COVID-19 Vaccines Don’t Really Work as Hoped

Last week, the CDC announced a surprising finding: “Delta infection resulted in similarly high SARS-CoV-2 viral loads in vaccinated and unvaccinated people.” Public officials had known from the early days of vaccine development that vaccinated people could catch COVID-19, but the assumption had been made that they were not going to be spreaders of COVID-19.

It turns out that the delta variant is sufficiently different from the original Wuhan version of the virus that the vaccines work much less well. The CDC performed an analysis of COVID-19 cases arising from one public gathering in Massachusetts. They found that the gathering led to 469 COVID-19 Delta cases among Massachusetts residents, with 74% of these cases in fully vaccinated attendees. Massachusetts is a highly vaccinated state, with approximately 64% of the population fully vaccinated.

There are other issues coming up as well. How long does the vaccine really last? Is the vaccine itself part of the reason that the virus is mutating as rapidly as it is? Are we making problems for ourselves by creating an army of people with very light cases of COVID-19 who can spread the virus to both the vaccinated and the unvaccinated without realizing that they have more than a cold? Aren’t we inadvertently killing off the least able of the virus mutations and allowing the most virulent to multiply?

My training is as an actuary, so I am familiar with modeling. I am also a “systems thinker.” I know that it is important to look at longer term impacts as well as short-term impacts. If a person works in the healthcare field, it is easy to consider only the obvious short-term benefits. It takes some analysis to figure out that today’s vaccines may lead to stronger variants (such as Delta) and more overall spread of COVID-19.

In this post, I will explain some of the issues involved.

[1] Today’s vaccines provide only a fraction of the true level of protection required. Their actions are in many ways similar to applying weed killer at half the strength needed to kill the weeds or providing antibiotics at half the dose required to stop the spread of bacteria.

All of our lives, we have been told, “Be sure to complete the full course of the antibiotics. It is necessary to kill all of the bacteria. Otherwise, it will be easier for a few of the stronger bacteria not to be affected. If you stop too early, the bacteria that are least affected by the antibiotic will survive and reproduce, while the others will die. Stopping the drug too soon is a great way to achieve antibiotic resistance, quickly.”

Unfortunately, COVID-19 vaccine makers seem to have overlooked this issue. The respected BMJ published an editorial entitled, Will covid-19 vaccines save lives? Current trials aren’t designed to tell us. It makes the point:

Peter Hotez, dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine in Houston, said, “Ideally, you want an antiviral vaccine to do two things . . . first, reduce the likelihood you will get severely ill and go to the hospital, and two, prevent infection and therefore interrupt disease transmission.”

Yet the current phase III trials are not actually set up to prove either.

We were told that the new COVID-19 vaccines are “95% effective in preventing symptomatic disease,” but it turns out that this is far less adequate than what most people would assume. The vaccine is “leaky.” A big issue is that the virus mutates, and the vaccine works much less well against the mutations. The world can never reach herd immunity if immunized people keep catching new variants of COVID-19 and keep passing them on, as the evidence now suggests.

[2] In a way, getting sick from a virus is helpful. It tells us to stay at home, away from others. It is the fact that humans experience symptoms from viruses that tends to limit their spread.

If a virus has severe symptoms, those infected with the virus will not feel well enough to continue their usual activities. They will tend to stay at home.

If the symptoms are mild, as is the case with the common cold, people will likely go about their activities as usual. This is especially the case if people need to work to feed their families. Thus, viruses with mild symptoms often spread easily.

But, if citizens feel that they are protected by a vaccine, they will likely continue to go about their activities as usual. Most of them will not realize that they might be spreaders of Delta, and perhaps other new COVID-19 variants. Symptoms are likely to be mild or non-existent.

[3] It is becoming clear that people immunized with today’s vaccines can both catch the delta variant and spread it to others.

As I mentioned above, the CDC concluded from looking at its analysis of 469 delta cases that the infection resulted in similarly high SARS-CoV-2 viral loads in vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals.

We have independent corroboration of the ability of vaccinated individuals to spread delta COVID-19 in a new analysis from Singapore. This article reports, “PCR cycle threshold (Ct) values were similar between both vaccinated and unvaccinated groups at diagnosis.” This is precisely the information that the CDC was relying on in Massachusetts when they reported that there were similarly high SARS-CoV-2 viral loads in vaccinated and unvaccinated people. While this analysis has not yet been peer reviewed, it reaches precisely the same conclusion with respect to early viral load as the Massachusetts analysis.

The data from this same Singapore study indicates that there are about 3 times as many asymptomatic cases in the vaccinated (28.2%) as the unvaccinated (9.2%). The median number of symptoms reported by the vaccinated was 1, compared to 2 in the unvaccinated. Among the vaccinated, the most frequent symptoms were fever (40.9%), runny nose (38%) and cough (38%). One of these symptoms, especially if it occurred only briefly, could easily be overlooked as a sign of COVID-19.

[4] With nearly all of the current vaccines, the immune system is trained to look for the spike protein from the original Wuhan virus. This narrow focus makes it relatively easy for the virus to mutate in ways that outsmart the vaccine.

A “History of Vaccines” website indicates that there are several ways vaccines are being made, including weakened (“attenuated”) viruses, killed viruses, and segments of the pathogen. In the new COVID-19 vaccines, a particularly limited part of the virus is used, the spike protein. In fact, in the newer vaccines, only an mRNA code is injected, and the body is instructed to make the spike protein itself.

Using a very narrow target has made it easier for viruses to evade the effects of the vaccine. Delta is one variant of the original virus from Wuhan that is evading vaccines through its mutations. Another such variant is Lambda, which caused serious problems in Chile in the spring of 2021, despite vaccine usage as high as 60%. The virus underlying all of these variants is called SARS-CoV-2, reflecting the fact that this virus is closely related to the virus which caused the 2003 SARS epidemic.

Since vaccination began about December 15, 2020, we have so far encountered two variants that are poorly controlled by vaccines. This is not a promising sign for the long-term success of COVID-19 vaccines. As more time goes on, we can expect more such variants. These variants do not necessarily stay around for more than a few months, making it difficult to create and distribute new specially targeted vaccines.

[5] Given the likelihood of mutations away from the narrow target, it seems strange that the governments have set very high expectations for the new vaccines.

It seems to me that Pfizer and Moderna should have said, “We are producing new vaccines that will somewhat lessen symptoms. In a way, they will be like the annual influenza vaccines that various companies make each year. We will need to update the vaccines regularly, but we will likely miss. Hopefully, our guess regarding what will work will be ‘close enough,’ so the vaccine will provide some partial benefit for the upcoming variations.”

Such a statement would have provided a more realistic set of expectations, compared to what many people have been assuming. No one would expect that herd immunity would ever be reached. The vaccines would be perceived as fairly weak tools that need to be used alongside medications, if they are to be used at all.

[6] Leaky vaccines, if widely used, can encourage the virus to mutate toward more virulent (severe) forms. Ultimately, the problem becomes viruses that mutate to more virulent forms faster than the vaccine system can keep up.

If, as we are seeing today, vaccinated people can catch the variant and pass it on to both vaccinated and unvaccinated people, this extra boost can help the variant tremendously in its ability to spread. This extra boost is especially helpful for the variants that are very virulent, since in the normal situation, people who catch a virulent variant would recognize that they are sick and stay at home.

There would normally be a limit on how much the variant could spread based on its impact on the unvaccinated. This limit goes away if both the vaccinated and unvaccinated can catch and spread the illness. Without a vaccine, the variants might be either more or less virulent, with the more virulent tending to die out because the people who get them either die or stay at home because they are very ill. I would expect that this is the reason why quite a few viruses tend to become less severe (virulent) over time, when leaky vaccines are not available to artificially boost their virulence.

The article, Vaccines are Pushing Pathogens to Evolve, gives the example of how the vaccines for Marek’s disease in chickens have been failing, as the disease gradually evolves to become more virulent under pressure from the vaccines being used to keep this illness away. The first vaccine was introduced in 1970. A decade later, outbreaks of Marek’s disease began to be found in vaccinated flocks. A second vaccine was licensed in 1983, but it too began to fail. When the article was written in 2018 the industry was on its third vaccine, but it too was beginning to fail, as the disease became more deadly. But there was no new vaccine yet available.

A 2015 article in PLOS Biology is entitled, Imperfect Vaccination Can Enhance the Transmission of Highly Virulent Pathogens. A person would think everyone involved in vaccine technology would be very much aware of this issue.

The chase after new vaccines is precisely the problem we can expect to have with the vaccines for COVID-19. Only, our problem with the vaccine not really working correctly is coming after a few months, not 10 years. Trying to keep up with new vaccines for a virus that evolves away from us, this quickly, is likely to be an impossible task. It is not just the unvaccinated who have a problem; it is everyone, as the vaccines quickly lose their effectiveness.

[7] Another potential problem with COVID-19 vaccines is Antibody Dependent Enhancement (ADE). When this occurs, it worsens later infections by different variants.

ADE is a rather strange condition in which the antibodies against one variant gained from a first infection (or immunization) act to make some later infections by a different variant worse, rather than better. Dengue Fever is an example of an illness for which this is an issue.

Dr. Robert Malone thinks that ADE may be happening now for COVID-19. He sees the high virus levels in immunized individuals as evidence of possible ADE.

The large number of immunized patients in the hospital with COVID-19 in Israel (which has mostly Delta cases) is also given as possible evidence:

Figure 1. Image from Israel’s official COVID-19 website, showing new hospitalizations and new severe patients separately for fully vaccinated, partially vaccinated, and unvaccinated individuals.

The illness SARS is closely related to COVID-19. There is evidence that vaccinations against SARS tend to produce ADE. In fact, the National Institute of Health provided funding for a 2020 academic paper that reaches the following conclusion:

The specific and significant COVID-19 risk of ADE should have been and should be prominently and independently disclosed to research subjects currently in vaccine trials, as well as those being recruited for trials and future patients after vaccine approval, in order to meet the medical ethics standards for informed consent.

[8] Another problem with the current vaccines against COVID-19 is that immunity may not last very long.

The virus that causes COVID-19 is a coronavirus. The common cold is another illness caused by a coronavirus. We know the immunity of the common cold doesn’t last very long, perhaps a year. While we don’t have long-term experience with COVID-19 vaccine immunity, we shouldn’t be surprised if its immunity begins to wane within a few months, or in a year or two.

Israel, after analyzing its recent COVID-19 experience (almost all with the Delta variant), is now offering anyone over 60 who was vaccinated more than 5 months ago a booster shot. Third doses are also being given to those with weakened immune systems.

It should be noted that if immunity doesn’t last very long, any strategy of “flattening the curve” by stretching out COVID-19 cases becomes counterproductive because it runs the risk of moving the timeframe of the next cycle beyond the time when natural (and vaccine-induced) immunity is still operative.

[9] The public has been led to believe that vaccines are the only solution to COVID-19 when, in fact, they are at best a very poor and temporary band-aid.

Vaccines are a tempting solution because the benefits have been oversold and no one has explained how poorly today’s leaky vaccines really work.

We are already past the period when these vaccines were well matched with the viruses they were aimed at. Now we are in a situation in which the viruses are constantly mutating, and the vaccines need to be updated. The catch is that the variants stick around for such a short time period that by the time the vaccine is updated, there is likely to be yet another new variant that the new vaccine does not really match up with well.

Requirements that employees be vaccinated against COVID-19 cannot be expected to provide much benefit to employers because workers will still be out sick with COVID-19. This happens because they are likely to catch a variant such as Delta, which does not line up with the original vaccine. Perhaps they will be out for a shorter period, and their hospital bills will be lower. These types of benefits are what people have expected of influenza vaccines. There is no reason for them to expect more of the new COVID-19 vaccines.

Even with 100% vaccination herd immunity can never be reached because the vaccine encourages the virus to mutate into more virulent forms. Each new variant stays around for only a few months, making it hard for vaccine makers to keep up with the changing nature of the problem. Vaccine makers can expect to face a constant battle in having to run to stay even. Someone will have to convince citizens that each new vaccine makes sense, even though injuries reported to the US Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System seem to be much more frequent than those reported for vaccines for other diseases.

An erroneous, one-sided story is being told to the general public, in part because the pharmaceutical lobby is incredibly powerful. It has the support of influential people, such as Anthony Fauci and Bill Gates. The pharmaceutical industry can make billions of dollars in income from the sale of vaccines, with little in the way of sales expenses. The industry has managed to convince people that it is OK to sell these vaccines, even though injury rates are very high compared to those for vaccines in general.

Vaccines are being pushed in large part because the pharmaceutical industry needs a money maker. It also wants to be seen as having cutting-edge technology, so young people will be attracted to the field. It cannot admit to anyone that technologies from decades ago would perhaps work better to solve the COVID-19 problem.

[10] The pharmaceutical industry has been telling the world that inexpensive drugs can’t fix our problem. However, there are several low-cost drugs that appear helpful.

One drug that is being overlooked is ivermectin, which was discovered in the late 1970s. It was originally introduced as a veterinary drug to cure parasitic infections in animals. In the U. S., ivermectin has been used since 1987 for eliminating parasites such as ringworm in humans. Ivermectin seems to cure COVID-19 in humans, but it needs a higher dosage than has been previously approved. Also, it would not be a money maker for the pharmaceutical industry.

The possible use of ivermectin to cure COVID-19 seems to have been intentionally hidden. At approximately 32:45 in this linked video, Dr. David Martin explains how Moderna announced ivermectin’s utility in treating SARS (which is closely related to SARS-CoV-2) in its 2016-2018 patent modification related to the SARS virus. It sounds as though Moderna (and others) have participated both in developing harmful viruses and in developing vaccines to cure very closely related viruses. They then work to prevent the sale of cheap drugs that might reduce their sales of vaccines. This seems unconscionable.

Vitamin D, in high enough doses, taken well before exposure to the virus that causes COVID-19, seems to lead to reduced severity of the disease, and may eliminate some cases completely.

Various steroid drugs are often used in the later stages of COVID-19, when conditions warrant it. The medical community seems to have no difficulty with these.

Monoclonal antibodies are also used in the treatment of COVID-19, but they are much more expensive.

[11] Conclusion. Governments, businesses, and citizens need to understand that today’s vaccines are not really solutions to our COVID-19 problem. At the same time, they need better solutions.

Current vaccines have been badly oversold. They can be expected to make the mutation problem worse, and they don’t stop the spread of variants. Instead, we need to start quickly to make ivermectin and other inexpensive drugs available through healthcare systems. People do need some sort of solution to the problem of COVID-19 illnesses; it just turns out that the current vaccines work so poorly that they probably should not be part of the solution.

The whole idea of vaccine passports is absurd. Even with the vaccine, people will catch the new COVID-19 variants, and they will pass them on to others. Perhaps they may get lighter symptoms, so that they will be off work for a shorter length of time, but there still will be disruption. If those who catch COVID-19 can instead take ivermectin at a high enough dose at the first sign of illness, many (or most) of them can get well in a few days and avoid hospitalization completely. Other medications may be helpful as well.

I am skeptical that masks can do any good with the high level of transmission of Delta. But at least masks aren’t very harmful. We probably need to go along with what is requested by officials.

It is becoming clear that today’s pharmaceutical industry is far too powerful. Investigations need to be made into the large number of allegations against it and its leaders. Why did members of the pharmaceutical industry find it necessary to patent viruses, and then later sell vaccines for a virus closely related to the viruses it had patented?

About Gail Tverberg

My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
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3,978 Responses to COVID-19 Vaccines Don’t Really Work as Hoped

  1. Mirror on the wall says:

    Witness are starting to line up to testify against uncle Andy. The ‘prince’ is accused of repeated child rape and battery in London, New York and the Caribbean. He denies that he ever met her but there is photographic and testimonial evidence to the contrary. It is unclear why authorities in London have failed to move as everyone is supposed to be equal before the law in UK. It was revealed earlier in the year that the ‘queen’ has been allowed for decades to illegally vet laws and to change them to suit her personal interests.

    The ‘prince’ refuses to cooperate with the FBI and with American lawyers and his ‘go to’ plan is to show complete contempt for the law and the courts. He remains incalcitrant, with the full support of his family. It is starting to look pretty clear that he is guilty as charged, a repeated child rapist and batterer who insists that he is above the law. He has been warned that a default judgement will be found against him by the Federal court and that he will be liable for cost of up to 100M.

    > Witness prepared to testify that he saw Prince Andrew groping Virginia Roberts

    A witness is prepared to swear on oath that he saw Prince Andrew groping Virginia Giuffre on Jeffrey Epstein’s “paedo island”. Steve Scully, Epstein’s former telecoms specialist, says he spotted the Duke kissing and grinding against a bikini-clad blonde by a pool “between 2001 and 2004”. Steve Scully, Epstein’s former telecoms specialist, says he spotted the Duke kissing and grinding against a bikini-clad blonde by a pool ‘between 2001 and 2004’ He insists the woman was Virginia — and is willing to give evidence in court for the first time.

    Earlier this week 38-year-old Virginia filed a civil lawsuit in the US claiming Andrew assaulted her in New York, London and the Caribbean when she was 17. Her lawyers were understood to want to speak to Steve, 71. He told The Sun on Sunday: “I was working on the phone and he (Andrew) was by the pool with Virginia. As soon as I saw him, I recognised him. I thought, ‘If I had a camera in my bag right now, I’d have a $50,000 picture’.” Steve says they were “bumping and grinding” for several minutes before lying on lounge chairs by the pool.

    In 2015 court papers, Virginia described an “orgy” on Little St James in the Caribbean with the prince. Steve, whose story was first revealed by The Sun on Sunday last year, says he later met Andrew, now 61, as the royal held hands with the woman on a pathway. He is convinced it was Virginia and was struck by how young she was, saying: “She stood like a kid would stand behind a parent.” Steve added: “Andrew’s protecting himself and his family.

    “If Virginia’s lawyers call, I will definitely speak to them and I would give a deposition under oath telling them what I saw. The nice thing about the truth is that it doesn’t change! There’s no question in my mind that I saw Prince Andrew and Virginia together and no question that he would remember the incident either. He should come clean.”

    Andrew is alleged to have forced Virginia to “engage in sex acts against her will” at Epstein’s Manhattan mansion in 2001, the lawsuit claims. It followed an alleged incident in which he sat with her and Johanna Sjoberg on his lap and groped her with his Spitting Image puppet. Virginia’s lawyer David Boies hinted this week that hairstylist Johanna, who lives in Florida, would provide testimony.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15871925/witness-prince-andrew-virginia-roberts-epstein/

  2. Fast Eddy says:

    DR. ZEV ZELENKO EXPOSES “GLOBAL GENOCIDAL EVENT”

    http://thephaser.com/2021/08/dr-zev-zelenko-exposes-global-genocidal-event/

    • Yorchichan says:

      Essential viewing for those vaccine recipients who want to give themselves a chance of avoiding near term death from ADE.

    • Dr. Zelenko says a lot of things that other people say. He also says that he believes that primary role of ivermectin is to help zinc get into the cells, so that the body’s immune system can take over and get rid of the virus. Hydroxychlorine would do something similar.
      He says quercitin is also a zinc delivery system. Quercitin has the advantage of not needing a prescription.

      VladamirZelenkoMD.com is his website (but my web shield says it is infected with a virus). He has a suggested protocol there. I didn’t get to the end, but it so far it doesn’t sound much different than FLCCC’s protocol, except he thinks that it is possible to do without prescription drugs completely.

  3. Fast Eddy says:

    1. “JAB OR JAIL”

    In the US, judges have started making getting vaccinated a condition of bail.

    Brandon Rutherford, a 21-year-old from Cincinnatti, was given a suspended sentence for possession of fentanyl, but the sentence came with a rider – he must get “vaccinated” against Covid19 in the next 60 days, or he will be sent to prison for eighteen months.

    This is not the first time this has happened.

    Last month another judge in Ohio made a similar ruling, offering a convicted defendant a choice between five years probation, or one year and a vaccine. Whilst in Louisiana, judges are offering to cut community service sentences in exchange for people getting the vaccines.

    A reminder that inducing the use of an experimental medical procedure, through either intimidation or coercion, is a breach of the Nuremberg Code on Medical Experimentation.

    https://off-guardian.org/2021/08/15/this-week-in-the-new-normal-2/

  4. Fast Eddy says:

    hey _____________ here are some of your Regurgitator Friends…

    https://off-guardian.org/2021/08/16/watch-trust-the-science/

    • Follow the “Science,” except that the only “Science” we are allowed to hear is a phony version of science that TPTB have decided it is suitable for us to hear. Climate change is our big environmental problem. The vaccines will solve all of our COVID-19 problems.

      • Mike Roberts says:

        So, how do you know of any other science? CC is certainly a big problem, as the latest report shows.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          According to the people who get grants from the government to tell us over and over that it’s a problem…. and that we are causing it…

          Then we are told the solution is to consume less and transition to solar panels…

          Of course as Gail has explained in another article… this is all about taking the simple minds of the masses off what is a REAL problem — peak oil.

          Apparently you missed that article — or you didn’t understand it?

          BTW Clarke — I have tried to find photo of The Nanny — there’s nothing … can’t find her name either … and then there was Jess stooping to ‘dismiss the rumours that you ban ged the nanny and had a love child with her’

          Did some of my tax money go into a fat hush fund for the nanny? Do you know where she is at?

          Can we get a photo – I heard she was Swedish or Norwegian … I bet she was smokin hot!!!

        • Tim Groves says:

          You seem to have a very high hurdle in place for reports of vaccine-related injury and death, Mike. Your skepticism there does you credit. But for CC you throw skepticism to the winds and embrace cult-like acceptance of the dogma.

          “Certainly a big problem”, you insist, on the basis of a report produced by people whose salary and funding depend on them saying precisely that, and who have been saying basically that for over thirty years now.

          I’m afraid you are going to need much better evidence that the latest report to convince us real skeptics of the reality of your claims. Remember, we have minds like bacon slicers.

  5. Fast Eddy says:

    “L.A. man stabbed when anti-vaccine protesters collide with suspected Antifa activists” – A man has been stabbed at a rally against mandatory vaccinations in Los Angeles after violent clashes broke out between demonstrators and suspected ‘anti-fascist’ counter-protestors, the New York Post.

    “Unmask them! Unmask them all!” One man can be heard yelling in the fighting, while another man passes by covered in blood from the skirmish.

    https://nypost.com/2021/08/15/la-man-stabbed-during-protest-over-covid-19-vaccine-mandate/

  6. Student says:

    About ‘tally’ and A. I would like to inform you that there are a couple of articles by Ugo Bardi on his blog:

    1) A.: The Twilight of the G. E.
    2) THE CASPIAN O. FEVER

    they are one after the other and they need to be read together. You can find them here:

    https://thesenecaeffect.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2021-08-01T07:41:00-07:00&max-results=15

    • Thanks for the reference to those articles. Their complete names are

      “Afghanistan: Twilight of the Global Empire,” and
      “The Caspian Oil Fever”

      I found reference to another article in the Afghanistan article, that I think is just as important.

      The Seneca Collapse of Bombing: What Happened to the Mighty Western Military Machine?

      https://thesenecaeffect.blogspot.com/2021/04/the-seneca-collapse-of-bombing-what.html

      I think that with the peak in oil and coal production, the major players are less and less able to afford the energy supplies indirectly required to fight wars. Now, it is becoming a major fight to keep the lights on.

  7. Fast Eddy says:

    There follows a guest post by former Google software engineer Mike Hearn.

    I just got back the south of France, flying from Switzerland. Myself and my fiancé visited Antibes and its local theme parks. The Pass Sanitaire came shortly before we arrived, so I got to see how it was doing on its first days of implementation.

    Polling from the end of July stated that about half of the French are opposed to the anti-pass protests, about 35% are supportive and about 15% are indifferent. How does it look on the ground? I decided to do a simple experiment to find out: always present an expired test even though I had a valid negative one, and see what happens.

    Over a four day stay I was required to show a valid pass exactly zero times; that includes at the airports in both directions. Compliance is absolutely min viable and often lower. At small businesses enforcement was non-existent: sometimes the pass requirement was ignored entirely, other times we were asked “do you have a pass” and our answer wasn’t checked.

    One restaurant had come up with a clever way to detect police stings without requiring customers to actually present a pass. As expected, enforcement was stricter by larger firms, however even there we saw the following:

    Test certificates being checked once and then swapped for a token that doesn’t expire.
    Expired tests being accepted.
    People accepting paper test certificates without scanning them.
    Scanning tests and then not looking at the screen to see the results.
    Accepting QR codes that failed to scan.
    We saw no evidence of compliance checks being done on businesses, although it was only a short stay. We saw only one person voluntarily present a pass when it wasn’t being requested, and that person was unsurprisingly quite elderly.

    https://dailysceptic.org/2021/08/16/postcard-from-france/

    • Interesting! Make a rule requiring proof of vaccination or a recent test result, but don’t really enforce it.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Imagine how many young people got the injection … because they were told they’d be allowed into the disco house….

  8. Fast Eddy says:

    We’re not entirely sure how many American Airlines, Inc. flight delays or cancellations on Sunday are due to labor shortages, but Twitter has erupted with furious customers across the US who blame entire crews for not showing up and resulting in travel disruptions.

    From Las Vegas to Miami to Charlotte and many other airports, passengers are fed up with the airline carrier. They’re venting their frustration on Twitter this afternoon.

    Twitter user Ryan Petrosso spoke of canceled flights at Las Vegas Airport. He shows a video of understaffed representatives.

    People are complaining entire airplane crews aren’t showing up as the labor shortage deepens. Many people are stranded at airports and will likely either get hotel vouchers tonight or have to sleep in the airport.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/get-your-shit-together-angry-american-airline-customers-hit-travel-delays-due-labor

    I can’t help but think .. that this has nothing to do with labour shortages…

    We just hired a customer service person — never in all my years have I seen so many CVs come through …. most of them were from airlines/travel industry people who had lost their jobs…

    A more realistic explanation is that this is intended to reduce air travel and control the oil burn

    • rufustiresias999 says:

      This is also my own private conspiracy theory. I know a family who made the trip from remote French Réunion Island to France mainland for summer holidays (about 5000 miles). The trip was planned early. The week before, Air France changed the flight day (no more flights every day as usually).
      And also, the airport police didn’t care very much about sanitary pass. Theoretically, you need a pass (Vax or covid recovery certificate) PLUS negative PCR test. The police barely looked at the certificates or didn’t at all. The purpose is not sanitary, the purpose is you renounce to fly.

      • DB says:

        Excellent insights, FE and Rufus!

      • Fast Eddy says:

        I am told in Hong Kong that although you need to injected to get into bars they never check…

        One wonders if they understand that enforcing this would bankrupt establishments so they use it as a threat to convince hesitant people to inject….

        Just as they promise they quarantine free travel — as NZ is doing now … but they always invent a reason why that can’t happen….

  9. Jarle says:

    Norway: All Covid-19 recommendations and restrictions to be removed next month (including no diff between vaccinated and thinking). What fresh hell is this?

  10. Fast Eddy says:

    People want to impose financial penalties

    Andy Slavitt, a former medical advisor for President Biden, believes that anyone unvaccinated should be required to be tested daily at their own expense until they finally give in.

    “Look, if people say they don’t want to be vaccinated, which some people might say, I think it’s perfectly reasonable to say that’s fine,” Slavitt told Anderson Cooper. “We want you to show up every morning an hour before work and get a negative test. Maybe even at your own expense.”

    Slavitt continued, “Until the point where people will say, you know what? It makes more sense to actually get vaccinated. If you give people that option, I think you’re going to see more and more people take the option to get vaccinated.” (source)

    Some employers are docking peoples’ paychecks, according to Forbes.

    …But the carrot approach is about to be joined by a stick that could cost employees up to $50 a month, according to Mercer, the large employee benefits consultancy that works with thousands of employers around the world.

    “Employers have tried encouraging employees to get vaccinated through offering incentives like paid time off and cash, but with the Delta variant driving up infections and hospitalizations throughout the country – at the same time that vaccination rates have stalled – we have received inquiries from at least 20 employers over the past few weeks who are giving consideration to adding health coverage surcharges for the unvaccinated as a way to drive up vaccination rates in their workforce,” said Wade Symons, Mercer’s regulatory resources group leader.

    Wesleyan College in West Virginia is charging an even more outrageous amount.

    The college recently released it’s [sic] campus arrival guidance for the fall. It states that students who aren’t vaccinated will be charged a non-refundable $750 COVID fee for the Fall 2021 semester. It also states that students who get COVID-19 and are unable to quarantine off campus will be charged $250 to finish their quarantine on campus. (source)

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/shocking-dehumanizing-discrimination-against-unvaxxd-about-make-life-very-difficult

    • Quite a few students will vote with their money. They will transfer to a different university.

      I know that Kennesaw State University (near me) saw a big increase in enrollment for the year starting August 2020 when it opened for classes (with only half of the students in the class room at a time, the others viewing the class remotely) and many other universities were entirely online. KSU started classes back at 100% capacity today, no vaccine requirement. I haven’t seen this year’s enrollment figures, but I expect that they will again be seeing an increase.

      The schools requiring vaccinations have overhead that they need to fund. Fewer students will be a problem. Even with the vaccinations, they will discover that they still will have students and faculty out sick with COVID-19. So they are not really very far ahead with the vaccination requirement.

  11. Fast Eddy says:

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/the-catastrophic-catalogue-of-vaccine-reactions/

    Updated Yellow Card report published by MHRA on August 13, covering reports up to August 4, 2021

    Pfizer: 20.8million people, 35.5million doses. Yellow Card reporting rate: 1 in 205 people impacted

    AstraZeneca: 24.8million people, 48.6million doses. Yellow Card reporting rate: 1 in 109 people impacted

    Moderna: 1.4million people, 1.9million doses. Yellow Card reporting rate: 1 in 111 people impacted

    Overall 1 in 137 people experience a Yellow Card Adverse Event after vaccination. This may be a reporting rate of approximately 10 per cent, according to MHRA.

    Reactions: 284,776 Pfizer; 806,489 AZ; 38,285 Moderna; 3,029 unknown. Total 1,132,579

    Reports: 101,483 Pfizer; 226,959 AZ; 12,569 Moderna; 1,003 unknown. Total 342,014

    Fatal: 486 Pfizer; 1,036 AZ; 10 Moderna; 27 unknown. Total 1,559

    Acute cardiac: 4,425 Pfizer; 8,964 AZ; 417 Moderna; 32 unknown. Total 13,838

    Myocardial infarction and heart failure: 219 Pfizer; 476 AZ; 11 Moderna; 6 unknown. Total 712

    • The mRNA spike protein “dose” in Pfizer’s vaccine is a lot lower than the dose in the other vaccines. Pfizer’s vaccine is also the one that doesn’t seem to be working well after five months in Israel, presumably because the low dose wears off more quickly.

      Look at the difference in reporting rates:

      Pfizer – 1 in 205
      AZ – 1 in 109
      Moderna – 1 in 111

      We have to compute the fatal ratio per injection.

      Pfizer – 486/35.5 million = 13.7 per million
      AZ – 1036/48.6 million = 21.3 per million
      Moderna – 10/1.9 million = 5.2 per million (Quantity is too small to tell much; quite variable)

      Also Acute Cardiac

      Pfizer – 4,425/35.5 million = 125 per million
      AZ – 8,964/48.6 million = 184 per million
      Moderna = 417/1.9 million = 219 per million

      Myocardial infarction and heart failure:

      Pfizer – 219/ 35.5 million = 6.2 per million
      AZ – 476/48.6 million = 9.8 per million
      Moderna – 11/1.9 million = 6.9 per million (Quantity is too small to tell much; quite variable)

      Total number of reports and Acute Cardiac have enough reports to start seeing clear patterns. Pfizer tends to have a lot fewer events reported than AZ and Moderna, relative to the injections given. If you want less chance of adverse reactions, go for Pfizer over the other two.

      Johnson & Johnson is not one included for sale in the area MRNA covers. I would expect its rates of adverse reactions (per injection) to be even higher. It uses a single, very high dose of mRNA spike proteins. I remember reading what the number was, relative to Pfizer and Moderna, but I don’t know if I could find it now. IIRC, it provides more mRNA in one dose, than two doses of the other vaccines. This is one of the reasons that it has a reputation for bad reactions.

  12. Tim Groves says:

    An ER doc recovering from Covid-19 is in a bed next to a 50-year-old man who is not recovering. The man asks the doc to be his “patient advocate”. The doc looks at his his paperwork and X-rays and finds that the attending physician has missed on three occasions the fact that the man has developed bacterial pneumonia. He tells the man and tells the nurse to tall the physician, but hours later the physician doesn’t come. No treatment—no antibiotics are given to the man. The doc complains and security guards whisk him away, put him in restrains and leave him in a solitary room at the hospital. He’s just gotten out of the hospital and is now talking about the ordeal and blowing the whistle.

    This is Sarasota Memorial Hospital and I assume there’s only one of them. Please watch the video and then phone them up to ask if the 50-year-old man (a widow with three kids) has been properly treated yet or do they want to be sue for aggravated manslaughter.

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/08/no_author/er-doctor-witness-at-sarasota-memorial-hospital/

  13. Fast Eddy says:

    Here in France it has gone to the extreme with the “Health” Pass.

    Last week on the 21st ALL restaurants, bars, coffee shops, and any leisure activities like sporting events, theaters, cinemas, museums, were closed to anyone without “the pass” and all staff at these places are mandated to get the jab to keep their job.

    t is now a 6 Month prison sentence if you are caught inside any of these places without the pass (the man who slapped the president in the face got only 3 months prison time). Business owners will get a fine of 45,000 euros and 1 year prison sentence if they do not comply with the use of “the pass” and force all their employees to get the jab. (If you know France, you can commit murder and have less of a sentence)

    So the result? All the low paid employees quit, they can make more on welfare here (for now). We can still technically “get take out food” but I just tried last night and every restaurant in our town (that is dine in with take out) has closed their doors due to the lack of staff.

    As of last week ALL doctors, nurses and health industry workers have been mandated to get the jab or lose their license, practice, job, business etc. (ALL health care here is Govt paid positions and there are no private health care Doctors or Hospitals etc.)

    Since the Health care system is state run and funded, it has been run into the ground. All the good doctors left France 5 Years ago, all the hospitals look like they are 3rd world hospitals since there is no money to repair them, half of the equipment doesn’t work and not every hospital is stocked with supplies needed for daily needs (masks, gels, disposable gowns etc).

    For 5 years Nurses have been understaffed and doing double the work because the Health care system is nearly bankrupt…. So add to this the mandatory jab.

    So the result? Well they took to the streets by the millions and now all the hospitals just lost another 50% of staff capacity.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/message-france

  14. Fast Eddy says:

    Two days later, Adams said, “Folks who don’t know how to wear them properly tend to touch their faces a lot and actually can increase the spread of coronavirus.”

    Less than a week earlier, on February 25, public-health authorities in the United Kingdom had published guidance that masks were unnecessary even for those providing community or residential care:

    “During normal day-to-day activities facemasks do not provide protection from respiratory viruses, such as COVID-19 and do not need to be worn by staff.”

    About a month later, on March 30, World Health Organization (WHO) Health Emergencies Program executive director Mike Ryan said that

    “there is no specific evidence to suggest that the wearing of masks by the mass population has any particular benefit.”

    He added,

    “In fact there’s some evidence to suggest the opposite” because of the possibility of not “wearing a mask properly or fitting it properly” and of “taking it off and all the other risks that are otherwise associated with that.”

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/do-masks-work-review-evidence

  15. TIm Groves says:

    I wonder if this link will work.

    The woman who runs NSW as if it was an orphanage filled with naughty children has had an injection, or so she says.

    However, look at the nurse. No gloves. No mask. Look at Gladys. No mask. No flinching. And look at the nurse’s fat forearm, blocking the injection site from view. And what’s that paper tag on the needle? Is this a special brew for the premier?

    https://www.tiktok.com/@gladysbutterchicken/video/6987715072843877633

    • Hubbs says:

      You can be sure ( or at least I am convinced, ) that NONE of these politicians, celebrities, govt paid academicians etc. are actually getting the “vaccine.” Virtue signaling hypocrites- all of them

      Vaccine for thee but not for me.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        I need to find a clinic that will Fake Inject me… just me and the nurse in the room …. and we squirt the Death Serum … into the bin… I’ll even pay in Gold for that…. I wonder what the response would be if I put a handful of gold coins on the desk….

  16. Fast Eddy says:

    Silent heavy fighting I guess…

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1426660529733578756

  17. Fast Eddy says:

    Almost as fake as the Covid Lie…. they seem to have taken the entire country without a single shot fired …

    I don’t imagine the CCP will be fooled by this — they know what’s coming

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/city-shock-taliban-enter-kabul-us-starts-evacuating-embassy-china-mocks-biden-over-complete

  18. Fast Eddy says:

    As of Sunday morning, 866,315 people in Israel had received the booster, while out of Israel’s population of some 9.3 million, over 5.8 million had received at least one vaccine dose, and more than 5.4 million had gotten two.

    I am thinking:

    https://youtu.be/j4JOjcDFtBE

    • Bei Dawei says:

      Time will tell, I suppose.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Wow — nearly 2M smashed CovIDIOTS…. this is progress!!!

        20,595 DEAD 1.9 Million Injured (50% SERIOUS) Reported in European Union’s Database of Adverse Drug Reactions for COVID-19 Shots

      • MickN says:

        “Time will tell just who has fell
        and who’s been left behind
        When you go your way
        and I go mine”
        BD – a long time ago

    • DJ says:

      20 000 dead is not that bad.
      If we had stopped at vaccinating only risk groups it would probably been a good tradeoff.

  19. Lastcall says:

    https://twitter.com/coevmo

    Overall deaths in Ireland for 2020, the big epidemic year, was same as 2018.
    Under 50, risk of dying is 0.002%; thats with Convid, not because of it.
    A 2 min vid

  20. Lastcall says:

    Obama just keeps giving back; this land for his legacy library I believe.

    ‘Daniel Burnham had the working class in mind when planned the City of Chicago and it’s widespread park system. Working class families did not and do not have the money to go out of town on vacation. The parks were and are badly needed. But the City jumped when Obama asked for the 29 acres. Not only did he get it but got it for a dollar. Sickening. And some of it is wetland. He is filling wetlands.”

    What straw will break the donkeys’ back?

    • Lastcall says:

      https://youtu.be/LfgSEwjAeno
      July 2014

      Income Inequality mentioned 26 times in speech by Obaba. Not at his recent bash thomethinks.
      He was a hoax on the scale of 911, the scamdemic, WMD…but not quite up with moondoggie.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        The best part of the fake moon landings has to be the loose panels and taped together pieces of the landing contraption … how much more obvious can it get than that…

        Yet even if you show a normdunc that…. they just dig in deeper…

  21. Artleads says:

    Hi Rodster, the article you recently posted about the CDC Camps elicited this response from a Facebook friend:

    “Still a Conspiracy Theory. Being spread by Russian Disinformation Hackers. Don’t repost it.”

    CAN YOU OR ANYONE ELSE SAY WHY THIS IS OR ISN’T THE CASE? THANKS! The link won’t post, btw.

  22. Artleads says:

    “Still a Conspiracy Theory. Being spread by Russian Disinformation Hackers. Don’t repost it.”

    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/global-covid-19/shielding-approach-humanitarian.html?fbclid=IwAR2pamfL5p4mhWJ8r-sBamtfKy9QDKG5L520aJIikSyolLidejcTRiJy0qc

    Does anyone else think this was spread by “Russian Disinformation Hackers”? I would like to avoid an argument and falling out with the person who posted the above if at all possible.

  23. nikoB says:

    I will let you know my other major concern with Covid. I have been studying cancer research for years now and I think that the metabolism hypothesis is the correct theory rather than the somatic theory. This theory basically says that the primary driver for pretty much all cancer is mitochondrial damage leading to respiration being shutdown and replaced by fermentation. This can be the result of chemical, radiation, virial, fungal and bacterial toxicity on the mitochondria usually through reactive oxygen species (ROS) doing the dirty work. The genetic mutation and oncological effects that follow are second order events not primary drivers. The disturbing thing is that covid drastically increases the ROS levels in the mitochondria. there are many many new papers discussing that ROS issue. They do not however link to cancer – that is my hypothesis. Time will tell but we may have huge increases in cancer to add to our problems. I have been watching some lectures by pathologists who are already noticing an uptick in cancer diagnosis. They do not know why. i hope that I am very wrong.

    • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

      any idea what effect the toxic spike protein vaccines have on ROS levels?

      • nikoB says:

        I think everything comes down to the spike. So natural infection or vaccine creates an issue. That said I think that the vaccine poses more of an issue as the spike protein seems to travel and accumulate in further reaches of your body. Particularly the ovaries for women.

        My advice in this would be that if you get infected or jabbed and get over it, go on a water fast for a week or calorie restricted strict ketogenic diet. That will turn your mitochondria over to ketone burning and the cells with injured mitochondria should be destroyed through autophagy.

    • Lastcall says:

      Mass injection of vaxxes began in 60’s I believe.
      The array of new dis – eases since then has been linked by some to the suppression of the ‘normal’ course of challenging childhood events.
      The lifestyle dis-eases of the western medico/food-pyramid/toxic chemical environs are perhaps long in gestation and unfathomable to the techno believers.

    • CTG says:

      Yes.. I have some anecdotes from oncologist that they are seeing a rise in cancer relapse cases for those who are vaccinated.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Love it!

        Just off the phone with the Help Line … prompted by the receipt of a package in the post urging me to Inject + telling me ‘no steps have been skipped in the safety process’

        I had a fabulous conversation with one of the clinical team … who confirmed the Injection is safe….

        She was however unable to answer my question about long term safety studies and acknowledged there were none…. but that MedSAFE and the govt would definitely not approve something that they thought might have long term side effects…

        I pointed her to the dengue fever that killed hundreds of kids before being terminated … and asked her if she thought the governments that approved that definitely believed it would be safe….

        We then shifted into the ethical issues with Injecting people with an experimental treatment that has no long term safety studies…. and that Pfizer is not on the hook if it goes sideways…

        I of course referenced the Nuremburg Code… which she was vaguely aware of …. I mentioned that some of the medical folks involved in those experiments gone a noose around their necks for their efforts….

        I can imagine that if she were employed at Auschwitz she’d have thought she was doing a fine job.

        And now I will burn the packet of paper in the Rayburn (with a few plastic bags) …. and wait to see what they will do with me as they increase the pressure on problematic individuals….

        • Lastcall says:

          Haven’t been to Doc for 30+ years.
          Don’t have a Primary Health Provider.
          Will they find me?

          • Fast Eddy says:

            I asked about that since I have delisted from the local clinic… they told me to contact the local health board if I wanted to terminate any further Injection notifications…

            There was an identifying number on corner of the document I received… I can’t recall the initials and it’s been burned in the Rayburn but I assume everyone has been tagged with one of these numbers

          • Yorchichan says:

            I have to be registered with a GP so I can have a medical every few years to check I am still healthy enough to be a taxi driver. (Basically £120 to have my blood pressure taken.)

            My first contact about the vaccine was a letter from my GP practice. They asked me to call them or write to them with my telephone number so they could call me to arrange a vaccination appointment. Despite ignoring the letter, a few weeks later I received a telephone call from the NHS asking me to make an appointment to be vaccinated. They didn’t get my telephone number from my GP, who didn’t have it, so how did they get it?

            I think they’ll find you. Even if they don’t, the problem comes if you need to show a vaccine passport to do anything. Would the solution be as simple as borrowing someone else’s phone or taking a screenshot of the vaccine passport on their phone?

            • Lastcall says:

              I figure I can weather the initial assault, say about next 6 months of arm twisting, and still be able to do most everything I need to.
              Then I will need about 6 months of projects to while away the time out of sight and out of mind, as the good ship Convid Cruiselines encounters the iceburg of harsh reality and the rulebook flies out the door.

              We should re-emerge into an environment not unlike the situation at the end of the witch hunts of yore. Sort of a massive techno hangover with dystopian rurally focussed mayhem.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              When they call me … I will promise to come be Injected if they can first email me the long term safety studies

  24. Bei Dawei says:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NebbMYtGbrU

    Michael Rosmer, who gives offshoring advice on YouTube, discusses how he approaches the question of whether to get the vaccine.

  25. Fast Eddy says:

    They are doing something … the only thing… exterminating us before Ripping of Phases starts

    https://youtu.be/7qGM9ypR-UI?t=4853

  26. Tim Groves says:

    Meanwhile, Japan is having its coldest and possibly its wettest August evah!

    According to the local weather info website:

    “Highest temperatures on the 16th are much lower than normal, more like September or October. Tokyo and other areas continue to be chilly.”

    https://tenki.jp/forecaster/s_ono/2021/08/16/13695.html

    Chilly is not an adjective usually associated with the summertime here. But actually, the whole country is cool, with Tokyo hitting a maximum of 22ºC, which is 10ºC below the seasonal average. This is very bad news for the tomatoes, cucumbers and paprikas, not to mention the rice, which should be ripening in the sun at this time of year.

  27. Fast Eddy says:

    Soooo…. met up with friends who were in town to ski for a week… as expected the Injection was discussed… wife hints that they are not on board with any of this … we take the bait and it turns into a good old Fauci CovIDIOT bashing session …. talk about needles in haystacks…

    The husband is a builder … he then raised 911…. initially he bought the story … but then he looked more closely at the towers falling and he thought… hang on that looks like explosive charges taking it down … how does a building ‘fall’ like that… it’s exploding …

    Two needles….

    So then … I go for the home run and mention the fake moon landings… you could sense that he thought that was going a bit too far… but he says send me links to what you have and I’ll check it out..

    Got a message earlier this morning saying … moon landings are so obviously faked… not sure how I could have gone all my life without realizing that…

    Serious horse power… Core-Level horse power…. respeck…

    https://clairepells.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/alig-giphy.gif

    • Fast Eddy says:

      This Tweet is misleading. Find out why health officials consider COVID-19 vaccines safe for most people.

      hahaha

    • “‘What we’re seeing post vaccine is a drop in your killer T cells, your CD8 cells. And what do CD8 cells do? They keep all other viruses in check.'”

      They are now seeing a big jump in other viruses that the killer T cells used to be keeping in check.

      This sounds like a good tweet to send back to my health care system to explain why I have no intention of getting this vaccine.

    • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

      “2 doses of Phyza jab lowers neutralising antibodies 5-6 fold.

      Essentially it wipes out your immune system making you dependent on booster shots in perpetuity.”

      experimental mRNA vaccines… and the experiment failed.

    • This is very concerning as well.

      If the aim of those making the vaccines was to raise the future death rate, getting rid of killer T cells sounds like a way to do it.

      • Azure Kingfisher says:

        This is where things get interesting.

        Was this drop in killer T cells, courtesy of the “vaccines,” an unforeseen accident? A result of “Warp Speed” corner cutting? Or was it a deliberate aim of the manufacturers?

        • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

          or was it from Hope in Progress?

          mRNA vaccine technology was the latest greatest thing, so it just HAD TO BE better than all previous types of vaccine.

          so to the inventors, of course they didn’t have to do much testing, because they had just invented the greatest type of vaccine EVER.

          and there should be no worries about long term health effects, because they had just invented the greatest type of vaccine EVER.

          this kind of historic PROGRESS should be acknowledged for its truly great achievement for all mankind. (fyi total sarc).

  28. Fast Eddy says:

    Open Letter to the Unvaccinated

    You are not alone! As of 28 July 2021, 29% of Canadians have not received a COVID-19 vaccine, and an additional 14% have received one shot. In the US and in the European Union, less than half the population is fully vaccinated, and even in Israel, the “world’s lab” according to Pfizer, one third of people remain completely unvaccinated. Politicians and the media have taken a uniform view, scapegoating the unvaccinated for the troubles that have ensued after eighteen months of fearmongering and lockdowns. It’s time to set the record straight.

    It is entirely reasonable and legitimate to say ‘no’ to insufficiently tested vaccines for which there is no reliable science. You have a right to assert guardianship of your body and to refuse medical treatments if you see fit. You are right to say ‘no’ to a violation of your dignity, your integrity and your bodily autonomy. It is your body, and you have the right to choose. You are right to fight for your children against their mass vaccination in school.

    Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi Interview: COVID Vaccine Blood Clot Risk Was Known, Ignored & Buried
    You are right to question whether free and informed consent is at all possible under present circumstances. Long-term effects are unknown. Transgenerational effects are unknown. Vaccine-induced deregulation of natural immunity is unknown. Potential harm is unknown as the adverse event reporting is delayed, incomplete and inconsistent between jurisdictions.

    You are being targeted by mainstream media, government social engineering campaigns, unjust rules and policies, collaborating employers, and the social-media mob.

    You are being told that you are now the problem and that the world cannot get back to normal unless you get vaccinated.

    You are being viciously scapegoated by propaganda and pressured by others around you. Remember; there is nothing wrong with you.

    You are inaccurately accused of being a factory for new SARS-CoV-2 variants, when in fact, according to leading scientists, your natural immune system generates immunity to multiple components of the virus. This will promote your protection against a vast range of viral variants and abrogates further spread to anyone else.

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/letter-unvaccinated/5752287

    I wonder how the restaurants are doing with half the population not Injected in France… Italy….

    Automatically there goes a third of your customers .. then keep in mind CovIDIOTS live in fear of dying from Covid (even though they have been Injected!)… so expect many of them to avoid restaurants (even though everyone in the restaurant is a CovIDIOT and Injected)

  29. Artleads says:

    I posted the CDC article on Facebook, and got this imperious response from somebody I like a lot and have thought to be indispensable to the conservative end of nation building work I see to be done. (Maybe no one is indispensable.)

    “Still a Conspiracy Theory. Being spread by Russian Disinformation Hackers. Don’t repost it.”

    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/global-covid-19/shielding-approach-humanitarian.html?fbclid=IwAR2pamfL5p4mhWJ8r-sBamtfKy9QDKG5L520aJIikSyolLidejcTRiJy0qc

  30. Marco Bruciati says:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7qGM9ypR-UI&feature=share. Please look minute 1.16.00 colon Campbell was very very right….. financial collapse Is very likely

    • This is a movie from 1973.

      It is very logical that a financial crash would happen from an oil crash. Financial wizards have been finding ways to pump more and more debt into the economy, staving off a financial crash for a while. We don’t know how long they will be successful, however.

      • Marco Bruciati says:

        After 1973 no One did a new video….and now changed a lot of things…peak oil was 2005….and no news…no new video….no idea for future??

  31. James Speaks says:

    A lot of discussion about Afghanistan leads me to think there is a similarity to the way the COVID vaccine-like disaster has played out. We live in a world where technological prowess is supposed to remove all perils, and we try repeatedly and fail each time. Conclusion: technological prowess cannot solve all our problems.

    We could not use technologically advanced airpower to bomb Afghanistan back to the Middle Ages because Afghanistan was already there. We can not use leaky vaccines to solve the COVID problem because Nature is more advanced than we are.

    A sane COVID policy goes like this.
    1) Everybody is likely to get it.
    2) Elderly and vulnerable people should take the vaccine to lessen the impact on themselves.
    3) People under 60 and over 18 should wear masks when around other people in order to slow or hamper transmission. Bugs that kill rapidly burn themselves out while bugs that don’t kill and are mild enough to allow the infected to work etc tend to be milder b/c they can stay infectious in an individual longer.. This is why we should wear masks; to do the opposite to the virus that we are doing with leaky vaccines.
    4) Let kids get it and get over it.

    • I agree technological progress is not going to solve all problems. There seems to be other wars that we did not win with our techonology. Viet Nam and Iraq come to mind.

      Your COVID policy sounds sort of like what is being done for influenza. No one pushes the vaccine for influenza very hard, except for the elderly and those in poor shape to begin with. Influenza is back every year, in a different form. No one would claim the vaccine does very much, either.

      I am afraid that COVID will be like influenza. We will have a different variety every year. Antibodies will not be good enough to protect the next time around. Having a coronavirus (like the common cold) often doesn’t lead to long-lasting immunity.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        This is why when all else fails the way forward is all out nuclear bombardment… I’d let the Tally’s take the country … enjoy their moment in the sun ….

        Then Rain the Bombs on their Parade.

      • James Speaks says:

        The importance of wearing masks is this: If mask use is widespread, on the average a particular strain is going to have to stay infectious (shedding) longer. Virulent strains that kill quickly do have as much of a chance as less virulent strains that let the inbfected and shedding person stay in circulation. It’s the opposite of using leaky viruses.

        Masks do not prevent me from catching a new variant, but they apply pressure on the variuous strains to stay infectious longer which means become less virulent.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Just because you make stuff up … does not mean it’s real

          • James Speaks says:

            Does not compute. I’ve known for a very long time (>50 yrs) that “…On the other hand, mutations that make a virus more deadly may not give the virus an opportunity to spread efficiently.”

            As night follows day, a more virulent virus will burn out faster. Wearing masks reduces transmission and increases the average time between infections. Ergo, ibid, et cetera, exempli gratia, inter alia and excelsis Deo, wearing masks leads to less virulent strains, or does logic escape you as a matter of course?

            It takes very little brainpower to scan the Web, report on findings that glorify the extreme and then rant in semi-comprehensible prose, but that is not thinking.

            QED, EMDW and duh.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              But James… you forgot something … the part where it is a very bad idea to deploy a leaky vaccine during a pandemic… apparently that is a bad idea

    • Artleads says:

      “2) Elderly and vulnerable people should take the vaccine to lessen the impact on themselves.”

      What impact on themselves? They get the vaccine, and dollars to doughnuts, they die very soon after. Unless you believe that numerous older people never previously deemed ill dropping dead is fake news?

      • Fast Eddy says:

        “2) Elderly and vulnerable people should take the vaccine to lessen the impact on themselves.”

        If the ultimate purpose of the vaccines was to eliminate the old chronically ill… would anyone have a problem with that?

        • James Speaks says:

          I was referring to Sputnik V which I was unable to get, or the slightly more dangerous Janssen adenovirus vector vaccines.

          Administer the mRNA jabs to the elderly only after they have remembered you in their wills.

        • Artleads says:

          The assumption is that the fittest should survive. But that is old fashioned thinking. It is the most adaptable (thanks, Gail) that must survive. Young people want to prance around and use up very scarce energy. Old, sick people, not so much.

    • Mike Roberts says:

      That’s fairly reasonable. However, as COVID-19 kills, your supposition that bugs which kill rapidly burn themselves out isn’t correct – COVID-19 has been around for nearly two years and is still going strong with over 600,000 new confirmed cases and 10,000 deaths each day. Also, I’m not sure about limiting the vaccines to over 60s and vulnerable. Flattening the curve was an attempt to avoid overwhelming health services (not always successfully) and vaccines could be seen as having the same goal. So there could be good reason to have the majority of adults vaccinated. I’d like to see more data on that, though.

      • There really are other approaches than vaccines that could be used. The pharmaceutical companies don’t want us to know about them.

        • Mike Roberts says:

          I’m sure that there are. It’s amazing that the robust trials we need to determine the efficacy of the treatments has not yet been done. However, for whatever reason, the work that needs to be done is not being done so it seems we are left with the vaccines or nothing. At least for now. In that reality, vaccines do at least reduce severity and deaths.

          • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

            perhaps vaccines help for a few months until efficacy goes down to about zero.

            long term might be destroyed immune systems and ADE, permanent organ damage from microclots, and possible irreversible prion disease.

            it’s NOT “vaccines or nothing” since there is widespread info on treatments.

            good luck with your vaccine roll of the dice.

            meanwhile I’ll roll the dice with “nothing”.

          • Lastcall says:

            Pretty robust results in some states of India with very available, very cost effective, very impressive Ivermectin.
            Not scientific enough I guess…
            Science as a a belief system would confound the true scientists of yesteryear. Humboldt, Darwin, Newton, ..characterised by open minds.

            • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

              and ZERO robust studies of possible long term health destruction caused by the experimental mRNA toxic spike protein vaccines.

              how many years until we get those ROBUST studies?

      • Mike Roberts says:

        From a NewScientist article:

        What’s more, Bloom and his colleagues have shown that vaccines tend to elicit a wider range of the most effective antibodies, the ones that bind to those key parts of the spike protein, than infection does. In other words, it might be harder for the virus to escape vaccine-induced immunity than natural immunity.

        In addition to evading immunity, new variants could also become more deadly. While it is often said that viruses evolve to cause milder disease, this is no longer thought to be the case. On the contrary, there are several reasons to think SARS-CoV-2 could become more lethal.

        For starters, people with covid-19 are most infectious just before symptoms appear, so causing more severe disease has little effect on the virus’s chance of spreading.

        Some studies suggest that variants such as delta are also evolving the ability to spread directly from cell to cell, rather than via the blood, enabling them to dodge antibodies. This process can cause cells to fuse together, seriously damaging tissues.

        “This would be consistent with increased cell-to-cell spread leading to higher virulence,” says Shan-Lu Liu at the Ohio State University. However, his team has only demonstrated this type of spread in the lab, not in infected individuals, he cautions.

        Another reason why some viruses evolve to cause milder infections is because they become optimised to target our upper airways, as pointed out by Amalio Telenti at Scripps Research and his colleagues in a recent paper in Nature. In the upper airway, viruses shed by cells are much more likely to be breathed out and infect others, when compared with viruses that zero in on our lungs. But the receptor targeted by SARS-CoV-2 is also present lower down in the respiratory system, so this doesn’t apply.

        • Lastcall says:

          However, his team has only demonstrated this type of spread in the lab, not in infected individuals, he cautions.

          ‘Only in lab..’
          You must try harder next time.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            What I don’t understand is how someone who swallows the Covid Lie hook line and sinker … is doing on OFW.

            How did they find OFW? Generally seriously st ____ d people don’t find sites like this ..

            And why do they persist? … and if they do they get humiliated so many times and exposed as s ___d … that they soon head for friendlier pastures…

            Even mother has questions _____’s lack of logic… and mother is usually very tolerant of MoreONS….

            • Bei Dawei says:

              Some of us came for the discussion of economic collapse, not for the Covid stuff.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Do I need to post the CEP again? Covid is simply the end game of peak oil….

            • Mike Roberts says:

              As Bei said, most people probably found this site because they were interested in limits and how the finite nature of our planet might play out. One would hope, though, that any subject could be treated with seriousness here.

            • Azure Kingfisher says:

              Perhaps Mike is here on assignment from one of the three-letter agencies. They noticed that there’s too much truth being shared on this site and sent Mike in to shepherd everyone back into the fold.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              _____ is not doing a very good job … he is at risk of losing his troll position …

              ___ what will you do if you get fired? If you can get to Hong Kong I’ll give you a job cleaning our office toilets…. there are both men’s and women’s.. do you think you can handle both?

              Send your CV to FastEddy@FastEddyEnterprises.com

            • DB says:

              Why would anyone expect COVID not to be a topic of discussion here when our gracious host writes posts on it (in fact, THIS ONE!) and makes comments about it as well?

              And as far as I can tell, many commenters who criticize the COVID commentary also make comments about non-energy topics.

              What about live and let live, read what you want, and ignore the rest?

          • Mike Roberts says:

            As if that is the only point. As if science can’t be done except in human bodies. Sheesh! Some of the treatments touted by bloggers were first shown to have efficacy in vitro. That particular point is that there is a way for the virus to spread from cell to cell. To think that this could only happen in a lab is naive.

        • T.Y. says:

          The article in question that is claiming the broader antibody response following vaccination is actually this one: https://stm.sciencemag.org/content/13/600/eabi9915

          if you scroll down to the “acknowlegdements and funding” section it says: “this study was funded by the NIAID, NIH (R01AI141707 and R01AI127893 to J.D.B., T32AI083203 to A.J.G., and F30AI149928 to K.H.D.C.); the Gates Foundation (INV-004949 to J.D.B. and INV-016575 to H.Y.C.); an Emergent Ventures Award (to H.Y.C.); the NIH Office of Research Infrastructure Programs S10OD028685 (to the Scientific Computing Infrastructure at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center); and the Howard Hughes Medical Institute (to J.D.B.). ”

          In other words; Fauci & Gates, both heavily promoting vaccines and with various conflicts of interest in this matter, have funded this study.

          Meanwhile below are a few papers of why natural immunity should not be discounted. I think there are newer and better papers out, but i haven’t gotten round yet to check them out.

          https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3563

          https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.26.115832v1

          So Mike, tell me; why do you use papers with serious conflicts of interest to build your case ? Surely there are better references ?

          • Mike Roberts says:

            T.Y. It’s great that you’re checking these. Whether there is a serious conflict of interest there is a matter of opinion. I don’t see a vaccine company in that list. You may not trust the motives of the NIAID, the NIH, the Gates foundation or any of the other funders but I don’t dismiss it out of hand, as you do. There were some interesting points in the article, so I shared it.

            • T.Y. says:

              Ahh, dear Mike, you took the bait….and now i have you on the hook…

              You see Mike, i deliberately only posted PART of the disclosure section. To give you a fair chance to check it out.
              Immediately below the section on funding there is a section on ‘competing interests’. If you had bothered to check – what most people would do when confronted with such evidence – you would have noticed this little snippet of information and dropped your support for the paper like a hot rock:

              “Competing interests: Subsequent to completion and submission of the initial version of this study, J.D.B. began consulting for Moderna on viral evolution and epidemiology. J.D.B. and K.H.D.C. have the potential to receive a share of IP revenue as an inventor on a Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center–optioned technology/patent (application WO2020006494) related to deep mutational scanning of viral proteins. H.Y.C. is a consultant for Merck, Pfizer, Ellume, and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and has received support from Cepheid and Sanofi-Pasteur. ”

              Instead you come back to report: “don’t see any vaccine company in that list”. “matter of opinion” whether there is a conflict of interest….hahahahaha….

              So Mike: perhaps you can now inform OFW readership about a few small conflicts of interest that you might have ?

            • DB says:

              Fantastic, T.Y.! Thank you for your contribution and demonstration.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Afghanistan is not a failure… when the facts change … smart people change their minds..

      The US has determined that the best way to oppose the CCP is to unleash the Tally Boys on them…

      Notice how the Tally’s are cruising around in US vehicles… I even read that they were flying US helicopters…. hmmm… who trained them to fly helicopters????

      Notice how the Tally Boys have faced virtually ZERO opposition from the Afghan army? They’ve just waltzed into the major cities in a matter of weeks…..

      This is a brilliant move …. it’s a Big Boy move… the CCP are brain dead moreons… this is like Lebron James holding a ball over pee wee herman’s head and telling him to try and take it….

      https://youtu.be/8xTqP58o1iw

      • Azure Kingfisher says:

        A very interesting theory, FE. I suppose we’ll have to wait and see how the Tally and the CCP get along. Could they form a productive partnership to the US’s detriment?

        CCP: “Tally, I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship.”

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Problem is the CCP has the Tally’s mates in a concentration camp … the justification is that the Oegers want to separate from China… and they were killing Chinese….

          I suspect the Tally Boys would prefer to be friends with the Americans… because they have a common enemy…

  32. Ed says:

    I have just come to the realization that health passports can be used to implement many things the left will hate. For example a woman maims her first born with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome. The passport can say no entry to a bar or liquor store without proof of non pregnancy.

    • Bei Dawei says:

      Cue Drudge story about some woman waves her bloody tampon in response.

    • I am not sure about this. When I look at the CDC site on this subject, I see:

      The term FASDs is not meant for use as a clinical diagnosis.

      Diagnosing FASDs can be hard because there is no medical test, like a blood test, for these conditions. And other disorders, such as ADHD (attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder) and Williams syndrome, have some symptoms like FAS.

      The website also says:

      To prevent a child from having an FASD, a woman should not drink alcohol while she is pregnant, or might be pregnant. This is because a woman could get pregnant and not know for up to 4 to 6 weeks.

      Somehow, to implement this policy you really will need to know whether an older child had fetal alcohol syndrome, which is subjective. The woman often cannot know if she is pregant, either. You would need to require urine specimens to test for pregnancy, and even then you might miss, because the urine test misses very early pregnancies.

      The other side of this is the poor child, who is labeled as having Fetal Alcohol Syndrome. What kind of life is he/she going to have? What kind of job can he/she get? Is this something a person wants to be labeled with? Or will prisons say, “xx% of our prison population has fetal alcohol syndrome?”

      • Ed says:

        Strong cases of FAS are easy to see on the face of the victim.
        1) small eye opening and epicanthal folds
        2) depressed bridge of nose
        3) small up turned nose
        4) no ridge valley ridge between the noose and upper lip, smooth thiltrum
        5) thin upper lip
        6) depressed checks relative to normal

        with an x-ray or cat scan brain development reduced in size.

        https://i.imgur.com/vNaqEA6.jpg

  33. Minority of One says:

    It would seem that Aberdeen is way ahead of the curve regarding UK house prices. I have mentioned before that there seem to be a lot of properties for sale here, especially flats where there can be dozens for rent or sale in one smallish street. Most streets that are all houses have one or two for sale.

    We had friends round for breakfast yesterday, where someone said a house close to theirs (West End, close to city centre, i.e. top location) that was bought for £550,000 about 7 years ago, sold for £350,000 this past week. There must be a few people sitting on negative equity now.

    The oil industry is done, and where the oil industry goes, property prices follow. At least here in Aberdeen, “The oil capital of Europe” (there is sign on a roundabout here that still says that).

  34. Minority of One says:

    A couple of interesting CV19 graphs courtesy David Stockman.

    The first shows Sweden CV19 daily deaths per million now at zero.
    https://www.davidstockmanscontracorner.com/sweden-at-zero-covid-q-e-d/

    The second shows CV19 daily deaths per million history, Sweden v Germany, and how this varies with medical mask mandates in Germany. For nearly all of this year, death rate higher in Germany.
    https://www.davidstockmanscontracorner.com/mind-the-science/

  35. Minority of One says:

    Re Afganistan. An indication of just how fast things have moved there. This article is from last weekend’s ‘i’ newspaper, UK:

    Taliban take control of first Afghan provincial capital in sustained offensive
    https://www.independent.co.uk/asia/south-asia/afghanistan-taliban-zaranj-mujahideen-herat-b1898252.html

    “The Taliban have captured their first provincial capital after a sustained offensive, following the hasty and contentious departure of US-led international forces from Afghanistan.”

    Then during the past week, the UK govt sent in 600 troops to Kabul to assist removal of 4,000 UK citizens. Then on the radio today, I hear that various parts of Kabul are already under Taliban control and the fall of the city is imminent. One week. That was quick and easy, for the Taliban.

    No-one should be surprised by this though. Two excellent journalists at the ‘i’ newspaper, Robert Fisk (who died last November) and Patrick Cockburn, have been reporting ever since the invasion of Afghanistan, about the corruption throughout the ranks, and utter incompetence, of the Afghani armed forces. The army tend to either get easily overwhelmed, or run for it, when attacked. The senior officers claim that there are many more troops than there really are, and pocket the pay for the phantom soldiers (provided by USA tax payers). In one story from a few years ago, a particularly bleak one, some UK soldiers were bitterly enraged when they saw a couple of Afghan soldiers grab a boy off the street to sexually abuse him. The UK soldiers were told to turn a blind eye to such disgraceful behaviour.

    I am not sure that providing a properly trained and disciplined army was ever possible in Afghanistan, but I get the impression that Western forces did not come close to achieving such.

  36. Hubbs says:

    I always listen very carefully to John Titus. Always.

    • John Titans shows video clips of very influential individuals.

      Larry Fink of Blackrock Investments (controlling $9 7 trillion in assets) says that big players want certainty, such as they get from a totalitarian government, not governments that flip back and forth.

      Augustin Carstens, General Manager of Bank of International Settlements, wants absolute control over all of the world’s financial transactions through central bank digital currencies. If you want to buy a cheese burger, his organization will decide if your social credit score is high enough. John Titans believes the world digital currency system is still three to four years off.

      The thing that stands in the way of the BIS’s plan is the fact that countries have a split circuit financial system. The various central banks inject money into the wholesale monetary system; the money that we individuals use comes from the retail monetary system. The BIS wants control of the world retail monetary system, so it can have absolute control.

      I haven’t gotten all the way through the video, but I think John Titans is on to something. Whether these big power holders can consolidate power in their own direction, without the whole thing falling apart, would seem rather iffy to me. They certainly seem likely to want to try.

      • Minority of One says:

        “John Titans believes the world digital currency system is still three to four years off.”

        Difficult to believe that there is that much time left before the global financial system implodes. But who knows with the financial wizards in charge, they have done pretty well up to now.

      • vbaker says:

        9.7 Trillion? The investors want certainty? Right, so trillions makes totalitarianism occur.

        Its always nice to be reminded just what is causing all this.

  37. Hubbs says:

    I don’t know this person being interviewed by Jan, but I do read Epoch Times. I think there is some truth however to the use of migrants as a weapon of economic cannon fodder.

    It seems once again, the promise of the internet “information age” has a dark side to it in that it spreads false aspirations and disinformation among economic climbers, and enables a fiat/fractional reserve currency replete with financial wealth concentrators to go into hyperdrive.

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/michael-yon-the-incentives-that-caused-a-global-migrant-crisis-from-lithuania-to-the-darien-gap_3948882.html?utm_source=ATLNewsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2021-02-19

    He spells it all out starting around 47:50

  38. Mirror on the wall says:

    The world is a flux and such shall it remain so long as it exists.

    CCP has responded to some Western posturing that the collapse of the USA proxy government in Afghanistan is somehow a failure for China and not the USA. ‘LOL, I do not think so.’

    It will be most interesting to see how CCP-Afghanistan relations develop in the coming years. CCP has certain benefits in that it has an historical materialist perspective on ideology and foreign policy. It eschews a dogmatic ideological approach, and has no need to tell other countries how to run themselves or what values they ‘should’ have. It is really up Afghans what government they have, just as it is up to the Taliban what values they have. There is no need for CCP to entangle themselves in Afghanistan’s domestic affairs, let alone like USA did with the establishment of a ‘liberal democratic’ proxy government. CCP is not completely insane.

    Simply do not proxy-ise in Afghanistan – likewise do not occupy the place. No one is forcing countries to repeat the errors of others. CCP has made clear that it will never, ever get entangled in Afghanistan in the way that USA has. CCP wants to accept Afghanistan as a stable, economic partner. It will either become one or it will not. That in no way makes CCP responsible for the functionality of Afghanistan. Simply do not commit anything to there that CCP cannot do without; build in redundancy so that there are always other options if Afghanistan fails to perform. Base ties entirely on mutual interest so that Afghans are incentivised to perform.

    If Afghanistan is to become a stable, independent country, then it has to be allowed to do that by itself, and in its own way. If it is to have stable and profitable relations with other countries then it has to be because it chooses to do that and because it is mutually beneficial to do so. It is really up to Afghanistan. The world is a big place with a lot of different players. Some perform better than others, and some can perform better than they now do, while some will not. It is really up to them. CCP is happy to cooperate with countries and to help them get themselves together through mutually beneficial investments, but it is really up to them whether they do or not. Either way, CCP will always have other options and will never get bogged down in other countries like USA.

    > US, not China, faces ‘awkward reality’ in Afghanistan

    …. Reuters on Sunday published an analysis titled “As Taliban advances, China lays groundwork to accept an awkward reality.” It alleged that the Taliban’s growing momentum is “awkward” for China. This report ignores the fact that, China has for many years adhered to the principle of non-interference in Afghanistan’s internal affairs.

    When Chinese State Councilor and Foreign Minister Wang Yi met with the visiting delegation led by head of the Afghan Taliban Political Commission Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar in Tianjin on July 28, Wang reiterated China’s hope that the Afghan Taliban will put the interests of the country first, hold high the banner of peace talks, set the goal of peace, build a positive image, and pursue an inclusive policy.

    Totally unlike the US, China has a friendly image in Afghanistan. Therefore, China will not be an enemy of either party in Afghanistan, and neither party will make China an enemy. There is no “awkward” reality for China at all.

    When analyzing the situation in Afghanistan, some observers noted that China has many cards to play. However, the truth is that China does not want to play any cards in Afghanistan, nor does it want to seek any geopolitical expansion as reported by some Western media outlets.

    The fact is Washington will leave Afghanistan in tatters, caused by its 20-year-long war. It also proves that Washington is an “unreliable partner” that always abandons its partners or allies to seek self-interest. Those countries that rely on the US for security should understand from the current predicament in Afghanistan that the US only makes false promises and cares about its own interest.

    Western media outlets are fond of playing up the relationship between China and the Taliban, while playing down China’s solution to the Afghan issue. They know the US has sunk into the quagmire of the “graveyard of empires” and now they hope that China will get stuck there too.

    Why is the Taliban able to regain its momentum despite 20 years of suppression and assault by the US government? Because the US’ Afghanistan policy has not only failed to win the recognition and support of vast Afghans, but also it has invisibly helped expand the foundation of public support for the Taliban.

    Many US politicians wishfully think that China will intervene in the Afghanistan issue, and they hope that China will eventually get trapped in Afghanistan like the US and its Western allies, consuming a lot of Chinese manpower and material resources.

    The fact is that China will never intervene in Afghanistan in the way the US has done in the past 20 years. Instead, China has offered constructive suggestions that are totally different from the US approach, and that may lead to results the US approach can never achieve. This has made many American politicians very upset, feeling like a heavy slap in the face of the so-called US global leadership that its Western allies are proud of.

    https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202108/1231515.shtml

    • Ed says:

      So the CCP foreign policy is much like John F Kennedy’s foreign policy. Good.

    • Malcopian says:

      Why are you copying articles in full when you are giving a link to them, Mirror? All we need is an extract with the flavour of the article, then we can follow the link if we are interested.

      • Mirror on the wall says:

        I tend to quote as much or as little as I think is pertinent and illuminative.

        If you do not want to read a lengthy extract then just scroll past it – problem solved.

        • Malcopian says:

          No, I think you should do as Harry “McGibbs” does. It’s far more efficient. For your cheek, I’m exiling you to Aberdeen as a punishment.

          • Mirror on the wall says:

            Calm down, dear.

          • Tim Groves says:

            Calm down dear.

            What’s wrong with letting Harry post as he sees fi, letting Mirror post as he sees fit, letting Eddy and Norman and everyone else do their thing as they see fit. What’s the downside to that?

            Where does this compulsion to tell other posters how to act, what format to use, which subjects are on or off topic—where does this compulsion come from? And why are ones own pettty irritations considered justification enough for expressing an opinion about HOEW OTHERS SHOULD BE BEHAVING?

            Whoops, accidentally put on the CAPS LOCK there! Thousand apologies for that.

            Efficiency is over-rated. The constant unmitigated quest for more of it is what has gotten the world into the mess it is currently in. We were so much more laid back when we relied on donkey carts and carrots and sticks to get them to go where we wanted.

            Wear and tear on the mouse from all that scrolling up and down. Is that really a concern? I know the Scots have a reputation for frugality. but think of the extra exercise your finger muscles get from playing with that mouse. There are always tradeoffs.

            Plus, with Mirror, you should know by now what he will always do the opposite of what he’s told to do. It’s the Gipsy in him. He’s been like that ever since borstal. If you want to get him to do something different, asking him to do it by telling him the way he’s doing it now is wrong is only going to provoke resistance.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              I am disappointed that norm dunc are reluctant to post… I am still waiting on their responses to so many questions … they are the resident covid experts and they are abandoning us — When We Need Them Most!!!

      • Fast Eddy says:

        I prefer more of the article pasted…

    • Mirror on the wall says:

      Guardian live updates:

      https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2021/aug/15/afghanistan-taliban-close-in-on-kabul-as-last-government-stronghold-in-north-falls

      LOL

      > Taliban commanders are saying they have taken control of the Afghan presidential palace. There is no confirmation of this from what remains of the Afghan government at this point, Reuters is reporting.

      The Afghan president, Ashraf Ghani, has, by all accounts so far, fled the country earlier today.

      Taliban leaders had been understood to be at the 19th-century palace in Kabul for negotiations but now claim to have taken it over.

    • Harry McGibbs says:

      “The Taliban’s Afghan Advance Spells Trouble for Pakistan and China… The Taliban comeback in Afghanistan will galvanize many Islamist actors in Pakistan to emulate the Afghan jihadist movement. It will be a huge challenge for a terribly weakened Islamic Republic of Pakistan to sustain itself with an Islamic emirate next door…

      “For many years Beijing benefited from the U.S. military presence in Afghanistan. China pushed ahead with its Belt and Road plans in Central Asia because the U.S. was ensuring that violence was contained within Afghanistan…

      “The U.S. decision to withdraw from Afghanistan has plunged China’s business plans in the region into uncertainty… Chinese projects [are] at risk of the violence radiating out of Afghanistan…

      “China doesn’t have good options. It will work with Pakistan, Iran, Russia and the Central Asian nations to limit the disruption of its economic interests by the Afghan chaos. But each of these nations will be struggling to protect its own interests. This is why we see the Chinese enhancing their diplomatic ties with the Taliban.”

      https://www.wsj.com/articles/afghanistan-withdrawal-biden-pakistan-taliban-russia-china-belt-and-road-cpec-economic-corridor-11628868392

      • Harry McGibbs says:

        “Turkish security forces are hard at work tightening measures to ensure the security of the country’s eastern border with Iran to prevent illegal migration, smuggling and the infiltration of terrorist elements…

        “Turkey is not a pit stop for migrants, President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said late Wednesday and added that the country is taking the necessary steps to avert an irregular migration crisis due to the situation in Afghanistan.”

        https://www.dailysabah.com/politics/diplomacy/turkish-forces-tighten-measures-for-eastern-border-security

        • Mirror on the wall says:

          Yes, Turkey had a potential ‘problem’ and it solved it. That is what states do. They do not all rely on USA to produce some perfect world in which all of its problems are solved and everyone can go sunbathing. If that were the case then USA would not now have this debacle in Afghanistan. No one is relying on USA. Every state gets up in the morning and spends all day identifying, avoiding and solving problems. That is what a state does. And others work through the night while they sleep.

          The world is a very dynamic and problematic place, where one stays on the ball or one suffers the consequences. Every state fully understands that or it would have fallen long ago. Life is always a struggle and it always will be. There will always be 1000 ‘problems’ facing any state everyday. States exist to address those issues. Many citizens get to dose through life and imagine that the world is some stable place thanks to USA. Like USA is Daddy come to tuck everyone up for a quiet night. No state in the real world is liable to confuse those dreams with reality. That nonsense is strictly for domestic consumption.

          • Harry McGibbs says:

            Turkey’s economic crisis at home is already turning up anti-migrant sentiment. No wonder they are doing everything they can to shore up their borders. I suspect plenty of Afghans will still make it across but then Erdogan can use them as leverage against the EU – every cloud!

            “Turkey: Anti-foreigner sentiment boils over in Ankara riots.

            “There are approximately 4 million refugees in Turkey, and they are increasingly the objects of hostility… Experts warn that the situation is likely to escalate in future.”

            https://www.dw.com/en/turkey-anti-foreigner-sentiment-boils-over-in-ankara-riots/a-58861412

      • Mirror on the wall says:

        Yes, the Western media has gone into a panicked propaganda mode but it seems unlikely that the whole of central and south Asia will collapse because USA failed in Afghanistan. Likely there is an awful lot of grand self-importance being projected and maintained in those narratives. ‘The world really cannot do without us, and it will all go to hell in a handbasket; they need us to intervene everywhere.’ That seems unlikely. The idea that USA provides ‘stability’ in Asia or anywhere else is a frankly laughable myth. But the Western media is not about to drop all of the underpinning propaganda narratives of its geopolitical strategy just because it failed in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and everywhere else. Western media really has no choice but to continue with the usual nonsense.

        The objective now is to ‘save face’ and to reinforce the public propaganda narratives that Western states have long cultivated. Western populations have either learnt to take those narratives with a hefty sprinkle of salt or they have not. It is not really China’s problem. ‘True believers’ who identify with Western states and narratives will continue to do so. As for what will happen in the future, time answers all. The idea that people who pay next to zero interest in geopolitics are going to get out their crystal ball and evaluate Western propaganda articles is not practical. Those articles are aimed solely at the domestic audience to maintain them as ‘cheerleaders’ for their states and their geopolitical actions. It translates as ‘baaa, ra ra ra.’ All states are propaganda states, it is just a fact of the world.

        • Harry McGibbs says:

          Daily Sabah is not Western media and nor is Al Jazeera. The US narrative about bringing stability to the region may indeed be laughable but it is hard to argue that their sudden departure is not destabilising, as it was when US troops pulled out of Iraq, allowing ISIS to run rampant.

          “…In the event of Taliban military domination or another full-scale proxy war, the whole region will be destabilised, which will have a ripple effect into the rest of Asia and all the way to Europe…

          “…the perception that the strongest global power has been defeated will inspire other militant groups in the region and elsewhere to ratchet up their violent tactics in the belief that they too will eventually take power. Pakistan will be more vulnerable than any other country…

          “…regional powers must take the threat seriously and act before Afghanistan plunges into turmoil and turns into a narco-extremist state. They should urgently initiate a multilateral cooperation framework that mobilises the region around a common security goal: to stabilise Afghanistan.”

          https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2021/7/26/afghanistans-neighbours-need-to-step-in-if-they-want-stability

          • Mirror on the wall says:

            WSJ or DS?

            Turkish state propaganda and its media have their own domestic and geopolitical agenda – the same as all others.

            I seriously doubt that Turkey, any more than UK, is going to get USA or anyone else to invade Afghanistan again right now. Time will tell.

            Clearly the USA failure in Afghanistan is a massive embarrassment for all of NATO.

            Of course states will continue to have problems and they will continue to address them. That is what they exist to do.

            USA failed in Afghanistan and the world goes on – end of.

            • Kowalainen says:

              Failed? I beg to differ. The US burned a lot of FF’s and munitions creating GDP and “profits” in the process.

              Failure as a military campaign? Who cares? Do you? I certainly don’t. Well, perhaps some uptight snob in the pentagon touchy feels the oh noes. 😭

              There is no end of the ego injured princesses in this world and the “defeat” in Afghanistan will just cause a circling of the narrative peddling wagons as you described.

              Brace for the mental gymnastics as we ease off the covid claptrap.

            • Ed says:

              Failed? Heck no. The C IA got the heroin profits for 20 years.

            • Harry McGibbs says:

              Who is saying anything about anyone invading Afghanistan again?

              This is certainly a huge embarrassment for the US and allies and a PR boon for the CCP – even the most jingoistic Western media outlets are admitting as much. However, I am pointing out that having a seething nest of hardline Sunnis on their border, causing waves of panicked emigration and potentially throwing a spanner in their Silk Road investments is also not a fantastic outcome for the Chinese, however much the Global Times might like to claim that the situation is not “awkward”.

              https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/pakistan-foreign-min-says-bus-attack-that-killed-9-chinese-workers-was-suicide-2021-08-12/

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Always have to take the MSM with a pinch of salt… the US could have stayed in Afghanistan for an eternity .. there was zero pressure from the public to leave… only a handful of Americans were dying there… the US has demonstrated they can pump out tens of trillions without imploding…

              Then there is the rapid collapse of the entire country … and Tallies riding around in US equipment…

              Recall the US has buddied up to the Tally Boys before … the US has a hate on for the CCP….

              Who benefits from the departure… better still .. who will likely suffer from having a home base not too far from where all those Muslim’s are in the concentration camps in China….

              The US will of course NEVER admit to this …

              Bravo CIA… Bravo…. let the terror begin!

          • Fast Eddy says:

            “…regional powers must take the threat seriously and act before Afghanistan plunges into turmoil and turns into a narco-extremist state. They should urgently initiate a multilateral cooperation framework that mobilises the region around a common security goal: to stabilise Afghanistan.”

            I suppose the CCP could consider aligning with a Tally Boys opponent … and pulling a USSR in The Ghan….

            However they will need to keep in mind… the US will be arming their mates the Tally Boys… so this won’t be a two decade cake walk with 2500 deaths…

      • Minority of One says:

        “The Taliban’s Afghan Advance Spells Trouble for Pakistan and China…”

        I doubt it. When the Taliban initially got kicked out of Afghanistan, they moved to the border areas of Pakistan, on the Pakistan side of the border, with the knowledge and assistance of the Pakistani secret service, who seem to be a law unto themselves within Pakistan. And the Taliban have allegedly been assisted by the Pakistani secret service financially and with arms ever since (according to the many articles by Robert Fisk and Patrick Cockburn at the ‘I’ newspaper, over the years).

        As for the CCP, they would not care if the Taliban executed half the country as long as their investments were sound.

    • Mirror on the wall says:

      It is over, Taliban has won. This afternoon’s Western propaganda spree of an impending world apocalypse seems to be subsiding. Now will start the long work of developing Afghanistan into a stable, productive partner with China, Russia, Pakistan, Iran, Turkey and others. USA and its allies are currently evacuating their diplomats in scenes reminiscent of Carry on Up the Khyber. CCP will continue to expand its belt and road initiative in the region with its many and increasing global partners. USA geopolitically failed in Afghanistan just as it did in Syria. The failures are adding up as USA hegemony subsides.

      > China and Russia prepare to accept Taliban rule of Afghanistan: Beijing officials pose with leaders of militants and Kremlin has ‘no plans’ to evacuate its embassy due to ‘good relations’

      China, Russia, Pakistan and Turkey all appear set to formally recognise Taliban rule in neighbouring Afghanistan after the Islamist group seized the Presidential Palace in Kabul. China, Russia, Pakistan and Turkey all appear set to formally recognise Taliban rule in neighbouring Afghanistan after the Islamist terror group seized the Presidential Palace in Kabul on Sunday and the country’s embattled president fled for Tajikistan.

      …. Beijing and Islamabad [will…] form closer ties with the likely new government, with Chinese state media preparing its people to accept the likely scenario that the ruling Communist Party might have to recognise the Islamist group.

      …. ‘The organisation has ‘good relations with Russia’ and a ‘policy in general to ensure safe conditions for the functioning of the Russian and other embassies,’ news agency AP quoted Suhail Shaheen, a spokesman for the Taliban’s political office, as saying to Tass.

      And Iran, which has long been wary of the Sunni Muslim Taliban, has moved to ensure the safety of its diplomats and staff after previously offering to help end the crisis during talks in July. Khatibzadeh said staff had evacuated three of the Islamic republic’s five Afghan diplomatic missions – in Mazar-i-Sharif, Jalalabad and Kandahar – but would continue their activities from the capital.

      …. Pakistan, which has been accused of harbouring Taliban fighters, could also back the group after Imran Khan refused to condemn their recent atrocities. Their endorsement could worsen Pakistan’s relations with India who have already been warned by the Taliban not to engage in any military action in Afghanistan.

      Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country will work for stability in Afghanistan along with Pakistan, in order to stem a growing migration wave amid the Taliban’s countrywide offensive.

      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9895753/China-Russia-prepare-accept-Taliban-rule-Afghanistan.html

    • Fast Eddy says:

      It eschews a dogmatic ideological approach, and has no need to tell other countries how to run themselves or what values they ‘should’ have.

      Hahaha… remember what happened when Lebron James asked people to stand with Hong Kong …

      Oh no … China is a benevolent totalitarian state…. they don’t have 1M people in concentration camps… they don’t sell the body organs of political prisoners … and they would never try to influence other countries…

      The only reason they don’t have influence in any countries… is because the Big Dog has the influence… and the Big Dog don’t share.

      • Mirror on the wall says:

        Apples and oranges. Clear thought is all about precision. The opposite is confusion. Confusion works pretty well with other cloudy people, which is presumably why it has not been bred out.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      BTW – are you aware that the Global Times is the propaganda arm of the CCP?

  39. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Illegal border crossings into EU rebound sharply in 2021 after 2020 drop due to COVID-19.

    “The European Union’s border agency, Frontex, revealed on Thursday that more than 82,000 illegal border crossings were recorded during the first seven months of the year, a 59% increase from a year ago. In 2020, illegal border crossings dropped by 13% year-on-year to reach 124,000 because of the COVID-19 pandemic.”

    https://www.euronews.com/2021/08/12/illegal-border-crossings-into-eu-rebound-sharply-in-2021-after-2020-drop-due-to-covid-19

  40. Harry McGibbs says:

    “An “unprecedented” number of migrants were intercepted illegally crossing the US-Mexico border in July, the head of America’s Homeland Security department has said.

    “Border guards recorded more than 200,000 instances of people attempting to enter the United States during the month…”

    https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/877928-unprecedented-number-of-migrants-cross-mexico-border-us

  41. Harry McGibbs says:

    “‘Price growth [US] is winning the race’: Inflation is devouring wage gains…

    “Rising prices on everything from groceries to gasoline have eaten away the wage gains workers have seen since the start of the year, leaving most Americans earning less than they were before the pandemic began…”

    https://www.politico.com/news/2021/08/11/workers-wages-prices-increase-inflation-503781

  42. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Wheat Supplies Are Shrinking and It’s Bad News for Bread Prices.

    “Crop losses in two of the world’s biggest wheat exporters and quality concerns in a third have pushed prices to multiyear highs, adding to worries about food price inflation for millions of the world’s most vulnerable… The impact will be felt by households and governments alike…”

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-08-14/wheat-supplies-are-shrinking-and-it-s-bad-news-for-bread-prices

  43. Harry McGibbs says:

    “‘An economic calamity’: Africa faces years of post-Covid instability.

    “Analysts and experts are warning of many years of instability across Africa, possibly leading to wars and political upheavals, as the economic impact of the Covid-19 pandemic deepens across the continent.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/13/an-economic-calamity-africa-faces-years-of-post-covid-instability

    • Harry McGibbs says:

      “Is Africa Headed for a Financial Crisis?

      “COVID-19 has exerted immense pressure on the world’s emerging markets, yet some of the pandemic’s most painful economic episodes may be yet to come. A rerun of the 2013 “taper tantrum,” a post-recovery collapse in oil prices, and poorly executed multilateral programs are creating economic concerns…”

      https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/08/10/africa-economy-financial-crisis-covid-development-monetary-policy/

    • Too many people relative to resources!

      • Artleads says:

        OFF TOPIC: Been trying to get clarification on a post by Rodster on see di sea Ka M.p.s, but nothing I’ve written about it so far has been able to post. Seeking help.

      • Artleads says:

        Having serious trouble posting anything about see d sea here.

      • Artleads says:

        Camps could have some bearing on this, presumably? BTW, it was reported that the internet was shut down in at least a part of Vermont yesterday. It was also shut down for 24 hrs herein NM simultaneously. Could that be more than a coincidence? Preparation for things to come?

  44. Yoshua says:

    The Vax War

    The Western mRNA and viral vector vaccine induced antibodies show ADE with Delta infections.

    “May they burn in heII!

    https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/breaking-french-study-published-in-journal-of-infections-claims-that-ade-or-antibody-dependent-enhancement-is-occurring-in-delta-variant-infections

  45. Fast Eddy says:

    The recent news of Barack Obama’s vile selfie birthday celebration for his celebrity “friends” at his 29-acre estate and mansion (he has another eight-million-dollar mansion in Washington, D. C.) on Martha’s Vineyard is an egregious recent case in point.

    If he thinks this nauseating display is proof of his stability and strength – which obviously he does – then he is a deluded fool. But those who carry water for the military-intelligence-media complex are amply rewarded and want to tell the world that this is so. It’s essential for the Show. It must be conspicuous so the plebians learn their lesson.

    Obama’s Vineyard mansion stands as an outward sign of his inner disgrace, his soullessness.

    Trump’s golden towers and his never-ending self-promotion or the multiple million-dollar mansions of high-tech, sports, and Hollywood’s superstars send the same message.

    Take Bill Gates’ sixty-three-million-dollar mansion, Xanadu, named after William Randolph Hearst’s estate in Citizen Kane, that took seven years to build.

    https://off-guardian.org/2021/08/15/the-houses-of-dead-and-crooked-souls/

    • Kowalainen says:

      “It’s essential for the Show. It must be conspicuous so the plebians learn their lesson.”

      Exactly; be a good tryhard sucker and you can live MOAR like Barry. Every halfwitted schmuck with aspirations feel rapacious primate envy. That’s the programming.

      The only thing that I envy Barry is the things he must know. However, I think I got the broad outline somewhat reasonably dialed in. I guess the briefing would be a snooze fest.

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