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It is now popular to talk about leaving fossil fuels to prevent climate change. Pretty much the same result occurs if we run short of fossil fuels: We lose fossil fuels, but it is because we cannot extract them. Practically no one tells us about the extent to which the current system depends upon fossil fuels, however.
The economy is extraordinarily dependent on fossil fuels. If there are not enough fossil fuels to go around, there is likely to be fighting over what is available. Some countries are likely to get far more than their fair share, while the rest of the world’s population will be left with very little or no fossil fuels.
If losing fossil fuels completely, or nearly completely, is a risk for some of the world’s population, it might be useful to think through some of the things that go wrong. The following are some of my ideas about things that change, mostly for the worse, in a fossil fuel-deprived economy.
[1] Banks, as we know them, will likely fail.
Before banks fail in areas with virtually no fossil fuels, my guess is that we will generally see hyperinflation. Governments will greatly increase the money supply in a vain attempt to get people to believe that more goods and services are being produced. This approach will be used because people equate having more money with the ability to buy more goods and services. Unfortunately, without fossil fuels it will be very difficult to produce very many goods.
More money will simply provide more inflation because it takes physical resources, including the proper types of energy, to operate machinery of all kinds to make goods. Creating services also requires fossil fuel energy, but generally, to a lesser extent than creating goods. For example, the pair of scissors used in cutting hair is made using fossil fuel energy. The person cutting hair needs to be paid; his or her pay needs to be high enough to cover energy-related costs such as buying and cooking food to eat. The shop where hair cutting is operated will also need to pay for the fossil fuel energy required for heat and light, assuming such energy is even available.
Banks will fail because too large a share of debts cannot be repaid with interest. Part of the problem will be that while wages will rise, the prices of goods and services will rise even faster, making goods unaffordable. Another part of the problem is that service economies, such as those of the US and eurozone, will be disproportionately affected by a declining economy. In such an economy, people will get their hair cut less often. Instead, they will spend their money on essentials, including food, water, and cooking supplies. Service-providing businesses, such as hair salons and restaurants, will fail for lack of customers, leading to defaults on their debts.
[2] Today’s governments will fail.
With failing banks, today’s governments will also fail. Partly, they will fail because of attempts to bail out banks. Another problem will be declining tax revenue because fewer goods and services are produced. Pension programs will become increasingly difficult to fund. All these issues will lead to increasingly divisive politics. In some cases, central governments may dissolve, leaving states and other smaller units, such as today’s provinces, to continue on their own.
Intergovernmental organizations, such as the United Nations and NATO, will find their voices becoming less and less heeded before they fail. Getting sufficient funding from member states will become an increasing problem.
Dictatorships ruled by leaders who wield absolute power and aristocracies ruled by leaders with hereditary rights are the types of governments with the least energy requirements. These are likely to become more common without fossil fuels.
[3] Nearly all of today’s businesses will fail.
Fossil fuels are essential for all kinds of businesses. They are used in the extraction of raw materials and in the transportation of goods. We use fossil fuels to pave roads and to build nearly all of today’s buildings. Without fossil fuels, even simple repairs of existing infrastructure become impossible. Without adequate fossil fuels, international companies are especially at risk of breaking into smaller units. They will find it impossible to operate in parts of the world with virtually no fossil fuel supply.
Fossil fuels are even used in making solar panels, wind turbines, and replacement parts for electric vehicles. Talking about solar and wind as “renewables” is to a significant extent misleading. At best, they can be described as fossil fuel “extenders.” They might help a problem of a slightly low fossil fuel supply, but they are far from adequate substitutes.
[4] Grid electricity and the internet will disappear.
Fossil fuels are important for maintaining the electrical transmission system. For example, restoring downed power lines after storms requires fossil fuels. Hooking up solar panels or wind turbines to the electric grid requires fossil fuels. Home solar panel systems may operate until their inverters fail. Once their inverters fail, their usefulness will be greatly degraded. Fossil fuels are needed to manufacture new inverters.
Fossil fuels are also important for maintaining every part of the internet system. Furthermore, without grid electricity, it becomes impossible to use computers to connect to the internet.
[5] International trade will be scaled back greatly.
At this time of year, many of us remember the story of the three kings from the East coming to visit the baby Jesus with precious gifts. We also remember stories in the Bible of Paul traveling to distant countries. From these and many other examples, we know that international trade and travel can continue without fossil fuels.
The problem is that without fossil fuels, some parts of the world will have very little to offer in return for goods made with fossil fuels. Countries with fossil fuels will quickly figure out that government debt from countries without fossil fuels doesn’t really mean much when it comes to paying for goods and services. As a result, trade will be scaled back to match available exports. Exports of goods will likely be very limited for parts of the world operating without fossil fuels.
[6] Agriculture will become much less efficient.
Today’s agriculture has been made unbelievably efficient using large mechanical equipment, generally powered by diesel, together with a huge number of chemicals, including herbicides, insecticides, and fertilizers. In addition, fences and netting made with fossil fuels are used to keep out unwanted animal pests. In some cases, greenhouses are used to provide a controlled climate for plants. Using fossil fuels, specialized hybrid seeds are developed that emphasize characteristics that farmers consider desirable. All these “helps” will tend to disappear.
Without these helps, agriculture will become much less efficient. Figure 1 shows that even with the small cutback in fossil fuel use in 2020, the share of employment provided by agriculture rose.
Employment in agriculture is essential. These workers did not get laid off, even as workers in tourism and workers making fancy clothes lost their jobs, so agricultural jobs as a share of total employment rose.
[7] Future labor needs are likely to be disproportionately in the agricultural sector.
People need to eat. Even if the economy is operating in a very inefficient manner, people will need food. The share of people in agriculture (including hunting and gathering) can be expected to rise considerably.
Some people hope that a shift to the use of permaculture will solve the problem of the dependence of agriculture on fossil fuels. I see permaculture as mostly a fossil-fuel extender, rather than a solution for getting along without fossil fuels, because it assumes the use of many fossil fuel-based devices, such as modern fences and today’s tools. Also, at best, permaculture only partly solves the inefficiency problem because it requires a huge amount of hands-on labor.
Today, there is a wide divide between the share of employment in agriculture in the United States and in the same statistic for the UN group of least developed countries. Most of these countries are in sub-Saharan Africa. They use very little fossil fuels.
The US share of employment in agriculture has recently been about 1.7%. In the part of Europe using the Euro, the share of employment in agriculture has recently averaged about 3.0%. In either the US or Europe, it would take a huge change in employment to get to 70% in agricultural employment (as seen early in the 1990s for the UN least developed group), or even to 55% (as experienced recently by the same group).
[8] Home heating will become a luxury item available only to the wealthy.
Without fossil fuels, wood will come into high demand for its heat value. Wood will be needed for cooking food; it is very difficult to subsist on a diet of all raw foods. Wood will also be in demand for making charcoal, which in turn can be used to smelt some metals. With these demands on wood, deforestation is likely to become a major problem in many parts of the world. Wood in general will be quite expensive, given the considerable cost of harvesting and transporting it over long distances without the benefit of fossil fuels.
People living in sparsely populated wooded areas may be able to gather their own wood for home heating. For other people, home heating will likely become a luxury, affordable only by the very rich.
[9] Living alone will become a thing of the past.
Without enough heat, and with barely enough wood for cooking, people (and their animals) will have to huddle together more. Homes housing multiple generations, built over a place for keeping farm animals, may again become popular. It will be more efficient to cook for large groups than for one person at a time. People in cold areas will huddle together with each other in beds to keep warm. Or they will huddle together with their dogs, as in the saying, three dog night, meaning a night that is cold enough to need to have three dogs to keep a person warm.
Even in warm parts of the world, people will live together in groups, simply because maintaining a household for a single person will become impossibly expensive. Food and fuel for cooking will take up a huge share of a family’s income. There will be little left over for other expenses.
[10] Governments and their laws will shrink in importance. Instead, new traditions and new religions will play a greater role in keeping order.
Governments have made dozens of promises, but without a growing supply of fossil fuels (or an adequate substitute), they will not be able to keep them. Pensions will be gone. The ability of governments to enforce ownership laws will likely disappear. Without any good substitute for fossil fuels, mass disorder is a likely outcome.
People crave order. Without order, it is impossible to conduct business. We know from recent experience that “sustainability groups,” put together by people with a common interest in sustainability tend not to work well enough to provide order. They tend to fall apart as soon as obstacles arise.
What has seemed to work to provide order in the past is some combination of traditions and religions. With a changing world, both traditions and religions are likely to need to change. In the book, Communities that Abide, by Dmitry Orlov et al., the authors point out that having a strong (non-elected) leader, and a shared set of religious beliefs, helps keep a group together. In fact, it helps if the group is somewhat persecuted. Fighting for a common cause is part of what keeps the group together.
The Ten Commandments in the Bible are interpreted in a way that strongly suggests that they are rules for behavior within the group, not for behavior in general. For example, “Thou shalt not kill,” applies to other members of the group; wars against other groups were very much expected. In those wars, killing of members of another group was expected. This would seem to allow Israel’s killing of members of Hamas, today. Without enough fossil fuels to go around, fighting becomes more frequent.
Conclusion
In my opinion, the problem the world is facing today is like one that smaller economies have faced, over and over, in the past: The population has become too large for the economy’s resource base, which now includes fossil fuels. Today’s leaders reframe the problem as voluntarily moving away from fossil fuels to prevent climate change in order to make the situation sound less frightening.
As I see the situation, the world needs to scale down its use of fossil fuels because, ultimately, the laws of physics determine selling prices for fossil fuels. We extract the inexpensive-to-produce fossil fuels first. The problem is that fossil fuel selling prices cannot rise arbitrarily high. Prices must be both:
- High enough for producers to make a profit, with funds left over for reinvestment and for adequate taxes for their governments.
- Low enough for consumers to afford to buy food and other consumer goods produced with these fossil fuels.
If we assume that all the fossil fuels that seem to be under the ground can really be extracted, climate change from burning them may indeed be a problem. But it is hard to see that they can really be extracted, given the affordability issue. Politicians will hold down prices to get voters to vote for them if nothing else.
Researchers have been working diligently to find solutions, but to date, their success has been poor. Every supposed solution requires significant use of fossil fuels. So, we need to think through what might happen if we are forced to get along without fossil fuels and without an adequate substitute.
The UEP or so-called Great Taking is justifiable. I don’t know whether they are doable at this point of time or not, but they are , in a utilitarian way, justifiable.
These concentrate resources from those who are less able to those who are more able, since that increases the utility of it.
The Social Darwinistic principle of cutting down the weak and giving whatever they had to the top should be encouraged to facilitate the advance of civilization.
There is no other way to do that.
https://www.spglobal.com/marketintelligence/en/mi/research-analysis/global-factory-job-losses-gather-pace-as-demand-weakness-persists-at-close-of-2023-Jan24.html
The global manufacturing sector remained firmly stagnant in December, according to the latest JPMorgan Global Manufacturing Purchasing Managers’ Index™ (PMI®) produced by S&P Global. The headline PMI – a composite index based on five survey variables – registered 49.0, down from 49.3 in November, indicating a modest further deterioration in the business situation.
As new orders continue to decline, producers continue to rely on backlogged orders to avoid a steeper drop in production, but the even sharper depletion of these backlogs poses downside risks to production in the next months. As a result, companies have accelerated the pace at which they are cutting both staff and input purchases, preparing for lower production needs in 2024.
In this environment, demand-driven price pressures remain disinflationary, although there is some concern heading into 2024 that supply chain disruptions could worsen, adding some upward pressure on prices of traded goods.
World PMI at 49.0, down from 49.3 in November, sounds like a major problem.
Normally the CBs would reduce rates and flood the planet with cash… but now we have The Inflation … which will >>> hyperinflation if they do that….
Anyone have any other ideas to help them kick the can down the road … other than UEP and The Pathogen?
US would like to forge ahead at a fast rate, with higher US$, while everyone else becomes too poor to buy the output of the world economy. While the average world PMI is now under 50, the US would somehow like to think that high interest rates will induce all investors to invest in the US, so its PMI can somehow end up above 50. The hope is that the US can somehow succeed, while the rest of the world sinks lower.
Zerohedge has an article forecasting hyperinflation:
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/us-debt-hits-record-34001-trillion
Lots of charts.
That’s a tough one, one guess is those in power wish to stay in power will print money. Another guess is this does not work and deflation.
From TM once again:
“All we can really do is work out the pattern of stresses in the system, thereby trying to push the odds in directions favourable for ourselves.”
The Irish blessing seems appropriate, “May the wind always be at your back and sun upon your face. And may the wings of destiny carry you aloft to dance with the stars.” I really like the dancing with the stars part, but first a good asteroid.
Dennis L.
Yeah they are all wrong hyper deflation first.
Good point, maybe not all one’s eggs in one basket and make scrambled eggs out of the ones which crack.
It is a real conundrum and perhaps sooner rather than later its time is coming.
Dennis L.
We have forces in two directions. How it works out may vary from area to area.
… but since there is no way to reverse the catastrophic outcome, there is no point in even talking about it.
Similarly … why would they go on and on and on about GW … if it was real (it is not) then why talk about it???? Why suggest that renewable energy and EVs are a solution when clearly they are NOT. There is another agenda that’s why… they want the TFIs to believe we are transitioning … that the future is wonderful…. green … amazing… fantastic…… Delightful!
As we can see — they have been successful.
I was at the Toyota dealer yesterday — all the new models of vehicles they are selling are hybrid now. Even the 4×4 trucks are hybrid…. that adds about 10% to the price…
They sales guy was telling me about how green they are — and I said there’s not much green going on in the Congo where 8 yr olds are mining the cobalt that goes into the batteries…
Alas he is a TFI… cnnbbc has convinced him… if anyone wants to walk in his shoes… just continue believing the UKEY war is real and India is on the moon…. he feels as certain that a couple of tonnes of metal and plastic with a battery … is environmentally friendly … cuz the battery….
Well, it’s not a problem. As Dmitry Orlov once sarked, all you need to do is add exponentials to the figures. Sorted! Respect due. 🙂 And then later, add exponentials to the exponentials. We have the computing power!
Actually it’s easier than that. CBDC have a timestamp. Make the money expire or simply cut a zero every month. So your million dollars now will be worth $1 in six months.
As always, the oligarchs will recycle their money through the banks so they are always “new”.
Don’t you love to be surrounded by willing slaves?
Citing information from Rystad Energy, Steve St Angelo posted on his paywall site new traditional oil discoveries were (will be) down to a record low of 3.5 billon barrels in 2023. So we are are using 6 barrels of traditional oil for every new barrel we discover, despite having expended more in exploration last year ( but this was not compared) In 2020, there were 5.5 billion barrels discovered. So all in all, declining new discoveries. Are share holders demanding immediate returns, hence less cap-ex , or is this the unmistakable beginning of declining traditional oil production?
Thicker straws will be in vogue for another few years, before skinny ones will be all that are needed. The new meme will be you can’t get oil (blood) from a depleted oil well (stone.)
“Star Light, Star Bright.” with a few asteroids thrown in for good measure.
Yup, oil production is going down, down, down. The future is above us.
Dennis L.
🙂
Interesting how history repeats so predictably (another proof that most people are NPCs).
During the decline of all previous empires, religion provides the escapism by promising a better life in heaven.
The fact that you wrap that up in technobabble does not make it any different.
For those paying attention, no human has left the LEO (low earth orbit) in 50 years (assuming you believe the US propaganda about Apollo). Either way, say hello to all the vax cultists when you reach Fauci’s heaven.
According to Rystad, the current resource replacement ratio for conventional resources is only 16 percent. Only 1 barrel out of every 6 consumed is being replaced with new resources
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/The-Biggest-Oil-Gas-Discoveries-Of-2019.html
Surely it is worse than that by now…
We must be pumping the reserves out furiously now…. again .. I suspect they can hold the financial system together … the math on oil is the likely trigger for The Pathogen… when BAU begins to asphyxiate … they will let er rip
The discovered oil figures have only to do with “conventional” oil. This is the oil supply that peaked and started falling about 2005.
In addition to conventional oil, there is an awfully lot of “tight” oil (accessed by fracking) that is now non-economic to extract. There is also an awfully lot of very heavy oil that is non-economic to extract. We have known about these resources for a long time. The IEA has used the existence of these resources to support its belief that, if, somehow, we can figure out how to economically extract these known resources, the world’s biggest problem will be climate change.
Could we drop mini-nukes into the holes to blow the f789 out of the shale … causing the oil to gush out Beverly Hillbilly-style?
Then just run it through a filter to remove the radioactive sh?t…
Dun.ce Kruger in Action
Big changes appear in the future of humans. Return to pre-industrial conditions.
That is a possibility.
But there could be a religious ending to the story, which we don’t understand.
Agree, we don’t see very far into the fabric of the universe, it is unfolding before us as needed and as we gain the ability to use what it presents to us.
Dennis L.
‘The man of the future who will redeem us not only from the hitherto reigning ideal but also from that which was bound to grow out of it, the great nausea, the will to nothingness, nihilism; this bell stroke of noon and of the great decision that liberates the will again and restores its goal to the earth and his hope to man; this Antichrist and anti-nihilist; this victor over God and nothingness – he must come one day.”
– Nietzsche
Could you sum that up for me?
Dennis L.
Christianity notoriously provided a framework for, and supported, serfdom. They split in 1054 over the filioque clause, and both sides continued to support serfdom. So the fact that there will be a religious ending does not console me.
It’s gonna be interesting to see how the religious react when there is no Second Coming…
I reckon it’s gonna be like a Tesla owner excitedly racing towards the charging station on his last bar… and finding the charger is out of order….
But hey … it’s hopium… just like buying gold or growing cabbages…
A kind of Christianity I respect and appreciate is the one of the Italian Francescani monks and also some kind of Orthodox monks too.
In my view, they are the only ones who interpret in a complete and correct way the message of the Gospels.
Surely, in my view, the Vatican is one of the worst example of Christianity on earth and probably the greek or anyway the east and middleast Orthodox Christianity is better than the Vatican (or also better than the Anglican Christianity).
My money is on Fast Eddy being crowned the New (and improved) Messiah
HE deserves it
the world we have created is, yes, so utterly stupid that it deserves eddy as its ruler
and for a while at least, that is what we will collectively get.
I betcha there will be no ‘religious’ ending to this … humans are just another type of animal… nothing special… other than that we are cruel wicked demons from hell….
If there is a religious ending it probably involves the devil coming to claim his evil children and bring them to hell where they belong
Why would there be a force coming to save us from what is happening… in what way are we deserving of salvation?
We will not be delivered from evil .. we ARE evil.
Humans are … the devil.
More TM.
“To return to a point made earlier, the rationale informing the impossibility of cheap renewable energy is a straightforward matter of energy density. The densities of renewables are lower than those of fossil fuels, and technology can’t overturn the laws of physics in order to change this material relationship. The lower the density of an energy source is, the larger – the more material-intensive, and the more costly – the delivery infrastructure has to be.”
Pt, Pd are capital intensive on earth, rare means low ratio of metal to ore, require considerable embedded capital. Find an asteroid and use the gravity well instead of dragging a very dense metal and ore out of a hole in the ground.
A guess: 100 miles squared of silicon with H storage could make solar cells; self replication and the raw material of solar cells is sand, yes, I know only certain sands, one problem at a time.
Don’t simply mine one of anything, have mass produced satellites exploring and start a train(not that kind of train FE), towards a refining point. Do it all robotically, and have the great satisfaction of nudging all the waste(pollution) into Jupiter. The celestial gods will love it and burp with glee.
Guys, TINA.
Dennis L.
Would only work if meteor of the right specifications collided with Earth, I am afraid.
the raw material of solar cells is sand
That is not true. We mine quartz to make solar cells. Sand has too many impurities.
It is futile to reason with a true believer. I only counter him to show his weaknesses, not to convert or change him.
Okay, silicon dioxide. I don’t see quartz, I see monocrystalline silicon, polycrystalline silicon. Basically same stuff as used in microchips.
Don’t really know.
Dennis L.
I haven’t done any recent calculations but CSP with its need for mirrors might take fewer scarce materials than either PV or wind. Also storing high-temperature heat in molten salts, as is done with CSP, is less expensive than batteries.
About two-thirds of humanity lives between the two tropics where the sun is abundant. CSP works well if there’s enough direct normal radiation (e.g. there is in LA or Phoenix, there isn’t in Vancouver; there might not be in Singapore because it’s cloudy).
Denmark has built a few solar thermal plants to heat small towns, using a very large underground cone-shaped seasonal heat store (storing water at up to 85-90 degC). Not relevant to industrial heat or transport, but usable for heating buildings. Denmark at present is converting almost all its gas-heated buildings (15%) to heat networks (which will then heat 80% rather than 65% of the country).
Otherwise, sorry, I give up . . .
The electric grid is very difficult to maintain for any of these things. And CSP is doesn’t give the electricity needed in winter, except near the equator.
Looking long and short term:
TM for the short term, or how to have something with which to build when we have some major bumps.
“The necessary accompaniments of this form of financialization are (a) the inflating and subsequent bursting of asset price bubbles, (b) the parallel accumulation and destruction of enormous financial liabilities, and (c) the monetary degradation that may attend efforts to prevent these reversions to equilibrium from playing out.” Sounds like Gail.
I have for most of my life a metaphor of packing a canoe for a voyage with only so much room; it must be packed carefully with essentials and something for the big bumps.
Long term, space, short term a place to light. My guess, a city on water, low friction with which to move goods. Minneapolis was/is a water town, pretty tough now. Come think of it, haven’t port towns always been tough? Sailors landing needed two things, booze and ……. La Crosse was river and rail town. The end of an era was my childhood, steam only ran a hundred miles a day, needed water and service, working men who traveled from home. Have mentioned, my childhood home was purchased by my grandfather(killed in the rail yards by a train) and was a former whore house, bars on every block; consistent with my thesis on ports.
We are going to adapt to what comes, we will form groups/tribes and make it.
Dennis L.
“The necessary accompaniments of this form of financialization are (a) the inflating and subsequent bursting of asset price bubbles, (b) the parallel accumulation and destruction of enormous financial liabilities, and (c) the monetary degradation that may attend efforts to prevent these reversions to equilibrium from playing out.”
Financialisation is what happens when you deindustrialise because you ran out of high grade coal.
And civilizational collapse is what happens when you can’t use fandangle words to bamboozle the masses anymore and reality puts you and your hubris through medieval millstones.
Rule of thumb….if a 1980s western high school student cannot understand the words you are using then you are a con artist and a charlatan…..please note this incudes the entire professional class and Elite class of the planet earth.
The Demiurge was at play when it gave humans the idea of tokens as things of value……and then gave those same idiots a hoe…….
Back when the UK and Germany ran out of high grade coal, we had World War I (UK) and World War II (Germany). Now, we seem to be running short of all fuels, combined. Financialization is definitely what has been done to cover up the problem.
high grade coal….
What would happen if we ran out of High Grade Colombian Blow?
Wall St would collapse
Civilization advance won’t be possible in a so-called multipolar world.
Resources get dissipated to countries which have nothing to do with civilization.
Without an absolute control of resources by the more dominant countries, no innovation will bear fruit because before it goes anywhere the resource producing countries will demand a slice, as we are seeing now.
About Dennis L’s lament about losing an investment opportunity because he read Limits of Growth:
In the prospectus of all mutual funds, it says “Past performances do not guarantee future profits”.
Human ingenuity has its limits. The 1970s were the last gasp of such.
Peoples from countries who have no stake on civilization are not going to produce anything useful since they won’t get to use it.
That aside, what was true in 1970s is not true now, and vice versa. The limits have been indeed reached, and only more and more bizarre technologies, which are showing their limits every day,are keeping the roofs from caving down.
One would not be betting everything on past prophesies. They are yesterday’s news.
Of course, but I read two books, LTG and also read Intelligent Investor. Was a product of Madison. Dennis as I mentioned, nice guy, but he was wrong for more than forty years.
Another doomer was a Stanford man, Ehrlich, “Population Bomb.” He basically predicted what some preach here for the seventies. It didn’t happen.
If Spaceship works, Meadows was and is wrong for the foreseeable future.
There are going to be bumps, see my post on canoe, trick is not to fall out of the canoe.
Dennis L.
We are going to run out of synthetic fertiliser and then we are going to die.
Groan. There was a movie character who said something to effect, “There you go again, bad vibrations.”
Dennis L.
A friend was telling me yesterday of a farmer he met recently who farms 110 acres of dairy cattle on ‘the golden vale’ – very rich pasture here in Ireland. He claims to buy no fertilizer whatsoever and uses a method called ‘Korean natural farming’
He claims to buy no fertilizer whatsoever and uses a method called ‘Korean natural farming’
The laws of physics don’t change. Either productivity from such a farm is extremely low, or he’s getting inputs such as fodder for winter from somewhere else that is grown with fertiliser.
Not necessarily true. People ranging from Joel Salatin to Sepp Holzer and Masanobu Fukuoka showed that ‘natural farming’ of various kinds could deliver good yields. Or some call it regenerative farming. Others include Gabe Brown, Richard Perkins, etc.
Or go back 100 years and read ‘Farmers of Forty Centuries’. It describes how people coped in the far east with high population densities and the need not to impoverish the soil. One difference between east and west seems to be that the east relied on hand labour and did not have many grazing animals (ruminants). People did use poultry and pigs though. In the west there were a lot of sheep and cattle, also animals were used for motive power.
Is this a good time to sing KOOMbaya?
Not necessarily true. People ranging from Joel Salatin to Sepp Holzer and Masanobu Fukuoka showed that ‘natural farming’ of various kinds could deliver good yields.
Scammers.
Hopium Vendors
@David
Did any of these folks you mentioned have a solution about how to feed 8 billion?
I don’t think so
These people have their own land, probably no children, and only grow some food to feed themselves and maybe some of their neighbors, not a bunch of hungry hordes who don’t give a shit about how they farm and just want something to eat now.
Joel Salatin’s head will be mounted on a pike at the farm gate while the horde feasts on his veggie garden
F789ing imbe.ciles who think organic gardening will save them… TFIs
Withnail, you are too concentrated on seasonal, shallow root crops, which yes, are a disproportionate fraction of today’s crops. But there are also deep rooted permanent crops, specially in pastures. Soil depletion depends as a negative exponential of the roots depth. In a soil with deep roots, which are also live 12 months a year, depletion does indeed go to zero. Prairies have existed for millions of years. A lot less people can live on those, but no one fertilized. There is no difference between a prairie and a free range cattle system.
I wonder why these people didn’t just eat those crops?
https://alphahistory.com/russianrevolution/great-famine-of-1921/#Cannibalism
A lot less people can live on those, but no one fertilized.
Sure, but without grain we can’t have a civilisation.
Probably a large4 landowner who does not have to raise staple foods. The kind of people who laughed off the 1845 famine.
I have near heard about Korean natural farming method. What I know is prior to massive US food aid following the Korean War, Korea was NOT really well known for its food production;.
And, given North Korea, which, because of a lack of synthetic fertilizer, still uses traditional method of farming to a large degree, is quite well known for its famines, his example may not be something to follow.
And when BAU collapses…and the 99.9999% of farmland… that is farmed with petro chems… produces no food… your friends herd will be slaughtered by the hordes of starving … carved up and roasted … and then what?
Mine just have to survive until local supplies of 6.5 Creedmore are exhausted and fuel for ATVs is unavailable…..of course then are just local wildlife…..not really livestock…..
I am from a ranching family whose roots with cattle go back literally a thousand years….
I have no idea what “110 acres of dairy cattle” means?
If he is raising 20 high production cows on 110 acres with twice daily milking and converting it to say cheese…..and selling it at high mark up…then I grasp it. No idea about Korea.
Ireland can provide pasturage year round…..it ain’t Siberia….or Arizona
If he is raising 20 high production cows on 110 acres with twice daily milking and converting it to say cheese…..and selling it at high mark up…then I grasp it.</i<
That does sound realistic but I imagine the guy claims to have at least 100 cows.
TM has a new post out.
“We’re not going to get rich, then, by investing in wind, solar or hydrogen companies, and the development of these energy sources is going to be much costlier, and far less profitable, than had hitherto been assumed. Indeed, it’s hard to escape the conclusion that transition to renewables, if it’s going to happen at all, is going to need subsidy, which can only come from consumers, taxpayers, or both.”
Agree if done with current paradigm. With limitless, very expensive metals, Pt, Pd, we might get out of this mess. Also, we would give spaceship earth a break, there is no place like home and earth is our home.
Low cost capital is necessary, the only place to find that is up and then with conversion of existing fusion to a medium which can be transported and used in mobile applications. H has the advantage of being non polluting and is actually total recycling , water to water. Nature does this somewhat, it is called rain.
The maximum of exogenous energy earth can support is fusion, from the sun; it is a time tested method and self balancing.
If someone has better ideas or constructive comments, I am all eyes, I read.
Dennis L.
existing fusion
hmmmmm–i’ll pass on that one dennis.
we live in an energy based economic system, which can only function by using energy to create wages
and you can only create wages by converting one energy form into another.
that’s just the way things are.
Norm, I will give a hint on fusion, the sun also rises.
Dennis
hmmmmm–yes
only 93m miles away
easy peasy
now where did i put that book i got for christmas?
”fusion for dummies”
dennis–will you phone the nobel prize comittee and put in a good word for me please?
H has the advantage of being non polluting
You can guarantee with absolute certainty that any non polluting ‘energy source’ doesn’t work.
Why? Because entropy demands that there is pollution. We turn order into chaos and harvest some energy in the process. Pollution is the chaos.
No, there is minimal pollution with fuel cells.
Sun is collected turned into hydrogen, hydrogen is turned into electricity(heat) and water. Ignoring capital costs and pollution, it adds no net energy to the earth, the sunlight already hit the earth.
Dennis L
No, there is minimal pollution with fuel cells.
You’re not understanding this. Please learn about entropy.
He thinks the God Elon can open the gates of Heaven and move the vaults of the Earth
No reason to reason with someone who believes in winged unicorns farting gold coins to finance the non-existent satellites
Okay, bragging.
At Madison I took first in honors physical chemistry I, thermodynamics.
Bad news, even then I was not smart enough to make a living at this stuff, went to trade school, dentistry.
Dennis L.
So you do understand it, you just prefer to ignore it
Low cost capital comes from the US being able to commandeer the rest of the world to bring cheaper goods to it, and now the game has ended.
After the changes in 2022 and 2023 nobody is going to ship the goods cheaply to USA anymore.
USA is eating its seed corn. The current Establishment is using everything to keep things more or less stable, to avoid a landslide, or at least dump everything from the 78 years old Trump’s lap to clean up, which he won’t.
You can summon Santa’slves to make the satellites, which do NOT exist as of now, if you wish.
kul,
Starship bringing back a ton of Pt is cheap capital. The universe if full of it if one ignores economics which is a construct of biological beings.
Dennis L.
How many ounces of Pt the mythic starships brought back to earth?
Zero
Next.
dennis
only economics, as constructed by us human beings, has made it possible to hold any form of capital, whether here or in the far blue star yonder.
no other animal functions by any kind of economic system, which is why they do not possess any form of capital.
without an economic system, capital cannot exist.
fetch a ton of pt back from wherever—but with no economic system–it will just sit there.
unless you know something i dont?
‘Tony Blair should be behind bars’: New calls to axe knighthood over payments from despots. The former prime minister’s Institute for Global Change (TBI) is being paid to advise nations with questionable human rights records, such as Bahrain and Saudi Arabia, in an apparent bid to expand its global influence, it has emerged. An agreement was forged between the non-profit and Sunni Muslim-ruled Bahrain despite the Gulf state’s abysmal track record of political oppression against its Shia Muslim majority population. https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1851062/Tony-Blair-funding-backlash-Institute-Global-Change
That’s a silly woke suggestion. There will be more despots as BAU collapses. And how many countries are truly democratic anyway?
The more wars and resulting deaths the better as long as they happen somewhere else. Less people = more for me to consume.
Isn’t that like some kind of racketeering template, the global initiative, used for shaking down foreign govts with hot air? Peddling “influence”.
Remember the Clinton one got its teeth stuck into the Haiti funding and never looked back
Jabcinta’s global initiative for internet identity and censorship? Odd coincidence she and Blair go waaay back
Multiple Financial Executives Commit Suicide Amid China’s Financial Crisis.
In 2023, at least 96 Chinese financial executive have fallen from grace, and 38 people have been investigated in the five major state-owned banks. “In the past, enterprises were encouraged to operate in debt. Some enterprises did not meet the conditions for loans, but through interpersonal connections, they got the loans anyway. No one asked about it for so many years. Now for the year-end check, someone must be held accountable, can the bank presidents not be anxious? Which sum of money was loaned out without the presidents’ sign? Choosing to commit suicide may be able to save their families or assets.”
https://archive.ph/DLmRO
China treats presidents of banks with problems differently than the West. Some of them were fined fairly large amounts. Suicide is viewed differently than in the West, too.
WHO: “Climate change could require vaccinating populations against migratory mosquitoes”
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/2/who-recommends-second-malaria-vaccine-for-children-rollout-early-next-year
Sounds like as good an excuse as any. A vaccine rolled out next year will clearly not be tested adequately for safety.
A good slap on the offending mosquito can be satisfying.
Dennis L.
Can’t argue with this: ‘individuals are highly suggestable, irrational, and generally opposed to discussion or nuance.’
‘This period of social theory marks the beginning of the “eclipse of rationalism.”[8] Intellectuals and politicians would soon no longer believe that citizens of democracies could simply be understood as naturally rational, good, and self-possessed.
The influential English activist and writer Graham Wallas was among the first to integrate Freudian psychology with political philosophy.[9] He argued that “the empirical art of politics consists largely in the creation of opinion by the deliberate exploitation of subconscious non-rational inference.” The famous American journalist and political commentator, Walter Lippman, was heavily influenced by Wallas, and basically agreed with his theories about the formation of public opinion.[10]
French polymath Gustave Le Bon’s widely read book, The Crowd: A Study of the Popular Mind, argued that under modern conditions of mass communication and urbanization the “unconscious actions of crowds” replaced the “conscious actions of individuals.”[11] Le Bon’s work would directly contribute to the birth of “crowd psychology,” which developed the idea among politicians and academics that individuals are highly suggestable, irrational, and generally opposed to discussion or nuance.’
https://consilienceproject.org/the-end-of-propaganda/
+ most people are MOREONS .. so if you combine all this the end result is a world filled with TFIs who watch cnnbbc (and Huff) and repeat what they are told
Last,
This assumes free will and humans inventing our biome. I think we discover the fabric of the universe as we grow and are able to grasp it. Had to read Freud so I could get a teaching certificate and make a living after studying math at which I was only good, not exceptional thus doomed to starvation, or those who can do, those who can’t teach. Thought Freud was bs, but I needed a job. I can parrot passably when the job requires it.
I keep repeating the story of some wise man lost in history who recorded, “Let their be light,” and modern man, “there was a big bang.” That was all photons and then a mix of neutrons/protons which have just the right weight ratio to form stars from H and then blow up and make the elements. All from a bit of light. Now, where did the bang come from? It is not rational to paraphrase Spock.
Dennis L.
I think we discover the fabric of the universe as we grow and are able to grasp it.
Knowledge alone is not power.
It is a point of conjecture at this point, revolves around mass and information. If information has mass, then by E=mc^2, information is energy.
“The energy-mass equivalence formula, E=m·c², and the information-energy equivalence formula, ΔE=k·T·ln2, have had a profound impact on modern physics and information theory. These equations suggest a remarkable connection between energy, mass, and information, captivating the interest of researchers in recent years. This connection has led to the intriguing proposition that information possesses mass, and experimental evidence in the fields of quantum mechanics and thermodynamics has lent support to this idea.”
https://informationmatters.org/2023/06/maximizing-mass-energy-and-information-energy-equivalences/
If nothing else interesting dinner conversation.
Dennis L.
“The Bulls**t Revolution”: What If ChatGPT Is An Epic Dud. It has become apocryphal to even suggest that the biggest driving force behind stocks in 2023 (besides Powell’s 11th hour capitulatory pivot of course), namely the mania behind AI/ChatGPT, which propelled the Magnificent 7 stocks by more than 100% in 2023…is nothing more than the latest chatbot mania, no different at the end of the day than the doomed metaverse infatuation of 2020/2021 (which was nothing more novel than Second Life from two decades earlier) which prompted even the “geniuses” behind Facebook to switch their name to what has literally become a capex sucking joke.
https://archive.is/l6nPB
Ah ha… so that’s why we are getting this fake AI narrative… they have good reasons to fake everything
The number of zombie firms as a percentage of Russell 3000 is nearing 2000 Dot Com levels. Zombie firms are companies where profits are less than the interest paid on their debts for at least three years.
https://bnnbreaking.com/world/us/rise-of-zombie-firms-a-growing-concern-amid-higher-interest-rates/
Doesn’t sound good at all!
Tommy Lee Jones, Michael Bolton both looking sick; Bernie Sanders (looking sick) has “COVID”; Monica faints at Houston show; Charlie Sheen had just had a “medical procedure” when attacked by neighbor
DJ “Kid Capri is cancer-free, reveals why he kept his battle a secret”; Will Lipton of “General Hospital” has been gone for months; WWE’s Matt Riddle says he & family face “health challenges”
https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/p/tommy-lee-jones-michael-bolton-both
More clips here than the entire UKEY fake war https://indi.ca/gopro-guerilla-warfare/
https://twitter.com/PalestineNW/status/1735797977581592801
https://twitter.com/Ameen_media/status/1720724114200014867
Remember the dancing nurses during Covid… how does one explain this … idiocracy?
FE, if one had attended the army woukd know that there are certain moments that you go crazy, duties are so boring and difficult to bear.
I did it for one year, it was tough.
Additionally, I think that Israeli generals tolerate some behaviour ‘out of the schemes’ (if not too serious) ad they know they have an army made of young civilians and they want to keep spirit high.
At the same time Israeli army is so superior that in some guards and in same places the risk is very small for soldiers.
Showing these scenes is also demoralizing for Palestinians and Arabs in general too.
The Ukey war is a complete slow disintegration of battallions and unraveling of social infrastructure which in every way Europeans and Americans (and Ukranians too) are trying to hide from the web.
Otherwise Ukranians would stop going to die for no reason (the contested territories are mainly Russian speaking) and Americans and Eurpeans would stop throwing money out of the window…
Interesting.
Dennis L.
Notice how there is never any clips like this from UKEY? https://t.me/leaklive/17537
VAIDS https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/transport/article/3246919/hong-kongs-cathay-pacific-cancels-another-28-flights-carrier-blaming-higher-expected-pilot-absence
https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5ceb907c-cc2f-4ff9-93d1-dc88fb0d1c72_792x1206.png
‘One of the greatest challenges each society faces is deciding what constitutes “truth.” Whoever holds that power wields enormous influence and steers the direction of the society for better or for worse.’
For centuries, “truth” was delegated to the ruling institutions of the time, and hence truth was simply the narrative which conformed to their interests. Then, during the enlightenment period a new idea emerged—that truth could be determined empirically through experimentation and data.’
‘To defend himself, Fauci argued he was “the science,” so criticizing anything he had done was unacceptable as it equated to an attack on science itself.’
“Scientism” is a way of describing science being transformed into a religious institution which cannot be questioned and must be viewed as the sole arbiter of truth (e.g., if you saw seven different healthy people die shortly after a vaccine, because that association has not been proven in science’s peer-reviewed literature, your observation is false and hence must be discounted).’
From this article by A Midwestern Doctor.
https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/the-deadly-rise-of-scientism?utm_campaign=email-post&r=18g88x&utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
A really good article scientism! Thanks.
Science Styled Marketing.
It’s everywhere. It’s everywhere.
Very inadequate models are now used to “prove” scientific theories. They are not really science.
From an earlier posting.
“I felt like we were being handcuffed, duck-taped across the mouth, and threatened with harm,” she said.
Nothing new here; the book ‘Grapes of Wrath’ has a passage where doctors were told not to list cause of death as starvation for any deaths, children in particular. They duly lied on the death certificates.
Any Normal who believes the health system IS a ‘health’ system and not a racket is just too stupid to waste time with.
I have only met a few doctors worth the label in my many years on the planet; the most recent one had been thrown from the health system for questioning the narrative; he had just recently been recognised for his work with nutritional medicine.
Doctors are merely ‘Pricks with needles’.
Oh wow, dragons are real, they were still flying around Europe breathing fire in the Middle Ages and there could still be some dormant in caves somewhere. (It is not like every cave in the world has been investigated and the dragons likely picked the more remote and quiet ones in which to lie dormant…. obviously.) You learn something everyday….
> 6 The burden of the beasts of the south: into the land of trouble and anguish, from whence come the young and old lion, the viper and fiery flying serpent. (Isaiah 30)
> The Bible Reveals the TRUTH About Dragons
The Bible isn’t a 100% accurate representation of what happened. It is a collection of writings. Much of the Old Testament is based on oral history, and stories passed on down through the ages. It reflects the kinds of narratives that people at that time were telling each other.
Today, we are living in a world of conflicting narratives. We should know by now that many of these narratives are not 100% true.
I looked up Isaiah 30:6 in the NIV translation. It is part of a longer passage Isaiah 30:6 – 8. It says:
6 A prophecy concerning the animals of the Negev:
Through a land of hardship and distress,
of lions and lionesses,
of adders and darting snakes,
the envoys carry their riches on donkeys’ backs,
their treasures on the humps of camels,
to that unprofitable nation,
7 to Egypt, whose help is utterly useless.
Therefore I call her
Rahab the Do-Nothing.
8 Go now, write it on a tablet for them,
inscribe it on a scroll,
that for the days to come
it may be an everlasting witness.
– – – – –
I don’t see anything about dragons.
Well, it would be a strange world if it wasn’t a strange world at least some of the time.
Look at the trouble these archaeologists got into by finding things that shouldn’t have existed. Also, go to the 15:29 point to hear about contemporary alleged sightings of pterodactyls.
FORBIDDEN ARCHEOLOGY 2: Ancient Alien Discoveries of Early Man
There are no aliens and the origin of humans is well understood. We came from Africa.
No aliens? Read “Ringmakers of Saturn” by Norman R. Bergrun.
The dragons in the Bible might be aliens who altered the genes of existing apes or gifted them knowledge then left or receded into the shadows. Fun to think about. Likely all nonsense.
“And God created Eve from Adam’s rib”.
Genetic engineering?
Adam means “Dirt.”
Earth is a very unique, wonderful place. It was built for biology and we are biology.
Jupiter and associated moons do not look very inviting; I see a toxic dumping ground.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/nasa-spacecraft-captures-stunning-photos-of-volcanoes-on-jupiter-s-moon-io/ar-AA1mmLAI?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=f09e6975a05040ccad91d3b119311db1&ei=31
We are very fortunate to have earth. I have heard estimates of the amount of time for humans/earth to develop by chance alone, the universe is not old enough.
Doors are opening, we can go through or stay with “experts” who think everything is going backwards. Hopefully the trend is improvement with variance.
Sometimes I come here simply to practice a positive attitude and reflect what I have gained from a negative attitude, nothing from the latter. There are problems no doubt, it is up to us to seek solutions.
Dennis L.
>> I have heard estimates of the amount of time for humans/earth to develop by chance alone, the universe is not old enough.
I agree with this, despite my education and scientific indoctrination. It just doesn’t add up at all. The more science you know, the more preposterous it becomes.
preposterous science is what you read about on some quarters of ofw
usuaully on an eddylink
It is a simulation….we are in one
If it’s a simulation how do I get a better one?
😂🤣
If it’s a simulation how do I get a better one?
Reincarnate into a better one. or better skill, learn not to be reincarnated
My highest-ranked hypothesis as well, but if it’s wrong, I like the aliens-seeded-life-here story. It still doesn’t address the nature of reality or how anything exists at all, but we might as well choose something entertaining.
If it’s a simulation, who simulates the simulators?
maybe we are all stunt doubles
Who created Earth …
Read Rare Earth, by Peter Ward and Donald Brownlee, published in 2003. It tells the story, and it is highly rated.
I agree with this, despite my education and scientific indoctrination. It just doesn’t add up at all. The more science you know, the more preposterous it becomes.
That’s like a lottery winner refusing to believe they won the lottery and not cashing the cheque.
I have a good book to recommend, namely The Picture of Dorian Gray.
A guy trying to avoid the consequences of what he had done all his life and finally it catches up with him in the end.
Your scheme of avoiding consequences seems to be quite , well, I don’t know what to say. Suffice to say that it will fare no better than the idea of storing the spent fuels at where the facilities were. Eventually the wastes do catch up.
For those of who don’t want to pay a fee for something written in 1890:
https://oceanofpdf.com/authors/oscar-wilde/pdf-epub-the-uncensored-picture-of-dorian-gray-download/
i know kulm
i have the original
You’re very well read Kulm, you must read all the time. I really must get round to reading Jane Austen.
We are very fortunate to have earth.
We dont have earth. The earth has us.
Exactly…….
The hospital’s charting system was also rigged to not show post-vaccination breakthrough infections, Macrae said.
“Any patient who was diagnosed with COVID the chart would automatically populate as ‘unvaccinated.’
“If anyone tried to change that manually, the only other option was ‘vaccination status unknown.’”
This was a feature of the Epic software used in all Kaiser Permanente hospitals, said Macrae, a limitation corroborated by others.
“I’ve talked to nurses all over the country who saw the scamming of the charting systems,” she said.
Macrae said staff at her hospital were deterred from drawing logical conclusions or lodging reports, saying her manager told her, “We cannot report these because we cannot prove that these [shots] are what is the cause.”
“I felt like we were being handcuffed, duck-taped across the mouth, and threatened with harm,” she said.
https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/fired-nurse-exposes-a-major-cover
“There were all of these bizarre peripheral vascular clotting disorders,” she said, “and literally, I had never even heard of them or seen them before.”
She even saw four “rapid onset” Guillain-Barré syndrome cases, compared to only two cases in all of her previous years of experience as an acute care nurse.
Macrae asked two of these patients what they thought caused their condition, and they said they had received the COVID-19 shots “within 24 hours of onset” of their symptoms.
During this time, the hospital and the press maintained that it was the unvaccinated who were filling the hospitals, she said.
https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/fired-nurse-exposes-a-major-cover
Two nurses who administered the shots directly — colleagues she met through a practitioner support group in her community — said they were seeing between 10 and 20 episodes of anaphylactic shock every day.
They told Macrae they were threatened with termination if they spoke about the situation publicly.
One day near the end of June 2021 as she was working a 16-hour shift split between two units, Macrae said she got a report that every single patient in both units — 60 overall — had unusual injuries that were likely the result of the Covid mRNA shots.
She described uncommon blood clots, bleeds, heart attacks, strokes, and Bell’s palsy increasing in frequency during the early months of the vaccination campaign.
https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/fired-nurse-exposes-a-major-cover
Once COVID-19 vaccines were introduced in early 2021, Macrae reported an immediate and drastic shift inpatient admissions.
She revealed that her hospital saw a staggering “300% increase in hospitalizations.”
Hospital staff were overwhelmed amid uncharacteristic patient conditions, she explained.
Macrae said “code blue” alerts — when somebody stops breathing or their heart stops — which had been happening perhaps once per shift, begin happening as many as 10 times per shift.
“They would always call them down to the lower level of the hospital, where we had a vaccination clinic,” she said.
https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/fired-nurse-exposes-a-major-cover
“What The Nurses Saw”
https://americanmediaperiscope.com/msom-ep-891/
Despite COVID-19 being “the most inflammatory disease process that humanity has ever seen,” experienced hospital staff were blocked from administering steroids — “the best treatment for an inflammatory process,” Macrae said.
“So for the government and the CDC [Centers for Disease Control and Prevention] and these three-letter organizations to tell practitioners that they could not administer steroids … was absolutely criminal,” she said.
https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/fired-nurse-exposes-a-major-cover
Doesn’t matter – only SSers will read this and they already knew….
A California nurse, who was fired for refusing to comply with her hospital’s vaccine mandate, has blown the whistle on a major cover-up of deaths related to Covid mRNA injections.
After the COVID-19 vaccine rollout, Macrae witnessed a dramatic spike in hospitalizations and deaths.
She says patients were suffering from side effects she had never seen before.
Meanwhile, proven and recommended treatments were banned and record-keeping systems were manipulated to obfuscate vaccine-related injuries and breakthrough infection cases, she said.
She revealed that hospital officials ordered staff to cover up vaccinate-related deaths, often by listing fully-vaccinated dead patients as “unvaccinated” and marking the cause as “Covid.”
Hospital staff faced threats for reporting adverse events and deaths related to the vaccines, Macrae revealed.
She also stated that medical professionals were met with retaliation for objecting to protocols for isolating patients and denying families access and input over their treatments.
According to Macrae, in the first months of the pandemic hospitals were nearly empty as elective procedures halted — a scene that contrasted with media claims of overwhelmed capacity.
Even during the 2020-2021 winter surge of hospitalizations due to normal respiratory issues, she said “not once” were hospitals overwhelmed.
This was an observation she corroborated with colleagues across the state.
However, she said hospital officials promoted the narrative that facilities were overrun with Covid patients.
https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/fired-nurse-exposes-a-major-cover
Over to our roving correspondent at TFI News … norm … for comment…
norm … give us your thoughts on this …. norm tell us what Huff told you to think
Whew! That is a powerful interview. A very poised, intelligent, and ethical RN…and homeschooled.
And even back 30 years ago, I experienced the corruption of the State Medical Boards, whose members are appointed by the State Governors. It’s politics, and I experienced it first hand in both KY and NC. We all know what slime lawyers, judges, hospital administrators and corporate executives are- all sociopaths, but the doctors aren’t much better.
It’s all about lying, money, and censorship.
I reckon this is real https://t.me/leaklive/17537 Funny we never get clips like that out of UKEY…
Few things convey the horrors of war as Fast Eddy being deprived of videos. He likes to watch. I suggest you write a polite letter to Gerasimov and explain your plight. True, having cell phones in a war zone results in locating the troops and much increased casualties (there was one such case at the beginning of the war), but this is a crime against internet connected humanity. I regret that the entire Donbass 2014 production has been wiped out of youtube. That would keep you entertained a while.
2014 was real – the current thing .. is not
If your intellectual level is such that you expect videos from trench warfare in uninhabited places like Avdeevka, with drones flying overhead and having the ability to fly into a cell signal, you surely need your circenses.
Hang on .. it’s winter… why doesn’t POOTY reduce the flow of gas to the EU to force them to stop supporting the UKEYS giving them their entire arsenals of bombs and ammo?
Asking for norm… cuz norm is the kinda guy who questions everything
And while you are at it — explain why we steam oil out of sand when there are oceans of the good easy stuff waiting to be tapped..
All these questions…
Ukraine on fire by Oliver Stone.
https://odysee.com/@DisclosureLibrary:2/UkraineOnFire:c
Who can remind me of the similar websites to Odysee and Bitchute and Brighteon? I’m sure there’s a fourth, but I can’t think of it right now.
Anyway, try this one:
https://depopulation.news
I just remembered. It’s rumble.com.
https://rumble.com/v10don9-burnt-alive-in-odessa.-documentary.html
[Chorus]
I need to watch things die
From a good safe distance
Vicariously I live while the whole world dies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_TUP2vuaDs
I think someone may have posted this earlier for you FE
Actually … I like to watch chaos and violence… from close up.
Mish explains why Biden is unpopular: Inflation adjusted wages are down, in recent years. Those who benefit from the rising stock market and higher interest payments are doing better.
https://mishtalk.com/economics/why-bidens-approval-rating-is-miserable-in-one-economic-chart/
“Income is rising and so are wages. Even real income is up. But real wages are another matter.”
https://149905391.v2.pressablecdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Personal-Income-vs-Hourly-Wages-2023-11-1.png
Coal prices are not high enough in China to encourage production, it looks like:
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Coal/China-Reinstates-Coal-Tariffs-Impacting-Global-Suppliers.html
There is also a statement:
“State-owned energy major Sinopec recently forecast that demand for coal in China will peak in two years, at some 4.37 billion tons.
I wonder whether this statement really means, “Perhaps with this change, China can continue to raise production for two more years. But China’s coal production is very near peak. It is hard to raise prices high enough to make extraction profitable.
Could have been worse — without the jab? hahahahahahaha… maybe they should chop her head off???
People Magazine ran a perfectly horrible story Sunday headlined, “Kentucky Woman Gets Her Limbs Amputated After Kidney Stone Infection: ‘I’m Just So Happy to Be Alive’.”
Healthy nurse and mother of two Cindy Mullins, 41, had her legs amputated last week after getting a kidney stone that got infected and then turned septic. Her doctors say Cindy’s arms must come off next.
Cindy is miraculously taking these shocking developments as well as anyone possibly could. “I just said these are the cards I’ve been dealt and these are the hands I’m going to play,” Mullins said.
Something about Cindy’s ultra-rare, atypical story tickled my memory. It reminded me that back in September, the Daily Mirror ran another very similar story headlined, “Doctors remove 14-year-old boy’s hands and feet after he shows flu-like symptoms.”
Tennessee teenager and rising pianist Mathias Uribe, 14, who was also healthy and active in school sports, started getting flu symptoms in June. After the teen’s symptoms worsened, his parents rushed him to Vanderbilt University hospital, where Mathias had a heart attack. The young man was put on ECMO for two weeks and diagnosed with pneumonia and streptococcal toxic shock syndrome (sepsis).
Over the next few weeks Edgar and Catalina Uribe were forced to make the unimaginable decision to consent to Mathias’ quadruple amputation.
Mathias’ ICU pediatrician Dr. Katie Boyle worked with the other doctors to try and save as much of Mathias’ limbs as possible. She emphasized his condition is extremely rare and atypical, and something she hardly ever sees. Dr. Boyle suggested parents make sure kids get flu vaccines.
https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/too-few-regrets-tuesday-january-2nd
LOL 😂
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/harvards-gay-hit-new-plagiarism-allegations-widespread-double-standards-exposed-elite
Harvard’s Gay Resigns Following New Allegations Of Plagiarism, Shortest Presidential Tenure In History
Lots of examples. Fairly long article.
Reminds me of the character Prissy in Gone With The Wind. Asked multiple times if she had the skills to deliver a baby she said, “Yes.”
Then when the baby was due she stood at the top of the stairs screaming for she had no clue.
Super Snatch claims to have been a former Miss UK winner ..
Did her family in Haiti make money exploiting POC in Haiti? Why no outrage?
We would have entered a Type I Civ if we turned into a command, micromanaging and absolutist economy by, say, 2010.
The point of no return was 2016. The covid thing hit in 2020 but it was too late.
The one person who could have gained a dictatorial power and command all the resources of humankind was stopped, and that was the moment the point of no return was reached.
She would have become the God-Mother by the transhumans, the singularitarians, etc after the transition had occurred, but instead of her, two incompetents wasted 8 more years as the countries not likely to advance civilization gained more power.
All these new techs being tauted are just straw grabbing. The available resources won’t allow any of such schemes to succeed, no matter how delusional one might get.
>> The point of no return was 2016. […] The one person who could have gained a dictatorial power and command all the resources of humankind was stopped, and that was the moment the point of no return was reached.
>> She would have become the God-Mother
You’re not talking about Hillary Clinton, are you? The would-have-been savior of humanity? Oh dear.
She would have led the rest of humanity to hell, but the privileged class would have entered Type I Civ
Could you kindly elaborate on your “Type I Civ” to differentiate it from kakistocracy or the path Gaius illumined?
This is a machine translation from a Greek article.
https://warnews247.gr/episimo-i-saoudiki-aravia-entachthike-mazi-me-iae-stous-brics-petrodolario-telos-gia-ipa-rosia-kai-kina-elegchoun-stena-souez-kai-pagkosmia-paragogi-petrelaiou/
Official: Saudi Arabia joins UAE with BRICS -Petrodollar end for USA – Russia and China control Straits, Suez and global oil production!
Turkey is next – Biden managed to send the UAE and S.Arabia a “package” to the BRICS.
Saudi Arabia’s state television reported that the kingdom joined the BRICS group of countries along with UAE, Egypt, Ethiopia, Iran.
Turkey’s current stance with the blockade of the two British warships in the Straits is not just by chance. Ankara is expected to follow the path of Saudi Arabia, Egypt and the UAE and join the BRICS.
The Suez Canal, the Straits and the majority of global oil production is now under BRICS control.
Biden managed to make reality what WarNews247 had written since 2022: To send a “package” to the BRICS UAE and S.Arabia!
Read also: The USA is losing the Middle East: Biden broke off relations with Saudi Arabia and the UAE & sends them a “package” to the BRICS – N/S withdrawal of 5,000 Americans, Patriot & THAAD!
Gary Dugan, head of investments at Dalma Capital, emphasized that “Saudi Arabia and the UAE will have easier access to the developing markets of the BRICS countries on favorable terms.”
The addition of two major oil producers “will strengthen their bargaining power and influence in OPEC+, while also giving them the space to align their strategies with other BRICS members,” said Ehsan Khoman, head of ESG research. commodities and emerging markets at MUFG.
“The takeaway from the addition of Saudi Arabia, the UAE and Egypt to BRICS is the potential for more bilateral trade in local currencies, particularly following the UAE-India agreement reached in July. And Egypt is in similar discussions with India. said Carla Slim, economist at Standard Chartered Bank.
Last year, the UAE and India signed agreements to create a framework to promote the use of local currencies in cross-border transactions and strengthen cooperation in interconnecting their payment systems.
Meanwhile, calls to reform the international monetary system and develop an alternative currency to the US dollar are expected to grow as the BRICS expand, according to Mr Rao.
Read also: Turkey set fire to NATO’s war plan: Closed the Straits to two British warships – Blocked their entry into the Black Sea
Official: Iran, UAE, Egypt and S.Arabia joined the BRICS
Saudi Arabia’s foreign minister had said in August that the kingdom would study the details ahead of the proposed January 1 accession date and make “an appropriate decision.”
Prince Faisal bin Farhan said the BRICS grouping is a “beneficial and important channel” to enhance economic cooperation.
The BRICS group, which until now included Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa, will double its membership with the addition of Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Egypt, Iran and of Ethiopia as new members.
Saudi Arabia’s inclusion comes amid geopolitical tensions between the US and China and China’s expanding influence within the kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
Saudi Arabia, despite continuing strong ties with the United States, is increasingly going its own way as it worries that Washington is less committed to Gulf security than in the past.
China, Saudi Arabia’s biggest oil customer, is leading efforts to expand the BRICS grouping to become a counterweight to the West.
The enlargement may boost the group’s stated ambition to become a leader in the southern hemisphere, although Argentina signaled in November that it would not accept an invitation to join the BRICS group.
China has full confidence in the future development of BRICS cooperation, Foreign Spokesman Wang Wenbin said after Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Egypt, Iran and Ethiopia officially joined on Monday.
Petrodollar fee for USA
Now with the inclusion of Saudi Arabia in BRICS, the petrodollar will gradually begin to be ended as Riyadh “breaks” the 1974 agreement with the USA and begins the transition to a new currency, for example the Chinese yuan or some other adopted by the member countries of the Organization.
The development once completed will be a blow to the heart of the US financial system, which has taken advantage of the dollar’s reserve character by printing as many dollars as it needed to finance government spending over the past decade.
One of the key constants of the past 40 years and a pillar supporting the dollar’s character as a global reserve currency has been the existence of a global financial system based on the petrodollar.
But those days are coming to an end. Saudi Arabia is preparing for the day it cuts its last major link with the US.
The dollar dominates 80% of global oil sales, and the Kingdom has pegged the dollar for oil sales since 1974, in an agreement under President Richard Nixon that in turn included security guarantees for the kingdom.
“The oil market, and by extension the entire global commodity market, is the insurance policy of the dollar’s position as a reserve currency,” said economist Gal Luft, co-director of the Washington-based Institute for Global Security Analysis.
“If this stone is removed, the wall will begin to crumble.”
Also read: “ Nuclear” strike on US: Saudi Arabia “breaks” 1973 agreement & ends petrodollar – Request to join BRICS countries – Confirmation WarNews247
This is definitely a step in the direction away from the US$ being the reserve currency, and commodity prices of many kinds being quoted in US$. We don’t know how fast things will develop in this direction. My guess is that without some major catastrophe, the shift will take more than a year.
Oil is controlled by Brics? hahahahahahahahahahaahaha
Fake – all fake
Ah ha!.
Density of hydrogen fuel cells is 33.6 kWh/kg cubed, density of lithium ion batteries is 200-300 Wh/kg cubed. So about 10 times more energy than lithium. This solves the tire wear and weight problem of electric cars. Storage of H is an issue due to density, would the government lie? Nope. We will deal with it.
https://www.energy.gov/eere/fuelcells/hydrogen-storage
So, I am an electric auto manufacture and I have perfected using presses to extrude aluminum front and rear end components, one piece each. I have the electrical control parts pretty much down, cooling/heating the batteries is a pain. I replace the batteries with fuel cells, 1/10 the weight probably size, and voila, solved the maintenance issue and increased recycling to boot.
So where do I get the PT. Do I have a way to get it cheaply Can I refine it in an environmentally friendly way and how close to solving these problem sam I? Starship, go for the low hanging fruit and, this one is politically attractive, it can be sold. Don’t mine Fe or Ni, find PT and perhaps a spot of Pd. I am already good at making thousands of satellites, make thousands of prospecting satellites and have them go looking for Pt asteroids, only the high content/purity need apply.
No, it is not going to be easy, but it is probably doable. Solve one problem at a time, the Pt cost problem and then next problem.
Probably delusional, might just as well eat a toad for breakfast.
Dennis L.
Since you think it is doable, why don’t you do it and post it to here so everyone would be impressed?
Not here to impress, here to learn, try ideas out. Sometime ago I was negative on H, it may have some advantages esp with PT.
Worst book I ever read: “Limits to growth.”
Knew of BRK in 1975, looks like price in 1980 was about $500, now $550K. Dumb, dumb, dumb. believed limits to growth. I invested well enough to not worry, but missed the big moves in large part to LTG. Bragging rights, sat next to Dennis in DC, nice man, he was wrong; only saw earth, we are going to space, indirectly, we will save spaceship earth.
There will be problems with growth, but the losers are those who believe the world is going to end and build a bunker in which to hide. Elon is building rockets, placing satellites in orbit, will avoid wire/fiberoptic costs. He knows electric cars, with Pt and H batteries may well be so yesterday.
Film at eleven,
Dennis L.
For those of us who do not know what exactly is involved with Fuel Cells:
https://ipa-news.com/index/pgm-applications/automotive/fuel-cells.html
What’s a cubic kilogram?
Good point, my error, it is per kg. Thanks, came from copilot and the density was energy density/kg. volumetric density was not mentioned for fuel cells.
Again, thanks for the observation, nice.
Dennis L.
Dennis, Hydrogen has an energy density of 33kwh/kg, not the fuel cell.
The fuel cells are just materials, they have no energy density of their own.
Look at world wide sales of the Toyota Mirai to get an indication of viability of fuel cell vehicles, Toyota have lost billions with it.
Solar, wind and nuclear turned into hydrogen and stored, is a net user of energy not a provider, once you count all the energy put into creating it all, which means a dead end in a world of decreasing energy availability.
Nlind faith hides all facts from someone who is a true believer
Thanks, a quick search didn’t turn up the efficiency of fuel cells.
I am not convinced of solar and wind to hydrogen will not work, not a true believer either.
Looking at alternatives, ff seems a dead end.
Somewhere else posted my thoughts on LTG, it was wrong financially for forty years; the ideas didn’t work and we wont solve todays problems with yesterday’s tools.
Deep belief in biology, something is going to work, it always has and biology is unique. Sounds wishful, based on history of earth. This planet seems engineered very well.
Dennis L.
Deep belief in biology is the most coherent idea so far today Dennis.
Biology is designed for this realm….this realm only.
Why I am starting to like hydrogen as energy transport. It is not without issues, embrittlement comes to mind; but fuel cells, made with platinum which has recycling to recommend it. The stuff is non-reactive, heat it and probably recover >90% of the PT. Per Wikipedia it is also made of KOH, salt carbonates and H3PO4. Compared to lithium and the destruction of our spaceship in mining, this is trivial.
I also like the byproduct, water. If hydrogen is used for transportation, it will have rapid throughput, less capital in storage making negative returns.
What holds it back is expense of the fuel cell, producing H from water using solar should be cheap and solve the storage problem.
Man is unique, there are so many opportunities which are different from dropping large shells on people and complaining one does not have enough of them.
Dennis L.
People have been working on it for years with no tangible results
No stones have been kept untouched.
kul,
The problem is the cost of Pt, Pd, solve that and the problem becomes transporting H. We will deal with it.
Dennis L.
Apart from negative energy availability of solar, wind and nuclear turned into hydrogen, another weak link is molybdenum, we don’t have anywhere near enough.
The stainless steel needed to contain hydrogen is high, as in 2.5%, made of molybdenum. Not good when we mine it in the ppm range mostly as a byproduct of copper mining.
The constraints to the future modern world made of solar, hydrogen and rainbows is full of shortages that unlimited energy would solve, except very limited energy is the real problem..
Hideaway, Space is essentially an unlimited mine with zero friction for transportation.
Send out thousands of satellites, prioritize metals, collect in order of value to make/transform energy and go from there.
Space has unlimited energy without the heat and other associated pollution which earth can no longer tolerate.
Only processed, finished, recyclable products come to earth. Fuel cells appear easy to recycle.
Space X seems to have production of satellites down, Starship can launch thousands of the things. A few good asteroids would get the process going.
There are some very well informed people here, thanks for the observations.
Dennis L.
Dennis, it will all take decades, we don’t have decades. All space programs will end once we get into serious oil decline, probably within the next decade. Even the probe going to the asteroid ‘psyche’, the one with iron and nickel, only plans to orbit it, not land and take samples. It will not reach the asteroid until 2029 and take 2 years decreasing it’s orbit to get closer for the instruments to work.
Assume it is a success by the early ’30’s. By the time we get a ‘craft’ to land on it and get physical samples, return them to Earth, it will be the ’40’s and mining is still decades away.
I’ve heard about the moon being mined. Only problem there is it has 500km thick layer of essentially basalt. We don’t mine basalt here because the grades of everything in it are way too low, except for gravel or road base. Not a lot of use for gravel or road base on the moon…
The moon didn’t have the processes we had here on Earth that concentrated scattered minerals. Things like life, atmosphere, erosion, volcanic and plate movements, etc. Any quantities of anything mined will be very minor because of extremely low grades of everything to start with.
With asteroids and metals, despite there being over 1.5 million discovered, there are only 9 with known high metal contents like Psyche, with Psyche being easily the largest.
“U.S. manufacturers ended the year on a sour note, according to S&P Global’s PMI survey. Production fell at the fastest pace in six months to as the recent decline in the order book intensified. Therefore, the manufacturing sector is likely to have acted as a drag on the economy in the fourth quarter.
“The slowdown is spreading to the labor market. Payrolls were reduced for the third consecutive month as a growing number of companies worried about the development of excess operating capacity. Consequently, in the fourth quarter factories have reduced employment at a pace not seen since 2009, except only the first months of confinement due to the pandemic. ”
https://www.pmi.spglobal.com/Public/Home/PressRelease/9ee83c817447452686723bf10c149471
This news release looks dreadful! The PMI is less than 50. In fact, it looks like it has pretty much at or below 50 for all of 2023; the latest figure is worst.
Day after Christmas Menards ran a 15% off bag sale. Several days before Christmas Menards had 12% rebate, up from normal 11% rebate. Lines were shorter than usual. In prior years 11% rebate ended at Thanksgiving and didn’t return until February(?) or near month.
Understand tax receipts to federal government are down, CA has a huge deficit, MN has spent its excess, various areas are cutting expenses. My CC has frozen tuition for two years.
Deflation is my current guess. This implies gold/silver will fall. Silver is supposedly in deficit, some wag pointed this seemed impossible. It is not at its 2023 peak, gas locally, if one shops carefully was $2.69/gallon last fill up.
Stock market is a guess, short it with puts? Limits losses to cost and has a downside to zero, assuming other party pays.
Interesting times.
Intellectual capital will be in short supply, it depreciates with time and has a final value of zero. Current liberal education is a sunk cost, get a diploma and learn nothing, indeed perhaps learn stuff which does not work. Pay the remainder of your life, no money for children, no one related to help in old age. Metaphor, a farmer who has land and wastes it, nothing for the children.
Dennis L.
Interesting thoughts!
Hopefully this signals the beginning of the end… hopefully they cannot do anything about this … hopefully they cannot reduce rates and pump out cash cuz that will trigger hi-per inflation….
Drop the cannisters
(Eurasian economic forum)
Prof. Anatoly Dolgolaptev, deputy chariman of the scientific council of Russian Academy of Sciences, explained on the 3rd of novembe 2023 how, according to studies since 10 years ago, that climate change is a natural process due to the astronomical change of the inclination angle of the earth which is causing a major illumination of the earth by the sun.
CO2 is not involved at all in the process of this recent climate change.
From timing 4.28.30 (charts around 4.33)
Prof. Dolgolaptev also refers (probably) at this study which deals about the process of decaying of stones of the earth crust which also generates heat in addition to the angle of inclination in respect to the sun.
I looked on the web for the research that he mentioned during his presentation.
https://www.lngs.infn.it/it/news/conclusione-borexino
https://www.welfarenetwork.it/geotermia-l-esperimento-borexino-spiega-da-dove-proviene-il-calore-del-sottosuolo-20200208/
https://home.infn.it/images/materiale_istituzionale/infografiche/info_borexino_geo.pdf
Thanks!
Prof. Anatoly Dolgolaptev’s presentation consists revolves around 19 slides, which are in Russian. I would guess that he is speaking in Italian, however. There is not a translation to English given, which makes the presentation less accessible to English speaking people.
I took screen shots of 16 of the 19 slides. The ones I missed were ones the presenter skipped over quickly. I could upload the slides, separately, to OurFiniteWorld.com, if it would be helpful.
Yes, it has been tranlated in Italian and the forum has been sponsored by various important organizations, among which also a very important bank.
So the translation appears reliable.
His presentation is divided mainly in three parts for climate change.
1) The change of the angle of inclination of the earth as a natural astronomical effect during the centuries, 2) the holes of ozone in the atmosphere caused by hydrogen (that part I need to go more in deep. It is something they have measured in the north emisphere with experiments) and 3) the process of decaying of the earth crust (stones) which cause heat (decaying of Potassium, Uranium, Thorium and others).
This last part comes from a famous experiment called Borexino held in the laboratory of Gran Sasso.
The presentation generates automatically words in Italian that can be then translated into English.
So,
1) he says that one of the Milankovitch cycles is currently increasing insolation in the Northern Hemisphere. I think he implies that the NH is over represented in temperature measurements, and that the SH is probably getting colder.
2) he is also saying that radioactive decays in the Earth mantle are not taken into account in heat balance equations, although these are all very long lived isotopes and would not be able to explain rapid (faster than 1M years) variations.
3) of course he is also saying that water vapor has a stronger warming effect than CO2. No surprise here and what is commonly understood in climate science. Most agree that a warmer world is a wetter world.
I am actually somewhat familiar with Borexino. saw nothing new in what he had to say.
From time around 4.34 he talks about the presence of two gases: hydrogen and potassium which are also responsible for heating of the atmosphere.
The change of the angle contributes about 70/80% of climate change of the world and the rest by emissions of hydrogen and potassium.
Hydrogen is linked to Ozone and that to the holes of Ozone in the atmosphere.
Potassium is not a gas, and it decays radioactively generating energy. ozone was discussed but it is only marginally related to global warming. It was discussed (see the first slide) as an example of geo-climatic predictions gone wrong.
You expect everyone here to read Italian
R&B Singer Monica Collapses On Stage During Houston Concert
https://bnnbreaking.com/breaking-news/health/rb-singer-monica-collapses-on-stage-during-houston-concert/
Fauci > Bougie
You need to remind yourself that this is all just a coincidence, anything other than that is just CT.
Another case of Long Covid….
Funny thing.. no mention of any heart issues when I check stories pre 2021…
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=R%26B+Singer+Monica+poor+health&df=2010-01-01..2022-01-01&ia=web
Mentally Ill … norm you could be his mate https://t.me/leaklive/17532
Enjoy the show https://t.me/EdwardDowdReal/532
Russell Brand: “The data is available now. Excess deaths are rising. The life expectancy in the United States of America is falling and it isn’t because of COVID…Curiously there is a total lack of appetite to investigate this…”
Sudden adult deaths in young people.
“Curiously there is a total lack of appetite to investigate this…”
Correction, they DON’T want to investigate it. Instead lets gaslight the Public about all these sudden deaths, healthy athletes in peak physical condition and in the youthful prime of their lives. Yeah, lets make excuses why 18-19 year athletes are collapsing because their hearts stopped working.
Lets gaslight the public why TV personalities and TV news presenters are collapsing on camera.
Wouldn’t it be delightful if the Elders had worked out a way to cull billions and still keep BAU alive?????
I’d really like to see the Rat Juice death totals accelerate… a Deluge of Daily Deaths DDD… what joy and bliss that would bring to the Unvaxxed…
All those Pro Vax TFIs who wished me dead… getting what they deserve!!! (duncan comes to mind…)
Just thinking about this brings a smile to my face… I feel optimistic … but alas… t’is not possible to cull without collapsing BAU….
I think you are going to get your wish.
Lots more schad is in the works.
Just think of all the dopamine surges you are going to have over the next few years.
This is what a dying BAU looks like — growth is over. It’s all fake and has been for many years….
https://wolfstreet.com/2023/12/31/stock-markets-years-decades-after-huge-bubbles-imploded-china-hong-kong-japan-uk-france-germany-italy-and-spain/
The post starts out:
The US stock market has done better than almost all others, but its growth depended on the growth of the Magnificent 7 tech stocks.
And Apple’s stock lost 3% due to lower demand for its products, especially the iPhone or as FE might say TFiPhone.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/apple-downgraded-cooling-iphone-demand
First a ground rule here. Stock markets are valued in local currency. When that currency’s purchasing power plunges due to inflation year after year for decades, then stock market indices are a reflection of inflation more than of corporate performance. The 1,700% spike in Argentina’s Merval Index in three years, from about 51,000 in January 2021 to 930,000 now is a sign of the collapsing peso, and not of corporate performance. We’re going to ignore those markets. We’re going to stick to the major markets of the largest economies that have had relatively stable currencies and relatively low inflation – 6% year-over-year inflation being relatively low compared to 160% year-over-year (Argentina).
But investors in that stock market may still come out ahead.
When the trucks stop running . Truckers strike in India Day1 . Petrol pumps out of diesel and petrol . In a hill resort near Delhi 100,000 cars of New year day revellers are stuck . No petrol , diesel . The govt passed a law that in case of an accident the driver will have to pay a fine of Rs 1,000,000 = $ 12000 AND imprisonment of 10 years . Average salary of a driver in India is $ 400 per month .No other benefits like insurance etc .
This is yet another measure to get people used to fuel shortages. If it works it will spread.
Not having fuels for cars and trucks because truck drivers are on strike is a huge problem.
Something is clearly wrong with the overall return of fossil fuels, relative to the price. There should be enough funds in the equation for all “players” in the system to get an adequate return, if diminishing returns is not too much of a problem. The players in the system include the truck drivers as well as those extracting the oil and shipping it by boat. The price of oil is not high enough for the system to operate properly. Of course, if the price of oil were higher, more poor people would be pushed out of the system.
Solution:
Starship and platinum. Solar collectors in desert 100mix100mi, conversion to hydrogen. Fuel cells in trucks. No pollution, conversion of existing water on earth to energy and water. No exogenous increase in heat to earth, sun was already shining.
For the worriers, change in ecology of desert as “heat” is moved around in hydrogen conversion to various geographies. Use of electricity is eventually wasted in heat. There is always something for those who need to worry to worry about. Everyone wins.
Mining, refining is space all robotics, all AI.
Delusion is thinking posting here will entitle one to a bowl of popcorn to watch the chaos. It is a very bad bet I think.
Next problem please.
Dennis L.
If we were to get this working, I would have immense hope for the future. To date, we have been able to run a small rock abrasion wheel, and a scoopy thingy fill a jar.
Metal tends to glue to itself in space, and the larger any space machine gets, the more likely it is to fail due to extreme temperatures and inability to vent.
That said, the concept is within the realm of physics, and should be possible. Its just that we need to be sending up everything in to space if this is going to get done. The British private companies seem to be working on some good ideas, but Starship so far has been unable to reach orbit … with a payload of air.
I honestly do not understand what they are trying to do with Starship when there are other vehicles that can do what we would like to see happen in space.
Just good advertizing
I believe there are better vehicles out there.
It’s the learning curve, a good guess is what is needed now is a better source of electricity. Manufacturing process seems much better than all major manufactures. Combine with AI in the Tesla headquarters, a good bet.
Dennis L>
need to get this straight dennis
you put AI into tesla headquarters and you get electricity out?
i realise that confusion is my normality—–but
No sarcasm, I think you know much more than I, but Voyager is now out of the solar system, think it stopped transmitting, had a tape transport mechanism which worked until the end. Voyager was small.
Not sure about starship either, but with every launch he seems to get data, use the same components. Fail and learn I guess.
It won’t be easy.
Dennis L.
tl, dr: betting everything on a technology which does not exist now.
Next fantasy please.
Reality…….invest in research for most efficient ox cart and genetic research for increasing body hair/fur on Homo sapiens.
Time is now up. Humans now learn we are not special and that while inside this simulacrum we need to conform to programs parameters.
Return to the Planet of the Humans…….
This is the sort of data the Elders and their Deep State minions will be monitoring when deciding when to release The Pathogen.
It will be sudden… like those cnnbbc stories that are prepping us already — beware the latest mutation … beware 2.0 …3.0… to keep us on the edge of our seats… nothing comes of any of them …
Then…
BAM!!!! It’s a live drill… the cannisters have been shoved out the back of air planes (or crop dusters as in Utopia) … and it’s Game On. cnnbbc will be alight with clips of clogged hospitals… death will be everywhere… within a day or two Total Lockdowns will be announced…
That will be the beginning of the end.
It will be sudden like that… all will be normal – we will continue to march towards 2030 … and then poof … no more BAU that night… only fear, death and suffering….
Update , 36 hrs of the strike and the Govt surrenders . The laws are put in the freezer .
Strike was worthwhile. Whole process likely to be repeated elsewhere.
Wait for it… https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/90723
The FED is down .
https://www.theautomaticearth.com/forums/topic/debt-rattle-new-years-day-2024/#post-149544