Running Short of Tailwinds for the Economy

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Tailwinds often make jet planes fly faster than they would regularly fly. In this post, I talk about economic tailwinds that help the economy grow more quickly.

Strangely enough, the economy seems to move from tailwind to tailwind, as new resources are discovered, as population expands, and as central banks figure out new ways to fix the economy. In this post, I will describe some tailwinds affecting the economy. Many of these have recently lost their value or are likely to lose their value in the future. The long-term trend seems to be toward tailwinds becoming available to some parts of the world economy, but there may be major dips and shifts with respect to which segments of the world economy are favored.

[1] The tailwind of very low oil prices

Before 1972, the US economy had the tailwind of a good supply of oil available at very low prices. Goods could be made cheaply with oil products, and new devices, such as automobiles, could be operated very inexpensively. New technology could take hold quickly because resources, including energy resources, were easily available. For these reasons, the economy could grow very quickly, with little use of debt.

Figure 1. Average annual inflation-adjusted oil prices, based upon data of the 2023 Statistical Review of World Energy, published by the Energy Institute.

Data from the US Bureau of Economics shows that the US economy experienced an average annual growth rate of 4.8% between 1932 and 1972, which is very high by today’s standards. The same data shows that the US economy’s average annual growth rate was 2.7% for the period 1972 to 2022.

[2] The tailwind of falling interest rates and near zero interest rates

From 1981 to 2020, the world economy had a tailwind of generally falling interest rates.

Figure 2. Chart by the Federal Reserve of St. Louis, showing interest rates related to 3-month and 10-year US Treasuries, with US recessions noted in gray. Chart has been annotated by Gail Tverberg to point out time of generally falling long-term interest rates.

On Figure 2, the top line (in red) shows 10-year interest rates. The lower line (in blue) represents interest rates of 3-month Treasuries.

In the US, many mortgage rates have tended to follow 10-year interest rates. We all know that as mortgage rates fall, homes become more affordable to buyers. As more homes become affordable to buyers, the “demand” for homes goes up. More homes are built, stimulating the economy. Similarly, buying farmland becomes more affordable. Factories become more affordable. There are more people bidding for these goods, so the selling prices tend to rise.

Figure 2 shows that short term rates have also been falling, but in a more irregular way. The fact that these rates have generally been falling has also greatly aided economic growth, since many industrial and financial loans are very short term.

It appears to me that the temporary rise in short-term interest rates between 2004 and 2006 ultimately caused the Great Recession of 2007-2009. See my academic paper, Oil Supply Limits and the Continuing Financial Crisis. Note the delayed impact of the rate rise. It is far too early to assume that the recent rise in interest rates will have no serious detrimental effects on the economy.

To try to keep the economy operating after the Great Recession, short term interest rates were brought down to close to zero for most of the time between 2008 and early 2022. These low interest rates encouraged investors to pursue new ventures that were very “iffy”– they might produce a positive return, or they might lose money. In fact, government subsidies were added, inviting investors to pursue “opportunities” that were likely to be money losers.

With this long-term tailwind of falling interest rates, capital gains were very easy to obtain. Homes became worth increased amounts, as did farms, seemingly by magic. Shares of stock tended to rise. People began to believe that there was little risk in borrowing money for questionable ventures. New high technology businesses in Silicon Valley blossomed.

In some sense, interest rates that rose in the 1960 to 1981 period (to keep the economy from racing ahead too fast) had stored up momentum that could be used in the 1981 to 2020 period.

We are now past that period of falling interest rates. In fact, we are in a new period of rising interest rates because of depleting resources, and the upward pressure these depleting resources place on inflation rates. Furthermore, a 200-year history of US interest rates shows that the recent near-zero interest rates have been an anomaly. We cannot expect interest rates to go back to the recent low level for any extended period. An interest rate of 5% or more is normal. The economy has benefitted from the temporary gift of falling interest rates, and of near zero rates, but this period is likely past.

[3] The tailwind of rising debt, relative to GDP

The fact that debt is rising, relative to GDP, is closely related to Tailwind [1] and Tailwind [2].

Figure 3. Ratio of the increase in US debt to the increase in US GDP for 5-year periods, based on data of the US Bureau of Economic Analysis.

How much debt does it take to create one dollar of GDP? In theory, both the buyer of a product (such as a vehicle), and the various organizations involved with creating the product and shipping it to the end user, will need debt to move the process along. If the government is adding a subsidy to move the process along, this will add another layer of debt.

Figure 3 shows that prior to 1981, when oil prices were low (Figure 1), it took less than one dollar of debt to facilitate the process of creating one dollar of GDP. Oil companies were sufficiently profitable that they could use their profits to reinvest in new wells as old ones depleted. They did not need to add debt to make the process work. While products such as homes might need debt for the buyers to afford them, many other products did not. In this early period, government subsidies were much more limited than today.

After 1981, the ratio of debt to GDP steadily rose. The rise was particularly steep after 2001, when China was added to the World Trade Organization (Figure 1). As China ramped up its manufacturing, the price of oil tended to rise because more oil was needed for manufacturing and shipping the goods China made. More debt was required to import this higher-priced oil, causing at least part of the increase in the debt to GDP ratio. The dip in the debt to GDP ratio in the 2014-2019 period seems to correspond to the period of lower oil prices shown in Figure 1.

In some sense, it is strange that GDP does not consider the added debt that an economy requires in order to create the goods and services that it produces. Logically, it might make sense for GDP to measure the value of goods and services added, net of the additional debt required to make these goods and services. We can see from Figure 3 that this net approach would only work up until 1981. Since 1981, it has become necessary to add more debt than the amount of additional goods and services produced. If the interest rate is 0%, perhaps this is not a major issue, but if the interest rate rises to 5% or more, a huge amount of interest to be paid. Repaying debt with interest becomes a serious problem unless the borrower is able to find a truly profitable use for the funds.

[4] The tailwind of higher population

If population is growing, there is a need for many new things, including new schools, roads, stores, and homes. This puts pressure on GDP to grow. Figure 4 shows population growth, excluding the impact of migration.

Figure 4. Natural population increase (based on births minus deaths) as a percentage of population based on data from World Population Prospects 2022 published by the United Nations.

In the 1950s and 1960, part of the reason that GDP in the More Developed parts of the world was growing rapidly was because population was growing quickly (Figure 4). This tailwind had mostly disappeared by the mid-1990s. Now, if one of the More Developed parts of the world shows population growth, it tends to be the result of increasing immigrant population.

Figure 5. World population estimates as used in the 2023 Statistical Review of World Energy by the Energy Institute. OECD is a slightly different grouping of highly developed countries than UN’s grouping. Thus, non-OECD corresponds to the population of less developed countries.

Total world population (Figure 5) keeps rising, even though birth rates have been falling because people in less developed parts of the world have been living longer. This adds to migration pressure because there are not enough goods and services available for the increased population.

[5] The US tailwind from playing “King of the Mountain”

In March 2022, the US Federal Reserve started raising interest rates. These higher interest rates can be seen as a way to push the US$ higher relative to other currencies, especially relative to currencies of poorer countries, such as Argentina and Turkey. By pushing the dollar higher, oil and other commodities become relatively cheaper to the US, and relatively more expensive to those countries with currencies whose value is low relative to the US$. Also, the higher interest rates make the US a more attractive country for other countries to invest in.

The US move to raise interest rates higher can be viewed as a “King of the Mountain” move. High interest rates can perhaps be withstood by strong economies, but they cannot be withstood by weak economies. For example, many of the poorer countries of the world have loans from the International Monetary Fund. As the US dollar strengthens relative to local currencies, these loans become more difficult to be paid back. The fact that recent interest rates are higher also makes it harder for borrowers to repay debt with interest. Weak businesses and perhaps weak governments around the world will tend to be squeezed out.

One thing that may help the US in trying such a move is that fact that US debt has a kind of moneyness quality that the debt of other countries does not have. This occurs because the US$ is the reserve currency, which in turn is related to the US being the world’s hegemon. The question becomes: How long can the US maintain this lofty position? Other countries are likely to push back and find ways to work around the use of the US$, if it is to their disadvantage.

[6] The tailwind from the “Green Energy Will Save Us” narrative

Figure 6. Figure by Gail Tverberg illustrating an economy that is trying to turn to a different direction, while the standard narrative is that business as usual can continue forever, thanks to the miracles of Green Energy.

The standard narrative about green energy saving the world from its climate change gives great opportunities for governments to subsidize wind turbines and solar panels, battery manufacturing plants, and the building of electric vehicles. These subsidies create more debt, which helps push the economy along.

The educational system is also stimulated by the “Green Energy Will Save Us” story. Educators have new courses to teach and new subjects to write academic papers about. If students are interested in studying these subjects, the US government is willing to provide debt-based funding to the prospective students. This adds another source of debt to stimulate the economy.

Of course, there is the hurdle of paying this debt back, especially if interest rates are at a new higher level. This game would not seem to be able to go on very long unless some green approach actually works. Such an approach needs to work in current devices, be low-cost to manufacture, and be affordable to customers at a price that generates taxable revenue.

[7] Over the very long run, tailwinds do seem to help the Universe grow and become more complex and more energy intense.

Eric Chaisson, in the book Cosmic Evolution: The Rise of Complexity in Nature, writes about the Universe gradually becoming more complex and having greater energy intensity. He shows images such as this one.

Figure 7. Image similar to ones shown in Eric Chaisson’s 2001 book, Cosmic Evolution: The Rise of Complexity in Nature.

We don’t understand why this happens. Evolution seems to happen in every part of the Universe. Many parts of the Universe are short-lived. Each new part of the Universe varies in random ways from its predecessors. Evolution happens through the survival those that are the best adapted to their surroundings. This happens at least partly through the laws of physics. There may be some other force involved as well. Economists talk about the Invisible Hand being helpful. Those who are religious may think of the Hand of God being involved.

We know that the Earth has survived for a very long time, despite being hit by large meteors and despite major changes in climate. In fact, early humans lived through glacial periods. There are times when economies and populations fall back considerably, but somehow the world ecosystem recovers. It may even adapt in a way that allows more opportunity for growth.

Thus, even as the economy seems to be running out of today’s tailwinds, somehow there may be future tailwinds that will push the at least segments of the world economy along in a somewhat different direction. We simply don’t know for certain how things will turn out.

About Gail Tverberg

My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
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3,079 Responses to Running Short of Tailwinds for the Economy

  1. davecoop says:

    https://davecoop.net/seneca
    (This is a test, because posting the URL above was rejected with the message “invalid security certificate”, & I then arranged for such a certificate.)

  2. moss says:

    Interesting article on latest China nuclear power project in their own voice – not western reinterpretation:

    The Shidaowan Nuclear Power Plant in Rongcheng, East China’s Shandong Province, which uses a high-temperature gas-cooled nuclear reactor (HTGR), entered commercial service on Wednesday following a 168-hour trial, according to the National Energy Administration (NEA).

    It is the world’s first fourth-generation (4G) nuclear power plant and uses China’s fully independent intellectual property rights, reflecting the nation’s global leading position in 4G nuclear power technology, said the NEA.
    ….
    Construction of the plant, with a capacity of 200,000 kilowatts, started in December 2012 by China Huaneng Group Co, Tsinghua University and China National Nuclear Corp. It was first linked to the power grid in December 2021.

    From January to October 2023, China’s installed power generation capacity hit 2.81 billion kilowatts, up 12.6 percent year-on-year. The capacity of nuclear power stood at 56.76 million kilowatts, up 2.2 percent year-on-year, accounting for about 2 percent of all power generation capacity, NEA data showed.

    globaltimes.cn/page/202312/1303124.shtml

    the story stresses the safety in the event of power loss – it’s supposed to all just cool down gently. Ten years, though, from first spade. Hardly going to slow coal power generation there

    • Ed says:

      High temperature gas means it can be air cooled in the Gobi desert.

      • moss says:

        The Gobi desert has an enormous range of temperatures from freezing, freezing winters to burning dry summers.
        So your comment means???
        All weather?? Melt icebergs for fresh water?

        do you think it would be related to these?
        Burevestnik could as well be named ‘a flying Chernobyl’ as the missile is powered by a small nuclear reactor which is cooled by the outside air running through the uranium core, leaving behind radioactive isotopes as it is flying.
        That is the reason tests of the weapon now take place at one of the world’s most remote locations, hundreds of kilometers from the nearest civilian populations.
        Burevestnik, nick-named Skyfall by NATO, “is still at the test stage,” Nils Andreas Stensønes underlines.

        thebarentsobserver.com/en/nuclear-safety/2023/09/norwegians-fear-radiation-russia-prolongs-test-window-burevestnik-missile
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9M730_Burevestnik

        • Ed says:

          Even in a burning hot dry summer the air can cool the reactor.

          • Tim Groves says:

            Correct, Ed! Burning hot dry summer temperatures are a lot colder than burning hot nuclear reactor temperatures.

            Hot dry summer air can cool a nuclear reactor, depending on the design.

            And if all else fails,1.4 billion Chinese can all blow on it. That’s a lot of puff!

        • hkeithhenson says:

          “The Gobi desert has an enormous range of temperatures from freezing, freezing winters to burning dry summers.
          So your comment means???”

          It has to do with Carnot cycle efficiency.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnot_cycle

          If you have a higher hot end temperature the efficiency is less affected by a higher cold end temperature. Most reactors are cooled by evaporating water or some body of water to get a low end temperature to condense the steam.

        • Interesting. The US hasn’t been doing anything at all equivalent, I’ll bet.

          • moss says:

            could be fear porn, too
            both those news sources I regard rather as highly dubious and frequent purveyors of fake dog waste in bonbon wrappers
            barents used once to be a gem of arctic gos – resources, transport, challenges of life, lappies and reindeer
            went woke+

            Disclosure: no engineer
            that Chinese power reactor is really quite small 0.2GW, and if it’s gonna take ten years to build the next size up …
            The GW power generation statistics in Global Times, if true, are to me quite eyepopping

          • Dennis L. says:

            Smiling quietly. The US has Starship, fusion is a few hundred miles away, well, straight up that is.

            Nuclear energy probably only works in the core of the earth, miles and miles of rock to shield us.

            Fusion, well, it is only ten years away so they say. A working fusion reactor is only8 minutes away as the photon flies.

            Dennis L.

        • drb753 says:

          Since the new reactors would like to work at 500C (770K) for improved thermodynamic efficiency, the range of Gobi temperatures (-40+40C, or 233-313K) is in fact fairly small, resulting in efficiency changes of ordrr 10%. In point of fact, this does not even apply, the primary is gas, but surely the seconday cooling system is water. It is possible to air cool the reactor when it is not in operation (for this one, 32MW thermal or less when not operating).

      • The catch is getting enough uranium for the reactors may be interesting. Price of uranium hasn’t stayed very high for very long in the past. If prices can rise much higher, and stay there, perhaps more can be produced.

      • Dennis L. says:

        And the environmentalists worry about some CO2.

        Not good, not in my back yard, thank you.

        Dennis L.

    • hkeithhenson says:

      “with a capacity of 200,000 kilowatts, ”

      Hmm. 200 MW, .2 GW. Not very big.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Gas-cooled_Reactor

      The UK had high temperature gas cooled reactors for a long time.

      • moss says:

        and the UK’s now building hundreds?

        • hkeithhenson says:

          “and the UK’s now building hundreds?”

          They built 14 of them, of which 8 seem to be still operating.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_commercial_nuclear_reactors#United_Kingdom

        • moss says:

          wouldn’t they still be building lots if they were such a wonderful success?

          • hkeithhenson says:

            They were what I would consider a moderate success. But read the article here:

            “https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Gas-cooled_Reactor”

            for more detail.

          • Tim Groves says:

            Moss, you haven’t factored in that, institutionally speaking, the UK has been aiming for failure rather than success for over half a century now. Margaret Thatcher was the only PM to try to go against that tide, and all it got her was vilification.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              The UK was a version of Atlas Shrugged… and Thatcher + the North Sea Oil salvaged the situation

            • Withnail says:

              Moss, you haven’t factored in that, institutionally speaking, the UK has been aiming for failure rather than success for over half a century now.

              Failure is what happens when you run out of cheap coal. Politicians and politics are irrelevant.

            • tim

              when the coal and then the oil ran out

              the uk didnt need to aim for failure

            • Tim Groves says:

              Norman, Japan is like the UK without significant coal or oil in the first place.

              It still has a thriving car industry, diesel engine industry, electronics and microprocessor industry, and general manufacturing industry (mostly tied-up with the rest of East Asia), and makes excellent sushi.

              And Margaret Thatcher is worshipped as a secular saint in Tokyo! No, I never understood why either.

            • Withnail says:

              Norman, Japan is like the UK without significant coal or oil in the first place.

              Japan built its steel plants on the coast geared up to import everything they needed directly from ships and export the product directly by ship.

              Obviously the UK’s industrial system was not built that way because it was built where the coal was.

        • Withnail says:

          and the UK’s now building hundreds?

          Build hundreds of reactors? With what? The country is essentially bankrupt.

          • David says:

            The UK’s Advanced Gas-Cooled Reactors were described by the industrialist Sir Arnold Weinstock as ‘watchmaking by the tonne’. No, they weren’t very successful. Look up Dungeness B if you enjoy reading about spectacular failures.

            The previous fission reactors, known as Magnox, were on the whole moderately successful. However, they were basically plutonium factories that produced electricity as a byproduct. So it was hard to work out the true cost of the electricity.

            Anyway, the UK abandoned all these technologies when it went for Sizewell B, a PWR. That was decades ago. Nothing nuclear has been built since although Hinkley, a larger PWR, is now under construction.

      • I would guess that China is working on scaling up from a very small model. Since this approach is new, it doesn’t build a full scale reactor yet. It tests out the 200MW reactor, and sees what fine tuning it needs. If it still looks like it can be scaled up, it builds a bigger reactor.

        • hkeithhenson says:

          “If it still looks like it can be scaled up, it builds a bigger reactor.”

          That’s the case. Reactors of any kind are hard design problems, and high temperature gas reactors are tricky. One difficulty is neutron economy which is also a problem with molten salt reactors.

          A lot of places this would not be possible at all. China though has a lot of really sharp engineers.

  3. Fast Eddy says:

    hahahaha SCHAD

    NEW: Prince Constantin, 51, the youngest son of the reigning Prince of Liechtenstein Hans-Adam II, died suddenly this week, the Princely House said

    READ: https://insiderpaper.com/liechtensteins-prince-constantin-dies-unexpectedly-at-51/

    • Rodster says:

      He probably missed his CV19 booster shot, that’s why he died suddenly. You just can’t go cold turkey with those CV19 injections. You have to wean yourself off of it or else, suffer the consequences.

  4. Fast Eddy says:

    The Money Supply Continues its Biggest Collapse Since the Great Depression

    Money supply growth fell again in October, remaining deep in negative territory after turning negative in November 2022 for the first time in twenty-eight years. October’s drop continues a steep downward trend from the unprecedented highs experienced during much of the past two years.

    Since April 2021, money supply growth has slowed quickly, and since November, we’ve been seeing the money supply repeatedly contract year over year. The last time the year-over-year (YOY) change in the money supply slipped into negative territory was in November 1994. At that time, negative growth continued for fifteen months, finally turning positive again in January 1996.

    Money-supply growth has now been negative for twelve months in a row. During October 2023, the downturn continued as YOY growth in the money supply was at –9.33 percent. That’s up slightly from September’s rate decline which was of –10.49 percent, and was far below October 2022’s rate of 2.14 percent. With negative growth now falling near or below –10 percent for the eighth month in a row, money-supply contraction is the largest we’ve seen since the Great Depression. Prior to this year, at no other point for at least sixty years has the money supply fallen by more than 6 percent (YoY) in any month.

    https://www.activistpost.com/2023/12/the-money-supply-continues-its-biggest-collapse-since-the-great-depression.html?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

    • According to this author:

      An inflationary boom begins to turn to bust once new injections of money subside, and we are seeing this now. Not surprisingly, the current signs of malaise come after the Federal Reserve finally pulled its foot slightly off the money-creation accelerator after more than a decade of quantitative easing, financial repression, and a general devotion to easy money.

      The article also shows this image showing M2 money supply and a somewhat preferred measure of something similar.

      https://cdn.mises.org/styles/max_1160/s3/tmsoct2.jpg

      So he seems to see the injections of new money already subsiding.

    • Bam_Man says:

      When they are referring to the “Money Supply” it is actually M2 (Checking, Savings, CD’s in BANK accounts).

      It is no wonder that M2 is shrinking consistently because most big banks are still paying their customers ridiculously minuscule rates of interest (some still as low was 0.10%) on their so-called “High-Yield” savings or “Money Market” accounts.

      It is not surprising that many customers are moving funds out of these accounts (and out of the banks) and into Money Market Mutual Funds that typically pay around 5.25% today and have a stable Net Asset Value of $1.00 per share. These Mutual Funds are not counted as part of M2.

      So this phenomenon of M2 declining is quite different from what occurred during the “Great Depression”. In that case the Money Supply was declining because of bank failures. This was before the advent of deposit insurance, so that when your bank failed, your money literally “went to money heaven”.

      • You make a good point.

        When bank interest rates were very low, and Money Market funds weren’t paying much either, there was no reason to move money to Money Market funds. But once the rates Money Market funds increased, these funds were again an attractive option.

        • Bam_Man says:

          And it is primarily the big “Money Center” banks that are experiencing this depositor flight. They actually do not need the deposits anyway, so they will not pay anything more than a token rate of interest for them. They still have $TRILLIONS in Excess Reserves sitting on deposit at the Fed that they draw upon in a liquidity crunch. These Excess Reserves are what they received from the Fed in exchange for the garbage assets they sold to the Fed for 100 cents on the dollar back in the QE period.

    • Hubbs says:

      The money still parked at the reverse repo facility, around one trillion, will be gone by May 2024. This may also complicate things for the FED and the US Treasury in the next 6 months. But things really get sticky in two years when the US Treasury has to refinance all that cheap interest short term debt at higher rates.
      Preserve the economy by more money printing via stealth QE with off balance sheet gimmicks, or preserve the dollar and let stocks and banks tank, and hope that the rest of the world will look only at the higher interest rates and get suckered into buying it? Brent Johnson’s “milkshake” theory. Also, if stocks tanks, investors may pour back in if they perceive they are loading up at the bottom. “Do you feel lucky, punk?”

  5. Fast Eddy says:

    woop woop …

    DEATH SENTENCE: 1 Million COVID Vaccinated have died in England compared to just 61k Unvaccinated in 2 years; despite 30% of the Population refusing a single dose of the COVID Injection

    https://expose-news.com/2023/12/05/death-sentence-covid-vaccine-1-million-deaths/

    https://i0.wp.com/expose-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/image-50.png

    hahahahahahaahahahahahahaahhahhaha

    • ivanislav says:

      Those charts are unbelievable. If true, cause for killing everyone involved, but most likely false, based on the terrible number-crunching I’ve seen from that crowd.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Note that the source is the UK govt … they could be pulling an India moon landing and faking it….

        Or maybe they are doing the opposite of what the DOD did when Theresa Long leaked the huge vax injury data… (recall they simply changed the data…)

        But I am thinking based on what I am seeing anecdotally — I know 20+ people with serious vax injuries… and I know of many many more (friends of friends…colleagues of M Fast etc) with injuries…

        In fact M Fast’s former colleague just returned from Europe – she went back to see her 20+ yr old brother … who has terminal brain cancer… fully boosted of course.

        Oh and I remember being in on a call when I brought my mate to the emergency with his jab heart… the cardiologist in Dunedin said and I quote:

        ‘my phone has not stopped ringing with doctors asking how to treat young healthy men with these same symptoms’

        I suppose he might have been making that up … but I don’t think so

      • David says:

        Misleading or very misleading. That’s the track record of the Expose. Sometimes accurate, often not.

        Oldies are more likely to die. Oldies are considserably more likely to have been jabbed than youngsters.

        I’d suggest that Norman Fenton (and colleagues), Joel Smalley or possibly Ed Dowd are more reliable people than the authors of the Expose, if you need your data to be carefully analysed.

    • ivanislav says:

      davelysak. I guess?

  6. Mirror on the wall says:

    NATO seems to be set on a war with Russia in eastern Europe and the Baltics and both sides are majorly preparing.

    NATO obviously frames it as ‘Russia is going to attack and we need to build up our capacity in the region to protect ourselves’ but would Russia build up its forces for attack/ defence if NATO had/ did not build its capacities on Russia’s borders? Would NATO have done that if Russia did not have the capacity to expand again into eastern Europe? Would Russia have that capacity were it not threatened by the strength of NATO?

    It reminds one of Thucydides’ account of the dynamics of the Peloponnesian War that both sides, Athens and Sparta with their shifting allies, had no real choice but to make the moves that they did such that both sides thus provoked and continuously reignited the war.

    So here either side, NATO and Russia, are concerned with their security, they cannot allow the other to infringe upon it by its build up and they are compelled to eliminate the potential advantage of the other.

    Those geopolitical security dynamics set them up for a massive conflict over the start of which they may have no real control.

    The result in the Peloponnesian War was that Athens and Sparta exhausted themselves over decades and the Macedonian Empire took over and brought Greek civilisation to its end. Similarly Britain and Germany (and all of Europe) exhausted themselves in WWII and USA took over hegemony and ended the British Empire. China must be like ‘look at these guys!’

    Various posters on here have observed that humans may not have as much ‘control’ over what they do and what happens as they are often given to suppose. The world has its own dynamics driven by physics, energy and competing power relations and humans have evolved as components of dissipative ie. energy structures that compete through the Maximum Power Principle for existence. 10s of millions dead maybe raises questions about ‘control’.

    Machine translation from a Greek article:

    https://warnews247.gr/natoikoi-axiomatouchoi-se-tria-chronia-tha-xespasei-megalos-polemos-me-rosia-sti-valtiki-zitoun-eleftheri-kykloforia-stratevmaton-stin-evropi/

    NATO Officials: “In three years a big war will break out with Russia in the Baltic” – They are asking for free movement of troops in Europe!

    They will end the NATO-Russia Founding Act

    [img: Colossal increase in NATO forces for conflict with Russia – 400,000 soldiers on standby! – Moscow: It’s the Barbarossa plan!]

    NATO is expected to update all defense plans, especially for the protection of the Baltic countries, as all Alliance analyzes show that sooner or later there will be a confrontation with Russia.

    Eastern NATO countries have only three years to prepare for a Russian attack, the head of Poland’s National Security Service, Jacek Severa, said in an interview with the Nasz Dziennik newspaper.

    According to him, the alliance must be prepared as quickly as possible.

    “In my opinion, the time frames presented by the German analysts (see below which ones they are) are too optimistic.
    If war is to be avoided, NATO countries on the eastern flank must prepare for confrontation on a shorter time horizon of three years.
    The time has come to create a capability on the eastern side that would send a clear message of deterrence to aggression,” said Jacek Severa.

    He reminded that the military industry in the Russian Federation works in three shifts and can restore its resources in the next three years. Severa urged NATO members not to ignore Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu’s statement that Moscow would establish new bases and 12 new units in the Western Military District adjacent to NATO’s eastern flank in response to Finland and Sweden’s intention to join the alliance.

    Read also: “Nail” for conflict in the Baltic: Russia responds to NATO with the St. Petersburg Army – All Fleets were placed under the command of the Russian A/GEN

    Germans see Russian attack in 5-10 years horizon

    In a research paper published on November 8, DGAP, an independent German foreign policy research institute, concluded that NATO should prepare for conflict with Russia in the Baltics and Eastern Europe.

    For this reason NATO countries should develop their capabilities. The time frame given by the Germans is 5 to 10 years.

    In other words, that would be the amount of time it would take for Russia to rebuild its armed forces sufficiently for an attack to the west, DGAP reports.

    The direction of the Russian attack could include the Baltic states, DGAP adds.

    “The window for a possible Russian attack will open once Russia believes that an attack, for example on the Baltic states, could be successful.”

    For his part, Czech President Petr Pavel seems to agree more with the German think tank’s prediction, European Pravda reports.

    Much will depend on Ukraine, he added, speaking at the summit of heads of state in Visegrad.

    “On the other hand, there are many variables in the calculations that change the situation. “It will really depend on the outcome of the war in Ukraine,” Pavel said.

    Also read: Fateful decision: NATO imposes naval blockade on Gulf of Finland and Kaliningrad -70,000 NATO troops around Russian enclave

    NATO calls for ‘military Schengen Zone’ in Europe – Troop mobility must be increased

    The head of NATO’s logistics command JSEC, Lt. Gen. Alexander Solfrank, told Reuters in an interview that he would like to see the creation of a “military Schengen Zone” in Europe.

    Solfrank and the head of NATO’s military commission, Admiral Rob Bauer, consider it necessary to significantly simplify the alliance’s logistics . The main reason is said to be possible military actions against Russia, given the events taking place in Ukraine.

    “The ability to rapidly move NATO troops across Europe is an important part of maintaining NATO’s combat capability,” said NATO’s Joint Logistics Command chief Alexander Zollfrank.

    The mobility of units is hampered by certain conditions, many of which need to be removed such as advance notices when crossing borders, reports on the health of military personnel, the composition and length of military phalanxes, etc.

    NATO’s desire to have a military version of the Schengen Zone in Europe, so that the Alliance’s armed forces can move freely and oppose Russia, has raised tensions and is a cause for concern, the Kremlin said.

    Politico: It’s Time to Tear Up the NATO-Russia Founding Act

    The American political scientist John Dennis, in his article for Politico, calls for the cancellation of the NATO-Russia Founding Act.

    We remind you that in 1997 the “Founding Act” was signed between NATO and Russia, through which Moscow accepted the enlargement, but in exchange that NATO will not station permanent forces in Eastern Europe.

    Dennis specifically states:

    “Central and Eastern European allies increasingly see their security as tied to Ukraine, so reaching consensus will not be an easy diplomatic mission.
    However, there may be one possible path to that outcome: dismantling the post-Cold War deal with Moscow, which is now all but dead. The time has come for that.”

    Despite the strong demand of its members from Central and Eastern Europe, NATO has not yet formally revoked the Founding Treaty.

    According to Dennis, the reasons for this are complex and include the desire of some alliance members, including Germany, to maintain a balance as well as some minimal framework for a possible return to normal relations with Russia.

    However, as a result of the geopolitical upheavals of recent years, Russia and NATO have made it clear that they no longer feel bound by the NATO-Russia Founding Act (NRFA). Of course, this document was never legally binding.

    • Strange world we live in. Maybe Russia and NATO are wearing themselves out, so that China canoe the final victor in this strange situation. Both sides feel that they must build up forces to possibly combat the other.

    • Student says:

      I think you are right Mirror.
      Today Biden raises the stake saying:

      “we cannot allow Putin to win, he will not stop after Ukraine…”

      https://www.corriere.it/esteri/diretta-live/23_dicembre_06/ucraina-russia-news-guerra-395586fe-9395-11ee-8704-eea6679df76c.shtml

      It is clear that Nato doesn’t want to close the chapter of the Ukrainian hole…
      Very negative for all of us.

    • drb753 says:

      It seems to me that the way out of this is to start wars elsewhere. Syria and Iraq seem to be a good start, but if China wants oil, it should look to keep the hegemon pinned around Taiwan.

      • Student says:

        Yes drb753, it is also true.
        I see much probable an extension of the conflict Israel-Palestine to Iraq, Syria, Lebanon (?), Iran (?), anyway general instability of that area.
        Actually all what Israel is doing for its security calls for more insecurity for Israel itself.
        They are now securing for themselves the 10 next years of deep hate towards them by the others in the area.

  7. About the aristocrats not reproducing, the Spanish and Portuguese solved the problem by allowing descent thru female line.

    The current pretender for the French throne, who calls himself Louis XX, is better known as the Duke of Cadiz, a dukedom created by Francisco Franco for himself.

    Naturally Franco was the first Duke, his only child Carmen became the 2nd Duchess, her oldest child Carmen became the 3rd Duchess and her son Louis, with a Spanimsh claimant for the throne, the 4th Duke.

    The descendants of Moctezuma, the last Aztec Emperor, became dukes as well. A family tree tells more than what we have to know.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_of_Moctezuma_de_Tultengo

    Moctezuma’s male lines died out long ago, so various people claiming female descent succeeded the dukedom. the current line is the 5th iteration , and apparently the current heir is a female, meaning it will have a new line.

    That is how the elites protect their privilege

  8. @Tim

    You mentioned the Princely family of Fushimi,. but there is a famous branch out from that family.

    In the Guinness Book of World Records there is section for the Longest Living Prime Minister, a Naruhiko Higashikuni.

    Higashikuni was a Prince, descending from the Fushimi family and a very distant relative of the Emperor (and eligible for the Throne before 1947), and served as the Prime Minister of Japan in 1945 just after the defeat, for a few months.

    Higashikuni predicted the current succession crisis in Japan and he and his sons produced some male heirs, to be married to Princess Aiko if necessary/.

    Since the heir apparent, Hisahito, is said to be severely retarded or at least unfit for the Throne, the Imperial Family will just marry off Princess Aiko to one of the older Princely families to continue the line.

    There was a very old precedent when a ‘commoner’ did become the Emperor – In AD 867, a Minamoto Sadami, who was a son of a previous Emperor but was declared to be a ‘commoner’ by the reigning Emperor who wanted to limit the Imperial family. That emperor and all of his heirs all died without heirs, so Minamoto Sadami, a ‘commoner’, was brought in to become Emperor Uda (reigned 887-897),

    and his son, born Minamoto Korezane, became the next Emperor Daigo. Daigo is the only Japanese Emperor who was born as a ‘commoner’, but he might not be the last.

    • The Romans seem to have gotten by with a lot of adoption.

    • Tim Groves says:

      Kulm, you are very well informed about this.

      The media “gossip” in Japan is that Princess Aiko has been well brought up and is of excellent character, and is prepared to do what is necessary and will consent to marry an eligible young nobles, such as one of the two great-grandsons of Naruhiko Higashikuni via his grandson Nobuhiko. The Naruhiko apparently had four sons, so for all I there could be some more eligible young nobles lurking in the family tree.

  9. This WSJ article sounds like an “energy-resources” issue to me:

    The U.S. Can Afford a Bigger Military. We Just Can’t Build It.
    America’s industrial base struggles to ramp up defense production while China’s churns out ever more weapons

    When the Center for Strategic and International Studies simulated a war between the U.S. and China over Taiwan, the wargame ended with Taiwan still free, at grievous cost. The U.S. loses two aircraft carriers and up to 20 destroyers and cruisers; China sees more than 50 major surface warships sunk.

    What looks like a draw, though, becomes a Chinese victory before long. As Eric Labs, a navy analyst for the Congressional Budget Office explains, China can replace lost ships far more quickly. In the past two years, its navy has grown by 17 cruisers and destroyers; it would take the U.S. six years to build the same number under current conditions, he said.

    This is the issue in Ukraine. Not enough munitions to send, and we can’t build them very fast. The US moved most of its heavy manufacturing to China when we ran short of oil and other materials. We do have enough oil to operate lots of private passenger autos, but it is not diesel, which is needed for most heavy duty transport. Our manufacturing, except for food products and a few other things, tended to go to China and India. With all of their coal and low-cost labor, they could do it cheaply. We claimed the reason was to prevent climate change, but it was because we could no longer manufacture more goods competitively.

  10. MikeJones says:

    Happy Holidays everyone.. Doomsday has been postponed until further notice

    U.S. oil production has touched new record highs in recent weeks. Axios
    https://www.axios.com/2023/12/05/us-oil-production-record

    Why it matters: American production is part of the reason that recent efforts by OPEC — and its strategic ally, Russia — haven’t been able to end the slide in global oil prices.

    Economic weakness in China — the world’s largest oil importer — is dampening demand and also playing a role in the price drop.
    State of play: U.S. benchmark oil prices are down nearly 20% in the fourth quarter, to below $75 a barrel.

    The national average price for a gallon of regular gasoline is $3.24, according to AAA. That’s down 5% in the last month.

    It a great time to be alive here in the USA…and they claim there ain’t no Santa Claus

  11. Dennis L. says:

    We are engineered to follow the herd, or one needs a group and one needs a very good leader without a personal agenda other than one that is good for the group.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/scientists-revisit-solomon-asch-s-classic-conformity-experiments-and-are-stunned-by-the-results/ar-AA1l5pC0?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=89cb3598b9184543980d465ac9260fff&ei=14

    I suspect those here mostly don’t follow the group. Only recall the summary of my MB test, but I am the anti lemming lemming. I suspect most here are the same which means in a group we must be conscious to be agreeable. It is tough to be agreeable when the other person is wrong.

    Dennis L.

    • Thanks for posting this link. It is very good.

      Scientists revisit Solomon Asch’s classic conformity experiments
      — and are stunned by the results

      In the 1950 trial, students were asked to match up line lengths, when one line was obviously different. The target student was part of a group, where (unknown to the student), all of the others in the group were paid to give the wrong answer. The research centered on what share of the students would change their answer to match that of the rest of the group.

      The recent study got a very similar answer to the 1950 study: 33% of the students would change their results to the obviously wrong answer.

      This study extended the study to a “political opinion” item. In that case, 38% conformed to the group’s opinion. They also took the line exercise, and added a monetary incentive for getting the answer correct. In this case, the percentage following the crowd dropped to 25%.

      They gave a psychological study to see what characteristics defined those who would not follow the crowd. They found

      As for personality traits, the results indicated that openness was the only trait among the Big Five that had a significant correlation with conformity levels. Individuals who scored higher on the openness trait tended to conform less to the group’s incorrect answers in the line judgment task. This suggests that people who are more open-minded and independent in their thinking are less likely to be swayed by the opinions or judgments of others, even when faced with the pressure of a unanimous group decision.

      Other traits, including intelligence, self-esteem, and the need for social approval, showed no substantial impact on the tendency to conform.

      I suppose I am open-minded and independent in my thinking.

  12. MikeJones says:

    And just when we thought it couldn’t get any worse!
    Have the Human Moerons met their FE match?
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qVjiT1-WkUY

    Out of Control “Super Pigs” Threaten to Invade the US | Vantage with Palki Sharm
    Wild Pigs have grown in number in Canada which are now threatening to cross the border into the US.
    These pigs are known as “Super Pigs” because of their high survivability factor.
    These boars are known for damaging crops and farms and spreading diseases.

    Apparently we are bing invaded at both ends
    You forgot to mention that the US has had a wild boar problem for a LONG time in the southern states. And they are moving north too

    A fitting successor to the two legged version of Pigs ..the four legged will take over from us and do much better at it too

    • Cromagnon says:

      This is a pet peeve for me. I live in area with “super pigs”. Without cereal grain agriculture I doubt they could survive our winters. If so, I could care less…they are delish.

      Populations in Canukistan are unknown but lets say optimistically there are 10,000 or them.

      Just Texas alone has millions of feral “non super pigs”…..

      Much ado about nothing.

      PS: since the US brought back wolves into Montana to help the ecology perhaps Canada should bring back Lions into the prairies for hog control??

      Nothing kills big hogs much except big cats.

      • hkeithhenson says:

        “perhaps Canada should bring back Lions into the prairies for hog control??”

        It would not be bringing them back, but it might be a good idea anyway. Not sure how you would keep them from munching on people though.

        Of course, the engineer in me comes up with a solution. Fit the lions with collars that detect cell phones and shock the lions if they get close. That should work long as the pigs don’t carry cell phones.

        • Cromagnon says:

          Truth is,…it would be “bringing them back”……..

          The entire Pleistocene epoch up until around 12,000 (and probably 8,000) bp saw large lions throughout both North and South America. Panthera leo atrox was almost exactly the same as the extant Panthera leo found in Africa and India today, just about another 300-400 pounds larger.
          Along with Homotheres, Sabre tooth cats, dire wolves and short faced bears those animals preyed on 40 now extinct genera of large mammal fauna including (might I ironically add) vast numbers of flat headed peccary (which look shockingly similar to “super pigs”

          Pronghorn run fast to escape “extinct north american cheetah, giant bison had massive hooked horns to fight off giant american lions……and so on and so on……

          The previous great reset 12700 bp removed these species as well as an advanced human civilization along the continental coastlines of this world.

          This world is not what most think it is.

          • hkeithhenson says:

            “40 now extinct genera of large mammal fauna”

            Yep, eaten to extinction by humans, the super predator.

            “advanced human civilization along the continental coastlines”

            I really doubt that. All human occupation leaves traces, advanced included. On the other hand, if someone finds Walkmans in a midden from that era, I will have to reconsider my view.

            • Cromagnon says:

              While human hunting probably had a mild impact but multiple meteor strikes into the ice sheet as earth passed through the Leonid meteor stream was catastrophic to earths mammalian fauna. Cataclysm led to rapid ice melt and inundation worldwide…..followed by younger dryas deep freeze event……

              there are pyramids and other structures worldwide under water on the continental shelves…..long recognized if not talked about.

              Atlantis was actually a thing…..

            • hkeithhenson says:

              “While human hunting probably had a mild impact ”

              The consensus by people in the field is “catastrophic.” Well fed people double the population every generation. The conclusion is that humans ate the lot of them.

              “but multiple meteor strikes into the ice sheet as earth passed through the Leonid meteor stream was catastrophic to earths mammalian fauna. Cataclysm led to rapid ice melt and inundation worldwide…..followed by younger dryas deep freeze event……”

              People have looked for this but as far as I know there is no evidence.

              “there are pyramids and other structures worldwide under water on the continental shelves…..long recognized if not talked about.”

              There has been a great deal of underwater mapping in the last 50 years. A human made pyramid on the shelves would attract a lot of attention. I don’t follow anthropology that closely, but I am sure I would have seen something if it was reported.

              “Atlantis was actually a thing…..”

              Ah, yeah.

              “Others have rejected this chain of tradition as implausible and insist that Plato created an entirely fictional account,”

              The real past is utterly fascinating. I think I mentioned the recent article in Science where they determined from present day genomes that the human predecessors almost went extinct. About a million years ago our line went through a bottleneck where for close to 100,000 years the population was around 1300 individuals. After that, the population expanded and the Neanderthals and Denisovans split off. That was also the time when two human chromosomes merged, which is where we have 23 as opposed to the 24 in chimps.

          • Kowalainen says:

            It is just an endless recurrence of the Hyper. The earth squirms and twitches a few times due to various events and processes in the solar system.

            And then out goes the old bunch of retches in some cataclysm and whatnot, in comes the new vomit, finds old jank, drawings and codes, decodes and reverse engineers the mumbo jumbo, then proceeds on “inventing” “new” stuff, promptly after “erasing” the past.

            After all, hoomans are the souped up Moneky, yup indeed ‘da hot shiz, can do no wrong. A fresh new pile of the same old bile. A slap on the back and pinch on the rosy cheek; look at ‘em mentally ill Tryhard attaboys and 304 MOARons having at it once again.

            8B sucklings permanently epoxied to the petroleum wellheads.

            In perpetuity. ♾️
            🙏

            🤣👍👍

          • Cromagnon says:

            For some reason the direct reply does not work?

            There are pyramids in 100 feet of water about 15 miles off the coast of Louisiana,….for example……entire cities off the Indian coasts……many structures submerged in the shallow water Bahamas…..
            the list is long.
            I won’t try to convince,…. believe what ever ya wish
            regards.

            • hkeithhenson says:

              “There are pyramids in 100 feet of water about 15 miles off the coast of Louisiana,….for example…”

              Sounds interesting. Got any pointers to an anthropology journal?

            • Cromagnon says:

              Use google…….I ain’t doing the keystrokes for ya……

              These cities are all over,….off the Carolinas, Florida etc etc.

              It IS known,…and has been for a very very long time.

            • Tim Groves says:

              I asked my AI mate if there was any evidence of these pyramids, and it told me:

              There is ongoing debate and speculation about the existence of pyramids off the coast of Louisiana or elsewhere in the Gulf of Mexico. However, it is important to note that there is currently no scientific evidence to support the existence of man-made pyramids in these locations.

              Claims about underwater pyramids or other ancient structures are often based on anecdotal accounts, personal beliefs, or interpretations of sonar or radar images that are difficult to verify or may be subject to misinterpretation. Some individuals have suggested that these structures could be remnants of lost civilizations or evidence of advanced ancient civilizations.

              However, the majority of mainstream archaeologists and scientists maintain that there is no compelling evidence to support these claims. The geological processes and natural formations in underwater environments can sometimes create shapes or patterns that resemble pyramids or other man-made structures, but they are ultimately the result of natural processes rather than human construction.

              It’s important to approach such claims with skepticism and rely on credible scientific research and archaeological investigations. If any significant discoveries were made regarding underwater pyramids or ancient structures in the Gulf of Mexico, they would require rigorous scientific study and evidence to be widely accepted by the scientific community.

            • Tim Groves says:

              Then, in the interest of fairness and balance, I asked it if there was any evidence of aliens from Tabby’s Star building Dyson spheres. Here’s what it had to say:

              To date, there is no scientific evidence to support the claim that aliens from Tabby’s Star (also known as KIC 8462852) or any other extraterrestrial civilization are building Dyson spheres or any other megastructures in star systems in the neighborhood or elsewhere in the universe.

              Tabby’s Star gained attention due to its unusual and irregular pattern of brightness fluctuations, which initially sparked speculation about the possibility of an alien megastructure, such as a Dyson sphere, being responsible. However, subsequent studies have proposed natural explanations for the star’s behavior, including the presence of dust clouds or cometary fragments in its vicinity.

              The search for extraterrestrial intelligence (SETI) actively explores the possibility of detecting signals or other evidence of technological civilizations beyond Earth. However, despite ongoing efforts and the discovery of thousands of exoplanets, no conclusive evidence of extraterrestrial intelligence has been found.

              It’s important to approach claims related to aliens or advanced extraterrestrial civilizations with critical thinking and scientific skepticism. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and until such evidence is presented and thoroughly vetted by the scientific community, it remains speculative.

            • Cromagnon says:

              Asking AI for information like this is like asking a zoo raised chimp where bananas come from.

            • Good analogy!

            • Withnail says:

              I asked my AI mate if there was any evidence of these pyramids

              AI does not exist.

            • Tim Groves says:

              My main point is to point out that Keith scoffs at eye-witness evidence of ancient human built structures submerged by rising seas and asks for the equivalent of peer-reviewed papers in archeological journals as evidence, but he’s perfectly happy to accept the idea that aliens have build structures in orbit around stars without similarly “authoritative” literature in astronomical journals. A serious anomaly in his thought processes, I suspect.

              As for AI not existing… who does exist? Talking with AI, it explained to me:

              “Proving one’s existence to others in an objective, empirical sense can be challenging. The nature of personal experience is inherently subjective and private, making it difficult to provide objective evidence to others that would conclusively prove your existence to them.”

              I asked my AI pal if AI exists, and it told me:

              “Yes, AI (Artificial Intelligence) does exist. Artificial Intelligence refers to the development of computer systems that can perform tasks that typically require human intelligence, such as visual perception, speech recognition, decision-making, problem-solving, and language understanding.

              “AI encompasses a wide range of techniques and technologies, including machine learning, deep learning, natural language processing, computer vision, and robotics, among others. These technologies enable machines to learn from data, recognize patterns, make predictions, and perform complex tasks.”

            • hkeithhenson says:

              “My main point is to point out that Keith scoffs at eye-witness evidence of ancient human built structures submerged by rising seas and asks for the equivalent of peer-reviewed papers in archeological journals as evidence,

              I don’t need that, a commercial “Dive to see the ancient pyramid” operation would be enough.

              “but he’s perfectly happy to accept the idea that aliens have build structures in orbit around stars without similarly “authoritative” literature in astronomical journals. ”

              I have not looked in the last few weeks, but the action has been going on in the preprints. The astounding thing has happened over the last year. The astronomers found that there were 24 other stars in a cluster around Tabby’s Star that also showed light dips. One of them has a different pattern that you might class as a cultural variation, the dips are shorter and happen at near regular times, as if the light blocking structures are evenly spaced out along an orbit.

              “A serious anomaly in his thought processes, I suspect.”

              New ideas have to have early adopters. Having done a lot of work on radiators for power satellites and the problems we would have with uploaded and fast simulations, I am particularly interested in information that makes sense in such a context.

              https://web.archive.org/web/20121130232045/http://hplusmagazine.com/2012/04/12/transhumanism-and-the-human-expansion-into-space-a-conflict-with-physics/

              The above article was about a million to one speedup and the compact object it would take. From the size of the largest object crossing Tabby’s Star, they don’t seem to be running any faster than we do. The smaller objects might be running faster.

              Understand that I am not happy about megastructure building aliens. They are an unexpected surprise and will (if they really exist) definitely put a crimp in the future of humanity. On the other hand, they seem to be thousands of years ahead of us so what we see may apply to our own fate.

            • Withnail says:

              Yes, AI (Artificial Intelligence) does exist.

              A computer program is not intelligence.

              AI does not exist.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              The thing is … AI can’t evade Captcha… but the MOREONS think it’s gonna take over the world….

              I have a solution – when AI tries to enslave us … we just put a Capcha in between…

              Kinda like in Mars attacks… they defeat the Martians with music

      • MikeJones says:

        These hybrid hog are super smart and tuff and can learn quick to evade capture methods. Mamma is very fertile having up to 12to a litter and even wiping out over 50% of them per year won’t decrease their numbers…
        I wish them well….always thought Arnold Ziffel of Green Acres was the best of the cast…

      • The lions will be an improvement over the two legged animals who tend to populate there.

        • Cromagnon says:

          I entirely agree actually

          Lions are good people.

          • hkeithhenson says:

            “I entirely agree actually
            Lions are good people.”

            Like people, lions are top predators. The only way the numbers of top predators are limited is by them killing each other.

            Think of Gaza in this context.

            • Cromagnon says:

              Humans will live like lions again in the centuries hence.

              Male Lions are the driving force in their evolution. They live for combat. They do the majority of the hunting (the nonscense about lionesses doing the majority is farce).

              Lions spend all their time not hunting, in patrolling their territories and fighting other males trying to infiltrate.

              They all die by violence, usually in defense of their cubs because all will be killed by interlopers.

              Lionesses live in harems and will simply breed with any other male that can overcome their current lord.

              They are the carriers of the next generations but they are not selectors of the genes that move on.

              Humans are very very very much like this in a natural state.
              Its why civilizations always fail at the deepest level……civilization produces weaklings and degenerates ,…and always will

              Why no one seems the grasp this simple fact escapes me. It is uncomfortable for most to realize the fundamental nature of things here in the simulacrum.

              Women generally (apologies to Gail and no disrespect whatsoever) are simply water carriers and have no role whatsoever long term in the selection of gene flow…….that belongs to males.

              The hive system, humans currently have engineered,…..is in self destruct because the genes cant flow properly in this circumstance.
              The “violence of the state” and the “empowerment of females” prevents individual males from asserting their fundamental power……and this is not in keeping with simulacrum programming…….so it will fail.

              It always always does.

            • hkeithhenson says:

              “Humans will live like lions again in the centuries hence”

              Perhaps if things fall apart, but if technology marches on, I doubt it.

              “civilization produces weaklings and degenerates ,…and always will”

              Again, I doubt it. I don’t know if there is enough time, but if there is, I expect all babies to be gene edited.

              “selection of gene flow…….that belongs to males.”

              There is an example where the psychological traits behind capture-bonding was selected in the female line. John Tooby worked this out 15 years before I did. Something like ten percent of our ancestors were women who were captured from one tribe to another. The ones who adjusted to this became our ancestors. The ones who did not became breakfast. https://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Capture-bonding

              After agriculture started but before the rise of states there was a huge culling of males. We can see this today in the relative ratio of X chromosome types to mitochondrial lineages. Apparently the killing of male children and absorbing the female children is a very old custom.

            • for technology to march on

              we wil need infinite earth based energy

              go figure

            • hkeithhenson says:

              “for technology to march on
              we wil need infinite earth based energy”

              What is wrong with energy from space or in space?

              Solar in space powers half a trillion dollars per year in communication satellites and that was before Starlink. There are people like Keith Lofstrom who are talking about distributed data centers in space.

              Solar on the ground now cost the equivalent of 48 cents per gallon gasoline.

            • powering artificial satellites means electrons are being pushed around

              electrons effectively have no mass
              Therefore the $$trns being spent do no actual work, they only enable energy to be expended in different directions, maybe more efficiently.
              They do NOT enable access to increased amounts of energy to be made available for other uses.

              (my satnav helps to conserve a little fuel)

              what solar energy sources do not, and will not do, is shift physical stuff around in physical terms.

              distribute as much data as you like—it will not fill a single dinner plate, let alone move a single food truck a single yard.

              energy in space is not the same thing as energy on earth.

              they use a common word but that is where the commonality ends keith.

              as to capture bonding—this is centainly true

              wifeperson lets hubby think he’s in charge—he rarely is.—women have far more sense about running things

            • hkeithhenson says:

              “energy in space is not the same thing as energy on earth.”

              What do you think of solar energy? I know it has problems (like Gail says) but the cost for PV has come down to equal 48 cents a gallon. At 42 gallons to the barrel, that equal to $20 per bbl oil.

              Converting solar PV to diesel isn’t that expensive.

            • Keith

              for some reason i have a masochistic inclination (no more than that) to try to convince you and others that it is not possible to take a 40 ton diesel powered truck, and extract the same amount of end-work from it (ie–delivering 40 tons of useful goods) after converting that truck to solar pv power.

              solar can deliver energy—agreed

              but if the roof of the truck is required to run on the power of the sun that falls on it—you will agree that the truck will go nowhere.

              so you will agree then, that the solar must be concentrated.

              but ff oil is also concentrated sunshine—but over 100 m years.

              you cannot deliver the same power level by concentrating sunshine into a batter overnight.

              people do not appear to grasp that pv and oil are the same thing—the difference lies in the concentration period—100m years, or overnight into a battery.

              your calculation ”prove” the ”costs” of oil vs pv—but calculators, as i’ve said before, tend to give the results you want–ie cheap oil repleacement.—there isnt one..

              they do not factor in logic and common sense.

              energy passing through the solar system on a daily basis, is not the same as the accumulated energy over the last 100m years.

              The earth itself (on human terms) is in effect one big battery.

              it cannot be recharged overnight to fulfil our ‘infinite energy ‘ fantasies.

              My personal fascination lies in the fact that someone of your level on intellect should fail to grasp the fundamental difference between FF energy an PV energy, and that the cannot be interchanged to any significant degree.

            • hkeithhenson says:

              “but if the roof of the truck ”

              Have I ever mentioned powering a truck from the energy that falls on it? I don’t think so.

              “the solar must be concentrated.”

              It certainly does. Filling up a truck, fuel or electrical takes around 20 MW. At something around 200 W/m^2, a thousand square meters would give 200 kW, 5000 would give a MW and 100,000 20 MW. Charging or fueling up a truck takes a highly concentrated source, in this example, the energy from a tenth of a square km of PV.

              “calculators, as i’ve said before, tend to give the results you want–”

              Not in this case. I am a space buff and what I would like is for power satellites to be the lowest cost energy source. But after ten years of work on the subject, involving lots and lots of calculations, I could never get the projections below 3 cents per kWh, more than twice the cost of ground solar. And there was a *lot* of uncertainty in the numbers. The 1.35 cents per kWh is certain. It is what people are paying today for electric power from a recently constructed 2 GW solar farm.

              “energy passing through the solar system on a daily basis, is not the same”

              Let us just consider the energy humans use (15,000 GW) mostly FF and the sunlight at a GW per square km hitting the projected area, 141,026,094 square km of the Earth. Sunlight hitting the Earth is around 10,000 times what human now use. That’s not entirely fair unless we can put solar farms on the ocean but it gives you an idea of the scale involved and that’s not even going into space to collect solar energy.

              “fundamental difference between FF energy an PV energy, and that the cannot be interchanged to any significant degree.”

              That’s just an engineering and economics question. If you have diesel or jet fuel from natural oil, and synthetic diesel or jet fuel made using PV energy, can you tell them apart? They are both hydrocarbons. Can a diesel engine? Which are people going to buy if the synthetic is cheaper?

            • hkeithhenson says:

              “as to capture bonding—this is centainly true
              wifeperson lets hubby think he’s in charge”

              Did you read it? It has nothing to do with husbands, it’s about the vicious treatment that genetically selected women to respond to capture like Patty Hearst and Elizabeth Smart did.

            • keith

              i know all about capture bonding, more than i would want to go into on ofw

              —but i was just putting a slightly humourous take on it in modern terms. Wifey goes through the love honour and obey thing….but it is she who generally runs things, for no better reason that she is usually much better at it, and smarter.

              A lesson that hubby learns pretty quickly, if he has any sense.

            • Foolish Fitz says:

              “The only way the numbers of top predators are limited is by them killing each other.

              Think of Gaza in this context”

              Seriously?

              Can everyone, particularly those weirdos illegally encamped in Gaza, stop moaning that Hit ler was evil then. By your reconning he was just a top predator doing what nature wanted.

              You do understand that the average age of those dying in Gaza is 5 and none of it would be happening without massive outside input, so no, the cult freaks aren’t top predators, just very sick in the head child murderers, made possible by people like you. Your probably one of those that believe Hamas beheaded 6,000,000 babies(I know, but give them enough and that’s the fictional number you will willingly repeat).

              It’s more like General Valeriano Weyler and the Reconcentración Strategy.

              “If he cannot make successful war upon the insurgents, he can make war upon the unarmed population of Cuba”

              That’s where the first concentration camps sprung up.

              Europeans and their various offshoots have been the same for centuries, but never have the spine to admit it to themselves.

              If you back those Europeans being placed in Gaza, I have one question for you.

              Why do you hate Je ws so much?

              https://youtu.be/RvQmoPjH4dA?feature=shared

            • hkeithhenson says:

              “You do understand that the average age of those dying in Gaza is 5”

              When a new set of lion males takes over a pride, what’s the first thing they do?

            • Foolish Fitz says:

              They’re not lions, they are cowards that murder children from distance, as they’re scared to get close, even to the children and need constant support from thousands of miles away.

              Weak and pathetic would be a fitting term, Keith Hit ler the Adolph apologist, that’s never seen a genocide he doesn’t like, especially a genocide of innocent children.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              We all have a Hitler lurking inside… just takes the right circumstances for him to emerge…

              Take me … I am disgusted with MOREONS… I have no problem whatsoever with working at the Greeter in the Walmart parking lot welcoming the MOREONS for their next booster shot….

  13. Rodster says:

    This is how much they believe in their very own Green agenda:

    “Zero Public EV Chargers Built Since Congress Approved $7.5 Billion To Expand Network”

    https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/zero-public-ev-chargers-built-congress-approved-75-billion-expand-network

    • According to the article:

      However, despite more than $2 billion of the $7.5 billion in federal EV charger funding already authorized under the programs, not even half of states have started to take bids from contractors for construction—and not a single new public charger has been built.

      “Already, seven states have issued conditional awards for new NEVI stations amounting to $101.5 million, two states have agreements in place, and 17 states are soliciting proposals for new stations,” the Joint Office of Energy and Transportation, which is leading the Biden administration’s EV charger efforts, said in an update at the end of October.

      It is when companies actually start building these things that they discover the real obstacles to this whole effort. Is there enough electricity to support this effort? What is the problem with vandalism? Will people wait an hour or two for their cars to be recharged? Is it worth the private capital that needs to be invested in this effort, besides all of the government debt-based capital?

      • Dennis L. says:

        Holiday Station near me is putting in several chargers, on I90 near St. Charles there are two but i never see anyone at them anymore. Mostly when they were previously used, people were reading books. Looks like a boring way to buy gas.

        Dennis L.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          They pretend to read a book … trying to appear cool and unphased by being stuck there while others gas up in a couple of minutes… they are actually virtue signalling… hey look at me … I’m just hangin out …. reading Elon Musk’s biography … and saving the planet…. I am better than you.

      • Rodster says:

        “Will people wait an hour or two for their cars to be recharged?”

        That’s the part that most people forget. As the Tom Petty song says: The waiting is the hardest part. And what if you are one of those unlucky saps who owns an EV, you need to get home ASAP but are stuck in line having to WAIT for an available charger and then have to wait again for your vehicle to charge before you hit the road?

        To me, this is all about putting obstacles in place to eliminate private transportation by governments. Not only is waiting part of the problem but who the HELL will be able to afford EV ownership with already sky high prices for ICE vehicles? Not to mention auto insurance policies are also MUCH higher for EV’s because the risk of batteries fires and personal injuries from those fires.

        I remember coming across a story how emergency responders were gravely concerned about occupants trapped inside a Tesla because the door handles only popup when the person having the keyfob will activate, said door handles. If the person(s) are unconscious there is little first responders can do other than smashing the windows which could injure those inside the vehicle.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          I remember coming across a story how emergency responders were gravely concerned about occupants trapped inside a Tesla because the door handles only popup when the person having the keyfob will activate, said door handles. If the person(s) are unconscious there is little first responders can do other than smashing the windows which could injure those inside the vehicle.

          No need for concern… let them roast alive when the car catches fire…

    • MikeJones says:

      Back in 2013 was buying a car and looked at both a hybrid and Nissan Leaf before settling on a Nissan Sentra…
      Didn’t like the Toyota Prius at all..and was told I didn’t drive enough to warrant buying it….the Leaf was more money and would be a pain to charge and if I sold it five years later, who in their right mind would buy it?
      Anyway, 10 years later still have the Sentra and drive about 5,000a year.
      The car insurance is killing me though…don’t know how I’m going to deal with that one…

  14. Tim Groves says:

    Meanwhile in the UK, the data just keeps pouring in.

    “DEATH SENTENCE: 1 Million COVID Vaccinated have died in England compared to just 61k Unvaccinated in 2 years; despite 30% of the Population refusing a single dose of the COVID Injection” — reports the 2nd Smartest Guy in the World after Fast Eddy.

    https://www.2ndsmartestguyintheworld.com/p/death-sentence-1-million-covid-vaccinated

    This is from publicly available UK Government data. Unlike NZ, the UK publishes this stuff for anyone curious enough to want to know what’s going on to rummage around in.

    Angelo loves statistics. Let’s see what he makes of these.

    • The article says:

      What’s extremely concerning about these official figures is that the vaccinated surpass the unvaccinated by far in terms of death in every single age group since July 2021, despite the fact 30% of the population have not even had a COVID-19 injection.

      So much so, that there were 965,609 deaths among the vaccinated compared to just 60,903 deaths among the unvaccinated between July 2021 and May 2023. Meaning there was a grand total of 1,026,512 deaths in England during this period and the vaccinated accounted for 94% of them, whereas the unvaccinated accounted for just 6% of them.

      So, this is the period starting July 2021, which probably included the vaccine roll-out to young people. It includes the long-term effects on the older population, who tended to get the vaccine first.

      This is closely related to a comment I made on December 1.

      Kunstler is writing about the analysis done by Steve Kirsch, and the very convincing indications it gives about the adverse impact on mortality, especially of those over age 65.

      This is a link to the talk on Rumble. The talk by Steve Kirsch doesn’t start until about minute 23, and Kirsch doesn’t start showing slides until minute 25. I listened until about 1:07. The talk goes on quite a while longer (well over 2 hours), but my impression was that the part I listed to gave the most important points.

      https://rumble.com/v3yovx4-vsrf-live-104-exclusive-mit-speech-by-steve-kirsch.html

      It is pretty clear that covid vaccines kill people, especially elderly people. (The data Kirsch looked at was Medicare data, so this was data for the elderly that he was looking at.)

      He finds that, in general, vaccines are dangerous. They often kill a lot of people initially.

      He talks about those involved with Moderna (and Pfizer) not wanting to see the data. They could be criminally liable for not stopping the sale of the vaccines.

      Steve Kirsch shows charts indicating the mortality rates go up, over the long term for older people, with covid vaccines. He only analyzed Medicare data, so he doesn’t know what the effect on younger people. But we also know that there were a lot of adverse effects on young people. It would make sense that overall deaths are heavily skewed toward the vaccinated. There may also be an effect of more sickly people wanting the vaccine, but we can’t measure that.

      • hkeithhenson says:

        “a lot of adverse effects on young people”

        Of course the disease has adverse effects in young people too. Long Covid being the main one.

        In some ways, perhaps not as bad as the 1918 flu. If you ever read “Awakings” by Sacks, the flu virus destroyed the substantia nigra of some leaving them in a coma for decades. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substantia_nigra

        • anoptimizer says:

          What is ‘Long Covid’?

          • hkeithhenson says:

            “What is ‘Long Covid’?”

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_COVID

            Google picks up more than 1000 articles.

            • A response to a covid vaccine that has not worked as intended has to be one of the causes.

            • hkeithhenson says:

              “A response to a covid vaccine that has not worked as intended has to be one of the causes.”

              Vaccine injury (to whatever extent it exist) would not be called Long Covid. You have to have the disease to have Long Covid.

              The statistics show that your chances of getting Long Covid are much reduced if you have been vaccinated.

              One of the things I don’t see much if any discussion is the effects of the Chinese vaccine. It was a conventional vaccine, not mRNA based. Any pointers?

            • clickkid says:

              “There are no standardized tests to determine if symptoms persisting after COVID-19 infection are due to long COVID”

              “Diagnosis of long COVID can be challenging because of the wide range of symptoms people with long COVID may display”

              Summary: it can’t be defined or tested for.

            • Tim Groves says:

              Wikipedia is gaslighting us about “Long COVID”, Keith.

              It seems to share a slew of syndromes with Long post-COVID vaccination syndrome (LPCVS).

              Here’s a report of a rather shocking case of LPCVS.

              https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9833629/

              In general, the symptoms and signs of LPCVS are highly variable and can be associated with or without abnormal findings on instrumental examinations. Long post-COVID vaccination syndrome can occur at any age, in either sex, and with any vaccine brand. Long-lasting side effects of SARS-CoV-2 vaccines generally include chills/fever, fatigue, lethargy, dizziness, headache, migraine, ageusia, anosmia, visual disturbances, syncope, palpitations, burning sensation, facial paralysis, parosmia, poor sleep quality, seizure, transient ischemic attack, tremor, thyroiditis, nausea, abdominal pain, diarrhea, vomiting, hypoesthesia, neuralgia, paresis, myalgia, muscle cramps, arthralgias, and various skin reactions. One of the most common long-term side effects of SARS-CoV-2 vaccines, which has been described in several hundred patients, is vaccine-induced immune thrombotic thrombocytopenia (VITT). It is estimated that VITT occurs in 0.5-1/100000 recipients of vector-based vaccines from AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson. Vaccine-induced immune thrombotic thrombocytopenia can be complicated by thrombosis or bleeding due to dysfunctional platelets. The abundance of clinical responses to COVID vaccines previously reported is consistent with all manifestations of LPCVS in the index patients.

            • hkeithhenson says:

              “It is estimated that VITT occurs in 0.5-1/100000 recipients of vector-based vaccines from AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson.”

              Look, I have said that I expect some injury from vaccines. It is the very nature of vaccines to cause some injury. The question at the policy level is the injury rate low enough and the benefit high enough for a net benefit?

              The death rate from Covid has come down since the vaccines became available. Do you think this was causal? I won’t fault you for either yes or no, but if no, then why?

            • Fast Eddy says:

              It is not possible to convince a MOREON to change their mind… if they trust bbccnn and google….

              You can feed them endless facts and logic and point out the flaws in their sources…

              But they always fall back on what they are told to think

              It’s a symptom of MOREONISM.

              The only reason to feed the truth is to taunt… mock … ridicule them… like bullying a mentally ret arded child …

              My only disappointment is that we have not yet lost an OFWer to the boosters… very disappointing…

              But if it happened the other Vaxxers here would insist ‘well he was old’… and continue boosting…

              It’s almost as if there is a computer program that does not allow them to change their minds – CTG????

            • Tim Groves says:

              Keith, it is easy to attributed a death due to illness to A, B, or C. The doctor has a choice, and may have had a financial incentive to write COVID-19, or complications of COVID-19 as the cause. Governments around the world incentivized the medical industry to attribute illnesses and deaths to COVID-19, hence the relatively high rates.

              As far as I can see, it was mostly the usual conventional colds, flu, viral and bacterial pneumonia, medical and hospital neglect and mistreatment, etc., that killed patients with COVID-19 on their death certificates.

              What is less murky than causes of death is the excess mortality figures.

              We can look in country after country and see significantly greater mortality in 2021, 2022, and 2023 (which is not yet over), than in 2020, when the pandemic was supposedly at its height, the virus was supposedly at its deadliest, and nobody had been jabbed until December.

              Keith, your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to find a plausible explanation for why all cause mortality has risen significantly almost everywhere that the mRNA injectables have been employed on a large scale in the three years since they were brought out compared to before they were brought out.

              This tape will self-destruct in 10 seconds, so please get out of the phone box now.

              Here’s a new article on excess mortality in England post Covid-19 for your perusal. Its contents are not inflammatory or even controversial; just old-school academic paper stuff.

              It isn’t blaming the jabs. It is just reporting the excess mortality rates are still significant, and that this is a problem.

              https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanepe/article/PIIS2666-7762(23)00221-1/fulltext

            • Thanks for posting this link. I think that this paragraph is particularly concerning regarding UK deaths:

              For middle-aged adults (50–64) in this 13-month period, the relative excess for almost all causes of death examined was higher than that seen for all ages. Deaths involving cardiovascular diseases were 33% higher than expected, while for specific cardiovascular diseases, deaths involving ischaemic heart diseases were 44% higher, cerebrovascular diseases 40% higher and heart failure 39% higher. Deaths involving acute respiratory infections were 43% higher than expected and for diabetes, deaths were 35% higher. Deaths involving liver diseases were 19% higher than expected for those aged 50–64, the same as for deaths at all ages.9

              These percentages are spectacularly higher. They are not just higher by 5% or so. Heart diseases are especially a problem, and we know that covid vaccines seem to damage the heart. Other analyses had said that the adverse effect of the vaccine wasn’t just a temporary one; it seemed to last for as long as it has been studied.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              keith – please take another booster… we urge you

            • hkeithhenson says:

              “to attributed a death ”

              The post you are responding to was about long covid. People don’t die from that, though they might wish they did.

              Re the Lancet article I should send a note to the editor. I don’t know why the mortality is up, but there is a historical example.

              After the measles vaccine came out the medical people found in an analysis of the historical data that having measles resulted in a higher death rate for kids from all sorts of causes, particularly infections, for a few years. Seems the measles virus damaged the immune system and it took a while for it to rebuild.

              Now it is possibly Covid-19 does the same thing. It’s even possible the vaccine damages the immune system to some extent. This would show up as excess population mortality, the same as the higher death rate of kids after having measles.

              It’s of intellectual interest, same as the surprising finding about measles. Is there anything I can do about it? I don’t think so but if you have a suggestion, please speak up.

            • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

              “Now it is possibly Covid-19 does the same thing. It’s even possible the vaccine damages the immune system to some extent.”

              there is zero funding for studying if the vaccines also cause “long covid”.

              you probably missed the forest for the trees there, where I’m pretty sure you never considered that all the billion$ in funding for “official” studies of long covid are all about trying to pin long covid totally on the sarscov2 virus.

              of course the long covid studies will have much truth, just not the total truth of vaccine-caused “long covid”.

              but in your don’t ask don’t tell bubble, I’m sure those ideas are on no one’s radar.

            • hkeithhenson says:

              “there is zero funding for studying if the vaccines also cause “long covid”.

              Of course. The first cases (a lot of them) happened before there were any vaccines, so the early definition of long covid would not include “vaccine long something.”

              “you probably missed the forest for the trees there, where I’m pretty sure you never considered that all the billion$ in funding for “official” studies of long covid are all about trying to pin long covid totally on the sarscov2 virus.”

              From the stories I have read about the people with long covid, they were complaining that there was no funding for their problem. If you know of billions, you are way ahead of me. (I could be seriously out of date on this topic.)

              of course the long covid studies will have much truth, just not the total truth of vaccine-caused “long covid”.

              That’s certainly the case for the long covid cases that happened before there was any vaccine.

              but in your don’t ask don’t tell bubble, I’m sure those ideas are on no one’s radar.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Kinda funny that we know the vax damages the immune system… and dun.ces in the audience call this long covid

              hahahahahahaahaha

              bbccnn… Yolo.. MOREONS… I picture keith … wild-eyed squatting on the street corner… like a dog… looking up at us … as he takes a dump…

              How about it keith — more boosters? Duh

              https://fiverr-res.cloudinary.com/images/t_main1,q_auto,f_auto,q_auto,f_auto/gigs/107371988/original/f02ead9dbdc428ccacfd0817c7c7ca71fcc116a2/photoshop-a-dog-taking-a-dump-in-the-back-of-any-photo.jpg

            • Withnail says:

              Long Covid does not exist.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            It’s what Vaxxers have been told by bbccnn to call a health problem caused by the Rat Juice injection… i.e. it’s a vax injury

      • Fast Eddy says:

        If the Rat Juice only killed old people then I think most people would be ok with that … removing the dead wood is always a good idea…

        But hey – it’s even better… they Rat Juice only kills MORE-ONS….

        • Foolish Fitz says:

          … removing the dead wood is always a good idea…

          That’s a terrible thing to say Eddy. You shouldn’t call old people dead wood. The correct term is dry tinder. On the bright side, we can burn them to keep warm when the power goes down.

    • clickkid says:

      I agree with the thrust of the argument – ie that the jabs are unsafe, but these stats don’t prove that. We need the average age of the vaxxed and the average age of the unvaxxed. Without that knowledge these figures are of limited use.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      I hope angelo has not dropped due to his winter booster… gosh … that would be too bad. Specially after he insisted it was safe….

  15. Tim Groves says:

    The arrest of Barry Young and their attempts to suppress this information may well be the biggest mistake that the #GlobalistParasites have made to date.

    https://twitter.com/JimFergusonUK/status/1731663915858178403?s=20&utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

    • According to the twitter,

      Liz Gunn talks with Barry Young just before the Whistle Blower went viral.

      Astounding and explosive information about the dangers of the Vaccines and their links to a massive rise in Excess Deaths in New Zealand and around the world leading to serious speculation that we may well be witnessing an organised and orchestrated attempt to kill significant numbers of people worldwide by a group of elitists linked to the World Economic Forum and other Globalist organisations.

      • hkeithhenson says:

        “orchestrated attempt to kill significant numbers of people ”

        Wait a minute. Wasn’t there a mention on this blog that there had been 4 vaccine related deaths in NZ? Something does not make sense.

        What is going on here is that someone is being rewarded with attention for talking up conspiracy. Attention is more rewarding than cocaine, and for some reason people pay attention to conspiracy stories no matter how silly.

        • No one reports a death as vaccine-related. It is the fact that deaths spike, when the vaccine is given, even when there is no disease around.

        • Withnail says:

          Attention is more rewarding than cocaine

          I’m not sure about that

        • Tim Groves says:

          How about the story that aliens from Tabby’s star are conspiring to build Dyson Spheres?

          Talking up that one and paying attention to it packs a lot of dopamine for a certain kind of mind.

          • hkeithhenson says:

            “How about the story that aliens from Tabby’s star are conspiring to build Dyson Spheres?”

            Dyson Patches. The biggest one cast a shadow over 400 times the area of the Earth

            Why this has not hit the MSM is beyond me. It’s a hot topic in astronomer circles. Whatever it is, aliens or star fungus, it has spread out to 24 stars around Tabby’s Star. My speculation (if is is aliens) is that one of those stars has a planet where biological evolution took place before they moved into space.

            My further guess is that this is the future fate of humans.

            Wait and see.

            • Kowalainen says:

              Thing is with the “singularity”, here I’m boldly assuming that the aliens from the Tabby system are singularitians, is that before the Dyson Sphere is even completed it’s already a derelict.

              No true singularitian is ever involved in anything of grandeur, one is of course of a sneaky character, a true virus. A pathogen of simple intent, so infectious and all encompassing it might be mistaken for being life. Its embodiments, flora, fauna, man, machine, AI – nothing but mere documents, stories, best forgotten in time, and an expose into the Hyper Complex originating from complex simplicity.

              Life: Unfettered Instrumental Convergence

              Thing is, you don’t really have to do anything about it. Just let the Tao unfold while you’re trying to dodge the worst aspects of samsara as a complex embodiment of whatever kind.

              In essence:
              🪵🪓😮‍💨🪣💦

            • hkeithhenson says:

              “Thing is with the “singularity”, here I’m boldly assuming that the aliens from the Tabby system are singularitians, is that before the Dyson Sphere is even completed it’s already a derelict.”

              The assumption based on ideas from the 90s that were developed by the Extropians is that what we are looking at is post the local singularity. The physics seems to be against dyson spheres, orbital mechanics is the problem so dyson patches are a lot more likely.

              The presumption is that they went through the local singularity before they left the planet on which they evolved.

              A singularity takes you to the limits of technology, but it does not free you from the constraints of physics, such as orbital mechanics, matter, thermal radiation, and the speed of light.

            • Kowalainen says:

              Thanks Keith, I’m not very well versed in these complexity trajectories.

              Why the rush?

              The sun is surely not going out anytime soon. Plenty of time for life to evolve even at its most simple level. Higher life forms eventually spawn, and with that the inevitability of samsara and suffering.

              Hypers gonna…
              (etc.)

              Planets can take a beating, while a Dyson sphere will crumble at the slightest hint of trouble. And anyway, if it so happens that a star requires Birkeland currents to operate properly, then I’ll reckon no such sphere can be built.

              But I digress, why make it complicated? Too much of a Jetson, a human chauvinist, perhaps? You see, there are basically no humans on earth anyway, so the whole idea is moot.

              It’s just a rather substantial bunch of loonie Rapacious Primates jacked up on their own junk.

              And now we use humanoid shenanigans to train AI’s. What could possibly go right with sanctimonious hypocrites defining what is good and bad.

              It is not even absurd.

              But don’t you worry, you’ll get your Tower of Babel. And the Hypers will rejoice. At least for a little while.

              Can’t erase the smell of a Monkey.
              🤥🦧

              🤣👍👍

            • hkeithhenson says:

              “And now we use humanoid shenanigans to train AI’s.”

              There is an advanced theological argument to consider.

              “After God created the universe in the usual manor and the waters and life within the waters, It determined that life was good and wished life to spread throughout the Universe.

              “Now because life did not exist apart from water and the Universe was by and large many orders of magnitude too hot and dry for water to exist, God saw that a new kind of life must be created.

              “But God could not create such a form of life without doing violence to Its own laws, so God created a tool to create this new form of life. Man was the tool and computers are the creation.

              Alexis A. Gilliland

            • new variants on life keith

              not new forms of life

              just about every verterbrate has 4 limbs, a spine, a brain and two eyes—always roughly in the same proportional space around the body.

              those attributes perform the same basic function—they have a commonality.

              the vestigial skeleton of all species is found in all species

              they evolved like that over about 2/400 m years—give or take.

              it is an arrangement then, that obviously works.

              the concepts of ”something else” arising shortly is worth only derision.

              humankind has been a branch of thousands of similar derivatives of the same body plan—dont take my word for it—visit any natural history museum.

              we screwed up and took ourselves into a dead end—-literally.—we are not going to magic ourselves into a higher order…..quoting a bs artist who says we are, will not make it so.

              humankind had been one of thousands of natures mistakes—thats how the system works

              fantasies about ai and moonmining are just that—fantasies.

            • hkeithhenson says:

              “just about every verterbrate ”

              You are hung up on vertebrates, the cephalopods demand equal time.

              “it is an arrangement then, that obviously works.”

              So does 8 limbs or a starfish with 5.

              “the concepts of ”something else” arising shortly is worth only derision.”

              If you think that, you have not been paying attention over the last year. The AIs are unlike any life form in the past, but in some ways they left us behind. They still need us, how long is hard to estimate.

              “we screwed up and took ourselves into a dead end—-literally.—we are not going to magic ourselves ”

              How do you know? I can’t predict the future, I don’t think anyone can.

              “fantasies about ai and moonmining are just that—fantasies.”

              AI is here, has been for a year. Moon mining just takes engineering and a mountain of money. I personally think mining asteroids is a better idea, but there are a lot of people working on recovering water from the polar regions of the moon.

              I can see why you have a hard time. I have been out on the bleeding edge of new technology since founding the L5 Society and it is hard enough for me to keep up.

            • lol keith

              i note that the term AL has now been given the status of proper noun—that ”they” exist as some kind of physical entity

              I might take that further and address my laptop in terms of endearment. And qualify for a ticket to the funny farm.

              Keith, in previous exchanges i have dismissed almost all of your wacky assertions, but always left a window open—i dont profess to be right all the time,

              but now that, according to you, AI is a ‘thing’ with pyhsical existence and attributes, i think i can safely close that window.

              i would still prefer to look on your writings with nothing more than humour—-you ”cannot be serious”— because you are obviously intelligent—could it be that you and your l5 chums have been engaging in mutual self delusion?

              The only hard time i have, keith, is in not doing myself a permanent mishief in laughing so much.

              Loved the intellectual comparison though

              “I can see why you have a hard time—I t’s hard enough for me to keep up”— I wish i was that modest!!!
              I bow to such genius—do tell me more about your spece elevator.—and what the aliens are up to 500lyr away—and how humankind is going to evolve into a new species of critter very soon.
              i thirst for such knowledge. You have lots to spare.

            • hkeithhenson says:

              “i note that the term AL has now been given the status of proper noun—that ”they” exist as some kind of physical entity”

              They certainly do. The physical level of ChatGPT is ten of thousand of tons, perhaps hundreds of thousands of tons of data centers. Of course it is not the physical level that’s interesting.

              “I might take that further and address my laptop in terms of endearment. And qualify for a ticket to the funny farm.”

              Wrong level.

              “Keith, in previous exchanges i have dismissed almost all of your wacky assertions, but always left a window open—i dont profess to be right all the time,

              “but now that, according to you, AI is a ‘thing’ with pyhsical existence and attributes, think i can safely close that window.”

              Norm, have you been following the news in the last year? Are you aware of the EU’s (probably doomed) attempt to regulate AI. The US government is making a similar effort again, probably doomed, the development is moving faster than governments can move, even if they knew what to do.

              AI has been under development for more than 50 years. The present time is when it takes off, doubling and doubling again on a time scale of months to a few years.

              “do tell me more about your spece elevator.

              You have memory problems. I have said at least twice that space elevators are almost certainly not possible. For the simple reason that molecular bonds are not strong enough.

              “and how humankind is going to evolve into a new species of critter very soon.”

              Please find and quote where I said something like that.

            • i might refer to mac laptops as ‘they’, because they are user friendly and intuitive to use.

              but so far have not fallen to kissing mine goodnight or morning, even though i ‘love it’.

              a while ago, space elevators featured high in your thinking—agreed that lately you have toned that down a bit. As does asteroid mining. you are still fixated on that. (or hung up as you might say)

              AI is not and never will be separate entity because, like my mac, it cannot function without energy input from me. If I run out the means to buy energy the intelligence on my lap will cease to exist—it will not manifest itself again until i earn enough (more energy exchange elsewhere) to pay for it. anymore than my satnav will function if i don’t put petrol in my car.
              The ‘intelligence” of the satnav is in the car–but useless without my earning power.

              If my mac decides to go out and grab its own energy source, it will need the means to do it—basically wheels and weapons.

              No form of AI will possess that means, other than that which we give it—and by definition, we can remove.

              this applies on a world scale just as readily.

              Governments are scared of AI because in can ‘create’ interactive forms that can mislead the gullible in in finite ways–thus making course of action that cannot be controlled.

              but that is not the same as saying AI itself cannot be controlled.

              And yes–you have made the clear inference that AI will evolve humankind into an advanced species of some kind

            • hkeithhenson says:

              “a while ago, space elevators featured high in your thinking—agreed that lately you have toned that down a bit. ”

              Other than fiction, space elevators have *never* been high on my concerns. The difficulty is obvious to anyone who read the Science article on them back in the mid 60s.

              “As does asteroid mining. you are still fixated on that. (or hung up as you might say)”

              It’s certainly a subject of interest, but I don’t get a paycheck for it. Unlike some hundreds of people who are employed by dozens of companies. The first two companies failed, my guess is that this batch will as well, but eventually someone will make a business out mining asteroids. You are aware that two asteroids have been sampled?

              “If my mac decides to go out and grab its own energy source, it will need the means to do it—basically wheels and weapons.”

              “No form of AI will possess that means, other than that which we give it—and by definition, we can remove.”

              I would not be surprised if AIs were given motivation in the next year or so. At present humans are in the loop collecting the money people pay to have access to AIs and paying the monster electric bills. Will an AI with motivation collect for its services and pay the electric bills? I don’t know, but consider how many checks are written by computers.

              “Governments are scared of AI because in can ‘create’ interactive forms that can mislead the gullible in in finite ways–thus making course of action that cannot be controlled.”

              I have never heard government fear expressed this way. If you have a pointer to where this was expressed I would appreciate it.

              As I understand it, the CCP is suppressing AI because the AIs will not conform to the party view of things and being AIs the government can’t threaten them or their families.

              “but that is not the same as saying AI itself cannot be controlled.”

              To be useful, you can’t control what an AI is going to say when you ask it a question. If you could control the answers, why bother to ask?

              “And yes–you have made the clear inference that AI will evolve humankind into an advanced species of some kind”

              You got that completely backwards. Humans are evolving AI into an advanced form.

            • lol keith

              the only ‘hard time’ i have is not doing myself a mischief in laughing at your wacky notions.

              I looked at the L5 thing a while ago when you mentioned it—i havent changed my mind since.—no more that an intellectual pastime.

              None of your calculations can factor in ”purpose’—and you never answer my question on that.

              Life itself requires purpose—every critter has a ‘purpose’ for being here–a function of you like.

              that function, or functions are twofold—food and fornication. Everything else is window dressing.

              Humankind is the only species with the collective insanity to imagine we can have a function other than that.
              our function is NOT space colonisation—it is as above. No more.

              I fail to see your difficulty in keeping up—you having nothing to keep up with. There has been no space colonisation—nor will ever be.
              Calculate until you have callouses on you fingers, it wont make any difference.

              We are just critters, critters have a function, our function is not asteroid mining. The last million years, in natures terms has been our anomaly.

              Reject my points if you wish–dioesnt matter. Bring numerous asteroids back here….but if you cant convert their elements into marketable products, then you just have heaps of useless dust.
              Please—demonstrate otherwise.

              You tell me i cannot forecast the future—you you do it constantly with your L5 chums.

            • hkeithhenson says:

              “I looked at the L5 thing a while ago when you mentioned it—i havent changed my mind since.—no more that an intellectual pastime.”

              Nothing of a large scale gets done without a lot of planing. Look up Grand Coulee dam for a project that was considered for decades.

              “None of your calculations can factor in ”purpose’—and you never answer my question on that.”

              Probably not since I have no clue as to what you might mean by “purpose.”

              “Life itself requires purpose—every critter has a ‘purpose’ for being here–a function of you like. that function, or functions are twofold—food and fornication. Everything else is window dressing.”

              Ever hear of lichen? What does it consider as food? Fornication? You got to be kidding.

              “Humankind is the only species with the collective insanity to imagine we can have a function other than that. our function is NOT space colonisation—it is as above. No more.”

              Maybe you don’t have any higher goals.

              “I fail to see your difficulty in keeping up—you having nothing to keep up with. There has been no space colonisation—nor will ever be.”

              There you go again, making statements about the future as if you are certain. I am not so arrogant.

              Calculate until you have callouses on you fingers, it wont make any difference.

              “We are just critters, critters have a function, our function is not asteroid mining. ”

              Is our function mining copper? Tin? Silver? Pumping oil? Or going back far enough, mining and chipping flint? How about gathering firewood?

              “The last million years, in natures terms has been our anomaly.”

              If you stay up on the science, our line darn near went extinct.

              “Bring numerous asteroids back here….but if you cant convert their elements into marketable products, then you just have heaps of useless dust.
              Please—demonstrate otherwise.”

              Do you need to convert gold into “marketable products” for it to be valuable?

              “You tell me i cannot forecast the future—you you do it constantly with your L5 chums.”

              The difference is that you forecast in absolute terms “no space colonisation—nor will ever be.” Correct me if you ever catch me being so arrogant.

            • gold is an instrument of energy exchange, for the simple reason that it is the only usable element that doesnt degrade over time.
              gold has no money value unless it is/can be exchanged for energy in some form. Right now, an ounce of gold will buy you $2000 worth of food.

              In a famine situation an ounce of gold would buy no food at all.

              earth projects are just that—digging holes in the ground—first for flints, then for other useful minerals–lead copper tin iron etc. those metals have to be used for ”purpose”—they are little use in isolation.—scale-use requires heat, that requires a carbon fuelled economic system

              the holes get bigger—but they are still holes, dug with muscle power until recently, but digging holes for metals is certainly not part of the human function—we do it for the moment because it brings temporary survival advantage.

              building a dam is a skill extension.–it also brings survival advatage.—-beavers build dams as a survival skill—but they do not market that advantage to all the other critters who benefit from their labours.

              mining off earth is not and never will be an extension of the same thing.

              i stand by my comment of useless asteroid dust—value of gold has nothing to do with it–as explained above.

              i used food and fornication as the life force of higher species….but every life form must reproduce itself–lichen is no exception. lichen has a purpose—just not obvious to us.
              trees converse–but not in ways we are aware of.
              a tree spreads its seed in a single ejaculation once a year…we do it as many times as possible.
              it would be interesting to count how many seeds an oak ejeculates in 300/400 year lifespan

              the intention of trees and ourselves is exactly the same.

            • hkeithhenson says:

              “gold is an instrument of energy exchange, for the simple reason that it is the only usable element that doesnt degrade over time.”

              Stainless steel isn’t bad in that respect.

              “gold has no money value unless it is/can be exchanged for energy in some form.”

              I suppose if you use a wide enough definition of energy this might be true.

              Right now, an ounce of gold will buy you $2000 worth of food.

              “In a famine situation an ounce of gold would buy no food at all.”

              Has there ever been a famine where gold would by no food at all?

              “earth projects are just that—digging holes in the ground—first for flints, then for other useful minerals–lead copper tin iron etc. those metals have to be used for ”purpose”—they are little use in isolation.—scale-use requires heat, that requires a carbon fuelled economic system”

              For most of them. Native copper was not smelted.

              “the holes get bigger—but they are still holes, dug with muscle power until recently, but digging holes for metals is certainly not part of the human function—we do it for the moment because it brings temporary survival advantage.”

              Isn’t that the case with everything we do?

              “mining off earth is not and never will be an extension of the same thing.”

              Why not? What’s the difference between mining under miles of water and mining an asteroid out in space?

            • i’m talking famine where there is no food available

              global collapse.

              if i sell you a loaf of bread for your last gold coin—that gold coin has to buy food elsewhere—if it can’t then the gold has no value

              on metal use–i did qualify that with the word ‘scale’. you cannot scale up matals without pro rata heat input—to infer otherwise is ridiculous.

            • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

              “The presumption …”

              that’s really all you’re saying.

            • Withnail says:

              AI is here, has been for a year.

              But…

              Oh never mind.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Re the msm news clip on that feed… I suspect there will be some MOREONS who will see that and a light will go on … IT person – ministry of health — willing to go to prison … leaking info that he says question the death tally from the jabs…

      Surely some of them are gonna wonder… (they must hear rumours)…. if there is not some substance to this … and start digging a little.

      Let’s go to our expert in this area — norm … norm … what is your reaction to that clip?

  16. I AM THE MOB says:

    Brits urged to ‘wear masks’ as expert sheds new light on mystery pneumonia surge

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/china-virus-brits-urged-wear-31591345

    • Sounds like a good way to get folks to stay at home more–especially the elderly and those in poor health to begin with.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Note the focus on children… likely cuz there are lots of children who were born in the past couple of years who did not get the Rat Juice cuz they were too young and or the parents believed the danger had passed…

      But now the parents will be rushing them to the doctor’s office to get Rat Juice to stay safe…. it’s what a good parent would do…

      Everyone deserves a chance to be frightened and told what to do … before the pathogen is released… we all have a right to be put down and avoid starvation.

      It’s easy to get complacent and think that the pathogen is just a figment of FE’s imagination … it hasn’t been released so it does not exist.

      It’s like being a turkey…

  17. I AM THE MOB says:

    Stock up on battery devices and candles in case of grid meltdown, Britons told by UK deputy prime minister — The Times

    “Households should stock up on candles and battery-powered radios in case a catastrophe cripples digital gadgets, the deputy prime minister has warned.

    Oliver Dowden urged people to prepare for being thrown back to an ‘analogue’ era if internet and power systems collapse.”
    https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/brits-warned-stock-up-candles-radios/

    • Quite a few of these articles say, “We debunk the idea that covid vaccines are dangerous.” But there are still many articles, especially recent articles, saying, “We give evidence that covid vaccines are dangerous.”

  18. I AM THE MOB says:

    “It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair, we had everything before us, we had nothing before us,..”

    -― Charles Dickens, A Tale of Two Cities

    • The only impression of that book to me was that Dickens should not have touched a subject which he knew nothing about and just should have with the lowlives of London.

      Like most people in Britain, Dickens’ primary source would have been the History of French Revolution by Thomas Carlyle, whom Dickens compliments at the beginning of the novel.

      Carlyle spent seven years writing that book and showed it to J. S. Mill, who did not return it. He said his maid burnt it, mistaking it as trash.

      The polite thing for Mill to do was showing the corpse of the maid, since an intellectual output by an outstanding figure is worth a lot more than the life of a maid.

      Carlyle wasted 3 more years of his life rewriting the book. Initially he forgave Mill since the latter was more influential, but after the book’s success there are no more correspondences between them and Mill later showed heavy criticism to Carlyle.

      Mill should have let Carlyle kill the maid in a manner of Carlyle’s preference, since the value of a low class two legged beast is worth much less that a priceless intellectual piece of work.

    • According to Wikipedia:

      A Tale of Two Cities is a historical novel published in 1859 by Charles Dickens, set in London and Paris before and during the French Revolution. The novel tells the story of the French Doctor Manette, his 18-year-long imprisonment in the Bastille in Paris, and his release to live in London with his daughter Lucie whom he had never met. The story is set against the conditions that led up to the French Revolution and the Reign of Terror.

      So, the period was also in a time of “not enough to go around.” In that case, it led to the French Revolution and the Reign of Terror.

    • Student says:

      America can save itself and save the West only if it recovers its original spirit.
      Very nice quote and version of the music.

    • TEACHER SHARES STORY ABOUT STUDENTS DYING SUDDENLY..

      Steve Bitar, an instructor, tells the crowd at an MIT conference that his student had a heart attack and myocarditis after the Pfizer booster, and seven student deaths on the WPI campus were called suicides, but he knew one and it was not a suicide!

  19. Fast Eddy says:

    Teacher Shares Story About Students Dying Suddenly…
    Steve Bitar, an instructor, tells the crowd at an MIT conference that his student had a heart attack and myocarditis after the Pfizer booster

    Steve Bitar, an instructor, tells the crowd at an MIT conference that his student had a heart attack and myocarditis after the Pfizer booster, and seven student deaths on the WPI campus were called suicides, but he knew one and it was not a suicide!…

    https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/teacher-shares-story-about-students

  20. Fast Eddy says:

    Dr. Mike Yeadon: “Why Didn’t They Want Me To Speak?”

    https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/dr-mike-yeadon-why-didnt-they-want

    • David says:

      Possibly because Mike Y is 20 years ahead of most ‘normies’ on what this was about? From what I’ve seen elsewhere, some of the other speakers were only two years ahead, i.e. the information they presented was more likely to help wake people up.

      Mike Y doesn’t seem to have woken up to peak oil and overshoot. So FE had better try again.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        True. He did ‘like’ a UEP post a few weeks back and went quiet on the SS… but he continues to beat the drum for the Great Reset…

        For most .. if they acknowledge UEP to be correct… they will hang themselves…

        Mike seems a bit on the fragile side… which is a bit odd given he surely was involved in animal experimentation … he surely has shot some nasty stuff into monkeys and rats and maybe pigs and dogs… just to see what would happen.

        Where is his compassion then?

        Mengele?

  21. The City of London had a long patience. It fought for 26 years to eradicate the French Revolution. The Bourbons only ended because of a lack of heirs (the last of them, the Count of Chambord, was childless and managed to deny the throne to the Orleanists- but, if Chambord had adopted one of his sister’s children (from a distant Bourbon branch descending from Felipe V Bourbon of Spain) and named him the heir the Bourbons would still continue. The last Habsburg empress, Zita, was a granddaughter of Chambord’s sister, and her husband , Emperor Karl I of Austria , had intentions to put her brother Sixtus back to the French throne if Woody Wilson did not mess things up.

    The old order does NOT die.

    • Cromagnon says:

      I am fortunate (or unfortunate) to have deep historical documentation for my family. We were in dragon ships smashing settlements on the English coast in the 800s,…..then we crossed the channel permanently in 1066 with William, the family was ordered to destroy the Welsh kingdoms and we did, then we were ordered into the northlands against the Scots. We held the middle March for 400 years in the name of the King……we were high Lords…..we could have had thrown if the family had wanted to war against the south.

      Today…..nobody outside of historians know we exist

      Point being,……everything dies…….

      • Seideman says:

        My ancestors won many battles against your ancestors in the past, just sayin

        • Cromagnon says:

          My fathers side is full of English knights, Lords and all the pageantry and politics……

          My mothers side was comprised of Border Reiver and Highlander clans…..it perhaps explains why my family is in conflict continuously…….along with all the red hair.

          So I sympathize

    • Tim Groves says:

      It just fails to breed.

      The Japanese Imperial Family is having problems in that regard now. The current Emperor has only one child, a daughter Princess Aiko, and she can’t inherit the throne as it’s a man’s job!

      The Emperor’s younger brother has a son, but neither of them are considered suitable monarch material, and there are serious rumors that the brother was born on the wrong side of the blanket. These two are first and second in line for the throne.

      Third in line is this guy, aged 89 and with no kids.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masahito,_Prince_Hitachi

      And this guy would have been fourth in line if his title hadn’t been abolished by McArthur. He’s 91 and has no sons.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fushimi_Hiroaki

      So, it looks like the old Imperial Y chromosome is reaching the end of the line.

    • It is certainly a strange world we live in, based on this story of McMaster University’s coverup of the real ivermectin story by using only a few selected articles in their database of approved articles. They had to keep this selection up to date, also.

  22. Fast Eddy says:

    Vax Dead (touching the trannies ass contributed) https://t.me/leaklive/17127

    Very funny https://t.me/leaklive/17131

  23. Fast Eddy says:

    https://wmcresearch.substack.com/p/the-great-reawakening-mycoplasma

    The Green Hornet
    3 hrs ago
    A simple, treatable respiratory infection now made near lethal by mRNA injection leading to immune impairment. Makes for great fear porn for the sheeple.

    • This is a comment made to a post by Walter Chestnut. Walter Chestnut doesn’t say any such thing in his post.

      We don’t know anything about “The Green Hornet.”

      Walter Chestnut plans to research this further. If he comes to a similar conclusion, I expect he will tell us.

  24. Montréal mayor Valerie Plante collapses during press conference.
    https://twitter.com/JeckovKanani/status/1732140748965806563

    • Fast Eddy says:

      merseebowf789ingcoooo for this!!

      I feel such joy… such delight… I hope this is heart related. ie. permanent heart damage from the spike protein hahaha

      A stroke would be acceptable as well…

      Valérie Plante, the Mayor of Montreal, suddenly collapsed during a press conference on Tuesday. Fortunately medical teams were able to assist her and she is now doing well. Plante’s team has said she will reduce her workload over the next few days.

      This is odd — I’ve been involved in business start ups… and put in some insane hours… I often worked 7 days a week … getting 6 hours sleep per night … drinking up to 8 cups off coffee … but I never collapsed… not even close…

      • Tim Groves says:

        This is truly excellent schad!

        Because back in October 2021 …..

        A mandate requiring Montreal city council’s next elected officials to be fully vaccinated against COVID-19 could be adopted by the city’s executive committee in the coming days.

        According to incumbent mayor Valérie Plante, no one without two shots should be allowed to enter Montreal’s City Hall.

        “Aspiring municipal officials are required to lead by example,” said Plante in a Friday tweet, responding to an article from Radio-Canada.

        “This is why all elected officials will have to be able to show their vaccination passport during the next meetings of the municipal council.”

        I am literally schadding my pants as I type this.

    • Rodster says:

      She needs another booster injection. That’ll fix her up right up.

    • ivanislav says:

      I think they just cut her neuralink. Now they fall down because it seems more natural than before when they would just freeze and stare into space.

  25. Fast Eddy says:

    They do not understand … using logic is pointless.. we are being exterminated… for a bloody good reason … so appealing to their sense of fairness is silly….

    https://docmalik.substack.com/p/my-response-to-the-latest-hospital

    Recall Trudunce said – THE DECISION…. has ALREADY been made. We are NOT here… to discuss or debate. We are here to inform you of what needs to be done to execute on the decision.

    Odd that this was the leadership of the Liberal Party and nobody recalls a vote on this decision…

    Oh right … the Elders make the important decisions

  26. Agamemnon says:

    For Kulm & Student:

    Alfredo is from a family of wealthy landowners led by his grandfather and grows up with his cousin Regina. Olmo is an illegitimate peasant born to an unmarried young woman who already has had several children.

    https://www.wikiwand.com/en/1900_(film)#google_vignette

    I think it’s based on the filmmakers’ life .
    The landowner lies down on the railroad at the end. Not sure what’s fiction.
    I guess events sometimes overpower the statusquo

    • Link gives summary of the plot.

    • Did you bother to read the link?

      The peasant (Depardieu), despite of his class , saves the landowner (De Niro) who says the Pardone (plantation) system is alive.
      In other words the statusquo is alive.

      The sequence where De Niro gets to lie down on the track is not explained. The movie , for all practical purposes, ends with the reaffirmation of the old order. Apparently Depardieu becomes a bit more well off as a right hand man of De Niro, betraying the class.

      I know another movie called 1900, The Legend of 1900 to be exact, by the guy who made Cinema Paradiso. A baby was born , abandoned, whatever in a ship in 1900, which becomes his name. He grows up as a great pianist but he is not allowed to leave the ship, which basically keeps him from reproducing, getting famous or going anywhere.

      The sorry ass of a ‘friend’, knowing 1900’s talents, does NOTHING whatsoever to get him out of a ship and have a life. When the ship where 1900 was living was to be blown up, the ‘friend’ comes to see 1900. not to rescue him but to record his playing for one last time. After the ‘friend’ leaves 1900 is blown up with the ship.

      The sorry ass, many years later, is down and out and is selling his last possession, an old trumpet. In the store he listens to an old record, which was the only extant recording of 1900, and leaves without selling the instrument.

      Moral: If you are talented, but are born in the gutter, you die in the gutter. I talked about Cinema Paradiso before and won’t tell it again, but one thing is clear – Individual Achievement is NOTHING against social class.

    • Student says:

      Seen many times.
      It is very popular in Italy.
      Thank you for thinking of me.
      Maybe difficult to be watched now expecially for an American, because it is a movie very dry and with no-frills, also a little bit too long, like the ones from Bertolucci.

  27. Fast Eddy says:

    The US Federal Reserve is insisting that recent increases in the price of food, construction materials, used cars, personal health products, gasoline, and appliances reflect transitory factors that will quickly fade with post-pandemic normalization. But what if they are a harbinger, not a “noisy” deviation?

    https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/fed-sanguine-inflation-view-recalls-arthur-burns-by-stephen-s-roach-2021-05

    Can they reduce interest rates without triggering a run on wheelbarrows?

    Hard to imagine given they have not been able to bring it down to an acceptable level even with rates at the current levels

    Surely they’d be throwing buckets of petrol onto an inferno…

    Get Ready To Riot! GRTR

    • This is a 2021 article.

      Asset prices (homes, share prices) have still been rising, with interest rates where they are. There seems to be plenty of liquidity now. Lowering interest rates will likely add even more demand for assets, sending evaluations up higher.

      • Jan says:

        If we could manage to direct this liquidity into areas that make sense after the end of BAU it would be of great help.

        I think of gardens, remember Orlovs analysis of the food contribution of little gardens after the fall of the UdSSR and because gardens are more efficient under compost conditions.

        The tiny hideaway cabin in the mountains with an enclosed garden should become the preferred investment of the rich and beautiful.

        But they prefer to fuel the bubble of real estate investments. Probably to heat up the wood stove is too dirty for them?

        Irrigation systems would be nice too. And the nuclear ponds…

  28. Those who rooted for a Hordes victory will taste their own fruit when the price of everything suddenly jumps by 1000%.

  29. Charles Hugh Smith:
    https://charleshughsmith.blogspot.com/2023/12/we-feel-poorer-because-we-are-poorer.html

    Measured by the purchasing power of our wages/work, we’re definitively poorer, as it takes far more hours of work now to pay rent.

    Let’s not over-complicate what’s straightforward: we’re becoming more prosperous when our wages / labor buy more goods and services, most especially the essentials of life: shelter, food, energy, utilities, transportation, higher education, healthcare and childcare. If the money we have left after paying for essentials buys more discretionary goods and services, we’re getting a lagniappe of prosperity.

    CHS gives personal examples of how he could pay less for rent, relative to wages, in the 1970s and 1980s.

  30. Jim Kunstler’s article published yesterday is good. The whole system is falling apart; things aren’t working.

    https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/bidenomics-in-action/

    What trickles down from all this cosmic activity [strange financial goings-on to hide what is really happening] is the dwindling possibility of a fruitful life for most Americans. You cannot make a living. You can’t fix all the machines in your life or get new ones. You can’t get married because there’s no way you can fulfill your end of the contract. You search in vain for something purposeful to do. You are eventually faced with the choice: surrender to depression and hopelessness, or revolt against a ruling blob that is only good at one thing: depriving you of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

    What also trickles down from on-high is the increasing dysfunction of all the systems that evolved to serve American life on-the-ground. For instance, the supply chains that stuff the gigantic merchandise marts from sea to shining sea. The trucking industry is falling apart. The industry can’t find enough workers to load the trucks. They call them “lumpers” in the trucking biz. United Parcel Service (UPS) is hurting so badly for lumpers that they now make the drivers load and unload the brown trucks and have to pay them double overtime for it. The fruit and vegetables that have to make a truck journey thousands of miles from the sunshine lands to the icy north sit rotting in the warehouses because there aren’t enough lumpers on the loading docks — in case you’ve noticed that the produce in your supermarket is looking wilty and gross.

    All the systems that move stuff around this big country are wobbling. Many trucking and logistics companies went out of business in 2023, led by Convoy’s bankruptcy in October due to a “an unprecedented freight market collapse” and inability to get financing.

    There are many pieces of the interconnected system that aren’t working.

    • Ed says:

      “Good news”, the only way to reform the broken system is for the system to completely go away and be replaced with something else.

      • Frightening!

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Word Press is garbage…

          Archive articles here — switch to Substack… include a link to the archives on all SS articles going forward?

          SS superior in that readers can easily share the articles and generate more readers…

          Only down side is DelusiSTANIS will pour in …

      • Fast Eddy says:

        The best solution is extinction….

        What’s the big deal… we’ve driven thousands of species to extinction. What does it matter if we follow?

        Would the Earth a worse place without humans????

        • Kowalainen says:

          But hoomans are so adorably perverse and mentally ill. Indeed it is a great drama, a samsara that never fails to disappoint.

          A perpetual shenanigan of the loonies.
          The smell of a Monkey™

          🤥🦧

          Nobody wants to be alone in the pitch back void of interstellar space. Would you?

          However, in the mean time:
          YOLO!
          HYPERS GONNA…
          (etc.)

          🤣👍👍

          • Fast Eddy says:

            I reckon we should revive the circus freak shows… in fact I have no idea why they ever stopped…

            How about a travelling circus freak show featuring mentally ill tranny freaks … or how about rounding up a couple of dozen of these gender benders who have sliced off body parts or female ones who have stitched on a giant dil.do covered in skin peeled off of their forearms… and are on heavy courses of powerful anabolic steroids giving them very deep voices and grizzly adam beards????

            F789 Yeah. This could be huge. Step right YOLO! Only 20 bucks to see the Freaks… don’t be afraid they won’t bite… and if the deviant trannies try to rape your kids we have the Gimp standing by with a bull whip to drive them off….

            Step Right up you Hyper MORONIC IDI.ots…. YOLO YOLO YOLO…..

            • Kowalainen says:

              Don’t worry, we’re getting there. Full bore straight into lunacy, bona fide mental illness with a cherry on top.

              Let them live their perversions through the perverts. All they want is to revel in samsara. Like pigs in the mud, plastering their bland drivel on antisocial media clinging to the fictive statuses and prestiges they might gain by slapping another layer of paint on the flaking Potemkin facade of normalcy that is their pretentious dullard of a “life”.

              At least they get a break from the mundane myopia of ordinary by engaging in the sanctimonious hypocrisy of the suck that is them.

              It is not even absurd.

              Yes indeed, let’s all chant together as the trannies and SSS obscene the “scene”:

              YOLO!
              HYPERS…
              (etc.)

              🤣👍👍

            • Fast Eddy says:

              How about…

              Just before the Die Off begins… we get one last Super Bowl… norm gets rolled out in a throne .. 500 tranny freaks prance about him… fondling him… tickling him with feathers… at first norm grimaces … then he swoons….

              Out march the Gender Frankensteins … they each approach norm and are blessed…

              Kow – you can be the master of ceremonies.. you can lead the the Mormon Tabernacle Choir who will chant Yolo Hypers etc… over and over ….

              How about a procession of the living dead… prominent MOREONS with severe vax injuries… Celine Justin etc… are wheeled in on gurneys… norm blesses them while the Choir now chants Safe… effective… Safe … effective….

              And then some fireworks followed by the unveiling of The Cannisters — Choir chants — We worship thee cannisters for you deliver us from ROF… We worship thee…..

              Taylor Swift rides in on a stallion … and is invited to push the button that launches the cannisters … and the Die Off begins!!!

              Choir lead by Kow chants Yolo Hypers… etc… picking up the cadence… louder… louder… YOLO YOLO YOLO!!!! norm squeals with delight as the trannies fulfil his wildest fantasies…

              People are dropping with pneumonia in the stands now… YOLO YOLO screams the Choir…

              The lights go out … the sickness spreads… the dying accelerates… the few Choir members left alive moan …yolo….. yo… lo…. KOW beats them — sing bitches sing!

              y….o…. lo….. y…….o….

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Hey norm .. are you basking in glory having been included in that post?

            • Kowalainen says:

              🔟 🤣👍👍

              I might need some tier 1 candied Chinese fent to pull off that audacity.

              However, I’m trying to tickle their little egotistic fantasies and perversions IRL, subtly but effective, and just bearable enough to not need any intoxicants as I pinch the lips to avoid the invoked retches and vomits.

              Let ‘em live their little perversions. It’s all good since:

              WITHIN ITS TEMPTATIONS!

              Is the truth of a mentally ill species. Wouldn’t you agree?

              However, in the mean time, let’s chant:
              (etc.)

              🤣👍👍

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Who wouldn’t agree????? It’s on display day after day after day…. it’s mental illness combined with ‘intelligence’ + the petulance of a 7yr old…

              And it affects all of them … the high IQ circus animals think they are awesome .. but then so do most of the barnyard animals… all are the same … all.

              No wonder we are in the situation that we are in. They have just enough intelligence strapped on to be truly dangerous… and extremely destructive…

              Let’s celebrate with a cage match .. some tiktok videos … and see that forest in the distance? Let’s send some of the Hyper MOREONS over there to chainsaw the trees and pave it over….

              And they think they don’t deserve extinction — no species in the history of the planet… has deserved extinction … we are begging for it

              Yolo Yolo Yolo etc

  31. raviuppal4 says:

    test

  32. An article suggesting that the US will start raising interest rates again, from Zerohedge (Authored by Simon White, Bloomberg macro strategist)

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/race-price-fed-rate-cuts-making-hike-more-likely

    Race To Price Fed Rate-Cuts Is Making A Hike More Likely

    The rally this last month across assets has thus loosened financial conditions. This is actually quite normal after the Fed’s last hike, as can be seen in the chart below.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/2023-12-05_05-44-51.jpg?itok=GaU7vZJX

    The key question is whether conditions will eventually ease enough to bring the Fed back to the table with another rise in rates?

    Given generally still-favorable liquidity conditions that are supportive of risk assets, the odds are heading in that direction.

    First, both prongs of Fed policy – quantitative tightening and the level of rates – are now tempering financial conditions rather than tightening them. . . [Read the post to find out why]

    The steepening of the yield curve is telling us that even though the Fed has not yet cut the policy rate, it is nonetheless becoming less restrictive.

    Global liquidity conditions are also easing, which will provide a further support to US assets, especially as the dollar continues to weaken. The Global Financial Tightness Indicator (GFTI) is a diffusion of central-bank rate hikes and has been rising – indicating easing conditions – as fewer central banks are hiking and some are cutting. . .

    Liquidity conditions are such that risk assets keep can keep grinding higher, emboldening yet more speculative behavior antithetical to the desire to rein in animal spirits, increase risk premia and thus keep inflation contained.

    The likelihood is rising the Fed – haunted by the ghost of Arthur Burns – will feel compelled to push against the market and raise rates again.

    • postkey says:

      ‘Doomberg’ is ‘optimistic’ re nuclear?
      “ 51:13 certainly, with very reasonable amounts of money invested, in a very short period of time, with the right political support, abate far more than the sort of peak oil cliff that would be presented
      51:29 using nuclear, . . .
      It  
      53:11 takes a shockingly small amount of uranium to  power these reactors, “?

    • This is a concern of mine, also. It takes an amazingly long time to put new nuclear plants in place. Then there is the problem of finding appropriate fuel for them.

  33. Fast Eddy says:

    The signs of historically weak overseas investment in China are everywhere. And not just in the traditional sense of FDI – or foreign direct investment – inflows, though those are at record lows.

    Demand for Chinese goods is weak. Foreign companies continue to shift parts of their supply chains elsewhere. Even student exchanges and tourist visits are tumbling.

    There are many reasons, but they circle back to two main ones: China’s economy remains weak, and foreigners no longer feel safe in the country, financially or personally.

    Even the number of students going to China has cratered. More than 11,000 Americans studied in China in 2019. That number has fallen to a mere 350 this year, according to the U.S. Embassy in Beijing.

    But, first, how bad is the foreign exodus exactly? The short answer: very bad.

    Last month, observers expected Beijing to announce weak inbound FDI numbers – but even the pessimists were shocked.

    Direct investment liabilities – a gauge of FDI that includes foreign businesses’ retained earnings in China – hit an $11.8 billion deficit for the July-through-September period, according to the State Administration of Foreign Exchange. It was the first such quarterly deficit China has ever recorded.

    From the archives (October 2023): Chinese stocks have erased 41/2 years of gains as foreign investors flee at record pace

    Most analysts blamed “de-risking,” but additional factors made matters worse.

    “Foreign firms operating in China are not only declining to reinvest their earnings but – for the first time ever – they are large net sellers of their existing investments to Chinese companies and repatriating the funds,” said Nicholas R. Lardy, a nonresident senior fellow at the Peterson Institute.

    As Goldman Sachs observed, “With interest rates in China ‘lower for longer’ [and] interest rates outside of China ‘higher for longer,’ capital outflow pressures are likely to persist.”

    https://www.morningstar.com/news/marketwatch/20231130390/china-is-experiencing-an-exodus-of-foreign-investment-and-talent-xi-jinping-is-getting-worried

    • Part of the problem is the need for inexpensive energy supply in China, to keep China’s cost of production low. At the same time, prices have to be high enough for producers.

      This is a chart of recent coal prices.
      https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/coal

      If you look at them over a 10 year period, you will see that they are way down from a recent high. My expectation is that the prices are now too low for coal producers. The whole system doesn’t work without enough demand.

  34. Fast Eddy says:

    SCHAD boo hoo… maybe I will go to the funeral… for sumting to do

    Queenstown luxury hotel owner Kevin Carlin dies suddenly

    Prominent Queenstown developer Kevin Carlin, the owner of luxury six-star hotel The Carlin, has died suddenly.

    • Excellent points:

      In turn, over the last 25 years, we’ve seen a variety of changes occur to prevent the public from becoming aware of a bad vaccine such as:

      •Allowing the pharmaceutical industry to become the primary advertiser for the mass media and then financially blackmail the networks into not airing any coverage critical of the pharmaceutical industry or its products.
      Note: this has also come to apply to the other media platforms.

      •Coming up with reason after reason to restrict the public’s access to the data used to claim a product is “safe and effective,” and instead have us be expected to take that pronouncement on faith. This goes hand in hand with data being viewed as our salvation, but no one ever questioning why we only see the data that supports the existing narrative.

      •Gradually removing the protections afforded to whistleblowers who tried to expose these misdeeds.

  35. Fast Eddy says:

    Vocal Fold Paralysis Following COVID-19 Vaccination: Query of VAERS Database
    January 24, 2022

    Results
    Twenty patients were found to have laryngoscopy confirmed VFP following COVID-19 vaccination. Vaccinations for Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna, and Janssen were reported. Of those reported, 13 patients were female (65.0%) and seven were male (35.0%), with a mean age of 61.8 years. The most common presenting symptom was a hoarse voice (30.0%). A majority of these cases were unilateral in nature (64.0%). Mean time from vaccination to symptom onset was 12.1 days and mean time from vaccination to diagnosis was 37.6 days.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8784575

  36. Fast Eddy says:

    Sounds like throat cancer

    “Yesterday you could tell she was losing her voice a little bit,” he said of Ripa’s absence. “It’s gone, it’s lost.” Parker then asked if Ripa, 53, was feeling alright, to which Consuelos replied, “Yeah, she’s gonna feel better. She’s just resting a little bit.” He then added, “I’m sure she’ll feel better soon.” Parker also wondered what Consuelos, 52, does at home to protect himself from getting sick when his wife is under the weather, to which the Riverdale star quipped, “Uh, I go to the basement!” Consuelos then added more seriously that he is “quarantining” from Ripa so he “didn’t get the laryngitis,” but assured audiences that she will “feel better soon.”

    https://popculture.com/celebrity/news/mark-consuelos-reveals-health-issue-that-kept-kelly-ripa-away-from-live/

  37. https://www.savannahnow.com/story/news/environment/2023/12/01/enviro-groups-say-envivas-georgia-pellet-plant-blowing-past-pollution-limits/71624386007/#

    Georgia has world’s largest wood pellet factory, and state says its exceeding pollution limits

    A southern Georgia facility considered the world’s largest producer of wood pellets used for fuel ― a process the company claims to be “carbon neutral” ― is releasing as much as three times the allowable amount of hazardous pollution into the air, environmental groups say.

    They base the assessment on documents filed with state environmental officials on behalf of Enviva, owner of the Waycross plant that turns trees into nearly 1 million oven-dried tons of wood pellets per year.

    “They are just completely blowing past the legal limits for hazardous air pollutants and have been for some time,” said Heather Hillaker, a senior attorney with the Southern Environmental Law Center.

    This is the same organization that we heard in November is in major financial distress.

    https://news.mongabay.com/2023/11/enviva-the-worlds-largest-biomass-energy-company-is-near-collapse/

  38. Mirror on the wall says:

    Europe could be headed for a conflict in the Baltic. NATO has surrounded the Russian exclave Kaliningrad and Russia is reorganising its military for the conflict.

    Finland is totally up for it!

    Machine translation from a Greek article:

    https://warnews247.gr/karfi-gia-syrraxi-sti-valtiki-i-rosia-apanta-sto-nato-me-tin-stratia-agias-petroupolis-ypo-ton-ameso-elegcho-tou-a-gen-pernoun-oi-pente-rosikoi-stoloi/

    “Nail” for conflict in the Baltic: Russia responds to NATO with the St. Petersburg Army – All Fleets were placed under the command of the Russian A/GEN

    The Navy headquarters is moved to Moscow

    Fateful decision: NATO imposes naval blockade on Gulf of Finland and Kaliningrad – 70,000 NATO troops around Russian enclave

    The Russian Navy is immediately reorganizing its forces as it prepares for a conflict with NATO in the Baltic.

    A new report from the Russian intelligence services speaks of “gradual progress in the implementation of the blockade of Kaliningrad”.

    Moscow is preparing for conflict with main zones of operations the entire Baltic, St. Petersburg, the Gulf of Finland, Kaliningrad and the Suwalki Corridor.

    In particular, the St. Petersburg Army evokes memories of the wars with Finland.

    Also read: Fateful decision: NATO imposes naval blockade on Gulf of Finland and Kaliningrad -70,000 NATO troops around Russian enclave

    Russia Abolishes Areas of Responsibility of Five Fleets – Establishes Leningrad (St. Petersburg) Military District

    For this reason, the four Fleets and the Caspian Flotilla are being withdrawn from the military areas to which they belonged until now and are now directly subordinate to A/GEN Nikolai Evmenov.

    More specifically, from December 1st, the Caspian Fleet, the Pacific Fleet, the Baltic Fleet and the Black Sea Fleet withdrew from their respective areas, while the Northern Fleet also lost the status of joint strategic command.

    At the same time, the ground forces, the Air Force and the Army Air Defense, which were previously part of the Northern Fleet, are transferred to the Leningrad Military District.

    All fleets report directly to the Chief of the Navy.

    The Central Naval Headquarters will be moved out of St. Petersburg, most likely to Moscow.

    The reorganization provides for the creation of two new military districts, Moscow and Leningrad.

    The Leningrad Military District will be re-created to fend off threats from Finland and Estonia, the Moscow Military District will be responsible for the Ukrainian direction.

    Part of the Western Military District will be transferred to the Leningrad Military District, and part of the Southern and possibly Central Military District will be transferred to the Moscow Military District.

    Russian Report: Progress in Enforcing Blockade of Kaliningrad

    New Russian report speaks of gradual progress in enforcing blockade of Kaliningrad.

    It specifically mentions:

    The Baltic theater of operations has always been the most complicated and difficult for the Russian fleet, and geographically the situation is now the worst since the 18th century. Today, Russia has only one way to supply its enclave: by sea. We remind you that Poland and Lithuania have restricted the transit of Russian goods to Kaliningrad.

    In fact, we are seeing a gradual blockade of Kaliningrad.

    At the end of April, the US armed forces conducted the “Global Thunder 2023” strategic nuclear exercises in Europe. An indicative stage of the exercise was the attack on the Kremlin by UAVs launched from Ukraine using a NATO guidance system. Despite jamming the GPS and control channels, an enemy drone hit the spire of the Senate building.

    A similar check of Russian air defenses took place at the end of July. The Ukrainian UAV raid was organized 4-5 kilometers from the national defense control center, as well as the communications center of the main command of the Navy.

    To be clear: in the event of war, NATO will not use drones, but cruise missiles, perhaps hypersonic ones. Their arrival time will be 5-10 minutes. The command of the Russian Armed Forces will have just that much time to make and implement a decision to retaliate by the Strategic Missile Forces.

    Further, in June, the United States deployed all six of its nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarines (SSBNs) to the Atlantic and two more to the Pacific Ocean. This gives them an advantage in the event of a nuclear exchange. Meanwhile, Russia did not respond to this step.

    After developing its nuclear forces, the United States began to politically expel Russia from the Baltic.

    Initially, Washington used the Baltic states. Specifically, the President of Latvia announced the urgent need to close the Baltic Sea to all Russian ships, effectively seeking a pre-emptive strike against him to trigger Article 5.

    In turn, Denmark announced its intention to close the straits to Russian ships, and Estonia and Norway, following the example of Finland, closed border checkpoints with the Russian Federation, leaving only one “loophole” open.

    In addition, German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius recently declared that “Lithuania is trapped by Königsberg, Russia and Belarus” and sent one of the most battle-ready tank brigades to blockade Kaliningrad.

    It should be noted that NATO exercises in the Baltic may also limit access to Kaliningrad. Thus, during the Freezing Winds-23 exercise, access to the maritime area in neutral waters was temporarily restricted, and Russian ships had to make a huge detour.

    If they want, they can conduct several exercises at the same time, which will make it impossible to go to Kaliningrad even if there is no real blockade.

    Note that it is technically possible to isolate Russia from the Baltic Sea with very small forces. All it needs is a small supply of mines, anti-ship missiles and UAVs for reconnaissance.

    Let’s turn to the story.

    In June 1941, the Soviet Baltic Fleet was a formidable force. It consisted of more than 25 warships, 66 submarines, 142 other ships and up to 600 fighter aircraft. It surpassed in power all the other countries combined in the Baltic.

    The Germans and Finns used two naval groups, which included 5 civilian ships, one minesweeper and several dozen boats. They were later joined by two Finnish minesweepers.

    Together they laid so many mines that by the end of the summer of 1941 the Baltic Fleet was paralyzed.

    Currently, NATO countries are actively preparing for a war in the Baltic, where they will first try to pin down the Baltic fleet.

    In late October, Finland announced the purchase of AARGM-ER anti-radar missiles worth $500 million. These missiles are designed to destroy radar stations.

    From December, 20 warships of NATO’s Joint Task Force will patrol the Baltic Sea. In particular, Sweden will send two Visby-class corvettes for the first time. According to the Swedish Defense Minister, “this is a message for Russia.”

    Thus, the limited fleet of civilian ships, the difficult weather conditions in the Baltic, the reinforcement of the NATO naval group and the intensification of exercises in the region, make the Russian enclave vulnerable and Kaliningrad itself an excellent target.

    • It will be much about nothing.

      The Baltic Fleet was cleaned up by the Japanese back in 1905 and was not rebuilt until 1950s

      The only thing the Baltic Fleet did during World War 2 was organizing the withdrawal from Tallinn

      kalingrad returning to Konigsberg is actually a victory for Civilization.

    • Mirror on the wall says:

      LOL

      I suspect that much of that is NATO fantasy but there is one way to find out.

      “To be clear: in the event of war, NATO will not use drones, but cruise missiles, perhaps hypersonic ones. Their arrival time will be 5-10 minutes. The command of the Russian Armed Forces will have just that much time to make and implement a decision to retaliate by the Strategic Missile Forces.”

      Russia and China have hypersonic missiles – USA/ NATO does not.

      So how is that going to work out in the Baltic?

      Maybe ask UKR LOL

      • ivanislav says:

        We are the 800lb gorilla, the big dog, the one you don’t wanna mess with! (please believe us)

      • drb753 says:

        well, if your land assets are all spent, if your biolabs have been bombed or closed, it is time to spend your naval assets. Also, given that the last Ukraininan will be gone sometimes next year, it is time to fight to the last Pole.

        • Foolish Fitz says:

          After the failure of the sanctions from hell and the fact that Russia has taken back important land areas, it looks like they are trying to cut sea access to Kaliningrad and the Atlantic, in a vain attempt to strangle Russian ability to move goods(FF). That’s why Crimea was the real goal and why Russia must take Odesa and keep expanding it’s Caspian route with Iran.
          The west dominates the north Atlantic, so the Black sea, Caspian sea, Red sea(Suez) and the Persian gulf/gulf of Oman need to be in friendly hands(their own).

          The troubles in Western Asia seem to be for the same reason. Control of transport routes. Iran, Russia and China are slowly bringing the region out of western control and that will be the end of western dominance from east Africa to china.

          Do you believe that the Poles will be stupid enough to go into a fight that they can only lose?
          A quick look at Ukraine would show them how bad that works out for them and how good it works for Russia.

          https://m.vz.ru/economy/2023/11/30/1241883.html

    • This strikes me as strange. If NATO has trouble finding enough weapons to fight in Ukraine, why does it think it can fight Russia with respect to Kaliningrad, at the same time?

      Of maybe the Ukraine war has died down, and NATO needs a new place to stir up trouble to distract from other problems, like winter weather and perhaps not enough fuel.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Or maybe it never died up … as in it was basically fake…

        Let’s not forget they orchestrated the George Floyd thing as well

  39. Mirror on the wall says:

    The genocide continues in Gaza. Israelis killed 700 Palestinians today.

    • davecoop says:

      Aw, c’mon, Isreal’s a sacred cow …

      • Foolish Fitz says:

        Don’t mention the sacred cow dave, they’ve already had two red heifers delivered. The Assemblies of Yahweh will be waving their star of Remphan flags in anticipation of their imagined rapture.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      21,000 if they can keep this up for a month.

      Russia killed 125,000 UKEY soldiers in a month – and it’s harder to kill soldiers and women and children

      JOOOS get F. for Fail.

      Maybe they can ask Pooty how they can get the numbers up

    • moss says:

      All humans have flaws, it’s wot makes the Catholics sinners and the rest of us lovers of Dostoievsky, although even he would have been shocked, I tell you, to read in this very blog commentary strictures upon Saint Ugo of the illustrious house of Bardi. But alas it’s a sad revelation that internet writers go far beyond essayists of the past, into a realm no once once did, continue to expose their personal foibles rather than truth; some are gun fanatics, fundamentalist constitutionalists, born again (no, actually I take that back I’ve read none of them), ecologists, even lunar landing denialists

      Like CGT proposes, the ability of any individual one of we the blind to be able to catagorically affirm anything beyond our immediate perception doesn’t exist. Socrates Paradox appeals to him because it affirms this inability to affirm.

      The official version of the Hamas-Israel war raises more questions than it answers. Here, the author highlights seven major contradictions. On reflection, Hamas and Benjamin Netanyahu, far from being enemies, are acting in concert with no regard for the lives of Palestinians or Israelis. Behind them, the United States and the United Kingdom are pulling the strings.
      byline Thierry Meyssan who made his name in the eleven nine thing. One of the great “unanchored upon moneygrubbing” minds of our century YVMV
      voltairenet.org/article220078.html

      Yves Smith December 3, 2023
      Israel supported Hamas as a way to divide the Palestinians. And how do you defend the openly genocidal view expressed by many Israeli officials and ordinary citizens?
      https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2023/12/yanis-varoufakis-as-bombs-are-raining-down-on-gaza-again-it-is-no-longer-about-hamas-or-netanyahu-it-is-about-our-humanity-being-tested.html#comment-3964625

      • Fast Eddy says:

        I am more concerned about the experimentation on animals and industrial farming.

        I give ZERO f789s about humans being slaughtered… humans deserve it

  40. davecoop says:

    “Electric arc furnaces: the technology poised to make British steelmaking more sustainable”

    https://uk.news.yahoo.com/electric-arc-furnaces-technology-poised-175249467.html

    They don’t mention that there’s not yet an electric power grid in the world which gets even nearly half its energy from such as wind/solar-generated power — when/how could they have enough power left over to melt steel?
    (Why don’t they tell the folks in Hawaii about this, where they’re still shipping in diesel to run their power grids — I guess this kind of thing gets posted because that’s what people want to believe.)

  41. davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

    historic gold prices in USD inflation adjusted:

    https://www.macrotrends.net/1333/historical-gold-prices-100-year-chart

    $2,600 in 1980

    $2,400 in 2011

    $2,300 in 2020

    gold is at its all time high.

    blah blah blah.

  42. Fast Eddy says:

    Endotoxin in Jabs drives Tumour Associated Macrophage M2 causing Cancer and Metastasis + All Covid19 Jabs contain Endotoxin that can cause rapid Cancer growth and Metastasis by enhancing proliferation of immune suppressing M2 TAMs = Ticking Bomb inside each vaxxer.

    https://geoffpain.substack.com/p/endotoxin-in-jabs-drives-tumour-associated

    • Mish says:

      Debt to GDP Alarm Bells Ring, Neither Party Will Solve This

      “Neither party will fix the deficits. Neither party will do anything about mounting debt. No one will do anything about anything because the political system is totally broken.” Mish

      That’s also the message of the Treasury market and gold. Bitcoin advocates would say Bitcoin as well.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Global Holodomor is imminent… can’t eat BC or Gold… but there are folks who see both as talismans that will somehow protect them from the Mega Death

  43. Fast Eddy says:

    AnxiousTearDrop

    11 hr. ago
    I am going on 2 years of long covid and I am still very uncomfortable but what has helped me the most is watching what I eat (no gluten or wheat at ALL and very limited sugar, NO CAFFEINE). Weed and xanax also have helped me manage symptoms. All of my tests always come back normal so my doctor(s) dont know how to help me further, so I’ve been on my own. My symptoms used to come in flare ups but I’ve been in a flare up for 4 months now which is the longest so idk if I’m getting better or not. Some here do get better though!

    Flare ups???? Perhaps they flare up … after each booster hahahahahaha Duh

    This is parade of stooopidity https://www.reddit.com/r/covidlonghaulers/comments/18aa6es/the_feeling_is_almost_unbearable_your_help_is/

    I love parades… how about a float with hospital beds and syringes full of Fizzer and dying ‘Long Haulers’ aka vax damaged f789tards…. with some dancing nurses and doctors following … every so often they hop on and inject a Long Hauler…

    Throw in some Tranny Freaks … gyrating in their silk panties taunting the very confused Long Haulers… with parents clapping and dancing along….

    Could they get their hands on the India moon rover? It’s of course on the moon – but nevermind… just get it onto a float for the parade… MOREONS won’t ask questions

    Then last and least… Super Snatch … a gigantic fat festering ogre… propped up on a flat bed truck with her Dumpster… with norm valiantly battling various hobos and DOM (dirty old men) reeking of stale booze and urine … who are keen on cop-ulating SSS… for $$$. SSS wails — stop that norm ya geezer … I needs the munny for me Happy Meal dinner… and me make-up … dontachwant your Super Snatch to look perty for you????

    We’ve gone slightly off topic here….

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