The Approaching US Energy-Economic Crisis

I was recently asked to give a talk called, “The Approaching US Energy-Economic Crisis.” In other words, how might the United States encounter problems that lead to a crisis? As we will see, many of the problems that could lead to a crisis (such as increased wage disparity and difficulty in collecting enough taxes) are issues that we are already beginning to encounter.

In this talk, I first discuss the connection between energy and the economy. Without this connection, it doesn’t make sense to talk about a crisis arising with respect to energy and the economy. I then discuss seven issues that could lead to a US energy-economic crisis.

Economic Growth Is Closely Tied to Energy Consumption

If we look at world data, it is clear that there is a close tie between energy consumption and economic growth.

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On an individual country basis, there can be the belief that we have reached a new situation where a particular country doesn’t really need growing energy supply for economic growth.

Slide 3

For example, on Slide 3, the recent nearly vertical line for the US suggests that the US economy can grow with almost no increase in annual energy consumption. This rather strange situation arises because the standard calculation misses energy embodied in imported goods. Thus, if the United States wants to outsource a great deal of its manufacturing to China, the energy consumption used in making these goods will appear in China’s data, not in the United States’ data. This makes the country that has outsourced manufacturing look very good, both with respect to energy consumption and CO2 emissions.

Buying imported crude oil from elsewhere (such as Saudi Arabia) is also helpful in keeping down energy consumption, because it takes energy of various types to extract oil. If oil extraction takes place in Saudi Arabia, using steel pipes from China, the energy used in extraction will appear in the data of China and Saudi Arabia. Neither China nor Saudi Arabia obtains as much economic growth, relative to its energy expenditures, as does the US. In order to make sense of what is happening, we need to look at the world total.

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We see that the pattern of world energy consumption growth follows a pattern not terribly different from that of China. Its growth is not “straight up.” It does take growing energy supply to create additional goods and services. We are getting a little more efficient in this process over time, but energy is very much needed in many areas of the economy:

  • By businesses, to create goods, such as food, and services, such as vacation travel;
  • By governments, to create roads, schools, and other public services;
  • By individual citizens, to cook food, to heat homes, and for transportation.

The World Economy Is Organized Based on the Laws of Physics

There are many self-organized systems that seem to grow of their own accord in the presence of available energy supplies (that is, in thermodynamically open systems). Plants and animals are examples of growing self-organized systems. Hurricanes, ecosystems, and stars are also such systems. Economies also seem to be such systems. The name given to such a system is a dissipative system.

Slide 5 – Source:

I visualize the world economy as being somewhat like a child’s building toy. It consists of many different elements, a few of which are listed on Slide 5. An economy is self-organized in that new businesses are formed when some entrepreneur sees an opportunity. Consumers decide which product to buy based on which product best serves their needs and based on price. Governments decide on changes to laws and tax levels, depending upon how the economy is functioning at a given time.

This system gradually grows over time, as more businesses and customers are added. As new products and new businesses are added, products and businesses that are no longer needed are taken away. For example, when the private passenger automobile was invented, there was no longer a need to feed and house a large number of horses to be used for transportation purposes. Thus, the system self-organized to eliminate the services needed to care for the many horses used for transportation.

Even if we wanted to get rid of cars and go back to horses, we really could not do so now. In some sense, the structure shown on Slide 5 is hollow, because prior capabilities that are no longer needed tend to disappear. The hollow nature of the economy makes it almost impossible to go backward if we somehow lose our existing capabilities–not enough oil, or an electricity problem, or an international trade problem, or a financial problem. Instead, we will need to build new systems that will function in the new context: depleted resources, a very high population level, high pollution levels, and degraded soils. The existing self-organized system is likely to collapse back to only the part that can be sustained.

Slide 6

Slide 6 is a preview of where this presentation is headed.

Slide 7

Slide 7 describes the issue most people are concerned about: oil prices will rise too high for consumers. In fact, we clearly have had problems with high prices in the recent past. The high prices in 2007 and early 2008 seem to have punctured the debt bubble that existed at that time, as I discuss in an academic article, Oil Supply Limits and the Continuing Financial Crisis.

Shortly before oil prices started to turn back up again in late 2008, the United States instituted a policy of Quantitative Easing (QE), in an attempt to bring interest rates down and thus encourage more debt. Additional debt at low interest rates can “pump up” the economy in several different ways:

[1] Some of this low interest debt can be used by governments to provide funding for unemployment benefits and projects such as road building.

[2] Some of this low interest debt can be used by businesses to open new factories, and thus hire more workers.

[3] Some of this low interest debt can be used by individual citizens to purchase a home, a car, or a college education.

It is the pumping up of the economy with low interest debt that seems to stimulate the economy in a way that raises oil prices. When the US discontinued its third and last phase of QE in late 2014 (shown as “End US QE3” in Slide 7), the pumping up action began to disappear, and oil prices again fell.

Slide 8

The figure in Slide 8 may seem a little exaggerated, but I wanted to make a point. Our wages can roughly be divided into three pieces:

[1] Essential goods whose prices are very much influenced by the price of oil, such as food and gasoline. Besides food and gasoline, the cost of replacing a road, particularly with asphalt, very much depends on the price of oil. Higher costs for roads will be reflected in taxes that we are required to pay. Almost any kind of product that is shipped is affected by the price of oil, because oil is the usual transport fuel. Oil is typically used in the extraction of metal ores, so the price of metals used in making cars, appliances, and other goods is affected by the price of oil. Thus, an oil price increase indirectly leads to inflation in the cost of a wide range of essential goods and services.

To make matters worse, fluctuations in the price of oil can be very large. Between 2000 and 2008, we saw monthly average oil price fluctuate from under $20 per barrel to over $130 per barrel. Thus, while the growth in the food and gasoline segment is somewhat exaggerated, the impact of price changes is much larger than a person might expect, looking only at the impact of higher gasoline prices for a consumer’s vehicle.

[2] Repayment of loans, such as mortgage payments and auto payments. Loan repayments of these types tend to make up a large portion of most people’s spending. If people don’t own their own home, they have rent payments to make. These rent payments are in some ways similar to loan payments, because they indirectly cover the cost of someone else’s mortgage. These costs tend to be fixed, even if the price of oil goes up.

[3] Everything else. These are the non-essential items that we cut back on when budgets are too tight. Examples include charitable contributions, visits to restaurants, and vacation trips.

Looking at Slide 8, it becomes clear that if a government wants to “counteract” high oil prices, it needs to lower interest rates. This will tend to make car payments, mortgage payments, educational loans, and even rents somewhat more affordable, at least for people whose loans are affected by the new low interest rates. Often, homeowners are allowed to refinance, to take advantage of the new lower interest rates.

The plan this year is to raise, rather than lower, interest rates. Needless to say, this has the opposite effect; it tends to reduce the size of the “everything else” segment of our income. This effect tends to be recessionary.

Slide 9

Monarch Air is a British airline that failed recently. It boasted very low fares. One of the problems leading to its failure was a falling pound relative to the US dollar, raising both the price of oil and the price of new airplanes.

Today, the price that oil producers need, including adequate funds for (a) reinvestment and (b) the high taxes that governments need to continue their programs, is likely $100 per barrel or more. Such a price would likely cause recession, because purchases in the “Everything Else” category on Slide 8 would be squeezed.

Slide 10

Most people don’t think about the possibility of oil prices falling too low for producers, but this is a major problem today. When prices are too low, oil companies need to borrow money to continue to operate. They are likely to cut back on developing new extraction sites. With low prices, the tax revenue that the governments of oil-exporting countries are able to collect tends to fall too low, leading to cutbacks in government programs and a need for more debt. Saudi Arabia is running into this difficulty.

The problems that arise from low oil prices can be hidden for quite a while, because investors are likely to see the low prices as a great opportunity. They think, “Surely, oil prices will rise again.” So investors are eager to buy more shares of stock, and banks are willing to issue more debt. At some point, the situation becomes unsustainable, and no more loans are offered.

It has now been about three years since prices fell to a level that is clearly too low for oil producers. It cannot be many more years before something has to “break.” Venezuela is an oil exporter that cannot collect enough revenue from oil exports to afford needed goods, such as food. Other oil exporters may eventually encounter similar problems.

Slide 11

A major reason for falling oil prices is growing wage disparity and the resulting loss in purchasing power for the bottom 90% of workers. In the United States, the bottom 90% obtained about 62% of total income as recently as 1992. In a 2016 Federal Reserve survey, only 49.7% of total income went to the bottom 90%.

The reason why wage disparity is important is because the wealthiest 1% (or even the wealthiest 10%) can’t purchase very much of the goods created using oil. The wealthiest 1% can’t eat very much more food than everyone else. They can only drive one car at a time. In order to have adequate demand for oil, the bottom 90% must have adequate purchasing power for goods such as homes and cars. If young people live with their parents longer, and aren’t able to afford homes, this holds down demand for oil. So does transferring manufacturing to countries where wages are so low that few people can afford cars and other manufactured goods.

Slide 12

Slide 12 shows the Federal Reserve’s graph of the share of families who own (as opposed to rent) their primary residence. There has been a drop in homeownership from 69% in 2004 to less than 64% in 2016. This is a period when wage disparity has been increasing.

Slide 13

Wind and solar are intermittent sources of electricity. They work adequately well in applications where intermittency is no problem, such as charging a cell phone that has a battery, or powering a desalination plant that is not expected to operate around the clock. Most analyses of the benefit of wind and solar are suitable only for these limited situations, because they omit any estimate of the cost of mitigating intermittency.

Intermittency becomes a major problem when wind and solar are added to the electric grid. Wholesale electricity prices may drop to very low levels when both wind and solar electricity are available. At times, prices may become negative. Electricity generation that is designed to be used most of the time (such as coal, nuclear, and even some types of natural gas generation) cannot survive without subsidies to offset the artificially low prices the system produces. The need for subsidies for backup electricity providers is really an indirect cost of adding intermittent types of electricity to the grid, but today’s pricing does not reflect this.

A different workaround for intermittency is to add a large amount of battery backup or other type of storage. In theory, batteries could be used to store electricity generated in the summer for use in the winter, when heating needs are greatest.

Another approach to intermittency is to greatly overbuild intermittent renewables, with the idea of using only that portion of electricity generation that is really needed at any point in time. Yet another approach is adding extra (lightly used) long distance transmission, to try to smooth out fluctuations.

Any of these approaches tends to be expensive. Academic papers estimating the benefit of wind and solar nearly always overlook the cost of mitigating intermittency. Thus, they suggest wind and solar can be solutions, when, in fact, their high cost is likely to lead to the same damaging economic effects as high oil prices. (See Slide 8.)

Slide 14

The dotted line on Slide 14 shows the downward trend in German wholesale electricity prices, as more and more intermittent electricity has been added to the grid. At the same time, total residential electricity prices have risen to higher and higher levels. The countries with the greatest use of wind and solar tend to have the highest retail rates, as shown in Figure 1 below (not in presentation).

Figure 1. Figure by Euan Mearns showing relationship between installed wind + solar capacity and European electricity rates. Source Energy Matters. (Image not part of presentation.)

Slide 15

As we discussed earlier, the “standard” workaround for high oil prices is low interest rates, because of the relationship shown in Slide 8. At some point, however, interest rates fall about as low as they can go.

Slide 16

The interest rates shown on Slide 16 are those for 10-year treasuries. These typically underlie mortgage rates. These rates have been falling since 1981, helping to prop up prices for homes, land, farmland, and other assets purchased with long-term debt. Low interest rates make monthly payments more affordable than high interest rates, so more people can afford to buy such assets. With greater demand, asset prices tend to rise.

Also, with all of the talk about the US continuing to raise interest rates, those owning bonds realize that rising interest rates will cause the selling price of bonds they hold in their portfolio to fall. Thus, pension funds and other organizations that are making a choice between buying bonds (which are certain to fall in selling price, as interest rates rise) and buying stocks, will choose to “overweight” stocks in new purchases for their portfolios. This will tend to push the price of stocks higher, regardless of the earnings potential of the underlying companies.

One thing I didn’t mention in the presentation, but is probably worth pointing out here: Short-term interest rates have been rising since late 2014, even as 10-year treasuries have been holding fairly steady (Figure 2, below). These shorter-term interest rates affect payments on other types of transactions–adjustable rate mortgages and auto loans, for example.

Figure 2. Chart showing 3-month, 1-year, and 2-year interest rates. Chart created by St. Louis Federal Reserve.

These short-term interest rates have been creeping upward, indirectly making certain types of goods less affordable. The increase in short-term interest rates will, by itself, push the economy in the direction of recession.

Eventually, the bubble in asset prices can be expected to collapse, as it did in 2008. Perhaps this will happen when corporate profits fall too low; perhaps this will happen when the economy hits recession. The prices of many types of assets, including shares of stock, prices of homes, and prices of businesses can be expected to fall. There are likely to be many debt defaults in the governmental, business, and personal sectors of the economy. In such a situation, banks may fail.

Slide 17

The goods and services that are delivered each year require the use of physical resources such as oil, coal, natural gas, metals from ores, and wood. In the past, the quantity of these physical resources has grown, year after year, as illustrated in Scenario 1.

In a finite world, we cannot expect the amount of physical resources to grow, indefinitely. At some point something will go wrong, and the amount of resources extracted each year will start becoming smaller, as in Scenario 2. In a sense, the people of the world can expect to become poorer, because the quantity of goods and services that can be made with these resources grows smaller, instead of larger, and each person’s share of the world output becomes smaller.

Standard economic theory says that resource prices will rise, as the quantity of resources falls, but this view does not take into account the way a networked economy really works.

A more likely scenario is that as the quantity of resources falls, wage disparity will increase. As a result, the incomes of many of the lower-wage workers can be expected to fall. The problem is that jobs that pay well require the use of resources; if there is a decrease in resources available, some jobs are likely to be eliminated. Today, such job elimination may come through added technology, eliminating what were previously low-paid jobs. Studies of past collapses support the view that falling wages for the working class played a major role in these collapses. (See Secular Cycles by Peter Turchin and Surgey Nefedov.)

With greater wage disparity, a smaller share of people will be able to afford to buy homes and cars. Scenario 2 in Slide 17 will occur, not because we “run out,” but because too few people can afford to buy goods made with oil, gas, coal, metals and wood. Market prices will fall below the cost of extracting the necessary resources, and companies in these businesses will fail. Governments of oil exporters may collapse, because they cannot collect sufficient tax revenue at the low price available on world markets.

Slide 18

If there are physically less goods and services available, who will get the benefit of these goods and services? I see the situation as almost like musical chairs. Will it be pensioners who lose out, as bonds held by commercial pension programs default, and also as governmental plans are cut back? Or will it be the wages of the less skilled workers that are cut, as more processes are automated, and only managers and highly skilled workers are needed? If this happens, won’t commodity prices fall even further? We really need to have adequate wage levels for a wide range of workers, if we expect to have enough buyers for the goods produced.

Historically, when collapses have occurred, governments have lost out in the game of musical chairs because they could not collect enough tax revenue. The problem was that the bottom 90% of workers became poorer and poorer, and so less able to pay taxes. This brings us to our next potential US problem area.

Slide 19

In January 2017, the US Congressional Budget Office made a projection of how federal debt held by the public would grow, based upon the information available at that time. Their forecast was that the debt would grow to amount to nearly 150% of GDP. This would be a much higher level than during World War II, World War I, or the Civil War (Slide 19).

Slide 20

Since January 2017, more information has become available. We now know about three hurricanes, plus fires in California. Citizens affected by these events need financial support.

We also know about proposed legislation to reduce taxes, especially for businesses and high-income individuals. These proposals are likely to increase after-tax wage disparity, and increase the amount of the deficit. If corporations choose to return any of the benefit of the tax cut, it will likely be through dividends to those who are already wealthy. With respect to corporate tax rates, we are only trying to catch up with tax havens, so it is difficult to believe that the tax change will result in much more US investment.

Slide 21

We don’t think about the internet as being important, but it has become an essential part of our interconnected world economy. The internet helps facilitate all of the just-in-time deliveries needed to operate today’s economy. All of the fancy workarounds for the use of intermittent electricity on the electric grid assume that the internet will be available to transmit information back and forth quickly. Banks make use of the internet to get information to approve loans and to clear checks with other banks.

In the United States, we seem to hear one story after another about the internet being hacked. The most recent story involves a major hack of the data collected by Equifax for the purpose of determining the credit-worthiness of individuals in the US. If this data gets into the wrong hands, it can be used for “Identity Theft.” An impostor can apply for a new loan in the name of someone else, or can steal an income tax refund intended for someone else.

A different hacking situation in the Atlanta area recently led to the theft of a large number of checks intended for direct deposit in teachers’ bank accounts being stolen. They were instead direct deposited to an impostor’s account.

If the internet is truly not secure, no matter what we do, this by itself could cause major problems for the system we now have in place. We don’t have a “Plan B” available, either. Trying to start over with “snail mail,” for example, would be a problem. This is another illustration of the difficulty involved in going back to an earlier technology.

Clearly this list of potential problems is not complete. Hopefully, this list gives an idea of the wide range of issues we are facing.

About Gail Tverberg

My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
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2,174 Responses to The Approaching US Energy-Economic Crisis

  1. J. H. Wyoming says:

    This article is a good lesson in manipulative warlike tactics, in this case against protesting at NFL games by linking the act to criticism of the military. Either you like the military and stand at allegiance to the flag or your against the military. And since the military is one of the most trusted institutions in the US (the article states that not me) then it manipulates public sentiment against protests during the national anthem.

    Trump was sent to military school when he was young because he was such a handful. In military school Trump was known for being extremely manipulative. Nothing changed folks.

    • theblondbeast says:

      John Michael Greer has talked about “patriotic correctness” as the right’s version of “political correctness.” I think he has some good points – basically there is a human tendency toward thought-stoppers which prevent people from talking or thinking about issues openly – let alone objectively.

      To me it seems that what is at risk by not taking sides is the difficult proposition that “right sides” don’t exist, and you are mostly like everyone else.

      • Davidin100millionbilliontrillionzillionyears says:

        JMG often has good points.

        I thought he recently concluded by pointing out that we should check for our own “thought-stoppers”… sorta like saying we should try to detect our own confirmation biases.

        I would suggest that it is usually appropriate to “take a side”… but be open to the possibility of being wrong especially since new information can come your way.

        and, as JMG has often discussed, many issues are not clearly binary, and there are not always “two sides” to settle on.

        all of this makes me think of Gail’s previous post titled “Why what we know ‘for sure’ is wrong”.

    • Davidin100millionbilliontrillionzillionyears says:

      when a person (not you, Rob) can’t make much of an effort to check for errors:

      “When you get kicked out OF school but your dad has 9 oil fields”…

      perhaps the writer was “kicked out school”.

    • theblondbeast says:

      Note the wealth in this picture looks like its from the 1970’s. I mean Swarozski ash tray? Come on.

  2. Rob Bell says:

    Peak Oil May Keep Catastrophic Climate Change in Check

    Scientists suggest that the highest possible pollution rates are unlikely

    • I had forgotten about this article from 2013. The “Peak Oil” scenario assumes that the problem is much more like “running out” than financial collapse. it assumes that we can, in fact, extract anything that looks like it can be extracted. In my opinion, the shortfall in carbon is much greater than anything the IPCC has modeled.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      You see… this is where Don Draper F789ed up….. sort of….

      Most people assume that we will continue to burn fossil fuels until there are no more to burn. So the GGGerbil Werrrbil story scares them

      But a handful of people understand we are never going to come even remotely close to the trillion tonne number because high prices will kill the fossil fuel industries… and end civilization

      So whatever anyone in this small group believes re: geerbbeel weeebly …. real/hoax…. the threat of it inspires no fear whatsoever….

      Because we KNOW that it is physically impossible to burn enough ff to impact the planet significantly

    • J. H. Wyoming says:

      If civilization collapsed today, world temp rises 1-2C from lack of dimming; aerosols, particulates that block sunlight especially from jets no longer spewing into the atmosphere, and continues to warm as thermal inertia releases heat built up in oceans for another 30-40 years to 2047-2057. But if collapse happens soon, i.e. next few years we probably wouldn’t hit runaway you know what, so that’s good. Time for remaining other life-forms to hopefully rebound.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Which MSM outlet told you to believe that? Can you provide a reference for that lie?

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Can I try an experiment on you JH?

          I want to open your head with a cleaver — and observe what happens to your brain when you read this

          KKKllllllimmmmmaaaate countdown: Half a trillion tonnes of carrrrrbon left to burn

          To avoid dangerous ccccli….mmmmmate cccchanaaage of 2C, the world can only burn another half a trillion tonnes of caaaaarboooon, cliiiiimmmmmmaaaate chhhhhhange experts warn

          Here we have the bible of grreeeeen …. stating emphatically that we have done little damage by burning half a trillion tonnes of carbon….

          Stating that ‘dangrous’ implications would only come if we burned double what we burn.

          Since you are on FW I would assume you would agree we will never burn anything remotely near to 500 billion tonnes of ccaaarbon before BAU collapses….

          So I want to observe your brain as it struggles to absorb this information — I specifically want to measure what happens when this information runs head long into your believe that we are about to broil in hell…

          The contradictions happening in your brain must be off the charts.

          Does your brain turn green? Does it pulse as it it were about to explode? Maybe it turns red with anger…

          OI am betting on option 3 . because that’s what usually happens when a theory is challenged….

          In this case – the theory is not challenged… it is run over and crushed

        • Yorchichan says:

          The BBC did a famous documentary on global dimming:

          Not watched it for a long time, but can remember there was one particular bit I took issue with.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            I take issue with just about everything that the BBC spews out…. the BBC is the UK’s answer to CNN….

            • Yorchichan says:

              The only concrete I took was that particulate pollution had caused pan evaporation rates to fall significantly, meaning if pollution went away rainfall would increase. The part about temperatures increasing following the downing of flights after 911 was spurious. What they failed to mention was that the increase in daytime temperatures was offset by a corresponding decrease in night time temperatures and was well within normal variation anyway.

              Agree with you entirely regarding the BBC. Haven’t bought a TV Licence in decades and don’t watch TV.

          • Tim Groves says:

            I just watched this for the first time.

            Measured pan evaporation rates have gone down a lot in the past half century. There is little dispute about that. But there are a number of factors that influence pan evaporation rates, including local temperature, insolation, humidity, rainfall, air pressure, wind and the salinity of the water. For instance, a little bit of olive or gasoline on the surface of a pan of water will significantly change the pan evaporation rate. Adding many kinds of salt to the water will also slow down evaporation.

            Atmospheric dimming is also a fact that is beyond dispute. The extent to which it is a global phenomena is arguable but it probably is global to some extent. It’s an interesting theory that GD is offsetting GW because what blocks radiation from coming in can often block radiation from going out. I’d like to see more work on the physics of those processes.

            If temperature really has gone up while pan evaporation rates have gone down significantly, then a possible reason is that manmade global dimming is suppressing both temp and pan evaporation and so without the dimming we would be even warmer. But to say so with confidence we would need to look at some other possibilities.

            First of all, and this is a biggie!, Which factors have the most affect on pan evaporation? As with the washing drying on the clothes line, is it the sun or the wind or the humidity of the surrounding air that is “doing the work” of drying? Do your jeans and t-shirts dry faster on a windy & cloudy day or a sunny & calm day?

            We have lots of observations that suggest that globally wind speeds have been declining for half a century. The phenomenon has been called “stilling” and globally the average terrestrial wind speed has decreased by 0.5 kilometres per hour (0.3 miles per hour) every decade, according to data starting in the 1960s.


            Less wind means less pan evaporation. And we would have to research whether land use changes down the decades have affected any of the pan evaporation sites.

            However, what I’m really interested in is the link between pan evaporation rates and the extent of global evaporation. According to the EPA (which has been under President Obama one of the more aggressive pushers of the GW/CC narrative):

            On average, total annual precipitation has increased over land areas in the United States and worldwide. Since 1901, global precipitation has increased at an average rate of 0.08 inches per decade, while precipitation in the contiguous 48 states has increased at a rate of 0.17 inches per decade.


            If rainfall has increased, then the amount of water evaporating from the ground and the oceans to create rain must also have increased. (Please correct me if I’m wrong here!) That rainwater has to come from somewhere, right? So global evaporation must have increased over the same period.

            And if unmeasurable but actual global evaporation rates have really been increasing while measured pan evaporation rates have been decreasing then we have a paradox, or else we have an obvious case of somebody getting their measurements wrong somewhere.

            • Thanks! I was noticing that these come from fairly official source. The Horizon magazine is an EU related publication; the precipitation numbers are from the EPA.

  3. Fast Eddy says: my last article ‘A Tactical Analysis Of The Las Vegas Mass Shooting Incident,’ I outlined the precarious nature of the mainstream narrative and why the Vegas event in particular requires serious independent investigation into the possibility that Stephen Paddock did not plan or execute the event alone, or, he did not plan or execute the event at all, and someone else with far more tactical knowledge and shooting experience committed the murders outside the Mandalay Bay Hotel. Given that the FBI and Vegas sheriff’s timeline seems to change every few days and that Mandalay surveillance footage is locked up tight, I think it is safe to say that someone more professional, and not muzzled by bureaucracy, needs be involved.

    Setting aside the inconsistencies in the official narrative, questioning the motives behind this particular attack does not really bring us any closer to a practical solution. Of course, if you are one of those people that obsessively embraces the “crisis actor” theory, then you likely think that nothing much needs to be solved because “no one actually died.” I am not very interested in this impractical theory reminiscent of ‘The Truman Show’, nor the people that promote it. It reminds me of the 9/11 hologram plane theory — remember, the theory designed to discredit the more legitimate 9/11 truth movement which included hundreds of scientists, architects and engineers with real arguments and evidence? Yeah, those establishment disinformation tactics did not go away; they are still being used today to undermine honest and rational investigations of other potential false flag events.

  4. Fast Eddy says:

    New Zealand commits to zero carbon by 2050

    New Zealand’s new prime minister Jacinda Ardern has committed the country to erasing its carbon footprint by the middle of the century. The Labour leader, who brokered a coalition with the populist right New Zealand First party on Thursday, said on Friday that addressing climate change would be among her top priorities. Ardern said: “I do anticipate that we will be a government, as I said during the campaign, that will be absolutely focused on the challenge of climate change.” The 2050 target would put New Zealand in the vanguard of climate action. Sweden aims for net zero emissions by 2045. Norway has bid to be carbon neutral by 2030. Both nations will rely on offsetting residual emissions by buying international carbon credits and planting trees.

    • Minor detail–we have no way of operating our economy on zero carbon.

      • Name says:

        When someone talks about abandoning fossil fuels it is good to show him this chart:

      • grayfox says:

        There is the Hunter/Gatherer economy. which is essentially carbon neutral. Worked just fine for millenia.

        • Whether or not it was “carbon neutral,” it was not at all sustainable. We were wiping out other species back at that time, and our own population was gradually rising. If we had continued along the line of cooking part of our food, and using burned biomass for other purposes as well (for clearing areas, so that we could hunt animals better, and for heat, and for making stones shaper) we would very quickly be changing the climate in local areas. Also, if we attempted to farm, our actions would lead to a situation where soil erosion would become a major problem. As population would rise, it would be inevitable that we would need to burn fossil fuels, to supplement energy from wood and other biomass. Wind and water never amounted to much, in terms of energy.

          Wrigley exhibit

          Annual energy consumption per head (megajoules) in England and Wales 1561-70 to 1850-9 and in Italy 1861-70. Figure by Wrigley

          • grayfox says:

            That’s the interesting part of the hunter/gatherer equation. The population of many native american tribes did not rise. There was violent tribal warfare along with more ordinary mortality like accidents, infection, starvation, etc. Many tribes were not growing, or dying out altogether to balance out the ones that thrived. Historically the wiping out of species was a mere trifle to what is occurring today, to the point of being a non-factor.

            • The death rate from killing other humans was a whole lot higher than today, back in the hunter-gatherer period.

              Many animals have territorial instincts, and humans no doubt, did, as well. Groups of hunter gatherers didn’t get larger and larger; instead, they broke apart as population got larger. Then they fought other groups, helping to keep total population down. Trade and “civilization” tended to reduce this effect in humans. Different religious views tended to keep it operating, to some extent.

            • Artleads says:

              “Historically the wiping out of species was a mere trifle to what is occurring today, to the point of being a non-factor.”

              This has been my understanding too. In the past 40 years, half of all wild species have gone extinct, while the human species has doubled. And, along with its farm animals, now outnumber wild animals to the high 90’s percent. But that might be way too simple an understanding to serve any useful purpose. I don’t understand Gail’s points about extinction, but I’ve learned that this might have more to do with my naive oversimplifications than anything else.

              I also don’t understand what is meant by civilization coming to an inevitable, dissipative end. Whose civilization? What is called civilization is based on all kinds of assumptions that make the powerful feel good. It seems to me that civilization could be viewed in a completely different way, to suit a different set of assumptions, and has no foreseeable dissipative conclusion. What could come to an end is complex life, which is not the same as civilization. Again, I ask, whose civilization?

            • Fast Eddy says:


              Has Half of World’s Wildlife Been Lost in Past 40 Years?

              The overall message is that biodiversity continues to decline, says Stuart Pimm, a conservation ecologist at Duke University in Durham, North Carolina, who recently published a study in the journal Science on biodiversity and extinction rates. (See “Species Extinction Happening 1,000 Times Faster Because of Humans?”)

              But Pimm is skeptical of the approach WWF used to calculate the species loss. “I’m not a fan of this planetary index because it mixes a lot of different numbers together in an essentially arbitrary way-therefore, it’s hard to know what exactly is meant by a 50 percent loss of vertebrates over the last 40 years.”

              For instance, you can’t put British songbirds in the same category as West African lions—”it’s an apples and oranges and pears and grapes and cookies index that lumps a whole bunch of things together in a way that requires a lot of effort to dissect all the different pieces,” he said.

              “It’s not ‘we lost half of all vertebrates’—it’s more complex than that,” Pimm says.

              “There is a lot of data in this report and it can seem very overwhelming and complex,” Hoekstra said in a statement. “What’s not complicated are the clear trends we’re seeing.”


            • This is a huge loss in 40 years. The report says:

              “This “Living Planet Index” declined by 52 percent between 1970 and 2010, “a much bigger decrease than has been reported previously,” according to the report.”

              I am sure that there were losses earlier, so the long-term loss is a lot greater.

            • DJ says:

              Without fossil fuels I don’t think humans could extinct themselves. And if we don’t succeed in extincting ourselves in our first try we won’t get a second chance.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        What I am wondering … is how much of my tax dollar is going to be wasted on this stuuuupidity.

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