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The problem is hitting limits in the extraction of fossil fuels
We know that historically, many economies around the world have collapsed. We also know that there is a physics reason why this happens. Growing economies require a growing supply of energy to keep up with a growing population. At some point, the energy supply and other resource needs cannot grow rapidly enough to keep up with population growth. When this happens, economies tend to collapse.
In their book Secular Cycles, researchers Peter Turchin and Sergey Nefedov found that economies tend go through four distinct phases in each cycle, with each stage lasting for quite a few years:
- Growth
- Stagflation
- Crisis
- Inter-cycle
Based on my own analysis, the world economy was in the Growth Stage for much of the time between the Industrial Revolution and 1973. In late 1973, oil prices spiked, and the world was put on notice that the energy supply could not continue rising as rapidly as in the past. Between 1973 and 2018, the world economy was in the Stagflation Stage. Based on current data, the world economy seems to have entered the Crisis Stage about 2018. This is the reason for saying that headwinds are beginning to hold the economy back in the title of this article .
When the Crisis Stage occurs, there are fewer goods and services per capita to go around, so some participants in the world economy must come out behind. Conflict of all kinds becomes more likely. Political leaders, if they happen to discover the predicament the world economy is in, have little interest in making the predicament known to voters, since doing so would likely lead them to lose the next election.
Instead, the way the physics-based self-organizing economic system works is that alternative narratives that frame the situation in a less frightening way gain popularity. Political leaders may not even be aware of how dependent today’s economy is on fossil fuels. Researchers may not be aware that their “scientific” models are misleading because they look at too small a portion of the overall system and make unwarranted assumptions.
In this post, I show evidence that the economy is reaching energy limits. In the last section, I explain how my view differs from the standard narrative, which says that there is almost an unlimited amount of fossil fuels available to burn, if we choose to utilize these fossil fuels. According to this view, humans can prevent climate change by voluntarily moving away from fossil fuels.
The standard narrative proposes a reasonable plan for citizens of parts of the world without adequate fossil fuels (cut back on buying fossil fuels), but without telling citizens what the real problem is. The standard narrative also gives the impression that there is a near-term clean energy alternative. In my opinion, this is wishful thinking for the reasons I describe in Sections [6] and [7]. Section [2] also sheds light on the reasonableness of moving to renewable energy.
[1] The world has been warned, at least twice, that collapse might occur about now.
Back in the 1950s, several physicists, including M. King Hubbert, became interested in the limits that the world was up against. The military became interested in the problem, as well. In 1957, Admiral Hyman Rickover of the US Navy gave a very insightful speech. One thing Admiral Rickover said was, “With high energy consumption goes a high standard of living.” Another thing he said was, “A reduction of per capita energy consumption has always in the past led to a decline in civilization and a reversion to a more primitive way of life.”
Regarding the future, he said,
For it is an unpleasant fact that according to our best estimates, total fossil fuel reserves recoverable at not over twice today’s unit cost are likely to run out at some time between the years 2000 and 2050, if present standards of living and population growth rates are taken into account.
The issue Admiral Rickover is pointing out is that as extraction costs rise, fossil fuels become increasingly unaffordable. If citizens cannot afford food, housing, and other basic goods made with high-cost fossil fuels, those fossil fuels will be left in the ground. If politicians try to pass the high cost of extraction on to consumers, it will cause inflation. Citizens will become unhappy with politicians and will vote them out of office. This is basically our problem today.
A second analysis that pointed to the current time frame for the world hitting fossil fuel limits is given in the 1972 book, The Limits To Growth by Donella Meadows and others. This analysis used computer modeling to look at several alternative future scenarios, considering resources available and population trends. The base scenario showed resource limits in general hitting sometime around 2020. The economy would collapse over a period of years after resource limits were hit.
[2] The Industrial Revolution in England is an example of how an economy changes for the better when fossil fuel energy is added.
Figure 1 shows a chart E. A. Wrigley shows in his book, Energy and the English Industrial Revolution:
Wrigley observes that when coal was added to the economy, it was possible to make far more metal tools than had been made in the past. With the use of metal tools instead of wood tools, farmers could be three times as productive. Thus, there didn’t need to be as many farmers, freeing some farmers for other occupations. Also, roads to coal mines were paved, in an era when few roads were paved. These paved roads were beneficial to other businesses and to the economy as a whole.
Another reason for coal to be of interest was because of increased deforestation near cities, as the population grew. This deforestation led to a need to transport firewood over long distances. Coal was more compact, and so easier to transport. Furthermore, the use of coal prevented having to cut down as many trees, helping the environment.
Figure 1 shows that energy from wind and water were only a tiny part of the economy, both before and after coal was added. They did not directly provide heat energy, which was a significant share of what the economy needed at that time.
[3] The period between the end of World War II and 1973 was another period when energy consumption per capita was rising rapidly. We might say the economy then had an “energy tailwind.”
Figure 2 shows that US energy consumption per capita was rising rapidly in the 1949 to 1973 period. Growing oil, coal and natural gas consumption all contributed to the overall rise in fossil fuel use.
In fact, BP data (only available from 1965 onward) shows energy consumption per capita rising for most parts of the world between 1965 and 1973. During this period, oil, coal and natural gas consumption per capita were all rising.
A major thing that pushed oil consumption along was its low price (Figure 4). According to BP data, the inflation-adjusted price was only $11.99 per barrel in 1970. In 1971, it averaged $14.30 per barrel. The comparable price today is about $79 per barrel.
The average price for 1973 rose to the equivalent of $19.73 per barrel, which is still incredibly low relative to today’s prices. It is an annual average price, reflecting a low price at the beginning of the year and a much higher price toward the end of the year.
There were multiple issues behind the rise in oil prices, starting at the end of 1973. Part of the problem was the fact that US oil production began to fall in 1971, necessitating the use of more imported oil, year after year. Another issue was that world oil production could not keep up with the high demand, given the low price that oil was selling for. The Office of the Historian of the US writes the following:
By 1973, OPEC had demanded that foreign oil corporations increase prices and cede greater shares of revenue to their local subsidiaries. In April, the Nixon administration announced a new energy strategy to boost domestic production to reduce U.S. vulnerability to oil imports and ease the strain of nationwide fuel shortages. That vulnerability would become overtly clear in the fall of that year.
Without higher oil prices, it would be hard for local producers to make the investments needed to ramp up production. Also, taxes for governments in the areas where the oil was produced were falling too low, given the low prices that oil was selling for on the international market. Indirectly because of these problems, but supposedly also because of support for Israel by certain countries in the 1973 Arab-Israeli war, the Arab members of OPEC initiated an oil embargo. This embargo cut off exports to the US, Netherlands, Portugal, and South Africa from November 1973 until March 1974. It was at that time that world oil prices rose to a much higher level, and oil consumption per capita began to fall.
One thing that is striking about the period between World War II and 1973 is the huge advances in wages made by both the bottom 90% and the top 10% (Figure 5).
Between 1948 and 1968, inflation-adjusted income of both the bottom 90% and the top 10% increased by roughly 80%. This meant that many people in the bottom 90% could afford to buy cars and their own homes for the first time. Even in the period between 1968 and 1982, inflation-adjusted incomes kept up with inflation, something that low-income earners today have difficulty with. It was not until after about 1982 that wage disparity started to increase.
Most people remember the 1950s and 1960s as a favorable period for ordinary workers. Because of the higher wages of ordinary citizens and growing US manufacturing capabilities, the number of cars registered in the US rose from 25.8 million in 1945 to 75.3 million in 1965. The US initiated the 41,000 mile Interstate Highway System in 1956, so that auto owners would have multilane, limited access roads to travel on.
Electricity was sold in a conservative way, called the Utility Pricing System, which would hopefully assure that the whole system would be properly maintained. Utilities were typically owners of electricity generation units, plus all other local infrastructure, including transmission lines. Each utility would compute a total required rate for all its needs, including enough funds to install new generating capacity, provide fuel, and install and maintain transmission lines. A government regulator would approve the rates, but there was no real competition.
[4] In the period between 1973 and 2018, many changes were to increase energy efficiency and to lower the perceived cost to users. Unfortunately, some of these changes, when taken to the extremes they were taken to later in the period, tended to make the economy brittle and thus more subject to collapse.
Up until 1973, oil was being put to uses for which substitution could easily be made. One of these was electricity generation; another was home heating. An easy change in electricity generation was to build new generating facilities using an alternate fuel (coal, natural gas, or nuclear). Home heating could often be changed to natural gas or electricity.
Also, Japan already had automobiles that were smaller and more fuel efficient than American automobiles. These could be substituted for some of the large cars produced in the US.
Especially with the Reagan and Thatcher administrations starting shortly after 1980, there was more interest in cutting costs in electricity generation. “Competitive rating” instead of utility rating became popular in places where electricity prices were high. Utilities were broken up, and the various parts were encouraged to compete.
Of course, competitive rating, when taken to its extreme, can lead to the neglect of infrastructure. It was recently reported that California’s utility company, Pacific Gas and Electric, now finds that it must raise $50 billion for wildfire prevention, after years of neglecting maintenance on the long distance transmission lines used for hydroelectric generation and other long distance transmission. Now it needs to raise money to bury many of these lines underground.
It has long been known that added complexity can be helpful in working around problems of inadequate energy supply. Complexity involves many things including using more advanced technology and international trade. It involves bigger organizations to take advantage of economies of scale. It tends to require higher education for at least some of its workers.
One major disadvantage of growing complexity is the increasing wage disparity it tends to produce. Wages for less educated workers often fall quite low. Work in whole industries may disappear overseas, leaving workers to start over, in new lines of work, at lower pay scales.
Unfortunately, having many workers at low wages tends to push an economy toward collapse. The big issue is that these workers cannot afford goods like cars and new homes. Their lack of purchasing power tends to hold down commodity prices, such as the price of fossil fuels. Prices don’t rise high enough to justify new investment to raise production, so production slows down and eventually stops.
Another approach that gained popularity starting about 1981 was the increased use of debt and more exotic financial approaches. Interest rates were very high in 1981. Central banks could make monthly payments for goods such as homes and cars more affordable by lowering interest rates. This approach works for a while, but it reaches limits when interest rates fall too low relative to inflation rates. Furthermore, if an economy slows down, a major increase in debt defaults becomes likely, as became clear in 2008. With the high level of debt in the world economy today, the default problem could become even worse in 2023 or 2024 than it was in 2008, if the economy slows again.
[5] Since 2015, oil and natural gas investments have remained at low levels because oil prices have not been high enough to justify drilling in the remaining places.
In my opinion, oil companies really need quite high oil prices, probably $120 per barrel or higher, on a consistent basis, to justify drilling in sufficient new locations to ramp up oil production. Since 2014, prices have generally remained far below that level. There was a major drop in oil prices in 2014 and 2015. In response to the lower oil prices, oil and gas companies cut back on investment in “Exploration and Production” (E&P). (Figure 7)
After a drop in E&P investments, oil production does not drop immediately. Instead, 2018 was the single highest year of oil production. Production looks likely to drop further because of the continued lack of investment (Figure 8).
[6] If we look across the major types of energy supply, we discover that “Wind and Solar” is the only category rising significantly faster than world population. Others tend to be flat or falling, on a per capita basis.
In Figure 9, the star performer is the category “Wind + Solar.” The main attraction of wind and solar today is the subsidies they get, and the mandates that require utilities to move away from fossil fuels. Unfortunately, wind and solar really aren’t terribly helpful as far as I can see, except from the point of view of the benefit of the subsidies they provide.
One of the problems with intermittent wind and solar is that they tend to drive nuclear electricity providers out of business because of the favorable rates they receive when wind and solar are allowed to go first, in competitive rating schemes. With this arrangement, the wholesale rates that nuclear providers receive often fall to negative amounts. Nuclear providers cannot close down for short periods with negative rates, so they tend to need subsidies to remain open. Figure 9 shows that the supply of nuclear electricity has been dropping since at least 2001. In fact, of all the energy types shown on Figure 9, nuclear’s production (relative to population) is dropping fastest.
In my opinion, our primary energy concern should be food production and transport. Diesel, made from oil, is the major fuel for agriculture. It will be decades before farming machinery and transport of food can be changed over to electricity, assuming this can be done at all. Until this happens, electricity’s role in getting food to the shelves of grocery stores will be limited.
Solar energy comes primarily in the summer but, unfortunately, in many places, the big need for heat energy is in the winter. People in Europe, with their many wind turbines and solar panels, are worried about possibly freezing in the dark this winter if natural gas supplies prove inadequate. We don’t have batteries for storing solar or wind energy for months on end, so they cannot be counted on for winter heat.
When homeowners put solar panels on their roofs, the electricity they sell to the utility is often “net metered” (credited with the full retail value of electricity that this home would pay). This is a huge subsidy to the owners of the solar panels because the value of the intermittent electricity to the utility is far less than this, probably closer to the cost of the natural gas or other fuel saved.
To make up for the loss of revenue caused by the overly generous compensation to solar panel owners, the utility is forced to raise rates for those without solar panels. Studies show that homeowners with solar panels tend to be wealthier than the renters and others who do not have the opportunity to add these subsidized solar panels. Thus, this is an example of a benefit for rich homeowners being paid for by less wealthy buyers of electricity.
I would also argue that the BP data I used to produce Figure 9 tends to give an overly optimistic view of the value of wind and solar. The approach used indirectly assumes that they fully replace the entire system of dispatchable electricity used today, rather than providing only intermittent electricity. The less generous approach (giving a little less than half as much credit) is used by the International Energy Association and by many researchers.
Furthermore, solar panels tend to pollute ground water when they are disposed of, so they are not very clean. Wind turbines are noisy, take up farmland, and kill bats and birds, so they have serious drawbacks as well.
Wind and solar are made and transported using fossil fuels. They cannot last any longer than today’s fossil fuel industry. In fact, roads and transmission lines require fossil fuels to continue. The whole system is likely to go down at approximately the same time.
It seems to me that the main reason why we hear so much about intermittent wind and solar is because there needs to be a hopeful narrative for politicians to provide to voters, and for educators to provide to students. Otherwise, the situation shown on Figure 9 looks grim. The fact that fossil fuel prices have been spiking in 2022 and regulators are trying to get these prices back down again is testimony to the fact that we are running short of cheap-to-produce fossil fuel energy.
[7] The incorrect narrative provided by mainstream media (MSM) is that climate change is our worst problem. To lessen this problem, citizens need to move quickly away from fossil fuels and transition to renewables. The real narrative is that we are running short of fossil fuels that can be profitably extracted, and renewables are not adequate substitutes. However, this narrative is too worrisome for most people to handle.
I expect most readers will say, your view can’t be right. We don’t read this story in the news. All we hear about is climate change and the need to reduce fossil fuel usage to prevent climate change.
In many ways, the narrative presented by MSM is less frightening to the public than a narrative in which fuels are already being stretched too thin. The MSM narrative sounds like a situation that we can perhaps live with and work around. It sounds like careers that people study for today will be useful in the future. It also sounds like homes, cars and factories built today will be useful in the future.
One major difference in the MSM view, relative to my view, is with respect to the amounts of fossil fuels that can be extracted. The standard narrative says we will extract all the fossil fuels that we have the technology to extract unless we make a concerted effort not to extract these fuels. For this to happen, demand (a favorite word of economists) must keep rising to keep prices high enough for businesses to want to continue extraction from fields plagued by depletion.
History shows that when an economy approaches limits, what tends to happen is that demand tends to fall too low. This happens because the physics of the way the economy works: Wage and wealth disparities tend to spike as energy resources are increasingly stretched thin. In fact, the great wealth of the top 1%, relative to that of the remaining 99%, is a major problem in the world today. When increasing wage and wealth disparity occurs, a growing number of poor workers find themselves with inadequate wages to buy food, homes, cars and other goods made with commodities, including oil.
There are so many of these poor workers that their lack of demand tends to bring down commodity prices without government intervention. If these low wages are not sufficient to hold down commodity prices, politicians will raise interest rates to try to get commodity prices down, so they can be re-elected. It is low fossil fuel prices that will drive fossil fuel providers out of business.
Of course, another part of the MSM narrative is the view that renewables can save the system. I explained in Section [6] why this cannot be the case for wind and solar. I didn’t say much about hydroelectricity, but it is already built out in most of the developed world. Electricity from hydroelectric plants tends to be intermittent, with the greatest supply coming in the spring, when snow melts. Like wind and solar, hydroelectric generation plants are built and repaired using fossil fuels. These facilities, and their transmission lines, will last only until parts break that cannot be repaired.
One-world government was the last gasp idea to concentrate all resources into a few channels to maximize the possibility to enter a new stage of civilization.
You may or may not like the Russian Revolution. I personally don’t like it since my clan ultimately was harmed by it.
However, it did a great job of concentrating all the resources of USSR into one singe channel, eliminating dissents and spending not much for the welfare of peoples they did not deem to be necessary, like the Kazaks near the Aral Sea which is now a salty desert. A lot of nuclear facilities were built in various -stans whose people are not doing too great now.
If Russia and its friends win, the world’s remaining resources will be used for the convenience of their elites, not for the advancement of civilization. Which is a big negative.
It is necessary for the world’s limited resources to be concentrated in the advanced zones, so they can use them to advance civilization, not to make the standards of living higher.
Kulm..the best laid “plans” sometimes don’t work out.
How the Nannies stole Xmass and made Adolf Hitter the Messiah
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d_mMrQrbWvk&t=553s
Read somewhere that after a number of years the general public tired of all the advancement…
Why not leave Russia to advance civilization in its own way and let the decadent sordid corrupt West collapse into its own squalid pit of decadent sordid corruption? It’s heading that way anyway. It’s FUBAR. It’s beyond maintenance or repair or recovery or reform. It only continues to live and breathe like a vampire—sucking the life-force out of the rest of the planet.
I have seen the monster and am not afraid to name it. It is collectively us in the West. We are the steamroller. The rest of humanity and the rest of the world is the road. Since we are so obviously not part of the solution, we are part of the problem. Even Greta knows this.
The USSR showed the height of what they could do. They began to falter from 1970s when the captured scientists from Germany and nearby began to die out.
Petersburg 1987 , still called Leningrad back then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaVvHIDcih0
When they filmed the movie Untergang (called “Downfall” in English), about the last days of 3rd Reich, they filmed it in Petersburg which still had lots of old German-style buildings. In other words, the Soviets did not build too many buildings after 90 plus years.
The thing is …
If the West was vapourized … another entity with a similar or worse system would replace it… if there were the resources available
Thus I fully support UEP – Global Holodomor – and Extinction
Civilisation does not advance.
I doubt it is for a “new stage of civilisation” in the sense of a new Golden Age.
The available resources concentrate in a few regions and the whole world needs them. To keep up world trade in the sense of Ricardo, coordination of the scarce resources is needed. The markets do not work with diminishing supply.
Let’s say the One World government is the answer to Gail’s “interconnected economy”.
I doubt that it works!
All the rest is a narrative to help a “positive” utopia and make people comply
It is indeed very difficult to believe that “one world government” can really work, even if WEF, Bill Gates, the IIF, and others would like it to work. You are probably right that the story has been spun to make people comply. Also, to give hope to today’s oligarchs.
The international part of the system has to fall apart. I am not sure of the time line, however. It would seem like parts of the system need to start falling apart soon. The financial part of the international system would seem to be very vulnerable–especially the derivatives. Debt carried by low income countries and low income people seems very vulnerable as well.
We already have one world government… the Elders are the ultimate power and they allow a certain degree of independence within their empire.
The cannot micro manage such a big beast… but if anyone gets out of line and doesn’t follow their general edicts… watch out.
No golden age possible. Too much resources had been wasted.
The world govt is the last ditch idea to concentrate all remaining resources to the most likely to be productive zones, and hope for the best, and leave NOTHING to the rest who are not likely to advance civ.
The term “advance civilization” kind of reminds me of the fishy term that American politicians promise voters that they will go back to Washington to “get things done”.
Creativity is good, but if it is on a wrong side of the tracks, it has to be suppressed.
Because it hurts social stability and creates unrest.
Samuel Colt made men free. Hiram Maxim put them back to the rightful places. Hiram Maxim was born in Maine, USA but died in Great Britain, which suited him better since order was kept there.
https://greyenlightenment.com/2022/12/20/societys-love-hate-relationship-with-creativity/
>It’s not so much that we like creativity or creative people, but rather we like successful, mainstream creative people. Success leads to bandwagon effects and peer approval, so this way the uncertainty or risk of supporting the wrong creative people or endeavors is eliminated.
Social hierarchy is eternal, and any movement obstructing it is an enemy of Civilization.
Oh yes, very enduring, quite eternal. perpetual even! Until the social hierarchy gets the chop, or even genocided, as has happened numerous times in history and doubtless in pre-history.
And, within 3 generations, the old hierarchy is miraculously restored. As if nothing had happened.
The people living there are all relatives of the landowner, one way or another. They don’t mind the old order returning.
https://faculty.econ.ucdavis.edu/faculty/gclark/papers/Malthus%20to%20Modernity%202013%20NOV.pdf
Chances are, the new owners are distant relatives of the old owners. Maybe a distant cousin’s descendant.
Social hierarchy starts falling apart when energy consumption per capita starts rising significantly. That is why there was such a push for integration of the Blacks starting in the 1960s in the US.
I suppose that there may be elements of this, as well, when people from Africa come to Europe and see the higher living standards of many Europeans. They become distressed. They think they immediately need high-paying jobs, as well.
Human life was bound to happen somewhere if there are zillions of universes with different ‘laws’?
The new stage of the Marvel movies is framed as the ‘The Multiverse Saga’, so an awareness of the multiverse is liable to become more popular.
“There are no fundamental building blocks and no fundamental forces and, as such, there are no laws because thinking about ultimate reductionist laws rigorously has led to the possible existence of 10(^500) universes, with only one of them perhaps obeying the laws needed to accommodate Homo sapiens. The only thing we are left with is the landscape, where the “laws” depend on the specific universe one is dealing with. This is so mind-bogglingly complex that the whole idea of natural laws must be modified.”
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2349359-why-the-laws-of-physics-dont-actually-exist/
> Why the laws of physics don’t actually exist
What we call laws of physics are often just mathematical descriptions of some part of nature. Ultimate physical laws probably don’t exist and physics is all the better for it, says theoretical physicist Sankar Das Sarma
I was recently reading an old article by string theorist Robbert Dijkgraaf in Quanta Magazine entitled “There are no laws of physics”. You might think it a bit odd for a physicist to argue that …
there are no laws of physics but I agree with him. In fact, not only do I agree with him, I think that my field is all the better for it. And I hope to convince you of this too.
First things first. What we often call laws of physics are really just consistent mathematical theories that seem to match some parts of nature. This is as true for Newton’s laws of motion as it is for Einstein’s theories of relativity, Schrödinger’s and Dirac’s equations in quantum physics or even string theory. So these aren’t really laws as such, but instead precise and consistent ways of describing the reality we see. This should be obvious from the fact that these laws are not static; they evolve as our empirical knowledge of the universe improves.
Here’s the thing. Despite many scientists viewing their role as uncovering these ultimate laws, I just don’t believe they exist.
A hundred years ago, an opinion like this would not have been controversial. Before then, most so-called laws of physics were all directly connected to concrete aspects of the natural world, like Hooke’s law that describes how much force is needed to stretch a spring or Boyle’s law about the relationship between the pressure, temperature and volume of a gas. But this started to change in the early 20th century when people like Albert Einstein took up the quest to find the ultimate theory of everything. He spent the last 30 years of his life searching for one to no avail. Dirac too believed in this view, having apparently said that all of chemistry can be derived just from his equation – though I think that particular remark is probably apocryphal.
There are around 86 billion neurons in the human brain. This is less than the number of stars in the Milky Way which is just a miniscule part of the known universe. The universe seems almost infinite in comparison to the finite capacity of the human brain, leaving us perhaps little chance of figuring out ultimate laws. What is amazing is that we can make sense of some aspects of the universe through the laws of physics. It may have been Richard Feynman who first said that the issue is not how clever we humans are in figuring out how nature works, it is how clever nature is in following our laws!
As we discover more about nature, we can hone our descriptions of it, but it is never-ending – like peeling an infinite onion, the more we peel, the more there is to peel.
Take string theory as an example. It is a theory that is very mathematically tight and rather magical in the way that it treats gravity and quantum mechanics equivalently, matching many of our observations of the universe. It holds a lot of promise, but so far has struggled to provide any testable concrete predictions beyond our current understanding.
It also has a rather thorny stumbling block known as the landscape problem, where literally zillions of universes (around 10(^500), the number is so large that it seems obscene) are acceptable solutions of the theory. If string theory is correct one can declare victory as one of those zillions of universes must be our universe, and all one needs to do is to somehow find that particular solution to figure out what the laws of physics are for us. Of course, this is an impossible task because of the exceptionally large number of possible universes existing in the landscape, and all with their own distinct laws.
This scenario is often called the multiverse. All possible laws, conceivable and inconceivable, are allowed in some possible universe, and laws of physics are no longer meaningful or unique from a fundamental sense, since they depend entirely on where in the multiverse landscape one is looking. It is ironic that the theory of everything turned out to imply an everything which is exponentially larger than any everything anybody could have imagined before.
One possible conclusion from this is that the conventional reductionist approach of particle physics, where natural laws are increasingly focused on smaller and smaller building blocks (like molecules, atoms and particles) and fundamental forces (like gravity and electromagnetism) acting between them, is no longer a fruitful way of looking at the physical world. There are no fundamental building blocks and no fundamental forces and, as such, there are no laws because thinking about ultimate reductionist laws rigorously has led to the possible existence of 10(^500) universes, with only one of them perhaps obeying the laws needed to accommodate Homo sapiens.
The only thing we are left with is the landscape, where the “laws” depend on the specific universe one is dealing with. This is so mind-bogglingly complex that the whole idea of natural laws must be modified. It’s an apparently strange end to a worthy journey that started with atoms as hypothetical indivisible constituents of matter 2500 years ago and witnessed a great recent triumph in the experimental discovery of the Higgs particle in 2012. In the end, our physical laws are not intrinsic at all, depending entirely on where in the landscape we happen to be.
As a theoretical condensed matter physicist I do not find this scenario discouraging at all – quite the opposite. The fact that there is an essentially infinite number of possible laws only makes doing science more exhilarating because exploring the landscape will remain an active and creative activity forever. Theoretical physics can never end because the landscape is simply too vast.
I know from my 40 years of experience in working on real-life physical phenomena that the whole idea of an ultimate law based on an equation using just the building blocks and fundamental forces is unworkable and essentially a fantasy. We never know precisely which equation describes a particular laboratory situation. Instead, we always have to build models and approximations to describe each phenomenon even when we know that the equation controlling it is ultimately some form of the Schrödinger equation!
“What about quantum mechanics?” you might ask. It has been hugely successful for close to 100 years at matching all our experiments at the quantum scale. But quantum mechanics is actually more like a set of rules that we use to express our laws rather than being an ultimate law itself. For example, the standard model of particle physics, the theory of superconductivity and the theory of atomic spectra are all built using the rules of quantum mechanics, but they have little to do with each other. In addition, space and time are variables that have to be put in by hand into the theory, when space and time should come out naturally from any ultimate law of physics. This has remained perhaps the greatest mystery in fundamental physics with no solution in sight.
It is difficult to imagine that a thousand years from now physicists will still use quantum mechanics as the fundamental description of nature. Something else should replace quantum mechanics by that time just as quantum mechanics itself replaced Newtonian mechanics. I have no idea what that something else might be, but I see no particular reason that our description of how the physical universe seems to work should reach the pinnacle suddenly in the beginning of the 21st century and become stuck forever at quantum mechanics. That would be a truly depressing thought!
Newton’s laws were extraordinarily successful for 300 years, but we had to go beyond them as we learned more about the universe, and the same should happen with quantum laws some day in the future.
Any such unknown new theory of the future must build on and incorporate the physics of quantum mechanics, just as quantum mechanics built on and incorporated classical mechanics. Our understanding of the physical world must continue indefinitely, unimpeded by the search for ultimate laws. Laws of physics continuously evolve – they will never be ultimate.
Or perhaps creation is a continuous process, if the Universe is continually growing and expanding. There are things we don’t know.
That is Roger Penrose’s proposal.
Right, if everything is, in principle, possible in the multiverse according to the varied ‘laws’ in different landscapes, then it becomes difficult to see how any specific place is left for the need of any outside influence to explain anything in any landscape. Any ‘gaps’ in our understanding of any particular landscape are simply that, while the landscape does whatever it does according to the local ‘laws’. There are then no ‘fundamental laws’ to leave any ‘gaps’. We are liable to hear the point, ‘oh, but the multiverse!’ more and more.
On the other hand, it seems doubtful that such a ‘specific place’ or ‘gap’ is needed for a ‘faith’ in ‘something else.’ ‘Believers’ need not tie themselves to any dogma about the relation of knowledge to the object of faith like the RCC did at council ‘Vatican I’ in 1870. People basically ‘believe’ because they want to, fundamentally, rather than ‘because’ of any ‘gaps’ in physics?
* Or rather, ‘in different universes in the landscape’ to conform the use of terms.
I don’t think size makes any sense at all. If everything can happen eventually will happen either of two things must be true.
1. The universe is boundless where everything happens an infinity of times (static principle). Eternal recurrence.
2. The universe is boundless and the physics isn’t ‘constant’, but rather mutating into something new along its trajectory into unfathomable (dynamic principle) Eternal non-recurrence.
Ah, the folly of applying a reductionist mindset to deduce that a reductionist theory doesn’t work.
The question is reductionism into exactly what? An indivisible and perfect ‘solid ground’ from which everything can be built up which in and on its own is absurd.
There is nothing wrong with reductionism, but “we” have to be careful how to set the premises before starting the deductive machinery. And with the rather limited intellect of humans, it’s virtually guaranteed to be wrong.
One does not simply ‘figure out’ self referential systems where the ‘figurer’ is part of, embedded in, the system in the strictest sense.
Turtles all the way down through self referential process.
The very thought itself modifies the system.
And it’s all good.
This guy says otherwise
https://www.youtube.com/@bgaede
He has argued for human extinction for a long time. Basically, he says every law of physics being advertised is bunk.
Einstein is reported to have said something along the lines of, “The most incomprehensible thing about the Universe is that it is comprehensible.”
Now we have people coming along and saying, effectively, “No, it isn’t comprehensible.”
I say, perhaps what was comprehensible to Einstein is incomprehensible to the vast majority of people, who don’t even comprehend Newton’s work, because like Newton, Einstein stood on the shoulders of giants.
yup
i just changed my clothes in the last remaining phonebox and jumped off a high building, before catching a bullet in my teeth and catching a girl who had fallen out of a helicopter (while holding up said helicopter with my other hand)
so yes
i can vouch for all the laws of physics being bunk
I am amazed at the amount of bullshit my colleagues are able to produce. String theory was always about bullshit, it was bullshit 30 yrs ago, but recently they got into overdrive. Also, my prediction, which I am certain will be more accurate. Physicists a thousand years from now will use sticks to draw diagrams in the sand. They will not use quantum mechanics but they will use nothing past sticks.
oh well
drawing lines in the sand built pyramids
so reasonable physics i guess
Yep, I’m sure those pyramids were slapped down without any sophisticated machinery and building techniques.
/s
What’s on CNNBBC tonight – norm?
trying to imitate your mentor Kow?
do try to come up with some original thinking.
you’ll be telling me next that the pyramids were built by aliens and each block levitated into position with hover-cranes.
or something.
FE is cute, isn’t he? Let’s pay him some homage for the entertainment and savagery on your sad self entitled rear end.
Your words not mine with regards to the pyramids.
But I must disagree, they were built by hoomans a while back with the rather sophisticated machinery of that era.
It is similar to how future civilizations will look back at “our” era and be baffled how “Stone Age” man could build those structures with simple copper tools. (I reckon you understand we use rather complex machinery and building materials). But hey, who knows what CNNBBC peddle these days to the evolutionary trapped Hypers? You tell me.
😉
Because, you see, in the myopia of ordinary, the exceptional becomes trivial and as is the other way around.
BTW; how’s that cope with your burning through copious amounts of FF’s going? I reckon your progeny is properly vaxxed and ready to perpetrate all retch and no vomit while engulfed in humongous plumes of CO2 and nothing to show for, no?
Asking for a friend, no hate.
🤭👍
norm has positioned his grandchildren for VAIDS.
Well done norm. Take a bow
if the ‘sophisticated machinery’ of that era didnt include an engine, then it was muscle power alone kow.
i am willing to be otherwise enlightened in that respect.
Feel free to consult with your mentor for additional info before replying—you can then join in the fakery dance,
I feel you suffer from the same illusory problems—everything is fake news. Only self matters.
Like i said, do try to come up with something of your own, parroting others just means that someone else has got to change the newspaper (fake news?) at the bottom of your cage.
I heard that in the ICU they play CNNBBC just like in the airport business lounges…
They say it keeps the MORE-ONS calm as they gasp for air on the vents as they watch the nurses administer the RemDeathisNear. All done with sinister faces….
That ‘physicist’ doesn’t know how to think. Has no fundamental use of Reason. By definition we can’t know anything of any other universes. Multiverse theory is not based in Reason.
Gail, I think two things that would be interesting to address (by you or by commenters here) are (1) the expected timeline of BAU collapse and (2) a more granular analysis of how different countries may fare or how their collapse timelines will differ.
(1) We have ~50 years of fossil fuels based on stated reserves, so potentially as much as 20-30 years of BAU. (This assumes some combination of incomplete recovery due to escalating costs and overstated reserves, but also moderate technology improvements in drilling.)
(2) Two entities, Russia and USA+Canada, have large amounts of land, fresh water, hydrocarbons per capita, and fairly capable militaries to defend said assets. They could be the last surviving nations in an increasingly chaotic world.
Anyway, I just wanted to propose topics for yourself or the readership to research, think, or write about. I think the world will fall apart for different regions on different timelines and having a general framework can help inform decisions.
Thanks for the ideas.
My problem is that my crystal ball is pretty cloudy. The situation with Covid and the mRNA vaccines caught me unaware. Things may turn out quite differently than we would expect.
Also, every country depends on international trade and an international financial system. That causes problems to spread in different ways.
I don’t want people to give up hope, either.
I always told willing ( and many unwilling) listeners in my younger days that as fossil fuels dwindled we would see the rise of a neofeudalism in a new dark age.
I did not foresee “ covid” exactly but it would appear that the broad strokes were bang on.
I would be feeling very proud of myself if not were it for my growing awareness of extraterrestrial effects and the metaphysical implications.
It is, what it is.
Complex systems decompose to levels of lower complexity until they finally end.
Just-in-time delivery by Amazon spends up less energy than regionally storaged specialities. There is still leeway that can be used. Private transport, heating, fight against obesity.
There is a point when our infrastructure does not play the game anymore. Imagine population reduction reaches 50%. Which roads to maintain, which cities? Will we be able to build new ones (Threestatescity)?
Resources are concentrated in a few spots only. This leads to a shift in powers. The BRICSS would like to consume their oil themselves. The advantage of knowledge that kept colonial times running, is over.
Decomposition to lower levels of complexity are already visible. So what means BAU?
20 years seem much for me. Perhaps I overestimate the contribution of every person to the whole. Perhaps the masses are unnecessary eaters and the system is kept running by just a handful and depopulation stretches resources. Perhaps there are no effects of scale.
A lot of forecasts see decomposition after peakoil within 20 years to the level of Bronzeage, not 20 years BAU.
We Pure Bloods hope for a Cull of 6B and BAU Lite.
It’s an impossible dream … yet we hope… for without hope there is only despair (unless you despise humans and embrace extinction – me? — well I am excited by the thought of extinction … I die but that’s ok – cuz everyone else dies too… it’s kinda like being sent to the principals office for fighting and both you and your adversary know you are gonna get the strap — you form a bit of a bond because you will share the punishment)
Marek’s disease 2.0: Has the COVID gene injection vaccine driven us to Marek 2.0 as seen in chickens where it allows the onward transmission of strains otherwise too lethal to persist? Is the COVID
gene vaccines driving evolution of more virulent strains? I think near 100% so; is the COVID shot allowing transmission & thus allowing very virulent strains to circulate in populations? I say yes!
https://palexander.substack.com/p/mareks-disease-20-has-the-covid-gene
The post doesn’t say easy much. It ends with
“I believe that we are witnessing some version of Marek disease in chickens and what happened when chickens were vaccinated with an imperfect ‘leaky’ vaccine.”
Dec 2nd Dawn: Finance Minister Ishaq Dar said he didn’t care whether the IMF sent or not their latest bagmen team to “review” compliance for paying the next installment.
“I don’t care if they come. I don’t have to plead before them. I have to look at Pakistan’s matters.” … He said the IMF could “not dictate” the government. “If they don’t come then we will manage — no problem,” Dar added.
dawn.com/news/1724311/wont-take-imfs-dictation-dar-says-he-has-to-prioritise-pakistans-interest
No so sure about that last hope
Dec 20th Bloomberg: Pakistan’s economic crisis deepened after the International Monetary Fund delayed its latest loan installments amid disputes over tax targets. It has also sought details on how much the nation will be spending to pay for reconstruction and rehabilitation after unprecedented floods this summer.
ceomorningbrief.theedgemalaysia.com/article/2022/0496/World/20/648972
My translation: Following Imran Kahn’s ouster, the newly installed PM rolled over so quickly to US interests (IMF) that they’ve used the excuse to step back and squeeze for more collateral. And look at that uppity Finance Minister? I wonder how long he’ll last. Needs a good taste of the Being Mean keeps ’em Keen.
IMF demands put countries like Pakistan in a terrible situation. The money the IMF lends is from a basket of countries, including the US. The US will put pressure on governments to follow IMF rules, as seems to be happening in Pakistan. Lots of countries may be headed for problems, simultaneously.
https://gettr.com/post/p22hskw31b0
PROTOCOLS MURDERED PEOPLE not any novel virus !
Scotland- ”The number of prescriptions for respiratory antibiotics reduced through April and May 2020, with 34% fewer prescriptions issued by end of Week 22 (31 May) than in the corresponding week in 2019. ”
”In common with other conditions some patients may not have sought healthcare advice so there may be an unintended consequence of increased serious complications of RTI presenting to hospital e.g. mastoiditis, quinsy, community-acquired pneumonia”
Once GP’s were sufficiently brainwashed. ”accustomed to COVID-19 presentation.”
”’Amoxicillin and doxycycline are both first-line agents in all health board guidelines for community respiratory infections with the choice in individual patients based on any previous therapy and contraindications. We also suggest that it is possible that as clinicians became increasingly accustomed to COVID-19 presentation they became more confident in not prescribing antibiotics. ”
norm?
It can’t be because they are concerned about overuse of antibiotics… we are talking life and death situations — situations where antibiotics are absolutely required — and where they will be administered properly…
It’s not like buying a few tabs over the counter in Bangladesh cuz that’s all you can afford…
norm?
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Strange reduction in antibiotic sales, at the same time as the initial spike in Covid deaths.
Seems like this antibiotic thing would have surfaced a long time ago, doesn’t it? Why now, and where’s the source?
Fast Eddy linked a Metatron Substack post that included a tweet by Jikky the Mouse on Dec.15 that began with:
“HOLY CRAP, why did doctors readily accept not treating 80 year olds for post-viral pneumonia in 2020-2022, when it had been standard-of-care…”
Here’s the cleaned-up version of Jikky’s thoughts on the matter.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1603327735853629441.html
Try reading it – the sources are from the government
For some people the forced vaccine mandates and government interference with medical treatment resulted in death. That is the reality. The removal of antibiotics from standard post-viral pneumonia was done in lockstep around the world. How could this have happened? By MAGIC: A consortium driven by the University of Liverpool and WHO:
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If I wanted to analyze that just from the business point of view, not considering for a moment that these products are for the health of people and based on what I’ve learnt in my business experience in big companies, all that seems the classic switch from moving the business from old-and-low profit products to new-and-high-profits products.
Normally in case like this, Sales Directors need to give incentives to Salesmen in order to push a change of this kind in the business portfolio.
That happens because Salesmen don’t see the advantage to change a big basket of good sales with an uncertain sales with new products.
Therefore Directors of business offer incentives to Salesmen in order to change the kind of products sold to clients to reach the objective of the Company, which is, as we know, maximize profits and not sales (while for salesmen is the opposite, as they normally receive bonus/incentives on the sales budget reached at the end of the fiscal year).
I hope I explained myself well in another language than mine.
In addition, I would like to stress that this is just a comparison with what happens with normal products in the market, I don’t have any proof that it is what it happened with antibiotics and vaccines.
I’m just comparing Sales strategy.
Many antibiotics are very inexpensive. If fewer antibiotics are sold, there might be more of a market for higher priced drugs that pharmaceutical companies would prefer to sell. I could imagine that this line of thinking could have entered into the decision to cut back on antibiotic sales.
By increasing early deaths – people denied such effective early treatment with long-known generic drugs will die – it also increases demand for the new and lucrative drug line to come in and miraculously ‘save’ everyone. A cynical calculation.
They also need to get rid of those pesky regulatory constraints which impede profit-taking, trials, secure and consistent manufacturing, etc.
Lo and behold! The EUA’s did just that; and we are now told that the vaccines emerging from the global network of mRNA factories for new threats will be developed and sent to market in only 100 days.
And, again, this assumes that existing generic drugs will be of no use in future scenarios.
Many older drugs are so good that there is no point in investing in developing new ones: but if you can sweep them away, excluding them from new treatment protocols, a fortune is to be made from a scantily-tested new generation of drugs.
I can’t imagine letting people die because the only viable treatment to prevent death – antibiotics — was not generating enough profit…
I can imagine the patients being given alternative meds that replaced antibiotics that were more expensive… but that does not exist.
I can imagine that hospitals would have been told not to give antibiotics because a very powerful entity wanted to drive respiratory deaths through the roof — plaster CNNBBC with the death photos — so that MOREONS would inject Rat Juice.
That I can imagine.
Could power satellites replace fossil fuels?
The question is mostly economic. I will try to answer it without
advanced technology.
The first thing is what it will cost to haul power satellite parts
into space. SpaceX’s big rocket has almost 40 engines under it. The
engines cost 1/4 million each or ten million worth of engines.
Assuming that to be half, the cost of a starship and booster would be
$20 million. They are expected to fly 100 times, making the amortized
cost $200,000 per flight. Double that for refurbishment and add the
cost of fuel at $600/ton and 1000 tons, and the cost per flight gets
up to around $1 million. $10^6/10^5 kg is ten dollars a kg.
It takes 3.9 km/s delta V to get from 300 km to GEO at 36,000 km. The
mass ratio (mass final/mass starting) is 1/e^Vmission/Vexhaust. .42
for LOX/LH2 and .37 for LOX/Methane. For the latter, a kg in GEO
would take 1/mass starting = .37 or 2.7 kg so for every kg you need to
lift another 1.7 kg of fuel/reaction mass. The cost of this fuel in a
300 km orbit is $17/kg. So $10/kg the first step and $17/kg for the
second. This analysis ignores the cost of the tug moving cargo from
LEO to GEO, but it should not be a big factor.
On a per kW basis, the rectenna and parts are estimated to cost $1100.
For 6.5 kg/kW, the cost to lift the parts to GEO would be $175, making
the installed cost of a power satellite around $1275/kW. This gives a
power cost of about 1.6 cents a kWh. To put it in familiar energy
terms, this corresponds to a synthetic fuel cost of less than $50/bbl.
At 6.5 kg/kW, a 5 GW power sat masses 32,000 tons, with reaction mass
to move it out to GEO, 87,750 tons or 877 launches to build one 5 GW
power satellite. At 50 power satellites/year, around 44,000 flights
per year. If the rockets can launch every other day, a fleet of under
250 would be enough. This is the worst case, there are electric
propulsion approaches that will considerably reduce the reaction mass.
It is also possible that the mass of a power satellite could be
reduced.
This analysis does not consider profits or large taxes on energy. The
latter, Gail will object to.
A second generation might be based on a 10 GW laser in GEO and a
modified Skylon powered by the laser. The exhaust velocity from the
ground to GEO would average over 10 km/s, putting more than 1/3 of the
takeoff mass in orbit. Such a project would have a prodigious demand
for liquid hydrogen. 5 flights at 200 tons per flight is 1000 t/h.
This would take 20 GWh/1000 tons/hr or 4 5 GW power satellites.
A third generation would be mining an asteroid to make power
satellites. You need to make an awful lot of assumptions to get an
estimate of the cost, but it is probably a good deal less than half a
cent per kWh.
Perhaps more later.
(Didn’t post, try again)
Timing is a huge issue. We need something now, not 20 or 30 or 50 years from now.
We also will need a lot of things besides electricity, to make all of these rockets and send them, for example.
never mind
fusion is only 40 years away:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/qai/2022/12/14/nuclear-fusion-breakthrough-the-future-of-clean-limitless-energy/amp/
(again)
How much reflector acreage are you thinking about?
Can these things double as death-rays? If so, I’m sure we can muster up some funding, irrespective of whether they address our energy needs. We need a way to control the peasants post-collapse!
keith … keith…. keith….
I guess you didn’t get the memo – they are exterminating us…
I know it’s not on BBCCNN but that is what they are doing
So, what else is new?
must’ve been through this a thousand times.
if we stretch our credibility to the limit, and get this energy back to Earth.
What exactly do we do with it?
You tell us much about getting hold of unlimited energy HK, but unless i’ve missed it, little or nothing of how to use it here on earth.
You see—we live in a wage earning society, not a ‘nothing’ society.
We use energy to produce ‘stuff’ and pay ourselves wages in the process of doing so.
The 2nd law of thermodynamics says that the stuff we make will wear out, so we must continue to suck in more energy to make more ‘stuff’. Wages are the result of energy conversion. Which involves creation of heat.
If the entire planet decides they want a ‘western’ standard of living, the planet will cook itself it the process of paying each other’s wages. We cannot live ‘off Earth’. On that point i must reluctantly agree with eddy.
If unlimited energy supplies us to excess, and in some way we get our living ‘doing nothing’ we will engage in other forms or recreation.
And increase our numbers even more.
Keith, the blue blob is blocking Elon’s starship. They do not want to allow any accomplishment by a non-member of the blob. It is not just cost per kilogram but also ideology. Maybe China or Russia.
Have you seen that thing? It looks like a prop from Flash Gordon. And I think that’s all it is, a prop.
Keith, like so many others thinking about whatever type of cornucopian future, you look at only the best possible scenario, not the most likely. for example….
” I will try to answer it without advanced technology.”
Using today’s technology….
“They are expected to fly 100 times” …. That’s not TODAY’S technology, we don’t know how many flights we can get out of them. The Falcon heavy is only expecting 2 flights from their re-usable stuff..
“For 6.5 kg/kW” for solar panels?? What types are these made from ordinary plentiful materials, or are they highly specialist that take mountains of earth moved to get minor quantities of rare earths??
“Such a project would have a prodigious demand for liquid hydrogen”
Why?? The starship raptor engines use methane, not liquid hydrogen. We would need hydrogen plus carbon capture then the sabatier process equipment. Did you add all this into your cost, plus all the solar, wind, or nuclear plants to make the original electricity, plus the electrolysers etc??
No-one looks at the total energy needed to do any of these fancy plans, which includes building all the new factories to make this new equipment, and the factories that have to be built to provide the machinery inside the new factories, plus all the engineers, construction workers etc, etc…
The cost of the raw materials that go into building the rockets, the fuel, etc is only a tiny part of the overall energy cost of the system in the background that needs to keep running ‘normally’ to allow any of this to happen, plus either a growth in overall energy (not likely) or taking energy resources from some other use. Trying to take energy resources from other uses will drive the cost up of all energy, making assumptions of ‘cost’ in a vacuum as per your method totally irrelevant.
Considering the energy cost of energy is rising, making less net energy available for the wider community as is happening now, which is why the world is in so much debt trouble and equality trouble, already ; finding more energy to make any large future project costs come close to forecast is proving impossible. Think the huge blowouts in new nuclear plants as a standard example.
The real energy cost of building you space solar is gigantic with current technology, yet if they started it fairly quickly the costs would blow out to excessive amounts, just like the cost of building of every new nuclear power plant, or large wind farm, or new hydroelectric dam and plant.
BTW Spacex is currently advertising $275,000 for 50kg of payload and $5,500 per kg above that to SSO. This is current technology. Now work out your costs using these numbers and currently available panels.
BTW2, How easily are the panels going to be damaged by space junk flying all around the place up there or tails of comets, meteorites etc? Space is not ’empty’ waiting to be filled with (more) human junk.
All this before we get to Normans point about more electricity in the name of growth, to overheat the planet…
To add to the excellent comments by Hideaway…I question the $1100/kW number quoted for space solar components.
A kW of commercial Solar panels alone for a ground system is going to run maybe $600 in volume. But for space we are talking about special coatings and special solar cells. The aluminum frames of the panels will have to be coated to protect them from reactions with free radicals in space. Similar special coatings will be needed for the solar cells. Space qualified components are presently manufactured in special, low-volume quantities. Entirely new manufacturing infrastructure would have to be created to manufacture space components in volume. The resulting cost will be significantly higher that what you estimate. I would personally quadruple it…
I am working on some space scientific satellite applications right now. Costs (for coatings and special materials for example) are going through the roof…pardon the pun but they are going astronomical.
We know here that energy constraints are contributing to costs going up. But this printing press in Washington is not only destroying our livelihoods and savings, but it is destroying even the governments ability to field scientific systems that previously were easily affordable. It is destroying EVERYTHING. And when we look back at why we can no longer afford to launch a satellite of some sort…we can point to $40-50B for Ukraine…and then ten thousand other debt based foolish, corrupt expenditures that ate away at the value of the dollar and even the almighty federal governments ability to do all these things.
We call it inflation, and from Gayle’s teaching we know that part of it is energy constraints…but this money printing is a time bomb…it will destroy us.
Your satellite is not possible. We talk about when we reach collapse. We are there.
I didn’t see a discussion on the cost or feasibility of the ground receiving and converting array. BTW, you also did not add in the replacement cost within say…. 20 yrs. So every 20 yrs we do it all over again?
Of course….we will have electric launch vehicles by then….
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leaky (non-sterilizing) vaccines are exceedingly dangerous. there is a reason we don’t use them. viruses that can still replicate and spread get forced toward variants that take advantage of the vaccine and its having locked you into one, narrow response vector. and if they can find variants that elicit no IgG3 and lots of IgG4, they get to run riot.
and if you have created a widespread homogeneous herd immunity profile that can be taken advantage of, you’re really in for it.
everybody gets this and no one can generate sound immunity.
this would be entirely unprecedented in human history.
https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/are-covid-vaccines-causing-persistent
Now we just wait… for the riot …. and the dead bodies piling up in the hospital parking lots…
We are on borrowed time. We are f789ed.
Bossche will be right.
The antibodies formed are of the wrong type to stop the Covid illness. This was one paragraphs describing the situation. You want IgG3 antibodies fighting off infections, not IgG4s.
I noticed that this article points to an article by “Rintrah” called, The trainwreck of all trainwrecks: Billions of people stuck with a broken immune response
This article is very good. Part of what it says is this
Gail, thanks for the link and the curation. From the comment section:
Radagast, I’m trying to boil this down into a form I can share with others, so with apologies for much simplification, I’m trying to do an “explain it like I’m 5” version of your hypothesis:
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a normal immune response to various respiratory viruses differs between various people, which is a good thing as it means the virus can’t evolve to fit all these responses. the mRNA gene therapy, however, has concentrated the immune response among those who’ve taken it into a single type of response, which is that of a pathogen that the body sees often, and thus learns to tolerate (such as bee stings). it so happens that the sarscov2 virus shares much in common with other respiratory virus, so the end result is that the gene therapied cohort are now tolerating, rather than eliminating, many different respiratory viruses, and are therefore getting frequently sick, and spreading these viruses. immune system degradation, whereby repeated infections gradually deplete the body’s ability to fight infections, is making this process even worse. children particularly are suffering, as their immune systems haven’t been exposed to many of the viruses that adults have already seen and fought off. this process will continue, as more and more people get infected with viruses that their immune systems tolerate, and thus even the un-gene-therapied cohort suffer as there so many more than normal sick people spreading infections that their immune systems are becoming overwhelmed, too.
possible solutions (aside from the obvious, stop with the mRNA shots ASAP); if you’re sick, stay home until completely recovered to give your immune system a chance to recover, too. eat a mostly veg-based diet. eat fermented food.
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any corrections, clarifications or wholesale rewrites appreciated. i find your hypothesis quite terrifying, all the more so since it does seem to fit with what we’re seeing, from monkeypox to the current wave of respiratory viruses.
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Radagast
DECEMBER 25, 2022 AT 3:53 PM
Yes, this pretty much summarizes what I suspect is going on.
Try telling a CovIDIOT that the rat juice results in AIDS with a V… they’ll unhinge and beat you to death.
I ain’t got no V-AIDS… that’s from f789in monkeys.
AIDS has some really scary connotations for humans… rotting away with festering cancers and lesions hahaha… More Boosters please… yes – give them MORE… give them as many as they demand
Establish tolerance to a certain part of rhe immune system does not mean more asymptomatic infections. Other parts will take over.
We could speculate that they need tolerance for aonther round of injections. But that is beyond my understanding.
The body distinguishes between self-made proteins and foreign proteins. How does this process work? Do we know enough to interfere into this system? The vaxx makes the organism creste self-made foreign protein. Where are the studies to estimate it’s consquences?
For me that is the most alarming point against the vaxx.
There is a symbolic aspect: We become or at least function like a chimera of human and man-made virus. Transhumanism gets another meaning!
It’s VAIDS. Nothing more to know
The question of “asymptomatic transmission of respiratory viruses” always makes me think of the magnum problem of the tergeverization of Paraguayan nucleotides when they are phenomenologically exposed to asymptotic attrition.
Don’t know why.
Old buddy in high school called it “the technicality of the rhigorhompus”.
Believe it or not, I once had a brass rhigorhompus that pumped out two cubic meters of respiratory virus per hour! Unfortunately I had to dispose of it since the viruses were too heavy and cumbersome to produce the required asymptomatic transmission. Such a pity. I traded him in for a German shepherd named Günter.
it appears that IgG4 acts as a form of “shepherd” for chronic exposure to things that should not always be pathogens. you get irritated by cat dander and your body responds with histamines and inflammation. but binding by something like like IgG4 would attenuate or even stop that response.
IgG4 is not about removing a pathogen, it’s about creating a “tolerance” by preventing your body from attacking whatever it has bound to. this may be fine for peanuts, but for a replicating respiratory pathogen with high organ affinity, it could be an all access arson pass to burn you down while you fail to elicit any effective immune response.
mistaking a virus for an allergen is a very, very bad outcome.
and this is where you get the nasty OAS issues i’ve been banging on about for a year or more and that keeps showing up in the data
https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/are-covid-vaccines-causing-persistent
This is going to end very badly .. very very badly …. can it not be more obvious?
Badly = goodly though … anything that exterminates humans is goodly.
well then perhaps the next release is a pollen (for fiction see Vurt 1997 by Jeff Noon) from which the waxed will be protected.
but what’s going on here is, while a complex system, actually remarkably simple and may well be the mechanism that ties together antigenic fixation/OAS to long covid effects, organ damage, and persistent excess deaths in the covid vaxxed world.
we have been repeatedly told that “these vaccine boosters induce antibody response” as though that proves efficacy and in order to sidestep a need for clinical data. but the reality is much more complex.
just making antibodies means little. you need to know how well they work. produce the wrong ones and you get antigenic fixation and vaccine advantaged virus. this is a known and knowable problem with “leaky” vaccines.
but there are other issues one can run into as well, particularly what the types and roles of antibodies elicited are.
and what’s going on in boosters appears worrying.
so let’s look.
https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/are-covid-vaccines-causing-persistent
Good stuff from Latypova here. Found the link in the comment section of the Metatron.substack piece he posted.
NOBODY KNOWS WHAT IS IN THE VIALS
https://sashalatypova.substack.com/p/nobody-knows-what-is-in-the-vials?r=qs0ms&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
“Returning to mRNA manufacturing, multiplying even an optimistic 80% yield by, for example, 7 process steps results in 20% final yield, and if the in-process failures are larger, final yield is single digit percentage or a failure has occurred. Each step generates large amounts of impurities, which are never fully removed as aggressive purification will break the fragile product. Furthermore, the mRNA substance is never equally distributed in the batch volume as thorough mixing of the product is not possible due to its fragility, and lipids tend to float to the top of the vat as well as stick and congregate together. Dangerous possibly cytotoxic aggregates of broken LNPs and mRNA (mRNA adducts) can result and were reported by Moderna a full year after large scale deployment of their product. As a result, the larger the volume of the batch, the more inhomogeneity at the vial level. These conditions can create over-concentrated, toxic vials and the ones that could be “blanks”, or anything in between. The larger the batch volume the more duds it will produce, which in case of this product is largely good news for the injectees. Avoidance of specifying any product conformity tests at the vial level by the manufacturers seems to be intentional in this context.”
This problem could explain the huge differences noticed between different Covid mRNA vaccine vials.
If you eliminate the requirement to identify the substance empirically you also eliminate any need to try to ensure its quality. You cant quantify a unknown. Yes totally eliminating product and process control “stream lines” its creation. 15 years to 3 months. Innovative! Of course since that is 2/3 rds of what constitutes the legal definition of a pharmaceutical product a different category of substance manufacture one without so much “red tape” must be used.
I dont seem to remember Trump mentioning that these are not pharmaceutical products, or Biden. Or Rachel Maddow as she told us that everyone that didnt inject this dogshit was a nazi.
Puzzling. Yes puzzling that.
If you have not identified a substance all further speculation about its properties is a guess a narrative. It may well be a informed guess but it is not science it is in actuality the antithesis to science. A narrative. Of course if you have multiple overlapping legal indemnity it doesnt matter you can say it sprouts wings.
Every manufacturing process from Mongolia to Vietnam uses six sigma for half cent trinkets but this substance doesnt even need to start the characterization process. Take this to Shenzhen they would either laugh or vomit. But dont take my word for it ask anybody in manufacturing what the implications are. A green belt in statistics is almost a entry level requirement now.
I agree. Im not sure anyone knows what this dogshit is. (no offense to dogs) Not the spooks the manufacturers or the doctors. They may know what their extra special ingredient to particular batches is. Or not. Wild wild west.
look! it appears to be … oh a piano falling. and it appears I am underneath it.
Puzzling. Yes puzzling that.
It’s so terrible and scary but somehow years go by and nothing happens. Maybe they really are just vaccines.
Thats how you would characterize the last couple years “nothing happens”?
Casey Hodgkinson might have a different opinion.
If you were to go to a interview at any manufacturing plant and disclose you thought product and process control should be abandoned the interview would immediately terminate. If you were to advocate abandoning process and product control in a engineering meeting you would immediately be considered incompetent. Your mental health would be questioned. These practices are understood as the foundation of a efficient and quality product. They are necessary in order to be competitive in the manufacture of any product from a cost efficiency perspective. In pharmaceutical products their implementation is necessary to achieve a minimum level of safety. The injections are not pharmaceutical products.
People develop emotional tastes. It flavors logic strongly. I would not be honest if I didnt acknowledge that I am the same. People who look for and identify problems to head them off have a particular mind set. It does create misperceptions upon occaison.
The average person doesn’t like the idea of danger. People like their framework, they have a plan, they want what we all want, a roof over the head, sex, pleasant interactions, family, a degree of meaning in our work. Its certainly not unreasonable in the least.
Largely what we do as humans is learn to discard data. We discard 99% of our sensory input to operate. When a threat arises the logical mind will discard it with near 100% probability. Luckily a characteristic arises in humans sometimes in critical situations that are readily observed. Something other than logic overrides and dictates behavior because the mind is fundamentally unable to acknowledge immediate threats to existence. Its a curious experience if you have ever experienced it. Its why safety and security experts always advocate listening to the “gut feeling”.
In regard to human predators they understand the human desire to want things to be “nice”. It is their primary tool in manipulating and violating their victims.
There is a conflict of paradigms in between those who discard data because their model is “nice” an whose paradigm is “not nice”. IMO the signals that this is a rather “not nice” situation are overwhelming but you are correct that I definitely represent a “not nice” paradigm based on my life experiences and it influences my perceptions.
Believe it or not its not mutually exclusive in terms of desires. The minority “not nice” camp desires all of the things the “nice” camp does. A “not nice” paradigm doesnt mean you dont value relationships gentleness harmony honesty family and the simple pleasures of life. Au contraire. If we didnt we would just watch lambs walk to the slaughter. Obviously the most correct action for self preservation would be to be silent.
Im just a human. No more no less. I always question myself. If new evidence arise that shows my reasoning wrong I always embrace it to the degree I am able. I hope I am wrong. Im not. But i could be. Believe me i would give just about anything t be wrong in these matters. I understand why people attack the messenger.
Withnail how about your statement. “the vaccinations do not effect DNA” . Do you wish to address that statement in regard to the Swedish study clearly showing DNA modification via reverse transcription by these substances? What is the source of these one line statements you constantly emit? Are you even aware of your bias?
Maybe they really are just vaccines.
hahaha… ya and all those studies that show they destroy immune are just fake… and all those CovIDIOTS stuffing up the hospital emergency wards are fake hahaha
And not giving antibiotics to patients to kill them and drive up deaths to encourage i diots to inject Rat Juice — oh ya that was just a mistake DUH.
Why are people so anxious for the End Game? Is your popcorn getting stale???
Have a little patience… their immune systems are ruined — and they react by getting more injections … you watch how quickly people get up to date on their boosters as this let’s rip…
The very thing they were tricked into believing was happening — IS happening.
hahaha… you betcha they gonna get more Rat Juice… you can bank on it… which will throw aviation fuel on this sucker…
Oh and BTW – China is opening up hahaha… even better! Let er Rip!
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-12-27/new-passports-hong-kong-permits-for-china-as-covid-zero-comes-down?srnd=premium-asia
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I plagiarized your descriptive term of “dog shit”. Considering my new understandings of the elimination of all product and process characterization and control in the manufacture of the dog shit and the revelation that the composition of the dog shit is unidentified I found it appropriate but plagiarization is plagiarization. All rights belong to Eddywit TM.
Nothing happens. I know hundreds of people who have had all the shots. All of them fine.
I know a half dozen people who reported reactions to the vaccines.. BP spike, heart palpitations, persistent flu-like symptoms, stamina, breathing and balance issues and repeat Covid infections in elderly man requiring hospitalization not to mention observations of heart attack and stroke deaths in older, middle age people.
I’ve stopped counting the people I know who have had severe injuries from the vax… it’s closing in on 20 now…
The latest was a spin instructor at M Fast’s gym – she had a stroke mid class. Taken away by ambulance… no updates on her condition… that makes 3 instructors from that single gym – one heart issues – one seizures – one stroke. All incredibly fit people – all injected (mandated)
I wonder how the hockey coach in Dunedin is doing – he was on the heart transplant list last I looked… he’s basically f789ed even if he gets a heart… and the odds are the heart will come from another vaxxed MORE-ON so it will be full of spike as well.
The other day I got caught up in traffic — I could see flashing lights a km or so up the road… the jam was caused by people rubber necking … there was an undamaged car parked on the side of the highway … and a woman was sitting on a stretcher being treated by the paramedic… didn’t look life threatening… probably just a mild stroke… nothing to worry about of course… definitely not the safe and effective jab
yup
for the past year or so, i’ve been treading very carefullly in case i tripped over any of those ‘piles of maimed and dead babies’ i kept being warned about.
maybe they get picked up and disposed of every night
You don’t know if they are fine … I know of one person who has heart issues post jab… she dismissed them as nothing … does not seek treatment.
She only told M Fast because M Fast was telling her about a friend in Hong Kong who has myocarditis post jab 2.
She does not seek help no doubt because she is afraid.
It is shameful to admit to a vax injury — it might discourage others from injecting — so they suffer in silence
Let’s see what reality looks like for the average MOREON…. click only one as they both have the same China Covid stories….
https://www.bbc.com/news
https://edition.cnn.com/
So we see hospitals bombarded with Covid coupled with the opening of China…
What does that do to a MOREON?
Single word.
trepidation
trĕp″ĭ-dā′shən
noun
A state of alarm or dread; apprehension. synonym: fear.
An involuntary trembling or quivering.
Tremulous agitation; perturbation; alarm.
The MOREONS are being prepared for the next phase of UEP.
norm – are you more fearful today? Triple masking? Are you harassing the nurses about that 7th rat juice shot so you can remain safe and effective?
I hope everyone enjoyed their final Christmas… eat as much as you want – it doesn’t matter
Meanwhile in outer space, the law remains the same. Complexity leads to complications, at least when it comes to renewables. 4 years, for lack of a cleaning maid with a dust broom for NASA’s Insight Mars Lander solar panels.
Didn’t the Voyager I continue to have power to record and transmit data for over 40 years from its nuclear powered reactor as it passed out of the heliosphere and into interstellar space?
https://open.substack.com/pub/blackmon/p/mondays-energy-absurdity-how-solar?r=16win7&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
Hubble Telescope is fake. All photos and videos of contraptions on Mars — are fake.
Van Allen Belts fry humans and computers – NASA says so:
one of the minor goals in my life, is to discover something in eddys life that isn’t fake.
If out of courtesy, we exclude hoolio, (dogs don’t fake anything) then the mind boggles when everything else is brought into consideration.
This is looking more and more like mental illness… which might just be a glitch in the CTG simulation
They cut off CTG’s simulation last week—-he failed to pay his electricity bill—the cost has quadrupled in the last 2 months.
now—if the wealthier members of OFW, such as yourself, could pass around the old sombrero, enough money might be chipped in to get it going again.
That way we might find out who is a simulation, and who is an out and out liar and BS merchant.
Whadja think eddy?
Or should you stop digging and throw away your shovel?
I do so enjoy the amusement though.
The title of the article in your link is Monday’s Energy Absurdity: How Solar Power Gen Even Failed NASA on Mars
From the link:
We cannot depend on solar (and wind)!
Zelensky https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/dave-collums-2022-year-review-part-2-war-ukraine-how-does-it-end
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The US public is being fed a very untrue story about what is happening in Ukraine.
Japan to Extract Rare Earths From Seabed Starting 2024
By Naveen Athrappully December 25, 2022 Updated: Epoch Times
Japan plans on beginning the extraction of rare earth metals from the region around Minamitorishima Island in 2024 as the country attempts to wean away from depending on China for critical resources.
Work on developing extraction technologies for the endeavor will begin next year. The rare earth-rich mud is located on a seafloor at a depth of 6,000 meters. As such, Tokyo has to first develop technologies to extract at such depths. Deep-sea mining faces several technical hurdles. Unlike oil and gas which gush out from a hole, mud needs to be taken out using methods like pumping.
Rare earths refer to 17 rare metals essential in modern components like semiconductors, electric motors, solar panels, etc. At present, Japan imports almost all its rare metals, with China accounting for 60 percent of the supply.
“Japan will curb excessive dependence on specific countries, carry forward next-generation semiconductor development and manufacturing bases, and secure stable supply for critical goods, including rare earths,” Japan’s most recent National Security Strategy states, according to Nikkei Asia.
Between August and September, researchers succeeded in pumping out mud deposits from a depth of 2,470 meters. In its second supplementary budget for fiscal 2022, the Japanese national legislature approved 6 billion yen ($44 million) for research and development into extracting rare earths.
Mud that is rich in rare earth elements and yttrium (REY) has several advantages like “high rare earth element content (especially the heavy rare-earth elements [HREE] from Eu to Lu), huge amounts, a paucity of radioactive elements (U and Th), and easy extraction and recovery. Therefore, the mud is expected to be viewed as a highly promising new mineral resource,” states a 2018 study published in Nature.
Eu refers to Europium, Lu to Lutetium, U to Uranium, and Th to Thorium. In 2013, REY-rich mud with deep-sea sediments containing 2,000 parts per million (ppm) to over 5,000 ppm was found in the Japanese Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ) around Minamitorishima Island.
The team calculated the REY content for the region to be in excess of 16 million tons of rare earth oxides and believes the area has the potential to supply certain rare earths on a “semi-infinite basis” to the world.
The region is estimated to be capable of supplying Yttrium for 780 years, Europium for 620 years, Terbium for 420 years, and Dysprosium for 730 years, the authors said.
Japan’s push to cut back dependence on China for the supply of rare earths is a policy that is also being pursued by Washington. The U.S. Department of Defense is taking steps to make sure that American defense firms are decoupled from China as much as possible.
In September, the Pentagon halted deliveries of fifth-generation F-35 jets once it came to light that a magnet used in the aircraft was made from an alloy of samarium and cobalt with origins in China.
A month after the jets were put on hold, a defense official signed a waiver to resume deliveries. The Chinese state-run media outlet Global Times called the waiver proof of America’s dependence on Chinese rare earth products, and validation that Beijing can bring the U.S. military to heel by limiting the export of such resources.
Meanwhile, attempts are ongoing to create rare earth metal alternatives to bypass Chinese control over the elements. In October, it was reported that scientists from the University of Cambridge, along with their colleagues from Austria, discovered a method to make magnets without the use of rare earths.
So, we ravaged the surface of the planet and altered the atmospheric composition…even had space junk orbiting around the sphere
What else? Oh the seabed! Bravo gentlemen…the last frontier of mankind… wouldn’t expect anything less from us clever grabbers
We have already been harming the sea bed with our off shore wind turbines, anchored in the bottom. Also, with the big fishing boats that scrape the ocean floor. I understand China uses fishing boats that harm the ocean floor.
Take it to the next level …mining…progress of BAU
Think modern minds need a Doctor…like yesterday
we are tearing the planet apart as a last means of survival
a few of us have noticed that the earth is fighting back
“a few of us have noticed that the earth is fighting back”
Yup, fabric of the universe; we can stretch it a bit here and there, but a tough resilient fabric. Seems like this is an old myth, a story about being in harmony with the world, nature, universe.
So many now have empty lives that it seems they grab abstract ideas rather than deal with the reality before them, a desire to change the fabric so to speak.
Soon a new year, we are all here, doom has passed us once again.
Happy New Year to OFW, wonderful to learn from all of you.
Dennis L.
Careful there. That sounds a bit metaphysical lol.
Truth is, the planet as contrived is scheduled for a housecleaning anyway.
It is coming fast, the magnetic field is in major excursion…. that alone will remove Industrial technological humans from the surface world almost completely.
A simple less than Carrington level event now would drive us into the 1600s level of tech alone.
We have 20% of the field strength since late 1800s. It is accelerating rapidly.
Here you thought available energy was the threat!?
>>We have 20% of the field strength since late 1800s. It is accelerating rapidly.
Source please.
Sorry, slip of spell correct there….
We have lost 20% of field strength since late 1800s….. to be fully factual and clear.
Magnetic poles are migrating at around 5 miles a month heading in a beeline for a “ meeting” in the Indian Ocean.
Where “ mysteriously” the Indonesian government has recently placed a geophysical monitoring station. No given plausible reason of course,…. move along, nothing to see here.
The worldwide DUMBs network was never designed for nuke war. Not really. But for something much, much, much worse.
Of course long before any “ meeting” occurs we will have complete turmoil, major excursion and vast weakening of the field strength.
Why don’t you doubters start asking airliner pilots in your sphere if they would rely on current published magnetic maps to navigate anywhere? ( thank the gods for satellite based gps).
The ancients knew there was fire in the sky. They drew the anomalies on cave walls across the planet 12,000 bp.
We will too, inside the next 20 years.
Eye rollers,……..cattle going into kill plants do this all the time.
Medium rare,…. or well done,…..?
Cause the fire of god just achieved ignition within our solar system
Norman told me earlier that he believes in the Gaia theory.
From Wikipedia
‘The Gaia theory proposes that living organisms interact with their inorganic surroundings on Earth to form a synergistic and self-regulating, complex system that helps to maintain and perpetuate the conditions for life on the planet.:
Today many scientists consider it to be only weakly supported by, or at odds with, the available evidence.’
In effect, pseudo-science – according to Wikipedia. A lie, then?
It’s no joke, you know, Pinocchio!
It is only a theory–of course.
but on the other hand, I can can refer you to a time when scientists dismissed the idea of continents moving around, or of the trees in a forest communicating with each other. (plus many more)
All organisms, when under attack, have defence mechanisms.
It could be that the earth itself has a form of intelligent awareness that we are not intelligent enough to understand.
Near the end of this book, Chan Thomas describes the results of putting mice in a low magnetic field environment. Cannibalism and aggressive rape were among the symptoms.
https://archive.org/details/TheAdamAndEveStory_201904
Survival!? What, to create advanced weapons systems for security against ourselves we deem as adversaries?
Humans have a lively imagination that are destroying not only themselves, but living creatures.
i think its more than mere imagination somehow
Yes, Norm, you are correct again…more truth in jest..
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N1KvgtEnABY
We all have are “realities”…Dr Strangelove
I recently came across Chad A. Haag on YT and I recommend him highly to OFWers, he is a fan of The Archdruid it seems but don’t let that put you off as he, at least, formulates a philosophy based on Peak Oil. Fascinating stuff.
This is a link to Chad A. Haag’s philosophy YT page:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJIIMmCfJxBv5-jGTK3iIMw
A day wouldn’t be complete..
There is a strong possibility that COVID is weakening the immune systems of “a good deal of people,” Galiasatos added.
“I do think the immunodeficiency—when it’s there, it’s transient—allows those viruses to reemerge,” he said.
Scientists are still unsure if viruses like Epstein-Barr merely initiate Chronic Fatigue Syndrome or keep symptoms going, the October study points out. Similarly, researchers are still unsure what, if any, role latent viruses—including, potentially, SARS-CoV-2 itself—play in the development of long COVID.
…It’s possible that COVID is reactivating latent viruses in at least a portion of long COVID patients, causing Chronic Fatigue Syndrome symptoms, Dr. Alba Miranda Azola, co-director of the long COVID clinic at Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine, told Fortune.
But her clinic doesn’t check for the reactivation of viruses in long COVID patients. She doesn’t think the possibility of such viruses causing symptoms in patients is worth giving those patients antivirals or antibiotics, which can lead to undesirable side effects.
…A mild or even an asymptomatic case of COVID can cause reservoirs of some viruses you’ve previously battled to reactivate, potentially leading to symptoms of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome—a condition that resembles long COVID, according to a recent study published in the journal Frontiers in Immunology.
Researchers found herpes viruses like Epstein-Barr, one of the drivers behind mono, circulating in unvaccinated patients who had experienced COVID. In patients with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, antibody responses were stronger, signaling an immune system struggling to fight off the lingering viruses.
Such non-COVID pathogens have been named as likely culprits behind Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, also known as myalgic encephalomyelitis. The nebulous condition with no definitive cause leads to symptoms like fatigue, brain fog, dizziness when moving, and unrefreshing sleep.
https://fortune.com/well/2022/12/26/is-long-covid-chronic-fatigue-syndrome-myalgic-encephalomyelitis/amp/
There is a strong possibility that COVID is weakening the immune systems of “a good deal of people,” Galiasatos added.
The above is not in order of the article posted..
Noticed a big push on the TV to get up to date boosters…only 15% of Americans are..
Need another round of mandates to ensure the herd 🦬 complies.
Notice this is a scare article about Covid, not a scare article about the vaccines. Leads up to “get vaccinated.”
If there is a strong push for boosters in US, Americans should carefully hear what Professor Shmuel Shapira (Head of Israel Institute for Biological Research from 2013 to 2021) is saying about mRNA vaccines:
‘Former Senior Researcher: it was a mistake to take the COVID vaccine
Pfizer vaccine is neither safe nor effective,
Professor Shmuel Shapira, who headed the Israel Institute for Biological Research from 2013 to 2021, and led Israel’s domestic coronavirus vaccine development program, has castigated the Health Ministry both over its push to impose lockdowns in 2020 and 2021, as well its support for the mass-vaccination campaign beginning in December 2020.
There are many, many reports around the world of HEART MUSCLE INFLAMMATION linked to this vaccine. Heart muscle inflammation can sometimes be FATAL.
The (mRNA Covid) vaccine “harms young people, and can cause serious NEUROLOGICAL diseases. And, apparently – I want to be very cautious here because this is only starting to come to light – it can increase the RISK OF CERTAIN KINDS OF CANCER.”
While Shapira defended vaccines generally, he said that he regretted receiving the Pfizer mRNA vaccine.’
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/364671
In case the link doesn’t work, please search:
‘Former Senior Researcher: It was a mistake to take the COVID vaccine. Pfizer vaccine is neither safe nor effective.’
ISRAEL NATIONAL NEWS – ARUTZ SHEVA
Dec 20, 2022, 8:23 AM (GMT+2)
Thanks, Student, afraid this and other studies will not be available to the public airways here in the US.
If mentioned, will be pawned off as rare and the vaccine benefit outweighs the adverse reactions.
I agree this massive program of vaccinations was an experiment in population control and an opportunity for massive profit taking by the pharmaceuticals and showing our government was doing something.
Circus animals just have better training … they are still MOREONS
Inner nut shell’ (pun intended)
‘Immunosenescence’ explained for all.
‘The thymus shrinks, then you die’
you can’t buy another.
It can last 105 yrs if you maintain it well.
Vaccines only work if you have the hardware to produce immunity. The older the person, the more stress (including pathogens fought) and the more sex hormones ( Eddy 😉 the less this is so.
Injections that result in ineffective short duration antibodies ablate the bodies natural immune resources and VERY likely increase the process of Immunosenescence and Thymic involution.
Adequate zinc availability and absorption reduces the rate of Immunosenescence. (We already know about the benefits of Vit B’s, C, D3 and K2 + Magnisuim as well as zinc Ionophores)
Reduced exposure to viral loading and multiple pathogens also benefits, but zero exposure is likely, ironically harmful.
Use it or lose it, as well as
don’t abuse it, and it might last a bit longer,
seems built into nature. Well Who knew?
We all have an immune system, a resource, it will one day deplete, how you conserve this form, is up to you.
Burn your oil slowly and only when needed like a wise ‘Virgin naïve, mature lymphocyte’
Of course OFW’s seen the ‘Chafe and Defective’ payloaders coming a mile out.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immunosenescence
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thymic_involution
Thanks! I know we have seen other articles about the importance of the thymus, and how it shrinks with age. Also, some of the other things you mention.
(Eventi Avversi News)
“Franco Frattini, 65, dies. As president of the Council of State, he had rejected appeals against the suspension of unvaccinated health care workers”
He also declared that (the by now known as) the ‘wrong-drugs-protocol’ made by Minister of Health (that is: ‘antipyretic Tachipirina and just wait and see’), was only a suggestion to Italian Doctors and not an order to Italian Doctors.
But, actually, Italian Doctors were not allowed to treat differently their patients.
The ‘wrong-drugs-protocol’ is also by now known to be one of the main reasons why people with Covid arrived to hospitals in such bad conditions.
https://www.eventiavversinews.it/muore-franco-frattini-65-anni-da-presidente-del-consiglio-di-stato-aveva-bocciato-i-ricorsi-contro-la-sospensione-dei-sanitari/
Being a puppet is hard work. There are no guarantees, no written contracts, and plenty of candidates for the job.
lots of strings too
The day after …cold,and rainy here with a dark overcast..perfect for doom…
Hope everyone at OFW is holding on…days away from 2023…remember FE writing we would all be eating rat meat ….
Here is a link to the latest post by Alice Friedman’s Energy Sceptic blog that Fast Eddy harps about..
energyskeptic
Preface. One the greatest tragedies of energy decline will be the nuclear waste left to harm thousands of future generation for hundreds of thousands of years. We owe it to them to clean up our mess while we still have the fossil fuels to do it. If we do nothing, 263,000 tons of nuclear waste will poison the world. Both of my books explain why transportation and manufacturing can’t run on electricity, so let’s hope new nuclear plants are not built to cope with the energy crisis. The waste from existing plants is bad enough.
Though there probably isn’t time to build more of them if world peak oil production was in 2018. Though there is a tremendous push to build them (just listen to podcast Power Hungry for example).
Below are several articles about disposal of nuclear waste. Also see these related posts on nuclear waste. Especially “A Nuclear spent fuel fire at Peach Bottom in Pennsylvania could force 18 million people to evacuate” and Nuclear waste will harm future generations for hundreds of thousands of years, a book review of “Too Hot to Touch: The Problem of High-Level Nuclear Waste”.
https://energyskeptic.com/2022/nuclear-waste-disposal-in-boreholes-drilled-into-earths-crust/#more-6243
Fast Eddy can bookmark that one..cheers!
2025 or bust!
I remember my visiting Vermont Yankee Rowe Power Plant as part of my college physics class in 1973. Everything was discussed how it worked up to, but not including the waste disposal plans. I was too dumb and enthralled with the promise of all that power to ask. Same for the entire class.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yankee_Rowe_Nuclear_Power_Station
Just finished removing a dead 3.6 V AA lithium battery (Xeno) with attached wires soldered onto the circuit board of my Gama-Scout Geiger counter. Life expectancy of battery =10 years.
https://www.batteryjunction.com/xl-060fax-w-leads.html
https://www.gamma-scout.com/en/basic/
Coverted to an external battery plug in power source with a replaceable AA battery holder. – in case not enough electricity to power a soldering iron in 10 years for the next scheuled replacement. LOL.
So will leave that in the safe for my daughter when she may need it in 10-20 years, along with guns and ammo, and a note saying good luck.
She’ll either be thinking her dad was a crazy old chicken-little lunatic or be thinking thank God he knew what could happen.
Hubbs,
Understand your desire to leave what your daughter may need. Not an anti gun person, but that is a lone individual against the world, I don’t think it works well.
What has withstood the test of time is a tribe, very resilient, seems impossible to kill; difficult at times, drove Moses nuts when he realized another trip up the mountain would be required to replace some broken tablets.
We need a set of rules which work most of the time for most of the people; we need to forgive others so we can forgive ourselves and move on(my guess only). You can’t undo the thoughtless things others do unto you; those incidents can change your life, but also can make you resilient.
The rules for a society have been around for a long time, too long to be accidental, perhaps discovered by trial and error. Were I to have young children, that is what I would attempt to give them for going forward.
Dennis L.
You might want to leave her a few cans of bear spray … it could come in useful if she survives the initial UEP in that period before the ponds kick in …
She won’t need it for the bears – the bears and anything else that moves will run deep into the bush when the rifles start firing out of season …
But she’ll need it… oh boy — will she need it.
Hubbs – surely you have access to Fent … perhaps leave a jug of that in the safe? Just in case … if FE is wrong then it can be tossed into a creek.
Nobody wants anybody to suffer needlessly…
Just a bit of mostly peaceful high-spirited holiday season fun as Kurdish boys go wild on the streets of Paris. Oh, and there’s something about cars parked on the sidewalk that really brings out the 2001 apeman in some people.
https://rumble.com/v228634-paris-being-culturally-enriched-by-kurds-this-christmas-eve.html
whoa, must be an outbreak of “white supremacy”. What other explanation could there be?
Nice video… that’s a glimpse into the future except that when BAU collapses the cops will walk away …. the mob will loot … then when there is no food left to loot and they start to get hungry they will go house to house… many of them will head for rural areas where there are farms… using their ‘intelligence’ to find the food…
When there is no food they will resort to ripping each other’s faces off and eating them — starting with the children.
Mr DNA is warming up. He will do … whatever it takes… to try to survive
Hey Fast, riddle me this. How do two bright people like Stephanie Seneff and James Kunstler miss the work done by Sasha Letypova @ https://www.bitchute.com/video/cXbiuOIWouBL/ and Katherine Watt @ Bailiwicknews.substack.com ???
Their audio interview of Dec. 9 on Kunstler’s podcast is peppered with statements like “it’s inconceivable to me” and “it’s really puzzling” and “how can they…”; punctuated by Stephanie’s giggles, likely cultivated during decades in the belly of the MIT beast. C’mon kids, it’s not that puzzling. LHO at this point is essentially grifting.
Thank you, hillcountry! It’s almost midnight here but I will watch this with some cocoa before turning in.
looking forward to your thoughts, Tim
It seems Sasha has done a lot of work reading documents and joining dots. If she’s correct, it’s not a vaccine; it’s a bioweapon. And it is being deployed in the US by the Department of Defense and presumably by the military the world over with the pharma industry merely doing “demonstration” production and distribution of the jabs as “performance art”.
This all makes a lot of sense to me, given that the military has been testing bioweapons in labs and on the unsuspecting populace for probably a century or more.
Also, if she’s right, the Americans, Europeans, Russians and Chinese militaries and ruling cliques are all in it together. They are not at war with each other; they are at war with their own populations.
Well, war may be putting it a bit over-dramatically. They are actively managing their own populations the way a good gardener manages the lawn and the shrubbery, by timely pruning and mowing. Can’t afford to let the foliage run riot or you end up with a jungle.
Here is Sasha’s Substack, which I have just subscribed to. I think she’s uncovered an important piece of the truth and I’ll be keenly following what she says.
https://sashalatypova.substack.com/?utm_source=cross-post&utm_campaign=926037&utm_medium=email
something is rotten in denmark
The title of this bitchute interview is “INTENT TO HARM – EVIDENCE OF THE CONSPIRACY TO COMMIT MASS MURDER BY THE US DOD, HHS, PHARMA CARTEL”.
Katherine Watt wrote this in April 2022, last updated December 2022.
American Domestic Bioterrorism Program
Building the case to prosecute members of Congress, presidents, HHS and DOD secretaries and federal judges for treason under 18 USC 2381.
OVERVIEW
I started looking closely at the legal architecture supporting the Covid national prison panopticon on Jan. 30, 2022, after hearing Attorney Todd Callender’s interview, which provided information about the American domestic legal framework; how it fit with the oddly-coordinated pandemic story told by governments worldwide; and how it relates to the World Health Organization International Health Regulations of 2005 at the center.
I wrote up the interview:
Legal Walls – Short Version
Legal Walls of the Covid-19 Kill Box; PDF
Prior to that day, I’d spent a lot of time, with increasing confusion and alarm and despair, trying to figure out why the U.S. Constitutional legal system hadn’t put a stop to the nonsense as its nonsensicality became obvious to so many people.
Why did it continue, with no end in sight, and not even a glimpse of a path to the end?
Since then, as I’ve dug into Callender’s analysis following the supporting paper trails, I’ve learned why, and how.
A whole lot of things that once were federal and state crimes and civil rights violations have been legalized by Congress through legislative, statutory revisions to the United States Code, signed by US Presidents, and implemented at the administrative, regulatory level by the Department of Health and Human Services and Department of Defense through the Code of Federal Regulations.
I’ve reported on those findings in small bits and pieces, connecting the laws to court cases, executive orders, guidance documents for industry and researchers, academic papers, intellectual property patents, regulatory amendments, psychological manipulation programs, geopolitical developments and other facts as they’ve floated across my field of view.
I think the critical decay began around 1983, when the ‘public health emergencies’ section was added to the 1944 Public Health Service Act, although the 1944 PHSA itself represented an additional militarization of human medicine in the United States.
Most of the worst laws have been passed since 2000 — just before 9/11 and the US Department of Defense false flag anthrax attacks.
They are listed below, with links to the full text of each law, and a short summary of what I understand about how each one fits into the overall scheme.
The basic goal of the architects, which has been achieved, was to set up legal conditions in which all governing power in the United States could be automatically transferred from the citizens and the three Constitutional branches into the two hands of the Health and Human Services Secretary, effective at the moment the HHS Secretary himself declared a public health emergency, legally transforming free citizens into enslaved subjects.
That happened on Jan. 31, 2020, in effect as of Jan. 27, 2020 through the present day.
In other words: Congress and US Presidents legalized and funded the overthrow of the U.S. Constitution, the U.S. government and the American people, through a massive domestic bioterrorism program relabeled as a public health program, conducted by the HHS Secretary and Secretary of Defense on behalf of the World Health Organization and its financial backers.
Hello,
I have been an assiduous reader of Gail and also of Ugo Bardi for several years. I would like to know Gail’s opinion on this study recently recommended by Ugo Bardi on his blog. Thank you very much.
https://www.mdpi.com/2071-1050/14/12/7098
Virginio
Bardi’s article has all the relevant information, informative and well presented.
the problem is, it needs to be assimilated by Joe Public.—his is the opinion that matters in all this.
And Joe Public is never going to get really into it.–too complex to be quickly grasped and understood.
The article is very misleading. It is good that Joe Public cannot understand it. It is ammunition of those pushing renewables will save us.
norm?
The protocols for managing post-viral pneumonia were changed in April 2020 to remove antibiotics.
This is what produced the spike in deaths, as much as anything. Old people with pneumonia had always been treated with antibiotics before.
The excuse given was to prevent antibiotic resistance.
The report says:
The removal of antibiotics from standard post-viral pneumonia was done in lockstep around the world. How could this have happened? By MAGIC: A consortium driven by the University of Liverpool and WHO.
https://metatron.substack.com/p/when-covid-conspiracies-become-facts
eddy
many many many years ago, one of my kids had a doll with a ring on a string on its back, when the string was pulled, the doll spoke.
yaa know what eddy?
no matter how many times you pulled the string–the doll never said anything different.
That doll provided one of life’s most important lessons.
Now you know why anyone who matters on OFW … refers to you as The NOF…
Answer the question norm … why did they stop the antibiotic protocols?
Unbelievable… this cannot be stooopidity … surely it’s something else we are looking at here…
As CTG suggests it’s a simulation … norm feels nothing when he’s ridiculed — he’s like a robot — it’s like asking a toaster to make ice cream… it does not compute…
hmmmm
now i figure that (whatever NOF is)means that 1 unclad emperor and no more than 1 or 2 other courtiers ‘matter’ on OFW.
Now that is a pretty wide ranging statement eddy. Did you read it back before you pressed ‘post’?
Or shall i pull your string and try to get a more expansive comment on the subject?
Or will my string pulling get the usual repetition?
Still–its good for everyone on OFW to know that they do not matter—only eddy matters. that is what you said—quite clearly. You have suggested it for years. Today you made your opinion quite clear.
but of course we knew that already didn’t we?
just as well those barstools are single seaters.
Ive tried to gently tell you eddy—BS merchants end up knee deep in the stuff.
I can see why they look forward to your visits down the medical centre….it must provide endless amusement afterwards eddy.
Xabier can fill you in in NOF.
The study is basically misleading. It is written to support the “renewables will save us” view. It compares things that are not really comparable. It assumes that intermittent electricity that is not available when you want it is comparable to dispatchable electricity, among other things. It assumes that ratios based on future “model electricity” are equivalent to historical “same calendar period” comparisons.
I have been deeply involved with this group for a long time. Charles Hall was the one who started it. David Murphy got his PhD under Hall. Ugo Bardi has been closely involved involved, with many publications for the Club of Rome. Even Dennis Meadows has given his endorsement of this EROEI stuff. (I am convinced that Donella Meadows and Jay Forrester were the real architects of the 1972 Limits to Growth study.) Marco Raugei is chief of the “renewables will save us” group. Michael Carbajales-Dale is (or was) the chief editor of the supposed academic journal for the EROEI group, and I was “an editor,” but I am fairly certain that it stopped publication for lack of articles.
I believe the confusion started because the 1972 Limits to Growth model makes a somewhat equivalent calculation. What it does is compare “resources needed for investment during a particular calendar year” to “total resources consumed during the same calendar year.” It turned out, from the model calculations I saw, that once the “resources needed for investment” exceeded 5% of total resources extracted, the system seemed to collapse. In some sense, this would be (vaguely equivalent to) an EROEI of 20:1. Any overall EROEI of a smaller number would collapse the system; any required investment of over 5% (say 6% or 7%) would collapse the system.
These investment ratios were for all kinds of resources combined. Thus, besides energy resources, they included extractions of minerals, such as copper and lithium. It would even include the extraction of sand used for fracking and the use of stone used for building homes. Battery making would be included in this, as would building of transmission lines and putting out fires.
The folks doing these EROEI calculations are convinced that “all energy is equivalent” and “all electricity is equivalent.”
The concept of EROEI is somewhat helpful for teaching beginning students about the concept of diminishing returns, for example as oil wells are built deeper.
Models tend to be wrong because the problem really occurs on a “calendar period” basis. We cannot get prices up high enough to extract the copper and lithium and oil we need to operate the system. The system has already reached collapse mode, as far as I can see.
I have been trying for years to explain to these folks how their calculations are misleading. Writing up an academic paper to say these things seemed like an exercise in frustration. Who would peer review it? Where would it be published? If they didn’t understand what I explained before, why would they understand it now?
The saying goes, “All models are wrong; some are helpful.” The EROEI model is not helpful for comparing different fuels. If I write the problem up on Our Finite World, I will make some enemies, but I doubt many people will understand what I am saying.
Thank you very much for explaining your history and experience in this matter. We are really lucky to experience your teachings and encourage you to continue to communicate your deep and reality based understandings. While this encouragement is partially based on selfish motives of the desire to continue experiencing your teachings I also have a idea that at some point your teachings have a significant role to play. That is something of course that is for you to decide. What your understandings mean how they have value what their effect will be and how to best express that effect in actions. As creatures of the divine we can only ask the divine that divinity is expressed through our existence. At some point it may be appropriate to abandon this blog decide what the foundation of your understanding is and express it without consideration for the one encountering it ability to understand. Or not. I admire your deep and unique understanding and loyalty to honesty in scientific exploration very much. Its tragic the age we live in discards your unique contribution. I ask you to consider creation of a comprehensive teaching if it suits you and it is in harmony with the divine. Regardless Gail you have left a mark for such a deep commitment to honesty that is a expression of your essence creates effect with all of its consequences by nature of its existence.Honesty is not rewarded now. Honestys value can not be stripped from it. Exploration of truth is sacred. Your essence may not seem have effect in the false world that values mistruth but value and effect of commitment to open and methodical exploration of truth always has effect by its nature for it is in its essence substantial and mistruth in its essence nothing.
As we witness paradigms that reward the cultivation of mistrust contribute strongly to the degradation of human character. If we truly value the idea of sustainability it must have its roots in reality and the acceptance of our relationship to the divine as expressed in the physical world. Our relationship to the divine by its nature can not be stolen. If there is one secret the false world wishes to keep it is that our relationship to the divine can not be stolen. If it could be stolen it would be by the false world. It most certainly can be corrupted and diminished and the false world exerts considerable power in that regard. The false world pretends is the holder of all power not just corruption. Its a ridiculous construct it is self evident that all significant power is in the relationship to the divine. This is demonstrated in self expression, not as a attempt to manipulate and influence, those are the characteristics of the attempts at survival by the false world organism but as a demonstration of truth that is self evident in displays of essence that value honesty.
if we are children of the divine, we have nothing to worry about.
looking around i’d say we have a lot to worry about.
The idea of writing a book about the situation goes through my mind from time to time. There are various companies that invite me to publish through them. In the last couple of years, I have been getting emails from Cambridge University Scholars suggesting that I write a book through them.
I notice their website says, “Please note that Cambridge Scholars Publishing Limited is not affiliated to or associated with Cambridge University Press or the University of Cambridge.” The title is just made to sound impressive (or perhaps confusing).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge_Scholars_Publishing
https://www.cambridgescholars.com/pages/proposal-submission
https://www.cambridgescholars.com/uploads/CSP%20Presentation%20v3.pdf
I doubt that academic institutions would consider books written through Cambridge Scholars to be very authoritative. Probably a (small) step above self-publishing. The sales price in pounds seems to be in the range of 70 to 90.
I haven’t investigated possibility of using colored images. I expect if those were used, the sales price of the book would be much higher than 70 to 90 pounds. Colored images usually make a book very expensive. Black and white substitutes take time to make. They often don’t convey an idea as well.
Earlier, Charles Hall wanted me to write a book or books as part of his series through Springer. But, to do that, I would need to endorse his wrong EROEI ideas. One email from Springer suggested I could quote the article Scientific American that talked about Hall’s EROEI ideas!
Apart from details of who would publish the book (and would they be willing to market the book), there are all kinds of other issues:
The book would need to have fairly narrow focus.
I would probably need to do whatever promotion was done myself.
I can express ideas to a whole lot more readers through my website.
publish a book that tells people everything is going to be ok, and you’ll sell 100x more
trust me on that one.
In any event a book costing in the region of £60/£80 would be for academics only—it’s the general public you have to reach, their limit is £10—-£20 at most.
Write 2 books simultaneously. One fiction to develop an engaging narrative the other hard science loaded with charts and graphs. At least 20 commenters here would be ecstatic to ghost- or co-write The Quantification of Finity.
I concur with your thoughts about Gail’s impact. I am fairly sure, for example, that everywhere in Eurasia governments look at this blog and take notes. Maybe not in Europe West of the Danube, though.
There was an alarming paper of the Austrian military to the government based on Gail’s ideas and even citing her. I don’t find it now…
There was never any public answer. Just ignored.
We have a similar report to the German government by the Bundeswehr, not mentioning Gail.
The answer: Don’t worry, we have a solution for this problem. No more details.
I’m quite sure they believe they do. The problem they are trying to solve is who to invite into the DUMBs and when to invite them.
hear hear
Gail, I, too, “admire your deep and unique understanding and loyalty to honesty” … and that “exploration of truth is sacred …”
And may I add humility.
In a world of spin and self interest, promotion and assertiveness it’s more than refreshing to encounter at depth your fundamental knoweldge and intellectual precepts.
FE posted below a quote that stuck in my mental craw “When there’s no such thing as truth, you can’t define reality”
my mindview is that meaninglessness of language is destroying reality and simulacra
roll on the miasma
Reading the full Samuel Pepys fifteen years ago the greatest impression it made on me was how the process of bringing the 17th century alive in my imagination was his unrelenting truth as to what he was seeing around him. It’s no great work of art but it’s one of the greatest of works. Written in cypher to hide its contents, and not fully revealed for more than a century and then only to the few. Over ten years 1660-70 he went blind writing it and from then on in his career as a public servant required readers and writers for his work, and so had to abandon it.
However, its quality of immediacy to my thinking is because of the universal recognition of honesty; a naked soul sharing its perceptions; fear, duty, constrains of reality (resources), personal responsibility, weakness for pomp and money and recognition
Hey Xab, you get into the Pepys Room from time to time?
The next question then is why Ugo would write such a thing. He is too smart for that. I admit to being conspiratorial but I see no other explanation.
Ugo really wants a “happily ever after” ending.
And I don’t think that he really understands what is wrong with EROEI theory. He admires Dennis Meadows and The Limits to Growth. I don’t think that Dennis Meadows understands what is wrong with EROEI theory either.
There are actually some parts of EROEI theory that are right, which makes explaining the situation accurately so difficult. Models can be helpful in some situations, but misleading in others.
Throw some petrol on the VAIDS haha
Hong Kong hospital patients left waiting 8 hours or more on Boxing Day, as health expert calls for city to stock up on Covid jabs ahead of border reopening
Ten of the city’s 18 accident and emergency departments have reported waiting times of eight hours or more as of Monday morning
Local virologist, meanwhile, calls for authorities to stock up on antiviral drugs, Covid-19 vaccines ahead of plans to fully reopen border with mainland China
https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/article/3204578/hong-kong-hospital-patients-left-waiting-8-hours-or-more-boxing-day-health-expert-calls-stock-covid?module=lead_hero_story&pgtype=homepage
https://img.i-scmp.com/cdn-cgi/image/fit=contain,width=1098,format=auto/sites/default/files/styles/1200×800/public/d8/images/canvas/2022/12/26/1cf1f0b2-d7cf-4406-a4a8-08be275b9e25_ad7e268c.jpg
More De Ja Vu… and the CovIDIOTS will fall for it all over again … it’s so easy to toy with the MORE-ONS
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/crematory-overrun-beijings-southeastern-district-burning-150-bodies-daily-reports
Crematory Overrun In Beijing’s Southeastern District, Burning 150 Bodies Daily: Reports
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/crematory-overrun-beijings-southeastern-district-burning-150-bodies-daily-reports
A re-run?
Remember when we were shown pictures of open air cremations in India and it was presented as being something unusual happening because of the terrible pandemic when in fact open air cremations are a completely normal event to see in India.
Been to Varanasi on the Ganges … the cremations are non-stop
They played the same game with the images of paupers’ graves in NYC…
According to the 2019 United Nations World Population Prospects report, approximately 27,765 people die every day in China. For a district in a major city 150 sounds routine or maybe even like a slow day.
We’ve been here before: next, ‘plumes of smoke visible from space’, etc. So 2020 my dears………
NASA satellites are detecting the clouds of sulfur compounds released by the burning bodies…..
Oh the horror
Could this be the source of the sulfur?
“A startup claims it has launched weather balloons that may have released reflective sulfur particles in the stratosphere, potentially crossing a controversial barrier in the field of solar geoengineering.”
https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/12/24/1066041/a-startup-says-its-begun-releasing-particles-into-the-atmosphere-in-an-effort-to-tweak-the-climate
And the MOREONS are now queuing at the Booster Shot popups hahaha
Rinse Repeat Rinse Repeat Rinse Repeat hahaha
No different from any other animal except for the ‘intelligence’ hahaha… intelligence!
Look at me – I’m driving a car — I’m so intelligent!
I’m not impressed
See how easy it is to frighten the stooopid beasts?
Booster Time https://www.tiktok.com/@tiktokrachelreenstra/video/7052092917552516398?is_from_webapp=v1&item_id=7052092917552516398
Just the facts please — keith:
https://metatron.substack.com/p/when-covid-conspiracies-become-facts
The thing that is critical in this post is the following:
This is what produced the spike in deaths, as much as anything. Old people with pneumonia had always been treated with antibiotics before.
The excuse given was to prevent antibiotic resistance.
The report says:
https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd4d22f98-ee05-4e3f-a86c-e59918076c51_1180x946.png
Dob in a Covid Denier. That’s where Australia is at now.
https://xyz.net.au/2022/12/dob-in-a-covid-denier-video-goes-viral/
https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/61085
https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/61099
Hey norm – how does one get this in the UK?
Meanwhile in Australia a new poison nasal “vaccine” has been developed.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/dec/23/nsw-covid-wave-peaks-days-before-christmas-as-scientists-develop-new-nasal-vaccine
The first link is extremely worrying.
Australia (with New Zealand and Canada) seems to be one of the most scary Countries about Covid and mass vaccination (in the western world).
China does it in another way, they are more rude.
Western countries dress the salad with a subtle manipulative sauce.
While China breaks down the problems with a sledgehammer.
The manipulative sauce is perhaps more frightening to me and it reminds me a situation similar to the famous UK tv series ‘The Prisoner’ (1968).
A quote from the first link (from Australia):
All they have to do is check Substack and Telegram to identify the potential terrorists… asking people to dob in their neighbours is just theatre
They also are aware of who has not injected the rat juice
what do you do when people like this arrive at the farm gate – demanding food?
https://t.me/TommyRobinsonNews/43458
https://t.me/VigilantFox/7895
https://t.me/leaklive/10966
https://t.me/leaklive/10977
https://t.me/leaklive/10995
That is what the guns are for.
And they won’t have guns? How many ex military do you reckon will be on the loose in the USA when BAU goes down… good luck with that…
And they won’t work out if you shoot some of them to hide and do their dirty deeds at night?
Dunce Kruger meets Little House Prairie Syndrome
VAERS Shows a 4070% Increase in Miscarriages and Stillbirths Since mRNA Roll-out
“This is a wholesale attack on women specifically,” lamented Dr. Naomi Wolf.
“Dr. Robert Chandler confirmed that 72% of the adverse events in the Pfizer documents are women. And of those, in Pfizer’s own words, 16% are reproductive disorders.”
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/12/vaers-showing-4070-increase-miscarriages-stillbirths-since-mrna-roll/
It’s ok – the feral dogs are feeding on the carcasses.
But total US births are not down by much. The catch is that the number of miscarriages and stillbirths reported to VAERS before Covid was essentially zero. Any increase at all is a huge percentage increase.
Keep in mind many countries have now stopped reporting key data including excess deaths… and the DOD changed their data when faced with epic increases in disease post vax…
And BTW — the revised DOD numbers are way out of line compared to disease in the general population i.e. the military is far unhealthier than the general population.
Dr Theresa Long was discussing that anomaly during a presentation I watched the other day.
I don’t think I need to explain how that is completely absurd.
Well … except for norm and mike…. guys – the people in the military tend to be fitter than the general population — they do not flop on the sofa and stuff garbage down their maws… they tend to be much more active… cuz you know – when you need to fight a war — and the US fights a lot of wars — you don’t want people on mobility scooters as your soldiers…. You also do not have geriatrics in the military.
Therefore one would assume that the members of the military are some of the most healthy people in your society … the rate of cancer, stroke, heart disease, diabetes etc… would be expected to be a fraction of what you see in the general population of your country.
Yet the rate of these and other diseases in the US military — is many times that of the general population….
Oh and one other thing to consider — if the rates of the diseases are far higher in the military — and we know that the general population is far less healthy + highly vaxxed and boosted….
What are the REAL rates of disease caused by the vax in the general population????
Surely they MUST be worse than what the military is experiencing.
Trust nothing – we are fed a pack of lies.
We are in ‘whatever it takes’ mode…. Rule of Law is out the window…. when you are being exterminated you have no rights … failure is not an option … failure = ROF…
Nobody wants ROF — you want the Bossche Mutation + Global Holodomor with a side of Super Fent…
The mantra of the PR Team is — Anything but ROF — Avoid ROF… this is what they say to each other when they approve the Rat Juice for Babies….
They are not heartless monsters — they feel badly murdering babies… but they justify because ROF opens the Gates of Hell … it really does……
8B predators on the streets in the dark – cold and hungry … no police no military …
Trust me – we will NOT get along – we will NOT share … we will rip each other to pieces and eat the body parts…. there has been nothing even remotely close to this situation in all of history… NOTHING.
And then there are the 4000 spent fuel ponds. Nobody survives. Get over the Little House on the Prairie Syndrome – that is mental illness.
The PR Team knows what happens if they fail.. They will lie and cheat and murder.. they will literally burn babies on a pyre if necessary…
Whatever it takes to avoid ROF. Burning babies is better than ROF.
They are doing the right thing. The compassionate thing.
They are exterminating us
nothing even remotely close to this situation in all of history…
Really? How’s about this little situation arising upon your fair isles of adoption
Some time about 1000AD the polynesians roaming the waters of the south Pacific Ocean settled many islands including that little 150k sqkm island you now occupy. Their primary food source was moa, a large ostrich like bird found in abundance. They settled along the coasts and travelled far inland for greenstone and moa hunting in season, burning almost all of the native forest to the east of the alps (the rain shadow) to encourage open grasslands for facilitating hunting. Population increased over several centuries, moa declined until they became extinct. Then what? Cannibalism and social breakdown
By the time the first European navigators and whalers reached the island the very scrawny remnants of humankind they found delighted in their potatoes which grew so much more readily than their yams and their society somewhat stabilized.
History turned again for them with the arrival of Christians, who in the 1840s endearingly gave one of the north island tribes guns for food at a time when their settlement was in privation. These priviledged natives then proceeded to travel all the way down the two islands conquering all the other tribes initiating a spectacle now known as the Maori Wars. They must have been imperialists in a former life. The tribal chiefs called upon Queen Victoria for succor, so having her heavy responsibility to protect them, a treaty was signed between the chiefs and her higest local representatives. The British fought to protect their surveyors and missionaries who between them settled a peace and carved up the entire country into land titles.
and they all lived happily ever after
More like history repeats itself than ” they all lived happily ever after.”
Remind me of the period when there were 8B humans who were fed contingent on cheap oil.
Point me to Global Holodomor + Spent Fuel Ponds
Top Thai Neurologist and WHO Expert Panel Member Warns of COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine Link to Fatal Heart Problems
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/12/top-thai-neurologist-expert-panel-member-warns-covid-19-mrna-vaccine-link-fatal-heart-problems/
How’s the princess doing hahaha
This is the academic paper that is linked. It is by a group of German authors.
Autopsy-based histopathological characterization of myocarditis after anti-SARS-CoV-2-vaccination
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00392-022-02129-5?fbclid=IwAR0mGtptO0dGQ95jhLyCYG9Q6odaGEKs3AYrCeA7Y99N0_Xjdrf1kQABKwU#Sec3
If you can find it referenced on the BBCCNN website norm might read it and consider stopping boosting …
Rintrah Radagast posted a very important article yesterday. It shows us a potential explanation of why excess mortality is related to COVID boosters, why the association of Covid vaccines with mortality strengthens as time goes on instead of declining, and why boosted people take the longest to clear Covid-19.
Check Rintrah’s article out. It is brilliant and very disturbing.
https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/booster-caused-immune-tolerance-explains
https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9f3fa345-fb08-4354-ada7-e598874dc1d8_719x370.jpeg
Rintrah’s article is very good. I quoted some of it in another comment.
https://ourfiniteworld.com/2022/12/16/the-economy-is-moving-from-a-tailwind-pushing-it-along-to-a-headwind-holding-it-back/comment-page-7/#comment-401482
Another unexpected death last week was that of British DJ/singer Maxi Jazz (65), who died “peacefully in his sleep.” No cause of death has been released.
But he did have a deep vein thrombosis problem in 2019.
And, oh look!……
https://www.instagram.com/p/CLj5u12D-kn/?igshid=wl0e3my1k2sr
“C’mon people, we got to get over this shit! Go get your jab!!”
Also last week: Terry Hall (The Specials), Martin Duffy (Primal Scream) and Iain Templeton (The Las)…and about a month ago: Keith Levene (PIL)….All in their 50s/60s
“Died Suddenly”
ABC News was in mourning this holiday after Dax Tejera, the executive producer of This Week With George Stephanopoulos, died suddenly at the age of 37. The network said the father of two young girls had a heart attack.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/dax-tejera-george-stephanopoulos-producer-at-this-week-dead-at-37
I guess it’s a bit of a grim christmas in that house this year!!!
He looked very healthy … for a guy who died of a heart attack hehe
https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/b454c7a/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https:%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F19%2Fab%2Ffb22c54a4e1895a200074ea9c380%2Fdax-tejera.jpg
norm?
Greta is looking great. She is sparkling with youthful vivacity. Finally old enough to go to college, she’s getting quite good at selling the climate crisis these days — as long as she doesn’t have to deal with any hardball questions or talk to anyone smart who doesn’t share her opinions. Here she is being interviewed by a very supportive and sympathetic Jackie Long for Channel 4 News in the UK last October.
What is your own thinking on climate and energy these days, folks? Are we going to be boiled, baked, fried, sautéed, frozen, or a combination of the above?
I don’t think there is a climate crisis. I think it’s been hyped in order to provide a pretext for the agenda that the governors are trying to persuade us to accept. The energy crisis is very very real though, as a lot of people around the world have found out this year.
I’m not totally at odds with Greta, and when I was her age, I held basically precisely the same viewpoint as she does. I wonder if, when she gets to be my age, she will ever become as jaded and cynical a denialista as I am?
Greta talks about being an “activist”, but to my ears she pronounces that word to sound like “actress”. After all, both professions are centered on “acting”. So I am not sure about how sincere or how much of a true believer she is. Probably 90%. But I expect she is also well aware that she’s playing a role and delivering a message on behalf of her sponsors.
https://www.channel4.com/news/greta-thunberg-interview-world-on-climate-precipice-but-activism-offers-hope
Greta has found a niche she fits into. She has an obsession governments and news media are trying to encourage. Her parents seems to be rich enough to lay out funds, necessary, to encourage this. The niche still seems to work for her, at least somewhat.
My dream is Geeta getting whacked by a booster shot… now that would make my year
She has promoted the bioweapon injections for everyone, so that would only be poetic justice. However, they wouldn’t give such a useful PR tool as her a real hot lot clot shot, surely?
You’ll just have to be content with the steady trickle of celebs and athletes dropping like flies on TV that we’ve come to expect over the past year. I predict that is going to continue for years to come.
It is interesting that Norman mocks Dr. Sheryl Tenpenny as some kind of charlatan, when she predicted almost two years ago that people would be keeling over, getting sick and dying from the effects of the jabs beginning in three to six months and then increasing over time, and this is exactly what we have been seeing.
She turns out to have been basically correct at a time when few other people had any idea that the jabs were anything other than safe and effective, and still Norman is as clueless as a man trying to do a crossword puzzle with …. not a single clue!!!
This is Sheryl from February 2021, and well worth an hour of anybody’s time. The more we find out, the less of a crank and a quack she sounds.
https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/dr-sherri-tenpenny-explains-how-the-depopulation-covid-vaccines-will-start-working-in-3-6-months/
Pfizer Has Received $4.7 Billion in Fines for 80 Different Violations Over the Past 20 Years Including $1 billion for “false claims”
https://anti-empire.com/pfizer-has-received-4-7-billion-in-fines-for-80-different-violations-over-the-past-20-years/
Check out the biceps on Hoolio
https://i.postimg.cc/mksSNQf0/Hoolio-2.png
What is your own thinking on climate and energy these days, folks? Are we going to be boiled, baked, fried, sautéed, frozen, or a combination of the above?
The climate crisis is irrelevant. Greta Thunberg is irrelevant. Nobody in power actually makes decisions based on what she says and their decisions aren’t important anyway.
Collapse will be well underway in Europe by 2025 or sooner.
USA State, we are coming for _you_.
Ukrainian condition still looks very bad, but it cannot concede.
Pentagon needs to make its mind up whether it is White Supremacist NAZI front or a Black Lives Matter front.
They cannot really have it both ways? No one is really _that_ thick?
If I weren’t a huge hamster fan, I would find this hilarious:
Come on, everyone.
We are living iiiiiiiiiiiiiiin a woooooorld of confusion.
No love is the wrong solution.
but how does it sound with your pricey headphones?
I get it, some people think that humans are just ‘pawns’ to be moved about on the board. Maybe one day they will find out that is not really the case. We might surprise you, yet.
Liberty city, arise!
hahaha — why aren’t parents with vax damaged kids ‘getting even’ — Dave (vaxxed) say ‘if I get stage 4 cancer I’m gonna get even’
Love it! Best interview ever
https://kunstler.com/podcast/kunstlercast-361-yakking-with-david-collum-as-the-world-turns-and-burns/
This is outstanding – particularly his take on Tucker Carlson… Fast Eddy has peer…
https://kunstler.com/podcast/kunstlercast-361-yakking-with-david-collum-as-the-world-turns-and-burns/
The Elders https://kunstler.com/podcast/kunstlercast-361-yakking-with-david-collum-as-the-world-turns-and-burns/
Electric Vehicles. As the car makers of the world chase Tesla into the future of gas-free vehicles, one can’t help but wonder whether the grid will be ready, the bugs worked out, and the supplies for battery production located. I am told EVs are a hoot to drive. Toyota seems to stand alone in putting the brakes on this,12,13 suggesting that the world is not ready yet:
Here is a nice analysis of the cost and energy demands of electric cars—a bean count of the hydrocarbons needed to make the cars and batteries.14 The Hofferian green fanatics tend to overlook the energetic costs of hauling 500,000 pounds of ore from mile-deep open-pit mines in a faraway land to make one EV while marveling at the absence of a tailpipe.
The 2023 Chevy Bolt EV retails at $26,595. After an estimated 70,000 miles, the replacement battery is projected to cost $29,842 based on today’s price.15 At least you can charge it on your VISA card.
Imagine the chaos of a million electric cars powering down while fleeing a hurricane zone. Once you clean up the carcasses, there remains cars to charge or tow rather than just pouring a can of gas in the tank. (Actually, my mechanic told me submersion of a car—a computer with wheels—after my wife drove one into a swamp.)
Senators are pushing a bill to electrify the military vehicle fleet and retrofit all submarines with screen doors.16
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/dave-collums-2022-year-review-part-1-all-roads-lead-ukraine
The five stages of peak energy grief.. denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance. Most people are still in denial and anger such as the typical Zerohedge commenter. Some people have moved onto bargaining by getting an EV and a solar panel. Then there’s a smaller group of depressed doomers and collapseatarians doom scrolling. Then we have Fast Eddy who doesn’t just accept PO and the end of BAU he cheers it on with gusto.
The end of humans … is the best thing since sliced bread. Vile, smug creatures poisoning the world with their ‘intelligence’
Ooh look at how ‘intelligent’ we are – we build cars and satellites and we grow enough food for 8B using finite resources…
I see no intelligence. I see intelligence in a flock of birds knowing how to get back to their feeding grounds thousands of miles away — every season change
https://assets.zerohedge.com/s3fs-public/styles/inline_image_mobile/public/inline-images/2022-12-24_09-42-40.jpg
https://assets.zerohedge.com/s3fs-public/styles/inline_image_mobile/public/inline-images/2022-12-24_09-42-17.jpg
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/dave-collums-2022-year-review-part-1-all-roads-lead-ukraine
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The roads in the shires were nearly empty today – just how we like it for a drive. We passed more birds flying/ scurrying across the roads than other cars. Nature was reasserting itself within hours. We had to dodge some of the birds – grouse that escaped the shotguns and now walk around the countryside. We had a lovely Christmas dinner btw., folk mellowing with age. Some things are better aged. All cars need to clear off – so that we can have the roads to ourselves – /s.
Before moving into the specific issues I should mention fact-checkers. They started with a husband and wife team at Snopes that, over time, was putting out more content than theoretically possible for a twosome. They have proliferated like Tribbles across the internet and have mutated into propaganda machines. Fact-checkers get things right only when it is politically expedient. If you take what they say at face value, you are an idiot, and that’s a fact.49 My immutable law of fact-checking is that the more you find, the more likely the so-called conspiracy theory being debunked is correct. My allusions to fact-checkers throughout the document are, without exception, mentioned as a vote of confidence that the idea being checked is correct.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/dave-collums-2022-year-review-part-1-all-roads-lead-ukraine
“Under the weight of political pressure to shut down online discourse, “fact-checking” is becoming a major Silicon Valley funded institution unto itself. Increasingly, fact-checking constitutes tech companies and their subsidiaries casting editorial judgements on information presented into the public domain; judgements which represent a sanctioned version of the truth. Often, it is also coupled with attempts to suppress the spread of the information in question as well as openly discredit it.”
https://unherd.com/thepost/bmj-fights-back-against-facebook-fact-checkers/
The True Believer is a classic study on the rise and spread of mass movements along with a psychological profile of the fanatics who drive these violent political and social upheavals. Although the political landscape of 1951 is far different from that of the present era, Eric Hoffer’s book has nevertheless provided us with remarkable descriptions that fit the kinds of people who join various extremist mass movements today. It is a terrifying portrait of the mind of the fanatic.
All it takes to lure people into mass movements is something to attract those with a sense of personal failure. These misfits and outcasts are offered the opportunity of joining a cause that allows them to forget their own perceived defects. By joining a righteous cause, the individual believes he has transcended his inferior self. He disappears into “the movement” and takes on a new identity. By destroying the past and present, the fanatic seeks to build a future utopia that will make his former identity seem trivial. It is a frightening prospect, and potential followers are always at hand.
https://www.audible.com/pd/The-True-Believer-Audiobook/1603691790
I am confounded that I—one of the <2% of Cornell’s faculty who are openly right of center—am trying to warn the rest of my colleagues that they are being duped by the evil corporations in collusion with Big Government—the definition of fascism. Too much acid in middle school for this boy I guess. Despite my growing doubts that I may never penetrate the layers of the onion where truth resides, my resolve that has strengthened over the last couple of years is that when something of importance seems off or confusing, your default position should be that somebody in a position of power is conspiring.
Why? Because that is what people in power do. It is in their DNA. They wake up every morning pondering how many baby harp seals they can bludgeon that day. Give me any topic—a keyword even—and I can serve up an alternative model that will not be told on CNN. My training as a parent tells me those demons are scheming. So, indeed, I am a conspiracy theorist. If you are not one, ignorance is bliss. Hang on to those lovely thoughts. Those who always default to incompetence as the explanation appear not to be under the spell of the little green gremlins who crawl out of my cell phone and molest me while I sleep.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/dave-collums-2022-year-review-part-1-all-roads-lead-ukraine
When there’s no such thing as truth, you can’t define reality. When you can’t define reality, the only thing that matters is power.
~ Maajid Nawaz, British activist and radio host
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/dave-collums-2022-year-review-part-1-all-roads-lead-ukraine
China stops declaring daily Covid cases as wave strains hospitals, funeral services
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3204531/china-stops-declaring-daily-covid-cases-wave-strains-hospitals-funeral-services?module=more_top_stories_int&pgtype=homepage
Fake
The Ocean is the the biggest solution in the World
Sail!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tgIqecROs5M
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T8ZGxfr18kE
“Blame it on my ABC.”
Wow, the older I get, the more I realise just how traumatic schooling was from the age of 4, and just how spiteful those ‘teachers’ were, especially as the only kid in the school not from an unambiguously ‘Christian’ background. I managed to blank most of it out, but it all gets remembered in the end. Whatever organised religion is about, it certainly is not about ‘God’ or ‘love’; it is just another excuse for bigotry and spite, like people even need one. Some peoples just do not produce adults who should be allowed anywhere near kids? Of course everything would be better if everyone were like me – /s.
Whatever music you want, you can get it for free here. Bourgeois property relations do not apply. Chrome will translate it.
https://rutracker.org/
Mirror,
A guess only: Communities and humans are not lone animals, we work in groups and groups need a commonality to bridge the inevitable pain of life.
Too much individuality seems to lead to narcissism and dysfunctional groups.
My meme is we are all part of the fabric of the universe, we can make choices not to be part of a group but mostly that choice leads to more pain than otherwise. You seem to have a considerable anger; if you had not been afforded an education with the group, could you have done it alone? Who would you be, what would you be? How would you both get the group to see it your way and do it for you rather than the group?
Dennis L.
It is more sadness and trauma than anger.
(‘Anger’ is supposedly a ‘sin’ and an accusation, a way to ‘discredit’ other people – which is all that ‘morality’ tends to be – just another way to ‘accuse’ and to attack other people. We have all seen that one untold times?)
Sorry if I have natural emotions?
Your ‘group’ does not have to be mine? What does a ‘group’ even mean to you but a way to exclude and to attack other people? You are free to choose that course, but my advice would be that if your ancestors wanted to pursue that course then they should never have migrated to USA in the first place. B/c you have no ‘people’ there. I do not know whether you have worked that one out yet.
B/c you are no longer a part of ‘your people’, which is a predicament that many people find themselves in these days, and not just other people.
It is what it is, and we can all be maximum self-righteousness, but it does not really change anything?
If you think that you are any more ‘located’ than I am then you probably just do not appreciate what is going on in the bourgeois period in which we all are adrift. You are out there in the middle of nowhere in USA? I am a lot closer to ‘home’ than you are?
I am exactly where I am ‘supposed’ to be? I embrace the entirety of my life. And no, I have no ‘gratitude’ whatsoever like I going to ‘go in’ for that moralistic construction any time soon. My emotions are a lot more complicated than that. Seriously, but if you want to start lecturing me Don about the ‘good’ and the ‘true’, then I might have to point out some ‘home truths’ to you.
Can I think of a sing-song to accompany this? B/c my music is always really ‘deep’.
Mirror,
My question is can you or yours make a group that will do better for “you” than what exists? If it cannot then what are your options? Also, with schooling, it has to work now for each student, not tomorrow.
Perfection is the enemy of good enough and sometimes being grateful for what we have helps us deal with the bad cards life dealt us.
No we cannot all be maximum self righteousness, it seems from years of experience(your mileage may vary) you take what you get and run with it. My saying is, “If it works it is right, if it doesn’t it is wrong.” Sort of simple minded I guess.
All the best,
Dennis L.
Don, I am not sure that you really got my drift. Admittedly Christmas day was a gin day lol, and personally I probably would not waste too much time on anything that I might say in that context lol.
I was talking more about the spiteful adults that I remember from childhood than about schooling per se or about any ‘group’ that is liable to endure as dominant beyond another generation. Sober or less so, I am pretty sure that I am able to generate my own feelings.
Those particular adults were in no way responsible for the existence of the modern state school system anyway, they were just playing a trade. Really it was just an exploration of the ‘Sail’ video, what it is about and what I can remember that might relate to what is alluded to in the song. Thanks, though.
Merry Christmas everyone.