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It will be an interesting year.
We know that the age of peak performance for humans varies, depending upon the activity. Peak performance for an athlete tends to come between ages 20 and 30, while peak performance for a person writing academic papers seems to come between ages 40 and 50 years. By the time people are 80 years old, they have a strong suspicion that health and other aspects of performance will deteriorate in the next 20 years.
Economies, in physics terms, are similar to human beings. Both are dissipative structures. They require energy of the appropriate kinds to keep their systems growing and operating normally. For humans, the main source of this energy is food. For an economy, it is a mixture of energy that the economy is specifically adapted to. Today’s economy requires a certain mixture of energy directly from the sun, plus energy from fossil fuels, burned biomass, and nuclear energy. Electricity is a carrier of energy from different sources. It needs to be available at the right time of day and the right time of year to allow today’s economy to continue.
Most people don’t realize that economies grow and eventually collapse. For example, we know that the Roman Empire started its growth in 625 BCE and reached its peak extent in 211 CE. It declined somewhat between 211 CE and 456 CE, when it finally collapsed after several invasions. The growth and collapse of economies is very much expected because of their nature as dissipative structures.
In 2024, the world economy is acting more and more like an 80-year-old man than like a young vigorous economy. Perhaps the economy can continue for quite a few more years, but it increasingly looks like it is in danger of falling apart, or of succumbing as a result of what might be regarded as minor problems.
Trying to predict precisely what will happen in the year 2024 is difficult, but in this post, I will examine some of the things that are going wrong in this increasingly creaky old economy.
[1] Too many parts of the world economy are changing from growth to shrinkage.
The blue circles can illustrate many different things:
- The total goods and services produced by the economy;
- The quantity of energy required to produce the total goods and service produced by the economy;
- The total population that is supported by these goods and services (which will generally be rising or falling, too);
- Goods and services per person (which tend to rise during periods of growth and fall in a shrinking economy);
- And, strangely enough, the ability of the economy to maintain complexity. Without enough energy, structures such as governments tend to fail.
As the economy moves away from growth, toward shrinkage, major changes can be expected.
[2] In a growing economy, repaying debt with interest is very easy. In a shrinking economy, repaying debt with interest becomes close to impossible.
If an economy is growing, there will likely be an increasing number of jobs available over time, and they will pay relatively more. If a person loses his/her job, it is not very difficult to get a position that will pay as much or more. Paying back a loan on a house or an automobile tends to be easy.
A corresponding situation occurs for businesses. If the business can count on an increasing number of customers, overhead becomes easier and easier to cover with a growing consumer base.
The reverse is obviously true in a shrinking economy. Jobs may be available if a person loses his/her current job, but the jobs don’t pay very well. Businesses may face periods with suddenly lower demand, as in 2020. There is a sudden need to reduce overhead, such as payments for office space, if the space is no longer being utilized by employees.
Clearly, if interest rates rise, it becomes increasingly difficult for borrowers of all kinds to repay debt with interest. Raising interest rates is thus a way to intentionally slow the economy. If the economy is growing too quickly (like a 20-year-old sprinter), then such a change makes sense. But if the economy is behaving like an 80-year-old, hobbling along on a walking stick, it becomes likely the economy will figuratively fall and become severely injured. This is the danger of raising interest rates when the world economy is having difficulty growing at an adequate rate.
[3] The physics of the system dictates that as the system shifts in the direction of shrinkage, the wealth of the system is increasingly distributed toward the rich and very powerful, and away from those of modest means.
Physicist Francois Roddier writes about this issue in his book, The Thermodynamics of Evolution. He likens energy (and the goods and services produced using this energy) as being like energy applied to water. When energy levels are low, the less wealthy members of the economy tend to be squeezed out, just as (low energy) frozen water turns to ice. The reduced amount of energy available (and goods and services produced using this energy) increasingly bubbles up to the small number of economic participants at the top of the economic hierarchy. This issue tends to make the already rich even richer.
In some sense, the self-organizing economy seems to preserve as much of the economy as it can, when energy supplies are inadequate. The wealthy seem to be important for keeping the whole system operating, so the physics tends to favor them.
Inflation, in general, is a problem, especially for people with limited income. Higher interest rates also take a big “bite” out of spendable income. This problem is greatest for low income people. The benefit of higher interest rates, and of capital gains, tends to go to high income people.
High food prices especially affect the poor because, even in good times, food tends to be a high share of their income. For example, in a poor country, if food costs amount to 50% of a person’s income when food prices are moderate, a 20% increase in food prices will lead to food prices costing 60% of income. Such a situation quickly becomes intolerable because there is not enough income left for other essential goods.
The figure above shows that between 1990 and 2022, the share of total wealth held by the top 1% of US citizens rose from 23% to 32%. This means that other citizens were increasingly squeezed out of the benefits of the growing economy.
[4] With their newfound power (arising from the growing concentration of wealth), the wealthy are tempted to exert increasing control over the economic system.
The fact that the world economy was likely to reach annual limits of fossil fuel extraction about now has been known for a very long time. I have referred to a 1957 speech by US Navy Admiral Hyman Rickover pointing out this bottleneck many times. Wealthy individuals have known about this bottleneck for a very long time. They have been asking themselves, “How can we increasingly benefit from this change?”
Clearly, reducing the population growth rate has been one of the goals of some of these wealthy individuals. With fewer people to share the resources available, everyone will benefit.
But the wealthy can also see that hiding the energy bottleneck would be of huge benefit in keeping the current system operating as usual. These individuals, through the World Economic Forum and other organizations, have pushed for zero global warming emissions. They have tried to reframe the problem of inadequate inexpensive-to-produce fossil fuels as a problem of too large a quantity of fossil fuels for the system to handle. In their view, we can decide to transition away from fossil fuels without significantly adverse impacts.
By hiding the energy bottleneck, companies selling vehicles can claim they will be useful for many years. Educational systems can claim that we are well on our way to finding substitutes for fossil fuels, and that there will be good jobs available in the new systems. With the bottleneck problem hidden, politicians do not have to present citizens with a very concerning and intractable issue. Since a happily-ever-after narrative is desired by all, it is easy for the wealthy (and politicians who want to be reelected) to influence the major news outlets to present only this view to readers.
[5] Major cracks in the economy are likely to start showing soon. The energy bottleneck is already pulling the economy down, even if major news media are reluctant to discuss the problem.
The problem displays itself in several different ways:
(a) The economy has moved toward two widely differing views regarding today’s energy situation.
The narrative presented in the press is that we have an excessive amount of fossil fuels. In this view, any shortage of fossil fuels (or any other resource) would be quickly accompanied by rising prices. These rising prices would allow an increasing quantity of these materials to be extracted, quickly solving the problem. But the real story, for anyone who examines the details, is quite different. Affordability becomes very important, holding prices down. History shows that nearly every civilization has collapsed. Populations tend to grow but the resources supporting the economies don’t grow quickly enough. Rising prices don’t fix the problem!
People who work with fossil fuels know how essential they are for our current civilization. The story about intermittent wind and solar substituting for fossil fuels sounds very far-fetched if a person thinks about the need for heat in the winter and the difficulties associated with long-term storage of electricity. The two widely differing narratives surrounding our energy future sound like they could have come from the dystopian novel Nineteen Eighty-Four by George Orwell.
(b) Repaying debt with interest gets to be an increasing problem.
Strange as it may seem, added debt can temporarily act as a placeholder for additional energy. Debt is a promise for goods and services that will be made with future energy. This placeholder can allow capital goods, such as factories, to be made which allow more goods and services to be made in the future. This placeholder can also be used as the basis for money to pay workers, so that they can afford to purchase more goods.
At some point, the debt becomes too much for the system to sustain. We are seeing some of this in China, where there have been debt defaults in the real estate market. In the US, the commercial real estate market is experiencing high vacancy rates. There is increasing concern that, in many places, commercial real estate can only be sold at a huge loss. In this situation, the holders of debt are likely to sustain massive losses.
(c) Political parties start differing widely on whether to increase government debt.
The more conservative parties do not want to keep adding more debt, but the more liberal parties insist that there is no other way out: If there isn’t enough energy of the right kind, the added debt can perhaps be used to fund projects in the renewable energy sector that will create the illusion of progress toward an adequate supply of energy of the right kind at the right price. The added debt can also be used to continue the many social programs promised to citizens and to provide support for activities such as the war in Ukraine.
So far, adding debt has worked for the US because the US dollar is the world’s reserve currency and because the US has tended to keep its target interest rates high, encouraging other countries to invest in US securities. If other countries try to add substantially more debt, their currencies will tend to fall, leading to inflation.
The US may soon also run into an inflation problem because of added debt. This happens because it is possible to “print money,” but it is not possible to print goods and services made with inexpensive energy products. For example, the temptation is to bail out failing banks and pension plans with added debt. To the extent that this debt gets back into the money supply, but there aren’t added goods to match, the result is likely to be inflation in the prices of the goods and services that are available.
(d) Broken supply lines are another sign of an economy reaching limits.
When there aren’t quite enough goods and services to go around, some would-be buyers of goods have to be left out.
In the last three years, all of us have experienced at least some problems with empty shelves in stores and the unavailability of needed parts for repairs. Many kinds of drugs are in short supply around the world. Heavy industry has been encountering problems, as well. In 2022, Upstream Online wrote, “Drill pipe shortages causing headaches for US producers [of oil and natural gas].”
If we are reaching the limit of inexpensive fossil fuel available for extraction, an increasing number of these problems can be expected. These supply line problems tend to raise costs in a different way than “regular” inflation. Often, a more expensive product must be substituted, or a higher cost workaround is needed. For example, a person may need to use a rental vehicle while his current vehicle is being repaired because of unavailable replacement parts.
(e) Conflicts arise when there are not enough goods and services to go around.
Part of the conflict comes from wage and wealth disparity. For example, an increasing number of people are finding reasonably-priced housing impossible to find. The combination of high interest rates and high housing prices tends to make home-buying a luxury, available only to the rich. An increasing share of young people are also finding automobiles too expensive to afford. One way “not-enough-goods-and-services-to-go-around” manifests itself is by many people not being able to afford the products in question.
There is often a belief that a more equitable distribution of income would solve the problem. But, if the economy cannot build more cars or homes because of energy shortages, this doesn’t fix the problem. Providing more money to the poor would instead cause inflation in the price of the goods that are available.
Another way this conflict manifests itself is in conflicts among countries. Countries selling fossil fuels, such as Russia, would like higher fossil fuel prices, so that the standards of living of their own people can be higher. However, if fossil-fuel-importing countries, such as those in Europe, are forced to pay higher prices for the fossil fuel they use, it becomes difficult for companies in these countries to manufacture goods profitably. Also, the higher fossil fuel prices make the cost of growing food higher. Customers often cannot afford higher food prices.
In the case of the fight between Israel and Gaza, at least part of the conflict relates to the natural gas field that Israel is developing, but which arguably belongs to Gaza. If Israel can develop this resource, it may be able to keep its own economy expanding for a while longer. The people of Gaza will remain very poor.
(f) Manufacturing around the world seems to be reducing in quantity. It definitely is not rising to keep up with population growth.
The big shortfall today is in goods, rather than in services. This is what a person would expect if an energy problem is giving rise to the problems we are currently experiencing.
The organization S&P Global Market Intelligence puts out an index called the Purchasing Managers Index, for 15 countries, including a global average. The manufacturing portion of this index is in contraction on a worldwide basis, as of the latest data available. The extent of this manufacturing contraction is especially significant for the US, the European countries included, for Japan, and for Australia. The countries that are not in contraction are India, Russia, and China.
If manufacturing is in contraction, we would expect more broken supply lines in the months and years ahead.
[6] How will all this turn out, in 2024 and long term?
I don’t think we know. Things are likely to get worse economically, but we don’t know how much worse. We know that an elderly person can easily succumb to some illness. In the same way, we know that if the economy has enough weak points, a major collapse might occur, even without a huge decline in energy availability.
At the same time, the economy seems to have a lot of resilience. Leaders of the US, and perhaps of other countries, as well, seem likely to take the route of adding increasing amounts of debt, to bail themselves out of whatever problems arise. If banks get into trouble, some new funding facility will be developed. If Social Security or private pensions need more funding, it will likely be provided by more government debt. This leads me to suspect that in the US, at least, there is likely to be a higher risk of hyperinflation (lots of money but very little to buy) rather than deflation (very little money, but also very little to buy).
The Universe came into being, apparently out of nothing. The Universe has grown and continues to grow. Eric Chaisson, in his 2001 book, Cosmic Evolution: The Rise of Complexity in Nature, shows that the trend in the Universe has been toward ever greater complexity.
Together, it appears that the Universe, itself, acts like a dissipative structure. Self-organization leads the Universe to grow and become more complex, as long as it has adequate energy. The question becomes, “Where is the expanding energy supply for the Universe as a whole coming from? Can the expanding energy supply continue indefinitely, or until whatever force started it, chooses to stop it?”
It seems to me that there is something from outside pushing the whole Universe along. Economists talk about “an invisible hand.” People from a religious background might say that there is a God who created the Universe, and is continuing to create it every day, through involvement in the things that take place on Earth, including the strange happenings in 2020.
If I am correct that there is an outside force influencing the economy today, perhaps Earth’s problems are temporary. One possibility is that eventually a new type of energy solution will be found. There is also the possibility that, at some point, whatever force started the Universe may cause the operation of the Universe to cease. A replacement (which we can think of as heaven) might be provided instead.
The popular narrative tends to see ourselves as having a great deal of power to manage problems with our current economy, but I don’t think that we have very much power to influence the system we find ourselves embedded in. The economic system behaves on its own, based on market forces, just a child grows up, matures, and eventually dies. The system within which we live is very much guided by what we call self-organization, which is outside our power to control.
parts 4 and 5 of the elders plan
4. Reduce working time
I’ve written about this here before, but the summary in the article is about
lowering the retirement age, encouraging part-time working or adopting a four-day working week. These measures would lower carbon emissions and free people to engage in care and other welfare-improving activities.
Although the trials of shorter working weeks have been positive, there are some areas we need to understand better. For example, the researchers suggest we need to understand the barriers to introducing shorter working weeks. (In the UK this includes bone-headed Conservative ministers trying to score political points in an over-centralised state).
We also need to understand the relationship between working hours and emissions better:
Although less commuting lowers energy use and carbon emissions during compressed work weeks, behaviours during three-day weekends remain underexplored. More travel or shopping during free time could increase emissions.
5. Enable sustainable development
This has both an international and a national/local aspect to it:
(C)ancelling unfair and unpayable debts of low- and middle-income countries, curbing unequal exchange in international trade and creating conditions for productive capacity to be reoriented towards achieving social objectives.
There’s a whole area of analysis around the idea of “systems of provision”—I may come back to this in Just Two Things another time—which looks at the whole system around the way a public or social objective, or an economic outcome, is delivered, linking both socio-technical systems perspectives and systems of political economy. The researchers mention housing in the Nature paper:
In many parts of the world, property markets cater to developers, landlords and financiers. This contributes to segregation and inequality, and can push working people out of city centres so they are dependent on cars, which increases fossil-fuel emissions. Alternative approaches include public or cooperative housing, and a financial system that prioritizes housing as a basic need.
The politics of this
As I said at the start, one of the problems of “degrowth” is that it includes the word “growth” in it. It’s unhelpful: this is really a discussion about quality of life and productivity—ways to be able to live well while doing less, including working less. It’s not as if the current model is working well at the moment, but as soon as you mention the word “growth” it evokes uncritically all of the dominant ideas of modernity.
And people who have uncritical views of what “growth” involves haven’t really thought through the impact on our economies of climate change, resources depletion, poor soil quality, biodiversity loss, etc. In the Limits to Growth model review in 2005, the base case, which has been tracking actual outcomes too well for too long to be a coincidence, leads to industrial decline in the 2020s and population decline in the 2030s. (And no: the systems research says that technology can’t fix this in the time we have.)
So at one level, the choice we have is whether we manage growth down gently, and improve wellbeing outcomes at the same time, or just have it come crashing down around us. The people who responded to Jason Hickel’s tweets by asking him if he agreed that growth led to technology development were looking through the wrong end of the telescope.
The good news is that there’s some evidence that public attitudes are changing: they may be ahead of politicians:
Polls in Europe show that the majority of people prioritize well-being and ecological objectives over growth (see go.nature.com/3ugg8kt). Polls in the United States and the United Kingdom show support for job guarantees and working-time reductions (see go.nature.com/3uyhdjv and go.nature.com/3y8ujz5).
One of the articles that Hickel linked to suggested that climate policy researchers in the global North are increasingly aligned around degrowth or what’s known as ‘a-growth’—agnostic about growth, except in terms of its broader social and environmental effects—rather than green growth.
Teemu Kosimaki (2023)
For some reason, this whole discussion reminds me of the famous cartoon about dealing with climate change. Because: All of these five principles are a more equitable, more inclusive, and more effective way of organising the way we live and work.
Teaser photo credit: Rally for a Just Transition in Canada. Photo: Barry Hetschko/flickr. CC BY-NC-SA 2.0
Andrew Curry
How to encourage gentle degrowth and improve wellbeing outcomes?
The idea that “came to me” in the 90’s was to create a nonprofit food security, skills training, coop/co-housing and mutual aid society. Floating the concept from time to time, commenters have offered “no need to Monetize or Meter the free flow of ideas, creativity, labor and materials.”
Ok great.. points taken!
The nonprofit manages a network of land trusts, coops, volunteer projects, food plots and community “pay as you can” kitchens w/ resource centers and WWOF style co-housing communities and farms including legal campgrounds for people who lose everything do to non-compliance.
Membership is based on a yearly $$ fee or “Hours” of work performed. Members learn new skills to re-enter the paid economy and produce local goods “on their own dime” for sale in the coop and kitchen.
A new form of “green stamp” would be issued to encourage purchases from in-network businesses and holistic practitioners and swapped at the nonprofit store for real goods. The project is intended to increase resiliency and preparedness for “gentle degrowth” as well as provide resistance to top down “cattle drives” like the UN/WHO global governance model.. A cross between Habitat for Humanity, Salvation Army Inpatient Rehab, Americorps and Ten Thousand Villages.
The face off between Texas and the Federal Government is getting intense. Will it come to shooting? If it does will it wind down or escalate up. If up how far?
Funny https://t.me/leaklive/17817
Tragic? Nah… hilarious… F789 em. Operation Warp Speed hahaha Duh… suckers were played
THIS IS TRAGIC: 158,000 more Americans died in the first nine months of 2023 compared to the same period in 2019, surpassing all American fatalities in every war since Vietnam.
Alarmingly, these excess deaths are affecting YOUNG people, not the old.
Dr. Pierre Kory wrote in an op-ed published on The Hill:
“For people 65 and over, deaths in the second quarter of 2023 were 6 percent below the pre-pandemic norm, according to a new report from the Society of Actuaries.
“Mortality was 26 percent higher among insured 35-to-44-year-olds, and 19 percent higher for 25-to-34-year-olds, continuing a death spike that peaked in the third quarter of 2021 at a staggering 101 percent and 79 percent above normal, respectively.”
What happened in the third quarter of 2021?
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I thought that the video called “Elon Musk drops vaccine bombshell personal story” was good. vhttps://www.theepochtimes.com/epochtv/elon-musk-drops-vaccine-bombshell-personal-story-facts-matter-5500563?utm_source=partner&utm_campaign=vigilantf&src_src=partner&src_cmp=vigilantf
It is more about the EU’s censoring of any true information that does not align with the selected narrative of the day.
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DENVER — A few medical employees at Denver Health made history Monday as some of the first people to receive the live Ebola vaccine for preventative measures, the hospital said. “Even though there are no current outbreaks in the world, we want to make sure that people have the chance to be protected in case we need to take care of a patient that has a disease with a mortality potentially of 70%,” Dr. Maria Frank, a recipient of the vaccine, said.
https://live2fightanotherday.substack.com/p/ebola-on-both-of-your-houses
If this is real then re tard ed just sunk to a record level
This article makes a person wonder how soon our wonder-workers will succeed in getting Ebola virus to spread through the world population.
Polio was for a while a Rotary project. There was no malice on the local level, it seemed like a good idea, rid the world of polio. There were issues in Africa as I recall, some vaccinees got the disease with less than ideal outcomes.
It was a bandwagon to get behind, there are far fewer “good” projects than one might think, so if nothing else try harder than the fellow next to you and then say, “Ah shucks, it was nothing.” No sarcasm.
It is harder to find good science now days, so much as been done and perhaps the fabric of the universe unfolds in billions of years and we have to wait a bit.
Recently oncology researchers associated with Harvard were found to have faked the data, AI found them out. Bummer.
Dennis L.
Another leaking vaccine.
That could be the famous disease X they were looking for.
(Ansa)
Big protests also in Italy by farmers, against Europe’s agricultural policies: diesel taxation, cultivated meat, insect flours, taxes, land sell-offs (for solar panels and other).
https://www.ansa.it/sito/notizie/cronaca/2024/01/23/la-marcia-dei-trattori-agricoltori-autonomi-in-protesta-_eafe94af-b5bb-4682-90bb-4e0655132080.html
I can understand why! These things don’t sound helpful for farmers.
Only see around the edges, but a farmer with farmers.
Farming is a family business around me; I see older farmers(say 80) moving off the farm, into the neighborhood and making room for the next generation of farmers.
I also see some farmers go green, they are too interested in being JD and not enough the land. Climbing into the cab and knowing this one is yours is a different feeling. I am JD and JD has done well; the cabs close with a quiet sound, one sits in the seat, turns the key and the machine comes to life.
I was not a farmer, I own land, it is different. It does not make much money, it is dirt, but cared for, it retains value and there is something in a well tended field. Europeans seem better than US, but there are exceptions. In a few months, the land will comeso life after a winter sleep, life begins anew.
Hard for a non land owner to understand, it is a feeling, driving on to the land from the city it says, “I am yours to care for, be a good steward.” It is unlike anything I have ever done. It is a feeling, took me a few years to get it. Enough of the romance, now bring working capital.
Dennis L.
Farmers that worship JD are just another of form corporate whore….without Monsanto and Cargill they would go bankrupt instantly. They have destroyed all that they touch and they are truly not farmers….they are miners…….They are despoilers of the simulacrum wrapped in a BS cloak of “keepers of the land”
They “keep” nothing except the corporate bottom line and leave wastelands behind them.
I have zero respect for every single field crop farmer that I know….they are small minded and have no grasp at all on the monumental level of their sin.
Ranchers are a completely different breed. Even in the modern day the cow calf base of the “industry” is operating under a close to natural model.
Commercial Trappers are nearly perfect,….but of course modern humanity despises them. Which shows of course that they are blessed.
How the climate scam works 👌🏽
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11653723/How-Al-Gore-300m-climate-alarmism-Former-VP-fortune-losing-George-W.html
The headline is:
How Al Gore has made $330m with climate alarmism: Former VP made a fortune after losing to George W when he set up a green investment firm now worth $36BN that pays him $2m a month… as he warns about ‘rain bombs’ and ‘boiling oceans’
The article details the many ways he has made money, including helping found the company, “Generation Investment Management, where he makes a salary of $2 million per month. Gore seems to say that his role in the company is a purely a figurehead role. The article says
Maybe they’ll come up with a way to run a power grid on such as wind/solar, or to make fuel from sunlight — has it happened anywhere, yet?
It is possible to make ammonia as a way of storing wind power. I believe that methanol can also be made in a similar way.
And people are looking at hydrogen as an energy carrier, but it requires very cold temperatures to be a liquid.
These approaches tend to be expensive, and the energy produced is still not diesel.
With a lot of energy loss, it is also possible to make short hydrocarbon chains into longer ones, using the Fischer-Tropsch process.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fischer–Tropsch_process
This is rather odd… he says we are burning up… and his solution involves renewable energy …
Everyone on OFW knows that is a dead end….
Surely that should give anyone who believes in GW pause for thought…
Maybe… just maybe… it’s all fake?
Nah… it’s real. Just like we can charge batteries in -60C on Mars but all those Teslas were stranded unable to charge at -13.
hahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahaha
I just proved that you cannot fix stooopidity… it is a permanent condition in MOREONS
https://twitter.com/WesleyHuntTX/status/1615786531322724352
Al Gore admitting at WEF that the inflation reduction act is primarily a ‘Climate Act’
369 Billion American pesos’
Yep, its all been an act.
I’d like to see this go to 0… https://www.zerohedge.com/crypto/bitcoin-breaks-below-39k-amid-ftx-mtgox-liquidation-chatter
This would be a really good way to distract the MOREONS from the truth (that the global economy is about to collapse and they are being exterminated) for a couple of weeks… at least.
This seems to be a related article:
https://www.coindesk.com/business/2024/01/22/ftx-sold-about-1b-of-grayscales-bitcoin-etf-explaining-much-of-outflow-sources/
FTX Sold About $1B of Grayscale’s Bitcoin ETF, Explaining Much of Outflow: Sources
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Thus, the new ETF for bitcoin so far has led to a falling, rather than rising, price for bitcoin. Maybe Fast Eddy can explain more.
Bitcoin exists cuz the PR Team wants it to exist .. a distraction .. a way to ensure there is the potential for upward mobility to prevent dissatisfaction with the lack of opportunities…
The PR Team controls the ups and downs … there is no rationale involved with these movements… it’s all fake
Like the helicopter on Mars etc
More derivatives. We get derivative of derivatives. If it is somehow possible to pump more debt into the world, maybe the financial system can stay together a bit longer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqD5RF2Kwjs
The first of these is a 3-hour audio recording that sounds promising from the little part I listened to at the beginning. Lindsay likens the DEI push now as being similar to the brain washing used in China in 1957.
Woke, Mao, and the American Cultural Revolution
62,637 views Premiered Feb 20, 2023 The New Discourses Podcast with James Lindsay
The New Discourses Podcast with James Lindsay, Episode 110
It’s time to be plain. Actually, it’s long past time. What’s happening in America today and throughout the West is a Maoist cultural revolution, just like happened in China under the CCP from 1966 to 1976. This is plain to see for those who know what to look for, from the struggle sessions, to the ideological totalism, to the separation of families, to the brainwashing in schools, to the destruction of statues, curriculum, and culture. If we are to have any hope of stopping this Maoist Cultural Revolution with American Characteristics, we have to begin by being honest about it. In this episode of the New Discourses Podcast, host James Lindsay walks the listener through a speech given by Mao Zedong (https://www.marxists.org/reference/ar…) in February 1957 to make very clear and palpable that what’s happening here, now, is what was happening there, then. Mao gave this speech on the eve of the Great Leap Forward (into catastrophe), just as we’re living through our present tumult on the eve of the Great Reset. Join James for this must-listen podcast so you can understand clearly where we are and thus what we might do about it.
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The second link is an 1 hour and 45 minute podcast, also by James Lindsey. The material says:
Exposing the Sustainable Development Goals
57,288 views Premiered Jul 17, 2023 The New Discourses Podcast with James Lindsay
The New Discourses Podcast with James Lindsay, Episode 122
We are halfway through a plot to seize control of the world. It may seem like a conspiracy theory, but it’s placed awfully prominently, and everywhere, to be such a thing. The United Nations Agenda 2030 is a sweeping program to take control of our entire world. It launched in 2015 with an ambitious “17 Goals to Transform our World” and 169 targets to hit by the year 2030. That was eight years ago, and we can get a sense of how it’s going. Badly. Tyrannically. Farcically. Reading from the Agenda announcement itself, in this episode of the New Discourses Podcast, host James Lindsay introduces the 17 Sustainable Development Goals of United Nations Agenda 2030 and shows how every one of them grants the pretext to seize control over the world and all human life and activity in it. Join him to know your enemy.
James Corbett has reported on this in the past:
https://corbettreport.substack.com/p/episode-322-what-is-sustainable-development-b1b
I’ve listened to him off and on over the years. He’s very anti-Malthusian, but I think he tries to be precise in his thinking. I would be very interested to hear a conversation between him and you, Gail.
I listened to the first 15 minutes or so of this poscast. That was far enough to hear about the UN’s agenda 21’s plan to inventory all of the land, resource, and people in the world. Those in central control would round up all of the people into little islands, leaving most of the resources for plants and animals. This way the powers that be could get rid of private property possession and protect the environment.
The first thing I thought of Jared Diamond and his book “Guns, Germs, and Steel.” In the days before antibiotics, he talks about human populations in cities always dropping because there were so many communicable diseases spreading. I would expect that to happen again, if it were actually possible to do this. There would be many other issues. Humans need food, and that means we need to grow crops on the arable part of the land. Farmers need to live near their crops. They need machines and fertilizer, besides seeds. They also need roads. All of these things take resources. We really have to have a system like today. The envisioned system just would not work!
Fake… obviously fake
Iain Davis and Whitney Webb have also been talking about this.
https://unlimitedhangout.com/sustainable-slavery/
https://iaindavis.substack.com/p/the-uns-sdg16-disinformation-campaign
The UN seems to be an organization of primarily poor countries that comes up with ideas that somehow the organizers think will benefit poor countries. Those crafting the ideas don’t understand the strange underlying assumptions.
For example, my experience is that they don’t understand that a circular economy doesn’t work–it takes too much energy to recycle more than a small percentage of most materials. As more and more recycling is done, the amount remaining becomes smaller and smaller.
The temperature on the moon can reach a blistering 250° Fahrenheit (120° Celsius or 400 Kelvin) during lunar daytime at the moon’s equator, and plummet to -208 degrees F (-130° C, 140 K) at night.
https://www.space.com/18175-moon-temperature.html
The moon would not be a good place to vacation, I can see.
Or to take pics with celluloid film.
They had those puffy suits that protected them from the deadly cold and heat… I am not sure how — but apparently they did … not sure how they survived the Van Allen Belts either…
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2b/07/e6/2b07e6acd2c53c3a5f8a911121015059.jpg
And now – decades later — they are unable to repeat their Great Feat…
Technology sucks compared to the Good Ol Days I guess … when they went multiple times in a year
hahahahahahaha
Anyone who believes man has walked on the moon … is mentally ill and stoooopid
Some people believe that Armstrong encountered “something” during an x 15 flight before he was shuttled over to the space program.
Also, ya’ll don’t have to have a psychology degree to recognize that those were three freaked out test pilots in the after mission briefings…….
The world ain’t what we think it is.
Or maybe they felt sheepish knowing they faked the mission.
And space dust traveling at 50,000 mph
Or to breathe. How many hundreds of oxygen cylinders did the astronauts have to take with them?
This just gets more and more and more ridiculous!!!
Yet the mentally ill still believe… that’s cuz they are mentally ill… they also got many Rat Juice boosters cuz they believe… leaving them completely f789ed and even more mentally ill
FE, if you are old enough to remember that when there was a sport event that needs to be telecast live, there was a large truck there bearing the logo of the TV network. It has like generators, equipment and cameras and if I am not mistaken a satellite dish so that it can be beamed up to the satellite and then transmitted around the world. I could always remember the TV van.
Perhaps they had one on the moon? The generator, the van, the transmitter, the equipment. Seems like a whole of stuff is required to transmit live video stream in the 1960s.
All powered by batteries that magically charge in beyond frigid conditions!!!
Magic.
And now they cannot go back cuz ‘technical difficulties’
hahahahahahaah
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Surely they could use rebreathers. But there are plenty other problems with that narrative..
Withnail says:
January 23, 2024 at 6:05 am
“Poor loves. Trained to Empire. Trained to rule the waves. Englishmen could be proud then. They could, George. All gone. Taken away. Bye-bye, world.”
And still people don’t understand it’s because we ran out of coal.
Kulm answers
That is not because Britain ran out of coal. Other parts of the British Empire had lots of coal.
Australia produces coal, for example.
It is because all the talents perished at Flanders, Somme and others. The same thing happened with most European country because of its habit of making educated people serve at the front as officers.
Japan did the same thing during world war2, making university educated lads to smash their rickety flying contraptions into US ships full of rednecks. It is called throwing good money after bad.
Korea did not do that. IN Korea, draft dodging by the more privileged was always in the law, and the scion of the rich and the educated, such as the late owner of Samsung, Lee Kun-Hee, quietly slipped to Japan to avoid fighting. Its best officer corps, during the Korean War, were sent to USA to be educated. They ruled Korea until 1993..
Which is why Korea advanced as much as it did, despite of having little resources to speak of.
I tend to agree with you about the British and some other European nations wasting many of their most talented and best educated human resources in the “meat-grinder” that was WW1.
I suppose we can blame Admiral Nelson for that. “England expects every man will do his duty” was taught to every primary school pupil in history class, even as late as the 1960s when I was in short trousers and conscription and national service had ended.
But more realistically, the traditional social systems were very rigid and not doing “one’s duty” was frowned upon and punished in all sorts of ways. And those systems were far bigger than the people who operated them, Not even a prime minister or a monarch could do much to change anything.
Social engineering on a grand scale had to weight for modern media and other technologies—and killing off the bulk of the old ruling class, and certainly of those with enough courage to “do their duty” through wars may have been pivotal to the success of what came after.
The situation is actually worse than we imagine. If Jesus came back to earth and was born in a stable, these days the entire planet couldn’t put together three men wise enough to pay him a visit.
After all the better men were killed off the first affirmative action Prime Minister, James Ramsey (who took the name MacDonald to feign a noble heritage), who was a bastard.
Aldous Huxley contacted David H Lawrence to write Lady Chatterly’s Lover, to document the fuckup such ‘do your duty’ types did, as an Irish laborer, who dodged the draft and also abandoned his family and didn’t give a rat’s ass about duty, gets to impregnate the lady.
FE, here’s your pathogen X.
How to make covid-zombies and killer-zombies.
The influence of microwaves on living creatures’ behavior
In 1975, a neuropsychologist Don R. Justesen, the director of Laboratories of Experimental Neuropsychology at Veterans Administration Hospital in Kansas City, unwittingly leaked National Security Information. He published an article in “American Psychologist” on the influence of microwaves on living creatures’ behavior.
In the article he quoted the results of an experiment described to him by his colleague, Joseph C. Sharp, who was working on Pandora, a secret project of the American Navy. Don R. Justesen wrote in his article:
“By radiating themselves with these ‘voice modulated’ microwaves, Sharp and Grove were readily able to hear, identify, and distinguish among the 9 words. The sounds heard were not unlike those emitted by persons with artificial larynxes” (pg. 396).
That this system was later brought to perfection is proved by the document which appeared on the website of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency in 1997, where its Office of Research and Development presented the Department of Defense’s project:“Communicating Via the Microwave Auditory Effect”.In the description it said:
“An innovative and revolutionary technology is described that offers a low-probability-of-intercept radiofrequency (RF) communications. The feasibility of the concept has been established using both a low intensity laboratory system and a high power RF transmitter. Numerous military applications exist in areas of search and rescue, security and special operations” (See web.iol.cz)
In January 2007 the Washington Post wrote on the same subject:
“In 2002, the Air Force Research Laboratory patented precisely such a technology: using microwaves to send words into someone’s head… Rich Garcia, a spokesman for the research laboratory’s directed energy directorate, declined to discuss that patent or current or related research in the field, citing the lab’s policy not to comment on its microwave work. In response to a Freedom of Information Act request filed for this article, the Air Force released unclassified documents surrounding that 2002 patent — records that note that the patent was based on human experimentation in October 1994 at the Air Force lab, where scientists were able to transmit phrases into the heads of human subjects, albeit with marginal intelligibility. Research appeared to continue at least through 2002. Where this work has gone since is unclear — the research laboratory, citing classification, refused to discuss it or release other materials“
Remote control of the human nervous system
We can only stress again that the world media avoid publishing the full scale of the progress in the research of the remote control of human nervous system. Dr. Robert Becker, who was twice nominated for Nobel Prize for his share in the discovery of the effects of pulsed fields at the healing of broken bones, wrote in his book “Body Electric” about the experiment from 1974 by J. F. Schapitz, released due to the Freedom of Information Act request.
J.F. Schapitz stated:
“In this investigation it will be shown that the spoken word of hypnotist may also be conveyed by modulated electromagnetic energy directly into the subconscious parts of the human brain – i. e. without employing any technical devices for receiving or transcoding the messages and without the person exposed to such influence having a chance to control the information input consciously.”
More here
https://www.globalresearch.ca/psychotronic-and-electromagnetic-weapons-remote-control-of-the-human-nervous-system/5319111
I like Charles Hugh Smith’s latest post:
https://charleshughsmith.substack.com/p/have-our-elites-lost-the-mandate?l
Have Our Elites Lost The Mandate of Heaven?
The top monkeys are doing very well indeed, while the troop is feeling that the Monkey Gods have signaled their displeasure with the failure of the top monkeys.
An excerpt:
Yes, the elites have a responsibility; they are not handling it well at present. Too much Epstein?
Dennis L.
Mish takes on the question of why taxing the rich doesn’t work, to make up for the problem of not being able to tax the poor very much.
https://mishtalk.com/economics/whats-the-big-problem-with-taxing-the-rich-for-progressive-goals/
He says,
I think that this is related to the relatively lower energy use by the rich (compared to income/assets). Also, the rich can simply move away from a high-tax state.
Behold the Power of the Sun. This is what scares the bejeebus out of me. Notice that tiny little dot representing the scale of the Earth compared to the plasma blast that luckily just missed our sorry asses:
Sort of scary! The Earth has somehow managed to avoid a lot of bad things coming this way. Maybe we have an invisible hand helping us.
or the invisible hand has a defined schedule for these things…..
or maybe it is all random. we are puny things in the universe and these giant flares are anyway tiny things on the galactic scale. the metaphor of being in a tiny lifeboat in a stormy ocean is appropriate. we are about to toss overboard 7B to make supplies last longer.
But if you really look at the “planet” via a “call it bullshit and not peanut viewpoint”…….it is obviously a construct…
The living planet is not even close to what the rest of the bodies in the void are….
It is not chance…it is designed…..
Humans should quail by the ramifications.
VAXXER- Ville https://t.me/leaklive/17779 https://t.me/leaklive/17780
This is how I imagine the hospital parking lots will look … as UEP gets into full swing…
I intend to wander through with my baseball bat… and club them to death… like one would a baby seal.
I Told You SO!
Wait till the power goes off … forever https://t.me/leaklive/17766
For some, no need to wait….. Collapse can happen anytime, anyplace, unexpectedly….
CHICAGO (CBS) — A horrific accident in India killed a Chicago area tech CEO and seriously injured the company’s president, and the whole thing was caught on video.
What was designed to be a celebration of success turned tragic when CEO Sanjay Shah, 56, and the company president, Raju Datla, 52, fell 15 feet in front of a packed audience at a party for employees of Vistex, a software company based in Hoffman Estates, Ill.
One of the highlights was an aerial show. A specially designed stage made of wood was elevated 20 feet above the concrete stage using a crane. Shah and Datla were in an iron cage.
They were supposed to be lowered, but the iron chain supporting the cage broke on one side, causing them to fall 15 feet onto the main stage.
A CBS affiliate in India reported that the accident occurred Thursday night with 700 people in attendance to mark Vistex Asia’s successful 25 years in business.
Shah injured his leg and hand. Datla suffered a severe head injury.
Shah died at the hospital, and Datla is in critical condition.
The Vistex flag now sits at half-staff in Hoffman Estates. Vistex is a multinational software company founded by Shah in 1999.
CBS’s India affiliate reported that a case has been registered against the Film City Event Management based on a complaint made by someone from the company.
Hope you find the video Eddie with popcorn…watch out there may be a tap on your shoulder saying You’re next, my Boy!
Why the f these rich people go back to India?
Home, they help their fellow Indians.
Dennis L.
to show off how fat they’ve grown?
The German boss of Britain’s biggest wind turbine maker has warned energy bills will have to keep rising to pay for the green transition as he attacked “fairytale” thinking about net zero.
Joe Kaeser, chairman of Siemens Energy, suggested higher energy bills were inevitable as turbine makers grapple with huge losses, forcing them to pass on costs to their customers.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/01/21/energy-bills-must-rise-pay-for-net-zero-siemens/
No kidding! It was easy to see that the “green transition” would be terribly high cost. It doesn’t really pay the fossil fuel support system enough, either. It was mostly a narrative developed by policymakers who somehow thought that customers could get along with very much less energy. It doesn’t really work that way.
Looking for what works.
Amish are very green, Horse power with no transmission costs, but lose of land for cash crops. Hay is a solar collector.
If I have enough years left, looking at H; scoff if you like. Horses are for a family.
After college, kids have no money for a family, their life is a dead end and no bankruptcy to give them a new start.
Guess: four year colleges are coming for a real crunch, it is the margin which gets you, fixed costs increase as a percentage too fast with declining revenue.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/lifestyle-buzz/a-recent-study-revealed-that-fewer-young-men-are-choosing-to-pursue-college-with-a-gradual-decline-of-four-year-college-enrollments-over-the-past-decade/ar-BB1h6qSp?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=01dc6823155a465da63800f7154f910d&ei=6
Pretty easy to make $100k/ year in the trades. Look at that income with no expenses of college payments and it is greater than most graduates. And, you can have a family, you can work with your hands and “fix” up a home. Other benefit, “side job.” Think about that one for a bit and you will get it.
Kids come out of high school, girls can’t sew, cook, boys can’t saw a piece of wood, make something useful.
Perhaps men and women will have to learn how to live with one another, cut costs and sex will stop being an extracurricular subject. Sex is a cheap way to market anything and everything except a stable society. Hollywood movies are so much different today as from the fifties. It is trash, the kids don’t have a chance.
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Your God will probably need those with a long alphabet soup of credentials which needs a B.S. as a prerequisite
“It was mostly a narrative developed by policymakers who somehow thought that customers could get along with very much less energy. It doesn’t really work that way.”
Economist, Martin Armstrong basically said the same thing. He wrote that policymakers never think things thru because they approach problems from the bureaucratic side and their solution(s) is that it will work, because they put the idea into place.
It’s like saying I will be a billionaire and not having a plan or a clue, how to be a billionaire but because I believe it even without a plan or idea, it will happen.
Policymakers see a world powered by clean energy without fossil fuels while reality meets fantasy head on……
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/climate/winter-woes-green-new-deal-turns-deadly/
I have to quarrel with good ol Norm on this one:
”dont like” encompasses world interests.–not my own–i’ve had my time, but i still have concern that the most powerful seat in the world might be occupied by a certifiable lunatic and criminal, and much worse—backed up by those of similar bent.
A certifiable lunatic and criminal the same as the ones currently running the US, and will keep running it if he or anyone else is president. Their lunacy and criminality being the natural reproduction of the logic of capital, not carefully abridged entertainment products claiming to “expose” individual acts of corruption by an arbitrarily designated group of “filthy rich” but never leading to anything substantial beyond a few goats sacrificed to the gods of PR.
Trump is not a valid alternative but he isn’t a worse one either. Certainly not for “world interests” if you include the other 80% of the human race whose blood pays for first world middle-class living standards, and has done for the past couple of centuries.
One of Trump’s major stands seems to be that he will pull the US out of foreign wars. If we don’t really have energy to make the military goods needed to fight the foreign wars, this might not be all bad.
I am doubtful that the US could fight a nuclear war against China/Russia if it wanted to. Most of the equipment that was developed was developed years ago. If any little thing goes wrong, it likely doesn’t work.
Supply chains are necessary to maintain military equipment. These are likely falling apart as much as any supply chains.
“I am doubtful that the US could fight a nuclear war against China/Russia if it wanted to.”
Your doubts are well placed and Adm. Charles Richard would appear to agree.
“Let me be very clear: You cannot life-extend the Minuteman III”
“We can’t do it at all. … That thing is so old that, in some cases, the drawings don’t exist anymore”
“they’re like six generations behind the industry standard,”
“They’re not alive anymore.”
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2021/01/06/minuteman-iii-missiles-are-too-old-upgrade-anymore-stratcom-chief-says.html
Trump is on Alex Soros’ hit list and he has the money and political influence to try it. If a non-democrat did this, they would get a visit from the FBI and Secret Service within 48 hrs.
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/politics/alex-soros-is-a-nut-job-implies-assassinating-trump/
ok ok
i am obviously wrong in my assessment of the don (me and a few others)
obviously he does have some kind of hidden resource that will make america great again
no doubt other ofw’ers who think he’s a selfless philanthropist with the good of humankind at the forefront of his political intent, and god’s chosen messenger on earth, will in due course explain how they arrive at that conclusion.
Since I have never voted, you are wrong once again. Good job!
if you dont vote
more fool you
stop copmplaing
Only fools vote. norm votes
Nobody should ever vote.
that is the mantra of all dictators—actual or wannabes
we know you like Biden. you never say anything bad about him.
if you could stay clear of the pit of conclusion drb
you might notice a previous comment where i said that biden no doubt as many faults.
he’s also of pensionable age
you lost me at “no doubt”
The dollars in that image are silver certificates.. a nice touch.
https://thehonestsorcerer.substack.com/p/the-end-of-the-colombian-age
An excellent explanation of the NATO/Russia grind down war.
Yes, it’s a good summary. Today is the first time I clicked his links – I was turned off by the SS name and figured it was something woowoo. Anyway, he’s right and we all know what’s coming … that is … AI will save us 🙂
FE it is more like an arcade game. Kearney here is 10 billion set um up again.
I think that some of us saw this a few days ago when it came out. It is worth reading. This is an excerpt:
This was fake from the get go … purpose? To make the MOREONS believe that there is enough lithium to allow for the transition to EVs
Thailand has backtracked on an announcement that it found millions of tonnes of lithium deposits last week, with the government downgrading the scope of its discovery.
READ: https://insiderpaper.com/thailand-backtracks-on-scope-of-discovered-lithium-deposits/
“LITHIUM BOOM: ZIMBABWE LOOKS TO CHINA TO SECURE A PLACE IN THE EV BATTERY SUPPLY CHAIN”?
https://cleanenergyfrontier.climatechangenews.com/zimbabwe-lithium-mining-china-ev-battery-supply-chain/?utm_source=Climate+Weekly&utm_campaign=5e7dd7ce6c-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2023_07_28_05_27_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_-6ff1db6665-%5BLIST_EMAIL_ID%5D
Gosh … the technology sure has gone backwards since the 60’s… https://insiderpaper.com/japan-switched-off-moon-lander-lots-of-data-received-space-agency/
Hey – how do you charge batteries when the temperatures are boiling hot or freezing cold?
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2022/08/heatwaves-can-hamper-solar-panels/
https://www6.slac.stanford.edu/news/2021-08-26-how-extreme-cold-can-crack-lithium-ion-battery-materials-degrading-performance
hahahahahaha… what was I sayin? Oh ya … they are dummmmb as f789 … to ask the above does not occur to them.. cuz they are … you know … MOREONS…
And remember the helicopter on Mars…
The temperature on Mars is relatively low, averaging about minus 80 degrees Fahrenheit (minus 60 degrees Celsius). .
Pray tell how the charged the batteries there? hahahahahaha
hahahahaha 8 Billion F789ing MOREONS.
I am surrounded by so many du.nces.
norm – discuss
F.E . believes that Laser reflectors magically appeared on the moon!
Time, date and mission number!
Otherwise B/S!
I just wonder what the reflectors were doing there at the Apollo landing sights, the ones Tom Murphy bounced lasers off. Placed by aliens seems more logical to some. Tom Murphy is a full on doomer these days, so not part of ‘the systems’ secrets in any way..
Magic?
Tom Murphy also says that anyone who left the earth would have a very short life.
The blind … cannot see
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2b/07/e6/2b07e6acd2c53c3a5f8a911121015059.jpg
“American Moon” covered this. Lasers powerful enough can be detected just using the moon’s surface.
Dunning Kruger strikes again.
You don’t like plausible explanations which fit in the realm of known physics?
A lot of that going around these days.
And here we have that scene from American Moon
https://youtu.be/KpuKu3F0BvY?t=2418
Of course you won’t watch it… just like a Vaxxer won’t look at data that shows the Rat Juice is deadly
That’s a symptom of stoopidity
Postkey, are you sure that the laser reflectors are there and that guy who shot the laser actually did it? Are you as sure as the “safe and effective”? The lines separating real and fake is gone and was so obvious post COVID.
Maybe the temperature on Mars is a balmy 27C all year round… allowing the chopper to recharge… probably not though
LOL
Anything in space can only cool using infrared, as there are no other atoms or molecules to conduct heat away. The Mars atmosphere will have some, but … aerogel used as an insulator around the batteries will solve much of this problem of heat loss.
Aerogel is amazing stuff as it is almost light as air and has extremely low thermal conductivity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerogel
Cooling is not the problem
On average, the temperature on Mars is about minus 80 degrees F (minus 60 degrees Celsius) according to NASA. In winter, near the poles, temperatures can get down to minus 195 degrees F
Freezing temperatures across central US have cut electric vehicles’ range and left drivers facing long waits at charging stations
For nearly a week, frigid temperatures from Chicago to northern Texas have made life painful for electric vehicle owners, with reduced driving range and hours of waiting at charging stations.
In Oak Brook, Illinois, near Chicago, on Monday, television reporters found Teslas that were running out of juice while in long lines for plugs at a Supercharger station. The temperature hit a low of -9F (-23C).
Outside Ann Arbor, Michigan, Teslas were plugged in at six of eight charging stations on Wednesday as the wind howled with a temperature of 7F (-14C). At least one driver was nearly out of juice.
It is well known that EVs lose some of their travel range in the cold, especially in subzero temperatures like those that hit the nation’s mid-section this week. Studies found that range loss varies from 10% to 36%. EVs also do not charge as quickly in extreme cold.
Some Tesla owners near Chicago told reporters their cars would not charge at all.
https://archive.ph/CtkiX#selection-1455.0-1503.348
Wow!!! I ask again – how do you charge a battery at -60????
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Guess what – the Mars mission … was fake. Guaranteed – Fake.
Everything is fake. Ya’ll been played
but when everything is fake
those of us who experience the rare experience of reality–recognise it for what it is.
those who live a life of fake at every level
never know anything else.
Ok norm … so how did they charge the batteries on Mars… yet in weather 1/4 as cold — the Tesla batteries would not charge?
If you refuse to answer you admit to being a d.unce.
hahaha duh https://archive.ph/CtkiX#selection-1455.0-1503.348
WTF? https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/91344
Kinda like how nixon had a phone call with the guys on the moon hahahaha
People are just so f789ing dummmb
F.E . believes that Laser reflectors magically appeared on the moon!
Time, date and mission number!
Otherwise B/S!
Um. the Soviets did it with out humans on the moon. Next question.
Time, date and (US) mission number please.
TV images?
Come on man … don’t make a fool of yourself… it’s all fake. Man has never gone below low Earth orbit e.g. the space station
Oh I know. I just like to throw out the occasional… “could it be this?”…. just for a fun argument. In this case, I see raster lines, so its probably going to be TV images.
But, generally… Im on your side. Actually, it was you who convinced me to watch American Moon… and… well, there is no looking back.
1. Reduce less-necessary production
This is about
scaling down destructive sectors such as fossil fuels, mass-produced meat and dairy, fast fashion, advertising, cars and aviation, including private jets. At the same time, there is a need to end the planned obsolescence of products, lengthen their lifespans and reduce the purchasing power of the rich.
I’m assuming the point about the rich is because of their lopsided impact on emissions. But there’s a bit more to it. There’s a whole lot of corporate governance changes that are also needed to reduce the way that growth is baked into corporate behaviour:
For example, the ‘fiduciary duty’ of company directors needs to be changed. Instead of prioritizing the short-term financial interests of shareholders, companies should prioritize social and environmental benefits and take social and ecological costs into account.
And a bit more again: we’ll also need macro-economic models that don’t just focus on GDP but allow policy makers to balance multiple objectives—economic, financial, social and ecological. These do exist, but are typically single country models.
2. Improve public services
This is because good quality public services can deliver a good quality of life that is coupled with lower resource use. Buses are a more sustainable transport solution than private cars, for example.
This will also require different forms of financing:
Governments must stop subsidies for fossil-fuel extraction. They should tax ecologically damaging industries such as air travel and meat production. Wealth taxes can also be used to increase public resources and reduce inequality.
Governments that issue their own currencies can use these as a mechanism for this, as they did to bail out the banks in 2008 and pay for furloughed workers in 2020. The researchers don’t mention this, but where governments are investing in green infrastructure this typically has revenue streams attached to it, so can be separated out from current expenditure—and represents an attractive investment for long-term investors such as pension funds.
3. Green jobs guarantee
This would train and mobilize labour around urgent social and ecological objectives, such as installing renewables, insulating buildings, regenerating ecosystems and improving social care. A programme of this type would end unemployment and ensure a just transition out of jobs for workers in declining industries or ‘sunset sectors’, such as those contingent on fossil fuels.
The article suggests that some kind of basic income guarantee might be part of this, but I’d suggest that a “good jobs guarantee” is more important. I contributed to some work with the British Trades Union Congress on this a few years ago (the report they published is here).
One of the critical issues in the room was that jobs in the oil and gas sectors were well-paid, skilled, and unionised (these three facts are connected) but many of the emerging jobs in the renewables sector were not. The trades unionists in the room were pretty clear that they weren’t going to voluntarily swap well-paid and unionised work for poorly-paid non-unionised work. And given that well-paid skilled work drives productivity, why should they?
the elders plan for us this is only 3 parts of 5 parts it does seem to make sense maybe their will be no depopulation if we accept these choices .
I don’t have a lot of hope for the plans laid out by the elders.
For example, there is a reason why oil and gas jobs pay well. They really add to the productivity of the whole system. Renewables jobs add essentially nothing, except what the debt-based subsidies provide. You can’t fix this.
The idea of making products last longer and making products use less energy (or less water) seem work in opposite direction. More complexity tends to correspond to less durable.
There is also a problem with lower energy consumption per capita leading to lower wages. Manufacturers need to create less expensive goods, so that consumers can afford them. This leads to building shoddy goods that wear out quickly.
“Different forms of financing” is mentioned as being needed. This is simply different forms of borrowing from the future. The US has been somewhat protected in adding debt because it has the reserve currency. But other countries find their currencies dropping relative to the US$. Ultimately, the result seems likely to be inflation, not more goods and services.
“Green jobs guarantee”?
Oh FFS, just get another booster.
The swamp has 100,000 senior government employees, 100,000 senior military, 100,000 senior state employees. How will one person Trump change that?
Same way that Obama did
Same way he did last time, oh, that’s right he didn’t change anything…
Combination of inertia and the extent of control of the overall system by the powers that be, who are different from the elected officials. They tend the wealthy owners of corporations and supposedly charitable organizations. The President himself doesn’t actually have much power.
Also, the financial situation makes a big difference in the operation of the overall system. The president doesn’t have much control over this.
The energy system has a whole lot of inertia imbedded into it. The way it can be harmed or helped is less than obvious. More demand (through more wars) may be helpful to the system. Subsidies can’t work for the long term.
The wizard of Oz is a not so subtle metapho r.for the situation in the US somewhere around 1880s or so I believe. Already then the public knew about the real money influence. The yellow brick road is a direct reference to the elite and bankers attempt to reinstate the gold standard.
One thought that I have had is that even a gold standard will not entirely fix the situation if the actual goods and services being produced falls. The same quantity of gold will tend to buy less and less. Thus, even with a gold standard, there will tend to be inflation in costs (measured in gold) for the same product.
IF this is correct it would make sense to exterminate everyone in 2024… before the Gates of Hell open
https://thehonestsorcerer.substack.com/p/2025-a-civilizational-tipping-point
Houston this is Fast Eddy … I have safely traversed the deadly Van Allen Belts and the high tech module made of tin foil and duct tape has landed safely … crrrrkkkk..
Roger that Fast Eddy… crrrk…
Houston .. some outer panels on the module are falling off … what do I do about that??? crrrrkkkk
Roger than Fast Eddy… there is a rivet gun in the second drawer to your left… just re-attach them… crrrkkk
https://wiki.tfes.org/images/8/85/AS11-40-5922HR.jpg
We’ve come a long way in 60 years!!!
https://hackaday.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/indiamoon_feat.jpg
https://wiki.tfes.org/images/8/85/AS11-40-5922HR.jpg
🙂
I think at Smithsonian they have some supposedly original artifacts.
I’ve seen it back in 1997. It at least makes you think “reality differs from what you thought it should be”.
Maybe now it’s at this floor
https://airandspace.si.edu/multimedia-gallery/nmb-printed-mapjpg
For each individual reality is a probability space.
For everything you are told you might want to take into account >=1 alternative explanations at least with some small but non-zero probability.
Or at least keep in mind that some alternative explanation might exist — even if you can’t come up with a specific one. Or you think it all trough, do your own calculations, experiments, observations and come to your own conclusions.
Also there is the concept of a “silent lie”. Here a quote from
https://www.usmedicine.com/editor-in-chief/among-other-common-lies-we-have-the-silent-lie/ (the article is kind of odd itself)
“Among other common lies, we have the silent lie — The deception which one conveys by simply keeping still and concealing the truth. Many obstinate truth-mongers indulge in this dissipation, imagining that if they speak no lie, they lie not at all.” —Mark Twain (1835-1910)
So, WRT the picture.
It really looks suspicious and I have serious doubts.
If humans want to fly to Mars this needs to be sorted out.
Apparently they use solar panels and battery storage on Mars….
The problem is … as we know … even in moderately cold weather the battery capacity plummets…
The characteristic temperature on Mars in the lower atmosphere is about 200 kelvins (K; −100 °F, −70 °C), https://www.britannica.com/place/Mars-planet
Now I am wondering how they made this battery powered contraption work… and how they charged the batteries on the landing contraption …
I am thinking… the Mars thing… is fake…. actually I can guarantee you it is f789ing fake… there is NO way in hell they could charge batteries at those temperatures….
Anyone who believes otherwise … is either stooopid – or mentally ill.
https://1721181113.rsc.cdn77.org/data/images/full/51483/nasa-loses-contact-with-ingenuity-mars-helicopter-during-its-72nd-flight.jpeg
https://1721181113.rsc.cdn77.org/data/images/full/51502/nasa-reestablishes-contact-with-ingenuity-mars-helicopter-after-an-unexpected-outage.jpeg
I actually went to the above and read it myself….unlike Eddie..
Enjoy his last paragraph
As a profession, healthcare providers continue to enjoy a privileged position in society as reliable sources for factual information regarding public health. Perhaps more than at any time in our history, we cannot allow misinformation or deception to confuse the American population regarding the COVID-19 vaccination. It is our duty to inform our patients fully regarding the benefits and side effects of the vaccine. This information must represent the best available science and be politically agnostic. Furthermore, as uncomfortable as it can be, we must actively challenge the anti-science and anti-vaccination attitudes of those who would deter others from receiving the vaccination for dubious reasons. We must educate our patients that the vaccination protects them directly and, in time, will provide protection for fellow citizens who might not have the luxury of receiving a vaccine.
Conquering the COVID-19 pandemic is the task for federal medicine in 2021. If we are true to this goal, truthful in our profession, and truly supportive of our Constitution, we can make 2021 a sight better than 2020 (no matter how ridiculously low a bar that is).
Not too silent lie..
F.E . believes that Laser reflectors magically appeared on the moon!
Time, date and mission number!
Otherwise B/S!
Not only that, but measurements before the reflector were installed and then afterwards. I’d like to have a look at how the signal amplitude get boosted (no pun intended) by the reflector.
I bet any reasonably powerful laser need no absurd and puny reflectors.
Airline pilot indicted for allegedly threatening to shoot the captain ‘multiple times’ if the flight was diverted for a passenger’s medical emergency
‘A pilot has been indicted for allegedly threatening to shoot the plane’s captain if the captain diverted the flight because of a passenger who needed medical attention.’
‘[…] Dunn was the first officer, or co-pilot, on the flight and was authorized to carry a gun under a program run by the Transportation Security Administration.
“After a disagreement about a potential flight diversion due to a passenger medical event, Dunn told the Captain they would be shot multiple times if the Captain diverted the flight,” the inspector general’s office said.’
https://fortune.com/2023/10/31/pilot-indicted-allegedly-threatening-shoot-captain-diverted/
Wild times.
But what I can’t get over, the thing that just keeps churning in my mind, is that some jackass watched Djokovic play a match, in person, saw how completely he dominated, saw how absurdly healthy and fit he is, and then — at match point, at the end — shouted at him to get vaccinated, like he was rebuking someone for an appalling failure. Why won’t you protect your health, you stupid…most powerful and dominant professional athlete in the world.
https://chrisbray.substack.com/p/vaccines-provide-complete-immunity
How does myocarditis cause heart attack?
Severe myocarditis weakens the heart so that the rest of the body doesn’t get enough blood. Clots can form in the heart, leading to a stroke or heart attack. Treatment for myocarditis may include medications, procedures or surgeries.
How does myocarditis cause sudden death?
Sudden death may be due to a cardiac arrhythmia secondary to infiltration of the conduction system of the heart by inflammation or due to myocyte damage caused by the inflammatory infiltrate, leading to cardiac failure and cardiogenic shock.
How does myocarditis affect the heart?
Myocarditis affects your heart’s electrical system and muscle cells, leading to irregular heart rhythms and problems with your heart’s pumping function. In severe cases, your heart becomes too weak to adequately pump enough blood to the rest of your body.
What happens to heart rate with myocarditis?
Myocarditis occurs when the heart muscle becomes inflamed. When your heart muscle is inflamed, it can affect your heart’s electrical system. This can cause arrhythmia, or a rapid or abnormal heartbeat.
Does the heart fully recover from myocarditis?
Some people with myocarditis may need medications for just a few months and then recover completely. Others may have long-term, permanent heart damage that needs lifelong medication. It’s important to have regular health checkups after a diagnosis of myocarditis to check for possible complications.
Does myocarditis permanently damage the heart?
Myocarditis can interfere with heart function, and the heart muscle can be permanently damaged. Scar tissue may form as a result of the inflammation and interfere with heart function, plus increase the risk for abnormal heart rhythms. However, myocarditis doesn’t always cause permanent damage to the heart.
BOOM!
What is the life expectancy after myocarditis?
Once the heart muscle is damaged, it cannot be repaired by the body. Within five years of diagnosis, the death rate from myocarditis is 50%.
https://www.calendar-canada.ca/frequently-asked-questions/how-does-myocarditis-cause-heart-attack
You cannot unf789 yourself — if the Rat Juice f789s you.
keith found that out the hard way… RIP keith
Keith was a brave man for challenging the Scientologists, and in my opinion, an unjustly persecuted one. He was convicted in California on some BS charges, bankrupted by fines, sentenced to jail, did a runner to Canada, eventually forced to return and serve time. I imagine he must have suffered greatly at the hands of the legal and prison system. Not quite the full Assange treatment, but hideous enough.
After going through all that, it is incredible that he could have been credulous enough to trust these people and believe the official narratives about the pandemic and the vaccines, which broke the credibility meters of most independent thinkers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Henson
One last thing, in the interests of disambiguation, and for new reader orientation, I’d like to point out that Keith didn’t create the Muppets.
He didn’t but he was the original muppet…
RIP keith … it could have been worse without the boosters – right norm?
two of the stooges are down …. one to go…
No doubt Robert was a victim of the Rat Juice… but he was not a stooge
3 OFWers dead from Rat Juice… norm is the last man standing… bravo norm… must be the Nasty that is keeping you alive
Keith comes and goes in commenting on OFW. He is probably doing something else right now. Fast Eddy has just made this up. Keith uses his own name. If he really died, some of us would figure this out. For one thing, his Wikipedia article would be updated. Also, he is well enough known that I likely would get an email about it from some group I am in.
On the other hand, Duncan hasn’t been around in a long time. We know that this was a pseudonym. If he is back, he is using a different screen name.
keith has been Weekend at Bernies for a long time…
eddy made something up?
whatever is the world coming to?
Just like Fast Eddy invented the vax injured son… that everything believes is real…
Like the moon landings… and the batteries that can be charged in – 100C hahaha
hope we are not speaking of keith in the past tense?
i liked him—a nice guy, with an intellect way beyond most mortals, but his intellect had become sidetracked into nonsenses–cryo–space elevators etc–could put across his point of view with calm courtesy, didnt need to resort to expletives to make a point.
still a bit of an oddball though.
if something could be calculated to ”work”—then it would.—a victim of his own calculator.
life isnt like that
i hadnt read his wiki entry—says a lot.
he recognised utter stupidity and wasnt afraid to stand up and say it—take guts to do the stuff he did.
Keith has a section in BrainyQuotes. This is a good question:
“Could people be trained to be less gullible? Or are you as stuck with gullibility as you are with skin colour?”
What group would have an interest in training people to be less gullible? Not the politicians, the priests, the advertisers, the military, the bankers or the broadcasters. And not the people themselves either, since gullibility is the foundation of peace of mind.
1-30 have some degree of myocarditis from the Rat Juice – 30-50% will die within 5 yrs
Are you going to invite us all to the new house for a house warming? We will fly in. Think of how much FF we can burn. How about May 1,2024?
3 weeks left in the yr of the rabbit – we may all be dead by then (or in the process)
best not to make plans
What timeline are you going to start promoting when in 3 weeks nothing happens?
If resources are running short in chimp culture the outcast sub group is driven off and then hunted down and killed. In Israel much the same seems be happening.
I think you are right.
“Sugar, without question, is the number one murderer in the history of humanity—much more lethal than opium or radioactive fallout.” ~~Dr. Nyoiti Sakurazawa
https://drtenpenny.substack.com/p/the-sweetest-poison-on-the-shelf
Agreed. Big Food is so powerful that they have hidden the sugar problem. Cookies and desserts of all types are huge in the US. This makes the situation worse. Even artificially sweetened food is not good–it still gives a person a sweet taste, and it seems to interfere with the balance of the gut microbiome.
Fast Eddy Update — Just enjoying a sugarless organic expresso coffee… after the usual post gym 20 minute nap with Hoolio…
BTW – it’s 12C here today — what happened to the worming?
Ha ha.. that’s my temp, indoors! (Got a frozen radiant heating loop atm.)
A sugar cube without question silently walked into a bar.
Eddy was there having his usual.
He felt a sudden bust of inflamation.
The cube cought his eye, with one of it’s corners.
The two staired oneother down, evaluationg each others IQube levels.
The glocose levels in the room began to rise.
It was quzz night.
The cube squared into position.
Eddy noted how sharp and crisp it looked, but noted a crumb trail
They both prept their bunsin burners.
The first question category was calortic energy..
“How much standard energy is there in an energy high, caliare low banana on a boneta banan televised commercial?…
He was not a doctor.
Nyoichi Sakurazawa was his real name but he preferred to go as George Ohsawa, and he did found the macrobiotic diet but was mostly a charlatan.
Funny https://nakedemperor.substack.com/p/a-picture-is-worth-a-thousand-words-3ee/
Hey norm — if you watch this you will learn how you die https://rumble.com/v470daf-potential-clinical-implications-of-geerts-viral-shift-predictions.html
It’s better than starving … so you made a good decision — as long as a vax injury doesn’t get you…
keith is dead. It’s official. Rat Juice induced heart attack
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/bienvenidos-supremes-roberts-barret-join-libs-allowing-biden-remove-texas-border-wire
As a corollary to the implied natural order of (male) populations defending their territories to preserve sufficient resources to ensure their group’s survival, we need to return to our Forefathers’ wisdom in not allowing women, or those who have no property, business or wealth generating capacity to vote (or hold political /judicial positions.) Women are hard wired to nurture, not to defend territories like males. Women are a subset of liberals, who, especially during times of plenty, will give away the very thing that males give their lives trying to protect. Politicians in their eternal search for votes, passed the 19th amendment to expand the liberal voting base. When politicians can print money to pay for the things that they promise to voters in exchange for voters, liberalism overwhelms the conservative nature of a country needed to preserve itself. A pure Democracy assures its own self destruction. The protection of a country or tribe’s borders is or should be the prime directive of leaders.
It is no surprise that the four female Supreme Court justices voted to remove the razor wire and thus open the flood gates to low IQ, unskilled invaders who hate us.
Roberts is a woman, has no masculinity, is a wimp, and is controlled. I knew this immediately when he allowed Obamacare to be passed. Was he on Epstein’s list? His undocumented adopted (Irish?) children are but a diversion.
The need by the elites to allow our country to be savaged by such a relentless onslaught of foreign invaders must be very strong indeed.
https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/1703984056717758537?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1703984056717758537%7Ctwgr%5Ea790f78d87abfb485f4cd7cdc9a871bdf97f6596%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com%2Fnews%2F2024-01-22%2Fbidens-cynical-pre-election-border-plan
I’ve said this before, but the people complaining today about immigration as if there is still something useful to be done are fools yelling at the clouds. https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/old-man-yells-at-cloud
The demographic changes are already locked in by changes in the child-bearing demographics. The time to “defend your heritage/lineage” was 40-70 years ago but boomers and their parents didn’t do so. Look at birth totals by ethnicity for confirmation, if you care.
I believe the elites are bribed and black mailed by China and maybe Russia. It is an effective 5th gen warfare weapon.
What does norm have in common with Hunter and Joe (his idols)…
Take a guess (more so Joe than Hunter though)
The PO dilemma has been known for a long time but the only solution was to drain reserves and increase consumption.
Either decision makers are:
1) retarded
2)Know of other energy sources
3)like chaos
4)?
Conservation , less waste, or efficiency were no goes.
Is the max power principle in play somehow?
“The maximum power principle can be stated: During self-organization, system designs develop and prevail that maximize power intake, energy transformation, and those uses that reinforce production and efficiency.”
Well we can throw out the efficiency part.
If the energy is available use it as fast as possible for any stupid endeavor.
Sounds sort of the way a dissipative structure works.
The amount of energy used depends on the structure of society.
Remember, this is all just a coincidence!
“Journalist Who Attacked Top Tennis Player For Refusing COVID Vaccine Dies Suddenly” 🤡
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/journalist-who-attacked-top-tennis-player-refusing-covid-vaccine-dies-suddenly
Perhaps there is a little justice in the current system.
It’s affectionately referred to as Karma and note, in the article the Tennis player who was hit by the now deceased individual offered his condolences to the journalist family.
He had to do that … but inside he’s laughing his ass off…
As am I.
hahahahahaha
hahahahahahahaaha
Did I mention I was hiking with someone 20 yrs younger than me on the weekend … nothing particularly difficult … but on every uphill section he had to stop a couple of times gasping for air… I was worried that I might have to carry him out of the bush…
Double vaxxed. Heart damage????
I must admit that this story has cheered me up this morning.
“Mike Dickson, a tennis reporter who said Novak Djokovic chose a ‘strange hill to die on’ by refusing to get vaccinated has died suddenly at the age of 59.”
Even Norman has got to see the funny side of that.
We have our own version of that with keith … + dunc is probably long dead…
https://youtu.be/yD0XIowNAG8?t=74
I am! I am! I am definitely … entertained!!!!
I wonder if Novak is overdosing on SCHAD this week?????
Surely he has to be thinking .. f789 you c789.
I have seen a few bodies of my enemies come down the river, but schad was not the feeling. Rather vindication that some of my choices were not so bad. The next thought is or was, on to the next challenge. Vindication energizes you.
I have posted before that in order to be able to even address, much less solve our problems of energy, food, natural resources, pollution, etc., we need 4 things:
1.) Honest money (get rid of the FED and fiat fractional reserve debt based banking money printing)
2.) Honest media (currently controlled by 5-6 major J-ish media elites as well as sites like PornHub)
3.) Honest elections (to the point that only those who have skin in the game should be allowed to vote, not those who vote for redistribution of wealth from producers to parasites as our Founding Fathers recognized
4.) Rule of law and elimination of lawfare.
We have none of these, so we have nothing to work with. There will be no legal, constitutional or political remedies, so pick your poison: A slow grinding, slow boil, decline in living standards at best vs violent upheaval, civil war, and with it the possibility of a Robespierre-like Reign of Terror aftermath that fills the vacuum before a decentralized form of existence returns the survivors to the pre-ICE human existence baseline.
At 27:20 into the interview, David Webb points out the crucial factor in why we will NOT be able to address our predicament, which is more easily seen in the primate example that I posted a few weeks ago about the Ugandan Ngogo chimpanzee empire.
Centralization of government cannot possibly work, even in a homogenous population once you reach a critical population size. Now introduce diversity, equity , and inclusion and you have a combustive mixture of red and black ants thrown into a jar and shaken. Diversity is NOT strength, just like all the other hoaxes being perpetrated on us. Diversity is DISRUPTION and DESTRUCTION. This situation is tolerated for a while as long as food, energy and materials are available. But once these start to get squeezed, the mantle of a polite civilization will crumble. Nature intended diversity only to the extent of exiled members of a clan being beneficial as to spread diversity into the gene pool.
Webb states that in every population, there are sociopaths and psychopaths, i.e., those who lack empathy or those who actually derive pleasure in torturing others. They form about 2-3% of every population. In this segment at 27:20, he points out that in primates, the communities have evolved so they form about 30-50 individuals (Ngogo has 150 or so) which is the size such that everyone knows the everyone else, their strengths and weaknesses, i.e., those whom you want to take on a raiding party to defend your borders, vs those whom you do not want to leave alone with your children. In our centralized society, this familiarity has been completely lost. Hell, I didn’t even learn the names of my apartment renters when I was renting a few years ago.
What is the survival value of having sociopaths and psychopaths?
My only explanation is that having sociopaths and psychopaths, even within your own closed knit community, makes all members in a community aware of the potential for treachery and thus more resistant to aggression from outside tribes- it is worth the sacrifice.
Even though Webb does not the directly address the energy situation, and Webb has spoken about and published this “The Great Taking” free on PDF recently, everyone probably should still listen to this entire interview. Webb covers a broad spectrum of things.
https://clicks.aweber.com/y/ct/?l=PSp3i&m=3cWRfnwQgk6cBfA&b=L4XyIFfBK5MjUchNbVQU.A
Part about sociopathy starts @ 27:30
I spent a good 30 years of my life trying through various means to make people begin to change lifestyles and politics to better reflect the realities of the biosphere. It took me years to recognize what sociopathy truly is and how it manifests. Once you can see it, you can never unsee it.
I was shocked to discover that I had several close family members who were textbook sociopaths…..which explained a great deal about family dynamics and how hopeless these personalities are to deal with.
It also made me understand that structural collapse is built into our species if we attempt “civilization”. The sociopaths will always block corrective actions.
Maybe that is the teaching of this simulacrum?
We should stop trying this
I despise the human species… but I have great empathy for all other animals… is that a paradox? I don’t consider myself a socio or psycho path … hating the devil and wanting him extinct… is not an unacceptable position to hold
Hoolio had his stitches out today — he also had a chip inserted (Aussie requires and the buyer of the Goat Ranch has come around … but it isn’t done till it’s done)
I shot two rabbits and gave them to him – he was very pleased.
I think that people misunderstand evolutionary survival strategies. There is (usually) no advantage conferred to the host organism by a parasite. Using this analogy, broader society is the host and the psychopath the parasite. The latter need not improve society, however they will provide evolutionary pressure on the longer timescale to favor cultures/societies/peoples that are able to detect, mitigate, resist, and/or eliminate these parasites.
Hubbs, we will not have the four items until after the transition. Best case 50 years.
We have none of these, so we have nothing to work with. There will be no legal, constitutional or political remedies
Such remedies are useless. Only energy matters.
So in an epic battle, do you want the paths in your team or not?
Is there anything much you could do about it?
In war there are no rules., maybe only personal preferences like ‘survive’
Paths have no rules, maybe no fear (you won’t know) , no care, ( you don’t know)
They enjoy sard by definition and like to be in control, so are most likely to be among your commanding officers, think about that.
Shadowing a path might raise your odds, or get you expended
Follow the epic hero? or the epic fool?
Being able to switch off emotion could be useful?
Play at being the neurotic caring leader
Now That’s what a path would do.
According to the recently-released coroner’s report, Charlbi’s sudden and unexpected death from sepsis last August was a complication from surgery she had ten years before. If you believe that. Officials based that conclusion on the fact that Charlbi had her spleen out after a bad car accident in 2013, and then she got bacterial sepsis in 2023 and died.
Even more bad luck, her “surgical complication” took a decade to show up, but then it went unbelievably fast:
Days after she died, Dean’s brother Alex Jacobs told Rolling Stone that her sudden death in New York City on Monday happened after she began experiencing “minor” symptoms and soon asked her fiancé, Luke Volker, to take her to an emergency room. She died just hours later.
“This happened literally within the span of a day: getting a headache, going to sleep, waking up her boyfriend and saying please take me to the hospital,” (Charlbi’s brother Alex) Jacobs told Rolling Stone.
Blaming Charlbi’s sudden death on her missing spleen is rubbish; a total cop-out. The truth is they have no idea why the poor girl died of a septic bacterial infection, inside of a few hours from start to finish, and they are too chicken to speculate about what could actually have caused that. Cowards.
https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/recovering-monday-january-22-2024
Bacterial infection and sepsis are no joke. An infection can go from something that looks like a zit or mosquito bite to death in 24-48 hours.
Yes, but if you look jnsidecthe article, a sepsis 10 years after a surgery is an excuse that doesn’t stand much up…
Yeah… isn’t that awesome!
I have the second half of this to watch today … sucks to boost and wreck your immune system…. all kinds of stuff can go wrong
https://rumble.com/v470daf-potential-clinical-implications-of-geerts-viral-shift-predictions.html
Oh my … I could not be more delighted…. I am bursting with SCHAD!!!!
hahahahahahahahaha
Sarah Ferguson, 64 is the UK’s Duchess of York. One of her spokesmen told reporters that, “Following her diagnosis with an early form of breast cancer this summer, Sarah, Duchess of York has now been diagnosed with malignant melanoma.” My goodness.
Talk about bad luck. Especially for people who enjoy the very best doctors, diet, and medical care in the entire world. Since I’m a lawyer, not a mathematician, I asked Bard A.I. to compute the odds of getting blue-blooded breast cancer and malignant monarchic melanoma in the same six-month period. The A.I. calculated some pretty long odds:
“Based on individual risks and incidence rates, the odds of developing both breast cancer and skin cancer in the same six-month period would be extremely low, likely in the range of one in millions or even billions.”
Seems pretty atypical. And Sarah’s bit of bad luck was combined with King Charles’s misfortune, as right now the Royal Person is habituating in the hospital getting prepped for enlarged prostate surgery. And on top of those mishaps is the poor Princess of Wales, Kate Middleton, who is also nesting in the hospital, recovering from her mysterious “abdominal surgery.”
How do you like those odds? Three related Royals with three weird atypical medical conditions all at the same time. I didn’t even bother asking Bard to run the numbers, it would probably self-destruct.
Oh — one more thing. The double-cancer-struck Duchess was enthusiastically jabbed; a celebrity jab advocate:
https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/recovering-monday-january-22-2024
And let’s not forget the dear late old Queen, known to her subjects as “Ma’am”, who died suddenly and unexpectedly just two days after shaking hands with Liz Truss.
Ha ha YES – f789 her too!
She sure went downhill rapidly…
I’d like to see the king on the end of a rope — or is it the pope?
How about both of them?
Better still – skinned alive… and hanging from a lamp post hahaha
I will enjoy the End of the World… I will indeed
The Queen was very old. Very old people often die.
Look at how stooopid they are .. they think SS owners are heroes hahaha https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/on-fearing-freedomplus-thanking-substack/
This is a very good essay (with lots of humorous illustrations) on the censorship that Mainstream Media is trying to provide.
Wow — see how easy it is to fool people …
Now imagine if FE was engaged by the PR Team and he understood the necessity of the extermination … he could be very convincing … just like all those embedded folks on Substack are… e.g. Malone Kirsch McCullough etc….
https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/father-speaks-to-pharmacist-after/
This is called:
Father Speaks to Pharmacist After His Son Was Diagnosed With Myocarditis Caused by the COVID Kill Jab
“So, you are NOT telling people about the potential side-effects, because you are scared that might cause them to NOT get vaccinated? “
FE you sound like Jordan Petersen in that clip.
Did you ever do a follow up hassle?
Funny you should mention that … a property agent told me the same thing a few months ago. I said oh yeah — Jordan is Fast Eddy’s low IQ brother…. ba-dum tsss….
There was no follow up – don’t even recall the pharmacy as I was working the numbers calling a lot of them till I hit that jackpot
Lol.
Jordan Peterson has a great video on his channel where he talks about the “most dangerous man” he ever met.
In a maximum security prison. Little guy, unassuming, very informed and bright. Pulled him aside, away from a bunch of tatted gangsters in prison gym. Talked at length with young Jordan as they walked the yard.
Guy was locked up for murdering a pair of cops
He had handcuffed them with their own cuffs and shot both as they begged for their lives.
This was way back in the day of course.
I smiled as Jordan described him……..I know this guy myself, he was very helpful and kind to me. Almost a kindred spirit……
Thought you might like that little sidebar Edward?
The best part is the last minute when Fast Eddy hurls profanities at the vile bitch.
Well done Fast Eddy – bravo!
(Fast Eddy takes a bow – asks for his trophy)
Hey norm … when FE says he abuses the medical folks… as you can see… he ain’t exaggerating… hahahaha…
Wow — see how easy it is to fool people …
Especially those who believe in magic!
Dennis L. says:
January 21, 2024 at 1:38 pm
So assume the serfs only get 1% of the gross. Do you want 1% of a $1B or 1% of $1M?
Kulm answers.
It does not matter if it is 1% of $1b , $1 trillion or even $1 quadrillion since the gains of the future tech will be monopolized by one person or at most the very few, and the rest split over a billion ways or more.
Sure, if it is a quadrillion, it split by a billion ways means a million, although it won’t really matter when a loaf of bread would be $5000.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1233856/wealth-distribution-uk/
It says on 1910, 1% of all British households owned 69% of all wealth, and the top 10% had 92% of all wealth. The remaining 90% split 8% of all wealth.
That was how it was and that is how it is progressing.
Civilization grew fastest when the wealth was concentrated.
Which, again, shows the impact of the fuckup Brigadier Charles “Chucky” Fitzclarence and his 400 Worcestershires, who are no less guilty but no one bothered to record their names, caused to Civilization.
I think the economy distributes resources using the Maximum Power Principle. It doesn’t go 100% to the wealthy class, and it can’t be entirely even. There needs to be some “happy medium.”
The level of this happy medium seems to have to do with how close to limits the economy is. If resources per capita are very limited, then the wealth and power seems to be very concentrated at the top. Perhaps a few can make it through the impending bottleneck.
If there are lots of resources per capita, then pretty much everyone can continue to live. There is no impending bottleneck. Then a very even distribution of resources can work.
Our leaders would like to tell us that there is no impending bottleneck, but they treat us as if they see an impending bottleneck, and they want all the wealth/power concentrated at the top.
In follow up to my Jordan Peterson commentary…he was just interviewed up here on a well known podcast…he stated unequivocally that Canada is in freefall as a nation state. We have the lowest metrics of any developed nation and all trends are down…..we are the nation state equal to Mississippi.
In reaction to the collapsing economic metrics we are now seeing dramatic swings to the extreme right (as I predicted on here two years back)….Federal courts |(who are utter lapdogs to public sentiment and bellwethers for societal movements) have declared martial law invocation by the Trudeau government Unjust and uncalled for and illegal…….
I predict that before this is over Trudeau and his cabinet will be subject to Nuremburg like trials and executions…..
Short drop hanging from the back of a Kenworth highway tractor are my suggestion…in front of Parliament of course.
Anybody see 20,000 UFC fans chanting in the Toronto venue (F Trudeau) or the interview with Sean Strickland telling a woke reporter to go f him/her/itself……?
There will be open civil war if he defies the public and tries to claim the next election as his own…….
This is coming fast now across the western world…..
It wont stop energy collapse but it will help clear out useless eaters…..
Tim Groves says:
January 21, 2024 at 9:04 pm
“Britain’s always fought against the odds, havent we? The Armada, the Battle of Britain…”
—Prime Minister James Hacker
Kulm answers
And it would have been better if it did not since United Kingdom is more responsible for killing more Europeans than all other countries combined.
Fortunately for the world, although not too much for the British patriots who still think they live in the age of Victoria, Charles III is a WEF stooge and will make sure Britain will never pull off a “Chucky” stunt, ever again.
I’d never say never, Kulm. With WEF stooge Sunak at No.10, it isn’t too difficult to imagine a British expeditionary force landing in Crimea and re-enacting the charge of the Light Brigade. Howitzers right of them. Missiles to the them left of them. Flame throwers in front of them. Chechens armed with mortars, grenades and Kalashnikovs behind them. Kamikaze drones above them. Landmines below them…….
For British patriots, nostalgia for the good old days is about all they’ve got left these days.
“Poor loves. Trained to Empire. Trained to rule the waves. Englishmen could be proud then. They could, George. All gone. Taken away. Bye-bye, world.”
“Poor loves. Trained to Empire. Trained to rule the waves. Englishmen could be proud then. They could, George. All gone. Taken away. Bye-bye, world.”
And still people don’t understand it’s because we ran out of coal.
(GCaptain)
Also US soldiers are starting to die in Red Sea.
Wouldn’t be slightly better to stop the war in Gaza?
More than 22.000 Palestinians deaths are not enough?
What is the number of deaths to reach?
https://gcaptain.com/us-navy-says-two-missing-seals-died-in-raid-on-iran-ship/
They got to have an excuse to build the new ship channels dude
I suppose that this could be a possible excuse. Anything “new” requires more debt and hires more workers. It has the possibility of keeping the system afloat longer.
It is to consider that if the so called Ben-Gurion channel will ever be made, merchant ships still need to pass through Gulf of Aden (Houthi / Iran), so I don’t see the advantage, please see the two maps.
Unless FE has in mind other kind of channels.
But I see in general your point, thank you.
https://www.newarab.com/news/what-israels-ben-gurion-canal-plan-and-why-gaza-matters
https://edubaba.in/red-sea-definition-map-facts-for-exam/
Yes, the new channel is a non starter, as is a channel through Thailand. The era of big works is over, specially when it is so easy to block.
Norman is not going to like this one bit.
In the finite and shrinking world of the Republican presidential candidate list, the reliable and redoubtable and saintly Ron DeSantis has thrown in the towel and asked his supporters to shift their weight behind the deceitful, dishonest, deplorable, discreditable, duplicitous, dangerous and thrice-impeached Donald J. Trump.
As a kickback, Trump declared the Ron ‘DeSanctimonious’ nickname “officially retired.”
Ron related his retirement in a mood of resignation:
“If there was anything I could do to produce a favorable outcome — more campaign stops, more interviews — I would do it,” DeSantis said. “But I can’t ask our supporters to volunteer their time and donate their resources if we don’t have a clear path to victory. Accordingly, I am today suspending my campaign.”
DeSantis then said that a “majority of Republican primary voters want to give Donald Trump another chance,” adding that he respects their wishes.
“They watched his presidency get stymied by relentless resistance and they see Democrats using lawfare to this day to attack him. While I have had disagreements with Donald Trump, such as on the coronavirus pandemic and his elevation of Anthony Fauci, Trump is superior to the current incumbent, Joe Biden,” DeSantis said. “That is clear. I signed a pledge to support the Republican nominee and I will honor that pledge. He has my endorsement because we can’t go back to the old Republican guard of yesteryear — a repackaged form of warmed-over corporatism — that Nikki Haley represents. The days of putting Americans last, of kowtowing to large corporations, of caving to woke ideology, are over.”
Trump. He da new old puppet of choice.
He was such a useful puppet last time
the bit i dont like, and which scares me, but see no alternative to
is the fact that idiots remain convinced that voting for the don will solve all their problems. The MAGA nonsense.
that they remain certain that what they have is a political problem
and can’t or wont, recognise it as an energy problem.
that he will give them the 50s and 60s back—with cheap everything.—and there’s a conspiracy afoot to prevent it happening.
Voting for Trump might keep the country out of endless conflict around the world. But this would give less excuse for rising debt and indirect subsidy of the military “industry.”
In some ways, it might represent a bit of a voluntary pull-back. But this might push the US farther toward recession.
But you can’t have it both ways right?
Trump is a positive force….a small one ,but one, none the less
It is surprising that you use the words “dont like” in your first sentence. For you not to like it, it must be going against your interests. And of course I agree, if you are a UK pensioner then it is probably true that your interests are best served by the globalist faction for the next ten years or so. Anything that will disrupt the current system will reflect in diminished standards of living and presumably somewhat increased mortality.
If you live, say, anywhere in the world except Israel UK and US, you tend to support MAGA not so much for what it can do (it can do nothing as you say), but rather for diminishing the potential for global war through internal conflict. That is an aspect that you might want to consider beyond your next pension check.
you seem to have my pension as some kind of odd fixation—at a guess i’d say half of ofw inmates are of pensionable age—maybe more.
i still have, and use, an earning capacity, so not entiurely a burden on the state–so that might relieve you of some concern. I have an annual free eye test—is that ok with you?
pensions derive from paying in for a working lifetime–then drawing out in later life. Is that part of your obvious resentment drb?
if you die early—you lose—if you insist on not dying. like me, you win.
perhaps you prefer the pre-20thc model of being sent to the poorhouse to die?
pensions are only possible within a prosperous and growing environment.
”dont like” encompasses world interests.–not my own–i’ve had my time, but i still have concern that the most powerful seat in the world might be occupied by a certifiable lunatic and criminal, and much worse—backed up by those of similar bent.
of maybe you see jesusfreaks dancing round the potus desk as somehow normal behaviour?
I dont doubt Biden has many faults, but his religion seems genuine, and he doesnt advertise it. Neither does he tweet at 3am—or at any other time as far as i am aware.
‘dont like” was qualifying my comment—perhaps you are more used to expletives?–i dont use them.
Regardless, you must be calculating that Trump is bad for you. That is only true if the current world war does not go nuclear. Were it to go nuclear Trump would have been good for you.
drb
your comments are atarting to make as much sense as eddy’s
just sayin
i think we should give up now
“pensions derive from paying in for a working lifetime–then drawing out in later life. ”
Disagree we are biology and pensions are a transfer of work from the younger to the older. A group made only of well invested older people has a pile full of IOU’s with no one to do the work.
In the US, we take from our young in the form of student debt for nothing. The young are paying the salaries of “teachers” as well as the pensions of the old through employment taxes., both are non deductible so are essentially double the nominal amount with state and local taxes added on.
Dennis L.
So, haley is the candidate of the globalists. De Sanctic is the first candidate of the Zionists. Trump is the second candidate and he will get people like Pompeo or Bolton in his administration. There is no separation between the two wings on global war or mandated vaccines. Remind me why we ought to care.
There’s no “ought” about it. You can care or not as is your wont. If you don’t think it makes any difference who gets to sit in the White House, then there’s no reason to care at all.
But as you were trying to explain to Norman, and Norman was trying not to understand your perfectly reasonable explanation, if one lives outside of the Five Eyes/Oceania, you and I both do, one might be well advised to hope for a Trump victory on the grounds that it would diminish the potential for global war.
Although as I see it, this would not necessarily be due to internal conflict—the US has plenty of that already—but due to the fact that a future Trump administration would be much less likely to pursue policies aimed at stoking a global war.
But if that’s not a good enough reason for you, then at the very least, think of how upset, how outraged, how despondent, how triggered, the all woke folk will be. A Trump win will piss off all the people I most despise in the world. 🙂
That it will piss off Norman too is sad, but I’ll write that off as collateral damage. I think this is a very hard choice, but the price—we think the price is worth it.
i think you miss the point tim—though it is just one point of view among a multitude.—i’ve replied again on this thread as it’s your comment, i’d given up otherwise.—just too silly for words.
i try to see the broader picture, for what it’s worth–petty day to day politics are an irrelevance.–nothing pisses me off, i just find something more interesting to get involved in, if i can.
Trump is obviously mentally unstable–that could take us in all and any direction. But millions think as he does—which is of greater concern.
my concern is not trump per se, but the lunatics he gathers around him, who seem to be driven by some holy purpose—religion and politics always leads to conflict—look at the origins of the israel problem right now, check out its history.
you also have the problem, that the unbalanced leader will do literally anything to stay in office. He is obviously incompetent. All his wrongs are someone else’s fault, or fake news—the mantra of the weakling everywhere. Sexual bragging and obsession and diminution of the opposite sex is another hallmark–true at any level.
Biden, as Ive said, obviously has his faults, but he is not an attention seeker. (constant attention seeking is another mark of weakness)
There are no holy rollers in the oval office at the moment.
if as seems likely, there is financial collapse, (due to energy depletion) then the don will initiate emergency powers, and the military will back him (constitution or no constitution)–Ive been saying mid 2020s for years now—how’s that looking ??
The USA will then fall apart, leaving world power unbalanced.
nature abhors a vacuum—so how will that vacuum be filled?
We been involved in an energy war for a century now, on and off.
would you say that is intensifying–or dying away now?
do yourself a favour tim–try to look at the broad picture, and try to avoid petty biases which have no bearing on what we face.
Interesting as Tom Luongo describes us humans as ” comfortable wolves” > once the comfort will go we will all become wolves . Matches my own thought ” Only in a universe with unlimited resources can men live as brothers ”
https://tomluongo.me/2024/01/19/davos-trust-and-the-end-of-comfortable-wolves/
Today’s bite-sized Latin quote:
https://www.idlehearts.com/2149781/the-latin-proverb-homo-homini-lupus-man-is-a-wolf-to-man
You are alone in the wilderness, there is a wolf and all of a sudden a man appears. Who is you friend, who is dinner?
Dennis L.
For getting along with each other, not necessarily unlimited resources, but ample resources would be nice.
Men can live as brothers, but sadly, my brothers and I never could.
Lock 10 vicious dogs in a cage — feed them all they can eat ground beef… and they will be best mates. Then feed them 1kg of ground beef… and watch them rip each other to pieces…
Try the same experiment with humans… to make it more interesting — give each one of them a knife
The universe has unlimited resources, it is expanding and most of the mass is dark, we can’t see it, we don’t know what it is.
Dennis L.
As Gerald Celente who is the founder of the Trends Journal magazine likes to say: “When people lose everything and have nothing else to lose, THEY LOSE IT!”
That has always been the outcome throughout human history. TPTB can keep pushing people around until there’s a breaking point. We tend to expect changes to be quick especially as we have become a microwave society which expects instant results.
These things take time but we are already getting a preview of what is coming for the TPTB. French farmers were littering government buildings with cow manure. In Germany, farmers clogged the motorway with trucks and farming equipment.
Some may say, so what? Except these things tend to percolate as time goes on. When citizens protest in a non violent manner and TPTB don’t listen, the citizenry tends to up the ante. It gets to a boiling point where the population gets violent and unpredictable. That’s coming, maybe not this year or next but it’s coming because it has happened many times throughout history.
I would not want to be a Davos member, Klaus Schwab, Bill Gates, George or Alex Soros etc.
Only when there are enough resource to go around can people live together without conflict. The period since World War II has mostly been such a period.
Given the life expectancies of people, it is easy for the popular narrative to be that the economy can always grow. There will always be enough for everyone. But this really isn’t the case. Populations always outgrow resources, especially when immigrants are included.
” Only in a universe with unlimited resources can men live as brothers.”
I doubt that. Some humans want/need to be better (higher up) than others. Access to resources is constrained in order to create the “wealthy,” lords, ladies, dukes, barons, kings, the elites, whatever you want to call them. They need a gradient with them at the top or can’t feel good about themselves. For them, there is no such thing as satiety. “Too much ain’t enough.”
{https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lone_Star_Cafe.}
Resources are not uniformly distributed. Property “rights” create chokepoints or gates so that those who “own” nature’s resources can “create wealth.”
Becoming brothers, requires a rewrite of the “spiritual” makeup of humans. Dream on, though. Dream until your dreams come true.
Humans are not alone with hierarchies. In a lot of kinds of animals, there is also a “peking order.”
Also, I understand that a male dog will mark off a territory for himself and his family. This territory is much bigger than is needed for food for the family. It helps keep the dog population down, if the dogs fight to keep other dogs out.
Or, it is always a woman.
Dennis L.