2021: More troubles likely

Most people expect that the economy of 2021 will be an improvement from 2020. I don’t think so. Perhaps COVID-19 will be somewhat better, but other aspects of the economy will likely be worse.

Back in November 2020, I showed a chart illustrating the path that energy consumption seems to be on. The sharp downturn in energy consumption has occurred partly because the cost of oil, gas and coal production tends to rise, since the portion that is least expensive to extract and ship tends to be removed first.

At the same time, prices that energy producers are able to charge their customers don’t rise enough to compensate for their higher costs. Ultimate customers are ordinary wage earners, and their wages are not escalating as rapidly as fossil fuel production and delivery costs. It is the low selling price of fossil fuels, relative to the rising cost of production, that causes a collapse in the production of fossil fuels. This is the crisis we are now facing.

Figure 1. Estimate by Gail Tverberg of World Energy Consumption from 1820 to 2050. Amounts for earliest years based on estimates in Vaclav Smil’s book Energy Transitions: History, Requirements and Prospects and BP’s 2020 Statistical Review of World Energy for the years 1965 to 2019. Energy consumption for 2020 is estimated to be 5% below that for 2019. Energy for years after 2020 is assumed to fall by 6.6% per year, so that the amount reaches a level similar to renewables only by 2050. Amounts shown include more use of local energy products (wood and animal dung) than BP includes.

With lower energy consumption, many things tend to go wrong at once: The rich get richer while the poor get poorer. Protests and uprisings become more common. The poorer citizens and those already in poor health become more vulnerable to communicable diseases. Governments feel a need to control their populations, partly to keep down protests and partly to prevent the further spread of disease.

If we look at the situation shown on Figure 1 on a per capita basis, the graph doesn’t look quite as steep, because lower energy consumption tends to bring down population. This reduction in population can come from many different causes, including illnesses, fewer babies born, less access to medical care, inadequate clean water and starvation.

Figure 2. Amounts shown in Figure 1, divided by population estimates by Angus Maddison for earliest years and by 2019 United Nations population estimates for years to 2020. Future population estimated to be falling half as quickly as energy supply is falling in Figure 1. World population drops to 2.8 billion by 2050.

What Is Ahead for 2021?

In many ways, it is good that we really don’t know what is ahead for 2021. All aspects of GDP production require energy consumption. A huge drop in energy consumption is likely to mean disruption in the world economy of varying types for many years to come. If the situation is likely to be bad, many of us don’t really want to know how bad.

We know that many civilizations have had the same problem that the world does today. It usually goes by the name “Collapse” or “Overshoot and Collapse.” The problem is that the population becomes too large for the resource base. At the same time, available resources may degrade (soils erode or lose fertility, mines deplete, fossil fuels become harder to extract). Eventually, the economy becomes so weakened that any minor disturbance – attack from an outside army, or shift in weather patterns, or communicable disease that raises the death rate a bit – threatens to bring down the whole system. I see our current economic problem as much more of an energy problem than a COVID-19 problem.

We know that when earlier civilizations collapsed, the downfall tended not to happen all at once. Based on an analysis by Peter Turchin and Sergey Nefedov in their book, Secular Cycles, economies tended to first hit a period of stagflation, for perhaps 40 or 50 years. In a way, today’s economy has been in a period of stagflation since the 1970s, when it became apparent that oil was becoming more difficult to extract. To hide the problem, increasing debt was issued at ever-lower interest rates.

According to Turchin and Nefedov, the stagflation stage eventually moves into a steeper “crisis” period, marked by overturned governments, debt defaults, and falling population. In the examples analyzed by Turchin and Nefedov, this crisis portion of the cycle took 20 to 50 years. It seems to me that the world economy reached the beginning of the crisis period in 2020 when lockdowns in response to the novel coronavirus pushed the weakened world economy down further.

The examples examined by Turchin and Nefedov occurred in the time period before fossil fuels were widely used. It may very well be that the current collapse takes place more rapidly than those in the past, because of dependency on international supply lines and an international banking system. The world economy is also very dependent on electricity–something that may not last. Thus, there seems to be a chance that the crisis phase may last a shorter length of time than 20 to 50 years. It likely won’t last only a year or two, however. The economy can be expected to fall apart, but somewhat slowly. The big questions are, “How slowly?” “Can some parts continue for years, while others disappear quickly?”

Some Kinds of Things to Expect in 2021 (and beyond)

[1] More overturned governments and attempts at overturned governments.

With increasing wage disparity, there tend to be more and more unhappy workers at the bottom end of the wage distribution. At the same time, there are likely to be people who are unhappy with the need for high taxes to try to fix the problems of the people at the bottom end of the wage distribution. Either of these groups can attempt to overturn their government if the government’s handling of current problems is not to the group’s liking.

[2] More debt defaults.

During the stagflation period that the world economy has been through, more and more debt has been added at ever-lower interest rates. Much of this huge amount of debt relates to property that is no longer of much use (airplanes without passengers; office buildings that are no longer needed because people now work at home; restaurants without enough patrons; factories without enough orders). Governments will try to avoid defaults as long as possible, but eventually, the unreasonableness of this situation will prevail. The impact of defaults can be expected to affect many parts of the economy, including banks, insurance companies and pension plans.

[3] Extraordinarily slow progress in defeating COVID-19.

There seems to be a significant chance that COVID-19 is lab-made. In fact, the many variations of COVID-19 may also be lab made. Researchers around the world have been studying “Gain of Function” in viruses for more than 20 years, allowing the researchers to “tweak” viruses in whatever way they desire. There seem to be several variations on the original virus now. A suicidal/homicidal researcher could decide to “take out” as many other people as possible, by creating yet another variation on COVID-19.

To make matters worse, immunity to coronaviruses in general doesn’t seem to be very long lasting. According to an October 2020 article, 35-year study hints that coronavirus immunity doesn’t last long. Analyzing other coronaviruses, it concluded that immunity tends to disappear quite quickly, leading to an annual cycle of illnesses such as colds. There seems to be a substantial chance that COVID-19 will return on an annual basis. If vaccines generate a similar immunity pattern, we will be facing an issue of needing new vaccines every year, as we do with the flu.

[4] Cutbacks on education of many kinds.

Many people getting advanced degrees find that the time and expense did not lead to an adequate financial reward afterwards. At the same time, universities find that there are not many grants to support faculty, outside of the STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering and Math) fields. With this combination of problems, universities with limited budgets make the financial decision to reduce or eliminate programs with reduced student interest and no outside funding.

At the same time, if local school districts find themselves short of funds, they may choose to use distance learning, simply to save money. This type of cutback could affect grade school children, especially in poor areas.

[5] Increasing loss of the top layers of governments.

It takes money/energy to support extra layers of government. The UK is now completely out of the European Union. We can expect to see more changes of this type. The UK may dissolve into smaller regions. Other parts of the EU may leave. This problem could affect many countries around the world, such as China or countries of the Middle East.

[6] Less globalization; more competition among countries.

Every country is struggling with the problem of not enough jobs that pay well. This is really an energy-related problem. Instead of co-operating, countries will tend to increasingly compete, in the hope that their country can somehow get a larger share of the higher-paying jobs. Tariffs will continue to be popular.

[7] More empty shelves in stores.

In 2020, we discovered that supply lines can break, making it impossible to purchase products a person expects. In fact, new governmental rules can have the same impact, for example, if a country bans travel to its country. We should expect more of this in 2021, and in the years ahead.

[8] More electrical outages, especially in locations where reliance on intermittent wind and solar for electricity is high.

In most places in the world, oil products were available before electricity. On the way down, we should expect to see the reverse of this pattern: Electricity will disappear first because it is hardest to maintain a constant supply. Oil will be available, at least as long as is electricity.

There is a popular belief that we will “run out of oil,” and that renewable electricity can be a solution. I do not think that intermittent electricity can be a solution for anything. It works poorly. At most, it acts as a temporary extender to fossil fuel-provided electricity.

[9] Possible hyperinflation, as countries issue more and more debt and no longer trust each other.

I often say that I expect oil and energy prices to stay low, but this doesn’t really hold if many countries around the world issue more and more government debt as a way to try to keep businesses from failing, debt from defaulting, and stock market prices inflated. There is a danger that all prices will inflate, and that sellers of products will no longer accept the hyperinflated currency that countries around the world are trying to provide.

My concern is that international trade will break down to a significant extent as hyperinflation of all currencies becomes a problem. The higher prices of oil and other energy products won’t really lead to any more production because prices of all goods and services will be inflating at the same time; fossil fuel producers will not get any special benefit from these higher prices.

If a significant loss of trade occurs, there will be even more empty shelves because there is very little any one country can make on its own. Without adequate goods, population loss may be very high.

[10] New ways of countries trying to fight with each other.

When there are not enough resources to go around, historically, wars have been fought. I expect wars will continue to be fought, but the approaches will “look different” than in the past. They may involve tariffs on imported goods. They may involve the use of laboratory-made viruses. They may involve attacking the internet of another country, or its electrical distribution system. There may be no officially declared war. Strange things may simply take place that no one understands, without realizing that the country is being attacked.


We seem to be headed for very bumpy waters in the years ahead, including 2021. Our real problem is an energy problem that we do not have a solution for.

About Gail Tverberg

My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
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3,373 Responses to 2021: More troubles likely

  1. Artleads says:


    Not much happening in the world – our mainstream media has nothing to say.
    But what’s this I hear?
    Meh, not much happening.
    1. The entire Netherlands government has resigned.
    2. Angela Merkel steps down.
    3. Estonia Prime Minister missing.
    4. Italian government has collapsed.
    5. Russia’s government has resigned, Putin plans huge constitutional shake-up
    6. The declass on Obama gate
    7. DC on lockdown. 20k soldiers Thursday 25 Friday. I told you 40-50k if you count non military by 20th.
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    Russian government resigns as Vladimir Putin plans future

    • There certainly seem to be a lot of government related conflict. I am sure there would be some more, if a person were to look outside of the US and Europe and Russia.

      Some of these seem to have happened after scandals were revealed. Angela Merkel had announced a couple of years ago that should would not be running for reelection now.

      I expect that businesses are experiencing above average shake ups as well.

    • avocado says:

      Hey not so fast. The story about Russia is a year old, and it didn’t really changed anything

      And the Netherland’s guy is supposed to regain control, according to polls

      Generalizations doesen’t help, unless they are truly based in facts

    • avocado says:

      Rutte is sypposed to backed by two thirds of the Dutchs


      And Merkel is just retiring after so many years

      And I believe the US has nothing to fear upon the change of government, I tend to believe nothing will happen. If you are to become third world… I tell you, it’s not the end of the worl

      • It is the end of the world for most native-born Americans since they never lived under a regime which had to dance to someone else’s tunes.

      • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

        nothing much will happen in the short run with the D party in total control of US politics.

        but I agree with what some other observers have said, that the Ds will accelerate the decline.

        by 2030, the US will be hovering above a third world level.

        by 2040 it should arrive.

        for now (my deepest apologies, but I’m sensing it) it is bAU tonight, baby!

        • VFatalis says:

          Why do I have the strong feeling that your timeline is totally off ? The situation is worsening way faster than that… Not much time left before strong decline

          • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

            but I’m the OFW inhouse resident quasi optimist.

            I like throwing out a little bit of 2030 and 2040 stuff now and then, and any pushback is quite acceptable.

        • Adam says:

          I used to agree with you that BAU seemed to hold together. I am not yet starving but I feel that BAU has gone bye bye.

          • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

            sorry to hear that.

            it’s unequal and uneven, where today millions ARE starving, and every day there must be thousands who fall away from bAU, and I’m still okay.

            life is not fair.

            IC is hanging by a thread, but I think The Core holds up until next decade.

            but it’s just a guess.

  2. JoJo says:

    I would sure like to see a map of where 5g is using high band. I would measure gauss fields where I live but meters above 8 gig are unobtanium. Since we are subject to EMF without our consent it would at least be nice to know the frequency and strength of the EMF field that you are subject to.

    Funny things happen once you get into the gig range. These frequency polarity are moving so fast that basically no o scope can see the sine wave. The wave may in fact not be sinusoidal but spiked. Spiked waves have been theorized to effect health more negatively than sinusoidal waves. The tinyest bit of inductance changes the path of the energy once you hit gigahertz. . This makes measuring the energy in these frequencies problematic.

    It looks like most of the high band in the USA is in the 27 gig range. 5g is said to use frequencies up to 300 gig which is a frequency 50 billion times greater than normal grid frequency at point of use.

    These frequencies are not just more of the same.

    I would just like to see the frequencies and strength of fields in a map of the USA.. Is that unreasonable? Perhaps. Measuring the strength of EMF fields at 27 gigahertz may not be a easy proposition. That gauss meter heads are not available at above 8 gig may be because there has been virtually no industrial or communication usage of frequencies this high until 5g was implemented. If your meter head is off by a micro henry of inductance it wont be accurate. Sweat from a hand could do that easily.


  3. There is good news about the use of Ivermectin in the US. (A reader sent me an email about this.)

    Ivermectin is Now a Therapeutic Option for Doctors & Prescribers!


    Jan 14, 2021 – One week after Dr. Paul Marik and Dr. Pierre Kory – founding members of the Front Line Covid-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC) – along with Dr. Andrew Hill, researcher and consultant to the World Health Organization (WHO), presented their data before the NIH Treatment Guidelines Panel, the NIH has upgraded their recommen­da­tion and now considers Ivermectin an option for use in COVID-19.

    Their recommendation has now been upgraded to the same level as those for widely used monoclonal antibodies & convalescent plasma, which is a “neither for nor against” recommen­da­tion.

    The significance of this change is that the NIH has decided to no longer recommend against the use of ivermectin in the treatment of COVID-19 by the nation’s health care providers. A consequence of this change is that ivermectin has now been made a clear therapeutic option for patients.

    The website includes a link showing recommended doses, both for prophylaxis for high risk individuals and for early outpatient treatment.

    The website https://covid19criticalcare.com includes much other information about Ivermectin including many FAQ answers.

    It would be better to have a direct recommendation “for” ivermectin, but at this point, a recommendation of “neither for nor against” is a big step forward.

    • MM says:

      Actually I have beeen censored for posting this link:
      in a german forum just 10 days ago

      “I know what you did last summer”

      • The YT link you gave is definitely not radical. We can hope the situation is changing quickly.

        Perhaps I should have looked further for links, to make certain that what the site https://covid19criticalcare.com was saying was 100% true. I presume it is. It sounded as though the site was still working on the translations of the treatment protocols into other languages.

        It is hard to first get a picture of what treatment really works (1 day, 5 day, or what, for example) without quite a few studies. It seems like allowing the treatment, without explicitly recommending it, is a reasonable first step, until all of the details get sorted out.

    • avocado says:

      It’s tragicomic. Elites want to control/kill hoi polloi, but of course many of them don’t agree. It’s easy ro believe Elites have all power and information, and that they can plan things as they wish. But we truly are in unchartered waters, even for them at some point (they can’t know if an existing medicine, of which there are thousands, will beat their bugs, but there surely are more issues). Of course, they can unleash more bugs, wonder how many they have in stock, or modify the existing ones. But the problem remains, as oilways: the price of oil

      • MM says:

        As Naomi Klein says:
        “Shock strategy might be used for the existing structures as well as against them because the sytem itself is in a chaotic stae of finding a new equilibrium.”
        The point “against them” has beeen overlooked by all the reviewers of her book
        In principle this is the best time for a revolution in any way.

        They do not know much miore than we know. The next second is unknown.

        Stand up and revolt !

        • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

          sit down on the couch with a laptop online and…

          ? !

        • Artleads says:

          – Stand up and revolt !

          – sit down on the couch with a laptop online and…

          ? !

          – Somewhere in between?

          I like MM’s reasoning, however. This could be the best time ever for a “revolt” of some sort (maybe that awful “reset” word is better than revolt), although a very quiet one might be best. We may need to look for slightly new patterns using the present “infrastructure.”

      • Either a high or low oil price brings down the system, so there is no real solution, from that point of view.

    • JoJo says:

      Without the couple thousand double blind studies showing ivermectins effectiveness twisting their arm we probably would never have seen ivermectin approved.

      Ill just wait on the vaccine until I see the top secret raw data in 22 thank you. And just who decided that the vaccine raw data should remain secret in opposition to best practice, peer review, and open source data in medicine that was the only thing that got ivermectin on the “ok” list?

  4. MM says:

    I highly recommend the “Climate Action Network” for a lot of green labeling BS.
    I just pick this:


    Well, yes, cleaning the seas yould create a lot of jobs but that is only true if claning is considered a financial transaction., If it is considered a thermodynamic sink, it will nver happen.
    But sounds good.Better than;
    “UK supermarket shelves will be empty in 6 months”

    Besides the CT of the great reset I must say that “We used bad pactice that resulted in huge profits but we can use better practice to produce even greater profits” is a bit questionable

  5. mm says:

    The security councelor (translation?) of Berlin claims that clan violence is increasing due to the fact that “locations for the drug market” are shut down..
    Refence: https://www.berliner-zeitung.de/mensch-metropole/bandenkrieg-zwischen-tschetschenen-und-arabischen-clans-eskaliert-li.117557?pid=true
    (sorry, German)

    We know since long time that clans and clan violence will grow in a state of decy.

    • Thanks for the link!

      When there is not enough of anything to go around (including jobs that pay well, and perhaps illegal drugs used by those who are “down on their luck”) there seems to be more conflict.

    • Art is pushing the story:

      “The lower-for-longer ruling paradigm has been accurate and useful since the oil-price collapse in 2014. What is happening now is different.”

      Maybe it is; maybe it isn’t.

      Maybe the impacts this time will be on wages or on debt, rather than (or in addition to) high prices.

  6. ssincoski says:

    Poland’s 2020 power demand down 2.3%, imports at new record


    I seem to recall something similar from last year.

  7. roc says:

    Trump was indeed chased away from Tweeter but officially the ATM boss would have copied everything and put it all back on his site:
    and this:
    the documents (in particular on UFOs, but not only) declassified by Trump :

  8. Rodster says:

    “Pfizer and Moderna adverse reaction reports escalating at an alarming rate”


    • I think that someone would need to look at these issues more carefully.

      Also, the concerns I would have about the vaccine would be more the long term effects. For example, in some people could they trigger very bad effects, when a person gets a slightly different version of the virus later? I know that this has been a problem with vaccines for the virus causing Dengue Fever. It seems to have been a problem with SARS-1 as well. SARS-2 (the current virus) is quite similar to SARS-1.

      As I understand it, these very bad reactions when a person gets a slightly different version of the virus later don’t occur for everyone. The problem is a subtle one that take a lot of testing to figure out. We wouldn’t know these things yet.

      • Rodster says:

        “I think that someone would need to look at these issues more carefully.”

        The main problem with that is the governments and media don’t want this kind of information getting out. Remember, when the UK trials for the vaccine were halted several times due to human guinea pigs developing serious side effects such as a spinal illnesses. When asked Johnson & Johnson refused to acknowledge it only saying it wanted to protect the patient’s privacy.


        But I believe there was another vaccine that had a similar problem in the UK. I want to say it was AstraZeneca where the trial was halted for similar reasons.

        These side effects are being swept under the rug so as not to “ALERT” rather than alarm the public because it’s bad for business and not risking people not wanting to take the vaccines.

        • Curt Kurschus says:

          It is not so much a matter of being bad for business as it is a matter of it being bad for society and government.

          People everywhere are fearful of the virus and the only antidote to that fear that governments can offer (fear that they themselves had a hand in fomenting though it would have arisen anyway considering the images that came out of China early on) is the hope for a cure in the form of a vaccine. Supporters of the vaccines have said that the vaccines are not cures but may help in reducing the risk of dying or developing serious negative health impacts from contracting the virus, but most people need to hold onto the hope for a cure so that life can return to normal with no lockdowns and no fear of a virus. Even though experts are telling us that we will still need to wear masks and continue with the social distancing.

          Although the news media should be looking more thoroughly into the negative aspects of the vaccines, journalists are strongly motivated to not look for such information because they are also seeking hope for themselves and their families just like everybody else.

          • Rodster says:

            “People everywhere are fearful of the virus and the only antidote to that fear that governments can offer”

            I’m not fearful, heck I don’t even wear a silly face diaper in public. With all of these cases of severe side effects it would be in the publics best interest to halt this vaccine. But thankfully the government has the publics best interest at heart so they’ll continue encouraging people to dose up on this “who the hell knows what’s really in it nd does it even work vaccine”.

            I watched a YT video yesterday where some nursing home patients were dying after receiving the vaccine. Are we allowed to call that murder whereby if they had not taken that poisonous concoction they would probably still be alive today?

      • Xabier says:

        The deputy editor of the British Medical Journal recently wrote a trenchant criticism of the Big Pharma companies for withholding the raw data from their very vaccine brief trials, until 2022 at the earliest.

        His main point was, without all the data what can we know about these vaccines?

        With only insufficient data, no informed consent is possible – an important point in international law and medical ethics.

        The BMJ is definitely not in the pockets of Bill Gates and is boldly questioning the official narrative, as far as they can, even publishing letters suggesting corruption and conflict of interest among the scientists advising the UK govt,

        I have noted that paid-for commenters have been trying to ridicule references to his article whenever it is cited on YT, etc.

        It has hit a raw nerve and a point of weakness in the whole fictitious Covid narrative.

        • MM says:

          Xabier, Thank you for this info. I also posted for a prvious issue:
          Can you please provide links for these claims:
          First the one above and the other one about the air pollution in the UK going up significantly despite lockdown

          Thank you

          • Xabier says:

            Sorry, I just read a hell of a lot and don’t bother with noting any links as I am just trying to get a grip on the general situation, note patterns, and move on: but if you go to the online BMJ you can find that stuff and others are citing it.

            As for the recent rise in pollution, it’s mostly based on personal experience. I suffered very badly from air pollution until the end of spring 2018, and then it got remarkably better – this corresponded to the decline of diesel vehicles on the roads and being sold.

            I hardly had a day of asthma in all that time and was fully fit again – to my relief as I feared my lungs were ruined!

            This autumn it came back in full force, which rather puzzled me: then I saw an article in The Guardian which stated that measurements showed a sharp rise in air pollution in greater London at that time.

            The air pollution here mostly drifts up from London and the south, and also comes from Cambridge itself. The motorway here is packed with delivery vehicles these days.

            This will undoubtedly kill many thousands of people: the old estimate was some 25k per annum in the UK alone, before the diesel decline.

            It causes symptoms very similar to Covid, too, quite different from normal asthma.

            • in the uk, posh houses are almost always on the west side of any town or city, the slums are on the east side

              that goes back 00s of years

              thats because the prevailing wind blows west to east.

              our ‘modern’ lifestyle has just made things infinitely worse

            • Xabier says:

              That’s true of London, certainly.

              My grandmother’s prosperous old London family ran inns, etc, in the West End of London, 1700-1900: if they had been in the East End they would not have been so well off.

              Cambridge ran north to south, as the higher ground was in the north.

              The west was boggy and that’s where they put the leper hospital which became my College, St John’s ,in the 16th century – cheap land bought by the mother of Henry VII. Trust royalty to have an eye for a deal.

              Today, here, all the polluted air comes from the east and the south – which is most of the time.

              And much more likely to kill me than faked Covid.

              Fun fact: they are now vaccinating the bewildered and trusting elderly in cathedrals here – to the sound of organ music:

              ‘Nearer my God to Thee…’ Amen, RIP.

        • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

          “His main point was, without all the data what can we know about these vaccines?”

          my main point would be that the raw data must be quite horrrible for them to want to repress it until 2022.

          • Xabier says:

            I am imagine that he would agree: but there are limits to what can be said in that publication -they have already gone very far.

            So, only the briefest human trials and most limited in scope; general release as an emergency measure; and keeping back the raw data from independent experts.

            Clearly, the 21st century will not see a high point in medical ethics……

            One must admire the few honest critics in the field, and their struggle to be heard, but it is evident that their well-reasoned points will not affect public policy in the slightest in most countries.

  9. Harry McGibbs says:

    “U.S. Supply Chains Disrupted by Millions Calling Out Sick:

    “Some manufacturers are reporting absenteeism rates as high as 25%… More than 1.9 million people missed work in December because of illness, according to Labor Department data, almost matching the 2 million record set in April.”


    • Harry McGibbs says:

      “Covid’s Mental Health Crisis Has Economic Consequences:

      “Fear of illness, strict lockdowns, isolation and unemployment weighs on the hearts and minds of people all across the globe.”


      • Rodster says:

        That’s precisely what happens when you continuously repeat a lie, eventually people will start to believe it.

      • Bobby says:

        Fear conditioning can become limbic and cyclical, but it’s not the only reason people prep for lockdowns, work from home or stay away from unnecessary social events if they can.

        Worries are not the only consequence of a pandemic.

        Lockdowns are enjoyable in fact. Within the context of family, WFH is liberating. An order online introvert paradise. Lockdown gives people the power to learn and imagine not just follow habitual preconditioning. (given, this is only possible with an income, electricity and IT).

        The locked down can begin to think about alternatives to the current system, improve their health (research Vitamin D or Keto diets for example) Spend time with those significant, this can be actually healthy.

        What makes you truly happy? A paycheque, job worries, getting or paying rent, the house, the current death pledge or waiting on your pension! Maybe it’s your savings lol..and how long do you want to worry about that? 24/7 In some ways these worries are relics of the consumer world, which is presently faltering.

        People who benefit from Top Down control systems (and psychopaths) don’t like lockdowns. (My CEO hates them) Lockdowns flatten the curve and may in fact work. in the case of New Zealand, lockdowns delayed spread of SARS Cov2 ( Strain 1,2,3,4…) Lockdowns also suppressed, but did not wreak the current economy.

        Eventually the virus strain goes through a population anyway, but we get buffer time to limit viral load.

        The results are we get over the virus in stages and the economy goes down. Is that so bad?

        It sucks and badly if you’ve just lost a job, your house, or rent, but hopefully not a loved one. Hopefully not your heart, the ability to adapt or your relationships.

        Vaccine cure all’s and masks seem more a treatment for the fear phenomenon of actual economic collapse once lockdowns fail. and it’s top down in origin (it’s motivated by those who stand to loose the most). It matters little if they work or not. to be bluntly honest, it is not know if they will work or the long term outcome.

        Masks and vaccines function to create an implied conditional consent place holder, to make the masses comply and get back to the till. Unfortunately the damage is already done to the economy of much of the world and many social upheavals seem imminent in countries that didn’t heed or act early enough.

        Consider the ‘normal’ ( lol) fossil fuel/consumer based economy/society. The more available energy is, the bigger and the faster it goes, the grater the number of folks can get on the ride and the more solid the perception this will continue. Was this ever realistic?

        In our current situation, we have diminished energy availability, and less of all the following. finished goods, services, trade opportunities, entertainment, comfort, water, food, health and wealth security. ( I would like to say this is happening slowly, but I can’t) the perceptions are beginning to fray and discord grow, options reduce. Competition increases, It’s fertile ground for conflict as the K shape recovery diverges.

        Fear, greed, hate and ignorance are the true enemy.

        At the end of the conundrum, we’re being forced to Wake Up and adapt. Adaptation is trait we often praise ourselves for having. We will build an economy out of the available values, relationships, resources we have at the time. We will be left in the same situation no matter what our current political persuasion. race, gender, age, skills or good looks. Which is human nature ( both good and bad) minus abundant fossil fuels. hopefully we’ll still have the spark of good will not produce a completely depleted planet in the process.

    • People are being told to stay away from work (or anyplace else) if there is any chance that they could be sick. Also, people are being told to self-isolate if they think that there is any chance that they could have caught the illness. A third issue is the added stress of the situation. People get so paranoid about the perhaps having the illness, this keeps them from carrying on their normal activities.

      We should not be surprised if absences for sickness are rising. Productivity would be expected to fall in such a case.

    • ssincoski says:

      Tangentially related to this but do you have any sources regarding the ‘normal’ amount of container ships making the rounds between China and the US? Somebody I was discussing how many containers are not making it back to China did not seem to be aware of the problem with nobody to fill the containers and nobody around to make stuff to fill the containers.

      I suspect it is the same on both sides of the transaction.

  10. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Performance test looms for $900bn private debt market. Investors who made loans during calmer times before pandemic face a reckoning, analysts say…

    “Fund managers say there was a loosening in lending standards in the years before the pandemic, which helped propel the private credit market to $887bn by June 2020 from $575bn at the end of 2016.”


  11. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Even before the pandemic, India’s banks were struggling. With among the highest ratios of bad loans in the world, at least five lenders have had to be rescued from collapse since late 2018. Several more were in a precarious state.

    “Already creaking under the strain, the sector now faces one of its biggest tests: emerging intact from the crisis.”


  12. Harry McGibbs says:

    “South Africa’s Unemployment Insurance Fund may restart payments to help people unable to work because of the coronavirus outbreak, the country’s biggest labor group said…

    ““Government realizes it has to extend some form of relief,” Parks said by phone on Thursday. “We might need to consider a reduced monetary amount.””


  13. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Food has become so expensive in Turkey that some people are spending what money they have to stock up on rice and pasta to avoid swallowing even higher prices in the months ahead.

    “Parents have switched to discount baby biscuits, the cost of eggs has nearly doubled in a year…”


  14. Harry McGibbs says:

    “The UK economy is heading for a double-dip recession after official figures confirmed a renewed slump in November as the second wave of the coronavirus pandemic took hold…

    “Confirming the first step towards a double-dip recession, the latest official figures end six consecutive months of growth over the summer, when the UK economy had been recovering from the first wave of the crisis.”


    • Harry McGibbs says:

      “Negative interest rates could fuel unemployment [in the UK]… monetary policy now has little room to maneuverer. Beyond QE, the Bank of England is limited to using interest rates as a lever to stimulate the economy…

      “Besides the fact they have never been implemented in the UK and strong misgivings about how the financial system would cope, negative rates are likely to have an adverse impact on household consumption.”


  15. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Norwegian Air won’t return to its London Gatwick base after the Covid-19 pandemic subsides, it said today, as it permanently canned all long-haul flights and slashed thousands of jobs.

    “The low-cost carrier said that it would focus on its short-haul European network for 2021, cutting its fleet from 140 planes to 50.”


  16. Bei Dawei says:

    “Alex” reveals the true purpose of the World Economic Forum (Davos):


  17. TY says:

    You can make those memories into reality once more ! Recognizing the energy descent scenario we have recently opted for an electrical cargo trike / bike to bring the kids to school and for local errands. It’s great ! As long as the terrain is flat you don’t even really need the battery.

    • Kowalainen says:

      I hereby grant you the non existing prized trophy of volunteering to downsize your energy footprint.

      Now apply liberal amounts of Rule #5 during those rainy, dark, cold days of two wheeled misery. When peak suck hits your entitled IC princess rear end, a sinister smile should develop on your face as you crank down the Seneca with no remorse.

      You’re welcome.


  18. TIm Groves says:

    How will the inauguration ceremony go on January 20?

    If Roman history serves as any guide, it might go something like this.

    • Minority Of One says:

      “Video unavailable
      This video contains content from BBC Studios, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.”

      Odd, the BBC is HQ-ed in London.
      Has Scotland become independent already?

      • Bei Dawei says:

        Maybe it has to do with the TV licence thing.

      • Jarle says:

        When I took a taxi from Aberdeen airport the driver asked if he could take us on a free detour. Among other things he showed us a statue facing south because it should see the English coming. I can’t remember more at the moment, who is this statue depicting and what’s the story?

        • Mirror on the wall says:

          Possibly William Wallace, who has a prominently situated statue in Aberdeen.

          > a Scottish knight who became one of the main leaders during the First War of Scottish Independence. Along with Andrew Moray, Wallace defeated an English army at the Battle of Stirling Bridge in September 1297.


          He was portrayed by Mel Gibson in Braveheart.

          Don’t mess with Mel and the boys.

          • neil says:

            Famously, Mel should have employed a stuntman for his accent.

            • Mel would make a movie for nothing if it involved hating brits

            • Kowalainen says:

              Rotten tomatoes and cheese drips from that movie clip. Eye roll and face palm inducing cringe, right there.

              The worst thing about contemporary brits is your godawful housing. Otherwise, your suck is about on par with everybody else’s.

              Perhaps Mel should stop producing silly Hollyweird wank and get into home renovation reality teevee? “Mel Rips British Houses”

            • Mirror on the wall says:

              That sounds like calumny.

              What is your point?

          • Jarle says:

            Cheers Mirror. Me and the Mrs watched the movie last night, no matter what people say about Mels accent etc that is one important story and there’s no doubt about who’s side we’re on …

    • The screen in the US says:

      Video unavailable: This video contains content from RLJ Entertainment, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.

    • Tim Groves says:

      The video shows Macro removing Sejanus from power. Both roles are played by Welshmen — interesting BBC casting. You may know them better as Captain Picard and Gimli the Dwarf. One version of underlying history is:

      However, Tiberius soon grew suspicious of his minister’s ambitions. He probably feared that Sejanus was plotting to remove or to kill him. Then, he acted slyly: he began promising Sejanus even greater honours, and probably also allowed him to marry Livilla; in the meantime, he began showing indirectly that the praefect had lost his favour. For example, he left the consulship in May and forced Sejanus to do the same; he began criticizing some of Sejanus’ friends while praising others; and in his letters to the Senate, he stopped including Sejanus’ titles. He began showing affection for his nephews Gaius (better known as Caligula), the last surviving son of Germanicus, and Tiberius Gemellus, Drusus’ son, whom he summoned to Capri. This ambiguous behaviour led some friends of Sejanus to leave his friendship.

      As soon as he saw that the number of Sejanus’ supporters had diminished, Tiberius secretly appointed Sutorius Macro as praetorian prefect and sent him to Rome with precise instructions. In the night between 17th and 18th Macro entered Rome and met the praefect of vigiles, Laco, and the consul Regulus; the next day, he met Sejanus before the temple of Apollo on the Palatine, where the Senate meeting was to be held. Macro told him that a letter had arrived from Capri which would confer him the tribunicia potestas; the sign that he was to be the next emperor. However, when the letter was read, it only contained ambiguous words. Tiberius first praised him, then criticized him and asked, at the end, to put Sejanus under arrest along with two senators linked to him.

      Sejanus was immediately brought to Tullianum, Rome’s jail. The people of Rome were happy, as they could not forget what Sejanus had done to Agrippina, whom they loved. Sejanus’ statues were torn down by an angry mob before his very eyes. The Senate soon met to decide Sejanus’ fate, sentencing him to death. He was strangled, his body exposed on the Gemonian stairs and then thrown in the Tiber (after being abused by people for 3 days); damnatio memoriae was issued on his name, and statues representing him were destroyed. His children too died in the general hysteria; his daughter, who was a virgin thus being immune from capital punishments, was raped before being strangled. Apicata, who was repudiated by Sejanus several years before he married Livilla, decided to take revenge and sent Tiberius a letter, revealing to him, truthfully or not, that Sejanus and Livilla had killed Drusus. Then, she committed suicide. Tiberius became desperate and paranoid, and Livilla soon perished after the reading of Sejanus’ letter. By 33 CE, most of Sejanus’ friends and relatives were dead.


  19. Tim Groves says:

    If you are still worried about Covid-19, you haven’t been paying attention.

    Dr. Delores Cahill is so expert in this field that nobody else knows even half as much as she does.

    She says take Vitamin D, Vitamin C and Zinc, eat well—no junk!, keep encountering germs—they are good for you.

    There is no need for social distancing, no need for people without symptoms to wear masks, and absolutely there is no need for a vaccine, no need for lockdowns, and lockdowns kill.People are dying!

    Catch this disease and after two or three weeks you will be immune for life, If you get it bad, take hydroxochloroquinnine (excuse my spelling).

    This interview was conducted last May.


    • Yorchichan says:

      I got over covid-19 in about two weeks. One day I felt ill and couldn’t do much, the next day I woke up feeling fine, did some (light) training and went to work. So much for long covid. I hope you/Dr. Cahill are correct about life long immunity. I suspect I will be susceptible to a new variant next winter, but it won’t affect me so badly as this time due to my retaining some immunity.

      Here’s a video about adverse reactions to the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines. It’s kind of boring because it’s mainly just scrolling through a long list, but this at least demonstrates how widespread the adverse reactions are. I remember Del Bigtree stating that only 1% of adverse reactions make it onto the VAERS database. If this is truly the case, a complete list would be long indeed. The only adverse reaction drilled into reports death 30 mins after receiving the vaccine! Was this particular case selected at random? Probably not.


      • Jarle says:

        “I got over covid-19 in about two weeks.”

        Are you sure it was THE BUG and not some other respiratory virus?

        • Yorchichan says:

          100% sure? Nope. I’m far too squeamish to stick a cotton bud up my throat or up my nose, even though if the result had come back positive it would have been worth £500 to me. But I know.

          • Jarle says:

            Whatever it was, good to hear you handled it!

            My worst cold/flu in the previous decade was in the spring of 2016, knocked me out for several days.

            2020 went by with little to report; I spent two days on the sofa in February and then had a light cold like thing in the summer.

          • neil says:

            All right, so you don’t know.

      • Rodster says:

        “80% of People Taking Maderna Vaccine Had Significant Side-Effects”

        Doctor dies 3 days after taking the poorly tested, rushed to market poison vaccine.

      • Tim Groves says:

        I’m very glad to hear that you are over it now. It sounds like you had a pretty horrendous time of it.

        Incidentally, Mrs Tim and I got sick 25 months ago (in December 2018) with a cold/flu that among other things burned our throats and made us truly miserable for three weeks. At the beginning of last month I caught what seemed to be the same bug but it was much milder and I shook it off in three or four days, and the Mrs. managed to avoid it completely. So, was immunity retained? Or are all the extra vitamins I take now turning me into Superman?

        We didn’t get tested either time, nor did we visit the doctor. But we took the sort of countermeasures your great grandmother would have recommended and we pulled through fortunately. My local GP doesn’t do reservations. He has a setup where you go up to the front desk, sign your name, and then sit in the waiting room for three, four or even five hours with a bunch of other sick people before seeing him. It’s a great way to pick up whatever bugs are going around town.

        Japan has been going slowly on vaccines. By law, they can’t be authorized without local trials, which are now ongoing. It looks like local authorities will start offering Pfizer and Astra Zeneca ones from February and possibly the Moderna one from May. As they will be free for everybody, some enthusiasts will doubtless want to collect the entire set.

        • Jarle says:


          I’ve never been to Japan but have thought about visiting. Where are you situated? I’m not after your coordinates but facts and impressions from your surroundings …

          • TIm Groves says:

            I’m living in the mountains about 50km north of Kyoto City. To my eyes, it looks a bit like the low-lying areas of Switzerland or the Carpathians or like Appalachia with rice paddies around here. We are also increasingly surrounded by deer and boar and visited by bears and macaques. Some great scenery, but modern development has wrecked a lot of it and ugly buildings have become ubiquitous.

            Like many parts of Europe, the Japanese countryside is emptying out of young people leaving the old folks behind. Almost the only growth industry locally in recent years has been nursing homes. Perhaps Covid-19 will cause a major rethink of that policy.

            At least in the countryside, there is very little crime, and very little grumbling or anger or resentment evident, despite the general decline in prosperity and the rise in disparities. Most people still have jobs to fill the daytime hours and enough money to be able to run their lives, and they tend to be parochial, not wondering very much about things happening beyond the horizon.

            Another thing about the Japanese in general. They are a nation of savers and they hate credit card debt. During the boom times, ordinary people saved a lot, and now that younger people can’t save very much, their elderly parents or grandparents often help them out. So the situation we often hear about in the US where people are just one paycheck away from bankruptcy doesn’t apply nearly as often in Japan. Moreover, as in Europe, national health insurance is mandatory and healthcare is very affordable, so that’s one less thing to worry about.

            • Jarle says:

              Cheers Tim. If I ever get there I won’t spend much time in the big cities; smaller towns, the countryside and it’s inhabitants are far more interesting.

  20. Lidia17 says:

    Bill Gates now largest owner of US farmland:

    Bill Gates… has been quietly snatching up 242,000 acres of farmland across the U.S. — enough to make him the top private farmland owner in America.

    After years of reports that he was purchasing agricultural land in places like Florida and Washington, The Land Report revealed that Gates, who has a net worth of nearly $121 billion according to Forbes, has built up a massive farmland portfolio spanning 18 states. His largest holdings are in Louisiana (69,071 acres), Arkansas (47,927 acres) and Nebraska (20,588 acres). Additionally, he has a stake in 25,750 acres of transitional land on the west side of Phoenix, Arizona, which is being developed as a new suburb.

    • Tim Groves says:

      Gates is also investing in lab-grown meat.

      I’m sure it’s going to be de-smegging-licious!

      • Jarle says:

        “Gates is also investing in lab-grown meat.”

        Lab-grown meat … if that isn’t a sign of madness than all is well.

      • Xabier says:

        The EU only recently approved the yellow mealyworm as ‘fit for humans and safe’.

        That will form part of our rations, clearly.

        At home or in the camps – sorry, Health Protection Centres.

    • Xabier says:

      Good find, Lydia. Not even bothering to hide his plans anymore….

      • joke is of course, that Gates thinks farmland will continue to deliver wealth like it does now

        whereas in the future, without oil, farmland will be worth only what can be produced from it with muscle power alone.

        which of course might make serfs of all of us

  21. roc says:

    There are now 250,000 Chinese troops surrounding us, 75,000 in Canada and the rest in Mexico. The generals said if they set foot in this country they will be wiped out swiftly as they are ready.

    The Mayor of Oklahoma City was informed by POTUS on Monday via email that the Insurrection Act has been enacted and arrests will begin in that city. This is the first of many cities this will happen in.


    • Lidia17 says:

      “FEMA.gov also reveals that Gaynor ran military security for the Camp David Presidential Retreat. From FEMA.gov: Gaynor served for 26 years as an enlisted Marine and Infantry Officer in the United States Marine Corps. During his tenure in the Marines, he was assigned as the Executive Officer responsible for the security of Presidential Retreat, Camp David; assigned as the Head of Plans, Policy, & Operations at the Headquarters Marine Corps during the September 11, 2001 attacks; and deployed in support of Iraqi Freedom with the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force where he coordinated combat operations in the Al-Anbar Province of Iraq for Multi-National and Marine forces.”

      So… not a horse lawyer, then??

    • Tim Groves says:

      There are now 250,000 Chinese troops surrounding us, 75,000 in Canada and the rest in Mexico.

      Whatever happened to the Monroe doctrine?

      • neil says:

        I don’t think it survived the Cuban revolution of 1959 and the ussr’s long attachment to the island.

    • Bei Dawei says:


  22. Rodster says:

    Doctor dies 3 days after taking the Pfizer Covid vaccine.


  23. JoJo says:

    A fascinating video interviewing two very intelligent doctors. The topic “has covid 19 been isolated.”

    Two interesting things from the video.

    All of the images that we have seen for the thing we call covid 19 are artists renditions. Electron microscope images of the thing we call covid 19 dont exist.

    The genome of the ting we call covid 19 is a computer simulation. The thing we call a vaccine is designed to modify our cells to address a computer simulation.

    I now have a slightly better understanding of the tenuousness of the paradigm that asserts that the thing called covid 19 has substance. Countering that is the fact that a awful lot of resources have been put into the idea of germ medicine. My belief has been that the thing called covid 19 was a thing called a virus that has real substance that was released from the wuhan lab. Now im not sure. Elaborate fear porn?

    Regardless once the tenuousness of identifying the thing called covid 19 even once the ideas of testing for it are questioned in my mind. How can you test for something that has never been identified? How can you say a “variant” has emerged if the original has never been identified?

    Detractors say of course it has been identified. So what is identified? Is it a process that makes sense from a common sense standpoint? Is it a process that justifies actions that have been taken?



    • Minority Of One says:

      Excellent video, 1h 12min. Seems like whatever the vaccines are based on, it isn’t sars-cov-2.

  24. Doesn’t look good


    (This guy is Turkish but he tries to talk in English.)

    • This is called, “The GREAT RESET: IR 4.0 and ENERGY REVOLUTION,” where IR 4.0 is Industrial Revolution 4.0.

      In IR 4.0, everything will be done by machines. The earlier IR’s started from all hand work, and added more machines.

      The Energy Revolution will add new energy that is “more efficient” than fossil fuels (only if you measure it badly, I expect)

      He says this revolution started in 2002. I didn’t get to the end of the video. It is hard to understand the speaker, with his Turkish accent.

  25. Bei Dawei says:

    I wish c-theorists would say something about the new craze for singing sea shanties on TikTok. Maybe our new overlords want us to sing while servicing the “Moloch” machine? Just spitballin’ here.

    • Stu from New Jersey says:

      I *love* your handle, Bei Dawei!

      • Bei Dawei says:

        Thank you! Er…may I ask why?

        • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

          by the way?

          or not?

          Stu could be Stu Jersey.

          (nothing earthshaking tonight.)

          • Bei Dawei says:

            That…has never occurred to me before. Now I can’t unsee it.

            Actually those characters rhyme, at least in Mandarin. It’s pronounced “Bay! Da! Way!” (貝大衛)

    • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

      one of the more recent c-theeories was that covid19 was going to mutate.

      and then it did mutate!

      omg THEY are all out to get us!

      • Bei Dawei says:

        That was not only a c-theory, but a regular theory based on medical science. (Flu viruses mutate every year, right?)

        • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

          some c-theeorists seem to want us to believe that a (regular) mutation of a virus is a (predicted) plot that was unhatched for some neffarious reason(s).

          let’s go with “medical science”.

          • Kowalainen says:

            Or just stick with the evolutionary ideals of Mother Earth. She seem to have an affinity for mutating the shit out of life (and almost-life).

            Whatever works and can spread to new habitats, in the case of coronavirus, that habitat would be mammals.

    • Jarle says:

      “I wish c-theorists would say something about the new craze for singing sea shanties on TikTok. ”

      I’ll bite: Comfort while waiting for the inevitable?

      • Bei Dawei says:

        Do people in lockdown typically crave sugar and tea and rum?

        Heh heh, I think we should require all c-theories to be presented in the form of a sea shanty:

        “Soon may pop those bubbles of debt
        “And then we’ll see a Great Reset….”

        • Xabier says:

          Rum and sodomy is the British naval tradition, according to the saying.

          With some whipping……

  26. whatever government you pay homage to, there’s none nuttier than our British one:


    ya couldn’t make it up

    • Mirror on the wall says:

      It is not only the fish who may have nothing to supposedly be ‘happy’ about apart from that they are ‘British’. Having now trashed the UK economy the Tories have immediately turned their sights to trashing workers’ rights. Sadly we have no way to get rid of TP before the 2024 GE – and even then many of the English are likely to wave a flag and vote Tory. These policies can only further boost the vote for SNP in May and an escape from the UK. Enough is enough. Bye.

      > Post-Brexit shake-up of regulations including 48-hour week

      Worker protections enshrined in EU law — including the 48-hour week — would be ripped up under plans being drawn up by the government as part of a post-Brexit overhaul of UK labour markets. 

      The package of deregulatory measures is being put together by the UK’s business department (Beis) with the approval of Downing Street, according to people familiar with the matter. It has not yet been agreed by ministers — or put to the cabinet — but select business leaders have been sounded out on the plan.

      The proposed shake-up of regulations from the “working time directive” will delight many Tory MPs but is likely to spark outrage among Britain’s trade union leaders.

      The move would potentially mark a clear divergence from EU labour market standards but the UK would only face retaliation from Brussels under the terms of its new post-Brexit trade treaty if the EU could demonstrate the changes had a material impact on competition.

      The main areas of focus are on ending the 48-hour working week, tweaking the rules around rest breaks at work and not including overtime pay when calculating some holiday pay entitlements, according to people familiar with the plans.

      Ed Miliband, Labour’s business secretary, said the proposals were a “disgrace” at a time when so many people were worried about their jobs. 

      “In the midst of the worst economic crisis in three centuries, ministers are preparing to tear up their promises to the British people and taking a sledgehammer to workers’ rights,” he said. 

      “Workers in the UK are the primary beneficiaries of the very positive judgments of the European courts,” said an official at the Trades Union Congress, adding that any attempt to “whittle down and narrow” the interpretation of European law “is a concern because it amounts to a diminution of rights”.

      There will be nerves at the top of government about how a shake-up of employment rights will be received among low-paid working class voters who backed the Tories in northern ‘Red Wall’ seats

      But in a call with 250 leading business figures earlier this month, prime minister Boris Johnson urged industry to get behind plans for future regulatory liberalisation after Brexit — to the delight of many free marketeers in his cabinet….


    • “Unsold fish are rotting on docks, seafood companies are hitting the wall, but Jacob Rees-Mogg says what matters is that fish are now ‘happier’ because they’re ‘British’”

  27. Fast Eddy says:

    Update (1200ET): In the latest update surrounding the viral variant that has found its way to the US, two NYC residents – one from Manhattan, the other from Queens – despite the fact that the US barred all foreign travelers unless they could present a COVID-19 test.

    Canada Leak Oct 14, 2020:

    – Projected COVID-19 mutation and/or co-infection with secondary virus (referred to as COVID-21) leading to a third wave with much higher mortality rate and higher rate of infection. Expected by February 2021.

    (I suspect they will not refer to it as Covid 21 now … for obvious reasons)

    • JMS says:

      So far, this October leak has proved absolutely right:

      – Phase in secondary lock down restrictions … Expected by November 2020- check
      – Daily new cases of COVID-19 will arise … by end of November 2020 – Check
      – Complete and total secondary lock down … early January 2021 – Ckeck
      – Projected COVID-19 mutation and / or co-infection with secondary virus … Expected by February 2021- check (that was anticipated)

      Everything indicates that the Canadian leaker is a bona fide leaker (or Nostradamus reincarnated).

      • Ed says:

        Just waiting on the “much higher mortality rate”.

        • JMS says:

          I suspect that will come (coincidentally of course) after mass vaccination. We’ll see.

          • Interesting, so many possibilities and sub-scenarios:

            – vaccination effort more or less a placebo to shore up gov mandate for ~2025 econ/energy de-growth authoritarian agendas (and or perhaps to negatively ‘marker’ determined “anti waxers” as the future pool of rebel rousing dissidents to easily corral off the plantation)

            – early shot in very hard depop strategy (more precisely targeted at elderly and long term hospitalized for ~now), but essentially hi tech maniac’s final goal in erasing billions eventually in few decades

            – any of the above but in combination of originating as asymmetric attack by forces domestic or foreign to merely affect the US election cycle or achieving larger scale agendas in terms of front loading upcoming threshold events

            – genuine yet chaotic response to real outbrake


            Assign individual probabilities xy% as you like.
            it’s a dog’s mess at the moment to analyse..

            • JMS says:

              Tricky business indeed. There’s too much smoke in the air (with the smoke works operating 24/24 now) to see anything crystal clear. Besides, there are always the unknowns, the fabricated ones.

              The only thing I know is that a revolution has began in January 2020 and is fully underway now, in its first anniversary. The French Revolution took five years to complete (1889-1894) and was grrreat successss.The Technocratic Revolution of the 21st century, I don’t know if it can be completed or how many years it would take to get there, but I’m sure it hardly be grrrreat successsss (for me at least, since tyrants hate me!), because of surplus energy and stuff….

            • Xabier says:

              In Hell, worldof, there are no doubt many forms of torture, and many demons each with their own agenda of sorts.

              Many are indeed acting quite genuinely above all in the medical profession – we should never overestimate the general intelligence of doctors after all, above all these days.

              Others mostly know only a part of the plan: the ultimate aim is only ever shared by a very small group in such upheavals, but they can , as the history of the 20th century shows, move and dominate tens and hundreds millions.

              Like Nazism, from which it may well be descended, it is probably a psychotic Techno-Eugenicist cult, with a strong occult element (remember Lagarde and her very odd public number 7 messaging?) acting through established institutions, and forming and imposing new ones.

              And, of course, all the while geopolitics, the resource crisis, the clash of empires, their growth and fall, continue to operate as normal.

        • Erdles says:

          “Just waiting on the “much higher mortality rate”.

          Over the year I have tracked and repeatedly stated on here that the mortality rate is 1.2% of all cases with a 21 day lag. In the UK (at least) this is now 2.5%. 40000 cases at Christmas 1000 deaths yesterday. IMO the mortality rate has doubled.

          • Jarle says:

            “Over the year I have tracked and repeatedly stated on here that the mortality rate is 1.2% of all cases with a 21 day lag. In the UK (at least) this is now 2.5%. 40000 cases at Christmas 1000 deaths yesterday. IMO the mortality rate has doubled.”

            In Norway and Sweden no such thing has happened, why?

        • Xabier says:

          A much higher mortality rate? They can fake that easily enough.

          People aren’t even aware of the real total deaths for 2020, and earlier years, even though that info is publicly available and not doctored.

          All they need is more lying, alarmist, headlines, and new some regulations to hammer us down.

          More cowardly people will run off to get the vaccinations, which is their main aim this year, apart from wrecking most SME’s and putting in the surveillance infrastructure.

      • Bei Dawei says:

        I’ve already heard Q compared to John Titor.

  28. Ed says:

    I like the video https://www.bitchute.com/video/XtInWFgg8I7m/
    it ends with General Flynn reciting the Lord’s Prayer and shows night over the global moving from west to east (backwards). It shows that states in red and blue first with the fraudulent results and then flipping to the true honest results. All the contested states go to the people and California goes to the people.

    There is now talk of an interregnum a period of military custodianship under FEMA continuity of government and parts of the military loyal to the Constitution. Lasting three months starting on January 20th. At least me do not have to wait long. I fully support the Constitution of the United States and I fully support the duly elected president Donald Trump. I believe the vice president will be Michael Flynn.

    • JoJo says:

      At this point in time I consider the possibility of Trump being sworn in remote. The joint chief of staffs statement that they consider Biden president elect would seem to confirm that.

      The hate for trump that has been created is substantial.The consequences of Trump being sworn in would have rather dramatic consequences.

      Still the possibility of trump being sworn while remote is still there. IMO because clearly the CCP is taking control of a system that they have been working for several decades and the military may not want to work for them.

      War solves a lot of questions about why things are not so hot. The left wants war with Russia. The right wants war with China.

      Myself i think the last thing the USA should do is get involved in a war. Chinas influence should be removed from the USA and the election fraud eliminated but no war. Im not sure any outcome is really preferable at this point. Regardless who is swore in half the country believes they are ripped off. The party in control distributes its printed money to its supporters and war with the supposed ideological enemy. War with either china or russia would prove to be disastrous IMO.

      Can a robust military exist in this environment? Not in my opinion. Nor IMO is any amount of creating a new enemy going to mend the divide in the nation.

      That divide can only be healed with finding commonality in our hearts. Thats a really tough thing at this point. People feel wounded and victimized. Trust once lost is not easily regained.

      The start would be to acknowledge a finite world and the things that are important to us. Our children and peaceful communities. The money printing would have to go and we would have to live within our means. However bad this might be it would certainly be preferable to the other paths that are IMO inevitable.

      It would mean that those in power would have to give up power. It would also mean that we as individuals would have to give up power and entitlement. THe latter supports the former.

      Is there a path forward? I dont like to lie. There is always possibilities. Humans capabilities are as great as their many flaws. On a individual level we can work toward truth and solutions to the extent that our wounds allow. From my perspective thats really not a choice regardless of what the outcome is perceived to be. That doesnt mean whitewashing the situation or lieing. We have choice over our energy and our essence to some extent. That remains our true power even as our other perceptions of power dissolve. I feel its appropriate to make our choice to choose our essence in these times. In some ways that is a opportunity that could only manifest in these circumstances.

      • Ed says:

        Yes, a return to the gold standard with elimination of the federal reserve bank.

      • Ed says:

        Healing?! Half the country is working poor, half is government employees/welfare takers and 5% are arrogant university/urban egotists. How will the half that does the work throw off the leeches? Can the government/welfare takers be forced to work? The 5% will do as they are ordered to do.

      • Artleads says:

        “The start would be to acknowledge a finite world and the things that are important to us. Our children and peaceful communities. The money printing would have to go and we would have to live within our means. However bad this might be it would certainly be preferable to the other paths that are IMO inevitable.”

        Nice, but if you say a thing is inevitable, that becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy.

    • Joseph Robinnette Biden Jr. Irish Catholic

      Michael Thomas Flynn Irish Catholic

      What the f is the difference?

    • Bei Dawei says:

      I think his VP ought to be Sonichu, inhabiting the body of Chris Chan. (CWC is what DFT would have been like if he hadn’t grown up rich.) The Dimensional Merge and all that.

      Shadilay and dobrii utrom.

  29. roc says:

    Merci Monsieur le Président

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  31. JoJo says:

    I see the probability for false flags very very high. Possibly even Bidens assassination. Bidens assassination gives them everything they want. Kamala is president and the population can be terrorized with impunity.

    Needless to say I am advocating staying home and keeping compassion and light in our hearts. Beauty has not been stolen from the world. They cant steal that and they cant steal our hearts. Choosing beauty and light as creatures of this world is infinitely powerful. Their acts, the election fraud, censorship are acts of desperation. We are certainly in for some different times ahead but these times are only difficult in terms of the false narratives and images dissolving from lack of substance. When things of no substance dissolve it is only disconcerting because you believed they had substance. Keep light in your heart. Keep compassion in your heart. Know that you are beautiful.

    • Azure Kingfisher says:

      The script writers have multiple avenues for removing Biden from the stage:

      1. Fake death due to natural causes/old age or COVID-19.
      2. Removal from office under the 25th Amendment.
      3. Fake death due to assassination carried out by political enemies.

      In each case, Harris becomes president. However, a scripted fake assassination results in no real injuries/deaths, enables a Harris presidency, unifies the Democratic base against the Republican base while further traumatizing and polarizing the country at large, and provides the catalyst for increasingly draconian response measures against the citizenry who are now considered “potential terrorists.” Throw in a major Democratic-led witch hunt and purging of Congress to shore up power, possibly carried out by AOC and her “Squad” of blacklist makers.

      From, “Biden Says Rioters Who Stormed Capitol Were Domestic Terrorists”

      “Mr. Biden has said he plans to make a priority of passing a law against domestic terrorism, and he has been urged to create a White House post overseeing the fight against ideologically inspired violent extremists and increasing funding to combat them.”


      The “War on Terror” is coming home.

      • JoJo says:

        “The “War on Terror” is coming home.”

        practice makes perfect

      • Rodster says:

        Gotta love politicians who encourage or create a crisis then offer to help restore more order via mass surveillance, tyranny and top down control.

      • JMS says:

        “The “War on Terror” is coming home.”

        And all began twenty years ago, with Sept.11 and Patriot Act.

        As a movie buff I would say the “War on Terror” script was utter garbage. And its sequel “War on Virus” is even worst I’m affraid, it has no head nor tail. In any case, when you own all the theaters in town, that doesn’t matter at all. People need to be fed stories and “meaning” and aren’t really choosy. The virus movie is the talk of the town for a year now. And that’s what counts for the producers. 🙂

  32. that the don is refusing to pay Guiliani brings on a deep black humour that is beyond parody

    • https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/13/politics/donald-trump-rudy-giuliani-legal-fees-white-house/index.html

      Trump has told staff not to pay Rudy Giuliani over irritation at being impeached again

      The President is now more isolated than ever. Several of his Cabinet secretaries — the ones who haven’t resigned in protest — are avoiding him, his relationship with the vice president remains fractured and several of his senior staffers are scheduled to depart their posts this week.

      When there is not enough energy to go around, strange things seem to happen. Way too much discord. Hard to keep groups together.

    • Lidia17 says:

      CNN? Likely to be Fake News..
      Trump is either a.) weak, b.) not weak, or c.) not weak but wanting to appear weak.
      I can’t imagine that he (nor many members of the military/intelligence) are just going to let Biden/China waltz in without opposition.

      I have a feeling Trump was indeed recruited to be where he is now, and that these machinations have been playing out for decades.

      “In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way.” —Franklin D. Roosevelt

  33. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Achieving herd immunity and bringing the coronavirus in check won’t resolve all of the pandemic’s economic damage, Carmen Reinhart, chief economist at the World Bank, said Tuesday.

    “What began as a health crisis is creating “your classic balance sheet problems” and risks plunging the world into a dire financial crisis, Reinhart said…”


    • I think one of the big issues is:

      “Financial institutions across the globe in varying degrees have also agreed to grace periods. Periods in which businesses and households don’t repay their debts. What happens when those programs come to an end?” the economist said.

      • Minority Of One says:

        >>What happens when those programs come to an end?

        Lockdown Lebanon-style. Or a techno-fascist/communist state a-al-China where you do as you are told or else.

    • Xabier says:

      A dire financial crisis which will, of course, surprise all of those in government who enacted policies which could only have brought it about. ….

  34. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Europe’s oil demand is off to a sluggish start to the year as restrictions on movement limit the consumption of road fuels.

    “Road use in the U.K., France, Italy and Spain was down 37% last week compared with pre-virus levels…”


    • Harry McGibbs says:

      “It may be counterintuitive to say that the oil demand crash and the resulting glut in 2020 could lead to an oil supply crunch in just a few years.

      Yet, a growing number of experts and international agencies warn that the world could be headed for an oil shortage when oil demand finally recovers…

      “Last year, the pandemic slashed global oil demand… But the coronavirus also accelerated a structural decline in upstream oil investments…

      “Investments in new oil supply have never been able to achieve the highs seen in 2014, just before the previous oil crisis of 2015-2016 pushed the oil industry to reassess the way it spends on big projects.

      “But 2020 investments hit a new low.”


      • MM says:

        Don’t worry, there will not be a recovery what so ever because a recovery
        1. needs growing energy supply (Gail) in the first place what is gone since 2 years
        2. will require an end to lockdown, what is not in the crads as we will go to North Korea for all.
        Except there will be some fuel left if you show up with a Porsche at the gas station (ahem, if you will make it there through all the “pedestrians”…)

    • This sound terrible for world oil supply, whatever the price.

    • Xabier says:

      Curiously, though, at least in the UK, air pollution originating from road traffic is now extremely high, higher in fact than 3 years ago.

      It has been suggested that this might be caused by all the diesel vans and trucks delivering goods ordered online.

      This will certainly result in many tens of thousands of extra deaths – in the UK it was estimated to be running at 25k or so per annum.

      Lock-downs, the gifts that keep on giving.

  35. Harry McGibbs says:

    “The energy crisis that has hit Asia in 2020/21 exhibits many of the characteristics of crises that hit Britain in 1946/47 and the United States in 1973/74.

    “The common thread in all three is that abnormal weather or a supply disruption aggravated an underlying energy shortage and brought the crisis to a head; signs of a crisis had been evident months earlier but were not acted upon with sufficient urgency.”


    • This sounds like a standard problem. A similar problem occurs with both oil and electricity.

      Hurricanes in the Gulf have brought gasoline supply problems to Atlanta more than once. We are far enough away from Gulf supplies and imported gasoline from Europe that there were a few days when gas stations ran out. If they had been allowed to charge higher prices, they likely wouldn’t have run out. Local officials made a big show of saying, “No price gouging.”

  36. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Shocks to supply chains are engulfing a wider swath of the global economy as the pandemic rages on, threatening to stifle Asia’s trade-led recovery just as soaring freight rates make it harder for businesses to weather another year like 2020.”


    • the bottom line of the current global economic system is ‘cash passing’

      money is passed hand to hand, in order to create a figurative profit

      but since oil supply began its terminal decline, ‘figurative profit’ has become ‘actual debt’

      but almost no one can admit that.

      • gpdawson2016 says:

        And, more and more, I’m getting the feeling that we’re not supposed to admit it. It’s simply not done. When the music stops you grab a seat and those that miss out… well, they’ve missed out and there is nothing to be done about it. But you don’t talk about FightClub.

    • But when you get to the end of the article, you find a long list of reasons for optimism.

  37. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Latin America is the world’s worst-hit region by the coronavirus pandemic and its economy faces a slow and painful recovery, with a growing risk that worsening poverty and inequality will trigger political upheaval, economists have warned.”


    • Harry McGibbs says:

      “For more than 60 years, Cuba supplied at least some rice, milk, beans, sugar, chicken, electrical power and even cigarettes to its people nearly free of cost regardless of whether they worked, allowing many to survive without a job or depend solely on remittances.

      “But this year, the government is implementing a deep financial reform that reduces subsidies…”


      • which explains why UBI can never work

        • Exactly what I was thinking.

          Without enough energy, the increased productivity and higher standard of living for those who are working will be a problem as well. There likely won’t be enough jobs to go around.

        • Cubans skillfully stretched their embargo cage and essentially de-growth period for decades, now on their down sloping staircase trajectory bumped into serious hard wall thresholds likely impossible to alleviate..

          This has [very little] common with UBI as presented recently in western circles aka not showing up, contributing nothing, earning pocket change money for staying put, buying trinkets and junk food..

    • Large part of Latin America’s pop:

      – lot of booze & smoking and lack of proper sleep habits, nutrient / vit deficient diet yet inclination towards obesity, ..

      This could be a factor or not.

  38. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Debt at China’s state-owned firms in spotlight as credit tightening raises default pressure:

    “Chinese state firms defaulted on 71.8 billion yuan (US$11.1 billion) worth of debt in 2020 – the largest total since China allowed defaults in 2014

    “Analysts say any defaults of weak state-owned enterprises would be highly contagious and impact the entire credit market.”


  39. Harry McGibbs says:

    “US initial jobless claims jumped to 965k last week – an awful outcome – 176k above expected while continuing claims came in 271k above expectations at 5.27mn.

    “To put this in context the worst reading during the Global Financial Crisis was 665k, so the ongoing stress in the jobs market is clear for all to see.”


  40. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Germany’s economy suffered its biggest contraction last year since the 2009 financial crash, as it was hit hard by the coronavirus pandemic, official data showed Thursday.” [Wasn’t doing so great in 2019, I recall.]


  41. Xabier says:

    Nationalism = belief in fairies with pots of gold…….

    Infantilism in its most embarrassing form.

  42. Tango Oscar says:

    Fantastic piece Gail! I believe this Covid thing isn’t going away with all the “new strains” that keep appearing every 2 weeks or so. The lockdowns appear mostly effective at killing just as many people as the virus once suicides, drug overdoses, job losses, and general depression spreading over the US populace are accounted for. Job losses printed at about 1,000,000 again today, basically the highest since August even once we factor in seasonality losses it appears the new lockdowns are doing their thing. I’m still torn on weather this is a de facto take down of business as usual or we just have the most incompetent leaders of all time. We deserve our fate either way.

    I’ve been paying close attention to precious metals and Bitcoin and there are a lot of interesting things going on. The head of the ECB Christine Lagarde appears ready to drop the hammer on crypto with her statements yesterday and the UK has recently banned crypto derivatives. The Federal Reserve still hasn’t unleashed their digital dollar as they stare in awe as Bitcoin going vertical is clearly highlighting our unfolding monetary crisis. The price of gold appears to be in a range where the bullion banks such as JPMorgan slam the price down hard anytime it gets near $2,000 for obvious reasons, namely profits and to keep the public from suspecting what’s occurring. If the US government doesn’t act to stop Bitcoin soon, I believe things will get really out of hand in a few months as it becomes clear that US government insolvency is in the cards.

    I continue to stay diversified in my investments but for the first time in my life I am actually considering moving my family to another country in the near future. The massive deletion of social media accounts and silencing of Trump is drawing eerily parallel lines to the Nazi book burnings of 1933, to destroy anything someone doesn’t agree with never ends well. I fear social unrest on a much larger scale is going to occur in 2021 that makes 2020 look like a warmup for the Hunger Games. I do not believe most people alive today know their history dating back 100 years and many of the people who survived the Great Depression like my grandparents are long gone.

    The US fiscal situation is becoming more and more absurd as time goes on. In 2020 the US Government deficit was the same amount as the first 220 years as a nation combined. Clearly we’ve reached the exponential end game of monetary ponzi silliness as 2021 should be higher than 2020. But so long as the Fed and other central bankers continue buying up all the treasury bonds, it would appear this giant wealth transfer scheme can continue unabated for awhile. Where this all leads I do not know, but history is definitely rhyming and repeating in ways. Carpe diem.

    • Minority Of One says:

      I have for a while found it odd that we residents of the UK have shown such contempt and disgust for the Nazis (correctly so) but are unable to recognise that we are repeating the same mistakes that allowed the Nazis to get into power in the first place.

    • I see that Bloomberg says,

      Lagarde Blasts Bitcoin’s Role in Facilitating Money Laundering

      “For those who had assumed that it might turn into a currency — terribly sorry, but this is an asset and it’s a highly speculative asset which has conducted some funny business and some interesting and totally reprehensible money-laundering activity,” Lagarde said in an online event organized by Reuters.

      She doesn’t sound like she is going to endorse more widespread use of bitcoin.

      I agree that the US’ fiscal situation is getting more and more absurd. I am afraid that there are quite a few countries with absurd situations.

      The situation is indeed worrying. People don’t try to put all of the pieces together.

  43. Country Joe says:

    We fully agree that the resources per capita ratio is a major predicament facing our finite world. But we propose that the greater imminent threat to humans is the rise in Failure To Cower.

    One of the first indicators of success to a predator is that the potential prey cowers and attempts to escape. When a potential prey defiantly stands it’s ground and possibly advances, it sends a message to the predator that the situation is less than optimal.

    There is growing concern that the delusion among the lower class, that they don’t have to do as they are told, appears to be wide spread and growing.

    A great many in the upper class are suffering from a deficiency of predator success. Their personal lack of fulfillment is creating a pandemic of depression. There is some attention to the depression of the out of work lowers that are homeless and starving but there is a huge neglect of this pandemic of depression in the uppers.
    A comment overheard at the Davos gathering was “It’s nauseating to have a lower look me in the eye. What is the world coming to?”

    Medical experts are looking at the effect of the SARS-CoV-2 variant with the D614G mutation on the Amygdala as possible source of the suppression of the Risk Assessment Response. The N501Y variant is also being considered.

    The first AI produced pharmaceutical, the anti-psychotic drug Shutupaphin, is under consideration as an adjuvant in the next phase of Covid-19 vaccines.

    • Xabier says:

      A well-known and very pompous British journalist – Max Hastings – did write a piece a couple of years ago in which he lamented the fact that workers no longer doffed their caps and called you ‘Sir’.

      ‘Where have they all gone?!’ he asked. Poor man, sounded most unhappy about it.

      He doesn’t know the workers’ joke, in which ‘Sir’ is spelled as ‘Cur.’…..

      • Bei Dawei says:

        If anybody asks me for my pronouns, I’m going to say “massa”.

        • Tim Groves says:

          Mine are “Mr. Handsome” and “His Handsomeness”.

          By the way, Nancy broke her own gender rule four times within half a minute yesterday.

    • Interesting observation:

      “There is growing concern that the delusion among the lower class, that they don’t have to do as they are told, appears to be wide spread and growing.”

      I wonder if having more women in professional roles makes a difference. Men were always called Dr. LastName, or Professor LastName. Women, to a much greater extent, have been called by their first name. Women aren’ t quite as intimidating.

      Also, there are an awfully lot of people who say things like, “We really need oil and gas. What are these crazy leaders trying to tell us?” It sounds a whole lot like “2+2=5.”

  44. Finch says:

    From Twitter concerning the UK:

    47% of covid patients in ICU are obese (they are 32% of general population).

    Should obese >50s be vaccinated as a priority vulnerable group, based on BMI, if a defence of lockdown is to maintain healthcare capacity?


  45. Herbie Ficklestein says:

    Australia to kill pigeon that crossed Pacific from Oregon

    CANBERRA, Australia (AP) — A racing pigeon has survived an extraordinary 13,000-kilometer (8,000-mile) Pacific Ocean crossing from the United States to find a new home in Australia. Now authorities consider the bird a quarantine risk and plan to kill it.
    Kevin Celli-Bird said Thursday he discovered the exhausted bird that arrived in his Melbourne backyard on Dec. 26 had disappeared from a race in the U.S. state of Oregon on Oct. 29.
    Experts suspect the pigeon that Celli-Bird has named Joe, after the U.S. president-elect, hitched a ride on a cargo ship to cross the Pacific.
    …..They say if it is from America, then they’re concerned about bird diseases,” he said. “They wanted to know if I could help them out. I said, ’To be honest, I can’t catch it. I can get within 500 mil (millimeters or 20 inches) of it and then it moves.’”
    He said quarantine authorities were now considering contracting a professional bird catcher.
    The Agriculture Department, which is responsible for biosecurity, said the pigeon was “not permitted to remain in Australia” because it “could compromise Australia’s food security and our wild bird populations.”
    “It poses a direct biosecurity risk to Australian bird life and our poultry industry,” a department statement said.
    In 2015, the government threatened to euthanize two Yorkshire terriers, Pistol and Boo, after they were smuggled into the country by Hollywood star Johnny Depp and his ex-wife Amber Heard.
    Faced with a 50-hour deadline to leave Australia, the dogs made it out in a chartered jet.
    Pigeons are an unusual sight in Celli-Bird’s backyard in suburban Officer, where Australian native doves are far more common
    Poor Joe
    He said the Oklahoma-based American Racing Pigeon Union had confirmed that Joe was registered to an owner in Montgomery, Alabama.

    • Tim Groves says:

      It’s really sad how genocidal the Australians in general are. Always have been. Whether its Tasmanian aboriginals or dingos or rabbits or cats or camels or Yankee Doodle Pigeon, the response is always the same.


      I guess it comes from having been descended from convicts.

      • Herbie R Ficklestein says:

        Sounds a little like those American folks in general. Always have been.
        Whether it is the Native Americans, buffalos, coyotes, carrying pigeons,
        Mountain lions, always the same response…
        I suppose it may be due to being persecuted due to religious beliefs

      • JoJo says:

        The muttly laugh was the essence of that entire cartoon series. Everything else was just peripheral to the laugh.

      • nikoB says:

        Can you eat under cooked pork in your country? In Australia we can because we don’t have trichinosis. Why because we have strict quarantine laws. Applies to plants and animals.

        We also love to kill stuff.

  46. Jarle says:


    • It is easy to see how someone in charge can instill a false belief. In this example, 2+2=5.

      Repeat, “Wind and solar are our clean energy saviors. They will save us from climate change,” often enough, and people will start to believe it. Peop will believe a huge number of other false beliefs, as well.

      • Ed says:

        Fifteen years ago IBM research allowed research into renewable energy. As of five years ago it no longer allowed research into renewable energy it had figured out it was a waste of money.

      • Bei Dawei says:

        “In this example, 2+2=5.”

        Well it might be right, depending on the value of “2”.

        • Perhaps 2.49999999999999 . . . + 2.49999999999999 . . . = 5.000000000000000 . . .

          If you drop all but the leading integers, it does look like 2 + 2 = 5.

        • Jarle says:

          > Well it might be right, depending on the value of “2”.

          I don’t think that’s the point …

    • JoJo says:

      This phenomena is intentional in nature. There are several aspects to it.

      1, Control. Establishing information sources that must be obeyed regardless of apparent and unconcealed flaws in logic.
      2, Keeping humans off balance so they cant source their true talents, intuition and compassion. This keeps them powerless.
      3.Communicating to humans that they are powerless by presenting obvious contradictions and daring them to question. Questioning results in unpleasant consequences.

      There is a unintended consequence that is very positive. Humans realizing that ALL words are just representations and by themselves have no reality or substance. What gives them reality and substance is our creative energy from which the words are birthed. Listen to words. They are really hollow. The emotional content is the true communication. Upon realizing that the true source of what we create with our communication comes from a essence that has not been acknowledged we start to come into our potential.

    • JMS says:

      Tha famous Asch Conformity Experiment

      • JMS says:

        This is bizarre. I don’t understand where the clip above came, when I wanted to post this, about the Asch experiment:

        • JMS says:

          OK, it looks like I’m hallucinating. Instead of Asch’s clip, i saw a scene from Disney cartoons. (?)
          Please, Gail, delete the second post, and this one too. Sorry!

    • Lidia17 says:

      Liberals can easily congratulate themselves for recognizing the mechanism when it’s applied to brown people in the theocratic states they oppose.

      How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?https://www.bitchute.com/video/MtDR33PD0hOp/

  47. Lorraine Sherman says:

    So many gems to comment on, where to start? I think I’ll start with a plug in for Peakprosperity.com – a site very compatible with Gail’s site. PP literally changed my life with the free tutorial “The Crash Course,” in addition to watching “The Hidden Secrets of Money” and reading “The Transition Handbook.” If you have not tapped these three resources, all three are well worth your time.

    Gail writes:
    “In many ways, it is good that we really don’t know what is ahead for
    2021. All aspects of GDP production require energy consumption. A
    huge drop in energy consumption is likely to mean disruption in the
    world economy of varying types for many years to come. If the situation
    is likely to be bad, many of us don’t really want to know how bad.”

    This is such a true statement. Most people would rather not know – maybe even all of us at one point in time. To avoid the “head in the sand” or “deer in the headlight” syndromes, I try to gravitate towards actionable information, and try to filter out what I call ’emotional’ information.

    That’s why I’m growing food in some capacity. The more people who grow food, the more food security society will have. I view it as somewhat of a patriotic and charitable duty. Growing some of our own food (gardening) has some bonus’ too: takes us away from the news, offers great rewards at harvest time, it’s better than a gym, and it can lead to developing other skills. Instead of calling them ‘victory’ gardens, we can call them ‘survival’ gardens.

    I was alarmed to read Gail’s assessment of electricity:

    ” In most places in the world, oil products were available before
    electricity. On the way down, we should expect to see the reverse
    of this pattern: Electricity will disappear first because it is hardest to
    maintain a constant supply. Oil will be available, at least as long as
    is electricity.”

    How would this play out? A sudden widespread outage over a long period of time would be catastrophic; an existential event in the US. No real way to prepare for that, unless you’re a genuine prepper. Short of a total take down, maybe we see it playing out as it is now with places like California being the canary in the coal mine – periodic rolling blackouts peppered with large spread longer blackouts? I know in the Dominican Republic, the State turns off the power regularly and the population has to adjust for those outage times, which are actually scheduled. Maybe during peak times?

    In any power outage, there are three most important things: water, food and shelter. Living in hurricane country, I’ve lived through multiple power outages lasting up to five days, August of 2004 I went 10 days without power in 5 day increments. I live in a rural area, so when I don’t have power, I don’t have water. Not anymore. I now have a reliable source of clean drinking water that runs on arm power. Personally, I’m in favor of simplicity and redundancy over complexity and razor thin availability.

    Finally, living through a collapse, hmmmm. I got my first glimpse into what a collapse might look like from Michael Rupert’s “Collapse” interview. Sobering. Got my second glimpse at what a collapse might look like from James Kunstler’s “The Long Emergency.” Disturbing. Have read interviews with people who survived the war in Yugoslavia in the 90’s and listened to 100’s of hours of Holocaust survivor stories. Even during the Holocaust in the most horrific camps, commerce continued and celebrations were held. During times of great deprivation, the smallest thing is the greatest treasure.

    Same thing in Yugoslavia, although Yugoslavia was more of a war zone and a collapse. Also read an article written by a refugee from Sri Lanka, who left due to the civil war, came back during the cease fire, then lived through the end of the cease fire and more war. The Sri Lankan still went to work, he still planned dinners with friends, played board games, etc. It seems no matter the conditions, life goes on – at least for some.

    The fourth most important thing in a collapse situation is communication. Then there’s security…….

    • Xabier says:

      Good reflections: although my impression is that a kind commerce was allowed in the German death camps in order to set the inmates against one another.

      Also, the goods traded were often stolen, and after killing the owners.

      Primo Levi said that at least the Greeks only stole and did not murder. He also had to make the decision to save one group, and barricade others from their block after the Germans left and they were all starving. Attempting to save everyone would have led to the death of all.

      A hard read, a terrible book, but full of real lessons.

      I’ve read quite lot about civilian life in WW2, and the first lesson – for me – is never end up in a camp – it’s better to be dead on the whole. It’s my own red line.

    • Thanks for writing with all your observations. I have known Chris Martenson for many years, including many in person meetings. He has interviewed me several times. (Similar statements are true for Jim Kustler.) Both of them seem to follow my writings, to a significant extent.

      As far as I can see, intermittent electricity is useful for things like television and perhaps the Internet. It is not good for anything you need to depend on, such as a pump to pump water for humans or animals.

      Your points about needing to get together to play games and celebrate are important. These kinds of activities need to go on, regardless of what is going on around us. Zoom meetings are not an adequate substitute. They especially don’t work if the topic is contentious.

      Prepping is a choice some people can make. The thing I see, however, is that “It takes a village.” A person cannot do it alone. A person cannot get enough calories and fresh water on his/her own, over the longer term. There is too much chance of down-time for some injury. Someone needs to buy all of the property and pay all of the property taxes as well.

      I saw Jimmy Carter’s childhood farm last week, when I visited Plains, GA. He was described as coming from a middle class farm home. Yet, when I pieced together what I saw at the farm and what was available online, it looked to me as if this was a huge operation.

      This pre-electricity farm was described as butchering 20 hogs at a time. One article talked about an operation using 20 horses and mules. The childhood farm included a large grove of pecan trees, among many other things. The operation (including tenant farmers) seemed to include hundreds of acres. The farm had a gasoline pump to provide water for the many animals. It also had a windmill, which evidently was not up to the task of providing water for the amount of livestock being raised.

      The farm featured a general store (right next to the house) that carried items from canned goods, to tobacco, to clothing, to some of the food produced on the farm. According to the material provided, the workers on the farm didn’t have good credit elsewhere, and they didn’t have good transportation. The store was described (if I remember correctly) as another source of revenue. There was also a blacksmith shop on the property, and a clay tennis court, where Jimmy Carter would frequently play tennis with his father.

      I was struck by the fact that even with this big operation, there was still a need to trade for many things. The farm had a number of cash crops, including cotton and pecans, plus other crops grown mostly for the family. Goods brought in from outside included a many types of metal devices pulled by horses or mules, plus canned food and clothing for people. Clearly the gasoline was brought in from outside. Education and healthcare were also purchased from outside. Home heating was provided by wood in fireplaces. I don’t know if they cut their own, or bought it from outside.

      In many ways, this pre-electricity home seemed to me to be a somewhat upgraded version of a pre-civil war plantation.

      Anyone planning to take care of himself/herself and their family would need to think about overall needs and how to meet them. None of us today would be able to reproduce what Jimmy Carter’s family had, I expect.

      • Xabier says:

        Interesting about the Carters: that sounds like quite a substantial operation, not at all humble family farmers!

        Reminds me a little of my father – a socialist – who likes to say that my grandfather ‘had a farm’ when in fact it was a substantial estate with a medieval manor house.

        The truth embarrasses him for some reason. We ran the village together with our cousins who lived in another big house.

        But all on too small a scale to be really viable these days.

        A Spanish small farmer and goatherd named Crespo makes wonderful YT videos about his life: lots of hard work in all weathers, and very little money.

        He gets very poor profits on his produce, and the old village is dying. Life was, of course, always very hard indeed for such tough men (and women).

        • When my parents visited Norway, they visited the farms that their grandparent had come from. We had heard a lot from my grandparents on my father’s side–poor farm, way up in the mountain. There was no way it could support a family with several children. My grandfather, who was the oldest, decided to leave, even though he was in line to inherit it.

          We had heard less about my mother’s side, because they came over a generation earlier. It turns out that they had a huge flat farm, in the southwest part of Norway. It was harder to understand why some of them left to come to the United States.

    • Tom says:

      People need to read this lengthy article to see what we are up against:


      The author lists 42 reasons why humans are likely headed for extinction. Think about what will happen once this die-off gets going. Is there really any way to prepare for that? I think not.

      This is why we have this pandemic IMO. The PTB know this is coming and the pandemic is a means of control. People don’t tend to get as violent and crazy when they are told to there is deadly disease on the loose. That and throw huge amounts of money at the problem. That’s the plan. Hope it works for a while longer.

      • the writer of the piece asserts that:

        “covid 19 has not been scientifically proven to exist”

        c’mon—-I thought we’d got beyond the moon landing mentality now,

        • Lidia17 says:

          Norm, maybe you can prove that it does exist?
          There is a scientist out there, Stefan Lanka, offering €100.000 to anyone who can prove the measles virus exists; a claimant has recently been beaten back.

          Five experts have been involved in the case and presented the results of scientific studies. All five experts, including Prof. Dr. Dr. Andreas Podbielski who had been appointed by the OLG Stuttgart as the preceding court, have consistently found that none of the six publications which have been introduced to the trial, contains scientific proof of the existence of the alleged measles virus.

          In the trial, the results of research into so-called genetic fingerprints of alleged measles virus have been introduced. Two recognised laboratories, including the world’s largest and leading genetic Institute, arrived at exactly the same results independently.The results prove that the authors of the six publications in the measles virus case were wrong, and as a direct result all measles virologists are still wrong today: They have misinterpreted ordinary constituents of cells as part of the suspected measles virus.

          Because of this error, during decades of consensus building process, normal cell constituents were mentally assembled into a model of a measles virus. To this day, an actual structure that corresponds to this model has been found neither in a human, nor in an animal. With the results of the genetic tests, all thesis of existence of measles virus has been scientifically disproved.


          There are some links in German at the above site.

          I like that phrase, “mentally assembled”..
          If you look at some of the PCR testing presuppositions, that’s exactly what happens: researchers just fill in missing genetic sections of their own accord with whatever they think “must be” the missing code.

          Garbage in, garbage out.

          • Next time I sell my environmental soul and get on a plane, I will not be asked (before boarding) to mathematically prove that an aircraft will stay up after it has taken off.

            Even though I know that occasionally one doesn’t.

            Which is just as well, because I can’t prove it.

            Instead I accept that for the past 117 years, thousands of aeronautical engineers, far cleverer than me, have joined together, throughout the world, in the conspiracy to perpetuate the hoax that heaver than air flight is an established fact.

            Even now, there are no doubt parts of this conspiracy that people don’t understand, or are in dispute.

            Nevertheless, I accept that it is unlikely that gravity will claim me before I get to my destination.
            Though there is a minute chance that it might.


            While the details of any disease are always in dispute (such is the nature of medical science) the fact remains that people are dying everywhere. Perhaps people in hospitals are just dressing up to play ‘doctors and nurses’ to make themselves look busy and important?
            And lining up ambulances outside hospitals as part of the charade, just for the TV news coverage?

            Or targeting muslim communities with ‘vaccines are full of alcohol and will alter your DNA’ Or some such.

            there is no collective conspiracy to ‘control the human race’–why I keep repeating that is beyond me. repeating only serves to reinforce ‘truth’ in someone else’s hoaxed mind.

            since my own vaccination here, I have heard of no adverse reactions—-of course, the conspiracists might just be in league with the local undertakers (one of whom I went to school with and looks after all our family business in the death department).

            Next time I see him I shall demand to know if he is trying to increase his profits.

        • Tim Groves says:

          Leaving Stefan Lanka out of this—because, as Keith has pointed out, Stefan is a bit of a publicity seeker and because the alleged measles virus and the alleged Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), which is the virus alleged to cause coronavirus disease 2019 (Covid-19), are envisioned as being two very different hypothetical pathogens—I would like to ask Norman the question: In what sense has Covid 19 (the disease) been scientifically proven to exist?

          As Greta wailed “People are dying!” And indeed they are.

          The question is, what are they dying of?

          They are dying of a whole smorgasbord of ailments that are being officially recorded as “Covid 19”, but how do we know that any given death was actually due to damage by the SARS-CoV-2 virus and not to some other factor.

          Does Covid 19 have a characteristic pattern of progression or a unique path of development?

          Take the case of measles as a typical communicable infectious disease said to be caused by the presence of a viral pathogen.

          Measles typically begins with high fever (may spike to more than 104°), cough, runny nose (coryza), and red, watery eyes (conjunctivitis).

          2-3 days after symptoms begin, Koplik spots (tiny white spots) may appear inside the mouth

          3-5 days after symptoms begin, a rash breaks out. It usually begins as flat red spots that appear on the face at the hairline and spread downward to the neck, trunk, arms, legs, and feet.

          Small raised bumps may also appear on top of the flat red spots. The spots may become joined together as they spread from the head to the rest of the body. When the rash appears, a person’s fever may spike to more than 104° Fahrenheit.

          Several of the symptoms of measles are so characteristic of the disease that one look will tell a doctor that the patient has measles. The combination of symptoms is absolutely unique to measles. There is no way they cold be confused with the symptoms of mumps or chickenpox, for instance.

          Can the same be said of Covid 19? If people catch it, will they all go through the same stages of disease progression, exhibiting the same symptoms in the same order? Or will they not? Or is it one of those new-fangled modern diseases with a busload of potential symptoms that you may or not get and that you don’t know you have unless you get a positive PCR or antibody test?

          • Kowalainen says:

            I think the meme of dying from/dying of is a bit silly at this point.

            It is like being diagnosed with terminal cancer and then dying in a car crash, then blaming the cancer for the death.

            Could we stop that kind of silly shit here?

            However, I am not denying that the reported covid deaths is a bit sketchy to say the least.

            • Jarle says:

              “I think the meme of dying from/dying of is a bit silly at this point.”

              What do you mean? A lot of (most?) people seem to think that CovBug kills like nothing we’ve seen before. It doesn’t: In Norway the average age of the victims is 84 years. In Sweden the biggest group of those dead with a positive test is 80-90 years, the second biggest group is 90+

            • Kowalainen says:

              I just mean keeping it honest. We got enough of divisive narrative out there.

              I think it is about accepting that the pandemic is a brute force return to LTG scenario 3.

              What’s the point in trying to prolong the inevitable. Deal with it; you’re gonna get used to less. It is unfortunate, but it is what it is.

  48. this BBC programme on bitcoin, is an absolutely must listen

    don’t miss it


    • Tango Oscar says:

      They are so going to make it illegal, just another form of gold confiscation as the Euro/Dollar sinks in value. We’ll see how many people want to hold crypto when they’re labeled domestic terrorists.

      • Xabier says:

        Damned economic terrorists, undermining faith in fiat!

        Gold is lovely: one can caress it by candlelight and sing soft songs of joy over it.

        Unlike the fine-spun golden locks of one’s beloved, it won’t age one bit.

        Unfortunately, there is a risk of turning into a Gollum…..

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