Could we be hitting natural gas limits already?

Many countries have assumed that natural gas imports will be available for balancing electricity produced by intermittent wind and solar, whenever they are needed. The high natural gas import prices recently being encountered in Europe, and especially in the UK, appear to be an indication of an underlying problem. Could the world already be hitting natural gas limits?

One reason few people expect a problem with natural gas is because of the immense quantities reported as proven reserves. For all countries combined, these reserves at December 31, 2020 were equal to 48.8 times world natural gas production in 2020. Thus, in theory, the world could continue to produce natural gas at the current rate for almost 50 years, without even trying to find more natural gas resources.

Ratios of natural gas reserves to production vary greatly by country, giving a hint that the indications may be unreliable. High reserves make an exporting country appear to be dependable for many years in the future, whether or not this is true.

Figure 1. Ratio of natural gas reserves at December 31, 2020, to natural gas production for the year 2020, based on trade data of BP’s 2021 Statistical Review of World Energy. Russia+ is the Commonwealth of Independent States. It includes Russia and the countries to the south of Russia that were included in the former Soviet Union.

As I see the issue, these reserves are unlikely to be produced unless world oil prices rise to a level close to double what they are today and stay at such a high level for several years. I say this because the health of the oil and gas industries are closely intertwined. Of the two, oil has historically been the major profit-maker, enabling adequate funds for reinvestment. Prices have been too low for oil producers for about eight years now, cutting back on investment in new fields and export capability. This low-price issue is what seems to be leading to limits to the natural gas supply, as well as a limit to the oil supply.

Figure 2. Inflation adjusted oil prices based on EIA monthly average Brent oil prices, adjusted by the CPI Urban. The chart shows price data through October 2020. The Brent oil price at September 24, 2021 is about $74 per barrel, which is still very low relative to what oil companies require to make adequate reinvestment.

In this post, I will try to explain some of the issues involved. In some ways, a dire situation already seems to be developing.

[1] Taking a superficial world view, natural gas seems to be doing fairly well. It is only when a person starts analyzing some of the pieces that problems start to become clear.

Figure 3. World oil, coal and natural gas supply based on data of BP’s 2021 Statistical Review of World Energy.

Figure 3 shows that natural gas supply has been rising, year after year. There was a brief dip in 2009, at the time of the Great Recession, and a slightly larger dip in 2020, related to COVID-19 restrictions. Overall, production has been growing at a steady rate. Compared to oil and coal, the recent growth pattern of natural gas has been more stable.

The quantity of exports of natural gas tends to be much more variable. Figure 4 compares inter-regional trade for coal and natural gas. Here, I have ignored local trade and only considered trade among fairly large blocks of countries, such as North America, Europe and Russia combined with its close affiliates.

Figure 4. Total inter-regional trade among fairly large groupings of countries (such as Europe and North America) based on trade data provided by BP’s 2021 Statistical Review of World Energy.

If a person looks closely at the growth of natural gas imports in Figure 4, it becomes clear that growth in natural gas is a feast or famine proposition, given to upward spurts, dips and flat periods. It is my understanding that in the early years, natural gas was typically traded under long-term contracts, on a “take or pay” basis. The price was often tied to the oil price. This generous pricing structure allowed natural gas exports to grow rapidly in the 2000 to 2008 period. The Great Recession cut back the need for natural gas imports and also led to downward pressure on the pricing of exports.

After the Great Recession, natural gas import prices tended to fall below oil prices (Figure 5) except in Japan, where stability of supply is very important. Another change was that an increasing share of exported natural gas was sold in the “spot” market. These prices fluctuate depending on changes in supply and demand, making them much more variable.

Figure 5. Comparison of annual average natural gas prices with corresponding Brent oil price, based on information from BP’s 2021 Statistical Review of World Energy. Natural gas prices per million Btus converted to barrel of oil equivalent prices by multiplying by 6.0.

Looking back at Figure 4, natural gas exports were close to flat between 2011 and 2016. Such flat exports, together with falling export prices in the 2013 to 2016 period (Figure 5), would have been a nightmare for oil and gas companies doing long-range planning for oil exports. Exports spurted upward in the 2016 to 2019 period, and then fell back in 2020 (Figure 4). All of the volatility in the growth rate of required new production, combined with uncertainty of the pricing of exports, reduced interest in planning for projects that would increase natural gas export capability.

[2] In 2021, quite a number of countries seem to be ramping up natural gas imports at the same time. This is likely one issue leading to the spiking spot prices in Europe for natural gas.

Now that the economy is recovering from the effects of COVID-19, Europe is trying to ramp up its natural gas imports, probably to a level above the import level in 2019. Figure shows that both China and Other Asia Pacific are also likely to be ramping up their imports, providing a great deal of competition for imports.

Figure 6. Areas with net natural gas imports, based on trade data of BP’s 2021 Statistical Review of World Energy. Other Asia Pacific excludes Japan, China and Australia.

It is no surprise that China’s natural gas imports are rising rapidly. With China’s rapid economic growth, it needs energy resources of whatever kinds it can obtain. Natural gas is cleaner-burning than coal. The CO2 emitted when burning natural gas is lower, as well. (These climate benefits may be partially or fully offset by methane lost in shipping natural gas as liquefied natural gas (LNG), however.)

In Figure 6, the sudden appearance and rapid rise of Other Asia Pacific imports can be explained by the fact that this figure shows the net indications for a combination of natural gas importers (including South Korea, India, and Taiwan) and exporters (including Malaysia and Indonesia). In recent years, natural gas import growth has greatly exceeded export growth. It would not be surprising if this rapid rise continues, since this part of the world is one that has been increasing its manufacturing in recent years.

If anyone had stepped back to analyze the situation in 2019, it would have been clear that, in the near future, natural gas exports would need to be rising extremely rapidly to meet the needs of all of the importers simultaneously. The dip in Europe’s natural gas imports due to COVID-19 restrictions in 2020 temporarily hid the problem. Now that Europe is trying to get back to normal, there doesn’t seem to be enough to go around.

[3] Apart from the United States, it is hard to find a part of the world where natural gas exports are rapidly rising.

Figure 7. Natural gas exports by area, based on trade data of BP’s 2021 Statistical Review of World Energy. Russia+ is the Commonwealth of Independent States. It includes Russia and the countries to the south of Russia that were included in the former Soviet Union.

Russia+ is by far the world’s largest exporter of natural gas. Even with Russia+’s immense exports, its total exports (about 10 exajoules a year, based on Figure 7) still fall short of Europe’s natural gas import needs (at least 12 exajoules a year, based on Figure 6). The dip in Russia+’s natural gas exports in 2020 no doubt reflects the fact that Europe’s imports fell in 2020 (Figure 6). Since these exports were mostly pipeline exports, there was no way that Russia+ could sell the unwanted natural gas elsewhere, lowering its total exports.

At this point, there seems to be little expectation for a major rise in natural gas exports from Russia+ because of a lack of capital to spend on such projects. Russia built the new Nord Stream 2 pipeline, but it doesn’t seem to have a huge amount of new natural gas exports to put into the pipeline. As much as anything, the Nord Stream 2 pipeline seems to be a way of bypassing Ukraine with its exports.

Figure 7 shows that the Middle East’s natural gas exports rose in the period 2000 to 2011, but they have since leveled off. A major use for Middle Eastern natural gas is to produce electricity to support the local economies. Before the Middle East ramped up its natural gas production, much of the electricity was obtained by burning oil. The sales price the Middle East can get for selling its natural gas is far below the price it can get for selling oil, especially when the high cost of shipping the natural gas is considered. Thus, it makes sense for Middle Eastern countries to use the natural gas themselves, saving the oil, since the sale of oil produces more export revenue.

Africa’s natural gas exports have fallen, in part because of depletion of the early natural gas fields in Algeria. In theory, Africa’s natural gas exports could rise to a substantial level, but it is doubtful this will happen quickly because of the large amount of capital required to build LNG export facilities. Furthermore, Africa is badly in need of fuel for itself. Local authorities may decide that if natural gas is available, it should be used for the benefit of the people in the area.

Australia’s natural gas exports have risen mostly as a result of the Gorgon LNG Project off the northwest coast of Australia. This project was expected to be high cost at $37 billion when it was approved in 2009. The actual cost soared to $54 billion, according to a 2017 cost estimate. The high (and uncertain) cost of large LNG projects makes investors cautious regarding new investments in LNG exports. S&P Global by Platts reported in June, 2021, “Australia’s own exports are expected to be relatively stable in the coming years.” This statement was made after saying that a project in Mozambique, Africa, is being cancelled because of stability issues.

The country with the largest increase in natural gas exports in recent years is the United States. The US is not shown separately in Figure 7, but it represents the largest portion of natural gas exported from North America. Prior to 2017, North America was a net importer of natural gas, including LNG from Trinidad and Tobago, Egypt, Algeria and elsewhere.

[4] The United States has a strange reason for wanting to export large quantities of natural gas overseas: Its natural gas prices have been too low for producers for a long time. Natural gas producers hope the exports will raise natural gas prices within the US.

Natural gas prices vary widely around the world because the fuel is expensive to ship and difficult to store. Figure 5 (above) shows that, at least since 2009, US natural gas prices have been unusually low.

The main reason why the price of natural gas dropped around 2009 seems to have been a ramp up in US shale oil production that started about this time. While the main objective of most of the shale drilling was oil, natural gas was a byproduct that came along. Oil producers were willing to almost give the natural gas away, if they could make money on the oil. However, they also had trouble making money on the oil extraction. That seems to be the reason why oil extraction from shale is now being reduced.

Figure 8 shows a chart prepared by the US Energy Administration showing US dry natural gas production, by type: non-shale, Appalachia shale and other shale.

Figure 8. Figure by EIA showing US natural gas production in three categories.

Based on Figure 8, the timing of the ramp up of natural gas from shale seems to correspond with the timing in the drop in natural gas prices. By 2008 (the first year shown on this chart), gas from shale formations had risen to well over 10% of US natural gas production. At this level, it would be expected to have an impact on prices. Adding natural gas to an already well-supplied market would be likely to reduce US natural gas prices because, with natural gas, the situation isn’t “build it, and demand will come.”

People don’t raise the temperature to which they heat their homes, at least not very much, simply because the natural gas price is lower. The use of natural gas as a transport fuel has not caught on because of all of the infrastructure that would be required to enable the transition. The one substitution that has tended to take place is the use of natural gas to replace coal, particularly in electricity generation. This likely means that a major shift back to coal use cannot really be done, although a smaller shift can be done, and, in fact, seems to already be taking place, based on EIA data.

[5] The reason that limits are a concern for natural gas is because the economy is very much more interconnected, and much more dependent on energy, than most people assume.

I think of the economy as being interconnected in much the same way as the many systems within a human being are interconnected. For example, humans have a circulatory system, or perhaps several such circulatory systems, for different fluids; economies have highway systems and road systems, as well as pipeline systems.

Humans require food at regular intervals. They have a digestive system to help them digest this food. The food has to be of the right kinds, not all sweets, for example. The economy needs energy of the right kinds, as well. It has many kinds of devices that use this energy. Intermittent electricity from wind or solar, by itself, doesn’t really work.

Human beings have kinds of alarms that go off to tell if there is something wrong. They feel hungry if they haven’t eaten in a while. They feel thirsty if they need water to drink. They may feel overheated if an infection gives them a fever. An economy has alarms that go off, as well. Prices rise too high for consumers. Or, companies go bankrupt from low market prices for their products. Or, widespread defaults on loans become a problem.

The symptoms we are seeing now with the UK economy relate to a natural gas import system that is showing signs of distress. It is pleasant to think that the central bankers or public officials can fix all problems, but they really cannot, just as we cannot fix all problems with our health.

[6] Inexpensive energy plays an essential role in the economy.

We all know that inexpensive food is far preferable to expensive food in powering our own personal economies. For example, if we need to spend 14 hours producing enough food to live on (either directly by farming, or indirectly by earning wages to buy the food), it is clear that we will not be able to afford much of anything other than food. On the other hand, if we can produce food to live on in 30 minutes a day (directly or indirectly), then we can spend the rest of the day earning money to buy other goods and services. We likely can afford many kinds of goods and services. Thus, a low price for food makes a big difference.

It is the same way with the overall economy. If energy costs are low, the cost of producing food is likely low because the cost of using tractors, fertilizers, weed killers and irrigation is low. From the point of view of any manufacturer using electricity, low price is important in being able to produce goods that are competitive in the global marketplace. From the point of view of a homeowner, a low electricity price is important in order to have enough funds left over after paying the electricity bill to be able to afford other goods and services.

Economists seem to believe that high energy prices can be acceptable, especially if the price of fossil fuels rises because of depletion. This is not true, without adversely affecting how the economy functions. We can understand this problem at our household level; if food prices suddenly rise, the rest of our budget must shrink back.

[7] If energy prices spike, these high prices tend to push the economy into recession.

A key issue with fossil fuels is depletion. The resources that are the least expensive to access and remove tend to be extracted first. In theory, there is a great deal more fossil fuel available, if the price rises high enough. The problem is that there is a balancing act between what the producer needs and what the consumer can afford. If energy prices rise very high, consumers are forced to cut back on their spending, pushing the economy into recession.

High oil prices were a major factor pushing the United States and other major users of oil into the Great Recession of 2007-2009. See my article in Energy, Oil Supply Limits and the Continuing Financial Crisis. In part, high oil prices made debt harder to repay, especially for low income workers with long commutes. It also made countries that used a significant share of oil in their energy mix less competitive in the world market.

The situation being encountered by some natural gas importers is indeed similar. Paying a very high price for imported natural gas is not a very acceptable situation. But not having electricity available or not being able to heat our homes is not very acceptable either.

[8] Conclusion. It is easy to be lulled into complacency by the huge natural gas reserves that seem to be available.

Unfortunately, it is necessary to build all of the infrastructure that is required to extract natural gas resources and deliver them to customers at a price that the customers can truly afford. At the same time, the price needs to be acceptable to the organization building the infrastructure.

Of course, more debt or money created out of thin air doesn’t solve the problem. Resources of many kinds need to be available to build the required infrastructure. At the same time, wages of workers need to be high enough that they can purchase the physical goods they require, including food, clothing, housing and basic transportation.

At this point, the problem with high prices is most noticeable in Europe, with its dependence on natural gas imports. Europe may just be the “canary in the coal mine.” The problem has the potential to spread to other natural gas prices and to other fossil fuel prices, pushing the world economy toward recession.

At a minimum, people planning the use of intermittent electricity from wind or solar should not assume that reasonably priced natural gas will always be available for balancing. One likely area for shortfall will be winter, as well as storing up reserves for winter (the problem affecting Europe now), since winter is when heating needs are the highest and solar resources are the lowest.

About Gail Tverberg

My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
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4,770 Responses to Could we be hitting natural gas limits already?

  1. jodytishmack says:

    Average coal prices have now climbed to $218 USD per ton. The previous record high was $195.20 in July 2008. Prices for thermal coal a year ago September were $46.18 USD per ton and have been rising steadily as demand for electricity increased as the economy opened up. Several articles tell an interesting story of coal in China but none of them indicate a shortage of reserves. Interestingly, when coal prices go this high there is usually a rally of solar and wind installation but this remains to be seen with other supply chain issues.
    https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/coal
    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/19/coal-prices-the-worlds-least-liked-commodity-sees-remarkable-rally.html
    https://asiatimes.com/2021/09/china-plunges-into-self-inflicted-darkness/
    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/19/coal-prices-the-worlds-least-liked-commodity-sees-remarkable-rally.html

  2. Lastcall says:

    So in an energy constrained world, when do they limit internet access?
    Carbon allowances, megabyte limits, crypto crasho, food rations…
    What does it take to keep this giant alive? How are the supply lines going?

    • I don’t think the limits will necessarily work the way we expect. These are a few ideas:

      I expect that newly manufactured devices, including batteries, will become very rare, because of reduced international trade and because of semiconductor chip problems.

      I expect that functioning electricity transmission lines will become rare quite quickly, as well. Storm damage won’t get repaired. In fact, damage of any kind won’t get repaired.

      I expect that poor people will trade their phones and other devices for food, if they have operating devices and others don’t. Thus, they will no longer have internet access.

      Grocery stores won’t have nearly as much food in them. There may be lines, if they have popular items. Rationing will come by willingness (and time available) to wait in lines.

      It may be that food can only be purchased by those who work. It can be shared with non-working relatives or friends. But retirees and others who don’t work will be left out, unless they have relatives/friends who will share a little with them.

      • Rodster says:

        Empty store shelves are no joke. While shopping today I noticed Publix Supermarket was almost out of Gatorade. I’ve read their is a short supply of that around the country. We can expect shortages of most staple foods. It’s best to stock up now while it’s still available or before price go higher due to shortages and too much money chasing too few products.

      • Trixie says:

        Your scenario is catastrophic for women who depend upon batteries. I suppose I should start hoarding now. Since I am a useless eater and of a certain age this may save me from the potato field. I can build up a big supply, perhaps make myself into a warlord.

        • Seideman says:

          I will take you under my warlord wing, can you sew, spin or weave?

          • Trixie says:

            0h yes indeed Sir, I can spin. I have a broad foot from turning the wheel, a large lip from moistening the thread and a broad thumb from twisting the thread. I once spun three rooms filled with the most beautiful flax in three days. The queen was most pleased.

          • Dana says:

            Seideman – I can knit, sew and garden. I also have hard earned horsekeeping skills. Can I get in on your tribe? Thanks, Dana.

            • careful

              droit de seigneur is very much the thing in that tribe

            • Seideman says:

              Dana if you can Ride a horse as well as you can sew then you will work alongside trixie. Women who knows real earth skills are always welcome! And Norman, this tribe practices strict chastity. You might think that warlord power will make one subject to take advantage over them ladies for meeting primal needs. Well you are wrong Sir! I will not even glance at those buttocks made firm and plump from plenty of roast pork and earthy manual labour.

        • Bei Dawei says:

          Doomster ladies will have to start using the diesel-powered lesbian-style versions, with a kick-start like a lawnmower.

          • Trixie says:

            Yes…it’s not about energy – it’s about power. It’s not how much work a piece of equipment can do in an unspecified amount of time, but the amount of work that can be done in the shortest possible time that matters.

          • Trixie says:

            I dare say darling I was talking about my battery powered coffee grinder.

        • Kowalainen says:

          Just move to Scandinavia. We got a long, shall we say tradition, of women warriors. Viking age bandit feminism.

          Let the British women do the weaving, we’ll just oar ourselves over there, loot, rape and pillage. No batteries included. Just like in the good olden days. Yay!

          On second thought, Rumor has it Anglo Saxon men is a bit soft these days. Yeah, hoard batteries if the CEP causes a shortage of men over here. I’m worrying… Busy days ahead… That is if the CEP vaxx disables the male xyz.

          How’s your broad sword mad skills btw? Don’t worry too much, on the job training will sort that out in a hurry.

          ‘Oorah ‘Navia!

          • My husband and I noticed a lot of statues that included women, or a woman and child, in them when we visited Norway a few years ago. I don’t think that there were many male soldiers to commemorate.

            In a cold country, where it is hard to succeed with the setbacks the weather provides, perhaps every person is valued more.

  3. Fast Eddy says:

    Further on governments hiding the truth … not only hiding .. but planting seeds that guarantee all but the Greatest Genius In The History of the World… will not realize what the Plan is…

    They give us :

    https://time.com/collection/great-reset/
    – Plandemic
    – total control using vaccines
    – Fauci Gates etc… as sinister plotters who even funded covid
    – Gates buying up farmland (the mega prepper)
    – movies and teevee shows depicting collapse as an adventure

    The list goes on … the PR Team feeds these theories to the masses… creates them… all for the purpose of keeping the scent…

    Of course the scent they absolutely do NOT want them to pick up … is the stench of the CEP…

    Most cannot handle the truth so do not want the truth … combine that with these scent trails leading to nowhere… and their secret is safe….. Most people who read the CEP… will think it the ranting of a madman…

    But a few… will recognize.. the true Genius… of being able to connect seemingly unrelated dots… and distil them into the most significant theory — in The History of the World… bigger than anything from any philosopher… mathematician… physicist… scientist… ever.

    The dinosaur who predicted the end of the dinosaurs…and explained in detail… how and why…

    All Hail the King of Kings… Feel the Power… FEEL THE POWER!!!!

    What’s that…. cut the lawn??? Can’t it wait till the weekend? …. Fast Eddy must get a crown and some other accoutrements (the sweatshirt and pants are not conveying much in the way of gravitas)… He is feeling a little… disrespected.

    • Lidia17 says:

      FE, I’ve decided to quit cleaning the toilet, and it’s all because of you. Thank you for releasing me from my shackles! Praise be to FE!

    • NomadicBeer says:

      FE,
      do you have doubts about CEP?

      Up to now the death rate from the vax is ~1/1000.
      Yes that is huge for a treatment but it’s nothing compared to what’s required for any decent collapse.

      Can you accept the possibility that this is about control to the nth degree?
      The true believers will be cannonfodder later but first they will get rid of the freethinkers. NY, Australia and maybe others are building the concentration camps.
      After the undesirables will be jobless and homeless, the normals will beg the govt to get rid of them – especially during a deep economic crisis.

      Emotionally, I would prefer your hypothesis since the people in charge have hearts and are trying to avoid suffering. But is that how the real world works? It’s weird that grown up people can believe in the goodness of the oligarchs. At least you have that in common with the cultists…

      Anyway, I would have expected your opinions to evolve with new facts – I forgot for a second that we are online where everybody has to be absolutely certain all the time.

      • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

        yes, Q4 2021 has arrived, and there is scant evidence for any mass dieoff.

        though it is surely a possibility that the death rate will increase as delayed effects of the toxic vaccines kick in, but even a few % of the vaxed kicking the bucket every year is a long way from a mass dieoff.

        so all in all, it continues to be the long slow dull slog of creeping poverty slowly overtaking the periphery and edging into the core, and average lifespans creeping downward.

        which was and continues to be quite predictable.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Note that as infections and deaths in Israel climbed… the Booster was rolled out….

          The original shots as Bossche states impede the virus … but it eventually strengthens and tosses the vaccines aside like Hulk Hogan would a small child…

          The Boosters will put up a good fight with the Hulkster… but will only serve to enrage him … and he’ll boost himself with more steroids and HGH… and he’ll body slam each and every booster…

          Eventually Hogan will grow to 50metres tall… with the strength to topple a large building with a single blow…. at that point – as GVB says… boosters will have zero impact on the Hulk…

          That’s when we can expect the serious dying to begin… the Nightmare Scenario.

          We are no doubt already past the point of no return .. with or without boosters… billions have been injected and are being allowed to cavort in restaurants, clubs etc… sharing the virus and inviting the production of mutants… the boosters are overkill….

          https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3b/73/72/3b7372aa3ca6c3f751832d98d7644267.jpg

          • Student says:

            I have the same impression.
            I’m not 100% sure about that because nobody can be sure of the future, but I think it is much probable that it is going to be like that.
            Actually, if almost every virologist agree that vaccines increase the virus powerful mutations and that current vaccines are leaking, how can one think that mixing vaccinated people and unvaccinated with negative test (in other words green pass or covid pass) can create something different from this scenario?

          • Kowalainen says:

            I took a taxi to the airport a day ago getting ready to burn some kerosene for no apparent real reason in this time and age. Anyway.

            The driver was a quite likable fella. We chatted along about this and that, outs and ins. Then he mentioned he was vaxxed. And I thought. Fsck kiddo, what have you done. I didn’t say anything though.

            😖

            I guess we are free to choose and then deal with the consequences. Ultimate consequences.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        In case you have not noticed … most people are happy to be injected with a dangerous substance that is not tested and that even if it did what they say it does … is of no value to them. Almost all healthy people experience covid as a mild flu or common cold.

        Most people believe the 911 lie… most people believe we have been to the moon… most people continue to vote even though politicians are nothing more than stooges…

        That looks like total control to me… and for the few who dare to push back on the covid lie… the police bring them into line with minimal effort.

        There are 8B sheep on the planet… they do what they are told… the sheep dogs deal with the few that refuse….

        I rule out the control theory entirely.

        We are running out of affordable oil.. and gas… and coal…. that is the fundamental problem… how would exerting additional control over 8B fix that?

        I have mentioned for many years now my intention to ram a vehicle at high speed into a rock cut when the End Game arrives…. because the End Game is not something anyone can survive… and trying to survive will only result in having to endure great suffering … p

        Preppers will be murdered… their families raped/eaten… the short period between collapse and the spent fuel ponds will be nothing short of horrific. What’s the point sticking around for that? Even if you end up the king of the castle you will die from radiation poisoning… not exactly a pleasant way to go so I hear….

        It would appear that the Elders have decided to load us all into the back seat and ram us into the rock cut….

        Am I certain of the CEP – slightly less certain than I am of the fact that we have never been to the moon. Of that I am 100% certain….

        • Mike Roberts says:

          And to think you said, “Why people continue to raise this topic is beyond me.”

          • Fast Eddy says:

            Wow mike… congratulations on catching that… now off you go … the lambs need to be lipsticked and dealt with

        • info says:

          “Preppers will be murdered… their families raped/eaten”

          Pretty females end up in some warlord’s harem. Rest of family dead.

          • Tim Groves says:

            I don’t know. Somebody has to clean the lavies, grow the veggies, hew wood and carry water to keep the harem functioning. A decent warlord would ensure that preppers were allowed to keep prepping, as long as he/she could cream off the fruits of their labor. Even the bandits in the Magnificent Seven preferred to keep the village peasants alive and working, because it takes a village to sustain a pillage.

        • postkey says:

          So which ‘unmanned probe’ left the reflector in Mare Tranquillitatis?

          • NomadicBeer says:

            Again with this stupid question…
            Why don’t you answer this:
            – Can you see the stars from the Moon?

            That’s it, a very simple question that according to NASA and Apollo astronauts, have no answer.

            All astronomers and physicists agree that obviously you can see the stars from the Moon (no atmosphere).
            NASA and Apollo astronauts say that NO, you cannot see the stars from the Moon.

            So which one is it, and why?

            • Fast Eddy says:

            • postkey says:

              Just watch a video! L.O.L..

            • Kowalainen says:

              Call BS on most things that you can’t verify by solid evidence or experiment.

              Thus I call bovine manure on both the moon landing and the hoax/conspiracy.

              Repeat for the rest of the oozing piles society and alt “scene” tries to shove down your jugulum.

              Revel in non belief and the measures people endure to persist in folly. It is a curiosity.

              P1: The moon landing happened!11!!!
              You: Orly? Were you there? 🤔

              P2: The moon landing is a hoax!1!1!
              You: Orly? Were you there? 🤔

              The best and worst thing about this world is that the last idiot isn’t born yet.

              🤣👍👍

            • doomphd says:

              the bright side of the Moon where the Apollo astronauts landed is very bright, like on Earth during the daylight. how many stars can be seen during the day on Earth? same answer for the same reason.

            • Mike Roberts says:

              So the space telescope never saw any stars? Hint: you don’t need an atmosphere to see stars.

            • doomphd says:

              the space telescope is in Earth orbit, so how does this relate to the surface of the Moon?

      • postkey says:

        “Can you accept the possibility that this is about control to the nth degree?”
        ‘They’ had ‘control’ long before ‘covid’.
        But the ‘plutocracy’ {which, through its control of the media and the political process eg J. Corbyn in the UK?, remains unchallenged?} deliberately {or at the request of W.H.G.?} makes thousands of young people unemployed and threatens huge food shortages?
        Insurrection anyone?

        • Tim Groves says:

          I’m not sure exactly what’s going on or precisely why. But I can guarantee that it is going on, and with the momentum of a runaway freight train. If that’s any help.

          • postkey says:

            “But I can guarantee that it is going on, and with the momentum of a runaway freight train. ”

            YOU can guarantee. L.O.L..

  4. Ed says:

    Portugal is warm and sunny, the people are friendly and relaxed. I highly recommend Portugal.

    The two limiting factors are water and energy.

    Most of the land is used for large scale industrial farming of trees, Eucalyptus, Cork, Olive, and grape vines.

    Portugal has significant installations of wind turbines and seem to be starting on large PV farms. No sign of batteries.

    • Ed says:

      No vax to leave US. No vax to enter Portugal. Two quick and cheap, three Euro, to stay in hotels. No problems with restaurants expect for once on a weekend. No vax to return to US.

      Total of four tests. The test to return to the US was three hour turn around and paid for the the government of Portugal.

      JFK airport was deserted on our return today. Customs that pre-covid was a two hours cattle yard was today empty and took ten minutes. Maybe this idea of keeping the little people in their place at home and at work has merit.

      • Welcome back!

      • Woodchuck says:

        The U.S. isn’t allowing European tourists in unless they are vaxxed. But they allow unvaxxed US citizens back in after a European holiday? Makes no sense.

        • Lidia17 says:

          Of course it makes no sense.. that’s the point!

          https://youtu.be/-4vsQdKCkuk?t=83

        • Tim Groves says:

          US citizens have a right of entry and abode, surely. While tourists are guests who have no such rights. They require permission to enter the US, or at least that’s the legal situation.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            Funny how the law applies … yet it doesn’t when students and workers try to overturn outrageous vax mandates.

          • Ed says:

            Tim, I agree with you that is how it should be. But it is interesting to notice how the system is setup. All barriers to entry by U.S. citizens into the U.S. are put up in the foreign country. Once I got on U.S. soil not a single question was asked about my health or vax status. The guy looked at my passport asked me to lower my mask so the camera could take my picture. Then he handed back the passport and I was done.

            On the Portuguese side I was asked at least six times my vax and cv test status and had to have on file my attestation, in writing for potential criminal prosecution, to the questions.

            They know I have a right of entry and that once my foot touches U.S. soil they have lost.

            • When my husband and I looked into visiting some of the “stan” countries this spring, it was pretty clear that those countries were not very concerned about vaccine status. The US, before reentry, wanted a negative test or proof that a person recently had had COVID, I believe. I am sure that there was no vaccine requirement, no matter where a US citizen re-entered from.

    • Malcopian says:

      The Truth of the Lie

  5. Rodster says:

    “The Market Crash Nobody Thinks Is Possible Is Coming”. The ideal setup for a crash is a consensus that a crash is impossible–in other words, just like the present. What I’m calling for is a rip your face off, weeping bitter tears over the grave of the speculative wealth that you thought was forever crash. The crash is coming as a result of multiple mutually reinforcing dynamics.

    http://charleshughsmith.blogspot.com/2021/09/the-market-crash-nobody-thinks-is.html

    • Fast Eddy says:

      I wonder if dunc’s mother knew that by naming him that … some people might think to add an ‘e’ at the end… to ridicule him….

      Sure she did!

  6. Marco Bruciati says:

    I’d pay any amount today to find out what they thin about situation of today . Colin Campbell. David korowicz Matthew Simmons. Heinberg. And next articol of gail tveberg too of course!! Situation very hard. Collapse download 18% i think

    • ultimtely no one can do better than an educated guess

      the only certainty is that everyone’s guess will be wrong

      • Marco Bruciati says:

        Yes thank you!!)) Anyway they thought and simulation the end of IC from 25 years….even more from 1972 limite of growth. Now they must be very iexting…..we are living collapse in real time.

      • MonkeyBusiness says:

        Alien Invasion is my guess. The upside is the invaders will bring the technology required to cool earth down.

    • Of course, Matt Simmons died a few years ago.

      Richard Heinberg seems to be of the view that humans can get along with whatever smaller amount of energy is available. I don’t think that he understands the tightly interconnectedness of the system, either.

      We know that David Korowicz understands the interconnectedness of the system. He might have some good insights regarding which parts are most likely to collapse next and the timing.

  7. Everything I wrote below could take quite a while.

    A lot of people think there will be a quick crash, where the poor will have a chance to strike back against the elites.

    However, it will probably progress like the history of India, with the higher castes (there are no shortage of poor Brahmins, and they are not treated as high as proper Brahmins) living content while the lower castes slowly falling under.

    Peak Oil is a non-issue for those who can pay.

    It will drag for decades as unprofitable regions will be abandoned and return to the Dark Age, like what we saw in Kabul whose people chose to return to the Middle Ages.

    As the poor are marginalized and eventually disappear one by one with hardly anyone noticing, today’s winners will continue to road for a huge tech expansion so they would be out of the earth, leaving the doomed planet for the poor.

    • MonkeyBusiness says:

      From dust to dust …….

      From dust we came, to dust we shall return.

      • That’s what today’s smartest minds are trying to prevent.

        • MonkeyBusiness says:

          An apple a day everyday should do the trick, I’ve heard!!

        • Kowalainen says:

          Being ‘smart’ simply implies being wrong – faster.

          You see, most smart people are experts at lying to themselves. Specially at their deluded sense of elitist superiority.

          You see, I consider myself as insignificantly inferior to an ant. So should you.

          Great thing about ants is that they’re not full of shit, jacked on hopiates and delusions.

          Hope is for suckers.
          — Alan Watts

    • Mirror on the wall says:

      What planet do you suggest as the destination, how do you intend to get there and to live there?

    • info says:

      How will that work in current day India and Africa?

  8. the acceleration of concentrating everything to the Elites’ hands will hasten and those without properties will be more marginalized, and will be priced out of life.

    The goal is to have the elites , less than , say, 10 million control everything, the other 90 million being servants of the elites, and the rest eating cold dirt.

    The West is retreating from hellholes. The Third World will be kicked out from Civilization, and therefore FF consumption, and we will first see what will happen in Afghanistan as a harbinger for the fate of the Third World.

    I know some of you won’t like what I say. But, the Third World has NO stake on today’s world. They are no different from tenants of a huge farm, whose owners will kick them out when it is no longer profitable to maintain them.

    The world will be IQstan, Richstan and no room for the rest.

    • Sam says:

      Such B.s!!!! Spoken like someone who thinks they have their ducks in a row🤪 wait till your out one night and someone puts a gun to your head

    • Lidia17 says:

      Agree, although plenty in the First World are already being kicked out of Civilization, you may have noticed…!

      • Sam says:

        Yes but the “system “ would have to hold. And that in a collapse is not going to happen. What will you pay your guards with? Dream on….

    • Z says:

      In certain ways I agree with you. I think the biggest mistakes made by the Western Elites has been going into these shitholes and trying to share Western Civ. with these peoples. Waste of time and resources. Quite frankly, if they were intelligent they would have shut down all immigration from the Third World long ago. Alas, the Western leadership is truly delusional especially the political class.

      • unfortunately we went to those shitholes 300 years ago when our shitholes were worse than theirs

        we insisted they were ‘uncivilised’

        when in fact we were the barbarians, intent on looting as much as we could

        check aboriginal societies–they had no real problems until ‘western’ civilisation was inflicted on them

        • Tim Groves says:

          Norman, how do you propose we check on the status of aboriginal societies from hundreds of years ago? Do you have a tardis handy by any chance?

          Actually, I took a trip with Dr. Who and we materialized in various aboriginal societies in ancient Africa, ancient Australia, ancient America and ancient Asia. for each group, I quickly learned their languages and then carried out some questionnaire interviews. In each and every case, on all four continents, the aborigines told me “We own nothing but we are happy. Now sod off and leave us in peace.”

          The only exception were the Andaman Islanders, who attacked us with spears and boomerangs. I had to get out my didgeridoo and play them an impromptu rendering of Tie Me Kangaroo Down Sport before they would calm down sufficiently to answer my multiple choice questions.

          Van Diemen’s Land, I gave the locals an a-cappella recital of Hev Yew Gotta Loight, Boy?, only to be told that they didn’t, as they had forgotten the secret of how to make fire.

          In Central America, we materialized on top of a ziggurat, but looking through the window we were confronted by such heart-wrenching scenes that we decided not to open the door. Further north among the nomads of the Great Plains, an existence of bare subsistence with little in the way of margins or surplus won from nature—and no pensions from the Prudential at all!—made the going hard for almost everyone and especially for women, who were treated as domesticated beasts of burden and as drudges. On the one hand life was nasty and brutish, but on the upside it was mercifully short for most people.

          But I’m blabbering. Can I go now? I’d like to crawl back under my stone.

          • for a moment ther—i thought you were describing 13th c england

            an existence of bare subsistence with little in the way of margins or surplus won from nature—and no pensions from the Prudential at all!—made the going hard for almost everyone and especially for women, who were treated as domesticated beasts of burden and as drudges. On the one hand life was nasty and brutish, but on the upside it was mercifully short for most people.

          • Kowalainen says:

            Paradise is always someplace else, planet, continent, or as a combination of a different place and time.

            The rapacious primate cloner herd is all the same, all the time, with insignificant differences. The flimsy veil of IC masked the roughest edges of the rapacious no matter where.

            And now the gas tank is being drilled with power tools to squeeze out the last few drops before the veil drops.

            We stopped checking for monsters under our bed, when we realized they were inside us.”
            – The Joker

            ☺️

  9. Gerard d'Olivat says:

    1. French Prime Minister Jean Castex has announced the introduction of “a tariff shield” during the winter to limit the rise in gas and electricity prices The government is taking measures to reduce the bills of the French and prevent the energy crisis. While regulated gas tariffs will rise by 12.6% this Friday due to a rise in energy prices on world markets, Jean Castex has announced the introduction of a “real tariff shield.”

    2. This will be achieved primarily by preventing gas prices from rising above those of October 2021 throughout the winter. “The gas price will not rise again,” the Prime Minister assured TF1 on Thursday, setting the deadline at April, horizon from which “the gas price should fall.” After that, there will be a catch-up, since the tariff increases that should have been made will be spread out over 18 months from the spring. In other words, the fall that will occur will be less than what it should have been.

    3. On the electricity side, the estimated 12% rate hike that would take place next February will be limited to 4% through a reduction in the electricity tax. This measure will have no impact on public finances, the Prime Minister assured, explaining that it will be financed by the extraordinary revenues from the sale of French electricity on the European market.

    4. It seems an interesting attempt to spread out the social problems that would accompany an energy crisis over a longer period of time.
    In principle, “smearing” the effects of a crisis is always a good strategy, unless of course you would like as perhaps many on this site that the “Verelendung” would be the best medicine.
    But that is only an elixir that is propagated by exempted petty bourgeois. But of course there are quite a few of them in this small world site of ‘downfall specialists’.

    They can’t wait whether it is about viruses or energy…..Just a little more patience I would say.

    5. Other than that it’s a good site with good links…. You can get away with that.
    Good luck with your specialty …. you keep me nicely informed about all those places in the world where you have undoubtedly never been and will never be. I find your Shakespearean and quasi-philosophical Nietzschian rhetoric very entertaining.

    • Lastcall says:

      ‘Jean Castex has announced the introduction of a “real tariff shield.”

      This is too funny; even Monty Python doesn’t come close.
      This is the mentality of the ruling asses’…

      • I think you are right, but maybe the severity of France’s problem won’t be as bad as for the rest of Europe. France is helped by the significant amount of its electricity generated by nuclear. I expect there still will be a problem, however, if the natural gas price increase is significant. BP data indicates that France imports quite a bit of natural gas.

        • Gerard d'Olivat says:

          1. Dat klopt Gail. De Franse regering verwacht dat ze de ‘klap’ kunnen verzachten en uitsmeren zonder dat het de staat te veel geld zal kosten. De verwachting is dat ze deze winter veel elekticiteit zullen kunnen exporteren naar andere EU landen die allemaal hun fossiele en kerncentrales hebben afgebouwd of gesloten. De winst die ze daarmee hopen te maken kunnen ze dan direct wegstrepen tegen de verminderde binnenlandse inkomsten. Ze hebben dat eerder gedaan ten tijde van de Gele hesjes. Toen hebben ze energie prijzen ook enkele maanden bevroren.
          Daarna zijn de ontstane tekorten op de balans van EDF echter accumulatief ingelopen door prijsverhoging op prijsverhoging te plaatsen. Alleen ging daat stapsgewijs en in de zomer waardoor de prijsverhogingen minder opvielen

          2. Wat betreft Gas en Frankrijk zou je eens moeten kijken naar het werkelijk reusachtige gasveld dat oa Total Energy begroot op 20 miljard! in Mozambique heeft ontwikkeld maar inmiddels heeft stilgelegd in april jongstleden.
          Het is binnen jouw theorie een erg interessant voorbeeld van wat er op de wereld ‘gas….

          https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2021/4/26/total-suspends-20bn-lng-project-in-mozambique-indefinitely

          [Edit by Gail]

          This is what Google Translate from Dutch to English says:

          1. That’s right Gail. The French government expects they can soften and spread the “blow” without costing the state too much money. It is expected that they will be able to export a lot of electricity this winter to other EU countries that have all phased out or closed their fossil and nuclear power plants. They can then immediately offset the profit they hope to make against the reduced domestic income. They did that before during the Yellow Vests. Then they also frozen energy prices for several months.
          After that, however, the resulting deficits on EDF’s balance sheet have been made up accumulatively by placing price increase on price increase. Only that went step by step and in the summer, so that the price increases were less noticeable

          2. With regard to Gas and France, you should take a look at the really huge gas field that, among other things, estimates Total Energy at 20 billion! developed in Mozambique but has since shut down last April.
          Within your theory it is a very interesting example of what ‘gas….

  10. The Permanence of Elites

    http://greyenlightenment.com/2021/09/29/on-the-permanent-ascendance-of-elites/

    There is really no reason for most of the world’s poor to exist now.

    I have said several times that all efforts to make the people’s lives better were useless.

    If we reduce the energy consumption of the Third World back to 1900, so they would not have anything better than mules, all the Peak Oil thing will be moot.

    The space is polluted by satellites broadcasting in Arabic, Hindi (and various Indian Languages), Thai or Malay, for example. They have to be stopped so the space waste do not fill the route to shoot stuff.

    Ending participation of the Third World to the Civilization is the easiest cure.

    If necessary, throw a tactical nuke in every single city in Asia (Japan could be considered to be ‘Oceania” and Africa with a pop over 100,000 and the whole energy shortage issue will end.

    • Kowalainen says:

      Kissing ass much? Vaxxed yet?

      Well FU to the ‘elites’. Who decides who gets the membership card to the club of mutual admiration? For sure in-group back slapping and cozying up isn’t ripe for corruption and evolutionary sub optimality? Just have a good long look at the politicos. And there it is right in your face.

      No, you draw people from the general population based on merit and competence. That’s how (epi)genetics should work.

      Don’t be such a tryhard sucker.

      🤔

    • Tim Groves says:

      If we reduce the energy consumption of the Third World back to 1900, so they would not have anything better than mules, all the Peak Oil thing will be moot.

      Who’s this “we”?

  11. The Permanent Ascendance of Elites will be immune from Peak Oil

  12. Duncan Idaho says:

    695,418

    But that is just the USA

    Passed 1918, and not nearly over.

    But on the bright side, getting rid of the unvaccinated, and our gene pool in better shape.

    • Rodster says:

      Dunce is getting all excited. Time to celebrate Dunce, don’t forget your weekly booster shots. I’ve read, Tony Fauci is now offering frequent flyer miles. A few more booster shots and you might qualify for 10 entries to the Publishers Clearing House sweepstakes.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        The CovIDIOTS will be fattened up for the slaughter … after all the free donuts.

        https://www.nj.com/resizer/nZBU1-ydso2ErAnK6Lusx9Q3lxM=/1280×0/smart/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/advancelocal/ISYIABQWSZBMNFM446OI6JTSEE.png

        Anyone with even a touch of intelligence… would look at that … and think … if this is such a deadly virus… why are free donuts being offered to entice people to get the life-saving ‘vaccine’…

        But then… any person with even a touch of intelligence would know that real vaccines take over a decade to develop and thoroughly test… and they would balk at injecting something … anything .. that was created in well under a year….

        When the CovIDIOTS in the house read the above… they won’t understand that they are MOREons.

        • Tim Groves says:

          Four-months double-vaxed coupled dies one minute apart!
          And not that old either.

          Washington Examiner
          Vaccinated Michigan couple die minutes apart from COVID-19 while holding hands

          Misty Severi
          Tue, September 28, 2021

          A vaccinated Michigan couple died less than a minute apart Monday from a breakthrough case of COVID-19. The two were holding hands when they died.

          Cal Dunham, 59, and Linda Dunham, 66, started to feel sick during a family camping trip earlier this month but assumed it was a cold. Their daughter, Sarah Dunham, said her father warned her that the couple was not feeling well. The couple was hospitalized and placed on ventilators a few days later, according to a local Fox station.

          And here’s the Fox report. They are blaming the deaths on Covid-19, but if the jabs really provided protection, this couple would still be with us. On the other hand, if we must give a cause other than obesity and bad lifestyle choices, wouldn’t jab-induced spike fever be a more plausible explanation?

          https://www.fox17online.com/news/coronavirus/grand-rapids-couple-dies-1-minute-apart-from-covid-19

    • Very Far Frank says:

      You say you signed up to the ‘life-as-a-sevice’ subscription plan.

      Seems you signed away your soul too.

    • Lastcall says:

      Duncan I Don’t Know; you are a sad excuse for a human. Oxygen waster is the term used in NZ.

      In NZ CARM has recorded 60 deaths ranging through all ages.
      I know of several hospitalisations following Injection; I know of nobody who suffered from the flu.
      NZ had 26 ‘Convid deaths’; elderly, co-mordities up the wazoo.

      Glee-fool; enjoy your subscription to Pfizer et al.

      • Lidia17 says:

        Last week, our local paper reported the first “Covid” death in our town this whole time. It was on the front page since he hadn’t been genetically modified. He was taken from us so young… only 82 y.o.!

        You can bet that dozens of octogenarians died in previous years with respiratory illnesses, but strangely they didn’t make the front page.

    • Lastcall says:

      PS: 94 % of those were not C deaths. The vidrus was just a hitch-hiker on 4 actual mordities.
      Don’t let the Facts disturb you though, you stick to the Fauci’s instead.

    • Dana says:

      Hey Dunk – I’m unvaxxed, I caught the crud this summer and guess what, it was a big nothingburger. Now I got natural SUPERIMMUNITY! I guess I got the good genes. Ha ha!

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Please suh… can you send me some of your covid so I can infect myself…. but first I have to make sure that the NZ govt will recognize natural immunity and grant me the Freedom Passport… which is surely coming soon.

        When I spoke to the Ministry of H people I told them I had already had covid but they recommended I still get the injection because … apparently… natural immunity + injected immunity = Super Human Immunity….

        When I asked if should also get the MMR shot even though I had MM as a kid they told me YES! because similarly … that would convey super human immunity….

        Then I said — do you recommend that I just get every vaccine that is available.. regardless of if I have or have not had the diseases… surprisingly they said that I should consult a doctor on that.

        Remember how they used to club baby fur seals in Canada… I’d like to send some of those people to the MofH… with their clubs

        • Dana says:

          Sorry FE, my AWESOME immune system critters stomped the Covid. In fact, I feel better than ever. I don’t have any viruses left to mail out. Now if Fauxzi was handy, I would stomp him too…

    • Rodster says:

      I want to see Dunce divide 695,418 into the 2020 US Population which was around 331 million. The result is a nothing burger. And yet according to W.H.O., 10 million fell ill to tuberculosis in 2020 and 1.4 million died. Maybe Pfizer can make a vaccine for that as well followed up by weekly booster shots.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        But dunc’s response will be — it would have been so much worse if not for the lockdowns and masks… so comparing deaths to TB is not useful…

        Of course ignoring that the worst case scenario without lockdowns/masks is Sweden… currently 40th in deaths per capita related to covid…

        14,856 out of a population of 10M… The horror… THE HORROR!!!

        • Rodster says:

          And yet lockdowns, ridiculous face shields as well as masks proved ineffective. Placebo effect. US States with no lockdowns did better than States with lockdowns. Real honest doctors will say that other than an N95 mask the rest are ineffective. But the pro Covid crowd doesn’t want to hear that.

          My State (Florida) did a lockdown early and that wasn’t even mandatory and it was lifted early.

    • Rodster says:

      The CDC says that in 2020 Covid was third in US deaths.

      1) Heart Attacks 690K
      2) Cancer 598K
      3) Covid 19 (fudged numbers because we now know) 345K

      https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7014e1.htm

    • jj says:

      Dunc. It seems to me the effectiveness of all these shots might improve if the body was used as a pincushion perhaps starting with number one and two at the toes and placing the booster shots every 100 mm or so moving up the body until the top of the head was reached and then starting at the toes again. Feel free to present this idea to your buddies at the lab! Do you think this might mean that after the body is covered twice or thrice the recipient might not carry high viral loads without symptoms and superspread the virus? Trying to think outside of the box here.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        CovIDIOTS are so stoooopid and so compliant … that IF you told them a Booster shot has been invented that definitely will stop them from getting covid … but that it had to be injected into the centre of their brain inserting a 15cm syringe through their eyeball… they’d gleefully book their appointments…

        They are THAT stooopid.

        Re the CEP… the alterative might be that the Elders are using the injections to cull the MOREONS… but I think that is a long shot… there are far too many MOREONS … and if you kill all of them BAU collapses.

        But hey… the Elders have kept the world running for 15 years since conventional oil peaked… so never count them out

  13. CTG says:

    China Panics: Beijing Orders Energy Firms To “Secure Supplies At All Costs”; Oil Soars

    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/china-orders-top-energy-firms-secure-supplies-all-costs-oil-surges

    Is this the fast part (Ernest Hemingway)?

    • CtG says:

      Guys… this is the most serious article. I believe it is true because it has been some days since we know that China just does not do rolling blackouts. I have mentioned in a few posts that perhaps “the cupboard was bare”. It certainly is bare. Now when the prices of coal, gas and oil spikes, which it has, then every country with winter will have to rush to secure the supplies and it will be a massive chain reactions with multiple positive feedback loops. It will collapse every thing very quickly.

      Please the entire article and check out the comments section as well.

      This is serious

    • Dow now at -430. Was at +100 this morning. WTI price about 75.51.

    • Excerpts:

      The news follows a report on Wednesday that China will allow soaring coal prices to be passed on to factories in electricity prices. But prepare for a surge in PPI, which will likely not be allowed to be passed on to CPI due to ‘common prosperity’. Which logically means margin collapse, and shutting down – so even more structural shortages.

      Also,

      The bottom line, according to Bloomberg sources, is that “blackouts won’t be tolerated.”

      Which simply means that the supply chain bottlenecks are about to get even worse since China will muscle in even more aggressively for what little coal and LNG supply there is. It is unclear if it also means that Beijing is about to give up on its laughable pursuit of decarbonization.

      Also:

      The bottom line is that China finally hit the limit of how much slowdown it is willing to tolerate and Beijing is about to unleash a monetary and fiscal stimulus tsunami. It also means that commodity prices are about to absolutely insane this winter.

      In the comments, Greta Thunberg supposedly says, “Blah blah blah blah”

      Also PGR88 says,

      Hang on – Bloomberg and other propaganda outlets told us China was cutting coal and oil usage on purpose – to meet “carbon goals” and to have clean air for the Olympics in February.

      So its really just another shortage, caused by central-planning?

      JDR 20000 responds:

      “China doesn’t do anything for any reason other than for China. Carbon Goals? LOL”

    • MM says:

      Well I see 2 things here.
      China had that great lockdown Idea
      Bloomberg would be the last guy to jump on the “final shortage” story.
      They could just try to massge the markets.
      “blackouts won’t be tolerated” meaning there is some sort of tolerance ?
      I do not see a real shortage in the sense of “low volume”
      I see a bump into the ceiling as another commenter said lately.
      I also see a deliberate attack on the mental health of the global population by putting them (us) in fear and uncertainty.

    • MM says:

      The last paragraph is the most funny thing:

      “The bottom line is that China finally hit the limit of how much slowdown it is willing to tolerate and Beijing is about to unleash a monetary and fiscal stimulus tsunami. It also means that commodity prices are about to absolutely insane this winter.”

      You could tatoo it on the forehead of the economists but still it won’t make any difference:
      You can not print resouces or products into existence.

      And before that they hammer in the phrase “every effort will be taken to maintain economic growth”

      There is no infinite (material) growth on a finite planet.

      It also is quite uncertain, if the CCP will help Evergrande.The whole ghost city thing in china is closely tied to the shaddow banking sector where in the view of the CCP quite some power against the path of the CCP sits.
      If the CCP wants to consolidate their power, and we can say that Xi is a power guy, they could just let the skimmers eat the dirt. So long for our MMT guys.

      Another aspect not mentioned frequently is that FF are traded in US$. Plenty of asian countries have aquired quite a substantial trade defficit in US$ and would be quite willing to sell them for commodities before they will get worthless (!).

      Interesting enough this looks like an effect that S.Gesell was pointing out with “a money” that will loose it’s value over time. Peoiple would like to spend it as quickly as possible to not lose too much value. In theory this would improve the economic situation for all participants. Uhm, yeah it is a theory, don’t ask me, I did not understand it either.

      • Sam says:

        Your last paragraph “ Peoiple would like to spend it as quickly as possible to not lose too much value. In theory this would improve the economic ”
        Maybe that should say governments instead. If you are government and you see the debasement of currencies why not buy all you can today? It’s a gamble but a smart one I think.

      • .. “insane commodity prices” .. I’d assume there is more food stockpiled (by great IC powers) on their strategic and merchant reserve vs that worsening coal / natgas situation coming this winter, although it could become more or less same situation suddenly..

      • Fast Eddy says:

        It’s kinda like a boy saying … I will do everything possible to continue growing … I will reach 6ft …then my goal is 7ft… then 8ft… I will not tolerate 5ft 10…. and once I am 8ft tall I will push for 9…

        At some point no matter what he eats and what he does… his growth stops.

        • Kowalainen says:

          It isn’t how it works. After some time the growth will continue in other directions.

          *Chomp, chomp*

          MOAR FOOD!

  14. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Three in every four Venezuelans are in extreme poverty, a study has said, as a years-long severe economic crisis in the oil-rich nation continues…

    “Since 2014, the country has suffered with shortages of basic supplies and hyperinflation. Millions of people are in need of aid.”

    https://news.yahoo.com/venezuela-crisis-three-four-extreme-122329997.html

  15. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Three More U.K. Power Suppliers Collapse as Energy Crisis Deepens.

    “Igloo Energy Supply Ltd, Enstroga and Symbio Energy announced their collapse on Wednesday, taking the number of U.K. utilities that have gone under to ten in the past two months amid a broader energy crisis.”

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-09-29/tally-of-collapsed-u-k-suppliers-rises-as-three-more-fail

  16. Harry McGibbs says:

    “The gas price in Europe yet again break historic record during the September 30 trading session and rose over $1100 per 1,000 cubic meters, according to the ICE data on Thursday morning…

    “According to Gazprom Board Chairman, record prices were caused by the lag in gas injection into European underground storage facilities and the growing demand for gas.”

    https://tass.com/economy/1344137

    • Big surprise! According to the Russian news agency Tass, the spike in natural gas prices is entirely the result of actions in Europe.

      “According to Gazprom Board Chairman, record prices were caused by the lag in gas injection into European underground storage facilities and the growing demand for gas”

      • Dennis L. says:

        Woops, almost sounds like someone thought they could trade the market, unfamiliar with EU bureaucracy, way to stretch a dollar. It works until it doesn’t.

        Dennis L.

      • geno mir says:

        Europe started to fill its facilities awfully late contradicting the historical norm. During July, August and early September there was plenty of supply which the europeans didn’t take and when the asians started to ramp buying suddenly the price has skyrocketed. Now europe is making fuzz and trying to make russia to comply with their(our) demands to provide cheap energy. But it looks like europe (basically Germany) never learns and instead of trying to sit on a table and negotiate like adult it is throwing geopolitical fists (RT DE anyone?).
        It is easy to see where the issue lies even in deteriorating supply situation. Hungary opted to contract with Gazprom all the needed volumes of gas through pipes bypassing Ukraine, Hungary also behaves as adult and does not put its own interest on second place. Just go and check what’s the price of Russian supplied natural gas in Hungary and compared it to the Germany, Netherlands and UK. Big surprise hmmm?

        • Interesting. Temporarily move to Hungary, then.

          • geno mir says:

            It’s a lovely place. Budapest is one very nice city. The streets are full of narural hottubs and wine vendors are criss crossing between them.
            Their new contract with Gazprom sets price 15% lower than the previous one for the period of 2010-2020.

    • Harry McGibbs says:

      “Russian natural gas supplies via the Yamal-Europe gas pipeline on Tuesday fell by more than half from Monday, according to the data from grid operator Gascade, while the Kremin-controlled Gazprom (GAZP.MM) said the reduction was temporary…

      “Gazprom has been accused by the International Energy Agency and some lawmakers in the European Parliament of not doing enough to increase its natural gas supplies to Europe…”

      https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/russian-gas-supply-via-yamal-europe-pipeline-fall-by-more-than-half-tues-2021-09-28/

      • It is hard to see that Russia really has more supply to give away. It is now selling natural gas to China, for example.

        • drb says:

          Yes, also here in Russia, a short ten days after the elections, vaccine mandate are being enacted. After Oct. 11, no public events, gyms, or university for you. This far exceeds the prior mandates for medical professions. And authorities state plainly that a vaxx only last you six months. That will be four shots a year for the whole population, probably forever. Young people feel like they have no choice. When this happens in a huge country, sparsely populated, with the highest proven hydrocarbon reserves, you can see where we are.

          How do I start a new comment without replying to someone else? sorry for newbie questions.

  17. Student says:

    I remember some time ago someone talked about Padre Alexis Bugnolo.
    Just to give you an update, he has been interviewed by Byoblu information website and TV (link at the end).
    Listening to his words in Italian (I can tell you that he speaks with a very funny and nice US accent) the first impression is of a sincere person. He probably completely ignores world energy problems, but it is interesting to see that he talks about those who are in power in the world like liars.
    He says that rhey are basking in their lies and they are misleading people.
    He says also that they are adoring lies like we adore love and beauty, but they are adoring hell…
    He is also very critical with current Vatican Church.
    It is a spiritual interpretation of course, not logical or scientific, but there are some correct definitions in what he says and I think that people need also spiritual support.
    I don’t know him and I don’t have a clear opinion about him at the moment, but I just wanted to give you an update.
    Please see here from time 10.30
    https://www.byoblu.com/2021/09/30/tg-flash-byoblu24-30-settembre-2021-edizione-1330/

  18. Mirror on the wall says:

    Public opinion in Britain – particularly in Scotland – is hardening against Brexit, what with the ongoing shambles of supply lines disruption, a lack of HGV drivers, empty supermarket shelves, and now the fiasco at petrol stations.

    This winter is liable to be irksome with high utility bills and increased fuel poverty. The Tories have opted for minimal storage capacity for LNS and it relies on ‘on the spot’ supplies, which is not working out. General inflation is also on the cards. Discontent is liable to increase.

    Of those with an opinion either way, 74.3% of Brits think that Brexit has gone badly – and 85.7% of Scots. The LP opposition at Westminster has limited ability to capitalise on events, but the situation is somewhat different in Scotland.

    https://www.thenational.scot/news/19615601.scotland-likely-part-uk-think-brexit-gone-badly-yougov-poll-reveals/

    > Scotland most likely part of UK to think Brexit has gone badly, YouGov poll reveals

    More people in Scotland think Brexit has gone badly compared to people in other parts of the UK, a new poll has revealed. While most people in the UK thought the UK’s exit from the European Union has gone badly, Scotland was by far the most critical of Brexit. Polling by YouGov showed around three quarters (72%) of Scots think Brexit has gone “badly” since the transition period ended on December 31, 2020, compared to just one in ten (12%) who think it has gone “well”.

    Across Britain, around six in 10 (58%) think Brexit has gone badly compared to two in 10 (20%) who think it has gone well. The poll also suggested that age played a part in people’s opinions on Brexit as younger people were more likely to think Brexit has gone badly than those in older age groups.

    The issue was also split along party lines, with 60% of those in the Labour camp thinking Brexit has gone very badly, compared to only 7% of tories. However, even the Tories did not agree Brexit has gone well, with only 31% believing it had gone fairly well with just 8% thinking it went very well. Overall, 32% of adults believed leaving the EU has gone “very badly”, while only 4% thought it had gone “very well” and just 14% thinking it went “fairly well”.

    SNP Westminster deputy leader Kirsten Oswald MP said: “Despite voting against Brexit, Scotland is being forced to pay a very high price. Scottish businesses are losing millions of pounds a week, exports have collapsed, petrol stations are running dry, supermarket shelves are empty, food is rotting in the fields, and the cost of living is going up as Brexit staffing shortages hit our food and drink industry, HGV drivers, and even our NHS.

    “Brexit has left the whole of the UK poorer and worse off. Despite Boris Johnson’s broken promises, the reality is the UK is the only country in northwest Europe to suffer from declining exports since the Brexit vote – as all of our EU neighbours benefit from being in the biggest single market in the world, which is seven times the size of the UK alone.”

    • Bei Dawei says:

      “74.3% of Brits think that Brexit has gone badly…”

      Only three-fourths?

    • Mirror on the wall says:

      UUP has rejected DUP calls for a ‘unionist’ electoral pact in NI at the May 2022 Stormont elections. DUP has collapsed to 13% in the polls, with ‘unionism’ electorally split three ways, and other voters switching to the non-sectarian Alliance Party. SF may well take the post of FM for the first time.

      DUP has in recent weeks threatened to soon collapse the parliament if the NI Protocol with the EU is not scrapped – and they might collapse it in any case if SF got the post of FM. If so, then the days of power sharing at Stormont may be numbered, which raises the question of a border poll on Irish unity, which can occur each seven years according to the GFA.

      https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/uup-leader-rejects-call-from-dup-s-jeffrey-donaldson-for-a-unionist-pact-in-north-1.4684022

      > UUP leader rejects call from DUP’s Jeffrey Donaldson for a unionist pact in North

      Doug Beattie says all Unionist parties reject Northern Ireland protocol but ‘there will be no pacts’

      Ulster Unionist Party (UUP) leader Doug Beattie has rejected a call by DUP leader Jeffrey Donaldson for a unionist pact in Northern Ireland. Mr Donaldson was looking forward to the next Assembly election, due in May. He called for a voting pact to help return “as many as possible pro-Union, anti-protocol MLAs” and prevent Sinn Féin emerging as the largest party.

      Mr Beattie said: “As a political party we are confident in our pro-Union message. It is for others to ask if they wish to vote for positive unionism or negative unionism, to vote for a vision for the people of Northern Ireland focused on the future or a backward protectionist, power-driven vision focused on self-preservation.”

      • Mirror on the wall says:

        Barnier is publicly taking a hard stance against any renegotiation of the Brexit NI Protocol. The French are irked by the recent AUKUS submarine deal that negated French ambitions in the Asia-Pacific region, and over fishing in the Channel, and Barnier is standing for French President in 2022.

        The EU has been adamant anyway, and they must be getting tired of the UK constantly trying to export its political crises to everyone else. The EU will officially make its position clear after the Tory conference in October.

        https://www.cityam.com/brexit-no-way-northern-ireland-protocol-will-be-renegotiated-warns-michel-barnier/

        > Brexit: ‘No way’ Northern Ireland Protocol will be renegotiated, warns Michel Barnier

        The EU’s former chief Brexit negotiator, Michel Barnier, has made it clear there is “no way” the European Union should or will consider renegotiating the Northern Ireland Protocol. Barnier said there was “room” to work on operational solutions related to concerns over the implementation of the protocol, but said the bloc should not accept a renegotiation.

        Barnier also said the British Government had made a “mistake” in its negotiating strategy with the EU by attempting to divide the member states. “The protocol is not the problem, it’s the solution to the problems created by Brexit,” Barnier told RTE’s Prime Time.

    • Mirror on the wall says:

      Boris was in Washington last week to meet with Biden. The Tories wanted a trade deal with USA, as the ‘prize’ of Brexit, but there is a bipartisan position in Washington that there is zero chance of any trade deal while the Tories keep mucking about over the NI Protocol.

      Boris tried to air UK entrance to the USMCA trade block as an alternative, which severely raised eye brows. UK remains without any significant post-Brexit trade deal, and those that it has made undermine local sectors.

      > Ignored on Afghanistan and now on trade: Boris is mocked over cunning plan to join US-Mexico-Canada free trade area after Biden snub – with US saying there is NO WAY to get into the pact

      Joe Biden dashed the PM’s dreams of a quick Transatlantic deal when they met at the White House for the first time last night, telling him vaguely: ‘We’re going to have to work that through.’

      Mr Biden, who is proud of his Irish heritage, also infuriated ministers by delivering another stark warning about wrangling with the EU over Northern Ireland’s post-Brexit trade rules, saying changes must not hit the peace process.

      As Mr Johnson was hit with the bad news, it emerged that ministers are looking at getting a backdoor into American markets via the existing USMCA. But trade experts pointed out that the UK already has trade deals with both Canada and Mexico, and adding another layer of complexity would cause huge problems, for limited benefits.

      The US authorities also seemed bewildered by the idea, highlighting that there is no mechanism for joining the USMCA. And Labour MP Neil Coyle said: “Johnson was ignored by the US in Afghanistan and has failed to even get a date for a future trade deal with America. The Tories’ ‘Global Britain’ seems more easily sidelined than Great Britain ever was.”

      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10016271/Boris-mocked-cunning-plan-join-Mexico-Canada-trade-area.html

      • Mirror on the wall says:

        Biden was pretty frank about his priorities. Both USA parties are adamant about the NIP and any chance of a trade deal. Boris can be as ‘infuriated’ as he likes, but it is not going to change.

        https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2021/0921/1248226-biden-irish-accords-border/

        > Biden: No change to ‘Irish accords’ that results in ‘closed border’

        US President Joe Biden has warned against the return of a closed border on the island of Ireland. He was speaking ahead of a meeting with British Prime Minister Boris Johnson at the White House. Mr Biden was asked about the Northern Ireland Protocol by reporters and said it was an issue he felt very strongly about.

        When asked about a UK-US trade deal, the US President told reporters in the Oval Office: “To do with the UK, that’s continuing to be discussed. We’re going to talk a little bit about trade today and we’re going to have to work that through. But on the (Northern Ireland) protocols I feel very strongly on those. We spent an enormous amount of time and effort, the United States, it was a major bipartisan effort made. And I would not at all like to see, nor I might add would many of my Republican colleagues like to see, a change in the Irish accords, the end result having a closed border in Ireland.”

        After the meeting between the two leaders, the White House said that President Biden had reiterated his longstanding support for a secure and prosperous Northern Ireland.

        • What benefit does the US, or the US+Canada+Mexico, have to gain if it trades with the UK?

          • Mirror on the wall says:

            USA would naturally seek its own interests in any trade deal with UK. That means that USA, like everyone else, would at most offer a deal that covers goods trade, at which USA is stronger than UK, and exclude services at which the UK is quite good and which is 85% of the UK economy.

            The Australia-UK trade deal is an example. Boris was desperate to some deal, any deal after Brexit, however meager, and the result was simply that Australia got all tariffs lifted on its agricultural goods, and UK got nothing in return.

            That deal undermined UK farmers, who are bound to higher standards. The result is that they are undercut by cheaper Australian goods. Ironically, the Scottish farmers in the border region were the most favourable of Scots to UK, along with fishing communities on the NE coast, who were undermined by the Brexit agreement on fishing.

            It would be the same with any USA deal. USA has, forgive me for saying, lower standards on foods and goods, and they too would undercut UK companies. Nothing good would come from that for the UK. There is no way that USA is going to give UK access to its services, come what may. So, the whole thing is counterproductive for the UK anyway.

            All of the experts warned the Tories before Brexit that would be the case. There is no substitute for the EU market out there. The EU market provided UK with a level playing field, with full access to goods and services markets and with equal standards. It is the largest trading block and the second largest economy in the world. And the Tories chucked it.

            UK lost services access to the EU, including financial services, and it got tariffs and custom costs and delays on its goods. Hundreds of billions have already been lost. It lost access to the EU’s labour market, which now is shutting down supply lines left, right and centre. Supermarkets are half empty and motorists are brawling for fuel.

            So, it is no massive surprise that 75% of Brits think that the whole Brexit thing has gone badly. Some of the other 25% are likely ‘die hard’ party sectarians who think that the ship ought to go down with the captain, so long as their party is in power. And the opposition LP is in disarray anyway. If the UK breaks up, then the Tories will have no one to blame but themselves.

    • Mirror on the wall says:

      Incredibly the relatively popular ‘queen’ thinks that now is the time to give Uncle Andy a medal. Recent polls have shown support for the monarchy among Brits to be only barely ahead of support for its abolition once Price Charles dons the tiara, and a swing of a few points would tip that in a referendum.

      ‘Prince’ Andy has done them no favours and neither has the family ‘rally around’. He is to appear before the NY court next month on charges of repeated child r/pe and battery.

      https://www.thethings.com/twitter-slams-the-queen-for-awarding-prince-andrew-medals-amid-sexual-abuse-lawsuit/

      > Twitter Slams The Queen For Awarding Prince Andrew Medals Amid Sexual Abuse Lawsuit

      Twitter users think Prince Andrew should be stripped of his royal duties.

      Prince Andrew has been all over the news recently, and for all the wrong reasons. The Duke of York has recently been served with a lawsuit by Virginia Roberts.

      Roberts accused the Prince of a sexual assault that took place back when he was closely associated with the convicted sex offender, Jeffrey Epstein. But despite much public outcry, the second son of Queen Elizabeth II has so far managed to retain the perks that come with his royal position. The monarch’s latest decree has proven to be no exception to this.

      In 2022, the Queen will celebrate her platinum jubilee, marking 70 years on the throne and she is set to award members of the royal family with medals to mark the occasion. To widespread backlash, Prince Andrew will be included in the list of recipients. The jubilee medals are also set to be given to thousands of frontline workers in the UK, but many Twitter users believe that including the disgraced Prince in the medal rollout means their value will be severely diminished.

      I wonder what #PrinceAndrew is doing now!

      1. Gloating over his medals
      2. Thanking his mam for hiding him
      3. Eating a hot curry with chips
      4. Watching servants iron his uniforms
      5. Watching more B/bestationTV
      6. Planning his 62nd birthday party

      Royal Correspondent Jack Royston tweeted, “How will other medal recipients feel if Prince Andrew gets one with [the] Jeffrey Epstein lawsuit hanging over him?”. And another person wrote, “Prince Andrew must be laughing his head off at Balmoral this evening, knowing he’ll receive a Platinum Jubilee Medal to add to the rest of his medals knowing he doesn’t deserve it.”

      • Malcopian says:

        “2. Thanking his mam for hiding him”

        I googled:

        “Mam is used in Ireland, Wales, Scotland and parts of northern England.”

      • Mirror on the wall says:

        Uncle Andy conceded service of court papers on Friday, after his mum hid him for weeks at her Scottish castle to avoid them. The UK high court had said that it would intervene to have him serviced.

        The ‘prince’ now wants to claim that he is excluded from prosecution by an agreement that the victim signed with Epstein, but he is excluded from the agreement. More witnesses have come forward to dispute his account of events.

        The NY court is to reconvene on October 29. Now hardly seems to be the time for her to award him a medal. The public feeling is that he would have been eager to clear his name in court were he innocent of the charges. No one is supposed to be above the law, including ‘royal family’.

        https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/uknews/16289188/prince-andrew-smiles-as-he-leaves-balmoral/

        > Brazen Prince Andrew smiles and waves as he leaves Balmoral after conceding sex assault papers WERE served

        Brazen Prince Andrew beamed and waved as he ended his three-week Balmoral hideaway. The Duke of York had been hiding out in the Queen’s 50,000-acre Scottish estate to avoid US lawyers trying to serve sex abuse lawsuit papers on him. But the bold prince smiled and waved at passersby as he ventured out for the first time since beginning his voluntary self-isolation earlier this month.

        In a joint stipulation filed on Friday in a US federal court, Andrew’s attorneys confirmed they had received copies of the complaint and summons. The legal papers were signed by attorneys from both sides of the case which set the date for the service of process – when Andrew’s team was officially notified that the suit was filed – as of September 21.

  19. Harry McGibbs says:

    “China’s factory activity in shock slowdown as energy crisis hits home…

    “A closely watched survey released on Thursday showed that China’s factory activity contracted in September for the first time since the pandemic took a grip in February 2020.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/30/chinas-factory-activity-in-shock-slowdown-as-energy-crisis-hits-home

  20. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Global supply chains are at risk of collapse unless governments worldwide restore freedom of movement to transport workers and give them priority over vaccines, a coalition of international business leaders has warned…

    “Governments urged to restore freedom of movement to transport workers to alleviate their ‘mistreatment’… “Global supply chains are beginning to buckle as two years’ worth of strain on transport workers take their toll,” the groups wrote.”

    https://www.ft.com/content/db887ea6-206b-41e8-9d52-68a6a8ce9b0d

    • Harry McGibbs says:

      “Supply constraints thwarting global economic growth could still get worse, keeping inflation elevated longer, even if the current spike in prices is still likely to remain temporary, the world’s top central bankers warned on Wednesday…

      ““It’s … frustrating to see the bottlenecks and supply chain problems not getting better, in fact at the margin apparently getting a little bit worse,” Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell told a conference.”

      https://www.claimsjournal.com/news/international/2021/09/30/306237.htm

    • Give workers priority over vaccines. This sounds like a good idea, for any part of the economy that doesn’t want to implode.

  21. Mrs S says:

    This 15 minute interview with Dr Carrie Madej on what she saw when she examined the contents of several vials under a microscope is extremely disturbing. And no it’s not graphene. It’s something alive.

    https://rumble.com/vn482j-dr.-carrie-madej-first-u.s.-lab-examines-vaccine-vials-horrific-findings-re.html

    • Tim Groves says:

      It’s life, Jim, but not as we know it.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        I do wonder if Carrie Madej is for real…. men like Montagnier… Bossche … Bridle … (I think Bridle even received a grant to study covid…) would have easy access to vaccine vials…

        And they would have examined them… and if there was some form of ‘alien life’ mixed in…. they would have seen it…

        Me is thinking Carrie is doing a Colin Powell on us…

        • Ed says:

          Clearly discrediting the opposition with remarks like it moves so it has a brain and a consciousness.

  22. CTG says:

    Honestly, to begin with, I was skeptical on CEP especially a few months ago. However, with the last 3 weeks, I think it has gone from 90% to 10% skeptical.

    1. COVID passes. Seriously crimping energy use. It focuses people on dictatorship rather than “we are out of fuel”.

    2. Scaring people certainly help to reduce travel and excess energy usage.

    3. With a compliant media, even if one million people died from the vaccine, who knows? It is like a tree falls in the forest, no one is there to listen to the fall. Did it fall? It is not reported, so, does the 1 million people die?

    4. Universally, tourism is dead. Tourism is nothing more than “extravagant energy use”

    5. What are the chances of energy crisis in China, EU and UK happening at the same time. Spreading to USA?

    5. Australia and NZ, which is very far away from everything has the most severe lockdowns. Energy usage is probably so small compared to pre-COVID.

    6. Is there every really stupid people or politician who is so brainless as to implement stupid policies? Perhaps they are too full of brains but hard to explain to the brainless masses?

    7. Too many things happening in the last 2 weeks.

    • Australia, NZ, Italy, .. all seem to be chosen to form sort of a testing ground for applying more severe restrictions, perhaps trialing future steps coming through the pipe eventually everywhere.. or just controlling rods up/down as in fine tuning-evaluation process (the master controller needs the feedback)..

    • Xabier says:

      I can confirm that the BBC has, over the last few months, made huge protests in London simply disappear.

      A quite high level of deaths – short of needing huge burial pits – could certainly be made to do likewise.

      Most people I talk to think only a handful of people have died of the injections or been maimed.

      Propaganda is a wonderful thing!

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Like I was saying… there are only a handful of people on the planet … who will recognize that.. the CEP … is the only explanation … that makes sense of what we are experiencing….

  23. Student says:

    I’ve been informed by a friend of this article divided into two parts.
    There are some parts that can be questionable, but others very interesting and also touched in this blog. There are also interesting links that every one can open and decide to deepen or not the knowledge about.

    https://truthunmuted.org/40-reasons-why-a-covid-19-pandemic-never-existed-part-1/

    https://truthunmuted.org/40-reasons-why-a-covid-19-pandemic-never-existed-pt-2/

    • Student says:

      Of course Jesse Smith ignores energy problems and focus on other aspects.

      • Putting energy problems as the reason for the social engineering project would be too frightening for readers.

        • ultimately, energy problems will bring about social engineering in ways no one can anticipate.

          it won’t be ‘social engineering’ as a pre-determined political intention.

          we might look back in hindsight and insist that it was that.

          but here in uk fuel problems have altered social and working lives.—not drastically yet, but it has been an indicator of what will happen when fuels become either unobtainable or unaffordable.

          nobody ‘intended’ it to be like that

      • D. Stevens says:

        Seems most everyone ignores energy problems or believe peak oil was debunked or a failed prediction. Anytime I try to engage with ‘conspiracy theorists’ thinking they might understand they reply there’s no energy limits and ‘they’ are simply evil/greedy while ‘normal’ people also can’t accept it and believe BAU will continue indefinitely with some ‘green’ tweaks. It’s discouraging when it feels like only a few people in the world understand this and I start to question my own sanity. How can this be apparent to a lazy low-iq moran like myself and escape everyone else? I have to be insane. That’s it. There is no energy problem and never will be, I’ve simply lost my marbles reading too many blogs.

        • I’d like to think that I am the sane one in the group of bloggers. The issue is really peak fossil fuels. The problem can hide behind “too low prices for producers” or “too much debt.”

          It is really a “Limits to Growth” problem, or an “Overshoot and Collapse” problem. It manifests itself in very strange ways.

        • Tim Groves says:

          “Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.”
          — Charles Mackay, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds, (1841)

          I think you are describing part of the process of men thinking and going mad in herds. You feel isolated and discouraged and even start to question your own sanity, essentially because you are unable to think and go mad with rest of the herd. Me to. I find it psychologically tiring and draining to have to be opposed to the majority opinion and sentiment on this issue.

          But I am determined not to go mad just because the bulk the people around me seem to have gone there. It is enough that I’ve checked with a long list of people and in every case they have been unwilling or unable to coherently explain why they think renewables can keep BAU running.

          Sometimes you just have to retire to Bedlam in order to preserve your sanity.

          • Mirror on the wall says:

            You understand that, yet you butt heads with the herd?

            ‘People gonna do what they donna do’?

          • Fast Eddy says:

            I am just waiting for the news to break a story on an anti-CovIDIOT… hunting down masked CovIDIOTS in a place that does not mandate masks…

            For the entertainment value!!!

    • The title of this might be, “Understanding the Pandemic as a Global Social Engineering Project.”

  24. Alex says:

    “[The] number of individuals with mild symptoms has increased very rapidly [here in Singapore]. This has put a strain on our overall healthcare and response system and on our healthcare workers, as many COVID-positive individuals with mild symptoms are seeking medical attention at our hospitals when it might not be necessary.

    The large majority (98%) of cases were asymptomatic or had mild symptoms.”

    https://www.moh.gov.sg/news-highlights/details/stabilising-our-covid-19-situation-and-protecting-our-overall-healthcare-capacity_24September2021

    If the goal was to turn people into hypochondriacs scared of an ENdemic virus then well done.

    P.S.: “Of the 254 cases with severe illness in the last two weeks, a disproportionate 48% were unvaccinated with the remainder being vaccinated individuals with co-morbidities.”

  25. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMdFT0-glA8

    6D chess or plain grand historical mechanics at play?

    Apart from the theatrics – this is strange cast of characters indeed, almost looks like some faction wants let it crumble with such low(est) grade people supposedly at the visible helm ala Bidet, Yellin, ..

    If the debt ceiling is passed only by one party from now on, this will be surely repeated again in next few yrs time, and the RoW perspective turns to “crazies took over the US, lets get out of this dubious debt market for good..”

    And then there comes the Repub “nationalist camp” savior for the implosion-balkanization phase and real de-growth environment, which seems much more digestible pill to be taken for the US pop psyche one could guesstimate..

    • Xabier says:

      Low-grade, very obvious, puppets like Biden and Johnson to be replaced by Technocrat Saviours in various regions?

      This is like an endless night at the worst-ever theatre……

      It’s all so crude and transparent, and yet still so many can’t see it.

    • Interesting video. John Kennedy interviews Janet Yellen and gets her to admit that problem with the debt ceiling could easily be solved through the budget resolution process, with only the votes of the Democrats. So why do Democrats continue with these theatrics? There will never be a truly bipartisan agreement, even though there may be an attempt to spin some other result as bipartisan.

      The US will be in a heap of trouble, it the debt limit causes a problem, besides all of the other problems.

  26. Adonis says:

    What do you think fast Eddie about Billy gates getting vaccinated is he part of the plot or just plain stupid

  27. Fast Eddy says:

    Singapore’s Reopening Resolve Tested as Covid Deaths Hit Record

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-09-30/singapore-s-reopening-resolve-tested-as-covid-deaths-hit-record

    Record infections … record deaths…. MOST vaccinated country in the world.

    normdunc?

  28. those sticky h an a keys again

    i cannot teach originality, on any subject

    repetition doesn’t do it i’m afraid (no matter what the subject)

  29. Student says:

    World Bank disagrees on the use of gas for shipping.
    Maybe ‘remaining’ gas needs to be used for other purposes…

    https://splash247.com/world-bank-takes-its-anti-lng-stance-to-the-imo/

    • The article says,

      . . .the bank stated: “Methane leakage can occur at each stage of LNGʹs lifecycle (i.e. during extraction, distribution, and combustion), and represents the accidental release of a gas which is 86 times or 36 times more potent than CO2 over a 20-year or a 100-year period, respectively. Therefore, even small volumes of methane leakage can diminish any GHG and climate-related justifications for using LNG as a low-carbon substitute for oil-derived fuels.”

      I know that when I searched to try to find articles on the general subject of methane leakage with respect to LNG, I found a lot of articles talking about the particular problems associated with trying to use LNG as a fuel for ships. I expect that even before it gets to the stage of being used as a fuel for ships, the whole process of making and transporting the LNG to where it will be used by the ship will have already brought it up to the climate impact level of coal.

  30. Fast Eddy says:

    The (diabolically) brilliant politics of scaring the elderly

    https://www.headsupster.com/forumthread?shortId=149

    • Xabier says:

      I stood behind a very old, masked, woman at a store: she told the cashier she hadn’t left her house in 18 months……

      • Fast Eddy says:

        That’s the sort of person you hope gets a blood clot from the shot … and dies.

        • Ian says:

          Although perhaps I understand your sense of humor, that is rather uncharitable of you FE.

          Blame the media for making her fearful.

          If she is very old, likely she isn’t too adept at using the internet and relies on the TV or neighbors as her only source of information.

          • Xabier says:

            All the older generation here in the UK implicitly trust the BBC, and the integrity of the Chief Medical Officer, the NHS, etc.

            Just innocents to the slaughter, it’s horrible to contemplate.

            It’s as though the whole sordid political history of the 20th century, and even the whopping great ‘WMD’ Iraq lie, had just passed them by.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Keep in mind… of those who know the term WW1 … most would think it was fought over the assassination of a second tier royal figure…

              Because governments do NOT want people to think oil is important enough to wage world war over… because that gets them thinking… what happens when it runs out…. so they conspire to keep the truth from them…

              https://youtu.be/sehmmzbi3UI

          • ssincoski says:

            I have to agree with Ian. That is a bit over the top! I don’t argue with my CNN watching mother, but I don’t think it is entirely her fault. I would much rather see some others who are at fault take the hit for this.

        • Jarle says:

          Come on Eddy, elderly ladies are not the problem god damn it …

    • The conservatives won’t point out how ridiculous the whole story is because if the elderly can be convinced that shut ins will save the citizens, they will vote to support the conservatives.

      “the elderly vote is the big block. In a country with an ageing population and compulsory voting if all the elderly vote against you it is almost impossible to win. Especially for conservative parties because the elderly are a big part of their natural base. So they are very reluctant to stand up to any of this as the mostly left wing state governments are doing it.”

      I would argue, however, that it is the liberals (Democrats) who are in power right now in the US. And the push for vaccines is highest in areas that vote Democrat. So the situation is not quite a simple as this.

      • Xabier says:

        If I point out the great harm caused, in every way, by lock-downs, pensioners – with few exceptions – just say, in effect:

        ‘Not my problem, glad I have my pension’.

        Lack of empathy, imagination, and the insufferable selfishness of the elderly.

        So I just ask them ‘But for how long?’ An odd look comes into their eyes then…..

        • Malcopian says:

          Tee-hee! I’m a pensioner too, bu ta youngish one, using my private pensions. I used to give beggars short shrift, but three years ago I decided that things were so bad, I shouldn’t ignore them when they ask for change. I notice they have their stock phrases: “Thank you, brother – god bless you!” And often even sometimes “sir” instead of “brother”.

  31. Fast Eddy says:

    Attention MOREONS:

    Singapore – the MOST injected Country in the Universe – has doubled their record for covid infections…

    Do ya think this is the problem:

    Mass infection prevention and mass vaccination with leaky Covid-19 vaccines in the midst of the pandemic can only breed highly infectious variants.

    Oh and… why does SG need boosters if the first injections stop serious illness?

    Boosters coming soon https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Coronavirus/COVID-vaccines/Singapore-to-expand-booster-shots-after-COVID-cases-hit-record

    Let me state this in advance… there is NO cure for Stooopidity…. the MOREONS will read this and react as a dog would… blank stare… then go on barking like IDIOTS.

  32. Fast Eddy says:

    A daily pill to treat COVID-19 could be just months away, scientists say

    https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/09/antiviral-oral-treatment-covid19-global-health/

    Hahahahahhaha…. now this is full retard.

    • jodytishmack says:

      Stephen Harrod Behner has written about herbal anti-virals. He has described how coronaviruses attack our system and the herbal remedies that can alleviate the symptoms. I’ve used several of the recommended herbal treatments when I was infected with COVID-19 and found them effective. https://www.americanherbalistsguild.com/sites/americanherbalistsguild.com/files/coronavirus-1.pdf

    • Why are you talking about COVID-19 on an article about gas shortages? You lower the quality of discussion in the comments section.

      • CTG says:

        I have replied that before. Many of us have “graduated” from talking about energy. We foresaw this coming many years ago, some decades ago. We have calculated that it is not possible anymore to sustain this kind of lifestyle.

        As we sit around the campfire, singing auld lang synd, what is better to talk about COVID and poke fun of the situation. Serious talks on energy is long past history.

        If you are not, please check out all the articles in OFW since it started and you will see many people here that you know. Those days, the talk are all serious on energy.

        Fast Eddie is known as Paul last time.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          To clarify… Fast Eddy and Paul are not the same person… Fast Eddy speaks through the medium referred to as ‘Paul’…. aka The Chosen One.

          Fast Eddy has no need nor desire for hot women… VIP lounges … cigars.. fine whiskey… fast cars… etc… but Paul does… and Fast Eddy to is ok with Paul accepting all the glory…

          Fast Eddy is basically an energy force… HE has no physical body (otherwise he might reconsider the ‘hot women’ and hold onto that entitlement)… HE is pure logic… pure thought… pure… genius… think Spock …but without the body…. think God.. only more interesting… more humorous… much more intelligent … (and HE will never ask anyone for money … so superior to God in every way)….

          Paul is to Fast Eddy as Linda Blair is to PazooZOO…. Not quite like this but sort of….

          https://youtu.be/vg6pWv1B9L4

      • Student says:

        Because Covid is probably a strategy for CEP due to fussil fuels world scarcity.

      • Xabier says:

        Why Covid ?

        Because IT’S ALL LINKED!

        No energy and resources crisis, no ‘pandemic’, no ‘miracle’ vaccine, no ‘New Normal’, etc……..

      • Azure Kingfisher says:

        The scamdemic is the pretext for energy rationing.

        If you don’t receive the jab, you’ll be deindustrializing yourself: can’t go to the stadium to watch the ball game; can’t go to the concert festival; can’t go to the restaurant for a fancy meal; can’t go to the nightclub or the bar; can’t go on that international flight for an exotic holiday, can’t continue holding your current job, etc.

        “They” gave us a chance to deindustrialize willingly with their Glow Ball Worming and Clymate Chainge narratives and Greta Thunberg. Those were appeals to both fear and heroism; they were our opportunities to act righteously by deindustrializing ourselves for the “greater good.”

        Time is running out and so now “they’ve” decided to use coercion to achieve deindustrialization. “They” will retain access to energy sources, of course, and “they” will determine energy allotment for the rest of us. “They” know what’s best for Earth and humanity, of course.

        You get to choose, though:

        Participate in the scamdemic, follow your local and national COVID-19 dictates, receive the blessed “vaccine” injection, and be baptized into the “New Normal”

        Or

        Refuse to participate in the scamdemic to the best of your ability and watch as your personal use of and access to energy resources declines over time.

        Note: For those not given to speculation or conspiracy, “they,” in this context, can simply be defined as the local and national “leaders” in your particular part of the world who are publicly broadcasting COVID-19 dictates.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          If I am to be denied some of my energy burn… I may purchase 20 tonnes of coal… and set it alight in my back yard….

      • Anthro—i was banging on about that on the previous post too. The result was a covid wordstorm

        conspiracies r us takes centre stage, for reasons i leave to you to figure out.

        Everything must be a scam created by a mysterious ‘they’—who of course are unknown, but who carry an agenda to control us in some way—my favourite is injecting all of us with iron filings so that Bill Gates take control of us all via signals from 5g masts.

        Another good one is kidnapping newborn babies to vax them without their parents’ knowledge, all offered as lucid comments, and agreed by others.
        Documented science is a fraud.

        If they were made in isolation they could be laughed at, but this is not the case. They are read by thousands who do not comment.

        The real crisis we face (climate change, energy depletion etc) is of secondary importance, (or don’t exist at all)—conspiracy is everything, the scam mongers attract only their own kind in increasing numbers. This is widespread.

        Any adverse comments are shouted down as stupid, by people who spell stupid with two dozen o’s, and who lack basic constructive language skills.

        • Jarle says:

          My contact from the future says the scamdemic is a symptom …

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Energy depletion is a conspiracy … there is no energy crisis…there is plenty of energy… and we are transitioning to renewables

          Can you stop with these ridiculous conspiracy theories

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Because:

        COMPASSIONATE EXTINCTION PLAN (CEP)

        1. Every country on the planet is on board with the Injections. Even Sweden. When have all countries aligned on any issue? Never.

        2. Not a single MSM outlet is interviewing any of the expert dissenters – Yeadon, Bridle, Montagnier, Bossche etc… and the mainstream social media platforms are blocking them.

        Why?

        Conventional Oil peaked in 2005 http://www.euanmearns.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/C-Cdec141.png

        Shale in 2018.

        According to Rystad, the current resource replacement ratio for conventional resources is only 16 percent. Only 1 barrel out of every 6 consumed is being replaced with new resources
        https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/The-Biggest-Oil-Gas-Discoveries-Of-2019.html

        Shale binge has spoiled US reserves, top investor warns Financial Times. https://energyskeptic.com/2021/the-end-of-fracked-shale-oil/

        Shale boss says US has passed peak oil | Financial Times https://www.ft.com/content/320d09cb-8f51-4103-87d7-0dd164e1fd25

        THE PERFECT STORM : The economy is a surplus energy equation, not a monetary one, and growth in output (and in the global population) since the Industrial Revolution has resulted from the harnessing of ever-greater quantities of energy. But the critical relationship between energy production and the energy cost of extraction is now deteriorating so rapidly that the economy as we have known it for more than two centuries is beginning to unravel https://ftalphaville-cdn.ft.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Perfect-Storm-LR.pdf

        “The global economy was facing the worst collapse since the second world war as coronavirus began to strike in March, well before the height of the crisis, according to the latest Brookings-FT tracking index. “The index comes as the IMF prepares to hold virtual spring meetings this week, when it will release forecasts showing the deepest contraction for the global economy since the 1930s great depression. https://www.ft.com/content/9ac5eb8e-4167-4a54-9b39-dab48c29ac6c

        Collapse Imminent: https://thephilosophicalsalon.com/a-self-fulfilling-prophecy-systemic-collapse-and-pandemic-simulation/

        The Illusion of Stability, the Inevitability of Collapse http://charleshughsmith.blogspot.com/2021/09/the-illusion-of-stability-inevitability.html

        Fed is sharply increasing the amount of help it is providing to the financial system https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/23/fed-repo-overnight-operations-level-to-increase-to-120-billion.html Banks did not trust each other – similar situation when Lehman collapsed

        Oil Gluts – do NOT indicate we have found more oil. We just pumped what’s left too fast.

        Summary In 2019 a second Perfect Storm was approaching – the central banks had been doing ‘whatever it takes’ for over a decade…. Essentially nothing was off the table — throw the kitchen sink at pushing GFC2.0 into the future. In 2019 the guns were blazing but the beast was no longer held at bay…

        What do you do when you are burning far more oil than you discover — and your efforts to offset the impact of expensive to produce oil push you to the edge of the cliff? You can accept your fate and allow the beast to shove you into the abyss…. Or you can take the ‘nuclear option’ and shut down as much of the economy as possible, preserve remaining oil and pump in trillions of dollars of life support to keep the system feebly alive.

        Punchline: The problem global leaders face is that if you unleash the nuclear option without some sort of cover, the sheeple and the markets would be thrown into a panic and you risk blowing things up prematurely. So you need a reason for putting the global economy on ice — one that does not spook the masses – one that is big enough to justify such epic amounts of stimulus and extreme policies — and one that allows you to explain ‘this is just temporary – once this is gone — we will get back to normal’

        A pandemic is the perfect cover.

        End Game – Covid was foisted on us as cover for the response to peak oil (if we don’t slow the burn oil prices go through the roof and we collapse) but it is also being used to convince billions to be Injected. The Injection is meant to cause extremely deadly variants like this .. only worse because we are deploying into a pandemic so everyone dies https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/tthis-chicken-vaccine-makes-virus-dangerous.

        The reason for this is that 8B people need cheap oil to live. They would starve without it. And 8B people without food would result in epic starvation, violence, rape and cannibalism. Industrial civilization ends soon after peak oil. Unfortunately we also have 4000 spent fuel ponds that will boil off and release toxic substances for centuries. These facilities cannot be controlled with computers and energy. So even the subsistence level humans die as they consume these toxins in the food, air and water.

        The PTB understand all of this and that is WHY every leader is on board with the Injections. There is NO way out of this — so they have decided to mitigate the suffering as much as possible by putting us down and here is the mechanism https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/post/why-the-ongoing-mass-vaccination-experiment-drives-a-rapid-evolutionary-response-of-sars-cov-2.

    • Google pulls up an article called
      https://fullfact.org/online/new-protease-inhibitor/
      Pfizer’s new trial drug is not ivermectin in disguise

      A Facebook post falsely suggests that a potential new Covid-19 treatment from Pfizer is essentially the same as ivermectin. In fact the two drugs are structurally very different.

      The post shows a screenshot of a Pfizer press release announcing the trial of a new antiviral agent against SARS-CoV-2, alongside a screenshot of a paper about ivermectin published in the journal Future Virology.

      The post highlights sections of the texts, showing that the new Pfizer drug candidate is a “protease inhibitor” and that “Ivermectin was found as a blocker of viral replicase, protease and Human TMPRSS2”.

      The post’s caption says: “Guess what’s in that Pfizer twice a day ‘covid medication’ they’re cooking up? The mystical horse-worming paste they’ve been losing money on, but with a brand new shiny label that rakes in the dough.”

      But even if both drugs do have a protease inhibitor effect (slowing down the enzyme protease, which breaks down proteins), Pfizer’s new drug trial candidate and ivermectin are completely different chemical compounds. According to Dr Stephen Griffin, a virologist and Associate Professor at Leeds Institute of Medical Research, they are “extremely structurally different”.

      So Pfizer imitates ivermectin’s action, doesn’t use ivermectin directly.

      • jj says:

        pied piperz has found that graphene and other (propitiatory) nano particles allow their new wondermectin to be omost 3% as effective as Ivermectin! They hope to confirm this after experimentation on the worlds population. Wondermectin (TM) requires intravenous administration but they hope to develop oral variants by 2355 using their groundbreaking technology.

  33. Fast Eddy says:

    Fast Eddy enters the room… he sees norm and dunc in the corner and hears them discussing the latest Justin Bieber release… he approaches them from behind…. cocks the baseball bat and…

    How Many People are Dying from the Covid Vaccines in America?

    https://childrenshealthdefense.org/wp-content/uploads/Figure-1-Number-of-Deaths-Since-1990-feature-1024×533.jpg

    https://www.headsupster.com/forumthread?shortId=147

    Fast Eddy hits it out of the park!!! It’s a Home Run…. a lucky kid picks the ball up as it rolls down the street… runs over to the gate… and Fast Eddy signs it for him….

    Someone says ‘call the cleaners’… Fast Eddy says… no need … it’s just a couple of mushy peas… the birds will eat it.

    https://youtu.be/4AVWZwZq_QU

  34. MG says:

    We live in the world that is no longer created by the humans, but by the computers. The aim of the humans to create independent machines is just a part of the evolution: there is a neeed for the creatures with higher skills, both physical and mental.

    The collapse of the clmt due to returning the carbon to atmosphere will cause the return of simpler forms of life as it seems that it was the abundance of oxygen in the air that caused the development of the more complex species.

    But as the uranium deposits are depleted now, a new cycle with a new civilization will not reach our levels.

    Unfortunately, we can not stop this process of simplification, as we do not have energy for that.

    • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

      okay, we can not stop this process.

      that’s fine.

      nature will redo the clmt after the FF age is over.

      99% of all species are now extinct.

      the rest will go extinct and new ones will evolve.

      that’s fine.

      for now, humans gonna do whatever humans gonna do.

      I think I’m in the vast majority who want maximum resource consumption NOW, and discount the future, where NOW is much more important than next year and next decade etc.

      we’ve got FF now, so let’s keep using it.

      the simplification will come later.

      that’s fine.

  35. Herbie R Ficklestein says:

    Monday was the deadline for meeting United’s vaccine mandate, and the company announced Tuesday that it had begun the process of terminating the 593 employees who did not comply and did not request medical or religious exemptions.

    About 96% of the carrier’s 67,000 employees have been vaccinated, and about 3% have requested an exemption.

    United CEO Scott Kirby and President Brett Hart wrote in a memo to employees that the carrier’s high vaccination rate was “a historic achievement for our airline and our employees as well as for the customers and communities we serve.”

    Delta Air Lines will require unvaccinated employees to pay a monthly $200 health insurance surcharge beginning on Nov. 1. According to the Washington Post, 82% of Delta employees are vaccinated, up from 75% in late August.

    Yahoo news…American Airline Pilots Union is fighting the mandate

    • Xabier says:

      Hmm, ‘historic’?

      I suppose the Holocaust was that, and the Massacre of the Innocents if it ever took place…..

      People want health care, but a hundred or so years ago doctors could hardly do anything beneficial and life went on all the same.

  36. jodytishmack says:

    Gail, I assume you’ve seen this information. I hadn’t been paying close attention to electricity use decline during the pandemic shutdown. Some economists conclude that rapidly rising coal prices were because of sharp demand for thermal coal to generate electricity as demand rebound. https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/08/covid19-change-energy-electricity-use-lockdowns-falling-demand/

    • Thanks! The report has nice graphs. People don’t realized how important the downturn in coal consumption has been (shown in one of the graphs). This puts the world in a very troubled situation, and makes imports hard to find adequate supplies of.

      • jodytishmack says:

        I know you don’t think solar energy can solve our transition problems, but as someone who converted our home to solar energy a decade ago, I find that solar energy can give a home owner security. I realize it is only a temporary solution, but our energy costs are fixed. We pay $10 per month to be connected to the electric grid even though we produce all the electricity our home needs. When we purchase an electric vehicle our solar panels will produce enough for both home and car.
        Solar farms are just another monopoly and will require a functioning electrical grid to distribute energy. Home owners and small business owners who chose to install root top solar and back up batteries will be more resilient in the event of power outages. Utility companies who build large solar farms will still rely on the grid to distribute their energy.

        • Jan says:

          We have a little offgrid solar installation in the European Alps. It is possible to generate enough electricity for our needs but they are very restricted, all works manually in our house. Especially in winter we have problems. Perhaps in Spain it would be different.

          I love solar and recommend it but I dont see it as a solution to our needs, the technology needs quite complex semiconductor elements. I doubt the energy needed to produce the glass and aluminium and transport can ever be generated again. It is perfect in remote places and cabins to have some lights and it is more secure than gas or petrol lighting.

          I doubt it is possible to generate here the energy to drive over the mountains. Maybe it is my installation but I dont see that!

          • Well, you can certainly top up charge for some plugin hybrid or small mobility scooter/ebike, but the former is still quite expensive starting at ~30k.. with realistic 40-50km range (out of sub 20kWh batt), low speeds on country roads..for some this is more than needed but there are also many highway flyers in / out of suburbs commuting regularly at distance – and that won’t work with gas / diesel shortages.. while full EVs (say ~60-100kWh) can’t be charged from small domestic system.

        • Unless you are completely separate from the grid, you are making the grid worse off, through your solar panels. You are not paying the electric grid anything near what it is worth to provide backup services for your solar panels.

          Any security that you many think you have from your system is lost, if it isn’t completely separate from the grid, with its own batteries. You need summer to winter batteries, if you think you will use the electricity in winter. Good luck!

      • Student says:

        Very interesting to see for us that Italy took the greatest advange of reduction. It is easy to see that lockdowns and passports made to have permissions to move and work are absolutely necessary to keep the energy consumption low.

        • This is very interesting, because in terms of already lagging-problematic “PIGS” Italy (the Northern) is clearly the most industrialized out of them, no offense to advanced parts of Spain etc, but you get my drift…

          So in effect the policy pushing for severe de-growth for lack of better term in Italy is a great laboratory around the overall IC realm.

        • Xabier says:

          Both to reduce consumption by shock, and keep it low – destroying whole sectors and starting the desired avalanche of credit defaults – and to harm the general health of the population, killing some, but injuring millions more…..

  37. jodytishmack says:

    I appreciate your thoughts on the article, Gail. I found the reasons given in the article logical because it jived with what I’ve come to expect from Xi Jinping’s government. He has grown increasingly authoritarian and seems determined to stay in power and to replace the US as global superpower.
    I hadn’t thought about the situation from the perspective that China’s coal production may be in serious decline and they don’t want the real numbers revealed. If true it may help explain why China recently seems so willing to harm its own economy with mandates it claims are to become carbon neutral. China has had difficulty replacing the coal they banned from Australia. A ban on Australian coal imports would not seem important if the amount of coal was as insignificant as what experts in China claim.
    Here are few articles you also might find interesting.
    https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3121426/china-coal-why-it-so-important-economy
    “Analysts are confident China can increase domestic production of thermal coal, but local energy blackouts at the end of 2020 due to lack of coal supplies, which coincided with colder-than-usual winter weather, suggest domestic supply might not yet be sufficient to meet emergency supply needs.”
    “China does not need Australian thermal coal, although one thing that has surprised us is the apparent shortage of higher energy coal in the Chinese domestic market,” Wood Mackenzie coal analyst Rory Simington said.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/timtreadgold/2021/05/26/coal-hits-a-three-year-high-despite-china-trying-to-control-prices/?sh=57f4f8fa78b7 “Strong demand for power in China coupled with a slowdown in local coal production has combined with a ban on Australian coal imports to create perfect conditions for the price to continue rising.”

    https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2021/07/china-australia-america/619544/
    “The dispute between Australia and China has been brewing for years. Like the U.S. and other democracies, Australia embraced engagement with China, and the two economies became entwined in a highly profitable symbiotic relationship: Australia’s treasure trove of natural wealth became indispensable to China’s rapidly expanding industrial machine. The countries even entered into a free-trade agreement in 2015.
    The ink had barely dried, however, when Canberra began to grow nervous about Chinese President Xi Jinping’s bellicose foreign policy. Turnbull, who as prime minister from 2015 to 2018 was instrumental in forging Australia’s response, wrote in his book A Bigger Picture that China “became more assertive, more confident and more prepared to not just reach out to the world … or to command respect as a responsible international actor … but to demand compliance.”

    • Mike Roberts says:

      Maybe the problems that China has in sourcing coal for its own power stations helps explain why they are pulling funding from coal powered plants abroad.

    • I just saw an article headline from Barrons saying,

      https://www.barrons.com/articles/goldman-sachs-slashed-china-growth-forecast-to-zero-51632835741?siteid=yhoof2

      How Bad Are Things in China? Goldman Sachs Just Cut Its Growth Forecast to Zero. | Barron’s
      Goldman Sachs has become the latest bank to cut its China growth forecast, citing the country’s power crunch, now expecting zero gross domestic product growth in the third quarter.

      As I look more closely at BP information about China, it looks like Australia was only moderately large player in the list of countries that China imported from. In 2020, the country that it got the most imports from was Indonesia, at 2.34 exajoules. It received 2.10 exajoules from Australia, 1.00 exajoules from Russia, 0.79 exajoules from Mongolia, and smaller amounts from elsewhere.

      Australia was exporting its coal in many directions, with its largest destination being Japan, at 2.73 exajoules. China was its number two destination in 2020.

      If China didn’t stop to think that import demand for both coal and natural gas would be way up this year, and replacing Australia’s coal would be a big problem, it could easily get itself into trouble, trying to sanction Australia.

    • postkey says:

      ” He has grown increasingly authoritarian and seems determined to stay in power and to replace the US as global superpower.”

      Look, look over here at the ‘wicked Chinese’.

      Don’t look over there at the plutocrats and the M.I.C., there is nothing to see!

      • Kowalainen says:

        Just how do you think this shebang operates? Pink unicorns and rainbows materializes the wares and tech you take for granted? 🦄 🌈

        Hand back your smartphone and internet connection to the MIC ‘plutocrats’ at DARPA.

        Kthx.

  38. Fast Eddy says:

    The attempt to equate being unvaccinated with stupidity and ignorance suffered a massive blow on Wednesday night when NBA star Jonathan Isaac was asked why he was hesitant to take the vaccine. Like many unions, the NBA’s player union has refused a vaccine mandate, and Isaac, the 23-year-old player with the Orlando Magic who previously had and recovered from COVID, gave a stunningly compelling, informed, well-reasoned and thoughtful exposition on his rationale for not wanting the vaccine.

    Isaac also defended the right of individuals to make their own choice. One need not agree with his ultimate conclusion on the vaccine to see how groundless (and obnoxious) it is to claim that anyone who chooses not to take the vaccine — like him — is stupid, ignorant and primitive. I really encourage everyone to watch his two-minute master class in demonstrating why such a choice can, depending on one’s circumstances, be perfectly rational:

    https://youtu.be/xVS6aUWAWDg

    https://greenwald.substack.com/p/an-nba-star-and-new-yorks-governor

    • Herbie R Ficklestein says:

      LeBron James on Tuesday said he received the COVID-19 vaccine despite his initial skepticism. The Los Angeles Lakers star spoke with reporters on the Lakers’ annual media day for the upcoming season, saying he and his family got the vaccine after he did his own research.
      https://www.cbsnews.com/news/lebron-james-covid-vaccine-lakers-nba/#app

      LeBron James says he got the COVID vaccine despite initial skepticism: “I felt like it was best suited for not only me but my family”
      BY ZOE CHRISTEN JONES

      SEPTEMBER 29, 2021 / 7:24 AM / CBS NEWS

      LeBron James on Tuesday said he received the COVID-19 vaccine despite his initial skepticism. The Los Angeles Lakers star spoke with reporters on the Lakers’ annual media day for the upcoming season, saying he and his family got the vaccine after he did his own research.

      “I think everyone has they own choice — to do what they feel is right for themselves and their family and things of that nature,” he said. “I know that I was very (skeptical) about it all but after doing my research. I felt like it was best suited for not only me but for my family and my friends.”

      When asked if he felt the need to promote the vaccine, James said he only felt comfortable speaking about his and his family’s choices.

      “We’re talking about individuals’ bodies. We’re not talking about something that’s, you know, political or racism or police brutality,” James said. “So I don’t feel like, for me personally, I should get involved in what other people should do with their bodies and their livelihoods.”

      Lakers coach Frank Vogel confirmed his team is 100% vaccinated on Tuesday, admitting he was proud of his players. “Not every team in this league this year has that luxury but we do and there was a lot of conversations and education to get that done along the way,” Vogel told reporters.

      Roughly 90% of NBA players have been vaccinated against COVID-19 but the league has not made it mandatory. However, New York and San Francisco have mandates requiring entertainment spaces and venues to only allow vaccinated people to enter – meaning unvaccinated players would be unable to play without getting at least one dose of the vaccine.

      “A vaccine mandate for NBA players would need an agreement with the Players Association,” NBA spokesperson Mike Bass told CBS News on Tuesday. The NBA has made these proposals but the players’ union has rejected any vaccination requirement.”

      …The NBA should insist that all players and staff are vaccinated or remove them from the team,” Abdul-Jabbar told CNN on Monday. “There is no room for players who are willing to risk the health and lives of their teammates, the staff and the fans simply because they are unable to grasp the seriousness of the situation or do the necessary research.

      This is the story I heard on network nightly news… nothing about not getting the jab

    • Rodster says:

      Today the League issued a statement that says any player who is not vaccinated and cannot play their Home games will not be paid. Jonathan Isaac doesn’t have to worry because Florida doesn’t have a vaccine mandate. Cities like NY, L.A. and parts of California are requiring all NBA teams to have their players vaccinated or they will not be allowed to play at Home games.

      So LeBron James did it because he had too or he would not have been paid for missing out on Home games.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        One could imagine Lebron having the pull (and cash) to get a fake injection….

        • Rodster says:

          …or he could have lead by example and said hell no! I’m not doing it. The NBA would have gone nuts because he’s a global star. I would have loved to have seen that but he took the easy way out or it’s quite possible he faked it like you said.

  39. Fast Eddy says:

    Video: Sofia Benharira, 16 Years Old, Dies Following Pfizer “Vaccine”, Two Heart Attacks, Thrombosis. May She Rest in Peace.

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/video-sofia-benhaira-16-years-old-dies-following-pfizer-vaccine-two-heart-attacks-thrombosis-may-she-rest-in-peace/5756980

    I wonder if she was able to take her vaxxie photo down from her Facebook page before her heart exploded?

    • Student says:

      Yes, it is a very sad story.
      It was reported also in an Italian website called esclusacorrelazione.
      That website has been collecting many stories about adverse reactions and deaths after Covid vaccination since the beginning of the campaign.
      Here you can find the images of the articles:

      https://mega.nz/folder/bJxQkY6T#gXrwzeicW3ZEm5AvQaXSEQ

      if you scroll down you will arrive till the most recent ones and towards the end you will find Sofia Benharira.

      And here you can find the website where you can decide to see the images above or read the full article of the relative newspaper:

      https://esclusacorrelazione.it/

      It is incredible how more than half ot Italians simply cover their eyes and don’t want to see, because they are (or better, want to be) hypnotized by TV.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        I don’t feel at all sad when I read about what happened to her… odds are she was delighted to be invite to get the injection… odds are she felt hip and cool and posted a vaxxie…

        The people I feel for are those who are forced to inject — otherwise they lose their jobs.

        Big Picture – it doesn’t matter one way or the other… we will all soon be dead.

        • Student says:

          Leaving aside feeling sad or not, my intention was mainly to draw your attention to all those articles in the first link.
          It would be interesting if someone else could promote outside Italy that website.
          Numbers of deaths and adverse events are incredibly high.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            Understood. The mockery was aimed at the dead girl and in particular her family…. if there is any way to reach out to them and express this on my behalf please do 🙂

    • Minority of One says:

      That is a lot of plastic (balloons) being released into the atmosphere. Is this not a symptom of why our time has come? Like 300,000 million kg of plastic in the oceans already is not enough?

  40. Mirror on the wall says:

    Has industrial civilisation succeeded or failed if it is coming to its end?

    It depends on the perspective. Those categories imply some sort of ‘meaning, value and purpose’, that sort of thing. Some ‘aim’.

    Does ‘society, the world, the cosmos’ really have an ‘aim’? Or do we invent ‘aim’? If it has no real aim then IC has neither ‘succeeded nor failed’, it ‘just is’ for a time, like all things. ‘Success’ and ‘failure’ presuppose some sort of ‘meaning’.

    If we go with the idea that the cosmos tends toward ‘complexity’, the concentration of energy dissipation through the formation of ever more complex forms, then IC has been a stunning success.

    The fossil fuels that humans have extracted comprise energy stored by organisms aged from millions to over 650 million years. IC has seriously developed complex societies and economies that have concentrated the dissipation of energy. Humans have seriously utilised the planetary resources.

    In that sense, IC has been a massive success. It has done what it is ‘supposed’ to do.

    Has a sun succeeded or failed when it burns out? Normally we would say ‘neither’, it ‘just has’ ‘done what it does.’

    And that is perhaps how we should perspectivize IC. IC is the planet itself acting through humans to turn itself into a massive furnace of energy dissipation. The planet has worked through organisms to store up energy from the sun and to then dissipate it in a massive concentration through complexity of organisational form – humans and IC.

    Stars form, and burn up. And organic planets form their energy from the sun and then burn it up.

    So, IC is an event in organic planetary concentrated dissipation. ‘All life is will to power – and all non-life is too’. It is just what the cosmos does.

    And the planet can continue, after IC, onwards with what it does. Organic life maybe has another 600 million years left, so there may be time for another grand organic dissipative event.

    And if it does not, then IC was the big event in concentrated organic dissipation.

    Even if it ‘means nothing’, a valid subjective response might still be, ‘oh wow, that happened! And we were central to that! The planet really did its thing through us! IC was of the scale of an organic planetary dissipative cycle!’

    It is all about perspective. And the course that planetary evolution has taken is to provide humans with the perspective to be able to see what happened. In that sense, humans are the planet itself beholding its dissipative culmination. And, it is even providing itself with ‘meaning’ through our human tendency to endue events with meaning.

    Maybe the planet, through us and our ability to perspectivize and to endow with will and meaning, is capable of being quite satisfied, fulfilled by IC and its grand organic, dissipative culmination. Maybe the planet is capable of being ‘happy’, through us, with IC and its culmination.

    Perhaps we owe it to the planet to be ‘well disposed’ to IC and to the grand organic dissipative culmination of the planet. If the planet is ‘disposing’ itself subjectively, through us, to its grand dissipative culmination, then maybe it is congruent that it be ‘well disposed’ to itself, through us, and ‘happy and fulfilled’ with its cycle and its culmination.

    The organic planet has then evolved humans both to enact the grand dissipative concentration and to be ‘satisfied’, on behalf of the planet as a whole, as subjective agents that are one with the planet, with its grand dissipative organic planetary culmination. The planet is then subjectively ‘happy’, with itself, through us.

    Perhaps it is ‘enough’ that someone, anyone, any conscious human subject, is so ‘well disposed’. Billions can lament the ‘fall’ (culmination) of IC, but what is congruent with the planet and its organic cycle, and with its tendency to produce a subjective planetary self-satisfaction with its culmination, are those who perspectivize the cycle in a well disposed manner. The planet finds its fulfillment, subjectively, in and through them.

    There could even be the basis there for a ‘natural religion’ to ‘rejoice’ in the culmination of IC, and perhaps even to well dispose the survivors to adaptation after ‘the fall’ (culmination) of IC – to help them to perspectivize it rather as a grand organic planetary dissipative ‘culmination’ that has been achieved and that humans might aptly be well disposed to as the planet achieving subjective self-satisfaction in and through us.

    It probably would be asking a lot for humans generally to be ‘well disposed’, but a ‘gnostic’ faction may be more viable – and they could even gain social power after IC, with a ‘well disposed’ ideology that might do humans generally some good – a perspectival orientation of planetary ‘self-satisfaction’ rather than a myopic ‘misery and complaint’ about immediate conditions. I doubt that it is going to come to pass though, lol. But who knows?

    What else would humans ‘be for’ after the grand culmination, but to be satisfied with it? It would be an era of grand organic planetary subjective self-satisfaction in self-culmination. A planetary self-ecstasy.

    ‘Oh Gaia, Thou art us, and we are Thee. Happy you are in your completion, happy we in ours which is Thine. &c.’ lol

    • Perhaps the purpose of any civilization is to give the humans within it a chance to interact with others in the civilization, and a time to enjoy the fresh air, sunshine, and all the good things the Earth has to offer. For some, there may be time to enquire about the nature of the whole system, and perhaps praise the Maker of the system. For others, their purpose in life may be to simply accumulate more wealth in some form or other. For many others, the primary goal in life may simply be to survive in a very difficult situation.

      We don’t know whether living on this earth is just a step before some other life, in a whole different dimension. Different religions will have different views of this. Governments have told us that they have the power to fix all problems, but it is increasingly clear that faith in government is not a real solution.

      • Mirror on the wall says:

        Thank you for that perspective. Who knows?

        • Trousers says:

          I enjoyed reading that but “perspectivize”???

          That’s not a word.

          • Mirror on the wall says:

            It has made it into the Urban Dictionary: ‘to put something in perspective’.

            I suppose that every verb has to start somewhere. : )

            Perspectivism is a big thing these days, so we may as well have a verb.

      • now that people have become accustomed to ‘democracy’ and the voting power of those same people who imagine they can influence the workings of it,………..it is perhaps impossible now to convince them that prosperity cannot be voted into office after all.

        it never could of course. And never will be.

        problem is, prosperity has increased over maybe the last 4 generations, seemingly in tandem with the promises of the assorted politicos who made them.

        Prosperity (or lack of it) is a force of circumstance. That force is dependent on availability of surplus energy.(or lack of it). Nothing more. The same applies to democracy.

        But the majority deceive themselves that their desires will be met, that (infinite) growth is some kind of dark force that will come to all of us, once we are free of the influence and control of ‘they’.

        looked at objectively, self deception is easy in that respect. So we continue to fool ourselves, and listen to those who offer futures that are not grounded in reality, or ‘theories’ which are based only in mass hysteria.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Civilization (BAU) provides the opportunity for humans to slaughter one another… pillage the Earth’s resources… torturing animals… polluting… while trying to convince ourselves that we are on the path to sustainability.

        Then pointing to Tolstoy, Steinbeck etc and claiming we have made the planet better…

        Let’s call a spade a spade… humans are vile beasts… and the sooner we are gone the better. (Although those spent fuel ponds might keep the animals up at night…)

        • Mike Roberts says:

          Wow, I agree with the first two paragraphs there. The last paragraph is purely subjective.

          • Minority of One says:

            Why not give us your perspective on nuclear waste, re the cooling ponds. In his book “World Without Us”, Alan Weisman devoted a chapter to nuclear waste, and what would happen to it in a world without us. And it ain’t good. You seem to know better, but spare us the details. Please elucidate.

      • Mike Roberts says:

        Yeah, different religions have different views on the next life. That might say something about the likelihood of any one of those opinions being right. None of those opinions has any evidence* for it so we have no way to judge which is right.

        *One might consider the lack of evidence as, itself, evidence for the secular view.

    • Kowalainen says:

      There is no right or wrong, only an alignment with evolutionary process. The earth and universe seem geared in this manner. Who are we to argue about these things?

      Some mechanisms works in this direction, others won’t. The difficult aspect is to predict the outcome of choices. I guess that is why we discuss these matters and share perspectives.

  41. Thierry says:

    I am sorry to talk about covid again, but this one made we realize we did not pay attention to a man called Alain Merieux.
    https://www.who.int/fr/news/item/27-09-2021-leaders-gather-in-lyon-france-to-break-ground-for-the-who-academy-campus
    So, Agnes Buzyn, the former french health minister (who left the ministry at the beginning of the pandemic to be replaced by the ” France China Foundation Young Leader” Olivier Veran) will lead the future WHO Academy in Lyon, France.
    Lyon is known to be the city of Alain Merieux, CEO of BioMerieux. The Institut Merieux is involved in the WHO Academy. Alain Merieux is a closed friend of Xi Xinping and his wife. He co-founded the Wuhan P4 lab with Yves Levy, Agnes Buzyn’s husband. You get it? And more, Merieux developed very soon the PCR tests for Covid-19. Interesting, isn’t it?
    More about Alain Merieux:
    https://www.fondation-merieux.org/actualites/alain-merieux-laureat-prestigieux-prix-chinois-reform-friendship-award/
    https://lexpansion.lexpress.fr/actualite-economique/xi-jiping-vient-saluer-a-lyon-alain-merieux-l-ami-chinois_1503300.html
    https://www.lyon-entreprises.com/dirigeant/carnet/choisi-en-compagnie-de-dix-personnalites-etrangeres-alain-merieux-honore-par-xi-jinping-a-pekin

    Even more? Stephane Bancel, a Merieux boy, is now the the CEO of Moderna.

    • Xabier says:

      Valuable stuff, Thierry, thank you.

      Like Alison McDowell’s organisational charts – all the links in the NWO: Big Pharma, Big Tech, intelligence agencies, Mossad, various foundations and investment funds…..

      • Thierry says:

        Thank you Xabier. My point is, it’s easy to focus on Fauci, Daszak or Baric. but other characters are much more important. Who among Fauci and Mérieux has more power? I let you guess.
        There would be more to tell about the Mérieux dynasty, they are clearly in the core of the giant conspiracy against mankind. I want them exposed now. They are implied in genetics and also tied to the oil industry, hydrogen (Omnium), and others. Their story started with Pasteur in the XIXth century.

        • Xabier says:

          Exactly, Thierry.

          We need to look at the true owners, not just their privileged monkeys in the Death Sciences.

          Fauci, even Gates, etc, are just instruments, not prime movers.

          You might like to get in touch with Whitney Webb and Alison McDowell about this.

          Whitney is a superb journalist, and is top of it all, this vast nefarious network; ‘Unlimited Hangout’ is her site.

          • Xabier says:

            Like another figure from French history, Queen Marie de Medici, they sit in palaces and give secret orders for murder…….

        • Xabier says:

          Also, Thierry, get in touch with Reiner Fuellmich, he is keen for new leads on the conspiracy.

          These shadowy figures need to have light shone upon them.

          • Thierry says:

            Reiner Fuellmich is doing an amazing job, right! As well as Whitney Webb, I much respect her work. I don’t know McDowell, that sounds interesting. I don’t know if they would be interested in my stories, but the problem here is that we have a quite narrow perspective (I am not talking about Gail who provide us helpful insights) and there are many blind spots we tend to ignore. Thanks for your advice!

        • Interesting profile surely seems to be matching probable upper echelons of CEPers..

  42. Student says:

    Another interesting article about Chinese blackouts and relative repercussions in US and Europe.
    I think it is easy to understand why lockdowns and covid passports – or whatever passports (to allow people to do things or not) – are so fashionable lately.

    https://gcaptain.com/container-shippings-latest-shock-blackouts-in-china/?subscriber=true&goal=0_f50174ef03-29e4f84e56-169616737&mc_cid=29e4f84e56&mc_eid=647eb6290c

    • Shipping out less (because of the blackouts) I suppose might help the problem with many ships waiting to unload containers.

    • hillcountry says:

      Thanks for that one. We’ve been seeing dramatic slow-delivery impacts on large industrial projects as it is and now the electric problems in China? This seems to be approaching some non-linear complexity. So, you’ve found a big problem on a job here and need some relatively mundane steel-infrastructure part made in China or you can’t move ahead and it’s such that you can’t work around. Hundreds of skilled-trades guys left hanging. Best estimate on delivery from China, prior to the news of electricity problems, 20 weeks. One can imagine that almost all bets are off now and that no one on either end can possibly give a solid delivery date, upon which so many other schedules and plans are contingent.

      And to think that China was cranking out more pig iron in the 11th-century than Britain was in the 17th; and that before coal, a Chinese text from 120 B.C. bemoaned the decline of primitive simplicity and complained of deforestation caused by metallurgy.

  43. Van Kent says:

    This coming winter, as the world plunges in to its worst energy crisis since the 70s. There might be some unexpected success stories. One of the winners could be Rolls-Royce

    Small modular nuclear reactors (SMR) that are mass produced, have the potential to become the new ‘tulip fever’ after the events in the coming winter unfolds.

    And since Germany isn’t even competing and the forerunners in mass pruduction seem to be in the UK or in China.. well unexpectedly.. the next ‘Tesla’ could actually be Rolls-Royce

    https://e360.yale.edu/features/when-it-comes-to-nuclear-power-could-smaller-be-better

    • Interesting, but I still wouldn’t hold my breath. The first of these small scale reactors is supposed to be finished in 2027. Under the best circumstances, this is a technology for the 2040s and 2050s. All of the safety issues take a while to work out, as does standardization and scaling up. I doubt that the world economy can hold together long enough for this to really work.

      • Van Kent says:

        Hence, ‘tulip fever’.. investing blindly in a commodity that only seems to rise in its value. As the Dutch noticed, and we noticed in the dot com bubble and 07-08, such crazes finally crash and burn.

        What I’m expecting is food prices to rise. The world economy slowing down from China real estate bubble venting. And some small riots (Arb spring) and occasional government coup. But we seem to have a year or two before the trillions of world debt blow up. So.. we have time for one more round of financial crazy..

        I don’t believe these SMRs will be a ‘solution’ to anything. Trucks and tractors dont run on SMRs. But since reality doesn’t matter to investors, therefore these SMRs should pass as a perfect one last final round of financial crazy..

        But remains to be seen

    • postkey says:

      “Could Russia Floating Nuclear Plants Change World Economy?
      By F. William Engdahl
      25 November 2019
      While the EU and United States have all but abandoned nuclear energy as a future power source, with almost no new reactors being built and existing ones being decommissioned, Russia has quietly emerged as the world’s leading builder of peaceful civilian nuclear power plants. Now the Russian state nuclear company, Rosatom, has completed the first commercial floating nuclear plant and has successfully towed it to its ultimate location in the Russian Far East where access to power is difficult. It could transform the energy demands of much of the developing world, in addition to Russia. An added plus is that nuclear plants emit zero carbon emissions so that political opposition based on CO2 does not apply .“
      http://www.williamengdahl.com/englishNEO25Nov2019.php

      • Gerard d'Olivat says:

        Well, that Akademik Lomonosov. You should look at the construction and operating costs of that floating power plant with a yield of two nuclear reactors of 35 MW each. The construction period has become 4 times as long and the cost overrun correspondingly. The operation there in the Arctic will require dozens of technicians. What the final cost per Mwh will be is anyone’s guess. but you’ll probably never find out.
        It is a totally illusory energy project with no future, although the gullible nuclear energy groupies will not give up easily of course.

        • postkey says:

          “It is a totally illusory energy project with no future, although the gullible nuclear energy groupies will not give up easily of course.”

          Thanks for that!

          Let’s hope you are wrong?

  44. Harry McGibbs says:

    “The global credit impulse (change in flow of new credit issued as a % of GDP) is currently sharply negative.” [chart]

    https://mobile.twitter.com/adam_tooze/status/1443236625853542400

    • Looking at the chart, every part of the world listed is moving to a steeply negative direction at the same time. In fact, the US seems to be worst.

      I suppose this has to do with the end of programs meant to keep the many people who lost their jobs still working and to keep businesses operating with workers that they really didn’t need, despite virus restrictions.

  45. Tim Groves says:

    September 10, 2021: Aboriginal elders and teenagers are leading the push to get more people in Queensland’s Indigenous communities vaccinated.

    Cherbourg elder Uncle Bevan Costello this week received his second dose of the Pfizer vaccine.

    “I feel more confident now that I’m fully vaccinated that if I come into contact with COVID I should be OK because I’m a diabetic,” Uncle Bevan said.

    Figures released earlier this week showed only 4.6 per cent of the Cherbourg population aged over 15 were fully vaccinated.

    It’s among the lowest vaccination rates in the nation.

    • Tim Groves says:

      September 16, 2021: Shockwaves felt through South Burnett following sudden death of ‘much loved’ Cherbourg elder Uncle Bevan Costello

      Cherbourg elder Uncle Bevan Costello is being remembered as proud Wakka Wakka man and a passionate advocate for his community, following his sudden death,

      Uncle Bevan is believed to have suffered a heart attack on Wednesday morning, sending shockwaves through the community and beyond.

      The Cherbourg Aboriginal Shire Council described him as a much loved, respected elder, mentor and champion.

      https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-16/vale-uncle-bevan-costello/100466064

      • Tim Groves says:

        And not a dickie bird in the above article about the fact that the much-loved and respected Uncle Bevan had received his second jab just a week before his demise.

        • Peter says:

          Thank you Tim!
          You public service is exceptional bar none!
          Cheers,

        • Jarle says:

          MSM really is a sad sad thing, Tim …

        • jj says:

          You would think these high profile examples of VAX virtue signalling would get saline like the politicians. Why not? I suspect because we are being primed for a reality where there is the story then there is what is really happening. Everyone knows what is really happening but they only speak of the story.

          Whats really happening is as we hit resource crisis and overshoot becomes apparent the only fair solution is a death lottery. Those that participate are entitled to continue to consume remaining resources for a time period. Those that do not participate in the death lottery have no claim on remaining resources.

          The story is yall need booster number 28.

      • It seems like this scenario keeps playing out, over and over again.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Hahahahahaha…. another bites the dust… and another gone….

      https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/60397457/what-a-dumb-ass-yeah-hehe-dumbass.jpg

  46. neil says:

    Some months ago, someone on here predicted the early demise of the oil majors. I suggested this was a Buy signal for the shares. Hope you’re all pleased with the near doubling in the price of Royal Dutch Shell since then. Viva el capitalismo.

    • Sam says:

      Really because I see rds at 41 3 months ago. How far back are you talking? I bought it a while ago and have not seen double effect. I did buy gte and made money on that. I do enjoy gambling!

    • good for you, come back to share more often, lol.

      also as seen on these longer time span natgas/coal graphs (previous comment page) there was always the hint it might spike ~2-4x to reach upper channel boundary from the bottom of 2020 – eventually it did and it’s almost ~6x (600%) .. obviously there are other more nuanced, timing tools for even x, xxx % gains in these betting parlors

    • I think the story needs to talk about depleting coal mines leading to higher costs and the fact that citizens cannot afford high electricity prices. I expect that the government capping electricity prices is a big part of this story as well. Capping electricity prices leads electricity producers to reduce supply, leading to rationing.

      • Duncan Idaho says:

        Coal price is up by 260% from a year ago. From $57 per ton to $206 per ton.

      • JesseJames says:

        Gail, check out The Drummond Co, a privately owned, very smartly managed company in Birmingham, AL. They operate two open pit coal mines inColumbia, the largest being 2 miles in diameter. Billions in annual revenue…

    • I looked at the article some more, and it really does say some things that are worth noting.

      China is, indeed, very dependent on coal, which the article says provides 56% of its energy.

      The article doesn’t talk about China’s coal production problems over the last several years. Its production since about 2013 has been close to flat. China talks about all of the efficiency things and climate things, to a significant extent because of its coal limits problem. I don’t think the world is being told the correct amounts with respect to recent coal production in China. I think coal production was likely down in 2020 and hasn’t been able to rebound enough in 2021 in response to higher demand for electricity.

      The article says, regarding its recent electricity problems, “Renewables also lagged due to late rain and unreliable wind.” This echos problems in Europe. Renewables of any kind, even hydroelectric, cannot be counted upon.

      The article says, “Power companies, which aren’t allowed to use surge pricing, are declining to buy expensive coal if it means selling the resulting energy at a deep loss.” Translated into plain English, this is simply the fact that electric utilities are not allowed to raise rates to consumers in response to a higher cost of coal. With this approach, it is pretty clear that there would be rolling outages.

      The article says, ” Northern provinces are holding back coal reserves to prepare for colder months, constraining supply even further.” I don’t blame them. If there isn’t enough coal for everyone, they don’t want to be left out.

      The article says, “. . .after climate targets were missed by 20 of China’s 31 provinces and regions — representing 70% of the country’s GDP — the country’s pollution-heavy manufacturing hubs were ordered to curb emissions. Heavy users have been asked to halt production during peak hours, and some have been told to shut down entirely until further notice.” I think “climate targets” are simply being used as cover for inadequate coal supplies. Beijing Winter Olympics are given as another reason, later, but I think that is more of an excuse than anything else.

      The article later says that Morgan Stanley estimates that 29% of cement production is being suspended. Needless to say, this will halt a lot of road and housing construction projects.

      I agree that “rising energy costs are likely to spread around the globe.” But how long this will last is another question. The article also says, “Commodity prices have tumbled in recent days,” talking about iron ore and other products the country is using less of. Also, we know from elsewhere that interest rates are rising, in response to rising inflation. The combination is likely to lead to recession.

      Regarding full year 2021 GDP growth for China, the article says, “Analysts at Goldman Sachs and Nomura Holdings cut their full-year projections from 8.2% to around 7.7%.” Really? With China’s problems with imported natural gas as well as coal? And its property sector having real problems?

  47. Lidia17 says:

    I found this to be rather bizarre. An example of the Maximum Entropy Production Principle?


    Aluminium storage facilities are not allowed to mindlessly sit on aluminium — industry standards require them to move 3,000 tons of the metal every day. However, according to the Times, Metro International gets around this law by moving the metal between its own warehouses every day. One analyst estimated that around 90 per cent of the metal moved each day went to another Goldman-owned warehouse.

    The body that governs the industry has shown little interest in reforming the practice, Kocieniwski writes. This may be because the body — the London Metals Exchange — collects 1 per cent of the rent from aluminium storage facilities. Limiting the amount of rent received would cost it millions.

    This all makes for a somewhat absurd working environment. Workers told the Times that they’d routinely see the same drivers making three or four round trips a day. Some warehouses reportedly sat empty 12 or more hours a day, the Times reports, despite the huge backlog.

    https://www.businessinsider.com.au/goldmans-alleged-aluminum-scam-2013-7

    • Hubbs says:

      And the punchline:

      “However, the issue may go beyond aluminium — JP Morgan, Blackrock and Goldman have all been given approval by the S.E.C to buy a large amount of copper available on the market and stockpile it, Kocieniwski reports.”

      In other words, eventually owning physical copper and from there, a growing list of comodities will be more profitable and offer better insurance than paper financial instruments.

      • We hear about government in the past killing people and taking whatever resources they had. Will we reach a stage where governments “kill” businesses like JP Morgan, Blackrock and Goldman and take away the resources they are holding?

        • Thierry says:

          That’s interesting (did you read Ugo Bardi’s last posts?). Provided they have too much money and they don’t know what to do with it, your assumption makes a lot of sense. Metals are gonna be one the assets one must have.

          • Owning copper during (long enough) stag-flationary period of still humming IC (i.e. copper needed for repair jobs at least) sounds interesting, but we could be hitting more recessionary, depression type of mole hill instead with commodities dropping dead quite profoundly, who knows what’s ahead and in what sequence..

          • Lidia17 says:

            Seems like commodity quantities of industrial metals are only going to be valuable to the degree that the industries that use them are able to operate.

            Gail, I doubt JPM et al. will be killed by governments.. They have already *killed* national governments pre-emptively.

        • Xabier says:

          It might well be that they will be the government.

          • Lidia17 says:

            Oops.. didn’t scroll down far enough to see your comment.

            Yes, I think they already are, effectively.

  48. Mirror on the wall says:

    https://tass.com/pressreview/1343609

    > Energy crisis is spreading to more and more industries

    The energy crisis that hit the European continent has already surpassed the oil shock of the 1970s in scale, Izvestia writes. There is a serious danger that it could spill over to other markets and to other energy sectors. However, the world most likely will not face a shortage of oil this winter, according to experts. Nevertheless, oil prices are likely to rise significantly, and OPEC+ might not be able to do anything about this.

    On Tuesday, September 28, spot gas prices in Europe surpassed $1,000 per 1,000 cubic meters for the first time in history. At the same time, Brent crude oil in London exceeded $80 per barrel, a three-year high. The simultaneous growth in prices clearly demonstrates a full-fledged energy crisis, which can only get worse this winter, Izvestia writes. A similar situation also started to develop in China.

    Prices for crude oil, gasoline, and diesel fuel, as well as electricity, are growing quite naturally against galloping inflation when most consumer enterprises feel that tomorrow’s energy may cost even more, Chief analyst at TeleTrade Petr Pushkarev told the newspaper. “The inflationary spiral, not gas, is a much more significant reason for the further growth of oil prices. The gas market is essentially also the ‘victim’ of inflation and deficits, all over the world we are dealing with parallel processes,” he said.

    In any case, a sharp rise in oil and other energy prices is unlikely to lead to an adjustment in the OPEC+ position, which this week predicted that pre-crisis oil demand will recover only by the end of 2022 – which means that there is no need to accelerate lifting oil production quotas.

    “OPEC’s plans to increase production allow commercial reserves to stay a minimum level at least until Q1 2022,” Senior consultant at VYGON Consulting Ekaterina Kolbikova told Izvestia, adding “This should support prices at about $70 per barrel.”

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