Don’t expect the world economy to resume its prior growth pattern after COVID-19

Most people seem to think that the world economy is going through a temporary disruption, caused by a novel coronavirus. As soon as COVID-19 goes away, they expect the economy will be back to normal. I think that this assessment is overly optimistic. The way I see the situation, the world economy was already having severe growth problems, caused indirectly by resource problems, even before COVID-19 hit.

In a growing world economy, a person might expect that workers would be getting richer, so that they could afford an increasing quantity of goods and services. What we really see is something very different. The number of new automobiles sold was falling in many major countries long before COVID-19 hit, even as population was generally rising. Clearly, something was seriously wrong.

Figure 1. Auto sales for selected countries, based on data of CarSalesBase.com.

As I see the situation, the world has a resource problem. Resources of many kinds, including fresh water, energy products, and minerals of many kinds were becoming more difficult (and expensive) to extract, even before 2020. Substitution might have worked if the problem were only one or two resources, but not with several major resources. Cutting back was the only answer.

Thus, the shutdowns for COVID-19 came at a convenient time, allowing economies that were already doing poorly to shut down. Needless to say, there was no world leader who was willing to explain this hidden issue to the world population. Instead, world leaders used standardized code words such as “we need to move to renewables” or “we need to reduce carbon use by 2050 to prevent climate change.” Unfortunately, the ability to move to alternatives in this time frame is simply an illusion, allowing world leaders to avoid mentioning the serious resource issues that the world economy is really facing.

I expect that within a few months, a new crisis of some sort (perhaps financial) will come along, further reducing resource use. This will happen, whether or not the problem of the novel coronavirus is solved. In this post, I will try to explain the situation.

[1] The world’s economy is a self-organizing system, powered by the laws of physics. It requires a mix of resources, including energy resources, to operate.

The laws of physics require that energy be “dissipated” whenever activities we associate with generating GDP take place. For example, if a person is to drive a truck, he/she will need to eat food for his/her own personal energy. This food is “dissipated” by digestion. If the truck is to transport goods, it will need to burn some type of fuel, such as diesel. This fuel is dissipated by burning. If a computer is to operate, it will need to dissipate electricity. If a room (or a liquid) is to be heated or cooled, some sort of energy dissipation will be required.

The world economy grows in a very orderly manner. It gradually adds population, as more babies are born than people die. All of these people need food and fresh water; they also need some type of housing and clothing to protect them from the elements. Ideally, they need some type of transportation in addition to walking. Businesses are formed to enable access to goods and services that fill these needs. Governments are also formed to provide services used by all and to regulate the system. A financial system is formed to facilitate transactions, among other things.

The world economy cannot slow down and quickly restart. This is especially the case for an economy that had already started slowing, even before the 2020 pandemic. If not enough resources of the right kinds were available to enable true economic growth before the pandemic, it is hard to see how the situation would be very much improved a year later.

One key to understanding how a self-organizing economy works is to understand that the economy is multi-sided. Businesses need to make an adequate profit, to continue in operation. Workers need to earn an adequate wage to raise a family. Customers need affordable prices. Shortages of inexpensive-to-extract resources can lead to many different problems: lack of profitability for producers, or too much wage disparity among workers, or too high prices for customers. Resource shortages can also lead to people with inadequate wages wanting to migrate. They can also lead to empty shelves in stores.

[2] Depleted coal mines near population centers in China have adversely affected the Chinese economy more than it tells the outside world.

China joined the World Trade Organization (WTO) in December 2001. The Kyoto Protocol mandated that 37 industrialized nations cut their greenhouse gas emissions. More than 100 developing countries, including China and India, were exempt from the treaty. This combination of events allowed China to greatly ramp up its economy, building many new roads, factories and housing units from concrete, with little competition from the 37 industrialized economies.

China had very large coal resources, which it ramped up (Figure 2). Of course, this greatly increased world coal consumption, an effect precisely the opposite of the stated purpose of the Kyoto Protocol–to reduce world CO2 emissions.

Figure 2. World and China coal consumption, based on data of BP’s Statistical Review of World Energy 2020. China imported 7.4% of its coal supply in 2019, so China’s coal production would be similar, but it would hit limits a bit sooner and harder.

The problem that China ran into about 2013 was that its coal mines, especially those near population centers, began depleting. The cost of extraction started rising because the thickest coal seams, closest to the surface, were badly depleted. In theory, there was still a great deal more coal available from those mines if the price would rise sufficiently high. Coal from new mines that were more distant from population centers might also be used if the price would rise high enough to include overland transport costs.

Coal prices didn’t rise to match the higher cost of production. If they had risen, they would have raised the cost of many goods manufactured for export, making these industries less profitable. Because coal prices stayed too low for coal producers, over 70% of China’s coal companies were reported to be unprofitable by the first half of 2014.

China closed unprofitable mines and added new mines at more distant locations. China’s coal production has struggled in recent years. A constant problem has been keeping coal prices high enough to cover the rising cost of extraction and delivery to population centers. There are recent indications that coal supply is inadequate: Parts of China experienced rolling blackouts in the winter of 2020-2021, and warnings have been given to expect possible electricity shortages this summer. China has been accepting few coal imports, largely because it wants to keep its local prices sufficiently high that its own coal producers can be profitable.

China uses coal in many ways, including generating electricity, making steel, and manufacturing cement, which is the most important ingredient in concrete. Concrete is used in producing roads, bridges and buildings of all types, including high rise buildings used in many places in China.

Figure 3 shows that China’s cement production fell at a time similar to that at which coal production “flattened out.” This would not be surprising if a shortage of coal led China to cut back on its use of cement in order to save coal for electricity production.

Figure 3. Cement production for the World and China based on USGS data.

China, like other countries, has been seeing its population rise. Figure 4 shows coal and cement amounts for China on a per capita basis. This approach shows that, viewed on a per person basis, both coal consumption and concrete production have been falling since about 2013-2014. In fact, coal consumption began to fall slightly before cement production, suggesting that the fall in coal consumption is the cause of the fall in cement production.

Figure 4. Cement production from the USGS and coal consumption from BP’s Statistical Review of World Energy 2020, divided by population from the World Population Prospects 2019 by the United Nations.

[3] A decrease in new home building in the United States after 2008, as well as the recent difficulty in ramping construction back up again, are further evidence that the world is reaching resource limits of some kind.

Figure 5. New US privately owned single-family housing units divided by US population, multiplied by a constant. This gives a measure of per capita growth in new single-family housing units. Chart prepared by the St. Louis Federal Reserve.

Figure 5, above, shows that the number of new single-family housing units, relative to population, dropped dramatically after late 2005, early 2006. (This was when US Federal Reserve target interest rates rose, leading to higher borrowing costs for both builders and purchasers.) New home building plunged before and during the Great Recession. Building of new units has not ramped up very much, since then.

Even in 2020 and early 2021, the number of new units being started is very low by historical standards. It certainly wouldn’t be surprising if a lack of resources is part of what is depressing new home production. It may also be causing the spurt in resource prices (for example, lumber and copper) when new-home production does try to ramp up.

[4] World oil production seems to be falling for the same reason that China’s coal production stopped growing: Prices are too low for producers because of depletion issues. Oil producers cannot make an adequate profit, so they are reducing production.

Figure 6. World oil production through 2020 based on data of the US Energy Information Administration.

World crude oil production was at its highest level ever in 2018. It has fallen ever since.

Figure 7 shows that oil production has been falling in many parts of the world in recent years.

Figure 7. Crude and condensate oil production for selected areas of the world, based on data of the US Energy Information Administration.

The shining star of crude oil production, at least until recently, has been the United States with its shale oil production.

Figure 8. US crude and condensate oil production for the 48 states, Alaska, and for shale basins, based on data of the US Energy Information Administration.

Unfortunately, with low prices, US shale oil is unprofitable. Shale production fell in 2020, and indications for the year 2021 are down as well.

Worldwide, the oil industry seems to require a price of $120 per barrel or more to make investment in new production profitable, and current prices are far below this. Part of this high price is required to provide adequate tax revenue for oil exporting countries that are dependent on this revenue.

[5] Relative to population, worldwide oil and coal consumption reached its highest level in 2007. It has fallen recently.

Figure 9. World per capita energy consumption, separated between “oil + coal” and all other. Data for 2019 and prior based on BP’s Statistical Review of World Energy 2020. Figures for 2020 reflect percentage changes anticipated by the International Energy Agency in its Global Energy Review 2021.

Figure 9 shows that on a per capita basis, combined oil and coal consumption reached its highest level in 2007 and dipped during the Great Recession. It reached somewhat of a plateau in the 2011 to 2013 period, but started slipping in 2014 and had fallen ever since. Those who follow oil prices closely will notice that combined oil and coal consumption per capita tends to be high when oil prices are high relative to other goods; consumption tends to be low when oil prices are low. The lower per capita oil and coal consumption since 2007 would be expected to hold back the production of “goods” of many kinds, including houses, automobiles, roads and electrical transmission lines.

The “All Other” category is really not a stand-alone category. It depends on oil and coal for its pipelines and electrical transmission, among other things. Without concrete bases, it would be difficult to have wind turbines. Solar panels without steel supports wouldn’t work well either. In theory, if a huge amount of transition were done, perhaps steel and concrete could be produced in reasonable quantities with only the “All Other” types of energy, but someone would need to figure out precisely how this could be accomplished, including the timeframe required.

[6] Inadequate fresh water supplies are a problem in many parts of the world.

The standard approach to getting fresh water has been to tap underground aquifers and tap them at rates far greater than they are refreshed. In some places, this leads to saltwater intrusion; in others, it leads to a falling water table. Some examples of areas with water problems include California, Saudi Arabia, India, China, and Cuba.

There are ways to work around these problems:

  • Digging deeper wells
  • Piping fresh water from a distance, nearly always uphill
  • Desalination

Implementing any of these workarounds for water shortages takes energy of different kinds, mostly coal (to make steel) and oil (for transporting goods and extracting metal ores). These workarounds make the cost of fresh water higher. Higher water costs are especially a problem for agriculture and for poor families, struggling with budgets that cover little more than the price of food and water.

If fixes for the fresh water supply problem cannot be found, irrigation will need to be cut back. Such a change would likely lead to a fall in world food supply.

[7] We are probably kidding ourselves if we think that production of semiconductor chips can be ramped up significantly in the future.

China is now a major producer for rare earth minerals, and it is practically the only processor of rare earth minerals. Semiconductor chips are created using rare earth minerals, water and huge amounts of heat in an exceptionally clean environment. The leading producer of chips is Taiwan, using raw materials from China. There is a long lead time required for building new factories. My concern arises because of the resource issues China and the rest of the world is facing.

We use semiconductor chips in many things, including computers, cell phones, automobiles and “smart” appliances. Without a ramp up in semiconductor chip production, many high-tech dreams for the future will likely remain only dreams.

[8] With a falling supply of coal and oil per capita and inadequate fresh water in many parts of the world, we have already reached the point where some types of “optional” activities need to be cut back.

An early optional activity that was cut back on was recycling. Oil prices fell in 2014, making the recycling of many types of goods, especially plastics, non-economic because the resale value of recycled products dropped with oil prices. China cut back greatly on its recycling efforts, effective January 1, 2018. Other countries have followed suit. China’s cutbacks on recycling allowed it to save its coal supplies (which were no longer growing, see Figures 2 and 4) for other activities that had the possibility of being more profitable.

In early 2020, cutbacks associated with the pandemic gave the world economy some “breathing room” with respect to resource shortages. Cutbacks in travel left more oil for other uses. Oil prices could drop back. This was especially helpful to countries that are big importers of oil, such as those in Figure 10, below. It is not surprising that some of the countries with the biggest oil import problems have been the most enthusiastic about travel cutbacks related to COVID-19.

Figure 10. Quantity of oil imported for selected countries, calculated in barrels of oil per person per year. Oil imports determined based on data from BP’s Statistical Review of World Energy 2020; population is from World Population Prospects 2019 by the United Nations.

[9] The world economy has a very serious resource problem. There seem to be three different approaches to hiding the problem, none of which will really solve the problem.

The serious problem that the world economy is encountering is the fact that the supply of both coal and oil are running short, especially when viewed on a per capita basis. The world is also very short of fresh water. China is affected as much, or more than, other countries by these problems. As a result, China’s future growth prospects are likely quite low, even though few are expecting this change. Without a continued strong forward “pull” from China, the world economy may be headed for “collapse,” a condition which has affected many civilizations in the past.

There seem to be three different approaches to doing something about the world’s resource limits problem, without mentioning the nature of the real underlying problem:

[a] Develop a “fear of future climate change” story by creating models that assume we have huge amounts of fossil fuels that can be burned in the future, even though the evidence is very much the opposite: We are “running out” of coal and oil right now, but in a different way than economists have theorized (low price, rather than high price). At the same time, argue that a transition to renewables (particularly intermittent wind and solar) is possible in the next 30 years. The fact that essential minerals for such a change, including copper and lithium, are themselves in short supply relative to the incredibly large quantities required, is overlooked. No one stops to calculate the true cost, measured in energy products and other materials, required by such a transition, either.

[b] Create a “fear of the coronavirus” story, and use it to keep people inside and away from traveling as much as possible. Emphasize the possibility of mutations. If people cut back on traveling, it saves oil. If they cut back on eating out and large celebrations such as weddings, it reduces food wastage. If a pandemic takes place, politicians can use it as an excuse to mitigate problems of many kinds:

  • Reduce the need for imported oil, by keeping citizens at home
  • Keep factories closed, without disclosing that the factories could not really operate at full capacity because of inadequate orders or missing raw materials
  • Use shutdowns to keep order in areas disrupted by uprisings related to low wages
  • Hide the problem of many failing stores and businesses behind a new “temporary” problem
  • Give the politician a new sense of control with new rules related to the epidemic

It is disturbing that back in 2010, the Rockefeller Foundation was looking at using pandemics to control people when the foundation was examining possible workarounds for too large a population relative to resources.

[c] Hide the existing resource problem with more debt, to the extent possible. In fact, having a circulating coronavirus has assisted in this effort because everyone can see the need for more debt on a temporary basis, “until this problem goes away.” Of course, the resource problem is not going away, which means the world is likely headed for serious financial problems when the economy tries to ramp up again. See my post, Headed for a Collapsing Debt Bubble.

[10] My expectation is that the world economy will try to bounce back from this pandemic, but it won’t really be able to bounce back.

There really aren’t enough resources of any kind to pull the world economy much farther forward. A day of reckoning seems to be coming, probably in the next few months. The financial system looks like it is the weakest link. If the world economy dramatically slows, borrowers will not be able to repay debt with interest. There may be rapid shifts in currency relativities, disrupting derivatives markets. International trade will become less and less possible, perhaps taking place only among a few trusted partners.

We seem to be headed for a rapidly changing world economy, and unfortunately not for the better.

About Gail Tverberg

My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
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3,576 Responses to Don’t expect the world economy to resume its prior growth pattern after COVID-19

      • There is at least a little data aimed at seeing if immunized nursing home patients can get COVID-19 without symptoms in the first eight weeks after getting their first immunization.

        The nursing home information in the NEJM that I commented on earlier compared two groups: immunized patients and non-immunized patients. The number of COVID-19 cases went down at about the same rate in the two groups. The rate of asymptomatic cases was high in both groups.

        The NEJM article is at this link:
        https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2104849

        There is also an appendix, with more information and charts:
        https://www.nejm.org/doi/suppl/10.1056/NEJMc2104849/suppl_file/nejmc2104849_appendix.pdf

        This is the article’s primary chart that I made a PNG out of:
        https://ourfiniteworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Incidence-of-COVID-19-infections-in-Nursing-Home-Patient-NEJM.png

        In the chart, The rows that seem to be comparable are the first four rows (vaccinated individuals, followed as they gradually became fully vaccinated, and the two weeks after that) and the second four rows (unvaccinated individuals, followed during the same period). The start date was February 15, 2021.

        In the first two weeks after the first dose, 4.5% of the vaccinated individuals tested positive and 4.3% of the unvaccinated individuals tested positive. Vaccination seems to have worked slightly the wrong direction.

        In the second two weeks after the first dose, 1.4% of the vaccinated tested positive and 1.7% of the unvaccinated tested positive. Here the results came out in the expected direction

        At 4 weeks, a second dose was given to the vaccinated group. In the two weeks after that, 1.0% of the vaccinated group tested positive for COVID-19, while only 0.4% of the unvaccinated group tested positive. This again goes the wrong direction, with the vaccinated group getting more positive tests.

        Finally, in the last two weeks of the study, 0.3% of the vaccinated group tested positive and 0.3% of the unvaccinated group tested positive. The community spread was decreasing, so this may have been the reason for the fall.

        Or, if nursing home residents were spreading COVID-19 to other residents, I suppose the greater share of immunized residents could have reduced the overall spread. Thus, a “herd immunity” effect might be happening. Of course, many COVID-19 cases are expected to be brought in by staff members, so this would make the herd immunity argument less likely.

        The study only found 9 cases (0.1%) of the total who were fully vaccinated and had symptomatic COVID-19. Of these, two were hospitalized. As far as I can see, this is not much different from the result for the same time period for the unvaccinated group. It shows 2 cases (0.1%) with symptomatic infection.

        The share of those of COVID-19 cases without symptoms is high in both the vaccinated nursing home patients and the unvaccinated nursing home patients.

        • D. Stevens says:

          Does this mean the vaccine works poorly or the test for C19 works poorly?

  1. StarvingLion says:

    Massive Blaze Engulfs Tehran Refinery Just Hours After Sinking Of Iranian Warship

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/massive-blaze-engulfs-tehran-refinery-just-hours-after-sinking-iranian-warship

    • Wow! It doesn’t sound like too many details are known yet.

    • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

      to push oil prices higher? No spike in prices, and that makes sense since these two events wouldn’t have much impact on the world oil market. So, was it Israel? I will guess that they will be blamed tomorrow.

      • Sam says:

        It seems like too much of a coincidence; if I was your neighbor and we got into a very heated argument and I threatened you and your family and a couple of weeks later your car was on fire in the driveway and broken windows in your house……who would you think it was???? Israel does not want Iran to have any nuclear at all….and they have said so many times

        Markets are waiting to see if Iran reacts

        • Xabier says:

          That’s why one should wait years before taking revenge, and serve the dish very cold, as the proverb says……

  2. Mike B. says:

    From Seamus: Humans are pathetic and despicable in the main. Those who think they will find ultimate happiness and meaning by bringing a child into this sinking ship, even more so.
    ———————-
    Correct. The creepy tone of those who do not think suffering is **that** important reminded me of this quote from the ultimate realist:

    “So many vaginas, stomachs, cocks, snouts, and flies, you don’t know what to do with them . . .  shovelsful!   But hearts? Very rare! In the last five hundred million years, too many cocks and gastric tubes to count. But hearts? Only on your fingers!”   Louis-Ferdinand Celine

    • I notice those making the comments are not mothers, however.

      • nicely pointed out Gail

        watch any nature programme concerning male/female interaction, and it is invariably the female who makes the ultimate choice about reproduction

        the male does what is required of him

        take away the window dressing and humans are no different

  3. StarvingLion says:

    Banana Republic: See AMC and GME

  4. Marco says:

    Collapse soon? Really peak of markets Will be end of july? And Y10 and inflaction Will crash economy? I would like to read more about that

    • Sam says:

      Me too! More economical analysis of our situation and less dramatic diatribes!! It really sinks this place to the bottom running out the thinking people

    • StarvingLion says:

      Worthless shit is skyrocketing…a sure sign of impending collapse.

    • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

      Collapse soon? Of course not. Peak markets in July? Of course not. TPTB need rising markets, so any randomly picked near term point in time will likely be higher than today.

    • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

      Y10? The US 10 year is 1.59% and on a plateau since March. Looks good to me, no worries there. Inflation? Inflation! It’s not a problem now, but could be someday. Inflation of essentials can be a good thing since more money will move to essential subsystems and away from non-essential subsystems, thus helping to ensure that the essential subsystems keep running, Unfortunately as spending on non-essentials decreases, this will cause massive job losses in those sectors. Eventually there will be a smaller minority of workers who will be unable to support the unemployed majority. In this scenario, the entire economy may swiftly collapse. That scenario may take a few years or more to arrive, but it’s on the way.

      • Sam says:

        There is more to the economy than a 10 year measure on the treasury….we are running massive debts every year…..we need to pass a infrastructure bill soon or the economy will stall mid summer…which I think is a good thing….a recession here and there would allow BAU to go on longer. But what we have now is not going to work without the economy running at full capacity its not good……

        I have heard that to try and get a passport in the U.S is almost impossible as they have so many applications that they can’t keep up! So people are gearing up for travel all over the world….then thow in an infrastructure plan and boom oil will run until……….it crashes just like 08 all over again except this time the FED has already been way involved and the government has already borrowed a massive amount.

        My state got more in COVID relief than they know what to do with so they are sending out notices that they will pay $2200 a month six months back and one year forward plus pay all of your other bills. Now how do I get fired….and where did I put that passport?

        David I love your optimism but it seems to be like the ones who are hoping that COVID never goes away….they are emotionally attached to what they want to happen…..The vaccine will work and covid will go away…kinda like noro virus…just linger in the background. Yes I want to believe and if I only watch CNN maybe they will program me to believe that this economy can go on forever! And there will be no price to pay and we can just pick up where we left off…..

        • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

          I try to look at what’s really happening, and go from there. I agree with what Gail’s latest post is titled: don’t expect prior growth. But 10 year is in a good place, oil prices are in a good place, FF use is down but only 5 to 10 %, and energy is the one ring that rules them all. IF things get really bad, I’ll say oh look things are really bad. Right now it’s like oh look we’re near the edge of a cliff. I’m just a slow Doomer who thinks that doom is certain by the 2030s, but uncertainty remains for the 2020s.

          • Sam says:

            I see what you are saying and I concur…..I do however see some sort of depression or recession fairly soon….maybe a massive decrease in housing prices or something of that effect. Ten years is a long time when we are where we are now….Right now there is not enough t-bills in the system…the FED is having the banks buy the t-bills because they need collateral. It is still a problem not a smooth running machine. The banks need to lend money….they are choking on all the money that they have…but no one want to borrow…

            • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

              soon there will be more recession years than growth years. 2021 looks like it will be up, only because it’s a partial rebound from the 2020 disaster. I would guess 2022 will be a recession year also.

            • NomadicBeer says:

              I wonder if anybody has information on how Japan or Italy or UK, for example handled 20 years of slow/no growth and deflation?

              It might be possible that like David says, the gov can juggle the printing, the inflation, the oil prices and production so that in 2030 the oil consumption might be half of what is now but the economy is still holding.

              Italy’s economy decreased 30% in the last 20 years.
              UK similar?

              Sam, can you point to a link about your state giving away money? That might be socialism (US style) – I think that’s what kept Italy at least from collapsing while the economy is contracting.

            • VFatalis says:

              It’s amazing what an economy can do with massive debt, nice promises and blind faith

            • Seamus says:

              “I wonder if anybody has information on how Japan or Italy or UK, for example handled 20 years of slow/no growth and deflation?”
              -NomadicBeer

              It is one thing for the Empire’s satellite states to experience slow economic growth, it is another thing entirely for the Empire’s own domestic economy to slow down.

            • Student says:

              For those who are asking what is the situation in Italy, I can say that we are walking on a very thin line. We are standing just because Germany is giving its approval to go on with debts, but Germany is already saying that Italy needs to come back on the right path. At the same time Italy, in order to have money and external approval, is applying as the top-class child the Covid-19 directives for: vaccines, green pass and great reset. Therefore, it would probably be better to hope that Germany will stop giving any approval to us in order to get out from this unsustainable situation.

              Please see this article:

              https://www.byoblu.com/2021/06/03/italia-riduci-il-debito-altrimenti-ci-saranno-pressioni-esterne-la-minaccia-di-schauble-in-stile-padrino/

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  6. DB says:

    Epidemiologists have long known that passive reporting systems lead to underestimation. The author of this news piece refers to some relatively recent studies indicating massive underestimation for the VAERS adverse effects reporting system for vaccines: https://www.revolver.news/2021/06/revolver-part-one-covid-vaers-deaths-cover-up/.

    Of course, it doesn’t really take a study to realize this — it’s almost self-evident.

    • I would agree that underreporting is almost self-evident.

      There is recent Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) Guidance saying that employers no longer need to report side effects of vaccines. https://www.mondaq.com/unitedstates/health-safety/1074974/eeoc-releases-vaccine-guidance-beltway-buzz-may-28-2021-

      OSHA Does About-Face on Vaccine Recording. In other OSHA news, in April 2021 the Buzz discussed OSHA’s guidance on when employees’ adverse reactions to COVID-19 vaccines were work-related and therefore recordable in the employer’s injury and illness logs. OSHA has now reversed this guidance, stating that it will not require employers to record workers’ COVID-19 vaccine side effects through May 2022. OSHA reasons that it “does not wish to have any appearance of discouraging workers from receiving COVID-19 vaccination, and also does not wish to disincentivize employers’ vaccination efforts.”

      • Azure Kingfisher says:

        That’s absolutely fascinating, Gail. Thanks for sharing.

        If the “vaccines” are so safe, then why in the hell do they get an exemption when it comes to OSHA reporting through May 2022? Where’s the confidence in these rapidly produced miracles of science?

        Just how low will the bar for the “vaccines” be set?

        Meanwhile, Israel is now evaluating whether there’s a correlation between the Pfizer jab and myocarditis.

        • Med Page Today and various other sites have been commenting on the OSHA change, in order to try to get more people to take the vaccines.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        And still… the goy cannot sense the wolves…. fascinating

      • Xabier says:

        Most interesting, Gail.

        An admission, of course, that the truthful and full reporting of adverse effects would tend to discourage any intelligent person from being vaccinated at this stage and lead to a halt in programmes.

        In other words, any sensible person would run a mile from them…..

        I feel sorry for those who were trusting enough to be vaccinated early on without the adverse data on hand, and for the perhaps reluctant workers who are now being criminally coerced by employers, unions, etc.

    • Mike Roberts says:

      Don’t forget, though, that the study (which wasn’t peer reviewed) was looking at a system to automatically report adverse reactions (EPS:VAERS), not at VAERS itself. The study has no data, that I could see, so difficult to determine its usefulness for analysing VAERS reports. It doesn’t appear to cover EUA vaccines or look at how a vaccination campaign startup (as opposed to continuing vaccination schedules over decades) may affect reporting. But, yes, under-reporting is to be expected, though even that study suggested severe events are much more likely to be reported.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Long term studies??? I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are struggling with the term…

        A long-term experiment is an experimental procedure that runs through a long period of time, in order to test a hypothesis or observe a phenomenon that takes place at an extremely slow rate. What duration is considered “long” depends on the academic discipline.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-term_experiment

      • Tim Groves says:

        I would agree that severe events are much more likely to be reported because that’s what common sense would indicate. But I’ve seen lots of anecdotal stories online indicating there are cases where doctors are not reporting to VAERS even when requested to do so by people injured or relatives of people killed by the jab, cases where doctors reports are rejected by the VAERS system. I’ve also read of nursing home operatives not reporting the deaths of residents after vaccination to VAERS. Then there’s the case of Joel Kallman that I posted on yesterday, a 54-year-old Oracle exe who died reportedly of Covid–19 two months after being vaccinated. And there are many more like him. How many, we just don’t know.

        • Xabier says:

          What we do know, however, even with this imperfect data, is that these vaccines are clearly not safe enough to recklessly jam into 100% of the population.

          They do many things short of death to people which are horrendous and crippling.

  7. Yoshua says:

    Volatility is getting ready to explode.

    These are of course just technical charts. Do they show that there’s something blowing up in the background that we are unaware of? I think so…but I can’t prove it…or say what it is that is blowing up.

    Something is going on with the Repo market, inflation spikes in food, energy and commodities…

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E24A7nRWEAQJrwL?format=png&name=large

    • The chart does look worrisome. It is especially worrisome when a person thinks about the problems the commodity price spikes and the relatively high interest rates.

      The WSJ has an article The Economic Recovery Is Here. It’s Unlike Anything You’ve Seen.

      In the article, there is a chart of current consensus GDP forecasts by WSJ economist. They are forecasting that future US GDP growth will actually be higher than the trend line of recent economic growth before the 2020 disruption. These forecasters are almost certainly to be disappointed.

  8. @Lidia

    Apparently your husband’s family felt nothing wrong about keeping “Poor Gino” for life and felt absolutely nothing about his welfare or so.

    Actually my family had plenty of servants back in the 1920s-1945 until the Russians arrived and ended the practice. My family was known to be quite harsh against them, about which I feel nothing wrong to this day.

    Being a servant will probably be one of the better option for the proletariat in the future.

    • Xabier says:

      However, as they were Italians his lot in life might not have been so bad: these things vary according to culture, and the character of the family.

      Not to have any share in the family property or be able to marry was common in peasant families in many parts of Europe. It’s possible to have dignity without being ‘free’ or indeed owning anything.

      When a friend finally made it to the village in Poland his family had owned (among other properties, including one of the greatest palaces in the Crimea) the few remaining old people wept with joy to see him, so he knew that his mother, the Countess, who fled in 1939, had at least left a good memory behind her.

      What matters is not the past, but whether we are going to behave honourably today.

      • DB says:

        Exactly, Xabier. And often when people try to right the wrongs of the past, they behave dishonorably in the present.

    • Tim Groves says:

      There is still the point that Kulm feels nothing wrong with his/her family abusing their servants because he/her saves all his/her disapprobation for Britain, which has done more than any other country to build civilization and eliminate harshness to servants and cruelty to dogs and horses at every turn. No doubt, Kulm finds it convenient to blame Britain’s progressiveness over the centuries for Eastern Europe’s backwardness.

      • NomadicBeer says:

        Tim, please, enough with this ridiculous nationalism.
        Britain used to cut Indian women’s thumbs off so they cannot compete with the Brithis clothing industry.
        Empires are a dirty business. I admire the Romans but I will never say they were nice or “civilized”. They were evil cunning MFs that killed, stole and raped their way to the greatest civilization the world has ever seen.

        • Seamus says:

          ” They were evil cunning MFs that killed, stole and raped their way to the greatest civilization the world has ever seen.”

          The fact that they killed, stole and raped shows they weren’t civilized at all but merely pirates and thugs who wore coats and top-hats.

          • NomadicBeer says:

            I agree Seamus – I accept that my enjoyment of Roman architecture and literature is based on their horrible treatment of slaves and murder of conquered people.

            Same applies to the British or American empires. Yes, I do feel guilty sometimes for living closer to the center and thus having blood on my hands.

    • They did care about Gino’s welfare and he was a trusted part of the family, materially better off than he would have been otherwise. I thought I was just being descriptive, not making a case for such a situation or against it.

      “Poor” so&so is just an Italian convention when speaking of the dead, like saying “dear, departed” so&so. It’s not a monetary indication.

      Feudal aspects of Italy remained even after the arrival of communism, The ideas of a “natural” nobility, and serfs who “belong to” the land and its owners, were quite present in the town where I lived, despite the mayor being from one communist party and the opposition from the other communist party.

      Because we were living in a detached house, some neighbors thought we must be important, and when we moved away the wife cried. We barely knew these people and were cordial with them, but apparently they had viewed us as the “lords” of that “manor” and our leaving was throwing them into some kind of existential crisis, because who would replace us? That was still part of the culture as of 2012.

  9. Yoshua says:

    The traders are expecting the T10Y yield to spike and pop the bubble and crash everything.

    The Fed – “BRAINARD SAYS GOAL OF FED’S ASSET PURCHASES IS TO PUT DOWNWARD PRESSURE ON LONGER-TERM RATES”

      • Sam says:

        Can the Fed keep rates low forever? Or are they smoke and mirrors?

        • It looks like the Fed runs into liquidity problems with the current approach. Perhaps they can figure out something else.

          • theblondbeast says:

            The reverse repo activity from the FED’s standpoint is more of an attempt to establish a floor for interest rates to keep them from declining, not the other way around. The counterparty is typically a money-market participant in need of short term collateral and experiencing lack of interested or qualified borrowers.

            • So, if Fed loses out, interest rates would fall. In fact, the might actually go into negative territory, to reflect the actual level of returns people are earning.

              When did the Fed move from bringing down interest rates to trying to keep interest rates from falling too low? 2020? Or earlier?

            • theblondbeast says:

              I think it was around the end of 2020. There was talk of impending yield curve control and I believe the FED talked about being prepared to start this. The narrative was that the bond markets would demand higher rates.
              This didn’t happen and the FED never had to implement YCC.

              So the the prime broker/dealer banks deposit overnight reserves and gain nominal interest (IOER, interest on overnight reserves). But foreign parties and non-broker institutions don’t have access to this and have to use the ON-RRP which is 0.0%. If this facility were not available then the overnight rates for this sector would now be negative already.

            • Sam says:

              The Fed needs people to borrow money. Since that not happening they are going to government and hedge funds? Maybe that’s what is pushing housing prices and commodities?

  10. Fast Eddy says:

    hahaha… Fauci is a clown

    • This interview seems to have taken place back when Fauci was advocating masks forever. If the danger was mostly from wild variants, why didn’t he say, “We likely will need to have people use masks again, if a variant that seems to be a problem should have to come along.”

  11. Fast Eddy says:

    An Exclusive Interview with Dr Roger Hodkinson – “When the History of This Madness Is Written, Reputations Will Be Slaughtered and There Will Be Blood in the Gutter “

    https://mark-skidmore.com/2021/05/25/an-exclusive-interview-with-dr-roger-hodkinson-when-the-history-of-this-madness-is-written-reputations-will-be-slaughtered-and-there-will-be-blood-in-the-gutter/

    • Not really. No one was punished for the Irish famine, and the Viscount of Trevelyan still exists. I don’t know whether Fauci has descendants but if he has they will continue to reign as nobles in the medical industry.

      • injustice can only be rectified if people (collectively) care

        the Irish famine was a terrible injustice on the Irish people back in the 1840s, especially as Ireland was producing quite enough food to support itself.

        It was deliberate policy

        fast forward to the 20th c., long after the British had left, Ireland allowed thousands of illegitimate Irish babies to starve to death in (religious funded) so called mother and baby homes, because according to their twisted religion, they had been conceived in sin, so better they we allowed to die.
        They were just dumped in holes in the ground

        The Irish allowed this injustice to happen. Nobody cared

        It was a deliberate policy

        • NomadicBeer says:

          “It was a deliberate policy”
          Thank you Norman, that is yet another example from history where the oligarchs perpetrate genocide with the cooperation (or at least without pushback) from people.

          But of course today we are “evolved” so nothing like that can happen. I feel better now.

          • I wasn’t in any respect concurring with the odd notion that Fauci is trying to commit genocide on a global scale—so far no one has put forward a reason why he would want to do that, or anyone else for that matter

            It is nonsense. Don’t hang thoughts on my words where they have no hook.

            the Irish famine was brought about because the landowners (land being the sole energy resource available) didn’t care that people died, so long as their Irish acres could be rendered into cash. (exporting food)

            No law existed to prevent it. The same with the highland clearances of the same period. The landowners could do what they wanted with the land they owned. Sheep made more money than people

            Which is what I’ve been banging on about for years.

            We seek to turn the planet into cash .

            The Irish nuns had a different reason. They were jesusfreaks–obsessed with self righteousness. To that end they willingly murdered those who did not ‘conform’–ie babies conceived in sin.

            That was still going on until the 70s, 80s or later.

            I can only suggest that the words and deeds of the current crop of bible belters in the USA (and elsewhere) might be of some concern in that respect.

            they want a theocratic dictatorship that would run the country by biblical law. The horrors of enforced religion are very real. Don’t dismiss it.

            The Irish nuns and priests were enforcing religion on gullible fools.

            This is where your fear for the future should lie–not endless fatuous vaxnonsense.

            As energy resources decline–and they will, a theocratic dictatorship will be inevitable. Vaxxing genocide will be the least of our worries. Trust me.

            Look at the mob who used to surround Trump at the WH…d’you think any of that crew would flinch at ‘punishing sinners’ in a biblical sense. If the political climate allowed it?
            Or if the invasion of Jan 6th had run the course they intended?

            they were just harmless sightseers and would never really have harmed anyone?

            • Xabier says:

              That you think the great threat comes from primitive Bible-bashers’ is itself ‘fatuous’: what is the root of this obsession of yours?

              Catholic fanatics tried to murder my grandfather in 1936, and killed my great-uncle by forcing him into their army, but I don’t get so worked up about it as you do!

              The Techno-tyranny which is currently being imposed will be built on the new, atheist, hypocritical, Green ‘theology’ – and has begun in most places by closing churches for much of the past year – haven’t you noticed?

              The Pope and the Vatican Bank are wholeheartedly behind the Great Re-set, digital transformation, and mass injections.

              Please do try to do some research into this Globalist nightmare which is unfolding, instead of jeering at those who do take the trouble to inform themselves as to what is really afloat.

              The Transhumanist Globalists are the ones building the digital prison for your grandchildren, not religious loonies.

              To understand their plans, start with Alison McDowell.

            • quote:
              The Pope and the Vatican Bank are wholeheartedly behind the Great Re-set, digital transformation, and mass injections.

              where do you dredge up this stuff? Forgive my laughter–I can think of no other response.

              ‘research’ means reading stuff put together in some kids back bedroom usually.

              Amusing to try to imagine just what the ‘great reset’ is, or what a ‘trans humanist globalist’ is. Where on earth you find these words.

              bandied about all the time–total blank on the definition of it—could be because it just sounds knowledgeable, as opposed to fatuous.

              No concept of anything it might entail

              So I’ll give you a helping hand shall I?……

              Sometime in the next decade (maybe) human society is going to be brought to a screeching halt, then by forces as yet undetermined, will be collectively ‘forced’ down a different path of economic existence, which is some way will involve a mystic elite–Gates, Bezos Musk et al again, taking control to make us into serfs in order to support their chosen lifestyle. Are they the transhumanist globalists you speak of?

              Bezos is having new yacht built right now I understand. I have it on unimpeachable authority (a mate of mine works in the boatyard) that the portholes are removable. There are benches just inside each porthole with chains attached. Calculations have proved that 100 (grateful) galley slaves each side will get the boat up to a decent speed. Bezos watches Ben Hur a lot… And practices on the drum.

              Not jeering at all this guff–just prompting folks towards the correct response

              laughter.

              If you want other than that, write stuff with a grounding in reality.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              is this the beginning of WW3? How exciting!

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Why? Because we have peaked out on oil and collapse is imminent?

              And collapse = starvation – murder – rape – cannibalism – and radiation?

            • We really don’t know.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Or we don’t want to know?

              Let’s be frank here… what this comes tumbling down…. it’s gonna be beyond nasty.

            • Tim Groves says:

              Norman is an atheist.

              Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot were atheists.

              Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot each killed millions of people by starving them to death. (The first two managed tens of millions each. The latter was operating with a small population of victims.)

              Norman is completely silent about the genocides conducted by his fellow atheists. It’s not that he is an apologist for them, it’s more that he doesn’t see anything to apologize for.

              Therefore, any reasonably person would have to conclude that Norman believes that killing millions of people by starving them to death is quite all right as long as you are an atheist.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              And don’t forget Norman has a man-crush on Winston C…. even though Winston ranks right up there with Hitler in terms of mass murder.

              Starvation vs Gas Chambers…

            • like I said the other day

              when they slaughter the innocents they always miss one

              who grows up to make more senseless noise than all the rest

              it’ happened before

            • that Mao, Stalin =atheists = mass murderer line is old tired and worn out

              I’m surprised there’s so little in your verbal armoury that you have to use it

            • “Amusing to try to imagine just what the ‘great reset’ is, or what a ‘trans humanist globalist’ is. Where on earth you find these words.”

              Norman, the WEF has an entire website about it. They have a whole section on “human enhancement”.

              https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/06/does-upgrading-our-minds-mean-losing-the-spark-of-genius/

              That’s where you can find it.

              You’re welcome.

            • We may see advances in therapies that affect the human mind—for good or ill.

              disease curing and so on

              this does not mean there will be some ‘great reset of the human race en masse to reduce us all to zombiedom

              the will be no second coming,

              no rapture

              and no great reset

        • Tim Groves says:

          “the Irish famine was a terrible injustice on the Irish people back in the 1840s”

          Indeed, it put a right blight on the Emerald Isle altogether. But only the cruelest part of a long cruel history of intermittent hunger, grinding poverty, rapine and slavery.

          This song will make you cry. If you don’t shed a few tears, you don’t have a heart. It’s the hurdy gurdy that does it for me.

          As I roved out one bright May morning
          To view the purple heather and flowers gay
          Who should I spy but my own true lover
          As she sat under yon willow tree
          I took off my hat and I did salute her
          I did salute her most courageously
          When she turned around
          And the tears fell from her eyes
          Saying ‘False young man, you have deluded me
          Three diamond rings for love I gave you
          Three diamond rings to wear on your right hand
          But the vows you made, love
          You went and broke them
          And married the lassie that had the land.’
          ‘If I married the lassie that had the land, my love
          ‘Tis that I’ll rue until the day I die
          But when fortune calls few men can shun it
          I was a blind fool was I’
          Now at night when I go to my bed of slumber
          The thoughts of my true love run in my mind
          When I turned around to embrace my darling
          Instead of gold ’tis brass I find
          And I wish the Queen would call home her armies
          From the West Indies, Americkay, and Spain
          And every man to his homeland would run
          And I in hope that we’d meet again

      • Seamus says:

        “Not really. No one was punished for the Irish famine, and the Viscount of Trevelyan still exists.”

        So because nobody was punished in the Irish potato famine, therefore it necessarily follows that Fauci (most likely a fall-guy with no real power anyway) will certainly not be punished for alleged misdeeds? Your “statusquo” seems to be poor logical reasoning skills.

        “I don’t know whether Fauci has descendants but if he has they will continue to reign as nobles in the medical industry.”

        Were Fauci’s parents “medical nobles?” That would seem to follow from your bizarre and unevidenced belief that the US medical bureaucracy is a form of hereditary nobility.

        • Most likely. Like Walter Freeman III, son of the person who lobotomized so many people. Despite of his father’s misdeeds, he became a professor at Berkeley because of his father’s name, and he spent most of his time trying, and succeeding to a degree, to restore his father’s reputation, hiring biographers to write books favorable to his dad.

          Fauci’s descendants in the medical field won’t be pushed over if they apply a job in the medical field against people with lesser known surnames. In USA, child of a doctor usually becomes a doctor .

          • Seamus says:

            Nobody doubts the existence of nepotism and the tendency for children to follow in their parents footsteps. It doesn’t follow that the medical profession is a form of hereditary nobility.

          • I should give up on the fatuous level of comments

            A qualiifed doctor is by definition of higher than average intelligence.

            It is likely therefore he will marry someone of similar level of intellect

            It is likely therefore (but not guaranteed) that their offspring will be of higher than average intellect

            They are likely to lean towards one of the professions.

            Having a doctor father does not entitle you to a free pass through med school. A doctor father is likely to be in a position to help financially though

            like any other profession, there will be charlatans and rogues irrespective of medical degrees

            most, I think, are well intentioned.

            none, as yet, have tried to bump me off.

            not that I see them very often anyway

            • Xabier says:

              Given the way the NHS is going, it will be ‘Norman Pagett DNR’ soon enough I’m afraid.

              It is horrifying!

            • Tim Groves says:

              What a horrible thought, Xabier. But true nonetheless. People younger than Norman have gone into hospital for an in-growing toenail operation and found a Do Not Resuscitate notice at the bottom of the bed.

            • yes it was one of you lot who snuck in and put that there

        • don’t seek reason from the un-reasonable

          • NomadicBeer says:

            Stop projecting there Norman, some people actually do learn.

            • learning in this context kicked in around 2016-ish

              that was when the majority seemed to get hold of mass media devices that could project the wildest and wackiest views onto everyone willing to listen/read

              couple of years ago—it was global warming hoax and other nonsenses

              now its vaccination hoax–what next I wonder?

              I can’t be the only one seeing a pattern of continuity

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Then there is that leaked clip from NASA that demonstrates that the moon landings were a hoax right Norm?

              Here Norm – this is 100% evidence of the fakery .. but nope — Norm will not acknowledge that…

              Is that not the definition of stooopidity?

              https://youtu.be/bdQHKf48Mfw

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Norm is the opposite of this… when facts change he doubles down on his losing hand… he gets irritated… he lashes out… and makes a bigger fool of himself….

              And as we know … there is nothing as amusing … as an Angry Fool….

              Come on Norm… tell us again how Neil leaped out onto the moon…. then maybe can touch a little on Building 7and how that toppled to the ground because of the heat from the burning buildings across the street hahahahahahahaha….

              Come on Norm … let’s play shall we!!!!

              https://quotefancy.com/media/wallpaper/800×450/2058853-John-Maynard-Keynes-Quote-When-my-information-changes-I-alter-my.jpg

            • you haven’t mentioned gggggggglobal wwwwwwwwarming for a year or two

              what happened

              changed the subject for some reason?

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Its like the moon landings… once something is proven to be a hoax…. what point is there in beating a dead horse?

              Are we there yet with the moon landing?

            • your existence is punctuated by so many hoaxes I’m amazed you have time for the realities of eating sleeping and…..

  12. Fast Eddy says:

    ‘Terrifying’ new research finds vaccine spike protein unexpectedly in bloodstream. The protein is linked to blood clots, heart and brain damage, and potential risks to nursing babies and fertility.

    New research shows that the coronavirus spike protein from COVID-19 vaccination unexpectedly enters the bloodstream, which is a plausible explanation for thousands of reported side-effects from blood clots and heart disease to brain damage and reproductive issues, a Canadian cancer vaccine researcher said last week.

    “We made a big mistake. We didn’t realize it until now,” said Byram Bridle, a viral immunologist and associate professor at University of Guelph, Ontario, in an interview with Alex Pierson last Thursday, in which he warned listeners that his message was “scary.”

    “We thought the spike protein was a great target antigen, we never knew the spike protein itself was a toxin and was a pathogenic protein. So by vaccinating people we are inadvertently inoculating them with a toxin,” Bridle said on the show, which is not easily found in a Google search but went viral on the internet this weekend.

    Bridle, a vaccine researcher who was awarded a $230,000 government grant last year for research on COVID vaccine development, said that he and a group of international scientists filed a request for information from the Japanese regulatory agency to get access to what’s called the “biodistribution study.”

    “It’s the first time ever scientists have been privy to seeing where these messenger RNA [mRNA] vaccines go after vaccination,” said Bridle. “Is it a safe assumption that it stays in the shoulder muscle? The short answer is: absolutely not. It’s very disconcerting.”

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/vaccine-researcher-admits-big-mistake-says-spike-protein-dangerous-toxin/5746715

    • I am glad someone is actually explaining the issue that lay people like us have been worried about.

      The Pfizer report that the article links to is in Japanese, but I suppose it can be read with Google Translate.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        A person with this background… does not make these sorts of claims… without being very certain…

        Byram W. Bridle
        Associate Professor | PhD

        Profile

        Dr. Bridle is a viral immunologist who is passionate about improving life through two avenues of research. One arm of his research program is dedicated to designing and optimizing novel biotherapies for the treatment of cancers. The goal of his research team is to harness the natural power of a patient’s immune system to eliminate their own cancer cells. This represents the ultimate personalized therapy and holds the potential to treat cancers more effectively, safely, and at lower cost than current options.

        The second arm of his research program focuses on studying host responses to viruses and other inflammatory stimuli. This has implications for the treatment of infectious diseases and inflammation-mediated disorders. These two programs have been unified in a unique way.

        The Bridle lab is harnessing their expertise in making potent cancer vaccines and combining this with their interest in anti-viral immunity to develop vaccines to protect against infectious diseases such as those caused by highly pathogenic coronaviruses. Mentoring the next generation of Canadian scientists is a responsibility that Dr. Bridle takes very seriously. He also counts it a privilege to teach students in the Doctor of Veterinary Medicine, graduate and undergraduate programs at the University of Guelph.

        Research Interests

        The research program in the Bridle lab has two arms. One is to develop novel, highly targeted biotherapies for the treatment of cancers. In an effort to kill malignant cells with minimal bystander damage to normal tissues, two approaches are combined: (a) cancer immunotherapy that directs the power of a patient’s immune system against their own tumour(s) and, (b) oncolytic virotherapy, which utilizes viruses that replicate in and kill only cancerous cells. The exquisite specificity, systemic targeting capability and short treatment windows of these therapies hold promise that cancer patients might be effectively treated with reduced side-effects and at minimal cost.

        The goal is to translate the most promising iterations of these therapies into clinical trials in companion animals as a stepping stone towards testing in human patients. A second emphasis of the lab is the study of host responses to viruses. An area of focus is developing a better understanding of the mechanisms underlying virus-induced cytokine storms. Dr. Bridle’s research team has identified a critical role of signaling through the type I interferon receptor in the negative regulation of an extensive network of cytokines.

        Cytokine responses to viruses are often very different between females and males and the Bridle lab group is seeking to understand why. At the intersection of these two programs, is a research initiative aimed at modifying the research team’s optimized cancer vaccine platforms to target severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus (SARS-CoV)-2, which is the causative agent of the coronavirus disease identified at the end of 2019 (COVID-19). The long-term goal is to have a flexible technological platform to rapidly develop vaccines against highly pathogenic coronaviruses that may emerge in the future.

        Research Funding:

        The Bridle lab is or has been funded by:

        Canadian Institutes of Health Research
        Natural Sciences and Engineering Research Council of Canada (NSERC)
        Terry Fox Research Institute
        Canadian Cancer Society,
        Cancer Research Society
        Canadian Breast Cancer Foundation
        Ontario COVID-19 Rapid Reserach Fund
        University of Guelph/Ontario Veterinary College/Department of Pathobiology COVID-19 Seed Funding
        National Centre of Excellence in Biotherapeutics for Cancer Treatment (BioCanRx)
        OVC Pet Trust
        The Smiling Blue Skies Cancer Fund
        Canadian Foundation for Innovation – John R. Evans Leaders Fund
        Canadian Foundation for Innovation – Infrastructure Operating Funds
        Ministry of Research and Innovation Ontario Research Fund – Research Infrastructure Program
        The Bridle lab is part of the…

        Canadian Oncolytic Virus Consortium
        Network of Centre of Excellence in Biotherapies for Cancer Treatment (founding member)
        Canadian Society for Immunology
        Canadian Society for Virology
        Terry Fox Research Institute
        Institute for Comparative Cancer Investigation
        Dog Osteosarcoma Group: Biomarkers/Biotherapy Of Neoplasia (DOGBONe)
        One Health Institute

        https://ovc.uoguelph.ca/pathobiology/people/faculty/Byram-W-Bridle

      • nikoB says:

        The data in it further down the report is all in english.

      • mike says:

        I wonder if the FDA would have approved the release of these messenger RNA vaccines if it was aware of the distribution studies??

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Don’t be silly – of course they know!!!

          And they know that the short term side effects of these vaccines are epic…

          And they know that it makes ZERO sense to give these vaccines to healthy people…

          And they know that the reasonable strategy (if indeed they wanted to save lives) would be to offer the vaccines ONLY to the at risk populations…

          Of course they know all this — this is not Idiocracy.

          Isn’t it glaringly obvious that this is a very thorough plan to do everyone harm?

          GVB calls it a mistake… he keeps thinking ‘they’ will come to their senses…

          Meanwhile he can see that ‘they’ are ensuring he others who challenge this do not appear on the MSM and are blocked on social media…. wake the f789 GVB!!!

          The psychology at work here reminds me of how a wife-beater’s wife will often defend/forgive her husband… she can see he is a nasty piece of work but there is denial… there is a desire to grasp at the positives…. to accept the promises that he’ll never do that again

          • JMS says:

            A moron (aka rational) species manages to deny that SHTF even when all their air is made of solid sh*t and they’re struggling for life.
            Reality denial was our nemesis, we should engrave that in our tombs. Evolution was definitely not meant for morons. I’m with you in this, humans deserve extinction, and hopefully will get it.

            But I’m afraid we are sturdier than rats, which brings to mind the famous dialogue in S. Becket’s “Endgame”:

            Clov (anxiously, scratching himself): I have a flea.
            Hamm: A flea? Are there still any fleas?
            Clov (scratching): Unless it’s a crab.
            Hamm (very worried): But from there humanity could reconstitute itself! For heaven’s sake, grab it!

            • Fast Eddy says:

              The wonderful thing is … the spent fuel ponds… the coup de grace shall we say 🙂

      • Tim Groves says:

        Again, common sense is our friend here. This is not string theory or even rocket science. The vax juice, several millilitres of it at least, is injected into the upper arm muscle tissue and the mRNA-containing lipid nanoparticles are supposed to migrate to nearby muscle tissue cells and turn them into spike protein factories.

        However, muscle tissue is dense with capillaries that feed into veins to take the deoxygenated blood back to the lungs. When the inoculation goes in, this causes an immediate increase in pressure in the area around the injection site, leading to some of the vax juice getting into the veins and carrying nanoparticles all around the body. They can get into the lungs, the heart, the testes, the uterus, thee spleen, the liver, the kidneys and the brain. They can also get to the skin. There is no way to keep them all confined to the upper arm muscle. So it’s just a matter of luck how much leaks and where the nanoparticles settle.

        Duncan and Norman seemed to have survived two doses with no serious side effects. All that means is that they were darn lucky. Eric Clapton was less fortunate, and may never play Layla again.

        • If a person is say, over 80 years old, the leaking mRNA-containing lipid nanoparticles may not make any difference to an individual, especially if the person has multiple health issues. The person is so debilitated to begin with that a chance at preventing COVID-19 offsets the quite possible long-run difficulties with the vaccine. There is also a lot of social pressure toward the vaccine. Even with the leakage, the vaccine may make some sense to some individuals.

          • Artleads says:

            If a person is old and sick, it’s hard to see why they’d take an experimental treatment that experience shows could plunge them into deeper suffering and chances of a quicker, lonelier end. They’d have enough trouble already!

    • StarvingLion says:

      “So by vaccinating people we are inadvertently inoculating them with a toxin,”

      Whocoodanode?

      No need to worry. Millions of dumbshits right this very moment are adding insult to injury by slathering their skins full of benzene based sunscreen so they can be “protected” from acquiring cancer while watching their crypto “investments” go down the drain on their tiny pixel displays they monitor almost constantly.

  13. postkey says:

    “100% PROOF THE SCAMDEMIC WAS PREPLANNED TO VACCINATE MAIM AND KILL YOU” ?
    Start at 05:31
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/s30mcUt7usxm/

  14. Tim Groves says:

    And another one bites the dust! Say the name: Joel R. Kallman. And spread the news far and wide.

    Joel who?

    Senior Director of Software Development for Oracle’s Server Technologies division at Oracle America, Inc.,responsible for the development and product management of Oracle Application Express, been at Oracle since 1996 and is the co-creator of Oracle Application Express—Yes, that Joel R, Kallman.

    Undoubtedly one of Duncan’s more educated friends, Joel has, at the rather early age of 54 and still at the peak of his corporate performance, slipped this mortal coil, just two months after his first Covid jab.

    It seems like he stopped blogging and using Twitter after his first shot. No activity after his first shot.
    He died two months after his first vaccine. RIP Joel.

    Ironically, Joel used that final tweet to promote Oracle’s V-Safe, “a smartphone-based tool that uses text messaging and web surveys to provide personalized health check-ins after you receive a COVID-19 vaccination. Through v-safe, you can quickly tell CDC if you have any side effects after getting the COVID-19 vaccine.”

    I wonder if Joel was well enough to type into a smartphone after his encounter with the needle.

    https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3963795/posts

    According to Oracle’s twitter account:

    “We’re heartbroken to share that Joel Kallman has passed away from Covid-19 on May 25th. He was 54.

    Joel’s warmth and enthusiasm touched countless across the globe. We miss him dearly.”

    So, two months after being inoculated, Joel died of the very disease he was 99% protected against?

    • One of the comments on the link:

      “Why did you remove the March 26 date from the image of Kallman’s “got my first vaccination today” tweet? Not trying to mislead anyone, are you?”

      • Tim Groves says:

        That was just a troll commenting. Anything to cast aspersions.
        The guy who made the post answered him, saying that he didn’t remove the date; it was like that when he found it.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      I knew karma was a real thing!

      This is splendid news… if anyone can find his wife’s email address please let her know this is the price one pays for CovIDIOCY https://www.headsupster.com/

  15. “World — Production — Crude oil including lease condensate (Mb/d)” says: 2018: 83,083, 2019: 82,360, 2020: 76,111 — and, for January, 2021, 76,160, and for February, 2021, 74,138.
    (https://www.eia.gov/international/data/world/petroleum-and-other-liquids/annual-petroleum-and-other-liquids-production?pd=5&p=0000000000000000000000000000000000vg&u=0&f=A&v=mapbubble&a=-&i=none&vo=value&&t=C&g=00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001&l=249-ruvvvvvfvtvnvv1vrvvvvfvvvvvvfvvvou20evvvvvvvvvvnvvvs0008&s=94694400000&e=1609459200000).
    Maybe those figures for 2021 reflect some typical annual slump in crude oil extraction, or something, but, 2021 has, through February, averaged lower rates than that of all of 2020, the sharp drop in which is shown graphically at http://davecoop.net/seneca.htm.
    I wouldn’t try to discuss this with anyone I know (the “paradigm problems” seem to be too big) —
    “A day of reckoning seems to be coming, probably in the next few months” ?
    “Very few are even aware of the food scarcity problems occurring in many parts of the world already.” (https://ourfiniteworld.com/2021/05/04/how-the-worlds-energy-problem-has-been-hidden/,
    http://www.fao.org/news/story/en/item/1382490/icode/) — wasn’t it FE or someone who once said on OFW, “when the oil goes, the food goes”?

    • StarvingLion says:

      Nobody talks about North Ghawar. “Its just another oil field”

      No its not. Its physical and chemical properties are the pillars of this financial pyramid. If it goes seneca, poof, civilization collapses immediately.

      Instead fools like Fast Eddy blabber on about Spend Fuel Ponds in total denial of the only thing that mattters: whats going on at North Ghawar?

      • Tim Groves says:

        Wikipedia gives the current production of the entire Ghawar basin at 3.8 million barrels per day.

        Estimated oil in place is given as 48,250 million barrels.

        Dividing oil in place by current production gives a result 12,697 days or about 35 years.

        Just a rough and probably over-optimistic estimate, but it’s an indication that the resource is finite for many of us in personal terms. If I survive the zombie apocalypse and the spent fuel ponds and the plutonium that I’ve just been told is contaminating my mountain stream, in 38 years from now I’ll still only be 96.

        • Sam says:

          So you can probably half that number and get the true oil production

          • Fast Eddy says:

            More than likely….

            There is no way in hell we will get access to the true reserves in KSA….

            The Elders have gone to extreme lengths and dedicated a decent chunk of resources to foist the renewable energy BS on us to convince us that we will seamlessly transition off of the black goo….

            So why would they inform us that we are close to a tipping point … when it is obvious to the goy … that the transition is still years away.

          • important to bear in mind too, that ghawar, giving about 19:1 EROEI, is subsidising the frackers, who only deliver about 8:1 EROEI

    • humankind has pulled off the neat trick of turning oil into food

      it doesn’t take a genius to figure out the ‘future’ of that piece of current reality.

    • One normal people would say :
      – 2019 : slight decline of economy
      – 2020, 2021 : Covid
      demand fell …
      When economy starts again after covid recovery, production will climb again (if green energy doesn’t replace oïl too quickly). Everything is perefectyl normal.

    • Data through March 2021 is out for the US. It is still at a depressed level, as shown on this chart:
      https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=MCRFPUS2&f=M

      For March, US oil extraction in thousand barrels per day was as follows:

      2018 10,489
      2019 11,937
      2020 12,737
      2021 11,184

      There was a lot of freezing weather in Texas in February 2021. Damage from this may be continuing to depress oil production. Texas one year ago was 5.4 million barrels per day in March; it was 4.7 million barrels this year. North Dakota also dropped by 400,000 barrels a day between March 2020 and March 2021.

  16. davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

    do the Fauci email leaks prove that he is responsible for the pandemic?

    • StarvingLion says:

      Nah, he and Gates are the designated dupes and fall guys.

      Napolean Fauci isn’t happening.

      • Xabier says:

        The rise and fall of such personalities is just crude theatre, created to distract us.

        Meanwhile, the Plan, which is broadly embedded in institutions now, will continue to be implemented.

    • nikoB says:

      No he is responsible for the Fowl Chee Virus.

      Initially it was called the Toe Knee Fowl Chee Virus till they realised it mostly didn’t affect the Toe and Knee.

  17. Sam says:

    I must add that I did get a letter in the mail from the government saying that I can get my covid vaccine and also if I lost my job I can get up to 6 months back rent paid for and and 6 months forward paid for……up to $2200 per month! And they would pay for my water, sewer, and electric the same!! Unfortunately I am just a dumb working stiff….got hit hard in 08 so I thought I would be smart and make myself very employable this time not know that I would have been better off getting laid off! I can’t win!

  18. Sam says:

    why does it seem like all of a sudden everyone is rich? I was working with a guy today working on a house and he said to me the people that are moving into this house are filthy rich and I said isn’t everyone….except for you and me? The funny thing is that it seems like that ….I live in a town that the affluent have taken a liking to but still….it reminds me of a scene in Babylon Berlin a german show on Netflix that is based on germany after ww1 and moving into ww2

    • StarvingLion says:

      One word: FRAUD
      Consequence: COLLAPSE

    • Eudora says:

      Also I just read this from Nicole foss it is written in 2012 in she is predicting collapse then🙀
      https://www.businessinsider.com/theres-something-much-worse-than-an-oil-price-spike-2012-7

      • One of the things Nicole said was:

        While energy is the primary driver of expansion, finance is the primary driver of contraction, as the time constant for changes in finance is simply much shorter than for changes in supply or demand in the real economy. Finance is the operating system. When that crashes, resource availability becomes temporarily secondary.

        I would say that rising consumption of energy products is the primary driver of expansion. Adding technology can work around problems, but it doesn’t really add much to expansion. It adds to wage disparity and eventually makes it difficult to keep commodity prices high enough.

        In the 2008-2009 recession, it was definitely the finance system (higher interest rates and higher oil prices) that caused the end of the expansion. Energy supply did not increase enough, with higher prices. So if Nicole was thinking about just the 2008-2009 recession, she was pretty much right. The debt bubble popped then.

        In 1929, a few rich farmers were able to buy new equipment and produce food cheaply. Other farmers, without all of the fossil fueled equipment couldn’t produce food cheaply. There was overproduction and great wage disparity. The financial system contributed to the problem, but the inability of the many poor farmers to keep up was a problem as well. Average energy consumption per capita was too low. So, while there was a finance problem, there was also a low energy problem.

        In 2020, the economy was doing poorly, even before COVID-19 came along. Governments saw an excuse to close down, to avoid financial problems. World energy supply, which was falling too low because of depletion, could fall even lower.

        I am not sure that what Nicole said really was right with her general prediction, however. Energy and finance work together in both growth and contraction.

        In Nicole’s 2012 article, she is arguing for debt bubble collapse at that time. She was obviously wrong about that.

        • energy is the sole underpinning factor of money-value

        • excellent bbc radio world service prog on automation in the USA

          https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/w3ct2g7h

          maybe worth a listen

        • Fast Eddy says:

          In 2020, the economy was doing poorly, even before COVID-19 came along. Governments saw that collapse was imminent so they create and released covid, and used that as an excuse to close down, to avoid financial problems. World energy supply, which was falling too low because of depletion, could fall even lower.

          And now they are injecting a leaky ‘vaccine’ into as many people as possible for the purpose of exterminating all humans to avoid epic suffering.

          • Sam says:

            I don’t know I would like to believe your argument but have you ever met anyone tied to the government? They are dumber than a box of rocks and they can’t keep their mouths shut! Let alone pull over the biggest scam in human history! Nice try….but I have to go to work

            • Fast Eddy says:

              There there now Sam… just because your postman is on an 80IQ … doesn’t mean the top govt guys are on that level….

              Now don’t you strain yourself with that heavy mail bag….

    • Same here.. have been trying to get a house built and called a local window mfr. They are 12 weeks out! Not because of supply issues but too many customers. I said “I thought nobody had any money!” He laughed and shook his head, saying they’ve never been so busy in the entire lifetime of the business.

      Everyone seems to be going back to restaurants, too… not sure how they are paying for it. For lunch we decided to grab a large pizza and two beers at a non-descript joint and with tip we ended up leaving behind $50.

  19. Fred says:

    40,000 years is about as sustainable as you’ll get from homo sapiens Gail. 🙂

    • Obviously, Australia must have gone though ice ages during that long period as well, since the last ice age ended something like 12,000 years ago. Or maybe Australia was somehow spared. I wonder how the Aborigines fared in the ice ages.

      • I think Aus was spared the last ice age

        going back much further it was part of Antarctic, but that was well before we appeared

        • I expect that being spared the last ice age was very instrumental it the Aborigines success.

          • they were able to cross the land bridge from Indonesia when the ice lowered sea levels, but then got isolated in Aus when the ice melted and the sea rose again

            • doomphd says:

              true, but i doubt many of them wanted to return to SE Asia. like the Polynesians and the Melanesians, there was pressure to move on or die. and those are the success stories.

            • hunter gatherers just follow food sources–that is the only motivation

              crops/animals also follow their food sources—which in turn will ultimately be affected by climate

              so if the climate alters over 000s of years, people have to move over 000s of years.

              that is long enough for tribal types to develop, languages, body types and so on, which is why world groups look different

              Australian aborigines are tall and lean, Eskimos are short and fat.

              The result of climate and environment–yet they could still interbreed if the opportunity arose.

            • The body types are adapted to particular climates, however. Interbreeding tends to defeat the purpose of adaptation.

            • I think interbreeding of ‘types’ is a relatively modern thing—You would have no interbreeding of Eskimos and Aborigenes because neither knew the other existed, and had no means of interacting anyway

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Thanks for that Norm… you are so capable at explaining these things… but I’ve heard all this before …

              Do you mind to go off topic and explain what’s happening here?

              To me it looks like they are pretending to be in lunar orbit when they are actually in low earth orbit…

              But hey what do I know …

              Let me hand it over the expert… Norm the Great…

              https://youtu.be/bdQHKf48Mfw

            • Tim Groves says:

              Norm, we all know you can talk the hind legs off a donkey. And everything you say sounds so authoritative. But then you go and spoil it all by saying something stupid like “I think Aus was spared the last ice age.”

              That’s not what “The Science” says.

              https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/09/130923093122.htm

              Research recently published in the Journal of Archaeological Science sheds new light on the ways Aboriginal civilisation met the challenges of extreme climate change during the Last Glacial Maximum, which peaked around 20,000 years ago.

              “The magnitude of change was phenomenal,” said Professor Ulm, a lead researcher on the project and Deputy Director of JCU’s Centre for Tropical Environmental and Sustainability Science.

              “Lakes dried up, forests disappeared, deserts expanded, animals went extinct and vast swathes of the Australian land mass would have been simply uninhabitable.”

              Annual temperatures plummeted by as much as 10 degrees below present-day levels, with massive reductions in rainfall. Glaciers appeared in the Snowy Mountains and Tasmania.

              “This was a time of massive change,” Professor Ulm said. “Sea levels fell more than 120 metres during the LGM, exposing much of the continental shelf and connecting mainland Australia to Papua New Guinea and Tasmania.”…

              “As much as 80 per cent of Australia was temporarily abandoned by Aboriginal people at the height of the Last Glacial Maximum, when conditions were at their worst,”

              Spared the last ice age?

            • I meant, if you cared to stop and think, that the Australian continent was not covered in ice sheets as say Europe and n America were

              obviously conditions in the rest of the world would affect Australia climatically-

              that is just so glaringly obvious, I thought, as not to needed stating between intelligent debaters—just as the Sahara turned into grassland savannah at the same period.–then back into desert as the ice sheets retreated and changed rainfall patterns

            • Tim Groves says:

              Norman, once again you have your basics wrong.

              You say the ice age didn’t effect Australia much but then you say that ice age conditions in the rest of the world affected Australia. And you don’t see any inconsistency in that logic.

              Now, moving on to the Sahara, it was an even bigger drier desert during the last glacial period than it is today. It turned into grassland savannah later, during Holocene optimum between about 110,000 and 6,000 years ago, and it has been drying out ever since.

              If you can’t get a handle on basic established facts such as I’ve quoted above, then you have no business lecturing to anyone about anything as you just spread ignorance and disinformation. If you aren’t sure, then look it up! If you are sure and it’s still wrong, then you are suffering from cognitive impairment.

            • fas says:

              I think Norm has a touch of dementia….

            • forgive my chortling at;-

              ”spreading ignorance and disinformation”

              that’s one of Tims best lines yet

              Sometimes I feel like an atheist in a evangelical bible tent—”youre wrong—everyone here says your wrong–so you must be—you are spreading ignorance and disinformation”

              Evolution is a hoax—ignorance and disinformation again

              I won’t go through the list—sufficient to thumb through the recent hoaxathon years—when one fades another one pops up–folks seem to need them

              Ill never forget the ‘truth’ of that mentally challenged guy with his mic spreading ‘truth—-to that astronaut—one should not laugh at loonies—might happen to any of us.

              And I’m the one with dementia?

              Why don’t we ‘reset’ the ‘discussion’ with something everyone knows to be true and not a hoax or scam

              I suggest the concept that the Earth is spherical

              no—no—wait a minnit

              lots of people say thats a hoax too

              20000 years ago my house was under a mile of ice—wait—no—it was 1770 yards—21375 years ago—16000 years ago mammoths were trampling my back garden–or was it 15875 years ago?

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Confusion is a symptom of dementia….

            • so true

              glad you found out before its too late

            • Tim Groves says:

              Oops! That should have read “between about10,000 and 6,000 years ago.!

      • Mike Roberts says:

        Some of Australia is tropical. Most of the rest is sub-tropical.

  20. Seamus says:

    JBS Shutters All US Meat Plants As Cyber Attack Jeopardizes Food Supply

    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/cyber-attack-hits-jbs-global-meat-processing-operations

    The oligarchs and their media have been demonizing meat eating as environmentally harmful while pushing plant-based meat substitutes and bug-eating for some time. This cyber-attack, just like the recent oil-pipeline hack, seems to align with the agenda of the WEF crowd.

    • I notice:

      The JBS ransomware attack is a threat to the US food supply as the world’s largest beef company controls about a quarter of the US beef market. If JBS cannot slaughter cattle or hogs over a sustained period, or perhaps in a matter of days, shortages could develop, and prices may spike.

    • StarvingLion says:

      HyperInflation has already occurred. Now they are just pretending it never happened by shutting everything down.

  21. Fast Eddy says:

    This looks like fun.

    Very useful in bombarding those executing on the CEP?

    https://www.headsupster.com/

    • StarvingLion says:

      “Thank you. Your message will be reviewed by our team then delivered to the recipient(s) once approved.”

    • A way of delivering anonymous e-mail messages to someone.

      • Bei Dawei says:

        You know, the Buddhists have a concept called “right speech.” It means avoiding false speech, malicious speech, harsh speech, or idle chatter. It’s an excellent principle which I need to think about and observe more often. In this world, we can extend olive branches, or we can fling poo like a monkey, but these decisions ultimately mold who we are.

        https://tricycle.org/trikedaily/family-dharma-right-speech-reconsidered/

        • Tim Groves says:

          We can even extend olive branches covered in poo, thereby out-monkeying the monkey.

          While we are doing Peter Gabriel:

          • StarvingLion says:

            I once wrote Peter Gabriel song lyrics on a bill payment I gave to a female employee at a bank. I ended up getting kicked out of the bank for ‘inappropriate behaviour’

            I want to be your sledgehammer
            Why don’t you call my name
            Oh let me be your sledgehammer
            This will be my testimony
            Show me round your fruitcage
            ‘Cos I will be your honey bee
            Open up your fruitcage
            Where the fruit is as sweet as can be

          • el mar says:

            saw him live – three times – my favorite!
            and two years ago, Toni Levin, the bass guy, in a small bar, face to face.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        If anyone wants to contact Medsafe in NZ… PR TEAM – luke.chivers@health.govt.nz

  22. Duncan Idaho says:

    “KUDOS to the residents of the twelve states that have already achieved the 70% goal: Vermont and Hawaii are over 80%, plus Massachusetts, Connecticut, Maine, New Jersey, Rhode Island, New Mexico, Pennsylvania and New Hampshire, Maryland and California all over 70%.

    Next up are Washington at 69.3%, D.C. at 68.4%, New York at 67.9%, Illinois at 67.6%, Minnesota at 67.5%, Virginia at 67.4%, Delaware at 66.7%, Colorado at 66.2% and Oregon at 66.0%.”

    • I notice a lot of states that vote Democratic in that list.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      List of States with the Most CovIDIOTS.

    • Xabier says:

      Interesting data: so many trusting fools everywhere.

      One would never have guessed!

      Or then again……

      • Fast Eddy says:

        How fantastic would it be if in 3 months the Elders make an announcement…

        Everyone who has been injected is going to die shortly… and all those who are not injected… will inherit the Earth.

        And then they pushed a button and the brains of all the CovDIOTS exploded… just as we were laughing at them and calling the MOREONS.

        • Xabier says:

          Or if the main aim is mass infertlity – how would people react if that fact were to be confirmed and allowed to sink in?

          It would be the equivalent of ‘pressing a button and exploding their brains’, I should have thought.

          • Student says:

            What is astonishing is that in Italy mainstream media is particularly focusing on the fantastic success of the vaccine campaign in UK (with no dead people from Covid-19 yesterday, they say) and consequently people are diligently queueing to get the jab as you can see here:

            https://www.ilfattoquotidiano.it/2021/06/02/open-day-a-bologna-per-il-vaccino-5mila-persone-in-fila-prima-delle-8-e-un-chilometro-di-coda-alcuni-hanno-dormito-fuori-dalla-fiera/6217630/

            People also want to be free and come to normal life with this fabolous! and great! green digital pass.
            I’m really surprised how people can be easily convinced to get vaccines which don’t have final approval yet (which will be in 2023) and don’t understand all the consequences also of this digital control.

            • Xabier says:

              An old friend of mine comes from Bergamo: his parents in their early 70’s couldn’t wait to be injected and ‘get back to normal’.

              They simply don’t reason at all.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              This is the dynamic that is playing out with the injections:

              https://youtu.be/qcdNaajKExs

            • All my husband’s Italian family who have been able have gone for the vax, and this includes MDs, university researchers, and science teachers. I find it extremely strange and am not getting why they haven’t parsed the risks. I’ve been staying out of it.

            • One of my nephews is an MD in Bergamo. When “Covid” was announced, he was fortuitously sent home to quarantine because of (unspecified) “symptoms”, so he wouldn’t be on the “front lines” (I’m sure his powerful doctor father had nothing to do with that).

              Nonetheless, like AOC, the family makes out like he went through a war (staying home on the couch). Italians know how to do drama/play the game when necessary.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            Yes that would be a happy ending.

            I will enjoy sending anonymous I told you so messages to lots and lots of people using this https://www.headsupster.com/

        • Azure Kingfisher says:

          Imagine the chaos created if the Elders pursue the following:

          1. Demonize the “unvaccinated” population. If you don’t get the jab you’re being selfish and putting people’s lives at risk. You have to wear a mask everywhere you go and identify yourself via a smartphone app before entering any stores. Your international and domestic travel options will be limited.

          In time…

          2. Demonize the “vaccinated” population. The news (controlled by the Elders) begins to amplify the narrative that the “vaccines” are dangerous and should be stopped immediately. The average person becomes familiar with “Antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE)” and “leaky vaccines,” among other frightening terms. Suddenly, the “vaccinated” population become the new undesirables. Shopkeepers don’t want to let them into their shops; parents don’t want their “unvaccinated” teens dating “vaccinated” teens; travel restrictions begin to increase for the “vaccinated.”

          But wait…

          3. There’s a solution to the problem faced by the “vaccinated.” A brand new mRNA “vaccine” that will correct the problems of the first COVID-19 “vaccines!” Salvation has arrived! Remember, if you don’t take this new and improved “vaccine” you’re being selfish and putting people’s lives at risk. You don’t want to be part of the “unvaccinated” population, do you?

        • RationalLuddite says:

          “And then they pushed a button and the brains of all the CovDIOTS exploded… ”

          You may be closer than you realise FE.

          I’ll tease you with hints (most the medical research is behind paywalls, and I would need to post too many textbooks on electromagnetic induction to give a decent picture) – try to find out about what the Italians discovered re the amount of inexplicable ferromagnetic nanopartcle adjuvants in the vaccines at the very beginning of the pandemic.

          Then look into research about the research into nanomagnetite in blood brain barrier delivery of cancer drugs under ambient RF loads.

          Then look at the remote inductive heating temps achievable in the brain cavity due to said magnetic nano ferromagnetic adjuvants under vastly increased RF pulses….

          Now, swap out magnetite for expensive nano-rareearth ferromagnetic adjuvants (as the Italians found and seemingly got no answer about) for far higher sensitivity.

          All you need now is the RF / energy souce, and you have remotely activated, push button fatal hyperthermia and other fatal complications (blood clotting, embolisms)

          Just my own observations, but diabolical if there is any truth to it. It’s doable, I should know – I once patented a process for composites, and an addition was going to be curing at distance by the inclusion of tiny amounts of nano magnetite (it all got too expensive so it wasn’t added in).

          If TPTB don’t realise what they primed and it was accidental … then someone else will with a medical and electromagnetic background will … it’s got be be the right frequency range though (and no, not 5g range)

          Huxley’s tinfoil-hat may come in useful after all

          • your technical knowledge seems beyond question

            however I question the end you apply it to

            glad you added—‘if there is any truth to it.’

          • I may have missed it, but has Fast Eddy not been posting the “conspiracy” videos of people showing metal objects sticking to their injection sites??

  23. Fast Eddy says:

    I was hoping that by this morning I’d find the Long Term Studies….

    Mike … can you and your team prioritize this and have them on my desk by the end of the day.

    Thanks

  24. Azure Kingfisher says:

    I haven’t verified the following thread of connections but found it an amusing enough example of “complex systems” to share with Our Finite Worlders.

    Posted by “NigeWz”:

    “The Chinese biological laboratory in Wuhan is owned by Glaxosmithkline, which (accidentally) owns Pfizer! (the one who makes the vaccine against the virus which was (accidentally) started at the Wuhan Biological Lab and which was (accidentally) funded by Dr. Fauci, who (accidentally) promotes the vaccine!
    GlaxoSmithKline is (accidentally) managed by the finance division of Black Rock, which (accidentally) manages the finances of the Open Foundation Company (Soros Foundation), which (accidentally) manages the French AXA!
    Soros (accidentally) owns the German company Winterthur, which (accidentally) built a Chinese laboratory in Wuhan and was bought by the German Allianz, which (coincidentally) has Vanguard as a shareholder, who (coincidentally) is a shareholder of Black Rock, which (coincidentally) controls central banks and manages about a third of global investment capital.
    Black Rock is also (coincidentally) a major shareholder of MICROSOFT, owned by Bill Gates, who (coincidentally) is a shareholder of Pfizer (which – remember? Sells a miracle vaccine) and (coincidentally) is now the first sponsor of the WHO!
    Now you understand how a dead bat sold in a wet market in China has infected the WHOLE PLANET!”

    https://stolenhistory.net/threads/coronavirus-possible-reset.1498/page-63#post-99978

    • Enough blame to spread around widely.

    • Tim Groves says:

      Priceless! And AXA is a huge life insurance company, which reassures me in that they won’t want to have to pay out death benefit claims on the policies of billions of people.

    • Xabier says:

      Which we can summarise as: so many companies, of global reach, but so few points of control over them. Here we have the not-so-secret-government of the world.

      Which rebuts the claim, frequently made by simpletons, who imagine that nation states are the highest level of organisations with sufficient power, that a fraud or conspiracy would be ‘far too difficult to organise on such a scale’.

      I would like to mention the organisational charts made by Alison McDowell, which similarly show the global reach and wealth of these networks: USA-EU-Israel-UK, etc.

      Bio-Tech, Digital innovators, huge investment funds, billionaires and their Foundations, the MIC (especially DARPA), the CB’s, are all inter-linked very closely.

      In fact, they constitute a kind of shadow empire, perhaps more powerful than the real states – particularly when congresses and parliaments have become so degraded, just rubber-stampers of Totalitarian measures even when not just filling their pockets with bribes.

  25. Bei Dawei says:

    Taiwan update:

    It’s been two weeks since the Covid spike started. The numbers have held steady since then, around 200-300 new cases per day, plus maybe 100 more added as corrections to earlier numbers. It’s too early to say anything about trends. I suppose we’ll see the results of the new regulations (not lockdowns) soon enough. I was going to link to the CDC, but there’s some problem with their English page. (It was fine yesterday.) Here it is in Chinese:

    https://www.cdc.gov.tw/

    A big issue is when vaccines will become available. China has apparently used its political influence to discourage Pfizer (at least) from selling directly to Taiwan, but instead has arranged things so that some Chinese company has the Taiwan rights. They haven’t even applied to distribute anything here (not that they would be allowed anyway), but the political messaging is that Taiwan can only receive vaccines from China, so why is Taiwan “playing politics” and not accepting them? There are also proposals to let local governments request these vaccines. Taiwan is also working on a domestically-designed vaccine–no idea how much progress they’ve made, or what sort of vaccine it might be. Here’s an English blog covering this:

    https://laorencha.blogspot.com/

    The Plum Rains have started, and it’s been raining heavily in the north (where I live). Other places, not so much yet, but it will probably improve. Here’s a chart (in Chinese, but you wouldn’t know most of these places anyway) showing the status of all the reservoirs:

    https://water.taiwanstat.com/

    • Ed says:

      The Chinese do not want the Chinese in Taiwan killed by the Pfizer kill shot?

      • Bei Dawei says:

        It’s more like, the PRC doesn’t want Taiwan’s government to be able to take credit for getting Pfizer vaccines. Instead, they want to give the impression that Taiwan could get vaccines through the PRC (and only through the PRC), but are refusing for political reasons.

    • Thanks for the update.

    • eKnock says:

      What next? Manipulation is everywhere.

      “The water problem is tied in with several other issues that are changing our world. Covid-19 and Global Warming, with its associated rise in sea level, are related to attempts to address the problem of reduced supplies of fresh water.”

      “A commenter on another website referred to a paper that claimed that, back in the seventies, after LIMITS TO GROWTH came out, researchers were trying to develop gain of function abilities for viruses to be able to increase the melting of ice. The virus somehow bypassed the need for latent heat in the melt water. The idea was to increase the melt rate of glaciers in the Himalayas to provide fresh water to the growing Asian population.”

      “The global warming hoax was initiated to cover the accidental release by the research lab as it was discovered that the virus that melted the ice also caused a severe form of influenzas that was contributing to many deaths around the world. They were trying to make the fossil fuel industries the boogey man to cover up their fatal incompetence in lab procedures.”

      https://zombieapocalypsemitigation.com/?p=741

      This certainly explains a lot of what we see today

      • Xabier says:

        ‘Ice-eating virus’. It’s so bizarre – I love it!

        If not true, it ought to be.

  26. StarvingLion says:

    The elites are BANKRUPT.

    Place your bets: Tanks vs Technicals (aka hordes of Toyota trucks with heavy machine gun on back). Tanks outnumbered a thousand to 1.

    Place your bets: Aircraft Carriers vs Container Ships
    (Load the economically relevant container ships with cruise missiles)

    Place your bets: Banker Dinks in Towers vs Drug Lords in Caves
    (Who’s got the cast iron stomach for the long run?)

    Place your bets: Helicopters vs AK-47 Thugs
    (Again Helicopters outnumbered a million to 1)

    Place your bets: “Vaccine” Bioweapons vs Robust Sticky Biology
    (They don’t die quickly as predicted)

    Place your bets: Batteries vs ICE
    (One is robust against any weather, the other is not)

    Place your bets: Fighter Jets vs (Yet to be invented)
    (This is the only unfilled gap. Get some robust cheap aircraft with lethal weapon and game over)

    Place your bets: Unlimited Worthless E-Money vs Liquor-Meat-Smokes
    (Armies fight on basic inputs, not worthless money or treasure that no longer exists)

    and on and on and on…

    And you elite-lovers think its in the bag?

    • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

      your (Yet to be invented) are already here: drones.

    • In addition to the elites having weapons of very high technological level, there is something called the power structure.

      Most people are used to it, and are afraid to break it and enter an uncertain future. Quite a lot of non-elites will fight to keep it and die , even though it gives them little benefit, because that’s the only system they know about.

      Example; various peoples of USSR fighting for Stalin, or colonials in World War 2 who die for their masters.

    • Seamus says:

      Also the “elites” (the haute bourgeoisie) are only able to use the military as their paid thugs so long as the financial system and the state are still functioning. In the event that there is a total collapse of the economy so will there be a collapse of the military power structure.

  27. Yoshua says:

    Someone explained that the Repo rate spiked to 10% since there were too many treasuries and not enough cash.
    The Fed stepped in and started printing money and buying treasuries.
    Now the Repo rate crashed to 0% since there is too much money and not enough treasuries.

    But still…$500B a day…when the QE program is $120B a month… something is missing.

  28. StarvingLion says:

    Crypto will precede the Stock Market CRASH. Once its ‘going mainstream’ well thats the time to look for the exit sign.

    “Miami is hosting the largest-ever cryptocurrency conference this week in a sign that what was once dismissed as a passing fad is now going mainstream”

    http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/miami-host-cryptocurrency-conference

  29. Yoshua says:

    S&P 500 broke the trend line in May but is still hanging on by the finger nails.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E20nueyXMAk98Cm?format=png&name=large

    Yes, maybe the banks just park the money at the Fed and takes the treasuries the Fed has bought as collateral.

  30. Yoshua says:

    “US FED ACCEPTS $447.985 BLN IN DAILY REVERSE REPO OPERATION, AWARDS AT 0.00 PCT TO 43 BIDDERS – NY FED”

    Almost $500B is drained from the markets every day now. The money has no place to go? The banks are no longer issuing loans? There’s nothing to invest in? There’s no collateral? The economy is shutting down?

    It’s a mystery.

  31. @Gail
    >Gail Tverberg says:
    June 1, 2021 at 12:25 pm

    >In previous collapses, did the oligarchs win out? My knowledge of history is not good, but my impression is no. Turchin says that they tend to fight with each other, as resources deplete. Ultimately, the whole system is reorganized, without the current set of oligarchs, I would expect.

    What happens is Hegel’s Thesis, Antithesis and Synthesis, Hegel invented this idea to explain the old style of thought, the new style of thought brought by the French Revolution and how they kind of created a new style of thought in the 1820s when he was most active.

    The oligarchs might or might not win out in a collapse, but like the Aztec nobles or Hawaiian monarchs marrying into white elite families, some oligarchs do survive, become part of the new ruling class and continue to prosper.

    In Asia, it was common for the new dynasty to destroy all members of the previous dynasty but still some powerful non-royals who switched sides before the completion of conquest continued to do well.

    Turchin is from Russia and he is apparently not aware that the Rurikid noble families kinda survived the Romanovs, although they feared worse during the Soviet regime. (a member of the illustrious Gagarin family, Alexei, married a daughter of a wealthy peasant and claimed he was from the peasant class. His son Yuri , the first astronaut, became very famous and even though he only had daughters, their descendants are allowed to use the name Gagarin. A couple years after he died, his grand aunt, Princess Gagarin, who ran a boarding house at London showed someone documents that the astronaut was indeed descended from the Gagarins but the story has been buried.)

    • Bei Dawei says:

      You mean the first cosmonaut!

      😉

      (I still can’t get onboard with “taikonaut,” though. It’s a barbaric portmanteau that shows zero awareness of Chinese phonology.)

      • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

        what do the Chinese actually call them? Surely not taikonaut? What is it really phonetically to an English speaker like me?

        • Bei Dawei says:

          tàikōng rén (太空人), lit. “spaceman” or “space person”

          “Astronaut” (“star sailor”) and “cosmonaut” (“universe sailor”) are both from Greek. There is another Chinese term which translates “cosmonaut,” but is not commonly used.

    • Thanks!

  32. John R. says:

    Thierry, oh, how original . . . the ol’ “why don’t ya kill yourself” routine for those who accept and act upon human overpopulation, har har!

    Xabier said this concerning reducing population:  The wrong solution – in fact, there is no solution and all we can do now is await Collapse.
    —-
    The population folks I know of in person and on the Internet are perfectly aware that the climate-change/ecological-destruction juggernaut cannot be stopped.  That ISN’T the point.  Avoiding needless suffering one sentient being at a time is the issue now.  

    I often wonder what goes through the minds of people, especially now, who decide to breed, multiple times, in some cases, when it’s been clear for many decades that we are destroying the living planet.  The adamant narcissism or deliberate, cultivated ignorance on the part of those types in the First World is tragic, yet so pathetically typical for the human herd.

    • We don’t know how this will end. You assume it will end with suffering, but this doesn’t have to be the case.

      This past year hasn’t really been suffering for most people in rich countries. Governments have started special programs so that even those without jobs could have housing and enough food.

      Does the end come instantly with nuclear explosions? Does the end come through disease, perhaps a worse mutated version of COVID-19? Is there some sort of religious “second coming”?

      An awfully lot of people die from cancer, with a lot of pain from the cancer itself, or the medical treatment, intended to extend life, whether or not it makes the person feel better. Other elderly people are left in nursing homes for years, with essentially no one who cares to look in on them. We forget that these ends aren’t necessarily very good either.

      • Mirror on the wall says:

        Yes, and who cares if life does ‘end in suffering’. Life always involves suffering, and it generally ends in it. But that is no argument against life. The point is to make the most of it in the meantime and nevertheless. Most people instinctively get that.

        Anyone who thinks that suffering is an objection to life, logically should do themselves in – and spare the rest of us their anti-life ramblings. What about the suffering that they spread with their misery tales all the time? There is certainly hypocrisy there.

        Slanderers of life should do the decent thing. So said the Stoics, and so say I. Otherwise they are the biggest rebuttal to their own pessimism. If life is ‘not worth living’, then do not live it – problem solved. Those of us who think that life is worth living, will continue to do so, and allow our kids to do so.

    • Very Far Frank says:

      If those who are concerned about human effect on the biosphere don’t leave descendents, they’re not ‘saving’ a damn thing, they’re just opening up the world for the descendents of those that don’t have the inclination or mental capacity to recognise that impact.

      I’ve heard every anti-natal argument under the Sun, but it’s always ultimately a deferential and self-defeating position. Don’t go nuts, but have a few kids to pass that self-righteousnous on to, because down the line we all might need it.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        The only good human… is a dead human….

        https://youtu.be/rcx-nf3kH_M

      • John R. says:

        Frank, after reading your first paragraph, I immediately thought of the eco-fascist/naturalist/author Pentti Linkola for some unknown reason! I wonder why that would be. Nevertheless, he had some ideas that wouldn’t make you happy:

        “. . . the chief cause for the impending collapse of the world – the cause sufficient in and by itself – is the enormous growth of the human population: the human flood. The worst enemy of life is too much life: the excess of human life.”

        “The coming years will prove increasingly cynical and cruel. People will definitely not slip into oblivion while hugging one another. The final stages in the life of humanity will be marked by the monstrous war of all against all: the amount of suffering will be maximal.” 
        —————–
        And here’s a second helping of my self-righteousness [spelled correctly too] to help you understand that not all humans have the same needs or desires [how embarrassing that I have to explain this to another adult]:

        I watched my peers march in lockstep, without any apparent capability of independent thinking, to follow the social regimen of college, career, marriage, children, house, cars, vacations, etc. I was lucky to have balked at this somnambulance. I took a few years off the treadmill after college, read, looked around, found the right girl in 1980 (she wouldn’t dream of bringing a child to an overpopulated, polluted planet), got a vasectomy, worked a low-stress job, lived comfortably but simply, retired early. My wife and I are outliers. The others are yeast, the mainstream. After all, it is so much easier to just not think.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          “The coming years will prove increasingly cynical and cruel. People will definitely not slip into oblivion while hugging one another. The final stages in the life of humanity will be marked by the monstrous war of all against all: the amount of suffering will be maximal.”

          YES!

          He gets it. One can read detailed histories of the worst atrocities committed by man against his fellow man… one can read about the most horrific famines…

          And those would be nothing compared to what the world looks like – when the power goes off – permanently.

          I understand that most people cannot even begin to imagine such a scenario — because they’ve never faced something like that, except for a few hours here and there when the lines were being serviced. You flick the switch the lights go on – you open the fridge door and the light goes on and the food doesn’t rot. Feel bored – turn on the tee vee or the stereo — it has always been so… how could it not.

          This is the closest depiction I can find …. but it’s nowhere near what will actually happen… in this situation everyone knew this was temporary … there were still police… and there was still food… so it went no further than looting…

          When people realize the grocery stores are not going to be refilled… then all hell will break lose. And there will be no police to control the situation….

          And it will be global — 8B vicious beasts will be off the leash of civilization….

          https://youtu.be/pyPjGwGg4-s

          The Compassionate Extinction Plan (CEP) is logical. And necessary.

      • Mirror on the wall says:

        If those who have lost their instincts for life cease to procreate, then they are doing the rest of humanity a favour.

        For one thing, future generations will not have to listen to their depressing pessimism.

        So, if they want to get snipped, then let them – even encourage them.

        The species and breed can only be healthier, with stronger life instincts, and happier, for their removal from the gene pool.

        Nietzsche devised the ‘eternal return’ – telling people that they will have to live the exact same life infinite times – precisely to get rid of those with weak life instincts.

        In our age, we have eco-pessimist ‘birth strikes’ as the negative ‘selective factor’ – things have a way of working out.

        Those who have decided that life is ‘not worth living’ should definitely remove themselves from the gene pool.

        They have my full approval to do so.

        • Mirror on the wall says:

          Nietzsche in TWTP:

          1055 A pessimistic teaching and way of thinking, an ecstatic nihilism, can under certain conditions be indispensable precisely to the philosopher – as a mighty pressure and hammer with which he breaks and removes degenerate and decaying races to make way for a new order of life, or to implant into that which is degenerate and desires to die a longing for the end.

          1056 I want to teach the idea that gives many the right to erase themselves – the great cultivating idea.

          1058 …. The idea of recurrence as a selective principle, in the service of strength…. Ripeness of man for this idea.

      • Mirror on the wall says:

        “…. to pass that self-righteousnous on to, because down the line we all might need it.”

        Debatable. Maybe humans need pessimistic doctrines of celebacy, to weed out those who have stronger impulses to virtue-signalling than to engage in the cycle of life. That way the human species retains its healthy organic instincts and drives.

        Arguably early Christianity with its denunciation of the world, and its recommendation of celibacy, was such a doctrine, as was RCC with its monasticism and clericalism. Societies were generally not rich enough to support much celibacy, ánd celibates tended to be drawn from the higher classes, while the masses multiplied.

        > He that is unmarried careth for the things that belong to the Lord, how he may please the Lord, and he that is married careth for the things that are of the world. 1 cor 7

        Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom. mt 25

        These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins, they follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. rev 14

        Protestantism was typically not in favour of that stuff.

        Buddhism also preached celibate monasticism as the way to ‘enlightement’ (no desire, cessation). But like Christianity, it also provided marriage doctrines for the masses.

        Arguably, the deselective, pessimistic, celibate principle has never been applied with broad enough scope for it to be of any use to the species, and it may have done more harm than good?

        • the prime motivation of any species is eating and the reproduction of self
          all other bodily functions occur irrespective of our inclinations.

          free choice is available to starve yourself to death, and/or not reproduce

          that has no bearing on why a species, humankind or any other, exists

          Christian or any other doctrines are dreamt up to bring control and guilt into our existence.

          I’ve left it a bit late to encounter 10 virgins around here I think.

          • Mirror on the wall says:

            “that has no bearing on why a species, humankind or any other, exists”

            Could you elucidate that point? Are you saying that instincts or ‘free will’ to cease (or both) have no bearing?

            “I’ve left it a bit late to encounter 10 virgins around here I think.”

            LOL

            No shepherding in heaven for you lot!

            • we have individual free will—obviously

              but no collective free will

              collectively we vote for the idiot who promises infinite growth

              while individually we know he’s lying

              a traffic accident up ahead, on the other carriageway

              collectively the traffic slows to a crawl to gawp at the mess

              individually we know its moronic to do so. Yet we still gawp at it.

              babies get conceived in regions where food is insecure–why?–how can people be so stupid.? Yet they always have. My G parents had kids in conditions I would regard as appalling. Most of them survived. somehow.

              species evolve to survive against the odds

              what individuals do is irrelevant.

            • Kids have traditionally helped with crops, or working on crafts. People have expected that they would pay their own way.

        • I think that the churches of the various religions provided employment for the children who could not inherit farmland or businesses because too many lived to maturity. It was best that these excess children did not marry, so as to keep population growth down. If they took vows of poverty, it allowed the churches to “employ” more such folks.

          When the Roman Catholic Church came up with the idea of indulgences, it was a clever way of instituting a voluntary tax on the rich. The tax could be used to hire more workers who would otherwise be without jobs. It could be used to build cathedrals, to be used as a means of employing these people who otherwise would not have jobs. Sort of like an early “shovel ready infrastructure plan.”

    • Ano737 says:

      Perhaps you never heard of the biological imperative to reproduce. We wouldn’t be here without it.

    • Xabier says:

      Try telling a woman who is desperate for a baby, even just one, that it won’t bring her joy.

      It’s not pathetic or despicable, it’s just human.

      The deliberate non-breeders have done no good, as the juggernaut of natural instinct has just rolled on without them.

  33. Dennis L. says:

    Tesla again. Elon is casting the front and back parts of his care which are normally formed sheet metal welded together spot welds and associated stresses and distortion. Elon is talking about micron accuracy with a considerable reduction in the number of robots associated in production. He is also making the battery part of the structure reducing the weight.

    This is incredible manufacturing which major automaker will have a challenge incorporating due to sunk capital costs in older methods.

    With mandated electrical autos coming, it would seem Tesla has a considerable manufacturing advantage, an electrical drive advantage as well as a software leap forward.

    A guess is he is using his engineers in both automotive and space, synergy.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQfKZ5lo9dc

    Dennis L.

    • All of these are for the Elites only. They will sail away from the Earth. The rest will get cold feet

    • I think Elon smokes too much dope.

      • NomadicBeer says:

        There was a very good article on off-guardian that pretty much convinced me that Musk is a CIA asset.
        It makes a lot of sense – other than paypal, Elon never made any money. His companies suck at the teat of the government and yet nobody complains about the “welfare queen”.

        Remember that the imperial government has three arms: the federal departments, private corporations and of course NGOs.

        • StarvingLion says:

          Well I guess by implication that makes Bitcoin a CIA con too.

          I know for sure Fast Eddy is working for the CIA.

    • Tesla needs a large volume to pay for the fixed costs in this manufacturing method. There is little flexibility and reusability, I would think. I hope Tesla doesn’t expect changes between model years.

  34. Azure Kingfisher says:

    On the subject of the underreporting of adverse events from drugs and vaccines:

    From “Electronic Support for Public Health–Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (ESP: VAERS)”

    Inclusive dates: 12/01/07 – 09/30/10

    Principal Investigator: Lazarus, Ross, MBBS, MPH, MMed, GDCompSci

    Team members: Michael Klompas, MD, MPH

    Performing Organization: Harvard Pilgrim Health Care, Inc.

    Project Officer: Steve Bernstein

    Results:

    “Preliminary data were collected from June 2006 through October 2009 on 715,000 patients, and 1.4 million doses (of 45 different vaccines) were given to 376,452 individuals. Of these doses, 35,570 possible reactions (2.6 percent of vaccinations) were identified. This is an average of 890 possible events, an average of 1.3 events per clinician, per month. These data were presented at the 2009 AMIA conference.

    “In addition, ESP: VAERS investigators participated on a panel to explore the perspective of clinicians, electronic health record (EHR) vendors, the pharmaceutical industry, and the FDA towards systems that use proactive, automated adverse event reporting.

    “Adverse events from drugs and vaccines are common, but underreported. Although 25% of ambulatory patients experience an adverse drug event, less than 0.3% of all adverse drug events and 1-13% of serious events are reported to the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). Likewise, fewer than 1% of vaccine adverse events are reported. Low reporting rates preclude or slow the identification of ‘problem’ drugs and vaccines that endanger public health. New surveillance methods for drug and vaccine adverse effects are needed. Barriers to reporting include a lack of clinician awareness, uncertainty about when and what to report, as well as the burdens of reporting: reporting is not part of clinicians’ usual workflow, takes time, and is duplicative. Proactive, spontaneous, automated adverse event reporting imbedded within EHRs and other information systems has the potential to speed the identification of problems with new drugs and more careful quantification of the risks of older drugs. Unfortunately, there was never an opportunity to perform system performance assessments because the necessary CDC contacts were no longer available and the CDC consultants responsible for receiving data were no longer responsive to our multiple requests to proceed with testing and evaluation.”

    https://www.icandecide.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Lazarus-report.pdf

    • For anyone wanting data on the “less than 1% of vaccine-related adverse events are registered in VAERS” assertion, here is the link to a paper from Harvard:

      https://digital.ahrq.gov/sites/default/files/docs/publication/r18hs017045-lazarus-final-report-2011.pdf

      Adverse events from drugs and vaccines are common, but underreported. Although 25% of ambulatory patients experience an adverse drug event, less than 0.3% of all adverse drug events and 1-13% of serious events are reported to the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). Likewise, fewer than 1% of vaccine adverse events are reported. Low reporting rates preclude or slow the identification of “problem” drugs and vaccines that endanger public health.

      • Mike Roberts says:

        Thanks, Lidia. It’s really an assessment of EPS:VAERS rather than VAERS itself. There is no actual data attached to the report so difficult to assess and it doesn’t seem to have been peer reviewed. I’ve no doubt that adverse events are under-reported for vaccinations (less so for severe events) but I can’t get a feel from this report about how that under-reporting varies with vaccine initiatives or with EUA vaccines. There have been many papers and articles about VAERS but I haven’t yet found one that addresses these issues properly (they tend to be narrowly focused or just about what VAERS is).

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Interesting stuff…. has anyone come across any long term studies data?

          That’s my area of intense interest. I cannot seem to find anything

      • Xabier says:

        Moreover, it is also clear that those who have horrid side-effects, but haven’t been hospitalised, often say nothing as they ‘don’t want to put people off’ and let the side down in the fight against Covid.

        So, we have reasonable estimates of reporting systems capturing between 1 and 15% at most of adverse effects.

        We may conclude, then, that the vaccines will undoubtedly kill or maim hundreds of thousands, at least, in the first year.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          It’s similar to Tesla Omerta… you never complain… you never betray…. no matter how shit the car is…

  35. StarvingLion says:

    Stock Market Peak end of July because of this…followed by CRASH in October.

    WTI is at about 68 right now but the recent leg started at-43. So its really at 110. This is confirmed by Vancouver gasoline prices currently at $155 c/liter average. Its all time high is $167c. I don’t expect WTI to exceed 75 this time.

    Stupid crap like AMC and GME are soaring with the Russell 2000 outperforming everything else.

    So 2 months to ramp up stocks like XOM to 80 which will mark the peak. And DX at about 80.

    • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

      PPT will not allow a crash this year.

      • StarvingLion says:

        What makes you think they are in control?

        • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

          uh, rising markets since 2009.

          • NomadicBeer says:

            David, I mentioned this before but in case you haven’t seen it – I agree with you.
            The globocap has borrowed techniques from everyone, including the commies so now it can:
            – keep the stock market rising forever (maybe not keeping pace with real inflation though)
            – It can reduce the consumption by the population and keep inflation in check by using the communist technique of restricting availability (see shortages and wait times for cars and other things).

            And so on…

            My predictions:
            – We will see rationing of some essentials in the next couple of years
            – More and more comforts will not be available. Meat seems to be on the chopping block now. Gasoline in some locations, same.

            What other things do you see?

            • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

              the restricting availability technique is new to me. I’ll have to think about that, thanks. I’m guessing high inflation on essentials, so that would in a sense work like rationing. I agree also less available comforts/non-essentials. That would destroy lots of jobs in those sectors. My latest guess is that this will lead to massively high unemployment which will be the biggest sign that the system is about to collapse.

            • StarvingLion says:

              Forget it, dude.

              They can’t save the real pandemic which is FRAUD. The ship hit the iceberg in 1980.

            • Xabier says:

              The CBDC’s and social credit system will be the rationing, as well as political conformity, tool.

              The attack on meat and dairy consumption will, I suspect, be even more aggressive than we would like to imagine.

              Not sure about alcohol: they may like to have a tanked-up population in lock-down, or maybe prefer some other drug?

            • Ed says:

              Private housing out
              Clothes other than utility out
              Bars and restaurants out
              Private cars for those under 200K out
              Travel out
              Cell towers out

      • PPT = Plunge Protection Team (for those not used to this abbreviation)

      • Minority Of One says:

        Are you sure that they can prevent a crash in all circumstances?

  36. Yoshua says:

    China just did a military lockdown in Guangzhou after 50 cases of Covid. China takes this virus seriously.

    The rest of the world is getting infected or pumped up with experimental vaccines. Our cells are reproducing the bat virus and its genetically modified spike protein, the bioweapon, or copying the genetically modified spike protein when we gene therapy shot. We don’t know what the result wil be in the long run. They have already started to talk about that the genome is integrating with our DNA.

    The Sinovac is deactivated virus. No reproduction or copies by the cells. China now allows three children per woman…since they expect the rest of us go extinct?

  37. Herbie R Ficklestein says:

    Mother Nature better get with the BAU Program or no cheque for you, Uncle Joe Biden says..

    Reuters
    ‘Big risk’: California farmers hit by drought change planting plans
    Norma Galeana and Christopher Walljasper
    Tue, June 1, 2021, 6:04 AM
    By Norma Galeana and Christopher Walljasper

    FIREBAUGH, Calif. (Reuters) – Joe Del Bosque is leaving a third of his 2,000-acre farm near Firebaugh, California, unseeded this year due to extreme drought. Yet, he hopes to access enough water to produce a marketable melon crop.

    Farmers across California say they expect to receive little water from state and federal agencies that regulate the state’s reservoirs and canals, leading many to leave fields barren, plant more drought-tolerant crops or seek new income sources all-together.

    “We’re taking a big risk in planting crops and hoping the water gets here in time,” said Del Bosque, 72.

    Agriculture is an important part of California’s economy and the state is a top producer of vegetables, berries, nuts and dairy products. The last major drought from 2012 to 2017 reduced irrigation supplies to farmers, forced strict household conservation measures and stoked deadly wildfires.

    California farmers are allocated water from the state based on seniority and need, but farmers say water needs of cities and environmental restrictions reduce agricultural access.

    Nearly 40% of California’s 24.6 million acres of farmland are irrigated, with crops like almonds and grapes in some regions needing more water to thrive.

    “I’m going to be reducing some of our almond acreage. I may be increasing some of our row crops, like tomatoes,” said Stuart Woolf, who operates 30,000 acres, most of it in Western Fresno County. He may fallow 30% of his land.

    Del Bosque, who grows melons, asparagus, sweet corn, almonds and cherries, said his operation could lose more than half a million dollars in income, and put many of his 700 workers out of work. He and other farmers say drought has been exacerbated by California’s lack of investment in water storage infrastructure over the last 40 years.

    Looks like much more price increases ahead….cyber attacks, weather, supply chain, money priming out of control, ect.
    What’s next? Oh, Covid 20.0

  38. davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

    are vaccines causing higher than expected deaths? of course long term data will have to wait. What’s the higher than expected deaths for Feb March April?

  39. Herbie R Ficklestein says:

    I know a perfect area for a Chip factory …Attention Intel
    P.S. It’s just the Weather…no concerns

    Temperatures are forecast to reach as high as 107 degrees Tuesday and Wednesday in the San Joaquin Valley in Northern California, according to the National Weather Service, and temperatures that may be 16 to 18 degrees above normal for this time of year may break daily records in the Fresno area.

    In Redding, California, temperatures reached 109 on Monday, breaking the record of 103 set in 2016, meteorologists said. An excessive heat warning will remain over portions of the Valley and foothills through Tuesday with highs between the upper 90s and 107.

    Anyone know what Wet Bulb Temperature means? Just asking!🤔

    • California has an excess of energy, I understand. Perhaps intermittent renewables can power the chip factory, at least during the time the sun is out.

    • Xabier says:

      I believe it’s when solar panels will work so well that they will power us to Mars. Nothing to worry about at all.

    • Bruce Steele says:

      Wet bulb temperature is the temperature measured by a thermometer with a wet cloth over the bulb end and with air/wind passed over it. It has relevance for biological limits of animals. Humans wet bulb thermal tolerance is 95F.

      • Herbie R Ficklestein says:

        Thank you…more from Wikipedia…
        Living organisms can survive only within a certain temperature range. When the ambient temperature is excessive, many animals cool themselves to below ambient temperature by evaporative cooling (sweat in humans and horses, saliva and water in dogs and other mammals); this helps to prevent potentially fatal hyperthermia due to heat stress. The effectiveness of evaporative cooling depends upon humidity; wet-bulb temperature, or more complex calculated quantities such as wet-bulb globe temperature (WBGT) which also takes account of solar radiation, give a useful indication of the degree of heat stress, and are used by several agencies as the basis for heat stress prevention guidelines.

        A sustained wet-bulb temperature exceeding 35 °C (95 °F) is likely to be fatal even to fit and healthy people, unclothed in the shade next to a fan; at this temperature human bodies switch from shedding heat to the environment, to gaining heat from it.[9] In practice, such ideal conditions for humans to cool themselves will not always exist – hence the high fatality levels in the 2003 European and 2010 Russian heat waves, which saw wet-bulb temperatures no greater than 28°C. [10]

        • Bruce Steele says:

          Herbie, I raise pigs and pigs don’t sweat so when it gets to 120F like it did last year the pigs need a big wallow to get in or they will die. My job requires me to make the rounds several times a day to make sure every pig can get wet. If they bust through a fence into an area without a wallow , they die. It takes some getting used to but I can tolerate the extreme heat because around here it is always dry heat. I sweat and it cools me down but pigs don’t and heat kills them. I was looking for wet bulb temperatures and pigs and couldn’t find anything. For them dry heat is just as dangerous , I believe.

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  41. Ed says:

    Gail, you are the first to make the connection Stalin, Mao, Biden all related to energy! With the collapse of shale oil cold be just as deadly.

  42. Bella888 says:

    Gail said: I think that the best argument that I have heard for slowing the growth rate of population was back in 1972. Then, we were still quite away from reaching resource extraction limits. Slowing the population growth would, in theory, have allowed collapse to be put off for a number of years. It would still take place, but some years later.
    ——————————
    Precisely . . . unfortunately, only about 50 of us in the U.S. took heed and refrained from bringing children to a massively overpopulated planet, ha ha!

    • I didn’t actually hear the view back in 1972. It was only much later that I read the book Limits to Growth and became acquainted with Dennis Meadows myself.

      • Bella888 says:

        Luckily, I had a driven and enlightened biology teacher around 1973 who introduced important information from the Population Bomb, Limits to Growth, Silent Spring, and most importantly, the legacy of William Vogt:

        From Wiki:

        In 1942, he was made Associate Director of the Division of Science and Education of the Office of the Coordinator of Inter-American Affairs. Later he served as Chief of the Conservation Section of the Pan American Union, through which he was given the opportunity to study the relationship between climate, population and resources in various Latin American countries. These experiences formed the background to the perspective he later elaborated on in his Road to Survival (1948), a book motivated by his strong belief that then-current trends in fertility and economic growth were rapidly destroying the environment and undermining the quality of life of future generations. Vogt’s most significant contribution was to link environmental and perceived overpopulation problems, warning in no uncertain terms that current trends would deliver future wars, hunger, disease and civilizational collapse.

        Road to Survival was an influential best seller. It had a big impact on a Malthusian revival in the 1950s and 60s. After its publication he dedicated many activities to the cause of overpopulation. From 1951 to 1962, he served as a National Director of the Planned Parenthood Federation of America. In 1964, he became the Secretary of the Conservation Foundation. He served as a representative of the International Union for the Conservation of Nature and Natural Resources to the United Nations until his death. “Upon his death on 11 July 1968, he was remembered for the provocative questions he had dared to ask and for tackling a subject matter that remained shrouded in controversy.”[1]

        • I have been a significant contributor to Planned Parenthood for many years.

          I have three children, but no grandchildren. Maybe one grandchild, eventually, but that would seem to be the limit of the third generation down.

        • Dennis L. says:

          Bella,

          Perhaps the issue is not the absolute number but the distribution. An alternative would be to have a child and then end one’s life prior to retirement so as not to burden the child.

          A natural life span based on scaling is about 40 years, with agriculture, storage of food during times of stress, medical care we have increased that to more than seventy.

          Dennis L.

        • Ed says:

          complete title
          Road to Survival. a Revolutionary New View of the World, of Its Multiplying Peoples and Its Wasting Riches

      • Duncan Idaho says:

        Dennis Meadows
        And his wife

  43. Xabier says:

    The ever-pugnacious, but civilised, eminently well-informed and rational, Archbishop Vigano, has written another essay on the Pandemic – the new ‘Holodomor’ for our time – in Catholic Family News.

    I highly recommend it, and I am not a Catholic.

    He is being heavily censored, which as always now is an indicator of being on the side of truth.

    He is also, in taking this stance, placing himself in direct opposition to the mad-keen Vaxxer Pope and, of course. the Vatican Bank, which has clear interest in the Great Re-set.

    Ugo Bardi also realised the connection with the Holodomor, which upset so many of his readers.

    • I looked up Holodomor. One article at history.com is titled,

      How Joseph Stalin Starved Millions in the Ukrainian Famine Cruel efforts under Stalin to impose collectivism and tamp down Ukrainian nationalism left an estimated 3.9 million dead.

      This took place in 1932-1933. This was a time when energy consumption per capita, world-wide was way too low. If Stalin didn’t have access to the energy resources required, he likely didn’t have a lot of options open to him. Starve everyone? Starve a selected group? Get people to share what little they had through collectivism?

      The world was at a time between peak coal in UK and peak hard coal in Germany. I have not learned anything about this, but the story clearly reflects a problem with inadequate energy resources.

      I didn’t find Ugo Bardi’s article talking about the connection to the Holodomor. Is this one of the five articles published on Ugo Bardi’s old site, Cassandra’s Legacy, that was taken down by Blogger at the time Facebook banned the site?

      There is no search button on “The Seneca Effect” (his new site) or “Cassandra’s Legacy,” (his old site) I notice.

      • Student says:

        I tried to be of help on this, but I also couldn’t find any reference on Ugo Bardi’s blogs about that. But maybe it is difficult to search. If it can be useful, I recently found interesting the following Ugo Bardi’s article (link below) which in some way has a reference to religious issues and definitely about pandemic. I’d like to suggest it, because there is an optimistic view inside and I hope we will experience some similar result also today with what is happening to us.

        https://thesenecaeffect.blogspot.com/2021/05/memes-that-kill-cycle-of-witch-burning.html

        with Ugo Bardi I could say that the famous latin expression nemo propheta in patria is almost appropriate.
        On Holomodor subject I’m not well prepared. My impression is that there is a sort of spiritual narrative to convey minds on the front against mainstream media explanation, which can be useful anyway also if it is just a narrative. As Covid-19 and Great reset subjects are too complex subjects that should require big efforts of understanding, this kind of holomodor explanation could be an easier and useful explanation. But this doesn’t exclude that there is still a restricted group of people who could be addressing what is happening and maybe with some aspects of this narrative too. I don’t know, it is really difficult to say. Of course I can be wrong as I’m also trying to understand all this.

        • Student says:

          Sorry Gail, I see now that I didn’t understand correcly what you were saying. My words are instead more related to Viganò position, but about that I’m still trying to understand what is happening.
          About Ukraine and Soviet Union, please see if that is correct:

          https://cassandralegacy.blogspot.com/2021/01/the-great-reset-western-path-to.html

        • In his article Memes that Kill: Witch Burning and Other Extraordinary Popular Delusions, Ugo is writing events such as the witch hunting killing over 50,000 young women in the late 16th and early 17th centuries. He remarks, ” Apparently, torturing and killing women was a form of stress release.”

          Another example he gives in charts is the Protestant Reformation and the Catholic Counter Reformation, whose deaths seem to have Peaked about 1600 to 1625. In other words, wagon the same time as the witch hunts.

          I wonder if all of this was related to inadequate food energy per capita. There is a New Yorker article called, “How the Little Ice Age Changed History.” This is really a review of a book called Nature’s Mutiny: How the Little Ice Age of the Long Seventeenth Century Transformed the West and Shaped the Present by Philipp Blom. It says,

          During this epoch, often known as the Little Ice Age, temperatures dropped by as much as two degrees Celsius, or 3.6 degrees Fahrenheit. . .

          The cooling happened in phases, with an initial drop beginning around 1300, and a sharper and more abrupt onset of cold starting in 1570 and lasting for about a hundred and ten years. It is the latter period that provides the focus for Blom’s book.

          This is precisely the period when the witch hunts and the Protestant Reformation and Catholic Counter Reformation deaths took place. It would have been a period of inadequate food supply because of the cold weather.

          Ugo Bardi doesn’t pick up on this connection. Instead, he talks about feedback loops that helped get the system back working correctly. The issue is really an inadequate food energy availability due to low temperatures. Having so many people die would allow the system to get back into equilibrium, as the temperature warmed by itself. Maybe he meant this, but he doesn’t allude to this in this article.

          Our problem with fossil fuels would seem to be that it is not a temporary problem, as far as we can see now. The number of people that the world economy can support without fossil fuels would be low.

          • Duncan Idaho says:

            Hint:
            “Religion is poison”
            -Mao

            • Perhaps the situation today is “Scientific Models are Poison.”

              Mao is known for the Great Chinese Famine. His “Great Leap Forward” in 1959-1961 led to a great famine, not that different from Stalin’s in the Ukraine.

              According to Wikipedia, “The Great Chinese Famine is widely regarded as the deadliest famine and one of the greatest man-made disasters in human history, with an estimated death toll due to starvation that ranges in the tens of millions (15 to 55 million).”

              If we look at the Wikipedia article on The Great Leap Forward, we find:

              “The Great Leap Forward (Second Five Year Plan) of the People’s Republic of China (PRC) was an economic and social campaign led by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) from 1958 to 1962. Chairman Mao Zedong launched the campaign to reconstruct the country from an agrarian economy into a communist society through the formation of people’s communes.”

              This sounds very much like what Stalin tried to do in the Ukraine.

              I might argue that it is not all that different from what Joe Biden is trying to do in the US.

              There is not enough to go around. Share it equally. Actually, this doesn’t really work.

            • Mirror on the wall says:

              What they really need was better agricultural technology, which came later. Organisational structure is not necessarily going to alter the yield without that. China is focused on tech these days.

            • People need to be rewarded for their work, however. If everyone gets a stipend, whether they work or not, it is hard to find workers, especially if the stipends are very generous.

              Also, taking away farms from individual farmers erased individual differences in land under cultivation. Those who could cultivate the most were the most productive. Equating the most and least productive was not a good idea.

            • Mirror on the wall says:

              Quite right Gail, which is why China operates a wage system (as did USSR) – no work, no wages. A wageless society would come much later, in Marxist theory, when the economic base is much more developed and products are abundant – which seems unlikely now.

              The Ukrainian peasants had an incentive, in the sense that the Soviets were going to take the grain that was needed for the cities, so that USSR could industrialise – and whether there would be any left depended on how much the peasants produced. Harsh, but basically a ‘wage incentive’ of sorts. Slackening in protest would have been a mistake with the Soviets.

              Ukraine is Western steppe (ancient grass land) and predominantly chernozem (black soil), and very fertile. It was known as the ‘bread basket of Europe’. It is about the easiest place to farm. That is why, along with coal, it was a much sought prize in WWII. Germany was overpopulated with not enough agricultural land, for the technology of the time; but Stalin ended up with it.

            • Bei Dawei says:

              –said to the Dalai Lama, who seems a lot less poisonous than Mao was

            • Duncan Idaho says:

              Dalai Lama?
              He actually invited me, and several others, up to his hotel room to honor our political action.
              Unexpected, I was at a political protest in Los Angeles.

            • Hint:
              “Maoism is a religion”.
              -Lidia

          • Pekoe says:

            As an interesting aside, I recently read an article which explained that the Little Ice Age was caused by the arrival of the Spanish in the Americas and the subsequent decimation of the native populations (smallpox). They estimated that from the early 1500’s to about 100 years later the population fell from about 60 million to 6 million. The regeneration by Nature of all the resulting fallow crop land led to a reduction in GHG and global temperatures.

        • Xabier says:

          I’m for any perspective that encourages us to fight, and resist the brainwashing and relentless fear propaganda and authoritarian oppression, rather than feeling utterly powerless and hopeless – which of course is just where they want us to be.

          Vigano can show the way to some; other thinkers and traditions might suit different people.

          What one does note is how few of the ‘great thinkers’ of our time who are always making videos, going on tours and sell lots of books, are prepared to stick their necks out.

          Noah Hariri particularly disgusts me: ‘The cyber future might be wonderful, or it might be the worst tyranny ever known to human beings’.

          OK, Hariri, where do YOU stand on this important issue?!

      • Mirror on the wall says:

        This article discusses the period in Ukraine. “Ukraine and Russia in the 1930s”.

        Inevitably the occupation of Ukraine was about political power, overcoming local resistance, and access to resources, including coal and grain.

        The famine has been interpreted variously, depending on the motives of the interpreters.

        https://sci-hub.mksa.top/10.2307/41036906

        > After 1917 Ukraine became for Moscow the most significant non-Russian republic among the lands of the former Russian Empire. Its importance was dictated not only by its geographic size and large population, but also by its rich natural resources (agriculture, mineral deposits). Moreover, its location was of strategic significance: it bordered on the countries which Moscow regarded as advanced posts for aggression by Western capitalist countries. The history of Ukraine also haunted Moscow. Once relieved of Moscow’s tutelage in 1917, Ukraine had immediately become unruly. The revolution and the civil war in Ukraine were hardly comforting: the borderland had to be subdued by force. From Moscow’s point of view, Ukraine, a strategic republic, had to become its most important ally, yet Ukraine was potentially Russia’s most unwilling partner. The history of Ukrainian-Russian relations in the 1930s illuminates this dilemma and presents a complex picture. Recent findings from archives have resolved many questions, but have raised many more….

      • Xabier says:

        It’s the article about the destruction of the Kulaks by Stalin, on his old site, which caused such an uproar, almost the last one I think.

        I agreed with Ugo, he agreed with me, and then a poster called me a nut and demanded that Ugo remove me – unaware that he was indirectly calling Ugo a nut too. So funny.

        • Student says:

          Yes, I’m happy I found also that article and I could read it again (please see above), although I see that you Xabier already know very well the situation.
          Actually reading again that interesting article I well understand now why his blog CassandraLegacy was banned by FB.
          And I also think that, if his considerations are all correct, it will be very difficult for us to escape our current situation, unless something unplanned happens: 1) a collapse 2) an internal fight 3) a simple mistake. Because I see difficult that people get out in mass from this propaganda.

        • Political leaders need to to pick an out-group, if there isn’t enough to go around. There has been the Jews in Germany and more recently, the Uyghurs in China. It sounds like the Kulaks were an out group as well. If we look around, there probably are many such groups.

          • Student says:

            Yes, at the regard the Russians might be considered as an out-group who also own to many fussil fuels, but I’m also worried that not vaccinated people could be considered as an out-group who don’t obey and create social disorder and problems.

      • I did find a wikipedia article that gives very old coal mining data in Ukraine. My impression is that mines were still quite limited there in 1932 and 1933. Peak production seems to have come in 1976. Coal production has been declining for a very long time now, which is part of Ukraine’s problem.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_in_Ukraine

      • Dennis L. says:

        I accept the energy issue, the most challenging issue facing the owner of capital be it state or private is finding people to use it well, there is a great difference in employees and with farming it can be the difference between eating well and starving. Apparently Stalin was not aware of that fact, it would be interesting to know how the diet compared in Russia at that time, I am too lazy to research that one.

        Dennis L.

      • And it was whitewashed by Walter Duranty, who more than anyone else contributed to cover it up. Perhaps because the peasants in USSR were not that important?

    • Ed says:

      Thank you Xabier. Vigano pushes every hot button. He calls out the centuries old families of extreme wealth!

      He is charting the transition from “what is good for the people” to “profit for the few without any restraint”.

      Vigano give us a masterpiece describing what is wrong but like everyone wailing he does not tell you how to fix it. Sure he does say go out and do the right thing but I fear humankind has built a system that is unbreakable. The one hope I see it the collapse of civilization. It could be collapse is not the enemy buy rather the solution.

      • Xabier says:

        They are trying to build a slave system, and certainly intend it to be unbreakable (perhaps by modifying our genetics and minds?) : but can they scale up the technologies, and have the environment, and energy flows, now degraded to such an extent that their system will be unsustainable?

        I believe that may be the case – in which case Collapse may be the saviour. That may mean death, but it’s still preferable to their plans for our future.

        Also, they are arrogant, cruel, careless, can only work with lies, and are at best a loosely associated gang of psychopaths and thieves who must quarrel among themselves.

        • Student says:

          Gail, about your point, I found also interesting a recent Pope’s declaration about private property and communism. Maybe this is related to what we are talking about and to what they have in mind:

          https://www.repubblica.it/esteri/2021/04/11/news/papa_condividere_proprieta_non_e_comunismo_e_cristianesimo_allo_stato_puro-295951240/

          • Using Google-Translate, I found this statement:

            ““There is no social justice that can be founded on inequality, which implies the concentration of wealth”.

            Also,

            “Quoting Paul VI and John Paul II, Bergoglio affirmed that “the right to private property can only be considered as a secondary natural right derived from the principle of the universal destination of created goods, and this has very concrete consequences, which must be reflected in the functioning of society”.

            • Student says:

              Yes, the point about private property is only a secondary natural right is something – at least – debatable.

            • Mirror on the wall says:

              All ‘rights’ are made up and accorded by society. They have no pre-social existence. Property relations depend on the extent of the development of the economic base.

              Peasants had no right to own land during 1000 years of feudalism, and the RCC was totally fine with that at the time. It was understood as part of the ‘divine order’ that property should be ordered hierarchically.

              Obviously RCC is much older than bourgeois property relations, so it is not going to dogmatically assume that the latest property relations are ‘natural’. Thus they are ‘secondary’, not absolute, and liable to change.

              In fact ‘human rights’ are a Renaissance construct, in the history of ideas, from the early bourgeois period, with the city states in Italy and then northern Europe.

              Under feudalism, the masses were granted use of land in return for service, with obligations and rights accorded only by contract – protection, and to farm land, or to use arms to train for the obliged service in war, should it arise. Rights were understood as contractual, not inherent.

              Modern bourgeois property ‘rights’ reflect the capitalist economic base that depends on a more advanced technology (and energy conditions) than existed under feudalism.

              Classical liberals in UK, and then France, understood ‘rights’ as contractual (the ‘social contract’) between citizens and the state. USA founding fathers had a more backward, theological and ‘natural’ approach to rights, that got encoded in the Declaration of Independence. UN endorsed that stuff after WWII, but it has no theoretic or historical basis.

        • Yes they will make it

          Time is up for the plebs.

          • Student says:

            Apart from interesting historical and debatable origin about rights, I think that private property is such a primordial right that it comes from the Palaeolithic age. Then, of course, much later, starting from first forms of agricultural societies, some élite has started to rule on others and reduce what normal people could own. But what we might miss here is to see that some part of the above Mr.P declaration taken to the extreme could go into the direction of some WEF prevision: you will own nothing and you’ll be happy, which is a very perverse form of slavery. I don’t think in fact that slaves in the past were happy, because they were perfectly aware of their condition.
            In case you could see this article (maybe too pessimistic):

            https://comedonchisciotte.org/agenda-2030-non-avrai-nulla-e-sarai-felice/

            (Please use google translator or DeepL, given short time I couldn’t find an equivalent article in English)

            I think we need to be aware of this risk.
            But maybe it is just myself tonight who is judging the situation too negative and maybe I’m wrong.
            For sure what we are experiencing is not good now.

            • the ‘value’ of a given area of land is only what can be produced from it in energy terms.

              field or nation, the law remains constant.

              When the first land was planted with energy-yielding crops, it took on value, and had to be protected. Thus armies became necessary.

              The more land, the bigger the army it can support. But there is never enough, so neighbouring land must be invaded and occupied.

              Territories and borders are established, rulers appear.

              This has been going on for millennia.

              Over time we have turned the planet itself into cash, and confused cash and energy, which is of course the ultimate self destructive nonsense

            • “Rights” are only what one can obtain and maintain by force, or what one can convince other people to concede. The first gambit is uncivilized; the second, civilized, let’s say.

              We give up loads of our power every day because we think the System that takes that power from us is worth the sacrifice. What happens when that stops being the case?

              ===
              Student: my Italian husband’s family had a live-in servant throughout the 1950s, -60s, -70s and -80s. This was common in many middle-class families of other non-Americans I came to meet: Puerto Ricans and Filipinos as an example. I thought this was terribly “undemocratic”. Even today, in the US and UK, authorities are forced to deal with situations of outright slavery perpetrated by Indians, Arabs, and Africans, to whom this state of affairs is still normal. There’s a recent case of high-caste Hindus in New Jersey importing Dalits to work for $1/hr. building a Hindu temple.

              “Povero Gino” (as he was called, since he has passed away) came from a destitute peasant family and renounced any chance of having a life or family of his own, having been taken up into “service”. He was very devoted, and apparently saw this as “his lot” in life.

              In the end, we none of us own anything: we rent it from the various States for taxes. There is no “free” place on the planet any longer, if there ever was one.

            • What I am getting at is that—like Povero Gino—most of us renounce loads of freedoms in exchange for a modest keep and a little bit of security.

            • Xabier says:

              In a fascinating book about the Bushmen, I read that personal ownership of things – clothing, tools, ornaments – was fully recognised.

              Moreover, an individual might be deemed to have a personal and irrevocable right to certain areas for drawing water, or foraging, which no one could rightly keep them from enjoying.

              So, ‘That’s mine, don’t you dare take it!’, supported by the whole group, is by no means an invention only of wicked elites in complex societies.

              Those who tried to transgress those rules, were first reprimanded, and then killed or exiled, by the whole group acting as one.

              Which is just what the WEF deserves…….

            • generally speaking, the hunter gatherer can only ‘own’ what he can carry

              he can’t ‘own’ property, or control nations

              having ‘rights’ to waterholes and so on isn’t the same thing

            • Tim Groves says:

              Nobody owns anything, Norm.
              Ownership is just a social construct.

            • I figured that out years ago Tim

              roughly when it became obvious that pauperism was my station in life

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Whether it is the CEP or some other plan…. without a doubt death is the better option.

          • Student says:

            Please let me give my last contribute on this subject about rights. The point for me now is that, while we are nicely and pleasantly discussing about philosophy of law, there is a restricted élite who will take to the extreme (on their favour) private property and exercise of power and there will be the mass of us (in the western countries) who will experience a new form of slavery and private control. That will be a new mix of power given by the worst of communism and the worst of capitalism. I don’t think that can be the only solution for our future.

          • Student, what do you think an alternative could be?

    • If international travel is a big contributor to oil consumption and Australia has huge oil import issues, it is not hard to imagine how political influences would lead to courts banning international travel.

      • Seamus says:

        It seems so obvious what these covid restrictions are about: the forcible reduction of the living standards of the 99.9% of the population in order to save resources so that the rich can continue to kick the can while maintaining luxurious lifestyles.

        • Or maybe it is about forcible reduction of living standards, so that something close to business as usual can continue, even though there really isn’t enough oil available for continuation of business as usual. Producers of other fuels are having a hard time making a profit as well.

          • Mike Roberts says:

            Gail, do you really think that governments are thinking that resource limits are being reached and so something has to be done to prolong the illusion that unending growth is possible or at least hide those limits from the public for a while longer?

          • Fast Eddy says:

            I am still sceptical of a BAU Lite scenario…

            And I am hopeful that is not the End Game… we really need to get all humans exterminated… this monstrosity needs to be stopped.

        • the rich cannot maintain their lifestyles without the rest of us using ‘resources’ to sustain the economic system that supports us all

          If nobody can afford to buy ‘stuff’ from Amazon. Bezos’ empire collapses.

          empty sheds are worth nothing.

          Maybe he’s figured that out, maybe he hasn’t.

          It isn’t possible to sustain an economic system by just selling oil to fuel rich people’s yachts and private jets.

          you can’t have peasants working in the fields to feed a rich elite–not for very long anyway. They find other uses for their pitchforks.

          our system just doesn’t work that way.

      • Mike Roberts says:

        Gail, it wasn’t a court that imposed the ban. Governments that impose such bans risk being voted out in the next election as so many people feel the need to travel to other countries.

        Luckily for Australians, they can visit New Zealand!

  44. Fast Eddy says:

    Australia’s drug regulator is considering referring Covid vaccine misinformation posts to the federal police, after anti-vaccine campaigners targeted a Labor MP who posted about getting the jab.

    In response to a viral post of Labor backbencher Julian Hill receiving his vaccine, numerous users posted false material purportedly from the Therapeutic Goods Administration wrongly claiming Covid-19 vaccines have caused more than 200 deaths.

    The figure they used was in fact the number of people who have died after receiving the vaccine, but apart from one case, none have been linked by the TGA to the vaccine.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/01/australias-drug-regulator-may-refer-anti-vaccination-facebook-posts-to-federal-police

    Yes of course…

    • Xabier says:

      Ha!

      ‘The prisoner, spontaneously and of the own free will, threw themselves out of the 5th floor window., despite being mannacled and blindfolded.

      There is absolutely no connection with the actions of any of the 4 police officers present’, said the Ministry of Truth and Justice.

  45. Mirror on the wall says:

    UK service exports to the EU were down by £110 B, before Brexit was even finalised. Services were excluded from the Brexit trade deal. The flood of service companies out of the UK is expected to resume once c 19 lockdowns subside.

    > Brexit shrank UK services exports by £110bn, academics find

    Research shows that financial services exports were hardest hit over four-year period

    Brexit shrank UK services exports by more than £110bn over a four-year period, new research shows, highlighting the far-reaching trade implications of Britain’s decision to break away from the EU.

    Experts at Aston University in Birmingham found that UK services exports from 2016 to 2019 were cumulatively £113bn lower than they would have been had the UK not voted to quit the EU in June 2016. 

    The researchers calculated the figure by projecting how industries from IT and finance to business services would have grown if they had continued on their previous paths, and compared that with how they had actually progressed since the vote for Brexit. The gap was £113bn. 

    “What we find raises serious concerns about the damage to the UK’s services trade position and the likely spillovers to the economy and jobs related to the services sectors,” said Jun Du, professor of economics at Aston Business School. 

    The findings point to the underlying challenges UK services exporters will face in maintaining trade with the EU after the conclusion of the UK’s post-Brexit deal with Brussels.

    The agreement contains minimal provisions on financial and professional services — industries that are crucial to Britain’s economy. In 2019 the UK ran an £18bn surplus in services trade with the EU, against a deficit of £97bn in goods.

    Data for 2020 were not included in the Aston study because the pandemic has distorted economies so greatly. Du told the Financial Times that the trend of services companies moving away from the UK could accelerate as the pandemic’s influence fades. 

    “The Covid period created difficulties in moving business and individuals [which] slowed down this relocation process . . . it will now pick up, and get worse as businesses see that there is not much going on in UK-EU negotiations. I think this is only the beginning,” she said. 

    Financial services exports were the hardest hit, in monetary terms, as banks, insurers and asset managers moved thousands of people and billions in capital from hubs in the City and Canary Wharf to new centres in Frankfurt, Paris, Amsterdam and Dublin so they could trade seamlessly with clients after Brexit. The other most-affected UK sectors included business services, travel, transport and IT, Aston’s research found.

    https://www.ft.com/content/20a626ab-d221-43e6-9990-bfd1e1ff132d

    • Mirror on the wall says:

      UK goods trade with the EU is also down by 23% so far.

      > Brexit disruption saw UK goods trade with EU plunge by 23% in first quarter

      The UK’s trade in goods with EU countries fell by 23 per cent in the first quarter of the year, with exports to Ireland particularly badly hit by Brexit-related disruption.

      Trade with non-EU countries was down by only 0.8 per cent, official figures show. The data was compared with 2018 because that was the last time that UK trade patterns were “relatively stable”, the Office for National Statistics (ONS) said in its latest analysis of the impact of Brexit and the coronavirus on the UK economy.

      Excluding precious metals, imports of goods from EU countries fell by £14bn (or 21.7 per cent) between the final three months of 2020 and the first three months of 2021.

      Exports decreased by £7.1bn (18.1 per cent). The falls were consistent across a number of trading partners, the ONS said.

      https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/brexit-trade-uk-eu-latest-b1853343.html

    • Mirror on the wall says:

      Time is running out to get residency. Robert, have you sorted yours in Malta?

      > Britons face one-month deadline to retain rights in four EU countries

      Tens of thousands of British nationals in four EU member states have yet to apply for post-Brexit residence, meaning they risk losing the right to live and work there unless they file their demands within 30 days.

      UK citizens living in France, Malta, Luxembourg and Latvia have until 30 June to apply to secure their post-Brexit rights. The Netherlands did have the same deadline, but on Monday extended it to 1 October.

      https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/may/31/britons-face-deadline-retain-rights-five-eu-countries-brexit

    • Every country is going to need to become more self-reliant now. This is precisely the opposite of globalization.

  46. Fast Eddy says:

    Here’s how close we are to a car that can drive itself…

    Sum :
    To help us avoid spam, please add 2 and 3 and enter the answer in the box

    3+2

    Seems AI is unable to handle that…

  47. Fast Eddy says:

    Amusing… BBC Hit List: https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/category/bbc/

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