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I was recently asked to be a keynote speaker for World Management Conference (WMC 2023) in Patna, India. The academic group that asked me to speak was particularly concerned about Complexity and Sustainability. A PDF copy of the presentation is available at this link.
The primary things I pointed out to the group were the following:
- The slower the growth, the more sustainable an economy is over the moderately long term.
- Energy consumption and the use of complexity tend to rise together.
- Too much complexity can lead to collapse.
- In general, the most “efficient” economies can be expected to do best.
- Over the long term, all economies will collapse.
- There have been shifts in which economies get a major share of available energy supplies. Shifting patterns are likely again in the future.
- India may come out ahead in an energy squeeze because its warm climate and conservative culture allow its energy consumption per capita to remain low.
A great deal of my presentation was simply a restatement of the words on the slides, in a slightly different way. So, my comments on the slides will be quite brief.
Of course, after complexity solves problems, population continues to grow, creating a similar problem all over again. This likely leads to the need for even more complexity.
My crude drawing represents the difference between slow growth in population and fast growth in population. Rapid growth is difficult to sustain for very long because arable land and fresh water don’t grow.
There is a similar problem if fossil fuel energy is being used. If growth in consumption is very fast (for example, China’s growth pattern starting in 2002), it becomes impossible to keep up the pattern. There can be two different problems: (a) Running short of fuels, leading to the need for higher-cost extraction and/or imports, and (b) Overpromising in the financial markets, leading to debt defaults and stock market crashes. China seems to be encountering both difficulties, even though its population is falling, rather than growing.
Organizing workers to plant and harvest crops represented a major step up in complexity, relative to hunting and gathering.
A metal tool, such as the one shown on Slide 5, greatly helped the productivity of farmers compared to using a sharpened rock or a piece of wood as a tool, or using only bare hands.
Of course, this list of uses is very incomplete. For example, both coal and natural gas are burned to create electricity.
As an example of a) above, a metal shovel allows more food to be grown. Food is, of course, an energy product that humans eat. Another example would be better drilling approaches that allow more oil to be extracted from a well.
Regarding b), greater complexity makes cars more fuel-efficient cars, making the cars less expensive to operate. This makes them more affordable, so more people can afford to buy them. This is known as Jevons’ Paradox. Although the devices look more efficient, the fact that more people can afford them allows the total amount of fuel used to increase.
Item c) relates to adding “buying power.” If more people can afford goods because of more government spending or more government debt, the added buying power keeps the demand, and thus the prices, of energy products up higher than they otherwise would be. The higher prices motivate businesses to extract harder-to-access energy resources that might not be profitable to extract if the prices were lower.
We extract the least expensive to extract oil, coal, or natural gas first. Even if our techniques get better, at some point, the price of fossil fuels used in growing and transporting of food becomes unreasonably high. Poor people, especially in low-income countries, have a hard time affording an adequate diet.
Slide 14 shows a chart I put together to try to explain the physics-based way economies are built. In a way, they are built in layers, with new businesses being added at the top, over old businesses, and new laws being added to old sets of laws. New human customers are added, too, and some die or move away.
Every action that contributes to GDP requires energy of some kind. It could be human energy powered by food, or human energy plus fossil fuel powered energy. Moving a truck or train requires energy. Even moving electrons, as in heating food or transferring electrons within transmission lines, takes energy.
One thing that keeps the system in balance is the fact that many of the consumers are also employees. If wages are not high enough (particularly for the poorer members of the economy), it becomes increasingly difficult for them to afford the basic goods and services that they need for living. Of course, changing interest rates or the availability of credit also affects the affordability of goods and services.
Early in the life of the economy, both energy consumption and complexity rise, as depicted in The Energy-Complexity Spiral by Joseph Tainter, illustrated on Slide 12,
At some stage, the economy reaches a point of too much wage and wealth disparity. Poor people cannot afford the necessities of life. Riots by poor people become common, as they did about 2018 and 2019, indirectly because of low wages and low benefit levels. Governments find ways to make goods more affordable, as many did in 2020 (partly by ramping up money supply and partly by limiting travel, thereby reducing oil demand and thus oil prices).
As the economy tries to bounce back, inflation and broken supply lines can become problems, as they did in 2021. More fighting tends to take place, as it did with the Ukraine conflict beginning in 2022. In some ways, the economy begins to sound like the book Nineteen Eighty-Four by George Orwell, with a great deal of censorship of opinions not conforming to government-sponsored views.
If the problem really is a resource problem that cannot be fixed with more complexity, the high level of wage disparity will ultimately lead to the population falling because poor people cannot afford necessities. Large cities are particularly prone to collapse. GDP can be expected to fall at the same time.
Politicians cannot admit that such a problem might be lying ahead because they want to be reelected. Educators want students to think that high-paying jobs for people with advanced education will continue to be available in the future. Businesses want people to believe that the cars and homes that they are purchasing will be worthwhile investments for many years in the future. Mainstream media has no choice but to tell the stories governments and businesses want told. Governments offer research grants on projects associated with the favored technologies, giving financial incentives to publish academic papers supporting the chosen narrative.
The whole process is assisted by the fact that academic areas within universities each seem to exist within their own ivory towers. Researchers within economics departments don’t understand that there is a physics reason for the world’s high energy consumption; “scientific modelers” don’t understand the limits of a finite world. Scientific modelers assume that growth can happen indefinitely, while both history and physics indicate that this is impossible.
The chart shown on Slide 19 is a repeat of Figure 1, shown at the beginning of this post. In this chart, the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) is an organization of 37 rich countries of the world, including the US, Canada, most of the countries of Europe, Japan, Australia, and New Zealand. Its energy consumption clearly has been squeezed down since 2002, when China’s energy consumption started rising after it joined the World Trade Organization (WTO) in December 2001.
As mentioned on Slide 18, the share of world energy consumption of Russia (+ closely affiliated countries) has been squeezed back for a very long time. This may be part of the reason why Russia seems to be so unhappy.
India’s share of world energy consumption is small, but it has been growing.
The share of energy consumption by countries in the Rest of the World has also been growing. This group would include OPEC countries, plus the many poor countries around the world.
In item 4 on Slide 20, regarding vehicles being small, I mean that motorcycles, 3-wheeled auto rickshaws, and mini trucks are used to a much greater extent in India than in the richer countries of the world.
It might be mentioned that China’s per-capita energy consumption is now almost as high as that of Europe. At the time it joined the WTO in 2001, China’s energy consumption per capita was only about 25% of high as that of Europe. China would now seem to be in danger of having its share of world energy consumption squeezed back because it is itself becoming relatively rich.
The chart shows that India’s oil consumption has been rising, while its oil production has been trending downward for about a decade. Imports make up the difference. In an oil-constrained world, the question is whether oil imports will really continue to be available at an affordable price. Diesel and jet fuel are in particularly short supply.
India, like pretty much everywhere else in the world, gets the vast majority of its energy supply from fossil fuels. Using the Energy Institute’s (EI’s) way of counting, about 88% of India’s energy consumption in 2022 came from fossil fuels.
It is confusing to know how to count wind and solar because their electricity is not available when needed. If they are given credit as if they provide dispatchable electricity (which is EI’s approach), then their combined percentage is 6%. If wind and solar are counted as only replacing fuel, then their combined share of energy supply is about 2% or 3% in 2022. The International Energy Agency (IEA) uses the approach providing the lower indications, as do many researchers.
When an economy starts shrinking, as shown in Slide 15, there is a problem with supply lines breaking in an overly complex society. Much of the world experienced some broken supply lines in 2020 and 2021. We can expect more broken supply lines again in future years.
Supply lines are likely to get shorter because of the shortages of diesel and of jet fuel. In particular, fewer goods and services are likely to be shipped across the Atlantic or Pacific Ocean. More trade will be regional in nature. For example, India will probably have a larger share of its total trade with other countries of Southeast Asia than now.
We can expect more fighting among countries because the world will basically be in a situation of “not enough to go around.” India would do well to stay out of these wars.
Intermittency of electrical supply will likely become more of a problem in the future. Replacement parts after storms will be more difficult to obtain.
It is tempting for high energy economies to forget the importance of traditions and religion. Religions help bind groups together. Their laws and traditions give people a way to live with one another, without having a huge army of police being hired to keep order.
As economies become richer, the belief tends to become: The government can save us from all problems. We no longer need our traditional beliefs. All we need to do is focus on more even distribution of goods and services.
Unfortunately, the economy doesn’t work this way. Governments can print money, but they can’t print additional food and water. With broken supply lines, essential commodities such as fertilizer become unavailable. Population must drop for the economies to get back in balance. This is the reason that wars become more frequent, as complexity limits are hit.
Has everyone forgotten?
Today is the day…..
NASA Revealing the OSIRIS-REx Asteroid Sample LIVE
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EYEiP4C5WGo&pp=ygUKT1NJUklTLVJFeA%3D%3D
The first asteroid sample collected in space by a U.S. spacecraft and brought to Earth is unveiled to the world at NASA’s Johnson Space Center in Houston on Wednesday, Oct. 11.
The science team from NASA’s OSIRIS-REx (Origins, Spectral Interpretation, Resource Identification and Security – Regolith Explorer) mission will provide results from an initial analysis of the sample, which landed on Sunday, Sept. 24, in the Utah desert. News conference participants include:
• NASA Administrator Bill Nelson
• Lori Glaze, NASA Planetary Directorate Science Division Director
• Dante Lauretta, OSIRIS-REx principal investigator, University of Arizona, Tucson
• Francis McCubbin, OSIRIS-REx Head Astromaterials curator, NASA Johnson
• Daniel Glavin, OSIRIS-REx sample analysis lead, NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt
Scientists worldwide will study the bits of asteroid to gather clues about the origin of the solar system and how life may have begun on Earth.
Later found to be petrified wood. Or how about they announce they have found a massive asteroid made of the highest quality coal .. and will haul it back to Earth…
Then Greta can organize massive protest marches around the world
At least one of the Hamas paragliders went in with a Ukrainian blue/yellow colorscheme, presumably to show thanks for having been provided weapons by them.
https://twitter.com/ThomasVLinge/status/1712090002576777504
No doubt to give the Ishmaelis a false sense of security.
Or is the film shopped?
I am having difficulty trying to make sense out of Exxon’s acquisition of shale oil giant Pioneer. After all, shale oil depletion is “scheduled” to begin in earnest in 2025. Shale drilling is fraught with rapid decline in existing well production(40% per year?) In some ways, shale oil, which supplies the lighter grade ( but not so much diesel or kerosene, which are the workhorses of our economy and MIC, ) for automobiles is the umbilical cord for the marginal gasoline production for consumer driving.
Is this acquisition a subtle act to gain a chokehold control of the consumer ? Or a precursor to nationalization? I realize these questions are a stretch…but still.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/wall-street-applauds-exxons-transformational-home-run-deal
Shale is already nationalized… it could not happen without the backstop of the Fed
The Feb is funding this Exxon deal
How is the Fed funding the Exxon deal? The 5% interest rates can’t help.
https://mishtalk.com/economics/citigroup-takes-delivery-of-100000-tons-of-aluminum-and-40000-tons-of-zinc/
At the same time
https://ycharts.com/indicators/aluminum_price
https://ycharts.com/indicators/zinc_price
This goes back to the Glass Steagall Act 1933 which separated investment banking from traditional deposit banking. A bank that can do both but yet receive bailouts by the tax payer when they make lousy investments is a get out of jail free pass for criminal banks already engaged in corrupt banking –due to an unbacked fractional reserve fiat banking system.
Think about all the ramifications. Historically Anschutz Rothschild had said in 1896 “Let me control a NATION’s money and I care not who makes the laws.”
Now it is global. Let me control the WORLD’s reserve CURRENCY and I care not who makes the laws.
Promissory debt from FED printing, especially in the context of an unbacked world reserve currency in this age of the internet where trillions move in minutes and modern militaries with weapons of mass destruction at the fingertips has allowed emergence of a corporatocracy, former fascism, ie.., duopoly of control by both politicians and corporations. It is well entrenched within nations, but is making inroads on a global scale. No wonder we have non stop war.
Good point!
This seems to be a long, complicated article in the WSJ:
U.S. Considers Dropping Sanctions Against Israeli Billionaire in Push for EV Metals
Plan would let Dan Gertler participate in mining deals with Saudi Arabia; American companies would get some of the metals
The minerals in question seem to be nickel from Indonesia as well as cobalt and copper from Africa.
So, the US is “getting in bed” with this crook. The reason is
Of course, all of this EV stuff doesn’t really get us anywhere. And funding of anything will be with more debt.
Disclaimer: I don’t like this idea at all, but……
These people live in the real world, with real stuff and deal with people who are to put it “mildly” direct.
Elites are academics who make things work on paper, the ideas feel good, green feels good. Green needs metals and those who do the dirty work of digging metals under less than ideal conditions are real.
This is not dissimilar to the end of WWII, things worked in Germany but those running things were associated with a funny little man with a mustache . Japan was having difficulties making things work, MacArthur when summoned to explain why things weren’t working very well, reported he could not hire certain people with a dubious past. He was ordered to change and the rest is hx, Japan became an industrial powerhouse.
The universe is unfolding before us, it is up to us to read it and accept it as it is. The universe is not perfect, it does things which work 20% of the time and give 80% of the results. Or, God always answers your prayers, but only 20% of the time do the answers work, He is not perfect, but the good answers cover the 80% which do not work. Metaphor: need a ball of iron a certain size? Well, blow up a few stars until the right size ball comes out; new meaning to NIMBY.
Dennis L.
Belief that a person can follow the rules and get ahead has gone by the wayside.
Way too many people have tried to get good grades in high school and go on to college, only to find out that doing so left them trapped with too much debt and an inability to get a job that pays well enough to get married, buy and home, and start a family.
Those of use who grew up while energy consumption per capita was rising rapidly have a different view of the world. At that time, it looked like following the rules could work.
It is a disturbing world we live in, now. Young people see a far more frightening world than those who grew up years ago found.
I like how Gail always comes back to her primary thesis concerning energy depletion and it’s effect on the economy and society. Conspiracy has always been a part of human history but may only be a secondary effect of depletion and it’s effect on humanity and all of our nefarious activities.
Ya but they have a prosperous future to look forward to once the transition is completed to EVs and solar panels…
And USD6000 insurance premiums for the EVs. hahahahahaha
They will also be around to see the first Somalian mission to Mars… it will be manned….
I am curious to see how soon the true rage is made manifest. When every young person with an IQ north of 90 realizes that anyone who takes a government check in ANY form is their literal direct enemy.
How fast will the gangs form and how fast does the religion of the warband arrive.
May the thinning veil tear open soon enough that I can observe for a brief while as the “Better Angels of our Nature” are impaled by the war entities pouring into this construct.
I have a crate of ammo – I’d like to have a chance to plug some MOREONS before this ends … cockroaches
One wonders if there was a discussion about it if he was not rich and not interested to open a mine.
Neither a discussion about saying him sorry, or about him wanting to behave well, but just a discussion about letting him open a mine.
We should be careful when we depict ourselves as the good part of the world.
I am afraid the US started moving away from “good” as a motive after 1970. It needs to keep its hegemony, even if it takes all kinds of very questionable deals and auto do this.
Back of the envelope debt calculation surprisingly close. I roughed it to $1.2T/year,
Zero Hedge has it at 1.15, close enough.
Hard to see where this goes, hyperinflation? Or does the whole thing cease up due to liquidity issues secondary to the velocity of money hitting a “speed limit?”
Factoid: There CC which charge 0% interest for about 24 months, two years. Tough to pay cash when individual interest is 5% in a money market . Sort of an upside world.
Dennis L.
Luton airport has been closed because of a raging fire in a multi-story car park. The firefighters are saying that lots of electric vehicles were involved. But the BBC and other mainstream news outlets are insisting it was caused by a diesel car.
Yeah right. Funny how I can’t ever recall seeing an entire multi-story car park collapsing due to a car fire before :
https://news.sky.com/story/luton-airport-fire-emergency-crews-respond-to-huge-blaze-at-car-park-12981928
maybe a plane full of ayrabs crashed to it
Undamaged passports were found at the scene amongst the ashes of the cark park
what about their covid jabs records?
any clinic appointment details in there?
Of course not, they were all far-right white nationalist anti-vaxxer MAGA extremists
well
definitely an inside job
for weeks, workmen have been seen going in carrying suspicious packages
Norman at last you have come over the side of light.
coulda been a hologram of a plane full of arab holograms of course
Amazing how a plane could crash into a building and come out the other side intact
i never knew that
where did it actually land then?
https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/80118
https://gab.com/polesowa/posts/111048356003408941/media/1?timeline=video
Interesting diversion
Insurance companies will tell the real story in their rates, eventually.
I am guessing all with auto insurance will take a hit.
Value of Tesla is the data, not the cars.
Varoufakis has a book out, “Technofeudalism” which might be worth a read. Basically the ascendancy of information, think Google, Apple, Amazon, etc. Heard him on YouTube, UnHerd channel. Oops, book is not available until 2024.
Thought: We are seeing endless discussions about personal freedom. I see Amish almost daily, freedom to have Sunday off, meet in a home, very much like the religion of the hearth in “The Ancient City.”
Some discussion here regarding ME issue, I am not political. Perhaps too much information, no way to prioritize it, computers are not intuitive. Someone screwed up.
Dennis L.
The data? hahahahaha…
What data is that?
And how many Tesla owners are there to make that set of data worth anything?
Google has the data on every person who searches their site (billions)… that data is valuable because they can sell ads that target what each person is searching for…
Just parroting what you heard on cnbc doesn’t cut it — explain how their data is so valuable
Kinda like with EVs… the MOREONS hear about the massive write offs and repair bills… cuz someone’s had a fender bender that damaged their battery pack…
No big deal – insurance pays for it…
Insurance ain’t stooopid… insurance will right the ship and avoid bankruptcy in the form of much higher premiums for the Delusional MOREONS who think they are saving the planet with their coal powered jalopies…
Now if only insurance would get around to doing the same for the Vaxxers cuz I am underwriting their death and disability premiums…. I reckon anyone who has been vaxxed should be denied life and medical insurance. F789 ya’ll.
Perhaps it began in the battery of a diesel hybrid Range Rover. Such vehicles appear to exist.
Then the MSM wouldn’t be lying, just misleading.
i knew a man that had converted an old land rover to run on charcoal. it did explode once in a while, most entertaining as he lived close to a major airport and the police frequently stopped him. i missed the morning it exploded in a shower of burning charcoal right next to where i lived…the joys of living slightly slab city-esque.
I knew a man with a wooden leg named Smith.
What was the name of his other leg?
i have nothing against your left leg
but neither have you
Good https://apnews.com/article/china-country-garden-property-debt-8cee5b3d24762ef34e1bb056389d27d1
Defaults on Chinese bonds, held by banks around the world, will have an adverse impact on the financial system. Banks will find their capital lower, and their ability to lend lower, and the same time that interest rate requirements are higher than what most borrowers had hoped for. They also find that the selling prices of the bonds they are holding are “under water.” They cannot be liquidated without taking a loss.
Former Olympic Gymnast Mary Lou Retton ‘Fighting for Her Life’ in ICU, Daughter Says
“My amazing mom, Mary Lou, has a very rare form of pneumonia and is fighting for her life,” she wrote in a message on the fundraising page. “She is not able to breathe on her own. She’s been in the ICU for over a week now. Out of respect for her and her privacy, I will not disclose all details. However, I will disclose that she not insured.”
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/former-olympic-gymnast-mary-lou-215335047.html
No insurance?
I wonder if they will dump her out in the parking lot?
VAIDS. 100%
Remdesevir and a ventilator and she’ll be good as new.
Just awful….it’s all about 🤑 and these stress about how they caring…
How ironic!? Here I. The States recently a commercial for Colonial Penn Life Insurance has Mary Lou Retton as a spokesperson in it! To be honest I was taken back when seeing her…she did not look well in it..now it is confirmed.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vcs9yx8xT0U&t=41s
Watching the replay of the Panthers game — the player who collapsed was not hit … he just fell flat on his face… no wonder it’s not easy to find the clip
Are you talking about Zavala? It says he is hospitalized with a neck injury.
That’s a lie – he runs forward to block and does not contact anyone – and collapses to the ground.
Could be long covid
Loads of job openings from this https://t.me/EdwardDowdReal/391
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pcm4fCDQ4dY
Toyota CEO: “Our Ammonia Engine Is The End Of EV’s”
Someone forgot to send the Japanese the “shoot your self in the head” memo.
I’ve been wondering about that myself: ammonia as a hydrogen carrier, nitrogen is abundant, no need for mining, etc. One needs to do the simple calculation on bonding energies between NH3 + O2 versus output N2 and H20, which I haven’t done (I hate chemistry), but clearly they did, or else the engine doesn’t work.
Did I hear someone say … STATUS QUO BAU PARTY TIME until 3023!?
You did indeed. Remember to build your dancefloor with discarded solar panels to “save the environment”.
Party, party, party, not jabby, jabby, jabby.
3023 here we come.
I’m getting my Singularity hat and party poppers ready!
Abundance for all! Doomers need to change their mindset – the greatest resource of all is human ingenuity!
Fail.
We need more CO2 up there! Ammonia is no good.
We are down to .04% OMG.
Plants love CO2; at .02% they struggle, at .015% they are gone.
‘The current global average concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere is 421 ppm as of May 2022 (0.04%). This is an increase of 50% since the start of the Industrial Revolution, up from 280 ppm during the 10,000 years prior to the mid-18th century. The increase is due to human activity.’
We need more CO2 to be used in more activity.
CO2 is the M1, M2 and M3 of our natural world.
‘The velocity of money is the frequency at which one unit of currency is used to purchase domestically- produced goods and services within a given time period. In other words, it is the number of times one dollar is spent to buy goods and services per unit of time. If the velocity of money is increasing, then more transactions are occurring between individuals in an economy.’
A simple and robust “energy carrier” is for sure a good idea! I am not so sure though a new one is needed as the electricity to gasoline technology is already thought through. The problem is it’s inefficiency. But if efficiency comes into play in such an early state of development, I am suspicious the real problem is energy generation.
>> electricity to gasoline technology is already thought through
How so? What’s the carbon source? CO2 and methane are small parts of the atmosphere, so if that’s the source, that’s a problem in a way that ammonia carriers are not.
The carbon can come from industrial processes, “direct capture from the atmosphere” or sewage treatment plants.
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power-to-Gas
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biologische_Methanisierung
The English version is not identical to the German version.
As I understand it, there are thermodynamic limits of efficiency. And that means we would need to create two or three times the energy we can consume in the end.
There should be also energy losses of fossile fuels that we ship around the world.
If the alleged extremely cheap productions costs close to nothing plus subsidies for alternative electricity generation does not allow power-to-gas production at competitive prices there is something wrong!
It seems very problematic to me. If you want to capture CO2 or methane from treatment plants and the like, that’s fairly boutique – the plants vary so you probably need to somewhat redesign the power-to-gas factory for each. Secondly, the inputs are limited to the waste streams from existing processes. Both of these factors limit scaling.
Further, that they mention “direct capture from the atmosphere” as a possibility is a red flag for me, given the very low total concentration of CO2. It tells me they are not thinking seriously, although maybe the problem is just with the person writing the article, who put that stupid entry in with the other possibly more sensible options.
But have enough ammonia, at a low enough price, is already a problem.
Well, prices have come down from last year:
https://businessanalytiq.com/procurementanalytics/index/ammonia-price-index/
ammonia production is dependent on FF.
EVs won’t be caught by this and that’s a low benchmark.
Price is always a two-sided battle. Ammonia can be made with either natural gas or coal. Its price is heavily dependent on the price of these two fuels.
Farmers require a fairly low price for ammonia, for farming to be affordable, and the price of food to be reasonable. At the same time, the costs of producing and shipping natural gas and coal are increasingly under pressure, especially for areas where it needs to be shipped long distance. It is the transport of these fuels that is outrageously expensive. The US has been fairly sheltered from this cost increase because its coal and natural gas are locally produced.
Hasn’t German BASF halvened their ammonia production due to high gas prices recently? And also the UK?
Net zero is the same as a world without fossil fuels. Except it has not yet talked about the great die off due to far less food production.
Net zero is less than hunter-gathers needed. Human population keeps rising. Hunter-gatherers kept killing off big animals and burning down forests, in their quest for more energy to meet the needs of their rising population.
Humans cannot get along on “net zero.”
One might think the spent fuel ponds are a negative… they are a godsend…
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fexternal-preview.redd.it%2FLqOjeV1HT_N_idGZplq2LLEJSzaTyK0Mf6okJwYt7Y4.jpg%3Fauto%3Dwebp%26s%3Dec8dc42546c7aa66d5dc77035e12a48cff3a79a0&rdt=42529
Hunter-gatherer populations did not grow as far as we know. The assumed population data kept very stable. Hunter-gatherers did not burn down wood lands or only on a very little scale.
After the retreat of the ice masses large grasslands established with large mainly bovine animals grazing and fertilizing it. This build up the soil, woods could grow on later – amoung them a high percentage of hazelnut around 5000 years ago, about which there are speculations, that humans helped to it.
Hunter-gatherers were living from hunting and processing large animals, that are mainly extinct now.
During the younger stoneage they had to adapt to living in the woods, which led to smaller weapons and a different hunting technique and a main resource of food was probably fish. A shifting cultivation developed, mainly because without iron tools it was not possible to fight weeds that come up with cultivation.
What you are describing starts in the Middle Ages. The use of charcoal allowed the production of iron and glass and the upcoming of knights that protected the trade. The nobility aimed for luxury goods which increased production. The growing availability of metal tools allowed permanent cultivation, the fence was established and the first modern forests. Population started to grow, even when wars diminuished large parts. A huge overuse of the woods diminished them heavily and it was in the last minute to detect coal as a replacement. The statistics show further population growth.
This as a short overview over the current teachings. Meanwhile they have found slag and mining residue in an ampunt “of industrial scale” close to Salzburg, including division of labour, worker’s protection and international trade that is as has been proven 6000 years old. Make out of it what you think. Ötzi is 5000 years old.
This looks like something out ofMonty Python or the Babylon Bee, but apparently it’s true. And very sensible it sounds too.
UN Calls for Public to Live in Mud Huts to Meet ‘Net Zero’ Goals
By Frank Bergman October 10, 2023
Unelected bureaucrats at the United Nations (UN) are calling for the public to start living in huts made from mud and straw in order to meet the globalist agency’s “Net Zero” goals before the year 2050.
The UN has just released a new report that lays out extreme measures citizens in Western nations will need to endure to comply with the corporate elite’s green agenda.
To meet the target of reaching “zero carbon emissions” before 2050, as dictated by the UN and the World Economic Forum (WEF), the public will need to significantly slash their quality of life and begin to align with the globalist vision of collectivism.
The UN insists that traditionally built homes are no longer acceptable and people will need to start living in huts made from building materials consisting of mud bricks, bamboo, and forest “detritus.”
According to the UN, the world needs to switch to “regenerative material practices.”
These practices involve using “ethically produced” low-carbon earth and bio-based building materials.
Examples include mud bricks, timber, bamboo, and agricultural and forest detritus.
The report harks back to the middle of the last century when the vast majority of cultures built large buildings and cities out of indigenous earthen, stone, and bio-based materials, including timber, cane, thatch, and bamboo.
Contrasting modern concrete, steel, and glass buildings, the United Nations asserts that “massive mud buildings have been maintained for centuries with their structures intact.”
The UN lays out the plans in a recently published report titledBUILDING MATERIALS AND THE CLIMATE: CONSTRUCTING A NEW FUTURE
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cYHq0HDL78xJjo-uWd13bqwZ24Elgz5L/view
No carbon, no life.
Get a life; burn a fossil today.
Does Norman count as a fossil?
Or merely an antique?
a living part of local history
🙂 🙂 🙂
Norm is the best kind of Fossil; plenty of smoke, not too much light.
Smoulders away quite nicely despite being regularly dumped on by torrents of bits and bytes.
norm says he awaits Tim’s posts… I guess he doesn’t really that Tim thinks he’s a buffoon (I am assuming that from Tim’s responses to norm)
I suppose buffoon is an upgrade from MOREON so that would be a win for norm
They did not build large cities. Pre-fossile gatherings are usually not larger than 50.000 inhabitants. The calculation is simple: to transport 100kg of wheat 15kms by ox you need 100kg of wheat as “fuel”, food for the ox (from my memory, I could look up the study). There may be some situations where this does not count, for example in very furtile areas with a good network of waterways.
If we start building cities from mud, the build-up area would be less dense (as we cannot build into the height), and we need more energy for daily transport oof food and people commuting. To carry logs and mud into the cities requires more energy than styropor and steel. Less hygiene may be another problem.
Generally, it is nothing to say against living in mud housings. But they must be on the country side, close to food production and workplace and that means no or less electricity and internet availability so that homeoffice and CBDC cannot work.
With mud huts, expect no electricity, no heat, no running water. Expect a lifestyle, at best, similar to early US settlers who lived in sod huts.
More Mass D.
Early settlers had iron tools and all the technology of the Late Middle Ages, windjammers, axes, rifles, plows, pumps, nails, hinges, kettles, wheels and barrels, looms, watertight leather, industrially produced needles, iron stoves and not to forget later the upcoming railway. Even windows from glass, paper, books and maps, and even surgical instruments and knowledge. It also should be mentioned that resilient plants and seeds were available and resilient and productive cattle – which are today tailored to the needs of a petrochemical agrobusiness.
With the end of BAU all this will be forgotten, because knowledge is traded in books and in processes. Traditional technologies are already now mainly forgotten or in some rare publications that will not survive any crash or cannot be read anymore digitally or because of a lack of knowledge or does nlt make sense because of a missing availability of pre-products.
I don’t know, what early settlers used as lights. I suppose oil lamps?
It is for sure possible to live in mud or soil houses wuth or without provision of areas with more technogy. But it is not possible to exchange the White House or an apartment house in NY with a mud house. The functionality would change and this would lead to another structure, similar to slums, with the danger of fire and the need to transport mud to the locations and people to work as these settlements need more space. The only logic use is as small villages close to worked land. But this is not possible without changes or what I call “preparations” as not even the seeds or cattle or knowledge or experience in handicraft needed for such settlements exist widely today.
The Zionist will kill two million humans in the cage of Gaza. This will be the worlds number one crime against humanity. What can I do? Write a harshly worded letter to my senator?
maybe join one of those “huge” protests?
or go write that letter.
both are equally effective, ha.
All a bit energy intensive.
Just say prayer.
That’s always worked.
The Tory ‘leadership’ has instructed all government buildings to fly the Zionist flag.
> Israeli flag replaced with Palestinian flag on Sheffield town hall
Sheffield writes its own rules.
Smaller city; identifies with the problems of the Palestinians.
🙂
Aptly and often accurately described by Tim Watkins at consciousnessofsheep. He is very preoccupied with the fate of these small locales.
10% Mushlimbs in Sheffield. As the Dalai Lama commented a few years ago, there are far too many of them in Europe. Which modern European would want to follow such a grim and repressive code as they do?
Muslims at 10% begin to impose. Jews at 2% already impose fiercely. How is it that indigenous European majorities waffle between these two terroristic groups, as though there were no alternative but to support one or the other? As though they were a mere needle spinning around based on shifting magnetic fields?
natural gas in Europe soars to $15.39 (converted to USD pricing equivalent).
wow!
For a while, Japan was buying natural gas under long-term contract for a price similar to that.
The oil equivalent price that is similar in heating value to $15.39 for natural gas is $92.34 per barrel of oil. The price is high, but oil prices recently have been high. Brent was $87.79 today. Some of Israel’s natural gas production is being taken off line.
Ruble soars to 95 per USD wow!
https://www.tradingview.com/symbols/USDRUB/
The Intercontinental Exchance (ICE) is Western with headquarters in the US, you need to select a different exchange like MOEX or wherever the Ruble is still actively traded:
https://www.tradingview.com/symbols/USDRUB_TOM/?exchange=MOEX
The Ruble is still around 100, not 95.
thanks, I have updated my link to MOEX.
I take what’s given, or steal ideas, whatever works.
And I will steal your focus on Venezuela! (they can keep BAU PARTY TIME going a while longer, I bet!)
How Pallywood and Hamas TV fulfill their role as a content providers for the very popular political show Culture Clash in the Middle East.
https://fakeotube.com/video/201/pallywood-war-simulation
(Al Arabya)
From ammunitions to Ukraine, to ammunitions to Israel
“First plane carrying US ammo lands in Israel: Military”
https://english.alarabiya.net/News/middle-east/2023/10/11/First-plane-carrying-US-ammo-lands-in-Israel-Military
So now, US ammunition is being used on both sides. How profitable for the US!
“World Leading Scientist” died at 29
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/kirsty-smitten-cancer-death-antibiotics-b2427067.html
Guess she was not that smart after all.
She passed away in hospital with her family beside her on 4 October, having spent the past seven weeks in Birmingham’s Queen Elizabeth Hospital.
Her cancer, cardiac angiosarcoma, was so rare her surgeon had never seen it before. Only two people are diagnosed with it a year in the UK.
How did she come to develop that?, we all wonder. Could it have been the tatoos on her arms?
Well I guess she was one of the two people diagnosed with it every year in the UK. Nothing to see here, move along.
if there isn’t a reason tim
you will find one
retrospectively—of course.
oops.. sorry, you know everything in advance. Wish i did
Well Norman, you know we’ve reached the end of more, so you are ahead of Dennis and Keith when it comes to foresight.
A comment under that story,
“Well my mate died of exactly same cancer earlier this year, so he must have been the other one.
The chemo eventually killed the cancer, but it was all that was holding his heart together, they stopped treatment and he died 2 months later”
So long as the doctors keep getting paid … they will not question the situation
Typical of humans … the Elders know that … everyone has a price. And I do mean EVERY one.
am waiting for my local paper headline:
SHOCK—PATIENT DIDNT DIE OF COVID
Delightful! What a f789ing MORE-ON
Not a civ. I type, she.
This is what passes for rebellion these days hahaha
https://sheldonyakiwchuk.substack.com/p/yakkstack-open-2024-golf-tourney
The myth of affordable green energy is over
Kathryn Porter
Tue, October 10, 2023 at 8:04 AM EDT·
the Telegraph
The pervasive narrative about offshore wind in recent years has been that costs are falling and that wind power is cheap. But scratch below the surface and you find that things are not quite so rosy. Turbine manufacturers have been losing money hand over fist in recent years. Collectively over the past five years the top four turbine producers outside China have lost almost US$ 7 billion – and over US$ 5 billion in 2022 alone. Last year the chief executive of turbine-maker Vestas said that the company lost eight per cent on every turbine sold.
Some of these losses are down to warranty issues – this means the turbines have not performed as expected requiring the manufacturers to compensate windfarm developers and rectify problems. Privately this is attributed to the pressure for ever larger windmills which are harder to get right. Insiders now suggest that the growth in capacity per turbine has peaked, at least for the time being.
But the losses have also been driven by pricing structures designed to win market share, and aggressive windfarm developers who have refused to pay up, often while pocketing billions in subsidies. The market has started to look, if not like a Ponzi scheme, then like a house of cards built on the shakiest of foundations. Turbine producers are all busily re-negotiating contracts and insisting on better terms to stem their losses, otherwise they will simply shift to other, more profitable, activities. This is putting pressure on developers who are now going cap in hand to governments, begging for more subsidies and more tax breaks, all of which must be paid for by tax-payers or bill-payers.
If anyone can draw a huge tree of the whole so-called Green Energy scheme, it is impossible to not see fossil fuel somewhere in there. It was a freeloader on fossil fuels, but other than small scale hydropower (done in some remote areas to get enough power to run radios and lights), none of them are reproducible without FF.
I am suspicious too, that subsidies for alternative energies in fact help to the production of crude oil.
Terrence McKenna said this on 1989
https://www.organism.earth/library/document/evolutionary-importance-of-technology
—these extremely exotic fields, solid-state physics, nanotechnology, and gene transplant, and all this stuff—they feel individually that complete breakthrough in their own field lies just eighteen months, two years, three years in the future. They can see their technological and research (Text sourced from https://www.organism.earth/library/document/evolutionary-importance-of-technology) dreams converging.
(So many good passages from there but I can’t quote them all.)
He clearly expected to see Singularity and Type I civ in his lifetime (He was born in 1946, younger than some people here.)
He said before the Breakthrough the noise will be the greatest.
One fatal mistake, not recognizing Chechnya (which would have broken the Russian Federation into dozens of small statelets, with Ukraine probably getting the seat at the Security Council) , brought the world to this, instead of McKenna’s paradise.
Terrence McKenna:
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Still smokin ‘ dat good stuff Kulm.
Not to forget quantum biology – where DNA is claimed to be altered by waves of all kind. Plays also a role in the 5g discussions. No one knows how far this research has been developed until now.
Incidentally, here In London this morning I received by letter my NHS invitation to get the new anti-COVID and seasonal flu vaccines. The letter went straight in the bin.
The attempt to take you out went wrong this time…
🙂
I hope it will never happen
Yes. I’m due to get my state pension next month, you see. I’ll become a useless eater, life that is unworthy of life! So they want rid of me. 😉
dont worry about it
ive been annoying people and useless eating for 23 years
I’m getting my Japanese state pension from December. But not my British state pension, which I only paid into for five and half years and ten years is the minimum. So you two please enjoy your pittance partly on me.
The Bali bombings of 2002.
A few months after 9/11, and the Bush government was still pursuing its “war against terror”. In 2002 it began pointing the finger at Indonesia as being suspected of harbouring terrorists. Well, before long there was indeed a terrorist incident in Indonesia. How prescient of the Bush government!
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From Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Bali_bombings
At 11:05 p.m. on 12 October 2002, a suicide bomber inside the nightclub Paddy’s Pub, detonated a bomb in his backpack, causing many patrons to immediately flee into the street. Twenty seconds later, a second and much more powerful car bomb hidden inside a white Mitsubishi van was detonated by another suicide bomber outside the Sari Club, a renowned open-air thatch-roof bar located opposite Paddy’s Pub.
Damage to the densely populated residential and commercial district was immense, destroying neighbouring buildings and shattering windows several blocks away. The car bomb explosion left a one metre deep crater.
The local Sanglah Hospital was ill-equipped to deal with the scale of the disaster and was overwhelmed with the number of injured, particularly burn victims. There were so many people injured by the explosion that some of the injured had to be placed in hotel pools near the explosion site to ease the pain of their burns. Many of the injured were forced to be flown extreme distances to Darwin (1,800 km or 1,100 mi) and Perth (2,600 km or 1,600 mi) for specialist burn treatment.
The final death toll was 202, mainly comprising Western tourists and holiday-makers in their 20s and 30s who were in or near Paddy’s Pub or the Sari Club, but also including many Balinese Indonesians working or living nearby, or simply passing by. Hundreds more people suffered horrific burns and other injuries. The largest group among those killed were tourists from Australia with 88 fatalities.
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Here is a video of one of the survivors, an Australian who suffered horrible burns.
‘I could feel my skin melting’: Bali Bombing survivor recounts memories of attack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9E5Ef8-gSqw
Now back to Wikipedia:
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The bomb
The Mitsubishi L300 van bomb was initially thought to have consisted of C4, a military grade plastic explosive which is difficult to obtain. However, investigators discovered the bomb was made from potassium chlorate, aluminium powder, and sulfur. For the Sari club bomb with the L300 van, the terrorists assembled 12 plastic filing cabinets filled with explosives. The cabinets, each containing a potassium chlorate, aluminum powder, sulfur mixture with a TNT booster, were connected by 150 metres (490 ft) of PETN-filled detonating cord. Ninety-four RDX electric detonators were fitted to the TNT. The total weight of the van bomb was 2,250 pounds (1,020 kg). The large, high-temperature blast damage produced by this mixture was similar to a thermobaric explosive, although the bombers may not have known this.
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So the bombers have not have known that they had created a thermobaric explosive!
Read once more about the damage:
“Damage to the densely populated residential and commercial district was immense, destroying neighbouring buildings and shattering windows several blocks away. The car bomb explosion left a one metre deep crater. ”
One investigator that I read claimed that this was a dirty bomb, a mini nuke, which had all the hallmarks of a MOSSAD operation. (MOSSAD is the secret service of Israel, of course). But the Indonesia authorities were now deeply embarrassed that Bush’s claim had come true, allowing him to put political pressure on them.
In the video that follows, one of the arrested suspects admitted that he did indeed plant a bomb, but there was no way it could have caused the immense destruction that followed. Clearly the hapless fellow was a mere patsy for the real perpetrators.
From Wikipedia:
“A comparatively small bomb detonated outside the U.S. consulate in Denpasar, which is thought to have exploded shortly before the two Kuta bombs, caused minor injuries to one person and property damage was minimal. It was reportedly packed with human excrement.”
So maybe that was the one placed by the patsy.
Watch this fascinating video that exposes the lies of the authorities. It discusses other issues first, so start in at the 40 minutes mark for the story of the Bali bombing.
Fool Me Twice by Glen Clancy – East Timor & Bali Bombings – Lies & Cover Ups
Just a routine false flag t’would seem.
Yep. Bush, MOSSAD? What a show!
Thermobaric weapon? Mini-nuke? Indonesia’s 9/11?
From Haaretz:
The Israeli newspaper Ma’ariv on Wednesday reported that Likud leader Benjamin Netanyahu told an audience at Bar Ilan university that the September 11, 2001 terror attacks had been beneficial for Israel.
“We are benefiting from one thing, and that is the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq,” Ma’ariv quoted the former prime minister as saying. He reportedly added that these events “swung American public opinion in our favor.”
https://www.economist.com/democracy-in-america/2008/04/16/did-israel-benefit-from-the-9/11-attacks
What a fine fellow Netanyahu is, eh? Just as well that Israel had nothing to do with 9/11, eh?
Just for some easier viewing.
This guy seems like a sort of hippy, and I don’t follow him, but stumbled upon him and gave him a listen. He makes some good points. Those who think they can survive via homesteading in the desert like Las Vegas or Arizona are in for a rude awakening.
He gets down to the fact that Saudi Arabia is also sadly mistaken if they think they are going to complete their Wonder City in the sand. There is no water, and the Gulf of Aquaba from which ( he states) they draw their water for desalinization, is getting more salty, because they draw salty water, desalinize it, and then pump the concentrated brine right back into the Gulf.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hknKjHVABI8 starts @ 3:35
Then there’s Joe Brown of Heresy Financial whom I watch on You Tube but do not subscribe to, who seems to be increasingly addressing the issue of energy. He was at the Silver Symposium a week ago in Las Vegas, and I am sure he heard Steve St Angelo’s of srsroccoreport.com (paywall) breakfast talk there about the divergent NG prices which had been dropping over the summer but may have turned up slightly recently, and the contrasting inexorable rising price in crude oil and approaching energy cliff, although it’s arrival always seems to be postponed.
Joe Brown’s video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIKjqW8_Ssc
Joe says green energy has not decreased our use and need for fossil fuels.
Talks about the controversy of nuclear energy, espouses its demonstrated safety record relative to other sources. Talks about the future may be in small power units like what are on nuclear powered ships. Talks about ATHA in central Canada – a big potential Uranium supplier lots of land, no debt etc., except no uranium as of yet has been pulled out of the ground.
Uranium has a long lead time, and it needs a lot of processing before it is ready for use. I wouldn’t count on it anytime soon.
Keeping US natural gas prices high enough for producers is a big problem.
https://www.eia.gov/naturalgas/weekly/
If you scroll down on this page, there is a chart of natural gas prices at Henry Hub. They were briefly down below $2.00 per million Btu; recently, they have been almost up to $3.00 per million Btu. Either of these prices is very low. They would like higher prices, say $6 or $7 per million Btu.
I would expect that all of the “associated gas” from Tight oil (shale) is adding to supply, suppressing prices. No one really wants this associated gas. It costs money to collect, but it never amounts to very much. Without laws, oil and gas companies would simply flare it (burn it off).
Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen tried to calm markets amid a massive US bond rout.
She told the Financial Times she sees no “evidence of market dysfunction” after the spike in yields.
Last week’s jobs data was “impressive” but not a sign of an overheating labor market, Yellen added.
Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen tries to calm markets amid historic US bond collapse
Aruni Soni Oct 9, 2023, 3:11 PM EDT
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/bonds/treasury-bond-crash-janet-yellen-calm-markets-yields-fed-rates-2023-10
Seemed to remember back in 2008 the same being proclaimed…imagine that
“In fact, long-dated Treasurys have lost 46% since March 2020, with the 30-year bond down 53%, according to Bloomberg data.”
Not a good situation for those depending on the value of the bond.
Russian sources say that forces linked to Iran, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon and Yemen are preparing for involvement in the Palestine conflict and for a long war with Israel. A joint command room is being created and forces are gathering to the Golan Heights (Syria). USA bases will be attacked across the region if it involves itself.
If so then the Palestinian operation was the opening salvo that has rallied support and this is the calm before the storm as the pro-Palestine forces in the region organise themselves for a major and sustained conflict. We will have to wait and see what happens.
You can see a map of the region here: https://www.infoplease.com/sites/default/files/i_infopls_com/images/mapmiddleeast.gif Israel is clearly an isolated outpost of an outside power and it is likely only a matter of time before the region asserts itself.
https://warnews247.gr/sfodres-sygkrouseis-sto-livano-protes-voles-atgm-kornet-enantion-merkava-peftoun-vomves-fosforou-chezbolach-kai-iranoi-frouroi-sygkentronoun-dynameis-sto-gkolan/
Hezbollah and Iranian Guards open front against Israel in Golan – Fierce fighting in Lebanon: ATGM Kornet fires against Merkava – Phosphorus bombs fall
Iranian Guards, Hezbollah and Shiite militias form joint staff
A major military mobilization is being seen in Syria, Iraq and Lebanon as Hezbollah and Iranian Guard forces gather and take up fighting positions near the Golan Heights.
At the same time, Abu Ala al-Walai, commander of the Iraqi Shia militia “Kataeb Saiyed al Shohada”, arrived in Beirut.
There, according to information, a joint command room of Hamas, Hezbollah and the Iraqi Shiite militias, a “war room”, will be created.
We remind you that Hamas has announced a “general mobilization on Friday in the Arab and Islamic world”.
Hamas in its invitation to which it does not give more content calls on Arabs and Muslims to show their solidarity with the Palestinians and their “resistance” on Friday.
According to a Hamas spokesman who spoke to the Guardian, the armed organization “is ready for a long war with Israel.”
Hezbollah and Iranian Guards are massing forces in the Golan Heights
Iranian Guard and Hezbollah forces are massing in Syria on the Golan Heights.
According to Russian sources, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps and Hezbollah are moving forces and weapons into Syria, taking up fighting positions in the Golan Heights.
Hezbollah has declared a state of maximum combat readiness, but has yet to launch combat operations.
IRGC and Hezbollah units are stationed in Daraa and Quneitra provinces in readiness for an attack from the Golan Heights. Missiles and drones were deployed in Syria along with personnel.
Iraqi Shiite groups are also on alert.
According to some military experts, “the IRGC and Hezbollah have adopted a wait-and-see approach, and further actions will depend on what the United States does in this situation. If the Americans intervene in the conflict on the side of Israel, Palestine will receive their support.”
In fact, this was stated by the head of the Iraqi organization Badra, Hadi al-Amiri. According to him, if the US intervenes, all US military bases in the country will be attacked.
“If Washington intervenes in the struggle between the Israeli regime and Palestine, we will hit all American bases,” he said to his supporters.
The Houthis of Yemen made the same statement. They are also waiting for Washington’s decision and are threatening a new regional war.
The leader of Yemen’s Shiite Iran-backed Houthi movement, Abdel Malek al-Houthi, has warned that if the United States intervenes directly in the Gaza war, his organization will respond with missiles, drones and “other military options”, as he said.
“There are red lines when it comes to Gaza,” he said, adding that the Houthis are ready to coordinate their actions with other organizations and intervene.
Hezbollah-Israeli Army battles in Lebanon
Fierce clashes have erupted on the border between Israel and Lebanon between Hezbollah and Israeli forces.
Israeli Merkava Mark lV tanks reportedly opened fire and destroyed two observation posts in South Lebanon used by Hezbollah.
Hezbollah then hit an Israeli tank with a Kornet guided missile, two security sources in Lebanon told Reuters.
Hezbollah confirmed in a statement that it hit a Merkava tank with two Kornet anti-tank missiles in the Marun al-Ras area.
Later, an attack helicopter, probably an Apache, hit a Hezbollah observation post after an anti-tank missile was fired from Lebanese territory at a military vehicle in the Avivim area.
Israel is reportedly bombing Hezbollah positions with phosphorus bombs.
Woohoo! ‘Ere we go ‘ere we go ‘ere we go go go’.
Which side are the Millwall FC Ultras on? That’s the key military issue.
First team to sink a US Carrier gets a bonus prize.
“Which side are the Millwall FC Ultras on?”
I asked and they said anyone but Tottenham.
Get your brown paper bag ready…. this is Beyond Delightful
Seems an NFLer or two get whacked every week by the Rat Juice these days….
https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/p/panthers-chandler-zavala-collapsed
Everyone is waiting to see if Hezbollah (an Iran-related militia in Lebanon) enters the fray in Palestine.
The view published on Pravda (a Russian state site) is that Iran should get on with it and achieve serious territorial and sovereignty gains for Palestinians. Iran can thus assume a leadership role in the region, unite it against Israel and distance Saudi and the region from USA.
There seems to be a narrative in the west that USA would obliterate Iran if it stepped out of line but we have seen many countries stand up to USA hegemony without that outcome and indeed USA defeats in the Middle East and elsewhere.
Russia seems to be all for it.
“With backers such as Iran and Qatar, the Palestinians undoubtedly have a chance to gain independence and win its territory. It’s now or never.”
https://english.pravda.ru/world/157866-palestine_israel_iran/
It’s now or never moment for Palestine and Iran
In their struggle for territories, the Donbass counts on Russia, Azerbaijan counted on assistance from Turkey, whereas the Palestinians expect Iran and Qatar to come for help.
Palestinians declare war on Israel again
It was Iran and Qatar (indirectly) that supported Operation Al-Aqsa Storm of the Hamas movement that controls the Gaza Strip, part of Palestine.
Let us recall that Israel opposes the creation of the Arab state of Palestine on the territory that that was the UN assigned to it in 1947. Over the years, Israel has been pursuing the policy of Jewish nationalism creating its own country, killing and oppressing those who wanted to live in the independent Palestine.
The Arabs tried to defend their rights, but in 1967 and 1973 they lost wars and territories to Israel. They managed to keep only two enclaves — the Gaza Strip and the West Bank. The UN sees them as Israel-occupied territories, as is East Jerusalem, the capital of Palestine.
The interests of the Palestinians are obvious today but what are the interests of Iran?
Iran and Palestine despise Israel
Iran fiercely despises the Zionist regime and its overseas patron, the US. Suffice it to say that Tehran celebrated the Hamas attacks on Israel with fireworks, whereas members of the Iranian Parliament were chanting: “Death to America.” Iran still wants to take revenge on imperialists and oppressors for the killing of their leader Qasem Soleimani.
In addition, Iran is happy to see its successes in terms of the activities of pro-Iranian groups in Syria and its strike drone sales to Russia. Undoubtedly, Iran supplied its UAVs to Hamas.
One may assume that the Iranians also trained the Palestinians in the experience of modern warfare, taking into account the war in Syria and Ukraine (PMC Wagner could also be involved in that work). Tehran knows how to conduct proxy wars. The Palestinians have nothing to lose as they live the lives of the oppressed.
Hezbollah more powerful and organized than Hamas
Iran also has its own military force, the Hezbollah movement. It is stationed in the south of Lebanon and has experience in the war in Syria.
Hezbollah boasts precision-guided missiles that may reach any corner of the Israeli territory. In 2021, Hezbollah leader Sayed Hassan Nasrallah said that the group counted 100,000 fighters.
On Sunday morning, Hezbollah shelled three military posts in Israeli-occupied Shebaa territories in southern Lebanon. An IDF radar station was hit.
If Israel invades Gaza, Hezbollah will enter Israel from the north and create a second front. The IDF may not be able to organise defence.
Iran chose the right moment
Iran has an open window of opportunity because sanctions on Iranian oil have been lifted and one may not expect them to be imposed again given the embargo and the price cap on Russian oil. The conflict in the Middle East will only drive oil prices up, which is also beneficial for Iran.
Tehran wants to be the leader in the region. This is a self-sufficient sovereign country that managed to establish relations with Saudi Arabia to usher in the “post-American era.” Riyadh [Saudi] is also ambitious about implementation of the Vision 2030 reform program that can only be achieved by normalising relations with Iran and Israel.
Iran does not need the latter. After Saudi Arabia suffered a defeat in Yemen, Tehran does not view the Saudis as a strong rival.
Israel will thus again become the common enemy of the Arabs, and Iran wants this to happen too.
Qatar as Palestine’s sponsor
As for Qatar, this country is a source of financial support for Hamas. Qatar’s Foreign Ministry said that Israel bears sole responsibility for the ongoing escalation due to persistent violations of the rights of the Palestinian people, including the recent repeated incursions into Al-Aqsa Mosque under the protection of Israeli police.”
With backers such as Iran and Qatar, the Palestinians undoubtedly have a chance to gain independence and win its territory. It’s now or never.
Some price to pay for having Mossad involved in Ukraine. And, while I expect Israel to “win” while killing a lot of people, I hesitate to state it strongly since last time they were at war (2006) they lost.
Of course, if the military wants war funding in the US, it needs to have a “popular war” to fight. The Ukraine war was getting less and less popular, as it became clear it was costing a lot of money and going nowhere.
Supporting Israel has the support of two important factions in the US:
–The “Religious Rights,” who see Israel as being important for Christ’s second coming.
–Jews, and the big organizations controlled by Jews.
With support of at least some Republicans and some Democrats, it might be possible to elect a Speaker of the House of Representatives, and also get funding for a new war against Israel (as well as funding for ongoing programs).
I am not certain this would actually work, but many people would want to try it.
“funding for a new war against Israel”
Yes, that’s the way to go. 80% of the world populations would really respect the U.S for the first time, rather than just faining it for the money they can take.
Are you running for office?
I suppose better wording would be, “funding to support Israel in its war efforts.”
Gail, the ‘Religious Rights’ you mention (that I guess are Christians, maybe Protestants), in my view, should be aware that Jews often spit to Christians in Jerusalem (it is full of these episodes on Israeli newspapers) and they should also be aware that in Palestine there are a lot of Christians who are normally ignored or badly treated by Western people.
There are actually Christians there like the Palestinian journalist who died under Israeli fire, Shereen Abu Aqleh.
I wonder if these ‘religious rights’ people really ignore all that (and. in my view, it is a problem for US) or if they know all that and decide to ignore it (and it is again, in my view, a problem for US).
Because the result is for us to see the presence and support we could receive by Christians reducing and reducing in that area…
For the second group it is normal that it is like that, also in Italy happens.
think of centuries of illtreatment of jews by christians
it should come as no surprise
And that doesn’t want to let believe that all Jews hate Christians, because it is not true at all of course, but that we forget the presence of Christians in Palestine and that some Jews, sometime, don’t see positively Christians in that area.
It is enough to read Israeli newspapers to know that.
I don’t think that the belief people of the Religious Right has anything to do with how the Jews treat them. It is a view related to an idea about how/when the Second Coming of Jesus will occur.
Since I am not part of the Religious Right, I may be missing things.
Is it possible the US is broke both financially and materially? The intellectual side seems a bit light as well.
An aircraft carrier without bullets may well just be a target.
There is a story about a very strong gorilla, stronger than any other who became a PIA for all concerned. Two lesser gorillas grabbed one arm each and tore them off.
We have too many elites who have never made anything nor run an organization which made things and needed cooperation among its members. Position papers and policy papers are overhead.
American did not win any wars after WWII, but to date there have not been any WW, that is not all bad.
It is time for America, US, to fix itself and let the world be.
The band is playing “Forty Miles of Bad Road.”
Dennis L.
Agreed: “It is time for America, US, to fix itself and let the world be.”
Again in these threads, the mistake is being made, of regarding “America, US” to be a country in charge of itself.
I strongly concur…..blue collars and unemployed should immediately tear the arms off of all professionals, corporate and government members.
I am sure that covers most members that need their members removed.
Saudi oil giant Aramco announces pilot project to suck CO2 out of the air, but some scientists are skeptical
OCT 9 2023 2:10 PM EDT
Rebecca Piccolo
Aramco is partnering with Siemens Energy AG to develop a small-scale direct air capture “test unit,” which is set to be finished in 2024.
Direct air capture, or DAC, works by extracting carbon dioxide from the atmosphere and converting it into solid or liquid forms to be stored underground.
Some experts say that DAC is too expensive and yields too little results to be a viable carbon reduction strategy.
Maxim Shemetov | Reuters
Saudi oil giant Aramco on Monday announced a partnership with Siemens Energy AG to develop a small-scale direct air capture “test unit” in an attempt to manage emissions.
The test unit will be built in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia, and finished in 2024, according to a statement from Aramco.
Direct air capture, or DAC, works by extracting carbon dioxide that has already been emitted into the atmosphere. The extracted CO2 can then be condensed into solid stone-like formations or liquefied to be stored underground.
DAC is the most expensive method of carbon capture, according to the International Energy Agency. It’s generally cheaper to remove CO2 at the source, before it’s emitted into the air.
The big price tag attached to DAC along with questions of its efficacy have made some climate scientists skeptical of its viability as a long-term emissions reduction strategy.
“From a physics point of view, we just made the problem thousands of times harder,” said Jonathan Foley, who leads the climate solutions nonprofit Project Drawdown. “Imagine trying to remove 400 things out of a million and do it in the air. Then, efficiently liquefy this stuff and put it below ground. That’s a huge engineering marvel … to do it at the scale of billions of tons is science fiction right now.”
Foley added that DAC machines themselves take a lot of energy to get running, which eats away at whatever carbon reduction they do achieve.
But despite obstacles to scaling DAC, many companies, especially tech giants, are pouring investments into developing the technology. For example, Amazon announced last month that it would provide funding for the world’s largest deployment of DAC, and a coalition of tech companies led by Stripe has launched a public benefit company called Frontier to invest in carbon-capture startups and projects.
Extracting carbon from the atmosphere is attractive to companies with large carbon footprints, because it would allow them to keep emitting with a reversal mechanism after the fact.
“Fossil fuel companies would love to be able to keep emitting from fossil operations while offsetting those emissions via cost-effective direct air capture projects — that’s kind of a perfect world for them, if they can get there,” said Cara Horowitz, the executive director of UCLA’s Emmett Institute on Climate Change and the Environment.
“And even if they can’t get there, investing in the development of DAC allows them to tout efforts to achieve net-zero goals in ways that don’t involve reducing use of fossil fuels.”
So far, experts say, the technology is unproven at scale.
“I would love a machine like this to actually work. Wouldn’t that be great? You just turn on a machine that sucks everything out of the sky,” said Foley. “But sorry, it’s a lot easier not to emit it than it is to take it back out again. That’s just thermodynamics.”
The DAC collaboration between Aramco and Siemens Energy is still in early phases.
A Siemens Energy spokesperson told CNBC that once the test unit is complete next year, the companies will consider taking the technology into an official pilot phase. Only after that would they pursue scaling it commercially.
Given DAC’s adolescence, both oil companies are invested in other clean energy technology projects.
The Siemens spokesperson said the company has invested in hydrogen, wind, nuclear fusion and others. Meanwhile, Aramco also has projects in hydrogen and geothermal energy.
Correction: This article has been updated to reflect the correct name of UCLA’s Emmett Institute on Climate Change and the Environment.
If a country wants to increase demand for its energy products and make it look like it is doing something for the environment, there is an unending list of things that theoretically “might work.” But the possibility of any of these things being at all helpful is very low.
Siemens is FUBAR .
https://www.evwind.es/2023/10/09/siemens-energy-considers-shutting-down-siemens-gamesa-factories-to-reduce-losses/94408
I love it. The “green” energy fairytale is coming to an end.
Now we just need cnnbbc to air American Moon … followed by never before seen Interviews with the Men Who Killed JFK – featuring papa Bush
The world is just a bomb away from collapse . All the Iranians have to do is sink a VLCC and all insurance goes into ” force majeaure ” . Washington is desperately trying not to invove Teheran , just like NATO said no missiles landed in NATO terriotery from Russia while Zelensky was goading NATO to apply article 5 . The question still is , why now ?
https://images.dailykos.com/images/1231502/story_image/RevNineMeals.png?1695667392
Is this posted earlier ?
https://diannemarshallreport.com/israels-most-intriguing-war-photo/
Strange! With AI, photos are often constructed from multiple images. Here it seems to be telling us that the event is a false flag event. But we have no idea where this photo came from. The person creating the post could have made it himself, giving his view of the situation.
if one open the first picture in another page and then makes a zoom of it, one understands that it is a fake picture.
It is enough looking at its details.
There’s a saying that goes like this … I know half of my advertising budget is wasted… but I don’t know which half…
We know a great deal (most?) if what we are told — is false…. but they have become so good at faking stuff that it is often difficult to determine what is real and false.
Case in point — listen to this young girl give testimony:
https://youtu.be/hExlqV-fsP8?t=26
It appears to be real… but it is not … she is essentially a crisis actor… an amateur… yet very convincing … she should get an Academy Award for this… brilliant acting
In all the best atrocity stories, invaders are always throwing babies out of incubators.
And before incubators were invented, they used to impale babies on their bayonets.
I wouldn’t put it past people to stoop to any low of depravity, either in being cruel to others or in telling the most incredible unbelievable stories of other people’s cruelty.
And that includes injecting anyone gullible enough to believe they need vaccination to prevent the latest designer flu with toxins that will make them seriously ill. I wouldn’t put that past some people at all.
Call them a dog and you can kill them.
I see that all the trained puppies here are jumping up and barking at the new issue, with no questions asked.
Have you wondered if this is just another psyop? See:
https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/p/with-this-latest-psy-op-pushing-everybodys
http://mileswmathis.com/isra.pdf
Everybody is gonna drool over all the dead and maimed (Kulm first of all) while Israel (which is USA) will kill another million brown people because of Israel’s “9/11”.
Ordinary people are evil, always were, always will be.
I quoted Mathis before
This is a big distraction, to take people’s mind away from the current hardship
Do you ever wonder if it’s you that’s being distracted?
You may be proved correct, but your inability to see it as any more than your masters want you to see, makes you extremely easy to fool. I’m rather amazed that so many who consider themselves savvy to media manipulation, can’t consider that what the media(who owns them?) tell you might be a huge distortion of reality.
Let’s wait a week or two and see what happens.
None of us are immune from being fooled.
It isn’t easy to see the entire elephant.
I for one would never claim that I can do that, even though I have seen farther than most because I’ve stood on the shoulders of giraffes.
Have you ever seen a cat running after the red dot made by a laser pointer?
You can keep a young cat amused for hours and give it plenty of exercise by waving a laser beam around and watching as the cat chases it here and there.
In this little fable, the media is the laser pointer, the spot is the stories, the general public is the cat, and the guy doing the pointing is TPTP, the Elders, the Masters, THEY, or whoever else is running the show in the background.
It’s only the Normans of this world and the Keiths of other worlds who seems to believe that the laser beam moves around all on its own, or that the spot on the wall it generates is actually not a spot at all but a firefly.
As for the Mirrors of this world, they are having such a fine time chasing the spot around, that they don’t stop to think about whether it’s real or not.
You’re not wrong there Tim. When I read thinks like the below, I have to wonder.
“Israel and the US will attempt to free the approximately 150 hostages held by Hamas in tunnels in the Gaza Strip. This is a historic mission with a high degree of risk.
The operation is expected to begin as soon as the Israeli Headquarters established specifically for this purpose locates the exact location of the hostages.
To this end, US Special Operations teams and Intelligence Agents arrived in Israel as Advisors to assist Israeli forces in rescuing the hostages in Gaza once the ground invasion began.”
https://warnews247-gr.translate.goog/istoriki-apostoli-koini-epicheirisi-ipa-israil-gia-tin-diasosi-ton-150-omiron-dynami-delta-seal-team-6-kai-shayetet-13-tha-boun-stin-kardia-tis-gazas/?_x_tr_sl=el&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en
It’s always advisable to to let your enemy know what you plan to do.
I’m off to look at Martyanov’s blog and see if it triggers me 😁
The MOREONS are so easily played… the PR Team counts on it
No-one knows who to blame with respect to war-like activities. “The first casualty of war is truth,” is a very old saying. This link gives several predecessors.
https://www.theguardian.com/notesandqueries/query/0,5753,-21510,00.html
“Samuel Johnson seems to have had the first word: ‘Among the calamities of war may be jointly numbered the diminution of the love of truth, by the falsehoods which interest dictates and credulity encourages.’ (from The Idler, 1758)”
Although frequently attributed to Sun Tzu (544496 BC), “All warfare is based on deception”; the Sun Tzu quote actually refers to methods of subterfuge in war and goes further to explain, “Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.” The first corroborated quote reflecting the true essence, almost verbatim is “In war, truth is the first casualty,” attributed to Greek writer/poet Aeschylus (525BC – 456BC).
fascinating
just as well i’m extraordinary then
If everyone can be evil … maybe evil needs to be redefined.
This is our default setting. We are ok with industrial farming and animal experimentation. Why not kill a million brown (or white) people? What’s the difference?
The reason the world ended up like this is because we treated lower class humans too well, just because they walked with two legs.
Lower class humans should have been denied humanity, killing them should not have been treated as murder but as a property damage, and like the movies of Eugen Bauer (a pre revolutionary Russian director, whose entire collection of movies were seized by the Bolsheviks and locked for a century) , someone of a higher class killing a lower class person would not be prosecutable.
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https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/nord-stream-20-finland-estonia-undersea-pipeline-baltic-has-been-deliberately-damaged
Nord Stream 2.0? Finland-Estonia Undersea Pipeline In Baltic “Has Been Deliberately Damaged”
Who did it?
The article ends (without directly saying who did it) by saying:
Nord Stream 2.0? Trivial as far as the impact on oil prices/futures compared to this Hamas attack. Just more deception to confuse people about the Hamas attack on Israel, which I don’t care what people say, Egypt had been warning Israel of this forthcoming sneak attack on 50th anniversary of the 1973 Yom Kippur war.
The US knew of the impending Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. The US knew about 9-11 in advance. It’s the same old same old.
I mean, how f*cking stupid do you have to be to believe that the Mossad, which has its cameras, microphones, spy satellites, spies everywhere did not know about this Hamas attack?
A false flag if I ever saw one.
How can one know that the story is even true? We have to rely on bbccnn… (Safe and Effective purveryor)
Once a liar… always a liar
From the point of Finland, the lack of pipeline gas is not a good deal. They have to take their chances with the availability and price of LNG. They have no storage for natural gas of their own, other than from a recently leased floating LNG terminal.
Piped natural gas has historically been a whole lot less expensive than LNG also.
I agree that Finland is small. Finland has other problems with electricity, also. It tried to add nuclear, and the combination of intermittent resources (particularly hydro) and nuclear created negative prices for its nuclear generation.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/finland-went-from-energy-shortage-to-negative-power-prices-heres-how-they-did-it
If a country has stored natural gas supply, it can be used to match increases and decreases in demand. In Finland, I would expect the big demand to be during winter. In spring, there tends to be a lot of snow melt, so no extra electricity is needed.
“The US knew about 9-11 in advance.”
The US at high levels should have known about 9-11 but I don’t think you can make a case for that they did. In retrospect, bunch of guys learning to fly but not land 767s should have been a tip off. The investigation into how the US failed was amazing.
“attack on Pearl Harbor”
Another case of intelligence failure.
But it is worth noting that you seldom hear of cases where intelligence worked well. Signal intercepts near the end of the war with Japan determined that an invasion would have been a disaster because Japan had moved huge numbers of troops into the invasion path.
LNG is such a complex operation and subject to single point failure . The EU is stupid to poke Putin .
” LNGGUY
IGNORED
10/09/2023 at 7:16 am
Most world scale LNG facilities are structured around long term contracts, especially in the US. It’s very difficult and risky to shut down production at a liquefaction facility – once all the piping and heat exchangers are cold you want to keep them that way to avoid thermal shock on the steel due to expansion/contraction during temperature cycles. Ergo production doesn’t really change much day to day over the course of a year. Mostly you just produce flat out for a given ambient temperature. The shippers have to show up and provide ships or else they take big hits due to contract fines.
Once on the ship they can get rerouted due to spot pricing arbitrage based on local shortages or severe cold snaps but the export facilities don’t care about that, it’s a shipper problem. The facilities just keep producing flat out and expect a ship to show up on time so they can load it. “
It is a wonder that the system works at all.
Natural gas prices are terribly volatile because it is difficult to store enough, and have pipelines big enough, to handle big shifts in demand because of very cold weather or very hot weather.
The cost of shipping gas as LNG is often more than the the initial cost of natural gas production.
An ominous look-back
Oil, Smoke and Mirrors
https://www.bitchute.com/video/dOMGbLD72uDt/
A 2021 movie featuring Richard Heinberg and several others. The ending shows a man that I don’t recognize claiming that 9/11 was planned to be a much bigger event than it turned out to be. There was a possibility of Bush being assassinated, for example, but this didn’t work out. It started a war on Terror.
The man is Webster Tarpley. This documentary film was actually released in 2007. I saw it years ago, but it is still highly relevant today.
”hindsight planning”
is the easiest way to plan anything, the world is full of hindsight planners.
it rarely, if ever, has any substance
“the world is full of hindsight planners.
it rarely, if ever, has any substance”
That’s because the world is full of jolly decent, dutiful and naive fellows like you, isn’t it, dear Norman? 😉
well zemi
continue to retroplot 9/11 if you must.
there must be several hundred hindsight plans linked to it by now
which is your personal favourite?
do let me know—it might even be one i’ve never heard of.
or maybe covid?
hundreds of retroplots on that too—got any fresh ones?
Wars also have a retroplot for every wannabe warrior….when there is only one reason for war, that is desire for someone else’s resources.
Maybe you have another?—do share it.
There’s a hole in your bucket, dear Norman, dear Norman.
There’s a hole in your bucket, dear Norman, a hole.
You cannot hold water with that sort of thinking.
You cannot hold water, Dear Norman, with that.
Some people are foresight planners.
William Cooper comes to mind.
Georgia: the nuclear power provides reliable energy for car manufacturing
https://qz.com/why-america-s-biggest-ev-projects-are-in-southern-state-1850588290
There is also less unionization in the South, as the article points out.
I would expect that in Georgia (especially South Georgia), a relatively high proportion of the workers would be Black. Living costs are low. These workers often don’t expect high wages.
https://www.ruralhealthinfo.org/charts/22
(Al Jazeera + Al Arabya + Al Mayadeen)
Trying to be an alien who read our western newspapers and therefore technically speaking, I would say that I don’t see the difference of killing civilians with machine guns and killing civilians with bomb from above.
The death toll among civilians in Palestine is about 700.
And of this 140 are children !!!
Gaza strip has been closed with water, food and energy.
Again, being an alien (as I feel now), I don’t see any differences among dead civilians of different Religions and, if there is someone who still incredibly makes such a difference, it could be useful to know that in Palestine there are also Christians.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2023/10/10/israel-hamas-war-live-appeals-for-safe-corridor-gaza-toll-goes-past-700
https://english.alarabiya.net/News/middle-east/2023/10/10/Israel-bombs-200-targets-in-Gaza-in-overnight-strikes-
https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/israel-massacres-704-including-journalists-in-overnight-airs
It seems like the actions Israel is taking will make Moslem nations around the world angry. It looks very much like they are trying to kill all of the Gaza population, including women and children.
A Professor of a Middle Eastern University talked yesterday evening on Al Jazeera tv (I don’t remember the name, I will try to find who he is).
He made what seemed to be a rational, calm and cold analysis on the situation, of course from his point of view.
He said the following:
1) the first Israeli objective could be to cause such a big disaster in Gaza to stimulate to open the border in the south with Egypt and have thousands of civilians flee out like refugees.
Those refugees will be then moved in other Countries (perhaps European) or Arabs or stay there in camps, like it happens with Lebanon and avoid to let them come back in Gaza, in order to finally conquer also that territory.
2) the second objective could be to stimulate a big reaction among surrounding Countries that could not stand still only watching that massacre, in order to drag US in a war against Iran.
From my side I don’t know if Iran will like a war there, but I think that a war in Iran could create a bigger problem for all us than the current war in Ukraine.
a huge proportion of Palestinians are actually just kids, 0–14 years is 44.1% of the population og Gaza, according to wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_State_of_Palestine
so the IDF and the war-mongering politicians of the empire of lies are all about bombing 7 year olds being a righteous and splendid thing.
The birth rates of both Palestine and Israel are both very high. Palestine’s lifetime average births per mother in 2019 was 3.64; the corresponding number for Israel was 3.22, according to UN 2022 estimates. Both amounts have been coming down.
Some people have suggested that the countries want to outcompete each other for population (or to better make war against each other). This is an incredibly stupid thing to do in a small area without enough water or energy supplies.
It is
It is preventing further damage
When a child from an inner city dies, the jargon is ‘one less future felon’.
Gail, are you stupid or evil?
You keep removing any posts that (for example) criticize known fascist Norman, but you let Norman pos. Even worse, you let this one through – after all, it’s only glorifying child murder.
I am glad I rarely spend any time here. Despite your nice old lady facade, you are a “good German”.
I want to have a balance of commenters. There is a limit to the “picking on Norman” that I will put up with.
My background is 100% Norwegian. I am neutral.
lol beer
people disagree with me all the time, i smile and move on. i can’t be picked on. If a mosquito bites me, i bear no animosity towards the mosquito, it needs me to feed off. Nothing more than that. I quite enjoy reading what people think.
i mainly read posts at random, choosing to read those i know are from people of accredited intellect, irrespective of whether it conflicts with my opinions or not.
Tim Groves, Keith Henson, Gail and a few others.
I couldn’t possibly read them all. My dwindling years you know? Time is precious.
You were a random pick.
that is what ‘debate ‘ is all about, in case you hadn’t grasped the subtle nuances of it.
You note, I hope that Gail let your post through. Despite your crass insults. Ouch.
Why?
Because it reveals your own nature of intolerance for everyone to see. Your words diminish yourself. Not her. Or me. A few others on OFW have the same verbal ineptitude. (4 number cusswords is intellect?)
I have obviously disagreed with you at some point—don’t know when….therefore I must be a fascist. I disagree with eddy—therefore I must be a p’do. There have a few other choice descriptions too. Amusing.
but it’s called thinking for oneself–right or wrong.
you should try it sometime
Not a pedo rather you are the pied piper who lead the grand kids to the extermination camp
I vote to allow all posts that take the p. iss of norm
hmm
there must be a hole in my mosquito net.
but as i said, one cannot bear animosity towards the mosquito, they do what they do, because they do not possess the mental capacity to do anything else.
a critter, like any other, with the sole function of being a food source to bigger critters, and a nuisance to even bigger critters.
i can offer you no other career path eddy.
And Super Snatch thinks she is a super model…
Wow, Norman, comparing Eddy to a mosquito….
I bet that stung.
i would have said midge—but they really are annoying—and they arrive mob handed
whereas mosquitoes make that distinctive whine when they approach—so you always know when one is nearby..
so my description seemed to be apt
unless you have a better one??
But you like the prick of the needle… don’t you norm… keeps you Safe… and Effective!!!
//////But you like the prick of the needle… don’t you norm… keeps you Safe… and Effective!!!//////
as your friend SS often says to me, eddy,
”little pricks have one thing in common
they spend so much time talking about it….
the doing of it is over so ‘fast’, I hardly have time to fake it.”
My guess is that Gail doesn’t have the time or the inclination to do heavy moderation.
Also—big issue you may not have considered or been aware of up to now—despite this being a finite world, there are no universal standards of rightspeak, wrongspeak, politespeak, rudespeak, hatespeak, lovespeak, freespeak, payspeak, bannedspeak or permittedpeak.
An internet meeting place isn’t like your local pub or town hall meeting in that respect.
Indeed, there is no decorum at the forum, because there is no consensus on what decorum would entail.
no decorum at the forum—i like that
or—-infamy infamy they’ve all got it infamy
Actually, those two puns do have something in common.
From memory,”infamy infamy they’ve all got it infamy” was said by Kenneth Williams in Carry on Cleo.
“No decorum at the forum” was part of the theme tune of the movie version of Up Pompeii, sung by Frankie Howerd.
Both came out of the same mid 20th-century British comedy scene and both were on Roman Empire themes.
I wonder if they were penned by the same scriptwriter?
Not sure if the time matches(I’m too young to remember), but weren’t these men prolific writers, as well as being known for their own performances. I’d go for Spike.
https://disq.us/url?url=https%3A%2F%2Farchive.org%2Fdetails%2FTheGoonShow1950to1960%2Fspanish%2Bsuitcase.mp3%3A4RT4wr1VrcG8VeNqScAdmPi4e44&cuid=3446943
writing out
”romans go home” 100 times always cracks me up
In theory, as I have no military experience, killing someone with a gun often involves a direct person to person visualization This is even more so with a sniper, whose motto is “one shot one kill.” Personally, in my opinion a sniper has latent psychopathic tendencies whether military or “civilian law enforcement” the latter which is nothing more than licensed thuggery these days.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/09/us/police-shooting-video-arizona.html
At least at 20,000 feet, dropping a dumb bomb is less “personal”
But in view of today’s smart camera bombs, I wonder if the sniper psychological profile exists in those people who look at killing as a video game.
Me? If I were going to die in a “war,” I guess I’d much rather die from a bomb explosion so I wouldn’t even know what had hit me.
Having said that, I have thought that my chances of dying a natural death vs dying from a gunshot wound or explosive are about 50-50, or put in less sensational terms, you could ask: as crazy as things are these days who knows what’s going to happen?
cockroaches killing cockroaches!
Here, try this link.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/police-officer-who-fatally-shot-sobbing-man-temporarily-rehired-apply-n1028981
Mass D
China is in tough shape now. The usual way around that problem is to start a war somewhere. This would suggest that an attack by China of Taiwan is likely in the near term.
No country has the resources to fight battles on many fronts.
>> The usual way around that problem is to start a war somewhere.
Are you sure? Or is that just European history? China doesn’t start a bunch of wars. India has been in a tough spot for generations and been relatively light on wars. What about Venezuela?
The story is perhaps a little more complex. One issue is working around what appears to an upcoming collapse. A different issue is the actual collapse.
War is one approach toward working around what appears to be an upcoming collapse. It can be civil war, as in the US in the early 1860s, or it can be war against other nations. It can even be proxy wars, as the US has been trying to use for years, meant to pump up the economy in some way. The US has used war-like behavior to boost its economy (and maintain its hegemony) for a very long time–especially since 1970, when it started losing its energy leadership.
I think that intentionally releasing a man-made virus and scaring old people and telling them to stay home is another way to work around an upcoming collapse. It gave an opportunity to print a huge amount of money. It also brought the price of oil down very low, making goods more affordable. It wasn’t war, but it was manipulation of the economy in a way to prevent collapse.
I am not a student of history enough to know precisely how much war has been used. Dogs (and many other K-selected animals) draw boundaries and fight intruders, as a way to allow them to mark off a big enough space for sufficient resources for themselves and their families.
We know that hunter-gatherers fought each other, and there are many other groups that fought each other. At no point did this violence stop, as far as I know. The violence was usually with respect to people close at hand, rather than traveling around the globe to attack someone else. We would probably not have good records of all of the internal violence.
Another approach toward heading off collapse is the use of the demand that all resources be divided equally. As we should know from history, this doesn’t really work in practice. People quickly figure out that hard work has no reward. Recently, we have had a demonstration that disbanding the police doesn’t really work in practice.
I would add that Venezuela is in collapse. It doesn’t have the energy supplies to do much of anything.
“War is one approach”
If you model this most humans have been genetically selected for wars.
When there is a resource crisis, typically from weather, genes do better (more copies left) by going to war with neighbors than starving. About 40% better in the simple model. The reason is that the genes of the warriors are also in their female children who are incorporated into the winner’s tribe.
One divergent human group, the San do not seem to have been selected for wars. They have the lowest fertility rate of any group on the planet.
In the course of researching this topic I seem to have answered the question of why chimps and bonobos are so different. Chimps are highly territorial. They are always fighting neighbors. Bonobos live in an area where they can spread into areas with lots of fruit trees, but when they do, they run into areas with sleeping sickness. This is an automatic drain on the population so they have never found fighting for territory genetically rewarding.
This makes sense to me.
If you model this most humans have been genetically selected for wars.
This doesn’t make sense to me. What makes more sense to me is that you are telling a Just So story.
I pick my nose (occasionally, and never in public). You pick your nose. Everybody picks their nose when it’s itchy.
Ergo, most humans have been genetically selected to pick their noses.
I have a paper about this that may be coming out in Nature soon, if they can find any evolutionary biologists clever enough to peer review it. Unfortunately, Richard Dawkins is fully booked.
“This doesn’t make sense to me”
If you want to read the paper, ask.
When faced with a resource crisis, a tribe 50,000 years ago had a choice of starving in place or attacking neighbors and taking their resources. From the viewpoint of genes, attacking was almost 40% better. The reason for this was the genes for doing so were also in the female children of the warriors who were incorporated into the winner’s tribe. The math is straightforward.
Jack Nicholson explains:
The big dog must fight to retain empire… if China had an empire they’d do the same … see your history … the Romans never stopped warring.
They should invade Taiwan and take their oil and coal!
Good idea!
I looked up imports and exports:
https://oec.world/en/profile/country/twn?latestTrendsFlowSelectorNonSubnat=flow1&yearlyTradeFlowSelector=flow1
https://oec.world/en/profile/country/twn?latestTrendsFlowSelectorNonSubnat=flow0&yearlyTradeFlowSelector=flow0
Taiwan imports of a lot of fossil fuels. It also seems to export some refined petroleum products because it refines more oil than it uses itself (or perhaps there are certain kinds of products that it doesn’t want or need itself).
The moment I realized the whole Hamas stunt is fake is Dimona.
Hamas repeatedly tried to take out the nuclear facilities at Dimona.
But, when Israel’s air defense supposedly broken and the iron dome having gone to lunch, not one word was heard about Dimona. Like the Luftwaffe blitzing London instead of the airfield, the rockets went to where? 5,000 rockets and less than a few hundred deaths.
What is that, since they would not get a second chance? If it were a real operation it would have been conducted by a kindergartener.
Have you looked at a map kulm?
It’s not an easy place to attack, so why waste what you have when there are better and easier targets.
They appear to have taken out a high amount of top officers, particularly in intelligence gathering. If true, then there is a real purpose behind it. We’ll find out soon enough.
Agree completely. The most ineffective attack imaginable.
8 days ago the Polish Supreme Audit Office (“The Supreme Audit Office is the supreme audit institution and also one of the oldest state institutions in Poland”) presented its findings regarding the management of covid pandemic by the Polish government:
– early in 2022 the Polish Health Department conducted inspections at two randomly chosen wholesale trade warehouses and tested the vaccine batches there.
– the results showed that over 100,000 vials had stage 2 contamination, which means they were dangerous to life and health and could cause serious adverse events and even death.
– the tests showed an unstated amount of stage 1 contamination ( = causes death)
– since there were only two inspections in in only two warehouses it is safe to assume that way more vials were defective.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CBjxnQVsKw
(run the transcript through a translator – “I would like to emphasize that a second -class quality defect, i.e. a defect that may cause disease or improper action. The Chief Pharmaceutical Inspectorate provided this information to the Government Strategic Reserve Agency only after a year of obtaining this information, asking for an action to identify distribution channels and notification of recipients about the situation. Unfortunately, these activities were pointless, because the whole amount of this the series, i.e. 117,600 doses of the vaccine, was given to patients. I will repeat again, ladies and Gentlemen: the whole series of Covid-19 Jansen Vaccines Series No. XD955, i.e. 117 600 doses of vaccines with suspected defect in the second class, i.e. which can cause disease or improper effect, it has been given to patients.”)
If vaccine makers can never be sued for liability, there is little motive for quality control. This is especially true if the roll out is rushed.
And they won’t get done for this either https://arkmedic.substack.com/p/5-ways-to-skin-a-genetically-modified/comments
What’s this about JET FUEL SHORTAGES???
Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport breaks ground on new terminal
For the first time in several decades, Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport is getting a major upgrade.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7tLQ2Vgx5Wk
Going to be interesting…of course, need to fulfill the Master Plan 2030…
Think this terminal is set to be completed by 2026….we shall see
Most major airports have such expansion projects…they can’t help themselves
Who thinks about the long term?
For them they think about capital budget expenditures and funds provided…South Florida will be a great showcase for the End of the World Party….remember the Liberty City Riots back in the 1980s… that’s going to look like a Tea Party for what’s coming down the pipe when there a gas lines and food rationing…
Hold on….but today it’s BAU Baby..life is good
This summary highlights key elements of the plan’s recommended development program. It is designed for stakeholders to gain an overview of major matters addressed in the detailed Master Plan report. While the Master Plan is a visionary document that sets out a ‘road map’ for the sustainable growth of the Airport, it is not an approval for any specific development or project. In addition, time frames for the projects shown in the plan are flexible and demand driven.
They even tucked in the phrase sustainable growth of the Airport😜🤑
China’s largest private developer Country Garden warns of default
The company has about $200bn in liabilities and close to $10bn in dollar-denominated debt
https://archive.ph/0ipdy#selection-1587.0-1593.89
These developers pre sell apartments off the plan …
These developers have not been completing projects that were already sold…
Who in their right mind is buying an apartment off the plan now.
This situation is almost certainly far worse than we are being told … this looks to be a total implosion of the market
I’ve read that China’s government-financing system is via taxes on new construction rather than property taxes and also private savings is done largely in the form of property investment/speculation. I guess we’ll see how well they manage to navigate the downstream consequences.
I believe that local governments own farmland, and that leasing this farmland out with 99 year leases gives local governments a lot of long-term revenue. But once the sales stop, the revenue flattens. If condos can no longer pay the 99 year lease amount, the governments will be hit is this way too.
Office space vacancies in US and London reach at least 20-year highs
Demand for office space has slumped further, with vacancies reaching at least 20-year highs in the US and London, as people continue to work from home despite companies’ attempts to get staff back in the office after the Covid-19 pandemic.
Vacancy rates have risen to fresh highs and investment in offices fell sharply in the third quarter this year compared with the same period in 2022 in London, New York and San Francisco, according to preliminary data from CoStar, a research company focused on commercial real estate.
The sustained slowdown in the office market comes as higher borrowing costs and low occupancy are compressing building valuations while companies including Amazon, BlackRock, Lloyds Banking Group and JPMorgan have in recent months introduced staff attendance mandates on given days.
“The big ticket transactions [are] really not happening at the moment,” said Mark Stansfield, director of UK analytics at CoStar. “There is still a divide of expectations between sellers and buyers.”
https://archive.ph/6Rp96#selection-2217.0-2239.199
Worsening … Delightful!!!
Maybe companies are starting to give up on actually getting the vast majority of workers back in the office. Indirectly, the problem is that there is not enough fuel for all of the workers to drive back to work. Also, workers’ lives are crammed with so many other things that they don’t have time to fight traffic for hours on end.
i missed this from a few days ago, indisputable evidence that covid is a lab creation:
“Unnatural evolution”: indisputable evidence for deliberate and systematic creation of circulating covid variants
https://swinehoodsremedy.substack.com/p/unnatural-evolution-indisputable
(and don’t look at that furin cleavage site behind the curtain, either).
From the comments..
“One item that keeps flashing in my memory is that of the post that was sent from a senior official in the Canadian government. He was called into a closed door meeting with the Prime Ministers Office with other officials in fall of 2019. He was told of the outbreak in China and the forthcoming shutdowns and the need for every citizen to be vaccinated. What was interesting was that Emergency Measures would be invoked and eventually an “antidote” would be offered. There were conditions to be met to get the “ antidote “.
When Omicron broke out in South Africa I can remember Malone and other credentialed scientists stating the genetic make up of Omicron was that it was like a far less deadly variant and ahead in genetic mutations. Such that they were recommending people who had not been vaccinated to ideally be exposed to Omicron which would bring about good immunity.
A number of scientists described Omicron “ as almost a perfect ANTIDOTE “ ….. Could it be that someone or some group jumped the gun in releasing it such that citizens didn’t have to give up property or immediate repayment of debt to acquire the so called antidote ?”
Interesting thought!
There have been some microbiologists stating under the radar that sequencing shows that variants were not in the natural generational order. So that later variants ocurred before their younger siblings.
This is beyond my possibilities to comment.
It means though, that those variants must have been released deliberately, which also means there must have been instruments to do so.
To release a “natural vaccine” does not necessitate two hostile goups. It is thinkable that stopping the pandemic was part of any planned scenario.
Uh… if stopping the pandemic was the intention .. why did they do this?
Don’t believe me? See what Dr Phillip Buckhaults has to say about the Buckshot. I have clipped out the most important part from his speech to the SC Senate hearing and the most important bit of the most important bit is this:
“During the process they chopped them [the DNA plasmids] up to try to make them go away but they actually increased the hazard of genome modification”
https://arkmedic.substack.com/p/5-ways-to-skin-a-genetically-modified/
It’s ok if you don’t try to answer… this is the Smoking Gun with respect to intent
@Eddy
I cannot know, what other people hide and I am not really spending time to speculate about it.
I understand that the jabs contain the risk of multiple damages of which one alone would have been reason not to approve them. I see the possibility of a “binary poison” as very high.
There are obviously “religious” or “esotheric” aspects involved and these might have led to a halt.
I think that very soon we all might be disconnected and resonsible for ourselves. Our kids or fellow humans will come and lay a baby in our arms and say: I love it so much! What can we do to make it survive?
And then you and me and Gail and all the others that had the priviledge to get used to the thought and to develop will be in need to answer. Of course it will be you and me and Mrs Fast – do you expect anything from Brandon or Ardern or Nehammer?
And then we will smile with faith and answer: Now we will dig out the couch grass or wildrye, dry and toreefy it’s white roots and try to produce a bread out of it or at least a high caloric soup. Add some nettles for proteins! And then we will plant something for next year and try to organize all a bit so we get some regular perspective.
If I have the time I will try it out and send you the recipe!
Yes yes… but why did they inject 6B with a substance that does this:
“During the process they chopped them [the DNA plasmids] up to try to make them go away but they actually increased the hazard of genome modification”
Wait, what?
They did something that increased the risk of genome modification?
Now why would they do that, surely that’s an accident.
https://arkmedic.substack.com/p/5-ways-to-skin-a-genetically-modified
How does that make $$$ for them?
“I found you know I I
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was the uh the first in the UK to point out that the virus escaped from the lab
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and to me it was completely obvious because it had inserts in it that one of them could occur naturally not six or
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around the receptor binding site ”
And Montagnier alerted us to this very early on…
The pathogen that kills 6B vaxxers with hijacked immune systems … will also come from a lab
Thanks for posting this again.
https://twitter.com/ElonMuskAOC/status/1711495361234428130
Does the video look fake? Take note that they are just stone rubble. What happened to cars, home appliances, clothes, cupboards, etc
I see no proof or even mention of who provided the image. Unless it came from MSM or a government source, it’s a non-issue, created by someone who wants to stir the pot.
Come on guys, go yourselves on Middle East, Arabs, Turkish newspapers and inform yourselves.
Get out of your normal western newspapers to understand reality.
In my view, considering the destruction of Gaza fake is an argument that doesn’t deserve to be opened in such a serious blog like this one.
Same argument for dead people in Ukraine or incursions and dead people in Russia.
If someone believe that current wars are fake need to consider to be entered in a chamber of self-reference.
p.s. I don’t want to enter in what Musk has proposed on X, but the destruction you can see in non-western newspapers is similar…
Hmmm, whats up?
https://diannemarshallreport.com/israels-most-intriguing-war-photo/
‘….a soldier with no feet in the background. But there was something more about the photo that my gut said… keep looking.’
Wow… the PR Team does enjoy toying with the mob
Fascinating. Let’s remind ourselves of Bush on that day.
Historian Webster Tarpley Analyzes Bush’s Behavior on 9/11
This is an excerpt of a long video (movie) in which, if I’m not wrong, also Gail gave her considerations and also Richard Heinberg gave his considerations.
If I’m not wrong the title of the video was ‘smoke and mirrors’.
But it is a video which cannot be found anymore, at least I cannot find it on youtube.
Thanks
Excellent and ominous documentary from many years ago now. Still more than relevant.
Oil, Smoke and Mirrors
Tennessee mom says her daughter, 7, died while playing with popped birthday balloons
“Kelly said she left Alexandra Hope, 7, in their living room briefly while the girl was popping her birthday balloons last Sunday, but when she returned, she found the girl facedown with one of the popped mylar balloons over her head”
https://www.foxnews.com/us/tennessee-mom-warns-danger-daughter-7-died-playing-popped-birthday-balloons?dicbo=v2-f4ExdaM&obInternalId=71118
Pure horror.