Could we be hitting natural gas limits already?

Many countries have assumed that natural gas imports will be available for balancing electricity produced by intermittent wind and solar, whenever they are needed. The high natural gas import prices recently being encountered in Europe, and especially in the UK, appear to be an indication of an underlying problem. Could the world already be hitting natural gas limits?

One reason few people expect a problem with natural gas is because of the immense quantities reported as proven reserves. For all countries combined, these reserves at December 31, 2020 were equal to 48.8 times world natural gas production in 2020. Thus, in theory, the world could continue to produce natural gas at the current rate for almost 50 years, without even trying to find more natural gas resources.

Ratios of natural gas reserves to production vary greatly by country, giving a hint that the indications may be unreliable. High reserves make an exporting country appear to be dependable for many years in the future, whether or not this is true.

Figure 1. Ratio of natural gas reserves at December 31, 2020, to natural gas production for the year 2020, based on trade data of BP’s 2021 Statistical Review of World Energy. Russia+ is the Commonwealth of Independent States. It includes Russia and the countries to the south of Russia that were included in the former Soviet Union.

As I see the issue, these reserves are unlikely to be produced unless world oil prices rise to a level close to double what they are today and stay at such a high level for several years. I say this because the health of the oil and gas industries are closely intertwined. Of the two, oil has historically been the major profit-maker, enabling adequate funds for reinvestment. Prices have been too low for oil producers for about eight years now, cutting back on investment in new fields and export capability. This low-price issue is what seems to be leading to limits to the natural gas supply, as well as a limit to the oil supply.

Figure 2. Inflation adjusted oil prices based on EIA monthly average Brent oil prices, adjusted by the CPI Urban. The chart shows price data through October 2020. The Brent oil price at September 24, 2021 is about $74 per barrel, which is still very low relative to what oil companies require to make adequate reinvestment.

In this post, I will try to explain some of the issues involved. In some ways, a dire situation already seems to be developing.

[1] Taking a superficial world view, natural gas seems to be doing fairly well. It is only when a person starts analyzing some of the pieces that problems start to become clear.

Figure 3. World oil, coal and natural gas supply based on data of BP’s 2021 Statistical Review of World Energy.

Figure 3 shows that natural gas supply has been rising, year after year. There was a brief dip in 2009, at the time of the Great Recession, and a slightly larger dip in 2020, related to COVID-19 restrictions. Overall, production has been growing at a steady rate. Compared to oil and coal, the recent growth pattern of natural gas has been more stable.

The quantity of exports of natural gas tends to be much more variable. Figure 4 compares inter-regional trade for coal and natural gas. Here, I have ignored local trade and only considered trade among fairly large blocks of countries, such as North America, Europe and Russia combined with its close affiliates.

Figure 4. Total inter-regional trade among fairly large groupings of countries (such as Europe and North America) based on trade data provided by BP’s 2021 Statistical Review of World Energy.

If a person looks closely at the growth of natural gas imports in Figure 4, it becomes clear that growth in natural gas is a feast or famine proposition, given to upward spurts, dips and flat periods. It is my understanding that in the early years, natural gas was typically traded under long-term contracts, on a “take or pay” basis. The price was often tied to the oil price. This generous pricing structure allowed natural gas exports to grow rapidly in the 2000 to 2008 period. The Great Recession cut back the need for natural gas imports and also led to downward pressure on the pricing of exports.

After the Great Recession, natural gas import prices tended to fall below oil prices (Figure 5) except in Japan, where stability of supply is very important. Another change was that an increasing share of exported natural gas was sold in the “spot” market. These prices fluctuate depending on changes in supply and demand, making them much more variable.

Figure 5. Comparison of annual average natural gas prices with corresponding Brent oil price, based on information from BP’s 2021 Statistical Review of World Energy. Natural gas prices per million Btus converted to barrel of oil equivalent prices by multiplying by 6.0.

Looking back at Figure 4, natural gas exports were close to flat between 2011 and 2016. Such flat exports, together with falling export prices in the 2013 to 2016 period (Figure 5), would have been a nightmare for oil and gas companies doing long-range planning for oil exports. Exports spurted upward in the 2016 to 2019 period, and then fell back in 2020 (Figure 4). All of the volatility in the growth rate of required new production, combined with uncertainty of the pricing of exports, reduced interest in planning for projects that would increase natural gas export capability.

[2] In 2021, quite a number of countries seem to be ramping up natural gas imports at the same time. This is likely one issue leading to the spiking spot prices in Europe for natural gas.

Now that the economy is recovering from the effects of COVID-19, Europe is trying to ramp up its natural gas imports, probably to a level above the import level in 2019. Figure shows that both China and Other Asia Pacific are also likely to be ramping up their imports, providing a great deal of competition for imports.

Figure 6. Areas with net natural gas imports, based on trade data of BP’s 2021 Statistical Review of World Energy. Other Asia Pacific excludes Japan, China and Australia.

It is no surprise that China’s natural gas imports are rising rapidly. With China’s rapid economic growth, it needs energy resources of whatever kinds it can obtain. Natural gas is cleaner-burning than coal. The CO2 emitted when burning natural gas is lower, as well. (These climate benefits may be partially or fully offset by methane lost in shipping natural gas as liquefied natural gas (LNG), however.)

In Figure 6, the sudden appearance and rapid rise of Other Asia Pacific imports can be explained by the fact that this figure shows the net indications for a combination of natural gas importers (including South Korea, India, and Taiwan) and exporters (including Malaysia and Indonesia). In recent years, natural gas import growth has greatly exceeded export growth. It would not be surprising if this rapid rise continues, since this part of the world is one that has been increasing its manufacturing in recent years.

If anyone had stepped back to analyze the situation in 2019, it would have been clear that, in the near future, natural gas exports would need to be rising extremely rapidly to meet the needs of all of the importers simultaneously. The dip in Europe’s natural gas imports due to COVID-19 restrictions in 2020 temporarily hid the problem. Now that Europe is trying to get back to normal, there doesn’t seem to be enough to go around.

[3] Apart from the United States, it is hard to find a part of the world where natural gas exports are rapidly rising.

Figure 7. Natural gas exports by area, based on trade data of BP’s 2021 Statistical Review of World Energy. Russia+ is the Commonwealth of Independent States. It includes Russia and the countries to the south of Russia that were included in the former Soviet Union.

Russia+ is by far the world’s largest exporter of natural gas. Even with Russia+’s immense exports, its total exports (about 10 exajoules a year, based on Figure 7) still fall short of Europe’s natural gas import needs (at least 12 exajoules a year, based on Figure 6). The dip in Russia+’s natural gas exports in 2020 no doubt reflects the fact that Europe’s imports fell in 2020 (Figure 6). Since these exports were mostly pipeline exports, there was no way that Russia+ could sell the unwanted natural gas elsewhere, lowering its total exports.

At this point, there seems to be little expectation for a major rise in natural gas exports from Russia+ because of a lack of capital to spend on such projects. Russia built the new Nord Stream 2 pipeline, but it doesn’t seem to have a huge amount of new natural gas exports to put into the pipeline. As much as anything, the Nord Stream 2 pipeline seems to be a way of bypassing Ukraine with its exports.

Figure 7 shows that the Middle East’s natural gas exports rose in the period 2000 to 2011, but they have since leveled off. A major use for Middle Eastern natural gas is to produce electricity to support the local economies. Before the Middle East ramped up its natural gas production, much of the electricity was obtained by burning oil. The sales price the Middle East can get for selling its natural gas is far below the price it can get for selling oil, especially when the high cost of shipping the natural gas is considered. Thus, it makes sense for Middle Eastern countries to use the natural gas themselves, saving the oil, since the sale of oil produces more export revenue.

Africa’s natural gas exports have fallen, in part because of depletion of the early natural gas fields in Algeria. In theory, Africa’s natural gas exports could rise to a substantial level, but it is doubtful this will happen quickly because of the large amount of capital required to build LNG export facilities. Furthermore, Africa is badly in need of fuel for itself. Local authorities may decide that if natural gas is available, it should be used for the benefit of the people in the area.

Australia’s natural gas exports have risen mostly as a result of the Gorgon LNG Project off the northwest coast of Australia. This project was expected to be high cost at $37 billion when it was approved in 2009. The actual cost soared to $54 billion, according to a 2017 cost estimate. The high (and uncertain) cost of large LNG projects makes investors cautious regarding new investments in LNG exports. S&P Global by Platts reported in June, 2021, “Australia’s own exports are expected to be relatively stable in the coming years.” This statement was made after saying that a project in Mozambique, Africa, is being cancelled because of stability issues.

The country with the largest increase in natural gas exports in recent years is the United States. The US is not shown separately in Figure 7, but it represents the largest portion of natural gas exported from North America. Prior to 2017, North America was a net importer of natural gas, including LNG from Trinidad and Tobago, Egypt, Algeria and elsewhere.

[4] The United States has a strange reason for wanting to export large quantities of natural gas overseas: Its natural gas prices have been too low for producers for a long time. Natural gas producers hope the exports will raise natural gas prices within the US.

Natural gas prices vary widely around the world because the fuel is expensive to ship and difficult to store. Figure 5 (above) shows that, at least since 2009, US natural gas prices have been unusually low.

The main reason why the price of natural gas dropped around 2009 seems to have been a ramp up in US shale oil production that started about this time. While the main objective of most of the shale drilling was oil, natural gas was a byproduct that came along. Oil producers were willing to almost give the natural gas away, if they could make money on the oil. However, they also had trouble making money on the oil extraction. That seems to be the reason why oil extraction from shale is now being reduced.

Figure 8 shows a chart prepared by the US Energy Administration showing US dry natural gas production, by type: non-shale, Appalachia shale and other shale.

Figure 8. Figure by EIA showing US natural gas production in three categories.

Based on Figure 8, the timing of the ramp up of natural gas from shale seems to correspond with the timing in the drop in natural gas prices. By 2008 (the first year shown on this chart), gas from shale formations had risen to well over 10% of US natural gas production. At this level, it would be expected to have an impact on prices. Adding natural gas to an already well-supplied market would be likely to reduce US natural gas prices because, with natural gas, the situation isn’t “build it, and demand will come.”

People don’t raise the temperature to which they heat their homes, at least not very much, simply because the natural gas price is lower. The use of natural gas as a transport fuel has not caught on because of all of the infrastructure that would be required to enable the transition. The one substitution that has tended to take place is the use of natural gas to replace coal, particularly in electricity generation. This likely means that a major shift back to coal use cannot really be done, although a smaller shift can be done, and, in fact, seems to already be taking place, based on EIA data.

[5] The reason that limits are a concern for natural gas is because the economy is very much more interconnected, and much more dependent on energy, than most people assume.

I think of the economy as being interconnected in much the same way as the many systems within a human being are interconnected. For example, humans have a circulatory system, or perhaps several such circulatory systems, for different fluids; economies have highway systems and road systems, as well as pipeline systems.

Humans require food at regular intervals. They have a digestive system to help them digest this food. The food has to be of the right kinds, not all sweets, for example. The economy needs energy of the right kinds, as well. It has many kinds of devices that use this energy. Intermittent electricity from wind or solar, by itself, doesn’t really work.

Human beings have kinds of alarms that go off to tell if there is something wrong. They feel hungry if they haven’t eaten in a while. They feel thirsty if they need water to drink. They may feel overheated if an infection gives them a fever. An economy has alarms that go off, as well. Prices rise too high for consumers. Or, companies go bankrupt from low market prices for their products. Or, widespread defaults on loans become a problem.

The symptoms we are seeing now with the UK economy relate to a natural gas import system that is showing signs of distress. It is pleasant to think that the central bankers or public officials can fix all problems, but they really cannot, just as we cannot fix all problems with our health.

[6] Inexpensive energy plays an essential role in the economy.

We all know that inexpensive food is far preferable to expensive food in powering our own personal economies. For example, if we need to spend 14 hours producing enough food to live on (either directly by farming, or indirectly by earning wages to buy the food), it is clear that we will not be able to afford much of anything other than food. On the other hand, if we can produce food to live on in 30 minutes a day (directly or indirectly), then we can spend the rest of the day earning money to buy other goods and services. We likely can afford many kinds of goods and services. Thus, a low price for food makes a big difference.

It is the same way with the overall economy. If energy costs are low, the cost of producing food is likely low because the cost of using tractors, fertilizers, weed killers and irrigation is low. From the point of view of any manufacturer using electricity, low price is important in being able to produce goods that are competitive in the global marketplace. From the point of view of a homeowner, a low electricity price is important in order to have enough funds left over after paying the electricity bill to be able to afford other goods and services.

Economists seem to believe that high energy prices can be acceptable, especially if the price of fossil fuels rises because of depletion. This is not true, without adversely affecting how the economy functions. We can understand this problem at our household level; if food prices suddenly rise, the rest of our budget must shrink back.

[7] If energy prices spike, these high prices tend to push the economy into recession.

A key issue with fossil fuels is depletion. The resources that are the least expensive to access and remove tend to be extracted first. In theory, there is a great deal more fossil fuel available, if the price rises high enough. The problem is that there is a balancing act between what the producer needs and what the consumer can afford. If energy prices rise very high, consumers are forced to cut back on their spending, pushing the economy into recession.

High oil prices were a major factor pushing the United States and other major users of oil into the Great Recession of 2007-2009. See my article in Energy, Oil Supply Limits and the Continuing Financial Crisis. In part, high oil prices made debt harder to repay, especially for low income workers with long commutes. It also made countries that used a significant share of oil in their energy mix less competitive in the world market.

The situation being encountered by some natural gas importers is indeed similar. Paying a very high price for imported natural gas is not a very acceptable situation. But not having electricity available or not being able to heat our homes is not very acceptable either.

[8] Conclusion. It is easy to be lulled into complacency by the huge natural gas reserves that seem to be available.

Unfortunately, it is necessary to build all of the infrastructure that is required to extract natural gas resources and deliver them to customers at a price that the customers can truly afford. At the same time, the price needs to be acceptable to the organization building the infrastructure.

Of course, more debt or money created out of thin air doesn’t solve the problem. Resources of many kinds need to be available to build the required infrastructure. At the same time, wages of workers need to be high enough that they can purchase the physical goods they require, including food, clothing, housing and basic transportation.

At this point, the problem with high prices is most noticeable in Europe, with its dependence on natural gas imports. Europe may just be the “canary in the coal mine.” The problem has the potential to spread to other natural gas prices and to other fossil fuel prices, pushing the world economy toward recession.

At a minimum, people planning the use of intermittent electricity from wind or solar should not assume that reasonably priced natural gas will always be available for balancing. One likely area for shortfall will be winter, as well as storing up reserves for winter (the problem affecting Europe now), since winter is when heating needs are the highest and solar resources are the lowest.

About Gail Tverberg

My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
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4,770 Responses to Could we be hitting natural gas limits already?

  1. Student says:

    If I have understood correcly, there is currently a very strange situation, there is the President saying that health care workers need to be vaccinated to prevent transmission of Covid.19, while, at the same time, there is the CDC Director saying that vaccines don’t prevent transmssion of Covid-19.

    https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1446211115738931209

    https://nationalfile.com/cdc-director-rochelle-walensky-admitted-covid-19-vaccines-cannot-prevent-transmission/

    • drb says:

      It does not matter and it might actually help achieve the desired outcome. People have to doublethink and obey, that is all.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        norm dunc mike – CDC says the vaccines dont stop you from getting covid and spreading it… Biden says people must get injected because it stops the spread.

        Someone is lying… who – and why?

        Does it hurt to think about this? What happens when you try — help us understand .. even an average 10 year old would be able to understand this….

        It’s useful to see things from different perspectives but I am struggling with this … what other perspective can their be?

        Do I need to sniff solvents for a few days to kill enough brain cells to be able to see this the way you guys see it?

    • Azure Kingfisher says:

      Indeed. My hope is that this is a sign that the COVID-19 scamdemic narrative is becoming unsustainable.

      • Student says:

        I hope that Azure is right, but reading drb’s comment it made me remind about the famous ‘doublethink’ strategy described in Orwell’s novel: 1984.
        It happens also here.

        https://www.cliffsnotes.com/cliffsnotes/subjects/literature/in-orwells-1984-what-isdoublethink

        • According to Cliff’s Notes:

          In George Orwell’s dystopian classic 1984, doublethink is the act of holding, simultaneously, two opposite, individually exclusive ideas or opinions and believing in both simultaneously and absolutely. Doublethink requires using logic against logic or suspending disbelief in the contradiction.

          The three slogans of the party — “War Is Peace; Freedom Is Slavery; Ignorance Is Strength” — are obvious examples of doublethink. The act of doublethink also occurs in more subtle details throughout the novel.

  2. Harry McGibbs says:

    “The Bank of England has warned that rising inflation could trigger a sell-off in global financial markets, with damaging consequences for the UK economy.

    “Against a backdrop of soaring energy prices and severe shortages of workers and materials, Threadneedle Street said inflationary pressures were rising as the pace of economic recovery from the pandemic slows.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/oct/08/rising-inflation-could-trigger-global-sell-off-that-would-harm-uk-says-bank

    • Harry McGibbs says:

      “There’s a Shade of Evergrande in the U.K. Energy Crisis…

      “Even before energy prices skyrocketed, many suppliers were loss-making and had liabilities far in excess of their few assets.”

      https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-10-07/the-u-k-energy-crisis-of-failing-suppliers-has-a-touch-of-china-evergrande

      • Harry McGibbs says:

        “UK schools told to stock up on tinned food amid fears of shortages…

        “One of the largest canteen suppliers in the UK has written to school catering staff advising them they should stock up on frozen and tinned food to ensure that children are properly fed over the winter.”

        https://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/schools-stock-up-food-shortages-b1934499.html

        • Harry McGibbs says:

          “Toilet paper could end up in short supply once again as manufacturers reduce production amid soaring energy costs.

          “Food packaging and sterile medical packaging also stand to be hit if firms scale down their operations in an effort to stay in business this winter, the boss of the Confederation of Paper Industries has warned.”

          https://inews.co.uk/news/consumer/gas-prices-rising-why-shortage-toilet-paper-uk-1238167

        • “Buy frozen and canned food to have on hand this winter” is hardly a cheery message to be giving out.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            The MSM often hints at what the future will bring … mentally they are prepping us for total collapse …

            If the CEP is correct… they want us hunkering down in fear as Devil Covid rips … the mindset they want is that we need to barricade ourselves in our homes… living as doomsday preppers… if we can survive that then we can emerge for the Great Reset…

            We end up in a self imposed lockdown— eating canned food — with Mareks raging outside the door — waiting for it to end…. supply chains rent asunder… starving to death…. a bit of an ignoble end considering we perceive ourselves as the chosen species…. we’ll go with our dignity in the toilet in a cowardly fashion — so much for the great predator… with our puny bodies .. all engorged with blubber and plucking away at the keys on our devices…. watching and making tiktok videos and squealing in delight … we are hardly lions….

            Who knows… Game of Thrones may have been created for the sole purpose of warning us that Winter is Coming….

        • Minority of One says:

          This is really quite apocalyptic. Time to stock up on tinned food whoever you are. Frozen food only works if you have reliable source of electricity.

      • UK regulation of electricity seems to be incredibly bad.

        To be sure, government-mandated price caps make life tough for energy retailers as they can’t easily adjust tariffs to reflect their costs. For small suppliers that want to fully protect themselves against commodity price swings, such hedging can be prohibitively expensive.

        Yet the foundations of this extraordinary crisis were a lack of financial resiliency, light-touch regulation and unsustainable pricing practices that left the industry unprepared for its Black Swan moment.

    • In some ways, it is amazing the the world economy has gotten along as well as it has. If each country keeps adding more available funds for investment and purchasing goods, somehow the sell off seems to stay away.

  3. Student says:

    Forecasters See No Supply Chain Recovery Before End of Next Year

    https://gcaptain.com/forecasters-see-no-supply-chain-recovery-before-end-of-next-year/

    • Two different forecasters, looking mostly at maritime supply chains but also somewhat at rates available on land supply chains, don’t see any moderating of the current supply chain problems before the end of 2022. They expect high profits for maritime shippers to continue.

      • Hubbs says:

        I don’t get it. Around a yr ago weren’t they scrapping transport ships for recyclable steel? Now in the midst of arguably a “pandemic”, whether by design or as unintended consequence, shipping rates have gone through the roof. Clogged ports are being blamed on labor shortages at the loading/unloading docks, truck drivers refusing to haul, energy shortages, or futures manipulation. What ever happened to the Baltic Index?

        The big picture makes it seem as this is yet another prong in the toad sticker being delivered to the world economy- not to just cripple the ability to grow (fertilizer production being choked off) food and produce essential (replacement ) parts, but also to transport these essential items in an attempt to suddenly shock, starve, and freeze out humanity with as little warning as possible. I get it that complex societies are more prone to unforeseen disruptions, but this smacks of a broad manipulation which makes it difficult to point the finger at any one cause.

        • Bobby says:

          Cover is the mycophenolate treatment of the world economy, works in very similar ways

        • Self-organizing systems operate strangely. If the system is to continue to operate, it needs a lot of redundancy. Profits were short, so redundancy was squeezed out of supply lines. Then demand was cut way back in 2020. All of this disruption was too much for the system to handle.

          Underlying the problem was too much complexity, and too little growth in energy consumption. The system was very brittle. It very little to push it over the edge.

        • Azure Kingfisher says:

          What you’ve pointed out is precisely why I have difficulty accepting the “self-organizing systems” thesis put forward on Our Finite World from time to time.

          Just what is a “self-organizing system?” Does being “self-organized” preclude it from requiring human agency and intervention? A hurricane, for example, a creation of nature, does not require human agency to exist. Is this an example of a “self organizing system?”

          What about an “economy?” Is an “economy” a “self-organizing system?” Just what is an “economy?”

          From Noah Webster’s 1828 American Dictionary of the English Language:

          ECON’OMY, noun [Latin oeconomia; Gr. house, and law, rule.]

          1. Primarily, the management, regulation and government of a family or the concerns of a household.

          2. The management of pecuniary concerns or the expenditure of money. Hence,

          3. A frugal and judicious use of money; that management which expends money to advantage, and incurs no waste; frugality in the necessary expenditure of money. It differs from parsimony, which implies an improper saving of expense. economy includes also a prudent management of all the means by which property is saved or accumulated; a judicious application of time, of labor, and of the instruments of labor.

          4. The disposition or arrangement of any work; as the economy of a poem.

          5. A system of rules, regulations, rites and ceremonies; as the Jewish economy

          6. The regular operation of nature in the generation, nutrition and preservation of animals or plants; as animal economy; vegetable economy

          7. Distribution or due order of things.

          8. Judicious and frugal management of public affairs; as political economy

          9. System of management; general regulation and disposition of the affairs of a state or nation, or of any department of government.

          Outside of example number 6, all other examples of an “economy” are not natural but rather manmade.

          Complex systems can create the impression that they are self-organizing, akin to something in nature, like a hurricane. Problems occur, though, when we fail to hold human actors accountable for their actions and instead throw up our hands and say, “Well, complex systems work in mysterious ways. They’re like the tides, hurricanes, forest fires, etc. Who really knows?”
          Bad actors thrive on complexity because it enables obfuscation and escape from accountability. This situation also applies the rest of us as well, not just Norman’s “they.” Whenever we elevate and deify complex systems like “The Economy,” or institutionalized “Science,” or “Global Finance,” we make the bargain that, in exchange for accepting obfuscation, we will get to make our own escape from accountability.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            Survival of the Fittest is also a self organizing system though… and we are governed by the same dynamics….

            One might argue that we have negative survival of the fittest by allowing defective humans to breed — and we even celebrate their defects by creating an Olympic Games for Defects….

            But to that I would say — investment bankers — lawyers — doctors — and other skilled circus animals.. do not breed with defectives… and they for the most part don’t breed with the barnyard animals… they mostly breed with other circus animals….

            It’s something like this — except different:

            https://youtu.be/oD2pbpibmlg

          • Lidia17 says:

            I would say that “the economy” is made up of transactions of energy and materials. The transactions which occur are those made available by circumstance: means and effective proximity. The molecules in a hurricane are making their energetical transactions based on the other molecules around them.

            Azure Kingfisher, you might have your own issue of deification (reification?) going on, when you insist upon “accountability”. “Accountability” is a concept with limited use within certain social subsets of the subset of human activity, out of all other activities, on earth.

            There are many human forces of nature which will never be “held accountable”. For what do we hold Genghis Khan accountable? For what is [insert name here] accountable? Is being accountable today necessary, or can we hold people accountable after death, as do those tearing down statues of Lincoln and Gandhi? It also raises the question of who or what is going to be doing the tallying up? God? You? Greta Thunberg? Chairman Xi?

            I can only imagine Accountability functioning in a homogenous society with shared values and transparency, to keep things humming along effectively. There are few places on earth like that atm, which is why we see a decline of accountability at every level, from stolen elections and war crimes, down to shoplifting and street-shitting.

            I don’t know that I think the Bad Actors are so much thriving on complexity, as they are taking advantage of its breakdown, maybe along the lines of termites, whose digestive enzymes are going to release the trapped material and energy in the frame of our house (the old legal and social institutions that used to work for us in conditions of energy surplus and high throughput, but now don’t), The diligence required to keep the termites at bay requires more energy than we have available, perhaps.

            ===
            I personally have come to take issue, also, with the distinction between what is “man-made” and what is “natural”… as though man himself were not a part of Nature but standing somewhere else outside of it. I see men and their power games and material transactions to be natural phenomena following natural laws.

            • thank you for an intelligent post Lidia

              i enjoyed reading that

            • Kowalainen says:

              “I see men and their power games and material transactions to be natural phenomena following natural laws.”

              Obviously the Rapacious Primate gotta rapacious.

              Man is like bacteria in an oil filled Petri dish. The only difference is in the scale and application of Unfair Advantage.

              Therefore:

              “Hope is for suckers.”
              — Alan Watts

              And it is what it is.

              🤣👍👍

  4. JMS says:

    For those who delude themselves into believing that the judicial system can be the last bastion against totalitarianism and protect our civil rights, here is the example of the Portuguese judge who publicly opposed the pandemic farce, only to be publicly vilified by the media, and now expelled from the magistrature. No time for heroes.

    https://www.tsf.pt/portugal/sociedade/juiz-negacionista-expulso-pelo-conselho-superior-da-magistratura-14196163.html

    • Everyone must follow the way of thinking that is dictated by all of the governments and most of the news media.

    • Yorchichan says:

      Did this judge have anything to do with the decision that PCR tests are inaccurate and any quarantining of people based on the result of a PDR test is therefore unlawful. What happened in Portugal after that decision? Were PCR tests and quarantining based on a positive PCR test result abandoned?

      • JMS says:

        It wasn’t this judge who ruled in court that the PCR tests were invalid. This judge created a group called Jurists for Truth and released some videos in which he explained that “Since April 30, 2020, we have lived uninterruptedly subject to the most serious restrictions on the rights to freedom and movement, personality rights, access to the law and judicial protection, guarantees of criminal procedure, health, work, freedom to learn, economic freedoms, to name but a few of the fundamental rights at stake. These are no longer exceptions, but a new paradigm of normality that is undeniably being imposed on us.”

        Regarding the judge who spoke about the PCR tests, she was warned by the body that oversees the judges, her ruling was ignored, and the issue was not brought up again.

        • Xabier says:

          They failed, JMS, but honourably so.

          Let’s see how the case against kiddie-jabbing goes here.

          Francis Hoar, the barrister, is eloquent and determined.

          • JMS says:

            Unfortunately, Xabier, what I expect is that they will wash their hands of it, hiding behind the excuse that they are not doctors and therefore have no legitimacy to make pronouncements on vaccines.
            I don’t think this pandemic coup can be stopped by any professional class or order. Not the military nor the jurists, politicians, scientists, doctors, journalists, road sweepers or librarians. The people are completely on their own, for this time there will not even be voices purporting to speak on their behalf. In the present revolution, opposition is totally non-existent, at least in my country, where even the communists are on board (albeit with noticeably less enthusiasm than their socialist, liberal, etc. congeners). iIn other countries popular resistance will be probably greater. In mine, mass hypnosis went perfectly, and in the next year the unvaccinated may find themselves very lucky if they can move freely within a ten kilometre radius (which by the way was more or less the peasent’s range of movement before our motorised era.)

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Odd that every government on the planet is supporting the injections … can’t recall consensus on anything in the history of humans…

              They must be in alignment on something that they are not telling us about…. something that is 100% certain to happen

            • Mike Roberts says:

              Nothing odd about it, FE. If that happens, you can be pretty certain that it’s safe. Andy they are telling you about that.

            • Tim Groves says:

              How can you be pretty certain, Mike?

              Please break it down for those of us with less faith in the good intentions of governments and pharmaceutical conglomerates than you seem to have.

            • I notice that the Pharmaceutical Industry and the Federal Government come out pretty much at the bottom of recent Gallup “Business and Industry Sector Ratings.” The question asked was, “For each of the following business sectors in the United States, please say whether your overall view of it is very positive, somewhat positive, neutral, somewhat negative or very negative.”

              https://news.gallup.com/poll/12748/business-industry-sector-ratings.aspx

              The total negative rating (“somewhat negative” or “very negative” total) was 54% for Federal Government and 51% for the pharmaceutical industry. The next lowest was oil and gas industry at 48%. Farming, restaurant industry and grocery industry all were rated very positively.

            • Mike Roberts says:

              Tim Groves wrote:

              How can you be pretty certain, Mike?

              Please break it down for those of us with less faith in the good intentions of governments and pharmaceutical conglomerates than you seem to have.

              I don’t have great faith in the good intentions of governments and drug companies. I’ve no idea why you would think that. However, if governments usually at loggerheads with each other and with highly varied ideas on how to run their societies all act as though the vaccines are safe (because they are actively trying to get as many of their citizens immunised as possible) then they and their health organisations (numbering in the hundreds, no doubt) then there is a very strong likelihood (pretty certain) that the vaccines are safe (within acceptable limits for a society).

              The fact that the Pfizer boss has had the Pfizer jab perhaps puts the icing on the safety cake.

              What would your take be?

            • Fast Eddy says:

              The fact that the Pfizer boss has had the Pfizer jab perhaps puts the icing on the safety cake.

              Hahahahahahahahaha…. hahahahahahaha…. who told you that?

      • Ed says:

        The test I took to return to the US from Portugal was the PCR test with swab to the vary back of the nose.

    • Hubbs says:

      I learned long ago 1991 that there is no rule of law, whether in divorce court in a small town like Elizabethown KY, before a State Medical Board in KY or NC, or trying to sue your lawyers for egregious legal malpractice which was immediately acknowledged by the special appointed judge who then “clarified” his opinion on a motion by the four defendant lawyers from “concludes these attorneys were negligent” /sic to “assumes for the purposes of discussion these attorneys were negligent.”/sic which opened the escape door Blatant abuse of summary judgment. This abuse of judgment to block introduction of inculpatory evidence had even been addressed in KY State Supreme Court in a landmark case Steelvest v Scansteel, KY Supreme Court, 1991 and through Civil Rules 56(c) . All meaningless.

      Any grievance to the KY Bar Association or Judicial Retirement and Removal Committee or the NC Judicial Standards Review will be buried. Your evidence, no matter how material, will never see the light of day. You have to understand that the legal-judicial system is a collective, like a government or banking system. The most important factor is preserving the system. The court clerks, the lawyers, and the Judicial Standards Committees will limit any damaging exposure to the corruption and insider goings-on from the public. The Judges are usually protected by the lawyers, the clerks, and these review Committees. There is an operative level of lying, stealing, and incompetence that is allowed to exist. Whether you the average citizen gets justice through this system is purely SECONDARY. What matters is that legal judicial collective is preserved. As you can see, this goes all the way up to the SCOTUS, and the censorship is by the corporate media is far reaching.

    • Xabier says:

      Belief in the judiciary as our saviours is as naive as those who thought ‘the military’ were going to intervene and save Trump and the US from the election-riggers.

      When did a judge ever hinder the plans of a Hitler, Lenin, Mussolini, Castro or Mao when establishing their revolutions?

      This is the ‘4th Industrial Revolution’, re-setting everything (they hope) : the youth of Europe, who always claim to want ‘a revolution’ in surveys, are going to get it – but top-down, from the bankers, billionaires and spooks…..

      • Azure Kingfisher says:

        “When did a judge ever hinder the plans of a Hitler, Lenin, Mussolini, Castro or Mao when establishing their revolutions?”

        Good point.

      • The consulting firm I worked for provided expert witness testimony in a trial in Florida, regarding whether an excess profits law discriminated against insurers that wrote only a small amount of automobile insurance premium in the state. This seems be a link to the current version of the law.
        https://law.justia.com/codes/florida/2013/title-xxxvii/chapter-627/part-i/section-627.066/

        A profit formula was written into the law that subtracted the amount related to Florida claims in a three year period to the amount collected in Florida premiums in the same period, and then refunded the amount that was in excess of a certain percentage of premium, say 20%. (Actually, it was a little more complicated, but the effect was similar.)

        We argued that the law discriminated against insurers writing only a small amount of auto insurance in Florida because of the greater variability of their results in any given three year period.

        We lost the case. The ruling was that it didn’t matter whether the law discriminated against insurers that wrote only a small amount of private passenger auto insurance in Florida. Since this was a law the legislature had passed and the governor had signed, it needed to be enforced as written.

      • JMS says:

        Judges have always been one of the pillars of any power structure, and if people are naïve enough to believe in liberation by the judiciary (or in its “independence”), it’s only because they’ve been led to believe that propagandists are serious when they proclaim the existence of things like “rule of law”, “individual rights”, etc.
        There’s this little difference though between Adolf Hitman’s or Castro’s judges and those operating in a 21st century representative democracy: the rights that the Germans of 1933 or the Cubans of 1958 thought they had were much smaller and less ingrained in the consciousness of the masses than is the case today. So it will be curious to see how the masses and literate herd will react when they finally realize that their dear civil rights have been revoked forever (hope my schadenfreude doesn’t show too much here)

    • Trixie says:

      psst…..as to creeping totalitarianism, I heard this site is rife with glowies – paid Federal informants (many PhDs) on assignment hired to draw out the “extremist element” in the native population – Magatards and other assorted riffraff. It’s a big dragnet. Sort of like FAST and Furious but different. More psychological. Sexual Kompromat is prized. Norm are you reading this? Your blowup doll may be wired with a listening device. Anyhoo it’s called Operation TEOTWAWKI. I know. I know. It’s terrible. You can’t make this shit up. Couldn’t they have come up with something more original?

      Bottom line for Foggy Bottom is the question of what are you going to do with all those listless unoccupied security contractors? Leave em sitting on their duffs in DC now that ISIS is a dry shit stain on an old worn out carpet? No – you find work for them that’s what you do. Keep em occupied. There is gold to be mined. Minds to be warped.

      So keep all this in mind as you read some of the more incendiary comments on this blog lest you find yourself hauled before The Star Chamber.

      Ps I am not a government shill. I am a perfectly harmless housewife who only wants to understand the happening world when the straw starts pulling up empty. No animals were harmed in the making of this warning.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Hmmm… and I was hoping they were monitoring for the purpose of identifying the non-MOREONS and using us for breeding stock in this Brave New World they had planned….

      • JMS says:

        I find it hard to believe that our reseters find useful to waste time on isolated, silenced, disarmed analysts and intellectuals. The time of the Zolas belongs to the past, when the PTB still feared the infectious power of the word.
        But when you control all the channels of communication and therefore have 98% of the population on your side, totally won over to the cause, as is the case in many countries now, the remaining 2% pose no threat, and if they are sent to a lager it will only be for fun, never out of political necessity.

        In countries though where a substantial minority of the population has resisted collective hypnosis, I believe, like you, that security contractors will have worked guaranteed for some time.

      • Minority of One says:

        pssst. What the hell hell are you writing about?

        I don’t have a PhD, but I am definitely riffraff, have been for a long time, it goes down well with my teenage daughter, who to my surprise gives two fingers to the vaxx.

        Do you perchance mean government paid ‘shrill’?

  5. CTG says:

    I might have missed out if someone has posted it.

    Leaked Emails Reveal Pfizer Execs Sought To Conceal Use Of Aborted Fetal Cells In Covid-19 Vaccine Program

    By Project Veritas :

  6. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Warsaw’s long-running confrontation with Brussels escalated dramatically on Thursday when Poland’s Constitutional Tribunal ruled that the country’s constitution takes precedence over some EU laws…

    “The European Commission reacted swiftly, warning that the ruling raised “serious concerns.””

    https://www.politico.eu/article/poland-european-union-constitution-justice-treaties/

    • Harry McGibbs says:

      “Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban on Friday blamed European Union action to combat climate change for a surge in energy prices, and said that Poland and Hungary would present a united front on this issue at the next EU summit.

      “The jump in energy prices has inflamed tensions between European Union countries over their green transition policies.”

      https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/hungarys-pm-orban-blames-eu-climate-change-actions-energy-price-surge-2021-10-08/

    • drb says:

      Poland has been trying to play different neighboring nations off one another for centuries now, while serving distant masters. It never works. Their ideological confusion will lead them into trouble this time, too.

      • Poland would have no business existing if Woody Wilson, who cheated the victory the Imperial Germany had hard won in the Great War and listened to the immigrants from Central Europe (there was no ‘Poland’ and ‘Czechia’ back then) ,had accepted reality.

        It will once again be divided by Germany and Russia the moment the last US troops leave Europe.

        • oro says:

          The U.S. military played no role in the First World War.
          Absolutely none.
          It has no artillery, no tanks, no air force and no experience.

          Russia 1,811,000
          France 1,327,000
          UK 744,000
          Italy 460,000
          Roumania 250,000
          Serbia 127,000
          India 64,000
          Australia 61,000
          Canada 56,000
          USA 53,000

          Germany 2,037,000
          Austria-Hungary 1,200,000
          Ottoman empire 300,000
          Bulgaria 88,000

          https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.5406/polishreview.62.3.0003

          • My other detailed reply is in moderation.
            The WWI US involvement was more in terms of credit and supplies.. The axis / central powers (Germany-Austria) could not face up to global trade empires (US-UK)..

            Actually, it was similar to WWII, counter intuitively, the US performed only “lite action” in comparison to Soviet effort. The US fought more in the Pacific really, plus the welcomed supply convoys into UK/USSR obviously.

            The opening of western front was delayed on purpose, they played the game let the Soviets bleed out a bit more as in not allow repeating the Napoleonic demise aftermath – Russians marching in W Europe.

          • >>>>>On April 6, 1917, when the United States declared war against Germany, the nation had a standing army of 127,500 officers and soldiers. By the end of the war, four million men had served in the United States Army, with an additional 800,000 in other military service branches.<<<<<

            the comment about WW1 was a bit odd, especially as the above information is availble with one click

            • I can’t speak for “oro” but he probably aimed at US surge only till the end of WWI, by Q3 1917 Russia was out (revolution), so renewed activity on W front again, perhaps too late for Germany anyway but without the US involvement it would drag on a bit further.. could had affected the surrender terms and overall political climate though..

            • USA had an untapped manpower and enormous industrial strength and its entry gave the Entente a hope to hang on.

              In retrospect Woody did a very bad thing.

        • Kulm> partly true*, but the prevailing key aspect was the exhaustion from the war, as the axis powers (DE+AUT), stripped of foreign trade and internal reserves in costly war surely headed into implosion of some kind anyway.

          __
          * yes there could be different proposals on the table like loose federation of concerned nations of these former Empires etc., but again the PTB followed their own game, watch the timeliness, FED was already in the control, e.g. global elites stockholders in Ruhr (DE) or Silesia (AUT) mines / steel mills, among the largest on the continent etc. So they propped up also political opposition inside DE+AUT to topple old regimes / maneuver them accordingly and favorably for even more “free market – liberal democratic” setup.. also avoiding thus some quasi communist insurgencies..

      • To some extent correct, but the long term macro drivers formative in “national characteristics” are different, some key clues bellow..

        The Central Europe has been always in the clinch of the way bigger W-E powers, simply it’s the drive of geography, pop numbers, resources and bit of cultural traits pre-determination as well. In case of Poland, their borders tend to shift the most over the ages, during brief periods of up (lifting) years – their rule was rather horrible over newly acquired subjects. Not very pleasant people, “hyena of Europe” not meant in bad faith just an observation by W. Churchill who certainly knew few things about practical power politics. Moving to Czechs, being even smaller pop but within specific region remained mostly put; their middle ages vassal status towards Germany, briefly lucked out for two generations of hosting the king for Holy Roman (German) Empire, then it fallen apart in waves of civil wars, bad luck and mismanagement, incorporation into rising regional power Austria (Spanish/Dutch money prior the “30yrs war). And there is also the late coming Hungary into the region, always vectoring towards the greater Balkans and forming alliance with Austria then loosing much of previous reach. But as we see today still able to maintain some degree of independence and healthy stubbornness. There are also few tiny ones like Slovenia, perhaps the luckiest, neatly hidden in the Alpine area.

        • There was no “Bohemia” or anything before 1830s (the Bohemian Kings were all Germans, although the Czechs gave them unpronounceable names to pretend these monarchs are their own).

          Prag belongs to Austria.

        • Slovenia should be reincorporated into Italy.

        • Interesting ideas, not sure how they fit with historical record though, you say 1830s ? Slavic tribes moved there in ~6-7th century AD, perhaps commingling with very token Celtic – German holdovers, which did not migrate westward in earlier large waves of movements with the fall of West Roman Empire and its aftershocks. I mentioned middle ages and onward, this was written mostly in Latin, the books from the wider region (abbeys, king’s court archives) across ALL countries corroborate each other on the key events of their era. There were “so few” people inhabiting these places then that they surely recognized various entities from each other..

          The Italian influence in southern Alps was usually quite weak. If anything Italy should return that hilly Southern Tirol to Austria.. (gift of US/UK/FR); even today it’s predominantly not (never) habituated largely by Italians. Similarly with the nearby Slovenian alpine enclave, they lived in the ~mountains, lately also walking down to the low country, where the Italian element was properly more at home.. yes some mixed later with the local Italian pop, e.g. served in the merch fleet or navy, went into “int biz” of the time under “.it” flag (ClubMed city / port states) of the day, still not proper Italians though..

    • MM says:

      Actually the pressure cooker in the EU is heating up around, who guessed it? Germany.
      Here is a bit of a republican article about the topic and it also stretches out a bit but the fault lines are clear.
      Unfortunately Germany had a very bad energy policy for the last 20 years (Gerhard Schroeder and the Greens). They loaded up a pretty high burden for renewables guaranteed incomes for 20 years and also the renewables go first is their idea.

      More rules at least make the sh*t flow in the right direction!

      They might form the next government…

      https://tomluongo.me/2021/10/06/european-energy-crisis-gas-you-think-burning/

      Also the EU commission has no idea whatsoever about energy. The only thing they know is:
      “The free market will solve all problems and if there is no free market, we will make more rules to enforce a free market”

      • Renewables coming first on the German grid, aka if wind doesn’t blow = paging Mr. Salmon, Mrs. Frog, Mr. AlpineLake, Mr. Pilsner, .. we command you send us YOUR e-juice ASAP and for pennies!

        In terms of EU-Comm these are just literally hired actors on remote control, not dissimilar to Congress/Senate “leadership” clowns.

    • Xabier says:

      Posturing, while vaxx mandates, applied or to come, are crushing basic human rights across the EU.

      Someone – vaxxed – was telling me the other day how worried they are about the loss of democracy in Hungary and Poland, while maintaining that vaxx coercion is not a civil liberties issue.

    • The rights of Poland vs the rights of the EU become important when things are not going well.

  7. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Mexico’s Inflation Hits 6%, Fueling Rate-Hike Pressure…

    ““The picture will remain fairly challenging in the coming months,” said Andres Abadia, chief Latin America economist at Pantheon Macroeconomics. “With the start of tapering by the Fed, it’s likely that Banxico will remain cautious and will continue raising its key rate.””

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-10-07/mexico-s-inflation-accelerates-to-6-fueling-rate-hike-pressure

  8. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Oil explorers need to raise drilling budgets by 54% to more than half a trillion dollars to forestall a significant supply deficit in the next few years, according to Moody’s Investors Service Inc.

    “Crude and natural gas drillers chastened by last year’s unprecedented collapse in demand and prices haven’t responded to the recent market rebound as the industry typically does by expanding the search for untapped fields.”

    https://www.worldoil.com/news/2021/10/7/oil-industry-needs-500-billion-to-avoid-future-supply-crises-says-moody-s

  9. Harry McGibbs says:

    “China’s Energy Crisis Is Hitting Everything From iPhones to Milk.

    “The hit from China’s energy crunch is starting to ripple throughout the globe, hurting everyone from Toyota Motor Corp. to Australian sheep farmers and makers of cardboard boxes.”

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-10-07/china-s-energy-crisis-envelops-an-already-slowing-global-economy

    • This article starts out with a number of COVID-19 vaccine issues that we have run across before. According to Google Translate, it ends:

      Not only that hemorrhagic fever symptoms could be caused by the currently used COVID gene therapy injections, but the health authorities are also feverishly pushing for the HPV vaccine for girls and boys. This vaccine, and even the MMR vaccine, could be intentionally contaminated with nanoparticles made of graphene oxide or other additives that cause blood clots and bleeding, the Marburg hemorrhagic fever symptoms.

      We must immediately stop all vaccinations and destroy all stocks of vaccines and the pharmaceutical manufacturing facilities that make them.

      It sounds like it gets carried away in its assertions.

  10. MM says:

    What would a virus researcher do to search for a virus or it’s function?
    Basically he has living cells , dying cells, dead cells mixed in certain amounts at different stages of research. The “soup” contains some elements aka proteins that can be extracted and characterized. A Protein can even be put in a computer model and a gene sequence that must have created it can be assembled. If you take genes from the soup the exact gene sequence that codes for this protein can also be assembled with the help of a computer.
    You can then intoduce the gene squence into another soup and once again you will find the protein that is proof that the gene squence existed in the first soup. So soup one obviously infected soup two because you have things from soup one in soup two.
    The only thing possibly available creating a protein that does not show up in a living cell but in a dead cell is a sort of a poison, ahem I mean virus. Scientifically speaking, we have something like a transmissible prion-like disease but we subsume it under the term virus. So nothing special here!
    The virus is proven to be contagious because it’s spike protein hase jumped from soup one to soup two. You can also inject the soup to a lab animal and as the soup is about half dead and a living being does not really like to be injected with half dead soup, the lab animal can also be proven to die from the virus that exists becaus also in the mashed animal we find that exact protein that we found in soup one and two so the protein in the animal soup is proof of the virus that we have successfully modified.
    We even know that a lab animal will die soon because we can test for the very spike protein long before the animal realises that it is already half dead. Even if it survives the positive test result it is pretty right to claim that the lab animal is as good as dead if we only have a positive test result.

    So now we apply some tweaking with the gene sequence that we calculated for the protein and repeat the process and heuraka, we have created a virus mutation on purpose, meaning our work was successful as we gained a function.
    The additional bargain of this is that from the very design of the test we can make sure that intellectual property fees will have to be paid by the lab animal because what we have proven is the existence of our very own patented protein. Ok, we will waive the fees at this point but our research was really very expensive and a lot of jobs, you know, depend on the money that we invested for the purpose of feeding our employees only so we will take the fees when we sell a vaccine. Just in case we find one. When we asked the government to pay us in advance we told them the story from the other end and claimed that all we wanted to do is to develop a vaccine, so of course we will keep our promises to you the population and the tax payer!

    So it is obvious that if we create a vaccine that codes the spike protein, the body will fight it and get better because every soldier gets better being hit with a bullet from time to time.
    So what we have is a spike protein that kills lab animals and a spike protein that protects humans. This is really one of the greatest success stories in science.
    It is so sucessful that we now even have proven that the spike protein itself does not even need a virus to begin with to make lab animals sick with c9/11:

    https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIRCRESAHA.121.318902

    Wuhan Lab for Virology did not get the nobel price this year because they could not be reached by postal mail on the address of Wuhan Lab for Proteins

    • The AHA journal article is a similar story to the one you are telling. It starts out:

      SARS-CoV-2 Spike Protein Impairs Endothelial Function via Downregulation of ACE 2

      SARS-CoV-2 (severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2) infection relies on the binding of S protein (Spike glycoprotein) to ACE (angiotensin-converting enzyme) 2 in the host cells. Vascular endothelium can be infected by SARS-CoV-2,1 which triggers mitochondrial reactive oxygen species production and glycolytic shift.2 Paradoxically, ACE2 is protective in the cardiovascular system, and SARS-CoV-1 S protein promotes lung injury by decreasing the level of ACE2 in the infected lungs.3 In the current study, we show that S protein alone can damage vascular endothelial cells (ECs) by downregulating ACE2 and consequently inhibiting mitochondrial function.

      We administered a pseudovirus expressing S protein (Pseu-Spike) to Syrian hamsters intratracheally. Lung damage was apparent in animals receiving Pseu-Spike, . . .

      The conclusion seems to be:

      Although the use of a noninfectious pseudovirus is a limitation to this study, our data reveals that S protein alone can damage endothelium, manifested by impaired mitochondrial function and eNOS activity but increased glycolysis. It appears that S protein in ECs increases redox stress which may lead to AMPK deactivation, MDM2 upregulation, and ultimately ACE2 destabilization. . .Collectively, our results suggest that the S protein-exerted EC damage overrides the decreased virus infectivity. This conclusion suggests that vaccination-generated antibody and/or exogenous antibody against S protein not only protects the host from SARS-CoV-2 infectivity but also inhibits S protein-imposed endothelial injury.

      This study seems to have a huge number of downloads and was picked up by 72 news outlets. It was Reddited 13 times and is featured on 2 Wikipedia pages. Wonders never cease!

  11. MG says:

    The main problem of Afghanistan is energy:

    https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/economy/2021/10/6/afghanistan-stares-at-power-outage-as-bills-remain-unpaid

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_in_Afghanistan

    How could they support the mining and ore processing, if they do not have energy… And China that Taliban thought to be their rescue is in energy crisis, too…

    • The title is Afghanistan could go dark as power bills remain unpaid

      Neighbouring nations supply about 78 percent of Afghanistan’s power, they have not been paid since the Taliban took over.

      According to the article:

      Currently, there’s no significant power cuts now in Kabul or elsewhere in Afghanistan. Ahmadzai said just 38% of Afghanistan’s 38 million people currently have access to electricity.

      If the countries exporting the electricity stop exporting because they have not been paid, a much smaller percentage will have access to electricity.

  12. Fast Eddy says:

    Spreading Vaccine ‘Misinformation’ Puts Medical License at Risk, U.S. Boards Tell Physicians

    Three U.S. medical certifying boards have warned doctors they risk losing their certification and license if they spread COVID vaccine misinformation, but the boards offered no clear definition of “misinformation.

    https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/vaccine-misinformation-medical-license-u-s-boards-warn-physicians/

    Fear of loss of employment … will ensure most doctors say NOTHING.

    The PR Team knows this ….

    Before anyone jumps on the docs… imagine if you would lose your source of income .. if you posted Covid information on a social media page that contradicted the narrative.

    • geno mir says:

      It looks like Ascian language is now being adopted.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascian_language

      • Fast Eddy says:

        This is MIKE!!!! the plug.

        Although Ascian is their mother tongue, adult Ascians don’t understand plain Ascian sentences, unless they are direct quotations from governmental propaganda materials (called Correct Thought). So, in order to communicate, an Ascian has to know by heart thousands of these quotations (sentences) on many different topics.

      • Bei Dawei says:

        The imprisoned geniuses of the novel “Camp Concentration” communicate furtively through alchemical symbolism.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Concentration

        • They won’t if they are lobotomized

        • Replenish says:

          Sounds legit. When I asked the philosopherai “Why did Covid-19″ Affect Milan” it spit out a 700 word explanation on how the Covid operating system is intended to erase memories and limited ways of thinking and to enhance the human brain to optimize the planet. The AI concluded that humans may opt at any time although the Covid system makes them believe they don’t have a choice.

      • According to Wikipedia:

        The Ascian Language is a fictional language invented by Gene Wolfe for his science fiction series The Book of the New Sun.[1]

        The language is spoken by the inhabitants of the “northern continents” of the future earth, the Ascians, who are enslaved by their masters (the Group of Seventeen) in a way much like the people of Oceania in George Orwell’s book 1984.

  13. Fast Eddy says:

    How cool is this! It would appear that the passports don’t stop the spread either … of course that’s because the vaccines are useless hahahaha

    This is worth paying to see — MOREONS FOC

    https://twitter.com/cricketwyvern/status/1445832209307418627

    • Artleads says:

      I thought they were just meant to elicit fear, confusion and division, with little if any real health efficacy.

    • Minority of One says:

      From one of the posts. England looks like.

      MidsummerMadam
      @MidsummerMadam
      · 6 Oct
      My sons school vaccinated children today. I had no communication from the school to tell me it was happening. The school claim the NHS did not send the consent forms for parents. So they went ahead without asking the parents. What kind of fuckery is this? #leaveourkidsalone

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Is it not amazing that if one points a CovIDIOT to the results in Sweden (40th on the deaths per capita list.. with a huge drop after implementing focused protection — which as I mentioned I disagree with … I’d go full cull but that’s another story)…..

        The CovIDIOTS are given a way out of the nightmare…. no lockdowns no masks…just normal life… like it was when the flu paid a visit….

        Shopping.. eating at restaurants… disco dancing in the clubs… concerts … school… work…etc…

        How do the CovIDIOTS respond? They trot out the MSM propaganda verbatim … well it’s because the Swedes all live alone … but if you ask — oh – so they ALL live alone and they don’t go to all those places you are not allowed to go because of the lockdowns… they just stay home and self impose solitary lockdowns?

        Then they get angry…. dismissive … aggressive…

        Amusingly a friend but not a very good friend — pinged me from Canada going full CovIDIOT over a year ago — I tried the above reasoning on him and he got very pissed off indeed… telling me his mother – who is a doctor — and has an Order of Canada Medal says Covid is the real deal…

        I asked if she was an epidemiologist .. because I have spoken with a number of actual people who study this stuff for a living … and they say it ain’t the real deal at all… I think his mother is a GP (she definitely is not in the virology field or he would have said so).

        It all ended quite abruptly …

        How bizarre…. I was offering a legitimate way out of the nightmare… but he didn’t want it.

        He got very upset with me for trying to help him (Quebec was in a very extreme and lengthy lockdown at the time…)

        We have not communicated since….

        I try to avoid the subject with other closer friends who suffer from CovIDIOCY…

        It’s like trying to steer an alcoholic away from the bottle … they have to work it out for themselves… with some professional help perhaps….

        I reckon CovIDIOCY should be classified as a psychological disorder like schizophrenia …. and MOREONISM… incurable… perhaps it could be kept in control with strong tablets?

        Be careful when feeding the CovIDIOTS…. they may seem harmless but their teeth are sharp and the will snap your fingers off if you taunt them… just like many simple beasts will do.

  14. Fast Eddy says:

    Yesterday it was reported anti-vax GPs were hindering the rollout in Northland, where an essential worker has tested positive for Covid-19.

    Covid-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins denounced anti-vax GPs, but said it was up to the Medical Council to deal with them.

    Medical Council chairperson Doctor Curtis Walker told Morning Report on Friday “I can’t speak about individual cases or individual notifications, but what I can say is that we very much exist on behalf of the public to ensure that doctors are practising safely at all times and our first concern to protect public safety.”

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/453145/medical-council-has-zero-tolerance-for-anti-vax-messages-from-doctors-as-it-receives-23-complaints

    Funny – I never heard back re my complaint

    • Bobby says:

      More vaccine dogma. Suppression of free thought of professional position kills the healthy narratives of logic and reason. This is become a war against sane debate. A narrow narrative of bigotry trying to define reality…when has that ever worked?

  15. Fast Eddy says:

    Hmmm… 95% injected in some areas …. https://www.odt.co.nz/regions/how-vaccinated-your-suburb-southern-vax-stats-revealed

    That’s a lot of sheep…. or maybe it’s all a lie to create the perception that everyone else is poisoning themselves so may as well join

    They would lie would then — other than when they lied about people poisoning themselves with Ivermectin and clogging up the ERs… only that once… right

    BTW – since the injection is USELESS… norm dunc mike … why don’t you also take birth control pills?

    Or maybe you could volunteer to open your brains so scientists can muck around in your Peas … no real purpose but you never know they might find a tumour in there….

  16. Fast Eddy says:

    24:20 mark — most patients in the ER she is seeing in recent months when asked if they are vaxxed they respond ‘with pride YES I am double-vaxxed’

    Hahhahahahahaahahaha….. MOREEEEEE…. ONS…..

    • Xabier says:

      Thanks, FE, well worth listening to.

      How patronising he was to Dr Killian!

      ‘I think you need to talk to the professionals and the scientists’?

      She IS both of those: and has a conscience.

      She handled her resignation announcement very well, given how emotional it must be to be driven to it.

    • Minority of One says:

      Second video is an interview with an ER doctor in Canada. She just resigned from her post. Another excellent eye-opener.

  17. Artleads says:

    No Acquiescence!

    • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

      it’s close to guaranteed that 10/28 will be a fairly “normal” day of bAU in IC.

      if something “big” does happen, that might be cool, a little spice in the blandness of day to day activities.

      most days are just the slow continuation of the creeping downward slog of the social and economic decline due to diminishing returns especially in the area of energy resources ie mainly FF.

      slow dull monotonous sometimes interesting slow creeping downward slog at a snail’s pace or perhaps even slower.

      but I will circle the 28th on my calendar, and beforehand will stock up on the usual stuff TP, dark chocolate, etc.

      could be a big one!

      oh boy!!

  18. Mirror on the wall says:

    Oh wow, I have just reached the end of season 7. Winter has indeed arrived.

    • Mirror on the wall says:

      An article in the Telegraph traces the present energy price spikes back to the tension between Australia and China. If so, then it is traceable further back to USA’s hostility to China and its encouragement of Anglo allies to up the hostility – which has led to an uncertain energy supply this winter in Europe, and in UK in particular.

      States are just as liable, especially geopolitically, to bring underlying problems to the fore as to stave them off? USA also wants Europe to be hostile to Russia, on which it is dependent for LNS – insane? Arguably USA state needs to be put in a box.

      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2021/10/07/gas-crisis-entirely-predictable-hopeless-ministers-should-have/

      > Hopeless ministers should have seen the entirely predictable gas crisis coming

      From geopolitical disputes to Britain’s overreliance on competition, the only surprising part of this crisis is how poorly prepared we were

      It’s not just the UK and it’s not just gas. Crude oil is up 30pc in the last six months, which would be big news in normal times. But these are not normal times. Chinese coal and US natural gas prices have doubled. Liquid natural gas prices in Asia have, in the word of the moment, gone parabolic.

      …. It is impossible to pin the recent huge price spikes down to one factor. If you follow the thread all the way back it appears to start with the heightening of tensions between China and Australia after the latter called for an international investigation into the origins of the Covid outbreak.

      In retaliation, Beijing decided to buy less coal from the Aussies, instead increasing imports of liquid natural gas. This accelerated as its economy restarted towards the end of the pandemic.

      European countries in particular seem to have been caught on the hop.

      • metro70 says:

        I’m not paying to read the Telegraph ….so I’m just going by your interpretation of the theory.

        So the idea is that because Australia sensibly and legitimately said that the world must investigate the origin of Covid19 in order to have any hope of preventing further catastrophe……an apoplectic China shut down imports of coal from Australia…plus other imports as well like barley…wine..lobsters etc….that’s all true….and because of that a coal shortage ensued in China due to China’s inability to source replacement coal and their massive dummy spit since Australia was willing and able to provide all they needed…in fact it was sitting off-shore…that’s all true….because of that your implication appears to be that Australia caused the European energy crisis?

        Then …you [ or the Telegraph journalist] implicate America …that HELPED both Russia and Europe via the BidenInc decision to give the go-ahead to the Russian Nordstream pipeline…and you say that in doing that …helping Russia and Europe ….America encouraged Europe to be hostile to the very Russia it …Europe….had been wanting to complete its big deal with…Russia…to whom triumphant Europe…mainly Germany…. has made itself hopelessly hostage…..and you say it’s the US that must be put in its box?

        And these events are what is responsible …in your view[or The Telegraph’s]….for the fact that Europe has been unhinged enough ….untethered enough from reality and commonsense…..to MAKE ITSELF hostage to Russia…to render itself still dependent on the reviled demon coal and gas and the CO2-spewing biomass-burning….dependent on interconnectors and …..ultimately and insanely hostage to the weather?

        And you or The Telegraph claim that the blame can be sheeted back to Australia that just wants to sell its stuff on a free market that doesn’t exist any more because Fascist forces posing as noble saviours of ‘the planet’ and donning the sheep’s clothing of environmentalists….have a different agenda….a last ditch attempt to grab power and control and untold illegitimate wealth from dealing in paper money and destruction of freedom…sovereignty and democracy. …under the guise of Global Socialism.

      • Minority of One says:

        The roots of this crisis go back decades. Probably began when we started using a finite resource as though it would last forever. If it was not now, the crisis would have come soon enough. The only surprise for me is we did not get here pre-2020.

        • Xabier says:

          We treated a finite resource – a one-off, spectacular, bonanza – which enabled us to indulge in our delusions, as if it were renewable woodland, properly harvested according to a sensible schedule – as per the Middle Ages.

          Oh, but they were primitive and we are advanced, aren’t we?

          Fools propose, natural limits dispose………

      • geno mir says:

        Exactly. We are close to depletion of resources and energy resources are declining since Dec 2018 but geopolitics are the main drive of exacerbation in the enrgy sector this season. More precisely USA and UK with their vile attitude towards Russia and China. Europe has no other option for consistent energy supply at appropriate price except Russia and now that Russia has had enough and have returned the stones thrown at her to the ones who threw them. EU is mad that now Russia refuse to send more gas than the contracted volumes and is sending everyting (minus their internal consumption) to Asia (mainly China) but what the EU comissars and the german political ellites were expecting, that the country they have designated as enemy and wage war (for now less than 5% kinetik) against will come to their help. Pathetic! The combined west is now a pure joke with no expertise. The loonies are now running the asylum.
        I just read an article from Luongo and although I like the name of his blog more than himself it seems he has hit the nail on the head with his latest article.

        https://tomluongo.me/2021/10/06/european-energy-crisis-gas-you-think-burning/

        Perhaps 2 weeks ago I stumbled upon a gas avaiability analysis for Russia (trying to find the link) which stated that Russia has gas for 30 years ahead if no new fields are brough online. So bottom line is that Russia still has enough gas to cover all their contracted obligations at least for the next 5 years but this gas will flow to friendly countries first and only scraps will be left for the foes.

        • Minority of One says:

          I rarely watch the news, but a couple of nights ago the BBC early evening news did a segment on UK / European gas supplies. They gave only one paraphrase from Putin but as the BBC’s expertise on energy is non-existent, they did not realise the significance. The BBC stated that Putin said he was angry that Europe was no longer interested in long-term gas supply contracts and so only had themselves to blame for lack of gas (something like that, there are bound to be several long-term contracts still active).

          Long-term gas supply contracts are more costly, but it allows the supplier to plan ahead and invest as necessary, and the customer is paying a bit extra for security of supply.

          In the noughties (2000-2009) all European countries except the UK got most of their gas via long-term supply contracts, from various countries. I wonder what happened to make this change?

          If China (or anyone else) agreed to long-term supply contracts with Russia, that alone would explain why they get the gas, of which there is clearly a limited amount. I think that would be what Putin was hinting at. But I have no idea of the agreements between China and Russia, or anyone else.

          • Of course, this is indirectly what I am showing in my post, in Figure 5. In the early years, natural gas was sold on long term contracts, with the price indexed to the price of oil. Once the price of oil became very high, this practice stopped because no one could afford to lock in very high natural gas prices. The demand simply would not be there at such high prices.

          • Minority of One says:

            I forgot to emphasize the important bit:

            “If China (or anyone else) agreed to long-term supply contracts with Russia, that alone would explain why they get the gas, of which there is clearly a limited amount.”

            That alone would explain why they get the gas, and WE WILL NOT.

            For as long as I can remember, anti-Russian sentiment in the UK is pathological (like a disease), at least within the political establishment and MSM, especially the BBC and the Guardian newspaper. Any halfwit could comprehend that however much gas Russia has, there are limits to how much it can produce, and export. But here in the UK it is invariably reported as Putin is cutting off the gas supplies to punish us. The MSM is full of such nonsense at the moment.

          • geno mir says:

            Russia and china has long term energy contract (40 years) and given that Russia has way more trade with china than with EU it is no brainer to expwct russia to prefer exporting gas to EU instead of China.

        • I would not assume that any analysis saying that Russia has gas for 30 years ahead is really right. These analyses are dependent on a lot of things, including the economy as we know it today staying together, without the collapse of major areas, and international trade staying together. Russia will need a lot of help from others in actually producing the natural gas. For example, a lack of semiconductor chips of the right kind could bring the system down. So could a lack of the right kinds of lubricating oils.

          • geno mir says:

            I agree with you, Gail. But where we draw the line on veracity? I am using simple rule for all kind of official reports. Simply they are all manipulated and the numbers are rarely the correct ones. So what we can do? We don’t have the tools to obtain accurate numbers and feed it in to the model so no apperant reason for expanding mental energy to do the math. We can only extrapolate such reports as signals (preety ambiguous ones) and try analyse it in the scheme of bigger picture and see what shakes and moves in correlation to them.

            One thing which moves and shakes in correlation with this statement from russia is the immediate uptick in investment for gas free capacity in rusdia and all countries which are on the way of the pipes (Turkey, Bulgaria, Serbia, Hungary etc.). So if money is spent to create capacity and storage perhaps thwre will be supply.

        • The article you link to ends:

          Germany is the lynchpin to the entire Davos edifice. Without a compliant and beaten Germany there is no further Great Reset. A Germany that breaks from the euro becomes a Germany that realigns with Russia and Eastern Europe. It’s a Germany no longer hell bent on internal European mercantilism and the establishment of the Fourth Reich through the EUSSR.

          The German people keep asking for that policy to end but aren’t given the options by their leadership to make that happen. Then again, they keep giving their leadership just enough power to forestall their having to make a real decision. That decision is coming at them, fast.

          As it is everyone across the West in various guises.

          So, as as Powell under extreme pressure to go full MMT retard with five little basis points, Putin, with a few million BTUs of gas, is forcing open fault lines in the aristocracy that thinks it deserves to run the world. Together, if they simply sit back and continue to do nothing, can bring down the whole rotten edifice.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          I wonder if this is about prepping for the cattle for the final stages of the CEP…

          ‘Mareks’ strikes in mid-winter… mega deaths – hospitals overwhelmed… FEAR… total lockdowns enforced with martial law (see Australia)… blackouts… heating off… then the supply chain snaps… no food… those that don’t die from Mareks cower in the dark … starving…

          Not pleasant and still very awful ….. but better than Ripping Faces… I don’t think there will be much of that once this full court press of misery and fear is applied…

          I remain hopeful that the CEP will include a bottle of Fentanyl for every household…with the instructions ‘open and take 10 per person when the misery is too much’

          • geno mir says:

            Well, i don’t know about CEP (feasibility seems unobtainable given the human material involved) but i am sure this winter will be hell on steroids.

  19. Fast Eddy says:

    Video: “How Many People Are We Going to Kill if We Keep Following this Narrative”, Asks Ontario Emergency Physician

    https://www.headsupster.com/forumthread?shortId=181

    BTW – email alerts are no longer functioning on that site…. there are 1200+ active emails … hmmm….

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Dr. Kilian has spoken out before regarding the growing corruption of our health care services and has shown leadership and integrity by resigning from her position.

      “At least 80% of the ER patients in the past three months were double-vaxxed”, says Dr. Kilian of her informal survey of patients entering the ER with serious medical issues. “How many people are we going to kill if we keep following this narrative?”

  20. Fast Eddy says:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/biden-doesnt-know-vaccinated-individuals-can-spread-covid

    That’s a bit of an ask considering he doesn’t even know he is the President or where is most of the time….

    norm and Joe are in the same boat… except that norm sometimes thinks he is the President

    • Norm has a lot of worthwhile things to say. Joe Biden, probably not.

      • Artleads says:

        I’m reposting what I just sent to Norm. I’ve listed a tiny number of reasons why it’s not logical to rule out what he calls conspiracies. And I agree that he has a lot of worthwhile things to say–only not about THIS emergency:

        – I am puzzled why, in the space of a year, the whole world is in a panic to get injected with clearly under-tested drugs.

        – Ever time I visit a medical establishment, I must face peculiar and stringent protocols and a young lady asking if I know about or intend to partake in vaccinations. (The physician will see me anyway, so what’s the point of asking me this question? Am I being oversensitive if I see this unusual protocol as a means toward conformity?)

        – Having admittedly drifted over to the right politically–and I know you have not–I’ve come to be dismayed by the groupthink of the MSM in its support of the “left.” The same manner of impenetrable insistence that they are right and the right is wrong pervades their support of every new COVID edict from on high.

        – Given an ounce of “patterning” ability, one could see that wearing a mask and social distancing were only a prelude to something bigger and more constricting. One especially knew that mandates for vaccines were coming. (Didn’t you know that?) That left the way open to consider conspiracies. Why would that be surprising in the face of massive underhand messaging–telling a gullible public one thing when it could be seen there was a powerful plan to inaugurate something DIFFERENT, whose safety, range of control, and intent might be questioned?

        – I’m around your age, and I’ve never seen a social phenomenon like the COVID protocol in all this long lifetime. Why would I treat it as normal? Don’t we have antennae of some sort to warn us of strange and discrepant happenings around us? CORRECTION: Maybe there was something as unsettling and dangerous as now in Nazi Germany, but it didn’t affect the whole world. Are you saying there is nothing about now that is reminiscent of Nazi Germany? (An unyielding conformity in the news, for instance? Punitive measures against those who don’t do as central authority–backed by its media–dictates?)

        • Xabier says:

          Clear-sighted stuff, Artleads.

          Sinister, isn’t it?

          We are so very far now from ‘vaccinate to protect the vulnerable and back to normal’……

        • Yorchichan says:

          It has been obvious from the very early days of the (alleged) pandemic, that rather than the vaccines being designed to get us out of the pandemic, the pandemic was invented in order to get everyone to take the vaccines. That alone should be all the reason anyone needs to avoid the vaccines.

          • and why was the pandemic invented to makes all get vaccinated??

            please please dont tell me it was so Bill Gates could track my movements by 5 g masts

            • Yorchichan says:

              Well, that’s the question few know the answer to with any degree of certainty, isn’t it. Depopulation, CEP or enslavement? Take your pick.

              I saw a video this morning in which someone had been identified as travelling on a faked vaccine passport after an airport scanner revealed their unvaccinated status. Not so very far removed from being tracked by 5G. I would look for a link, but without further confirmation I’m not convinced of the truth of it myself, plus I know you would dismiss it anyway.

        • first…congratulations on being nearly my age. May you see out the century.

          There has never been a covid phenomena like this one, precisely because no means has existed in previous to allow it to happen

          back in the 1920s, folks got ill and died, or they didn’t.

          No means existed to prevent it, but more importantly no means existed to spread everybodys homespun conspiracy about it.

          back then Rockefeller or JP Morgan had no plans to reduce the global population to serfdom, or sterilise womenfolk, through vaccination,
          There was no certainty that it came from a Chinese lab.

          So whats different this time?

          The infection of social media, where everyone can spread whatever story they feel like, to everyone they know and dont know.
          oooo look–my vaccine has little critters in it–Bill Gates put them there to control my brain.
          I try to get people to use logic, not hysteria.

          And the infection of Nazi Germany most certainly did affect the whole world, or most of it.

          Right now people are frightened. There is no plot or grand plan, fear spreads its own infection, fast.
          Covid has killed relatively few, but it’s stopped our commercial flow pattern in its tracks. Something we were told would go on forever.

          ‘Just in Time’ hasn’t worked.

          You cant get medication, because the flow of it has been interrupted?–You’re dead.

          the tiniest aspect of most of our lives has been affected. Cant get microchips?–thats your assembly line job gone.

          This might all rectify itself to last a while longer.
          Or it might not.

          We shall know in a few years. But still deny that it happened.

          • Xabier says:

            Once again, Norman,you are – deliberately – confusing some of the wilder stories on the internet with the reasoned analysis, based on data and scientific rigour, of doctors and researchers like Yeadon, Malone, Bossche, Bhakdi, and so on.

            This is not at all intelligent.

            • how do i differentiate between the wilder stories on the internet, and those that pass your credibility test?

              so far, that eludes me.

              sterilisation..mini critters, bill Gates mania, depopulation (you know the list.)

              so

              Tell me—which are truth and which fantasy.? You obviously know–I do not

              Now, I’m making a direct request:

              set down a list of each, and post it here–that way I will know in future when to nod wisely, and when to laugh, (or cry).
              I can’t wait to read reasoned analysis about 5g masts, and iron filings pumped to my bloodstream particularly as you no doubt will supply the necessary tech info and formulae or whatever.

              And don’t forget the concerted plot by the ‘elite’ to bump us all off. So rthey can have the planet as a billionaires playground. Why else?

              Must be true–i read it online?

              7bn bodies are really gonna smell.

              Ive already set out my own credibility test on Yeadon,–I didn’t know that the UK Times, Times of Japan, and Reuters had all teamed up to ”put wild stories on the internet.. about him.

              Even his own ex colleagues seem to think he’s ‘flipped’.
              They are obviously ‘in on it’.

              Reading back through my last post, I can see nothing ‘exaggerated’–I’ve stated ‘what is’

              Tell me please, what isn’t?

            • Fast Eddy says:

              And norm… I assume you believe(d) that Saddam had WMD? Because almost everyone said he did too — including loads of experts and the MSM.

              Shall I make norm dance like a fool?

              Watch norm dance for FE…

              https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a7/ad/c2/a7adc233bdfeeebdf5b3f3aa5b6f806c.gif

            • Artleads says:

              Intelligent like a mad, cornered bull. Just smart enough to be dangerous.

            • Tim Groves says:

              Say what you will
              You can’t take the stars at night
              Take your love
              But that doesn’t stop my life
              You’ve been fooling around
              I looked to you for love
              Thought you walked on holy ground
              But oh, you’re mean

              I thought that here
              Was a guy, brave and strong
              A brother to his brothers
              Brave and strong
              Was preaching what to practice
              But that don’t mean a thing
              You’re mean

              Tall in the saddle
              One of these days you’re gonna have to dismount
              You don’t leave me downhearted
              But I’m sorry that you had to go
              ‘Cos we had fun, fun, fun, fun
              Fun, fun, fun
              We had fun while it lasted
              We had fun while it lasted

          • artleads says:

            “first…congratulations on being nearly my age. May you see out the century.”

            You can’t help being slyly mean, can you? Especially when you’re in a corner.

            • it was a genuine wish

              your social life must be limited if you read mean-ness in nothing.

              exactly what ‘corner’ i’m supposed to be in eludes me.

              please elaborate?

              One cannot be trapped in a corner, when surrounded only by hot air.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              norm .. since dunc seldom posts anymore … and when he does he posts illogical vitriol targeting no-vaxxers … (I think his brain has exploded now that he sees that the vax serves no purpose — and is lashing out like a dying rat)….. and there are legions of no-vaxxers here… so his message is not … shall we say… resonating….

              And mike is irrelevant… he’s a useless troll…

              So that leaves you …. you remind me of the CCP …. a country with no legitimate allies… oh yes… Guinea Bissau and North Korea and Venezuela and various other failed states whose leaders have received a few dollars from Xi to kiss his ass.. will kiss his ass…

              But the CCP – like you — is a pariah…. not respected… despised by many …

              Basically you are like an old buffalo .. the wild dogs and lions encircle you here on OFW…. waiting for you to post more rubbish… and ripping into you ….

              But the dogs and lions spit the hunks of flesh on the ground… we do not like gnarly old buffalo meat… we leave that for the rats….

              And we keep you alive…. because it is so much fun to rip small bits off of you day after day after day.

            • you should be privy to the off-OFW discussions I have, about you and a few others. To repeat it would embarrass those concerned.

              I am by nature bloody minded in this respect. I refute nonsense as my contribution to saving humankind from itself. Your outpourings feed my certainties.
              To me the English language is a plaything, to conjure up ideas and images wherever i think they might flourish.

              I don’t profess to be the best, or particularly good for that matter. But over a lifetime people have paid to read whatever i’ve written, and come back for more.

              i do enjoy it–your help is invaluable, the flailing around, the chalked insults on the wall, the constant repetition, self in the third person, telling us all about that wondrous self, and how you deal with those of lesser stature. (which means just about everybody else)—- I used to think you were just kidding around. But that was years ago.
              All i can do now is admire your stamina.

              And marvel at the prime example of just how a limited vocabulary allows me to manipulate infantile phrases and forge them into barbs i might return to you.
              The amusement i get from reading desperation, trying to coin yet another insult from your limited word range. I especially enjoy being regaled with stories of your macho image—especially during the paralympics. A revelation there.

              And watching your apoplexy if anyone on OFW dares to call BS on your utterings.
              Careful of that short fuse—it might get damp.

              You may have noticed that I don’t get angry. I have no need to.

              But it’s been a long time eddy.

              I wonder if Gail will give us a gold clock each, as the longest serving commenters.

              Or maybe 1 gold clock between us. We could have it 6 months each a year.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              you should be privy to the off-OFW discussions I have, about you and a few others. To repeat it would embarrass those concerned.

              Do you really think that Fast Eddy and the rest of the Core care what the MOREONS think?

              The MOREONS are playing at ‘trying to keep up with the Jones’ but they don’t have the intellectual horsepower to make it to the Big Leagues… so they natter like bitter housewives over the clotheslines about the neighbours…

              Those that matter on OFW recognize that norm is simply not capable… and they shake their heads in wonder at the utter rubbish you post….

              If the MOREONS have an issue with Fast Eddy (god emperor etc)…. they are most welcome to bring it …..

              But we know how that will end …. it will end as it always ends…. with the MOREONS being run around in circles… not knowing which way is up and which is down … like the mental midgets they are …

              And they will quickly retreat and cower under their rocks… with severe concussions … feeling fortunately to be let off so lightly…..

              https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7198/7082701207_ffd0780778_o.gif

              OFW is peaking … just as the maelstrom begins

            • that’s good to know eddy

              glad you told us

            • Tim Groves says:

              Norman, I think what Eddy is trying to say in his own inimitable way, and I think many of us here concur with it, is that while you are cantankerous old bugger who can be “slyly mean” at times, we all love you too much to let you wreck your final years out of sheer pig-headedness by taking yet another dangerous jab that you don’t really want or need just to prove… what exactly?

              I mean, what is the point of further revving up your immune system into overdrive and risking goodness knows what side effects?

              If you are just pretending to get a booster in order to tease us, that’s great. I’m all for playful antics in deadpan mode. But if you are actually planning to get a booster, for your own sake you really need to think this through. Unless the first two shots have precipitated dementia, your bacon slicer of a mind should be able to come to a firm conclusion about the wisdom of adding a third once it has sliced up all the relevant evidence.

            • i’m just stopping by the vax clinic because it’s conveniently close to the dementia care home where my mate is incarcerated

              with current fuel problems it saves a second trip.

              i’d like any verbal mean ness pointed out. Most of my barbs are directed at Mr Short fuse. (and his courtiers) No one else. They form part of the day’s amusement.

              i really don’t do cantankerous.

              I make it a point only to respond in kind to ridiculous comments , where my thinking fails to ‘conform’ to accepted channels of opinion—ie conspiratitis or hoaxanomics or the latest plotarama. , they are not made in a malicious sense. I really don’t do malice. Life’s too short.

              I maybe make the mistake of thinking every hide is as thick as mine.

              In here i maybe come across as a knowitall–but in this forum that is a very common complaint.
              Ive made a few forecasts over the years which are right on the button. Plus a lot of nonsense too of course.

              10 years ago my forecast of ‘mid 2020s for ultimate collapse’ isn’t looking too far adrift now. Lets hope I’m wrong.

              but in 2011 I also forecast a fascist potus for 2016. But He wasn’t very good at it. The next one will be. 2028 maybe?

              if a comment flies in the face of reality–I say so, but try to be gentle in my saying so. That may not always work of course.
              My reality is mine alone. It differs from yours.
              Constant insistence on the usual range of fantastical hoaxes will invite my pin of ridicule. I do not resort to the outright language of abuse, or ‘lose it’ in any sense. Or repeat myself or scream my opinion in caps, as a substitute for substance.

              sensititivities might be more easily bruised than my own. Can’t help that.

              but—as Robbie Burns put it–to see our’sels’ as others see us.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              When my mate told me he was going forward with the injection only because he believed he was going to be able to travel quarantine free…. I said .. I would consider that but given the number of times governments and Fauci had lied… I mean changed their minds on covid policy… I intended to wait and confirm that they’d follow through ….before going ahead (even though no matter what I had no intention of putting this poison into my body).

              He ignored that in his desperation to get on a plane… he still cannot get on a plane without a massive quarantine on return… and of course he’s destroyed his health.

              It’s a sad tale that is being repeated over and over and over.. so many people here in NZ are taking the jab because they believe if enough people sign up — we’ll return to normal…

              They are being sold a massive lie…

              If we do open up at some point … it will be for the purpose of spreading the virus amongst a highly vaxxed population and encouraging mutations… we do not have to open to the world for that to happen though — just let the Aucklanders roam free…. as is now being discussed….

            • Artleads says:

              “it was a genuine wish”

              What a lie! You’re mean to the core (unless you’re manifesting some sort of mental defect), and you will use any means to smear or insult someone who opposes your pretense of decency.

            • you really do have a problem artleads, finding ill thoughts in others.

              luckily i’ve never been there…cereal killers apart, i get along with most people in RL. Most people have a thread of niceness if you take the trouble to look for it.
              Much more rewarding than unravelling all those dark threads.

              We can all imagine those….not good.

              still no explanation of the ‘corner’ or ‘slyly mean’

              doesn’t bother me..only intrigues me.

              the way you conjure meaning from words that had no such meaning embedded in them….but then, i only write rubbish, if i had to read it fresh, i might find all kinds of dark intent in it.

              there really isn’t any. I really don’t do anger. Maybe 50 years ago i used to–but it solved nothing, changed nothing.
              Maybe that will be my ticket to immortality. Who knows?

              which is why, as i’ve said elsewhere, i don’t fly into rages, or scream caps at anyone, or make silly allusions about stuff i have no knowledge of.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        norm might see that as patronizing… because he is old and feeble-minded… very kind all the same

      • geno mir says:

        But he thinks that his knowledge (which is impartial as is the case with every human) defines reality on 100% and is blind for anything which is not part of his knowledge base. More or less the same way with FE but at least FE has a sense of humor (bit grim and morbid for the average reader but still very appeasing).

        • Fast Eddy says:

          One big difference… Fast Eddy subscribes to this

          https://quotefancy.com/media/wallpaper/3840×2160/4792643-John-Maynard-Keynes-Quote-When-the-facts-change-I-change-my-mind.jpg

          The problem is that norm’s mind has shrunk to the size of a Pea so he is unable to change direction without tipping over … he has Old Goat syndrome

          • geno mir says:

            Having a sense of humor means your mind is wired to use synthesis as a main analytical tool. And Norman is just entitled whitey who thinks noone has bigger brain than himself hence he always thinks that he is right even when spewing outright BS.
            Another observation: you use your mind to abaorb and understand reality, Norman is projecting his mind outward and thinks this is reality.

            • first time i’ve been called whitey, in OFW or anywhere else.–lots of other expressions, but even Mr Shortfuse has never used that

              Entitled to what exactly. I need to know, in case i’m missing out.? We can all resent ‘our lot’.

              from that–does one assume that you are something other? If you are angry about life, none of that is of my doing or intention or concern.

              of all exchanges in OFW, i didn’t think that term applied here. Ive been on OFW since Adam was in short trousers, I’ve never seen a single racial term used by anyone.

              If you live in alternative reality, and expect others to bend to your prejudices and bring them into the real world, the various characters who live in the cocooon of OFW will quickly rid you of such notions

            • geno mir says:

              Whatever you say, Norman. You are welcome to make noise and even pale attempts at humor. With practice perhaps you will level up, at the end we live through absurd times so even the above is not impossible 😉

            • but the answer to my question?

            • geno mir says:

              Oh Norman, i can send you some ginko biloba pills free of charge,it seems you greatly need them given that a chain of 3-4 posts is hard for you to follow.
              As we have been discussing opinions and how some people (some people being particularly you) are so proud of theirs the only possible answear is what? (hint: your opinion).
              Here is your answear. When i will get mine? Asking for a friend (hint: just eait 2 more weeks and Gail will close the comments so you will

            • as i said

              Ive never read a racist comment on OFW I think yours was the first.

              Pity–but this forum has become a conspiracy fest. There seems a collective self determination to keep it that way. I can only guess why that should be.

              It used to be an ongoing exchange of relevant information on whatever the subject of the post was.

              Now the subject of the post–(in this case “Could we be hitting natural gas limits”) has been subverted into covid conspiracies—just as the last post was.

              One must assume that whatever Gail writes as the next post, the same will happen again.
              Which seems pointless. Just the theatre of the plotfest. Nothing more.

              Only the conspiracists remain, and a few diehards who do not know the moon landing was faked.

              They must, perforce, agree with one another or the conspiracy dies. And that cannot be allowed

              It would be difficult to sustain ”conspiracy” on “natural gas limits.”

              Covid (and the rest) it seems, is sufficiently vague to keep conspiracies going for years (if you dont know the moon landing/ WTC was faked–there must be something wrong with you).

            • I agree that there is more focus on conspiracies than there needs to be, especially on what may be very old conspiracies.

              At the same time, we need to recognize that powerful people sometimes work together to accomplish what they consider is important. People seem to get a feeling of accomplishment if they can join together with others to accomplish a common goal, even if the goal and the way of accomplishing it seem bizarre to those outside the group.

              We also need to understand that the psychology of crowds and mobs works in a very bizarre manner, as described by Dr. Mettias Desmet. People who lack connectedness and meaning in life may join together in ways that seem strange. They are likely to act almost as if they are hypnotized. They create a collective narrative that allows themselves to take their anxiety out on some scapegoat. This may look like a conspiracy, but it seems to happen when energy consumption per capita is too low, as it is now.

            • people conspire together to acheive an end

              this is built into our ‘survival genes’–if such things exist.

              to bring down a mammoth, (an energy resource) we had to conspire–if we didn’t, we starved. One mammoth was sufficient. We couldn’t and didn’t herd all the mammoths together , slaughter them all and sell their tusks for profit.

              But that necessity hasn’t gone away, now we ‘conspire ‘ to grab a different ‘energy resource’, an oilfield, or even a nation.
              A group of ‘conspiratorial’ individuals conspire to start a war, knowing that there is vast profit to be made from dead soldiers.

              death doesn’t figure on balance sheets, arms sales do.

              The Rothschilds ‘conspired’ to lend money to whoever wanted to start a war in the 18th c. They became the wealthiest group in the world.

              The same thing applies to weapons sales in the USA.. The only fully armed nation in the world, about to go to war with itself.
              That will not be a ‘conspiracy’ it will a survival reflex of millions of misguided people, convinced that they know what is ‘right’.
              If their ‘right’ is ‘wrong’ for someone else—well, tough.

              Meanwhile the arms dealers get richer.

              So the conspiracies go on: ” how can we make bigger profits this year than last year?”

              So Bezos subverts energy to his own ends, builds ”mammoth” sheds with it, and diverts miniscule levels of energy from each of us to great a single colossal energy input for himself.
              A conspiracy?
              Certainly. The shareholders of Amazon ‘conspire’ to create profits for themselves.

              What they do not do is conspire to rid the world of its excess population, so that in some weird way, they can go on extracting ‘profit’ from an empty planet.

              On a planet without large population, profit ceases, and everything comes to a halt.

              we return to hunter-gathering (the few that remain) and conspiracies revert to the energy-product of the hunt, just as it always was.

              This is why the ‘vaccine conspiracy’ thing is so laughable and sad. Everyone is determined to cling to belief that it exists, when we are effectively conspiring in our own demise and blaming everyone else for our problems.

              we are the problem.

            • geno mir says:

              Whatever you say Norman.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              I shudder at the thought of norm trying to make a living doing stand-up….

              It would be almost as dangerous as that third injection he’s got coursing through his body right now …

              norm … feel free to ignore and stabbing pains in your chest… that’s normal with any vaccine and it will pass after the open heart surgery

            • it’s stabbing pains in my back i worry about.

              still, with my standup routine, even thrown rotten fruit is valuable these days, half a rotten tomato lets you make use of the other half, and there’s a lot of bulk in cabbage, potatoes can painful but they can be dodged and picked up later. Sometimes there’s even a loaf of bread, which is great as long as it’s still in its wrapper and in sell by (throw by?) date.

              as to open heart surgery, docs are very caring of my heart as it’s getting higher up the donation list as the years roll on—-will it last out for its next renter? Who knows. Nice to think of a bit of me being immortal. They don’t want any other bits, though I’ve offered.
              Worn out apparently, during a misspent youth.

              I’m doing my best to look after my heart, not too much stress. I’ve even been using a tyre pump to blow up my inflatable companion lately, rather than the traditional method. (she says I’m starting to take her for granted).
              Still, thank you for your concern. I will keep you updated on developments.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              norm – when you are about to roll up the sleeve to play Vaccine Roulette… maybe you could come up something more profound instead of the usual gibberish

            • then outmatch my gibberish

            • Mirror on the wall says:

              I would be careful of GB, and of Siberian ginseng. The tendency to forget is perhaps an important part of middle aged maturity and of old age. The organism takes what it needs and it disposes of its waste, and memories can be seen in that context.

              The ability to forget is important to humans, and a chemically induced ability to remember everything, rather than allowing the psyche to process and to retain memories in its own way, is not necessarily a boost to resilience and to a healthy focus.

              People have evolved to forget a lot of stuff for a reason – and older people may have more time to ponder stuff anyway. The functionality of the intellect has to be considered in the broader context of the healthy ego.

              It may be rash to interfere with the functioning of the brain. One would essentially be experimenting on oneself – though it is up to people what they do. It might be fair to anticipate both ‘good’ and not so ‘good’ results – and such is life.

            • geno mir says:

              I think side effects of herbal potions are the least problem for Norman. Otherwise you are spot on. I like how well prepared you are on variety of topics.

      • Biden is locked into the same circumstance as every other political leader.

        Which is an energy depleted future, with every unpleasantness attached to that.

        Political beliefs have nothing to do with it. Cheap surplus energy has everything to do with it.

        Political leaders promise ‘growth’ because that is what the voters want to hear. Their jobs and wages depend on it. The President’s job depends on it.

        Biden, as far as I know hasn’t promised growth. All his predecessors have. This is perhaps why his words lack substance. There is no substance out there to offer.

        Biden knows real growth is over. If growth is over, so is everything else. Circular economies and ‘degrowth’ cannot work.
        He’s a lifetime politician, He’s trying to hold things together as best he can.

        Personally I’d vote for Jen Psaki as POTUS–but that’s just me having a private fantasy.

        Yes we will bumble on for a few more years, basically freewheeling, but that’s all there is going to be.

        So violent denial of reality is inevitable.
        This is why i persist in OFW–violent denial and ridicule of reality here is a microcosm of everywhere else. I learn a great deal from that.
        I actually care about what happens everywhere else. I don’t fly into a childish rage about it. Or feel the need to pour scorn on those who disagree with me.

        The next stage will possibly be that (in USA and elsewhere) an extreme right
        will arise, in response to the desperation of people seeing their livelihoods evaporate. The vast majority see the problem as political, not energy availability.

        And desperate people will react violently and irrationally to anything that contradicts their certainties. (OFW again?)

        People will believe any promise that reassures BAU.

        It might just be that the next POTUS will be someone who knows his business relative to extremism, rather than the last clown. He will promise BAU forever, but when that is seen to be a self seeking fantasy, violence is certain, and (as I’ve said before) secession is inevitable.

        The USA is too big to hold together without the energy threads that stitch it together. (that also applies to the EU and elsewhere.)

        And I write all this stuff to clarify it in my own mind. I hope I’m wrong.

        • “The USA is too big to hold together without the energy threads that stitch it together. (that also applies to the EU and elsewhere.)”

          I would add that this holds for China as well. It certainly holds for the world economy.

          • my ‘elsewhere’ was meant to say that in the general sense.

            humankind began as shifting tribes, if there’s to be anything left of us, i think that is how we will come to be again

          • Xabier says:

            Historically, great states could fragment, and very little would change locally (apart from increased instability and violence). The masses were not urban, worked the land or the sea, etc.

            But now, with our level of technology, urbanisation, service economies, and huge supply chains, how could the fragments ever function at all?

            ‘All hang together, or all hang separately’ comes to mind…..

            This point has been well made made by Tainter.

        • Tim Groves says:

          Well, I would go with Jen….
          But I’d be thinking of Kayleigh McEnany.

          • no–definately Jen

            my gf (the non-inflatable one) says shes my fantasy POTUS

            actually she’d be damned good at it–but not stupid enough to take the job on

  21. Fast Eddy says:

    Pfizer is now officially asking to vaccinate kids 5-11
    Alex Berenson 7 hr ago
    558
    Based on a clinical trial that SHOWED PRECISELY NO EVIDENCE of actual health benefit for the children who received it.

    In other words, what Pfizer demonstrated in its 2,300-patient child trial is that its mRNA doses can make your kids make spike proteins (and have side effects).

    Per Pfizer’s September 20 press release announcing the trial’s results, the trial didn’t show the vaccine reduced hospitalizations (which are basically non-existent in healthy children) or even mild cases.

    See where the release says the vaccine did anything to help kids stay healthier?

    No? That’s because it doesn’t.

    But it did reveal “side effects generally comparable to those observed in participants 16 to 25 years of age” – in other words, (sometimes severe) headaches, fatigue, and fever. Clinically significant myocarditis? Who knows? With barely 1,000 boys receiving the vaccine, even fairly common side effects could go unnoticed.

    Still, as it warned/promised, Pfizer has now formally asked the Food & Drug Administration to approve (I mean authorize, but let’s not go down that rabbit hole) its Covid shots for the little ones.

    The Pfizer announcement led to some very special bluecheck genius from Matthew “Matty” Yglesias, proud owner of 500,000 Twitter followers and a Substack almost as big as this one.

    The conversation went like this: Maya Sen – a Harvard professor (I won’t judge if you don’t) pointed out the lack of clinical benefit in two words:

    Which led Matty to Mattysplain: https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/pfizer-is-now-officially-asking-to/comments

    • Xabier says:

      As Norman has, quite rightly, been identified as a valuable contributor, perhaps he would like, for once, to address this clear abuse of little children and teenagers (and soon babies!) on the part of Big Pharma – something he has notably evaded for this past year.

      He repeatedly claims that this was mere loony CT: but it IS happening, when there is no good clinical reason to vaccinate the young. Also side-stepping parental protection with the infamous ‘Gillick’ test.

      All experts with integrity agree on this point.

      In fact the case is quite the contrary : the vaccines will certainly injure those who would sail through infection with Covid unharmed.

      As Dr Yeadon says, this is murder.

      The Chief Medical Officer in England is knowingly condoning child murder and abuse, as are his peers in many other countries, and as are Pfizer et al.

      Norman, fancy facing up to some reality?

      • ……>>>>>The Chief Medical Officer in England is knowingly condoning child murder and abuse, as are his peers in many other countries, and as are Pfizer et al. <<<<<<<<

        we had all this last year with Bill Gates adding 'something' to his brand of vaccine, I am also required to believe that vaccines have critters with tentacles in it.

        , now we need a fresh angle

        So we we get the above passed around

        Next you'll be telling me that Hilary Clinton was/is running a babtyselling busiess from the cellars of the White House. This is 'absolute proven truth'.

        Why i feel the need to reply to this is beyond me, (masochism i guess)

        The CMO of the UK is not condoning murder of babies. Please stop being silly. And passing on links from eddy)

        • It certainly would be helpful to know why two different batches of vaccine had critters with tentacles. Also, why a symposium in Germany with respect to the vaccines led to many concerning results. Is the problem more than incredibly poor quality control and vaccine contamination?

          • I would suggest—-and it is only a suggestion, that any 12 yr old in his back bedroom could create ‘slides’ showing vaccines with funny things in them.

            Once stuff like that gets out into the big wide world, just about anyone can take it up as ‘truth’ (As I’ve warned before, social media carries our most dangerous infection)

            On this thread I’ve already researched and posted 3 separate lines of information that expose Dr Yeadon as having some kind of weird approach to all this. No idea what his problem is, but his ‘claims’ are debunked comprehensively, item by item. By people better qualified than me.

            yet time and again Yeadon is upheld as a ‘great authority’ on the subject.
            It would appear that he is no such thing. Yeadon info is freely available for anyone to read.

            well worth a read.

            • Lidia17 says:

              Norm, you are being unfair: intentionally conflating the “weird things in the vax” people with Dr. Yeadon, who has made no such claims. I have watched several of his videos and find nothing untoward about them whatsoever.

              His misgivings seem to be those of any honest scientist, based on the governments’ and the drug companies own proven actions and admissions.

            • Lidia

              when the uk times, jptimes and reuters (and his ex colleagues) all agree that Yeadon has some kind of ulterior motive in all this, i think i can be allowed to be a little suspicious.

              i think we can logically agree that the three sources i used as reference are not in collusion with one another in any respect. They are all respected independent sources.

              I strongly suggest you read the jpTimes link about him.. He seems to have been responsible for setting off the global wacko theory that the vaccine causes infertility in women. It plainly does not.

              So much for being a ‘honest scientist’.

              But of course that fits neatly into the general nonsense about elites wanting to bring about population control and reduction.

              i didn’t intentionally put yeadon in the same reference-basket as the ”critters in the vax fluid’–though it might have come across that way.

              He certainly seems to be a conspiracy merchant., intent on getting his name in the public consciousness…sceptical lil ol me wonders why?
              The ‘retreat’ he’s reputedly setting up for anti-vaxxers?

              No doubt for wealthy people.

            • By the way, I came to a similar conclusion to Yeadon, without ever referencing Yeadon, in my post COVID-19 Vaccines Don’t Really Work as Hoped.

              A person can come to a similar conclusion looking at what happens with Merek’s disease in chickens, or what happens when antibiotics are given at too low a dose in response to bacterial infections. Someone yesterday quoted an a research article associated with AIDs that came to a similar conclusion.

              I see no point in worrying about Yeadon’s credentials or motives. He is simply saying what is obvious in many other ways.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Did I mention Mareks is far more deadly than Ebola…

              https://www.genengnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/fear2.jpg

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Remind us of his ulterior motive norm?

              BTW – Yeadon sold his company for a sum reported to be in the region of 1 billion dollars… so hopefully you don’t suggest he’s getting paid to spout these lies

              How’s the jab norm… feeling ok?

              If you have survived then you’ll want to make your appointment for the 4rth one now to avoid the rush

            • Lidia17 says:

              “I think we can logically agree that [uk times, jptimes and reuters] .. are not in collusion with one another in any respect. They are all respected independent sources.”

              Well, Norman, that’s where I think you’ve missed a step in the Grand Equation. Next you’ll be telling us that Biden and Johnson and Ardern and the dozens of others each came up with the “Build Back Better” slogan on their own, contemporaneously.

              The UK Times is owned by News Corp. (yes, THAT News Corp.), while Reuters has always been a Cabal-linked enterprise.

              Here’s something interesting admitted by Wikipedia about Reuters..

              Funding by the UK Government
              In November 2019 the UK Foreign Office released archive documents confirming that it had provided funding to Reuters during the 1960s and 1970s so that Reuters could expand its coverage in the Middle East. An agreement was made between the Information Research Department (IRD) and Reuters for the UK Treasury to provide £350,000 over 4 years to fund Reuters’ expansion. The UK government had already been funding the Latin American department of Reuters through a shell company; however, this method was discounted for the Middle East operation due to the accounting of the shell company looking suspicious, with the IRD stating that the company “already looks queer to anyone who might wish to investigate why such an inactive and unprofitable company continues to run.”[47] Instead, the BBC was used to fund the project by paying for enhanced subscriptions to the news organisation, for which the Treasury would reimburse the BBC at a later date. The IRD acknowledged that this agreement would not give them editorial control over Reuters, although the IRD believed it would give them political influence over Reuters’ work, stating “this influence would flow, at the top level, from Reuters’ willingness to consult and to listen to views expressed on the results of its work.”[47][48]”

              I don’t know about the Japan Times, owned by the trust-inspiring “News2u” group.

              Ad hominem attacks on the messenger, Yeadon, only call attention to him and to the attackers’ desperation. As Gail points out, what Yeadon says is based on logic that even people of average intelligence can work out for themselves.. it doesn’t require him as an individual except for the fact that, being independently wealthy, he isn’t beholden to any of these other financial and political forces, which is why he must be neutralized.

              I think you are living in a very quaint version of the world where the media is “trustworthy”. That world most likely never existed, as can be easily ascertained from a cursory review of most important world events.

            • Tim Groves says:

              Yes, Lidia, I don’t think Norman is aware of the ownership details of the mainstream media organs he thinks of as independent. The Rockefellers and other Globalists own and control the lot, and they are all filled with the same insipid propaganda these days on such subjects as Globbly-Wobbly, Covidy-Wovidy, Vaxy-Waxy, Trumpy-Wumpy, and Vlad the Impaler.

              The Japan Times long been despised in Japan as a cringe-inducing corporate and internationist paper fit for nothing more than cat litter. But basically any paper with a title ending in “Times” is “with the program”.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              norm is a confused triple-injected old man who is dating a blow up doll who believes humans can travel through intense radiation with zero protection .. land on the moon in a contraption that has panels falling off …

              he is not to be taken serious.. in fact he’s probably stitching us up but even he doesn’t know it because he’s in a permanently BE-fuddled.

              The best approach is to poke fun at norm – arguing with him is like arguing with a small child… it’s a waste of time

            • at least i do not require the scrabble bag of sexual innuendo for any verbal exchanges on OFW, (or anywhere else.)

              You on the other hand, open your limited palette of vocabulary, and we find that is the full extent of the range of discussive intellect. That’s all there is.

              It’s now every reply eddy. Embarrassing. couldn’t you come up with something different?

              My inflatable friend is on her afternoon nap at the moment. (ready for the night shift) I wouldn’t presume to wake her to answer your limp comments. She speaks her mind, she’s made several remarks in that respect already——some words she comes out with are not for polite company.

              let sleeping girls lie is part of my survival/longevity strategy.

              Not triple injected yet–am going to the clinic later this pm

              i shall walk in and smile, and they will smile, because i will not accuse them of being mass murderers or somesuch.

              if i do not check back into ofw later–you will know that they are mass murderers after all. I imagine my body will get lots of bids for medical science though

        • Xabier says:

          Not good enough, Norman.

          ‘Murder’ is the considered opinion of Dr Yeadon, although I do endorse it.

          Prof Whitty could find no clinical reason to inject children, but still over-ruled the Committee on Vaccinations, falling back on weak arguments about vaccination making them feel better, after all the quarantines, masks etc.

          This is a crime and a disgrace!

          It is not to be conflated in a puerile way with rumours about the Clintons, and you should be ashamed of doing so.

          Cheap rhetoric, no more.

          • we can discuss the pros and cons of injecting children, but the CMO of UK murdering them certainly takes us into Qanon territory

            I took the trouble to check out Yeadon

            this is Reuters report on him:

            https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-health-coronavirus-idUSL2N2N72CS

            or this, (different source):

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YAmFmMGVPI

            or this, (different source again)

            https://www.thejournal.ie/debunked-mike-yeadon-pfizer-covid-19-vaccines-5447489-May2021/

            I don’t know what his problem is, but he certainly seems to have one.

            >>>>>>Some posts on social media occasionally misstate Yeadon’s role at Pfizer, appearing to give him more prominence at the company than he actually had.
            A claim by him that was debunked by The Journal in December referred to him as a former vice president of the company. However, he was a former vice president in Pfizer’s allergy and respiratory research division only.<<<<<<<<

            • Tim Groves says:

              Norman, you haven’t debunked anything. You’ve merely repeated, reposted and spread smears. People who go against the prevailing agenda are invariably smeared, and with the Covid agenda being so essential to the forces implementing it, anyone going against it can count themselves lucky if they merely get their reputation trashed and are not physically nailed to a cross.

              This is a classic propaganda technique. Attack the reputation of a dissenter rather than address the points of distention. So this guy Yeadon wasn’t really a vice president at Pfizer; he was merely a Vice President at Pfizer, so let’s ignore everything he says. While Malone wasn’t the inventor of mRNA technology, he merely played a role in inventing mRNA technology, so we can stick our fingers in our ears and not listen to a word he says about the dangers of the technology he had a hand in inventing. As for Montagnier, he might have been Nobel Laureate material back in the last century wen he discovered HIV, but he’s a senile old fart now—even older than Norman Paget—who doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

              Yes, Norman, we all know how this disgusting game is played. As an evolutionary biologist specializing in zoological classification on my weekends, I rank the smear artist as one of the very lowest forms of animal life, a creature totally without shame and absolutely beneath contempt.

            • i reposted other material yes—one always extracts from elsewhere, i selected 3 from reputable sources, there were many others. they were not journals that no has ever heard of.

              but the third one was i thought particularly comprehensive

              Yeadon left Pzizer in 2011, he was vp of an unrelated division, not pfizer itself

              every one of his claims was dealt with, in detail.—- this was not smearing. I do not smear, or at least do not intend to, sometimes it may appear that way. that is inevitable.
              If i can quote sources i do so.

              this is another one, from the Times, which puts another and entirely different slant on it.:

              https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/mike-yeadon-antivaxer-with-eye-on-lib-dems-plans-resort-for-unjabbed-lp0vw92dt

              it would appear that Yeadon is trying to get himself into public awareness

              Then there’s:

              https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2021/03/20/world/science-health-world/pfizer-employee-anti-vaxxer-covid/
              This one warns of causing infertility in women.
              I strongly recommend you read the jpnews one.

              >>>>>>“These claims are false, dangerous and deeply irresponsible,” said a spokesman for Britain’s Department of Health & Social Care, when asked about Yeadon’s views. “COVID-19 vaccines are the best way to protect people from coronavirus and will save thousands of lives.”<<<>>>>What gives Yeadon particular credibility is the fact that he worked at Pfizer, says Imran Ahmed, chief executive of the Center for Countering Digital Hate, an organization that combats online misinformation. “Yeadon’s background gives his dangerous and harmful messages false credibility.”<<<<>>>>Earlier this year, a group of Yeadon’s former Pfizer colleagues expressed their concern in a private letter, according to a draft reviewed by Reuters.

              “We have become acutely aware of your views on COVID-19 over the last few months … the single mindedness, lack of scientific rigour and one sided interpretation of often poor quality data is far removed from the Mike Yeadon we so respected and enjoyed working with.”

              Noting his “vast following on social media” and that his claim about infertility “has spread globally,” the group wrote, “We are very worried that you are putting people’s health at risk.”<<<<<<<
              ————-

              there's five sources to being going on with Tim..might just be malicious gossip of course, but i somehow doubt it.

              Is that enough?

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Not enough… can you get us the CNN version – and while you are at it … Snopes is always a good one… I’d like some Snopes fact-check info before I make up my mind

            • Xabier says:

              Yes, Norman which is why Dr Yeadon was especially interested in the ‘respiratory disease’ Covid when it broke upon us. It’s his field.

              What a pathetic list of smears: but revealing – you actually believe the slanderers and ‘fact-checkers’!

              All is now clear.

              Let’s also take Malone: he is always very reasonable, and even (just) advocates some limited use of the vaccines, and is therefore attacked by some die-hard anti-vaxxers.

              But he is against universal mandates of not very safe novel therapies, the assault on our human and civil rights, the suppression of medical and academic dissent from the narrative, and heavy-handed censorship: and so he is slandered.

              Even poor, timid, Byram Bridle was dealt this treatment merely for pointing out the escape of the vaxxes from the shoulder region and the danger this poses. Not a publicity hound, but martyred jut the same -for doing his duty to us all!

              In intellect and, more importantly, character these people are miles above you.

              Just like the humble physicians who speak up: those who take their Hippocratic Oath seriously, and still follow scientific precepts, and not ‘The Science’ (TM).

            • Xabier says:

              Wow, Norman, you have plunged even lower than I suspected possible: you also seem to implicitly believe the platitudes of a spokesperson from a UK government department, and the ‘Digital Hate Centre’?!

              Truly infantile credulity: to live so long and know nothing of the world is rather sad.

              But there are I suppose tens, even hundreds of millions like you – and that is alarming!

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Billions… nearly 8B to be precise.

            • xabier—I posted reference to 5 distinct debunkers of Yeadon, plus his own ex colleagues

              You didn’t mention the UK times, the Times of Japan or Reuters. There were many others.

              all reasonable sources I would have thought.

              Now why was that?

              Yeadon, it would seem has set in motion a ‘retreat’ for (obviously wealthy) anti vaxxers

              https://www.cityam.com/anti-vaxx-island-ex-pfizer-exec-behind-infertility-claims-to-build-zanzibar-resort-for-conspiracy-theorists/

              Now why dyou think he’s done that?
              Profiting from the gullible.? Oh surely not? A man of such integrity could not possibly have ulterior motives of that nature.
              Could be he’s going to invite poor people as well?

              Forgive my cynicism.

              Do you that eddy and yourself might get an invite to go there—as an entertainment double act perhaps?

            • you’re getting closer to comment parity eddy

              soon OFW will be your perfect residence.

              no one to argue with you

              just an echo chamber.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Not quite… I can still hear the voices of MOREONS shouting inanities from under their rocks.

    • Xabier says:

      Dr Yeadon has called the very limited and rushed trials for children ‘statistically under-powered’.

      ie Designed, one suspects, NOT to show up any fatal issues rather than identify them.

    • Lidia17 says:

      Are they asking to jab kids with the current formulation or the Comirnity unobtanium?

  22. Fast Eddy says:

    Rolling Stone’s botched ivermectin story raises questions about what is misinformation

    https://firstdraftnews.org/articles/rolling-stones-botched-ivermectin-story-raises-questions-about-the-nature-of-misinformation/

    In spite of this the CovIDIOTS and MOREONS continue to claim the MSM is not lying to them about covid or the injections.

    The completely fabricating this entire story … completely … it has ZERO basis…. yet it was spread far and wide….

    DUH.

  23. Fast Eddy says:

    More than half of Army reservists have not received even a single Covid vaccine dose

    And unvaccinated reservists face no discipline until next July, far later than employees of private companies

    https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/more-than-half-of-army-reservists

    One wonders what the real vaxx rates are in the general population … maybe the free burgers and music are not as enticing as we are lead to believe?

  24. Gerard d'Olivat says:

    Hello Gail …Just to refer to a previous article of yours about taxing energy as a necessary condition for complex societies to maintain their systems you now see the opposite happening.

    1. In France there are increasing calls to lower the VAT rate on energy to the lowest level, something like 5%. That will indeed make a direct difference in the ‘purchasing power’ of the average Frenchman (read mm EU citizen, it is a ‘panacea’ heard in many countries).
    The reasoning is that the state benefits disproportionately from rising energy prices due to high tax rates. In itself a simple calculation. It would directly save the French citizen about 3 to 400 euros per year.

    2. What ‘citizens’ and who? , do not realize is that the price of energy ‘trickles down’ into all sectors of our modern complex society.
    From schools to hospitals to the baker’s bread. At the time of the ‘yellow jacket’ crisis, perhaps also triggered by energy prices, the price of bread from my baker suddenly rose from 5 euros per kilo to 6 euros.
    |Because I know my baker well, I asked him the reason. It was very simple, of course, but very problematic. The reason was quickly formulated: rising transport and production costs. Energy costs are costs that can never be compensated by any ‘tax measure’ whatsoever.
    They are politically cosmetic measures that mask the energy problem and the rapidly rising inflation/stagflation that benefits no one, least of all governments.

    3. A third issue that plays out in many European (American?) cities is the so-called Detroit syndrome. I know the city well from the days when the city had just gone bankrupt. Cities that go bankrupt due to economic setbacks and the collapse of the networks that should keep the cities livable. You could sum it up under the heading of maintenance costs.
    The debts in a city like Paris, for example, have increased in recent years by some 600%. Every inhabitant of the center of the city, which has now been transformed into a ghetto for the rich through gentrification, now has a debt of about 10,000 euros.
    The chronic deficits of the ‘city transport, the metro and the buses’ have now risen to 2 billion a year and can no longer be paid by either the city or the ‘transport company’.
    The bill is now passed on to the state, which of course cannot afford to let the public transport system in Paris go bankrupt. It is the same for several EU capitals such as Rome and Amsterdam. For Paris, there is an additional requirement to host the Olympic Games in 2024….

    4. In this sense, “sovereign debts” are only the tip of the iceberg. Deficits at the regional and local level have a much more direct impact on everyone’s life, as do the deficits in health care and social insurance, which play a major role in Europe than in the US.

    • Thanks! We really do need to be able to tax the sources of energy that we have. If they are not cheap to produce, nothing will operate.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Point 2.

      The MSM writes about the impact of quadrupling gas prices on the power bill each month … but of course everyone’s power bill is increasing including that of businesses…. and that either crushes their margins or – if they can get away with it (or have no choice) they pass on the costs in the form of higher prices….

      Throw in high priced oil and you’ve got a perfect storm of inflation building

      Governments will attempt to offset these costs with increasingly desperate stimulus including subsidies and tax breaks … but at some point it breaks down

    • postkey says:

      “SEEDS analysis indicates that taxation absorbed 67% of French prosperity last year, compared with 53% back in 2004. For the average French citizen, this means that a comparatively modest decline of 6.2% (€1,910) in his or her overall prosperity has been exacerbated by a €3,010 increase in taxation, leaving disposable (“left in your pocket”) prosperity 34% (€4,920) lower in 2019 than it was in 2004.”
      https://surplusenergyeconomics.wordpress.com/

  25. jj says:

    Weekly deaths from covid per million people.

    India
    Ivermectin
    1.29

    USA
    Experimental gene therapy “vaccine”
    36.39

    28x deaths in USA

    12000 deaths last week USA

    12000/ 28 =428

    12000 – 428 = 11,572

    11572/7 = 1653

    1653 needless gruesome deaths a day in USA caused by supression of ivermectin in order to allow experimental gene therapy “vaccine”.

    https://ourworldindata.org/covid-deaths?country=~IND#weekly-and-biweekly-deaths-where-are-confirmed-deaths-increasing-or-falling

    • Strange world we live in.

    • Tim Groves says:

      Your arithmetic is faultless, but you haven’t factored in the enormous amount of curry consumed in India, or the enormous amount of corn syrup consumed in the USA.

      • jj says:

        Of course there are huge other factors. Consider that most indians in their daily lives are much much closer in proximity to each other than the USA. The level of proximity that people are used to in India is considered very intrusive in the USA. India provides a near perfect environment for airborne viruses to spread. This would support the above numbers and mean ivermectin could possibly lower deaths even more than India in the USA.

        The practice of calling any death that they can get to test positive or even just check the box a covid death inflates the covid death numbers in the USA. I strongly believe covid is quite real and quite dangerous. There is however strong financial and social pressure on our medical institutions to check the covid box. This would mean that Ivermectin would be less effective than the above numbers because Ivermectin can not effect death rates other than covid..

        None the less I feel its safe to say that the suppression of Ivermectin in order to allow the false legality of the experimental gene therapy “vaccines” in concert with the practice of intubation is killing around 1500 people each and every day. This to my mind is a quite horrible death. Ive spent enough time in ICUs to decide a long long time ago that i was not going to go out with tubes and machines intruding into my body so I may well be biased.

        I posted these numbers not to be absolutely correct but to demonstrate that the suppression of ivermectin causes great suffering amonst the 1500 who die. We all are going to die some day. It may even be that system collapse makes unpleasant deaths quite common. Right now however the norm is that there are 1500 horrible deaths a day occuring that could be stopped by means of a very safe medication and we are not doing so.

        It easy to look at Indias death rate of 1.3 and USAs death rate of 36 in a detached way. That that difference is so large considering the relative wealth of the countries is in itself quite amazing. The reality is that the suppression of ivermectin is not abstract at all for the 1500 people that will die from it today with their lung tissue ravaged, a tube down their throat, and thankfully sedated.

        You could hear the reality of the situation when dr Pierre Kory testified to the senate. His testimony was accurate and concise as he begged for the clinical studies to be considered but he was also pleading. You see he has to go in and watch those people die horrible deaths every day when he knows Ivermectin could stop it. Its not a abstract for him. This is his life, his profession as a healer turned into a living hell.

        Every country has its little secrets and the USA is certainly has more than its share. The suppression of Ivermectin is not a little secret. It a 800lb gorilla taking a dump on the kitchen table 1500 times a day that we are ignoring. That seems not right to me. I dont know why exactly but it effects me. I dont expect things to change. Im safe i have my horse paste. I feel guilty about that. Why am i safe when others are at risk? Its also quite the dilemma. Not a single one of my friends and acquaintances would consider ingesting horse paste and that includes my current romance who is “fully vaccinated”. Many of them are aware of what is going on but they consider ingesting horse paste demeaning and wierd. For them the numbers are a abstract.

        Ive worked with numbers my whole life. No im not a top tier guy not even close but i believe that we understand relationships and numbers represent a reality. I have many times both in my professional and personal life come to a understanding of how something works as represented by numbers and it has enabled me to create outcomes that are favorable.

        When I see a 28x difference in between the death rates of India and the USA it effects me. Its that little word out front “death”. Were not talking about the price of tea in China. I know deeply what those numbers mean but obviously not as deeply as our front line responders like Dr. Pierre Kory.

        • Lidia17 says:

          Thanks, jj. +++++
          It’s also a strange feeling to understand all of this, and yet be regarded by the vaxxers as an existential threat, as though we are the ones doing the killing!

  26. jj says:

    Robert Firth. miss your posts. Hope you are well.

    • Harry McGibbs says:

      I likewise wondered where the very erudite Robert had gone. If you are reading this, Robert, I hope life is treating you kindly.

    • JMS says:

      I’ve been wondering about him too. It’s funny the way OFW commentators come and go, some never to return. What has become of Greg Machala also, who for a long time has commented assiduously and intelligently here?

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Yes Greg was a valuable contributor…

        But then so are norm mike and dunc…. they are the butts of endless jokes…. it would be boring without them….

    • His pro-UK ultranationalist posts seemed to be more funny as UK is entering into a deeper shit.

    • Minority Of One says:

      Bad news. Really bad news.

      https://funeral-notices.co.uk/notice/FIRTH/4971546

      Dr Robert J.FIRTH
      We sadly announce the passing of our loving father, Dr. Robert John Firth, a graduate of Cambridge and Oxford Universities. He most recently worked as a senior lecturer for the National University of Singapore until his retirement in 2018. He then resided in Malta until his unexpected death while travelling to Cambridge on 15th July, 2021.

      • Sad. He was true erudite.

      • Slow Paul says:

        Rest in peace. He was a remarkable commenter. I’m very glad he shared his knowledge of history and experience of the world with us.

      • Malcopian says:

        Thank you, Minority Of One. I had recently been thinking that that might be the case. R.I.P. Robert.

      • At least he won’t see further horrors to occur in UK

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Very sad news indeed… I was wondering why he had disappeared from OFW…… a great intellectual warrior has fallen….

        I wonder if his final thoughts were — damn — I don’t get to see how it ends.

        Maybe he’s having a pint with the people who have been playing the virtual reality game?

        https://i.pinimg.com/originals/59/c2/56/59c256bf8a36d44a90bc39a5045416da.jpg

      • jj says:

        It was a privilege to have the interaction of a individual that educated and that honest. His contribution was unequalled in its richness. RIP Robert. Your missed.

      • Very sad!

      • JMS says:

        Sad to hear this.
        A little candle in honor of Robert Firth, who among other virtues (intellectual courage, intelligence, knowledge, etc.) had a taste for epigrammatic poetry:

        On His Seventy-Fifth Birthday
        by Walter Savage Landor

        I strove with none, for none was worth my strife;
        Nature I loved, and next to Nature, Art;
        I warmed both hands before the fire of Life;
        It sinks, and I am ready to depart.

        • JMS says:

          Forgot to mention that this beautiful poem was brought to my attention by Mr. First. Zeus bless him.

        • Xabier says:

          Robert would have appreciated those verses by Landor, I am quite sure!

          I hope it was sudden and painless, sounds as though that may be the case, a ‘sudden and unexpected’ death.

          RIP.

        • Minority of One says:

          What an appropriate epitaph. These are my favourite words posted by Robert (he posted them here earlier this year).

      • DB says:

        Thank you, Minority of One. I, too, have missed his comments. I learned a lot from Robert. It seemed he lived a full life and never wasted a day. A good example for us all to follow.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          In memory of Robert Firth — who was a Great Destroyer of MOREONS…. I hereby declare every day Robert Firth day and URGE everyone to carry on the fight…

          Kill the MOREONS Bash their Heads – do them IN
          Kill the MOREONS Bash their Heads – do them IN
          Kill the MOREONS Bash their Heads – do them IN
          Kill the MOREONS Bash their Heads – do them IN
          Kill the MOREONS Bash their Heads – do them IN

          https://assets.rbl.ms/17215648/origin.jpg

          Had a couple of handles with me mate … he’s had the first jab but has come to his senses and says what’s the point – it don’t stop me from getting it… also his daughter has been seriously ill and off school the whole week after jab 2.

          F789 the Jab.

      • Sad news, thanks for reporting.

        ps travelling from Malta to Cambridge assuming admission to airplane travel.. right..

      • that is very sad

        he had an all encompassing mind

        I’d noticed his absence, I put it down to disappearing for a while as we are all wont to do

        so sorry to hear that.

      • Kowalainen says:

        I was thinking about where Robert were. I guess we now know. Vila i frid broder.

        😢

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Notice how norm and dunc have not commented on this…

          I suppose they are thinking of their own mortality … and what their epitaphs on OFW would look like…

          They were delusional old goats but they did provide us with endless fodder to make fun of… and in that respect they will be sorely missed … but fortunately we still have mike so life goes on ….

      • Tim Groves says:

        Thanks for being the bearer of this unwelcome news, Minority of One. I’m saddened by Robert’s death. He seemed such a civilized and decent soul and a proper academic. In Robert, I could sense the genuine real person behind the online presence.

        But he wasn’t exactly old: 18/04/1945 – 15/07/2021 (Age 76).

        And his death was described as being unexpected and sudden, while traveling to Cambridge. It’s the kind of incident that would peek the attention of Sherlock Holmes or Hercule Poirot.

        I know there are footpads and highwaymen abroad and waiting to waylay unwary travelers down the turnpike to Cambridge. And it isn’t beyond the bounds of possibility that Robert was poisoned by a British Rail sandwich or strangled for misgendering somebody.

        However, it strikes me as much more likely that Robert was yet another victim of the vax. In order to travel from Malta to the UK in the summer of 2021, he would have needed to have been vaccinated. And depending on the general state of his health, the level of inflammation his body was experiencing prior to being jabbed, and how close to a major blood vessel the needle pierced, one or two jabs might have been enough to trigger enough clotting to have given him a stroke or a heart attack.

        I don’t suppose we’ll ever know for sure, but in the absence of more concrete information, I think we can put this down to a probable adverse vaccine reaction.

        • Xabier says:

          It’s rather awful, Tim, as Robert always gave the impression of being very happy in Malta.

          Telegraph the foreign gentleman with a curious waxed moustache and impeccable dress!

        • DB says:

          Excellent conjecture, Tim. I bet he resented it a lot.

          I have a friend about the same age as Robert was who made a similar decision — got the jab so he could visit his grandchildren in another country. He is vigorously opposed to the jab, but got it nonetheless. And I can’t blame him for doing it. I might do the same myself if I thought it was the last chance in my life to see loved ones. A sort of suicide mission … Although my friend has declined in some ways since the jab, he’s still alive fortunately.

      • Christopher says:

        I always enjoyed reading his comments. He seemed to have been reading everything of value. He combined this with a stoic wisdom and a capacity, to without prestige, admit the rare errors of his thought.

        Vila i frid Robert.

  27. Henrik says:

    Thanks Harry for posting news from around the world every day. Not sure if you have posted anything frpm Argentina lately but Argentina is not doing well: Foreign investors are shunning Argentina, as the country faces its worst economic crisis in two decades, business confidence hits rock bottom and hyperinflation becomes a possibility https://investmentmonitor.ai/analysis/hyperinflation-political-instability-falling-fdi-argentinas-crying-shame

    • Harry McGibbs says:

      Thanks, Henrik! Poor Argentina was already in terrible shape before the pandemic.

  28. Mirror on the wall says:

    The EU position on the NI Protocol does not seem to have shifted. It remains, “You get on with implementing it, and then we will see what might be done to ease flows a bit.” The Tories have taken a stance of, “Give us what we want, do not retaliate or we will show you retaliation, your time is running out.” The EU has responded with, “Whatever, you get on with it.” Bizarrely, the DUP is boasting today that the NIP has been “breached” – whatever.

    ‘Discussions’ are to intensify over the next couple of months before a ‘big bust up’ or a ‘kiss and make up.’

    > ‘No renegotiation of the NI Protocol’ – EU Brexit chief

    The EU’s Brexit negotiator has told a seminar in Dublin that there will be no renegotiation of the Northern Ireland Protocol and that the EU will not accept any solution that will cut the region off from the benefits of the single market.

    Speaking to the Institute of International and European Affairs (IIEA) today, Maroš Šefčovič said the EU would continue to work to find practical solutions to make the protocol “work on the ground”. However, Mr Šefčovič also said the EU would never be able to remove the obstacles of Brexit entirely because of Great Britain’s decision to leave the union. He said recent threats concerning the triggering of Article 16 were “not helpful”, describing such talk “as a distraction”.

    In response to questions concerning the UK threats to trigger Article 16, he said he hoped “we would not go down that road” but added that if it was triggered, the EU “will not hesitate to use all options available” to protect EU interests.

    Asked what it would take for the EU to reduce some of the checks on these goods, Mr Šefčovič VP said he would need real time access to the IT data bases. He said this issue had been discussed since the summer of 2020 and that just last week, he had received “additional” information from Mr Frost on the infrastructure being built and the access which will be granted to EU experts. Mr Šefčovič said a “step by step” approach was getting both parties where they needed to be.

    He said once an acceptable system was in place, the EU could look “creatively” on what can be done to reduce such checks.

  29. jj says:

    Many people are calling for imprisonment of the creators and financiers of covid. I dont think thats fair or appropriate. Nerds will be nerds. The gain of function research was encouraged by the culture and financing of the paradigm. Its not fair to have a culture that rewards talented minds financially and with paradigm kudos to then turn around and throw them in prison.

    Does it show a lack of common sense to routinely create deadly pathogens on the premise they will never escape the laboratory? Absolutely. Brilliant minds tend to be focused in their world.

    Whats important is not to penalize those that showed a incredible lack of common sense but to change the culture so that those involved in research, and the financing of research, understand that creating deadly pathogens is not ok. Without that occurring the covid pandemic will serve only to reinforce that gain of function research is ok and probable releases of new lab created pathogens. Its time for worldwide clear definitions about what is and is not appropriate research and going forward those breaking the rules should absolutely face penalties.

    • Or more likely such class will launch a systemic cleansing of the world, shedding no less than 7 billion.

      They will be extremely fierce defending themselves, with no concern about others.

      • Sam says:

        Or they will realize how soft they really are without all the accoutrements of energy and they will die😂. Or they will have built their maginout line that will collapse too🤦‍♂️… you must have a lot of money Mr. Howell maybe you can hire the skipper and Gilligan to run your castle

    • doomphd says:

      I think you are being far too kind to them (Fauci et al.). They knew better than most what the risks were. And, they have benefitted financially from their work, especially the rushed vaccines and now treatments, with suppression of non-profit making alternatives and censorship. This is classic fascism, where a private industry colludes with their government for profit. To set examples for the future, they need to punish those from the top down, ala Nuremberg trials. If they are let off the hook, we guarantee the recent history will repeat itself.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        I am thinking … there’s not much chance of Nuremberg happening …

        Even if the is not the CEP or the CEP fails…. every country on the planet is complicit — every leader is pushing the injections…

        We’d run out of rope….

        • Sam says:

          I have a friend who has gotten rich in these days…he thinks that a lot of the population will be wiped out and he and his family will live in the lap of luxury for the rest of his days! It is like the people who think we can have solar panels and windmills and electric everything ! They only work on half of the equation….

      • Xabier says:

        The Nuremberg Code hasn’t stopped any of this happening: it’s being torn up everywhere!

        As useless as the resolutions of the Council of Europe against coerced vaccination.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          It amuses me that the German lawyer believe that Rule of Law will save the day…. Didn’t Yeadon also try to use the courts to try to stop the vaccine roll out in the US….

          The only difference between this and an overt totalitarian regime is that governments continue with the pretence that the courts still follow rule of law … and will hear the cases… but will always side with the government…

          In the rare instances where they don’t – here in NZ a barrister won a case limiting emergency authorization for the vaccines — the government responded with changing the law….

          Make no mistake — governments are on a war footing — Rule of Law has been binned… and if the opposition eventually works this out … and turns to violence… then we will see the true nature of what is backing the CEP.

          This is not a joke…. they are not paper tigers… everything is at stake … they do not want 8B people ripping faces off when the energy situation – which is teetering – tips over.

          And they will rip a few faces off to ensure that outcome is avoided

      • Lidia17 says:

        Fauci is a serial offender in this space, with the deadly AZT and the deadly Swine Flu vax already under his belt. I’ve said before that I think he’s got Munchausen’s-by-Proxy: makes people even sicker so he can be seen “saving” them with his tender ministrations. He really is a “Dr. Death”.

    • metro70 says:

      JJ:

      All of that had already been done.

      During the Obama Administration the NIH [in consultation with the rest of the world’s heath orgs I think]..banned ‘gain of function’ research….but the Baric Lab at North Carolina University asked for and were granted …special dispensation to complete a gain-of-function project they were in the middle of at the time of the ban.

      The bat researcher Shi Zhengli was involved with that project and later took it to Wuhan.

      I believe there had been much resistance in France to their agreement to build the Wuhan lab in the first place because of China’s record of leaks etc…but they went ahead of course and tried to mitigate the danger by securing an agreement to have its ongoing operations overseen by French scientists…who were then kicked out by the PLA when they took it over once they’d made use of the French expertise.

      It seems that none of it could have happened without Fauci having greenlighted it…and it seems that Fauci must have known the exact nature of the virus …must have known it could hardly have been more targeted to human receptors in multiple organs for maximum virulence and transmissability ….at the moment when he told Americans and the world that they shouldn’t worry about the virus any more than they worry about flu…and he criticised Trump for shutting down flights from China etc.

      You are right about changing the culture and the financing of research but that was actually done …it’s just that one man had….and still has …the power and the hubris and narcissism to think that he had a divine right to flout the rules …even though he knew millions of lives worldwide were at risk.

      And the fact that he’s still in that position and totally unrepentant …..triumphant even in his rock star status conferred by the maniacal Left….means the lessons haven’t been learnt.

      IMO the deification of Fauci….his elevation in spite of his reported implication even in the funding of the Wuhan lab….his arrogance and insolence before Congress…are all emblematic of the Left’s abject contempt for truth..science and human decency if those concepts happen to get in the way of the Left’s agenda…and yet they demand the world be rejigged …countries be destroyed…conflict risked…the future under a shroud on the basis of their claims that we’re required to take on face value…with no proof…no evidence…claims that their word is the last word on CAGW….renewable energy….and ‘the planet’.

      Almost everything that’s known about this virus now …the Baric Lab /Zhengli connection etc was up on the internet at Harvard to the Big House back at the start.. in February 2020.

  30. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Lebanon’s telecoms sector days from collapse as fuel crisis deepens.

    “The worsening financial crisis in Lebanon has made diesel scarce – so much so that state-run network operators may soon have to shut down.”

    https://www.totaltele.com/511222/Lebanons-telecoms-sector-days-from-collapse-as-fuel-crisis-deepens

    • Harry McGibbs says:

      “Short of cash and dreams, Afghan businesses readjust to Taliban rule…

      “Foreign aid, which accounted for more than 40 per cent of gross domestic product, has vanished. The freezing by the US of $9.5bn in currency reserves took away the central bank’s ability to supply cash to the economy or defend the value of the afghani…”

      https://www.ft.com/content/299a2c04-fee2-4d39-9ab4-7a7c8fd9c801

    • This would include internet, I am certain, and perhaps also radio and television broadcasting. We wouldn’t get much news from Lebanon then. Businesses would have a much harder time communicating with their customers.

      Cuba had close to no internet when my husband and I visited there a few years ago.

      Keeping up all of these systems in good operating order becomes a problem when they frequently need replacement parts, besides needing electricity.

      • Dennis L. says:

        Have considered purchasing a good, early 1970s VW square back.

        Power windows -no
        engine computer – no – replaced with carburetors
        power steering – no
        power brakes -no
        entertainment system – AM radio
        power seat – no
        top speed – maybe 90 mph, a calendar used to time acceleration.

        Sale price ranges from $9K to over $20K, new about $3K, wish I had my 73 in the barn.

        Dennis L.

        • jj says:

          The supply chains drop the older parts first. VW has a great deal of parts but you never know. Worth evaluating The machinests I know are swamped making spare parts for all parts of industry and agriculture. You cant machine ball bearings.

          Bug not square back.

        • geno mir says:

          Something i agree with you Dennis L. I also keep my old full analog WV Passat combi in operational status.

        • Rodster says:

          I owned a 1973 VW Fastback. I bought it used and it was one of if not the worse car i’ve ever owned. I used to kid about the coming equipped with fuel infection. That always needed constant repairs. It was even more unreliable than my 1974 Ford Pinto.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        And wifi is incredibly expensive in Cuba …

        Didn’t enjoy Cuba at all — except for the Tropicana Show … I casually asked a cab driver afterwards (as I was with M Fast) phrasing it as a joke ‘I bet those girls are the mistresses of the big shot government officials eh?’ And he said ‘oh yes of course’… (file that away in the ‘you never know options’ folder)…

        https://youtu.be/G03Psy7OPCI

    • Fast Eddy says:

      I am amazed at the resilience of Lebanon — they keep on ticking…

      Please let us know when the telecoms stop.

      The collapse will not be televised .. I take it

      If you think about it… if Lebanon went full Ripping of Faces… and the internet, communication and broadcast facilities were turned off…. and the MSM outside the country refused to cover this ….nobody would know…. there’d be rumours of course… but dismissed as conspiracies

  31. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Public discontent, defined as the collective feeling of frustration and unmet expectations, has risen globally, despite improvements in overall wealth. The same is true for Africa…

    “According to a recent Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development study, this paradox can be explained by the disparate distribution of resources, widening inequality and systemic relative deprivation among various groups of people. COVID-19 has exacerbated these hardships and frustrations.”

    https://issafrica.org/iss-today/africas-rise-in-protests-is-about-more-than-macroeconomics

  32. Harry McGibbs says:

    “US government bond specialists are starting to fret over how the world’s most important market will cope when the Federal Reserve pulls back its pandemic-era support…

    “The Treasury market system “is primed so that high-frequency traders and primary dealers pull back when there are problems”, said Yesha Yadav, a professor at Vanderbilt Law School in Nashville who studies Treasury market structure and regulation.

    ““The way this is set up is designed to fail. It is exceptionally fragile,” Yadav said.”

    https://www.ft.com/content/dc916fa5-6b7b-420b-9117-5123ef707356

  33. Harry McGibbs says:

    “The Evergrande crisis has some Chinese millennials ‘doom-scrolling’ about financial collapse and questioning whether they’ll ever be able to buy their own homes…

    “There are more than 400 million millennials amid China’s population of 1.3 billion people. Many of them rely on incurring debt to enter the housing market. A basic apartment in a major “tier one” city like Beijing can cost as much as $1 million…”

    https://www.insider.com/evergrandes-impending-collapse-forcing-chinese-millennials-reconsider-life-plans-2021-10

    • Harry McGibbs says:

      “China’s property crisis is a symptom of its soaring inequality…

      “The Chinese government has tolerated a widening gap between rich and poor as a price worth paying for economic growth. But more recently, and most clearly in a speech made by President Xi in August, it has changed its tune.”

      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2021/10/07/chinas-property-crisis-symptom-soaring-inequality/

      • Harry McGibbs says:

        “In Depth: China’s Consumer Spending May Suffer ‘Long Covid’ Contraction… economists are saying that despite the post-epidemic recovery in China, less spending by consumers and the knock-on economic impact may be around for the long haul.

        “An increasingly familiar cycle of new outbreaks of Covid-19 across the country, followed by tough lockdowns and other travel restrictions, has slowed the gathering pace of a post-pandemic recovery and entrenched a feeling of caution among China’s consumers, whose spending accounted for 38% of the nation’s GDP last year.”

        https://www.caixinglobal.com/2021-10-07/in-depth-chinas-consumer-spending-may-suffer-long-covid-contraction-economists-warn-101783715.html

      • Real problem: too much complexity and far too much debt. It has become necessary to work around problems with more complexity and more debt. China really needs vastly more cheap to produce energy (coal and gas, perhaps oil too.).

    • MonkeyBusiness says:

      It’s not a very good article. The way things are done in China is often different from the United States and other countries. For example: in China parents would often help out when buying real estate i.e. parents would either pony up the downpayment or they’ll buy an apartment outright for their child. This is because the marriage market is so competitive, as in if you don’t have an apartment, you’ll lose out to someone with one. That’s one outcome from a gender imbalance within China’s population.

      In other words, what millennials think about the property market in China does not really matter. Sure there’s going to be a couple here and there who will need to put up their own money to buy real estate, but the opinion of the older generation matters more.

      • I am sure that rich parents will help their children. Poor parents cannot.

        The rising property market has made quite a few parents look rich. If the price bubble pops, many of these parents won’t be rich, either.

        • Dennis L. says:

          Definition of middle class: can fly first class, flying economy means not middle class.

          Dennis L.

        • MonkeyBusiness says:

          Not true. Middle class parents will help their children too. Family ties are much stronger in China.

      • Dennis L. says:

        Thus it has always bin, the male needs to be very successful to find a good mate, they are few and far between.

  34. Harry McGibbs says:

    “‘Containergeddon’: Supply chain crisis drives Walmart and rivals to charter their own ships…

    “The aim is to bypass log-jammed ports and secure scarce ship space at a time when COVID-19, as well as U.S.-China trade ructions, equipment shortages and extreme weather, have exposed the fragility of the globe-spanning supply lines we use for everything from food and fashion to drinks and diapers.”

    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/international-business/us-business/article-containergeddon-supply-chain-crisis-drives-walmart-and-rivals-to/

    • Harry McGibbs says:

      “The screwed-up supply chain may have caused California oil spill disaster.

      “The gridlock of massive container ships outside the United States’ two busiest ports in Southern California has been blamed for all types of things… Now it may have been the cause of a major oil spill off the coast of Orange County, California.”

      https://edition.cnn.com/2021/10/06/business/oil-spill-container-ship-congestion-supply-chain-problem/index.html

      • Speculation:

        When asked at a briefing Tuesday about speculation that a container ship’s anchor was the cause of the break, US Coast Guard Capt. Rebecca Ore said there is no confirmation of a vessel above the site of the spill, but the response team is working with other agencies in parallel investigation to determine whether a ship was in the area.

        Officials said even with the congestion in the area the ships should have been able to avoid the pipeline. Ships should only drop anchor in designated areas and the pipelines are clearly indicated on nautical maps, said Coast Guard Petty Officer Steve Strohmaier.

  35. Harry McGibbs says:

    “The world economy’s shortage problem…

    “Around the world, economic nationalism is contributing to the shortage economy… This week Joe Biden’s administration confirmed that it would keep Donald Trump’s tariffs on China… Britain’s lack of lorry drivers has been exacerbated by Brexit. India has a coal shortage in part because of a misguided attempt to cut imports of fuel.”

    https://www.economist.com/leaders/2021/10/09/the-world-economys-shortage-problem

  36. Harry McGibbs says:

    “The Wait for Semiconductors Turns Ominous for Automakers…

    “The gap between putting in a semiconductor order and taking delivery, known as the lead time in the industry, rose another five days in September to an average of 21.7 weeks, according to research by Susquehanna Financial Group. That wait has increased for nine months in a row…”

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-10-07/the-wait-for-semiconductors-turns-ominous-for-automakers

    • Harry McGibbs says:

      “Automotive production in Brazil and Mexico, Latin America’s two largest economies, plummeted in September, dragged down by an industry-wide semiconductor chip shortage and railroad blockades in Mexico, data showed on Wednesday.”

      https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/auto-output-dives-brazil-mexico-chip-shortages-bite-2021-10-06/

      • Harry McGibbs says:

        “Skoda Auto, part of Volkswagen and the Czech Republic’s biggest exporter, will significantly reduce or perhaps halt production from the week starting Oct. 18 until the end of the year due to the global shortage of chips hobbling the automotive sector.”

        https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/vws-skoda-may-halt-production-due-chip-shortage-2021-10-07/

        • metro70 says:

          That’s a chip shortage that can only worsen and will be controlled by China with all the rest of us held hostage…. if China is not prevented or hopefully deterred from taking Taiwan.

          • Well, Elon said it’s a fault of the legacy car manufs, they placed their bets on using chips catering to only specific software tools, while TSLA uses either other chips open for more development platforms or on top of that has got better cadre of software engineers who are able “over night” transport one software application to different hardware platform (chips).. Similarly, they use batteries from several vendors, different form factor (size – dimensions).

            • Aravind says:

              If Elon really said that, it shows his ignorance of the automotive sector. No wonder for all their (hyped) high tech innovations, Tesla still struggles with successfully mass manufacturing their vehicles. There is nothing as “chips catering to only specific software tools”. Wonder where he gets such ideas from.

              Automotive electronics use semiconductor technology that are four to five generations behind the latest ARM gizmos in smartphones or AMD/Intel/Apple processors in computers. The key thing is reliability. Every failure has to be answered for by the original IC manufacturer. You can’t simply drop in a replacement part. Each component, from the lowly resistor to the microprocessor, has to be qualified for the particular application. Qualification of the part (and its entire manufacturing process at the supplier site wherever in the world that may be) takes a few months. It’s not like churning out the latest and greatest smartphone or PC motherboard. Part of the reason why you won’t find Intel, AMD or Qualcomm processors in the automotive industry. They simply can’t be bothered with the stringent quality and reliability requirements (coupled with cost pressure) of vehicle manufacturing just to sell a few hundred thousand more of their chips which any way sell in the millions for the consumer electronics industry.

            • The initial msm story was always about missing chips for the dashboard multimedia panels in the car. Only in RECENT days also revealed they supposedly lack the chips for the engine / emission control itself as you alluded to.. and I agree this tends to be different sort of chips.

              On the other hand, EVs take significantly more chips per car – for all the onboard power electronics (inverter / charger, battery control, charging comm etc..) – so I found it believable TSLA had options at hand to shift some of it to different suppliers.. via different software platform as well.. they are very inhouse and vertically oriented.. as opposed to legacy car manufs with their subcontractor supplier network..

            • “EVs take significantly more chips per car”

              This could be a problem going forward, besides their battery problems.

            • Actually, this could be easily verifiable – if they move the new carz under own motorized power onto these long term impromptu parking lots – that means the only missing chips are the multimedia kind. If on the other hand these carz had to be in some complicated fashion towed, moved around on winch etc. can’t be even started for short distance run etc..

              Given the preponderance of the evidence it’s clearly the first option so far. Not discussing now the tangential link if these chips are really missing at all this being some sort of de-growth whack a mole operation by simply shutting down these factories in Asia..

    • The trend line showing the wait for batteries keeps going up and up. Not a Hubbert Curve!

    • MM says:

      On short notice the ordered chips will be overtaken by newer designs.
      This is a good thing so we can accelerate the 4IR

  37. Harry McGibbs says:

    “A global energy crisis is coming. There’s no quick fix…

    “A global energy crunch caused by weather and a resurgence in demand is getting worse, stirring alarm ahead of the winter, when more energy is needed to light and heat homes. Governments around the world are trying to limit the impact on consumers, but acknowledge they may not be able to prevent bills spiking.”

    https://edition.cnn.com/2021/10/07/business/global-energy-crisis/index.html

  38. Hubbs says:

    Forget about worrying whether there will be enough energey/s! As long as we have enough serfs willing to dig coal, we can sit at our keyboards, enjoy our lattes and EV cars and continue our apex parasitic existence (below politicans, bankers, money changers and other non productive people.)

    I saw this post headline on ZH,
    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/us-desperate-coal-miners-meet-soaring-global-demand

    which tiggered a flashback to when I was a kid learning to read. It was a classic comic book based on Orson Welles’ “The Time Machine.” There were two types of people: The useless, flighty, naive (Eloi? )during the day and the dark subterranean Morlocks who came out at night but neverthelss did all the work for the Eloi.

    Except there was just one -problem. The Morlocks would eat the Eloi.

    • The zerohedge article shows in interesting chart.

      I think the article shows a diminishing returns problem for US coal production, even before the US coal production started to fall in 2009. The number of workers started to rise in 2005. In fact, the number of workers kept rising until 2012. This was when oil prices were high.

      The reason why the number of jobs are down is because mines are too depleted, I expect.

      • I think that we can expect vaccine mandates to destroy any business that they are applied to.

        Israel is now mandating a booster or evidence of recent recovery from COVID-19. This will cut back on demand for all kinds of in person businesses in Israel.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          I mentioned previously that in Hong Kong the passports are in place but the bars are very quiet… from what I hear they are desperate so don’t even ask for the passports…. and even then… they are quiet….

          Early bird ski passes will be on offer here shortly …. the only way I buy that is if I have an iron clad commitment that I get a full refund if they roll the passport here (which is almost a certainty)…

  39. Jarle says:

    The OWF “good things about the future” list (I’ll start, please add your entries below):

    – Due to lack of infrastructure and power electronic money and total surveillance will once again become science fiction.

    • Jarle says:

      Sorry, OFW of course …

      • Xabier says:

        Perhaps you were right first time?

        When limits hit, OFW becomes ‘OWF!’

        The sinister control-freakery of the ‘internet of things’ (in which are to be treated as things ourselves) will die almost as soon as it is born.

        I’ve encountered a new source of wonder and delight: walking into a supermarket and thinking ‘It’s ALL still here!’ And it is!

        So far, still no sign of any shortages of any kind in London, and gas pumps are still pumping, traffic flowing, and jets flying to Heathrow started as usual at 4.30 am…..

    • Good point!

    • Seideman says:

      Jarle are you from Norway? I totally agree with your good thing about the future there. Cant wait! I would add that life will be more local and there will be more focus on community with the people around you.

      • Jon F says:

        “Great ideas originate in the muscles” – Thomas Edison

        I think there’s truth to this. The lack of physicality in modern life has diminished us, blocked us off from certain aspects of our creativity.

        Related to this: “Necessity is the mother of invention”

        I think we’re built for scarcity. People have been discussing the benefits of fasting. In the world to come, I expect “fasting” to be be the norm…

        Rest In Peace Robert Firth

  40. Fast Eddy says:

    The decline in vaccine effectiveness in England was confirmed last week in a new Government-funded study (not yet peer-reviewed), which found that the reduction in transmission ‘declined over time since second vaccination, for Delta reaching similar levels to unvaccinated individuals by 12 weeks for [the AstraZeneca vaccine] and attenuating substantially for [Pfizer]’.

    In other words, within just three months AstraZeneca did nothing to prevent transmission, and Pfizer was scarcely better.

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.09.28.21264260v1

    https://cdn.quotesgram.com/img/21/17/991985062-tumblr_mp7pjb73ZK1qgfv6no1_500.gif

    • Mike Roberts says:

      Unsuprisingly, the paper doesn’t support Fast Eddy’s “other words”. Does that surprise anyone?

      • T.Y. says:

        I checked out the paper, FE has quoted the conclusion verbatim.
        I would think this does not need mentioning, but here goes: 12 weeks is approx. 3 months Mike.

        Perhaps you can point out more precisely which part you don’t agree with ?

        • Fast Eddy says:

          That period looks to be shortening in Israel as the Ministry of Health was already talking about the 4th shot as they rolled out 3… and they have stated there will be ‘waves of shots’…

          Watching the Bossche Malone interview last night .. and the reason they are going after as many people as possible including children is that they do not want the virus to have any opportunity to have a large enough reservoir of uninjected people because that could potentially cause it to mutate to something less deadly…

          He said that so long as they continue with the mass vaccination the virus will continue to be forced to mutate into stronger and stronger variants.

          It’s almost as if one has a crystal ball courtesy of GVB and others…. we can see where this is headed…

          I wonder how GVB and others in his field try to rationalize what they are seeing — it is very obviously a highly organized attempt to create and introduce a pathogen into the human species on a global scale….

          There is no way he can think this is a mistake … or incompetence… or involves corruption ….

          Does he not ask himself the obvious question — if it is none of the above (and how could it be – if it was then why is nobody pushing back anywhere…) then WHY would governments agree to do this?

          It’s not a stretch to come to the conclusion that they must believe that this is what’s best … surely he has heard of the Limits to Growth predictions….

          The CEP has been posted on his site – surely he reads the comments….

          I was having a discussion with an ‘anti-vaxxer’ the other day and he is aware of the CEP… but rejects it … (he thought it was about group think but the Ivermectin cover-up ended that … now he thinks its corruption) … when I said that I can understand that most people are going to reject this because it would lead to despair that did not go over well… Off Guardian also does not want to hear this line of thought and will censor…

          The reality is — this is not something scientists are unaware of :

          Mass infection prevention and mass vaccination with leaky Covid-19 vaccines in the midst of the pandemic can only breed highly infectious variants

          Yet all governments are rushing to inject as many people as possible – knowing full well that this is going to result in a deadly, extremely contagious, uncontrollable virus.

          At the highest levels they KNOW this.

          Obviously they are trying to kill all or at least a hell of a lot of humans.

          I firmly believe they want to kill everyone — because killing a hell of a lot collapses BAU — collapsing BAU unleashes all sorts of deadly forces — including the spent fuel ponds.

          The Israelis are likely breathing a sigh of relief as the Booster tames the virus…. for now… the anxiety will build as the booster wears off… and the sleeves are again rolled up…

          The genius of this … to override Mr DNA’s instincts by convincing him that this death trap is saving him…

          • We have to run some scenarios and probabilities,
            shall we..

            [ The CEP is universally applied ]
            This did not age well, different approaches taken already ala India, Russia, ..

            [ The CEP is full scale depop plan ]
            Well, the above counterargument, plus some of them already said you try dirty tricks on us and we are pushing buttons on the launchpad, the world is not worth much without us.

            Furthermore, full scale CEP option also makes little sense in terms of these spent fuel ponds and other high risk enviro / IC damage sites out there – much preferable to go with partial depop and degrowth having resources (incl. staffers) mopping (e.g. reusing it in breeders) these up. Otherwise why bother at all, if this is the end, lets just default to full scale nuclear war instead.

            So, in summary CEP has not worked (been applied -agreed upon by all major stakeholders) according to original plan yet, or it was impossible too ambitious plan.

            Hence, the most likely explanation at this point remains: [“CEP lite”] in terms of culling some xy% per decade+ and as to release a smokescreen for easy implementation of harsh de-growth / rationing system onward (debt, pension, savings erasure / reset) at least in selected dominions, predominantly W-enclaves.

            Although, the observation and prediction about nurturing / forcing increasingly more dangerous variants is logically sound and highly probable. The peculiar thing as they thrown under the bus the state entity of I. is very telling also, first it underlines the urgency (serious plan-action needed asap), secondly it confirms scenarios of multi tier Elders structure, i.e. (pre-) middle ages “original” banking scam wealth vs. late coming “non pure blood” schmucks commingling on out team, now to be disposed off.

            I’m willing to admit error and rebalance should the situation on the ground change though.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Russia and India are not vaccinating?

              Not that it matters… once Devil Covid emerges… it will spread quickly

            • Xabier says:

              I was interested to note the recent Big Pharma observation that while we get multi-boosters annually, ‘the young’ might only get them every 3 years or so.

              Quite suggestive….

          • Xabier says:

            As G v d Bossche said months ago: ‘This is very basic biology.’

            Looking such evil right in the face is, however, something few people can do.

            Of course, in legend and folklore, even naming a demon is said to offer it a means access to one’s soul.

            It’s odd, in fact staggering, how people find the thought of global corruption on this scale less alarming: ‘It’s cynical, murderous corruption, pumping poison and suppressing cures, that’s all!’

            They should think carefully about the official Rothschild description of us as:

            ‘Inevitably obsolescent human capital’.

            Fit for the scrap heap. To be written off.

            All the implications of what is happening now are in that charming phrase.

    • Xabier says:

      Purely anecdotal, but I’ve never heard so many people with light coughs this early in the winter in London, and also on the train I took to get here.

      Weaker immune systems due to lock-downs? Delta? Vaxx-induced vulnerability? Who knows?

      • JesseJames says:

        My son and daughter in law in the U.K….both fully vaxed…caught Covid and the flu this summer. My son…fully vaaaxxed, caught a cold this summer, a guy I work with, fully vaxxed, currently struggling with deep congestion, flu.

      • Ed says:

        Every time I go to a music event with lots of people I return hoe with light cold symptoms. I chug down the vitamin C and it is soon gone. Is it y lack of exposure in general, is it shedding, …

        • Fast Eddy says:

          The Zombies are spreading their mutants… Beware of the CovIDIOTS… Danger Danger….

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Malone said in the HW interview that the Injected will be the super spreaders of the mutated virus … because initially it does stop them from getting severely ill … so covid is sniffle… a cough…

        So instead of staying home from work — they continue to circulate… passing the virus to the other CovIDIOTS….

        This obviously creates variant factories…. accelerating the development of increasingly dangerous mutants.

        One might think of it this way … imagine a pandemic of Gonorrhea…..caused by a new hook up app called HUMP that has taken the world by storm….

        The GonIDIOTS are in distress because of the purple pus (or puss) dripping from their nether regions and Dr Fauci offers salvation in the form of a a half course of antibiotics…

        The GonIDIOTS gleefully pop their pills … the pus dissipates and there are only a few occasional droplets — Fauci tells them not to worry about that … the droplets are harmless….

        So the GonIDIOTS resume using the app and hooking up … the more popular GonIDIOTS are hooking up multiple times per day …

        But unfortunately those droplets are not harmless…. they contain a more virulent mutated strain fo the disease… and now the pus (or puss) is purple and green and mixed with blood and it’s streaming out of their nether regions….

        Aiyeeee scream the GonIDIOTS!!! Ger-ross!!!!

        Dr Fauci appears on CNN and urges calm… and he distributes another half round of antibiotics…

        The pus comes mostly under control… and the GonIDIOTS return to the app….

        Rinse repeat a couple of more times…

        Then some months later the pus returns… this time it’s laced with hot chili peppers on steroids… and it burns like acid as it flows through the nether region …. it is now extremely deadly and kills both the host and anything it comes in contact with …

        Dr Fauci urges calm as he again appears on CNN… just take these tablets and you will be fine and you can get back to HUMPing. (Googling… Humping….)

        The GonIDIOTS desperately cram the tablets into their mouths but this time the droplets are deadly … they kill anything they come in contact with… and because the tablets have no effect on the disease the deadly droplets turn into a constant flow of toxic waste.

        It splashes everywhere… it’s all over the public toilets… when GonIDIOTS wash their soiled panties its so powerful it does not die and instead spreads onto other clothing … it’s on the hands of the GonIDIOTS…. it’s everywhere!

        And it’s deadly… And soon .. all the GonIDIOTS are Dead.

        The End

        https://i3.wp.com/img.ltn.com.tw/Upload/health/page/800/2021/01/11/phpIXue1R.jpg

      • Artleads says:

        By now, I’ve read a fair number of articles and seen a like number of videos making the case that the thing being called COVID is a concoction: often times it is flu. It can’t be tested for, both because it’s not a real thing and because the test technology was not intended to test for it. I wish someone could make the subject more understandable.

  41. Gerard d'Olivat says:

    German industrial production suffers severe setback in August

    1.German industry produced 4 percent less in August than in the previous month, according to the federal statistics office Destatis. In July, production had increased by 1.3% after three consecutive months of decline, according to an upwardly revised figure. Analysts had expected a more modest decline in August, to -0.1%, according to the Factset consensus. In one year, production is up a timid 1.7%, but remains 9% below pre-Covid-19 pandemic levels in February 2020.
    -17.5% in the automotive sector

    2.In detail, production fell by 17.5% in the automotive sector and by 7.8% in the capital goods sector compared to July. The production of consumer goods fell by 2.6% and that of intermediate goods by 2.4%. Construction fell 3.1%, while the only increase for the month occurred in the energy sector (+4.1%).

    3. After a strong rebound in the German economy in the second half of 2020, the trend in recent months has been negative, mainly due to shortages of materials such as semiconductors, wood and plastics, which bodes ill for GDP growth in the third quarter.

    4. Add to that the rise in energy prices and production stoppages, especially in the automotive sector, and we get a “toxic brew that smells slightly of stagflation,” said Jens-Oliver Niklasch, economist at LBBW. The IfW economic research institute in Kiel recently lowered its GDP growth forecast for 2021 to 2.6%, down from the previously expected 3.9%.

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