Most people seem to think that the world economy is going through a temporary disruption, caused by a novel coronavirus. As soon as COVID-19 goes away, they expect the economy will be back to normal. I think that this assessment is overly optimistic. The way I see the situation, the world economy was already having severe growth problems, caused indirectly by resource problems, even before COVID-19 hit.
In a growing world economy, a person might expect that workers would be getting richer, so that they could afford an increasing quantity of goods and services. What we really see is something very different. The number of new automobiles sold was falling in many major countries long before COVID-19 hit, even as population was generally rising. Clearly, something was seriously wrong.
As I see the situation, the world has a resource problem. Resources of many kinds, including fresh water, energy products, and minerals of many kinds were becoming more difficult (and expensive) to extract, even before 2020. Substitution might have worked if the problem were only one or two resources, but not with several major resources. Cutting back was the only answer.
Thus, the shutdowns for COVID-19 came at a convenient time, allowing economies that were already doing poorly to shut down. Needless to say, there was no world leader who was willing to explain this hidden issue to the world population. Instead, world leaders used standardized code words such as “we need to move to renewables” or “we need to reduce carbon use by 2050 to prevent climate change.” Unfortunately, the ability to move to alternatives in this time frame is simply an illusion, allowing world leaders to avoid mentioning the serious resource issues that the world economy is really facing.
I expect that within a few months, a new crisis of some sort (perhaps financial) will come along, further reducing resource use. This will happen, whether or not the problem of the novel coronavirus is solved. In this post, I will try to explain the situation.
[1] The world’s economy is a self-organizing system, powered by the laws of physics. It requires a mix of resources, including energy resources, to operate.
The laws of physics require that energy be “dissipated” whenever activities we associate with generating GDP take place. For example, if a person is to drive a truck, he/she will need to eat food for his/her own personal energy. This food is “dissipated” by digestion. If the truck is to transport goods, it will need to burn some type of fuel, such as diesel. This fuel is dissipated by burning. If a computer is to operate, it will need to dissipate electricity. If a room (or a liquid) is to be heated or cooled, some sort of energy dissipation will be required.
The world economy grows in a very orderly manner. It gradually adds population, as more babies are born than people die. All of these people need food and fresh water; they also need some type of housing and clothing to protect them from the elements. Ideally, they need some type of transportation in addition to walking. Businesses are formed to enable access to goods and services that fill these needs. Governments are also formed to provide services used by all and to regulate the system. A financial system is formed to facilitate transactions, among other things.
The world economy cannot slow down and quickly restart. This is especially the case for an economy that had already started slowing, even before the 2020 pandemic. If not enough resources of the right kinds were available to enable true economic growth before the pandemic, it is hard to see how the situation would be very much improved a year later.
One key to understanding how a self-organizing economy works is to understand that the economy is multi-sided. Businesses need to make an adequate profit, to continue in operation. Workers need to earn an adequate wage to raise a family. Customers need affordable prices. Shortages of inexpensive-to-extract resources can lead to many different problems: lack of profitability for producers, or too much wage disparity among workers, or too high prices for customers. Resource shortages can also lead to people with inadequate wages wanting to migrate. They can also lead to empty shelves in stores.
[2] Depleted coal mines near population centers in China have adversely affected the Chinese economy more than it tells the outside world.
China joined the World Trade Organization (WTO) in December 2001. The Kyoto Protocol mandated that 37 industrialized nations cut their greenhouse gas emissions. More than 100 developing countries, including China and India, were exempt from the treaty. This combination of events allowed China to greatly ramp up its economy, building many new roads, factories and housing units from concrete, with little competition from the 37 industrialized economies.
China had very large coal resources, which it ramped up (Figure 2). Of course, this greatly increased world coal consumption, an effect precisely the opposite of the stated purpose of the Kyoto Protocol–to reduce world CO2 emissions.
The problem that China ran into about 2013 was that its coal mines, especially those near population centers, began depleting. The cost of extraction started rising because the thickest coal seams, closest to the surface, were badly depleted. In theory, there was still a great deal more coal available from those mines if the price would rise sufficiently high. Coal from new mines that were more distant from population centers might also be used if the price would rise high enough to include overland transport costs.
Coal prices didn’t rise to match the higher cost of production. If they had risen, they would have raised the cost of many goods manufactured for export, making these industries less profitable. Because coal prices stayed too low for coal producers, over 70% of China’s coal companies were reported to be unprofitable by the first half of 2014.
China closed unprofitable mines and added new mines at more distant locations. China’s coal production has struggled in recent years. A constant problem has been keeping coal prices high enough to cover the rising cost of extraction and delivery to population centers. There are recent indications that coal supply is inadequate: Parts of China experienced rolling blackouts in the winter of 2020-2021, and warnings have been given to expect possible electricity shortages this summer. China has been accepting few coal imports, largely because it wants to keep its local prices sufficiently high that its own coal producers can be profitable.
China uses coal in many ways, including generating electricity, making steel, and manufacturing cement, which is the most important ingredient in concrete. Concrete is used in producing roads, bridges and buildings of all types, including high rise buildings used in many places in China.
Figure 3 shows that China’s cement production fell at a time similar to that at which coal production “flattened out.” This would not be surprising if a shortage of coal led China to cut back on its use of cement in order to save coal for electricity production.
China, like other countries, has been seeing its population rise. Figure 4 shows coal and cement amounts for China on a per capita basis. This approach shows that, viewed on a per person basis, both coal consumption and concrete production have been falling since about 2013-2014. In fact, coal consumption began to fall slightly before cement production, suggesting that the fall in coal consumption is the cause of the fall in cement production.
[3] A decrease in new home building in the United States after 2008, as well as the recent difficulty in ramping construction back up again, are further evidence that the world is reaching resource limits of some kind.
Figure 5, above, shows that the number of new single-family housing units, relative to population, dropped dramatically after late 2005, early 2006. (This was when US Federal Reserve target interest rates rose, leading to higher borrowing costs for both builders and purchasers.) New home building plunged before and during the Great Recession. Building of new units has not ramped up very much, since then.
Even in 2020 and early 2021, the number of new units being started is very low by historical standards. It certainly wouldn’t be surprising if a lack of resources is part of what is depressing new home production. It may also be causing the spurt in resource prices (for example, lumber and copper) when new-home production does try to ramp up.
[4] World oil production seems to be falling for the same reason that China’s coal production stopped growing: Prices are too low for producers because of depletion issues. Oil producers cannot make an adequate profit, so they are reducing production.
World crude oil production was at its highest level ever in 2018. It has fallen ever since.
Figure 7 shows that oil production has been falling in many parts of the world in recent years.
The shining star of crude oil production, at least until recently, has been the United States with its shale oil production.
Unfortunately, with low prices, US shale oil is unprofitable. Shale production fell in 2020, and indications for the year 2021 are down as well.
Worldwide, the oil industry seems to require a price of $120 per barrel or more to make investment in new production profitable, and current prices are far below this. Part of this high price is required to provide adequate tax revenue for oil exporting countries that are dependent on this revenue.
[5] Relative to population, worldwide oil and coal consumption reached its highest level in 2007. It has fallen recently.
Figure 9 shows that on a per capita basis, combined oil and coal consumption reached its highest level in 2007 and dipped during the Great Recession. It reached somewhat of a plateau in the 2011 to 2013 period, but started slipping in 2014 and had fallen ever since. Those who follow oil prices closely will notice that combined oil and coal consumption per capita tends to be high when oil prices are high relative to other goods; consumption tends to be low when oil prices are low. The lower per capita oil and coal consumption since 2007 would be expected to hold back the production of “goods” of many kinds, including houses, automobiles, roads and electrical transmission lines.
The “All Other” category is really not a stand-alone category. It depends on oil and coal for its pipelines and electrical transmission, among other things. Without concrete bases, it would be difficult to have wind turbines. Solar panels without steel supports wouldn’t work well either. In theory, if a huge amount of transition were done, perhaps steel and concrete could be produced in reasonable quantities with only the “All Other” types of energy, but someone would need to figure out precisely how this could be accomplished, including the timeframe required.
[6] Inadequate fresh water supplies are a problem in many parts of the world.
The standard approach to getting fresh water has been to tap underground aquifers and tap them at rates far greater than they are refreshed. In some places, this leads to saltwater intrusion; in others, it leads to a falling water table. Some examples of areas with water problems include California, Saudi Arabia, India, China, and Cuba.
There are ways to work around these problems:
- Digging deeper wells
- Piping fresh water from a distance, nearly always uphill
- Desalination
Implementing any of these workarounds for water shortages takes energy of different kinds, mostly coal (to make steel) and oil (for transporting goods and extracting metal ores). These workarounds make the cost of fresh water higher. Higher water costs are especially a problem for agriculture and for poor families, struggling with budgets that cover little more than the price of food and water.
If fixes for the fresh water supply problem cannot be found, irrigation will need to be cut back. Such a change would likely lead to a fall in world food supply.
[7] We are probably kidding ourselves if we think that production of semiconductor chips can be ramped up significantly in the future.
China is now a major producer for rare earth minerals, and it is practically the only processor of rare earth minerals. Semiconductor chips are created using rare earth minerals, water and huge amounts of heat in an exceptionally clean environment. The leading producer of chips is Taiwan, using raw materials from China. There is a long lead time required for building new factories. My concern arises because of the resource issues China and the rest of the world is facing.
We use semiconductor chips in many things, including computers, cell phones, automobiles and “smart” appliances. Without a ramp up in semiconductor chip production, many high-tech dreams for the future will likely remain only dreams.
[8] With a falling supply of coal and oil per capita and inadequate fresh water in many parts of the world, we have already reached the point where some types of “optional” activities need to be cut back.
An early optional activity that was cut back on was recycling. Oil prices fell in 2014, making the recycling of many types of goods, especially plastics, non-economic because the resale value of recycled products dropped with oil prices. China cut back greatly on its recycling efforts, effective January 1, 2018. Other countries have followed suit. China’s cutbacks on recycling allowed it to save its coal supplies (which were no longer growing, see Figures 2 and 4) for other activities that had the possibility of being more profitable.
In early 2020, cutbacks associated with the pandemic gave the world economy some “breathing room” with respect to resource shortages. Cutbacks in travel left more oil for other uses. Oil prices could drop back. This was especially helpful to countries that are big importers of oil, such as those in Figure 10, below. It is not surprising that some of the countries with the biggest oil import problems have been the most enthusiastic about travel cutbacks related to COVID-19.
[9] The world economy has a very serious resource problem. There seem to be three different approaches to hiding the problem, none of which will really solve the problem.
The serious problem that the world economy is encountering is the fact that the supply of both coal and oil are running short, especially when viewed on a per capita basis. The world is also very short of fresh water. China is affected as much, or more than, other countries by these problems. As a result, China’s future growth prospects are likely quite low, even though few are expecting this change. Without a continued strong forward “pull” from China, the world economy may be headed for “collapse,” a condition which has affected many civilizations in the past.
There seem to be three different approaches to doing something about the world’s resource limits problem, without mentioning the nature of the real underlying problem:
[a] Develop a “fear of future climate change” story by creating models that assume we have huge amounts of fossil fuels that can be burned in the future, even though the evidence is very much the opposite: We are “running out” of coal and oil right now, but in a different way than economists have theorized (low price, rather than high price). At the same time, argue that a transition to renewables (particularly intermittent wind and solar) is possible in the next 30 years. The fact that essential minerals for such a change, including copper and lithium, are themselves in short supply relative to the incredibly large quantities required, is overlooked. No one stops to calculate the true cost, measured in energy products and other materials, required by such a transition, either.
[b] Create a “fear of the coronavirus” story, and use it to keep people inside and away from traveling as much as possible. Emphasize the possibility of mutations. If people cut back on traveling, it saves oil. If they cut back on eating out and large celebrations such as weddings, it reduces food wastage. If a pandemic takes place, politicians can use it as an excuse to mitigate problems of many kinds:
- Reduce the need for imported oil, by keeping citizens at home
- Keep factories closed, without disclosing that the factories could not really operate at full capacity because of inadequate orders or missing raw materials
- Use shutdowns to keep order in areas disrupted by uprisings related to low wages
- Hide the problem of many failing stores and businesses behind a new “temporary” problem
- Give the politician a new sense of control with new rules related to the epidemic
It is disturbing that back in 2010, the Rockefeller Foundation was looking at using pandemics to control people when the foundation was examining possible workarounds for too large a population relative to resources.
[c] Hide the existing resource problem with more debt, to the extent possible. In fact, having a circulating coronavirus has assisted in this effort because everyone can see the need for more debt on a temporary basis, “until this problem goes away.” Of course, the resource problem is not going away, which means the world is likely headed for serious financial problems when the economy tries to ramp up again. See my post, Headed for a Collapsing Debt Bubble.
[10] My expectation is that the world economy will try to bounce back from this pandemic, but it won’t really be able to bounce back.
There really aren’t enough resources of any kind to pull the world economy much farther forward. A day of reckoning seems to be coming, probably in the next few months. The financial system looks like it is the weakest link. If the world economy dramatically slows, borrowers will not be able to repay debt with interest. There may be rapid shifts in currency relativities, disrupting derivatives markets. International trade will become less and less possible, perhaps taking place only among a few trusted partners.
We seem to be headed for a rapidly changing world economy, and unfortunately not for the better.
Where’s Michael with his tales of CovIDIOTS maiming and killing themselves with The Injection?
https://coronacircus.com/2021/05/20/accelerationism-and-new-world-order/
Conclusion
For over a year we have been deciphering the barbarians’ agenda, illustrating our articles with numerous examples; in particular we’ve been insisting there might be more to the coronacircus than an obvious takeover using a pseudopandemic as pretext.
For example, in our Bill Gates post, we concluded by saying: “we find him to be too caricatural and obvious a villain […] we see him as an instrument of the uprisings central planners are looking to foster; his highly-publicized relationship with Jeffrey Epstein adds credence to this”. Now that every last MSM outlet is “outing” his relationship with the renowned child trafficker, we feel comforted in this view.
None of this would be clear however without the eschatological component, and understanding the central planners’ endeavor to bring in a “new age”, which rests in barbaric, medieval superstitions. It is only in such a context that it fully makes sense; we know they want revolt; we know they want war; we know they want some kind of “savior” to manifest at some point; and we can tell they are progressing towards that goal.
There is a Magical operation of maximum importance: the Initiation of a New Aeon. When it becomes necessary to utter a Word, the whole Planet must be bathed in blood. Before man is ready to accept the Law of Thelema, the Great War must be fought. This Bloody Sacrifice is the critical point of the World-Ceremony of the Proclamation of Horus, the Crowned and conquering Child, as Lord of the Aeon.
Aleister Crowley, Magick (1997), Book 4 (source).
The dream of world domination is an old one indeed; from Alexander to Charlemagne, Napoleon to Hitler, Caesar to Stalin. Every one of these freaks was similarly driven by some occult, messianic psychosis. They have all failed, because Nature abhors central planning, and individual conscience always proves to be too formidable an obstacle. Awaiting this inevitable failure, one would still be well advised to find a remote location to hunker down for a while.
The link does not seem to work.
However, you may be right.
It looks from the link as if the title of this article is something like “Accelerationism and the New World Order.”
According to an article at this link:
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2016/08/what-accelerationism
I have read it, and it’s excellent, thank you;
I love this one: “Confronted with economic depression and faced with such a level of incompetence and corruption, the people will blame their leaders, and bring out the guillotines.”
This is what I want to do each morning when I wake up!
Wife just returned from appt. with holistic eye doctor. He told her that he has seen 5 people that have gone blind from the vax. All after the 2nd shot. (4 Moderna & 1 Pfizer). We live in a small town, so those #’s are big!
https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/2021/05/24/covid19-the-end-of-scientific-discussion/#comments
Holistic eye doctor??
I don’t normally reply to your daft comments
but sceptical alarm bells going off there. The ‘holistic’ eye doc tells of people regularly going blind in your local town. Are the editors of local newspapers/tv stations all in on this vax ‘cover up’ or something?
Or is somebody making it up? Surely not?
do you seriously expect people to believe that people are regularly being being blinded by vax injections? And nobody has picked up on it? Stretching credibility somewhat there I think
When my significant other had a problem needing an eye doc, (discovered by normal optician visit) we shot off to Moorfields, London. (world class )
saw the top man, who fixed it sharpish. (it would have been very serious if ignored) ‘Holistic” attention would have left her blind in one eye.
Visit holistic medicine man for aches and pains by all means, (I’ve found acupuncture excellent) but there a certain probs that need the attention of proper doctors.
It may well be true, and even if there were to be a little exaggeration by that guy. But let’s look at firm figures, shall we?
About three dozen people have been recorded as blinded in the UK, so far – it is a known side-effect of the injections, and indeed potentially of vaccines in general.
That’s why extended trials are usually held, as in 8 years or so. Whoops, that didn’t happen his time, for some reason……
Just look it up in the official stats!
Imagine, waiting a whole year for Safety and Hope (TM) and you lose your sight!
We must hang those who are knowingly inflicting this on us.
maybe looking in the wrong place
but can find no references to blindness caused directly by vax
(‘exaggerating’ blindness effects arouses suspicions about mental stability and personal motives–particularly in a person professing to be competent around eye treatments)
Go to https://yellowcard.ukcolumn.org/yellow-card-reports
Select category “Eye Disorders”
Enter “Blindness” as the Reaction name
Click on the red “Show Results” button
I must be a masochist—but thanks for the link to ‘UK column’–I hadn’t seen it before. I like to be made aware of stuff like that.
‘UK column’ set off mental warning bells. I wasn’t wrong. An independent multi media website
have you looked at the ‘UK column’ website? Really taken it in? Stopped to think for yourself?
I would have thought such a pile of conspiro-garbage was below the average trough level of OFW readers.
But no—this is supposed to be ‘the truth’.
Item after item, such a pile of nonsense as to be embarrassing to read, , not to me—but embarrassing on behalf of those who digest it and regurgitate it as their chosen brand of current reality. rehashed from, in part, existing news material of course
—just so screamingly obviously made up by a bunch of clowns with nothing better to do. knowing that out there there will be minds naive enough to nod in agreement.
As I’ve pointed out before, none of this was available or possible till the advent of mass social media. Now every self appointed genius has a bullhorn, knowing that out there he will find fellow morons eager to digest his every spoken syllable of ‘wisdom’—
Erm, the UK column website links directly to the official MHRA yellow card vaccine adverse events reporting system. There are currently 230 instances listed of people having been blinded by covid19 vaccines.
I can’t address your other concerns about UK column unless you are a little more specific in your criticisms. Seems to me there is more truth on this website than you will ever find in the MSM.
Can you point to an article in the MSM reporting on the huge anti lockdown demonstrations in London the last three Saturdays?
Is not not incredible that the great masses of goy (cattle) are unable to see the hoax?
It really started when YT removed the presentation from the two doctors in California who ran covid testing labs and called BS… I know a few people who’s eyebrows raised at the time… however when the MSM rolled out their campaign of ridicule and mockery… the eyebrows lowered and their tiny brains embraced the catch phrases and they dismissed the censorship with ‘fake news should be censored’
I tried to point a goy to the Great Barrington site — the response was ‘that’s funded by the Koch Brothers’….. again embracing MSM spew…
stu p id is too kind a word for the goy.
The European database I linked to earlier has 4,743 cases of eye disorders for the Pfizer injection alone. How serious they are is not specified. But you know, blood clots blocking the capillaries of one or both eyes can do all sorts of mischief.
To put a name to the anonymous stats, Mike Yardley the renowned English shotgun teacher and writer, tweeted that he told the NHS Vaxx team that he had a tendency to clots.
They said nothing could go wrong, it was completely safe.
He ended up seriously ill from a clot, and nearly died.
The death totals rightly draw attention, but those with serious complications, of whom there are many more, suffer greatly and may have been only just pulled back from the grave.
“‘There are ghosts in the land’: how US mega-dairies are killing off small farms…
“Across the US, dairy farmers have struggled beneath the weight of an industry-wide economic crisis. The cause is the massive overproduction of milk by large dairy operations, which has saturated the market, driving prices down well below the cost of production.”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/jun/01/there-are-ghosts-in-the-land-how-us-mega-dairies-are-killing-off-small-farms
These dairy corporations basically boil down to concentration of wealth. Once the last local farmer is driven out of business I would expect these corporations to unleash higher prices for milk and a top down consolidation of grain production, transportation etc. A Wal-Mart like squeeze on suppliers and the whole production and distribution network. Gates isn’t buying farmland because he likes farming anymore than he likes medicine. It’s about control. Meanwhile destruction of roads, contamination or depletion or water supplies will be forced upon local citizenry, whose standards of living will decline. Kind of sounds like this shale oil racket. Sherman’s march to the sea will have nothing on these corporations.
But economies of scale means that former profits among local people and traditional farms are simply shifted to corporations and shareholders who may not even live in the state. The “savings” go somewhere-follow the money- as do the costs. Are these big corporations being subsidized by financialization through easy borrowing of fiat dollars and the Cantillon effect, tax breaks, and leaving the locals to have to face cleanup and damage control? Follow the energy and financial pedigree of these operations, and wait for the higher food costs once this surplus production ends.
Quite right, they will crush the smaller, and often higher-quality producers, and then crush us. It’s all so very obvious.
They intend to leave no aspect of life untouched, unmonitored, uncontrolled.
I must start to get used to eating birch bark, or something…..
We seem to run into this in quite a few industries. The big producers can do things cheaply. People aren’t necessarily eating a lot more dairy products, either.
“Crypto Assets a Great Concern, Says Ireland’s Central Bank Enforcer.
““Crypto assets are quite a speculative, unregulated investment,” and people should be “really aware they could lose the whole of that investment,” the central bank’s director general for financial conduct said in an interview.”
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-31/crypto-assets-a-great-concern-says-central-bank-enforcer
“Banks block payments to crypto exchanges…
“Banks are cracking down on transfers to cryptocurrency exchanges by suspending payments to the sector amid rising fears that it has become a hotbed for financial crime… Customers of banks including Barclays, Monzo and Starling are among those to have been blocked…”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2021/05/29/banks-block-payments-crypto-exchanges/
Suspending payments for cryptocurrency leaves those with the currency with little that they can do with the currency.
“Horses starve to death as pandemic hits Bangladesh tourism.
“The South Asian nation of 168 million people is battling a fresh wave of coronavirus infections that has stretched its healthcare system and triggered a nationwide lockdown. The horses’ owners said they were struggling to afford fodder for their animals…”
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20210530-horses-starve-to-death-as-pandemic-hits-bangladesh-tourism
“Hunger stalks India’s poor in pandemic double blow…
“The coronavirus has killed 160,000 in eight weeks, overwhelmed hospitals and shut many businesses in India. Experts warn that another crisis is looming, with rising levels of hunger among poor Indians already reeling from a first lockdown last year.”
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20210530-hunger-stalks-india-s-poor-in-pandemic-double-blow
I suppose that unneeded horses could be low on the pecking order for food. Better than poor people starving to death.
“France is ready to start reducing financial support to businesses and workers hit by coronavirus restrictions as its vaccination program offers a route out of the crisis, Labor Minister Elisabeth Borne said on Sunday.”
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-30/france-is-ready-to-start-cutting-back-crisis-aid-minister-says
“Call for protection on Covid loan debts [UK] as the bounce-back payback begins…
“…campaigners say banks may find it difficult to do right by struggling borrowers, given the pressure to recover cash, [which] could lead to a run of bankruptcies.”
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/may/30/call-for-protection-on-covid-loan-debts-as-the-bounce-back-payback-begins
When, oh when, has a BANK ever, in the whole or history, tried to ‘do right’ by debtors?!!!
All on target for destroying SME’s, I’d say……
The banks are apparently anxious about bad publicity as they try to recoup these loans… which is why they will hire aggressive debt-collection agencies as intermediaries to take the flack. 😆
The benefits holding up businesses and workers have to end sometime. It seems like a big “oops” moment is likely, as support is withdrawn. Instead of pumping up shares of stock of businesses, it should have the opposite effect.
“UK water retailers face collapse due to unpaid bills…
“Most participants in the market were lossmaking before the pandemic but an increase in non-payments during lockdown has piled on the pressure. There is now a “material risk of systemic retailer failure”, said the report by the consultancy Economic Insight.”
https://www.ft.com/content/3d4b3a6d-105a-4458-a663-167a9ebdb517
“Britain’s energy market regulator Ofgem said on Monday it will invest 300 million pounds ($425 million) in more than 200 low-carbon infrastructure projects to prepare the country for more electric transport and heat.”
https://www.reuters.com/business/sustainable-business/uks-ofgem-invest-425-mln-electric-vehicle-infrastructure-2021-05-24/
Electric vehicle infrastructure sounds like a waste of money.
People need water to survive, so water retailers must be kept operating. Someone needs to think this through.
when water is made to flow artificially, it carries embodied energy
if people can’t afford that energy
it will cease to flow
“‘Wuhan lab leak’ may be the biggest economic shock for decades: If intelligence services find a Chinese lab really did create Covid then global trade would collapse, triggering a huge financial crisis…
“Here is the important question for the markets… and one no one is thinking about yet: what if it is true? It would be the biggest shock to the global economy in decades. Why? Because governments would surely have no choice but to retaliate with sanctions and demands for full-scale reparations.”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2021/05/31/wuhan-lab-leak-may-biggest-economic-shock-decades/
“How [Australian] housing prices could crash if China takes revenge and cuts off Australia’s iron ore – and it’s only a matter of time…
“The communist superpower has indicated plans to axe Australia’s biggest export earner and diversify its iron ore supplies as tensions between the two nations continue to simmer.”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9638179/Housing-prices-crash-China-takes-revenge-cuts-Australias-iron-ore.html
“China’s factory activities growth started a slowdown in May as Chinese firms are struggling with higher raw material costs…
“Although China continues its economic recovery from COVID-19, officials warn that the foundations of the recovery are not secure due to higher raw material prices and the outbreak of COVID-19 in parts of the world.”
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/china-factory-activities-slow-down-022529766.html
“Pakistan economic crisis intensifies as China refuses to provide debt relief…
“Islamabad has requested Beijing to forgive debt liabilities owed to China-funded energy projects established under the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor… Media reports suggest that China has refused to budge on Islamabad’s request to renegotiate the power purchase agreements.”
https://www.aninews.in/news/world/asia/pakistan-economic-crisis-intensifies-as-china-refuses-to-provide-debt-relief20210530223848/
I expect that China cannot afford to forgive all of the loans it made to other countries, even though many/ most of the projects are not generating enough funds to pay back the funds.
With higher costs of materials, producers have a choice:
(1) Try to pass the higher costs on to customers, and lose some customers. Profits will fall, because of fewer customers.
(2) Don’t try to pass the higher costs on to customers. In this case, sales might stay the same, but profits are lost on every sale. If customers’ budgets are stretched because other manufacturers are raising prices, the number of sales might still drop, even if the manufacturer doesn’t raise prices.
There is nothing that can be done to keep the system operating as usual, if commodity prices are spiking to any significant degree. After a lag, the economy will contract, because business owners need to lay off workers to reflect falling demand.
Except that labs everywhere were in on the manufacture of the virus.
Harry,
How do they collect? What do they sanction? Should they sanction, where to they source items made in China? If they sanction a critical part, what happens to jobs in the sanctioning country?
Seems like a long round of meetings followed by some sort of announcement, etc., etc.
Dennis L.
I hope she injects herself and her baby… and… 🙂
https://www.cbc.ca/parents/learning/view/pandemic-baby-rules-sabrina-boileau
https://youtu.be/x-7cYNN48DA
https://www.quora.com/What-would-the-world-be-like-if-society-collapsed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKcAYMb5uk4
CEP.
Can COVID Vaccines ‘Shed’ or Transmit Infection?
Disturbingly, it appears the COVID-19 vaccines may also cause trouble for those who decide not to get the shots but spend time in close proximity to people who did. While it cannot be viral shedding, as none of the vaccines use live or even attenuated virus, there appears to be some sort of spike protein transmission going on.
While the spike protein cannot replicate or multiply like a virus, it is toxic in and of itself. In her paper, Seneff details how the spike protein acts as a metabolic poison, capable of triggering pathological damage leading to lung damage and heart and brain diseases:6
https://noqreport.com/2021/05/30/dr-mercola-the-many-ways-in-which-covid-vaccines-may-harm-your-health/
Jeezus… this all sounds so fantastic! Hopefully it’s actually even worse than they are suggesting…
Let’s not dismiss GVB and Devil Covid though… that’s also a great outcome.
I’ve seen the reports that the unvaccinated can be harmed merely by being in close proximity to a vaccinated person and I find them hard to believe. Just think about how tiny the dose of spike proteins the unvaccinated would receive compared to the vaccinated. We’re talking here about a tiny fraction of far less than, say, one millionth. If the unvaccinated could be harmed by such a tiny dose, the vaccinated would drop dead instantly.
I’ve made a very similar reasoning, seems unlikely to me. But who knows ? One can only wonder how much of these stories are actually spread on purpose to try to ridicule those critical enough to realize that something isn’t quite right. It is often best to stick to the more simple talking points (new type of tech, emergency use only, don’t really know long term effects, increased short term adverse effects etc..).
What is so amazing is that even though there are grounds enough for concern just looking at the basics (nevermind if a CEP is actually going down or not) they seem to always try to draw you in on things that are likely to seem far-fetched to mainstream followers, because than they can say “see you are crazy and therefore everything else you flagged up cannot be true”, even though some of those concerns are quite pertinent and to the point.
Whenever i get anybody remotely close to acknowledge maybe something isn’t quite right (already a success in its own terms !!) they will respond with “but why would they do that ???” As if somehow not knowing the full answer to that somehow diminishes the value of the earlier arguments and conclusions….
I agree, the best foundation for all discussion is to point out the total lack of mid and long-term safety data, no extended and extensive testing, plus worrying – and very rapidly-growing – adverse effects and deaths.
And the fact that Billl Gates is probably Satan.
The Spike Protein Is the Bioweapon
As noted by Mikovits, we now know that the worst symptoms of COVID-19 are created by the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein, and that is the very thing these gene-based vaccines are instructing your body to make. But it’s far worse, as the vaccines do not cause your body to make the same spike protein as SARS-CoV-2 but one that has been genetically modified, making it far more toxic. So, it’s no wonder things are going wrong.
“The SARS-CoV-2 infection never was what they said it was,” Mikovits says. “There was no infection asymptomatically. It’s a monkey virus coming out of a monkey cell line and that’s the problem, but the spike protein is clearly [causing] the disease.
So, you just injected the envelope of HIV … a syncytin gammaretrovirus envelope, and a SARS S2 receptor binding domain. That’s not a vaccine. It is the disease-causing agent. It’s a bioweapon. So now your cells are all producing that bioweapon and you’re going to take out the innate immunity, NK [natural killer] cells and dendritic cells …
You’re going to disrupt your white blood cells, your immune response. You’re going to turn on an anti-inflammatory cytokine signature in every cell of your body. It exhausts your NK cells’ ability to determine infected cells. It’s the nightmare we predicted.”
https://noqreport.com/2021/05/30/dr-mercola-the-many-ways-in-which-covid-vaccines-may-harm-your-health/
I don’t know if you all might be interested, but I would like to give my opinion about Covid-19 and vaccines.
Covid-19 is most probably man made and comes probably from the work of different laboratories.
It is not clear if it went out on purpose or by mistake.
If it is on purpose, some additional considerations could be made, but I would go on too far and too pessimistic.
It probably comes from biological war research and it comes from (from what I understood they do, just reading on internet) dual purpose research, therefore: create a virus and develop an antidote (vaccine).
Military, Intelligence, Governments are all aware of what happened.
From what I’ve read, dual purpose research comes in the same way rockets and anti-rockets are created, in fact, a Country, developing a bioweapon, wants also to develop some sort of anti-rockets defence (vaccines).
That’s way military are involved and are giving their contribute in this vaccination campaign (I don’t have anything against military in general, it is something necessary to human societies like police and I appreciate their work).
This strategy is also a way to make some fine-tuning on this some sort of anti-rockets strategy for the next time it will happen (that’s way they all say: we must prepare for the next pandemic, i.e. war).
Does this strategy create some collateral deaths? Yes, probably, but for them it makes sense to complete this effort.
Does this strategy want to kill people intentionally? No, but deaths can come anyway.
In other words, if all the above is correct, they are convinced they are doing something good, although they are not totally in control of the situation, as it happens during a war not totally planned, but as it happens anyway in any war.
Then, of course, this strategy is also fully useful for other purposes, like control people during this economic collapse-phase and make some business earnings.
Like societies in general makes earnings selling weapons before or during a war.
In some way the virus came in a right timing.
The wild card is that this virus could be treated also with medicines, but it is something not easy acceptable, because it is like if a mechanic, trying to fix an engine, would be stopped by a boy dropping by and saying something correct to the mechanic. The mechanic wouldn’t like to listen to him, it is something out of his strategy and it would be a failure for him to listen to that suggestion.
I think you need to do some more reading about the subject. Even reading old comments and links might be helpful.
These days whenever I come across someone earnestly writing about “sustainability”, I usually burst out in a loud cackle, which does disturb my wife somewhat. There’s nothing remotely sustainable about the Western lifestyle. Just ride that sucker for all it’s worth baby, until the party’s over.
The Aborigines here in Australia did actually have a sustainable civilisation that lasted somewhere beyond 40,000 years. However it was close to a stone-age lifestyle with high levels of infanticide and violent deaths, as culturally acceptable ways of maintaining a viable population.
There is no way anybody raised in a Western lifestyle would contemplate, or survive an Aboriginal lifestyle. In fact most Aborigines can’t either now they’ve been exposed to it. It’s just too big a shift and too frickin’ hard.
E.g. the Aboriginal fire ceremony is used to open a lot of cultural events here. However most of the time after a bit of to and fro-ing with the traditional firesticks, the firestarter gets his lighter out and starts the fire that way. I was close to a firestarter once and he was puffing like crazy after a minute or so on the firesticks, before the lighter came out.
So please keep posting your best ideas for a sustainable future – I need all the laughs I can get.
On the money. You in Melbourne?
Melbourne aka lockdown central? No sirree.
Moved out of Sydney to rural mid north coast ~ 6 years ago. Great decision!
Same, here, Fred. I also cringe at the term “more sustainable”. It’s effective meaning is “unsustainable” but the one using “more sustainable” feels great about it.
I am not sure that the Aboriginal lifestyle was really sustainable. This is an article from 2019.
Did people or climate kill off the megafauna? Actually, it was both
Also, from 2012, How Aboriginal burning changed Australia’s climate
The virus shouldn’t exist.
“The laws of physics mean that you cannot have four positively-charged amino acids in a row. The only way you can get this is if you artificially manufacture it.”
It’s an artificial hybrid virus.
The spike proteins are the harmful part of the virus.
https://www.salk.edu/news-release/the-novel-coronavirus-spike-protein-plays-additional-key-role-in-illness/
The vaccines are all based on the spike proteins in some way or the other. Spike proteins in the blood are likely unhealthy. In most vaccine cases spike proteins dont enter the circulatory system. Of course it may be a matter of time. I don’t expect anyone actually know much about this.
Unfortunately, with these vaccines, as I understand the situation, your body learns how to make the spike proteins.
Spike proteins aren’t good. Even antibodies to spike proteins may not be good to have in your system.
ADAM BEAM. From AP Associate Press
Mon, May 31, 2021, 4:53 PM
SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — California state lawmakers are grappling with a particularly 21st-century problem: What to do with the growing number of shopping malls and big box retail stores left empty by consumers shifting their purchases to the web.
A possible answer in crowded California cities is to build housing on these sites, which already have ample parking and are close to existing neighborhoods.
But local zoning laws often don’t allow housing at these locations. Changing the zoning is such a hassle that many developers don’t bother trying. And it’s often not worth it for local governments to change the designations. They would prefer to find new retailers because sales taxes produce more revenue than residential property taxes.
However, with a stubborn housing shortage pushing prices to all-time highs, state lawmakers are moving to pass new laws to get around those barriers.
A bill that cleared the state Senate last week would let developers build houses on most commercial sites without changing the zoning. Another proposal would pay local governments to change the zoning to let developers build affordable housing.
“There has always been an incentive to chase retail and a disincentive to build housing,” said Sen. Anthony Portantino, a Los Angeles-area Democrat who authored the bill to pay local governments. “There is more dormant and vacant retail than ever.”
If successful, it’s believed California would be the first state to allow multi-family housing on commercial sites statewide, said Eric Phillips, vice president of policy and legislation for the California chapter of the American Planning Association. Developers who use the law still would have to obey locally approved design standards. But Phillips said the law would limit local governments’ ability to reject the projects.
The world will be owned by today’s tech moguls, who will introduce very strict technofeudalism, and all small businesses destroyed as described in Schwab’s book.
The can be kicked for practically an unlimited period of time for the elites, although that will mean disaster to most non-elites of the world. After all, Europe had 465 million on 1914, about 1/3 in less developed Russia and the balkans.
Mass impoverishment and depop in the poorer regions will be enough to kick the can for a very long time. Back to the world before 1914 but with much higher tech level.
@ Seamus
Today’s winners who will migrate to the space have enough drugs and psychological help to survive the long journey to their space destination.
There are new age masters, meditation masters and monks who will be allowed to join just to calm the winners on the journey. Preferably they will be thin so they would consume less resources.
They will first go to ISS, or other stations they will launch before they make their next leg of journey, plenty of time to acclimatize.
No they won’t.
If you’re not trolling, you should consider getting psychological help because you sound schizoid.
I think I remember Kulm from reddit/collapse. He is consistent in his predictions that the rich have already won the class war.
While I disagree with him, I have to admit that in the last year reality seems to agree with him – concentration of wealth has accelerated and now the oligarchs are controlling people like sheep.
But I still think he is wrong – the laws of physics impose sharp limits on surviving in space or high tech without fossil fuels.
“He is consistent in his predictions that the rich have already won the class war.”
The capitalists indeed won the class war because they were able to placate the working-class with access to a comfortable consumerist lifestyle: this will soon become a thing of the past. Kulstatusquo on the other hand seems to believe the capitalist oligarchs to be invincible gods who can circumvent the known laws of physics using magical technology that doesn’t exist and almost certainly never will.
” concentration of wealth has accelerated and now the oligarchs are controlling people like sheep.”
It’s not real wealth though, it’s just zeros on a screen. When collapse comes none of their legal claims to real property will mean anything and they won’t be able to pay the goons they used to enforce those claims.
In previous collapses, did the oligarchs win out? My knowledge of history is not good, but my impression is no. Turchin says that they tend to fight with each other, as resources deplete. Ultimately, the whole system is reorganized, without the current set of oligarchs, I would expect.
This is the main article on the BBC News website this morning:
‘Gene therapy is a game changer for our son’
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57309613
Gene therapy good. Anyone that suggests that this might not always be the case even if they provide govt medical data to prove it, bad. £1.795m a pop.
I met someone last week who told me that their sister was receiving gene therapy for Cystic fibrosis and that was also a ‘game changer’ for the sister. She seemed like an intelligent person, but was of the opinion, because gene therapy worked so well for her sister, all gene therapy was good and could not wait to get her second jab, whatever type it was.
Found these websites:
Cystic Fibrosis Trust – Gene therapy and gene editing
https://www.cysticfibrosis.org.uk/the-work-we-do/research/research-areas/gene-therapy
Cystic Fibrosis Foundation – Gene Therapy for Cystic Fibrosis
https://cff.org/Research/Research-Into-the-Disease/Restore-CFTR-Function/Gene-Therapy-for-Cystic-Fibrosis/
I cannot see any mention of potential negatives on either site.
Medline Plus, in an article called Is gene therapy safe? starts the article by saying:
I notice that the link you give does mention a drawback:
https://cff.org/Research/Research-Into-the-Disease/Restore-CFTR-Function/Gene-Therapy-for-Cystic-Fibrosis/
The article mentions that there would also be a non-integrating form, that might only last a few weeks or months.
The cost might be prohibitive, especially if it has to be repeated, I would expect.
The virus was created in a lab with 6 unique finger prints. It also contains 4 positively charged amino acids in a row, which breaks the laws of physics.
The virus doesn’t make natural mutations either by becoming more contagious but less dangerous.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9629563/amp/Chinese-scientists-created-COVID-19-lab-tried-cover-tracks-new-study-claims.html?__twitter_impression=true
So it doesn’t exist?
So the long term studies don’t exist?
The article writes about an academic study by Dr. Birger Sørensen (Norway) and Prof. Angus Dalgleish (UK) showing that the virus could only arise from a lab.
I see another article
https://in.news.yahoo.com/scientists-silenced-disappeared-study-says-033400508.html
It says, “In the 22-page paper which is set to be published in the scientific journal Quarterly Review of Biophysics Discovery, Dalgleish and Sorensen pieced together how Chinese scientists, some working with American universities, allegedly built the tools to create the coronavirus.”
So the study is being published in a journal where people can read it.
Koombaya BACKFIRES (it always does)
The notoriously violent Jalisco cartel has responded to Mexico’s “hugs, not bullets” policy with a policy of its own: The cartel kidnapped several members of an elite police force in the state of Guanajuato, tortured them to obtain names and addresses of fellow officers and is now hunting down and killing police at their homes, on their days off, in front of their families.
https://apnews.com/article/caribbean-mexico-police-f6ea7798ca3cc171ac13b3a5a6a6c266
Don’t think similar types will be on the loose come the end of BAU — everywhere.
Nobody will want to be alive when the electricity goes off – permanently.
A study by the General Social Survey, a public opinion poll conducted by a research center at the University of Chicago, 39% of American households own guns, up from 32% in 2016.
Separately, research data compiled by the FBI’s National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS), background checks that topped 1m a week in March 2020 – the highest since the government began tracking them in 1998 – and continued, with one week in April this year recording a record 1.2m checks. Background checks are seen as a reliable metric to track gun sales.
A third data study, compiled by Northeastern University and the Harvard Injury Control Research Center and seen by the New York Times, shows that 6.5% of US adults, or 17 million people, have purchased guns in the past year, up from 5.3% in 2019.
Of those, almost one fifth who bought guns last year were first-time gun owners of whom half were women, a fifth were Black and a fifth were Hispanic, challenging the stereotype of white male gun owners building personal arsenals. In 2021, gun owners overall were 63% male, 73% were white, 10% were Black and 12% Hispanic.
Separately, The Trace, a non-partisan group that tracks guns sales, estimates 2.3m guns were purchased in January alone. Sales, which had remained largely flat for the duration of the Trump presidency, jumped 64% in 2020, the group said.
Still, the increases are relatively small compared to the 400m guns estimated to already be in circulation, including at least 4m AR-15s, commonly described as assault rifles.
“Americans are in an arms race with themselves,” South Los Angeles city council representative Marqueece Harris-Dawson told the New York Times. “There was just as much a run on guns as on toilet paper in the beginning of the pandemic.”
From the Guardian.com
Yes, Fast Eddy, you are correct again….it will be ugly after the plug is pulled for BAU
There is a big difference in gun ownership by state. The highest states are those with a lot of wild animals that might attack humans. The lowest states are the densely populated ones of the Northeast. This is a map:
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/gun-ownership-by-state
This is a massive home page headline on BBG… what is interesting is the injection doesn’t stop the spread of covid … yet… yet…
The PR Team is in lie overdrive now.
Sinovac Shot Controls Covid in Brazil Town After 75% Covered
A study of a small Brazilian town vaccinated with the shot made by Sinovac Biotech Ltd. showed it can control Covid-19 outbreaks more effectively than expected from clinical testing, giving another boost to the Chinese-made inoculation that’s relied on by dozens of developing countries.
While neighboring cities were being hit hard by the pandemic, Serrana — a town of 45,000 people where the study was carried out by the Sao Paulo state government — saw deaths fall by 95% in the five weeks right after the mass-vaccination was completed. Symptomatic cases dropped by 80% and hospitalizations decreased by 86%.
About 75% of the town’s residents were fully vaccinated; of the target adult population, 95% came forward to receive both doses.
No severe side effects from the vaccine were reported and there were no Covid-related deaths among participants 14 days after the second dose was applied. The area around Serrana, some 315 kilometers (195 miles) from Sao Paulo, was overrun by the P1 variant during the study, affirming the jab’s effectiveness against the strain first found in Brazil, said Ricardo Palacios, research director at Butantan Institute.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-31/sinovac-shot-controlled-covid-in-brazil-town-after-75-covered?srnd=premium-asia
Just thinking about Wolf Richter… after someone posted how Twitter deletes anyone posting negative vaccine comments…
He is the epitome of idi ocy…. Not only does he refuse to engage in a debate — he will just delete anything that blows up his position.
I recall a few years ago posting that the global economy would collapse if population growth stopped.
He pretty much called me an id iot … I responded by posting a study from Yale University that indicates 30% of GDP is due to population growth….
He deleted it.
Wolf Richter is the worst kind of id iot. He’s the type of id iot you’d like to drag into in a dark alley and sort out….
I would not be surprised if he dresses in panties and has his wife whip him and call him a Bad Scrawny Nazi….
I don’t think this has been posted yet but please forgive me if it has.
The European database of suspected drug reaction reports is EudraVigilance, which also tracks reports of injuries and deaths following the experimental COVID-19 “vaccines.” It was launched by the European Medicines Agency in 2012 to provide public access to reports of suspected side effects (also known as suspected adverse drug reactions). These reports are submitted electronically to EudraVigilance by national medicines regulatory authorities and by pharmaceutical companies that hold marketing authorisations (licences) for the medicines.
Here’s what they have on Covid-19 injections. Their report through May 22, 2021 lists 12,184 deaths and 1,196,190 injuries following injections of four experimental COVID-19 shots. From the total of injuries recorded, there are 604,744 serious injuries which equals over 50% of thee reported injuries.
You can check out the EU records of individual brands of Covid-19 injectables here, and much much more.
https://www.adrreports.eu/en/search_subst.html#
Wow ! ,I wonder how this compares with other vaccines !!
I’m probably never going to get the jab, but… what’s the math base of total people jabbed? For simplicity, I will guess 100 million, though that sounds too low to me. So injury rate is 1.2% and serious injury rate is 0.6% and death rate is 0.01%, and of course if the base is more like 200 million then those rates could be half.
Similarly to VAERS, Eudravigilance is a passive reporting database thus cases are vastly under reported. Multiply those numbers by a factor 10 and you still would be under the mark.
Yeah right, nothing to see here
Source?
No source, as I don’t bother to keep them and concentrate on informing myself an moving on, but it has been generally accepted that such voluntary reporting systems capture only 10-15% of adverse effects.
There is no reason why that should not also be the case with the vaccine deaths.
Moreover, they are subject to deliberate under-reporting if the results would be embarrassing for the medical profession.
Even the under-reported totals of deaths and injuries are horrifying and unacceptable: a treatment being applied to 100% of a population should be far, far safer.
And these are only the short-term stats……
https://www.globalresearch.ca/alarming-casualty-rates-mrna-vaccines-warrant-urgent-action/5746343
No source for this either?
Or for this?
One might think that both claims seem reasonable, but are they? For such claims, surely there has been some kind of study to back them up or else they are just opinions. Neither claim, if true, would surprise me but I have no way of knowing if they are true so I can only think that they may or may not be true until there is some corroboration with data.
I’m not quite as skeptical about official data as many here but I am somewhat skeptical. However, I don’t just blanket assume that all official information is widely wrong or even wrong at all, even if I do treat it cautiously.
But what about the long term studies? I will persist….
VFatalis was expressing a personal opinion, Mike.
Do you insist on citations for personal opinions now?
I am still waiting for Mike to get me the info from that doc re the long term studies on the Injections…
Did I miss it Mike?
Please post again if i did
Well, the claim was made thusly, “Similarly to VAERS, Eudravigilance is a passive reporting database thus cases are vastly under reported” is an argument but without the working (it may be that a passive reporting system, in this case, could result in over-reporting or under-reporting but the doesn’t say anything about the quantity of either). Similarly, he/she claims “Multiply those numbers by a factor 10 and you still would be under the mark” again without anything to back it up. I hope none of us just makes stuff up and then believes it, so there must be something behind that belief. Or maybe it’s just wishful thinking?
Long term studies?
Very very keen on those…
Long term studies?
Hi Mike, in Britain the governments own advice on the percentages was
“It is estimated that only 10% of serious reactions and between 2 and 4% of non-serious reactions are reported.”
https://www.gov.uk/drug-safety-update/yellow-card-please-help-to-reverse-the-decline-in-reporting-of-suspected-adverse-drug-reactions
Not seen an updated report, although if you are interested, read the links for yellow card or Covid and count how many times they say words to the effect of “probably unrelated” and times that number by the amount of times they remind the public that it’s an experiment.
Easiest bit of arithmetic you’ll ever do😁
In the US, I don’t know but the Harvard study(less than 1%) that gets banded about might not be the smoking gun it’s reported to be.
That said, it might have some relevance but more than likely the wrong place to look, as mentioned in the below(no idea who this person is but he does supply links😏).
https://rickjaffeesq.com/2021/02/19/what-the-heck-is-the-harvard-pilgrim-study-and-did-it-really-say-that-about-the-underreporting-of-vaccine-adverse-events/
Apologies for commenting so late. A few days away, so just catching up.
Thanks, Fitz. Some more reasonable analysis that what is often seen in the comments section here. That UK yellow card advice is a couple of years old. What they would say about Covid vaccine adverse event reporting would be more interesting, especially if they provided sources.
Fascinating stuff here
Counting Covid’s Deceptive Deaths
A look at the unorthodox way in which Covid-19 deaths are registered shows the numbers don’t add up. https://off-guardian.org/2021/06/02/counting-covids-deceptive-deaths/
Kryptonite to CovIDIOTS… so they refuse to read it
Oh come on Tim … whoever is putting together those numbers is a MOREON… they don’t understand how the reporting system works… just like that idi ot mcullough
Let me explain ….
If you test positive for Covid even if you have no symptoms (you could be a 25 year old world class athlete) and you die from any cause within a month (you could get hit by a car running a marathon!)… you get counted as having died from Covid. Yep – that is FACT.
But if you are the same marathon runner and you get The Injection … and you drop dead from a blood clot in your brain or a heart attack the next day … The Injection is NOT the cause of death. Yep – FACT
How dare these people try to correlate The Injection with death. That is just ridiculous.
How dare they indeed! People are dying!
Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. 12,184 deaths and 1,196,190 injuries following injections is enemy action.
See here, old chap, in a war – and we are at war against the Terrible, Terrible Virus (TM) – what we like to call ‘friendly fire’ and ‘collateral damage’ are inevitable.
Dreadfully sad, but if you don’t ‘man up’ ,as those Yanks like to say, and rejoin the attack I shall be forced to shoot you – just to encourage the others, you understand.
Morale is so very important in war!
I exploded on someone who sent me this …
https://youtu.be/zgJfkb_gMvc
Referring them to this … which has resulted in the usual silence
https://rumble.com/vhp7y5-full-interview-world-renowned-doctor-blows-lid-off-of-covid-vaccine.html?mref=6gby3&mc=98uay
You must be one of those motherflippers they mention in the video.
How dare you not care about others. You are just like fat people eating all the food.
Tall people taking all the sunlight from height challenged individuals (short motherflippers).
Similar silence when I posted this:
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-covid-19-vaccine-holocaust-the-latest-antivaccine-messaging/
You will recall I asked if the person who wrote that had any of the long term safety studies for these injections…
And you have not responded…
It is not the number of people dying from being vaxxed that is the big issue, yet, but the number with adverse reactions. FE posted this video yesterday. It notes almost a million people with side effects in the UK (if I remember correctly). Source: UK equivalent of VAERS.
https://www.ukcolumn.org/video/a-good-man-down-the-fatal-reality-of-vaccine-adverse-reactions
Looks like that reporting system may have similar failings. Anyone can report an adverse reaction.
I am wondering what the long term outlook is for people who have had the injections…
Do we have any long term studies on side effects? Anything at all????
>>Anyone can report an adverse reaction.
One of the points discussed in the video is that the relevant agency is supposed to check that the reports are bona fide, contacting those who logged the report, doctors, hospitals etc. If the data is not very reliable, then it is the govt agency’s fault.
Also noted in the video – that the relevant doctors did not report the death, it was his daughters who did, and they only found out about the reporting system after much investigation. The impression given is that in the UK at least, the govt does not want doctors to report adverse affects, and therefore often they don’t.
It’s about the centralization of power. CDC says vaxs are approved by emergency. Therefore, no violation of informed consent.
CDC’s emergency says ‘there’s no treatment’. That is false, therefore the CDC should retract the emergency authorization.
I will now hold my breath lol.
BTW treatment links
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5dcc289e98868b35c9353740/t/600b3cd613fbca7e2c78d65b/1611349208358/CovidPatientTreatmentGuide-01-16-2021.pdf
https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/FLCCC-Alliance-I-MASKplus-Protocol-ENGLISH.pdf
https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/FLCCC-Alliance-MATHplus-Protocol-ENGLISH.pdf
I agree that terming it “emergency”, because there is no treatment, is wrong.
Another request…
In addition to the long term studies…. did that clown explain why it is necessary for someone who has already recovered from Covid to get Injected?
are you immune from measles after having it
Yes. Persons who have had measles in the past have lifelong immunity. Since measles can be confused with other infections that cause fever and a rash, a person needs a special blood test to be sure they are immune. What is the treatment for measles?
https://www.bphc.org/whatwedo/infectious-diseases/Infectious-Diseases-A-to-Z/Pages/Measles.aspx
Hmmm… so the Clown would suggest that I make an appointment to get an MMR vaccine?
https://youtu.be/8L6KGuTr9TI
… they’re already here…..
One day, the death caused by a virus will be considered a redemption from this emptying world by those people who will not be able to withstand the growing loneliness.
not to worry
the Chinese have just upped the family limit to 3 kids
You mean that instead of 2 zombies you can have 3 zombies.
MG this is disturbing. Maybe all we need is to turn off the TV and internet and talk with each other.
That is exactly the problem: the parents watch some stupidities, the children watch some stupidities because the parents do not have time and that is why you have zombies everywhere…
The zombies are the product of zombification, i.e. the implosion of the reality because of the energy implosion. More children, less energy per capita and more zombies.
A need to escape.
Some want to escape to the countriside.
Others want to escape to the city.
And some want to escape to space, to another planet.
There is a general need to escape.
But there is no place to escape… Because the human environment is imploding.
But the meek shall inherit the earth… Yes, that is true. But the meek will not be the humans.
I seriously doubt that humans are going anywhere, they have long survived without industrial civilisation before, and in all sorts of environments. And I seriously doubt that ‘meek’ will inherited anything, except perhaps a subjugated status – the norm in all ages.
The human population will be ‘reduced’, as centers of force form in the usual manner – by asserting themselves. That is how it works in the real world. The ‘meek’ will naturally stand no chance, and they will be ‘lucky’ if they get enslaved.
https://www.voanews.com/africa/least-55-killed-eastern-congo-massacres-un-says
At least 55 people were killed overnight in two attacks on villages in eastern Congo, the United Nations said on Monday, in potentially the worst night of violence the area has seen in at least four years.
The army and a local civil rights group blamed the Allied Democratic Forces (ADF), an Islamist armed group, for raiding the village of Tchabi and a camp for displaced people near Boga, another village. Both are close to the border of Uganda.
The Fukushima nuclear catastrophe could have been far worse, it turns out, and experts say neither the nuclear industry nor its regulators are doing enough to prevent a calamitous nuclear fuel fire in America https://www.publicintegrity.org/2016/05/20/19712/scientists-say-nuclear-fuel-pools-around-country-pose-safety-and-health-risks
Japan’s chief cabinet secretary called it “the devil’s scenario.” Two weeks after the 11 March 2011 earthquake and tsunami devastated the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant, causing three nuclear reactors to melt down and release radioactive plumes, officials were bracing for even worse. They feared that spent fuel stored in the reactor halls would catch fire and send radioactive smoke across a much wider swath of eastern Japan, including Tokyo.
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/05/burning-reactor-fuel-could-have-worsened-fukushima-disaster
Assuming a 50-100% Cs137 release during a spent fuel fire, [8] the consequence of the Cs-137 exceed those of the Chernobyl accident 8-17 times (2MCi release from Chernobyl). Based on the wedge model, the contaminated land areas can be estimated. [9] For example, for a scenario of a 50% Cs-137 release from a 400 t SNF pool, about 95,000 km² (as far as 1,350 km) would be contaminated above 15 Ci/km² (as compared to 10,000 km² contaminated area above 15 Ci/km² at Chernobyl).
A typical 1 GWe PWR core contains about 80 t fuels. Each year about one third of the core fuel is discharged into the pool. A pool with 15 year storage capacity will hold about 400 t spent fuel. To estimate the Cs-137 inventory in the pool, for example, we assume the Cs137 inventory at shutdown is about 0.1 MCi/tU with a burn-up of 50,000 MWt-day/tU, thus the pool with 400 t of ten year old SNF would hold about 33 MCi Cs-137. [7]
http://belfercenter.hks.harvard.edu/publication/364/radiological_terrorism.html
Containing radiation equivalent to 14,000 times the amount released in the atomic bomb attack on Hiroshima 68 years ago, more than 1,300 used fuel rod assemblies packed tightly together need to be removed from a building that is vulnerable to collapse, should another large earthquake hit the area. http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/14/us-japan-fukushima-insight-idUSBRE97D00M20130814
The problem is if the spent fuel gets too close, they will produce a fission reaction and explode with a force much larger than any fission bomb given the total amount of fuel on the site. All the fuel in all the reactors and all the storage pools at this site (1760 tons of Uranium per slide #4) would be consumed in such a mega-explosion. In comparison, Fat Man and Little Boy weapons dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki contained less than a hundred pounds each of fissile material – See more at: http://www.dcbureau.org/20110314781/natural-resources-news-service/fission-criticality-in-cooling-ponds-threaten-explosion-at-fukushima.html
Once the fuel is uncovered, it could become hot enough to cause the metal cladding encasing the uranium fuel to rupture and catch fire, which in turn could further heat up the fuel until it suffers damage. Such an event could release large amounts of radioactive substances, such as cesium-137, into the environment. This would start in more recently discharged spent fuel, which is hotter than fuel that has been in the pool for a longer time. A typical spent fuel pool in the United States holds several hundred tons of fuel, so if a fire were to propagate from the hotter to the colder fuel a radioactive release could be very large.
http://www.ucsusa.org/nuclear_power/making-nuclear-power-safer/handling-nuclear-waste/safer-storage-of-spent-fuel.html#.VUp3n5Om2J8
According to Dr. Kevin Crowley of the Nuclear and Radiation Studies Board, “successful terrorist attacks on spent fuel pools, though difficult, are possible. If an attack leads to a propagating zirconium cladding fire, it could result in the release of large amounts of radioactive material.”[12] The Nuclear Regulatory Commission after the September 11, 2001 attacks required American nuclear plants “to protect with high assurance” against specific threats involving certain numbers and capabilities of assailants. Plants were also required to “enhance the number of security officers” and to improve “access controls to the facilities”.
The committee judges that successful terrorist attacks on spent fuel pools, though difficult, are possible. If an attack leads to a propagating zirconium cladding fire, it could result in the release of large amounts of radioactive material. The committee concluded that attacks by knowledgeable terrorists with access to appropriate technical means are possible. The committee identified several terrorist attack scenarios that it believed could partially or completely drain a spent fuel pool and lead to zirconium cladding fires. Details are provided in the committee’s classified report. I cannot discuss the details here.
http://www.cfr.org/weapons-of-mass-destruction/nuclear-spent-fuel-pools-secure/p8967
If any of the spent fuel rods in the pools do indeed catch fire, nuclear experts say, the high heat would loft the radiation in clouds that would spread the radioactivity.
“It’s worse than a meltdown,” said David A. Lochbaum, a nuclear engineer at the Union of Concerned Scientists who worked as an instructor on the kinds of General Electric reactors used in Japan. “The reactor is inside thick walls, and the spent fuel of Reactors 1 and 3 is out in the open.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/16/world/asia/16fuel.html
If you don’t cool the spent fuel, the temperature will rise and there may be a swift chain reaction that leads to spontaneous combustion–an explosion and fire of the spent fuel assemblies. Such a scenario would emit radioactive particles into the atmosphere.
Pick your poison. Fresh fuel is hotter and more radioactive, but is only one fuel assembly. A pool of spent fuel will have dozens of assemblies. One report from Sankei News said that there are over 700 fuel assemblies stored in one pool at Fukushima. If they all caught fire, radioactive particles—including those lasting for as long as a decade—would be released into the air and eventually contaminate the land or, worse, be inhaled by people. “To me, the spent fuel is scarier. All those spent fuel assemblies are still extremely radioactive,” Dalnoki-Veress says.
It has been known for more than two decades that, in case of a loss of water in the pool, convective air cooling would be relatively ineffective in such a “dense-packed” pool. Spent fuel recently discharged from a reactor could heat up relatively rapidly to temperatures at which the zircaloy fuel cladding could catch fire and the fuel’s volatile fission product, including 30-year half-life Cs, would be released. The fire could well spread to older spent fuel. The long-term land-contamination consequences of such an event could be significantly worse than those from Chernobyl.
http://science.time.com/2011/03/15/a-new-threat-in-japan-radioactive-spent-fuel/
Today there are 103 active nuclear power reactors in the U.S. They generate 2,000 metric tons of spent nuclear waste per year and to date have accumulated 71,862 tons of spent fuel, according to industry data.[vi] Of that total, 54,696 tons are stored in cooling pools and only 17,166 tons in the relatively safer dry cask storage.
http://www.psr.org/environment-and-health/environmental-health-policy-institute/responses/the-growing-problem-of-spent-nuclear-fuel.html
This is a global map (2005) of the nuclear power plants. Presumably the spent fuel is not too far away from them. They are mainly in the northern hemisphere, with heavy concentrations around the Atlantic (USA, Europe), but also Pacific (USA, China, Japan), and, well you can see where the others are.
https://i.stack.imgur.com/7lws6.png
Today’s winners will escape to the space. Not sure about the rest.
What comet is it this time? Don’t forget to drink the koolaid though or the aliens won’t pick you up.
But the “winners” that you speak of tend to be psychopathic tyrannical types. I think the cold void of space will get to be quite boring for them without any “little people” to push around to give a sense of importance and meaning to their petty, pointless, redundant existences. Anyway the notion of the capitalists “escaping” to space is simply not going to happen anyway.
So …The Meerkats will inherit the Earth
Sometimes I wish to be a small animal or plant. I did not think which one is better, or what species specifically.
As the humans are species with the highest energy consumption, it is clear that the species with the lowest energy needs will survive.
Yesterday, I visited this ruin of the castle with one of my friends:
https://www.hrady-zamky.sk/lednica/
He spotted a small bird having a nest in one of the holes in the wall of this entrance building:
https://www.hrady-zamky.sk/obrazky/lednica/lednica7.jpg
That is how the human pride ends: other species take possession of the remains of the human environment.
https://nz.images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=AwrwS2CO4bVgUSsAH831Zgx.;_ylu=c2VjA3NyBHNsawNpbWcEb2lkA2MwZjRkNmVlYmViYjNjMzk3NDlkMDk3YzE0NDMxNjhkBGdwb3MDNwRpdANiaW5n?back=https%3A%2F%2Fnz.images.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3DMeerkats%26fr%3Dipad%26fr2%3Dpiv-web%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D7&w=4000&h=2667&imgurl=www.media.uzh.ch%2Fdam%2Fjcr%3A2c741ba7-d6e2-40de-8bf3-313d913fcc81%2Fde7-0EWI.jpeg&rurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.media.uzh.ch%2Fen%2FPress-Releases%2F2019%2FMeerkats.html&size=1054.6KB&p=Meerkats&oid=c0f4d6eebebb3c39749d097c1443168d&fr2=piv-web&fr=ipad&tt=UZH+-+Fate+of+Meerkats+Tied+to+Seasonal+Climate+Effects&b=0&ni=21&no=7&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=RQrFuZOfmBbQ&sigb=lLVnUyQGRZgv&sigi=_XPw_LMTkHuz&sigt=yeifMBF51DxN&.crumb=qAjFCbmTNcj&fr=ipad&fr2=piv-web
This seems to be link to photos of Meerkats from articles of various kinds. One I see now has a caption, “Meerkats kill there children in order to survive a new . . .” The rest is not shown. One is titled “18 magical facts about Meerkats.”
“German scientists have found that adenovirus SENICCAV like Astra-Zeneca cause blood clots, because they make spike mRNA *inside* of the cell nucleus.
Such nuclear mRNA becomes “spliced” to make truncated proteins, which undesirably clot your blood.
J and J planning to redesign.” Dr. Horace Drew
This is something under graduated should know according to the doctor.
It’s forbidden to criticize the VACCINES (SENICCAV) on Twitter.
Something has clearly been going wrong.
Rob, your MORT discussions don’t seem to generate much interest. And you know that the human overpopulation topic is waaaaay too edgy for the sedate, relatively conformist crowd of doomers.
May I make a suggestion? I looked at your sidebar of blogger recommendations and noticed that almost all of them–or all?– are part of the doomer raisin ranch; i.e., a bunch of old people. Also, the majority have had children, which puts a damper on the whole overpopulation thing.
Perhaps introducing some younger blood to the conversation might be more motivating: child-free-by-choice Portuguese Ph.D. candidate João L.R. Abegão on Twitter, for a start.
Rob Mielcarski, my response is to your comments elsewhere. Somehow it ended up here.
Rob M.’s quote: I’m also the guy who is fascinated by the fact that the 1% that are aware of overshoot, like the people here at OFW, never discuss the one thing that would improve the future and reduce suffering: democratically supported rapid population reduction policies.
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Rob, suffering is simply not considered a valid reason to forgo their ego gratification for most humans, doomers included. Possibly four or five of us do here, so congratulations on your depth of empathy, fellow traveler.
Blaise, I’m stealing “raisin ranch,” ha ha!
Nate, the issue may be demographics. By scaling theory, humans should live forty years, this was the age up until the 17th or 18th century. The young cannot support the old without fossil fuels and the old can not use fossil fuels as effectively as they young, we are too slow.
Not having children makes the problem worse, the mean/average age increases, it is going the wrong way.
Dennis L.
Dennis, so many mistakes in a few lines!
To start with people always lived about the same – 70 to 80.
The average was low because there used to be a lot of childhood deaths and some deaths giving birth.
Please rethink your argument
I’ve read the first 18th-century international mortality stats: setting aside the infant mortality which afflicted all classes, the big divide in terms of longevity was in all countries between town and country.
People died like flies in the towns, due to density infections and, above all, contaminated water. Food was more likely to be adulterated, too. Also smoke inhalation, in Northern cities -Southern cities tended not to have fireplaces, or use coal.
There was a much better chance of making it to over 60 yrs in prosperous rural areas.
The rich at that time tended to kill themselves early from over-eating, and to suffer depression and illness due to leading completely idle lives of leisure.
All these fact were known to intelligent doctors of the 18th-century, although it took them another century to realise and accept that their lack of hygiene was killing young mothers!
When I was younger and more naive I thought MORT would take off, especially among the aware environmental/climate change activists who you’d think would be searching for a scientific reason that all of their initiatives have spectacularly failed. It didn’t happen, almost no one is interested in MORT.
I now understand that denial of denial is the strongest form of denial.
My experience with denial is that it is equally strong in young and old. I suppose It has to be since denial is genetic. But I’d still love to add some young blood. Let me know if you find any youngsters that understand reality and write.
From my point of view, it seems to me that our problem is diminishing returns with respect to resource extraction. This makes the cost of production of the resources too high for users. This high cost of production is a problem, regardless of the size of the population. Producers of the resources cannot extract the resources, because the selling price will not stay high enough for their needs. The loss of energy and other resources is what is leading to near-term collapse, regardless of the size of population.
I think that the best argument that I have heard for slowing the growth rate of population was back in 1972. Then, we were still quite away from reaching resource extraction limits. Slowing the population growth would, in theory, have allowed collapse to be put off for a number of years. It would still take place, but some years later.
I am not convinced that slowing population growth, at this late date, makes any difference. Besides the issue of already being at resource limits, there is the issue that in the rich part of the world, the number of children born is already far below the replacement rate.
As nearly as I can see, the places that still have high fertility rates are countries in Africa and some Muslim countries. Also, Israel, which is Jewish. It is almost impossible for some outsider to come in and direct the people in these countries to do something different from what their customs tell them to do.
Just throwing this out there: Population is driven via availability of resources (food, energy water) vs the hard wired instinct of humans and life forms to fight over these. Eons ago, availability food and resources correlated with how much territory you controlled. This correlation broke down with the discovery of fossil fuels, and machinery. But now, we will be back tracking.
The term graphically is called hysteresis?
Slowing growth is a recession … people riot if a recession lingers for any significant period.
Reducing population – as in the Great Re-set/Agenda 2030 (although they don’t dare admit it as their plan) – can’t change the fact that ALL resource extraction and processing is so very much more difficult and expensive, even if the deposits and reserves exist.
The wrong solution – in fact, there is no solution and all we can do now is await Collapse.
I don’t know why you worry about depopulation Rob. It will happen regardless as collapse picks up speed. It is not really population that is the problem, it is our lack of concern for our environmental life support systems. Unless we change our attitude as a species towards our place in that world we will kill it no matter how many of us there are.
Rob, correct me if I’m wrong, but weren’t you in your 50s when you began blogging about MORT? Just curious . . .
As I mentioned earlier, João L.R. Abegão is a young man who does superbly well in his communications, especially since English is not his first language.
João L.R. Abegão, 30.
My academic background is in Environmental Health with a Master’s on Ecology and Environment. Currently a PhD candidate at the doctoral program of Climate Change and Policies for Sustainable Development of the University of Lisbon. I’m developing my thesis on the topic of Civilization Collapse.
My interest in Human Overpopulation arose from reading literature from authors that were much more prescient and timely than me, and their many contributions carved and forged my avidity to put in writing their work and my thoughts. I continue to write and speak on the topics of overpopulation, so I welcome anyone to take a tour through the website and get acquainted with the materials available.
https://www.overpopulationatlas.com/
“Let me know if you find any youngsters that understand reality and write”
what does “youngsters” mean? Under 20, 30, 40?
I have the feeling that we are all above 40 here on OFW, right?
“My experience with denial is that it is equally strong in young and old”
I don’t agree. When you believe your life is at its beginning, how could you be a doomer? The denial is stronger when you are young because your will to live is stronger.
After 40 years old, we start feeling that we have less time to live than the time we have been living. Our perception gradually changes, this is obvious. And then we become able to recognize the world for what it is. This is the very old duality between the will and the idea.
I will go further: If we are all so much pessimistic, why not disappearing right now and let the “youngsters” live a better life? That would make sense. Go to the end of your theory, this is the only logical outcome.
Pretending to live until the end and reducing the chances of humanity to survive, isn’t it the ultimate denial? Subtle, but nonetheless, real.
Thierry, oh, how original . . . the ol’ “why don’t ya kill yourself” routine for those who accept and act upon human overpopulation, har har!
Xabier said this concerning reducing population: The wrong solution – in fact, there is no solution and all we can do now is await Collapse.
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The population folks I know of in person and on the Internet are perfectly aware that the climate-change/ecological-destruction juggernaut cannot be stopped. That ISN’T the point. Avoiding needless suffering one sentient being at a time is the issue now.
I often wonder what goes through the minds of people, especially now, who decide to breed, multiple times, in some cases, when it’s been clear for many decades that we are destroying the living planet. The adamant narcissism or deliberate, cultivated ignorance on the part of those types in the First World is tragic, yet so pathetically typical for the human herd.
it’s difficult to convince Mr DNA to allow you not to breed….
People will procreate. It is as hard wired in Life as eating. Maybe someone should start a food-free-by-choice campaign. Then we can really solve the population problem…
People are hard wired to engage in the act that leads to procreation but not to procreation itself, otherwise we wouldn’t have seen the rapid drop in birth rates in the First World over the past century. The comparison to “food-free” is not apt because not eating food leads to a slow, painful death. By contrast, not procreating not only does not lead to death but may actually reduce suffering that would have been experienced had procreation occurred.
Exactly, Seamus. As I’ve said before, the fewer babies born now, the less suffering endured later. I was watching a conversation on another doomer site in which a couple of parents were trying to shut the overpopulation conversation down because “it’s too late to do anything about it.” The concept of actually preventing future suffering for the unborn was completely beyond them, which is ironic since those who reproduce are supposed to be the sensitive entities while the child-free are considered selfish.
Immense suffering, both physical and mental, is surely inseparable from life.
There is no reducing or evading it, in sum total: that is a delusion.
Save someone from all diseases, guarantee them food and shelter, even extend their life span to 150 yrs + as the Bio-tech loonies hope, and they will likely end up suicidal from depression.
If you understand that population is a dependent variable, there is nothing to talk about.
I used to stress out about this but now I accept that humans have no more free will than an avalanche.
CCP wants more kids now. I seriously doubt that they can do anything about the demographic collapse. A reliance on the traditional family to maintain the demographic cycle simply does not ‘work’ in more developed economic conditions – the West just gets more workers from abroad.
People ‘need’ more money to have more kids, but in fact they have fewer kids as they get more money. Experience shows that government attempts to get folk to have more kids simply does not work. CCP seems to be far too conservative to use the state and science to reproduce the population – so it is in for a shock.
The fertility rate was 1.7 in 2919, and 1.3 in 2020.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/31/china-announces-three-child-limit-in-major-policy-shift
“I myself am a product of the one-child policy. I already have to take care of my parents. Where would I find the energy to raise more than two kids?” one user posted on Weibo. “I am willing to have three children if you give me 5 million yuan (£554,350),” wrote another commenter.
He Yafu, an independent demographer in Guangzhou, said that given the limited impact of the two-child policy, the announcement will hardly help reverse the current trend. “The relaxation may not achieve as much as the authorities would have anticipated. It’s too costly to raise a child these days, and housing is not cheap in China,” he said.
But Prof Stuart Gietel-Basten, who directs the centre for ageing science at the Hong Kong university of science and technology, said the announcement was not unimportant.
“It removes a clear inconsistency in the narrative surrounding the concerns over low fertility with restrictions on births at the same time,” he said. “It will also be an important step in further stamping out illegal actions on women’s bodies [eg sterilisation and abortion] sanctioned by some local officials.”
It is not only China that is facing such a demographic challenge. Across east Asia, authorities have, for years, been scrambling to persuade couples to have more babies. South Korea and Japan have both used stipends to increase incentives.
Before the announcement, authorities had been experimenting with the three-child policy in the north-eastern Chinese province of Heilongjiang. Yet, some Chinese experts said the result was less effective than previously thought. This has also led some to call for a complete abandonment of the family planning policy.
One thing people don’t think about is that there are so many men that are never fathers that an economy needs to allow three-children families to get to anything close to 2.0 or 2.2 births per mother.
A man needs to be reasonably successful to get or stay married. Handicapped men, chronic drunks, drug users, and men who frequently get fired from their jobs tend to be divorced by women, or the never have an opportunity to marry. When women do marry, they choose from the “adequate fathers” category as much as possible.
There are also infertile couples and children who die before they can have children.
Yes, and developed countries have an entirely liberal policy of ‘have as many or as few kids as you like’ and they do not get anywhere near 2.2. CCP could say that everyone is ‘allowed’ to have 12 kids, it would not follow that people have 2.2.
Gail, You often talk about running at “full capacity” as a necessity I am curious as to what that is and where are we at now? I read a comment some ways back that said we are at 95% energy production now. .I don’t know if that is correct or where that comes from but looking at your graphs I am skeptical of that statement.
With less people could we function at lower energy production? Is it that we each have a barrel of oil over our head? And we need to keep producing? I noticed on Friday that Yellen said that the U.S needs to spend way more and I have heard this argument before…..the U.S needs to spend more so the FED can purchase the debt and get more dollars into the world economy….It is so hard for me to wrap my head around partly because I have worked hard all my life and the idea of a “free Lunch” kinda makes me sick….It goes against my ethos but maybe that is my myopic problem? Is there a free lunch?
The 95% with respect to energy has to do with comparing current (or 2020) energy consumption to recent energy consumption. It is not really a “percentage of capacity” amount. It is more of a “how big a step down” amount.
Regarding, “With less people could we function at lower energy production?”
Unfortunate, I am afraid, “No.” The economy has only two modes: growth and collapse. Collapse is a whole lot faster than growth. This leads to Ugo Bardi’s Seneca Curve. The original ancient quote is something like, “The road to increase is slow, but the road to ruin is fast.
With fewer people, the system starts having too much overhead, because the prior system was build to accommodate more people. There are too few jobs for people, because there is little need to build new roads, stores, or businesses. There aren’t enough buyers for homes. Each business has too few customers.
Gail, second to last sentence, “aren’t enough buyers for homes. Here homes are no longer on the market for even two days, the signs now say “Coming soon” and before they are for sale the signs say “Sold.”
Fed supporting low interest mortgages makes it a no brainer, appreciate at even 4%, interest at 3%, wait a few years and tax free gain. In addition we have to have a roof.
History is not proof, but Fl houses are now more expensive than the height of the 2007-2008 bubble, when they crashed it was a buying opportunity, if you owned then, pay the mortgage and wait it out.
Dennis L.
I have heard that it is pension funds and hedge funds are entering the market as well. Also there is a lot of FOMO in the market. Also there is a lot of would be home sellers not on the market because they don’t want to sell in this market if they wait and the house is $100000 more in just six months! Greed….
Again there is no healthy Market right now and if you read up above there may never be a healthy market again….at some point this bubble has to pop. We all just have to pretend that we don’t see it so we won’t drive our family and friends crazy. Hopefully the crash comes sooner than later that might make BAU last a little longer but if it doesn’t and this keeps growing this way. The fed has been doing a lot of illegal things in reverse repo, soma…etc….
The old Stoic. The basic Stoic message seems to be ‘man up, and get over it, and take responsibility for your future – or kill yourself, it is really up to you, but either way, stop whining.’ There is a certain dignity to the Stoic message, but they were perhaps a mature, hardier type and not really of this present age.
> …. Chance chooses some new weapon by which to bring her strength to bear against us, thinking we have forgotten her. 6. Whatever structure has been reared by a long sequence of years, at the cost of great toil and through the great kindness of the gods, is scattered and dispersed by a single day. Nay, he who has said “a day” has granted too long a postponement to swift-coming misfortune; an hour, an instant of time, suffices for the overthrow of empires! It would be some consolation for the feebleness of our selves and our works, if all things should perish as slowly as they come into being; but as it is, increases are of sluggish growth, but the way to ruin is rapid. 7. Nothing, whether public or private, is stable; the destinies of men, no less than those of cities, are in a whirl. Amid the greatest calm terror arises, and though no external agencies stir up commotion, yet evils burst forth from sources whence they were least expected. Thrones which have stood the shock of civil and foreign wars crash to the ground though no one sets them tottering. How few the states which have carried their good fortune through to the end!
…. Therefore let the mind be disciplined to understand and to endure its own lot, and let it have the knowledge that there is nothing which fortune does not dare – that she has the same jurisdiction over empires as over emperors, the same power over cities as over the citizens who dwell therein. We must not cry out at any of these calamities. Into such a world have we entered, and under such laws do we live. If you like it, obey; if not, depart whithersoever you wish. Cry out in anger if any unfair measures are taken with reference to you individually; but if this inevitable law is binding upon the highest and the lowest alike, be reconciled to fate, by which all things are dissolved.
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Moral_letters_to_Lucilius/Letter_91
This may be why the Great Re-set plan seems to aim to shrink the ‘legacy’ infrastructure, businesses and sectors, in a general reduction and consolidation to match the reduced population: most of what has been made will simply be abandoned.
Gail, regarding marriage.
The odds are stacked against the man, even in a 50-50 divorce, liquidation is the issue, generally the woman wants to cash out. The system is broken and raising children is for many a thankless job, much more so for men than women; the state will pay women approx $60/year with increases for each child, fathers can be multiple, it all pays the same.
Jobs for men appear to have gone to China so as to use the cheap coal and support Walmart as it were.
No solutions here, no criticism, sort of a Friday approach, “Just the facts, mam.”
Dennis L.
RESET MY WAY
– a strange blend of simple and complicated (a great many tiny pieces with far more coherent arrangement between them.
– more cars off the road.
– more energy saved.
THE BIG DIFFERENCE
– Many big stores will close to the public.
– A critical number of workers will live over the store (I have Super Walmarts in mind.)
– Those workers will manage a much bigger stock of inventory, and organize it for regular delivery to online shoppers.
– A larger cadre of workers will have inventory delivered to them to fine-tune-organize at home before delivery.
– A tighter relationship to supply lines.
RATIONING
– Having a better way to predict the needs of customers could lead to measured, planned, slow draw-downs AND EXTENSIONS of supplies.
It seems that humans have not developed the ability at all to reproduce persons through IVF without the transference of the fertilised egg to a natural human womb.
So, the use of ‘the state and science’ to boost the birth rate is technologically out of the question, anyway.
If Chinese people hadn’t aborted so many unwanted girls, maybe they wouldn’t be having such a challenging population issue now??
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/world/too-many-men/
CCP is set to abolish ‘family planning’ completely, and to go all out to encourage births.
China does have socio-political differences to Western countries, and it will be interesting to see to what extent CCP can use the state to encourage more births.
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202105/1225003.shtml
> But it will not reverse China’s overall trend of population decline, and stronger measures such as removing the family planning policy to bring about a birth encouragement policy is likely to follow, demographers said.
He Yafu, an independent demographer, told the Global Times on Monday he predicted that despite the three-child policy, China’s population is likely to start to decline as early as 2022, and that is when China is likely to consider formal removal of the family planning policy.
Yes, that is the thing about the materialist Marxist worldview – it is not ‘morally’ dogmatic. ‘Ideology’ is understood to reflect the needs and conditions of the material base, so ‘ideology’ is given to be transient. There is no ‘absolute’ morality – and there is no ‘contradiction’ in radically changing the message, as conditions change.
The West is dogmatically bound to ‘indivisible rights’, and it has much less scope to formulate policies that are liable to work. Eg. freely and easily available contraception and abortion are seen as ‘rights’, and they cannot be withdrawn, even in the face of demographic collapse. It will be interesting to see to what extend CCP utilises its ideological flexibility; it will be a measure of its will to survive.
This is laden with irony.
Many persons blame ‘Marxism’ for the UK’s open borders – which is totally wrong, labour expansion is driven by the CBI and by organised British capital generally, and Trot fronts get zero say in anything; and the Marxist countries like China avoid that policy, by abandoning ‘family planning’ for effective ‘family encouragement’ policies.
And traditional RC often hold up ‘Marxism’ as the greatest evil, and some blame it for ‘family planning’ in the West – actually that is due to liberalism; and China ends up with ‘family encouragement’ policies, while old RC countries like Italy, Spain, Portugal, Hungary end up with ‘family planning’ and busted fertility.
“ . . . The mass immigration of the past decade wasn’t caused just by the absence of transitional controls on new EU member states. It was the result of a policy of encouraging immigration to generate economic growth – a policy NuLab copied from Bill Clinton’s America. In a speech about the policy, then Home Office minister Barbara Roche said:
‘The evidence shows that economically driven migration can bring substantial overall benefits both for growth and the economy. In the United States, as Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan has commented, the huge recent inflow of migrants – 11 million in the 1990s – has been key to sustaining America’s longest-ever economic boom.’”
http://www.lobster-magazine.co.uk/free/lobster68/lob68-view-from-the-bridge.pdf
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There are more than 8 million empty homes in rural Japan, and local governments are selling them for as little as $500 in a bid to lure in residents
Cheryl Teh
Mon, May 31, 2021, 6:34 AM·4 min read
There are more than 8 million empty homes in rural Japan, and local governments are selling them for as little as $500 in a bid to lure in residents
akiya tochigi
This empty property in Tochigi, a prefecture north of Tokyo, is one of eight million vacant houses that need occupants. Tochigi Akiya
The Japanese government is looking for people to occupy some eight million empty homes.
Local authorities are giving away free houses and renovation subsidies to incentivize people to move in.
Some provinces even have “akiya banks,” which are listings of vacant houses available for sale.
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There are millions of vacant homes in Japan, and some of them are being given away nearly for free.
To find occupants for its millions of akiya, or unoccupied homes, the Japanese government is enticing would-be homeowners with financial incentives ranging from free properties to sizeable renovation subsidies.
Japan’s Housing and Land Survey logged a record high of 8.49 million akiya in Japan in 2018 during its survey of housing trends in the country, conducted every five years. Many of these homes were left empty after relatives died or when people moved away, the survey found. The 2018 survey found a 3.2% increase in the number of akiya i
There are more than 8 million empty homes in rural Japan, and local governments are selling them for as little as $500 in a bid to lure in residents
Cheryl Teh
Mon, May 31, 2021, 6:34 AM·4 min read
There are more than 8 million empty homes in rural Japan, and local governments are selling them for as little as $500 in a bid to lure in residents
akiya tochigi
This empty property in Tochigi, a prefecture north of Tokyo, is one of eight million vacant houses that need occupants. Tochigi Akiya
The Japanese government is looking for people to occupy some eight million empty homes.
Local authorities are giving away free houses and renovation subsidies to incentivize people to move in.
Some provinces even have “akiya banks,” which are listings of vacant houses available for sale
There are millions of vacant homes in Japan, and some of them are being given away nearly for free.
To find occupants for its millions of akiya, or unoccupied homes, the Japanese government is enticing would-be homeowners with financial incentives ranging from free properties to sizeable renovation subsidies.
Japan’s Housing and Land Survey logged a record high of 8.49 million akiya in Japan in 2018 during its survey of housing trends in the country, conducted every five years. Many of these homes were left empty after relatives died or when people moved away, the survey found. The 2018 survey found a 3.2% increase in the number of akiya in comparison to 2013.
akiya japan
A property manager opens the window of a vacant traditional Japanese house in the town Kamakura outside Tokyo Thomas Peter/Reuters
The report also found 13.6% of Japan’s 62.42 million homes were unoccupied. This was particularly pronounced in the prefectures of Wakayama, Tokushima, Kagoshima, and Kochi, all of which recorded home vacancy rates over 18%.
This push to revitalize Japan’s rural areas is a key part of Japanese Prime Minister Yoshihide Suga’s socio-economic plans for the country. Suga made rural revitalization a cornerstone of his policy when he took office in September, pledging in a November speech to stimulate the rural economy by boosting tourism and encouraging agricultural reform.
Free houses, anyone?
akiya Nagano
An unoccupied property in Nagano, Japan Nagano Akiya Bank
Japan is making it easy for interested parties to find these vacant homes.
Cities like Tochigi and Nagano have “akiya banks.” These websites, which are developed by the city or municipal governments, list abandoned homes. Some of them are available for as little as 50,000 yen ($455).
The town of Okutama in western Tokyo even hands over aging and vacant buildings for free, per Nikkei. Some new residents have found creative ways to repurpose them, turning them into workshops and eateries.
“The program not only helps the old owners, who were struggling to utilize the properties and pay taxes, but also for the town by reducing the number of abandoned buildings that could collapse or otherwise pose risks in the future,” a spokesman for the Okutama government office told Nikkei.
Some provincial governments have found that offering cash is one of the best ways to draw in remote workers.
Nikkei reported that Mikasa in the northern prefecture of Hokkaido recorded an 11% decrease in its number of empty homes when the city rolled out subsidies for child care and home purchases. Similarly, the town of Daisen in Tottori Prefecture saw a 7.9% drop in the number of empty properties when the local government offered two million yen ($18,229) grants to those who were renovating certain houses listed in its database.
In September, Nikkei reported on a program through which remote workers who maintain employment in Tokyo while working from the countryside will be given a one million yen ($9,114) cash grant. Meanwhile, those who set up IT businesses in rural Japan can apply for a grant of three million yen ($27,343).
A trend seen around
Cinquefrondi is located in the Calabria region in southern Italy. It started selling off houses for one euro, in an attempt to repopulate the village. Andreas Solaro/AFP via Getty Images
The problem of empty houses in rural areas is not unique to Japan.
As Insider’s Taylor Borden and Libertina Brandt recently reported, cities and towns across the US are offering people thousands of dollars – and in some cases, free land – to relocate.
In Italy, the southern village of Cinquefrondi made the news when it started selling homes for one euro ($1.14) to increase the town’s population. And the town of Locana in northern Italy offered the same deal, but sweetened it by giving remote workers who have children a cash incentive of 9,000 euros ($10,971) to move there to fill its deserted homes.
One thing they all have in common…NO Jobs…but with UBI these might do well
Houses in places where people don’t want to live have little value. I understand that inheritance taxes on homes in Japan have been high. When elderly owners die, children choose not to accept the inherited homes because they would come out behind, considering the taxes, loss of income (moving there) and fix up expenses. Maybe more remote work will help fix the situation.
Is Japan or Italy willing to accept a non citizen for a house? As a retiree these are interesting.
Ed,
It is the cost of learning Japanese that is the problem – looking for some humor on this site.
Dennis L.
Ed, I’m sure they’d let you in, especially if I gave the authorities the nod, as long as you don’t have a police record or on one of those rapidly multiplying security lists and are capable of supporting yourself financially. But it’s an expensive country by Asian standards. My eighty-year-old American neighbor who lives on his savings loves to spend the coldest three months of the year in India, Vietnam or Indonesia as he hates shivering and what he spends on traveling is mostly covered by what he saves in heating oil.
Most of these rural houses that nobody needs are old structures made of wood, plaster and wattle and daub. They usually need extensive reforming to meet modern standards of comfort and convenience. Also, the climate being hot and humid in summer, if they are not lived in for several years, the interiors get mouldy, the timbers get damp and the termites move in. Also, centipedes, stink bugs, bats, weasels, mice… After ten or fifteen years, the roof beams will no longer support the roof and the house comes tumbling down.
As for snakes, houses with thatched roofs usually have a large resident Japanese rat snake, known as the aodaishō or “blue general”. These are harmless to humans and non-venomous and usually grow to one to two meters in length. But if one sets up in your roof, and you treat it as a protecting god of the household, it may grow a bit bigger over the years and even make trips to the kitchen to see if you’ve left it anything nice to eat.
Tim, good news no police record. I like to think as far as lists go I was long ago put on the free thinking physics list and ignored going forward.
The snake in the roof is a bit concerning. Maybe a new terracotta roof.
Snake in roof good thing.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Thu7hnkiMKz9/
My Japanese friend tells me the groundwater in these areas is polluted from Fukushima. She says locals sent samples to a US lab and they found plutonium.
Plutonium is not what a person wants in ground water. Probably watering crops with it wouldn’t be a good choice either.
Bioaccumulation risks. I’m uncertain if there are any acceptable risk levels to plutonium. It is chemically toxic and highly radioactive.
The Doomie Preppers on their Magical Farms that the starving hordes cannot see… will be eating plutonium flavoured veggies!
Then their skin will slough off…. fools
Mike Adams who runs the Health Ranger website was been calling for Reiner Fuellmich inspired Nurembourg trials.
A couple of days ago he got a call from someone claiming to be from a government. He says they threatened to hijack his website domain if he doesn’t delete a lot of his content. They also said that 70% of adults must be vaccinated, and if anyone gets in the way of that goal they will be destroyed.
The person also said that a false flag atrocity by an ‘anti-vaxxer’ was going to happen.
He sounded shaken up.
https://healthrangerreport.com/situation-update-may-28th-2021-vaccine-deep-state-issues-direct-threat-to-natural-news-and-the-health-ranger
I am wondering if the call to Mike Adams was made by some prankster who had nothing to do with the State Department. It could be “real,” but perhaps it is not.
He did consider that. But he says they knew things that they would not if it was just a casual prankster.
Also, there is speculation that Dr Mercola got a similar call.
He has been deleting content as fast as possible for the past couple of weeks.
I guess time will tell. If there’s an atrocity committed by an anti-vaxxer then we’ll know.
‘Died of a sudden Covid in the street’ may become our version of ‘Fell out of a window while helping police with their enquiries’……..
Mercola made some very good videos indeed, that’s unfortunate. ‘Dark Horse ‘ will probably get squashed, too after taking Ivermectin live and calling suppression of it’ a great crime’ …..,
Gather Around…The Greatest Show on Earth…
Associated Press
Nations begin 3 weeks of grueling climate talks online
It is important that we send a clear message to the world that we are very much engaged to resolving the Paris rulebook and to tackle this climate change conundrum, and that we have nothing to hide,” he said.
Negotiations will focus on resolving some of the outstanding issues arising from the 2015 Paris climate accord, including rules for international carbon markets, harmonizing countries’ timeframes for reducing greenhouse gas emissions and providing aid to developing nations. Progress on all of those issues is seen as key to making the U.N. climate summit in Glasgow in November a success. However, due to concerns about the format, no official decisions are expected at the virtual talks that run until June 17.
The Glasgow meeting will be a key test for international efforts to curb global warming before it reaches critical levels in the coming decades.
Signatories of the Paris accord agreed to limit the rise in average temperatures to well below 2 degrees Celsius (3.6 Fahrenheit), ideally no more than 1.5 C (2.7 F), by the end of the century compared with pre-industrial times. But with global warming already at about 1.2 C (2.2 F), scientists say drastic steps are needed to cut the amount of carbon dioxide and other planet-heating gases released into the atmosphere.
Gail is 100% correct…nothing much can be done….Fast Eddy is correct the CEP will take place
Suppose all this gives the people a small comfort that leaders are in charge of events and not the laws of Physics, Chemistry, Ect…
Betcha there is some progress afterwards and everyone will go home until the next world meeting
Business as Usual…🤑🤑🔌🙊😢
It seems like Australia is the only country with significant fossil fuel resources that is trying seriously to work on reducing CO2. All Australia ends up with is more and more electricity problems: higher prices, more outages, fewer businesses that want to stay in Australia. Perhaps, New Zealand as well. Neither of these countries has adequate oil resources, however, so perhaps this is why they are listening to the story. They actually believe some of the hype.
October 2020 China implemented a ban on clearing or discharging Australian coal with immediate effect, followed by a hard stop on cargoes received after 6 November. Australian exports to China have since plummeted, from 6-12 Mt per month to effectively zero.
But despite this setback, Australia’s exporters have staged a recovery. What’s behind the bounce back, and how have trade flows changed?
This article is an extract from Australian coal exports bounce back despite China ban. Fill in the form to read the insight in full and access the full set of charts.
Australian exports could exceed previous years
https://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/australian-coal-exports-bounce-back-from-chinas-ban/
Aussie coal is like Saudi Oil…both need exports to survive
I finally did find the form to respond to get the report on the Wood Mackenzie site. https://www.woodmac.com/news/opinion/australian-coal-exports-bounce-back-from-chinas-ban/
Unfortunately, a person needs what Wood Mackenzie considers a “business e-mail.”
There are signs the UK is in the early stages of a third wave of coronavirus infections, a scientist advising the government has said.
Prof Ravi Gupta, from the University of Cambridge, said although new cases were “relatively low” the Indian variant had caused “exponential growth”.
He said ending Covid restrictions in England on 21 June should be postponed.
Environment Secretary George Eustice said the government could not rule out a delay to the planned lockdown easing.
On Sunday, the UK reported more than 3,000 new Covid infections for a fifth successive day.
Prior to this, the UK had not surpassed that number since 12 April.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-57304515
The Indian variant is spreading exponentially in UK, but from a low base, and vaxes are slowing the spread, so it will take more time to get ‘explosive’ in the end.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/covid-third-wave-indian-variant-b1856870.html
On Sunday, the UK reported 3,240 new Covid infections, its fifth consecutive day recording more than 3,000 cases, a rate not seen since early April.
But while the recent rise is unquestionably worrying, does it actually amount to a third wave?
The question was put to microbiologist Professor Ravi Gupta – a member of the New and Emerging Respiratory Virus Threats Advisory Group (Nervtag), which advises the government – on BBC Radio 4’s Today programme on Bank Holiday Monday and he answered: “Yes, there has been exponential growth in the number of the new cases and at least three-quarters of them are the new variant.
“Of course the numbers of cases are relatively low at the moment – all waves start with low numbers of cases that grumble in the background and then become explosive, so the key here is that what we are seeing here is the signs of an early wave.”
He added: “It will probably take longer than earlier waves to emerge because of the fact that we do have quite high levels of vaccination in the population, so there may be a false sense of security for some time, and that’s our concern.”
It’s amazing how if you call it the Chinese virus or the Wuhan flu, you’re raciss, but if you call it the British, Indian, South African or Brazilian variant, no problemo.
The man Gupta is a disgrace to the University, but clearly knows which way the political wind is blowing….
I wonder if these characters are being offered research grants in exchange for support.
One step away from standing on a busy street corner and shouting The End is Nigh…
That’s what happens when you try to expose a govt lie
https://twitter.com/i/status/1393631417788141569
https://doctors4covidethics.medium.com/
To grasp just what is happening one only has to observe that intelligent, qualified people who present a reasoned case which contradicts the official narrative are censored, suspended and derided as nuts, while celebrity after celebrity is wheeled out telling people to get ‘their’ jab.
Of course, those who rely on the MSM won’t even know about all the censorship, and the high quality of those being marginalised, just like my relations who had no idea at all about the huge protests in London…..
Wolf Richter has joined the censors: he won’t accept posts about vaccine deaths, citing official stats, he’s probably worried about losing his site, etc – and in a way I can’t blame him.
Wolf is an absolute jackass.
His wife must be very flexible… he would be a nightmare to live with
He’s been drive off of Zero Hedge because people booted off his site show up on ZH to wreck him on the comments section hahaha
I think that there is also the issue that Richter’s expertise is outside the medical field. It is hard for someone outside the medical field to be taken seriously on COVID-19 questions, given the way the “system” works. I run into this issue as well.
“Alex” is funny today.
https://www.alexcartoon.com/index.cfm?cartoon_num=7906
yes, good one
This is the price you pay for CovIDIOCY. Funny as hell!!!
Former Greater Manchester police sergeant Peter John Meadows trusted the UK Government’s Covid-19 vaccination policy. The decision cost him his life. It has taken his two brave daughters, Louise and Lisa, to expose what took place from the time he was vaccinated until he died. Despite collecting vaccine adverse reaction data via their Yellow Card system, designed to keep the UK public safe, the UK Government’s Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) has taken no investigatory action to protect the UK public from future such fatal vaccine reactions. In an interview with Brian Gerrish of the UK Column, Louise and Lisa warn an innocent and ill-informed UK public of the reality of vaccine adverse reactions, and highlight the cover-up of over a thousand deaths and approximately three quarters of a million UK Yellow Card adverse reaction statistics.
https://www.ukcolumn.org/video/a-good-man-down-the-fatal-reality-of-vaccine-adverse-reactions
No one wants to advertise bad results!
Gail Is it accurate to say that you feel a higher probability of collapse in near time frame than you have ever felt before?
Yes, unfortunately.
Sometimes I worry about my confirmation bias….David in the motor sometimes really makes me think about it as well. I have been waiting for this rotten bridge to collapse since about 2005. I read OFW, ZH, Fox News, CNN, NYP,NYT. I also watch Rebel Capitalist, Making Sense with Emil and Jeff. but at the end of the day I think we are getting to an end of something. I am not sure what that is but…the financial system seems to be working overtime…That being said this is the only site that does not have something to gain by “grandstanding” all the others are trying to sell me something into the future.
How delightful!
Although I am hoping this holds together till September so I can get a final full ski season under my belt.
been wondering about the skiing please post pictures
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/china-one-step-closer-creating-24211832 China makes claims about its nuclear fusion program. What could possibly go wrong?
(Sigh) And they’re upwind of me.
Minor detail:
“If the energy is to become feasible as a reliable power source, it will need to be sustained for a longer period of time.”
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/why-china-could-vanquish-us-new-space-race ……………………………………………………………………………………………………………….. “Beijing leaders have already outlined their plans for the next decade: by 2024, to have an automated base built on the south pole of the moon. In 2028, Chinese (and possibly Russian) personnel will be permanently stationed at that lunar base.
China seeks to have taikonauts on the Martian surface by 2030.”
I’m not affirming that their plans will succeed, just quoting. Surely these plans will be huge costs and little benefits.
david,
“Surely?”
Surely we are running out of or have run out of non renewable resources upon which our civilization depends. So, what is the risk? Is is 100%?
Watched a RI presentation on Saturn, amazing the chemicals on the moons, one might wonder where hydrocarbons really come from, last I heard there were no dinosaurs on the moons of Saturn.
RI is an amazing channel on Youtube; some here comment negatively on Britain, it is amazing the science they did and originated, so many chose to focus on every negative and ignore the positive.
Dennis L.
Dennis, let’s not be too hasty. In 1895 John Jacob Astor wrote “Travels on Other Worlds” about his voyage to Saturn and the dinosaurs he and his companions saw there.
Global bubble will expand forever, because of space exploration
http://greyenlightenment.com/2021/05/29/the-era-of-antitrust-is-over-and-selective-enforcement-of-rules/
tl, dr, with the failed attempt to break Microsoft, nobody will try to break today’s tech giants, which will basically grow forever.
The Spaced Based Solar Power is a game changer of sorts. Free from environmental concerns, and actually being implemented now. It can also bring power to Mars, etc for relatively negligible forces, enabling terraforming Mars and other goodies.
The Brins, the Zuckerbergs and the Bezos are going to be the Capets, the Habsburgs and the Normans who ruled France, Austria and England for a very long time. Their power will be eternal, and soon government will be outsourced to them and other tech moguls, who will run cities like Dubai, luxurious, some fun but no political power whatsoever for those not related to the ruling families.
A pop decline will actually be helpful for this scenario since there is not much resources to be spend on maintaining a higher pop.
Peak Oil was a very close call, but today’s smartest brains have finally figured out how to advance, although the result will probably be very painful for about 99% of human population, excepting maybe Fast Eddy.
Sorry, it doesn’t work this way. Space based solar power is many, many years away. Difficulties in extracting coal and oil, without a world economy, are likely to make Space Based Solar power not really work.
Gail, you may be right but I prefer to hope, maybe blindly, that we can just squeak through. I thin t more likely that China and Russia can pull off the heroic efforts that will be needed. The US devoted to its ideals of free money and negativity will not inspire heroic efforts on the part of its workers.
Ed,
since you are open to being wrong, why don’t you read JM Greer’s old site “thearchdruidreport” (some copies available online).
It took me many years of reading to absorb the lessons of limits but maybe you can do it faster.
As for “hope” – that is a horrible mistake as the Greeks knew (if you read Pandora’s box). Hope was in the box with all the other evils.
Even if space based solar were ready today it probably wouldn’t solve our energy problems because, as Alice Friedemann argues, electricity is not capable of running transportation and manufacturing which require high energy density fossil fuels to work.
From Zerohedge:
China Warns Global Financial Bubble Could Burst
Maybe the idea is to blame someone else for a problem a lot of countries have contributed to.
RBI in India is warning that India faces a bubble.
https://www.livemint.com/news/india/rbi-flags-risk-of-bubble-in-indian-equity-markets-11622124684959.html
Gail, did my comment not make it through moderation? I had several references showing that a few of the trends you show aren’t due to shortages.
You commented under a different name (same photo, however) a few days ago. Your comment shows up at this link.
https://ourfiniteworld.com/2021/05/27/dont-expect-the-world-economy-to-resume-its-prior-growth-pattern-after-covid-19/comment-page-1/#comment-295987
I did, in fact, respond to your comment, if you go back to that comment and look. Other people liked my response.
What the heck!? So many systems betraying me. Thanks, will go read.
I have been reading OFW for a long time but this is my first post.
What do you think of this study released today “The future of oil supply in the European Union” by The Shift Project.
https://theshiftproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/The-Future-of-Oil-Supply_Shift-Project_May-2021_SUMMARY.pdf
thanks for posting that Virginio. I’ve saved it into my ref library. Really useful. It focusses my mental meanderings very neatly.
having written about the same problem back in 2018, albeit on a slightly different slant, it makes an interesting re read in relation to the Shift Projectn material
https://medium.com/future-vision/the-european-union-was-a-construct-of-infinite-prosperity-7a401c225171
seems a bit optimistic in the 10 year and 20 frame. I would doubt it to 15% down by 2030 and 40% down by 2040.
I think the EU should reduce oil imports 100% by 2030.
The Shift Project comes close to the standard “peak oil” view of looking at things. The assumption is made that oil reserves give you are pretty good idea of what is out there that can be extracted.
I don’t think the situation is as straightforward as this. It is the overall economy that has to continue operation that is important. To the extent that EROEI is important, it is the EROEI of the whole economy that is important. The economy was near crashing around the year 2000, before China was brought into the International Trade Organization with all of its coal. The coal was lower cost (higher EROEI) than the oil. Human wages were also lower. Adding Chinese coal “saved” the world economy for a while.
Now that we have depleted China’s coal, we are reaching limits again. I think that a lot of oil that looks like it is available will never be extracted. We need the whole world economy to make the system work. An economy cannot just slowly go downhill as the energy resources decline; the economy will tend to collapse. It is the collapsing economy, as much as anything else, that brings an end to production. Looking at oil reserves gives misleading indication, as I see the indication. So I think the Swift Projects number are perhaps an upper bound for what could be extracted, it we could keep the whole world economy together for the forecast period.
In other words, continued successful monetary jiggery pokery and fantasy finance are the prerequisites for the exploitation of any remaining reserves. Reserves alone offer no reassurance in themselves.
This is an interesting recent article about the revolutionary actions that shipping industry is facing about fossil fuels.
The requested change seems to be so urgent that shipping industry seems simply not ready for it.
The impression is like if someone is realizing that fossil fuels are even not enough to go on as usual neither for a while:
https://lloydslist.maritimeintelligence.informa.com/LL1136951/Shell-Shocked-Why-a-tumultuous-week-for-Big-Oil-is-a-turning-point-for-shipping
When will Elon announce the first electric super tanker?
FE, this would work! Use electric beamed from geosynchronous orbit to the ship.
Or, even easier use low orbit SPS that only works during daylight hours but hey ships can stop for the night. Low orbit means smaller satellite and smaller receiver antenna on ship. There will need to be a fleet of several SPS as they will orbit every 90 minutes or so. A fleet of eight should work fine.
The ship could have Elon batteries for night time propulsion.
JM Greer has a post about some future time in US where believers in progress sit around a fire with no electricity, eating some rat and talk about going to Mars or electric cars.
I think we are close to that future but don’t worry there are plenty of people that will join you.
BTW, I used to think the same way as you – of course I was in middle school and reading too much sci-fi. Then I started learning physics.
Without the shipping industry, we have a big problem! one thing the article brings up is a Dutch Court Decision, which would affect shippers if oil companies are affected.
They’ll be down to 0 long before 2030… and they know it.. they won’t even bother to appeal
@Ed
The system tried in New Zealand is the system described in Ayn Rand’s book.
She won the game. With today’s elites controling the world for ever, they will withdraw from the surface of the earth, leaving the rest of humanity face a huge Malthusian correction.
You just contradicted yourself there.. How can “muh elites” control the Earth after they withdraw from it? Will they construct a Death Star?
They can withdraw but they have plenty of proxies to continue to do the work while the world goes batshit, and when the populace revolts after the hardship, they return as if nothing had happened and destroy those who crossed them.
Example: England’s Charles II, France’s Louis XVIII (actually Marie Therese, Marie Antoinette’s daughter – while MA was clueless, MT genuinely hated the populace.) , Vietnam’s Nguyen Anh.
Your posts are deserving of a Hugo Award.
for ever?
10-25 years?
I doubt it. The growth of the world economy has increasingly been held up by debt growth, rather than energy consumption growth. We have run out of “room” to hide the world’s problems behind growing debt. There really are no energy sources that are providing enough “surplus energy” now. Subsidized renewables are particularly bad for not providing energy surpluses. They need energy surpluses from fossil fuels to make necessary repairs and to maintain infrastructure such as transmission lines. It is the world economy that is going to tend to break apart.
Withdraw from the surface of the earth?
At our moment of triumph?
US military is starting into SPS
https://www.newswars.com/us-military-plans-to-harvest-solar-energy-in-space-beam-it-to-earth/
with rousing video and music
https://youtu.be/sKKtrWTDusA
https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2021/04/space-based-solar-power-10-watt-demos-in-space-now-and-beaming-and-other-demos-now-to-2023.html
Pandora’s box is being opened. At the bottom we find hope.
They will test with proto types
generation of electricity with PV (super well known but let’s check again in space)
generation of RF beam to send to Earth (super well know by the military but let’s check again in space)
Thermal management important already used in military satellites but this will in the long run be bigger so let’s check
Structures this is new
Who controls energy controls the world.
big thanks! I have been awaiting this. That guy (name?) who posted about SPS could never give us this basic info: if it’s so great, why aren’t we trying it? This is good, let’s see how the experiments tests prototypes work. I’m not sure I even care if it succeeds or fails, just try it already and let’s see what the answer is.
a question for you: any clue idea hint info that the Chinese are also on this path? Again, if it’s so great, where is China?
https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/06/16/china-is-winning-the-solar-space-race/
https://spacejournal.ohio.edu/issue16/ji.html
Based on China’s SPS scenario, there are 5 steps to achieving the first commercial SPS system. In 2010, CAST will finish the concept design; in 2020, we will finish the industrial level testing of in-orbit construction and wireless transmissions. In 2025, we will complete the first 100kW SPS demonstration at LEO; and in 2035, the 100mW SPS will have electric generating capacity. Finally in 2050, the first commercial level SPS system will be in operation at GEO.
This comes from largely the same people who fake the moon landing and the ISS among other space related things, so grain of salt.
“This comes from largely the same people who fake the moon landing and the ISS among other space related things, so grain of salt.”.
This is not an acceptable kind of reasoning to me.
Look at the articles and see what they have to say.
The IEEE has a section that is involved with Space Solar. There are definitely reasonable people looking into it. They don’t expect anything substantial to happen in the next 20 years (except in very limited demonstrations). I also think that they generally assume that fossil fuel supply will be in better shape than it really is.
Intermittent sources of electricity are really very unacceptable, because incredibly huge amounts of battery materials would be required. Intermittent electricity would be terrible for the grid. So, from this point of view, if Space Solar Power could be made to work, it might have some advantages over what we have today. You can’t blame governments from various countries for wanting to give it a further look, even if it seems farfetched.
“You can’t blame governments from various countries for wanting to give it a further look, even if it seems farfetched.”
I agree to a certain extent but I think there is too much evidence that the “space-military-industrial complex” is too corrupt to give much credence to any hyped-up press release that emanates from it.
Why cant they just make a fake solar satellite network and beam fake power back to the MOREONS on Earth?
Not really any different than what they are doing with Solar and Wind… jus borrow the CGI tech they are using for the fake Mars helicopter shots and landings
space….hahahahaha
https://youtu.be/j4JOjcDFtBE
Behind so much theses days lies the (rather desperate) hope that if things can be kept functioning – somehow, anyhow, and at any cost – for another 20-30 years, some escape from the civilisational energy predicament might be developed.
From that point of view, such potentially viable avenues in space certainly seem worth exploring.
Futhermore, it would be logical to devote as much resources and effort as possible to these projects, and away from all the ‘legacy’ systems which are in any case doomed in the long-term, and in the short-term an inbuilt drag.
So, our economies will be placed on a kind of ‘ticking over’ basis, while elites position themselves to stay on top of the pile, and to benefit from the new technologies if they become viable.
Hence, the engineered ‘pandemic’ providing the pretext, and associated policies of economic suppression/redirection, and political repression.
Students in universities need some potential “solution” to study. Learning about how to dig in the ground with a stick for agricultural production is not a reasonable university course.
Learning about how to dig in the ground with a stick for agricultural production is not a reasonable university course.
hahahahaha…
I agree Gail, we should judge any proposal on its own merits.
In this case this is not new – these ideas have been floating around for 70 years.
They are vaporware. Where are the design plans, including material list and energy costs?
In reality, this is just another delusion to keep the believers in progress from losing faith.
After the 2008 crash, there was a big push with Musk (CIA owned) to send a car in space – symbolic isn’t it?
Lots of believers had something else to focus their mind on instead of the postponed collapse.
This SPS idea, or nuclear fusion or “green deal” might buy another couple of years. Billions will end up in the pockets of the rich and then people will forget about it for a couple of years.Rinse and repeat.
I am glad that this conversation is going on here – maybe some people can compare what you say with these Star Trek ideas and come to their own conclusions.
I think that the need is so desperate that people are willing to say, “Is this something we can do? If so, can we get the cost down to something affordable.” The cost goal I have heard for Space Solar Power is “cheaper than coal.”
I’ll eat a plate of dog food if we ever get space solar ‘off the ground’… I doubt the engineering is possible — and if it was it would be obscenely expensive
Better hurry up … time is now extremely tight
be careful Eddy, all this agreeing with me will cause severe emotional disturbance eventually
Start feeding your dogs fillet steak, FE, because the Age of Energy Miracles is almost here!
For God’s sake, you can *see* the ISS with the naked eye.
I agree Bei.
It is hard to try to decide what’s a conspiracy and what’s reality so I understand some people go the whole hog and declare everything the govt said is bunk.
On the other hand we have people like you that buy the official crap no questions asked – to the extent of getting untested gene therapy for the flu.
Like I said, I try to be understanding of both sides.
Seeing the ISS with the naked eye doesn’t mean what they show you on TV is the real ISS.
I remember when Thomas Pesquet first went in the ISS he posted a photo with snow on the Alpes, while there wasn’t snow actually. The photo was quickly suppressed. Can you believe it?
Am I to understand that there is a…fake ISS circling the earth?
Bei, here is what I think: the ISS is real but never you will know what happens up there. Top secret. Everything you see on a screen is a distraction or cover up.
So? It doesn’t follow that the goofy astronaut antics that are broadcast to the masses actually occur within that body or that it is manned at all.
Right! There is a surprising amount of interest in Space Solar Power from the military. China and Japan also seems to be interested in it. Georgia Institute in Technology in Atlanta does research projects related to this, and there are quite a few others interested.
Gail, despite what the techno-optimists here say, the space solar power is the future of 1950s.
What is it with the believers in progress? Despite the fact that all their touted technologies never go beyond the drawing board, they keep repeating the sales pitch over and over again.
Every couple of years they bring back an old dream and people treated as the latest and greatest.
How many times did they promised us nuclear power, tidal power, space power etc?
That’s how I know this is a religion.
In the mean times, the mix of energy generation (oil, coal, gas mostly) has been the same for how long? Basically since the second world war with some NG ramp up.
Elon has brought the cost to orbit down by a factor of 20. Big help for SPS. Zero pressure nuclear is much cheaper and lower resource use to build. The Chinese are using this for district heating. The western government are controlled by the CCP their job is to destroy civilization not build a future for our children.
Even Elon thinks Space Solar is stupid.
Well, that’s game over for peak oil now an unlimited energy from the sun is coming to earth
Maybe in 30, 40 or 50 years, but SPS needs oil and coal to make it work. If they are badly in decline, the replacement won’t work either.
Elon knows we are in a race to a new system before the old dies. We all do.
better run fast
and change the laws of physics at the same time
Elon is drilling his own methane well. Starbase will be his city of true believers.
https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-starbase-city-spacex-texas-launch-site-2021-3 ……………………………………………………………………….. wow, could this be your destination after leaving behind NY?
thanks for that—I hadn’t seen it.
I shall look forward to seeing his CGI imagery of it.
run fast and change the laws of physics. Must do both not one or the other.
It will be interesting to watch Musk set fire to his money pile (i.e. send rockets to Mars) expecting it to be a cash multiplier.
The entire Starcity enterprise, Space X. thing is set up to burn through cash, (methane drilling, rocket launching and so on)
there is nothing on Mars (or the Moon) to convert energy forms sufficiently (one form to another) to return a profit at any level.
That is the single critical factor he chooses to ignore.
He is not alone in his thinking.
Musk hasn’t been in touch to get my opinion. I’m certainly not going to tell him
Margaret and I would love to move to Starbase . Our only concern is a yard for the dogs to go out and poo. Will Starbase be a city or will it also have suburbs with yards?
I visited one supposed “Eco Village” years ago that had more space devoted to dog runs than to crops. It also had minimum standards for homes built there. Basically, the homes would need to look like a nice subdivision home.
I met a guy who started an eco-village… I said to him — so you have nearly 100,000 people living within an hours drive of you… and all of them are aware of your village… so what happens when the lights go off and they arrive at the gate looking to feed their families…
His response — “well we don’t have any guns here if that’s what you are asking… ”
Hahahahahahahahahaha…. I wanted to say … who needs guns — as long as you have many tambourines and guitars and everyone knows the lyrics to Koombaya…. Just thump away and sing and I am sure the Mongrel Mob and assorted other bad people will leave you in peace.
jeeesus krist…. stoooopidity is beyond epic in these DelusiSTANI villages…
Fortunately the Elders are the voice of reason … and will take care of these people so they do not have to spend their last days watching their children being raped and cooked on fires.
starbase can only function if the inhabitants have collective purpose
just as the folks who moved to Detroit had a collective purpose—building cars which were then sold, the profit from which built more cars–ad infinitum–a closed enterprise.
Sending rockets to mars is an open ended enterprise.
it has no more function and purpose than letting off fireworks in your backyard
that creates jobs for firework makers but nobody else
Good points!
Yes. The high tech colonization of the galaxy comes down to is there a place for the dogs to poo.
Any civilized society would allow dogs to roam free. It take a village.
Energy from the sun (it’s not actually unlimited because stars don’t last forever) already does come to the Earth if you haven’t noticed: space-based solar is just a different and supposedly superior way of harvesting it. However there’s no reason to believe that this proposed technology, even if it does one day become feasible, would have an EROEI significantly better than standard Earth based solar panels, and perhaps worse. https://dothemath.ucsd.edu/2012/03/space-based-solar-power/
the point of ‘harvesting’ anything is that you must:
a—use what you harvest for an immediate purpose
or
B—store what you harvest for a future purpose
we have perhaps got the concept of ‘harvesting’ a bit mentally mixed up—we harvest food, and use it or store it
electricity is not the same thing in practical terms, because it has to go through secondary phases—all involving industrial complexity, which must be constructed to facilitate storage. (using fossil fuels)
I might have missed a trick, but that means batteries or pumped hydro (which is a battery anyway)
Batteries always return a negative EROEI. So as ‘conventional’ energy resources deplete, we will (in theory) rely more and more on batteries.
Which makes perfect sense to unthinkers.
It isn’t possible to deliver the energy needs of nations from battery sources.
Good: in these dark times we all need some arousal, I am sure!
This won’t be feasible either
Why ‘flammable ice’ could be the future of energy – BBC Future Last year, Japan succeeded in extracting an untapped fuel from its ocean floor – methane hydrate, or flammable ice.
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20181119-why-flammable-ice-could-be-the-future-of-energy
Nor this
Thorium nuclear reactors as a bridge to renewable energy …https://www.theolympian.com › op-ed › article245284335 28/08/2020 — The U.S. should put thorium in its Climate Mitigation Plan because greenhouse gasses are a greater threat than nuclear waste and weapons, …
But these are really uplifting stories… just like we are going 100% EV in a few years… we are phasing out coal… etc etc etc.
Everyone wants hope of some kind or other. Energy hope, or religious hope, or hope that education will fix all differences among people.
I have hope as well… and it’s the only realistic hope…
My hope … is that humans are wiped off the face of the Earth … and that not all species are wiped out by the spent fuel ponds.
Greta and the Green Grooopies should be my acolytes.
Old street song from Pamplona:
‘I dreamed some impossible things:
That fire froze,
That ice burned,
That you loved me!’
We at OFW just love cock and bull stories about energy miracles just round the corner!
Today I was thinking about the history of the place where I live. It is a part of the village called “Lapaš”, which in English means “Catcher”. There was a pub above my home, where, during the Austro-Hungarian Empire, young men were “caught” for military service.
Then they went to war and killed other people, reducing the population. Recruited at the pub at crossroads on the northeastern slope of a hill, where the alcohol was provided as the replacement for missing energy…
In England, army recruits got a drink and a low-denomination coin, not even £1.
At one time, the Navy could just round up and capture sailors for warships – I’m not sure when that stopped exactly.
But they at least got huge amounts of rum while serving, really very generous, unlike the soldiers.
Interesting.
Yesterday, I overhead some bits of the dialogue of my neighbour with the couple of the retired dentists who inhabit the place, where the pub was situated, that they inherited from their parents: My neighbour was talking about “slivovica” (alcohol made from plums) as the vaccine against coronavirus.
Another friend of mine told me about a man stinking of alcohol he met who told him that he needs no vaccine, just “rumcajza” (i.e. rum; this colloquial name for rum is from the name of a Czech fictional fair-tale character Rumcajs, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumcajs).
The vaccination rate in Slovaka seems to linger around 30 %, there are enough vaccines, but the public is not much interested. I guess the 3rd round of coronavirus restrictions is behind the door…
The most popular member of the government today in Slovakia: an army physician as the minister of health:
https://m.smedata.sk/api-media/media/image/sme/9/69/6913289/6913289_1200x.jpeg?rev=2
During the war against Napoleon in Spain, it was observed that English officers who did not drink brandy when on campaign tended to die of nasty infections and dysentery, but those who had some every day were much healthier. The Romans relied on vinegar, I believe.
My indestructible great-grandmother certainly did well enough on her nightly drop of whisky.
The Basque country drink ‘pacharan’, which contains sloe berries, cinnamon and anis, was regarded in the Middle Ages as a medicine.
I have many jars of it, quietly maturing to a deep ruby colour – the greatest risk is probably gathering the berries in the winter wind!
The above does not constitute medical advice, but it may lead to happiness…..
I am just playing this fine piece, which I like very much:
my favorite version by Morgan James
https://youtu.be/Axb7fF8nldU
A nice cover.
The ways towards population reduction can be various:
2 weeks ago, I learned that a granddaughter of the man from the distant family, who co-owned a plot with my mother and commited a fraud when selling a part of this plot, which caused damage to my mother, got cancer and her ovaries and womb had to be amputated. The man itself died in an accident with his tractor some 25 years ago.
The laws of physics determine our lives much more than we think. We try to escape one wall, which is closer and closer to us and hit another one…
MG, true and let us not forget organized chaos too, known as randomness, chance or fate….
Remember a Business Professor discussing the reasons for bankruptcy in a text book and he mentioned one that was not listed in the textbook…Lady Luck….
Let’s imagine New Zealand as the worlds first AI country.
All work and government will be done by AIs, aka machines of loving grace.
Electric train service from tip (south) to tip (north) will be the principle transport. It will be run, inspected, maintained, repaired by our friends the AIs. All NZ will be electric. Lights heat pumps, transport. The hydro dams will supply the electric. The electric system will of course be managed and run by AIs. NZ will be self sufficient in food plenty of mutton and apples and fish. All grown and harvested by by AIs.
The number of humans will be adjusted to the carrying capacity of AI New Zealand. Flying will be out except for emergency AI repairs. Sailing will be popular with Kiwis. Wooden boats and canvas sails built by the local friendly AI boat wright. The ski slopes and lifts will be maintained by AIs.
Can NZ make its own memory chips and thought chips is unknown this maybe a global enterprise. Chips for mutton?
There will of course be no oil, coal, natural gas.
I can not wait to visit AI New Zealand.
Since Elon’s Starships can be powered by synthetic methane made from CO2 and water ad electric from the SPS long haul transport will be fast. I can fly from NYC to Sydney in 90 minutes and then take an electric ship to NZ, a sleeper, one day trip.
I’m guessing Gail will say there won’t be the electricity for this. Bu maybe a dictatorship could pull off something close-enough with humans?
I don’t think that New Zealand has the processed rare earth minerals to make semiconductor chips. I expect that it can’t make much of anything else needed to make anything like a computer. There are lot of different kinds of materials needed.
Gail, batteries and magnets need significant amounts of rare earths. As best I know chips use many rare earths and rare elements but in small small quantities.
we have no rare earths here.
yes I know but I only need a little bit.
Rare Earth… I just want to celebrate another day of living https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRVPLPFoJL0
Hi Gail, I’m not aware of semiconductors requiring rare earth elements. Strong permanent magnets use them, as do nickel metal-hydride batteries. Lithium batteries (for which huge future growth is expected), do not use rare earth elements, but some formulations use cobalt, which is rare, but not a rare earth element.
Gold is used in integrated circuits for the chip-to-package wires, but this is not in short supply. Semiconductors are almost entirely silicon with minuscule amounts of dopants from the periodic table columns either side of silicon’s column.
The present semiconductor shortages are as much due to drought in Taiwan as anything else!
Ed,
are you writing fiction and looking for ideas?
Try reddit, they go for this kind of Star Trek future.
Your whole post is ridiculous – to give a simple example, there are no robots (AI or not) capable to ” inspected, maintained, repaired” anything – not outside of a tightly controlled lab environment.
But I guess anything is better than excepting humanity’s limitations
but but robots can dance!
Ed has a man-crush on Elon….
Elon, Xi, and Vlad will save human civilization.
I like that you are here, Ed but Elon does not exist for humanity. He exists for environmental enslavement. He is here to initiate the simulation not report of it.
Fast for you Prof Witbrock of U of Auckland talk future of thinking (AI).
“—a computer scientist in the field of artificial intelligence.”
Hint:
AI is dying
I was born in 1965 and I distinctly recall as a child riding around in a self-driven car… in fact I think the car could fly…
But alas… we lost the technology to do these things
https://youtu.be/16MMZJlp_0Y
the story i heard on the Saturn V lost plans was NASA placed all the design blueprints in a trailer, which later caught fire. this was before computer backup of the drawings, so all the details were lost. they do have the solid model, however, on display at the Space Center in Houston, TX. a little retro engineering…?
AI is dead. Long live AI. Not worried.