a reactor could heat up relatively rapidly to temperatures at which the zircaloy fuel cladding could catch fire and the fuel’s volatile fission product, including 30-year half-life Cs, would be released. The fire could well spread to older spent fuel. The long-term land-contamination consequences of such an event could be significantly worse than those from Chernobyl.
            http://science.time.com/2011/03/15/a-new-threat-in-japan-radioactive-spent-fuel/

            Japan’s chief cabinet secretary called it “the devil’s scenario.” Two weeks after the 11 March 2011 earthquake and tsunami devastated the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant, causing three nuclear reactors to melt down and release radioactive plumes, officials were bracing for even worse. They feared that spent fuel stored in pools in the reactor halls would catch fire and send radioactive smoke across a much wider swath of eastern Japan, including Tokyo.
            https://energyskeptic.com/2017/the-devils-scenario-near-miss-at-fukushima-is-a-warning-for-u-s/

            The Chernobyl accident was relatively minor, involved no spent fuel ponds, and was controlled by pouring cement onto the reactor. This was breaking down so a few years back they re-entombed.

            Estimates of the cancer burden in Europe from radioactive fallout from the Chernobyl accident

            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16628547/

            However, many of the radioactive elements in spent fuel have long half-lives. For example, plutonium-239 has a half-life of 24,000 years, and plutonium-240 has a half-life of 6,800 years. Because it contains these long half-lived radioactive elements, spent fuel must be isolated and controlled for thousands of years.

  34. Fast Eddy says:

    And as I suggested –they are faking shit

    Including 2022 activity would have FURTHER STEEPENED THE LINE (e.g. as most vax friendly states see many people get shot #4 or #5 (and some laggards add #1,#2, #3) through 2022). This data is available and it is surprising they didn’t use it, maybe they did and didn’t like how it looks.

    My cynicism at this point knows no bounds and so I think the insurance expert is onto something here. The SOA presenting only these data is a form of “cherry-picking” which has been a consistent tactic by authorities when marshaling scientific support for the pro-vax, anti-ivermectin and anti-hydroxychloroquine campaigns.

    https://pierrekory.substack.com/p/the-may-2023-society-of-actuaries

  35. Fast Eddy says:

    There are too many charts to copy … I think this lays to rest any suggestions that there are not huge numbers of excess deaths

    BOOM…. https://pierrekory.substack.com/p/the-may-2023-society-of-actuaries

  36. Fast Eddy says:

    https://pierrekory.substack.com/p/the-may-2023-society-of-actuaries

    2a. White-collar workers saw the biggest increases in all cause mortality in 2021 and it has continued to be elevated relative to blue or gray collars (grey collars are “hybrid” e.g. educated blue collar like teachers, nurses and supervisors).

    https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7f8f4466-20bc-494d-bd72-639abd1776f4_1898x446.png

    2b. This higher excess mortality was greatest in government jobs…

    https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fce3caf02-e213-453d-b038-d11d2d96a332_1520x556.png

    Hmmmm…. do you think this is because govt employees were forced to get Rat Juiced?

    norm? keith?

  37. Fast Eddy says:

    To review the report more in depth, I had help from a life insurance industry expert who more carefully reviewed the entire report and noted the following issues and limitations with both the report and the data contained in it.

    First off, right at the beginning of the report, they report this chilling statistic:

    The 33-month period of April 2020 through December 2022 showed the following Group Life mortality results: • Estimated reported Group Life claim incidence rates were up 15.9% on a seasonally adjusted basis compared to 2017–2019 reported claims. (Whoa – On average, 15% more Americans are continuing to die monthly compared to before the pandemic).

    Now, here are the charts and points that my colleague highlighted in an email as the most interesting (the last one is the most compelling). From their email:

    https://pierrekory.substack.com/p/the-may-2023-society-of-actuaries

    • Fred says:

      A 15% increase in deaths is ho hum in this era. Just think of it like sports entertainment on the TV – which country is top of the league table?

      Australia, the fine sporting icon of a country it is, beat 15% in 2022, but won’t in 2023, unless our Goobmint dreams up a cunning plague to get the normies to take more boosters.

      More party and more plague, but less doom is needed folks.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Good idea … the PR Team should turn this into a competition – The Death Olympics

        I’ll watch that

  38. Fast Eddy says:

    https://pierrekory.substack.com/p/the-may-2023-society-of-actuaries

    Quick aside: In the months after the article on One America’s data was published, I was invited, along with several colleagues, to speak on a zoom call with major life insurance corporation executives, actuaries and/or their representatives to discuss the data they were seeing and how and whether they could confidently identify (and subsequently announce?) to the public that this death and disability wave was being caused by mass vaccination of working age Americans.

    What happened at and after the zoom call should not be shocking. Despite the industry’s history of boldly improving regulatory safety in a number of fields, almost every attendee’s camera was turned off, and only two people spoke or asked queastions. One was a bold, unvaccinated chief actuary of a major company and the other a senior, state regulator of the life insurance industry.

    Ultimately, at that time, given the lack of access to data on the individual vaccination status of all the death claims, it was concluded that a public statement by a group of them was not going to happen (which is what we had been hoping would result). However, it is my opinion based on that experience, that even if the data were definitive, I seriously doubt that group of people would have stood on the media and government “firing line” with us “dissident doctors.”

    It has now been over a year since that meeting. The most recent U.S Society of Actuaries (SOA) Group Life Insurance quarterly report came out May 2023. Many of us anticipated even more damning evidence. The evidence was damning all right – but not the SOA’s interpretation of it. In fact, right on the first page of the report is this comment:

    The Society of Actuaries Research Institute’s May 2023 report and its predecessor reports regarding U.S. Group Life COVID-19 mortality explore the impact of COVID-19 on the group life insurance sector and do not address or consider vaccine status. The research does not validate any claims made that suggest a causal relationship between COVID-19 vaccines and mortality. Any claims implying such a relationship are a misrepresentation of the data presented in the report and are not reflective of the SOA Research Institute’s views.

  39. Fast Eddy says:

    His quotes in that article:

    “We are seeing, right now, the highest death rates we have seen in the history of this business – not just at OneAmerica,” the company’s CEO Scott Davison said during an online news conference this week. “The data is consistent across every player in that business.”

    “the increase in deaths represents “huge, huge numbers,” and that’s it’s not elderly people who are dying, but “primarily working-age people 18 to 64” ( meaning employees of companies that have group life insurance plans through OneAmerica).

    “And what we saw just in third quarter, we’re seeing it continue into fourth quarter, is that death rates are up 40% over what they were pre-pandemic,” he said.

    “Just to give you an idea of how bad that is, a three-sigma or a one-in-200-year catastrophe would be 10% increase over pre-pandemic,” he said. “So 40% is just unheard of.”

    “What the data is showing to us is that the deaths that are being reported as COVID deaths greatly understate the actual death losses among working-age people from the pandemic. It may not all be COVID on their death certificate, but deaths are up just huge, huge numbers.”

    He also mentioned an “uptick” in disability claims, saying at first it was short-term disability claims, and later the increase was within the long-term disability claims. Ed Dowd and his team at phinancetechnologies.com have analyzed the official U.S government disability data. They found sudden, unprecedented, temporally associated increases in disability with the vaccine roll-out.

    https://pierrekory.substack.com/p/the-may-2023-society-of-actuaries

    • Fred says:

      I’ve seen that 40% figure a lot. Seems a bit counterintuitive at first.

      Overall death rate increase ~15%, but working age death rates up ~40%. Generally speaking, death rates in the working age group are low, so boosting the death rate in that group by 40% gives you an overall 15% increase.

      Does that sound credible?

    • Look at Table 5.7. There is a huge increase (131%) in the death rates of people in the 0 – 44 age range, and this persists even when covid is not present. Only 40% of these deaths were covid. These could be accidents, drug overdoses, suicides and the like.

      The impact is less of these other causes on the next older age category (44-64). The (still working) 65+ age group actually shows better mortality than expected, when covid claims are excluded.

  40. Fast Eddy says:

    The May 2023 Society of Actuaries Report Reveals Disturbing Data On The Lethality Of the Covid Vaccines

    Our USA Today Op-Ed “silently suggesting” vaccines cause excess mortality was inspired by damning data from the Society of Actuaries. Unsurprisingly, the report conclusions suggest self-censorship.

    https://pierrekory.substack.com/p/the-may-2023-society-of-actuaries

  41. Fast Eddy says:

    Discuss – they won’t like this cuz it’s Truth. One might at the the MWRW are in that position because the self organizing system dictates this.

    https://sagehana.substack.com/p/sage-shibboleth-manchurian-candidate/

    Fast Eddy

    There is this propensity to assume the Men Who Run the World MWRW… are evil… or stupid… or incompetent…

    I made this mistake in 2008.

    I bought into the Bernanke is the Devil theme.

    But then I was made aware of the Liar Loans… you know – where bankers loaned money to dead beats who had no proof of income and a terrible credit history….

    That made me pause for thought. Shylock would take a pound of flesh if a client was unable to pay him back – debtor prison was a thing… Since the beginning of time bankers number one rule has always been – make sure you get paid back + interest.

    You do not make loans to people who are unlikely to repay you. That rule is Golden.

    Yet in the run up to the GFC this rule went out the window. Why would bankers suddenly be willing to loan money to people who almost certainly could not pay it back… what had changed?

    Surely something very frightening must have motivated the bankers to make these loans — for Bernanke and Friends to condone — and encourage this….

    That was when I realized Bernanke was not evil … not stupid… not incompetent… that was when I realized there must be something monumentally horrifying that force the bankers to overturn the Golden Rule…

    What could make them do such an ‘insane’ thing — a thing that was obviously going to end in tears.

    What did they fear?

    Deeper research brought up this what I refer to as The Beginning of the End of Civilization:

    JUNE 13, 2003 – There is increasing evidence that massive economic stimulus — monetary, courtesy of the Federal Reserve, and fiscal, thanks to the president and supply-side minded lawmakers — is taking hold. The magnitude of the policy turnaround, which caps a constructive, multi-year reflation process, should overwhelm the economic negatives — including the drag from expensive oil and poor finances at the state- and local-government levels. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/207227/reversal-fortune-david-malpass

    In a nutshell – expensive energy was destroying growth as we approached peak conventional oil (which happened in 2005). Oil prices lifted off to a record of $147/barrel in the months prior to the GFC.

    The reason they were making loans to dead beats was to drive housing prices higher and create ‘wealth’ — this acted as massive stimulus (wealthy people take second mortgages tapping the increased value of their assets and buy more stuff). This offset the headwinds of costly energy.

    This kept the economy roaring till 2008. Then they bailed it out and did more of the same – till that was blowing up in 2019 – and covid was launched

    For those wanting to understand what Bernanke knew prior to the GFC read:

    SEE PAGE 59 – THE PERFECT STORM : The economy is a surplus energy equation, not a monetary one, and growth in output (and in the global population) since the Industrial Revolution has resulted from the harnessing of ever-greater quantities of energy. But the critical relationship between energy production and the energy cost of extraction is now deteriorating so rapidly that the economy as we have known it for more than two centuries is beginning to unravel https://ftalphaville-cdn.ft.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Perfect-Storm-LR.pdf

    The point of this tale — is not so much to rehash the reasons we are being exterminated…

    Rather it is to demonstrate that the MWRW are not ‘evil’….. they are making informed often difficult decisions that they expect will allow their empire to continue as long as possible.

    They assemble experts to advise them and help them make these decisions.

    There is no f789ing way they would EVER allow politicians to make the decisions. There is no f789ing way they would EVER allow the cockroaches who vote for these stooges have any influence on these very difficult, complicated issues. NEVER.

    That would be like asking an obese 5ft tall 60 yr old to play one on one with LeBron…. big mistake.

    The MWRW do not tell us what they are doing … because they know that often their decisions and the rationale for them … would upset the cockroaches… cuz the cockroaches have not read The Prince… and worship Jesus (even though the cockroaches are hypocrites).

    They cannot tell the roaches that they invade countries to steal the resources — cuz the roaches would get upset…. so the MWRW blow up towers and blame this on Saddam – then they invade Iraq and hang Saddam… and the means the roaches get to continue to Live Large.

    The roaches are stupid – if they made the decision they’d vote not to hand Saddam … too stupid to realize they’d not live large anymore… but by then it would be too late…

    With respect to the consolidation of farms… it is my understanding that the reason for wiping out small holding farmers was because this type of farming is inefficient. Industrial farming and the ‘green revolution’ (the one where we use finite substances to make nitrogen and pesticides so we can grow endless crops without a fallow period) was only viable with large holdings.

    Those massive machines that sow and harvest the crops are not viable on small fields.

    There is a reason why so few people work in agriculture now — yet we produce enough food for 8B….

    The MWRW could not say – hey f789ers — we need this land to be consolidated cuz efficiency … that would likely lead to violence… instead you bankrupt them….

    The morale of the story is — the MWRW are smarter than the roaches – you don’t get to run the world by being dumb…. they know what is best for us — cuz what is best for us is best for them … they want the farm to operate and prosper.

    So when they make a decision — instead of getting angry and calling them stupid evil and incompetent … look deeper.

    Look for a logical reason to explain what they are doing… They are Spock-like in terms of their adherence to logic.

    • Tsubion says:

      Can’t disagree with anything here. The self-appointed Elite Master Farmers are simply managing their plantation. The animals may kick over a bucket now and then, but it’s relatively simple to bring them back in line with a public thrashing or two or a carrot dangled in front of their nose. They may even choose to burn down the farm and start again… a Great Reset if you will.

  42. Fast Eddy says:

    RFK – I am pro vaccine – all vaccines

  43. Fast Eddy says:

    Now this is rather odd… re RFK… 41 minute mark:

    https://youtu.be/i0ysqmtWe4Q?t=2455

  44. Fast Eddy says:

    Reactions in leprosy patients triggered by COVID‐19 vaccination
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9349418/

    Multibacillary leprosy unmasked by COVID-19 vaccination – PMC
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8610845/

    More hahaha

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=leprosy+rash+and+covid+vaccine&ia=news

    • Bobby says:

      Thanks Eddy. It is not well know that Conventional TB vacs cause leprosy in some inoculated individuals. The bacterium causing both TB and Leprosy are in the same genius, TB vac is also touted as (the only treatment) providing partial inoculation preventing Leprosy by medical professionals.

      This is the real kicker, it is recommended individuals receive a TB booster after 20 years, while in fact the incubation period for leprosy is ‘twenty years’. Primary symptoms are Alopecia particularly loss of eyebrows and eyelashes, or lupus (mostly in females) Leprosy is difficult to diagnose, the disease is referred to as the great imitator.

      In addition most humans are naturally immune carriers of the leprosy bacteria so don’t need to be treated, (bit like cockroaches, which also carry the disease) therefore leprosy is widely transmitted via sewage.

      I myself contracted the condition (Leprosy) from a TB jab, mandated in order to train and work in healthcare in 1997, just didn’t know for twenty years until developing Alopecia exactly 20 years after the TB jab. Did develop immediate reactions upon receiving the TB shots (cysts and persistent dry cough) which my health providers at the time could not explain and basically ignored.

      Can’t argue with direct experience. Vaccines, those that profit from and administer them are basically evil.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Notice how norm dismissed the truth … he wants to kill the messenger…

        Tenpenny didn’t write the studies hahahahaha

        Hey norm .. what about these people? Should they be fired?

        There is dummmb… and then there is ….

        Multibacillary leprosy unmasked by COVID-19 vaccination
        Shashendra Aponso, MD, MRCP,a,∗ Loh Chee Hoou, MD, MRCP,b Yeo Yi Wei, MBBS, MRCP, FAMS (Dermatology),b Syed Ahmed Salahuddin, MBBS, MD, FRCPath,c and Pan Jiun Yit, MBBS, FRCP (Edin)a

        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8610845/

      • Fast Eddy says:

        McCullough is next :

        Dr. McCullough is one of the most published cardiologist ever in America, with over 1,000 publications and 660 citations in the National Library of Medicine and is a recipient of the Simon Dack Award from the American College of Cardiology and the International Vicenza Award in Critical Care Nephrology for his scholarship and research.

        My mate who is being treated by Kory for myocarditis and was diagnosed by Malhotra (saw him twice) … my mate had to join an Indian tribe as an honorary member in order to be seen by Kory … seems the only way Kory is allowed to see patients is in the capacity of ‘witch doctor’ for that tribe (that’s the work around)….

        https://www.ourcivilisation.com/medicine/kory.htm

        Dr Aseem Malhotra is an NHS trained Consultant Cardiologist. He is a world renowned expert in the prevention, diagnosis and management of heart disease. He is co-chair of BAPIO London division. He is a founding member of Action on Sugar and was the lead campaigner highlighting the harm caused by excess sugar consumption in the United Kingdom, particularly its role in type 2 diabetes and obesity.

        Get More Boosters norm.

        You know we will laugh at you when you drop… make sure not to post a givensengo on OFW>.. it will be … ignored.

      • Tim Groves says:

        And soon Dr. Campbell will no longer be allowed to lance a boil or bandage a sprained wrist.

        And Dr. Malhotra will no longer be allowed to perform heart surgery.

        That what happens to doctors who practice wrongspeech.

        And people like you can gloat some more. Please excuse me while I throw up.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          norm will always be able to find Nurse D.unce to give him another booster of Rat Juice

        • Yes, it is unnecessarily vicious.

        • Tenpenny’s license was revoked because she refuses to co operate with medical authorities wanting to investigate her claims

          Now why might that be Tim?

          Because she knows its all self promoting nonsense?

          do take the trouble to read up on the facts

        • Dennis L. says:

          Life is self-correcting, sometimes the powers that be must look at our efforts and wonder how we screwed that one up.

          A certain German was a menace in the 40’s, Russian winters with a bit of help from a Slavic race ground him to a pulp. Seems to me that particular winter was harsher than normal, they thought of something, a snowflake, well a huge pile of snowflakes.

          Dennis L.

  45. Fast Eddy says:

    Study shows MRNA can cause type 1 leprosy hahahahaha

  46. Lastcall says:

    Dont need no diesel, just get Taylor to dance semi naked on stage and the economy is saved!

    US Economy Just Received A Major Boost, Courtesy Taylor Swift
    Taylor Swift, 33, is now within a striking distance of the billion-dollar mark.

    This is not the first time that a US government body has cited Ms Swift as the reason for major economic boost to the local economy

    https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/taylor-swift-eras-tour-taylor-swift-features-in-us-economic-report-heres-why-4209411

    • drb753 says:

      She is 33! How long can this economic boost last?

      • Lastcall says:

        They can keep Biden doddering along, and isn’t Kissinger still around?
        She should be good for a few more merry go-rounds as the dollar slides and the economy continues to be a crapshoot.
        The circus must go on, until it can’t.

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