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It is now popular to talk about leaving fossil fuels to prevent climate change. Pretty much the same result occurs if we run short of fossil fuels: We lose fossil fuels, but it is because we cannot extract them. Practically no one tells us about the extent to which the current system depends upon fossil fuels, however.
The economy is extraordinarily dependent on fossil fuels. If there are not enough fossil fuels to go around, there is likely to be fighting over what is available. Some countries are likely to get far more than their fair share, while the rest of the world’s population will be left with very little or no fossil fuels.
If losing fossil fuels completely, or nearly completely, is a risk for some of the world’s population, it might be useful to think through some of the things that go wrong. The following are some of my ideas about things that change, mostly for the worse, in a fossil fuel-deprived economy.
[1] Banks, as we know them, will likely fail.
Before banks fail in areas with virtually no fossil fuels, my guess is that we will generally see hyperinflation. Governments will greatly increase the money supply in a vain attempt to get people to believe that more goods and services are being produced. This approach will be used because people equate having more money with the ability to buy more goods and services. Unfortunately, without fossil fuels it will be very difficult to produce very many goods.
More money will simply provide more inflation because it takes physical resources, including the proper types of energy, to operate machinery of all kinds to make goods. Creating services also requires fossil fuel energy, but generally, to a lesser extent than creating goods. For example, the pair of scissors used in cutting hair is made using fossil fuel energy. The person cutting hair needs to be paid; his or her pay needs to be high enough to cover energy-related costs such as buying and cooking food to eat. The shop where hair cutting is operated will also need to pay for the fossil fuel energy required for heat and light, assuming such energy is even available.
Banks will fail because too large a share of debts cannot be repaid with interest. Part of the problem will be that while wages will rise, the prices of goods and services will rise even faster, making goods unaffordable. Another part of the problem is that service economies, such as those of the US and eurozone, will be disproportionately affected by a declining economy. In such an economy, people will get their hair cut less often. Instead, they will spend their money on essentials, including food, water, and cooking supplies. Service-providing businesses, such as hair salons and restaurants, will fail for lack of customers, leading to defaults on their debts.
[2] Today’s governments will fail.
With failing banks, today’s governments will also fail. Partly, they will fail because of attempts to bail out banks. Another problem will be declining tax revenue because fewer goods and services are produced. Pension programs will become increasingly difficult to fund. All these issues will lead to increasingly divisive politics. In some cases, central governments may dissolve, leaving states and other smaller units, such as today’s provinces, to continue on their own.
Intergovernmental organizations, such as the United Nations and NATO, will find their voices becoming less and less heeded before they fail. Getting sufficient funding from member states will become an increasing problem.
Dictatorships ruled by leaders who wield absolute power and aristocracies ruled by leaders with hereditary rights are the types of governments with the least energy requirements. These are likely to become more common without fossil fuels.
[3] Nearly all of today’s businesses will fail.
Fossil fuels are essential for all kinds of businesses. They are used in the extraction of raw materials and in the transportation of goods. We use fossil fuels to pave roads and to build nearly all of today’s buildings. Without fossil fuels, even simple repairs of existing infrastructure become impossible. Without adequate fossil fuels, international companies are especially at risk of breaking into smaller units. They will find it impossible to operate in parts of the world with virtually no fossil fuel supply.
Fossil fuels are even used in making solar panels, wind turbines, and replacement parts for electric vehicles. Talking about solar and wind as “renewables” is to a significant extent misleading. At best, they can be described as fossil fuel “extenders.” They might help a problem of a slightly low fossil fuel supply, but they are far from adequate substitutes.
[4] Grid electricity and the internet will disappear.
Fossil fuels are important for maintaining the electrical transmission system. For example, restoring downed power lines after storms requires fossil fuels. Hooking up solar panels or wind turbines to the electric grid requires fossil fuels. Home solar panel systems may operate until their inverters fail. Once their inverters fail, their usefulness will be greatly degraded. Fossil fuels are needed to manufacture new inverters.
Fossil fuels are also important for maintaining every part of the internet system. Furthermore, without grid electricity, it becomes impossible to use computers to connect to the internet.
[5] International trade will be scaled back greatly.
At this time of year, many of us remember the story of the three kings from the East coming to visit the baby Jesus with precious gifts. We also remember stories in the Bible of Paul traveling to distant countries. From these and many other examples, we know that international trade and travel can continue without fossil fuels.
The problem is that without fossil fuels, some parts of the world will have very little to offer in return for goods made with fossil fuels. Countries with fossil fuels will quickly figure out that government debt from countries without fossil fuels doesn’t really mean much when it comes to paying for goods and services. As a result, trade will be scaled back to match available exports. Exports of goods will likely be very limited for parts of the world operating without fossil fuels.
[6] Agriculture will become much less efficient.
Today’s agriculture has been made unbelievably efficient using large mechanical equipment, generally powered by diesel, together with a huge number of chemicals, including herbicides, insecticides, and fertilizers. In addition, fences and netting made with fossil fuels are used to keep out unwanted animal pests. In some cases, greenhouses are used to provide a controlled climate for plants. Using fossil fuels, specialized hybrid seeds are developed that emphasize characteristics that farmers consider desirable. All these “helps” will tend to disappear.
Without these helps, agriculture will become much less efficient. Figure 1 shows that even with the small cutback in fossil fuel use in 2020, the share of employment provided by agriculture rose.
Employment in agriculture is essential. These workers did not get laid off, even as workers in tourism and workers making fancy clothes lost their jobs, so agricultural jobs as a share of total employment rose.
[7] Future labor needs are likely to be disproportionately in the agricultural sector.
People need to eat. Even if the economy is operating in a very inefficient manner, people will need food. The share of people in agriculture (including hunting and gathering) can be expected to rise considerably.
Some people hope that a shift to the use of permaculture will solve the problem of the dependence of agriculture on fossil fuels. I see permaculture as mostly a fossil-fuel extender, rather than a solution for getting along without fossil fuels, because it assumes the use of many fossil fuel-based devices, such as modern fences and today’s tools. Also, at best, permaculture only partly solves the inefficiency problem because it requires a huge amount of hands-on labor.
Today, there is a wide divide between the share of employment in agriculture in the United States and in the same statistic for the UN group of least developed countries. Most of these countries are in sub-Saharan Africa. They use very little fossil fuels.
The US share of employment in agriculture has recently been about 1.7%. In the part of Europe using the Euro, the share of employment in agriculture has recently averaged about 3.0%. In either the US or Europe, it would take a huge change in employment to get to 70% in agricultural employment (as seen early in the 1990s for the UN least developed group), or even to 55% (as experienced recently by the same group).
[8] Home heating will become a luxury item available only to the wealthy.
Without fossil fuels, wood will come into high demand for its heat value. Wood will be needed for cooking food; it is very difficult to subsist on a diet of all raw foods. Wood will also be in demand for making charcoal, which in turn can be used to smelt some metals. With these demands on wood, deforestation is likely to become a major problem in many parts of the world. Wood in general will be quite expensive, given the considerable cost of harvesting and transporting it over long distances without the benefit of fossil fuels.
People living in sparsely populated wooded areas may be able to gather their own wood for home heating. For other people, home heating will likely become a luxury, affordable only by the very rich.
[9] Living alone will become a thing of the past.
Without enough heat, and with barely enough wood for cooking, people (and their animals) will have to huddle together more. Homes housing multiple generations, built over a place for keeping farm animals, may again become popular. It will be more efficient to cook for large groups than for one person at a time. People in cold areas will huddle together with each other in beds to keep warm. Or they will huddle together with their dogs, as in the saying, three dog night, meaning a night that is cold enough to need to have three dogs to keep a person warm.
Even in warm parts of the world, people will live together in groups, simply because maintaining a household for a single person will become impossibly expensive. Food and fuel for cooking will take up a huge share of a family’s income. There will be little left over for other expenses.
[10] Governments and their laws will shrink in importance. Instead, new traditions and new religions will play a greater role in keeping order.
Governments have made dozens of promises, but without a growing supply of fossil fuels (or an adequate substitute), they will not be able to keep them. Pensions will be gone. The ability of governments to enforce ownership laws will likely disappear. Without any good substitute for fossil fuels, mass disorder is a likely outcome.
People crave order. Without order, it is impossible to conduct business. We know from recent experience that “sustainability groups,” put together by people with a common interest in sustainability tend not to work well enough to provide order. They tend to fall apart as soon as obstacles arise.
What has seemed to work to provide order in the past is some combination of traditions and religions. With a changing world, both traditions and religions are likely to need to change. In the book, Communities that Abide, by Dmitry Orlov et al., the authors point out that having a strong (non-elected) leader, and a shared set of religious beliefs, helps keep a group together. In fact, it helps if the group is somewhat persecuted. Fighting for a common cause is part of what keeps the group together.
The Ten Commandments in the Bible are interpreted in a way that strongly suggests that they are rules for behavior within the group, not for behavior in general. For example, “Thou shalt not kill,” applies to other members of the group; wars against other groups were very much expected. In those wars, killing of members of another group was expected. This would seem to allow Israel’s killing of members of Hamas, today. Without enough fossil fuels to go around, fighting becomes more frequent.
Conclusion
In my opinion, the problem the world is facing today is like one that smaller economies have faced, over and over, in the past: The population has become too large for the economy’s resource base, which now includes fossil fuels. Today’s leaders reframe the problem as voluntarily moving away from fossil fuels to prevent climate change in order to make the situation sound less frightening.
As I see the situation, the world needs to scale down its use of fossil fuels because, ultimately, the laws of physics determine selling prices for fossil fuels. We extract the inexpensive-to-produce fossil fuels first. The problem is that fossil fuel selling prices cannot rise arbitrarily high. Prices must be both:
- High enough for producers to make a profit, with funds left over for reinvestment and for adequate taxes for their governments.
- Low enough for consumers to afford to buy food and other consumer goods produced with these fossil fuels.
If we assume that all the fossil fuels that seem to be under the ground can really be extracted, climate change from burning them may indeed be a problem. But it is hard to see that they can really be extracted, given the affordability issue. Politicians will hold down prices to get voters to vote for them if nothing else.
Researchers have been working diligently to find solutions, but to date, their success has been poor. Every supposed solution requires significant use of fossil fuels. So, we need to think through what might happen if we are forced to get along without fossil fuels and without an adequate substitute.
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Surviving Christmas in The Middle Ages
During the Middle Ages, winter was a particularly harsh season, cold and dark, with short daylight hours and no need to be out working in the fields. So, there was no better time to take twelve days off, from Christmas Eve until Epiphany on 6th January, and party. Except for the obligatory church services, that’s exactly what the Medievals did, with feasts, fun, and celebrations. Let’s travel back in time and take a look at Christmas trolls, holiday hooligans, and fire hazards in the Middle Ages. Welcome to Medieval Madness
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OE83CpUIsUk
Well, It’s BAU, the best gift Nuttie Eddies Elders can provide for us…have a good one
OK video. You may want to skip over the long Door Dash commercial near the beginning.
I’m very grateful for your wonderful work Gail. And for the commentary here on OFW. Merry Christmas!
Thanks very much, and Merry Christmas to you, also.
Thank you Gail, having a sanctuary on the internet is a wonderful thing. Merry Christmas.
“Bombshell photos, video of UN-sponsored human migration camp at Darien Gap where global migrants assemble for transport to the United States
Michael Yon takes us on a tour through the San Vicente camp at the Darien Gap in Panama”?
https://healthranger.substack.com/p/bombshell-photos-video-of-un-sponsored?utm_source=cross-post&publication_id=1225906&post_id=114594023&utm_campaign=1032096&isFreemail=true&r=nm2q&utm_medium=email
This is quite the article. It asserts that somehow, there is an international immigration site at Darien Gap in Panama which helps would-be refugees from Haiti, China, and many other countries to migrate to the US. Supposedly the Biden administration is supporting this group; the United Nations is also supposedly behind it.
I can more or less believe the story. The wealthy powers that be want to keep wages of unskilled labor as low as possible, so as to keep their profits as high as possible (and keep the system operating as long as possible). The way to keep wages for unskilled labor low is by importing lots of immigrants from around the world. The UN sees this as a way to help poor people. The Biden administration just does as it is told, (or as the money suggests it do).
This article from Zerohedge may be related. It says, among other things,
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/mass-migration-blueprints-reveal-ngos-carefully-planned-us-migrant-invasion-report
“Mass Migration Blueprints” Reveal NGOs “Carefully Planned” US Migrant Invasion, Report Says
The maps show a similar route from southern Panama up to the US border.
The decline and decline of Germany .
https://www.reuters.com/markets/german-home-prices-plunge-further-no-respite-surging-rents-2023-11-24/#:~:text=Once%2Dbooming%20property%20prices%20in,of%20rock%2Dbottom%20borrowing%20costs.
Oh dear! Germany is in terrible shape! Rising rent prices; falling home prices.
After what was done to it in 1919 and 1945, it is a miracle Germany continued as long as it did.
The Order of Nine Angles a UK Satanist group has endorsed Biden for president.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/12/satanic-terrorist-cult-makes-2024-endorsement-biden-harris/
On Wednesday, O9A stated on its website that “democracy is failing; worldwide nations are going broke, preparing for war, inundated with refugees, beset by internal refugees, ruled by careerist psychopaths, and perhaps most ominously, electing leaders who are associated with foreign powers.”
“We want to rush into the abyss so that the ‘end of history‘ can come to its natural terminus and a new Dark Age will be visited upon the Earth.”
“In this new era,” the endorsement continued “might will make right, the claw and tooth will always be red, and blood will cross the land like an ever-flowing stream. The strong will oppress the weak, the weak will die, and natural selection will resume.”
“This can only happen through weak humanist leadership that will stumble its way into war, famine, recession, terrorism, corruption, and human misery. The suicides will leave before the battles commence …
“Only Biden-Harris can bring about this advancement of history, and therefore, we endorse the Biden-Harris campaign in 2024.”
They convinced me, the logic is air-tight. Biden Harris 2024!
The book “Might is Right” shows that kind of philosophy
https://dn790009.ca.archive.org/0/items/mightisrightragnarredbeard_201908/Might%20is%20Right%20-%20Ragnar%20Redbeard_text.pdf
(At the end of the book it said volume 2 would be available soon, but since the first edition came out in the 1890s,, we can safely assume that volume 2 will never be available.)
mmmmm, better than donuts … the small of burning ‘basis trade’ in the morning. Surely you recall the parasite’s ever faithful ‘basis trade’; borrow at 2%, lend or buy yield at 4%; the eternal free lunch, perpetual motion
I’ll state up front that the “basis trade” is surely only one facet of leverage that has engulfed Treasury and Agency markets – along with sovereign bond markets around the world. I can only assume a proliferation of massive global “carry trades,” where cheap borrowings from Japan and elsewhere finance levered holdings in higher-yielding instruments, including U.S. bonds. Moreover, Treasury short positions are financing huge “carry trade” speculative leverage in higher-yielding corporate debt, with Trillions of leverage embedded in global derivatives.
creditbubblebulletin.blogspot.com/2023/12/weekly-commentary-bubble-kings.html
JPY is looking uncomfortably robust, but the Fed induced surge in fixed interest market returned so far has sufficed. Treasury yields are gunna have to keep falling though, or their hedging shorts are not going to cover quite as well as needed to repay the nips.
We NPC out here can but chant this buddhamas for the wellbeing of the hedgies’ appetites that can keep up the bonuses for another splendid year ahead.
Well done for 2023 but hey don’t encounter any drunken plough hogs on your ways home.
compliments of the season for us all here and safe travels to Gail. Incense burning.
The status of the financial system is indeed frightening. We have way too many parts ready to blow up or collapse.
A celebration of what it is to be human…. and Christmas https://t.me/leaklive/17425
Some shoppers are a bit pushy, but not like that.
Western values on full display! 😜
African American values no appropriations European American.
Architecture in Space 1982
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUPh-EjEVIw
Unlimited energy 24/7/365 from the sun.
O’Neill cylinders
This does sound far-fetched. We will live in a space structure such as this. Not soon, as far as I can see.
“We will go in space, because it pays to be in space,” according to one speaker. The investment cost must also be something private capital can handle.
The first crop of investors in Silicon Valley made a lot of money.
The first crop of investors in the space sector will make a lot of money, too.
History doesn’t repeat itself but it sure does rhyme.
Maybe. It may be too late for this to happen. It may be primarily overnments who print money in order to try to explore space. Payback may be too little too late.
Also, the first investors in the actual EV autos found that the selling price was a lot less than what they paid for them.
Orchestrated — as are most acts of terror https://t.me/leaklive/17418 All fake.
Everyone should be armed https://t.me/leaklive/17419
“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State”
Arm your neighbors, sell the bullets.
We’re being played, everywhere, any place, all the time. Pity there ain’t no charming warlords like Stalin anymore.
In 1812 would you have had us just surrender to the depredation of the Canadians!
They know perfertly well about the coming
supply gut. So we need to outsmart them. Like making them believe that we also want to cull down a large part of the world population.
I want Extinction. No pretending… that is what is necessary
>> Charges dropped for 42 year old Indiana man Jason Henkle after he shot a crazed teen who attacked him in a road rage incident.
Jason Henkle should be shot for being a terrible driver causing the road rage incident
Each of those numbers is a TFI https://t.me/EdwardDowdReal/514
“An exacerbated Dr John Campbell ends 2023 with the sombre news that excess deaths remained high worldwide. Especially in Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the UK and the US.
There has been nothing like it since WW2 but the powers that be refuse to discuss it. It’s beyond strange. Each of those numbers is a human being.”
let’s ask norm about this
Thanks Gail! I think that you deal with the energy subject in a rational manner. From there, all nonsense comments stand out. FE comments, though often far-fetched, are very important and are rarely nonsense. We need to see the whole spectrum.
The mob has often wanted to burn the great thinkers at the stake….
Fast Eddy is The Goat… it goes without saying that billions would prefer HE be assassinated.
they do not want The Truth.
The middle east joining together for peace does make me wonder about a higher force.
The possibility of everything going down at once does also.
Lol,…. Indeed….
The collapse of the financial system … will collapse supply chains…. BAU will be deprived of oxygen … and it will not matter where you are — Somalia to London…. you will die.
There will be no food. All hell will break lose.
However The Pathogen – and the ensuing martial law … will prevent most of the violence as Global Holodomor rolls across the planet.
Yeah,
Yesterday I read a lengthy article in the French press about rich people meeting model-class girls in VIP lounges in Paris nightclubs.
It seems to be the only goal: pretend to fuck as many model-sized girls as possible, and outfuck your competitor. Hello, this is basic chimpanzee logic. Are we sinking as a species?
We have been at the bottom of the barrel as a species for a very long time… it is getting worse though
No
Dennis L.
Everything is going to go up all at once.
AI, biotech and space is going to make the last 100 years seem like the Dark Ages.
Some great minds are working on solving the world’s biggest problems and their mindset is “go big or go home!” I love it.
All we have to do is invest and they’ll make us rich beyond our wildest dreams. I love it.
Dennis (sic), your bank account will go up, alright. Up in smoke, along with the currency.
I am investing in The George Jetson Company – they make flying cars
Attaboy, Ed. You don’t have to go alone, you can bring along friends and relatives on your investment journey. There’s no reason why you and someone like Norm can’t be co-investors in whatever it you invest in. Buddies often make the best business partners.
norm is not a reliable partner… he invests all his spare coins in Super Snatch Sessions.
Yes
Dennis L.
Watch her have a stroke live on air https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/p/german-tv-newscaster-goes-aphasic
Of course it’s just a coincidence. 🤓
The East is Read reports China’s Local Govt debt in 2020 was 50% Higher than WB, IMF Estimates. Undoubtedly, the situation is much worse today.
Local government debt in China amounted to 90 trillion yuan (12.49 trillion U.S. dollars) in 2020, 50% higher than the World Bank and IMF estimates, according to a recent study by Professor David Daokui Li and Zhang He of the Academic Center for Chinese Economic Practice and Thinking (ACCEPT), Tsinghua University.
https://mishtalk.com/economics/chinas-local-govt-debt-in-2020-was-50-higher-than-wb-imf-estimates/
The report says:
“China’s local government debt demonstrates a nested structure, where local governments establish entities to secure loans, and these entities, in turn, leverage those borrowed funds to acquire further financing for their subsidiaries.”
I have understood that the Chinese have done a lot of this. I have heard of similar arrangements being done with businesses. One business guarantees the debt of another, and then another.
Later the report says:
“Without central government intervention, local debt is unsustainable.”
I am afraid the situation is that the debt is unsustainable, under any circumstance. The report is optimistic on the outcome.
The report did correctly observe, first,
“The rapid accumulation of infrastructure debt is the main reason for the rapid rise in the leverage ratio of local governments and the entire real economy.”
I would instead say that without all of the added debt, the infrastructure that allowed China its place in the world economy could not have been added.
Chinese debt is just like US debt, IT WILL NEVER BE PAID.
Let’s all write it off and move on.
That’s not a good idea.
Cancelled debts destroy wealth.
Do you want to destroy your wealth?
>> Cancelled debts destroy wealth.
Not at all. It transfers wealth. Debt governs wealth ownership, so debt cancellation is merely a change in ownership.
Why do you want to destroy other people’s source of wealth? They probably worked hard to accumulate the capital they lent out.
I wasn’t making a moral argument. I merely corrected the assertion being made.
debt is a call on future energy availability and input
if you incur a debt–but during the repayment period, you lose you ability to earn energy in the form of (real) money—you will end up it debtors prison
and no–crypto will not bail you out—no matter how much you fantasise about it.
Viking Dentistry Was Surprisingly Advanced And Not Unlike Today’s Treatments
https://arkeonews.net/viking-dentistry-was-surprisingly-advanced-and-not-unlike-todays-treatments/
: A filed hole from the crown of the tooth into the pulp – a procedure that reduces toothache and infection. Photo: Carolina Bertilsson
One sign of more sophisticated procedures was molars with filed holes, from the crown of the tooth and into the pulp, probably in order to relieve pressure and alleviate severe toothache due to infection.
“This is very exciting to see, and not unlike the dental treatments we carry out today when we drill into infected teeth. The Vikings seem to have had knowledge about teeth, but we don’t know whether they did these procedures themselves or had help.”
The findings suggest that caries, tooth infections, and toothache were common among the Viking population in Varnhem. However, the study also reveals examples of attempts to look after teeth in various ways.
“There were several signs that the Vikings had modified their teeth, including evidence of using toothpicks, filing front teeth, and even dental treatment of teeth with infections,” says Carolina Bertilsson, a dentist and Associate Researcher, and the study’s first-named and corresponding author.
The results, which have been published in the journal PLOS ONE, show that 49% of the Viking population had one or more caries lesions. Of the adults’ teeth, 13% were affected by caries – often at the roots. However, children with milk teeth – or with both milk and adult teeth – were entirely caries-free.
Tooth loss was also common among adults. The studied adults had lost an average of 6% of their teeth, excluding wisdom teeth, over their lifetimes. The risk of tooth loss increased with age.
So it seems we out did these Vikings in the rottenness of our teeth, but not in the treatment….so calm down, after the fall, we’ll be just fine…enjoy your Christmas candies
Amazing!
I understand that hunters and gatherers did not have a problem with caries.
Yes. cavities are a problem solely of agricultural societies.
Ancient hunter-gatherers’ diet gave them toothache
By Nicola Pearson
First published 6 January 2014
Research led by Museum scientists suggests a diet rich in starchy foods may have caused high rates of tooth decay in ancient hunter-gatherers.
The results published today in US journal PNAS (Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences) also suggest tooth decay was more prevalent in earlier societies than previously estimated.
https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/news/2014/january/ancient-hunter-gatherers-diet-toothache.html
Research led by Museum scientists suggests a diet rich in starchy foods may have caused high rates of tooth decay in ancient hunter-gatherers.
The results published today in US journal PNAS (Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences) also suggest tooth decay was more prevalent in earlier societies than previously estimated.
The people of Grotte des Pigeons — French for “Cave of the Pigeons” — tell a vastly different story. Scientists examined the remains of 52 adults who had lived between roughly 12,000 and 13,000 B.C. and were buried in the cave. An astonishing 49 of them, or 94%, had cavities, which affected more than half of the surviving teeth. Many also had dental abscesses, which cause excruciating pain. Some had lost the entire crown of a tooth, forcing the sufferer to chew on the tooth’s root.
“They have really horrible teeth,” says paleoanthropologist Louise Humphrey of London’s Natural History Museum, an author of the new study. “The only population I’ve seen with decay like that are people who lived in London about 200 years ago (and) would’ve had sugar in their diet.”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/01/06/tooth-decay-archaeology/4307319/
The researchers reached this conclusion after studying the decay-ridden teeth of 15,000-year-old adult skeletons from Morocco. Just over 50 percent of the teeth they examined in 52 skeletons showed signs of rot, Wired UK reports. That figure’s similar to the incidence of tooth decay in agricultural societies that emerged a few thousand years down the line. The “exceptionally high” number of cavities, the authors write, is also “comparable to modern industrialized populations with a diet high in refined sugars and processed cereals.”
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/hunter-gatherers-ruined-their-teeth-by-eating-too-many-acorns-180949292/
Maybe it’s best not to fall into the trap of easy generalization. Yes, most hunter-societies probably had healthy teeth, but this may not have been the case in all places and in all periods. Human history is a complex tapestry, and different societies had varied diets and lifestyles. This finding challenges the notion that all hunter-gatherer societies enjoyed pristine dental health. It’s a reminder that our ancestors were as diverse in their habits as we are today. Each group had its own unique challenges and adaptations. The dental time capsule seems to be full of surprises!
The purely carnivorous hunters did not have dental issues….other than teeth worn down from hide chewing…..and broken teeth from trying to crack bone hyena style.
A siren… a siren…. hoping somewhere a 12 yr old has keeled in front of his parents with… a heart attack
Taking some time off, reading Collum.
“Recent studies show the Amish are not getting all the modern ailments that plague “the English”, including a striking lack of covid mortalities, diabetes, and autism.14 And at a scientific level, the growing awareness that the bugs comprising the human biome—those 100,000 retroviruses and gazillions of unicellular organisms in our gut and elsewhere—are not just freeloaders but rather function symbiotically to help us reach old age.”
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/dave-collums-2023-year-review-down-some-dark-rabbit-holes-part-1
Collum and his wife do not seem to be very well per his writings.
I am a minimalist with regard to health care. Around Rochester the obesity is concerning to be polite.
Again, if you missed it, Merry Christmas.
Dennis L.
https://cm-us-standard.s3.amazonaws.com/Collum-YIR2023.pdf
The PDF has better formatting. A little prettier.
Thanks. I found this quote early on:
“We now live in a nation where doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the press destroys information, religion destroys morals, and our banks destroy our economy.
~ Chris Hedges
Way too true.
“Collum and his wife do not seem to be very well per his writings.”
From the pic I saw with the dogs on his lap, it appears David Collum has been visiting the local fast food joints quite frequently.
The Amish are getting common around here now. I expect they will be calling me for wolf control soon enough.
Exercise and eating just “enough”……seems to work….shocking ain’t it.
Collum is out, a quote which should bring a few smiles and laughter.
“Your next colonoscopy may be a robotic gerbil fitted with a GoPro camera that you control with an app on your iPhone.”
For FE,
“Pig orgasms can last up to 90 minutes.” Enquiring minds want to know or some such.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/dave-collums-2023-year-review-down-some-dark-rabbit-holes-part-1
Tonight is Christmas Eve, being a good Lutheran Christian I go to mass, the music is traditional and wonderful, there is much waving and some pontification which all seems soothing. It is something I look forward to all year.
May each and every one of you have a peaceful Christmas.
Dennis L.
“Lutheran Christian I go to mass”
At one time in the remote past, I attended the Campus Lutheran meetings at the U of Arizona. It was a strange group, being a mix of Missouri synod and one of the more liberal groups. When both of the pastors were out of town, they called on me to give the sermon. One of them was on the practical aspects of being a good Samaritan.
That’s why Super Snatch chose her profession
I went to a service this morning. “Everybody” goes in the evening, except our family went this morning. When I grew up, we always had our family get together in the evening. We opened presents after a fancy meal, readings and singing. We only went to morning services.
I will attend another service tomorrow morning, too.
I went to a service this morning. A drunk man came in the church and prostrated himself on the platform next to the young preacher, where he loudly praised Baby Jesus (among other comments). It was the most authentic church service I’ve been to in years.🤗
I reckon the Catholic church’s confessional booths would be perfect for private lap dances… priests already use them to touch up young boys
I was hoping to go to a service today … but the Gents clubs are all closed…
I do have a key fob for the 24 hour gym though… that will have to do ….
This afternoon I’ll go with my neighbour and shoot some buck shot at the feral goats that are a problem in this area…
Surprise…we were mobile in Ancient Rome..
ARCHAEOLOGY
Tooth Analysis Reveals Sarmatian Child Traveled Thousands of Miles to Britain in Roman Times by Guillermo Carvajal December 20, 2023
Sarmatian cavalry on a relief of the Trajan Column |
Their analyses showed this man likely grew up over 1,000 miles away from where he was buried. Using isotopes found in his teeth, which can indicate diet and location, they discovered he was raised in a dry, eastern European area until around ages 5-6. At this young age, he experienced two major dietary changes that signaled a migration westward toward Britain.
As a child in eastern Europe, his diet consisted mainly of millet and sorghum grains not native to the region. But as he grew, these foods disappeared and were replaced by more familiar wheat, barley, rye and fruits and vegetables.
Previous burial evidence from Roman Britain suggests entire Sarmatian cavalry families may have joined forces sent to Britain by Emperor Marcus Aurelius in 175
After defeating invaders, Aurelius recruited 5,500 Sarmatian horsemen into the Roman legions. This offers one explanation for how our mystery man ended up in rural Cambridgeshire.
The Sarmatians occupied a vast region north of the Black Sea, and Rome increasingly relied on their formidable cavalry. Little is known about where the Sarmatian troops stationed in Britain, and no other individuals have been directly linked to this event.
But his extraordinary story of mobility across the empire highlights how connected the farthest provinces had become through Roman rule.
And that’s another reason why a pandemic arose..
The ancient chroniclers portray the plague as a disaster for the Roman army with the army “reduced almost to extinction.”[35]
This came in 166 at the beginning at the Marcomannic Wars in which Germanic tribes were invading Roman territory south of the middle Danube River in what is now the Czech Republic and Slovakia, and south to Italy. The impact of the plague forced Marcus Aurelius to recruit and train additional soldiers from among “gladiators, slaves, and bandits.”
After a delay of two years, in 169 the emperor launched an attack against the Germanic tribes. By 171, the Roman army had driven the invaders out of Roman territory. The war would continue sporadically until 180 when Marcus Aurelius died, possibly of the plague. The plague may also have impacted the Germanic tribes.[36] Wikipedia
Remarkable ability to adapt and survive…
Sarmatians, iranic population of the Caucasus area.
https://it.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarmati
The crazy Christmas consumerism: the door in a shopping center in Bratislava, Slovakia staeted to spin uncontrollably
https://tv.pravda.sk/embed/110a8993-46f9-4ee0-a11c-9c3df1df68d5
https://spravy.pravda.sk/domace/clanok/693827-predvianocne-sialenstvo-v-auparku-otacacie-dvere-sa-nekontrolovatelne-tocili-jedna-cast-odletela/
the elders talking about admiral hyman rickover back in 2007 to them he is a prophet and peak oil read carefully fast eddie they confirm uep is only option available sorry norm ; [Congressional Record Volume 153, Number 79 (Monday, May 14, 2007)]
[House]
[Pages H4941-H4947]
From the Congressional Record Online through the Government Publishing Office [www.gpo.gov]
PEAK OIL
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under the Speaker’s announced policy of
January 18, 2007, the gentleman from Maryland (Mr. Bartlett) is
recognized for 60 minutes as the designee of the minority leader.
Mr. BARTLETT of Maryland. Mr. Speaker, this is really a very
important day in our history. Exactly 50 years ago today in St. Paul,
MN, Admiral Hyman Rickover gave a very famous speech. In a few moments,
I will have here a copy of that speech, and I want to spend most of the
hour that we have this evening going over that speech, because he was
amazingly prophetic. This was a speech given to a group of physicians,
and it was about energy. Of course, his primary interest was nuclear
energy, and this was a speech about energy in general.
As I said, he was amazingly prophetic. He understood some
relationships, which today, with 50 years of history behind us, he
couldn’t have seen. He was amazingly more cognizant of some realities
than many of our people today.
We, of course, recognize that for several reasons we need to be
moving away from fossil fuels. There are several groups of people with
different interests who have really a common goal in their desire to
move away from fossil fuels to renewables. And these several groups
find common cause, and I hope that there will be less discussion of the
potential limitations of the other groups’ premise and more focus on a
common goal, and that is to help our country and our world move away
from fossil fuels to renewables.
The groups that have common cause in this are, first of all,
environmentalists, and there are two groups in the environmentalists
who are concerned about this. One is a group which is large and
growing, and that is a group that believes that our excessive use of
fossil fuels releasing carbon dioxide that was sequestered a very long
time ago, perhaps millions of years ago, with subtropical seas and
plumes of organisms like our algae today, which then fell to the bottom
and were covered by sediment washed in from the adjoining hills and
then later submerged by movements of tectonic
[[Page H4942]]
plates and with time and pressure became what we know today as gas and
oil. Coal is a little simpler. It wasn’t buried so deep, and you can
see in the broken block of coal the ancient fern leaves from which the
coal was produced. I saw that many times as a little child in western
Pennsylvania, coal country, when I broke lumps of coal to feed our coal
furnace. And what we are doing today, of course, is releasing that
carbon dioxide very fast. It took maybe millions of years to sequester,
but we are releasing it very fast; and so it is producing greenhouse
gases, which are warming the Earth and producing temperature changes.
For those who may wonder what difference does it make, a degree here
and a degree there. I would like to remind them that during the last
Ice Age about 10, 12,000 years ago, our world was only 5 degrees
centigrade colder than it is today. That is 9 degrees Fahrenheit. And
what this says is that very small temperature changes can make huge
changes in our weather.
A second group of environmentalists who have common cause in wanting
to move away from fossil fuels are those who believe that our air is
polluted enough and why would we want to pollute it further.
Then there are those who yearn for the day when America was a leading
exporter, and they believe that moving from fossil fuels to renewables,
sustainable renewables, that we can develop technologies which will be
saleable world-around.
And then there is a growing group of people who have major concerns
that, with only 2 percent of the known reserves of oil and using 25
percent of the world’s oil and importing almost two-thirds of what we
use, that this represents a totally unacceptable national security
risk, and so their desire is to move from fossil fuels, which we have
very little of, to renewables, which we hopefully could produce more
of.
And then there is the last group of these five, and by the way, I
subscribe in varying degrees to all of these other goals, but the last
one is particularly significant because we might somehow make it
through, luckily, the other crises that may be there. But the peak oil
crisis is one we won’t make it through, and that is one that Hyman
Rickover talked a good deal about.
i believe this christmas and new years eve will be our last best ones next years could be during collapse mode .
You got to believe! Amen, Brothers and Sisters..
For those of you that celebrate..have a merry day and how many moar till 2024…please, Lordie, let us live to see it and not have Nuttie Eddie ruin it all for us by his UEP…
California’s push for rooftop solar panels plummets after rule change Bloomberg PUBLISHED: December 22, 2023
Solar equipment-maker Enphase Energy Inc., long considered a bellwether for the sector, announced this week it would cut its workforce 10% and close two contract factories, with Chief Executive Officer Badri Kothandaraman citing California’s woes in a letter to staff.
The shakeout follows a change in California regulations that scaled back the amount of money solar homeowners earn when they sell excess electricity to the grid — a shift that hit just as higher interest rates were making the systems more expensive.
Research firm Ohm Analytics, which tracks the solar marketplace, found sales dropping 67% to 85% for the state’s private residential installers since the change went into effect in April.
Ahh, this can’t be good….maybe too optimistic there Adonis
I had a dream this morning … and woke shaken…. this was my dream
https://youtu.be/CA_N_QVxbKg?t=96
I have a copy of Hyman Rickover’s talk up on OurFiniteWorld.com. This is a link to it, in case anyone hasn’t seen it.
https://ourfiniteworld.com/2007/07/02/speech-from-1957-predicting-peak-oil/
and back then Gail—your piece only got 2 comments.
lol
how did OFW manage—– eddyless?
wow amazing thanks for the link to the whole talk
was screaming this 10 years ago
but what do i know?
you got everything right about peak oil norm but dont you think the vaccines and other actions could be part of a grand conspiracy to try to manage collapse and save part of the human race even if it is quite small
the only grand conspiracy has been to turn the planet into cash, as much as possible as fast as possible.
and that has been accellerating for the past 300 years.
we are collectively programmed for greed
covid, and all the other plagues—going back as far as you like, are due to a single factor,—greed, and that greed crowded us and animals into close proximity.—in millions.—those millions brought profit.—to a few.
viruses mutate—its what they do.
they mutated into deadly forms against us.—it might just have been a defence mechanism.—personnaly i think it was that.–i might be wrong.
all the ”other actions” are random events, panic, rumours, ”media madness” mainly..
there is no ‘conspiracy to get rid of us’—we are doing that very well ourselves—collectively—stupidly.
try to look at it objectively, and see the problem as we have created. it………..we can’t blame somebody else.
Nah. There is a conspiracy by the predator class—the Morlocks to exploit the prey class-the Eloy. Call it greed, or call it farm management, or call it pest control if you prefer.
Incidentally, when did you earn your degree in virology, Norman?
It’s common knowledge, Tim and it’s correct. Scientists are worried about many viruses, from the common cold to Hepatitis ones, mutating into deadly strains because of the lack of effort we’ve taken to stop the spread of them. They say we need a lot more vaccines and that we all may need to take up a daily vaccine routine, if climate change permits us to do so.
In the meantime–stop the spread.
norm learned a LOT about virology after his encounters with Super Snatch (and the Fester) Out Back the Dumpster….. a LOT.
eddy never ceases to regale us with his shortcomings—do you eddy?
the ultimate fakery
stuck for a smart reply ?
se x is the answer
A direct link to the quoted text – not Rickover’s original speech, but the discussion of it on the congressional record:
https://www.congress.gov/congressional-record/volume-153/issue-79/house-section/article/H4941-2
“In late 2021, we made a bold and deeply contrarian call: we predicted massive capital flows into renewable energy could potentially become history’s worst malinvestment ever. Our call looks correct three years later and the consequences have emerged with a vengeance. “?
https://blog.gorozen.com/blog/renewable-energy-investments?_hsmi=287610844&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-9t09ThTY0N5WGq4QGisb7qTb2P_AWVKHp6lwo2PMD2q0LZ4715FhFEJTTZ9SM9ijfJElB8PetLoAVPhH3HjYQubdYz9Q
I agree that renewables don’t work, but I think Charles Hall’s EROI figures have been part of what led people to believe that they would work (contrary to what this article says). I have written several times that the EROI figures are misleadingly high for wind and solar.
The Levelized Cost of Energy calculations compare intermittent electricity to dispatch-able electricity. Intermittent electricity is close to worthless.
“Intermittent electricity is close to worthless.”
That depends on if you can store it or have something useful to do with it. Making hydrogen with platinum cells does not work very well economically, but making either liquid fuel or hydrogen with PV power and coal seems to work well.
You have to store the intermittent electricity, and base its cost on the combination of the cost of producing it and storing it (and transporting it). That gets rid of the intermittency issue. Also, the wrong location issue.
“base its cost on”
Cost is something I am intensely aware of.
But PV has gotten down to the ridiculous level, 1.35 cents per kWh. You can add quite a bit for storage and still sell cheap power.
Keith, with all due respect—and you study this stuff while I don’t so you must know about it in a lot more detail than I do—if PV is so ridiculously cheap, why does It need to be subsidized both with government money and with “the subsidy of going first”? And why doesn’t government tax it like they do fossil fuels?
Kieth, ditto on the respect where it’s due, but could you kindly tease out that statistic of 1.35 cents per kWh
How do you get 1000 kWh for $13.50?
A whole PV system for that pittance???
(not counting storage)
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“why does It need to be subsidized ”
I don’t know if is subsidized. This is in the Mideast. It was a 2 GW installation.
“How do you get 1000 kWh for $13.50?”
Beats me. But here is the article. It’s only a month old.
https://www.pv-magazine.com/2023/11/20/ewec-commissions-2-gw-solar-plant-in-abu-dhabi/
The electricity is only intermittent. I expect the debt upon which the investment was made was at a very low interest rate.
I am not sure what this electricity is being used for. Intermittent electricity works perfectly well for making electricity to desalinate water, since that is something that can be done when electricity happens to be available.
The cost of land and taxes is likely close to zero.
“This is in the Mideast.”
Now he tells us.
And there was me thinking he was talking about rooftop PV in the Midwest.
And of course, space-based PV will be even cheaper. Probably too cheap to meter.
Perhaps we could build bakeries up there in geostationary orbit and bake pie in the sky!
$0.0135 per kW-hr is nonsense.
I am certified in solar design and installation having built and installed numerous systems. I roughed out a lifetime estimate for 8 230W panels, an inverter, ground mount, wiring, boxes, installation labor…I probably under estimated if anything cause I have done my own, without outside labor, nevertheless I threw in $10,000 for labor which is low.
Over 20 years lifetime, making a rough estimate of yield , daily hrs of light, avg kW-hr per day, avg per year for 365 days. and at 20 yrs, assuming nothing breaks and not including maintenance, cleaning,etc…the price per kW-hr is at least $0.24 / kW-hr. This is on the high end but inflation is causing wiring to soar in cost.
Throw in snow cover, rain, cloudy days, northerly latitudes and yoru costs can soar, and your payback minimal.
For my last install, wiring was going through the roof in cost.
Adding insult to injury is the huge cost many homeowners are going to get when they have to replace their roofs.
Much of the “low” cost of solar includes utility subsidies, and gov subsidies to install.
The bottom line is, if you are doing anything that is not cookbook…”slam the panels” onto a roof, and do minimal wiring, then your cost is high.
I imagine in Saudi Arabia that keeping the sand off of the solar panels will be a big deal. This will add costs and may lead to the system degrading earlier than otherwise.
“space-based PV will be even cheaper”
I spent ten years working on power from space and I never got it below 3 cents a kWh. The biggest chunk is lift cost which was $1300/kW. Parts, labor, and the rectenna brought it up to $2400/kW. There is a LCOE factor of 80,000 from capital cost to cents per kWh which is 3 cents/kWh.
Clinically … insane.
“$0.0135 per kW-hr is nonsense.”
First time I ran into this a few years ago on a 900 MW installation that’s what I thought. But that’s what the power is selling for, read the article.
This is not a roof top installation. They were installing 2 GW in the desert at 10 MW per day. No doubt using slave labor.
And free land, with no taxes to pay.
That depends on if you can store it or have something useful to do with it
We can’t afford to store it.
No one wants to buy used EVs and they’re piling up in weed-infested graveyards
Prices for secondhand EVs slumped by around a third in the year through October, compared with a decline of just 5% in the overall used market, according to sales data from iSeeCars.com.
BY MONICA RAYMUNT AND BLOOMBERG
the $1.2 trillion secondhand market, prices for battery-powered cars are falling faster than for their combustion-engine cousins. Buyers are shunning them due to a lack of subsidies, a desire to wait for better technology and continued shortfalls in charging infrastructures. A fierce price war sparked by Tesla Inc. and competitive Chinese models are further depressing values of new and used cars alike, threatening earnings at rivals like Volkswagen AG and Stellantis NV.
Because most new vehicles in Europe are sold via leases, automakers and dealers who finance these transactions are trying to recover losses from plummeting valuations by raising borrowing costs. That’s hitting demand in some European markets that were in the vanguard of the shift away from fossil fuel-powered propulsion. Some of the biggest buyers of new cars, including rental firms, are cutting back on EV adoption because they’re losing money on resales, with Sixt SE dropping Tesla models from its fleet.
“When a car loses 1% of its worth, I make 1% less profit,” said Christian Dahlheim, who heads VW’s financial services arm. The issues with secondhand EVs, he said, have the potential to destroy billions of euros in earnings for the broader industry.
problems are expected to intensify next year, when many of the 1.2 million EVs sold in Europe in 2021 will come off their three-year leasing contracts and enter the secondhand market. How companies tackle this problem will be key for their bottom lines, consumer confidence and ultimately decarbonization — including the European Union’s plan to phase out sales of new fuel-burning cars by 2035
There isn’t used-car demand for EVs,” said Matt Harrison, Toyota Motor Corp.’s chief operating officer in Europe. “That’s really hurting the cost-of-ownership story.”
Of folks won’t mind having a paperweight sitting in their driveway they can’t resell ..
Maybe it will come in use for homeless people that need a shelter…see problem solved..win, win… This green transition is looking more and more brown color
No one wants to buy used EVs and they’re piling up in weed-infested graveyards
The virtue signalling people who want them can afford to buy new. People without much money to spend on a car want something that actually works. A 3 ton car with poor range that takes hours to charge and that I can’t charge at home due to having an apartment is useless to me at almost any price.
How long does a used EV battery take to charge with renewable energy sources? You’d think there’d be a lot of data on this.
They make quite good boat anchors. And fish enjoy their modern interiors.
FTIs buy new EVs
Extreme TFIs buy used EVs.
We Must Have More Natural Gas Pipelines To Avoid Freezing Forbes
Ken Silverstein. Senior Contributor I write about the global energy business.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kensilverstein/2023/12/18/we-must-have-more-natural-gas-pipelines-to-avoid-freezing/amp/
Natural gas, 40% of this country’s energy portfolio, is the primary fuel for winter heating……According to the Interstate Natural Gas Association of America, the current political environment makes delivering fuel to natural gas customers taxing. “The United States needs more natural gas pipeline capacity to maintain a resilient system that affords homes and the power grid access to multiple sources of this critical fuel,” the trade group said in a prepared statement.
…..The experts responsible for delivering dependable heat and electricity to customers agreed that more infrastructure is required. The natural gas trade group said the country must have 24,000 miles of new gas pipelines by 2035, but we are planning for much less.
….To that end, the North American Electric Reliability Corp. cautioned that half of this country and parts of Canada could go cold this winter because of inadequate natural gas pipeline infrastructur
…National Economic Research Associates issued a report concluding that this country has sufficient natural gas resources to feed the domestic population and export to fuel-hungry Europe and Asia. Prices would also remain “relatively low” — $3 to $4 per million Btus. However, the researchers added that a lack of new pipeline capacity presents a “material impediment” for the industry to maintain reliability and inexpensive fuel.
…According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration, 3 million miles of existing natural gas pipelines exist in the United States, delivering 27.6 trillion cubic feet of natural gas to about 77.7 million consumers. Gas producers say that as many as 62,000 miles of new pipelines are needed by 2050 to fuel electric generators and feed the chemical and manufacturing processes.
“My natural gas plants are paperweights if I don’t have the fuel to run to them,” said Rudy Garza, chief executive of CPS Energy in San Antonio, Texas,
Are these what Gail called stranded assets? No problem, Greta Thumburger will eat a can of beans and corn and supply them with all the natural gas they could ever wish
We have many converging issues:
1. Wind and solar are terrible for the grid because their pricing system tends to make all other types of generation unprofitable. So, nuclear and coal power plants tend to close down.
2. At the same time, there are subsidies for building electric vehicles and for building batteries to power those electric vehicles. Those manufacturing plants need huge amounts of electricity.
3. Natural gas production in the US seems to be going up. But the plan is to ship most of it abroad, at great shipping cost. If it stayed here, and if there were pipelines, it could be used to power extra electricity and heat for the US.
4. But pipelines for natural gas are terribly expensive. In the past, these pipelines have been built through subsidized programs (tax shelters for wealthy individuals). Pipelines take a lot of physical material, and they need a lot of right of ways. This adds a huge long timeline to the whole process.
5. Natural gas normally doesn’t sell for much, so it is hard to justify the huge expenditure for pipelines, (especially at high interest rates).
Putting these issues together, It is fairly easy to see that something has to “break” if politicians mandate things that simply can’t be done. The goofy pricing scheme for wind and solar is a huge part of this problem. Trying to push for electric vehicles cannot work either. There is no way a system of powering them can be built and made profitable for groups selling the electricity. (Someone needs to be monitoring these sites 24/7/365 to see that they are working, and that copper is not being stolen. There needs to be electricity brought to these site also.) Shipping huge amounts of natural gas overseas as LNG is incredibly iffy too, because the buyers cannot afford high prices.
Trying to explain all of this to a Green Groopie is like trying to explain to them that the Rat Juice is dangerous.
Much of North America may face electricity shortages starting in 2024
Over the next several years, many regions of the US and Canada may struggle to ensure a reliable electricity supply amidst soaring energy demand from the tech industry and electrification of buildings and vehicles
More than 300 million people in the US and Canada face the growing possibility of electricity shortages beginning as early as 2024 and continuing to 2028.
New Scientist
Imagine that…of course, it’s only a temporary situation until we build back better
I expect that this forecast is based on projections of how many battery factories and electric car factories will be built, thanks to all of the subsidies built. These things use ridiculous amounts of electricity. We have no way making this much electricity– a detail that those providing the subsidies didn’t think through.
The other problem is producing enough electrical steel, a specialist type of non magnetic steel needed for electrical infrastructure.
“type of non magnetic steel ”
I am an electrical engineer. I know of no use for non magnetic steel in the electrical business. Can you cite an example?
Transformers. Generally, as structural material in places with high magnetic fields. I use several rods, maybe 80 kg altogether, within a meter of 1-3 Tesla magnets.
“Transformers.”
Transformers use magnetic iron for the core and ordinary steel for the tanks.
MRI magnets are not normally considered as part of the electrical system. But I can see where you would want to use non-magnetic materials around them.
Surely turbines in power plants also have non magnetic steel parts. for support generally.
“non magnetic steel parts. for support”
If this is true, I am not aware of it. My knowledge in this area is fairly detailed, but I don’t know everything. I would appreciate a pointer to where they use “non magnetic steel parts. for support”
I actually know for a fact that non mag steel is used in large transformers near power plants. Perhaps not in the backpack sized transformers near homes.
“non mag steel is used in large transformers”
I understand this topic, I have wound transformers (by hand) up to 15 kW. The function of the steel laminations used in transformers is to provide a path for the magnetic flux created by the coils of wire. Transformers use iron that is easily magnetized. A transformer that used non magnetic steel (like stainless) would be non functional.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformer
Bernard Valter in Sweden: The Tea Drinkers Don’t Want to Talk About It
Dec. 12th, 2022, 05:57 pm
This is what I see. Number one, tea drinkers they don’t want to talk about it anymore. They are going silent about this whole thing. This is what came up in the comments, lots of it. Yeah, they don’t want to know about it, you know? This is why it gets so tense when you talk to them about this thing because they don’t want to know. I mean, they took it to get healthy and not to die. Right? And now what happens to people who took it? So they don’t want to know what’s now in their bodies. That’s number one.
And the second one is this. Many of you including myself actually, more or less stopped talking about it to people, to the tea drinkers, because it seems to be useless. Right. And I totally understand. I did it myself. It’s more or less useless. And that they don’t want to hear it, you know? So that’s the thing.
And I have an example of this. Elton John, he left Twitter and this is what he said, “All my life I tried to use music to bring people together yet it saddens me to see how misinformation is being used to divide our world.”
I strongly suspect that this is the problem. He doesn’t want to hear. And if he’s on Twitter today, he will hear about it. Right. And he calls it misinformation. He just doesn’t want to know about it, see? He’s been promoting it. He took it. Now subconsciously he starts to understand. He doesn’t want to hear anything about it. So he’s leaving. That’s what I think is going on.
Now they have problems of course explaining what’s happening to the tea drinkers. Like long cupid. Right? Long cupid. Why is it that the tea drinkers suffer from long cupid? And they see this, right? All these purebloods, they don’t get it. So how do we explain this thing?
And one thing they do is that they come up with new strains. I heard about this one, XBB. It’s a new strain. Right. And you know, media in Asia they call it the nightmare strain. They want some good names for it, right? The nightmare strain. So why is it a nightmare? Well, because it appears hits those who are [makes airquotes with fingers] protected. And it’s spreading fast. It’s a nightmare.
There’s only one nightmare here. The nightmare is that you mess up people’s immune system. That’s what you did. That’s the nightmare.
Alright. Be good.
https://transcriberb.dreamwidth.org/39928.html
And one thing they do is that they come up with new strains. I heard about this one, XBB. It’s a new strain. Right. And you know, media in Asia they call it the nightmare strain. They want some good names for it, right? The nightmare strain. So why is it a nightmare? Well, because it appears hits those who are [makes airquotes with fingers] protected. And it’s spreading fast. It’s a nightmare.
THE PATHOGEN — will be exactly like this … harmless to the A Vaxxers.. deadly the Vaxxers.
Ah, Christmas Eve, what better to do than to plug in the charger, load ‘er up with electrons in preparation of snowy trail cycling.
Here you go Tim:
https://youtu.be/Ymi2nXk83NE?si=1oWGCssMsmSP0YcS
🎅🧑🎄🤶🏯🇯🇵
Very nice! Thanks.
This song brings tears to my eyes. I am a sentimental bugger!
Some Christmas SCHAD
https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/p/akbar-vs-daughter-rushed-to-hospital
The Elders reward their loyal minions https://archive.ph/GzE1A
I wonder what exactly kind of garbage he sells…
Happily ever after stories, often tied in with climate change, seem to be well received by many audiences.
Yes, the US resembles the Roman Empire in so many ways…
Arminius, the Germanic Warlord who Crushed the Romans in the Teutoburg Forest
https://www.labrujulaverde.com/en/2023/12/arminius-the-germanic-warlord-who-crushed-the-romans-in-the-teutoburg-forest/pp
Because Arminius had achieved something as unusual as uniting most of the tribes under his command, including some that were ancestral enemies: Cherusci, Bructeri, Angrivarii, Marsi, Chauci, Sicambri, etc. The total number of warriors is unclear, as some factions supported the Romans and probably did not outnumber their adversaries by much. But the Romans brought with them thousands of civilians (family members, merchants, servants, prostitutes…), and their column stretched for several kilometers, making communication between units difficult and causing very limited mobility, further hindered by the supply wagons.
……Finally, amid a fierce storm, the legionaries went out in two groups trying to get away, but the mass of warriors that fell upon them forced them to adopt the testudo, immobilizing them. There was no way out, and some officers committed suicide to avoid falling into captivity, as it meant torture (amputation of limbs, removal of eyes, and sewing of mouths, for example), before ending up on the sacrificial altar. Varus was one of those who took his own life, although the exact moment is unknown, and some believe it was the night before.
…..Among them was not Varus, whose body was burned except for the head, which Arminius sent to Augustus as a warning. As mentioned earlier, Augustus, temporarily half-mad, was deeply affected by this.
I remember hearing about the US military in Vietnam and the Cong thought it was a travelling circus show …
https://kunstler.com/podcast/kunstlercast-368-a-chat-with-dave-collum-about-his-year-in-review/
also
https://rumble.com/v42e8j4-christmascast-james-kunstler-dave-collum-tom-luongo-tpc-1395.html
Do they talk about JHK orgasms when he sees more brown kids being blown to bits?
Or about Dave Collum getting the rat juice because he wanted to maintain his spending habits?
If not, why should I care about 2 genocidal cowards pretending to care?
I suppose he got played + wanted to keep his tenured gig at Cornell… which makes him a TFI
He is an amateur vs Fast Eddy
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Covid knocked the healthcare system on its ass. The lockdown created a massive backlog of medical procedures while hospitals sat empty. The forced vaccinations elicited early retirements and firings of vaccine-hesitant workers—those unwilling to follow the policies of Dr. Mengele (Tony Fauci) and his bio-bimbo (Debbie Birks). You may notice they are now denying that they served up these policies.
A physician’s assistant at the University of Rochester told me a mandated booster was canceled because they realized that the Rochester facility would lose another 25% of their staff.
Our erstwhile healthcare heroes—doctors and nurses—have noticed that inflation is a problem. They are now striking owing to 16-hour shifts and staffing shortages, which I am told does not help the staffing shortages.5
I finally succumbed to family pressure to get hearing aids. Somebody is going to have to explain to me how $20 worth of hardware can cost $7000. I asked the Woman in the White Lab Coat how I could stuff 10 iPhones in my ears or wrap 25 noise-dampening BOSE headphones around my head for the same price. The hearing-industrial complex smacks of a scam, but I must admit to hearing surreal things. Is that what rain sounds like? Is that what my blinker sounds like? Day one I was in the DMV, and I could hear every keystroke, every mouse click, every conversation. It was like a sci-fi movie.
Yes, it is called high-fidelity audio adapted to your ears shape and frequency response, or lack thereof.
Custom made gear isn’t on the cheap.
BOSE cans… 🤭👎
The same can be said for dental crowns. Those little suckers now costs well over $1300.
Dave
I wondered if the sudden bladder problems2,3 and a steeply rising blood pressure (50 points in the last two years) might trace to the vaccine.
Dave got played…. FE didn’t
hahaha
This year I started the semester debilitated by a 1.5-inch bladder stone to be taken out by Dr. Luke Skywalker and his lightsaber that week. I told my class on Day One of the semester, “no chemistry today” and chatted with them while writhing in pain in a semi-fetal position sitting on a table. I discussed grading policy, study hints and habits, the profoud importance of digitally disconnecting long enough to get work done, and the philosophy of the course. To get ahead of the rumor mill, I also explained why my 2020 cancellation originating from two brawls with national labor unions (UAW and AFT) and the subsequent smear campaigns by the butt-hurt union organizers has made me Google toxic.
I also assured them that I will likely say something that offends them but urged them to talk to me rather than some adult, because I am the only one who actually cares to have that conversation. Well, the call came in later that day: I was told to stay in my lane or risk a mass exodus from the class. After a fusillade of F-bombs—I used F-bombs like authors use a space bar—I prepared for the next lecture. At the end of the 2nd lecture, having made several dozen wisecracks and fully demonstrated my linguistic incontinence, I told the class about my scolding, that Larry Summers is correct about lacking a filter, and that, “if that is gonna offend you, I suggest you drop the course.” (That was the last response my reprimander was looking for.)
The obedient always think of themselves as virtuous rather than cowardly.
~ George Carlin
Dave
You can skip this part, but it is my annual Dear Diary entry, and there is some generally useful content. After years of stellar teaching evaluations with particular enthusiasm focused on my entertaining campfire stories, I started having minor scuffles with the snowflakes. A half dozen years ago I gave a guest lecture for a colleague. While describing my proclivity for not accepting chemical dogma, I alluded to my tendency to not accept conventional wisdom outside academia too. One sentence piqued the students’ angst: “There is something odd about the Las Vegas shootings that is not right; I’m gonna figure that one out.” That’s all it took for five graduate students to converge on the Chair’s office with hurt feelings. I was spot on that one too; the Las Vegas shootings were totally whacked.1 My initial response was, “Fuck ‘em.” But the message is clear: political climate change is serious.
Dave
The RNC is pathetic, but the DNC appears Hell-bent on destroying the Nation; it looks premeditated. By stating that, don’t I risk losing half my audience? No. You’re it. If you haven’t already figured out that Joe is a child molesting, compulsive lying, womanizing rapist with late-stage dementia who sold us out to the Ukrainians and Chinese, I can’t help you. The evidence is out there for the curious. You must at least be wondering why the DNC shows no obligation to serve up a credible candidate for the Nation’s highest office. I am sure many will not agree with these views. Hold those lovely thoughts of yours.
YES! (dave)
So I have given up treading softly. I avoid asterisks to protect the faction of p*ssies who think pussies is an abomination. I’ve also lost patience with the Sharia of the political left taking over the entire system. On occasions where I suggest somebody should get more boosts, this is not out of concern for their well-being.
Dave
Sources and Social Media. Source material is critical. Firstly, nearly all mainstream media is worthless. The serious players have moved to Substack, a platform I may land on at some point in retirement. The censoring is so bad that if you are not ready to hit odd places like Rumble armed with a serious filter, I don’t think you have a chance of lifting the skirt of geopolitics. Censoring is now a multi-billion dollar industry with conferences and trade shows.8
Fact-checkers are useful as a contra-indicator: a large number of fact-checkers tell’s you the lie is a whopper. Wikipedia’s fine for basic facts but as soon as there is a whiff of politics involved, the CIA and FBI are all over it. That is straight from the founder of Wikipedia, Larry Sanger. Given that the three-letter agencies have budgets in the trillions for their dark-ops shit, is there any doubt that they completely control (or at least sanction) the narrative? Throw on heaps of censorship, and we have no chance of getting the straight scoop without archeological levels of digging. I am a huge fan of ZeroHedge. Of course, they get stuff wrong, but they are often first on the scene of the drive-by shootings by the Deep State.
Dave
My views of finance and geopolitics have been profoundly influenced by my career in chemistry in which I have published over 160 papers, which is a solid count. Almost every one of these papers, however, chronicled how elite scientists who were trying to get it right managed to bone it, sometimes quite badly. I developed the rare skill of being able to confront credentialed experts and say with a firm voice, “I think you are full of shit.” I can entertain any idea that does not break the laws of physics, although endorsing it is another matter. I try to pry my Overton Window wide open to observe what I previously could not fathom. I then write to clear my thoughts and, hopefully, to pry your window open a little bit too.
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Dave:
Conspiracy theory is used against anyone who asks questions the government does not want to answer.
~ Tucker Carlson
By now you’ve figured out I am a conspiracy theorist. I believe men and women of wealth and power conspire every day, and you likely gravitated to this review knowing that. I implore you to stop using the term “conspiracy theory” and “conspiracy theorist” pejoratively. When somebody comes at me with that, I wear that badge with honor, but not before I rip their faces off for trying to censor my uncomfortable speech. We know they lie to us all the time; we are simply trying to put the puzzle pieces together.
They do. The conspiration between Leyen and Bourla (contract of at least two parties paid by the taxpayer, that is not informed and could never consent) is officially kept private. If that is not any conspiration, I don’t know what.
Dave:
Maybe the Covid scam and all the associated lies proffered by credentialed experts have you wondering if the credentialed climate experts are lying too. Climate change, in my opinion, is the biggest scam in history. If, by contrast, you are supergluing yourself to roads during rush hour and throwing tomato soup onto masterpieces to save humanity, you suffer Munchausen by progressive and are a member of the biggest cult in history.5 Please—I beg you—when Reverend Jones gives you the nod, drink. (I have returned to climate change again this year, just to top off previous thoughts with some fresh ones and to piss of The Cult.)
I look forward to this every year
If you came out of the Covid pandemic and not figured out that the entire narrative was an exercise in authoritarianism and possibly a largely peaceful depopulation, I think you are pretty lame. If, however, you grasp the Covid story, you probably have also figured out that the CIA whacked Kennedy, 911 was an inside job, and every war in at least a century was started with one or more false flag events. If so, Pat yourself on the back for grasping many big issues. Robbie Parker understands…
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/dave-collums-2023-year-review-down-some-dark-rabbit-holes-part-1
This is a very long article, with a lot of images.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/dave-collums-2023-year-review-down-some-dark-rabbit-holes-part-1
You might want to read the original for context.
There will be a Part 2, “Tomorrow.”
Also, in another link, Fast Eddy provides a link to an interview by Kunstler with Dave Collums.
A face only an orangutan could love.
“Wikipedia’s Definition of a Woman?”
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/woke/wikipedias-definition-of-a-woman/
This is what Wikipedia says now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woman
It is more or less OK, with a normal looking woman.
The thing is …
Just like the TFIs believe the HOOTIES have shut down the canal… they will believe this
https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/climate-clown-show-biden-admin-blames
Not at all clear why people who don’t get vaccinated have anything to do with climate change.
I guess it’s because if you don’t get vaxxed, you will live longer and require more FF energy and contribute more CO2.
In other words, do as Fast Eddy says and get your shots and die. If you are not part of the “solution,” you are part of the “problem.” LOL.
Hey, I churn my oats and turn the cranks. I’m burning a magnitude, if not two, less than the Usual Suspect Hyper Rapacious Primate in IC.
Am I excused from the 💉for my alleged self imposed frugality? What do you reckon Eddy would say, or is it Dave nowadays? But where is HAL?
Never mind. I guess it is what it is both with and without the vax.
However, in the mean time:
YOLO!
HYPERS GONNA HYPER!
(etc.)
🤣👍👍
Just sold the high powered rile and 30 boxes of shells…. All that is left now are two shot guns…. and 1000+ buck shot rounds…
We are winding things down… as BAU winds down.
Still another attempt to stigmatize certain people without reason, just with the purpose to blame them..
He is really a very bad president (‘p’ lowercase letter) and it is a tragedy, first for USA, but also for the world.
So the important question is, what is Ray long and what is he short?
Debt, always debt.
inflation/deflation. If the US can’t borrow, less money chasing more goods, deflation?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/we-are-near-that-inflection-point-billionaire-ray-dalio-warns-america-is-now-borrowing-money-to-pay-debt-service-predicts-debt-will-accelerate-just-to-maintain-spending/ar-AA1lW9W3?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=da2c1cb191e040e391770e556c717daa&ei=11
Dennis L.
If the US can’t borrow money, likely deflation. Lots of unemployment. Cutbacks on a lot of programs, including Medicare and Medicaid.
Debt in de-growth is like asking your mother in law to hang her pearls in the Christmas tree and forget about it.
Biology, always biology.
Whose children will provide here safety net?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a-disproportionate-number-of-black-women-are-kinless-as-they-age-advocates-say-they-deserve-a-social-safety-net-too/ar-AA1lW7lT?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=621aa0f2fbbc46af8c1f7e6d850c857b&ei=11
Volunteers will maybe be hard to find.
We are part of the fabric of the universe, self determination is limited.
Dennis L.
I find it hard to believe that black women in the US lack kin.
https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2015/05/07/family-size-among-mothers/
Black women tend to have more children than white or asian (but fewer than hispanic women).
Black women have siblings. They also have more than two children, on average. They shouldn’t have a huge problem with kin. There also isn’t a big gap between generations. They probably have grandchildren, as well, when they are older.
I’m sure that they are talking about educated blk women.
It is usually educated people that having a hard time reproducing. There is some correlation with good genes, formal education and income but it is weaker than people think.
The issue may be the family structure. Dysfunctional families are not as reliable as other kinds.
In the Book of Ruth, the widows Naomi and Ruth settle among a group of widows, single women or otherwise without spouses. Ruth being a foreigner apparently didn’t become a problem in that community.
Support system among unwed, widowed and/otherwise single women in their late stages existed for a long time, and among blacks they tend to have their own support groups.
Apparently the woman in this case spent most of her younger years taking care of her parents and did not build any ties with other black women with similar circumstances. Educated black women tend to have a hard time finding suitable black men, and a harder time finding similar men outside the black community, so they have a higher likelihood to remain single. So they tended to form groups of their own for a long time.
There are all kinds of approaches that work out:
Churches tend to have a lot of widows in them. Support groups arise naturally within churches.
Sometimes elderly women move in with a sibling.
Many elderly women live with relatives, or in an apartment next to relatives.
ZeroHedge has a write-up of a new book called The Great Taking by David Webb. This is a video about the book, featuring the author:
This is a link to the Zerohedge article:
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/control-system-collapsing-great-taking-looms-globalisms-last-gasp
This is a quote from near the end of the book:
An important point:
“the next, worldwide conflict (“World War III”, in essence) will not be a geo-political struggle of the US vs China, or West vs East, or NATO vs China/Russia: it will be populations against their own governments.”
Thank you, very interesting.
UEP is far more logical… that’s because it IS … the plan
Yes. I’m cold, give me that flag.
That is the reality, Gail. In order to manage a collapse, governments have to become more authoritorian. Sustainability, green energy, even the constant wars are ways they think they’re going to preserve industrial civilization even as the inputs that allow the system to exist will dwindle. They think they will still rule over the public within an industialized civilization with no fossil fuels, and fewer inputs.
They have to become more authoritarian because when The Pathogen is released and billions die they will need those still alive to Do What They Are Told (lockdown wait for food – that never comes)… they need them to know that when they inform them that there are snipers everywhere — and drones… with shoot to kill orders if anyone ventures outside (cuz the plague… it’s for the safety of everyone) … that they are not f888ing around. They are DEAD serious.
And that’s how 8B are going to die – without so much as a whimper.
Excuse me … it’s Xmas Eve day here… and I have to go and prepare the line of blow for Santa
I think we’re agreeing here. Your scenario is one of many possible scenarios. They could also use green energy mandates to trim the her d. No ff will equal d th for a lot of people. This will be blamed on incompetence or a lack of knowledge even though there will be people saying the mandates will mean certain d th for a lot of people. Those people will be ignored for obvious reasons.
It amazes me that anyone can think the herd can be culled… without collapsing BAU.
They think humans can be replaced with machines. That is the plan, any way
Actually that might be a really good article idea for OFW….
Why Reducing Population Would Collapse Civilization and result in Total Global Famine (cuz supply chains would vapourize)
The sticks in that diagram would all fall down
I got thinking about the poem, The One-Hoss-Shay
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THE DEACON’S MASTERPIECE:
OR THE WONDERFUL “ONE-HOSS-SHAY.”
A LOGICAL STORY.
Have you heard of the wonderful one-hoss-shay,
That was built in such a logical way?
It ran a hundred years to a day,
And then, of a sudden, it—ah, but stay,
I’ll tell you what happened without delay.
Scaring the parson into fits,
Frightening people out of their wits,—
Have you ever heard of that, I say?
Seventeen hundred and fifty-five.
Georgius Secundus was then alive,—
Snuffy old drone from the German hive!
That was the year when Lisbon-town
Saw the earth open and gulp her down,
And Braddock’s army was done so brown,
Left without a scalp to its crown.
The whole poem can be read at the link. It is much longer than this.
I am afraid that what happens is that everything fails, more or less simultaneously. The financial system fails; the electricity system fails; governments are overthrown by their local populations. The oil system fails, too, but not necessarily with high prices. This may (or may not) coincide with a religious event of some type.
https://youtu.be/K3b6SGoN6dA
I feel the presence of the devil…. he is upon us.
“War Pigs” from 1970 by Black Sabbath.
This is the rest of the poem. School children were required to memorize the first and last verse of this poem, at one point:
It should be so built that it couldn’ break daown:
—“Fur,” said the Deacon, “’t’s mighty plain
Thut the weakes’ place mus’ stan’ the strain;
‘n’ the way t’ fix it, uz I maintain, is only jest
To make that place uz strong uz the rest.”
So the Deacon inquired of the village folk
Where he could find the strongest oak,
That couldn’t be split nor bent nor broke,—
That was for spokes and floor and sills;
He sent for lancewood to make the thills;
The crossbars were ash, from the straightest trees;
The panels of white-wood, that cuts like cheese,
But lasts like iron for things like these;
The hubs of logs from the “Settler’s ellum,”
Last of its timber,—they couldn’t sell ’em,—
ever an axe had seen their chips,
And the wedges flew from between their lips,
Their blunt ends frizzled like celery-tips;
Step and prop-iron, bolt and screw,
Spring, tire, axle, and linchpin too,
Steel of the finest, bright and blue;
Thoroughbrace bison-skin, thick and wide;
Boot, top, dasher, from tough old hide
Found in the pit when the tanner died.
That was the way he “put her through.”—
“There!” said the Deacon, “naow she’ll dew!”
Do! I tell you, I rather guess
She was a wonder, and nothing less!
Colts grew horses, beards turned gray,
Deacon and deaconess dropped away,
Children and grandchildren—where were they?
But there stood the stout old one-hoss-shay
As fresh as on Lisbon-earth-quake-day!
Eighteen hundred;—it came and found
The Deacon’s Masterpiece strong and sound.
Eighteen hundred increased by ten;
“Hahnsum kerridge” they called it then.
Eighteen hundred and twenty came:—
Running as usual; much the same.
Thirty and forty at last arrive,
And then came fifty, and fifty-five.
Little of all we value here
Wakes on the morn of its hundredth year
Without both feeling and looking queer.
In fact, there’s nothing that keeps its youth,
So far as I know, but a tree and truth.
(This is a moral that runs at large;
Take it.—You’re welcome.—No extra charge.)
First of November—the Earthquake-day.—
There are traces of age in the one-hoss-shay,
A general flavor of mild decay,
But nothing local, as one may say.
There couldn’t be,—for the Deacon’s art
Had made it so like in every part
That there wasn’t a chance for one to start.
For the wheels were just as strong as the thills—
And the floor was just as strong as the sills,
And the panels just as strong as the floor,
And the whippletree neither less nor more.
And the back-crossbar as strong as the fore,
And spring and axle and hub encore.
And yet, as a whole, it is past a doubt
In another hour it will be worn out!
First of November, ‘Fifty-five!
This morning the parson takes a drive.
Now, small boys, get out of the way!
Here comes the wonderful one hoss-shay,
Drawn by a rat-tailed, ewe-necked bay.
“Huddup!” said the parson.—Off went they.
The parson was working his Sunday’s text,—
Had got to fifthly, and stopped perplexed
At what the—Moses—was coming next.
All at once the horse stood still,
Close by the meet’n’-house on the hill.
First a shiver, and then a thrill,
Then something decidedly like a spill,—
And the parson was sitting upon a rock,
At half-past nine by the meet’n’-house-clock,—
Just the hour of the Earthquake-shock!
—What do you think the parson found,
When he got up and stared around?
The poor old chaise in a heap or mound,
As if it had been to the mill and ground!
You see, of course, if you’re not a dunce,
How it went to pieces all at once,—
All at once, and nothing first,—
Just as bubbles do when they burst.
End of the wonderful one-hoss shay.
Logic is logic. That’s all I say.
Steve St Angelo discovered that Michael Palmer MD, may be or probably was the editor of Webb’s book and part of Children’s Health Defense and apparently believes that Nagasaki and Hiroshima were not even nuclear blasts but rather just napalm and mustard gas. Wrote this in his in his book “Hiroshima Revisited. ” Maybe a crack pot. Steve also didn’t have kind words about Catherine Austin Fitts who screwed her co -writer Michael Ruppert who later comitted suicide via self inflicted gunshot wound as he went broke and no one would help him. She wanted him to disclose all his work product for nothing so Fitts could write her book. Joe Rogan in his show July 2023 also promoted a “conspiracy theory” on his show that all the pre Hiroshima nuclear tests were faked.
Bottom line, don’t get too close to any of these “heroes”, you may find out they have hidden agendas. Joe Rogan especially who is trying to sell his show. I don’t think much of him and don’t watch his show. AtomicCentral.com also has some pictures. Apparently the Hiroshima and Nagasaki explosions were so puny compared to the Bikini test site explosions which require indefinite quarantine, that Japanese have been able to re-populate those cities. Hard to believe any of these subsequent nuclear blasts, unlike the moon landings, were faked.
Martin Armstrong also thinks the Great Taking is a “great misconception,” yet Armstrong is clueless about the energy so there is no safe harbor. Steve agrees with much of what Armstrong says but notes that Armstrong fails to take energy, the guarantor of value of future industry, stocks and production (true wealth) into account, and that is his Achilles heel.
Government relies on military for power according to Armstrong. If military does not go along, then the Great Taking won’t matter, as all the stocks, bonds, cash etc won’t be worth anything any way. Fine, give them to the DTCC or whatever the law allows the banks to confiscate according to the Brisbane Act of 2014 under Obama which allows the goverment to confiscate not just paper claims on assets, but your food, ammo, gas, etc if there is an emergency.
IMO, in a crunch, only as long as the military gets paid in some kind of tangible wealth like food , shelter etc will they “obey” whoever is feeding them.
David Webb may conflate a monetary or DTCC collapse with a lack of food, energy, transporation, phsyical shelter and tangibles, which portray a totally different scenario.
I can believe that Nagasaki and Hiroshima were not even nuclear blasts. I visited Hiroshima. The damage was not very great. People are living there. I forget the details, but the after-effects of the bomb were less than I would expect.
I don’t know about these other allegations.
Hiroshima was a small uranium fission bomb, and an air blast not ground detonation so would not expect much damage. However Bikini atolls were plutonium fusion blasts I was told. Those require prolonged quarantine.
But to destroy HIroshima by conventional firebombs would have taken a huge number of planes and any such sorties were not reported by the pilots or part of the flight logs. The other question is what about the witnesses/survivors? A single flash of light could not have come from a single bomb with napalm and mustard gas.
But in the scheme of things, i guess it doesn’t matter any longer as most survivors who might have developed radiation sickness have died off by now.
“were not even nuclear blasts. ”
Gail, that’s as bad as faking the moon landing. The history leading up to bombing Japan is well documented.
Yes, it’s very similar to the faking the moon landings.
Or faking aspects of the Nine-11 narrative.
Or faking the COVID-19 pandemic and faking the vaccines.
1. You don’t need to to actually do it if you can convince almost everybody that it was done as described.
2. The consequences of a real scenario and of a fake scenario perceived as real can be the same.
3. It can be much easier to fake it, especially if it is difficult or impossible to actually make it.
4. Most people, including Keith and Norman, will lap up official narratives as if they were full-cream milk.
I’ve seen some Japanese people react quite emotionally when presented with the supposition that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were burned by napalm and not nukes. Their first assumption is that the suggester is denying that a holocaust took place in those cities, when that isn’t the what is being denied at all.
They find it hard to wrap their heads around the idea that tens or hundreds of thousands of people burned alive for political purposes is tens or hundreds of thousands of people burned alive for political purposes regardless of whether the burning was started off by a nuke, incendiary bombs, or matches.
norm and keith’s motto is… Question Nothing. Trust bbccnn (and Huff)
Why believe in Nuclear Weapons? It’s a ‘known unknown’. You could spend years down that rabbit hole, I wouldn’t waste my time because there is a good chance that they’re lying about them. Never forget…they lie! It’s cheaper that way. Main thing is this: that currently no one feels threatened by nukes. The fear drained out of society decades ago and they replaced it with fears of a different colour. I will go even further to say this: that the real danger of the collapsing narrative is that when nukes are demanded by us, as the final defence, they will become what they have always been….. a ghost in the closet.
It appears that there’s more concern for peaceful use of nuclear reactions than the bombs. The cost (difficulty) of building and maintaining nuclear power plants seems to discourage many people from supporting the construction of them. Many people don’t think nuclear reactors can ever be safe.
They have admitted that the wiring in the old nuclear warheads may have gone bad from sitting in storage for so long. Anything battery powered might be facing a severe battery leak. No one knows how well the warheads are being maintained. We do know they are very concerned about new ones being built and tested by “little” countries like Iran or North Korea. Make of that what you will.
If nukes aren’t real, no reason to get so excited over N Korea and Iran’s attempts to make one. In fact, we would secretly celebrate their wasting of resources.
The people who get excited over N Korea and Iran’s nuclear programs are government officials.
I doubt that it’s a waste of time for Iran or North Korea. A country that can potentially launch a nuclear weapon cannot be easily invaded.
Webb’s book was discussed at some length here on OFW last month after a link to it had been posted by gumtoo
Quite contrary to ZH’s breathless warmongering, the book is about the end game of the credit bubble we are undergoing. It’s sort of a financial UEP which involves the failure of global settlements and counterparties, of bond default and bank insolvency. I’ve referred to it here a number of times as the great Sucking Sound as the collapsed western institutional wealth all magically reappears in the Caymans.
We’ve all watched this financial architecture being implemented with all its compliance hurdles and agreements to terms and conditions too long to ever read, and I’ve wondered the purpose of it all when it’s clear the big fish can swim freely. Why stitch me up? I got nothin like them
I regard it as an alternative preparation scenario for the Elders. In view of the TRUTH that No One Knows the Future, how can any of these ideas be any more than imaginary speculation in the present? It’s entertainment. What we’re doing here, right?
To me, we cannot know the truth of anything beyond the immediate perceptions of our senses. These perceptions form a present time narrative in our mind which speculates as to an imaginary future and runs stories about the past through it’s mind to form a canvas of historical narrative. That’s all we can know. A bunch of stories playing in our consciousness mind.
We have only the present moment in time, but there’s no emergence from the past towards a future. The present state continually dissipates energy and so is not a solid state.
That’s why I love antiquity so much – the sense of plus ça change in the narratives
Yes, I also have it from prior discussion on OFW. I was interested to see it had surfaced on ZH!
You are right. We did talk about this before. Some of the things looked quite familiar.
As much of the extraordinary knowledge this dude has of the fantasy land sociopathic financial system…..and even given his appreciation of the value of land and farms….he appears clueless about energy collapse and human violence.
“he appears clueless about energy collapse and human violence.” I think, probably because he spent so much time in the system, he thinks that they have contingencies in place to avoid those things or make sure those things occur orderly without too much damage to the Elders.
I have a question. Does he ever clarify if he thinks he owns the farmland he has or can the land he owns also be seized by the Creditors?
The minute I think the authorities are too pre occupied to bother……I have a crew that will “assume control” of a huge tract of former farmland………
The herds need more space
and the damn dirt grubbers will leave or be made a permanent feature of the soil profile…….its only karma after all.
Could be fake… who knows https://t.me/leaklive/17406 Certainly DM to see this on the street (nice touch with the church and the bells)
This sort of thing adds to the DM https://t.me/leaklive/17409
Primates in ACTION https://t.me/leaklive/17407
That looked like a nasty snapped ankle. But it’s refreshing to se the Usual Hypers go completely unhinged and deranged in their cars crushing brethren, sistren, rear ends and legs.
Antisocial media is such a blessing enabling the vaxx0r3d up Rapacious Primates sexual dimorphisms and otherwise nasty psychological tendencies. One ponders: What could possibly go wr..?
Oh, never mind. However, in the mean time:
YOLO!
HYPERS GONNA HYPER!
(etc.)
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Road Rage is the evolution of this
https://youtu.be/WufKsOhkTL8