There is more to the fossil fuel energy predicament than we usually hear about.
Strangely enough, a big part of the confusion regarding the nature of our energy problem comes from the fact that virtually everyone wants to hear good news, even when the news isn’t very good. We end up seeing information in the Mainstream Media mostly from the perspective of what people want to hear, rather than from the perspective of what the story really is. In this post, I explain why this situation tends to occur. I also explain why our current energy situation is starting to look more and more like an energy shortage situation that could lead to economic collapse.
This post is a write-up of a presentation I gave recently. A PDF of my talk can be found at this link. An mp4 video of my talk can be found at this link: Gail Tverberg’s Nov. 9 presentation–Our Fossil Fuel Energy Predicament.
Most people attending my talk reported that they had mostly heard about the issue on the right end of Slide 2: the problem of using too much fossil fuel and related climate change.
I think the real issue is the one shown on the left side of Slide 2. This is a physics issue. Without fossil fuels, we would find it necessary to go back to using older renewables, such as oxen or horses for plowing, burned wood and other biomass for heat, and wind-powered sail boats for international transport.
Needless to say, these older renewables are only available in tiny quantities today, if they are available at all. They wouldn’t provide many jobs other than those depending on manual labor, such as subsistence agriculture. Nuclear and modern renewables would not be available because they depend on fossil fuels for their production, maintenance and long distance transmission lines.
On Slide 4, note that M. King Hubbert was a physicist. This seems to be the academic specialty that finds holes in other people’s wishful thinking.
Another thing to note is Hubbert’s willingness to speculate about the future of nuclear energy. He seemed to believe that nuclear energy could take over, when other energy fails. Needless to say, this hasn’t happened. Today, nuclear energy comprises only 4% of the world’s total energy supply.
The transcript of the entire talk by Rear Admiral Hyman Rickover is worth reading. I have excerpted a few sentences from his talk. His talk took place only a year after Hubbert published his research.
Rickover clearly understood the important role that fossil fuels played in the economy. At that early date, it looked as if fossil fuels would become too expensive to extract between 2000 and 2050. A doubling of unit costs for energy may not sound like much, but it is, if a person thinks about how much poor people in poor countries spend on food and other energy products. If the price of these goods rises from 25% of their income to 50% of their income, there is not enough left over for other goods and services.
Regarding Slide 6, the book The Limits to Growth by Donella Meadows and others provided early computer modeling of how population growth and extraction of resources might play out. The base model seemed to indicate that economic decline would start about now. Various other scenarios were considered, including a doubling of the resources. Without very unrealistic assumptions, the economy always headed downward before 2100.
Another way of approaching the problem is to analyze historical civilizations that have collapsed. Peter Turchin and Sergey Nefedov analyzed eight economies that collapsed in their book Secular Cycles. There have been many examples of economies encountering a new source of energy (conquering a new land, or developing a new way of producing more energy), growing for a time, reaching a time where growth is more limited, and finally discovering that the economy that had been built up could no longer be supported by the resources available. Both population and production of goods and services tended to crash.
We can think of the current economy, based on the use of fossil fuels, as likely following a similar path. Coal began to be used in quantity about 200 years ago, in 1820. The economy grew, as oil and natural gas production was added. We seem to have hit a period of “Stagflation,” about 1970, which is 50 years ago. The timing might be right to enter the “Crisis” period, about now.
We don’t know how long such a Crisis Period might last this time. Early economies were very different from today’s economy. They didn’t depend on electricity, international trade or international finance in the same way that today’s world economy does. It is possible (in fact, fairly likely) that the downslope might occur more rapidly this time.
Past Crisis Periods seem to feature a high level of conflict because rising population leads to a situation where there are no longer enough goods and services to go around. According to Turchin and Nefedov, some features of the Crisis Periods included increased wage disparity, collapsing or overturned governments, debt defaults, inadequate tax revenue and epidemics. Economists tell us that there is a physics reason for the rich to get richer and the poor to get poorer during Crisis Periods; in some sense, the poor get “frozen out” and the wealth rises to the top, like steam.
Slide 9 is a chart I prepared several years ago, showing the growth in the world production of fuels of various types. What little wind and solar was available at that time was included in the biofuels section at the bottom. Early biofuels consisted largely of wood and charcoal used for heat.
Slide 10 shows average annual increases for 10-year periods corresponding to the periods shown on Slide 9. This chart goes to 2020, so it covers a full 200-year period. Note that the increases in energy consumption shown are especially high in the 1951-1960 and 1961-1970 periods. These periods occurred after World War II when the economy was growing especially rapidly.
Slide 11 is similar to Slide 10, except I divide the bars into two pieces. The bottom, blue part corresponds to the amount that population grew, on average, during this ten-year period. Whatever is left over I have referred to as the amount available to increase the standard of living, shown in red. A person can see that when the overall growth in energy consumption is high, population tends to rise rapidly. With more energy, it is possible to feed and clothe larger families.
Slide 12 is like Slide 11, except that it is an area chart. I have also added some notes regarding what went wrong when energy consumption growth was low or negative. An early dip occurred at the time of the US Civil War. There was a very long, low period later that corresponded to the period of World War I, World War II and the Depression. The collapse of the central government of the Soviet Union occurred in 1991, so it is part of the 10-year period ended 2000. Most recently, we have encountered COVID shutdowns.
The peaks, on the other hand, tended to be good times. The period leading up to 1910 corresponded to the time of early electrification. The period after World War II was a period of growth and rebuilding. Most recently, China and its large coal resources helped pull the world economy forward. China’s coal supply stopped growing about 2013. I have written that we can no longer depend on China’s economy to pull the world economy forward. With recent rolling blackouts in China (mentioned in the next section), this is becoming more evident.
Without enough energy, the current period is beginning to look more and more like the period that included World War I and II and the Great Depression. Strange outcomes can occur when there basically are not enough resources to go around.
Slide 14 shows recent energy production. A person can see from this slide that wind and solar aren’t really ramping up very much. A major problem is caused by the fact that wind and solar are given the subsidy of “going first” and prices paid to other electricity producers are adjusted downward, to reflect the fact that their electricity is no longer needed by the grid. This approach tends to drive nuclear out of business because wholesale electricity rates tend to fall to very low levels, or become negative, when unneeded wind and solar are added. Nuclear power plants cannot easily shut down. Instead, the low prices tend to drive the nuclear power plants out of business. This is sad, because electricity from nuclear is far more stable, and thus more helpful to the grid, than electricity from wind or solar.
Fossil fuel producers need quite high energy prices for a variety of reasons. One of these reasons is simply because the easiest-to-extract resources were removed first. In recent years, producers have needed to move on to resources with a higher cost of extraction, thus raising their required selling prices. Wages of ordinary citizens haven’t kept up, making it hard for selling prices to rise sufficiently to cover the new higher costs.
Another issue is that fossil fuel energy prices need to cover far more than the cost of drilling the current well. Producers need to start to develop new areas to drill, years in advance of actually getting production from those sites. They need extra funds to work on these new sites.
Also, oil companies, especially, have historically paid high taxes. Besides regular income taxes, oil companies pay state taxes and royalty taxes. These taxes are a way of passing the “surplus energy” that is produced back to the rest of the economy, in the form of taxes. This is exactly the opposite of wind and solar that need subsidies of many kinds, especially the subsidy of “going first,” that drives other electricity providers out of business.
Prices for oil, coal and natural gas have been far lower than producers need, for a long time. The COVID shutdowns in 2020 made the problem worse. Now, with producers quitting at the same time the economy is trying to reopen, it is not surprising that some prices are spiking.
Most local US papers don’t tell much about world energy prices, but these are increasingly becoming a big problem. Natural gas is expensive to ship and store, so prices vary greatly around the world. US natural gas prices have roughly doubled from a year ago, but this is a far lower increase than many other parts of the world are experiencing. In fact, the bills that most US natural gas residential customers will receive will increase by far less than 100% because at the historic low price, over half of the price for residential service is distribution expenses, and such expenses don’t change very much.
Slide 17 shows another way of looking at data that is similar to that in Slide 14. This slide shows amounts on a per capita basis, with groupings I have chosen. I think of coal and oil as being pretty much the only energy resources that can “stand on their own.” The recent peak year for combined coal and oil, on a per capita basis, was 2008.
Natural gas, nuclear, and hydroelectric were the first add-ons. If a person looks closely, it can be seen that the growth rate of this group has slowed, at least in part because of the pricing problems caused by wind and solar.
The “green” sources at the bottom are growing, but from a very low base. The main reason for their growth is the subsidies they receive. If fossil fuels falter in any major way, it will adversely affect the growth of wind and solar. Already, there are articles about supply chain problems for the big wind turbines. Any cutback in subsidies is also harmful to their production.
US papers don’t tell us much about these problems, but they are getting to be very serious problems in other parts of the world. The countries with the biggest problems are the ones trying to import natural gas or coal. If an exporting country finds its own production falling short, it is likely to make certain that its own citizens are adequately supplied first, before providing exports to others. Thus, importing countries may find very high prices, or supplies simply not available.
This slide got a lot of laughs. The university does have some sort of agricultural plot, but teaching subsistence farming is not its goal.
My point about “scientists who are not pressured by the need for research grants or acceptance of written papers are the ones trying to tell the whole truth” got quite a few laughs. As a practical matter, this means that retired scientists tend to be disproportionately involved in trying to discern the truth.
With the military understanding the need to work around energy limits, one change has been to move away from preparation for “hot wars” to more interest in biological weapons, such as viruses. Thus, governments of many countries, including the United States, Canada, France, Italy, Australia and China, have funded research on making viruses more virulent. The vaccine-making industry also supported this effort because it might enhance the industry’s ability to make and sell more vaccines. It was believed that there might even be new techniques that would develop from this new technology that would increase the overall revenue generated by the healthcare industry.
Questions came up, both during the talk and later, about what other changes have taken place because of the need for much of the audience to hear a story with a happily ever after ending, and because of the known likely decline of the economy for physics reasons. Clearly one thing that happens is successful entrepreneurs, such as Elon Musk, aim their production in areas where subsidies will be available. With fossil fuel production not making money, fossil fuel producers are even willing to undertake renewable projects if subsidies seem to be high enough. The issue isn’t really, “What is sustainable?” It is much more, “Where will the profits be, given where subsidies will be, and what people are being taught about how to perceive today’s problems?”
In fact, what has been happening in recent years is that a great deal of debt has been added to the world economy. Mostly, this added debt seems to be creating added inflation. It definitely is not leading to the rapid extraction of a great deal more fossil fuels, which is what really would allow the production of more goods and services. If inflation leads to higher interest rates, this, by itself, could destabilize the financial system.
I tried to explain, as I have in the past, how a self-organizing economy works. New citizens are born, and old ones pass away. New businesses are formed, and they add new products, keeping in mind what products citizens want and can afford. Governments add laws and taxes, as situations change. Energy is needed at every step in production, so availability of inexpensive energy is important in the operation of the economy, as well. There are equivalences, such as employees tend also to be customers. If the wages of employees are high, they can afford to buy many goods and services; if wages are low, employees will be very restricted in what they can afford.
In some sense, the economy is hollow inside, because the economy will stop manufacturing unneeded products. If an economy starts making cars, for example, it will phase out products associated with transportation using horse and buggy.
A self-organizing economy clearly does not operate in the simple way economists seem to model the economy. Low prices can be just as big a problem as high prices, for example.
Another issue is that the energy needs of an economy seem to depend on its population and how far it has already been built up. For example, roads, bridges, water distribution pipelines and electricity transmission infrastructure must all be maintained, even if the population falls. We know humans need something like 2000 calories a day of food. Economies seem to have a similar constant need for energy, based on both the number of people in the economy and the amount of infrastructure that has been built up. There is no way to cut back very much, without the economy collapsing.
I am not exactly certain when the first discussion of the economy as a dissipative structure (self-organizing system powered by energy) started. When I prepared this slide, I was thinking that perhaps it was in 1996, when Yoshinori Shizoawa wrote a paper called Economy as a Dissipative Structure. However, when I did a search today, I encountered an earlier paper by Robert Ayres, written in 1988, also discussing the economy as a dissipative structure. So, the idea has been around for a very long time. But getting ideas from one part of academia to other parts of academia seems to be a very slow process.
Debt cannot grow indefinitely, either, because there needs to be a way for it to be paid back in a way that produces real goods and services. Without adequate energy supplies, it becomes impossible to produce the goods and services that consumers need.
Attendees asked about earlier posts that might be helpful in understanding our current predicament. This is the list I provided:
Humans Left Sustainability Behind as Hunter Gatherers – Dec. 2, 2020
How the World’s Energy Problem Has Been Hidden – June 21, 2021
Energy Is the Economy; Shrinkage in Energy Supply Leads to Conflict – Nov. 9, 2020
Why a Great Reset Based on Green Energy Isn’t Possible – July 17, 2020
The “Wind and Solar Will Save Us” Delusion – Jan. 30, 2017
Does anyone else automatically categorize someone who was not forced to be injected and does, a MOREON?
Only if they have previously been exposed to OFW comments section and still get injected.
After reading the OFW comments section, I feel even more moreonic.
i was under the impression that the basic requirement for being in the moreon categpry was asking why the emperor has no clothes on.
OMICRON anagram ONCOMIR
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oncomir#:~:text=An%20oncomir%20(also%20oncomiR)%20is,coding%20for%20a%20specific%20protein
An oncomir (also oncomiR) is a microRNA (miRNA) that is associated with cancer. MicroRNAs are short RNA molecules about 22 nucleotides in length. Essentially, miRNAs specifically target certain messenger RNAs (mRNAs) to prevent them from coding for a specific protein. The dysregulation of certain microRNAs (oncomirs) has been associated with specific cancer forming (oncogenic) events. Many different oncomirs have been identified in numerous types of human cancers.
Oncomirs are associated with carcinogenesis, malignant transformation, and metastasis. Some oncomir genes are oncogenes, in that overexpression of the gene leads to cancerous growth. Other oncomir genes are tumor suppressors in a normal cell, so that underexpression of the gene leads to cancerous growth.
PubMed search on ONCOMIR yields 937 results. Top of the list is a study about Acute Myeloid Leukemia titled:
OncomiR or antioncomiR: Role of miRNAs in Acute Myeloid Leukemia.
That AML rang a bell so I searched a combo “Retinoic Acid and AML” for 972 results. Top of the list there has this title:
Decitabine and all-trans retinoic acid synergistically exhibit cytotoxicity against elderly AML patients via miR-34a/MYCN axis.
Something going on here.
More from Wiki
General mechanism
Oncomirs cause cancer by down-regulating genes by both translational repression and mRNA destabilization mechanisms. These down-regulated genes may code for proteins that regulate the cell’s life cycle.
Oncomirs may be at increased or decreased levels within cancerous tissue. In the case of increased oncomir activity, the oncomir is likely suppressing a tumor suppressor gene. In cases of underexpressed oncomirs, regulation is attenuated, allowing the cell to proliferate freely.
Viruses have also been found to have miRNA that mimic parts of natural regulatory human miRNA’s. One example is the Epstein–Barr virus (EBV) which is associated with various types of cancer.
WIKI:
The first link between miRNA and the growth of cancer was reported in 2002 when researchers observed a down-regulation of miR-15a and miR-16-1 in B-cell chronic lymphocytic leukemia patients. The term is a portmanteau, derived from “oncogenic” + “miRNA”, coined by Scott M. Hammond in a 2006 paper characterizing OncomiR-1.
Am I to understand that the Elders created and released the omicron variant, then made sure that it would be named something that, when unscrambled, would provide a clue to their nefarious plans?
= mind blown =
that would be strange, like some secret-handshake. It’s the cancer thing that gets me wondering. Is it possible that the inoculations are designed to treat recipients for cancer? Is there something that happened like a plutonium accident that put this thing into high-gear a few years ago? I’m coming at this more from the Retinoic Acid angle lately after finding out it can be delivered inside a nano-lipid and has been researched to no end regarding cancer, and used as treatment to some success they say. Just trying to think outside the box.
This is an immense project, clearly.
They now have whole populations to experiment on just as they like, without any restraint or ethical limits.
No doubt they are following several lines of promising investigation.
How much of this to kill, and how quickly? How much of this to cure? How much to sterilise? etc.
Squeak and scratch, YOU are now a guinea pig……but don’t worry, ‘Covid is more dangerous!’
When they gt full control of the food supply, they will experiment with nutrition, too.
Positive note: for a time, most of us are still valuable as experimental subjects.
yeah, hear that, gets harder to opt-out due to life-inertia but the food will probably become a deal-breaker for many as time goes on, especially if they’re caught stuffing it with nano-tech. I think I read they’re already talking about anti-virals going that direction.
Xabier, I’m afraid on the food question that already happened to some degree, e.g. French exports highest content of residual pesticides, CEE getting different %content of similar international branded products, .. , Polish apples so full on … they basically sit there for months and years not aging at all.., Baltic fish full of poison, although Russians have been largely out for decades, .. etc..
The date on the YouTube surprised me.
I didn’t see a date on the YouTube. What date did you find?
here’s a good example of where they’re at with this stuff. This is pediatric oncology. They’re using CAS9 – Crisper technology and Retinoic Acid
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0925443919303746?via%3Dihub
There is something deeper that we don’t undertsand yet. For example I already talked about Merieux here, their subsidiary Transgene develops vaccines against cancers, using viruses to stimulate immune reactions. The Merieux family are close friends with Xi and his wife, and provided the PCR tests to China.
at 8:11 the co-inventor says
“I actually think that the first applications of the CRISPR technology are going to happen in the BLOOD, where it’s relatively easier to DELIVER this tool into cells.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdBAHexVYzc
PubMed title:
Exploiting the CRISPR‐Cas9 gene‐editing system for human cancers and immunotherapy
It wouldn’t be at all strange if one bears in mind the tendency of psychopaths to indulge in little jokes, to mock their victims, and to see just how far they can go in deceiving their ‘inferiors’ and victims.
‘I’m going to do THIS to you: look I’m telling you all about it and still you don’t see! That’s why I deserve to dominate, and you to be under me.’
Look at the little jokes which were played on people in the horrors of 20th century.
Now we have camps being built in various countries, with the amusing conceit of calling them ‘Voluntary Self-Isolation Centres’, or ‘Centres for Reslience’.
This is a typical Totalitarian sense of humour.
Only the naive – the historically illiterate – can’t see what is going on.
Sort of like the Riddler in Batman.
Or how about Joe Biden as President of United States?
The Overloards think that is hilarious.
“Take this you deplorable vermin.”
yes, and they seem to go way back, even to puns inserted all over the Mediterranean world by Phoenicians shoving their dominance in everybody’s face over centuries
a bit more looking around and ….
The letter name is derived from Proto-Semitic “ayn” – “eye”.
The Phoenician letter had the shape of a circle or oval, clearly representing an eye.
Both an omicron and a dash imply that “this isn’t a mistake, the cell is actually supposed to be empty”. By coincidence, the ancient zero-value omicron (ο) resembles a modern Hindu-Arabic zero (0).
Omicron is used to designate the fifteenth star in a constellation group, its ordinal placement an irregular function of both magnitude and position. Such stars include Omicron Andromedae, Omicron Ceti, and Omicron Persei.
Could be “stretching-it” with this leap, but ……
The Andromeda Strain is a 1969 techno-thriller novel by Michael Crichton, his first novel under his own name and his sixth novel overall. It is written as a report documenting the efforts of a team of scientists investigating the outbreak of a deadly extraterrestrial microorganism in Arizona. The Andromeda Strain appeared in the New York Times Best Seller list, establishing Michael Crichton as a genre writer.
I’ve wondered if Jack Alston Crichton might be Michaels uncle.
https://spartacus-educational.com/MDcrichton.htm
Great https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/covid-19-australia-records-sixth-omicron-case-after-woman-visited-nsw-central-coast-venues-while-infectious/Y2NJBIODIATPDU5ACDV72KAHUI/
“World Medical Association boss compares new strain of Covid with Ebola” – “The chairman of the World Medical Association, Frank Ulrich Montgomery, believes that a new strain of the Omicron could become as dangerous as the Ebola virus,” https://news.am/eng/news/674604.html
Kentucky HS investigated; students seen giving teachers LAP DANCES
https://youtu.be/7w_JSJlCjxU
Florida Man had better get his act together if he hopes to win the redneck prize this year–he’s got some real competition.
Wow, they really are pushing the limits of the credible with this one!
Ebola?!!!
I’m afraid they have discovered, if they didn’t already know it, that gullibility has no limits. They can literally get with any kind of nonsense, because most human beings are incapable of detecting contradictions in a given speech. Common sense (not to mention logic) is much less common in the human mind than Descartes assumed.
Ebola has not left central Africa to any significant extent. Any virus that quickly kills its victims has a difficult time spreading.
Masks Have Made No Meaningful Difference to Delta – Oxford Professor
https://dailysceptic.org/2021/11/29/masks-have-made-no-meaningful-difference-to-delta-oxford-professor/
https://dailysceptic.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/UK-masks-L-211129.jpg
Christmas Work Parties Cancelled Over Omicron Variant Fears
https://dailysceptic.org/2021/11/29/christmas-work-parties-cancelled-over-omicron-variant-fears/
I know people who were due to go back to the office 60% next year: now too scared to do it…….
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/11/28/omicron-will-cause-chaos-schools-warn-mps/
In an attempt to prevent the spread of the mutant strain of Covid, close contacts of those who test positive for omicron will have to self-isolate for 10 days, with the Government confirming that this applies to children.
On Sunday night, ministers were warned that the move risks a repeat of the situation during the summer term when thousands of healthy children were told to stay at home.
Steve Baker MP, deputy chairman of the Covid Recovery Group, said the measures “will cause chaos including collateral harms like damage to children’s education”, adding: “The Government needs to explain when all of this will be brought to an end.”
Parents have called for children to be exempt from the new self-isolation rules.
Molly Kingsley, co-founder of parent campaign group UsForThem, said: “We learnt from summer that forcing healthy children to isolate was an unmitigated disaster and it is unforgivable to do that again.
“If they don’t exempt children it will cause chaos in the classrooms. Asking healthy children to quarantine is not a harm-free measure, it is harmful to children who are not at serious risk from the illness. At this point in the pandemic it is shameful for the Government not to have an exemption for children.”
Earlier this year, the Telegraph launched a campaign calling for an end to disruption in schools and for children to be put at the heart of policy making.
In a further blow to the end of term, the UK’s biggest teaching union was arguing on Sunday night for a return of the ‘bubble’ system and for all in-person nativity plays and other Christmas activities to be axed, as the Government confirmed facemasks would have to be worn in secondary school corridors from Monday.
Teachers are bloody pathetic: some alarm in March 2020 was prudent.
Now, it’s pure idiocy.
Australia reports 5 cases https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/hong-kong-expands-travel-curbs-omicron-fears-australia-reports-5-cases-2021-11-30/
hahahaha… excellent
Booster period halves again
Just as I predicted
A few weeks ago I wrote a joke article, saying that booster dose frequency would double with each dose, going from 6 months, to 3 months, and so on, leading to a “singularity point” next July when the booster frequency becomes infinite.
Little did I know, that my joke so far is becoming “not a joke” and policymaking geniuses did indeed halve the booster period again, from 6 months to 3 months.
https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/booster-frequency-halves-again
Let’s just repeat that … in case norm missed it…. word is that Pfizer is going to release a One a Day version of the Vaccine shortly
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ucw5LF19_Hs/maxresdefault.jpg
noorrrrrrmmmmmmmm dunnnnccccccc mikkkkkkkkkkeeeeee…. Here’s your fate so why not read up on it https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/23940.Junky
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ucw5LF19_Hs/maxresdefault.jpg
This signals the end of days
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2021/10/29/kentucky-lap-dance-principal-in-more-hot-water-after-madonnas-like-a-virgin-video-surfaces-1155632/
Booster period halves again
Just as I predicted
A few weeks ago I wrote a joke article, saying that booster dose frequency would double with each dose, going from 6 months, to 3 months, and so on, leading to a “singularity point” next July when the booster frequency becomes infinite.
Little did I know, that my joke so far is becoming “not a joke” and policymaking geniuses did indeed halve the booster period again, from 6 months to 3 months.
https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/booster-frequency-halves-again
hahahahahaahahahahahaha holy sheeeeit – watch the video hahahahaha..
boost boost boost around mike gets around … norm norm norm norm … dunc dunc dunc… they all get around … around and around
Do we get the sense that the Elders are getting a bit desperate to get this Devil Covid to emerge????
https://blog.gorozen.com/blog/running-out-of-spare-capacity-global-oil-markets
Running Out of Spare Capacity
11/ 19/ 2021
our models suggest that we could be entering a new period in the history of oil – a period without any excess global pumping capability.
Last year, COVID-19-related shutdowns led to a widespread reduction in crude demand. Inventories built and US shale producers actively shut-in as much production as possible. OPEC+ agreed to a nearly 8 mm b/d supply cut to help balance markets. Inventories built at first but then immediately drew, as demand rebounded while production remained subdued. Prices rose as the market realized it was in near-term deficit by as much as 1.5 m b/d. Even though the market was in severe deficit, global demand did not exceed pumping capability. US shut-in production could quickly be reinstated and OPEC+ maintained ample spare capacity. We estimate that even as inventories were drawing more than 1 m b/d, pumping capacity exceeded demand by as much as 5 m b/d.
By the end of next year, our models tell us this cushion will have eroded completely.
but my model (5′ 11″ blonde) tells me that the cushion will remain a year from now because affordability/demand will be crashing throughout 2022.
I think she’s quite sharp.
I’d agree David.
A tall, sexy, woman is always to be agreed with, even when macro-economics are the subject of conversation.
A policy I have always followed myself: it’s resulted in some trouble, certainly, but…..
‘The benefits outweighed the risks!’
The catch is that the self-organizing economy is likely to “fix” this problem on its own, before it ever happens. One way might be by collapsing a lot of big businesses that would normally use energy products. This could happen because of the vaccine mandates. Or governments of quite a few countries could collapse. Or electricity problems in Europe will reduce its demand for oil products.
Thank you
In Armenia:
“how many vaccinated people have died of Covid?
“Ministry: 23. They all had other chronic illnesses or cancer. The average age was 75.
“After the 1.2 million vaccinations, there were 79 complaints by recipients. Half of it was related to patients who received the vaccine without realizing they were infected at the time of receiving the shot.
https://www.reddit.com/r/armenia/comments/r55rwm/news_nov292021_rurik_semyonov_new_cheap_power/
Fast Eddy is off to the doc to get a prescription for this in a couple of days… hydroxychloride
He needs it because he is traveling to Indonesia and will be visiting swamp that are infested with malarial mossies.
Maybe you can convince your vet that you are a horse.
Hmmm… she might call the police if I tried to convince her of that….
Did you not want hydroxychloroquine? Thought hydroxychloride was the ruse
Yes correct – the anti malarial… but I will get that other stuff too and send it to mike
Was Mike this awesome guy who once uttered: ‘But there is no harm in getting vaccinated in order to fit in with the governmental views and be able to get around more easily than the unvaccinated’
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Actually don’t think you need that trip
Green Tea Extra has been reported (seen several different sources) as a more effective ionophore for zinc than hydroxychloriquine – GTE readily available OTC and not as expensive as other OTCs ionophores like Quercetin. I have always equated Green Tea = Asian diet = low infection rates Japan/Korea, but then they also have high Vit D diets from seafood/seaweed I believe.
Then saw a link this morning hypothesizing that one reason for Japanese low infection rates is the regular consumption of Miso soup – supposedly a source of Vit D and other nutrients with antiviral properties
Your buddy Bossche and Internatation Conference et al all endorsed the approach of Vit D Vit C Zinc Selenium and other balance nutritional approaches to boosting innate immune response (primary response in upper respiratory/nasal mucosal tissues)
As I am sure you will be looking to poke the bear during you appointment, please report on how your GP responds to the above suggestions (if so inclined)
Have a fun time
HONG KONG, Nov 30 (Reuters) – Hong Kong has banned non-residents from entering the city from four African countries and plans to expand that to travellers who have been to Australia, Canada, Israel and six European countries in the past 21 days due to fears over Omicron.
https://www.reuters.com/world/china/hong-kong-bans-non-resident-arrivals-13-more-countries-due-omicron-2021-11-30/
See how easy it is to shut back down!
How C8 MCT oil powers the brain:
https://www.bulletproof.com/news/mct-oil-for-brain-health/
How is this different from sprinkling a little coconut on a person’s morning bowl of oatmeal?
C8 is just 8 % of coconut oil
https://www.google.com/search?q=coconut+oil+composition&oq=coconut+oil+composition&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i19l2j0i19i22i30l7.3400j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/ketone-drink-may-one-day-fight-alzheimer-s-disease-and-dementia-1.4438354
“For a period of six months, 52 seniors with mild cognitive impairments were given a daily placebo or 30 grams of “medium-chain triglycerides” (MCTs) in the form of a liquid dietary supplement. MCTs enhance the body’s production of ketones.”
“Changing the level of plaque in the brain doesn’t seem to have worked but if we try to change the energy level and try to get it back to normal, we have a better chance, we believe, of slowing down the disease,” he added. “Our cognitive results so far definitely lead to that impression.”
The question I have is, “What happens when our supply chain can no longer provide C8 MCT?”
Is this something that our brains get “addicted to”?
If our brain is working pretty well without it, perhaps we should leave it for people who truly have cognitive decline to worry about.
People do not want simple and good enuf – plus they consume far more energy using the highly processed, packaged and over-optimized product
They are finding the meaning of life as has been elucidate here – dissipate more energy with your every action so as to increase/maximize entropy
(Also they are not able to whine/brag about how much they have/get to spend for the “proper” morning boost in their coffee – lol)
Stream of conciousness – Optimization ==> Reminds me of Jevon’s paradox
Typically stated as:
By making utilization of a resource more efficient – the net result is that over time consumption of the resource will be increased …”
The important part usually left out:
unless some form of rationing or control over supply accompanies the efficiency improvement to limit overall resource exploitation
(The usual example is increase car efficiency actually lead to more usage of gasoline (oil/capita went up) than if cars remained inefficient and more expensive – only rationing or a free market limit on overall oil production would have prevented this)
This is the real conundrum of social organization and life’s mastery of the universe – finding sufficient satisfaction while minimizing the entropy thus created
If you are like me… some months ago, I begin to wonder “Is it really possible that humans can be stupid or naive or moreonic?” Is it possible that there exist “mass psychosis” even those who are so street smart, knowledgeable and wise? Is it even possible? The level of retarded-ness is just unbelieveable
Because of this, I am subscribed very much into the simulation theory. Perhaps the Creator/Higher Power is really having fun with this simulation and we are just his eyes and ears.
Gail you say that oil needs to be above $90 a barrel for break even but it has been way below that for some time. Why are we not seeing oil and energy shortages by now?
‘But there is no harm in getting vaccinated in order to fit in with the governmental views and be able to get around more easily than the unvaccinated’
Did someone actually say that????? Wow…..
That’s like putting your head into a meat grinder
I believe Dunce lives by that credo. As comedian Ron White would say “you can’t fix stoopid”
https://www.voiceforscienceandsolidarity.org/videos-and-interviews/the-only-fight-you-should-have-is-the-fight-for-your-health
After watching this the takeaway is … stay as far away as possible from vaxxed CovIDIOTS… they will be the ones harbouring the nasty version of this virus … and they are DANGEROUS.
Diseased scum. Vile sickens sacks of morbidity.
Has Dr. Andreas Noack of Germany suffered the same fate as Kary Mullis? Dr. Noack has just allegedly been found dead by his girlfriend after publishing his findings on the contents of the jab. He explains the chemistry of why high performance athletes are mysteriously collapsing in a 20 minute video.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/WCfyNz0eK6zV/
Like injecting razor blades? I am afraid I cannot be the person to evaluate this.
Nano-scale tiny razor blades just one atom thick, in latices made from graphene dioxide, not biologically decomposable (meaning it can’t be broken down by biological processes in the body AT ALL!
If the late Dr. Noak is correct, this stuff is in at least some of the COVID-19 jab juice, and if it gets into your body it will slice you up a treat!
“These nanoscale structures can best be described as razor blades.”
“So these are razor breads spread homogeneously in the liquid. This is basically Russian roulette. You can see it very clearly in this woman. It cuts the blood vessels. The blood vessels have epithelial tissues as their inner lining. . The epithelium is extremely smooth like a mirror. And it is cut up by these razor blades. That’s what’s so dangerous.”
These are indeed razor blades as graphene is a one-atom thick sheet of diamond (hardest material known to man). So this is as much a physical as a bio-chemical problem. The real question is how big these nanoparticles are. If they are small enough eventually the human body can attach a molecule to them and drag them to kidneys or liver (the attachment point would be one or more oxygen atoms at the edge of the sheet). The literature I have seen specifies a clearing time of order 100 days for nanoparticles used in medical tagging. But it is reasonable to expect substantially different times for different sizes.
The human body also has ways to take out whole cells, which surely are much larger than any nanoparticle, so I am not convinced that the damage is permanent and irreversible. If a cell has a nanoparticle inside, you just destroy the whole cell. We will find out soon enough, like two years from now.
It would appear that Dr Noak’s team had determined that graphene hydroxide (not dioxide) is a component of the vaxxines. He suggests there is no known use for this. As such, we the public and consumers of these chemicals should demand an immediate answer.
Personally, I believe this is the most important presentation this year. This doctor was murdered immediately afterwards, and left behind a pregnant wife. This should be such a compelling story as it stands. I’m doing my best to promote it, but I can’t get the angle figured out.
Hydroxide! Quite so. Sorry about that.
We can spread the word among the awake (although not among the woke) but at least for the moment there are not nearly enough people awake and we don’t appear to have the collective strength to change the current policy.
Most people I am in contact with around the world are double jabbed and seem OK about being triple jabbed and they would probably hate been told about this graphene hydroxide ingredient in the jabs they’ve already taken. Also, they would be irritated by the messenger—more irritated by me giving them this information than they would be at TPTB for jabbing them with the poison.
We are collectively in the position of people like Jeremiah or Cassandra who could see the future but powerless to do anything about it.
You’ve nailed it.
I’ve been looking for a story so compelling that it would warrant a quick look by those whose eyes might be able to be pried open for even just a few seconds.
A German doctor murdered following a compelling presentation leaving behind a pregnant wife.
Murdered!
If this, along side all the dead football players doesn’t do that, what will it take?
Bonhoeffer‘s Theory of Stupidity — This might not provide us with answers, but it helps to define the scope of the problem we have to deal with.
Steve Kirsch mentioned he has some files of the vaccines in for analysis a couple of weeks ago
I know nothing about Dr. Noack except that he was attacked live by the gestapo last year, but graphene oxide is very high on my list of suspects in the ongoing poisoning process. RIP Dr. Noack (if it is true that he’s dead).
Heartbreaking video by pregnant wife, after his death
https://www.bitchute.com/video/IhEFeoYVQbal/
They are finding that there is cardiac problem in the the first 2 months for sure
Let me enumerate all the evidence suggesting that during the last year, more than four billion people were injected with nanoblades:
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I hope I didn’t forget anything.
Oh, and if someone believes the video of his ‘wife’ is not staged then I have a sieve full of graphene nanoblades to sell them.
nanoblades is a new word
can we have pictures please
and what exactly is the purpose of a nanoblade?
Norman yesterday mentioned the 1918 flue epidemic.
Here is an article that attempts to debunk the idea that it was flu; instead suggesting that it was a bacterial meningitis pandemic that was created by means of a vaccination campaign that started at the US Army base of Fort Riley in Kansas. Whether this is the truth or not I have no idea. Whether this peels a few layers of the onion or adds a few layers to the coverup of what actually happened, again, I have no idea. but it7s a challenge to the “official” history, and that’s always welcome.
The vaccine used was made in the laboratory of The Rockefeller Institute. Between Jan. 21 and June 4 of 1918, Dr. Frederick L. Gates reported an experiment in which soldiers were given three doses of a bacterial meningitis vaccine. The vaccines were spitball dosages of a vaccine serum derived from horses.
At least Fred Gates was a real doctor! Unlike Bill.
According to Gates, they injected random dosages of an experimental bacterial meningitis vaccine into soldiers. Afterward, some of the soldiers had symptoms that were characterized as “simulated” meningitis, but Dr. Gates advances the fantastical claim that it wasn’t actual meningitis.
In 1918, “influenza” or flu was a catchall term for a disease of unknown origin. The misdirection term “Spanish Flu” has never been corrected. Whodathunk? It helped disguise the origin of the pandemic. If there were any real justice in this world, it would be called the “Rockefeller pandemic.”
By some strange coinkydink, even modern technology has not been able to pinpoint the killer influenza strain from this pandemic. The “Spanish flu” attacked healthy people in their prime. Bacterial pneumonia attacks people in their prime. Flu attacks the young, old and immuno-compromised.
In actuality bacterial pneumonia was the real killer — and thousands of autopsies confirm this fact.
Researchers looked at more than 9,000 autopsies, and “there were no negative (bacterial) lung culture results.”
According to a 2008 National Institute of Health paper, bacterial pneumonia was the killer in a minimum of 92.7% of the autopsies of those who died of so-called “Spanish flu” between 1918 and 1919.
So an experimental anti-meningoccic serum that was derived from horses was injected into soldiers who would be entering the cramped and unsanitary living conditions of war. What could possibly go wrong?
The Institute said it distributed the bacterial serum to England, France, Belgium, Italy and other countries during WWI. Ultimately, these Rockefeller Institute quacks killed 50 to 100 million people via bacterial lung infections from 1918 to 1919.
https://www.winterwatch.net/2021/06/the-truth-revealed-about-the-deadly-1918-spanish-flu-it-was-actually-bacterial-pneumonia/
Perhaps. We probably will never know for certain.
Let’s all listen to Dunce, he knows the truth.
hint: if the vaccines work, why are covid deaths higher in 2021 than in 2020?
LOL!!
friends who are “scientists” and in medical professions CANNOT be bought and paid for, because I know them and they would NEVER do that!
no human being would behave corruptly just for MONEY!
no one!
Dang.. .David in a million years….
‘But there is no harm in getting vaccinated in order to fit in with the governmental views and be able to get around more easily than the unvaccinated’
Dang 😉
mike gets around… across the town… he gets around.. to the donut shop … he loves the donut shop….
But for every donut there’s a price to pay: a vaxx………
That should be the musak for vaxx centres, get people in the mood for their new ‘freedoms’.
And wise mike… because he’s wise!!! and he’s mike
Antonio Turiel has recently written another interesting article about ‘diesel peak’.
I think that probably everyone in this blog knows the importance of diesel for the world economy.
Many fundamental things of our civilization run around diesel: goods transportation (ships and trucks), agriculture, mineral extraction, civil or industrial or military construction etc.
Among the lines of the article it is easy to understand how a pandemic helped to cover the real problems of the world.
I found this article very interesting.
https://crashoil.blogspot.com/2021/11/el-pico-del-diesel-edicion-de-2021.html
Great article, thanks!
Diesel Fuel Shortage Forces Some Truck Stops to Ration Fill Ups
https://tfltruck.com/2021/11/report-diesel-fuel-shortage-forces-some-truck-stops-to-ration-fill-ups/
City of Cincinnati rationing diesel across all departments, including essential services
https://www.fox19.com/2021/11/19/city-cincinnati-rationing-diesel-across-all-departments-including-essential-services/
Diesel Shortage Amid Soaring Prices: Truck Stops Resort To Rationing
https://www.ibtimes.com/diesel-shortage-amid-soaring-prices-truck-stops-resort-rationing-3334927
Yes, diesel is where the crunch is. I note the vast expansion of oilseed cultivation in Pianura Padana (itself something that creates problems, as farmland is used to produce non-food products), and conclude that it is being done because kerosene not used by the airline industry is re-labeled as diesel. They are not the same thing of course, since IIRC kerosene has an average carbon length of about 10 and diesel about 12 (IIRC). But sunflower or canola produce oil that is mostly 16 carbon atoms long.
I am guessing that the mixture of the two, perhaps with the addition of a small amount of heating oil, behaves as regular diesel (specifically not exploding prematurely at the high compression in diesel machines).
Antonio Turiel’s article is really one written by Rafael Fernández Díez, based on data of JODI (Joint Oil Data Initiative). I don’t like JODI data because I don’t have any balancing numbers. My guess is that the most recent data is understated. Thus, it tends to give an overstated impression of the recent drop in production.
BP data shows consumption (not production) of petroleum products through 2020, both by type of fuel and by part of the world. It looks to me as if the world version of BP’s numbers are fairly different from the sum of the JODI numbers. BP shows world diesel/gasoil consumption to be slowly rising through 2019, and then dropping by -7.3% in 2020. This is a link to the chart based on JODI data.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-r7mMFbTHhBk/YZfwe_ApadI/AAAAAAAAJp8/3BOIrMP6rQgvpX36cNaj88Rc6Ij1mCDXQCLcBGAsYHQ/w640-h384/diesel.png
BP data doesn’t tell us about 2021. It is possible that if more jet fuel is being produced in 2021 because more planes are flying, and this is cutting into diesel/gasoil availably. (Jet fuel is also a “Middle distillate,” so more jet fuel might mean less diesel/gasoil.)
Also, Europe also has an issue of being outbid for diesel by the Middle East and China. If the world is a little short of diesel fuel, Europe will be doubly short of diesel, I would expect.
Europe is pushing hard on phasing out diesel from passenger car fleet and starts on larger app as well (some buses and short range trucks to natgas etc..) So, that’s “helping” too..
This years must have Christmas toy.
Table football: Pfizer edition 2021.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFYEx9TXIAMLaV7?format=jpg&name=medium
Forced to Get Vaccine to Remain on Lung Transplant List, 49-Year-Old Who Survived COVID Dies After Second Moderna Shot
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/bobby-amy-bolin-lung-transplant-dies-moderna-covid-vaccine/
That’ll teach him 🤣
This definitely gets filed under It Serves Him Right for being so F789ing STOOOOPID!
Thats not very nice, he was in a bad spot to begin with.
The Real Anthony Fauci:
Bill Gates, Big Pharma and the Global War on Democracy and Public Health
by Robert F Kennedy Jr
Excerpts Part I:
P25: I was astonished to realize that the pervasive web of deep financial entanglements between Pharma and the government health agencies had put regulatory capture on steroids. The CDC, for example, owns 57 vaccine patents and spends $4.9 of its $12.0 billion-dollar annual budget (as of 2019) buying and distributing vaccines. NIH owns hundreds of vaccine patents and often profits from the sale of products it supposedly regulates. High level officials, including Dr. Fauci, receive yearly emoluments of up to $150,000 in royalty payments on products that they help develop and then usher through the approval process. The FDA receives 45 percent of its budget from the pharmaceutical industry, through what are euphemistically called “user fees.” When I learned that extraordinary fact, the disastrous health of the American people was no longer a mystery;
P29: As the world watched, Tony Fauci dictated a series of policies that resulted in by far the most deaths, and one of the highest percentage COVID-19 body counts of any nation on the planet. Only relentless propaganda and wall-to-wall censorship could conceal his disastrous mismanagement during COVID-19’s first year. The US, with 4 percent of the world’s population, suffered 14.5 percent of total COVID deaths. By September 30, 2021, mortality rates in the US had climbed to 2,107/1,000,000, compared to 139/1,000,000 in Japan.
P36-37: Dr. Fauci’s catastrophic failure to achieve beneficial health outcomes during the COVID-19 crisis is consistent with the disastrous declines in public health during his half-century running NIAID.
The “J. Edgar Hoover of public health” has presided over cataclysmic declines in public health, including an exploding chronic disease epidemic that has made the “Fauci generation”—children born after his elevation to NIAID kingpin in 1984— the sickest generation in American history, and has made Americans among the least healthy citizens on the planet. His obsequious subservience to the Big Ag, Big Food, and pharmaceutical companies has left our children drowning in a toxic soup of pesticide residues, corn syrup, and processed foods, while also serving as pincushions for 69 mandated vaccine doses by age 18—none of them properly safety tested.
P41-42: All his strategies during COVID—falsifying science to bring dangerous and ineffective drugs to market, suppressing and sabotaging competitive products that have lower profit margins even if the cost is prolonging pandemics and losing thousands of lives—all of these share a common purpose: the myopic devotion to Pharma.
P51-52: Medicines were available against COVID—inexpensive, safe medicines—that would have prevented hundreds of thousands of hospitalizations and saved as many lives if only we’d used them. But Dr. Fauci and his Pharma collaborators deliberately suppressed those treatments in service to their single-minded objective—making America await salvation from their novel, multi-billion dollar vaccines.
Government COVID policies were so grotesquely ill-conceived, so unfounded in science, so tethered to financial interests, that they caused hundreds of thousands of wholly unnecessary deaths.
RFK Jr. hits the nail on the head.
Big Pharmafia is arguably the most corrupting, Machiavellian and harmful industry in human history. Billions sickened, tortured, maimed, damaged or simply killed in just over a hundred years. Not even the military industry has achieved such results.
I can never thank scamdemic enough for giving me that clue.
I am afraid Kennedy is correct on these things.
Thanks for the digest, that ~1:15 deadly ratio in favor of Japan vs US could be legit, but most of it is perhaps hidden in the very different lifestyle and diet, more coherent culture.. same likely applies for other “smart” Asians like SKorea etc..
Omicron was just in time so the FED can continue to do it’s stuff….Powell will be dovish on taper
An excuse to slow/stop the taper.
Mandate? What mandate?
Hearing from people in multiple industries that companies have basically already given up on forcing employee vaccinations. Also, an update on the Xi (I mean Omicron, silly me!) variant
https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/mandate-what-mandate
Mandates are not leading to very many new people getting a first dose of COVID vaccine.
Designated Minister of Justice, Buschmann (FDP), wants to have the parliament vote on compulsory vaccination for the population in Germany.
Yep, that will be the turning point, and after Germany everybody in their closer or more distant orbit (or in the sense overall wake created) will obey as well.. Austria / Italy / CH (already), Spain, Benelux and even part of Baltics and Scandinavia, CEE & Balkans (with the exception of Hungary maybe Poland, Serbia, not fully adhering)..
Is Israel preparing a war against Iran?
https://www.jpost.com/international/lapid-uk-fm-vow-to-work-together-to-stop-iran-from-getting-the-bomb-687299
https://www.axios.com/iran-enrich-weapons-grade-uranium-israel-f624e90a-2283-4b55-adca-d5aae1403912.html
“Defense Minister Benny Gantz said Israel must be “strong and independent to present its own solutions to defend ourselves, by ourselves, when we decide we it must be done.”
This is not official yet but some people say that “Israel has also conveyed a detailed plan of attack and demands unfailing support from its partners, while Iran warns that China will defend its interests in the region in the event of an attack. ‘escalation. There is a pre-war vibe that pervades diplomatic channels.”
Israel and Iran nuked to glass oh so sad
Ed, that will involve other countries like Taiwan. Not a big deal. But what about Ukraine? What would Russia do? We cannot estimate all the consequences if Israel strikes first. What we know si far is that there are actively seeking a diplomatic support from allies if they declare a war.
Israel and Iran have been fighting for as long as anyone can remember.
Gail, my sources says that this is different now, not like the last 20 years. Something big is coming, unless China and US decide to cool down the situation. We should be very worried.
My impression is that if things will become unsustainable this winter regarding energy and regarding pandemic, a real war between Israel and Iran and between Nato (or some part of Nato) and Russia could start.
In other words, when internal population could not be pressed any further, that wil be the point.
It’s very doubtful China will fully back the Persians, even if they had pristine untapped sea of oil and gas, which they don’t have anymore in Iran anyway.
The Chinese politburo clearly tamed some of the “volatile” actors (domestic top billionaire class eyeing global) lately, BUT, the bottom line remains, Israel is first and foremost warring culture and nation 24/365/.. and China is not. Especially in the sense of skating and ever pushing on the high risk boundaries.. That’s completely different mindset.
What horrors can they create with this?
Team builds first living robots—that can reproduce
https://wyss.harvard.edu/news/team-builds-first-living-robots-that-can-reproduce/
impossible for a robot to reproduce itself (with absolutely zero human aid)
Well for one thing Fast Eddy likes to watch, so there is that. But I am afraid that if some human bent on mischief just pulls the plug from the socket the self-reproducing machines will lose their erotic fire. Or if a tree branch falls on some power line.
stating the obvious will result in eddy putting out a contract on you
Biden regime:
How do we fix the economy – vaccine
How do we fix inflation – vaccine
How do we fix the job crisis – vaccine
How do we fix the border crisis – vaccine
How do we fix gas prices – vaccine
How do we fix empty shelves – vaccine
Let’s Go Brandon.
One solution fits everything!
The irony is that they are Trumpcines.
Biden & the Dems have certainly been in power long enuf and with sufficient cooperation from the media to be in full ownership of the “Vaccine as panacea” mantra
Trump is stained only because he failed to overcome the “Deep State’s” & media resistance to alternatives to the vaccine. It seems to me that Trump was certainly open to alternative solutions and actively trying to pursue parallel paths – he would/did work to promote/brainstorm alternative therapeutics but he was also hindered by his OCD/germaphobia – far too receptive to what any “expert” might tell him would work. He certainly wasn’t blind/braindead like Biden to possibilities beyond the Vaccine, but yes he bought into the FDA/CDC hype and paid for it dearly.
I know all the Europeans on this blog love to castigate Trump, but I dont think they get beyond their own socialistic/communistic biases (NORM) to understand what he was really about; pragmatistic taking of action within the rule of law and attempting to do what he said he promised he was going to do. Change a law and Trump was onboard – my gosh he offered to give a pathway to the Dreamers w/ greater numbers given amnesty than the Dems asked for and they still would not compromize. Find a way within the law and he would try to accomplish what he said he was gonna do Not the hypocrisy & outright lies that the Democrates/Biden tell to pacify people while they continue to do the bidding of the CCP; selling the country out for peanuts and personal gain.
you perhaps mistake pragmatism for socialism/communism. Neither of which ‘work’.
capitalsm (and I used to be a believer in capitalism) requires infinite capital, and that the laws of thermodynamics and entropy do not apply to humankind. Capital is finite, because energy availability is finite. Very simple to understand.
You make think energy/capital is somehow infinite. That is your privilege.
Trump suffered from the same problem. His 70m supporters thought so too.
Instead one should seek a fairer society, where conspicuous consumption is not confused with progress and benefit to society at large. Owning a dozen mansions a using spacerockets as toys does not.
A society where the top 0.1% own as much as the lowest 50% can be nothing but severely unstable
my pragmatism derives from my realisation that change is unlikely to happen. We make the best of what ‘is’ until change is forced upon us.
Trump’s antics were part of that change–they may well be again.
Bear in mind that you can’t vote for prosperity.
I didnt say a thing about capitalism. Insincere of you to suggest beneath a simpleton and that I believe in infinite energy/resources
I spoke of rule of law and not being a hypocrite and liar like Biden et al. If you seriously think that Biden and the Dems are going to do anything about the top 0.1% then you are naive – they are owned by Silicon Valley, Wall Street & the CCP. Trumps personal overconsumption certainly not admirable but he never tried to hide it, and he generally stood up for things that supported the lower 50% and certainly convinced a large number of african american that he was working to improve their lives by his actions rather than hollow word used by the Dems.
If I have mistaken your effusive support for Biden & the Dems as being a more correct form of leadership for the US in comparison to Trump who you love to denigrate then I apologize. But your so called “pragmatism” has seemed to result in nothing but enthusiastic endorsement of the corrupt & communistic paid-off traitors that Biden et al are and I see very little that they do that is either pragmatic or in the least bit respectful of anything other than their personal advancement to the detriment those they supposedly serve
Another spike in Ammonia prices.
Now at record levels.
Food prices are the next to follow.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFXgwPDUYAgbToI?format=jpg&name=medium
On an inflation-adjusted basis, I expect the 2008 ammonia prices were higher. But, you do make a good point. If ammonia is in short supply, food production is likely to be down.
Geert Vanden Bossche
My message to people of Austria during the rally held in Vienna in November 20, 2021
The only fight you should have, is the fight for your health
https://www.voiceforscienceandsolidarity.org/videos-and-interviews/the-only-fight-you-should-have-is-the-fight-for-your-health
Recommended book:
A Plague Upon Our House: My Fight at the Trump White House to Stop COVID from Destroying America
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/57919252-a-plague-upon-our-house?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=ftPrs5SZZ4&rank=1
Logic, common sense view and assessment of the pandemic from one of the sane scientists Scott W. Atlas from Stanford.
This book assumes POTUS is not a puppet… a figurehead… controlled by the Elders?
Chinese coal prices are down 140% from peak and are now too low at 800 yuan.
https://mobile.twitter.com/YuanTalks/status/1465160299426635785
wow, way way way down
though their math is wrong, since nothing can go down more than 100% 😉
(let’s ignore negative oil $ earlier this year)
Prices are almost certainly too low for producers, now. This is not sustainable.
It occurs to me: all that we are witnessing with the scamdemic and global economic problems could be used to argue against globalization and centralization. How could globalization and centralization not result in greater systemic vulnerability shared across a greater number of people?
COVID-19 appears and every country operates almost in lockstep. Wouldn’t it make more sense if some countries opted not to do this? It would be a strategy akin to diversifying one’s investment portfolio; not putting all their eggs in one basket. This goes for economic strategy as well as COVID-19 mitigation strategy – especially during unprecedented times where the best path forward isn’t clear.
So, for example, fine, go ahead and inject a population with Emergency Use Authorization “vaccines,” understand and explain that it is an experiment, but allow room for other populations to pursue a natural immunity route, and still other populations to pursue the use of Ivermectin and other therapy options. Wouldn’t that be a more edifying approach? After all, this being a brand new virus in the world, it would be presumptuous to argue that you know exactly how the pandemic is going to play out, how virulent the virus will become, how mutation will proceed, etc. A one-size-fits all approach is simply bad science, especially when no one knows what’s going to happen next and whether the single approach is actually the wrong choice in hindsight.
Yes spot on.
Diversity = Reliability ==> Defined or Distributed Risk
Over-optimization= Fragility ==>Potential Catastrophic Risk
But that would require leaders that could say “I don’t know” and not made decisions backed up only by hubris and the assumed superiority of themselves and their new technologies and discounting of all other opinions/options. They are corrupt gamblers that put someone else’s money on the flashy longshot and get a kickback from the house regardless of if all is lost
I remember when Bill Gates was pulling away from Microsoft day to day responsibilities. He came out with some statement that the world needed better toilets – that obviously only 3rd tier intellects had been applying themselves to the problem but that now that he had time he was going to see that true intellect was applied to the “problem”
Having been in wastewater engineering research and taught 100s of students as Research Associate, worked for regional and state agencies as well as private consulting engineering firms, I would put the intellectual capacity of my co-workers and students up against Gate’s engineers any time
Needless to say I have never seen the ultra-superior Gate’s toilet being put into homes. He did sponsor some research that produced a room size contraption that would “totally recycle” waste but it was obviously an uneconomic unnecessary overapplication of technology at the incorrect scale.
This pandemic really seems to have served many purposes:
Choke down on fossil fuel use, as it becomes hard/impossible to grow supply
Gave govs/CBs an excuse to crank up debt spending/QE/asset purchase, to keep bubbles growing
Covid used as a big club to realign different national govs policies
As always there are some groups that seem set up to make big bucks
I think someone already said that if the pandemic hadn’t happened they would have had to create something like it.
I’m afraid the imbalance in power, the fear mongering, the mass ignorance and entrancement would make such sensible notions impossible to enact.
“Wouldn’t it make more sense if some countries opted not to do this?”
Only governments with balls can possibly opt out. From the perspective of the rest, the best strategy is copycatting. It does not require any creativity. If the result is good, they look good too. If the result is bad, the can say others did the same.
NEW STRAIN! OMICRON!
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=972146790004641&aggr_v_ids%5B0%5D=972146790004641¬if_id=1638183258970655¬if_t=watch_follower_video&ref=notif
Welcome to New Normal Germany, where goon squads make the rounds of barber shops, “checking papers” to make sure that “the Unvaccinated” are not attempting to get their hair cut alongside regular “Good Germans.”
https://twitter.com/Kees71234/status/1465078438012895235
The fourth wave, the Omicron wave, will be a tsunami. The virus binds harder to the ACE2, has a higher viral load and is an immune escape variant. The Omicron is already being detected everywhere in Europe.
Mr. Pool is enjoying the show: The pandemic, lockdowns, dictatorships, vaccines, passports, economic ruin and the protest.
The Japan, Fukushima tsunami:
https://mobile.twitter.com/IooP_rM311_7211/status/1465116547865669635
No you are wrong.
How long can more debt really be a (temporary) solution?
There is no evidence that Moronic is any more virulent, more transmissible, more deadly, or generally nastier than any of the previous Greek letters.The people who discovered it have called it “a storm in a teacup” and basically it really doesn’t matter and nobody else cares about it.
This video may be worth viewing just to see The Dancing Troll.
Groovvvvy!! lol 🙂
Only 11 at the time so no contemporary proper appreciation for the micro-mini – who says history can’t be fun
It even thanked us for watching!
No… Thank you for posting
I’m glad you liked that. 🙂
That song was written by Lynsey De Paul. And I prefer the way she sings it. It’s hard for young people to appreciate the fact, back in the seventies, this sort of thing passed for entertainment in the UK, as Norman can attest.
🙂
Prof Spector in London, the one with the genetic database of twins (hello DR Mengele!) said early this year:
‘Don’t worry about variants. I don’t know anyone in the field who is worried about variants. Eat and sleep well, exercise, take vitamins’.
So, then he was aligned with sensible Mike Yeadon.
Shortly after, though, he became a full-on jabber, clearly under orders.
He’s gone rather dead in he eyes, and is clearly embarrassed by the unscientific lines he has to deliver sometimes in his video updates. Viewers have noticed, too.
Showing your age Tim. Thought I recognised the video. It’s the same video as is set to all songs on that channel.
If you want some real eye candy and more contemporary music, check this out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRSq95NTPcE
If anyone can tell me what drug she’s on, let me know. I’d like to get me some.
That was really good, Yorchichan. Yhank you! Klangkarussell have gained a new fan.
Norman should appreciate the dancer. She looks a bit like a young Jen Psaki.
JABS ARMY NEEDS YULE We need 25,000 Jabs Army volunteers to help give booster jabs and fight Omicron strain
THE Sun today issues a fresh call for Jabs Army volunteers — with all over 18s set to be offered a Covid booster sooner to fight the Omicron strain.
With a third UK case discovered yesterday, we need 25,000 volunteers to help give booster jabs.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/health/16878573/jabs-army-volunteers-booster-omicron/
Let me get this right… you get to volunteer to inject CovIDIOTS with an extra dose of poison….
I’m IN!!!!!
Sajid Jabbed said “15 million people have had their booster, and because of that success (What success?) we will now have boosters every 3 months”! Do the maths, 60 million people every three months?
Tony Fauci and Bill Gates loves those numbers. Their bank accounts are spilling over.
Ignore the experts and listen to quacks and con artists instead?
Duncan,
And you can tell everyone, that this is your song….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASHO3gOSnaM
Own private Idaho: This is a phrase taken directly from the 1980 dance pop song, “Your Own Private Idaho” by the outrageous party band, the B-52’s.
It means “living inside an Idaho potato”, or a very small space. Metaphorically, it refers to someone who is not paying attention because he is daydreaming, or under the influence, or otherwise wrapped up within his own very narrow sphere of interest or frame of reference.
So Savage Jabba is supposed to be an expert now? I thought he was just another politician who is trying to practice medicine without a license.
Hang on a minute, he is vaguely familiar.
He bears a strong resemblance to someone who had a plan to cause global chaos…….
It couldn’t be, could it?
Or you can listen to liars hahahahaahahahahahahahahahaha
https://twitter.com/Lukewearechange/status/1463932846570192901
Success is in terms of money made from vaccinations. Also, division within the economy over the ridiculous nature of the vaccinations.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/breaking-uk-adults-offered-covid-25572885.amp
3 months – excellent! Soon it will be a monthly thing.. and the CovIDIOTS will say – it’s like the flu shot only every month. Id IOTS
Fauci in 2009 (49 sec.)
Wants everyone to get a “universal” vaccine every year “and that’ll be good for the companies, too!”
https://gab.com/Muddled/posts/107361928168984605
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/11757/production/_111411517_fauci2.jpg
Got to save X-Mas
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFUIbM9WQAE6pWY?format=jpg&name=large
According to rumors in Austrian media, the mandatory vaccination starting in February of the Austrians could reach down to 14-year-olds. With threat of imprisonment of those who resist…
https://kurier.at/politik/inland/impfpflicht-koennte-ab-14-jahren-gelten-notfalls-ersatzfreiheitsstrafe/401823118
As anger and protests are on the rise around the world surrounding the authoritarian vaccine mandates, the governments may find this will backfire on them. Someone may have posted a link to a story here that two teenagers in Australia posted death threats to the Prime Minister.
As explained previously this is highly unlikely.
You need a threshold number, and ~15-25% refusniks only (around IC) from ordinary public is clearly pathetic score, also given the clever fact where police and army went first and are at ~95%.. i.e. sooner or later clubbing the “Un” mini crowds will be not only the job as usual, but also a sadistic joy..
The only counter faction possible now is in the divine / nature’s hand.
And even that would depend on favorable timing panning out or not (asap).
Oh contrare, as Gerald Celente’s many great quotes: “When people lose everything and have nothing else to lose, THEY LOSE IT”.
Things are going in the direction I told Fast Eddy. The kettle is beginning to boil. What till a match lights the wick. The Arab Spring began a slow boil until a match lit the wick and the the Government was toppled.
Things are just starting to get serious. All you need is for one group in one country to get the ball rolling and then you’ll see copycats follow. Right now the Police are just showing and intimidating with a show of force. It’s another for the Police or Military to turn against and fire on their own people. When that happens all bets are off. People will only take so much until they feel like a cornered animal. That’s when they are the most dangerous because they become unpredictable.
Governments tend to collapse when they go this route.
Sorry, Celente is just a “serial worrier / fear m.” lecture circuit clown.. with zero actionable prediction abilities.
Did he advise you to load up on natgas before it jumped 10x or ~30x in derivatives? Nope.. the same for tech stocks etc..
The CEP would collapse if mass riots roiled the world. That would result in Face Ripping
However it’s easy to calm the waters by PRing a new variant and scaring the hell out of everyone – again.
A few photos of dead bodies on the streets and they’ll be self locking and cowering in fear.
MOREONS are easily controlled.
People in shops yesterday were saying it was already much quieter than usual, I think mostly the elderly cowering in fear – only a few days into the Omicron Con!
Poor old sods, listening to the BBC and believing it all, making their last few months or years utterly miserable.
It was here, it premier not PM : https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/the-narratives-fail/
“Down in Australia two frisky teens called in a threat to behead the premier (i.e., governor) of West Australia (capital: Perth). The world is suddenly remembering the back-story behind the old political phrase heads will roll, namely, what happens to the folks-in-charge when they piss-off enough of the people whose affairs they are responsible for running.”
Decent quality comments at Kunstler’s, several of them very good, just picking two for now..
By Socrates and TaxDonkey:
https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/the-narratives-fail/#comment-647297
https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/the-narratives-fail/#comment-647179
Socrates-Detroit November 29, 2021 at 12:23 pm #
The protocols ordinary people in general and Americans in particular will endure in the name of climate change will be as intrusive and oppressive as the COVID protocols, if not more so.
The mRNA gene therapy is the necessary tool to ensure control of people, and hence, compliance.
COVID, “social equity” , and climate change: the unholy trinity to oppress and enslave the masses of the West by the Western Elites.
However, the Asian elites may not comply. The Chinese elite (Xi and CCP) have their own ambitions and are not going to subordinate them to Bill Gates and Davos/Reset crowd.
Even the western facing Japanese are veering away from the Western vax stupidity, as they have adopted ivermectin and common sense.
Compare that to Australia…
– – – and – – –
TaxDonkey November 29, 2021 at 10:41 am #
Allegedly, about half the population isn’t affected by the mass hypnosis. I don’t know the exact number of course, but there should be enough awake people to make a difference. One problem is we can’t seem to figure out who exactly is doing what to us. There seem to be a bunch of Bond villains stroking their cats in Davos, but the Chinese government certainly seems to have some kind of hand in this as well. The Chinese certainly have motive. Not only do they have real energy problems, but 85% of their water and land in general is completely toxic due to providing 50% of the world’s manufacturing for awhile now. Have they all made some dirty deal to share the spoils of this semi-controlled demolition of western civilization? Or maybe we’re mostly doing this to ourselves and the powers that be are scrambling for the remaining seats when the music stops.
Allegedly, about half the population isn’t affected by the mass hypnosis. I don’t know the exact number of course, but there should be enough awake people to make a difference. One problem is we can’t seem to figure out who exactly is doing what to us. There seem to be a bunch of Bond villains stroking their cats in Davos, but the Chinese government certainly seems to have some kind of hand in this as well. The Chinese certainly have motive. Not only do they have real energy problems, but 85% of their water and land in general is completely toxic due to providing 50% of the world’s manufacturing for awhile now. Have they all made some dirty deal to share the spoils of this semi-controlled demolition of western civilization? Or maybe we’re mostly doing this to ourselves and the powers that be are scrambling for the remaining seats when the music stops.
This will not add more energy or water to China…. therefore is is the CEP
This could provide decent amount of energy and clean/er water to China in per capita sense if the overall pop is lowered down..
The scenarios still at play are numerous to consider until further info-analysis available:
– forced partial / EP
– CEP
– variant of above failing in attempted goals leading to
quasi BAU temporary (decades) lower plateau
– variant of above failing in attempted goals leading to large inter-regional wars and forming insular block global structure with quasi BAU temporary lower plateau (for winners)
– variant of above failing in attempted goals leading to large regional wars and insular block global structure with unstoppable progressive full spectrum IC collapse
..
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Now the Kunstlerites are mostly off Trumpy, the comments have improved immensely.
Even the resident nut J’arek’ can be quite reasonable.
Well, the prospect of execution in the morning sharpens the wits.
They have their own Norman/Mike too, most amusing.
They are best freshly off the oven, it tends to deteriorate few hours later on the date of publishing with political innuendo and personal stuff. But you are very correct, there are only few (one-two?) major trolls remaining and virtually no T-rumpies.. left..
The countries with the highest vaccination rates also happen to be the ones with the highest Covid cases. Countries with low vaccination rates and widespread use of early treatment with common drugs have low Covid cases. Two weeks after Japan okayed the use of Ivermectin in mid-November of this year, cases fell from a big surge down to near zero. What part of that is complicated?
Most people are totally unaware of any of this … and will claim these are lies if you try to show them
Watch them now as they turn on the ones who made all that happen.
Devil Covid would pre-empt that.
How big are their prisons?
Prisons = ring leaders, mouthpieces, rebels, .. (few)
Caloric input denied = the rest (most of the “Un”) before capitulating
It’s partly a bluff, partly real threat.
They can certainly semi-starve and bankrupt people.
Prolonged malnutrition and stress will kill as sure as a bullet.
They can renovate the Nazi death camps and ship all unvaxxed to those.
Apparently this is a one strike offer… if you continue to refuse after your jail term… it’s off to the ovens with you!
At the moment the legal proposals – procedures across first adoption countries AT, IT, CH, (DE), .. are as follows:
0/ waivers for exception health condition to be heard by authorities – could be theoretically granted to few cases
1/ last warning issued if not appearing or re-scheduling for final appointment at the med facility
2/ financial penalty (~x/y, 000 level fine)
3/ jail time (few months for starters as of now)
= this will be obviously updated and made more draconian in the line of phasing in CBDCs etc..
Those of us who decline to participate must be prepared for the worst possible outcome, I’m afraid, if the police/army and courts enforce this.
Police and army have nearly always done so in the past, so….
Medical exemptions will be very rare: they will simply argue that the ‘benefits outweigh the risks.’
An exaggerated death toll from Covid, and cover up of the risks, ensures that this calculation will always go their way.
Totalitarian systems admit of no exceptions, except –
secretly – among the elite cadres.
PS Legal attempts to stop this lunacy here in the UK have failed, as the courts presume that 1/ government is acting on the best possible advice, and 2/ that the situation is a dire national emergency, and 3/ they don’t wish to challenge the legislature and thereby provoke a constitutional crisis.
So, anything goes: we can only rely on ourselves.
Oh how cool is this — put children in prison if they don’t want to inject a poisonous substance
What about babies? Do they get jailed if the parents don’t them injected – or would the parents be jailed (even if the parents are injected)
A mate here is a hotel GM and they getting read to roll the traffic light system … it is a massive and total clusterf789….
If the “Fourth Turning” plays out as anticipated by Strauss & Howe, a “grey champion”, an individual from the older generation will provide the spark to the younger generations to cast off the prevailing societal straightjacket.
The spark may be some seemingly futile act of defiance but it happens in the right place at the right time.
We’ll see….
There’s also the energy question – can this new control matrix run for any length of time while being powered by windmills?
That won’t happen … this turning will be the final turning… we have burned up all the cheap stuff
Sleepy Joe came TV to update the American people on the Virus and assure them all is being done to tackle the new variant using the latest science and technology by Dr Fauci and his team of experts.
He urged all Americans to get vaccinated and rush for their boosters while they create a new and improved version to be available free to all Americans.
The Economy is doing great with high growth and low unemployment.
What more can we want?
Wishing us all a Merry Xmas and maybe another freebie will be coming …
Another booster, most likely.
No Vax, No Food/Fuel in India – Food Withheld to Force Vaccinations
https://www.iceagefarmer.com/2021/11/29/no-vax-no-food-fuel-in-india-food-withheld-to-force-vaccinations/
Where are the spiritually awake
Here of course! With some exceptions……
TPTB are thinking – 1.4 billion people live here. Exterminate.
What I don’t understand – India is supposed to be the country where every state except one uses Iver*ectine rather than Zyklon C. Has there been a change in policy where Iv no longer acceptable?
An Indian doctor I spoke to here told me that policy India is quite chaotic and it very much depends on which state you are discussing.
He explained that in his state doctors advocated home treatment packs, with IVM, but then corrupt state politicians took Big Harmer’s cash and forced vaxxes on the people when they appeared. They also made doctors withdraw the packs.
While in other states they were withdrawn, then re-instated, and so on.
So, in a sense warring factions.
Overall, he said that Modi is going with vaxxes as a general policy. He seems to be all-in on the New Normal.
Whether doctors there can be silence or dismissed for criticising the vaxxes, I have no idea.
There is something truly horrible about people having effective treatments for a while then having them whisked away.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFU-OjBUUAc9Ced?format=jpg&name=large
“666” Revelation Chapter 13 verse 18
“And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is 666.”
We do seem to reaching the kind of world that the book of Revelation seems to be talking about.
More and more so, Gail.
The Roman Empire?
“All the rivers run into the sea; yet the sea is not full; unto the place from whence the rivers come, thither they return again.
“All things are full of labour; man cannot utter it: the eye is not satisfied with seeing, nor the ear filled with hearing.
“The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
“Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us.
“There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any remembrance of things that are to come with those that shall come after.”
Ecclesiastes 1:7-11 (KJV)
Revelations is looking familiar to us because we’ve been there before. History doesn’t repeat exactly but it appears to be cyclical, like the rivers running to the sea and then returning to the place of their origin.
Old empires rise and fall and are replaced by new empires. The cycle continues.
“…that which is done is that which shall be done…”
People are going to take the same course of action that our ancestors took in their time – this goes for the Fauci’s, Gates’, Walensky’s, et al. There may be no way for humanity to avoid a repetitive fate, unfortunately. Our “elites” are perhaps destined to follow the same path of the “elites” who came before them, much to the detriment of the “non-elite” populations of the world.
We won’t be subjected to a literal mark in our right hand or in our forehead, like the victims in Revelation, but we will likely be subjected to an iteration of that mechanism of control (e.g. Digital Identity, QR Codes, Digital Currencies, “Vaccine” passports, etc.).
“Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us.”
Personally, I think this could apply to advanced technology being present in the past. No, the people of the past didn’t exactly have iPhones, but they built complex devices like this one:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism
“There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any remembrance of things that are to come with those that shall come after.”
This is why the ancient megalithic sites and the ancient builders and their technology remain so mysterious to us and why we may never be able to escape the repetitive cycles of history. The more I live and learn the more I come to discount linear time and the Religion of Progress as illusions. Humanity flourishes and decays in cycles and always has. I suspect there were many ancient cultures who knew this and accepted it, but we moderns have become divorced from this fundamental reality. Perhaps it is due to the success of our narrative peddlers and myth makers in selling us the Religion of Progress. We believe we are “going somewhere” on a linear timeline of infinite progress.
there is one massive difference bwtween ancient times and now.
back then there was no concept of ‘finite resources.
humankind grew (or not) and the same growth rate of plant life and the species that could be supported by it.
ie–lush grassland and plentiful waters gave you herds of meat providers
you can draw lines around the earth where this was the case.
Deserts did not, polar regions did not.
The wise pronouncements of the ancients derived from their immediate enviroment. There was no concept of ‘finite resources’–whatever catastrophe occurred, it does not occur to everyone everywhere.
Though I do have a lot of respect for some individuals as ‘seers’–they have always been with us.
To misquote……’at the judgement day everyone will ‘rise up’—etc etc. (biblical scholars will correct me here)
But in a world of scattered tribes, suppose they saw a vision of ‘billions’ in the future. That could only make sense in their terms if all the dead had risen up. They could have no concept of a world population of that size.
neither could the ancients conceive of a world where those billions had consumed the enviroment on which everyone depended. It simply wouldnt have made any sense. (in their terms)
empires rise and fall–yes, but only in the sense that sufficient resources exist to support those empires.
old empires were entirely dependent of the speed of plant growth. (no food–no army–no conquest) perfectly straightforward. As one empire collapsed, another one replaced it–but only on those inflexible terms.
If you cant quite accept that—realise that the Inuit never invaded south.
Norman says:
“there is one massive difference between ancient times and now…
“…back then there was no concept of ‘finite resources’…
“The wise pronouncements of the ancients derived from their immediate environment. There was no concept of ‘finite resources’…
“…neither could the ancients conceive of a world where those billions had consumed the environment on which everyone depended. It simply wouldn’t have made any sense (in their terms).”
Ecclesiastes reads:
“The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.”
“Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us.”
Hmmm… I don’t know, Norman. It sounds as though you’re saying “it’s different this time;” that, in other words, there is something new under the sun.
In biblical terms this might make you a false prophet. 😉
i was trying to make the point–a bit clumsily maybe–that in anceint times material resources on a world scale could not be depleted, we didn’t have the power to do that
whereas now we possess the power to make the planet itself uninhabitable on a human scale.–that, in biblical terms, is certainly something ‘new under the sun,
we havent been in this predicament before.
i cant quote the bible chapter and verse looking for precise interpretations—but i see it in broad outline, making broad statements about the human condition. I don’t run my life according to the detailed pronouncements of old guys who didn’t know where the sun went at night.
back then man could overwork a region and make it desert, but he couldnt cut the flow of the Nile or the Euphrates, or take a chainsaw to the Amazon rainforest.
A false prophet is only false when he is proven wrong. On the above, I’m not wrong. It’s happening right now. So no prophesies are necessary. I think we can however prophesy the outcome of such activity with a reasonable degree of certainty.
Some of past civilizations seem to have intentionally acted in ways to kill off some of the younger generation to keep population and resources in balance. In fact, Donella Meadows talks about one of these in the video whose link was posted recently. They had more of a sense of finiteness of resources than we do.
In south america I understand that one of the reasons they sacrificed so many people was because of some sort of prophesy that if the population breached a certain limit there would another apocalypse…
oUR CURRENT SPECIES OBVIOUSLY EVOLVED FROM EARLIER FORMS. Why can’t we be evolving now?
Something that seems new now is at least the superficial grasp of the what the world contains–like languages, cultures, dimensions, volumes. We might never previously have been able to picture the whole earth from space either.
We know that technology allowed for this knowledge, so we have the choice not to discard any available technology, and we have the choice to integrate it like never before with what we call nature. That, in a vague way, could be like a digested (humanized) form of transhumanism?
So the fact that EVERYTHING is out there, that we know (some of us anyway) that resources are limited (proven by the unprecedented fustercluck we’re in now) COULD lead us to evolve a very different and new collective way of behavior.
Museum earth.
This sums up the mood …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaJ2UHiTa0o
Fast Eddy is applying for the role of back up dancer with this band… full spandex leotard.
This sums up my mood right now
Rhythmic fury. Yea. If Gengis Khan had a supporting band it would sound like this i suppose. But the lyrics are interestingly dark (not that we get what the screamer says!)
Fate is over, open your eyes
There is no hope, no second chance
All the elders saw, the fall of the sky
Pride and glory, to touch the sky we’ve burned the earth
Built our own infirmity. Chained our heart crucified our mind
I walk, in this burning desert without reason
There’s nothing left, unless their lies
Beyond the dust, of the fallen kings’ empires, buried with their lust
Useless Sacrifice
Flowing from the church the sheep are lost and run away, betrayed by their trust
Useless Sacrifice
All just Useless Sacrifice
I saw your wars, your conquests and your defeats, a civilisation, who forgot to live
I saw your child, greedy to replace you
The planet turns, but all men fall
All men fall
Until the end I will wait my turn, waiting for someone who lets it burn
All the masks fall there is no place for lies
We burn earth in useless sacrifice
Until the end I will wait my turn, waiting for someone who lets it burn
All the masks fall there is no place for lies
We burn earth in useless sacrifice
Until the end I will wait my turn, waiting for someone who lets it burn
All the masks fall there is no place for lies
We burn earth in useless sacrifice
Son, drop your shield and watch the sky, your agony, your last goodbye
Forget your anger, watch the earth, your remains belong to the ground
If you play it backwards it says
Fast Eddy is the Messiah
The one with 1500 HP IQ
Fast Eddy is the Messiah
HE has come to save you
All Hail Fast Eddy
All Hail Fast Eddy
All Hail Fast Eddy
HE has come to save you
Beware of MOREONS
Trust only in Fast Eddy
Beware of MOREONS
Keep your daggers at the ready
All Hail Fast Eddy
All Hail Fast Eddy
All Hail Fast Eddy
HE has come to save you
The only good CovIDIOT
Is a dead one
Get the hack saw ready
A blast away till there are none
All Hail Fast Eddy
All Hail Fast Eddy
All Hail Fast Eddy
HE has come to save you
I think you are being silly.
eddy–we all know you were defrocked years ago
barstools don’t make good pulpits
Well, I suppose it’s either Wagner’s ‘Downfall of the Gods’ or that band.
The chick looks hotter than most operatic sopranos.
‘It’s not all over until the slim addict nihilist sings’?
In the same district in Maharashtra, India, motorized rickshaw drivers and employees of businesses must be jabbed, under threat of business closure, impoundment (of rickshaws), and fines:
https://www.republicworld.com/india-news/city-news/maha-aurangabad-admin-orders-impounding-of-autorickshaws-if-drivers-not-received-even-single-jab.html
Petrol stations respond by restricting hours of operation to handle increased staffing to implement passports:
https://www.republicworld.com/india-news/general-news/timing-of-aurangabad-petrol-pumps-to-be-curtailed-for-rollout-of-no-vaccine-no-fuel-initiative.html
The draconian policy is spreading to other areas of the state:https://www.republicworld.com/india-news/city-news/covid-19-after-aurangabad-hingoli-adopts-no-vaccine-no-fuel-policy.html
Who said COVID has nothing to do with energy?
Well… we’ve now got a contingency plan now in place to exit NZ to a place that has too few CovIDIOTS for the government to do anything about it…. So if they try to do an Austria here … we are gonzo… and we’ll be burning a nice fat load of petrol in the process.
In the last 13 weeks alone ~107,700 seniors have died above normal rate. Despite 98.7% vaccination rate.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFSsjnmWYAY0ZFH?format=jpg&name=large
In the last 13 weeks, a lot of people in the US South have died. Blacks tend to have more co-morbidities and shorter life expectancies. I would expect that the US would be observing more of these COVID deaths. This group tends to be less vaccinated, as well.
98.7% jabbed? That’s doubtful.
Certainly not in the US South.
I have known two people close to me that were under 50 and died recently. One was 36 no none comorbidities. I also know two people that both vaccinated and got it mild cases. I had it no vaccine got pretty sick like the flu but made it… natural immunity is something that they don’t want to discuss
Biden on restricting travel from South Africa: “It gives us time, gives us time to take more actions, to move quicker to make sure people understand you have to get your vaccine, you have to get the shot, you have to get the booster.”
https://twitter.com/NewsAlternative/status/1465369107008671745
Omicron seems to be an indication that the vaxx drive is not going as well as they hoped, and that boosters are faltering.
Yup, getting pretty desperate
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFRkV_gX0AESwi7?format=jpg&name=large
Germany – the jabbed and unjabbed are separated with a fence in a supermarket
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFSjTAQXoAkAKOZ?format=jpg&name=medium
Do the unclean need to wear a star sewn on to their jackets?
Surely they all wear a badge saying: ‘I got mine!’ ?
Exciting news from New Zealand, where PM Jacinda Ardern has given her people permission to use the bathroom inside their friends’ homes.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-delta-prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-reveals-nz-moves-to-new-traffic-light-settings-on-friday/4STXOQZLDYVE52V5GFMPSI6B4I/
Is she insane? She’s risking everyone’s lives with a cavalier offer like that!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFU-OjBUUAc9Ced?format=jpg&name=large