A Video Game Analogy to Our Energy Predicament

The way the world economy is manipulated by world leaders is a little like a giant video game. The object of the game is to keep the world economy growing, without too many adverse consequences to particular members of the world economy. We represent this need for growth of the world economy as being similar to making a jet airplane fly at ever-higher altitudes.

Figure 1. Author’s view of the situation we are facing. World leaders look at their video screens and adjust their controllers to try to make the world economy fly at ever-higher levels.

World leaders look at their video game screens for indications regarding where the world economy is now. They also want to see whether there are specific parts of the economy that are doing badly.

The game controllers that the world leaders have are somewhat limited in the functions they can perform. Typical adjustments they can make include the following:

  • Add or remove government programs aimed at providing jobs for would-be workers
  • Add or remove government sponsored pension plans and payments to those without jobs
  • Add or remove laws regulating efficiencies of new vehicles
  • Change who or what is taxed, and the overall level of taxation
  • Through the above mechanisms, change government debt levels
  • Change interest rates

There are numerous problems with this approach. For one thing, the video game screen doesn’t give a very complete picture of what is happening. For another, the aspects of the economy that can be controlled are rather limited. Furthermore, the situation is very complex–there seem to be several “sides” of the economy that need to “win” at the same time, for the economy to continue to grow: (a) oil importers and oil exporters, (b) businesses and their would-be customers, (c) governments and their would-be taxpayers, and (d) asset holders and the would-be buyers of these assets, such as families needing new homes.

An even bigger problem is a physics problem that is hidden from the view of those operating the control mechanism. Jet airplanes in the real world cannot rise beyond a certain altitude (varying depending upon the plane), because the atmosphere becomes “too thin.” There is a parallel problem in the economic world. The atmosphere that allows an economy to grow is provided by a combination of (a) an increasing supply of cheap-to-produce energy, and (b) increased technology to put this growing energy supply to use. This atmosphere can become too thin for several reasons, including the higher cost of energy production, rising population, and growing wage disparity.

We know that in the real world, a jet airplane cannot rise ever-higher. Instead, at some point, the airplane hits what has been called its “coffin corner.”

Figure 2. Diagram of Coffin Corner by Aleks Udris of Boldmethod. On the chart, Vs is the velocity; MMO is the Maximum Mach Number.

According to Aleks Udris, “The region is deadly. Get too slow, and you’ll stall the jet at high altitude. Get too fast, and you’ll exceed your critical mach number. The air over your wings will go supersonic, you’ll pitch down, the aircraft will accelerate, and your wings will fall off. Also bad.”

What Happens As Coffin Corner Limits Are Reached in the Economic World?

What do world leaders do, as the world economy hits limits? One temptation is for the world leaders in Figure 1 to take their foot off the throttle that is operated by low interest rates and more debt, because they don’t seem to be providing very much benefit anymore. The leaders fear that if more debt is added at low interest rates, it risks creating “asset bubbles” that are easily disturbed if any little bump to the economy occurs. If a big bubble pops, there is a significant risk that the economy could fall down to a much lower level. This is like stalling the jet at high altitude.

World leaders can also use approaches that create situations more like “making the wings come off” the economy. These approaches involve favoring one group over another. For example, a government can give big tax breaks to businesses, but raise taxes on individual citizens. Businesses will ultimately be harmed by this approach, because they depend on individual citizens for their sales. The result is like tearing the wings off the airplane.

Another approach that would tear the wings off the economy involves actions by a different group of world leaders than those shown in Figure 1, namely the leaders from OPEC and Russia. These leaders have different video game screens and different game controllers. They can manipulate the world economy by reducing the supply of oil they provide. With this approach, they hope to increase the price of oil, and thus obtain a larger share of the world’s goods and services through higher tax revenue.

Raising the oil price would benefit oil exporters, but would make goods and services more expensive for oil importing countries. Ultimately, this approach would lead to recession in oil importing nations. The result would likely be worse than the 2008-2009 recession–another way to make the wings come off the economy.

Let’s look in a little more detail at what is happening, and what goes wrong:

[1] Energy plays a huge role in this game, because a growing supply of cheap-to-produce energy allows greater worker productivity.

It takes energy of various types to make the economy grow, because energy is needed whenever we move something, or heat something, or use electricity to operate something. We use energy products to leverage our human labor. For example, we use a truck to deliver a package, rather than walking and carrying the item in our hands. If fresh water is in short supply, we use energy to operate a desalination plant, and thus produce the fresh water we need.

It is generally workers who produce goods and services. If energy supply is inexpensive and readily available, it is easy for governments or businesses to create “tools” to make these workers more productive. These tools include such things as roads, vehicles, machines of all types, and even computers. If the quantity and capability of these tools are increasing, the labor of these workers is increasingly leveraged by the availability of these tools. This is what allows economic growth.

[2] The extent of world economic growth seems to depend primarily on how quickly total energy consumption is growing

If we look at historical economic growth, we see that the rate of growth of energy consumption seems to play a major role.

Figure 3. World GDP growth compared to world energy consumption growth for selected time periods since 1820. World real GDP trends for 1975 to present are based on USDA real GDP data in 2010$ for 1975 and subsequent. (Estimated by author for 2015.) GDP estimates for prior to 1975 are based on Maddison project updates as of 2013. Growth in the use of energy products is based on a combination of data from Appendix A data from Vaclav Smil’s Energy Transitions: History, Requirements and Prospects together with BP Statistical Review of World Energy 2015 for 1965 and subsequent.

The highest rates of world economic growth took place in the 1950-1965 period, and in the 1965-1975 period. These were both periods of very high growth in energy consumption. As we will see below, these were both periods when the price of oil was less than $20 per barrel, for almost the entire period.

If we look at economic growth over shorter periods, we also see a strong correlation between world economic growth and growth in energy consumption:

Figure 4. World growth in energy consumption vs. world GDP growth. Energy consumption from BP Statistical Review of World Energy, 2017. World GDP is GDP in US 2010$, as compiled by World Bank.

[3] On Figure 4 (above), the widening gap between GDP growth and energy consumption since 2013 could either represent (a) Much greater efficiency in using energy or (b) A problem in measuring true economic growth.

We can see true efficiency improvements in the 1975-1985 and the 1985-1995 periods shown on Figure 3. These were the periods when the world was truly trying to “get away from oil,” after a spike of high prices in the 1970s. Governments around the world were encouraging new smaller cars; electricity generation was being changed from oil to nuclear; home heating was being changed from oil to natural gas or electricity. The new furnaces installed were much more efficient than the old ones. Thus, during this period, efficiency/technology improvements were aiding economic growth to a greater extent than usual.

Now, in the period since 2013, much of the “low hanging fruit” has already been picked. We may still be finding some technology gains, but it seems likely that at least part of the problem is an “economic growth counting problem.” GDP looks like it is growing, but it is really very hollow economic growth. Governments invest in projects of essentially no value, and their investment is counted as GDP. For example, they invest in unneeded roads, in apartments that citizens cannot really afford, in educational institutions that do not produce graduates with wages that are sufficiently high to pay for education’s high cost, and in high-priced medical cures that are unaffordable by 99% of the population. Are these things truly contributions to GDP?

We also find businesses that look like they are growing, but in fact are taking on increasing amounts of debt as they sell off assets. This is not a sustainable model! We encounter energy companies that claim to be doing “sort of” alright, but their profits are so low that they need to cut back on new investment, and they need to borrow in order to have funds to pay dividends to shareholders. There is something seriously wrong with this growth!

[4] The economic “atmosphere” becomes thinner and thinner, when oil prices rise above an inflation-adjusted price of $20 per barrel.

Back in the time period prior to 1973, oil prices were generally below $20 per barrel, in inflation adjusted terms. Since then, prices have tended to be above this level.

Figure 5. Historical oil prices are Brent oil prices in 2016$ from BP Statistical Review of World Energy 2017; $20 per barrel is the maximum price level where oil is truly affordable; and $300 per barrel is the maximum price per barrel that the International Energy Agency seems to believe is possible for the world economy.

When oil (and other energy prices) were very low, companies could add tools to make workers more effective with little expenditure. As a result, the United States saw wages growing much more rapidly than inflation prior to 1968 (Figure 6).

Figure 6. Chart comparing income gains by the top 10% to income gains by the bottom 90% by economist Emmanuel Saez. Based on an analysis of IRS data, published in Forbes.

Once prices of oil started rising, prices of tools (broadly defined) rose. Governments and companies needed more debt to buy these tools. It became more of a burden to add capital goods of all kinds. Governments tried to raise GDP by adding debt, but to a significant extent they ended up with higher debt to GDP ratios rather than the rapid growth they were looking for (Figure 7).

Figure 7. Worldwide average inflation-adjusted annual growth rates in debt and GDP, for selected time periods. See post on debt for explanation of methodology.

The changes in the economy that allowed continued growth (more debt and more technology) tended to push the economy toward more wage disparity, in part because more technology required more training for some of the workers, but not for others. This allowed wages of the workers with special training to rise.

Furthermore, the need to repay debt with interest tended to funnel wealth toward the financial sector, and toward those within the economy who could afford to hold financial assets. These changes left less of the output of the economy for non-elite workers.

Economists never really understood what was happening. They had never thought through the important role that energy plays in the economy. Cheap energy is needed to create jobs. It is jobs, and the wages that those jobs pay, that tend to suffer when oil prices are too high (Figure 8). Thus, high-priced oil has a double impact on the economy:

  1. It makes goods of many kinds more expensive.
  2. It reduces job availability and wages.

Figure 8. Average wages in 2012$ compared to Brent oil price, also in 2012$. Average wages are total wages based on BEA data adjusted by the CPI-Urban, divided by total population. Thus, they reflect changes in the proportion of population employed as well as wage levels.

Logic would suggest that the economy cannot really operate on high-priced oil. Lower wages and higher prices do not peacefully coexist! We should expect high oil prices to be very unstable. Even if prices can reach a high level in response to a specific shortage or stimulus, we cannot expect these high prices to be maintained for a sustained period, without added stimulus. Unstable high prices are not likely to give rise to more oil production; they cannot be depended upon.

Economists have never understood this situation. Instead, they have made pronouncements that at some point in the future, they expect that oil would become scarce. Because of this scarcity, oil prices would rise. In their view, when oil prices rise, high-priced substitutes would suddenly become the best option available; somehow, the economy would become able to operate using these high-priced substitutes. (If energy products were not needed for labor productivity, this view might make some sense. In the real world, it does not.)

It never occurred to organizations such as the International Energy Association (IEA) that high oil prices might be a problem for the economy. The IEA has shown exhibits suggesting that oil prices could theoretically rise to $300 per barrel. Of course, at such an elevated price, there would be an almost unlimited amount of oil available to extract (Exhibit 9).

Figure 9. IEA Figure 1.4 from its World Energy Outlook 2015, showing how much oil can be produced at various price levels.

[5] The real enemies of continued economic growth are (a) diminishing returns with respect to oil and other energy production, (b) continued population growth, and (c) increasing wage and wealth disparity. 

We seem to be playing a video game where the players don’t understand who the real enemies are.

Diminishing returns with respect to oil and other energy production have to do with the cost of energy extraction rising ever-higher, as more resources are extracted. There are a lot of resources that we can “see,” but that we cannot economically extract, unless prices rise to very high levels.

Figure 9. My version of the resource triangle for oil. Note that oil shale is not the same as tight oil, found in shale formations. Oil shale is kerogen that must be processed at very high temperatures in order to produce oil. This is rarely done, because of the high processing cost. Tight oil is not on this chart. Tight oil probably would be above “onshore heavy oil; oil sands.” It still would disappear, if oil prices permanently fell to $20 per barrel or less.

Continued population growth is a problem because it is really “energy per capita” that matters. Each individual needs food, transportation, and housing. All of these things take energy. Many years ago, when most of the workers were farmers, it was necessary to create ever-smaller farms, as population rose. This clearly would lead to lower food production per farmer, unless some sort of technological breakthrough was taking place at the same time. Today, we have a parallel issue.

Increasing wage disparity tends to be associated with the rising use of technology. When most labor is hand labor, workers truly do “pay each other’s wages.” All wages can be fairly equal. With increased technology, some workers have specialized training; others do not. Some workers are supervisors; others are laborers. Unless the overall output of the economy is rising very rapidly, non-elite workers find themselves increasingly unable to afford the output of the economy. It is this falling “demand” (really affordability) that tends to pull an economy downward.

[6] High oil prices can be temporarily tolerated by an economy, if interest rates are lowered to make this arrangement work.

Clearly, lower interest rates make capital goods of all kinds more affordable to both businesses and individual workers. If we look back at the period since 1981, we see a long period of falling interest rates, acting to stimulate the economy.

When oil prices exceeded $20 per barrel, the economy did not collapse immediately. In “normal” times, lowering interest rates was sufficient stimulus to keep the economy growing (Figure 4).

Figure 10. Ten-year treasuries through Nov. 17, 2017. Chart produced by FRED.

When there is a very big drop in oil prices (as in 2008, related to falling debt levels), then Quantitative Easing (QE) has been helpful (Figure 11). The US began its program of QE in late 2008, when oil prices were near their low point. There were three phases of the US’s QE. The US discontinued the third phase in late 2014, just as oil prices started to slide again.

Figure 11. Monthly Brent oil prices with dates of US beginning and ending QE.

[7] It is quite possible for a disconnect to occur between (a) the cost of oil extraction, and (b) the selling price of oil.

Oil that costs more than $20 per barrel is never very affordable by the economy. It really needs continual stimulus to keep prices at an elevated level. Once debt growth falls too low, the balance between the supply and demand for oil is settled in the direction of the amount of goods and services made with oil that non-elite workers can afford. Prices fall below the cost of production. This seems to be what has happened since 2014.

[8] In fact, since 2014, the selling prices of oil, natural gas, and coal have all fallen below the cost of extraction.

Figure 12. Price per ton of oil equivalent, based on comparative prices for oil, natural gas, and coal given in BP Statistical Review of World Energy. Not inflation adjusted.

It is popular to think that the reason why oil prices are too low is because of overproduction by the United States or Saudi Arabia. When a person stops to realize that essentially the same situation arises for all three fossil fuels, a person begins to understand that there likely is an affordability issue underlying the low prices for all three fuels. The affordability issue, of course, arises because energy supply is not rising quickly enough because (at over $20 per barrel), it is too expensive to be truly affordable. The “atmosphere is too thin” at today’s high cost of energy extraction.

9. Coal production seems to have “peaked” because at today’s low prices, few mines find the extraction of coal profitable.

It is popular in “Peak Oil” circles to believe as the economists do: oil and other energy prices can rise endlessly, because of growing “demand.” Economists have never stopped to think that at any given price, there is an affordability issue for customers. If prices drop too low, there is a profitability issue for those operating extraction facilities.

If we look at the situation with coal, we see a situation where peak production seems to have been reached because of low prices. China has closed down mines because falling prices have made mines that were previously profitable, unprofitable (Figure 13). Coal is the lowest-cost fuel; if it cannot be mined profitably, the world economy has a problem.

Figure 13. China’s energy production, based on data from BP Statistical Review of World Energy, 2017.

In fact, it appears as though we have reached peak coal on a worldwide basis, as a result of low prices (Figure 14). It is hard to see any major production area that can grow substantially in the future, without much higher prices.

Figure 14. World coal production, based on BP Statistical Review of World Energy Data. (For 1965-1980, consumption is substituted for production, because only consumption is given, and imports/exports are likely small.

[10] The world economy needs to be able to keep repaying debt with interest. If world economic growth slows too much, this will not be possible. 

We may already be reaching a “too slow growth limit.” Below this growth limit, it becomes impossible to repay debt with interest, especially if interest rates rise. We may already be reaching this point, based on the lack of growth in energy consumption per capita shown in Figure 15. (Also, as noted in Item [3], it seems quite possible that recent GDP growth indications are overstated.)

Figure 15. Average energy prices (averaging oil, coal, and natural gas) versus the total quantity of energy products consumed per capita, based on BP energy consumption data and UN population data. (Prices have not been inflation adjusted.)

Figure 15 suggests that affordability and price go together. When the world economy is growing rapidly, energy prices tend to rise (as does energy consumption). When energy consumption per capita falls, it is a sign that the world economy is not doing well.

One of the things that confuses matters is the very different economic growth results for different parts of the world. If oil prices are low, this improves economic growth prospects from the point of oil importers, such as the United States and China. This is what our video game players are looking at, not the results for the world as a whole. It is oil exporters, such as Venezuela and Saudi Arabia, who are having problems.

If we look at world news, Venezuela may collapse because of low oil prices. Saudi Arabia has found it necessary to take on debt, and has undergone regime change, at least partly related to low oil prices. Norway is proposing that its oil and gas fund no longer invest in oil and gas companies, because it expects that there is a significant chance the oil price will not rise high enough to bring companies back to adequate profitability.

[11] The whole “game” has been confused by a lot of not-quite-correct pronouncements from academic circles.

A lot of well-meaning people have tried to solve our energy problems, but haven’t gotten the story right.

Economists have gotten the story pretty much 100% wrong. Energy is very important for the economy. Furthermore, energy prices don’t rise endlessly.

Peak Oilers have confused matters by talking about oil, coal and natural gas being determined by the amount of technically recoverable resources in the ground. This might be true if energy prices could rise endlessly, but clearly they cannot. By following the wrong views of economists, Peak Oilers have led world leaders to believe that far more resources are available to be extracted than really is the case.

People who call themselves Biophysical Economists haven’t really gotten the story correct either. The Biophysical Economists realized that there was a need for a measure for diminishing returns. They put together a measure which they called Energy Returned on Energy Invested. The measure, unfortunately, only “sort of” works. It gives a lot of wrong answers. It does not suggest that oil prices above $20 per barrel are a problem. It also does not suggest that substitutes for oil that are priced above $20 per barrel are a problem. It tends to give a lot of “false positives” when it comes to the question of whether renewables can be substituted for fossil fuels. It seems to suggest that a particular ratio is important, when it is really the total quantity of an energy product available at a very low price that is important.

I should not pick on the Biophysical Economists. There are many others with academic credentials who produce metrics that really aren’t very helpful. Energy payback time is not a very helpful metric, especially from the point of view of deciding whether or not to use a particular device. It is not the energy that the economy must pay back; it is the full cost of manufacturing the device that needs to be recovered, including human labor costs and taxes. In some applications, the cost of mitigating intermittency may also need to be considered.

Even the standard Levelized Cost of Energy calculations can give misleading indications, if they are used on intermittent renewables without taking into account the cost of mitigating the intermittency.


With all of these issues, it is not surprising that world leaders have difficulty playing the energy and economy game. In fact, it is hard to see any winning strategy.

One of the issues that makes the game impossible to win is the fact that all sides must win. A solution that cuts out the oil exporters is a problem for an economy dependent on oil. Any solution that cuts out the workers is a problem, partly because businesses need workers as consumers, and partly because governments need workers as taxpayers.

The reason I have not included any discussion of renewables is because at this point in time, we do not have any renewables that are sufficiently inexpensive and sufficiently scalable to represent a solution.


About Gail Tverberg

My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
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2,300 Responses to A Video Game Analogy to Our Energy Predicament

  1. Fast Eddy says:

    Understanding Bitcoin…

    You need to own Bitcoin because it is replacing CB fiat cash

    Wow Bitcoin is headed towards 20k!

    I just made over 20x my investment.

    I think I will take half of it off the table — convert it to CB money — and buy a house.

    Bitcoin is pointless. It is entirely fake. There is nothing backing it. It is no different than me making Origami flowers… I will ONLY make so many of these…. and they are valuable – they will replace fiat currency …. you need to own my flowers or you will be left out of the future

    • Rendar says:

      Will Bitcoin mining help prolong BAU?

      “Mining Bitcoins is like finding solutions to complicated math problems that become progressively more difficult. Coins are awarded to computers that verify transactions with an algorithm that gets more complex over time. In the early days of the currency in 2009 — with few computers, few transactions, and a price of $2 per coin — this was something you could do on your home computer.

      Now with a global market cap of more than $167 billion, it requires specialized hardware called Application Specific Integrated Circuit miners, and mining operations now use tens of thousands of these power-hungry devices in expansive warehouses to extract more coins.

      As a result, the largest mining operations are springing up in parts of the world with cheap electricity, like China. It also means Bitcoin mining is a growing contributor to climate change.

      A study from the University of Cambridge earlier this year found that 58 percent of Bitcoin mining comes from China, describing ‘an arms race amongst miners to use the cheapest energy sources and the most efficient equipment to keep operators profitable.’ Cheap power often means dirty power, and in China, miners draw on low-cost coal and hydroelectric generators. De Vries analyzed one mine in China whose carbon footprint was ‘simply shocking,’ emitting carbon dioxide at the same rate as a Boeing 747.”


      • Fast Eddy says:

        Good way to prop up energy prices…

        And those who own the coins would be spending some of the gains — good for GDP.

    • Davidin100millionbilliontrillionzillionyears says:

      my newest prediction for 2018…

      Bitcoin will rise to $1 million…

      you heard it here first!

      warning: I’ve been wrong before!

      disclaimer: this is not financial advice… please consult your financial professional… Bitcoin is a registered trademark of Hopium Inc… Bitcoin price could go to zero.

      • Trousers says:

        Escalators go down as well as up. Your house maybe at risk, if you leave the doors and windows open.

    • zenny says:

      It worked for me…the funny part was in the early days I was offering them for free to geeks and my free time on how to play….kinda like a hobby…
      Lets just say I have paid moar tax on sales than my family ever did on everything combined.
      Lets not forget they were almost free.

  2. Artleads says:


    “These studies consider intuition and analytical thought as opposed systems, and while this is frequently applicable, previous research has found that in some people these two modes of thought co-exist to a high degree and are associated with supernatural beliefs.”
    Someone recently posted on the relationship of beauty to what was found over eons to be good for our survival. I wonder if the same can be said about the sense of the sacred?

    I don’t say that ether of these links are the best on the subject, but they are short and suggestive of a need to look further.

    Our crisis today lies with energy, about which TPTB (the powers that be) are silent. You have to come to OFW () to hear the subject discussed. If the sacred, like beauty, indicates what serves us best, and if a low-energy future is all we can foresee, then might we grow to worship the non expenditure of energy? If so, we would need to see as sacred stasis and inertia regarding change to the visual environment. We wouldn’t demolish buildings, even if they could be deemed “ugly.” John Ruskin’s mantra that we have no right to destroy what was built by others before us, and thus belonged to them and not to us, would therefore be adhered to in practice. No demolition of anything. No cutting of trees. No scraping away of topsoil.

    So now you have less to worry about and your path is clearer. If you’re not going to remove or subtract anything from your environment, then you can focus your energies where they need to be focused: You can hone in on how to add new things without destroying the old. That will require a considerable amount of attention and concentration. For you must not only not destroy anything in material, physical terms; you must not destroy anything in sacred visual terms. Among many other considerations, that will include building on piers, building at modest size, camouflaging structures in such ways as hiding them behind existing ones or behind trees…

    So, by default, you almost have the makings of a land use plan. You do not subtract from anything that exists; you add more things to it, and in such a way that it cannot be seen. The alternative would be akin to visiting strangers and bumping into things and rearranging their furniture. Good manners in visits requires restraint, and good manners are required in new development.

    • Could you look at the links again? They don’t work for me.

      • Artleads says:

        I got these to open. If they still don’t work for you I’ll keep looking for better links.

        Cinema Modeoff
        The Beauty of Islamic Art is based upon Sacred Geometry

        • Artleads says:

          Frustrating. The second link didn’t open here at all. I’m just saying that once something gets built–wise and ‘beautiful” or not–it is sacred in some way that has to do with energy. Will keep working on it.

          • When you have a link to a site open, make certain that you copy the whole link, and paste it into your comment.

          • xabier says:

            ‘Baraka.’ Important concept in this respect. I would like to see your principles followed by those who are current;y pouring concrete everywhere here!

        • Thanks! This link works. Yes, Islamic arctic is based on geometric patterns. It is beautiful, just as the patterns we see in nature are often beautiful.

          Math, art, and music are all closely related. Physics is related to these things as well. Somehow, there is an order to the universe that is amazing.

        • Artleads says:

          I’ll have to return to the drawing board to figure this out. I was trying to bring intuition, religion, the sacred and analysis into relationship, but it’s still elusive. The part of it I’ll stick with–it’s the intuitive part that I was trying to combine with energy–has to do with land use planning.

          Any given scene in a built environment supports a social system.

          If you disrupt the scene, you disrupt the social system, in physical and emotional terms.

          The social system reflects energy flow of a certain type, along with its emotional corollaries.

          That energy flow is too complex and subtle to grasp intellectually.

          But the sense of the sacred, based on aesthetic intuition, can make physical disruption jarring and offensive. It realizes that subtle flows of energy are being disorganized and subjected to entropy.

          Ergo, it concludes that the purely intellectual calculation based on arbitrary rules of development are grossly destructive, and can only lead to deteriorated energy and social situation.

          But since aesthetic excellence tells you how to add new things without disturbing the old (to a significant extent anyhow), you can have a lot of new development as long as it is nuanced and camouflaged.

          • xabier says:

            A hideous, monolithic, building has just been completed by the university here to house thousands of anticipated Chinese graduate tech students, in ‘Silicon Valley UK.’

            The architects actually had the nerve to say they wouldn’t be planting any screens of trees, or landscaping, as it would ‘be so beautiful people would want to look at it.’ !!

            A local called it ‘a slum of the future.’

            Much more accurate, and for now even when new it is depressing to look at.

            It is one of the things that – occasionally – make me wish for the End.

            • Artleads says:

              “A hideous, monolithic, building has just been completed by the university here to house thousands of anticipated Chinese graduate tech students, in ‘Silicon Valley UK.’”

              Was it built with Chinese financing?

              “The architects actually had the nerve to say they wouldn’t be planting any screens of trees, or landscaping, as it would ‘be so beautiful people would want to look at it.’ !!”

              That’s the part I try to tease away from the practical aspect of housing bodies (or even of perpetuating BAU). What’s happening here is the indulgence in the RELIGION of modernity. There is no reason to have this monolith, or to have it prominently displayed other than to celebrate progress and modernity. Building something less spectacular could support the trucking, cement, construction industries in a different way perhaps (although it might not).

              “It is one of the things that – occasionally – make me wish for the End.”

              Yes, in a strange way, The End is like money in the bank. It provides some assurance.

  3. Baby Doomer says:

    Limits to Economic Growth? Lecture given at Nottingham University on 28th Nov 2017.

    • This talk is reasonably good. Brian Davey brings together some of the pieces of the predicament we are in. I don’t think he realizes that the economy has to grow, but he does see that the potential solutions we have been looking at are a long way from working. Intermittency adds a huge cost, if we want to use wind and solar, for example. He also brings up the point of affordability, which is something most have missed.

      The other thing he is missing is that there is physics reason behind what he is seeing (including the growing wage disparity). He is taking steps in the right direction, but isn’t yet to the full story of where we are.

  4. Baby Doomer says:

    Will the US Really Experience a Violent Upheaval in 2020?

    “My model suggests that the next [peak in violence] will be worse than the one in 1970 because demographic variables such as wages, standards of living and a number of measures of intra-elite confrontation are all much worse this time,” said Peter Turchin, an ecologist, evolutionary biologist and mathematician at the University of Connecticut.


    • Peter Turchin doesn’t understand the role that energy plays in this, and that there is a physics problem underlying some of the patterns he is seeing.

      We have a problem with all of our academic areas being too isolated. Each researcher develops a theory, without understanding how the other areas fit in.

      • xabier says:

        It’s the best way to obtain grants and a reputation in academia. Whereas ‘Collapse Studies’ needs inspired generalists.

      • Greg Machala says:

        “We have a problem with all of our academic areas being too isolated.” – Exactly. I totally agree. Too many “experts” that live in a vacuum.

  5. Davidin100millionbilliontrillionzillionyears says:

    so 2018 and 2019 are looking good…

  6. jerry says:

    BAU the end of? Not if Norway has any say…

    This is a great day for the Kingdom of Norway and the region of northern Norway,” a jubilant Oil and Energy Minister Terje Søviknes said.
    Statoil executive vice president Margareth Øvrum called the Johan Castberg project a “central part of the future development” of Artic oil projects, claiming it will “create substantial value and spinoffs for Norway.”
    Hammerfest vice mayor Marianne Sivertsen Næss said the project was “extremely positive,” stressing its weight for the entire region. At present, Hammerfest already serves as the base for the Goliat project, Norway’s first oil drilling project in the Arctic.

    ​Kjell Giæver, the director of Petro Arctic, a regional network of oil and gas industry suppliers, went so far as to say that the project puts northern Norway on the map as the country’s “gold coast.”


  7. A Real Black Person says:

    It gets better. Elon Musk has a brother who’s also an entrepreneur and who also doesn’t understand the laws of Physics that prevent “green” and organic things from scaling up.

    Organic food…real organic food is a much more inefficient way of growing food.
    Inefficiency cannot scale.

    Things that cannot scale can not turn into a large multinational businesses that makes money.

    I’m of two world about people like this. He is either “running game” or he really isn’t very bright.
    My money is on the “not very bright but had a lot of people telling him that he was gifted simply because he was born into money”

  8. psile says:

    The Walmart of Music…reaches junk bond status.

    Guitar Center Debt Default “Imminent” – Won’t Survive 2018?

    …maybe they’ll survive by trading crypto?

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Makes sense…. if your enterprise is failing … fire sale all your stock… take call your operating cash…. have your staff turn tricks in the washroom with customers and split the take….

      And buy Bitcoin…

      You never know…………

    • Jesse James says:

      a shame….they hosted a great drum-off competition every year. My son competed in it.

  9. Fast Eddy says:



    How amusing …. the ship will no doubt ply the waters from the coal yards — to the power plant — which will burn the coal — and charge the ship — so it can cruise back to the coal yards …..

    Otherwise known as an endless circle jerk….

    I can’t find any mention of costs on my google searches….

    • Fast Eddy says:

      “This kind of ship takes into consideration the harmony between humans and nature and can protect water quality and marine life, and should be copied by other ships sailing on local rivers,” says Chinese environmentalist Wang Yongchen’

      Hey…. wait a minute…..

      • xabier says:

        We need an image of a hairy man floating on a log, pushing along with a branch, – that’s eco-friendly, sort of. 🙂

      • Artleads says:

        I suppose anything beside treading water and praying for a ship (of any kind) to rescue you is wishful thinking.

    • i1 says:

      Humans were carbon liberators. End of story.

      • The Second Coming says:

        Good point i1 and liberators for many other combinations as well! Perhaps that is natures plan, adding complexity for the next stage of evolution. Humans providing the ingredients for the next leap toward of intelligent life! Hard to conceive what it will look like or attain?
        One thing is the CO2 and other GHG has averted another ice age. Perhaps the cosmic intelligence will pull the plug on the human consumptionians party at the appropriate
        The folks I come in contact do not have a clue on our predicament, nor do they care, except one ….he’s response…”They HAVE to come up with something!”
        So, my response is if they don’t, I’ll just won’t get a traditional retirement…can’t complain too much about that….

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Carbon is good for plants…. more plants = more fossil fuels (in hundreds of millions of years)…. so maybe we will have a another run at this some day….

        A billion years goes by in a flash …. for Mother.

    • I am sure that the purpose of building these electric ships is to use some of China’s coal, and to have a product other countries may choose to buy. Emissions saving is not high on the list.

    • Greg Machala says:

      An electric ship hauling coal. Oh the irony. And I thought a circular economy was impossible. We can haul coal to make electricity to haul more coal. HAHAHAHA!!!!!

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