Could we be hitting natural gas limits already?

Many countries have assumed that natural gas imports will be available for balancing electricity produced by intermittent wind and solar, whenever they are needed. The high natural gas import prices recently being encountered in Europe, and especially in the UK, appear to be an indication of an underlying problem. Could the world already be hitting natural gas limits?

One reason few people expect a problem with natural gas is because of the immense quantities reported as proven reserves. For all countries combined, these reserves at December 31, 2020 were equal to 48.8 times world natural gas production in 2020. Thus, in theory, the world could continue to produce natural gas at the current rate for almost 50 years, without even trying to find more natural gas resources.

Ratios of natural gas reserves to production vary greatly by country, giving a hint that the indications may be unreliable. High reserves make an exporting country appear to be dependable for many years in the future, whether or not this is true.

Figure 1. Ratio of natural gas reserves at December 31, 2020, to natural gas production for the year 2020, based on trade data of BP’s 2021 Statistical Review of World Energy. Russia+ is the Commonwealth of Independent States. It includes Russia and the countries to the south of Russia that were included in the former Soviet Union.

As I see the issue, these reserves are unlikely to be produced unless world oil prices rise to a level close to double what they are today and stay at such a high level for several years. I say this because the health of the oil and gas industries are closely intertwined. Of the two, oil has historically been the major profit-maker, enabling adequate funds for reinvestment. Prices have been too low for oil producers for about eight years now, cutting back on investment in new fields and export capability. This low-price issue is what seems to be leading to limits to the natural gas supply, as well as a limit to the oil supply.

Figure 2. Inflation adjusted oil prices based on EIA monthly average Brent oil prices, adjusted by the CPI Urban. The chart shows price data through October 2020. The Brent oil price at September 24, 2021 is about $74 per barrel, which is still very low relative to what oil companies require to make adequate reinvestment.

In this post, I will try to explain some of the issues involved. In some ways, a dire situation already seems to be developing.

[1] Taking a superficial world view, natural gas seems to be doing fairly well. It is only when a person starts analyzing some of the pieces that problems start to become clear.

Figure 3. World oil, coal and natural gas supply based on data of BP’s 2021 Statistical Review of World Energy.

Figure 3 shows that natural gas supply has been rising, year after year. There was a brief dip in 2009, at the time of the Great Recession, and a slightly larger dip in 2020, related to COVID-19 restrictions. Overall, production has been growing at a steady rate. Compared to oil and coal, the recent growth pattern of natural gas has been more stable.

The quantity of exports of natural gas tends to be much more variable. Figure 4 compares inter-regional trade for coal and natural gas. Here, I have ignored local trade and only considered trade among fairly large blocks of countries, such as North America, Europe and Russia combined with its close affiliates.

Figure 4. Total inter-regional trade among fairly large groupings of countries (such as Europe and North America) based on trade data provided by BP’s 2021 Statistical Review of World Energy.

If a person looks closely at the growth of natural gas imports in Figure 4, it becomes clear that growth in natural gas is a feast or famine proposition, given to upward spurts, dips and flat periods. It is my understanding that in the early years, natural gas was typically traded under long-term contracts, on a “take or pay” basis. The price was often tied to the oil price. This generous pricing structure allowed natural gas exports to grow rapidly in the 2000 to 2008 period. The Great Recession cut back the need for natural gas imports and also led to downward pressure on the pricing of exports.

After the Great Recession, natural gas import prices tended to fall below oil prices (Figure 5) except in Japan, where stability of supply is very important. Another change was that an increasing share of exported natural gas was sold in the “spot” market. These prices fluctuate depending on changes in supply and demand, making them much more variable.

Figure 5. Comparison of annual average natural gas prices with corresponding Brent oil price, based on information from BP’s 2021 Statistical Review of World Energy. Natural gas prices per million Btus converted to barrel of oil equivalent prices by multiplying by 6.0.

Looking back at Figure 4, natural gas exports were close to flat between 2011 and 2016. Such flat exports, together with falling export prices in the 2013 to 2016 period (Figure 5), would have been a nightmare for oil and gas companies doing long-range planning for oil exports. Exports spurted upward in the 2016 to 2019 period, and then fell back in 2020 (Figure 4). All of the volatility in the growth rate of required new production, combined with uncertainty of the pricing of exports, reduced interest in planning for projects that would increase natural gas export capability.

[2] In 2021, quite a number of countries seem to be ramping up natural gas imports at the same time. This is likely one issue leading to the spiking spot prices in Europe for natural gas.

Now that the economy is recovering from the effects of COVID-19, Europe is trying to ramp up its natural gas imports, probably to a level above the import level in 2019. Figure shows that both China and Other Asia Pacific are also likely to be ramping up their imports, providing a great deal of competition for imports.

Figure 6. Areas with net natural gas imports, based on trade data of BP’s 2021 Statistical Review of World Energy. Other Asia Pacific excludes Japan, China and Australia.

It is no surprise that China’s natural gas imports are rising rapidly. With China’s rapid economic growth, it needs energy resources of whatever kinds it can obtain. Natural gas is cleaner-burning than coal. The CO2 emitted when burning natural gas is lower, as well. (These climate benefits may be partially or fully offset by methane lost in shipping natural gas as liquefied natural gas (LNG), however.)

In Figure 6, the sudden appearance and rapid rise of Other Asia Pacific imports can be explained by the fact that this figure shows the net indications for a combination of natural gas importers (including South Korea, India, and Taiwan) and exporters (including Malaysia and Indonesia). In recent years, natural gas import growth has greatly exceeded export growth. It would not be surprising if this rapid rise continues, since this part of the world is one that has been increasing its manufacturing in recent years.

If anyone had stepped back to analyze the situation in 2019, it would have been clear that, in the near future, natural gas exports would need to be rising extremely rapidly to meet the needs of all of the importers simultaneously. The dip in Europe’s natural gas imports due to COVID-19 restrictions in 2020 temporarily hid the problem. Now that Europe is trying to get back to normal, there doesn’t seem to be enough to go around.

[3] Apart from the United States, it is hard to find a part of the world where natural gas exports are rapidly rising.

Figure 7. Natural gas exports by area, based on trade data of BP’s 2021 Statistical Review of World Energy. Russia+ is the Commonwealth of Independent States. It includes Russia and the countries to the south of Russia that were included in the former Soviet Union.

Russia+ is by far the world’s largest exporter of natural gas. Even with Russia+’s immense exports, its total exports (about 10 exajoules a year, based on Figure 7) still fall short of Europe’s natural gas import needs (at least 12 exajoules a year, based on Figure 6). The dip in Russia+’s natural gas exports in 2020 no doubt reflects the fact that Europe’s imports fell in 2020 (Figure 6). Since these exports were mostly pipeline exports, there was no way that Russia+ could sell the unwanted natural gas elsewhere, lowering its total exports.

At this point, there seems to be little expectation for a major rise in natural gas exports from Russia+ because of a lack of capital to spend on such projects. Russia built the new Nord Stream 2 pipeline, but it doesn’t seem to have a huge amount of new natural gas exports to put into the pipeline. As much as anything, the Nord Stream 2 pipeline seems to be a way of bypassing Ukraine with its exports.

Figure 7 shows that the Middle East’s natural gas exports rose in the period 2000 to 2011, but they have since leveled off. A major use for Middle Eastern natural gas is to produce electricity to support the local economies. Before the Middle East ramped up its natural gas production, much of the electricity was obtained by burning oil. The sales price the Middle East can get for selling its natural gas is far below the price it can get for selling oil, especially when the high cost of shipping the natural gas is considered. Thus, it makes sense for Middle Eastern countries to use the natural gas themselves, saving the oil, since the sale of oil produces more export revenue.

Africa’s natural gas exports have fallen, in part because of depletion of the early natural gas fields in Algeria. In theory, Africa’s natural gas exports could rise to a substantial level, but it is doubtful this will happen quickly because of the large amount of capital required to build LNG export facilities. Furthermore, Africa is badly in need of fuel for itself. Local authorities may decide that if natural gas is available, it should be used for the benefit of the people in the area.

Australia’s natural gas exports have risen mostly as a result of the Gorgon LNG Project off the northwest coast of Australia. This project was expected to be high cost at $37 billion when it was approved in 2009. The actual cost soared to $54 billion, according to a 2017 cost estimate. The high (and uncertain) cost of large LNG projects makes investors cautious regarding new investments in LNG exports. S&P Global by Platts reported in June, 2021, “Australia’s own exports are expected to be relatively stable in the coming years.” This statement was made after saying that a project in Mozambique, Africa, is being cancelled because of stability issues.

The country with the largest increase in natural gas exports in recent years is the United States. The US is not shown separately in Figure 7, but it represents the largest portion of natural gas exported from North America. Prior to 2017, North America was a net importer of natural gas, including LNG from Trinidad and Tobago, Egypt, Algeria and elsewhere.

[4] The United States has a strange reason for wanting to export large quantities of natural gas overseas: Its natural gas prices have been too low for producers for a long time. Natural gas producers hope the exports will raise natural gas prices within the US.

Natural gas prices vary widely around the world because the fuel is expensive to ship and difficult to store. Figure 5 (above) shows that, at least since 2009, US natural gas prices have been unusually low.

The main reason why the price of natural gas dropped around 2009 seems to have been a ramp up in US shale oil production that started about this time. While the main objective of most of the shale drilling was oil, natural gas was a byproduct that came along. Oil producers were willing to almost give the natural gas away, if they could make money on the oil. However, they also had trouble making money on the oil extraction. That seems to be the reason why oil extraction from shale is now being reduced.

Figure 8 shows a chart prepared by the US Energy Administration showing US dry natural gas production, by type: non-shale, Appalachia shale and other shale.

Figure 8. Figure by EIA showing US natural gas production in three categories.

Based on Figure 8, the timing of the ramp up of natural gas from shale seems to correspond with the timing in the drop in natural gas prices. By 2008 (the first year shown on this chart), gas from shale formations had risen to well over 10% of US natural gas production. At this level, it would be expected to have an impact on prices. Adding natural gas to an already well-supplied market would be likely to reduce US natural gas prices because, with natural gas, the situation isn’t “build it, and demand will come.”

People don’t raise the temperature to which they heat their homes, at least not very much, simply because the natural gas price is lower. The use of natural gas as a transport fuel has not caught on because of all of the infrastructure that would be required to enable the transition. The one substitution that has tended to take place is the use of natural gas to replace coal, particularly in electricity generation. This likely means that a major shift back to coal use cannot really be done, although a smaller shift can be done, and, in fact, seems to already be taking place, based on EIA data.

[5] The reason that limits are a concern for natural gas is because the economy is very much more interconnected, and much more dependent on energy, than most people assume.

I think of the economy as being interconnected in much the same way as the many systems within a human being are interconnected. For example, humans have a circulatory system, or perhaps several such circulatory systems, for different fluids; economies have highway systems and road systems, as well as pipeline systems.

Humans require food at regular intervals. They have a digestive system to help them digest this food. The food has to be of the right kinds, not all sweets, for example. The economy needs energy of the right kinds, as well. It has many kinds of devices that use this energy. Intermittent electricity from wind or solar, by itself, doesn’t really work.

Human beings have kinds of alarms that go off to tell if there is something wrong. They feel hungry if they haven’t eaten in a while. They feel thirsty if they need water to drink. They may feel overheated if an infection gives them a fever. An economy has alarms that go off, as well. Prices rise too high for consumers. Or, companies go bankrupt from low market prices for their products. Or, widespread defaults on loans become a problem.

The symptoms we are seeing now with the UK economy relate to a natural gas import system that is showing signs of distress. It is pleasant to think that the central bankers or public officials can fix all problems, but they really cannot, just as we cannot fix all problems with our health.

[6] Inexpensive energy plays an essential role in the economy.

We all know that inexpensive food is far preferable to expensive food in powering our own personal economies. For example, if we need to spend 14 hours producing enough food to live on (either directly by farming, or indirectly by earning wages to buy the food), it is clear that we will not be able to afford much of anything other than food. On the other hand, if we can produce food to live on in 30 minutes a day (directly or indirectly), then we can spend the rest of the day earning money to buy other goods and services. We likely can afford many kinds of goods and services. Thus, a low price for food makes a big difference.

It is the same way with the overall economy. If energy costs are low, the cost of producing food is likely low because the cost of using tractors, fertilizers, weed killers and irrigation is low. From the point of view of any manufacturer using electricity, low price is important in being able to produce goods that are competitive in the global marketplace. From the point of view of a homeowner, a low electricity price is important in order to have enough funds left over after paying the electricity bill to be able to afford other goods and services.

Economists seem to believe that high energy prices can be acceptable, especially if the price of fossil fuels rises because of depletion. This is not true, without adversely affecting how the economy functions. We can understand this problem at our household level; if food prices suddenly rise, the rest of our budget must shrink back.

[7] If energy prices spike, these high prices tend to push the economy into recession.

A key issue with fossil fuels is depletion. The resources that are the least expensive to access and remove tend to be extracted first. In theory, there is a great deal more fossil fuel available, if the price rises high enough. The problem is that there is a balancing act between what the producer needs and what the consumer can afford. If energy prices rise very high, consumers are forced to cut back on their spending, pushing the economy into recession.

High oil prices were a major factor pushing the United States and other major users of oil into the Great Recession of 2007-2009. See my article in Energy, Oil Supply Limits and the Continuing Financial Crisis. In part, high oil prices made debt harder to repay, especially for low income workers with long commutes. It also made countries that used a significant share of oil in their energy mix less competitive in the world market.

The situation being encountered by some natural gas importers is indeed similar. Paying a very high price for imported natural gas is not a very acceptable situation. But not having electricity available or not being able to heat our homes is not very acceptable either.

[8] Conclusion. It is easy to be lulled into complacency by the huge natural gas reserves that seem to be available.

Unfortunately, it is necessary to build all of the infrastructure that is required to extract natural gas resources and deliver them to customers at a price that the customers can truly afford. At the same time, the price needs to be acceptable to the organization building the infrastructure.

Of course, more debt or money created out of thin air doesn’t solve the problem. Resources of many kinds need to be available to build the required infrastructure. At the same time, wages of workers need to be high enough that they can purchase the physical goods they require, including food, clothing, housing and basic transportation.

At this point, the problem with high prices is most noticeable in Europe, with its dependence on natural gas imports. Europe may just be the “canary in the coal mine.” The problem has the potential to spread to other natural gas prices and to other fossil fuel prices, pushing the world economy toward recession.

At a minimum, people planning the use of intermittent electricity from wind or solar should not assume that reasonably priced natural gas will always be available for balancing. One likely area for shortfall will be winter, as well as storing up reserves for winter (the problem affecting Europe now), since winter is when heating needs are the highest and solar resources are the lowest.

About Gail Tverberg

My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
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4,770 Responses to Could we be hitting natural gas limits already?

  1. Fast Eddy says:

    States report increase in breakthrough cases

    Massachusetts public health officials reported 4,378 new COVID cases in fully vaccinated individuals between Sept. 18 and Sept. 25., data from the state’s Department of Public Health showed.

    The Department of Health said 1,155 total breakthrough cases resulted in hospitalization — an increase of 154 over the previous week. There were 254 breakthrough cases that resulted in death — an increase of 37 in the past week.

    According to the Department of Health, there have been 36,723 total cases of COVID in fully vaccinated individuals as of Sept. 25.

    In a newly-released report, Oregon health officials said 2,800, or 23%, of new cases for the period ending Sept. 18 occurred among those who had been fully vaccinated. That’s the highest rate since the week ending July 24, though the percentage has always hovered around 20%.

    Of 2.5 million fully vaccinated Oregonians, 22,900 have contracted COVID and 204 people have died.

    More than 30,000 residents in Indiana have contracted COVID and more than 200 have died of COVID despite being fully vaccinated against the disease, International Business Times reported.

    Indiana health officials recorded 33,851 breakthrough COVID cases among the state’s fully vaccinated individuals since vaccines were authorized for emergency use Dec. 14, 2020. The cases represent 1.047% of the state’s vaccinated population, according to the latest data published Thursday.

    In Michigan, a vaccinated couple died of COVID less than a minute apart. Cal Dunham, 59, and Linda Dunham, 66, started to feel sick during a family camping trip earlier this month but assumed it was a cold.

    The couple was later hospitalized and placed on ventilators a few days later, according to a local Fox station. Doctors told Dunham on Sunday there was not much else they could do, and the couple would likely need to come off life-support the following day.

    https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/broadway-cancels-aladdin-harvard-classes-online-breakthrough-covid-cases/

    As expected… the US is beginning to experience the same issues as the countries that vaxxed first are experiencing… rising infections – rising hospitalizations – rising deaths… among the FULLY VAXXED

    Each sh it CovIDIOTS Oh … and get your boosters!!!

  2. Fast Eddy says:

    Asking for a friend:

    CDC Director: Vaccines No Longer Prevent You From Spreading COVID

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/08/06/cdc_director_vaccines_no_longer_prevent_you_from_spreading_covid.html#!

    What is the purpose of vaccine mandates if the vaccines do not stop you from getting and spreading covid – and almost ZERO healthy people get very sick from covid?

    Healthy Children at Near Zero Risk of Serious Illness from Covid https://www.headsupster.com/forumthread?shortId=43

  3. Fast Eddy says:

    Hmmm… no response… let’s keep posting this till we get an answer:

    CDC Director: Vaccines No Longer Prevent You From Spreading COVID

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/08/06/cdc_director_vaccines_no_longer_prevent_you_from_spreading_covid.html#!

    What is the purpose of vaccine mandates if the vaccines do not stop you from getting and spreading covid – and almost ZERO healthy people get very sick from covid?

    • D. Stevens says:

      ICE cars banned by 2035 and the vaccine works. This they promise you. Don’t worry about the details.

  4. Fast Eddy says:

    Where’s the herd immunity? https://www.headsupster.com/forumthread?shortId=74

    Hmmmm…. does anyone think that Fauci lied…and promised that if enough people got injected … the nightmare would end…

    People do not like living through nightmares… so that message would have been very appealing…

    Most of them got the injection — that was invented in less than a year and ‘thoroughly tested’

    He wouldn’t lie would he???? Governments don’t lie to the people… and they don’t have any secrets (otherwise known as conspiracies)

  5. Fast Eddy says:

    Teachers – We Need FBI Protection From “Mobs” Of Parents Irate Over Mask Mandates

    https://www.headsupster.com/forumthread?shortId=165

  6. Fast Eddy says:

    I think they are shouting f789 norm dunc…

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1444460915802484737

  7. nikoB says:

    Regarding Merck’s new drug molnupiravir.

    From wiki

    Mechanism of action

    Molnupiravir is metabolized into a ribonucleoside analog that resembles cytidine, ß-d-N 4-Hydroxycytidine 5′-triphosphate (also called EIDD-1931 5′-triphosphate).[4][5] During replication, the virus’s RNA polymerase enzyme incorporates EIDD-1931 into newly made RNA instead of using real cytidine.[5]

    EIDD-1931 can swap between two forms (tautomers), one of which mimics cytidine (C) and the other of which mimics uridine (U).[6] When the viral RNA polymerase attempts to copy RNA containing EIDD-1931, it sometimes interprets it as C and sometimes as U.[6] This causes a massive number of mutations in all downstream viral copies that exceeds the threshold the virus can survive, an effect called viral error catastrophe or lethal mutagenesis.[5][7]

    What isn’t discussed here or any of the press releases I have seen yet is that RNA polymerase function and the encoding of an analogue cytidine also occurs in most of our other cells that are not infected. This means it will most likely interfere with normal cell function of producing proteins from DNA through RNA.

    This is different to how ivermectin works as a blocker of viral replicase, protease and human TMPRSS2,

    The next wave of chronic health concerns could be coming soon.

    • Azure Kingfisher says:

      VG @ Beverly Pokorski

      “Looks like a whistleblower complaint was filed in April 2020 by former head of Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority against Molnupiravir. It is alleged it may have mutagenic properties which can change genetic material.”

      Lily García

      “Honestly I do think it’s best to not trust anything medical wise anymore. Who knows what really is the underlining plan with governments. All these theories going on which I did not want to believe but from what I’ve been experiencing and seeing others suffer I do believe something is not right. People/media saying a lot of misinformation going on in regards to these vaccines I had to be a victim to actually believe it. There is no misinformation these are real stories we are suffering from injuries and medical system needs to act quick on this matter. Please.”

      Beverly Pokorski @ VG

      “It has caused birth defects in mice but Merck denies any genetic damage at higher and longer doses in humans.

      “Will we really know? Not until people start taking it…”

      Beverly Pokorski @ VG

      “I have to amend my previous comment.

      “Drugs in the same class as molnupiravir have been linked to birth defects in animal studies. Merck has said similar studies of molnupiravir – for longer and at higher doses than used in humans – indicate that the drug does not affect mammalian DNA.”

      https://www.medscape.com/sites/public/covid-19/vaccine-insights/how-concerned-are-you-about-vaccine-related-adverse-events

    • Too much complexity!

  8. Fast Eddy says:

    mike… attention mike the plug…

    The paper, published in Eurosurveillance, a journal published by the European Centers for Disease Control, explains that the outbreak rapidly spread among both patients and staff of the hospital’s dialysis unit, the Covid-19 ward, and other wards. At the time, 238 out of 248 of exposed patients and staff had been fully vaccinated with Pfizer’s mRNA vaccine.

    Check out what happened next! https://www.headsupster.com/forumthread?shortId=164

    • Hideaway says:

      If you actually read the full study, it showed that only 10.3% of staff caught the virus in the highly vaccinated group.
      Those vaccinated that died were much older av 77 and all had comorbidities, plus were an average of 177 days after second dose..

      Reading of the study itself tends to support the need for booster vaccinations. Perhaps you shouldn’t have linked to that study as it disproves your arguments, unless you take some numbers way out of context, which is rank amateur stuff..

      The actual study …
      https://www.eurosurveillance.org/content/10.2807/1560-7917.ES.2021.26.39.2100822#html_fulltext

      • Hideaway says:

        I should have included the punchline from the study ….

        “Data from Israel imply that the main reason for the increase in COVID-19 cases in summer is indeed waning immunity, and a third vaccine dose, 5 months after the second dose will possibly result in trend reversal [13,14].”

        • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

          what are the results of the 5 and 10 year studies for the side effects of boosters given every 5 months?

          • Fast Eddy says:

            Not necessary … because this will happen long before that…. and Devil Covid will extinct humans

            https://www.headsupster.com/forumthread?shortId=163

            Because:

            During the original vaccine trials in the summer and fall of 2020 they deliberately did not test any of the recipients for asymptomatic infections. Only a person who developed a significant illness was tested. This has continued post roll-out with the CDC specifying that a close contact of a known case who was vaccinated did not need to quarantine or be tested until and unless they became symptomatic.

            They knew damn well, in other words, that the jabs were not sterilizing but did not want that data up for public debate because then those who have read history would be likely to make the connection to the present day and thus they did their level best to hide it. That has now blown up in their face with it being conclusively known that jabbed people in fact not only get infected but spread the virus to others.

            The problem with non-sterilizing vaccines is simply this: There is no safe means of mass-use of non-sterilizing vaccines so long as transmission within the community does or is likely to exist.

            Ever.

            There are no exceptions.

            https://www.headsupster.com/forumthread?shortId=95

            This is being done ON PURPOSE.

      • Mike Roberts says:

        Overall, there were 21 cases in vaccinated individuals and 2 cases in unvaccinated individuals out of 238 and 10 exposed individuals respectively. This means that 8.8% of vaccinated exposed people contracted the disease whilst 20% of unvaccinated exposed people contracted the disease. Remember, also, that these patients already had medical conditions. The shortest time since vaccination was 5 months, so no-one with a more recent vaccination (0-5 months) contracted the virus.

        Fast Freddy, however, ignores all this and even invents conclusions like, “Again, the fact that 96 percent of the people in this population had been vaccinated – a level far above early estimates of the percentages required for herd immunity – apparently made no difference.”

        It’s long been clear that herd immunity is not possible with either vaccines or prior infections but some people like to spread information that seems to give some support to their extreme views, but, if examined in detail, do nothing of the sort.

    • This is a link to the eurosurveillance article (which FE gives in his story)

      https://www.eurosurveillance.org/content/10.2807/1560-7917.ES.2021.26.39.2100822#html_fulltext

      It is also fairly readable.

      “Meir Medical Center has 780 beds, most rooms accommodate three to four patients, 1 m apart with separation curtain partitions between beds.” [This prevents the spread of germs?]

      “The index case was a fully vaccinated haemodialysis patient in their 70s. They were admitted to Ward A in mid-July with fever and cough and placed in a room with three other patients. On admission day, the index case was not tested for SARS-CoV-2, because their symptoms were mistaken for possible bloodstream infection exacerbating congestive heart failure.”

      “The attack rate among exposed individuals reached 23.3% in patients and 10.3% in staff, with 96.2% vaccination rate among exposed individuals. Moreover, several transmissions probably occurred between two individuals both wearing surgical masks, and in one instance using full PPE, including N-95 mask, face shield, gown and gloves.”

      The original article calls for booster shots, “particularly in individuals with high risk factors for severe COVID-19.”

  9. Azure Kingfisher says:

    “Our vaccines are working exceptionally well. They continue to work well for Delta with regard to severe illness and death – they prevent it, but what they can’t do anymore is prevent transmission. So if you’re going home to someone who has not vaccinated… I would suggest you wear a mask in public indoor settings.” – Rochelle Walensky, CDC Director

    If the “vaccines” cannot prevent transmission then why the “vaccine” mandates?

    Given Walensky’s suggestion, are masks more effective at preventing transmission than the “vaccines?”

    “According to a preprint study by British scientists at the University of Oxford, people who have taken AstraZeneca’s Covid-19 vaccine and contract the virus are just as likely to spread it as the unvaccinated after 90 days, while the Pfizer vaccine’s ability to reduce transmission is ‘substantially’ reduced over the same period, according to the records of nearly 150,000 contacts that were traced from approximately 100,000 initial cases.”

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/vaccinated-individuals-can-spread-covid-almost-easily-after-90-days-walensky-warns-over

    • Since the study was done in the UK, the only two vaccines that they could look at were AstraZeneca’s and Pfizer’s. Both seemed to reduce transmission when the original Wuhan version of the virus was involved.

      Now that Delta is involved, the protection against transmission is much lessened from the vaccines. This is especially the case when it is at least 90 days after vaccination. AZ did nothing at all to prevent the spread after 90 days. Pfizer’s benefit was ‘substantially reduced.’

      Maybe masks work better than vaccines.

      • Mike Roberts says:

        The article on ZeroHedge, later had, “Specifically, if a vaccinated individual is infected with the Delta variant, a given contact was 65% less likely to test positive if the infected had two doses of the Pfizer vaccine, and 36% less likely with AstraZeneca.” This reduced transmission did wane over time.

        I’m not a great fan of Zero Hedge but those quoting it (Azure Kingfisher) ought to read the whole article first and also check any research referred to.

    • Hideaway says:

      Because the vaccines are about lowering the hospitalisation and death rate, which they are clearly doing.

      It amazes me how many people don’t want to look at the numbers of vaccinated to unvaccinated in hospitals, where the evidence clearly shows benefit of vaccines by keeping people out of hospital.

      According to nurses from hospitals unvaccinated covid patients are begging for the vaccine just before going into ventilators in ICU..

      https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-03/covid-patients-begging-for-vaccines-victorian-nurse-says/100510672

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Round and round we go with the MOREONS who continue to quote the same MSM that told them the vaccines would create herd immunity. MORE – ONS.

        Just wait a few months… the US will encounter the same issues as the countries that vaxxed before them:

        https://www.headsupster.com/forumthread?shortId=98

        https://cdn.substack.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd6bbf18f-3070-41f4-9762-0fc1eba11186_750x474.jpeg

        For the mentally challenged MOREONS:

        But while 81.3% of people over 16 have received two vaccine doses, there are currently 8,340 COVID-19 patients in hospital in Britain, compared to just 1,066 a year ago.

        https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/hospital-strain-test-uks-vaccine-based-winter-covid-plan-2021-09-15/

        Get your jabs MOREONS… come and get them… free jabs for the MOREONS!!!

        Hahahahaha…. if you think about it … Fast Eddy is not really as amazing as He says He is…

        How difficult is it to be a God/Emperor… when surrounded mostly by utter imbeciles hahahaahahahaha….

        • JMS says:

          Definition of moron: a person who need to believe MSM so that his/her head doesn’t explode.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            It would be interesting to test this theory … just to see….

            But unfortunately it is impossible to get a MOREON to change their mind… that is what makes them MOREONS.

            It’s an innate talent they have the makes it impossible to learn… impossible to have aha moments… impossible to recognize the facts have changes so they need to change their minds….

            They are so stoooopid (how stoooopid?) that they don’t even know they are stooooopid…. for them… it’s normal…

            If they have even a tiny bit of intelligence they’d realize they are out of their depth and leave OFW permanently.

            But they won’t because they are MOREONS… and we need MOREONS on OFW …. because they provide fodder for the OFW Core…

            Dance MOREONS dance…. please feel free to post your illogical… dummm…. MOREONIC comments….

            • Mike Roberts says:

              But unfortunately it is impossible to get a MOREON to change their mind… that is what makes them MOREONS.

              What have you changed your mind on, Fast Eddy?

            • Fast Eddy says:

              so many things.. doomsday prepping… covid… up until the past year or so I was actually stooopid enough to assume we had been to the moon!!!!

              Did I mention I used to subscribe to the International Herald Tribune? (that’s the NYT)

              The thing is … once you realize it’s all a matrix… the layers get slough off rapidly…

            • Mike Roberts says:

              Really? In a minute, I found out that you wrote this in April 2020:

              I had investigated the moon thing many months ago … Notice the reaction when I posted FACTS that prove we have never been past low orbit (NASA itself admits it)

              So, assuming “many months ago” was more than a few months, “the past year or so” is not entirely truthful. In that comment you made claims about what NASA said but provided no reference.

              I couldn’t really be bothered to dig further, as the moon landing is really an irrelevance in our finite world though you seem to bring it up frequently despite not understanding why anyone would bring it up.

              However, assuming your claim to changing your mind on some irrelevant subject is not a lie, well done!

      • Azure Kingfisher says:

        “Because the vaccines are about lowering the hospitalisation and death rate, which they are clearly doing.”

        So we need “vaccine” mandates for leaky “vaccines?”

        I’d like to ask Walensky a hypothetical question:

        “You only get to choose one, Rochelle. Which would you rather have for the duration of the scamdemic: the leaky “vaccine” or a mask?”

    • Fast Eddy says:

      CDC Director: Vaccines No Longer Prevent You From Spreading COVID

      https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/08/06/cdc_director_vaccines_no_longer_prevent_you_from_spreading_covid.html#!

      I know I will not get an answer because I have asked other MOREONS the same question and they do not respond:

      What is the purpose of vaccine mandates if the vaccines do not stop you from getting and spreading covid – and almost ZERO healthy people get very sick from covid?

  10. MG says:

    The year 2008 brought the high oil prices which destroyed the mobility and the EVs started to be promoted as a cheaper and cleaner alternative.

    If the system is somewhat to be continued, the logical outcome is that the houses with zero energy needs are going to be promoted. Which, in the end, includes the depopulation of the areas where such houses are not possible.

    The current energy problems of China signal the end of the growth engine that allowed for the continuation after the oil shock of 2008.

    The high natural gas prices mean that the proponents of the decarbonization have another reason for hastening the demise of the fossil fuels.

    It is not the green agenda which causes such outcomes, but the actual too high prices for the consumers that will persuade to accept the decarbonization ideas also by those who doubted the clmt chng issues!

    I still say that the clmt chng topic is actually about the inability of the humans to acquire and maintain the areas of the Earth as the habitats of the human species. We are not able to reclaim the degraded areas for humans, but just for other species. The ideas of the recreation of the nature, reforestation etc. reflect the declining energy of the humans. The human species is already receding…

    • I am not sure exactly what happens. I think high energy prices will likely bring serious recession rather soon.

      High prices also lead to financial problems. I can imagine the financial system starting to break apart, with less convertibility among currencies, and the US dollar no longer the reserve currency.

      Or maybe recession leads to low energy prices, and more energy production cutbacks in this round. Maybe it is not until the next round that a break apart in the currencies occurs.

      I am not sure that anything happens with the direct intent of stopping climate change.

      People will eat less meat if it is not affordable or not available in today’s quantities, for example. You might consider this as being in response to high prices. In the UK, it might be for lack of CO2. In the US, reduced meat production may be the result of swine flu spreading to US pigs, if that should happen. Swine flu recently reached the Dominican Republic, the first it has been encountered in the Western Hemisphere. https://www.avma.org/javma-news/2021-09-15/african-swine-fever-reaches-caribbean

      International travel won’t be available, for one excuse of another. Fear of COVID-19, lack of vaccination, or something else. No one will think about climate change.

      • Dennis M says:

        African Swine Fever Virus is not an influenza virus.

      • Sam says:

        I see the U.s invading an oil rich country and taking the oil this will give China cover To do what it wants. Probably wipe out New Zealand and Taylor Taiwan possibly Australia

  11. Fast Eddy says:

    I am beginning to think that NZ is a f789ing joke…. a mickey mouse backwater….

    Last month Frizell had criminal charges, which included two charges of male assaults female and another of common assault at a nightclub incident in May, against him dropped. He was denied a visa to enter Australia while the case was before the courts.

    Frizell attacked a man, and slapped and punched a woman during the late-night incident on May 9, then followed it up with an abusive social-media message to a friend of one of the victims.

    “F*** you b**** tell your friend to hide I’m gonna f*** everyone’s up f*** with the wrong guy,” (sic) it read.

    Frizell’s case was called before the Dunedin District Court on September 14 though his attendance was excused.

    Prosecutor Sergeant Chris George confirmed the Highlanders star had completed the terms of his diversion and the two charges of assaulting a woman and one of common assault were formally dismissed by Judge Peter Rollo.

    Because there was no formal guilty plea entered, there was never a summary of facts outlining the details of the violence tendered to the court.

    After Frizell’s first court hearing in July, he apologised outside court and said he would “now try to do everything I can to restore people’s faith in me”.

    “I already have put a plan in place with counsellors to help me address areas I want to work on.”

    The words were scant consolation to the mother of his female victim.

    She told the Otago Daily Times Frizell had “walked away with nothing more than a slap on the hand”.

    “[My daughter] has been disregarded and his full actions have been dismissed,” she said.

    “The man put fear into my girl and that’s been the worse thing to see.”

    https://www.odt.co.nz/sport/rugby/frizell-back-all-blacks-after-assault-charge-dropped

  12. Fast Eddy says:

    New Study of Covid Booster Shots Fans Debate Over Benefits

    23/09/2021 — “What I would predict will happen is that the immune response to that … lead to a phenomenon called “immune exhaustion,” Dr. Pepper said.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/15/health/covid-booster-shot-data.html

  13. Fast Eddy says:

    Starting 12:10 mark…

    “if you keep boosting the immune system it’s not going to respond like you want it to respond but also it is going to leave the recipient open to more severe disease because the immune system is exhausted’

    https://thehighwire.com/videos/booster-shot-in-the-dark/

    • If we keep boosting everyone every few months, there is a chance of “immune exhaustion” from being boosted too much. Some folks in Israel now asking questions regarding whether requiring booster after six months for green card is asking too much.

      Not enough testing has been done of any of these things. For example, there need to be sufficient test data to show that there is less risk of harm to a particular individual (in particular age group, without co-morbidities) from the vaccine than from the illness itself.

      I

    • rufustiresias999 says:

      Boost immune systems, boost economy (QE, Zero interest rate), boost oil extraction (fracking). Exhaustion in the end. Mother nature (maybe with the help of some friends) brought an other virus to make all the system slow down, down size (extraction, production, consumption, pollution, population ). It was not meant to to be boosted.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Cocaine and the Boosters… similarities…

        You haul some powder up your nose … you feel like you are the king of the world…. then it wears off so you need more…

        Booster makes you believe you are invincible… superior… intelligent… then it wears off….

        Difference… with cocaine if you don’t get more you eventually realize you are not the king and you go to sleep…

        With the Booster… you get a Mareks like illness… and you die.

        Going off on a tangent … let’s have a contest to choose the best funeral songs!

        I’m partial to this .. industrial setting … good lyrics… very appropriate to send off the enemy of the Earth:

        https://youtu.be/IaJ2UHiTa0o

  14. Yoshua says:

    So we are going to see blackouts around the world with this spike in energy prices?

    So it begins?

  15. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Concerns grow over Poland’s treatment of migrants stuck at Belarus border.

    “Concerns over Poland’s treatment of migrants stranded on its border with Belarus are mounting after Warsaw this week ignored domestic and international criticism to extend a state of emergency and sought to portray them as dangerous deviants.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/oct/01/poland-extends-state-of-emergency-migrants-belarus

    • Harry McGibbs says:

      “French police shoot migrants with rubber bullets in a bid to stop them coming to Britain…

      “The incident took place five miles from a squalid migrant camp where hundreds of people are awaiting a boat to Britain.”

      https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/french-police-shoot-migrants-dunkirk-b958449.html

    • Harry McGibbs says:

      “These are the cartels that capture, extort and torture migrants in 8 Mexican states.

      ““I thought Los Zetas were going to kill me,” said a migrant, as criminal groups have taken over migration routes and even interrogate children to extort migrant families.”

      https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/are-cartels-capture-extort-torture-migrants-8-mexican-states-rcna2454

    • Mirror on the wall says:

      One might suspect that those migrants may add some vitality to Europe – people willing to risk all for a better life for themselves and their families. The gene pool after collapse may well benefit from their contribution.

      Some go so far as to insist that human life is inherently ‘worthless’ and ‘awful’. And yet they just will not end themselves and do everyone a favour. They spend all their days, seemingly ineradicable, filling sick bowls with their personal subjectivity, and clinging on to the very end. Nothing serves their resentment better than to try to spoil it for everyone else, as if that is an act of power.

      If ‘Nature’ has a ‘plan’ in all of this, it might well be to draw a line under all of that. I suspect that is where we have got to.

    • Migrants seem to be a problem everywhere, when there are not enough goods and services (and jobs) to go around.

      • rufustiresias999 says:

        I was told there are lorry drivers jobs available in UK

        • Mirror on the wall says:

          Yes, but Boris does not want to offer viable visas to EU HGV drivers, as that would mean ‘uncontrolled immigration’ – even though his government still admits about 700,000 (about 350,000 net) legal migrants per year to the UK, increasingly from outside the EU.

          Go figure! It does not seem clear why visas for EU HGV drivers would be any more ‘uncontrolled’ than all the other visas.

    • ssincoski says:

      Belarus is employing same tactic that Turkey threatened UE with. Play nice or we start dumping refugees over the border. Perhaps Poland could let them in and put them on a bus to Germany or Denmark? My question: how are ‘migrants’ getting to Belarus from Afghanistan?

  16. Kowalainen says:

    Handwavium at ZH:

    (A libertarian free market fundamentalist going full tilt is always amusing.)

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/luongo-energy-subsidies-bitcoin-socialist-takeover-isnt
    “Energy isn’t scarce, it is abundant. Human energy, that is. Oil is finite. So is gas. So is coal. But until we properly price its costs, we’ll never figure out what’s the best replacement for them and at what point in time that change should occur.”

    … Fails to name one viable alternative. Just pure conjecture laced with hopiates.

    Yes, it is nothing wrong with a proper functioning market economy provided the currency is denoted in units of energy. “Wanna spend 10 Trillion joules from the future? This is how much depletion will occur in the proven reserves. Still interested?”

    The road to oblivion must be traced out in every decision. The bane of all civilizations is:

    Naive optimism, and
    MOAR! YAY!

    What could possibly go wr…?
    Never mind…

    🤣👍👍

    • MonkeyBusiness says:

      The man is a Bitcoin enthusiast. Their little Utopia can only be realized under the delusion of limitless energy.

      When resources have run out, we’ll all perform kumbaya and mine Bitcoins together.

  17. Harry McGibbs says:

    “UK homeowners who refuse to take part in a hydrogen energy trial will be forcibly cut off by gas network operators, under Government plans to test green heating alternatives.

    “Residents in one village will begin the pilot scheme by 2025 to help the Government assess whether hydrogen gas can be used as a low-carbon alternative for heating homes across the country…

    “A consultation, which ended this week, suggests the Government will seek powers to allow gas distribution networks to enter homes if their owners do not wish to take part in the trial, in order to safely switch them off from the gas grid.”

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/10/02/village-homeowners-may-have-gas-forcibly-cut-refuse-take-part/

    • This is worse than the vaccines!

      • TIm Groves says:

        To use a phrase that was popular with my parents’ generation, they are much of of a muchness. Coercing people to do A by threatening them with B. It’s the equivalent of managing people by using cattle prods.

    • D. Stevens says:

      Mixing hydrogen into gas lines sounds like putting ethanol into gasoline. It’s ‘greener’ but contains less energy and is likely to damage equipment. Think the idea is to use excess wind/solar to generate hydrogen and mix it into the natgas lines but will lead to more leaks and embrittlement of the lines and appliances. Found this article which discusses some of the technical aspects. https://cleantechnica.com/2020/12/14/can-hydrogen-replace-natural-gas-looking-at-the-numbers/ sounds like it ‘looks good’ for policy makers but is probably a netloss overall vs simply sticking with natural gas with conservation measures to use less. No one wants to ‘put on a sweater’ they want to have their cake and eat it too using so called green tech.

  18. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Robots Take Over Italy’s Vineyards as Wineries Struggle With Covid-19 Worker Shortages.

    “Italian winemakers have increasingly relied on migrant workers for the autumn harvest, but travel restrictions and soaring wage costs are pushing many to turn to machines.”

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/robots-take-over-italys-vineyards-as-wineries-struggle-with-covid-19-worker-shortages-11633260841

  19. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Kyrgyzstan turns off lights to prepare for crisis… There will be no escaping discontent this winter…

    “Shop windows will go dark, as will advertising hoardings. Routine inspections are being organized to ensure compliance. The blackout will affect streets too, plunging large sections of the capital, Bishkek, into obscurity.”

    https://eurasianet.org/kyrgyzstan-turns-off-lights-to-prepare-for-crisis

    • Harry McGibbs says:

      “According to India’s power ministry, the 135 thermal power plants of Asia’s third-largest economy had an average of just four days of coal stocks as of Friday…

      “The shortage now raises the prospect of imminent, large-scale power cuts, higher consumer electricity prices, or a hit to power generators’ bottom lines, in an economy where coal-fired plants now account for around 66 per cent of power generation.”

      https://www.ft.com/content/a3ca4eaa-9ecc-4a81-ad53-4902fae4bd61

  20. jodytishmack says:

    Potentially more bad news for natural gas supplies.

    This year we saw hurricane Ida upset oil supplies when it hit Louisiana early September. https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/hit-oil-output-ida-overshadows-demand-impact-says-goldman-2021-09-13/ Now Cyclone Sheehan is set to make a historic landfall in Oman. https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2021/10/shaheen-headed-for-historic-landfall-in-oman/
    and could have an significant impact on oil and gas supplies from Oman possibly even ships that that move through the Straight of Hormuz. https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=39932

    A previous storm, Cyclone Gonu hit the same area in 2007 and “caused 50 deaths and about $4.2 billion in damage (2007 USD) in Oman, where the cyclone was considered the nation’s worst natural disaster.” “The liquefied natural gas terminal in Sur, which handles 10 million tonnes of gas each year, was badly hit by the storm and could not be operated.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclone_Gonu The LNG terminal at Oman has been expanded since that disaster and now distributes even more gas piped to the coast. “The LNG plant is supplied from the gas gathering plant at Saih Rowl in the central Oman gas field complex through a 360 kilometres (224 mi) pipeline with a capacity of 12 billion cubic meters per annum of gas. It is operated by Petroleum Development Oman. The gas originates from the Barik, Saih Nihayda and Saih Rawl gas fields. https://www.gem.wiki/Oman_Qalhat_LNG_Terminal
    https://www.worldfinance.com/markets/energy/oman-lng-documentary-from-strength-to-strength-part-two

    “Around 40% of Oman LNG’s output goes to Japan and the biggest buyer is South Korea’s Kogas, which imports 4.06 million mt/year. In 2018, Oman LNG agreed to sell 1.1 million mt/year to BP over seven years.” https://www.spglobal.com/platts/en/market-insights/latest-news/natural-gas/072919-oman-to-ramp-up-lng-output-by-10-by-2021

    • Thanks for the information. Once someone contracts for a given amount of LNG, they assume that it will be available. Back in the day of plentiful supplies, even if the LNG weren’t available, it wouldn’t be a huge problem. The buyer could buy more LNG on the spot market, at not too different a price. Now, if there isn’t enough to go around, some country may get left out. Or they may need to bid an absurdly high price to get the LNG they want.

      • jodytishmack says:

        The oil embargo of the 1970’s was memorable. The price of oil hitting $140 a barrel, the fall of Lehman Brothers, and the Great Recession was memorable. But I don’t recall in those instances so many things going wrong so fast compared to today. Strangely, I see almost nothing in the US news, yet my sense is that this energy crisis is going to be worse than anything we’ve seen before. A cyclone knocking out more distribution could be the worst black swan event of all.

  21. Jon F says:

    Tim Watkins has an interesting quote in his most recent article regarding the trucker “shortage”:

    As Harry Holmes at The Grocer pointed out last week:

    “There are now more than 230,000 HGV licence holders under the age of 45 alone in the UK deciding not to work in the commercial haulage sector. For whatever reason, these people have spent around £3,000 acquiring an HGV license only to later opt out of driving commercial vehicles for a living.

    “To put that in perspective, there are more 30 to 34-year-olds that fall into this category than there were total EU drivers in the UK before the pandemic.”

    So, plenty of qualified drivers….

    Full article: https://consciousnessofsheep.co.uk/2021/09/29/a-crisis-of-affordability/

    • Mirror on the wall says:

      In an ideal world with plenty of cheap energy, all wages would be high and all companies would remain profitable. The UK relied heavily on workers from poorer countries in the EU, drivers and pickers, to keep the food industry profitable. It boosted net inputs to the domestic system.

      Higher wages in supply lines will add to inflation, which is already on the rise. Consumers will have less money to spend on other products, which will undermine other businesses. That in turn will further reduce consumers, and so on. It is a net loss to the system.

      https://www.thebusinessdesk.com/northwest/news/2085526-hgv-driver-crisis-puts-co-op-on-road-to-lower-profits

      > HGV driver crisis puts Co-op on road to lower profits

      The group generated revenues of £5.6bn in the 26 weeks to July 3, up 4% on 2019 but down 3% on last year, which was skewed by the impact of the first lockdown.

      It recorded an underlying operating loss of £15m, although its statutory profits were boosted by a one-off gain of £99m from a settlement owed to the Co-operative Bank.

      • The whole system isn’t making enough profits, so truck drivers aren’t paid enough to make driving worth their time. Without enough energy of the right kind (also, cheap to produce and profitable to sell), the whole system tends to fall apart.

        • Harry McGibbs says:

          “Lorry driver who’s ‘had enough’ on why UK has shortage of HGV drivers…

          “”There isn’t actually a shortage of drivers. What we have is a shortage of people who can drive, that are willing to drive any more. You might wonder why that is. I can’t answer for all drivers, but I can give you the reason I no longer drive…””

          https://www.staffordshire-live.co.uk/news/news-opinion/lorry-driver-uk-shortage-hgv-5965813

        • Hubbs says:

          Ironic how my first post on OFW was about the dependence on truck drivers, and I mistook you for having published the book “When the Trucks Stop Running.”
          Well, here we are. But I realize the causes are much more complicated than I had originally thought. It’s not just about fuel costs and availability of fuel. When truvcks break down, you can’t parts. No new tires or pressure hoses. Now have to go to stripping parts off of old trucks- Cuba style.

  22. Yoshua says:

    China has gone from over 10,000 coal mines to 4,700 mines, while trying to maintain production at a stable high level.

    https://www.mining.com/web/china-to-add-110-million-tonnes-of-coal-production-capacity-in-h2-2021/

    • Thanks! This article is from July, I notice. It talks about high air conditioning usage reducing coal supplies.

      I think the issue with the coal fields is that most of small ones are old, depleted ones that are high cost and also have poor records of injuries. New mines are bigger and more modern, but they tend to be quite a distance from where the coal is to be used. A work around, of course, is to generate electricity near where it is extracted, and then depend on long transmission lines. But these long transmission lines have problems, also. Whatever method is used, the newer mines are also high cost, when either transport by train or truck, or by transmission lines, is used. High cost electricity is a problem for users.

  23. Fast Eddy says:

    Prepping the Canadian CovIDIOTS for the Boosters! https://globalnews.ca/news/8225893/covid-19-booster-shot/

    Notice the formula? Only needed by the at risk and front line health care folks…

    Guaranteed – every single person will be invited… and will lose the passport if they decline

    https://thehighwire.com/videos/booster-shot-in-the-dark/

  24. Fast Eddy says:

    Activists chanting ‘USA’ & ‘f**k Joe Biden’ storm vaccinated-only food court in Staten Island, NY in protest against mandates

    https://www.rt.com/usa/535850-vaccine-mandate-protest-mall/

    • Rodster says:

      This is how things get out of hand as i’ve said many times. It’s always baby steps and the anger grows and grows until there is a flashpoint. In the UK, protests started with 50-100 and now anti covid protests and rallies are in the hundreds of thousands.

      As the backlash grows all you need is a match to set things off and it’s coming.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        I am doubtful of that… I witnessed hundreds of thousands and at times over 1M people on the streets in Hong Kong… many of them were violent (throwing bricks… petrol bombs… etc)….

        They achieved nothing.

        If they got too violent — they got shot…. a single bullet is a very convincing deterrent.

        Governments understand what failure of the CEP means — they will do whatever it takes to ensure 8B humans are calmly marched into the ovens.

        I have been thinking about what the minions of the Elders have been telling key people to get them onside with this … perhaps they tell them only part of the story … that the GFC was the warmup… that we are up against the wall and require a financial reset… it’s going to be messy and we need to keep control at all costs…. if we lose control Humpty falls off the wall.

  25. Fast Eddy says:

    Fauci said a COVID-19 vaccine will be available to young children in the fall

    https://news.yahoo.com/fauci-said-covid-19-vaccine-172357591.html

    • Rodster says:

      This guy will one day get what’s coming to him. He is the new Josef Mengele.

      • Bei Dawei says:

        Eddy? Naw, he’s more like Lord Haw-Haw.

      • MonkeyBusiness says:

        No he will not. He’s so old, he’ll one day pass away and possibly be buried in Arlington.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Fauci is only doing … what needs to be done.

          The humans may vilify him… (they don’t want the party to stop…) but the tortured and enslaved animals of the world… consider him a hero

      • Xabier says:

        Dr Mengele never did: he died peacefully in comfort as far as I know.

        We should be just as concerned about the next generation of ‘global leaders’ , for whom these vile old reptiles are preparing the ground…….

        • MonkeyBusiness says:

          Well. Mengele supposedly suffered a stroke while swimming and drowned. But yeah, no justice for his victims while he was alive.

          I expect there will be monuments erected to honor Fauci and streets will be named after him. Hail the Good Doctor!!!

        • Jarle says:

          “Dr Mengele never did: he died peacefully in comfort as far as I know.”

          These people never get what they deserve – a rather clear sign that at least there are no just god(s).

  26. Fast Eddy says:

    Deaths among Teenagers have increased by 47% in the UK since they started getting the Covid-19 Vaccine according to official ONS data

    https://www.headsupster.com/forumthread?shortId=162

  27. Jon F says:

    It certainly feels like there’s madness in the air.

    Has anyone read The Testosterone Hypothesis (2015) by Roy Barzilai?

    Here’s a short excerpt:

    “It is the assertion of The Testosterone Hypothesis that this endocrine crisis affects the worldview of a culture: declining testosterone, which links to depleted serotonin and diminished dopamine, creates a mindset more prone to passivity and fear and violence. This weakened psychological vitality makes entire populations susceptible to group-think, to a herd mentality, and to manipulation by controlling forces.
    Though empathy is an important quality in humans, if the empathizing mind is not balanced by the systemizing mind, the drive for individual excellence in society is muted, at times even entirely squelched. Therefore, looking back through history, it can be postulated that when cultures are suppressed by tyrants – including the tyranny of the crowd – when creativity and prosperity are supplanted by fear and reserve and paucity, it is very likely that this is the effect of declined testosterone levels.”

    Basically, societal mood is a function of societal hormone levels. It probably can’t be proven but it make sense in some way.

    • Bobby says:

      Very good points regarding testosterone…..Would you like some more soy with that, or can you find many lines of food without that pesky additive (332) included.?..think about it. Traditional Asian cultures consumed fermented soy ‘ ‘as a condiment’, in the western diet, it is subtlety ambiguous.. that’ll put a dent in your six pack, not just a male issue either, testosterone is essential for our female biology too

      • Jon F says:

        I’m sure we’ve all read the articles talking about endocrine disruptors and declining sperm counts in Western men etc.

        In the book, Roy posits that solar cycles are the number one influencer of testosterone levels. If he’s right about this, and we are entering a Grand Solar Minimum, then the derangement is set to continue…

        • Booby says:

          It is a very Interesting theory to consider, but also funny too…only folks living near the equator will have any La-boom,boom and only around midday, while TROTW suffer solar minimum limp pandemic disinterest syndrome.
          The universe had a long term plan for 8 billion fossil fuel audacity monkey after all. No xxx when the sun don’t shine

          • Kowalainen says:

            That is pure nonsense. I’m from north of the Arctic Circle. Sunshine and vitamin D? What is that? The junk still operates.

            As for using the gear for other purposes than entertainment?

            HAHAHAHAHAH!!!!

            Hell no.

            GLHF with your progeny. I’m expecting they’ll be experiencing the seven stages of grief.

            I’m just too kind for that kind of insanity.

            🤣👍👍

        • Kowalainen says:

          Re: Derangement.

          Am I the only one missing the tragicomedy of TDS?

          Or perhaps having Joe Rogan at the podium for the shits and giggles? Imagine Joe and Elon sharing a blunt in public together with Graham Hancock. How about Jim Carrey? Oh yes, that would have been great. Zero shits given.

          Let’s get this cognitive dissonance shit show cracking at 11.

          I want the MOARons entertaining me one more period before we slap IC on the garbage heap of history for this time around in the wheel of idiocy.

          MOAR! YAY!

          🤣👍👍

    • Fast Eddy says:

      My testosterone levels are spiking … I am wanting to hunt down CovIDIOTS and club them.

    • drb says:

      Yes, elites have always had a strong interest in controlling the diet (and through it, the mood) of their subjects. People being encouraged or forced to eat wheat goes back to the Assyrians, and Romans were quite tough on those at the margins of the Empire who refused to switch to wheat. Like, going in there a crucify a few. Assyrians knew that subjects that are wheat were easier to control. Romans also knew that the Barbarians giving them the most trouble were those eating milk and meat.

      Today the re are other tools for population control, including sugar and vegetable oils. Together, grains, sugar and seed oils, create a sickly, spiritually poor population which is afraid of societal changes, pychologically dependent on Big Pharma and is easily manipulated through the media. You are what you eat.

      • Seideman says:

        TRUTH! Eat meat, both cooked and raw! As much as your body wants. Organs, blooood everything. I was with the samburu in kenya and got blood mixed with milk from their cows! Power!!!! Vegans become dull and weak, thats what the PTB wants. Eat greens for the climate, become a weak slave 😀

        • geno mir says:

          Vegetarian and vegan diets are extremely poor on vitamins from group B. B group vitamins are coenzymes for your nervous system (central and peripheral) and are essentials for the maintenance and functioning of the nervous system. People with vegeterian/vegan diet suffers from chronic vit B (mainly 1,2,6 and 12) defficiency for which the anatomical basis is demyelination/inflmation, axon degeneration and neuronal apoptosis. And those are just some of the direct effects on the nervous system. Vit B defficiencies cause complex and very wide damage to all the vital body systems – hemopoetic, metabolic, imunne.

        • Jarle says:

          Hey wise guy, what’s it like living with a black or white brain?

          • Kowalainen says:

            I was going full tilt cracking out some ~40km/day on my goddamned bicycle on a plant based diet.

            FOR THREE YEARS.

            That’s iron clad observation that a plant based diet can supply enough nutrients. And my broad at the time didn’t complain when I whipped out the forged junk.

            ‘Nuff said carnivore ‘diet’ and blue pill chomping cholesterol laden “dysfunctional” fatsos.

            🤣👍👍

      • I think that fact that wheat is typically ground and rice is not makes a big difference. The digestive system is set up for fairly hard-to-digest food. Wheat flour and sugar tend to spike insulin levels.

        • drb says:

          I think it is the gluten peptides acting as opiates, and giving a mild buzz. But I also agree with Seideman above, the PTB want weak people under them, and whether it is an irritated gut from gluten and other glycoproteins, or insulin resistance, or the psychological problems associated with wheat, that is the type of people they want under. Here in Russia, though, a 0.5 kg T-bone steak costs 3 euros, so my food life is currently simple and rich.

          • Azure Kingfisher says:

            Industrial civilization was able to blast off with the widespread use of grains. That’s the other factor: the people in charge could store grain easily, and both feed and grow their worker populations easily and cheaply. Try getting to our present level of population and industrial civilization without grains.
            Now, there’s no way they could sustain the current global population on organic vegetables, nuts and grass fed beef – not enough of the good stuff to go around.
            While the shortages increase, our blessed technocratic overlords are working on a plan to save us all with patented synthetic protein options.

            • drb says:

              I agree on all counts. I am not trying to proselytize nor I ignore the effect of grains on civilization. Russia certainly can feed its populace a carnivore diet, and have some left to export. I advise my close friends and family, based on the food we evolved on, and understand that there is further degradation in the food supply of the West, which is playing and will play a role in the depopulation that is starting.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Feed the cattle garbage and put them in bad schools… entertain them with tee vee sports and other mindless rubbish….. and they are much more easily to control and happy!!! .. makes sense.

        https://res.cloudinary.com/fleetnation/image/private/c_fill,g_center,h_640,w_640/v1501790300/drdj83t7qjxvf9kp3yu3.jpg

        The more capable ones get better schooling and tend to be healthier… these are the ones that form the Minion Class…. reward them with fat salaries and prestige… they are VERY easy to control….

        https://www.ineteconomics.org/uploads/featured/rich-students-ivy-league.jpg

        Isn’t it amusing that people think we need to fix inner city education and offer better opportunities for everyone?

        That’s NEVER going to happen because it does not need to happen – there is zero benefit.

        Think about sports… the best children are identified early… and they get the budgets and the coaches and the training facilities… the others get someone’s father coaching them….

        That is how you build elite level athletes… that can compete on the world stage.

        It is the same thing with education ….

    • geno mir says:

      But soy stocks and features pays very good, right

  28. Fast Eddy says:

    If you want to understand the ‘mind’ of a CovIDIOT… watch this documentary … https://www.npr.org/2019/03/05/699995484/michael-jackson-a-quarter-century-of-sexual-abuse-allegations

    Then browse the internet and you will find loads of MOREONS who will continue to refuse to accept Jackson diddled young boys…

    Then watch American Moon and browse OFW and you will find loads of MOREONS who still think we have been to the moon.

  29. CTG says:

    Excerpts :

    Notice that Dr. Campbell does not mention a single person who had any toxicity from those ten 12 mg pills of Ivermectin – in the entire state of over 200 million. Not one poisoning was reported. No Indian poison control articles or telephone calls were reported. Out of millions of distributed medicine kits, each containing 120 mg of Ivermectin, not one person in Uttar Pradesh was reported to have had a problem with the drug.

    Best of all …. this is wHO sponsored. WTF?

    • Rodster says:

      Remember, Ivermectin is low cost competition to Big Pharma who stands to gain 10’s of billions of dollars a year by peddling their experimental drug i.e. covid vaccines. Bill Gates stands to lose on his investments if people are not getting The Jab. So that could explain the WTF head scratcher.

      • Azure Kingfisher says:

        “Under section 564 of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (FD&C Act), when the Secretary of HHS declares that an emergency use authorization is appropriate, FDA may authorize unapproved medical products or unapproved uses of approved medical products to be used in an emergency to diagnose, treat, or prevent serious or life-threatening diseases or conditions caused by CBRN threat agents when certain criteria are met, including there are no adequate, approved, and available alternatives.”

        https://www.fda.gov/emergency-preparedness-and-response/mcm-legal-regulatory-and-policy-framework/emergency-use-authorization#prepact

        “Vaccine” manufacturers couldn’t have received their EUAs without everyone burying their heads in the sand and ignoring treatment options like Ivermectin.

        At this point, I don’t see how these “vaccines” can be said to have any legitimacy at all. They never deserved EUA status, which they continue to maintain fraudulently, and they never should’ve been foisted on the public.

        • Lidia17 says:

          There is also a history of such deception.

          For example, Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg related in the following video how (at least in the EU.. I have not checked the US or elsewhere) they changed the definition of “gene therapy” such that it *not* include anything used as a vaccine, circumventing all sorts of rules which would otherwise more closely monitor genome-altering or gene-based substances as opposed to more ordinary chemical compounds.

          https://www.globalresearch.ca/video-german-epidemiologist-dr-wolfgang-wodarg-discusses-frauds-behind-declaring-h1n1-covid-pandemics/5751084

          They have gotten away with all sorts of “legalized” fraud of this nature.

          • Xabier says:

            Yes, Lidia and Azure, that’s how it is.

            I believe it exempts them from having to investigate possible effects on fertility, which would be a theoretical risk with gene therapies.

            Lie upon lie, upon lie.

            deception, and fraud.

            And murder.

  30. CTG says:

    For those who are still unconvinced that you have been lied to.

    India’s Ivermectin Blackout: The Secret Revealed

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/indias-ivermectin-blackout-secret-revealed

    Please read. There is a chart comparing KERALA and UTTAR PRADESH. Most revealing. Just that chart says it all. If anyone does not believe that chart, then that guys seriously a “….”

    • The story is definitely worth reading.

      The news blackout about ivermectin is incredible.

      According to the story, telling about the test of ivermectin and a few other cheap drugs in Uttar Pradesh,

      The Rapid Response Teams derive support from the United States CDC under the umbrella of the WHO. This fact further validates the Uttar Pradesh test and treat program and solidifies this as a joint effort by the WHO and CDC.

      Perhaps the most telling portion of the WHO article was the last sentence, “WHO will also support the Uttar Pradesh government on the compilation of the final reports.”

      None have yet been published.

      All of this is very frustrating. John Campbell, in his video series, has reported on the success of the experiment, but we don’t hear WHO or the CDC saying anything. He reports that there have been no reports of calls to poison control centers, with the use of these 12 milligram ivermectin pills used in the study.

      This is a link to one of the charts:

      https://cms.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/bfmC92D.jpg

      • Azure Kingfisher says:

        “Each home kit contained the following: Paracetamol tablets [tylenol], Vitamin C, Multivitamin, Zinc, Vitamin D3, Ivermectin 12 mg [quantity #10 tablets], Doxycycline 100 mg [quantity #10 tablets]. Other non-medication components included face masks, sanitizer, gloves and alcohol wipes, a digital thermometer, and a pulse oximeter.

        “Campbell reports that the exciting things in the kit that grabbed his attention were: Zinc, Vitamin D3, Ivermectin, and secondary antibiotic treatment. ‘Interesting, that’s what the government decided to give.’”

        Wow.

        • Xabier says:

          According to the nice, well-informed, Indian doctor I spoke to last week – who has relations practising medicine in both the US and India – there is quite a struggle going on in India.

          Physicians, as elsewhere if allowed to, have experimented and come up with the very effective home treatment ivermectin-based pack, but can still get over-ruled by the corrupt health bureaucracy, both state and national, and local politicians, being then forced to vaccinate, discontinuing the packs.

          The WHO plays a highly ambiguous role: there are some honest people in it, but it always has to have an eye on the wishes of the main funders….

          I have only met people at the top of the WHO, and I thought them typical money-oriented careerists.

          Notably, they had NO significant medical qualifications. They are very well paid, and are not likely to bite the hand that feeds them.

          ‘Public health policy’ is probably one of the most bogus degrees around, and highly political.

          And how about mere anthropologists running such organisations?

          We will see that, despite the evidence from India, the policy of universal injection will go ahead, and also the medically-useless vaccine passports.

          This will finally prove what the real plan is, will it not?

          Nothing, but nothing, to do with public health and ‘returning to freedom’.

    • Aravind says:

      Being from Kerala, what I find truly astounding is the media silence about such things in this “God’s Own Country” (as this place has been touted for a quarter of a century by the tourism industry). It is supposedly a free media here (and sometimes free-for-all too) but they are united in keeping mum about inconvenient truths.

      A couple of weeks ago, I had specifically asked a school buddy of mine, who is now a doctor in the govt. service here, about Uttar Pradesh’s use of Ivermectin and why we were not practising that. His answers were vague and evasive. Kerala prides itself on being comparable to western Europe on the Human Development Index and the people here generally view those in north India rather condescendingly. Might be a case of “pride goes before a fall”. But I very much doubt whether the common folk here would be interested in getting to the truth of the matter. Blind trust in the government despite (or is it because of?) being the most literate state in India.

      • Xabier says:

        Thank you for another view from India.

        Curiously, blind trust often goes hand in hand with higher literacy.

        The most educated people I know rushed to get vaccinated as soon as possible.

        When I asked why, they revealed no reasoning, but only the influence of what they had read in the MSM, which had led them by the nose.

  31. Mirror on the wall says:

    Lidia, your comment chimes with my present reading. Humans have a deep tendency to fabricate the world in a fashion that ‘suits’ them. It is an extremely useful tendency in so far as it allows them to flourish. Humans are not necessarily predisposed, or mentally equipped, to see the world as it is – or to cope with seeing it as it is.

    In that sense, deception, even self-deception can be more beneficial, and more motivational, to the species than perception – in so far as that is the evolutionary strategy that the species has taken. If so, then it is perhaps no surprise that persons, and even the species sometimes leads itself down some blind alleys.

    If the ‘finite world’ perspective is correct, which seems likely, then it is likely of very limited benefit to anyone to actually see it – when nothing can be done about it anyway.

    Those who do see it may be the exceptions, and they may not generally be best constituted for life, or given to flourish as much as those (eg. Bezos) who are differently constituted. The balance that the species has taken seems to rest mainly on a limited perception.

    Nietzsche:

    > The apparent world is not counted as a “valuable” world; appearance is supposed to constitute an objection to supreme value. Only a “true” world can be valuable in itself-

    Prejudice of prejudices! Firstly, it would be possible that the true constitution of things was so hostile to the presuppositions of life, so opposed to them, that we needed appearance in order to be able to live – After all, this is the case in so many situations; e.g., in marriage.

    Our empirical world would be determined by the instincts of self-preservation even as regards the limits of its knowledge: we would regard as true, good, valuable that which serves the preservation of the species.

    …. Assuming the true world, it could still be a world less valuable for us; precisely the quantum of illusion might be of a higher rank on account of its value for our preservation. (Unless appearance as such were grounds for condemnation?) – TWTP 583

    • Kowalainen says:

      The only self-preservation worth anything is that of your logos. The rest is just flimsy documents of an era. Check out the fossil records and ruins of the past for such artifacts.

      Then god said:

      Let there be MOAR

      Bezos, Gates, Schwab, WEF, crony club et. al with offspring. I’m sure you’ll appreciate some single mindedness and absurd elitism. I surely will. And why not topping it off with Orange Man Bad back on the throne.

      It will be glorious.
      I can’t wait for getting my ass in the ‘unvaxxed’ detention camps.

      I guess “we” have a “winners” club.
      Hunky dory all the way to oblivion.

      🤣👍👍

      • Mirror on the wall says:

        I have asked you before not to keep stalking me. If you have something of your own to say then say it in the open space, do not follow me around responding to all my posts.

  32. Fast Eddy says:

    The jabbering MOREONS will be high-fiving each other smug in their decision to inject believing that this portends a return to normal travel ‘in February!!!’

    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/unvaccinated-travellers-banned-international-air-nz-flights

    They will be stampeding online and booking flights to exotic destinations just in time for autumn…. and winter….

    Of course they will be profoundly disappointed if the world collapses into Mareks before they get to board the plane… if Mareks has not come by that time they will despair over the fact that the two week quarantine and impossible to book hotels remain that way … even though they are double triple and maybe quadruple jabbed.

    You see — this is the level of MOREON a CovIDIOT is… if the government intended to open the world to them… the government would have already done so — if you have your jabs … you can leave and return without quarantine.

    But nope. Hasn’t happened. Won’t happen.

    MOREONS aren’t MOREONS for nothing. Duuummmmb stump-headed… negative IQ…. Pea-Brained… Idi iots.

    And there are nearly 8B of them!

    3 cheers for extinction!!!

    • Rodster says:

      “3 cheers for extinction!!!”

      Is that code for Norm, Dunce and Mike?

    • Bobby says:

      …..its all fun and games until the av_ gas runs out.
      Ironic if TPTB wished to conserve fossil fuel as pending shortages loom, that only the vaccinated should be the ‘privileged’ allowed to waste them…and perhaps spread covid globally to the next ctrl level +++ Ever watch aeroplane flying high? It’s a real comedy

  33. Fast Eddy says:

    On the bright side… international travel is unlikely to be a high priority for anyone as the CEP accelerates…

  34. Fast Eddy says:

    Hmmm… the prison gates will soon slam shut on Fast Eddy….

    https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/unvaccinated-travellers-banned-international-air-nz-flights

    • People want to “feel safe,” even if vaccinations have nothing to do with “being safe.”

      • Mike Roberts says:

        Luckily, the vaccinations do offer some safety (as the data show).

        • Fast Eddy says:

          No they make you more susceptible from getting covid and ending up in the hospital

          Go ahead… take your boosters mike

        • Lidia17 says:

          Riiiight.

          https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1443431536641015810.html

          I think Mike is jealous of Gladys’ big payout, so he’s doing overtime this week.

          • Azure Kingfisher says:

            It’s simply a matter of time, and much hindsight, before Mike recognizes that he’s on the wrong side of history. He’ll eventually come around, though he may never publicly admit it.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            Showing this to mike will be no different than showing it to a barnyard animal… or a dog…

            Let me try… dog … come… hold still… screen to face… dog looks at me … dog wags tail…

          • Mike Roberts says:

            Azure, of course I’d admit it, if I was wrong. But if I’m wrong then all the data we have are wrong. In which case, how did you form a different conclusion?

            • Azure Kingfisher says:

              The data has been compromised, Mike.

              PCR testing is an unreliable method of diagnosis. It was never intended to be used as a diagnostic tool to detect viruses.
              Cycle threshold (Ct) rates can be increased or decreased, depending on the desired effect. Before the injections were available = high Ct rates; after the injections were available = lower Ct rates.

              An “official” COVID-19 “case” does not equate with actual illness:

              “NOTE: A surveillance case definition is a set of uniform criteria used to define a disease for public health surveillance. Surveillance case definitions enable public health officials to classify and count cases consistently across reporting jurisdictions. Surveillance case definitions are not intended to be used by healthcare providers for making a clinical diagnosis or determining how to meet an individual patient’s health needs.”

              https://ndc.services.cdc.gov/case-definitions/coronavirus-disease-2019-2021/

              Therefore, a distinction must be made between a “casedemic” and a genuine pandemic with real illness and death.

              The control groups for the first-generation injections were allowed to receive injections due to fear over their health and safety during the “pandemic.” Thus, the ongoing clinical trials have been effectively ruined.

              The CDC changed its definition of the word “vaccine.”

              The WHO changed its definition of the term “herd immunity.”

              I’m sure others can chime in with additional examples of how the data has been compromised.

              In your quest to “follow the Science,” or “follow the data,” you are dutifully observing a never-ending shell game.

              You are missing the forest for the trees.

              I’ve formed a different conclusion, a different stance toward the “vaccines,” because I can clearly see that we are being lied to and manipulated on a daily basis.

              In my opinion, the latest and greatest manipulation to be revealed is the story CTG posted:

              India’s Ivermectin Blackout: The Secret Revealed

              https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/indias-ivermectin-blackout-secret-revealed

              You may not be interested in the question I’m interested in:
              Why was the western world subjected to rushed-to-market gene therapy injections while India’s most populous state instead received house calls from people bearing medicinal gift baskets filled with affordable treatment options?

              “The WHO noted, ‘Government teams are moving across 97,941 villages in 75 districts over five days in this activity which began May 5 in India’s most populous state with a population of 230 million.’

              “The Rapid Response Teams derive support from the United States CDC under the umbrella of the WHO. This fact further validates the Uttar Pradesh test and treat program and solidifies this as a joint effort by the WHO and CDC.

              “Perhaps the most telling portion of the WHO article was the last sentence, ‘WHO will also support the Uttar Pradesh government on the compilation of the final reports.’”

              Ultimately, it really is a question of faith. You accept on faith that the data you are being shown hasn’t been manipulated or falsified. You haven’t withdrawn your faith from the CDC, or any other mainstream information source you cite on Our Finite World. You are not alone there, Mike. You are in very good company; you are aligned with the majority! There is safety in numbers, right?

              The only problem is that this is a situation in which the majority is on the wrong track. Call it mass psychosis, call it the decline of industrial civilization, call it New World Order conspiracy, call it the Compassionate Extinction Plan (CEP), call it whatever you like; whether the disastrous consequences of this global injection scheme will be the result of pre-planning conspirators or rushed, panicked scientists blindly charging into the new frontier of mRNA gene therapy, in the end the human species is going to pay for it.

              How do I know for sure? I don’t. But this global experiment requires everyone’s faith and participation. Do you really have faith in this injection program? Despite all the manipulations, lies, contortions, and redefinitions that were required to roll out these “vaccines” under Emergency Use Authorization? Despite all that was required to brush aside the affordable, available treatment options that have been used in India in lieu of “vaccines?” Do you really have faith that the CDC, the WHO, Moderna, Pfizer, Johnson & Johnson, and AstraZeneca have your health and best interests at heart?

              It’s a gamble, Mike, no matter how you look at it. Risk assessment is required of us all. I’m taking the gamble that my health will be significantly better without these “vaccines.” I place my faith in my immune system as well as my largely clean diet and active lifestyle to keep me safe and healthy rather than outsourcing my bodily health to for-profit pharmaceutical companies offering rushed-to-market experimental gene therapy concoctions with no long-term safety data.
              I place my faith in my ability to know my own body, to respect its needs, and to nourish it rather than poison it. I also take this as my responsibility – it is my body, after all. It’s not your body, or Gail’s body, or my doctor’s body—it’s mine.
              This is where the “vaccine” manufacturers get to have their cake and eat it to: they rely on media and government to influence you into thinking that you need to outsource your bodily health to them and yet, should you suffer any ill effects from their injections, they will cite that you made an informed decision to take their injections and that your bodily damage is not their responsibility but yours.

              Imagine the car mechanic that aggressively markets to people to bring their cars in for repair, has paid for internet censorship to limit people’s accessibility to information regarding cheaper, simpler repair options, has paid for support in the form of coercive force from government, but insists that any damages incurred by his work are solely the responsibility of the car owner. The car owner cannot sue the mechanic for the damages and the auto insurance company will not cover the damages.
              The car owner is left with, “Well, it’s your car, your responsibility. You chose to bring your car in to the mechanic and you understood his terms of service.”
              Imagine if people were more respectful of their cars; imagine if they understood basic maintenance and what NOT to do to reduce the life and functionality of their cars; imagine if they accepted and owned their responsibilities instead of outsourcing them? There would be fewer trips to the mechanic, perhaps only genuine emergencies that are few and far between.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              You may as well try debating with your dog…. mike is operating on the level of a dog….

              The thing is…

              8B people were told we should get the injection because if enough of us did — we would get herd immunity…. that we could not contract or pass covid.

              Clearly that was a LIE. Not a mistake. A LIE.

              The purpose of the LIE was obviously to convince 8B to take the injection.

              If they LIE about that … assume they are LYING about EVERYTHING Covid-related.

              It really is… that simple.

              Except for a dog… or a MOREON.

            • Tim Groves says:

              Mike, you are clearly in the majority on the vaccine issue, From personal experience, I have found that about 90% of my acquaintances share your opinion. Most have them have been jabbed by now, and I would never knowingly try to tell them they were wrong to have done so.

              I am certain that the vaccines are pathogenic, that they do nobody any good and that they harm everyone who accepts them. I’ve seen the needle and the damage done, a little part of it in every one… But anyone who has taken a jab is committed to whatever protection and whatever harm the jab brings them. They can’t get unjabbed. They will just have to live with it.

              So I won’t be sharing any of the excellent videos featuring Mike Yeadon, Geert Vanden Bossche, Luc Montagnier, Byram Brindle, Robert Malone, or any of the other acknowledged experts who have warned us not to take these gene therapy shots.

              And I certainly won’t be sending them Carrie Madej’s video showing the tiny spider-like moving things that apparently self-assemble inside the Moderna shot liquid when it gets up to room temperature. That would be just too distressing. They have sleepwalked their way into this nightmarish situation. I am going to let them keep dreaming peacefully for as long as they are able. That’s the least I can do for them.

        • Student says:

          If you don’t die, you don’t have severe adverse event, you might be protected on a percentage from 20 to 90 (?), but for less than 6 months. Then you will probably create new variants and you’ll surely help to spread the disease.
          But Big Pharma also kindly requests you to let them know if you will have a negative impact on the medium and long term, as they simply don’t know yet.
          Just to be clear, this last point will be only to decide to avoid that negative effect or increase it, according to next strategies.

  35. MM says:

    Actually I think the global economy is doing quite well.
    Since the start of renewable energy, everybody involved in aquireing energy realized that there is some sort of an intermittency problem with it. Managers of energy dependent companies read the news and they see proposals of battery storage or H2 and they understood that these will not be vialble. So they adapted their supply chains for intermittency, Of course not all was forseen in adcance but if your company adopts an intermittency business model, you will be able to hanlde what ever other problem occurs.
    People complaining about intermittency problems now simply are entities not having modified their mode of existence to the intermittency paradigm. From an evolutionary perspective ist is just plain out sorry that they must die to give room for mor agile companies.
    You may consider the renewable story being pushed by climate change or by FF shortage. It simply does not matter at all. If you need a constant stream of input energy NOW, you are about to die.There was plenty of time to adopt and some companies adopted and they will do well for a very long time.
    Managers manage.So manage!
    Investors invest. So enjoy the volatility!

    • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

      “Actually I think the global economy is doing quite well.”

      it is. You won’t get much agreement here, but I’ll be one.

      though the volatility is increasing, and it’s a volatility on the edge of a cliff.

      the pattern continues, where many peripheral countries are falling further into collapse, and it’s creeping slowly into the core.

      but I repeat myself.

      most all of us have sailed easily into Q4 (notice that it is indeed Q4 yes?), and though there are signs of rougher waters ahead, it should be acknowledged that what is ahead is not yet here.

      most store shelves I’ve seen lately are somewhat full, almost always economic change comes slowly, this 2021 year looks like it will hold up to its end.

      2022 might be awful, but it’s not 2022 yet.

      blahblahblahAU tonight, people.

      • Sam says:

        So we have 3 months of good life ahead of us?😊 I was thinking we had until 2023 before the real pain starts to set in.

  36. Student says:

    Please find here some video of the protest held today in Milan against the covid segregation pass.
    Mainstream media is trying to forget the subject.

    https://t.me/RossellaFidanza/14703

    https://t.me/giuseppemasala/6477

    https://t.me/RossellaFidanza/14705

    • Fast Eddy says:

      I’m afraid that anything short of burning the city to the ground… is bound to fail.

      • Artleads says:

        One of the more clarifying memes/tropes/whatever to be witnessed on OFW.

      • JMS says:

        One thing that has surprised me whenever i see footage of anti lockdown protests anywhere is the almost party-like air they seem to have, with people waving placards and smiles (I’ve even seen protesters pushing baby carriages!).
        But if people want to instill some doubt in their local executors of the techno-fascist degrowth plan, they would have to be furiously willing to give everything, including their own lives, to stop it. Which of course, and for all sorts of reasons, will never happen. We can never forget this historical scene: herds of je.ws placidly and confidently entering the trains that were going to take them to the slaughterhouse. I would bet that many of them believed that their stay in the countryside would be good for their health. Such is the self-deception power of human mind. Ultimately, people NEED the comfort of believing in leaders and easy way outs

        • Fast Eddy says:

          The Elders are laughing at these kumbaya snowflakes… they think they’ll march they way around this .. some id iots think they will through litigation hahahahahahaha….

    • Fast Eddy says:

      The interesting thing is that the CDC has admitted that the vaccines do not stop the spread of infection ….

      And STILL the CovIDIOTS support the vaccine passports.

      Is this proof that IQ can be a negative number? I think so….

      • Student says:

        I agree with both sentences unfortunately

      • Mike Roberts says:

        There is a difference between stopping the spread and reducing it. The CDC actually says, “COVID 19-vaccines are effective at preventing severe illness from COVID-19 and limiting the spread of the virus that causes it.”

        https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety.html

        • I am afraid the vaccine does nothing at all to reduce the spread of the virus that causes it, especially once the virus starts mutating away from its original form. It leads to a lot of “COVID-19 Marys” who don’t realize that they have the illness and go around spreading it. This works in the wrong direction.

          The vaccines work in the direction of reducing the severity of the illness for the particular people who took the vaccine. But, especially when the vaccines are being given when the illness is going around, they work in the direction of encouraging the virus to mutate away from the direction that the antibodies produced by the action of the vaccine can handle.

          The vaccines tell the immune system to kill off something that is fairly different from the current version of the virus going around. Depending on how bad a “miss” it is, the immune system makes the disease less severe, or it does nothing at all. The virus versions that are farthest away from the original are the ones least affected, and thus allowed to become strong variant strains. This encourages the development of strong variants that are outside of the range that the immunity provided by the vaccine can kill. It becomes necessary to keep developing new vaccines, focused in new directions. The virus also starts hitting younger people, somehow trying to find additional people (or animals) to infect.

          If nothing else, this all starts a treadmill of more and more vaccines, each with side effects. The new variants affect younger and younger people, making it difficult to keep up the vaccination plan. If people had simply been given vitamin D, they likely wouldn’t have gotten the illness, or would have gotten light cases. There would not be the mutation pressure. And they would not be getting all of the harmful effects of the vaccine, both early and (possibly) later.

          • Mike Roberts says:

            How would you explain the fact that, where the vaccination status of cases is known, the majority of cases (often the vast majority of cases, as in NZ) are of unvaccinated? This is despite much surveillance testing (where you don’t have to be symptomatic to get tested).

            I realise that I’m not a virus expert, nor are you, but the figures don’t appear to support your hypothesis.

            To support your hypothesis, the vaccine would have to have an extremely high efficacy for preventing any symptoms. In which case, it is probably doing a good job of ensuring health services don’t get overwhelmed and giving people back their sense of having their freedoms.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Alert – Delete the Above Comment without Reading

            • Bobby says:

              FYI In NZ the people included in the unvaccinated category include those who have received only one shot and those who have received both shots, but are within less than fourteen days post inoculation….please wake up. The fully vaccinated are a house on fire and their immune systems are on cough suppressant

            • Adam says:

              around here we only test “unvaxxed” . . .

              take from that what you will

        • Fast Eddy says:

          And the CDC said the vaccines would result in herd immunity.

          Are you for f789ing real???????? I’d really like to run your face through the boards to see if it might wake you up

        • JMS says:

          Viruses, the illusive non-creatures, the ultimate nemesis of the principle of contradiction!!!
          Although they are not alive, they can mutate and, even more amazing, wreak havock among all kinds of living beings!!!

          Obviously, formal Logic is a completely unknown subject in biology and medical schools.

          I think someone should study the possibility that viruses are weather phenomena, like hurricanes, or geological, like volcanoes.

          • JMS says:

            My pet theory though is that viruses are mythological creatures from scientific folklore, and deeply related to zombies. I’m thinking of applying for a grant from the gates foundation to study this hypothesis.

  37. Marco Bruciati says:

    in Italy many cars run on natural gas. compressed Natural gas … yesterday in one day the price went from 1 euro per cubic meter to 2 euro per cubic meter. all motorists are angry. very

  38. jodytishmack says:

    September 2021 Manufacturing ISM® Report On Business®

    “Business Survey Committee panelists reported that their companies and suppliers continue to deal with an unprecedented number of hurdles to meet increasing demand. All segments of the manufacturing economy are impacted by record-long raw materials lead times, continued shortages of critical materials, rising commodities prices and difficulties in transporting products. Global pandemic-related issues — worker absenteeism, short-term shutdowns due to parts shortages, difficulties in filling open positions and overseas supply chain problems — continue to limit manufacturing growth potential.” https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/manufacturing-pmi-at-61-1-september-2021-manufacturing-ism-report-on-business-301389267.html

    The global economy is certainly facing some severe challenges (supply chains, transportation issues, labor issues, and now energy supply and price issues). These challenges on top of climate change impacts becoming more severe and geopolitical stability failing to deal challenges.

    In some ways our situation makes me think of the sound of a train beginning to move. The long chain of cars bump and jerk, starting and stopping, as they slowly begin to move in the same direction. Inertia is the only challenge and the solution is the slow, steady pull to overcome it. Trying to restart the global economy is so much more difficult. First of all we aren’t all pulling in the same direction. We don’t know when sudden, highly destructive weather disasters might impact us. We don’t have competent leaders. We have a relatively small number of super wealthy persons who are determined to continue hoarding wealth and resources. Humanity is completely unprepared for a world without fossil energy. Perhaps it’s no wonder so many people are becoming unhinged.

    • The economy slowed down, not so much because of the pandemic, as because of the fact that prices for many commodities had been too low for producers for many years. Trying to restart the economy causes a problem because it needs to overcome a huge amount of inertia. It needs to overcome the pull of lack of profitability of these commodities. It needs to overcome the problem of chronically low wages that goes with low profitability, in many areas of the world.

      The supposed treatment for the pandemic makes the problem worse. Mothers can’t count on childcare, if their child may be made to quarantine at home whenever someone at school or the daycare gets sick. Vaccine mandates lead people to quite their jobs. Without workers, fewer goods and services are made.

      • Interestingly, in their latest episode Keisers also used the very same word “inertia” not allowing for rapid rebound-restart of the halted economy (although they don’t get into energy / resource debate much). Moreover, they cited gov/FED finally acknowledging (sort of) stagflation.

      • Sam says:

        Yes! The world economic situation was in trouble before Covid! Thank you! No one mentions this much if at all. They want to think everything was fine then Covid hit and our response triggered this problem. The problem was there all along it’s jus That Covid moved it up a year or two. How long can oil countries pump at a loss and how long can the U.S China and Europe continue to create debt? That’s the main question… I was thinking we would see these problems in 2023 but here they are now … I am not sure how long they will last.

        • I know that I gave a talk in December 2019 predicting problems because of the terrible condition the world economy was in. Peak automobile sales were in 2017; peak cell phone sales were the same year, I believe. China had to give up most of its massive recycling program effective January 1, 2018, because of its unprofitability, with oil prices too low to support it after the price drop in late 2014.

          Quite a few of the problems were in China. We didn’t notice them because China doesn’t announce them to us. Their coal supply, and its inability to grow (perhaps actually shrink, hard to tell from their conflicting data) has been a big problem.

          • Dennis L. says:

            You pointed out the difficulty of China mining coal several years previous.

            Dennis L.

        • postkey says:

          This ‘Thatcherite monetarist’ disagreed?
          “High growth of real broad money is associated with rising asset prices and healthy balance sheets, and tends to precede above-growth trend in demand and output. In the five months to September US M3 (as measured by Shadow Government Statistics) increased at an annualised rate of 9.2%, in the context of sub-2% inflation. Real money growth was therefore unusually high, the highest in fact since 2007. In the Eurozone also recent money growth has been robust. In the six months to August the annualised rate of growth of M3 was 7.3%, with inflation at about 1%. Since the USA and the Eurozone together account for 40% of world output (in current prices and at current exchange rates), these developments argue against a recession in 2020. They suggest that, on the contrary, the world economy should start 2020 in good form. Admittedly, money growth may slow from here. (Money growth has also picked up in the last couple of months in Japan and the UK, but from low levels, and they of course matter less than the USA and the Eurozone.)
          In China and India banks continue to expand their balance sheets at not much less than double-digit annualised rates. But in both these two big developing countries regulatory officialdom is disciplining the financial system, with attacks on shadow banks in China and on non-performing loans in India. (Moreover, India seems to suffer at present from a supply-side malaise [due perhaps to the over-active BJP government], with the car industry undergoing a sharp reverse.) Overall a sensible central assessment is that during 2020 the world economy will see roughly trend growth, with inflation staying at very low levels. If money growth remains close to recent highs in the USA and the Eurozone, a more positive forecast would be justified. “
          https://mv-pt.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Monthly_e_mail_1910_No_global_recession_in_2020.pdf

      • jodytishmack says:

        I recall many things impacting the economy in 2020. China did a very tightly controlled shutdown in cities where the virus was found. Trump administration had already started a tariff war with China and it was not clear to me how this would impact supply chains since the US imports so much from China. The US didn’t really shut down our full economy, mostly hospitality and tourism, but you are right about daycare and schools impacting parents especially with young children. In many ways I suspect the system was teetering for all the reasons you mentioned (prices and wages too low) but I also think the last straw was the intentional shutdown and the worries created the infection.
        Our economic system is extremely complex and has emergent properties that cannot be explained from the individual parts. We really have no clear idea of how all the interconnected than parts and flows work. We do know that the abundance of cheap, portable fossil fuels greatly accelerated technological advances, population increase, pollution, and environmental degradation. The resource cupboard is getting bare.

      • Dennis L. says:

        My JD dealer reports orders are up 135% over last year. At a restaurant last night, owner reports the best year he has ever had.

        JD again, dealer thinks it is demand which has increased. Lot is literally empty of new tractors, order one now take delivery summer 2022. Mine which came last week was ordered by dealership in August 2021.

        Dennis L.

    • jodytishmack says:

      I wonder if things will get so bad that countries will nationalize energy companies in order to control prices and exports. In some ways soaring prices are a form of price gouging, but few people want to admit that we actually face diminishing supplies and that as resources become limited the price will naturally rise.

      • It is governments that fail without adequate energy. I am not sure that nationalizing oil companies really works, when the problem is too low prices.

        Governments nationalize oil companies when they are doing well, so that they can maximize the amount of taxes that they can collect from them. On the way down, the subsidies must indirectly come from energy provided somewhere in the system.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Oil was effectively nationalized many years ago… if we look at break even points if the central banks were not stepping in to prop them up … most would have stopped pumping long ago…

          Shale would not exist

  39. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Iraqis march in Baghdad to mark protests anniversary

    “Iraqis commemorate the victims of a crackdown against protesters demanding an overhaul of Iraq’s ruling class, days before a new parliamentary vote.”

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/10/1/iraqis-march-in-baghdad-to-mark-protests-anniversary

  40. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Venezuela to subtract six zeros from currency, second overhaul in three years.

    “Venezuela on Friday will launch its second monetary overhaul in three years by cutting six zeros from the bolivar currency in response to hyperinflation, simplifying accounting but doing little to ease the South American nation’s economic crisis.”

    https://www.euronews.com/2021/10/02/us-venezuela-economy

    • Harry McGibbs says:

      “Puerto Rico is on the brink of a power supply crisis. Protesters demand answers.

      ““It’s not normal to have blackouts, it’s not normal that our students cannot study properly, it’s not normal to have to live with generators,” a community activist said.”

      https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/puerto-rico-brink-power-supply-crisis-protesters-demand-answers-rcna2508

      • Harry McGibbs says:

        “Turkish company cuts off electricity supply to Lebanon.

        “The move by Turkish company Karpowership, which has provided electricity for the past eight years, was expected. It had said earlier that Lebanon’s state power company owes Karpowership overdue payments in excess of $100 million.”

        https://www.dailysabah.com/business/energy/turkish-company-cuts-off-electricity-supply-to-lebanon

      • It may not be normal now to have power outage, but when there is not enough to go around, someone will be left out. Island countries seem to be high on the list of parts of the world that get left out.

        • Mirror on the wall says:

          What is ‘normal’ for humans is poverty and squalor without any ‘all mod cons.’ Modern IC is very much the exception in history – a blip in the night.

          The invocation of the common illusion that humans all have an inherent ‘right’ to the benefits of modern material development is liable to lose its effect as the situation develops.

          As you say, it is a lot easier for societies, and for the ‘international community’, to moral posture when there is a relative plenty to go around.

          Times of globalized growth encourage a very different rhetoric and modus operandi than ‘normal conditions’ – let alone those of ‘degrowth’ or outright collapse.

    • Bei Dawei says:

      Turkey did this about ten years ago, to show they had turned over a new leaf. (They did not turn over a new leaf.)

    • Kowalainen says:

      Venezuela could start their currency with negative 6-figures. Then there’s plenty of head room for inflation.

      Or just go with complex numbers making sure that the magnitude of the currency stays the same. Let the inflation hit the imaginary parts, do the calculation and then discard it leaving the real part.

      Imagine the possibilities going hyper complex numbers. 8 dimensional algebra when you are sourcing potatoes.

      Q: “How much for that loaf?
      A: “The characteristic probability function for you being hungry today Bolivars!”

      I’d love the utter confusion that would create.

      🤣👍👍

  41. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Ukraine claims Gazprom gas deal with Hungary is “use of gas as a weapon”, demands sanctions.

    “Ukraine’s national gas company Naftogaz and the pipeline operator Gas Transmission System Operator of Ukraine (GTSOU) claimed on October 1 that last week’s deal by Russia’s Gazprom to supply Hungary and reduce gas supplies to Ukraine was the “use of gas as a weapon” and demanded the US and EU impose sanctions as promised.”

    https://www.intellinews.com/ukraine-claims-gazprom-gas-deal-with-hungary-is-use-of-gas-as-a-weapon-demands-sanctions-222441/

    • Harry McGibbs says:

      “Russia doubles electricity exports to China to help ease power crunch…

      “Inter RAO, which received a request from the State Grid Corporation of China to increase electricity supplies to the country’s northern provinces this week, started to increase exports on Friday, the company told reporters.”

      https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/russia-doubles-electricity-exports-to-china-to-help-ease-power-crunch-2021-10-01

      • Sam says:

        It would seem that natural gas is going to go higher… along with oil .. at least in the short term

      • It sounds like Russia plans to provide (sell) quite a bit of electricity to China:

        “All three Russia-China transmission lines, which are capable of delivering up to 7 billion kilowatt-hours of electrical power per year, will be used for supplies, it added.”

        If Russia is going to provide all of this electricity to China, it likely has to burn more fuel. I am guessing it would be natural gas, but it also could be coal. That will leave less for exporting to Europe and elsewhere. There is still a “fixed sum” energy game.

        • Ed says:

          Gail, 7 billion KWHr per year is 0.8 million KWHr per hour or
          0.8 GWHr per hour so 0.8GW continuously a small nuclear power plant. Not that much.

    • The Ukraine gas problem has been ongoing for many years. Now, with not enough to go around, it is heating up again.

  42. Harry McGibbs says:

    “China’s power crisis shocks Australia’s wool industry. Price of farm inputs also tipped to rise… for Australian farmers, it could lead to fertiliser and glyphosate prices going even higher…

    “Australian Council of Wool Exporters president Josh Lamb [aptly named!] said Chinese buyers expected potential shutdowns for up to six months.”

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-02/china-power-restriction-shocks-wool-industry/100506408

  43. Harry McGibbs says:

    “Surging natural gas prices, a cold winter, and reopening of international airline travel could push oil prices to $100 per barrel and trigger the next economic crisis, Bank of America says…

    “…oil potentially soaring to $100 could be the trigger to a global crisis due to high inflationary pressure… BofA is bullish on oil not only in the near term, but in the longer term as well, due to the chronic underinvestment in new supply…”

    https://oilprice.com/Energy/Oil-Prices/Bank-Of-America-Energy-Crunch-Could-Lead-To-100-Oil-And-Economic-Crisis.html

    • Harry McGibbs says:

      “Global economy facing bout of stagflation as soaring prices and chaos in supply chains and energy market wreak havoc for businesses… Barnaby Martin, a credit strategist at Merrill Lynch International, said: ‘Inflation is suddenly everywhere.

      “‘Year to date, tin prices are up 74 per cent, gasoline prices are up 60 per cent, coffee is up 52 per cent, aluminium up 47 per cent, and the list goes on. The energy crisis is already of historic proportions, with gas prices in Italy up 385pc year-to-date.”

      https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-10050297/Global-economy-facing-bout-stagflation.html

    • The question is how much oil prices rise, and how long they stay high.

      I think enough things are already going wrong with natural gas and coal prices to start a global crisis. It doesn’t seem like oil prices could rise very high, for very long, before the entire combination would trigger a crisis.

      Prices need to stay up for quite a while, to bring oil supply up so that it is truly higher.

  44. CTG says:

    Here is my take :

    1. Leaving all “conspiracy theories/facts” aside
    2. Assuming that the data published is real and no one is hiding anything
    3. Nothing related to CEP, etc.

    We have too many “complex civilization” issue cropping up now, including the self-induced COVID-19.

    Energy crisis worldwide, fiat currency devaluation and , possibly geopolitical issues. Looking at the EU energy issue, moving forwardI cannot find any reasonable solution. It looks like Russia is pumping out at its maximum contractual rate, it is still autumn, storage is low, price is high, I see no viable solution.

    As for the cause of this, I am highly suspicious of that locking down, shortage of workers, supply chain issues are causing. I have no idea how this can happen viewing that before COVID-19, all is well.

    The only thing that I can point out as a possible cause in China is that either through mismanagement or limits from nature, they have less coal than what they want to have.

    Even after spending a lot of time thinning through, I cannot come to a reasonable, logical and non-conspiratorial answer to “why” and “how to solve”

    • geno mir says:

      Perhaps it was bad idea to come up with top-down managment style for a down-top self-organizing/self-emerging energy dissipating system which human civilization is.

  45. Trousers says:

    So, if Gail’s theories are right then… We shouldn’t be expecting a great deal from this current inflation scare?

    Since there won’t be the underlying economic growth to drive wages generally higher to compensate for the supply side shortages to continue driving the inflation we are seeing. Some stagflation perhaps followed by stagnation, recession and more emergency stimulus… Or something more immediate and much worse?

    • BahamasEd says:

      I believe, you should expect inflation(higher prices) in the things you need (energy to include food) and deflation in mass produced trinkets.

      • Malcopian says:

        But it still takes energy to mass-produce things.

      • on-off mass production of “trinkets” usually results in decreased quality also.. so fewer available and shoddy products on top of it..

        it’s a bit similar to (a slower) process of upgraded carz production, i.e. only moreon buys brand new model, you better wait few improvement cycles, several yrs needed actually.. So, even extended pre-testing of prototypes and early test manufacturing CAN’T smooth – iron out all unseen difficulties..

        • Kowalainen says:

          Yeah, cheap mass produced jank will go the way of the dodo.

          I guess it will be difficult to source el cheapo IC’s. Gotta up the game consolidating the distributed penny pinched generic crappery into one state of the art unit. Preferably with chips carved out of silicon in the hottest process node at TSMC or Samsung.

          That’s why 10k ebikes and 1.5k iPhones are available. Why bother with crusty old processors? Shit margins and a pain in the xyz.

          It’s about time for the auto industry to take note from Tesla and get serious about dishing out good electronics. Design to a state of the art spec and not to a price. ALL cars will become more simple and complex. Simple mechanics and complex electronics.

          Their problem being, they don’t know how to do that being stuck in a legacy quagmire of thinking and doing with their absurd turf wars and generic top-down orgs waddling in “not invented here” fallacy and ego tripping managers and system engineer amateurs.

          Watch the companies going with the hottest tech prosper, and a “work from home” tactic.

          I mean, we’re in the goddamned 21’st century. It’s about time to move the needle for the private and public sector.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            Never understood this e-bike craze…. if what people really want is to lie on the sofa and watch teevee and chomp on triple cheese pizza washed down with a gallon of soda… then do it…

            Why go through the pretence of ‘exercising’ .. or just buy a golf cart … then you can bring the pizza and soda long for the ride and cruise around in comfort.

            • Kowalainen says:

              I guess you gotta try one in a favorite trail in that resort of yours. And the eMTB isn’t for you. That’s for your wife. Or your kid(s) if you had one.

              It makes uphills and cycling together more fun.

              The sole purpose of the motor is to make it more fun. You’ll be dishing out the oh noes motor or not. If you’re bent that way, that is.

              If your perspective of ebikes is to get your lazy princess rear end between A and B as conveniently as possible, you’ve mistaken it altogether. Then instead stick to your fossil burning relic and call it a day.

              Within temptation is truth and we are all free to choose. I’m living it, you’re excusing it.

              😊

            • Fast Eddy says:

              We differ here…. going up the hills is THE challenge… it is the part that makes you fitter… stronger… better …. It’s the purpose of biking…. It is THE fun….

              Cheating by using a battery is what a snowflake does.. (exceptions for old goats who just can’t hack it anymore)….

              It’s the same with anything whether it’s sports (some people fold when put under pressure — others respond … win or lose … you must respond…) or business … or life… you respond …

              eBikes are for quitters. And old broken down goats.

              Oh and my favourite is when I see an ebiker kitted out in tight fitting spandex … do they have ebike races … hahaha…. biggest battery wins!!!

              Clowns. Weaklings. Old Goats.

    • There was a big cutback in the “credit impulse,” but then China declared, “Spend whatever it takes to get the coal you need.” I presume a similar view applies to natural gas. This would seem to equate to, “Take on a whole lot more debt.” If China starts the contest back up again, maybe it can go on a while longer, with more inflation.

      • Sam says:

        What is a while longer? And does this make you change your thoughts on the price of oil? Seems like if we go down this road then prices can and will rise much higher before the crash.

        • the price of energy will rise to the point where it becomes unaffordable to the majority, then the crash will hit rapidly, a domino effect,

          impossible to pin down when that will be

          10 years ago i forecast (when pressed) mid 2020s, right now i don’t think i’m too far adrift on that

  46. CTG says:

    BREAKING: AI-powered DoD data analysis program named “Project Salus” SHATTERS official vaccine narrative, shows A.D.E. accelerating in the fully vaccinated with each passing week

    https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-10-01-ai-powered-dod-data-analysis-program-project-salus-shows-ade-accelerating-fully-vaccinated.html

    How real? I dont know. Just posting to share. Conclude accordongly

    • I am not convinced that what is being shown is A.D.E. It simply looks to me as if the benefit of vaccines wears off over time. The vaccinated, indeed, do fare better than the unvaccinated.

      People with dark skin colors fare worse than others with respect to breakthrough infections, according to the report. They had higher infection rates to begin with and lower vitamin D statuses.

      No one looks at vitamin D status. What is happening with respect to those with high levels of vitamin D?

      • Fast Eddy says:

        I don’t think the vaccines ‘wear off’… what they do is not kill the virus… so the virus adapts and strengthens overcoming the vaccine… which then requires boosters to be thrown into the battle… they of course are defeated one by one as the virus further strengthens.

        Even with flu … the reason people need annual boosters is because the virus mutates… but with flu vaccines we do not attempt to mass inject during a pandemic… that is a no-no…

        • Mike Roberts says:

          No vaccines kill a virus. What they do is stimulate an immune system response.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            Which eliminates the virus… when you have a sterilizing vaccine.

            The Covid vaccines do not eliminate the virus – they strengthen it — and that is why we are seeing off the chart infections.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      This aligns with what we are seeing in countries that injected early on including Israel Singapore the UK South Korea….

      Of course the MOREONS will remain in denial…. of the fact that the ‘Vax’ has made what was basically a flu like illness… much more dangerous… and the Boosters and mixing of Injected CovIDIOTS will exacerbate the situation.

      All in a days work for the Elders … and the PR and Medical Teams.

      Can you hear the drumbeat of extinction… the hordes are coming closer

      https://mtv.mtvnimages.com/uri/mgid:file:http:shared:mtv.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/tumblr_np9cdc4hWO1r00543o3_r1_500-1433172867.gif

    • Lidia17 says:

      I think it’s mostly the essentially corrosive effects of the experimental gene therapy working themselves out, rather than a canonical antibody response. People don’t seem to be getting ‘cytokine storm’ issues so much as they are getting clotting and neurological problems.

      Calling “vax” injuries “breakthrough infections” is (imo) a convenient ruse that keeps Covid fear alive while deflecting from the toxic nature of the jabs. It paints the jabs as “too weak”, rather than “extremely deadly”.

  47. Yoshua says:

    Dow Jones broke the trend line as well. It’s hard to say if this is the big one. Things are looking bad all around the world. The central banks can’t fix everything.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FAnNt-pXIBIbjI-?format=jpg&name=large

    • I agree that the Dow Jones broke the trend line. With high energy prices and even rolling blackouts, it is should be clear that the world economy will be doing worse in the next few months. This information is only slowly filtering into Main Street Media, however. As the information filters in, it would seem likely that the Dow will fall further.

      I am not sure how long energy prices will stay high; to some extent it depends on the extent to which other countries support the high prices with more money to give away.

      At some point, lack of actual fuel and finished goods and services will cause a huge economic contraction. There may be big financial disruptions at this point, and a cutback in international trade.

      • Jon F says:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csf4fdV-EOQ

        Hi Gail,

        The link is to a video of Adam McTaggart of Wealthion interviewing Luke Gromen, I follow a lot of these market analyst types and this is the first time I have seen one of them make the connection between cheap energy, productivity, living standards and repayment of debt + interest.
        Watch from 36:35, Luke does a nice job of weaving all this stuff together.

        • Thanks! Luke talks about the fact that most of the increase in the world’s oil production since 2005 has been the result of increasing US shale oil production. Now, it is reaching the point where more and more must be invested, just to stay even. This is the “Red Queen” effect.

          They compare this to the increasing government debt and other debt. Lowering interest rates allows for more debt, without paying more interest, but at some point this runs into problems as well, since interest rates can’t go very negative. If interest rates can’t go very negative, debt also reaches the Red Queen effect. More and more must be issued, to pay interest and well as to repay debt.

          Someplace, Luke seems to go a little off the tracks, I think. He says, “The demand for energy is infinite.” This is only true, if the economy can continue to grow and produce more and more goods which citizens can afford to pay for, and it needs more energy to make those goods. In the next segment (requiring payment), Luke will tell us why gold and bitcoin will do well in the future.

          It seems like at some point, the system starts breaking down. There is less international trade. There are too many defaults. Local governments will replace current larger governments. Or is Luke right, at least for the next few years?

          • Mirror on the wall says:

            Hey Gail, all that you have to do is to vote for the right president. That is why elections matter so much, and why people get so bothered about them. /s

            The Red Queen is no match for King Biden or Orange Man. You should invest in Bitcoin now. $5 to find out why.

            • Sam says:

              I had to read that twice and both times it was a waste of time it doesn’t matter who is president. We are still going down the same road you could put Ronald McDonald for president and we would end up in the same place. No person can fix this predicament we are in…Bitcoin will collapse.

            • Mirror on the wall says:

              A feel for satire is not everyone’s forte.

            • Ed says:

              Sam don’t miss the /s at te end of the first paragraph. /s for sarcasm

          • Jon F says:

            Gail,

            Somewhere in there Luke talks about the energy return on energy invested, how 100 years ago, 1 barrel invested returned roughly 100 barrels, whereas now 1 barrel invested returns possibly less than 10.

            He describes this as the declining productivity of our energy supply and as a result we can’t really afford to maintain our current standard of living. Government debt will continue to balloon. Pressure on interest rates to go even lower. The dollar is doomed.

            None of this is new information to yourself or readers of OFW, but I’ve never heard one of these finance guys make the connection between surplus energy and economic growth before.

            If the penny has dropped for Luke I would imagine it will drop for more of these market commentators.

            Viewing the economy as an energy system is second nature to us but it is still really a fringe idea. Could it be on the way to wider acceptance?

            Many thanks Gail for all your work here at OFW.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              They don’t talk about it because they know we are imminently transitioning to ‘renewable energy’… so it doesn’t matter.

              Many of them drive Teslas

            • I didn’t know anything about Luke’s background. For all I knew, he was a long-time peak oiler.

              Economists understand the demand side of energy supply, but they seem not to be aware of how important energy is to make anything happen.

          • Duncan Idaho says:

            Gail, as you know, world production peaked in November of 2018.
            Capitalism needs to grow or die.
            Can you see the result?
            Unfortunately, no one seems to see a world without capitalism.
            One needs to get out of small boxes.

  48. CTG says:

    Take note that many news sources are in full disinformation mode. Details re required when we talk about the number of hospitalized cases being vaccinated or not. Remember that if a place is 100% vaccinated, then all the hospitalized will be 100%vaccinated.

    • Lidia17 says:

      Good points. Similarly, though, I don’t necessarily believe some of those high vaccination rate numbers.

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