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Are we headed for very high energy prices? Or, are we headed for a financial system that starts falling apart? The whole economic system may change remarkably. For example, what many people thought was money, or a promised pension plan, may not really be there when the time comes to get value from it. Shelves in stores may be empty when it comes time to make a purchase.
Most people do not understand that the world economy is a physics-based system, powered by energy. If the energy is suddenly much less available, there will be a huge problem. The world economy has been powered by a rapidly growing supply of energy for over 200 years.
My concern is that the current attempt to bring inflation down will lead to falling energy supply and a world economy that is rapidly changing for the worse.
Everything I can see says that world leaders are not able to face the possibility that the world is already running seriously short of oil and coal. Future supplies are likely to be much lower, and much more expensive, if they are available at all. Other energy types (including natural gas, nuclear, hydroelectric, wind and solar) are simply add-ons to a system built using coal and oil.
Current world leaders do not realize that the energy situation is very much like the water level in Lake Mead. Looking at it from the top, there still seems to be water there but, in fact, the required depth is lacking. Water for watering crops will soon be exhausted. The world’s energy supply is not a whole lot different. The supposedly proven reserves do not tell us anything at all. It is the amount of fossil fuels that can be affordably extracted that is important. We have already exceeded the amount that can be affordably extracted. If central banks cut back future energy supplies using higher interest rates, we can expect to encounter major problems going forward.
In this post, I will try to explain some of the issues involved.
[1] The amount of energy the economy requires depends very much on population. The greater the world population, the more oil is needed for food production and transportation. Non-oil energy is a bit more flexible in quantity than oil, but the total quantity of energy per capita needs to keep rising to prevent very adverse outcomes.
Figure 3 highlights the fact that the period of Rapid Energy Growth between 1950 and 1980 was a period of unprecedented growth in per capita energy consumption. This was a period when many families could afford their own car for the first time. There were enough employment opportunities that, quite often, both spouses could hold down paying jobs outside the home. It was the growing supply of inexpensive fossil fuels that made these jobs available.
If a person looks closely, it is possible to see that the 1920 to 1940 period was a period of very low growth in energy consumption, relative to population. This was also the period of the Great Depression and the period leading up to World War II. Sluggish energy consumption growth at that time was linked to very undesirable socioeconomic outcomes.
Energy is like food for the economy. If energy of the right kinds is cheaply available, it is possible to build new roads, pipelines and electricity transmission lines. World trade grows. If available energy is inadequate, major wars tend to break out and standards of living are likely to fall. We now seem to be approaching a time of too little energy, relative to population.
[2] Recently published data through 2021 indicates that energy consumption growth is not keeping up with population growth, similar to the situation of the 1930s. This says that the economy is doing poorly. Supply lines are broken; most jobs don’t pay well; many goods that normally would be available aren’t available.
Figure 4 shows that the year with the highest per capita energy consumption was 2018. This agrees with other information such as automobile sales.
For example, the number of automobiles sold seems to have peaked back in the 2018 period. China and India are both reporting fewer automobile sales recently. The economy was already sliding into recession in 2019. The 2020 shutdowns hid the very poor condition the world economy was already in. If people were forced to remain in their homes, they could not take to the streets to protest their poor wages and pension plans. The shutdowns helped give the impression the world economy was doing better than it really was.
Figure 4 shows that even with the bounce back in 2021, total energy consumption per capita is still below the 2018 and 2019 values. This contrasts with the situation that occurred after the 2008-2009 Great Recession. By 2010, per capita energy consumption was back above the 2007 and 2008 values.
[3] We can look back and see how rising interest rates were used to slow the world economy in the 2004 to 2006 period, and how different the economic situation was then compared to now. Even with the rapid growth the economy was making at the time of the interest rates increases, the result was still a deep recession in 2008-2009.
It is clear from Figure 4 and Figure 6 that between 2001 and 2007, the quantity of energy consumed per capita was rising rapidly. This was the period shortly after China was added to the World Trade Organization. Manufacturing was rapidly being moved to China. China’s demand for energy products of all kinds was rising rapidly. As a result of this greater demand, oil prices were increasing between 2001 and 2007. To try to reduce inflation, the Federal Reserve raised target interest rates in the 2004 to 2006 period and gradually brought them down, starting in late 2007.
There are two things that are striking about this earlier situation:
- The world economy (as shown by rising energy supply) was growing much more rapidly during the 2001 to 2007 period than it is in 2022. All the world economy is trying to do now is get back to where it was before the 2020 shutdowns, in terms of energy consumption per capita.
- Eventually, there was a bad reaction to the higher interest rates of 2004 to 2006, but this did not come until 2008-2009. This was a much longer lag than most people would expect.
Now, in 2022, we cannot get energy consumption per capita up to the 2018 and 2019 levels. There are many unfinished automobiles, waiting for missing parts. Appliances of many kinds are not available without a long wait. Fertilizer is often not available. Broken supply lines leave many store shelves empty. It is not that demand is unusually high; it is the supply of the energy products we need to grow food and to transport many finished goods that is not available.
Raising interest rates is a way to reduce the demand for finished goods and services, such as automobiles and appliances, if the world economy is growing very rapidly, as it was back in the 2001 to 2007 period. If the problem is an inadequate supply of finished goods and services (due to broken supply lines and low wages for workers), then raising interest rates is entirely the wrong medicine. It will cause even fewer automobiles and appliances to be made. It will cause many current workers to be laid off. Such an approach, when the world is trying to deal with too few workers, will tend to make the situation worse, rather than better.
[4] The trend in fossil fuel supplies is concerning. Both oil and coal are past peak, on a per capita basis. World coal supply has been lagging population growth since at least 2011. While natural gas production is rising, the price tends to be high and the cost of transport is very high.
Most energy charts are similar to Figure 7, showing energy consumption on a total product supplied basis, without reference to the size of the population using those resources.
Figure 7 indicates that coal supplies are, in some sense, the most troubled of the three types of fossil fuels. In the 2001 to 2007 period, China was able to ramp up its manufacturing using coal, but eventually those supplies ran short. In fact, coal supplies around the world started running short. Instead of telling us about the shortfall in production, we started hearing a story that sounds a lot like The Fox and the Grapes of Aesop’s Fables: Coal is a horribly polluting fuel which we don’t really want anyhow.
To understand how these quantities correspond to the world’s rising population, it is helpful to look at consumption divided by population, shown in Figure 8.
Figure 8 shows that oil consumption per capita was relatively stable up until 2019. Then, it suddenly dropped in 2020, and it has not been able to fully recover from that drop in 2021. In fact, we know that as oil production has tried to increase in 2022, its price has risen further. Of the years shown, 2004 was the year with the highest oil consumption per capita. That was back at the time that “conventional” oil production peaked.
Figure 8 shows that the peak production of coal, relative to world population, was in the year 2011. Now, in 2022, the least expensive coal to extract has been depleted. World coal consumption has fallen far behind population growth. The big drop-off in coal availability means that countries are increasingly looking to natural gas as a flexible source of electricity generation. But natural gas has many other uses, including its use in making fertilizer and as a feedstock for many herbicides, pesticides, and insecticides. The result is that there is more demand for natural gas than can easily be supplied.
[5] Governments and academic institutions have gone out of their way to avoid telling the world how important energy of the right types and in the right quantities is to the economy.
Politicians cannot admit that the world economy cannot get along without the right quantities of energy that match the needs of today’s infrastructure. At most, a small amount of substitution is possible, if all the necessary transition steps are taken. Each transition step requires energy of various kinds. For example, a small amount of intermittent wind can be added to the fossil-fuel generated electricity supply, if care is taken to ramp up fossil-fuel generated electricity to offset the lack of wind when there is a shortfall in supply. Otherwise, battery or other storage is needed for the wind energy until the wind energy is truly needed by the system.
Thus, most people today are convinced that the economy doesn’t need energy. They believe that the world’s biggest problem is climate change. They tend to cheer when they hear that fossil fuel supplies are being shut down. Of course, without energy of the right kinds, jobs disappear. The total quantity of goods and services produced tends to fall very steeply. In this situation, there is likely not enough food for all the people in the world. War is likely to break out over limited resources.
[6] Once the economy starts heading downward, it is not clear that the economy can ever “catch itself” and start back on an upward path again, even for a short while.
Back in 2001, the World Economy was able to get a “bail out” from China’s rapid growth in coal production, but as we have seen, world coal production is no longer growing as fast as population.
Back in about 2010 and 2011, growth in US crude oil from shale formations was able to temporarily bail out world oil supply, but now this is also failing. Also, even the recent “growth” shown is to a significant extent from the completion of “drilled but uncompleted” wells started earlier. Eventually, there are no more “DUCs” to complete.
In fact, despite all of the supposed high reserves of many kinds around the world, there is little evidence that the Middle East, or anywhere else, can actually raise production much higher.
Once the economy starts shrinking, debt defaults are likely to become a big problem. Banks will find their balance sheets impaired. They may be forced to close. Citizens with deposits may find that only part of their balance is available to spend.
Government programs will necessarily be forced to cut back to match the energy supplies that are available. For example, if road paving material is not available, roads cannot be repaved. If fuel cannot be found for school buses, students may need to learn at home.
Governments at all levels have promised pension plans. In fact, many employers have promised pension plans. Without a growing supply to cheap-to-produce energy, these promises are meaningless. Somehow, governments will find it necessary to cut back on their promises. Perhaps, Social Security and Medicare programs will be handed back to US States to fund, to the extent that the states have funds for these programs. Governments around the world can expect to face similar problems.
With less energy supply available, the whole world economy that we know today seems likely to start falling apart. Fewer goods will be available through international trade. It is cheap energy that has allowed today’s economy to function. Once this cheap energy is depleted, the world economy will need to shrink back in many ways, at once.
We don’t really know precisely what lies ahead, and perhaps, this lack of knowledge is for the best. We cannot even imagine a world economy changing rapidly for the worse.
Wow…. 3 docs dead – one hospital … one week!
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/will-physicians-ever-speak-out
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I bet Normie would called that conspirasee theory.
https://usawatchdog.com/cv19-vax-lies-greatest-trust-destroyer-in-human-history-steve-kirsch/
CV19 Vax Lies – Greatest Trust Destroyer in Human History – Steve Kirsch
“Kirsch who holds two degrees from MIT, started a quest to learn everything about CV19 and the so-called vaccines used to treat it.
I am surprised to find out the actual science doesn’t match what we are being told. This is true for the vaccines, this is true for the masks, and for basically any of the interventions we have been told about. The ‘six feet rule,’ even something as simple as that, you can’t find a paper that says it’s 6 feet as opposed to 7 feet, or 5 feet or whatever.
Kirsch says, “Whenever I have an audience, I ask people, ‘How many people in your household died from Covid?’ There will be one hand or two hands. Then I ask, ‘How many people do you know died from the Covid vaccine?’ The last time I asked that question, it was a 7 to 1 ratio. 7 times more people reported a death from the vaccines. If they are wrong even by a factor of 10 . . . it is still a disaster beyond proportion. . . . I saw a tweet from a doctor saying how much longer are we going to pretend that these (vax death) incidents are just bad luck?”
A lot of people still don’t understand, but I would agree. For a lot of people “CV19 Vax Lies – Greatest Trust Destroyer in Human History.”
The aftermath of public relations social engineering show how little a human life is valued, but these type of events were happening even before the abundant energy dried up. Somber to contemplate the reality of our collective complicit apathy
This this child has put it all on the line — for YOU!!! Thank her….
Last night we treated a 7 y/o little girl for multiple blood clots in her legs, then we found more in her lungs. Now in PICU, surgery later today. We’re very worried. Mom asked if it was because of the 💉💉. I was very transparent with her. Reporting in VAERS today. 7 years old!
https://twitter.com/rnemergency/status/1549738506427285504
At least the comments on that Twitter page are pretty much calling this a scamdemic with people wising up. I’m really surprised that Twitter has allowed that to stay up. The other question is why the hell would anyone want to vaxx a child when they are technically at 99.999% risk?
Meant to say at zero risk
It’s the ‘children are a dangerous pool of infection’ propaganda meme: so it’s not done for the health of the child, but for the parents and dear bloody old Granny…
Also, to be free of restrictions placed on un-vaxxed children, in schools, play groups, flights, etc.
Shot of adrenaline?
Building permits starting to roll as well. Shit show of epic proportions incoming.
https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/us-pmi-crashes-contraction-july-worrying-deterioration-economy
@DowdEdward
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This is a Twitter thread on the same topic that Yoshua recently posted:
https://mobile.twitter.com/RaoulGMI/status/1550501090822610945
Well this is odd:
Hong Kong swelters on hottest day in history
Hong Kong on Saturday recorded its hottest day since authorities began taking temperature readings 130 years ago
https://phys.org/news/2015-08-hong-kong-swelters-hottest-day.html
Hong Kong swelters on hottest “Great Heat” day ever
Hong Kong has continued to swelter with the Observatory’s Very Hot Weather Warning remaining in force for the ninth consecutive day, with the department recording 34.9 degrees on Saturday afternoon.
https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/component/k2/1659047-20220723.htm
Notice they don’t claim it’s the hottest day ever in the current article… it’s the Greatest Heat day ever …. WTF does that mean??? It means nothing … but the title of Hottest Day ever was already taken …. and if they were to steal that title someone might decide to search that phrase and come up with loads of days that were hotter….
This is a global propaganda campaign – as we are are aware – and the MSM is controlled by the Ministry of Truth and as a member of the MSM RTHK must publish the edict … just as CNN is doing
https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/cnn-director-on-the-pivot-to-climate
Staged Incidents as the Western Approach of Doing Politics
— Sergey Lavrov, Russian Foreign Minister – Jul 18, 2022
https://orinocotribune.com/staged-incidents-as-the-western-approach-of-doing-politics-sergey-lavrov/
(( Linked and copied by a variety of websites ))
The Russian Foreign Minister covers the US, NATO’s and the Ukraine’s misdeeds over the last 25 years leading up to war today, loss of diplomacy by and democracy in the west. Everything stated appears to be correct with what western journalists were either attempting to elucidate at the time, or able to verify later.
Covered are broken treaties, white helmets (which were primarily provided settlement in Canada).
China extends property loans at the fastest pace in three years as mortgage crisis spreads
Hong Kong (CNN Business)China’s banking regulator has pledged to boost lending to help developers finish stalled property projects and boost buyers’ demand, as a growing mortgage boycott by homebuyers exacerbates the country’s real estate woes.
The China Banking and Insurance Regulatory Commission (CBIRC) reiterated Thursday that it will provide “active credit support” for property developers, so they can complete delayed or stalled projects as soon as possible.
It also urged banks to issue more mortgage loans to qualified homebuyers to support demand and prop up the property market.
The regulator said previous efforts to boost property lending have been working.
Mortgages have increased after the People’s Bank of China cut mortgage rates by two-tenths of a percentage point in May for first-home buyers. Substantially all — 90% — of mortgage loans have been issued to first-home buyers.
“The current lending pace for property-related loans has reached the fastest pace since 2019,” said Liu Zhongrui, an official from the CBIRC, at a press conference on Thursday in Beijing.
Last month, new developer loans issued by banks also reached 52.2 billion yuan ($7.7 billion), Liu added.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/22/economy/china-property-loans-extended-mortgage-crisis-intl-hnk/index.html
They ran their economy so well, for a while. But lack of energy, aptly described by Gail, trumps everything, and now they are printing just like any trashy western government.
Many of those companies took out loans in USD because of the lower interest rates. With a stronger dollar comes higher interest rates making their loans much more difficult to pay back.
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/sovereign-debt-crisis/china-banking-crisis-the-unsuspecting-world/
It was not just “the lower interest rates”.
You loaned in $USD because you would be paid back in $USD – a “stable” currency. There is no domestic currency credit market in countries like Zimbabwe, Venezuela, Argentina, etc. for exactly that reason.
Ya they pioneered the economic business model of building Ghost Cities!!!
Those Chinese … gotta give it to them! Innovators!!!
Let’s hope this pushes on a string… if the China property market continues to plunge — it’s ROF Time!!!
China’s version of “Extend and pretend.” A way to work around property loan problems, for a while.
Borrowers face huge margin calls on swap positions as rates rise
This year’s steep rise in financing costs is causing a once-in-a-generation cash crunch for borrowers in capital markets that have used derivatives to hedge their debt issuance, forcing many to scramble to find additional funds to meet margin calls they face on swap positions.
Most issuers, whether it’s banks, corporate treasurers or public sector borrowers, will swap the cashflows from their fixed-rate debt to floating interest rates. That can lower their financing costs in the near term, but it leaves them vulnerable to a liquidity squeeze if rates suddenly jerk higher. That is because many have agreed to post collateral – so-called variation margin – to their swaps dealers when the value of their positions moves against them.
One banker noted that a 200bp increase in the 10-year swap rate puts issuers that hedged fixed to floating about 20% out of the money on that position. That means they would have had to post around a fifth of their original borrowing amount as collateral. “That’s huge,” the banker said.
Such moves have been a rarity during the past decade of rock-bottom interest rates. But the backdrop has changed dramatically this year as central banks have moved to tame sky-high inflation. The 10-year US dollar swap rate reached an 11-year high of 3.5% in mid-June, Refinitiv data show. It has since eased to about 2.8%, but has still more than doubled over the past 12 months. Other developed swap markets have notched similar rises.
Those moves would have triggered many billions of dollars in margin calls for companies that had swapped to floating rates at lower levels, forcing them to cast around for more cash at what remains a challenging time for many, especially when it comes to tapping primary debt markets. That has prompted an increase in demand for short-term funding such as commercial paper and repurchase agreements, bankers say, where volumes have surged this year.
“As rates go up, these issuers may have to post meaningful amounts of variation margin on their swaps to cover any mark-to-market moves on those positions,” said Bhaavit Agrawal, head of private placements for rates and currencies at Citigroup. “Given rates in [US dollars and euros] have generally been in a downward trend over the last decade or so, this year is the first sustained episode in a while that issuers are facing liquidity outflows from the hedges of their debt issuance.”
“Issuers now need additional liquidity and they’re trying to find it from any source they can,” he added.
https://www.ifre.com/story/3449595/borrowers-face-huge-margin-calls-on-swap-positions-as-rates-rise-lbsddcqb0g
“margin calls on swap positions”
My wife used to say we ran out of toilet paper.
This kind of liquidity squeeze sounds like the kind of thing that could lead to bad outcomes, including bankruptcy in some cases, if additional debt to cover the shortfall is not available.
A little of this is may be tolerated, but not a lot.
Interest rates will fall because economies will crash… we are about 3 months away
Q4 looks to be a good bet… it all depends on if the fertilizer stories are true or not…
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I have been trying to reduce my energy consumption but how low am I supposed to go? Being dead appears to be the zero-consumption state.
When you feel the suck from moving the cranks and bland taste of oats in your cookie hole, you’ve cut the wastrel by 10. It’s as good of a start as any.
Only Tryhards and MOARons compete for nothing.
You’re just nothing to begin with.
Give it a year or two and then, slowly at first, the contempt for the rapacious primate start to grow into a genitalia of obnoxious inside your mind.
Congrats; you’re now ready for some serious mind ****.
🤣👍👍
I’m trying to compensate for the 10ish long haul flights I used to take per year….
There’s only so much coal one can burn ..
Any other ideas on how I can help fend off the ice age?
A few nukes under Ghawar, assuming there’s something left to burn underneath the desert.
That would be some spectacular “consumption”. Norm would like that because that’s sort of his kinda thing, but on a bit bigger scale.
How about building stuff nobody can afford and then simply dump it in the ocean? Building unaffordable cars creates jobs.
Another idea is to build even more expensive stuff and then proceed to either get it blown up by the russkies or having it handed to them pro bono?
Burning finite resources = growth and pollution
Let’s not be picky when we’re saving the earth in the process of projecting rapacious primate WtP.
YOLO!
MOAR!
🤣👍👍
you are not thinking clearly.
you should be trying to increase your energy consumption.
embrace the total greatness of your humanity.
burn baby burn.
be all that you can be.
Clearly food is a big source of energy consumption. You can’t cut that back too low.
Mortality studies nearly always show a J shaped mortality curve when compared to body mass index (BMI). Too high is not good, but too low is not good either. From what I recall, for older adults (say 65+), there is not much difference between BMI of 20, 25, or 30. At some point, not a whole lot below 20, too low a BMI seems to interfere with life expectancy.
The ranges are probably different for younger age groups.
My impression is that people having very low weight have a hard time recovering from secondary infections. If the lose weight because of some illness, their weight may fall dangerously low.
Animal foods tend to require a great deal more energy inputs than plant foods.
But not grassfed ruminants.
To be clear.
Only “ patch” horticulture works long term in plant husbandry. All other forms of “ field” agriculture leave wastelands behind.
Along these lines…. Here is an excellent video breaking down the issue of meat.
#meat – Eating less Meat won’t save the Planet. Here’s Why
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGG-A80Tl5g
Included: Water for cows mostly is from rain. Most farmland can only grow food for ruminants, which is not edible by humans. Removing ruminants would mean starvation for many countries where croplands are not prominent. Essentially a call to remove cattle and sheep and goats … is a call for starvation.
My vegan friends simply cannot put all this together, and are effectively advocating mass starvation when insisting we should end meat eating.
Your vegan friends are making room for us. Grassland pasture of ruminants, and John Kempf, are the future of agriculture.
I can smell the collapse of field agriculture on the northern plains of turtle island now.
If Trudeau can actually force the John Deere peasantry to accept a 30% reduction in chemical fertilizers, the economics of modern agriculture will collapse. Millions of acres will begin the return to prairie ( millions of humans overseas will starve as Canadian grain spigots shut off).
Forget bitcoin or even gold,… future transactions will be in terms of skin bags full of dried pounded pemmican.
We have historical records of bison herds 25 miles wide and 50 miles long,…. 4 million head moving like rivers over the land.
The mega fauna must flow.
Hey – do you think we might see a comeback in the bison population
Oh, give me a home where the buffalo roam
Where the deer and the antelope play
Where seldom is heard a discouraging word
And the skies are not cloudy all day
Home, home on the range
Where the deer and the antelope play
Where seldom is heard a discouraging word
And the skies are not cloudy all day
The red man was pressed from this part of the west
It’s not likely he’ll ever return
To the banks of Red River where seldom if ever
His flickering campfires still burn
can you tell us more about what you see?
What I see is a repeat of the time Rome attempted this.
The elites want to take the land from farms that are going bankrupt because production targets are tied to input treadmill economics ( fertilizer, herbicides and diesel,…. lots and lots of diesel).
The elites will never be able to control that land,…. it’s to remote, and without fertilizers,…. “barren”…. and I don’t give a “ F” if you are a Bill Gates or the Royal Bank of Canada.
Like the vast Roman latifundia the land will be uncontrolled. As we proceed through this debacle we can use intuition, historical precedents ( Bronze Age Collapse), palindromic analysis to expect what usually happens.
This simacrulum will witness a rise of the
“ horse barbarians” yet again. Call it Comanche culture reborn.
Grass will grow because the mathematics of this “ reality” ensure it. The only thing humans can do in these places is walk away or get on a horse and follow/ drive a herd.
This will happen, unless of course the old gods get really irritated and set off the Yellowstone super volcano or use some other manifestation of the hidden technology in our “ skies”.
It’s tough to make this transition before the food that is available when the power goes down – runs out… then there are the fuel ponds
Away from the equator, it is difficult to grow plants year around. Animals provide a year-around source of food. They also provide manure for the plants.
Before fossil fuels it was impossible to do agriculture without animals. In my country cows were used mainly as machines to turn grass into manure. and additionally as a sort of cash crop, when producing calves.
It is even possible to burn cow manure. For that extra energy you would need certain extra animals.
It is an established knowledge that you need to store dried or fermented food for animals in winter or less productive seasons wherever you are. A little problem here is scale.
Sure you can sit down and watch your cattle graze during summer.
If you prepare feed for winter, a lot of additional work comes with summer.
Former villages in Europe managed the harvest by cooperative scheduling of the fields. You could also do that with “slaves” you bought up from the empoverished for whom you managed to keep them away from cooperation.
Once a certain amount of ponerology is in your communinty it is very difficult to get rid of it.
To fight evil you need to be even more evil, eh ?
There is really no point in making personal cuts if you don’t have to. The problem isn’t you as an individual.
Think through what would happen if the world reduced energy consumption – think long and hard.
If you cut, someone else will take your place.
Quitting your job ultimately reduces your share of the output of the economy. But if someone else takes the job, the output of the economy remains the same.
Whether one cuts or not, the self organizing system and a higher power (however they relate) are presumably always at work, always making a difference. If so, how, when and why the cut matter. There probably is no inflexible rule (outside of human experience) about the subject.
Cut your food consumption in half. So you are not overweight. 2k daily
Cut your driving in half by using google tracking. Don’t fill up your tank all the way. It’s like a shampoo bottle. The more you have the more you’ll use. (this overcomes Jevon’s paradox”
Live close to everything you need.
Cut your electric in half by not using TV very often. No AC either.
You cannot cheat Jevon – if you cut – I increase.
And that is crucial cuz if too many people cut guess what happens
TV doesnt use much, especially if you have a smallish flatscreen, Not that I watch TV.
”Bavarian Nordic monkeypox vaccine gets preliminary nod from EU drug regulator’
and the same time:
‘WHO declares Monkeypox global emergency”
– mmmh, new launch of vaccines for Covid have been postponed to 2024, what do we have ready?
– Monkeypox ones !
– Ok, let’s start the emergency!
– But, we promised to change the name!
– No problem, go on anyway, they don’t remember anything! Just don’t mention it again…
🙂
https://www.ft.com/content/f2765c69-9e82-4b64-9654-3f95f6c4b2ec
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/bavarian-nordic-monkeypox-vaccine-gets-preliminary-nod-eu-drug-regulator-2022-07-22/
https://www.adnkronos.com/vaiolo-scimmie-oms-e-emergenza-sanitaria-globale_3uC8aR706qSmyxR1u8igLL
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-06-13/who-weighs-renaming-monkeypox-virus-to-minimize-stigma-racism
Something to help out the vaccine industry.
Novavax magic potion was denied by EMA (my final report was read by the regulator it seems) but granted green light from fda for use in adults and kids (fda don’t like reading reports from Eastern Europeans i guess).
Why shouldn’t Novavax be used?
Do you write this blog? He’s a cat person too https://boriquagato.substack.com/
It’s very good
Where do you see reference to launch of new COVID vaccines delayed until 2024?
Inside the article of FT, the fist link of the above 4 ones I posted.
I’m sorry I cannot post the full article, maybe someone can find an ‘archive’ link or something.
But I also read in other websites that new versions of Covid vaccines will be much probably delayed in 2024, becasue of current low demand for Covid vaccines and still very high presence in warehouses of each Country..
As for instance it is mentioned also here: https://seekingalpha.com/news/3857967-pfizerbiontech-and-eu-to-reschedule-covid-vaccine-deliveries-to-2024-ft
And it is also very interesting to see (as you mentioned above about the business) that:
”Israel ups monkeypox vaccine shipment to 5K after WHO declaration.
The original agreed-upon shipment of 2,000 vaccines was more than doubled on Horowitz’s request.”
https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-712874
Fast Eddie…more on the Moon Landing in this video… Movie Capricorn One and how the it was faked
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AvHKnR6OukI&t=498s
Commentator claims otherwise…
“Solid oxide fuel cell”?
Is this just another way of burning fossil fuel?
“Multi-Gigawatt Factory Opens In Fremont
“Bloom Energy on Wednesday announced the grand opening of its multi-gigawatt Fremont manufacturing plant.”
https://patch.com/california/fremont/multi-gigawatt-factory-opens-fremont
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_oxide_fuel_cell
Link to Harry’s current economic links. (Consider supporting Harry financially. Perhaps he could use assistance.)
https://climateandeconomy.com/2022/07/23/23rd-july-2022-todays-round-up-of-economic-news/
You mean Harry from ofw, the Harry McGibbs right? I looked over the link and found that he uses patreon for donations. I’d advise him to create a revolute account. If he does i will be the firat to wire him 50 dollars.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/RaoulGMI/status/1550501090822610945
We are in a recession…forward looking we will enter a depression
Lots of things going together, showing that the economy is in serious trouble!
“when we use more forward-looking indicators, things get real ugly… fast”
”GERMANY, SERIOUS ADVERSE EFFECTS FROM COVID VACCINES:
HEALTH MINISTRY PUBLISHES INCORRECT DATA
According to the Paul Ehrlich Institute, the risk of adverse effects from the vaccination is higher than the Ministry of Health stated.
Karl Lauterbach’s authorities have now corrected themselves.”
https://comedonchisciotte.org/germania-effetti-collaterali-gravi-da-vaccino-anti-covid-il-ministero-della-salute-pubblica-dati-errati/
And twitter tried to define the content of the real data as misleading…
when does this stat sheet include norm https://t.me/arkmedic/4378
Norman Paget was member in League of Ovaltineys in 1930s, front organization for children of elders of British Empire. Drinking Ovaltine as boy has given him super powers and immortality. He is allowed privileged access to secret time machines.
https://i.pinimg.com/564x/d5/97/11/d59711de1fc1f74c1cbc0d9c41ab1b15.jpg
Hear Mr Paget sing in 1930s propaganda song. Listen to first minute and 33 seconds.
I’m afraid that does explain the mentality of dear old Norman, and the naivety of so many older Brits.
The state might produce cheesy propaganda, but would never, ever, plot to kill you, and all the ‘happy little girls and boys’…..
“There won’t be enough copper to meet climate goals, study indicates” ?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/there-won-t-be-enough-copper-to-meet-climate-goals-study-indicates/ar-AAZFzz0?ocid=BingHp01&cvid=8237b7bae903451cc573554db858ae90
Simon Michaux has been beating that drum about mining, ore grades, and minerals for some time:
https://youtu.be/JRGVqBScBRE?t=160
https://youtu.be/JRGVqBScBRE?t=860
I agree. Particularly relevant is the slide where to the left you see a 13 tons copper nugget found in Alaska in 1903, and to the right the 10 microns copper grains embedded in rock, that are harvested by grinding the rock and leaching it chemically. eroei at work!
Those two images are actually separated by a few slides, in the 14:51 talk.
It seems as though a lot of people trying to solve the energy problem assumed that even if fossil fuels were in short supply, other minerals would have huge supply. But supply has depleted badly on a lot of minerals, as Simon Michaux’s research shows.
Leo will be pleased that he found enough concrete to build his sea level concrete eco hotel
Please re-use your towels for your entire stay if you decide to fly to Belize then take the power boat to the sea level Utopia
https://cdn-image.travelandleisure.com/sites/default/files/styles/1600×1000/public/leo0415-resort.jpg
Surely this is an actor – this can’t be a real functioning person – can it????
https://t.me/TommyRobinsonNews/37697
Twitter deletes post of German Minister of Health…
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/356900
But data are here:
https://www.pei.de/DE/newsroom/dossier/coronavirus/coronavirus-inhalt.html;jsessionid=2D3F68C61911D3889D61C9774916ED26.intranet222?nn=169730&cms_pos=6
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4125239
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/355426
We should thank Times of Israel because it clearly explains the shift of US administration ‘narrative’.
As someone can remember I guessed it was probably like that…
”Biden: ‘I feel much better than I sound’; White House says his COVID symptoms easing
US tries to shift narrative to display of president as personification of idea that most can get virus and recover if they’re vaccinated and take other steps to protect themselves.
[…] ”The administration is trying to shift the narrative from a health scare to a display of Biden as the personification of the idea that most Americans can get COVID and recover without too much suffering and disruption if they’ve gotten their shots and taken other important steps to protect themselves.”
https://www.timesofisrael.com/biden-i-feel-much-better-than-i-sound-white-house-says-his-covid-symptoms-easing/
https://ourfiniteworld.com/2022/07/05/why-raising-interest-rates-to-reduce-inflation-may-work-out-very-badly/comment-page-16/#comment-379048
An important point, Student.
Well, they imply can’t cover up the overwhelming evidence for repeated re-infections f the vaxxed any longer, but the conclusion will always be: ‘Wear a mask and take boosters, or die !’
I fear millions will still swallow the new lie…..
Yes, you are right, but, in my view, it will be a phenomenon that will affect the so called ‘western world’ (US, UK, Europe, Canada, Australia, New Zealand…) and with fewer and fewer people following that screenplay inside of ‘that world’.
In addition, in my view, probably also South America, Russia, China, India and middle east Countries (except Israel) will be out of that screenplay.
We thought we might have it easier in the Core: but no, we are now the principal targets, it seems…
it is possible those in the periphery will experience a fair bit of ROF… they don’t really have the means to enforce the lockdowns and Holodomor
A local policeman said to my cousin in Catalonia in 2020:
‘I hope you all obey, we don’t have the manpower to keep you in or arrest you if you don’t!’
So, they need psychological means to achieve this – hence getting people trained to be brainwashed by the manipulation of social media.
If you need a chuckle, go to zerohedge, where this very article has been reposted, and look at the comments.
In this tiny island of Britain there is an estimated 500 years coal supply. Coal mining here stopped decades ago and is now seen as the Wicked Witch of all things carbon so will never be allowed to be mined again (despite modern technology that can remove a large amount of chimney particulates from coal powered electricity stations). The landmass of the UK fits into Canada over 44 times, so how much coal is lying underground in Canada and the USA?
We aren’t running out of anything other than common sense.
This is the kind of moron who posts on Zero Hedge. After over 200 years of intensive coal mining in all parts of the country and a coal production peak in 1913, the UK has 500 years of coal somewhere.
For unknown reasons the government would rather allow the country to collapse than allow anyone to mine this coal. Coal mining only stopped in the UK because people thought coal was bad, not because the mines were exhausted. It’s not clear how this explains the 1913 production peak and decline because nobody thought coal was bad in 1913 and especially they didn’t during the World Wars.
Unbelievably retarded.
Thank you for making the point. Other comments were at that level. and of course I want to see the coal powered tractor and the coal derived urea. Particularly bad are the abiotic oil crowd, not because the theory has no merit, but for their penchant for disappearing when asked why Pennsylvania (or other early fields) is not replenishing.
This is identical to the crowds of “safe and effective”, “my body my choice but only for abortion”. They will never debate you
Funny how these MOERONS don’t consider the unborn child has a body … and should also have a choice… oh that doesn’t count…
If I was running the anti abortion movement – I’d have campaigns running accusing the mothers who kill their babies of murder… Tag line – Baby Killers! with a photo of them alongside Pol Pot or maybe the devil…
Imagine the mental illness that this would provoke hahaha…
Keep in mind I support aborting the human species so I am on the pro choice side
China has been using coal to produce urea. But it is running short of coal, also.
The PR Team has done a great job with the MOREONS on the energy issues.
It would suck if most of them knew what we know
The site is being run by the son of failed bulgarian spy who traded himself to the cia after the commjes fall in 1989. This guy also runs yellow paper about aliens and reptiles in Bulgaria.
Lots of finance people read it regularly — Ed Dowd references it frequently on his Telegram
ZH or whatever websites. Read all of them but use critical thinking to filter through. You can Mearns many things.
Wait till VAIDS becomes more of a thing … and the new mutations smash into the VAIDsies!
Covid death rates have reached record highs in New Zealand as the country faces a new Omicron wave, despite high levels of vaccination. MailOnline has the story.
Weekly virus fatalities hit 151 in the seven days ending July 16th, compared to 115 in the worst week of the previous flare-up in March, according to Health Ministry data. It means the country’s current mortality rate is twice as high as the U.K.’s and four times higher than the U.S.
In the latest 24 hours, all 26 Covid deaths occurred among over-60s — the group known to be most vulnerable to the virus.
Omicron sub-variant BA.5 is driving the current wave. Another 64,780 cases were confirmed last week, although authorities say the true figure will be much higher.
Experts told MailOnline that previously low levels of infection in New Zealand due to strict Covid curbs is behind the high fatality rate now because the economically-crippling measures only delayed “inevitable” infections that could have built-up immunity.
https://dailysceptic.org/2022/07/22/new-zealand-covid-deaths-soar-to-record-high/
https://dailysceptic.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/image-71.png
Vatican coin commemorates Covid vaccine –
https://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=55188
Does this seem bizarre to anyone?
In Davos, the Vatican representative said they are on board with the WEF. After the satanic Nativity in Saint Peter in 2020, I thought the sky is the limit with these guys. And so it was.
I think it’s an indication that the global “vaccine” rollout is of far greater significance than the public has been told.
TOTAL CONSENSUS.
Which indicates they fear something so much that they’d choose to inject and kill babies …
What could they fear? Could it be ROF – as in when the energy situation reaches a tipping point – and it WILL at some point — the financial system comes crashing down — the power goes off – the supply chains halt – and people come onto the streets – in the dark – seriously pissed off – seriously desperate for food — and all hell breaks loose.
And they go looking for folks to blame – the wealthy – the politicians – the bankers – the elders — they start with them – skinning them – raping them — eating them … then they start into one another.
The ends justifies the means. Extermination is the end game. Extinction. It prevents ROF.
UEP. The only real option they have https://www.headsupster.com/forumthread?shortId=220
I certainly tend to agree with FE that in the event of very serious shortages and outages (engineered or not) only the paralysing fear of a deadly viral contagion would be sufficient to keep people off the streets (whether raiding neighbours and shops for food and drink, or attacking elites) – police and army alone can’t do that.
It’s a supremely useful tool to have in the kitbag for population control, at the very least – not necessarily ‘global Holodomor’.
Let’s imagine my neighour with 6 children: he needs to feed them, but if he comes to me to ask for help, or rob me, he risks killing himself, the wife and kids anyway – so he stays inside and hopes things get better, until he is too weak to act…..
Remember George Orwell, They already have a blueprint on what to do and crowd control by the Irish Famine.
Not too difficult…have food banks and once it runs out out in one location direct the hungry to another.
Of course, once they arrive only to find out that location just ran out of food baskets too.
The old run-around…
Posted that there are pilot programs being tested for UBI here in the States…
That with rationing will buy some time to wear out and weaken people…illness will follow ..FE Triumphs..
Everyone knows UEP is our destiny…. it’s obvious…
But most will resist … it’s too dark.
ROF is darker though – if it makes anyone feel better
Ok I know what UEP is lol…what is ROF?
It’s the plan https://www.headsupster.com/forumthread?shortId=220
It’s a parody of the Holy Trinity:
‘The Doctor, the Injector and the Vaxxed, for ever and ever, amen!
A very unholy trinity.
Most unholy! In fact, Satanic inversion, eg the ‘Black Mass’.
It derives magical and psychologically-suggestive power from the original.
I think you are correct.
UK Government confirms the Triple / Quadruple jabbed account for 91% of all Covid Deaths since the beginning of 2022
https://expose-news.com/2022/07/22/uk-gov-confirms-91percent-covid-deaths-triple-vaccinated/
Australia is seeing higher rates (per 1M population) of hospitalization in those with more doses received 🤔
Source: https://twitter.com/lchf_matt/status/1549974053766606850
Dashboard: https://bit.ly/3ujYTQG
Nurse https://t.me/chiefnerd/4207
What’s next – tranny strippers?
Tax Dollars Hard at Work to Entertain European Members of Parliament With Interpretive Dance
While millions of European citizens struggle to make ends meet and face a looming food crisis, politicians laugh at your suffering and waste the money away.
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https://t.me/robinmg/21719 GREEN looks like this
The trend in deaths by number of vaccine doses in this link is certainly concerning: https://expose-news.com/2022/07/22/uk-gov-confirms-91percent-covid-deaths-triple-vaccinated/
This cartoon is cute, and it doesn’t seem to really need the app to be seen, at least on my browser: https://t.me/robinmg/21719
Waz up wit diss? Looks to me like they want Global Holodomor… what other reason can their be?
Trudeau pushes ahead on fertilizer reduction as provinces and farmers cry foul.
While the Trudeau government says they want a 30% reduction in emissions, not fertilizer, farm producer groups say that at this point, reducing nitrous oxide emissions can’t be done without reducing fertilizer use.
Exactly the same plan being pushed by the Dutch government.
Coincidence? The question is rhetorical, of course it’s not.
https://torontosun.com/news/national/trudeau-pushes-ahead-on-fertilizer-reduction-as-provinces-and-farmers-cry-foul
For instance…. they even have photos! hahaha
https://www.pfizer.co.nz/our-people/nz-management-team
Park some vax damaged folks out front?
HEAD OFFICE
Pfizer New Zealand
PO Box 3998
Shortland Street
Auckland 1140
Anyone know why the anti vax movement doesn’t park outside the Pfizer Moderna offices around the world and raise hell with the staff as they try to enter the building …
These are the people who are involving in killing the babies….
Maybe follow the top people to their homes then harass their spouses and children …. maybe some ‘Baby Killer Signs’? Or as the kids go to school get in front of them with ‘Your Daddy Kills Babies for a Living!’
I guess they’re are too stooopid to think of that…
The symbolism itself would be powerful. It would be good watchin too!
They likely realize that there would be a swift and harsh response to any protest like this…Pfizer/Moderna etc have the protection of the state
Oh I see… so they’d prefer to just march around random blocks achieving zero.
Never gonna win a war doing that.
In fact just showing up at the Pfizer offices won’t achieve anything either.
But it would be interesting to watch
Maybe they could try and just see what happens?
They know they will be labeled domestic terrorists and given the J6 defendant treatment….one more of which has just committed suicide, having committed no violence or destruction. RIP Mark Aungst.
Ah I see… so they are not really that upset about the mass murder campaign that is being waged against them….
Most of them believe they are being chipped and enslaved under the Great Reset… you’d think they’d be willing to put a bit of skin into the game to try to stop this nightmare from being rolled out …
Nah… too risky to protest in front of Pfizer…. not willing to risk arrest never mind death…
Shall we refer to this as the Snowflake Revolt?
You said yourself that protesting accomplishes nothing. So what is the point? Why risk arrest or death?
Oh no I’m not going to do this … I would never protest — if I felt the boot on my neck… I’d not waste my time with that nonsense… I’d go after the families… no f789ing around with marching around the block..
Any how … for those who believe this is about the boot on the neck forever (it’s not) — the least they could do is hit the Pfizer offices with Baby Killer signs … in reality they are being exterminated and they are unwilling to make a peep…
Pathetic coward weaklings… snowflakes… they believe their kids are being yoked and all they do is march round the block hahahahahahaha
Does anyone else see the stoopidity and hypocrisy? Right lets just build stuff to blow sh*t up and f789 up the planet but for heavens sake, lets not ruin the climate. What a collective bunch of dumb@sses are acting as world leaders. But should we expect anything less from a senile old man who says he has cancer because his mother used windshield wipers to clean the motor oil from the family car?
https://www.zerohedge.com/weather/us-army-embraces-ev-future-new-electric-hummer
“US Army Embraces “EV Future” With New Electric Hummer. On Earth Day (Apr. 22), President Biden stated, “every vehicle in the United States military is going to be climate-friendly.” He said, “we’re spending billions of dollars to do it.”
I certainly hope the EV stays near a recharging station that really has electricity supplied to it. It is hard to imagine how a vehicle as big and heavy as an Electric Hummer is ” ‘stepping stone’ to getting the service electrified.” I imagine the vehicle will have to be hooked up to a charging station for hours on end. If these vehicles are operated in poor countries with inadequate electricity supplies (or rich countries with inadequate electricity supplies) it seems like they will be “sitting ducks” for attacks. They will not be available when needed.
The ideal vehicle for electrification is one that is operated for a large share of the time, operating short distances. Thus, it is useful for taxis and delivery services. I cannot imagine that the use of Electric Hummers will be anything like this. Instead, the vehicles are simply for showing off.
I hear Putin is unwilling to fight wars solely within 5 miles of recharging stations. And soldier pushing the electric hummer to the nearest station should be protected by the Geneva convention. Opposing troops laughing at them will be regarded as a crime of war.
Imagine an IED making contact with the battery hahaha Fried Ham and Legs
Luckily the printing press is already electric. Its just looting at this point. Electric hummer. Whatever you say boss but we need 5 billion. 10% kickback. Whats wrong with kickback? Every gasngo has a “kickback card”. Politics is a money game. Get control of the money. Spend money. Get kickbacks. Use kickbacks to control more money. Its a simple formula for success. Now insert some guy who says hey spending should be based on the organic economy. Silly goose. We got rid of the organic economy long ago.
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Why monasteries were thriving in the Middle Ages?
Because the population growth in the era of energy scarcity is not possible.
That is why the West with its seemingly anti-family attitudes wins over the false pro-family attitudes of the mass killers like Vlad Putin.
The pro-family attitudes in the era of energy implosion simply do not work. The religions promoting the ideas of a functional family fail, be it Catholicism or Protestantism. That is why the rise of various communities replaces these and such religions.
When there is the declining energy, the bare geology and clmt of the Earth is exposed, as it is the energy that transforms the clmt and the geology of the Earth to suit
the human needs.
aren’t Germany and Czech Republic up North?
too bad, so many Germans and Czechs gonna be freezing their ba11z off this winter.
I bet Russians will have plenty of FF to stay warm all winter.
too bad the woketard Europeans are too self righteous to continue buying high quality Russian FF.
I Stand With Putin.
“I Stand With Putin.”
Lol. Make that into a T-shirt and watch heads explode.
never gonna see an I Stand With Biden tee shirt.
I Stand With Boris must now be a collector’s item.
I Stand With Klaus hahahahaha.
http://thesaker.is/operation-zov-quagmire-and-fog/
“Douglas McGregor stated that Russia is preparing for a massive offensive to end this war once and for all, they will do it in the next 30 days – military observer, retired US Army Colonel Douglas McGregor.”
“Everyone is trying to stagger backward from their own sanctions. The EU has blocked a proposal to impose sanctions against the Russian company VSMPO-Avisma which is the world’s largest titanium producer. (We hate you, but please sell us your titanium!).
“The Russian government has expanded the list of “unfriendly” foreign states to include Greece, Denmark, Slovenia, Croatia, and Slovakia.”
“(We hate you, but please sell us your titanium!).”
“(We hate you, but please sell us your titanium!).”
“(We hate you, but please sell us your titanium!).”
You have a point and I think you’re right. Monasteries were a good response to the post-collapse low energy environment. Communal living (more efficient) with no babies arriving unpredictably. And they preserved the culture that would have otherwise been lost with the loss of libraries, theatres, schools, universities and civic buildings.
I agree. The neo Viking raiders of the modern dark age will appreciate such concentrated local collections of frugal souls.
The old war gods are growing stronger and the veil between worlds is very thin now.
At one of the local monasteries here, 57N, various hardy (I mean, really hardy) fruit trees are preserved and presumably also propagated. Nowhere else I have seen grapes and plums growing this far North. Also of note the very abundant hazelnuts in the wild, although the nuts are quite small.
You are right! Monasteries were a great response to inadequate energy per capita of an earlier age. They are a place that families could send their “extra” children, who could not inherit the farm without breaking it into small pieces, or be married off, to live on someone else’s farm.
Worth noting that even rich families put excess children into religious institutions, particularly girls so as to save on expensive dowries payable upon marriage.
Monks and nuns would also care for mentally deficient and crippled children.
Yes. We need the care for the elderly and the disabled, not the war.
Christianity at the time was all about voluntary poverty and the futility of riches. Also fits in well with a scenario of depleted resources.
You can make sense of a lot of things by looking through the energy lens, like you did with World War I.
Can we have dislike button?
You know when you are eating a meal and your dog is sitting there begging …and once you finish you let him lick the plate (to save hot water and washing it to keep Geeta and Leo happy)
Do you think the dog thinks of you as you think of the folks who attend Davos and dine on the best dishes… while we eat slops….
In this respect how are we any different than those heavy weights at Davos????
Good point, because the Davos Group refers to the Plebs as “The Great Unwashed”. Talk about elitist arrogance. So your example is a good one.
They don’t love us the way we love our dogs, though…..
That’s why i am cat person
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Can anyone open this https://nzdsos.com/
It’s been like that for ages… I’ve emailed them to tell them but still no go
I used Google Chrome and got in, try this link.
https://nzdsos.com/declaration/
This site can’t be reachednzdsos.com unexpectedly closed the connection.
Try:
Checking the connection
Checking the proxy and the firewall
Running Windows Network Diagnostics
ERR_CONNECTION_CLOSED
Try it from a tablet or a smartphone. If the problem persists on different devices and operating systems then maybe the government has blocked that site from within NZ. I was able to access the declaration if I wanted to but i’m not from or in NZ.
Mobile is fine… not sure why my laptop can’t access… I’ve used them to get Ivermectin so maybe I’m being targeted and blocked… who knows .. I could get my tech guys to look but rather not waste their time
You could also try anVPN to fool the website that you’re not in NZ.
Tried multiple countries – no go … bizarre.
works in OZ on VPN
Bidet — hard to unsay when its on video https://t.me/DowdEdward/798
Gosh the local resistance now has a social schedule – Pot Luck one day — Mass Formation Doco night – Gen Z movie night … bring popcorn and snacks
no options for a night spend on how to wire up an IED …. these people are not very serious but if it makes them feel good why not
A popular story for a while.
So … after the contact with the Diseased Aussie at the hockey match last night (he was coughing into his sleeve and trying to pretend he’s not about to die from VAIDS) .. Fast had a slight throat thing going this morning … felt like it could be the beginning of some sort of sickness…
Did a gargle with warm salt water and then funnelled a few litres through both nostrils while being water boarded by M Fast… seems to have cleared out the pipes…
Of course Fast is one of the few people on Earth with a functional immune system so that’s likely beat back The Sickness.
Feeling good. Feeling sharp… top of my game …
Keeping an eye out for more missiles inbound from the UK … fortunately I am surrounded by mountains which throws off the GPS …
People (mostly younger) were coughing nastily in all the shops I visited this week, and I started to get the beginnings of a fever and sore throat on Thursday, with the suggestion of a cough developing – not surprised by this.
Immediately used extra high dose zinc, etc, drank elderberry tea with honey, put some turmeric on my very garlicky paella and early to bed.
Sore throat and fever have gone. Had a similar result using lots of turmeric in a curry a few months ago, when a worsening sore throat vanished overnight. A good night’s sleep is a crucial part of the process I’d suggest.
I’ve also been fasting intermittently.
It’s odd to see how people have gone from cowering in masks to going about in crowded places spluttering and coughing as if it were mid-winter without a care.
I have some very inconvenient questions to ask. When I posed this question, the answer that I get is “Don’t know”, “Something they will manage it” or “The government will do it”
Shanghai has a population of 24.8m. It is a huge number. Much bigger than the population of many countries. Let us be conservative and cut that into two. Around 13m.
Locking down the entire city of 13m. This city has a lot of people who cannot work online or work from home. Shop assistants, clerks, construction, restaurants etc. A lot of them are low paid workers who barely cover their daily expenses. Many of these migrant workers are staying like 5 or 10 in a small apartment. Only the white collar workers, which represents only a small portion of Shanghai (10-20%?) who can work online.
The inconvenient questions
1. How can it be possible to lockdown a city of 13m (remember I cut down the number) without having massive repercussions on those who cannot work from home? How are they going to pay the rent or food?
2. It is even insanely possible just to use “food delivery services” to send food thousands of households? Think about the logistics issues – enough food delivery riders/ Where does the food come from if no trucks are sending them? A small disruption of delivery schedule to the small neighbourhood shops is more than enough to clear out the entire store in minutes. See how people react when an impending natural disaster happens.
It takes a large number of armed forces just to distribute food properly to disaster areas and that is only a few thousand people. 13m or 24m people?
Can anyone help me with the answers above?
I would not be surprised if they locked down ‘show estates’…. and not large parts of the city….
Although I can say that M Fast has a friend in Shanghai and she said they were not allowed outside the compound – and had to wait for food to be delivered…
Perhaps because this was planned long ago they had prepared a lot of delivery vans? It does seem like a logistical nightmare though…
The question is how does it work?
1. Let us say a block of apartments has 100 units. I know in China it has a lot more units. Each unit has 3 people. Total 300 people.
2. Supposedly each unit gets a box of food. Saw 1′ x 1′ x 1′. That would be 100 boxes or packets just for that block. You need a van/truck to get it delivered. It cannot be done by a motorcycle or a car.
According to the reports from China, they are only allowed to use “food delivery services” which probably uses motorbikes. So, how can that be even possible for just a small block of apartments with just 100 units.
Let us think about a mega development, which is common in China with 5000 individual units of apartments? 5000 packets takes up a lot of space even for a truck to delivery once a day. Usually it is either 1, 2, 3, 5 or 7 people in the apartment. Taking an average of 4, that will be 20,000 people.
You need at least 650 of these mega developments to house 13m people. In terms of household, it will be 3.25 million packets of food to be prepared and delivered (13m people with 4 people per household)
Let us say the food is set every 2 days. That is still around 1.7m packets to be prepared and sent to them.
Questions – what kind of facilities and manpower are required to process and pack 1.7m packets of raw food? Where do all the raw food comes from? What kind of logistics software that must be available to coordinate and pack them consistently for weeks/months?
Is it even possible giving that we are lowering all estimates like 13m people instead of 25m population of Shanghai.
It still never answers the questions of
1. How expensive it is to do it?
2. Delivering it the last mile is a big challenge – the distance, fuel, manpower
3. Not all live in mega apartment blocks. How about those who live on the premises? Two-storey shops where the owners live on the second floor? How do you even ensure that everyone is fed?
4. You need a variety of food in the box – raw pork, chicken, vegetables, etc?
It takes an army to get this done, physically and logistically.
haha… the more I think about it, the more I think we are “brain in a vat” and all this is just a simulation.
May be it is an excuse to hide the real reduction in the factory output and export from China.
May be it is an excuse to hide the real reduction in the factory output and export from China. perhaps but my question is “How it is done?” What you say is the result but I am more interested in how it is done? How do they lockdown and distribute food when it is “an impossible feat”？
Maybe they don’t. Maybe they just go to count the bodies once a week.
I understand that unless you were able to place a bulk order by consolidating with others where you live you didn’t get a food delivery … that would alleviate the problem to a significant extent if a single truck could drop a large shipment at a compound
Someone posted a few months ago regarding how it would be impossible to ramp up to produce billions of covid vaccines in such a short period of time when the roll out started…
With respect to that — obviously the vaccines were produced in the years prior to the emergence of Covid
What if there isnt really a lockdown in the sense you talk about and this is just an excuse not to produce and send goods to the USA?
What if there isnt really a lockdown in the sense you talk about and this is just an excuse not to produce and send goods to the USA?
@Withnail…..
We have “documented” confirmation via friends and relatives that there was a lockdown. You need to go one level up from “excuse not to produce and send goods to the USA?” You need to go beyond the trees and into the sky.
How can it is be possible to lockdown such a huge place? Go into the details and see how it can be implemented?
So, the contradiction is –
1. It is lockedown as per reports from friends and relatives who are staying in Shanghai
2. It is not possible logistically to lockdown such a big city.
3. It is not possible to contain 25m people as there are people who needs to work to make ends meet and there are work that needs to be done to ensure that society is functioning (a lot of the low level workers)
So how do you reconcile the 3 points above
Let me add in a few comments
1. MSM reported that all commercial activities are closed. Not sure if restaurants are opened. Army was not deployed to distribute food. Only food delivery services
2. We have only friends and relatives who are working in upper management who can work from home. We have no idea what happened to those essential but low-paid workers in Shanghai.
3. Relatives have no idea on what is going on because they are told not to leave the apartment. At most when the requirements are more relaxed, they can walk in the compound.
So, there is essentially no way one would know what happened outside of our relatives apartment.
Even with the best technology and manpower, it is impossible to feed 25m people on a daily basis for weeks. Think about it yourself if you are the person in charged of this distribution of 10,000 packets of food per day. How are you going to do it? Can you scale it up to 2m packets?
Please help me to understand how this can happen. Very inconvenient questions that needs to be answered as one goes into the details.
Of course if we are in The Matrix, the explanation is very simple and logical.
Only two possible explanations:
1. It is not happening across the city
2. Many people are dying.
Now, knowing the Chinese people, they are not really placid and accepting as we are told. You know the expression “like a Chinese fire drill”? If people were starving in their apartments, the Chinese would not just sit there and die. And they can still communicate via social media.
The answer is 1.
Thanks for all the replies… it defies reality and belief that in this interconnected world, we still don’t know many things. We are no different from the people of the olden days where they know nothing outside of their home, say 10km radius. This does not seem to be an “advancement”
Good point.
This makes the job of those making the Matrix so easy!
That + the MOREONS who believe whatever they are told