Could we be hitting natural gas limits already?

Many countries have assumed that natural gas imports will be available for balancing electricity produced by intermittent wind and solar, whenever they are needed. The high natural gas import prices recently being encountered in Europe, and especially in the UK, appear to be an indication of an underlying problem. Could the world already be hitting natural gas limits?

One reason few people expect a problem with natural gas is because of the immense quantities reported as proven reserves. For all countries combined, these reserves at December 31, 2020 were equal to 48.8 times world natural gas production in 2020. Thus, in theory, the world could continue to produce natural gas at the current rate for almost 50 years, without even trying to find more natural gas resources.

Ratios of natural gas reserves to production vary greatly by country, giving a hint that the indications may be unreliable. High reserves make an exporting country appear to be dependable for many years in the future, whether or not this is true.

Figure 1. Ratio of natural gas reserves at December 31, 2020, to natural gas production for the year 2020, based on trade data of BP’s 2021 Statistical Review of World Energy. Russia+ is the Commonwealth of Independent States. It includes Russia and the countries to the south of Russia that were included in the former Soviet Union.

As I see the issue, these reserves are unlikely to be produced unless world oil prices rise to a level close to double what they are today and stay at such a high level for several years. I say this because the health of the oil and gas industries are closely intertwined. Of the two, oil has historically been the major profit-maker, enabling adequate funds for reinvestment. Prices have been too low for oil producers for about eight years now, cutting back on investment in new fields and export capability. This low-price issue is what seems to be leading to limits to the natural gas supply, as well as a limit to the oil supply.

Figure 2. Inflation adjusted oil prices based on EIA monthly average Brent oil prices, adjusted by the CPI Urban. The chart shows price data through October 2020. The Brent oil price at September 24, 2021 is about $74 per barrel, which is still very low relative to what oil companies require to make adequate reinvestment.

In this post, I will try to explain some of the issues involved. In some ways, a dire situation already seems to be developing.

[1] Taking a superficial world view, natural gas seems to be doing fairly well. It is only when a person starts analyzing some of the pieces that problems start to become clear.

Figure 3. World oil, coal and natural gas supply based on data of BP’s 2021 Statistical Review of World Energy.

Figure 3 shows that natural gas supply has been rising, year after year. There was a brief dip in 2009, at the time of the Great Recession, and a slightly larger dip in 2020, related to COVID-19 restrictions. Overall, production has been growing at a steady rate. Compared to oil and coal, the recent growth pattern of natural gas has been more stable.

The quantity of exports of natural gas tends to be much more variable. Figure 4 compares inter-regional trade for coal and natural gas. Here, I have ignored local trade and only considered trade among fairly large blocks of countries, such as North America, Europe and Russia combined with its close affiliates.

Figure 4. Total inter-regional trade among fairly large groupings of countries (such as Europe and North America) based on trade data provided by BP’s 2021 Statistical Review of World Energy.

If a person looks closely at the growth of natural gas imports in Figure 4, it becomes clear that growth in natural gas is a feast or famine proposition, given to upward spurts, dips and flat periods. It is my understanding that in the early years, natural gas was typically traded under long-term contracts, on a “take or pay” basis. The price was often tied to the oil price. This generous pricing structure allowed natural gas exports to grow rapidly in the 2000 to 2008 period. The Great Recession cut back the need for natural gas imports and also led to downward pressure on the pricing of exports.

After the Great Recession, natural gas import prices tended to fall below oil prices (Figure 5) except in Japan, where stability of supply is very important. Another change was that an increasing share of exported natural gas was sold in the “spot” market. These prices fluctuate depending on changes in supply and demand, making them much more variable.

Figure 5. Comparison of annual average natural gas prices with corresponding Brent oil price, based on information from BP’s 2021 Statistical Review of World Energy. Natural gas prices per million Btus converted to barrel of oil equivalent prices by multiplying by 6.0.

Looking back at Figure 4, natural gas exports were close to flat between 2011 and 2016. Such flat exports, together with falling export prices in the 2013 to 2016 period (Figure 5), would have been a nightmare for oil and gas companies doing long-range planning for oil exports. Exports spurted upward in the 2016 to 2019 period, and then fell back in 2020 (Figure 4). All of the volatility in the growth rate of required new production, combined with uncertainty of the pricing of exports, reduced interest in planning for projects that would increase natural gas export capability.

[2] In 2021, quite a number of countries seem to be ramping up natural gas imports at the same time. This is likely one issue leading to the spiking spot prices in Europe for natural gas.

Now that the economy is recovering from the effects of COVID-19, Europe is trying to ramp up its natural gas imports, probably to a level above the import level in 2019. Figure shows that both China and Other Asia Pacific are also likely to be ramping up their imports, providing a great deal of competition for imports.

Figure 6. Areas with net natural gas imports, based on trade data of BP’s 2021 Statistical Review of World Energy. Other Asia Pacific excludes Japan, China and Australia.

It is no surprise that China’s natural gas imports are rising rapidly. With China’s rapid economic growth, it needs energy resources of whatever kinds it can obtain. Natural gas is cleaner-burning than coal. The CO2 emitted when burning natural gas is lower, as well. (These climate benefits may be partially or fully offset by methane lost in shipping natural gas as liquefied natural gas (LNG), however.)

In Figure 6, the sudden appearance and rapid rise of Other Asia Pacific imports can be explained by the fact that this figure shows the net indications for a combination of natural gas importers (including South Korea, India, and Taiwan) and exporters (including Malaysia and Indonesia). In recent years, natural gas import growth has greatly exceeded export growth. It would not be surprising if this rapid rise continues, since this part of the world is one that has been increasing its manufacturing in recent years.

If anyone had stepped back to analyze the situation in 2019, it would have been clear that, in the near future, natural gas exports would need to be rising extremely rapidly to meet the needs of all of the importers simultaneously. The dip in Europe’s natural gas imports due to COVID-19 restrictions in 2020 temporarily hid the problem. Now that Europe is trying to get back to normal, there doesn’t seem to be enough to go around.

[3] Apart from the United States, it is hard to find a part of the world where natural gas exports are rapidly rising.

Figure 7. Natural gas exports by area, based on trade data of BP’s 2021 Statistical Review of World Energy. Russia+ is the Commonwealth of Independent States. It includes Russia and the countries to the south of Russia that were included in the former Soviet Union.

Russia+ is by far the world’s largest exporter of natural gas. Even with Russia+’s immense exports, its total exports (about 10 exajoules a year, based on Figure 7) still fall short of Europe’s natural gas import needs (at least 12 exajoules a year, based on Figure 6). The dip in Russia+’s natural gas exports in 2020 no doubt reflects the fact that Europe’s imports fell in 2020 (Figure 6). Since these exports were mostly pipeline exports, there was no way that Russia+ could sell the unwanted natural gas elsewhere, lowering its total exports.

At this point, there seems to be little expectation for a major rise in natural gas exports from Russia+ because of a lack of capital to spend on such projects. Russia built the new Nord Stream 2 pipeline, but it doesn’t seem to have a huge amount of new natural gas exports to put into the pipeline. As much as anything, the Nord Stream 2 pipeline seems to be a way of bypassing Ukraine with its exports.

Figure 7 shows that the Middle East’s natural gas exports rose in the period 2000 to 2011, but they have since leveled off. A major use for Middle Eastern natural gas is to produce electricity to support the local economies. Before the Middle East ramped up its natural gas production, much of the electricity was obtained by burning oil. The sales price the Middle East can get for selling its natural gas is far below the price it can get for selling oil, especially when the high cost of shipping the natural gas is considered. Thus, it makes sense for Middle Eastern countries to use the natural gas themselves, saving the oil, since the sale of oil produces more export revenue.

Africa’s natural gas exports have fallen, in part because of depletion of the early natural gas fields in Algeria. In theory, Africa’s natural gas exports could rise to a substantial level, but it is doubtful this will happen quickly because of the large amount of capital required to build LNG export facilities. Furthermore, Africa is badly in need of fuel for itself. Local authorities may decide that if natural gas is available, it should be used for the benefit of the people in the area.

Australia’s natural gas exports have risen mostly as a result of the Gorgon LNG Project off the northwest coast of Australia. This project was expected to be high cost at $37 billion when it was approved in 2009. The actual cost soared to $54 billion, according to a 2017 cost estimate. The high (and uncertain) cost of large LNG projects makes investors cautious regarding new investments in LNG exports. S&P Global by Platts reported in June, 2021, “Australia’s own exports are expected to be relatively stable in the coming years.” This statement was made after saying that a project in Mozambique, Africa, is being cancelled because of stability issues.

The country with the largest increase in natural gas exports in recent years is the United States. The US is not shown separately in Figure 7, but it represents the largest portion of natural gas exported from North America. Prior to 2017, North America was a net importer of natural gas, including LNG from Trinidad and Tobago, Egypt, Algeria and elsewhere.

[4] The United States has a strange reason for wanting to export large quantities of natural gas overseas: Its natural gas prices have been too low for producers for a long time. Natural gas producers hope the exports will raise natural gas prices within the US.

Natural gas prices vary widely around the world because the fuel is expensive to ship and difficult to store. Figure 5 (above) shows that, at least since 2009, US natural gas prices have been unusually low.

The main reason why the price of natural gas dropped around 2009 seems to have been a ramp up in US shale oil production that started about this time. While the main objective of most of the shale drilling was oil, natural gas was a byproduct that came along. Oil producers were willing to almost give the natural gas away, if they could make money on the oil. However, they also had trouble making money on the oil extraction. That seems to be the reason why oil extraction from shale is now being reduced.

Figure 8 shows a chart prepared by the US Energy Administration showing US dry natural gas production, by type: non-shale, Appalachia shale and other shale.

Figure 8. Figure by EIA showing US natural gas production in three categories.

Based on Figure 8, the timing of the ramp up of natural gas from shale seems to correspond with the timing in the drop in natural gas prices. By 2008 (the first year shown on this chart), gas from shale formations had risen to well over 10% of US natural gas production. At this level, it would be expected to have an impact on prices. Adding natural gas to an already well-supplied market would be likely to reduce US natural gas prices because, with natural gas, the situation isn’t “build it, and demand will come.”

People don’t raise the temperature to which they heat their homes, at least not very much, simply because the natural gas price is lower. The use of natural gas as a transport fuel has not caught on because of all of the infrastructure that would be required to enable the transition. The one substitution that has tended to take place is the use of natural gas to replace coal, particularly in electricity generation. This likely means that a major shift back to coal use cannot really be done, although a smaller shift can be done, and, in fact, seems to already be taking place, based on EIA data.

[5] The reason that limits are a concern for natural gas is because the economy is very much more interconnected, and much more dependent on energy, than most people assume.

I think of the economy as being interconnected in much the same way as the many systems within a human being are interconnected. For example, humans have a circulatory system, or perhaps several such circulatory systems, for different fluids; economies have highway systems and road systems, as well as pipeline systems.

Humans require food at regular intervals. They have a digestive system to help them digest this food. The food has to be of the right kinds, not all sweets, for example. The economy needs energy of the right kinds, as well. It has many kinds of devices that use this energy. Intermittent electricity from wind or solar, by itself, doesn’t really work.

Human beings have kinds of alarms that go off to tell if there is something wrong. They feel hungry if they haven’t eaten in a while. They feel thirsty if they need water to drink. They may feel overheated if an infection gives them a fever. An economy has alarms that go off, as well. Prices rise too high for consumers. Or, companies go bankrupt from low market prices for their products. Or, widespread defaults on loans become a problem.

The symptoms we are seeing now with the UK economy relate to a natural gas import system that is showing signs of distress. It is pleasant to think that the central bankers or public officials can fix all problems, but they really cannot, just as we cannot fix all problems with our health.

[6] Inexpensive energy plays an essential role in the economy.

We all know that inexpensive food is far preferable to expensive food in powering our own personal economies. For example, if we need to spend 14 hours producing enough food to live on (either directly by farming, or indirectly by earning wages to buy the food), it is clear that we will not be able to afford much of anything other than food. On the other hand, if we can produce food to live on in 30 minutes a day (directly or indirectly), then we can spend the rest of the day earning money to buy other goods and services. We likely can afford many kinds of goods and services. Thus, a low price for food makes a big difference.

It is the same way with the overall economy. If energy costs are low, the cost of producing food is likely low because the cost of using tractors, fertilizers, weed killers and irrigation is low. From the point of view of any manufacturer using electricity, low price is important in being able to produce goods that are competitive in the global marketplace. From the point of view of a homeowner, a low electricity price is important in order to have enough funds left over after paying the electricity bill to be able to afford other goods and services.

Economists seem to believe that high energy prices can be acceptable, especially if the price of fossil fuels rises because of depletion. This is not true, without adversely affecting how the economy functions. We can understand this problem at our household level; if food prices suddenly rise, the rest of our budget must shrink back.

[7] If energy prices spike, these high prices tend to push the economy into recession.

A key issue with fossil fuels is depletion. The resources that are the least expensive to access and remove tend to be extracted first. In theory, there is a great deal more fossil fuel available, if the price rises high enough. The problem is that there is a balancing act between what the producer needs and what the consumer can afford. If energy prices rise very high, consumers are forced to cut back on their spending, pushing the economy into recession.

High oil prices were a major factor pushing the United States and other major users of oil into the Great Recession of 2007-2009. See my article in Energy, Oil Supply Limits and the Continuing Financial Crisis. In part, high oil prices made debt harder to repay, especially for low income workers with long commutes. It also made countries that used a significant share of oil in their energy mix less competitive in the world market.

The situation being encountered by some natural gas importers is indeed similar. Paying a very high price for imported natural gas is not a very acceptable situation. But not having electricity available or not being able to heat our homes is not very acceptable either.

[8] Conclusion. It is easy to be lulled into complacency by the huge natural gas reserves that seem to be available.

Unfortunately, it is necessary to build all of the infrastructure that is required to extract natural gas resources and deliver them to customers at a price that the customers can truly afford. At the same time, the price needs to be acceptable to the organization building the infrastructure.

Of course, more debt or money created out of thin air doesn’t solve the problem. Resources of many kinds need to be available to build the required infrastructure. At the same time, wages of workers need to be high enough that they can purchase the physical goods they require, including food, clothing, housing and basic transportation.

At this point, the problem with high prices is most noticeable in Europe, with its dependence on natural gas imports. Europe may just be the “canary in the coal mine.” The problem has the potential to spread to other natural gas prices and to other fossil fuel prices, pushing the world economy toward recession.

At a minimum, people planning the use of intermittent electricity from wind or solar should not assume that reasonably priced natural gas will always be available for balancing. One likely area for shortfall will be winter, as well as storing up reserves for winter (the problem affecting Europe now), since winter is when heating needs are the highest and solar resources are the lowest.

About Gail Tverberg

My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
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4,770 Responses to Could we be hitting natural gas limits already?

  1. Jimothy says:

    I keep seeing more about electric vehicles. Considering the recent energy crunch, I expected a respite in the number of articles written. I wonder where they think the electricity will come from? I suppose the idea is to charge at night

    • Fast Eddy says:

      But where will all the coal and gas come from to generate the electricity for this?

    • Xabier says:

      Wolf Richter is an EV ( charge them at night, idle capacity, etc) and injection fan, and won’t hear criticism of either…….

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Nope – he caters to sicko-fants (MOREONS) and anyone suggesting he is wrong will be ridiculed and/or blocked from commenting

        Wolf is a vile pc of shit

        • Xabier says:

          Yes, FE, I’ve come to agree with you about Wolf. We have both been banned by him .

          Of course, he rushed to get injected himself…..

          • anyone wrong is ridiculed??

            surely not.

            I didn’t know anyone could be so discourteous.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              There is ZERO chance of you being censored on wolf street… less than ZERO

            • not somewhere i choose to hang out

              mostly exaggerated nonsense there.

              i guess they booted you because they couldn’t stand the competition

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Nonsense? Wolf and his pack are firm believers in the Injections …. the stars are in alignment for you norm….

              Would you not rather be amongst a cohort of MOREONS?

              You could be huge… You could be the Fast Eddy of Zero Hedge. Wolf might even send you a free mug.

              Off you go to shine Wolf’s shoes

            • Trixie says:

              It’s straight out of “ Rules for Radicals.” Classic.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            Wolf dwarfs the MOREONS that we have to endure on OFW… he is the King of MOREONS….

            • yup

              endure we must

              i sometimes think its a form of penance we must endure in order to sift through the dross to find the rare nugget of truth.

              i think this claim is just about worked out

            • Fast Eddy says:

              A symptom of MOREONISM… is not realizing one is a MOREON even though everyone else in the room is murmuring ‘how the f789 did this MOREON get invited’

            • remind me eddy

              where were you banned from–and why?

              screaming your half baked opinions at people—then going into insult mode when they told you to get lost?

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Fast Eddy’s opinions are fully baked I’ll have you know … try not bust your dentures…

            • they are like ship’s biscuit

              full of weevils

      • Dana says:

        Xabier – our local Walmart has an EV charging station in the parking lot. This summer I was treated to the stupid spectacle of EV owners sitting in their cars for hours charging up while simultaneously running the AC.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          And people think they are not MOREONS….

          With a good PR Team and a fat budget…. almost anything is possible….

          “People must be controlled – because they are so easily controlled’

    • Mike Roberts says:

      They think it would come from renewable energy and still don’t realise that fossil fuels are needed to produce that so-called renewable energy. Most humans want to believe that their lives will either go on as before or will be improved by access to more technology and more energy. The latter will be magically provided by inventive humans, whose ingenuity knows no bounds.

      Humans will only stop believing this nonsense when the physical limits start to bite.

      • T.Y. says:

        Yet you defend the latest mRNA tech to the point of denying an avalanche of contra-indications.
        Even if they would be safe and effective (which is currently already partially disproven) you would be tying yourself to a sinking ship, as other commenters have already pointed out here before. The history of MDV shows what a gamble this could be.

        Imperfect Vaccination Can Enhance the Transmission of Highly Virulent Pathogens :

        Authors declare no conflict of interest: unlike the articles you cited earlier as “proof” for safe & effective mRNA tech Mike…..

    • D. Stevens says:

      I bought an electric bicycle and can charge it with off-grid solar but in a few years when something breaks I’ll be walking around in sandals made from car tires.

    • The key problem is that this move towards EV now morphed into attempted 1:1 replacement in capability with the legacy combustion system, namely they push for fast charging and achieving similar highway speed range per time. This is obviously many times beyond the capability even of some of futuristic grid, at least for the numbers of humans of today. The option for EVs with reasonable local range and charging slowly over the night was discarded, that would be regress, de-growth etc. – this only remained somewhat in the category of so called plugin hybrids (good for few dozen local miles) but as sporting both combustion and electric drives together these are 70% at premium to similar ordinary car, so not desired in volume.

  2. Fast Eddy says:

    When daily case numbers hovered around zero at the beginning of their summer, Israel’s businesses reopened, mass gatherings resumed, and face masks were tossed away as people flocked to beaches and restaurants.

    The optimism didn’t last long. By the beginning of September, cases had climbed to more than 20,000 a day, hospitalisations were rising and more than 50 deaths a day were being recorded.

    Hahaha.. but the new and improved dog shit will be 10x better than the old dog shit … so rather than offering a few months protection (while the virus does its immune escape thing) this time (we PROMISE) it will last much much much longer… well we hope… well… it might… we are not sure… but take our word for it … just take the f789ing Booster Injection Ass Holes.

    hhahahahahhahahahahahhahhahahaaahhhaaa MOREONS Rule!

  3. Fast Eddy says:

    Check it out:

    Israel changed its policy regarding vaccination status earlier than other countries because it began vaccinating earlier (last December), and enough time has passed “to see a sharp rise in community transmission,” he explained.

    He added that the data indicated that the increase in protection following a third shot could “be 10 times and up, compared to people who got the second dose”.

    >>> ‘could be’ hahahaha… very scientific… like giving a bald man some dog shit and saying if he rubs it on his head for 3 months the hair will grow back — but when it doesn’t you tell him — here’s some more dog shit — it could be 10x more effective than the other dog shit


    And he gleefully coats his head in dog shit — again!!!! (oh and he might get a dreadful disease by doing so)

  4. Fast Eddy says:

    Colorado Hospital Set To Deny Kidney Transplant For Unvaxxed Woman

    Rocket launcher time?

  5. Mike Roberts says:

    I am formally requesting that we stop claiming evidence of ADE in COVID-19 in humans until we have actual clinical evidence of ADE in COVID-19 in humans- not in silico data, not in vitro data, not animal models.

    I’ll be blunt: there is very little within this letter that is even close to being correct, and there is almost no evidence presented to support any of its claims. I’ll now go through it point-by-point to explain where it’s wrong.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Hahahahahahha… so what is causing this then?

      mike the plug mike the plug mike the plug …..

      Hey mike can you quote CNN? Come on mike … give us some CNN… how about some BBC….

      • Mike Roberts says:

        So, no counter, then? I thought not.

        • Very Far Frank says:

          This note is posted on the site you referenced Mike:

          “Nothing on this site should be treated as medical advice. All medical inquiries should be answered by a qualified professional familiar with the patient in question’s specific medical history and nothing on this site is an appropriate substitute.”

          The blogger is not a doctor, but describes himself as a ‘aspiring physician’.

          • Mike Roberts says:

            Indeed. I also note that this guy’s letter states that he’s finishing up a “scientific manuscript” but I’ve yet to find anything scientific on COVID-19 from this author. But his words are treated as gospel by some.

        • there never is Mike

          remember that kid in skool who used to repeat everything on every surface, in chalk?

          you see the same kid now, slightly more grown up (physically) doing graffiti on railway bridges, needs to repeat himself ad infinitum

          • Mike Roberts says:

            Sadly, though, some others here seem to think he’s posting useful information. It’s a shame more people can’t learn to think critically.

            • people tend to congregate around those who confirm their set opinions. Life is simpler that way.

              There is an inability to exchange conflicting ideas without resorting to pseudo-violence and rage. In RL, some will resort to actual violence of course. Hence our friend with the ‘short fuse’ (he says).

              sometimes i equate it to road rage–when some lunatic comes screaming up in the car behind, desperate to overtake and prove his superior driving skills.

              he ‘wins’ by overtaking, then you arrive behind him at the next set of traffic lights–he’s gone nowhere and proved nothing other than that he’s an idiot.

              which is why i dont get into unreasoned rages with people i don’t know, and will never encounter (life does have some blessings).
              I don’t get into rages with people i do know for that matter.

              Life is made so much more pleasant by being pleasant to others.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              It’s a good thing to congregate with other people who are thoughtful, highly intelligent and curious …. It increases your Horsepower

              Quite another to consort with MOREONS, CovIDIOTS, DeslusiSTANIS, Green Groopies, Re-Tards and Negative IQ riff raff…. with the common goal being to see who can lower the intellectual bar the furthest…. We can see the results of that here on OFW….

            • i never feel the need to resort to screaming insults at those i know to be mentally short-changed,

              why d’you think that is eddy?

              i know a place where they sell long fuses, which come with instructions about where to stick them—–

              would you like me to send you a link?

            • Fast Eddy says:

              ‘mentally short changed’ is all relative… you’d have a hard time finding someone more ‘mentally short changed’ than yourself to scream it

            • probably

              but i still never resort to screaming.

              self control must come before one seeks to control others

              (another of life’s great lessons)

    • geno mir says:

      Just finished my prelimenary report for one C19 vax study. In one cohort (3000 patients) we have observed 527 cases of Covid-19 after full vaccination (and no those were not part of the placebo cohort) of which 97 experienced severe disease on the background of innate immune response or on the background of hyper specific immune response (this is ADE). Sofar of those 97 cases there have been only 13 lethalities.
      I am once again saying (for the ones who boldly cite clinical information without having even a mild knowledge on regulatory procedures and clinical trial conduct), in any other time or different than C19 vaccine trial, the IMP (Investigational medicinal product) would have been immediately halted and the trial terminated. IMMEDIATELY!
      Perhaps you ask yourslef what will happen with this vaccine and what the impact of my report will be? The vaccine is going to be marketed in the comming months and my report will be overwritten by the client because EUA and other such mental gymnastics which makes the half-witts feel safe and cared for by the masters.

      • Xabier says:

        Thanks again for a frontline report, Geno Mir.

        Why people find comfort and reassurance in: ‘As this is an emergency, we’re going to stuff this into you!’ is something I still can’t fathom.

        • geno mir says:

          Human psyche. Half of people want smothering mommy and the other half kick-ass daddy to solve all their problems.

      • I imagine the argument would be that the number of deaths was greatly reduced because of vaccination, so the vaccine is working as intended.

        The COVID vaccinations worked sort of like the flu vaccines. They somewhat reduced severe cases. We are finding out, as well, that the COVID vaccines are short acting. That is also pretty much like the flu vaccines. A new type of vaccine is needed every year; it may work, or it may miss the mark. With COVID, a new vaccine may be needed every six months or more often. Even if the human body can tolerate vaccines of this type, this often, it is not clear that today’s supply lines and resource problems will allow sufficient manufacturing and distribution to keep this up.

        • geno mir says:

          Before tsarting the trial we were tasked with feasibility assessment. Mire or less we concluded that the risk are what you more or less outlined above.

        • blade says:

          Are you high?

          The genomir stated that the vaccines literally caused death in 13 people.

          Hey, the vaccines stop the severity though is what you are saying?

          LOL what clown world do you reside in?

        • geno mir says:

          No justification is needed Gail. The study protocol does not include anything regarding analysing lethalities in its end points. The RAs won’t even ask about those.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        I can read mike’s Pea… “nothing the Boosters can’t fix”

        (Q vein-popping laughter visual)

      • Fast Eddy says:

        That’s kinda like where the director says ‘talk’ on the fake moon landing scene — you weren’t supposed to see hear that either

      • DB says:

        Thank you, Geno Mir, for the inside information. What were the results for those in the placebo arm? And how long was the follow-up period?

  6. Fast Eddy says:

    peter is admitting to having been a naughty boy, to having flouted the GoF ban, and asking for $14 million dollars to do stuff that sounds like the origin story for a zombie apocalypse or a pandemic movie. and he names duke university, UNC, and some other collaborators alongside the WIV.

    quite the cast of characters.

    and quite the litany of naughty behavior and poor judgement. right from the start we see that peter is already in the wuhan caves looking at high spillover SARS-Covs, wants to amplify them, insert them into bat viruses, but thinks this is “exempt from dual use and GoF concerns”.

    but here’s where it REALLY gets scary. these guys (and their cast including now notorious baric and shi, want to create “novel chimeric polyvalent recombinant spike proteins” (like the one in covid 19) and actually go infect wild bats with them while also modulating their immune systems using a set of novel, aerosolized delivery mechanisms.

    go back and read that again. because if this does not sound so wildly reckless and unpredictable as to resemble a horror movie plot setup, you may not have grasped what this was.

    they want to take hotwired viruses with new, more dangerous spike protein expression and infect caves full of wild bats with them and/or inoculums (vaccines) based on them to see what happens to shedding and see if they can render the bats a less potent reservoir of potential disease risk for human crossover. if this is starting to sound like that scene in jurassic park right before everything goes hopelessly wrong, well, then i think you’re following along. these people are crazy. this is WAY past reckless.

    it’s also clear that this is NOT just GoF program. it’s also a vaccine program. and that’s important. file that fact away.

    • Xabier says:

      As Fauci says at the notorious vaxx conference, approved by the other loonies:

      ‘Why don’t we just blow up the whole system?’

  7. Fast Eddy says:

    Russia Covid-19 deaths jump to record amid Delta surge

    The world’s fifth worst-hit country recorded 929 Covid-19 deaths for the first time.

    Mass infection prevention and mass vaccination with leaky Covid-19 vaccines in the midst of the pandemic can only breed highly infectious variants.

  8. Tim Groves says:

    Dr. Vladimir Zelenko talks to a panel of Israeli rabbis and lets them know their governments and health authorities are lying to them, the vax is dangerous, and the program may amount to genocide. He quotes Yeadon, Montagnier and other luminaries, and he is something of a luminary himself. When asked by one of the rabies why they should believe him rather than a bunch of authorities that assure them everything is OK, he responded that the total number of Covid-19 patients treated by all the people you’ve just mentioned is zero. I have treated six thousand Covid-19 patients and I’ve trained two hundred doctors who have trained others and the total number of patients we’ve treated is in the millions.

    This is a half-hour video and I think it is well worth listening to. I am confident that this doctor is honest and knows only too well what he’s talking about. He is very measured and confident, but at the same time I can sense a burning anger beneath his words. He is begging people not to risk destroying their lives and other people’s though the administering of an untested intervention with potentially devastating long-term risks.

  9. Fast Eddy says:

    Over 1 million Israelis who haven’t had 3rd dose to lose Green Pass on Sunday

    Many won’t be able to access certain public places and gatherings without a negative virus test after policy change requiring booster shot six months after 2nd COVID-19 vaccine

    MOREONS (hope they get maimed)×400.jpg

    • Mike Roberts says:

      MOREONS (hope they get maimed)

      I’m suprised Gail puts up with this open yearning that other people get harmed by perfectly legal and, in the circumstances, reasonable behaviour.

      • Xabier says:

        That’s because, dear Mike, you still haven’t grasped the magnitude of the vaxx lie, and the trusting stupidity these people are exhibiting.

        By going along with this ever more implaible fraud, they harm not only themselves, but are also compromising the health and human rights of the rest of us.

        They all seem to be racing to claim the Darwin prize of all Darwin prizes…..

      • Tim Groves says:

        So, what’s to put up with?

        Concern trolls are almost always concerned about other people’s etiquette. Have you noticed that?

        They are totally unfazed by individuals and organizations promoting and in some cases mandating the injection of dangerous and deadly poisons.

        But when someone merely expresses the hope that other people will suffer, this is somehow beyond the pale and sets off their concern chip.

        As a qualified Jungian psychologist with a side job as a gynecologist in my lunch-break, I find this sort of concern troll behavior fascinating.

  10. Sam says:

    All I can say is 😂. You are very entertaining! Are you planning on being one of the “lords”

    • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

      thank you.

      it was really quite effortless for me.

      I think I would pass on being boss over any post collapse society.

      I still can’t grasp any rationality to “prepping” for post collapse life.

      • Trixie says:

        As to “prepping” I thought about buying some hiking boots. But where would I go? Someone tougher and meaner would steal them off my feet. Pity… it’s not going to be a cozy catastrophe like in “Day of the Triffids” where I can hide out, drink tea with me mate and wait for things to blow over.

        • Ed says:

          The bad folks will be dropping as fast as the good. there is lots of random chance involved. Buy the boots.

        • Sorry, to be a party spoiler, but did you know that even most of the mid to upscale hiking boots nowadays have pretty limited lifespan? The desired functionality combo of flexibility and sturdiness results after ~3-5yrs into fragility, they fall into pieces. The best leather made brands could be taken to the shoemaker specialists for repair – renewal though (~BAU)..

          The whole IC works on never ending re-supply and re-stocking of essential parts, when that fails / chokes, the clock starts ticking relentlessly on the longevity of already produced “very last batch” of goods.

          As to your latter question, identify, find, serve, be protected by your hopefully “benign” new feudal master.

  11. MG says:

    “Most of the people in the BZs practice fasting of some type, whether it is for religious
    reasons or intermittent fasting while working during the day. Calorie restriction (CR), not
    associated with malnutrition, is definitely the best characterized non-genetic intervention
    that enhances maximum lifespan and improves health span, preventing or retarding the
    onset of pathophysiological changes in different species [226]. CR slows the aging and
    enhances the lifespans of fish, flies, mammals (mice and rats), and spiders [227]. CR reduces
    the oxidative load, which decreases the ROS synthesis in mitochondria. The decrease in the
    ROS synthesis substantially decreases the amount of oxidized proteins, lipids, and altered
    mitochondrial DNA. It is supposed that CR and the ingesting of food rich in antioxidants
    can significantly extend the life span of persons [5,228]. Researchers believe that consuming
    fewer calories may be contributing to the long life expectancy in some of these blue regions.
    According to a study, reducing your calorie intake by even 30% can considerably increase
    life expectancy [229].”

    Impact of Polyphenolic-Food on Longevity: An Elixir of Life.
    An Overview

  12. CTG says:

    I find it seriously fascinating that people still entertain that we can step down easily and becoming a feudal society or living in the times of Little House on The Prairie. We are all made to believe that all this would happen as what is portrayed by Hollywood. Snap the fingers and 50% of the population is gone. Within 2 days, the entire world will go down in flames and FE will mention the spent fuel ponds. With enough HGV drivers, UK is screwed. What about 50% of the population?

    Do people ever realized that hundreds of years ago, if one parent dies, be it father or mother, the entire family will be in an existential crisis? If the father dies, can the mother actually take care of the family plus growing food? If there are siblings or parents (or in laws), perhaps it helps but if they have died, then the whole family will die out. If there are 2 consecutive bad harvests, they may be so weak that it is not possible for the entire family/village to last the harvest. Only the fittest and the luckiest survive.

    With most of our good arable land urbanized, farming land depleted (unless with the help of modern fertilizers) plus it takes a long time to grow food/vegetables and we don’t have the knowledge skills or even seeds to grow food, add in marauding hordes, I am simply unsure how we can get past the first few months easily.

    Yes many will see a slow and gradual downhill decline but at one point of time, it will stop and an abrupt decline will happen. Perhaps through reviewing charts, what if we have already gone through the slow decline since 1913, 1970 or 2007? There is a limit to things.

    Look at the people surrounding you, are they even fit or knowledgeable to proceed to the next phase of life as a slave in a feudal world?

    Again yes, some will say that there are preppers. Far and wide apart in small isolated pockets. Eventually they will all die out. Anybody seriously know how to do childbirth? If the mother dies, any more survivors in that community? If the father has snake bite, will be survive without any modern medicine?

    We are seriously deluding ourselves if we think we can go back to the days of “Little House on the Prairie”. If internet goes down, can FedEx work? Do they still use telex? Is it even possible to send messages via actual telegram (not the small caps, not the chat software)

    I am not going to talk about spent fuel ponds. It is just too abstract to touch that topic.

    • Trixie says:

      I hope I end up as a house slave rather than a field slave, I burn easily and have a gimp leg.

      • Trixie says:

        It is absurd to think we can model or game out future collapse scenarios based on what happened in the past. Having 7.8 billion humans on the planet is a game changer. Previous imperiled populations responded to localized environmental degradation or other stressors which were limited in nature. The current dilemma is of an order of magnitude vastly greater encompassing problems that straddle multiple failing systems and for which there are no immediate solutions. For instance, how do we decarbonize the ocean in a timeframe meaningful to humans? The answer is we can’t. And that is just one single problem.

        • Good points! Also, we have worldwide supply lines that are already failing. Collapses that took many years in the past may happen faster now.

        • problem is….history is the only guide we have.

          generals in ww1 were trained before the machine gun was invented. They had no real experience of what it could do. They could only fight ww1 until one side or the other ran out of live bodies.

          politicians today have grown up in a time of abundance (of food, energy etc) for the industrial developed world.

          Despite indications to the contrary, they are not entirely stupid.

          They know that 7.8bn +++ people cannot possibly be sustained on a finite planet, but they can only point to past times, as terrified of the future as we are.

          “we will have a green new deal’ —so the gullible take comfort in that. Ignoring the fact that Roosevelt had unlimited cheap oil at his disposal. We do not.

          Or a rerun of ‘ the Manhattan project’. ditto above.

          We fantasise about living ‘off earth’, or asteroid mining, but the thinking behind that somehow correlates with the colonisation of the Americas in the 16th c.

          Few can face the reality that this might actually be the time where our surplus energy actually runs out for good.

          On the other hand, in true Dickensian fashion, something might just turn up.

          • Trixie says:

            Yes, it’s all a bad bad dream.

            “You may be an undigested bit of beef, a blot of mustard, a crumb of cheese, a fragment of underdone potato. There’s more of gravy than of grave about you, whatever you are!”


            • Mirror on the wall says:

              “There’s more of gravy than of grave about you!”

              The funniest line in the movie. The ghost does not take the line too well as a remember.

            • and the most frightening sequence, is when the ghost of christmas present opens his cloak and reveal two starving children:

              these are your children! They are the children of all who walk the earth unseen! Their names are Ignorance and Want! Beware of them, for upon their brow is written the word “doom”! They spell the downfall of you and all who deny their existence!

    • Harry says:

      “Yes many will see a slow and gradual downhill decline but at one point of time, it will stop and an abrupt decline will happen”

      That’s how I see it too.
      If our civilization falls (and today it extends over practically the entire planet), then in the end it will practically be a total loss. 99% + will be gone.

    • No matter how far back a person goes, it becomes impossible to see how we could suddenly step into that world and make it work. There is a huge knowledge based that would be required as well. And, beyond the very earliest days, there would be a whole infrastructure built up that could be serviced by the people and systems of that day.

      For example, if we go back to hunting and gathering, how many of us could survive on what we could hunt and gather? How would we cook our food? (We can’t live only on raw food, except possibly if it has been processed in a blender first.) How would we get clean water? How would we start the fires?

      If we go to any more recent date, we can’t get along without the systems of that day. We can’t make horse and buggy work, partly because there aren’t enough horses and not enough buggies. There are few places where they could be parked in cities. There are no services to clean up after of them. It would take acres and acres of food to feed them, leaving less for the rest of us.

  13. Fast Eddy says:

    Conspiracy… exposed

    They wouldn’t be identifying anti-vaxxers and monitoring them to see if they might be considering violence or looking to organize protests … by looking for key word searches…e.g. Mike Yeadon … Great Barrington Declaration etc

  14. Rodster says:

    “Why Shortages Are Permanent: Global Supply Shortages Make Fantastic Financial Sense” by CHS

    • The shortages CHS refers to relate to goods we find on the shelves in stores. At the end, CHS says:

      . . . now we’re all seated at the banquet of consequences flowing from stripping out redundancy and competition, and ceding control of supply chains to quasi-monopolies and cartels. Scarcities are their source of profits, and since it makes zero financial sense to spend a fortune building a plant to make solvents, lubricants, alloys, etc. in limited quantities in markets dominated by quasi-monopolies and cartels, shortages are a permanent feature of the 21st century global economy.

      The era of abundance was only a short-lived artifact of the initial boost phase of globalization and financialization; now that the consolidation is complete, shortages make fantastic financial sense.

      By all means thank Corporate America for squandering $11 trillion to further enrich the top 0.1% and insiders. Alas, there was no better use for all those trillions than further enriching the already-super-rich.

      I am afraid Charles Hugh Smith is right.

      • drb says:

        But these shenanigans are part and parcel of the flation part of stagflation. Surely they help drive it, too, but when one announces inflation is x/year, all this and much more is included. We always knew that a capitalist system is about the worse to have when going into resource depletion.

    • Alex says:

      “If firing up a new supplier of essential solvents, etc. was so captivatingly profitable, the why wouldn’t Google and Apple take a slice of their billions in cash and go make some easy money?”

      Who said it was captivatingly profitable, especially for someone who knows jack shit about essential solvents? Of course buying their own stock is more profitable (and much easier) in this twisted environment.

      What do people do when there are permanent shortages of some stuff? They find alternatives, or at the very least they reduce usage of that stuff. Intentionally creating permanent shortages by quasi-monopolies does not make much sense to me.

  15. Fast Eddy says:

    Vaccination still the key

    Baker said the now-shortened interval between Pfizer doses was right.

    Yesterday the Government advised people should have three weeks between doses rather than the earlier recommended six weeks.

    “Basically I think … all New Zealanders should plan to encounter this virus in the next couple of months and act accordingly, and the number one thing of course is to get vaccinated,” Baker said.

    Odd — I thought they had fully tested this … that this is not a live experiment…. if tested then surely they would have known that 3 weeks is right interval… just makin shit up haha

    Or maybe not — NZ needs to do its part in contributing to the development of super covid … so the sooner both shots are crammed into as many as possible — the better….. and then we ‘get to live with covid’ … which means we need these Injected CovIDIOTS to mingle and spread the virus amongst each other — because that’s how you get immune escape….

    Try explaining THAT to a CovIDIOT in person hahahahaha… it’s like trying to explain it to a Barnyard Animal … it is exactly like that… expect the CovIDIOT would get angry and dismissive

    • Xabier says:


      ‘I think all New Zealanders should expect to encounter the virus, and develop immunity in consequence. Vaxxes are not required.’

  16. Fast Eddy says:

    Let’s check in on the Israeli’s…. the Boosters are working their magic…. the CovIDIOTS will be rejoicing!!!

    Unfortunately what they do not realize is that this celebration will be short-lived… the virus is taking tentative swings at the Booster … testing it… once the virus realizes that this is another leaky vaccine it will beat the living shit out of it … and emerge stronger faster better….

    Then of course we’ll see Booster 2… and ultimately we’ll get Immune Exhaustion (aka Human Mareks Time)

    And the CovIDIOTS will squeal in fear… as the dying begins…. completely oblivious to the fact that it is their compliance with Mengele’s directives… that caused the Nightmare Scenario…

    Remember … we will have the last laugh at you MOREONS.

    • The first article is

      Israel tightens COVID ‘green pass’ rules, sparking protest

      Israel restricted its COVID Green Pass on Sunday to allow only those who have received a vaccine booster dose or recently recuperated from coronavirus to enter indoor venues. The new criteria mean that nearly 2 million people will lose their vaccination passport in the coming days. . .

      Under the new guidelines, people must have received a booster shot to be eligible for a green pass. Those who have received two vaccine doses, and those who have recovered from coronavirus, will be issued passes valid for six months after the date of their vaccination or recovery.

      At least Israel is making “or recently recuperated from coronavirus” as one of the options. But the 2 million who will lose their vaccination passports, and the many who never had one in the first place, will be unhappy. In fact, the article mentions demonstrations.

      • when (finally) apartheid or any totalitarianism turns on eating itself.. lolz..

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Shall we assume that this figure includes people who have refused the 3rd jab so are now considered unvaccinated? Yes of course… because we know what’s happening in the UK …

          Recent months have seen a surge in new cases of coronavirus in Israel. As of Sunday, over 70% of the 588 serious coronavirus cases in Israeli hospitals were unvaccinated individuals, according to Health Ministry data.

    • Bobby says:

      A virus is not a living thing, it is not making conscious hive mind like decisions or trying to evolve, fight, grow, avoid, punch, kick or bite. A virus is deathless in nature, a rampant RNA or DNA. Viruses are more like cancer than is assumed.

      If many end up with bad outcomes either because of vaccines or the pathology itself the level of dogma and bigotry will become destructive and just as excluding and polarizing socially in both the vacc and natural (s) narratives…the perfect way to destroy a society and again like a cancer.

      Our narratives have become like a cancer.

      For me a vaccine taken out of cohesion or out of threat of social stigma and consequential excommunication from economic participation is in itself a death sentence
      A Free Being must be free to choose a path
      A farm animal doesn’t have this state
      Fear is a cage
      Consciousness of our suffering leads to liberation

      Break free…try anyway.

  17. The landowners will defend their turf with guns, dogs and drones.

    They will be the new lords.

    They don’t really want progress since any change will undermine their power, and a long period of stagnation is inevitable.

    But perhaps that will give the earth a time to recover, so we can reach all the goals suggested by Dennis and others, since it might take a century.

    • So, Bill Gates and other big land owners will come out ahead? I can see this more easily than the big landowners in New York City. There are an awfully lot of things to go wrong in NYC. The farms won’t be able to support the huge cities anymore.

      • Yes, they will become the land barons of the future and their lines will exist for, virtually, forever.

        • Bei Dawei says:

          Becoming a warlord of post-apocalyptic New York seems like a good path to longevity to me.

        • Karl says:

          You’re assuming the rule of law holds up, which is unlikely. I suspect rougher men accustomed to violence will become the new lords. Maybe Gates could marry his children off to one of them or their children and thereby hold onto his lands….

      • Gail, you are not considering (neo) feudal model where goons of Billy G. expropriate “fair share” of farm production inside their dominion. This surplus will be then eaten partly by the entourage but also leveraged up through long or short distance trade further.. it’s a win-win-win..

    • Mirror on the wall says:

      The British aristocracy seems to number about 600 families. On average, each title is worth about £14M – not all that much really in an economy of 2.8T in 2019. Together they own about 1/3 of the land. UK has 2.5 million millionaires, about 5% of the population. Home ownership stands at around 65%.

      I would not bet on the present large land owners surviving the collapse or dominating the society. It will be all to play for. Land ownership in post-Norman conquest England was based simply on who could seize it and hold it. ‘Aristocrats’ (properly a Greek concept, arete) were simply the better warlords. The collapse will be the beginning of a new round of contest, not the end of the contest.

      It really is crystal ball territory. I am also hesitant to propose any firm ‘criterion’ of what would be a ‘good’ outcome in terms of power assertion. All ‘claims’ will be out bar those can be actualised. Something ‘actual’ rather than pretended may come out it. It will be what it is, its own ‘criterion’. Should any of us care, and why?

      Arguably ‘arete’ is originally manly, warrior virtues, though it carries a general meaning of ‘excellence’, and different ‘virtues’ can come to the fore in different social conditions. If the land owners want to claim ‘arete’, then arguably they ought to be involved in the fighting, rather than getting others to do it for them. Otherwise they are pretend ‘aristocrats’, at least in the original sense.

      It is not clear what ‘virtues’ they are supposed to exhibit and exemplify if they are just going rely on the police to protect them and their land. Certainly English aristocrats in the Middle Ages were expected to take up the sword and shield and to assert their claims themselves on the battlefield. Otherwise they were no good to anyone. It was about actually exhibiting the ‘virtues’, not claiming airs and graces.

      So, if you want a genuine ‘aristocracy’ after the collapse then perhaps you should welcome an open contest without any social supports to the old landowners. Let them fight, and win if they are able to. And if not, then let those who can, take their place. Then there will some actual ‘virtue’ rather than perhaps just some stale old ideology and pretences. Let the fight commence?

      > In Homer’s Iliad and Odyssey, “arete” is used mainly to describe heroes and nobles and their mobile dexterity, with special reference to strength and courage, but it is not limited to this…. In regards to the Iliad the way Homer describes Achilles is an example of arete. Arete is associated with the goodness and prowess of a warrior.

      • Mirror on the wall says:

        As I was saying, the Norman ‘aristocracy’ in feudal England was all about competing warlords, whoever could take the land off others and hold it themselves. They were active warriors who did their own fighting. If they lost the ability to hold land against others, then they lost the land along with any claim to it.

        That is the origins of ‘aristocracy’ – in ‘barbarism’. It is generally true that the ‘higher’, the esteemed tends to originate in the ‘lower’, in the vitality of the basic organic drives. The later ‘aristocracy’ was prissy by the 15th c., and nothing really to do with the earlier concept. Privileged prissies living off the protection of the emergent central state with couth ‘manners’ that would have got them killed in the Middle Ages.

        If there is to be a genuine ‘aristocracy’ in post-collapse England, then arguably the land needs to go through a fresh stage of barbarism, to sweep away the pretences of prissied families, who have probably never had a fight in their lives – for untold generations. A fresh contest of strength would allow a fresh organic vitality to come to the fore. It may even come from abroad anew.

        This is from ‘The Better Sort: Ideas of Race and of Nobility in Eighteenth-Century Great Britain and Ireland’. I must hunt down further sources on the early Norman aristocracy and their society of the day. One will remember that they were relatively recent descendants of the Vikings, and they came via the bloody conquest of France and England – prissies not. The only ‘claim’ that they had was that of the sword.

        > …. The vast new tracts of English land that came with the conquest were a source of constant turbulence for the Norman landed elite, leading to bloody usurpations and depositions as well as a mass of new title creations and hereditary claims (Green 126, 143). Thus, it was the possession and retention of land that came to dictate the progression of hereditary power, with the more dominant families constantly aspiring to expand their territory.

        …. The feudal idea of nobility represents both a break in the European noble tradition and an essential medium for its continuity. With its focus on war and military glory, it re-imagined the rank of nobility as an active caste of warrior princelings, ultimately at the service of their monarch and thus to God. Concurrently, it allowed for the advancement of hereditary privilege – and of the idea of the lineal family itself – in a world without senates or ancestral patres. Adapting to the culture of vassals and knighthood, nobility found new expression in the dominant elite – where it was land and conquest, rather than renown that made a family great.

        …. In light of the chapter 1.1.3, the theatrical precepts of the sprezzatura nobleman are all the more remarkable. How, exactly, had the functions of nobility been so transformed? How, in the space of a few short generations, had a legion of knights – warriors whose very tombs portrayed them in the throes of war – developed into a rank that was judged on the ability to sing, or dance, or swordfight, or indeed to act as if singing, dancing and sword-fighting were second nature to them? How, in short, had the knight become a courtier?

        • Artleads says:

          This is like going back to school. Thanks.

        • Mirror, thanks for that.

          However, the situation on the ground is rather different still at this particular historical round. The lower classes are no longer proletariat in the traditional sense but increasingly of long lineage (successive generations) of unemployed, low / no skill, plus incoming 3rd world migrant waves etc..

          While former proletariat (and their precursor to city moving peasants) was skilled, today’s masses not so much, while the Queen still tends the garden by herself (yes token effort) and loyal cadre of soldiers (and mercenaries) can defend some perimeter of said estates belonging to old aristocracy and the new financial one (not all of the acreage obviously in fast / deep collapse).

          • after the Norman conquest, 1066 and all that, the nation of England belonged to either the king (William 1st) or the church.

            Wales and Scotland were separate kingdoms.

            The king divided up the shires (literally the ‘count’- ies ) of England among the French nobles who had helped him to take it. That depended on rank and service given, The English anglo saxons were largely removed.)

            religious houses were endowed with lands in order to keep god on side.

            (US politics today functions in much the same way)

            The biggest and most powerful areas were sited on the borders of Scotland and Wales. (the marcher lords) the energy surplus of 20/50000 acres could support a decent castle and a small army to guard it and keep the serfs under control.
            A string of castles was built to keep the scots and Welsh in check.

            Serious Feudal wars didnt break out until later, when descendants of the original invaders began to argue over rights of inheritance

    • They don’t really know enough to recommend people taking the drug yet. According to the article:

      The dosage level is probably too low in supplements to have an impact, he said, compared with the clinical-grade doses being used in the trials. However, there are unknown risks to taking high doses of fisetin — which Mayo received permission to administer after filing the kind of investigational new drug application with the U.S. Food and Drug Administration that is usually reserved for experimental new drugs.

      “We’re playing with a fundamental aging mechanism,” Kirkland said. “We don’t know what all the potential downsides could be.”

      I know I eat a lot of the foods pictured in the first link. My intake of fisetin is probably pretty high already.

    • drb says:

      Best way to remove senescent cells is to fast.

      • Agree, however, (semi-) fasting is not compatible with the IC living arrangements, in order to avoid much of fasting throughout the daytime – daylight factory/office work hours you have to do it at home and that means early into the bed and no food intake, say after ~6pm (eating lightly prior to that anyway) and before 7-9am again. Very few can motivate themselves to follow such regiment.

        The only solution is either to find an obscure job with “lite touch” management pressure over you or bail out somewhere on the outskirts of the system. Again we are then full circle back, although fasting is correct and beneficial tool provided by nature, this is not IC realm compatible for most of today’s pop..

        • drb says:

          Not really true. I have fasted during countless regular work days although to be perfectly honest I do not have a boss, but I do have commitments towards the public. Your energy does not start to decline until the middle of the third day. You have to be fat adapted though.

          • Possible but as you acknowledged boundary, exceptional case.. That’s why I limited it as (semi / partial) form of fasting to be somewhat compatible with the civilization settings of today but full fasting almost impossible.

  18. Duncan Idaho says:

    “It’s to the point that we literally no longer care. The ones we see now are 99% unvaccinated, so we just shrug. I can count the vaccinated admissions on my fingers, and I don’t think but one of them died..
    The kids, obviously, we do care.
    The adults? Fuck ’em.
    They made their choice.”

    Health Care workers are fed up with the idiots.

    • Perhaps those who didn’t want the vaccines should have been told to raise their vitamin D levels, or to take ivermectin as a prophylactic.

      • Mike Roberts says:

        Whilst vitamin D does seem to help, I’m not sure how it compares with the vaccines. I wouldn’t want to take another medicine forever in the hope of avoiding getting COVID-19, just having a jab every 6-12 months seems more reasonable advice.

        • Very Far Frank says:

          Are you never tempted by the logic, Mike, that it might be more reasonable to place one’s antiviral protection in the hands of millions of years of evolution, rather than build a dependence on a novel man-made technology that has been around for less than two?

          It’s not as if humans haven’t been exposed to new viruses before, so what is the use in making your future health contingent on a vaccine whose supply chain is as fragile as everything else?

        • Dennis L. says:

          Choice made here: I shall accept the disease when it comes, it is said everyone will get the delta variant, I have no clue. I shall make preparations as appropriate for me, should it come that I will pass, I will do so in my home, at peace with my life as lived.

          Recently I faced this in a different setting, accepted what was dx to come and got a bye, gets easier with practice.

          My observation without judgment is too many of the people in my city are obese, they are not healthy; the population of the US seems to be much less robust than in the fifties. Our lifestyle seems to be killing us and that includes diet. Went to my favorite restaurant in La Crosse after a number of years, too damn much food, tasted great, suspect all that stuff that made it taste great was not great for me.

          Get the vid, survive and one is good to go, immune response seems better than vaccine.

          Campbell, very pro vaccine, has a nice channel that seems fair and balanced in this area; results from India are very positive for a certain drug.

          People do recover.

          Dennis L.

        • Bei Dawei says:

          So *that’s* why the milkshake machines never work.

        • Xabier says:

          ‘What is reasonable to the donkey is not reasonable to the fox.’

          Old proverb, that I just invented……

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Found the source…. that reads as if it came from a troll from the PR Team…

        Real medical professionals are seeing the vaccine injuries and deaths… and the fully vaxxed CovIDIOTS are inbound to the ICUs…. so I seriously doubt anyone would see this as so black and white….

        If it is real … they are in for a surprise when Immune Exhaustion arrives hahahahaha

        • Tim Groves says:

          That Daily Kos site is an even bigger echo chamber than the space inside the dome of St. Pauls. Not only do the articles reek of artificiality. It is a reasonable supposition that the comments section is pure PR too.

          Fortunately, free and open intellectual debate still flourishes at OFW, where the genteel art of referring to one’s detractors eejets and moreons has not been lost.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            dunc thinks quoting daily kos (kos which actually means ‘shit’ in Azerbaijani as in Bir şey üçün getdim – which I speak and write fluently) makes him hip and edgy….

          • Fast Eddy says:

            ‘Daily shit’….

    • Xabier says:

      If a doctor or nurse said that, they are an utter disgrace.

      As is quoting them with approval, Duncan.

    • Dennis L. says:

      I find you attitude objectionable and your attitudes despicable and racist as a large proportion of the black community is not vaccinated.

      May I inquire as to your education?

      Dennis L.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Dr Fast Eddy Directory of the Mayonnaise Clinic when asked about the fully vaccinated that are overwhelming UK hospitals said, “F789 these CovIDIOTS. They are breeding dangerous mutations that are clogging up my ICU…. If it were up to me I’d throw their asses out on the street and let the feral dogs pick their carcasses clean’

      But while 81.3% of people over 16 have received two vaccine doses, there are currently 8,340 COVID-19 patients in hospital in Britain, compared to just 1,066 a year ago.

    • Lidia17 says:

      Where does this quote come from? Is it real?

      • Tim Groves says:

        Very little that Duncan quotes is real and nothing he says is sincere. He’s part of the clown show, and he mainly pops in here to try to derail honest debate.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          One can see why the only jobs available to old people like dunc involve greeting shoppers as they enter Big Box Stores….

        • Fast Eddy says:

          They cannot even bag groceries because working out that the bread and bananas should not go in before the cans and bottles….

    • Lidia17 says:

      Why do you think so many health workers increasingly refuse the jab??

      They must just be crazy ignoramuses, right?

  19. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Russia’s top forecasters have warned that extreme weather is predicted to hit the Northern Hemisphere later this year and early January 2021, with a possibility of significant worsening a deepening energy crisis setting in across parts of Europe.”

    • Heating is indeed a very seasonal need. It it is very cold in the Northern Hemisphere, that will require a lot of natural gas. Countries in warmer climates will have a competitive advantage, much more than otherwise.

      • Jimothy says:

        Our issues seem to me to be seasonal, as is our perception of them. Right now a lot of media and analysts bemoan a potentially cold winter, but a few weeks ago the talk of the town was drought and hurricanes, both generally under the purview of warmer climates. I am afraid that everywhere will have its issues.

        And, sometimes the crises appear in unexpected places. A cold snap in Texas and Brazil like last year, or drought in the upper Midwest (a cold weather region)

        A friend in Wisconsin is worried that a hot summer might tank the grid where he’s at. The utilities aren’t used to such high summer peaks, but warmer summers are changing that

    • Xabier says:

      That is in some ways much to be hoped for: prolonged cold weather and frosts are beneficial in so many ways to kitchen gardeners.

      And dare we hope that people will learn to toughen up a little, too?

      • Thanks for the Dec-Jan warning.

        It’s a very nuanced problem though, you see, combo of very low temp and snow is very different from just dry and very low temperatures. Moreover, it also depends on the terrain-gradient ala ice on the road, pavement gets seriously dangerous. Furthermore, it’s leveraged again by the condition of existing infrastructure, are the energy and water pipes buried deep enough, exposed cables sturdy enough not to crack under the weight of ice-snow etc..

    • Mirror on the wall says:

      Winter is coming?

  20. Mirror on the wall says:

    This is a clear example of what Gail has been saying, and it is not that difficult to understand: higher energy prices undermine profitability on a systemic level.

    At the moment, it is local energy companies that are failing, but the higher prices that those energy companies that survive will need to charge to customers, including other companies, will in turn undermine the profitability of those other companies, by increasing their running costs even while reducing the goods that their consumers can afford to buy. Energy is obviously essential to any economy, and the problem of high energy costs will manifest in a capitalist economy as falling profitability, and outright unprofitability and failure.

    To go another step, if other businesses cannot remain profitable with higher energy costs, then the local energy companies will not remain profitable, and ultimately energy extraction and supply will become unprofitable at its source. The price that companies can afford to pay locally, including energy supply companies, may no longer match that price needed to extract and supply the energy, in a profitable manner, in the first place – which is where we are getting to now. Financial jiggery-pokery is going to mask that fundamental problem for only so long.

    The failures have begun to spread to the local energy companies, which may prove a significant step toward system-wide failure.

    > More UK energy suppliers set to fail as wholesale prices soar leaving consumers with rocketing bills

    Britain’s retail energy sector will see more failures from suppliers and increased market consolidation due to a sharp rise in wholesale energy prices, rating agency Moody’s said today.

    The sector faces pressures on profitability and an increased risk of credit negative political intervention, the agency added.

    Nine British energy suppliers ceased trading last month alone. Smaller suppliers with less capital are struggling amid record wholesale power and gas prices across Britain and Europe, while price caps prevent the full rises from being passed on to consumers.

    Experts believe that if gas prices remain at around this level, which is now predicted, the average household energy bills could jump by as much as a third or £420 to almost £1,700 a year from April. Today the cheapest fixed gas and electricity deal available in the UK is £1,700 – a month ago it was £1,177.

    Ofgem will automatically move customers when companies go to the wall. But energy market rules demand that customers whose supplier goes bust must be offered a fair deal by the new supplier – not the same one they had – meaning they are likely to pay significantly more.

    ‘More (failures) will follow with Renewable Obligation payments due in October,’ Moody’s said.

    British ministers are also looking at a range of options to help companies such as National Grid Plc (NG.L), Centrica Plc (CNA.L), EDF (EDF.PA) that have taken on a flood of customers from failed suppliers.

    Profitability at those firms will be affected until higher prices are passed on to customers, Moody’s said.

    • Mirror on the wall says:

      The same problem of falling profitability, due to energy prices, in a global aspect.

      > European stocks stumble amid wild swings for natural gas prices

      “The current energy crunch and rising commodity prices are the worst since the energy crises of 1973 and 1979, and will have a profound impact on companies, households, and inflation. In our view, risks are skewed to the downside in equities and the correction has not even remotely exhausted itself,” said Peter Garnry, head of equity strategy at Saxo Bank in a note to clients.

      “In many countries there are a shortage of workers and interest rates are now also responding to the energy crunch. Everywhere, we look at companies’ profitability under pressure from rising input costs across the whole cost structure. This will be the overreaching theme in the coming Q3 earnings season,” he said.

      • Thanks for pointing these things out, Mirror. Everyone’s budget is stretched when energy prices rise. I expect that there will be more problems than just these failing energy companies. There will be layoffs in companies, in general, because of the rising natural gas and electricity prices, unless the UK tries to temporarily hide this problem. There will also be cutbacks in discretionary spending, which will indirectly lead to poor financial results in many other industries.

        I would wonder if the pound will fall relative to the currencies of those countries doing less badly. If so, this will make imports more expensive.

        If the problem is really worldwide, I would expect recession to follow. This should bring the prices back down, but with great job loss. Of course, now that countries have a pattern for working around job loss, we may see more money printing to try to keep the system going a bit longer, before everything falls apart.

        • MM says:

          About the currency I would say that the Pound might fall earlier because the UK is not really an export powerhouse. The EU might fall later. Still they produce some valuable stuff for other countries (Germany) but the Asian countries are picking up speed to switch from “light processed raw matrials exported to the EU for high valued finished goods” to producing their own finished goods that have higher chance of purchase for the markets with limited purchasing power. Also a death spiral.
          This will only level out in a very long term, maybe decades if we can keep the system together for a while on other energy inputs what the media is proud to declare easy every day.
          We will see. It is not yet clear if we have a long or short term process at work here. One thing is sure: a lot of companies will get under water with this. But that is what Klausi and his friends ordered, so we can not even say (yet) if this is a physical issue or a market maniputaion issue…

          Btw: you noticed, that Klausi also wants to transform the food sector that will come in full blown troubles quite a while after the energy sector. We see JMG and Koronowicz and we see Klausi at work here. To this date both “graphs” still match…

  21. Does anyone know what to make of this tweet from Art Berman? Carbon emissions are rising while energy usage is going down. I had thought that carbon emissions would continue rising no matter what for a few centuries. On twitter it was pointed out to me these data refer to that CO2 sourced from energy. I am not sure how that would be measured though.

    • D. Stevens says:

      Good question. My guess would be erroneous computer models. I noticed many charts based on trends and assumptions of the past are carried forward without critical thinking if the numbers make sense.

    • vbaker says:

      Forests burning? Methane from the seabed?

      • Lidia17 says:

        Thinking back to Gail Zawacki’s investigations.. dying trees release a lot of carbon.

        22. Drought-induced mortality of trees contributes to increased decomposition of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere and decreased sequestration of atmospheric carbon dioxide. Such mortality has been documented throughout the world since at least November 2000 in Nature, with recent summaries in the February 2013 issue of Nature for the tropics, the August 2013 issue of Frontiers in Plant Science for temperate North America, and the 21 August 2015 issue of Science for boreal forests. The situation is exacerbated by pests and disease, as trees stressed by altered environmental conditions become increasingly susceptible to agents such as bark beetles and mistletoe (additional examples abound).

    • I know that if you look at BP’s report of CO2 emissions, it shows that they went down by 6.3% in 2020. In fact, they went down by a very tiny percentage in 2019, as well.

      CO2 emissions fell by 2.1% in 2009, compared to 2008.

      CO2 emissions also fell between 1979 and 1982, when interest rates were high.

      CO2 emissions also fell between 1973 and 1975, when oil prices spiked.

      So falling CO2 emissions, in practice, seem to be pretty common. The modeler got it wrong, I would guess.

      If coal use is reduced, global dimming is reduced, and the atmosphere tends to get warmer. This is likely are recent effect, but that isn’t what is being looked at.

    • Alex says:

      As you’ve found out, the first graph shows only energy-related CO2 emissions, past and future. If we stopped using energy, this value would drop to zero. (You can see the Covid-induced blip on the graph.)

      The second graph shows that carbon intensity, measured as the amount of CO2 emitted per energy unit, is predicted to be going down (e.g., natural gas will be used instead of coal).

      The third graph shows that energy intensity, measured as the amount of energy consumed per dollar of GDP, is predicted to be going down (e.g., financial services will be provided instead of roads built).

      In a nutshell, the prediction is that even if we keep decarbonizing the economy, the total energy-related CO2 emissions will rise anyway.

  22. Mirror on the wall says:

    Barbados has dumped the British monarchy. It will become a republic on December 1.

    1 down, 15 more to go.

    > Barbados to quit British Commonwealth effective December 1

    The Parliament of Barbados has passed by 25 votes to none a Constitutional Amendment whereby the former British colony, which remained within the Commonwealth after its declaration of independence in 1966 will become a republic and thus remove Queen Elizabeth as head of state. The decision will become effective on Dec. 1.

    The new constitutional amendment would revoke the Barbados Order of 1966 as an Order in Council of Her Majesty while keeping the Barbados Constitution otherwise unchanged. It will subsequently provide that a Barbadian citizen shall be the next Head of State and then change the oath of allegiance from that to Her Majesty to now the state of Barbados and will ensure continuity in all of the other aspects about the functioning of the state of Barbados and its government offices, appointments and commissions.

    The new change marks the end of a British head of state in Barbados since English settlers landed there in 1625 and claimed the island for King James I. Barbados is a small Caribbean country with a population of barely 300,000. It was a British colony until 1966, the year in which it became independent and joined the UN, but it remained tied to the British Crown as a member of the Commonwealth.

    • Mirror on the wall says:

      Jamaica is also on the brink of getting rid of ‘Er, and putting an end to all that ‘mental slavery’.

      > Queen on brink after Jamaicans say it’s ‘time to get rid’ of monarch as head of state

      …. A poll by the Jamaica Observer last year found that only 30 percent of Jamaicans supported the Queen remaining as head of state. The figure was a record low. 55 percent of the 1200 respondents said the Queen must go, while the remaining 15 percent said they did not know.

      A Jamaican politician is preparing a petition for compensation that will be “presented to the Queen”, it was reported in July. Jamaica has demanded slavery reparation payments from the Queen, which could run into the billions. Ms Cooper told Vox: “We must recognise that a grave injustice was done and the legacy of that injustice remains. “Britain’s wealth was fuelled by slavery.”

      She added: “Having the Queen as a head of state is a classic example of mental slavery.”

      The legal procedure of removing Her Majesty as Jamaican head of state, also known as the Queen of Jamaica, is a tricky one. Legislation must secure a two thirds majority in both of Jamaica’s Houses of Parliament — the Representatives and the Senate — and then must be put to the Jamaican people in a referendum.

      The matter is deemed “very significant” for Jamaica, as Mark Golding, leader of the country’s People’s National Party, told The Independent. He said: “I think the matters of removing the Queen as our head of state and reparations for slavery are very significant; they’re fundamental to our identity and our nationhood. I don’t think one could argue that we are fully independent when our head of state is somebody who lives on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean and isn’t a Jamaican.”

      He said both his party and the Jamaican Labour Party, which heads up the country’s government, are committed to having a Jamaican person as head of state.

      • Very Far Frank says:

        Jamaica: soon to become ‘New Haiti’

        I’m sure it’ll be a stunning success.

        • Mirror on the wall says:

          Jamaica has been independent since 1962.

          All of the Caribbean has long been independent – why do you hold up Haiti as the paradigm?

    • Another commonwealth country, the Principality of Hutt River, also collapsed last year.

      But, as long as the Big 3 (Can, Aus and NZ) are standing, no one will care.

      • Mirror on the wall says:

        It is only a matter of time before Canada and Australia get around to it. NZ is slower off the mark but it will get there eventually.

  23. Azure Kingfisher says:

    It would be useful to see the full recording. Still, this brief clip (1 minute, 51 seconds) from an October 29, 2019 discussion panel at the Milken Institute is intriguing:

    Fauci illustrates the problem of regulatory constraints with regards to rapid vaccine development. Then Rick Bright, Director, HHS Biomedical Advanced Research & Development (BARDA) ends the clip with this:

    “… It is not too crazy to think that an outbreak of a novel avian virus could occur in China somewhere, we could get the RNA sequence from that, beam it to a number of regional centers, if not local, if not even in your home at some point, and print those vaccines on a patch and self-administer.”

    • Xabier says:

      Hmm. How about: it’s not too crazy to think that they can, if not locally then regionally, even globally, BUGGER OFF!

    • Student says:

      Incredible !


      It is definitely, “How to get around the 10-year review process for a vaccine.”

  24. :Peak oil means higher rents everywhere.

    I predict we will see $10,000/mo rent for 3B, $8,000/mo for 2B, and $5,000 for studio within a couple of years. Of course those who can’t pay need not apply.

    I already talked about 1920s Berlin kicking out undesirables as written in Hans Fallada’s books. In Bombay, 3 to 4 hr commutes, a day, are common since the poor is not welcome in the city. The movie White Tiger was based upon someone who left India and lived outside there for most of his life; servants do NOT live in the same house with the master, but are bused in for hours. and, of course, the cost of commuting is deducted from their wages.

    Sorry, those without properties will see very, very harsh life before you. In the past, immigrants rented a room and 10-15 people lived in there. Such practices are watched like hawk by the landlords, who want to make sure to maximize the profit.

    It will be the landlords’ world. They can just mothball their rental units if they want to increase . If you don’t own a property it might just be better to die now.

    • D. Stevens says:

      I wonder how this will play out. Populations were rapidly growing in much of the past with huge families but if populations were to decline I wonder if we’ll end up with a lot of vacant housing being reclaimed by nature. When declining energy really starts to bite many towns will get cut off while people move to areas which are livable without fossil fuels such as cities located on inland waterways. Some areas might become very expensive while others become worthless. I hear investment firms are buying up single family homes to rent out using near 0% rates so wonder how that will work out for them in the long term. I feel very lucky to own a paid off small home in a walkable village which has existed since the 1700s

      • There will be a lot of vacant housing, just abandoned to be reclaimed, since the landowners will just claim tax losses on these vacant properties while policing it with drones to prevent any squatters.

        It is the landowners’ game, and they would rather live in county estates with no houses in their sights like 1970s soap operas, while the renters live in cramped flats hardly ever maintained.

        If you go to Hong Kong, you see a lot of empty spaces in the New Territories. All of them are owned by the winners who prefer to keep these zones out of the plebs so they can golf, fish or rest when they feel like in in the vast emptiness, leaving the sprawl to the plebs.

  25. CTG says:

    FE’s CEP. I copied this comment from ZH

    This reminds me of reading Dale Allen Pfeiffer’s classic piece of nearly twenty years ago, titled “Eating fossil fuels”.


    NatGas is a major feedstock in producing fertilizer. Fertilizer is in turn required in order to maintain current levels of food production which is again in turn required to maintain current world population levels. The current PLANdemic may well be the chosen way the elites are trying to navigate the inevitable …

    • Interesting point! Nitrogen fertilizer is also made using coal, especially in China.

      A shortage of coal will have a similar effect as a short of natural gas. Also, we know that China has stopped exporting phosphate fertilizer.

      Given the self-organizing way the economy works, a shortage of fossil fuels seems likely to bring down the economy in many ways, simultaneously. I don’t think it would take a whole lot of planning on anyone’s part to start bringing down the food supply.

      • CTG says:

        I trawled through hundreds if not thousands of comments in ZH to search for diamonds in rough.

      • Sam says:

        I believe that we have been running out of phosphate for some time. That was a comment discussion on off 3 years ago

    • Azure Kingfisher says:

      Very interesting.

      Three Choices

      “Considering the utter necessity of population reduction, there are three obvious choices awaiting us.

      “We can-as a society-become aware of our dilemma and consciously make the choice not to add more people to our population. This would be the most welcome of our three options, to choose consciously and with free will to responsibly lower our population. However, this flies in the face of our biological imperative to procreate. It is further complicated by the ability of modern medicine to extend our longevity, and by the refusal of the Religious Right to consider issues of population management. And then, there is a strong business lobby to maintain a high immigration rate in order to hold down the cost of labor. Though this is probably our best choice, it is the option least likely to be chosen.

      “Failing to responsibly lower our population, we can force population cuts through government regulations. Is there any need to mention how distasteful this option would be? How many of us would choose to live in a world of forced sterilization and population quotas enforced under penalty of law? How easily might this lead to a culling of the population utilizing principles of eugenics?

      “This leaves the third choice, which itself presents an unspeakable picture of suffering and death. Should we fail to acknowledge this coming crisis and determine to deal with it, we will be faced with a die-off from which civilization may very possibly never revive. We will very likely lose more than the numbers necessary for sustainability. Under a die-off scenario, conditions will deteriorate so badly that the surviving human population would be a negligible fraction of the present population. And those survivors would suffer from the trauma of living through the death of their civilization, their neighbors, their friends and their families. Those survivors will have seen their world crushed into nothing.

      “The questions we must ask ourselves now are, how can we allow this to happen, and what can we do to prevent it? Does our present lifestyle mean so much to us that we would subject ourselves and our children to this fast approaching tragedy simply for a few more years of conspicuous consumption?”

      The “Clymate Chainge” narrative and Greta Thunburg’s thrust into the spotlight were attempts to get global civilization to commit to option 1.

      The scamdemic and the bio-apartheid now being established through the “vaccine” program and digital passport systems indicate we are currently living through option 2 – which isn’t really an “option” for the public as they do not have a voting say in these measures and governmental force is being applied to them (see Australia for an extreme example). No, there isn’t an exact, parallel example of our living through option 2 as the author describes (e.g. confirmed, forced sterilization and population quota legislation), but there are indirect examples such as government COVID-19 regulations ultimately leading to the exclusion of people from public life and employment opportunities. “Hey, man, no one is forcing those people out of their jobs. They’re choosing not to take the shot so it’s their own fault.” Witness coercive power at work.

      If the author of “Eating Fossil Fuels” is correct, and public officials are aware of the situation as he describes, then perhaps public officials are able to justify their actions in their own minds with regard to lockdowns, digital passports, mask mandates, the bio-apartheid and so on as they are “saving” the public from having to face option 3. For example, a little bird in New Zealand may have said:

      “If you ever find yourself having doubts, Jacinda, just remember that if you do not engage in energy triage your country will destroy itself. Know, too, that many other countries of the world are with you; that their leaders are also doing their part in carrying out the energy triage; that they are sacrificing just as you are. This isn’t just about your country but all countries, together. We are all in this together. We are saving civilization.”

      • Ed says:

        what is this from?

      • metro70 says:

        Your depiction of Australia as ‘an extreme example ‘ of Option2 ie of a world of ‘forced sterilization and population quotas enforced under penalty of law’ is just ridiculous and completely untrue…as is most of the garbage being spread around the world .

        Most of the behavior referenced comes from one state…the state with a Marxist government …the state that wants to cosy up to China and the belt and road scam as cover for its own extreme failures and incompeten ce…the hallmark of Socialist regimes wherever they are,,,as we see in America now…but in America in a far far worse iteration than anything in Australia.

        There are also varying degrees of silliness and disrespect for individuals in some of the other Australian states…not surprising since they all occupy different positions on the Left.

        Overall though …nationally…Australia opted for preservation of life above all…has made some mistakes even in that,,,but in the larger scheme of things Australia has handled the pandemic more competently IMO than most other similar countries….with a massively lower death rate .

        There’s a lot of scaremongering about suicide but Australia’s suicide figures are well down on those of pre-COVID years.

        With the alpha strain the government should have…IMO… just ensured meticulously that all of the very vulnerable were protected while commerce……education etc proceeded as usual…instead of the lockdowns of 2020.

        But with the Delta strain…. that option of avoiding lockdown wasn’t available without risking health system-overload and many more deaths IMO.

        So now ….if there are no super glitches…Australia should by Christmas….be 80-90% fully-vaccinated …with zero ‘forced sterilization’…zero ‘enforced quotas’ or any other horrors …our police will be back in their box and embarrassed about some of their excesses…we’ll be very wary about any new strains emerging…not 100% sure we’ll have no unintended and unmanageable consequences from the vaccines,,,,but we’ll still have with us most of our grandparents and our younger vulnerable ones.

        And although I have lots of other beefs with our government,,,I’ll be very thankful to them for delivering this outcome.

        • Azure Kingfisher says:

          Thanks for your contribution, metro70. I appreciate your clarification regarding a single Australian state being largely responsible for taking extreme measures to address COVID-19.
          However, I didn’t argue that Australia is engaging in forced sterilization and population quotas. Instead, I wrote:

          “No, there isn’t an exact, parallel example of our living through option 2 as the author describes (e.g. confirmed, forced sterilization and population quota legislation), but there are indirect examples such as government COVID-19 regulations ultimately leading to the exclusion of people from public life and employment opportunities.”

          If the desired end results of the global “vaccine” program include sterilization and population limits, these can both be achieved voluntarily, at least until the public catches on and outright refuses en masse. There isn’t long-term data available to prove that the “vaccines” are incapable of negatively impacting fertility, especially among the young. This remains an open question and is thus a possible outcome for “vaccine” recipients.
          Secondly, reproductive opportunities will be considerably limited for anyone opting out of “vaccination,” so long as their doing so results in their effective removal from public life (e.g., no jab, no job; no job no housing; no housing no family formation, etc.)
          So, at present there is not “forced sterilization and population quotas enforced under penalty of law” in Australia or anywhere else in the world – of course not. The current global “vaccine” program is technically, legally, a voluntary program.

          Regarding your hope that, “…Australia should by Christmas….be 80-90% fully-vaccinated …with zero ‘forced sterilization’ …zero ‘enforced quotas’ or any other horrors …our police will be back in their box and embarrassed about some of their excesses…we’ll be very wary about any new strains emerging …not 100% sure we’ll have no unintended and unmanageable consequences from the vaccines… but we’ll still have with us most of our grandparents and our younger vulnerable ones,” I can only hope that you and your friends and family will experience positive outcomes. However, I fail to see how an 80-90% “fully-vaccinated” population is going to solve the COVID-19 problem in light of CDC Director Rochelle Walensky’s recent comment on CNN:

          “‘Our vaccines are working exceptionally well. They continue to work well for Delta with regard to severe illness and death – they prevent it, but what they can’t do anymore is prevent transmission,’ she told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer.”

          If you still support widespread “vaccination” after such a statement, then I assume the argument would be “if everyone has the shot then transmission doesn’t matter anymore because, even when infected, the ‘vaccine’ recipient would be protected against ‘severe illness and death.'” What’s missing from this argument is appreciation for available, effective “vaccine” alternatives like Ivermectin and natural immunity conferred through COVID-19 recovery.
          Additionally, if the COVID-19 recovery rate is between 97% and 99.75% (WebMD), then why the insistence on mandating the “vaccines?” I remember originally the push to get the “vaccine” was to “protect Grandma” and other at-risk members of the population (mostly elderly, those suffering from underlying conditions, and the immunocompromised). But given that transmission is no longer preventable through “vaccination,” according to Walensky, we cannot “protect Grandma” by getting injected. You could make a case that “Grandma” may protect herself by getting injected if she’s immunocompromised, has underlying health conditions, or simply deems the 97% to 99.75% recovery rate too risky to gamble with, but I don’t see how you could make a case in favor of an entire nation’s population receiving the “vaccines” at this time.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          And here in NZ we’ve got our own Melbourne… Auckland won’t be emerging from this any time soon

          Tourism operators must be gasping for oxygen now … they lost their biggest market – Australia – in June and now this …

  26. Rodster says:

    “That Untraversed Land” by JMG

    • Rodster says:

      An excellent read on the subject to Limits of Growth. He also goes on to explain in simple terms like Gail does to show how energy is needed along every step of the way and why we now have such a shortage of labor in different parts of the world. But if you are looking for the tl;dr version, queue up Johnny Paycheck “Take This Job And Shove It”.

      • JMS says:

        Let’s put some speed & fury on that song.

      • Jon F says:

        He makes some great points. I work in the UK construction industry. We have so many middlemen, box-tickers, compliance officers etc. who are making a nice living while producing zero. I accept that we live in litigious times and therefore a certain level of health and safety is needed to save people from themselves, but in my opinion it’s all went too far. The big commercial sites are soul-crushing work environments.

        As I see it, one of the upsides of the low energy world to come, is that a lot of these non-producer jobs will vanish.

        • i agree

          problem is, in a ‘low energy’ world, the extent, style and sophistication of construction will be keyed into the speed at which trees grow

    • I would tend to say “too much wage disparity,” but John Michael Greer describes the root cause of the problem as the many layers (or perhaps players) that are now involved in any productive encounter, with the many layers each taking a cut out of the transaction. In a sense, it is too much complexity. We can’t do anything in a simple way any more. Fixing a person’s lawn now takes a truckload of different equipment and at least a couple of workers. Someone else comes by with chemicals to spread on the lawn.

      It is indeed a sad situation. People are quitting. At least part of the problem (not mentioned by JMG) is the lack of dependable daycare provided by the school system in the past. Now, if someone tests positive for COVID, too often the whole class must quarantine for 10 days. There are also teacher work days and one week breaks, now and then, through out the school year, so the student won’t forget as much over the summer.

      • Artleads says:

        It’s still unclear to this reader how something can be diagnosed as COVID when the tests use for diagnosis were not created for said purpose. Neither is it clear whether there is a reliable and trustworthy explanation of what COVID is.

  27. Student says:

    Jerusalem Post: Aspirin reduces severe Covid.
    The same conclusion has been anticipated since along ago by various international associations suggesting early medical treatments against Covid (such as FLCCC, and others). But Aspirin is included also in many early treatments from various States who add also Ivermectin to their early treatments for people.

    Please see:

    • The benefits are much larger than I would have guessed:

      The treatment reduced the risk of reaching mechanical ventilation by 44%. ICU admissions were lower by 43%, and an overall in-hospital mortality saw a 47% decrease. . .

      In addition to its effect on blood clots, they [researchers] found that aspirin carried immunological benefits and that the group taking it was 29% less likely to become infected with the virus in the first place.

  28. jodytishmack says:

    Thomas L. Friedman wrote a good opinion piece about the energy crisis coming this winter and ramifications.

    • I didn’t really agree with this editorial. I don’t think that there is any way at all that intermittent renewables can be made to power our economy. Carbon taxes can’t fix the problem. Wind, solar, and hydro are all extenders of the fossil fuel system, as is nuclear. Without fossil fuels, we lose all of them. In theory, if the problem were 100 years away, there might be something we could come up with, but our problem is a here and now problem.

      • metro70 says:

        I agree with you Gail.

        As we see right now in Norway’s water shortage …even huge hydro is …in the end …weather-dependent…as are pumped hydro and that other prop for RE …big batteries that must be recharged by weather-dependent RE in the absence of fossil fuels.

        Norway has warned that it may fall short of its own energy needs for Winter …let alone have enough to supply UK and Europe.

        The only cheap reliable weather-independent energy sources…. apart from nuclear power …are coal and gas….and gas is more expensive…and by the time it’s extracted and processed and shipped …and has leakage from retired wells factored in…its CO2-equivalent emissions are no less and some experts say are MORE than those from coal.

        And in any case the emissions …SF6 and NF3…from manufacture of wind turbines and solar panels are thousands of times more potent than those from coal.

        Australia’s RMIT has a CCC breakthrough in converting CO2 to solid carbon at room temperature …..but such is the maniacal obsession with killing coal to pretend that the world can be run by the weather…that it seems to be an unmentionable.

        In militant denial as always…Friedman says the current European problem is ‘too little clean energy’,,,but seems to think the whole world could be covered in windmills …massive concrete plugs defiling every landscape and sea bed…and solar panels covering all the rest….and all would be sweet…..except that the world would not have enough food.

        Like all Socialists he dreams only of getting more of other people’s money …knowing but pretending not to,,,that it would never be enough as it never is….but it would buy time of course for the already unfathomably rich to become richer still before it all goes down in a screaming heap after they’ve moved on with their billions to the next scam.

        Friedman cannot be unaware that amongst other UNIPCC officials, Christiana Figueres said…

        [ “This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ­ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time, to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial ­Revolution.
        “This is probably the most difficult task we have ever given ourselves, which is to ­intentionally transform the economic development model for the first time in human ­history.” ]

        …..and UN IPCC official Ottmar Edenhofer before Cancun :

        [ “… we redistribute de facto the world’s wealth by climate policy. Obviously, the owners of coal and oil will not be enthusiastic about this. One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with environmental policy anymore…” ]

        and…[ ‘most of the fossil reserves must remain in the soil. means an expropriation of the countries with natural resources.’ ]

        It’s not about anything but their Great Reset to Global Socialism….IMO.

        • Thanks very much for your fine comment. I didn’t realize how severe Norway’s energy problems were.

          Norway has warned that it may fall short of its own energy needs for Winter …let alone have enough to supply UK and Europe.

          I think that all of the climate change views about leaving fossil fuels in the ground are recognition of the fact that we can’t actually get much of these fossil fuels out. It is hard to get total “demand” high enough. We can somewhat shift from coal to natural gas, for example, and leave more coal in the ground and take more natural gas out, but in the end, we can get very little out. It is this problem that we are up against right now.

        • This is quite surprising statement, considering the fact that increasing part of Europe (Germany, UK, Netherlands) is treating Norway as energy storage to balance RE sources intermittency:

          Norway’s electricity production is almost exclusively hydropower-based and its large reservoirs mean it can control its renewable energy generation and also help plug shortfalls in Germany’s intermittent supply from wind and solar plants.

          The cable will help turn Norway, which is also Western Europe’s largest oil and gas exporter, into a green energy hub for the region, the new head of state-owned transmission system operator (TSO) Statnett told Reuters.

          “NordLink is not just a bilateral German-Norwegian project but we are also setting a milestone for a modern energy supply in all of Europe,” German Chancellor Angela Merkel said.

          end quote.

          • metro70 says:

            [ ‘Just days after the world’s longest under-sea power cable began transferring hydroelectric energy from Norway to the UK, there are now concerns the Norwegians won’t have enough for themselves, as an energy crisis hits Northern Europe, due to lack of water.

            Nordic countries currently face worsening energy security as reservoirs providing the water for hydroelectric power generation are running dry.

            As a result, energy prices are soaring. ‘ ]


            [ ‘(Bloomberg) — As the frontier of Europe’s energy crisis moves north, dwindling water stocks are exacerbating the squeeze in the Nordic region.

            Nordic power prices were five times higher in September than a year ago. That’s hitting everyone from power-hungry factories and miners, to students struggling with their bills. Inflation is rocketing.’ ]

          • metro70 says:

            Hydro experts were warning Europe some years ago that it was not safe to rely on Norway as the ‘battery for Europe’ as it experiences droughts and may not have enough for itself if contracted to Europe.

            • Thanks for sharing. I wasn’t aware of these warnings. It looked like inexhaustible potential. Like in all nature there are no ‘infinite resources’.

            • Could you please point me to the source of this hypothesis, please?

              I’ve found just this publication:

              Within Europe, Norway leads hydropower production with over 120 TWh generated
              annually.71 This equates to about 99 percent of the country’s electricity generation, and
              nearly 20 percent of total hydropower production in Europe (excluding Russia). Because
              of its mountainous terrain, Norway is well suited for large reservoirs that can balance long-
              term seasonal variations in flow to provide relatively high and stable production
              capacities.72 Sweden, in contrast, generates approximately 70 TWh per year, or roughly
              half of its total electricity generation, from hydropower. This power comes mostly from
              run-of river facilities, which are susceptible to temporal flow variability, so the remainder
              of Sweden’s electricity production comes from nuclear power, a more stable source.73
              Norway and Sweden have joined Finland and Denmark, which use mostly fossil fuels and
              little hydropower, in an energy union with an integrated wholesale market.

  29. jj says:

    Somehow its just not as funny now.

  30. Minority of One says:

    Europe and the UK face a winter energy crisis as gas price increases intensify

    Some interesting snippets.

    “Natural gas prices in the UK and Europe soared again on Wednesday to trade at about 10 times their level at the beginning of the year,”

    “UK gas contracts for November delivery rose nearly 40 per cent as operations opened to reach over £ 4 per therm, having started the year below 50p. The contract started the week at £ 2.40 per therm.”

    “Gas prices are also at record levels in Europe and Asia, while the price of coal, which is used to generate electricity and for heating, has surpassed its all-time high set in 2008.”

    “European gas contracts for November delivery rose nearly 25 percent on Wednesday to 155 euros a megawatt hour, up from 18 euros six months ago.”

    Note the following negative spin on: Russia is meeting its long-term contractual obligations

    “Traders have pointed to lower supplies from Russia, which has repeatedly refused to sell gas beyond its long-term contractual obligations.”

    Putin did his PhD on global gas supplies. Just maybe he is thinking – let’s hold some back for a rainy day. Unlike the buffoon that runs the UK who does know his long-term contract arse from his spot elbow.

    This sums it up nicely for UK and Europe:

    “Domestic gas production in Europe has also fallen dramatically [over the last 15 years or so], while demand in Asia has increased as countries increasingly seek alternatives to highly polluting coal, creating a bidding war for shipments of liquefied natural gas.”

    It is the ‘bidding wars’ for LNG that could / will take natural gas prices way beyond their current very high prices.

    And here is how the politicians are going to fix the issue:

    ‘ “There is no doubt that we have to take political action,” EU energy commissioner Kadri Simson told the EU parliament.’

    It would seem that the UK’s Boris Johnson is not the only buffoon in town.

    • drb says:

      Wait, MoO, I am possibly hopelessly behind. Natgas prices are up a factor of four from one year ago. Where is the factor of ten coming from?

      • Minority of One says:

        I seem to remember seeing a graph last week of gas prices for the UK over the last year, and how high the prices have gone up (4x or 10x) depended on from where in the graph the lowest price was selected. To get 4x, I think that was a piece of propaganda to make the situation seem less bad than it is. A relatively recent low point was selected. But if you went back further, to the lowest price for the year, you can get a rise of 10x. I will see if I can find such a graph.

    • Minority of One says:

      Unlike the buffoon that runs the UK who does NOT know his long-term contract arse from his spot elbow.

    • Ed says:

      Life long bureaucrats have lost tough with reality.

      ‘ “There is no doubt that we have to take political action,” EU energy commissioner Kadri Simson told the EU parliament.’

  31. Alex says:

    Excerpts from

    “The combined market cap of the top six US banking institutions has risen from $200 billion at the bottom of the financial crisis during the winter of 2008-2009, where it reflected their true value absent government bailouts, to $1.5 trillion recently.

    On average, the after-inflation yield during the 11-year period was -1.40%. Upwards of one-fifth of the real wealth of depositors has been seized by Fed-enabled bankers during the last decade alone. We doubt whether a more perverse reverse Robinhood redistribution could be imagined.

    In a word, the nation’s bankers not only emerged unscathed from the Great Financial crisis owing to the Washington and Fed bailouts, but during the following decade surely believed they had died and gone to bankers’ heaven. For essentially doing nothing other than scooping up their share of the tsunami of corporate and government debt and collecting nearly cost-free deposits, the net margin of the banking system rose by $122 billion per annum or 30%.

    Not in a million years would this have happened under a regime of sound money and honest free market pricing in the money and capital markets.”

    • The wealth seems to rise to the top. The banks take advantage of every opportunity available to them.

      We have had a K shaped recovery, with the banks participating in the top of the K.

  32. jj says:

    The 12.5 mg dose that India widely distributed is indeed what would be considered a high dose based on ivermectins previous usages. It would seem that this dose is becoming a somewhat standard dose for covid 19.

    Ivermectin actually stops the virus from spreading the virus which the vaccines only inhibit. Ivermectin doesnt mask syptoms like the vaccines which create super spreaders.
    ivermectin is a drug with a incredible record of safety. Sold over the counter in the third world.

    Why must this be mutally exclusive? Let those that wish to experiment with the gene therapy vaccines do so. Let those who wish to use Ivermectin do so.

    If the point is to get the pandemic behind us why would you discard such a clearly effective tool such as ivermectin? The vaccines are neither safe or effective. Do we really want to institute a paradigm where gain of function research introduces a disease and a cure for fun and profit?

    These are some data points for ivermectin used prophylactic. The 12mg dose is extremly effective used as a prophylactic. Why are we not allowing people to use a prophylactic dose of ivermectin if they choose? The pandemic would end. Thousands of lives would be saved a gruesome death.

    Of course the answer is apparent. The emergency authorization of the experimental gene therapy so called vaccines is illegal if there is a safe treatment available. Amazingly the institutions have chosen to kill people and not end the pandemic in order to allow a cash cow experimental gene therapy that in itself is causing many injuries.

    lam MT. Bangladesh
    European J Med Hlth Sciences
    Health Care Workers
    12mg Monthly 6.9% vs. 73.3%, p<.05

    Carvallo H. Argentina
    Journal of Biochemical Research and Investigation
    Health Care Workers
    12 mg Once weekly for up to ten weeks
    0.0% of the 788 workers taking ivermectin vs. 58% of the 407 controls contracted COVID-19.

    • The two studies you quote show that a single high dose of ivermectin, once a week or even once a month, seems to stop COVID in its tracks!

      • Xabier says:

        Hitting Covid ‘early and hard’ with ivermectin-based protocols works it seems, far better than precipitate lock-downs.

        The indefatigable McCullough has made some excellent presentations on this recently, and Dr Malone approves.

    • I found this link for the first article you mention:

      Ivermectin as Pre-exposure Prophylaxis for COVID-19 among Healthcare Providers in a Selected Tertiary Hospital in Dhaka – An Observational Study

      Mohammed Tarek Alam et al. (Bangladesh)

      Method: An observational study, with 118 healthcare providers who were enrolled purposively, was conducted in a tertiary hospital in Dhaka from May 2020 to August 2020. The subjects were divided into experimental and control groups; and the experimental group received an oral monthly dose of Ivermectin 12mg for 4 months. Both groups were exposed to COVID-19 positive patients admitted in the hospital during the course of study. The symptomatic subjects were evaluated by physical examination, COVID-19 RT-PCR and/or HRCT of chest. Differences between the variables were determined using the Chi-square test and the level of statistical significance was reached when p<0.05.

      Result: 73.3% (44 out of 60) subjects in control group were positive for COVID-19, whereas only 6.9% (4 out of 58) of the experimental group were diagnosed with COVID-19 (p-value < 0.05). Conclusion: Ivermectin, an FDA-approved, safe, cheap and widely available drug, should be subjected to large-scale trials all over the world to ascertain its effectiveness as pre-exposure prophylaxis for COVID-19.

      • jj says:

        I would pay to participate in a large scale trial for Ivermectin. If a large portion of the population were to go on a 12mg monthly regiment the pandemic is over. Just like that. Educate people why late treatment is a losing game. Allow Ivermectin over the counter. Educate about Vitamin D and Zinc. Its over. Just like that.

        Thats all they have to do. Allow ivermectin, educate and step back. Pandemic over. They are not doing that.

        What hit India was “delta” Ivermectin was and is incredibly effective in India. Ivermectin thus demonstrates that it is very effective against variants not just the original virus which we already knew.

        In the meantime we continue to to mandate a ineffective and unsafe experimental so called vaccine. A “vaccine” that still allows infection and transmission in the “vaccinated”. A “vaccine” that doesnt work against variants and is probably creating them. A “vaccine” that has bypassed the legally required safety testing because of an emergency authorization that is illegal. A “vaccine” that only claim to fame is that it prevents severe outcomes.

        Thats not a vaccine. A vaccine eradicates the disease it is targeting by denying it hosts. Dropping the R0, the number of people each person infected infects. . No more discussions about dropping the R0 anymore because the “vaccines” dont do that.

        A extremely safe and effective drug that ends the pandemic vs a extremely unsafe and ineffective drug that does not end the pandemic. The latter is being mandated.

        Many many people are dieing because of this policy. You are over 20 times likely to die in the USA from covid than India because of this policy.

        A safe effective treatment for covid 19 exists in Ivermectin a drug that won the Nobel prize. This has been proven in hundreds of clinical trials around the world and now in the rather large population of India. The emergency authorization that allows bypass of safety testing and to distribute and administer the experimental “vaccines” is illegal.

  33. Mrs S says:

    I live in a rural part of the north of England. Today has been the 6th power cut this month.

    In my village hundreds of new houses have been built.The new houses are powered only by electricity….they are not hooked up to mains gas as per zero carbon rules (gas boilers to be phased out by 2030) and they have no chimneys.

    Surprise surprise, the demand from the hundreds of new electric houses is overloading the electric transmission system.

    The idea that people are also going to plug their cars into the electricity grid is ludicrous.

    • Good points!

      A person wonders who ever thought through the idea of claiming that electricity would solve all of our problems. Putting all of a person’s eggs in one basket doesn’t really work.

      I expect that these smaller outages aren’t widely reported, either.

    • Well charging slowly by the night (off peak hours) is one thing..

      Don’t tell anyone, it can get worse!
      For one thing, isn’t there busy route nearby, because should they install array of fast charging infrastructure near your place (highway or vacation spot), just single stand takes 150kW or more, now multiply by 3-6-12x or whatever number charger installed at the lot, obviously there won’t be all high end carz (cheaper carz = charging slower) loading up simultaneously but it could eventually overload the local grid nevertheless at specific point in time in region with shaky grid..

    • jodytishmack says:

      Perhaps people who bought the homes should have also included roof top solar energy and back up batteries.

    • Minority of One says:

      Interesting, have not of heard that before. Out of curiosity, when do the power cuts occur and for how long? Does this effect goods in your freezer?

      • Mrs S says:

        Usually it’s for a couple of hours.

        Today it was from 9am to 2pm. I work from home and was unable to do anything. Luckily I have a gas stove and a log burner so I can keep warm and make hot drinks.

        There are several small businesses in my village – like the mechanic who owns a small garage. He had two cars up on ramps all day, unable to do anything.

        • Not sure if ~three phase~ connection from the grid is a thing in the UK, assuming it should be comparable to the EU-continental system though. Using renewables + batt storage gets significantly more expensive when feeding 3ph (such as heavier machinery like in the example of car mechanic-repair shop) vs ordinary low amperage single phase just for few small domestic appliances (wash machine, fridge).. Yes, it’s doable, but if everybody should need such extra backup it would be crazy.. basically additional huge drag-taxation on the shoulders of everybody..

  34. CTG says:

    I have a question to ask. It may sound stupid. Other than UK which has their own “HGV driver shortage” (purportedly), Are there any shortage of oil or crude oil? Why is the price of Brent / WTI is so high? devalued fiat or real supply issue or speculation?

    • One question I have is, “Is the UK shortage of diesel or of oil in general?”

      The UK made the poor choice of recommending the use of diesel-powered personal automobiles. Now it is very dependent on the availability of diesel imports, since commercial vehicles use diesel as well.

      There is also the issue of the financial condition of one of UK’s largest refineries, going by the name of Stanley Oil Refinery (Owned by Essar Energy, another name a person will also see) is functioning adequately. Is it able to buy the crude oil it needs and refine it? The refinery has a capacity of 296,000 barrels per day.

      This article from Reuters seems to indicate that the high prices relate particularly to “Middle Distillates.” These would include diesel and jet fuel. So, this would also suggest that the UK’s choice of fuels might feed into the problem.

      • CTG says:

        I mean in general Brent is like $80+. What fundamentals? Tourism is dead and international flights are still almost non existence. I am not talking about UK alone but worldwide

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Yes what is driving these prices…. perhaps due to high gas prices those that can are swapping over to oil…

          If that is correct then we are in very dangerous waters… something has to give.

      • drb says:

        Excellent point Gail, and I would give you a like if I did not have to fill so much paperwork to do so. Diesel, IMHO, is the real oil bottleneck, as demand for it is a lot more inelastic than the other fractions.

        On two visits to Italy in the 4 months I saw from the airplane that oilseeds are heavily planted in Northern Italy, far more than in years past. Both canola and sunflower are easily identifiable when blooming. The ground view was the exact same (I come from a village there).

        IMHO, what is happening is that (non-purified) kerosene saved from the airline industry debacle is made into diesel by adding some heating oil and some biodiesel (kerosene carbon chain is 10-16 carbon atoms, and IIRC diesel is 12-20). Biodiesel is almost solely 16 and heating oil, I am guessing, 16-24. This (new cropland devoted to fuel), and not urea (yet), may be the cause for grains, chicken and pork shortages. Yet another of them knock on effects. And I think we are really scraping the bottom of the barrel.

      • where i live, there were long queues for petrol and diesel, following panic buying

        since the weekend things have got back to normal, though i believe the london area is still suffering from shortages.

    • Minority of One says:

      That I am aware of, Brent is one of the best qualities of blends in the world (there are dozens), and all oil produced offshore UK is exported. The UK’s refineries cannot handle this particular blend, so imports most or all of its crude requirements. Not that this really answers your question. But I believe that all blends are going up in price. Not sure why. Good question.

  35. jodytishmack says:

    I thought this was an interesting article “The Energy Transition will take Decades, not years.”
    The writer makes some good observations about the difficulty of making the transition to renewable energy if fossil fuels are too expensive, under invested, or unavailable. She didn’t mention that severe weather disasters are likely to get worse and we may not have decades to make the transition.
    She made another point that may be the most relevant. “Economies are recovering post-COVID, and consumer habits haven’t changed all that much: consumers still want a warm home, power, the latest tech gadgets, and to be able to freely travel and spend money.”
    This is the biggest problem, IMO, people unwilling (or unable) to change their lifestyles. This winter we will live with the consequences of high energy costs and declining goods and services along with whatever new outcome this brings.

    • It is good that the author is making the point, “The energy transition will take decades, not years.” I suppose I would add, if it can be done at all.

      What the author doesn’t point out is that the energy needs of the system are pretty much baked into the system, just as the number of calories a human needs to eat are baked into our metabolism. Voluntary cutbacks, like going on a diet, may reduce weight for a while, but the result, far more often than not, is a bounce back in weight later.

      Renewables are nowhere near where we would need to be, to power the economy. It is not clear to me that they are producing any “net energy” at all. If they were producing net energy, they would be paying substantial taxes to pass on this net energy to others. I have seen no evidence that this is the case.

      At best, renewables are temporary extenders of the fossil fuel system. Once the fossil fuel energy system goes down, they go down as well because maintenance of all kinds of things (transmission lines, for example) becomes impossible.

      • jodytishmack says:

        Yes, the “if possible” is an important point. It is certainly not possible to power our current economic system, but does that mean it can’t be used to power a lower energy system? That population would have to be much smaller and who knows what technology they will be able to use. There was an interesting historical recreation series called “Tudor Monastery Farm” You can still find episodes on YouTube. The thing I loved about the series was seeing how people in 15th c England lived and the technology they used. My favorite was building a wattle fence. Every time I prune a bush or cut down a tree and see it regrow new stems I think of making a wattle fence.

        I agree that renewable energy is only a bridge, but it might make a huge difference if we have another few decades as a bridge. Solar is cheap enough and robust enough technology that installed on our homes it can keep them running for several decades. We would be insulated from rising utility costs and power outages.

        I can’t help but wonder why people think our current economic system is worth holding onto? It waste so much resources, and degrades or destroys so much of what is actually beautiful in the world. In some ways it reminds me of the current US health care system, which is really an overpriced, disease care system that generates profits for some but doesn’t make us healthier or happier. Perhaps the few humans who may survive a collapse of our current system will find a way to make a better world.

        • metro70 says:

          A dystopian view , Jody…..when there has never even been any proof or evidence that the little bit of warming there reportedly is …could only have been caused by CO2.

          The fact is that the warming that ended the Little Ice Age preceded CO2 rise by hundreds of years…not the other way around.

          There is no CAGW trend that could only have been caused by CO2 and not by the natural oscillations.

          Considering the number of windmills that would be needed…..each one set in a massive concrete plug reaching tens of metres into the ground or the ocean bed…each a killer of bats and birds and a destroyer of the lives of people unfortunate enough to live too close to them…considering the beautiful landscapes defiled by them…and the fact that they and solar panels are relatively short-lived and disposal of them creates
          an enormous toxic waste problem for the world…how can you say it’s the ‘current economic system’ that destroys what’s beautiful in the world?

          Presumably you would replace the ‘current economic system ie capitalism…..with Socialism/Marxism/Communism….which the World Economic Forum prescribes for us….since they tell us we will ‘own nothing’ and ‘we will be happy’…the same old fairytale/nightmare spun by the various Socialist regimes just before the slaughter begins… the millions.

          If you saw the terrible… effectively permanent ….devastation to the landscape by the mining and processing of rare earths for wind turbines and solar panels in China…and read about the ruined lives of the workers there…and those who’ve died….you might not see RE as a pathway to ‘a better world’.

          This is not a ‘build back better’ scenario….as you admit with the world bereft of people that you propose……’s a collective insanity …yet another virus ….worse than COVID….that’s been unleashed on the world by those who are always waiting in the wings for another opportunity to control other people’s lives.

          • capitalism is going to destroy us

            but we must not expect any other ‘ism’ to replace it and save us. There isn’t one.

            Capitalism can only function on the infinite availability of cheap surplus energy. Which is a nonsense. Vote for a capitalist system if you must, but votes wont alter that law.

            it isn’t possible to have an economic system based on taking in each others washing, and mending each other’s shoes

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Oh dont worry wolf won’t ask you to mend his shoes… just shine them… you will enjoy it…

            • keep at it eddy

              your reply rate will be at parity by new year

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Wouldn’t you prefer environs that are more welcoming … more friendly …

              Go to the Home of MOREONS… go to Wolfstreet.

            • Replenish says:

              My mentor told me to “vote with my feet.” I figured I could be part of the solution so years ago, I wrote a grant to the Echoing Green foundation to create a web portal for developing a labor credit accounting system like a “green stamp,” an alternative social network and a heat map for visualizing bottom-up, grassroots activity for improving our communities..

              Back in the late 90’s, I briefly met Paul Glover concerning the Ithaca Hours currency and Healthcare Coop, visited communities and contributed to some Central PA causes fighting institutional corruption, corporate dominance and an EPA designated top-dioxin producing municipal waste facility.

              Now I see that not only is the system too complex and time is short for creating a solution but there is a sophisticated program to target, discredit and destroy effective leadership and besides people would rather argue with each other and defend memes and talking points subconsciously loaded by the same control matrix.

              Best to be kind to your fellow man, respect the planet and live within your means while this all plays out. Spend some time outdoors and with the grandkids. My grandpa’s shoe shine box is in my bedroom next to a wooden bench my father made me and an old one-piece desk from my grandma’s city school. I will shine both your shoes with a smile. Thanks for reading!

  36. Fast Eddy says:

    This week the wholesale price of electricity has exceeded the psychological barrier of 200 euros per megawatt hour in most countries of the European Union. Although the daily price currently only affects 15% of the energy sold, since the rest is locked for almost twelve months since last winter at much lower prices, it is a sign of future risk. Thousands of contracts are going to have to be revised with huge price increases in the next three months when the locked contracts expire.

    The price of liquefied natural gas (LNG) has soared to $34/mmbtu delivered in December and January. In comparable energy terms it would be about $197 per barrel of oil equivalent, according to Morgan Stanley. Meanwhile, the price of natural gas (NBP) has risen more than 200% in 2021.

    • In the US, quite a few utilities have the option of switching to oil-generated electricity, at least for a while, if natural gas supplies are unavailable or too expensive. Oil is easy to store, and electricity generation using oil is inexpensive. Of course, this is just for topping off needed electricity generation in a very cold spell, when supplies can’t keep up. It can’t last very long.

      The UK needs some approach as well.

    • BahamasEd says:

      “Although the daily price currently only affects 15% of the energy sold, since the rest is locked for almost twelve months since last winter at much lower prices, it is a sign of future risk.”

      Somebody is eating that price differences right now, not at some future date.

      There is no free lunch, somebody always pays

      • Actually, at some point the system can “break,” and the ones affected may be very different.

        We are seeing the many sellers of energy in the UK that are failing because of the price changes. But the effect can be much wider. Governments can eventually collapse.

        Banks can collapse. Even international trade can be greatly lessened.

    • According to the article,

      The astronomical rise in natgas futures makes one wonder if the move is now being driven by the world’s top commodity trading houses, who have all been crushed by a spread (or arbitrage trade) gone wrong. The strategy backfired, and many small-to-mid-sized trading firms are likely facing margin calls on a scale not seen before.

      I see a Wall Street Journal article saying that stock prices look likely to fall today. Maybe a little of this information is starting to sink in.

  37. Fast Eddy says:

    For the American industrial complex that requires natural gas to produce goods and services our nation needs, and for the average American citizen relying on natural gas to keep warm, it is going to be a very long, cold, expensive winter. Most residential buyers in the northeast will pay over $25/MCF for natural gas this year.

    For two decades the American public has been spoon fed rhetoric about “unlimited shale resources,” that we “no longer have to worry about conserving hydrocarbons,” that America will be “energy independent” and that there is so much shale oil and gas in America we can export it all over the world to improve foreign policy and globalize America’s new found shale wealth to the betterment of all mankind.

    It was a lie. $79 crude oil, $4 gasoline and $6.50 per MMBTU natural gas proves that.

    The shale industry will blame politics, investors demanding returns (the nerve!), Wall Street, a little bug that looks like a dog toy; whatever. The fact is the stuff is expensive to get out of the ground, declines like a ship anchor dropped at sea and is marginally profitable, at best. That’s the nature of the stuff; why lie about it over and over again?

    • jodytishmack says:

      I keep watching to see when any of this is going to hit main stream news in the US. Everyone seems focused on Washington drama over the debt ceiling. They’ve done this so many times now it is getting old. Who will blink first? While the children are bickering, an actual disaster is approaching.
      I suspect the US leaders assume we are insulated from the historic energy costs the rest of the world is currently seeing. What makes us think energy companies in the US won’t sell to the highest bidder elsewhere?

      • Fast Eddy says:

        The thing is ..

        They have to keep the world markets supplied… hoarding the gas and denying it to other key countries will collapse those countries…. which would in turn collapse BAU….

    • The Oily Stuff Blog also talks about falling drilling productivity in the Appalachian Basin. This is where a lot of the natural gas is coming from. Look at Figure 8 above. This will act to push US natural gas production down in the not too distant future. I imagine when depends on price. If the price stays high, it may stay up. But drilling isn’t as high as it needs to be to stay up, according to the blog.

      • JesseJames says:

        Gail, I have again encountered the argument that the US has a Strategic oil reserve consisting of drilled but capped oil wells…enough to provide oil for a “Hundred years”. I think this is bogus but do you have factual data to refute this?

        • These folks are expecting $400 per barrel oil and intact supply lines of all kinds. I don’t think that such a system really is possible.

          Oil wells that can deliver tiny amounts of oil (and large amounts of water) historically have not been capped in the US. There seem to be enough tax breaks that it makes sense for “stripper wells” to operate.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        While mike is wrong in his assertion that the US should not export their dwindling energy … it is worth noting he sentiments on where this is header… when a life long oil man says something like this … people need to pay attention

        For many years I have written about OPEC’s plan for the US shale oil phenomena, that by manipulating the price of oil it gave the tight oil industry just enough rope to exhaust its drillable locations and get deeper in debt. They are a patient lot, OPEC; their plan was to let America drain itself…first.

        That plan is working precisely as they calculated. Mr. Sheffield admits that. America is no longer the swing producer, it can no longer disrupt the world oil order as it has in the past and once again, we are, and will be at the mercy of OPEC. Our shale basins have essentially been ruined by over-drilling and ensuing pressure depletion, there is not much left that isn’t going to be gassy, and watery and even less economic to drill.

        Something as vitally important as oil and natural gas should have never have been left in the hands of private enterprise. Private enterprise is going to always do what’s in its best interests and not the best interest of the long term energy security of our nation. Now its probably too late.

        Shale is on the precipice….

  38. hillcountry says:

    I read Keith Weiner’s analysis and wonder how it relates to Gail’s take on things. Here is a snip from a post in June 2021.

    What is the Cause of the Energy Crisis in the UK?
    Now let’s look at the dire situation in the UK, with skyrocketing prices for energy that will soon impact food and other markets. If Friedman were correct, we could just point to growth in the quantity of pounds—M0 has grown about 8% in the last year. Then perhaps we would mutter “Cantillon Effect” or “leads and lags”, and chalk this up to inflation.

    However, this doesn’t tell the full story. The way “daddy, there are people inside the TV” does not tell the full story of how Ted Lasso plays on your flatscreen. There is something else going on.

    The UK, like all the other de-industrializing countries, has enacted a bevy of anti-energy policies. One of them prohibits fracking to produce natural gas. Another policy has forced power plants and industry to switch from oil and coal, to natural gas. In other words, they decided that all natural gas used in the country shall be imported, and that a greater fraction of total energy consumption will be concentrated in natural gas.

    This would not necessarily cause the price of energy to rise (though natural gas may be more expensive than oil or coal). However, it does make energy-intensive industries more vulnerable. In a free market, business managers seek to reduce risk by diversifying their supply chains. Feel-good diktats, like those in the UK, push all supply chains to depend increasingly (or solely) on one single point of failure. This forces managers to act against their better judgment, to concentrate their risks, and to hope that a disruptive event does not come along.

    Lockdowns and Just-in-Time Supply Chains
    Unfortunately, global lockdown came along. Lockdown first shut down global shipping and logistics. Ships and containers were stranded in all the wrong places. Now that economies are reopening, a lot of demand that was held back has been released. However, manufacturing and distribution has long been in a trend to move towards just-in-time (the driver of this is monetary: the falling interest rate). Nobody has the capacity to produce and distribute all at once the goods that would have been purchased in a year. Much less after lockdown destroyed capacity at the margin. Unlockdown causes a kind of whiplash.

    • Yes, that is indeed a good post, especially from June of this year.

      The UK folks have indeed been incredibly stupid in their regulation of energy. If they wanted natural gas, they surely needed to have abundant storage for it and long term contracts for buying the natural gas. They seem to allow neither.

      Another strange thing that the UK and other European countries did was provide incentives for citizens to buy vehicles that operate using diesel, rather than gasoline. Of course, diesel does provide more miles per gallon. But diesel is what trucks and big commercial vehicles require. This means that the UK and others have to depend disproportionately on imported diesel. If there is not enough diesel to import, the country is in tough shape.

      So the UK managed to maximized dependence on imported natural gas and diesel.

      The UK is of course at the end of the Russia pipeline for natural gas. If there isn’t enough, it has a problem.

      • Xabier says:

        And, of course, the UK persists in antagonising Russia as if it were still a global power of significance.

        After the Iraq and Afghan catastrophes – great military incompetence and poorly-equipped troops – no one could evr believe that.

        Is there something in the water which dissolves brain-power here?

        There is some light, though: maybe power cuts will sink the proposed bio-metric control net and vaxx ‘passports’ ? I would enjoy that.

      • Minority of One says:

        I don’t think the UK has ever got piped gas from Russia. It has hardly ever got any gas from Russia.

        Import volume of liquefied natural gas to the United Kingdom (UK) in 2020, by country of origin

        Number three supplier of LNG to the UK last year was Russia. My guess is the UK has no long-term supply contracts with Russia. If and when Russia decides to export LNG on the spot market, we will have to bid for it.

        This Statista website looks like a mine of useful info
        Energy imports in the UK – statistics & facts

        This article has a graph showing how much gas storage various countries in Europe have, and for the UK it is not far off zero.

        Where does the UK get its gas and is it facing a shortage this winter?

        This article is from 3 weeks ago, but it shows just how detached from reality the UK politicians are

        Gas price rise: ‘UK not seeing risks to supplies right now’

        ‘ A spike in wholesale gas prices will not result in goods shortages or price hikes for customers in the UK, a climate change minister has said.

        COP26 president Alok Sharma said: “We do not see risks of supplies right now and prices are being protected.”

        … Mr Sharma told the BBC’s Andrew Marr Show that people should not be concerned about the risks of gas supply. ‘

        Does this sound like someone who has a handle on the situation?

    • Minority of One says:

      “The UK, like all the other de-industrializing countries, has enacted a bevy of anti-energy policies. One of them prohibits fracking to produce natural gas. ”

      Fracking in the UK was and is a pipedream. The UK is smaller than the largest shale fields in the USA, so UK shale fields are tiny. And in the UK there are a few more regulations fracking companies need to deal with. Fracking here always was and always will be a case of ‘fools are easily parted with their money’.

      “Another policy has forced power plants and industry to switch from oil and coal, to natural gas. In other words, they decided that all natural gas used in the country shall be imported, and that a greater fraction of total energy consumption will be concentrated in natural gas.”

      As I mentioned before, the ‘dash to gas’ in the UK (gas for power plants) was implemented by Thatcher in the 1980s. It seemed like a good idea at the time because the UK was a net gas exporter, and I dare say many believed this would last for many decades (it lasted for two max).

      ” In other words, they decided that all natural gas used in the country shall be imported,”

      Nonsense. We were a net exporter until 2005.
      Of course, we needed a big policy change prior to 2005, which has never happened.
      All that has happened since then is that all governments (politicians) have been too lazy, stupid, ignorant, too easily mislead to change the policy. They were/are probably advised ‘all was ok’ by economists who live in a fantasy world, and believed whatever they said. Our politicians are still telling the UK public nothing to worry about. The particular group of clowns we have at the moment though, they seem to be something special (UK and Scotland).

  39. great stuff:

    Quote from above:

    >>>>>New Hampshire state Rep. Ken Weyler (R) is facing bipartisan criticism after he shared wild conspiracy theories about the coronavirus involving Satan, the pope and 5G as well as tentacled creatures lurking in the COVID-19 vaccine.

    The lengthy document that the 79-year-old chair of the House finance committee sent to his colleagues claims the vaccine is part of a plot “to gain 100% control over the minds of all of humanity.” <<<>>>>“We must understand that this criminal network is highly spiritual in nature, and all who are at the top are involved in dark ancient spiritual practices,” the report claims. “To put it bluntly, they are satanists, also called luciferians.”

    The document also claims that both the Moderna and Johnson & Johnson vaccines were examined under a microscope, which revealed a tentacled creature in each vial that “moves around, lifts itself up, and even seems to be self aware.” <<<<<<


    This man isn't a solo lunatic, he has been elected to represent (however many) other lunatics. He is part of American government, and, as far as I know, has never commented on OFW.

    Yet he pours out the same garbage, 'That the vaccine is part of a plot to gain 100% control of all of humanity'' .

    When I point out the sheer nonsense of it, the above is held up as 'truth'.

    When dementia finally catches up with me, it will be a welcome relief.

    • Z says:

      Thankfully we won’t have to listen to your nonsense drivel anymore at that point.

      • my nonsense?

        please elaborate

        unless of course you believe it to be true

        • Tim Groves says:

          It’s not a question of believing or disbelieving. It’s a question of being open to the possibility that reports are factual or not. For you, obviously, it’s not. Your mind is closed to possibilities that don’t support your own prejudices. You’ve prejudged this issue without having studied the evidence. You have not looked through a microscope at a vial or two of Moderna’s Fluid to confirm or deny the findings for yourself. The only way you will be forced to accede that the reports are true is when a little head chews its way through your tummy and a little alien emerges and makes a dash for the nearest air conditioning duct.

          Oh, look, we have visual confirmation of something floating in the Pfizer goo.

          • Mike Roberts says:

            So, is your mind open to the possibility that Rep. Ken Weyler speaks the truth? Remember that he thinks the vaccine is part of a plot “to gain 100% control over the minds of all of humanity.”

          • when i am fed ‘facts’, by the same people who have fed me ‘facts’ about a string of other rubbish over the past few years, i think i can safely dismiss the latest ‘facts’ without the need for comprehensive investigation.

            prejudgement has nothing to do with it. I never prejudge anything that is based in reality.

            there are no crawly critters inside vaccination fluid, seeking to take over my body.

            iron filings are not linking my whereabouts to 5g masts

            students of Dr Mengele are not about to kidnap my g grandkids and use them for medical experiments.

            there is no elite seeking to decimate world population for profit (we’re doing that ourselves)

            i see JFK has now been added to the OFW conspiratorial list.

            what/who next? Don’t you ever read back over this stuff and just laugh?

            and I can’t wait for the 2022 list.

            Human plagues break out because we crowd ourselves together and intrude too deeply into animal territory.The 1921 outbreak killed millions, without all this conspiratorial nonsense.
            Because the means to infect ourselves via social media did not exist. People either lived or died, and went on into their future.

            I suggest that the closed mind(s) are against that simple reality.

            we messed up our world through collective greed and stupidity, there has been no ‘plot’ involved. Covid appears to have been instrumental in shutting us down.

            Whether that is ‘fact’ or not, we will not know for maybe 20 years. (such things are only viewed in hindsight).

            whether people accept that or not is a matter of complete indifference. It will manifest itself, or it won’t. Something has to shut us down. It is going to be unpleasant.
            I don’t want to around to see it. I fear for those I care for, obviously. But billions are in the same situation as me.

            • Xabier says:

              You are so feeble-minded and out-of-touch, Norman, that it would be unkind as well as futile to dispute with you.

              But I think we all here appreciate that the mass-injection of children, for no good clinical reason, with novel and experimental, certainly dangerous, ‘vaccines’ is what is going on globally – and that IS Dr Mengele territory without a shadow of a doubt.

              Francis Hoar, a barrister, is nobly fighting this in the UK; and the government is using every conceivable legal trick to beat him.

              A disgrace, and very sinister. Just like the push to inject pregnant women.

              Why the children? Why?

              No1 target from Day 1, I suspect.

            • somewhere else on this thread xabier, you complain about being ridiculed by someone who disagrees with you

              if he’s banned you, then i can only think that he got heartily sick of your incessant rantings and repetitions of whatever is today’s fantasy, and endless insistence that ‘truth’ is your exclusive property.

              and of course that anyone who doesn’t adhere strictly to that truth is somehow mentally defective.

              something like the jesusfreak who keeps accosting people in the street.

            • Xabier says:

              Then I have one prayer in your regard Norman: that you WILL live to see it.

              Keep up the exercises, old boy.

            • Discussions would be uninteresting if everyone believed exactly the same thing.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Kings need jesters… to keep them amused…. we’ve got 3 very fine jesters on OFW….

              And the best thing is no matter how we treat them …. they don’t quit.

              I suspect they enjoy their role…. similar to the water boy except that nobody takes the piss of the water boy because everyone needs water

      • Fast Eddy says:

        I wonder if mike norm and dunc understand the level of revulsion they elicit when they post their rubbish on OFW….

    • Peak Oi Pete says:

      Yes Norm, there are some very strange theories out there, and the less intelligent just gobble them up as if they are the true gospel.
      Meanwhile the real problem (net energy depletion) just keeps getting worse.
      And stay away from those magnets 🙂

    • drb says:

      It is well known that graphene oxide has no tentacles. It is rather a large, planar molecule with ragged edges. the guy is a tinfoil hat person.

    • Minority of One says:

      “as well as tentacled creatures lurking in the COVID-19 vaccine”

      Someone posted this video a few days ago, maybe you did not see it?

      Dr. Carrie Madej: First U.S. Lab Examines “Vaccine” Vials, HORRIFIC Findings Revealed

      Tentacled creatures. See: 4m 36s

    • Physics seems to say that the wealth flows to the top, in times of stress, just as steam rises to the top. The poor get “frozen out.”

      We have a K shaped recovery.

  40. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Lead Times for U.S. Factories Lengthen to Record on Supply Crunch…

    “The Institute for Supply Management’s latest survey of purchasing managers showed the average lead time for production materials in September increased to 92 days, the highest in data back to 1987.”

  41. Harry McGibbs says:

    “The next financial crisis is fast approaching.

    “Central banks need to prepare because global stock markets and real estate are overvalued, while leverage is near record levels for households, corporations, banks and governments… Today’s risk-asset valuations are utterly detached from reality.”

  42. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Central banks differ on dispelling nightmare of stagflation.

    “Central banks almost everywhere face the same bad dream: a mix of slowing growth and inflationary supply shocks that together threaten stagflation. So far, they are confronting the problem in different ways.”

  43. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Fantasia downgraded to default status by rating companies as Chinese property sector crisis worsens.

    “Missed debt payment by Fantasia this week adds to China property sector concerns spawned by Evergrande’s liquidity crisis. S&P, Fitch and Moody’s all cut Fantasia to default or near default status.”

  44. Fast Eddy says:

    “Do you have the right to sleep in a tent 10 metres away from me if I’m vaccinated and you’re not? That’s where life gets a lot more interesting.”

    Actually the vaxxed are the dangerous ones…

    • Xabier says:

      There is no reasoning, no science in any of this, now.

      Like the 1930’s in Germany:

      ‘Is the air clean with a non-Aryan in the same room?’

      • Artleads says:

        “Nausea” was a term used by existentialists in the 60’s. Not sure what it meant, but this is the behavior I would associate it with. A sense of the meaningless and sickness of the human project. In such a situation, a movement or religion based on UNEXCITING acceptance of “live and let live” standards might be the best that we can do. (We tend to rate excitement over reason?)

  45. Fast Eddy says:

    That Vermont story has captured the attention of a CovIDIOT….

    CovIDIOT: Mmm hmm If that’s the case why is the US fully open now?

    UK and much of Europe too…. Why?

    FE: you won’t like the answer… it’s because now that they have vaxxed people… they need them to get infected… because when you introduce the virus into the vaxxed people — it causes the virus to mutate and strengthen to overcome the vaccine

    (followed by the usual Montagnier and Bossche warnings)

    All gone quiet on the CovIDIOT front…. I can smell burning gears….

  46. Lidia17 says:

    And, metro.. all the swanky COP people don’t have to follow the Covid passport regulations..

    • Xabier says:

      The new international Exempt Class!

      Ever more evident that it is just about controlling US…….

    • COP26 is a climate change conference, with people coming from the far corners of the earth. It lasts a long time: October 31 to November 12. A person would think that these folks would have the good sense to have the conference over Zoom. If any group is going to spread germs around, it would be people coming to this conference.

      Not needing the passport pretty much shows that the passport really doesn’t work.

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