A $1.9 trillion stimulus package was recently signed into law in the United States. Can such a stimulus bill, plus packages passed in other countries, really pull the world economy out of the downturn it has been in since 2020? I don’t think so.
The economy runs on energy, far more than it operates on growing debt. Our energy problems don’t appear to be fixable in the near term, such as six months or a year. Instead, the economy seems to be headed for a collapse of its debt bubble. Eventually, we may see a reset of the world financial system leading to fewer interchangeable currencies, far less international trade and falling production of goods and services. Some governments may collapse.
[1] What Is Debt?
I understand debt to be an indirect promise for future goods and services. These future goods and services can only be created if there are adequate supplies of the right kinds of energy and other materials, in the right places, to make these future goods and services.
I think of debt as being a time-shifting device. Indirectly, it is a promise that the economy will be able to provide as many, or more, goods and services in the future compared to what it does at the time the loan is taken out.
Common sense suggests that it is much easier to repay debt with interest in a growing economy than in a shrinking economy. Carmen Reinhart and Ken Rogoff unexpectedly ran across this phenomenon in their 2008 working paper, This Time Is Different: A Panoramic View of Eight Centuries of Financial Crises. They reported (p. 15), “It is notable that the non-defaulters, by and large, are all hugely successful growth stories.” In other words, their analysis of 800 years of governmental debt showed that default was almost inevitable if a country stopped growing or started shrinking.
The IMF estimates that the world economy shrank by 3.5% in 2020. There are many areas with even worse indications: Euro Area, -7.2%; United Kingdom, -10.0%; India, -8.0%; Mexico, -8.5%; and South Africa, -7.5%. If these situations cannot be turned around quickly, we should expect to see collapsing debt bubbles. Even the US, which shrank by 3.4%, needs a rapid return to growth if it is to keep its debt bubble inflated.
[2] The Inter-Relationship Among (a) Growing Debt, (b) Growing Energy Consumption and a (c) Growing Economy
When we are far from energy limits, growing debt seems to pull the economy along. This is a graphic I put together in 2018, explaining the situation. A small amount of debt is helpful to the system. But, if there gets to be too much debt, both oil prices and interest rates rise, bringing the braking system into action. The bicycle/economy rapidly slows.
Just as a two-wheeled bicycle needs to be going fast enough to stay upright, the economy needs to be growing rapidly enough for debt to do what it is intended to do. It takes energy supply to create the goods and services that the economy depends on.
If oil and other energy products are cheap to produce, their benefit will be widely available. Employers will be able to add more efficient machines, such as bigger tractors. These more efficient machines will act to leverage the human labor of the workers. The economy can grow rapidly, without the use of much debt. Figure 2 shows that the world oil price was $20 per barrel in 2020$, or even less, prior to 1974.
Figure 3 below shows the historical relationship between the growth in US energy consumption (red line) and the dollar increase in US debt growth required to add a dollar increase in GDP (blue line). This chart calculates ratios for five-year periods because ratios for individual years are unstable.
Based on Figure 3, the US average annual growth in energy consumption (red line) generally fell between 1951 and 2020. The quantity of debt that needed to be added to create an additional $1 dollar of GDP (blue line) has generally been rising.
According to Investopedia, Gross domestic product (GDP) is the total monetary or market value of all the finished goods and services produced within a country’s borders in a specific time period. Notice that there is no mention of debt in this definition. If businesses or governments can find a way to make large amounts of credit available to borrowers who are not very credit worthy, it becomes easy to sell cars, motorcycles or homes to buyers who may never repay that debt. If the economy hits turbulence, these marginal buyers are likely to default, causing a collapse in a debt bubble.
[3] Analyzing Energy Consumption Growth, Debt Growth and Economic Growth for Broader Groupings of Years
To get a better idea what is happening with respect to energy growth, debt growth, and GDP growth, I created some broader groupings of years, based primarily on patterns in Figure 2, showing inflation-adjusted oil prices. The following groupings of years were chosen:
- 1950-1973
- 1974-1980
- 1981-2000
- 2001-2014
- 2015-2020
Using these groupings of years, I put together charts in which it is easier to see trends.
Figure 4 shows that for the US, there has been a general downward trend in the annual growth of energy consumption. At same time, real (that is, inflation-adjusted) GDP has been trending downward, but not quite as quickly.
We would expect that lower energy consumption would lead to lower growth in real GDP because it takes energy of the appropriate kinds to make goods and services. For example, it takes oil to ship most goods. It takes electricity to operate computers and keep the lights on. According to the World Coal Association, large quantities of coal are used in producing cement and steel. These are important for construction, such as is planned in stimulus projects around the world.
Also, on Figure 4, the period 1981 to 2000 shows an uptick in both energy consumption growth and real GDP growth. This period corresponds to a period of relatively low oil prices (Figure 2). With lower oil prices, businesses found it affordable to add new devices to leverage human labor, making workers more productive. The growing productivity of workers is at least part of what led to the increased growth in real GDP.
Figure 5, above, is disturbing. It strongly suggests that the US economy (and probably a lot of other economies) has needed to add an increasing amount of debt to add $1 of GDP in recent years. This pattern started long before President Biden’s $1.9 trillion stimulus package in 2021.
To make matters worse, GDP growth in Figure 5 has not been reduced to remove the impact of inflation. On average, removing the impact of inflation reduces the above GDP growth by about half. In the period 2015 to 2020, it took about $4.35 of additional debt to add one dollar of GDP growth, including inflation. It would take about double that amount, or $8.70 worth of debt, to create $1.00 worth of inflation-adjusted growth. With such a low return on added debt, it seems unlikely that the $1.9 trillion stimulus package will increase the growth of the economy very much.
[4] Falling interest rates (Figure 6) are a major part of what allowed the rapid growth in debt after 1981 shown in Figure 5.
Clearly, debt is more affordable if the interest rate is lower. For example, auto loans and home mortgages have lower monthly payments if the interest rate is lower. It is also clear that governments need to spend less of their tax revenue on interest rate payments if interest rates are lower. Changes made by US President Ronald Reagan when he took office 1981 also encouraged the use of more debt.
A major concern with respect to today’s debt bubble is the fact that interest rates are about as low as they can go without going negative. In fact, the interest rate on 10-year Treasury bonds is now 1.72%, which is higher than the February 2021 average rate shown on the chart. As interest rates rise, it becomes more costly to add more debt. As interest rates rise, businesses will be less likely to take on debt in order to expand and hire more workers.
[5] Interest expense is a major expense of governments, businesses, and homeowners everywhere. Energy costs are another major expense of governments, businesses, and homeowners. It makes sense that falling interest rates can partly hide rising energy prices.
A trend toward lower interest rates was needed starting in 1981 because the US could no longer produce large amounts of crude oil that were profitable to sell at less than $20 per barrel, in inflation-adjusted prices. Lower interest rates made adding debt more feasible. This added debt could smooth the transition to an economy that was less dependent on oil, now that it was high-priced. The lower interest rates helped all segments of the economy adjust to the new higher cost of oil and other fuels.
[6] The US experience shows precisely how helpful having a rapidly growing supply of inexpensive to produce oil could be to an economy.
US oil production, excluding Alaska (blue “remainder” in Figure 7), rose rapidly after 1945 but began to decline not long after hitting a peak in 1970. This growing oil production had temporarily provided a huge boost to the US economy.
Up until almost 1970, US oil production was rising rapidly. Figure 8 shows that during this period, incomes of both the bottom 90% of workers and the top 10% of workers increased rapidly. Over a period of about 20 years, incomes for both groups grew by about 80%, after adjusting for inflation. On average, workers were about 4% better off each year, with the rapid growth in very inexpensive-to-produce oil, all of which stayed in the US (rather than being exported). US imports of inexpensive-to-produce oil also grew during this period.
Once oil prices were higher, income growth for both the lower 90% and the top 10% slowed. With the changes made starting in 1981, wage disparities quickly started to grow. There suddenly became a need for new, high-tech approaches that used less oil. But these changes were more helpful to the managers and highly educated workers than the bottom 90% of workers.
[7] Most of the world’s cheap-to-extract oil sources have now been exhausted. Our problem is that the world market cannot get prices to rise high enough for producers to cover all of their expenses, including taxes.
Based on my analysis, the world price of oil would need to be at least $120 per barrel to cover all of the costs it needs to cover. The costs that need to be covered include more items than an oil company would normally include in its costs estimates. The company needs to develop new fields to compensate for the ones that are being exhausted. It needs to pay interest on its debt. It also needs to pay dividends to its shareholders. In the case of shale producers, the price needs to be high enough that production outside of “sweet spots” can be carried on profitably.
For oil exporters, it is especially important that the sales price be high enough so that the government of the oil exporting country can collect adequate tax revenue. Otherwise, the exporting country will not be able to maintain food subsidy programs that the population depends on and public works programs that provide jobs.
[8] The world can add more debt, but it is difficult to see how the debt bubble that is created will really pull the world economy forward rapidly enough to keep the debt bubble from collapsing in the next year or two.
Many models are based on the assumption that the economy can easily go back to the growth rate it had, prior to COVID-19. There are several reasons why this seems unlikely:
- Many parts of the world economy weren’t really growing very rapidly prior to the pandemic. For example, shopping malls were doing poorly. Many airlines were in financial difficulty. Private passenger auto sales in China reached a peak in 2017 and have declined every year since.
- At the low oil prices prior to the pandemic, many oil producers (including the US) would need to reduce their production. The 2019 peak in shale production (shown in Figure 7) may prove to be the peak in US oil production because of low prices.
- Once people became accustomed to working from home, many of them really do not want to go back to a long commute.
- It is not clear that the pandemic is really going away, now that we have kept it around this long. New mutations keep appearing. Vaccines aren’t 100% effective.
- As I showed in Figure 5, adding more debt seems to be a very inefficient way of digging the economy out of a hole. What is really needed is a growing supply of oil that can be produced and sold profitably for less than $20 per barrel. Other types of energy need to be similarly inexpensive.
I should note that intermittent wind and solar energy is not an adequate substitute for oil. It is not even an adequate substitute for “dispatchable” electricity production. It is simply an energy product that has been sufficiently subsidized that it can often make money for its producers. It also sounds good, if it is referred to as “clean energy.” Unfortunately, its true value is lower than its cost of production.
[9] What’s Ahead?
I expect that oil prices will rise a bit, but not enough to raise prices to the level producers require. Interest rates will continue to rise as governments around the world attempt more stimulus. With these higher interest rates and higher oil prices, businesses will do less and less well. This will slow the economy enough that debt defaults become a major problem. Within a few months to a year, the worldwide debt bubble will start to collapse, bringing oil prices down by more than 50%. Stock market prices and prices of buildings of all kinds will fall in inflation-adjusted dollars. Many bonds will prove to be worthless. There will be problems with empty shelves in stores and gasoline stations with no products to sell.
People will start to see that while debt is a promise for the equivalent of future goods and services, it is not necessarily the case that those who make the promises will be able to stand behind these promises. Paper wealth generally can be expected to lose its value.
I can imagine a situation, not too many years from now, when countries everywhere will establish new currencies that are not as easily interchangeable with other currencies as today’s currencies are. International trade will dramatically fall. The standard of living of most people will fall precipitously.
I doubt that the new currencies will be electronic currencies. Keeping the electricity on is a difficult task in economies that increasingly need to rely solely on local resources. Electricity may be out for months at a time after an equipment failure or a storm. Having a currency that depends on electricity alone would be a poor idea.
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HERE’S A GUY WITH 34 PEER-REVIEWED PAPERS ON PROTEINS, VIRUSES, DNA WORK
COPIED ARE A FEW EXCERPTS THAT UNDERMINE PANIC OVER VIRUS VARIANTS..
“Vincent R. Racaniello is a Higgins Professor in the Department of Microbiology and Immunology at Columbia University’s College of Physicians and Surgeons. He is a co-author of a textbook on virology, Principles of Virology.”
“Racaniello has received the Irma T. Hirschl, Searle Scholars, Eli Lilly, Julius Younger and NIH Merit awards. He has also been a Harvey Society Lecturer at Rockefeller University, the Hilleman Lecturer at the University of Chicago, and University Lecturer at Columbia University.”
https://dryburgh.com/vincent-racaniello-coronavirus-variant-voc-202012-01/
Transcript (EXCERPTS)
Here’s a headline from the New York times this past weekend, the Corona virus is mutating. What does that mean for us?
“Well, actually it probably doesn’t mean very much. I would say this is not a headline because viral genomes are always mutating. I think the headline writer needs to bone up on his or her virology.
We have seen 12,000 mutations and any two of those isolates differ by about 10 bases. So 10 out of 30,000 bases differ. And many of these have no consequence.”
“They’re actually just markers that we can use to do contact tracing, but they have no effect on the way the virus reproduces. None of these mutations have led to a new strain. A strain is a variant that has a distinct biological property. And I mean, in people, you can look in cells in the laboratory and find all kinds of differences, but what matters is in people, and as far as I’m concerned, none of the isolates so far have proven implications for human transmission or pathogenesis, including the latest variant isolated from the UK.”
“Coincidentally they’re neutral, they have no effect. And they seem to spread rapidly to a lot of people that alarms people, but in fact, it’s meaningless. And one of the ways you can look at this is because we know that SARS-CoV-2 spreading when it happens, is actually done by a very few individuals.”
“And so they’re saying that, um, in places where they see this variant, the, the R value is increasing. However, I would say, and again, this is my theme. You can’t use epidemiological data to prove a biological effect of a amino acid change in a virus.”
“You have to do experiments to do that. And that’s what they’re doing here. They say, there is an increase in the transmissibility. It must be because of the variant. Well, obviously that’s a flawed argument. That’s not how we do science.”
Vincent Racaniello is someone to follow:
https://www.microbe.tv/twiv/
A little complex for our members here, and very contrary to the anti science view expressed by many.
But give it a try,
Thanks, Duncan. There needs to be more than one side of the vaccine story presented.
The link is to the latest This Week in Virology episode. The Title is “SARS-CoV-2 in NYC [New York City] Wastewater.” There is a link to a preprint article called Protocol for Safe, Affordable, and Reproducible Isolation and Quantitation of SARS-CoV-2 RNA from Wastewater
The introduction to the podcast says:
If a person scrolls down, they can see what topics have been discussed in the recent past. I notice that two weeks ago, Dr. Daniel Griffin in episode #735 discussed several topics including “impact of vaccines on asymptomatic infections.” The link given with respect to that subject is a peer reviewed report: Impact of the COVID-19 Vaccine on Asymptomatic Infection Among Patients Undergoing Pre-Procedural COVID-19 Molecular Screening
That report says:
So, this analysis would seem to suggest that there are a lot fewer asymptomatic cases of COVID-19 with the mRNA vaccines, rather than more.
Yep—
Griffin’s weekly reports with Racaniello are really insightful.
He is in charge of thousands of Covid cases, and is somewhat despondent with losing many patients a day.
But if you want a view of reality—–
You want reality… Sweden should be top spot… find Sweden… https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/
You want more reality? This is FANTASTIC STUFF!!! https://gnews.org/451659/
And then there is this
https://www.bitchute.com/video/uLStFKAw8Okm/
lol!
BitChute is a video hosting service known for accommodating far-right individuals and conspiracy theorists, and for hosting hateful content.[a][b] The platform was created in 2017 to allow video uploaders to avoid content rules enforcement on YouTube,[14] and some creators who have been banned from YouTube or had their channels barred from receiving advertising revenue (“demonetised”) have migrated to BitChute.[1]
There is more than one view regarding everything. Sometimes one view is right. Sometimes the other view is right. Sometimes neither is right. I don’t appreciate YouTube deciding for me what is right.
That is wiki—
If you have a view to the contrary, publish it.
Wiki is available.
Wikis don’t work well on controversial topics. If a person makes a change, someone with the opposite view is likely to change it back again.
Yes Duncan Bitchute … I’d prefer to give you a YT link but they won’t allow this discussion….
So Mike Yeadon is crazy right…and not worth hearing out. I suppose he was really the janitor at Pfizer so what would he know that the Great Duncan doesn’t already know because the Great Duncan is so brilliant.
Funny thing… I sent this to another CovIDIOT and he immediately responded with ‘Bitchute???’
Ya Bitchute… it’s like YT but it doesn’t censor experts who are not on board with the Covid lie…he won’t watch it either.
Isn’t it amazing that both of you responded similarly?
Do you guys got to MORe ON School? You had to have learned this behaviour somewhere.
you are exhibiting symptoms of severe Moronism
Dr Yeadon is a co-founder of Ziarco and CEO. He is an Allergy & Respiratory therapeutic area expert, developed out of deep knowledge of biology & therapeutics, and is an innovative drug discoverer with over 25 years of experience in drug discovery and development.
Dr Yeadon has published over 40 original research articles and since 2011 has consulted to more than 20 biotechnology companies. Prior to consulting as an independent, he was Vice President and Chief Scientific Officer of the A&R Research Unit of Pfizer.
At Pfizer, Dr Yeadon was responsible for target selection and the progress into humans of new molecules, leading teams of up to 200 staff across all disciplines and won an Achievement Award for productivity in 2008.
Under his leadership the unit invented oral and inhaled NCEs which delivered positive clinical proofs of concept in asthma, allergic rhinitis and COPD. He led productive external collaborations and was involved in product and device licensing.
Prior to Pfizer, Dr Yeadon worked at the Wellcome Research Labs with Salvador Moncada with a research focus on airway hyper-responsiveness and effects of pollutants including ozone and working in drug discovery of 5-LO, COX, NO and lung inflammation.
With colleagues, he was the first to detect exhaled NO in animals and later to induce NOS in lung via allergic triggers. He attended the University of Surrey in Guildford, U.K, where he received his PhD (under Professor Ian Kitchen), with thesis work in the respiratory field, and a BSc, First Class, with Joint Honours, in Biochemistry and Toxicology.
Eddy, Eddy, Eddy; not so fast. How is it that you don’t see your confirmation bias? Yeadon’s riding the Pale Horse carrying a Scythe dripping blood. That’s right up your alley, right? So, of course, it’s obvious how this multi-millionaire sitting in his working-class garage (for effect I suppose) is wrapping a few doomers around his finger. Others can easily point out that he’s black-washing legitimate opposition (on a number of questions unresolved to date) by associating known information in a limited hang-out manner (thus getting heads to nod) with a repulsive contention regarding motive. You’ve noticed a glitch in the matrix yesterday I read. Hmmm, which is it Yeadon – Totalitarianism or Genocide? Hey, call him up and suggest Genotarianism, that way he’s got all bases covered.
And now for something completely different….
I’m sure you’ll agree that Naomi Wolf is still looking sexy after all these years. Today she’s warning about what’s coming down the pipe for Americans, Brits and Israelis vis-à-vis Chinese style social credit/vaccine passport systems.
More reasons why I’m glad I’m not there.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/lh69yCkHIVLi/
Wolf is right about the danger but I have seen how cowardly and inactive Americans are. There will be no resistance.
@Ed, I agree with you.
Even more surprising the Europeans are just as anesthetized. They lost their civil society, their “nice” police, their schools and their healthcare in one year.
They were paid (80% of salary for people staying home) but still is hard to see who is more cowardly.
She’ll need to address the fact that conventional peaked in 05 and shale in 19…. if she’s going to bring me on board with her ‘control’ theory…
Bernays has been controlling the masses for a hundred years… this is not about control.
it’s about extermination … that’s quite obvious .. but I suppose that’s a hard pill for those with children and grandchildren to swallow…
{I keep asking people to explain to me why we are vaccinating children with an experiment when they do not get seriously ill from Covid…. in a nice way (pretending I am dumb and don’t get it)… all I get are blank stares… I joked yesterday with someone asking why Ontario has passed a law that allows employers to fire unvaxxed… because they are a threat to their other workers… but the other workers have the vax… so how is it they are threat …. more blank dumb stares….. I ask my dog the same questions — she gives me a blank dumb stare… she probably knows the answer but she doesn’t care… all she wants is to be let out to chase rabbits.}
So they look for these feeble explanations… and they try to convince themselves that ‘the pharmas want to make money — or the governments are injecting tech into our bodies to control us’
Come the F567 on people…. I know the kitchen is very hot … deal with it.
We are brewing one nasty virus (Devil Covid … Nightmare Scenario cometh) with these lockdowns, masks and leaky vaccines.
https://media1.fdncms.com/chicago/imager/quick-deadline-for-city-artists-grant-is-one-minute-before-midnight-tomo/u/original/9332298/1366254708-shutterstock_55812874.jpg
Angel Covid, compassionate scenario. Stay on script least you get a horse head in your bed to remind you.
NZ is the safest place for your billionaire bunker come and restart the world with us.
It has been a fascinating transformation: Naomi Wolf was spouting feminist nonsense a short while ago, and now she is a foremost defender of human and civic freedom. I would add spiritual freedom, too.
She says that she is no longer welcome in fashionable Leftist circles: a badge of honour, like being thrown off YT, Twitter, etc.
A few noble people are emerging with honour in these dark times – while the ‘follow The Science (TM)’ and inject-the-children crowd sink ever lower into the mire of their own lies.
Texas COVID-Positivity-Rate Plunges To Record Low After Mask-Mandate Lifted, Restaurants Back To Pre-Crisis Levels
According to the relentless pro-mask propaganda, this wasn’t supposed to happen.
For the better part of the past year, the US public was bombarded with “science” how only the wearing of a mask (or two masks, or three masks or more) was the only thing that stood between the Western way of life and Armageddon (despite the periodic emergence of cold, hard data showing no improvement in covid transmission in states that mandated masks vs those that did not, at least until Twitter decided to ban it). Then, one month ago, Texas had had enough and its governor shocked the Faucis of the world – and the White House – when he declared that the mask mandate in the state was officially over.
What happened then?
Well, in a development that would likely shock Dr. Fauci, newly confirmed Coronavirus cases in Texas plunged to their lowest since June, roughly three weeks after the state lifted its mask mandate and reopened businesses.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/texas-covid-cases-drop-record-low-after-mask-mandate-lifted-restaurants-back-pre-crisis
Having a vaccine passport means the government – not you – will decide what needs injecting into you at regular intervals each year, in order for you to live a “normal” life.
https://twitter.com/DamoPelham3/status/1376712555385614337
Fast Eddy, can you put a shoulder to this puzzle. I’m trying to figure out if someone stole the corporate brain of Merck and if it’s just lumbering along like a zombie. Did you know about the The Mectizan® Donation Program to eliminate onchocerciasis aka river blindness and lymphatic filariasis aka elephantiasis?
https://mectizan.org/what/diseases/#:~:text=The%20Mectizan%20%C2%AE%20Donation%20Program%20%28MDP%20or%20the,debilitating%20parasitic%20diseases%20cause%20pain%2C%20suffering%2C%20and%20stigmatization.
Well, golleee Gomer, look at that, it’s still going on after all these years. Guess what’s used to cure these parasitic diseases? Yup, Ivermectin. But, it’s not OK to use it for a deadly disease like Covid, because side-effects? After hundreds of millions of doses to people all over the world for decades? They got over-ruled by NIH recently, but still, inquiring minds want to know, for the children, you know and the history books we’ll need to rewrite.
https://dryburgh.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/FLCCC-Ivermectin-in-the-prophylaxis-and-treatment-of-COVID-19.pdf
History of Ivermectin
In 1975, Professor Satoshi Omura at the Kitsato institute in Japan isolated an unusual Streptomyces bacteria from the soil near a golf course along the south east coast of Honshu, Japan. Omura, along with William Campbell, found that the bacterial culture could cure mice infected with the roundworm Heligmosomoides polygyrus. Campbell isolated the active compounds from the bacterial culture, naming them “avermectins” and the bacterium Streptomyces avermitilis for the compounds’ ability to clear mice of worms (Crump and Omura, 2011). Despite decades of searching around the world, the Japanese microorganism remains the only source of avermectin ever found. Ivermectin, a derivative of avermectin, then proved revolutionary. Originally introduced as a veterinary drug, it soon after made historic impacts in human health, improving the nutrition, general health and wellbeing of billions of people worldwide ever since it was first used to treat Onchocerciasis (river blindness) in humans in 1988. It proved ideal in many ways, given that it was highly effective, broad spectrum, safe, well tolerated and could be easily administered (Crump and Omura, 2011).
Although it was used to treat a variety of internal nematode infections, it was most known as the essential mainstay of two global disease elimination campaigns that has nearly eliminated the world of two of its most disfiguring and devastating diseases. The unprecedented partnership between Merck & Co. Inc., and the Kitasato Institute combined with the aid of international health care organizations has been recognized by many experts as one of the greatest medical accomplishments of the 20th century. One example was the decision by Merck & Co to donate ivermectin doses to support the Meztican Donation Program which then provided over 570 million treatments in its first 20 years alone (Tambo et al.). Ivermectins’ impacts in controlling Onchocerciasis and Lymphatic filariasis, diseases which blighted the lives of billions of the poor and disadvantaged throughout the tropics, is why its discoverers were awarded the Nobel Prize in Medicine in 2015 and the reason for its inclusion on the WHO’s “List of Essential Medicines.” Further, it has also been used to successfully overcome several other human diseases and new uses for it are continually being found (Crump and Omura, 2011).
NOTICE THE BIT ABOVE ABOUT “SAFE” AND “WELL TOLERATED” and compare to what they wrote recently in their statement in February 2021.
https://www.merck.com/news/merck-statement-on-ivermectin-use-during-the-covid-19-pandemic/
Are they gas-lighting us with the third bullet-point at the top of the page?-
“A Concerning Lack of Safety Data in the Majority of Studies”
Invermectin has been side-lined.
And yet the ‘Follow The Science’ people assert that a brief and very limited trial is enough to say that injecting millions of children with he novel ‘vaccines’ will be safe.
No, it looks like it’s just on the verge of popular awareness. In the most recent interview on Dr. Mobeen’s YT channel with Dr. Pierre Kory, they show a graph of Ivermectin prescription growth in the USA. It’s going parabolic since November. Hospitals and long-term care facilities are making it standard of care. This is a real thing. Somebody BIG is driving it for some reason methinks, but it could be a natural evolution based on all of the Random Controlled Studies and the meta-analysis on those reaching the right eyes finally as well. Either way, people are survival-oriented and Ivermectin is a great complement to vaccine therapy, if not something that will eventually obliterate the whole field of virology; not just by itself, but with other supplementation and drug therapies including intravenous Vit C, perhaps ozone-therapies, nutritional substances, etc. There’s a retinoic acid part to this equation, but it’s going to take some time to figure it out.
White House Enlists Governors To Help Boost “Public Confidence” In JNJ Jab
Despite releasing trial results from Pfizer on an almost daily basis this week, the federal government is still worried about public confidence in Biden’s vaccine effort (even after the president made a spectacle out of doubling his target for doses distributed during his first 100 days). And as skepticism about the efficacy of the JNJ jab, which only requires one dose instead of the two required for Moderna and Pfizer, persists, the Hill reports that the White House has enlisted the help of Democratic governors to “boost confidence” in the jab.
Several governors have purposely taken the JNJ jab in recent weeks to try and show the vaccine is safe at the behest of the White House. A few weeks ago, Biden held a call with top communications staff from a bevy of governors, including Tim Walz from Minnesota and JB Pritzker from Illinois.
Now, the government is once again in damage-control mode after reports that 15MM doses were ruined during a manufacturing snafu, the latest public issue related to the jab.
When approached by the Hill, the governors’ denied that they took their marching orders from the president.
Not every governor opted for the Johnson & Johnson shot because of the White House ask, but some said it influenced their choice”
“Governor Northam’s decision to get the Johnson & Johnson vaccine two weeks ago was intended to increase public confidence in that particular vaccine,” said Marissa Astor, a spokesperson for Northam. “He felt it was important to demonstrate that there are three safe and effective vaccines available, including Johnson & Johnson.”
A spokesperson for Walz stressed that the governor wants to assure Minnesotans that “the best vaccine is the one you’re offered.”
Walz’s decision to get the Johnson & Johnson shot was intentional, the spokesperson said, but it was made before White House officials specifically encouraged governors to get that vaccine.
Stitt, who got the vaccine this week, got the Johnson & Johnson shot because the state health department had it available, an official with his office said. Oklahoma is among the top 10 states for vaccines administered, the official noted, and Stitt wanted to publicly encourage residents to get their shot.
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/white-house-enlists-governors-help-promote-public-confidence-jnj-jab
How much money did J&J given to Hunter Biden the bagman?
Serbia cracks down on anti-vaccination activists
BELGRADE, Serbia — Serbian police brought in a well-known Serbian doctor and other vocal anti-vaccination activists for questioning Thursday, saying they are jeopardizing the Balkan country’s successful coronavirus inoculation drive.
Serbian state TV said psychiatrist Jovana Stojkovic, a leading figure in the country’s anti-vaccination movement, was taken to a police station in Belgrade on accusations that she has been spreading “fear and panic” with her social media posts and public appearances.
Stojkovic, who leads a small far-right party, has frequently voiced anti-vaccination conspiracy theories.
At least five other people, including a former Serbian women’s basketball player, were reportedly questioned by police on Thursday in an apparent crackdown against Serbia’s growing anti-vaccination movement.
Serbian Justice Minister Maja Popovic said the Interior Ministry and state prosecutors were acting according to the law.
“All the perpetrators of criminal acts must be processed, especially when they threaten public health,” the statement said.
Dozens of supporters greeted Stojkovic as she was released by police in the afternoon, carrying a banner reading “Stop the COVID fascism.”
Stojkovic said she was arraigned because she shared articles about the vaccines, adding that her added comments were “based on scientific research and what doctors are saying.”
https://www.startribune.com/serbia-cracks-down-on-anti-vaccination-activists/600041115/
It just occurred to me … Sunday is a special day… HE will deliver us from evil!!!
Shall we count it down? Since HE appears first in NZ I’ll update you at midnight tomorrow.
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ONTARIO EMPLOYMENT STANDARDS ACT SAYS YOU CAN NOW BE LAID OFF WITHOUT PAY FOR NOT BEING VACCINATED
FROM 3:30
https://www.bitchute.com/video/jqW9wGafqf3n/
Russian health minister says revaccination against COVID-19 to be needed in future
MOSCOW, March 31. /TASS/. People vaccinated against coronavirus will require revaccinations in the future, Russian Health Minister Mikhail Murashko said on Rossiya-1 television channel on Wednesday.
“We expect that revaccinations will most likely be needed. Everything will depend on the herd immunity rates both inside the country and beyond, as activity always recovers,” the minister said.
According to Murashko, a health surveillance system has been established.
“We have an electronic resource where this data is collected. Therefore, we assess how an individual responds and how protected they are. If necessary, we can safely introduce corrections now,” he added.
Apart from that, Murashko said that the Sputnik Light vaccine was undergoing a registration process.
“It has just arrived at an expert agency of the Health Ministry for testing. It is part of Sputnik V. It is the first dose. Young people develop a good response, well, perhaps the experts should give their opinion, it will be used for revaccination,” the health minister informed.
https://tass.com/russia/1272845
They’ll keep on doing this till they get the intended result >>> Devil Covid >>> Extinction.
Compassionate extinction, we are doing it for Grandma.
“Russian health minister says revaccination against COVID-19 to be needed in future”
of course.
once again, we have been discussing this since early 2020.
viruses mutate.
I think it’s common knowledge that many first world countries offer ANNUAL flu shots.
as many persons here have said, covid is similar to influenza.
again it’s sort of “predicting the past” to predict that covid vaccines will have to be annual or even semiannual.
Elon Musk: Robots will be taking your jobs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKG1jmpJwZw
He lays it all out – robots will do everything and we’ll just be accepting handouts to get by. But he never says the real story: They are not going to bother with handouts long term, which is why the vax is designed to cull the herd. They don’t want to deal with us, they want robots for THEM, doing the work, and we go in the trash. That’s the future if they get their way,.
“… the vax is designed to cull the herd. They don’t want to deal with us, they want robots for THEM, doing the work, and we go in the trash. That’s the future if they get their way.”
sparkling giant C theeeory gold.
If you wanna keep eatin’, better make yourself useful.
I now have entered the stage of life known as The Useless Eater.
No big deal.
to reiterate, I am firmly welded to QBAU in declining IC, no prepping just some attempts at keeping ahead of any out of stock situations on essentials such as TP and dark chocolate.
will I regret my reliance on QBAU?
possibly for a mere blip of time, until I am swallowed up by the nothingness of eternal death.
as philosophers have said, a person should not overrate the mere handful of decades of life between the 13.7 billion year past and the eternal future.
but for now, OFW is wavering fun.
Ontario imposes provincewide ’emergency brake’ as 3rd wave of COVID-19 hits hard
New measures to take effect Saturday at 12:01 a.m.
The Ontario government is imposing a provincewide “emergency brake” starting Saturday, but stopped short of a stay-at-home order, despite modelling showing such a measure could significantly curb the surge in COVID-19 case numbers and hospitalizations.
The measure comes into effect as of 12:01 a.m. on Saturday, the province said in a news release, and will be in place for at least four weeks.
“We are facing a serious situation and drastic measures are required to contain the rapid spread of the virus, especially the new variants of concern,” Premier Doug Ford said in a statement.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/covid-19-ontario-shutdown-hospital-intensive-care-icu-patients-1.5969831
Come on people — get the vax and you can ‘return to normal’ like the Israelis…
Not hard to imagine the conversations happening in Ontario — Israel is the beacon of hope… let’s get everyone including the kids vaxxed… and those passports out … and this nightmare will end…
Ironically… the vaccines will be the catalyst for the Nightmare Scenario … you know … the one where the giddy delight at being able to go to a Maple Leaf game … followed by people dying by the millions because they f678ed themselves with the lethal injection.
Animals are so trusting of their masters hahaha… even the ‘smart’ ones… are falling for this!
https://media.tenor.com/images/fca1069c7c0bce7b981e3d8066558d6b/tenor.gif
Ongoing, routine injections appears to be the endgame. Will they be annual? Semiannual? Quarterly?
Earlier this year, I attended a virtual presentation given by Melissa J. Moore. CSO, Platform Research, Moderna, Inc. She mentioned that they’re working on a COVID-19 mRNA vaccine that is combined with an annual flu vaccine. Patients could receive both treatments at the same time during a single injection.
From “What is a Green Pass?”:
“Who is eligible for a Green Pass, and what is the limitation of the Pass?
“The Green Pass is personal, and is given to any person who is vaccinated for coronavirus, or people who recovered from coronavirus. No others are eligible for the Green Pass at this stage.
“Each group has a different limitation on the Pass:
“Vaccinated individuals: the Pass is valid for six months (similar to the vaccination certificate), effective the week after receiving the second dose for six months
“Recovered coronavirus patients: the Pass is valid until 30.6.2021”
https://corona.health.gov.il/en/directives/green-pass-info/
So, in Israel, vaccine recipients get a six month Green Pass. Once their six months are up, then what? More injections?
For the people who’ve voluntarily agreed to this Faustian bargain there is no turning back. mRNA “vaccine” recipients are part of a massive, global gene therapy experiment, and, in one of many worst case scenarios, they become so compromised that they require routine injections to remain living. I have coworkers who have shared in meetings that they “don’t care what’s in it” and they’ll “take anything.” They’re burned out and desperate to “get back to normal.” They don’t realize that there is no going back to “normal” as they know it.
Here’s a thought experiment: imagine you are a prisoner of war trapped in an internment camp. Daily life is a struggle, nutrition is poor, sleep quality is lacking and stress is high. One day, your captors present you and your fellow prisoners with the option of taking an experimental injection which they say will protect you from a possible viral infection. This viral infection is so dangerous, they say, that it could wipe out the entire prisoner population. In exchange for the injection, willing participants will receive better privileges in the camp, such as access to better quality food, nicer bedding, stress reducing activities such as meditation and listening to music, and acquiring a special pass to allow for strolls outside the grounds of the camp from time to time (escorted, of course).
What would you as an individual prisoner choose to do? If there is to be a collective response, what do you think the entire prison population should do?
Right. It is not clear that the vaccine is good for more than six months. Recovered COVID patients have to start on the vaccine treadmill as well.
Humans thrive on hope. Vax means hope for them, therefore…
That incidentally is why most of us here, I suspect, have failed, after a year of hard efforts, to convince any friend or family member that their dear leaders and “scientific authorities” (an oxymoron of course) are acting as nothing less than corrupt liars and criminals.
In short, most people (doesn’t matter how smart or dumb) can’t simply face harsh facts or views.
I don’t know anyone personally who has changed their mind on the subject of COVID-19 “vaccines.” I think most people know, in their heart of hearts, that the scamdemic is bullshit but without any kind of solid spiritual or moral grounding they’re compelled to respond in a purely materialistic way (i.e. focusing on quantity of life and the privileges they’ll receive from their POW captors). Most of us in the West cannot imagine a life beyond the empty materialism and consumerism we’ve been raised on – it’s all we know.
Meanwhile, the architects of the scamdemic are entirely about the big picture. Ask yourself, how does aspiring global prison warden Bill Gates view the world? Put yourself in his shoes: funding COVID-19 vaccine manufacturers, becoming the largest farmland owner in the US while simultaneously investing in various synthetic meat startups, joining a £3bn bidding war with Blackstone to buy Signature Aviation, the world’s largest private jet services company, while publishing the book “How to Avoid a Climate Disaster,” and so on. Controlling the behavior and choices of billions of people is the goal for the architects of the scamdemic, the people with the big picture in mind.
The scamdemic is ushering in a massive bifurcation of society; a “bio-apartheid,” as I heard one person call it. Thinking more long term, if the two populations (“vaccinated” and “unvaccinated”) are allowed to co-exist in some fashion, how will they compare in 5 years, or 10 years or more? I’m talking about the overall health and fitness of the two populations. What happens to genetic diversity, for example? Will mRNA “vaccine” recipients effectively develop into a monocrop and thus be more susceptible to illness and disease? In such a scenario, this population would have to be segregated from various biological life forms in order to be protected (maybe the end of pet ownership?). They’d also probably need a variety of additional “vaccines” as well. Fragility would be their future.
There is not enough energy to go around. Somehow the population must be split. In some sense, “vaccine/no vaccine” may be as good as any split. Religious beliefs have been used in the past. Race is another way of splitting the population. Language is another.
With a suitable split of the population, energy supplies can be cut off to the “undesired” part of the population. The split doesn’t have to be on one of the traditional bases. If this is the approach used, it makes sense to get the vaccine, just to be in the “preferred” group. It is especially the case if the vaccine doesn’t work very long. My guess is that if it doesn’t work very long, the side effects won’t be very permanent either.
It is not the conclusion I would come to first. In areas of the world where vaccines are readily available, it might be the right conclusion, at least for kids over some reasonable age.
“There is not enough energy to go around. Somehow the population must be split. In some sense, ‘vaccine/no vaccine’ may be as good any split…
If this is the approach used, it makes sense to get the vaccine, just to be in the ‘preferred’ group.”
There is not enough energy to go around in the POW camp. Somehow, the prison population must be split. From the prisoner’s point of view, it makes sense to get the “vaccine,” just to be in the “preferred” group.
What you describe as a “vaccine” isn’t really a vaccine in the above situation, is it?
If a prisoner accepts the possibility of what you’ve outlined (a good analysis), and opts for receiving a COVID-19 “vaccine,” they are not really interested in receiving a genuine vaccine against illness and disease are they? Rather, they are aware that the injection is part of a program to divide the prison population into two groups, with one group receiving more privileges than the other.
Through voluntary injection they are giving their consent to the program. Their captors, the program managers (big picture thinkers), said they would receive special privileges that the other group would not receive. So, by thinking of the small picture, the prisoner will voluntarily assist in the completion of the program. A subsequent POW camp rule might read similar to Orwell’s:
“All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.”
@Gail, let’s start with your hypothesis. The people that decided to split the population now see how easy it is to convince the vaxxers to do anything. So why not keep using them?
They can be the mobs killing the undesirables. They can give up not only freedom but comfort too – after all, they can be easily convinced it’s for their own good.
And finally, why not kill them outright? They are true believers. They will walk willingly into the gas chambers and hate anybody that tries to stop them.
I really hope you are wrong.
They would certainly like to keep the ones that do their bidding, at least to the extent that there are enough goods and services to go around. If not, I suppose that they could engineer a second split, perhaps based on a different criterion such as age and ability to do heavy labor.
Splitting is impossible. The system would crash
It’s all or none. CEP. (you and me)
Ask yourself… did Bill Gates really buy the land… or if he did is he going to turn mega doomsday prepper?
Do you think the plan is to return to the year 1400 — and Bill is going to be King of America complete with an army of serfs?
Might this ‘land thing’ just be another psyop like the Great Reset stuff… aimed at convincing people that vaccinating healthy people including children is not as Mike Yeadon suggests…extermination…
Keep the cattle guessing.. and hopeful.. even as they are being marched into the maw of the ovens… you tell them not to worry … it’s a cinema… and they want to believe that so badly … they will believe it.
We are running out of oil. The gimmicks no longer work. Face the facts.
Did you think the Elders were just going to let us rip faces off and roast babies?
Bill Gates is the tip of one particular spear. He is a front.
“There’s a tendency in the media to personalize this,” O’Keefe says. “People want to know, ’Why does Bill Gates want all this land?’”
“But hyper-wealthy people like Gates don’t make every decision personally, O’Keefe notes. “He has very competent investment managers.”
“Given that Gates is the third-richest person in the world — with an estimated net worth of $132 billion, he falls in behind Tesla founder Elon Musk and Amazon’s Jeff Bezos — those money managers have their hands full.”
“Investment guru Michael Larson, who has worked with Gates since 1994, runs the Washington-based Cascade Investment, as well as supervising the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation’s nearly $50 billion endowment.”
“Larson and his team are famously tight-lipped. Cascade employees almost never speak to the press. According to the Journal, they are even discouraged from using Facebook and other social-media platforms. (Through a spokesperson, the company declined to comment for this article.)”
https://nypost.com/2021/02/27/why-bill-gates-is-now-the-us-biggest-farmland-owner/
The big picture is bigger than Gates being King of America. The Great Reset and UN Agenda 2030 Sustainable Development Goals
indicate as much.
“We are running out of oil. The gimmicks no longer work. Face the facts.”
Oh, I think some gimmicks are working perfectly. The scamdemic and “vaccine” rollout allow the prisoners to save face and virtue signal while they submit to coercion, declining standards of living, reduced privacy, reduced mobility, and more.
In time, we’ll see whether these “vaccines” have contributed to extermination and/or sterilization as well – additional methods of reducing energy demand.
The gimmicks stopped working last year:
“The global economy was facing the worst collapse since the second world war as coronavirus began to strike in March, well before the height of the crisis, according to the latest Brookings-FT tracking index. “The index comes as the IMF prepares to hold virtual spring meetings this week, when it will release forecasts showing the deepest contraction for the global economy since the 1930s great depression.
https://www.ft.com/content/9ac5eb8e-4167-4a54-9b39-dab48c29ac6c
Thanks for this link. This is exactly what I was saying in December 2019, when I gave a talk to a group of casualty actuaries in Hawaii. It was called Recession Ahead: An Overview of Our Predicament
There were a lot of strange things happening. China’s peak year for private passenger auto sales was 2017, and it has been downhill ever since. India was doing poorly as well. European countries were reporting GDP barely above zero.
The US was doing somewhat better than other countries, so we didn’t notice the situation here. Emerging markets were doing especially badly. The prices of commodities were too low, causing difficulty for countries exporting these commodities.
You read my mind 🙂
“The global economy was facing the worst collapse since the second world war as coronavirus began to strike in March, well before the height of the crisis, according to the latest Brookings-FT tracking index.”
gim·mick
/ˈɡimik/
noun
1. a trick or device intended to attract attention, publicity, or business.
The coronavirus narrative is the new gimmick.
“The pandemic represents a rare but narrow window of opportunity to reflect, reimagine, and reset our world” – Professor Klaus Schwab, Founder and Executive Chairman, World Economic Forum.
Trick?
Go back and look at the grim warnings out of German in 2019… check auto sales…. check the Fed repo window (banks were not trusting counter party banks)… I am sure Gail has plenty of archived articles that demonstrate the global economy was starting to unravel…
The Central Banks were out of ammo.
That article is not a trick… rather it was a hint… the Elders like to do this .. they even gave us a movie about how it all works… now it was metaphorical so most people will not connect the dots.. but the Matrix tells the tale…
That FT article was a hint (as was Perfect Storm also FT) of what the real situation was.
They know 99.999999999999999999999999% of people will not get it … but they just want to send a signal to the mega geniuses… who will get it… to let us know we should be completing our bucket list because the Final Solution is imminent.
Oh, I agree with the argument that the global economy was unravelling, as detailed in the Financial Times article as well as in Gail’s posts. My point is that the coronavirus narrative – the scamdemic – is the gimmick, the trick, the distraction from that very unravelling. It provides the cover and the excuse for the Elders to manage the situation with increasing control. They put the world on lockdown because of the global economic unraveling not because of a virus.
When Boris Johnson says that fully vaccinated people cannot be indoors together it’s an indication that the government is just stalling the population for as long as they possibly can. He can’t tell people the truth: that they cannot resume social and economic activity as they did prior to the start of the scamdemic. So he stalls until the “New Normal,” the new socioeconomic system, is firmly in place. Only then will people be allowed to emerge and remove their face masks (veils) in a symbolic act that represents their marriage to the new system.
Are they intent on turning human beings into the those sterile GMO seeds that self-terminate and cannot be saved for the next season, and only grow with the right mix of chemicals?
Too miserable an existence to contemplate.
Or perhaps our fate will be like that of the genetically modified mosquitoes used in Florida and Texas:
“ GM mosquitoes are mass-produced in a laboratory to carry two types of genes:
A fluorescent marker gene that glows under a special red light. This allows researchers to identify GM mosquitoes from wild mosquitoes.
A self-limiting gene that prevents female mosquito offspring from surviving to adulthood.
GM male mosquito eggs that carry the self-limiting gene are released into an area. Once they have hatched and develop through to the adult stage, they are available to mate with wild females. The genes are passed on to offspring.
The female offspring die before they become adults. As a result, the number of Ae. aegypti mosquitoes in the area decreases.“
https://www.cdc.gov/mosquitoes/mosquito-control/community/sit/genetically-modified-mosquitoes.html
It’s incredible, the lengths that humans go to control nature. Most of the time, we assume the people in charge of civilization wouldn’t dream of applying those control mechanisms to us.
“Come on, genetic engineering is only used in agriculture and lowly insect population control! Or that sheep they cloned, Dolly. We’re talking lower life forms here – plants, insects, animals. We non-elite humans are privileged and untouchable!”
“Ongoing, routine injections appears to be the endgame. Will they be annual? Semiannual? Quarterly?”
flu shots are annual.
where’s the hysteria?
David said: “where’s the hysteria?”
You know that is disingenuous. Nobody ever forced me to take flu shots. I never did (and never had the flu btw).
You really think it’s normal to force gene treatments on perfectly healthy people, especially when we know there is practically no asymptomatic transmission?
Why do we have to repeat these facts over and over – and yet people like you ignore them and go back to slogans?
My guess is that the beliefs you have are not rational and as such all arguments are ignored or simply “forgotten”.
Please enlighten me.
I am hoping to never be coerced into getting that gene therapy, yes it’s not a vaccine.
I’ve also never had a flu shot.
sure, there are some places and situations where some persons are being “required” to take the covid jab.
but until it becomes essentially mandatory to get the jab just to lead a free and normal life, it could be considered hysteria to think that this has already happened everywhere or is certain to happen soon.
I’m being USA centric here.
I’m hoping enough people resist our fascsist libtards who want to impose this on anyone.
I’m all for absolute freedom of choice on this.
I submit that the game plan is now obvious. The face “vaccines” (they contain mRNA and so are themselves infectious) are to destroy our natural immune systems, whereupon the real vaccines will be the only things keeping us alive. Control will be complete.
It sounds like we could out evil the halfwitted muppets easily.
But why bother when smart ass kiddos are much more interesting to watch as they tackle mathematics, software, science and Starcraft.
Plus some good animes occasionally. It is not so infested by useless eater woke crap (yet).
Just let all of it burn. 🔥
About Marek’s disease:
There have been some threads here about the Marek’s disease in chickens. Most of the facts presented there are wrong, or rather they apply only to industrial caged chicken factories.
Most permaculture and natural poultry sources online are against vaccinations. They also recommend against cleaning the coops so the bacteria in the bedding gets a chance to “balance out” and the new born chicks to get the immunity by coming in contact with them.
I agree with that from my limited experience and what I know from people raising backyard chickens in poor countries.
My conclusion is that, in chickens as in people, living outdoor with natural food and fresh air will keep the deaths due to disease to a minimum.
Of course that “minimum” might not be acceptable to people raised in the rich world but I suggest we get used to it, given what the future has in store.
The alternative is caging all humans, vaccinating them continuously and STILL failing sooner or later due to mutations or simply energy collapse.
The ray of hope here is that even in chickens, people have not yet succeeded in destroying the natural immunity. Isn’t that great?
That is a good way of putting the problem:
“The alternative is caging all humans, vaccinating them continuously and STILL failing sooner or later due to mutations or simply energy collapse.”
We will not, in the long run, be able to keep up with the vaccines needed. The predicament cannot end well.
‘The predicament cannot end well.’
Depends on one’s perspective…
For me it couldn’t have a better ending than what is now baked in…
http://www.doomsteaddiner.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/the-apocalypse11.jpg
I have had chickens for half a dozen years, always on the loose in the yard, and none have ever been sick. The ones that died were killed by foxes. Virus? What’s that?
Thanks JMS!
I could not find the link but I read in one of the books (maybe the one from Joel Salatin) that there was a USDA study in the 70s that showed that chickens survived better if you don’t change the bedding (straw) where the chicks are raised.
I think this is similar to the bacteria that babies get from mothers passing through the birth canal (and the reason some people apply fecal transplant to cesarean babies: https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/fecal-transfer-from-moms-to-babies-after-c-section-trial-results-68012)
The conclusion is always the same: we are surrounded by bacteria and viruses and we depend on them. If we try to kill them we are just weakening ourselves. Why not improve our immune systems instead?
Traditional vaccines can be a part of that, if they are not corrupted by the profit motive.
Same here. Foxes, bobcats, hawks, but not sickness.
Lion killed both of our goats, and the neighbors pig.
All the houses are gone now– fire.
ya but if you dropped a chicken vaccinated against Markeks .. the permie chickens would be dead in 10 days
@Fast Eddy – if that is a possibility, it looks like we (the unvaccinated) will be the one masked, running away from the vaxxers or hiding in our homes.
Wouldn’t that be ironic?
Millions of “vaccinated” people walking around with their ribosomes busy manufacturing spike proteins. What could go wrong?
Rammstein Donne
I will stick out my neck and say that Germany still rules.
https://youtu.be/StZcUAPRRac
Sonne nicht Donne.
Sun not thunder.
The game is up, fatso! If only…
> Alex Salmond’s Alba will fail to send any MSPs to Holyrood, says Survation poll
[Poll] figures translate to a slim majority for the SNP, made dominant through a potential coalition with the [pro-independence] Greens, and no seats going to anyone outside the five main parties.
Conducted from March 29-30, the poll found that just 3% of Scots said they would support Alba on the list.
Curtice said the poll results suggest “it’s all over for Salmond”, but added that he “might just get a seat in the north-east himself”.
https://www.thenational.scot/news/19205661.alex-salmonds-alba-will-fail-send-msps-holyrood-says-survation-poll/
I live in hope that Nicola will end up where she belongs – in jail
Generous, as always!
Paul on the drums.
> Well, the rain exploded with a mighty crash as we fell into the sun
The Salmond is a fascinating fish. After being flushed out into the North Sea, it has to swim back up the Clyde to the highlands, where it impregnates the Sturgeon and then dies of exhaustion.
Classy, do you have a limerick for Johnson? The trouble is that his name is already the punchline.
There was a bald old bloke from Eton
He could hardly see his feet-on.
He was so fat
The chair went splat
And he sat there holding his Johnson
Why in gaol? Are there no lamp posts in Scotland?
Deutschland Uber Alles
https://youtu.be/NeQM1c-XCDc
Gail et al, have you thought about the future of class warfare?
Middle classes are the “fifth column” of the new world order (whatever that is).
I realized that after conversations with people in different countries. All the middle class people, without exception, will admit that things are good for them after the pandemic.
Of course they will first attack anybody that disagree with the official story but, if you keep cool when labeled a russian terrorist or qanon (what is that?) they will just admit it – they are happy without the commute, they are making good money and the stock market is doing well.
Yes these are anecdotal but look at the mainstream media or fecesbook (written by and for middle class),
This is human nature – most people will justify their privileges as part of the natural order of things. I also gotten used to the selfishness – they ignore poor people’s suffering in regular times so what’s new?
What is interesting to me is the blindness to the future. Given the wealth transfer happening, how long before the global middle class (estimated at almost a billion) is cannibalized?
A fifth column is any group of people who undermine a larger group from within, usually in favor of an enemy group or nation.
Right now, you are right, governments of rich countries are trying to bail out the middle class, but I think they are trying to bail out many others as well. They are printing lots of money, in the hope that the system can stick together a little longer.
I am afraid that where this goes next is toward failing financial systems and currencies that are less interchangeable among countries. Governments may come up with new currencies, but they are likely to apply a maximum to the amount of existing currency that can be replaced. Many people who thought they were rich will find out that they have much less in funds available.
As the supplies of goods and services diminishes, it will be increasingly difficult to make the currency go around. I expect that this might be when class warfare will break out. The elderly, who are not really contributing much in the way of new goods and services, will tend to be cut off early on, I expect. Pensions and health care will be cut way back, for example.
Who fights with whom, and who comes out ahead, is not entirely obvious. There will probably be too many people at every level (upper, middle, and lower class), relative to resources. People who can grow (or find) food will be in particular demand, I expect. People who can find a way to cook food will be in demand as well. Men who are very strong physically may be in demand. Women of childbearing age may be in demand as well.
People in cold countries will come out particularly badly, because of the difficulty of providing enough heat and food in winter. Handicapped people will not come out well.
Thanks Gail for the details!
It does sound to me it could be similar to other inflationary periods – for example in Eastern Europe after the collapse of communism.
There were many pressure groups on the govt so they printed a lot of money. There was a lot of inflation and new currencies.
Just like you said, the pensioners were starving because the pensions were increased slowly or not at all while the inflation could reach 1000% per year.
Others affected were govt employees (teachers, bureaucrats etc) and of course the rural poor which could not survive on their small homesteads.
I can see similar things happening in the rich countries where the salaries, house values and the stock market will stay the same while the inflation explodes. For most middle class those are their store of wealth so they could quickly become downwardly mobile.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/03/210331173739.htm
Fast, portable test can diagnose COVID-19 and track variants
The field test, called NIRVANA, can simultaneously detect and sequence SARS-CoV-2, influenza and other viruses
Date: March 31, 2021
Source: Salk Institute
How much would it cost? Can production of the device be scaled up quickly?
I see a critical flaw: it’s probably too reliable. PCR tests can produce false positives at will, so why would they use something else ?
Indeed!
“Unlike PCR, which cycles through lower and higher temperatures to separate DNA strands and copy them, RPA uses proteins — rather than temperature changes — to accomplish the same thing in only 20 minutes. The technology lets researchers copy longer stretches of DNA, and probe for multiple genes at the same time.”
Will they be able to play with proteins the way they’re able to play with PCR cycle thresholds?
Right, technowizardry to the rescue against the virus. However, there exist no technology that can save mankind against itself.
Now that I think about it, the last statement might be wrong.
Now where are those bicycling rapacious primates? Why are we still producing autos and trucks when bicycles and train have been part of IC since almost the get go?
Oh NOOOOOOOO! Now I have to cower in fear of this killer monster. It’s just keeps getting worse and worse. “Oh the Humanity!’
What will I do, what WILL, I do? I know, i’m going to steal Duncan’s vaccine because he doesn’t deserve it. That’s it, i’ve now convinced myself to take the jab. I am now officially a CovIDIOT.
“The Fourth Surge Is Upon Us. This Time, It’s Different”…More dangerous variants are going to be a huge problem around the world’
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/03/fourth-surge-variant-vaccine/618463/?utm_source=pocket-newtab
“Top German scientists have found that wearing certain types of face masks for long periods of time could result in potentially hazardous chemicals and harmful microplastics being inhaled deep into human lungs.”
https://www.ecotextile.com/2021040127603/dyes-chemicals-news/exclusive-chemical-cocktail-found-in-face-masks.html
Interesting article! A couple of excerpts:
The article makes it clear that surgical masks are probably worse than masks made out of ordinary fabrics because they have been specially treated to repel virus in an aerosol droplet format. Also, putting children in masks for long periods is a concern:
‘But as we start to emerge from this global health crisis’
Oh?
Collapse? NO, Business is BOOMING!!!
What’s happening globally is this pandemic has made people spend more time at home, so what people are doing at home is they’re shopping like crazy,” Bernardo said. “There’s a lot of consumer products being purchased, household goods, computers. … Factories in Asia are shipping goods in record numbers to replenish American store shelves and assembly lines. Retailers and manufacturers and e-commerce distributors are all driving the surge.”
Container ships sit idle in the the San Francisco Bay just outside of the Port of Oakland on March 26, 2021, in San Francisco. As the global pandemic has fueled online shopping and international shipping to fulfill orders, demand has fueled log jams at ports around the globe.
The short answer is the factories in China that shuttered amid a pandemic are operating at full speed and Americans are shopping.
The ships are delivering goods to replenish retailers’ supply and catch up with high demand at the Port of Oakland, and in recent weeks, the import volume has increased with vessels waiting in the bay for their turn to unload cargo at the port.
https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/container-ships-San-Francisco-Bay-Port-of-Oakland-16064580.php
We got the time and we got the credit card…PARTY TIME
In Frempnt, CA (“silicon valley”), where I work, making equiptment which makes microchips, things are busy as ever (those vacuum chamber assemblies last about 3 to 10 years, depending on the process used).
Herbie, you are welcome as ever.
NIH (National Institutes of Health) Revises Treatment Guidelines for Ivermectin for the Treatment of COVID-19
Ivermectin is Now a Treatment Option for Health Care Providers!
Jan 14, 2021 – One week after Dr. Paul Marik and Dr. Pierre Kory – founding members of the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC) – along with Dr. Andrew Hill, researcher and consultant to the World Health Organization (WHO), presented their data before the NIH Treatment Guidelines Panel, the NIH has upgraded their recommendation and now considers ivermectin an option for use in COVID-19. Read Less
Their recommendation has now been upgraded to the same level as those for widely used monoclonal antibodies & convalescent plasma, which is a “neither for nor against” recommendation. The significance of this change is that the NIH has decided to no longer recommend against the use of ivermectin in the treatment of COVID-19 by the nation’s health care providers. A consequence of this change is that ivermectin has now been made a clear therapeutic option for patients.
Read our Press Release (Jan 15) and our Detailed response to the panel’s criticism of the existing evidence base (Jan 17).
https://covid19criticalcare.com/
more recent backstory on the Ivermectin affair from Politico
https://www.politico.eu/article/rise-and-fall-of-coronavirus-miracle-cure-ivermectin/
“Further well-designed, randomized studies are needed to draw conclusions as to whether the product is effective and safe in the prevention and treatment of COVID-19,” the EMA added.
Trials such as these are now underway, and Chaccour estimates that in the next three or four months, more concrete data will start to emerge. Indeed, despite the drug’s checkered history, even Chaccour hopes that it could turn out to be the wonder drug it was once promised to be.
“When you have these trolls harassing you, it makes me want to say, ‘I hope it doesn’t work’,” he said with a wry laugh. “But that’s not what I want. I would actually be very happy if this works.”
that Politico article was March 30, 2021 and Chaccour’s last paper was published in February. Excerpt is promising.
Patients in the ivermectin group reported fewer patient-days of any symptoms than those in the placebo group (171 vs 255 patient-days). This difference is mostly driven by two symptoms, anosmia/hyposmia and cough. Patients in the ivermectin group reported 50% less anosmia/hyposmia than those in the placebo group (76 vs 158 patient-days of anosmia/hyposmia). The ivermectin group also reported 30% less cough (68 vs 97 patient-days of cough) (Fig. 3).
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7816625/
So the ivermectin treated group reported less problem with cough and with smell. Those are frequent problems, but they are not the life-threatening problems.
It seems like a person would also like something like “days of hospitalization” or “need for oxygen supplementation” or “admission to intensive care” or “deaths” to be affected. It probably takes bigger studies for that. In countries without many intensive care beds, it is probably hard to measure this variable.
The following paper may simplify things via excess death data and timelines studied.
TITILE: Sharp reductions in COVID-19 case fatalities and excess deaths in Peru in close time conjunction, state-by-state, with ivermectin treatments.
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3765018
“The possibility that varying compliance with social isolation mandates in the different states of Peru could account for varying impacts of the pandemic is discounted by Google community mobility data shown in Figure 2. These data demonstrate that mobility patterns from March through November 2020 in Lima were roughly the same as for the other states, and that excess deaths fell as mobility rose in the 24 states with IVM treatment early in their first waves of the pandemic.”
“For the 24 states with early IVM treatment (and Lima), excess deaths dropped 59% (25%) at +30 days and 75% (25%) at +45 days after day of peak deaths. Case fatalities likewise dropped sharply in all states but Lima, yet six indices of Google-tracked community mobility rose over the same period. For nine states having mass distributions of IVM in a short timeframe through a national program, Mega-Operación Tayta (MOT), excess deaths at +30 days dropped by a population-weighted mean of 74%, each drop beginning within 11 day after MOT start.”
“Extraneous causes of mortality reductions were ruled out. These sharp major reductions in COVID-19 mortality following IVM treatment thus occurred in each of Peru’s states, with such especially sharp reductions in close time conjunction with IVM treatments in each of the nine states of operation MOT. Its safety well established even at high doses, IVM is a compelling option for immediate, large scale national deployments as an interim measure and complement to pandemic control through vaccinations.”
How does the treatment in Peru, differ from the treatment in countries that have been having difficulty using Ivermectin? Higher doses? Mixed with other treatments, such as vitamin D or zink? I wish I had an understanding of what was working.
If that warning is legit that IVM application could be likely hard on your liver, it follows that you should load up on D / zinc-selenium/.. massively beforehand and during the procedure.
There are also various anti viral (strong concentration) herbal remedies (on different chem footprint) to IVM, so perhaps that could be an avenue for liver compromised patients or regions where IVM is “banned”..
this is looking like quite a small war with different ‘fronts’. Here’s a South Africa correction as of two days ago. https://www.sahpra.org.za/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/MEDIA-RELEASE-Ivermectin-not-permitted-for-the-treatment-of-COVID-19-29March2021.pdf
And here’s a large panel of doctors and scientists wrestling with the difficulties they’re facing in hospital settings re: using Ivermectin with patients, even under Compassionate Care guidelines.
There’s an underappreciated side effect of all the disruptions across global supply chains: the cost of producing and distributing everything from furniture and foam to cars and machinery is rising…
“Take electric car batteries. Chemicals like lithium carbonate and lithium hydroxide are up by as much 60%. That’s likely to push up prices for batteries… which was the expectation as the market for EVs grew.
“…building consumer momentum around green cars will take a hit too: If nickel prices hit a historic high of $50,000 per ton, that could add $1,250 to $1,500 per electric vehicle.”
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-03-31/prices-are-going-up-across-supply-chains-will-inflation-come-for-you-too
“Automakers cannot afford to abandon the just-in-time system’s down-to-the-penny cost consciousness in a business where profit margins are often less than 10 cents on a dollar of revenue…
“”Unexpected events like the pandemic and chip shortage are just a sign of the times, said Steven Merkt, president of transportation solutions at TE Connectivity, which makes sensors, connectors and electrical components for automakers.
““This isn’t a series of black-swan events,” Merkt said. “This is a precursor of what life is going to be like.”
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-autos-semiconductors-supply-chain/auto-industry-rethinks-cost-cutting-playbook-as-covid-19-chip-shortages-disrupt-supply-chains-idUSKBN2BO4ZW
I am afraid we will be living in a world with a lot of empty shelves. It will be a world of intermittent supply chains––something we are not used to.
What is even more troublesome is that usually such spiky on/off production means lower end product quality..
I haven’t edited that extract from Bloomberg very sensibly. Middle para should read:
“That’s likely to push up prices for batteries or at least make it much harder to bring them down, which was the expectation as the market for EVs grew.”
and not to mention difficulties created by off-schedule projects like GM’s Lordstown Battery Factory in Ohio, a joint project with LG-Chem that’s driving people nuts. So nuts, that GM may fast-track something here in Michigan that produces one-tenth of what’s planned for the Lordstown factory. Guess LG-Chem has a different manner of building things than GM is used to.
So GM decided to build electric cars without knowing where the batteries would come from. Isn’t wokeness wonderful?
The issue is partly diminishing returns with respect to the minerals needed to make electric cars, including their batteries. Thus, extraction of these materials is from lower grade ore, or deeper mines, or requires special steps for treatment.
There is also the issue that oil and other energy products are used in the extraction of these minerals. If oil prices rise, then the cost of the oil and other energy products used in mineral extraction would rise as well.
Take a look at this chart https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2021/03/31/lithium-battery-costs-have-fallen-by-98-in-three-decades?utm_campaign=the-economist-today&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_source=salesforce-marketing-cloud&utm_term=2021-03-31&utm_content=article-link-4&etear=nl_today_4
At some point, the reduction in cost turns around and rises, unfortunately. This seems to be happening now with respect to lithium batteries, if we believe the article above by Harry McGibbs.
I think perhaps what will happen is that manufacturers will increasingly substitute away from lithium batteries. Someone (probably Harry) posted an article about China moving to batteries that included iron, if I remember correctly.
There are several kinds of “lithium” batteries, in terms of chemistry involved they don’t even have to include Cobalt and Nickel. For example TSLA production is forking to adapt for specific markets: performance luxury vs econobox carz vs trucks, i.e. each using different chemistry. Lately they seemed to be moving onto copper a lot. The same applies more or less for other manufs..
That Chinese “lithium iron” is mature tech by now (~20yrs) but more of a storage energy thing, although for lower spec segment it’s possible to use in EVs dependably as well..
You see, it’s all about applied human desires, behavioral patterns after-all, you can easily wreck an ICE automobile when driving always north of ~3500rpm, while snail pace drivers keeping it down to ~2000rpm could enjoy the same engine trouble free for decades. This rhymes with the battery usage as well, fast accel retards (and bad manuf design) just tend to cripple the longevity for the batteries there..
3.5k? I liked to get my fireblade to sing in excess of 9krpm. Short stroke engines doesn’t care that much about revs, it’s all about reducing acceleration/lateral forces of the pistons.
(When there is some inertia (revs) in the system, drifting becomes controllable because the dynamics of throttle actuation/torque/hp output feels inertial/dampened and in its linear region. Specially when fooling about in the rain on slicks.)
Longevity of any system depends on slowly approaching nominal operation. I.e. no savagery on cold and hot engines. Proper warmup and cool down sequences. Ideally with a fast idle to get that oil pressure up.
Of course the proper servicing on the pedantic side. My buddy used old oil from his motorcycles and puts that into his car. Oil change before just before the oil turns dark.
With chemistries, semiconductors and electric motors, it is of course somewhat different. Ideally the charging cycles should be limited and batteries never fully topped/drained out.
Addendum, although if not more important issue for longevity than over discharge (temp,..) is proper charging and state of charge “happy” envelope, meaning the goal is to be sitting for as much as 24/365 mostly in ~25-75% SoC zone..
That’s why some people still have 20+ yrs old early gen lithium powered electronics in working order.
Different and ~inconvenient rules at first to legacy fueled engines..
ya so now you can buy half a new car for the cost of a battery vs just a fender
why are you even bothering with this when you have such a short time to live before Devil Covid arrives and kills you?
If universal and wide reaching fast depop is the future then you are mostly correct.. But if not, you have to rework these assumptions.. according to future zones / blocks / denied energy avail. / consumption patterns..
Right, for sure BAU can continue for some time at the face of relentless automation/robotics/AI, and by simply just giving up on the idea of having a corrupt and cruel world guvmint handing out rationing stamps while they themselves drive Tesla’s, shag luxury prostitutes/children while high on coke. (The Calhoun/CCP dystopia scenario).
Let that BS burn in the hellfires of irrelevance. Give up on the moronic idea of “saving” the fucking world. 3’rd world immigration and various “aid” (bribes) and warring (theft) that only exacerbate the problems.
The shitty ass “intelligence” community should for the most part be ashamed of themselves. The errand boys of dimwits high on their own suck. Not cool. 🤢🤮
According to that chart Lithium batteries will cost $0 in the future. I look forward to free batteries. I suppose the miners, using ever scarce diesel fuel, and equipment made with FF, will just move to feudal labor, helping them to flatten the Lithium battery cost curve to $0.
Get a brain Sven.
Sven’s up there in lapland dreaming of a Utopian world filled with EVs and solar panels…
Completely oblivious to the fact that 8B people are being forced to take a Lethal Injection.
You are in for a massive surprise Sven… hahaha…
Instead of wasting time about an impossible utopia… why don’t you go fishing… or shoot a reindeer?
I have found that it is almost impossible to change a person’s mind on an issue – even if they are faced with irrefutable evidence… facts … logic… they will not change. I will.
So Sven will continue to pursue his Utopia… right to the bitter end
Gail, the figures must exist, but I can’t find them:
(a) how much oil is burned to make one electric car battery and keep it charged over its lifetime?
(b) how much oil would a petrol car burn in its lifetime?
(c) how much oil is burned in deploying and upkeeping fast e-rail network adapted with hop on/off e-bicycle last mile functionality..
Damn right, my eMTB battery weigh in at about 5kg’s.
Assume a ratio of 1:10 between finished product and oil input.
23kg (of eMTB) times 10 -> 230kg of oil (say 3 barrels). Now let’s compare that with the 100 million barrels per DAY of total oil production.
Now let’s do some elementary mathematics.
100.000.000
—————- ~ 33.000.000 eBikes per DAY.
3
33.000.000 x 365 ~ 1.000.000.000 per YEAR
Now that’s fucking plenty of bicycles in just one year. About a billion of them to be exact. Naturally cannot all oil be used in bike production, but just to give some perspectives.
Yeah, right, we absolutely need to continue the folly because some lazy ass self entitled rapacious primate prima donnas want to feel “special” and “important”.
How about no?
The UK govt have two job ads for ‘Head of Communications’.
The summary says:
“You will [..] support the expansion of asymptomatic testing, that normalises testing as part of everyday life.”
https://twitter.com/LutherBurgsvik/status/1377388754495623171
I see the wages are 750 pounds per day. This is a temporary “marketing” position.
I feel a crescendo of doom building
Fantastic… I just send in my CV with this message… I probably didn’t have to include the 1000IQ part because they would realize that when saw that I have connected the dots…
I would like to apply for the job of convincing the CovIDIOTS that the vaccine is NOT a lethal injection meant to kill 8 Billion people because we have peaked on oil in 2019 and the global economy was about to collapse causing mass starvation and epic violence.
I firmly believe in this mission to put them down and keep suffering to a bare minimum. I am both compassionate and realistic so I will not waver from the plan.
I have a great deal of experience in making circles out of squares (details on my CV) so am perfectly suited for this role.
I am incredibly creative in foisting lies upon people to convince them up is down and down is up particularly when there is a good caused involved.
I also have an IQ of over 1000… and PHDs in 37 disciplines .. so I can do this job and many more. I have no weaknesses – only strength. Immense strength and true genius.
I look forward to the job offer.
PS – Please don’t forget the dedicated private jet.
In most countries they jabbed (on high priority) all the first responders (police, fire, ambulance, ..). That means either it has not been about depop scenario at all, or these had been issued a placebo, or the plan is to depop and re-staff these positions with some (private) army personnel along the way in the future etc..
I’m not sure we have enough data at hand to crack it today, besides count von Schwabulian wrote about ~2027 threshold or something if I recall it correctly, again that doesn’t rhyme with fast depop option (at least for top IC hubs).
If you know which vaxx coding sequences goes to whom, then it is possible to tailor make some strain which responds to X, Y and Z types of vaxx, but not the combination of A, Z. 🤣👍
Similar to designer drugs with some minor change in the molecules, in this case, spike protein.
Therefore the vaxxing hodgepodge. So that the culling can be permutated and pinpointed ad infinitum.
Yup, I got more sinister theories cooking. Wanna hear? How about proving that point which seemed to have been canceled? Ah, the whiff of cigarette smoke.
Not in the UK. I remember reading an article that any police or prison officers turning up at vaccination centres in the UK were being turned away. Strangely enough, this article has now disappeared. Makes one wonder.
Italy Pushes Back as Health Care Workers Shun Covid Vaccines
Prime Minister Mario Draghi issued a decree requiring that workers in health care facilities be vaccinated, a move that will test the legal limits of his government’s efforts to stem coronavirus outbreaks.
ROME — Giulio Macciò tested negative for the coronavirus and spent weeks receiving treatment for emphysema in a sealed-off hospital under the care of doctors and lung specialists — and a nurse who had refused to be vaccinated. On March 11, he unexpectedly died. A post-mortem swab found that he had contracted the virus, as had 14 other patients and the unvaccinated nurse who spent her shifts in his midst.
“It makes no sense that a person whose job is to heal the sick gives them Covid and kills them,” said Mr. Macciò’s son, Massimiliano Macciò, who filed a complaint against the San Martino hospital in the northern Italian city of Genoa. He believes that the nurse, one of an estimated 400 who have refused vaccination against Covid-19 at the hospital, infected his father, who died unvaccinated at 79.
As vaccination rollouts build momentum, businesses everywhere are grappling with whether they can require the inoculation of their employees, raising thorny ethical, constitutional and privacy issues around Europe and the United States. But that quandary becomes all the more urgent when the person is your health care worker.
In Italy, the original Western front in the war against Covid, a rash of outbreaks in hospitals where medical workers have chosen not to be inoculated has raised fears that their stance is endangering public health. It has also prompted a forceful response from an Italian government that is struggling to get vaccinations on track.
On Wednesday, Prime Minister Mario Draghi tested the legal limits of his government’s ability to address the problem by issuing a decree requiring that workers in health care facilities be vaccinated. It also allowed hospital employers to suspend without pay any health care workers who refuse to do so.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/31/world/europe/italy-covid-vaccines-health-workers.html
I hope this doesn’t sound harsh, but 79 is about as long as he could expect to live. I’m 63 and if I made it to 70 I would be happy. In good health as far as I know. I think in general the modern industrial world spends way to much money trying to keep 80+ year olds alive. I seem to recall reading that especially in the US, an enormous amount of money is spent in the last few years of life. For what purpose?
>>I think in general the modern industrial world spends way too much money trying to keep 80+ year olds alive
My mother is in her mid-80s and keeps saying exactly this. I agree.
Due to the perverse incentive in the US “healthcare” industry, half of the amount of money is spent in the last 6 months of life – for people that have insurance.
Read doctors’ testimonies – it is torturing the old so the hospitals and the insurance can spend as much as they can before the patient dies.
At the same time there are plenty of children and young people dying (look at the infant mortality rates in US).
That is the reason I think that more people in US are skeptical of the Covid sham – they have good reason not to trust medical establishment.
For the Europeans it is a new experience – being treated like cattle and/or lab rats by their own govts.
Unreasonable expectations. As Martin Butler says, when you are past the age of child-rearing, nature has no use for you. And due to the comforts of IC we are able to live very long lives past “productive age”.
I am not sure that it is true that when you are past the age of child-rearing, nature has no use for you.
This is a link to an NPR story called Living Near Your Grandmother Has Evolutionary Benefits published in February 2019.