Models Hide the Shortcomings of Wind and Solar

A major reason for the growth in the use of renewable energy is the fact that if a person looks at them narrowly enough–such as by using a model–wind and solar look to be useful. They don’t burn fossil fuels, so it appears that they might be helpful to the environment.

As I analyze the situation, I have reached the conclusion that energy modeling misses important points. I believe that profitability signals are much more important. In this post, I discuss some associated issues.

Overview of this Post

In Sections [1] through [4], I look at some issues that energy modelers in general, including economists, tend to miss when evaluating both fossil fuel energy and renewables, including wind and solar. The major issue in these sections is the connection between high energy prices and the need to increase government debt. To prevent the continued upward spiral of government debt, any replacement for fossil fuels must also be very inexpensive–perhaps as inexpensive as oil was prior to 1970. In fact, the real limit to fossil fuel extraction and to the building of new wind turbines and solar panels may be government debt that becomes unmanageable in an inflationary period.

In Section [5], I try to explain one reason why published Energy Return on Energy Investment (EROEI) indications give an overly favorable impression of the value of adding a huge amount of renewable energy to the electric grid. The basic issue is that the calculations were not set up for this purpose. These models were set up to evaluate the efficiency of generating a small amount of wind or solar energy, without consideration of broader issues. If these broader issues were included, EROEI indications would be much lower (less favorable).

One of the broader issues omitted is the fact that the electrical output of wind turbines and solar panels does not match up well with the timing needs of society, leading to the need for a great deal of energy storage. Another omitted issue is the huge quantity of energy products and other materials required to make a transition to a mostly electrical economy. It is easy to see that both omitted issues would add a huge amount of energy costs and other costs, if a major transition is made. Furthermore, wind and solar have gotten along so far using hidden subsidies from the fossil fuel energy system, including the subsidy of being allowed to go first on the electricity grid. EROEI calculations cannot evaluate the amount of this hidden subsidy.

In Section [6], I point out the true indicator of the feasibility of renewables. If electricity generation using wind and solar energy are truly helpful to the economy, they will generate a great deal of taxable income. They will not require the subsidy of going first, or any other subsidy. This does not describe today’s wind or solar.

In Section [7] and [8], I explain some of the reasons why EROEI calculations for wind and solar tend to be misleadingly favorable, even apart from broader issues.

Economic Issues that Energy Modelers Tend to Miss

[1] The economy is very short of oil that is inexpensive-to-extract. The economy seems to require a great deal more government debt when energy prices are high. Models for renewable energy production need to consider this issue, even if any substitution for oil is very indirect.

I think of the problem of rising energy prices for an economy as being like a citizen faced with an increase in food costs. The citizen will attempt to balance his budget by adding more debt, at least until his credit cards get maxed out. This is why we should expect to see an increase in government debt when oil prices are high; oil and other fossil fuels are as essential to the economy as food is to humans.

Figure 1. Year by year comparison of US government receipts with US government expenditures, based on data of the US Bureau of Economic Analysis, together with boxes showing when oil prices were in the range of about $20 per barrel or less, after adjusting for inflation. Series shown is from 1929 to 2022.

Figure 1 shows that most US government funding shortfalls occurred when oil prices were above $20 per barrel, in inflation-adjusted prices. For the 15-year period 2008 through 2022, US government expenditures were 26% higher than its receipts.

Figure 2 shows a reference chart of average annual oil prices, adjusted for inflation.

Figure 2. Average annual inflation-adjusted Brent oil prices based on data from BP’s 2022 Statistical Review of World Energy.

The reason why oil prices tend to be high now is because the inexpensive-to-extract oil has mostly been extracted. What is left is oil that is expensive to extract. The low prices in the years surrounding 1998 reflected a supply-demand mismatch after the Asian Economic Crisis of 1997. The crisis held down demand at the same time as production was ramping up in Iraq, Venezuela, Canada, and Mexico.

[2] Economists tend to assume that shortages of oil will lead to much higher fossil fuel prices, thereby making renewables inexpensive in comparison. One reason this doesn’t happen is related to the buildup of debt, noted in Figure 1, when oil prices are high.

Section [1] shows that high oil prices seem to be associated with government deficits. A high-priced substitute for oil would almost certainly have a similar problem. This governmental debt tends to build up, and at some point becomes almost unmanageable.

A major problem occurs when there is a round of inflation. Central banks find a need to increase interest rates, partly to keep lenders interested in lending in an inflationary economy and partly to try to slow the inflation rate. In fact, the US is currently being tested by such a debt buildup and increase in interest rates, beginning about January 2022 (Figure 3).

Figure 3. Chart by the Federal Reserve of St. Louis showing US 30-year mortgage rates, interest rates of 10-year Treasuries, and interest rates of 3-month Treasury Bills from 1935 through May 2023.

Higher interest rates tend to have the effect of slowing the economy. In part, the economy slows because the cost of borrowing money rises. As a result, businesses are less likely to expand, and would-be auto owners are likely to put off new purchases because of the higher monthly payments. Commercial real estate can also be adversely affected by rising interest rates if owners of buildings find it impossible to raise rents fast enough to keep up with higher interest rates on mortgages and higher costs of other kinds.

[3] It is uncertain in exactly which ways the economy might contract, in response to higher interest rates. Some ways the economy could contract would bring an early end to both the extraction of fossil fuels and the manufacturing of renewables. This is not reflected in models.

If the economy contracts, one possible result is a recession with lower oil prices. This clearly doesn’t fix the problem of the cost of wind and solar electricity being unacceptably high, especially when the cost of all the batteries and additional transmission lines is included. In some sense, the price needs to be equivalent to a $20 per barrel oil price, or lower, to stop the huge upward debt spiral.

Another possibility, rather than the US economy as a whole contracting, is that the US government will disproportionately contract; perhaps it will send many programs back to the states. In such a scenario, there is likely to be less, rather than more, funding for renewables. I understand that Republicans in Texas are already unhappy with the high level of wind and solar generation being used there.

A third possibility is hyperinflation, as the government tries to add more money to keep the overall system, especially banks and pension plans, from failing. Even with hyperinflation, there is no particular benefit to renewables.

A fourth possibility is disruption of trade relationships between the US and other countries. This could even be related to a new world war. Renewables depend upon worldwide supply lines, just as today’s fossil fuels do. Building and maintaining the electrical grid also requires worldwide supply lines. As these supply lines break, all parts of the system will be difficult to maintain; replacement infrastructure after storms will become problematic. Renewables may not last any longer than fossil fuels.

[4] Economists tend to miss the fact that oil prices, and energy prices in general, need to be both high enough for the producer to make a profit and low enough for consumers to afford finished goods made with the energy products. This two-way tug-of-war tends to keep oil prices lower than most economists would expect, and indirectly caps the total amount of oil that can be extracted.

Figure [2] shows that, on an annual average basis, inflation-adjusted Brent oil prices have only exceeded $120 per barrel during the years 2011, 2012 and 2013. On an annual basis, oil prices have not exceeded that level since then. For a while, forecasts of oil prices as high as $300 per barrel in 2014 US dollars were being shown as an outside possibility (Figure 4).

Figure 4. IEA’s Figure 1.4 from its World Energy Outlook 2015, showing how much oil can be produced at various price levels.

With close to another decade of experience, it has become clear that high oil prices don’t “stick” very well. The economy then slides into recession, or some other adverse event takes place, bringing oil prices back down again. The relatively low maximum to fossil fuel prices tends to lead to a much earlier end to fossil fuel extraction than most analyses of available resource amounts would suggest.

OPEC+ tends to reduce supply because they find prices too low. US drillers of oil from shale formations (tight oil in Figure 4) have been reducing the number of drilling rigs because oil prices are not high enough to justify more investment. Politicians know that voters dislike inflation, so they take actions to hold down fossil fuel prices. All these approaches tend to keep oil prices low, and indirectly put a cap on output.

Why Indications from EROEI Analyses Don’t Work for Electrification of the Economy

[5] Energy Return on Energy Invested (EROEI) analyses were not designed to analyze the situation of a massive scaling up of wind and solar, as some people are now considering. If utilized for this purpose, they provide a far too optimistic an outlook for renewables.

The EROEI calculation compares the energy output of a system to the energy input of the system. A high ratio is good; a low ratio tends to be a problem. As I noted in the introduction, published EROEIs of wind and solar are prepared as if they are to be only a very small part of electricity generation. It is assumed that other types of generation can essentially provide free balancing services for wind and solar, even though doing so will adversely affect their own profitability.

A recent review paper by Murphy et al. seems to indicate that wind and solar have favorable EROEIs compared to those of coal and natural gas, at point of use. I don’t think that these favorable EROEIs really mean very much when it comes to the feasibility of scaling up renewables, for several reasons:

[a] The pricing scheme generally used for wind and solar electricity tends to drive out other forms of electrical generation. In most places where wind and solar are utilized, the output of wind and solar is given priority on the grid, distorting the wholesale prices paid to other providers. When high amounts of wind or solar are available, wind and solar generation are paid the normal wholesale electricity price for electricity, while other electricity providers are given very low or negative wholesale prices. These low prices force other providers to reduce production, making it difficult for them to earn an adequate return on their investments.

This approach is unfair to other electricity providers. It is especially unfair to nuclear because most of its costs are fixed. Furthermore, most plants cannot easily ramp electricity production up and down. A recently opened nuclear plant in Finland (which was 14 years behind plan in opening) is already experiencing problems with negative wholesale electricity rates, and because of this, is reducing its electricity production.

Historical data shows that the combined contribution of wind, solar, and nuclear doesn’t necessarily increase the way that a person might expect if wind and solar are truly adding to electricity production. In Europe, especially, the availability of wind and solar seems to be being used as an excuse to close nuclear power plants. With the pricing scheme utilized, plants generating nuclear energy tend to lose money, encouraging the owners of plants to close them.

Figure 5. Combined wind, solar and nuclear generation, as a percentage of total energy consumption, based on data from BP’s 2022 Statistical Review of World Energy. The IEA and BP differ on the approach to counting the benefit of wind and solar; this figure uses the IEA approach. The denominator includes all energy, not just electricity.

The US has been providing subsidies to its nuclear plants to prevent their closing. When one form of electricity gets a subsidy, even the subsidy of going first, other forms of electricity seem to need a subsidy to compete.

[b] Small share of energy supply. Based on Figure 5, the total of wind, solar, and nuclear electricity only provides about 6.1% of the world’s total energy supply. An IEA graph of world energy consumption (Figure 6) doesn’t even show wind and solar electricity separately. Instead, they are part of the thin orange “Other” line at the top of the chart; nuclear is the dark green line above Natural Gas.

Figure 6. Chart prepared by the International Energy Association showing energy consumption by fuel through 2019. Chart is available through a Creative Commons license.

Given the tiny share of wind and solar today, ramping them up, or those fuels plus a few others, to replace all other energy supplies seems like it would be an amazingly large stretch. If the economy is, in fact, much like a human in that it cannot substantially reduce energy consumption without collapsing, drastically reducing the quantity of energy consumed by the world economy is not an option if we expect to have an economy remotely like today’s economy.

[c] Farming today requires the use of oil. Transforming farming to an electrical operation would be a huge undertaking. Today’s farm machinery is mostly powered by diesel. Food is transported to market in oil-powered trucks, boats, and airplanes. Herbicides and pesticides used in farming are oil-based products. There is no easy way of converting the energy system used for food production and distribution from oil to electricity.

At a minimum, the entire food production system would need to be modeled. What inventions would be needed to make such a change possible? What materials would be required for the transformation? Where would all these materials come from? How much debt would be required to fund this transformation?

The only thing that the EROEI calculation could claim is that if such a system could be put in place, the amount of fossil fuels used to operate the system might be low. The overwhelming complexity of the necessary transformation has not been modeled, so its energy cost is omitted from the EROEI calculation. This is one way that calculated EROEIs are misleadingly optimistic.

[d] EROEI calculations do not include any energy usage related to the storage of electricity until it is needed. Solar energy is most available during the summer. Thus, the most closely matched use of solar electricity is to power air conditioners during summer. Even in this application, several hours’ worth of battery storage are needed to make the system work properly because air conditioners continue to operate after the sun sets. Also, people who come home from work need to cook dinner for their families, and this takes electricity. Energy costs related to electricity storage are not reflected in the EROEIs shown in published summaries such as those of the Murphy analysis.

A much more important need than air conditioning is the need for heat energy in winter to heat homes and offices. Neither wind nor solar can be counted upon to provide electricity when it is cold outside. One workaround would be to greatly overbuild the system, so that there would be a better chance of the renewable source producing enough electricity when it is needed. Adding several days of storage through batteries would be helpful too. An alternate approach would be to store excess electricity indirectly, by using it to produce a liquid such as hydrogen or methanol. Again, all of this becomes complex. It needs to be tried on small scale, and the real cost of the full system determined.

Both the need to overbuild the system and the need to provide storage are excluded from EROEI calculations. These are yet other ways that EROEI calculations provide an overly optimistic view of the value of wind and solar.

[e] Long distance travel. We use oil products for long distance transport by ship, air, truck, and train. If changes are to be made to use electricity or some sort of “green fuels,” this is another area where the entire change would need to be mapped out for feasibility, including the inventions needed, the materials required, and the debt this change would entail. What timeframe would be required? Would there be any possibility of achieving the transformation by 2050? I doubt it.

The conversion of all transportation to green energy is very much like the needed conversion of the food system from oil to electricity, discussed in [5c], above. Huge complexity is involved, but the energy cost of this added complexity has been excluded from EROEI calculations. This further adds to the misleading nature of EROEI indications for renewables.

[f] A dual system is probably needed. Even if it makes sense to ramp up wind and solar, there still will be a need for many products that are today made with fossil fuels. Fossil fuels are used in paving roads and for making lubrication for machines. Herbicides, insecticides, and pharmaceutical products are often made from fossil fuels. Natural gas is often used to make ammonia fertilizer. Fabrics and building materials are often made using fossil fuels.

Thus, it is almost certain that a dual system would be needed, encompassing both fossil fuels and electricity. There are likely to be inefficiencies in such a dual system. If intermittent renewables such as wind and solar are to be a major part of the economy, this inefficiency needs to be part of any model and needs to be reflected in EROEI calculations.

[g] “Renewable” devices are not themselves recyclable. Instead, they present a waste disposal problem. Solar panels especially present a toxic waste problem. Without much recycling, there is a long term need for minerals of many types to be extracted and transported around the world. These issues are not considered in modeling.

Profitability of Unsubsidized Renewables Is the Best Measure

[6] If renewables are to be truly useful to the system, they need to be so profitable that their profits can be taxed at a high rate. Furthermore, sufficient funds should be left over for reinvestment. The fact that this is not happening is a sign that renewables are not truly helpful to the economy.

Some people talk about the need for “surplus energy” from energy sources to power an economy. I connect this surplus energy with the ability of any energy source to generate income that can be taxed at a fairly high rate. In fact, I gave a talk to the International Society for Biophysical Economics on September 7, 2021, called, To Be Sustainable, Green Energy Must Generate Adequate Taxable Revenue.

The need for surplus energy that can be transferred to the government is closely connected with the debt problem that occurs when oil prices are higher than about $20 per barrel that I noted in Section [1] of this post. Renewable energy must be truly inexpensive, with all storage included, to be helpful to the economy. It must be affordable to citizens, without subsidies. The cost structure must be such that the renewable energy generates so much profit that it can pay high taxes. It is unfortunately clear that today’s renewables are too expensive for the US economy.

EROEI Models Can’t Tell Us as Much as We Would Like

[7] In the real economy, the economy builds up in small pieces, as new approaches prove to be profitable and as all the necessary components prove to be available. EROEI models shortcut this process, but they can easily be misleading.

The concept of Energy Return on Energy Invested has been used for many years in the field of biology. For example, we can compare the energy a fish gets from the food it eats to the energy the fish expends swimming to procure that food. The fish needs to get sufficient energy value from the food it eats to be able to cover the energy expended on the swim, plus a margin for other bodily functions, including reproduction.

Professor Charles Hall (and perhaps others) adapted this concept for use in comparing different energy “extraction” (broadly defined) techniques. More recent researchers have tried to extend the calculation to include energy costs of delivery to the user.

The adaptation of the biological concept of EROEI to the various processes associated with energy extraction works in some respects but not in others. The adaptation clearly works as a tool for teaching diminishing returns. It gives reasonable information for comparing oil wells to each other, or solar panels to other solar panels. But I don’t think that EROEI comparisons across energy types works well at all.

One issue is that there are huge differences in the selling prices of different types of energy. These are ignored in EROEI calculations, making it look feasible to use a high-priced type of energy (such as oil) to produce a low-valued type of output (intermittent electricity from wind turbines or solar panels). If profitability calculations were made instead, without mandates or subsidies (including the subsidy of going first), the extent to which there is a favorable return would become clear.

Another issue is that intermittency of wind and solar adds huge costs to the system, but these are ignored in EROEI calculations. (The situation is somewhat like having workers drop in and leave according to their own schedules, rather than working during the schedule the employer prefers.) In EROEI calculations, the assumption usually made is that the fossil fuel system will provide free balancing services by operating their electricity generation systems in an inefficient manner. In fact, this is the assumption made in the Murphy paper cited previously.

An analysis by Graham Palmer gives some insight regarding the high energy cost of adding battery backup (Figure 7).

Figure 7. Slide based on information in the book, “Energy in Australia,” by Graham Palmer. His chart shows “Dynamic Energy Returned on Energy Invested.”

In Figure 7, Palmer shows the pattern of energy investment and energy payback for a particular off-grid home in Australia which uses solar panels and battery backup. His zig-zag chart reflects two offsetting impacts:

(a) Energy investment was required at the beginning, both for the solar panels and for the first set of batteries. The solar panels in this analysis last for 30 years, but the batteries only last for 7.5 years. As a result, it is necessary to invest in new batteries, three additional times over the period.

(b) Solar panels only gradually make their payback.

Palmer finds that the system would be in a state of energy deficit (considering only energy out versus energy in) for 20 years. At the end of 30 years, the combined system would return only 1.3 times as much energy as the energy invested in the system. This is an incredibly poor payback! EROEI enthusiasts usually look for a payback of 10 or more. The solar panels in the analysis were close to this target level, at 9.4. But the energy required for the battery backup brought the EROEI down to 1.3.

Palmer’s analysis points out another difficulty with wind and solar: The energy payback is terribly slow. If we burn fossil fuels, the economy gets a payback immediately. If we manufacture wind turbines or solar panels, there is a far longer period of something that might be called, “energy indebtedness.” EROEI calculations conveniently ignore interest charges, again making the situation look better than it really is. The buildup in debt is also ignored.

Thus, even without the issue of scaling up renewables if we are to make a transition to energy system more focused on electricity, EROEI calculations are set up in a way that make intermittent renewable energy look far more feasible than it really is. “Energy Payback Period” is another similar metric, with similar biases.

The fact that these metrics are misleading is difficult to see. Very inexpensive fossil fuels pay back their cost many times over, in terms of societal gain, virtually immediately. Wind turbines and solar panels depend upon the generosity of the fossil fuel system to get any payback at all because intermittent electricity cannot support an economy like today’s economy. Even then, the payback is only available over a period of years.

I am afraid that the only real way of analyzing the feasibility of scaling up electricity using wind and solar is by looking at whether they can be extraordinarily profitable, without subsidies. If so, they can be highly taxed and end our government debt problem. The fact that wind and solar require subsidies and mandates, year after year, should make it clear that they aren’t solutions.

About Gail Tverberg

My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
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3,344 Responses to Models Hide the Shortcomings of Wind and Solar

  1. Fast Eddy says:

    I know someone who has a nurse come by and do this

    He is in a strong cash position so can afford this (he insists it works.. is it placebo though) — makes you wonder what someone like Soros does.

    Me – not possible in NZ and why would I – we will all soon be dead.. and as you can see from my comment volume — if I had more energy I might blow a gasket

    • JMS says:

      Somehow this meme reminded me of you 🙂

    • A new way to make money providing services to rich people.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        I suspect if this guy I know was convinced eating raw livers of babies… would prolong his life… and he could get this … without any risks…. he’d likely justify it somehow.

        For instance… so long as he was told the mother was going to abort and instead she delivered so that she could collect the $1000 fee — so that she could feed and educate her other children…

        • Xabier says:


          The whole Covid fraud has taught us that most people will do anything to postpone death, however ridiculous, irrational or immoral.

          It would be good marketing psychology to make these novel miracle treatments expensive – confirms their value to wealthy sucker clients.

  2. Fast Eddy says:


    The banality of the vax death… it takes a really good one now to get my endorphins up…

    I am becoming … inured… even bored…

  3. Fast Eddy says:

    It’s Thursday .. and we know what happens on Thursday!!!

    Mega Schad:

    Please extract your faves and post them on OFW

  4. Fast Eddy says:

    hahahahaha… this is excellent

  5. Fast Eddy says:

    hey keith?

    Transcriber B
    Writes Transcriber B’s Substack
    2 hr ago
    This is a possibly similar case:

    Doug Cameron, Idaho Farm Operations Manager, Paralyzed After J & J Jab

    US Senator Ron Johnson Holds Expert Panel On Federal Vaccine Mandates – Nov 2 2021



    DOUG CAMERON: My name is Douglas Cameron. Prior to April 5th 2021 I was a very healthy, physically active 64 year old when I received the Johnson & Johnson covid vaccine at my workplace. I was encouraged by my employer to get the vaccine. The day after the vaccine on April 6th I started experiencing side effects I believe were related to the shot. I lost bladder control. Suffered ED. My legs felt odd. I had a sinking sensation in my hips. Over the next few days my symptoms worsened and I became alarmed, so I went to the ER, explained that I’d gotten the vaccine and what was happening. I was tested for covid, and tested positive. Blood work and an MRI were done and I was sent home.

    Three days after that I told my wife, I felt like I drank poison. My whole body felt different. I went to bed at 10 o’clock at night, I woke up at 2 o’clock in the morning paralyzed from the diaphragm down.

    I was transported to the hospital and admitted to the covid 19 unit. Took several days to figure out what was happening. The doctors were uncertain how to treat me. They’d never treated anybody with these problems before and they could not decide on a diagnosis. Eventually they found out I had a blood clot in my leg. My entire spine cord had swollen and hemorrhaged. I aspirated on water. Placed on a ventilator, I was in ICU for two weeks.

    I was worried, concerned. My wife panicked about my condition. My life as I knew it was gone. All total I spent 105 days in St. Luke’s Regional Hospital, Saint Alphonsus Rehab Center in Boise, Idaho, and the University of Utah’s Craig Neilsen’s Rehab Hospital.

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    Today I am unemployed paraplegic who is learning an entire new lifestyle. And the only thing I did between full health and my current condition is take a shot. I am real. My symptoms are real. And my life forever has changed. And that is real.

    This has affected, these stories you’re listening to, has affected husbands, wives, children, brothers, sisters, friends. Please pay attention. Thank you.



    # # #


    A clip of this testimony is at this link:

    • Rodster says:

      Spinal inflammation was one of the side effects that was swept under the rug during the UK clinical trials. There were several patients who suffered spinal inflammation and those cases were not entered into the database. The CDC were just as guilty in their under reporting and manipulated database for vaccine related adverse reactions.

  6. Fast Eddy says:

    Due to his poor memory, Lil Wayne’s existence is hazy. This means that he can literally forget everything – not excluding his music.

    The New Orleans-born rapper disclosed in a new interview with Rolling Stone on Friday that he cannot recall which of his famous albums contained which tracks. “I don’t know ‘Tha Carter III,’ ‘Tha Carter II,’ or ‘Tha Carter One’ from ‘Tha Carter IV,'” he acknowledged. And that is the honest truth from God. You could lie and ask me about a certain melody, and I wouldn’t even know what we’re talking about.”

    Wayne, 40, added that his endeavors have “absolutely no significance” to him because he cannot recall them. The “Lollipop” rapper stated that his memory loss is so severe that he cannot recall the release dates of his albums, citing “Tha Carter III” as an example.

  7. Fast Eddy says:

    Robbie Williams stopped his concert halfway through after he started experiencing health issues.

    This is bullshit – it’s a paid insert promoting Long Covid… as a Thing… so that people don’t blame the vax

  8. Fast Eddy says:

    New York rocker Jesse Malin — a veteran of bands like D Generation and Heart Attack, as well as his long solo career — has been paralyzed from the waist down after suffering a spinal stroke. Rolling Stone reports that Malin was out with friends in the East Village in last month, commemorating the one-year anniversary of his former D Generation bandmate Howie Pyro’s death, when he collapsed. He’d suffered from a spinal-cord infarction, a rare ailment, and he hasn’t been able to walk since.

    Bet that came as a shock!

  9. Fast Eddy says:

    James Thorp MD

    Please watch this short clip. After watching this if you are NOT outraged at his lies, deception, conflicts of interest and bogus research then YOU are in denile – and Im not referring the river in Egypt. This is global genocide worse than Josef Mengele. This person is NOT following science but rather money, power, and control like all his colleagues and funders including Gates, Fauci, Baric and the rest of the military-medical industrial complex.

    Shame on the MSM and the rest of the nearly 300 “influencers” that were BRIBED by the $13 BILLION that HHS CDC distributed to them via COVID-19 Community Corps. They were all bribed because they knew beforehand that the Pfizer 5.3.6 post-market 90-day data that it was the deadliest medical intervention EVER rolled out.

    • Xabier says:

      Hotez flipped his position on the vaxxes from reasonable initial caution to serial lies.

      Wow, was the advert for vaxxes in which the guy equates not getting your healthy child vaxxed with carelessly driving over them in your car in the drive really broadcast in the US? Astonishing, a new low in depravity…..

  10. Fast Eddy says:

    Of course… why not…

    So? round and round the Thought Leaders go… achieving ZERO hahaha

    Cancer Taking Off ‘Like Wildfire’: Unsettling Insights from Pathologist Dr. Ryan Cole

    “Turbo cancer is something that wasn’t there, and all of a sudden, it’s everywhere. So it goes from being in one spot to [being] everywhere all at once.”

  11. Fast Eddy says:

    Note the second line below — this is what they want… chaos… fear… confusion… D-M!!!

    Armed police arrest a man after two people were stabbed in a brutal knife attack at Central Middlesex Hospital in London today.

    Can’t even go to hospital without the threat of being stabbed in “modern London”.

    Meanwhile in Paris – BO-OM!!!

    • These kinds of things will make the UK and France less desirable as tourist destinations.

      • Sam says:

        In the states you have to worry about getting gunned down by a nutter. I think I would rather have the knife fight instead. Better chance

    • Xabier says:

      Public hospitals in London are, obviously, not in exclusive areas, and you get all kinds of scum in them, visiting their sick relations and, of course, fellow gang members who have been stabbed……

  12. Fast Eddy says:

    I imagine cnnbbc is on overdrive with this

    The MORE-ONS are titillated… and ignoring this

    Let’s hope the PR Team is willing to sacrifice the MORE-ONS in the sub… for the great good.

    That could drag this cycle along for another week at least after they die… they can start with bios on all the folks inside… then live coverage of the funerals…

  13. Fast Eddy says:

    How long till he bans FE?

    Fast Eddy
    just now
    Models Hide the Shortcomings of Wind and Solar

    “To provide most of our power through renewables would take hundreds of times the amount of rare earth metals that we are mining today,” according to Thomas Graedel at the Yale School of Forestry & Environmental Studies. So renewable energy resources like windmills and solar PV can not ever replace fossil fuels, there’s not enough of many essential minerals to scale this technology up.

    Renewable Energy’s $2.5 Trillion Problem

    Renewable energy ‘simply won’t work’: Top Google engineers

    Two highly qualified Google engineers who have spent years studying and trying to improve renewable energy technology have stated quite bluntly that whatever the future holds, it is not a renewables-powered civilisation: such a thing is impossible.

    Both men are Stanford PhDs, Ross Koningstein having trained in aerospace engineering and David Fork in applied physics. These aren’t guys who fiddle about with websites or data analytics or “technology” of that sort: they are real engineers who understand difficult maths and physics, and top-bracket even among that distinguished company.

    Even if one were to electrify all of transport, industry, heating and so on, so much renewable generation and balancing/storage equipment would be needed to power it that astronomical new requirements for steel, concrete, copper, glass, carbon fibre, neodymium, shipping and haulage etc etc would appear.

    All these things are made using mammoth amounts of energy: far from achieving massive energy savings, which most plans for a renewables future rely on implicitly, we would wind up needing far more energy, which would mean even more vast renewables farms – and even more materials and energy to make and maintain them and so on. The scale of the building would be like nothing ever attempted by the human race.

    In reality, well before any such stage was reached, energy would become horrifyingly expensive – which means that everything would become horrifyingly expensive (even the present well-under-one-per-cent renewables level in the UK has pushed up utility bills very considerably).

    • This is Fast Eddy’s response to Ugo Bardi. Fast Eddy is likely to get kicked out, I afraid.

      Ugo’s bias toward thinking renewables are helpful, is helpful in his employment. For quite a few years, Ugo has been writing books sponsored by the The Club of Rome. The Club of Rome in recent years has been trying to push the ‘renewables will save us’ story. I am afraid Ugo cannot change his story now, without putting himself in a strange position.

  14. Ed says:

    Does anyone know of a history book about the living standards on a Greek island before fossil fuels? Mykonos with its pretty white windmills must have grown grain. They had fish via sail driven fishing boats. Did they grow grapes and make wine locally? Olives? Cloth? Timber?

      baedeker’s Greece, 1909

      Probably the closest book you will find since very few people bothered to write about these islands, not too different from other regions ruled by the Turkish empire at that time (although Greece was nominally independent on 1830s its local institutions did not change too much from during the Turkish days) .

    • same as everywhere else

      basic subsistence—you took from the land only what the land gave—simple rule of life

      if you took more–eventually the land took back your life.

  15. Fast Eddy says:

    Interesting … Trump has an agent .. as does Obama…

    And it’s the same agency hahahahaha

    How in the f789 do I join The Club???????

    I am happy to play whatever role that is required

  16. (About Gail’s son’s school not recognizing her son’s ability because he was autistic)

    Gail might censor this because it is a personal issue, but in a consequentialist term the school’s response was justified.

    Better to give the award to someone who might use it rather than to someone who would probably have no use for it.

    Consequentialism is often derided as ‘The End justifies the Means”. But that is the reality – the End Does Justify the Means.

    North Korea starved its own citizens and there are still oxcarts and pre-world-war-2 steam locomotives (put in by the Japanese around the time of the Russo-Japanese war) operating. But it is a nuclear power, and now with a hypersonic missile, and is a military power to be reckoned with, whether you like the fat guy running it or not.

    One of the most unnecessary world championship was the 2003 Champioionship of Florida Marlins (now called Miami Marlins). Its owner was, and is, stingy and spends little money; and it frustrated Chicago Cubs and New York Yankees (who wanted a championship after 9/11, and would not get it till 2009) . For what end?

    In sports you do have to follow some rules so such kind of behavior has to be tolerated, but in real world resources are limited and they have to be concentrated upon where they can show the most results.

    The whole reason the world ended up is because people who were not likely to advance civilization spent too much resources, feeding the family, watching streaming videos, driving their cheapo cars, etc.

    • Xabier says:

      It was the revenge of the peasants, Kulm, on a huge scale.

      Using up the resources which rightfully belonged to the civilisation creators.

      A horror show!

  17. Slowly at first says:

    Science has been much maligned in response to the insidiousness of the Jab. It should be borne in mind that we have finally come to understand the standard model of cosmology, the biochemistry of living matter, the physiological basis of behavior, and many other crucial concepts.

    • ivanislav says:

      >> we have finally come to understand the standard model of cosmology,

      ? I don’t follow cosmology, but Wikipedia says Yang-Mills was 1954 and there’s been a little theoretical refinement into the 1970’s and since then experimental physicists have only verified some predictions. So nothing new for 50 years and no universal theory of all four forces. It seems they’re all a bunch of useless wanks.

  18. Fast Eddy says:

    “Independent Thought Leaders”

    Tracking back the hidden (cryptocurrency) hand to “independent thought leaders”, “revered experts”, CHD’s ballooning budget, RFK’s Presidential run and Bob Malone’s wild shifting ride

    Everything … is now… fake.

    “We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.” – William J. Casey, CIA Director (1981)

    The reason these people are so convincing in their fakery … is they believe UEP is necessary. Necessary.

    It pre-empts ROF. Therefore it is a plan for good.

  19. I think CroMagnon asked what happened to the elites of the old world after a Reset


    The males perish but the females marry the conquerors and their grandchildren adopt the values of the old world

    I feel funny when a lot of people talk about the so-called J*wish dominance. if there was anything like that they occurred years past since richer Ashkenazim were not too hot reproducing with people like Golda Meyer. If they ever dominated the world, which I don’t think so, it ended long ago as their dominant members took the women from the existing majority to reproduce with.

  20. We can talk about human rights when there are about 1/100 of the current human pop remaining.

    On 1789, when the Revolutionaries cried for the rights of men (some women tried to cash on that but their time was not there yet) there were less than 1 million people who could be called citizens.

    We are going back to such era. It would have been better if we could have reached Singularity and all that, but we will go back to the old days without fulfilling our destiny because of some morons whose names I don’t want to repeat now.

    • ivanislav says:

      You are nothing if not consistent! I admire the effort you put in for such a rightfully thankless job.

  21. In the old world, which is coming back with a vengeance not seen since 1914, you worked until you died.

    To ensure labor supply, the Japanese introduced the practice of the Zenshaku (formal term – colloquially they called “Maegari”) which literally means ‘advanced money’ but was much more strictly enforced.

    Let’s say you send your child to a textile factory for 5 years, paid 10 yen (around $2000 in today’s money) per month, not a small sum in the rural area back then) for 5 years.

    10*60=600. Usually they paid 1/5 of the money, or about 120 yen (the proportion changed all over place but that is kinda the average since nobody kept statistics on it) to the family.

    The other part of the salary, now 8 yen/mo, had lots of deductions, like room and board, ‘association fee’, and a hundred other fees, and if the child (usually a girl) died or ran away, the parents were liable for what they were paid in advance, plus interest, which was usually 20 percent per year. For example if the child died after 20 months because of tuberculosis (rampant at that time), the family would be responsible for paying back 120*2/3 = 80 yen plus 20% interest for the 3 2/3 years for which the child failed to fulfill the contract.

    The Koreans learned such system and widely used it. The practice of Zenshaku lasted in Japan until 1955, and in Korea until early 1970s, but not before they spread it to Southeast and South Asia where it still remains rampant.

    Such system might be very harsh but it led Japan to an Imperial power.

    Don’t blame me or those who conjured such plan to extract the last drop of blood and last molecule of fat from those who are disenfranchised. With less resources, you do what you have to .

    • Tim Groves says:

      This account is fairly consistent with what I’ve heard. Although I haven’t researched the system, it was widely utilized during the pre-war years. Much of rural Japan was populated by substance farmers and cash rarely seen, while barter was widely practiced, and many people bought on credit and settled their accounts with local merchants twice a year.

      There was no shortage of children as this was a human resource-rich country back then. So it made sense for farming families to send one or two of the teenagers to work at the factory or the mill rather than keeping them all hard at work on the land.

      And of course, knowing that their family would suffer privation or bankruptcy if they were to abandon their work kept young people from doing that more effectively than simply signing a contract would have done.

      • Xabier says:

        Lord Byron c 1820:

        ‘It is the same throughout the world: to be poor is to be a slave, whatever the (political) system.’

        To his credit, Byron did at least speak up for the weavers being thrown out of work by new machinery and was personally generous when he encountered distress.

        The only difference being perhaps between a slavery utterly devoid of humanity, or one with at least some degree of decency.

        Kulm’s grandfather was clearly an advocate of the former.

  22. (About Keith’s concern of labor lasting a few hours in the space power stations)

    It is simply. They are sent en masse, about 500 at a time. Let say one person lasts 6 hrs and the crew is 4 at a time.About 125 hrs, or 6 days , and send a new ship.

    The Japanese trained Kamikaze fighters, many of them with University education (not easy to come by in these days), who lasted maybe a few minutes. (It was not allowed to return and if you returned you were shot for cowardice, or simply put into the next plane.)

    I cited the example of the movie hara-kiri (loosely based upon a few similar incidents and also a parody of the politics of the day – movies about WW2 veterans abandoned by the govt are dime a dozen there), and also the nameless lowlives of Tokyo , Osaka and Yokohama simply fed into the reactors to contain the implosion. If there is a will there is a way.

    Americans have a repulsion for such kind of methods to maintain civilization. There are lots of cultures around the world who have no qualms doing that. Maintenance of the System comes before any individual rights.

    • drb753 says:

      To give one more example of how intellectually bankrupt these myths, by which the elites keep an image of themselves as the sole purveyors of civilization… in the past I have noted that they don’t mind pushing concepts that violate the laws of physics. Here we see the appearance of high occupancy space ships, 500 to be precise, details on how to do that are evidently left to the lower level engineering castes.

      and the lowlives are going to work themselves to death once up there, instead of doing what anyone reasonable would do, which is refuse to work.

      • If your family is starving would they refuse?

        In Japan, people who refused to do what I had described were considered hi-kokumin (non-citizens), and were denied all rights including rations. That distinction continued after the war, not officially but in practice, and many of them had to flee their homes. It actually morphed into dissidents who didn’t like how the govt did things, and as a result Japan has few dissidents.

        Those who choose not to work in such circumstances will be put into something worse. The show has to go on.

      • Xabier says:

        English workers mastered the ‘go slow’ as their passive protest.

    • Jan says:

      There have been successful draconic measures in the past. That does not mean every draconic measure must be successful.

    • TIm Groves says:

      I haven’t followed this subject, but for reference I checked with Sage, and it told me that:

      “several workers died during the work to contain the reactor damage at the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant following the 2011 earthquake and tsunami in Japan.

      “According to official reports, a total of 44 workers were hospitalized for injuries sustained during the disaster response efforts, and 19 of those workers died as a result of their injuries. Some of these workers were directly involved in the efforts to cool the damaged reactors and prevent further releases of radioactive material, while others were involved in cleanup and recovery efforts in the aftermath of the disaster.”

      Whether these figures are understated I don’t know. But I would expect so. Certainly, I doubt that they are overstated.

  23. (About the success story Fast Eddy posted)

    Any success by groups not palatable for the ruling class can be killed quite easily.

    In ancient Asia, the Imperial Exams used to be open to everyone.

    Which led to people not from the ruling class passing to often.

    So, the examiners required the applicants to put the name of their mentor. Problem solved.

    The simple method of refusing to grant accreditation to self-taught people solves all problems.

    You can’t win against the powers that be.

  24. Mirror on the wall says:

    > Ukrainian Soldiers SURRENDER To Russia, Public Grows WEARY

    • Fred says:

      What’s wrong with them? Why don’t they want to die for the glory of Ukraine and the elites of the US?

      As Garland Nixon says, they’re a proxy and a vassal and their job is to die for the cause.

  25. Mirror on the wall says:

    The Ukrainian ‘offensive’ is a complete disaster and the cemeteries are literally overflowing.

    This is based on a New York Times report of what the Ukrainian authorities are saying.

    > Ukraine’s Massive Losses Confirmed As Kyiv Digs Old Graves To Bury Dead Soldiers, Russia Blames West

    • Fast Eddy says:

      hahahahaha… and in other news a pc of cheese broke off the moon and landed in a farmer’s pasture — sorry but we don’t have any photos

  26. Mirror on the wall says:

    My, my! ‘Come and do it!’

    Russia seems to foresee that the UKR conflict could move beyond proxy status to direct conflict with NATO.

    If UKR is exhausted and NATO will not accept peace on those terms then NATO will have to ‘man up’ and see what happens.

    > Russia’s Open Challenge To Biden & West Over Ukraine War, Says It’s ‘Prepared to Fight NATO’

    • Fred says:

      Won’t be much of a fight. NATO doesn’t have a real army and hardly any weapons or ammo left.

      The Turks have the best army in NATO, but they’re waay too smart to take on the Russians, plus Putin’s offered Erdogan the role of gas hub, now the EU has cut off its own gas supplies.

      That makes for a tough choice – fight Russia and die, or trade with Russia and get rich. Of course the EU insanocrats would choose the former.

  27. I AM THE MOB says:

    “There is only one party in the United States, the Property Party.”

    ― Gore Vidal

    • Great observation!

      • Dennis L. says:

        Given a choice between a billion dollars and another 20 IQ points I will take the points and I will make the billion. Given the billion and 20 less IQ points and the billion is useless.

        No matter what I need a group, an individual perishes or fails.

        Amish were out today, three men in an open buggy going with coolers to work. Seemed happy, at a horse’s pace. Women drive their own buggies with children, I think they even smile, kids always wave. Two small boys were in their yard, both had ponies, saddled, less than ten years I would guess. Ponies knew who was boss.

        Note on clothes lines: one end of an endless loop tied to the house, the other on a pole perhaps twenty or more feet tall at end of drive, clothes waving in the wind, solar drying and disinfection. Both wind and solar were intermittent today, clouds.

        Dennis L.

        • @Dennis

          Throughout history people with higher IQs didn’t reproduce because the women they were interested upon preferred stupid landowners who had steady income

          Landowners uber alles.

        • Jan says:

          If you had the 20 IQ points plus you would not need the billion! 😄

        • Vern Baker says:

          Its often cited that there is no relationship with IQ to riches, but with a higher income; yes. Mensa often stated that they had members who were homeless. The reason probably being that getting into business is one of the stupidest things you can do for wealth, as it almost always ends in bankruptcy.

          It takes many people working together (most of the time) for wealth to occur and IQ doesnt factor in. EQ does.

          Then there are people like Ted K and Christopher Langan who had very high IQs, and ended up deciding it wasnt worth it.

          I think there is something to that. Once you figure out it’s all silly, and that you are playing someone else’s game… perhaps just enjoying the forest and spending time on a farm is a more rewarding way to spend a short life.

        • I’m at the point where thinking only causes suffering. I’ll give you 20 of my IQ points any day in exchange for $1B. Just feed and water me regularly until the lights go out.

          • Tim Groves says:

            Over half a century ago, the BBC interviewed a bunch of high-IQ children, then 20 years later they re-interviewed them as young adults. I remember seeing a program showing the second interviews. Most of the high-IQ young adults were not doing particularly well. Many were depressed or despondent. The most common complaint they voiced was “I think too much.”

            Of course, knowing the BBC, this could be just another wind up.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Sitting here atop the Mount Everest of IQ … so high it’s measured in horse power… one feels disgust with pretty much all humans outside The Core…

              Look around you — go to the super market — scan the crowd… and know … the odds of one of them not being a MORE-ON are even lower than your chances of winning a $50 million lottery.

          • Xabier says:


            ‘In much knowledge is sadness’ etc.

            I spend some time every now and then thinking like a dog, a total switch-off from human preoccupations.

            Even lie on the bed on my stomach just looking over the edge.

            It’s most relaxing.

            And just like a dog, I don’t have a wife nagging me to ‘do something!’ like cut the grass or put out the rubbish.

            Dogosophy (and divorce?) for ever!

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Too bad it’s not possible to bring a dog on one’s travels…

              Travels with Hoolio.

  28. MG says:

    The people are crazy: They wanted to see the sad fate of others and now they experience it

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Do you think James CamORON will do another movie featuring these suckers who may be sacrificed for the news cycle? He probably had the script written by the psyop team last year

    • Fred says:

      Another triumph for wokedom – the sub designers and support team were DEI hires.

      The curse of Bud light strikes again!

  29. Fast Eddy says:

    More mass D

    Feels fake… doesn’t seem concerned.. notice the photographers coming up and snapping … odd

    Who wants to do THIS math?

  30. Fast Eddy says:

    If the vessel is bobbing at the ocean’s surface, finding it will be a needle-in-a-haystack situation, experts say. The vessel the size of a van will be even harder to spot if it is partially submerged. It is far out in the ocean, so moving ships and equipment to the large area being searched takes time.

    Ah I guess it would not have a transponder to make a distress call.

    Kinda like those spy balloons being used instead of satellites or drones…

  31. jupiviv says:

    I noticed a comment here talking about creating “genius babies” aided by AI and genome-wide association tech. Presumably these genius babies will figure out all the cool tricks to fix the way our society works, as opposed to current leadership, who are presumably all too stu pid to do the same.

    Even leaving that aside the validity of that theory, GWAS for anything omnigenetic is generally speaking useless. If you have 1500 SNPs that make you fat and 2000 SNPs that make you skinny, and you happen to be skinny, then GWAS models will call that entire set of 3500 SNPs “genes that make you skinny”. Repeat hundreds of thousands or millions of times for similar cases and the significance of any one set of SNPs being skinny or fat is close to zero.

    • ivanislav says:

      So you’re smarter than Stephen Hsu and understand the math and statistical power of GWAS better than he does? And how many embryo screening companies have you founded? If what you said were true, they wouldn’t be able to predict height (as just one of many examples), which they can.

      Why do I even bother posting, what a waste of time and energy …

      • jupiviv says:

        I understand that GWAS doesn’t predict height or really any other trait. It supposedly identifies genes that are supposed to predict those traits. It is that predictability which is inversely proportional to how complex the given trait happens to be. Height is fairly simple after controlling for environment. Intelligence, let alone genius, is not.

        • ivanislav says:

          Intelligence is linked with brain volume with correlation ~0.3 last time I checked. Brain volume and neocortical area is very heritable, down to the subregion.

      • Tim Groves says:

        So you’re smarter than Geert Vanden Bossche and understand virology, microbiology and how to neuter cats better than he does? 🙂

        Why do I even bother posting, what a waste of time and energy …

        Oh come now, let’s not give in to ennui and negativity. The show must go on. If someone is wrong on the Internet, which happens occasionally I understand, it’s our civic duty to do our best to see them outed.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          But a chicken virus that represents one of the deadliest germs in history breaks from this conventional wisdom, thanks to an inadvertent effect from a vaccine. Chickens vaccinated against Marek’s disease rarely get sick. But the vaccine does not prevent them from spreading Marek’s to unvaccinated birds.

          “With the hottest strains, every unvaccinated bird dies within 10 days. There is no human virus that is that hot. Ebola, for example, doesn’t kill everything in 10 days.”
          In fact, rather than stop fowl from spreading the virus, the vaccine allows the disease to spread faster and longer than it normally would, a new study finds. The scientists now believe that this vaccine has helped this chicken virus become uniquely virulent. (Note: it only harms fowl). The study was published on Monday in the journal PLOS Biology.

          This is the first time that this virus-boosting phenomenon, known as the imperfect vaccine hypothesis, has been observed experimentally.

          The reason this is a problem for Marek’s disease is because the vaccine is “leaky.” A leaky vaccine is one that keeps a microbe from doing serious harm to its host, but doesn’t stop the disease from replicating and spreading to another individual. On the other hand, a “perfect” vaccine is one that sets up lifelong immunity that never wanes and blocks both infection and transmission.

    • ivanislav says:

      PS –

      >> Presumably these genius babies will figure out all the cool tricks to fix the way our society works

      They don’t need to fix our society, they just need to create a functional parallel society. Our society/civilization seems destined for failure and it very well may be and furthermore our demise may be required for their success (to stop population growth and lower resource inputs to sustainable levels, as put forth by WEF).

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Lock 10 of the smartest circus animals in a room for a week with no food – ask them to invent a parallel society – then watch as they rip each other to pieces and eat the body parts raw

        • ivanislav says:

          It’s hard not to want ROF, I’m so disgusted.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            I’m OK if this goes ROF — so long as I have the option of Super Fent … so that when my gun barrels are in meltdown from shooting at the zombie MORE-ONS… I have the option of opting out

            I’ll get out on the balcony and shout at the zombies – f789 ya’ll then down the Fent… and just before I drift off… i’ll set the house on fire hahahahahaha

      • jupiviv says:

        It’s irrelevant to my point whether they’re managing our society or a secret underground one. The assumption is the same, that for some reason those geniuses would be better than our leaders who I guess aren’t geniuses because they aren’t doing a good job. It’s circular reasoning.

        But hey, if this idea gets you through the day then by all means indulge yourself. Not like it matters either way.

        • Tim Groves says:

          I would like to chime in by saying I am glad that our current leaders are not geniuses. It’s their lack of genius rather than any vestiges of integrity that prevents them from executing evil effectively and efficiently.

          • Xabier says:

            I’d agree Tim: they are distinctly lacking in genius, brilliant cunning, inventiveness, flair, plausible mendacity and, above all, oozing charm.

            Evidence is that Tony Blair, for God’s sake, is the best they could come up with here to sweep us all into vaxx passes and digital ID’s. Tony Blair!

            Every night I thank God, on my knees, by the light of a guttering candle, for their transparent corruption and ineptitude.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Definition of Genius — a genius is an extremely stoooopid type of human who has worked out how to pillage the Earth faster than other less stooopid humans — and who is celebrated by most humans for owning a private jet and super yacht.

    • jupiviv says:

      FE you actually linked to something decent and sane. What’s wrong with you man? Tsk!

    • Interesting story–boy from a dis-functional family in Alabama taught himself math. He also helped coach a team of youth from the area. The group went on to win a national math contest. The White House didn’t want to honor the group, the way it had honored past groups. It couldn’t say, “See what a good job Alabama schools are doing. These are the best of the best,” since Alabama is known for being near the bottom, academically.

      • Anna Norseman says:

        Interesting history lesson from 1991 – 32 years ago – when George H.W. Bush was president.

        • My son with autism received the highest SAT score in the county in Georgia where he attended school in 1994. Prior to his getting the high score, it had been the custom of the school to recognize the winner at the annual day recognizing students with outstanding achievements. It was decided not to recognize my son, apparently because he was a “special ed” student. He doesn’t necessarily act quite right. He still doesn’t drive. This was not the kind of student that the school wanted to recognize as doing outstanding work on a test.

          • ivanislav says:

            Sorry to hear that, I’m surprised at their shameful decision.

          • Dennis L. says:

            SAT is pretty much a stand in for an IQ test, he chose his parents well.

            Dennis L.

          • Fast Eddy says:


          • Xabier says:

            Shameful, Gail!

            It goes the other way, too: our school Captain at one time was a sleek and handsome Indian (hello, Kulm!) who looked the part, went on to become a doctor – only just scrapping through exams by his own admission – and eventually smooched his way up to become a lord.

            I must look him up and see what he said about Covid. Bet he followed the narrative.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          How many boosters have you had now anna?

      • Tim Groves says:

        I was impressed when I read Mathew Crawford’s account of his childhood last week. It also registered with me that Sage Hana also wrote about his dysfunctional abusive family last month. So, we have anecdotal evidence adversity can help produce good Substack writers.

        By the way, I thought my own childhood was harrowing enough, but it doesn’t compare to what those two went through. Looking back now, I was over-imaginative and afraid of my own shadow. But Mathew and Sage both lived through nightmarish childhoods caused largely by their own family members. It’s a miracle they didn’t turn out schizophrenic.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          One of my fondest memories goes back to the 70’s… I’m probably 10 yrs old or so… Christmas at Uncle’s…

          Uncle is a hard rock miner — shift boss — he’d run about 6ft.. 230lbs battle hardened from swinging a pick against rock (I recall his forearms being as big as my leg)… his wife was all of 5ft and 100lbs… I am told uncle in his younger years would go out seeking fights… that kinda guy…

          Anyhow… he had two sons … tall skinny guys — maybe 170lbs… both did time in prison for nothing major … might have involved petty drug crimes– can’t remember…

          The big drunk was on that night — the boys are working out west but came home for the holidays (big mistake)… Uncle hammers back the better part of a 40oz of CC…

          And then the war is on… for whatever reason he unhinges on the two boys — you long haired bastard druggies hippies etc… the boys — ever-fearful of his wrath — retreat to the street and hurl insults and rocks at father…

          I still remember Uncle hollering – come over you little bastards if I get hold of you I’ll bust you in two… more rocks .. more screaming…

          The boys come closer to taunt the raging beast.. other family males including my father try to calm the big unit down but nobody is gonna get in the middle of that … they fear uncle when he’s in a drunken rage.

          Ultimately a neighbour must have called the cops — they arrived and the boys headed for who knows where and the beast went back into his lair for more CC…

          On other occasions uncle – who hated French Canadians (strangely his wife was French .. and I am told she was in a convent before she somehow hooked up with him)… would blow his top if the Montreal Canadiens would beat the Leafs… by the end of the game he’d be through a bottle of whisky and in a very bad mood — his 100lb wife would take the brunt of his anger… she frequently sported black eyes and was hospitalized with broken bones more than once.

          The thing is … uncle was a fairly pleasant person when he was not CC’ed out of his mind.

  32. Student says:


    “German recession will be sharper than expected: Ifo”

    ”BERLIN, June 21 – The German economy will contract more than previously expected this year as sticky inflation takes its toll on private consumption, the Ifo Institute said on Wednesday while presenting its forecasts.

  33. Fast Eddy says:


    Fast Eddy
    just now
    You have lost the plot.

    • Xabier says:

      One fears that he has, hence shutting down the old blog which drew to many negative criticisms for his espousal of ‘renewables’.

      He will end up muttering to himself.

      Like so many others he can’t face the truth of our situation. The interesting thing is he did appear at one point to understand the Great Cull and the purpose of all the censorship and coercion around the so-called pandemic – but he seems to have snapped.

      Facing a miserable old age and death, he has turned to the cult of renewables, and like many cultists now believes impossible things.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Seems to have limited readership — still only FE’s lone comment.

        He should print that out and frame it.

        • Xabier says:

          A sad end, but it’s just a blog…….

          Tim Morgan is evolving a bit: he now has to admit that TPTB are not believers in endless growth but quite the opposite, and therefore lying about ‘renewables growth’.

          Maybe a Dark Enlightenment awaits him?

      • Ugo keeps bouncing around from platform to platform.

        He was temporarily a contributor to, but then quit that. He has had at least a couple of different blogs before starting this Substack platform.

        I emailed Ugo a copy of my current post. Ugo didn’t respond.

        I also corresponded with Charlie Hall about this current post. Charlie Hall has always been gracious about discussing anything, including this post. His big hang up seems to be understanding that demand doesn’t magically appear. He has never been a huge fan of renewables.

        Ugo was born on May 23, 1952, so he is 71 years old.

        • Xabier says:

          I’ve noticed in Ugo’s posts a horror of ‘going back to subsistence farming’ if so-called renewables fail.

          This arises an from awareness of just how hard that peasant life can be, more common in Europe than in, say, Britain, where rural life can be sentimentalised.

          Of course in the US you still have a folk memory of dirt-poor rural life in the 1930’s (I’m quite fond of Appalachia videos!).

          At his age, Ugo must fear greatly for his children. A decent pension and secure savings for him are also looking most improbable.

          • I remember Ugo said he could have inherited his parents’ home, but the upkeep costs would have been too high. It was built back in the day when energy costs were a lot lower. Now, having a lifestyle similar similar to that of his parents was out of reach.

            • Xabier says:

              Yes a very pleasant house into which they had put a lot of money and effort.

              He’s moved into a kind of small cave-house I think, much cheaper to heat and naturally cooler.

          • Dennis L. says:


            The Amish seem to make it work although they are part of a more advanced society compared to subsistence.

            Large gardens, large families, well behaved horses. Younger horses are tied to a fence by the road, I assume to get them used to autos.

            Dennis L.

            • amish society works because they live in a benign environment under the protection of a largely benign government

              maybe the amish know that anyway–or maybe they dont

              rather like to funeral of my mate today—great guy, and everybody loved him

              “I’m ok living on my own–i can look after myself”—to which several of us used to smile with benign indulgence–because without our concerted input he would havee been in a care home years ago

              But we all cared about him—and left him to his delusion. We were able to give him that for free.
              we gave him a good sendoff today.—nobody mentioned me helping him to get vaxxed 2 years ago

              the analogy between him and the amish is exact

            • “nobody mentioned me helping him to get vaxxed 2 years ago”

              Because they were well-mannered?

            • Xabier says:

              In the past, many rural families were suddenly totally ruined when the father died young, or indeed both parents.

              Or perhaps after 2 years of failed crops and disease in their herds, a disastrous fire, etc.

              Then it was off to the nearest town/London for service, construction labour or prostitution; or becoming poor servants and labourers on other farms. Or join the army, go to sea as a disposable recruit.

              I feel the Amish are living in a bubble very unlike earlier times.

              I recall some regional TV interviews with old people from our part of Spain, all very small family farms, flocks of sheep, forestry work, etc.

              ‘What was it like in the past?’

              ‘Horrible, very hard! Very hard!’ Their faces said it all….

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Hard people … struggled…

              Soft doomie preppers… being tossed back 500 yrs in time … overnight…

              Hard to imagine that will end well

          • Fast Eddy says:

            let’s drive some more nails into his delusions!

            Is it just me or did he remove the post about renewables?


          • we all fear for our children

            with good reason i think

        • Fast Eddy says:

          I’ve subscribed… I do enjoy a good Taunt

      • drb753 says:

        You are not wrong, Xabier. The Bardi family is one of the most illustrious in Florence. It is normal that Ugo would ultimately assume an intellectual position more in tune with his origins. He is no son of the people.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          The House of Bardi was an influential Florentine family that started the powerful banking company Compagnia dei Bardi. In the 14th century the Bardis lent Edward III of England 900,000 gold florins, a debt which he failed to repay along with 600,000 florins borrowed from the Peruzzi family, leading to the collapse of both families’ banks. During the 15th century the Bardi family continued to operate in various European centres, playing a notable role in financing some of the early voyages of discovery to America including those by Christopher Columbus and John Cabot.[1]

          • drb753 says:

            Due to an unlikely set of circumstances I had a chance to visit one of their villas (not the Bardis, but a family of similar prestige in Florence). Their heyday may have passed but the wealth they have stored and hidden is eye opening. It is much more so in Florence, since it was the original banking power. Florence is a place that largely missed the industrial revolution and lives off of tourism.

            I have also been in nobles homes in my hometown Bologna (as a laborer) and there was no comparison. Indeed bolognese nobles have almost entirely sold their country villas and parks, now used for weddings and receptions. Bologna did not miss the industrial revolution.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              When I was in Florence … I wandered into a back alley … and this guy was selling these things made out of dried baby skin (human vellum I suppose?) … it’s a box with a booklet thing inside with quotations … I bought this one


            • Xabier says:

              I’m not surprised. A friend married into one of the great English noble families, the Howards, and recently went to a wedding in Florence, a similar old-money family – astonished by the luxury!

      • He left that beautiful villa just above the town in order to live in a basement. I’m sure that got to him on some level.

  34. Fast Eddy says:

    Why? Encouraged so more mass d?

  35. Fast Eddy says:

    Watch for a minute or so from here

  36. Fast Eddy says:

    Remember this guy

  37. Fast Eddy says:

    “After the movie ended, Bryan and I went upstairs to sleep while Jack slept hand in hand with his sister,” McKeithen wrote in another journal entry. “Once he fell asleep and the only eyes on Liza were those of her ‘other mother’, Liza took a final breath, sighed, and transitioned into the next realm.”


  38. Fast Eddy says:

    Who wants Schad?

    ‘Liza Burke, college senior who had brain hemorrhage on spring break, dies of brain tumor’; is this another instance of TURBO aggressive cancer? due to mRNA technology gene based injection vaccine?

    How is this happening to our young people? How come the legacy media is tongue tied & zipped lipped and will not ask Malone, Kariko, Weissman et al. what did they do with their deadly mRNA technology?

    Now norm don’t you go printing this out and sticking it on your wall…

  39. Yorchichan says:

    Never mind the rat juice, turns out most of us here are more endangered by the rat poison:

    Best lay off the supplements, if you want to remain Super Tim.

    • CTG says:

      He is currently a Professor at Baylor College of Medicine in the Department of Pediatrics and Molecular Virology & Microbiology as well as the Dean for the National School of Tropical Medicine. He is also the co-director for Texas Children’s Hospital Center for Vaccine Development.

      Does that mean

      1. We must trust him 100% and never to question him?
      2. Is he right all the time? Has he every admitted he was wrong before?
      3. Why is it not OK to have a on air discussion if he is “so correct”?

      It is only those who are not honest that do not want a debate. Plain and simple.

      • Xabier says:

        There’s an interesting post about Hotez at The Automatic Earth today, posted by ‘Germ’.

        He flipped from initially warning about EUA’s for vaccines being problematic, and potentially rather dangerous and counter-productive , to being a major advocate and white-washer of the mRNA shots.

        In fact, he said everything the ‘anti-vaxxers’ wrned about.

        Gosh, were $’s involved somewhere along the line? One wonders. Some people do have very flexible morals and can even turn ‘The Science’ on its head at a whim.

        Keith has bought the propaganda line that all ‘anti-vaxxers’ are nut jobs who’d stalk people, etc. Quite pathetic.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          My door is always open to anyone from the PR Team who wants to cut a deal on the Rat Juice thing…

          Just ring my agent (same agent that Trump Obama Blair etc… all use)

  40. Prof.(ret.) Dr Mark Campbell Williams says:

    Brilliantly done yet again Gail. Thanks for putting your article on audio. This helps me more deeply understand your insights and overall position. (Prof.(ret.) Dr Mark Campbell Williams)

    • I am glad someone likes the audio version.

      I don’t really understand what is going on in the “audio world.” Apparently there has been some problem recently with making money from these audio podcasts. Spotify originally made it easy to make podcasts from WordPress posts, but then it stopped. It couldn’t make enough money from this aspect of its podcasts.

      There are various alternatives. I decided to try Trinity. It has a free, “try it out” version, which I used on the first post I put up. I discovered when I tried to put this post up that I had used up my “free” version credit. I tried to sign up for the paid version, but it wouldn’t let me. I wrote to the help desk, and they recently got back to me to give me another free version credit while they investigate what went wrong. So that is how this post went up.

      There are any number of other companies that do this service. I will try again on the next post. I may end up switching to a third company.

  41. Fast Eddy says:

    Chinese policymakers are facing growing calls for economic stimulus, this time from several prominent state media and top government advisers.

    The country’s three main state-run securities newspapers ran front-page articles Wednesday saying the central bank is likely to ease monetary policy further, citing well-known economists.

    I know how to solve the problem — pump out millions of cardboard boxes… and pile them on top of the EVs that they are dumping in that parking lot hahahaha

    • moss says:

      Well, with their inflation running at only 0.2% over the past 12 months they’re running far behind all the rest of the G20, though their credit growth has been through the wazoo

      Very interesting table from Tradingeconomics detailing national inflation around the world

    • China is not doing well.

      I am never sure which of their numbers to believe. The new report from BP is coming out in a few days. I wonder if the numbers from China will be the real numbers, or numbers that they would like the world to believe.

  42. mandarin says:

    With respect to dedollarization, I’ve commented several times in recent months that the big issue in international trade is a settlement platform, which I’d assumed would be part of the NDB
    Maybe, rather, it’ll be under the auspices of the Teheran based Asia Clearing Union est 1974 by five central banks (India, Iran, Nepal, Pakistan, and Sri Lanka). Later, Bangladesh, Myanmar, Bhutan and Maldives signed the Agreement and the number of the ACU participants reached nine. These nations are about to undertake trade bilateral settlement through the ACU

    “TEHRAN (FNA)- The rupee, ruble, yuan and Iran’s financial messaging system SEPAM will respectively replace the dollar and SWIFT in trade exchanges beginning next month, the secretary general of the Asian Clearing Union (ACU) announced.
    … Last month, the central bank governors of ACU member states decided at a summit in Tehran to create an internal financial messaging system to replace SWIFT in banking transactions between them.”

    Or maybe it’s a dry run for a broader reach on the part of the New Development Bank.
    no one knows the future

    • moss says:

      sorry, that was me imagining a different reincarnation …

    • Jan says:

      A currency reflects the GDP of the respective currency area, including expectations into the future that allow credits.

      If you cut the currency area into halves and restrict the currency to one half and implement a new currency for the other half, then both currencies reflect each half of the GDP including expectations. That means the credits of the old currency will default as expectations halve, while the new currency can grant credits generously.

      Precondition is, the exchange between both currencies and markets is restricted. And of course the restrictions can be enforced militarily.

      I think this is going to happen!

    • Interesting idea.

      It could well be that one exchange is for one group of countries and the other is for a different group of countries, with little trade (or need for money) flowing between the two.

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