Is it possible that the world is approaching end times?

I frequently write that the world economy is, in physics terms, a dissipative structure that is powered by energy. It can grow for a time, but eventually it reaches limits of many kinds. Ultimately, it can be expected to stop growing and collapse.

It seems to me that the world economy is showing signs that it has reached a turning point. Economic growth stopped in 2020 and is having trouble restarting in 2021. Fossil fuel energy of all types (oil, coal and natural gas) is in short supply, relative to the world’s huge population. Ultimately, this inadequate energy supply can be expected to pull the world economy toward collapse.

The world economy doesn’t behave the way most people would expect. Standard modeling approaches miss the point that economies require adequate supplies of energy products of the right kinds, provided at the right times of day and year, if they are to keep from collapsing. Shortages are not necessarily marked by high prices; prices that are too low for producers will bring down the energy supply quickly. A collapse may occur due to inadequate demand; in fact, such a scenario is described in Revelation 18.

As strange as it may seem, we may be approaching what some of us would think of as end times, if our economy collapses for lack of cheap-to-produce energy supplies. In this post, I will try to explain what is happening.


[1] In some ways, the self-organizing economy is like a child’s building toy that, with the use of human energy, can be built up to higher and higher levels.

Figure 1. Thought map by Gail Tverberg.

The economy is gradually built up by the addition of new customers, new businesses and new products. Governments play a role as well, adding new infrastructure, laws and taxes. Adequate wages for employees are important because, to a significant extent, employees are also consumers of goods and services made by the economy.

Adequate energy supplies of the right types are terribly important because every process used by the economy requires energy, even if the only energy used is electricity to light a light bulb or operate a computer. Heating and cooling require energy, as does transportation.

Human energy is an important part of the economy, as well. Humans eat food to provide them with energy. An individual human’s own energy output is relatively tiny; it is about equal to the output of a 100-watt light bulb. With the use of supplemental energy of various kinds, humans can do many tasks that would not be possible otherwise, such as cooking food, creating metals from ores, heating homes, and building cars and trucks.

The economy cannot “go backwards” because, if a product is no longer needed, it will no longer be produced. The economy represented by Figure 1 is in some sense hollow inside. For example, once people started using automobiles, buggy whips were no longer made. If cities went back to using horses as their main means of transport, we would need manure removal services. These, too, would be missing.

[2] Another way of thinking about the world economy is that it is somewhat like a rocket that needs fuel. It also has waste outputs. Both of these limit the growth of the world economy.

Figure 2. Chart by Gail Tverberg.

The economy uses a wide array of inputs. At the same time, it produces a whole host of undesirable outputs. Inputs need to be inexpensive to produce, or citizens will not be able to afford the goods and services made by the system. The waste outputs cannot become too significant, or they can lead the economy to fail. In fact, with the world’s growing population, we seem to be reaching many limits with respect to both inputs and undesirable outputs, simultaneously.

[3] Strangely enough, the major energy limit that the world economy is hitting seems to be “energy prices that do not rise high enough for producers.”

This energy limit is exactly the opposite of what most people are looking for. They assume that “demand” will always rise. In fact, the cost of production of energy products keeps rising because the easy to produce energy products are produced first. It is the market prices that energy products can be sold for that do not rise adequately.

When we trace the problem back, we discover that the problem with prices arises from the equivalence between producers of goods and services and consumers of goods and services indicated on Figure 1. In order to have enough “demand” to keep energy prices high enough for providers, it turns out that even the very low wage people in the world economy need to be able to afford necessities such as food, water, clothing, basic housing and transportation. In fact, if the cost of extracting fossil fuels rises too quickly because of depletion, or if the cost of getting renewable electricity into a form in which it is useful for society rises too much, there may be a situation when even a price based on full demand from all consumers is too low for energy producers.

Let’s define “return on human labor” as what a person without advanced training can earn by selling his physical labor as unskilled labor. Rather than dollar or euro terms, wages need to be thought of in terms of the physical goods and services that these wages can purchase. If supplemental energy per capita is rising rapidly, the return on human labor tends to rise. This happens because with higher energy consumption, humans can have more tools and technology requiring energy at their command. For example, the period between 1950 and 1970 was a time when energy consumption was rising rapidly. It was also a time of rising standards of living, even for workers without advanced training.

Figure 3. World per capita energy consumption, with the 1950-1980 period of rapid growth highlighted. World Energy Consumption by Source, based on Vaclav Smil’s estimates from Energy Transitions: History, Requirements and Prospects (Appendix) together with BP Statistical Data for 1965 and subsequent years, divided by population estimates by Angus Maddison.

The world economy can be expected to run into a major problem once supplemental energy consumption per capita starts falling because then human labor is necessarily less leveraged by fewer machines, such as trucks and airplanes. In total, fewer goods and services can be produced.

If energy supply is inadequate, businesses often find it advantageous to substitute computers or other machines for some work previously done by low paid workers. While these machines use a little energy in their operation, they do not need food, housing or transportation the way human workers do. With fewer actual workers, demand for finished goods and services tends to fall, pushing commodity prices, including those for fossil fuels, down. This further adds to the low-price problem.

It is the lack of jobs that pay well that tends to hold down commodity prices below the prices producers require. Ultimately, it is the lack of sufficient jobs that pay well that tends to bring the whole economy down. Most researchers have missed this important point.

[4] In the period leading up to collapse, wages fail to rise with the cost of required services. This leads to increasingly unhappy workers. Healthcare costs and college costs are especially problematic, because their costs have been rising faster than costs in general.

Figure 4. Illustrates the issue that seems to be occurring:

Figure 4. Chart from Washington Post based on a Cost-of-Thriving analysis by Oren Cass.

When energy consumption per capita is growing rapidly, the economy adds items that were not previously considered necessary. Instead of a basic education for all being sufficient, advanced education (often paid for by the student) becomes necessary for many jobs. Healthcare costs keep rising rapidly, making it more difficult to make wages cover all necessary expenses (Figure 4).

We can see additional evidence that workers have been tending to get poorer in recent years by looking at the trend in the number of light vehicles purchased. With rising population, a person would expect the number of automobiles sold to increase, year after year, if citizens found their incomes as adequate as in the past. Instead, we see a pattern of falling automobile sales, practically everywhere, starting well before 2020. For example, peak light vehicle sales in China occurred in 2017.

Figure 5. Auto sales by country based on data of VDA.de.

[5] An increase in debt can temporarily be used to hide both inadequate inexpensive-to-produce energy supply and inadequate wages of workers, but we seem to be reaching limits using this approach to hide energy problems.

The last time the world had relatively stable low oil prices was in the years prior to 1973. As noted previously, low energy prices tend to make finished goods, such as homes and cars, inexpensive to buy and operate. Thus, they tend to be affordable.

Figure 6. Inflation-adjusted oil prices based on data of BP’s 2021 Statistical Review of World Energy.

The big issue if oil and other prices rise very high is that the selling prices of goods and services tend to rise too high to be affordable to consumers. The workaround that was developed to fix this unaffordability problem was to change the economy to use more debt. To be affordable, interest rates had to fall lower and lower. Peak interest rates occurred in 1981; they have been trending downward since then.

Figure 7. 10-Year US Treasury and 3-Month Treasury yields, through November 2021. Chart by St. Louis Federal Reserve (FRED).

If debt at ever-lower interest rates is available, assets such as homes, farmland, factories and shares of stock become more affordable, allowing prices of these assets to rise. Owners of these assets feel wealthier. In fact, they may borrow more money against the inflated price of these assets and use this money to buy more goods and services made with commodities, thus helping to raise commodity prices. The lower interest rates make the purchase of automobiles more affordable as well, helping to raise the price of commodities used to make and operate automobiles.

There is a limit on how low these interest rates can go, however, especially if inflation is a problem. Current interest rates seem to be down near where they were during the Great Depression of the 1930s. This suggests that the economy is truly doing very poorly.

Today, Brent oil prices are about $69 per barrel. This price is not high enough for producers to want to prepare more fields for drilling. As far as I can see, the price needs to be up in the range of $120 per barrel, and stay there for many years, for oil producers to consider putting major effort into developing more fields. Natural gas and coal have similar low-price problems.

While governments cannot seem to be able to fix the low-price problem for fossil fuels, they can find ways to pay their citizens money for doing nothing, or next to nothing. These payments will add to a government’s debt, but they don’t really produce more goods and services. What these payments tend to produce is inflation in the prices of goods and services that are available.

Over time, we can expect the lack of growth in energy supply to lead to an increasing number of broken supply lines. Without long-term high-price guarantees, producers will not be willing to increase production. Without adequate fuel supply, an increasing number of products will disappear from the shelves of stores. A smaller number of people will have jobs, especially jobs that pay well. The economy can be expected to head in the direction of collapse.

We can think of debt as a promise of future goods and services, made with future energy production. If energy supplies are rising rapidly and can be expected to continue to rise rapidly in the future, this promise can be expected to hold. Of course, if energy supplies start falling, all bets are off. Supply lines are likely to break. We consider money and other securities issued by governments to be a “store of value,” but, if there is little to buy (for example, all international flights are cancelled and automobiles of the desired type are permanently out of stock), its ability to act as a store of value will start to disappear. If the economy collapses completely, neither stocks nor bonds will have value.

[6] Nothing happens for a single reason in a self-organizing economy. Lack of energy affects every part of the economy, from jobs to finished output, almost simultaneously.

In a self-organizing economy, everything is interconnected. Inadequate energy per capita leads to low selling prices for commodities of all kinds. Inadequate energy per capita also leads to low wages for workers, low benefits provided by governments, and uprisings to protest these low wages and benefits. These uprisings began in 2019 or even earlier.

The unhappiness of workers leads to the election of increasingly radical politicians, in the hope that something can be done to fix the problems. There are basically not enough goods and services to go around, but no one wants to admit that this could be a problem.

[7] Citizens cannot imagine a declining and eventually collapsing economy. Businesses, governments and individual citizens all demand “happily ever after futures.”

Figure 8. Chart by Gail Tverberg. Amounts through 2020 based on an analysis of historical energy consumption using the same sources as those used in Figure 3.

If there is a history of growth, nearly everyone is happier if forecasts pretend that economic growth can continue forever. Newspapers want such stories, because this is what their advertisers, such as automakers, want. Automobiles need to be usable for a long period in the future. Universities want favorable forecasts because they want their students to believe that their degrees will have great future value. Politicians want a story of growth forever, because this is what voters want and expect. They have come to believe that governments can save them from all problems; there is no longer any need for religion.

As energy supplies get scarce, the rich tend to become richer and the poor tend to become poorer. François Roddier explains that this is because of the physics of the situation. Wealthy individuals and corporations discover that they have a rapidly growing ability to influence the narrative provided by Mainstream Media. If influential citizens and groups want citizens to hear a “happily ever after ending” to our current problems, they can make certain that this is the predominant narrative of Mainstream Media. It is only people who are willing to hear sources outside of the mainstream who can learn what is really happening.

The fact that the world economy would run into energy limits about now has been known for a very long time. For example, US Navy Rear Admiral Hyman Rickover talks about the close connection between energy and the economy in this 1957 speech. He points out that the world is likely to run short of fossil fuel by 2050. Later modeling documented in the 1972 book The Limits to Growth indicated that the world economy was likely to collapse in a similar timeframe. The modeling done in that analysis considered rising population relative to total resources, without looking at energy resources separately.

[8] It is easy to create models that predict growth will continue forever, even if the physics of the situation says this is not possible.

Economists provide their work to politicians. They certainly cannot provide forecasts of a coming calamity such as economic collapse. They also are unaware of the physics of the situation, even though many researchers have been writing about the issue from a physics point of view since at least the mid-1980s.

Economists have chosen instead to make models that assume no limits are ahead. They seem to assume that all problems will be fixed by innovation, substitution and the pricing mechanism. They produce forecasts suggesting that the economy can grow endlessly in the future. Based on these forecasts, they provide input to models that reach the conclusion that amazingly large amounts of fossil fuels will be extracted in the future. Based on these nonsensical models, our problem is not the near-term limits that we are reaching; instead, our chief problem is climate change. Its impacts occur mostly in the future.

A corollary to this belief system is that it is we humans who are in charge and not the laws of physics. We can expect governments to protect us. We don’t need any outside help from a literal Higher Power who created the laws of physics. We need to listen to what the authorities on earth tell us. In fact, in troubled times, governments need more authority over their citizens. The many concerns regarding COVID-19 make it easy for governments to increase their control over citizens. We are told that it is only by following the mandates of governments that we will get through this strange time.

With nearly everyone on board with the idea that somehow the story of near-term collapse must be avoided at all costs, every part of the economy bases its actions on the narrative that the world economy is voluntarily moving away from fossil fuels. In this narrative, renewables will save us; electric vehicles are the way of the future; the world economy can continue to grow, but in a new way.

In fact, we are colliding with resource limits, right now. This seems to be what produced the bizarre situation experienced in 2020.

[9] As 2020 began, many sectors of the world economy were squeezed simultaneously. With limited energy resources, large parts of the economy needed to be cut back. The self-organizing economy acted in a very strange way. Shutdowns supposedly aimed at stopping COVID-19 from spreading acted very much like energy rationing, without mentioning the world’s energy problem.

Figure 9. World per capita energy supply by type of fuel, based on BP 2021 Statistical Review of World Energy data.

Several years before 2020, it should have been clear that the world economy was doing very poorly based on the continued need for very low interest rates (Figure 7) and Quantitative Easing. China, in particular, was doing poorly, as indicated by its low sales of automobiles (Figure 5). Of course, China doesn’t broadcast its problems to the rest of the world, so few people were aware of this issue.

China had been able to boost the world’s per capita supply of inexpensive-to-produce energy by ramping up its coal production after it joined the World Trade Organization in 2001. (Note the world ramp-up in coal, starting after 2001, on Figure 9.) Unfortunately, because of depletion, China’s coal production since 2013 has been close to flat. Furthermore, China had had a big recycling business, but discontinued it effective January 1, 2018. Discontinuation of this program was necessary because oil prices had fallen in 2014 and had never recovered to their former level. With low oil prices, most recycling in China made no sense economically. The loss of jobs from recycling and cutbacks in coal operations no doubt contributed to the declining sale of vehicles in China.

In the years before 2020, another big issue was that the wages of many workers were not keeping up with the rising cost of living. Figure 4 illustrates this issue for the US. The problem was especially acute for lower wage workers. During this period, the prices of many commodities were too low for producers. This led to layoffs and low wages for workers.

In early 2020, the world became aware of a new coronavirus that had been identified in China. The response to this new illness was very strange, compared to how previous pandemics had been handled. The response looked a great deal like intentionally scaring people (especially older people) into staying at home. If this were done, much less oil could be used. Natural gas and coal consumption could be reduced, as well.

This story is perhaps not so strange if we look at it in context. On January 8, 2020, I wrote that we should be expecting recession and low oil prices in 2020. I included this oil price chart.

Figure 10. Inflation adjusted weekly average Brent oil price, based on EIA oil spot prices and US CPI-urban inflation.

On January 29, I wrote, It is easy to overreact to a coronavirus. In this article, I pointed out that the economy already seemed to be headed in the direction of recession. Shutdowns would only make the problem worse.

Politicians choosing to shut down their economies in early 2020 were likely not aware that the real underlying problem within their economy was inadequate availability of inexpensive-to-produce energy. They were aware that China had decided to shut down part of its economy, so perhaps there might be some usefulness to such an action. Local leaders outside of China knew that their own factories were underutilized. If their own factories could be shut down temporarily, perhaps they could operate at closer to capacity, once they reopened.

Furthermore, a shutdown would give an excuse to keep workers protesting low wages inside. After the shutdown, there would be an excuse to raise the debt level, perhaps keeping the financial part of the economy going for a while longer. So, a shutdown would have many benefits, apart from any potential benefit from (sort of) containing the virus.

It became apparent as time went on that the vaccine story for COVID-19 was playing multiple roles, as well. The healthcare industry was becoming very large in the US. In fact, the size of the healthcare industry was beginning to interfere with the economy as a whole (Figure 4). Furthermore, manufacturers of medicines and vaccines were having problems with diminishing returns because the big, important drug finds had been discovered years ago. It was becoming difficult to profitably fund all of the research needed for new drugs.

Behind the scenes, the vaccine industry had been working for years on creating new viruses and preparing vaccines for these same viruses. The theory was that the same approaches that delivered vaccines might be helpful in treating diseases of various kinds. Vaccines might also be helpful in responding to bioweapon attacks. If drug manufacturers could market a blockbuster vaccine, the manufacturers, as well as the individuals holding the vaccine patents, could become rich.

The US was not alone in the research with respect to viruses and vaccines for these viruses. Many major countries, including Canada, France, Italy, Australia and China had funded this research, partly through their budgets for health research and partly through military budgets. There was virtually no chance that anyone would figure out the source of any problematic virus because so many major countries had had a part in funding this research. If citizens could be convinced that the virus was extremely dangerous and mandate the use of vaccines, the vaccine industry could greatly profit from vaccine sales. The vaccine could be created and marketed quickly because all of the research (but not enough testing) had been performed earlier.

A great deal of planning had been done before the pandemic appeared, based to a significant extent upon what outcome vaccine makers would prefer. Johns Hopkins University completed a SPARS Pandemic Scenario in October 2017, rehearsing responses to a pandemic. A training exercise called Event 201 was held on October 18, 2019, for the purpose of training high level government officials and news writers what their responses should be.

The sponsors of Event 201 were “The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security in partnership with the World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.” The latter two organizations are representatives of the very wealthy individuals and very large corporations. The primary interest of these organizations is enriching those who are already wealthy. The World Economic Forum is known for proclaiming, “You’ll own nothing and you’ll be happy.”

As time went on, it became very clear that the true nature of the COVID-19 epidemic was being hidden from citizens. It was, and is, not a terribly dangerous illness if it is treated properly with any number of inexpensive medications including aspirin, ivermectin, antihistamine and steroids. In fact, the severity of the disease could also be lessened by taking vitamin D in advance. There really was not a great deal of point to the vaccines, except to enrich the vaccine manufacturers and those who would benefit from the sale of the vaccines, including Anthony Fauci and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.

It also became clear that the vaccines don’t really do what a person might expect a vaccine to do. They do tend to stop severe illness, but taking vitamin D in advance would provide pretty much the same benefit. They don’t stop COVID-19 from circulating because vaccinated people can still catch COVID-19. The vaccines seem to have any number of side effects, including raising the risk of heart attacks.

The historical period most similar to the current period, in terms of shortage of energy supply, is that between World War I and World War II. At that time, the Jews were persecuted. Now, there is an attempt to divide the world into Vaccinated and Unvaccinated, with the Unvaccinated persecuted. When the economy cannot produce enough goods and services for all members of the economy, the economy seems to divide into almost warring parts.

We are basically trying to deal with an energy scenario that looks a lot like Figure 8, and the self-organizing economy comes up with very strange solutions. If people can convince themselves that it is OK to ostracize the unvaccinated, then maybe the move down the collapse will go more smoothly. For example, the military can be cut back in size by dismissing the unvaccinated, without admitting that with current resources, there is a need to reduce the size of the military.

Europe is the part of the world where the push for vaccinations is now highest. It is also in terrible shape with respect to energy supply. By ostracizing the unvaccinated, European countries can attempt to cut back their economies to the size that their energy supply will support, without admitting the real problem.

[10] The world economy is increasingly acting like economies that have collapsed in the past. In fact, there seems to be a connection with some of the strange statements from the book of Revelation.

We are living in a world now in which even if there are temporary price spikes, there is little chance that fossil fuel providers will ramp up their production. In order to ramp up supplies, they would need to start several years in advance, preparing new fields. Oil, coal and gas prices have stayed so low, for so long, that there is no belief that prices can rise to a high enough level and stay there, as the fuels are extracted. Thus, the fossil fuel will stay in the ground.

At the same time, it is becoming increasingly clear that renewables cannot be depended upon. In fact, low generation of electricity by wind turbines is part of the reason Europe is having to import the large quantity of natural gas and coal supplies it now requires. There is concern that rolling blackouts may be necessary during the winter in Europe, if not this year, sometime in the next few years.

It is becoming increasingly clear that the future energy scenario will look something like Figure 8, causing world population to fall dramatically within the next thirty years. This is the kind of situation most of us would associate with collapse. I think of it as being equivalent to end times, since our modern civilization will be disappearing. It is possible that there will be a remnant of people left, but they will be living a much simpler life, without fossil fuels or modern renewables.

There are several parts to what is happening that remind me of Old Testament writings in general, and of the book of Revelation (from the New Testament), in particular.

First, the willingness of the ultra-rich to look out for themselves and keep what look like perfectly good, cheap cures for COVID-19 from the world population seems to be precisely the kind of despicable behavior that Old Testament prophets despised. For example, in Amos 5:21-24, Amos tells the Jews that God despises their prior behavior. In verse 24 (NIV), he says, “But let justice roll on like a river, righteousness like a never-failing stream!”

As I noted in the introduction, Revelation 18 talks about lack of demand being an issue in the collapse of Babylon, and presumably in any future collapse that occurs. Revelation 18:11-13 reads:

11 The merchants of the earth will weep and mourn over her because no one buys their cargoes anymore— 12 cargoes of gold, silver, precious stones and pearls; fine linen, purple, silk and scarlet cloth; every sort of citron wood, and articles of every kind made of ivory, costly wood, bronze, iron and marble;13 cargoes of cinnamon and spice, of incense, myrrh and frankincense, of wine and olive oil, of fine flour and wheat; cattle and sheep; horses and carriages; and human beings sold as slaves.

The need for vaccine passports in some countries reminds a person of Revelation 13:17, “they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name.” In fact, people in Sweden are getting microchip implants after its latest COVID passport mandate.

Some people believe that Revelation 12 describes the Antichrist; that is, the polar opposite of Christ. Before the world comes to an end, Revelation 12 seems to predict a great fight against this Antichrist, which Christ wins. I could imagine Anthony Fauci being the Antichrist.

We are not used to living in a world where very little that is published by the Mainstream Media makes sense. But when we live in a time where no one wants to hear what is true, the system changes in a bizarre way, so that a great deal that is published is false.

It is disturbing to think that we may be living near the end of the world economy, but there is an upside to this situation. We have had the opportunity to live at a time with more conveniences than any other civilization. We can appreciate the many conveniences we have.

We also have the opportunity to decide how we want to live the rest of our lives. We have been led for many years down the path of believing that economic growth will last forever; all we need to do is have faith in the government and our educational institutions. If we figure out that this really isn’t the path to follow, we can change course now. If we want to choose a more spiritual approach, this is a choice we can still make.

About Gail Tverberg

My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
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6,123 Responses to Is it possible that the world is approaching end times?

  1. jj says:

    I keep having theses beliefs that at some point the data about injection injury will be so overwhelming that the injections will be stopped. I mean we have a emergency warning from the American heart association… What more does it take?

    The FDA had the data just released for some time. 42,000 adverse events from the pfizer first batch. They didnt stop it when they saw the data. They are not going to stop it. For whatever reason the adverse events are not important.

    https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/circ.144.suppl_1.10712

    • CTG says:

      jj – remember that if the MSM does not report it or cover up, it never happened. So, even if people are dying in large numbers, it will not have any impact unless it is reported by MSM.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        I keep telling the VFF https://voicesforfreedom.co.nz/ that they need to change their course and focus on vax injuries… but it falls on deaf ears…

        I don’t particularly care one way or the other but I would like to see how the J’ASSinda regime would react to a campaign of this nature

        I might print out a 100 or so of myocarditis numbers and put them into some mail boxes myself – just for the fun of it

  2. Michael Le Merchant says:

    Crude Oil Crash May Exacerbate Shortages Due To Drilling Slowdown
    https://seekingalpha.com/article/4473311-uso-crude-oil-crash-may-exacerbate-shortages-due-to-drilling-slowdown

  3. Michael Le Merchant says:

    Run cuts loom as European refiners grapple with Omicron

    Transport fuel margins plummeted in the second half of November amid growing concerns of another winter marred by Covid-19 restrictions. European 321 crack spreads — which compare three parts crude with two parts gasoline and one part diesel, used as a proxy for overall refining margins in Europe — hit their lowest since March on 23 November at $6.12/bl, and closed the month at just $6.95/bl after starting November at $15.53/bl. Margins have nosedived even despite a crash in crude prices over the same period — North Sea Dated lost 16pc over the course of the month to end November at $70.98/bl, its lowest since August.
    https://www.argusmedia.com/en/news/2279045-run-cuts-loom-as-european-refiners-grapple-with-omicron

    • With low refining margins, refiners cannot make money. They close up their refineries and leave Europe without enough locally produced diesel and gasoline. This makes Europe’s energy problems worse.

  4. Hello Fast Eddy, this is for you, my friend. I have curated some feel-good Anti-Apartheid songs – I hope Gail will bear with me on this, but it’s all tongue in the cheek I assure you all (yet, these curated tunes are clearly not exactly anti ‘medical-apartheid’ songs … yet they were rather popular in the 90’s.

    OK, here goes:

    Song 1 is a personal favourite … (leaving aside for a moment the reasl reason why Mr M was in jail – sorry Gaill, I know I’m pushing it, but F.E, is asking for it … )

    1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfk13uUuD8Q

    (more will follow).

  5. Herbie R Ficklestein says:

    By coincidence, the priest at our parish, F ather Mark a once native of Poland, has given two sermons in a row warning of the end times we are approaching. His first was centered on famine and thinking out loud that it may be just what we needed!🤔. This is the same day the Group was doing their food collection for the needy!!!!
    He had the same the second time around about shortages and such….
    Don’t recall too much 😜 🙈 and thought it odd since it wasn’t going to help the weekly collection basket.
    There were a few in the pews that maybe made a sound.
    At the end of the service he expressed he would be glad to discuss or debate about his talk afterwards if needed.. which I thought was a nice admission.
    If we cross I’ll mention OFW to home…

    • If possible debrief him or his circle, who or what (event) pushed him to this path of inquiry? Perhaps the message is just metastasizing over the net and msm as a popular meme now or some people are just opening eyes individually without noticing particular trigger.. Interesting.

  6. Michael Le Merchant says:

    Q&A #3: What will happen to the vaccinated as they get contaminated with Omicron?
    https://www.voiceforscienceandsolidarity.org/scientific-blog/what-will-happen-to-the-vaccinated-as-they-get-contaminated-with-omicron

    • It’s well known medial science 101 that with each variant the infectiousness increases, but the severity of the infection decreases. Yet, massive global over-reaction to the situation.

      • Kowalainen says:

        Spanish flu? First time around; no problems. Second time it got ripping.

        • Tim Groves says:

          Then, third time around, in 1919, the peak was only half that during the second wave, and there was no fourth wave. And this was a “flu” that infected a third of the world’s population and caused 50 million deaths by some accounts.

          Although I wasn’t born until 40 years after the event, I could argue that I lost three uncles to it. That adds up to a lot of missed pocket money and Christmas presents. So what I’m saying is who is the real victim here?

          • Kowalainen says:

            4’th time the charm. Who knows what the envelope of the virus is.

            Just because a flu virus behaves in a certain way isn’t a guarantee that a coronavirus will.

            “People Use Statistics as a Drunk Uses a Lamppost — For Support Rather Than Illumination”
            — Some smart schmuck

            • Fast Eddy says:

              More than 50% of all common colds are caused by human rhinoviruses (HRVs) and coronaviruses

              https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7171723/

            • Kowalainen says:

              Just because something is labeled ‘common’ isn’t a guarantee it will stay ‘common’ for very long.

              It could be a ripper the first time, second time or N’th time around. ‘In most cases’ and ‘usually’ is misleading.

              Not knowing should be sufficient for exterminating all known pandemics, if it is the common cold, flu or Covid doesn’t matter.

              Which is why I am for testing and contact tracing for all known pandemics. Dirty ass rapacious primates and their crowded, cramped, spaces.

              I’ve never had my face covered in mud and dirt from my cycling escapades and become sick from it. And we’re talking about pretty much huge loads of bacteria and various ‘naturally’ occurring viruses in just a gram of mud/soil/dirt. Emphasis on naturally as in whatever can be found in the path of a single track winding through the forest.

              Now try covering yourself in the mucus from a terminally ill Covid patient and watch what happens. Better even, shove some of the infectious gunk inside your nose.

              🤣👍👍

        • If it was a flu- there are those stories of of the meningitis vaccine gone awry – Accounts I have read of modern autopsies of exhumations and accounts of the period determined what killed the majority of people was bacterial pneumonia – I believe Fauci even co-authored a writeup that acknowledged the potential role of masks (as determined by doctors of the day in their “after-action” analysis) as a detriment and vector of infection (Of course that doesn’t apply to Covid as not politically expedient- lol)

  7. Yoshua says:

    Ukraine is short on coal and natural gas and could plunge into darkness, chaos and ethnic war this winter.

    Russia is moving troops to secure its borders incase Ukraine is collapsing. Everyone in the West seems to think that Russia is about to invade Ukraine. I guess that Russia might move in and secure the Russian speaking areas if Ukraine really collapses and turns violent…and perhaps secure the nuclear reactors in the eastern part of Ukraine.

    https://iwpr.net/global-voices/ukraine-faces-winter-energy-crisis

  8. CTG says:

    Please read and comment

    BOMBSHELL: Could OMICRON be the CURE for covid? Highly infectious strain with “mild” symptoms could deliver worldwide natural immunity and make vaccines obsolete

    https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-12-03-bombshell-could-omicron-be-the-cure-for-covid-highly-infectious-strain-with-mild-symptoms-could-deliver-worldwide-natural-immunity-and-make-vaccines-obsolete.html

    • Lidia17 says:

      CTG, it’s entirely moot. “They” are not going to be deterred from their vacx-passport and/or de-pop schemes. You have the UK saying testing is going to go on for a DECADE. which means far beyond the rest of all our lifetimes, using the “fifiteen days” metric.

      They will never “make vaccines obsolete”. The body-rape of the vacxines is too useful to them; they have too many juicy options with it.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      I’m not buying this…. because the original covid was nothing more than a bad flu as well…

      • CTG says:

        I agree with what Lidia17 and FE are saying. It will never end. It will go all the way to the brick wall when the curtains are pulled. How and when it will be pulled, no one knows but with each passing, it draws closer.

        I was hoping that Mike would comment on that 😉

        • Fast Eddy says:

          mike’s busy smoking meth with J’ASSinda… the commie

          • postkey says:

            Look, look, over here, it’s the ‘wicked commie’.
            Don’t look over there at the plutocrats and the M.I.C., there is nothing to see.

        • Tim Groves says:

          It would stop tomorrow if a majority of people refused to comply.

          But you’re right, it will go on forever. Because, to borrow the words of one astute commenter, a majority of people agree that “there is no harm in getting vaccinated in order to fit in with the governmental views and be able to get around more easily than the unvaccinated.” 🙂

  9. JesseJames says:

    Beautiful post Gail! You continue to bravely embrace the future and to write of it.
    Your last paragraph states the truth that no one wants to talk about, but you. Mankind (and Womankind) will always have faith in SOMETHING, be it religious faith or faith in intellectualism, science or “neoliberal democracy”. For far too long, coddled by cheap energy driven comforts and ease of life, we have come to put our faith in… our leaders, our governments and our industrial society. We have sold our souls and those of our family to be cheapened by the decadent entertainment of hollywood. This will come to an end, as the Bible tells us, and we will suffer. None of us knows the exact timeline or final consequences…just that we must align ourselves spiritually to embrace the future, whatever it may bring.

    • Thanks for you kind comment. Yes, indeed, “Mankind (and Womankind) will always have faith in SOMETHING, be it religious faith or faith in intellectualism, science or “neoliberal democracy”.

    • Bobby says:

      Modern humans ( or better term, Energy Dependent Humanoids EDH) are indeed nearing a period of enviable reduction in FF abundance. Spiritually the rubber meets the road (we’re going to be running out of these things soon too 🙂 when scarcity needs to be faced, this is the point at which adaptability and resilience emerge. Many EDH simply have never needed to hone these skill sets,. In fact many cope buy (pun intended) consuming as a substitute to claim mastery of circumstances or environment, as well as gain a feelings of control, self esteem and an image of status. In a very deluded way often the products brought and consumed could not be made by individual EDH. So the feeling of mastery experienced by most is false even if the benefits are real.

      Suffering has always been intrinsic to the human condition, even before the age of FF. The remedy is to understand the condition. To know the nature of self and essentially stop wanting. That’s is to say stop, wanting in unhealthy ways. The ‘flood stopper’ often these days, is to have so much of something that in the end you just get sick of it. Again this is another mal adaption form of adaptability itself. Circumstances allowing this condition are usually very rear in a natural ecosystem perhaps with the exception of seasonal food abundance.

      It is difficult, very difficult to undo such entrenched condition
      Going from a state of abundance to scarcity and needing to learn non greed very difficult

      Going from a state of independence to dependence, but still not liking other people very much are you .. harbouring hate are you. Very very difficult.

      Still thinking ‘I have lots of money ( ways to control other’s and get stuff) in the bank and earned everything I have…and I am going to keep it all?. Delusion this is. Very Very Very difficult condition to unlearn

      So the reality bubble of where we are at is..?

      So not so much end times, as Times are a changing. And from a Buddhist perspective if one was lucky enough to have a master to guide them, they would be likely told ‘ Much to learn your still do, my young padowan’

      • Fast Eddy says:

        You are going from plenty to nothing – including energy and food. The transition will be perilous

  10. Trousers says:

    Turning to God in the face of insurmountable odds?

    They used to say there were no atheists in the trenches.

    • Tim Groves says:

      A lot of the atheists became conscientious objectors.

      The ones that went to the front quickly learned to say their prayers.

  11. dcbdiary says:

    Gail, you have been writing the same article for the past couple of years, at least. It’s a good article but there is never really anything new, so I’m not sure what prompts these posts.

    • 1. It is an important subject.

      2. I can find a lot more readers on the Internet than I can by writing a high-priced book.

      3. The story does gradually change a little.

      I feel like I need to repeat myself because I can’t count on readers being familiar with the topics I am writing about.

      • HerbHere says:

        Yes, and it takes a lot of repetition to make a radical cognitive shift into a new paradigm with such drastic implications!

        • Sam says:

          Yes it is such a shocking reality that we have to face that the brain does not want to believe it. I even find myself seeing all the
          money and building in my area and rah rah rah talk and it always makes me question if this is really happening. The FED has been able to keep things going a lot longer than I expected but then again I thought they would allow short small recessions instead they put all their chips on one bet.

          But I am always questioning my reality…and gather information from all sides

          On the comment section here there tends to be a lot of group think and toe the line thinking. If you don’t believe that the vaccinations are bad then you are attacked on a personal level…..I don’t believe in the vax but I do listen to the people that do just to see if I am incorrect.

          The comment section unfortunately has become too tilted to covid b.s ……which I think degrades this site to just a few being able to comment……which dumb downs everything. I am interested as to when this CRASH is going to happen if its going to keep going for another five years …..ten years …..yawn then so be it…..I want to know so I can adjust my pace for this race….!!!

          • It seems your frustration with Covid discussion come from equating Collapse with lack of energy supply? Gail has clearly moved on from this with her thesis of possibility of Collapse occurring long before physically depletion of our energy resources but rather as the result of unsustainability of a self-organizing energy dissipating complex system as it approaches multiple limiting factors – a point at which a non-linear dynamic system’s behavior may change radically with little prior notice. Disturbances (such as Covid) to smooth running of such systems may be the straw that breaks the camels back OR may be a manifestation of the self-organizing system to correct itself so as to extend itself in fulfilling purpose of maximizing energy dissipation.

            Beyond that I think many here in the comments are believers in finding Truth and facing the Truth whatever it is – It is clear that many aspects of the Covid “crisis” are “unclear” as to what the Truth is – but what is certainly indicated is that Governments, Leaders & Bureaucracies are not being honest nor acting in good faith

            Here are some reports to think about and perhaps raise for discussion if you want that:

            Recent study/thesis looking at how World3 model tracks with real time world emperical data and to assess if still applicable:

            https://dash.harvard.edu/handle/1/37364868

            Here is an oil supply analysis for Europe ran across yesterday questioning if there will be adequate supply in 2030

            https://theshiftproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Study_Risk-supply-Europe_TSP-with-Rystad-Data.pdf

            and then here is a fun place if you want to get an alternative inside look at US oil

            https://www.oilystuffblog.com/

          • Lidia17 says:

            Sam, how does covid talk “degrade the site to only a few being able to comment”? Do you think Gail is holding back comments on energy?

            Why don’t you contribute to the aspects of discussion you would like to see? What’s going on in your area that does or doesn’t reflect energetical and/or civilizational decline?

            The “crash” is not going to happen on Thursday, July 27, 2022. I think most people here would agree that we are ALREADY IN IT. THIS IS the crash. The organism of Industrial Civilization is on life support. Wealth and power is increasingly leaving the limbs and concentrating in “Mr.Global’s” core. Mr. Global probably has the theoretical fantasy of being maintained as a dis-embodied head, like one of those aliens in Star Trek.

            There are other end-times predictions besides those in the New Testament that could inform the decisions of the Elders… who knows?

          • Tim Groves says:

            Sam, we are in desperate times. Rod Stewart is not going to invite Eric Clapton to his Christmas Party this year because Eric hasn’t had his booster. There will be no kissing under the mistletoe at Rod’s place unless you are triple-vaxed.

            This is doubly tragic as Rod an Eric have been buddies for half a century.

            It was Jimmy Savile who first brought them together in the mid-sixties when he made an indelible mark on rock history by introducing Cream to the Small Faces!

            A certain amount of group think is unavoidable. If we didn’t all think alike in some respects, we wouldn’t be here. Moreover, the polarization in this seeming “echo chamber” is to a large extent a reflection of the polarization in the wider world. But the fact that we can all detect this polarization means that at least two groups or sides are putting forward their views, and so this comment section is not really an echo chamber after all. And I’d like to keep it that way.

            Gail deserves our collective thanks for allowing this situation to continue, although I am sure we try her patience from time to time. In my view, we should bear in mind the need to pay her back by contributing something useful to the discussions.

          • When the Crash will happen. Good question, which resonates in all minds of OFW commentariat.

            First we need to define Crash. Is it in official GDP calculations? Is it your personal experience? Is it oil products / resources / energy per capita?

            There is this quote from Cyberpunk novel which I like:
            “The future is already here — it’s just not very evenly distributed”. When you look at some places like RSA, Venezuela and few other countries they allready started collapsing and this process will probably escalate.

            A few years ago ReverseEngineer from doomsteaddiner site organized a poll for his commentariat asking the question: when IC will crash. The results were interesting and showing quite broad scattering of opinions – from ‘tomorrow’ to ‘never’. The median being in 2030 range.

            I guess everyone here has some sub/conscious date of the Crash. We all are trying to understand reality in order to make the right choices regarding ourself and our close ones. My date is similar to average expectation of RE commentariat. This is what I told to my family around 2014-2015 that we have 10-15 years and I stick with this ‘prophecy’. The situation on all fronts – economy, financial system, energy generation, geopolitics are showing cracks every day.

            Purely energy perspective doesn’t take into account fragile social order. At some level of poverty and unemployment countries will implode and the breaking point will start actual collapse. Let’s hope we are all wrong and we have more time before it happens.

            • Lidia17 says:

              Indeed. If you are living in San Francisco, even if you make six figures, and you think it’s normal for people to be shitting on the street and accosting you and looting the local stores to the extent that they have to close, and your car has been broken into fifteen times, but you are still a good Democrat and think (as does the cartoon meme dog in the burning building) “This is fine…”… well.. guess what? …you are in societal collapse.

              https://theawesomer.com/photos/2017/10/this_is_fine_plush_dog_2.jpg

          • Fast Eddy says:

            Well… you guy right ahead and pursue a discussion along those lines and we’ll ignore you

        • holleyman says:

          The story evolves and now most can see the paradigm change for themselves is multiple ways.
          I work in oil, the oilsands to be more accurate. I see it to a very large extent now. We are patching together older equipment that were supposed to be retired 5 or more years ago. Equipment isn’t capitol replaced, less management and tradesmen trying to keep the older equipment running longer on smaller and smaller maintenance budgets. Since 2014 the expansion plans for future mining development have gone from temporary hold, long term hold, shelve for the future to out right cancelled. Our mine has less than 8 years left. So it is a race to save every operational cent at the expense of reliability and future production. I know my experience is anecdotal but everyone experiencing reductions in production, standard living and reduced future proofing creates a very real trend.
          Gail has been writing about this for a while, that is correct but with each update the story evolves and with the things we experience in our own life the story impacts us.
          That’s my 5 cents worth because we don’t have pennies in Canada anymore.

          • Thanks for your “on the ground” view of what is going on.

            The kinds of things that you are describing are the things that make it certain that the world economy is headed, in the near term, for a crash from low fossil fuel production.

          • thanks for your input holleyman, it really interests me—I’d like to know more

            • holleyman says:

              We had 7 companies up in this area before the big downturn at the cut off of QE in 2014 that gutted the oil price. Now these companies have been cannibalised down to only two large companies standing. All the rest have been bought up, torn apart and their production and reserves absorbed into CNRL and Suncor. The actual output of the region has reduced over these years and “growth” has been accomplished by letting thousands of people go, reduce most capitol spending, work existing equipment and infrastructure well past design and economical limits, no wage increases for those still employed, cutting maintenance corners (run equipment longer, extend duration between shutdowns, reduce scope of shutdowns) and collecting on “Synergies” of reducing job position overlap during acquisitions. The share holders just see these two companies growing when in fact the region is shrinking. Ottawa wants nothing more than to shut down the entire operation so now both companies want to shift focus to carbon neutral. (God I hate that phrase.)
              The city Fort McMurray once booming with all the dreams and aspirations of a large metropolis and the debts to prove it now looks like a ghost town in the downtown core.
              If you have any question feel free to fire away. I’d love to tell the stories. This whole scenario scares the hell out of me because we are being led by the nose to a sustainable future by a bunch of people who either no nothing of thermodynamics or are lying about it.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Sounds like the story is similar to the shale patch situation …

              If you get your hands on any info like this re oil sands that would be good

              https://www.oilystuffblog.com/single-post/the-future-ain-t-what-it-use-to-be

              https://www.oilystuffblog.com/single-post/chart-to-make-your-hair-stand-up

          • Fast Eddy says:

            Valuable input. As is the oilystuff blog

          • Lidia17 says:

            Thank you! I hope to see more reports on “conditions on the ground” like this, dismaying as they may be.

      • cassandraclub says:

        Yes, your story changes gradually.
        In your last posts you begin to unravel the climate change and the COVID narratives.
        And you don’t get lost in wild speculations about Illuminati and so on. Keep it real and reasonable.
        We are in for a bumpy ride. Enjoy it while it lasts.

      • Hubbs says:

        Yes, Gail, you most certainly do need to keep repeating, and modifying your analysis as the facts change. There are so many distractions that have enabled our normalcy bias. It has been coddled by decades of plentiful energy as well as a once in humanity confluence of fortunate events, especially here in the post WWII US. But now, we must confront reality.
        I was sent a poll from my college alumni association about a program in “environmental justice” this summer. I explained that the college needs to dig deeper, a lot deeper, into the underlying causes, not just being tree hugging virtue signalers so typical on college campuses today.
        My class proposes dedicating our 50 year alumni gift in the name of my class mate Meg Lowman, known as http://www.canopymeg.com. I wrote back to the President of the Society of Alumni my very blunt thoughts. Yes, I like Meg. Yes, I have contacted her about some of her trips through the Amazon and Indonesian Rain forests. I have been fortunate eniough indeed to have visited the Amazon, seen Macchu Piccu in Peru and Galapagos in Ecuador and I too have been complicit in the punishment of the environment in the process, and am therefore yet another hypocrite.
        I advised the College that instead of “celebrating and promoting”Meg’s “joy riding” (harsh, sorry) through the rain forests, and “environmental justice”the College would do far better to organize a mandatory multi-disciplinary full semester curriculum requirement for ALL students, from art to physics to economics to political science majors in a comprehensive analysis of all our problems. REQUIRED. FOR. GRADUATION. Everyone must get out of his or her silo. Economists don’t know the energy situation. Scientists don’t understand how economics and politics interfere with advancements, etc. The problems we face are very complex, if not unsolveable, both from a practical and an ethical/moral standpoint, especially the issue of population.
        Below my response I wrote under “any additional remarks.” And it borrows heavily from your approach.
        __________________________________________________________

        “This is just my two cents, digressions and all, written only because I am retired, effectively against my will with nothing else to do. I have hesitated whether to even send it. I was a dumb jock at Williams whose only claim to fame was co-captain and New England 177# wrestling champion and someone who managed to stumble through a BA biology degree, with two courses in economics, one in statistics and then crawl through a stormy career as an orthopedic surgeon -which is outlined in my book whose title I won’t disclose because the book is so dark, and so bad, only our Vin McLoughlin ’76 knows about it, and hopefully hasn’t read it.
        I would add that I later became interested in marine ecosystems as a hobby. Scuba diving the coral reefs from Bohol and Apo Island in the Philippines, Barrier Reef, Fiji, Belize, Cozumel, Trinidad and Tobago, Polynesia, Hawaii, even wrecks of Truk Lagoon. At one point I had even set up a 1000 gallon reef system at home for small polyp stony (SPS) corals, where light cycles, wave motion, excess nutrient levels, elevated temperature, low pH etc. are critical, as are presence of toxins. In Philippines, for example, run off from copper mines is problematic, as copper is lethal to corals. I even had a 40 KW backup generator for possible power failures in the hurricane prone southeast coast to keep the pumps running. I have sadly witnessed global coral destruction over the years. (bleaching= death of multi colored symbiotic algae that live in the stony polyps of corals).
        On a trip to Ecuador, I marveled how mosquitos weren’t really a problem in my hike through the virgin jungle, and the local guides laughed at the fact that I had taken Lariam as prophylaxis against malaria, plus coated myself with gobs of mosquito repellent. “The only place the mosquitos are bad is where they have torn up the jungle and planted pineapples or crops they said. The mosquitos there can breed unchecked.”
        I finally made a trip with Hank Art to the Amazon in Peru with a side extension to Machu Picchu in 2014. We discussed how intense and enthusiastic Meg’s course of study was at Williams, from the day she walked into the Thompson biology building. Hank said he never had a student so keenly focused literally from day one. I of course being the dumb jock, never said a word to Meg our entire 4 years at Williams. Sorry about that Meg. You certainly have the last laugh on that one. My fault and apologies.
        I returned to Williams October 11, 2019 for a home football game and was wandering the biology halls that Friday afternoon and bumped into Claire Ting PhD. Off the cuff she entertained my weird theories of sudden emergence of radical new species, without any transitional fossil records, by DNA strand entanglement (the inherent tendency of strands of string to get tied up in knots), resulting in physical alteration and presentation of DNA, without requiring any specific gene mutation. Needless to say, I was thoroughly impressed by her intensity, enthusiasm and willingness to spend a half an hour talking to a complete stranger about molecular genetics, and what is the real underpinning of life and her field of study-genetic modifications of phytoplankton in our oceans – our source of oxygen and food, ie., the great energy harvester and transformer/storer, whether for fossil fuels in the past or as the foundation of our current and future marine food chain pyramid.
        If that wasn’t enough, I ran into Connor Marti ’20 in the physics building. He has published paper(s) on parameters required for exoplanet viability. I had another fascinating half hour talk with him- as interesting as the talk I had during a post homecoming barbecue with my classmate Carmen Palladino, ’76, whose daughter is a PhD at MIT researching dark matter/ dark energy.
        As a result of my past troubles in the medical field and encounters with the legal system way back in 2003, my whole outlook changed. A lot. When I saw the title of the article, Environmental Justice, my blood pressure increased. There is no rule of law, and this was the overwhelming conclusion in my memoir, legal encounter after encounter, with brief reference to the corruption that extends all the way up to the USDOJ, CIA, and the executive branch and Congress. The theories of economics, money vs currency are poorly taught, or rather, students and the public are indoctrinated.
        Meg’s work measures the results of environmental destruction, but there is a whole lot more. No doubt we are undergoing an extinction event caused by man’s pollution, habitat destruction, mining, etc., in contrast to whether we are truly causing climate change. CO2 production and warming cause and effect may in fact be completely reversed. Is the earth still warming after reaching a peak around 2003? Are we entering a new grand solar 400 year minimum like the Maunder, Dalton, Wolfe, Sporer etc. of the past? The answer to this question is less clear than the undisputed effect of 7 billion people on habitat destruction, pollution, and natural resource depletion. My interest in this solar phenomenon was launched when I studied the ionizing layers of the atmosphere and how they relate to radio wave propagation when acquiring my HAM radio licenses. (AF5LQ). In my lay opinion, climate change is a trojan horse for the globalists to pass a carbon tax and secure more centralized control. Economically, this is yet another tax, or wealth transfer mechanism. Cow farts? Really?
        This new department would require heavy concentration in the field of political economy, economics, and law in addition to fields of toxicology and public health. Unfortunately, it seems that every discipline is stuck in its own silo, ignorant of the others. The best example is the economists, whose theories are based on the eternal achievability of “growth” on a finite planet, rather than models of sustainability or even tapering. Biologists on the other hand fail to take into account realistic solutions that can be implemented due to politics and money.
        How has humanity been impacted by lack of “environmental justice?” By the environment as a result of human population and activity, or by politics and money? Both, as the very title “Environmental Justice” would imply.
        So let’s face it. In the past, places like S. America and Africa were “colonized” by Spain, Portugal, Germany, France, etc. for their raw materials. What has changed? With the advent of cheap and plentiful fossil fuels that have allowed industrial scale mechanized mining, farming, and transportation, the after effects (environmental destruction) are much more pronounced and costly. China is now in Africa, multinational corporations, the US, UK, Germany etc. are still in Africa and S. America, and most blatantly, the US is in Syria for the oil. When these multinationals strip the silver (Mexico and Peru), lithium (Bolivia) and other base metals on a large industrial scale not seen in the 18th and 19th century, they leave the toxic waste product behind with huge cleanup costs for the exploited host country, double crossed by its own corrupt politicians and businessmen. Look at our own fracking experience. Fracking for all practical purposes is non-profitable, results in the destruction of the roads, contamination of the water table, malinvestment in a Ponzi scheme fashion by pension funds, hedge fund managers, and insurance companies desperately in search of yield. And much of the oil is light grade which is not even the useable mid- grade for which diesel, which runs the trucks and freighters, is required.
        At what point are Venezuela’s heavy/sour oil reserves a natural resource blessing which can in theory enrich the people on one hand, and yet on the other hand become a pernicious problem causer, acting as bait for foreign countries to install puppet regimes, exploit the resources, pollute and impoverish the people, enrich the corrupt politicians, destabilize the currency, and entrap the country in a sea of debt?
        Countries like Mexico, Bolivia, Peru are experiencing local citizen upheavals because of environmental damage done by open strip mining operations. Nowhere are the consequences felt more than by the people of China, a cauldron of toxic pollution because of mining and manufacturing, enabled by a more or less totalitarian regime.
        My suggestions and conclusions
        1.) Start this program as a “minor” and see how much it involves before expanding to a full blown major.
        2.) Be prepared to incorporate multiple majors of study biology/toxicology, geology, political economy, economics, statistics, law, sociology.
        3.) I am obviously biased, but this unified course of study may be far more practical and valuable than traditional courses/majors of economics, political science or political economy, or what I call “silo” majors. No question core subjects of biology, physics, geology are stand alone vital disciplines and exempt from the “silo” categorization. My bias is against the “dismal science” of economics, and the randomness, arbitrariness, and capriciousness of law at best, and outright corruption in real day practice.
        4.) Do not overlook the central role of energy in the grand scheme of things. Environmental destruction is at the mercy of the world’s inescapable need for more energy, whether through coal, oil, gas, hydro, nuclear, or solar. The onslaught will be relentless. Green energy, unfortunately, in my opinion, is a cleverly disguised derivative of fossil fuel and whose introduction has been subsidized by the government through tax exemptions. But when the energy pedigree and all the indirect energy inputs have been traced out, and the costs of disposal of the panels (whose life has been less than previously thought, as has the durability/longevity of the windmills,) we are looking at a much more sobering reality.
        Do the World’s Energy Policies Make Sense?

        SRSrocco Report”

        _____________________________________________________

        Dear …..

        On behalf of your fellow alumni, we thank you for taking time to submit your alumni survey. Your insights and perspectives are captured, heard and will inform the creation of a broader strategic plan for the Society of Alumni. We’ll share survey findings with you when complete. Until then, click here for a brief video to show our appreciation for your efforts.

        Thanks again,
        Kate Boyle Ramsdell ’97

        President of the SoA Brent E. Shay ’78

        VP of the SoA
        meg@canopymeg.com
        jac9@williams.edu
        cting@williams.edu
        RE: Department of Environmental Justice

        • Hugh Spencer says:

          I agree with your analysis – especially the pervasive nature of “siloing” – which tends to mean that neither the Left or the Right hand have the faintest idea what the other is doing, or even that they exist. I do fear that it is a case of too little, too late. Folks like Meg, have a big institutional support system behind them – but there are lots of small affairs, such as ours, which have none, which leads to frustration and powerlessness when faced with the entrenched bureaucracies. More power to you!

        • Lidia17 says:

          Ha ha!
          Go click on a canned video to see how much we ahh PREE ciate you!

    • houtskool says:

      The devil is in the details.

      • CTG says:

        Sam, whenever I find something interesting on the internet or personal experience, I share them here. There is a camaraderie here where people value other opinions (if it makes a lot of logical sense). To me, it is not an echo chamber. If you have worked in a large organization, there will be plenty of echo chamber, sycophants of the boss. Hypocrites to be precise.

        Collapse is a process as I have stated many many times and I think you have read it. I am kind of surprised that if you find this place not interesting, then you may go somewhere else but I see that you are here on an on/off basis.

        Bring what you find here and share with others. I am sure people will appreciate it.

        We gave Mike plenty of chances to provide something interesting. Until today, he has yet to respond to my questions. None at all. That is why I am suspecting that he is a bot.

        We share experiences here. Commenters are human. We know Ed is in New York, Harry is in Whiskey Island, Tim in Japan. These are all personal experiences that people share. It makes it a lively place. That is why we all look forward to be here. I come here whenever I have the chance and that might be once or twice a day.

        I have no idea where you stay, your personal experiences or your thoughts. All I can see is that you keep on writing that something is not right here yet you are still here.

        So, do contribute and maybe you will find it useful and purposeful

        • Mike Roberts says:

          CTG, not much camaraderie here. You keep saying I haven’t answered any of your questions and I’ve responded that I’m unaware of any questions of yours that I haven’t answered and that I’d be happy to attempt an answer if you let me know which ones I haven’t. To claim I haven’t answered any of your questions seems over the top but fire away, if you want anything in particular answered. If you don’t please stop making that claim.

          As I’ve mentioned before, although I’ve subscribed to the comment feed, I seem to not get all notifications, so there may be the odd one that I didn’t answer. The only commenter here that I’m unlikely to answer is Fast Eddy as I have a filter which deletes all his posts, though I may occasionally see one which prompts me to reply to (I haven’t seen one for several days though).

          • Fast Eddy says:

            Delete – with extreme prejudice

            mike – I will send you the bill for fixing my delete key if it wears out… I have painted over delete with mike for now

          • CTG says:

            Mike – explain to me why you believe the peer-reviewed studies so much that you believe them 100% without any questions asked? I have a lot of experience where I was told to “follow” what others have written without questioning it.

            I asked my supervisor “What if the study was wrong?” He shrugged and said “just follow them”.

            Since then, I have no trust in this “peer-reviewed” papers unless it is easily proven by mathematics. Any studies related to “data collection”, “economics” or any subjects that are just “words”, I never believe any of them.

            Tell me what is your experience. Real life experience that you have gone through that dictate to you that you have to believe all peer-reviewed papers 100% without any questions asked.

            Tell me something about yourself. Which country you are in? What is your job if you had one before? What is your qualifications?

            Tell us something that shows you are a human

  12. Michael Le Merchant says:

    Incriminating Pfizer Vaxx Safety Study Reveals 1 In 17 Mortality Rate
    https://www.thebernician.net/incriminating-pfizer-vaxx-safety-study-reveals-1-in-17-mortality-rate/

    • Tim Groves says:

      Vaxxterminations — like it! But why the double x?

      From the text at the above link:

      As we move closer to the nationwide resistance on the 21st of December, Pfizer has been forced to release safety data which should have prevented to UK’s MHRA from authorizing the emergency use of the company’s purported COVID ‘vaccine’.

      The screenshot above, taken from the incriminating Pfizer Safety Study [dated April 30 2021], shows that, out of 21,325 known outcomes within 90 days of ‘vaccination’, 1,223 [5.74%] suffered fatal adverse events.

      Yet the rogue UK Government just ordered 54 million doses of a vaxx which is known to kill 1 in 17 of those injected with it.

      Therefore, if all 54 million doses are administered, that will extrapolate into 3,176,470 vaxxterminations by lethal UK Government, MHRA and WHO approved Pfizer ‘vaccines’.

      • Mike Roberts says:

        It isn’t known to kill 1 in 17. The graphic above is part of a safety report by … Pfizer. The graphic refers to cases of adverse events reported, not cases that were caused by the vaccine. I don’t think many commenters here would believe everything the Pfizer says but an out-of-context screenshot appears to show something that a few here want to believe and so it is leapt on as proof positive of that position. Do you really think that Pfizer would provide evidence of their own fraudulent behaviour?

        Come on, you can do better than that. Check this stuff out.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Delete

        • CTG says:

          To the creator of Mike’s AI – please change your algorithm. It is getting from bad to worse.

          I hope you, the creators of Mike read the comments put in by real humans because this is totally unacceptable

          ‘But there is no harm in getting vaccinated in order to fit in with the governmental views and be able to get around more easily than the unvaccinated.’

          • Mike Roberts says:

            So, CTG, you have nothing to say about my comment above which is at least in-line with the thread to which it applies. Instead, you bring up, yet again, an out-of-thread quote, that has nothing to do with this discussion. I’m humbled that you think a quote of mine is worthy of being referenced often at random but you really ought to look back at the thread it came from as, in that thread, I gave a link to the thread that it should have been placed in and it might give you even more insight to read that famous quote in context. If you look up this thread you’ll notice how out-of-context material can be very misleading.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            ‘But there is no harm in getting vaccinated in order to fit in with the governmental views and be able to get around more easily than the unvaccinated.’

            ‘But there is no harm in getting vaccinated in order to fit in with the governmental views and be able to get around more easily than the unvaccinated.’

            ‘But there is no harm in getting vaccinated in order to fit in with the governmental views and be able to get around more easily than the unvaccinated.’

            ‘But there is no harm in getting vaccinated in order to fit in with the governmental views and be able to get around more easily than the unvaccinated.’

            ‘But there is no harm in getting vaccinated in order to fit in with the governmental views and be able to get around more easily than the unvaccinated.’

            Does that qualify as a haiku?

  13. Michael Le Merchant says:

    How Surprising

    SAGE calls for WFH and vaccine passports in face of Omicron wave and warns variant is capable of triggering ‘similar or even larger’ surge in cases but admits jury’s still out on jab escape — with Brits told to expect five more years of Covid misery
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10272001/SAGE-calls-WFH-vaccine-passports-face-Omicron-wave.html

  14. Student says:

    This is an interesting chart (page 17) from the Italian Health Service, some good data that probably Gail and others in this blog should appreciate.
    From the chart one person can see that in the period mid-October mid-November there were:

    – 3.845 peole fully vaccinated, including booster, hospitalized for Covid-19, which becomes 4.062 including partially vaccinated, against 3.733 not vaccinated (and not considering that medical terapies are almost forbidden in Italy or anyway the official protocol only suggests the famous wrong drug called Tachipirina)
    – 285 vaccinated people went into intensive care, which becomes 301 including partially vaccinated, against 546 not vaccinated.
    – 690 people fully vaccinated dead, which becomes 712 including partially vaccinated, against 515 not vaccinated.

    For a complete analysis of the benefit of the vaccines it should be included also adverse reactions and dead after vaccination.
    But it is fully clear that vaccination is not showing the positive and succesful result that politicians are promoting and, above all, it doesn’t suggest any mandatory vaccine needed to population.

    This is the official link: https://www.epicentro.iss.it/coronavirus/bollettino/Bollettino-sorveglianza-integrata-COVID-19_1-dicembre-2021.pdf

  15. Michael Le Merchant says:

    Which countries have mandated vaccines against Covid-19?
    https://www.theweek.co.uk/news/science-health/954905/which-countries-have-mandated-vaccines

  16. Michael Le Merchant says:

    Covid vaccine to be mandatory for children in Costa Rica

    Costa Rica has become the first country in the world to make Covid-19 vaccinations mandatory for children.

    The jab will join the extensive list of basic childhood vaccinations already required by law, health officials said.

    The country signed a deal with Pfizer to acquire doses to start vaccinating all under-12s from March 2022.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-59162510

  17. “Crude reality: One U.S. state consumes half the oil from the Amazon rainforest
    “As oil companies carve up more of the rainforest, a new study says no place in the world uses more oil from beneath the Amazon than California.”

    https://www.nbcnews.com/investigations/crude-reality-one-us-state-consumes-half-oil-amazon-rainforest-rcna7284

    I’m in Fremont, CA, & have only gotten gasoline for years from Costco.
    Like Biden’s folks: mouthing fossil-fuel-use reduction, then releasing oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, when the economy tanks?

    • China has been financing at least some of Ecuador’s oil extraction.

      China and the US offer competing visions for Ecuador’s debt

      Ecuador is rethinking trade relations with China, to whom billions in oil proceeds are owed, as the US seeks to reassert its hegemony on the continent

      Excerpts:

      The obligatory sale of oil is a condition of one of China’s loans, then economy minister Patricio Rivera acknowledged in 2010, amid an otherwise secretive atmosphere. “The Ecuadorian government committed to sell 36,000 barrels of oil a day to China for four years as part of the US$1 billion loan agreement signed in August of that year,” El Universo reported.

      “This is one of the issues that leads one to be suspicious of these negotiations, because once they were over, the documents were declared secret,” says Emanuele, who sees a rethinking of the debt as the only viable way forward. Investigations are underway in the US into several negotiations for the pre-sale of Ecuadorian oil to Chinese companies.

      “Eight hydroelectric plants were financed [with Chinese loans], of which four or five are still not operational. There is a reason to rethink [ties] with China and say ‘we want to have good relations with you, but here we have to fix these things’. So we have to rethink the issue,” Emanuele says.

      China is involved, somehow. I am not sure that we really know how much of the oil China thinks it owns.

  18. Mirror on the wall says:

    The latest poll shows 55% in support of Scottish independence. Meanwhile, Boris’ level of satisfaction has fallen to the lowest ever recorded for a PM among Scots.

    https://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/referendumnews/19754680.support-scottish-independence-reaches-55-per-cent—highest-level-year/

    > Support for Scottish independence reaches 55 per cent – highest level in a year

    The Ipsos Mori poll for STV shows that 55 per cent of Scots are backing ‘Yes’, if undecided voters are discounted. The research puts support for independence up five points since the last Ipsos Mori study conducted just before May’s Holyrood election.

    The study also revealed that the SNP have slightly increased their support in the Holyrood constituency vote to 52% and the regional vote to 43% while the Greens are now just three points behind Labour on the regional list.

    When undecided voters are excluded, the poll indicates the 2014 referendum, won by the No campaign 55% to 45%, would be reversed. The 55% rating for Yes is the second highest level the pro-independence campaign has ever recorded.

    The poll also found that 58% of Scots are satisfied with the performance of the First Minister, while 38% are not. Meanwhile Boris Johnson’s approval rating has slumped to “a new low” in Scotland with a whopping 80% dissatisfied with his performance as Prime Minister.

    • Mirror on the wall says:

      The latest polling in Britain indicates that the Tories would lose their majority at a general election, and they would be unable to form a government even with Lib Dem and DUP support. Labour would be able to form a government, but only with SNP support, which would entail a second independence referendum. SNP is expected to maintain the bulk of Scotland’s 60 Westminster seats come the next GE.

      SNP aim to hold Indyref2 in 2023 if covid has passed, but Boris seems likely to refuse, and it could be pushed back to after a GE in 2024, which could be the perfect scenario. The Tory refusal will only boost support, and SNP could run GE 2024 on an independence platform, which could leave them already well ahead before the independence campaign even starts. Previous experience suggests that they will use the campaign extremely effectively.

      https://leftfootforward.org/2021/12/the-tories-are-on-track-to-lose-their-majority-according-to-new-analysis/

      > The Tories are on track to lose their majority, according to new analysis

      “The probability of a Labour-led government is now more likely than not.”

      New analysis has suggested that the government is currently on track to lose its majority in a general election. It comes as the government is still reeling in the wake of the Tory sleaze scandal.

      The political consultancy Electoral Calculus has released it’s latest ‘poll of polls’ analysis which suggests that if a general election was held now, the Tories would fall 35 seats short of a majority. If this were to happen, the Tories would lose a staggering 74 seats overnight.

      Despite this, Electoral Calculus project that the Tories would still have more MPs than Labour – with 291 to 269. This is due to Britain’s electoral system and current constituency boundaries favouring the Conservative Party.

      The analysis suggests that the Lib Dems would stay on 11 seats. The Greens would still only have Caroline Lucas in parliament, despite their support more than doubling. According to the analysis, the SNP would win all but three of the 59 parliamentary seats in Scotland.

      This would mean that a Tory government would be highly unlikely, as the party would be short of a majority, even with the backing of the Democratic Unionist Party and the Liberal Democrats.

      A Labour-led government could be achieved, however, with an agreement between Labour and the SNP delivering a small majority in parliament. As Electoral Calculus’ analysis says, “The probability of a Labour-led government is now more likely than not.”

  19. Gerard+d'Olivat says:

    Hello Gail,

    1. Thank you for your cohesive article. Broadly speaking, it consists of three parts and your readers can see that.
    A rational economic argument entirely in the style of all your articles. It consists of a complex number of issues that I can recognize one on one in the French situation of rising inflation, out-of-control energy costs that are weighing heavily on the incomes of the lower middle classes, a collapsing health care system and a government that is desperately trying to achieve a glorious future dream with hydrogen, wind, solar and nuclear energy. A huge pull to the right in the political polls with simple ‘solutions’ etc etc.

    2. Then ‘the Revelations’ of John and your spiritual message. I find that a beautiful metaphor and well for spirituality the rule is ‘it doesn’t help then it doesn’t hurt’ unless in the form of sects and oppressive religious communities and churches.

    3. Then the Covid. I do have a serious question for you about that.
    You are very insistent on invermectin, vitamin b etc. you even make it a ‘breaking point’.
    From the beginning of the Covid epidemic it was clear that especially obese people developed serious complaints. The numbers did not lie. In the ICUs, 80% of the patients were/are obese.

    That did not surprise me because being obese is the direct cause of numerous chronic diseases that run out of control, from diabetes to heart attacks and numerous ‘construction problems’.
    Just walk up the stairs when you weigh 120 kilos! The average age in the U.S. has been dropping considerably in recent years, partly because of this.
    I’m surprised you never mentioned this from the start, but for safety’s sake concentrate on ‘ivermectin’ something for animals and vitamin preparations…. Apparently very important to you.

    4. Is obese and disastrous consequences that has on human health also and especially in relation to the severe forms of Covid a ‘no go area’!! for you ?
    Perhaps a message you would rather sweep under the rug for safety’s sake in a country where ‘obese’ and what causes it and which has been a chronic public health disease for decades with hundreds of thousands of deaths each year? Too close perhaps and then denial is the most obvious.

    5. Frankly, obese strikes me as a more ‘interesting’ angle than hammering on an ‘animal drug’ .
    The possibility is not imaginary that the so-called Omicron variant will offer the solution in this Covid crisis. The policy makers in France are using the Omicron variant to ‘downplay’ the Covid crisis at this very moment. It’s just a matter of a few weeks before we know more.

    • Ivermectin use is not limited to animals unless you are referring to native Africans for which a large percentage of the human population there and in other tropical regions have or continues to take IVERMECTIN as an anti-malarial (It is also a human medication APPROVED – Not Experimental – for Scabies & Head Lice in Adults & Children) – I have seen written that it has been said one of most widely used and safest LIFESAVING medications ever used in the HUMAN POPULATION – hence the Nobel Prize in medicine for its development. Dr Fauci has “sponsored” and been a co-author on studies touting the antiviral properties of IVERMECTIN but that was all pre-Covid so cannot be talked about now

      Gail emphasizes VIT D (D not B) because specific research has shown proper dosages have huge impact on chances of surviving a Covid infection.. Just in case you didnt know – Vit D is FAT SOLUBLE – so if you are obese you are likely to be deficient in Vit D – not because it isnt in your body, but because it isn’t in your bloodstream but rather locked up in your fat and of no use to your immune system

      As for obesity being a driver, I don’t think Gail has ever said that co-morbidities weren’t a concern with regard to Covid risk – which can you fix the fastest?- I don’t know how many obese people you have been around, but they dont tend to get themselves in great physical form overnight (if ever); HOWEVER they are supremely capable of inserting things into their mouth and ingesting them – Drs that understand importance of VIT D for immune response recommend obese take much higher doses than most would require to obtain the same protective effect – if Vit D saves them from Covid then they might have the months/years it will take for them to remedy their obesity

      I think most are here because they see Gail as a clear sighted, pragmatic, big picture person who can drill down into the detail without getting lost. From your post it is clear you are not so inclined or capable.

      • Gerard+d'Olivat says:

        Hi ho slow down… yes it’s vitamin D… Ok sorry about that.

        Gail is an accountant and accountants are in many ways the ‘Cassandra’s’ of our time. The advantage of accountants over economists is that they focus on ‘simple recognizable things’ and theories. The simplicity is in fact the charm of her line of argument, which consists of number of well thought out mantras repeated over and over again in time.

        In fact, the wisdom here is ‘when you see it once, you understand it’…. This is a quote from Dutch soccer guru Johann Cruijff also a clairvoyant.

        Within the context of her energy paradigm which can be defined as ‘too cheap for the producer… too expensive for the consumer’ ‘covid’ is actually of a secondary significance.
        After all, there will always be a ‘covid’. Somewhere somehow the systems that make up our global liberalism are going to fail anyway. One disease more or less what does it matter….??

        But apparently it is so important to the readers of this Cassandra site that it is really about nothing else with the self-appointed high priest Fast Eddy at the head of the troops…. Ivermectin is the panacea and eh vitamin D its adjutant…. But what does that get you in the end? That you get to experience how it ‘ends’???

        Covid is interesting for a number of reasons, some of which are not discussed on this site. She shows how a health care system is inflated and she shows how afraid people actually are of Covid also on this site…. Fear meme’s rise and fall and then suddenly no one understands what ‘we’ were so worried about.

        Just a question is ‘do you necessarily want Covid to survive’? And if so how about vaccines or ivermectin? As ‘Moreon or antivaccer with obese’? And what will you all do after that?

        • Actually, I am not an accountant; I am an actuary. Accountants are interested in precisely adding up what happened in the past. Actuaries make a lot of attempts to forecast the future. We used to talk about accountant being concerned about what is on the right hand of the decimal point. As an actuary, I did a lot of rounding to millions (or now days, probably billions) and trying to understand underlying patterns.

          I am clearly not an economist, either.

          I think (at least some) actuaries are sort of like engineers, trying to figure out real world answers to what the future will hold. To some extent, (at least some) actuaries are dealing with the same issues as economists, but coming from a different perspective. Actuaries don’t write many academic papers. They don’t worry much about choosing a technique based on what has been done for ages. They look for practical approaches that can be implemented in a particular situation. Very often, you will find actuaries who are the presidents of insurance companies.

          • Gerard+d'Olivat says:

            Gail, thank you for your response… That’s a good correction.

            I understand that actuaries work with mathematical models. Indeed, your pieces assume insightful models and statistics.
            However, health/health care and pandemics are areas of life where models work only to a limited extent as opposed to energy ‘reserves extractable or not’ etc. Indeed, there is a ‘subjective factor’ here. Americans, for example, are people who are very concerned about their ‘health’, their vitamins, germs in airplanes, hotels, etc.

            All the more surprising to me that you are treading on ‘thin ice’ where health care is concerned.
            It is abundantly clear that mankind has benefited in the past decades/centuries from the increase of energy and the associated scientific ‘health systems’ which have allowed numerous diseases to be fought, quality of life and your life expectancy to be improved etc.

            However, in the past few years in which I have been following your pieces you have never referred to the extent to which ‘health/disease/pandemics such as malaria, cholera,leprosy etc etc and more recently HIV have been a part of your reflections. Let alone that you have ever paid attention to the overconsumption/obesity that has really been one of the hallmarks of a society where ‘food energy’ is considered infinite.

            Your ancestors were missionaries in Madagascar if I am not mistaken. Their reports must surely have been full of all sorts of ‘untreatable diseases’ that many of their converts fell victim to. I know this because friends of my elder were missionaries in Cameroon long ago and report on them regularly.

            So what is the reason that after years of ‘energy modeling’ you are suddenly out of the blind paying so much attention to a relatively insignificant pandemic like Covid 19?
            After all, far more people per year even die from all sorts of other fashionable diseases of affluence, including obesity/ opiate derivatives such as oxycodone etc… than from Covid and especially from the vaccines with perhaps side effects.?

            Even the profits made by Pfizer cs. are dwarfed by the profits made in the ‘energy world whether fossil or not and now especially by the ‘transition industrial complex’? All based on various fears.
            Fear systems, whether politically driven or not, are just as fashionable as this pandemic will last….after which we will invent something else, whether ideologically driven or not.
            Frankly, as an actuary and your family, I can’t imagine that you are really that concerned about Covid? Perhaps a meme?

            Or am I mistaken?

        • Fast Eddy says:

          To see how it ends… YES!!!… do whatever it takes…

          However that may be a be careful what you wish for situation … surviving the CEP…. will not be a pleasant outcome…

          But if one Likes to Watch… this is a glorious opportunity that cannot be passed up.

        • Kadmon says:

          Your points on obesity have been well covered on this site already.

          Wishful ill will babbling or the need to be right won’t garner you much support in this realm. Gail is no Cassandra. Her posts have traction and we are not Trojan fools here. Eddy is just one of the lads and a very good river surfer. You really don’t want to meet our high priest in your condition. There won’t just be casual rolling of eyes to the ceiling.

    • Mirror on the wall says:

      Obesity is a massive problem in Britain, as Brits are by far the fattest in Europe. Boris put his own severe covid travails down to his obesity, and it could go some way to explain the high rate of covid deaths here. He would have died of his fat without intensive hospital care.

      Boris says that he wanted to be ‘libertarian’ about it, but Brits are just way, way too fat and something needs to be done. Good luck with that. He has since dropped the matter as hopeless. ‘You can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make it drink.’

      https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-britain-johnson-ob-idUKKBN2400QM

      > The British are fatter than the rest of Europe, says Johnson

      LONDON (Reuters) – The British are far fatter than any other nation in Europe bar the Maltese so there needs to be a debate about how to tackle soaring rates of obesity which cost the country dearly, Prime Minister Boris Johnson said on Monday.

      Johnson, who said at the start of the year that he needed to lose weight, was hospitalised in April with coronavirus and treated in intensive care with oxygen. He later said doctors in the National Health Service (NHS) had saved his life.

      Asked about how ill he had been in an interview with Times Radio, Johnson said: “I did lose some weight – that is perfectly true – as you do in ICU (Intensive Care Unit).”

      “I have taken a very libertarian stance on obesity but actually when you look at the numbers, when you look at the pressure on the NHS, compare, I’m afraid this wonderful country of ours to other European countries, we are significantly fatter than most others, apart from the Maltese for some reason. It is an issue.”

      The United Kingdom has one of the highest rates of obesity in the world: nearly one in three adults are obese, according to the OECD. Worldwide, obesity has nearly tripled since 1975 and more than 650 million people are obese – defined by the World Health Organization as having a Body Mass Index of 30 or greater.

    • drb says:

      I am not Gail but let me try. Your discussion of obesity is incomplete because the obese are people with dysfunctional carbohydrate metabolism However there are plenty of nominally thin people who are also similarly dysfunctional, and die of those same disease related to metabolic syndrome at similar rates. A better point would be to include all those who have, for example, fasting insulin above 3.0 uIU/ml, or Hg1AC above 6%. That would include some 80% of the US population, and some 65% of European population.

      Vitamin D is depleted by the fructose cycle in the liver. Ancestral populations have lived North of the Arctic circle for millennia, without pills and apparently without gross vit. D deficiency, solely based on eating a carnivore (carb-free) diet. Vitamin D is also a major player in the immune system as it prevents cytokine storms and the deaths associated with it. You can find a good review of vit.D-covid results at the link below, although I disagree with the conclusions as at least two of the early papers were mysteriously withdrawn, ad I have seen plenty of evidence of strong-armed tactics by Big Pharma. One in Germany in particular showed zero mortality above 30-32 ng/ml. Still, even with the limited hangouts that these papers are, you can see a reduction of a factor 3 in the health care load (cases and mortality), which makes a covid-19 winter similar to an average flu winter if just this supplement is allowed.

      Other supplements (zinc and vitamin C) have reported similar improvements independently, as zinc is a major virus killer (but needs a ionophore to enter the cell, hence hydroxychloroquine), and vitamin C helps the body cope with massive oxidative stress (your immune system kills the enemy by producing either water peroxide or bleach, and both are tremendous oxidizers). All this, of course, because a body fed carbohydrates is poor in endogenous anti-oxidants (they are used to mop up oxidative stress from carb metabolism) and sugar, insulin and leptin interfere with all layers of the immune system.

      In regard to France exiting this lockdown cycle, it is not going to happen without blood in the streets. There is just not enough oil to resume “normal” life.

      • Gerard+d'Olivat says:

        Hi ho calm down… DRB you are obviously very scared and want to somehow escape this covid crisis… Why actually. You state that the lockdowns will plunge France into blood because so you state … “there is not enough energy anyway!!!”

        Apparently you are convinced that you are living in the blissful circumstance that you will “survive” because you think that there may be “energy enough” in your environment.

        Obese has a huge impact on your health far greater than a Covid vaccine what so ever…. But eh Christmas time is coming and then that may not be such a pleasant thought.
        |Let’s just say one of Gail’s most interesting comments is the 100Watts you can deliver per hour. I know that better than anyone because I am a cyclist…. 300 Watts is about what a tour de France participant delivers in a stage. I would say buy a bike a wattage meter and see what you can pedal around!!! Good luck.

        • Kowalainen says:

          Yeah, try to crank out 300W on a “keto”/LCHF diet. Obviously you’re gonna need sugar which translates to glycogen in your blood that powers the whole shebang at aerobic levels.

          Make your smoothies pre cycling and spike them with enough sugar that your saliva tastes sweet (don’t do that if you’re diabetic, though). That’ll burn through the lard in no time.

          👍

          • You are kind of hard core up there.
            I noticed funny thing ~week ago there was live feed from world ski event in Finland and the organizer/jury said -19.xC temperature IS evidently bellow the rule book’s -20C threshold for the venue, so we declare the match go! (to the evident dismay of many high end athlete participants nevertheless, lol)

            On the Christmas and sugars, let me just chip in few silly topical remarks, it’s all about junk food after-all, in terms of candies one can easily re-balance to at least 40-85% dark chocolate products only, there are several vendors.

            And in terms of the other holiday foods, cook it yourself from decent inputs and you are going to be fine.

            • Kowalainen says:

              The pale ass hyperboreans doesn’t fuck around. 🤣👍👍

              https://youtu.be/PxcgmfaunD8

              I was commuting ~40km’s daily a while ago and trust me, you’ll need the sugars when going full gas for the duration.

              Going low fat/oils makes your insulin sensitivity maximal. Which means that your insulin receptors (muscles, liver) will be wide open when ingesting sugars. No sugar high or crash. Just energized like the Duracell rabbit. Or perhaps tilting like Jacinda on crystal meth.

              Don’t do drugs folks, whack in the oats and smoothies spiked with table sugar and keep on sending the cranks.

              🤣👍👍

      • Bobby says:

        +++;-)

    • Student says:

      Confusing prevention activity of the vitamin d with b it is a great mistake at this moment of time of knowledge about Covid-19.
      It is something by now mentioned either by pro-vax or free-vax scientists.
      Also mentioning that Ivermectin is only for animals is a poor knowledge.
      It means some superficial approach from your side, but any gap can be filled with some good reading, no problem.

    • Tim Groves says:

      Gerard, I think you are quite correct to point to obesity as the single biggest factor in Covid as well as in a long list of so called “public-health diseases”. But I disagree with your about ivermectin. It is a very effective drug for dealing with many kinds of parasites that infest humans as well as other animals, although it hasn’t been scientifically tested on central bankers. 🙂

      The point I’d like to make is that we can’t just wave a magic wand and make all the fat people thinner. Obese individuals have to make major lifestyle changes to have any hope of losing enough weight to make a difference over a period of years. However, ivermectin is something we can use today to treat a wide range of diseases. It is safe, cheap and effective. Unless you are a big shareholder in Big Pharma, what’s not to like about it?

      Ivermectin proposes many potentials effects to treat a range of diseases, with its antimicrobial, antiviral, and anti-cancer properties as a wonder drug. It is highly effective against many microorganisms including some viruses. In this comprehensive systematic review, antiviral effects of ivermectin are summarized including in vitro and in vivo studies over the past 50 years. Several studies reported antiviral effects of ivermectin on RNA viruses such as Zika, dengue, yellow fever, West Nile, Hendra, Newcastle, Venezuelan equine encephalitis, chikungunya, Semliki Forest, Sindbis, Avian influenza A, Porcine Reproductive and Respiratory Syndrome, Human immunodeficiency virus type 1, and severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2. Furthermore, there are some studies showing antiviral effects of ivermectin against DNA viruses such as Equine herpes type 1, BK polyomavirus, pseudorabies, porcine circovirus 2, and bovine herpesvirus 1. Ivermectin plays a role in several biological mechanisms, therefore it could serve as a potential candidate in the treatment of a wide range of viruses including COVID-19 as well as other types of positive-sense single-stranded RNA viruses. In vivo studies of animal models revealed a broad range of antiviral effects of ivermectin, however, clinical trials are necessary to appraise the potential efficacy of ivermectin in clinical setting.

      https://www.nature.com/articles/s41429-020-0336-z

      • Gerard+d'Olivat says:

        Ha Tim yes it is possible that ivermectin is a miracle cure… This afternoon, because the weather was nice, I cut wood on the plateau above my village of 600 hectares.

        Snow on the mountains in the distance. Frankly, energy interests me more than covid and ivermectin.
        Whether we as humans in late capitalism are always ‘conscious’ of our health and overconsumption is another question. What I did like about Gail’s piece was that somewhere at the end she pointed out that we ‘have lived in an exceptionally favorable energy era’.

        I live in a village in the Auvergne where electricity and water became available in 1970 and a central sewerage system in 2000! That’s a relatively short period of ‘energy and system prosperity’.

        Covid is a passing fancy I’m sure and it interests me very little…I have been in Africa, Russia, Venezuela, New Guinea and other harsh places with harsh diseases somewhere on this ‘limited earth’.

        Good luck and don’t get too fat!

        • Tim Groves says:

          Thank you so much for your response Gerard.

          I too am a woodcutter as well as a rice farmer, vegetable grower, fruit picker, grass cutter and tree pruner for my sins. I live in the Tamba Mountains in Northern Kyoto, but these ares small mountains only 2-300 meters high in the immediate neighborhood and my house is at the bottom of a valley only 30 meters above sea level.

          Last year I didn’t cut my own wood as some people further down the valley were cutting large oak and other hardwood trees that were overhanging the main road, and the needed to dispose of the wood as not many people use firewood around here. They prefer kerosene for the convenience. So I ended up receiving enough wood from them make two years’ worth of firewood, and damaged my neck trying to chop it all.

          I have a very handsome Waterford Trinity stove purchased directly from Ireland in 1994 from a dealer that didn’t accept credit cards and required payment in Irish punts. But the price was very reasonable. I remember it cost the equivalent of US$1,500 for the stove plus some matching cast iron piping (that in the end I only used three sections as we live in earthquake country), $500 for sea freight to Kobe, $500 for land haulage 100km from Kobe to here, and $500 to get it properly installed with some extra stainless steel chimney piping.

          I get my water from a tiny mountain stream that runs year round and collect it into a tank 30m above the house level that holds 2 tons when full. It’s a primitive system and the water is not sterilized, so occasionally frogs, worms or other small lifeforms block the taps or the filter at the inlet of the water heater. But, like the wood for heating, the water is free.

          The upper part of our valley got piped water only 25 years ago, and I opted not to bother because our stream is reliable and I have no taste for chlorine. The sewer system stops about a kilometre further down the valley so it doesn’t reach my place, but the local authority subsidized the construction of a merged sewage tank with a 24-365 blower to provide oxygen to the bacterial that break down the waste so we don’t pollute the river.

          At one time, I considered using solar power just or the fun of it. But the mountains around here prevent early morning and late evening sunshine from reaching the the roof of the house, and building solar panels high up on a hillside seemed to me an act of vandalism. So I am continuing to rely on the grid for electricity.

          This month, I am planning to cut some trees on the mountain to obtain logs for growing shiitake mushrooms. I “farm” these trees—certain oak and chestnut species are best—to the extent of marking them in my mind for future use, then waiting for their trunks to grow large enough, which takes on the order of twenty to thirty years. Often these trees have more than one trunk and I will harvest one or two trunks and leave the rest. Not every tree grows into a classic tree shape, although every tree is beautiful, I always find. And after all this time cutting them, I still feel it is a sin to cut down a healthy tree. They are not just resources. How’s that for spirituality? Did I read too much Lord of the Rings as a child?

          • Gerard+d'Olivat says:

            Ha Tim thanks for your detailed reply and your life there somewhere in Kyoto. Interesting life choice and a nice ‘filled’ life.
            We built our own house here from a dilapidated farmhouse. I thought it was extremely important to build a whole house once in my life with all the techniques that went with it.
            The village well is next door and I have not experienced (20 years) that it went dry. The water is not controlled but is as clean as tap water and comes directly from the same wells on my plateau. I am a member of an ‘energy co-op’ solar and woodchip from the neighborhood and have 35 solar panels (9kw) on the roof. Wood I chop myself and my heating is partially wood and electric as a kind of backup system.
            fifteen years ago I quit my well-paid job in television as a documentary maker and started a business in ‘recycling’ mainly used furniture.
            I sawed a lot of oak wood and turned it into ‘new’ natural oak design furniture. I have studied the possibilities of alternative energy and recycling well across the board.
            Unfortunately, it offers little perspective on a large scale, but it is very satisfying if you can use it to shape your own life…
            I regularly visit farmers in the area who have lived in the ‘quasi’ Middle Ages in their youth. I regularly write stories about their lives and the hopelessness of their toil in a time without much energy and well-functioning health / transport systems etc. How they own their own landscape and fields and how they are able to make a living from it.
            I found it very sad how they destroyed their own landscape and fields by clear-cutting, mis-harvesting, over-hunting and lack of fertilizer.
            I therefore also have an idea of what is going to happen when the ‘mass consumption’ of energy and goods comes to a halt. Just as I have been able to build up a picture of this during my ‘wanderings’ around the indeed finite world
            What is treated on Gail’s site as an abstract mathematical model is then filled in with real people and emotions.
            I therefore have a little more compassion for what ‘us’ are in store for in the coming decades and find it hard to see it as an ‘end game’ that some on her site apparently ‘secretly enjoy’.
            That is the great disadvantage of the ‘abstract models’ that start to lead their own ruthless life, where it only seems to be about ‘the outcome’.

          • i suggested once before Time, seriously, that you should write about where you are

          • Tim, very interesting thanks.

            In terms of mushroom logs, aren’t you THE same guy who exports these drill bits out of .jp – just teasing.. ?

            In terms of sewage, as you know there are many nutrients left in human excrement, so you have the space – place and wood, you can easily combine into enclosed composting pile of that stuff.. and cautiously reuse in feeding larger perennials later etc.

  20. dogmatic:

    inclined to lay down principles as undeniably true.

    sounds familiar?

    • sciouscience says:

      rhetoric:
      inclined to lie; damns principal as legal enforcement.
      found similar.

      apologies to NP FE GT et al
      I cannot help myself i am alone and concerned and prescient.

    • Mirror on the wall says:

      The USA Declaration of Independence relies heavily on dogmatism, even on supposed ‘a priori’ (without proof from experience) political ‘truths’. Humans generally rely heavily on dogmatism.

      > We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

      We recently initiated a discussion on ‘bias’, ‘trust’, ‘certainty’.

      Even if ‘truths’ were ‘a priori’ to the human mind, that would not per se make them ‘real’ or ‘true’ in a broader sense’. The human mind could well be ‘wired’ to complete self-delusional nonsense.

      In fact, political ideas have changed throughout history, and it is very bold and naive to assume that any degree of ‘certainty’, with which any are held at a particular time and place, indicates ‘truth’ let alone ‘a priori’ ‘truth’.

      ‘We hold these truths to be self-evident.’ Yes, and? So, what? Humans generally tend to assume their own correctness. That is hardly the basis for a convincing argument. ‘I just know that I am right, I know what I know!’

      All arguments rest on assumptions or else they are subject to an ‘infinite regression’ of argumentative proofs, with each proposition offered as proof in need of its own proof, and so on.

      All ‘moral and political’ ideas are basically ‘made up’, and they tend to reflect the economic base and the class power structure of the day.

      The ‘opposite’ to dogmatism is historically ‘skepticism’, which clears the way for new ideas (also basically made up, but that is how it goes.)

      • Kowalainen says:

        I think the issue is to conceptualize systems of thought into words that is equally understood by everybody.

        Is it possible to prove that the manifestations from a set of mental processes equals the subjective experience of, say, ‘liberty’? And from those project into a raison d’être that isn’t all hat and no cattle?

        I’d say that the most confusing and inflated words that exist must be ‘love’ and ‘happiness’.

        I have no conceptual framework for those. I only am aware of (sometimes mixed) feeling excited, amused, ‘normal’/default, miserable and painful.

        Perhaps I got a few screws loose?
        I admit that could be likely.

        (How does one explain colors to a blind?)

        🤔

  21. Fast Eddy says:

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1466712921266814977

    I wonder if she had the form fitting top on when this guy gave our Hayley grief… how do you act like a total prick if a woman has The Top on? Giving her a break on a 5k fine ain’t gonna get you into her good books bud — if that’s what he was thinking…

  22. Fast Eddy says:

    I apologize for not making my OFW quota today…

    ‘But there is no harm in getting vaccinated in order to fit in with the governmental views and be able to get around more easily than the unvaccinated.’

  23. Bobby says:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iCjx2ZBcXw4

    Great take on Australia

  24. el mar says:

    https://shop.tredition.com/booktitle/Die_kurze_Endphase_des_%c3%96lzeitalters/W-813-133-756

    Gail, your are mentioned in this german book about the end of the oilage on page 101!

  25. Tim Groves says:

    Catherine Austin Fitts is now living in Friesland. Recently she gave an interview to Jorn Luka in which she gives her take on what’s going on in the world. She talks about her run-in with the feds and how she beat the rap and won millions in compensation, most if which she gave away to friends and relatives to stop the IRS coming after her and because she thought it would be safer in “the people’s bank.”

    She also covers a lot of ground that most of us are interested in. CAF, as we’ve heard before, thinks that the Reset, if and when it is finally established, will be worse to live under than traditional Communism. Here she describes it as a slave system. Her name for the hidden elites who have foisted globalism and now the pandemic upon us is rather cute: Mr. Global.

    Mr. Global is afraid of people, and Mr. Global wants to build a multi-planetary civilization. Yes, you read that correctly. The sky is NOT the limit for these people. Mr. Global has been syphoning off funds from governments, especially the US Government, that had been earmarked for pensions and medicare, and using them to enrich his friends and invest in clandestine space development, she speculates.

    On Covid-19:

    “The people who most want the injections to happen are the central bankers.”

    “Have you ever looked at the WHO database on adverse events? …. You go in and then you put in covid dash nineteen vaccine and then it brings up all the adverse events? And last week it just went over a million neurological adverse events globally. And that’s what’s in The the WHO’s database. Traditionally, one to ten percent get reported, so if that’s ten percent then you are talking about ten million neurological adverse events. That’s extraordinary. …. My guess is that’s whatever’s in it is designed to lower life expectancy or depopulate or sterilize. So whether you depopulate through increased toxicity and immune suppression, or you sterilize. It looks like that the lipid toxicity can increase sterility in women, and we don’t really know about men. So whether it’s controlling the genetics or making people sick and lowering their immune system, the question is how much is it about depopulation, verses getting something in us that allows them to run twenty-four-seven surveillance, or hook us up to the cell towers?”

    • drb says:

      Just a few months on the ground in Russia reveal quite a few facts that are not so consistent with the Western narrative about communism. First, a majority of the population reveres Stalin, and it is enough to source reliable historians once you can at least understand some of the language to understand why. In Stalin’s case it was an after-war period with economic and population growth unmatched even during the best China years. Effectively, back then the USSR was a mixed system with private industry allowed in the form of cooperatives. This allowed millions previously disenfranchised people to gain a foothold in the economy.

      In the italian region where I was born (Emilia Romagna) the exact same happened, resulting in a quality of life, distribution of wealth, pollution and degrade of the land that were better than the surrounding “white” regions (Veneto, Lombardia and Piemonte). I have collected tapes about 1930s life from my mother, and you can tell that before a majority of the village lived at the margins (my mother’s family, having some land, was doing much better).

      Returning to Russia-USSR, it should be said that Stalin (and Putin) enjoyed rapidly rising energy supplies. Yelstin had to preside over a 10-years decline of oil production, with very low prices. With this provision, and with my limited sample, I can see that, with a strong correlation, Stalin’s fans descend from serfs and Stalin’s foes from some sort of bourgeois. No exception among the Russians, although one bourgeois descendant does have a balanced view. One exception among the serfs descendants is the German Russian. Difficult to pass judgment since for sure those who helped the Nazis were all dragged to Siberia as a group. War does have that type of knock on effects…

      But the point being, do not trust your youth indoctrination about political systems more than you trust Dr. Fauci. He is playing a game that has been played for a long time. If you want to state something about a communist country, go there, learn the language, figure out who are the best academicians, and cross check what they write against verbal history as reported by the people. Even in Russia, sooner or later these windows of opportunity are going to close, similarly to what happened in the West long ago.

      • Yes, that’s more reality based line of historical inquiry.
        After they stopped and eventually kicked out trockites*, “Stalinist” USSR ~15% growth y/y, and as you mentioned small private “entrepreneurship” was allowed.

        When Khrushchev got in, they socialized everything incl. small shop and services, moreover scattered into wind gigantic resources on various ridiculous mega projects, even incl. out of place (wrong analysis – taken for the ride by /foggy bottomers/) mil toyz to be obsolete next decade, ..

        And later Gorbi just pushed it into the final tail spin ..

        __
        * in today’s polity realignment = top cadre of the Green Party, Liberals, ..

    • Z says:

      Catherine also is on video claiming that the US government is involved with being able to view alien spaceships that hover in the rings of saturn and they run a pedophile scheme off planet.

      I would be wary of anything she says.

      Look into her interviews with Robert David Steele….a former CIA disinformation agent.

      • Yep, they penetrated absolutely every grouping of some potential (threat) importance. Not alleging this is the case with Fitts, but do your diligence, I don’t care about her tangent exploits one bit, so..

        As I mentioned earlier, given what is known and expected, the chances Gail is also some kind of intel “honey pot” outfit is statistically non zero, but substantially small enough, plus even if true that quality cadre of “gullible” members to hang around anyway.. worth it..

  26. Tim Groves says:

    The Saganic Verses?

    This is historically interesting footage of Carl Sagan testifying before the US Congress in 1985 on the subject of clim-ate chan-ge. And how polite and well behaved everyone was back then.

    Carl correctly grasped the problem we would have in collectively kicking the fossil fuel habit, and he pointed out that China in particular would find the urge to keep burning coal irresistible.

    But I think he was wrong about “the science” in several respects. For instance, he said “what comes from the sun is in the ordinary visible part of the spectrum that our eyes are sensitive to. What the earth radiates into space is in the infrared part of the spectrum—longer waves than red, that our eyes are not sensitive to….” As a planetary physicist, Carl would ha known that the sun also radiates quite a bit in the infrared as well as in the ultraviolet and the radio-wave part of the electromagnetic spectrum. So it could be argued he was lying to Congress about that, although a more generous interpretation is that he was dumbing things down to a level that even Al Gore could understand. (For some reason unbeknown to me, young Al’s blank face, staring intently into the void, appears at around 4 minutes and 20 seconds into this video.)

    • drb says:

      Far from me to defend Mr. Sagan (how many Carl Sagans does it take to change a light bulb?), but he probably meant far infrared. Effectively the infrared at which the earth radiates (peak is at 9-12 microns, depending on latitude, where some of the CO2 and CH4 bands are) and the band at which the Sun radiates (99.9% below 6 microns) are effectively separated. But he should have pointed out that in eras past the green house effect was far larger (like, for example, when all life was anaerobic and methane was tone of he dominant gases in the atmosphere) and yet nothing of the sort these people predict came to pass.

      • Tim Groves says:

        There is actually a very cute answer to that question.

        Billions and billions.

        I’ve always kind of liked Carl Sagan and admired his intellect and his passion. Even though he was unnecessarily mean to Velikovsky. And I don’t regard him as a total fraud in the way that Nye and deGrasse Tyson are.

        As you point out, the early earth’s atmosphere must have had significant levels of methane and a lot of carbon dioxide, and it would have held a huge amount of water vapor. I did read somewhere that the ocean at one time was at about 50ºC and it rained constantly for millions of years. This is despite the “faint young sun” (according to the paradox of that name) providing only 70% of the sun’s current output, Most of that carbon dioxide has since been converted into limestone, chalk and other rocks, and some has gone into biomass. I suppose coal could be regarded as either biomass or rock. Limestone and chalk, on the other hand, are better described as former biomass.

        (Also, imagine the moon at this time, much nearer to the earth and orbiting much faster, and with sufficient gravity to raise tides dozens or more times higher than those of today. The surface of our planet would have been like a huge washing machine with hot or at least tepid water splashing around all over the place and inundating all lowland areas with regular and frequent mega-tsunami-size tides.

        What kept the early earth warm enough for liquid water despite less insolation could well have been a stronger /H2O/CO2/CH4 greenhouse effect according to some hypotheses. But it might also have been largely down to a thicker atmosphere.

        We all know that hot air rises. It’s one of the first physics lessons any child hears about, and is easy to demonstrate in daily life. Which brings us to another apparent paradox. If hot air rises, and we know it does, then why does it get colder the higher up in the troposphere we go? Climb any mountain and the temperature falls by an average of 0.65ºC for every 100 meters you climb. Descend to the lowlands and the temperature falls. Two of the hottest places on earth are well below sea level—Death Valley (-86 m) and the Dead Sea Valley (-427 m). If hot air rises, and we know it does, then why aren’t these depressions effectively pools of relatively cooler air?

        Could it be because the atmospheric pressure gets higher as the elevation gets lower? And if this is the case, does that mean that atmospheric pressure is (along with geographic and topographic features and insolation) a major determinant of temperature?

        Sagan could have touched on this general issue at his congressional testimony, but instead he chose to focus on specific greenhouse gases, and more specifically on one particular greenhouse gas, CO2, which I think was was disingenuous at best.

        • Bobby says:

          . If hot air rises, and we know it does, then why does it get colder the higher up in the troposphere we go?

          Expansion cools air as it rises, then at the troposphere water vapour condenses into cloud. I do wonder though, and like very much your line of thought. If the atmosphere is hotter perhaps the boundary of the entire atmosphere expands into space to compensate and thus generates a stronger homeostatic regulating effect allowing the planet to shed heat. Another thought. We know melting ice endothermic ( draws in heat to drive the reaction of melting) so the same endothermic process may happen when water vapour condense in the troposphere.

    • Herbie R Ficklestein says:

      1985, Tim, best to trade your 1985 video to something more up to date

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-He9iQhlCUs

      I know, I know, 🙈

      • Tim Groves says:

        Herbie, I didn’t know you were an admirer of Guy McPherson. Well, to each his own, I guess.

        After so many years and so many predictions of imminent doom, Guy is surely a busted flush by now.

        Anyway, I am allergic to the guy. Looking at him or listening to him brings me out in hives. I have to cover my ears and eyes when he’s around for my own protection. Or better still, just don’t be there.

  27. Fred says:

    Great article Gail.

    It’s always interesting comparing your work to JMG’s. You’re predicting a fast collapse, he supports a steadier decline.

    I’m hedging my bets. A lot of critical infrastructure seems to be in bad shape after years of cost cutting and neglect with no obvious replacements and there’s the minor issue of declining FFs, but perhaps we’ll find workarounds. Yep, hope is the killer.

    JMG’s blog commenters tend to be more measured than those on here (greetings FE). Rather than hard core doomers, there’s a lot of ordinary people looking for answers.

    Everything goes in cycles and I see the phase we’re in as part of a spiritual journey – light vs dark and JMG talks about malevolent energies/entities directing things too. Keep heading towards the light folks!

    Another blog I read predicted the vax injured/coerced would be the ones to go crazy in times ahead, after the tide turns.

    Anyway, nothing is set in stone so let’s see where we end up.

    • Tim Groves says:

      The Archdruid expects that every commentators will do their duty and defer to His opinions He and is not very happy with dissent. In this, He is in good company. It keeps the blog neat and tidy, but there is little spontaneity there.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        The druid and Wolf the jackass Richter have a lot in common…

        Let’s breed them… and produce Sub Moreons

    • Lidia17 says:

      JMG censors his comment thread with a heavy hand, Gail with a light one.

      • I guess it’s a combo of personality trait and perceived economic (un)security. While Gail and say Kunstler seem to enjoy somewhat independent backgrounds, also allowing them to search more openly for desired intellectual and spiritual journeys anywhere – on the contrary for JMG as he seems rather desperate to cultivate his mini plot of followers in order to survive, hence the noticeable fear-assuming if “crazies” ever take over the blog he could be soon on slippery slope to stigmatization and possible lessened income / econ security.

        • Fred says:

          JMG will probably give a wry smile when he reads these comments. Have at it you crazies.

          Would still like to see Gail and JMG to debate the rate of collapse. How long before my cushy FF lifestyle goes belly up?

          Still time for a few more road trips across this great, sunburnt, heavily vaxxed, f–d in the head country?

          • I hear you but as Gail and others mentioned, it won’t likely be linear and predictable process even inside affluent IC countries..

            Just look at the recent msm links here, unbalanced input stock ratios in major refineries both US+EU (like ly the same in Asia), many products for industrial economy on back-order out of stock, people in swarms leaving support infrastructure jobs (healthcare, admin, industries, services, ..)..

            If you boil it down, that’s all thousands of little bruises leading to cumulative hemorrhage one bad day, .. step change .. , SNAP, .. and the next day you are trapped inside ever ricocheting nightmare of unavailable fuel, unreliable grid, way less food in shops (and ~wrong kind seasonally), more crazies roaming the streets as well weirdos and various unfortunates trawling far in the wild open..

          • Halfvard says:

            I still don’t see how a slow “catabolic collapse” is possible with the level of optimization post-modern IC has. At the end of Rome, people still had horses and mules. Communities still have blacksmiths and carpenters that didn’t require power tools and technologies that simply cannot be replaced straight up.

            Kunstler’s “world by hand” idea also seems unreasonable in a similar way. No one other than the Amish knows how to live in an 18th century fashion at all. The skills and knowledge don’t exist. Neither do the logistics to support non-petroleum based agriculture or transportation. We don’t even have the railroad tracks in the US that we had 200 years ago! They’ve been paved and turned into bike trails in many places.

            • In post (W) Roman Empire collapse world:

              – the loss of knowledge making concrete
              (perhaps with knock on effect on port – shipping infrastructure etc) but overall lesson = systemic collapse needed for evaporation of such previously achieved knowledge (and yes incl. the proviso their concrete mix was peculiar anyway depending on specific regional only inputs)

              – some pool of carpenters / blacksmith retained yes but refinement and complexity of their products was degraded by several levels for many centuries then it picked up again, besides many of them were newly incoming peoples, many / most of the ~original Roman guys perished, moved to basic peasantry during last waves of migratory waves during that advanced collapse sequence

              ..
              .

              The above explains – suggests epic downturn wave of multi spectral societal destruction.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              100%,

              We are close to going from a techno fantasy world … to one with no electricity… and it will happen as fast as you can snap your fingers…

              https://surplusenergyeconomics.wordpress.com/2021/11/29/216-its-now/

  28. Tim Groves says:

    Twenty-six-year-old Siobhan Cattigan has just joined a long list of well-known and not-so-well-known athletes who have recently succumbed to what looks like PISDS (Post-Injection Sudden Death Syndrome). But nobody in the media wants to talk about the cause of her sudden death, and some journalists are blaming vile and disgusting anti-vaxers (the Telegraph) for daring to broach the subject.

    This is what Yahoo Sport Aus had to say, with my comments:

    The rugby world is mourning the tragic death of Scottish international Siobhan Cattigan at the age of 26.

    Really. That’s young. How did it happen?

    It was announced this week that the back-rower, who played 19 Tests for Scotland, died suddenly on Friday.

    Died suddenly? Just like that?

    “Scottish Rugby is deeply saddened to hear Scotland international Siobhan Cattigan has died,” the country’s governing body said.

    Yes, it’s sad. But how, where, why did she die? What does the death certificate say?

    “The thoughts of all our people and players go out to Siobhan’s family and many teammates at Stirling County and Scotland at this incredibly difficult time.

    Indeed. But the cause of death? She is an international sports star. Your readers have a right to know.

    “Specialist Scottish Rugby employees are now providing ongoing support to those most closely affected.”

    Well, that IS good to know. But it only leaves the rest of us grasping to find out what on earth happened to the wee thing?

    Cattigan’s club side Stirling County said in a statement: “It’s with a heavy heart we pass on the news of the tragic passing of Siobhan (Shibby) on Friday 26th November.

    Yeah, well, we’re more interested to know if something happened to Shibby’s heart actually.

    “Shibby has been a big part of County for many years and will be hugely missed by everyone at the club.

    No doubt, but what was the cause of death. You are supposed to be a news agency, not a funeral director.

    “She was central to the development of women’s rugby within the club and an inspiration to the girls in the youth section.

    Which is all the more reason why the public has a right to know how and why she died.

    “Shibby was a teammate and friend and we deeply mourn her loss.

    That much is coming through loud and clear.

    “Our love, thoughts and heartfelt condolences are with Shibby’s family at this devastating time.

    Sudden death can be a terrible shock for the loved ones, it’s true.

    “We very much hope their privacy will be respected by everyone as they deal with their tragic loss.”

    Ah, so she died after being jabbed! I’m glad we finally sorted that out.

    https://au.sports.yahoo.com/rugby-2021-shock-death-siobhan-cattigan-26-230254517.html

  29. Tim Groves says:

    A year ago, this nurse, named Brianne Dressen took part in a vaccine clinical trial. When she developed a devastating medical condition, the organizers dropped her from the trial, through out her data, and essentially threw her under the bus. She can’t work, can’t get compensation, and has had her life ruined.

    Her story and the stories of many others need to be told and they need to be heard. Please listen to her testimony before a meeting chaired by Senator Ron Johnson had in DC on November 2nd

    • Fred says:

      Saw a video a while back of a baby ~12 months old who was paralysed/wrecked from the Pfizer vax. The main question was WTF was she doing getting the vax?

      The answer was her parents had volunteered her for the clinical trial.

      That just left me completely gobsmacked. That’s true believers for you right there.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Friend told me earlier that she knows of a baby in Queenstown that had a stroke — mother Pfizered during pregnancy.

        hahahaha… a stroke!… babies have them all the time… hahahaha

        The mother should be hung. Then chopped in bits and fed to feral dogs… Don’t feed pet dogs because the mother is infused with Pfizer poison

      • Fast Eddy says:

        I volunteer to slit the throat…

  30. Michael Le Merchant says:

    All LAKOTA Prophecies Have Come True – Only ONE Left

  31. Michael Le Merchant says:

    Hope it all ends like this

  32. John burman says:

    Gail I have followed your blog for several years. I am surprised that you have stepped out on a limb with your analysis of “the plague”and reasons for it. You feel like I do that it’s now reached war between the sides. We are on the same side. To make matters “worse”I also never believed the 911 narrative, a manufactured crisis. This has been going on a long time.
    I also have a medieval view that there are demonic parasites who prey on humanity (and now rule).
    Of course we are the looney one’s soon to become the Jews of our time (as you say).
    Your blog is a light in the darkness, let us use the time while we can to spread awareness and to prevent “Gates” locking us up….unless the real energy crisis blackouts get here first .

  33. Ed says:

    Gail, thank you for a clear voice amid the raging sea of noise.

  34. Lastcall says:

    IDIOT
    Immune Destruction Injected Over Time.

    I think it is safe to inject a new term into the conversation;
    Stupicide.
    The action of stupid people effectively resulting in self inflicted Suzy Cide

  35. Burgundy says:

    “If we want to choose a more spiritual approach, this is a choice we can still make.” indeed, Gail.
    Would it be the reason that you have been given the “vision” for all these posts over the years?
    If all these events have been prophesied, then nothing has happened by chance.

    • CTG says:

      Nothing happens by chance. Nothing is a coincidence. Everytging happen for a reason.

      • Kowalainen says:

        Perhaps somethings happen without a cause. The complexity of all effects might not have an easily discernible singular cause. It just random in the thermal noise floor or perhaps it is the butterfly effect.

        I don’t think the ‘universe’ make grand plans for its mindless processes. They just happen, simply is. One thing seems quite certain, it seems to abhor repetition. Repetition equates to failure in the tree of evolution.

        If there is a ‘great reset’ and I am not thinking of the WEF “reset”, but rather a total and utter extinction of all life on earth, so what? The universe is rather big after all. The process will continue unimpeded.

        Don’t be such a humanoid chauvinist. We’re just a bunch of silly rapacious primates with delusions of grandeur.

        • sciouscience says:

          seems like CTG is actually a Universe-chauvinist.

          • Kowalainen says:

            I could agree if mindless process is a means to an end.

            You know what I think? In the mind of CTG there is a desire to map apparent complexity into a higher purpose even though mindless process can create arbitrary complexity given enough time, mineral and energy.

            However that complexity manifests and how it is embodied seems entirely irrelevant. Some shit works, most doesn’t.

            Assuming ‘divine’ intervention won’t change anything. If we are bound to energy, mineral and time, so are our spiffy “alien” overlords by the principle of inheritance, reflection. If “we” suck, so do “they”. There’s no way around idiots gonna idiot.

            The safest bet is to assume we’re all alone on this rock and soon enough the rock will be without us. Not if; rather when.

            Instead of worrying about, say, planet-killer comets and various solar storms we’ve been busy with “Will to Power” and n the process of MOARon burned through finite resources in an absurd competition with the joneses. How dumb.

            🌎💥☄️☄️☄️

            (It’s the only way to be sure)

            🤣👍👍

            • CTG says:

              Kowalainen I subscribed to the Simulation theory,. It can go as complex or as simple as it can be. Everything is al illusion

            • Kowalainen says:

              CTG, would you mind to flesh out that which is running the ‘simulation’? Hardware/software specs please.

              I could stretch myself to some meddling in human affairs by various entities and stakeholders. Or it could just be for fun. You know; playing StarCraft with the PC’s. The NPC’s are just too dullard to spur curiosity.

              Proof of that you might wonder? Check out the fossil records, the human genome and the (megalith) ruins of the past.

              I’d be perfectly fine with the simulation hypothesis if a hottie alien broad would be simulated into my mundane existence. Nothing so far; however. It must be so easy to just spawn a character into the “simulation”.

              Otherwise I’m going with “I think therefore I am”, and why is there something instead of nothing, and how can it possibly work at all?

      • Tim Groves says:

        At the macro level, we are taught to believe that everything has a cause. One of the medieval arguments in favor of the deity is that it is the first cause. In Big Bang Cosmology, the Big Bang itself is the first cause, and we are not supposed to question what caused it.

        But on the micro quantum level, all is random, all is chance, all is spontaneity. The Big Bang was caused by a random quantum fluctuation, physicists speculate. It could have happened to anyone. Scale up quantum effects that alter the macro world, throw in a bit of chaos theory, and we are ready to go.

        • Kowalainen says:

          Don’t forget to slap on some macro scale orderliness. Say gravity, thermodynamics and electromagnetism to make it operate somewhat within bounds and reason.

          No items of curiosity can be found in a primordial “soup” of unbound random chaos.

          “There is no rational reason to doubt that the universe has existed indefinitely, for an infinite time. It is only myth that attempts to say how the universe came to be, either four thousand or twenty billion years ago.”
          — Good ole Hannes Alfvén

          👍

  36. Michael Le Merchant says:

    FOI request finds RT PCR cycle thresholds of up to 45 used in South Australia
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFrRbiMVkAEwudg?format=jpg&name=large

    • Replenish says:

      Higher CTs (31-45 cycles) are used in commercial fish populations for the purposes of detecting infection to reduce the economic consequences of depopulation. If you’re attempting to reach Zero Covid then a higher CT may help you rule out any infection in your population. Pre-2019 pandemic protocols explicitly stated that public health measures should be restrained so as not to cause more harm than good even for a more deadly virus. With the UN and other global watchdogs warning of drastic poverty and supply chain issues as a second order effect of the virus response you have to ask why?

      In the context of reaching the limits to growth, I can easily see how global powers and public health officials use higher CTs to generate cases and deaths to justify experimental therapies, technological solutions and sweeping social and economic reforms to mitigate a peak FF disaster. These people are only human and would naturally want to preserve their own core like a fish broker, breeder or buyer who wants to select only the best population.

      Testing this theory you would want to see whether the elite are following the restrictions in their own lives, how they treat and view other humans (usury, test subjects or citizens with rights) and what kind of infrastructure they are creating to insulate from loss.. Svalbard Seed Vault, 100,000s of acres for regenerative farming, meatless protein producers, vaccine companies touting genetic “software of life” solutions and so forth.

      • Great post, thanks.

        Yes, and not picking up on Charles specifically with his ~yeast powered Aston or Jag (past teenage gift from mommy tQ ) – just as an example, lot of these people directly or indirectly run various bio dynamic / regen farms all over the globe (diff biomes). Hence, they are more resilient in terms of ~limited economic or social (revolt) and also doom war scenarios..

        For that subgroup of ~more intelligent people that giga wealth rat race sort of ends at certain threshold saturated exhausted (private jet, mega yacht, msm image validation..) – and from that point on they are lured to this (self) doom prevention kind of path.. be it in many different flavors.

        One could also extrapolate and infer from Elon’s that the Mars thing is just a symbolic place holder to lure and activate his engineering talent pool, while it is more about setting the flag at Mars for whatever cost and use it as human legacy totem what a great feat we earthlinks were able pre collapse albeit unsuccessfully – temporarily venture into another space body like that planet. I guess he said it ~openly some time ago that extinction path trajectory (for whatever msm / PR clearance stated reason) is most likely anyhow..

        • Kowalainen says:

          Arguing against extinction is arguing against evolution. That’s a sure loser. We (humans) are embodiments of 4 bit coding sequences.

          The belief that the Rapacious Primate somehow is the culmination of evolution is absurd and an idea belonging to deluded minds.

          Two hypotheses:

          1. We are the output of ‘natural’ evolution.
          2. We are the output (avatars) of assisted evolution by aliens/ancients.

          In both cases we got no say in the matter. Either it is Mother Earth that decides or it is our ‘overlords’. All we can do is to make the call.

          1. Will to Power (monies, influence, (capital)ism, Ego tryhard)
          2. Will to Life (flowing with the drama and comedy of existence, wu wei, Taoism)
          3. Will to Herd (copycatting, consumerism, joneses envy, NPC congregation/collective unconscious “mentality”, Abrahamic)
          4. Will to Nothingness (meditation, yoga, Hinduism, Buddhism, The Void)

        • Replenish says:

          “One could also extrapolate and infer from Elon’s that the Mars thing is just a symbolic place holder to lure and activate his engineering talent pool..”

          Brilliant thanks. I enjoy your insights.

          We are being led down the garden path.

      • Jef Jelten says:

        PCR does not detect infection …period! It detects samples of what you set it up to be compared with. Lower CTs means there is more and more recent examples of the sample which MAY imply infection but is absolutely not conclusive.

        Detection at higher CTs could easily imply past infection and therefore immunity. The designer has stated in deposition that at over 40 CTs you can find samples of ANYTHING in everyone.

        • Replenish says:

          That’s my understanding of the limitations of the PCR test despite all of the factchecking articles claiming Mullis’ comments were taken out of context. The article on the PCR test fueled Whooping Cough outbreak hysteria was revealing to me. Thanks!

    • Fast Eddy says:

      False positives on demand… how fascinating… How to create a false pandemic

  37. Fast Eddy says:

    They are now blaming all the deaths after vaccination on Post-Pandemic Stress Disorder

    https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/they-are-now-blaming-all-the-deaths

  38. Fast Eddy says:

    Hahahahahahahaha…. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/some-us-colleges-start-requiring-vaccine-boosters-students-staff

    And the MOREONS WILL comply. Like mike complies… so he can ‘get around’

    hahahahahaha wise mike

  39. Fast Eddy says:

    here is hayley again… norm do you have a foot fetish? if so don’t click

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1466712921266814977

  40. Fast Eddy says:

    Team Fast Eddy welcomes on board Mike Yeadon…

    Mike .. good to have you .. really admire your work….

    What do you think of Team Fast Eddy Mike?

    Dr Mike Yeadon replied to your comment
    Brilliant work, seriously impressive. Imagine the impact if we’d each had two attempts of something like this?

    Fast says HE is flattered… HE is hoping that Geert will also join … perhaps you might mention the opportunity next time you are in touch…

    Yes I am sure Geert would be keen to join.

    Tell him we meet at the VIP Room at Gents every Friday at 6pm…

  41. Fast Eddy says:

    This is a long thread detailing Fast Eddy’s visit to the clinic yesterday. https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/twitter-responded-to-my-appeal

    Fast Eddy23 hr ago
    The scientist has messaged and says Hydrochloroquine is available in NZ but the health ministry recommends other drugs. I have reiterated that I cannot tolerate others as I have tried them — but this drug works for me so this is what I want. I suspect being a ‘brilliant scientist’ that she knows I am an antivaxxer and I am after this drug for other purposes.

    1ReplyDelete

    Fast Eddy23 hr ago
    Updated the Myocarditis visual : https://postimg.cc/jLhTcjbL

    ReplyDelete

    Fast Eddy23 hr ago
    https://i.postimg.cc/MKCGWc3b/Covid-vaccine-reports.jpg

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    Dr Mike Yeadon34 min ago
    Brilliant work, seriously impressive.

    Imagine the impact if we’d each had two attempts of something

  42. Fast Eddy says:

    Looks promising!

    Omicron may have 2.5-3.2% fatality rate
    Twice higher than Delta

    https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/omicron-may-have-25-32-fatality-rate

    • Tim Groves says:

      Incidentally, last week, remember we learned that OMICRON was an anagram of MORONIC?

      Well, this week, somebody observed that DELTA OMICRON was an anagram of MEDIA CONTROL.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        And let’s not forget to get injected so we can ‘get around’

        My buddy’s condition has worsened… ended up in hospital today … Pfizer is 100% safe.

        Pfizer is life changing … one day you are healthy then within 24 hours you are f789ed

        • Did you help him / advice on (“drb” or other) possible precautionary protocol (Vit-xyz loaded) before taking the stuff?

          • Fast Eddy says:

            There is a way to stop the poison from damaging your body?

            • 1/ under previous article there was a brief discussion where “drb” mentioned possible theoretical way how to over stimulate owns body to lessen the impact of the needle substance – was not thoroughly discussed then but it concerned the idea of attacking the devious* protection “silicon sphere” which contains the dangerous mRNA junk. It was about ~hard fasting and last moment fat intake-overdose.. or something..

              2/ actually as the basic minimal precaution people already surfing on high/er dosages of various Vitamins and key minerals (protocol) for weeks or months prior such jab-o-fest and sticking to the protocol say next 5x weeks after -> should score way better in terms of statistics avoiding both in acute and longer term bad effects..

              __
              * there are some science papers floating around about this specific delivery mechanism (silicon sphere?) where healthy immune system / body can’t recognize and attack the jab-o-substance at all

            • Obviously, this effort would be negated anyway by frequently “mandated therapies” say 3-4x per year and even newer updated delivery mechanisms, e.g. discussed prototypes / pilots of micro-dosing wearable pharmaceutic patches etc..

      • Omicron says, ‘Knock knock” … note the little South African flag on “Omicron’s” backpack in the cartoon … Omicron subsequently confrirmed to have existed in Europe before South Africa “exosed it”.
        https://gypsycafe.files.wordpress.com/2021/12/kock-knock.jpg

        Artiicle here:
        https://mybroadband.co.za/news/trending/425532-omicron-was-in-the-netherlands-before-south-africa-found-it.html

  43. Fast Eddy says:

    URGENT — Omicron “variant” likely to be man-made

    It evolved from a strain that is not in circulation as of 1.5 years ago

    https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/urgent-omicron-variant-likely-to

    • Mirror on the wall says:

      Some suspect that omicron originated as covid jumped back and forth between species. It is a ‘promiscuous virus’ that tends to do that.

      https://www.infectioncontroltoday.com/view/-you-dirty-rat-experts-posit-that-omicron-hatched-in-rodents

      > ‘You Dirty Rat’: Experts Posit That Omicron Hatched in Rodents

      The number of mutations to the spike protein in Omicron suggests a very different evolutionary trail than had been seen in other iterations of COVID-19, say some experts.

      Kevin Kavanagh, MD, a member of Infection Control Today’s Editorial Advisory Board, has sounded the alarm for months about the dangers posed by the fact that COVID-19 can jump from humans, to animals, and then back again (or vice versa), and pick up more mutations along the way. Kavanagh most recently noted this possibility in a Q&A with ICT® on November 22. In that interview, Kavanagh said that “deer apparently live with COVID-19 quite well, but, yet rapidly spread it amongst the herds. And that’s actually very problematic, because if it finds a host that it doesn’t make sick, but yet it can mutate and change and then reinfect other animals and plus mankind, that is one of the worrisome scenarios that could take place.”

      Turns out that this “worrisome” scenario might be what brought Omicron about, except the animal culprit isn’t a deer but a rodent. As STAT reports this morning, other experts have started to echo Kavanagh’s concern when it comes to animal hosts. It’s possible that in mid-2020, rodents were infected with SARS-CoV-2, where the coronavirus evolved. Researchers have said that Omicron contains anywhere from 43 to 50 mutations to its spike protein. Delta has 18 mutations.

      Kristian Andersen, an immunologist at the Scripps Research Institute, tells STAT that “I know that most people think that these [come from] immunocompromised individuals, and I do think that that’s plausible, but to be perfectly honest, I actually think this reverse zoonosis followed by new zoonosis seems more likely to me given just the available evidence of the really deep branch, and then the mutations themselves, because some of them are quite unusual…. I don’t think we should dismiss that possibility, because I think it’s definitely on the table.”

      SARS-CoV-2 is what experts call a promiscuous virus, able to infect a number of species. Most experts are cautious when it comes to trying track the evolution of Omicron, and many believe that that evolution took place in an immunocompromised person. But more experts are looking into the possibility that Omicron had been hatched in a rodent….

      • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

        Kristian Anderson was the dude who emailed Fausti with the specific steps that were used at the Wuhan lab to achieve gain of function on the bat virus which they were weaponizing.

        He then deleted all of his social media after being exposed.

        He looks like part of the guilty cohort who committed this crime against humanity along with Fausti, Robert Baric and Peter Daszak.

        He has earned profound distrust.

        therefore, another possibility is much more likely than the one he is publicly proposing.

        ergo, Omicron is very possibly another lab manipulated variant which has now been released into the human population.

        gee, what a surprise, once again “scientists” are not to be trusted.

        • Kowalainen says:

          So it’s Tony Fausti, Rob Barbaric and Pete Dasuck as the holy trinity of CEP?

          • Maybe Bill Gates, as a funder.

            • Kowalainen says:

              Billy PearlyGates (of Styx) then?

            • Maybe. I don’t really believe in hell.

            • The larger questions are still unclear.
              Nevertheless could be easily answered in not so distant time frame..

              For one thing, was it “merely” an act of direct nation-to-nation sabotage jockeying for survival – dominance or rather helped (or hoped to be leveraged more) by local faction as well?

              Because if the “WHO” as signaling, really goes forward with lockdowns+ program meant “forever and everywhere”, then it’s kind of case closed. As they all (top dogs) agreed and this is certified attempted form of CEP in action.

              And from that point on the fact Asia+ was perhaps forced to jump on the plan as well is of little practical difference.

  44. Michael Le Merchant says:

    WORLD BANK PRESIDENT DAVID MALPASS – PFIZER HESITANT IN COUNTRIES WITH LIABILITY SHIELD PROBLEMS
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/dvZNrq1CEuhr/

  45. Michael Le Merchant says:

    American supply chains face a dire threat from China’s water shortages

    “Desalination from the ocean is not a viable option, as it is a highly-energy intensive process, and half or more of the water produced from desalination can be lost to power consumption. In addition, given the current strains on China’s power grid, it is unlikely that enough spare capacity can be found to desalinate and transport large quantities of water to China’s dry regions.”

    “None of this comes a surprise to Chinese officials. In 2005, former Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao remarked that water shortages threatened “the very survival of the Chinese nation,” while planning officials in Beijing have tried for decades to cap the city’s population below 10 million due to limited water resources (Beijing’s current population is 21 million). The difficulty is that solving the water supply problem involves painful economic trade-offs between agriculture, industry and households that are politically challenging, even in a nation governed by a single party.”
    https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-environment/584266-american-supply-chains-face-a-dire-threat-from-chinas-water

    • I can see water shortages are likely to be a big problem going forward. The northern part of China is very dry. Without water, it is hard to run steam turbines. This article mentions that water problem have contributed to China’s recent need for rolling blackouts.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      +++++++++++++++

  46. Michael Le Merchant says:

    Brazil’s grocery stores are locking up their meat as inflation makes steaks too pricey
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-12-03/fish-heads-replace-steak-at-dinner-in-stagflation-ravaged-brazil?srnd=premium&sref=omvmmwIg

  47. Michael Le Merchant says:

    NEW ZEALAND SCIENTISTS RELEASE ‘NERDCORE’ RAP TO PROMOTE VACCINATIONS

    The music video directed by Matt Cooke includes all scientists dressed in lab coats performing the ‘nerdcore’ rap to camera.

    The rap includes informative lyrics such as, “Nah man, it’s totally free. Just register yourself on Book My Vaccine,” as well as myth busting lines like, “Delta will keep your dick soft”.

    To date, 93% of eligible New Zealanders have had one dose of the Pfizer vaccine whilst 86% are fully vaccinated.

    Since booster shots have been rolled out, more than 51,000 have had their third shot, which is available to everyone six months after their second dose.
    https://mixmag.net/read/nerdcore-rap-new-zealand-scientists-covid-vaccinations-news/

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Oh no… I watched 20 seconds of that and I had to stop … I was having dangerous ideas about the hack saw…

      I am imagining kiwi families gathering around the tablet and watching this … and singing along…

      Fortunately the end is not far off… extinction is imminent

      What must the other animals think of humans? Surely they see us as completely ridiculous

      • Kowalainen says:

        My nieces doge seem to enjoy the belly rubs I dish out. They probably think of us as rather mysterious with godlike powers.

        If they only knew the truth… How silly and absurd we truly are. I guess it scales exponentially with the almighty prowesses.

        Dogs do rather poorly left alone with plenty of food and shelter. It’ll go completely crazy in a short amount of time. Calhoun Rat ‘utopia’ style. As for humans? Same thing. As for our ‘gods’ and their ‘gods’. Well:

        AS FATHER; AS SON!1!1!!!1!!!

        Nobody really dares to be themselves however obnoxious that might be. We all gotta fuck around with grand plans and various hyperbole trying to fit into a divine or selfish “plan”.

      • Ed says:

        A mining company dump truck with a one third load, good acceleration and good momentum.

  48. Michael Le Merchant says:

    Unvaccinated Canadians can now be banned from entering grocery stores in New Brunswick
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/covid-19-new-brunswick-winter-plan-christmas-shephard-1.6272151

  49. Michael Le Merchant says:

    Shocker…They’re only the tip of the iceberg

    Evergrande says they cannot make good on their financial obligations and extreme caution is necessary with their securities.
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFtOMNqXEAAs4QU?format=jpg&name=medium

    • Failing debt is a big problem in keeping the world economy together.

      • Bobby says:

        Very true. So I would like to shear what happens when good average citizens that don’t have any debt, see the banking system as unstable in the current climate and so decide to take some of their money out?.

        Answer, hot off the press.. the bank tires / threaten to close or freeze your account in an email sent to your place of work for example (as in my case ) with your physical address on it, ( thus telling any would be opportunist where you live, work emails aren’t all that secure. right!!) accuse you of money laundering..and they ask you for an explanation.

        ‘What did you mean by week 44?

        Response you go to an ombudsmen and open an account with several another banks and withdraw all the rest and don’t keep more than 10 K with any one bank. Maximum you can take out without notice is 10k and only if the branch has enough cash on hand…and they treat you like dirt even if you have a good reason.

        You might recall me asking about advice on ombudsmen. Thanks for your answer BTW Gail.

        Some ombudsmen services seem to be in the back pockets of the banks, bit like controlled opposition or corporate influence infiltration of unions. Lucky for me. The ombudsmen services I sort assistance from was neutral, non bank funded. So the bank promptly apologised and kept the accounts open.

        By the way .don’t hand any documentation over to bank staff. Only allow them to witnesses it, tell them your keeping a record of the conversation and mention you put a complaint in with an ombudsmen services before you visited the bank. Don’t make the appointment before hand , then politely request the bank staff to copy the ombudsmen into their reply to you…do not be rude ever.

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