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For many years, there has been a theory that imports of oil would become a problem before there was an overall shortage of fossil fuels. In fact, when I look at the data, it seems to be clear that oil imports are already constrained.
As I look at the data, it appears to me that coal and natural gas imports are becoming constrained, as well. There was evidence of this constrained supply in the spiking prices for these fuels in Europe in late 2021 and early 2022, starting well before the Ukraine conflict began.
Oil, coal, and natural gas are different enough from each other that we should expect somewhat different patterns. Oil is inexpensive to transport. It is especially important for the production of food and for transportation. Prices tend to be worldwide prices.
Coal and natural gas are both more expensive to transport than oil. They tend to be used in industry, in the heating and cooling of buildings, and in electricity production. Their prices tend to be local prices, rather than the worldwide price we expect for oil. Prices for importers of these fuels can jump very high if there are shortages.
In this post, I first look at the trends in the overall supply of these fuels, since a big part of the import problem is fossil fuel supply not growing quickly enough to keep pace with world population growth. I also give more background how the three fossil fuels differ.
After this introductory material, I provide charts and some analysis of fossil fuel imports and exports by region, based on data from the 2023 Statistical Review of World Energy. Theoretically, the total of regional imports should be very close to the total of regional exports. This analysis gives a little more insight into what is going wrong and where.
[1] On a worldwide basis, total supplies of both oil and coal seem to be constrained.
Figure 2 shows that world supplies of all three fossil fuels follow the same general pattern: They tend to rise in close to parallel lines, with oil supply on top, coal next, and natural gas providing the least supply.
The total supply of fossil fuels needs to be shared by the world’s population. It therefore makes sense to look at supply on a per capita basis.
On Figure 3, the top line, oil supply per capita, is almost perfectly level, suggesting that having a greater supply of oil enables having a larger world population. This relationship makes sense because oil is used to a significant extent in growing today’s food, and shipping it to market. Oil products also make herbicides, insecticides, and drugs for animals that enable the growing supply of food needed to feed today’s population. Oil products are also helpful in road making, and in providing lubrication for machinery of all kinds.
We might conclude that oil supply is essential to the growth of human population. It is only by way of a huge change in the economy, such as the one that took place in 2020, that there is a big dip in oil usage. Even now, some of the changes are “sticking.” Some people are continuing to work from home. Business travel is still low. People are still not buying fancy clothing as much as before 2020. All these things help reduce fossil fuel usage, particularly oil usage.
Figure 3 also shows that on a per capita basis, coal supply has fallen by 9% since its peak in 2011. This fact, plus the fact that coal prices have been spiking around the world in recent years, leads me to believe that coal supply is already constrained, even apart from the export issue.
[2] The share of oil traded interregionally is more than double the share of coal or natural gas traded interregionally.
The reason why oil is disproportionately high in Figure 1 compared to Figure 2 is because a little over 40% of oil is shipped between regions. In comparison, only about 18% of coal production is traded with other regions, and about 17% of natural gas production is shipped interregionally. Oil is much easier (and cheaper) to transport between regions than either coal or natural gas. Shipping costs tend to escalate rapidly, the farther either natural gas or coal is shipped.
Natural gas has a second problem over and above the high cost of shipping: It requires storage (which may be high cost) if it is not used immediately. Storage is needed for both natural gas and coal because both fuels are often used for heat in winter, either by direct burning or by creating electricity that can be used to heat buildings. Storage for coal is close to free because it can be stored in piles outside.
Besides heat in winter, coal is also used to provide electricity for air conditioning in summer, so its demand curve has peaks in both summer and winter. Natural gas is much more of a winter-heat fuel in the US, so it has a large peak corresponding to winter usage (Figure 4).
Storage for natural gas needs to be available in every area where users expect to use it for winter heat. The cost of this storage will be low if there are depleted natural gas caverns that can be used for storage. It is likely to be high if above ground storage is required. Natural gas importing areas often do not have suitable caverns for storage. The easy approach is to try to get by with a bare minimum of storage, and hope that imports can somehow make up the difference.
The big question for any fuel is, “Can consumers afford to pay a high enough price to cover all the costs involved in getting the fuel from endpoint to endpoint, at the time it is needed?“
Citizens become very unhappy if the cost of winter heat becomes extremely expensive. They demand subsidies and rebates from the government, in order to keep costs down. This is a sign that prices are too high for the consumer.
Both coal and natural gas are also heavily used in manufacturing. Their prices vary greatly from location to location and from time to time. If coal or natural gas prices rise in a particular location, the cost of manufactured goods from that location will also tend to rise. These higher prices will particularly hurt a manufacturing country, such as Germany, because its manufactured goods will become less competitive in the world marketplace. GDP growth will be reduced, and the profitably of manufacturers will tend to fall.
Because of these issues, long-distance trade in both coal and natural gas tend to hit barriers that may be difficult to see simply by looking at the trend in world production.
[3] Natural gas exports may already be becoming constrained, even though the total amount extracted still seems to be rising.
A huge amount of investment is needed to make long-distance sale of natural gas possible. Such investment includes:
- The cost of developing a natural gas field for export use, usually over many years.
- Pipelines covering every inch traveled by the natural gas, other than any portion of the trip for which transfer as liquefied natural gas (LNG) is planned.
- Special ships to transport the LNG.
- Facilities to chill natural gas, so it can be shipped overseas as LNG.
- Regasification plants, to make the natural gas ready to ship by pipeline after it has been transferred as LNG.
- Storage facilities, so that sufficient natural gas is available for winter.
Not all of these investments are made by the same organizations. They all need to provide an adequate return. Even if “only” very long-distance pipelines are used, the cost can be high.
Pipelines work best when there is no conflict among countries. They can be blown up by another country that seeks to raise natural gas prices, or that wants to retaliate for some perceived misdeed. For this reason, most growth in natural gas exports/imports in recent years has been as LNG.
Organizations investing in high-cost infrastructure for extracting and shipping natural gas would like long-term contracts at high prices in order to cover their costs. Without a stable long-term supply contract, natural gas purchase prices can be extremely variable. Japan has tended to buy LNG under such long-term contracts, but many other countries have taken a wait-and-see attitude toward prices, hoping that “spot” prices will be lower. They don’t want to lock themselves into a long-term high-priced contract.
There are two different things that tend to go wrong:
- Spot prices bounce up above even what the long-term contract price would have been, creating a huge high-price problem for consumers.
- Spot prices, on average, turn out to be too low for natural gas exporters. As a result, they cut back on investment, so that the amount of future exports can be expected to fall.
I believe that there is a significant chance that natural gas exports are now reaching a situation where prices cannot please all users simultaneously. Not all investors can get an adequate return on the huge investments that they have made in advance. Some investments that should have been made will be omitted. For example, there might be enough natural gas storage for a warm winter, but not for a very cold winter in Europe.
A prime characteristic of a fossil fuel (or any resource) that is not economic to extract is that the industry has difficulty paying its workers an adequate wage. Recently, there has been news about a union strike against Chevron at an Australian natural gas extraction site used to provide gas for liquefied natural gas (LNG) export. This suggests that natural gas may already be hitting long-distance export limits. Prices can’t stay high enough for producers to pay their workers an adequate wage.
[4] Oil imports by area suggest that the rapidly growing manufacturing parts of the world are squeezing out the imports desired by high-wage, service-oriented countries.
Because oil is so important in international trade, I looked at the amounts two ways. The first is based on trade flows, as reported by the Energy Institute:
The second is based upon a comparison of reported production and consumption for the same year, using the assumption that if consumption is higher than production, the difference must be attributable to imported oil. The problem with this later approach is that it can easily be distorted by changes in inventory levels. There may also be difficulties with my approach of netting out flows in two different directions, especially if the flows are partly of crude oil and partly of “oil products” of various types.
In both charts, imports for China, India, and Other Asia Pacific are clearly much higher in recent years, while imports for the US, Japan, and Europe are down. The peak year for imports (in total) was about 2016 or 2017. Imports were about 3.5 million barrels a day lower in 2022, compared to peak, with both approaches.
[5] Oil imports by area indicate that nearly all oil exporters around the globe are having difficulty maintaining export levels.
Here, again I show two indications, using the same methods as for oil imports. Since trade is two sided, I would expect total import indications to more or less equal the total of all amounts exported.
On Figure 7, peak oil exports (in total) occur in 2016, with the runner up year being 2017. US oil exports are shown to be nearly zero, even in recent years, because US imports and US oil exports more or less cancel out.
The indications of Figure 8 show that apart from Canada, the amount of oil exported for all the other export groupings shown is lower in recent years than it was a few years ago. This is also evident in Figure 7, but not as clearly.
To some extent, the lower production in recent years is related to the cutbacks announced by OPEC+ (including what I call Russia+). While these cutbacks are “voluntary,” they reflect the fact that based on current oil prices, and based on investments made in recent years, these countries have made the decision to cut back production. No oil exporter would dare mention that it is running short of oil that can be extracted without considerably more investment.
On Figures 7 and 8, “Mexico+South” refers to all the oil being produced from Mexico southward. Besides Mexico, this includes Brazil, Venezuela, Argentina, Columbia, Ecuador, and a number of other small producers. Most of them are experiencing falling production. Brazil is doing a bit better, but it does not seem to be experiencing much growth in exports.
Africa’s peak year for oil exports seems to have been in 2007 (both approaches), with recent exports at a much lower level.
With respect to Russia+, its exports seem to be down from their peak in 2017 or 2018, but not any more than for oil producers from the Middle East. The European Union oil embargo doesn’t seem to have had much of an impact.
The star performer seems to be Canada, with its rising production and exports from the Canadian Oil Sands.
In this analysis, I have “netted out” imports and exports. On this basis, the US hasn’t moved into significant oil exporter status yet. I am sure that there are some people hoping that the oil production of the US will continue to increase, but whether this will happen is unclear. The growth of US oil production in recent years has helped offset (and thus hide from view) the falling exports of many countries around the world.
[6] Coal exports appear to have peaked about 2016. Europe has reduced its imports of coal, leaving more for other importers.
The peak in coal imports seems to have occurred about 2016. In particular, Europe’s imports of coal have fallen significantly since 2006. At the same time, coal imports have risen for many Asian countries, including China, India, South Korea, and Other Asia Pacific. Even Japan seems to have been able to obtain a fairly consistent level of coal imports for the 22-year period shown on Figure 9.
One thing that is striking about coal exports is that they are disproportionately from countries in the Far East. Even the coal exports of the US and Canada are from North America’s West Coast, across the Pacific. Russia’s coal exports tend to be from Siberia.
The coal exports of South Africa have declined significantly since 2018, and other African countries are eager for their imports. Today’s largest source of coal exports is Indonesia. Coal exports from Russia+, at least until 2021, have been been a source of coal export growth.
A major share of the delivered price of coal is transportation cost, which tends to be fueled by oil, particularly diesel. Overland transit is particularly expensive. The real reason for Europe’s decline in coal imports since 2006 (shown in Figure 9) may be that there are practically no affordable coal exports available to it because it is too geographically remote from major exporters. Of course, this is not a story politicians care to tell voters. They prefer to spin the story as Europe’s choice, to prevent climate change.
[7] Natural gas imports and exports have only recently started to become constrained.
Figure 11 shows that natural gas exports from Russia+ (really Russia, with a little extra production from other countries in the Commonwealth of Independent States) have stayed fairly level, except for a big drop-off in 2009 (probably recession related) and in 2022.
The overall level of natural gas exports has been rising because of contributions from several parts of the world. Africa was an early producer of natural gas exports, but its exports have been dropping off somewhat recently as local gas consumption rises.
More importantly, exports have increased in recent years from the Middle East, Australia, and North America. With this growing supply of exports, it has been possible for importers to increase their imports.
Europe was able to maintain a fairly stable level of natural gas imports between 1990 and 2018, and even to increase them by 2021. China was able to ramp up its natural gas imports. Even Japan was able to ramp up its natural gas imports until about 2014. It has tapered them back since then. India and Other Asia Pacific both have been able to add a small layer of imports, too.
[8] What lies ahead?
The countries that have the greatest advantage in using fossil fuel imports are the countries that don’t heat or cool their homes, and that don’t have large numbers of private citizens with private passenger automobiles. Because of their sparing use of fossil fuel imports, their economies can afford to pay higher prices to import these fossil fuel imports than other countries. Thus, they are likely to be winners in the competition for fossil fuel imports.
Europe stands out to be an early loser of imports. It is already losing oil and coal imports, and it also seems to be an early loser of natural gas imports. However, for all its talk about preventing climate change, the reduction in European imports of fossil fuels hasn’t made much of a dent in global carbon dioxide emissions (Figure 13).
I am afraid that no country will really come out ahead. In some sense, the United States is better off than many countries because it is producing slightly more fossil fuels than it consumes. But it still depends on China and other countries for many imported goods, including computers. Given this situation, the United States likely cannot continue business as usual for very long, either.
The various biological species in nature exist based on competition with other species the same way since their beginning.
The humans invented various ways how to prevail over other species, even their own human-centered gods. Finally, they invent the technology for their self-destruction.
Other species must feel satisfied.
I guess the other species see the humans with their hands as a terrible threat, since the humans take into their hands any weapon needed to eliminate any species. Other species look like lame with their imperfect limbs or no limbs like the human hands.
The suicidal end of the humans is just a logical end of their destructive behaviour.
grasshoppers do the exact same (overrun their resource base), so do not single us out please.
Grasshoppers can not grasp the technologies.
The majority of us can not either.
You are right: there is a declining number of the people who can do more than turn on/off a switch.
The controlled use of fire seems to have been critical in separating would-be humans from other animals. It allowed the growth in the human brain and the shrinking of the jaws and digestive apparatus.
Population outgrew biomass availability to support this growing population. Deforestation became a problem. Fossil fuels helped solve the deforestation problem.
I am not sure that the behavior of humans has been all the destructive. It is just the normal behavior of a species that can outcompete other species.
Intelligence is overrated.
In fact… it leads to extinction
Humans are like the yeast in wine. They grow in number until they cannot. In the case of yeast, the alcohol level (pollution because of their waste) grows too high and kills them.
Ah, the nostalgia of the TOD days 🙂
A world without fossil fuels or fools?
I’ll let myself out..
here’s a real funny one:
a gorilla walks into a bar and says to the bartender:
“The USA produces 12.5 mbpd of black goo crude and imports 4 mbpd of HEAVY oil from Canada.”
oh wait, you’ve heard that one before?
so sorry.
Yes David I get it but can the U.S keep producing that much? It’s an incredible inefficient country. The average American drives a pickup truck to get groceries. Why did bidet kiss the Saudi so much if it didn’t matter? No man is an island not even you.
and I get it that it’s unsustainable.
though I live in the present where it’s 12.5 plus 4.0, you know what I mean?
Another goodie
Man on the Moon Lyrics
[Verse 1]
Mott the Hoople and the Game of Life
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Andy Kaufman in the wrestling match
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Monopoly, Twenty-One, checkers and chess
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Mister Fred Blassie in a breakfast mess
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Let’s play Twister, let’s play Risk
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
See you in heaven if you make the list
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
[Pre-Chorus]
Now, Andy, did you hear about this one?
Tell me, are you locked in the punch?
Andy, are you goofing on Elvis? Hey, baby
Are we losing touch?
[Chorus]
If you believed they put an ape on the moon
Ape on the moon
If you believed there’s nothing up his sleeve
Then nothing is cool
“James , where did David get it wrong ? He thinks 10 API WCS + 50API shale oil = 30 API at the refinery gate . He does not understand that the dilution of WCS with LTO only facilitates the flow of WCS in the system . Jeffery Brown had called this the ” dumbbell effect” . Such a blend on refining will give you high gasoline and high asphalt but extremely low of the middle distillates . This is my understanding of the situation .
hole in head”?
https://www.oilystuffblog.com/single-post/true-or-false
Discarded plastic — both large and microscopic — circles the globe, choking our oceans and polluting our food supply, ultimately finding their way into your body where they can accumulate over time
Scientists have detected microplastic in all kinds of human tissues, including the placenta, lungs, spleen, liver, kidney, heart, brain and stool. In 2022, Dutch scientists also confirmed the presence of microplastics in meat and milk, as well as the blood of both farm animals and humans
Austrian researchers found plastic microparticles migrate into the brains of mice within two hours of drinking water contaminated with microplastic. Once in the brain, these plastic microparticles can increase the risk of inflammation, neurological disorders or neurodegenerative diseases such as Alzheimer’s. Other recent research found it can trigger behavioral changes akin to dementia in as little as three weeks
Microplastics are toxic to cells. Research shows microplastic particles enter cells within 24 hours of exposure and primarily accumulate around the nucleus of the cell. As levels of microplastics and exposure time increase, cell viability significantly decreases
Chinese scientists discovered microplastics in the heart tissue of 15 patients undergoing cardiovascular surgery, and some of this plastic appears to be introduced during the surgery itself
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2023/09/11/microplastics.aspx
These are disturbing findings. It is easy to believe that the amount of microplastics getting into our bodies is increasing.
SkyNews did a documentary on the subject a few years ago. I saw it and it’s pretty eye opening.
https://news.sky.com/video/special-report-plastic-pollution-in-our-oceans-10742377
Why am I not surprised that people are now made of plastic.
Quite a few of them have been voluntarily injecting silicon, botox and hydrogel for quite some time now.
I will always deeply respect those who risked their lives on 9/11. I honor the sacrifice of my brothers and sisters in the military who left their families under the pretense of protecting democracy around the world. I will forever mourn the millions of lives that were lost from the conflicts that erupted from the events of this day 22 years ago.
It’s incredible to me that just six years ago I had never heard the term “Conspiracy Theory”. I used to listen to the news on NPR on my way to work. My wife and I played along with the “contestants” on “Wait, wait, don’t tell me”, the comedy/news program on Saturday mornings. (We were very good at the game because we knew exactly what the facts were back then). We devoted our Sunday mornings to the New York Times Crossword Puzzle. Our friends did the same thing. We were happy.
Like most Americans on September 11th, we listen to the solemn calls to honor the first responders who lost their lives on this day in 2001. We pray for the soldiers and the innocent who died or were injured in the bloody wars that followed. However we have different ideas about who is to blame for this treachery. This is because my wife brought this video to my attention in October, 2017:
It was a building being blown up. Was it an old hotel in Vegas? It wasn’t. It was the Solomon Brothers Building in Manhattan, also known as World Trade Center 7. It fell on 9/11/2001 at 5:20 PM. It wasn’t hit by a plane. Why had I never known about this building?
Upon initial examination of the video, two things stand out. The building is falling quickly. I found out later that it fell in about seven seconds. This means it fell at a rate that approaches free-fall. If you were standing atop the building at the moment it began to collapse and dropped your keys off the side of the building you would have hit the ground a fraction of a second later than your keys. Think about that. Why did none of the hundreds of thousands of tons of steel and concrete put up any resistance to the fall?
Second, the building is falling symmetrically. This means that the building must have sustained serious and widespread damage prior to its collapse. Even if it did, why did everything give simultaneously?
https://madhavasetty.substack.com/p/911-a-coincidence-theory-that-will
The 911 theory does sound more and more far fetched.
The thing that always counters the CT as David likes to call it, are the eye witnesses on the ground who heard loud bangs and explosions prior to the “controlled demolition” of both towers taking place.
“loud bangs and explosions”
“and”?
how did they know what they heard were “explosions”?
or were the explosions they couldn’t see really the “loud bangs”?
or what else could have caused the loud bangs?
and were the “witnesses” verified to be 100% reliable?
or were they mere humans?
You can’t prove it was a CT just as others like you can’t prove the official government narrative. That is my point. Too many unanswered ?’s.
so are you saying all the 22 years of CTs are just unprovable bunnk?
or what?
I meant to type that you can’t prove it wasn’t a conspiracy theory/fact just like others such as you can’t prove the US Gov’t explanation that it was the planes that took down those towers.
The US Gov’t has a checkered past when it comes to these sorts of things.
It’s a good point.
I can’t prove what happened or who did it one way or the other.
All I can do is say, it looked like a controlled demolition and it quacked like a controlled demolition, and it looks like they didn’t use planes so their was no need for an air defence stand-down and that’s why there was so little evidence of an airliner crash in that field near Shanksville, Pennsylvania, and it looks like they used a lot of media people to tell lies and pretend to be eyewitnesses to things they didn’t see. But none of that is proof.
Does this mean David Ray Griffin wrote all those CT books in vain?
“… mostly due to structural failure, because the fire was too intense…..”
Have a look at some of these videos debunking 9/11 conspiracy theories Tim and get back to us.
https://www.youtube.com/@RKOwens4/videos
By the way… I used to believe all these “theories” (lies, assumptions, mistakes) too but I have come back to reality.
The attacks were carried out by some people for some reasons. of that we can be sure.
and nobody stops to consider that almost none of this claptrap existed before the advent of mass social media, (around 2015)
yet otherwise intelligent people turn into raving conspiromaniacs through the words of some nutter, denying their own common sense in the process.
I recall some highly qualified twit insisting that there were no planes—just projected holograms. Really??/
And of course I am taken to task for expressing my disbelief in all this nonsense.
(and other rubbish)—how long can this go on?
just how much explosive would be needed to bring down a WTC tower–yet no one questioned anyone who, day after day was bringing in stuff, carefully placing it, floor by floor, in abuilding among 000s of people
(dont mind me—I’m just the IT guy)
Yes — the purpose was to galvanize support for multiple wars to secure energy supplies from the middle east.
Mission Accomplished!
Norman, 9/11 “Truth” really got going in a big way around 2005. Back then it was mostly on blogs and websites. And as there were less people who were talking about it then, the quality of the talk was higher.
maybe i missed it back then—certaintly wasn’t at the same volume as now
constant repetition of conspiracy doesn’t make it true though, i’m afraid, or eliminate the points i made in my earlier comment
Tim, you have fallen for a load of bunk put out by professional conspiracy theory peddlers.
You’re not the only one, but I judge people based on these things.
You didn’t really have a good handle on the Convid fraud either. Rejigging a lifetime of erroneous beliefs is hard to do I guess.
Don’t fret. You’re in good company. Most doctors and virologists are in the same boat. Totally clueless.
But that doesn’t excuse you on 9/11 because 9/11 is relatively easy to analyze if you have any critical thinking ability at all.
Don’t you find it even remotely suspicious that your kind are so easily lead by the nose? Running around in circles for 22 years no less? So easily trapped in the details of building collapses, airplanes, crisis actors, truth movements and all the rest of it. In other words… in the gutter with all the other lame brains.
Try focusing on who benefits from these events, these occultic, highly symbolic, sacrificial burnt offerings and you might stop wasting your time on holographic plane theories and other such bunk.
and you havent touched on sandy hook shootings yet
eddys favourite crisis actors—along with Alex Jones
How many booster shots have you had?
The BBC are far too modest. A BBC blog explains that Jane Standley here reporting that Building 7 (The Saloman Brothers Building) collapsed 23 minutes before it actually happened, with the building still standing in the background… was “an error – no more than that.”
And then she goes on to discuss the people’s feelings of “revenge”, as if “we all already knew who dun it.”
These “mistakes” happen all the time as events are unfolding on the day. There really is nothing unusual about it at all. Other agencies made similar mistakes on the day. They receive reports on potential events and put them out ahead of time trying to get the scoop and be the first to get it out there. That’s just how news media works unfortunately.
Mistakes????
Hahaha… the building was still standing and he reports it’s collapsed… hahahaha…
Remember – these folks are reading off of scripts hahaha
come on man … are you trying to tell us we are stoooopid????
Duh on Steroids
Mistakes were made?
By the BBC?
And I thought they were infallible.
Tsubion, your response demonstrates that no matter how “sloppy” or how “in your face” the powers that be get, some people will always lap it up and make excuses for them.
I am being very polite and respectful in assuming that you are not a paid shill for anybody, but just an ordinary sensible conventional normie.
But I must tell you that we well-trained abnormies can see through psyops that fool normies by the billion. And once we see through ’em, we can’t unsee through ’em.
The PR Team counts on most people to behave like Toobion.
It makes their job very easy
Tim, you don’t have to hold back. I can take it.
Not sure you can take being wrong about this though. It could destroy you. People that become heavily invested in a psyop distraction and misinformation campaign could potentially self-destruct when they finally have to own up to being the most gullible person in the room. The shame can be overwhelming.
On the other hand, people that survive cults can go on to live a normal healthy life if a suitable cult-exit strategy is followed.
I hope you find the help you so desperately need.
Ted “Gunner” Grabbhams
(exCIA/NSA/BlackOpsSpecialForces/SEALTeam/ProjectSHILL/) government smokescreen operative at your service.
Yes but how did they report the building had collapsed … when it was still standing?
But cons-piracy?
Noooooo!
There is no evidence of cons-piracy at all!
Tim.
You’re better than this.
At least I thought you were.
People conspired to carry out an attack on the Twin Towers and the Pentagon on 9/11.
If you think you know exactly who the perps are and how far up the chain of command they reach then let us know.
There are many theories including Bollyn’s that point the finger in certain directions more conclusively than all the other garbage, but even so it needs to be taken with a pinch of salt.
https://www.bollyn.com/
Bollyn spins the demolition garbage too even though this has been thoroughly debunked. There is no evidence of explosives used that day. Elements that are commonly found in highrises were found and none that are specific to thermate. And none of the usual devices used in demo work. Nothing.
People watch a video and scream controlled demo. That’s what we have to put up with.
These things happen for multiple reasons. Agents are deployed to mop up the mess. Grifters and other opportunists latch on to tell people all the stories they want to hear.
And the gullible repeat this limited hangout material for 22 years thinking they’re the bee’s knees.
https://youtu.be/_A9X_8flGeM
Discuss
is the post below a new CT?
it seems to say the planes had something else explosive besides jet fuel.
what?
anyway, it’s FUN to list the CTs for the past 22 YEARS, exactly now.
1. planes were gov directed.
2. planes had extra explosives besides jet fuel.
3. planes were really missiles disguised by holograms.
4. thermite/explosives pre-installed by workers.
5. nukes in the basements!
6. energy beam from space orbit.
7. c’mon man, there must be more!
so 22 YEARS and the CTers can’t come up with a reasonably cohesive story for what happened.
22 YEARS!
what’s the problem, really, just speak up and tell us what the REAL story is, you know, up in that list, or is it something else?
c’mon man, it’s 22 YEARS!
>> so 22 YEARS and the CTers can’t come up with a reasonably cohesive story for what happened.
What? There are plenty of self-coherent theories, but without an ability to go gather physical evidence, none can be proven to the exclusion of the others.
What we *do* know is that the official narrative is obvious BS. I mean, a third building imploded that wasn’t hit. How much more obvious can it be?
“I mean, a third building imploded that wasn’t hit. How much more obvious can it be?”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kSq663m0G8
Try watching some of the other videos here…
https://www.youtube.com/@RKOwens4/videos
And see if you still think it’s so obvious.
Keep taking those boosters.
Just to collect another data point on you: did we walk on the moon in 1969?
High correlation between man on the moon nonsense belief… klimax change belief… and loving Rat Juice… most also yearn to own an EV
Completely captured
I don’t know. I wasn’t there. And I don’t have tens of millions of dollars worth of equipment to shine a laser on the reflector that was supposedly left behind there so I can detect a pixel of reflected laser beam and that somehow that would prove that we’ve been to the moon and back several times.
Maybe we can shoot FE through the Van Allen belts a few times to see if humans can withstand the temporary dose of radiation.
None of this has anything to do with 9/11 or convid but everything just gets lumped together in one big fruit salad with you guys.
No thanks. Instead let’s load all the Moon Grooopies onto a shuttle and fire them through the belts… Mission – walk the walk…
It went down at freefall speed… what caused that?
NIST says a single beam broke … hahahahahaha mentally ill people believe that
or people who are really f789ing stoooopid and believe anything cnnbbc tells them
Towers went down at slower than freefall. If you understand the tower construction you would know that they are mostly empty space. The flimsy floors hang from brackets. Once the top of the structure goes (structural failure) there’s nothing that will stop that sucker pancaking all the way down. The core columns suffer extreme stresses from the top down and get ripped out. Anyone saying otherwise is pushing some kind of story because they have something to sell or want to cause confusion.
You appear to have bought the counter-psyop limited hangout confusion narrative hook line and sinker.
Judging by your convid performance I shouldn’t really be this shocked at how wrong you can be about pretty much everything.
Being a clown is one thing. A buffoon. There’s a use for that. It can be entertaining. But what you do goes beyond that. It’s a form of insanity.
There’s a time for clowning around and a time for serious discussion. You obviously wouldn’t be invited to the table for the latter.
we used to have off-OFW discussions a few years ago between a few OFW trusties
Eddy was never invited
Yes I heard about those… you’d all gather out back the dumpster and flick Super Snatch some coins to provide the ‘entertainment’…
Sounds like fun… if one is a wanker
hahahaha… did I mention my brother – who does understand tower construction cuz he worked on these towers during his time here https://www.som.com/expertise/commercial/ See the towers …. that’s what he did…
He designed skyscrapers… really tall buildings… he found that line of work boring cuz one floor is basically the same as the next so it was not that much of a challenge…
Anyhow as he explained to me – towers are not built like a house of cards — you know – you pull one card and the house falls … no no no no no … they have a steel frame — very heavy thick steel… that is built to withstand all sorts of stresses including high winds and so on … they are very difficult to knock down… very difficult indeed.
And they are able to withstand fires … heat… they have extensive sprinkler systems…
I was discussing with him some years ago a theory where terrorists might rent a ground floor flat and over many days bring in backpacks with jugs of petrol into the flat… and store it up — then one day light the f789er on fire… and burn the building down…
no no no he said – not possible … buildings have systems that would douse a fire like that…and are made of flame retardant materials if you wanted to do that you’d have to find very old buildings that might not have been upgraded… probably slums… cuz most tall buildings will have these measures in place
So you have not a f789ing clue what you are talking about … buildings do not just collapse upon their footprint at free fall… unless… you blow up the supporting steel structure at the bottom of the building
However in your Clown World… no doubt they do… but that’s a Clown World… it’s not reality
Duh
Norman likes to play the game of “If You Claim It Didn’t Happen Like That, Then Explain How It Did Happen.”
That’s not a game I care to play. And I don’t have to, because it’s not my story. It is enough for skeptical observers to point out the inconsistencies, contradictions, impossibilities, distortions and contortions in official cons-piracy theories.
We are not obliged to offer alternative accounts of what we think really happened. It’s the storytellers who told the story who have to account for all the inconsistencies in their accounts.
Let’s keep asking the Harley guy how he knew the buildings collapsed due to structural failure because the fires were intense enough to melt steel. Let’s keep asking Jane Stadley how she knew the Salomon Building had collapsed 20 minutes before it collapsed. Let’s keep asking whether Barbara Olson really made any phone calls telling the world about rag heads with boxcutters, and whether she is alive and well and living incognito.
“We are not obliged to offer alternative accounts of what we think really happened. It’s the storytellers who told the story who have to account for all the inconsistencies in their accounts.”
Yes Tim, the official account is so full of holes, it amazes that anyone can believe it without question.
Building 7, the federal building they initially tried to scrub from history, but by doing so, forced themselves to explain and by so doing revealed the lie they tried to hide.
For anyone that believes without question, I’ll ask again.
Is free fall possible when there is resistance?
If you answer no, the official narrative is a clear lie.
If you answer yes, please explain.
Why won’t NIST release their modelling?
If the modelling is good, they could prove their case.
I’m open to being proven wrong, but there needs to be plausible explanations and 22 years on, there isn’t.
Some food for thought.
“The total collapse of WTC 7 at 5:20 PM on 9/11, shown
in Fig. 2, is remarkable because it exemplified all the sig-
nature features of an implosion: The building dropped
in absolute free fall for the first 2.25 seconds of its de-
scent over a distance of 32 meters or eight stories [3]. Its
transition from stasis to free fall was sudden, occurring
in approximately one-half second. It fell symmetrically
straight down. Its steel frame was almost entirely dis-
membered and deposited mostly inside the building’s
footprint, while most of its concrete was pulverized into
tiny particles. Finally, the collapse was rapid, occurring
in less than seven seconds.”
https://www.europhysicsnews.org/articles/epn/pdf/2016/04/epn2016474p21.pdf
FEMA and NIST can’t even agree on the timing.
“The collapse began when a critical internal column buckled and triggered cascading failure of nearby columns throughout, which was first visible from the exterior with the crumbling of a rooftop penthouse structure at 5:20:33 pm. This initiated progressive collapse of the entire building at 5:21:10 pm, according to FEMA, while the 2008 NIST study placed the final collapse time at 5:20:52 pm”
Take note of the times given for collapse(37 & 19 seconds) and then watch this
https://youtu.be/bWorDrTC0Qg?feature=shared
Are either correct, or even close.
Probably shouldn’t go into the how, but a little food for thought on the one bit of evidence that they couldn’t destroy before people looked. Yes, the pulverised concrete that was spread all across Manhattan.
University of Copenhagen nano chemist Niels Harrit did look.
Conclusion.
“Based on these observations, we conclude that the red
layer of the red/gray chips we have discovered in the WTC
dust is active, unreacted thermitic material, incorporating
nanotechnology, and is a highly energetic pyrotechnic or
explosive material.”
https:
//benthamopen.com/contents/pdf/TOCPJ/TOCPJ-2-7.pdf
Professor of theoretical physics, Per Hedegård from the University of Copenhagen’s Niels Bohr Institute was originally a critic of Harrit, but as an honest scientist, was prepared to check the data. He’s not a critic anymore.
22 years to get their story straight, using the might of all federal agencies and they failed dismally.
How sad.
You are the ones making extraordinary claims.
The onus is on you to provide conclusive evidence that backs up your claims.
Controlled demolition. No evidence to this day.
No planes. Holograms. No evidence.
DEW beam weapons. No evidence.
Nukes in the basement. No evidence.
Missiles in the Pentagon. No evidence.
Pretty much every other theory. No evidence.
Just blurry pixelated video images and extrapolations to nowhere.
The explosive material claims have been debunked. Two elements that are specific to thermate and would conclusively prove their use on 9/11 are nowhere to be found in the samples taken.
You’re attempting to place a lot of claims on me that I haven’t made. Why are you lying?
People generally do that when they have no argument.
I did mention what was found in the dust and I even said “probably shouldn’t” as someone of unquestioning faith always gets emotional when I do.
“The explosive material claims have been debunked.”
Really, by who and don’t put another tube video from the basement dweller.
NIST refused to look, so it wasn’t them. It wasn’t FEMA either, so what is your source if truth?
“14. Search for Explosive or Thermite Residues
From a NIST FAQ: [Question: ] “Did the NIST investi-
gation look for evidence of the WTC towers being brought
down by controlled demolition? Was the steel tested for ex-
plosives or thermite residues? The combination of thermite
and sulfur (called thermate) “slices through steel like a hot
knife through butter.” [Answer: ] NIST did not test for the
residue of these compounds in the steel” [3].
We agree; there is no evidence that NIST tested for resi-
dues of thermite or explosives. This is another remarkable
admission. Probing for residues from pyrotechnic materials
including thermite in particular, is specified in fire and ex-
plosion investigations by the NFPA 921 code:
Unusual residues might remain from the initial
fuel. Those residues could arise from thermite,
magnesium, or other pyrotechnic materials [26].
Traces of thermite in residues (solidified slag, dust, etc.)
would tell us a great deal about the crime and the cause of
thousands of injuries and deaths. This is standard procedure
for fire and explosion investigations. Perhaps NIST will ex-
plain why they have not looked for these residues? The code
specifies that fire-scene investigators must be prepared to
justify an exclusion [26].
NIST has been asked about this important issue recently,
by investigative reporter Jennifer Abel:
Abel: “..what about that letter where NIST said it
didn’t look for evidence of explosives?” Neuman
[spokesperson at NIST, listed on the WTC report]:
“Right, because there was no evidence of that.”
Abel: But how can you know there’s no evidence if
you don’t look for it first? Neuman: “If you’re
looking for something that isn’t there, you’re wast-
ing your time… and the taxpayers’ money.” [27].
The evident evasiveness of this answer might be humor-
ous if not for the fact that NIST’s approach here affects the
lives of so many innocent people. We do not think that look-
ing for thermite or other residues specified in the NFPA 921
code is “wasting your time.” We may be able to help out
here as well, for we have looked for such residues in the
WTC remains using state-of-the-art analytical methods, es-
pecially in the voluminous toxic dust that was produced as
the buildings fell and killed thousands of people, and the
evidence for thermite use is mounting”
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/228371800_Fourteen_Points_of_Agreement_with_Official_Government_Reports_on_the_World_Trade_Center_Destruction
Niels Harrit disagrees with you. Do have anything apart from the basement dweller to contradict his finds?
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/228660396_Active_Thermitic_Material_Discovered_in_Dust_from_the_911_World_Trade_Center_Catastrophe
Feel free to chuck more false accusations/abuse, if it helps calms your agitated emotional state(yes, I’m doing it deliberately now. I’ll stop when you grow up).
Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe
Niels H. Harrit*,1, Jeffrey Farrer2, Steven E. Jones*,3, Kevin R. Ryan4, Frank M. Legge5, Daniel Farnsworth2, Gregg Roberts6, James R. Gourley7 and Bradley R. Larsen3 1Department of Chemistry, University of Copenhagen, Denmark 2Department of Physics and Astronomy, Brigham Young University, Provo, UT 84602, USA 3S&J Scientific Co., Provo, UT, 84606, USA 49/11 Working Group of Bloomington, Bloomington, IN 47401, USA 5Logical Systems Consulting, Perth, Western Australia 6Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, Berkeley, CA 94704, USA 7International Center for 9/11 Studies, Dallas, TX 75231, USA
Abstract: We have discovered distinctive red/gray chips in all the samples we have studied of the dust produced by the destruction of the World Trade Center.
Examination of four of these samples, collected from separate sites, is reported in this paper. These red/gray chips show marked similarities in all four samples. One sample was collected by a Manhattan resident about ten minutes after the collapse of the second WTC Tower, two the next day, and a fourth about a week later.
The properties of these chips were analyzed using optical microscopy, scanning electron microscopy (SEM), X-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy (XEDS), and differential scanning calorimetry (DSC). The red material contains grains approximately 100 nm across which are largely iron oxide, while aluminum is contained in tiny plate-like structures.
Separation of components using methyl ethyl ketone demonstrated that elemental aluminum is present. The iron oxide and aluminum are intimately mixed in the red material. When ignited in a DSC device the chips exhibit large but narrow exotherms occurring at approximately 430 ˚C, far below the normal ignition temperature for conventional thermite.
Numerous iron-rich spheres are clearly observed in the residue following the ignition of these peculiar red/gray chips. The red portion of these chips is found to be an unreacted thermitic material and highly energetic.
chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://www.benthamopen.com/contents/pdf/TOCPJ/TOCPJ-2-7.pdf
In Clown World one glances at this and responds with TP for my bunghole… then snickers… then wipes ones bung hole with the paper it was written on …
You cannot win an argument with a fool
it was an inside job so that usa could invade iraq to control their oil use
that’s a good one, yes.
should it be added to the list?
or does it maybe need a “how”?
since your sentence is more of a “why”.
David is obviously a very gullible individual. He always believes the official Gov/Media narrative such as, Saddam Hussein did have WMD, that Covid 19 came from bats, that once you took the CV19 Jab, you would never catch Covid again and that the CV19 vaccines are totally safe and effective.
That Russia invaded Ukraine unprovoked and that Putin needs to be stopped or he will take over the world. He also believes that Ukraine isn’t one of the most corrupt countries on the planet and that it doesn’t harbor NeoNazi’s.
wow you sure have a poor memory of my posts.
SH of course had no WMD
C19 of course was gain of function research in Wuhan initiated by Fauci Baric Daszak Anderson Collins etc.
jabs are toxic, I remain unjabbed
USA/NATZO provoked since 2014
Ukraine totally corrupt and loaded with AzovNazzis
and yet, in light of all the above, I still see loads of unprovable bunnk about 9-11.
22 YEARS of bunnk actually.
Starting to feel the heat David?
The hardcore conspiritard heat?
The ones that religiously believe even the most obvious gaslighting operations put out to make them all look like a bunch of lazy kooks?
The ones that believe every talking point squeezed into amateur docs like Loose Change and then repeat them ad nauseam for 22 years without double checking any of the points to see if they are based in factual reality?
Yep… welcome to the club where you get called names by the likes of FE and Tim who think they have it all figured out but are the most gullible people around and have fallen for the most basic of tricks in the book — “put out lies and repeat them for long enough and these monkeys will pat themselves on the back and do all the work of muddying the waters for us.”
Which is exactly what they do.
These people don’t understand the concept of counter-psyops and they certainly don’t know how to analyze anything. They just go with what feels right to them without any evidence to back up their position.
Actually what they call evidence is a few videos on YouTube that are deliberately structured to support their fantasy.
Curious … how often do you read Huff Post?
I guess I’ll have to repeat myself:
SH didn’t have WMMD
C19 was gain of function research in Wuhan led by Americans like Baric Daszak Collins
jabs are toxic, I’m unjabbed
USA provoked R since 2014
U totally corrupt with many AzovNaazzis
I’m not your strawman.
and yet the CTers for 22 YEARS now have no clue as to what the comprehensive story is.
I’m not your strawman.
The folks who believe the 911 CON… have genetic defects that prevent them from seeing truth.
The folks who believe the deliberately seeded limited hangout, distraction and misinformation campaign run by the same agencies that carried out the attacks… have genetic defects that prevent them from seeing the truth.
Well, we love fossil fuels, and in war and love everything is permitted.
Correct.
Iraq war inquiry
US and Britain wrangled over Iraq’s oil in aftermath of war, Chilcot shows
Iraq war inquiry finds Britain arguing for ‘level playing field’ for its companies in access to oilfields
” planes were flown into buildings on 9/11.”?
Modelled?
” . . . videos not fake, but somethings about the planes were fake . . . “?
https://www.richplanet.net/richp_genre.php?ref=291&part=1&gen=3
“September 11: planes that hit WTC were not Boeing 767s . . .
Pilots for 9/11 Truth, an international organization of pilots and aviation professionals, has pointed out that, according to the manufacturer, the Boeing 767 develops structural failure and dismembers at a speed surpassing 660 km/h when flying at near sea level in thick air. This has also been certified by a former senior NASA executive, Dwain Deets. ”?
https://www.voltairenet.org/article166661.html
“13 Witness Reactions to the Planes on 9/11”?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHHghW4Pg5k
“examination of the option
23:27 trading leading up to September 11th reveals that there was an unusually high level of put buying this finding is
23:33 consistent with informed investors having traded options in advance of the attacks in detecting abnormal trading
23:41 activities in option markets researchers at the University of Zurich used econometrics methods to confirm unusual
23:47 put option activity on the stocks of key Airlines bank and reinsurers in the weeks prior to
23:52 9/11 and in was their abnormal trading in the S&P 500 index options prior to . . . “
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQTyj0g3m_
“As I was running, parked cars were blowing up and some were on fire, the street was cracking a bit as well.” ?
http://killtown.blogspot.com/2006/02/911-rescuer-saw-explosions-inside-wtc.html
“9/11 CNN Pentagon Report – NO PLANE – Only Aired Once
00:00 actually was bob franken with and
00:01 eyewitness who said it appeared that
00:03 that Boeing 757 the American jet
00:06 American Airlines jet landed short of
00:09 the Pentagon can you give us any better
00:12 idea of how much of the plane actually
00:13 impacted the building you know it might
00:16 have appeared that way but from my
00:18 close-up inspection there’s no evidence
00:20 of a plane having crashed anywhere near
00:22 the Pentagon the only site is the actual
00:26 side of the building that’s crashed in
00:27 and as I said the only pieces left
00:30 that you can see are small enough that
00:32 you could pick up in your hand there are
00:34 no large tail sections wing sections a
00:37 fuselage nothing like that anywhere
00:39 around which would indicate that the
00:41 entire plane crashed into the side of
00:43 the Pentagon and then caused the side to
00:46 collapse now even though if you look at
00:47 the pictures of the Pentagon you see
00:49 that the floors have all collapsed that
00:51 didn’t happen immediately
00:52 it wasn’t until almost about 45 minutes
00:55 later that the structure was weakened “
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BNqgNvUhRQ
It was available about 3 years ago!
Now: “This video has been removed for violating YouTube’s policy on hate speech. Learn more about combating hate speech in your country.”
“ . . . out of the 4000 Israelis believed to have worked in and around the WTC and the Pentagon only FIVE died. 5/4000 Israelis. Statistically, with no forewarning about 10% (ie 400 of 4000) would have died; a toll as low as 200-300/4000 would not convincingly indicate foreknowledge. But only FIVE Israelis died and two of the five were aboard the allegedly hijacked flights; thus only three Israelis died in the WTC itself on 9/11. NB – this applies to Israeli nationals, NOT American Jews. Many Jews died in the WTC on 9/11.”
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/9-11/Israel_did_it
“In this poignant half-hour interview, Peter Michael Ketcham tells his story of discovering that the organization where he had worked for 14 years had deliberately suppressed the truth about the most pivotal event of the 21st century. “
Everyone here should take some time to go through these videos…
https://www.youtube.com/@RKOwens4/videos
Just pick one that you feel strongly about… and then consider that you may have been bamboozled by “professional” conspiracy peddlers that are still to this day hawking their books and videos as if they are absolute truth on the subject of 9/11.
WTC7 was NOT a controlled demolition. Prove me wrong.
The Pentagon WAS hit by a plane. Prove me wrong.
Zero evidence of explosives found in the rubble. Prove me wrong.
Were Lucky Larry and others tipped off that day ahead of the “event.” Absolutely. That much we can agree on. As well as other signs that the attack was a coordinated effort carried out by various govt agencies.
“WTC7 was NOT a controlled demolition. Prove me wrong.”
Your still asking the wrong question.
The correct question is, was WTC 7 brought down by fire.
The answer to that is no.
Scientific investigation is not done by deciding cause in advance and then only asking questions that agree with your earlier choice of conclusion, whilst ignoring all other possibilities, hiding your modelling and rewriting the laws of physics (but only for that one day).
That’s called scientific fraud, or just a lie, as it doesn’t really have anything to do with science. Has the shit we’ve been dragged through for the last 3½ years, not made that abundantly clear?
I’ve posted Lynn Margulis(a truly brilliant scientist) before and it’s now been heavily edited to avoid being banned(10min down to under 6), so no mention of the subject, but that doesn’t matter, because science is science and anything else, isn’t.
https://youtu.be/lwjb3I6rjqQ?feature=shared
I’ll try to explain how bad the NIST ‘investigation’ was.
Let’s compare it to a murder.
Women gets shot in the back of the head twice in her own house. She’s then dragged out the door, across the garden and thrown over the fence.
The only movement witnessed was a cat going in the open window.
NIST concluded that the cat must have done it, as no one witnessed any people about.
If you think I’m exaggerating, here’s NIST spokesman Neuman.
Abel: “..what about that letter where NIST said it didn’t look for evidence of explosives?”
Neuman [spokesperson at NIST, listed on the WTC report]: “Right, because there was no evidence of that.”
Abel: But how can you know there’s no evidence if you don’t look for it first?
Neuman: “If you’re looking for something that isn’t there, you’re wasting your time… and the taxpayers’ money.”
Stunning.
I don’t normally intervene much here, but: 5 star Russian general Leonid Ivashov, who was Chief of Staff of Russian armies on 9/11, attended a conference called “Axis For Peace” in 2005, a year after the Beslan school massacre was co-organized by MI6 and CIA. The guy who organized that conference, Thierry Meyssan, was the first journalist to debunk the Pentagon plane theory: it was a cruise missile launched from a cruiser off the East coast (per RU military intel). The rest is poker game. Why do you think the MI6-CIA supported Chechnyan insurrection instantly died off after 9/11? Poker play. Tit for tat.
That’s the first time I’ve heard that about Beslan.
That was a horrific event.
Well… if you look carefully… I didn’t ask a question. I made a statement.
Of fact, by the way.
WTC7 was NOT a controlled demolition.
That’s a statement.
Based on all the evidence that has been publicly available for 22 years.
No explosives were used that day.
That’s another way of reframing that statement.
Here’s another statement.
Conspiracy theorists see a building collapsing from the waist down and assume that it must be because of previously planted explosives i.e. a controlled demolition.
And here’s a question.
Why is it that none of these conspiracy “researchers” mention the fact that building 7 was severely and critically damaged by falling debris with much of its lower floors scooped out and fires raging for many hours on the floors above this damage?
Why is it that they conflate Lucky Larry’s explanation of the “pull it” order given by fire crews with an order to demolish the building?
When “pull it” in fire team lingo simply means to pull everyone back because the building has gone critical and there is nothing the crews can do to put out the fires and stop the severely damaged building from collapsing.
There are other levels of a conspiracy or a false flag attack that can be analyzed and discussed so why is it that the many so-called 9/11 truth movement “professional” groups insist on keeping people in a bubble obsessing over the details?
“Well… if you look carefully… I didn’t ask a question”
“Prove me wrong”
Prove me wrong, is asking for an answer. Everything else you wrote is gibberish. You yet again provide no evidence, continue the lie that lower floors were scooped out by debris, which NIST state didn’t happen and basically just make up any shit, to suit what you want to mislead with at any given time.
Ask yourself why you get so easily triggered.
“[p]articipatory digital propaganda enables the private, everyday identity of users to be occupied and taken over by the institutional actors that propagate it. … It is designed to implement new forms of sovereignty. It is designed to replace networked structures of society with fragmentation and polarization. It helps to pull people apart by forcing them into the role of combatants rather than citizens.”
You’ve been turned into a combatant and you don’t seem to have a clue that it’s happened.
Have you ever asked yourself why they refuse to do the simple tests for explosives. They’ve put a hell of a lot of effort into avoidance, but 22 years later, still refuse to do the simple test that their own regulations insist they do.
You don’t see a problem there?(that’s a question)
How’s the weather in Clown World?
Say hi to norm keith
the 911 fable is bullshit:
https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/79526 https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/80118 https://www.bitchute.com/video/H2RcrIF7onQP/
The thing is …
When someone is mentally ill and captured… they are unable to see the proof…
Are you in the mood for some fun Eddy?
Larry Johnson, in his article about the Pentagon said this
” I CHALLENGE ANY OF YOU CONSPIRACY THEORISTS TO FIND ME ONE NEWS REPORT FROM THE DC AREA THAT AIRED DURING THE SUCCEEDING TWO WEEKS AFTER THE ATTACK THAT CHALLENGED THE REPORT THAT A PLANE HIT THE PENTAGON. JUST ONE. YOU WON’T FIND IT BECAUSE IT DID NOT HAPPEN.”
https://sonar21.com/i-wasnt-going-to-comment-on-the-9-11-attacks-but/
Your first link and a few choice words could result in hours of fun(he bites, real easy).
Another excellent article.
Let’s shift gears…
Clearly 911 was a sham … anyone who doesn’t see that is f789ing stooopid. Just face it … if you cannot understand that you have been played… then f789 you…
You are just plain D-UUUMB as a stump. If it were me — and I was so stoooopid I’d hang myself … to put myself out of my misery…
Let’s move on and discuss why they had to blow up buildings and kill folks and blame that on The Terrorists…
It’s cuz people are delusional… they believe in a world without wars… they are fuelled by stooopid MOREON songs like KOOMbaya and Imagine … they dance about fires with tambourines thumping away and singing that tripe…
Then there’s that f789ed called Jesus… preaching kindness and all sorts of other Bullshit. It’s all rubbish … nonsense… but hey – most people buy into this crap…
Therefore the Elders cannot say – hey f789ers… you like Living Large right — the only way for that to continue is for us to murder and pillage…
The mob would freeak out… they’d lose their minds… All we are saying … is give peace a chance…
No peace only war… so ya’ll can have cash to buy more stuff… that’s the American Dream … off to war we go …
Can’t tell them that… so you gotta blow some of them to bits… blame it on Al-Q… or Saddam or whatever… then hype the mob into a frenzy so they join up and go off and kill kill kill…
Funny how easy it is to get them to stop singing KOOMbaya… cuz basically they are dummmb and thick… easy controlled.
You wouldn’t know the truth if it slapped you in the face.
Just keep wallowing in ignorance and playing with your alter ego made up character for another ten years on here. It makes no difference to anyone else. You’re just wasting your own time repeating whatever nonsense comes your way as if it’s the truth. Which of course it isn’t but it keeps you happy.
Or maybe you’re not that happy and that’s why you spend all your time posting links on OFW and elsewhere as if you are some kind of frontiersman shining a light for others to follow.
Most of the stuff you post is mid-level garbage for bottom feeders and your take on things is quite frankly embarrassing.
A lot of hot air is what it is.
telling that kind of truth will put you at the top of eddys pervlist Tsubion
i cede my position willingly
I think the word ‘happy’ doesn’t do justice to the state of mind of Fast Eddy… HE is quite happy …who wouldn’t be… 6 billion are injected and there’s a daily deluge of SCHAD for fuel his disgust… yes that’s a better word… disgust with the human species…
The sheer f789ing stooopidity of humans is a thing to behold… they believe whatever utter bullshit it thrown at them… if it’s not the Rat Juice it’s the moon — or 911 or whatever… run around by their noses… duuumb as shi t.
In fact Fast Eddy is very delighted with the situation … we are very close to extinction … the im-beciles have — as expected cuz they are MOREONS — injected the Death Shots… and are now in the Kill Box.
How Delightful!!!
Tick tock
You can keep your title Norm, but don’t tempt me. I am sick and tired of the 9/11 conspiracy garbage that, as you said, otherwise seemingly intelligent people keep posting here nevermind the splatter all over the Internet. I thought this place was supposed to hold itself to higher standards of reasoning and investigation. How is it that these minds can know their history, economic theory and the energy predicament to a level that puts others to shame and yet totally lose their minds over the usual conspiracy pitfalls and traps that are placed specifically for that reason?
I have no idea Tsubion—i watch with interested fascination, as people who are obviously intelligent (with certain exclusions) repeat it endlessly.
all that nonsense has been disproven countless times–but it still goes on with a momentum of its own somehow.
Did you know that even if you shout There were no explosives!!! Over and over and over… and jump up and down and have a tantrum…
No matter how many times you do that…. no matter how loud you holler…
That won’t change the facts.
Even a small child eventually will realize that …
Norman, I could dig up military handbook instructions on how to run a disruptive misinformation campaign that has people running around in circles chasing their own tails but I’m sure you know what I mean.
It’s really very simple. When these things happen for whatever reason the perps like to spray a little chaff, run defensive counter measures as they make a clean getaway. As with octopus ink or a ninja smoke bomb they disappear behind a cloud of confusion.
And if the nosy ones get too close, a few patsies get hung out to dry.
We’re still in the distraction phase.
Oh .. so that’s why they blew up Blding 7
I take your point Tsubion
but i dont think there is a ‘reason’ from any quarter—just humankind behaving in a collectively stupid, yet random fashion, which has the look of deliberation.
i dont think it is—but some voices in here seize on it, and insist it is deliberation, hence all the plots and conspiracies.
we must remember too that those same voices only have OFW as an echo chamber, no one in their RL wants to listen—much like the guy on the soapbox in the market square—-everybody rolls their eyes, and hurries by, somehow feeling embarrassed on the speaker’s behalf at what he’s ranting on about.
When someone is mentally ill and captured… and lives a very dull life… they believe all the conspiracy nonsense that comes their way because it makes their life more interesting.
There were no explosives used on 9/11. Fact.
Structural failure caused buildings to fall.
Somebody somewhere benefited from this. That’s all there is to it.
in the centre of the pacific there is a circulating mass of garbage, brought ther by ocean currents beyond anyone’s control
nobody benefits from it—quite the opposite in fact
it just circulates for no reason at all
it’s just ‘there’.
Well, at the end of the day, much of what humans do is inexplicable whichever way you choose to look at it. I guess we really are just biological robots creating landfill and micro-plastic saturated environments.
apparently the garbage dumped into our environment is affecting human sperm count, its dropping at 2% a year
in 300 year that means it will reach zero
problem solved
yes yes!!! In the World of Clowns… what you have said is wisdom…
In a Clown World… a man who can juggle is a god….
But we do not inhabit your Clown World…we work off of logic … facts…
https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/79526
https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/80118
https://www.bitchute.com/video/H2RcrIF7onQP/
https://gab.com/polesowa/posts/111048356003408941/media/1?timeline=video
https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/85762
https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/85775
https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/85776
The same mentally ill people believe this landed on the moon hahahahahaahahahahahahahahahaa
come on man … you’d have to be re tar ded to believe that
https://historicspacecraft.com/Photos/Lunar_Module/LM-2_NASM_RK_2008_11.jpg
I don’t know what happened on the moon. I wasn’t there.
Tsubion, the University of Alaska published a study on the WTC7 collapse and concluded the following:
“The principal conclusion of our study is that fire did not cause the collapse of WTC 7 on 9/11, contrary to the conclusions of NIST and private engineering firms that studied the collapse. The secondary conclusion of our study is that the collapse of WTC 7 was a global failure involving the near-simultaneous failure of every column in the building.”
What could have caused a “near-simultaneous failure of every column in the building” if not explosive charges, regardless of their nature?
Why not ask a demolition expert.
https://youtu.be/877gr6xtQIc?si=tEdoM6NCrcf11VER
Appendix C of FEMA’s BPAT Report (attached to this email) documents steel samples showing rapid oxidation, sulfidation, and intergranular melting.11 A liquid eutectic mixture, including sulfur from an unknown source, caused intense corrosion of the steel, gaping holes in wide flange beams, and the thinning of half-inch-thick flanges to almost razor-sharpness in the World Trade Center 7 steel.
The New York Times called this “the deepest mystery uncovered in the investigation.” NIST left all of this crucial forensic evidence out of its report. Why? Because it didn’t fit in with the official conspiracy theory.
Last year, physicist Steven Jones, two other physicists, and a geologist analyzed the slag at the ends of the beams and in the samples of the previously molten metal.12 They found iron, aluminum, sulfur, manganese and fluorine – the chemical evidence of thermate, a high-tech incendiary cutting charge used by the military to cut through steel like a hot knife through butter.
The by-product of the thermate reaction is molten iron! There’s no other possible source for all the molten iron that was found. One of thermate’s key ingredients is sulfur, which can form the liquid eutectic that FEMA found and lower the melting point of steel. In addition, World Trade Center 7’s catastrophic structural failure showed every characteristic of explosive, controlled demolition. You can see all these characteristics at our website http://www.AE911truth.org.
The destruction began suddenly at the base of the building. Several first responders reported explosions occurring about a second before the collapse. There was the symmetrical, near-free-fall speed of collapse, through the path of greatest resistance – with 40,000 tons of steel designed to resist this load – straight down into its own footprint. This requires that all the columns have to fail within a fraction of a second of each other – perimeter columns as well as core columns.
There was also the appearance of mistimed explosions (squibs?) at the upper seven floors on the network video recordings of the collapse. And we have expert testimony from a European demolitions expert, Danny Jowenko, who said “This is controlled demolition… a team of experts did this…
This is professional work, without any doubt.”13 Fire cannot produce these effects. Fire produces large, gradual deformations and asymmetrical collapses.
Thermate can produce all of these effects used in conjunction with linear shaped charges. If the thermate is formed into ultra-fine particles, as has been accomplished at Los Alamos National Laboratory, it is called super-thermate, and is very explosive.14
The National Fire Protection Association’s NFPA 921 Guide for Fire and Explosion Investigations (1998 Edition) dictates in fire investigations that certain residues should be tested for. Thermate would leave behind signs of sulfidation/corrosion by sulfur. Such residues were in fact noted in Appendix C of the FEMA BPAT report (see note 11).
“If the physical evidence establishes one factor, such as the presence of an accelerant, that may be sufficient to establish the cause even where other factors such as ignition source cannot be determined.”15 Thermate and sulfur obviously qualify as accelerants in this case (with regard to the destruction of steel which in turn could have caused the near-free-fall-speed collapse). (The fires were not particularly suspicious, but Building 7’s collapse was, because of its symmetry and speed.)
chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://www.nist.gov/system/files/documents/2017/04/28/AE911Truth-NIST-Written-Submission12-18-07.pdf
I do not expect the DelusiSTANIS to change their minds after reading this … any more than a MOREON would suddenly realize we cannot fly through the Van Allen Belts or that the Rat Juice is neither safe nor effective.
Not sure how many times you have to repeat the same thing until someone gets it but here goes…
We can feel your frustration — those facts are difficult to counter aren’t they… maybe if you scream louder they will cease to exist.
eddy
Not sure how many times you have to repeat the same thing until someone gets it but here goes…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWpC_1WP8do
The statements made by that report are so hilarious I’m actually shocked that anyone would post it as a serious attempt to make a point!
“fire did not cause the collapse of WTC 7 on 9/11”
Well… not just fires no.
The bottom floors of WTC7 had been scooped out by massive amounts of debris from the other towers.
The fires acted on the exposed columns for half a day before the fire team pulled everyone back and watched the building fall.
“a global failure involving the near-simultaneous failure of every column in the building”
The entire building above the affected floors and the scooped out base came down virtually in one piece and toppled over slightly into neighboring buildings. Once the crumpling begins and the building starts to move of course the columns are going to be ripped apart from all their joints etc. That’s what you would expect to happen in a structural collapse due to extreme damage which is exactly what we witnessed.
To the untrained and extremely gullible mind, what we saw can be conflated as a controlled demolition because from a certain angle the building appears to fall into its own footprint at freefall speed etc.
But that didn’t happen. And people are still repeating the lies put out by others who want to stir the pot and cause confusion.
Funny how WTC3, WTC4, WTC5 and WTC6 were closer to WTC1 & 2, and suffered much greater damage, but still didn’t collapse like a house of cards, unlike the building that housed IRS Regional Council or U.S. Secret Service.
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1033508/pg7&mem=
Again… each building collapses or doesn’t based on its own criteria. No explosives were used that day. That has been debunked to death over 22 years.
It’s like saying the plane that hit the Pentagon had to pull an extreme maneuver so it could hit the precise spot that held some records of something or other.
Or it simply had to pull an extreme maneuver so it could get low enough to strike the side of the building.
Just because people post it on the Internet and it goes viral doesn’t make it true.
Debunked by the same fact checkers that debunk the assertions that the Rat Juice is not safe and effective – right?
It would be fascinating to read studies on people who are unable to see obvious truths… what goes on their minds? Do they have brain damage? Is it lack of intelligence? Did their mothers drop them on their heads when they were babies? Is it a simulation that does not allow them to see certain things?
I am truly fascinated by this topic.
“The bottom floors of WTC7 had been scooped out by massive amounts of debris from the other towers.”
To use your own words in reply
“that didn’t happen. And people are still repeating the lies put out by others who want to stir the pot and cause confusion.”
Don’t believe me, ask NIST
“None of the large pieces of debris from WTC 2 (the south tower) hit WTC 7 because of the large distance between the two buildings.”
“fire did not cause the collapse of WTC 7 on 9/11”
Your shocked by this statement from Hulsey are you. Where you shocked when NIST said it, because Hulsey’s study was in direct reference to this very claim by NIST.
You knew that though didn’t you?
Here are NISTs own words.
“How did the fires cause WTC 7 to collapse?
The heat from the uncontrolled fires caused steel floor beams and girders to thermally expand, leading to a chain of events that caused a key structural column to fail. The failure of this structural column then initiated a fire-induced progressive collapse of the entire building.”
“Would WTC 7 have collapsed even if there had been no structural damage induced by the collapse of the WTC towers?
Yes. Even without the structural damage, WTC 7 would have collapsed from the fires that the debris initiated.”
“Did debris from the collapse of WTC 1 cause damage to WTC 7’s structure in a way that contributed to the building’s collapse?
The debris caused structural damage to the southwest region of the building-severing seven exterior columns-but this structural damage did not initiate the collapse. The fires initiated by the debris, rather than the structural damage that resulted from the impacts, initiated the building’s collapse after the fires grew and spread to the northeast region after several hours.”
Damage, but no floors scooped out at all and in no way did it have anything to do with the mechanisms of collapse. At least according to NIST.
Back to your own words.
“Actually what they call evidence is a few videos on YouTube that are deliberately structured to support their fantasy.”
Yes, I looked at a couple of videos on the utube site that you posted multiple times as some alleged form of evidence. Shockingly made rubbish.
Give us some real evidence why you think your in any position to dismiss Hulsey’s study, or even NISTs conclusions. Have you even read either?
“the building appears to fall into its own footprint at freefall speed”
NIST says
“Stage 2 (1.75 to 4.0 seconds): gravitational acceleration (free fall)”
Took them about 7 attempts, but they admitted it. 2.25 seconds of free fall, so it didn’t just appear to, it did.
I’m all for alternative views, but some substantiation, that amounts to more than a link to some utube obsessive, would enhance your chances of being taken seriously.
So far, all you have done is demean anyone and everyone that questions the flawed, contradictory and ever changing official narrative, and proven your righteousness with the ‘evidence’ of a utube crank.
I’m far from convinced, so far, but still willing to listen to reason.
We need to start talking from a point we can all agree on. You, me Hulsey and quite a few here agree that NISTs fire theory is not the cause, so what do you think caused it and do you have any evidence that you believe confirms this?
“The Pentagon WAS hit by a plane. Prove me wrong.”
“9/11 CNN Pentagon Report – NO PLANE – Only Aired Once
00:00 actually was bob franken with and
00:01 eyewitness who said it appeared that
00:03 that Boeing 757 the American jet
00:06 American Airlines jet landed short of
00:09 the Pentagon can you give us any better
00:12 idea of how much of the plane actually
00:13 impacted the building you know it might
00:16 have appeared that way but from my
00:18 close-up inspection there’s no evidence
00:20 of a plane having crashed anywhere near
00:22 the Pentagon the only site is the actual
00:26 side of the building that’s crashed in
00:27 and as I said the only pieces left
00:30 that you can see are small enough that
00:32 you could pick up in your hand there are
00:34 no large tail sections wing sections a
00:37 fuselage nothing like that anywhere
00:39 around which would indicate that the
00:41 entire plane crashed into the side of
00:43 the Pentagon and then caused the side to
00:46 collapse now even though if you look at
00:47 the pictures of the Pentagon you see
00:49 that the floors have all collapsed that
00:51 didn’t happen immediately
00:52 it wasn’t until almost about 45 minutes
00:55 later that the structure was weakened “
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BNqgNvUhRQ
It was available about 3 years ago!
Now: “This video has been removed for violating YouTube’s policy on hate speech. Learn more about combating hate speech in your country.”
https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/79526
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1wQ2BJsgx0
“I just think that it was a plane with more than just fuel. I think obviously they were very big planes, they were going very rapidly because I was also watching where the plane seemed to be not only going fast, it seemed to be coming down into the building. So it was getting the speed from going downhill, so to speak. It just seemed to me that to do that kind of destruction is even more than a big plane because you’re talking about taking out that steel, the heaviest calibre steel that was used on a building. I mean, these buildings were rock-solid. And it’s just an amazing thing. This country is different today, and it’s going to be different than it ever was for many years to come”.
https://nakedemperor.substack.com/p/donald-trump-thought-bombs-exploded/
Donald Trump thought at the time of Sept. 11 that the steel was so strong that it would take a bomb to take the building down. More than just a plane flying into it.
This was not about planes, its plain to see, this idea is just the over-ton window people of low intellect / imagination are guided/allowed to wrangle over.
If you are still thinking that 9/11, weapons of mass destruction and safe and effective are real you are part of the problem.
Climax change? Never been climax change EVER b4!! Period!
I use to say wake up, now I say f-off and live your miserable and ignorant life.
How about those melted windows and alloy wheels in the Hawaii 50 fires?
And the fires that followed the legal property boundaries?
Don’t think this was another Paradise Valley clearance?
Oxygen wasters, even on here.
It’s the tyranny of high expectations.
I don’t expect cats and dogs to know or care about all this stuff, so I don’t think any less of them when I find them to be clueless about everything.
With humans, my expectations are higher. But that’s my problem.
Agree – let them believe what they want — the good thing about this is that now we have the Rat Juice… so there are severe consequences for being an MORE-ON.
We need to be delighted by this development
“Climax change? Never been climax change EVER b4!! Period!”?
The Undesigned Universe – Peter Ward
“ . . . it is these ocean state changes that are
1:02:28 correlated with the great disasters of the past impact can cause extinction but
1:02:35 it did so in our past only wants[once] that we can tell whereas this has happened over
1:02:40 and over and over again we have fifteen evidences times of mass extinction in the past 500 million years
1:02:48 so the implications for the implications the implications of the carbon dioxide is really dangerous if you heat your
1:02:55 planet sufficiently to cause your Arctic to melt if you cause the temperature
1:03:01 gradient between your tropics and your Arctic to be reduced you risk going back
1:03:07 to a state that produces these hydrogen sulfide pulses . . . “
not to mention:
Recent climate change may originate from structural and exothermic phase changes in the nickel-iron core of the Earth, and not primarily from man’s activity alone. Lattice structure (phase) changes in sloughed (shed) core material releases latent kinetic energy (heat) which flows to the asthenosphere and abyssal ocean depths, thereby becoming genesis of the majority of observed climate change, greenhouse gas forcing, and long-associated geomagnetic dipole phenomena.
Indeed, the Earth can be likened to a thermos bottle; however, its reality is that of a leaky one. What’s even more crucial is that we haven’t explored 95% of this realm to a sufficient level of scientific diligence. Our science in this matter is mere boasting.
Excellent – the MOREONS will believe the vax injuries are long covid and they will take more booster shots of Rat Juice.
Needless to say … I am delighted!!!
https://live2fightanotherday.substack.com/p/long-covid-vax-conditions
How many of the supposed long covid cases are really vaccine injury cases?
There is no such thing as long covid so all the excess symptoms that are materializing are from the jabs and the mask wearing. Both are capable of producing micro-clots and this in turn leads to symptoms of fatigue and other anomalies.
Long Covid is about as common as Long Flu… as in extremely rare… and is no doubt something that affects old busted half dead people with many co-morbidities … and poor immune systems
Long Covid is almost exclusively Rat Juice injury.
But we don’t want the Vaxxers realizing this cuz we want them shooting more Rat Juice to ensure a steady supply of SCHAD
If it is exclusively a thing of the Rat juice then why call it Long Covid.
Covid does not exist as a unique set of symptoms and therefore the disease is entirely fictional.
You call it Long Covid so that the MOREONS believe that Covid is a deadly/severe disease… and they take more Rat Juice to stop them from getting Long Covid.
This strategy works extremely well with MOREONS
Long Covid was a thing before vaccines started to be rolled out. It is a thing.
Like long flu — it happens but is rare… the reason they made it a thing … was to frighten the MOREONS into injecting Rat Juice…
Remember when they promised no covid one injected Rat Juice? No covid = no Long Covid…
Another great reason to inject the toxins.
Of course that was all bs…
And let’s not forget how they murdered with Remdeath and Midaz… again inspiring fear to convince the MOREONS to inject Rat Juice.
All bases covered
Suckers was played… played like banjos…
Long lasting symptoms have always existed especially after bouts with pneumonia etc. so why would you label these symptoms Long Covid?
Was it because you were told to do so by (not so) sophisticated propaganda?
This, indeed, gives me great hope!
The greatest IQ test, ever, continues to deliver.
USA seems to be earnestly pushing for a ‘freeze’ to the UKR conflict. They know that the UKR offensive has failed and that Russia is going to achieve the objectives of its SMO and USA hopes to spin it as Russia’s ‘failure’. ‘Just lie.’
Whether Russia will agree to a freeze is another matter. Russia is likely to take Kharkiv oblast in the NE, and Mearsheimer reckons that Russia will take another 4 oblasts along the east. We will see what Russia decides to do.
Alex is in the park today with a pussy cat. I use the wheel icon to watch vids on 2x speed these days, I am just so impatient lol.
Surely they must be close to running out of styrofoam!!!
Didn’t watch this, but…Russia had might consider launching its “all out offensive” sooner rather than later to secure a buffer zone all the way west to the Dnieper River and south to the southern coast including Odesa.
If there is a “pause” in the fighting, conveniently coinciding with onset of the muddy fall season which makes a major offensive impractical, UKR could then offer “terms” to make it look like they have entered peace negotiations knowing that Russia has no intention of ending the war simply because UKR is only stalling for time to rearm and rebuild.
Russia knows that any “pause” in its military action would be spun as having “agreed” to a peace deal and that Russia, ever the “aggressor,” was reneging on the deal that had never existed in the first place.
What is needed is Gandhi-like figure to show Pooty how to turn the valve
It does sound like work on an armistice is underway.
Too fkn late.
Minsk I and Minsk II demonstrated that NITO is nat 2b tristed.
Thear wurds r nit wurth the piper thay b witten on.
“I am just so impatient lol.”
The stench of necrophilia hangs about the OP. But those who can, do – like Lucy Letby – and those who can’t, like the OP, just watch videos and drool.
So what’ll OP do after the war ends? Maybe he’ll write admiring letters to his heroine Lucy in prison. Or maybe he’ll find new victims to mock. Deluge in Libya, many dead? “Glug-glug-glug. LOL!”
All of the silly propaganda from the western media is collapsing, and UKR is now open that it is both outmanned and out gunned by Russia.
“Ukraine’s deputy defense minister has admitted: ‘We have to recognize that the enemy is strong, that he has more men and more weapons,’ Maliar said.
I always said that the constant lies about how the UKR conflict is going are just stupid. A lot of dunces actually made it a matter of ‘decency’ or ‘loyalty’ to misrepresent the course of affairs. That leads only to defeat.
https://warnews247.gr/kravgi-apognosis-apo-to-kievo-i-rosia-echei-anaptyxei-420-000-stratiotes-se-anatoliki-kai-notia-oukrania/
Cry of despair from Kiev: Russia has deployed 420,000 troops in Eastern and Southern Ukraine
“We drop eight times less ammunition on the eastern front”
Russia has deployed more than 420,000 troops in eastern and southern Ukraine, Vadim Skibitsky, deputy head of Ukraine’s military intelligence service, said today.
“The Russian Federation has deployed more than 420,000 troops in our temporarily occupied territories, including Crimea,” Skibitsky said at a press conference.
This number “does not include the Russian National Guard and other special structures responsible for maintaining the occupying force on our territories,” he added.
Over the past month, Russia has been using Ukraine’s Crimean peninsula to “attack port infrastructure” in southern Ukraine, he said.
“The drones deployed in Crimea are being used against our ports of Ismail and Reni,” which used to transport Ukrainian grain across the Black Sea until Moscow pulled out of an international agreement in July, the Ukrainian official said.
For her part, Deputy Defense Minister Hana Maliar said that Russia expects to recapture areas in Kharkiv province (north-eastern Ukraine) that were liberated a year ago by the Ukrainian army.
“They want to take revenge,” he noted.
“Their mission in the east is also to disperse our forces so that we cannot concentrate them in the Bahmut area where we are advancing successfully.”
Russia’s military continues to have the advantage over Ukraine’s in terms of weaponry amid the slow-moving Ukrainian counteroffensive that has been underway since June, Ukraine’s deputy defense minister has admitted.
“We have to recognize that the enemy is strong, that he has more men and more weapons,” Maliar said.
Last week alone, the Russian military fired “almost 400,000 shells” against Ukrainian positions on the eastern front, while “we can use eight times less” ammunition, he concluded.
Incredibly I needed to change country to open it.
I see that this article is in Greek. The ads aren’t ones I would expect from a mainstream media report. (ads for body building and to meet women). So, in some sense, this is still an alternative media report.
I never see ads on that site or any other. Everyone uses ad blocks like the extensions for Chrome these days. I hope that the ads were not too steamy.
They did let me see what kind of site it was, which is my reason for looking at ads.
I would not be surprise if that the site may be blocked in some countries and in others not.
Maybe US doesn’t think that anyone would ever open a Greek site, written in Greek…
Or maybe you still have more freedom of speech.
A far as the ads are concerned , my guess is that they probably don’t make ‘tailor made’ ads with cookies, that’s probably why you saw bodybuilding, plus sites to meet women, which it is the target they probably think is correct for them or more probable…
It was also considered “a matter of ‘decency’ or ‘loyalty” for individuals to inject experimental drugs for the “safety” of the herd.
How’s that decency and loyalty going for the injectees?
Biden’s staff decided to ‘just turn that demented pr/ck off’.
Sections of USA have got some front having him as president.
You would think that the Democratic Party would start to figure out a problem.
Of course, there is a huge jet-lag problem after a person has traveled half-way around the world, and this problem is likely especially severe for someone who is older. It seems like quite a bit of the problem, in this particular situation, might be blamed on jet lag.
Pfft… jet lag. The conspiracy theorists will say that Joe is either a holographic projection beamed down by a DEW orbital platform or at minimum an actor wearing a mask. The more radical CTs are already loudly proclaiming that this is all a simulation and therefore none of this really exists, we’re just NPCs bumping into each other.
But just in case this is real… you American’s (and the rest of us unfortunately) have got Kamala Harris to look forward to.
China solar module prices dive to record low:
https://www.pv-magazine.com/2023/09/08/china-solar-module-prices-dive-to-record-low/
The competition is driving the prices lower so perhaps companies are losing $.
But this is the trend:
Global PV manufacturing capacity to reach 1 TW by 2024.
Well, I’m for solar especially if there aren’t alternatives.
But It’s not like people can relocate to sunny areas (which tend to have less water).
Maybe it will work for a while….
Until the grand solar minimum hits (it’s utterly amazing that it’s projected to hit soon; not like global warming which missed it entrance)
This is a chart that goes back further. It shows that the price of solar panels had dropped to $0.27 per Watt in 2021 in US$. This new chart starts with a price of $0.23 per Watt in the beginning of 2023. The recent record low is about $0.15 per Watt. The price has been dropping for a long time, it and dropped by a disproportionate amount recently.
There seems to be an excess inventory issue.
“Module suppliers in Europe are facing a heavy inventory burden, so much so that this is a “red sea market,” a source at a leading module manufacturer said.”
Too many manufacturers. Too many buyers finding that the modules don’t really fix their fossil fuel problems, as hoped.
Ed Sheeran Announces Postponement of Las Vegas Show Hour Before: ‘I’m So, So Sorry’ Alexis Jones Sun, September 10, 2023 at 4:13 PM EDT
The singer announced on Instagram that the show has been rescheduled for Oct. 28 and “all purchased tickets will be valid for that date”
“I can’t believe I’m typing this but there’s been some challenges encountered during the load in of our vegas show. It’s impossible to go forward with the show. I’m so sorry,” Sheeran announced.
know everyone has traveled in for this and I wish I could change it,” he continued. “The gig will be postponed to Saturday October 28th and all purchased tickets will be valid for that date.”
Although Sheeran did not specify what the “challenges” were that caused him to postpone his show, Allegiant Stadium’s cited “technical issues”
Ah, hope those issues will pan out…hope he gets the latest designer jab too
Electric cars have a road trip problem, even for the secretary of energy
September 10, 2023 Camila Domonoske
https://www.npr.org/2023/09/10/1187224861/electric-vehicles-evs-cars-chargers-charging-energy-secretary-jennifer-granholm
The auto industry, under immense pressure to tackle its contribution to climate change, is undertaking a remarkable switch to electric vehicles — but it’s not necessarily going to be a smooth transition.
….Her advance team realized there weren’t going to be enough plugs to go around. One of the station’s four chargers was broken, and others were occupied. So an Energy Department staffer tried parking a nonelectric vehicle by one of those working chargers to reserve a spot for the approaching secretary of energy.
That did not go down well: a regular gas-powered car blocking the only free spot for a charger?
In fact, a family that was boxed out — on a sweltering day, with a baby in the vehicle — was so upset they decided to get the authorities involved: They called the police.
The sheriff’s office couldn’t do anything. It’s not illegal for a non-EV to claim a charging spot in Georgia. Energy Department staff scrambled to smooth over the situation, including sending other vehicles to slower chargers, until both the frustrated family and the secretary had room to charge.
…..Carmakers have hundreds of billions of dollars of investment on the line, and they are embracing Tesla’s technology and teaming up with rivals to try to tackle the charging problem. Meanwhile, the U.S. government is pouring billions into a nationwide network of electric chargers, trying to fix the very problem Granholm was encountering.
…Ultimately, we want to make it super-easy for people to travel long distances,” Granholm told me.
But as she knows, long-distance travel in non-Tesla EVs is not always “super-easy” today.
Problem 1: Planning is cumbersome
Problem 2: Not enough chargers
Problem 3: Not fast enough
Problem 4: Not reliable enough
The road to the future
Those private-led efforts — as well as the muscle and money provided by the government — could prove a game changer.
“The private sector has stepped up,” Granholm told me toward the end of her road trip. The response to federal incentives has been, as she put it, “a blockbuster.”
Granholm has long been an energetic and optimistic pitchwoman for the electric vehicle future, even before her current position.
On her road trip this summer, she made the case again and again that switching to green energy and clean cars will save money, create jobs and promote national security, on top of being a crucial component in the plan to fight climate change.
“If you’re not persuaded by climate change or you think it’s not happening, well, you should be persuaded by lowering the costs,” she told me.
Yep, 👍😊 whatever you wish for can be with a little help from your friends…Ringo Starr
this week’s article by The Honest Sorcerer should be mandatory reading
https://thehonestsorcerer.medium.com/right-for-the-wrong-reasons-66f122923012
Thanks for pointing this out. Hubbs also mentioned this very fine article. I commented a little on his mention of it.
Not to mention the problem of generating all of the extra electricity for these vehicles. Also, making all EV so they will charge using the same connection still doesn’t do anything for the problem of not enough of them being available. Without any paid attendant, vandalism (to obtain copper wiring) is likely a problem as well.
At most, EVs are a fancy toy for the rich. They can charge them at home, whenever enough electricity seems to be available. They probably won’t drive very far, however, because of the huge problems of on-the-road charging.
MOREONS BUY EVS
Only MOREONS
The good thing is … there is no future
First 8-minutes covers the latest take in Detroit on a UAW strike.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EMh96HdUZA
It’s an ideal time for a strike, especially since many EV battery-plants under construction are so far behind schedule. The UAW is intimately involved in the process of getting those completed, so there are a bunch of great excuses and finger-pointing going forward which help cover-up inept planning.
In my opinion, UAW leadership is beyond hypocritical in their recent fairness arguments, particularly in light of how long they have played the role of a corporate-union – for example, allowing a caste-system of temporary employees to metastasize over a couple of decades now. I watched one interview where it took a woman 16-years to reach full-pay and she also had to relocate as plants were shut down. Wonder if they took union dues out of her pay. The temp agency sure got its cut.
I am wondering if this strike is like a lot of others: The profits of the industry are not really high enough to cover all that the companies are trying to do right now. Perhaps a few executives can get very high wages, but this won’t be the case for everyone. They can’t make both EVs and ICE cars, and (lose money on the EVs). They have a hard time paying workers enough.
At the same time, prices for the vehicles are too high for a whole lot of consumers. They cut back on what they buy. And the loss of wages for the workers during the strike will push the overall economy toward recession.
The UK shipping industry have said that they need £2 billion per year to decarbonise.
A company has built an electric hydrofoil that is a gamechanger. If only they could get their hands on enough investment.
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/the-flying-ferry-between-belfast-and-bangor-will-launch-in-2024/42016284.html
but surely that can only be applied to a small scale passenger ferry—it seems so anyway
the problem seems to be with vastly bigger ships
Yes, when they invent an electric freighter they’ll have my full attention.
Back to the future … didn’t we have international flying boats 90-100 years ago and hovercraft across the English Channel in 1960? Of course they used those cheap liquid fuels that are now running a bit short.
There is still a hovercraft from Portsmouth to the Isle of Wight, I believe.
People preferred ferries. Hovercraft couldn’t fit many cars and people found them noisy, turbulent and nauseating to travel on.
That’s hate language against hovercraft, Missus. You ought to be fined for that. I had a nice day trip to Boulogne in France in 1980, crossing from Dover, IIRC. Very smooth and pleasant trip – not nauseating at all. The sea was calm, though, but doesn’t the hovercraft ride on a bed of air, anyway? Could they cope with stormy seas?
Yes I think stormy seas are another problem for hovercraft. They can’t keep the cushion of air in place if the sea isn’t calm, so aren’t safe to sail.
Although I believe small versions are very useful for rescuing people from mudflats and swamps, etc.
if hovercraft were any use at scale or size, beyond those currently in use, they would be used in thousands of applications, everywhere
they are not
that factor explains their limitations, can’t see what the argument is about.
Hey Fast Eddy, I got one for ya. Take it for a spin, see what you think. If you crack it open with Actual Intelligence maybe they’ll give you an access pass for the underground bases where you can pair up with all those missing Ukrainian Babes. You might even be immortalized as a New Nimrod when the new myths are written.
https://carnicominstitute.substack.com/p/the-source-of-blood-coagulation-cross
Ran across this subject matter from Frances Leader’s post where she links a couple of Carnicom’s video interviews.
https://francesleader.substack.com/p/craig-venter-hacking-the-software
Clifford Carnicom’s compiled archive is at:
https://carnicominstitute.org/research-library-listing/
It’s interesting to consider the idea that Solar Radiation Management (geoengineering) since at least 1999, was at some point paired with bioengineering.
I’ve wondered occasionally over the years about Ronald Reagan’s statement back in the Glasnost days about all nations coming together around a threat from space. We generally presumed he was talking about aliens but those old wood-cut prints from the Middle Ages showing the fear of comets and of passing through their tails might point to a different understanding.
>>We generally presumed he was talking about aliens
Well he did use the term “alien threat”
oh man, it’s hard to get any traction over here, crack me up. Uh, different kind of “alien”, pardon me. I’ll even take the devil’s advocate for a moment on this subject. What if TPTB are doing everything they can think of to protect as many people as they can? What would you do if you had satellites capable of detecting these organisms and plenty of disease-causation evidence beyond what Clifford Carnicom has been able to muster up? Who knows, maybe the spraying in our skies is not about solar-radiation management but some sort of deterrence. That’s a stretch since it goes so far back, but whatever. An organism from space is not something they’d be able to reveal to the population, right? Doing that could be way worse than anything they have done so far, especially if they don’t have an antidote. But, what if there is one? Take a look at the live-blood comparison from 17:34 to 17:56 in this interesting video. She notes that amazing change came after two IV-EDTA chelation treatments.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/SaV2OyroJZkL/
>> Clifford Carnicom
I can’t believe anyone wastes time with this crap.
Well, riddle me this paper published in 2014:
Profound Morphological Changes in the Erythrocytes and Fibrin Networks of Patients with Hemochromatosis or with Hyperferritinemia, and Their Normalization by Iron Chelators and Other Agents
Have you said the same thing about the idea that there’s a strange blood-coagulation and associated fibrin-string phenomenon afoot – or is it staged?
If you are (and I have zero idea since I don’t keep track of your posts) among those who blame the vaxx for this clotting/coagulation, and then come across Carnicom’s pre-vaxx documentation of the same, what is an appropriate response? Ignore it? When before-after slides show vast improvement of coagulation and fibrin as a result of EDTA Chelation? Cross-Domain Bacteria or not (jury’s out on that in my book), did you bother to identify that remedy and bring it to anyone’s attention over here? Didn’t think so.
>> Have you said the same thing about the idea that there’s a strange blood-coagulation and associated fibrin-string phenomenon afoot – or is it staged?
I don’t know if it’s “strange” or not, but I assume there are a lot of possible blood conditions out there and metals can be bound by proteins, so it makes sense that metals could cause protein aggregation and fibril formation and perhaps various chelators could reverse that.
As for this guy, I briefly clicked through the video and saw that he spoke for about an hour and provided no data, so he’s a windbag. I wasn’t going to spend time looking into him and his ideas after such poor signal/noise ratio.
I am afraid I don’t understand. I found another article about this on the website here:
https://carnicominstitute.org/a-source-of-global-harm-the-cross-domain-bacteria-cdb-proteins/
It is probably in your listing below.
Another good summary by the Honest Sorcerer who cites Gail’s dilemma of “oil being priced too low for producers but too high for consumers.” he also mentions Jevon’s Paradox. Also the feasibility of breaking long chain hydrocarbons to get lighter chains like gasoline, but the non-feasibility and excessive cost to combine light chains like what we get from fracking to form the middle length chain hydocarbons like diesel, which are what we really need most to maintain our mining, manufacturing and transportation systems upon which our civilization depends.
Plus I like the easy to understand diagram of the petroleum distillery. To complete the diagram, to the right of each form of distillate I would draw the things that each type of distillate powers, from natural gas peaker plants and fertilizer production, to jet engines, to diesel trucks and farm tractors, to old fashioned home heating oil used in New England, and finally to asphalt to pave roads to make things simpler to understand so that we can get others on board.
https://thehonestsorcerer.substack.com/p/right-for-the-wrong-reasons?utm_campaign=email-post&r=16win7&utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
Thanks for pointing this article out. We need the message to get out through many different writers, adding their own perspectives. It was nice of him to cite me.
And I agree with you. People need to understand how important each of the oil products are, and for what uses.
The point that just substituting away from gasoline doesn’t get you very far is a good one. It seems like I made that argument years ago, but I haven’t mentioned it much recently. Too many modelers (and the general public) are convinced that “oil is oil” and “energy is energy.” This is far too simplistic an understanding of how the economy really works.
Dmitry Orlov talked about the gasoline fraction issue with oil many many years ago too.
The UK government has received a report from the National Infrastructure Commission about the costs of decommissioning the national gas grid. This is so we can reach net zero.
The cost of digging up the 176,000-mile network of buried pipes is estimated to be £65 billion, which is £2,300 per household.
Apparently the pipes needs removing once the gas gets cut off because otherwise they could decay and cause the roads to collapse.
It so insane. They really are thinking of ripping our gas infrastructure out when there is nothing to replace it……I need to get another wood burning stove asap.
This sounds like another way to use fossil fuel energy. Clearly, they will have to damage the roads to dig up this pipe. Resurfacing the road will take a lot of fossil fuel energy. The one perhaps “benefit” is is that it would provide employment for quite a few people, probably based on more government debt. The pipe, in theory, could be recycled for other purposes, also using more energy and providing more employment.
If there are fewer goods and services going forward in the future, this whole undertaking doesn’t sound like a very good idea.
Plus it is all stored iron. But iron is not in short supply.
Last year the government were preparing to send hydrogen to people’s homes using the existing gas pipes. But in the communities where this was going to be tested, people refused.
So now we appear to be planning to destroy our own infrastructure. Has any civilisation done that before?
Around half of UK energy is from gas. What am I supposed to use to heat the house and cook the dinner?
65% of Denmark is connected to heat networks. More proven than the UK notion of individual heat pumps, less problem of your radiators being too small. Basically, two insulated pipes (a flow and return).
In the UK, however, only the gas and electricity industries seem to have the lobbying power. So the Danish technology stands less chance of being considered. (It was being assessed in the UK 45 years ago, because in the 1970s oil and natural gas were considered for a while to be scarce resources.)
China and Sweden have used the heat network approach, too. Or maybe they are somewhat different.
China uses excess heat from coal fired power plants to heat the district heat pipes. I am not sure what Sweden uses (or used).
In the US, the push for profit from the individual firm has kept us away from more efficient energy approaches. Also, as local coal supplies deplete in China, and as air pollution is perceived as an increasing problem, electricity production is moved away from cities, making this approach less practical.
Thanks for this.
I had no idea Denmark has heat networks.
Tea lights, Mrs S, tea lights…….
The UK and much of Europe appears to be entering a suicidal death spiral. The self-organizing system is balancing itself as it has done many times before, growing to its full potential according to the available resources and then shrinking back to a new state of equilibrium. Maybe some other organism takes our place or we regroup to try a new approach.
At the end of a civilization, sure. The word “dilapidated” has to do with the practice of de-(lapide=stone)-ating old buildings (eg., the Coliseum) for re-purposing the material in a humbler context.
It won’t happen… we will soon be extinct
How delightful!
He changed his mind https://docmalik.substack.com/p/my-podcast-with-richard-gage-about
Good interview. We all know Richard Gage. Great that he is on the ball about the Plandemic too:
“Richard became interested in researching the destruction of the WTC high-rises after hearing the startling conclusions of a reluctant 9/11 researcher, David Ray Griffin, on the radio in 2006, which launched his own unyielding quest for the truth about 9/11. The organization he founded, AE911Truth, now numbers more than 3,500 architects and engineers demanding a new investigation into the destruction of all three World Trade Center high-rise buildings on 9/11.
“Richard had to leave the organisation he founded when he claimed that Covid was a Plandemic and had similarities to 9/11.”
Perhaps we all need to keep in mind, “Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power tends to corrupt absolutely.”
Does anyone have any idea why Tucker and Rogan … don’t interview this guy???
Just-issued Corbett video traces the similarity of the two events from the “security”/governance angle:
https://odysee.com/@TLAVagabond:5/TDWU-9-10-23:5
I work in federal government and both 9/11 and the c19 pandemic caused them to release a colour-coded scale of how high the “threat” was at any given time.
Why do they keep telling porky pies about this…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWpC_1WP8do
So many architects and engineers and no one of them can provide conclusive evidence that explosives were used on 9/11.
Do they make money selling books and videos by any chance? Do they take donations for their hard work exposing the “truth” about 9/11?
Of course they do.
GW Bush himself said the towers were blown up with explosives.
https://gab.com/polesowa/posts/111048356003408941/media/1?timeline=video
hahaha – nice!!!! Notice that he read that statement from a pc of paper… he didn’t ‘mis-speak’
Watch again Toobion:
https://gab.com/polesowa/posts/111048356003408941/media/1?timeline=video
Former 9/11 Commissioner, Tim Roemer, slips up in a CNN interview and says a missile caused the damage to the pentagon and then quickly corrects himself to line up with the official story of an airplane hitting the building.
“no one of them can provide conclusive evidence that explosives were used on 9/11.”
Tsubion, I have a comment awaiting moderation that might give you an answer on that. There was after all one type of evidence that they couldn’t destroy. Manhattan was literally covered in it.
Take a few minutes to address each clip.. you can fill in the blanks for us.
And btw – it’s like showing you 1+1= 2 … and you insisting it’s not … without any evidence.
Ignoring facts does not make you right… unless you are mentally ill
https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/79526
Explanation:
https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/80118
Explanation:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/H2RcrIF7onQP/
Explanation:
People can’t bring themselves to think their government could do such a thing. They just can’t. The facts don’t make any difference.
The best clip is where the plane emerges from the other side of the tower … it just passes right through the steel without damage… fascinating
Hey Eddie
Rather stupidly I posted your links on the comments of Rod Dreher’s substack.
I also posted my link of Bush saying there were explosives in the towers.
https://roddreher.substack.com/p/tearing-of-the-veil
To my surprise I have succeeded in angering and upsetting his readers who told me to ‘get mental help’.
Apparently Bush ‘mis-spoke’.
I never realised so many people are so invested in the ludicrous official narrative.
Mrs S
years ago, i found out the hard way about eddylinks
they are mostly BS clickbait, harvested randomly —I have eddy on auto-ignore anyway, can’t help seeing the odd comment here and there as they crop up, but never ever click on one of his links.
Keep in mind there are paid trolls who have alerts for anything that challenges the narrative… and they rush in to post their insults … and collect their commissions
(Splash – marittime news)
IMEC corridor (US backed), BRI corridor (China backed) and INSTC corridor (Russia backed), the new fights for trade… and let’s not forget the new Panama difficulties
”US and EU back new transport corridor linking India with Europe (IMEC corridor)”
[…] The IMEC, seen as a counter to China’s Belt Road Initiative (BRI), will be comprised of two separate corridors, the east corridor connecting India to the Arabian Gulf and the northern corridor connecting the Arabian Gulf to Europe.
[…] Ursula Von der Leyen, the president of the EU, described the project as a “green and digital bridge across continents and civilisations.”
She also announced a Trans-African Corridor connecting the Angolan port of Lobito with landlocked areas of the continent: the Kananga province in the Democratic Republic of Congo and the copper-mining regions of Zambia.
In related news over the weekend landlocked Bhutan and India agreed to establish the Himalayan kingdom’s first internationally connected cross-border railway with India’s northeastern region giving Bhutan a maritime outlet.
[…] Other alternate routes to Europe are also emerging. Splash reported in May on the long-planned International North–South Transport Corridor (INSTC), a project originally launched by Russia, Iran and India in 2002. The INSTC is a 7,200 km long multi-mode network of ship, rail, and road to move freight between India, Iran, Azerbaijan, Russia, Central Asia and Europe. The objective of the corridor is to increase trade connectivity between major cities such as Mumbai, Moscow, Tehran, Baku, Bandar Abbas and Astrakhan. Russia claims the project could ultimately rival the Suez Canal in terms of trade flows.”
https://splash247.com/us-and-eu-back-new-transport-corridor-linking-india-with-europe/
About Panama (maybe only temporary, but it reduces trade Pacific-Atlantic oceans): “shipping is having to contend with the fact that draft and transit restrictions (for Panama canal) are here to stay at least through until the end of the first half of next year.”
https://splash247.com/panama-canal-latest-how-each-shipping-segment-is-being-impacted/
Just a note on narrative control. While the rest of the world and the International Hydrographic Organization call it by its original and historic name of Persian Gulf, the US media panders to the Arab world’s sensitivities by referring to it as the Arabian Gulf.
Interesting point.
According to what I found so far, the name Persian Gulf was used since Ancient Greeks, Romans and middle age time.
With Strabone and Tolomeo using that definition regularly.
The attempt to change the name started around 1955-60 from UK and then of course US to probably side with Saudi.
Persia/Iran is since a long ago a powerful country and UK and US has always tried to contrast it.
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disputa_sul_nome_del_Golfo_Persico
I watched a documentary which explained that during the starting period of Islam they were conquered by Arabs, but they never accepted Arab culture and they went on promoting their culture and language.
Same thing happened later when the Mongols devastated them.
Every ruler needed to become Persian in order to rule.
The documentary is the following one, divided in three part. Of course under a western perspective, but I think something still acceptable.
I liked a lot.
I hope you find a way to watch it.
Thanks for this: stunning architecture/achievement/perseverence.
In this piss-pot country (NZ) our mis education followed the western regime diktat of mis-direction, mis-information and mis-sing in action with regard to a real understanding of the history of such countries.
Oh that we could hold to account the low-lifes that made sure it would take a lifetime to undo the damage done unto us during our formative/enquiring years.
It was not by accident methinks; programming ocurred well before fortron/microdaft/.Bill Snakes and his ilk
Lots of ways that fossil fuels can be used to enhance transportation in the future, but this transportation still will need fossil fuels, primarily oil. It is doubtful that all of it can work, but perhaps some shorter distance segments can be helpful. The self-organizing system determines what can actually be built and used profitably.
Yes, I agree that they cannot stand all of them.
I think that for ‘self-organizing system’ unfortunately that means that will include the use of force and the preparation of unscrupulous strategies, by each side, to prevail.
You are probably right.
Dear Gail, please forgive this out of context post. It actually resulted from thinking about subjects like maximum power principle and beauty. How they might relate, for instance A hopeless task…
With Jobim it’s easy to win 🙂
Beautiful
Very pleasant music.
Student and Gail, thank you.
Love me some forro, but regrettably nowadays the genre has been completely subverted (is there anything that these globalists touch and does not turn into shit?). It survives in back alleys at the Feira Nordestina in Rio. Have less respect for Jobim, a clear cut member of the privileged class who could spend his life doing nothing. Not surprising that his music was further hijacked.
Having lived in Leblon, there was a certain bar where Jobim would spend hours writing songs, about 200 meters from my place, where I went maybe a dozen times. There, when there was music, it was still genuine carioca music.
Sabia version from the king of forro.
Forró? How about this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LhcXFRRkqw
(Aula de Forró – Nível avançado – Saulo Rangel e Adrise Nogueira – Feira de Santana – Bahia)
[1,556,414 views Jun 20, 2013]
Awful!
Gigolo music, for wiggly-bottomed beach-lounging sodomites.
Nothing compared to the Jota: ‘the sound’ as the poet wrote ‘of trumpets and clashing swords!’ Or the Fandango!
Latinos are just ghastly, my dear: a mix of everything and nothing. No backbone, literally……
drb753, I was happy to learn of your deep knowledge of a center of Brazil where music is formative. Beyond that I think we’re talking past each other. I don’t think any form of recorded music is untainted. (100’s of years ago I saw a mention of the notion in a quote by Adorno.)
But the decline of music/culture seems to mirror the decline in civilization’s resources/standards. We don’t believe there’s a fix for that.
It’s the jazz in Jobim’s sound that attracts me to his music. Issues of class and morals are too complicated for me to speak about. There isn’t a fix for much that ail us.
MILITARY DRILLS are about to take place in the Black Sea and in the Baltic Area.
What are our opinions about a hot war Nato-Russia and an excessive use of oil?
Is it just a show?
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/8/7419026/
https://english.alarabiya.net/News/world/2023/09/11/NATO-Baltic-Sea-drills-focus-for-first-time-on-high-end-warfare-eying-Russia-s-war
https://report.az/en/other-countries/nato-to-launch-biggest-military-exercise-since-cold-war/
NATO “drills” in the Black Sea including Ukraine, which is already a war zone? Looks like the plan is escalation and NATO entry.
Perhaps part of this is simply a way to increase the price of oil, since all of these exercises use more oil. With a higher price, perhaps more can be extracted. But it may well be a prelude to escalating the conflict, since there ultimately isn’t enough to go around.
But wouldn’t escalation be tricky due to this…
https://www.thebulwark.com/why-nato-cant-move-into-the-black-sea-and-save-odessa/
Can NATO do anything to allow Ukraine access to Black Sea trade routes?
Probably not.
The first possible option would have been to create land routes around the naval blockade. But there simply aren’t enough trucks to make up for the volume of goods cargo ships can carry, and even if there were, they would realistically only be able to move goods to Europe, rather than to the whole world as ships can.
What about having NATO forces escort cargo ships through the Russian blockade, daring the Russians to try and bully the American Navy rather than just defenseless merchant sailors?
This, too, is impossible because of the Montreux Convention of 1936. Under that treaty, countries along the Black Sea get special naval privileges, and other countries are strictly limited in what ships may enter the sea (for example, no aircraft carriers or submarines), how many at a time, and for how long.
Turkey, which controls the straits linking the Black Sea to the Mediterranean, gets to decide how these rules are enforced, and Ankara has been wishy-washy on whether it either wants to or even can use its privileges under the treaty to disrupt Russian operations.
Now, the United States isn’t a signatory of the Montreux Treaty, so technically these rules don’t apply to the U.S. Navy. But American warships have traditionally respected them anyway—not least because of the ten countries which are signatories, eight are U.S. allies: France, the U.K., Australia, Romania, Bulgaria, Greece, Turkey, and Japan.
More to the point, asserting our right to use this legal technicality would mean sailing a U.S. warship right through Istanbul.
Interesting points!
Pooty should counter NATO by … turning the tap…
If anyone has Pooty’s email address please send this to him
https://youtu.be/0MyvS5lacgE?t=28
As we move towards super insulated and sealed homes, the outdoor air quality plays more and more important role, as this air is supplied into the interior for maximum energy efficiency. The decision for nuclear power implementation instead of coal has got no alternative, only some partial renewable energy alternatives.
Except, of course, that it is not at all clear that nuclear energy is sustainable. Uranium mining has the same issues that fossil fuel extraction has: The best deposits are extracted first, leaving lower quality and harder to access deposits until later.
Also, Russia and Kazakhstan are heavily involved with this. Kazakhstan is the biggest miner; Russia is by far the largest processor. With this dynamic, trying to expand nuclear electricity generation is likely a no-go, except perhaps for a few countries friendly to Russia.
The real renewable energy that has been used historically is burned biomass. This tends to cause a lot of soot and smoke. It is hard on people’s lungs, especially when used indoors. It is hard to see an alternative to this. Of course, there isn’t a whole lot of this. Trying to use burned biomass for 8 billion people wouldn’t work very well.
But they love you
CIA May Have Tested Biological Warfare in New York in ’50s, Church Says
The Central Intelligence Agency may have been involved in “open air” biological warfare tests in streets and tunnels in the New York City area in 1955 and 1956, according to an analysis of CIA records released yesterday by the Church of Scientology.
The four-month analysis suggests that The CIA purchased supplies for experiments that included the dissemmation of unknown substances for aerosol devices mounted in suitcases and in the exhaust of a specially modified 1953 Mercury, according to the church’s report.
The church’s analysts said they examined about 600 pages of CIA financial records that were part of the agency’s MK-ULTRA mind control experiments. The documents have been made public by the CIA during the last 2 1/2 years.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1979/12/04/cia-may-have-tested-biological-warfare-in-new-york-in-50s-church-says/0872f274-58c6-4184-bde3-50d1ecef0573/
Would they blow up tall buildings and blame the terrorists … so that they could justify multiple invasions???
Yes.
“Operation Big City,” way back in 1955 and 1956? We live in a strange world.
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/last_circle/15.htm
This is quite a long write up about the history of germ warfare before 1992. It looks to be material submitted for some kind of investigation.
It is linked to from this web page:
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopol_depopu.htm#menu
The title of this page is “Depopulation of Planet Earth”
This menu page links to a huge number of related items. The first three items in the long list are:
– Africa’s Frankenfoods – Why Is the Gates Foundation Helping Monsanto Push Genetically Modified Food?
– A History Timeline of Population Control
– AIDS – Man-Made
AUSTRALIA: ‘We’ve been constantly sick’: Why we can’t kick the ‘yo-yo flu’
Australia is grappling with the “yo-yo flu”, where cold symptoms continually return, as a sharp rise in respiratory infections has been driven by an early flu season, continuing cases of COVID-19 and the circulation of nasty viruses.
Sydney pharmacist Sylvia Thai said she and her family had been sick intermittently for the past several months, and believed it was a byproduct of low natural immunity.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/we-ve-been-constantly-sick-why-we-can-t-kick-the-yo-yo-flu-20230907-p5e2v0.html
*flu season starts in Australia because of the earth’s slight tilt on its axis.
Excellent – this demonstrates that the Rat Juice is working very well indeed…
All that is required now is that second lab made virus…
And the dying will being (I tremble with excitement typing that .. just as Hoolio does when he spots a rabbit)
I do not exaggerate by very much ins saying that half of the people in my little valley have caught a cold and tested positive for the ‘Rona in the past two months.
And this afternoon, my American friend and neighbor and his Japanese wife turned up at our door and told us that they were getting over a bout of it. They are elderly and have had five jabs each. And they are visibly thinner than they were at this time last year.
I very kindly didn’t comment on that, and I didn’t say “It would have been worse if you hadn’t been boosted.”
Instead, I asked them how they caught it, and they said they must have picked it up sitting in a hospital waiting room for two hors wearing face diapers.
So the masks and the jabs DO work, just not in the way most people suppose they do.
Needless to say … I am very much delighted by this report from Japan!!
Needles to say? 🙂
Anyway, stay tuned and I’ll try to report on what happens during the real colds and flu season.
Hopefully I will be extra delighted as winter arrives!
According to this theory expect countries which had the ‘vaccine’ before the virus to do badly. In other countries, people who had COVID before being injected may be better off than people who did it in the reverse order.
A Professor Christine Stabell-Benn, Denmark, said in 2021 or -22 that the AZ was less harmful than the mRNA ones. I don’t think she mentioned J&J; it wasn’t used in Europe. If so there’ll be sub-groups of the jabbed who do less badly than other sub-groups.
In my view, even if FE’s apocalyptic hypothesis comes true, 35% of the world’s population would still be around and I assume they’d say ‘Bloody hell, what the **** do we do now?’ Presumably, after burying the dead, carry on pumping oil, growing food, heating their buildings …
In ~1349, the plague wiped out ~50% of England’s population. FE’s prediction would be terrible for Oz, NZ, Canada or Ireland but Bulgaria, Moldova and Serbia are only ~35% jabbed and unofficial figures in UK suggest ‘only’ 65-70%.
Growing their food??? Who does that?? Those that do would still starve – cuz those that don’t would kill them and eat their food.
Then… the cancer…
I will now attempt to cure your normalcy bias:
There are 4000 Spent Fuel Ponds Around the Globe…
If you don’t cool the spent fuel, the temperature will rise and there may be a swift chain reaction that leads to spontaneous combustion–an explosion and fire of the spent fuel assemblies. Such a scenario would emit radioactive particles into the atmosphere. Pick your poison. Fresh fuel is hotter and more radioactive, but is only one fuel assembly. A pool of spent fuel will have dozens of assemblies.
One report from Sankei News said that there are over 700 fuel assemblies stored in one pool at Fukushima. If they all caught fire, radioactive particles—including those lasting for as long as a decade—would be released into the air and eventually contaminate the land or, worse, be inhaled by people. “To me, the spent fuel is scarier. All those spent fuel assemblies are still extremely radioactive,” Dalnoki-Veress says.
It has been known for more than two decades that, in case of a loss of water in the pool, convective air cooling would be relatively ineffective in such a “dense-packed” pool. Spent fuel recently discharged from a reactor could heat up relatively rapidly to temperatures at which the zircaloy fuel cladding could catch fire and the fuel’s volatile fission product, including 30-year half-life Cs, would be released. The fire could well spread to older spent fuel. The long-term land-contamination consequences of such an event could be significantly worse than those from Chernobyl.
http://science.time.com/2011/03/15/a-new-threat-in-japan-radioactive-spent-fuel/
Japan’s chief cabinet secretary called it “the devil’s scenario.” Two weeks after the 11 March 2011 earthquake and tsunami devastated the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant, causing three nuclear reactors to melt down and release radioactive plumes, officials were bracing for even worse. They feared that spent fuel stored in pools in the reactor halls would catch fire and send radioactive smoke across a much wider swath of eastern Japan, including Tokyo.
https://energyskeptic.com/2017/the-devils-scenario-near-miss-at-fukushima-is-a-warning-for-u-s/
The Chernobyl accident was relatively minor, involved no spent fuel ponds, and was controlled by pouring cement onto the reactor. This was breaking down so a few years back they re-entombed.
Estimates of the cancer burden in Europe from radioactive fallout from the Chernobyl accident
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16628547/
However, many of the radioactive elements in spent fuel have long half-lives. For example, plutonium-239 has a half-life of 24,000 years, and plutonium-240 has a half-life of 6,800 years. Because it contains these long half-lived radioactive elements, spent fuel must be isolated and controlled for thousands of years.
It’s ok to believe there is a major conflict in UKY – or that we been to the moon …
But with the Rat Juice… https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/85630
funny, whether true or not
The machines are here to allow us remain humans: without masks making us younger, smarter etc., straining, working faster and faster for lower and lower wages and any activity disguising our nature of extinguishing bioreactors.
If we are here to copy the machines, i.e. disguising our human nature, then this is unsustainable.
I ❤ machines.
You’re a lovin’ guy!
“The Machine,” they exclaimed, “feeds us and clothes us and houses us; through it we speak to one another, through it we see one another, in it we have our being. The Machine is the friend of ideas and the enemy of superstition: the Machine is omnipotent, eternal; blessed is the Machine.” – E. M. Forster, The Machine Stops, 1909
How our understanding of the home has changed:
Now, the home is a place with an optimum air temperature and quality.
We achieve that with tightly insulated homes, ventilation with heat recovery, cooling and dehumidification.
We copy the optimum human environment existing in some limited areas on the Earth using the energy efficient technical devices.
I ❤ houses.
Not very sustainable, unfortunately.
How deafening have been the aclaimations of achievement at the G20 meet around where you live?
the iconic Japan Times in a lead story sourced AFP-JIJI and REUTERS ran with “Group of 20 leaders papered over deep divisions on the war in Ukraine and tackling climate change Saturday, avoiding direct criticism of Moscow and any concrete pledge to phase out polluting fossil fuels.”
japantimes.co.jp/news/2023/09/09/world/politics/g20-summit-india-african-union
It surprised me that the green nonsense couldn’t gain any traction … from further below the salt at the G20
“Critics have accused the U.S. and its allies of using international platforms to introduce contentious issues in their attempts to win over the Global South and swing it to Washington’s position on the most divisive issues at hand, such as the Ukraine war.
“Experts believe that has made international conferences less productive, but have praised President Modi for making the G20 agenda very broad …
“There was a very noticeable difference of the text on Russia’s role in the Ukraine war in comparison with last year’s G20 summit statement in Bali, with all references to “Russian aggression” or “Russia’s withdrawal” regarding the conflict in Ukraine that was present in the 2022 statement now removed.”
tehrantimes.com/news/488920/Divisions-emerge-at-G20-summit
I ❤ FF.
As long as they can get their central bank digital currency and digital ID plans passed at the G20, nothing else really matters.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/HKauzbkUMI90/
“ . . . under a fully-functional CBDC system, these 98 percent or so of all transactions would be digital and would require similar energy and hardware costs to those currently incurred by Bitcoin. That is, instead of the 144TWh per year used by Bitcoin, CBDCs would consume some 7,056TWh – more than three times the UK’s total 2019 energy consumption of 2,185TWh… In an increasingly energy-constrained global economy, it should – but likely won’t – be clear that programmable CBDCs are a non-starter… a solution looking for a problem to solve indeed! “ ?
https://consciousnessofsheep.co.uk/2023/02/08/cbdc-bait-and-switch/?fbclid=IwAR0SiB_yriPZCOiFTmwAn8rv2Fz9IuvxOYTTRF6i2JCun21ow5JQqJQTGig
“In an increasingly energy-constrained global economy…”
That’s all anyone really needs to extract from these “reports” these days. Everything else flows from there.
Also, I have never understood why crypto has to be “mined” digitally and why everyone accepts this as “proof of work” etc.
Surely a nation state or region could simply issue currency the good old fashioned way and tie it to real world commodities other than gold etc.
I would calculate the available usable energy supply and tie it that.
Oh wait… isn’t that what the Petrodollar is?
The digital currency, and the plan to tie everything to it, seems to be primary.
But this plan still seems to be tied to electricity availability, and the ability of current governments to stay in power. If the world organization starts fracturing, nothing can be worldwide.
China and Russia were not present at this G20 conference. It seems likely it cannot be part of the plan.
Facepalm – President Modi? What next, President Rishi Sunak of UK or President Trudeau of Canada? Don’t these journalists know that India, the largest democracy in the world, has a system of governance modeled on the Westminister system, just like most of the erstwhile colonies of the UK? It’s Prime Minister Modi (like PM Sunak, PM Trudeau, PM Albanese, PM Lee-Hsien Loong and so on. Sad state of education…
Green nonsense can’t get any traction worldwide.
Must be great fun – a conference discussing two fake issues!!!
People who want the return of Ghengis Khan or some other barbarian can wait for them.
But if they arrive the chance for humankind to reach space is lost.
No country which was ever conquered by the Mongols escaped unscathed.
The barbarians in Canada, who twice f’ked up civilization, are no better than the mongols.
I ❤ Earth.
I strongly agree,……all wealth is 4 footed and heavily furred.
The only cuisine worth having is boiled beast.
Dirt grubbers and city dwellers should be put to the sword.
This simulation was designed for yak herders and ice fields.
The rest of you should get used to the idea.
You know we’re in space already, way out.”
– Alan Watts
Exactly. We’re already on a pretty decent life-supporting space ship. We just need to balance the books a little and we’ll be fine.
@FlatJustitia
https://ourfiniteworld.com/2023/08/31/fossil-fuel-imports-are-already-constrained/comment-page-6/#comment-435369
My answer
People like me blindly follow the laws of civilization since there are no other way.
People like me do hold the fort and prevent a general collapse.
The Pinkerton guy who handcuffs the Dicaprio character in Titanic, and later goes down with the ship, is the kind of people who kept the world from entering into a chaos.
When the Soviets attacked the town of Maoka in Sakhalin, there were 9 young girls in the telephone station who relayed messages to the retreating Japanese forces to make sure they could leave the port, now called Kholmsk by the Russians, safely. The girls took cyanides when the first Russian soldiers entered their facility.
In an earlier post I cited the example of the Kageyu (inspector) in the movie hara-kiri. Tl, dr, a disgruntled samurai came to the lord of a fief and he told the Kageyu to take care of it.
Kageyu Saito : The ronin from Hiroshima, Hanshiro Tsugumo, committed hara kiri. All our own men died of illness. The house of Iyi has no retainers who could be felled or wounded by some half-starved ronin.
:::::
Kageyu Saito : This world does not bend to sentimental tales.
))))
The movie was obviously made to criticize the politicians and officials, who sent millions to death and killed millions more, but showing no remorse and now getting fat on Japan’s expanding economy. But in retrospect the side of the Kageyu won while the complainers have passed into the backstory of books nobody reads.
The world is run by machine-like beings, no longer humans. I was raised that way, to have zero emotions and a clear understanding of the world which is usually not palatable to the common folk, but it has served me well and I have no intention to change the way I see the world.
People like me make the world work.
If it isn’t one thing, it is another:
https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/who-biden-working-admin-under-fire-illegal-reckless-cancelation-anwr-oil-leases
Biden is doing a super job bring down America.
Leaving more resources for some more efficient economy later.
I’ve given up on trying to figure out who is pulling the strings.
Novax wins the US Open!!!!!!!
amazing beautiful fantastic glorious wonderful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOiBBmlZ404&ab_channel=Jean-YvesThibaudet-Topic
Joie du sang des etoiles!!!!!!!
Joy of the blood of the stars.
oui?
???
Joie du sang des etoiles!!!!!!!
I spotted this yesterday https://i.postimg.cc/0yrztL6N/RIP.jpg
MOREON
Springsteen, Guns N’ Roses postpone shows; Linda Evangelista, Kimmi Scott have breast cancer; Eric Braeden has bladder cancer; Stephen Gould has bile duct cancer; Megyn Kelly “regrets vaccination”
Whoopi Goldberg, “triple-vaxxed,” down with “COVID” (for the third time); Kourtney Kardashian’s “urgent fetal surgery”; Pauley Perrette’s “near-death health crisis”
https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/p/springsteen-guns-n-roses-postpone
Bit of a mess….
Sorry to hear about Whoopi feeling under the weather again.
I guess that next booster can’t come soon enough for her.
Let’s hope that a touch of cancer slips past her poisoned immune system … SCHAD
Don’t worry. She’s wearing a surgical mask and has isolated herself in her own house. So everything should be A-OK.
If the jab was such a success then why is it that the most highly jabbed countries, Australia, US and UK continue to have high excess deaths.
Yet in lower jabbed countries ….Bulgaria, Hungary et al excess deaths are actually way down.
It’s a consistent pattern and Dr John Campbell has the receipts;
https://youtu.be/naopp_KF678?si=DNx5TAEuz7PjUu08
This is a very good video. Mortality remains elevated in highly vaccinated countries. (Terrible in Australia.) John Campbell asks the question, “Why isn’t main stream media all over this issue? Why am I the only one talking about it?
Why don’t norm and keith join us … to discuss the video
norm?
keith?
Discuss!!!
John Campbell asks the question, “Why isn’t main stream media all over this issue? Why am I the only one talking about it?
There are simply too many powerful people with blood on their hands.
A crime against moronity.
but norm keith are still alive – tick tock….
This Is What Happens When You Don’t Jab Kids: Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated Data
https://vigilantnews.com/post/this-is-what-happens-when-you-dont-jab-kids-vaccinated-vs-unvaccinated-data
This looks like a very good analysis of vaccinated versus unvaccinated children (all types of vaccination, not just covid). It points back to this academic study. The rates of many diseases, including autism, ADHD, and allergy are much higher in the vaccinated groups.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/317086531_Pilot_comparative_study_on_the_health_of_vaccinated_and_unvaccinated_6-to_12-year-old_US_children
I am very sorry for this and deeply sorry for the personal experience you have had with autism.
Dennis L.
some plagiarism here…
Things started to get weird in my town. You could feel it in the air. The sirens were wailing all the time and everyone seemed to be in a hurry. Things had been slowly ramping up to crazy for a long time. Two or three times a week, the obituary in our local paper was publishing notices of people who had “died suddenly”. What was predicted to happen seemed to be happening. But this was different. What was different about it was it resembled the model that Geert Vanden Bossche1 had talked about last year. Had an “immune escape” variant just emerged and was it now infecting and killing the vaccinated?
https://lawrencebutts.substack.com/p/an-excerpt-from-the-second-dark-age-009
Quite good SF. Although not quite The Road. Lawrence is imaging a possible near future and reminiscing on it from ten years on.
Year 1 of the Vaccine Genocide (Part 1)
When all this craziness began back in 2020 and I made the decision to refuse the vaccine, I began (as best I could) to try to find out what the hell was going on. My “something is not right” alarm pushed me to learn as much as I could. So by the time 2024 arrived, I had a pretty good idea of what was happening with the “vaccine”. I look back now and thank God I had my head screwed on straight. Because what was to come was completely beyond most people’s ability to understand…let alone deal with.
It first started at a hospital in Buffalo, New York. Reports started to come in from the alternative media that Mercy Hospital was being overwhelmed with Covid cases and people were dying of an extremely aggressive variant. The authorities and Big Pharma had been playing wack-a-mole with the new variants for some time. New variants would emerge that seemed to be able to infect the vaccinated in spite of the antibodies generated by the Spike Proteins in the vaccine. A new “vaccine booster” would be created to then provide the type of antibodies that would recognize the new variant and protect the vaccinated. The last “booster” was issued and injected into the vaccinated in September of 2023. It was tailored to protect against an obsolete variant from the Omicron class of sub-variants and therefore was worthless against the newer sub-variants that were at the time making the vaccinated sick. None of that seemed to matter to anyone. People “felt” protected and that was all that mattered. Except they weren’t protected at all.
Within a week, other hospitals in the Northeast started to become overwhelmed with a new deadly variant of the original virus. People were apparently dying as quickly as 5 to 7 days after showing symptoms. Nothing seemed to be able to even slow the progression of the virus, let alone stop it. The mainstream media reported little at first, as it began to happen. Then as it became harder and harder to not report about it, they started to give bits and pieces about what they believed was happening on the East Coast. There was nothing to be alarmed about. The authorities had it under control. In spite of the rumors that the new variant was only making the vaccinated sick, the authorities assured the public that “everyone” was at risk from this new variant. This of course was a lie.
https://lawrencebutts.substack.com/p/an-excerpt-from-the-second-dark-age-009
This seems to be a work of fiction.
It’s set in the future that awaits us… it’s rather amateurish … there is no darkness to it
Canadian Prepper did his most resent show about a possible 10% kill virus and the government response. It is FULL of darkness.
Veteran, 33, almost dies, loses leg to flesh-eating bacteria
Source: today.com
Long and short, what should have been a case of strep throat instead turned into this:
‘The flesh-eating infection that almost took Jennifer Barlow’s life — and ultimately her leg — started with vague symptoms that escalated quickly.
It was January 2023, and the U.S. Army veteran had just come back from a vacation in the Bahamas.
At 33, she was “healthy as an ox” and a regular gym-goer, she says.’
‘But as she returned home to Atlanta, Barlow started feeling a little off, then very weak. After lying in bed for four days, she noticed her right knee started “ballooning up” and became red and hot to the touch.’
‘The veteran was diagnosed with necrotizing fasciitis, a rare infection with bacteria that can cause “flesh-eating disease,” the CDC notes. Even with treatment, up to 20% of patients die, according to the agency.’
‘Patients need “aggressive radical surgery” to remove as much of the dead flesh as possible, so doctors kept having to take out the soft tissue of Barlow’s thigh — the skin and the underlying tissue, he adds.’
‘Barlow’s infection was caused by group A strep, a particularly virulent form of the bacteria that cause strep throat, Pollock says.
It’s the most common cause of necrotizing fasciitis, the CDC notes. Healthy people can get streptococcal necrotizing fasciitis, but it most commonly affects people who have a weakened immune system, it adds.’
Oh, so strep throat is just supposed to be strep throat, not a deadly infection leading to sepsis? Yeah, that’s what I thought. And I thought that because it was always true before the shots.
https://www.thechadrabbit.com/p/the-rise-of-the-medical-emergency-5bd
Aldous Huxley:
Medical science has made such tremendous progress that there’s hardly a healthy human left.
I like that quote.
I stay as far away from doctors’ offices as possible.
Your happiness in life will be the inverse of the number lawyers you have to deal with.
An even better one:
“Doctors are men who prescribe medicines of which they know little, to cure diseases of which they know less, in human beings of whom they know nothing.”
Voltaire
Mark 5:26 still seems to be true today. A woman with a hemorrhage is described as follows:
“And had suffered many things of many physicians, and had spent all that she had, and was nothing bettered, but rather grew worse,”
How it is possible that Argentina has got regulated low energy prices for its population (e. g. monthly electricity bill is 10 times lower than in the EU), but suffers such a big inflation?
Is that not because of its ever rising population and the need for imports of the industrial products?
Will the dollarization proposed by Javier Milei help?
I don’t know details, but conceptually there’s no contradiction: print a lot of money to subsidize energy bills and in so doing devalue the currency and making things generally more expensive / create inflation.
I found this article from 2021. Note that this article is from Fitch Ratings, talking about downgrading the country’ credit rating.
https://www.fitchratings.com/research/corporate-finance/unsustainable-argentine-electricity-subsidies-raises-cash-flow-risk-01-06-2021
Unsustainable Argentine Electricity Subsidies Raises Cash Flow Risk
Argentina seems to be trying to game the system with respect to oil prices, as well. This approach can’t work out well, either.
Bloomberg says (August 2023)
Argentina Fixes Oil at $56 a Barrel to Put Lid on Inflation
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-08-18/argentina-fixes-oil-at-56-a-barrel-to-put-inflation-in-check?sref=eWpk04kZ
Measure will slash revenues of shale drillers by about 11%
These sound like “fixes” that politicians do to hide problems from citizens. Subsidizing the electricity price using monetary expansion is not a long-term solution–it causes inflation and a drop in ratings by credit agencies. Capping oil prices means that the country is likely to get less oil. Their own producers will stop producing.
@FlatJustitia
https://ourfiniteworld.com/2023/08/31/fossil-fuel-imports-are-already-constrained/comment-page-6/#comment-435372
I answer
Sure, a lot of places in USA will turn into barbarism and the Southwest will return to deserts.
However there are some nice spots with good farmlands
>Dmitry Orlov said, US it will one of those places that nobody goes to and does not matter. How much do you know about Somalia?
Unlike Somalia, which has nothing, the Great Lakes region, New Orleans region and some isolated spots here and there are enticing.
It is unlikely that it will fall down to Somalia.
After the die-off New England will be a pleasant place.
With respect:
Ed, I think many will find that a group is necessary and many who had talents which were very specialized will find those talents not useable and have not a great deal to contribute.
Sure, easy to scoff at from an elevated, intellectual position; I think many of those pontificating have become engaged in circular reasoning in very isolated groups, e.g. academia, high level of policy decisions, etc.
Building a group and maintaining it is a circus.
I see this up close, part of it is a church, a regular meeting place, a regular repeating of a simple set of rules and a regular reminder that there is hope and a reward at the end of one’s life.
You were, I believe, a physicist. I hear many physicists and mathematicians coming to the conclusion that in the universe there are too many coincidences of parameters which were they different would cause the universe not to exist. Someone/thing/entity has their thumb on the scale.
New England probably will be pleasant, but the time between then and now will be very bumpy or as per my current meme:
“Forty Miles of Bad Road”
Dennis L.
Humans do need to be part of a group. They need some agreed-upon set of rules to live by. It is helpful if they can help each other in some ways. Religions seem to further this process.
Hillary Clinton has a book called, “It Takes a Village,” talking about the fact that it takes more than parents to raise a child. They can be part of a religious group, or it can be grandparents, aunts, uncles and cousins.
In my opinion, part of what is going wrong today is that the “group” has become to big and too diverse. The rules are no longer agreed up. Some people have too much power. And, as we heard recently, “Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
“In my opinion, part of what is going wrong today is that the “group” has become to big and too diverse.”
That is consistent with the Amish near me; they purchase and maintain very nice farmland and they have very neat, orderly homes.
Dennis L.
Dennis, Gail, I agree a group is needed.
I disagree on the finely tuned variables. The variable are what they are and life is what can exist with the existing variables.
My background as a physicist has near zero post modern survival value. On the other hand most every thing is 90% keep plugging along. So, I have at least that.
Ed,
You can learn very easily and quickly. Physics has many uses as a foundation.
Dennis L.
It seems possible that the buffoonly of M. bin Salman of Saudi Arabia might be because Ghawar is indeed running out.
Ghawar has been running out for quite a while, but even pumping seawater does not appear to be working
If Ghawar runs out before the projects of Keith and Dennis L’s projects succeed, back to horses for transportation.
Any hard data on the fall of KSA would be enjoyed.
Saudi Arabia’s cutbacks in production certainly point in the direction of increased problems with extraction.
” horses for transportation.”
I can’t predict the future. Being an engineer with a fairly broad range of science, I can state what is possible. Post nanotech it’s so simple it is just stupid. This side of the singularity is much harder. Just rough numbers, 90 square km of solar cells will make enough power to make 1/3000 synthetic oil to replace the nature stuff. So Saudis Arabia could make and export all the oil they do now using CO2 out of the air and sunlight to make power.
I sort of doubt they will though. The technology we have now is expensive and takes a long time to build. If Ray Kurzweil has the timeline right, we may not run out of fuel before we run out of history.
After things change, I am not sure anyone will bother with wind. But it is a sure thing that wind turbines in salt water will not rust.
90 sq km of solar cells in saudi is just using arithmetic again Keith
prob with solar cells in desrts, is dust—that requires constant washing off.—with water,
in any event, producing liquid fuels from air costs 7x as much as getting it out of the ground.
might be cheaper in the future–but I’m guessing not
We have an oil dependent economy—if oil costs 7x as much, we will not have a viable economy
“in any event, producing liquid fuels from air costs 7x as much as getting it out of the ground.”
My engineering analysis is that synthetic oil would coat around $100/bbl. The largest contribution that cost is the platinum that goes into the cells for making hydrogen. The pieces needed have been deployed at scale.
Do you have a number for what it costs to get oil out of the ground? There are taxes and profit involved, but oil is currently around $90/bbl.
I.e., can you justify 7x?
//////https://www.hydrogeninsight.com/transport/first-e-fuel-made-from-green-hydrogen-and-co2-is-100-times-more-expensive-than-petrol-but-costs-should-plummet/2-1-1423373////
quote from article:
/////In other words, almost six times more renewable energy would be required to power a car using e-fuels, compared to a battery electric alternative — with all the added expense that would entail.//////
agreed, costs could fall—but I dont think the above equation will change–ie the amount of energy needed to produce e-fuels—so you would be putting more energy in, than getting energy out.
on that basis you would be trying to run an industrial economy using an earth sized battery
investment of “$trillions”—mean nothing
money is only a token of energy exchange.
If the energy isnt there to ”exchange”, then you would just be priniting money.
And if you just print money, you will be into hyper-inflation in short order. That will destroy the economic system necessary to support the production of efuel itself. No industrial economic system can withstand hyper inflation
Is Saudi cutting oil really going to bring in more money? Or are they protecting what they have left. Hard to say trustfunders are pretty stupid people and that’s who is running things
Or, is the amount of oil Saudi Arabia is pumping, all that producers can currently get out, given recent investment and the state of depletion of wells?
The published “reserves” mean very little, I am afraid.
If Saudi wells are going dry or unable to produce we have a big big problem! I wonder if this is why they are talking about building a fake city…. We are strong and have tons of oil.
Probably. This is also why their supposedly “proved resources” are so high.
Yes proven by whom and to whom? I think this might be the problem that no one is looking at.
“If Saudi wells are going dry or unable to produce we have a big big problem!”
what do you mean “we”?
US produces 12.5 mbpd and imports 4 mbpd from Canada.
Sam, I do not like green eggs and ham, where’s the problem?
I think they have no idea what is real.
Hey minister of development what do you think of my idea to be a one mile by 150 mile city in the desert? [keep in mind if you disagree with me I will have your hands cut off].
Boss, boss it is a brilliant idea. You are a genius.
I’m reading about this in Yergin’s latest book. (great read btw)
He says the new prince wants to use high oil prices of the 2020’s to basically rebuild KSA into another Dubai. He said the 70’s high oil prices are what created the welfare state and hardcore religious rules. And he wants to take it in the opposite direction using the same methods (inflated revenues).
So, I doubt we’ll ever know what is really going on. The thing I haven’t heard mentioned that Yergin talks about, is when they cut production, they LOSE MARKET SHARE. That’s a big deal to these countries and why they don’t like cutting production. If they cut production, that means someone doesn’t get their order. Which means they have to source it from somewhere else. Which means they may not come back. (in a nutshell)
If I make a 100 widgets and sell them for 100 and then cut production and sell 50 widgets for 200 am I making a larger profit? I guess so…. ? The US and the rest of the world is heading for a deep deflationary cycle; so I’m the end there will be less money.
Lew Rockwell reports on some Schad
Springsteen Disease Linked to Covid Shots He Promoted
Writes Ginny Garner:
Lew,
There is apparently a link between the covid shots and the peptic ulcer disease that has caused Bruce Springsteen to cancel his September concert gigs.The performer required audience members attending his Broadway show in 2021 to be vaccinated.
From the NIH web site:
“COVID-19 vaccine recipients should be properly educated on the complete adverse event profile of the vaccines. We also recommend vaccine recipients with pre-existing GI tract diseases, including those with a history of GI bleeding, inflammatory bowel disease (IBD), or peptic ulcer disease should be warned of the potential GI tract-related adverse events and closely monitored.”
NIH article: “Gastrointestinal Complications of COVID-19 Vaccines.”
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9097558/
Schad in the USA
Schad in the USA now
Thanks, interesting.
Also some singers here:
”THE LIST OF SINGERS WHO HAVE CANCELED CONCERT DATES DUE TO HEALTH PROBLEMS GROWS LONGER”
https://www.dagospia.com/rubrica-2/media_e_tv/ldquo-dolori-addominali-insostenibili-rdquo-francesca-michielin-annulla-366476.htm
Previously in Italy, we had singers Fedez and Merlo who promoted mRNA therapy who experienced serious consequences.
Merlo died of a sudden leukemia, while Fedez had a surgery for a sudden and serious cancer.
For Fedez it was after the time of the ‘third dose for everyone’ while Merlo partecipated at the beginning to an experiment in order to find the correct version of the vaccine, as he explained himself at the time.
https://corrieredelveneto.corriere.it/notizie/vicenza/cronaca/23_settembre_05/morte-di-michele-merlo-i-pm-chiedono-di-archiviare-l-inchiesta-era-troppo-tardi-per-poterlo-salvare-d6a1bee5-35e3-4002-be6b-6d43db5c6xlk.shtml
https://www.corriere.it/salute/sportello_cancro/22_marzo_25/fedez-chirurgo-operato-tumore-pancreas-b34c2276-ac0e-11ec-b7d6-769a9aeeea07.shtml
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“Michele Merlo, who passed away this morning, Monday, June 7, 2021, from a cerebral hemorrhage triggered by fulminant leukemia, had said on social media a few days ago that he had vaccinated against Covid as a volunteer”
https://www.ilgiornaleditalia.it/video/spettacolo/259498/michele-merlo-vaccinato-come-volontario-il-video-in-cui-scherzava-sugli-effetti-collaterali.html
“Fedez has just received the third dose”
https://www.donnemagazine.it/chiara-ferragni-e-fedez-hanno-fatto-la-terza-dose/
They are injecting VAIDS
Tim,
Don’t know, a guess. Many of the people mentioned push very hard, my personal metaphor once was, “If I hit the baseball and the stiches don’t come off, I am not trying hard enough,” along with, “One can sleep when one is dead.”
At any of these levels require incredible energy, all entertainers must transfer that energy to their audiences; there isn’t much left for the transferer. Working like this, one becomes a bit crazy; if not going beyond your mental limits, try harder and find those limits.
Something doesn’t work with the jab, I suspect there are issues with too many jabs of different kinds as well, a few are beneficial, many cause problems; our bodies are designed for life and they work pretty well.
I passed on the jab, told an acquaintance I would run the null experiment, so far so good. I have friends who took the jab, so far so good for them, it depends I guess.
Dennis L.
I agree with you on this, Dennis. Getting up on stage and performing is not for the faint-hearted or the less-than-fully fit. And most people at 70 or more fall outside of the fully fit category.
Pointing out the people who pushed the COVID shots and subsequently got sick can be viewed as in bad taste as it is, to some extent, mocking the afflicted. But it also serves as much-needed pushback against the pro-jab narrative that, I am certain, has killed a lot of people and damaged the lives of many more. And with a renewed push for yet another booster and even for regular annual boosters for all in the works, I believe such pushback is desirable, essential, and inevitable.
Certainty is justified, Tim.
I am currently walking in the mountains of North Wales, before retiring each night to the utterly luxurious comfort of a house kindly lent by a friend.
Now, I talk with about 1 person or couple per day during my wanderings in the region of stones, sheep, wild goats and pungent rural aromas , (apart from my delightful local neighbours who are the very soul of alcoholic Celtic hospitality).
Yesterday, a cheery couple from Shropshire who plied my desperate-looking and foot-sore self with coffee and water, and with whom I ventured to broach the vaxx question told me that a friend had been severely injured by shot 2 of the AZ poison, bed-bound for 6 months (!) and now feels ‘deep inside’ that their days are numbered.
If such severe side-effects are truly ‘very rare’ what are the odds of that?!
If everyone opened up on the subject we would soon see just how widespread the damage is, I’m sure, even without the assiduous researches of Prof Fenton (caught up on him yet, Norman?)
the thought of you passing 200 yards from my house is quite enough catching up for one day xabier
Without a doubt the vax injured numbers are far higher than acknowledged…
Many more millions suffer silently … not wanting to the betray the cause.
Serves them right — suffer you little bitches.
My mate is not silent:
Towards the end of this season, McIntosh has been nursing a minor dislocation to a shoulder, a tweaked rotator cuff and an AC joint which has given him some gyp, while also managing pericarditis.
McIntosh says he developed the condition, confirmed by a cardiologist, after a Covid vaccine in December, 2021.
‘‘I didn’t leave the house for probably five months.
‘‘I couldn’t walk down my driveway, couldn’t play hockey, couldn’t go for hikes … it was definitely a dark, dark road for a long time.’’
While he spent the off-season trying to get back to full strength, he’s not quite there yet.
‘‘I’ve had to manage it throughout the year.
‘‘I would always decide if I was going to do the [weekly] Tuesday practices or not … it was more of a load management season for me.
‘‘I’m hoping now hockey’s done, I can try to get back into the gym — it was either work and gym or work and hockey, obviously, hockey’s my life, so I chose that.’’
https://www.scene.co.nz/sport-scene/ice-hockey/puck-yeah/
Prof. Norman Fenton reported that his wife, still in her sixties, is experiencing dementia which has progressed rapidly since she got injected, very much against his advice. “So now it’s personal,” according to NF.
He has a Rumble channel, by the way.
https://rumble.com/user/normanfenton
US banks are sitting on $ 558 billion of unrealized losses .
https://wolfstreet.com/2023/09/08/unrealized-losses-on-securities-held-by-banks-oh-dearie-the-whole-schmear-8-to-558-billion/
Charts look frightening!
https://wolfstreet.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/US-banks-unrealized-losses-FDIC-2023-09-08.png
https://wolfstreet.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/US-banks-credit-securities-2023-09-08.png
That’s it??? I thought that number would be higher!!
Ravi,
We have blown up more that in Ukraine, all will be well with the universe.
Dennis L.
Ultimately, people who think that they have money available from banks (or from selling shares of stock, bonds, or ETFs) are going to be disappointed. Either the money won’t be there, or inflation will have taken away much/most of its value. Pensions won’t be much/any better.
We can’t count on our current financial system, in its current form, lasting indefinitely. If there are fewer goods and services to distribute, some people will have to get less, or none at all.
QUESTION:
Someone in the past suggested to use this site: https://12ft.io
to remove paywall of an article.
but ‘they’ are becoming smarter, because it almost doesn’t work anymore.
Someone else suggested archive.is which was very good, but also that is not working anymore.
Considering that every newspaper has the right to block its articles, I wonder if maybe there is a way to see, in some cases, an article with paywall.
In my view, it is better to see a lot of advertising and then read the article, because being blocked it is not nice.
Sometimes the article contains news which are useful for many people.
As often is said in my area, I’m not asking for myself, I’m asking for a friend…
The internet is evolving fast. Almost no VPN works from Russia anymore. In fact none, except for unconventional tricks.
Why does one use a VPN in Russia – because Russia blocks access or because other regions block access to Russians?
So that certain public entities in the USA can not see where you are connecting from. For example coinbase. More frivolously, to see Twitter and other sites.
I can no longer access yandex from US.
It redirects me to: https://dzen.ru/?yredirect=true
It’s better for looking up free ppv livestreams. Google downranks those sites.
Can you access yandex if you use Tor?
These days I rely on telepathy with the Unseen Masters. You should try it.
The Wise Ones, by the way, say we are doomed.
As in DOOMED.
But there is no need to end up as a Norman, so there is still some hope…….
Let’s all look forward to our next re-incarnation, shall we?
still clamping the words of others xabier?
do try harder
the bookworms are winning
Weird. Every bit of perception and interpretation I can come up with points to doom. But such things are probably settled at higher levels?
The JPY maybe approaching an historic depreciation level, critical for maintaining the core of the infamous carrytrade, banker JPY credit growth.
“Japan warns of excessive currency moves; says all options on table
“Japan is ready to respond “appropriately” to excessive volatility in the currency market, with all options on the table, Finance Minister Shunichi Suzuki said, following the yen’s recent depreciation …
“The yen has already slipped past the levels at which Japan previously intervened to stem its precipitous fall last year. Suzuki has said the government is paying attention to volatility, dismissing the view that it has specific levels in mind when it comes to intervention.”
japantoday.com/category/business/update1-japan-warns-of-excessive-currency-moves-says-all-options-on-table
Japan is at a critical juncture with the yen at its weakest this century. Will the ministry or the BoJ intervene if it weakens smoothly? If rates are raised to defend the currency (the BoJ base rate is at -0.1%) the carrytrade will implode and the yen could encounter a deleveraging surge demand to end all currency deleveraging trading activity, volatility, no? It’s not like there’s not much USD liquidity that could be used to support the yen
The horns of Powell’s dilemma – the banks vs CPE index vulnerable serfs
I hadn’t thought of this.
Japan’s government has had an incredibly high debt level for many years. If interest rates were very low/negative, this high debt level was somewhat manageable. This high debt level allowed the government to create a lot of (not very worthwhile) jobs, so that every citizen who wanted to work could work.
The carry trade would seem to be closely related to all of the derivatives sold to “manage” interest rate risk. All of these things seem ready to implode at some point.
this is the chart that frightens the bejeebahs out of me, which I’ve posted before
kshitij.com/images/graph-gallery/bond/jpysin00_files/Yen%20Yields_5627_image002.png
the embeded losses in these long dated JGB and the derivative contracts based on their pricing must surely have bankrupted financial institutions all over were it not for being held on the books at cost
“… fantasies of justice, vengeance and a purified world.”
sweet schad? definitely
HHH over at POB has a point of view on the Yen trade
.” To get a better judgment on just how bad the real economy is in places like China. Or really the entire global economy but in particular China. I look to the Japanese yen.
Everybody has at least heard of the the Japanese carry trade. Though most people don’t understand it’s not just 6-7 trillion dollars in Japanese savings we are talking about. It also a massive amount of Japanese bills that large banks have used as collateral to borrow dollars to lend into China and elsewhere.
When the carry trade unwinds. The Yen will appreciate massively. Any uptick in Japanese bill yields will trigger this. If yields start to fall faster in say the US than they do in Japan would also trigger this as everyone will want to lock-in any gains before they evaporate.
Well the dollar liquidity flowing into China has dried up. Which is why understandably China wants to not have to use dollars to buy oil.
But when those Japanese savings start coming home look out. It’s going to be deflationary to the rest of the world. Just watch the Yen. It’s not that it’s a safe haven currency. It’s a low yielding funding currency in a world where everyone else has jacked interest rates up at record pace.
Yen strengthening in the current environment means further deterioration of the global economy and ultimately oil demand.
I should point out the Yen hasn’t yet strengthened a bit against anything yet. But it’s also way over sold against everything setting up the scenario where yen start coming home and deflating the economy.
Supply and demand dynamic versus global macro backdrop. One says higher prices the other says I don’t think so.
thx Ravi. Someone else who can see what I imagine too!
Pray tell, who or whatever the nest of satans is HHH over at POB???
It seems like evolution of cars regardless of energy availability is headed what we could be called death.
From a Laughing Snake on ZH
“ICE cars are getting prettier but they are shrinking the engines substantially. The smaller engines will wear out faster doing the same amount of work. Soon, the engines will be so small and the cars will go so slow that aerodynamics will not be a concern.”
If this is true…
It looks like cars will become uneconomic to produce for large numbers of people own because speed matters a lot for transportation.
The car I purchased recently was a used 2021 model, rather than a 2023 model. At least part of the reason I did this was because the 2023 engine was much smaller, to permit better “fuel economy”.
A smaller engine is cheaper according to the articles I read.
This reminds me of the moves the industry made to met fuel efficiency standards in the 1970s–they made cars out of lighter and cheaper material that would crumple in a car accident.
But there’s a worrying correlation between these results and the trend for smaller, more fuel-efficient engines of the last few years. People tried to get into larger less fuel efficient cars because they held up better in accidents, or at least that was the perception.
As for smaller, engines, there’s more. This is another important topic that almost no pundit in the media discusses.
“According to J.D. Power’s results, there have been ten more reported problems per 100 vehicles for smaller four-cylinder engines than in the previous year’s survey–notably more than for older five and six-cylinder engines.”
Bring back the Yugo!
Was about 4,000 dollars in 1985…$10,000 plus in 2022 dollars and remember seeing them sold at a flea market new for $100 down.
The engine was like for a riding lawnmower..
Write these years .
Peak oil conventional 2006 (World)
Peak oil C+C 2018 (World)
Peak oil USA 2019
Peak cars 2017 ( Werhner Berndt forecast this in 2020 ) .
We are at ” Peak everything ” . Peak oil is Peak everything .
https://www.acea.auto/figure/world-passenger-car-production/
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