Can India come out ahead in an energy squeeze?

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I was recently asked to be a keynote speaker for World Management Conference (WMC 2023) in Patna, India. The academic group that asked me to speak was particularly concerned about Complexity and Sustainability. A PDF copy of the presentation is available at this link.

The primary things I pointed out to the group were the following:

  • The slower the growth, the more sustainable an economy is over the moderately long term.
  • Energy consumption and the use of complexity tend to rise together.
  • Too much complexity can lead to collapse.
  • In general, the most “efficient” economies can be expected to do best.
  • Over the long term, all economies will collapse.
  • There have been shifts in which economies get a major share of available energy supplies. Shifting patterns are likely again in the future.
  • India may come out ahead in an energy squeeze because its warm climate and conservative culture allow its energy consumption per capita to remain low.
Distribution of World Energy Consumption by Country Grouping, 1982 to 2022. OECD is largest in 1982, but has shrunk to 39% in 2022. China has grown from 6% in 1982 to 26% in 2022.
Figure 1. Share of total world energy consumption, by country grouping, based on data of the 2023 Statistical Review of World Energy by Energy Institute. Russia+ includes Russia and its close affiliates. For the earliest years, these were data for the Soviet Union. For more recent years, the grouping is for the Commonwealth of Independent States.

A great deal of my presentation was simply a restatement of the words on the slides, in a slightly different way. So, my comments on the slides will be quite brief.

Title Slide: Complexity and India's Sustainability
Slide 1.
Section Header Slide: Why Complexity Is Needed. Explanation: Complexity is a temporary workaround if there are too many people for resources.
Slide 2.
The problem giving rise to the need for complexity: Population tends to increase, but arable land a fresh water does not increase. Soon there is not enough food and fresh water to go around. Complexity solves problems!
Slide 3.

Of course, after complexity solves problems, population continues to grow, creating a similar problem all over again. This likely leads to the need for even more complexity.

Chart illustrating that the faster population rises, the more quickly it reaches limits. Slower growth is more sustainable.
Slide 4.

My crude drawing represents the difference between slow growth in population and fast growth in population. Rapid growth is difficult to sustain for very long because arable land and fresh water don’t grow.

There is a similar problem if fossil fuel energy is being used. If growth in consumption is very fast (for example, China’s growth pattern starting in 2002), it becomes impossible to keep up the pattern. There can be two different problems: (a) Running short of fuels, leading to the need for higher-cost extraction and/or imports, and (b) Overpromising in the financial markets, leading to debt defaults and stock market crashes. China seems to be encountering both difficulties, even though its population is falling, rather than growing.

Examples of complexity. Farming is a kind of complexity. A photo is shown of workers in India harvesting rice with a metal hand tool. Knives from metal are a kind of complexity.
Slide 5.

Organizing workers to plant and harvest crops represented a major step up in complexity, relative to hunting and gathering.

A metal tool, such as the one shown on Slide 5, greatly helped the productivity of farmers compared to using a sharpened rock or a piece of wood as a tool, or using only bare hands.

More examples of complexity. Pumps for water irrigation. Very large farm machinery. Hybrid seed. International trade. Companies, including international companies.
Slide 6.
More advanced complexity.  Computers and scientific models. Lots of government debt. Intermittent electricity from solar panels and wind turbines. Supply lines providing materials from around the globe.
Slide 7.
Current complexity uses a huge amount of fossil fuels. Diesel fuel powers international ships, huge trucks, and agricultural equipment. Oil products are used to make pesticides. There are no electrical  substitutes for any of these. Coal is used in making solar panels, iron and steel, and concrete. Natural gas is burned to offset the intermittency of wind and solar on the electric grid..
Slide 8.

Of course, this list of uses is very incomplete. For example, both coal and natural gas are burned to create electricity.

Section Header: How Complexity Hits Limits
Slide 9.
1. The most useful complexity is found first.

The complexity with the highest return, relative to investment, tends to come early. For example, the  wheel. Damming water for irrigation. Burning coal to produce electricity.  Later inventions often have much less favorable returns.  Solar panels need the subsidy of going first. Electric vehicles usually cost more than regular vehicles; need subsidies.
Slide 10.
2. Growing complexity leads to wage and wealth disparity. Best educated people tend to get the highest wages. Property owners tends to amass wealth, both from capital gains due to inflation and rents collected.  Problem is that there are not enough goods and service left over for poor people. They can't afford food and shelter.
Slide 11.
At side, the Energy Complexity Spiral illustration by Joseph Tainter. Third way economy growing complexity reaches limits: Growing complexity enables the use of more energy. Item a) Use of energy to make better tools takes energy, but at the same time it sometimes adds to energy supply. Item b) Greater complexity makes cars more fuel efficient, but also may make them less expensive to operate, enabling more people to afford the vehicles. Item c)Adding more layers of government adds more wages, and thus more buying power. The great buying power indirectly raises fossil fuel prices, enabling more extraction.
Slide 12.

As an example of a) above, a metal shovel allows more food to be grown. Food is, of course, an energy product that humans eat. Another example would be better drilling approaches that allow more oil to be extracted from a well.

Regarding b), greater complexity makes cars more fuel-efficient cars, making the cars less expensive to operate. This makes them more affordable, so more people can afford to buy them. This is known as Jevons’ Paradox. Although the devices look more efficient, the fact that more people can afford them allows the total amount of fuel used to increase.

Item c) relates to adding “buying power.” If more people can afford goods because of more government spending or more government debt, the added buying power keeps the demand, and thus the prices, of energy products up higher than they otherwise would be. The higher prices motivate businesses to extract harder-to-access energy resources that might not be profitable to extract if the prices were lower.

4. Growing complexity leads to a shortage of inexpensive to produce energy supplies. International trade takes oil, leading to shortages of  diesel and jet fuel. Manufacturing of solar panels takes coal, and eventually aids in driving up the the price of coal.  Problem is that the most easily
Slide 13.

We extract the least expensive to extract oil, coal, or natural gas first. Even if our techniques get better, at some point, the price of fossil fuels used in growing and transporting of food becomes unreasonably high. Poor people, especially in low-income countries, have a hard time affording an adequate diet.

5. Growing complexity invites collapse.
Three references are giving for "The Economy is a self-organizing physics-based system. An image by Gail Tverberg is shown, illustration how an economy grows as added layers, with unneeded earlier layers gradually being removed.  The inside becomes hollow. The system becomes fragile. Economies often collapse.
Slide 14.

Slide 14 shows a chart I put together to try to explain the physics-based way economies are built. In a way, they are built in layers, with new businesses being added at the top, over old businesses, and new laws being added to old sets of laws. New human customers are added, too, and some die or move away.

Every action that contributes to GDP requires energy of some kind. It could be human energy powered by food, or human energy plus fossil fuel powered energy. Moving a truck or train requires energy. Even moving electrons, as in heating food or transferring electrons within transmission lines, takes energy.

One thing that keeps the system in balance is the fact that many of the consumers are also employees. If wages are not high enough (particularly for the poorer members of the economy), it becomes increasingly difficult for them to afford the basic goods and services that they need for living. Of course, changing interest rates or the availability of credit also affects the affordability of goods and services.

Chart titled: Collapse follows a predictable pattern. This chart shows a line that rises and falls, sort of like a mountain. On the way up, the caption says "Complexity Rises" and "Fossil fuel consumption rises or more wood is cut for fuel. The top of the mountain is labelled, "Too much complexity." <b>"Too much wage and wealth disparity."</b> On the way back down, the labels are "Population falls!" and "GDP falls!"
Slide 15. Hand drawn chart by Gail Tverberg showing some of the processes that change as an economy gradually grows too big and too complex for its resource base.

Early in the life of the economy, both energy consumption and complexity rise, as depicted in The Energy-Complexity Spiral by Joseph Tainter, illustrated on Slide 12,

At some stage, the economy reaches a point of too much wage and wealth disparity. Poor people cannot afford the necessities of life. Riots by poor people become common, as they did about 2018 and 2019, indirectly because of low wages and low benefit levels. Governments find ways to make goods more affordable, as many did in 2020 (partly by ramping up money supply and partly by limiting travel, thereby reducing oil demand and thus oil prices).

As the economy tries to bounce back, inflation and broken supply lines can become problems, as they did in 2021. More fighting tends to take place, as it did with the Ukraine conflict beginning in 2022. In some ways, the economy begins to sound like the book Nineteen Eighty-Four by George Orwell, with a great deal of censorship of opinions not conforming to government-sponsored views.

If the problem really is a resource problem that cannot be fixed with more complexity, the high level of wage disparity will ultimately lead to the population falling because poor people cannot afford necessities. Large cities are particularly prone to collapse. GDP can be expected to fall at the same time.

Section Header Slide says "The Standard Narrative Says "Growth Forever." The subtitle is, "Physics says that inefficient economies are squeezed out."
Slide 16.
Politicians, educators, and businesses cannot admit that collapse might be ahead. The standard narrative is <b>Business as usual will continue forever.</b> All we need is more complexity.  Intermittent electricity from wind and solar can substitute for fossil fuel. Our biggest issue is "Climate Change."

This  is  nonsense. We humans have little control over climate. But lots of academic papers are written on this basis. Our economy is powered by energy of the right kinds, under the laws of physics. Intermittent electricity cannot substitute for diesel oil or jet fuel.
Slide 17.

Politicians cannot admit that such a problem might be lying ahead because they want to be reelected. Educators want students to think that high-paying jobs for people with advanced education will continue to be available in the future. Businesses want people to believe that the cars and homes that they are purchasing will be worthwhile investments for many years in the future. Mainstream media has no choice but to tell the stories governments and businesses want told. Governments offer research grants on projects associated with the favored technologies, giving financial incentives to publish academic papers supporting the chosen narrative.

The whole process is assisted by the fact that academic areas within universities each seem to exist within their own ivory towers. Researchers within economics departments don’t understand that there is a physics reason for the world’s high energy consumption; “scientific modelers” don’t understand the limits of a finite world. Scientific modelers assume that growth can happen indefinitely, while both history and physics indicate that this is impossible.

Physics tends to squeeze our inefficient economies and favor efficient economies. Evolution occurs with plants and animals. Something similar happens with ecosystems and with economies. Survival of the best adapted occurs as conditions change. For an economy, best adapted seems to mean "Able to produce goods and services inexpensively, compared to other countries. The Soviet Union  was not well adapted prior to its collapse in 1991: cold climate, expensive oil wells compared to other countries, lack of good ports, long shipping distances. China was well-adapted in 2001, with its inexpensive coal for producing goods. But now its coal is depleting and its fiancial model of savings as extra homes is not working.
Slide 18.
Figure 1 chart called "Distribution of World Energy Consumption" is shown again. Text says, "Chart shows major shifts in energy consumption. The group of countries included in "Russia+" were squeezed down very early; after 2001, China has been favored.
Slide 19.

The chart shown on Slide 19 is a repeat of Figure 1, shown at the beginning of this post. In this chart, the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) is an organization of 37 rich countries of the world, including the US, Canada, most of the countries of Europe, Japan, Australia, and New Zealand. Its energy consumption clearly has been squeezed down since 2002, when China’s energy consumption started rising after it joined the World Trade Organization (WTO) in December 2001.

As mentioned on Slide 18, the share of world energy consumption of Russia (+ closely affiliated countries) has been squeezed back for a very long time. This may be part of the reason why Russia seems to be so unhappy.

India’s share of world energy consumption is small, but it has been growing.

The share of energy consumption by countries in the Rest of the World has also been growing. This group would include OPEC countries, plus the many poor countries around the world.

India uses much less energy per capita than many other countries:
1. India's climate doesn't require heating of homes and businesses
• Sales price of goods can be lower in the international market
• Makes the economy more competitive
2. Some of India's agriculture is performed using low-level tools
• Primarily uses human energy, not fossil fuels
3. Most people don't have vehicles
• Vehicles used tend to be small
4. Tradition mandates conservative life-style
•Mothers often don't work outside the home
5. Intermittent electricity iscourages use of refrigerators
Slide 20.

In item 4 on Slide 20, regarding vehicles being small, I mean that motorcycles, 3-wheeled auto rickshaws, and mini trucks are used to a much greater extent in India than in the richer countries of the world.

Perhaps India can "come out ahead" in the next squeezing out because of its low energy consumption per capita.  Chart shows energy consumption per capita (in gigajoules) with the following amounts: US = 284; Europe = 118; China = 112; World = 76; India = 26; Central Africa = 5.
Slide 21.

It might be mentioned that China’s per-capita energy consumption is now almost as high as that of Europe. At the time it joined the WTO in 2001, China’s energy consumption per capita was only about 25% of high as that of Europe. China would now seem to be in danger of having its share of world energy consumption squeezed back because it is itself becoming relatively rich.

India is a major importer of oil. Using oil sparingly makes it more affordable. Chart shows India's oil consumption, which had been rapidly rising, next to its oil production. India's oil production is less than 20% of its consumption. The difference is made up by imported oil.
Slide 22.

The chart shows that India’s oil consumption has been rising, while its oil production has been trending downward for about a decade. Imports make up the difference. In an oil-constrained world, the question is whether oil imports will really continue to be available at an affordable price. Diesel and jet fuel are in particularly short supply.

India's energy consumption is 88% fossil fuels. Wind and solar account for 3% to 6%, depending upon the approach. Chart shows India's consumption of all types of fuels rapidly rising between 1982 and 2022. Coal provides a little over half of India's total energy consumption.
Slide 23.

India, like pretty much everywhere else in the world, gets the vast majority of its energy supply from fossil fuels. Using the Energy Institute’s (EI’s) way of counting, about 88% of India’s energy consumption in 2022 came from fossil fuels.

It is confusing to know how to count wind and solar because their electricity is not available when needed. If they are given credit as if they provide dispatchable electricity (which is EI’s approach), then their combined percentage is 6%. If wind and solar are counted as only replacing fuel, then their combined share of energy supply is about 2% or 3% in 2022. The International Energy Agency (IEA) uses the approach providing the lower indications, as do many researchers.

Section Header: What should India's complexity strategy be?
The key is keeping complexity from rising too much.
Slide 24.

When an economy starts shrinking, as shown in Slide 15, there is a problem with supply lines breaking in an overly complex society. Much of the world experienced some broken supply lines in 2020 and 2021. We can expect more broken supply lines again in future years.

Supply lines are likely to get shorter because of the shortages of diesel and of jet fuel. In particular, fewer goods and services are likely to be shipped across the Atlantic or Pacific Ocean. More trade will be regional in nature. For example, India will probably have a larger share of its total trade with other countries of Southeast Asia than now.

We can expect more fighting among countries because the world will basically be in a situation of “not enough to go around.” India would do well to stay out of these wars.

Intermittency of electrical supply will likely become more of a problem in the future. Replacement parts after storms will be more difficult to obtain.

1. Primary focus for added complexity: Reducing the cost of production of the fuels the economy requires.
• Inexpensive energy that keeps current devices operating is key to staying away from collapse
• More fossil fuels, at inexpensive cost, would be ideal!
• Or new liquid fuels that could be obtained cheaply and work in today's devices
Slide 25.
2. If wind energy can be used only at the times that it is available, its added use might be helpful.
•Simple windmills have been used to pump water for animals for 100+ years
• These are inexpensive to make
• Easy to repair
• Complexity is low
• Electricity from wind might be helpful if it can be used only at the time available
•Example: On a local grid used for charging cell phones and batteries for LED lights
• Solar panels have a major disposal problem
• Tend to poison water supply
• Unless this issue can be worked around, even use on a local grid is not helpful
Slide 26.
3. Poor use of complexity: Putting intermittent wind or solar electricity on the electric grid.
Giving wind and/or solar priority on the grid tends to drive out other electricity providers
• Prices end up too low for all providers
• Other electricity providers need government subsidies to stay in business
• Would need incredibly immense quantity of batteries to provide electricity in the same manner as other providers
•Cost of building and maintaining the electric grid becomes very high
• Main reasons for "wind and solar will save us" narrative are
a) To give citizens hope for the future
b) To provide jobs for people
Slide 27.
4. One complexity focus: India cannot depend as much on exports from other countries in the future.
• China is becoming a less reliable supplier of raw materials to India.
• Amount of international shipping is likely to fall as diesel fuel availability becomes more restricted.
• Planners in India need to think about what essentials are needed:
• Food
• Fresh water
• Clothing
• Basic medicines
• Basic tools, such as hand tools for harvesting rice
• Build essential supply lines within India
Slide 28.
5. Another complexity focus should be population.
• Don't want population growing much
• Focus should be on two-child families
• Keeping Indian traditions is important, too
• Adding laws to substitute for traditions and religious practices is a high-energy approach
• Too much urban population becomes a major problem
• High urban population requires fossil fuels to ship food in; wastes out.
• Discourage immigration to cities
• Make certain that rural incomes are high enough to cover necessities
Slide 29.

It is tempting for high energy economies to forget the importance of traditions and religion. Religions help bind groups together. Their laws and traditions give people a way to live with one another, without having a huge army of police being hired to keep order.

As economies become richer, the belief tends to become: The government can save us from all problems. We no longer need our traditional beliefs. All we need to do is focus on more even distribution of goods and services.

Unfortunately, the economy doesn’t work this way. Governments can print money, but they can’t print additional food and water. With broken supply lines, essential commodities such as fertilizer become unavailable. Population must drop for the economies to get back in balance. This is the reason that wars become more frequent, as complexity limits are hit.

6. Adding highways and airports is tempting, but the energy cost of maintaining them will be high.
• Heavy trucks use diesel, which is in short supply already.
• Jets use jet fuel, which is also in short supply
• Roads and runways are built with fossil fuels
• Unless a new source of cheap energy can be found, it will be difficult to do maintenance for very many years.
• The issue is always putting off collapse.
• In a finite world, nothing is permanent.
Slide 30.
Summary: For sustainability, the goal should be very slow growth with no more complexity added than required.
• No economy can last forever.
• A very slowly growing economy is much more sustainable than a fast-growing economy.
Slide 31.

About Gail Tverberg

My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
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2,991 Responses to Can India come out ahead in an energy squeeze?

  1. MikeJones says:

    Global water cycle ‘spinning out of balance’: UN meteorological agency
    State of Global Water Resources showed that over 50% of global catchment areas experienced deviations from normal river discharge conditions, with most of them drier than normal, citing China’s Yangtze River as an example
    We are seeing much heavier precipitation episodes and flooding. And at the opposite extreme, more evaporation, dry soils and more intense droughts,” said WMO Secretary-General Petteri Taalas in a statement as the UN agency released its State of Global Water Resources report for 2022.
    It showed that over 50% of global catchment areas experienced deviations from normal river discharge conditions, with most of them drier than normal, citing China’s Yangtze River as an example.
    On the other extreme, it cited floods in Pakistan that killed more than 1,700 people last year.

    “…Far too little is known about the true state of the world’s freshwater resources. We cannot manage what we do not measure,” the WMO said in a statement.

    On the other hand…it’s probably best NOT to know because we really can not do much about it with 8billion and growing human population regardless of UEP..
    That’s right …us super superior beings have added 2 billion people to the world’s numbers in little over two decades..my Mother was born around 1920and still alive..
    She’s age 101, and the whole worlds population was 2 billion

    • Fresh water supply is very much a local condition. We pump water out of aquifers without understanding well how rapidly they recharge. Also, big companies come in and sell bottled water, or use water for cooling of steam turbines used in generating electricity (using uranium, coal, or natural gas). The result is that there is not enough left for farming and for other local uses.

      High population is very much part of the issue. If the world population were 1 billion instead of 8 billion, water would be much less of a problem.

  2. MikeJones says:

    If it’s not one thing, it’s another
    ExxonMobil delegates shale duties after executive’s arrest, targets ‘integrated organisation’ after Pioneer purchase
    ‘It’s very, very important that we take the best of both organisations, and that’s the way we’ll look at the transition,’ says senior vice president

    The head of Exxon’s shale oil business has been suspended after being arrested at a Texas hotel on a sexual assault charge.

    David Scott, 49, was reported to police by one of two women he was with at La Quinta Inn & Suites hotel in Magnolia.

    The married senior vice president was picked up by cops at the $109-a-night hotel, near to his company’s headquarters in Spring on Thursday morning.

    Should have done a Robert Kraft at the Happy Ending Massage Parlor

    • Sex offenses have become a huge issue in recent years, even as there is a different group is busy trying to teach kindergarteners about sex acts.

      The Old Testament view of marriage seems to have been “as many wives as a man could afford.”

      Even more recently, rich men have been expected to have mistresses on the side. Rich men seem to look for advantageous situations, and some women are willing to go along with their advances. Middle aged men often leave their middle-aged wives from younger, more attractive women, and women sometimes see this as an opportunity to eventually obtain a rich older husband. This is the way the world has worked for a long time, I am afraid. “Money talks.”

      • ivanislav says:

        There is a mismatch in the optimal paths for self-interested genetic propagation between men and women. The observed behaviors reflect that. Oh well, blame God or evolution or what have you. We know that views of morality reflect successful behaviors and depend on environment. Whatever survives is right, according to nature.

        • Women don’t have physical strength; they have sexual attraction as the thing they can offer, particularly if they are unable to earn an adequate living on their own.

          It has been said that prostitution is the oldest profession. But I think that the situation is far more complex than this. If a woman wants the protection and indirect benefit of the income of a man, she will often end up sleeping with him. Within companies, there may also be a tendency to try to get promotions by providing favors to rich men near the top of the hierarchy.

          With men often out-earning women, this situation will always exist. Women, especially with children, have a very difficult time surviving on their own.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            Poor SSS… when the young hotties pour into the streets trading sessions for cans of tuna … she’ll lose her client base .. supply and demand + quality will mean to old men stinking of urine can get sessions with swim suit models for next to nothing…

            No doubt she’ll thrash and claw at the fresh young things as they flood into her space Out Back the Dumpster… she is a big ol battle axe of a woman… but she’s old … and morbidly obese… and they will be many

            norm will you help SSS or will you abandon her for the swim suit models?

            Tell her to at least prepare by cutting her hair short…. women tend to grab for the hair during battle

  3. MikeJones says:

    It wasn’t long ago that big fossil fuel companies were making bold claims about their plans to embrace a low-carbon future. Yet over the past year, many of those companies have walked back those commitments as they reaped outsize profits and made ambitious plans to expand their production of oil and gas.

    On Wednesday, Exxon Mobil signed a $60 billion deal to buy Pioneer Natural Resources, a company that made its fortune through fracking. The acquisition — Exxon’s biggest in almost 25 years, and the biggest corporate purchase of 2023 — represents a very expensive bet that fossil fuels will remain a central part of the global economy for the foreseeable future.

    “As the world looks to transition and find lower sources of affordable energy with lower emissions, fossil fuels oil and gas are going to continue to play a role over time,” Exxon Mobil chief executive Darren Woods told CNBC. “That may diminish with time. The rate of that is, I think, not very clear at this stage. But it will be around for a long time.”

    Like it or not, Exxon’s bet looks like a sound one. While wind turbines and solar panels are proliferating faster than many people realize, fossil fuel extraction is also expanding around the globe. Hundreds of new oil and gas projects have been approved in the past year.

    ……Exxon is flush with cash and a record high stock price. But instead of investing in clean energy, it is choosing to produce more oil and gas. The ruthless logic of the marketplace is pushing Exxon and other big oil companies to double down on fossil fuels instead of investing in green technologies.

    “They are absolutely bound to the returns,” Creyts said. “They’re bound to perform relative to market expectations. And any attempt to create a venture business that does not provide the returns that are expected as a large company gets penalized.”

    ….The continued growth of emissions means that this warming trend is all but certain to continue. “We need to be ready for a hotter planet,” Creyts said. “We need to be ready for tipping points to be crossed.”
    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/12/climate/fossil-fuels-arent-going-anywhere.html
    New York Times

    Not to worry…we will adapt per Rex Tillerson

    • It has become more and more obvious that wind and solar aren’t really substitutes for fossil fuel energy. Fossil fuel companies have been attracted by the big subsidies for wind and solar, but ultimately, they are close to useless. All of the other new gimmicks are similarly useless. If the approach is not usable in current devices and is not cheap to produce, it cannot work. We need solutions, now.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Yes but all that matters is that the MOREONS believe in the Great Transition … keeps them from sticking the barrel of a gun in their mouth and pulling the trigger.

        Seems nobody wants to touch on what the real purpose of the GW … EVs… renewable energy truth…. ain’t it obvious — it’s the Great Hopium …

        This is one of the main reasons why GW Groopies believe what they believe… it’s because nobody can give them a decent reason to explain why the PTB would fake such a thing….

        Cuz nobody will acknowledge energy depletion … even though this provides the only good reason to be faking GW …

        This ties into Covid… the MOREONS kick around Great Resets $$$$ Culls… etc… all are totally illogical and ridiculous… but if one gives the the Truth… they shriek NO!!! UN-TRUE!!! wrong!!! oil is abiotic of whatever….

        And the machine of doom thunders forward… and the MOREONS remain wilfully ignorant of why.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      “As the world looks to transition and find lower sources of affordable energy with lower emissions, fossil fuels oil and gas are going to continue to play a role over time,” Exxon Mobil chief executive Darren Woods told CNBC.

      hahahaha he knows this is bullshi t.

  4. Student says:

    (Splash Marittime News)

    “G7 attempts to clamp down on the Russian oil price cap.
    The US imposed the first sanctions for violations of the price cap on Russian oil introduced by the Group of Seven 10 months ago with sanctions placed on two firms and two vessels
    The US Treasury Department sanctioned United Arab Emirates-based Lumber Marine, the registered owner of SCF Primorye, and Turkey’s Ice Pearl Navigation Corp, the registered owner of the Yasa Golden Bosphorus.”

    Other next actions are indicated in the article.

    My guess is that if they go on like this, traders will probably exchange only processed oil (fuels), so it will become too difficult to make separation on what kind of oil has been used to produce that kind of fuel.
    That probably will reduce oil for ‘western refineries’ as a final result.

    https://splash247.com/g7-attempts-to-clamp-down-on-the-russian-oil-price-cap/

    • Good point. Send the fossil fuels to inexpensive refineries elsewhere. Then we will find out if we can bid a high enough price to get the already refined products back to us. With inadequate diesel supplies for shipping, I would not count on getting the refined products back.

  5. Fast Eddy says:

    Visitors flock to Hong Kong over mainland China’s ‘golden week’ holiday, but retailers say extra people did not mean higher sales

    About a million visitors hit city from September 29 to October 4, but tourists offset by 1.4 million Hongkongers who left on holiday over the period

    Real estate services firm says its survey of retailers showed footfall had increased, but sales had not reflected increased traffic

    https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/hong-kong-economy/article/3236962/visitors-flock-hong-kong-over-mainland-chinas-golden-week-holiday-retailers-say-extra-people-did-not

    China has a problem…

  6. Fast Eddy says:

    Way back in 2017 / 2018, dealer financing at 1.9% or even lower was common for buyers with decent credit. One of the vehicle owners surveyed in the NYT article is paying 15% on his used car loan, almost ten times the rate available five years ago. That increase will punch a hole in just about any budget.

    https://charleshughsmith.substack.com/p/on-thin-ice/

    Closer to implosion

    • The astounding increase in automobile costs is putting many families on very thin ice, financially. This is something that doesn’t show up in inflation statistics, the way that they are usually put together.

      CHS also gives many other examples putting pressures on families today, including student loan repayments.

      Our inflation statistics are pretty much nonsense!

      • we built an existence that was dependent on the car, for no better reason than to sell more cars.

        we seem to have reached the end of that particular road

    • From the article:

      The overarching theme of this discussion is how the oversimplified version of the story points to the very real possibility that the IDF was fully aware that Hamas was planning this incursion into Israeli territory and let it happen to justify a shock and awe campaign against their strongholds in Palestine as well as bigger targets on the world stage.

      The article pointed out that most of the story, as presented, is unverifiable. There definitely is no evidence of 60 decapitated babies, for example.

      The recent stories are compared to how the 9/11 attack was presented to the public the next day.

      The article talks about the impossible cell phone call, supposedly made by a passenger on a plane, 10 to 20 minutes before crashing into the Pentagon. On the phone call, the assertion was made that attackers had box cutters and were threatening the pilot. The call couldn’t be done without internet. In 2001, it definitely couldn’t have been down.

      Regarding the twin towers, the article says:

      Another huge question in the public’s mind on that day was the puzzling way in which the two massive twin towers collapsed. They didn’t fall to one side or another leaving a huge field of concrete. Each remained standing for over an hour and then suddenly disappeared from sight, falling straight down through the path of greatest resistance.

      .

      The explanation given was “Towers Believed to be Safe Proved Vulnerable to an Intense Jet Fuel Fire, Experts Say”

      In conclusion, the article says:

      This horrific attack on innocent Israelis is indeed their “9/11”. The similarities are uncanny.

      An Islamic terrorist organization using the relatively unsophisticated weaponry and methods at their disposal was able to exact enormous damage and fatalities upon innocent people in what should have been a highly defended area.

      Weaknesses in defensive capabilities were voiced prior to the attacks. These warnings went unheeded.

      Though able to take the lives of thousands of citizens, the terrorist act has little strategic value to them.

      While still trying to come to grips with the tragedy and the questions that surround it, the public is immediately given a specious explanation. The event wasn’t prevented because of tactical errors, unprecedented and bold strategies employed by the assailants and sheer bad luck.

      Eye-witnesses to the events are not given a voice while the world is bombarded by stories that paint the attackers as pure evil. Anyone who asks questions is labeled a terrorist sympathizer. A response is immediately called for—a response that will no doubt result in the loss of more innocent lives.

      Is this really a conflict between Jews and Palestinians ? Or is it an attack upon peace loving people by the governments and militias that rule over them? Who and what is really behind these monumental tragedies?

      • Fast Eddy says:

        What a brilliant strategy!!!

        The bully encourages the weakling to punch him in the face… then shouts – did you see what he did!!!! did you see what he did!!!!!! then proceeds to pulverize the bully… hahahaha…

        Fast Eddy used that strategy in Welly … taunting the vaxxers…then when one of them attacked FE… Fast Put The Boots to the f789er… here check out The Big Fat Gazan ..

        https://i.postimg.cc/fTkchPQR/Fat-Bastard.png

  7. Lastcall says:

    The video I posted about the true role of CO2 in geologic history is no longer available
    Cancelled by the woke lying jokesters.
    Something about inconvenient truth I believe.
    Can anyone find it.
    Norms fake world

    • postkey says:

      “CO2 didn’t initiate warming from past ice ages but it did amplify the warming. In fact, about 90% of the global warming followed the CO2 increase.”?
      https://skepticalscience.com/co2-lags-temperature.htm

    • please define

      ”woke lying jokester”

      i want to share your subtle skill with the english language

      • Tim Groves says:

        The term “woke lying jokester” appears to be a phrase used to describe someone with specific characteristics or behaviors.

        Let’s break it down:

        “Woke”: The term “woke” originated in African American Vernacular English and has gained broader usage in recent years. It refers to being aware and informed about social and political issues, particularly those related to systemic oppression and inequality. Calling someone “woke” suggests that they are conscious of societal injustices and are actively engaged in advocating for social change.

        “Lying”: “Lying” refers to the act of intentionally deceiving others by providing false information or making false statements. It implies that the person being described as a “lying jokester” is dishonest and not truthful in their actions or communications.

        “Jokester”: A “jokester” is someone who enjoys making jokes, often in a playful or humorous manner. They may have a tendency to engage in lighthearted or witty behavior, aiming to entertain others through their humor.

        When combined, the term “woke lying jokester” seems to imply a person who presents themselves as socially aware and politically active (“woke”), but is perceived as being dishonest or deceptive (“lying”) and often engages in humor or joking behavior (“jokester”). It suggests a level of skepticism or criticism towards the individual being referred to, implying that their activism or social awareness might be insincere or disingenuous.

        I hope this explanation was helpful.

        • Jan says:

          Thank you! Could you explain this “Schad” running through the blog?

          There is a German word “die Schadenfreude” (damage joy) the dictionay translates “malicious joy”, being happy that another person has problems. Is “schad” an English vernacular abbreviation? In German exists “der Schaden”, the damage or the adjective “schade”, being a pity.

          • Various people keep giving instances that appear to be related to people being injured by the so-called vaccines.

            I have said at various times that I would much rather see studies that look at populations in the aggregate, to see if there really are more deaths or cancers or whatever bad outcome is being claimed. To me, a single death or adverse outcome doesn’t mean much. Also, if the person in question is over age 65, the problem could easily be age and health-related.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              The PR Team won’t allow such studies so we have to go off anecdotes… I have stopped counting the people I know have vax injuries — I’d say the number is now in excess of 20…

              Just the other day a friend of M Fast’s – 40 – suddenly came down with severe diabetes… She is a healthy person — does not have a bad diet… not overweight …

              Out of nowhere and now she is shooting insulin..

              Normally with the Bid D – you have health issues and pre-diabetes diagnosed… you do not one day start shooting insulin… so that is a vax injury cuz we know it’s a side effect… along with pancreatic cancer.

              Ed Down is showing the surge in disabilities… that’s about the best we can do in terms of getting our finger on the pulse of how bad this is.

              Anyway who cares — it’s only stoooopid Vaxxer MOREONS who are experiencing this… best not to alert them cuz we want them taking more Rat Juice

              So we can be entertained

          • ivanislav says:

            Yes, schad = schadenfreude

            It is not English vernacular, but it’s just an abbreviation or term used on this blog like UEP ROF BAU Elders C+C etc.

    • I AM THE MOB says:

      You have felt it your entire life..

      • lurker says:

        that was very good.

        “The real hopeless victims of mental illness are to be found among those who appear to be most normal. Many of them are normal because they are so well adjusted to our mode of existence, because their human voice has been silenced so early in their lives, that they do not even struggle or suffer or develop symptoms as the neurotic does.

        They are normal not in what may be called the absolute sense of the word; they are normal only in relation to a profoundly abnormal society. Their perfect adjustment to that abnormal society is a measure of their mental sickness. These millions of abnormally normal people, living without fuss in a society to which, if they were fully human beings, they ought not to be adjusted.” ― Aldous Huxley, Brave New World Revisited

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Is it ok to not give f789s about what is happening to the Gazas… because they’d do the same thing to the JOOOS if the table was turned?

          I would say — yes indeed… f789 the Gazas… and the JOOOS.

          Who cares?

          Primitive wicked beasts every last one

      • “The matrix is all around you. You can feel it everywhere.”

        Consume! Consume!

        The narrative we are being told is what creates a huge problem.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Seems to me TINA…. it is so all encompassing that we cannot tell what is now real from fake … the matrix is indeed everywhere…

          But there is one thing I know is real … most definitely real… and I know cuz nothing is infinite on a finite planet… and I know cuz they go to great lengths to convince the MOREONS that we can transition off this substance to something that is impossible.

          What is real.. is energy depletion … this is what will collapse the matrix… and when that happens… the matrix will vapourize… and we will then see reality…

          No Tee Vee –no social media … no twinkling city lights… just eternal darkness… disease… violence… hunger….

          That will be real. Do ya’ll think you can handle real?

          • Tim Groves says:

            To avoid collapsing the matrix in the short term is probably the single most important goal of the jabs.

            In in Davos, down in Jackson Hole and at the Bohemian Grove and on Martha’s Vineyard, the talk for a long time has focused on “How can we kick the can a bit further down the road?”

            Depopulation is not a panacea, but it makes a lot of sense as it solves some of the most pressing problems and makes our finite world a little less overloaded. Harry Lime would certainly have approved of it, and

            That quote attributed to Jacques Attali that so many fact checkers have definitively debunked to their own satisfaction, still bears repeating, because it fits what’s been going in in the COVID era like a well-made suit.

            “The future will be about finding a way to reduce the population… Of course, we will not be able to execute people or build camps. We get rid of them by making them believe it is for their own good… We will find or cause something, a pandemic targeting certain people, a real economic crisis or not, a virus affecting the old or the elderly, it doesn’t matter, the weak and the fearful will succumb to it. The stupid will believe in it and ask to be treated. We will have taken care of having panned the treatment, a treatment that will be the solution. The selection of idiots will therefore be done by itself: they will go to the slaughterhouse alone.”

            Whoever fabricated that paragraph, why they never mentioned the moreons is my question. After the old, the stupid and the idiots are gone, only the moreons will remain.

            And whether Attali said it or not, this “quote” has been floating around the Internet for at least a decade. It wasn’t penned in the Covid era. So it can still be read as a prophesy of sorts.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Yes but Korowicz explained why reducing population will result in a massive Fail.

              It has something to do with vapourizing the supply chains and starvation – and ponds

  8. Fast Eddy says:

    Delightful!

    Acceleration of Inflation Continues, Core Services Inflation Spikes despite the Massive Health-Insurance Adjustment

    https://wolfstreet.com/2023/10/12/acceleration-of-inflation-continues-core-services-inflation-spikes-despite-the-massive-health-insurance-adjustment/

    • All of these inflation adjustments leave out the impact of rising interest rates on buying cars, boats, motorcycles and homes. If these were added, the increases would be a whole lot higher.

      The hedonic improvement estimates that those putting together the CPI use make little sense. Most drivers don’t really want all of the “improvements” being added. The same problem exists with cell phones and smart watches. Replacements cost more because the older, less-expensive ones are no longer available. If a person doesn’t really want all of the “improvements” at higher cost, the person still has to pay the higher price to get a somewhat similar phone or watch.

  9. Fast Eddy says:

    This pretty much sums it up. This is a VERY cool chart from somebody named Sankey on Twitter.

    These folks promised 1 MM BOPD from the Permian in 2018 and have been crawfishing ever since. They got their asses kicked in Eddy County, New Mexico by the gas monster. It has now reached its target, after 4 1/2 years, by buying Pioneer for $65 billion dollars, but they better hit the ground running because that Pioneer 389 K BOPD is dropping like a ship anchor into the open sea.

    People that think Exxon can replace 2 MM BOPD of legacy decline in Saudi America, then grow another 400K BOPD, every year for the next 5 years, from this Pioneer deal, I wish you guys the best of luck. Pioneer already ate the sweetest, juciest part of its watermelon, the rest is pretty much T 3/4 rind.

    https://www.oilystuff.com/forumstuff/forum-stuff/promises-promises

    • Wishful thinking is abundant everywhere.

      It would seem like Exxon Mobil adds higher overhead costs. If this is the case, it especially needs a big increase in output.

  10. This is the last chance for the Wokist Civilization, the Only Civ which can advance the world to a Type I Civ, to seize the world’s resources.

    If USA and its allies can occupy Russia, Iran and Saudi Arabia, game over for the rest of the world.

    • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

      L

    • Tim Groves says:

      Sorry to have to inform you but that dream will never be realized.

      Putin’s master stroke was to persuade Netanyahu to make or let the Hamas attack happen on purpose. “It will be good for you, personally, Benny my boy,” said Vlad. “And what’s good for you will be good for the State of Israel.”

      Now Israel will be so busy slaughtering Arabs in Gaza and perhaps Lebanon and Syria too, that Netanyahu will need all the arms and ammo Biden and the Europeans can spare, and there won’t be as much as a box of Guy Fawkes Night fire crackers left for Zelensky.

      Global civilization will just have to collapse into a pile of scrap once it can no longer support its huge bloated frame against the downward pull of human nature.

      • Kowalainen says:

        “Global civilization will just have to collapse into a pile of scrap once it can no longer support its huge bloated frame against the downward pull of human nature.”

        And continue to do so forever and ever and ever in perpetuity ad nauseam. 🤢🤮

        Yes, just have a look and read about ruins and miseries of the past, that should give enough indication.

        But don’t worry Tim, have another go in the perpetual wheel of folly. Just erase the memories and then download the Guiding Principles onto another newly conceived Anglo Saxon and off you go again! 🥳🎉👯🍾

        Sufficiently high technology is indistinguishable from magic.
        /Speculation off

        However, in the mean time:

        YOLO!
        MOAR!
        (etc.)

        😅👍👍

    • Jan says:

      There are 15 mio people fighting over a piece of desert. Nothing, that could not be solved, one should think.

      The problem is, that Saudi-Arabia prefers “promises to the development of India and China” over “promises in Euro and Dollar”. Additionally, as the US economy is slowing, calls for a peace dividend get louder and the US cannot anymore convince Saudi-Arabia militarily – as Ukraine shows.

      The chorus of moral outrage might now allow to spend more money on military expenses and thus allocate ressources for the West.

      That might be a try.

    • //////

      This is the last chance for the Wokist Civilization, the Only Civ which can advance the world to a Type I Civ, to seize the world’s resources.

      If USA and its allies can occupy Russia, Iran and Saudi Arabia, game over for the rest of the world.//////

      sheeeesh kulm

      your power of reasoning lost me when i got as far as wokist

      everybodys current fave word—it can mean whatever you want it to mean

      i wish i was in on the joke with woke

  11. Mirror on the wall says:

    A Russian view of the ongoing Palestine conflict…

    This is a machine translation of a Greek article.

    https://warnews247.gr/vomves-roson-o-israilinos-stratos-tha-echei-sovares-apoleies-sti-gaza-i-antiparathesi-echei-schediastei-na-to-exantlisei-kai-na-ferei-to-israil-sta-prothyra-tis-epiviosis/

    Russian Analysts: “IDF to Suffer Heavy Losses in Gaza – Confrontation Designed to Exhaust Israel & Bring Survival”

    “The land operation will not achieve its objectives”

    “Bombshell” publications in the Russian media refer to the failure of the Israeli Army’s ground operation in Gaza. The Russians report that the Israeli Army will not achieve the goals it has set while suffering significant losses.

    The worst-case scenario for Israel, and for the West, is to get bogged down in a war and then be attacked on other fronts with the risk of slipping into a regional war as WarNews247 reported yesterday.

    Also read: Israeli Lt. Gen.: “We’re falling into an Iranian trap in Gaza” – US also mobilizes 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit with two ships

    Russians: Israel cannot afford a prolonged conflict in Gaza!

    According to the Russians’ analysis:

    “The Israeli leadership has indicated that in response to the escalation, it plans to completely destroy the Hamas movement. At the same time, Israeli troops will have to conduct military operations in the Gaza Strip, the area of ​​which is 365 square km.

    About 2 million people live in Gaza. It is also important to note that the armed formations of Hezbollah are concentrated in the north of Palestine and Iran is behind the fighters of Hamas.

    In this regard, it becomes clear that Israel cannot afford a prolonged conflict in Gaza.

    Such a confrontation is designed to exhaust the Jewish state and bring it to the brink of survival.

    In addition, early evidence suggests that the mobilized Israelis are unable to provide themselves with personal protective clothing and equipment.

    What happened on October 7th was a resounding slap in the face to the IDF and an embarrassment to Israel as a whole.

    The Palestinian group Hamas surprised the troops of one of the most high-tech and militarized nations on the planet, so Tel Aviv will not soon forget such a humiliation.

    This is a very painful issue of pride and security, which can be compared to the historical events of 1973.

    From this point of view, the further development of the situation can follow various scenarios.

    Moreover, all options have a certain negative impact for Israel.

    First, the IDF could take the risk of “going in” by launching a major military operation directly into the Gaza Strip. However, Israeli forces are likely to be targeted by Hamas, whose fighters are well-trained and possess many weapons, especially anti-tank systems and drones.

    Without a doubt, the Palestinians prepared for the confrontation and divided their forces into sectors.

    IDF losses in densely populated urban areas in this situation will be very sensitive and the overall effect will be negative, which will be another stain on the reputation of the Israeli Army.

    Second, Israel has begun the blockade of Gaza. An attempt to starve the Gaza Strip and gradually turn it into ruins, along with the residents who did not flee to Egypt, could further complicate Israel’s international position. The fighting in neighboring Syria shows the direction. What happened in Homs, Aleppo and other cities will now happen in the Gaza Strip. It will become an attraction for volunteers and will be supported by other countries for a long time.

    Third, Israel is unlikely to agree to a ceasefire for fear that the next Hamas attack will be even bloodier. Therefore, this time what happened will not be “hidden under the carpet” and will not be forgotten in a while. Israel is locked in a months-long battle.

    Fourth, Hezbollah can provide support to the Gaza Strip and begin to greatly disturb Israel from its side. A confrontation may also begin in the West Bank of the Jordan River. Volunteers from Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq and Yemen will head to the Golan Heights in Syria. But this can ignite the entire Middle East space and drag the West into it.

    Finally, Israel has recently attempted to use AH-64 Apache helicopters and drones.

    In the present situation, the helicopters did not help as they were attacked by MANPADS and left the battle. Apparently, Hamas anticipated this scenario and was well prepared for Israel’s military response.

    Israel’s drones are also essentially incapable of fulfilling their role. The fact is that Hamas has set up mobile patrols on the roofs of buildings and is attacking the Israeli Army through ambushes.

    At the same time, the Palestinians are actively using drones to drop bombs on Israeli personnel and equipment.

    Obviously, when conducting a ground operation, the IDF will use mechanized units. However, under the current circumstances their effectiveness is questionable.

    The inability to provide Israeli air cover can be compensated for by multiplying the number of ground forces. But in conditions of dense urban development there will be serious losses.

    Northern Front: Israel has deployed large forces on the border with Lebanon

    At the same time, the Israeli army has deployed additional units on the border with Lebanon. IDF soldiers have already begun equipping fortifications, on the basis of which defenses will be built in case Hezbollah fighters cross the border.

    According to the Israeli administration, Israeli troops will deploy additional checkpoints, conduct patrols and set up ambushes.

    Among the military equipment deployed on the border with Lebanon are Merkava tanks, as well as self-propelled artillery units.

    In all probability, the IDF seriously fears the entry of Hezbollah fighters into the conflict. Meanwhile, Israeli authorities reported that many civilians in the border areas have been evacuated.

    An attack from Lebanon could be a serious problem for Israel, since in that case it would essentially have to fight on two fronts – in the Gaza Strip against Hamas and on the Lebanese border against the Hezbollah movement.

    • Perhaps. We will have to wait and see what really happens. “Israel cannot afford a prolonged conflict in Gaza.”

      If Israel’s “friends” provide armaments, perhaps it can participate in conflict for a while. Or the conflict will show that the “West” is not really as capable, militarily, as it claims to be.

    • Zemi says:

      “What happened in Homs, Aleppo and other cities will now happen in the Gaza Strip. It will become an attraction for volunteers”

      Yes, let Lucy Mirror become the new Shemima Begum. Lucy Letby, infanticide – Hamas, infanticide. See the connection? So get your stilettoes on, little Lucy. It’s time for you to be gone. And don’t come back!

      • Tim Groves says:

        Lucy Letby is innocent, OK!

        She’s a victim of the hospital’s failure to ensure sanitary conditions. The had to blame somebody for all those cot deaths, and it was never going to be the board of governors or the health inspectors.

        It is a terrible miscarriage of justice that she was convicted.

        Meanwhile, the entire British Government has been getting away with acting like Dr. Harold Shipman for the past three and a half years.

        Also, dear Zemi, please stop taunting Mirror as if he/she was a bull at a Spanish festival. Think of the extra strain on Gail if she’s called upon to moderate .

        And dear Mirror, don’t rise to the bait. The annoying little yob is waiting like the Emperor Palpatine for you to explode in anger and smash your laptop. Don’t give him the satisfaction.

        Remember that Lewis Carrol poem:

        Speak roughly to your little boy and beat him when he sneezes!

        He only does it to annoy, because he knows it teases!

      • Tim Groves says:

        And yes, Zemi, I’m sure we’ve all noticed Mirror’s enthusiasm for war when other people are doing the fighting and dying. I hope that one day, Mirror will grow up and look pack in embarrassment at how, in their younger and more foolish days, as a follower of Friedrich Nietzsche, they could have acted so crassly as to treat war in such a football hooliganish fashion.

        • Zemi says:

          I’ve no evidence of Lucy Mirror’s age, but I expect she’s far too old not to know better.

        • Zemi says:

          “Meanwhile, the entire British Government has been getting away with acting like Dr. Harold Shipman for the past three and a half years.”

          That’s so good I think you must have stolen it, old traitor Timwald who deserted the mother country. 😉

        • Kowalainen says:

          It is easy to be the warmonger superhero, but alone in the bed with a few broken bones and pains puts the context of war into perspective. A couple of blown off limbs and mutilations would suffice wanting to walk into the forest and enter the lotus position until the eternal rest awaits.

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wat_Pho
          “The image of the reclining Buddha represents the entry of Buddha into Nirvana and the end of all reincarnations.”

          https://youtu.be/NoAzpa1x7jU?si=xhhYxFysxgS3xgAv

          However, it the mean time:
          YOLO!
          HYPERS GONNA HYPER!
          MOARONS GONNA MOARON!
          PROJECT, PROJECT AND PROJECT!
          (etc.)

          🥳👍👍

          • Fast Eddy says:

            That is the MOARONS Anthem.

            Primitive dun.ces burdened by intelligence…

            What do you get if take this

            https://youtu.be/RLihLpdbE8E?t=32

            And add ‘intelligence’

            Answer – a f789ing nightmare species that destroys the planet…

            The only solution – and I mean ONLY — is to exterminate every last one

  12. moss says:

    Niger orders UN official to leave
    The organization has sabotaged Niger’s full participation in international gatherings, Nigerien coup leaders have claimed, according to media reports.
    Niger’s military government has ordered the resident United Nations coordinator in the country, Louise Aubin, to leave Niamey within 72 hours.

    moderndiplomacy.eu/2023/10/12/niger-orders-un-official-to-leave/

    this, however, would have to be the joke of the day
    “Nobody seeks Iran’s ‘permission’ to open a new war front against Israel”
    Amir Abdollahian
    tehrantimes.com/news/490050/Nobody-seeks-Iran-s-permission-to-open-a-new-war-front-against

    • You are referencing two different articles. One is about the Niger kicking out the resident UN coordinator (the UN is not doing very well!), and the other is talking about Iran’s response to the Israel-Palestine war. Regarding the latter, the article says:

      Regarding the second article, it says:

      Foreign Minister Amir Abdollahian said, “The actions of resistance groups in the Al-Aqsa Storm Operation were entirely Palestinian and self-motivated, which even Westerners emphasize that Netanyahu’s extremist behavior has created these conditions.”

      Iran’s chief diplomat who on Thursday started a tour of Iraq, Syria and Lebanon for consultations on the Gaza situation said, “In a situation where the Zionist regime has imposed a complete siege on Gaza, cutting off its water, electricity, and fuel supply, and preventing the delivery of food and medicine, the United States and some parties are sending weapons to Israel and allowing this criminal regime to continue its ruthless massacre of Palestinian civilians in Gaza. In such circumstances, anything is possible, and we may witness new events in the region.”

      He added, “Now the crimes of Israel are continuing and nobody in the region seeks our permission to open new fronts.”

      • Foolish Fitz says:

        All this trying to blame Iran is getting silly. As if the various people’s of the region can’t make their own decisions.

        I’ve read lots about how Iran organised it, to stop the deal between the illegal encampment and SA. There was no hope of a deal and both the U.S and the illegal encampment knew this.

        Back in June, there was a meeting and in the press conference afterwards with Biden standing beside him, the Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Faisal bin Farhan Al Saud said “without finding a pathway to peace for the Palestinian people, without addressing that challenge, any normalisation will have limited benefits. And therefore, I think we should continue to focus on finding a pathway towards a two-state solution, on finding a pathway towards giving the Palestinians dignity and justice. And I think the US has a similar view, that it’s important to continue on those efforts.”

        Lovely little dig with that last sentence.

        Then straight after that happened, it was announced that Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas will pay a state visit to China and get the full red carpet treatment from Xi himself.
        Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Wang Wenbin said “The Palestinian question is at the heart of the Middle East issue and matters to the region’s peace and stability and global equity and justice. China has all along firmly supported the Palestinian people’s just cause of restoring their legitimate national rights. For ten consecutive years, President Xi Jinping has sent congratulatory messages to the special commemorative meeting in observance of the International Day of Solidarity with the Palestinian People. More than once he put forward China’s proposals for resolving the Palestinian question, stressing the need to resolutely advance a political settlement based on the two-state solution and intensify international efforts for peace. As a permanent member of the UN Security Council, China will continue to work with the international community for a comprehensive, just and enduring solution to the Palestinian question at an early date.”

        It’s very unusual for the foreign ministry to invoke Xi’s name, but for the Palestinians they felt it put out their position clearly to all.

        There’s so much more going, like the naval cooperation between Iran, SA, Oman, UAE & China, that it would be amiss to believe it’s a single country dictating the actions. Erdoğan’s action, then words are another example and forces me to wonder if it’ll be checkmate, before we realise what game we’re playing.

        The divide you have talked about appears to nearing fruition and we’ve had no say in it.

        Slava Palestinian 😁

        • Zemi says:

          And all this while China continues to repress its Mushlimb Uygurs and hold them in camps for re-education. Kudos, China!

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Keep in mind most people are like norm … whatever bbccnn tells them … they believe…

          So this is not silly .. it may be fake blame — but to someone like norm it’s very real.. fake is real…

          norm will believe hamas has beheaded babies…

          norm lives in Clown World aka DelusisTAN

    • I own the book and I have read parts of it. He talks quite a bit about his model and about history. He says that when there is too wide a disparity between the elite and the common citizens, societal breakdown is very likely.

      One thing you might find interesting is when he talks about “America as a Plutocracy, pages 124-125.” He says he uses this term as a shorthand for a state dominated by its economic elites. (The literal rule plutocracy is “rule of wealth.”)

      In his view, at the top of the pyramid power in America is the corporate community: the owners and managers of large income-producing assets, such as corporations, banks, and law law firms. Several corporate sectors are so influential and cohesive in their influence on public policy that, over the years, they have acquired such names as the military-industrial complex, the FIRE sector, the energy sector, Silicon Valley, Big Food, Big Pharma, the medical-industrial complex, and the educational-industrial complex.

      These groups extend their influence partly by lobbying and partly by running for political office. He also talks about the revolving door of regulators moving fro industry to the corporate community and back. The corporate community also controls the ownership of the mass media corporations and a policy -planning network of private foundations, think tanks, and policy-discussion groups.

      With respect to the military, he notes that they are indoctrinated into a culture of obedience to their commanding political leaders. At the highest levels, generals and admirals look forward to occupying well-compensated post-retirement positions on the boards of the companies that live off government contracts.

      Conspiracy Versus Science (pages 126-129)

      Turchin says that while there are some conspiracies, economic elites are organized far differently than military elites. They have a common interest in making money, but that is about all. There is no center of power. They work together on boards, so they become aware of what each other wants.

      Affluence and Influence (page 129-131)

      Turchin quotes a study by Martin Gilens and Benjamin I. Page, “Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens,” Perspectives on Politics 12. no. 3 (2014): 564-581, https://doi.org/10.1017/s1537592714001595. (Free online!)

      This study looked at the relative influence of three different groups on proposed policy changes between 1981 and 2002: (a) The poor (the lowest decile of the income distribution, (b) the typical (the median of the income distribution), and (c) the affluent (the top 10 percent). In the analysis, the influence of various interest groups was also considered.

      What was astounding was that the views of the poor and even of the typical person had no impact on policy changes. The main difference was the views of the affluent. He says, “Once you include in the statistical model the preferences of the top 10 percent and the interest groups, the effect of the commoners is statistically indistinguishable from zero.”

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Thanks … sounds like no new revelations … maybe he could write a book called UEP

        • I think that the Gilens reference might be useful.

          The reason people get so angry is because the common views are pretty much ignored.

          Another section talked about immigration. Owners of big corporations like lots of immigration, because it reduces labor costs. Common citizens don’t like immigration because of the competition for their own jobs, and the lowering of their income prospects.

  13. Mirror on the wall says:

    Everyone is waiting to see if it all majorly kicks off in the region. The surrounding countries all seem to be pro-Palestine but are they up for it? USA/ UK forces are moving into the area.

    • Video says:

      Israeli strikes knocked two main Syrian airports out of service. Massive escalation fears. Israel hammers Gaza City. Syrian government led by Iran-Backed Bashar Al-Assad. the simultaneous strikes affected both airports. Hamas and Israel continued fighting on sixth day. Bashar Al-Assad asked Iran and other Arab states to cooperate in confronting Israel.

      The strikes in Syria are being viewed as a desperate attempt to divert attention away from the Hamas conflict in Gaza. Israel has launched hundreds of air strikes into Syria during more than a decade of Civil War. Israel primarily targets Iran-backed forces.

      If Israel gets lots of Arab nations angry, it clearly cannot fight the war by itself. Israel’s allies don’t really have the fire power to win, I am afraid.

  14. Ed says:

    The US federal government is agreeing Iran had no knowledge of the attempt to break out of the prison of Gaza. Good job China your puppet Joe is doing his job. Normally a president would go with the lie.

    • This article starts out

      “British Columbia (Canada)-based Dr. Charles Hoffe said in July 2021 that tiny blood clots in the capillaries will ultimately kill all vaxxed people within two years of their last injection. This has been mostly true since Dr. Hoffe said it.”

      This is clearly an overstatement. The death rate has been nowhere nearly that high.

      • Java says:

        I swear a lot of people walking about are just a hair’s width from being zombies. They may not be dead, but not really alive either.

        • Jan says:

          There is a German scientist Michael Nehls, who tries to explain this effect. The fear and panic modus (acting similar to PTSD) overwrites the access to memory in the hypophysis and thus creates another personality and personal past.

          https://michael-nehls.de/?lang=en

          Besides there is evidence that the jab caused inflammation in at least one case has totally removed the hypophysis.

      • chngtg says:

        I don’t trust any numbers coming out from anywhere, be it death, etc. It seems like nothing is real.

        The only surprise I am still having is that the crude oil numbers and other “critical” numbers like API crude inventories, etc. Why can’t they just fake it?

  15. One of the most stupid things ever done was John Hay’s “Open Door Policy” against China.

    In late 19th century, the corrupt Manchu dynasty was at the last of its legs, and England, France, Japan, Russia and even Germany (the Tsingtao beer came from the German brewery built in Shantung province) had designs in China.

    But John Hay, the US State Dept Secretary, ‘proposed’ an Open Door Policy, which is the most stupid thing USA ever did, even more than the intervention in the Great War or the Vietnam War.

    He unilaterally guaranteed “Chinese territorial integrity” without asking anyone who had an interest in China.

    We now know how stupid this decision was.

    If he didn’t do this stupid thing, the only nonwhite country on earth now would have been Japan (plus parts of what used to be Manchuria and Korea and Taiwan), which is allowed to exist for genetic variety, and everywhere else would have been ruled by the various colonial powers to this day.;

    Countries like Abyssinia, Afghanistan or Thailand were nominally independent but were on the thumb of major powers, and China would not have existed, carved up into a bunch of foreign territories and some inland provinces which were so barren that no one would have wasted any time there.

    European powers should have ignored Hay’s bleatings and completed the carving of China once for all, so it would never unite again, ever.

    A misguided US idealism f’king up the future of the world once for all. I think the Roosevelts shoudl not have been fooled by Chiang Kaishek and his wife and let Japan have China, but that is another story.

  16. MikeJones says:

    By Reuters
    To own a car in Singapore, a buyer must bid for a certificate that now costs $106,000, equivalent to four Toyota Camry Hybrids in the U.S., as a post-pandemic recovery has driven up the cost of the city-state’s vehicle quota system to all-time highs.

    Singapore has a 10-year “certificate of entitlement” (COE) system, introduced in 1990, to control the number of vehicles in the small country, which is home to 5.9 million people and can be driven across in less than an hour.

    The quota, offered through a bidding process, has made it the most expensive city in the world to buy a car, with the COE for a large car more than quadrupling from 2020 prices on Wednesday to a record $106,376.68.

    Including COE, registration fees and taxes, a new standard Toyota Camry Hybrid currently costs $183,000 in Singapore, compared with $28,855 in the U.S. The cost of buying that Camry in Singapore is about double the price of a small, government-subsidised flat in the country.

    In 2020, when fewer people in Singapore were driving, the price of COEs dropped; a post-Covid increase in economic activity has led to more car purchases while the total number of vehicles on the road is capped at about 950,000. The number of new COEs available depends on how many older cars are deregistered.

    The skyrocketing price puts cars firmly out of reach for most middle-class Singaporeans, putting a dent in what sociologist Tan Ern Ser said was the “Singapore Dream” of upward social mobility — having cash, a condominium and a car.

    Rickshaws coming back soon 🐥🍼 Baby

    • Should be the case for Calcutta, Batavia or Leopoldville.

    • Wow! I have never heard of that approach to reducing auto traffic. Cars for only the richest!

      • powered transport has always been the preserve pf the rich

        the last century has been an anomaly

        • 7.9 billion should go back to walkking

        • My grandmother (father’s mother), when and my grandfather moved to Madagascar back in the 1910 to 1915 era, was carried in a chair with poles carried by four men. I guess you would call that “powered transport”. https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/palanquin

          My grandmother was a newly wed at the time. I suppose she thought having this kind of travel and several household servants was a better lifestyle than she would get many other places. (She grew up in Norway, but met my Grandfather (who was also from Norway) in the US.) In Madagascar, the kids were sent off to boarding school at age 6. My grandmother could get involved in all kinds of do-good activities, such as teaching better hygiene, in Madagascar.

          • yes it was powered transport

            because above food energy consumed by your grandmother
            the food for four other people had to be paid for as well

            but the equation was, that her lifestyle was 4x better than her pole carriers in rough terms—i assume they were not forced, so they chose that employment for their benefit too.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      One does not need a car in Singapore … it’s a small island with excellent public transportation.

      Hong Kong is similar – I lived there for 2 decades and never owned a car…. most people I know in HK do not own cars … it’s easier and cheaper to take public transport… UBER or a cab….

      • Mike Jones says:

        Don’t believe the ultra wealthy feel the same.
        Slumming among the rif raf rubs them and the thought of being among them..

    • Tim Groves says:

      There is nowhere to drive in Singapore. Take the MRT. Take a bus. Take a taxi. Ride a bike. It’s only 50km from east to west, and most people live in the middle bit.

      • Mike Jones says:

        Not for the super rich..these plenty of places to go to you aren’t allowed

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Orchard Towers?

        • Tim Groves says:

          How do you know I’m not the super rich. Just because I don’t sail around in a yacht or hang out with the Davos crowd…. I might be a super-rich agoraphobic.

          About 40 years ago, I stayed for a few nights at the home of a friend’s parents in Singapore that had a spacious garden and a swimming pool. The father, Chinese Singaporean, told me that the only reason they could afford the place was that his father built it half a century before that time.

          Already, by 1980, it was becoming almost impossible for the non-super rich in Singapore to own a detached house in its own grounds, or to get permission to build one. And already, by that time, there was a law that prevented people from obtaining a new car without disposing of an old one.

          And Singapore’s population has more than doubled since 1980.

          • MikeJones says:

            How do I know…silly question…just read the article…the demand for the bidding for the privilege of car ownership certificate has reached record levels where only the exclusive upper class can only attain…
            Wonder if investor Jim Rogers, resident of the Singapore, has one himself..?

  17. el mar says:

    Armageddon Days Are Here (Again)
    The The

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6wa-qOb8eI

    Are you right here Jesus? Ah
    Buddha? Yeah
    Muhammad? Okay
    But all right friends, lets go
    They’re 5 miles high as the crow flies
    Leavin’ vapor trails against a blood red sky
    Movin’ in from the east toward the west
    With balaclava helmets over their heads, yes
    But if you think that Jesus Christ is coming
    Honey you’ve got another thing coming
    If he ever finds out who’s hijacked his name
    He’ll cut out his heart and turn in his grave
    Islam is rising, the Christians mobilizing
    The world is on its elbows and knees
    It’s forgotten the message and worships the creeds
    It’s war, she cried, it’s war, she cried, this is war
    Drop your possessions, all you simple folk
    You will fight them on the beaches in your underclothes
    You will thank the good Lord for raising the union jack
    You’ll watch the ships sail out of harbor
    And the bodies come floating back
    Watch the ships sail out of harbor
    And the bodies come floating back
    But if you think that Jesus Christ is coming
    Honey you’ve got another thing coming
    If he ever finds out who’s hijacked his name
    He’ll cut out his heart and turn in his grave
    Islam is rising, the Christians mobilizing
    The world is on its elbows and knees
    It’s forgotten the message and worships the creeds
    If the real Jesus Christ were to stand up today
    He’d be gunned down cold by the C.I.A
    Oh, the lights that now burn brightest behind stained glass
    Will cast the darkest shadows upon the human heart
    But God didn’t build himself that throne
    God doesn’t live in Israel or Rome
    God doesn’t belong to the Yankee dollar
    God doesn’t plant the bombs for Hezbollah
    God doesn’t even go to church
    And God won’t send us down to Allah to burn
    No, God will remind us what we already know
    That the human race is about to reap what it’s sown
    Islam is rising, the Christians mobilizing
    The world is on its elbows and knees
    It’s forgotten the message and worships the creeds
    The world is on its elbows and knees
    It’s forgotten the message and worships the creeds
    The world is on its elbows and knees
    It’s forgotten the message and worships the creeds
    The world is on its elbows and knees
    It’s forgotten the message and worships the creeds
    Armageddon days are here again
    Armageddon days are here again
    Armageddon days are here again
    Armageddon days are here

  18. davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:
    • ivanislav says:

      Yes, but see the cause – I commented below. Russia should survive militarily and economically, but to thrive in the next decade, they need to finally address and overcome some structural issues that they have for whatever reason been either reluctant or unable to.

      • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

        okay I see your reasoning.

        on this comment, I’m sure they are “addressing” things much more rationally than the psychowoketard West.

  19. Tim Groves says:

    Mike Yeadon writes:
    October 11, 2023

    You may remember I was very concerned to see the rise and acceptance of the pandemic emergency planning industry in recent years.

    The most dramatic examples were pulled together by German Journalist, Paul Schreyer. He used public domain sources and tracked tabletop simulations, starting in the late 1990s and continuing every couple of years right up to 2019.

    Why was I concerned?

    I looked at what we were told could happen by those running the simulations & concluded that pandemics of severe respiratory illnesses was between implausible and impossible.

    Far from being reassured that the authorities were ahead of events, I became alarmed that they were investing heavily in scenarios that cannot happen.

    It is with great interest that I noticed this paragraph in a paper from Denis Rancourt’s team:

    “Interestingly, none of the post-second-world-war Centers-for-Disease-Control-and-Prevention-promoted (CDC‑promoted) viral respiratory disease pandemics (1957-58, “H2N2”; 1968, “H3N2”; 2009, “H1N1 again”) can be detected in the all‑cause mortality of any country. Unlike all the other causes of death that are known to affect mortality, these so‑called pandemics did not cause any detectable increase in mortality, anywhere”.

    Bottom line, the claimed pandemics are made up.

    The tabletop simulations are clearly rehearsals for lying to the population and then using the declarations of a public health emergency in order to impose oppressive measures.

    They’re going to do it again.

    We know this not only because crooks like Bill Gates have said so (“When the next pandemic hits, Pandemic 2, I call this Pandemic 1…”), but because it’s all over the media and we see WHO & the EU telling us that they’re setting up a travel pass system that’s a Vaccine passport system.

    Furthermore, we hear that new manufacturing plants to rapidly make billions of doses of mRNA based “vaccines” all over the world. These are axiomatically and intentionally harmful.

    Independently of research into what happened in all the recent claimed pandemics, I had reasoned that in relation to severe respiratory illnesses, they simply cannot and do not happen.

    Even if you accept the model of transmission of acute respiratory illnesses, which I no longer do, the more severe the symptoms, the more secure you can be that the most infectious people will withdraw from circulation in society and this terminates transmission.

    In practise anyway, I’ve not seen convincing evidence of person to person transmission.

    It’s merely assumed to have occurred when epidemiological analyses are performed. Based on PCR and not on symptoms at presentation, the case numbers are completely meaningless.

    Please try not to be concerned or frightened by the lies they’ll tell you.

    Obviously, we’re all very concerned that these events are being brought in at all.

    As I’ve long said, there’s no possible benign interpretation of what’s been going on since eariy 2020.

    Best wishes,

    Mike

    • I AM THE MOB says:

      There’s something happening here
      But what it is ain’t exactly clear
      There’s a man with a gun over there
      Telling me I got to “beware”..

      (apologizes to Buffalo Springfield)

    • Java says:

      What about the 2003 SARS outbreak which was quite deadly for a short spell?

      • Fast Eddy says:

        I was in Hong Kong during SARS…

        How do we know it was deadly?

        Why did it not spread beyond Hong Kong and south China?

        Covid apparently smashed Wuhan… but they allowed millions to return to their homes during Chinese New Year — and China did not get smashed… that was the beginning of the end of me believing the narrative…. it made no sense.

        • moss says:

          believing “THE” narrative

          I regard it from the premise that there is no “THE” narrative other than my own. Truth. I determine it in my own mind from my senses and my cultural frame (language, morals, traditions etc). It’s my interpretation of the world that some will call reality, but to me it’s an inner point of consciousness. We are all subject to delusion, brainwashing and deception but the fallability of my narrative remains unblemished.

          Separately we have adjendas and scheming and lying which others appear to deliberately enact towards one
          We can imagine these to be the designs of Socratic moneygrubbers, now known as oligarchs and their myrmidons of indebted moreons.

          preserving “THE” narrative

          Therefore let me hear none of your provocations … I merely request to be left in peace.
          The same applies to opinions, good, bad or indifferent, of persons in conversation or correspondence: these do not interrupt but they soil the current of my Mind. I am sensitive enough, but not till I’m touched; and here (Italy) I am beyond the touch of the short arms of literary England, except the few feelers of the Polypus that crawl over the Channel in the way of extract.

          Byron Letters Sept 24 1821

    • “Narratives” seem to be behind everything we believe. The narratives may or may not be anywhere near correct.

      Every action takes place for many reasons. Narratives emphasize the part of the story those pushing the narrative want you to believe.

    • Jan says:

      Very interesting, thanks!

  20. Fast Eddy says:

    As readers of my Substack know, I have, from the beginning, hypothesized and demonstrated how the Spike Protein of SARS-CoV-2 induces what I have called Spike Protein Endothelial Disease. Now, with a great deal of further research I will demonstrate how this invasion of the Endothelium by the Spike Protein destroys the Mitochondria, further inducing organ damage.

    https://wmcresearch.substack.com/p/mitochondrial-carpet-bombing-the

  21. ivanislav says:

    Russia introducing capital controls … improved Ruble strength, but shows systemic problems.

  22. Fast Eddy says:

    keith:

    hi there, I’m Travell. most folks call me Trav. I’m a 36 year old Bay Area native with a love for food (both cooking and eating), my family, my friends and life in general. I recently just had my world turn upside down and I could really use your help.

    On March 10, 2023, I suffered a seizure and a concussion, resulting in a nine day hospital stay, which then resulted in a hospital bill totaling $112,934.31. After some adjustments, the final amount total is now $67,760.59. Quite astronomical of a bill to say the least.

    My body isn’t producing enough red blood cells, so I had to have two blood transfusions in the hospital and a lump on my left lung was also detected through X-Rays. Luckily, it wasn’t cancerous. There’s also “white matter” showing up in scans of my brain, which is slight cause for concern as I’ve noticed my motor skills have been affected and my mood swings can be really heavy, which can also be linked to the severe depression i was diagnosed with. Lastly, there’s scarring on my liver, which is also very alarming.

    All of this happened after my mom suffered a major stroke and I took three weeks (unpaid) off of an already slow time at work to take care of some of her needs on the back end, as well as to gain some clarity, as dealing with a dying parent doesn’t do much for headspace. Coupled with my own extended absence (I needed time to recover once I was released, before I went back to work), my funds just depleted. When I got back to work, it was still slow. I eventually lost my job in late May and have been looking steadily since and it’s been hard.

    https://live2fightanotherday.substack.com/p/planning-on-getting-another-booster

    • Student says:

      Those who have not properly documented during last 3 years have put at serious risk own life.

      Among those people, the ones who didn’t have an adverse event or a deterioration of own health can consider theirselves very lucky.
      On the contrary, those who have been hit by an adverse event had their life devasted.
      And those who died are there watching us and reminding us what crime our societies have made.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        The MOREONS are fond of saying – I am boosted and I feel fine (except the don’t feel quite right but they blame that on long covid)… and they take more boosters

        It’s like saying I pulled the trigger and my head didn’t blow off playing Russian Roulette… then they pull the trigger again and again … till they get a live round in the head.

        This is Pure MOREONISM… one has to be profoundly stoooopid to believe this is logical… so f789ing dummmb I would be surprised if they could tie their shoes or boil an egg

    • Lastcall says:

      The sky is falling, the sky is falling.

      A timeless fable. This use to be the job of the town crier, then the sandwich board people. Now its the unsocial media doing the heavy lifting.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        The sky was supposed to fall last year according to Geeta hahahaha…

        And 10 years ago according to Gore… and Leo

        Now why build a sea level resort … if you believe the sky is about to fall …

        Why steam oil out of sand if there is so much easy oil left…

        Why drive an EV when it’s made using fossil fuels and powered by coal….

        Why spend billions on the Orion space craft to create a vessel that can transport humans through the Van Allan Belts — when we already did that multiple times 50+ years ago….

  23. Student says:

    Good short recap of the historical background of Palestine and how we arrive here.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/9/whats-the-israel-palestine-conflict-about-a-simple-guide

    • Hubbs says:

      I have to say I empathize with the Palestinians and understand their rabid hatred of Jews. I have the same feelings towards lawyers and judges here in the US. They destroy people’s lives and are unaccountable for even the most atrocious acts of ethics and incompetency. And you can’t sue them. Their profession is a collective which protects their interests.

      “Very few people on this earth despise lawyers as much as I…” My Medical-Legal Back Pages. Archway.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Yes but they’d do the same thing if the shoe was on the other foot… humans always do

      • Cromagnon says:

        I suspect we are kindred spirits then because I dearly love to witness mass impalement of the entire judiciary of the western world.
        Every,….single,….one

        When some moron says they believe in “law and order” my eyes narrow and I begin to wonder what they would taste like after a little open air rotisserie time.

    • Hubbs says:

      According to Scott Ritter US MC Col. in a very passionate interview, Gerald Celente has properly described Gaza as a “concentration camp,” hypocritically what the the Jews decry happened to them. Even if Gaza was still better than a WWII concentration camp, it probably will not be after the IDF flattens it. At least we can say Gaza is NOT a “prison camp,” as that implies the Palestinians have committed crimes. The only crimes they have committed are being born in Gaza.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs7cQQ5vnf4 @23:00

      Brian Berletic also distinguishes the right of Palestinians to militarily attack Israel and its military who have invaded Gaza and taken the Palestinians’ land and homes but carefully distinguishes military action from Hamas’s terrorism with slaughter of non-combatant civilians.

      • I haven’t been to Gaza, but I have been to the West Bank. I can very much believe that Gaza is like a concentration camp. The Jews do not treat the Palestinians at all well.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          The situation in Israel was instrumental in forming my world view… which at one point involving feeling rage against the JOOOS for f789ing over the Gazas… how could they do such things after being f789ed over themselves for centuries…

          I then realized this is what humans do… the Gazas would f789 the JOOOS if they could… just like the freed slaves from America who were sent to Africa enslaved the Africans hahahaha

          We are vile cruel beasts… there is only one solution… and it ain’t the UN.

      • Some peoples are criminals because they were born in some locales

        For example, all Serbs are war criminals, because of Gabby princip.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Hypocrisy and cheap energy make the world go round

    • Covers many different pieces of the story. The last panel says the unemployment rate in Gaza is 45%, and 64% of households are food insecure.

      • Jan says:

        I don’t want to blame anyone and I think the UN is needed to stop the war. But to be able to solve problems, we must be allowed to address them.

        Palestine is more or less a desert. Despite that, the number of inhabitants rose from 1990 to 2022 from 1,98 to 5,04 Mio or 155% in 32 years. 77% live in cities. In the same timeframe the average growth worldwide was 50%. Remittances from migrants abroad grew from 14% to 21% of GDP.

  24. postkey says:

    “Patrick Byrne has posted a thread on X suggesting that Hamas was able to invade and launch missiles into Israel due to ongoing cyberattacks against the State of Israel beginning last March that had compromised and taken out several Israeli government agencies and assets, including Israel’s vaunted Iron Dome air defense system: “?

    https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/israel-was-hacked/

  25. postkey says:

    “The artificial intelligence (AI) industry could consume as much energy as a country the size of the Netherlands by 2027, a new study warns.”?
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-67053139

  26. I AM THE MOB says:

    America needs to change, not into something new. But what it used to be..

  27. Bobby says:

    Are current events in the ME Palestinian conflict deep faked to increase energy

    • ask eddy

      hie is keeper of the fakes

      knows what is and what isn’t

      • chngtg says:

        ask eddy

        hie is keeper of the fakes

        Norman, so you think that BBC and CNN does not tell any lies or any deep fakes?

        • ctg

          the BBC and CNN tell me that our living in a artificial simulation is total and utter BS

          those who believe it are deepfaking themselves

          they need no outside help

          • chngtg says:

            content-less response

            you know it is my CTG, so you are not senile and cannot hide behind “being old”

            • i fail to see what age has got to do with it

              you said many times, that we live in a ‘simulation”—i was content to make no comment either way on that—it was your business, nothing to do with me,

              until you have the effrontery to accuse me of believing all the lies of BBC and CNN

              When you expect me to believe such childish crap of monumental propoprtions, that it defies belief at any level.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              norm is so old that he still believes man has walked on the moon.

              Meanwhile … seems raising rates ain’t helping… that’s cuz… we want to grow .. so their is great demand for energy … but we are into deep depletion on remaining cheap energy …

              The pundits are looking for reasons to explain this phenomenon … nobody will acknowledge the horrifying demon in the room

              https://mishtalk.com/economics/cpi-rises-more-than-expected-as-rent-jumps-another-0-6-percent/

          • Fast Eddy says:

            what about Huff?

          • hkeithhenson says:

            “our living in a artificial simulation {

            If it is a good simulation, then you can’t tell.

            Nick Bostrom (I think) has made an argument that you should not try to break the simulation (if there is one). I think his argument is that doing so might cause the sysop to shut the whole thing down.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          DelusiSTAN is part of the simulation … notice how you can show someone a clip of a plane flying through a skyscraper — coming out the other side intact…

          And still.. and still… they will believe whatever cnnbbc tell them.

          It’s like norm getting all drunked up … reaching into his pocket to see if he has any spare change… heading Out Back the Dumpster… and finding SSS hooked up with 3 hobos… thinking she was loyal… turning around and walking back… convincing himself he did not see what he saw

          Quite fascinating … must be a simulation … what else can explain it

          • i always know when eddys limited reasoning power fails altogether

            he trots out the subject that he knows from experience to be the ultimate fake

            check ofw archives as far back as you like–recurs time after time

            whenever i write a comment that might prod eddy—i know in advance the context of his reaction

            s.e.x.—are you really so used to it being faked eddy

            certain–every time

  28. Ed says:

    Let’s move all Palestinians from Palestine to the US for peace. All 7.5 million.

    • Ed says:

      Let’s do it for Israel.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        The obvious solution is extermination. That solves both sides problems… death is a solution

        • ivanislav says:

          Douglas Macgregor said “sometimes you just have to fight it out”, referring generically to nations with longstanding grievances. Maybe that applies here.

          • Zemi says:

            Palestine can’t survive in the medium term. Israel can’t survive in the long term. Conundrum. Maybe we should send them all to Musk’s planned Martian colony.

          • Hubbs says:

            Best article I read on this topic came from Brandon Smith of alt-media.us
            He writes for the Birch Group.
            This is the only remanant of his original 2014 article I can find.

            https://ncrenegade.com/violence-in-the-face-of-tyranny-is-often-necessary/

            I remind you that in 1939, Finland had a fairly homogeneous population relative to what the US and Europe now have.

            Nothing is going to change if we try to rely on “peacefully” protesting, voting, or pursue other legal, political or constitutional remedies. They are all ploys by the Globalists and parasitic politician errand boys to make us think we can effect change.
            Not without violence.
            No doubt an all out conflagration to take out the globalistsl by searching them out from their homes and hideaways and lynching them as well as an ethnic and socioeconomic civil war would ensue, followed by a violent Reign of Terror, Robiespiere -like. It’s what happens when there is no longer rule of law and shortages of food, energy and shelter.
            Woe to anyone who is not armed to the teeth.

  29. Mike Jones says:

    Argentina is Now on Fire | World Wide Chaos

    ThisisJohnWilliams

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cUEP5r2M7iQ

    Not only there, everywhere

    • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

      natural disasters once had a billion human targets many decades ago, but now there are 8 billion targets, and a proportional increase in infrastructure as well.

      of course more people die nowadays from natural disasters.

      of course more billion$ of infrastructure are destroyed nowadays.

      but Klimate Princesses are gonna get all teary eyed.

      boo hoo.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        These fires are caused by Long Covid

        This is blowback cuz not enough are taking the Boosters… not that it matters cuz they are tick tocking towards the cliff after one

    • Lastcall says:

      Pimple on the ass of an elephant.
      Planet earth will soak this up like early morning dew on a summers day.

      ‘The Oruanui eruption was the world’s largest known eruption in the past 70,000 years, with a Volcanic Explosivity Index (VEI) of 8. It occurred around 26,500 years ago and deposited approximately 1,200 km³ of material.’

      ‘The latest Taupō eruption, in about 232 CE, was much smaller than Ōruanui. Even so, it was several times larger than the 1883 eruption of Krakatau (Krakatoa) in Indonesia.’

      and;
      ‘The records of ancient China and Rome refer to events in ∼AD 186 of the type which follow a major volcanic eruption, and we present here reasons for considering that these events were due to the Taupo eruption, and that the true date of the eruption is ∼AD 186’

      Now I doubt the Chinese are recording this little Argentinian flare-up, which probably started when an e-scooter went rogue.

  30. chngtg says:

    With reference to what Gail has written…..

    Besides the financial issues, there is the issue that we don’t necessarily get the benefit of the oil that is available. The energy gets shared differently. Oil supply from Asia doesn’t get over to the Americas, after some point. It takes oil to transport oil. The most efficient economies likely do best.

    The most efficient economies likely do best….

    This sentence applies to the economies for a short while, maybe days?? (see Korowicz). Most people make linear projection into the future. During the 1970s oil crisis, the oil shortfall was just a small number. I cannot recall but perhaps <10% but the price shot up a few folds. I would say that things are not always linear, then people would say "I did not see it coming".

    Even if the country with the most resources say "I am not going to export anymore", will there might be a war? the Western countries decide not to share knowledge and critical tools that is required for the resource extraction and extraction stops?

    Yes the efficient one will do best but probably only for a short while.

    • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

      yes the Seneca Cliff illustrates what a non-linear decline might look like.

      so perhaps instead of bAU out to 2070, maybe it will only last another decade or two.

      it looks like The Core will have the means to be more efficient than the smaller weaker countries of The Periphery.

      but as some great philosopher once asked:
       
      who cares?

    • Today’s rich countries are the ones at risk of losing their lead. Many young people from around the world have been educated with respect to today’s technology. People from poorer nations are quite capable of picking up and taking over some of the things that we think we are specializing in.

      The more efficient economies don’t spend a huge share of their output on heating and cooling homes. They also don’t spend much of welfare payments to the non-working, or on Social Security for older citizens. People will need to work as long as they are able. Health care will need to take a much smaller share of GDP also.

      • what you’re effectively saying is that granny wont get a replacement hip at 85, and your ”less than viable” baby will be allowed to die.

        not disagreeing with that—just stating the reality of it

  31. Mirror on the wall says:

    Pravda calls ‘BS’ on the alleged Hamas massacre of civilians. The British MSM is constantly running with that story days later and ignores the indiscriminate attacks on Gaza. We saw a tsunami of state propaganda over UKR.

    https://english.pravda.ru/news/hotspots/157906-kfar_aza_massacre/

    Kfar Aza massacre: Butchered and beheaded children fake news to demonise Hamas?

    A spokeswoman for the Israeli army said that there was no reliable information about the brutal killings of 200 people and the beheadings of infants in the Israeli kibbutz of Kfar Aza. The gruesome news was reported by i24 News correspondent Nicole Zedeck.

    “We saw this news, but we do not have either any details or confirmation of this information,” a spokeswoman for an Israeli army unit said commenting on the veracity of the reports.

    On October 10 it was reported that the Israeli military allegedly discovered the bodies of beheaded babies. However, neither photographic nor video evidence was provided. The correspondent stated that she took the military at their word.

    The channel later published a video with deputy commander of the 71st IDF Paratroopers Detachment, Davidi Ben Zion, who spoke about “hundreds of killed civilians, including babies and children.”

    “[Hamas fighters] killed them and cut off the heads of some of the victims. It’s terrible to see that… and we all must remember who the enemy is and what our mission is, where the right cause is, and the whole world must be for us,” Davidi Ben Zion said.

    No objective evidence to prove Kfar Aza massacre

    However, Western media could not obtain objective evidence of the Kfar Aza masaacre. Ben Zion said the same in an interview with BBC correspondent Jeremy Bowen. The journalist noted that he never asked the officer to show him the bodies of the dead to confirm that they were indeed the bodies of civilians rather than Hamas militants.

    The brutal slaughter of hundreds of civilians by Hamas attackers is a gross violation of the laws of war, Jeremy Bowen noted. However, the Israelis reject any comparison between the way Hamas fighters kill civilians and the way Palestinian civilians die as a result of Israeli airstrikes, the British journalist concluded. He confirmed that he had not seen any objective data about the alleged atrocities that Hamas militants committed.

    CNN reached out to the Israeli military for comment. The Israeli military could not confirm the exact number of victims nor would they go into detail about how those people were killed, CNN said.

    Conflicting parties dehumanise enemy

    Methods of black propaganda are commonplace in times of war. Conflicting parties try to dehumanise the enemy to make the public think of the enemy as a cruel aggressor that commits most barbaric atrocities. The purpose of this technique is to instil hatred in the general public for support and unity.

    Noteworthy, the enemy demonisation technique has been used since the times of WWI. One of the most commonly known myths is the story of the crucified Canadian soldier who was allegedly captured by German soldiers during the Battle of Ypres on April 24, 1915. The Times published an article on May 10, 1915 saying that the Germans crucified him on a tree. After the war, the German public demanded the Britons should prove the crucifixion episode. The British could only provide unconvincing eyewitness accounts.

  32. Student says:

    (Irish Times + others)

    The family of the Scottish prime minister’s wife is blocked in Gaza. He gave an interview a short while ago on Al Jazeera.
    Here is a link; there are many on the web.
    It’s a typical western short circuit.
    We are supporting Israel with mainstream media, but our European suburbs are with Arab people and in Scotland I have the impression that the Prime Minister too.
    There is a clear unbalance of narrative with reality, mainstream media thinks that the society is like in the ’70s , but it is not any more.

    https://www.irishnews.com/news/uknews/2023/10/11/news/yousaf_s_wife_living_in_a_nightmare_over_worry_for_parents_trapped_in_gaza-3691267/

    • Zemi says:

      I want both sides to lose. A plague on both their houses, I say.

      • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

        this is an elegant idea.

        in trying to picture how this could come about, the one scenario I thought of was a nuclear war, WW3.

        I’m pretty sure all sides would “lose” then.

        otherwise, The Siege of Gaza leads to their defeat, and then a regional war would have to lead to the end of Israel as a nation.

        time will tell.

      • Student says:

        In my view the risk here is to confuse Palestinian people with Hamas

        • Student says:

          It is useful to obtain some background listening also to the other side.
          In this doc. some historical facts are explained in a good way.
          The problem is maybe the way that State has been created and the fact that another one was not created at the same time.
          But in my opinion, after world war II, maybe, instead of creating a State belonging to a single Religion and to a single ethnic group, they should have created a multicultural and multireligious State, reflecting the kind of people were already living there.
          US and UK made a mistake in my view in creating a single entity after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire.
          If you read Israeli newspaper like Haaretz you will be surprised how Jews don’t have just a single opinion.
          At Al Jazeera yesterday, an important Israeli Journalist called fas#ist the current Israeli government and same thing said a member of the Parliament the other day.
          The opinions and facts are more complex.
          In my view, we made a mistake giving importance just to the most extreme side in Israel.
          The siituation is more complex than we think and in this blog we have learnt that it is necessary to learn things to understand reality.
          So we should do the same to understand what happen there.

          • and who might ”they” be?

            • Student says:

              The ones who created that State in 1948.
              I see that you lack of some info about this argument, please let me warmly suggest to watch the doc.
              Kind regards

            • Perhaps we should go back to the Balfour declaration of 1917?
              ///////The Balfour Declaration was a public statement issued by the British government in 1917 during the First World War announcing its support for the establishment of a “national home for the Jewish people” in Palestine, then an Ottoman region with a small minority Jewish population. The declaration was contained in a letter dated 2 November 1917 from the United Kingdom’s Foreign Secretary Arthur Balfour to Lord Rothschild, a leader of the British Jewish community, for transmission to the Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland. The text of the declaration was published in the press on 9 November 1917.///////

              or—Isaiah 11:12

              /////He will raise a signal for the nations and will assemble the banished of Israel, and gather the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth./////

              I am not a godbotherer, but the bible does come up with some interesting bits.

              Or the ejection of the Jews from Palestine by the Romans around 150AD?

              I can give you chapter and verse if you want.

              The ‘They’ of those times are long dead, Creation of the Jewish state was seen as the only viable option to solve the Jewish problem.

              We can all solve political problems in hindsight.

              “they” cannot interfere in what is happening now.

              The Jewish people, for whatever reasons, have suffered down the millennia, on the back of a religious myth–no one can pin down a precise reason for it all. Israel has been foisted on ourselves, by ourselves.
              Part of the accumulated rubbish pile of history—no “they” involved.

              The Jews were persecuted….this meant that only the smartest ones lived.
              By the processes of natural selection, if smart people breed with smart people–you tend to get even smarter people.

              Which, in the world we live in, tends to accumulate the most wealth.–or they make atom bombs—or both.
              That inevitably fuels resentment.

              you can check out my hypothesis for yourself.

            • Foolish Fitz says:

              Norman, when you’re argument depends on a book of fiction, why bother.

              It’s not and never has been their land. They’re mainly of European decent(now spread around all lands we genocided. Mostly the U.S).

              “More recent studies of the distribution of mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) which, like Judaism is passed along the maternal line, indicate that Ashkenazi mtDNA is highly distinctive, with four major and numerous minor founders. All four founders, ~40% of Ashkenazi mtDNA variation, have ancestry in prehistoric Europe, rather than the Near East or Caucasus. Furthermore, most of the remaining minor founders, share a similar deep European ancestry. Thus, the great majority of Ashkenazi maternal lineages are assimilated within Europe (Figure (Figure5).5).”

              https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4301023/

              Or as someone else put it

              “DNA research has proven that ALL Palestinians share DNA markers with ancient (I.e,—pre-Israelite) Canaanites, while Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews do not have even a smattering of such genetic markers.

              In other words: the Sephardim and Ashkenazis are descended from regional converts to Judeism, while the Palestinians are descendants of the native peoples who have inhabited that region since Sumeria ruled that world.

              IOW, this is just one more instance of White People from Europe wiping out a native, indigenous population to create for themselves a bloody fiefdom of slaves and imagined luxury.”

              Just for arguments sake, if Palestine(that has a traceable 4000 year history) was so important, because of the words in a fictional book(rewritten umpteen times to suit whomever had power at the time) why did they originally try to settle in Madagascar?
              The Jewish people of the time, when asked, would reply, why do I want to move, I’m European and this is my home. It was only a tiny powerful group that was pushing the idea.

              Look, it says so in the bible, so must be true. Seriously ?😂

              If you’re into fiction, check out the description of ‘their land’ and then try to match that up on a map(rivers/mountais). Let me know where you think matches closest.

            • relative to the ”book of fiction”

              to quote me from above:
              ////The Jewish people, for whatever reasons, have suffered down the millennia, on the back of a religious myth/////

              I do wish you would read comments before leaping eagerly into the abyss of conclusion.

              In particular the word ‘myth’.

              quoting the bible has no bearing in belief in it

              do try harder

            • Tim Groves says:

              Norman goes Biblical!

              I never thought I’d live to see the day.

              Next, you’ll be telling us that the world was made in six days and Methuselah lived until the age of 969 years.

              Must be true, or it wouldn’t be in the Bible, would it?

              Your mention of Balfour’s letter gives a bit of perspective on why some people call the State of Israel, Rothschildia.

            • now now tim

              in the past youve tried to give me a bashing for bashing the bible bashers

              could it be that you’ll grasp at any straw to prove your (imagined) superiority? You’ll be mis-spelling moron next?

              comments are formed from many sources, not the aspect of tunnel vision.

              those sources exist. Disprove them if you choose.

              The forces that created the jewish state are too many and various to be defined even with our combined intellects.

              I merely offered what is.

              Not What if, as so many do.

              You obviously missed that

            • Student says:

              That is interesting Foolish Fizz, actually following the Israeli debates on newspapers the most moderate Jews seem to me the Mizrahi and then Sephardic (Let’s don’t forget that Spain was under Arabs in the past) while Askenazi are often more hard in respect to their relationship with Palestinian people.
              My guess is that historically they have never experienced a past mutual peaceful relationship or maybe never experienced any mutual relationship at all.
              https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/sephardic-ashkenazic-mizrahi-jews-jewish-ethnic-diversity/

            • Foolish Fitz says:

              Very interesting point about Mizrahi and then Sephardic. It seems they had no problem living with the Muslims(much like in Palestine before certain groups stuck their noses in).

              “During this period, Sephardic Jews reached the highest echelons of secular government and the military. Many Jews gained renown in non-Jewish circles as poets, scholars, and physicians”

              “The Sephardic Golden Age ended when Christian princes consolidated their kingdoms and reestablished Christian rule throughout Spain and Portugal”

              The picture that goes with these words is quite revealing about the diversity.
              “Refugee Jews from Kurdistan in Tehran, 1950.”

              How did we get to where we are now, with one foreign group claiming dominion over all, based on a clearly fraudulent ethnic superiority. A kind of master race.

              I feel that’s been tried before somewhere. Maybe the name will give us a clue.

              Askenazi

            • Tim Groves says:

              Norman wants to have his cake and eat it! He want’s the Bible to be literally true and a bunch of bilge at the same time.

              Hear now the wise words of Richard Dawkins.

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mE8bdEt1o7w

            • as methuselah once said to me

              ”i hope i look as good as you when i’m 969”

        • Foolish Fitz says:

          Some interesting thoughts on that distinction and how it’s used to distort, that might interest you Student.

          “Gaza is a concentration camp for 2 million people, half of them children. Israel is an apartheid state, a rogue nuclear power, a place literally built on ongoing murder and theft. There aren’t ‘two sides’ here, unless you mean two sides of a concentration camp wall. Now Israel has cut off food and water to the concentration camp and are bombing it from above. The US has surrounded Gaza with aircraft carriers. Who’s the oppressed and who’s doing the oppressing here? They’ve got you all fucked up.”

          “The word Hamas is actually a meaningless stand in for the media audience at home. It just means ‘swarthy, scary Muslims’ without saying that. Just the latest villain trotted out into the Cable TV Colosseum, to justify all the killing the Empire does all around. It was the USSR, it was Al Qaeda, it was ISIS, it’s always somebody, while the empire continues killing throughout it all.

          The word Hamas is just the latest shibboleth, a password that lets people say at best disengaged and at worst genocidal things about Palestinians. So western media and politicians use the world ‘Hamas’ as a stand in for Palestinians, because you can’t say ‘we’re going to eliminate Palestinians,’ which is precisely what they’re doing.”

          https://indi.ca/why-should-i-hate-hamas/

          • Fast Eddy says:

            Just get Siemens to build some chambers and Bayer to provide the gas and get it over with …

  33. Student says:

    US actor and singer making some mistakes about Israel and Palestine…

    Justin Bieber posted an image where he calls to pray for Israel with a picture of Gaza destroyed.
    https://t.me/giorgiobianchiphotojournalist/27028

    Jamie Lee Curtis had posted a photo in support of Israel with Palestinian children while being bombed by Israel. She deleted the post when it was pointed out to her the mistake.
    https://t.me/giorgiobianchiphotojournalist/27034

  34. ivanislav says:

    https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1712126156567105842

    >> A girl from the music festival called her dad to ask for help when the Hamas terrorists attacked. He told her to hide under a pile of bodies. She stayed there for 7 hours. She survived

    Is it really common or something to install software to record your phone calls? This guy had the phone audio from when his daughter called him in a panic. I guess I’m just behind the times …

    In another video, I saw a man running holding a child to load the child into an ambulance. What I found weird about it was that there’s press on site and running with him, filming him trying to save his kid. Like … how insensitive … what’s going on?

    • lurker says:

      remember the call made from – allegedly – one of the planes on 911 when the caller introduced himself, with his full name, to his mother? never mind that you couldn’t actually make a phone call from a plane in those days.

      • chngtg says:

        Hi mom, this is XXX (substitute XXX with your real name)

        Isn’t this the same as the lady to hold the Styrofoam “rocks”

  35. Fast Eddy says:

    Hilarious these A Vaxxers on SS… they want to save the world (apparently) but they want $$$$… they always want… $$$$

    George Carlin would surely have something to say about this

    https://maryannedemasi.substack.com/p/researchers-alarmed-to-find-dna-contamination

    • ivanislav says:

      Eddy, this is six posts in a row about this Demasi guy … take your meds!

      AND FOR ALL YOU DOOMERS – Art Berman thinks a plausible scenario is that oil production is only 25% lower in 20 years … DID YOU HEAR THAT? !! 20 YEARS OF BAU PARTY TIME, AT LEAST !! What do you know about oil geology compared to him? About the oil business? Nothing! Eat my shorts!

      • Clickkid says:

        That’not 20 years of BAU. That’s 20 years of the screws tightening.

        • ivanislav says:

          if the lights stay on and the grocery trucks keep arriving, it’s basically BAU as far as I’m concerned

          • Deimetri says:

            We have a debt based financial system that requires perpetual growth. If it doesn’t grow it will collapse..-25% over 20 years sounds like the opposite of growth…I am not sure if we have 20 years, even in the core..

            • Tim Groves says:

              Obviously, we must do more with less.

              The shortages will continue until productivity increases!

            • I agree with you.

              Besides the financial issues, there is the issue that we don’t necessarily get the benefit of the oil that is available. The energy gets shared differently. Oil supply from Asia doesn’t get over to the Americas, after some point. It takes oil to transport oil. The most efficient economies likely do best.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              EX-actly.

              But in DelusiSTAN anything is possible … including India landing a trash heap on the moon!!!

        • Fast Eddy says:

          It ain’t that either … depleting affordable energy kills growth — think recession but now way to stimulate out of it without triggering hyperinflation… at some point something will snap… and BAU collapses

          We’ve been into deep depletion on affordable energy for many years now — shale has filled some of the depletion but that poisons the well – BAU needs the cheap stuff…and the ration of expensive to cheap … is widening…

          • ivanislav says:

            >> shale has filled some of the depletion but that poisons the well – BAU needs the cheap stuff

            Shale is cheap. The technology improved, so most new wells are breakeven at 40 or 50. Shale was only expensive early in the technology evolution and yes banks and investors got hosed in the early days, but that’s not true today. Keep up!

            BAU BABY!

            • ivanislav says:

              Like I said, first-round investors got hosed! Today they print money!

            • Fast Eddy says:

              You cannot just make stuff up and expect to be taken seriously on OFW… at some point you get lumped in with norm keith dennis etc…

              You may click on the image above to read the article. Its pretty much the same ‘ol bullshit as to why its everybody else’s fault the tight oil sector is slowing down, even with much higher oil prices. The first part pats the sector on the back for capital discipline and putting investors and profit first, for the first time in 14 years…at the “insistence of Wall Street.” The second half of the article blames Biden, again, for higher oil prices and the slow down in rig counts.

              Part 1 is dung heap, I believe; drilling and completion costs are thru the roof in 2023 and going higher in 2024. Fifty percent of the revenue stream of a typical Permian Basin HZ well is now a function of natural gas and NGL prices, both in the toilet at the moment. I don’t think there is all that much free cash flow, or net revenue from operations, particularly when you are having to pay dividends, drill $12MM wells for 7% IRR’s, service debt, deleverage debt, and when OPEX is going to the moon because of produced water costs. Wells are NOT producing the same level of C+C liquids they use to and that is hurting well economics. When people won’t loan you money any more you have to actually live within your means. There is little money to keep drilling wells on after the other like the good ‘ol days. Blaming it on investors actually wanting their money back, the bastards, is a lie.

              There is a blimp in this article about the sector running out of primo drilling locations and that is the only piece of truth in the entire thing. I think it might be the biggest story of the entire shale phenomena, actually.

              https://www.oilystuff.com/forumstuff/forum-stuff/now-what

            • ivanislav says:

              Eddy, now let me explain something to YOU … ever heard of forest and the trees? Learn:

              IDGAF if they lost money or made money. It doesn’t matter one bit. If the US government needs to print the money for them to make a profit, so be it! What matters is if it is positive or negative EROI. Our machines run on physics, not accounting.

              So, with that in mind:
              GDP equals energy consumption roughly equals fossil fuel consumption. Shale is roughly 1/2 of US C+C production. Ergo, the VALUE of shale is 1/2 of GDP or in other words, 12 trillion EVERY YEAR!

              Oh boo hoo, they lost a few hundred billion magic pieces of paper in a decade (worst case) and all it did was save the US empire! Poor us!

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Ask yourself this … if all oil was from shale (say 95M barrels per day) .. and the ratio was one barrel in for 5 out.. do you think BAU could survive?

              The only reason we are still here is because there are substantial reserves of high return oil that offset the terrible return from shale and other non conventional

              And the moment of truth is fast approaching because depletion of the reserves is severe + shale has peaked

        • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

          “That’s not 20 years of BAU. That’s 20 years of the screws tightening.”

          it’s 20 years of BAU in The Core, and 20 years of screws tightening in The Periphery.

          The Core is a good club to be in, but it will continue to be a shrinking club.

        • I AM THE MOB says:

          Many NEED their screws tightened. They’ve been consuming more than their fair share of resources.

      • they are called gatling comments

        eddy fires off so many he thinks he’s bound to hit something.

        reminds of when i used to shoot, 6ft above the targets, we could see rabbits munching happily, no one got hit, so they ignored the noise of it all.

        (the above is quite true btw)

      • Fred says:

        Hey, did somebody mention 20 more years of BAU PARTY TIME?

        You beauty! Dance baby dance. Let’s do the clean, green, energy boogie. Lasers, smoke machines, disco balls, 2 dozen subwoofers at the ready – LET’S GO!

      • ivani, there’s kind of a Jenga situation going on: in many instances, you can’t remove 25% of the infrastructure and still end up with something that works. Most industrial processes are not infinitely scalable in either direction.

        • ivanislav says:

          Industrial processes can’t be scaled down necessarily on a per plant basis, but you can still shut down 25% of the plants.

          I am not as worried about the availability of raw materials in the near-term as of economic dislocations due to social/political/financial events. Our governance structures have decayed and are now failing. Increased product complexity (the number of parts and their production and assembly being spread geographically and ever-greater incorporation of electronics) makes production more fragile.

          In short, instability + production fragility is a recipe for disruption of any sort of complex manufacturing (cars, machinery, appliances, electronics, airplanes).

          I suppose if enough of this stuff breaks down before simpler designs and supply chains are created, you don’t get enough raw materials fast enough to maintain the system and you have chaos. But the developing world has simpler processes and machines, so I don’t think any breakdown will be global.

          • hkeithhenson says:

            ” recipe for disruption”

            While that’s the case, don’t forget that there is an army of purchasing agents and expediters trying to adjust to disruptions. The system is dynamic.

          • raviuppal4 says:

            Ivan , ” but you can still shut down 25% of the plants. ”
            You do not understand the following terms ” System ” , ” critical ” and ” tipping point ” . Example ; The human body is a “system ” , blood is ” critical ” . 20% is ” tipping point ” . Loose 20% of the blood ( critical) the ” system ” ( human body ) will die (collapse) . It is also called ” the Leibig’s law of the minimum ” .

        • Tsubion says:

          Yes, I see the whole structure as being propped up on the foundational columns of industrial civilisation. The weight is not evenly distributed and lack of one function can bring down the entire edifice. It’s a miracle any of it stays standing with everything that goes on. These are not neatly placed Jenga bricks being removed in an organized fashion so that the rest of the bricks remain in place. Removing parts of the foundational columns would result in subsidence with cracks appearing here and there that no amount of patching will ever be able to repair. Eventually, the order will come to leave the building or be crushed under the rubble.

          • ivanislav says:

            Not true – it really depends on where you’re talking about. Russia is independent enough to continue more or less as is if the rest of the world disappears. Ditto China, so long as they can get raw materials.

            • nope

              all nations have edges

              if the ”rest of the world” goes into decay and collapse, then Russia, say, cannot maintain its autonomy, because it will exhaust itself be trying to sustain itself against ”outside forces”.

              The ‘outside’ regions will gradual impose on the more seemingly prosperous inner regions.

              it might not do this by conventional arms. (there will be no need to)

              a decaying ”outside world” will become rife with disease. No nation can defend itself against that, and so will succumb to one plague or another, probably several.

              we only have healthcare thanks to modern medicine and hygiene.

              Disease prevention/cure sucks in energy.

              it wont be available.

      • nope

        it’s 20 years of increasing denial of reality

        each year worse than the last, whille unthinkers blame ”the elders” for our misfortune

        and remain certain that things can be restored by voting for someone else.

        but dont let me get in the way of your delusion

  36. Fast Eddy says:

    Earlier this year, genomics expert Kevin McKernan first discovered DNA contamination in vials of Pfizer and Moderna’s bivalent booster shots. He published his findings in a pre-print, but the research received little attention from the mainstream media.

    Observing from afar was Phillip Buckhaults, a cancer genomics expert, and professor at the University of South Carolina. Initially, he dismissed McKernan’s findings as “conspiracy” and decided to debunk the work by carrying out his own testing on the mRNA vials.

    But what Buckhaults discovered shocked him –> McKernan was right! Buckhaults found billions of tiny DNA fragments in Pfizer’s mRNA vaccine, and recently testified about it before a South Carolina Senate hearing – I covered in a previous article.

    https://maryannedemasi.substack.com/p/exclusive-an-interview-with-buckhaults

    https://maryannedemasi.substack.com/p/researchers-alarmed-to-find-dna-contamination

  37. Fast Eddy says:

    Gareth Thomas
    19 hrs ago
    Liked by Maryanne Demasi, PhD
    Anecdotally I have seen more patients with cancer over the last year and I do not have a cancer practice. ABS quotes “The number of deaths due to cancer was 8.1% above the baseline average in May 2023 and 1.7% above May 2022. Cancer deaths in January to May 2023 were 7.4% above baseline average and 0.9% above the same period in 2022.” On so many levels the risk of future cancer is consistent with what we know about the Covid so-called vaccines. Inflammation, DNA fragment contamination, spike protein production without an “off switch”, effects on IgG4.

    At least we should be completely open to the possibility that this may be a long term problem.

    Vivien C Buckley
    7 hrs ago
    It seems all we have at the moment is anecdotal evidence. With no diagnostics invented what else is there? Never in my life in a 20 month span have I known 7 people with a cancer diagnosis. 2 are dead, 2 in hospice, 3 treated and seem to be doing ok. For the vaccine injured a diagnos

  38. Fast Eddy says:

    Our cells are constantly repairing DNA damage but what happens if some of these DNA fragments in lipid nanoparticles enter the nucleus of a dividing cells? What happens if they get into stem cells? Regarding cancer, one of the biggies is to figure out how rare is it that something like this happens, and whether it can disrupt a gene? What is the remote chance this can happen in the germline? What is the chance genomic integration can happen in some pre-neoplastic cells in the body? How will we know if we don’t look for rare events? Could some of the answers be found in the blood or in autopsies on individuals who died? The very rare very sick people who die hold molecular secrets in their tissues that could be uncovered.

    The Nobel Prize was just won recently for the discovery that pseudouridine stabilises the mRNA from immune attack. How long does it last in the body and how much variation is there in the population? Different people may have different abilities to metabolise and get rid of it.

    DEMASI: What

    • nikoB says:

      Going by the best research in cancer by Seyfried, messing with the nucleus doesn’t cause cancer. It is messing with the mitochondria in the cell that causes cancer and the genetic mutations are a secondary phenomenon. That said research shows that spike protein has very bad effects on mitochondria.

      One can then move on to immune system issues and the recognition and fighting of cancer by the immune system. Get it all out of wack and cancer can proliferate.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        YES! The goal is not to cause cancer… that’s just an unfortunate side effect in some MOREONS.

        The goal is to destroy the immune system — and prepare the 6B MOREON Vaxxers …

        For the lab-made pathogen designed to exploit the damaged immune systems of the MOREONS –and KILL them.. all of them

        Then we non-MOREONS starve… hey maybe it’s better to be a MOREON?

  39. Fast Eddy says:

    DEMASI: Right, so nothing unusual that alarms you?

    EL-DEIRY: No, I have not for something so rare. I’ve read about these things and some of the mechanisms certainly seem plausible. But the answer to whether the vaccines are causing more cancers in the vaccinated versus the unvaccinated, is that we are just not seeing it yet….at the moment, they’re just anecdotes of aggressive cancers in people, but there’s no smoking gun that would point to the cause.

    DEMASI: Recently, you spoke up about Phillip Buckhaults and his findings of DNA contamination in Pfizer’s vaccine….why?

    EL-DEIRY: I have been involved in the world of cancer research now for over 30 years and Philip Buckhaults came out of the same training environment at Johns Hopkins. I know his background well, and not only can I speak for his competence, but also his integrity. I thought his communication with the Senate in South Carolina was very clear and he stayed in his lane.

    EL-DEIRY: Phillip has shown there are billions of DNA fragments contaminatin

  40. Fast Eddy says:

    DEMASI: Because anecdotes are often dismissed…

    EL-DEIRY: Well, anecdotes may not be your cup of tea as far as acceptable evidence goes but I think anecdotes matter. Case reports and case series are relevant and important. What’s more important is if there are anecdotes, that through the scientific process, people then dig in deeper and try to establish if there is a cause.

    I put it out there on social media and people were just dismissing it and they were assassinating the characters of individuals who were raising questions. Is this what we want in science?

    DEMASI: You were accused of being an anti-vaxxer?

    EL-DEIRY: I would not ever be referred to as somebody who is anti-vaccines. I was very eager to get a vaccine for COVID by December of 2020. I’m somebody who’s had four shots now, but after the last shot, I didn’t feel great. I wanted to see some evidence about risks and benefits for me personally.

    So, I’m not anti-vax. I’m also pro science and somebody who focuses on facts, and I feel strongly that the current climate is very polarised, people have strong emotions. Let’s be clear about something. As a physician, I would never discourage somebody at risk, e.g. the elderly, or somebody with comorbidities, we definitely want to protect those people.

    DEMASI: I did see you caused a stir on social media….

    EL-DEIRY: Frankly, based on the backlash over the 10 days, I really have no interest in… I mean, I hesitated even about doing this interview, which is one of the reasons I wanted to explain where I’m coming from… if you shut down discourse, if you shut down conversation, that’s a detriment to science and medicine.

    Someone actually tagged my university and my medical school on X (formerly twitter) because he’s a Brown University alum and he basically was writing publicly that the things I’m saying are ruining Brown’s reputation. I’m only asking questions, I shouldn’t have to be worried about my reputation, or what’s going to happen to me at the university.

    https://maryannedemasi.substack.com/p/can-covid-19-vaccines-cause-turbo

    • Fred says:

      “I’m somebody who’s had four shots now”.

      What a pussy, what’s wrong with you? Hardcore vaxxers are up to 7 by now. May they live long and prosper.

      “but after the last shot, I didn’t feel great”

      What, how can you say that? Get ’em into you and stop quibbling. They’re like an energy drink – skull more, lift more, run more . . . die suddenly.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        That adds to his credibility – a Mega Vaxxer questioning the Vax… he’s like Mike

        Unlike norm keith … they could each get turbo cancer a stroke and a heart attack the day of the next booster… and blame it on old age + Long covid.

        Duh

  41. Fast Eddy says:

    Can covid-19 vaccines cause ‘turbo cancers’?

    Brown University professor weighs in on mRNA vaccine safety and concerns about ‘turbo cancers.’

    “Where is the evidence that mRNA vaccines fuel cancer growth even in a subset of people? Case-reports don’t count, obviously. You need careful epidemiological evidence to make such a claim. Where is that? Do that before you cover it in the news. Duh,” tweeted Prasad at the time.

    Now that DNA contamination has been detected in Pfizer and Moderna covid vaccines, it has fuelled speculation about cancer risks and has been the target of many “fact-checkers.”

    So, I decided to speak with physician-scientist and medical oncologist Professor Wafik El-Deiry, about his thoughts on covid vaccines and “turbo cancers.”

    El-Deiry is Director of the Cancer Center at Brown University and has a 30-year career in cancer research. Recently, he received the 2023 Inventor Of The Year award for his work related to novel cancer therapeutics.

    https://maryannedemasi.substack.com/p/can-covid-19-vaccines-cause-turbo

  42. Foolish Fitz says:

    This is amusing. You want your existing customers to pay more, whilst reducing the amount they get, but don’t want to break long term agreements, as your moving into new markets and that would be a bad look. At the same time you have the biggest LNG fleet and want to boost their profits.

    “Spain has increased its dependence on Russian gas by 65%”. “In February 2022, the share of Russian LNG in the total volume of this type of fuel purchased by Spain was only 5.7%. In August 2023, it reached 19.7%. Only the United States (20.8%) and Algeria (24.5%) achieved higher rates. 53,231 gigawatt-hours (GWh) of Russian gas purchased between January and August 2023 is 65% higher than the volume of imports from Russia in the same period last year, ”

    https://m.vz.ru/world/2023/10/11/1234032.html

  43. Ed says:

    We should move the two million in Gaza to NYC. For their own safety.

    • raviuppal4 says:

      Agree Ed , Sancutary cities that is what they are for . 🙂

    • Foolish Fitz says:

      How about moving all those people originally from NYC, back to NYC?

      A true homecoming.

      They could even use the original sales pitch “a land without a people, for a people without a land”.
      You’d be amazed how many would believe it 😉

      They’ve already got the passport, although I hear there aren’t so many commercial airplanes willing to fly that route at the moment

  44. MikeJones says:

    Exxon Mobil Strikes $60 Billion Deal for Shale Giant
    The acquisition of Pioneer Natural Resources, Exxon’s largest since its merger with Mobil in 1999, is a bet that U.S. energy policy will not move against fossil fuels in a major way.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/11/business/economy/exxon-mobil-pioneer-natural-resources.html

    Not too hard to figure that one out…

    • I am sure that Exxon Mobil is hoping energy prices will rise.

      • MikeJones says:

        Exxon Mobile have some of the best modeling experts in the business…they have an excellent track record

        • raviuppal4 says:

          Mike Jones , please meet MIke Shellman . The real oil man with an ear to the ground . His comment .

          “Its very hard to get to the truth in the world we live in today; part of it is that people analyzing tight oil really don’t know what they are analyzing and the other part of it is they must advance the rhetoric to stay employed. I wish I had more credibility, a bigger audience, as it is when I offer alternatives to the dog dookey, it upsets people and they get mad. I think, for instance, if XOM is to grow its production by 2 MM BOPD over the next 5 years it will take a minimum of 15,000 HZ wells, in the block that Pioneer already has 3,850 wells in, and that will cost about $150B to drill those wells, on top of the $60B it just paid for the acreage. If you look at my chart, above, about PXD’s wells, I just don’t see it occuring.
          But people of influence have the American public, and much of the world, in hand with regards to abundance. If its on the internet, it has to be true. “

          • Fast Eddy says:

            It’s like trying to explain to a MOREON that the Rat Juice ain’t Safe nor Effective…

            This is why I enjoy the Tesla owners getting smashed with massive insurance premiums… they cannot deny the consequences of believing in delusions… the bills are real… they are taking out loans at high interest haha … to pay to ‘save the world’

            An with Vaxxers… they get maimed or die… can’t pretend that didn’t happen when it happens to one of them

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Didn’t Exxon exit it’s foray into shale years ago … cuz the losses were dragging the entire company’s profitability into the gutter?

        I seem to recall this https://www.spglobal.com/marketintelligence/en/news-insights/latest-news-headlines/how-not-to-do-m-a-a-look-back-at-exxon-s-deal-for-xto-10-years-later-55076990

        What changed?

      • Jan says:

        The US will be in need of a reliable energy source in WW3. Whatever the costs!

        When the Middle East burst into flames, delivery from Saudi-Arabia must be compensated. The head of Hamas owns a villa in Katar. Europe, the only friend of the US, cannot obtain energy from Russia. Fracking is the only solution. Perhaps the technology can expand to Germany, if the collaterals become less important?

    • moss says:

      Oh look. There goes up another one
      Up to 40,000 passengers have been affected by flight cancellations after a large fire broke out at one of London’s Luton Airport’s car parks
      gulftoday.ae/news/2023/10/11/40000-passengers-affected-1200-cars-damaged-as-huge-blaze-breaks-out-at-luton-airport-in-london

      now what on earth could possibly have caused that?

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