Ten Things that Change without Fossil Fuels

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It is now popular to talk about leaving fossil fuels to prevent climate change. Pretty much the same result occurs if we run short of fossil fuels: We lose fossil fuels, but it is because we cannot extract them. Practically no one tells us about the extent to which the current system depends upon fossil fuels, however.

The economy is extraordinarily dependent on fossil fuels. If there are not enough fossil fuels to go around, there is likely to be fighting over what is available. Some countries are likely to get far more than their fair share, while the rest of the world’s population will be left with very little or no fossil fuels.

If losing fossil fuels completely, or nearly completely, is a risk for some of the world’s population, it might be useful to think through some of the things that go wrong. The following are some of my ideas about things that change, mostly for the worse, in a fossil fuel-deprived economy.

[1] Banks, as we know them, will likely fail.

Before banks fail in areas with virtually no fossil fuels, my guess is that we will generally see hyperinflation. Governments will greatly increase the money supply in a vain attempt to get people to believe that more goods and services are being produced. This approach will be used because people equate having more money with the ability to buy more goods and services. Unfortunately, without fossil fuels it will be very difficult to produce very many goods.

More money will simply provide more inflation because it takes physical resources, including the proper types of energy, to operate machinery of all kinds to make goods. Creating services also requires fossil fuel energy, but generally, to a lesser extent than creating goods. For example, the pair of scissors used in cutting hair is made using fossil fuel energy. The person cutting hair needs to be paid; his or her pay needs to be high enough to cover energy-related costs such as buying and cooking food to eat. The shop where hair cutting is operated will also need to pay for the fossil fuel energy required for heat and light, assuming such energy is even available.

Banks will fail because too large a share of debts cannot be repaid with interest. Part of the problem will be that while wages will rise, the prices of goods and services will rise even faster, making goods unaffordable. Another part of the problem is that service economies, such as those of the US and eurozone, will be disproportionately affected by a declining economy. In such an economy, people will get their hair cut less often. Instead, they will spend their money on essentials, including food, water, and cooking supplies. Service-providing businesses, such as hair salons and restaurants, will fail for lack of customers, leading to defaults on their debts.

[2] Today’s governments will fail.

With failing banks, today’s governments will also fail. Partly, they will fail because of attempts to bail out banks. Another problem will be declining tax revenue because fewer goods and services are produced. Pension programs will become increasingly difficult to fund. All these issues will lead to increasingly divisive politics. In some cases, central governments may dissolve, leaving states and other smaller units, such as today’s provinces, to continue on their own.

Intergovernmental organizations, such as the United Nations and NATO, will find their voices becoming less and less heeded before they fail. Getting sufficient funding from member states will become an increasing problem.

Dictatorships ruled by leaders who wield absolute power and aristocracies ruled by leaders with hereditary rights are the types of governments with the least energy requirements. These are likely to become more common without fossil fuels.

[3] Nearly all of today’s businesses will fail.

Fossil fuels are essential for all kinds of businesses. They are used in the extraction of raw materials and in the transportation of goods. We use fossil fuels to pave roads and to build nearly all of today’s buildings. Without fossil fuels, even simple repairs of existing infrastructure become impossible. Without adequate fossil fuels, international companies are especially at risk of breaking into smaller units. They will find it impossible to operate in parts of the world with virtually no fossil fuel supply.

Fossil fuels are even used in making solar panels, wind turbines, and replacement parts for electric vehicles. Talking about solar and wind as “renewables” is to a significant extent misleading. At best, they can be described as fossil fuel “extenders.” They might help a problem of a slightly low fossil fuel supply, but they are far from adequate substitutes.

[4] Grid electricity and the internet will disappear.

Fossil fuels are important for maintaining the electrical transmission system. For example, restoring downed power lines after storms requires fossil fuels. Hooking up solar panels or wind turbines to the electric grid requires fossil fuels. Home solar panel systems may operate until their inverters fail. Once their inverters fail, their usefulness will be greatly degraded. Fossil fuels are needed to manufacture new inverters.

Fossil fuels are also important for maintaining every part of the internet system. Furthermore, without grid electricity, it becomes impossible to use computers to connect to the internet.

[5] International trade will be scaled back greatly.

At this time of year, many of us remember the story of the three kings from the East coming to visit the baby Jesus with precious gifts. We also remember stories in the Bible of Paul traveling to distant countries. From these and many other examples, we know that international trade and travel can continue without fossil fuels.

The problem is that without fossil fuels, some parts of the world will have very little to offer in return for goods made with fossil fuels. Countries with fossil fuels will quickly figure out that government debt from countries without fossil fuels doesn’t really mean much when it comes to paying for goods and services. As a result, trade will be scaled back to match available exports. Exports of goods will likely be very limited for parts of the world operating without fossil fuels.

[6] Agriculture will become much less efficient.

Today’s agriculture has been made unbelievably efficient using large mechanical equipment, generally powered by diesel, together with a huge number of chemicals, including herbicides, insecticides, and fertilizers. In addition, fences and netting made with fossil fuels are used to keep out unwanted animal pests. In some cases, greenhouses are used to provide a controlled climate for plants. Using fossil fuels, specialized hybrid seeds are developed that emphasize characteristics that farmers consider desirable. All these “helps” will tend to disappear.

Without these helps, agriculture will become much less efficient. Figure 1 shows that even with the small cutback in fossil fuel use in 2020, the share of employment provided by agriculture rose.

Figure 1. World employment in agriculture as a percentage of total employment, as compiled by the World Bank.

Employment in agriculture is essential. These workers did not get laid off, even as workers in tourism and workers making fancy clothes lost their jobs, so agricultural jobs as a share of total employment rose.

[7] Future labor needs are likely to be disproportionately in the agricultural sector.

People need to eat. Even if the economy is operating in a very inefficient manner, people will need food. The share of people in agriculture (including hunting and gathering) can be expected to rise considerably.

Some people hope that a shift to the use of permaculture will solve the problem of the dependence of agriculture on fossil fuels. I see permaculture as mostly a fossil-fuel extender, rather than a solution for getting along without fossil fuels, because it assumes the use of many fossil fuel-based devices, such as modern fences and today’s tools. Also, at best, permaculture only partly solves the inefficiency problem because it requires a huge amount of hands-on labor.

Figure 2. Comparison of US employment in agriculture as a share of total employment, with a similar ratio for the UN Least Developed Countries based on data of the World Bank.

Today, there is a wide divide between the share of employment in agriculture in the United States and in the same statistic for the UN group of least developed countries. Most of these countries are in sub-Saharan Africa. They use very little fossil fuels.

The US share of employment in agriculture has recently been about 1.7%. In the part of Europe using the Euro, the share of employment in agriculture has recently averaged about 3.0%. In either the US or Europe, it would take a huge change in employment to get to 70% in agricultural employment (as seen early in the 1990s for the UN least developed group), or even to 55% (as experienced recently by the same group).

[8] Home heating will become a luxury item available only to the wealthy.

Without fossil fuels, wood will come into high demand for its heat value. Wood will be needed for cooking food; it is very difficult to subsist on a diet of all raw foods. Wood will also be in demand for making charcoal, which in turn can be used to smelt some metals. With these demands on wood, deforestation is likely to become a major problem in many parts of the world. Wood in general will be quite expensive, given the considerable cost of harvesting and transporting it over long distances without the benefit of fossil fuels.

People living in sparsely populated wooded areas may be able to gather their own wood for home heating. For other people, home heating will likely become a luxury, affordable only by the very rich.

[9] Living alone will become a thing of the past.

Without enough heat, and with barely enough wood for cooking, people (and their animals) will have to huddle together more. Homes housing multiple generations, built over a place for keeping farm animals, may again become popular. It will be more efficient to cook for large groups than for one person at a time. People in cold areas will huddle together with each other in beds to keep warm. Or they will huddle together with their dogs, as in the saying, three dog night, meaning a night that is cold enough to need to have three dogs to keep a person warm.

Even in warm parts of the world, people will live together in groups, simply because maintaining a household for a single person will become impossibly expensive. Food and fuel for cooking will take up a huge share of a family’s income. There will be little left over for other expenses.

[10] Governments and their laws will shrink in importance. Instead, new traditions and new religions will play a greater role in keeping order.

Governments have made dozens of promises, but without a growing supply of fossil fuels (or an adequate substitute), they will not be able to keep them. Pensions will be gone. The ability of governments to enforce ownership laws will likely disappear. Without any good substitute for fossil fuels, mass disorder is a likely outcome.

People crave order. Without order, it is impossible to conduct business. We know from recent experience that “sustainability groups,” put together by people with a common interest in sustainability tend not to work well enough to provide order. They tend to fall apart as soon as obstacles arise.

What has seemed to work to provide order in the past is some combination of traditions and religions. With a changing world, both traditions and religions are likely to need to change. In the book, Communities that Abide, by Dmitry Orlov et al., the authors point out that having a strong (non-elected) leader, and a shared set of religious beliefs, helps keep a group together. In fact, it helps if the group is somewhat persecuted. Fighting for a common cause is part of what keeps the group together.

The Ten Commandments in the Bible are interpreted in a way that strongly suggests that they are rules for behavior within the group, not for behavior in general. For example, “Thou shalt not kill,” applies to other members of the group; wars against other groups were very much expected. In those wars, killing of members of another group was expected. This would seem to allow Israel’s killing of members of Hamas, today. Without enough fossil fuels to go around, fighting becomes more frequent.

Conclusion

In my opinion, the problem the world is facing today is like one that smaller economies have faced, over and over, in the past: The population has become too large for the economy’s resource base, which now includes fossil fuels. Today’s leaders reframe the problem as voluntarily moving away from fossil fuels to prevent climate change in order to make the situation sound less frightening.

As I see the situation, the world needs to scale down its use of fossil fuels because, ultimately, the laws of physics determine selling prices for fossil fuels. We extract the inexpensive-to-produce fossil fuels first. The problem is that fossil fuel selling prices cannot rise arbitrarily high. Prices must be both:

  • High enough for producers to make a profit, with funds left over for reinvestment and for adequate taxes for their governments.
  • Low enough for consumers to afford to buy food and other consumer goods produced with these fossil fuels.

If we assume that all the fossil fuels that seem to be under the ground can really be extracted, climate change from burning them may indeed be a problem. But it is hard to see that they can really be extracted, given the affordability issue. Politicians will hold down prices to get voters to vote for them if nothing else.

Researchers have been working diligently to find solutions, but to date, their success has been poor. Every supposed solution requires significant use of fossil fuels. So, we need to think through what might happen if we are forced to get along without fossil fuels and without an adequate substitute.

About Gail Tverberg

My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
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3,384 Responses to Ten Things that Change without Fossil Fuels

    • Student says:

      If in places without covid-vax people (Africa, Middle East, South America) or in places with people vaxxed without mRNA (Russia, China and allied Countries) nothing will happen, it means that it is linked to mRNA vax.
      In other words, if it will happen only in US, EU, Japan, Australia etc. it is for mRNA.
      I’m fed up of people who think that the world is only the western one…

      • ivanislav says:

        >> I’m fed up of people who think that the world is only the western one…

        Kulm may very well be right. The West was the farthest along, technologically, and it squandered the opportunity to advance in the time made available with the remaining resources. Moving manufacturing to China just to lower wages was a short term boon to corporate profits, but ultimately wasted time for human advancement.

        It’s not that the RoW are incapable, but we’ve eaten through the resource base. It’s too late unless humanity pulls multiple rabbits out of the hat, as was done with Haber Bosch and fracking.

        • Student says:

          I think that the decision to move production to China and other places was not only an autonomous and free decision from the west.
          Again we think to be the only one in power in the world.
          It was almost an obliged decision.
          It is not possible to have a portion of the world which develops and another big portion that stand aside just looking at you.
          If one part of the world is left only to see, sooner or later that part will come to you and will cut your throat in the night.

          • gimmedat says:

            What part of the Communist manifesto is that from?

            If violence to obtain material things is justified, why can’t why can’t rape and slavery also be justified ? Those things are based on needs and wants as well.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      I’d say we can expect many more heart attacks due to the vax…

      The thing is … they claim the spike in the virus does the damage… but then they say inject rat juice so your body makes spike maybe forever DUH…

      How can the Vaxxers not realize they are being played???? I really don’t get it …

      It’s the same with when I show the Moon thing… clearly held together by tape — made of tin and paper — with pieces hanging loose… and still… and still … the TFIs believe that landed on the moon.

      CTG is right — has to be a simulation … people cannot be that stooopid … can they???? CAN THEY????

      Actually…..

    • houtskool says:

      Just another crypto currency to prevent you from ‘inhaling’.

      Lets suck, not inhale. You poor bastards.

    • We will see what really happens.

    • Jan says:

      There is not any new study linked, but I think I have come across a newly published study, that I haven’t given much attention to, and that’s probably the basis of a new PR campaign. Covid binds to the ACE2 receptor, which is more present in the heart, so the idea that the natural virus, once it enters the bloodstream, may cause inflammation in the heart is not far fetched.

      Usually, a positive test and some influenca symptoms should not lead to virus particles in the blood stream, though. With a severe cause that seems possible on the other hand.

      There are studies finding that all covid strains seem to be manufactured in labs. From my point of view enough evidence to demand public investigation.

      The jabs injects negatively loaded particles of mRNA encapsulted in lipidnanoparticles – at least in theory, there have been findings that some batches perhaps contained mRNA that chemically interacted with the lipidnanoparticles and reacted other than planned.

      The negatively loaded particles swim in the bloodstream to positively loaded areas, that is heart, brain and nerves. Cells of these organs do not regenerate easily. They then slowdown here and enter cells, mostly of the surrounding vessels. These cells are forced to exprimate the spike protein, which causes the immune system to destruct these cells. The jab particles can now attack another layer or the organ tissue in this wound. Autopsys have shown fissures and ruptures of the vessels, clots (or microclotting in capillary which has led to brain neceosis) – as the wounds activate the repair mechanisms – and the infiltration of leucocytes, often mistaken as myocarditis.

      Destroyed nerval cells usually result in loss of function or memory.

      While the test seems to exaggerate the pandemic, I won’t say that natural infection cannot lead to severe causes. The jab on the other hand oficially does not reduce transmission and infection and leads to the problems above.

      A lot of brain and heart destruction may not cause visible symptoms. The vessels may be damaged and break in future under stress. Inflammation may have led to damaged tissue and less ability of the heart. Cognitive effects may be mistaken as sleepyness or a bad time.

      There is no wider known way to monitor such ruptures. What is more, the jabs seem to destroy the elastic cells and thus destroy vessels. Plus cancerogenic effects, destruction of the genome and much more problems.

      Clottings should go together with a high level of d-dimers. It can easily be checked with a respective lab test.

  1. @ivanislav

    https://ourfiniteworld.com/2023/12/15/ten-things-that-change-without-fossil-fuels/comment-page-10/#comment-448640

    After the masses had their guillotine fun, the City of London fought for 26 years to put the genie back to the bottle.

    The original aristocrats returned, with a vengeance with a capital V, and people like Marshal Ney or Murat tasted the medicine of the vengeance of elites. (People like Davout and Grouchy had aristocrat background and were spared)

    Kissinger praised the restoration of the old order for all his life and tried to maintain it to his last day

    After all that the Elites got a bit less subtle and threw enough bones for the masses to keep them quiet, but now the tech gap between the Elites and the rest are so large, there is no more reason to do so and UEP will take place.

    • ivanislav says:

      I don’t disagree that intelligent (insofar as they are) lineages with a subculture that values and instills a sense of history and duty to the family are advantaged. However, whether the aristocrats truly control the technology remains to be seen. The grunts (engineers) turning the cranks on technology don’t have the capital, but they do have the skills and so perhaps they can break free.

      • JMS says:

        Engineers do what they are told as long as their bosses guarantee security for themselves and their families. No problem there.

        • Nope.avi says:

          Engineers and other highly paid college educated professionals see themselves as part of the elite. I v doubt any of them are going to pull a ***Unibomber*** and rebel against their friends and family.
          Contrary to how education is portrayed, it is a system of conformity. People who “don’t fit in” and who might rebel against the system are weeded out of the credentialing programs just as much as the dunces are.

          • Cromagnon says:

            Uncle Ted was a living saint.

            If you were fortunate you got to see the only “once aired” on history channel……interview with the Warden of the Colorado supermax prison where Saint Kazynski was held. When asked what he thought of Ted….his response was spontaneous, honest and heartfelt,……he said “Ted was completely right”

            The only prison warden on the planet with a soul no doubt.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Kissinger should get sainthood… he single handled seized the KSA oil for America allowing Americans and the vassals to Live Large for half a century.

      Thank you posthumously henry

      • JMS says:

        At the time Saint Henry negotiated this boon for the poor with S. Arabia there were some 4 billion suckers in the world. Now there are twice as many. Since the saint knew that growth had limits, his move does not seem to have been incredibly wise. But it is a known fact that intelligence was never a requirement to enter the kingdom of heaven, and in any case Saint Henry was only following orders.
        He would deserve the title of saint and friend of humanity if he had come up with a plan so that 50 years later human suckers would be half of what they were in 1972. THAT would have been saintness, alleviating human suffering. Therefore, HK was just a SOb, albeit “our” SOB.

    • Tim Groves says:

      UEP = Untermenschen Extinction Plan?

    • Jan says:

      All that is a question of ability. To some extend success can be staged but sooner or later leadership requires results. There is a reason the monarchies agreed to the parliamentarian system.

      Now during degrowth or if you want crash it is very hard to prove success.

      Let’s assume the rich families will manage to replace the national states by publice-private-partnerships and e-government applications forced by CDBCs – led by the US of course. How could it replace economic growth and satisfaction? Even when they forcibly inject everyone with fentanyl?

      Without energy there is no way to success. Neither for the right winged parties in Europe nor for the landowners. Only a religious interludium is thinkable. A global suicide sect.

      Any new technology, be it orbital or terrestrial needs capital and energy to be deployed. Both is not available during a permanent structural recession.

      If we could verify ideas of abiotic generation of fossiles in the Earth crust (Thomas Gold) they are definitely not under current fields, because they would prevent existing fields from losing production. There would be need of investment into new fields, too.

      There are only two possibility for any sci-fi-like surprise: First, that the needed technology has secretly been depoyed already. Stores that keep secretly stock of Free Energy generators powering e-cars or pouring out artificial diesel. Second, that the decline of oil production is a scam an in truth the fields and basins are still full.

      Without these wonders also the rich families cannot prove success. And without success they cannot squeeze out their human competition from life to meet Earth’s carrying capacity.

      Of course they can kill all in a nuclear attack and let their brats survive like Heidi and her grandfather in the Swiss Alps and make themselves the ancestors of a new nuclear resistant species of former humanoids.

      But who wants that?

  2. Fast Eddy says:

    Dee Dee
    Writes Dee’s Substack
    4 hrs ago
    I know 2 people still taking the jabs worried to death (one is a nurse). This is absolutely sickening and insulting.

    Every shift I work, I’m hearing Code Blues (most in the PACU-post surgical). Blood clots causing heart attacks do not come from a respiratory infection unless the person is bed ridden (lack of oxygen to their extremities).

    https://drpanda.substack.com/p/new-variant-could-cause-a-heart-failure/comments

  3. Fast Eddy says:

    Disease: Curiosity Deficit Disorder or Something More?

    Dr. John Campbell wonders if we’re suffering from a national curiosity deficit. He’s digging into a recent Lancet paper that shows a whopping 44% jump in ischemic heart disease among middle-aged adults, along with similar spikes in other heart problems. Older adults are facing higher mortality rates, but what’s really causing these heart issues? We’ve got the immediate reasons, but the bigger picture—what led to this mess—is still a mystery and no one seems to care to investigate.

    Watch:

    https://drpanda.substack.com/p/new-variant-could-cause-a-heart-failure

    • JMS says:

      Curiosity deficit… LOL, As if scientific investigation (TM) was driven by curiosity, as in the 19th century, instead of financial interest. This dr. Campbell is such a jerk.
      What I see, at most, is a deficit of courage and independence among those white-coated serfs, but that’s neither new nor surprising. After all, anyone who has a curious and inquisitive mind does not choose to work for bigpharma.

  4. Fast Eddy says:

    Non-COVID excess mortality is up 42% in young people ages 0-24!

    https://drpanda.substack.com/p/new-variant-could-cause-a-heart-failure

  5. Mirror on the wall says:

    This is a significant development. Russia and China have the edge in modern military technology over USA/ NATO.

    We already knew they alone have hypersonic missiles that are unstoppable and so it would be ‘bye, bye’ to NATO fleets in the Baltic or wherever else if there is a direct conflict.

    The Ukranian Air Force has now admitted that Russia’s supersonic cruise missiles are unstoppable, the cheaper ones than the hypersonic ones.

    USA air defence systems like the Patriot system have completely failed to stop any of the 300 Russian cruise missiles fired into UKR.

    They were designed specifically to overcome USA’s Aegis and Patriot defence systems and to attack fleets but they can be fired at anything.

    In any case Europe (and Japan) are now entirely stripping themselves of Patriot systems to send to UKR as so many have already been destroyed there.

    All of that bodes very badly for USA/ NATO. Europe has stripped itself of air defence systems that are in any case ineffective against Russia’s cruise missiles.

    (UK does not have any serious missile/ drone defence in the first place https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/sep/14/uk-vulnerable-to-potential-missile-or-drone-attack-says-military-chief )

    If it comes to a direct conflict then NATO is going to lose very badly – so perhaps we ought to avoid that?

    > ‘Even U.S. Air Defence Failed…’: Ukraine’s Big Admission On Russia’s Missile Might | Watch

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Fake.

    • drb753 says:

      If the Patriots can not stop any modern missile, why not spend them now? But they can knock down drones which are most used in trench warfare. And the apparent strikes on Patriot systems of yesterday are probably in preparation to a lot of drones being used.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        How do you guys know anything you read in the ‘news’ is true?

        Given the amount of rubbish that is in the news every day that we know is fake.

        Is there some sort of truth test you can use?

    • The situation does sound worrying. Why would Ukraine want more armaments from NATO if they don’t really work?

  6. davecoop says:

    https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/do-you-dare-even-look-forecast-2024/

    “Oil still matters a lot. 90-percent of the new oil in America after 2008 came from fracking. It was a mighty operation and we are at a new all-time production peak in the USA of just over 13-million barrels a day. That’s a lot of oil, quite an achievement, but it’s sending a false signal. (Also note, we still consume about 20-million barrels a day.) Of the several fabled shale oil basins in America, only the Permian Basin in Texas is not in decline, and the situation there belies what the big numbers imply. Individual well production is going down at an alarming rate (says oil analyst Art Berman) even while production is massive for now. We’re draining the remaining “sweet spots” as fast as we can — drinking the milkshake through more straws — driving the shale industry closer to depletion.”

    I hear that they don’t get “middle distillates” (diesel, or kerosene for jet fuel) from oil-fracking, but only such as gasoline — it looks like the world passed post-covid peak oil last February (EIA) — is “complexity” going the way of fossil fuels?

  7. I AM THE MOB says:

    COVID Mask Mandates Return in California, Illinois, New York

    Hospitals across the U.S. are reinstating COVID-19 mask mandates as the JN.1 variant becomes the dominant strain spreading throughout the country. Hospitals in California, Illinois, Massachusetts, New York and Washington D.C.

    https://www.newsweek.com/covid-19-mask-mandate-1856195

    • Withnail says:

      Here we go again. Lockdown by February?

    • The mask requirement seems to be while in the hospital. It still has a ways to go.

      • Withnail says:

        It won’t take much in the UK. People in this pathetic country love an opportunity to display their subservience to the authorities.

        • Foolish Fitz says:

          Futile face coverings and pretending to be prisoners.

          Bringing back the fun for some. Empty roads, so I’ll be out more and no mask has ever been, or ever will be donned, which creates some amusing moments.

          Any fine, for going about your own private business, take it to court. They will back out, as they know they can’t win in court. There were groups of lawyers offering pro bono last time for a reason.

          Masks, just say “Exempt”. No more.
          Under section 26 of the Equalities Act 2010 they have no legal right to question you further(no matter who they are) and by doing so, will, under section 1, paragraph B, be liable to a charge of harassment(up to £9000 comp👍) and as I pointed out to the manager at Tesco’s(when their staff refused to serve me), harassment of a disabled* person, doesn’t look good on your CV(they told them to serve me). No employer, official, or anyone else(not even hospitals), for any reason, can demand you act like an idiot and we should all remind them of this.

          I’m quite excited(TFL probably the best fun, as you get staff and customers goose stepping in unison, in a confined space). You can even play different roles on different days(mentally disturbed with a fear of masks scares them a lot 😁 although my daughter wasn’t amused). If your disability is hearing related, you can demand that the person wrongly telling you to put a mask on, take theirs off, as you can’t understand them talking through a muffler and beauty of beauties, they would be breaking the law if they refuse(Equalities Act again).

          Even people that think they know you and claim you have no such condition, just need to be reminded of the word progressive(and then reminded that your medical history is of no concern to them).

          B19. A person who has a progressive condition, will be treated as having an impairment which has a substantial adverse effect from the moment any impairment resulting from that condition first has some adverse effect on his or her ability to carry out normal day-to-day activities, provided that in the future the adverse effect is likely to become substantial.

          B22. As set out in paragraph B19, in order for the special provisions covering progressive conditions to apply, there only needs to be some adverse effect on the person’s ability to carry out normal day to day activities. It does not have to be a substantial adverse effect.

          C7. It is not necessary for the effect to be the same throughout the period which is being considered in relation to determining whether the ‘long-term’ element of the definition is met. A person may still satisfy the long-term element of the definition even if the effect is not the same throughout the period. It may change: for example activities which are initially very difficult may become possible to a much greater extent. The effect might even disappear temporarily. Or other effects on the ability to carry out normal day-to-day activities may develop and the initial effect may disappear altogether.

          https://www.gov.uk/definition-of-disability-under-equality-act-2010

          I’d recommend tinnitus(or Menières if you want to be dramatic). It can’t be detected by others, comes and goes, so you don’t have to fake anything, fulfils the requirements above and means you can demand the angry idiot shouting at you, has to take their mask off if they want to talk to you. Once they calm down and take the mask off(accept lowering), ask them to speak up, as your a bit deaf 😉

          *Disability can mean almost any kind of recurrent impediment and you are never under any obligation to reveal, or discuss that with anyone.

      • I AM THE MOB says:

        She had blue skin,
        And so did he.
        He kept it hid
        And so did she.
        They searched for blue
        Their whole life through.
        Then passed right by–
        And never knew..

        “Masks” by Shel Silverstein

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Just a few more nudges and the booster rates will blast off… and we’ll get another massive up round of deaths and damage!!!

      Fantastic. I might spend my day seeding forums with redated photos of MOREONS on vents in the ICUs…. from 2021… to inspire even more fear and MORE boosters.

      I do enjoy when the TFIs get more boosters.

      I don’t understand why the A Vaxxers are so keen to try to convince them not to — after all… the Vaxxers are YOUR ENEMY. They wish you would die from covid…

      F789 the Vaxxers… the only good one .. is a dead one… or one with a severe vax injury.

  8. I AM THE MOB says:

    Boris Johnson looks like a zombie

    https://twitter.com/GBNewsSpin/status/1740886660051874237

  9. postkey says:

    “This is another trade connectivity paradigm entirely, smashing to bits western colonial and neocolonial control of Afro-Eurasia. So yes, BRICS+ supports Yemen, who with a single move has presented Pax Americana with The Mother of All Geopolitical Jams.”?
    https://www.unz.com/pescobar/how-yemen-changed-everything/

    • According to this article:

      Yemen’s resistance movement, Ansarallah, has made it very clear that any Israel-affiliated or Israel-destined vessel will be intercepted. While the west bristles at this, and imagines itself a target, the rest of the world fully understands that all other shipping is free to pass. Russian tankers – as well as Chinese, Iranian, and Global South ships – continue to move undisturbed across the Bab al-Mandeb (narrowest point: 33 km) and the Red Sea.

      Only the Hegemon is disturbed by this challenge to its ‘rules-based order.’ It is outraged that western vessels delivering energy or goods to law-breaking Israel can be impeded, and that the supply chain has been severed and plunged into deep crisis. The pinpointed target is the Israeli economy, which is already bleeding heavily. A single Yemeni move proves to be more efficient than a torrent of imperial sanctions.

      It is the tantalizing possibility of this single move turning into a paradigm shift – with no return – that is adding to the Hegemon’s apoplexy. Especially because imperial humiliation is deeply embedded in the paradigm shift.

      It would seem as though it would be fairly easy to find out whether Russian, Chinese, Iranian, and Global South ships are passing through the narrow part, undisturbed.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        The Hooties sure are powerful – they can close down shipping and there’s nothing all these powerful countries can do about it!!!

        Wow – the Hooties — who would have thought????

  10. Student says:

    (J-Post)

    Israel accused of stealing human organs from Palestinians.
    Bodies claimed to be delivered back without some organs..

    https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/article-779845

    • Zemi says:

      We do not know whether this is true or not.

      However, recipients of organs have for long enough reported acquiring some of the habits, likes and dislikes of their donors. Bizarre but true.

      The BBC broadcast a Horizon documentary about this many years ago. A young woman who had had a heart transplant started getting dreams about riding motorcycles. She eventually tracked down the parents of the donor. He had been a 32-year-old male motorcycle enthusiast who had been killed in a crash.

      Imagine if that news story about the theft of Palestinian body parts is true. Might some Israeli recipients suddenly find a taste for jihad and all the other unsavoury stuff? 🙂

      • Student says:

        In many cases both the kind of people have already in common religious fundamentalism.
        Every person with a minimum of ability of judgment should have understood that since a long ago.

        • Zemi says:

          “In many cases” – but not in all cases.

          And the transplant organs caused *specific* likes and dislikes (and even of particular types of food) in their recipients – not just general ones.

          I am well aware of the similarity of some of their practices: circumcision; halal / kosher. Etc. I am not a fan of anything middle-eastern, nor any of the Abrahamic religions.

  11. Student says:

    (FT)

    No money in Ukraine and people need to be prepared for new Russian missiles ready to reach mach4.
    Looking to enter Nato and EU has been a good business for Ukrainians…

    https://www.ft.com/content/974158d4-4d75-4771-94e3-820fc403754d

    https://archive.ph/DFBFf

  12. Student says:

    (Marittime executive)

    “A general cargo ship making a trans-Pacific crossing is reporting that it is battling cargo hold fires with a load of lithium-ion batteries aboard. The U.S. Coast Guard Sector Anchorage Command Center has instructed the vessel to proceed toward Dutch Harbor, Alaska in the ongoing situation. Resources are being assembled to help fight the fire when the vessel gets closer to Alaska.”

    https://maritime-executive.com/article/cargo-ship-with-ongoing-li-ion-battery-fire-diverted-to-alaska-by-uscg

  13. Fast Eddy says:

    Check it out https://t.me/EdwardDowdReal/529

    Recall 1800’s 5 to 8% excess deaths due to famine – and that was considered a disaster

    hahaha

    F789 Yeah!!! (long covid – right norm)

  14. Fast Eddy says:

    Check it out!

    https://t.me/EdwardDowdReal/527

  15. Ed says:

    “Genocide Joe Has Got To Go”

  16. jupiviv says:

    Gail, re your comment:
    “There are a lot of young men here in the US who have stopped looking for wives. Their incomes are too low. They are burdened by too much debt. (Educational loans and automobile loans.) Divorce seems like it is a prevalent outcome, for those who do marry.”

    This notion of people not marrying is very common these days but only partially accurate. If you look at this Brookings article:
    https://www.brookings.edu/articles/middle-class-marriage-is-declining-and-likely-deepening-inequality/

    The marriage rate (for 33-44 y.o) has remained stable for the wealthier half of the US since the 90s, at 75-80%. The article itself somewhat misrepresents this, claiming “middle class marriage” is declining. When in fact, if you see their excel docs with the raw data (linked below the graphs), you’d see that marriage rate decline is restricted to the lower middle and working classes (bottom 50-60%).

    • I know that in my own family, two of my three children (both males) are unmarried. They both have masters degrees.

      My next younger sister has two children. One of those two (the male) is unmarried. He has various technical school degrees, but no college degree.

      My second younger sister has two children. One of those two (the female) is unmarried. She is a dentist with practices in two states. She has no time for a husband.

      My only brother is a psychiatrist with four daughters. They were home schooled by a stay-at-home mother. Three of the four have now graduated from a very religiously conservative college that caters to home-schooled young people; the youngest is still in college. Two of the three that have graduated from college are already married; the other is engaged to be married.

      Focusing on advanced education rather than on finding a mate seems to reduce the likelihood of marriage. Also, today’s many ailments, especially for men, (autism, ADHD, depression) get in the way of marriage. Staying in a culture that emphasizes marriage (like my brother’s family) increases marriage rates.

      • jupiviv says:

        But on aggregate being highly educated (hence, also wealthier than most) corresponds to substantially higher marriage rates *and* lower divorce rates than lower middle/working class people. People are also marrying several years later than they used to, say, in the 2000s. So I think that influences the perception of no one getting married. Older people like you are used to seeing married couples in their 20s and they are certainly getting rarer.

      • Dennis L. says:

        For most and in most subjects, college is a scam, it always has been, sort of a late adolescence. Note, I was a housefellow at Madision, dorms, for three years, on the whole kids at the CC where I am are much different than UWM. Nice job, full room and board, full tuition, book allowance and Sunday meal allowance.

        From my home town, fellow Rotarian while I was there.

        https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2023/12/29/university-wisconsin-la-crosse-joe-gow-fired-explicit-videos-wife-cnc-vpx.cnn

        There was a weekend bus from the downtown bar area, it was named “The Vomit Comet.”

        Four years of play in worthless subjects so to support the above mentioned president and others and a life time of debt for the students.

        The values come from the top.

        Dennis L.

        • Doesn’t sound good.

          Bachelor’s Degree has been used as an admission requirement to a lot of jobs, whether or not there is any direct applicability. I suppose the view is that the young people stuck with college for something like four years. That is indicative of something.

          People without BA or BS degrees in recent years have had a harder time changing jobs. They can show that they were promoted in their previous jobs, but it often seems to be hard to get a new job on this basis.

        • Smiley says:

          For most and in most subjects, college is a scam,

          Like someone told me decades ago, the best students are the ones who already know the material before the first day of class begins. Teachers love showing off this kind of student as a sucess story. Everyone knows the teacher had NOTHING to do with that student’s success but the teacher will happily lavish extra help to this student. Teachers do not like to teach. If they have to teach, it means their students are low IQ.

          • Actuarial training, especially casualty actuarial training, is almost entirely self-study and on-the-job training. I had an MS in math, but I did not ever take formal “actuarial courses.” And historically, an awfully lot of what has been published has nothing to do with university systems.

            Actuaries give reports at actuarial meetings regarding things they are working on or observing, but there isn’t necessarily a review process from outside the company (except recently, to make certain that the material is understandable to others and meets some “objectives.” Actuarial groups are undergoing the same kinds of pressures as other groups.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              How can we convince someone in the actuarial dept at one of the big insurers to leak the data on the disaster they are seeing with excess deaths and disabilities from the Rat Juice?

              Surely they must be horrified at the numbers.

      • Dennis L. says:

        Observation on homeschooled which I have made before. In calc the best students were home schooled.

        Dentistry now prepares students for very little, I was a dentist and at the time materials were such that value could be added by the dentist. Looked at this while I was doing public health, thought to do most dentistry only a two year degree would be necessary, glad I didn’t pursue that idea, would not have been very popular.

        80 always, the 80 are there to pay for the overhead, the 20 get an education. For a guy, do engineering, wonderful, broad background, easy to learn business math(accounting, NPV, etc.) after undergrad.

        Dennis L.

        • Jan says:

          The old curriculum in Austria demanded full finished studies of human medicine plus additional studies as a dentist. Insane! Now it’s a master’s degree.

      • Jan says:

        I am not sure that “marriage” shows the right picture, couples may live in longtime relations without papers. At the end that’s not so important.

        Also, people with deficits can be lovely and reliable partners – and even bring the money in! It depends.

        I am a homeschooling jack-of-all-sciences also. I have never thought, I could teach all this. It was a very intense time that I wouldnt want to miss.

        • Nope.avi says:

          Thank you for walking on eggshells around this subject.

          The term physical attraction would show a better picture because that correlates to good genes. If people have less desire to have kids it is probably because bad genetic traits are piling up. Disease and warfare used to obliterate all a large number of sickly and homely men.

          So, it’s not just feminism –men have really become more undesireable because of a lower death rate for men. Just look at when people talk about relationships–if they are bitter they are sad about not being to get an attractive partner throughout their lives. Their love history is usually filled with people they were barely barely attracted to. When someone is barely tolerable, bad traits stand out much more.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      I read a book many years ago … might have been something by Steinbeck… anyway the author decided to spend some time living as a hobo….

      It was impossible to get any action — cuz women ain’t keen on getting down with hobos… but also there was the issue of other hobos keen on rape

      Hey norm … tell us about your experience… how often do the other hobos try to rape you… I assume that your 10lb deadlift exercises give you the strength to fend them off… and if they do pin you they get turned off by the soiled week old diaper….

      • Nope.avi says:

        Bad experiment.
        Homless people tend to have lots of bad genes so they tend to be ugly. Being able to walk around with a high mircrobal load while smelling like —– is not attractive to anyone who is not sexually deviant.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          I was thinking about this yesterday as I admired Hoolio’s fine form….

          that I have never seen an ugly dog…. there might be a breed that looks kinda weird… but individually have you ever seen a dog that is ugly? They always have perfect symmetry … eyes are not too close or too wide apart… no Frankenstein foreheads….

          Ever seen an ugly eagle? frog? what about an ugly lion? or gazelle… how about an ugly deer? every wander through the zoo and noticed a monkey and said to yourself — what the f789 happened to that fella he’s so ugly compared to the others…

          Even cockroaches are never ugly.

          Only humans… in fact most humans are unattractive… walk through the super market or anywhere that there are many humans… most are borderline ugly or downright ugly… and/or obese…. I’ve lived in NZ for 8+ years and I can honestly say I’ve not seen more than half a dozen attractive women… they are either fat… or ugly … or just plain jane blah… no head turners…

          It almost makes me wish that I was an ant … all that female ants are fit and look great… all day long as I worked away I’d be whistling and cat calling the hot female ants… not an ugly one in the entire colony!!!

          Or maybe not… maybe when all the other ants are hot hotness is no longer a word? Hotness just becomes normal.

          But then if only all the females in NZ were of this calibre https://swimsuit.si.com/swimnews/the-women-featured-in-the-2023-swimsuit-issue

          I wouldn’t mind.

          • Kowalainen says:

            Yep, it surely seems like rocket science for the complacent and sedentary Hypers to stuff healthy food inside their cookie holes and to engage in strenuous physical activities all throughout their lives.

            Their bodies and minds serve as a reflection of their self entitlements in IC. It is grotesque, a vulgar display of mental illnesses and obvious perversions in and of various indulgences.

            🤥🦧💨

  17. moss says:

    And over the psychobabble of calendar year prognosticators, Il Papa, reaches to make his voice heard

    Brothers and sisters, we are approaching the season of grace and hope that is the Jubilee, due to begin a year from now. May this time of preparation for the Holy Year be an opportunity for the conversion of hearts, for the rejection of war and the embrace of peace, and for joyfully responding to the Lord’s call, in the words of Isaiah’s prophecy, “to bring good news to the oppressed, to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and release to the prisoners
    Francis
    Copyright © Dicastero per la Comunicazione – Libreria Editrice Vaticana

    any of his coreligionists here? Just curious coz I’ve read much of Michael Hudson’s interpretation of Biblical times of Jubilee. This is the first I’ve heard of an imminent one being forecast, and if his crystal ball is workin’
    … maybe there’s a donation target?

    • Defaults on debt would seem to be closely related to Year of Jubilee. Somehow, the excessive value that is currently ascribed to bonds and shares of stock needs to be written down. The Year of Jubilee is one way of doing this; calling it a default is another way.

    • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

      Catholic Church seems to do Jubilee every 25 or 50 years, since the year 1300.

      so that is why it is coming in 2025.

      doesn’t seem to be about ancient Hebrew debt forgiveness.

    • This is an article from the Catholic News Agency about the Jubilee.

      https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/254346/rome-prepares-for-35-million-pilgrims-during-2025-jubilee-year

      I can’t see anything very debt-related in this write up.

      • moss says:

        as chance would have it, Michael Hudson writes today:
        Ever since the 13th century crusades, it was the Vatican that had taken the lead in organizing a European financial system to finance the crusades and wars, not to play any kind of a productive role.
        nakedcapitalism.com/2023/12/michael-hudson-neoliberalism-industrial-capitalism-and-the-rise-of-debt.html

        Clearly, Jubilee would then have had to have been redefined by the church, along with usury, or the Vatican would not have been able to receive loans …
        moneygrubbers

        • I hadn’t thought about the church organizing the European financial system to finance wars. Church and state were so intertwined, I suppose anything could be possible.

          I have heard that indulgences were are kind of voluntary taxes on the rich. The proceeds could be used by the church as desired, including creating jobs for the poor.

          • moss says:

            thx for your thoughts on this, Gail; and to take this chance also to express again my infinite gratitude to you for providing this space and tender every best wish for your year ahead
            cheers for the night!

  18. Fast Eddy says:

    YOLO – take more farma https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/90629

    • A video about big food and big pharma being hand in hand. Big pharma would like everyone age 12 and over who is overweight to be injected with their weight loss drug on a regular basis. Crazy idea.

      Somehow, the overly processed food that so many people are eating should be put to an end. That would greatly help healths.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Basically … we are beyond Idiocracy…. way beyond…

        It’s for the better that we are being exterminated.

  19. Rodster says:

    Of course this is all just a coincidence.

    And here’s another victim: “2003 Indy 500 winner Gil de Ferran dies aged 56”

    https://www.autosport.com/indycar/news/2003-indy-500-winner-gil-de-ferran-dead-at-56/10561443/

    “According to the Associated Press, de Ferran appeared to suffer a heart attack while competing with his son at The Concours Club in Opa-locka, Florida on Friday.”

    • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

      all these coincidences just keep on coinciding.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        No cause of death… he just suddenly died… from nothing

        I can’t see the 108 Twatter comments … can anyone else see – are they saying Rat Juice?

    • Student says:

      Famous geopolitical Italian analyst, Vittorio Emanuele Parsi, who was covid-vax supporter and Ukraine supporter against Russia, who claimed that the same people with no brain were either against vax and against supporting Ukraine war, had an urgent surgery at the heart while he was on holidays on the famous place for holidays of rich European people, Cortina d’Ampezzo, in the Dolomiti mountains…
      Comment no.1 of the list.
      The news is true, it has been confirmed on all newspapers.
      https://luogocomune.net/35-commenti-liberi/6409-commenti-liberi-30-dic-2023#comment-402297

      • Fast Eddy says:

        The conditions of professor Vittorio Emanuele Parsi, professor of International Relations at the Catholic University of Milan, who was urgently hospitalized in Treviso for a cardiovascular problem, are still serious. The political scientist, 62 years old, had a sickness while he was in Cortina d’Ampezzo. Given the severity of the situation, he was transported to the Ca’ Foncello hospital in Treviso, where he underwent a delicate heart surgery yesterday. He is currently in intensive care. The prognosis remains reserved.

        hahahaha… Happy New Year mutherf789er

        https://www.tiktok.com/@tiktokrachelreenstra/video/7052092917552516398

  20. Rodster says:

    Fast, here’s another TC victim and a picture of health.

    https://www.cbssports.com/nhl/news/former-capitals-nordiques-forward-reginald-savage-dies-at-53/

    “Savage’s sister, Sonia, told NHL.com that his main goal in life was to be a hockey player, and he did everything he could to make that happen.

    “It was his life,” she said. “He trained every day, ate what he had to eat. He’d never go out. He never took anything. He only wanted to be a hockey player. He did all the sacrifices he had to do.”

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Wow… that’s a rather big name in the hockey world… Turbo Cancer … but the Vaxxers won’t make the connection

      Good. Hopefully they take more boosters so we can continue to be entertained by their misery

  21. JesseJames says:

    A while back I wrote about the economic situation of my relatives. I have two of my wife’s children married and living in the UK. As an update, both have moved up the ladder in their chosen professions, however, even with increased income, there is nothing left when they have finished buying food, and paid the bills. They are not getting ahead, instead they are even falling behind. They have little to no money.
    The stupid UK has gone all in on fake renewables, causing their utility bills to go up.
    Food is ever more expensive and it is harder to make ends meet.
    Expect harder times…

    • Wet My Beak says:

      They could try using blankets and heavy cardigans instead of heaters like they do in new zealand. Go to bed early and use other person’s body heat to keep warm.

      Also, they could turn off all electrical appliances and use candles in the evenings like new zealanders do.

      Read books from the library instead of watching TV or being on the computer.

      Also, change diet. Fruit for breakfast and lunch. Little bit of meat with some peas and spuds for dinner.

      Use bicycles or walking for transport and pull the kids out of private schools.

      Avoid modern medicine.

    • Withnail says:

      It’s stupidly expensive here in the UK and it looks like a lot of businesses will be closing in 2024. Already the high streets are full of derelict shopfronts.

    • in the uk—and everywhere else, we have up to now lived on surpluses.

      the problem of affordability, that you describe, is in fact a problem of lack of surplus.

      I lived my young life in a time when everything was ‘relatively’ cheap—, what that did was allow me to stack up personal surplus for my old age.
      i was lucky.

      unfortnately those surplus times have gone, meaning that my g/grandkids will not be able to do what i did.
      they will receive a portion of my surplus in due course…but not much.

      they will dissipate it to survive

      and then it will be gone.

    • Zemi says:

      Do they rent or own? I’ve read that some Brits pay 70% of their income on rent. I bought a flat in 1991 and paid off the mortgage in 6 years and now own my share of the freehold, so I count myself lucky.

  22. Wet My Beak says:

    Sitting outside the (closed) library today a $5 note appeared on the sidewalk. The wind was gently blowing it along in front of my windscreen. Thought about getting it but there didn’t seem to be any point – can’t buy anything with it anyway.

    An old native gentleman shuffled passed and didn’t bother to bend over and pick it up.

    Ambitious young men have always been motivated by the prospect of attaining an attractive woman as a wife. Unfortunately, that option is not available in sad new zealand as the females are indistinguishable from adult bison.

    Any female with remotely appealing features has fled to Australia.

    So now, the sight of groups of young men sitting doing nothing is common. There seems no point. Better to enjoy drugs and whatever morsels of food can be afforded on an unemployment benefit.

    Third world immigrants have more drive as they bring their wives with them. But they don’t have skills and work serving burgers and cleaning toilets. Each immigrant lowers the GDP per capita.

    Their fake qualifications are useless in new Zealand and the country is dying anyway. The only first world country in the region, Australia, is their ultimate goal but it only the second or third generations who can add real value.

    • Thanks for your insights. There are a lot of young men here in the US who have stopped looking for wives. Their incomes are too low. They are burdened by too much debt. (Educational loans and automobile loans.) Divorce seems like it is a prevalent outcome, for those who do marry.

      Besides, there aren’t too many women without children looking for husbands. The tax structure is too punitive if both would be spouses are both low income. Women may feel like they can get ahead better on the job if they are not burdened by children.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Rewind 10 or so years and Fast Eddy is in Yemen having coffee with the Canadian head of economic affairs for MENA at a hotel right up the street from where the Hooties or some group had tried to blow up the British Ambassador a few weeks earlier …

        He explains that the country is running very low on oil — does not have the means to import — also has a huge issue with water and cannot afford to desalinate — nor pump up to the capital city…. in summary he says — this place will soon be f789ed.

        A few days later FE is having tea with one of the brothers who was helping Fast navigate the situation … and he was bemoaning the fact that it was not possible to get married cuz no $$$$.

        https://i.postimg.cc/KzGtbFXm/Yemen.png

        I wonder if he’s dead?

        I wonder if the economic guy would now be saying we are all soon to be F789ed…

        Another photo from that adventure — this is the sort of thing only humans would do…

        https://i.postimg.cc/L8jPZh2H/Camel-Yemen.png

      • Cromagnon says:

        They have stopped looking for wives because they are afraid of false accusations/ going to prison as a result of such/ having all of their assets stolen during the inevitable divorce if they are so stupid to marry/realize that 90% of women are so deluded that they think that they can always “do better”…never having truly looked at themselves in the mirror.
        As for the women they will mostly end owning a lot of cats…….cause “kids’ you know?

    • Lastcall says:

      Would $20.00 get some action from da beak?

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Super Snatch offers her fester for 5 bucks… so it’s not completely worthless… but the thing is …. norm has been there…..

      • Wet My Beak says:

        US maybe. NZ not so sure. Nearly cheaper to use NZ$ 5 instead of loo paper now.

        • Lastcall says:

          If only it was Jabcinda on the note.
          Royal fl-lush

          • Wet My Beak says:

            jacinta can no longer live in sad new zealand. She has fled overseas. She was constantly being threatened apparently and didn’t feel safe.

            Very few people feel safe in new zealand now. Gangs are taking control. Police look more like criminals every day.

            Ultimately, this dreadful country will get what it deserves. Annihilation.

  23. davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

    JHK 2024 prediction article concludes:

    “Final Cautionary Note
    You might not know it, because predictions are fun to read — and I enjoy reading other people’s efforts — but, really, forecasting is an exercise in futility. I don’t have much going besides a nose for news, a pretty long list of correspondents and informants, and my own heuristics. Take all this for what it actually is: a whole lot of spaghetti thrown at the wall to see what sticks. Only time will tell. In all, it looks like 2024 is going to be a rough ride and I’m not the only person who sees that.”

    sure 2024 will be a rough ride very similar to 2023.

    the USA will have mostly the same positives/negatives 12 months from now.

    world oil will again average somewhat near the 2023 average of $80 ish.
    production will be nearly the same, perhaps slightly lower.

    markets, currencies etc will mostly have about their same value 12 months from now.

    2024 US election will probably be similarly weird as in 2020, but of course the players and the details will be different.

    covid is endemic, that won’t change in 2024, never will, and disinterest in C-vaccines will continue, and health problems from both natural and vax spike proteins will continue to slowly increase.

    nothingburger moneywaster AI will be the same 12 months from now.

    R dominance of U will be similar 12 months from now, perhaps with a bit of progress towards ultimate R victory.

    Europe slow decline will continue, China problems will continue but likely be hardly any worse.

    rough ride in 2024 on the bAU tiger, just like 2023, but like now, The Core will be riding bAU next December.

    • I am afraid I start feeling the same frustrated way about predictions as JHK does.

      Things like covid and its strange “vaccines” were not something anyone could have predicted. The US central government has been able to print its way out of a lot of problems, through the “moneyness” of its debt. The price of oil behaves in a way that is not really predictable. The US presidential election looks like it has the possibility of somehow going badly wrong, but I don’t know precisely what will happen.

      • Ed says:

        I have a friend who keeps saying there will be no 2024 election. I keep saying there will be. Now, I believe it will be a sham election maybe with only one candidate Biden. They will tell us they are saving our democracy.

        Sadly no one remembers the constitution and no one remembers the bill of rights. They forget that the first amendment protects five rights. One of which is the right to seek redress. The citizens went to DC on Jan 6th to seek redress. The sitting president addressed them. The real insurrectionist call that insurrection. The partisan secretaries of state deem it insurrection though they are not jury, judge, lawyers. They are themselves insurrectionists.

        We are past law. We are at treason and passion and money and power. I do know the average Joe, that includes ALL of us here, have virtually zero money and power.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          All elections are shams…. the winners are nothing more than minions for the Elders

          Notice how not a single leader is defying the Elder’s Rat Juice mandate?

          • DB says:

            No _living_ leader has defied the jabs. The ones who did died mysteriously, suddenly, and unexpectedly soon after they announced their opposition … And yet so many people think there are blocks of allied nations, and national interests, and all of the other international relations soap opera diversions. All nations are on the same team.

            • Student says:

              About the western world, surely yes.
              For the rest, the world is still a place which offers a variety of solutions for life, but we in the west look at the world only through the lens of ‘westerncentrism’ and we think that exists only one reality.

        • Withnail says:

          I have a friend who keeps saying there will be no 2024 election. I keep saying there will be

          Of course there will be an election because elections don’t matter.

      • moss says:

        I am afraid I start feeling the same frustrated way about JHK

        Silver is lagging — coiling, coiling around $24 for many months — but you can expect to see it slingshot up when the “moneyness” of everything else dribbles away.
        sigh … prognosticating platitudes for everyman
        worshiper at the temple of the moneygrubber

        Of course it’s an exercise in futility, but some think their exercises are of greater worth, better informed – ahhhh, yes

        Disclosure: I enjoy his pyschobabble for the erudite wordsmithery

    • Retired Librarian says:

      Slow-mo. 👍🤗

  24. Jan says:

    “India’s Russian crude imports prevented price surge, ‘havoc’ in global oil market, says petroleum ministry”

    https://archive.is/pg1Tn

    • “India is the world’s third-largest consumer of crude oil and depends on imports to meet over 85 per cent of its requirement.”

      Global crude oil prices would have surged and created “havoc” in the international oil market had India not ramped up oil imports from Russia in the aftermath of Moscow’s February 2022 invasion of Ukraine, the petroleum and natural gas ministry told the department-related parliamentary standing committee.

      “If they (Indian refiners) had not imported Russian oil into India, which may be a big number of 1.95 million barrels per day, that deficiency would have created a havoc in the crude oil market and the prices would have shot up by about $30-40,” a petroleum ministry representative was quoted as saying in a recent report of the standing committee on petroleum and natural gas.

      Clearly, the world cannot get along without Russia’s oil exports. If Europe cannot afford oil from Russia (or thinks it can “punish” Russia this way), sending more oil to India is a more efficient way of making use of the oil.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        So India can import oil … but the US has no steel production (actually it does) yet it can’t import steel to make more ammo? I am confused

  25. Mirror on the wall says:

    The news just keeps getting worse on the climate and it looks like humans are obviously not going to avoid massive climate change. Our civilization depends very heavily on fossil fuels, renewables are no realistic alternative and it very much looks like there is zero chance of humans deliberately collapsing civilization to limit climate change. It looks like it is going to run its course in the worst way.

    News from the past month…. while COP28 failed….

    https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/temperature-disaster-climate-cop28-b2450294.html

    > Earth crosses 2C warning line for first time

    The breach, while temporary, surpasses upper warming limit of the global Paris Agreement

    Earth has breached the milestone temperature of 2C for the first time – a temporary step but one that scientists warn is far off-course in fighting the climate crisis.

    On Friday, the global average temperature was 2.06C higher than the pre-industrial levels for the first time since records began, according to preliminary data from the European Center for Medium-Range Weather Forecasts (ECMWF).

    The breach, while temporary, surpassed the upper warming limit of the global Paris Agreement which was set to avert the most harmful consequences of the climate crisis.

    …. The 2C breach comes as a new United Nations report warned that the world is speeding towards a rise of 2.9C this century .

    To have even a chance of remaining at 1.5C – the lower Paris limit – countries need to cut emissions by 42 per cent in the next six years, according to the UN Environment Programme’s Emissions Gap report on Monday.

    Instead, emissions, largely from fossil fuels, rose 1.2 per cent last year, the UNEP report said.

    “If the trend continues, then 1.5C will be crossed in the early 2030s,” Eliot Jacobson, a retired professor of mathematics and computer science, wrote on X.

    https://www.reuters.com/business/environment/climate-change-2023-will-be-warmest-year-record-eus-copernicus-2023-12-06/

    > 2023 to be hottest year on record, EU scientists say

    European Union scientists said on Wednesday that 2023 would be the warmest year on record, as global mean temperature for the first 11 months of the year hit the highest level on record, 1.46 degrees Celsius (2.63 degrees Fahrenheit) above the 1850-1900 average.

    The record comes as governments are in marathon negotiations on whether to, for the first time, phase out the use of CO2-emitting coal, oil and gas, the main source of warming emissions, at the COP28 summit in Dubai.

    The temperature for the January-November period was 0.13C higher than the average for the same period in 2016, currently the warmest calendar year on record, the Copernicus Climate Change Service (C3S) said.

    November 2023 was the warmest November on record globally, with an average surface air temperature of 14.22C, 0.85C above the 1991-2020 average for November and 0.32C above the previous warmest November, in 2020, Copernicus added.

    This year “has now had six record breaking months and two record breaking seasons. The extraordinary global November temperatures, including two days warmer than 2C above preindustrial, mean that 2023 is the warmest year in recorded history,” deputy director of C3S Samantha Burgess said in a statement.

    The boreal autumn September–November was also the warmest on record globally by a large margin, with an average temperature of 15.30C, 0.88C above average, EU scientists said.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-67674841

    > COP28 deal calls for global transition away from fossil fuels for first time

    Is this the beginning of the end for fossil fuels?

    By itself, will this deal be enough to save the “north star” of this COP – keeping temperatures under 1.5C this century?

    Most likely not.

    The major element of the deal, the transition away from fossil fuels in energy systems, is indeed a landmark moment. But the language is far weaker than many countries desired.

    The UAE presidency had included strong text on the idea of a fossil fuel phase out from the start of the meeting.

    But in the face of opposition from many, they dropped it from their first attempt at a draft agreement. Cue fury among progressives and much finger pointing at oil producers.

    This deal doesn’t affect our oil exports, says Saudi Arabia

    Opec – the group of 13 oil producing countries – has chimed in, congratulating the UAE for the “positive outcome” of this year’s COP.

    Opec produces about a third of the world’s crude oil and their governments rely heavily on that money from it. So they’ve likely been watching today’s COP deal – which mentioned fossil fuels (which includes oil) for the first time – closely.

    In a statement just now, they said: “Without adequate levels of investment, the future of our industry is in jeopardy.”

    Earlier, Saudi Arabia – which is in Opec – said the texts agreed today “do not affect our exports, do not affect our ability to sell”.

    • Mirror on the wall says:

      This is from the UN last month. The world is still entirely on course for the worst climate outcome and ‘catastrophic points of no return’ even with the present government pledges that may or may not be met.

      https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/climate-energy/climate-track-warm-by-nearly-3c-without-greater-ambition-un-report-2023-11-20/

      > Climate on track to warm by nearly 3C without aggressive actions, UN report finds

      Summary
      World faces 2.5C-2.9C temperature rise this century
      Chance of limiting warming to 1.5C only 14%
      Global greenhouse gas emissions rose 1.2% from 2021 to 2022

      LONDON, Nov 20 (Reuters) – Countries’ current emissions pledges to limit climate change would still put the world on track to warm by nearly 3 degrees Celsius this century, according to a United Nations analysis released Monday.

      The annual Emissions Gap report, which assesses countries’ promises to tackle climate change compared with what is needed, finds the world faces between 2.5C (4.5F) and 2.9C (5.2F) of warming above preindustrial levels if governments do not boost climate action.

      At 3C of warming, scientists predict the world could pass several catastrophic points of no return, from the runaway melting of ice sheets to the Amazon rainforest drying out.

      “Present trends are racing our planet down a dead-end 3C temperature rise,” said U.N. Secretary-General Antonio Guterres. “The emissions gap is more like an emissions canyon.”

      …. Even in the most optimistic emissions scenario, the chance of now limiting warming to 1.5C is just 14% — adding to a growing body of scientific evidence suggesting the goal is dead.

      Global greenhouse gas emissions rose by 1.2% from 2021 to 2022, reaching a record 57.4 gigatonnes of carbon dioxide equivalent.

      The report assessed countries’ Nationally Determined Contributions (NDCs), which they are required to update every five years, to determine how much the world might warm if these plans were fully implemented.

      It compares unconditional pledges — promises with no strings attached, which would lead to a 2.9C temperature rise — to conditional pledges that would hold warming to 2.5C.

      • So, this is not something we can fix. The temperature each year is what it is, in response to a number of variables.

        I am not convinced that our modeling of future temperatures is all that good.

        I am afraid we have to live with what we get. Perhaps a much smaller population moves toward the poles, if necessary.

        • Mirror on the wall says:

          This is U.N. Secretary-General Antonio Guterres last month.

          Carbon emissions are still spiralling upwards rather than coming down and temperature records are currently being shattered.

          The ‘emissions chasm’ is only getting worse, with broken promises, rather than better. Indeed the equivalent of the entire emissions of the USA, China and the EU would have to go (lol) to get us back on track for 1.5 degrees.

          The world is still entirely headed for a catastrophic 3 degree temperature rise. (COP28 also failed to deliver change.) We are headed for disaster.

          > Climate set to warm by ‘devastating’ 3C, UN warns

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Well actually it’s fake… we’ve been hearing this for many decades now … and it’s aways wrong – cuz it’s fake

          + as most on OFW know… we are near the end of the energy burn … so even if it was real who gives f789s… we will all be dead soon

        • Mike Roberts says:

          Very true, Gail. And modeling may underestimate or overestimate the situation. Best we can do is hope it’s the former.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Boo hoo… boo hoo…

        Boring

    • drb753 says:

      This is still a minor wrinkle in humanity’s fate, no? With as many positives and negatives. it is going to be harder in the Persian Gulf, but the opening of vast swathes of northern land to agriculture, the fertilizing effect of CO2, and the opening of shorter trade routes will improve the lives of many. Let it also be said that warming disproportionately warms the regions near the poles, equatorial regions are the least affected.

      • Mike Roberts says:

        If it stops now, some could argue that there are positives, but it’s not stopping now. Consequently, I can’t think of any positives.

        By the way, the earth stopped greening over 20 years ago. This is just one of several studies which show that. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/earth-stopped-getting-greener-20-years-ago/

      • Dennis L. says:

        drb, it is dirt problem as one goes north.

        Russia is Tundra and permafrost

        Canada is the shield, all the good dirt scoured to the US.

        As for the regions near the poles, sounds like an issue for the Polar Bears.

        Dennis L.

        • Student says:

          In my view, the problem for north America is that US could be slowly conquered from the bottom by people from south American Countries.
          While Canada could be violently conquered by US army.

          • Nope.avi says:

            It’s not an invasion if they’re invited in.
            Also, this is dangerous close to the demographic replacement conspiracy theory
            beling peddled by those on the Right. No one on the Left would ever advocate
            for anything that would increase immigration of latinos in America in for poltical reasons.

          • Nope.avi says:

            We have no idea how animals of other species rate each other in terms of attactiveness. We can only look at how often males get a female pregnant without the use of rape within a given certain population of a specific species of animals.

          • Nope.avi says:

            Have you heard about the Breatharians?

          • Nope.avi says:

            The funny thing now is is that more companies than we realize are are cooking their books like Enron despite the Sarbanes-Oxley Act . I guess it’s okay to commit fraud if the U.S. government supports you.

          • Nope.avi says:

            Large scale college education doesn’t exist to pay for the educations of the 20 percent who are engineers, and other STEM professionals. That is preposterous.

          • Nope.avi says:

            We have no idea how animals of other species rate each other in terms of attactiveness. We can only look at how often males get a female pregnant without the use of rape within a given certain population of a specific species of animals.

          • Smilely says:

            “Pay pigs” are generally men who enjoy the humiliation of sending women money without getting anything in return. Pay pigs worship their findoms — the dominating women — by paying them and gaining gratification from the exchange.

            “They want to be laughed at and called pathetic,” said a findom from Chicago who goes by the name Ellie Paige. “It’s a psychological fetish. What’s more humiliating and pathetic than sending money for nothing in return?”

            https://www.businessinsider.com/side-hustle-with-a-difference-women-making-thousands-from-pay-pigs-2022-7

            Anyone ever notice that sexual fetishes are much more common among men?

      • Student says:

        Yes and in my view, additionally, as middleast is not generally crowded like Europe and people live with minimum standard, they will be affected less than Europeans, who on the contrary think they represent the point of reference for civilization on the world (and everyone should follow their example..)

    • Fred says:

      Yawn. Ramping up the fear porn per usual.

      You’ll be giving up your car(s), aircon and all other modern trappings then?

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Boring

  26. Fast Eddy says:

    Hong Kong deficit balloons to HK$164.1 billion for first 8 months of financial year

    Government reveals financial figures for April to November period, with expenditure reaching HK$472.3 billion and revenue at HK$241.6 billion

    Economist Andy Kwan calls deficit alarming

    https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/hong-kong-economy/article/3246714/hong-kong-deficit-balloons-hk1641-billion-first-8-months-financial-year

    This is what happens when a huge chunk of you revenue comes from govt land sales to developers… and developers are not interested… cuz there is no future

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/22/hong-kong-land-sales-wobble-exposing-cracks-in-citys-finances

  27. Fast Eddy says:

    Global gasoline consumption hit a record 26.9 million barrels per day (bpd) this year, exceeding the 2019 peak and defying estimates that the last pre-pandemic year was the time when gasoline demand worldwide would peak.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/record-global-gasoline-consumption-defies-iea-forecast-ev-hype

    The green groooopies moan in despair

    • Fred says:

      Late 2018 was notionally the last peak in production.

      Has production hit a new peak?

    • Gasoline is made from relatively light oil, such as US tight oil from shale. It is in much better supply compared to diesel and jet fuel, which predominantly comes from heavier oil.

  28. Fast Eddy says:

    OpenVAET replied to your comment on The New Zealand “whistleblower” data is a burger of nothing. And there is no cheese. .

    New session of holidays, for a week. Next time I have to ban you will be permanent.

    https://openvaet.substack.com/p/the-new-zealand-whistleblower-data/comment/46175914?r=15h28a

    Can someone do me a favour and post this:

    You are a low IQ D.unce and there will be no more pearls for you. Go F789 yourself. Please ban me permanently. A message from Fast Eddy The GOAT.

    Let me know when this is live

  29. Mirror on the wall says:

    Russia has done its biggest ever missile strike on UKR with 130 cruise missiles, untold drones and all sorts.

    The strike was not primarily focused on the UKR energy system and Russia seems to have taken a strategic decision last winter not to entirely take it out.

    Rather Russia is depleting UKR air defences, causing UKR to fire off their missiles now to try to stop missiles getting through.

    The UKR air defence broke down last year and that allowed Russia to operate in a big way and that is likely the objective now.

    NATO is desperately running low on patriot missile systems and USA is trying to get them off Japan for UKR.

    Japan is giving up its air defence, shock in Japan, no defence against N Korea or China but USA is desperate in UKR.

    NATO is being demilitarised and USA can no longer replenish UKR air defences this time.

    Commentators in USA did warn about depletion of strategic kit and a potential conflict with China but Biden insists on it.

    Germany and Holland are also stripping themselves of patriot systems, USA is running short and stripping Japan. (UK does not have any serious missile or drone defence in the first place…. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/sep/14/uk-vulnerable-to-potential-missile-or-drone-attack-says-military-chief )

    USA/ NATO are taking the ‘sunk costs’ fallacy to the point of total strategic bankruptcy. (It is a common human tendency…. https://asana.com/resources/sunk-cost-fallacy )

    Likely Russia is looking at a spring/ summer offensive with eyes on the old Russian cities of Odessa in the south across the Dnieper, Dnipropetrovsk on the Dnieper and even Kiev according to hints from Medvedev (deputy chairman of the Security Council of Russia).

    Russia is not letting up this winter with advances on the front, a spring offensive looks likely and it is possible that the war will end in the coming year. Time will tell.

    > Russia winter missile strike. Medvedev hints regime change. Tymoshenko makes move

  30. Fast Eddy says:

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Pamela+Villanueva+dead&iar=news&ia=news

    Well that’s odd… you’d think that would make the news but nope

  31. Fast Eddy says:

    Wonderful SCHAD… delightful!!!

    https://drpanda.substack.com/p/california-dentist-drops-dead-in

    Another News Anchor Collapses Live
    Pamela Villanueva, 30, a reporter and host of a Spanish news program suddenly collapsed live on air yesterday.

    No need to speak Spanish to get what’s happening.

    Video: https://drpanda.substack.com/p/california-dentist-drops-dead-in

    Wow – that’s an awesome video hahahahaha

  32. Fast Eddy says:

    My favourite fake BBG headline today

    Bitcoin Miner Marathon Leads Crypto Stock Surge With Pick-and-Shovel Strategy

  33. adonis says:

    Saudi dove in the oil slick

    Sheikh Yamani tells Oliver Morgan and Faisal Islam why a production cut would hurt everyone – even Opec

    Special report: the petrol war

    Sunday January 14, 2001
    The Observer

    ‘So, you want to talk about oil.’ As understatements go, this one was worthy of a laconic Clint Eastwood. For the man sitting on the other side of a fruit-strewn table, dressed in a well cut three-piece suit, is none other than His Excellency Sheikh Ahmed Zaki Yamani, a man whose name is synonymous with black gold.

    It is late on Friday evening and Yamani is tired. He has flown in from his home in Saudi Arabia’s seaside city, Jeddah, to address the Royal Institute of International Affairs on the future of the oil market.

    As ever he had barely spoken what was on his mind before his words were flashing around the world’s newswires. The man who dominated the oil market as oil minister of Saudi Arabia in the Seventies is no longer a decision-maker at Opec, but he still has it in his power to captivate market traders, executives, politicians – even presidents – with his views.

    His presence in London comes at a fragile time for the world economy, as concerns mount that further jumps in the oil price could tip slowdown in to global recession.

    So, yes, we did want to talk about oil.

    As it happens Yamani does not believe that his commodity was directly responsible for the US economy putting on the brakes: ‘The slowdown in the US cannot really be attributed to the high price of oil. The reason we have a problem now within the US economy is corporate earnings, which are shrinking.’

    However, he believes higher energy costs are a significant factor in slowing US corporate earnings: ‘The corporates are paying more for their energy bills. It is not a direct reflection on industry – but it is on corporate earnings.’

    Against this backdrop he questions the wisdom of Organisation of Petroleum Exporting Countries taking steps to shore up the price of oil by making cuts in production of up to 2 million barrels per day when it meets on Wednesday in Vienna.

    He believes increasing the price could worsen the economic situation in the US – with knock-on effects in the Far East and Europe – to the long-term detriment of producers, as industrialised nations seek other sources of oil, and of power.

    In this, he has remained consistent for 30 years: in the Seventies he was not persuaded of the benefits to Opec of hiking crude prices by the 400 per cent that came about in 1973. The importance of North Sea oil and the fall in Opec’s contribution to global production, from 70 per cent to less than 30 per cent, are testimony to his wisdom.

    Nevertheless, Yamani is only too aware that Opec has the power to influence events in the current climate. He thinks there is a 50 per cent chance that Opec will follow Saudi Arabia’s lead and agree to cuts of 1.5 million barrels per day (bpd).

    However he has made it clear that a cut now would be unwise, because Iraq has reduced its own production from around 1.2million bpd to around 600,000.

    Yamani is especially concerned about the hawkish role played by Venezuela since the arrival of Hugo Chavez as its President. Chavez and his Oil Minister – new Opec Secretary-General Ali Rodriguez – have galvanized the cartel over the past two years in a successful attempt to treble an oil price that had slumped to less than $10. He believes this policy derives from Venezuela’s moves to cut investment in new production.

    ‘In Venezuela it is a new government with a new philosophy. When they came they stopped investment in upstream and the capacity of Venezuela came down. Instead of having 800,000 barrels a day surplus, it disappeared. Now it cannot produce any more [than it is currently].’

    Yamani believes that if hawkish tactics are employed, they will have seriously detrimental implications both for Venezuela and for Opec as a whole.

    ‘There are countries which want to extract every last barrel. They are part of a group who would like to have a higher oil price – Venezuela, Libya, Algeria and Iran.’

    As a result of pressures between these countries and ‘core’ states with huge reserves such as his own Saudi Arabia, he believes Opec itself may begin to unravel.He says candidly: ‘Opec will be less in number.’

    By when?

    ‘Probably by the end of the decade. Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Iran, the United Arab Emirates and Venezuela will be there in future.’

    The sheikh says he does not miss the day-to-day cut and thrust that characterised the Seventies oil crisis. However, it is with a smile that he adds: ‘When you deal with oil you have to take so many other things into consideration.’

    The suggestion is that politics, rather than economics, is the key. And the fascination of oil diplomacy clearly animates him more than the numbers, which he can rattle effortlessly off the top of his elegant head.

    The key political question in his mind now is the same as it was in 1973 – relations between Israel and its Arab neighbours.

    ‘It is very worrying,’ he says. ‘Barak is cornered. He brought back his Foreign Minister from Paris, met him in the airport and said “Go and talk to the Palestinians.” The man is desperate.’

    He singles out the period between 20 January, when President Clinton leaves office, and 6 February, the date of Israeli elections, as especially sensitive times, given recent Middle Eastern history.

    The implications for oil prices are unquantifiable. But Yamani ventures: ‘Perhaps people will panic and think they have to buy oil.’

    However, he is at pains to point out that the global political backdrop is now very different.

    His voice quickens further when he reminisces about the era of great oil diplomacy in the Seventies and his contemporary, former US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger.

    At this point he makes an extraordinary claim: ‘I am 100 per cent sure that the Americans were behind the increase in the price of oil. The oil companies were in in real trouble at that time, they had borrowed a lot of money and they needed a high oil price to save them.’

    He says he was convinced of this by the attitude of the Shah of Iran, who in one crucial day in 1974 moved from the Saudi view, that a hike would be dangerous to Opec because it would alienate the US, to advocating higher prices.

    ‘King Faisal sent me to the Shah of Iran, who said: “Why are you against the increase in the price of oil? That is what they want? Ask Henry Kissinger – he is the one who wants a higher price”.’

    Yamani contends that proof of his long-held belief has recently emerged in the minutes of a secret meeting on a Swedish island, where UK and US officials determined to orchestrate a 400 per cent increase in the oil price.

    These extraordinary insights come as US/Opec relations once again return to the spotlight: President-elect George W Bush last week warned Opec of the implications of a price hike.

    When asked whether oil had proved to be a blessing or a curse for oil-producing countries, the Sheikh smiled enigmatically: ‘I am worried about the future. If you get money so easily, you relax and you lose your muscles.’

    He believes that the oil age will end not for lack of oil, but because of technology. His concern for the long-term economic prospects of his people is clear.

    For him, that cut on Wednesday may be the first step in the wrong direction.

    Fast facts

    ‘Yamani or your life,’ cried one headline during the oil crises of the Seventies. That reflected Sheikh Ahmed Zaki Yamani’s role as the public face of the Opec oil-producer’s cartel.

    Yamani was Saudi Oil Minister from 1962 to 1986. During that time he escaped the assassin who killed King Faisal, and survived kidnapping by Carlos ‘The Jackal’.

    He now chairs the respected Centre for Global Energy Studies, famous for its exhaustive knowledge of world trends. He also runs the Al-Furqan Islamic Heritage Centre in south London.

    Last year Yamani said that the oil prices were destined to crash in the long term and, the world would never use up the last drop of oil, because it would not need to: ‘The Stone Age did not come to an end because we had a lack of stones, and the oil age will not come to an end because we have a lack of oil.’

    • This article was published in January 2001. This was near the end of a long period when oil prices had been very low. This was a problem for US producers as well as producers around the world.

      Once prices started rise, things started to normalize.

  34. Someone mentioned Gilligan’s Island a few days ago.

    When the show aired in 1964, there was still something called class, and so other than the main sailor duo, the cast were described as “The Millionaire and his wife, the Movie star and the rest”.

    The Millionaire was considered to be worthy, and the movie star was also considered to be worthy. There was no room for “The rest”.

    That is when Civilization was still alive.

    The year after, ‘the rest’ began to be mentioned. The Professor, actually a high school teacher in who knows where, and Mary Ann, a redneck from Kansas, began to be recognized to be worth mentioning, showing a huge change in 1960s. (There is a legend that the actor playing Gilligan would quit if the theme song did not mention the names of the above)

    Not recognizing ‘the rest’ is the foundation of civilization. Resources are scarce and only the ‘worthies’ deserve to have good things, as the General in The Naked and the Dead, mentioned.

    Written by Norman Mailer, who actually served in the mess hall during the Pacific War, the General orders all the good cuts of meat , etc to be put into the officer’s mess only, and NOT for the grunts. He said good things have to be reserved for the rank. An idealistic young officer from an Ivy school protests, and he is sent to the front where he gets killed by one of the grunts.

    Caste system is the only thing which will keep civilization going. No more Teslas, Hermeses and Louis Vuittons by those who are not worthy. No more petroleum consumption for the laborers. They can learn how to walk 4 hrs each way to work per day.

  35. adonis says:

    what do they know? “A London-based oil market-maker and derivatives trading firm, Mandara Capital, is in the process of winding down operations, the company’s founder told Bloomberg on Thursday.

    Last week, two sources familiar with the matter told Business Insider that Mandara Capital was shutting down operations after 13 years in the business of derivatives trading in crude and refined products.
    The company’s founder Muwaffaq Salti confirmed the report to Bloomberg this week, but declined to elaborate on the reasons for the winding down of the business.

    Mandara Capital was founded in 2009 by Salti, who was previously global head of fuel oil trading at JP Morgan Chase. Before joining JP Morgan, Salti was a trader in oil and commodities at other Wall Street giants, Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley.

    In May 2010, Mandara Capital started trading crude futures and fuel oil derivatives.

  36. Dennis L. says:

    Okay, end of 2024.

    Skimmed Kunstler, he has been wrong more than correct so I don’t follow much.

    Noted earlier watched “The Robe.” Early Christians were not a welcome lot in the Roman Empire, they still exist, Roman empire is a pile of stone. Russia where humanism was practiced to extremes, Stalin comes to mind. I think Stalin killed most of the first Communists; some reward for all that work and thought. How did the Catholic Church survive Communism and Stalin?

    Point: some things seem to exist and flourish under extreme pressure, perhaps they die without it, e.g. in US. The world seems to have its own path, we discover it, sometimes make a wrong turn and then find a better path.

    Mearsheimer and Pinker have a debate on YouTube

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNVm-oXFK9k

    I am a realist, don’t think humanism works, it is the individual and I have only been successful in groups so personal bias.

    Pinker, a humanist, is brilliant, I am envious of extreme intellect, but perhaps he suffers from hubris. “Therefore, hubris is inseparable from Nemesis, the goddess of vengeance, charged with punishing whoever has indulged in such intoxication in any form.” Elisabeth Roudinesco.

    What I continue to see among various thinkers is the idea we discover the universe, we do not invent rules to understand it or make it do our bidding. We discover as we are able to understand, and some times get an inspiration, “Let there be light” before we discover the cosmos and the big bang. This is not rational thought, this is not the enlightenment, it is a path to understanding.

    Raw materials on earth are so yesterday, Starship moves on and so will we, biology are to date the epitome of the known universe. Or, someone has their thumb on the scale, go with the flow.

    We have much more to discover, it is a journey, ideas which fail are eventually rejected even if it takes much time and pain, e.g. Stalin. Presently it is perhaps a good time to keep one’s head down and butt well protected but keep an eye out for opportunity.

    Dennis L.

    • The Robe. Another silly xtian novel. Probably a precursor to the civil right movements where the elite master dies to save a slave. The Slave, meanwhile, becomes a gladiator, abandons xtianity and has all the fun he has. The movie had to end in a predictable tone but the master, essentially, died for nothing.

    • Starship does not exist.

      You are moving imaginary objects.

    • Mirror on the wall says:

      Dennis, I would be interested to hear how you think that the Sermon on the Mount provides a realistic basis for civilization of any kind or even for survival in this world with its laws for strict poverty, pacifism, agreement with adversaries and no recourse to civil law, no resistance of evil, indeed no thought for the provision of the material means of life.

      Surely the point is that early Christianity did not survive, ‘Christianity’ was made the state religion and the basic move now is to deny that any of the Sermon means what it says. Let us not fool ourselves, that is not ‘early Christianity’ and it is basically the complete opposite. Likewise after the collapse peoples are not going to survive by living by the words of Jesus.

      You may have a personal need to pretend that you are in any sense a Christian in the sense of ‘early Christians’ and that Christianity provides any basis, indeed the best, for life in this world but you are not fooling anyone with _any_ of that nonsense. You are not a Christian in the early sense and that anyway provides no realistic basis for life in this world.

      You follow the opposite of early Christianity and indeed your arguments about what ‘works’ are much closer to Nietzsche than to Jesus. Christianity has got nothing to do with what ‘works’ in this world. It is an apocalyptic religion that is all about getting a place in the next world by rejecting this one and living in a moralistic way that is incompatible with life in this world. Let us be honest about that for a change?

      > Sermon On The Mount

      Matthew 5 KJV

      1 And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him:

      2 And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying,
      3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
      4 Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
      5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
      6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
      7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
      8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
      9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
      10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness’ sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
      11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
      12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

      …. 21 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
      22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

      …. 25 Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison.

      …. 38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
      39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
      40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also.
      41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.
      42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.
      43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
      44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

      …. Matthew Chapter 6 KJV

      19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
      20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
      21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

      …. 25 Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?
      26 Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?
      27 Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?
      28 And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin:
      29 And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.
      30 Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith?
      31 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?
      32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.
      33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
      34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.

      • Dennis L. says:

        Mirror:

        Don’t have a clue, no sarcasm.

        I think we forgive others so we can forgive ourselves for placing trust in them. My feeling is after that, Next.

        “Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.”

        I can go with this one, I prepare like hell and tomorrow prepare again. All I can do is live in the present which is not the same as living only for the present.

        Perhaps that sermon has something in it for most/all and one picks and choses hoping it will work out now and then for one’s self.

        Sort of a pick and choose I guess.

        When push comes to shove with resources, choosing one’s fights will be important, not every neighbor will be first choice but something is often better than nothing and perhaps they might forgive my small imperfections.

        Best I can do.

        Dennis L.

      • Perhaps you should think about this sermon as a plea for balance.

        We all know that humans have a drive to succeed–to provide adequately for their families, and to build businesses that will employ others and help them succeed. This seems to be a plea for balance. Don’t focus excessively on these things. It is easy to get carried away with the lust for power and “more stuff.”

        People today are certain that the US$ is a store of value. But it cannot be, if the amount of resources per capita is declining. Thus, it makes no sense to focus on storing up money for tomorrow. Take care of your family and also your own health. In the future, you will probably need to work. If you can’t work, it may need to be your family who will need to support you, if they can (and choose to).

        I know that I was perfectly happy when I went to graduate school and lived on a small stipend that was paid to me. It was enough for food, rent, and public transportation. I had a housemate, with whom I was quite compatible. (I had written to the graduate school and asked if there were any other single female graduate students I might live with, and someone wrote back, “The other female graduate student is ________.” ) We picked out an apartment together, and it worked out fine.

        Being happy with what you have is an important part of being happy. And forgiving others, and yourself, for things that don’t work out is important, too.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          That’s the problem with the decline — we can tighten for awhile but eventually that leads to the deflationary death spiral that is so feared.

        • Mirror on the wall says:

          Jesus himself explained at the end of the Sermon on the Mount (see below) that the observation of his sayings/ commandments in that Sermon are the condition of entering favourably into the next world.

          Christianity is an apocalyptic religion that is all about how to be ‘saved’ in the ‘kingdom of God’ that is nigh. It is not about success or about in any sense a ‘good life’ in this world. As Jesus says, ‘blessed are those who mourn, those who weep, the poor &c.’ So it is not about ‘balance’, it is about saving your ar/e from the fire and getting into the kingdom through a moralism that rejects this world and the conditions of life in it.

          That is Synoptic Gospels. John with his Gospel and Paul with his Epistles, keep the thing about the end of the world is nigh and about salvation but they shift the doctrine away from salvation through ‘works’ and toward ‘faith alone’. The difference on works/ faith is reflected in the Catholic/ Protestant division.

          If you are going for ‘faith alone’ rather than ‘works’ as the precondition of ‘salvation’ then it kind of makes sense to read the Sermon on the Mount in a mitigated way but that is not what it is actually about.

          But to be fair to all, the NT does give contrary doctrines in the first place.

          > Matthew 7

          21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
          22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
          23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
          24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
          25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
          26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
          27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
          28 And it came to pass, when Jesus had ended these sayings, the people were astonished at his doctrine:
          29 For he taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes.

          Also famously Matthew 25 and the ‘sheep and the goats’ and various other places in the Synoptics.

          • Jesus spoke at a time of economic expansion. Jerusalem was on a major trade route, and Bethlehem was nearby. There were kings from the East coming bearing gifts. Jesus talked about what to do, in the time in which he was living.

            If we look at what Jeremiah is saying in Lamentations regarding the fall of Jerusalem, we have quite a different picture. It is one of collapse. Lamentation 4 starts out:

            1. How the gold has lost its luster,
            the fine gold become dull!
            The sacred gems are scattered
            at every street corner.

            This reminds a person of the Revelation 18, which seems to be warning of a future collapse, similar to the collapse of Babylon. It also talks about the loss of value of what had been wealth:

            11 “The merchants of the earth will weep and mourn over her because no one buys their cargoes anymore— 12 cargoes of gold, silver, precious stones and pearls; fine linen, purple, silk and scarlet cloth; every sort of citron wood, and articles of every kind made of ivory, costly wood, bronze, iron and marble; 13 cargoes of cinnamon and spice, of incense, myrrh and frankincense, of wine and olive oil, of fine flour and wheat; cattle and sheep; horses and carriages; and human beings sold as slaves.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            Didn’t Jesus hook up with a prostitute? If he returned today would he be spending most of his time in Gents clubs snorting high grade?

        • Smiley says:

          Being happy with what you have is a lot easier if
          1. You are very extroverted . A highly extroverted individual would try to make people holding him prsioner and planning to kill him or her laugh or at least get to know them better.

          2. The expectations of child.

          3. You have a strong “support system” where success and failure is not a high-stakes endevour. Being comfortable means you can deal with risk, failure, and set-backs a lot easier.

          That said, many religions encourage people to carry grudges and not to forgive others who trespass against you. Hell exists because God carries grudges and does not forgive everyone.

  37. Rodster says:

    “Do You Dare Even Look? — Forecast 2024” by JHK
    https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/do-you-dare-even-look-forecast-2024/

    Excerpts: My natural inclination, you know, is a kind of allergy to paranoid schemes, but one does survey the scene with wonder at how superbly coordinated the fuckery has been — much of the world locking down simultaneously for the Covid-19 op. . . the global mass vaxx campaign. . . the fiscal lunacy and accompanying central bank shenanigans. . . the broad-based censorship operations. . . the capture of the news media. . . and the war-mongering.

    The Energy Picture: Oil still matters a lot. 90-percent of the new oil in America after 2008 came from fracking. It was a mighty operation and we are at a new all-time production peak in the USA of just over 13-million barrels a day. That’s a lot of oil, quite an achievement, but it’s sending a false signal. (Also note, we still consume about 20-million barrels a day.) Of the several fabled shale oil basins in America, only the Permian Basin in Texas is not in decline, and the situation there belies what the big numbers imply. Individual well production is going down at an alarming rate (says oil analyst Art Berman) even while production is massive for now. We’re draining the remaining “sweet spots” as fast as we can — drinking the milkshake through more straws — driving the shale industry closer to depletion.

    Oil still matters, a lot. It drives every aspect of our so-called advanced economy. We’ve been pretending it’s possible to shift easily away from oil to alt. energy and that fantasy is now dissipating. Nuclear is both capital intensive and dependent on social stability, and the global debt bubble will disorder capital flows while it stimulates social chaos. Nuclear power plants also take years to site, permit, finance, and build, apart from the NIMBY opposition they provoke. We’re about out of time and capital for a new nuclear program.

    The Covid 19 Hangover: There is nothing about the whole Covid-19 episode that does not look like some kind of crime. There is the matter of the origin of the disease involving Dr. Tony Fauci and his sponsorship of gain-of-function bio-weapon research (during a declared moratorium on it) along with Ralph Baric of the University of North Carolina, Peter Daszak of the Eco-Health Alliance, Francis Collins of the NIH, The Pentagon’s DARPA spook shop, and the CCP’s Wuhan Virology Institute. There is enough in that set of relationships and money exchanges-and-extractions to warrant prosecution.

    The Demon in a Server: Are the big server farm buildings run by Amazon and the government’s security agencies protected by something like Faraday cages, built-in, grounded, metal screening that surrounds equipment to exclude electrostatic and electromagnetic influences? Who knows? Do they have on-site protected electric generators that can keep the equipment running in a grid-down situation, and if so, for how long? They would have to include a big supply of propane or diesel fuel. You don’t even want to think about what happens to nuclear power stations in a grid-down crisis.

    • Thanks! I will be boarding a plane to fly back to Atlanta shortly. Hopefully, I will internet access on the plane, too.

      I want to read JHK’s whole post, but I haven’t had a chance yet.

      • Rodster says:

        A couple of tips:

        You can always add those things prior to not having internet access by adding it to your offline reading list. That way it doesn’t matter if you have internet access or not because it has been downloaded to that device.

        Another tip is, depending on your mobile provider, you can create a hotspot on via your phone and then you can connect to it from a laptop , tablet or other device.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        The Energy Picture

        Oil still matters a lot. 90-percent of the new oil in America after 2008 came from fracking. It was a mighty operation and we are at a new all-time production peak in the USA of just over 13-million barrels a day. That’s a lot of oil, quite an achievement, but it’s sending a false signal. (Also note, we still consume about 20-million barrels a day.) Of the several fabled shale oil basins in America, only the Permian Basin in Texas is not in decline, and the situation there belies what the big numbers imply. Individual well production is going down at an alarming rate (says oil analyst Art Berman) even while production is massive for now. We’re draining the remaining “sweet spots” as fast as we can — drinking the milkshake through more straws — driving the shale industry closer to depletion.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        In the meantime, pretending that the old “toolkit” still avails, Jerome Powell has suggested that he intends to “ease” Fed rates into the election year to goose lending back up, which is what Fed chairpersons generally do for the politicians they serve — and of the worst sort of lending, too: the leveraged trade in securities (financial figments) —which supposedly also stimulates hiring, “consumer” spending, and business formation. I don’t see that working at all. The current unemployment rate (US BLS) is 3.7 percent, which is close to rock bottom. “Hiring Now!” signs are visible at every business left standing after the Covid shutdowns. Why is nobody answering the call? My guess is that Covid vaccine injuries and disabilities are above what is mis-reported even reluctantly by the CDC and the news media. America is too sick to work and our business models are too broken to keep commerce and manufacturing alive.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Anyway, that was then. What’s now is that we’re faced with an enormous vaccinated population whose immune systems, brains, hearts, and other organs have been badly compromised by the mRNA shots. There is every reason to believe that they will meet with great distress and suffering going forward, that many will die and more will be left injured and disabled. The latter condition already seems to be manifesting in the otherwise mysteriously reduced American work-force. The US government will not report on vaccine deaths and injuries honestly, and neither will the private medical authorities, who may be liable for criminal charges related to the money they were paid for people who died “with Covid” in hospitals under their negligent care. The major newspapers and cable channels have every incentive to ignore the coming wave of vaccine deaths and injuries — it would turn off their pharma advertisers. Nor do the many millions of vaccinated Americans themselves want to hear about all the mayhem those shots are causing in their bodies. But despite all that, word will spread that something terrible is happening, just as word spread through Europe about the Black Death in the 1340s, when there were no newspapers, cable channels, or internet.

    • Withnail says:

      The Demon in a Server: Are the big server farm buildings run by Amazon and the government’s security agencies protected by something like Faraday cages, built-in, grounded, metal screening that surrounds equipment to exclude electrostatic and electromagnetic influences?

      It doesn’t matter because the internet doesnt matter. Food matters. Electricity matters. Diesel fuel matters.

  38. Jan says:

    Perhaps someone can understand this study better than me?

    The structure of the lipid nano particles seems other than thought and to react with the mRNA.

    If I understand that right, this could neutralize the proper and improper work of the mRNA.

    “Our experimental data and theoretical considerations suggest that the highly convoluted mRNA strains are condensed in the core of NPs primarily by temperature-dependent weak inter- and intramolecular interactions, involving hydrogen bonds and, depending on the actual pH, ionic bonds with IPC lipids.”

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10373524/

    The authors refer to the strong antibody reaction though – but if I understand that right the measured antibody reaction is not specific and could be caused by a lot of mechanims.

    To summarize: if I understand that right, if the ph value is not right, the jabs may be destroyed before injection, because the lipid nano particles chemically interact with the mRNA.

    If that be true, all ideas about longtime effects, DNA integration and Binary Poison are void because mRNA has never been injected but something else.

    It is complicated because batches underly different production processes and the results of this chemical reaction may also be toxic.

    • adonis says:

      the vaccines and virtually all medicines are designed to kill us if u cant see that then the elders have cleverly brainwashed u of course the conventional story will always sound that everything is safe and effective but we know better a little bit of poison every day or once a month or every three months in whatever form and eventually they will get u and remember the golden rule the elders are continually chanting it is safe and effective,we are lambs for the slaughter to them .

      • Jan says:

        @adonis

        I agree to that!

        If I get that right the lipid nano particles are meant to wrap around the mRNA for protection. The findings are now that this is not the case, the nano lipids form a liquid mass with the mRNA and cause a chemical reaction.

        If that is true the design failed.

    • Agamemnon says:

      Hopefully your right.
      The challenge was protecting the rna strand before the immune sys destroyed it.
      Why medical professionals were fired was bewildering.
      If they were ignored a lot more people would have taken it because that resistance wouldn’t have been noticed.

  39. davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

    just 3 days until 2024.

    it is a beautiful thing.

    quite lovely.

    this could go on for a while.

    • Withnail says:

      Nothing happens other than hysterical posting on OFW. (Not by me obviously, I am calm and measured).

    • ivanislav says:

      I am going to make a BAU chant/song for us Finite Worlders. It will take me some time, but I should have it ready for BAU 2030.

      • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

        Doomer you’re a boy make a big noise ranting in the street gonna B A U someday

        You got doom on your face, you big disgrace
        Kicking your can down the road today

        (singing)

        We will, we will rock BAU
        We will, we will rock BAU

  40. Fast Eddy says:

    https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/working-life/embarrassed-your-cough-sick-shaming-leads-overuse-cold-medicine

    Notice how the Vaxxers try to hide their illnesses…. you know what that is… it’s them trying to convince themselves that the Rat Juice is Effective… but the never ending sniffles and coughs (VAIDS) is messaging them that it’s not effective… so they try to pretend that they are not sick… they prefer not to accept that they have f789ed their immune systems

    • Replenish says:

      Dad’s girlfriend brought home Covid from the senior center Bridge Club before Thanksgiving and got him sick before deer hunting season. Last week, she (3x jabbed) got sick again after playing cards with the ladies and got Dad (un-jabbed) sick. He was not himself when cooking for the family Christmas party and ruined $100 of peeled, de-veined shrimp. The Vax ruined X-mas!

      • Dennis L. says:

        New girlfriend?

        Dennis L.

      • adonis says:

        tell him to take up drinking many partners i know with triple jabbed spouses dont get sick

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Imagine being single and unvaxxed…. how could you possibly date a vaxxer?

          A mentally ill brainwashed TFI? It’s one thing if your existing partner drank the kool aid — but to meet someone new who was a believer…. impossible.

          Even hooking up with one of these dun.ces would present a problem — you could overlook the fact that she was a re tar ded Vaxxer … who is addicted to tik tok videos and watching Dancing with Stars… but there is the shedding issue… you dip the wick in there and you end up with VAIDS….. sheesh ….

          Basically your options are to opt for celibacy .. or shag mentally ill diseased TFIs….

          You could try to find an A Vaxxer but they are also mentally ill and will drive you out of your mind with Great Reset and it’s about $$$ theories.. or 5G or whatever… sure there is not the shedding thing but the irritation of listening to them repeat whatever they’ve been told to think…

          Did I mention I stopped visiting the Gents Club? They are all vaxxed and a huge turn off….

      • ivanislav says:

        You probably won’t like to hear this, but if your dad is getting sick and mentally off, it’s his own health and vigor playing a role more than those around him. You may not like the girlfriend for whatever reasons, but disease transmission and its consequences are just part of being an animal.

  41. Fast Eddy says:

    Should this be a concern? https://t.me/EdwardDowdReal/524

  42. Fast Eddy says:

    This has the feel of conditioning the MOREONS to accept that collapse is baked in … it’s both D-Moralizing … and hopeful… yes we are f789ed think the MOREONS but if I buy some gold I will survive…

    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/first-costco-now-walmart-major-retailers-now-offer-gold-bars

    Word of the Day – D.unce.

    noun
    A stu.pid person; a dolt.

    Anyone who believes we can fly through the Van Allen Belts and survive – then land on the moon — is a D.unce. aka a TFI

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