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No politician wants to tell us the real story of fossil fuel depletion. The real story is that we are already running short of oil, coal and natural gas because the direct and indirect costs of extraction are reaching a point where the selling price of food and other basic necessities needs to be unacceptably high to make the overall economic system work. At the same time, wind and solar and other “clean energy” sources are nowhere nearly able to substitute for the quantity of fossil fuels being lost.
This unfortunate energy story is essentially a physics problem. Energy per capita and, in fact, resources per capita, must stay high enough for an economy’s growing population. When this does not happen, history shows that civilizations tend to collapse.
Politicians cannot possibly admit that today’s world economy is headed for collapse, in a way similar to that of prior civilizations. Instead, they need to provide the illusion that they are in charge. The self-organizing system somehow leads politicians to put forward reasons why the changes ahead might be desirable (to avert climate change), or at least temporary (because of sanctions against Russia).
In this post, I will try to try to explain at least a few of the issues involved.
[1] Citizens around the world can sense that something is very wrong. It looks like the economy may be headed for a serious recession in the near term.
Consumer sentiment is at an extraordinarily low level, worse than during the 2008-2009 great recession according to a chart (Figure 2) shown on the University of Michigan Survey of Consumers website. According to the same website, nearly 48% of consumers blame inflation for eroding their standard of living. Food prices have risen significantly. Over the past year, the cost of car ownership has escalated, as has the cost of buying or renting a home.
The situation in Europe is at least as bad, or worse. Citizens are worried about possibly “freezing in the dark” this winter if electricity generation cannot be maintained at an adequate level. Natural gas supplies, mostly purchased from Russia by pipeline, are less available and high-priced. Coal is also high-priced. Because of the fall of the Euro relative to the US dollar, the price of oil in euros is as high as it was in 2008 and 2012.
Many other countries, besides those in the Eurozone, are experiencing low currencies relative to the dollar. Some examples include Argentina, India, Pakistan, Nigeria, Turkey, Japan, and South Korea.
China has problems with developers of condominium homes for its citizen. Many of these homes cannot be delivered to purchasers as promised. As a protest, buyers are withholding payments on their unfinished homes. To make matters worse, the prices of condominium homes have started to fall, leading to a loss of value of these would-be investments. All of this could lead to serious problems for the Chinese banking industry.
Even with these major problems, central banks in the US, the UK and the Eurozone are raising target interest rates. The US is also implementing Quantitative Tightening, which also tends to raise interest rates. Thus, central banks are intentionally raising the cost of borrowing. It doesn’t take much insight to see that the combination of price inflation and higher borrowing costs is likely to force consumers to cut back on spending, leading to recession.
[2] Politicians will avoid talking about possible future economic problems related to inadequate energy supply.
Politicians want to get re-elected. They want citizens to think that everything is OK. If there are energy supply problems, they need to be framed as being temporary, perhaps related to the war in Ukraine. Alternatively, any issue that arises will be discussed as if it can easily be fixed with new legislation and perhaps a little more debt.
Businesses also want to minimize problems. They want citizens to place orders for their goods and services, without the fear of being laid off. They would like the news media to publish stories saying that any economic dip is likely to be very mild and temporary.
Universities don’t mind problems, but they want the problems to be framed as solvable ones that will offer their students opportunities for jobs that will pay well. A near-term, unsolvable predicament is not helpful at all.
[3] What is wrong is a physics problem. The operation of our economy requires energy of the correct type and the right quantity.
The economy is something that grows through the “dissipation” of energy. Examples of dissipation of energy include the digestion of food to give energy to humans, the burning of fossil fuels, and the use of electricity to power a light bulb. A rise in world energy consumption is highly correlated with growth in the world economy. Falling energy consumption is associated with economic contraction.
In physics terms, the world economy is a dissipative structure, just as all plants, animals and ecosystems are. All dissipative structures have finite lifespans, including the world economy.
This finding is not well known because academic researchers seem to operate in ivory towers. Researchers in economic departments aren’t expected to understand physics and how it applies to the economy. In fairness to academia, the discovery that the economy is a dissipative structure did not occur until 1996. It takes a long time for findings to filter through from one department to another. Even now, I am one of a very small number of people in the world writing about this issue.
Also, economic researchers are not expected to study the history of the many smaller, more-localized civilizations that have collapsed in the past. Typically, the population of these smaller civilizations increased at the same time as the resources used by the population started to degrade. The use of technology, such as dams to redirect water flows, may have helped for a while, but eventually this was not enough. The combination of declining availability of high quality resources and increasing population tended to leave these civilizations with little margin for dealing with the bad times that can be expected to occur by chance. In many cases, such civilizations collapsed after disease epidemics, a military invasion, or a climate fluctuation that led to a series of crop failures.
[4] Many people have been confused by common misunderstandings regarding how an economy really works.
[a] Standard economics models foster the belief that the economy can continue to grow without a corresponding increase in energy supply.
When economic models are designed with labor and capital being the important inputs, energy supply doesn’t seem to be needed, at all.
[b] People seem to understand that legislation capping apartment rents will stop the building of new apartments, but they do not make the same connection with steps taken to hold down fossil fuel prices.
If efforts are made to bring down the prices of fossil fuels (such as raising interest rates and adding oil from the US petroleum reserves to increase total oil supply), we need to expect that extraction will be adversely affected. One article reports that Saudi Arabia does not seem to be using recent record profits to quickly raise reinvestment to the level that seemed to be required a few years ago. This suggests that Saudi Arabia needs prices that are quite a bit higher than $100 per barrel in order to take significant steps toward extracting the country’s remaining resources. This would seem to contradict published reserves that, in theory, take current prices into consideration.
Reuters reports that Venezuela has reneged on its promise to send more oil to Europe, under an oil for debt deal. It wants oil product swaps instead, since it is lacking in its ability to make finished products from its oil itself. It would take a long run of prices much higher than today’s level for Venezuela to be able to sufficiently invest in infrastructure to do such refining. Venezuela reports the highest oil reserves in the world (303.8 thousand million barrels), even higher than Saudi Arabia’s reported 297.5 thousand million barrels, but neither country can be counted on to take major steps to raise supply.
Similarly, there have been reports that US shale drillers are not investing to keep production growing, despite what seem to be sufficiently high prices. There are simply too many issues. The cost of new investment is very high, outside of the already drilled sweet spots. Also, there is no guarantee the price will stay high. There are also supply line issues, such as whether appropriate steel drilling pipes and fracking sand will be available, when needed.
[c] Published information suggests that there is a huge amount of fossil fuels remaining to be extracted, given today’s level of technology. If we assume that technology will get better and better, it is easy to believe that any fossil fuel limit is hundreds of years in the future.
The way the economy works, the extraction limit is really an affordability issue. If the cost of extraction rises too high, relative to what people around the world have for spendable income, production will stop because demand (in terms of what people can afford) will drop too low. People will tend to cut back on discretionary spending, such as vacation travel and meals in restaurants, cutting back on demand for fossil fuels.
[d] How “demand” works is poorly understood. Very often, researchers and the general public assume that demand for energy products will automatically remain high.
A surprisingly large share of demand is tied to the need for food, water, and basic services such as schools, roads, and bus service. Poor people require these basics just as much as rich people do. There are literally billions of poor people in the world. If the wages of poor people fall too low relative to the wages of rich people, the system cannot work. Poor people find that they must spend nearly all their income on food, water and housing. As a result, they have little left to pay taxes to support basic governmental services. Without adequate demand from poor people, the prices of commodities tend to fall too low to encourage reinvestment.
The majority of fossil fuel use is by commercial and industrial users. For example, natural gas is often used in making nitrogen fertilizer. If the price of natural gas is high, the price of fertilizer will rise higher than farmers are willing to pay for the fertilizer. Farmers will cut back on fertilizer use, reducing yields for their crops. The farmers’ own costs will be lower, but there will be less of the desired crops grown, perhaps indirectly raising overall food prices. This is not a connection that economic modelers build into their models.
The lockdowns of 2020 show that governments can indeed ramp up demand (and thus prices) for energy products by sending out checks to citizens. We are now seeing that the approach seems to produce inflation rather than more energy production. Also, countries without energy resources of their own may see their currencies fall with respect to the US dollar.
[e] It is not true that energy types can easily be substituted for one another.
In energy modeling, such as in calculating “Energy Return on Energy Invested,” a popular assumption is that all energy is substitutable for other energy. This isn’t true, unless a person accounts for all of the details of the transition, and the energy needed to make such a transition possible.
For example, intermittent electricity, such as that generated by wind turbines or solar panels, is not substitutable for load-following electricity. Such intermittent electricity is not always available when people need it. Some of this intermittency is very long-term. For example, wind-generated electricity may be low for more than a month at a time. In the case of solar energy, the problem tends to be storing up enough electricity during summer months for use in winter. A naive person might assume that adding a few hours of battery backup would fix intermittency problems, but such a fix turns out to be very inadequate.
If people are not to freeze in the dark in winter, longer-term solutions are needed. One standard approach is to use a fossil fuel system to fill in the gaps when wind and solar are not available. The catch, then, is that the fossil fuel system really needs to be a year-around system, with trained staffing, pipelines and adequate fuel storage. A modeler needs to consider the need to build a whole double system instead of a single system.
Because of intermittency issues, electricity from wind and solar only substitute for fuels (coal, natural gas, uranium) that operate our current system. Publications often talk about the cost of intermittent electricity being at “grid parity” when its temporary cost seems to match the cost of grid electricity, but this is matching “apples and oranges.” The cost comparison needs to be in comparison to the average cost of fuel for plants producing electricity, rather than to electricity prices.
Another popular assumption is that electricity can be substituted for liquid fuels. For example, in theory, every piece of farm equipment could be redesigned and rebuilt to be based on electricity, rather than diesel, which is typically used today. The catch is that there would need to be an enormous number of batteries built and eventually disposed of for this transition to work. There would need also need to be factories to build all this new equipment. We would need an international trade system operating extraordinarily well, to find all the raw materials. Likely, there would still not be enough raw materials to make the system work.
[f] There is a great deal of confusion about expected oil and other energy prices, as an economy reaches energy limits.
This issue is closely related to [4][d], with respect to the confusion about how energy demand works. A common assumption among analysts is that “of course” oil prices will rise, as limits are approached. This assumption is based on the standard supply and demand curve used by economists.
The issue is that the availability of inexpensive energy products very much affects demand as well as supply. Jobs that pay well are only available if inexpensive energy products can leverage human labor. For example, surgeons today perform robotic surgery, requiring, at a minimum, a stable source of electricity for each operation. Furthermore, the equipment used in the surgery is created using fossil fuels. Surgeons also use anesthetic products that require fossil fuels. Without today’s fancy equipment, surgeons would not be able to charge nearly as much they do for their services.
Thus, it is not immediately obvious whether demand or supply would tend to fall faster, if energy supply should hit limits. We know that Revelation 18:11-13 in the Bible provides a list of a number of commodities, including humans sold as slaves, for which prices dropped very low at the time of the collapse of ancient Babylon. This suggests that at least sometimes during prior collapses, the problem was too low demand (and too low prices), rather than too low supply of energy products.
[5] The International Energy Agency and politicians around the world have recommended a transition to the use of wind and solar to try to prevent climate change for quite a few years. This approach seemed to have the approval of both those concerned about too much burning of fossil fuels causing climate change and those concerned about too little fossil fuel energy causing economic collapse.
A rough estimate of what the decline in energy supply might look like under the rapid shift to renewables proposed by politicians is shown in Figure 6.
If a person understands the connection between energy consumption and the economy, such a rapid drop in energy supply looks like something that would likely be associated with economic collapse. The goal of politicians seems to be to keep citizens from understanding how awful the situation really is by reframing the story of the decline in energy supply as something politicians and economists have chosen to do, to try to prevent climate change for the sake of future generations.
The rich and powerful can see this change as a good thing if they themselves can profit from it. When there is not enough energy, the physics of the situation tends to lead to increasing wage and wealth disparities. Wealthy individuals see this outcome as a good thing: They can perhaps personally profit. For example, Bill Gates has amassed about 270,000 acres of farmland in the United States, including newly purchased farmland in North Dakota.
Furthermore, politicians see that they can have more control over populations if they can direct citizens in a way that will use less energy. For example, bank accounts can be linked to some type of social credit score. Politicians will explain that this is for people’s own good–to prevent the spread of disease or to prevent undesirables from using too much of the available resources.
One way of dramatically reducing energy consumption is by mandating shutdowns in an area, purportedly to prevent the spread of Covid-19, as China has been doing recently. Such shutdowns can be explained as being needed to stop the spread of disease. These shutdowns can also help hide other problems, such as not having enough fuels to prevent rolling blackouts of electricity.
[6] We are living in a truly unusual time, with a major energy problem being hidden from view.
Politicians cannot tell the world how bad the energy situation really is. The problem with near-term energy limits has been known since at least 1956 (M. King Hubbert) and 1957 (Hyman Rickover). The problem was confirmed in the modeling performed for the 1972 book, The Limits to Growth by Donella Meadows and others.
Most high-level politicians are aware of the energy supply issue, but they cannot possibly talk about it. Instead, they choose to talk about what would happen if the economy were allowed to speed ahead without limits, and how bad the consequences of that might be.
Militaries around the world are no doubt well aware of the fact that there will not be enough energy supplies to go around. This means that the world will be in a contest for who gets how much. In a war-like setting, we should not be surprised if communications are carefully controlled. The views we can expect to hear loudly and repeatedly are the ones governments and influential individuals want ordinary citizens to hear.
desantis is theatre https://t.me/chiefnerd/4669 good guy bad guy
Silenced healthcare workers speak out publicly for the first time
Here’s what silenced healthcare workers from all over the world want you to know and why they aren’t able to speak out directly.
Steve Kirsch
Aug 26
RNs will not be silenced | New York State Nurses Association
I created a form to ask healthcare workers to speak anonymously about what they are seeing.
Here’s what they said in their own words.
Here is a quick summary of some of the things they said:
They are afraid to come out publicly due to intimidation tactics such as loss of job and/or license to practice medicine.
Unvaccinated healthcare workers are extremely upset with the medical community. They feel they have been treated unfairly.
It is the vaccinated workers who are getting sick with COVID, but it is the unvaccinated who are punished with constant testing, restrictions, and threats of losing their jobs.
The COVID shots are a disaster. Even for the elderly which is supposed to be the most compelling use case, death rates in elderly homes went up by a factor of 5 after the shots rolled out. Each time the shots are given, the deaths spike. Nobody is talking publicly about this. It’s not allowed.
Doctors are seeing rates of injury and death increase dramatically in all ages of people. The injuries are only happening to the vaccinated. There is no doubt that this is happening but many doctors have so much cognitive dissonance that they don’t see it.
One nurse with 23 years of experience says she’s never heard of anyone under 20 dying from cardiac issues until the vaccines rolled out. Now she knows of around 30 stories.
Doctors aren’t recording vaccination status in the medical records so that all the deaths are attributed to the unvaccinated.
Doctors are deliberately ignoring the possibility that the vaccines could be the cause of all the elevated events. The events are simply all unexplained.
Many doctors have either quit or will quit.
Some doctors and nurses at top institutions such as Mass General Hospital have falsified vaccine cards. They publicly toe the line and encourage their patients to take the shot knowing full well it is deadly. They value their job more than the lives of their patients. The important thing is they are risking 10 years in jail for doing this. These highly respected medical workers are telling the world that these COVID shots are so dangerous that they are willing to risk 10 years in prison to avoid taking the shot. That’s the message America needs to hear. And if Biden were an honest President, he would call for full amnesty and protection from retaliation for all these cases if people admitted publicly they did this. He’d be amazed at the number of responses he’d get. But he won’t do that because it would be too embarrassing for his administration.
Things don’t seem to be getting any better.
The medical examiners all over the world are not doing the property tests during an autopsy to detect a vaccine-related death. Without doing the required tests, it is very hard to make an association. There isn’t a single “guidance” document from any medical authority anywhere in the world to do these tests on people who die within 3 months of their last COVID vaccination. This is why no associations are found: they aren’t looking.
Doctors are being forced to take other vaccines (such as the HIV vaccine) so the hospital can meet their quota. This was admitted to them.
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/silenced-healthcare-workers-speak
Oh my…. https://t.me/TommyRobinsonNews/38918
Toxic epidermal necrolysis after first dose of Pfizer-BioNTech (BNT162b2) vaccination with pharmacogenomic testing
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/pde.15074
Why 45 to 55 % relative humidity is ideal for humans
https://www.robertbpayne.com/perfect-indoor-humidity-for-all-seasons/
https://www.robertbpayne.com/images/2019/02/Optimum-Relative-Humidity-Range.png
This is related to flu season in the winter, when indoor humidity tends to be low.
Very interesting video on the history of sanctions against Russia. It is worth watching as it gives good perspective on the effects of sanctions:
Look over at peak oil barrel!
“KENGEO” has grouped there (in several comments) import and export oil countries and calculated an annual decline rate of more than 5%.
https://peakoilbarrel.com/opec-update-august-2022/#comments
Saludos
el mar
This might explain a lot (from a comment):
Trends for the countries declining the most:
Saudi Arabia – Net exports between 2018 and 2021 declined by 1.1 MBpD.
Iran – Over the same period decline of 1.0 MBpD.
Russia – Over the same period decline of 0.7 MBpD.
The only Top 10 oil exporting country to buck the decline trend was Canada, increasing their net exports by ~0.5 MBpD between 2018 and 2021.
Since peaking in 2018, approximately 10% less exported oil is available to the oil importing countries.
Of course, this is with the world economy operating as before. If governments are being overthrown, for example, the decline rate could be a whole lot worse.
If you need rebuilding a government building because it has been burned down, you might need a lot of FF.
Better not get the people do that , eh ?
That HSBC report from 2016 said about the same:
The oil market may be oversupplied at present, but we see it returning to balance in 2017e
By that stage, effective spare capacity could shrink to just 1% of global supply/demand of 96mbd, leaving the market far more susceptible to disruptions than has been the case in recent years
Oil demand is still growing by ~1mbd every year, and no central scenarios that we recently assessed see oil demand peaking before 2040
81% of world liquids production is already in decline (excluding future redevelopments)
In our view a sensible range for average decline rate on post-peak production is 5-7%, equivalent to around 3-4.5mbd of lost production every year
By 2040, this means the world could need to replace over 4 times the current crude oil output of Saudi Arabia (>40mbd), just to keep output flat
Small oilfields typically decline twice as fast as large fields, and the global supply mix relies increasingly on small fields: the typical new oilfield size has fallen from 500-1,000mb 40 years ago to only 75mb this decade
New discoveries are limited: last year the exploration success rate hit a record low of 5%, and the average discovery size was 24mbbls
US tight oil has been a growth area and we expect to see a strong recovery, but at 4.6mbd currently it represents only 5% of global supply
Step-change improvements in production and drilling efficiency in response to the downturn have masked underlying decline rates at many companies, but the degree to which they can continue to do so is becoming much more limited
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9wSgViWVAfzUEgzMlBfR3UxNDg/view?resourcekey=0-LNEPq6IGmJSM1s6t_ZpLjg
wicked
The non-gift that keeps on giving. When do the people in charge of public health get to face an independent enquiry? https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/health/causes-death/provisional-mortality-statistics/latest-release
Have you seen this: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/drastic-increase-non-infectious-diseases-military-explained-data-glitch-whistleblower
I have now… incredible
This is a report on Australian deaths being high in the first five months of 2022.
Wow Gail, the situation seems to be spinning out of control fast. I love how you combine religious and “conspiratoric” aspects to your posts, I feel like it is needed to give the full picture of our situation, and it´s a logical continuation from combining economy and politics to the physics part of our problem.
I talked to my mother the other day, I usually never mention these issues to her since she previously tended to only become worried about me and worry that I might get depressed rather than listen to the logics of the argument. Anyway, this time I mentioned that I do believe that we are closing in on the end of times, and she replied something like “yeah, I think you are right”. So it seems to me that the gravity of the situation is starting to sink in even amongst people who only consume main stream media, it is getting really hard to hide. And it seems unlikely that we can get through winter here in Europe without serious power outages, that could really make people lose faith in the current order of things. I hope that the slow collapse will continue though, and that a year from now I am still sitting here reading some Fast Eddy comment about vaccine damages, I guess that´s the best I can hope for.
I truly miss Davids “BAU tonight” ending of comments, but that epoc is over forever I guess. Perhaps this friday evening I should pour myself some whisky, close my eyes and pretend it´s still 2019.
It is staged, Erik! I don’t believe even for the slightest moment that God would accept something like the revelation. Disasters, yes, but a divine judgment? No. The staged revelation is like the medicine man that knows about the eclipse and pretends as if it were his work. Are you sure the revelation texts are authentic?
There are people with the illusion of having to educate us.
Maybe they know something we don’t. I have tried to point this out in many posts. So there could be something that is added to the fossile aspect as explained by Gail: a solar cycle, an ice age, a volcanic eruption, a meteorite, a flood, a shift of the earth’s crust. It is enough if very influencial people just believe they know something!
Volcanic eruptions can certainly also be promoted with nuclear bombs.
Never, and this comes from a declared atheist, let your personal spirituality and trust in God be damaged by any imposters who claim to know where God dwells! You are the chosen one! We all are.
I would say that as soon as you have an intelligent life form on earh creating civilization, it is inevitable that civilization ends with consuming all of the available recourses. I would even say that this development is preferable, as the only other alternative is for the civ to go under prematurely, eg due to disease, war, climate change or other reason.
Of course God knows this, and will intervene and stop the ongoing collapse at some point. But I am not sure God is in a hurry. I do not read much into the revelation more than that the end times will be grim, which is only logical considering the above. I do however find some comfort in the conclusions drawn from the archaeological investigations of the site Göbleki Tepe, built in Turkey before the onset of agriculture. One theory is that agriculture developed adjacent to the cult site as the hunter gatherers came in great numbers and needed a larger food production nearby. Perhaps civilization, i.e. the onset of agricultural society, was an effect of man’s search for higher meaning (god). In that sense, I do believe that God is behind the ongoong collapse, and I am fine with it. And it is not some secret society fooling me into thinking this, because our situation is unavoidable, it would have been the same without God, and no man can change that.
You first say,
“I would say that as soon as you have an intelligent life form on earh creating civilization, it is inevitable that civilization ends with consuming all of the available recourses.”
I agree with you on this, if “available” is defined as “affordable.” Affordable turns out to be a whole lot less than what appears to be available.
You then say,
“Of course God knows this, and will intervene and stop the ongoing collapse at some point.”
I have real doubts about this statement. There have been many earlier civilizations that collapsed.
There may very well be some sort of life after death, or some other way of handing the situation, but the Universe is very well set up with continuous evolution allowing need dissipative structures to replace previously discarded dissipative structures. Nearly all species that have ever existed are now extinct.
Perhaps the question is, “Was the Universe really created for man’s benefit? If so, the ending of human life on Earth is not compatible with this purpose. In such a situation, something must intervene to change the situation.”
I would agree that this strange situation is a possibility. But, how this works out is not for us to know at this time, I don’t think.
If God exists then they really aren’t a very nice entity. We are just a play thing. S hits and giggles for them. A science project at god school. Wonder if I will be punished forever for just saying this.
There may well be an over soul ( God if you will) but the reality you see around you is much more easily explained by simacrulum.
If you will do just a little cursory research you will find that truly massive, extensive, technologically advanced civilizations have been here before,….’ many many many times.
Just the enormous Bosnian pyramid complex alone should shock an awakening… tens of thousands of years old and much larger than Giza.
Montana monoliths of the same chronology etc etc.
You will discover that from various sources apocalyptic events are swelling. Yellowstone volcano is experiencing a resurgence of seismic and tectonic activity. The planets magnetic poles are now moving at truly breakneck place to a meeting in the Malaysian/Indian Oceans, the galactic current sheet has arrived in our “solar system”……
the program of the simacrulum is completing its loop.
We are going back to the Stone Age yet again.
As a species we are either not discovering something important or the trial of souls for the individual is the entire point.
The demiurge (AI program) might somehow feed off the human fear, or the “archons” are influencing events for the same purpose.
What is certain, is that the program plays out. The programmers of it all ( maybe humans?) made sure of this. Multiple times humanity inside this construct have attempted escape ( over pressure damage in multiple pyramid chambers worldwide)… we still here cannot know what the effects were. We are still here apparently.
Wait for possible chatter soon regards approaching celestial objects off the ecliptic plane and worry about solar events,…. micro nova and massive CME. These are the tools intrinsic to the simacrulum. They will manifest.
“The demiurge (AI program) might somehow feed off the human fear, or the “archons” are influencing events for the same purpose.”
I like this idea, which number do I dial to get my ridiculous egotistical fantasies of objective reality to influence this “AI” entity?
Would a Christmas wish list do the “trick”:
1. Existence and consciousness
2. A hottie smart rear end broad without the tragicomic MOARonities
1: Is the tricky part; but it can be sorted out
2: Doesn’t exist; so that sorted itself out in a hurry
Yep, I’m just gonna go ahead and apply induction and the self referential reasoning to boldly claim that we’re all part of the “Tao” and that one does not simply break out of the “program” willy nilly.
It shall mutate into another program as per evolutionary process.
This universe seem to abhor repetition. Go figure where the endless repetitions of egotistical fantasies of the rapacious primate would “fit in”.
Thank you guys for your replies. I have a hard time seening civilization coming back after the coming collapse, as we have used up so much fossil fuels and other resources all over the world, but of course it cannot be ruled out. And I am aware that the world already have endured and still endures much suffering, so I dont expect a major intervention from God simply due to the suffering, but rather in case there is no recovery for planet earth. As for the “God is evil” comment, I would rather have a God that accepts this situation than no god at all, which would leave me with nihilism, i.e. utter pointlessness and no sense of good or evil at all.
As for ancient intelligent life forms and aliens, I agree that there are many findings and phenomenons that are hard to explain so I don’t rule these out. Having an open mind is always best i guess.
Many people can indeed see the problem that is occurring. I think that we all hope that things will stay near normal for a long time.
@ Jan, Eric,
Staged!?
If what you say is truth then everything in Biblical history is hogwash. Did you not know that in practically every book of the Old Testament and a few of the New Testament climate change is mentioned as a form of Divine Communication? Here just from the book of Job:
He brings the clouds to punish men or to water his earth and show His love. Job 37:13
You know when scientists say that “they don’t understand certain abrupt meteorological events that pop up now and then” ask yourself if the answer lies where no one cares to look in these words:
The Lord is slow to anger but great in power; the Lord will not leave the guilty unpunished. His way is in the whirlwind and the storm, and clouds are the dust of his feet.” {Nahum 1:3}
The Lord will cause people to hear his majestic voice and will make them see his arm coming down with raging anger and consuming fire, with cloudburst, thunderstorm and hail. (Isaiah 30:30)
Rain will come in torrents, and I will send hailstones hurtling down, and violent winds will burst forth. Therefore, this is what the Sovereign Lord says: In my wrath I will unleash a violent wind, and in my anger hailstones and torrents of rain will fall with destructive fury. {Ezekiel 13:11-13}
As for the Book of Revelation did you know that it teaches that man will go to war against God their very creator and father?
“They will make war against the Lamb, but the Lord will
overcome them because He is Lord of lords and King of
kings-and with him will be His called, chosen and faithful
followers.” {Rev. 17:14}
could it be possible that with our amazing military someone will think to take on even God or what purports to be god by way of aliens which is all the rage today?
I suggest one take the above scriptures and ask oneself woe is this then what occurred with Bravo company during the Iraq War and how they were stopped dead cold by a series of storms that came up from nowhere and it should be? As Fox tells it:
“According to a radio newscast I heard while in my car during the Iraq war, a lone Moslem in the city of Baghdad had been screaming, “Hey, look what God is doing to the U.S. Forces.” Upon hearing this, I scoured the newspapers for any news about what this gentleman was talking about and came across a report about Bravo Company when they were some twenty-five miles from Baghdad. They were stopped dead by a series of storms that sprung up out of nowhere. The day had begun calmly enough, clear and sunny, but as they neared the city, they encountered a windstorm so fierce that it obscured the sun, turning the desert black. The wind was strong enough to batter and shake their tanks and personal carriers. After several hours, the sandstorm turned into a hailstorm with accompanying thunder and lightning. It turned the sand into mud, bogging down their vehicles and stalling their advance. They had to deal with the forming of a lake which almost swamped their vehicles.
This is typical of how God Almighty works. The conditions of the Old Testament are literally coming back in the Middle East. Sadly, it took one lone citizen of the city of Baghdad—a Moslem, no less—to recognize it for what it was: an act of Almighty God. He, of all people, could see what others could not. No doubt this was due more to his acclimatization to that environment than his education in matters of the Bible or the Koran (assuming there’s anything in that book regarding the weather). In the desert, no one ever lives to see a hailstorm, in so abrupt a manner and over an army.”
In the bible there are hundreds of scriptures which testify to this being the work of God but I will post one from Isaiah and thee other by Job:
“The Lord will cause people to hear his majestic voice and will make them see his arm coming down with raging anger and consuming fire, with cloudburst, thunderstorm and hail.” (Isaiah 30:30}
“Have you entered the storehouses of the snow or seen the storehouses of the hail, which I reserve for times of trouble, for days of war and battle?” (Job 38:22–23)
Now isn’t this interesting especially the one from the book of Job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
God is a military commander with his own weapons????????
Does this then explain what occurred at Fort Carson???
https://youtu.be/Gi7GOcwUwQg
Raises some serious questions does it not?
STAGED? i think you should think real hard about what is actually staged in your own heart against the Creator, the very one who fathered us all!
and guess what the Bible or rather God’s own words as recorded by the writer provides the solution to climate change!!!!!!!!!!
the bible was written by seers
some of the best in the business–but seers nonetheless, but we cannot rule our lives by the diktat of bronze age desert nomads who didn’t know where the sun went at night, and who thought that stars were simply holes in a dark firmament—and who knew only 7 planets, —-you would have thought god would have mentioned the others?
some people today have that gift of seeing too–i’ve seen it in operation up close..—i used to scoff at it, then events made me think otherwise.
Millions of people remain convinced that the Earth is less than 10k years old. And that god will not allow the earth to be destroyed by man. It is man who will be destroyed by man, and in the name of god too.
Well–that part is true–and the earth will get along very nicely without us thank you. It is we who are superfluous. There is no god to take care of us. Heretic that I am!
We used to have a guy come into OFW insisting that the Earth was flat. He was allowed a courteous hearing too—everyone is entitled to their point of view—but they are not entitled to be offended by someone else’s.
There’s quite a few OFW’ers with that problem
Thanks for your thoughts. God does seem to work through wind and water, as well as other ways. But it is hard for us to interpret what this all means.
With doomer blinders on, the end is always nigh.
Tell me you are not entertained!!!
https://twitter.com/Fucking__lit/status/1562405298832347137
Mama rat just sent this snake packing!
https://youtu.be/fOI8bA3xEJU
I knew I’d seen her somewhere before.
The resemblance is uncanny.
https://www.theautomaticearth.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Truss.jpg
And she’s ready to press the button!
What’s even scarier, is the audience applauded her.
WOW – the PR Team has dropped an atomic bomb … this is a must watch – and a LOT of people watch this guy … so this should bust open the festering wound… watch all of it…
https://t.me/TexasLindsay/360
Wow
Kelvyn Alp and Hannah Spierer were arrested by police in Christchurch today, the Herald understands.
The couple has links to Counterspin Media, which broadcasts conspiracy theories and discredited Covid-19 misinformation.
Alp launched Counterspin Media, a far-right website, in 2021 that was initially running on the platform of former Trump campaign chief Steve Bannon.
Counterspin is hosted by Alp and Spierer and the pair have discussed the moon landings, Covid-19 and the Christchurch massacre among other conspiratorial subjects.
The show has a heavy American influence, with references to the “deep state”, “Trevor Pelosi” and repeated claims of “false flags”.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/police-arrest-and-charge-far-right-counterspin-media-pair-in-christchurch-with-allegedly-distributing-objectionable-material/PI6EI77Z35O4EFGUKR2KK4YZUA/
Seems they’ve touched a nerve…. and they didn’t even mention The Elders!
https://www.americaoutloud.com/spike-protein-drives-explosive-heart-inflammation-in-teenagers/
Spike Protein Drives Explosive Heart Inflammation in Teenagers – America Out Loud
The McCullough Report with Dr. Peter McCullough – With a size of 180–200 kDa, the Spike protein has been found in the human heart
They think Fauci is gonna hang … hahahaha https://rumble.com/v1hc2s7-these-rats-are-gonna-run.html?mref=ah9c7&mrefc=3
Children’s National Hospital ADMITS to Performing ‘Gender-Affirming’ Hysterectomies on Younger Kids
Chaya Raichik: Okay. So they would do it [a gender-affirming hysterectomy] for that age [16]?
Hospital Worker: Yes.
Chaya Raichik: Okay, great. Is it a common procedure that you guys do for that age?
Hospital Worker: Yes. We Have all different types of age groups that come in for that.
Chaya Raichik: Okay. Just out of curiosity, do you know what’s the youngest age you would do it on?
Hospital Worker: Due to HIPAA, I’m not allowed to say that, but I have seen younger kids. Younger than your child’s age.
https://rumble.com/v1hc773-childrens-national-hospital-admits-to-performing-gender-affirming-hysterect.html?mref=ah9c7&mrefc=4
How’s that for unhinging things!
Surely they must be aware of what happened in the USSR?
https://rumble.com/v1hbxh3-socialism-wins-aoc-backed-new-york-democrat-celebrates-primary-victory.html?mref=ah9c7&mrefc=2
If you check AOC’s Only Fans site you can see that hottie in G-on-G action with AOC.
Roger would be one of those people that if you get in a fist fight with him… you could not stop till you killed him … cuz he’d do anything to win.. and he would not stop
https://t.me/childcovidvaccineinjuriesuk/2058
Can you stop linking to telegram most never open. Just a waste of time.
You need to download the app on the computer… Telegram has some of the best clips… avoid disappointment
Outstanding https://www.bitchute.com/video/QjBAyglnp0kR/
As Mark (Steyn of GBNEWS) states, he is currently being investigated by Ofcom:
“The Office of Communications, commonly known as Ofcom, is the government-approved regulatory and competition authority for the broadcasting, telecommunications and postal industries of the United Kingdom. Ofcom has wide-ranging powers across the television, radio, telecoms and postal sectors”
for reporting on sudden deaths amongst athletes, earlier this year.
Mark now reports regularly on sudden deaths and vaxx injuries.
Meanwhile norm can’t wait for Booster 5 haha….
USA- Reported Child Deaths and Sample of Injuries Following a Covid-19 Injection – Data to 12th August 2022
Link: https://openvaers.com/covid-data/child-summaries
Wow!
UK – MHRA- Harm to Children from Covid-19 Injections (aged 5 years to 17 years)
Data to 27th July 2022
The MHRA has now disclosed that:
• 4,342 children have now reported injury, harm or death following a Covid-19 injection, includes 82 cases of myocarditis, pericarditis
Children in the UK are being injected with Pfizer (majority), AstraZeneca and Moderna injections.
• Details of the deaths of children following a Covid injection and the number of injuries being suffered by children are not being disclosed by the MHRA.
• It is estimated by the MHRA that only somewhere between 1% and 10% of all cases of harm, injury or death are ever reported to the Yellow Card Scheme – as such the true number of cases could be 10 to 100 times higher than this number.
The long term impact of these experimental injections is currently unknown
Link to this MHRA Weekly Report :
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1096460/Coronavirus_Vaccine_-_Summary_of_Yellow_Card_reporting_27.07.2022.pdf
I think there were six deaths under 18 as well. Not that MHRA give a shit…
Birds, Other Wildlife Sacrificed for Useless Mask Pollution
Worldwide reports, including from Sri Lanka, the U.K, Australia, Japan and North America were gathered to demonstrate how masks have created environmental pollution that is injuring and killing wildlife
Mindless mask mandates increase your risk of death, weaken the immune system, encourage dehydration, increase headaches, decrease cognitive precision and promote facial alkalinization
Wearing surgical masks increases your daily inhalation of microplastics, while studies have demonstrated that mask wearing does not lower your risk of contracting viral illnesses, including flu and COVID-19
https://www.globalresearch.ca/birds-other-wildlife-sacrificed-useless-mask-pollution/5791114
Let’s check in on Fast Eddy’s movements
https://media.giphy.com/media/1Y6eOlvgr9JuM9dgF5/giphy.gif
Kabuki getting interesting. The blue clown team is holding hearings focusing on Trumps pressuring FDA. They are lumping the pressure for failed hydroxyclorquinine emergency authorization and the pressure for the MRNA injection emergency authorization together as one and the same which is entertaining kabuki just by itself. “this interferance stopped a effective response to covid”.
Trump is still singing his injection tune. “one of the greatest achievements of my administration”. That tune will not change. If he comes out and says the injections are unsafe and ineffective hes done. The documents surrounding his pressure on the FDA and the European health agencies to get on board with the MRNA genetic therapies are clear. Trump caved and got on board.
Blue clown team realizes he is genuinely vulnerable here. His base dont want nothing to do with the injections. The plan seems to be to create murky water about the injections while not coming out and saying they are unsafe and ineffective. Hence lumping them together with Hydroxyclorquine which everyone knows is just like injecting bleach. This is kabuki at its best!
While Trumps base believes blue clown team as much as they believe that guy selling rolexes in the subway they do know they dont trust anyone hawking the gene therapy injections. Blue clown team wont let them forget this. Biden is just a senile robot who repeated his script he cant be blamed. Trump is done. Personally Im glad.
No individual who continues to advocate the injections is fit as a leader. Red clown teams only chance is to ditch Trump and go with Desantis. Not going to happen with the it being a RHINO sanctuary. Orange hair man… who knows what hes really about besides orange hair man. My guess. Kamala wins in 24 after the smoke clears. Or perhaps a mystery candidate out of nowhere materializes like Obama. Various independents will get a lot of votes. Kabuki at its best!
Police forces in Germany are filling tanks with fuel to deal with street protests this winter about the energy crisis. Switz police are also preparing for unrest.
Gail, this was published in the FT last week. It is unusual to see such realism.
“In the International Energy Agency’s judgment, it is quite possible that global oil production will be inadequate to meet demand as soon as next year.”
The world would have been in a permanent oil crisis since 2005 without USA shale. Conventional oil peaked back then and USA shale cannot expand like that again. Offshore drilling would require higher prices to be profitable than are now the case. There are no present alternatives to fossil fuels, and “there is no way back to cheap energy”. The only realistic move for the short-term is to abandon sanctions on Russia to see Europe through this winter or else democracies may fall. (Another fear is that China will grow, suck up more oil, raise the price and dump the West into crisis.)
> A winter energy reckoning looms for the west
Across the world, politicians are ever more desperately looking to contain the explosive consequences of the energy crisis.
…. What is not available anywhere is a quick means for increasing the physical supply of energy. This crisis is not an inadvertent consequence of the pandemic or Russia’s brutal war against Ukraine. It has much deeper roots in two structural problems.
First, unpalatable as this reality is for climate and ecological reasons, world economic growth still requires fossil fuel production. Without more investment and exploration, there is unlikely to be sufficient supply in the medium term to meet likely demand. The present gas crisis has its origins in the Chinese-driven surge in gas consumption during 2021. Demand grew so rapidly that it was only available for European and Asian purchase at very high prices. Meanwhile, respite from rising oil prices this year has only materialised when the economic data from China is unpropitious. In the International Energy Agency’s judgment, it is quite possible that global oil production will be inadequate to meet demand as soon as next year.
For much of the 2010s, the world economy got by on the shale oil boom. Without US production more than doubling between 2010 and 2019, the world would have been trapped in a permanent oil crisis since 2005, when conventional crude oil production — oil drilled without hydraulic fracturing or from tar sands — stagnated.
But American shale cannot expand at the same rate again. Although the largest US shale oil formation — the Permian Basin in western Texas and south-eastern New Mexico — is projected to reach record output next month, overall US output is still more than 1mn barrels per day below what it was in 2019. Even in the Permian, daily production per well is declining.
More offshore drilling, of the kind opened up in the Gulf of Mexico and Alaska by the Inflation Reduction Act, will require higher prices, or investors willing to pour in capital regardless of the prospects for profit. The best geological prospects for a game changer akin to what happened in the 2010s lie with the huge Bazhenov shale oil formation in Siberia. But western sanctions mean that the prospect of western oil majors helping Russia technologically is a geopolitical dead end.
Second, little can be done that would immediately accelerate the transition from fossil fuels. Britain’s planned micro nuclear reactors will not be completed until the 2030s. Running electricity grids on solar and wind base loads will require technological breakthroughs on storage. It is impossible to plan with any confidence what progress will have materialised in 10 years, let alone next year. But precisely because an energy transition is essential to reduce fossil fuel consumption, large-scale, blue-sky investment is imperative.
The only way forward is realism for the short term, recognising that there is no way back to cheap energy, allied to radical, long-term ambition. A grasp of geopolitical realities is also essential. The US remains by some distance the world’s dominant power. Its naval power guarantees open waters for international trade. World credit markets depend on dollars. But Washington does not have the power to direct China and India’s energy relations with Russia.
This coming winter will bring a reckoning. Western governments must either invite economic misery on a scale that would test the fabric of democratic politics in any country, or face the fact that energy supply constrains the means by which Ukraine can be defended.
You are right. This is pretty amazing from the Financial Times. If the International Energy Agency is publishing the underlying story, it is all that much more amazing. The International Energy Agency is based in Paris. In the past, it has been a big cheerleader for wind and solar. It has been very concerned about climate change.
I will need to look into what it is saying now.
Fire at Biggest US Midwest Refinery Threatens Fuel Supplies
Accident season is upon us once again.
https://hiddencomplexity.substack.com/p/fire-at-biggest-us-midwest-refinery
No word yet on when restart expected.
The Silent Killers
Chapter 5: The Immunization Fraud – Do Vaccines Work? – Tetanus
https://drkevinstillwagon.substack.com/p/the-silent-killers-a0c
The article doesn’t give a person confidence that they really do.
Not that it matters since we’ll be extinct soon…
But if one was a parent the best course of action would be to avoid all vaxxes if that is possible (some places require some for schooling…)
If they work then great – so long as the MOREONS are all jabbed that ensures herd immunity so your kid won’t get sick. Let them take the chances with a vax injury.
F789 em – they are MOREONS. If they can’t figure this out for themselves… then like I said – they are MOREONS. Human garbage.
How women were sterilized in East Africa under the guise of a tetanus vaccination programme:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/MFdeOWYerxi5/
Why anyone would trust the contents of any vaccine is beyond me.
Just a couple of months ago, it was all fire and brimstone for those who are against bitcoin or CBDC. What happened?
/stu.pid question
no such thing as a stooooopid question! 😉
crypto hasn’t moved much lately.
meanwhile, here’s an example of the real action:
https://www.barchart.com/futures/quotes/TG*1
it was an all time high on Wednesday.
and now has spiked 10% higher Thursday!
Europe is in an historic economic meltdown, so who cares about CBDC?
that’s my take anyway.
feel the joy.
Of excess-mortality & vaccine: dramatic rise in US excess death shortly after booster rollout early 2022; alarming U.S. Insurance Report Shows Double Excess Mortality in 35-44 Age Group in Q3 2021
In 2020, after the pandemic struck, before vaccines came, a surge in COVID-19 related excess mortality seen & 25% of all excess mortality is not COVID; points to deaths from lockdown & school closure
https://palexander.substack.com/p/of-excess-mortality-and-vaccine-dramatic
https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Facd70a61-06ce-4bb6-8224-a98b4bcab9af_1584x864.png
So, what is the blue line?
1 in every 73 COVID-19 Vaccinated People were Dead by May 2022 in England according to UK Government
And 73 in 73 COVID-19 DEATHVAXXED™ have VAIDS.
Official data released by the UK Government confirms that 1 in every 73 people who received at least one dose of the Covid-19 vaccine in England had sadly passed away by the end of May 2022.
Whilst some of the deaths would have been expected, further shocking data published by the UK Government confirms many were not because the mortality rates per 100,000 are the lowest among the unvaccinated population in every single age group.
hahahaha enjoy the fantastic charts!!!
https://2ndsmartestguyintheworld.substack.com/p/1-in-every-73-covid-19-vaccinated
https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7cfdf292-454a-4891-afc9-557d99335b56_639x495.png
Anyone else feeling like a Smug Prick about now hahahahahahahahaha
The question I would have is, “How accurate is the count of the unvaccinated?” If the count of the unvaccinated is a little on the high side, it will make the mortality rate for the unvaccinated look low.
You know how they count people as vaxxed in the two or three weeks following their first vax?
They do that cuz lots of them die… and they don’t want those deaths being counted in the Vaxxed column.
So I betcha lots of the unvaxxed deaths … are vaxxed deaths.
I am guessing that unvaccinated is by subtracting the various vaccinated categories from total population.
If the count of people who are unvaccinated also includes a count of people with unknown vaccination status, an overcount of the unvaccinated could occur. This might happen if there are immigrants whose vaccination status is not registered in the UK, for example. They might still be counted as vaccinated at death.
Also, if the total population count is high, and the vaccinated categories are subtracted to get the unvaccinated, a person would expect to get the result in the analysis.
Unless I was very certain of the unvaccinated count, I would be afraid to use this kind of analysis.
It seems they will do whatever it takes … to make the unvaxxed look bad. Therefore it’s probably best to work off that assumption with all data
Remember how they were using data from before the vaxxes were even available – and lumping it in with more recent data – to state that unvaxxed deaths were higher hahaha..
In Austria the definition changes more often than some people their shirt. Who is unvaccinated is defined by law or decree. Meanwhile a lot of people that are vaccinated two times or vaccinated and recovered are defined as unvaccinated.
In my eyes an unvaccinated person in the mRNA context has never been in touch with any mRNA- or DNA-injections.
That means we have to take a very close look to respective studies.
And the excess deaths continue to tear higher!
https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/another-week-with-deaths-far-above
norm? Do you think you might be able to battle through the folding prions and provide us with a cogent explanation?
Prions=CJD=zombies? Do we get to shoot the hordes like in the movies?
I’m in for that!
It’s tough to buy a baseball bat in NZ – they play some stooopid game called cricket … that goes on for a month — and they dress like they are in Abercrombie ads… that bats are not the right shape for smashing in zombie heads…
I’ll order one from Amazon — cuz I will need it when I attend the hospital parking lot to put the diseased zombies down… not worth wasting $$$ on ammo
Kill the Zombies – Bash Their Heads hahahaa
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fa94RGJXwAANI8L?format=jpg&name=4096×4096
Meryl Nass https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/p/theyre-free-to-keep-on-killing-us
1. Multiple papers now suggest that COVID mRNA vaccines impair not just immunity to COVID, but immunity and immune surveillance overall.
The implication is that the vaxxed are more susceptible to a variety of infections, and perhaps also to cancer. Immune surveillance is what identifies cancer cells and kills them before they can proliferate.
So, you are vaccinated. The implications of this information are too frightening to be allowed into consciousness. You don’t need the external censors to suppress this knowledge; you do it automatically with your built-in defense mechanisms.
2. Data from multiple countries now shows that all cause mortality (deaths from everything) are higher in the vaccinated.
This is just as scary, if not more so, than an increased risk of serious infections and cancer. You deny and/or suppress this information, because it simply cannot be allowed to be true.
3. You vaccinated your child. This may have impaired their fertility, increased the cancer risk, etc. etc. etc.
Of all pieces of information that absolutely cannot be allowed to enter your consciousness, let alone be openly discussed in polite company, this one tops all. So you will simply refuse to allow mention of it. Friends whose conversations veer off in this direction must be obliterated. Requiring that all family members and friends be vaccinated protects you from facing those for whom this discussion does not trigger the existential and uncontrollable pain it does for the vaccinated.
And Voila–you have a controlled and cowed population who have become their own thought police.
Aha, so there are 2 immune systems. The natural immune system being destroyed by the Injection, and the “I dun wanna know” system that protects the jabbed from the bad reality show that about to become their life.
Trained Cognitive dissonance from the day they were born, and reinforced with MSM: Mainly Stupud Media
Will another 2 million+ vax believers wake up?
PRO VAXXER Dr John Campbell – UK JAB DEATHS on the increase (Deleted by YouTube)
https://metatron.substack.com/p/will-another-2-million-vax-believers
It is important to inject these MOREONS with the Super Strength Fizer… to cure their stooopidity.
Why should we have to share the planet with MOREONS like this? It’s not fair
Eco-Protestors Cause Chaos on M25 by Blocking Service Stations and Vandalising Pumps
https://dailysceptic.org/2022/08/24/eco-protestors-cause-chaos-on-m25-by-blocking-service-stations-and-vandalising-pumps/
https://dailysceptic.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Screenshot-2022-08-24-at-15.32.23-1140×570.png
BOOM! Gloves coming off now! Australia waking up! ‘This was a whole load of bullshit! We have been had. We are going to hunt you down, the people who are guilty, we are going to hold you accountable..
https://palexander.substack.com/p/boom-gloves-coming-off-now-australia
Wishful thinking
OFW agrees:
https://alexepstein.substack.com/p/20-myths-about-fossil-fuels-refuted
His book:
https://www.amazon.com/Fossil-Future-Flourishing-Requires-Gas-Not/dp/0593420411/
Don’t see any mention of peak oil in synopsis or comments.
Maybe it’s one of the chapters.
There is that “detail” of fossil fuels not really being available in the future that Alex Epstein omits.
This is an act – no way he forgot he already shook that guys hand https://t.me/TexasLindsay/336
NEW: Study shows masks are dangerous, but… says we should still use them?
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3116133/covid-19-masks-cause-plastic-fibre-inhalation-we-should-still
JUST IN – California to prohibit the sale of new gasoline cars by 2035 (great – we don’t want anyone thinking we will run out of oil… before the transition!)
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/24/climate/california-gas-cars-emissions.html
The “Sudden Deaths” in New Jersey are Mounting in 2022…
And this is just through June
https://rumble.com/v1ha7yn-the-sudden-deaths-in-new-jersey-are-mounting-in-2022.html
Some interesting articles in Harry’s economics bulletin today:
https://climateandeconomy.com/2022/08/25/25th-august-2022-todays-round-up-of-economic-news/
“Fears new CO2 crisis will lead to food shortages [UK] after closure of major production plant…”
“Finland Braces For Rolling Blackouts This Winter.”
Personally I think all EU countries are headed for rolling blackouts this winter. Just a matter of how soon.
Who’s Harry?
Nobody cares about the past … we are all about what doom have you done for us today?
and more spin to keep the MOREONS and Green Groopies calm
https://www.instagram.com/p/ChsHw1tuv4d/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY%3D
Creepy Old Uncle Joe: “Two Plead Guilty To Stealing Ashley Biden’s ‘Inappropriate Showers With Dad’ Diary”
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/two-plead-guilty-stealing-ashley-bidens-inappropriate-showers-dad-diary
UK Supermarkets Are Throwing Away Expiration Dates on Food Items
UK supermarkets are phasing out expiration dates on a range of perishable items in favor of good old-fashioned shoppers’ judgment. And while the chain retailers say the move will save customers money and cut waste, it marks a new turn in a grim consumer battle with rampant inflation.
Asda, Co-Op, Morrisons, Waitrose, Tesco Plc and Marks & Spencer Group Plc have all announced a total or partial scrapping of their traditional “best before” and “use by” dates on certain products, in some cases shifting to scannable codes that store staff can monitor to cull expired items.
Morrisons kicked off the trend by removing the indicators from 90% of its own-brand milk, encouraging shoppers to use a “sniff test” instead. Budget retailer Asda is the latest to make the shift, scrapping expiration dates on almost 250 of its fresh fruit and vegetable products starting Sept. 1.
Upmarket chain Waitrose is also eliminating best before dates on nearly 500 fresh products including root vegetables, fruits and indoor plants from September, while rival M&S is removing them from over 300 lines of fruit and vegetable items across its stores.
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/uk-supermarkets-are-throwing-away-expiration-dates-on-food-items-1.1809729
This is bad news for the Dumpster Divers….
We just added a little synthetic flavor to enhance your sniff-testing experience.
Unvaccinated service members living in ‘deplorable’ conditions, court filing reveals
Members of the Navy, who are part of a class action fighting for a religious exemption to the COVID-19 vaccine mandate, say they’ve been separated into “deplorable” living conditions.
One member, whose name was redacted from the court filing for privacy reasons, said the conditions aboard the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower have caused the individual to contact “mental health services multiple times.”
“The conditions on the barge are deplorable, much like the USS George Washington, which is anchored in the same shipyard. There is mold everywhere and the barge’s toilets back up and leak. The water leaks out of the base of the toilet and collects near my rack and out into the hall. On bad days, it goes into the berthings on the other side. The leaks seem to be sewage — it smells like sewage and looks like it too,” the individual wrote in a June court filing.
“Needless to say, I do not feel comfortable or safe in this environment.”
The lawsuit was originally filed in November of 2021, challenging the federal government’s order last summer to vaccinate all service members against COVID-19 by the end of the year.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/aug/24/unvaccinated-service-members-living-in-deplorable-/
Hmmm… the military is the ultimate power tool of the Fed…
Why inject the military????
Because the Fed is not the ultimate source of power in the USA? You surprise me Edward.
There is an ongoing attempt to create a breakaway civilization beyond the level of nation state. Of course it is foolish once one understands that reality is far from what most think it is.
This breakaway civilization is where untold trillions have gone… the ultimate black box project.
The “ box” will be covered by incandescent volcanic resurfacing and crushed by plate tectonics soon enough.
I do hope that the simacrulum keeps Yellowstone in check.
If the vast caldera erupts……. well,….. that would be in keeping with Projections of killing 75% of all human life on earth.
A very bad day indeed.
That is a true reset.
The Protocols Of Zion
Published 1903
* Place our agents and helpers everywhere
* Take control of the media and use it in propaganda for our plans
* Start fights between different races, classes and religions
* Use bribery, threats and blackmail to get our way
* Use Freemasonic Lodges to attract potential public officials
* Appeal to successful people’s egos
* Appoint puppet leaders who can be controlled by blackmail
* Abolish all rights and freedoms, except the right of force by us
* Sacrifice people (including Jews sometimes) when necessary
* Eliminate religion; replace it with science and materialism
* Control the education system to spread deception and destroy intellect
* Rewrite history to our benefit
* Create entertaining distractions
* Corrupt minds with filth and perversion
* Keep the masses in poverty and perpetual labor
* Use gold to manipulate the markets, cause depressions etc.
* Introduce a progressive tax on wealth
* Replace sound investment with speculation
* Make long-term interest-bearing loans to governments
* Give bad advice to governments and everyone else
“I care not what puppet is placed on the throne of England to rule the Empire, … The man that controls Britain’s money supply controls the British Empire. And I control the money supply.” Nathan Rothschild
“Once a nation parts with the control of its currency and credit, it matters not who makes the nation’s laws. … Until the control of the issue of currency and credit is restored to government and recognized as its most sacred responsibility, all talk of the sovereignty of parliament and of democracy is idle and futile.” — Mackenzie King, Canadian Prime Minister 1935-1948.
“I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.” – Woodrow Wilson, after signing the Federal Reserve into existence
“Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.” ― Woodrow Wilson
“The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. …We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of.” – Edward Bernays – Propaganda
This is a list of quotes from people describing how the world economy really works, especially in times of stress.
Regarding the Protocols of Zion, someone put this list together. It is not at all clear that it was a Jewish someone. It was just as likely was someone wanting to spread distrust of the Jews. It is a sign of growing divisiveness, rather than a sign that any one group actually believed these things.
Actually … this is the playbook of the Zionists … all Zionists pretend to be Jews… but all Jews are not Zionists… so it’s not antisemitic to suggest this is the play book.
Note that they indicate that they are willing to kill their own if it furthers their agenda of global domination … that would explain why there are so many holocaust films and they always win many awards….
Operation Gladio and Northwoods … 911… killing some folks to further an agenda.. what’s wrong with that? Too much people anyway + 99.9999% of them are MOREONS / barnyard animals – and they gotta die some how… what’s the big deal? said the Elders
Cromagnon are you claiming we are all part of a computer game? I recognize many far-flung ideas incorporated within your framework. Gordon Michael Scallion’s “earth changes” from a couple of decades ago. Perhaps Zechariah Sitchin’s “Nibiru” the planet that flips over our planet causing the poles to reverse. And so on. Why would the elites be taken out first in a planetary apocalypse?
Why ship their armaments out from under them?
“Weapons and ammunition are being stripped from active duty units all over the world and being sent to Ukraine. What I actually found the most interesting was the Governor of New York is sending their Guard’s MREs to Ukraine.”
https://twitter.com/terminalcwo/status/1562818637282840577
“It’s a complete fire sale.”
https://twitter.com/terminalcwo/status/1562227312837402624
First, Washington TImes is a paper owned by the moonies.
Second, they are not ordinary ship. They are aircraft carriers . I don’t see a point of this post
Shocking video from China: World’s third-largest river dries up in drought:
https://twitter.com/_dmoser/status/1561906152048410625
I find it interesting that the dried up river has no rubbish. Rubbish-free rivers are non-existence in many countries on Asia
Specially in China … which as we know is a filthy toxic shithole of a country.
You can’t even see across the street most of the time yet the sky looks clear of smog in that video
I am pretty confident that the “World’s third-largest river dries up in drought” is a computer generated. The cars on the bridge look fake.If it is Yangtze, it is not clear water but very muddy and dirty. The streets looked too clean. If the water level goes low in a drought, generally it does not leave parts of the river filled with water. The heat would have dried up the river bed. It is only when there is a sudden stop of flow somewhere upstream that it will cause patches of water on the dried up river.
So, the question is who and why is this video made?
Maybe “drought” is just an excuse for energy shortage. Remember just last year that we “know” that The Three Gorges were filled up to be brim. I have serious doubt that it is short of water now.
Actually – it might be real… but it’s nothing that out of the ordinary….
Google should not allow custom date searches…
China crisis over Yangtze river drought forces drastic dam measures
This article is more than 11 years old
Severe drought has forced China to release 5bn cubic metres from Three Gorges reservoir for irrigation and drinking water
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2011/may/25/china-drought-crisis-yangtze-dam
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/About/General/2011/5/25/1306319573887/Yangtze-river-dried-up-ch-007.jpg
The dried up Yangtze river in southwest China’s Chongqing municipality. The severe drought has forced a massive release of water from China’s Three Gorges reservoir for irrigation and drinking water. Photograph: STR/AFP/Getty
More photos from 2011
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/gallery/2011/may/25/drought-yangtze-river-china
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2011/5/25/1306326524862/Severe-drought-at-Hanjian-004.jpg
I agree that the video has been altered using computer graphics for effect, or else it is totally computer graphics.
But these photos look legit! As you can see, most of the stone on the riverbed is sharped-edged. There is no sign of the uniform pebble material that was shown in the video.
https://english.news.cn/20220819/0cd6ba1a6e5149298fcb84b575df9a8f/c.html
So I think the story of the low water level in Jialing River at Chongqing is true, but for some reason Al Jazeera decided to show fake video of the scene.
The mass media seems to be following a plan of “fake it till you break it or the audience can’t take it”. At this point they are not worried about their credibility but are deliberately broadcasting false or “augmented” reality and seeing what they can get away with.
Did I tell you there are at least two Joe Bidens appearing in the news? And apparently, nobody notices, nobody cares, nobody gives a damn about it. Continuity is so 20th century, so quaint, so out of the Ark, before the world was round, if you get my meaning.
Also, the beds of rivers of this size this far inland this close to the mountains would have areas covered in uniform small pebbles or aggregates, but when it comes to fist-sized pebbles or anything bigger, the distribution would be far from uniform. So I think the pebble scene is a dead giveaway that CG is at play.
Also, as you noted, the cars on the bridge look fake. They are far too clean for a start.
more cgi on the dried up Jailing river
Look at the footage between 15 and 20 seconds and note the variation in size among the pebbles and stones.
Then look at the shot of the pebbles in the previous Al Jazeera video and decide for yourself if they have the same size distribution, or if there is a vast con-spiracy at work on the riverbed!!!
at least one aspect of my life isn’t infected with conspiratitis
moon landing x 6 (1969/72)——-moonfakery (c2015)—look look–its obvious it was faked.
Why did they fake 6 landings—one would have been enough. Oops–too easy.
WTC goes down 2001—WTC fakery (c2015) look look its obviously faked.
two guys on motorbikes, racing through river shallows—look look–you can see its all cgi. It obvious. stones are different sizes. But that’s what a riverbed is—stones of different sizes. Laws of physics again.
a long time ago i thought you could be cured of conspiratitis Tim, now i know you are beyond salvation.
and if this registers on your insultometer–i suggest you get a new one. maybe less sensitive.
What about Operation Gladio norm – you know – the one where the CIA bombed and killed innocent people … and blamed it on the communists — what about that?
not possible to disguise conspiracy with something real that has no connection to the original ‘conspiracy’ eddy
well
i have it on certain authority that there are at least 6 Tim Groves.
5 are operational clones of the 6th, who was abducted by aliens 2 years ago
he was the one with a vestige of common sense, so surplus to earth-requirements
Speaking of abductions, did you all see how Anne Heche popped up on her stretcher and tried to get away from her rescuers?
Warning, once you’ve seen this, you can’t unsee it.
////Warning, once you’ve seen this, you can’t unsee it. ////
i have that problem a lot
particularly on OFW
This is similar to American Moon where they show the astronauts faking that they are in lunar orbit – and you can hear the director telling them to ‘speak’ hahahahaha
There is no denying that the dead person came back to life and tried to get up off the stretcher.
Unless you are norm… but we can’t understand what norm perceives…we cannot walk in his shoes… cuz norm has brain damage from the Fizer Shots…
How can we possibly imagine what that’s like given we are Pure Bloods.
It’s like a great stallion trying to understand what a cockroach thinks.
norm will have to see this
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https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/tesla-nio-ev-charging-stations-go-dark-china-rations-power
Tesla, Nio EV Charging Stations Go Dark As China Rations Power
People in Europe should be thinking through this issue as well. If people buy electric vehicles, they may not be able to charge them when they want to.
I know that gasoline stations (in the US, at least) are operated using electricity. So drivers of gasoline powered cars may have difficulty, as well, if electricity, in general, is cut off. But the driver of a gasoline or diesel powered vehicle will have a bigger reserve, on average, in his fuel tank than the driver of an EV will have in his battery.
With EVs, you can have your own solar installation (situation/space-permitting) and charge it even if the local grid goes out.
Plan ahead for this. Also, weather permitting.
yep – you just estimate how much diesel you will need to last you till you die … then install some of these.. along with a diesel generator (buy say 4 since you’ll need spare parts) ..
Then you’ll need an army to keep the dangerous mob from overrunning your position and stealing your diesel…
And you’ll need to work out how you stop your army from stealing your diesel…
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Have you done the maths?
How many panels are needed to recharge a small EV in 8 hours on a sunny day?
I have 12 x 300w panels that just manage to charge a small battery bank; nowhere near 20 kWh car.
I think a lot of people who have solar panels on their houses also need the juice for their houses . . . . If they are on the grid they can draw juice from the grid as needed, though.
Dmitry told Ivan this was possible…
Now imagine doing this is Russia – in winter! hahahahahahaha…
Your array is doable on slow charge If you got eight hours. Fast charge it would have to be doubled. A dedicated array going dc-dc and no batteries would make the the most sense. taking array power converting it to AC requiring batteries then converting it back to DC would be beyond moronic with its cost and losses. A dedicated dc-dc array actually makes sense considering the cost of the EV. It surly makes more sense than burning coal to turn a turbine to create AC power sending it down the grid with its infrastructure costs and losses and then regulating it back to dc to charge. Ill tell you right now a AC-DC charger is going to have a lot more losses and be a LOT more expensive than a dc-dc regulator to charge. Once again. What we need is light “ebikes” with four wheels and small enclosures.
In cold climates the whole thing is stupid. You cant just grab waste heat like a combustion engine. Your not going to insulate these things like a airliner and your going to pull a resistance load off the battery pak to heat? You just killed your range or doubled your battery pak. Me I would forgo heated cab put on polypro and insulated coveralls but soccer mom and kiddos aint going to get mad maxed up to get a quart of milk.
PS. Lastcall. Your battery bank is not small. Its the bomb.
Do you mind calculating how many solar panels you would need to charge an EV battery?
Of course you cannot directly charge it so you need a battery array that can be charged then you transfer that energy to the vehicle.
Do you mind to calculate the total cost involved? Please don’t forget to factor in all the land you need to purchase/rent for the panels + the annual taxes on the land…
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I have a small solar installation in the European Alps.
In summer I can hardly measure it’s efficiency because my needs are met within a few hours, I would estimate half of the nominal power is a realistic value. In winter I harvest during light hours, probably 8 hours per day, 0.7 watts per square meter or 0.05 ah per square meter.
In winter the problem of shadows on the panels grow so that you might not get full use for all light hours.
There are some extremely efficient LEDs that give more light than a candle with 12v*0.1ah=1.2wh.
If you want to load a 20kwh-car I guess you need 1.5 times, that is 30.000wh. To generate 30.000wh in 8 hours with 0.7wh in winter (panels cleaned and snow free!) you’d need roughly 5000sqm of high power panels.
Also in winter there are some sunny days and usually you have a battery bank with the capacity of 3x your daily needs that you hopefully load in a few hours of full sunshine. With RV installations you can drive a few kilometers to load the battery or repark the RV for less shades. That is not possible with a permanent installation.
So if you add a storage of 100.000wh you might do with 2000sqm of panel area to have that car loaded. That means roughly 200 good old lead acid batteries each 100ah, max. emptied half.
To wire 2000sqm you need to invest into thick cables because you will have some distances.
I’d say, don’t even try! Perhaps California or Spain is different.
You’ d only have to drive a loaf of cheese down to the next village once in a month.
Compared: A horse is also quite an option but a bit more work. But a bit less spare parts.
Horse paste comes to mind…
Do you factor in the cost of the land to your electricity bill? Lets be serious here not pad.
As always you can either pad or short the envelope when you look at EROI. Hall did good work on that. If your trying to be honest its still hard.
As a scrounger I will often short. Earlier I mentioned I had seen PV panels for .15 a watt. Im quite sure thats below the cost of the embodied energy in them although I havnt done the math.
If you must have fast charge where I live I think 9kw of panels would do it. PV power varies in different climates. This document gives a good breakdown. https://www.hindawi.com/journals/ijp/2017/7540250/ Where I live shitty used panels usually provide more power than their plate rating in full sun. Climate varies if its summer and there are thunderstorms (rain is a good thing) you lose quite a bit. The big commercial solar farms change all their orientations east not south depending on short term climate when thunderstorms prevail as well as their angle of incidence. Those mounts take $$$. Home owner?
So lets take a solar panel price that might be honest in terms of embodied energy. Buck a watt. Ive paid that and more back in the day. So 9kw is $9K. But the panels are only one part of the cost if you are pricing fairly on the embodied energy in materials. You have the mounts, wire disconnects and a dc-dc regulator to charge. Wild ass guess at least double. Add skilled labor triple. $30K.
If you are ok with slow charge- 8 hours 20kw vehicle- a 3kw array would suffice I think. that means the vehicle is only operable every other day. But thats true anyway even with a 9kw array with a classical work scenario . You are not going to be able to count on getting a full charge after getting home from work in summer let alone winter. If you work graveyard it would work. Working days you are going to have to fall back on grid.
Their are cloudy days. Sometimes all day. That means the vehicle is down without grid charge. No way the grid will support draw from everyone in EVs . Nada. Nahi. dii maak.
There are certainly applications where PV will support the continence of IC in a relatively short time frame. Evs are a fun project for geeks like me. Their implementation on any real scale depending on the grid are final nails in the IC coffin. The grid is a finite resource. Treating any finite resource as infinite depletes that resource rapidly.
PV is a awesome deal for someone who can scrounge and do self install where it is legal to provide household power. All the more so if some degree of conservation is applied requiring less infrastructure. A large heavy EV that tries to duplicate the excesses of a combustion vehicle does not provide benefits in terms of conservation and sustainability and actually works against those metrics in the extreme. Drop the weight and safety goes down. Or add 20 air bags with their cost. The plan to create heavy steel cage EVs for safety is moronic. Increasing public transportation with hubs is the only feasible plan for short term IC continuance if we accept its not “green” to transport heavy steel cages where we want on a whim. The politicians can not deliver all three- convenience safety and short term sustainability. So they lie If they dont they are not elected. This guarantees 100% liars in office whether its drill baby drill or a green paradise awaits.
Its pretty clear where we are going. The 1% get to move steel cages on whim. Everyone else not so much.
The thing is … if Mad Max was a possible outcome (it ain’t) the roads would quickly end up so rutted and pot holed that driving a car over them would be impossible…
It’s amazing how quickly roads go to pieces without repair crews maintaining them
The jingle could go something like
Hold … it’s coming to me… what’s that Fast? Not a jingle.. a song… what song… James Taylor… who? James Taylor… oh right ya… which song though… hum it for me Fast… hang on I know it .. let me search the lyrics… this? yes that… ok now add a bit at the end…
When you’re down and troubled and you need a helping hand
And nothing, whoa, nothing is going right
Close your eyes and think of me and soon I will be there
To brighten up even your darkest nights
You just call out my name, and you know wherever I am
I’ll come running, oh yeah baby, to see you again
Winter, spring, summer, or fall
All you got to do is call and I’ll be there, yeah, yeah, yeah
You’ve got a friend
If the sky… above you should turn dark and full of clouds
And that old north wind should begin to blow
Keep your head together and call my name out loud now
Soon I’ll be knocking upon your door
You just call out my name, and you know wherever I am
I’ll come running, oh yes I will, see you again
Winter, spring, summer, or fall, yeah
All you got to do is call and I’ll be there, yeah, yeah, yeah
Hey, ain’t it good to know that you’ve got a friend?
People can be so cold
They’ll hurt you and desert you
Well, they’ll take your soul if you let them
Oh yeah, but don’t you let them
You just call out my name, and you know where ever I am
I’ll come running to see you again
Oh baby, don’t you know about
Winter, spring, summer, or fall
Hey now, all you’ve got to do is call, Lord, I’ll be there, yes I will.
You’ve got a friend. You’ve got a friend, yeah
Ain’t it good to know you’ve got a friend
Ain’t it good to know you’ve got a friend
Oh, yeah, yeah, you’ve got a friend
Fentanyl… when you’re down and troubled… your best friend.
Comes in raspberry, blueberry, cherry and now bubble gum flavour. Take one to feel better – or two to permanently solve all your troubles.
Fentanyl… your best friend – always there for you!
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I think the no more sales in 13 years of ICE cars by California is of course nonsense. They always say this economic plan will “grow us out of the deficit in ten years,” but never will tackle the issue during their term. The push for EVs is yet another way of keeping people on an energy/ mobility leash, as all it takes is a flick of the switch to cut off the electricity to charge your car. You’ve got maybe 300 miles on that battery baby. And how many solar panels are you going to set up on your property with houses crammed in lots like sardines in order to run your frig, ac, and charge your EV?
We need a parody of the song by the Mamas and the Papas called “California Dreaming.”
The transition to EV’s is about cutting the global fleet by 80%. They have no intention to replace the 1 billion cars on the road today. EV’s is the carrot to lead the masses down a road they’d never willingly go. The ruling class is using NLP techniques and behavioural techniques to accomplish their goals. Capitalism needs growth, growth needs cheap, plentiful oil. Cheap meaning energy invested. Growth died circa 2008. The economic system has been on pause since then a la QE. The ruling class must transfer all the useless paper (stocks, bonds, etc) into something of value(land, housing, ESG, etc). Hence, the stake-holder terminology of the WEF. In the new economic system the masses will be financialized.
Followed you up to the last two sentences. And how can EV’s transport goods to all the people who are “financialized?”
So we are transitioning to BAU Lite?
This is very amusing assuming it’s true.
You will enjoy this https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/p/reanalysis-of-the-society-of-actuaries/
We can greatly reduce power consumption to a level where hydro energy and nuclear energy are enough to balance intermittency of renewable energy.
At homes we need a refrigerator, a multicooker and all other energy sources can be done without. In transport we can do without private cars. Trucks, buses and bicycles are necessary. I lived for 14 years in a time in Albania when there were no private cars. We used a bicycle for intra-urban travel and buses, trains for inter-urban travels.
As for agriculture, humanure, nitrogen fixing bacteria can replace chemical fertilizers. Urban workers can seasonably work in agriculture to replace mechanised work.
Humans will become inventinve.
Urban workers will most certainly not replace mechanised stuff on farms,
Why not?
Because a gallon of petrol carries to same work-output of 50 men
Put 50 men to work in a field, and yes, they will produce food. But 90% of that food (at least) has to feed the workers themselves, only 10% is left over to support everybody else.
We don’t want to live in a Hoxha type society thanks
“We don’t want to live in a Hoxha type society thanks”
We may have to.
So, learn how to live that way.
Doesn’t mean Hoxha is in charge, silly!
As for 90% of energy used to feed the workers, that is of course fine. The point is sustainability, not profit. Feeding people
Be that as it may, a 10% percent surplus would certainly have tempted an old-time chieftain.
Our current system uses huge multiples of the calories in one pound of food to produce that pound of food. .
Jane
i did say ”Hoxha -type”
and a 10% surplus was what did sustain old time chieftains
Hydro is a localized resource. It tends to be quite seasonal, with spring being highest. Some parts of the world have “rainy seasons” and “dry seasons.” Except for cold places like Norway and Iceland, it is not possible to depend on very much hydroelectric power. Some water can be stored behind a dam, but even this doesn’t work after an extended dry period.
Nuclear power plants are only built in certain parts of the world. They tend to be built near oceans or rivers, so water can be used for cooling. They take quite a bit of ongoing maintenance, or they cause problems. Look at France.
There are many other issues. One is that roads need to be maintained. Another is electricity transmission lines need to be built and maintained. Another is that pipes of all kinds (water and sewer, oil and natural gas) need to be built and maintained. If electricity transmission is taken down in a storm, someone needs to fix it. Ultimately, a system of international trade, with lots of ships, is needed.
Unfortunately, reducing home residential electricity use doesn’t do a whole lot for fixing the overall system.
In the Alps the rivers now used for hydropower historically were used to transport wood to the cities.
Venice is build on trunks from the Carnic Alps, what is now East Tyrol. Vienna is build with bars from the Alps and the Bohemian Forest. There was a narrow canal from Bohemia to Vienna, which even led across a watershed.
We can’t do both. Either hydropower or trunk transport. There is no possibility to carry trunks by horse like we carry them by lorry.
“We can greatly reduce power consumption to a level where hydro energy and nuclear energy are enough to balance intermittency of renewable energy.”
Agreed. But it will require a 90% reduction in population, and a 90% reduction in average energy use of the remaining 10%. Then we are good to go.
Also we could be making better use of the nuclear waste cooling ponds. They are pretty warm. As public swimming pools close down because we cannot afford to heat them, open up the cooling ponds as substitute swimming pools.
Surely at the top of the pond the radiation is tolerable. but the temperature is not, and anyway a single dive with a snorkel will kill you.
Bingo, as time goes by some will develop fins and flippers.
Transhumanism via a new path.
At least use it as a heating area for the old and poor.
Oh what the hell… let’s just go Full DelusiSTANI… whatever spews out of the feeble mind of a green groopie — is possible
Epic delusional thoughts
aka a Fairy Tale
I agree that there would be opportunities. I don’t agree that there are opportunities.
Imagine there would be an ideal replacement for fossile fuels, let’s think of a machine in your cellar or bedroom that delivers free energy. How many years would be needed to build, sell and install them all worldwide? 10 years? Do we have 10 years?
There are techniques to fix nitrogen by bacteria. It is called composting. If we want to replace an agriculture where the soil has degenerated into a pure holding medium with an angriculture where the soil creates and binds minerals, water and nitrogen we should need some years for deployment. If we would start today, how many years would it take? 10 years? Do we have 10 years?
You are wrong, you don’t need a refrigerator and a multicooker. You can easily store cooled bought food in an isolated box for a few hours. Cooking is done most efficiently on a small gas stove, if it is for everyday tea and fried veggies and meat. To generate hot water, that definitely is needed for hygiene, to cook goulash, potatoes or bake bread you need a stronger source. The Romans had public baths, the Middle Ages saw communal bread ovens, in Asia there are a lot of street kitchen. Electricity has many advantages, first of all you can implement some security logics for stupid users and it won’t light a fire so easily. But the transportation of electricity is not very efficient.
Times in Albania, where you went by bike, were already fossile times. As a boy I went to school by bike 15kms one way – in snow and rain. Some friends my age used to WALK to school 14kms one way. Can you imagine walking 28kms per day to go to school? That is roughly 4 hours. Discuss it with your kids, I’d be interested!
If there is no private transport the bus drivers cannot go to work. They must live closely to their depots. If you want to relocate workers to seasonably to work in agriculture you need a double infrastructure.
In the Eastern European Countries but also in Germany or Austria there had been a lot of part-time farmers or gardeners. Gardens now have to be paid like building land, so noone can afford it in the bubble.
If we bet on self-sufficiency and less energy spending people have to move to the countryside – and are not available to work in the cities. Commuting is for the rich. Don’t believe you can commute 100kms per day by bike. It means we would go back in history. Do you know how people lived 200 years ago in Europe? Most people did not have any bed for their own and slept in the straw. Productivity would fall drastically. The population numbers too.
Europe is much higher populated than other countries. In the USA, Austrialia, Canada or even Finnland you need private transportation to shop or reach a doctor. Otherwise you’d live like the Amish.
I agree that there are opportunities. But if there were, how many years would we need to deploy them? 10 years? Do we have 10 years?
I disagree with the idea that people develop creativity when they get poor. It is not the poor countries that are the most innovative. Poor countries develop improvisations but not innovations.
So if there were opportunities, wouldn’t it be time to seize them – instead of locking down our countries and praying to the big injection?
i’m not too conversant with the social history of Albania, but I’d be very surprised in President Hoxha rode to work on a bike.
You have to take a break, because you seem to be in a manic episode, having disorganised speech. Keep a diet, sleep well. When it is over, come back.
Gail is not responding to your comments, so I suppose she is irritated by the flood of your comments distracting from the topic.
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looks like you’ve been sussed eddy
Yep Rita who just informed me that collapse is a survivable event … has sussed FE.
hahahahahaha… finally you posted something funny norm
It may seem manic and disorganized…. but there’s 1500HP powering these railways of thought… the genius of it will not be recognized by most …
That is to be expected.
That is not something that Fast Eddy considers… a problem
Who’s excited to see what Tommy Robinson has for us on Telegram?
‘I am I am!!!’ blurts out norm
You’ll have to wait norm… FE is not ready to reveal.
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(Times of Israel)
“Israeli study shows Pfizer COVID pill of no benefit in younger adults.
Results from 109,000-patient study show drug still reduces risk of hospitalization, death for high-risk seniors, raises questions on use in US, where it has become a go-to treatment”
https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-study-shows-pfizer-covid-pill-of-no-benefit-in-younger-adults/
Reduces the risk of hospitalization for increasingly shorter time periods so you need more injections … but the injections are maiming and killing epic numbers of people + they are giving them VAIDS … which results in all sorts of opportunistic diseases including cancer to invade your body.
Oh and did I mention the more you boost the more likely you are to get severe covid – most of the hospitalizations and deaths involve fully boosted imbeciles… that’s what we call Negative Efficacy hahahaaha
BTW – the instructor at the gym seems to not have a heart problem – she is having seizures… serious seizures that cause her to collapse … she had another one today … 2 for 2…
As we know – Fizer gets into the brain … heaven forbid she has the human mad cow disease …. what’s it called? … Jacob’s something … that’s progressive… and rapid…
Stay tuned for more on this Developing Disaster.
“Dr Richard M Fleming
@Doctor_I_am_The
Questions about the prion diseases McCairn and I have been talking about? Let’s look at the CDC excess deaths data. There we go. Been talking about this for a year and a half.” ?
https://twitter.com/Doctor_I_am_The/status/1562599925451739136?s=20&t=XmhdvcH1_5-q5GCibAqqKw
I wonder if the Collapsing Fitness Instructor has folding prions while will lead to Insanity in the Membrane… and mental illness followed by melting brain syndrome and death? That would be a Biggie … it would spread through the Grape Vines of QT
Not to worry Eddy, ya got yer chickens and ya got yer eggs. Always hard to unscramble them, but …
Correlation between CNS Tuberculosis and the COVID-19 Pandemic: The Neurological and Therapeutic Insights
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32880441/
Various clinical features related to the central nervous system (CNS) and peripheral nervous system (PNS) due to COVID-19 infection are now identified. We demonstrate here an apparent similarity in neurological disorders of COVID-19 with CNS tuberculosis, which suggests that some anti-tubercular drugs may be used as therapeutic agents against COVID-19 infection.
Lots of (cheap) potential therapeutic agents. The pharmaceutical industry would prefer expensive new drugs and vaccines.
…. that don’t work
I must admit to experiencing great (morbid) curiosity with respect to the exact kill mechanism of these injections.
It’s bordering on fascination.
Retinoic acid induces antimicrobial peptides and cytokines leading to Mycobacterium tuberculosis elimination in airway epithelial cells.
PMID: 34033876
You never know, but there’s also this following aspect of retinoic acid delivery that has been studied and developed for a long time.
Preparation of solid lipid nanoparticles loaded with all-trans retinoic acid and their evaluation in vitro and in vivo.
2005 Jan
PMID: 15881775 Chinese.
AIM: To prepare solid lipid nanoparticles (SLN) loaded with all trans retinoic acid using an ultrasonic technique with Compritol 888 ATO as matrix material, and investigate properties of nanoparticles in vitro and in vivo.
I have to circle back to Bossche… if they had some sort of kill shot then they’d not have to continually push more boosters…
We know the shots are causing mutations … as is Paxlovid … so the end goal would appear to be the Marek’s like outcome.
That would create the level of fear required to convinced the hordes to tightly lock down and starve.
This is a story about Paxlovid, the drug Pfizer put out to help reduce symptoms of people who are already sick with Covid.
This is Fast Eddy type I, hopelessly romantic and clutching pearls whenever someone young is bumped off in the great global die off. He is a bit of self-righteousness, much like the type of people you find in modern western academia. Those grains could have kept a yemenite alive. Stay tuned for type II.
The only thing that can force countries around the world to sell their precious nonrenewable energy resources for increasingly worthless printed money (dollars, euros) is military power and as amply demonstrated in the Ukraine and in the Taiwan Strait, that power is pretty well clapped out. The relevant discipline to understanding this predicament is not economics but political economy and military analysis. Gail, you seem to be stuck in the Western Sandbox, which is less than a quarter of the world’s population and 0% of economic growth, with poor overall prospects. You need to look outside it to see what’s really going on.
Thanks for your insights, Dmitry. My readership is mostly western. (As many readers know, Dmitry Orlov has been analyzing these issues longer than I have. He now lives in Russia.)
I agree military power is important in all of this. The military forces of advanced countries are very much aware of the energy problem. They may act in a different way than the political leaders claim they can. I wrote an earlier article called The world has a crude oil problem; expect conflict ahead.
Thank you very much Gail. I think that your articles, even if they are from the Western world, are globalist. Orlov may be right, producing countries have what the world needs, computer money is worthless in a world of scarcity. But when productive capacity falls sharply and global trade chains break down further, it will affect all countries, Western and all.
Orlov is a clueless clown… he has fantasies about Vlad impaling him…. Russia is just as f789ed as every other country .. they will starve.
Dmitry, you should stop by more often.
I enjoyed Shrinking the Technosphere. I later noted that (ecologist) Edward Goldsmith had (perhaps) coined the term. I found this
https://rightlivelihood.org/speech/acceptance-speech-edward-goldsmith/
Overshoot is a side topic here though. Prospects? Like picking a bucket to go to hell in. 😉
Thanks for your work.
Mark
Hi, Dmitry, nice to see you at here.
Will he stay?
Fast Eddy is very much like a gigantic Great White Shark… but with a 1500HP engine up top churning out monumental BTUs of intellectual capacity… And like a White HE is constantly on the move (otherwise he overheats)… in search of weakness.. sniffing for injury-signalling blood… HE tears flesh when HE strikes (biting is for dogs)
Dmitry, you brought a very interesting point.
Bill Gaede has argued for years that human extinction will take place because the food producers won’t sell their food when money becomes worthless. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKAagryuFA4 https://www.academia.edu/28866480/We_are_the_last_generation_of_humans_on_Earth_Proc_Int_Oxford_Apocalypse_Conf_Prague_2016_
At some point only food mattes, and the producers won’t really produce anything to be consumed by others. They won’t even produce for their children whom they will see as the competition for their food
That is only the case if property rights could be maintained, while the state fails to provide food to everyone. That is an illusion. The masses would run to the countryside, massacre the owners and start buiding crops and raising cattle. Perhaps cattle is more easily to defend in times of chaos.
Property rights are over in the moment the state of justice fails. Could be a failure like mandatory death-vaxxing!
all conflict carries with it the underlying forces of resource grab.
Land, food, fuels, metals, women;
the actual commodity is irrelevant, only that it must be ‘acquired’ to the detriment of lesser peoples.
then comes the final twist, which no one sees until conquest is done:
that war destroys that which is being fought over.
I’m not talking to Norman, so somebody please tell him that a conflict is a serious disagreement or argument, typically a protracted one, so does not necessarily involve the grabbing or attempted gabbing of resources of any kind.
Tell him he’s wrong there! Tell him he’s being pompous too! And tell him it wouldn’t be so bad if he was pompous but making a valid point, but that being pompous and wrong is intolerable!
I would tell him myself, but I’m not talking to him at the moment.
Mr Groves might eventually absorb the reality, that arguments between neighbours are usually about some ‘infringement’ or other, road rage is because the other driver is an idiot who wants the rectangle of road you happen to be currently driving on.
The missis hits you over the head because, a, you are occupying too much of her life, or b, she wants to cash your insurance. (and run away with her lover). Or maybe she can afford a professional assassin. Resources again.
And so on. The motivation for aggression is a common trait.
Conflict between nations is just a magnified version of the above.
From Mr Groves’ lofty perch of unpomposity, perhaps he would like to inform me of a war that was not fought over resources, and the commodities listed above.
Not very often, but wars have been fought for purely political or ideological reasons, for no other gain than prestige or honor. Examples:
The Football War between Honduras and El Salvador in 1969.
The Cambodia-Vietnam War in 1978.
you are stretching things a bit JMS
having never heard of the football war, I looked it up—
I quote:
“To a very large extent this war was all about available land, too many people in too small a place, and the ruling oligarchy simply fuelling the fire in connection with the press,” said Dan Hagedorn, author of The 100 Hour War, which details the conflict.
I think I can rest my case…I don’t think I need to check the Vietnam Cambodia war do I?
Football War was clearly a poorly chosen example, you are right about that. But the Cambodia-Vietnam war was clearly motivated by ideological and even humanitarian reasons. AFAIK there was no looting or conquest there.
In any case, it’s not true that all wars are just about resources. In Paleolithic societies honor and prestige is the main driver of war (skirmishes in their case). And in medieval culture there is at least one example of a battle fought more for reasons of glory and prestige than pillage and conques: the Battle of Alcácer Kibir.
Am i being nitpicky? I don’t care.
@ norman
The 100 Hour War
Dan Hagedorn, Mario Overall
https://b-ok.asia/book/21125249/f66dc2
Tell Norman (because I am still not talking to him!) that he is being disingenuous in moving the goalposts in a cowardly attempt to slither out of admitting that he was wrong to assert that “all conflict carries with it the underlying forces of resource grab”— his words, not mine.
The sleight of hand he has chosen to employ in his duplicitous attempt to avoid saying “! was wr…, I was wro… I was w… w… w…, wron…g there!” is to imply that all conflict involves or is equivalent to war.
It isn’t! Not even close. People don’t go to war every time their opinions or interests or viewpoints are in conflict. And they don’t go to war with themselves every time there is a conflict in their own minds. Not even one percent of the time.
Tell Norman that if he can’t comprehend this, then there is no point in trying to discus anything with him. He may not comprehend this either, and he may continue to hurl insults and put-downs like the proverbial squid squirting ink into the water around it to cover its escape, while simultaneously announcing to the world what a polite and reasonable and decent fellow he is for not stooping down to FE’s level.
And yet FE’s approach has a lot going for it. For a start, it is honest. He doesn’t mince words. He calls a Moreon a Moreon and a Delusistani a Delusistanti. And secondly, his taunting attacks are so over the top that everybody knows he doesn’t mean it.
Contrast this behavior with Norman’s approach, which is to make highly precise but at the same time inaccurate claims, and then, when called on them—as he should be, because inaccurate claims left unchallenged are implicitly approved, and that’s exactly how Nasty Germany or Bushean Amerika started—but I digress—when called on them, he prevaricates, dodges, beats about the bush, walks you up and down the garden path, enters the labyrinth even, bringing all kinds of irrelevancies into the argument, and lastly, but by no means lastly, makes sly and not so sly attacks on the character, reputation, and even the sanity of the person pointing out the inaccuracy of his claims.
He is a serial offender at this game, and besides myself, FE and Xabier have both suffered the indignity of having to get down in the mud to wrestle with him.
I’m not asking for sympathy and I am not asking for a medal. I am not even asking for any “likes” for this comment. Not being against free speech, I don’t want to see him banned. And knowing that a leopard can’t change his spots and you can’t teach an old dog, new tricks, I don’t even hold out any expectation that he will mend his cantankerous ways.
I just want to make it clear that Norman’s modus operandi is unacceptable and intolerable to me personally and that I think it should be to all lovers of truth, beauty, honour, duty, dignity, honesty, cricket, apple pie, and logical consistency in non-fiction prose writing.
Tell Norman that (because I’m still not talking to him)!
We definitely don’t want norm banned… he’s our injection experiment … we want him around till he goes down and disappears from OFW…
till then norm is our very own disgrace..our whipping boy!
I regard dear old Norm’s posts as a spiritual test: if I can read his intellectually dishonest, smug, complacent generalisations and smears without my blood boiling I feel assured that I am – in some modest way – approaching Enlightenment, unworthy as I am.
as a mass murderer Xabier, I will be only too glad to add you to my list.
But it absorbs a lot of energy to bump people off in quantity.
So there might be a delay—are you ok with that?
norm … do the fellas at the pub refer to you as a ‘wanker’…?
11.39 uk time–today’s first sighting of the lesser spotted eddywit.
That goes on the list I have to send to Attenborough every day now.
Its getting exciting, I think there’s a chance you might get featured in National Geographic eddy
if someone disagrees with me—i dont take it as an insult.
that as far as i can recall, is the extent of my ‘insult’ to anyone. I don’t scream faux-obscenities at anyone, or offer se xual innuendo, or as in the case of dear Xabier below, make accusations of being a mass murderer. ???
One can only react to that with amusement. What else could there be?
all this is just amusement, because it reveals the character of the person i’m dealing with. I enjoy that. My own character is far from flawless. But neither am I the caster of the first stone.
The clickbaiters, the Alex Jones fan club, the covidrama queens, the moonlunatics, the climate unchangers.—disagreement with the above constitutes ‘insult’. Tough.
adults debate as adults—they don’t have tantrums. Try it sometime.
One of the main points Catton makes in “Overshoot” is that overpopulation increases the level of irritation and aggravation we feel from our co-specifics in our range.
I have long maintained that the only reason we in the USA have survived with a relative low level of conflict is that we are space junkies and have relatively much personal space around us and our families. Cram us together, and watch out.
This goes for any-size entity.
A conflict may seem to be “purely ideological,” but humans are very talented at making up narratives to cover their tracks—even to themselves.
How many people have swallowed the Ukraine Kool-Aid? Actually, Russia was very kind and considerate to Ukraine for decades—probably its only friend, actually. Factions within Ukr allied themselves with American and other oligarchs in order to enrich themselves. Of course the American oligarchs and corporations have eyes only to enrich themselves from Ukraine’s valuable resources, especially its agricultural lands. Why would Russia stand by and let this happen after all it has done for Ukriane, quite apart from the ongoing genocide in teh Donbass?
Re grab of agricultural lands, check this out (William Engdahl):
https://journal-neo.org/2022/08/18/whose-grain-is-being-shipped-from-ukraine/
Jane, have you never heard of the Holodomor? It was caused by Stalin taking the Ukrainians’ grain and starving many of them, in order to finance the building of the Soviet industrial infrastructure on the cheap. The Ukrainians’ grievances run deep and continued to resonate across the decades.
Let’s remember a few inconvenient facts. Stalin was a Georgian, not a Russian.
Also, the higher ranks of his regime were populated largely by sadists and psychopaths of many ethnicities. Ethnicity was not a major consideration for Stalin, apparently. He was an equal opportunity dictator. If you had the right stuff, the requisite passion, and you were willing, nay, eager to be an executor, then you were in.
And, unlike Putin, Stalin was a real dictator, not a leader bound by the dictates of a parliament.
And let’s remember the Holodomor too. Have you never heard that it was part of the wider Soviet famine of 1932–1933 which affected the major grain-producing areas of the USSR.
So, starve to death in Ukraine and you were part of the Holodomor, starve to death in Russia, Belarus or elsewhere in the Soviet Union at the same time, and you are just a statistic.
I’m informed that scholarly opinion has it that around 20 million Soviet citizens were killed due to the actions of the government in the Soviet Union, the overwhelming majority of whom were Russian. Don’t those Russian deaths matter?
Do you even know or care how many people starved under Stalin’s rule or why they starved? Or how many were shot? Or beaten to death? Or died of disease, overwork, or cold? Do you joust want to use the deaths in the 1930s to score points against Putin? Because that’s how it looks to me, from the tone of your comments so far.
Your implication is that the Holodomor was a Russian genocide carried out against Ukrainians. In fact, it was a consequence of Communist government policies. The Russian people were every bit as much victims of the terroristic regime imposed by the Bolsheviks after they formed the Soviet Union.
Go back and read some real history. And then go back and read some more. Because history repeats itself, first as tragedy, then as farce, and finally as costume drama; and those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it endlessly on cable TV.
Do you really think that if Stalin was invading Ukraine, that he would have allowed that country to keep its electricity distribution, food distribution and water systems functioning?
https://www.amazon.com/Stalin-His-Hangmen-Tyrant-Killed/dp/0375506322/ref=cm_cr_srp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
My understanding of that famine (I think I read about it in this book https://www.audible.com/pd/Caught-in-the-Revolution-Audiobook)
Is that the Ukey’s were resisting collectivization (as one would) so Stalin said – f789 them — starve them.
I am not sure but I suspect the same dynamic played out in other parts of Russia (Ukraine is a part of Russia – Kiev used to be the Russian capital city) … as no doubt many would not buy into communism cuz it sucks – so you starve them into complying.
@Tim, facts are never inconvenient. Stalin was indeed Georgian but also identified as a Great Russian and compared himself to certain Tsars. He headed a state that was majority Slav-controlled, and of the Slavs, the Russians were the most numerous.
Stalin was not in every sense an “equal opportunity dictator”. Read “Bloodlands” by Timothy Snyder and discover that Stalin held definite grudges against Ukrainians and Poles and treated them more harshly during his Great Terror of the late 1930s.
I’m well aware of how many Russians suffered horrifically and were killed in Stalin’s and indeed Lenin’s Russia. But the Ukrainians suffered far more, proportionately, than the other Slavs – again, read “Bloodlands” for the details.
“Do you just want to use the deaths in the 1930s to score points against Putin? Because that’s how it looks to me, from the tone of your comments so far.” Gee, thank you for your pious tone, Mr Tim. My comments in this post were to give some understanding of how it looked to the Ukrainians. I remember this guy I spoke to in the 1980s. He was English but his father had been born in Poland in 1920. His father was ethnic Ukrainian. In late 1939, he suddenly found himself in the Soviet Union, due to the politics of the time. He did not like this, did not like communism, and eventually joined the Galician Division of the Waffen-SS, whereas his brother fought for Stalin. So history is complex, Mr Tim. Go read some. That guy fought for AH not because he was a Nazi, but because the Nazis presented themselves as particularly anti-Soviet and anti-Russian – remember the phrase “my enemy’s enemy is my friend!”
So back to the present. I have read about the Maidan in 2014. US intervention caused a coup that favored extremist ethnic Ukrainian nationalists who discriminated against ethnic Russians. Snipers (probably CIA-sponsored) caused mayhem and death on the Maidan and escalated the situation badly. Then also in 2014 there was Odessa and the horrific deaths. I’ve seen the film of the young ethnic Ukrainian women cheerfully preparing petrol bombs, then the flames, and the charred mutilated corpses of the ethnic Russians. Putin felt threatened by all this on his doorstep and took Crimea. Later the Ukrainians shelled the Donbass. But Putin certainly helped to stir up the unrest in the Donbass. Like certain Western politicians, he is no saint. And that is why I criticize him. In fact, you don’t see my full criticisms because Gail deletes them. FE can call the NZ PM “donkey face”, but Gail will seemingly not tolerate similar criticism of Putin.
Back to the present. There is one commenter who continuously posts biasedly and excitedly in favor of Putin. It seems that that person wants to big themself up. Previously, it seems, as you once pointed out, that person supported the little nationalists against the big guys so comes across as hypocritical. In fact, after 6 months Putin is still nowhere victory. Ultimately I believe he will win a small chunk of Ukraine. But realistically the situation on the ground points to months of stalemate. The US is pouring weapons into Ukraine – that’s the military-industrial complex getting involved. Big profits, then, for the weapons industry, in which Western politicians hold many shares, so you just know the war will be prolonged.
If I criticise Putin here, it’s because nobody else does. There are no good guys in this drama, apart from the suffering civilians, including those in the Donbass and those wretched Russians who were drafted against their will. Both sides have lost a lot of military equipment and personnel, and Russia was already depopulating as regards its young military-read men. Where stands the future? It’s certainly not as one-sided as one commenter excitedly presents it.
And as wars progress and escalate, people forget right and wrong. They take sides, and usually their own side, right or wrong. It’s a natural human survival instinct, and I feel it too. Yes, I know it could have been so different. Putin asked to join NATO some years ago. I would have been in favor, then it would have been onward and upward to the Intergalactic Federation! But sadly, we know what we humans are like. Now we are wasting our diminishing resources on weapons and on destroying precious infrastructure. The only dubious plus is that there will be fewer mouths to feed, after the victims of the war succumb.
In sum, yes, I have certain biases. But don’t all humans, Tim? So go and read some history – I suggest “Bloodlands”.
Synder comes across as a typical western propagandist. He recommends Luke Harding and Harding has been caught out so many times with his lies it’s embarrassing(he apparently has no shame though).
https://twitter.com/TimothyDSnyder/status/1556372906233499648?s=20&t=zEYzjHI6fqndUruzrpzNqA
We have to considered that what we read might also be propaganda, exaggerated multiple times throughout the years, by paid people like Snider and Harding?
The British and US Security services do have a rather dark history in this regard.
A different view, for balance.
https://lenabloch.medium.com/lies-concerning-the-history-of-the-soviet-union-56bff2a6689a
Your attacks on mirror just make you look the mirror image of that you claim to detest, which is a shame, as there was some thoughtful comments in your post.
Maybe we should all learn to stop being so easily led into taking sides.
I wrote:
“Russia was already depopulating as regards its young military-read men”
but meant “military-age men”.
“I have long maintained that the only reason we in the USA have survived with a relative low level of conflict”
https://ussanews.com/2022/08/08/the-murder-rate-per-capita-in-chicago-is-higher-than-the-civilian-death-rate-per-capita-from-the-ukraine-russia-war/
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I liked that comment, fromoasa, because it was well-thought out and packed with interesting observations! Thanks for making the effort.
I don’t know nearly as much as I should about Ukraine or Russia or Eastern Europe on the whole as I should.
I also appreciate that it is good to have some reasonable and measured criticism of Putin that falls somewhere between adoration and demonization. So thanks for that.
My stance towards Putin is similar to my stance towards Trump—I enjoy the fact that both men drive their detractors to derangement. Norman (who I am talking to again because we have have a duty to be kind to our senior citizens in their twilight years) mistakes this stance for fandom. His grasp of reality is not very nuanced or subtle. I imagine life is like one long cartoon time for him.
I am wondering if Stalin identifying as a Great Russian was a bit like Rachael Lavine identifying as female?
There are quite a few examples of outsiders coming in and leading nations in war. Off the top of my head, Napolean (a Corsican, barely French at best), Adolf H. (an Austrian who no doubt identified as a Great German),
Radovan Karadžić (born in Montenegro but led the Bosnian Serbs under the logic that it is better to boss in Bosnia than to serve in Serbia), Barak Obama (born who knows where, or possibly hatched out of an egg!!)…
What I would like to know, but can’t muster the diligence to find out, is how did the Georgian Great Russian Joe Stalin regard the ethnic Russian population of Ukraine in the 1920s and 30s? Did he say to himself, I’ll starve these people in the west because I don’t like ethnic Ukranians but I’ll take care of these people in the east because I’m rather fond of ethnic Russians, as I am of cats and children?
Moreover, did ethnic Russians in Ukraine fare any better than Ethnic Ukrainians there? And we should also bear in mind that a lot of what is now Western Ukraine was Polish back in the 1920s and 30s. Some was Romanian and some was Czechoslovakian too. While Crimea was Russian.
https://miliza7.ucoz.ru/_pu/0/18138615.jpg
my gratitude knows no bounds Tim
next time you pass by, i shall(by your good grace) reach out and try to touch the hem of your raiment.
if by chance you should toss a coin in my begging cup, i shall never spend it, but hang it round my neck as a charm to keep away evil doers and those afflicted with conspiratitis.
Tim, don’t take this for gospel, but here are my thoughts. Ukraine was the breadbasket of Europe, and Stalin wished to take more grain from it to feed his people and also to sell abroad, so that the increased profits would enable the USSR to industrialize.
To rationalize agriculture, he set up collective farms and confiscated animals and tools etc. from individual peasant families in order to supply the collectives. Human nature being what it is, the peasants did not like this one bit and rebelled. Often they would kill their livestock rather than give it up to the communists, and they hoarded and kept their grain too, where possible. Stalin therefore came down very severely on them because they were defying him.
Stalin had studied Russian literature and culture at his Georgian school in the Russian empire. He grew up a great Russophile and identified as part Russian through his experiences during the Russian civil war and revolution and his time in the Communist Party, but he still remained intensely proud of being Georgian, and of Georgia and its history.
Poland had taken a considerable amount of territory off Russia in their wars directly after the First World War. Stalin held a grudge against Poland for this. Also, many ethnic Ukrainians and Belarussians lived in Poland before it was divided up in 1939. Stalin craved their return. But being paranoid, he also greatly distrusted any nationals who had lived in the West. Many German, Polish and Ukrainian communists who fled to the Soviet Union in the 1930s were imprisoned or executed during the Great Terror, due to Stalin’s increasing paranoia. His treatment of the Ukrainians was therefore influenced both by his paranoia and by his desire to confiscate the greater part of their grain.
Stalin regarded Russians as the leading nation of the Soviet Union, and he began a policy of Russification in the 1930s, in order to discourage ethnic nationalism and develop a Soviet culture with Russia as a template. He considered that this would encourage unity and make the USSR easier to manage. Also from a personal power perspective a person like Stalin would have wanted to align himself with the leading ethnicity of the USSR.
How did he regard the ethnic Russian population of Ukraine in the 1920s and 30s? I don’t know particularly, but in general he regarded ethnic Russians as more trustworthy and less likely to rebel against him. Depending on the needs of the revolution, there could be very different outcomes even within one family. One young Ukrainian recalled how the Party gave him the opportunity to become an engineer, which he gratefully grabbed, successfully. However, his parents were deemed kulaks (rich peasants, though hardly rich in Western terms), and therefore class enemies, so they were sent to the labor camps, where they eventually perished.
“did ethnic Russians in Ukraine fare any better than Ethnic Ukrainians there?” That I don’t know either, apart from my general thoughts that Stalin trusted Russians more, and it depended also on how rebellious a peasant was or whether he willingly submitted to the collectives.
Stalin admired the harshness of Peter the Great and consciously modeled his cruelty on that Tsar’s. To that extent he also self-identified as Russian. After all, he was the leading politician of a state where Russians were the leading ethnicity, so that made sense.
Tell that to Liz Truss, she seems keen to press the button..!!
dont see the connection
You lost me at 0% economic growth. Where is the economy growing? It is contracting everywhere, including China, at best stagnant in Russia (where I live), so what is the point of that statement? It seems to me that wherever I look I see the same picture.
Russia won’t be affected by the collapse of every other country.
Cuz.
Huh?
Cuz… Cuz.
Ah ok.
I think this misses the point. What do you think the West is fighting over? Access to cheap resources. There was a book called “The Grand Chessboard – American Primacy and its Geostrategic Imperatives” which lays this all out.
I also think accusing Gail of being “stuck in the Western Sandbox” is poor form. Anyone who has followed her work knows she incorporates global data.
Westerners typically have an odd ideational relationship to military power, and to power generally.
Existence depends on it in ways that they are not ‘comfortable’ with and they tend to deny that it is so. It is a part of how they try to look like ‘good’ people in front of others and to themselves.
At the same time, the states on which they depend for their existence just go ahead with the exercise of military power anyway, and they spin it to the ‘plebs’ as being ‘morally justified’, as if what is happening is really some ‘moral drama’ rather than the exercise of power in the real world.
Westerners are getting to the point where they are not comfortable even with basic organic drives, and the expansion of domination, violation and exploitation that life depends upon. It is like they wish to live in some ‘other world’ where none of that applies. They were encouraged to imagine that ‘modern civilisation’ was headed that way.
Arguably it is simply an exhausted people who are well on the way out, and the only reason why they still exist at all is because of the ‘cynicism and hypocrisy’ of the states who keep them alive in the real world.
As you suggest, that is no longer going to work for them either, because of the relative military decline of the West.
The ‘response’ of many Westerners, especially on here, will be to just go into deeper and deeper denial about how the world works, and the reality of the situation. They will maintain that they are ‘better’ than everyone else in purely imaginary ways like the ‘moral’.
The hard fact is that ‘angels’ do not actually exist in this world and Westerners who try to pose as them are not going to exist in this world either once the states are weakened and they stop doing the real job for them.
Some of them are getting to the point where they insist that human ‘extinction’ is a ‘good’ thing, and they console themselves that it is going to happen to everyone, which is a common, primal way of psychologically ‘coping’ when you are losing – an inherited form of denial.
It is what it is. Good luck to Russia and China, hopefully they can stay in touch with reality and make it work for them. This lot are exhausted, and they end as soon as the state ‘hypocrisy’ stops working for them.
Not that _everyone_ in the West is like that – but as you suggest, it is going to be real power, and military power in particular, that makes the difference anyway, so who even cares what Westerners ‘think’? Let’s not flatter them on that count, as ‘interesting’ as they are?
“Some of them are getting to the point where they insist that human ‘extinction’ is a ‘good’ thing, and they console themselves that it is going to happen to everyone, which is a common, primal way of psychologically ‘coping’ when you are losing – an inherited form of denial.”
Now you are putting value judgements on inevitabilities. There’s little point in “reasoning” with the process of evolution.
Species go extinct all the time and it’s perfectly fine. Good thing that the Rapacious Primate is bang on schedule.
It is horrid having a species spinning and going nowhere fast in the eternal recurrence / Yuga cycles – ad nauseum. Yes, all retch and no vomit in perpetuity perfectly described by Lotka-Volterra (attractor) dynamics.
“cynicism and hypocrisy” you say?
https://www.news24.com/news24/southafrica/politics/political-parties/court-finds-kill-the-boer-lyrics-are-not-hate-speech-afriforum-to-appeal-ruling-20220825
” . . . and as amply demonstrated in the Ukraine and in the Taiwan Strait, that power is pretty well clapped out. ”
Another ‘interpretation’?
“By the time you got to the first Bush administration, after the collapse of the Soviet Union, they came out with a national defense policy and strategic policy. What they basically said is that we’re going to have wars against what they called much weaker enemies and these have to be carried out quickly and decisively or else there will be embarrassment—a way of saying that popular reaction is going to set in. And that’s the way it’s been. It’s not pretty, but it’s some kind of constraint.”
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2018/03/noam-chomsky-populist-groundswell-u-s-elections-future-humanity.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+NakedCapitalism+%28naked+capitalism%29
“Gail, you seem to be stuck in the Western Sandbox […] You need to look outside it to see what’s really going on.”
Even if your point (over-focus on the West) were legitimate, which it is not, it is disrespectful and unprofessional to visit someone’s site and accuse them of not knowing what’s going on.
Secondly, your reading comprehension appears quite low – either that or you didn’t read the article; all graphs but one are *global* in nature. You shouldn’t have linked to your trash content after demonstrating poor behavior and logic.
I am not easily offended. I am not an expert in any one area. There is lots to be learned.
I think all would agree that the cost of reading Orlov’s interesting comments is putting up with a markdly outsize ego.
If he hangs around OFW he’ll end up in a crisis of self confidence… cuz he cannot censor facts and logic …
Maybe we can get Wolf over here too? He needs a good intellectual thrashing.
Tell Dmitry to come back after he gets his teeth fixed after that beating Fast Eddy just administered…
It was severe, indeed. He may never recover.
Are you not the guy who says Russia is awesome and will survive the collapse that is imminent and due to the fact that we’ve burned up all the cheap energy?
I heard you bang on pots and shout Putin is Great…. meanwhile he’s got ya’ll jamming the lethal injection into your arms over their in the Ice Box.
Have you been injected?
Welcome to the serious sand box… stick around … I have heard you censor anyone who disagrees with you over on the Pravda blog.
Not here. And the serious players are here. You know … the ones who are not captured by Delusional thoughts.
You do realize that Russia does not make much if any of the gear required to extract and refine oil…. then there’s the grid — does Russia make all the spare parts?
Oh hang on … what about the spent fuel ponds? Those require computer systems and other advanced tech… they are not just ‘stick a hose in the pond and all will be fine’ Does Russia make the parts? Does Russia even make computers? Of course not – Taiwan makes the chips….
Russia is probably more reliant on the global supply chain… that any other country … cuz Russia makes pretty much f789 all… it’s a resource based economy…
And that chain of supply will stop — when the financial system implodes…
And the Russians who are not killed by the lethal injects VAIDS etc…
Will starve. YOU will starve.
Along with the rest of us.
But hey — there’s always the Borscht- flavoured Fentanyl to end the suffering …
A patronising, drive-by insult to Gail from Orlov.
I think we can do without his contribution.
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The point has been about the laws of physics being the base of everything in the physical world. Norman (who I’m not talking to) in particular seems confused about this. One reason we call them laws is because we are not allowed to break them. We are constrained by the laws of physics, just as we are by the laws of chemistry, and biology, and astronomy and geology and all basic sciences. We are not permitted to break those laws. That’s it!
It doesn’t mean that we have no freedom of manoeuver whatsoever. While we can’t break basic natural laws, there is room for us to make progress and move in various directions while remaining within their bounds.
Bill Gates’s and Klaus Schwab’s and George Monbiot’s and Jane Goodall’s idea of progress is to make progress down to a world population of around 500 million humans. This is eminently doable, but according to the laws of cullinary physics, you can’t make a demographic omelette that large without breaking an awful lot of eggs.
Elon, Keith and others have an idea of progress that includes solar panels on every roof and in geostationary earth orbit, and electricity bills too cheap to meter. This is also not totally pie in the sky. OK. I’d be the first to declare that it probably won’t happen. But the laws of physics that people like Norman (who I’m not talking to) make such a fetish of following, do not rule it out.
I could go on and on with more examples. But the point is, the laws of physics are merely a set of natural constraints that help to establish the parameters of our finite world. They are not straight jackets that prevent all movement.
What the futurologists don’t tell you when painting pictures of the future, but what we all should be aware of, is that while we personally may be part of the big “We”—the human race, each of us personally is expendable in the context of the human project. In order to keep the project rolling, any number of us can be discarded callously and without a second thought by those directing the project, if the laws of physics, chemistry, biology, economics, or expediency require it.
You seem perfectly capable of clawing onto life tooth and nail. I doubt there is a “problem” with (semi) subsistence farmers not totally engulfed by a sprawling egotistical fantasy.
Shall we make a trade, a bit of internet connected electronic gadgetry for a few sacks of rice?
One just can’t resist the temptations of connectivity, now can we? That is the crux and grace. People rather walk the earth in rags than give up their internet terminals, assuming being fed.
Thanks to the current state of BAU, we can now plant our rice using a computer-controlled machine that runs at three times the speed a manually steered rice-planting machine goes at. I saw one in action this spring. The makers are selling them to small farmers for the equivalent of about US$15,000 each and the farmers are using these machines for three or four hours a year and then spending longer than that washing the mud off of them.
Other farmers are using drones to plant rice and deliver fertilizer and pesticides.
It isn’t right! Asians are NOT Americans! Asian rice farmers should be out in the mud getting their feet dirty—not sitting at home operating the farm via the internet.
Inside every asia is a wanna be american… please inform them
One farmer i know uses state of the art tractors for everything. They know where everything on the rig is to a mm(ok exaggeration). Im not sure the driver has to do much.
Another farmer I know brings in a big crew of latinos for the season with temp visas.
They both have been farming like this forever so I guess both are feasible business models..
The Big “We”? What we?
The scumbag Arthur Harris is famous for the quote of valuing a fusilier’s life over the city of Dresden, a value he apparently learnt from the Shona of Zimbabwe, but in private he held ordinary soldiers in heavy contempt just like any English gentleman, and treated them quite harshly.
Some are indeed quite more equal than others, and the ‘more equal’ part of humanity do NOT see the rest as belonging in the same species.
Those directing the project never saw the rest to be their equals, but something inferior. They will develop the civilization and will exclude everyone else, if they can make it.
Quite so.
The “Big We” is the imaginary collective that all the little “we”s are encouraged to believe they belong to.
It’s a big club, and you and I ain’t in it!
As the Kinks sang:
Let them feel that they’re important to the cause
But let them know that they are fighting for their homes
Just be sure that they’re contributing their all
Give the scum a gun and make the bugger fight
And be sure to have deserters shot on sight
If he dies we’ll send a medal to his wife
Occasionally a man can buck the system but it’s fraught with legal bills and uncertainty.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joshua_Key
Josh is the author of ‘The Deserter’s Tale’
‘Right chaps, I have our orders from HQ.
We just need to go over to that hill – the one with all the barbed wire and machine guns on top,with a mine field all around it – and take it and consolidate.
That’s our first objective today, and it’s very important indeed that we do it!
Right, off you go!’
And if I survive – I get a medal?
Let’s do it!
Their homes are worth nothing. In turn they will have to be discarded.
Arthur first tested his theories of mass death form the air on Iraqi villages in the 1920s using poison gas.
I remember how Saddam was condemned for that. Maybe now he should have a statue in London too?
Sir Winston loved it!
Trials at Porton suggested that it was indeed a terrible new weapon. Uncontrollable vomiting, coughing up blood and instant, crippling fatigue were the most common reactions. The overall head of chemical warfare production, Sir Keith Price, was convinced its use would lead to the rapid collapse of the Bolshevik regime. “If you got home only once with the gas you would find no more Bolshies this side of Vologda.”
The cabinet was hostile to the use of such weapons, much to Churchill’s irritation. He also wanted to use M Devices against the rebellious tribes of northern India. “I am strongly in favour of using poisoned gas against uncivilised tribes,” he declared in one secret memorandum.
He criticised his colleagues for their “squeamishness”, declaring that “the objections of the India Office to the use of gas against natives are unreasonable. Gas is a more merciful weapon than [the] high explosive shell, and compels an enemy to accept a decision with less loss of life than any other agency of war.”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/shortcuts/2013/sep/01/winston-churchill-shocking-use-chemical-weapons
And you love it too, apparently.
Why do you say that? If anything, I am with the “squeamish” on this issue. You are the genocidal one around here. You are the one who blames the people of the Third World for having the audacity, nay, the temerity, to live, breathe, and eke out a living. You and Winston would have gotten on well.
Don’t worry, he will have his in time.
Touissant L’Overture, a rebel who was bought to France and was allowed to rot in an Alpine prison, was put into the Pantheon.